The Hardest Working Man in Hollywood with Justin Sylvester: Tuesday, November 18th, 2025

Speaker 0 Good morning, girlies. It's the toast.

Speaker 1 It's Jackson Claude and we're your hosts. It's your favorite show, the fast five things you need to know.

Speaker 2 We'll start your day off swirly.

Speaker 1 It's the toast.

Speaker 1 I sound amazing.

Speaker 2 Welcome back to the toast and happy Tuesday. I'm ready to be sat on because my next co-host is former, the artist formerly known as the lady sitter.
It's Justin Sylvester.

Speaker 1 Hello. I'm going to bring that back.

Speaker 2 You better.

Speaker 1 I'm bringing that back. We were working on a show about it right now.
Are you?

Speaker 2 Yeah. The ladysitter, like, if you weren't there for the ladysitter era, you guys were missing out so hard.
You were sitting on ladies, myself being one of them.

Speaker 1 Crazy, right?

Speaker 1 We met on a ladysitter excursion. We did.
We literally met with a bunch of bougie white women.

Speaker 2 Do you know that when you Google ladysitter? Because I actually did this morning to, I was going to do a clue. You know, I've been doing this on clues for my guesses.

Speaker 2 And I ended up doing something about the today show, which I want to talk to you about in a second. But I was going to do something about the ladysitter.

Speaker 2 And Google Gemini says, the ladysitter is a phrase coined by Justin A. Sylvester.

Speaker 1 Bro, put it, give it to me. They did.
Someone give it to me.

Speaker 2 I love that you're wearing your alphabet green. So am I.
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Speaker 1 Drop smarter at 10 a.m.

Speaker 2 That's cute. You're coming straight off the wicked premiere.
Yeah. Straight off of the today show.
We talk about you so much on the toast. I don't know if you know how much we talk about you.

Speaker 2 One, because we love you.

Speaker 1 I love you guys too.

Speaker 2 You're the hardest working man in Hollywood, like for real. bitch and it seems like something is something's bothering me let me say that

Speaker 2 it seemed very obvious to me but i'm smarter than most people so when hoda said i'm leaving this show

Speaker 2 my my thought that minute was like okay

Speaker 2 justin sylvester's time Now NBC said we're gonna do guests and schmests and whatever. I don't think anybody expected this guest thing, Jenna and Friends, to go on for now almost a year.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 You've come on, I mean, since Jenna and Friends, how many times have you filled in for Hoda?

Speaker 1 Oh, I think five times.

Speaker 2 Right. Like, you're clearly a frontrunner.
Hoda's, actually, Andy asked Hoda on Watch What Happens Live, who do you want it to be? And she said, you. Like, she gave you her approval.

Speaker 2 She passed the baton.

Speaker 2 And they still haven't announced you as the official co-host. They still are doing Jenna and Friends.
Like, please give us an update. The toasters, like, we are dying.
It's, it's your job to lose.

Speaker 1 Like, you know, it's so interesting. You know, when I look at that show,

Speaker 1 A, I want it.

Speaker 1 And it would be a great gig for me. And I see everything that you're seeing.
And I saw when Hoda said it.

Speaker 1 But from a producer standpoint, I'm also looking at it and being like, wow, she's getting Scarlett Johansson or Living Amun, like a Michelle Obama.

Speaker 2 Of course.

Speaker 2 Michelle Obama's not going to show up at 6 a.m. every day.
You are.

Speaker 1 I will. But it's so interesting and amazing to see how many people really want to live out that fantasy for a week here or three days here.
So I think for them,

Speaker 1 they're going to see like how long this could go.

Speaker 2 They're still getting A-list talent.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 You know, it's crazy. I don't know if

Speaker 1 I might be too spicy for the today's show.

Speaker 2 No way. You're literally perfect for it.
You are perfect for it. Like your former life as the ladysitter literally led you to this moment.

Speaker 1 Oh, 1,000%.

Speaker 2 It's so you.

Speaker 1 1,000%. But I think if you look at like

Speaker 1 today's show talent, they're safe. Yeah.
They're wholesome. They are.

Speaker 2 You are, by the way.

Speaker 1 No, I am. But I'm also single and younger and gay and in the

Speaker 2 breeds. They need that.

Speaker 1 And I think I bring something very different. Absolutely.
You know, I often look at Gail and I think to myself, even though Gail's older,

Speaker 1 Gail's out in the streets. Yeah.
Gail's at parties. Gail knows people.

Speaker 2 She was at that Chris Jenner party.

Speaker 1 She was at Chris Jenner party. She went to space.

Speaker 2 Oh, right.

Speaker 1 She was at the Bezos wedding.

Speaker 1 Oprah's now her plus one.

Speaker 2 So true.

Speaker 1 Gail is out there. Gail's making connections.
People want to sit with Gail. It's like, you know.

Speaker 2 It's all coming up, Gail.

Speaker 1 It's all coming up, Gail. And at some point, Gail's going to be like, I'm done.
Yeah. You know, so I just am hoping that NBC gives me the space to be culturally that person.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because we don't really have like,

Speaker 1 and I say this like very lightly, like, you know, when people say, I fuck with you you know everyone fucks with Gail yeah it's true she's universally loved which in this climate is so hard so hard

Speaker 1 so goddamn hard but I don't know

Speaker 2 maybe it's this round maybe it's in five years right but it's something is brewing and I feel it yeah and my little score scorpio spidey senses tell me like if it's not this it's gonna be something else yeah of course no you've always like everything you've done has been amazing like when we like I think we thought like for a minute like delipop was it was gonna be it was it and when that ended we were like wait wait and it was so just like a stepping stone for you deli pop was everything

Speaker 2 i want that show back those were the days like i don't know why e couldn't sustain it because the show itself was brilliant when it was you morgan and chrissa like yeah it was perfection and it was what people like me the people who listened to the show it's what we love it's what we need it's talking seriously about not serious things like it

Speaker 2 I don't know how they dropped the ball on that.

Speaker 1 You know what it is? I think for a company like E, and I say this respectfully because I have learned, I've been there for 10 years.

Speaker 1 I think when

Speaker 1 you are brought in by one executive and then another executive wants to come in, they want to put their shows on air. They want to put their people on air.

Speaker 1 And what they do is they kind of kick your show to the side. And that show really did its thing.

Speaker 1 Although we went through three executive changes, five years on air every morning was, I mean, it was lit.

Speaker 2 No, it was iconic.

Speaker 2 it was so good career highlight for me was being a guest on that show it was huge we made the best sign oh we did and i was so skinny and it's oh you were snatched one bound have a bound snatch snatch and by the way people still come up to me today and they're like oh my god daily pop and it's it's interesting because now everyone is looking for shows that can be on on yeah you know digital yep which was daily pop daily pop should have been maybe it was a little early for its time because it should have been the official like daily show of peacock yeah yeah oh my god yeah that would would have been and then you wouldn't have been like confined by like the the cable things you could curse no commercial breaks like you would have yeah honestly bringing back daily pop on peacock great idea free they really should a thousand percent they really should you know what's so crazy i bet you morgan strew it i would give that bitch a atom she would do it and she would just come back she would do it yeah yeah yeah 100 on peacock and it was like premium she would do it she would totally do it and i think chris who would too i think she would too because they had bopped people in and out but you chris and morgan for a while were like the three.

Speaker 1 Yeah, until they started having kids.

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 1 And then it was maternity leave central. Literally.

Speaker 1 Literally, maternity leave central.

Speaker 2 Yes. But that really was, like the three of you was really, it was magic.

Speaker 1 It really was magic. And you know, the funny thing about that show

Speaker 1 is everyone laughs because

Speaker 1 our first call was at 5 a.m. Oh, wow.
5.30. I would get up and do the 5 a.m.
call to make sure the show was intact.

Speaker 1 Then all the girls would get on calls at 6 o'clock. They would get the show rundown.
And then I would get back on a call at 6.30 to talk about what they didn't like and what they did like.

Speaker 1 So every day for five years, we went 365. We took barely any days off.
I was on those phone calls making sure like people like us enjoyed the show.

Speaker 2 Now, what's so funny about you is like, for the most part, you do a lot of TV and most of it occurs very early in the morning. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And some of my favorite memories and so much of the things that that we do together is like we go out, we cocktail, we party.

Speaker 2 And I love your commitment to not letting your early mornings ruin your late nights. Fuck that.

Speaker 2 And when you watch, when somebody watches you on TV, they would never know that you were out the night before. Like, how do you balance? Cause most people wake up at like seven for their jobs.

Speaker 2 You've had a full day by 7 a.m. Today's show, Daily Pop, that's all like 4, 5 a.m.

Speaker 2 How do you balance?

Speaker 2 a good, well-maintained social life, which occurs at night

Speaker 2 with hustling in your career so early on in the mornings.

Speaker 1 First and foremost, you got to live your life.

Speaker 1 Like, that's what it's all about. And being interesting on TV doesn't mean going to bed at 7:30 and, you know, making sure you're up early.

Speaker 1 Like, being interesting on TV is living your life and bringing something to the table.

Speaker 1 And that's why I feel like when I listen to podcasters or I watch people on social, I'm like, you have not gotten out of your house

Speaker 1 and you haven't had a dinner past 7.30 in a very long time. Like, get the fuck out.

Speaker 2 I feel like you're speaking directly to me, but like, I am still freshly postpartum. I love a dinner after 730.
That's okay. I know what you mean.

Speaker 2 But I think some people feel like they have to be like 100% committed to the job for it to succeed and for it to take off. And that means going to bed at seven.

Speaker 2 But if you're trying to be interesting and you're trying to, you know, share what you've got going on, you got to got, you've got to have something going on.

Speaker 1 I literally just had this aha moment. Jeff Lewis and I were having this conversation and he said it at Bravo Con 2.

Speaker 1 He said, when housewives quit their day job, it ruins them.

Speaker 2 Oh, well, absolutely. And then it also puts them in a really tough spot financially because they rely so much on this thing that could be taken away from them at any minute.

Speaker 1 And also when you don't have a day job, you have nothing to come to the table with. You know what I mean? Like, imagine we watch Vicki scream.

Speaker 1 at employees at Codo Insurance answering those white phones like it was 1987 and she worked at MCI with one male. Like that's what it was all about.
That's true. The landline.
The landline.

Speaker 1 And you know, he said this and it made total fucking sense. When these housewives quit their day jobs,

Speaker 1 they become so dependent on the show that it kind of ruins it.

Speaker 2 Absolutely.

Speaker 2 And they're not just like giving, what I find most interesting about housewives is like learning just how, you know, the other half lives, like seeing the lives of these very famous, very wealthy, very

Speaker 2 interesting women. And so when the show becomes their whole life, they stop becoming interesting to me, honestly.

Speaker 1 no, 100%. I also think, and Bravo is going to kill me for this.

Speaker 1 I think housewives should be like a presidential run.

Speaker 2 Wow. Okay.
Elaborate. Like four years.

Speaker 1 For instance, I think that every two or three years,

Speaker 1 if I were Bravo, I would have eight people on staff. I would have six housewives, you know, in the middle, two friends holding it down.

Speaker 1 Every three years someone siphons out and someone new comes in whether it's a housewife or a friend and then in another year the person who went lived for a year or two comes back in and then someone else takes a break goes and lives for a year therapy get a bob meet some new friends get a bob get a just go get a bob get a bob but not a nicole bob from selling sunset just get a bob just a regular bob just a regular bob that bob turned her into a whole different person so funny you know what that's actually a really good call i mean and one of your like best friends in the whole world is Kyle Richards, who has famously been on the wheelhouse size of Beverly Hills for 15 years.

Speaker 2 15 years. 15 years.
She probably could have benefited from a year off every now and then.

Speaker 1 By the way, I think she's tried to take one. Yeah, I think she has tried her hardest to be like, I will take a year off.
Like, let me leave right now.

Speaker 2 But I think they're afraid of getting off the hamster wheel, like worried if they get off, they won't come back.

Speaker 1 I don't think that's it for her. I think what it is for her,

Speaker 1 and I know this for a fact,

Speaker 1 she's a child star. Right, Right.
And when she starts something,

Speaker 1 this was her, this is her way of life for a very long time. You committed to it.

Speaker 1 And I think because she started the show from day one and she's the last OG.

Speaker 1 Is she the last? Yeah, her journey

Speaker 2 jersey's like off air. So yeah, she's the last OG.

Speaker 1 So she, in her mind,

Speaker 1 knows that this is her baby and she can't leave it. So that's, I think that's her hard, the rock, between the hot rock and a hard place with her.

Speaker 2 I've loved seeing you on Housewives over the years. You've really kind of just been a man about town on lots of shows.

Speaker 2 Last night, you're literally coming straight from the wicked premiere, which we're going to talk about.

Speaker 2 It's our top story, interviewing, you know, everyone, including Ari and Cynthia, even though Cynthia was in her very much muted moment.

Speaker 2 Do you like doing red? Like your job entails so many things. And I feel like you're at your best when you're just sitting like this, Jenna and Fred, kikiing.
You're so funny.

Speaker 2 You've so many interesting. Your life is very interesting.
I want to ask you about who you're dating, but you also are so good good at red carpet.

Speaker 2 And red carpet has gotten kind of criticized over the last couple of years because a lot of networks will just kind of pluck people who aren't reporters, influencers, actors, and just sort of throw them on a red carpet.

Speaker 2 And it's resulted in so many sort of yikes,

Speaker 2 butt-clenching moments, Hugh Grant.

Speaker 2 What do you make of that conversation?

Speaker 1 Here's my jam. And I'm going to say this because I know a lot of networks, there are people who work inside those networks that listen to this podcast.
We've got the media girlies.

Speaker 1 First of all, I understand.

Speaker 1 I've been in this game for 10 years. Plus, I know you want a name.

Speaker 1 I know that you think getting somebody who is a name is going to rock this world. And that's okay.
If that's your play, let's do it.

Speaker 1 However, When you get said name, you just need to put someone next to said name who knows how to do the job. To supplement.
To supplement. And by the way, we don't cost as much as said name.
Okay.

Speaker 1 No, no, no.

Speaker 2 Because it's all about budget. It's all about budget.

Speaker 1 And they're like, oh, we have this name. We have this name.

Speaker 1 Sometimes you need to let somebody come in. And like, it's, if you look at every rapper,

Speaker 1 in every rapper in history. There has always been a hype man.

Speaker 1 That hype man keeps that person on beat, keeps that person to know what songs coming on, gets the crowd going so that that person can do their job.

Speaker 2 I love that.

Speaker 1 You always need a hype man.

Speaker 1 The other thing is

Speaker 1 a lot of times these companies

Speaker 1 get these names and they produce them as if they're host.

Speaker 1 And when I'm a TV host, if you say, okay, remember this, this, this, you go from here to there,

Speaker 1 it's a lot of things to remember, but my mind just clicks them in because I've been doing this for

Speaker 1 some of these names don't know that this person has a dry sense of humor. Some people don't know that this person like it's egos.

Speaker 2 It's a lot.

Speaker 1 It's egos. Some stars don't like to talk to other women.
We know those people. So I, you know, run, you know, run game on this.
It's like high school. It's like high school, but it's also like

Speaker 1 It's like cooking. Like you can't just follow one recipe because everybody has their own different things.

Speaker 1 And if you don't have somebody who knows that or who's talked to people in the trenches, because, you know, I met Kelsey on a red carpet

Speaker 1 12 years ago.

Speaker 1 And she leans over and whispers and says, oh, by the way, just FYI, she and her husband are going through a hard thing.

Speaker 1 So like, don't mention the husband or the kids because like, it's a bad thing right now. And I'm like, all right, thank you so much.
But she worked in another network.

Speaker 2 That's a great story. Right.
That was when she's at like ET, right?

Speaker 1 And we passed it down.

Speaker 1 That's how we've gone through life. Right.
Those people, those names, they don't have that passed down information.

Speaker 2 No, you've been hardened. Like you've done it all a million times.
You know what's so funny?

Speaker 2 So Jackie and I always talk about like when we were growing up, every bitch, like when you ask them what they wanted to be, they're like, I want to be the next Juliana Rantic. When I was

Speaker 2 like my first day in college, I was a media major. They go around and it was all women.
And they were like, what do you want to be? Every bitch, Juliana. Juliana Rantic.

Speaker 2 And you really are this generation's Juliana Rantic. So I want to ask you, for all the girls who wanted to grow up and be the next Juliana Rancic, you are.

Speaker 2 Is it as good, as fun as everybody thinks it would be?

Speaker 1 No, Juliana took the money. Oh, yes, she did.
Juliana took the last of the e-budget and fucking ran. She and Ryan C.
Cress. Yep.
Carson Daly had a really good run,

Speaker 1 and he was by himself.

Speaker 1 And then after Carson Daly, there was this throng of people, Juliana, Ryan C. Cress,

Speaker 1 Jason Kennedy, Kat Sadler. Like they were the Victoria Secret Angels.

Speaker 2 So true.

Speaker 1 Fucking broadcast. Yes.

Speaker 2 Pop culture broadcast, fun, easy, light broadcasts. Yes.

Speaker 1 And it was also in a time where, yes, people had cash. Yeah.
People had money. So they lived a whole different life.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 When we came in, it was like, okay, we're going to try to do this on a budget and yada yada yada. Everyone's young.
And

Speaker 1 listen, the money is not as great. But what I will say that we did that I think they never really got into.
Juliana did a lot, but opinion and personality was our bread and butter.

Speaker 1 And we did it and made it different in a different kind of way.

Speaker 1 But I still look at Jason and the Julianas and the Ryan Seacresses and the Carson Daly's, and I'm jealous as can be because they were at the glory.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it was a golden age of entertainment journalism, a thousand percent.

Speaker 1 You couldn't like Carson Daly, like you couldn't fuck with anyone else.

Speaker 2 Oh my God, those were the days.

Speaker 1 Kurt Loader, Carson Daly knew everyone and everything. That's so crazy.

Speaker 2 It's crazy. And he's still out here killing it, hosting the voice.

Speaker 1 Oh, and shout out to Carson Daly. Is he on the TV show? Love that.

Speaker 2 Now, Justin, you're here to join me on a very special day. It's Tuesday.
We're coming up the hills of the Wicked Premiere. We have a lot to talk about.
You were actually there interviewing everyone.

Speaker 2 And it's also Tuesday, which means we do Dear Toasters, our weekly advice segment. So you're going to help me out because the girlies are in need.
Let's do it. Let's dive in.

Speaker 2 Justin, I have a question for you. Are you ready for the Fast Five Stories? Let's do it.
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Speaker 2 Okay, last night was a Wicked Premiere, New York City, everyone was there. Justin was on the red carpet hosting, interviewing everybody.

Speaker 2 But kind of the headline news was that Cynthia Arrivo and Ariana Grande skipped interviews at Wicked. They said it was because Cynthia was on vocal rest.

Speaker 2 So I saw that, but then I also saw you interview them. So I was confused.

Speaker 1 I worked for Universal.

Speaker 1 This is a Universal movie. So they had no choice.
So they gave me one interview, and I've interviewed them a bunch of times, and they know me, and we just were like, come on, let's do it.

Speaker 1 And they did it, and it was amazing.

Speaker 2 And what sort of nuggets of information did they give you that you can share with us? And did you see the movie? Did you stay for the actual screening?

Speaker 1 Have you not seen the movie? No. I've seen it twice.

Speaker 2 Wait, is it even out yet?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 It's a different bitch. Is it? It's a whole different beast.

Speaker 2 How long is it?

Speaker 1 It's not as long as the first one, but it's a totally different movie. Really? It's a darker.
It's a little little darker.

Speaker 1 It's a little deeper. Damn.
It's kind of sad.

Speaker 2 It really is a good movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 And I thought I liked the first one. I love the second one.

Speaker 2 Really? Love the second one. Like a comet pulled for more bit.
I wish I wore pink today. As it passes.
You feel like you're more of an alphabet or more of a Glinda.

Speaker 2 I feel like everybody thinks they're an Alphaba, but when the time comes.

Speaker 1 Everyone's a Glinda.

Speaker 1 Everyone bitches out.

Speaker 2 Okay, so like, I actually think it's so funny. Jack and I were having this conversation about like, are we alphabets or Glinda? And like, I'm an alphabet.

Speaker 1 I'm actually really not someone and I'm not talking about aesthetics like I'm talking about like ethics someone told me the other day you live in a bubble Glinda you're Glinda love that I'm like wait you're right

Speaker 1 so you said like it's amazing the movie oh it's incredible and by the way I don't see movies twice that's not my jam when did you see it first I saw it two weeks ago and it was like at a screening.

Speaker 1 Got it. And I was like, I had plans after the screening.
I was going to go like to dinner with a friend. And then after, I was like, I think I'm sad.
Oh, I think I'll go home.

Speaker 1 I don't think I could go.

Speaker 2 But speaking of dinner with a friend, was it a dinner with a friend who's a man and a boy, boyfriend?

Speaker 1 No, but I did bring him to the screening.

Speaker 2 So you are seeing someone. I've been with him for a year and two months.
And you don't share him online.

Speaker 1 I do not share him online.

Speaker 2 Talk me through your decision.

Speaker 1 I think gay men are pretty wild.

Speaker 1 Interesting. First of all,

Speaker 1 if you have a hot man with a job who's over 6'1.

Speaker 2 Don't tell anyone.

Speaker 1 Don't fucking tell anyone.

Speaker 1 At this point, I'm just like, I don't trust any bitch out there.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? Like the amount of times I have split in people's DMs in my 20s who have

Speaker 1 not respecting boundaries. And I'm sorry.
Yeah, no, no. And I know that's my karma probably coming back for me, but I am never showing you this man.

Speaker 1 People magazine is going to have to cut his head off. Yeah, for the wedding picture.
For the wedding photo.

Speaker 2 Do you feel like the gay community is worse about that than the straight community when it comes to...

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no, no. Okay.
No, no, no, no. I think that they're equal opportunists.

Speaker 1 yeah i agree because you know uh a young hot thing a little little girl she can uh oh my god we hear about it all the time hello jezebel i don't know what it is i think this like twitter only fans i think this generation for sure like respects monogamy like way less it used to be such a big deal it used to be such a big deal yeah but i also think that people it's it's like such a weird thing because everyone's like when you gonna show your man when you're gonna show you man i'm like i don't i don't really know i might be like dolly parton right never never never what does your man make of your job he loves it he's super supportive he does not he's in the hotel business okay so totally different 100 different

Speaker 1 he just thinks it's interesting

Speaker 2 that i hustle like this yeah whereas he goes to work and comes home and comes home yeah that's actually such an interesting like parallel between people who like work to live and people who live to work yeah that's really interesting would you say you live to work or you work to live i think i live to work.

Speaker 1 I think you do too. I live to work.
And I hate to say that because I hate being this broke.

Speaker 2 Right, right.

Speaker 1 Because I just want to chill.

Speaker 2 I know.

Speaker 1 But I feel like I'm 39. I've accepted it.
I've gone to therapy about turning 39.

Speaker 2 You have literally done so much at 39.

Speaker 1 But I feel like I want that one thing that I can sit on for like 40 years.

Speaker 2 But you were literally just saying that, like, in your job, like, I feel like your age and entering your 40s will only benefit you.

Speaker 2 A network would be be like more comfortable giving the job of Hoda to a 40-year-old than a 30-year-old.

Speaker 1 No, I think you're absolutely correct.

Speaker 2 You should start telling people you're 40, right? Like, if you want that job. Maybe I should post like happy 40th.

Speaker 1 Bobby and his, because he has a daughter. Yeah.
Oh, no,

Speaker 1 I'm a stepmom.

Speaker 2 Oh, my God. We need to talk about you being a stepmom.
It's kind of a stepmom. It's kind of a dream.
Am I?

Speaker 1 I'm a stepmom. I know.
And the kid's so good.

Speaker 2 Oh, my God. Wait, that's so cute.

Speaker 1 She's blonde and adorable.

Speaker 2 Do you want to have kids?

Speaker 1 You know, I said if if I didn't have kids by 42, if I didn't meet someone who was like ready to do it by 42, I was going to do it by myself. But honestly, I'm kind of a fill.

Speaker 2 Yeah, like that's kind of perfect.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I know, right?

Speaker 2 You interviewed everybody else from Wicked 2, right? I saw you with Jonathan Bailey, Jeff Goldlum, Michelle, John M. Chu.

Speaker 2 Tell me what you think. And did you see Ethan Slater?

Speaker 1 I saw Ethan Slater.

Speaker 2 With Ari or without?

Speaker 1 Without.

Speaker 2 What do you make of that?

Speaker 1 I kind of love him.

Speaker 2 You do?

Speaker 1 I kind of love the sensitive Broadway type kind of dude. Yeah.
Who's like a real actor, who's unexpected choice. Unexpected choice.
Like I,

Speaker 1 every time I see him, I'm more and more impressed and attracted to him.

Speaker 2 That's extremely interesting. I maybe could get on board if I could get past the circumstances of them coming together.
You know what I mean? The timeline was a little curious.

Speaker 1 By the way, I think everything happens for a reason at this point. And like, you know what?

Speaker 1 if you're doing your thing and i'm doing my thing no you're i feel the same way about dressing trudeau and katy perry okay so i actually like them i love it yeah okay i'm here for it yeah however if i was that canadian wife oh of course

Speaker 2 i would be on a rocket ship to la to talk about it well you've actually seen in person the ari cynthia them interacting in person.

Speaker 2 I think the internet has a lot to say about the closeness, the protectiveness, the kind of weird nature of a lot of their interactions. Um, but you've seen it in person, yeah.
What do you make of it?

Speaker 2 Do you

Speaker 2 come off as weird in person?

Speaker 1 Let me tell you what:

Speaker 1 if you had any doubts that these two people are as close as they are, right?

Speaker 1 Google Ariana fan Singapore.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah, of course, we talked about it last week.

Speaker 1 The way Cynthia Arrivo

Speaker 1 in a vintage John Galeano gown

Speaker 1 steps in front

Speaker 1 of Ariana Grande

Speaker 1 without second guessing one

Speaker 1 thing, forgetting that she too is a huge famous entity and a polly pocket.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah, seriously, skinny as a needle.

Speaker 1 So when she sees this person coming, she looks up, puts herself in between Ariana. And by the way, there are seven security guards around them.
Right.

Speaker 1 She could have been like, I'm not going to fuck this dress up. The way she pulled a solange in the elevator

Speaker 1 on this man, that's when you know these people are close. Because if they were not close,

Speaker 1 she would have took her dress, moved over to the left. Right.
And let her. This is not my mess.

Speaker 2 That's so true. This is somebody else's job.
No, it's very, I feel it's genuine.

Speaker 1 It's genuine.

Speaker 2 I just think it's a little like much.

Speaker 1 But who am I?

Speaker 2 Who am I to say?

Speaker 1 Yeah. You know what? Sometimes I'm like, it might be much, but for them, it's like, it's working.
It works.

Speaker 2 So true.

Speaker 1 You also, don't forget, Ariana is a global superstar. Ryan.
Most global superstars don't like to leave the house because they can't.

Speaker 2 Especially global superstars who have been through sort of the trauma that Ari has been through.

Speaker 1 Yes. So when you are with someone who has probably expressed to you that, oh my God, this is so traumatic for me.
You know, I've been through this thing in the UK and I don't know. It's so scary.

Speaker 1 Yes, I'm holding on to my co-star for dear life. Yeah.
Because you guys don't realize that she is in flight or fight and it's hard for her to be here. Right.

Speaker 1 So I'm going to have my hand on this person. On her finger.
On her finger at all times. At all times.
I'm going to hold space for no one but her.

Speaker 2 Now, another big New York event, the Met Gala, they've released their theme. I love it.
And the exhibit. And everyone's talking about it, but not the theme.

Speaker 2 So on Monday, the Met revealed that the theme for its spring exhibition and then the star-sided fundraiser is costume art, said to examine the centrality of the dressed body.

Speaker 2 So the show will pair approximately 200 garments and accessories with 200 artwork spanning from the Western prehistory, yada, yada.

Speaker 2 Now, in the announcement, everybody was like freaking, because if you go down, it shows Lauren and Jeff Bezos as the sponsors. So I think it's safe to say we will be seeing them at the Met Gala.

Speaker 2 Everyone now thinks that this is some sort of explanation for Lauren's wedding vogue cover. Of course.

Speaker 2 And people are freaking, you know, because they say like celebrities are so holier than thou. Will they all attend an event by the Bezos, who are like these billionaires?

Speaker 2 And we're supposed to hate all the billionaires and it's consumerism, yada, yada. They're all going.

Speaker 1 They're all going.

Speaker 2 Do you think we will see people using their outfits to make a statement like against the Bezos? Even though it seems like the Bezos are in.

Speaker 2 They've been accepted in ways other billionaires have not. And that's all, Lauren.

Speaker 1 This is the most interesting conversation I I have. I have a podcast called The Yestergaze, and my podcast host, Blakely Thornton, who I love, hates them.

Speaker 2 Really? For what reason?

Speaker 1 I think he doesn't like them for the usual.

Speaker 2 With the ethical, like a lot of people, if you take a look at Amazon, the digital footprint, the billionaire, ethical billionaires, I don't like to go down that rabbit hole.

Speaker 2 I prefer to just be jealous of billionaires. Here's my jam.

Speaker 1 As long as I'm still ordering Sinsodyne on fucking Amazon.

Speaker 2 And it's coming that day.

Speaker 1 And it's coming that day.

Speaker 2 That's exactly what I said to Jackie. Amazon has improved my life and on a daily basis continues to benefit me.
Seriously, I can't be mad.

Speaker 1 I can't be mad at people like that. I can't have outrage about somebody whose product I still actively use.
Agreed.

Speaker 1 Target, on the other hand, I can have outrage about it because I don't want to walk in there anymore. I'm done.
Agreed. So when it comes to the Bezos,

Speaker 1 like you really have to zip back and examine why you are upset. Lauren Sanchez did something that we would all do.

Speaker 1 If Jeff Bezos had put his hand on my shoulder when he was single and I was single, guess what? I would have had a $25 million wedding in Venice too.

Speaker 2 And so when Bethany was on the podcast last week, she said the most, I haven't been able to stop thinking about it. She had the most poignant thing about Lauren.

Speaker 1 What? I saw it.

Speaker 2 Yeah, about that Megan Markle. Megan Markle.
Yeah, Megan Markle, Lauren Sanchez is Megan Markle with no rules. Like she married this guy with enormous access.
Obviously, different things.

Speaker 2 You know, Bezos has more of the money. Harry has more of the prestige.

Speaker 2 And Megan, there's so many rules with royalty and and there's so many rules i think megan imposes on herself because she wants you know she carefully curates what people think about her lauren sanchez doesn't give a flying fuck what anybody thinks about her she knew what the money could get her she knew what the access could could give to her and and she just doesn't give a and you know what it's amazing to see the two parallel paths of these two different women 100 and where it's gotten them 100 because i feel like people started out really not liking lauren sanchez and now everybody's kind of come around to her people started out really liking megan markle and now i feel like her q score has gone down oh 100 And it's, you know, what's crazy is Lauren Sanchez is a very nice woman.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I've met her a few times.
Oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 Is she like a party girl?

Speaker 1 She was, yeah, she's in the white lady crew. She is like white lady.
She's in the white lady crew. Yeah, she's like one step out of the white lady crew.
So we have, you know, hung out with her.

Speaker 1 She's always very sweet, always nice. And this was back when she was married to Patrick Weitzel.
Oh. Who's the CEO of WME?

Speaker 1 So Patrick Weitzel was like a major agent in Hollywood.

Speaker 2 But she wasn't a nobody before.

Speaker 1 She wasn't a nobody.

Speaker 2 You might not have heard of her, me included. That doesn't mean she wasn't like a mover and a shaker.

Speaker 1 Her husband was behind the scenes.

Speaker 2 Got it.

Speaker 1 So when she met Jeff Bezos, who's more front-facing, who's more front-facing, you know, she kind of escorted him into this celebrity lifestyle.

Speaker 1 And when people say, oh, she has an easy life, she definitely has an easy life, but she's working.

Speaker 2 Now, like, this bitch is working. Yeah.

Speaker 1 She's getting this man out and about in front and center. And I just, I don't know.
I'm not hating on them outwardly because I feel like everyone's hating on them.

Speaker 2 And they're so unoriginal. Like, I'm sorry.
You know what? Like, you would do it too. You would fucking do do it too.

Speaker 1 You're still using Amazon.

Speaker 2 Of course, I am. Have you done red carpet at the Met Gala where you stand on the stairs? No.
Is that like a goal of yours? No.

Speaker 1 It looks really hard. I don't want to do it.

Speaker 2 And nobody wants to talk to you. Like, it's really not that type of carpet.

Speaker 1 No. I don't want to do it.

Speaker 2 Interesting.

Speaker 1 What I would want to do is where Vogue has that top staircase where everybody talks.

Speaker 2 Oh, and it's like a Vogue YouTube where Emma Chamberlain.

Speaker 1 That's what I want to do.

Speaker 2 You would be

Speaker 1 excellent. That's what I want to do.
Give me the job. Give me the job.

Speaker 2 Whenever Jackie and I are like talking talking about like, oh, who should do like this? We're always suggesting you because you really are this sort of chameleon. I think you would be excellent.

Speaker 1 I would murder it.

Speaker 2 You would murder it. And I do think that a lot of celebrities know you or recognize your face and feel comfortable talking to you.
And that's really what it is at the Met Gal.

Speaker 2 And that's why Lala Anthony was so good. She's friends with everyone.
She's friends with everyone. Everybody was happy to come up and talk to her.
They didn't skip her. She knows everybody.

Speaker 2 She knows everybody. And then the young people, they all know Emma Chamberlain.
So they do a good job, actually, though, of picking people who might not be traditional

Speaker 2 hosts, but I would love to see you at the top of the stairs. And the Chamberlain girl does does a really good job.
She does a great job. And, you know, she's very TikToky.
That's the game.

Speaker 2 You got to play it all. You got to play it.

Speaker 2 But I would love to see you.

Speaker 1 Megan Markle needs a new gay.

Speaker 2 Do you, wait, but first of all, do you think Megan Markle would go is going to the Met Gala? And I don't know why she hasn't gone. It's very her.

Speaker 1 I think now that we have seen her at the Balanciaga and then that's her.

Speaker 1 At Chris Jenner's, I think this is a preview of what's to come. It's only a matter of time.

Speaker 1 I think for her, she needs exposure therapy.

Speaker 2 Yeah, she's definitely like petrified. Yeah.

Speaker 1 She's very skittish. By the way, Megan Marco, I understand why I am with you.
Yeah. I get it, girl.
Like being the only black person in the royal family could be. And that would have been fun.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I stood by that a thousand times. I thought maybe you should have stayed two more years, but it's okay.

Speaker 2 So funny. I actually agree.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Only because I think while it probably would have been really hard for her and I didn't want her to go through that, I think if she had stuck it out and made it out on the other side, it would have been this amazing thing to see this like like American divorced black woman.

Speaker 2 I wish I'm like mad at the potential. And I blame him.
I know the toasters can't hear me talk about this anymore, but just, you know, I blame it not working out on Prince Harry.

Speaker 2 And I think, I think he is the worst person in the world. And I think he didn't protect his wife at all.

Speaker 2 Not to say that the royal family was amazing to her, but he did not prepare his wife at all for what the assumption that his family would just take care of and get her the wardrobe, get her the, that's your fucking job.

Speaker 2 Like go protect your wife. He just sent her out to go meet the queen without telling her how to curtsy.

Speaker 1 No, no,

Speaker 1 I just don't think they, they know.

Speaker 1 I bet you he got out and didn't know how to even make an easy match.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Oh, for sure.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 Like, like, how are you going to set somebody up when you couldn't set yourself up for sure? Your whole goddamn life. Right.

Speaker 1 But I think Megan Markle, A, needs a gay who's going to be like, listen, bitch, you're going to get some hard times. Like, this is going to be hard.

Speaker 1 Like, they are going to make fun of you for six minutes. It happens to everybody.
It does. Look at J-Lo.
When you get to that echelon, Katie Perry, you just got to go through the rough path. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You got to run through it, get some mud in your hair.

Speaker 2 The only way out is to.

Speaker 1 Get through it because if you if you go back you look like it makes it so much worse no no no if you go back and retreat you start over from the beginning so true so what i need you to do is realize that people like all's fair uh-huh people are talking about it yeah but people are watching it yep and they're leaning and they're leaning into like the jokes and they're leaning into it you just need to lean into yourself and i thought she was almost there when she did the Gwyneth Paltrow thing.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I was like, oh, she's doing it.
Yes. She

Speaker 2 wasn't. wasn't.

Speaker 1 And then she retreated back.

Speaker 1 You just got to run through it. You got to run through it.

Speaker 2 But she doesn't have good people around her. You do.
This year.

Speaker 1 I think she'll be with Balantiago. I would love to see her there.
She's going to do it.

Speaker 1 I'm still kind of confused on why they ripped the photos down.

Speaker 2 Oh, Mitchio, me and Bethany were talking about it. I talk about it with every person who comes on the show.
Like, do you have a theory? Because my running theory is that, because you know,

Speaker 2 the photos were removed from the carousel, and then Prince Harry and Megan's team released a statement saying, you know, we didn't sign the consent forms.

Speaker 2 And then the Kardashians' camp said, what are you talking about? There were no consent forms for

Speaker 1 birthday party. Right.

Speaker 2 Now, I think they were filming the birthday party for the show. You have to sign a release.
Megan and Harry didn't sign it because they didn't want to be on the show, which is totally understandable.

Speaker 2 And I think they thought that would protect them from images.

Speaker 2 I think they just, in a shallow sense, did not like the photo. You could see Harry's bald spot.
Like, I think it was more of a shallow thing. Well, this is the problem.

Speaker 1 Again,

Speaker 1 right. Lean in, just be human.
Yeah, you're there, baby.

Speaker 2 But it doesn't have a bald spot. Beyonce's there, baby.

Speaker 1 Now start fucking neutrophil.

Speaker 2 Exactly. Exactly.
Beyonce was there. You have no excuse.
You have no excuse.

Speaker 1 She took the photo.

Speaker 2 And the thing is, Beyonce was at the party, and we only know that because

Speaker 2 not because we saw a photo of her. So Beyonce evaded paparazzi, which means if you wanted to go to the party and not be seen by the public, you could have done that because Beyonce did it.

Speaker 2 Megan and Harry chose to get out of the car in front of the paparazzi. They wanted to be seen and they wanted people to know that they were there.

Speaker 1 It's a control thing.

Speaker 2 Yeah, which of which they are just not doing a good job.

Speaker 1 But I

Speaker 1 keep on going back to this.

Speaker 1 If she could be

Speaker 1 that

Speaker 1 yeah she really could like she could be that i just want one meeting with her i know i want one weekend

Speaker 1 i want one weekend i'm gonna come to montecito we're gonna cook a little bit we're not gonna we're gonna get to know each other on friday on saturday we're gonna rent a room at sanisidro ranch and we're gonna talk it out yeah and we're gonna get rough yep and we're gonna get tough it's not gonna be pretty it's not gonna be pretty but then on sunday we're gonna go back to harry we're gonna tell him what we came up with deep breaths deep breaths and we're gonna stay in each other's lives.

Speaker 2 I love that.

Speaker 1 We're going to stay in each other's lives.

Speaker 2 He's gay. Absolutely.
Our third story is that Cher is returning to SNL. She's going to be the musical guest in December.

Speaker 2 And it's the first time in nearly 40 years that she is returning to the SNL stage. The Grammy winner is set to be the musical guest on December 20th episode of the long-running NBC sketch show.

Speaker 2 And they announced on Monday the final host and musical guest for 2025, Ariana Grande is hosting the episode that Cher is performing. Boom.
Yeah, that's pretty major. Get ready.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 You know what I watched last night? The Eddie Murphy documentary.

Speaker 1 Oh, everyone says it's great.

Speaker 2 Oh my God, it was so excellent. Like, and Ben is a huge Eddie Murphy fan.
I love Shrek. Like, I'm not, I wouldn't, like, if you said my who's your favorite comedian, I wouldn't name Eddie Murphy.

Speaker 2 Now that I know him and he's so not what you would expect, like he, you know, and also, I don't know how old he is, but they were talking about him. Like, he was around in like the Judy Garland days.

Speaker 2 Like, he's old.

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 2 I was shocked when he was like showing the pictures because he looks maybe 50. I think he's like 70.

Speaker 2 He was talking about how like the height of his career was like old Hollywood and everyone was like doing blow. And he really, he says he never smoked, he never did drugs, he never drank.

Speaker 2 I just, I didn't know him in a personal sense. I didn't expect him to have like such a good head on his shoulders, but he told this whole story about SNL and David Spade.

Speaker 2 He didn't go back for years because they made a mean joke about one of his movies that popped, which just reminded me. Highly recommend the documentary.
I just wanted to tell you.

Speaker 1 I can't wait to watch it.

Speaker 2 It was excellent.

Speaker 1 I cannot fucking wait.

Speaker 2 But Cher is returning to SNL. What do you think of it? Will you be tuning in? Do you tune in to SNL?

Speaker 1 I'm tuning in. Yeah.
I'm tuning in for Cherry and Ariana because they're going to do some skits together.

Speaker 2 Do you think she's she's going to sing old music?

Speaker 2 Loki releases new music sometimes. Did you ever hear a Christmas song?

Speaker 1 I think she's going to do old music.

Speaker 2 I mean, like, I hope.

Speaker 1 No, she's going to do old music. I think Cher gets the game.
Like, when I looked at her on the Victoria Secret fashion show, she was like, here's my classics.

Speaker 2 Yep.

Speaker 1 She's also dating a nice young

Speaker 2 man.

Speaker 1 She's trying to show off.

Speaker 2 Yep, yep, yep.

Speaker 1 So she's going to be back in that Bob Mackey ass out at 70, 80, doing her damn thing.

Speaker 2 So it's going to be in December.

Speaker 1 December 20th.

Speaker 2 Which is the Christmas show. Yeah.
I hope to God that Cher plays her new Christmas song. Did you ever hear it?

Speaker 1 No, play it.

Speaker 2 Okay, let me tell you, it is the best song. When viral on TikTok, when it came out, me and my sister Margot became

Speaker 2 DJ, play a Christmas song. I wanna feel you dancing all night long.
It's cold out there, but it's warm in here. And that's the only thing I want this year.
It's

Speaker 2 it. It's like a DJ EDM.
It is a house song. It's incredible.
Damn. And then I I went to Jingle Ball where weirdly Cher was performing and she's singing it.
Me and Margaret were dying.

Speaker 2 It's the best song. You lost your mind.
I lost my mind. I would love for her.

Speaker 2 I don't know if she has like new music coming out because mostly people use SNL as like a platform to release and promote new music. Yeah.

Speaker 2 But I want, I want DJ play a Christmas song and then like Believe.

Speaker 1 You know, by the way, I'll take Believe.

Speaker 2 Of course.

Speaker 1 Any way I can get it.

Speaker 2 Did you ever see the documentary Cher and the Loneliest Elephant?

Speaker 1 No. Okay.

Speaker 2 So when I was at Black.

Speaker 1 How much time do you have?

Speaker 2 Okay, so let me tell you, when I was was at Brian Kelly's house, we were like spending the weekend together. It was snowing.
We got snowed in.

Speaker 2 We were like drinking wine and we slowly, we wanted to watch something silly. So we turn on this, I think we wanted to like listen to Cher or whatever.
We started share at Apple TV.

Speaker 2 And Cher and the Loneliest Elephant came up.

Speaker 1 And it's this documentary.

Speaker 1 It's about share

Speaker 1 funding this elephant that's released out of

Speaker 2 Cambodia or something. So she like hears about, I think actually it's Pakistan.
She hears about this elephant. There's a zoo that's closing down in Pakistan.

Speaker 2 And it's one of these like horrible zoos, you know, where they don't, and they've just sort of like abandoned, there's an elephant there, but the zoo closed down and there's no

Speaker 2 plan to get the elephant. They were just going to leave him there.
And Cher heard about it. It was like all of her social media.
We have to save this elephant. So Cher saved the elephant.

Speaker 2 She got a cargo plane. And the journey is about like this really cute veterinarian.
You have to get the elephant ready. You can't just put an elephant on a cargo plane for many hours.

Speaker 2 He's got to prepare. And he was like really, you know, malnourished.
By the time the documentary ended, me and Brian were hysterically crying.

Speaker 2 And then they're like playing believe at the very end, but he gets to like this new rescue thing in Africa. Oh my God.
I highly recommend it. I don't even know where you guys could watch it.

Speaker 2 It was the most random documentary. It was the best thing I've ever seen in my life.
Have you been to Africa? No, I haven't.

Speaker 1 Bitch, you have to go.

Speaker 2 You've done like Safari. I went with Jamie Tish.
Oh, so you went good. I went good.

Speaker 1 I went great. And we stayed in Kenya for one night.
Wow. And

Speaker 1 this guy was telling us that these elephants come back. They raise these elephants from babies.
Like they rescue them. They're orphans.
They raise them. They release them.

Speaker 1 And then every now and then, like once a year,

Speaker 1 they'll come back with a baby to show the baby.

Speaker 2 Oh, wait, I'm going to cry.

Speaker 1 So they can meet the people.

Speaker 2 Like my foster parents. Yes.

Speaker 1 And then they leave again.

Speaker 2 Oh, that's beautiful.

Speaker 1 And it's like, they, and they're still tagged, so they know who they are.

Speaker 1 So like this elephant would go away for like three years and come back with like a cub and be like, hey, I just wanted to show you guys.

Speaker 2 I would lose my mind. That's so sad.

Speaker 1 I would lose my mind.

Speaker 2 Do you ever see, also, there's a documentary called an apology to elephants? Yes. You've seen it?

Speaker 1 I've seen it.

Speaker 2 I mean, I always bring that up. Nobody knows what I'm talking about.
Wait, it's literally heartbreaking, just like how humans have mistreated elephants. This conversation from Cher has taken a turn.

Speaker 1 Let's go back to the slides up. Cher.

Speaker 2 Cher. What do you make? They also announced like a couple of other people, but like, who cares? Can't wait.
Can't wait.

Speaker 1 And also, like, Ariana and Cher are going to sing a song together.

Speaker 2 They have to, at least in a sketch.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And by the way, Ariana's so good on SNL.

Speaker 2 She's so, I mean, her vocal abilities, like people don't give her enough credit because I feel like they know her pop star era, now they know her Glenda era, but like vocally, she's probably one of the best vocalists.

Speaker 2 She's up there with Adele. I can't take it.

Speaker 1 That's a hot take. I can't wait for you to see.

Speaker 2 Wicked.

Speaker 1 Wicked because pop star Ariana comes out a little bit. Really? And no one stopped it.

Speaker 1 And it's really good. That's amazing.
Oh, wow.

Speaker 2 You're making me excited.

Speaker 1 I'm telling you, you're going to be like, wait, that wasn't her Glenda voice. That was her Black Ariana voice.
And I'm here for it.

Speaker 2 Yes, Blackiana.

Speaker 1 Blackiana.

Speaker 2 Are you familiar with Blackiana's era? Yay!

Speaker 1 That was so funny. Focus on me.

Speaker 2 Yes,

Speaker 1 focus on me.

Speaker 2 All right, our fourth story: kind of sad news affecting some people you know. Kathy Hilton and Sutton Strek's homes were burglarized while they were at BravoCon.

Speaker 2 So both Kathy Hilton and Sutton's LA homes were burglarized over the weekend while they were attending BravoCon 2025 in Vegas.

Speaker 2 The LAPD confirms to page six that burglary reports were completed for two break-ins on the blocks where the stars' homes are located.

Speaker 2 A police spokesperson told page six that the first burglary was reported around noon on Saturday, and the report said that the front door had been left open, but a building search was conducted with negative results, meaning that the suspects had fled by that point.

Speaker 2 Maybe like the alarm went off. Stratch's dog walker was the one who called 911 in the afternoon after coming back to a broken window.

Speaker 1 Oh my God, I need to text Kathy.

Speaker 2 The police spokesperson confirmed that the second break-in occurred around midnight. They reported that Rick Hilton was physically in the home at the time of the break-in.

Speaker 2 He called 9-1-1 that night, saying that there were three burglars. However, we're told that no one was home at the time of either incident.
Okay, so it's a little unclear. It's a little unclear.

Speaker 2 It's also unclear if anything was taken. I'm sure we'll know more.
I'm sure this will be a part of, hopefully cameras, you know,

Speaker 2 went up. That's so scared.
That happens so much in LA, especially with celebrities whose schedules are like somewhat public. So people know when they're not physically, that's like the bling ring.

Speaker 2 They knew when Justin Timberlake wasn't going to be home.

Speaker 1 Also, like, you have to be really careful. I see a lot of social media and I've, I, I don't follow them, but I see them that do star homes and where they are and what they look like.

Speaker 2 It comes up for me all the time it comes up for me all the time and i'm like i don't need to know where niki minaj lives and neither should the public agreed and that's like you know the we live in this great country freedom of the press i think it's called like the freedom of information act like all of this is public record um that always gives me the willies and i think like specifically social media influencers don't do a good enough job because like celebrities Everyone knows where they live, but celebrities have like millions and millions of dollars and they do have like these security things in place.

Speaker 2 Influencers who are like have so many people watching them and are so, you know,

Speaker 2 like not careful about sharing like details about their lives and they show their fancy cars and their bags. It gives me such a pit.

Speaker 1 And by the way, half that shit's fake, but you know, you set yourself up for that. Like, you know, stop showing the fake shit online because now people are going to think it's real.

Speaker 1 Like, you can't do that shit. Yeah.

Speaker 1 People are, after Kim's robbery, I thought people would wake up a little bit.

Speaker 1 And again, not that it's Kathy and

Speaker 1 Sutton's fault.

Speaker 2 There's nothing they could have done here. Like, they had to go to BravoCon for their jobs.
Everybody knew that they would be leaving.

Speaker 2 and like it's just so crazy how common i feel like we're always reporting on a story about like a celeb house being burgled in la it's so crazy shit doesn't happen like this in new york no especially also now beverly hills it's kyle who's been burglarized kathy sutton literally it's like sort of a rite of passage everyone oh my god erica was she burglarized yes remember one time oh yeah yeah yeah insane insane no so scary it's so fucking scary thank god i'm broke

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Speaker 2 All right, our fifth and final story is a little update in a story that's about 35 years old. Sorry, 31 years old.
OJ Simpson Estate has now agreed to pay victim Ron Goldman's family $58 million

Speaker 2 31 years after the murder. So he's finally agreed.
Fred Goldman, who's Ron Goldman's dad,

Speaker 2 while OJ was acquitted of the murder, we all know, if the glove don't fit, the Goldman and Nicole Brown Simpson families were both, they both filed wrongful suits against OJ in 1995 and were awarded more than $33 million.

Speaker 2 But O.J. Simpson's estate only paid a very small portion of the amount that was ordered.

Speaker 2 And now they're being forced to pay it because months later, Ron Goldman's dad, Fred, filed a claim for $58 million

Speaker 2 with interest

Speaker 2 for the money that he was owed and then the money that, you know, the penalties and the interest. And he's finally,

Speaker 2 I mean, Ron Goldman's dad, like, always makes me cry, like, especially in that

Speaker 2 Ryan Murphy recreation. It's just.

Speaker 1 The fact that this man still has to fight for this 31 years later and can't put this to bed

Speaker 1 because it's disgraceful.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and I feel like he hasn't known peace since his son died.

Speaker 2 Like, obviously, your son dying is like the worst thing that could ever happen to you in the whole world, but it's like, it always comes back.

Speaker 2 Like the Ryan Murphy thing, it introduced a whole new generation to this case, people who weren't alive for it. Now this, it's also crazy that like

Speaker 2 he was not found guilty,

Speaker 2 but he got sued for a wrongful death. Like, how can it be both?

Speaker 1 That's where the justice system is so. So fucked up.
Yeah. You know, and part of like, honestly, like, if you, These celebs do this sometimes too.
They'll sue people for a dollar. Right.

Speaker 1 Just to make a point. Gwyneth.
You Gwyneth. Ski.
Lost a day of skiing. You owe me a dollar.
Half a day. Half a day.
You owe me a dollar.

Speaker 1 To make this point, Ron Goldman's dad didn't really do this for the money. No.
What he did it for was to prove that OJ had done this. And if he could do it in a civil right, it's something.

Speaker 1 It's something. He would have to say he lost his suit for a wrongful death.
Right.

Speaker 1 But when you don't pay it and you think you're above the law for 31 years, you can't close that chapter of your your life.

Speaker 2 It's so crazy that O.J. Simpson just like walks around.

Speaker 1 That's why I did. He's already died, right? He died.

Speaker 2 But like for, he went, got out of prison for something totally different and was just around for a couple of years like golfing. Like that was the crazy, making TikToks.

Speaker 1 Making TikToks, but also like.

Speaker 1 I think O.J. Simpson, and I don't say this in defense of him, was a pure narcissist.

Speaker 2 Oh, he was a deeply twisted individual.

Speaker 1 He was a deeply twisted individual that probably had some CTE.

Speaker 2 Oh, for sure.

Speaker 1 That was undiagnosed, that went on top of the narcissism, and just thought he would just walk around and play golf in Florida. Shit goes down in Florida.

Speaker 2 That's so true. I just got back.
Shit goes down in Florida. Can I tell you something also from the Eddie Murphy documentary that made me really laugh?

Speaker 2 So he was saying when he was a kid, he definitely, he didn't know it at the time, but he had OCD.

Speaker 2 He would get out of bed like five or six times in the night every 10 minutes to make sure the oven was off. And he didn't know at the time.
Nobody in his family knew.

Speaker 2 It was just like this thing he had to do because it would be kept up. It kept him up at night.
I think the oven's on, even though 10 minutes before he just checked to make sure it's off.

Speaker 2 Then he's sitting around watching like the local news and they did a segment on OCD. And that's how he figured out that that's what he had.

Speaker 2 And he was like, in that moment, I forced myself to stop because I thought it was just like this weird quirky thing that I did, not a mental illness. He figured it out.

Speaker 2 He was like, I did not want to be mentally ill. I literally forced myself to stop.
Holy shit. It was such a crazy story.
It was a very crazy documentary.

Speaker 2 And they really could have done without like the last 10 minutes. I got so bored.
But up until that point, it was. Perfect.
Like I'm really, I'm very tough on celebrity documentaries.

Speaker 2 I can't wait to see it. I talk about it all the time because not every celebrity needs a documentary.
Not every celebrity needs multiple documentaries, Demi Demi Lovato.

Speaker 2 And then sometimes they're just not good.

Speaker 1 But when they're good, when they hit, when Charlie Sheen hit, Charlie Sheen's was excellent.

Speaker 2 Gaga 5'2.

Speaker 2 Kenny Perry, part of me. That was also part concert.
Love that.

Speaker 1 Listen, Charlie Sheen.

Speaker 1 It was amazing. I wish I knew him back then.
I know. I wish I had like smoked a little something with crack, yeah.
Just to say I smoked a little crack with Charlie Sheen back in the cut.

Speaker 1 He was so raw. Yeah.
I read the book. You did? I fucking read the book.

Speaker 2 What is your best celebrity memoir?

Speaker 1 My favorite celebrity memoir.

Speaker 2 Jessica Simpson's was amazing.

Speaker 1 You know, whose was really good. Who? Angelica Houston's.
Really?

Speaker 2 No, I just...

Speaker 1 The last one I read was Jessica Simpson. The shit Jack Nicholson put her through.
Oh, my.

Speaker 2 Actually, I also read Keenan's. Thompson? Yeah.
It wasn't my favorite, but it was pretty good. There were little nuggets in there.

Speaker 1 oh my god jeanette mccurdy oh of course

Speaker 2 so by the way jeanette mccurdy put me on the keen and thompson so i started jeanette mccurdy and then i started reading like a bunch of child stars i also read josh pecks which was very good jeanette mccurdy's oh man that can be up and every

Speaker 1 teeth listen the teeth the teeth falling out the teeth all yeah do not read Jeanette McCurdy's. Listen to it.

Speaker 2 Oh, I read it.

Speaker 1 Oh, it's in her voice. Oh, wow.
And it is, I was in Sandra Pay. I'm not joking to you.
At a fucking club in the middle of the day with one ear point,

Speaker 1 dancing with my right ear, getting the tea with my left ear. Oh my God.
Jeanette McCurdy had me stuck. I couldn't leave the beach without finishing this chapter, bitch.

Speaker 2 Chilling.

Speaker 1 There was a man trying to make out with me right here. And I was fucking

Speaker 1 into the child abuse in here.

Speaker 1 It's wild, but the way she writes it and the way she talks about it is so unbelievable. They're making a TV show about it.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and they should. She's an excellent writer.

Speaker 1 She's an excellent writer. And poor girl, had her whole life taken from her.

Speaker 2 Jesus Christ. I mean, fucking crazy.

Speaker 1 Fucking wild.

Speaker 2 That was definitely probably the craziest. Jessica Simpson, the first half of her memoir is really crazy.
She grew up in like deep Bible belt and it's all about that.

Speaker 2 And usually I don't like when people talk about their childhood. It's like, I don't give a fuck.
Tell me about like when you're famous. Oh my God, no, it was crazy.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it was really, it's very long. I'm doing it.
All right. Dear Toasters, our weekly advice segment.
The girls write in and we try to help them.

Speaker 2 If you guys want to write in, email us dear toasters at gmail.com or head over to our website, the toastpodcast.com. Okay, good morning.
My husband has the opportunity to take over his dad's business.

Speaker 2 This would be about a 15x increase in salary to seven figures plus more flexibility than what my husband currently has. And that's something we both desire for our family.

Speaker 2 I personally stopped working when I had a baby. I don't know if I always want to be a stay-at-home mom, but this career change for my husband means I could do whatever I want.

Speaker 2 The problem is that we have to move to his hometown in the south, somewhere I don't see myself living, and it's a 10-hour drive to my family.

Speaker 2 We always talked about moving closer to family, but I figured it would be my family. I like his family.
They can also drive me nuts. He would love to be near his family, though.

Speaker 2 I hate the idea of feeling like we're just repeating my husband's life. He sees no problem with that, of course, because he loved his childhood.

Speaker 2 Do I need to just let go and be thankful for what this would mean? Am I being selfish, XO, an East Coast swirling?

Speaker 1 Let go, honey. Of course.

Speaker 2 15X, and this is not even a question.

Speaker 1 15x. Bitch, you had me at 15x.

Speaker 2 Of course. I didn't even listen to anything you said afterwards.

Speaker 1 I clicked on it. 15x.

Speaker 2 No, and by the way, it is nice to be around family. Yes, it would be better if it was yours, but like, is the opportunity for 15x near your family? No, it's near his family.
Babe. Sorry.

Speaker 2 You're going to be fine. You lose.
Like, sorry. Yeah, you lose.

Speaker 1 Have you seen the news? Have you seen what snap benefits are happening right now?

Speaker 2 It's so true. 15x.
The money.

Speaker 1 Take the lifestyle. Take the, like, you don't have to ask anybody to do anything.
You could fly to see your family with all five of your kids.

Speaker 2 No, and like, obviously, financial security is so amazing, right? It's like really a feeling you can't put a price on.

Speaker 2 And I think also when you have a kid, like, you know, being kept up at night about money is like the worst feeling in the world.

Speaker 2 Being kept up about money at night, like for you and your family, is an even worse feeling. Like you just had a baby.

Speaker 2 I don't think you can actually put a price on the peace of mind having financial security gives you. Sorry, like I'm, I'm always, I am one thing about me, I am always gonna choose the money.

Speaker 1 Okay, same here. But I'm reading between the lines here.
Okay. Because she didn't say everything she wanted to say.
I don't think her husband's gay. I don't think her husband's gay.

Speaker 1 I think she's not very fond of his family.

Speaker 2 Well, of course.

Speaker 1 So let me give you a little tidbit here.

Speaker 1 If your husband's going to take this job, because I'm reading you, like I think I'm reading you, because I know women,

Speaker 1 you need to be in charge of where and how you live. Yes, absolutely.
If your husband says we're moving to X, Y, and Z, Louisiana, Alabama, yada, yada, yada.

Speaker 2 Same block as my family. I don't think so.

Speaker 1 I don't think so. We will be moving 30 minutes away because this is where I feel comfortable and I have enough space

Speaker 1 for everybody else. Absolutely.
So take it one step further and be in charge of finding the home and stand your ground in saying that I need to live here. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And make sure to harp on the fact that like you're doing this for him. So you say, babe, like, listen, your dreams are coming true.

Speaker 2 So let me be the one to choose the house and the neighborhood and the school zone and everything.

Speaker 2 Love that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And by the way, in the south, let me let you know something.

Speaker 1 30 minutes, 25 minutes. Yeah.
It's far.

Speaker 2 It's a lifetime. Yes.
Oh. Yes.
It's land. It's

Speaker 1 in the south. By the way, LA.

Speaker 2 Because you're from Louisiana, right? Louisiana.

Speaker 1 30 minutes in LA. I'm like, I'll think about it.
I don't know if I can really make that happen. 30 minutes.

Speaker 2 30 minutes in LA is also like five miles, but so much traffic. So much traffic.
30 minutes in like a landlocked flyover state. It's 50 miles.
Is literally 30 miles.

Speaker 1 It's really crazy. Yeah.
It's really crazy. And by the way, they're not coming to your house.

Speaker 2 No, right? Love that. They're not coming to your house.

Speaker 1 Yeah, buy a small house.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah. Do not come.

Speaker 1 Jack out. No, buy a big fucking house 30 minutes away.
Love that.

Speaker 2 All right, next up. Hi, guys.
My best friend invited my husband and I to her 30th birthday party. It was a hibachi open bar.

Speaker 2 We were told we didn't need to bring anything, but she texted me the next day asking me to pay her $200 to cover dinner expenses. Context, you know, is important.
They make a lot of money.

Speaker 2 I would say millions, I dare. Is this crazy? Absolutely.

Speaker 1 I just had this happen to me. Did you?

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Where, give me the circumstances.

Speaker 1 A friend of mine's boyfriend planned a birthday dinner for the friend.

Speaker 2 For the friend.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 he,

Speaker 1 we went it was a very nice dinner it's very civilized i bought a nice gift for like 200 bucks nice um because i in my mind thought oh dinner was gonna be you know picked up and then the next day we got the venmo and by the way i'm not mad at the venmo

Speaker 1 i think that the presentation i think i think the conversation needs to happen um i'm a little mad at the Venmo in general.

Speaker 2 Ben and I, this happened to Ben and I, and I feel like literally it was years ago. We talk about it all the time because it was the craziest thing ever.

Speaker 2 like if someone especially like if your friend is being showered by their partner it's on the partner I'm sorry to figure it out yeah

Speaker 2 and if you are gonna make it this sort of like potluck community event you gotta let me know at least also like say dranks are on me yeah like are like let me bring something

Speaker 1 yeah yeah I would have loved it if the partner was like, hey, I have a fixed menu. I'm going to get dinner, but I know y'all are alcoholics.

Speaker 2 So bring a bottle.

Speaker 1 Bring a bottle or drinks. You guys are, you guys cover drinks.
Yeah, you guys cover drinks. Or, you know, I have appetizers and four bottles of wine on the table.
But if you want anything else,

Speaker 1 please. Like, you know what I mean? Like, I think at my big age.

Speaker 2 Well, that's the other thing. At a certain point, maybe when we're all like 16, 17, even college, young 20s, sure, we're all living, you know, on the heels of our ass.
We can all chip in. Yeah.

Speaker 2 But everyone's getting married. We're buying houses.
Throw your own fucking birthday party. I'm sorry.
Like you're 40 or whatever.

Speaker 2 Not Not my fucking problem.

Speaker 1 Just do it.

Speaker 2 I have my own bills. Just do it.
Just do it, Nike.

Speaker 1 And I wouldn't have brought a $200 gift knowing that I would have to pay $250.

Speaker 2 Absolutely. And I do love my friends.
Of course, it's not about that. It never is about that.
It's just about common courtesy.

Speaker 1 Thank you.

Speaker 2 I'm sorry that happened to you. That sucks.
Our third and final submission. Hi, I'm a first-time boy mom due in March.
I'm starting to plan my baby shower.

Speaker 2 My husband and I have kept the news off social media, but we've told friends and family in person for the most part.

Speaker 2 Except my husband hasn't told any of his friends, and he's not planning on inviting them to the baby shower. I know he's excited about the baby, but is it just me or is this fucking weird?

Speaker 1 Straight men are weird.

Speaker 2 I know. That's actually a really important caveat.

Speaker 1 Straight men are fucking weird. There's a straight white man sitting behind this and he's just nodding.
And he's just nodding. They're fucking weird.
By the way, just so you know,

Speaker 1 if you didn't force your husband to write down every address for your wedding, you would have not seen anyone on the side. And it's not because he doesn't care.
He didn't love you or he didn't care.

Speaker 1 He just didn't care about that shit.

Speaker 2 I do think it's weird. I think there could be like a plausible explanation.
I think a lot of people are very superstitious. Perhaps, is your husband Jewish? Jewish people are very superstitious.

Speaker 2 They don't even like to say it until the baby's born. Like you'll be walking around and there's a religious pregnant woman.
You're not even supposed to be like, oh, how are you feeling?

Speaker 1 Oh, is that why you were so very superstitious?

Speaker 2 Yes, very superstitious. Like, you don't do baby showers.
So maybe he's superstitious. I don't know.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 It's weird, especially if you're having a shower and you're telling people like straights are fucking weird.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I don't identify.
The bros. You know, I'm a power bottom.
Oh,

Speaker 1 I know you are a power fucking bottom. A Dom power bottom.
Yeah, so which is like unheard of.

Speaker 2 When I was like in college, I had this internship and there was this really fun gay guy named Jason who like we were like best friends at the internship.

Speaker 2 And he basically like gave me a quiz and he was like, tell me about like what you're like in your relationship, your personality. And he diagnosed me as a power bottom.

Speaker 2 And ever since then, I tell every like gay person I meet that I'm a power bottom. And they're like, you're totally

Speaker 1 a dom power bottom. though.
Add dom in front of that.

Speaker 2 Okay, what's dom?

Speaker 1 Dom

Speaker 1 is

Speaker 1 dominant. Dominant.
Yeah, okay. Very, like a dominant power bottom.
Like, right. You know, most power bottoms are very, you know, bossy.

Speaker 2 Submissive. But most bottoms, you mean?

Speaker 1 Most like, most like power bottoms. If you're a power bottom, you're only bombing it.
Okay, okay.

Speaker 2 But I thought it also meant like you're also like bossy and in charge.

Speaker 1 No, that's a dom power. Dom power bottom.
Okay. You're a dom power bottom.
Okay, I love that.

Speaker 2 I think that should be today's title.

Speaker 1 Dom Power Bottom. Now there's an Obama bottom.
There's a what? Obama bottom. Meaning? The biggest bottoms ever.

Speaker 1 So that's Bubba Dom Power Bottom.

Speaker 2 And what's the difference?

Speaker 1 You don't want to know the Obama bottoms. You know what? You're right.

Speaker 1 You don't need to know anything about the Obama bottom.

Speaker 2 What would you say you are?

Speaker 1 I'm a nice versatile man.

Speaker 2 Yes, first queen.

Speaker 1 I like it here. I like it there.
I like it everywhere. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm a classy, versatile man.

Speaker 2 That is so funny.

Speaker 1 I'm ambidextrious.

Speaker 2 I love that. A radio NLFG.

Speaker 1 I love that. I love you.

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