
4x4xU Furever: Thursday, February 13th, 2025
- Teddi Mellencamp reveals doctors found 'multiple tumors' on her brand that 'have been growing for at least 6 months' (Page Six) (17:52)
- Naya Rivera's Ex Ryan Dorsey Speaks Out for the First Time About the Glee Star's Tragic Death and Raising Their Son Alone (PEOPLE) (20:09)
- Country star Lainey Wilson reveals engagement to former NFL player Duck Hodges after 4 years of dating (NY Post) (23:31)
- 2025 Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Nominees (Billboard) (28:18)
- Paige DeSorbo claims she 'caught' Craig Conover texting 'two bitches' before split (Page Six)(39:24)
- Summer House Recap (41:00)
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Welcome back to the toast and happy, what is it? Thursday. It's Thursday.
Jackson and I are doing a super early morning recording. It's kind of giving the hustle never sleeps.
It's giving early bird gets the worm. We also are doing an audio only extravaganzas today.
Apologies to the YouTube swirlies, but we will be back tomorrow. Today's a travel day for me.
So hey Jax, how you durn? I'm durn good early morning, so I'm just sort of getting my bearings. I have to ask myself how I'm durn.
I have no idea. Don't you feel like your voice is different on an early morning podcast? Well, yeah, because you're still waking up.
No, no, but, well, yeah, but I mean more like, I feel like I'm kind of whispering. Romeo's like asleep behind me.
Actually, my house is asleep right now, which is crazy. The one time I have to get up early.
You know, not on a Sunday. Not on a sundaries.
We're sleeping in. Jax, I think everyone really tuned in today to find out what the hell you did last night like after all the hype of yesterday's episode like where were you I just want to tell you guys my evening was so amazing so thank you for asking because I went to a women's event at a local shul they had asked me to they were having a guest speaker come um just like uh I'll explain who she is in a moment.
And they asked me to like moderate the conversation as you know, that does fall in my wheelhouse of talents technically. And I am a Jewish woman.
You're a speaker. It was kind of an inspired choice.
I agree. And I would like love to give back to my community and do something like that.
And anytime I go to an event, especially like a religious event, like the manifesting one one like I always get so much out of it so I'm like why not have a meaningful evening why not so um I agreed to do it and the the guest who came her name is Joyce Azria might sound familiar because her dad is BCBG Max Azria so she was the creative director of BCBG and she's also an Orthodox Jewish woman. And so it was just all about her life and her journey through Judaism.
But this woman just had like such a great energy and such a great approach to like spirituality and like being religious. And like you would have really loved her clock because she just like her relation issues just like talking about her relationship with Hashem.
And it's not there. It's not as like, you know, Bible thumping as you would think it would be.
Like it's very energetic, it's very alive. And we just had like a really great conversation and it was a great evening.
It really was. Well, so happy for you expanding your horizon socially, religiously, spiritually without me.
That sounds amazing. Yeah.
I would love to like, you know, bring some back to, I feel like every time you go to a Torah class, like you always come back with like a little nugget a little nugget last night was to be shvat I don't know if you saw dat moon dat moon though I did see dat moon that's like a parji of like Jewish song that we don't we're always like singing our faves that one gets lost yeah because it's the festival's the Festival of the Trees. Like it's obviously not one of the huge ones, but it's- It's giving Arbor Day.
It's underrated. The trees deserve love too.
Um, you know who else deserves love? Who? Me. Why? Because you passed your glucose test? Well, first of all, I thought I would be like waltzing in here being like, hey, look at me.
I either passed or failed. I didn't get the results.
I don't know why I thought it was like the driver's test where like you just find out immediately if you pass or fail. I would have thought it was a few hours.
You don't know right now? No, I still don't know. You would know if I knew.
Okay. And I just want to say I've had it up to here.
With? The social media misinformation when it comes to women's health. Wow, you're taking on a lot this early morning.
Yes, and I'm so sorry to have pivoted directly out of your Parchi evening into my torturous afternoon, but it needed to be said. I've had enough.
Hopefully I can use some of the lessons that I've learned from my Parchi evening to help you through your torturous afternoon. Let's try.
Let's try. I have had it up to here with specifically these bitches, okay? Yesterday I took my glucose test.
And let me tell you, it was like one of the most horrible experiences of my life. It was so long.
And that juice, while, yes, it tasted actually very good. People were so dramatic dramatic about being like I couldn't get it down um it made me feel sick oh my god like 20 minutes later I was I was sugar high I felt disgusting like I really felt not okay but whatever I was like sharing the journey on social media and like the amount of things people were trying to give me anxiety about that aren't real like actually was starting to piss piss me off.
People were like, you'll have to take the test again.
If you drink it through a straw, it doesn't work.
Not true.
Jackie, the lady at the lab gave me the straw.
Like, you think you know more than her?
And first of all, how on God's green diddly-dally earth
would drinking something through a straw make it different?
I don't know.
It wouldn't.
And then immediately I was like, oh shit, did I do something wrong? do something wrong and then i'm like wait wait logic needs to prevail here i literally drank it like who cares if i drink it with my mouth open and my mouth closed like yeah i was okay then and it was making me regret sharing like these bitches were pissing off well that's i think i do think like people that's the lesson start to regret sharing because yeah everyone comes in either thinking they're an expert or wanting to be an expert i want to be like hey well one time for me and it's like okay it's not your time then i was sharing like oh my god not everybody being so dramatic about this juice when it was actually quite tasty it tasted like a full sugar sprite like it really was not bad and then people were being like well you know they say if you would like the taste of the juice you actually probably do have gestational diabetes like bitch shut up okay i just want to say shut up i saw that one and it made me chuckle okay so she was being for real like thank you for the laugh i thought for a second i was like shit like that it does sound that one sounded the straw one sounded stupid like the other one has merit it's like you love this sugar because you're always eating sugar you're a big diabetic i was like i kind of like i like that myth it can stay that myth has merit but then i did look into it it's completely fabricated and made up okay but it can stay still because it's funny all's that it provides value in the humor department yes yes yes all's that to say I still don't know if I passed my glucose test I had a miserable time doing it both offline and online and I might stop sharing my journey with these bitches specifically hmm is there a way for you to share your journey and then tune out these bitches like if you were to share your journey like maybe it's because you're by the way we're getting into Jay Shetty territory right now like are we oh my god Zach was like to me last night he was like do you see that clip of Claudia and Jay Shetty I'm like oh no no no that's not for me and he was like what do you mean I'm like well we're too close i can't watch of course like what do you mean and he's like what do you need to watch a clip i was like he didn't get it like i guess it's kind of like an odd thing to say at a glance we're too close i can't watch her it's literally the least weird thing i just want you to know he was very moved by your words oh he only watched the clip not the whole episode just the clip about that god and you're gonna make sure it ends there it ends with the clip i don't even have to make sure he doesn't even listen to the toast so and unless like cow and cowherd was on your episode with jay shetty by the way good to know that if we ever want zach to listen to an episode of the toast we just have to get colin cowherd on the toast that would actually be like such a good surprise for something yeah and we might have a better chance if you didn't literally say the meanest shit about Colin Cowherd yesterday I think you called him like I'll reign it in what'd you call him I will reign it in I will do better yeah just for that if I ever have a surprise we have to start kissing Cowherd ass like if I need to get a Colin Cowherd cameo do you think he's on cameo no he probably makes a lot of money from espn he doesn't need to do that that's never stopped people it's a certain type of animal on cameo it's so true because it's important to remember that bethany frankel is or was on cameo like while she was a rich woman you know yeah so it takes all kinds it's a different beast over there it takes all of us we have a great show actually did you watch summer house of course i did oh my gosh summer house premiere summer i also watched watch what happens live i'm so i'm so excited about this season it looks so good i really enjoyed my time watching it last night after my meaningful evening with hashem yeah that's kind of probably what Hashem would have wanted don't you think yeah no but he definitely would have because I was like in bed with my warm blanket cozy cozy feeling fulfilled I'm I have a hard time watching summer house but also recapping it without letting my personal biases get in the way of like a good recap because I seriously like I cannot watch that yellow-haired on my TV I hate him so much 42 year old in a house with a 24 year old like it it actually is hindering me from doing my job but the hate that I have well at least for last night's episode he's not really a part of it like yeah like I wouldn't honestly I probably wouldn't have mentioned him in my recap like not even as as a boycott. But I'm like hyper focused, like everything he does.
I have triggers. So my recap would have included a lot of him, even though he contributed zero to the episode.
Got it. Oh, that's so funny.
I literally forgot about him. I thought you were going to say like Carl or Wes.
Hate, hate. Yeah, but I don't know those people.
Like I have personal beef. No Right, no, no.
I'll just say, just because I forgot about him.
Yeah, he's, if it weren't for my personal beef, he's so forgettable.
But, like, seriously, I'll never forget you setting up your DJ equipment.
You're 42.
Yeah.
Well, I'm really excited to recap that.
And I don't want to, like, rush through the rest of the show to do that.
But that's kind of what I feel like doing.
So down.
Because, also, that's kind of, like, the big thing that happened. happened.
It wasn't like a crazy news making 24 hours. Yeah.
You know. I hate when that happens.
I feel like everyone was just kind of on a spiritual journey. That's how it felt.
Or taking a glucose test. Yeah.
Well, actually, while you were on your spiritual journey, I was recovering from my glucose test. Like it took me all day.
I wasn't okay. Yeah, it'll knock your socks off.
And that just is like a little taste of a sugar high. So next time you're consuming loads of sugar, just remember that's where you're headed.
Okay, RFK. I want to say one thing about RFK, okay? Okay.
You know his whole movement is make America healthy again. Meh.
Meh. Okay, thank you.
That's what I wanted to say what i wanted to say i haven't seen and every time i see it on social media people referencing it like positively or negatively all i can think of is amanda vines i actually have seen someone say like oh good good the man hair movement like i was gonna make like an instagram story about it but it's also like a controversial movement so i got like involved you know i wasn't in the mood for backlash but i just wanted to i just wanted to make sure i wasn't the only one who saw it and immediately thought of amanda vines rift um what a rift yes yeah it sounded like you were back to tell me something about um your religious event last night like a girl named rifka that's what i thought you were saying. No, Rifk-Jer.
Rifk-Jer, yeah. Yeah.
rift during the mirror hand movement we should rage meet people today well actually if you want to go deep i wonder if you've seen this in the glucose discourse that like the real crunchy ones like the bring their own they won't drink that drink or they'll I mean some people skip the test altogether but some people like drink their own sugary concoction because what you drink is like literal toxic waste I mean and I drink it too so I didn't know that that was a thing but Shannon texted me she was like good luck at your glucose test like she's like are you and Jack's like so crunchy that you bring your own juice and I'm like wait I hadn't even heard of it I'm like that's another level of crunchiness that I haven't even heard of Jackie has never brought that up to me I did not know that I while I didn't enjoy the test I'm gonna trust the test and I have no regerts even though I'm definitely like I feel like I drank toxic waste like that's how heavy and thick it was yeah it's kind of crazy it's like drink this disgusting toxic liquid then we'll let you know if something's wrong with you I'm like well there is now no and sometimes like you could drink it and it's inconclusive that to me would be the worst result yeah if if I have to do the longer test yeah and I wonder what I've seen like what people bring but it's kind of hard to match the level of craziness that's demanded of the gt yeah when you make your own like seriously like you make it in the kitchen i don't or you bring like a a sugary drink i don't know um oh like a powerade yeah but the man wouldn't drink powerade so... Of course, of course.
Something else sugary. Rifquerade.
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I'm blessed to be surrounded by my children, family, friends, doctors, nurses, and surgeons who are doing everything possible to get me back into better health. I mean, this woman literally can't catch a break.
I feel like every time I open my Instagram, she's sharing something new happening in her skin cancer journey. She's always posting these pictures of like these crazy scars on her back that she had to have different moles removed.
Like they went under the surface and just like found different things called melanoma. Um, and so I just thought like that was her journey, you know? Um, and then to see this on Instagram, was really shook like seriously pray for this woman yeah um same i was watching watch what happens live last night that's where i actually heard about it because andy was um giving her the muscle of the day and i think she went into surgery last night so i hope today she's recovering i hope they got what they needed to get in that like they're able to attack this but that is so scary and that is of course and who gets two different types of cancer like that's seriously so nuts yeah and i feel like um she's also been doing a lot in the last six months but i feel like i've seen her a lot she's on skinning confidential she's like always making news two teas in a pod so it's like doing that with brain tumors wow yeah yeah so i feel like she's also very like into into health right right It's not like someone who's just like let it slip by and like doesn't pay attention to always doing the most health-wise yeah like a healthy person active like right that those things but those should add up to like um a healthy life yeah no it's really so sad and she's like like such young kids.
Like, seriously. What a crazy fucking story.
Yeah, a crazy story. Just really incredibly sad.
And we're thinking of her. We'll wait more news.
Correct. Are you ready for our next story? Which is also a bit of crazy news because Naya Rivera's ex, Ryan Dorsey, is speaking out for the first time.
That's such sad stories today. I know.
Just these two, and then we'll move to a better place, but the two big ones. This story, like, always gives me the biggest pit in my stomach.
Yeah. So the actor, Ryan Dorsey, sat down with People Magazine to talk about Naya and his son almost five years since her death.
So he's talking about how it's been um how he's working at warner brothers and forest lawn cemetery where she's buried is on the other side talking about songs that remind him of her and just raising their son and on the trauma that he's been through you know when at four years old he was on the boat when his mom drowned um and just not doing his best right and like sharing different details from that day yeah because even though like the whole thing happened very publicly and we were all sort of on the journey as it was actively happening and they were looking for her we still don't really know like 100% what went down on the boat yes but it's also really hard to know when it was just the two of them and he's so young and that's like the only witness and like why exactly what made her drown and ryan dorsey was saying like it must have been some like freak sort of um whirlpool yeah but they say that about that lake in particular like it's known so it's not like it's actually not that ordinary, but it happened to have been like a really bad day. Right, but you don't know that for sure because like the only person who was there to see it would probably know what a whirlpool is.
He's four years old. Right, but a detail he did share that I think people hadn't previously known was that there was like an attempt to help.
I mean, he was four, but I think he threw her a rope. Yeah, or there was a rope on the boat.
He didn didn't throw it and I think he said that there was a spider on it and I think it's just like something that haunts him but he was saying the rope probably wouldn't have reached and yeah yeah it's just really it's a sad story every time it comes up it's so sad I can't believe it like she's gone and in that way in that way and it was like so cryptic when it happened yeah like because remind me the boat just sort of turned up with him on it alone right yeah him napping on it yeah like three hours after they chartered it him napping on it that's so sad I'm gonna cry um and so the way it all unfolded was just like so scary um and I can only imagine what sort of like trauma that does to a child yeah and I'm sure like pieces come back but like oh it's so sad yeah really really sad so and I feel like the dad and him are like super close like I really I wish them the best like I don't want to think about them like I just want them to like go be happy and like have an amazing life yeah yeah the boat also like didn't the boat didn't have an anchor so it was drifting away when she and her son were swimming that's why honestly these details are making me really sad no but and so they sued over that they and so i don't know how much money if they want any money but like right as well oh that's even sadder oh my god like they're drifting away i can't oh well now are you ready for our next story a little love news a little love our girl our my favorite person laney wilson is engaged what yeah country star laney wilson reveals her engagement to former nfl NFL player Duck Hodges after four years of dating.
So I knew she had a man.
Lainey and Duck.
Yeah, no, no.
I knew she had a man because she was like alluding to it for a really long time on social media
and like never shared who it was.
And then a little while ago, she just was like, fuck it.
And people like found his identity and she didn't care.
Now she shows him on social media and stuff.
He's super cute, super country.
I mean, his name is Duck. I didn't realize she was engaged that's so sweet he's really cute and he's a former NFL quarterback so that that I didn't know I thought he was just like a guy with a job no so that's like good you know knows life in the spotlight has you know has worked well under pressure works well with others correct team player that's really cute and they like literally have the biggest farm and like that's all they do they're like real country folk yeah she posted a picture on a parchy porch saying look this up four by four by you forever oh wait say it again the caption is four by four by you forever oh really cute whose house is that very stately manner i like that they don't make houses like that anymore you know when you call a builder i don't think they even know how to do this what like design is that like brick is a brick house her ring is really pretty i really like her i'm so glad you're like turning a corner on her but you just reminded me i saw the two most random fucking celebrities together this morning like in a video did you see this about kylie no so i'll explain like the circumstances that brought these two together afterwards but just know like last night kylie was hanging out with ella langley i love that i it.
For those who don't know is like a real up-and-coming country artist. Excuse me.
Yeah the viral TikTok song that's her like big breakout hit. You look like you love me.
They have such matching energies I just want to say. They have such matching auras plus 10,000 right? So the reason they were together it makes a little bit more sense but at first I saw them hug and I was like excuse me Kylie hosted an event for Sprinter like kind of um like a pop-up where they were just like handing out drinks and there was a stage and they had Ella Langley perform oh my god that's so funny that she's like a small business owner and has to like work with local town slum it yeah wait but I just i love that i hope that there was enough time for them to strike up a friendship and real recognize real yeah it's like ella langley is kylie if she grew up in the south one thousand percent one thousand percent yeah they actually do look alike yeah and they have just like similar swag definitely i could see kylie excuse me do you think kylie like knows that song and when they were just running different people by kylie like oh within budget we could get this person to perform this person kind of was like oh yeah i like that song or do you think she has no idea i'm just like she definitely knows the song because she's on the internet yeah it's crazy to think about.
Yeah, that's really cute.
What was the story?
Lainey Wilson.
Four by four by you forever.
Do it again.
It's kind of addicting.
Four by four by you forever.
I like the way you say forever like that.
I think you need to start saying it like that more forever after today's episode i don't know if i'll be able to go back go back the way i used to that works for me forever so mazel tov laney mazel tov laney i'm really happy for her she's so Like everything's coming up Laney. By the way, her name would be Laney Hodges.
Oh my God. She's related to Orson? And isn't that the girl from She's All That? Oh, my God.
Wait. Yes.
Lainey Hodges. But now I can't keep finding.
It's just her and her man forever. Okay, so She's All That.
What's that girl's name rachel lee cook yeah she's all that imdb rachel lee cook her name is laney boggs laney boggs you're close 100 um i immediately went to orson hodge that's going to be her father-in-. 1,000%.
1,000%. Very exciting time for the Wilson Hodge family.
Big time. And it's going to be a good time for them forever.
It better be forever. Like, at this point, if they don't last, then it wasn't forever.
It was forever. Are you ready for our next story i am some rock and roll news it's still rock and roll to me yeah the 2025 rock and roll hall of fame nominees are here yeah i saw this list i feel like we talk about it every year and it like every year doesn't make sense to me I feel like we never talk about it but like I saw it yesterday I was like nah I can do without today I was like I need you you're in you're in it's giving six men second string yeah but but I think that we do talk about it every year because when they have the actual induction ceremony they always have like a big performer that's true that's the story and then we're like wait who got inducted that year and we read the list and we don't know any of the people so here are the nominees which is weird like not all of them i didn't realize it was a competition at this stage in the game bill Billy Idol, which feels like right.
It's, wait, Billy Idol.
Oh, okay, I was getting confused.
That's not Billy Joel Armstrong.
No.
It's not Billy Joel.
No, who is it?
Yeah, I actually think we don't know who this is.
Like.
No, I do.
No, no, I'm telling you, you don't. His photo looks like not oh dancing with myself we know that song how does that go dancing with myself oh he deserves it just for that agreed but his other top songs eyes without a face rebel yell I'm not familiar with I'm sure some of our you know boomer toasters which I'm dying to get in with the boomers like I feel like in this day and age everybody's like wants to be gen z or millennial and it's like we're definitely millennial we're not gen z and I think a lot of people in our position would try to be like you know targeting the next gen right like gen z start talking I want more boomers okay I'm just putting it out there like when I go to our next set of live shows I want everybody in the audience to be geriatric like I feel like that's not boomer no no I'm just being like I'm being dramatic like making a joke about the boomers like they get it oh yeah okay uh I don't know that's not like the way to court them but okay no but I just feel like the boomers like are are happy people because like they all own homes and they're like at the almost the age of retirement and they just like I don't know they don't have the problems that like all these other chronically online folks have like i just want an audience majorly comprised of boomer boomer women so tell your parents to listen to the toast yeah and we could start targeting our content to be like a little bit like skewed a little bit older more stories like this of like the rock and roll hall of fame so our Boomer contingency, which I do feel is growing.
I'm telling you, I can feel it.
Come get your man.
I'm sorry to this man.
I have no idea who Billy Idol is.
Okay, so maybe he won't win.
Billboard has his odds as 10 to 1 on getting in.
That doesn't sound good. Those are good odds, right?
Oh, I don't know.
I think they are.
Well, okay.
It's like 100 to 1, but.
Next, we have Joy Division slash New Order. My favorite.
Like, those are four words I've never said. Yeah.
Next to each other. Aligned.
Then there's Bad Company, which, of course, has the classic rock staples. Feel like making love.
Can't get star front man is paul rogers oh oh paul rogers their odds are eight i've loved paul rogers forever their odds are eight to one as our joy division new orders odds oh okay cool then soundgarden which of course of course Soundgarden has the radio staples, the critical peer respect, the commercial profile, and the relatively enduring importance. I don't know if I would say they have the relatively enduring importance.
Oh, well, I don't think what they, I think they don't have a compelling answer to the question, why now? Right, right, right. That's what it sounds like.
like of course the band has been dormant since the death of the front man chris cornell right oh by the way i happen to know who chris cornell is yes so let him in odd six to one oh next chubby checker no other artist on this ballad has their legacy as tied to one song as chubby checker though no other legacy let me ask you another question if you look down this list because i'm having fun i am is there anyone whose names you recognize yes you want me to get to them please just yeah cindy lopper queen let her in what are her odds 10,000 to one you're kidding yes i think we're getting closer oh wait wait three to one is bad or good three to one is good i think better than 10 to one 100 oh wait okay i think this this is like descending or anybody who wrote the song girls just want to have fun um deserves the world and I actually the other day remember when I was telling you I was listening to a lot of old Miley Cyrus I forget that like most people our age really know all the lyrics to that song because Miley Cyrus's cover of it which she really put a lot of respect on it was super well done we don't talk about that enough that was really a brilliant move, she was doing covers from a young age. She was always destined for covers.
Backyard baseball, whatever it's called.
Oh, of course, Backyard Sessions, Jolene.
But like so much of her career is about covers and like new takes on.
Yeah, like even though she puts out original music,
she does a lot of performances where she's a go-to cover.
They should tap her more for like the Grammys and stuff to like do tributes.
Tributes also.
Because she really like becomes the person.
It's given... performances where she's like she's a go-to cover they should tap her more for like the grammys and stuff to like do tributes tributes because she really like it becomes the person it's giving kelly okey we need to see kelly and miley do a miley okey we do and then next one on the list that you do know mariah carey oh see this is where they lose me like mariah carey is like a hip-hop artist right yeah um this is a rock and roll hall of fame like that's just where i get confused but let her in yeah then fish i mean how are they not in there how are they not that's the other thing i feel like the rock and roll hall of fame like they really want to make sure people deserve it so much so to the point that like they're kind of always dropping the ball yeah and then outcast love hey yeah yeah why not sure let him in hey yeah the white stripes um i'm unfamiliar but i know the name that feels like right you know the white stripes like that's exactly who should be in the rock and roll hall of Fame.
And then Oasis, which Billboard says is like the only true shoe-in for this class.
Like that's the best odds, one to two.
To me, like just based on how I perceive the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame,
which is definitely like incorrectly,
the only person on that list who's truly eligible is Cyndi Lauper.
I think more. What about everybody loves fish i don't know if i would say that they're rock and roll i feel like it's more like
vibes yeah yeah it is vibes but um well here's wonderwall anyway here's wonderwall forever
and after all, you're my Wonderwall. By the way, now that you're recovered from your flu, you have to make your...
I know. I was thinking that.
I'm like... Appointment in the studio to lay down tracks for Toast Theme Song because my version's ready to go.
Yeah. I know.
that when I woke up this morning kind of woke me up yeah oh it shook you out of a dreamless sleep it was a little stressful now you have to do it are you ready for a fifth and final story that will lead into our tv recap if it's the fifth and final story that's gonna lead into the tv recap that's brought to you by skims pretence pretence it is so skims bras and underwear are the best intimates that I've truly ever owned. My top drawer is slowly becoming all Skims.
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And he got a ring. Right, and he got a ring.
And her big bombshell that we saw in the last- Thank God, I usually turn off the previews. Like, whatever, I'll see you next week.
The last three seconds of the preview, she's talking about how she's upset, which we've been talking about all week, that he's, like, not defending her publicly amidst these cheating rumors,. When at the end of the day, like she never cheated.
He was the one who got caught texting two bitches twice during their relationship. Like, excuse me? She said she caught Craig texting two bitches over the course of their relationship.
She said some snippets included, Craig, what are you talking about? I feel like you're so betraying me right now. She also said, you are dead to me.
I feel sick. I feel really sick.
Yeah. And then also on Watch What Happens Live last night, like Sierra and Lindsay were talking about it.
Andy asked them, like, how surprised were you that Paige and Craig both grew up? One to ten, ten being most surprised. And Sierra was like, one.
Wow. Yeah, but she was like, that's my best friend.
Like, you know what's going on. You know when someone's like close to a breakup.
But it sounds like she knew more than maybe Craig. I saw clips of Sierra on Watch What Happens Live.
And then I also watched her in the premiere. And it's like, actually, she's so striking.
I don't know of a person I've watched on reality TV who's maybe as beautiful as she is. Like, it's actually upsetting.
Yeah, she's so beautiful. This new girl is so beautiful.
Oh yeah, Lexi. Lexi.
It's so crazy to like see someone come off of Instagram. Like I've seen her Instagram because I knew she was joining the cast.
And on Instagram she like seriously looks like a perfect individual. And then like to see her in 3D on a show.
Like and she's just so adorable and perfect looking. Like it's really a pleasure.
And it was such a fun episode with her. Yeah.
And I remember hearing that she was going to be joining the cast. And I remember hearing something about her.
Was she like a Nepo baby? What was it? She like dated someone famous. Brooklyn Beckham.
Yeah. In 2018.
Damn that's crazy. But she has a very different personality than what I would have expected.
I would have expected her to be like a little more like aloof, like cool girl.'s like very bubbly very outgoing like very fun she's perfect for the show however I feel like with the intro of her and her friend Bailey who I feel like is an undiscovered talent I think she's just taking a little bit more time to like come to the service of course it's always that way I do feel like we're really starting to see like the two different shows you know like because they actually last year we were always we've been complaining for the last few years like there's no good like single young guys and they got Wes and Jesse and they're both good and there's a new guy coming and so I feel like this younger single group is starting to like carve out a place for themselves and like they leave and the other half of the group stays home which is like fine but it doesn't feel Yeah, it has. It doesn't like bother me yet.
Maybe that will become like very clear over the season. But what I thought was so great, it's like this is like what shows used to be like where it was like a couple singles and a couple guys and girls and like people would immediately click.
Like it's giving not in a bad way, like Ron and Sam, where you just like see someone in your house. You're like, that's my person.
I like how you look. I like how you talk.
Like like watching her and Jessie immediately hit it off like I had a smile on my face the entire time we haven't seen that like on TV in a very long time of I guess also West and Sierra sort of had that and that was just Sam and Corey remember them I loved Sam and Corey I know they broke up so like whatever but they should have come back like no that was always the weirdest thing that they weren't in the next season because she was great by the way uh-huh
and he was like super cute what's not to like like frat boy energy perfect for that show yeah
no it's really always so fun to watch it's like what the all the good shows started out like so
to have a little bit of that last night and like jesse solomon seems like such a great guy like a
great catch everyone wants love for him and then like i'm sorry he's so funny too being like i love her no he's so funny and like he's serious i mean we'll see it looks like the rest of the season and i do feel like his fatal flaw is that he's a really big flirt and like doesn't take things seriously um but that he's like 10 toes deep for this girl Like it it's just, it's really sweet. It's young love and he deserves it.
And it also seems a little bit like there's going to be beef between Lexi and Sierra because I think that Lexi's coming and like kind of filling a role that Sierra filled when she first got there. Like, you know, the eligible single gal in the house, like all the other single guys are into.
Yeah. No, but I also could see even last night, like Jesse flirts with Sierra a lot.
He's very touchy with her. They have like a page a lot too.
Yeah, he flirts. He's a flirt, but I noticed it the most with Sierra.
And I think if she and Jesse start hooking up and it's like, we're not hooking up with other people. We'll just focus on this right now.
But he still feels like it's okay to flirt with Sierra. That would bother a girl.
girl I agree because there's like being personable and like the funny jolly guy and then there's just inappropriate no and then there's just like when you're taking steps forward in a relationship like you change the way you behave to the rest of the world that's and if you're not ready to do that like you're not mature you know what I always think when I watch the first episode of summer house is like how impressive it really is the way they're able to divvy up the rooms now I guess because they're only staying like two nights at a time and they all go back to their apartments it's like not the biggest deal but when you think about like rooms on Bravo shows it's like historically been this like crazy saga they're all extremely mature about it um except in the beginning I remember like it was like every season Amanda and Kyle got the master and it's like well why yeah especially when two people are also willing to share Sierra and Paige yeah um but I also feel like the house is growing like there's always more rooms there's always more people they keep putting walls up and just making rooms and throwing beds in rooms yeah so there really doesn't seem like a really bad room and when there are bad rooms like you just give those to the boys there aren't bad rooms there are just rooms without bathrooms of their own right those I think are considered the bad rooms and those should go to the boys like the girls need on sweet now let me tell you how much I love Lindsay Hubbard like it's actually crazy she's so interesting to me um but that also adds another layer it's like it's really crazy that she's in a house with a 24 year old do you know what I mean she's birthing new life Kyle's 42 so many of her friends Paige isn't a committed three-year relationship and then these 24 year olds are like out till three in the morning like it's just sometimes it can I feel like it'll feel like we're watching two different shows which not necessarily is a bad thing yeah no but you do well we will get into an inflection point I don't feel like I'm there yet it's probably where we headed though, where you do have to like shake up the cast a little bit.
Vanderpump Rules, junior and senior,
like where do we go from here? Yeah, but the one thing this has on Vanderpump Rules
is that Vanderpump Rules never got a group of young people.
We were even remotely interested.
Right.
Every person they cast,
blop after flop after flop.
Meanwhile, between Jessie, Wes,
I would consider Sierra like a bridge,
kind of like a Sheena.
Well, yeah, Sierra was saying how much of what happens in life.
She's only two years older than Lexi
and one year older than Bailey. She's 28, Lexi's 26 and Bailey's 27.
I guess she's just so mature. She was like, yeah, but I feel so much older.
Like, she just doesn't have that. Like, she could play on both casts.
She really could. Yeah.
This is also our first episode slash season without Danielle, which was nice. I didn't really notice.
Yeah. Okay, and so Lindsay's showing up.
Like, I'm sorry. I love her so much, her speech.
I know they were trying to make it seem like long-winded. Like they do that editing thing where they just blend the words.
But I followed exactly what she was saying. And because I knew where it was going, like it made total sense.
She was like, eight years ago this, seven years ago this, six years ago. And this year I'm pregnant.
Like I actually thought it was really nice. And I loved it.
And I loved how happy everyone was for it but the whole like room being like I knew it that is such an annoying thing to say yeah especially because there were a lot of rumors like even you had said to me on this show like I think I've heard a rumor Lindsay's pregnant and I was like oh well I hope that's true and so obviously if we heard that then her castmates heard that and it's like just shut up okay like let the woman have a moment no I shouldn't have said that either by the way like that was wrong of me no in that moment like I was I needed to hear it because I was worried about her oh and this idea I just need to say this idea that Lindsay has moved on too quickly from Kyle anyone who is even remotely from Carl oh this just get ready for that from Carl and some people are like floating that idea like well she's pregnant four and a half months and they kyle was saying that so they dated for like one month the day that carl broke up with lindsey i wouldn't care if she got together with the next person the next day he is in the past when you're a woman of a certain age and you want to have children there is no time to waste there's no grace period of we need to get over it we need need closure. I need to heal.
I need to be by myself.
Like, no, I need to find my future now.
And day one starts now.
Anyone who remotely goes with that, I don't know if that will become a storyline or it's just people like being shady.
Like, it's really ridiculous and just like goes to show an immaturity because there is no time to waste around here.
And Lindsay did not waste time.
And Carl wasted her time. So now we got to get time back.
back no and it was pissing me off like hearing people say that um but i thought it was just like my blind loyalty to lindsey but you're 100 right it's also like it's disrespectful yeah no i even however she wants to get rid like get over carl do it in the next like she's got a key moving forward there's no time to waste and mope and find yourself and eat pray love like like carl's doing and i need to say i absolutely love that she told the group without carl ran upstairs did her sponsored post told the world carl found out with the world and then had to waltz into the house the next day like it was such a sleigh of a timeline i loved it so much and him like coming in i'm sorry i can't stand this man like him coming in and like walking out of the house like needing to talk to producers like doing therapy talk like I just don't know how to be in a situation like this like no and the producers like that's really normal man lead with your heart bro like seriously grow up we're like you broke up with this woman almost a year ago like you know exactly it's embarrassing honestly this is also a crazy thing to say and i'm just gonna say it you know what i'm actually not sorry continue well what i was gonna say is like he started to be like i can't believe she's moved on you know i'm still processing like that's a luxury that you have being a man and And to be honest, you are still processing a relationship.
You ended almost a full year later.
That's weird.
No, it's just like nobody feels bad for you, bro.
And if you do feel bad for him, you've gotten got like we don't care how much time you want.
The two of you are on completely different journeys now.
Apples and oranges.
I don't care what she's doing versus what you're doing or what you're doing versus what she's doing.
Like just because she's moved on that and you didn't doesn't make you oh so sad girl didn't have a kiss yet no and his yeah his oh right he's um confessionals where he's just like being like a therapist like it's genuinely insufferable yeah and i loved how she how she laid the whole timeline out like that was true queenie like behavior and when she showed everyone her belly and she was wearing the tennis jeans of all time and she had marks on her stomach from the jeans I wanted to rip those jeans off of her what are you doing right why couldn't she wear leggings and then be like boom I guess she really didn't want people I think she wanted to get them surprised as much as she could like she was drinking fake alcohol because everyone kind of knew but then like West sees her drinking and it's like oh oh, never mind. Never mind.
And I saw something so funny today about Gabby.
They were like, I love Gabby.
She gives executive assistant energy.
Like true professional.
And like I'm looking forward.
It was a tweet.
I'm looking forward to like seeing her shine outside of like being Lindsay's executive assistant.
But she is thriving in this role.
Yeah.
I completely agree.
I love Gabby.
She's a really good friend.
Yeah.
She really is.
And I do look forward to seeing her shine. But she's been wonderful in this role.
Yeah. Wes is like, I do believe he'll bounce back.
He'll be completely fine. But like this is the first time he's really seeing everyone since the reunion.
And like it's hard not to remember him as that loser on the couch at the reunion. Not like the cool guy he once was.
So I'm just having a hard time like shaking that image yeah weenie west watch parties weenie west exactly like he he does just carry this he we have a chip on our shoulder he has a weenie yeah no it's a very much of a weenie energy um what can you do it's just good to see the gang back together it's nice to have a new show to add to the rotation we'll be adding it to our thursday recap so the scheduling for the next couple of weeks goes as such mondays general catch-up tuesday dear toasters wednesday beverly hills thursday summer house friday queenie and we need we are so and oh excuse me it's not in charm of course how could i forget it's on the charm um so we just a really busy couple of weeks, you know? Tomorrow's episode, Jackie and I are both recording in Miami. Yeah, we rented, like, a fancy studio.
Honestly, if the episode ends up getting published, I'll be shocked. Just, like, new studios are so scary.
Why? We're being so legit. No, new studios are so scary.
No, but they have their act together. Like, you just go in, they hit record.
We're just going to be, like, true, like,. We're just like talent.
Like, should we get our hair and makeup done? Literally. Right? We're just like walking in like, hey, how y'all doing? Look at me.
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