Love is Buffering: Tuesday, October 7th, 2025

Good morning, girlies.

It's the tolls.

It's Jackson Claude, and we're your hosts.

It's your favorite show, the fast-by things you need to know.

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It's the toast.

I sound amazing.

Welcome back to the toast and happy Tuesday.

Hey, Jacks.

How you dern?

Dern good.

Happy Tuesday to you, La Terde.

To you and all who celebrate.

To all who celebrate Tuesdays, which I think is everyone, it's a pretty inoffensive day.

Made it through Monday, dancing with the stars tonight.

We'll take it.

Oh, that's true.

I forgot that Tuesdays are now my new favorite day.

Yeah, they're now lit up by the stars.

You're looking like a sad beige pregnant woman, so chic.

Well, I thank you very much wearing my favorite gap maternity set that I now have in three colors, and I don't know how I lived before it.

Oh,

you know?

What's wrong?

What ails you?

But what isn't wrong?

What doesn't ail you?

Oh, I'm just like picking up my life and moving across the country because my husband asked me to.

I'm literally the most amazing wife ever.

It's insane.

I feel sick.

Well, ain't that the truth?

Shout out to the wives.

Literally.

How was your big event last night?

Big businesswoman things.

Thank you for bringing that up.

So yesterday I had the busiest day of my life and I decided to vlog it just to, you know, make it harder and more busy

and it's already up on the patreon so day in my life you know and it's important to remember whenever you're watching someone's day in the life vlog like they're choosing the best day to vlog um i think that all the time when i see people being like spend the morning with me and it's like well you clearly just like had a busy morning i know you lay around most of the time anyway

and i i do obviously that's what you did but like the fact that you're sharing that with us is why you're not like other creators and why yeah i've said in the vlog a thousand times like no days are like this because if you watch the vlog you're like when does this bitch see her kid?

Like, I was so busy.

Let me tell you, I spent all day, every day with my kid.

I yesterday just like had the busiest day, so I vlogged it.

Right.

Um, not all days are like that.

Like, I mostly do the toast and mother, you know, that's most of my days.

And Locke, not like other creators, acting like this is every day, doing a panel.

I spoke at an event.

I don't want to spoil the vlog, so it's on patreon.com/slash a toast right now.

Um, but there was it was kind of a star-studded panel.

I was sandwiched between a Snapchat panel hosted by Snapchat featuring Jeremiah and Nick from Love Island.

Then it was me, Ben, and Michael Bostic,

talking about the business of podcasting.

And then right after me,

right after me was Kevin Bacon, Kira Sedgwick's husband.

So I got to the green room and like Nick and Jeremiah were leaving and I was like, I don't want to spoil the vlog, but we did have an interaction.

They are in my vlog, which I appreciated.

And then when I got back from my panel, sweating my ass off, who's sitting on on the couch next to my purse?

Sir Kevin Bacon.

So it was really just like a star-setted afternoon.

Like I said, none of my days are like this.

It was a special day.

I also walked through a little bit like my pumping feeding schedule because I get a lot of questions about that, the toast scheduling.

So feel free to check that out.

I'm excited to watch it.

I haven't had a chance yet and it's on my content plate.

And I knew I was going to vlog it when I found out that Olivia was going to be in.

So I spoke at this like big conference called Advertising Week that Olivia happened to be at just like

a visiting week.

For her own, you know, work and once I knew she was going to be in town I knew I had to vlog it because something about Olivia like people just like they didn't even want to see me they wanted they were like the comments more Olivia did we get bits and bobs from the panel you did get bits and bobs from the panel because my social media manager Satchel was also at the conference she showed up to support her sister you guys believe three sisters were together I wasn't there I had I mean, if you had asked me, I guess I could have pieced together that my sisters were going to be together and I wasn't going to be there.

But when I saw a picture of the three of you guys, I was genuinely shocked.

I was like, am I in this picture?

No.

sorry to be to be clear i had no idea satchy was coming that was a surprise olivia got like an extra lanyard and gave it to her oh they surprised you with satchy yeah it was a surprise

okay i didn't know she was going to be there but yes she also does advertising things so all three sisters ended up together and i was just like how am i not there but then i felt in my head

and i was like

no like i felt like actually oh okay of course i'm not there like how could i possibly be there but imagine how i felt when the three of you went to rascal flats it's a really weird feeling to see your three sisters together.

It is.

And you're not there.

It's disgusting.

I don't experience that often because I really try to like be at everything.

Right, right.

Show up for one another.

I do not like this feeling.

I don't know how other sisters do it.

It's terrible.

It's really, but at least like I literally physically couldn't go and I was invited to speak on the panel.

I just like,

I was supposed to be in the video.

She was supposed to be in the video, to be clear.

Like the original panel was Jackie, Ben, and Claudia.

And Jackie, of course, could not come.

And the advertising week folk were extremely understood.

Right, right.

So

at least I don't have to feel like left out entirely.

I was supposed to be in the video.

That's how I felt watching Taylor Swift on Jimmy Fallon last night.

Like I literally was supposed to be in the video.

Oh my gosh.

I forgot that you could have been in the video.

Yeah, I had tickets to see Taylor and Jimmy Fallon and I couldn't go.

I don't want to talk about it.

Well, we are going to talk about Taylor.

That's a lot of people from Love Island.

We are going to talk about Taylor.

At least meant Jeremiah.

Like, you're being so soft on Nick.

Like, I can't with you.

Okay, because you you know, I've actually been very hard on Nick.

I've always liked Jeremiah.

I was kind of a Jeremiah defender during the season.

And then to run into Nick, whom I've actually been very hard on on the show, let me tell you, I understand like everything differently now.

First of all, he was so tall, so handsome, so lovely.

I'm sure he was.

And to be clear, they had

full insight.

They had no idea who I was.

Sometimes like you could tell somebody, it's like, oh, she has a big podcast.

Like, somebody tells me that.

Somebody, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Like whispers in your ear, and that's why I know people are being nice to me.

Um, because other than that, I'm just like this short girl, I'm very like easy to dismiss if you don't know that I have like this huge podcast, and it happens to me a lot.

And Nick, I can tell you for certain, like, he had no idea what I was.

I think he thought maybe I was like someone's assistant, you know, but he treated everyone with kindness, is what you're saying.

Oh, my God, he could not have been more lovely, like, honestly, both of them.

It's just not right what he did to Sierra.

I agree.

It's just not right.

Jackie, I'm holding space for two truths.

He just didn't give off the vibes of like someone who would do that to Sierra, honestly.

Like, I'm not doubting.

I'm just saying.

Okay.

I think that's useful information.

Yeah.

And I'll add it to his file in my brain.

Leave a note.

But it won't take out the other pages in the file.

Okay.

I'm not asking you to burn the file.

Don't worry.

The file remains intact.

But I'll take it into consideration next to my chocolate.

Yeah.

He was nice to my sister.

And my other sisters, all my sisters that were there, except for me.

Olivia and Margo, like, don't watch the violin.

Like, they did not give a fuck, you know?

Understood.

They were too cool for school.

They are so cool.

How are our sisters?

Our sisters are really good.

Actually, I saw Olivia this morning as well because she's in town.

We're just trying to spend like as much time together as possible.

Yeah.

She came over.

She's amazing, you know?

She's just like being Olivia, which

I imagine is a wonderful thing to be.

I imagine as well.

Well,

job well done.

Jolly, good job.

We are going to talk about Taylor on Fallon.

Sorry.

You also finally caught up on Love is Blind.

So we have a fifth and final story into TV Recap where we can like really talk.

I need to talk to you about like this crazy band.

What is going on in Denver?

You guys, they need help.

What is going on at Netflix?

Like they've gotten so soft, just like letting everyone leave and not following up.

Hello?

That too, but like, no, someone needs to check on these Coloradans.

Like, I feel like they sort of do their own thing over there in Colorado and no one really worries about them, but I'm officially worried about the entire state.

Love is Blind always ends up being like a referendum on the city in which it's filmed.

It tells you a lot about like the young people who live there, the dating scene, and just like the overall well-being of those who lived here.

And I feel like when we saw people like in Chicago the first season, I feel like it made the people of Chicago look really good.

Like they all had jobs, like they all

were normal.

Everyone on the show was a loser.

Like you can't think about it.

I'm sorry.

The first season of Atlanta was not loser.

Oh, I'm sorry.

Wait, sorry.

I was thinking first season was Chicago.

No, it was Atlanta.

Chicago was like Shane and

losers.

Yes.

I mean,

Atlanta.

Georgia.

Pacific Northwest was not a good look for those.

It was not.

I thought North Carolina was a good look for them.

I agree.

Jimmy and Chelsea season, there was a lot of good people, normal sound of bind people that came out of that season.

Let me ask the group something.

Am I the only one who constantly thinks about Jimmy and Jess and how like I think history would be different if he had chosen Jess?

Like when I watch this season of Love is Mine, I'm like, Jimmy should have chosen Jess.

Yeah, no, I do think about them a lot, but not nearly as much as you do.

I know you think about them all the time.

Especially when I'm watching the show, I'm like, Jimmy should have chosen Jess.

It would have been so happy.

So having said that, I think that this group of people are representing Colorado extremely poorly because sometimes like you, you look like, like, I think that the Pacific Northwest people like were kind of weird and and off.

I think that the Chicago people, they seemed like the Elka PNW, which I wasn't shocked to see.

I was like, okay, here we go.

We're going to get it.

The Chicago people were like losers.

And this group of people is crazy.

Like, they are

crazy people.

Yeah.

They're an unwell group of people.

Like, I've never felt like we need to check in on a state after

watching a season of Love this Fight.

I'm just like, oh, that was a bad season.

It honestly doesn't bode well for the legalization of marijuana because that's like Colorado's thing, right?

And it's like, look at these people.

They're fucking crazy.

No, hundred percent i didn't watch and they're so honestly it's so classic like they're so flaky everyone's just like not showing up no and then when you get to the scene in the honeymoon of joe and his um i won't say her name because i can't remember uh his choice i do it's an avenue here in new york but i'm not gonna say it because in case you didn't get there yet okay um yeah it's definitely giving substances

Oh, yeah.

It's giving substances.

So we'll do a formal TV recap.

That'll be our fifth and final story.

And then we also have dear toasters today because it is Tuesday and we would never renege on our commitment to Tuesdays.

And our commitment to the toasters at our deer.

And our commitment to one another.

Never.

And to Shry Guy who's here today.

It's the Shry Guy.

My trip to LA is pending.

Like I'm almost there.

Booked studio space.

I booked a couple of co-hosts.

I'll give a little teaser, right?

Like just some favorites at everybody's expensive.

Especially because they're like kind of down the line.

Yeah, and I know they won't cancel on me because they're like friends of mine, you know?

And they have scrupled.

So they're not like Colin from below deck where people could reach out to them and cancel them.

Colin?

You know his name?

It's Colin coming back to me.

This whole time he's been like unnamed Below Deck Ma'am.

I think it's Colin, but I actually think it might not be.

Okay, not you slipping.

He's a C, like Connor.

Okay, so I have booked only two people so far, but I just booked this trip two days ago.

And mostly because I spoke about him yesterday and I need to discuss like the matter at hand with him, Justin Sylvester.

Oh, okay.

Great.

Love.

And actually, I thought about booking Fibula, who now lives in New York.

Like, thanks.

That helps me a lot.

No, that's perfect.

I've also booked straight up with Stasse.

I'm feeling straight up.

I love that.

I also will, of course, be having Taylor Streker on.

She is also going to be in Los Angeles, which was like a huge impetus.

for Ben and I to take this trip.

Her and Taylor are also going for like a couple of weeks.

So yeah, I'm just like me and my LA friends, you know?

Love.

Booked studio time, booked the flights.

I got to get like all my affairs in order this week.

But let me tell you, like, I was watching Love is Blind last night.

I'm also having like a wife.

Everything in my new house is broken.

I'm watching Love is Blind, like

streaming on my, on my new Wi-Fi.

I'm watching like a blurry.

Like, I actually couldn't pick any of these people out of lineup.

I've watched the entire season blurry.

It has been fine for you.

Oh, my God.

I literally feel like that girl with a degenerative eye disease.

Like, I can barely, I'm just seeing shapes.

Love is buffering.

Love is buffering.

That's a funny way to watch it.

I've seen videos of people who, when a new season of Love is Blind come out, they watch the pods and they cover the TV.

They really try to like immerse themselves in the experience.

Now,

could never be me, will never be me.

Let me tell you why, because I love that actually.

Like, and I love the immersive experience of it all, but I'm like watching this show like regretfully.

Like, and I'm also watching it with like half an eye, right?

I'm just on my phone.

I'm doing literally a million other things besides actually watching it.

That's why I can't remember anybody's names.

That's why the first three couples, like, I can't tell you if they're going to make it.

I don't really know anything about them.

So I couldn't be that committed

to a show I literally hate but refuse to stop watching.

Yeah.

And that is getting worse.

Like, I don't know if they're still doing it now.

Maybe in the days of your, of Jimmy and Chelsea, maybe they were doing it.

Maybe.

But we'll talk about it.

I just feel like we've been chasing the high of season one of Love is Blind, like since it came out.

I agree.

But I think, what's your second best season?

The Jimmy and Chelsea one

is really up there because so many come to mind and like they were I most of the ones that come to mind like I hate.

Yeah, and then Love is Blind UK Season one Freddy.

Of course, we will always have Love is Blind UK Season 1 Freddy.

Freddie.

Put the season on his back.

So let's dive in because we do have a lot to do today and we like keep talking about Love is Blind.

So we'll just like do it in the fifth story.

Sounds good.

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Our first story, Taylor on Fallon.

Very exciting.

She brought her talk show Energy to the States after doing Graham Norton.

And she really gave it all to Fallon, like did every segment, answered all the questions.

He asked her.

She was her whole show.

He asked her like five rumor, about five rumors to like clear them up.

They were like obviously pre-approved rumors because I've never heard any of them.

However, no, they are they were like subjects that were floating around.

Of course, not like the ones.

No, I really don't care that Ed Sheeran found out about her engagement on Instagram.

Like, ask me how little I care about Ed Sheeran.

Are you still friends with Blake Lively?

How about that one?

I could think of a thousand other rumors before the five that Jimmy Fallon brought up, but I understand.

I understand.

No, listen, he's a company man.

So he asked her about, did Ed Sheeran really find out about her engagement on Instagram?

The answer was yes.

He asked about Selena Gomez's wedding.

Like, did you really say like you're getting, you made it to the altar before me?

She said, no, she didn't.

I didn't hear that.

That wasn't a rumor that I was.

I heard that she made a speech and she did make a speech.

And she talked about like the speech that she made.

She was asked about the Super Bowl.

Good question.

She explained that like.

And she said, we talked to Jay-Z and we said, like, when it's Travis is playing football, like, it's life or death.

Like, he's seeing his life out there.

Like, I'm not just going to be like working on my choreo while Travis is like doing.

He's like having an an existential crisis.

Yeah.

I just wish he then asked, so what was with the Easter eggs at New Heights?

Yes, of course.

What was with 47?

What was with sourdough?

What was with Shiny Bug Collection?

So people are already like pulling their hair out that like their feminist queen Taylor wrote like a whole album about her man, his dick, and how she just like wants to have babies and get married and like, you know, settle down.

She wanted to girl boss and now she wants to settle down.

And that's obviously like sending people like through a loop saying she's like trad wifing, even though it's just like the evolution of her life.

And I think them hearing her saying that she's not ever going to do like this big opportunity because of her man, like I think that they're not going to be okay.

Although, I don't like, I could see how that's someone's takeaway, right?

Like, your man is not letting you, but it's actually like a really lovely thing for her to do and say, like, she couldn't really ever do it while Travis is playing because she's so invested in his career.

As much as he is in hers, it's actually really sweet.

No, and she's invested like in the season, and she has to be like completely football agnostic if she's going to be doing the Super Bowl.

And so, what I heard her say with my two ears is that when Travis retires, it's an option.

Of course, of course.

Not that like I'm never doing it because my husband doesn't let me out of the house.

So if that's what you've heard, that's what some people are.

That's a little thing they like to call projection.

Projection.

Now, also, the most shocking thing about her appearance on Foul, and I couldn't put my finger on it at first, but she looked so different because she wasn't wearing a red lip, which like I hate to like look too much into, but like, what, what would be the reason?

She's always wearing like a very bright red lip.

Sometimes she goes like a little bit more coral, but she's wearing like a full-on nude.

She's always wearing a nude.

Yeah.

Like, and she never wears nude.

Here's a theory.

Take it for what you will.

You know, the blonde hair theory.

Like celebrities go blonde when they've had work done to distract from the fact that they've had work done.

And by the time they go dark again, you don't realize what's changed.

You think it's just their hair.

Yeah.

Now, on Graham Norton, she did look like a little bit like she had a tune-up.

A little nip and tuck, yeah.

And I think it was more evident there because she was wearing her classic glam.

Yeah.

Nothing had changed.

Yep.

And now for this, you think, oh, she looks different because she's not wearing red lip.

And by the time red lip comes out, you're used to the new face.

Now, I'm not saying that's what happened here, but that's just a,

like, that's a possibility.

It's a great theory.

I just want to say that kudos to you on that theory.

I wasn't expecting you to answer my question like so perfectly.

Well, it's working too because now we're like, oh, yeah, she does look different.

She looks amazing.

Like she looked like

the leg, the arm, the dress, but like like the tonage.

Yeah.

She's giving toned.

I mean, she's so tough.

You can't do the Aristotle and like not be in the best shape ever.

And she's, she's so strong.

Yeah, she looks like just strong and healthy.

And you know, like her and Travis just like do sprints in the backyard.

Yeah, that's really crazy.

But they also eat good.

And that's, I think, really, like, they, I mean, of course, like sourdough, but I, they're always at like Pargi restaurants.

They were at Chiprioti.

I heard a friend of mine was there.

I'm like, I was saying to somebody, like, she was like, oh, my sister was at Chipriotti downtown last night.

Taylor and Travis were there with her parents.

And like, my first gut instinct is like, so jealous.

Like, oh, I wish I was there.

I can't even feel that way anymore.

I don't leave my house.

Like, how can I expect to, was Taylor going to come over?

Like, I'm not going to see her.

She will come over.

Like, I can't feel jealous.

Like, I literally don't leave my house.

Yeah.

And even if you saw her at a restaurant, I think it would be like really confusing for you because what would you do?

Nothing.

No, what I actually know what I would do.

I'm glad you brought that up.

I would stare so hard just in the hopes of making eye contact and give like a little like a respectful smirk.

That's what I would do.

Okay.

You know what you say?

And then maybe, and then maybe she would make a respectful smirk as back just to be like nice because she's a nice girl.

And then she'd be like, oh, it's the girl from the toast.

I love that podcast.

I think that's how you do it.

Oh, right.

Oh, I forgot that she's a toaster.

100%.

She's 100% a toaster.

Yeah, even though she's like sending out PR packages, a meeting gap between the two.

Right, and I don't know how much she puts up with me.

I don't know.

I think she doesn't want us to know she's a toaster.

Yeah, but there's a lot of, well, either it's that she's a toaster, because there are a lot of like breadcrumbs on the album, on New Heights, a lot of things that she says that are just so toast-coated.

Not toast originals, but toast-coated.

So it's either that she doesn't want us to know she's a toaster, but she is, or like, we're just so simpatico with her.

Like, we're just living the same life.

Like, like, we would be friends.

Yeah, like, we say the same things, we talk the same way.

You're like, girl, boss, too close to the sun, sourdough, this, that.

You know, we're just like living parallel lives.

Did your girl boss too close to the sun?

Did you say something only a man could?

Yeah.

By the way, I've been listening to the album Unclean, best album ever.

That's funny.

No, seriously, like all like the cringy, like things that were bothering people, like gone.

I'm obsessed.

It's a life hack.

I need to try it for Breener.

Yes, you do.

Except Breener's raunchiness

doesn't bother me.

That's always been a part of the package.

Like, that's what I signed up for when I signed up for Yeah, eyes wide open.

Don't forget skin.

Who could?

A lot of people.

Yeah.

By the way, can I ask you a question?

Could you sing skin right now?

Like, do you know what it sounds like?

And he is on mine.

Okay, because I feel like we reference it a lot, and I tell you, I couldn't even sing the song.

Like, I don't even know it.

It's not like

a catchy song.

It's more like slam poetry, you know?

Underma, underma, underma, right?

Yeah.

She was like,

is it our annual playing of skin?

No, it's kind of like better.

It's better not knowing.

Yeah.

But skin was the original.

Stream Skin by Sabrina.

Also, a little more Taylor news was that apparently, like, when she was on Graham Norton's show, there was a moment that was cut out.

Have you seen this?

From Jodi Turner-Smith?

No.

So apparently she asked for like an insensitive question because Jodi Turner-Smith asked Taylor like an insensitive question on Graham Norton's show and like Graham shut it down and cut it out.

It's not that crazy, but they did cut it out.

Someone in the audience shared what happened.

Oh, I was going to say, how do we know?

They were talking, someone in the audience made a TikTok.

They were talking about the wedding.

And then Jodi was like, and what about babies?

And Taylor.

just i don't know if she assumed or she redirected was so smart she thought she was talking about like babies at the wedding she was like right she was like oh no it's gonna be 18 plus only

And then she was like, no, like about having, do you want to have babies?

And then Graham was like, this feels like an off-air conversation.

Wait, that's really fucking weird.

Like for another woman to ask.

I know.

Well, two things.

One, that was like before we heard wishlist.

So actually, maybe Taylor would have been happy to answer it and been like streaming.

We don't know how Taylor felt about it because Graham shut it down.

But then also, they're reporting that she sent a sweet message to Taylor after that moment.

She like wrote her a letter

on Instagram.

I don't want to give JTS like a pitch.

He probably already has one for like her thing getting cut out.

So Vanessa Lachey.

But like, it's not so crazy.

Like, I know it's unclear.

And we're not

like, are you living in this world?

We're not doing it.

We're certainly not doing it publicly on a TV show with a person that's like not our best friend.

And who's notoriously private?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Like it's a very personal question.

We're not doing it.

just so you know.

I'm gonna give Joda Turner-Smith the benefit of the doubt here and just assume she was really nervous.

Like, but like, yeah, maybe she got lost, she forgot about the camera, she thinks she's like talking to a friend who just got engaged, talking about her wedding.

Like, and and yeah, that next comes baby in the baby carriage.

Like, I understand, like, why her mind went there, it's not so crazy, but we're not doing it.

Is the understand why her mind went there, I don't know why her mouth went there.

Um,

like, seriously,

crazy, it's crazy.

crazy.

I just know she like wants to die, you know?

It's just like so awkward.

Yeah.

Um,

so that's just why I love TikTok because we never would have known that.

Yeah.

Are you ready for our next story?

Yeah.

A little more sports news, major sports news.

Madison Beer and Chargers quarterback Justin Herbert confirmed their Roman Swift, sideline PDA ahead of the Commanders game.

I saw the video.

I was supposed to be in the video.

Instead, you saw it.

And everyone's going to online and be like, you're lying.

I hate you, but I was supposed to be in the video.

Madison Beer took her relationship to the sidelines, which is where, like, you either are or you aren't.

Like, if you're not on the sidelines,

if you're like an actor or like a musician, it's like walking a red carpet.

Yeah, like you're not, if you're not on the carpet, like, you're not in the movie.

If you're not on the sideline, like, you're not in this man's life.

And she very much is.

He's kissing her on the mouth in front of the public.

They're very much together.

Like, I need them to last forever.

I

just love the trope of pop star and football player.

Obviously, Taylor and Travis.

Josh Allen and Haley Steinfeld, who's an actress, but also a pop star.

Sierra and Russell Wilson.

Like, this will never not be just like the cutest thing ever.

But also, just like football player, and they don't even have to be pop star, like Tom and Giselle.

Yeah, yeah, I guess just like Parchy.

Like celebrities.

Because I was watching the game last night, Travis's game His team lost

no you're kidding.

No, and it was like it was it was close and they lost to the Jaguars Jacksonville

And I feel like they're not like moving the needle the jaguars I never hear about them no me neither I feel like there are a lot of teams that are like

It's never about them Okay, like the Colts I feel like there are a lot of football teams.

Yeah that give like minor league but they're in the major league they're like not main characters like Browns I feel like well they're like main characters in terms of being like the loser.

Like, you know.

Yeah, okay, fine.

I have one, and people are not going to like this one.

But, like, you're telling me that the Carolina Panthers are not a minor league team.

I don't believe it.

There are so many random teams that are only there to support the big teams.

Like,

they're never going to win something.

Yeah, they're basically like AI generated at this point.

And it's crazy because I feel that way about the Atlanta Falcons, even though my only real connection to them is Craig Bierman.

No, even

a big town.

I always just think of the Colts, the Tennessee Titans.

Okay, the Tennessee Titans are a fake team.

The Arizona Cardinals.

I actually would argue most teams in the NFL are like supporting roles, aside from the big teams, which are obviously the Eagles, the Chiefs, the Giants, and the Jets, even though they both stink.

They're New York teams.

They're just big.

The 49ers, the Rams.

The rest are just kind of giving irrelevant.

Yeah, the Cowboys are very relevant, even though they're not like good all the time.

Yes, agreed.

What about like the Broncos?

They're like mid-level.

They're mid.

They're mid.

They have Joe

Burrow?

Joe Burrow?

No.

No.

He plays for a different Orange team.

Just give me a second.

It'll come to me.

What team does he play on?

Bengals.

Orange.

Bengals.

By the way, with the exception of Joe Burrow, so supportive.

We're all like.

Yeah, but they did make it to the Super Bowl.

So they were like a major supporting actor.

that's another like couple olivia tick tocker and joe burrow so cute yeah olivia culpo and christian mccaffrey of course and yeah you could either be like a main character in the nfl by being really good and winning like the kansas city chiefs or by being from like a major city and like you're a staple to the country because the kansas city chiefs like otherwise might have fallen into this trope of randoms

No, because like Patrick.

No, because he's amazing.

Right, right, right, right.

Like they're there for a while.

Having a celebrity connection, if I was like a team owner, I would have more like cocktail mixer soires with like famous people.

You know what I mean?

I think it's really good for team morale, team PR, and overall team success.

Well, that's what I was thinking about Trevor Lawrence last night.

Cause he's really handsome.

Like

he just has a face like a supermodel, but they caught him picking his nose on the camera.

It was so wrong.

He was like sitting on the sidelines watching the game.

That's so wrong.

Aggressively as a quarterback, change a camera.

Like, he's allowed to pick up.

I just want to say it's definitely on Twitter.

I don't even know if it was a remarkable moment because I imagine it happens a lot.

I just happen to be watching, and I, like, as an empath.

No, no, when I search Trevor Lawrence, the first thing that comes up is Trevor Lawrence rushing, Trevor Lawrence knows, Trevor Lawrence picking nose.

Spirit back.

This is something that he does often.

Maybe he has, you know, sinus.

No, this is true of acceptance.

Okay.

Oh, oh, my God.

He's really cute.

Wait.

I just want to say,

there's something really crazy about somebody who picks their nose with their thumb.

He has a.

What the fuck?

I think he's got a big nostril.

Pick him with a thumb?

No, that's weird.

Like, everybody...

Index hanger.

Everyone knows that.

I don't know.

I don't go.

I think I'm a thumb

when I have to pick my nose.

Oh no.

What happened?

Verizon called me.

I missed the call.

I mean, I told you my Wi-Fi sucks.

I seriously can't wait.

Of course, they call me.

I work, like, seriously, I'm offline for one hour.

I know.

That happened to me yesterday.

I was waiting on two calls and they both came through during the toast, but don't worry.

I declined them and ruined my life for you guys.

For the sake of the podcast.

Yeah.

Anyway, so I was thinking about Joe Burrow.

No, I wasn't.

I was singing about Trevor Lawrence.

And I don't know if he has a girlfriend, but he needs a lady love.

And it's like, Jackie, not only does he have a girlfriend, it's like his OG girlfriend from high school.

They're married and they just had a baby.

Okay, take back what I said.

It's like super cute.

And I just want to like quickly rewind to like you saying that he's insanely handsome.

I actually like don't agree.

What do you mean?

He has a face like a supermodel.

Like he looks like

he's interesting looking.

Okay, I agree.

He's very abstract.

Like he definitely looks like a new Greek god, like a like a

yeah.

Like I could see him if it didn't work out for him in football and he like stayed in his hometown like working at a pharmacy or something like him getting scouted at the pharmacy to like do fashion weeks.

Yeah, but fashion.

He's very interesting.

Yeah.

High fashion.

He's got a very chiseled, structured face.

He's not, yeah, he's not like the heartthrob, the obvious.

He's not like Brad Pitt.

No, but he looks like a supermodel.

Yeah.

That's what I meant.

Fashion, like, he's got the look, the cheekbones, the eyes.

That jersey.

And I think this is a new team for him.

That color was really bringing out his eyes on the jersey.

This is what I don't understand about football.

And this is like what happened with Tim Tebow.

It's like Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawrence.

Like, I hear so much about them, these big

quarterbacks.

Like they never win.

Like we're never talking about them.

So why are they so popular?

They can't be that good.

I know, but I guess it's like more than a quarterback.

But actually, it's not because Tom Brady went to a random team and won the Super Bowl in one year.

In one day, yeah.

So it's like you could just be a good quarterback and take the team all the way.

Right.

So like they get these huge contracts.

We're like always talking about them, but seriously, why?

I don't know.

Like they do a lot, but I guess it's like because they're also competing against another amazing quarterback and someone has to win and someone has to lose.

I guess, but I understand what you're saying.

Just feels like everyone's greatest.

Who's not like this legacy, and no one talks about him, and like he's always winning.

Yeah, but it's like if you just traded him for Trevor Lawrence, not saying that you should brock on, but um, then you broke the fuck on, right?

But the 49ers are doing well, yeah.

Are you ready for our next story?

What number?

Three,

oh, yeah, are you sure it's three?

Yeah, I am.

The Taylor one took a while.

No, Taylor, football, and number three.

No.

I'm telling you.

I'm looking at it.

I'm sorry.

I could cut one.

No, no, no, no.

I just, it's funny because, like, before I felt like we were moving so fast, and now I'm like, we're only on three, whatever.

Plus TV recap, plus deer toasters.

Right.

But Instagram is launching its own awards for creators called Rings.

Rings.

Movies have the Oscars, TV has the Emmys, music has the Grammys, so why can't one of the world's largest social platforms get into the awards game?

Instagram is launching Instagram Rings, a new program meant to celebrate the creativity of its more than 3 billion monthly active users.

But of those 3 billion, only 25 will receive rings, with the honorees getting both a physical ring as well as unique digital golden ring for their Instagram profiling stories.

That's cool.

That is very meta.

Like, here's my ring.

Ring.

Very meta.

Owned by meta.

Eva Chen said, We felt it was time to have an award that recognizes people who take these creative chances on our platform.

I forgot that she still has a job at Instagram.

Yeah, these people are cultural catalysts and they're sparking conversations.

And by doing that, they encourage people to express themselves as well.

So I just, I actually think this is a cool idea.

I just hope it doesn't become one of those things where it's like, okay, we're giving it to Kim Kardashian.

Like, okay, you know what I mean?

Like, it should be people who actually like create.

Do you know what I mean?

Yes.

It's also going to be hard for them to really differentiate between like someone who is Instagram, like creating on Instagram purposefully as opposed to like someone who just like trickled over from TikTok.

Right.

I don't think it's for celebrities.

Like it's really for people who create within Instagram.

And I think that will also narrow the people that you would think it would be.

I don't even know who would.

Right.

I feel like it's like really like storytellers.

I don't even know.

I don't think that the 25 people are going to be like 25 people I follow.

No, it's going to be that guy, Zach King.

You know, he does those like magic videos that get like 100 million views.

Right.

I don't.

Which by the way, he deserves it.

Yeah.

I just, it's not going to be like Alex Earl.

Give it to Alex Earl.

You know, give everything to Alex Earl.

Give everything to Alex Earl, but like she's not an inch.

She's an influencer, but like not because of Instagram.

Right.

She doesn't even post all of her stuff.

And someone only gets to follow her on Instagram.

Like, she doesn't post enough.

Oh, Jackie's mad.

Like, work harder, do better, get yourself a ring.

What about the reels?

Reels people are real people.

We are.

We want more than a reel every three days.

No, I know what you mean.

Like,

Instagram.

There are people who are still in the world.

Honestly, back in the day,

you could have gotten a ring.

1,000%.

Actually, I guess even today you could get a ring.

Yeah.

Give me one.

Like, actually, I think Lish is an Instagram creator, right?

Yes.

She posts those videos videos to TikTok.

Yes.

But they feel Instagram first.

There is nobody who creates content for a living that doesn't post the same piece of content to multiple platforms.

Me.

I deserve a ring.

I'm the only one who's on.

You don't post on anything else.

You don't post on Snapchat.

You don't post on TikTok.

I only post on YouTube.

You don't post on Facebook?

I only post on Instagram.

What about Facebook?

No.

What about

nothing?

Podcast.

YouTube.

Oh.

Oh, yeah.

Spotify.

Yeah.

But as far as social media platforms, really, just Instagram.

I think I just, I don't think this is my year.

She's eligible for a ring.

Not this year.

Maybe next year.

I think I have to work a little harder, but I do think I'm the elk of a ringer

because I'm dedicated to the platform.

You are.

You're loyal.

So it'll be curious to see who gets them.

I do feel like it's going to be a bunch of people we don't know, but I like this.

More awards for influencers.

Agreed.

Agreed.

More opening up the traditional award space, like the Golden Golden Globes for the podcasting.

Like more of that.

More of it.

I love it.

Agreed.

Love that.

I think the word we're looking for is more inclusion.

That's it.

Are you ready for our fourth story?

Jennifer Lopez and Ben Affleck post on the red carpet.

Jennifer Lopez.

Well, I was like, gonna call her Jen.

That's just crazy.

Like, her name is J-Lo.

She's J-Lo, but the headline didn't say Jennifer.

Jim J,

last name, Lo.

The headline said Jennifer and Ben Affleck post on the red carpet together during a surprise reunion at Kiss of the Spider Woman premiere in New York City.

So newly divorced Ben and Jen are back together for the red carpet, not in a romantic way.

I guess he like worked on the movie.

He was supposed to be in the video.

Yeah, so this is like such a weird thing.

And she went on like one of those morning shows today or GMA or whatever.

And the person interviewing her was like.

very bluntly asking like your ex divorced you're on the carpet and she like looks at her publicist like it's she's being asked the craziest question it's like such a normal question But she does say like the movie would not have gotten made without him.

They have a very good relationship and she's really happy he was there, which I was shocked to hear all of.

Yeah.

Also, when you walk on the red carpet with someone and do something so publicly, like it's fair game to then ask a question about it.

Of course.

I don't know why she was acting so surprised.

I do want to say also, she's always looked like insane for her age, but I feel like she's taken a huge break, right?

There was like a couple of months where J-Lo could not get arrested.

Like seriously, everyone was hating everything she did.

I feel like we haven't seen her for like a year, which was good, a really good strategic move for her.

She also got a new face.

She looks insane.

Yeah.

In a good way.

The movie is a musical.

She's always like doing these like visual movie musical.

Her last like four movies, she makes fake movies.

Whatever the pee-pee-poo-poo version of movies is, like, that's what J-Lo's does.

And what is Kiss of the Spider Woman?

I'm like scared.

Why are you asking me that?

I don't know.

Like, is it, is it like actually spidey?

I have no idea.

All of her movies are like a movie.

Or is it like, you know, a woman who is a spider?

It's like she makes movies now.

Like, what's like a recent J-Lo movie that you've actually seen?

Hustlers.

Oh, okay.

That's a great example.

Besides that,

Kiss of the Sider Woman.

A political prisoner named Valentin shares a cell with a man named Melina.

They form an unlikely bond as Melina recounts a Hollywood musical plot.

Wait, not the political prisoner being in a musical.

Yeah.

Sharing a cell.

with a man.

I feel like a modern lamez.

Sharing a cell with a man?

I think they're both men.

Oh.

That?

You're right.

I assumed it was a woman because

J-Lo's a woman.

Who the fuck is she?

Maybe she's a warden.

Wait, he recounts the plot of a Hollywood musical starring his favorite silver screen diva, Ingrid Luna.

I'm going to go ahead and say that J-Lo is Ingrid Luna, a.k.a.

Aurora, a.k.a.

the Spider-Woman.

So, no, this is not in the Spideyverse, not made by Marvel.

That's too bad.

Unfortunately, I don't think I'll be seeing the film, which is just hard.

You know, I just have a lot going on, but maybe.

Yeah.

But that's what it's about, if you're interested.

Big if.

Produced by Ben Avlick and Matt Damon's Artist Equity Production Company.

Right.

Right, right, right.

That's what they do.

And that's what they did.

Things they did.

I'm surprised they would take on this project.

It was obviously something they agreed to while they were still married.

They were stigmatized at the time.

Yeah.

Because one thing about Jaylo, like, she does not make good movies anymore.

No, uh,

yeah.

Well, and there was a time where, like, every movie, she was like the Kate Hudson of rom-coms made in Manhattan.

Like, she could not make a bad movie.

Have you ever seen her movie Enough?

No,

it's chilling.

It's kind of like a very elevated lifetime original movie where she is this like single mom.

Well, she's not a single mom at first.

She has a really abusive husband and her and her daughter just like spend the whole movie running from him.

And every time they get set up in like a new home in a new town with a new wig, he shows up.

And it is the scariest movie.

It's amazing.

They play it on like e-movies we love all the time.

Oh, interesting.

Sounds like Safe Harbor with Jillian Huff.

A Safe Haven.

Yeah.

Not Safe Harbor.

Yes, I never saw that one, but yeah, it's just like that.

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Our fifth and final story leading into TV recap, Love is Blind.

Casey is now setting the record straight on her messy breakup from Patrick.

So she gave an interview to People Magazine where they asked really all the important questions.

She's also going to be on vial files, as is Patrick, talking about their relationship.

And she's explaining like how she felt and why she went about things the way that she did.

It's a written interview.

So I actually feel like she gave as good of answers as she could.

And we're definitely getting like more just like full sentences from her as opposed to, I can't.

I'm sorry.

I love you.

To be clear.

Like we all know what happened, right?

Like she doesn't think we're stupid.

Yeah.

Well, I think what she's trying to say is that.

And this is actually something that you said on your Instagram stories last night, but she said when she like met him, she said this, I just remember feeling like this is a stranger in my arms right now.

You do, unfortunately, you kind of picture, you try not to, but picture maybe who this person's going to be.

And then I saw him and I was like, oh, not like his looks or anything, just feeling him.

I was like, oh, this is a stranger.

I don't actually know this person.

And you have to like go sleep in a bed with them.

Yeah.

And they were like, why did you feel that way?

She was like, just the fact that it is a stranger.

I started to crash out.

I started to realize this is a serious thing we're about to do.

This is for marriage.

This isn't for like, oh, am I going to date him?

We're just going to go on dates after this.

This was like, no, we're going to take this to to the altar.

And after that moment, I just couldn't do that.

So I think what she thought he was going to look like and what he did look like, of course, like didn't match up in her head and were a little bit disappointing for her because she did say like the attraction can't grow.

And she realized afterwards that looks do matter to her and that does matter to her.

But I think the fact that it, she's saying like two things.

It's not just that he was like.

not attractive to her, but that like, given that it wasn't what she expected, she felt like she didn't know him.

Great.

Okay.

Here's what I, and I'm not saying I don't believe her, but like, I watched, and here's what I think happened.

She

got engaged, and she was not pleased with his looks.

Obviously, you can't, like, just say that.

It's so rude.

You look so shallow at the engagement.

Even afterwards, like, you look so shallow.

Like, there's really no good way.

It happens a lot with people who they end up with people they're not attracted to, and it doesn't grow, it doesn't get better.

And, like, it's just awkward.

It always is.

And so, I think the idea of like going and having to like sleep in in a bed with him and fake, you know,

this relationship was too much for her.

I think it, like, she didn't want to do it, but she couldn't outright come out and say that she was quitting because of the looks.

So she like made up this, like, you know, she was, you know,

having crisis, right?

But the whole time is like kissing and hugging him and kissing and jumping and straddling him just so nobody could say she wasn't like not into his looks because look, she's straddling him.

And she goes to close the door and then she jumps back into his arms and wraps her legs around him.

Like it felt so calculated.

she was clearly not into his looks and then put together this charade to make it seem like it had nothing to do with his looks.

Agreed.

Two things.

This is also what she said.

Oh, and she also didn't effectively break up with him.

Right.

This is what she had to say about that moment.

She said, when they were talking and they broke up, they said, did you have intentions of ending things for good?

She said, no, I didn't want to end things at that point.

When I saw him, he was the only person in that whole room that I felt like I really knew.

So that's why I felt so comforted.

Everybody's like, why were you kissing him?

I was like, because I felt comfort in his arms.

It's just a crazy experience.

And then I was like, for a moment, I'm like, am I making a mistake?

Should we stay?

But at that point, I thought the only way we're ever going to make this really work is if we come back to get to Denver and date slowly at our own pace, not.

this rush get to the altar in a month sort of thing.

And she does recognize how when she like, she said she was trying to protect his feelings and his insecurities and it came off weird.

It came off wrong.

Like she was gaslighting and that's her biggest regret.

I guess because she didn't want to say the thing,

she really like just was confusing because she was trying to protect him.

There is no way, there is no good way to handle this.

Like this experiment is like fucking ruthless.

However,

it's also just a crazy thing to sign up for.

However, every season there is a couple where someone is not pleased with someone else's looks.

Not saying that you should fake it,

but like one, you should give it a chance.

Like you should give this process a chance.

If you're signing up for it, it's possible that the person's not your typical type, but you love them.

You have this connection.

So like try to see it through.

Don't just like write them off because of their looks, but also like, I don't know, let them down a little more naturally.

Yeah.

But I guess that's me saying like, yeah, go to Baja and fake it and then break up with them and pretend like it was about other stuff when the entire time you weren't attracted.

But like, I don't know.

Yeah.

When also it would make you look better, but like that's fake then too.

At least she was being real.

So I don't know.

So there are like a couple of couples that are having, I feel like every season there's like one couple that has like the attraction issue but there's multiple right like joe has made what's his name joe joe yeah joe has made a lot of comments about madison's look like i actually feel so bad for her i stopped feeling bad for her though when she got back from the pool party and like handled that situation so unbelievably poorly like he was clearly deeply unwell and she's trying to have like a real substantial conversation with a person who's crazy i don't know if he was on drugs or he was literally blackout drug i thought he was about to throw up in the bed like well first why she's i agree and at first i'm like oh my god this man, he was so awful at the party.

I'm like, I feel so bad for her.

But to come in, and I'm so against waking someone up, period.

But to wake someone up out of their blackout stupor with cameras and like, you're all like in your baby, like and looking to have like a real clear, concise conversation.

Why are you waking him up?

Like, let him sleep it off, first of all.

And then he wakes up and he's very disoriented to the point where he, yeah, he seems like unwell on drugs.

And she's like, you just asked me the same question four times.

And then later in the bathroom.

She's like scaring me.

In the bathroom, she's like and i'm like yeah he asked four times

and then in the bathroom she's like you asked me the same question seven times i'm like wait i thought you said four and now i'm like wait was it actually just two

So I have stopped feeling bad for her because she's really like not helping herself and she's making the situation worse.

And she's so insecure that it like she's kind of like when they were in the hot tub, even the first night when she was like, what did you think when you saw me?

Did it look like what she looked like?

And I just want to say, even though people who are unattractive, don't ask that question.

No, if you have to ask those questions, like you're one, either being insecure or you feel like something is off and it's just, it like just plunges you guys even further deeper.

Like when someone constantly has to be like, no, you're the greatest.

Now you're the prettiest.

Like nobody.

And then she's on the boat being like, I feel like I'm always telling you I love you first.

Okay, so if that's the case.

A very needy, insecure energy, which is like not attractive.

And it's unfortunate if she feels that way and if she feels like she's not getting enough from him that she needs to pull it out of him.

But if that's what he's giving, that's because that's all he wants to give.

Now, there is a little sprinkle of Amber and Barnett in here.

One of my favorite things about that first season and the high I've been chasing ever since was when they got really into like the financials.

Because, you know, Barnett was this really sort of like financially stable guy.

He owned his own house.

He had a great job.

He was an engineer.

He didn't have any debt.

And in comes Amber, who, you know, was in the army.

They paid for college.

She left the army.

She was left with all this debt.

She had insane.

She had that ultra credit card that had like crazy debt on it.

And that was my favorite.

Like, cause that's real life, right?

And it's so uncomfortable.

And I like live for those types of conversations.

And we're having a little bit, I feel like we're going to get more of that with Sparkle Megan and Jordan because Sparkle Megan has made it her

mission to like let everyone know she's rich.

Cool.

Congrats.

And he is like a very proud, poor person.

And he's always like talking about how he's poor.

I'm not saying I'm not like saying he's poor.

He says he's poor like all the time.

No, but it's not like Amber and Barnett, where it's like he's taking on debt and he's trying to live at a level that he's not at.

Like he is proud.

I think he's like cheap, proud uh but i mean more so like we're having these really like some huge disparities in financial like socioeconomic background yeah and i just think it makes for such interesting things like he's obsessed with his kia but i think also what's making it more contentious is that he's kind of like being a dick to her about her

even like he was like the rudest about the nickname sparkle magnet and it's like i could be rude about sparkle magnet and i'm not gonna marry her like i can say that's a bad nickname but for him to like always that's like something that she who she is and what she's she's proud of and she loves sparkles and she loves obviously like glitz and like and the whole time

he's like trying to guess what kind of car she drives so he could like i don't know taunt her about it like it's one thing to be the way that you are and like proud but not judgmental and he just seems like a little judgmental and that's where it's gonna get sticky even when he turned off her sink when she was brushing her teeth he's like very like eco-conscious

There's just two different types of people in this world.

Like people who turn off the sink when they brush their teeth and people who don't.

And I don't think people from different groups can marry one another, honestly.

Yeah, that was, that was a lot.

Even though having said that, like, I kind of like them as a couple, and I don't think that they're the worst off.

I think they have a chance.

And I think she was right to choose him over Mike.

Absolutely.

There's something extremely sinister about that Mike character.

Agreed.

And I've seen like the internet saying like he's a known scammer in Denver and like he probably got financially.

Yeah.

And I think he got like, you know, rich vibes from Megan and he was going to like scam.

Oh my God, a con man.

So I think she was right to choose Jordan.

I think it was like a case of opposites attract attract where like they could really be

compatible.

And he just, everything with him was just like lighter than with Mike.

Like even when he's like a little bit weird and freaky, but he is a really nice guy.

Yeah, like sweet.

Even when she was expressing doubts, like he approached it, not making her feel bad, like making her feel bad.

Mike is so crazy about that.

And like the way that someone makes you feel is like very important.

Like I felt really good that she should give love a chance.

And I'm glad that she chose him.

However, what she couldn't see in the pods is the way that he acts when he's with his friends, which was the biggest ick of all time.

I don't know if it's more so the way he acts with his friends or the way he acts when he drinks.

I think both.

He was so immature.

And I think that's what Mike was sort of pointing to when I was like, when he was trying to talk about it.

I'm sorry.

Mike was pissing me off.

No, when he was trying to talk shit about Jordan, but didn't say anything.

So I'm like, what's wrong with Jordan?

Like, he has tattoos.

Like, what's right?

What was he trying to say?

I feel like in the pods, when they were living with the guys, like, Jordan had that immature energy factor and he was like the way that he was with the boys all the time the way that he was at the mixer and so he's like Mike is like that's your guy okay um he doesn't know that like

people can grow out of that in the pods he was like really lovely and warm and like he obviously has like two different sides to him but Mike only saw the boy side and yeah that side of him is not cute

Yeah, even though when she expressed like you're being weird and annoying, he was like immediately apologetic.

And I don't know, I don't hate Jordan so much.

I actually like them as a couple.

I think they have a chance.

I think they're like

the ship is going down.

Okay, well, the ship has already went down with Madison and Joe.

Like, they are so not getting married.

She's in a wedding dress in the previews.

She makes it to the wants to be on TV.

No, I'm sorry.

This is a couple that needed to break up like tomorrow.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Um, and then we have Annie and

Nick, who are weirdly like the best couple.

Yeah, even though, like, I

he's

even though, you know, yeah,

even though,

like, when he was telling

Sparkle Mega that he loves her Cartier, oh, yeah, well, he is a luxury watch dealer, that is his job is to know those things.

Yes, that's right.

I did forget about that.

Thank you.

Yeah.

Um,

yeah, no, they actually work, but they have a long road ahead of them because he told two girls that he loved them and he didn't tell that to Annie.

And when they go to the bar, you know, whenever they meet the rest of the cast, like that's going to come out, and he should have told her sooner.

Yeah, she's really sweet, she's a little nutty, like hair brain energy, but she's really sweet.

Yeah, in the pods, she like wasn't my favorite, but she got serious.

She like serious.

She was a sleeper, too.

I didn't like introduce her until like the third or fourth episode.

She wised up towards the end.

There was a lot of like sexual talk

in the pods this season.

I don't know if that's like a Netflix trying something new thing or a Denver being weird thing.

Yeah, there was a lot of sexual talk.

When Casey Casey was like talking about the state of her pubic hair

and what she could do with that pubic hair,

I would say that was like a low point for television.

Yes.

However, I really appreciate it.

And I know it's like gross and invasive, but like I do need to know if the people are having sex on the honeymoons.

And sometimes previous seasons, like they haven't brought it up or some people are

tight-lipped about it.

I'm not referring to it.

I'm just referring to pod sex.

Yes, no, no, I know, but, but it's the overall like theme of the season.

There's a little bit more openness with the sex.

And I really appreciated it as a a mixer.

They all sat down and said who's having sex and who's not.

And they all are except for Edmund and Calambria, which I found surprising.

Yeah.

Well, like I found surprising, you know, that Joe made so many comments about Madison, but he was more than happy to have sex with her.

Oh, yeah.

He was all over her.

That's how you stop him from getting his D wet.

I wasn't, what's her name?

Fucking name, Sparkle.

was like extremely horny.

Like when they got to the Mexico, they like sat in the room and she was like making a million comments about like her tushi and his penis.

So I wasn't surprised that they had sex.

I was surprised that Madison and Joe had sex.

I also was surprised that Annie and Nick had sex just because they don't seem so like sexually compatible.

And again, like he feels, you know,

what he feels.

I feel like I remember her talking a lot about sex in the pods with Brendan.

I feel like she's pretty sexual.

Yeah, yeah.

I was surprised that Allie and Anton, not that I know anything about them because I wasn't watching the first time.

But I'm surprised she likes him so much.

And so, and then she's on her period.

I'd be annoyed if someone should.

Okay, not only did they bring up her period, but a different couple.

Who was it?

It was a Calabria and Edmund.

When she like spilled the beans that her friend

hit the floor.

And she goes on to talk about like her own period and how she gets the crane.

This show is insane.

This show is insane.

And this particular season is making me realize like how crazy the concept is.

I feel like we've kind of gotten used to like, yeah, you know, you get engaged with somebody you've never met.

But it's kind of like putting on blast how fucking crazy the concept is.

Yeah.

So I don't know if any of them.

Calamia was wrong for that.

She was extremely wrong for bringing up Allie's period.

I guess she thought it might not make it to air.

There's a camera right in front of you.

Like, you know.

I don't know if any of these couples will actually get married.

It does feel like we could have a season on our hands where there are no marriages, which I don't know if we've had

yet.

There have been seasons where people got

anyone from Chicago get married

like the Nick and Danielle season and then Jared and Ayana, they both got married and they both got divorced.

So we ended up what city was that?

Was that not Chicago?

Oh, was it?

It might have been.

They were

oh my god, what season were they?

Maybe they were.

Oh, season two.

Yeah, Danielle and Nick.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Okay, so I don't know if there's been a season where absolutely nobody has gotten even, like, said yes.

Yeah, this season is like seriously a sinking ship.

Everyone is hopping off board.

Like, and there are

so many scenes that were like just seriously, just the craziest thing to watch.

Like, of course, Casey and Patrick.

Of course, Casey and Patrick.

Madison and Joe in the drunk post-nap.

Yeah.

Calambria and Edmund fighting over about not having sex and he's crying.

Okay, wait.

Also, Calambria and Edmund's conversation over breakfast about how, like, if they were at a club and a man puts his hand, she like wanted him to fight and he was like, no, I'm like, not a violent person.

That was like genuinely uncomfortable.

Them like having a real argument about a hypothetical situation.

Like.

I thought they were the strongest.

And then actually that conversation highlighted how genuinely different they are.

So who do you think is the strongest?

It's usually so clear and it's not.

Anne, Annie, and

Watchboy.

Yeah.

Agreed.

Which is not like a ringing endorsement for the strength of these couples.

No.

And then Anton and Allie.

Do you see the previews?

Like where it's like...

Oh, Anton and Allie.

Yeah, they're like moving in silence.

No, but like in the previews for the next few episodes, like she's kind of a slob and he's like yelling at her.

Okay, well, I just want to say like she's allowed to be a slob.

Do you know what I mean?

I do know what you mean.

Do you know?

Don't make me say it.

it like she's loud i do know what you mean she happens to be like she's obviously better looking than him but she also happens to be like insanely gorgeous i'm sorry like insanely gorgeous girls like they could just get away with more stuff especially when their partner's not like you know like the hottest man alive yeah i think that's fair to say

so i'll leave it at that so she'll just leave her mess right there Let's dive into Dear Toasters, our weekly advice segment, if that's okay with you.

So every Tuesday, Jackie and I, you know, like to reach out to our community and do a little segment we call Dear Toasters, which is weekly advice.

You can write to us at deartoasters at gmail.com, or you can head over to our brand new relaunched website, thetoastpodcast.com.

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Hey, Spurlies.

I've been talking to this guy for a couple of months.

He plays professional baseball and is currently in season.

His schedule is really nuts, which I understand.

However, he only asked me to hang out at like 10 p.m.

E single time, like clockwork, 10 p.m.

Do I I accept that he wants me to just be his booty call or do I just blame it on his crazy work schedule?

I know for a fact that he's single because that was my first fear, but he's otherwise really attentive, thoughtful.

He seems very interested in me and my life.

I actually like him.

So I've expressed that it'd be nice, it'd be nice to see him during the day, but that hasn't happened yet.

Disclaimer, we have not had sex, but what do I do?

Is he just not that into me?

Or am I thinking too much about this for how new it is?

So I just feel like it's important.

There are moments in life.

where it's important to be like honest and real with oneself.

And important facts here.

He only asked you to hang out at 10 p.m and he's a professional athlete like i feel like there's really like not much more that i personally need to know here just to let you know like confidently like you are just a booty call to this guy and i'm sorry but he's not even getting that much booty she's saying right and he's sticking around yeah and like he's busy everyone's busy like you have to he has to eat dinner like you know why couldn't he do it with you If you want to see this through until the end of baseball season, I believe is almost over because I know when it gets cold, it's almost over.

So if you want to see this through and like come

November, um, see if you guys have a debate.

Yeah, by all means, waste your own time.

I feel pretty confident in giving you advice, letting you know, like, you're this guy's booty call, which like is fun.

If you're young and you're like a professional athlete's booty call, have fun, but just don't expect too much.

I'm, I'm really, I'm not feeling like he's like that serious about it.

Yeah, I agree, but sometimes, you know, you stick around long enough and you're the last girl standing.

He's like, hell.

A thousand percent.

He's like ready to get married.

He's like, well, this girl's been around for a while and she's nice.

Yeah, so you could try that route like if you really like him and that's what you want for yourself and like but it doesn't seem like

that's the more likely outcome you know yeah that would be the exception

I don't know how old you are.

So like, I don't know if you're just like at a stage where like you're having with the timetable.

Right.

Like if you're in like a sort of like a rush, like you want to settle down and get married, like I really wouldn't waste your time here.

It very rarely works out with professional athletes.

And like what it does, like you got to wait like eight years, you know?

And I just want to say of all the athletes to be married to, baseball is by far the worst.

They play so many games.

The season is so long.

If you are looking for an athlete to settle down with, I would recommend football because there's like 11 games.

I know, but like.

And it's once a week.

Baseball players play like three to four games a week.

Same with basketball.

Yeah.

I don't know if she just like has her pick of

any star athlete.

I just feel like messing around with an athlete is like a fun thing you can tell your grandchildren about one day.

Of course, like some girls end up marrying professional athletes and it works out nicely, but

the odds are not in your favor no um but if you're having fun then you like but i i don't know it's just

i just fear you're looking for like something deep here and there's really like i feel like there's nothing and you're probably like giving your best to him every single time like just like cheaper and like cute and whatever and it's like go to sleep like catch up on your sleep

Start with a new season of Love is Blind.

Like it's just kind of, it sounds exhausting.

Staying up till 10 to like leave the house.

Oh my God, I can never.

Yeah.

And then like not a long night's sleep.

But I guess if you're not having sex with him, like

so what are you doing at 10 o'clock?

Maybe, yeah, maybe like, you know, having a drink, flirting, watch a movie.

Like there are things you could do.

Making out.

And by the way, you should just tiresome.

Have sex with him.

No, but like that, no, if she want.

But also, if you don't have sex with him, like he will either like for be forced to like get more serious about you to like get, you know, the ball moving in that sense, or he'll be like, okay, listen, I just wanted sex.

Goodbye.

Barking up the wrong time.

I actually think don't have sex with him because either way,

you'll get clarity whether it's the thing.

You're at the tail end of baseball season.

Just wait.

See if anything else is going to be.

Honestly, that really just made me tired.

10 o'clock.

All right, next up.

Hey, girlies, I recently listened to an episode of The Toast where Margo talked about a story wearing Jackie's favorite pair of pants without her knowing, staining them, and then throwing them away to avoid her sister's wrath.

Well, I just heard it in Ed.

Have you ever heard of that story?

Oh, what?

You must have talked about maybe with me?

What pants?

If you're looking for your favorite pair of pants, what are my favorite pair of pants?

It must have been like from high school.

Okay.

So, this girl, I just started nannying and I used the family's kitchen for the first time yesterday.

The stove was so much more powerful than I anticipated.

And in a flash, one of the oven mitts briefly caught on fire.

After blowing it out, there was a medium-sized hole in the mitt.

The mom was able to come, was about to come back.

I was in a haste of desperation.

I threw the mitt into my bag and I brought it home.

I shouldn't have done that, but now I don't know what to do.

Where do I go from here?

I feel like this is actually like an amazing opportunity for you to

just like come out looking really an oven mitt.

Like she's not going to charge you for it.

It's not like a prize.

Family heirloom probably doesn't give a fuck.

But if you're like open and honest and you're like, hey,

I use a kitchen, which you're absolutely allowed to do.

You were doing nothing wrong.

And I burn the oven mitt, like I can replace it for you.

She'll be like, oh, who cares?

Don't worry about it.

It's not a big deal.

And you'll come off like looking really honest.

If she has like a camera and she sees you like putting an oven mitt in your purse, like that's not an amazing look.

No, it's a weird look.

Cause it's not even like a bad look.

Like you stole an oven mitt that's burnt.

It just looks weird.

Bring it back and then tell her like the next day that it happened.

100%.

It's really not a big deal.

It's not a big deal at all.

And you'll end up looking like a hero.

Like things happen all the time.

Thank God you didn't burn, you know, a vase that her grandmother gave her.

Yeah.

An oven mint is like meant to be burned.

Like that's why you put them on.

Oven mitts are disposable.

You get new ones every few years.

Yeah.

And if it is like able to get a hole in it, it's probably not the top quality.

Oh, yeah.

They're supposed to be

flame resistant.

Like, yeah, they're supposed to be able to withstand high temperatures.

I guess I've never put one in the flame, but

it's fine.

Just be honest.

Yeah, just be honest.

You made the situation worse by stealing, not to like give you a piss.

That was like kind of a weird thing that you did.

I understand, though.

Like, you get so like feclamped that you don't know what to do.

Yeah.

All right, third and final.

Hey, girlies.

I've recently found myself in a nightmare situation and I need your help.

I've been dating my boyfriend who's 28 for four years.

I'm expecting a ring within the next month.

We get along perfectly and I've never been more in love.

However, I had a random gut feeling to go through his laptop this past weekend.

He was not texting or FaceTiming any other girls.

However, upon checking his YouTube, I started to grow concerned.

He has subscribed to James Charles, Jeffree Star, and Alicia Marie.

There is a red line of all their videos, meaning like he's in the middle of watching them.

And he comments at least once a week on each, usually along the lines of a down or

blank is the one YouTuber I will always defend.

He does not have any younger siblings.

His YouTube account only belongs to him.

Do I let this go?

Do I confront it?

Is this an ick or a cause for pause?

You have to confront him.

Don't make me say it.

Your boyfriend's gay.

Like, your boyfriend is gay.

I would say if your boyfriend has uttered the words, James Charles, ate down,

it's a safe bet.

I need to look up what Alicia Marie is.

I think you need to ask him about it because perhaps there is a plausible explanation where someone else.

Yes, you have to ask, because I agree.

I know he doesn't have siblings or anything.

Maybe he left it logged on at the library or something.

Like, you do need to ask because it's entirely possible that it's not his internet activity.

Yeah.

So you have to ask, but look within yourself.

Is the idea of him being gay remotely possibly?

A possibility.

You know.

You know.

And if it is, you'll be devastated.

It's really hard to go through.

Thank God you're not married.

Okay, this is just a breakup.

It's going to be hard.

You'll have a hard couple of months.

Think about how much worse it could be if you found this after you got the ring.

By the way, what's his job?

His job might require him to like be

like a paid bot.

Yeah, and maybe James Charles and Jeffree Star and Alicia Marie pay like companies to engage with them.

Yeah, no, it could be a side hustle where he like is a paid bot or he like works in marketing and he like

it could be for his job.

Eight down.

He's he's maybe they give you suggested language.

Eight down, employee of the month.

Maybe they give you suggested language when you become a paid bot of like things internet user, like slang from the kids that is recommended to use in your content and your engagement.

Ask him about it straight up.

Don't accuse him of that.

When you bring it up, you will know the second based on his facial reactions, but you will know if he's like.

genuinely caught or has no idea what you're talking about and it's somebody at the local coffee shop using his, you know, the

communal computer.

Ask him about it.

There are ways out of this, but it needs to be addressed.

Sorry that that happened to you.

And your husband is gay.

Fiancé.

That's hard.

That feels good to say that.

It feels good to say that and not have everybody be like, Claudia,

you're making a grand assumption.

No, James Charles ate down.

There's really no way around that.

Jeffree Star ate the house down boots.

Your boyfriend is gay.

Yeah.

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