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Good morning, girlies.
It's the tolls.
It's Jackson Claude and we're your hosts.
It's your favorite show, the fast five things you need to know.
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I sound amazing.
Welcome back to the toast and happy Friday.
Hope everybody's having a pargelicious entree to the weekend.
Doesn't feel for me quite like a Friday yet because like I just like picked up and, you know, moved my family out west, very Oregon Trail style.
It's giving like a Wednesday, so I'm not mad.
It's just like, I can't believe it's Friday.
I would have to write down my queenie and weenie.
I was like, oh, okay.
I didn't move my family out west and it still doesn't feel like a Friday to me.
I don't know why today's.
So it sounds like a feeling for people who move their families out west?
No, no, no.
I feel like it's also for people who are sad where they are,
whose week was actually quite ordinary.
It just doesn't feel like a Friday, let alone a Friday leading into a long weekend.
Yeah, let's talk about just like a little bit of a housekeeping update.
There is no episode Monday.
Oh, why?
Because we respect national holidays.
Now, Monday's national holiday is a little murky.
If you're celebrating Columbus Day, you're celebrating Indigenous people.
I'm celebrating all of it.
I'm going to tell you.
I don't give a fuck.
I think I'm celebrating whatever gets me the day off from work.
I think we should have two days off, one for Columbus and then one for Indigenous peoples.
I will celebrate all of that.
I love that idea.
Let's start writing up the legislation.
I think that would be really beautiful.
I would like to thank Columbus and the Indigenous folks for giving me Monday off.
I love you all.
And you know what?
I actually shout out to the Indigenous because I feel like for a while, Columbus Day was like,
no, you're all coming into the office.
It kind of was losing its power, severity.
Yeah, as one of the bank holidays.
And then the Indigenous were like, well, actually, maybe we should rebrand it.
And you know what?
I'm with them.
Well, actually, what if it was about us?
Right.
Not the Indigenous and making it about themselves.
Yeah, but like getting people, getting people to take it seriously again.
I'm so here for it.
I respect the Indigenous and their like right to be taken seriously.
And so however we got here, I'm just so glad.
I really need that Monday off this time around.
Like I am clinging to that day.
I have scheduled like so many party things for myself.
I really need it.
Yeah, and then it's like we get, we start with Tuesday's episode and then that night we have dancing with the stars.
So like it's just next week's going to be amazing.
Yeah, we're just like kicking off the week with a bang.
Yeah.
So, can I tell you two things I forgot to pack that have like actually been ruining my life?
Sure.
And it's funny how when you go to a new place and you order on Amazon, like when I go to your house, I can order something on Amazon and it will be there in three hours.
It's actually crazy.
New York's getting better.
They have a lot of like same-day delivery.
Like Los Angeles, like there's not a warehouse here for miles because I forgot my breast pump charger, which has single-handedly been the worst thing to ever happen to me.
I currently have a clog.
Okay.
And I'm not blaming the charger.
I'm just saying.
Well, does your breast pump still have battery?
It has one bar left, so I've just been like really scarce.
Yeah.
So, and obviously that contributed to the clog.
Then I brought my Amazon fire stick so I could like plug into the TV and have all of my programs to watch Chancellor with the Stars.
Forgot the remote.
So it's like, I have a full-blown fire stick.
I can't even turn it on.
I have a
breast pump.
I can't use it.
And I ordered these items three days ago.
Bezos do better in Los Angeles.
It's not like, it's not giving tech capital.
Maybe they have a different thing.
Like maybe like Walmart same-day delivery, like pops off out there.
Yeah, no, I've been Instacarting Target same-day delivery quite a bit.
Target doesn't have a Spectre.
They had Spectre.
Oh, and also one of my flanges broke in the suitcase.
They had the flanges at the Target.
So I was able to get that, but they did not have a V12 power cord.
Understood.
And you don't have any mama friends in LA who have that?
Put the call out.
Put the call out.
To be clear, I got here, I realized it, and I ordered it immediately, and it's still not here.
It's just
what is this?
Well, if anyone knows journeys in LA who has a Spectra charger, which if you've, if you've breastfed, then you definitely have one.
Um, reach out to our girl, she's in need.
Well, mine's coming today, so like, thanks, but no thanks.
Oh, do not reach out to our girl.
Do not come.
No, and in general, like, do not come, do not reach out, you know, just like, and that's
like me in LA.
That's just LA people reaching out to you.
Do you feel like overwhelmed with outreach?
Ben is, you know,
trying to do and see and be everywhere all at once.
He's like, we're in LA.
And I'm telling you, he's going to end up cracked out on the street.
Like, he's going to get caught up in the Hollywood of it all.
And just, it's going to be bad.
Because he's already like, okay, well, we have to go to this party and then this for Halloween and this XY.
Like, please.
Are you going to like a party Halloween?
Like, I actually am.
The one.
I can't.
The one.
No, no, no, no, no.
You have no idea.
Like, it's not.
It's, it's not.
It's not public facing.
It's not public facing.
Oh, wow.
Can't wait to hear more.
Yeah.
Well, I've already had a full day now that we're on PT.
I actually went shopping this morning.
Oh, my God.
That's insane.
Don't shop before you podcast.
So I'm wiped out.
But I didn't actually buy anything yet.
Just looking, just wanting to like get inspired.
I feel like I've been out of the loop a little bit.
You know, I have some events coming up, like my birthday, and I just wanted to get inspired.
Events, like, you know, occasion, sorry, not like parties, like occasions in which I need to shower myself in gifts.
Oh, oh, very different.
Okay, because I thought you were like, events, events, I want to go to events, invite me to your events.
Yeah, but you know what?
I have a closet full.
I like, I actually have stuff for those set events, but not to shower myself in gifts.
So I was just, you know, perusing this morning.
Perusing.
But yeah, no, it definitely was a tiresome task.
Oh my God, she's exhausted.
I know this time is like really a crazy.
I didn't realize how much my energy changes like in this stage of pregnancy, like in the wee hours of the morning, and how like the decline just starts so soon.
Well, I appreciate you working with me in my Pacific time, and I think Ben appreciates it more.
Of course, he does.
Because it was hard not to make myself my queenie of the week because I'm such a queen for, like I said, being moving my family out west.
Like Like, I'm on the Oregon Trail.
Yeah, but you're not your queenie of the week.
No, and actually, I'm feeling a little conflicted about my weenie of the week because there is something that is like so weenie-like.
Say it.
Like, go for it.
What's the, what's holding you back?
What's holding me back is that it's like a, it's not a celebrity.
It's like a private citizen-ish.
Oh.
Ish.
But like, this private citizen, like, posted something online, like, for the masses.
Oh, Oh she entered into the public sphere.
Right.
Thus stepping into the arena.
And I feel like I kind of have to give it to her.
Sorry, I'm going to do it.
But I do.
If I get nervous, I have a backup.
Oh, but it's like so boring.
And like, ah, color me intrigued.
Yeah.
So other than that, House, Los Angeles, have you been to Erewhon yet?
No, I haven't.
Ben grocery shopping yesterday.
While Ruby was napping, he like went shopping for us and he was, I don't know where he went.
I just know that like I walked out and there was food everywhere.
So I was food like prepared food.
I feel like LA has good like no, like groceries, groceries for the for the house.
And when Ben got in bed, he was eating this like little Erewhon chocolate.
And I said, did you fucking go to Erewhon, bitch?
That's like not grocery shopping, first of all.
That's like an excursion without me.
Because I said, like, I do want to go to Erewhon and film like a TikTok.
And he didn't.
He said, like, they sell Erewhon brand, like, snacks.
He went to Whole Foods.
Oh, he's already started lying.
it's the first time it's the first time he's got drugs something i'm noticing about la like you will not see plastic bottles everywhere you go they've got these green little bitches mountain valley yeah i have mountain valley you guys claudia and i are cutting down on our micro plastics like jackie told me that the average american and let me tell you i love plastic like i'm not one of these freaky deeky like plastic paper plastic plastic fork plastic straw plastic cup plastic bottle plastic make my life easier like i don't give a fuck okay but then jackie told me that the average american's eating a whole credit card a week and i I was like, yeah.
Something about the credit card like really, I'm like, holy shit.
And is that going to my breast milk?
And it's like these little shards.
So you know what?
I'm so, I'm microplastic free.
Yeah.
I've been off microplastics for a few days now.
I don't feel a difference.
I wonder how long it takes to detox.
I'd be like 30 days.
I have been off microplastics for a few days now.
And I want to tell you, I've never felt worse.
But I think that's more of my clog.
Ugh, clog.
Like I have sympathy pangs.
This clog, like, not to make everything about the clog, but oh my God.
no when i was nursing with harry like i was starting to get like a clog a week no yeah and and that was when it was the end of my run like oh i can't live like that yeah it's so painful i there was like a couple days where i couldn't even come into work i was like so in pain like it was horrible i don't know if you have like a level triple pain
I've had a couple of clogs and they vary like in pain, but I'm usually able to get them out.
I'm sorry.
I'm jumping right to Ben sucking it out.
Like, I don't care.
I might have been like,
I don't even know if that works all the time.
The thing about clocks is like every time you have one, you have to try.
Like, you have 10 different things and one of them will work and you don't know which one it was that time.
Yeah.
So up until this point, like the two or three that I've had have successfully been sucked out by my husband.
And last night we sucked, sucked, sucked, didn't work.
I've been nursing so much, didn't work.
And now I'm starting to feel like physically sick, which is like really not good.
So I need to work on that today.
Yeah.
I don't even know what to tell you.
You have to do like everything, hot and cold.
I I know, I know.
I'm just like so lazy.
I'd almost have to just like live with the pain than like soak my tit in Epsom salt.
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah, and then also, oh, yeah, have you tried Haka with Epsom salt and water?
No,
that one like sometimes works, it's so weird.
But also, do you think I have a Hakka here?
You don't?
Oh, you don't like the Haka.
No, but I'm like off that like milk collection thing, you know?
Yeah, sometimes you just need to like wait it, like, ignore it, wait it out, and really, like, in time, it will go away, right?
Oh,
right.
I don't know, I don't think so.
I think you could like go to the hospital.
No, well, you could get mastitis, but you could get mastitis in the first hour.
Like, I just think like sometimes it has to sort itself out, and there's really nothing you could do.
It's a real misery.
Like, I'm really sorry you're going through that.
That's okay.
Like, I said, you know, I'm just a woman on the Oregon Trail.
At least I'm not dying of dysentery.
No,
I love your trail, Oregon.
I love your Bruno, Bruno.
I'm ready to dive into the stories, but I'm not, I don't want to rush.
You tell me.
And we kind of have a crazy episode today.
And I'm not going to lie, like, I do feel rushed just like being on Pacific time.
Like, I feel, you know, I don't know.
I know, like, he can't have no longer.
He can't like silly dally because we want to get the episode up.
And so I feel rushed.
Like, I'm just going to admit it.
That's how I feel.
Okay, so it's another thing we could blame Ben for.
Jackie's feeling rushed.
I would love that.
I would love it.
Um, let's start because we have a crazy, like a crazy thing is about to happen.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
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Our first story of the day, I don't really understand what it all means.
Maybe you can help me.
Charlie XCX has a new A24 film called The Moment, starring Charlie, Kylie Jenner, Alexander Skarsgaard, Rachel Sanat, and more.
So yesterday, a trailer dropped for a new film by A24 and Charlie XCX called The Moment.
Kylie is featured in it alongside a lot of other actors and such.
I did not watch the trailer because it said it could cause seizures.
So like the Kardashians' recent obsession with like penetrating Hollywood from like an acting perspective is not something I'll genuinely understand.
Um, we've talked about this many times, how like acting seems horrible.
And if you're a billionaire, like, why would you do that?
And if you are gonna enter the world of film and you're literally dating like the biggest movie star in the world, why are you doing it with Charlie XCX?
Like, no, T, no shade, but T and Shade.
What the hell does Charlie XCX know about making a movie?
I don't know, but A24 seems to know a lot.
Like, they're kind of like the go-to studio.
They're not my cup of tea all the time, but like, no, they're very Gen Z.
They're the buzzy new studio on the block.
I don't know.
Like the whole vibes, I know everybody's obsessed with Rachel Sanat.
And like fun fact about me, I have no idea who that is, but she's like always being pushed.
Like I see her everywhere.
She's got a show coming out at HBO.
People love her.
Personally, I'm not familiar.
And so.
I don't love that like Kylie's entree into acting, which I don't need, mind you.
Like, why don't you get back to the cosmetic studio and put on a bronzer, you know?
But her entree into acting, like, it's going to be with this group of people.
I don't know.
I just don't get it.
No, the more she like digs into this group and like this side of Hollywood, like the more I'm having a hard time.
I know.
And I actually don't get it.
Like, why couldn't she have a cameo in like Marty McFly or whatever is coming out soon?
There were so many things.
She should have been in Barbie, like if she wanted to.
She could have been in Willy Wonka
with Timmy.
She could have been in Oomba Loompa.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like there are so many different ways.
Like I just, I don't, it's not really for me.
But again, I didn't watch a trailer.
Did you watch the trailer?
No, but there are also people who like
stand A24.
I don't know.
I've never heard of like a music studio, sorry, a movie studio that like has fans, you know?
Yeah, and so people just wait, oh, it's an A24 movie.
Oh, yeah.
Does that mean something?
Yes.
Um, and so this must be really thrilling for the A24 fans.
But do you think the A24 fans are also like diehard Kylie fans?
Because I could see them.
No, I don't think they fuck with Kylie.
Kylie's like too mainstream, you know.
Yeah.
Yeah.
A24 is like fringe and edgy.
I don't know.
It's not Jackie.
You know what?
You know what was an A24 A24 movie?
The Julia Fox one.
Sure.
But you know what else?
The lobster.
Baby girl.
Okay, exactly.
I know the gems.
Riche's gemstones, yes.
No, no, no.
The Julia Fox one with gems.
It wasn't.
Oh, Adam Sandler.
Uncut gems.
Uncut gems, yes.
That's my, but I didn't see it or anything.
Uncut jobs.
Exactly.
exactly that's the uh the extent of my knowledge speaking of though um kardashians and acting the trailer for kim's show like did drop oh yeah um she's wearing a pantsuit what did you think the show like looks like an objectively good show like just like legal drama high power divorce lawyers fighting it out
and i love the concept like i get it
it looks good
it looks good in it looks good in spite of her.
Yes, because even if she did the best job ever, it's like, why is Kim Kardashian
watching Kim?
She's far too famous.
I talk about this all the time.
She is far too famous to be believed as anything other than Kim Kardashian.
It's like Kim Kardashian's not a lawyer.
Well, actually.
And someone was like talking trash to her in the trailer.
I'm like, you can't say that to her.
Yeah, who are you?
Yeah.
So it actually looks like a good show, but like not even because my fave is in it, but like in spite of the fact that my fave is in it.
It's giving Lipstick Jungle
a great show.
No, I don't know what those bitches in lipstick jungle actually did for work.
Did they work in a magazine?
They were business women.
Right.
They just like went to work every day.
Unclear what they were doing at work, but they were like pushing paper around.
I loved that show.
So I love to see like women in business.
It's giving ugly baddie.
Like there's,
I think there's actually potential for this show, but yeah, Kim being in it.
And this goes back to what we were saying.
Like, what is with the Kardashians' obsession with like being actors?
I don't know.
It's so unnecessary.
Like, if I was a billionaire and like I sold my businesses and like what everything Kim's doing is, like, great, you know, skims.
Why would you want to act like long days on set to make $3 compared to what you make when you like launch a lipstick?
I don't get it.
I don't get it either, but to each their own.
So, if this movie looks exciting to you, like, I'm excited for you.
Oh, yeah, not to like yuck everyone's yums.
If you're excited about this, like, I'm genuinely happy for you.
Confused by you, but also happy for you.
Confused by you, yeah.
Yeah.
Um, are you ready for our next story, which is some crazy news that broke this morning that Real House Rise of Potomac star Wendy Oceffo and her husband Eddie have been arrested for felony fraud.
15 counts.
15 counts.
So Real House as a Potomac star, Wendy Osefo.
Jackie, by the way, wait, you're bringing this news for me.
Like, I have not heard this.
And I thought you were about to say Wendy O'Seffo.
I'm like, oh, what did she do?
And her husband.
I'm like, oh, they're getting divorced.
Like, no.
I did not know where that sentence was going.
They were arrested for fraud.
The Carroll County Sheriff's Office in Westminster, Maryland tells page six: the married couple was taken into custody Thursday, but is in the process of being released after each placing a $50,000 bond.
Wendy faces 15 total charges, including seven felony false slash misleading info fraud in excess of $300,
seven misdemeanor on false misled info fraud in excess of $300,
and a misdemeanor charge of a false statement to an officer per the Carroll County Sheriff's Office Public Information Officer.
I mean, in excess of $300 could literally be any amount.
Could be $30,000.
$301.
Oh, or it could be $300,000.
Oh, I thought it was below $300.
No, no, no, no.
In excess of $100.
Oh, okay.
Cause I'm like, oh, I'm like, someone's coming for Wendy.
This feels like she's being targeted.
I understand now.
Okay, I misunderstood.
Okay, this is so crazy.
I also just feel like, it's not crazy that like a housewife finds herself in legal trouble.
It actually is just sort of a rite of passage, but it's very rare that it happens twice in one franchise.
It's like, there's always like, you know, it's the Jensha of Salt Lake.
It's the Teresa of Jersey.
But Karen Huger just got out of jail.
Now, I think it's the first time it's been like a double.
No, and also what's crazy is that they've been arrested.
Like there's a mugshot.
You know, a lot of people have like legal troubles or like financial tax troubles.
It's different.
And it just starts to be like a process of lawsuits and whatnot in court, but like
to go to jail immediately.
I mean, the women, the women are going to eat this off.
Is she still on the show?
I've fallen off so much.
I've fallen off of a lot of housewives too.
Wait, let me see.
Is the mass chat?
She was a good housewife, so I feel like like she was a woman.
Is Wendy still a real housewife of Potomac?
And they don't say former.
It says real housewife.
She, I agree, was a very good housewife.
I actually really liked her.
Yes, as of now, she's listed as a main cast member on Potomac.
However, there's a complication because as of October 25, her and her husband were arrested on fraud charges.
As of two hours ago.
Five minutes ago.
That's so crazy.
I'm in shock.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Now, I need to know more, obviously, because this is feeling oddly reminiscent.
Did she like it sounded like she didn't fraud the government?
Like Teresa, she like frauded people.
Um, very gen Xia-coded, or banks,
right?
Very chrysally coded, yeah.
I'm sure more will, more will emerge.
That's just the information that we have right now.
They're being released, though, on bond.
And being a housewife is like such a curse, it can be for some people.
Some people, it like you know, brings it back from the dead, Bethany Kim's also a bear man, but some people, it's just like truly a curse, yeah.
Well, we have to find out what she did.
I don't know what she did.
Yeah,
they're going to need to be a little bit more clear.
Yeah.
I'll wait for like one of those Bravo accounts, like read the documents to tell me what it's like.
No, or like Hulu documentary, like the Ocephos.
I was being such a Bravo blogger this morning.
Ben drove me to work, and on our way to work, he was like stopping to get coffee at this place.
And we drove past Sir.
And I'm like, oh my God, it's so funny.
And Ben like pulled over right after that.
He pulled, parked right in front of something about her.
They're literally like two doors down from one another.
And then we drove right past Pump and Tom Tom.
I literally went on on like a Bravo, and I was like taking pictures being like such a Bravo blogger.
How did everything look?
You know, it had that Lisa Vanderpump, like, run-down vibe, but everything, Sir looks seriously, like it's been foreclosed for 20 years because it just has, okay, Bruno.
Bruno.
Bruno just like vomited.
Is he okay?
Yeah, no, he was clearing his throat.
Of course.
He said, like, just in case I have another chewy ad, like, I'm ready, mom.
Put me in.
Put me in.
All of her properties look like seriously deceased, like inoperable, but
you go inside and they're like fully operable and really beautiful.
But on the outside, maybe that's also just like an LA thing.
Like everything looks dirty and grungy.
Perhaps.
Like Sur actually looks like it was like destroyed in a fire years ago and never touched.
So we have been to Sur like in the past years.
Did it look the same as it always did?
Yeah.
No, it definitely.
It looks the same.
Oh, okay.
That's good.
And something about her?
Something about her, you know, was boarded up, but it was also early.
I don't think that.
boarded up you're like closed that's not boarded like closed permanently no no like closed okay just like i don't think anybody's eating a sandwich at 9 a.m got it um so i poked my head in saw a couple of throw pillows cute yeah just had a busy morning you had a busy morning so did i i know mornings mornings we're morning people now And meetings, meetings, meetings.
Mornings, mornings, mornings.
Are you ready for our next story?
Some more movie news.
Movie news.
Bradley Cooper will star in an Oceans 11 prequel with Margot Robbie.
Like, this just feels like the most obvious headline.
I feel like I've read it.
Like, it's obvious new information, but, like, they're not already.
Bradley Cooper, though, was he in the rest of the movie?
They're not already in an Oceans movie.
Both of these people, like, now it makes sense that they're getting one.
It's a prequel.
It will take place before the 2001 heist comedy Oceans 11, which starred George Clooney, Matt Damon, Brad Pitt, and Julia Roberts.
But not Bradley Cooper.
No, no, no, no.
I mean, he would have been 12, but yeah.
Right, but how is it a prequel when he's like older now than they were in the original?
Is he much older now?
Like, maybe he's kind of right around the same age, or he's playing different characters.
Like, he might be playing a different character.
Do you think Jennifer Lawrence hates Margaret Robbie?
No, I really feel like there's space for both of them, and they're both doing
just fine.
No, they're both doing just fine for sure.
I was just wondering, like, I was just being toxic sorry but yeah she also could have been in this movie like there's just like an interchangeable and the thing about the oceans franchise is like it's pretty good and it hasn't been fucked up yet like even though no even when they did the one for girls i was like you know what that's good the girly one i enjoyed it i did too i think that it was good for women in the sense that like women could also do an oceans movie because i know some people thought that like women's couldn't do oceans movies women's couldn't do it and that like women's couldn't rob but women's could rob
so i think that was really strong for women and so yeah until they like up this franchise like keep going all the movies like are really good i like a heist movie it's not sad yet and they haven't like beat the horse dead it's still fine yeah
yeah actually that women one was really good then rihanna yeah
and hathaway
you know what that begs the question what in the world happened to aquafina don't you feel like there was like a couple year period where it was like aquafina this aquafina that like aquafina was everywhere Yeah, but I, one, that just like happens when you are everywhere all at once.
But
also, I feel like she's sort of like settled in her career now.
Like, she's really like a working actress.
I watched Crazy Rich Asians on the plane, too.
So good.
So good.
John Chu.
I didn't realize.
John Chu.
John M.
Chu, excuse me.
We're coming up on like Wicked for Good.
Stupid title.
Yeah, I agree.
Wicked for Good.
I saw a headline about it today about like John M.
Chu doing With for Forgood.
I'm like,
So, what was the first one called?
Just Wicked?
Wicked.
And then this is Wicked For Good.
Why are you saying it like that?
Wicked Forgood.
There's no, like, there's no rule of how I have to say it.
It's supposed to be said, like, wicked.
For good.
For good.
I have been changed.
For good.
For
good morning, millennials.
I've been changed for good.
For good.
and you better believe it.
Yeah, it almost is Wicked Season where everybody's going to be like so annoying, myself included.
Like, I love the movie.
I just, like,
it's kind of how I feel about Taylor Swift.
Like, obsessed with Taylor Swift, obsessed with what she does, but like, the way people act around her, like, is really good.
You just, like, you want to enjoy it by yourself, like, in a room by yourself.
In a vacuum.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like, it's the fanfare that bothers you.
The fanfare makes me like hate the thing.
Even though Wiggin is so good.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But it's like the collabs, everybody getting dressed up, thinking they're like special.
You're not,
yeah, the tick-tocks, right?
No, that I like, I can't lie.
Which ones,
like a comet pulled from Marpet as it passes the sun.
Is that a trend?
We need to talk about kind of something major about us.
What do we do now?
It's not what we did, it's almost what we're not gonna do.
Halloween.
Yeah, Halloween is really,
it could happen.
Not like I, we probably won't be podcasting together on Halloween.
Right.
But I think that it's okay.
It's not like we had an idea yet.
One.
We didn't.
And I'm not worried.
Like, I will put Ben to work.
Two, I expect that Ben will do it.
And like, he's so excited that he's as far as an understudy, I think it's great.
I think it will bring like a freshness to Toaster Lean.
For sure, it's just the first time ever.
Yeah.
And I'm not upset.
I think it'll be good.
I think it'll be great.
But, like, that's kind of our thing.
I know.
But I am excited for the potential because you guys could, you could do siblings, but you could also do like a married couple.
Like, it just opens up more.
Now, Ben has like literally begged me already to do Jeffrey and Ina.
And I'm just letting you know I'm not fucking doing it.
One, because we already dressed up as them.
And you were Ina, and I was Jeffrey.
Yeah.
That would have been good.
We already did it.
Oh, should I do do it?
And then
well now it's too late.
No, no, no.
But we could talk about like how it would have been good.
And if it's like, if you're a horse signed and like, you really have to be the one driving it.
But I just want to say, like, everyone would have loved that.
Okay, by the way, so maybe we just bleep what I said.
Yeah, we'll put bleeps.
Or we'll come back.
Or like, you know, or if we leave it in, people will think, like, okay, of course they're not doing it.
And then if you do it, people will be surprised.
We'll see.
We'll decide after if this whole conversation gets cut.
Okay.
But what's your bed night be for Halloween?
Sound off in the comments.
So exciting.
So much potential.
We'll really miss you dearly.
I'll enjoy watching it.
And maybe, like, if you're, you could just like get dressed up and like take a picture or something.
Yeah, I might, like, I might be able to join.
I don't really know.
Right.
But we're preparing for all eventualities.
Of course.
We're extremely prepared.
Yes.
Are you ready for our next story?
What number?
Four.
No, right?
No.
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Our fourth story, I don't know if you've seen this, but I'm kind of obsessed because Zoe Deschanel and her property brother,
Jonathan Scott's New York City home was featured in Architectural Digest.
Wait, that was New York City?
Yeah.
Right?
It was enormous.
I thought it was like a palatial estate in Los Angeles.
Are you sure?
New York City.
I don't know what neighborhood, but it was an abandoned office building.
So I recently started following Architectural Digest on Instagram, and I have to say two things about it.
It has so enhanced my life.
Like, I really enjoy it, but also, they're so thirsty being like, here's a celebrity's house, shop our dupes using our affiliate links.
Like, it's getting desperate.
Oh, and also, like, they used a designer for their house, and they're like, it was an AD 100 designer.
Like, as if like they partnered.
No, by the way, no, you're wrong.
So, AD 100, I've actually learned a lot about like AD 100 is when you're an interior designer and you make that list, it is like the biggest stamp of approval.
Yeah.
So, when Architectural Digest, like, uh,
features your house and then your designer was also AD 100, it's a nice synergy, but it's not like, it's not a scam.
No, I didn't think it was a scam.
I just felt like they were trying to be like, yeah, yeah, we like him too.
He's AD 100.
Like that anything like giving desperate.
Yeah, like giving like, hey, look at me.
He's 80.
Yeah, I'm telling you, they're desperate.
They couldn't talk about the designer without saying he's AD 100.
Now, this house was amazing.
I have so much to say about it.
I'll actually pull up the feature and we can look through the photos together, but it was just a reminder that Zoe Dishanel married a property brother.
It is by far the craziest pop culture crossover in history.
And the fact that they like started dating and it wasn't just like a funny kooky thing.
Like they got married.
It's giving like Sarah and Wells from the bachelor.
Yeah.
And then, of course, like he's a contractor by trade and like that's his job, but he's also like a TV contractor.
But
seeing this project and like the high level that he contracted at for his home with his movie star wife was really, really impressive.
And she was also talking about how he used like a lot of his chops and his contacts and like being married to a contractor is like so Pargy but it's just like funny how he's not just a TV contractor like things he built that this house is insanely beautiful and that AD like features very elevated too the shit he does on HGTV like not to be a bitch but it's like small and ugly compared to this yeah no but it's just like more like relatable and affordable
and this was just like on another level and I also feel like architectural digest they feature like tons of celebrities everyone has a nice style but a lot of people have like very similar style like very modern very yes you know warm woods and beige and whatever
trending right now which is beautiful the trends are beautiful but i have not seen a feature like this in a while of something that was like unique because plenty of people do unique and it's like fucking weird ugly
unique and unreal like beautiful the photos are insane um like so colorful so really you're right like the polar opposite of every celebrity's house and yes like he put his whole contract
into this one like i i didn't know he was I know he's a property brother and a contractor by trade, but like I did not know he could operate at this level.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like he's gorgeous.
He did his big one.
Um, so they did a video taking everyone on the tour.
Like every room is just more special than the next, like moldings on moldings, details on details, like between the designer, the AD100 designer and.
the property brother himself and Zoe because this really feels like Zoe's taste.
Personality, like the quirky.
If he were built, if like property were building his own house, I don't know that it would look like this
right if she was building her own house it would look like this it just might have been like a different contractor if he weren't her husband but the fact that he got this job done like damn I'm impressed a hundred percent it's so gorgeous and I can't believe that this is in New York I never would have pegged them as people who lived in New York it they're so bizarre like just they are so weird no but in a good way they're just so unexpected and like of course they're gonna have a beautiful home like she's a movie star and he's a contractor but like right they're just like it was above and beyond i was really really impressed and i feel like everyone was because i keep seeing i don't follow either of them i actually don't even follow architectural digest and i keep seeing the content i feel like it's really going viral like everyone is really like taken with this apartment you should check it out It's insanely gorgeous.
We sound like we work for Architectural Digest, but we literally don't.
It's, it's just, it's shocking how different and, and really beautiful it is.
And then it's just a reminder that these two not only like dated, but are married and they have built a life together, a home.
The party's like really a fusion of of the two of them and that's what it's true like his skills her style and quirkiness his craftsmanship
her florals
it's really um really cute really really cute maybe i'll follow ad now you're saying it's a good follow i do but just be prepared to be spammed with a lot of affiliate links well i like to shop
Yeah, it's actually so true.
Jackie's going to be like their number one customer on their Shop My account.
Yeah, as long as they're giving me the goods, like, and it's, you know, my style.
The thing is, it's not all my style.
It's not.
It's like very abstract.
No, but I think it's very colorless.
I think it should be like all styles.
It is, actually, it is.
And so every once in a while, like, it will be my style.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Or at least just like impressive and something to behold.
Different.
Something new.
Yeah.
Anyways, mazel to the properties.
Zoe and Jonathan property.
Yeah, and like just as for the other property.
Well, you know, there's a third property brother that's like not famous.
Yeah, but there's also a second one who's no longer famous.
Right.
Left behind.
What's his name?
Well, which one is she married to?
Jonathan.
Drew.
Drew property?
Drew property, yeah.
The property brethren.
What is his last name?
I honestly don't even want to know.
Scott, Scott.
Scott.
To me, it's property because they're the property brothers.
Just like we're the Ashre sisters.
Drew and Jonathan Property.
Mrs.
Zoe Property.
Zoe Property, yeah.
Are you ready for our fifth and final story?
It's a little book news, a little book tech news, a little book club tech news.
Okay.
I don't think you've heard it.
Reese Witherspoon's book club has partnered with WhatsApp
for chats about books.
So Reese Witherspoon's Monthly Book Club has teamed up with WhatsApp.
This is like such a fit and vinyl on a Friday story.
Totally.
To connect with more of its readers globally.
With the partnership, Reese's Book Club members can use the private messaging app to chat through the latest book club selections, exchange voice notes, and discuss plot theories with other readers.
Okay, that was cute until voice notes.
Because like they're all strangers, you know?
No, this is honestly so sick.
Like this.
This is so fucking cool.
They're all strangers in a chat.
But Hello Sunshine's SVP of brands and strategic partnerships said rehese's book club has become a cultural force curating books that bring joy and champion women's voices whatsapp gives our community the space to stay connected share their love of reading and turn book moments into lasting relationships so it's a facebook group which like the redheads already have
without the toxicity well we already have one at the redheads so like
been there done that yeah welcome reese welcome to the 21st century we've been here yeah i guess like i get it and the thing is like reese hello sunshine like they're worth over a billion dollars, like purchased by BlackRock.
So like we can make fun of them all we want.
But like one thing they did, that.
Yeah.
And
they think it's cute like for community books, chat.
It is like until, you know, it turns into like some sort of like, it always, every, remember when they said like Taylor Swift launched an app, like back in her lover era, like her flap arrow was like a Swifty app and it turned into like a neo-Nazi platform.
She had to shut it down.
And then like, you know, it can turn into Antifa.
Like that's what's going to happen.
Yeah.
It's going to be a WhatsApp.
It's going to, this one sounds like Reese's like like, really crazy, like, female, like, almost like toast Facebook energy, like toxic women.
I feel like it could stink of that, honestly.
I agree.
Good luck to you guys.
Online forums, like, what they think about Reese, I know, like, you know more than me, but I do know a lot about the internet.
Like, I just wouldn't recommend getting into like online community building.
Yeah.
No, um,
I would agree.
And then, like, there's like people's phone numbers are like just out there.
Right.
So much information.
And a voice note feature.
And a lot of people also like put their like WhatsApp, I don't use it a lot, but people like really use it as their primary messaging platform.
And you have like a profile.
You put a picture like with you and your kids.
It's like almost like Facebook kind of.
So I don't know.
It's a lot of information to give to a bunch of randos.
Like to talk about a book.
But I do, the thing about reading is like I love to talk about it with people.
So like,
I guess it could be fun if it's kept pure.
I don't have a lot of hope.
Big if.
Don't have a lot of hope.
So let's dive into our final segment of the week, Queenie and Weenie of the Week, where every Friday Jackie and I like to, you know, wrap up the week with a bow, take a look back at a glance at what happened this week and give her, give out two awards, Queenie of the Week and Weenie of the Week.
Queenie of the Week is just like what it sounds like.
Were you a queen of this week?
You might be queenie of the week.
Were you weenie of the week?
You might be weenie of the week.
We're going to start positive with Queenie.
Jackie, who is your queen?
My queenie, I don't know if my queenie is even in the room with us today, but it's Daniel from Dear Media.
My Queenie is also Daniel from Dear Media.
He is not in the room with us today.
Oh.
But I spoke to him this morning and he was like living for his like new online persona.
He's like, everybody knows like I'm Daniel.
will he be back next week do you think like just taking turns carolina is here she's par delicious um we are we're swapping like josh will be here caitlin yeah i'm just kind of like i have a lot of producers because i have a huge show here at tier media there's a lot to produce there's a lot of production that needs to be done so while today um well let me tell you daniel was in here like up until we were chit-chatting like he's so swirly like right up until he's probably so sad to miss the episode he'll have to let him
he was also my queenie of the week okay so then he's totally the queenie.
He's the unanimous queenie.
And I've decided to speak my truth on my weenie.
I'm going to do my weenie first because I feel like our weenies might be related.
So I just want to get mine out first.
And then you can dig in on the specificity of yours because my weenie is the entire city of Denver.
Okay, that was about to be my weenie until I found this one.
And what they put forth on Love is Blind this season, it's really not looking good for the people of Denver.
And I think I wouldn't even want to single out one person in the cast because I think that they've already contributed to the
concerning nature of Denver's portrayal on Love is Blind this season.
And the Denver Board of Tourism should actually put a stop.
Like this will have a negative impact.
Send a cease and desist to Netflix.
Like you can't play the rest of these episodes.
So mine is of the same nature.
I saw a TikTok this morning that pissed me off so much.
And it's super viral.
And yes, it was made by like not a famous person.
So normally I wouldn't make them Weenie of the Week.
But I'm sorry, the girl who made this TikTok is my Weenie of the Week.
She had
the funny thing is her username is Big Wiener Energy, okay?
Okay.
She made a TikTok and it was supposed to be like,
you know, always when they have a new season of Some Reality, she'll be like, I knew him and he was mean to me in high school.
People love to like make their bones.
And increasingly people have used it as like a ploy for followers, a ploy for engagement.
And the crimes that they're like accusing these people of are less and less.
And in this particular video, what she accuses, so this girl, girl, I'm going to play for you guys.
She says she went on a couple of dates with a guy, Joe, who's on the season of Love is Blind.
And here's what happened.
Not even my favorite guy.
Like, not even someone I feel compelled to defend, but now I do.
To be clear, I'm not 100% sure if he's the one who's with Annie or Madison.
I don't even know who Joe is.
Madison, spoiler alert.
Okay.
So I live in Denver, and about a year and a half, maybe two years ago, I went on a couple dates with Joe from Love is Blind.
And he, at the time, like, ultimately broke things off with me because he wasn't ready for a relationship.
At least that's what he told me.
He may.
The difference between a year and a half and two years in the context of this is actually a very big difference.
You should probably just like let us know that's a big six month difference.
Continue.
I'm just gonna rewind in 10 seconds.
Okay.
About a year and a half, maybe two years ago, I went on a couple dates with Joe from Love is Blind.
And he at the time like ultimately broke things off with me because he wasn't ready for a relationship.
At least that's what he told me.
He maybe just didn't like me, whatever.
I just think it's so funny because at the time they would have just been like casting and beginning filming this season of Love is Blind.
So dude was literally telling girls that he was dating.
I don't know if he was dating other girls, but he was telling me that he wasn't ready for a relationship.
Meanwhile, like, I don't know, maybe two, three months later, he was getting engaged after he said he wasn't ready for a relationship.
Again, he probably just didn't like me and that was his excuse, but I think it's hilarious.
Lock him up.
So I have so many thoughts on why this makes this girl the biggest weenie of the week.
Well, yeah, because we're all just like, well, it sounds like he didn't like you and he just tried to let you down in like a non-offensive way.
Of course, and since when, when you break up up with someone, you have to be like so completely honest, like, that's actually hurtful.
Saying I'm not ready for a relationship, it's actually the nice thing to do.
Like, whatever he was thinking, he probably was not a match, and that's totally fine.
So, like, you coming on here being like, Well, and then he signed up for a show where he's supposed to get engaged, and it's like, Oh my god, the guy who went on reality TV is maybe not really wanting to get married, maybe just wants to be on reality TV.
Like, grow up, I don't even like this guy, Joe.
Now, over here, defending him.
Like, it's so, and the comments are like, Girl, I'm so sorry that happened to you.
This man is not safe,
no, safe, but it's really like exposing oneself because anyone who hears.
I opened the comments and I was so ready for everybody to be on my side.
Oh my god, no, they were like, girl, like, I heard this happen to a friend of mine, too.
But like, anyone who hears that, it's like, okay, he obviously was trying to let you down easy and tell you something that you wouldn't take personally offensive.
Like, that's something that you don't meet the one and then say, I'm not ready.
Like, you, but you can say that, like, if you just want to give someone in the boot, he didn't go.
It's what you say.
It's a thing to say that it makes it so the person doesn't have to like look inward and be like, oh, what was wrong with me?
No, he should be like, I don't like you, and you're not funny, and this and that.
No, and the trope of like somebody getting famous, and then people from their past like coming forward, you know, it used to happen a lot on the batcher.
And actually, when it did happen, because it was less frequent, it was kind of like a bombshell they would reveal.
It was always like in People magazine.
Now, it's taken its form, like on TikTok, where anybody that's ever met this person has an experience that it's less than flattering.
They go and they attempt to destroy this person, and that person's like the victim.
I'm sorry, literally, this man did absolutely nothing to you.
You, in my opinion, are a villain now making this TikTok, like trying trying to make your bones off of what?
Like people hating him?
Weenie of the century.
Right.
Also, just timeline-wise,
even if what she's saying is true, and she's like, and so he's telling girls.
I mean, I don't know if he was seeing other girls.
Oh, right.
So she keeps making these accusations.
Well, he might have just said that because he didn't like me.
Yes, entirely possible.
Well, he might have not been dating other girls.
Yes, entirely possible.
All of her caveats are beyond important.
Right.
She, like, threw it out there, like, he's saying this to a bunch of girls a few months before going on a serious dating show, but, like, actually, we only know that he said it to you.
And, and what's the few months?
Is it two months or it could be eight months?
Like, is it a year and a half or is it two years?
Like, it's kind of important, these little details, if you're going to make like huge accusations.
So, like, he went on a couple dates with you.
It didn't work out.
And then six months later starts this show.
Right.
Or longer than that, or shorter than that.
Or shorter.
Starts a show to like try and meet someone to be.
He said that they went.
He told her he wasn't ready for a relationship around the time that they started casting.
So that three months later, he ends up getting engaged because he got on the show.
Yeah.
And okay, so let's say, let's say he just wanted to be on the show.
That's like everyone.
Why is that?
Is that some big drama?
Right.
Right.
That's just in the world we live in.
Like, aren't we over that?
Like, not here for the right reasons?
Nobody is.
I think that you could also just like be there for both reasons.
Like, I would love to find.
I would love to find my soulmate if that happens from the show.
I'm like very open to it.
That would be awesome.
If that doesn't happen, I don't expect that it will happen because the odds of that happening are really slim.
Um, it would be fun to be on TV and get followers, like
well, and let's not also discount how important, integral to the enjoyment and entertainment of the show the people who are not there for the right reasons are.
Like, that's what we're all talking about always.
It's not the people who like, you know, are in love.
We're like, great, we're happy for you.
We're always talking about like the crazy people, the people who clearly aren't into their partner.
That's what makes the TV interesting.
So, there, I'm so over that whole like, they're not here for the reasons.
He's not even like moving in that way.
He's not even being that interesting.
His crime is not that he doesn't want to get married.
It's that he doesn't want to get married to Madison, to this girl, right?
Uh,
but I think it's like very normal for someone to go on the show, like wishing and hoping that it works out, but expecting that it won't, and just like
just doing it because, like, it's a fun thing to do, yeah, but like, and it's just another way to try and meet someone.
But, like, when you think about how many people go through casting, how many people make it to the show, and then how many people make it to engagements, and how many people get married and stay married.
It's the odds are not in your favor, tiniest.
So, like, yeah, I'm down for that to happen but i also expect that it probably won't yeah
um so that's irene of the week and honestly after talking it through i stand by it yeah i just feel like if you find yourself like someone that you know vaguely is on tv and then you find yourself like making it about you
it's just it's not my favorite No, and like every now and then somebody does come forward with like a crazy thing that happened and stories like this like TikToks going viral like this like really discount like the, the good ones.
Well, not good, you know what I mean?
Like the juicier ones.
Yeah, the ones we need to know about.
Correct.
Like Trevor.
Who's that?
Chelsea and Trevor.
Like, remember, he was all butthur, brokenhearted when she chose Jimmy.
Yeah, when he had like a mullet.
He had like a girlfriend.
A fiancé, yeah.
Like, yeah, if you have a fiancé, I want to hear from her.
Agreed.
If I went on a date with you a couple of times and it didn't work out, respectfully, take a sit, sit down.
Even if we broke up a couple weeks before filming started, like, and that's just the way the cookie crumbled.
Like, life happens.
That happens a lot.
That happened with Lauren last season.
Remember, like, Dave was like, a friend of mine knows a guy you were seeing a couple of weeks before, and they villainized her so bad.
Who gives a shit?
These are young people trying to find their life partner.
That's what you do.
The show starts filming now.
Maybe it would be, like, better looking if in three months I go up in time for the show, but, like,
you can't wait around.
Life happens.
You're not in.
Like, so yeah, you can say, I am putting all the past behind me, even if the past is is two weeks ago, and I'm starting anew, and I'm going into the pods, and I want to meet someone.
Tabula Rasa.
I can,
like, I could see how that is possible.
Yeah.
What came before doesn't matter.
What is that?
What's the lyric?
From
Life of a Showgirl.
Don't care where the hell you've been, because now you're mine.
Oh, yes.
That's it.
That's it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
She was titled.
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1,000%.
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