Health is Wealth: Thursday, October 23rd, 2025

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I know what I'm doing this weekend.

Good morning, girlies.

It's the toast.

It's Jackson Claude, and we're your host.

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We'll start your day off swirly.

It's the toast.

I sound amazing.

Welcome back to the toast and happy Thursday.

Oh, okay.

Oh, Slay the House down.

What a Subtle subtle Thursday that we've crept into.

Hey, Gorgie Porgy.

Hey, turdy wordy.

Like slowly, you know, winding down on Jax's final week, allegedly.

Yeah, no, I think this is my final week.

It's feeling final.

And I actually, I guess I will have time to

say goodbye.

Oh, you no longer want to just Irish exit.

Say, bye, I'm leaving.

See you soon.

Well, I was like thinking maybe I would like if I had given birth already, you know, but um oh oh she thought she was going to give birth this week.

I thought, I mean, I've been thinking I'm about to give birth for the last four weeks.

Seriously, it's been feeling that way.

So if I make it to the end of this week, like that was the start of my maternity leave.

So I might be able to like give my final remarks tomorrow, make a little speech.

Make a little joke.

Kind of a commencement.

Laugh, ha ha, funny.

Yeah.

So it's funny, right?

You got a sense of humor.

So yeah, that this would be my final week then.

Are you going to say anything?

Tomorrow.

Like you're wearing blue jeans?

Yeah.

I'm wearing blue jeans.

I just feel like one day, hopefully, we can get to a place.

I guess not anytime.

We will never.

I know what you're about to say.

We will never.

You can just like wear jeans.

No, and have say nothing about it.

And it not be international news.

When that day comes, like seriously, lay me to rest.

Like that means I'm not me.

Yeah.

So tell me about your jeans.

So, you know, I'm like stuck at this place in my life in a physical sense where like I wasn't planning on being for that long and I'm just like kind of spending more time here than I anticipated at this current weight in this weight class.

And I was like, you know what?

I like was committed to not buying anything because I don't plan on being here for long, but like I am.

But you have to clothe yourself.

I am here.

Like I am.

So I went to Abercrombie.

I have no idea what size I am.

I bought huge pants.

These are enormous.

I returned the other two.

Like I don't know what size I am.

I think I need to size down to like two sizes, which like made me feel so skinny.

Highly recommend like buying huge pants that you know won't fit you just so you can be like, yeah, I need to size down.

Yeah, that's good.

So, yeah, I'm wearing pants.

Well, not just pants, jeans, blue jeans, light wash blue jeans with a hole in the knee.

Like, it's the whole kitten caboodle.

It's really not just jeans.

Blue jean baby,

LA Lady.

Like, I'm such a blue jean baby.

I'm literally by Lee Cyrus.

Blue jeans.

You're such.

Claudia has great jeans.

Yes!

Like, I'm literally wearing jeans.

Like, that's so crazy.

Um,

yeah, I guess, I guess so.

You know what else is crazy?

The amount of excitement and like fun things in today's episode, because it's Thursday, which is like such a good chill day.

But, you know, if you're into our, you know, extracurricular segments, Thursday's not your favorite day because Wednesday's deer toasters, Friday's queenie and weenie.

And guess what, you guys?

Big surprise, big announcement, secret project reveal.

Ready?

Today, we have an extra deer toaster segment because somebody who works in the marketing department at Netflix said, I want more deer toasters.

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We have a sponsored Deer Toaster segment.

Stay tuned at the end of the episode.

For that, and we're doing Love is Blind recap because we both watched the final episode last night.

So that'll be like fifth and final story into TV recap.

Oh, and I got locked out of Netflix household.

Today's episode is like very Netflix.

I got coded.

So like clearly, oh yeah.

So I got locked out of Netflix household and then I logged everyone else out because I had to get a code.

So clearly people at Netflix are watching this.

Like, cause we love your shows, Netflix.

We love Love is Blind.

We love Nobody Wants us.

Can you fix a Netflix household?

And if not for everybody, can you just like fix it for us?

Something's going on with our household.

I don't know if it's going on for all households, but our household is struggling right now where anyone who wants to watch Netflix like has to do the code and the email.

Even though we're literally coming from a broken household.

Even though I did it yesterday and the day before and the day before that.

And I've established this is my home.

Yeah.

And it's kind of been my home.

Yeah.

And I just feel like I had established that.

And it's not feeling like it's established.

It's not feeling homey.

It's not feeling like an establishment.

So we do have like fun things going on in addition to great stories.

What did you do last night?

You do anything crazy?

What did I do last night?

Oh, I was reading and ignoring your calls.

And then.

Oh my God, I thought Jackie went to labor.

I texted Zach.

I'm like, is she okay?

Did you text him?

I said, is Jackie busy?

Question mark.

I was, then I saw your location.

You were still at the house.

So I was like, maybe she's doing a home birth.

It was just like, of course, like you're busy, but especially like later in your pregnancy, like you've been really communicative with me.

Yeah.

Because I've put myself on bed rest due to my condition.

Yes.

Jackie found out she has a condition.

I have a real condition, you guys.

I can't ever remember the name of it, but someone diagnosed me on YouTube.

Thank you so much.

And so I texted Dr.

Fox and I was like, have you ever heard of symphysis pubis dysfunction?

And he's like, of course.

He's like, of course.

He literally was like, that's like me asking you if you've heard that Taylor and Travis are engaged.

Like it's germane to my job.

To his life.

It's a very serious thing.

SPD, symphysis, symphysis pubis dysfunction.

It is very painful.

It happens to women in pregnancy sometimes.

This is the first time for me.

Can't move.

Like seriously, can't move.

So I have put my, aside from doing the toast and like doing the things that I absolutely have to do, I put myself on bed rest.

That's why I've been so communicative.

I'm just sitting in bed.

So I thought for sure last time I was packing my bags.

I was like, oh,

she's in line.

Here we go.

She wasn't.

And I'm kind of like yearning for the sun.

So like, if you could just sort of like spread those legs, I could use a trip down to the south of the border.

Hey.

I mean, you also just come.

No.

So I went

last night I watched Love is Blind, but I also watched NBA.

And I'm sorry to like keep talking about it.

But I have to tell you guys, I like love the NBA.

I watched the game too.

Zach put it on because the Mavericks are buying.

So, and there's like big news with the Mavericks.

Did Zach tell you?

No.

So they got like in the draft, like the hot college player, like the one everybody wanted, Jackie.

He's 18 years old.

He's the youngest player to ever play in the NBA.

And like everyone was tuning into the Dallas game last night to like see, you know, if he's going to

make it wiggle,

I said, is this a significant game?

Why are we watching basketball?

Right, your husband likes football.

Right.

We just discussed this yesterday.

If we hadn't had that conversation, I might have not even noticed we're watching basketball.

He said it's the season opener.

And they've got this like kid.

He didn't mention it.

It made me, I got like a little teary eyed, like, that's someone's ruby.

And Ben's like, they're all someone's ruby.

I'm like, no, but he's like literally like five years old.

Yeah.

So cute.

Did he play well?

Uh, what I saw, they were like the literal five minutes that I saw when I turned it on, they were tied.

And after five minutes of me watching, they were down by 10.

So I was like, it's better for so you had to see yourself out.

It's better for Dallas if I don't watch.

No, I don't know if they won because I went to sleep.

But the next one, the Brunson boys, are so back.

And I'm like, Ben always wants to watch basketball.

And I say no, because I've said many times here, like, of all the sports, basketball is so boring to watch.

But now, when I watch basketball, I think it might be Ruby because they were in the playoffs.

We were watching in the hospital.

Like the first three weeks postpartum was like, every night was a nickname.

It was like the, literally the best time of my whole fucking life.

So yeah, we could watch the Knicks, okay?

Okay.

Yeah, we can.

Even though Ruby's not watching with you.

No, Ruby's sleeping.

He will love to watch the Knicks one day.

One day.

Okay, so you watched basketball.

Such a boring story.

And Love is Blind, which we're going to recap.

Up and down the court, like back and forth.

Like football, there's a lot going on and there's a a lot of interesting things.

I think basketball is a cluster fuck.

Not only that, they're all just like flip-flopping all over the court.

I can't even go into this conversation again, but like how embarrassing it is to be a basketball player, like pretending you got hurt.

Man the fuck up.

You weigh 200 pounds.

You're fine.

I feel like I saw a lot of traveling too.

Bitches always be traveling.

Right?

Bitches be traveling.

Like, okay, that's like the first rule of basketball.

Yeah, like we know, like we like went to camp.

Yeah, and you guys are traveling.

Like a lot of traveling.

And double dribbling, which is so classic.

Yeah, why don't they call it out?

I thought there's certain rules.

Like they are, but I feel like

they don't enforce them.

They're just sort of like unspoken.

I'm sorry.

I'm a rule follower.

I can't go by this.

It's so true.

But let me tell you, the Brunson boys would never double dribble.

Yeah.

So then, yeah, I watched Love is Blind, and that's about it.

I don't want to rush you, but like we do have a lot to do today.

Yeah, let's get into it.

I don't really have much else,

much else to share.

Yeah.

Unless you want to hear more about my PSD, sound off in the comments.

You said SPD, so.

SPD, yeah.

Yeah, it's hard.

I just feel like you heard that I had coccidenia and like you wanted to come up with your own even more random diagnosis.

You know, your coccydenia could.

Oh, no fucking way.

No fucking way.

And by the way, your SPD is a pregnancy thing.

It will go away.

I live with it every day.

But it got worse in pregnancy, didn't it?

Which?

Coccidenia.

No, it actually went away temporarily.

Oh, yeah.

That's that's the beautiful thing about pregnancy when like baby.

Yeah, the hormone called Relaxin releases into your body.

And some people's like chronic illnesses disappear.

Yeah, like baby and mother's DNA blend to cure the mother of her ailments.

Yeah, and then literally the moment, the moment he was out of me, it came back.

Like I remember thinking, what a beautiful baby.

I love meeting him for the first time.

My tailbone hurts.

Get back in.

Literally.

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Our first story: Jellyroll shows off his dramatic 200-pound weight loss in Australia.

Jellyroll has now flaunted his transformative 200-pound weight loss while arriving in Australia for his down-under tour.

He was photographed walking through the Sydney airport, looking like a brand new man.

He's been on a weight loss journey for a while now.

I mean, it takes a while to lose 300 pounds, but this most recent photos of him, like he is looking slender September.

He is.

I'm really happy for him.

I watched his documentary and he really talked a lot about his struggle with addiction, with like drugs and alcohol.

But it was clear that like he wasn't fully healed and that he had replaced a lot of his addictions with food.

And he had said that, but that was sort of like healthy addiction.

Yeah, it was an addiction he could live with.

And food is an addiction.

I think when you're really overweight, like it needs to be treated as such.

And I'm so happy for him.

I think like, I mean, as I've experienced a dramatic weight loss, like it's fucking life-changing.

Like not enough people talk about like how different life is.

And he must be just experiencing things like for the first time.

And I'm really happy for him.

He's a PJOM.

He's like so cute.

And I'm, I'm very, very happy for him.

Yeah.

Very happy.

He's like made comments about things that he wants to do.

He wants to go skydiving with his wife.

Oh, is there a weight limit?

Like on skydiving, I guess.

Probably.

And he said, like, he now fits into Louis Vuitton.

Pray for his bank account.

No, I love him.

That's so cute.

Okay, obsessed.

Also, it's just so funny how like people in the media like refer like to weight loss for men and women.

Like, where are the Ozempic rumors?

Like the Ozempic allegations?

Like, it's just different how like, even if he was on Ozempic, like people would champion him.

Whereas like if a woman, even if a woman who was like super overweight, um, like you get shit for being on Ozempic.

Do you know what I mean?

And I don't even, I don't know if he did Ozempic or not.

I don't fucking care.

Um, it's just like funny how people talk about it so differently.

Yeah.

Like this weight loss is like totally celebrated, right?

I haven't seen anybody say anything bad.

It's like everyone's so happy for telly roll.

And even though if this were a woman and there have been women who have been like super overweight and lost tonight, it's never like universally celebrated.

Yeah.

I mean, to go from 500 plus pounds.

I mean, I, there's no even like whether it's surgery, Ozembic, whatever, like, I think anyone, anywhere, like you could always find a hater in some corner, but like anyone's going to celebrate that health journey because like that is like major for huge.

It's life-saving.

It's life-saving.

Yeah.

I can't think of an example of a woman who, like, I'm sure there are plenty.

I just can't at the moment.

Like, everything mostly is usually like more aesthetic or like a little bit, or someone who was like a

body positive.

I kind of, there's just more dynamics with women.

Anyway, I think I have a good example:

Melissa McCarthy.

Yeah.

Well, they were like, she's not funny anymore.

And like, she looks weird.

She looks different.

She looks like an alien.

Like, it's not as I don't remember it being like celebrated.

Yeah.

Right?

yeah

or lizzo

but she's body positive so you're right it's like more complicated

other dynamic it's very complicated when like a body positive person who was overweight like wants to lose weight because it's like well were you lying right like with jelly roll it's just like a little more straightforward i guess even though it's a positive health development for anyone who's gonna lose weight of course

but i just like everyone should get this treatment that's great news we're so happy he looks great Yeah, but it's also like we're commenting on a man's body unabashedly.

Yeah, we are.

Which sometimes we don't do for women.

So there's standards that apply for us.

Of course, of course.

But also, I know him and his wife are trying to have a baby.

So I think like when you get healthier like this, a lot of people do it for that reason.

Because also, like, he just was photographed in an airport and everyone's like, the news is happening.

He's not showing off.

It's not like he's in People Magazine holding out his pants and giving us license to comment on it.

So I actually feel like if it was a woman, like this wouldn't be a story that we would be talking about in this way because we'd just be like more like oh we didn't notice she lost 200 pounds she looks the same

yeah

well all's that to say

he looks great yeah he does health is wealth

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Are you ready for our next story?

Some exciting content news because Eddie Murphy is getting the Netflix documentary treatment.

He's looking back on his comedic legacy in a trailer for his new Netflix stock called Being Eddie, which streams on Netflix on November 12th.

Okay, like, I do think that, you know, we overdo and overuse like documentary for celebrities, but Eddie Murphy is the perfect person.

He lives such a private life.

He's kind of like totally closed off from Hollywood.

He's super wealthy.

And he has this like iconic legendary career that people don't even really think or know about.

Most kids these days don't even know.

They maybe know him from Shrek.

He's perfect.

I was so excited when I saw this.

Like I will be watching 100%.

Yeah.

No, and he's like.

an icon in his field.

Like everyone just gets, Josh, oh, I put out an album.

Here's a documentary.

100%.

this is like a bot a life's work yeah you know a whole story I am very excited to learn more about him and like we like grew up on his movies and so it will be like a fun trip down memory lane but I feel like there's also so many things that we didn't know about him and his personal life and his how he got his start and like it's just he's the perfect subject matter for and then also like cutting to him present day, super wealthy as a dad private, like what, what's up with Eddie Murphy now?

Yeah.

And why, what motivated his decision to like completely, you know, avoid public life?

Like, why is he so private?

Does he avoid public life?

Yes, he's like totally, anytime he's ever like stepped out in the last couple of years, which I know he's, I think he did like the SNL

40 or 50 or whatever, he did Coming to America too.

And like, that's literally it.

Um, I don't know why, and I would like to learn.

Maybe it's just like, I made my money, I want to be a dad and like live a normal life-ish,

or I don't know.

Yeah, I don't know either, either, but we're going to get to know more.

Like he doesn't do stand-up anymore.

Like he just, he's like retired.

Yeah.

Kind of like Cameron Diaz.

Comes out for all the Shrek people, really.

She's on Instagram and she sells wine.

Yeah.

She does sell it.

She's hustling.

She sells that wine.

She's been hustling.

Like she took a couple years off and she had like kids, but she's in the game.

She's in the mix now.

That's true.

That's true.

Yeah, but he could just be retired.

Yeah.

They also appear to have like real A-list talent in the documentary.

Yeah, they do.

Jerry Seinfeld.

Some of the names include Arsenio Hall, Chris Rock, Dave Chappelle, Jamie Foxx, Jeffrey Katzenberg.

Jeffrey Katzenberg.

Charek.

Oh, right.

Yeah.

Jerry Seinfeld, Keenan Thompson, Kevin Hart, Michael Chevy Davidson, Tracy Ellis Ross, Tracy Morgan.

I mean, Tommy Parge.

Oh, speaking of Tracy Morgan, the Knicks game last night, front row was stacked.

Saw Tracy Morgan, Jimmy Fallon chatting away with ed sheer and like what is it sheerin doing at the knicks game do you know what i mean like do they even have basketball where he's from and they're like ed sheeron can do whatever he wants it's like really so crazy he's just like this regular guy who is the most famous popular musician like he's like a beat like we don't think about ed sheeran do i I don't consider him.

I was just actually watching.

People are now sending me Daniella and Pasha's Instagrams to show me that they are married and that they are in love.

Sure.

They run a dance school together where they like, oh, that's really cute, choreograph wedding dances for couples.

And so I was watching some of their reels and they did a reel of like most popular wedding songs by artists.

Ed Sheeran.

Ed Sheeran was number one with 16 songs.

Wow.

Yeah, like number two was tied, like John Legend and someone.

Number five was like Frank Sinatra.

Three, Chris Stapleton.

Number one, Ed Sheeran.

It's just, he's just like this random guy.

He's random.

So random.

And like, I don't know why I just felt like Ed Sheeran at the Knicks game.

Like, it just didn't make sense.

Ed Sheeran, like, everywhere.

Yeah.

Good for him.

Everywhere about the charts.

Well, no, he's on the charts.

Ed Sheeran's in his slot, Bara.

You think?

A thousand percent.

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That's what you're thinking of.

Now known as Quo.

Wait, did he put out his album?

Like I said, Old Turns in a slop era.

But like

I wouldn't know.

No, Old Photon was a single, I think, from his album, Forthcoming.

It did.

It did.

New release called Play of the Remixes.

Please stop.

Yeah, it's like I said, Play album 2025.

Oh,

okay.

So, yes, it did come out?

It did come out, yeah.

Right.

And the fact that you even have to ask, therein lies the issue.

I would have to ask because I'm not, you know.

Why do you love open phone?

I mean, hold phone.

Because it was a single got the single treatment.

You know?

And I just think that once you've written a song like Galway Girl, you should really just pack it up and go home.

You're never going to write anything better than that.

My printed song song of

Castle on the Hill.

I actually agree with

his best song.

Speaking of Dancing with the Stars, I just saw like two pros, I forget who it was, doing like a, you know, a choreographed dance, and it was so good.

Ah, Momoe.

That's like a song that makes you feel like you just like look at your life existentially.

Like it's like such a good song.

And I think like, Because he thinks that Shape of You is his best song, that's where he might be faltering.

Like if he's always chasing the high of shape of shape of you, high, yeah, like he should be traveling down Castle on the Hill road.

That by the way, you're so right for that.

That's like the most beautiful song of the modern time.

And he has a lot like perfect, it's a perfect song.

I love, I love, but like

Castle on the Hill.

And I know, I'm sure it did, it did well,

but it didn't do as well as Shape of You.

Yeah, good call.

Our next choice: more TV news.

Another trailer drops.

Secret Lives of Mormon wives.

Mom Talk gets to the bottom of scandal in the new trailer for Secret Lives.

Coming out next month is the new season of Secret Lives of Mormon Lives.

And it looks crazy as ever.

What's crazy, though, is the way they left last season just feels so like irrelevant.

Marciano?

Oh, yeah.

Marciano.

But like this season has to do with Marciano.

Like the girls are going to meet with Marciano.

Like we know Jesse didn't hook up with Marciano.

Can we move move on?

Yeah.

And I forgot to tell you, this actually book day, a Mormon wife.

I am, I saw them on the email.

Oh, you are?

Yeah.

Oh, I thought it was like a surprise.

No, I'm really excited.

Oh, so you do read your email.

Cool.

A glance.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So we'll get the tea.

It's a good one, too.

I was like, I don't want any of the, the, I want the main one.

They're really like all so great.

I know, except like, I have actual personal beef with Michaela.

I'm like, I, I, they were like, which wife do you want?

I'm like I'll take any of them except Michaela I couldn't actually maybe I'd meet her and really like her but like on the show she seems like such a fabis and a mean girl.

Yeah, and I really like did not want to podcast with her.

No in the last season like she was my villain like yeah um but what I like about this show is every time a new season comes out like it really feels like tabula rasa for me yes yes

I'm open to feeling different ways about different people like anyone could show up different and it's not too late for change so like and also she's like pregnant now so I could see myself like moving on from the hatred, but I agree with you.

Like, that's where I was in season two as well.

That's where I drew the line.

But, like, just like season one with Whitney, like, we were so anti-Whitney by season two.

I'm like, what'd you do?

Right.

No, it's true.

They do also do such a good job of like, we really don't know what goes on between the girls, even though they share their entire lives on social media.

In terms of the actual drama, they really save it for the show.

The trailer looked amazing.

And it's like, I follow them all on Instagram and TikTok.

And I actually don't know what's going on in the group, but they still stay relevant.

It's like a really unique balance of like staying relevant on social media while saving all the drama for the show.

And it doesn't hurt that the show really turns around very quickly.

Yeah.

And it seems like now like Taylor's having beef with a new wife who's dating Dakota.

Have you been seeing her posts?

Oh, she like Taylor's, I love her.

She's a perfect reality star.

Her Achilles heel is the fact that she cares about Dakota, like this big time loser.

She absolutely has to stop.

And she's like going on the bachelor and she's on the bachelor.

I know she's still like caught up in him and his drama.

I don't know.

like who is dakota in this world why do we care i don't know she's so much better like move on yeah hopefully she's moving on on the bachelor yeah

um so that's very exciting looking forward to the new season and hulu just like stays slaying the content there's also kardashians came out last night first episode came out last night i know i saw headlines i'm like this is stock releasing headlines it's so annoying like seriously release

every year and no one listens to us it's actually annoying release the episodes episodes.

Like Love is Vine.

What time did Love is Vine come out yesterday?

Oh, I don't know, but when I got in bed to watch it, it was out.

Right.

Because it comes out on Wednesday.

Like, seriously, it's annoying.

And we've like,

it's just annoying.

Yeah, but you know how we feel about it.

And I like wanted to watch and like Kiki and talk about it.

Now I can't.

No, tomorrow.

And then it's like old news.

It's so weird.

And I've already seen it.

Kim had an MRI.

She blames Kanye for her spoiler alert.

I literally wondered.

Like, I can't watch A Kardashians at Daylight and also follow Liz P.

Woods on Instagram because, like, then I'm missing, like, I'm just getting everything spoiled.

Yeah, I mean, I can't watch A Kardashians a Daylight and also choose if has five stories because I'm just getting everything spoiled.

Right.

All of page six today.

Kim.

So annoying.

Kanye, Chloe.

Caitlin's in the first episode, I heard.

Obsessed.

Can't wait.

Maybe we'll be keeping up with sports once and for all.

Are you ready for our fourth story?

Yeah.

Outer Banks director has been accused of grabbing and screaming at a female PA as Chake Stokes and Madeline Klein intervene.

So apparently, Outer Banks has a very toxic director named Jonas Pat.

He's been accused of grabbing and screaming at a female production assistant as the actors Chase Stokes and Madeline Klein intervened.

The incident allegedly took place while the series was filming its fifth and final season in Dubrovnik, Croatia.

He allegedly shook the female PA while shouting in her face, which prompted Chase Stokes to jump in and separate them.

Madeline came to her aid as well, trying to de-escalate the situation.

Several production sources told the outlet that his behavior, alleged behavior, was not, quote, unusual, and that it's about time that it's made public.

Oh, okay, toxic workplace.

Who knew?

Yeah.

This is like weird.

Yeah, it is weird.

Like,

especially because

this show.

They're filming on location right now, but almost all the time they film in Charleston, right?

Yeah.

Or somewhere somewhere in South Carolina.

And like people are always, they literally watch the tapings.

It's like how gossip girl used to film in the city.

Like things get spoiled and everybody takes pictures.

It's really out in the open.

It's not like on a set.

So it makes it harder to get away with this tame of behavior.

Like there's literally like 100 screaming fans.

Yeah.

Down the road.

Like how you can't.

So I feel like we would have known about this.

This is after the fifth season, the first time we're hearing of this.

I knew that there was like a lot of drama on the set with like Rudy and the cast, obviously Madeline and Chase.

And of course, the director was starting stuff.

Like young, passionate individuals.

Love us.

Same fame plus crush plus love plus money.

It's a lot.

But I didn't know the director was a toxic individual.

And it's best that the show is coming to an end.

Yeah, the show, it has run its course.

I know people like really love it.

And I watch it every season, even though like I was pregnant when this one came out and I just like fell asleep and woke up to the spoiler of the century, which was like that somebody big died.

I didn't watch the last season, but I kept up with it for a really long time for me.

It didn't need five seasons.

If last season that came out was four, that's the one that, like, I've watched three seasons, and I feel like that was two more than expected of me.

Right.

Yeah, it is surprising that you even watched the third one.

Yeah.

I actually like like the show when I get into it.

Ben's like National Treasure for horny teens.

That's why Ben likes it.

Like we would not be watching it if Ben didn't love National Treasure so much.

Like it really is like a modern treasure.

Yeah.

So much so actually that after, I remember we went on this journey when I was pregnant.

We watched National Treasure one and two

after

because I'm like why have I recently seen National Treasure you guys should watch the Da Vinci Code have you watched that no I read it

Wow okay slay I know I have to just like throw that in if I have a chance you don't mention that enough I know and I read it so that I could mention it yeah that's the same reason I read uh Demon Copperhead the thing is like da Vinci code was like really good and fun it was like a thriller it what it wasn't like demon copperhead that was a real work of like da DaVinci Code was.

No, it was, but it was also really entertaining.

I guess that's what makes it so great.

I don't know if you heard on The Good Guys, Ben was talking about how he found out that all these girls who are reading, like reading books, like they're not reading.

They're like reading porn.

And Ben was like, yeah, Demon Copperhead is porn.

He just was like, all these books Claudia reads, like Demon Copperhead, it's porn.

No, no, no, not that one.

Yeah, but like, you're right.

You're almost there to me.

Like, just not Demon Copperhead.

Like, that's actually a Pulitzer Prize novel.

Like, that was the exception.

And that's why it was so special.

Novel.

Yeah.

Yeah, that's really funny.

You should read DaVinci Code or you should watch DaVinci Code.

I think there's a sequel too.

And it's like very Louvre-coded.

The Louvre.

They still haven't found them.

No, they haven't.

So they have to say, like, it's like not being found.

Because even if they did, now that enough time has passed, like, the items have been sold for parts.

I don't know.

It depends who it was.

Actually, yeah, I think in like the heist world, you do have to sit on something for, like, once you steal something, you have to sit on it for a while to like before all the, like, so the buzz just sort of dies down.

And then you can start selling it.

I think it's like in someone's basement.

It's like in someone's refrigerator.

Yeah.

Damn.

It's not too late.

No.

If they can get their act together, which is not likely.

Are you ready for our fifth and final story?

TV recap.

Oh, yeah.

Love is blind.

Oh, I'm fucking ready.

Spoiler alerts forthcoming.

forthcoming.

No one got married for the first time.

Nothing about the

episode was surprising until

the third wedding was not a wedding, but it was Sparkle in her apartment.

And I don't really care to talk about the other two.

Like, obviously, they were not getting married.

And the fact that Allie even pretended for two seconds that she was going to marry Anton

is a joke.

Like,

she was like in her.

I actually watched her lead up to the wedding because I forgot to fast forward to M because my husband was there and you know that he was forward he's against that so we watched the lead up and I'm like is this bitch about to get married like what is she doing the way they always trick you like you're sweet and when

his mother came into her bridal suite which is like yeah which was a little much because his mother wanted this wedding big time she must be like itching for grandchildren or something i've never seen a mom on this show like be so like wanting to convince the other person or maybe he's just like never been this close to marriage maybe she thought he would never get married and like she seems like she's a very sweet girl she's a nurse she's literally the most beautiful woman I've ever seen.

She is by far the prettiest girl who's ever been on this show.

Yeah.

And she is like a, like a great beauty.

Yeah, she's a great beauty.

So like, sure, great.

Let's do it.

We would love.

So she comes in and Allie's like, I love him.

I love him, which is true, but I'm not marrying him.

Yeah, when they were at the altar, I'm like, she's not about to marry this guy.

They just made me think for like one second.

I'm like thinking back to everything weird that happened and the drinking.

The drinking.

The drinking.

And the mother, her mom was right.

Like not that you can't marry someone that drinks alcohol, but like he drinks every day.

That's like a lot.

And if your partner does too, great.

But if you don't.

Every day.

That's all.

Every day.

Then.

Edmund and KB's wedding.

I remembered I could fast forward.

Zach was protested, but I was like, I can't sit through that again.

Yeah.

Especially.

Which is really sad.

they have less of a chance of getting married.

So, like, I don't want to watch all this irrelevant content.

I feel bad for KB because, like, it's just a bad position to be in.

He's a very

emotional guy, and they were not compatible for a multitude of reasons.

Um, and so her saying no was not surprising.

Him saying yes was a little surprising, and yeah, I just felt awkward for her because

he's a sweet guy, and there's no good way to say no to to somebody really sweet who did nothing wrong.

Yeah,

he's immature.

He didn't go to Ross, he's immature.

I think he acted one way on camera and another way off camera.

And she knows in her heart, like, this is not my husband.

Yeah, no, I just felt bad for her.

Like, she handled the whole thing with grace.

Like, I really respected how she did it.

And then, like, walking down the aisle together, not like her leaving him, like, was all very beautiful and like nice.

Yeah.

I just like felt awkward.

I feel bad for anyone who goes through the whole process, like, really wanting it and doing everything right,

but at the end of the day, like has a

a person that's just not someone that you can marry like not because like he's a nice guy and a good guy but like that's not that's not her husband so there's no amount of work she could have put into the relationship there's nothing that she could have done like and she tried and we all saw that The only couple who had like a lasting chance at being happy together did not get married and they didn't even have a wedding.

And I was so upset.

Like I'm so mad at Sparkle.

And you and I actually have different opinions on on this because we have like chatted offline about it.

Um,

you're Team Jordan.

I'm Team Sparkle.

I'm so Team Jordan.

Like, I really respect in every relationship, like you have to compromise and like move towards one another.

But, like, this is a different situation.

And he was so clear and so communicative from day one.

Like, my life is my life.

Like, I can't just pack up and go.

I can't, I'm not going to compromise because what matters more is my son.

And like, I really respect how committed he is to being a father.

And I feel like he could not have been more clear about that.

He was like, Listen, I can't, you know, live your life, but I'll make you really happy.

And like, we will be happy together.

Um,

and I think she really thought about it.

I, I, I believe that she had good intentions and like she really thought about it, but ultimately, like, she couldn't just give up these parts of her life and she didn't want to do it alone.

He was like, Do all you want, like, go travel and and I'll be here waiting for you.

She was like, But no, no, like I want somebody like in a partner who can do those things with me.

And so, like, ultimately, I guess like it did come down to money, but it was more, he, he was like, it's about money, but it's more so about lifestyle, which yes, it's fueled by money.

but yeah um

i was really i was devastated like i really wanted her to give up those things and i know she shouldn't have to give up what matters to her like her tennis and her traveling and her whimsical spontaneity um i really i wanted her to give those things up like i did i think she could have had an amazing really happy life with him and a very simple one that's really the difference here he's a very simple low-key guy and she's not Here's the thing.

I think for me, my take on it, like I'm applying some like conjecture to the situation, like reading between the lines, because I don't think it's as straightforward as like, you can't play tennis with me and come golfing with me in the afternoon and that, and that's important to me in my lifestyle.

Like, I think that those are things that she said in that final breakup, but I think there's a lot more.

And the way that I see their relationship as a whole is like, she was ready to be all in with him, move in with him and his son.

take on his life and like she was excited for all of that and like we saw all that enthusiasm.

I think in the weeks that they were living in that apartment, like I thought his behavior and his moods were so like weird and off and unfair.

He was giving her nothing.

So it's like, I'm about to change my whole life, taking you and your son and buy us a house.

And like, you can't even talk to me at the end of the day.

I thought he started being aside from that one argument.

What else you referred to?

Like, even when they went to

Kimo Sabe.

Uh-huh.

He just like stopped talking after the honeymoon.

Like he stopped giving anything, especially when in the pods, he was like, rata ta-ta, Mr.

Personality.

Then they go to the honeymoon and he's like, weird with his friends.

And I, I'm still not over that.

And then they come back to Denver and he's mute.

He was weird with his friends.

And so I think she could not in good conscience change her entire life for a person who was giving her literally nothing.

And I know that he's giving her less than the average because he has this job.

He has his child.

He has, but like, you still have to court a woman you want to marry if you want to marry her.

I don't know.

I just think like for him, like the love was enough and they would figure the rest out.

And like she, for her, like when she was like, I'm a, you're a picky eater.

Like, okay, we've lost the plot.

Yeah, I don't think it was really those things.

Maybe I'm wrong, but like, I'm just looking at everything that we saw over the last few weeks.

I think the person that she met in the podcast.

Why wouldn't she say any of that?

Like, her reason was that.

She could have so bad.

We saw two minutes.

I know, but her bringing up like picky eaters and tennis, like it seems so stupid.

Why, if there were real bigger issues, like, why wouldn't she have brought them up?

And if there were, why would they have been cut out?

I don't know, but they, I mean, they cut stuff out.

I think there were like macro issues and then micro issues down to like lifestyle that I think opposites do attract.

I think look at you and Ben, like you're a picky eater, he's adventurous.

It's beautiful.

Like never been an issue.

He did make a chicken smoothie with Crystal White.

I mean, she shouldn't have broken up with him on that day.

Yeah.

And the fact that she continued to kiss him, like, that's true love.

I'm so upset.

I don't agree with you.

I, I'm like, actually, so desperate at the reunion.

I hope that they've reconnected and at least just dated and like seen what their lives could be like together off camera, not in this turnt apartment.

Like, I'm so upset.

Yeah, but I don't know.

I'm team sparkle on this one.

I just feel like he completely changed as a person from the pods to the final day.

And it's over the course of three weeks.

And just like really

shut her out.

And she's like there being like, wait, let me buy you a $2 million house.

It's expensive.

And then it's like, wait, that's not.

That's not what I should be doing.

And I shouldn't have to like.

She doesn't want, like, he doesn't want the $2 million house.

Like, the things she cares about are like a little

shallow.

I agree if it really is about restaurants and golf and travel.

I agree with if that's really what it is, but I don't think that's what it is.

And this, she came into this experiment so intentional, really like

paying attention to everything, talking to everyone, like questioning every decision of hers.

Like, I think she really, really wanted this, but at the end of the day, could like not change her entire life for someone who wasn't giving her enough.

And he wasn't, he was giving her her love.

I wasn't

love.

He hadn't given her love for her.

Jackie, they're perfect for.

Jackie, I'm telling you.

No, no.

Like, there's no.

We didn't really see like a happy moment.

I guess when they were house hunting, that was like fun and sweet.

And when she came back and said when she met Luca and she was talking to friends, she was like, it was amazing.

Like, I'm telling you, there's, it was.

Not that she didn't want to be his stepmom.

And I feel like towards the end, she just like sort of took it all on the chin.

Like, it was her fault.

Maybe I'm not going to have to be a stepmom.

Maybe I'm not going to have to be a mom.

I, I don't know.

I feel like he made her

he pushed her away and then made her feel like that like and that's me like

looking adding a lot of color to the situation that i could be wrong about but that's my guess as to more so what happened because for her to go from being so intentional for choosing jordan over mike like all these things to then the last day being like well i want to go to a fancy restaurant um and i want to do it when i want to do it right because the way she's talking like go be with mike right so I really don't think that it's that.

Well, I don't think that's the best.

I'm giving Sparkle the benefit of the doubt because she's literally been like the most straightforward, serious person

this season and in the experiment.

Like, I am in general.

I'm giving Sparkle the benefit of the doubt.

Well, I'm happy for you.

I'm looking forward to the reunion.

I'm going to support women.

Just one.

I support woman.

Now, has been spoilers?

Um,

like, kind of, but no.

Like, I heard things, but I don't know who it's about.

Okay.

So, let's dive into our Dear Toasters segment, which usually happens on Wednesdays, but thanks to the Queenies over at Netflix in season two of Nobody Wants This, we have got a Dear Toasters for you inspired by our literally our favorite show that Jackie finally caught up on.

So, Dear Toasters, as you know, our weekly advice segment sponsored by Nobody Wants This Season 2 and now playing only on Netflix.

All right.

Hey, girlies, 24-year-old Catholic Swirly here.

My boyfriend is Jewish and his family invited me to Shabbat dinner.

They're so sweet and amazing.

So I want to bring something, but I don't know what I, what to bring.

I asked my boyfriend, but of course he says, just bring your beautiful self, which yes, I love, but I really need an answer.

His mom is very lovely.

She's a self-proclaimed non-cook.

And my boyfriend and I are one and a half years in.

I can cook and bake.

I do sourdough.

So I can really make anything.

I just don't want to overstep, be too grand, too small, if that makes sense.

Anyways, please help a Catholic swirly out who loves her Jewish boyfriend and his family so much.

I just want to impress them.

Love that.

That is so sweet.

There are so many things you could bring.

This is actually one of my favorite scenes in the show when she goes over to meet his family and she botches the gift.

So you do have to be careful with what you bring to someone's home if they have a kosher home.

So I actually might stay away from food or go to like a kosher place, get like a kosher pastry.

But if you said she's a non-cook, I would recommend actually Jay Cohen's cookbook.

It's called, I could nosh.

It's like all Jewish inspired recipes and it's like very on trend.

Everybody's like, you know, Instagram, TikTok.

And I think she might think it's awful, especially she said she's like not a great cook.

I don't want to go cookbook.

It's giving her jobs, especially if she's like lived her life this long and she doesn't want to cook.

I would say

kosher wine is always nice.

And if they're not kosher, but it's always just thoughtful to like do kosher, especially if it is a Shabbat dinner.

Like it's nice to have kosher wine on the table.

Yep.

Flowers, just like

Adam Brody brought for Joanne's parents.

Also, candlesticks, like pretty candlesticks.

If you go to like a home goods store, that's really cute for Shabbat.

Yeah.

Or anything from like a kosher bakery, like a chala, something that just makes the, like that can contribute to the dinner and makes her life easier.

Yeah, but you don't want to like, don't bring like a brisket.

Like that's like, that's stepping on toes.

Bring like an accoutrement.

A dessert.

Achala is a really good idea.

Yeah, some ragalach.

That's a Jewish cookie.

Bread's bakery.

Rugalach.

Yeah.

Bread's bakery.

All right, ready for our next one?

Mm-hmm.

Hey, Jackson turned.

I've been with my boyfriend for almost four years.

We went ring shopping a little while ago.

He has not bought the ring yet, as far as I know, and it's driving me crazy.

After shopping, he kept stressing about the price, saying he'd have to cut back on dinners and drinks, but I see him still placing little sports bets, $10 here and there, with his bonus money from the app.

Part of me feels like that money could go towards the ring.

Am I overthinking this because I just want the ring already, or is it fair to bring this up?

If so, how?

I think that's like fair to be frustrated by.

It is.

No, 100%.

Especially like.

If he hadn't made it such a point to like make you feel bad after shopping, like it's so expensive.

Like, okay, that's your problem, not mine.

No, like, I think it's time for a chat.

Let's pull him for a chat.

It's time for a chat.

It's called priorities.

Yeah, but I feel like you also do need to find out like if he did buy the ring.

Like, imagine you have this whole conversation and he already bought it.

And like, that's why he's doing his like $10 bets because he has the cash now.

Yeah.

Good call.

Do a little digging.

Do a little digging.

Good call.

Rifle around.

And if you come to the conclusion that he probably hasn't bought it.

But then like, don't they give you like some like money to play with?

That's like...

Yes, bonus bets.

That's what she said.

Right.

So it's not like actual cash that he could use.

Yeah, you also need to do a little digging.

Like, is it real money or is it bonus bet money?

Like.

Yeah, that's so.

But the issue here is like you went ring chopping and he hasn't bought the ring yet.

So in the, in the words of Charlotte York, set the date.

Set the date.

I think this time we're coming here.

Is a little plain old communication.

Oh, what I was going to say, I think the solution here is a plain old snooping.

Really?

Just find out if you bought the ring yet.

You can't make a big big stinkeroo, balagon.

Then you're Rebecca,

and

she played herself because she went snooping for the ring and she put it on.

If she never did that, they would have still been together.

That was actually the craziest scene in that whole show.

Like, what was she doing?

Wait, five more minutes.

Yeah, she played herself.

Congratulations.

You played yourself.

Don't be like Rebecca in this situation.

Communication

is key.

That's what Adam would have appreciated.

Yeah.

Season two of Nobody Wants This is streaming now.

Check it out.

That is genuinely what I'm doing this weekend.

I unfortunately have to wait for Ben because he watched season one with me and loved it.

So that's what I'll be doing.

In addition to actually tomorrow, it feels like Friday.

It's not.

I don't know why I'm like wrapping up for the weekend.

I'll see you guys in five minutes.

In five minutes?

Where are you going?

Well, one, we're doing a Patreon.

Yes, we are filming a Patreon after this.

Always become a patron.

But two, we'll see you in five minutes, aka tomorrow.

AKA tomorrow.

And will that be your last day?

I think so.

She thinks so.

Yeah, that's the plan.

Working plan.

That's all she wrote.

That's that's our show, yeah.

That's our show.

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