Love is Bland: The Toast, Wednesday, February 19th, 2025

Good morning, millennials. Welcome back to the chosen happy Wednesday.
It is hump day. Don't forget to hump someone you love.
And speaking of people that I love, it's Jackie and it's Claudia. And we are in a brand new studio.
As promised, we are doing the Lord's work and trying out all the podcast studios this area has to offer today. Some people try out all the pizza.
Some people try out all the bagels, coffee. We are trying out all the podcast studios.
And I feel like Goldie Rocks because this one feels just right. I know I'm kind of like loving.
So we do say that everywhere we go. I know we did love yesterday's.
We'll love today's too. The thing is, is it's really beautiful to see the business of podcasting booming in such a way.
Yeah. And having so many options for studios.

It's really beautiful.

I'm loving today's setup.

You know I love sitting behind a desk.

I am still feeling like not my most beautiful self.

I've even been blowing out my hair while I'm here.

So the sunglasses today, they may come off, but they're on for now.

She's on vacation time.

She's on island time.

I'm on island time.

And we have such an exciting episode.

So it's Wednesday, which means the vibes are high.

You know, we're humping someone you love.

Don't forget to get your pillow humping saddle and do just that. But we also are going to be doing a little bit of a TV recap.
Jackie and I unfortunately committed ourselves last night to watching the first two episodes of the new season of Love is Blind, which is something that doesn't sound so crazy, right? Yeah, we do it all the time. And I don't know why it was the hardest thing I've ever done in my life.
It's a show that I absolutely love. And I was actually really excited for Minnesota.
I thought, you know, we'd really get to know the elk of Minnesotans. And unfortunately, I think we did.
And I think it's not a good elk because, oh my God, so dreadful. We will be doing so.
Jack and I both watched the first two episodes, although I did watch the first like five minutes of the third episode because we finally got a reveal. And I also did see a clip of a woman.
It's definitely a spoiler for later in the season, but it's what's happening. And I'll talk about what I saw.
So that'll be at the end of the show. But in case you haven't seen it yet, you can we'll have timestamps in the podcast description.
And the Love is Blind first two episode season recap is at the end of today's episode during the TV recap section. It was truly one of the worst experiences of my life, just so you know.
And I hate to like always be so negative, but that is the energy. I hate to always be so truthful.
I hate to always be forced to speak my truth. Yeah, but there's no other way around it.
Like it was really bad. Apparently it's like six episodes of pods of nonsense about these people who really think that both liking Taco Bell like means that you should spend your life with someone.
No, it's almost like you asked AI to generate a season of Love is Blind that is giving like chuggy millennial. Everything was like, oh my God, I'm such a foodie.
Like, okay, who isn't? I was bullied too. My dad also makes really good steak.
Yeah, it was so bland. I love Christmas.
So vanilla. And every time they agreed on something that was like so basic, being like, I love oxygen.
The things that they agree on do not make a relationship and they're not having deep enough conversations or I hope they're having deep conversations and we're not seeing them, but they're literally showing us every time someone farts. Oh my God, I don't remember this much conversation.
I think a couple of things. I think it's hard to get into the later episodes of the show when we don't know why they had such established connections in the first place.
So I feel like Netflix is like, we want you guys to see how these people connected. That way when they are engaged or whatever, like there's just more, because I felt like in some of the other seasons, I'm like, we never saw them talk.

What do they have in common?

Like Netflix knows that people don't like tune in for the pod episodes.

It's everything that happens after that.

That's more interesting.

So I feel like in recent years, they've given us like two pod episodes.

And it's actually really not enough for us to understand these people.

So there is a perfect balance between amount of pod time we're seeing while also retaining entertainment value. And they have so taken it too far this time.
And then it's also about dollars and cents watch time. They're just trying to beef up these episodes.
They have more streaming hours. They're trying to beef it up in Mexico.
I fucking love Mexico. They're going to Honduras.
I love Honduras. When they all meet in person.
When they're on island time. And they have to like sleep in the same bed as an actual stranger.
And when they meet their fellow castmates and they're looking them up and down and talking. Best part.
Best part. More honeymoon.
Less pods. But I understand that the pods are the foundation of the show.
There is a way to do it. They're not doing it well.
So we'll get into the TV recap. Yeah.
That wasn't it. We will get into it.
And then other than that, it's just another great morning commuting with my girl, going to work. Something really funny happened this morning.
You guys. Okay.
So I thought we were recording at 1030, not 10 o'clock. So I got here like super early.
And I was just, I got a pargy parking spot like right out front. And it was a spot right in front of me.
So I was like, I wasn't holding it. But if anybody came by, I would have been like, my sister is really special.
Like, please, she needs this spot. She would have said seats taken.
So Jackie arrives. I'm like, parjee.
And she's like, she hesitates. She looks at the spot.
She's like, I don't know. In a parallel park, it's like a little small.
And as she's hesitating, somebody in actually the same exact car as you. White Model Y.
White Model Y Tesla comes and takes the spot. So this thing that I worked so hard to.
I still would have had to turn around. I was on the wrong side of the street.
So like, even if I didn't hesitate, he still would have gotten the spot. And I'm happy for him.
He who hesitates is lost. I love to see a Model Y thriving in this world.
He crushed that parking, by the way. He didn't even have to readjust the parallel.
That's really crazy. So then I drive a little bit more down the street and there's a beautiful spot, Parchi spot, just across the way from Cojur's.
I think, I think, let me tell you my POV, okay? Because I'm like, I'm on FaceTime. I'm fixing my makeup.
I'm just like, you know, making, I knew you were going to take a while to park wherever you went. And I'm like, damn, she's really taking a long time.
So I look at my rear view mirror and I see her standing in the street behind me and your car is parking itself. And I'm like, damn, these new cars are really sick.
And the car is moving and twisting and turning and getting into the spot. I'm like, that is really cool to see like in action.
I know that there are cars that park themselves. You've heard about such things.
I've never seen it. And I'm like, that's my sister, the ingenue, like picking herself up by her bootstraps and using the self-parking.
And I'm still watching. And then I see somebody's hands on the wheel and you're standing out on the curb.
I'm like, wait, I think there's a person in her car. There was a person in my car.
Let me tell you what happened. So I found a cute parking spot.
Perfect for me. Super cute.
Right in front of the office. And I've never parallel parked by myself before.
So I had no clue what I was doing. And I was like, beep, boop, beep, boop.
Like in she, like really struggling to get into this parking spot. There was a woman on the curb with her two kids.
And at a certain point she sees me struggling and she's trying to give me like, she's like, pull up here. Okay.
And then she went behind my car. She's like, drive back here.
And I really wasn't making any headway. And then she comes around to the door.
She's like, get out of the car. And she got in my car and she parked it.
And of course I'm like, wait, is this woman going to steal my car? But she left her kids on the side. She left her kids.
So like, I think it was fair collateral. I'm watching i'm watching the kids you have my car she's parking the car she parked my car and they moved on with my day it was a little scary when she was in there she like and then she pulled up when we were coming in from the back i'm like she's driving away literally but no she did the damn thing no it was mothers helping mothers women supporting women i love to see it yeah and she knew i told her it's my first time parallel parking like duh and her kid was like when she was done she was like good job trying to drive she said that to you the kid that's what the kid said to me good job trying to drive she by the way kids are one thing and it's honest and she you did try and she's actually being nice saying good job because you didn't even do it sweet girl it should have been bad job trying to trying to drive.
Well, tell her I had a commute. I did a good job all this way.
She doesn't know you're a commuter. Yeah.
So I'm going to learn how to parallel park. My car does have like a parking assistance feature.
I've never used it. Maybe that's tomorrow.
My car does have it as well. My car at home.
And what does that do? Does it beep boop bop in? Parallel parks. And having said that, the one time I tried to use it, it said feature not available.
So I don't know why. Classic feature not available.
Also, these new cars have 360 degree wheels like the Hummer that you rented. And so the wheels can just turn towards the curb and you can skrrr in.
That's the kind of car I need. I never really understood why wheels couldn't go perpendicular to the car.
Yeah, they just did it with luggage. And look, we're all like rolling through the airport.
You're right. What away suitcase did for the 360 degree wheel.
Somebody needs to do GM needs to do for the car. I think I saw a video of like a bunch of Mercedes is doing donuts in Vegas with their 360 degree wheels.
I think the Hummer does it. I think maybe the Cybertruck does it.
Maybe I should call Jerry and say, Gerald. What if you just call Jerry up? Every time something happens in my life, I'm like, Jerry, I think we need a Cybertruck.
And they don't pay Jerry enough for that. No, they don't.
Jerry is also my therapist. Jerry, Jerry, Jerry.
I haven't heard from him in a while, I feel like. I always, for some reason, the fact that Jerry Springer passed away is a fact that doesn't stick in my brain.
And I find myself constantly being reminded of it and getting sad all over again. That's hard.
And I'm sorry that his Netflix documentary didn't take off. I saw it on the homepage and I was like, well, if everybody starts talking about it, I'll watch it.
I didn't hear a word. Not everyone can be Martha.
Jerry deserves more than that. But I also feel like with Jerry, Jerry is who meets the eye.
There's not a subplot. There's not all these things that you need to know about Jerry.
Like we thought he's a good guy. I think he is a good guy.
There's not all this stuff that we don't know. You know, I hate to be so obnoxious.
You know, like every time. You went to the Jerry Springer show.
Every time we talk about a celebrity, I'm like, oh yeah, I just ran into him. You know, I saw Connor Kennedy and his military mates at Zero Bond.
But I did meet Jerry Springer. But not at Zero Bond.
Not at Zero Bond. At the Jerry Springer show.
So that's what makes this story unlike any other story. Yeah, but I know it sounds like, well, Claudia, anybody could just go to the Jerry Springer show.
Why are you special? And that's true. Anybody can.
But not everybody gets invited back to Jerry's office because the social media manager listened to our podcast. And Jerry was so nice.
He talked to me and my friends. You know, you forget because he plays this character.
He's just kind of this old Jewish guy. He gives very much Cat's Diner energy.
Yeah. And he said, congrats on all your success.
I hope I never see you on my show. Have a good day.
And I said, thank you, Jerry. And you honored that wish.
Look at me, thriving. And now it's too late.
They need to rip. You couldn't even go on his show.
You know how they like are,

they keep old franchises alive with new,

you know, Ryan Seacrest on.

Now, I guess it's called the Jerry Springer show.

So I don't know who else could do it besides Jerry,

but I would love to see a millennial.

Maybe Jerry O'Connell and they call it Jerry.

Wait, that's a brilliant idea.

They don't, they don't ask me enough.

And I feel like the networks are always looking for like where to put Jerry O'Connell. Yeah.
No, he's like ready, willing and able to be on television. RWA.
And nobody asked me because I would just tell them that straight up. People don't want to hear hard truths, Jackie.
No, and nobody wants to ask for help. They just think they know what the viewers want to see and they don't.
And that's why we got six episodes of pods. It pretty much comes back to the six episodes of pods.
I will say I'm having a lot of trouble sleeping at this stage of my pregnancy. Last night I threw up in my sleep and like woke up choking on my own vomit.
Acid reflux. I also woke up three times to pee.
I woke up with heartburn. Like it was just a never ending evening.
But I did want to thank Love is Blind because the first few hours of sleep were like truly dreamless, peaceful, wonderful because they gave me nothing. You were so bored you were lulled into a deep sleep.
A dreamless sleep. They didn't stimulate my brain at all.
No, that's sometimes what happens. If I'm reading a book or I'm watching a TV show, when I am sleeping, I am in whatever that is.
But when it's a good TV show. When it's anything remotely engaging and stimulating.
But yeah, with this, and then like the next morning, it's like the first thing I'm thinking about. With this, I'm like, hmm, what did I do last night? No, no.
I have this terrible feeling that something awful happened to me last night. And when I woke up, I was like, why is there this heaviness on my chest? And it was because I spent three hours watching the worst television I've ever watched.
And then I have to wake up and talk about it. Yeah, I spent legit four hours and I got through an episode and a half.
Feel free to spoil anything. Like I could give a rip.
I know the best part of Love is Blind is like catching up and then going on social media and reading the funny tweets and people were being so funny on Twitter. And usually I don't do that until I'm fully caught up, but I actually don't care.
No, I don't care. Yeah.
So, oh, good luck getting me to remember anyone's names. I did write it down because I like I, short guy is Daniel.
Of course. Love him.
Ben Platt. Wait, who's Ben Platt? Alex? No, Alex.
Who was bullied? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he was bullied for not being Ben Platt.
That's actually such a good call. He was literally Ben Platt.
Oh, my God, that's funny. So, yeah, I think they all have like little monikers and there's ways to remember them.
The girls, it's a really I think the guys is harder I don't know the girls like who's the girl David Daniel who's the teacher who's like trying to get with that guy who's an asshole and it's like the teacher and the asshole do not go together I wrote her name down and then she's always wearing like with her breasts like a v-neck she's always wearing cleavage okay so Dave is talking to Molly and Lauren Lauren is her name okay her name is Lauren that's hard to remember oh and nobody has like a special name you know it's like Laura Ashley Sarah and I didn't remember Molly's name but of course she's the redhead with the bangs yeah I like when people look different you know like Madison and the other blonde like they all look the same and then there was the girl who was laying there in the jeans with blonde hair Sarah maybe a Sarah

Sarah blonde and the other blonde like they all look the same. And then there was the girl who was laying there in the jeans with blonde hair.

Sarah.

Maybe a Sarah. Sarah blonde girl.

She's talking to Ben who's very religious and her

sister's gay. Yes her sister is gay.

That's a good way to remember her.

It's like nobody has anything

like individualistic about them.

And then there's the girl

who's a dancer not a singer.

The NBA dancer? Yeah. I don't know her name but she's a dancer yeah i said these are my notes memorable devin likes britanni britanni is not the dancer no britanni is a former basketball player and britanni is also b dot yes and devin is also d buck devin likes the other girl who's an nba dancer i didn't write down her name.
But this is not the Love is Blind recap. No, no, no.
Okay. So let's just, we have like shit to do, right? We have shit to do.
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Just something to think about brand managers. And brand managers, is t-u-r-t yeah turt our first story some legal news asap rocky jumps into tearful rihanna's arms after being found not guilty in his shooting trial i just want to say this is just another reason why all states should legally allow you to film courtrooms are you are there some states where you're not allowed to even like film with your phone? Yeah, of course.
Like no media allowed. And that's why we get court cartoons.
Got it. It depends on the state.
But like, but media is different than just like a proud mom with her phone. Oh, sorry.
No one is allowed to proud mom with their phone. But media cameras are allowed into certain states.
Got it. Johnny Depp, the whole thing being televised.
Of course, of course. I think New York is a state where you are not allowed to do that.
This was in LA, so I'm assuming California is a pro-media state. So he was overwhelmed with excitement after receiving his not guilty verdict in his shooting trial on Tuesday as he was seen jumping into longtime girlfriend Rihanna's arms upon hearing the news.
Yeah, he literally jumped over the banister. It was kind of a crazy video.
To give Riri a hug. I mean, it's very exciting news.
It's huge. To be a free man versus he was looking at 24 years in prison.
No, and it was like pretty serious charges. Right.
Like two shootings. Right.
And he was found not guilty on both counts. There was a lot to celebrate.
His lawyers looked really pleased with themselves. The first person he hugged was actually his lawyer, but I think she was just kind of in the way to Rihanna.
I saw a woman that he hugged. I thought it was like a mother.
Oh, oh, oh, no. So like all his friends and family were like behind this banister.
And then his big ass legal team was like in front of the banister at the desk. So on his way to Rihanna, and I think maybe his mother, there was a blonde lady who was totally like a clerk, like a lawyer.
Okay. And she got the first hug technically.
That's nice. But that's just because of where she was.
She was kind of a victim of circumstance. Yeah.
So now this goes back to the question, like the NFL players who hug their girlfriends and their wives. I think the order of how it went was appropriate.
They're not married, but they might as well be. They're long-term partners.
They have two kids together. That's his wife.
I'm not going to like nitpick. That's your partner for life.
You have two kids together. They're like extremely supportive of one another in good times and in bad.
Yeah. And I'm really happy for them.
I never doubted him for a second. I don't know a single detail about the case, but I never doubted him.
I didn't have an opportunity to doubt him or believe him because I don't know a single detail about the case. Yeah, I feel like this is like big celebrity case where like we're all talking about it.
But by the way we're literally not talking about it. No we're talking about like the verdict and we're talking about the fact because Rihanna's been like coming in and out.
We talked about the Girardi of it all and then the verdict and seriously in the time in between on a grand scale like this was not headline news. No it wasn't but mostly um anytime it was because of Rihanna.
Like she showed up in a look every day to court. She brought her son one day, which, you know, there's a lot of conversation about whether that was appropriate or not.
Was it a strategic legal move? Like, look, he's a father. Right.
I thought it was fine. Yeah.
To be honest, I see these photos now, but like this was not headline news. Not as big as it should have been.
Yeah. But it's also because like AS$AP Rocky is literally on his own.
He's like, I know he's like accomplished but he's really not famous these days for anything other than being Rihanna's partner. But like the Rihanna of it all makes it huge.
Makes it huge yet it wasn't. Yet it wasn't.
Which I think was also probably good for the case because then it's like sometimes when it gets so big the judge feels like he has to make an example again the you know and people start so i think operating under the radar is good yeah the way you just said good you sounded like tamra i don't think he's good for you what did i say you said i think it's good like you just said good weird oh okay so can i don't think he's good for you can i breathe or no nah nah so happy for the rocky family i'm glad this chapter's't into this. It's very stressful.
Yeah. And just as somebody who looks like a fan of them as a couple and a family, like this is not an era I was particularly like into.
It wasn't fabulous. It wasn't fun.
It wasn't fresh. It was sad.
Somebody got shot. Like I'm very much looking forward to them putting this behind them and I'm sure they feel the same way.
Yeah. Our next story is some more legal news.
Big day for the courts. Big day for the Claudias.

Well, big day for people who have just been like

waiting for Blake Lively to respond.

To do something.

Instead of like looking guilty and hiding.

And that's why I liked the SNL thing

because it's like finally,

even if people didn't like it,

like people like people who fight back

and defend themselves.

And so she did that in the public way at SNL

and now she's doing it in the courts.

So Blake Lively has filed an amended complaint against Justin Baldoni, saying it wasn't just me who felt uncomfortable. Blake Lively says Justin Baldoni not only sexually harassed her, but he also made two other women feel uncomfortable on the set of It Ends With Us, and both are willing to testify against him at trial, according to a new court filing.
Last night, Blake filed an amended complaint to her original lawsuit against Justin, which lays out new allegations that paint him in a negative light. In the 141-page document, she says she was not alone in complaining about Baldoni and raising concerns about his behavior during their work together on the movie produced by Sony and Wayfarer starting in 2023.
She says he, quote, acknowledged the complaints in writing at the time, which runs contrary to his current narrative that he has, quote, invented. Blake says Justin knew that women other than Miss Lively were also uncomfortable and had complained about his behavior.
Now, the Hollywood Reporter states that the two actresses who had complained about Justin's behavior, they said unconfirmed. But like sources are saying that it's Jenny Slate and that young blonde girl, Isabella, who played young Lily.
Yes, there aren't many other women in the movie. That's true.
I mean, it could have been an extra. It could have been extras.
But when it comes to leading female actresses who were working with Justin on an everyday basis, there really aren't that many. That's actually such a good point.
I guess by default, it has to be them. Like, who else could it be in a leading role? And I'm just going back to the book.
Did it say leading? No, it didn't. But in a way that more than an extra.
Like Lily's mom? Not the waitress had a restaurant. That was Atlas.
Lily's mom. That's literally the only woman in the book.
Yeah, yeah. Other than these three.
Well, I think also it's easy to... We know Jenny Slate has beef.
Correct. She unfollowed him.
She's been very distant. She's vocally supported Blake Lively.
So I think that if we had to guess, I would have guessed her. It's a good guess.
It's a good guess. So the thing is, I feel like, like as somebody who has up until this point, definitely not been on team Justin, it's nice to see Blake like defending herself.
But at the end of the day, like I do feel like she's lost already. And there's, I don't know what know what she could say what she could prove what she could file that would change people's minds honestly well this definitely helps her case I know but like people don't believe that she was sexually harassed it doesn't matter what people believe I mean yes it does but like her case yeah no by the way and I'm very curious to see like what the law says but right now we're we're in in the streets like we're in the media just when they did the SNL thing, there was like literally a hundred articles the next day that were all negative about Blake.
Like she's losing. If people don't believe that she was sexually harassed, not if, people don't believe that, period.
If there are two other women on set who come forward and say that they experienced sexual harassment as well, that is a major difference. Checking her column and corroborating her story.
just is so if that happened that changes things yeah and if they well if people refuse if people refuse to believe it or believe it then that's on them but like that changes the story because then it's not just like Blake's perception or her experience it's a pattern and there's literally only three young women on the set right whom is 23, which is like, and it's like her first time in Hollywood, her first big gig, like how traumatizing. Allegedly.
Allegedly, of course. Frog got your throat? Classic Jacks.
Take a sip of the coffee. I choked on my, no, I'm seriously like choking on all my own.
fluids these days like my own food and my own saliva my own vomit it's really just been an amazing time being a woman is amazing take a sip of something perhaps yeah yeah per chance i think someone's bringing you a water also because i know you don't like the coffee today i'm okay thank you so much i'm at so much drama much drama. As somebody who has just kind of been waiting for Blake Lively to do something, I'm extremely grateful that she just kind of stepped her pussy up.
This is definitely, you know, a big check for Team Blake that she is responding, that it seems like, you know, there's more where this comes from. Yeah, and the thing is the whole time to me is that people have been going back and forth on like everybody's personalities, but something that you really couldn't deny because it was both in her claim and then his lawsuit was like agreeing that this meeting had happened after the SAG-AFTRA strike being like, before we come back to work, like we all need to agree that like these things need to stop happening.
And he agreed to it. So to me, is it like an admission that Blake was telling the truth? Not, not necessarily.
I feel like I could see different ways that that could happen if like uh assuming she's a liar which I'm not saying that she is but like let's say this person's a liar they might have had a meeting Justin just wants to get this movie done right so he just agrees to stuff agree whatever right just do your job right there's a million things that could have happened to me that's not like a confirmation no not anymore no okay to me it was and i'm very curious if this at all moves the needle for people who thought like blively was lying about being sexually harassed i think that we're back in the game we've got us so we've got a match now yeah have you seen it change the rhetoric online i don't read like I read rhetoric online and I don't know if I'm in my own echo chamber or I only follow people who are like of sound mind. I don't get a bunch of like idiots and their opinions because I don't give a shit.
And your algorithm knows better. My algorithm knows better.
So I I'm not like following in the ping pong match of public opinion, but as someone in my own,

I was very much,

not very much.

I'm not very much anything on this.

I was moving over here.

Now I'm moving.

Suede.

And now I think we've got ourselves a match when it was looking very uneven.

So you represent like the undecided contingency.

And so you think that this,

at least a little bit is like momentum in Blake's.

Yeah.

Got it.

Okay.

Like for me,

I'm like,

okay,

Blake's back in the game. I also just think it's kind of a big deal.
Not that it's a game. This is very serious.
Of course. Blake's.
Yeah. Got it.
Okay. Like for me, I'm like, okay, Blake's back in the game.

I also just think it's kind of a big deal.

Not that it's a game.

This is very serious allegations.

Of course, of course.

It's a metaphor.

I do think it's a big deal that these two girls would agree to testify because honestly,

after watching this whole thing, who the fuck would want to get involved?

Yes, but that's where principles come in.

Scruples.

And it's nice when people are scrupled and they're like, I can't see this go down this

way.

What's unfortunate is like it's Hollywood and there aren't any scruples. There's not a scruple to be found.
And it's like, oh, I don't care if Blake goes down. I'm not going down with her.
I got, you know. My career to think about.
Yeah, I've got movies to shoot. So I think that sometimes it's like when you see something wrong happening, you can't help but speak up.
Especially if you were a victim yourself. Yeah.
Yeah. As opposed to just burying it down maybe like a studio will be like if you don't we'll get you here i don't know why i just think so low of people in hollywood i think that like you know speaking your truth is admirable yes but i also sometimes like find sometimes you have to speak up like it'll kill you it doesn't matter yeah i feel like sometimes that happens to people you're only as sick as your secrets it's literally like what lisa i think about about what Lisa Reina said all the time.
What did she say? She randomly like, and people were like, she's so crazy. Like, if I don't say this thing, she's like, it's going to give me cancer.
It was like, and it was like dumb what she was talking about. But things like that, like make you physically ill.
Yeah. No, and I mean, I feel that way sometimes where it's like, I don't care what this means.
Like I'm going to say it because it's so wrong not to.

Right.

You feel compelled by just like your ethics, your conscience.

Yeah.

And I think that conscience is a powerful thing.

It is when you have one.

Correct.

So we'll see what happens next.

Yeah, I am curious.

I mean, this was only filed this morning.

So like there hasn't been enough time for opinions to change or just like rhetoric to

change.

I am really curious to me, the most interesting part, and this is not interesting, obviously

it's like a tragedy, but the most interesting part of this whole saga is like seeing how it plays out on social media, especially like with the allegations of astroturfing or whatever. Um, I'd be very curious to see like if this at all moves the needle.
And I was having this conversation with somebody yesterday about how like this entire, it ends with us drama is a woman's issue, right? It was women who read the book and made it popular. It was and saw the movie it's women who are sitting around having these conversations like i don't know what two straight guys who are talking about like did you see the counterclaim that blake lively dropped um so this is very much like a woman's issue about an issue that affects mostly women sexual harassment domestic violence things like that and so it has been wildly interesting to see conversations being had about it all by women and how Blake wasn't really like universally believed, whereas like up until this point, it was, you know, believe women and and things of that nature.
And that's not the case here. So it's just been like a kind of like a social experiment to watch.
Yeah, I guess things are changing in that sense. But I do think, you know, this blanket believe women like women could lie.
So that doesn't really work and probably never did. And they could also be telling the truth.
But just like you got to back it up. Right.
Right. You know, our next story, Mindy Kaling got a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame.
She brought BJ Novak with her. Alleged baby daddy Novak.
Well, they call him the godfather. The BD Novak.
He's her children's godfather. She has not shared who her children's father is, so of course people think.
I just want to say, as Mindy Kaling's number one fan, I actually don't think that BJ Novak is her baby's father. One, because if he was, you wouldn't make him the godfather.
Two, it's a little complicated, you know? No, you wouldn't make him the godfather. Like, you want him to have a role in your kids' lives.
He's obviously not taking on the role of father because he doesn't want to, like, you know, or else you'd be a family. Like, not everyone who gives their sperm, like, wants to be a full-time dad, but, like, wants to help out a friend in need and procreate.
Yeah, I just think, like, a lot of women. I think godfather is exactly what you'd call him.
Just kind of, like, to cover it up. No, cover it up, but like give that person a role in your children's life.
But then it's also just like Uncle BJ. Like he doesn't need to be so official, you know? I don't know.
Those titles are transient uncle. Like if he's the Godfather, he's always the Godfather.
There were also rumors a few years ago that they had stopped being friends. So I feel like it's such an unnecessary complication.
If you're like a woman of a certain age and certain success who wants to have children on her own, like there are so many options for you as opposed to – and they're like good options, you know, where you can like get really vetted sperm and things like that. To go the route of somebody you know personally adds a real layer of complications that some people don't have the luxury of like some – it's expensive to do it the other way.
Yeah. Mindy Kaling has that option.
You don't think a trusted friend is preferred? Well, a trusted friend in Hollywood, like everybody's a snake. They did have like a brief period where they weren't speaking.
I just think Mindy Kaling's like a little smarter than that. I really don't think that he's the father.
You are not the father. I don't know enough to say, but I think he would be a great choice like for her, for a trusted friend would be preferred to anonymous, right? Yeah, but like anonymous sperm, like when you go through like the proper channels, like, yeah, it's technically like a stranger, but it's super vetted.
It's really- Yes, no, no, no. It's a beautiful thing.
And it's a good option. So is a trusted friend.
Yeah, but it's a good option, sorry, with no potential complications. Unless, I do always wonder like 23andMe.
Yeah. How that affects sperm donors.
Yeah, no, it affects them all the time. You don't see all these stories.
Man had 80 kids. They all got together for a reunion.
They're all best friends. It's literally a documentary on Hulu.
It's also a movie with Vince Vaughn. Yes, it is.
That's like people's favorite trope is like the sperm donor in college. Right.
100 kids. Right.
I feel like we do talk about it enough. Okay.
Well, I guess the point of the story is not who her dad is.

And between Deer Toasters, also I want to say there's been like a lot of conspiracy.

I've seen a lot of chatter that like Deer Toasters is.

Is an industry plant.

No, is like fabricated.

Either we make them up or other people make them up.

I need to say we've never made up a Deer Toasters in our lives.

Now, if people are writing in with fake stories, we could smell out. Like, there are some that are so stupid.
We don't choose them. I've never, ever thought that.
Everything that we read, I'm like, that's a tough situation. 1,000%.
I've never thought that. By the way, on Swear On, give me a Bible.
We have never, ever made up a submission. Never.
If we weren't getting submissions, we would just not do it. We'd say there's no demand.

Like, problem solved.

Also, I do want to say that this is a great opportunity that last week there was a Dear Toasters about a girl who read through her husband's text with his mother.

And he was, like, being really weird about their sex life.

And it didn't occur to either of us.

But so many people in the comments were like, girls, it's probably not his mom that he's texting.

It's, like, a girl, a hooker.

And he's put her name in as mom. Because, like, no one's going to read that text being like oh he's cheating on me with his mother and i thought that was a good call i didn't think of it as a potential he was talking about his wife he was talking about like sex with his wife yeah so maybe it was a sex therapist that he wrote mom because he didn't want her to know but i don't think it was that's not how you talk to your mistress i'm just saying it was a sex therapist that he wrote mom because he didn't want her to know.
But I don't think it was. That's not how you talk to your mistress.
I'm just saying it was a good theory. It's not.
It's devoid of facts. He was talking about his wife.
Yeah, but like people are freaks. Like I think if anything was like a little, you know, mother's helper.
Well, that's what we thought. Like normal people.
Or like maybe a hooker that is helping you through a tough time get more intimate with your wife like it's all in service to the wife it's not just an affair it's not as cut and dry it's kind of like pretty woman no yeah because at first it was you just you know an exchange but then it's true love no it's kind of like nothing i've ever seen no you know what it is you ever see that movie with helen hunt she plays a sex therapist okay for like paraplegics or people who are like physically unable yeah it's called the sessions and that sounds like but it's she's her name Cheryl Green. She's a sex surrogate.
It's actually based on a true story. I forget.
Her patient is paraplegic or something. And, of course, they end up falling in love.
It's very beautiful. So it's kind of like that.
That's really beautiful. Okay.
Well, we'll just have to wait for the update. Kind of a love story for the ages.
Also, just check the phone number of the contact mom. It's very simple stuff.
Give it a ring. The story at hand is that Mindy Kaelin got a...
Star on the Walk of Fame. Earned.
Oh, earned beyond. I can't believe she didn't even have one.
If not just for her self as an actress, when you think about Mindy Project, The Office, what she's contributed to modern television, Sex Lives of College Girls. She's doing Lili Blonde, too, if it ever comes out.
Three. Three.
And Never Have I Ever on Netflix. Like, true, true queen.
Yeah. So it's her time.
And of course, like, she should already have one, but like, she has to get one, you know? Like, everyone has their time. And the process of the Hollywood Walk of Fame is so weird.
It's not like what you would think. And the people who get it, like it's always so delayed.
I think they have like a really high bar, which I appreciate. Yeah, no, I think you have to be extremely established to the point of, to the point where it's like, how did they not have one already? Right, unignorable.
Yeah, and so I think that's good. There's no one that's just like a flash in the pan, even the 10-year flash.
Yeah, yeah. I want a 20-year flash.
When are oscars don't you feel like they were postponed because the fires yeah i just feel like i've stopped caring i feel like they're typically in march and it's still february that feels right yeah you can't stop caring you watched all those bad movies i know for what like i watched amelia perez and love is blind And Netflix cut me a check for the time that I have wasted losing brain cells with your content. Yeah.
Penis to vagina, vagina to penis. That was such a good song.
Should we stream it? If you want. Do you know what the song is called? Like the title of the song? You're going to be shocked.
Labioplasty? la vaginoplasty oh so it's just um the spanish version of labia sorry excuse me la vaginoplastia feminine the feminine plastia stream it oh you're gonna play it and you're gonna you're gonna wind up paying netflix oh you think we'll get after they should be paying you okay so i'll forget'll forget it. Let's get in trouble to our next story.
You're just feeling bold because you have a computer. I feel different.
You know, I'm wearing my sunglasses. You're like Jamie on Joe Rogan, just like looking things up.
I'm literally like Tim Dillon and you are, what's his assistant same? Like Ben? Yeah, for sure. Ben.
Um, something about sunglasses, sunglasses and podcasting is a special breed.

I actually spoke to Tim Dillon this morning because he said it was funny that I looked like him.

And I get why he does it.

You definitely feel like a different person.

You can kind of say shit because your eyes are covered.

You have a layer of protection.

You can't see the haters.

It also feels anonymous.

People who tell you to kill yourself and anonymously comment it.

I kind of understand them right now because I have sort of this sheet over me.

You have anonymity.

Yeah. My name is Claudia.
and I'm wearing sunglasses yeah I mean so if I'm if it feels like I'm acting different that's why should I take them off and see like if my vibe changes sure and they'd like to see those beautiful eyes I'm like the nerd who takes off his glasses and everybody realizes he's handsome it's true a princess smile don't smile don't take off your sunglasses what should i do i know like if i now i'm when i go back and watch the episode whatever i do i'm gonna be like i should have kept them on or i should have taken them off should we plug no. Even though we never look at the monitor? No, no, no.
Okay. I'll move on to the next story.
So just like leave them on. I'll make the decision.
That way, if you regret it, you could blame me. What's the number story? Four.
Parch. Nike teams up with Kim Kardashian shapewear brand Skims as it looks to reach more women.
So Nike and Skims have signed like a serious partnership, a long-term partnership to launch a new brand called Nike Skims. I feel like they really could have workshopped the name.
I agree. It's one word, capital N, lowercase I-K-E, capital Skims.
Nike Skims. It should be called like Psyche or Nims.
Yeah. I don't know.
It's not a good name. I don't know.
They love a name like this, though. This is so Nike Skims.
There's too many Ks. There's two Ks.
It's like, it's a bumpy word, Nike Skims. It's weird.
It doesn't roll off the tongue. Especially if you were to lowercase everything, it's like, Nike Skims.
Nike Skims. If we were to pronounce things the way they should be pronounced.
Nike Skims. That's why they had to do all this capitalization.
Otherwise, it's Nick Eskims. And what about an X? Like Nike X Skims.
That also is chunky. The thing is, it's not really an X at this point.
Because it's its own company. Yeah, it's not a short-term collaboration.
It's a new brand. The new brand will include a collection of apparel, footwear, and accessories that will debut this spring with a global rollout planned for 2026.
Now, I think this is really great for Kim's wallet. For Kim's self.
And also for the customers when things, like they just did a collab with North Face. I know Margot Washtray got some things, but like it sells out in two seconds.
Like Nike is great for distribution. They have a million stores.
They have a lot of product. Like whatever they make, people will be able to get it.
And I think it will be like top quality fabric. I think this is really really just makes a lot of sense it's so great for Nike because Skims is so cool and it's so great for Skims because Nike is so legit and Skims has been doing a couple of things that like really are moving them out of just like the women's underwear space and into all different things like they're the official underwear of the NBA like if you watch any NBA game their logo is literally on the court it's so crazy so this is just like adding an air of legitimacy to skims while also further entering this like kind of sports world yeah for some reason like performance wear performance yeah so the name is so terrible but the concept is not a bad idea although i don't understand what they're making what kind of business you win like socks apparel footwear oh sneakers right mikey makes sneakers oh Okay.
And like maybe they'll have like a cool, like they're comparing this to like Jordan. Yes.
Like she is the Michael Jordan of women. I mean, it could be men's too, but like I think when you think of it for women, like Michael Jordan is to Nike is to men what Kim Kardashian will be to Nike to women.
Hopefully. I think that feels right.
And in an age where like kind of everybody's really pushing women's sports, Caitlin Clark, the WNBA, things of that nature, Simone Biles, it's a good time. Lots of momentum for the, who do we think is going to be the face? Oh, I mean like it should be Kim because to me like the Caitlin Clark, like that's, she has her own shoe.
This isn't that. To me, this is like competes with Aloe and women's athleisure.
That's what it feels like to me. I mean, that space is huge.
Like aloe, lululemon. Yeah.
Because Caitlin Clark has her own shoe. This isn't for like, I mean, maybe they'll have women's athletes a part of it.
But this feels different. Okay.
That's actually a good point. I see it.
Now I understand what you're saying. The name really needs to be better.
Because when I. face.
She is the Jordan. Yeah.
Allie, you, I want to see a logo of her. And she's so like fit, sports, workout.
Yeah. But the name is really bad.
Now that I'm kind of understanding what it is, and if you are competing in that like wellness, women's wear, athleisure space, which is so big, Nike Skims is like such a harsh, ugly name. Whereas like, A not a bad name because it's like recognizable brands it's nike and skims like whatever um but it doesn't roll off the tongue it's not pargy and when you're not pargy you're large you know you're nargy.
Yeah. It's not good.
Yeah. Makes me sad.
But maybe, who knows, maybe in meetings they'll start to call it a nickname, then it'll rebrand. What do you think is the opposite, the antonym of pargy? Nargy? Nargy.
I guess. We need to workshop it.
Sound off in the comments, you guys. What's the opposite? Yucky.
Yeah, the antonym.com of pargy. I guess.
We need to workshop it. Sound off in the comments, you guys.
What's the opposite?

Yucky.

Yeah, the antonym.com of Pardee.

I guess it would be yucky.

I just wanted it to rhyme.

Yeah, but I feel like if it rhymes,

then it's part of the Pardee world.

Everything that rhymes with Pardee is Pardee.

Gargi.

Gargi Pardee.

Yeah.

Gargi Margi.

So it inherently needs to not rhyme.

It's yucky.

I think in tostalingo, it's yucky.

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You're welcome. Our fifth and final story, a little flirtatious news who knows what it means, but Glenn Powell and Lily Dreams.
Dreams. Lily James.
I loved Lily Dreams in Downton Abbey. You did? No, actually.
I don't know if she was right for the role her role specifically like the annoying younger cousin was so fucking annoying I take it back you're right she was dreadful Glenn Powell and Lily James though break into a fit of giggles as they leave a BAFTA's party together so Glenn Powell and Lily James were photographed in a car in the back of an SUV together leaving leaving the baftas they walked out at the same time but separately so we don't have photos of them walking together but like she's wearing his jacket they get getting in the same car they get into the same car and like they're laughing so they're in love um there has been a lot of speculation about who glenn powell's gonna date because on his rise to fame he was in a relationship for a pretty long time so he never was able to like use his celebrity and and his dating life to catapult him to another life because that's always how it happens and he really is like this big time hollywood movie star really one of the most eligible young men there was like those rumors about him and sydney sweeney but like he wasn't dating that was fake so we've never really seen him in a celebrity relationship this is the first time if it's a relationship let's let's operate like it is let's talk like it is i don't think that it I think that they were at the same party. They like got along and they're going to the next place together.
Where it goes from there, I don't know. Oh, I didn't consider that there would be another party after this party.
I just figured they would be going home. Or like nightcap, we're going to someone's place.
And that's very sexy nightcap. In the moment, just the two of us.
They're like, this is good for both of us. Like, let's get in the same car.
Why should we not? Like, even if this goes nowhere and they just either like hooked up or whatever, Like, this is good for both of us like let's get in the same car why should we not like even if this goes nowhere and they just either like hooked up or whatever like this is good this is good well okay so you're being like a little critical which is important this is me saying this is good is critical sorry not you're thinking critically cynical no you're thinking critically okay like you're saying it wasn't like this whirlwind romance but i'm i want to talk about it like it. Like let's say these two are together.
Or even just like casually dating. I love it so much, you know, because I've been waiting for Glenn Powell to do something like this.
And I like that he didn't, like we would have thought so, even the Sydney Sweeney thing, I'm like it's so obvious, you know, like two hot young people. Like Lee James is very much an accomplished actress.
And I think that Glenn Powell really wants to be taken seriously as like a one day, like an Oscar level actor. And I think that him, you know, swimming in the same pools, BAFTA, London, Lily James, like it's pargy.
It's well thought out. I like it.
I actually, the more I think about this, like, I think it's nothing. I think Glenn Powell likes to be seen with like, you know, talking to Gracie Abrams, talking to Sidney Sweeney.
I forgot about that. Like, I love him as an actor, but I just feel like he kind of loves these moments and they mean nothing to him.
And I don't know what he's actually up to. Wow.
So you hate Glenn Powell. That sounds like what you're saying.
You think low of Glenn Powell. No, because what he actually might be up to might be something amazing.
That he's not sharing with us? Yeah. Or not.
Or like he's using these young women for clout. Glenn would never.
Clout chaser. No, Jackie, let me tell you something.
Claudia, you know I love him. I know.
I'm really shocked to hear you say this. No, no.
I'm just like, until he's like really with someone, I'm seeing a lot of this. Party, having fun.
I like being spotted with you. It's like a good moment on du moi.
That's fair. And I like that for him.
What, only girls can do that? You'd love to see men in women-dominated fields. Like, this is fun.
Yeah. This is fun.
And as he should, like, I like when people use their dating life to catapult their careers. Like, I think that's really an interesting way of getting famous and of rising your star.
And Glenn, like, Glenn has the the roles. You know he has the looks.
But he needs like a Hollywood starlet. And he needs like a personal life that we can all get invested in because I don't know what Glenn does.
That's what I'm saying. And so by the way this is him getting us invested.
Like we talked about Gracie Abrams very briefly. This is something new.
We have a picture now. Like he is actually taking us with him.
You don't see it. You don't understand Glenn like I do.
I don't see the vision. Like where does Glenn even live? What does Glenn even do? I think Glenn lives in Austin.
I think he's kind of like a local hometown hero. In terms of what he does, I know he loves his family.
You know, all he does is hang out with his mom and his friends. And he stokes up each other's awesomeness.
That's what I think. I think he, I think he's stressed out.
Wow. And it's important that we not read into this too much.
I think he's cultivated like this perfect image. Life, yeah.
Because he's, no, image. He's so perfect.
Like, I love him. He's so perfect.
Yeah. And it must be like so hard to live up to that.
Like, what if Glenn Powell is imperfect? And does Glenn have a bad day? I'm sure Glenn has bad days and he's not allowed. And I'm sure he's one of actors where his team is like Glenn get up yeah even though I could also see Glenn having a really good team around him I don't know I could see him really getting sucked into a toxic whirlpool I just feel like you want something sinister to be going on here with Glenn and I can like almost tell you for certain that there's not like he's just he's just like a guy he's just laughing after this is what you're saying he's catching a ride home okay with a pretty girl pretty girls need to get home too or it's just being a gentleman taking her home like maybe her car got lost or whatever the jacket like they're telling us something yeah by the way the jacket okay not you turning me into a hater but the jacket is giving staged it's a little yeah especially because not to say that they don't get along and that they're not going to have a fun night together but they want us to know that.

Let's talk about the jacket

because actually there's no way

she needed the jacket inside the party.

Like parties are often really warm.

And so okay she needed the jacket

to walk from the curb to the car

where the car obviously has heat

if it's cold in London right now.

And look at the girl behind her shivering.

Like London didn't give her a jacket.

Okay so it was cold.

That looks like I literally thought

it was Pinchy Sorbo.

Yeah and it's February.

So it's cold. Wait let me see the pictures past the iPad.
Go ahead. Go ahead.
Because you know me. I love to like.
Oh. What are you thinking now? Let me just.
Just give me a minute because a picture says a thousand words and there's like 11 pictures. So we have 11,000 words.
Glenn Powell is so hot. Like that's the worst thing I'm thinking.
The party was inside. So there's no way she needed the jacket inside.
And also to be clear, she's wearing a blazer. So it's like two jackets.
But it's a crop top. So her belly might have been cold.
Belly's not the right word. She kind of reminds me and looks like, I'm sure we've said this before.
Who is her celebrity doppelganger? She has one. Grace Van Patten.
Yeah. Yeah.
They look like a lot alike. Like I could see them playing like sisters in a film or something.
In a twisted film where one goes missing and the other is pretending to be her. Correct.
They should make that movie. They did make that movie.
A simple favor. Yeah, we just watched it.
We just watched it. Yeah, I don't know.
So they first met in 2018. They played a married couple in something called the Guernsey Literary and Potato Peel Society.
Wait, I was about the Guernsey Literary and Potato Peel Society. It's based on a book and I was going to read it.
It's on my one to read. It's a historical fiction book.
Yeah. Wait, now I have to read it and watch the movie starring the two of them.
So they could also just be friends. Like they worked together in 2018.
The Guernsey Literary and Potato Peel Pie Society. That's far too long of a name for a film and that's why it wasn't successful.
It's quirky. And no, I think it was like a very popular book.
Oh, this looks so good. It's a historical fiction book.
I think it's like World War II and you know how the potato peel society was affected by like probably rations and like lack of potatoes the rations how does that affect society it's giving kitchen front if you're a redhead that means something to you and if you're not it's time for the love is blind recap where jackie and i are going not reading right you're watching the most dreadful season of a show that once was good and i feel like obviously we talk about this all time. Like some seasons are really amazing and some are fine.

Yeah.

There's never been one that's like unwatchable.

I just want to say though, the seasons being amazing happens after the pods.

Like one of my favorite seasons is Jimmy and Chelsea and Jessica.

Yep.

And it didn't get amazing until all that stuff happened back in North Carolina at the lake and the honeymoon. Yeah, but I don't remember the pod episodes feeling like teeth being pulled.
But they're always not the most interesting. Now, it's unfortunate they have so many pod episodes.
It is what it is. But whether the season will be good or not, we can't say.
I will say, though, that the trailer for the season, like someone saw me on Instagram and he knew what I looked like. And that's the clip that I'm seeing.
Do me to tell you who it is does it even matter because this already happened for don't tell me okay one of the girls no I said don't tell me but I'm not gonna tell you who oh yeah okay one of the girls is talking to camera they obviously got together and she's in one of the apartments and she was like when I saw him like I knew that he actually followed me on Instagram like a few months ago or whatever I remember seeing his profile I remember seeing a photo of him in front of a Christmas tree or something. So like she remembered what he looked like.
And she was like, and all this stuff is in my Instagram bio about things that I like. And I think that he knew who I was and what I looked like and maybe tailored all of his answers.
It's so romantic. However, nothing that's in your Instagram bio should be enough for someone to convince you that you're in love with them.
Like how is your bio? When you're going to get married to someone based on conversations, it should be about more than, I like pizza too. So he shouldn't have even been able to really get you by just that.
So I feel like she'll probably break up with him because she said, my God, I have to trust my gut. But I'm sorry.
Like if you fell for that, you fell for it. Well, in the first two episodes, we only get one engagement and then the first reveal happens in the first couple of minutes of the third episode, which I did watch.
Who is it? Joey, who is the long hair golden retriever. Oh, they're perfect for each other.
And Monica. They are perfect for each other.
The reveal was butt-clenchingly cringe, but because they're matching each other's level of freaky. It all went well.
It's not cringe for anything bad. I actually think they are a good couple.
I just want to say the first reveal is always the strongest couple. Yes, and so that's coming through.
They had actually good conversations about things that a couple should talk about. And they are physically matched.
Now, I had an actual physical reaction to something one of the girls said. And she's probably one of my least, she's definitely my least favorite person on the show.
Because every time she talks, it's exactly what you and I were saying at the top of this show. Like, you say something really bland and boring and you act like it's revolutionary conversation.
And it's the girl who said she, like, listened to Joe Rogan and the ant farm. Yeah.
And she was like, and maybe natural disasters are just, like, somebody shaking. Or superior beings.
Superior beings. And somebody, you know, shaking up our ant farm.
And then she kind of, like, left it silent for him to be like, whoa. And I was like, are you fucking dumb?

Like, it was seriously like, oh, yeah.

She was like, I have a lot of like high sober thoughts.

You know, I'm sober, but like I think like a high person.

I'm like, oh, you're so crazy.

Yeah.

If someone said those things to me, I'd say have a good day, sir.

Like, and I'd walk out of the room.

Not a match.

And my question is like, so he's kind of like down.

He's like, yeah, ant farm.

Oh, totally.

And are two people who are both ant farm people like should they be together or no like i feel like opposites attract and it's nice to have common interests but at what point are you just dating yourself and you're not supposed to do that i don't know if there's room in a relationship for two and farm people right but i feel like but i don't know if somebody who's not whatever can sleep next to somebody who is. It's a really good question you ask.
I don't know if there's room in a relationship for two ant farm people. But I don't know if somebody who's not an ant farm person can sleep next to somebody who is.
I completely agree. It's a really good question you ask.
I don't know. These are bottom of the barrel conversations that we're having about these people.
They have given us nothing. Now, I know we're only two episodes in.
And I would like to ask permission from our audience. Please let us stop watching this.
It's genuine psychological torture. It's uninteresting people.
There's no drama. Now there are people who are having mutual connections.
So like Dave, who's this guy who's like an asshole, but then was really nice. And like, there's always a Dave, a guy who's like, doesn't think.
Yeah. But Leo was like super transparent and almost like funny.
No. Remember that guy that, who was it that got with him? No.
Shame? A.D. was talking to this guy.
The one she ended up? No, not the one she ended up with. Okay.
Matthew. Yeah, of course.
He's a Matthew where it's like he thinks he's too good to be on the show, but he's going through the experiment, but it will not work out for him because ultimately he thinks it's stupid. Meanwhile, he has two connections.
One Molly, who's honestly connections as well right he's a cutie and then he's also connecting with lauren who was the girl who like took a year off she was a teacher she wasn't making a livable wage um she is vibing with dave and she at the end of the episode too like finds out that molly is too it's like oh my god it's almost like that's the concept of this fucking show right and when she somebody's like i feel like somebody molly says to, I feel like we don't have the same connection so I can tell you like I'm really vibing with Dave. Meanwhile, she's like literally talking to the other woman.
Her face, like she's so, like so backdressed. Like I can't be here.
Like I can't be here. That's the whole point of the show.
Yeah. Who do you think he should pick and who do you think he will pick? I don't think you should pick either of them i don't think that either of them are well suited because i don't think the person we're seeing is like really who he is right i think we got little glimpses like i work in medical aesthetics like i'm around a lot of botox who the fuck says that like yeah and also what does that mean people having very vague jobs i work in medical aesthetics do you engineer botox are you the receptionist at a med spa? And then his description says medical sales.

So I think he like sells parts for cosmetology.

And then the NBA dancer, she says she has a doctorate in healthcare administration.

She's like, people are really surprised when they find out I work in a hospital and then I'm a doctor.

Well, a doctor who works in a hospital is different than somebody with a doctorate.

Yeah.

So I just feel like everybody's very misleading about their jobs. But I do really like Devin.
That's who's talking to? Britanni and NBA dancer. He is like, loves his job.
He loves kids. He loves basketball.
He just wants everybody to love basketball and the kids as much. He's a youth sports.
I really like him. I think he's like a P-jump.
He's just really young and all the women he's talking to are much older. Oh yeah, and he went to the same high school.
And she was like, five years later. Okay, It's not that many years.
Yeah, but that's like crazy. But also good because they don't know each other.
Yeah, it's annoying. I guess that's like what happens if you go to like a smaller town to do this.
Like people know each other. No, and so we need to talk about...
But I also like the small town elements because there's a lot of common ground. And sometimes people want to stay where they are and meet someone where they are.
So like not everything has to be like chicago or la but we need to talk about the implications of a small town um on the personalities that come on this show because on the entertainment value for the show we always talk about how important it is the city that they're in and like some of the best seasons are just like these urban metropolises with people from all different walks of life um most recently dc was like not a good season because people in DC are weird. Like, and so I think where you're from, but then a really good season where people are really weird was like the Portland, Oregon, Seattle area.
Like it was a good season. The people weren't freaks.
It was an okay season. It was a good season.
At the time it wasn't the best season, but now that we've had so much worse, we look back fondly and they weirdly had like a couple couple couples. Chelsea and Kwame.
Yeah. That was Jimmy and Chelsea, no? No, that was North Carolina.
Oh, yeah. Okay.
North Carolina was a good city too. So the city.
Whatever. The city means a lot.
Yeah. And I was actually really looking forward to Minnesota.
I mean, that guy Joey, his accent is fucking crazy. Like, I don't even know what Minnesota people talk like, but he is a walking cliche.

Nobody else really has that terrible of an accent.

He must be like really local.

Yeah.

Or from a specific part of Minnesota.

Because most of them are like living in St. Paul, like downtown.

And I fear it's not giving a good look for people from Minnesota.

And I don't want to, you know, paint with a broad brush, but it's so vanilla vanilla I think it's more the editing and especially and so okay they they trend vanilla and you gave us six episodes of pods whereas other cities are a little more interesting and there was only two so I didn't hear about your dad's steak like I didn't hear about all these really I like Taco Bell your dad's steak Taco B I didn't hear about every fucking tattoo that everyone has oh my god what's with Who cares? So they're operating at a disadvantage because they're not the most interesting and they're filling the most airtime.

So it's a combination. And I don't think you can blame the Midwest.

I think the Midwest has a wonderful elk.

That's fair.

That we just are not being packaged properly.

Where are the crazy people? You know, like you need to sprinkle them in.

And in addition to the serious people who are taking the experiment seriously, you need to have the assholes, the people who are clearly there to get famous, the people who have like really nutty personalities. There's none of that.
Everybody is like so normal to the point of bored to tears. But I will be curious to see if it yields good relationships.
They're all so normal. They can all kind of work with each other.
Are we going to have a lot of marriages? That'll be interesting. As far as continuing to watch, like, of course, last night was like really hard really hard but i do think like the best is yet to come and like you put in the hard work for the payoff six episodes of pods is there might be some fast forwarding that has to happen and also we'll see how people are talking about it like some seasons it's like i mean that chelsea season the megan fox like it was everywhere before i started watching so if it's really gaining steam we can continue to watch and we'll see what happens.
And whoever's idea was to have people in the pods do a date night where they're doing silent discos and we're obviously not listening to what they're listening to because then they put on like their generic music and we're watching them like bop it to like selling Sunset Pop music. Like seriously, stop.
But seriously. The funniest was Monica showing Joey how her dad dances and like she's describing and he's doing something completely different because he can't see her and that made me chuckle oh also Madison like twerking with the golf club I haven't gotten there unfortunately was she doing it with Ben Platt she was doing it no with Mason the cinematographer she's like oh we're both artists um I should two artists be together I feel like no well.
Well, who's going to pay the bills?

You really have to think opposites attract.

Yeah, okay, so she's getting like,

it's obviously a late night date,

and she's kind of like horny,

and she's being really weird and sexually suggestive,

telling him that her nipples are pierced.

And she was like, he's like, I love miniskirts.

And she was like, oh,

then you would have loved my micro mini the other day. And he was like, I was talking to you,

and you were wearing a micro miniskirt why did you tell me and then they're

like also doing putt-putt as their date and so she like holds both hands on the um golf club and

like shakes her ass in a miniskirt towards the wall that divides them and he obviously can't see

it so she's like oh by the way i just twerked and he goes you know how to twerk like as if she like

I'm sorry. and he obviously can't see it.
So she's like, oh, by the way, I just twerked. And he goes, you know how to twerk? Like as if she like tied a cherry.
She just like shook her ass. She didn't even, actually, she didn't twerk.
She just like. By the textbook definition.
Textbook, she actually did not twerk. She just like did like a hip dip.
Understood. It was painful.
I just want to say like, I feel like some people might have pod sex. And they should talk about sex.

They're definitely having pod sex.

To sexual beings.

But because there's not usually

six pod episodes,

we don't see it.

And I do think people

should be able to have pod sex.

Private moments.

And them not film it.

And I feel like

this probably happens a lot

and it's unfortunate

that we're seeing it

because it kind of had to be there.

Yeah.

It's really been so unenjoyable thus far. Sound in the comments sounds amazing we are funny and by the way we literally what each episode is like a little over an hour so i watch like almost two and a half hours about dollars and cents like it's about time spent streaming i'm just letting you know netflix like it's bad business because i'm not going to watch a show however we have to make it to honeymoons because that's when you can decide like we watched G.C.
till honeymoons true and it was still bad but that is the best time and maybe we'll get there slowly yeah maybe half an episode a night I hope Netflix learns from this though yeah because they definitely in the past have made the pods too short where like you really don't understand the people and it's hard to get really invested so it's a perfect it's always dreadful it's always like a little hard because you're like learning all these people's names and I just want to say like I don't mind not understand the people and it's hard to get really invested. So it's a perfect, it's always dreadful.
It's always like a little hard because you're like learning all these

people's names.

And I just want to say like,

I don't mind not understanding the people and not knowing like why they

connected.

I'm just going to trust you.

Okay.

I don't trust the process.

Now give me the juice.

Go to Guatemala.

Where they go to Honduras.

Sorry.

Get your ass to Honduras.

Get on Island time.

Show me the reveals.

Start sleeping in the same bed.

So they've made the reveals a little too long. Like where they now sit and chat.
They put a bench. I stay in chat, but I don't want to stay in chat.
The bench is probably the worst thing to happen to the show because the best part of the reveals is how awkward it is that they have to stand and like be fully in gowns and meet someone new for the first time. The fact that they sit, it lets them get like a little bit more comfortable and I don't like it.
I want them to be weird.

And then it goes on longer.

Like, no, I want you guys to see each other.

Initial thoughts, first impression.

We'll see you on honeymoons.

Agreed.

It's too much.

We need to check in with them back in Honduras.

It's just too much and it's too weird.

Like I clocked.

You know, I saw what they saw.

I've seen what I needed to see.

Move it along.

Correct.

All right. Well, that's our show, you guys.

We kind of crushed it.

Classic us.

Classic us.

Anything else you want to say before we wrap?

I'm actually starting to get worried

how I'm going to get my car out of the spot now.

I'll help you.

Okay, thank you.

It was kind of crazy that you didn't come and help me.

Oh, you couldn't help me.

I literally thought the car was driving itself.

Did you see me?

Every day, you're always like,

I parked today.

I thought you knew how to park.

Who doesn't know how to park?

I don't know how to parallel park.

I'm not going to lie.

I'll see going to lie. What's the point? Everywhere you go has a massive fucking parking lot.
I know how to parallel park. It will take me like 15 minutes, but I can do it.
I was on like minute seven before she got in the car. Unless it's on the left side of the street.
Was it on the left? Like were you, was the parking spot to your left or to your right? To my right. Oh, okay.

That I can do like in 10 minutes.

I can't do it on the left. I actually think getting out

is easier.

I'll back up onto the curb

and then just drive straight.

Yeah.

And just leave your insurance card

wherever you go.

Yeah.

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