Things That Needed To Be Said: Monday, October 20th, 2025

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Well, welcome back to the toast, Citral Z.

Citral Z.

Citral Z, if you're not watching, then you might not realize.

No, you realize because the episodes are back to coming out at a normal hour.

Like, not Pacific Time Coast affecting my business.

I flew home the second I saw the dip.

Yeah, people in LA, they, nobody wants to work these days.

It seems like nobody wants to work these days.

Yeah, that's right.

I'm back.

The frames are back.

Turdy's back in New York.

She's literally never been happier.

The Wi-Fi in her house, fixed.

The flood, fixed.

Washing machine, still not working.

But I'll survive.

I'll just wear dirty out of nature is healing.

Turdy's back in New York.

Bruno's back to work supporting his mama.

He's taking care of me because Bruno is my doula.

So he's just like keeping tabs on me.

I'm really glad that you have a healer in your midst.

Throughout this late stage of pregnancy, I'm constantly being seen by a professional.

So everything's coming up toast.

So Ben had left LA for the weekend to go to like his best friend's wedding.

And I was like, you know what?

I can do this.

Like I can be in another state alone.

And you know what?

I can't.

I can't be in another state alone.

I, and people have a lot of fun.

That's a spot to wrap your head around.

Of course it is.

People also have asked me, like, have you experienced any sort of like postpartum depression, postpartum anxiety?

And up until this weekend, no.

Anxiety, like, oh my God.

What I don't, I haven't really had like a lot of experience with it.

It's horrible.

Oh my God, it's so terrible.

What are you guys living through?

Oh my God, it's seriously crippling.

Like, not me breathing.

Like

one two three like it was horrible um so yeah i'm home and i've actually never ever been happier okay i have a beautiful new what am i running from i have a beautiful new home and not ben's business thriving while we were in la mine's comes crashing down i got so much hate for my pacific time no no bitch this episode will be out so early hi guys how you dirty hi yeah we missed you honestly it's better for me like you know i'm i'm never gonna clip your wings and dives i'm never gonna clip your wings i'm not gonna say like turdy you can't go live out your content creator dreams in la my dreams please You can't go live out your husband's content creator.

And I do feel like you being in LA like can't be bad for business.

So I'm going to

be flexible, but I'm happier home.

Yeah, it was going to be nice for your maternity leave, which by the way, this is Jackie's last week.

So make it count.

Or is it?

I'm just sort of here until I can't no more.

Yeah, like.

I don't have any hard stops, you know?

Okay, well, that's great because I had a ton of amazing co-host booked all of whom i canceled on so i'd like to apologize to all them and thank them for being so generous with their time um but don't worry i'll still crush it last night like and it's not even because i might give birth but like i might just like run out of gas of course last night i got like an aura migraine out of nowhere it was so we were watching football and like i could the tv was like blah blah blah it's horrible i had to get into bed at eight o'clock and like just lay in the dark of course i didn't fall asleep till 1 a.m

oh my god sounds terrible it was yeah it was really bad so i'm like oh if if things like like this are going to happen, like, I don't know, um, you know, that would

be like the next morning.

I'd be like, hey, can Ben do it?

So I'm just going to be here until I feel like I can't know Mo.

That's great.

Listen, if you want to cut out early, I'm okay.

And like in the past, I've always stayed late.

In the past, I've always felt like I want to like have a hard stop so I can say my piece and say my goodbyes.

And

then last time I did that and I still had like five more, I went five more days and I was like, oh, well, I could have just been podcasting.

So like.

And the days are like long and boring when you're doing nothing, just like waiting for a baby to come.

So I will be Irish exiting this podcast.

We're not going to have like an official.

I love that.

We're not going to have an official changing of ceremonies.

And also, no, if I do stop podcasting, it doesn't mean necessarily that I gave birth, but I just like

I gave up.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I gave up.

So well, the good news is that I have not only

I'll check and jive, whatever you need, but I've also have a Halloween plan.

So if Jackie's still here, I have an amazing costume that also works just as good if Jackie's not here.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Don't worry.

In some ways it's, it works better if I'm here, but actually in other ways it works better if I'm not here.

Yeah, yeah, no, guys, don't worry.

It's we've and I have to, it came from one of our listeners who had the most amazing idea.

So I didn't even come up with it myself.

Thousand percent.

How was your weekend?

I know you were like traveling and having anxiety.

Was there any joy?

It was horrible.

Was there any joy?

I watched Chad Powers last night.

And not only am I loving the show so much, I found out the craziest thing about the show.

Okay.

So there's a love interest.

She's like the coach's daughter, of course.

Sorry, the coach's daughter.

And she looks so familiar to me.

She looks like a mix of Taylor Donahue and Aaron Andrews.

But you know what I found out?

Why she might look familiar to me?

Do you know who she's married to?

No.

Okay, but I want you to know.

I don't even know who she is.

Somebody in sports that we've actually been talking about in an extremely dramatic marriage.

Sanchez.

Yes.

They're married.

Yes.

She's been like hiding out.

It's his wife.

She's on the the show.

And I was shook because she looks so young.

I thought she was like 19.

Interesting.

That's a good fact.

No.

Yeah, that is pretty good.

And have you and your husband started the show?

No, we haven't yet.

I've been catching up.

We haven't yet, by the way.

There's only four episodes out.

Like, we're now watching it episodically, which is so annoying.

I've been catching up on like everything on my content plate that I always put there just to like, you know, it's a graveyard of shit that I like, I don't know how to end the conversation.

But I picked it up and I watched DCC season two finally because all summer we like planned to watch together, but then we were all like grandmas at eight o'clock going to bed.

And

what else did I watch?

Nobody wants this.

Oh, I did finish Nobody Wants This, but you guys know when the new season comes out this week, like I'm so irrelevant and on time.

I finished Love is Blind.

Well, like I'm caught up.

I'm caught up as well.

And then what I didn't realize is that Molly Mae's new dock like is out now.

So that's probably what I'll do tonight.

But it's also

I saw a clip that's making the rounds on TikTok from Molly Mae's new doc.

She's kind of like losing her shit about, and it was so relatable.

People were like, She's being rude.

I'm like, no, she's being real.

They were getting her dressed for the Big L'Oreal show.

And like, she hated everything.

I'm like, she's like, her body, her legs, she was too covered up, too sexy.

She was being so real.

She was like, not being the nicest, but like, you know, when you get in like a state like that, like, there's no talking to you.

No, it's true.

And that's like when I say when it's like hard to be a model, like a thousand percent.

I know it's a joke, but I wouldn't want to do it.

I know it's a joke to say that like like modeling is hard but yeah I wouldn't want to do it

and they're always asking us to do it and we always have to say like no we don't want to model like the two times that we did it I was like I'm glad

and just know like Kendall Jenner can't complain like the models can't complain no like nobody wants to hear how hard it is to be a model but just know I know

yeah we've modeled twice wait when you say twice what are you talking about I do the one.

The one for Children's Place.

Yeah, which was like, ended up so cute, but like the day itself was hard.

And I just assume there's another one.

But it's like, even when we do our photo shoot, we do our toast.

Oh, for a merch, please.

It's in my backyard for 30 minutes.

And that's so hard.

But even that is horrible.

That's horrible.

When we did our photo shoot for our new album cover.

Okay, but that was actually fun.

Everybody came.

All your friends came.

We had lunch.

Like, remember?

Lunch?

Where'd we have a lunch?

We, like, brought food in.

We ate.

Oh, that's the best.

We ate.

Yeah.

I actually don't remember the food.

That's really sad.

All your friends stopped by.

Kellyanne was there, Carr, lunch.

That was fun.

Yeah, we were like cute and twirly, but still it's a hard job.

By the way.

Yeah, that one was fun because like that was a photo shoot we paid for.

So like we could leave whenever we wanted.

But yeah, contract, we're not really mom.

We got to like call the looks too.

Like you don't like what you look like.

We were in charge of everything.

Yeah.

And mind you, it was like three hours.

Most photo shoots, like a whole day.

It's horrible.

it's horrible you guys so like stop asking us to be in your photo shoot it's so annoying check on your local models so true

um

so yeah i caught up on love is blind i didn't really do much this weekend except just like pace back and forth yeah and come home she's coming home now let's talk about home home is where the rodeo is

oh and room that's how you know i needed like a full fucking factory reset that's how you know

She's like, I miss Romeo.

So when I got home yesterday, Ben was already home because he was here for the wedding.

And I was like, I think Romeo can come home.

And I swear to God, I don't know what he thought I was going to say, but it certainly wasn't that.

So Romeo came home last night.

Shout out to Bruce and Ava for taking such good care.

He,

I'm in a place to receive him.

Do you know what I mean?

I'm yearning for just my home.

And Romeo is my family.

And you know what?

It was good.

You missed him, that little bugger.

I didn't miss him, but I missed like what he represented.

Yeah.

Now, like, now the puzzle is complete.

Yeah, no, we're a family.

There was like a tiny piece messing, tiny, loud, barking piece.

Yeah.

And you know what?

It takes,

you need to leave your home to appreciate your home, you know?

Ain't that the truth?

Even though I feel I always appreciate my home, but more so like my hometown.

Yeah.

You know, you're always like, New York this, New York that.

Oh, please.

You should see what the people in LA are living like.

Horrible.

Horrible.

Well, we're happy to have you back, Romeo.

It's so much better this way.

Like, I don't, I don't have anxiety about like rushing the episodes out.

Like, they're going to come out at a normal time and everybody can eat lunch.

And now you could say you tried.

Like, when people are like, Turdy, like, why don't you bring your talents to Hollywood?

Like,

yeah.

No.

I did.

You tried.

And Ben was like, fine.

Like, I mean, you were there for like two weeks.

That's a long time.

I was there for about like 12 days.

Oh, no, actually, like, four,

12, yeah, 12.

Um,

and it wasn't what Ben would have decided, but he supported.

Once I said, I'm like, I'm having anxiety, he was like, Okay, we can go.

He was like, You're having anxiety?

I'm just not anxiety, girl, you know.

The town got that's LA's effect, like

made him a drug addict, and you have mental health.

It's anxious a ball of anxiety, yeah,

yeah.

No, damn me struggling with my mental health.

Like, seriously, it's hell.

I'm like, seriously, I feel like someone violes, like, it's horrible.

Yeah, for real.

Now you know what everyone's talking about.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So I'm just ready to slay.

Like, I want to come here and like do my podcast and slay.

Slay all day, per se?

No, not all day.

I'm tired.

I have like a lot going on.

Slay for the next hour and 15

per se?

Yeah.

Or like slay the morning away.

Just the morning.

I agree.

Just the morning.

I've got lunch plans.

I want to thank you for being supportive of me in this sort of transatlantic journey.

And I promise I won't do it again.

Okay, but you know,

don't make promises.

Like, you don't have to promise anything.

Just see where the wind takes you, Daddy.

I like that too.

We've got a lot of stories.

It's actually going to be like.

Oh, did you happen to consider the story I submitted for consideration?

For tomorrow, it's giving tomorrow because we have, I'm already at seven stories.

I'm going to kind of whittle down seeing where the conversation takes us.

I guess we'll be talking about Kristen Bell's Bell's weird Instagram caption tomorrow.

Yes.

Unfortunately, we actually have a lot of stories because it's Mondaries.

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Our first story, some like major international news that spans art, fashion, history.

Oh my God.

The Louvre was robbed.

Jewels with an inestimable

value, a word I never even heard before because it's never used, an inestimable value, stole from the Napoleon collection at the Louvre.

So this weekend, several people disguised as construction workers broke into the world-famous Louvre Museum in Paris on Sunday, cracking open display cases and stealing jewelry that once belonged to Emperor Napoleon and his wife, officials said.

At least nine pieces of jewelry of inestimable heritage and historical value, including crowns, necklaces, earrings, and brooches, were taken in the Brazen Heist before the thieves made their getaway on motorcycles, two ministers said.

Investigations have begun and a precise list of the stolen items is underway.

They also stole a tiara that they dropped on their way out and broke.

Yeah.

So many thoughts.

It's literally a movie.

Yeah.

Obviously, I thought of them at Gala.

What was that?

Oceans?

Eight?

Eleven?

No, I think it was 11.

12.

Yeah, whatever.

Oceans, 14.

And of course, you know, never took victim blame.

I blame the heistman wholeheartedly.

But the Louvre is supposed to be impenetrable.

And if you're going to house great works of art, jewelry, the fucking Mona Lisa is there and some construction workers.

Like, how dumb are you?

All you need is to buy like a construction vest on Amazon and take like a forklift up to the second floor and break a window.

Right.

So it's giving like two kids, one on the kid's shoulder wearing a trench coat trying to get into the movies like how dumb are you yeah that it could be so

easy it was done like in a matter of minutes it was like right before the museum opened no one was harmed it was like so quick they just like took everything and ran off and it was also it didn't seem like i mean what do i know but like They made a lot of like mistakes.

They tried to like set their little crane on fire on the way out.

Maybe it has like a serial number or whatever.

They were not able to do that.

They dropped the crown.

They dropped one of their like vests.

They left some evidence.

Macron has said that he will put the full weight of the French behind this.

Yeah, not the full weight of the French, like claims.

To find these perpetrators and bring them to justice.

Do you think that's they're going to find them?

They might find them, but I don't believe that they will find the jewels.

Like I think, you know, they take them apart and sell them for parts.

And I think like they're already on the black market.

Do you know what I mean?

It's been 24 hours.

Interesting.

That would be really crazy.

Because you can't really sell this stuff.

I guess, yeah, you could break it down and

sell the necklace.

Sell off some rubies.

But no, like real buyer is going to buy stolen.

But there are people who don't care.

Yeah.

There are people who don't care.

Not only that,

these things get flooded back into the art market and people don't realize they're stolen.

That happened with a lot of like Nazi artwork.

Yeah.

But no, but like, I mean, anyone who's like looking could, could, you know, realize that this is a significant.

Of course, not like the black market being being so busy this morning all of a sudden

well all I know is that I mean I'm just terrified at what these these people must be shaking in their boots not the full weight of the French country like you mean the same country that just like rolled over and took it for the Nazis please I'm petrified yeah he's he's saying they're gonna get him

Sure, okay, get them.

Like, you didn't.

And, you know, if you don't get them immediately, like, you're not getting them.

Do you know what I mean?

Yeah, but I mean, one time the Mona Lisa was stolen for two years and they recovered her.

What?

Yeah, like 100 years ago, a worker at the Louvre like stole the Mona Lisa.

It was like an inside job and it was missing for two years.

How'd they find it?

I don't know.

They should make a movie about that.

Like that actually sounds interesting.

But also, it's not like you would like cut up the Mona Lisa for parts.

Like I actually think it's harder to move.

So it's just wound up sitting in someone's house.

It's actually such a good call.

Like stealing it for what?

To look at it?

And low-key, it's like not even that nice.

It's tiny.

But sweet, but you work there already.

Right.

You could look at it without going to jail.

But the jewels, like, I actually do think that you're right.

That they sell them for

goner.

Yeah.

Oh, I didn't even think about that.

Like, what's the point in stealing priceless artwork?

Like, you literally can't sell it.

Imagine having the Mona Lisa hanging.

Actually, I guess if you were like a...

Like a cartel or like somebody who like lives in a legal life.

Yeah.

You would buy it, like, not to show it off, but because like you have it.

Yeah.

If you live in a legal life.

But there's like four people, four potential sellers, and you would have to find them without getting caught.

Yeah, or be the one to steal yourself.

This is different.

This is like, I'm not even one who like cares so much about like culture and history and like the preservation of art, but like this is disgraceful.

Yeah, this is disgraceful.

Like you have a responsibility.

You've been in charge with all of this

historic, significant.

You're the stewards and you've denied

it.

I don't know if I feel like I've told this story.

I went to a wedding once at the Met

and I like took a picture and it's like, do not touch.

And I had like my finger, like, I wasn't touching, but I was like, ah, you know, like a dumb picture on my Instagram with millions of followers.

Like, not somebody finding me at the wedding who like works for the Met and telling me to delete it.

Like, they

were like being annoying and like had sticks up their butts, but at least like nothing gets stolen from there.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Until it does.

Yeah.

Um,

just really

bad.

Yeah.

Bad for Napoleon and his wife, Josephine.

Well, I'm sending my thoughts and prayers to you, Josephine.

Josephine must be feeling like so, you know, it's such a terrible feeling to have your privacy invaded.

Praying for Josephine, sending lots of love.

Yeah.

How do the kids do?

Wait.

I know we have this conversation.

Obviously, millennials do these hard hands.

What do the kids do?

Oh, they do this.

No.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, no, they do like

that.

No, they don't.

Yes, they do.

No, they don't.

They don't do it like this.

No.

They take their

index and middle finger.

Yeah, they do this.

It looks like gang signs when they do it.

I don't know.

They walk to Josephine.

But you know what I realized?

So, this generation of teens and stuff, they do it like this.

But the next generation, like of our kids, are going to do it like this because we do it like this.

Because I'm always going like this.

So then, like, they're going to go like this.

So, we're going to bring it back.

That's cute.

But beautiful to think about.

Yeah.

It's the circle.

The circle of life.

Are you ready for our next story?

Mm-hmm.

The girls are seemingly fighting again.

Selena and Haley.

Oh, I have to.

I can't believe this wasn't story number one.

I have to talk about this.

Well, story number one is the international crime news.

Like, it just has to be, you know, this is bigger.

This is also an international crime.

Selena and Haley seem to be beefing again.

No, Selena Gomez is beefing with the mirror.

Okay, yeah.

So, Haley Bieber gave an interview to Wall Street Journal, and she was asked about being in Sephora.

Um, she was asked about potential comparisons between other brands, and Haley said, It's always annoying being pitted against other people.

I didn't ask for that.

When people want to see you in a certain way and they've made up a story about you in their minds, it's not up to you to change that.

Um, she also had said something.

I need to find the exact quote.

Give me a second.

Yeah, it's in our chat.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

We were talking about it.

Yeah, I'm going to surface it one second.

She was then also asked,

like, the reporter was

trying to start stuff.

Haley did not give in.

They didn't even mention Selena, but then in the article, when the reporter was transcribing the answer to these like sort of pushy questions, the reporter brought up Selena Gomez's rare beauty that was never brought up in the interview.

Yeah.

So read the whole exercise.

She said, I asked if Bieber feels competitive now that her products have to stand up against other Sephora brands.

Quote, I think there's space for everybody, she says.

She's most competitive with herself, she adds.

I don't feel competitive with people that I'm not inspired by, she said.

Then the reporter said, so nothing there had anything to do with like Rare Beauty yet.

Then the reporter wrote, Is she nervous that Sephora shoppers might compare Rode to Rare Beauty, the brand from Selena Gomez that's also sold at Sephora?

Fans have suggested there's a rivalry between the two.

Gomez used to date Justin when they were younger.

Before she can respond, a publicist sitting nearby tells her to skip the question.

Haley says, quote, it's always annoying being pitted against other people.

I didn't ask for that.

When people want to see you a certain way and they've made up a story about you in their minds, it's not up to you to change that.

Literally talking to you,

reporter.

Literally.

So literally, she did not bring up Selena.

The other reporter did.

And then when the reporter did, Selena did, Haley did not mention Selena at all.

Selena then took to her Instagram to like respond, even though Haley wasn't talking to her.

And will you read what she wrote there as well?

Yes, she wrote on her story, just leave the girl alone.

Oh my God, it reminds me of leave the mouse alone.

Leave the mouse alone.

Let the mouse go.

I love that.

Just leave the girl alone.

She can say whatever she wants.

Doesn't affect my life whatsoever.

It's just about relevance.

It's just about relevance, not intelligence.

Be kind.

All brands inspire me.

There's room for everyone and hopefully we can all stop not her calling haley bieber stupid and then saying be kind i'm sorry if selena gomez has no haters i have sadly passed away give my best to romeo

i can't like seriously first of all this is such an intentional like reporter being a starter yeah and then that she can't do that or doesn't want to

as a woman who's been in the media for so many years like sorry who's the not intelligent one first of all leave haley bieber the alone i've seriously had a fuck enough of these people selena's so desperate to be a victim.

I cannot take it.

If Selena, like,

I really need to calm down.

I just really thought she had moved on from these sorts of antics.

Like, she's just got, I just

assume that, like, in the marriage, and I saw these interviews between her and Betty, and he just seems like a really great partner for her.

Like,

and that the two of them together like are stronger together, that you don't have to like resort to these like victim antics.

She's so desperate.

But that's what happens when you assume.

She never said, I'm, I'm good now.

I'll stop doing this

just like harmless beef like we've talked about this at length but like it could seriously be studied how horrible the internet has been to haley bieber for an actual decade and while it's never been selena gomez like outright doing it it is her fans doing it on her behalf and she's never discouraged them right she always does it in like a cloaked veil way where it actually incites more hate towards haley bieber and this is just like another instance of her doing that and like i'm so fucking sick of it like seriously selena Gomez needs to be held accountable for her actions.

I mean it.

Yeah, but also this reporter with this.

This is a fucking question.

There's a hundred brands in Sephora.

And Haley Dieber is saying, like, I'm not like, you know, competitive about people I don't feel inspired by.

Like, I think it's very like just honest and straightforward to say that you wouldn't be inspired by every brand in Sephora.

There are so many.

And to be clear, she said that before the reporter brought up Selena.

So she's not going to be able to do that, but Selena is saying what Selena is saying is take out the rare beauty of it.

I'm inspired by everyone.

I'm better than you because I'm inspired by every brand in Sephora.

That's not good.

You should have standards.

You shouldn't be inspired by everyone.

Other people are stupid and ugly and make bad shit sometimes.

Like, I'm not inspired by every podcast.

I've listened to some of the worst, shittiest podcasts.

Like, I'm inspired by the good ones.

What a dumb thing to say.

That's where she gets like very high and mighty.

Holier than thou.

I'm inspired by all.

Ugh, I'm so over this.

Like,

it's hella problematic behavior for real.

Yeah, I just can't believe

people are like falling for it still.

Like both Selena self and then also like the fans who like are now taking up their picture ports.

I guess that means us too.

Since like, yeah, no, by the way, I have a Haley Bieber stand till I die.

And sometimes like I'm always going to defend her and I can acknowledge my own bias, right?

There's no bias here.

I'm sorry.

Like her responding to something that wasn't about her and like sending more hate Haley's way, like shame on her.

What is she?

Doing this from her fucking honeymoon.

Get a life.

yeah

she's really an unstable and I just wish like if she wants to come for Haley just like go like say what you mean you stole my boyfriend say what you mean like stop it I'm styming everyone

yeah be kind

of everyone be kind

you're not intelligent you're ugly you're fat you're stupid be kind like just

like she said I will have so much more respect for her if she just let it rip owned it instead of like hiding behind all this like victim

picture at the lackma well that's our next story is lackmer

jackie

lol

yeah

hate well i don't know if it was lacmer but the academy museum gala 2025 red carpet took place this weekend so this is always the event where everyone who's anyone goes everyone brings their image

for it's for the academy museum of motion pictures at the academy museum in los angeles in support of the museum's education initiatives, public programming, and future exhibitions.

So it's like a charity gala that's extremely well attended because it has to do with movies and the arts.

Motion pictures, got it.

Everybody shows up.

They have a Par G red carpet.

And everybody really always looks their best.

Yeah, they bring.

It's kind of like a smaller version of the Met Gala, crazily enough.

But it's not costume.

And also, other

awards ceremonies.

I feel like people either play it like really safe because they don't want to like overshadow their night with a bad dress or they're just trying to do something big like at the Grammys.

This is one where it's like, we're just going to look beautiful because it's a beautiful night.

It's like high society.

Yeah.

So attendees included Kim Kardashian, who made news by wearing a sheet over her face.

Yeah.

Yeah, Marjelle.

It's so stupid because she wore a sheet over her face for the second time.

But it's also stupid because she was like so close to slaying.

And I feel like we've been really hard on her.

Her fashion, like low-key sucks, for somebody who's like so obsessed with fashion, she like never slays.

um and the dress was sick she just took the bag off her head she would have looked amazing i don't get it like i don't and i don't want to sorry i don't want i don't want to be like i'm not like woke and cultured i didn't get it and i don't want this to be like my next favorite thing and i go out with a bag on my head yeah no i i'm woman enough to admit like i don't get it and and and that i don't want to participate And I didn't get it.

It's not a trend.

I'll be fine.

I didn't get it when she did it on the Met Gala red carpet.

And that was way uglier.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So she made news with that.

Jacob Alordi was there.

He does always get out on this night.

I feel like he has a different girlfriend there every day.

It's true.

Kaya Gerber.

Speaking of, Kaya Gerber was there.

Best dressed, best looking,

best new face.

Best everything.

She somehow like looks more beautiful than ever.

Like it looks like she had work done, but like, how do you

tune up?

a Picasso.

A perfect.

I actually don't think she had work done.

It's crazy to say.

I think she like lost a little bit of weight, which is insane.

And I feel like she slayed the house down boots on her glam.

Like maybe she had a new makeup artist because she doesn't do like high, high glam, like contour smokey eye.

Yeah.

She did like full beat and she looked sick.

Yeah, she looked sick.

It was something was different.

Manish tana.

Ha.

Yeah, no.

Winds in the east.

Storm coming in.

Like, I can't figure it out.

But I love it.

It's just like more beauty.

I love it.

And I've been seeing a lot of footage of her and her boyfriend.

they were like out and about somewhere recently her like no no name boyfriend i'm obsessed lessons in chemistry

yeah right i'm obsessed currently unemployed yeah it's okay he's a nepo baby and love he was really good in lessons in chemistry that'll tide him over for a while it was enough to carry him through um

Haley Bieber was there.

Selena was there.

Haley Bieber looked amazing.

She did.

Kendall was there.

Not my favorite outfit from her, but she's just so pretty and tall.

Like, who cares?

Yeah, yeah, I think she likes being looking like serious, like, yeah, eyes up here.

Yeah, right.

I like that.

Ask me what I'm reading.

I'm like kind of a nerd.

A lot of people don't know about this.

Like, me and my friends, we're nerds.

And Hillary's weird.

Sure.

Sure, we are.

I like to sit around in like paint.

A bunch of other peeps

attended.

Lily Rodriguez looks gorgeous.

And who's her man?

Yeah, you know.

Lewis Patridge, but I don't know who that is.

Thank you.

Yeah, he's from a show that we don't watch, but like people love him.

Okay, cool.

I want to say stranger things, but I also want to not say.

To say or not to say.

That is Lewis Partridge.

So it was a big night.

Always a fun night to see the pics from.

It's kind of an ideal red carpet.

Like, I just want pictures.

I don't want to telecast.

I don't want to, like, you know.

Okay, that's so funny that you brought that up because they did have the chicken chop girl there.

Yeah.

And I thought that was like extremely like a lowbrow decision.

Not that there's anything wrong with her, but like to have like an internet show doing questions.

Like, no, what's cool about this event is like we have no idea what it is.

Like, don't open the curtain.

And we don't know what they're saying.

Like, don't speak.

Yet actually

smile.

Yeah, I saw one interview from Chicken Chop and I didn't, I was like, oh no.

Who was it?

That's not the vibe.

Haley Bieber.

Oh,

I saw that too.

I love to see Haley.

Bieber.

I mean, I love her, but like, it wasn't about her.

It was just like, this is not the format.

Like, we're not joking.

This is not a no-joke.

Also, just like, shh,

you know,

shh,

hush, hush, little celeb, just walk.

I've had enough of these celebrities talking.

Like, I'm literally some of the most unintelligible people.

What if you just

and it's such an important thing in life to know when to shush?

Yeah.

Speak.

Don't speak.

Smile.

Don't smile.

Don't smile.

I agree.

We're in agreement.

Good.

We're so agreeable.

Are you ready for our next story?

Is it Sabrina on SNL?

No, it's not.

Did you watch?

I did.

I saw the clips.

I did see some clips because I follow her all of a sudden my whole algorithm because she was collabing with every sketch.

I wound up watching.

She was very generous with those collaborator posts.

I mean, mean, I think she just loves SNL and SNL loves her.

She's the perfect person to do it.

They need her so bad.

Yeah.

She really, um,

like her Disney channel upbringing really shines through because you have to act, you have to sing and you just have to like

kind of like slapstick comedy, which is what they do.

Which is so Disney.

Yeah.

And even the sketches that like weren't good,

they weren't bad.

Like she's great.

Like she can't, nothing she does is bad.

Her performances were super cute.

Like the first one was Man Child, which at this point, like, I'm kind of over the song, but she did it fresh.

Like, I love the whole concept.

She was in her undies, like, being like, you know, slumber party, singing with her hairbrush.

So cute.

The second one, I didn't fully understand.

The theme was karate.

Yeah, but you know what?

When she in the song, like, there's a lot of like,

yeah, right.

So cute.

She's just,

I just love her.

Yeah, she's just adorable.

So just to circle it back to something from two months ago, Lurd did not come out to perform like a showgirl with her, which I really thought that she would.

Oh, and the next three weeks of SNL were announced.

No Lurd.

Right.

Glenn Powell, Miles Teller, Nikki Glazer.

Yeah.

Somber.

Somber.

And who was the other two?

I'll tell you in two.

Just class.

Nothing like that, like, shook Nothing major, but it looked pretty good.

Yeah, yeah.

But not like, nothing groundbreaking.

Or none of our like, you know, doctors.

But who posted it?

How do I find it?

I think if you go to MABC SNL page, like they probably posted in Feed Before Breener.

Okay, like that's where I went first, and I truly can't find it.

Brena, Brina.

I mean, Kelly posted it because she's like so supportive.

Brandy Carlisle.

Oh, and Olivia Dean with Glenn Powell.

A ship.

I'm going to be watching.

I'm going to be watching.

A ship.

Yeah.

Miles Teller, Brandy Carlisle, Nikki Glazer, and Somber.

Glenn Powell, Olivia Dean.

That's strong.

I'm happy for Nikki Glazer.

I feel like that's like a huge thing for her.

Yeah.

Really cool.

Here we go again, crying in bed.

But I did see some of Breener's monologue.

I mean, does she, it's like very obvious.

It's what she wore.

It's very obvious call, but like she's so house bunny.

I love that.

When she was like, you know, a sexy.

Yeah, by the way, she's so antifarous.

She's so animated.

I feel like when she does like that bit, like, I do feel like she's inspired by her in a totally healthy way.

She definitely watches, like, the house bunny is definitely one of her favorite movies.

Yeah, no, she's so aniferous.

I was like, I feel like I'm watching House Bunny.

That's an amazing.

Oh, I thought it was so obvious I felt stupid saying it.

No.

And do you think that Sabrina's inspired by everyone?

All movies?

No.

Me neither.

And it's clear.

Yeah.

She's not the elk

of such.

She is standards, but she's inspiration.

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um there's no such thing

our next story oh i want us to update you on something

so in the journey for a good instagram bio i changed mine over the weekend i don't know if you saw did you see no

it says tenured professor at garjeeparji university which i thought was like cute and fun i love that but i did and then i put like the little graduation cap.

Did you come up with that?

I did.

Oh my God.

At first, at first, I wrote student at Garchy Party University and somebody DM me, love it, but it should be professor.

So I was like, oh, duh.

But then I, I thought it was funny to make it tenured professor.

But I did think of a good one this morning.

Okay.

It's because I'm like, this is one of like my,

I don't know if motto is the right word.

And I couldn't remember who told it to me.

I think it was Tinks.

And I'm like, Tinks, did you tell me this?

And she said, yes.

I'm like, is it okay if I make it my Instagram bio and like steal it and like make my personality?

And she said, yeah.

Cause this is so me.

Ready?

Strong opinions, loosely held.

Like, that's kind of the essence of who I am.

And what you're doing on the platform.

If you don't know me, and that's like the point of an Instagram bio.

So while tenured professor at GPU was like very funny and inside baseball,

what do you think?

I think it's strong.

Better than GPUs.

I mean, you know me.

I'm always gonna.

Yeah, like you're the CEO of Trinity League Global.

I'm a tenured professor.

Like it's funny.

It is really funny, but I do think in terms of like capturing new audiences, showing what you're about, what you do on the platform, like I think it's perfect.

And I will, I'll leave it.

You will.

Okay, so let me just see how it looks.

You guys sound up in the comments which one did you like better than that?

I promise, like, I'll leave you all alone.

You don't have to help me with this stupid thing anymore.

And like, what are we capitalizing?

Is it like strong opinions?

Oh, period.

Loosely held period.

Strong opinions,

loosely held.

Period.

And then is there a period at the end?

If you want one.

No, it's not like like a whole sentence, is that?

Let me see like how it looks.

I'm not loving it, but like I'll sit with it for a little bit.

Yeah.

Okay.

I'm happy for you.

Great update.

Great update.

Thanks.

Thanks.

Our fourth story.

Kylie Jenner was supported by her famous family and friends as Kylie Cosmetics celebrated its 10-year anniversary with a King Kylie party, a throwback to back in the day.

More notably, Maddie Healy was in attendance.

Oh, yeah.

As were some other creators and celebrities, but that was very interesting.

And I just, I, I mean, it's weird, but Kylie's like in this circle now, like this Charlie XCX 1975 circle.

She's like working and close with Charlie.

Charlie's husband is in the 1975.

Kylie also was like partying with Gabriette.

at Coachella.

Like they're friends.

It's not weird.

It's just like, what the hell is Maddie Healy doing at this losery ass affair?

No, it's not weird, but it's just, it's making me sad.

Not even that I need her to be Timmy Taylor.

I never would have, she never would be.

I would never,

but like, I just don't like this team either.

Yeah, no, this is like, okay,

I feel like I've come on the show and been like so negative today, like clowning on the Louvre, clowning on Selena.

Like, I'm clowning on the celebrities, like, telling them to be quiet.

And I'm sorry, I'm just gonna like keep up with that theme today.

Like, I'm hating everything Kylie's doing this week.

Like, hate, hate, hate.

She's so much better than this.

I feel like she was just at this, like, elevated level with her bouncy blowout and her, like, cool, you know, boob job going to basketball games with Timothy Chalamet.

Yeah, like they were going to New York basketball games.

Like, I don't know what the hell she's doing, like, having this party that's like filled with TikTokers.

Like, it's horrible.

It's so tacky.

Now, she's doing Arthur George.

Like, I get it.

It's a throwback, but like, I'm hating it.

I'm hating it.

I, I think of, maybe it's me.

Maybe I think of, I put Kylie on a panacea.

I think of her as like such a more elevated.

She's like, even in her own family, like, she's always like, you just didn't film the show.

Like, she's so highbrowed.

Like, this is what she's coming down to earth for.

Like, I'm hating it.

I agree.

as someone i don't know if we're just so similar and we have to hold the same opinions but like i couldn't be a bigger fan of hers and want to support everything that she does and the first time i hear anything she does like i'm gonna be like oh my god that's the best idea but as i've seen you know uh content matriculate from this the matriculation has been triggering from this idea it's hurting me

Yeah, and are we haters?

Or, because everyone's like lapping it up, like, yes, Kylie Cosmetics.

Like, no, Kylie Cosmetics, what what are you doing?

And I feel like these are people, I'm a true Kylie fan.

Like, I'm actually today wearing a brand new Kylie Cosmetics skin tint.

It is the best skin tint.

Nobody talks about it.

Like, I'm a consumer.

I buy stuff.

Like, I'm an actual fan.

These people who are like living for King Kylie, they don't buy Kylie Cosmetics.

Yeah, the whole thing really is such a mess.

And the girls are like, guys, sound off in the comments.

Are we being haters or does this suck?

Like, universally?

And, like, this is like what we, like, she's always, you know, withholding from us.

She's so private and she doesn't need us anymore.

And like, and we understand, like, go fly like with a billion dollars on Kylie Air.

And you come back to us for this?

Like,

no, no.

Like, nothing is giving to me.

Like, even her in the wig, like, no, I like your brown seat blood out.

You look so sick these days.

Like, don't go back.

Go forward.

Don't go back.

Go forward.

And speaking of King Kylie Era, another throwback related is that Black China is hinting that her and Rob are have a future, perhaps.

Black China hinted at a possible future with her ex-fiancé, Rob Kardashian, whom she referred to as her her person.

After sparking reconciliation rumors last week, Chyna was asked about the status of her relationship with Rob at the LA Women's Expo on Saturday.

She explained that she wants to expand her brood.

She's the mother of two.

She admitted that she'd rather have more kids with Rob than with Tyga in a video obtained by She was V.

So I just want to say when I heard this, like, I'm kind of here for it exponentially.

Like, I think that they're both like really broken people who might actually really be right for each other, except

the lawsuit.

I don't know how she really moves on with his family

after that, even though like, you know, he got with her at the worst of times.

Like, I think that he doesn't really care.

It's so complicated.

And my initial reaction was like, yes, actually, they share a kid together.

They've both been on such journeys.

They're both like completely different people than they were.

I could actually be here for it.

I think that like

it would be great for dream, but there is just like that small thing of that big ass lawsuit.

So much, it was such a big, like they get sued all the time, but they talked about it in the show.

Like it was actually really big and really bad.

And it ended up working out fine for them.

Like they won, but it was really tough for them to go through.

And I don't, I do think too much has happened with his family.

for them to really ever work, but I'm here for it.

I agree.

They are a very forgiving bunch, especially Chris.

I could see like Chris moving forward.

I could see some of the girls

happiness not wanting to, but I think like two people can become the best versions of themselves, but like that doesn't mean that they should then be together.

I don't think like what they had in the beginning was like so strong.

It was really like worth saving out of spite.

And the last thing you would want is for that person to like remind you of how you used to be and maybe bring you back to that place.

So

I don't see how it just could work.

Cause it's not like it was a great love that they like, you know, just were too toxic to enjoy.

Wrong place, wrong time, right person.

Right.

So

I'm glad that they're both in a better place.

And I wouldn't be against it.

I'm just saying I don't think it's like, well, finally, Rob and China get their happy ending.

No, but it does kind of make sense because I've actually been seeing a lot of clips from Black China's social media where she's like either on live or she's with Dream and they're talking really positively about her the time she spends with her dad's side of the family.

And China's like, no, no, you could say it.

You could say it.

it because they were like who's your favorite grandma and you know tokyotoni is like so nutty and i don't think her and china talk anymore ever since china like found christ and i think levy who's chris kardashian is like an amazing grandma and i think that dream spends more than half her time with the kardashians maybe not now so much that like china's healed but she still has all her cousins like she's always you know at

and i think i don't know where rob lives and it's just like that's just her life now

i think rob lives in kylie's old house right like the house that was on the show like that cute little black and white one

not little but you know what I mean yeah maybe

last we heard and yeah Arthur George career King Kylie merch

and I think Arthur George is now like owned entirely by Chris Jenner I don't know

it's I just want to be putting one step in front of the other one foot in front of the other making steps to towards the future yeah I don't want to go back I don't want to go back.

I'm not living in the past.

Nope.

Like,

I'm just not liking it, but maybe I'm just being like a hater, but I don't think that this is cool or good.

I don't.

I'm not inspired by this.

You're not, and it's okay to say you're not inspired by it.

I am not inspired by this.

Though I am, by the way, I like, that's like going to be my new thing.

Like when I hate something, but I don't want to be mean, I'm going to say, like, this isn't inspiring.

Though I am so inspired by Kylie.

In general, yes, but this particular project is not inspirational.

It's matriculation.

The inspirational matriculation.

Title.

Yeah, of Kylie Nation.

And Hailey Bieber.

Well, she's, she's been inspiring.

I'm actually endlessly inspired by Hailey Bieber.

Yeah.

She's been inspiring.

She didn't do anything uninspiring.

I think she's actually the definition of

an inspiration.

She's like extremely trendy.

She's a tastemaker.

That's like called being inspiring.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Thank you for that vocab lesson.

You're welcome.

Matriculation.

Are you ready for our fifth and final story?

One of our favorite swirlies is in Vogue sharing her

battle with cancer.

So content creator Bridget Ball started IVF and came away with a cancer diagnosis reports vogue this morning.

So Bridget, we always call her at Bridget.

She does have a first and last name.

She is, no, she's Bridget.

To me,

she's at Bridget.

I can't say it without the at.

That's funny.

She is a content creator.

She's a designer.

She owns the company, The Bar, The Bar Sweatshirts that everybody wears.

And she just is like a swirly who was like sharing her journey online when she was, she got married to that insane wedding.

Remember, she like closed down a street in Soho for her rehearsal dinner.

And then she was sharing her journey through IVF and she had to stop in the middle of IVF because they found out she had breast cancer like through that journey.

Yeah.

So now she sat down with Vogue.

It was a really like beautiful piece on just like her.

I loved what she was wearing.

Very jacky-o.

Yeah.

She looks so pargy and she's out of radiation now.

So just sort of like updating on the last year or so and like what she has to look forward to.

And it was just a very surprising, beautiful piece.

And I know everyone like who follows Bridget or knows her is just like has so much love for her and everyone has been praying for her.

And like just to be at this point, it's just like, as a fan of her, is very exciting.

Yeah.

I don't know if this is like the new direction of editor-in-chief, Chloe.

What's her name?

But like, these are the types of stories Vogue needs to be at.

It's like Vogue is a women's magazine, right?

We're supposed to be telling women's stories.

Like, Bridget is all, like, she's a brand owner.

Like, yeah, this is exactly what Vogue publication should be publishing.

And like, if you're on the internet and you follow, like, you know, the influencers and the girls, this has been like one of the biggest stories of the last year.

Just like everyone praying for Bridget.

And like, and being updated.

She's shared a lot of updates, like, in her health and also just in her life and her lifestyle and her, like, everything that she's been going through so like we've all been along for a vibe like this is what people have been talking about not me knowing what cold capping is like she's trying to preserve her hair while going through chemo right doing this thing called cold capping and it's working like this is what everyone's been talking about so it's like good when vogue's talking about the things that like yeah like welcome we've been talking about this for a year but welcome are invested in

Yeah, it was really beautiful, like a tribute for like this journey she's been through.

I don't know exactly like what is next for her and her journey, but like finishing these 15 rounds was like a huge thing.

I love her.

Love her.

And I love the journey.

And honestly, words I never thought I'd say, kudos Vogue.

And she's really inspiring.

She is inspiring a lot of women.

I'm say that in earnest.

To get checked and to do some cover.

Put her on the cover.

No, I mean, if we're real, like, is this Chloe's influence?

I feel like it's a good guess.

Yeah, because like this is Vogue considers themselves like too highbrow to like do internet stuff, but like this is what women are talking about.

Yeah.

And this is supposed to be an issue, like a

magazine that talks about women's issues.

This is a huge issue, yeah,

yeah, I love Bridget, like seriously, wait

sending love to Bridget.

I think is this how they do it.

Wait, oh, wait,

I don't think that's how they do it.

No, I'm pretty sure it is.

It's do I just

go like that?

Yeah, they're overcomplicating, like something so simple.

They are,

those are the fast five stories.

You deafs needed to know them.

Defs.

Do you want to talk about Love is Blind?

Ugh.

Yeah.

Okay.

Because once again, I feel like I'm so unique in my takes.

And I don't really have anything to say about the rest of the show except for Madison and Joe's breakup.

And it was so deeply uncomfortable because she's just like begging for clarity.

And at a certain point, I do feel like you have a responsibility as a human being, like just like being a decent human in a relationship, like not to tell the person exactly what you're thinking.

Like, I don't think you need radical transparency in a breakup because it's clear what he was saying was not sufficient.

It was definitely not, you know, it was confusing.

Like him saying, I just don't think it's right.

I don't think it's right.

I won't.

I shouldn't.

Right.

And she's like, I just need more clarity.

I just need more clarity.

And he just keeps saying that.

And I don't think it's because he doesn't have a reason.

It's because the reason is probably going to hurt her feelings.

And so everybody, like, I don't know.

Am I in the minority where I'm like, kind of Team Joe?

He's allowed to break up with someone and you're allowed to tell a little bit of a lie in a breakup if the truth is just mean, right?

Like it's not like I cheated on you or whatever.

Like there's no reason because he's not that into it.

Like how does he, how many times is it in different ways should he say that before you just get it?

Yeah.

And it's not like he's giving you like mixed messages at this point.

Like he is up and at him and leaving.

And I agree.

He's like, he's crying on the floor and he's packing his bags.

Like it was painful.

He should be like, I don't like you.

You.

And that would be better?

No.

No, it was just so frustrating.

Like, and I guess he's the villain, not in my eyes.

Like, the villain.

And she's like, and you let me try on wedding dresses.

What, you want him to let you go to the altar?

Like, that's what this process is for.

Yeah.

And if he broke up with her before that, it's like, you, you got down on one knee.

You should.

Right.

No, no.

You you met my family.

You met my family and then you break up.

Like, there's no good time to end an engagement.

Yeah, and you're just not going to catch me like being on Madison's side.

I'm sorry.

I don't know if that makes me the bad guy here.

You're not, like, he did the right thing.

He saw it through.

And it's not that I'm on Joey's side.

I don't think Joe is like an amazing guy.

I think that he's a little too shallow and surface level for a show such as this.

Really couldn't handle like what it means if love were to be blind.

Right.

No.

He's so not the elk of a blind man.

Now it's two weddings he's called off.

That's not like a commitment.

That's not your man.

Right.

However, the more she speaks and cries and like whines,

the better he looks.

Yeah, because like, this is going to be really mean, but she was giving like whiny little bitch.

Like,

he, people, and this happens a lot with especially when it was like, we've all been here this whole time.

This isn't a shock.

Like, this is actually at last, not at once.

And you are not surprised.

You literally were accusing him to, the night you got home of like not liking you enough.

So, like, now he's like telling you, like, hey, I don't like you enough.

And it's like,

it's like Annie and Joe.

Yeah.

And it's like, well, one, you've made this a self-fulfilling prophecy, but not to say it's your fault, because we can all see they didn't.

Actually, Nick liked Annie enough.

Yes, yes, she ruined that.

But we could all see that Joe like wasn't all the way in to

Madison.

No, and the thing is with the show that I often like have like a difference in opinion with the discourse is that somebody becomes a villain when they break up with someone.

And I'm sorry, you are allowed to break up with a partner.

You are.

Like that doesn't make you a bad person.

I haven't been looking at a lot of the discourse, but I am pleased to see that like people are not

like turning against Nick.

I think people actually appreciated his breakup with Annie

and that like she was

Nick?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's like so Jonas Brothers.

I'm so confused.

I'm trying.

I feel like people like, like, could see that for what it was.

And I'm shocked.

I thought for sure like she had, you know, got the victim.

Victim complex.

Yeah.

Yeah.

She trushed that.

Yeah.

No, she was insufferable.

I just like like, what are you saying about Joe Madison?

It's just like, he was the worst.

He was the worst.

Like, yeah, she's a little annoying, but he was the worst.

It's like, well, no, no,

go back.

Rewind.

She refuses to see that, like, the guy in front of her is like, so not the guy.

Like, let it go.

Let the mouse go.

Yeah.

And at that point, it's like, would you even say yes to this person?

Like, and if you're not.

And if you did, you're the problem.

I'm judging you.

A hundred percent.

I remember that night in the honeymoons?

Remember that?

How they

are still together after that?

Her waking him up.

Be like, you're scaring me, Joe.

She made the...

You're scary.

And it's like, you're scaring him because he's literally half asleep.

He's a zombie.

Like, that's on you, babe.

That's on you.

Joe, you're really scaring me.

You're asking me the same four questions.

Yeah, he's blackout.

You just woke him up.

You just woke a sleeping dog.

Like, of course, that's scary.

One of my core tenants in life is like, you never wake up.

You never wake a sleeping person.

Of course.

So, for me.

Except that's so funny because I was on the phone with Jackie yesterday, you guys, and I was like, sorry, I gotta go.

I gotta wake Ruby up.

And Jackie was like, what?

I was flabbergasted.

She wakes up Ruby from his naps because, like, he naps so good.

And he's going to be.

By the way, I wake up Ruby in the morning too.

Like, not, you know, I need to stop bragging because you seriously need to.

Actually, you know what?

It's good.

You should share these anecdotes of like, of good sleep that it could happen to you it can that it could happen to someone out there and it's not all just like you'll never sleep again no but i also want to say like this happened to me but i also think i did some things like i worked really hard at breastfeeding ruby and like getting him to be fat as fuck like getting him to like be above that birth weight i did the sleep training like that was a little bit hard i let him cry a little bit you know you did

Yeah, oh, yeah, I let him cry.

Not a lot, you guys know, like a couple of minutes.

It was really hard.

I do think, like, as much as I don't rub it in my face, like, I do think you should share that with the audience because I think that's like really reassuring for people to hear that, like, you might have to wake up your child in the morning and they're not going to wake you up and be your alarm every day.

No, there was like that good three and a half months, though, where it was like, it was that.

When he was born, yeah.

Yeah, when he was born, but three and a half months of his first days on earth.

Of his life.

Where he was a baby.

Like, no, I'm saying it's not like, you know, he was born and we slept.

No.

It's like that newborn thing.

Yeah, but honestly, like, doing the wake-ups with a newborn is easier than doing it with a four or five-month-old when you're like, I thought that was a good idea.

Yeah, no, but I saw someone on TikTok say that, like,

having a six-month-old who sleeps through the night and a six-month-old who doesn't sleep through the night are two completely different versions of parenthood.

Yeah.

Of postpartum, too.

I think some people still feel like they're really in the thick of postpartum when they aren't getting a restful night.

Now, Ruby likes to wake up at five in the morning morning and cry a little bit.

It's not the biggest deal.

He doesn't.

He sleeps through the night.

He does.

Yeah.

No, completely different versions of life.

Yeah.

So just a little positivity after a negative episode.

Yeah.

But not going to lie, felt like one of our funniest.

Yeah, it needed to be said.

Kind of the theme of things that needed to be said.

Yeah.

That's a good title.

We have a lot of good titles.

I know.

And like with titles, it's like sometimes we just quote something random and funny that we said, like the matriculation and speculation or whatever.

But I like it better when the title is like a theme of the episode.

And the theme of today's episode is things we needed to say.

Okay.

It sounds like a Lucy scorebook.

Things in which the light should say.

Things that were left to be said.

Like things that were left unsaid, colon, nothing.

We'll workshop it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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