National Toast Day: Thursday, February 27th, 2025

I sound amazing. I do sound amazing.
If you're not swirling your finger in the air when you hear, we'll start your day off swirly. I don't know if you're.
You're not living life to the fullest. 1,000%.
Welcome back to the toast. Hey, Jacks, how you doing? Hey, Clurd.
I'm good. Happy to be back at the toast with you.
We've got a lot to do today. I'm like very excited for a lot of things to talk about.
Watched Summer House last night. Me too.
Endeavored to watch a little more lib. Didn't happen, really.
Okay, it happens. Didn't happen in a meaningful way.
Devoid of meaning. I too have a lot of things I need to cover.
I actually wrote them down and a little note on my phone. Okay.
One Summer House, obviously we both watched, not us like being the main characters. That's one.
Two, I wanted to update everyone. Jackie and I have made the executive decision to upload our theme song to Spotify.
I really like, I pushed and pushed because I need it on repeat. It has on its way.
Two to five business days, they say. So just monitor that.
We'll let you guys know your kids can listen to it in the car. And I do think that this is the beginning of like a beautiful musical journey for us.
Because now that we have like and we have our own official like artist page. I did the whole thing.
So once we have our own page on Spotify, like what's stopping us from releasing original music covers, things of that nature? We have an artist page. We have a producer.
We have a songwriter, Becca. We have a distribution channel.
Like what are we doing? Yeah. We also, we have original songs.
We've been working on our songwriting for years. I keep running away with you to dance with your heart.
Yeah, we'll have to go back to that episode to hear this original song that we wrote.

So that was the first thing.

The second thing was,

I don't know if you know what today is.

Do you know?

Thursdays, February 27th.

Did we say like something like a year ago remind us?

No, no, no, no.

The day before February 28th.

No.

What is it?

It's National Toast Day. Oh oh my gosh which also coincides quite poetically with national chili day we're living in a simulation now i think that like national days are like the lowest form of human communication like the lowest form of form of content.
Yeah. Like when I was a social media intern, my job was like literally making graphics for like national margarita day.
No, when you work in social media, national days like are your- Are your bread and butter. Saving grace.
There's nothing better than a national margarita day. And the websites that like, what's the word I'm looking for? Aggregate all the days.
So like you could just pull up, be like, all right, what should I do for work today? Oh, it's National Lemons Day. It's National Muffins Day.
But it is National Toast Day. And if we're not going to acknowledge that, like who will? That's so true.
And if we're not going to acknowledge a National chili day like literally who would right I don't know so I did want to acknowledge the space that we are in and you know kind of honor the national calendar in that way by the way speaking of national margarita day did you see that lifetime is doing a sponsored movie with chilies and it's called like it all happens on National Margarita Day. Is it a spoof or it's like a real movie? No, it's like a real movie about like two people who connect at Chili's on National Margarita Day.
Unless like what I saw was a parody, but there was scenes filmed. I feel like it's a way to make news, but they probably did film a bunch of stuff, but I don't think there's a feature film, like an hour and a half long movie that was made.

Claudia, watch I'll Be Home for National Margarita Day

on Lifetime, presented by Chili's.

Celebrating National Margarita Day at the local Chili's

is the highlight of the year.

But when a big city developer threatens a town,

hold on, I'm agreeing to their terms,

threatens a town holiday tradition,

exes Liz, Maria Menounos, and Sam, Taye Diggs, must team up to stop him. Star-studded.
Again, are we sure this isn't a really elaborate marketing campaign? Who knows how long the movie actually is? 15 minutes. Okay, it's a short film.
Oh, okay, okay. It's a short film.
But that's a lot. I like that.

I don't hate it.

I would like it.

And maybe if it's good enough, like it would get the extended version.

I'll be home for National Margarita Day.

Unfortunately, this year I will be home for National Margarita Day.

I will not be able to celebrate.

When is National Margarita?

Is it not Cinco de Mayo?

It's an amazing question. I don't know why it would.
Oh, speaking of you being amazing, we have to issue a correction from yesterday's episode. Karen Huger was on her fourth DUI.
Not her second. Even worse.
Yeah, so that really makes sense why. And I believe she was booked yesterday.
Like she's literally in prison. Yeah, no, she can't be stopped from drinking and driving.
so maybe some time in the slammer would put things into perspective for her and then when she leaves and she's fresh out the slammer i'm coming back home to ray do you think ray is gonna like stick it out it's hard to have a partner in prison he's gonna stick it out she has like rode with him through some tough times for. That's very true.
That's very true. I forgot about those dark years where they had to move out of the Potomac zip code.
And she was there for him. So if he leaves, like, seriously despicable.
Seriously. And it's like, he didn't leave for the first three DUIs.
So, like, you've always loved her. Now you've developed a moral compass? No.
No, I don't think so. And seriously, Ray, like, you should drive her.
Well, that's the other thing. I hate to blame Ray because it was Karen's fault.
But like a woman should never be driving herself at night. Yeah.
And he should know like she likes to drink and drive. Right.
Maybe I'll drop her off and pick her up. Like he's supposed to be there like as a guardian angel.
He's an older gentleman. So like he knows better.
He's wiser. Like he didn't do his part.
I definitely blame Ray Ray and that's that's the toxic Karen Huger stand in me and think about like what she might have been driving away from maybe it was Ray the way we've totally flipped on DUIs like they're the most despicable thing and now we're like well what were they do what were they running from right well just you because you take a really strong stance. Not that I'm like pro.

By the way, not that I would ever because like I barely drive.

But if I ever got a DUI, I don't know how I could show my face on this podcast again. You could never show your face again.

And I have no plans to drink and drive.

But that's also like one thing that will like guarantee you guys I will never.

Because I couldn't face the public backlash.

No, you would lose all credibility. Yeah, you guys would stop listening to this podcast and I actually would agree with you.
Yeah. All right, so that's good.
Like one thing you can count on is I'm not going to drink and drive. Mostly because I really don't drive much.
Like if I am in a car, Ben's driving. And you live in a city.
Like it's not so hard. Yeah, like it would be harder for me.
You might not be talking such a big game. Everyone get an Uber.
No, no. And I've been like in places city like it's not so hard yeah like it would be harder for me sticks you might not be talking such a big game everyone get an uber no no and i i've been like in places where like you're drinking and it's so hard to get home and like not that i understand but like i see how somebody could make such a bad decision because it's not so easy in new york like it actually would be harder for me to drink and drive myself home then it would be like drink and take a taxi drink and take an uber drink and like literally hail a gypsy cab.
Like there's a million ways.

She's softening.

I'm not.

I'm not at all.

You literally just said I could see how it could happen.

That's not what I said.

Karen's changed you.

That's not what I said.

She broke the matrix, really.

She did.

She's like one of the few people who like she put me in a tough spot.

Yeah.

I'm sorry for you.

Yeah.

I'm sorry for Karen.

She's literally in jail.

I'm sorry for the divider that she hit.

Thank you. she's like one of the few people who like she put me in a tough spot yeah i'm sorry for you yeah i'm sorry for karen she's literally in jail i'm sorry for the divider that she hit i'm sorry for the person who had to clean it up and build a new one and no like the and the reckless abandon which she acted with you know i'm sorry for a lot yeah well we have a lot of news today a lot of stories broke my God, yes.
Yeah. And we're going to talk about Michelle Trachtenberg, which is so sad, but there's also another developing celebrity death news.
I don't know if it's a story, but I did want to- Gene Hackman. Yeah, of course.
I feel like vomiting. That man is like so integral.
So I think a lot of people maybe don't know who Gene Hackman is. And I don't know if I would know he's a 95 year old actor.
So he's like a little bit before our time.

But if you guys know Jackie and I,

you know how much Gene Hackman means to us because we are obsessed with

quoting his line from our favorite movie starring Sigourney Weaver and

Jennifer Love Hewitt and Gene Hackman called Heartbreakers.

And right before he has a heart attack,

he says,

I feel like vomiting.

And we say it all the time.

We say it all the time.

We love that movie. And if you've been around for a while and you do your homework it was definitely a toast movie of the week during yes so hopefully you've watched it and that you also have a warm spot in your heart for gene hackman and are affected by the news today yeah so just wanted to make a cultural reference a toasty reference yeah very very sad news today vomiting when i saw that 1000 it's a disturbing story we'll get into the details in the fast five but this is not the fast five no this is not this is the pre-fast five banter where it really goes down yeah also yesterday brutus got a haircut my baby boy like never misses an appointment he's good but his groomer said like he he needs he seems a little stressed oh okay well did brutus get get my you know i sent out pr boxes did you get i did bruno got your pr package okay because i am a brand ambassador for a pet wellness brand called wagwell and i actually feel like bruno is kind of my target demo he has a very high stress life he does and i think between the skincare products the supplements the treats that are made you know with really premium ingredients i think if bruno could post about my pr box i would appreciate that oh you think that would move the needle like just a little sales bruno's highly influential he is highly influential because he's the type like he's very brand loyal he doesn't use a lot of different products and like when he hones in on what he likes like he will use it forever that's so bruno like the sun beam heating pad high bar yeah okay well i'll have to get him on his wagwell because like he was very stressed very tight in the neck yeah you can let him know like i know that the box was like delivered and and signed for and he didn't post about it and he didn't post about it so no that's because you want to know why he got right into everything before he could take an aesthetic photo sure that's classic oh you know it's 50 degrees in new york so i was gonna say even though it's national chili day like i actually can't really make a chili it's not a chili day for you it's not i made homemade tomato sauce last night and hamburger with italian seasoning which is just meatballs but if you've been following along, it's really funny.
It's just a funny bit.

And why have you decided to like torture yourself

in making your own sauce when like Rao's exists?

I thought I told you this when my friends Sam and Ben were here.

I know, and it was really good.

And like maybe for a special occasion.

So much so that Rao's doesn't taste the same.

And that's why like every time I now make tomato sauce,

I was like, I'm not doing it happily.

I'm cursing them for ever making me homemade tomato sauce because I can't go back oh you know I meant to call you I don't know how long ago it was but you gave me like just in case for a rainy day if anything ever were to happen a little bit of sourdough starter and I thought when I had gestational diabetes that like that would be the time where I hear starter because you said that like it's like literally the only thing you can eat like when you know it's like the only way you could have a piece of bread that has zero sugar so i obviously don't have gestational diabetes thank god thank god thank god but um i did just take a look at the sourdough starter this morning and it's black so yes if you leave discard in the fridge for a while it can get black on top some people you could just like take that off and still move on forward with it but i know you probably won't do that but are you feeling no but like can i you can and then start feeding it are you gonna start feeding it no so should i just leave no should i just leave it black just leave it then yeah okay until and then you know i'll bring you a little more next time i see you just in case and then you could swap out i almost threw it out it looked like mold yeah that's like what it is but like it's it's not bad yet. I don't know that I would go with black, but I'll bring you fresh, Kumza.
Okay. Are you feeling sourdough curious? No, not at all.
I was cleaning out my fridge curious and I saw this black liquid. No, it makes me think of you.
And it's in one of the little containers of baby food jars. Of baby food jars.
And it's just like, oh, my family's in my fridge. Hey, guys.
I like wave to you every time I open the door. But just know I could bring you the same thing again in a month.
I think Ben should get into sourdough. Actually, not for your sake.
You will be flour all over the kitchen. But like for his life.
No. Ben and powders, because you know he takes his AG1 every morning.
I find little green mountains of powder all over my house I can't take it so no and two not only like the powder but the sheer amount of utensils required to get a loaf in the oven yeah I just know that out for it that what's that bread the dough whisk like that would become the bane of my existence the scale yeah the basket I'm not interested in all the accessories no you need a lot of things you need to keep them clean they're not dishwasher safe no yeah no never mind thank you you'll stick with wild green 1000 like i i just i can't i can't go there right now yeah i saw that wild green had something wild green not that this is a spot an ad though they are a, has frozen fresh pasta, which I don't want to start making my own pasta. It's just not something I can take on.
But I want fresher pasta. Hop to it.
Hence, Wild Green. Yeah.
Like, it's just, I know homemade wares are so much better for you. They taste so much better.
Like, I'm so tired, you know? Yeah. The more you do it, the easier it gets.
But I do understand. Like that's why like tonight just might be a factor meal.
Right. Right.
Like all our brand mentions. It's so true.
And this is like not none of it is sponsored. None of them are sponsors today.
That's but when you live as authentically as we do and you integrate all your sponsors into your everyday life, it's such a seamless synergized community. It is.
So maybe we should get into the actual sponsors for today's episode. If we must, yes.
The fast five stories that you that do need to know. And the fast five stories you need to know.
By the way, maybe because that was Samantha's song. I a tiktok about it this morning and people were like coming at me in the comments being like this was my favorite and i agree i actually think in terms of like what song i liked the most samantha's was but in terms of what i thought would be the best theme song becca's was i love samantha's song i love samantha's song it was my number one until like Becca's song like really was growing on me and like Becca's song was exactly what we needed like just four lines the top of the show like Samantha's song had like a chorus but it's a song I mean I was saying like can we put Samantha's song at the end of the episode but then it's just like too many songs no I got a bunch of suggestions now especially now that we're gonna have a Spotify profile like we should just record it and release it as a song, like buy it from her.
Agreed. And we can use it.
Are you ready for it? The Fast Five. Because that's the best part of the song.
The Fast Five Stories You Need to Know. You do do do do do.
Brought to you by, right? Yeah. We'll have to talk to Samantha.
We'll chat offline with Sam. Yeah.
It's a gargy pargy morning with Jackie O and Turdelloo. Like it was really good.
Like it was a hard choice. It was.
It really, really was. And my friend called me this morning and he was like, I can't stop singing the song.
And I said to him, and tell me if you feel this way, but you live in Florida and I live in New York, but it does feel like everybody in New York is singing that song. Like I'm telling you, I just, everywhere I go, it it's always in my head it's always in my house like we're always in my heart and it's always in my heart it's true and then it's always in my feed because like everyone's enjoying it correct Parchi it's a gargi-pargi morning with Jackie and Turdelloo girlies swirlies gather around every day with us.

It's a girl's night.

Oh, and you know what I was thinking about this morning?

What?

The next Jizno live podcast that we do

where we have our own song.

And I think the next Jizno we've decided

that we're going to do is in December.

So we have a whole ass year for people to listen to the podcast,

learn the song, love the song.

When we walk out to that song,

because you know that's going to be our new walkout song,

like Sorry, Invincible by Kelly Clarkson,

you've gotten the boot.

That is a moment I cannot wait for.

A moment like this?

Correct.

Yeah, that's very exciting.

I just think we need more music.

Like now that we've like,

we've cracked like.

No, seriously,

the hardest part is getting a Spotify profile.

Like, never have it. No, I really think like Toast Tunes Tunes, the original songs, like, everything.
It's time to really dig in to our musical selves. Side.
Mm-hmm. We haven't been musical enough up until this point.
We have not. So, now, without further, a do-do-do-do-do.
Here are the stories. Okay.
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Now, the thing I wanted to tell you was last night, you know, we're still watching Desperate Housewives. We got to the funniest episode.
Tom and Lynette are doing couples counseling and the therapist says that like, like after hours, she oh yeah I do like community theater. They're like oh we'd love to come and like support.
And they go see her in like some community production and she's so bad. That they can't take her advice seriously.
Yeah. It was actually one of the funniest concepts.
Like me and Ben were cracking up so hard. It was so funny.
That is really funny. I remember that episodeical we're gonna get into the stories but something that's developing and will probably come out after we wrap today classic is that the jeffrey epstein lists are like set to be released today some names and flight logs the new attorney general pam bondy said like thursday they're dropping names she didn't say before 10 30 a.m eastern time though which was disappointing which is rude because like i like we could have been first and now we're gonna be last however like even if they came out at this point like during the show i need a minute to like read like see what i'm to read yeah sometimes for other people to break it down yeah sometimes when news breaks on the toast and it's like really like dense yeah especially if it's like legal like that's how i felt about karen huger yesterday like i wish i had time to process before i had to like give my opinion on my queen wanted me to shelf it no no you know also my favorite thing is getting live breaking news like when i because i'm over here i'm unplugged okay so i got my ads if the list breaks i'll tell you that the list breaks and then we'll like talk about it in depth tomorrow sounds good okay yeah but like i feel like if the list breaks like immediately like

the first like the biggest like three or five people like they'll do the work for us the internet yeah have you been seeing like the odds makers you're kidding you can bet on who's gonna be on the flight logs like yeah who's gonna be like the first like the top now do you think somebody being on a flight log it made news because now the number one person that people are suspecting would be on it is Jay-Z.

Oh, for sure.

Yeah, but even though he's not like, I know he's definitely got stuff going on, but I never like fully associated him with Epstein. With Epstein specifically? No, me neither.
But do you think that somebody being on a flight log is an automatic like admission of like pernicious, I don't know if that's the right word, like peculiar pedophilic behavior? No, I think one flight, maybe two, it depends how far apart they are. I think maybe you, maybe you got to, like people hit your ride all the time.
And this is also how Jeffrey made friends was, you know, that's how the, there will be people who are back and forth, back and forth, back and forth, like take me to the island. Bill Clinton.
Yeah, and then there will probably be people that it's like a little suspicious, but not as much, you know? So I think there'll be degrees, but just because you're on it once, like it's really unfortunate. I agree, but that's the same way I feel about like all those Getty images of like Ghislaine Maxwell with different celebrities.
Like when you're a celebrity, like and you're around really wealthy people, like yeah, you go on each other's planes, you take pictures at events. It's not an admission of like, oh, I knew you were a madam and you were hiring hookers for me.
But the flight log will also say where they went. So if they just got like a ride home from the Super Bowl.
Oh. That's different.
Oh, good call. If you're going to and fro, to and fro from, what do they call the island? Little.
Pedophile Island. Pedophile Island.
What's like the colloquial term for it? Epstein Island. Oh, yeah.
If you're going to and fro Epstein Island and you're not even coming back with so much as a tan, I'm suspicious. Yeah.
So that's why you need to like. But there will be.
Hopefully it goes in order of frequency. Do you know? Yeah.
Hopefully whoever's like doing the stats will release like, here are the most famous people,

but here are also the people who went the most times,

the most frequent riders.

Yeah, no, like don't put in alphabetical order.

I want frequency.

Oh, fuck the alphabet here.

Excel, sort by, amount.

If you were to take a look at my outfit,

you would assume that I'm wearing a set, right?

Yeah.

Isn't it crazy that I'm not?

I just happen to have this shirt and these pants that like look, they're the same material. They're the same color.
Are they both fangs? No, my pants are from Revolve and my top is from Avara. Interesting.
I know, I feel like I'm hacking life. It looks like the Spanx Air.
Right, Air Essentials. I feel like I'm walking around and everybody's like, oh, cute set.
I'm like, you don't even know. It's not a set.
You don't even know the ingenuity that went into picking out this Luke wait speaking of Luke's I dropped a Patreon vlog yesterday oh my god the worst kind of Patreon vlog no but I was having fun I think people really enjoyed it and it was like no I'm talking about sorry the audience loves it and that's why we do it to be the creator of the vlog is one of the worst experiences it's a it's well it try on vlog. Jackie was sharing all like the new clothes she got for spring, but.
And all the like the new stuff I'm liking and like my new style and just taking you guys on like a style journey. The only thing that was treacherous about it was like cleaning up my closet after because I pulled out everything I bought in the last few weeks.
Putting it back on hangers. Dried them all on, threw them on the floor to try on the next one, next one.
So that was the hardest part. But it's a really fun fashion vlog if you are into that sort of thing patreon.com slash your toast okay fashion girl okay so like now should we get into the stories I guess it's really sad I like I know we have to talk about Michelle Trachnberg but I actually was somebody who really was impacted by her work I know a lot of our listeners were like I really loved her um and I feel sad.
So I'm definitely procrastinating. But yes, I agreed.
I like loved her when I've seen her and then like seeing everything, all of these tributes to her just reminds me so much of how fantastic she was. And also like the kind of person she was, we didn't know her anything, but the things that people are writing about her just like so above and beyond in terms of how like electric and um full of light she was and personality and so this is just really sad but here are the details because michelle tractenberg the uh gossip girl harriet the spy buffy the vampire well that's the other thing now everybody's like sharing their favorite things like i when i think of michelle tractenberg i know she was in a lot of things but now that i'm like looking at her career as a whole she literally raised us from like Harriet the Spy up until Gossip Girl she was in Euro Trip Ice Princess is my favorite fucking movie like she really did it all yes she was um found dead in New York City on Wednesday at 39 years old a source told people that in the year prior she was quote really down emotionally she had also been issues.
She told friends she was struggling, the source says. She was really, really sick and open with those in her circle about how much she was struggling.
Physically, they claim that she looked pale, gone, and very thin. Yes, in the most recent photos of her, both on her Instagram and also, like, professional photos, she does look very thin and very pale.
Around 8 a.m. on February 26th, police responded to a 911 call at one Columbus place in New York City.
The NYPD confirmed to people upon arrival, they discovered a 39 year old female unconscious and unresponsive. They responded to location and pronounced the victim to cease.
Criminality is not suspected. Also, she had recently undergone a liver transplant.
Right. So I think that if you looked at her social media in recent years, you could tell that she physically looked different.
Whether, you know, she was struggling with illness or something wasn't clear. And so I didn't know until yesterday that she had recently undergone a transplant for a new liver.
So it's just, it's so sad because she was so young and like really so full of talent. And I think she really um she really left her mark on a generation of young women that I would include myself in and I just re-watched Gossip Girl so she's like very present and I don't know I just sometimes when a celebrity dies like it really hits you and this is just terrible especially it was so shocking because I guess I personally hadn't like kept up with her in the last few years i didn't even really know she was so unwell like some people oh i did pass like due to sickness or drug use or whatever like you see the signs leading up they did like they're publicly kind of deteriorating yeah and or they're up and then they're down and they're then.
And for me, like she's just been so quiet for the last few years that like this came out of nowhere for me. Yeah.
Agreed. And I don't think about her a lot.
So when I saw her name in the headlines, I'm like, oh, what's she up to? It certainly wasn't expected to see deceased. Yeah.
So sad. Blake Lively posted a tribute.
Jenny Mom. Jenny.
I think Kim Cattrall. Like everyone.
Jenny Momsen. What's her name? Taylor Momsen.
Taylor Momsen. Jenny Humphrey.
Jenny Humphrey. Everyone that she's ever worked with.
And like, I'm sure, you know, anytime someone passes, people are going to say something nice. But just something about the way people were talking about her.
Like she just seemed like a really incredible person. Yeah.
And a fun fact about Michelle Trachtenberg is she dated like my absolute celebrity crush when I was in high school. And I don't know if I really knew that she was a New Yorker.
Like I associate her with New York because of Gossip Girl. But the fact that she still lives in New York.
So she was obviously like a gal about town at the time. And when I was in high school, there was a basketball player on the Knicks called Danilo Gallinari.
He was Italian. I don't think he spoke a lick of English.
He was so fucking hot. No, we're obsessed.
And he no longer plays, but he had a couple of years in New York where he was pretty good. He was kind of just like a guy about town.
He was handsome. I don't even remember if he was good.
So hot. No, he was good.
He was good. It wasn't amazing.
And they dated. And she was the only celebrity or like woman I ever saw him date and then I ran

into him at the faena like years ago and I asked him to take a picture and I was like actually being a freak the way I was obsessed with this man and she dated him I believe there's like one photo of them together and I loved that for her like sleigh it was such like a New York moment and she was a queen for that she was a princess an ice princess and I really I wish her family well she was a Jewish queen. I didn't know or

didn't remember that she's Jewish.

I mean... queen for that she was a princess and ice princess and i really i wish her family well she was a jewish queen i didn't know or didn't remember that she's jewish i mean tractenberg like we went to camp with her michelle yeah no now that i think about it of course but i when i think of like jewish celebrities and actresses like i never thought of her right i need to find that picture of her and danilo gallinari just to like feel something again i was so so.
Printed out. I was so jealous.
I was so jealous at the time, but it also like because I'm crazy gave me hope because like she was a brunette Jew. Like that's obviously your type.
That's obviously your type. Now, I can't even find one photo of them together.
Maybe they were just spotted together. Doesn't matter.
Yeah. Bleacher Report.
Gossip Girl star Michelle Trachtenberg dating Nick Stenillo Gallinari, according to New York Post report. She was 26 and he was 22.
Oh, a younger man. Ooh.
No, I guess they were never even spotted together. That's really crazy.
So it's just your imagination. Yeah, I guess I like AI generated like a photo in my head because there was one like specific one in mind.
But I guess I guess not. Your memory playing tricks on you.
Once again. And then our next story, which is also sad news, is that legendary actor Gene Hackman and his wife, Betsy Arakawa, and their dog found dead in New Mexico home.
So was the dog dead? I wasn't getting like clear.

So no one's like spelling it out completely

because they say like Gene and his wife

and dog found.

And the dog were found.

Or like Gene and his wife found dead with dog.

I don't know.

Right.

And so was the dog there

or was the dog also dead?

I don't know exactly.

I'm feeling like the dog was dead.

And also how long were they dead for?

Like did, you know.

Right.

And I think a lot of people

because the police say

there was no foul play. Suspected.
Suspected suspected which is so crazy when two people are found dead i think a lot of people are just jumping to the conclusion that they died of carbon monoxide poisoning which happens a lot like if you're in the same house which i do think would also take out a dog yes okay that is a is a because how like it is suspicious by nature you're both dead he's 95 She's in her 60s. She's 63, yeah.
So if it's not foul play,. You're both dead.
He's 95. She's in her 60s.

She's 63.

Yeah.

So if it's not foul play, but you're both found dead, I actually think people jumping

to that conclusion is a pretty safe assumption.

Yes.

It's very common.

It's more common than you would think.

That's really crazy if that's what happened.

And that's actually a great reminder to you and everyone.

Check on your carbon monoxide alarm things.

Yeah. A good one should let you know when they're like not functioning just check on them okay well they were found dead in their new mexico home santa fe county police discovered the bodies of the two-time oscar winner the classical pianist and one of their dogs while performing a welfare check um they did not provide a cause of death or say when they may have died.

His daughter suspects carbon monoxide poisoning as well.

Wow.

I feel like vomiting.

That's crazy.

And I'm sure his breadth of work

goes far beyond that one line in Heartbreakers,

but he was 95, so I didn't see a lot of his work.

Okay, so he's known,

that's known for his role in The French Connection, 1971.

Then he also starred in Bonnie and Clyde, heardard of it. Young Frankenstein.
Heard of it. Night Moves.
Bite the Bullet. Superman.
Clint Eastwood's Unforgiven, which earned him his second Academy Award. And Royal Tenenbaums, a classic.
Oh, I can't believe they didn't put Heartbreaker in there. I guess that really proves oh they're disgusting sorry how did they not put that in there well i don't know it's disgraceful and shows a real lack of taste it also must like his other movies must be so amazing that they outrank heartbreakers think about that that's what i was saying like he's so accomplished that heartbreakers doesn't even crack the top 10 yeah that movie's so good so good.
It is. Watch Heartbreakers in honor of Gene Hackman today.
Yes. Support.
And it's just, it's such a fabulous film. Yeah.
Let me see if he's in anything else that like we like. Cause I do feel like we know him from other stuff.
He has a very familiar face, but when I saw his face, I automatically knew I'm like, that's my boy. I feel like vomiting.
And I do feel like vomiting. I do.
I feel sad. Lots of death today.
Those are like the worst stories to cover. Yeah, they are.
So now we can move on to something a little more extraterrestrial. Extraterrestrial? Katy Perry, Gayle King, and Lauren Sanchez will be flying into space on Jeff Bezos' Blue Arch in Next Mission.
Wait, I didn't know any of this. I didn't know where the sentence was going because you said extraterrestrial.
And then you said Katy Perry. So I'm like, oh.
Oh, her song. She's remixing.
Yeah, yeah. I'm like, oh, that's funny, Jackie.
Good job. And then I'm like, wait, Gail? Lauren? I did not know where the sentence was going from the moment you started.
I love that. Keeping you on your feet.
Yes. I love when you read a story that I, like, usually I know what we're going to talk about or I've seen it on social media.
I haven't even heard this story. And I need to know how the three of these women got connected.
So Blue Origin, which is Jeff Bezos's aerospace company, is sending an all-women crew into space on its next flight, including singer Katy Perry, Gayle King, and Lauren Sanchez, his fiance. The company on Thursday announced the six people flying on the NS-31 mission sent to launch in the spring of 2025.
Okay so like months away. I love the shortly time things Jeff.
The crew also includes Bahamian American aerospace engineer Asha Bowe, civil rights activist Amanda Wen and film producer Carrie Ann Flynn. I just want to say like if, if all these, like, you know, billionaires, it's the space race.
They're all getting up there doing their thing. And they're all like, I'm taking the first cancer patient.
I'm taking the first dog. Like, and so, like, I could see somebody say I'm taking the first podcaster and sending me an invitation.
Right. The way I would never go on Blue Origin, like it just gives like the janky vibes, that kind of airlines energy.
Like, I don't know. It's low key kind of a crazy thing to do.
I would soon go on Virgin. I would obviously go on SpaceX.
Like they're obviously best in the biz. And then I think I would go Richard Branson.
Like he would be my last Jeff Bezos. I don't know why his airline, he like, he did it for the wrong reasons, right? He wants to like keep up with Elon.
He wants to like be a billionaire, like be buff and like, yeah, I'm going to space too. He just does it for like really, I think shallow vapid reasons.
And I think that it kind of gives, um, submersible energy. Ooh, I understand.
I see like why you think that. And I don't not think that.
However, like we have to remember that Jeff Bezos like is a nerd. And like, this iss get off on.
Like the fact that he has all this money in the world, like what does he want to do? He wants to go to space because he's a nerd. Also because he's like so competitive.
Like I think he's a nerd who's really interested in a lot of nerdy things, not including space until he saw how much attention the other billionaires were getting. And he's now like in this era of his life where he's doing things for attention, right? He doesn't like go to Amazon every day and like innovate.
Like he gets on his boat. He wants to be a celebrity.
He's hanging out with celebs. He's buffing up at the gym.
Like he's thirsty. And so I think that this was a really insincere project that he took on.
Not for the love of space travel. You could see when the other billionaires talk about space, like there's this curiosity there.
He's doing it for really like shallow. He wants attention.
For him also, no, like this is a hobby. Like he sends people up to space like for sport and then also like for his ego.
But we're just, hey, want to go to space today? Because we can. And also I feel like these things are a little misleading because when I hear this, I'm like, oh, like Katy Perry's going to the moon.
Right, and she's putting on a space suit and like orbiting throughout taking a rocket they're leaving the orbit and they're coming right back down like it's not you know a multi-day it's still crazy but yes but now these things are so much more commonplace just to like take a trip to outer space I'm so uninterested again no one has offered me a ride and I probably never will but if it if I ever got an invitation like the way I would never go I think it's seriously the stupidest thing and also of course like if a podcaster is going to space like it will be Joe Rogan because he loves space not only that like if a podcaster is going to space like that's the one that crashes like I just know it it's not gonna be you like and there's so many podcasters who are into space and like we're not we kind of like clown on this so I don't think we have to worry about what to do with our invitations yeah yeah I'm just saying like I could see someone being like I could see Brian getting a seat and being like do you want to come that I could see that and no I don't like don't ask me I'm not going well it's unclear if it's just the crew is um it's just like the passengers are all women or like everyone operating the rocket as well are also women, like if it's fully woman, I think it's full woman. And they're all like trying to do these, not branded, but like categorize.
Yeah, like can it break a record? Yes. All women.
All dogs. Oldest, youngest, fattest, skinniest.
Yeah, no. Okay, maybe I would go as the fattest, but like it's just lame.

It's really the space race is giving like dick measuring contest.

And Jeff Bezos, for some reason, is giving me like smallest dick energy. Like he was last to the race.

He is doing it for the wrong reasons.

Like I don't think he knows.

Like nerds have a lot of different interests.

His was clearly tech.

And I don't think like he's into space. I think he does it because he wants to keep up with everyone.
I think every nerd is into space. I don't.
And I think that's you painting with a broad brush. Yeah, not to stereotype.
But I think like every nerd is into the galaxy. Yeah, I do.
Let's ask Kendall Jenner. She's totally like, are aliens real? She totally like takes like a private plane and like goes to area 51 being like wait did you guys hear that she's such a nerd she's such a nerd nerds love space they just do yeah they just it's kind of like you have to yeah are you ready for our next story story? Yeah.
Inside the six-figure goodie bag given to the Oscar nominees. Oh, this is always good.
This is always fun. So Oscar nominees this year will receive an array of luxury products and services, including a complimentary home renovation project management from Mason Construction.
They will also- that's insane that's insane they will also get a stay at a five-star resort in the maldives wow um the night in one in one of the hotels starts at three thousand dollars a night they will be getting a four-night stay twelve thousand they will also um also get a five night luxury wellness retreat in Sri Lanka. Wow.
They will also be getting a stay at the Cotton House Hotel five star in Barcelona. Okay, so lots of trips.
Lots of trips. Then they're also getting cosmetic surgeon specialties that they would want.
Then they're also getting like all the luxury skincare, all of that. Yeah, products.
The full range of Miage skincare, estimated to cost more than $500. L'Oreal Paris is also contributing.
Miage, M-I-A-G-E. And what was the second one, Paris? L'Oreal Paris are also contributing a selection of hair care to the swag bags.
Danicero will supply their D22 tonic and then a bunch of other, you know, the crap too. But there's a lot of non-crap in here.
Yeah, and so are all nominees getting the same bag? Like from the audio mixer to the supporting actor? That's a great question. Does the audio mixer get this bag? Does the audio mixer get the home renovation?

Because that's, I've heard, you know, every year they share this and it's always like really luxury trips and products.

But I've never heard of a free home renovation.

Well, it's also like management.

And does Best Documentary International Short get that?

And like he probably wants it more.

He needs the free one more.

Yeah.

Also, the gift back is subject to tax laws. So some celebrities don't cash in on all the items offered to them.
Oh, I wouldn't either. Like sometimes it's like when you win a car that if you win a car on a TV show, it could seriously put you in jail.
Like how big it could bankrupt you. Oh, yeah.
I would only accept the things I plan on using. Yeah.
Oh, my God. The list, like the whole list is so, so long.
Like an ancestry DNA kit, body contouring procedures. Ooh, I'd cash in on that.
Karma nuts, air roasted cashews. Yummy.
Nah. Just like a lot of shit.
Like it's still a gift bag with their shite, but like, it's also funny because you get a gift bag from an event. You like think like you're walking out with like out with like a like a tote and this is not a i'm sure it's not even a physical gift bag like it's not at the event or there's like cards in like come to sri lanka they probably deliver to your house in like a pargy basket yes so congrats to the nominees it pays be nominated.
I guess it really is an honor.

People get so upset when they don't get nominated because they're not getting a home renovation.

Right.

And that's why they always say like it's truly an honor to be nominated because it is.

That's half the battle.

It is.

Damn, that's crazy.

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So before we get into the fifth and final story, still no Epstein list, but I just saw something about the Gene Hackman death. There were actually three dogs in the house.
One passed away with them. Two others survived.
Oh, that's really crazy. Yeah.
Just something to keep in mind as we learn more. That's so sad.
Yeah. Our fifth and final story is some big news for the kids.
Big news in the kid community. Mummy pig, Peppa Pig's mother, is pregnant.
I heard she's knocked up. She's expecting baby number three with daddy pig.
So it is. It's all good.
It's all in the faith. Within wedlock.
And fellow pregnant mom, Kylie Kelsey, broke the news. So this is just like.
Oh, is that like a partnership? that like a partnership yeah cute sweet news the star of peppa pig is expecting her third baby with daddy pig sharing the news exclusively on kylie's podcast not gonna lie that's really funny the couple is of course already parents to daughter peppa and son george and so the show this is from peppa pig the show the kids i know i know yeah but for anyone who doesn't know and like the show has been on for a really long time. And it's Peppa and George, Mommy Pig, Daddy Pig.
You never consider that mommy pigs. They're still in the phase of growing their family.
That Mommy Pig still got it. Right, and you'd love to see a healthy marriage, keeping the spark alive.
It really sets a good example for kids. And I do think that if you are a young family where you you have to like explain to your kids that like mommy's pregnant

and like not the birds and the bees

but like the beginnings, you know?

This is a fabulous tool for that.

Yeah, I feel like so often like family shows

like the cast is set in stone.

Yeah, they're just like,

they're these fictional families

that exist exactly how they are.

They don't really age, especially like does Bluey get older? No, like it's just like, they're these fictional families that exist exactly how they are. They don't really age, especially like, does Bluey get older? No, like, it's just like, they don't exist in time.
I am so shocked that you chose this as a story, only because Meghan Markle posted on social media yesterday. And I thought for sure, like, you were- I've been burned, okay? Yeah, I watched the video, and there was like, nothing to say about it.
So I was curious if you were going to choose it. And like you had some theory that you saw.

No, actually, I didn't watch the video.

So that's why I didn't choose it.

It was just a montage of clips.

You didn't miss anything.

Okay, so I mean, I prefer Peppa.

This is big news in the community.

And I agree with you.

Like it will be helpful for families that are growing.

But for some reason, like I just I didn't know that mommy pig was like still getting down. Shaking that thang for Daddy Pig late at night.
Mommy Pig's on all fours. Oink, oink, bitch.
Get over here. Bing, bong, bing, bong, bing, bong.
You didn't know she was throwing it in a circle like that. I didn't know she was throwing that cooter for Daddy Pig.
And you know what? It's really inspiring as somebody who's building my own family. And you worry, of course, what's going to happen to my marriage? You think my marriage has been this way for eight years.
And is it going to change? Will I stop being the priority? That obviously is my biggest fear. Will Ben like the baby more than me, for sure.
And it's nice to see a really healthy example of a good all-American family, even though I believe they're British. They are very British.
And I'm sure you've also seen, I think like back in the day we reported on this, that like American kids are starting to speak, who love Peppa Pig and watch it all the time, are developing a British accent, which I think is good. Yeah, I have no issues with that.
And you know who would love that? King George. Maybe Peppa Pig.
Yeah, she's like a. Is the 1776 reincarnated spirit of King George who lost it all.
And the son is named George. Oh my God.
I'm telling you. Peppa Pig is a colonizer.
I was going to say it's giving colonization. It is.
But that's a topic for another day. Today we celebrate the Simcha.
peppa pig is canceled get her colonizing fat ass out of here yeah um and then the the kylie kelsey bit is actually cute too that they partnered for the announcement that's a good partnership and i think they're a big peppa household in our house we call our peppers but um of course you do cojjers and Peppers. Peppers.
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You guys have the Peppa Pig Tony.

Right.

I know that one.

The Peppa Pig Tony is how we got into Peppa.

Because it pops off like really early in the beginning.

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Agreed. like say you're traveling and you want to tell them a good night story you would you could record yourself put it on a tony they put it on like it's actually a brilliant idea this is the best use i've seen agreed i'm gonna get like one of those creative tonys and just be sitting in the studio all day i like being alone too much to dance with you by the way we should record something for we should record like one kids episode and then a whole hour long episode like 25 20 25 minutes like that's for the children that's gonna be hard not to curse for 25 minutes we could edit it we could edit it oh true true and that way we could send it to people and they could put it on the tony and that way we'll never age out of those fans oh i love that that's actually brilliant like thinking for the future yeah that's how we're gonna capture new audiences coaches tell the marketing team me and you okay olivia um should we dive into summer house recap we should dive okay so new episode of summer house obviously like the big thing is kyle versus page which i am obsessed with by the way because i feel like kyle gets away with so much and like sort of a lot of the summer house castmates especially people who have been on for a while it's just sort of the it's just like this accepted thing that you have to like suck Kyle's ass and I'd love to see Paige questioning that like never stop asking why yeah also Kyle seems to be like an annoying person right and he's not he's not someone you want to champion right and I think that like Paige like and a lot of people just like put up with him because like they love Amanda and like that's her husband.
He would do that for any friend. But like once he gives her cause to unleash, like now we are hearing what she really thinks.
Yeah. And it's fascinating.
So before that, we meet the new man, Imrule, and we also see Danielle, which was, she was like, I've missed so much. Like seriously, it's been one weekend.
You've missed one weekend. Oh my God.
When she was like, the house feels different.

Like literally it was three days that you missed.

You might as well be a cast member.

Like you're here.

Yeah.

You've missed just as much as in rule.

No.

And then like you're in a confessional, like you're on the show.

Yeah.

That was disappointing.

There was so much made of like her decision to leave.

The fact that she has a confessional, like she's on the show.

Yeah.

And is she, it wasn't clear.

Cause she just like showed up like one day, but is she staying the weekend or she's visiting? I think if she were visiting, she's kind of giving like senior who graduated, who comes back for sure. But if she were visiting, she would come to like a party or a pool day, not be the first one in the house setting up.
Yeah. Like she's there for the weekend for sure.
Okay. And that July 4th party, I just feel like there's, I said this last week, but I feel like it was actually really really obvious this week the growing divide between like the younger castmates and the older ones because like they shut down the party it was still light out and then like everybody gets in bed but like all the young people are on the couch like still drinking hanging out Lexi and people like I mean Jesse I've seen so much Jesse Solomon hate yeah because he said a couple things in last night's episode that were like incongruous and like I love how all in he is on Lexi but like if you want to be all in on someone like you wouldn't even look at another girl like the way that he feels about her like agreed it shouldn't be hard at all like duh we're exclusive like I couldn't even look at someone else like especially she's so like wonderful and they're so cute together so the fact that he had pause about like wait you really think that we're gonna dive in like this so quickly and like literally share room and see each other every day and you would talk to another are you crazy yeah I didn't think she was being unreasonable and asking that but I'm saying I'd seen a lot of like negative Jesse Solomon before that now I'm like well you're not serious like at first I was such a champion I'm like yes like go get married who cares that you're going so fast and she but then like the fact that she just said like if you're gonna get to know me like let's just get to know each other I don't think that's unreasonable at all not at all I liked that she said that that she's not gonna be like a doormat and just like so glad that Jesse's looking my way and also she doesn't have to be that way because like you know she's her she's her so if anyone can say like I'm glad that she's saying it and also she's right about the Instagram comments like they're in it once you're in a relationship oh that was weird of course they are and.
And like, he did it for like a bit. Like, I think he left one comment and people loved it.
So it was just like something he did for the fans. And he like left him in a nice comment once.
And people thought he was like with Amanda. So then he like kept doing it because it's like a funny.
And then people started shipping him. And it was like, Kyle's the worst.
Like, look at this nice guy. It was funny and cute.
But like, no, if you are actually seeing someone, if Ben was like leaving comments, like, and she didn't even say stop leaving comments. She was like, just change your words a little bit to like, you look beautiful in that dress.
Yeah. I thought nothing she said or requested was even remotely unreasonable.
I thought she was actually really like measured in her requests. And the fact that he, that's where he lost me.
Cause up until this point, people were like hating love bombing, Jesse, like, who cares? It's cute. Now I'm like, no, this is weird.
And I didn't like that the girls didn't agree that he should stop. They were kind of like, oh, that's weird that she said that.
Like, no, it's not. It's like, they should have been like, yeah, you know, it's time to change your comments if you're going to be seeing someone.
So I thought that that was weird that they couldn't see that. But that also like speaks to this issue that we always have where like people in the house like don't know how to function around a relationship.
And they just want everyone to just be like acting single all the time while being in a relationship. And things change when you're in a relationship.
So I would say like, and I was saying this last week, I think that's like one of the downfalls of them moving so quickly is Jesse doesn't have enough time to change. Like when you, when you slowly progress into a relationship, you dial back things slowly.
You realize, but like to go overnight, like I I have a girlfriend I have to change every single thing about my life like that's hard for a man like an immature guy yeah because they're like why should I change like but when it's a slower progression you don't notice how much you're changing now I want to talk about in rule because I like that they're bringing in someone who is young who is single who is hot but like people But like people who nonstop talk about how much sex they have, I was like, okay, so you're a virgin. Yeah, sex parties.
It's like so my least favorite. Okay.
That's what you have to, okay. And that conversation between him and Wes about like, what are people from Bangladesh called? Yeah.
And he was like, Bengali. was like, oh sweet.
Yeah, I love that. Like, okay.
You love that? Okay, that's awesome. He's like, oh yeah, like Bengali tiger.
I love that. Yeah.
Like as if Imrule made it up. Like I love that.
He's like, that's just the word. Yeah.
And then also it's like, yeah, it's fun to have a single guy in the house. But when we just heard you had sex with two and a half girls in one day, like nobody in the house wants to get with you.
No, not at all. But I don't think that's why he was brought.
Why? I want like I want Jesse's and Wes to like come in and connect with girls. But if all the girls like that's not a suitor somewhat like.
No, he's like, I think, meant to be like a social person where it's like they're supposed to be going out, throwing parties, inviting people. That's how we got to know, like so many random castmates, like friends who come over.
And I think meant to be like a social person where it's like they're supposed to be going out throwing parties inviting people that's how we got to know like so many random castmates like friends who come over and I think that's more his thing I just feel like guys who come into the house who don't have any sort of like romantic potential with any girl just get forgotten yes yes like even like think about the people who are in the house Kyle of course like course, like is with Amanda, but. He's not like a.
Even Carl and Lindsay. Now that Carl's just like at the party.
Doing the scavenger hunt. Although I do want to say.
I want to get. That actually, that made me like him a little bit.
Like, because it is an awkward thing. Like she's doing this household thing.
And what are you going to do? Sit in the corner and cry. So the fact that he not only participated, but took it really seriously.
I actually like liked that so much me too but that's next week right oh is it yeah I'm not me thinking of the previews that was a preview for next week and I agree when I saw him like leading the charge like running like the running I'm like oh okay I like that and what's also so funny is like they keep being like if Lindsay and Carl can be at the same table in the same house, like so can Wes and Sierra.

I know that they were engaged, but like Wes and Sierra's situation was like more heartbreaking than Lindsay and Carl's.

Yeah.

Because I guess like by the time Lindsay and Carl broke up, they kind of hated each other.

Wes and Sierra broke up when like she still loved him.

Still in love with him. And I know because I remember seeing a preview like down the line, there's like, you know, more drama with Sierra and like Jesse Solomon flirting or something.
And I really hope Sierra stops dating guys in the house. Because I feel like on Winter House like with the Austin stuff and then that bled into Summer House with Danielle and Lindsay.
Like she dates like the single Bravo guys and expects something different than what we're going to get from these like 40 year old bachelors. And it's heartbreaking to see because you champion her so much because she's really sweet she's just looking for love and she's so looking in the wrong places it's really true like in hindsight austin and west are just like the same kind of guy that are like having fun they're not bad guys they're not serious guys especially at the times that she's meeting them like west came on this reality show for a million things like to be all of it.
Like the fact that he's interested in watch parties, like he just was not there to get married. And so, yeah, to like keep seeking out the same thing and then being like, so disappointed in the results.
It doesn't work out. Yeah.
It's, it's time to try something different. I agree.
And I want to say like, I was a big haterenie West, like, during the reunion, like, we coined the term Weenie West. I've moved on.
I think he adds a lot to the show. I think he's really funny.
And I think we're, like, less and less, because the cast is, like, really starting to separate into two groups. Like, those that get into bed and those that, like, hang out and party and go out and drink.
And Wes is, like, a cornerstone of keeping that young group alive. So he's a real necessary part of the show.
He's a good reality star. Like that hot dog thing was hilarious.
Like they're doing, like it's good. It's good.
And I've seen so much hate for like the new young cast members. Like the Bravo fans do not like the young girls, the young guys.
So just Lexi and Bayley? Jesse and Wes. They don't like this sort of new generation of stars coming in the house.
And I disagree. And you know I'm such a hater when new people come.
I'm always like, go back to the original. It's like I'm so stubborn.
I think that Bravo has actually done a very good job of keeping the show. You have to cycle people in and cycle people out.
And I think they've done a great great job and even though Bailey doesn't work out Lexi's great and every inspired choice with Wessie and Jess being last season Jesse and Wes last season I think Lexi will stick around so for so long they couldn't keep a single guy in the house like when you think of all the people who came in and out, it was so hard to find guys.

Lexi is a fabulous addition.

I think that they're doing like what they couldn't do with Vanner pump rules.

I think they're doing it quite well.

I'm surprised to see so much hate.

Yeah, I agree.

Some people just like don't like change and maybe those young people like make them feel old.

But yeah, that's what a summer house is.

And I do think right now like it all works together, even though they're like more split um there's interconnecting story it works so it totally works um i also like i agree about west that i've moved on and i like seriously couldn't stand him but he's like taken his hate victimhood you know like he's he's gotten like hate and now it's time to move on you're not just gonna hate someone forever he said something really funny last night which is like do you think that Danielle's gonna say something to Jesse and Lexi about moving too quickly lol so that was just like yeah I'm ready to move on like he made a mistake he did his time he did his time like what am I gonna hold on to it we need to talk about Paige and Lindsay like being friends and shopping together for maybe it's all I ever wanted it's all we've ever wanted it was really beautiful to see and I love and I just I love so many things about it like I loved this anti-role that Paige like immediately fell into and just the whole thing made me so happy and I just love this season of life for Lindsay like we liked Lindsay before we were like Lindsay apologists but she's always been like somebody you had to defend and like yeah she's crazy but but this era of life for Lindsay. Like we liked Lindsay before.
We were like Lindsay apologists, but she's always been like somebody you had to defend

and been like, yeah, she's crazy.

But this era of her life so suits her.

She's so beautiful, like carrying and looking

and it's just a joy to watch.

Yeah, I agree.

I loved it.

It's blending really well.

Like even if she doesn't want to stay in the house

the whole weekend, like seeing her in the city.

Then there was the rooftop party.

I can't believe we haven't even spoken about.

I can't believe how everybody shows up to these things.

Like,

Thank you. really well.
Like even if she doesn't want to stay in the house the whole weekend, like seeing her in the city. See, then there was the rooftop party.
I can't believe we haven't even spoken about. I can't believe how everybody shows up to these things.
Like a rooftop summer party, like packed with people such like, you know, Paige would seriously dying not to go. Just like looks so horrible.
Just to watch this 47 year old man DJ for like a beverage company that he like uses like a knife and like stabs everybody with. I couldn't believe everybody showed up like that's so nice.
And that's kind of what Paige was alluding to because she like you know she puts up with this bullshit. She does things she doesn't want to do.
She makes no money off of this company. None of them do.
You would think that the cast members have like even like a small percent, 0.5 percent, one percent of Loverboy because they're hawking it every single week. They're drinking it.
They're making it look good.

They have all zero.

They've not made a cent.

And I think for Paige, who has really steadily gone from being like a reality star to like a true celebrity and a really influential person.

Like when you – she's also – she just did like a huge campaign with like Malibu rum or something.

She gets paid for this.

And so maybe it's starting to bother her a little bit more.

Plus the text messages were just like, are you fucking kidding me? I loved everything she said. And then we didn't like the spritz and the Craig of it all.
But beyond that, it's like, are you kidding me? Like, how dare you even say one crossword to me after all I do for you? And I never complain. Yeah.
And that's really harks back. The expectation from Kyle that everyone will keep doing this and like that.
For nothing. beginning Jesse Solomon wearing a lover boy hat the whole episode he didn't want anyone doing anything else but like it's been years now like people are able to do other things like that but that you would still be like that rigid while you're giving them nothing but really people and they're on a show that's like about alcohol and they can't work with other alcohol brands they can't drink anything else adjacent to page so like hannah and krik who are not on the show can't do a partnership and that is so they talked also about hannah on bff's pod when she said that like she got fired from the show because kyle got her fired because she had done a ad with another brand truly yeah and that's kind of been like the like she had said that and the internet knew that that partnership she did i I believe it was with Truly, was like a big part of him trying to get her fired.
And his favorite thing, Kyle, like every time he gets a cue. So that is like, what are you talking about? Like how does Q score? Everybody knows how does Q score, how does Q score, how does Q score.
And when your reality star, like Bravo does like focus groups and testing and they get, you get like a likability score. And if people really like you, that's your Q score.
It goes up, it goes down.

Having a negative Q score obviously like sucks,

but it doesn't mean that you get fired.

Like people need to be disliked.

People need villains.

So Kyle's flawed like reason,

I didn't get her fired.

She had a bad Q score.

So did Lisa Rinna for many years.

And like you're a necessary part of the show.

Who would have had a lower Q score than Wes

after the reunion?

Right.

And so he should just be fired?

No, it's more interesting to keep him on.

He uses that metric.

Like he thinks people don't understand it.

So, part of the show. Who would have had a lower Q score than West after the reunion? Right.
And so he should just be fired? No, it's more interesting to keep him on. He uses that metric like he thinks people don't understand it.
So like, well, she had a low Q score. Of course she got fired.
Actually, a low Q score is not everybody can have a high Q score. That's a boring show.
No, it's a sign of interest. Right.
Exactly. Controversially, a little radioactive.
So he loves to use that when it's actually not true. And so it's just kind of crazy because the thing he's being accused of with Hannah from years ago is exactly what's happening now with Craig and Spritz and Craig is not even a cast member on this show right so I understand first of all Paige being like don't crawl up my ass for things other people did I like that I agree with her completely like I hate when people are mad at you for something somebody you know did get off my ass.
This isn't me. Especially with how much I fucking do for you and I don't say anything about it.
So now that you brought it up, let's talk about it. No, but also, like, not only what everyone does for Loverboy, which is, like, insane and for them, but that he does nothing for anyone else.
Like, I don't follow him, but does he ever talk about Giggly Squad? Does he ever talk about her tour? Does he ever talk about her Amazon Live? Like, probably not. No, it's so true.
When she said, when have you ever supported anything I've done? It's so true. Think about all the things they do.
They're writing a book. She has a podcast.
She goes on tour. She's a huge Amazon Live contributor.
She does a ton of fashion stuff. Like, when have you literally ever even, like, left a nice comment? Like, you don't support, but I have to be over here doing, like, millions of dollars in free advertising for you and your company just for me to get yelled at for one thing that my friend and boyfriend did that you don't like.
She's so justified in being activated and I need her to go harder. Yeah, no, she's so activated.
Like she's just saying everything and it probably things that were like obvious truths, but she would never say because of Amanda. Yes, there's a lot dynamics one Amanda but two you know Kyle being like the OG um cast mate I think he like he's not a producer by any but he definitely has like if there's a hierarchy he's at the top of it he works with production like on getting people cast so he has power that other people don't have so you have to like walk this line with Kyle and you know being his friend and his adversary while also trying to maintain your job so for and I feel like in the beginning like the work is twins and Steven they were all trying to say that but like they all just got fired you know right but now there are all these other castmates who are like we're the page is not gonna get fired like she can say whatever the fuck she wants he's just not gonna get fired and I feel like for page she.
And that's why she will say whatever she wants. It's powerful.
Because I'm sure at some point if she leaves the show or the show leaves her, like she knows that she's going to be, she has all this stuff off of the show. I wouldn't be surprised if she left on her own accord.
So to not care, she is power. She doesn't need to care and she doesn't need the show.
But his, his sort of, uh, the imbalance of power gives him room to act certain ways and that's why people put up with a lot of the shit that he does whereas if it was any other regular cast mate like imagine danielle and her fashion app yeah coming at page i can't believe you're doing amazon live like right that's how that's what it is right so why can't she say that say that? But Kyle can. Right.
This isn't a Loverboy sponsored show. They're not getting paid by Loverboy.
Correct. So that unless you're an employee, Carl, they're being good friends or being above and beyond every single party, every single episode.
And they're still getting yelled at. Right.
It's insane. It's insane.
Page is so justified. Like I, It's time.
You think I'm two faced? I'm so ready. It's time.
And I'm actually grateful to Spritz and Craig for bringing this conversation to the four. I also love to see Paige and Hannah having each other's back so much because I feel like because of that like power imbalance.
When Hannah got fired you still have to like walk a certain line because Paige was still trying to keep her job. And that's her best friend.
And she wants to defend her to Hannah. I mean to Kyle.
But then also Amanda's her best friend. And now I feel like Paige is at a real point where she can defend her friend so wholeheartedly without giving a fuck because she has nothing to lose.
Yeah. And that must feel really good for Hannah too.
And I love that Hannah is still being talked about on this show. You just know know she fucking lives for it.
Like they tried to destroy her life.

They almost did.

They almost did.

And you know she just fucking lives for this show.

That is so funny.

It really is. It's kind of a Phoenix rising from the ashes type of story, which you love to see.

Yeah.

Justice being served.

So the big kerfuffle is next week between Kyle and Paige.

And let me tell you, Kyle is not a worthy adversary. Like he, Paige is so intellectually, like she's a good fighter.
Yeah. She uses her words well.
She doesn't fight a lot. So when she does, she's mad.
Yeah. He is not a worthy adversary for her.
No, I think he like storms out and says, I'm done. Classic.
Yeah. He can barely string two words together.
Like I'm so looking forward to the verbal annihilation that will occur the evisceration of Kyle Cook yeah that's gonna be fun to watch so we'll see you next week yes we will tomorrow is the last episode of the week we've got Queenie and Weenie we've got Southern Charm Recap and then the new episodes of Love is Blind I think released tomorrow so we'll have the weekend to watch them and that will be Monday I feel like we're watching so much TV these days. It's like that season of the year where a lot of shows are on.
Yeah. Our shows.
Don't forget Southern Charms on tonight. I know you forgot.
Excuse me. Rewind the tapes.
I just said tomorrow we have Southern Charms. Oh, you did? Yeah.
Oh, I missed it. I was having my Southern Charm persecution complex.
Yes, you were. And I just want you to know, like, it is now in my brain as a part of our weekly schedule.

Like, it won't be forgotten.

And now that, like, Southern Charm is, like, so, you know, white loaded.

Prevalent.

I wasn't talking about it.

I thought you were saying Paige and Craig, too.

Oh, Paige and Craig, of course.

There's just intel coming in from all the different things.

From all.

It's so true.

Yeah, so I will be enjoying my Southern Charm this evening.

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