Couch Potatoes Deserve Love Too: Thursday, October 16th, 2025

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Happy Thursday.

Hey, Jacqueline, how are you?

I am good.

Happy Thursday.

Latter half.

Weird week.

Gang, gang, latter half.

Weird week energy.

WWE.

Agreed, 100%.

Summer slam.

WWE.

And speaking of, that reminds me, I really have not seen enough celebrities during my time in L.A.

like.

Have you been going to their...

Well, you saw one yesterday.

Who?

Shane Dawson.

Oh, my God, you guys.

Wait, yes.

Wow, I had the longest day yesterday.

Okay, I saw Shane Dawson.

So there's your celeb spotting for the day.

Great.

We were at the Beverly Hills Hotel having lunch and this enormous cyber truck pulled up and I was like, oh, I wonder what like tech douche lord it's gonna be.

Shane Dawson comes out.

And let me tell you, it looks exactly the same as he did when we like were all watching his docuseries, like the tight black jeans, the combat boots, like same look and everything.

As much as I'm not a fan of Shane Dawson, like I do miss that time.

I miss who I was.

Like, I miss every the energy around it, the Shane Dawson Jeffree Star Collab.

What was it called?

Conspiracy?

Yes.

The conspiracy theory palette or something.

That was the conspiracy palette.

Like that they had us buying those eyeshadows from like inspired by Shane Dawson selling makeup.

It just goes to show the power of marketing.

It's so true because like

why would I be the fuck does Shane Dawson know about makeup?

Why would I be inspired to buy makeup from Shane Dawson?

Like I don't know, but I did it.

And the whole point of the docuseries was like trying to turn Shane Dawson into some sort of makeup guru when he doesn't wear makeup.

Like I...

That's also the power of Jeffree Star because like Jeffree Star's stamp of approval onto Shane Dawson made it so

I was buying the palette and then what was even crazier was that like after the show aired and they had shown colors they were going to put in the palette and one color didn't make it and the fans were like oh my god but we love that color

so then they made more palettes and they just swapped out one color and like it still sold out jackie like to this day it's one of the highest grossing makeup palettes of all time like it was insane no it's a masterclass in mass psychosis

yeah

And groupthink.

You just had to be there.

So I don't.

Jackie,

the fact

that you.

Me.

Me.

I remember at the time.

Jackie, the fact that

you is what makes

most powerful marketing campaign on the planet that I

infiltrate in your mind.

Makeup from Shane Dawson.

The Communist Party of China has not even been able to get to Jackie.

Like, she's really not infiltratable.

No.

But Shane Dawson got to.

It's really Jeffree Star.

I just want to say it was really Jeffree Star, like, because I really fell in love with Jeffree Self.

And I just remember, like, watching all those episodes of the docuseries on YouTube.

Like, I remember we were flying to LA.

I'm like downloading them on YouTube so I can watch them on my flight.

I do miss that time, even though, like, I don't recognize that person.

Like, I was a part of something massive.

It was fun to be excited about something.

It really, really was.

So thank you for reminding me.

I have, yes, I've seen now two celebrities.

But

are you going to seek out more celebrities?

Well, I was pretty sure I saw Al Pacino at the Cheesecake Factory last night.

I just couldn't 100% confirm it because I don't really know what Al Pacino looks like.

Yeah, so it probably wasn't him.

I don't know.

We were in Beverly Hills.

You should go where the celebs go.

Well, Kathy Hilton goes to that Cheesecake Factory once a week.

Well, I told you you should go to Nobu Malibu.

Yeah, I know.

There's a lot of things I should do.

Sorry, I'm busy.

Yeah, but you have to eat.

So true.

You still have to have dinner and lunch and breakfast.

That's three times a day that you could see a star.

Nobu Malibu.

It's so true.

Yeah.

Today is Thursday, which means the show is so chill, right?

We're just, did you catch up on Love is Blind?

I watched the first episode that dropped.

Me too.

This is like a part of Love is Blind.

I'm not going to spoil anything.

That like, I feel like they really drag it out.

Like, there doesn't need to be four or five episodes drop batches, like two or three.

Well, I said this to Zach last night.

I feel like when Love is Blind Flurris started, the apartment living part was like longer.

The process wasn't like two to three weeks.

It felt more like four to five to six weeks.

And I felt like cameras picked up like once a week in the apartments and they would like recap us on like the fights that they had that week.

Right now, I feel like we're seeing every minute.

They're only two weeks in the apartments or less before they get married.

And I feel like we're seeing every waking minute because they're literally saying, this morning my mom came over and then the afternoon they're doing tuxes.

Like, yeah.

I feel like in the past, they've let them sort of breathe a little bit and then caught us up every few days.

Whereas now we're watching everything, like watching that.

And then also they don't know how to edit.

I guess their editor got sick because they don't know how to trim a fight to like the amount of fight that we want to see.

Cause I don't want to see all that.

Are you doing Calambria?

I'm talking about Annie and Nick's fight, her drunk.

I'm sorry.

That's I don't want to watch a drunk girl telling her boyfriend he doesn't love her enough.

Like, I don't, that's not interesting television, and I don't need it to go on forever.

Like, she's fucking awful.

She's like, I fucking hate her.

She's awful.

I, I think the temperature is that, like, Nick is the bad guy in the relationship.

We'll get to the reaction.

I think so.

But I, but even among the cast, like, they're all saying, like, Nick feels so calculated.

And, like, everything he said was always just.

I'm sorry.

Like, she's crazy.

You're not going to get me to be on her side.

So I actually really started to come around to him in the the last few episodes.

Like, this is a man who, like, has his shit together.

No, okay, you know what?

We'll say that's a good thing.

But anyways, the editor, I don't know what happened to the editor.

I hope Rafrua Shlema, you need to get back to work because these episodes are not being edited.

Yeah.

And they're like not the most interesting people on the planet.

So we'll do a TV recap and then the stories are

good.

It's like, you know, any, like, if it was a different Jax today, like, I could have even picked like five different stories, they're all sort of like interchangeable, you know, nothing like oh, heavy hitting stuff, feeling feeling very spontaneous, no, not spontaneous, just interchangeable, you know, and maybe with a dash of spontaneity.

No, I don't, I don't think that there's really a because I feel like what you just described is kind of like textbook definition of spontaneous.

No, well, then I described it wrong because they're not spontaneous, they're just sort of like interchangeable.

There's just like a lot of like mid-stories today, so maybe maybe like sporadic,

Mid, I would say.

I hope not sporadically, of course.

And then I also started another show yesterday.

Okay, she's the queen of screw TV.

Nobody wants this.

Oh my God, she's four years late.

Thank you for finally watching.

And I'm really enjoying it.

And I'm excited for season two.

Season two is coming out.

We've been reporting on it a lot.

A lot of like new familiar faces are joining the cast.

So I was like, I'm going to get in on this.

And I'm like halfway through the season.

And it's just so crazy how like the sisters on that show, like they're so Sarah and Erin Foster.

Like

that actress who's playing Sarah Foster.

Justine Loop, I think her name is.

Yeah, she's from Succession.

She deserves an Emmy.

Like if I close my eyes, it's Sarah Foster talking.

Even though the things she says, the way she says them, like greatest actress of our generation.

She was pregnant at the time of filming, like super early days, first trimester.

She was talking about that and how difficult it was.

You'd love to see it.

And I feel like that show has really influenced the way random people on the street perceive our perception.

Like when I tell people that I do a podcast with my sister, they're like, oh, like, like that show, nobody wants this.

And I'm like, oh, I guess so.

And now watching it, now I know like how to respond because it is sort of like that, but not entirely.

We're very not entirely.

They're a little crazy.

But it gives like a sense of legitimacy.

They're a little crazy.

Of course, but so are the foster sisters.

I know, but like they're crazy with their podcast.

Like they're always fighting in front of like executives.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

We We would literally never.

Yeah.

No, and I feel like their, their relationship is, like, gonna have some tension soon because like they keep like putting each other down and like yeah, and like one is evolving while the other's not and like that makes it

but like Kristen Bell's also like a bitch to

Sarah

and like didn't think she could take that meeting, but she did a great job in the meeting.

Meanwhile, Kristen Belle's in and out of the meeting with her boyfriend.

Like be professional and you think you're the better businesswoman?

Agreed.

This is the better business bureau.

Meanwhile, Sarah's there sat

Exactly.

And is something going to happen between Sarah and the brother?

Please, Lord, no.

So I feel like they were

suggesting that a lot, but then I think that was squashed.

Like, after the series got really popular, Sarah or Aaron, like, was talking about it, and they were like, no.

Okay, good.

Because, like, he's happily, unhappily married.

And the crazy thing is that, like, the actor, I don't know his name.

Like, he's Jonah.

Jonah.

Yeah.

He's Jonah from Venus.

They should have named his character Jonah Jonah just for like continuity.

Continuity.

And it's like a very Jewish name.

Because I will never be able to know him as anything other than Jonah.

Yeah, he is Jonah.

I guess in the show, he is Sasha.

But his relationship with his wife.

That doesn't feel right.

Though it's not like, you know, they're not in the honeymoon.

They're not like Rabbi and

Sarah.

They all have four names because they have their cast names.

They have who they're based on.

And then they also have their real name in real life.

Seth Cohen.

So we have Kristen, Sarah

Kristen Erin and what Joanne

yeah

um well thank welcome we're so glad to have you here we can't wait to hear

season two yeah she made it her content plate is slowly getting cleared you guys the wheels of content consumption move slowly but they grind mighty fine listen it's not about the destination it's about the journey

what else do I want to tell you?

I went to the Beverly Hills Hotel yesterday.

Didn't see any celebs.

I'd had a purge, delicious lunch.

Maybe

the celeb.

You know what?

I was thinking about that

other people had spotted.

I was thinking about that.

You were somebody Shane Dawson.

That's beautiful.

Was that nice?

That's true, actually.

I did run into a couple of toasters.

Yeah.

And just like something I wanted to remark on because they've been really negative about LA, I had like an amazing experience where I ordered a Diet Coke.

Me and Ben both did, and I guess the waiter could tell we were like chugging them, you know, we weren't gonna be polite.

And he just like sort of to make his life easier, brought us a big carafe

of DC, and he kept just like refilling the carafe, and like we were free to refill our own drinks.

It was really

special.

It was, and I feel like, bring the pitcher back, you know, whatever happened to the pitcher.

Yeah,

yeah, I'm team pitcher, carafe, whatever you want to call it.

This one was a cariff, you know, like it was very, um,

very hotel.

But now when I get a soda, when I go out, like, it's my one soda, you know, okay, but not everyone's pregnant.

Now we know too much about soda.

So I'm not like, I don't want bottomless soda.

I want like my treat of soda, but I'm not going to be drinking it like water.

Okay, but I am.

Unfortunately.

So I think the pitcher should be an option.

Okay.

Pitcher.

Pitcher.

What else do I want to tell you?

I haven't even talked to you like all day.

No, I literally spoke to you like three times yesterday.

Oh, yeah.

I went to the park and had a big chat with you.

I forgot about that.

We're so caught up.

Yeah, I went to the park.

Yeah, she's a park goer.

She loves nice.

They do nice parks.

I do love them.

I don't realize that about turdy.

Give me a flat walk.

Oh, I'm so fucking in.

Give me something with incline.

I'm not as in, but I'll do it begrudgingly, but it'll be cut short.

I went to a really nice park yesterday, and yeah, they got nice parks here.

They do.

Parks and rec.

Yeah.

That's good.

They should be.

There's lots of them.

Yeah, there's that's all there is here land land nature to high taxes to sustain correct facilities although i did like notice something at the park and now it's just like something i'm noticing like people here are obsessed with their dogs like it's very like a dog friendly town but more so than that people are obsessed with having their dogs off leash i literally like was in the hallway of this office building today there was a woman with her dog off leash like it's very rare in the city that you see a dog off leash and when you do everybody in the sidewalk is like whose dog is that like is he lost like it's so it's crazy yeah people here like i have seen more dogs off leash than i have on leash and when i was at the park yesterday just chit-chatting gabbing away with my girly on the phone this dog came up to me i thought it was a coyote it was like a it was black it was the scariest looking dog ever and you know they do have coyotes here and he like came up to my leg

twice she thought it was a coyote she's evaluating it she's like how do i know but i was like taking pictures and chat gpt she was like oh you know he's wearing a collar then i saw he was wearing a collar so i figured figured, but the owner was nowhere in sight.

Like, I looked around.

I thought somebody would make eye contact with me and be like, yeah, hi, like, that's my dog.

No, nothing.

People are obsessed with not having their dogs on leashes here.

I guess it's like a flex that you like spent a lot of money on training and like your dogs well behave.

Who gives a fuck?

And like, is it not even that inconvenient?

Like, I understand, like, yeah, sometimes, you know, I'm not going to put my seatbelt on.

You know, like, it's like, whatever.

Putting your dog on a leash is like not hard.

And I'm the laziest person ever.

Yeah, I guess.

I don't have a strong opinion about it.

Just don't bite me.

And if your dog does bite me, I'm going to sue the fuck out of you.

Just know.

Well, then I feel like we're always hearing like about like celebrities or reality stars who go on their Instagrams and tell like a story about something that happened to them at the dog park.

And it's always about some bitch-ass dog that was off-leash.

But at a dog park, dogs should be able to be off-leash at a dog park.

At a dog park.

I was at a park.

And the park was not enclosed.

There was kids everywhere and it wasn't like fenced in.

So it was just on the street.

It is crazy.

You must be really confident.

I would let Stry, like, I'm confident in Stry Guy enough to know that he wouldn't like go and bite someone, but he would go steal someone's food out of their purse um and for that steal someone's lunch money yeah he really would so like i couldn't have him off leash for that romeo would never come back

devastating bye-bye romeo you know i can never put romeo off leash that's insane yeah i don't i don't understand the urge is what i'll say correct I don't have that.

I don't have those sorts of urges.

That's good.

That you can control your urges.

I don't even have them.

So for urges to control.

I don't have urges of taking my dog off leash.

And for those of you who do, like,

why?

And when you hear a dog leash, what do you think?

Okay, we don't have the exact same brain, it turns out.

Like, what?

Miss Dog Leash?

What's that?

From the Downtown Abbey movie.

She's the American actress who comes and stays at the house.

Oh.

And then when they turn into a talking movie, she like can't talk.

So Mary subs in for her.

Right, right, right.

No, not even.

Ms.

Dougleash.

Not even.

Not even.

The new Downtown Avenue movie is available on demand, by the way.

I saw it on pay-per-view in my TV.

I'm going to have to treat myself a little popcorn, but I'll have to watch it at four o'clock for my acid reflux because I can't have popcorn that late, but I'm not watching the movie without popcorn.

Yeah, but watching the movie during the day doesn't hit.

Yeah, well, I blackout shades.

Oh, okay, okay.

I'll just like that counts.

I'll put myself on the shop.

I'll be on LA time.

I'll put myself on daylight savings.

Like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Which is coming up, by the way.

Oh, is it?

Yeah, of like getting dark super early, like cherish these last few days.

This is going to be my first daylight savings with a baby.

I feel like they say it hits harder because like bedtime and stuff.

Sort of, but it's really not that disruptive.

And especially like Foo, he handles every challenge with such grace and poise and like seamlessly.

he will crush daylight savings i hit a major milestone today okay so i always see i always feed foo

like on my breastfeeding pillow like in my lap like he lays across my chest but i've seen like on tick tock and stuff that like you can like feed laying down in bed like you're on your side baby's on their side and they just like feed from your boob from your boob yeah sorry i'm exclusively talking about boob and like just the way my jugs are like i can't do that without suffocating him and this morning i was so tired I'm like, if I could just be one of those girls on Instagram who sleeps on her side while the baby feeds, like I would be okay.

And you know what?

I made it work.

I did it.

We both survived.

Once again, handling every transition seamlessly for Mr.

Foo.

Yes, exactly.

So I'm not really worried about daylight savings.

Like kind of Ruby's like living like a bi-coastal life right now.

He already has jet lag.

Like he's three hours.

Like nothing is going to get between him and his sleep schedule.

Correct.

So honestly, and also like this daylight savings, like where it gets darker earlier, it's like cozier.

Like you want to sleep more.

Yep, yep.

The body won't be like, oh, I have to go to sleep.

The body yearns.

But when it's in the summer and it's still bright and party out and the kids are like, I have to go to bed.

I don't think so.

Oh, that's sad.

I don't think so.

And then you wind up going to bed with the sun at nine o'clock.

Nine o'clock.

So anyways, they haven't changed daylight savings yet.

Because they were supposed to be able to.

Even though I know there's legislation up on the hill, about it canceled.

Usually I'm abreast

of what's going on, but it is what it is.

Let's say maybe next year.

Maybe next year, but like I think it helps the farmers and like some kids in Alaska going to school with the sun and not having to go to the bus stop in the dark.

Well, they could use a flashlight, but it's fine.

So for the Alaskans, we still know a few.

If I need to be slightly inconvenienced so some kid in Alaska can make it to school on time, like, you know what?

And doesn't have to like go to the bus in the dark.

Stop, I'm going to cry.

Not the the bus there's something about i don't know if this is maybe like an empath or just like being extremely postpartum like something about like a kid on a bus like makes me cry do you know what i mean

yeah like it's so precious like your yellow school bus like i'm gonna i'm seriously gonna cry i know

the short one no stop i need to like move to the suburbs just so i can like get my kids on a bus

so you can cry

literally

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So last night was the Victoria's Secret fashion show.

Victoria's Secret is back again for a while.

They're misappropriating funds because it seems like they spent all their money on paying every model on earth to attend and none on promotion because I, along with millions of Americans, had no idea that this event was taking place last night.

Not a commercial, not a TikTok ad, nothing.

Yeah, I don't even know where it's streamed.

I, of course, did did not watch it even once i knew that it was happening however there were some highlights and let's just talk about like the overall vibes first like the highlight for me was that um jasmine tokes opened up the show nine months pregnant like looking party which is all i'd like really wanted the last few years is like like put pregnant women like in positions of power put them on the cover of sports illustrated like opening the victoria's secret one way like that's so gorgeous to me I completely agree.

She's so insane looking.

She's one of my, I follow her on Instagram.

She's one of of my favorite people to follow.

She married like this very, very

wealthy like diplomat or something for like a Spanish country or something.

Like really par delicious.

So she's always attending like world affairs.

She's pregnant with her second baby.

She's a former Victoria Secret model.

She's insane looking.

Her body looked amazing.

Like seriously insane.

Loved.

That is probably the only positive thing I have to say about this.

Yeah, obsessed.

Me too.

And especially like for a brand that's meant to like celebrate women, like other brands do too.

Like I think being pregnant having babies is like the most impressive thing that a woman does with her body so celebrating it is just like really beautiful and agreed i i felt seen of course of course no i loved it other than that like i was unimpressed and i have such a hot take and i don't know if the world is ready to hear it okay so the models included like a lot of the former bombshells like adriana lee which is fun candice swan pole honestly most of them were like the former victoria girls there were a couple of new peeps like angel reese uh walked But so you're like they were people who aren't traditionally models.

Like Madison Beer walked.

Yeah.

Influencers walked.

Angel Reese, who's an athlete, which is fun to like throw people in from different.

I'm not partial to only models.

Yeah, I wasn't mad about that.

Like Amelia Gray walked for the first time.

She's a model.

So like she's a new model angel.

She's like next gen.

Irina Shake walked.

The classics Bahadi Prince Lou.

So we had a bunch of people.

So it seems like they checked a lot of boxes.

Yeah, some new people.

Yes, they did athletes.

They did influencers.

They did singers.

Carol G walked and performed.

They had their OG models.

They had the new generation of models.

And I just have something to say.

And I feel like it goes against like this new world where it's like everyone's invited to everything and it's like inclusion.

And I'm a big fan.

Like I like to see, obviously, I've like seen, I've been different bodies my whole life.

I love to see different bodies.

But it is fun when something feels like a little bit exclusive, you know, like kind of it used to be, it used to be too exclusive, right?

And like nobody could even get booked and it was the same like 12 girls every year.

And every time there was someone new, it was like, great, but she looks like everybody else.

Like I understand why it wasn't perfect.

But now it's like, well, why don't I just walk?

Like everyone's there.

It's just like not, I don't know, like exclusive at all.

Interesting, but it's like when it was those 12 girls who all looked the same, like that was when it was great.

So it's weird.

You loved it.

Yeah.

It's weird.

And I actually like, I have no advice to give Victoria Seeger because I actually feel like this year they kind of went back to the classics.

They picked all the old supermodels.

They got the new models.

Like they got all the big names.

And like still, it just kind of feels old and tired.

And, but I feel like in the last few years, they tried to do, you know, swing the pendulum the other way and did like, it was even more inclusive.

And like, and that was also a mess.

I genuinely don't know how to advise them to like get me to feel something about this show ever again.

They're unadvisable.

And you know what it is?

It just feels so forced.

I just know that everybody's there because they were paid a lot to be there.

Whereas I feel like, you know, Sports Illustrated and Miami Swim Week have really put Victoria's Secret on the balls of its ass, specifically like their annual event where they have all the models come

to the bathing suit

show.

Yeah.

And like they had Stasi and I thought that was like great.

And they tap influencers.

They tap people from different areas.

And it feels like those people are so excited and they're, I don't know this to be a fact.

It feels like they're doing it for free.

Like, cause it's just like an honor to be there.

Not, I just feel like everybody was paid to be there last night.

Yeah, I, I, I really don't know what to tell them.

I feel like they, and the thing is, even when they stop doing the show, I'm like, bring back the show.

Don't give in.

Now the show's back.

I'm like, maybe stop doing the show.

Now the show has all the OG bombshells.

And I'm like, maybe don't have them.

And then when they don't have them, I'm like,

I'm like, bring back the bombshells.

I think it was.

So yeah, like nothing that they do is going to move me.

And

it didn't.

Because even though this should be like on a report card, like A plus, you got the big names, you got the new names, you got a little bit of a nice performance.

You had fun.

Yeah.

No.

It's not moving me because I've moved on.

And I think a lot of people have.

And it's just like the harder they try, like the sadder it is.

Yeah.

I don't know how you turn it around.

I don't know either.

I feel like we have this conversation every year.

But every year, like I have a bit of advice to give.

Like, hey, why wouldn't you bring?

I don't know how you can get.

me to care or like feel anything or be like in spite of

this.

Like Alex Earl should have opened the show.

Well, Alex Earl should have opened the show, by the way.

Yeah, she's busy, but yeah.

She probably was offered to do it.

Yeah, her sister was in attendance.

I saw like page six posted.

She's a bunch of stars.

Yeah.

She definitely was offered.

Who were all the performers?

Carol Girls.

Actually, I don't know.

She has like that Sports Illustrated relationship.

So maybe she doesn't want to.

But a lot of these girls do.

Yeah, I guess.

Did Tate McRae perform?

Did she?

That would have been a good performance.

I heard someone walking to her song, but I don't know if it it was live.

Did Tate McRae perform?

And Carol G performed.

And I feel like there was a girl group that performed.

It's just like

they were too successful.

We're just always comparing it, right?

To like when Rihanna sang and Taylor Swift sang and Fallout Boy and like all those iconic performances that I've watched on YouTube a thousand times.

Like they're competing against themselves, therefore they will always lose.

Yeah.

So I'm sorry.

No, she did not.

She did not, but her song, Sports Car, was featured on the runway portion.

And by the way, Tate McCrae would have been a perfect choice.

Perfect.

Young.

They're using her music anyway, so it's like seamless.

She has an insane body.

And she would have been like, I think you know what to do.

Yeah.

There are actually a lot of great people who could have performed who are like the elk of Victoria Seeker Performer.

Right, like that's the best when someone's a performer and you're like, well, are they also a model?

Like when Taylor Sof was walking, she looked like every other bitch.

But that's kind of like Madison Beer.

Like she didn't sing.

Madison Beer.

No, she walked.

Right.

Why not sing?

She should have sung.

Yeah.

Why not sing?

But I'm excited for her that she walked.

It's actually a really big deal for her.

I'm here for the comeuppance of Madison Beer.

I feel like, I don't know how exactly.

I just feel like the industry has wronged her.

She was like Justin Bieber's prodigy.

She's like the prettiest girl alive with the most amazing singing voice.

There's no reason she's like not famous.

I know, but like

something happened.

Like, I don't know, something pitchy.

You think?

Sometimes people don't.

Yeah, there's like a lot of rumors about her.

Sometimes people just don't take.

Yeah, but like there are, there are things like out there about her.

Oh, okay.

And then she had like beef with her management.

She left Scooter Braun.

Like there was like, there was like drama.

Okay.

Well, I'm just like happy for her boyfriend now.

Me too.

Like that feels like a win.

Did you see Josh Allen gave an interview about his wife and said like, seriously, the most beautiful thing anybody's ever said.

I like wanted to smack Ben after I saw it I'm like you never say anything like that about me you sound like

Edmund

stop

it was bar none the sweetest most amazing thing anybody's ever said yeah

that me throwing Ben under the bus sorry that was mean like Ben says nice things about me all the time he does do you want to tell everyone what Josh Allen said I can't remember it, but I just remember being deeply moved by it.

Do you want me to find it?

Yeah, I saw it too.

They were asked, like, what's like the best thing?

What she's taught you.

And he said, like, I'm more than a football player.

Yeah, no, it it was really beautiful.

Josh Allen reveals the biggest thing he's learned from his wife, Haley Steinfeld.

Maybe that I'm more than a football player.

My whole dream as a kid was to be in this position, and I never thought of anything outside of that or beyond that.

But there's life after it as well.

Getting married, it was the coolest.

It was the most important day of my life.

And then all that other stuff is just kind of the cherry on top.

Stop.

I love him.

My wife, my wife is an unbelievable, undeniable rock star in her world, in her life, and as a person.

She's everything that I need in my life.

No, I'm sick.

I'm sick.

I love him so much.

I love them.

Honestly, I think it's time I become a Bills fan.

But I also feel like now that they're married and like settled, I'm ready for Madison and Josh.

Oh, I thought you were going to say I'm ready for her to have a baby.

And I'm like, you're so fucking toxic.

No, no, no.

I was going to say, like, I need something new and exciting.

Yeah, to get excited.

And of course, like, Taylor and Travis, we have, but like, Madison and Josh, like, really remind me of Josh.

Of a young Haley.

And yeah.

So, and she could, like, leave it all behind, especially this toxic industry that has wronged her, as you say.

And she could just like be there for her charger.

Yeah, for her charger.

Her charger's not charging on his iPad because it got used to her.

He got used to your iPad instead of mine.

Yeah, love.

So, um,

that's good.

And now, like, his girlfriend was like a Victoria Seeker model.

Like, oh, wait, and Haley Steinfeld would have been an amazing performer/slash

model.

Yeah.

If she were to have been invited, she has so many songs.

Like, so most most girls.

Most girls.

Yeah.

Like, she has so many good anthems.

Yeah.

For this type of event.

Honestly, put us in charge.

That's my advice.

I feel like every year we need to give advice.

Here is my advice.

Put me in charge.

You know, that's always what we say about everything.

And this is the first time I'm saying, like, I can't offer my services to you.

Like, you're beyond help.

No, I can't.

You're beyond help.

There are certain people, like, if you attach them to a project, like, it will be a success no matter what.

Now, obviously, like Sean McNamara.

Correct.

Kenny Ortega.

If they could have swindled, by the way, put Kenny Ortega at the the Victoria Secret Fashion Show.

Give those models some dancing, some choreography.

Also,

yeah, like, you know, I'm not going to, I'm not going to critique the models because I'm not one, but like, yeah.

Because they're just doing their job.

Just like, get in there.

Give me a little something.

Pop and lock.

Yeah.

Oh, shout out Barbara Palvin.

She's just my favorite.

I feel like the Victoria Secret Fashion Show is the only opportunity I get to talk about her.

And that one time she was like a size six, maybe she gained like five pounds.

And they considered her a plus-size model.

And they were like, look at us, we're inclusive.

And she had like the most normal, amazing body on the planet.

You always say that, but then someone said like that she wasn't, like she wasn't.

She was.

She was considered like mid-size.

Okay.

When she was just normal.

And her husband, Dylan Sprouse, was there all night passing out little pins for endometriosis.

Awareness.

Awareness.

He brought, he would like when he was getting interviewed and anybody asked him, he had extra pins in his pocket and was giving them out because he said, Barbara just had her endosurgery.

Like, stop.

I love them.

That's really sweet.

They did look like hostage pins, which was also like a bunch of things.

I know, which I was excited about.

Nice nod to the hostages.

It is, but the good news is that there are no hostages right now alive

right so that is good news so

it would have been it would have been a little late for the pin honestly um

so that's the bs fashion show like hopefully it's not doesn't come back again next year but we'll keep you posted

yeah hopefully it doesn't come back um next story a little more fashion news sophia richie grange's new brand launched today so

srg atelier is a controller i have a question am I just like out of the loop?

Cause I'm in LA and like I go to bed like at a time where everybody else is asleep and I wake up and it's like late.

Or was the Victoria Secret Fashion Show not marketed well and neither was this launch because I didn't hear about either of these things.

Victoria's Secret Fashion Show was not marketed well.

I think I mostly learned about it from Madison LaCroix because she was going and getting ready all day.

And

from Zandra also, who was going and getting ready all day.

That's how I learned about it.

I learned about it from Zandra as well.

So you're not wrong for that.

SRG Atelier, I mean, it's the launch of a fashion brand.

It's like a collab with Revolve.

It's not going to be like...

Oh, it is?

It is, but it's meant to be a standalone brand.

They're comparing it to like Helsa by Elsa Haask, which I think is a really good comparison because like she's the face of the brand, but now the brand has legs like outside of Elsa.

Yeah, but it's like, is

Elsa's backed by Revolve too?

Yeah, I think it started as that.

Got it.

And right now, like SRG Atelier has their own website, but it's like powered by Revolve.

That's actually smart.

I like that business-wise.

And I think also they are comparing it to like Nicole Ritchie's Ritchie's House of Harlow, which is also like powered by Revolve, Forward, et cetera, and exists outside of Nicole now.

But it didn't start as a revolve.

It started as like a self-funded brand by Nicole.

And then she, I think, partnered with Revolve to like, you know, they have all the infrastructure.

They make clothes.

Like, it's actually a really smart business move for Revolve.

Yeah, exactly.

So SRG Atelier launched today.

It will be

on Revolve and Forward, as well as on the DTC site for SRG, which is also operated on the back end by Revolve.

So So it's all the same, but she gets to like have her own site.

It's a 56-piece collection.

Oh, wow.

Reminiscent of Sophia's personal styles, neutrals mixed with pops of color, linens, beige coats.

The prices range from about $250 on the lowest end to almost $2,000 for a coat.

So they're...

Oh, it's expensive.

Yeah, but they like they're really emphasizing the quality.

They're saying for the quality of these pieces, the prices are as low as they could possibly be.

Okay, I just want to say, I have been tough on it because I really don't like the name,

but it's really pretty stuff.

I think it makes sense for her that it would be like a little bit more high-end because this is like kind of like the Arielle Charnis effect where it's like,

you're selling a $40 sweater.

You wear $4,000 sweaters.

Like, why would we believe you?

And I think that's where she really struggled to like wear her own clothes.

And everything Sophia Gritchie Grange wears is a million dollars.

So if she had done like a, an Amazon line

line for kids.

I loved it.

For kids, that's different.

That's different.

So, I kind of obviously, like, I don't like that the prices are more expensive, but for her, like, it does make a lot more sense.

It makes her look like a little bit

more authentic.

Yeah.

And I'm looking at the pieces.

Oh, this coat is really nice.

Oh, it's really.

It's so.

I gotta get back to New York.

I gotta get out of here.

I gotta get out of here.

I want to get on the jackets are sick, honestly.

Go to the link in bio for I am on the revolve like brand side.

Wait, this is weird.

I'm on forward.com.

Okay.

And you know, when like there's an item and it says new or like selling fast,

some of the items, it says it's in demand, 10 sold in five days.

Oh, that's weird.

In demand,

six sold in five days.

Even here on Revolve, trending, seven sold.

That's weird.

Yeah.

By the way, I'm going to shop.

Oh, let's see.

Is it size inclusive?

Oh, oh.

I like this laurel jacket.

No, wait, it's all really pretty.

$500 hairs.

She loves an asymmetrical hemline or like an asymmetrical neckline.

Everything is either like mullet on one side or one arm.

It's really pretty stuff, you guys.

I'm shook.

I was ready to be a hater.

You know me.

Yeah, it is really nice, elegant stuff.

I'm sure the quality is really good because she will be held to a different standard if she's charging $2,000 for things.

Right.

And I think this is like a really great idea with endless potench.

I agree.

I'm very impressed.

And I think that Helsa and House of Harlow are really good comparisons for what it could be.

You know what I'm thinking?

But maybe it's just in my brain because I just watched that documentary.

Victoria Beckham.

It's giving a little bit Victoria Beckham.

Yeah, except a little bit lower end than that.

Yes, it's not.

a fashion house because it's like partnered with Revolve, but it being on forward too makes it like a little bit more, you know.

Yeah, forward.

Forward.

Sorry, I mean, for word.

For word.

So that's what Miss Richie Grange has been up to, and

I'm glad that it's here.

I'm excited.

Me too.

I'm ready for the rebrand, though.

The name is not working for me.

Product launches.

It doesn't roll off the tongue.

Product launches excite me.

Doing what you said.

You said we were going to do

what you said we were going to do excites me.

You know who else is doing this?

We didn't even talk about Gwyneth is launching like a true fashion label.

She already had like goop clothing, but this one's called,

she just posted about it.

it I forget what it's called something you know GP

Gwynneth

it's called

what is it called

it's Gwen G W Y N Gwen Gwen

um

and I love that too yeah actually our next story is about Gwyneth so if I may just I any opportunity to talk about the most amazing woman.

I just love her.

It's actually about three of our favorite people.

Kylie, Timothy, and Gwyneth.

Yes, Gwyneth Powell.

That is literally this show.

This is like, that is like this era of the show.

You know, we always get like obsessed with people, but like, we've been in this era for a while.

Yeah.

Gwyneth did not know that her co-star Timothy Chalamet's young girlfriend with two kids was Kylie Jenner.

So Gwyneth gave an interview to British Vogue and she confessed that her co-starter.

She's on the cover September edition.

Yeah, she's starring in this new Marty Supreme Pin Kong movie with Timothy.

And she said that in general, she gets made fun of for not knowing anything and one example of that is that when she was shooting this movie with Timothy she um like had no idea who his girlfriend was and she actually was praising him for being a 29 year old man who was involved with a young woman who has two kids she was like I was like not Gwyneth thinking it's like some down on her luck single mom when it's

like billionaire Kylie Jenner yeah that he just like you know embraced I mean but picked up this woman off the street is Kylie but he is with a single mother of two kids.

That's just not how you think of her because you know her of so many other things.

And like.

No, but also when you hear the phrase single mom, a billionaire doesn't come to mind.

You think of somebody who's like using, you know, one reason, one set of resources for an entire family.

Yeah.

So you think financial.

She said, I was like, that's so cool.

I really love to hear that from a young man like you.

I understand a 45-year-old who has his own kids going out with a woman with kids, but it's a cool choice for him.

I respect it.

I think it's kind of punk rock because, you know, she has two kids and when she was technically

when she met Brad Falgia, she could understand why he, with his own kids, would connect with her.

She confessed that she did not know it was Kylie Jenner, who is the young single mother girlfriend of Timothy Chalamay.

Hilarious.

Do you think that they hung out at all?

Yes.

Maybe they will, like, you know, press coming out for this movie, but do the three of them get together?

I could so see Kylie and Gwyneth actually getting along amazingly.

Gwyneth is like a girly.

I feel like, yes.

They were definitely like on set on location.

Kylie was definitely there.

And they definitely got together.

Like, this is who Kylie needs to be hanging out with.

Not Charlie XCX.

Gwyneth.

Charlie XCX.

Like, no, not the vibe, Kylie.

Yeah.

Everyone's talking about Marty Supreme, though.

I know.

I'm looking forward to seeing it because, you know, I've only seen one Timothy Chalamet movie.

Like, fun fact about me is that I've never seen any of his popular movies.

I've never seen Wonka.

I've never seen Call Me by Your Name.

I just saw that Bob Dylan one, and I'm going to say it, it was terrible.

And he was terrible.

Like, the whole thing was awful.

So, I'm coming to this tabula rasa.

I'm going to pretend like Marty Supreme is the first movie I've seen that Timothy Shalamay's in.

I've also never seen him in Little Women.

Like, I really don't think I consume his work right.

I mean, Zach watched Wonka, and I was in the background of

making a brisket, but I didn't.

We watched Ladybird together.

Oh, we did.

I don't recall him being in it.

I think he was.

Oh, I mean,

he was in it, but like, he wasn't the ladybird himself.

Tell me, do you feel this call?

Do you get Timothy Shalamay confused with Sersea Ronan?

No.

They, to me, are like in Timothy.

I don't struggle with that.

I struggle.

Oh, we watched A Rainy Day in New York.

That was a lot of Timothy.

We did.

Woody Allen, Selena Gomez.

We liked it.

We did.

We did.

It was cutesy.

It was full-on Timothy.

Selena?

Leaner.

Is that a story today?

What about her?

Her weird Instagram story last night.

What was it?

About crying.

No, she posted a phone number.

No, I didn't see this at all.

It was just like a random picture of a wall.

And she posted the phone number.

And she said, wait, let me just pull it up.

Posted the phone number.

And it's important worth noting.

I learned in the comments that the zip code, no, no, area code was South Jersey.

Okay.

Taking advantage of me and my love for that.

Sorry, let me start over.

Taking advantage of me and my love for my friends.

Enjoy that person's number.

When Jake T.

Austin is in trouble, I need to hear from him and him only.

So, for those who don't know, Jake T.

Austin played her little brother in Woods of Waverly Place.

I have no idea what this is referring to, but she blew up someone's phone number.

So, I did see, she exposed a scammer that was impersonating JT Austin after like a fraud attempt.

So, um,

that's it crazy.

Sometimes I feel like she forgets she has 400 million followers.

So the person seemingly fabricated a crisis to exploit her loyalty and her emotional connection to JT Austin.

And so she put him on blast.

Well, you know what?

I do feel like this is an important lesson that like if even Selena Gomez like a billionaire pop star can get scammed, really there's no hope for the rest of us.

Like you would think she has like things in place.

to stop her from being the victim of like a phishing scam, but yet here she is.

Here we all are.

You guys call your parents.

Make sure they're not giving anyone their credit card information on the phone.

Yeah, it's definitely a weird story.

And like the person who the phone number was linked to like has been linked to Jake T.

Was it Jen Shaw?

No, the person, I'm not going to say, like, I don't want, like, seriously, what a stupid story.

No, I know.

The person had previously, Austin, Jake T.

Austin had previously mentioned working with someone with a similar name to this person who the phone number directors to in June.

So he's like affiliated with Jake T

or a thumbs what sounds like jake t has like you know scammers in his kid why is this all our problem so true like we all are all going through our own difficulties why we would take this off getting potential spam calls like we are all just trying to not get go throughout the day with getting our identities stolen but we are all missing important calls because we're screening them because we think that they're spam calls So true.

And we are all every day being told that we're not, that we haven't paid our taxes, even though we have and the IRS doesn't call you, but you still start to question yourself when it's every single day.

I don't know who needs to hear this, but the IRS will not call you.

You will get a letter in the mail.

If anybody calls you from the IRS for like your social security number, it is a scam.

Put the phone down and walk away.

You're going to be okay.

They'll get you by mail.

Yeah.

So like we're all sort of like on our own journeys with spam.

Right.

And no one is immune.

And I can't take on like your spam issues, Selena.

Like I just can't.

No.

So that's what happened with Selena.

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It feels like less than four months of dating, but the two no longer felt a spark and realized they were better off as friends.

A source has told the son.

The spark has gone between them, but they still love each other's company and they've both been really adult about it they're remaining friendly if anyone listening to this podcast knows anna to armas personally like keep an eye on her if something i just feel like if anything happens to anna to armas like we know why i just feel like it wasn't that deep like she's not like she wasn't like in it enough for

her to feel like the full wrath or maybe like she saw how crazy this was because he wouldn't date anyone who's not in scientology or maybe like you know they say the jews are in hollywood but like it's really the scientologists and i think that maybe she thought it would revitalize kind of like a dwindling career in TV and film.

And maybe the roles weren't coming in in the way that she thought it was.

And she's like, all right, dating this old man is not worth it anymore.

I'm out.

But I just, if that's the case, she didn't give it enough time.

How long was it?

It feels like it was just, let's see, six months.

Yeah, but like even she could see like the auditions like maybe it just wasn't picking up and maybe she just had a hard time stomaching it like

they met on a set of something.

I feel like they were working together.

That's why in the beginning it was like are they dating or are they just like sharing a helicopter to set?

So, like, the movie hasn't even come out yet.

Like, if that's the case, she didn't give it enough time.

So, I don't think that's the case.

Like, I just feel like she should have

seen it through.

Maybe just the spark.

I don't know.

I just feel like if she's going to use her dating life to like elevate her career, like, she could just date like so many other people.

I mean,

she's beautiful.

Yeah, she could.

She's a hundred.

He, I know, but like, he has like a track.

Like his movies are so successful.

He like

traditional movies fan.

His relationships are always a big deal.

They never even went on a red carpet together.

They didn't even give it a fit, like the full shot is what I'm saying.

Maybe they were never dating.

I think that they were,

but like the story makes no sense to me.

Yeah, because I just feel like he doesn't do anything halfway.

Yeah, them dating makes no sense.

Them breaking out makes no sense.

Like the whole thing makes no sense.

But it's over now.

And I don't believe in love anymore.

Are you you ready for our fifth and final story?

Some really crazy allegations because Kevin Federlein has a new memoir coming out.

And he is sharing a lot of really like negative stuff about Brittany.

And she has issued a statement in response to some of the headlines coming out from excerpts from his new memoir.

The book is called You Thought You Knew.

And

there's an excerpt that was published in the New York Times where he claims that their kids woke up to Brittany watching them sleep, quote, with a knife in her hand.

In the penultimate chapter, he writes of her condition, saying the clock is ticking and we're getting close to the 11th hour.

Something bad is going to happen if things don't change.

And my biggest fear is that our sons will be left holding the pieces.

He also alleged that she did cocaine while breastfeeding their son.

So there's just like a lot of

crazy allegations in this memoir.

Yeah, and I think people automatically dismiss anything Kevin Federlein says because like he just like they the joke is that he's a couch potato who never works and just cashes Britney's checks for child support and now that both of the kids are 18 he's not getting child support anymore so he has to write a book about Britney to you know pay

for his life and while all of that may very well be true I don't think enough gets said about the fact that like you know and Britney has admitted herself like she hasn't been able to fulfill her duties as a mom and he has been there as a dad.

And I'm inclined to believe him.

I know like everybody just dismisses everything he says because he's like thirsty and poor or whatever.

But no, really, like he just, nobody takes him seriously.

But I don't know, of everyone there, he has been

there the whole time, you know?

Yeah.

And

okay, I don't think you can say stuff like this about someone.

I mean, you can't without having something to back it up because she could sue him for like

defamation and libel.

Right.

She would have to prove that that's not true.

Yeah.

So

I don't think he's writing a book and I don't think anyone's publishing a book.

That's just made up at a page.

And the New York Times.

And like major publishing houses publishing a book with South Street.

Who's publishing it?

Such claims that

could potentially be not true.

I don't think his self-published memoir would wind up in the New York Times.

New York Times.

I just want to see.

You thought you knew.

You hear.

It's crazy that he was like a backup dancer.

I just want to see who published it, like if it's legit.

Listening.

Publisher is listening.

I don't know what that is.

Let me just look it up.

Yeah, it's probably like a

imprint.

We all watch younger.

Yeah.

We know the book world.

It's

listening.

I'm not listening, punisher.

I hate these people.

Listen in publisher.

Oh, God.

Random house.

There we go.

No, are you sure they have a listening library?

Oh, like that's just a hard word to Google.

It is.

Oh, you're right.

It is a listening library.

I got because.

Wait, listen in.

Do not auto-correct.

Listen in.

You know, they're autocraced me

who

owns.

Yeah.

Who owns?

Random house.

Nope, listening library.

I said listen in.

Oh, listen in.

I have no idea.

No, this is.

By the way, this publishing house does not exist.

Oh, you think?

Mm-hmm.

Okay, that doesn't bode well, but why would the New York Times publish it then?

I don't know.

Audio first, it's an audio first publishing company.

Listening.

So it's like an audio book.

Okay, you guys, we have to dig deeper.

But, anyways, I want to share what Brittany's response has been because that's fair.

So she posted to Instagram on Wednesday saying, the constant gaslighting for my ex-husband is extremely hurtful and exhausting.

I have always pleaded and screamed to have a life with my boys.

Relationships with teenage boys is complex.

I have felt demoralized by the situation and have always asked and almost begged for them to be a part of my life.

Sadly, they've always witnessed the lack of respect shown by their own father father for me.

They need to take responsibility for themselves with one son only seeing me for 45 minutes in the past five years and the other with only four visits in the past five years.

I have pride too.

From now on, I will let them know when I am available.

Then she talks about the book.

She said, trust me, those white lies in that book, they're going straight to the bank and I am the only one who genuinely gets hurt here.

I will always love them and if you really know me, you won't pay attention to the tabloids of my mental health and drinking.

I'm actually a pretty intelligent woman who has been trying to live a sacred and private life the past five years.

I speak on this because I have had enough, and any real woman would do the same.

You know, I so

badly want to like champion and believe her.

I do.

But there's something to be said about the fact that those boys choose not to live with her and not to speak to her.

Well, they're 19 and 20, no, so it's not even about living together, but it's 45 minutes in the last five years.

No, but I'm saying that's their choice.

Even before they turned 18, they were living with him.

That was their choice.

The breastfeeding while doing cocaine is such an insane allegation.

I've obviously taken it personally since I'm breastfeeding, and I won't even take a Zempic.

I don't know.

I don't know.

It begs the question, you know.

You know what?

I don't know.

Yeah, I know.

It's like, it's really sickening.

It's sickening if it's true, and it's sickening if he made it up.

Like,

everything is.

I don't know Kevin Federline, and I'm not saying he's like the best, most amazing, honest, truthful guy.

He definitely, like, doesn't have a job, and he definitely, like, uses Britney's money at his own discretion, but he does also use it to raise, did

a dad.

As a single dad, yeah.

Maybe he wouldn't, you know, using it in the best, most perfect way.

But of all the people stealing from Britney over the last 10 years, I'm really not that mad at Kevin Federline

raising the kids.

Yeah, maybe he was using half the money on like sports betting, but the kids were getting dressed and going to school, you know?

Yeah.

So I don't know.

I'm just not one of these people who's like jumping to Britney's defense because like Kevin's a couch potato.

Well, couch potatoes deserve love too, okay?

Yeah.

And couch potatoes are good, can be good dads.

Yeah, and he's never going to beat those allegations.

Like, I've just never heard

Kevin Federline that's never really changed.

They never say like Kevin Federlein author, right?

Right.

It's always Kevin Federline crackhead.

Oh my God.

Couch potato.

Always Kevin Federlein gold digger.

Yeah.

Now.

By the way, it's not a crime.

Now he can add author to his resume.

Doing cocaine while breastfeeding, that is a crime.

Being like a,

I'm trying to think of the word.

In Yiddish, it's like

a caza.

Yeah, like being a caza, not a crime.

No.

I just never heard anything about Kevin Federlein that has like definitively changed my opinion of him in such a negative way.

Like, no, people are not perfect, of course, but like, I don't know.

I'm just not what I'm not inclined to like always defend Brittany against him.

What?

Because he's lazy?

So am i i have to say i read her book

and if there was like a time to like you know

and he didn't come off well or anything but i actually don't remember really anything that he did that was like like so awful yeah aside from like the custody stuff but

well i stand but like if someone's i mean i believe that she should not have had custody of those boys like yeah it's it's a mess It's a mess.

And it's like, it's getting worse.

And she's relatively quiet.

It's like sickening to talk about.

Let's talk about Love is Blind.

Okay.

I watched crazy Denverians.

Okay.

So many thoughts, mostly about Annie and her crazy hair.

It's like not talked about enough that she's a hairstylist.

Like, that's insane.

No.

The crazy thing is that she basically manifested this breakup into existence, right?

The whole time she was.

She spoke it into existence.

Yeah.

She's so fucking insecure.

It's like nobody wants to be around that.

And it comes out really bad when she's drunk.

Like, I feel like I like you more than you like me.

I feel like you're going to say no.

She's just so insecure.

And so, you know what?

Like, he spoke his truth because I don't know if that would have been his truth if she hadn't been such a misery.

Yeah.

And as much as I think he's going to get shit, I really do think publicly, like, people just didn't like him to begin with.

And in the pods, I didn't like him.

I didn't get him.

But then throughout like getting to know him, seeing his house, seeing his family, I'm like, oh, this is, he's like very athletic.

He's very industrious and like entrepreneurial.

He's a unique fellow.

Yeah.

Like he has his shit together and he has his life together.

And like, I think he's really serious about like wanting a wife and starting a family.

And so like, I'm like trusting his reasons for like being on the show.

Um, and I actually thought they were one of the stronger couples, but like, so did I, every time like we see them, especially I think now it has to do like more with the drinking.

She's like, You don't love me, and the wet

it's not even what she's saying, which is like one of the most annoying things a person could say, but it's also like the way that she's saying it, like the way she's like, her facials are.

I couldn't swallow her words and like eyes closed.

Like, I could not live with that for the rest of my life.

Seriously, go to sleep, yeah,

go to sleep, don't drink if that's how you're gonna be

um but i think people are gonna fault him for like ending it when he did and i think the other couple why it's nicer than making her go to the altar i think the other couples are like probably saying the same um that like you know he seemed fake whatever there are three other couples who should who should be ending it right now as well okay so can we agree that jordan and sparkle sparkle are so cute like i'm obsessed with them Yeah, they should get married.

I hope they do get married.

He's all in.

He said, like, unless like she punches my son in the face, like, I'm saying yes.

Yeah.

Um, and she and obviously for her, it's just like not who she thought she was gonna be with.

And obviously, he has a kid, so that's just like a big life change.

But I need Sparkle Megan to just like dive head in.

I love them together.

I think she's dove and head in.

I think it's a little weird for her that like she is gonna marry someone who has a kid who she's gotten the opportunity to meet once because once he's not filming, which I don't like, of course not.

That's like a really big decision.

Yeah, but at least the kid doesn't live with him full-time.

So it's not like a, or I don't think he lives with him ever.

No, but I think he, I think they have split custody because in the first episode, they said he's a single dad.

So I'm like, oh, where's him?

When I hear that, I'm like, so the mom's not in the picture.

She died, right?

But then the mom is very much in the picture.

She said, like, they talk and they're talking about him, Luca, right?

That's his name being on the show or not.

And then he said it's pretty much 50-50 custody because somebody asked him.

Yeah, but then somebody asked, I think they were out with her friends and they were like, so does he live with you?

Is he going to live with you?

No, never.

But he, but he,

but But Jordan has a bunch of people.

Maybe they meant in like in the apartment, like this bank apartment.

Yes, I think that's what they meant.

Because in Jordan's apartment where he lives, it's a one bedroom and Luca has the bedroom, which was so sweet.

Oh my God, his apartment was so cute.

I don't know if you saw that episode.

I did.

And it was like

rocket chips.

I just.

Did anybody read the book Part of Your World?

No.

It was like this cute smut book.

I talked about it on the podcast because it was like the one smut book I read where like it was like this really poor guy and this very wealthy woman and like money was like such a thing with them and it was so cringe and so awkward but like he had a big dick or whatever like i feel like that's literally sparkle megan's story right now like she can't get up with the fact that like she has more money than this man and i don't think that's how she thought her life would end up but she like loves him so much and it's kind of a fairy tale yeah no i don't think she's hung up about the money because i think she has enough money for herself and like her life the house hunting scene like they really didn't need to do that to us they didn't need a six bedroom house and like they they need half of that house like they can easily get the sort of house they want they can use all the proceeds from her LA house.

So I think like she doesn't, she's not looking for money.

Maybe she was used to it, but like she has enough and now she has love.

Like I think that she's going about the experiment in the complete right way of like,

not maybe not what I thought and not what I'd gone for in the past, but this is what's right for me.

Anyways, I agree.

They're getting married.

If they don't, like they're the only ones.

I'll be upset.

They are the only ones who have a chance of getting married.

No one else is getting married.

Let's talk about the nurse and the alcoholic.

That scene with the tequila was nuts.

That was

such a liar.

Is the tequila still in the fridge?

Oh, I don't know.

Let me check.

Like, he didn't chug the whole thing, and it's completely gone.

That was crazy.

And I,

I really, I like her a lot, but I will lose respect for her if she goes to the altar because, like, it's clearly not.

You got to call it.

Of all the people in the mix right now, they have to call it.

No, Joe and Madison.

Oh, my God.

When he was having dinner with her family and they were light years ahead of him in terms of like things they were talking about, excitement, like you you can see and feel him getting so overwhelmed.

And not that they did anything wrong, because if he were like all in, that would have been a lovely dinner.

But considering he's not, like their behavior was just like frightful for him.

Like, no, they acted like a normal way that you should act when your daughter is and like, oh my God, and we're getting married.

And, but like, it was so much like if he was overwhelmed.

She's a nice family.

She does have a nice family.

And they were acting the way that you should act when like two people are getting married.

But considering like he's not getting married, like I think it just pushed him even further and like really overwhelmed him.

And sometimes with the families, when two couples are, when a couple is like not in a good place, sometimes the families actually help bring them together.

I think that happened, that happened with Anton and Ali even meeting his mom.

It's like, oh, wow, like I could be a part of this.

I think also with Edmund's mom, like I think KB really liked her.

I like, and they always help move things along.

It's like, wait, you work with my family.

My family likes you.

Like, let's make a go of this.

That was.

When people are having doubts, it does help.

Like, most of the time.

I think they really push him away just by being like so excited about this thing that he's not excited about and he's like literally counting the minutes down until he can go home yeah and then he's having a nervous breakdown during the tux thing like being rude he won't even try on pants like they if they don't break up

today

or on the next episode that I'm about to watch, then they're both a bunch of liars.

And I feel like they don't, because I feel like I've saw footage of her like on wedding day.

Right.

So I've, there are a lot of brides.

They show us the back of their heads, but they're all clearly like different shapes, sizes, and like hair colors.

So I think there's a lot of brides at a lot of weddings when there should be, there should be one, and that's it.

Like everybody else.

But if Edmund and Clambier went like, okay, even though that fight scene was so awkward, you know what?

She's really looking for like a very toxic alpha male.

And she has found like a real like sweet little beta.

Like they are so not compatible.

No, I'm sorry.

She can't run and get the accessories from Ross.

Like

that really.

No, I know.

I know.

I know.

She has to do her hair and makeup.

Like, she needs, you know, an hour minimum to get ready.

Like, he doesn't have to do anything.

He's sitting at home.

He didn't work.

She was doing errands all day.

Like, you can't just go a mile down the road to Ross to get the Western belt and the bandanas.

I know.

But, like,

her berating him was, like, genuinely painful.

It was.

But it's school principal.

It was, but as viewers, we needed the context to know why.

Oh, of course.

And it's really, it's a universal story for women.

And it's a lot of people being a disappointment to her that then he was, and you don't say anything nice to me

in front of everyone.

No, it's like so doing a million things, and you just need him to go pick up one thing and he can't do it, or he's late.

Like, it's kind of a universal story for women.

He needed a dressing down, and that was what he got.

And it was painful to watch.

And I think they have existing issues and just like personality differences that they're not compatible.

But yes, tech, you know, plenty of women, they don't get enough.

I'm always like, I take a long time to get ready, and I'm ready before my husband.

That frustrates me.

Same.

That frustrates me, you know?

Yeah.

Not a huge deal.

Just everything compounding and then in front of everyone being like, you don't say anything nice.

Like, and they're just like having

that comment.

She's right for being mad at that comment.

Yeah.

In front of, I would say, why would I say something nice to you right now?

You couldn't go to Ross.

But you pissed me off all day.

Like, be just be lucky I'm here.

Especially because she said, like, she actually did move on.

They were making videos.

Like, you wouldn't know if I was mad at you.

Right, right.

And, like, and then you're going to go back to like starting a fight in front of people.

I will say

she had a lot of things to be mad at him him for.

And I feel like she laid it out very well.

Like in terms of, she's a good arguer, right?

Like

I felt bad for him because he was like getting berated, but everything she said, like she made her point.

Like she said what she said.

Yeah.

And like he was objectively wrong.

I don't think he internalized any of it.

No, he was objectively wrong.

But then when he said like, can you say something nice to me?

Like

I.

I felt for him like a smidgen in that moment.

No, I didn't.

I didn't.

No, when he said it in the apartment, not at the thing.

Like he was like, yes, he's just accepted this dressing down.

He's like, kind of apologizing.

He still doesn't know what he did wrong.

But he just wants to hear like something nice about himself after everything.

And if I were like KB, I would have, I wouldn't say anything nice.

But of course, as a viewer, I'm just saying it's like, he just needed to hear something nice about himself.

But like, that's just where you can, like, be like, but the fact that that was his reaction is why they're really not right for one another.

No, no, and like then they're still filling out their marriage license.

Why?

Right.

And remember, she was the one who wanted him to like beat up a guy if he came and talked to her at a bar.

Like that was so never going to happen.

He can't even go to Ross.

No, so of course these two are not getting married.

They should call it now.

Like Annie and Nick weren't even the first ones that I felt like needed to call it like same.

They were having like

issues.

Relationship issues.

But I think

they also were really like in love, like enjoying each other while also struggling to figure out like their relationship.

No one else is even enjoying each other.

Yeah.

Anton and a lot of them are counting down the minutes until the experiment is over.

Joe and Madison, Joe's not enjoying anything.

Joe Joe is not.

And KB and Edmund are not.

There's no good times, really.

Yeah.

I have a lot writing on Jordan and Sparkle.

I did not expect to like love them so much.

They've just sort of come out of left field.

And I feel like I can think of a person in recent memory who I feel is doing this so for the right reasons.

Like Sparkle really gives authentic energy.

Yeah.

Also, the editor was out sick for the wedding dress shopping episode because they showed every girl in two dresses.

They've never done that before.

I just want to say, there are certain parts of every Love is Blind season that I will fast forward.

Trying on tuxes in wedding gowns, fast all the way fucking forward.

And then the 30 minutes before the wedding,

I was talking to my mom, running outside.

They tell them a bunch of hooey that doesn't matter.

They act like they're getting married and then they don't get married.

Right.

I skip to that.

Right too.

Do you?

I do.

Those two things I didn't even watch.

I watched the wedding dresses just because we were watching the episode and I'm scared of Zach loves the episode so much.

I I can't fast forward when I'm watching with him.

And they showed every girl in two dresses and I thought each one like

chose the wrong dress.

Like they should have gone with the first one.

But usually they show us one dress.

So they are trying to extend this season and showing us a bunch of shit that we don't need to see.

Yeah.

And they just announced that there's a reunion, which that should be like the standard.

There should be a reunion.

We need a reunion.

We need it.

It's been a year.

Let's talk about it.

I do just feel like Nick is about to have this ass handed to him now that like it's out, that he ended the relationship.

I know that Annie went on vile files.

I don't know if she's meant to be like the sympathetic character, but like for me, she's not.

Oh, she's literally Arianomatics.

I just, I wanted to say that they have the same fucking face.

Yeah, I just like, I was shocked that he ended it as abruptly as he did because it looked like they were sitting down.

Hey, brunch was good.

Drank too much last night.

And like he comes with like ending it, but like, yeah, it needed to end.

What?

He should wait till the end.

He should waste some time.

No, I have respect.

He should have lying side someone.

Like, and her reaction was just all weird, too.

She's so dramatic, like packing her bags.

No, and she was like, chill.

And on the one hand, she's like yelling at him.

Then she's like begging him to give it more time.

No, and then she was like, and I knew it.

I was right.

Well, yeah, you spoke it into existence.

You were right.

Yeah, you manifested this for yourself.

Yeah.

Things you did, that.

Madison's next.

Not that it's all her fault because Joe was just not.

Because he was never into it.

But I mean, he's like, you know,

on the one hand, like, you're allowed to call off your engagement if it doesn't feel right.

But, like, he called off his engagement as like invitations were going out.

Like, he's obviously

cold-footed.

I feel like he's just been struggling since the beginning with not being attracted to her and not wanting to pull out because of that.

Because it's just such a bad look.

Yeah.

It happens every season.

There's somebody who's just like cannot get past the looks, but doesn't want to say it.

They're just sort of like waiting for the other person to say it or just waiting till the very last minute.

But then the reality starts to set in that, like, you're inviting people to your wedding.

Yeah, but I think he's also annoyed by her.

I think, like, her personality is coming off more annoying than it did in the pods.

Yeah.

And

it's unfortunate that he just has this history of like having called off an engagement because he looks like an engagement caller offer.

Right, but this doesn't count.

I don't, I don't count it.

Just saying.

Just saying.

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