E981 - Bach in Paradise w/ Andrew, RHOC w/ the Sklar Brothers, RHOM, Dorit’s Hermes Bags & Claire’s Closing

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What's going on, everybody?

Welcome back to another exciting episode of the Vile Files.

I'm your host, Nick, joined by my wife, Natalie.

And boy, do we have a great episode, great week lined up for you?

So it's so great.

The coming in hot this episode, we got Jason and and Randy Sklar, the Sklar brothers.

You probably, you've seen them around.

They've been everywhere.

They were in Entourage.

They were in Better Call Saul.

They're everywhere.

You've seen them.

You know them.

You love them.

Turns out they're also big Real Housewives of OC fans.

And they're coming in to break some Bravo housewives down with us.

Get ready to laugh.

A couple of funny guys.

A couple of funny guys.

We're excited to have them, honestly.

They're iconic, and it's always fun.

I always like the ironic Bravo fans, the ones you least expect.

It's always fun.

Following that, Andrew Spencer, Bachelor Nation star.

Star.

He is a star.

He is here, is joining us.

He texted me yesterday.

He has some shit to talk.

He wants to talk shit.

I love when people talk about it.

Apparently, he didn't like the episode.

He has a lot to get off his chest.

We'll see if he delivers.

Not a good look for him or anyone else.

Honestly, that was the craziest response I've ever seen.

That was a weird response for everyone.

Do we think it was the edit?

Everyone was so worried about people talking shit about themselves.

They were like, hey, just don't.

An

be afraid of that.

They were like, mind your fucking business.

Mind your fucking business because if you're a narc, you're out.

The way that Alex is able to convince herself that what she did was like the right thing to do, not telling her friend.

We'll get into it.

We will get into it.

We also, just so you know, have a jam-packed week.

Tomorrow, it's not necessarily a going deeper.

It's another reality recap.

We have a jam-packed lineup.

Lisa Hochstein from Real Housewives of Miami joins us for a nice little sit-down.

It's a meaty interview talking about everything that's that's going on with Real Housewives of Miami.

Most importantly, her very public and little messy divorce.

We will get into the weeds with her about that.

Lots to talk about with Lisa.

Also, we have Freddy, fan favorite Freddy from Perfect Match, who he just posted a little picture on his Instagram, and everyone could tell that there was a shadow of a woman taking said photo.

So I'll have to ask him who he's hanging out with.

Maybe.

I don't know if we're allowed.

We'll see.

He doesn't have to answer.

Yeah, he is posting shit.

I don't know.

Brian will also join us this week to find out what his favorite color is.

Finally, we'll get answers.

The internet has been dying to find out.

Real Housewives of Beverly Hills seems to be, I'm excited already for this filming.

We've seen Denise Richards out there filming, obviously very sad about her divorce, very messy life.

But when it comes to Real Housewives, we just want to thank Bravo for at least giving her an opportunity to film.

And she seems to be taking advantage of that opportunity.

When I hear this conversation, when I hear this divorce run back, I want to hear it with Sutton and Erica sitting there.

Like I want their commentary as well.

I need it.

There have been pictures of Dorit floating around on the internet shopping.

Now, this picture is creating a lot of buzz because you see Dorit with two, is it Hermes?

Hermes.

Hermes.

Hermes Becks.

She seems to be shopping in Beverly Hills.

She seems to also be surrounded by production.

So she's doing a scene scene or maybe like an intro package of some kind.

A lot of speculation on the internet about the bags itself.

They seem, there's some crinkles.

Wrinkles.

Crinkle wrinkles.

Crinkle wrinkles in the bag.

And people are speculating that these are the...

The Hermes bags are a little bent up.

They're a little reused.

God forbid a woman is environmentally conscious.

Literally is.

That's all I have to say.

It's like you go to the grocery store and the...

The cashier, the baggers like scold you when they're like, do you have your own bags?

You're like, no, I don't.

They're like, really?

Dirty comes in to Hermes and she's like don't worry I have my own I have my own she's a repeat customer if anything she's more rich she's a great rebrand yeah actually great rebrand she helps the economy she recycles she does Greta Thunberg one of the toughest one of the toughest jobs out there is to be an environmentally conscious housewife that is to pretend to be rich it's so hard

do you think she has to pretend yeah does she still have the house think about it let's do some basic math here like right like all right so let's assume.

Well, PK is not even in the picture.

They're getting divorced.

Let's, I don't even, I doubt she is, but let's say Dorit's making a million dollars a year from being a housewife.

Let's assume.

All right.

Off the bat, cut that in half, half a million dollars, take 10% from that.

You're at $400,000.

Well, maybe you could take the 10% off, you know, when I was.

I don't want to be involved in that.

She's standing on the standing house.

She's operating with like $400 to $450K.

Divide that by $12,000,500 per month in disposable income.

How much of a Hermes scarf or bag?

Hermes.

Starting at like $10,000 to $20,000 for like a then she's doing glam.

Oh, Kelly Glam.

Every time she's doing glam, that's what?

She's dropping $3,000 or $4,000.

That shit goes fast, people.

I mean,

if you make a million dollars a year, you're only rich if you still drive a Toyota.

You know what I'm saying?

Like, you can't up your spending.

I think she has like a G-Wagon, doesn't she?

And a mansion.

Yes, exactly.

Smoking her cigs in that G-Wagon.

Down Laurel Canyon.

Her mortgage 20K.

and those cigarettes aren't cheap anymore with all the taxes not cheap yeah

pk's got to be responsible for something though right it's it's it's he provides just the cigarette money

yeah it's the least he can do do we think they're fake bags do we care listen if she's filming just like an intro bit and they're like hey like we just need you like with some bags then she's like okay sure i've got a couple but we know she's gonna but if she's filming a scene and it's like let's go into airmes and then act like we bought a bunch of stuff and like come out walking with all of our bags I think it's awesome don't all celebrities do this anyways like the Kardashians do giveaways all the time and it's just empty bags like people know that I don't know it makes me think of the Kardashians are rich rich yeah but stages bags are not like we know the bags are just staged you know it makes me think of that have you guys seen um the Girly Pop Oceans 8 movie?

No.

Well, it's the perfect thing to watch on a plane because it's not good, but it's also amazing.

No, but it's like, when I say movie's not good, it's one of the best movies ever.

Okay, plan vacation.

Thank you.

It's not winning any Oscars, but like I will turn it on anytime I can't.

And I will.

It's a phoned-down movie.

It's a phoned-down movie.

To see Sandra Bullock come in with those bags and do that scheme to this day, I'm convinced I could do it.

I mean,

she does have every brand under the sun on in this photo, though.

What brand?

We've got Celine's sunglasses.

We've got Chanel Jewelry.

We've got Hermes bags.

We've got...

So what is she potentially holding?

How much.

I don't know.

I said, I don't think Dariet gets dressed for less than $10,000 a day.

But that's what I'm saying.

No, she

doesn't have that kind of money.

But she did.

I don't know.

I mean, closed last.

And PK still

managing boy George.

He's still wearing the lore track suit.

So he is saving for her to spend.

Do you know how often people listen to the song Karma Chameleon?

That's got to be at least like 10 bucks a month.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, he's making some good ads in the future.

You know, commercials, like Wagovi commercials.

I bet Karma chameleon's in there.

You know, so true.

He's getting some ad sense.

Rivers' new favorite word, or my favorite word that River says, because one of the first words she learned was no, but it was nah.

Yeah, she could get some words.

That's cute.

It was cute.

It was like, oh, okay, do you want to do this?

Nah.

Now it's no.

And it's the cutest.

It's the best.

No,

no.

She does.

And yes, straight out of nowhere, she just went, no, dad, dad.

Like, stuck her finger out and was like, no, dad, dad.

And I was like, oh my God, say it over and over and over again.

That's awesome.

Don't stop.

It's really the best.

I mean, Rivers' childhood isn't going to be as great as everyone else's because Claire's has filed for bankruptcy and she's not going to get the mall experience that we all got.

Claire, not a person, the jewelry company.

Yeah, we all know.

I will say the first time I did hear this read it out loud, though, I did think it was Claire from like The Bachelor.

At first, I was like, declared bankruptcy.

What was she doing?

Why are you shitting on Claire?

that was just the first Claire that popped into my head because I was watching Bachelor in Paradise you know it's um devastating no it's there's an apostrophe s on it oh

Claire's yes no but this is like heartbreaking like I'm gonna have to take River to tattoo parlor to get her ears pierced that's

no she doesn't get the experience of the $50 cleansing bottle that they force you to buy

And then sit in that chair and like everyone who's shopping is like watching you get your ears pierced.

It's, it's honestly like part of childhood.

It's also like the first, one of the first times where you see like a cool teenage girl like working.

Yeah.

You know?

You're like, oh, she's like getting money by piercing my ears.

Yeah.

She's the coolest girl you've ever had.

What was your dream job when you were like in middle school?

Middle school?

Middle school?

You know, well, yeah, because like to that point when you were in middle school, like that was the type of job you're like, I want to.

thanks to a mary kate nashley movie holiday in the sun um i wanted to move to the bahamas and train dolphins uh did you ever see empire records have you seen yes of course i've seen empire records it's one of the great movies about the core and love of rock and roll and friendship like i wanted to work at a record store i wanted i wanted to wouldn't that be like the most amazing job yes i my dream job still to this day is to be like a radio dj in a small town that like has a secret there's still hope

secret.

Yeah.

Like it's a small town.

Yeah.

And I'm like, and when you say secret, like a like there's some mischief,

like a bad

minister priest situation.

Like I made a fail or like there's a monster.

Maybe a monster.

I'm, I see myself honestly like truly fully thriving in the Scooby-Doo universe.

Like in the way.

I see that too.

Right.

Zoinks.

Yeah.

Zoinks.

In the way that like I'm a DJ.

Freddie said that on Perfect Match.

Fred, a man named Freddie said zoinks.

They're talking about Scooby-Doo.

Guys.

Scooby-Doo's the best.

Anyway, that's my dream job.

I wanted to be on roller skates.

You wanted to be on roller skates?

That's it?

Like one of those people who work in like those diners on roller skates.

Oh, hell yeah.

That looks like it.

My sister worked at Sonic when I was,

you know, in my primal years, and she had to roller skate around the outdoor thing.

They don't do it anymore.

They don't do it anymore.

They don't do it in reality.

It is.

Yeah.

Nobody wants to work anymore.

When Paris and Nicole did it on Simple Life.

It's like, do you want it in your car or outside your car?

Yeah.

He's like, I can't do two things at once.

I can't pat my head and stop.

You want me to roll and stop?

The Scarblutter is here.

They are here.

All right.

Well, let's just get into OC.

Then we'll, after they leave, we'll get into a little Miami scening chart.

Bring on Andrew.

We're already kicking things off.

This episode is up and running.

Let's bring on the Scar Brothers.

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Randy Jason, welcome to the Vile Files.

What's up?

So good to be here.

Natalie, great to see you.

How are you guys?

Great to be here.

We're great.

How are you guys?

Fantastic.

Good.

I mean, a little rattled after the last episode of

when the Orange County gals go down to New Orleans, it does affect you.

They take it to a real city.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Then the big easy wasn't so easy, was it?

How are they going to get everybody down in first class?

And I don't know.

We got to take shifts.

Got to go shifts.

Half of them don't know how to open their suitcases.

The point is, we're happy to be here to talk about it with you guys.

Dig into it all.

Before we get into OC,

we're Brig fans.

You guys have been around for a while.

Yeah,

been around, been doing stand-up and been doing TV shows.

TV shows, Entourage, Better Call Saul.

You guys, your credits are, those are some of my favorites.

I'll love seeing you guys in.

She's like, I don't know any of this.

All right, so I'm going to speak to you directly.

I know, I'm joking.

Gray's anatomy.

Oh, yeah.

Randy and I were the conjoined twins who were in love with the same woman and then got separated.

Oh, that's good.

You remember that one, right?

Separated.

Did you go method for that?

Did you guys like live in the same pants for a day?

Okay.

I love that you said that.

So they made a prosthetic for us to get into and like, there's a whole there's like a separate leg and then there's a shared leg.

And we look at the distance between me and Jason touching him.

I will not touch him.

I do not want to touch him.

So they made it.

And the director who had just directed a great episode of The Wire, I'm sure you're young, cool director, this guy, like he's about six, six.

Dreads, thin black dude who had like, just the coolest looking guy ever.

And he was a great director because he would come in and whisper like.

a little bit of direction in my ear so he couldn't hear it.

And then I would play something in the scene.

He'd do the same to Randy.

And he was great.

And he's like, look, I just want to make sure you guys understand how uncomfortable this situation is.

Like, I want to see that on your face we're like we I don't want to be touching him right now so like that that's an easy when I touch Randy it's like if you're falling asleep on your arm and you wake up every night you wake up honestly think I have a problem well no you wake up and you feel like you're paralyzed because like it doesn't feel like it's part of your body you bang it against the wall a few times every night right yeah that's what it feels feels like when I touch Randy it's like touching my own cold dead self and so I'm explaining that's giving me too much credit I'm explaining to him being with Randy is lonelier than being alone okay I explain it I didn't need that we're not married it's okay.

So we

I explained that to him.

The guy's like, oh, you got it.

Oh, you got it.

You got it.

He's like, oh, you guys have this.

The best is that our dad, who's no longer alive, but when this episode aired, he was a funny guy.

He was like, you got it after it aired.

So the whole episode is we're both in love with the same woman.

We decide, spoiler alert, this is 20 years old.

We're spoiling it for the last time.

We haven't watched it by now.

Sorry.

We haven't restreamed it on Netflix.

Screw you.

So we separate.

We get the surgery to separate to find out which, who she's going to end up with.

Just so she could be with one of us and not both.

And we can settle this, like, this trial, this love triangle.

And then we decide that we don't want this woman to break up our friendship and our brothership and our relationship.

And so we decide to get, not get rid of her, but to

salvage this relationship over everything.

And it's a beautiful episode.

It was great.

And we got to be in like seven or eight scenes, and we got to watch Catherine Heigl have a meltdown because McDreamy got to leave early one night.

It was great.

It was great.

Oh, that's a little BTS.

Oh, yeah.

You want some behind the scenes?

So we were in in a massive scene.

We'll get to all this.

I know.

We're spilling so much tea right out the gates.

Oh, my God, Jay.

We were in a massive scene where, with like, they're all, all the doctors come in to look at us because we're like this crazy freak show.

Freak show of a thing.

And so everyone's in it, which means every single actor has to have their coverage.

You need your single.

They should have master shot in a scene, which is everybody.

And then they start going down the line and picking off everything.

And so you can get everybody's like,

what's that?

And, you know, and their lines.

And Patrick Dempsey early on says to the director, and it is a young director, he's like, hey, I have this benefit dinner that I have to be at tonight, that I'm the featured person.

They want me there.

Is there anything that they're going to shoot my stuff out early?

Whether he's telling the truth or not, I don't know, but he seems no way to verify.

I'm sure he does a lot of charity work.

Patrick Dempsey at the height of his McDreamy.

At the height of his depth.

He's the most McDreamy on earth.

He's never been more Dempsey in this world.

Yeah, he's so McDreamy.

No, this is the week after Isaiah Washington.

Is it Isaiah Washington?

Yeah, I think so.

He had the homophobic slur, and he wasn't in the episode.

And there's like extra eyes on this thing.

I mean, there were 27 million people watching this episode that we were in.

And when it aired initially, it was so popular that they, when we went and auditioned, we auditioned with dummy sides.

They weren't even the script because they didn't want people walking out of the thing telling like TMZ or whoever.

This is what it's about.

I don't even know if TMZ was a thing back then.

It was 2005.

Anyway, so Dempsey's out.

They shoot him first.

And Catherine Hagle finds out that he gets to leave early.

She goes into her trailer and will not come out, locks in for like, no, I'm stuck to this asshole in like in this prosthetic.

We're like, can we get out of this?

She's actually going to be able to do that.

Wait, I don't think that's going to stay longer.

Yeah, exactly.

Like you're already

trying to make a point.

She was like mailing a deal.

She's stubborn.

Right.

This is me.

I'm going to hold up the whole production if you don't.

Like, I'm going to make it so that everyone is upset.

So that everyone goes to her trailer and we can't leave because we're in this prosthetic because they're like, if we get him back right away, we want to go.

We want you guys to get out of it and then have to get get back in.

You're on standby as conjoined towards me.

Just sitting in a stairwell.

Touching my cold, dead self.

I'm like, oh my God.

When you walked, did you have to kind of like hop?

Yeah.

We had to like three-legged.

So across the room.

So our dad, coming back to that,

he watched the episode.

And he would never watch any episode of Greys and I.

Imagine your dad watching The Real Housewives of Orange County.

Probably not.

No, he wouldn't.

Probably not.

So he watches it and he's like, calls us afterwards and he's like, you guys need to call Shonda Rimme.

Call Conda Rhimes.

We're like, we'll get right on it.

Yeah, sure.

Sure, she's in our phone.

Call Shonda Rhimes and tell her you want to come back on the show next week and get sewn back up together.

Which we're like, that is the dumbest idea ever.

And then we're like,

holy shit, that is the most crazy anatomy story ever.

I'm like, Dad, are you Shonda Rhymes?

Two conjoined twins get separated, realize they miss it, they miss it.

It's like being in jail and not knowing how to live out in the real world.

See you in the next one.

Like in Shashi, when he doesn't know how to do it, and he has to go back to jail.

So it's like, so is backup.

Y'all know the conjoined twins that are in the middle.

They're in Minneapolis.

We've tried.

They're the ones who, one's a country music star and the other one's in a wheelbarrow.

No.

No, no.

Abby and Brittany, they like had a TLC show.

It's two, yeah, it's two heads.

One body.

But they just...

They went to college and they had to pay separate tuitions.

F that.

But then they had a job and they only got one salary.

It's like us.

What do we say?

Y'all understand.

We get it.

We get the the it's it's fun getting paid like one person.

Do you get who's who's the Danny DeVito and who's the Arnold Schwarzenegger?

So

just in terms of Aura and Riz,

not like Schwarzenegger.

I think we're both a little bit of both.

A little bit of both.

A little bit of Schwarzenegger.

Although I will say that we did, it's always sunny in Philadelphia.

And DeVito is the you gotta love that guy's career.

Comes out of the gates with taxi.

Then he does all these great movies.

He's fantastic.

And you're like, what else does he need to do?

Then he jumps in on arguably one of the best comedies of all time.

That's like in his brilliant season.

Brilliant.

Off the hook.

Can hang with the young comedy.

He is such an

set is what it is.

It's a bar.

It's a bar.

And then there's an office.

Like, there's his office.

And they're shooting a bunch of stuff out in the bar.

And he's just like hanging out in his office.

Like, just do it.

Right.

And he's just not even in the scene.

So he's like, instead of going back to his trailer, he knows he's got to work.

He's just hangs out right there.

He's so opposite of Catherine Hangaway.

Exactly.

He's ready to go with the drop of a shot.

But who's the legend in the business?

Who's the legend?

Who's the person we all know?

Don't throw so much shade.

But the point is.

I didn't throw so much shade at Catherine.

The point is,

I like 23 out of the 27 of her dresses.

Right?

I'm being nice.

So we walk into his office as they're just setting up a shot or something.

They're relighting it or whatnot.

Walk into his office and we just sit down.

We just start chatting with him.

He was so nice.

Like, he could have been like, you guys, I need some time to myself.

Was that like the most iconic person you've worked with?

Oh, my God.

No, we worked on, we did Wild Hogs.

So we worked with

Jean Travolta, Tim Allen, Bill Macy, Ray Liota, may he rest in peace, and

Marissa Tome.

Craziest moment on that, like for us in that movie, BTS, like crazy moment is we're hanging out Martin Lawrence to, I mean, great, great.

So Martin Lawrence had an assistant named Sean.

Was it Sean?

Sean was his assistant.

And who was the other woman?

Denise.

We never saw.

Sean was constantly turning and yelling to a person we never saw.

Yeah.

Denise.

Denise, we need something.

Where are you, Denise?

I've never went in Denise.

Would it show up?

For the whole, no, it's just for the so the best.

So one of the best moments is we're sitting in the area where all the producers, everybody says it's called Video Village.

They have like the two video screens of whatever they're shooting.

You know, you guys know.

I'm just explaining for your fans.

Your audience.

There's an area where the people who are.

I know and I know.

They don't know.

I know, you know, but there's an area for people to know.

It's called Video Village, where if you're an actor in the next scene, you sit in these like chairs, and producers sit there, and anyone else who's on the set, the writer.

And so we're sitting there just waiting because our next scene is up.

And like, Marissa Tomei is right here, and Travolta

winner Marissa Tome.

Two rows above in front of us is Travolta, who was very nice and very, just incredibly open.

And just, he was very, very cool.

And Martin Lawrence walks over with his daughter, who was probably about 14 or 15 years old at the time.

This is years ago.

And

he just nudges John.

We watch this whole thing happen.

It's like between scenes.

Again, they're setting up.

There's a lot of downtime on the set.

And he nudges John.

He's like, do it, John.

Just do it.

Will you do it for her?

Will you do it for her?

This is my daughter.

And John's so nice.

And John Travolta, sitting in a director's chair, sings like full-throated voice.

I got chills.

They're multiplying.

All the way through.

It's electrifying.

So we're like just sitting there, like, I can't believe this shit is happening right now.

And Marissa Tomei jumps up and screams like a she's at a slumber party.

She's a schoolgirl.

I was like, I cannot believe this is the guy who sang that song.

He was increasing.

What was the reaction from Martin Lawrence's daughter?

She loved it.

She loved it.

Not as much as Marissa Tome.

Not as much as Marissa Tomei.

She was like a typical 14-year-old girl.

It's like, it's good.

Cool.

Okay.

All right.

It was better than the movie.

Whatever.

Whatever.

I mean, it just was.

So we have had the distinct pleasure.

See, that's the opposite of my experience.

So, like, right after I was, one of the times I was on the bachelor, I went to do like the press tour, and Mario Lopez

was supposed to interview me.

He rests in peace.

I know he's not dead.

He just literally got to get a good night's sleep.

That's it.

But I was told before I interviewed him.

He needs his eight to ten.

Do not ask him about Save by the Bell.

Don't.

Why?

Why?

You made your bones on that.

That's like telling a kid, don't look at the mark on the guy's face.

I was like, I can't say that.

I dressed up as you for Halloween.

I cut the sleeves off of so many shirts because of you, bro.

And I can't talk about it.

I think he's mad.

Meanwhile, John's singing.

I mean, Mario Lopez, first of all, can we just say, looks great

at whatever age.

He's incredible.

So I give him a- I mean, I think we look great.

We don't look like Mario Lopez.

Mario Lopez looks phenomenal, number one.

Number two, congratulations on having working all this time.

This is wonderful.

If I saw him, I'd be like, this is great.

Look what you built out of the fact.

I think he's mad that he had to do like a battle.

I was the guy in every hotel room

in the world, maybe, certainly in America.

Yeah.

Maybe.

I just would love.

I would love to be good in one hotel room.

I don't have to be in all those.

I like to be in all.

The superstar in one hotel.

Well, is there any reality TV show that y'all would like love to make a cameo in?

Oh, yeah.

Jay, you're, I mean, you, I feel like I could appear on Vanderpump.

Now that the new cast is is coming, we don't know who's who.

Jay likes a couple extra pumps on the old pumper.

Okay.

I'll tell you why, because, and I think I was, we were talking about this with you when we hung the other day, which was there is a British documentary series called 7 Up.

7 Up, 14 up, 21 up, 28 up.

They take these kids and they look at them every seven years and they put it all together in a thing.

It's a, there's been like fascinating.

I think they're up to 70.

I think these people are in their 70s now.

Started in like the 1960s.

It is so fascinating.

And when I started watching Vanderbump, I'm like, oh my God, if they keep going for like 10 or 12 years, they're basically doing it without the seven-year breaks.

We're watching these people age in real time.

We're watching them go from crazy young partiers in their early 20s to starting to have relationships to then breaking up from their relationships to then getting married to then starting to have kids.

And you're like, oh, this is the cycle of adult life.

that we're watching through these like nine people or eight people's lives.

What would you do if you came onto that show?

I don't know.

I mean,

I would let you pick a fight with like Jax.

No,

yeah, would you take your shirt off and pick a fight by basically rubbing each other's nipples against each other?

That would be one.

That would happen in season one.

That happens in season one.

What would you just like make a pumptini and like a pumptini?

Yeah, what if I'm just suddenly behind the bar?

Would you go to Hawaii and steal sunglasses from the 7-Eleven?

Ooh, that maybe I'd be up

and try to get all the information on, is it Rachel or Raquel?

Like, I want to know who's saying it right.

I want to, because they're like, we're all just assuming.

You know what would be great is if you did collect all that information and then we came on one episode and gathered everyone together.

You could cut it in like totally out of it.

And we break the news as to what it is and we go off on all the people who've been doing it wrong.

Didn't we do a short film rant, a short thing with Ariana?

Yeah, we did.

We did.

When she was like acting.

When she was, well, she tried to do it.

Trying to do comedy.

She stand-ups.

She takes comedy very seriously.

I don't know if you knew that about her.

I mean, apparently we did not.

We did not.

We're still in the comedy world.

Yeah, no.

I mean, we were in a little

short film that our friends did.

I think it's, you know, she came in at the end.

It was the assistant.

I watched the Bachelor, this past Bachelor.

Grant.

And that was fascinating and interesting and, you know, cool.

I kept waiting for Grant to not be who he was, but I think there's got to be another shoe to drop here.

Well, Well, they're no longer together.

So I think there's like a little bit of maybe some tea out there.

Yeah, there's, I think, I think there's something we don't know.

There's something we don't know.

Right?

Like, what?

Were you feeling that too, a little bit like in him?

Like, because I'm like, he can't be this great.

I was feeling like Juliana.

No, I was feeling like Juliana was like the safe, like the type of girls he's always dated.

And Latia was maybe like a little bit more mature than him.

She was like ready to settle down.

But also had like a weird religious kind of lane that she was in that was like, this is who she is.

This is, this is how hardcore do I have to get to be with you?

Right.

And that was how much of myself do I have to change in order to fit into this thing?

It was unclear.

It was unclear.

Do I have to become LDS or do I have to do LDS?

Yeah.

Like, do I have to go down that road?

And I'm like, I don't know if he can.

Does he have to stop drinking coffee?

Right.

Can he, can he do coffee animals?

Can he get two more wives?

Yeah.

Do we not have sex?

And I just, someone jump on the bed while I'm like near you.

And then like, then we...

Soaking?

What is it?

Well, we do have a rapid recap of the most recent episode of Real House Has Orange County.

If you didn't switch it,

can we just, and the truth is, like, we're huge sports fans too.

We did a show on ASPN for four years that ran for a decade.

And we guest host like.

Jim Rome's radio show, all this stuff.

So like, we are deeply entrenched in the sports world as well.

Watch a lot of sports, love it.

But we also watch the reality.

Yeah, so I feel like the Real Housewives at times and can be more competitive and more intense than like 100

the craziest sporting event you've you've ever seen no i talk about these the characters the women in the show like fan like my fantasy football team yeah i do there are moments where i'm like ooh katie had a good week yeah she only got called out for lying once or she got one call out this week for videotaping which i thought was a good joke it was a good job

she likes to

like unexpected shannon solid she likes to record things i'm like shannon how'd you come up with that joke and you can't open up your suitcase

it's so good and in that moment we're like all right that's a good dig but how did she and she took it well so like in those ways katie took it well in that moment did were you surprised that she took it well or did you feel like she it's almost like when a receiver gets hit coming over the middle and then gets right up it gets right up and it's like okay okay okay okay i felt like she took it i felt like she was you know like you know what i walked right into that you can have it she really walked into it yeah she kind of walked right into it but like i don't know i'm sorry so you didn't mean to interrupt that's how we so if we discuss it in the in those terms that's how we sometimes view it.

You get it.

Yeah, I get it.

All right, here is our rapid recap.

If you didn't catch this week's episode of The Real Hawswives of Orange County, Gina finally moved and she has a pantry.

Huge news, but her man's ex is still an issue.

Rooting for your girl, Gina, not the ex.

Tamara found a fatty photo of Jen and showed everyone, which is a word that she's in.

Sharing the fatty photo.

Jesus Christ.

What the hell?

Also, not that fat.

Also, no one.

Like a flowy shirt is suddenly fat.

Apparently, if I gain five pounds, that's what she's doing.

Just tell a fatty puffy.

It's a puffy shirt.

Let's not, like, Let's not call the player the

only player is the uniform.

Like, just because you're wearing a puffy

shirt.

We're not suddenly going to question it.

Morning after drinking.

Thank you.

It looked like she was just chilling and hanging out in her big jeans.

It was like when people this summer started going after Patrick Mahomes for having a dad bod on the beach.

It's like, the guy's insane.

Let him be who he is.

Let him cook.

We know

who he is at the end of the season.

We don't need to start going after her for an an old pick.

We don't.

But it was the fatty pick that was heard around the world.

But it also, Tamara's the one who called it fatty.

And then everyone said, no one said fatty.

No one put fatty in quotes.

Everyone was just like, it's a fatty pick.

They're like, yeah, no, she does look fat there.

Yeah.

That is.

This is the alleged fatty photo we've been talking about.

This is.

But don't worry, the fat shaming is part of a new type of therapy Tamara is doing where you don't change your behavior whatsoever, but use it as an excuse for work purposes.

Genius.

Fatty therapy.

Guys, guys, I'm just having a really difficult time.

She's just having a really difficult time.

Heather cannot see Tamra's perspective, but she can see one's perspective on fat shaming, which leads Jen to think that Heather is bamboozled, which is a word that should be back in the cultural lexicon, even if she did not use it 100% correctly.

No.

Also, Gretchen calls Tamra delusional, which is a correct way to use a word, so points to her.

Then we've got Jen's ex still not paying his child support, blah, blah, blah.

But the girls are going to New Orleans.

Will this trip hold up to the Vanderprup Rules New Orleans trip?

Only time will tell.

Slade should do drag.

Already, we're doing.

Slade and drag.

Oh, my God.

Slade and drag.

Although he wouldn't fully commit to it because he's not fully, he's not married to her.

Life partner.

That's so true.

What do you talk about?

We talk about that in issues.

In terms of sports, it's like give her a full, give her a 10-year contract.

Like at this point, you're making every contract here.

She's got to like hunt.

You have to prove it every year.

I'm signing bonus.

She breaks his dick and I'm like, this is over.

Remember, she broke it.

This now is good for that.

Why are we not Captain Hook?

Already we're doing great, though, because no one knew they were on the Mississippi River.

The girls think every log is a a gator and Shannon's going full frontal with her koot coot out.

Amazing.

No no.

That?

Can we just like talk about that?

I was like,

she was full.

She did not make an attempt to like cover it up.

No, she asked.

And why would she?

She kept it.

And I'm like, there was enough.

She kept the mouth of the Mississipp open.

It's the old delta.

Camera's front and center.

I'm just saying there was.

There's a lot of cargo.

A lot of cargo.

We're going to drop a barge in there.

Plus, it's revealed Terry wears lifts.

Jax Taylor, you are not alone.

Incredible business idea.

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But if you're a short king, you can only go to Big and Tall if you purchase the Lyfts.

We are open to brand deals here at the Valve Files.

Then, Jen says her vagina doesn't work.

The episode ends peacefully, but I don't imagine it will stay that way for long.

Overall, is Gretchen secretly the invisible man in the detective outfit?

Will Shannon be able to battle voodoo magic?

Find out next week on the Real House website.

I'm glad we have two, three men in this room for an episode that talks about a vagina not work out of commission.

It works still.

Let's be honest.

It's only the tip only the cover

i can't even i i can't begin to participate in this conversation i also i don't really understand apparently she got pelvic floor she got her pelvic floor worked on worked on which i will not like maybe a tmi but after natal had her our first child our our doctor gave us doctor gave me a high five yeah oh really based on her pelvic flavic floor was status oh yeah my pelvic floor status yeah it was good or bad apparently it was game-changing game changing

say?

The Keggles do whatever.

I don't know what that means, Doc, but your pelvic floor.

Your pelvic ceiling is tremendous.

So I feel like maybe that's what Jen.

Jen, maybe the children, she does have a lot of children, although some of them have been adopted.

Wait, does Jen have a lot of children?

And the craziest thing is the adopted children affected the pelvic floor somehow more than the other ones.

Is that like having a garage with a gravel floor?

Yeah, that's like we gotta, we gotta, this is decomposed granite down here.

We gotta, like, we might have some runoff if it rains too much.

Let's

run off on her pelvic floor.

It's not too much.

And we're back to the Mississippi River, guys.

Them saying that her mouth is tired.

I mean,

there's no way, Ryan.

No way.

You can tell him by his face.

He loves a lot of people.

Ryan's not letting her get away

with no sex.

He's like, you got to give me something.

Yeah.

You should, I showed up with a broken knee.

Right.

And I'm going up and down the stairs to show you how to do it.

You don't make him go up and down the stairs.

To show you dresses and then go to parties.

Also, can we just like, I know you mentioned this at the beginning.

Like, is Gina's house big?

I don't think it's that big everyone walked in is like it is you know i know where it's located so nice shannon's saying it's nice that's like a dig

that's literally a dig like she said it eight times like do you think it's nice well want one's opinion one's opinion i want to think that it is so let's so let's get back to her for a second heather talking about the lifts that her husband has okay her she has a lot of money yeah like that she is clearly perhaps the most wealthy like she's the jerry jones of the whole thing like she's got the cash she could bankroll the whole trip if she wanted to and then she's complaining about lifts from China.

Like, what does that mean?

The lifts are so expensive that those are the last shoes he's ever going to buy.

The lifts he's ever going to buy.

Like, it sounds like you can afford tons of lifts, and everything from China is cheap.

So, I don't understand that whole logic start going down a weird road.

She's very like, How is this presented?

Like, Heather, I'm sure, has a ruler.

You know how, like, we do for our kids as they grew up.

Like, there's a, there's the linen closet.

We open the door and we mark their height as they, we've marked that as they've grown up.

You guys ever, was one ever taller than the other growing up?

No, we're about the same.

We're about the same.

But Jay, Jay, you have those Sakai.

Oh, I have these Japanese shoes.

I didn't wear them today.

These Japanese Sakai Nike like collabs.

And they make me like an inch and a half taller.

And your kids just like that.

When I put them on to go do comedy, my 11-year-old daughter and my wife start roasting me.

Are you going to put on your high-heel shoes to go do comedy?

Are you going to put on your high-heel shoes?

I'm like, hey.

If anything, they're wedges.

Thank you.

And I high-five no one.

They are more like wedges.

So I'm sure like Heather has like a closet door that you open up and like she marks her height versus Terry's height.

For sure.

You'd think that Terry would have like a Dior or

some sort of name brand.

Terry's too high to care.

He's like three joints.

Terry would like perform surgery on his knees or something.

Yeah, can he extend and get the extended length in your calves, Terry?

Why can't he do that?

Didn't he have a show?

He had a TV show, like a plastic surgery show.

Votched.

Votched.

So maybe he voted his height.

See, that's the problem with that show: is like if it does go off the air, you're like, yeah, someone screwed that up.

You don't want to make the name of your show a mistake, right?

What's the name of your plastic surgery show?

Canceled.

No, they fucked it up.

That's what I was doing.

They were fixing everyone.

I know.

They were fixing.

The bats are fixed.

They were fixers.

They were fixers.

It was like Fixer Upper.

Right.

HGTV show.

It's like instead of Flip This House, it was Flip This Bitch.

Exactly.

Flipper Fixer.

Why can't he fix Jen's vagina?

Get in there and open it up.

That's so true.

Open it up, Terry.

Jen to botch.

Yeah, that is a good point.

Is that a cosmetic procedure?

I don't know if insurance would cover.

What are the chances Jen is just faking this because she doesn't want to have sex with her boyfriend?

I think they're so obsessed with each other.

They definitely want to have sex with each other.

He is obsessed with her.

He is.

I can't say that she's obsessed with him.

They always call each other.

They're like, you're so hot, baby.

God, you're so sexy.

It's just so hot.

But we all know that when you say that a lot, when you say that a lot, it's not.

I never tell my wife she looks good.

And I think she's good.

No, Nick doesn't know.

Nick's like, you look nice.

What are you?

What are you?

Wow.

Gina's house?

She looks nice today.

Wow, that's fine.

That's fine.

I mean, but I do not think Gina, and correct me if I'm wrong, I'm not like here to say, you know, you go see these shows and you're like, these houses should be enormous.

Okay.

If you're living down in Orange County, Heather's house is enormous.

Everyone else is dealing with like a divorce.

You know, Jen can't pay rent.

She reminded us that she got evicted this episode.

Right.

Listen, Heather is getting on top.

Heather is is the most

active athlete in this bitch.

She is.

She is.

She is.

Although Jen is like in the best shape of everybody in the whole thing.

Well, you know, Tamra wants her tummy tuck.

Tamra used to do fitness competitions.

We saw that a couple episodes.

But then Jen also wanted to do fitness competitions.

So now do we think Jen is trying to white-single female this shit up?

Well, we did interview Tamra last week.

You did?

Oh, we did.

We're going deeper.

If you haven't listened to it, it's a full 70 minutes of unplugged Tamara.

How is she?

Was she just like spilling tea left and right and just giving opinions?

She doesn't hold back.

She's not all back.

It's cool.

I buy that.

She is very much herself.

Yeah.

Well, she showed up where

this is like a job, and I kind of respected it.

It's just like, I don't really.

She knows what she has to do.

Like, she might be in therapy, but that doesn't mean I'm not going to like deliver like great one-liners and snark to my cast.

I'm going to ask you this.

Do you think, for real, do you think she's happy?

Tamra?

Yeah.

I honestly don't think the show, I think she was happier when she was like put on pause.

She was just doing her podcast with Teddy and she was like not, I think the show.

I mean, it makes, yeah, I mean, you have to create drama, right?

Or people are coming at you.

Like,

her friend dealing with obviously.

Yeah, that's terrible.

Cancer.

Horrible.

If I had to guess, I would say Tamara is one of the happier housewives in this universe because she comes across as someone who can just, who doesn't live in her character.

She seems like she can actually separate the two, where she shows up for work.

There's some drama.

Yeah, she understands the assignment.

If I want to be a part of this world, people are going to talk their shit.

I got to dig in.

I got to dig in.

You're going to certainly deal with many unsavory rumors.

I feel like even over the weekend, Tamara was like addressing some like hateful, like Facebook rumors that weren't true or whatever.

But that aside, she seems like she doesn't live inside her character shoes where it seems like other people in Bravo, there really is no disconnect.

They're like, this is who I am, and I, and I have to play up to that, which, by the way, is like being in your own sort of like prison because you can't get out of that.

Do we think, I have a crazy off-topic question.

Do we think Emily hasn't had her moment on this in this season yet?

I feel like she's been

kid who won't eat food is her like storyline of the season and her short husband Shane and her shirt and her ass

and her ass.

That was a random, like, hey, she's like, here, just my ass.

It's a great ass.

It's a great

random, like, pull up my dig.

Right.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's, I mean, that was a, that was a beauty shot.

Yeah.

That was a, that was a Shannon.

Are we going to look at this?

I'm not pulling this down.

Right.

Yeah, Emily's never really been like a star, you know.

No, she's not a, she's not, but she's not a pot stirrer, and she's not a, like, there are pot stirrers, and there are people who make the piece.

She feels like someone who makes the piece.

She tries to make the piece.

And do you think that that hurts her in this, in this scenario?

Like, I could never see.

I mean, yes, she did come with Gina to the coffee to ambush Katie.

Katie shows up.

Katie shows up and she's like a sports analogy.

Katie shows up thinking she's going to play man-on-man.

It's one-on-one.

Then all of a sudden, two people show up, and she's like, oh, shit.

I got to run zone now.

I got to cover a whole area.

I got to do shots over here.

Like, what am I doing right now?

When do I pick up?

My favorite is like when a subject is done and then they keep bringing it back up.

Like, they keep coming back at it.

Three episodes later.

Three episodes later.

I was like, didn't we solve this at the weird

Japanese restaurant where you had to get your food from like a 7-Eleven?

No, they never said that.

Back to your question: Do we think that Jen's really single, white, female Tamara?

Do we have, I want to play a clip for Randy and Jason to see what they think about what Tamra's.

I'm curious to hear what Tamra

because I think on the show she says, yes, she is.

She is coming.

Well, and according to Heather, she doesn't necessarily believe Tamra's version, but one, one, one, one, one, one could.

One could.

That's such a

very good people on all sides.

She literally is saying, I 100% believe that.

Yeah.

Let's hear it.

It's like, there's a fatty picture.

Tamara thinks you're obsessed with her.

Like all this stuff.

Okay.

So I'll take it back.

So Jen

started coming to my gym, like, I don't know, 2019, maybe.

And she wanted to do a fitness competition.

And, you know, she wanted to open up a gym, a yoga studio.

And so

I didn't know her.

I didn't know her at all.

And

some of the people in my studio, they're like, be careful of her.

She's obsessed with getting on the housewives.

I go, what do you mean?

She's so sweet.

She's, she fosters animals and adopts kids.

Like, she's the sweetest girl ever.

Cause she, like, her,

like,

innocent.

So she's like, she came with receipts from other people that weren't just her.

Like that was, that's what makes that clip interesting because she's like, other people told me like I

sent her the scouting report.

I do think that every woman around these women's age in Orange County wants to be a housewife.

Totally.

And every woman wants to have that.

Okay,

what does being a housewife mean in Newport Beach?

If I'm in my brain,

if you're not a real housewife of the OC, then you are one of many who shows up at restaurants and has to wait for your tables, who has no one coming up to them being like, I saw you.

And da-da-da.

Like you live the life of Clark Kent.

We We did a comedy show at the Pendry Hotel down in Newport Beach, which is a beautiful hotel and really cool.

And they have this like club and a back room.

And I mean, we did it for these people there.

We came out just to get our cars and like drive back up to LA.

The scene there.

To get into the Pendry.

At the valet stand.

But it was the bar spilling out there.

They love a celebrity sighting.

So

they love a celebrity sighting down there more than anything.

And just if you can be that celebrity that everyone is talking about, if you're the coolest person in that whole bar scene on that night in Saturday night.

You wouldn't want that.

That's right.

You wouldn't want that.

Fortunately,

it is.

Without having to go through the paces of.

building an entire like acting career or whatever career, if you can just jump in and just spill a bunch of tea and be that person in this series.

And you're like, I'm going to be a little bit more.

So yeah, so if someone starts coming around being like, I want to open my gym and starts asking a lot of questions to Tamara, like I love that Tamra's receptors weren't even up that like this person could be angling to be on.

Right.

I feel like that's a little bit like

you got to be

aware that this is happening.

And I want to totally get in that world because so much of that world has like, is about bloggers and fans interacting with Bravo celebrities.

That's right.

That's right.

And who's angling for it and who's just being a fan?

Yeah.

And it like, and there's a lot of like not respecting personal boundaries because fans are like, hey, we pay your salary type of thing.

Also, we know you in most we see so much of your personal life.

So I can see why like an OG like Tamara feels uncomfortable with the idea of someone who gets casted who presented as like a fan first.

So the big thing for me, which is really interesting, is like

the

one thing that most housewives really want, certainly this season, is they want people to own up to their past shit.

That's like the thing.

It's like, I want her to admit that she said some mean stuff a long time ago.

She has to take responsibility for what she said.

That's a big thing.

Like if someone doesn't take responsibility for what they said to a blogger about this or what they said about my kids and the custody, everyone's got custody issues.

Everyone's got custody issues.

Everyone got custody issues.

FBI has been called to two houses.

Yeah.

But like if people don't own up to what they did, which is why Katie is such, like, gets so much heat all the time because she seems to never say it.

Well, going back to Emily, we learned just Gina went on Watch What Happens Live and dropped the bomb that I don't know if y'all watched, but last reunion, there was this whole, you know, Emily revealed all of this.

Well, Katie, you went in this crazy custody battle and you had to like give your kids up to your expenses.

She had to go to a facility in Atlanta.

And turns out all of that really came from Heather Dubrow.

And Heather Dubru just like gave Emily.

Yeah, Gina was definitely nervous to say it was Heather who did the digging, but Emily was the one who delivered.

And she honestly

delivered without having to be like, wait, Heather, what was it that happened?

I don't remember everything you told me.

Like, she was, she clocked it all.

She did it all.

Do you think she should have said that?

Oh, God, no.

I think it was awful.

But as to Heather.

Or do you think she should have said Heather?

I mean, that would have been the ultimate.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

The ultimate is she goes in hard, like hard in the paint on.

on Katie about the losing your kid and having the facility.

And then just to the very last detail.

I'm sorry, Heather.

You were telling me to say this to get all the things you told me.

That would have been the best turn.

How great would that turn have been?

And she would have just turned the screw on her.

Because you know, Heather would have probably been like, um,

I didn't.

Not me, but one.

Yeah, one.

One would

have to be.

One could have said.

I would think that's.

Yeah, that's exactly what one would say.

One could have said something.

Also, how about like they're at the, they're in this like enormous room with a little table eating in New Orleans.

That's supposedly haunted.

Supposedly haunted.

What happened there?

Who she got water spilled on her back?

No, it was a chocolatini or like a

espresso martini.

And then they try to say that it was the ghost.

It was definitely like the waiter who just

filled it up for, I watched it too.

Accidentally, the waiter, like maybe the ghost maneuvered the waiter's hand.

Was the ghost telling them to lay down and pretend like they're having sex from behind?

Well, that was an interesting moment.

They all talked about their favorite positions.

That was like, also, just one little side note is like, I do think it is great that you at your party, Heather, have the do the shot throw it at a gong definitely party that no one was at party that no one no one was at definitely don't have Katie be the first one to throw a glass at a gong also feels like a slipping hazard I don't know totally everywhere yeah they're not quick to clean it up so there's broken glass on the ground I think it's all I think it's all ice or ice like frozen ice

oh it's ice okay yeah still

still I was like

ice melts it becomes water it becomes a hazard and it's a problem and I doubt they had the yellow like slipping signs Caution, caution.

I think Terry was just like, I'm just going to start smoking joints as soon as I get there.

Oh, when he shows up, when Terry shows up high.

Hi.

Terry's like got there.

Wait, where's my weed?

What happened to it?

We watched you smoke it down, bro.

Yeah, bro.

Please tell me you're not high as you're doing your.

I think he asked me.

That's how you botch stuff.

That's literally how you botch, though.

He's the fixer.

Randy, Jason, thanks so much for coming.

Yeah, loved it, man.

So much fun, man.

Where can people find you, follow you?

I know you guys are on tour.

Tell them all the things.

All right, so you guys have fans in Phoenix.

I'm sure you have lots of fans in Phoenix.

We have shows coming up, live shows.

Come support live comedy.

It's so much fun.

Our show is a blast.

Great date night.

Great date night.

So we're at the Desert Ridge Improv, which is kind of near Scottsdale.

How come there isn't a Real Housewives with Scottsdale?

That's got to happen.

That should happen immediately.

We'll be there at the Desert Ridge Improv one show Thursday, two Friday, two Saturday.

Super fun stuff.

14th, 15th, 16th.

Yeah, that's the end of this week.

That's this week.

That's this week.

This week.

Holy crap.

So we'll be there this week, and that's cool.

It's spontaneous if you have nothing going on this week.

Come on.

Super fun.

And then we have some.

And come up and say hi to us afterwards if you heard us on this show.

Yeah.

Be like, hey, I heard you guys on the biofiles.

Let's do it.

So that's at superscars.com.

And we have a podcast, Dumb People Town, which is us just riffing on dumb people doing dumb things, which is a lot of

similar.

It's a lot of stories from Florida ground.

And that's it.

And thanks.

Congratulations on your show, and thanks for having us.

Well, hope you guys come back again soon.

Always fun.

Love it.

Love it.

You guys are the best.

So fun.

Up next, we'll get into a little Housewives of Miami.

And then Andrew Spencer joins us to talk some Bachelor in Paradise.

That's all up next.

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Really?

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They've got some fun, like, industry stories.

That was a good idea.

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Don't forget, tomorrow's reality recap, we have Lisa Hoxteen with us to get into all things Miami, but specifically her very public, very messy divorce.

We are talking with her tomorrow.

Plus, we have Brian joining us tomorrow from Bachelor in Paradise to tell us his favorite color, give his side of the story, why he decided to

do what he did, sell Jeremy down the river, so to speak, and Freddie from Perfect Match.

And we'll get into a lot of Perfect Match tomorrow because today was so jam-packed heavy with some other shows.

We'll get into episode seven, eight, and probably nine.

Maybe we'll save nine for Thursday because Sandy joins us on Thursday for an episode of Reality Recap.

It's a jam-packed week, full of your favorite reality TV stars all week long.

But before we get to Andrew, who is up next, we got a little rapid recap of Real Housewives of Miami before we get into Andrew.

Well, if you didn't catch last week's episode of The Real Housewives of Miami, here is your rapid recap.

We started this episode out strong with a trip to a high-end doggy brothel where Audreya is taking her dog Basquiat for one night of pleasure before he gets clipped.

And people say Florida has no culture.

Then we get a Dr.

Jackie from Married to Medicine cameo to hype Gertie up.

It turns out Julia's daughters aren't loving that Julia and Martina adopted two baby boys without really communicating with them that they plan to adopt two baby boys.

So maybe Gertie really didn't piss Julia off and she's just like that.

But who's to say?

Most importantly though, Marisol is having a preppy luncheon and the lacoste is lacosting, mama.

Gertie's take on preppy was much more avoid core, which is of course putting a tie on a normal outfit.

And Larsa didn't dress preppy, she dressed slutty.

This makes sense because preppy and slutty are actually the only two legal style options for rich women in South Florida.

If she and Lisa could only realize that they are slut allies, two sides of the same slut coin, perhaps one day.

God, I want to be called a slut slut.

Would you be my slut ally?

I would love to be your slut ally.

We can make that.

That is so chic.

Anyway, Adriana is getting her master's in psychology from Harvard online.

So she wore a Harvard sweatshirt.

Marisol is not impressed by this, as she also has a Harvard sweatshirt that she got at the airport in Boston.

Right.

Gertie and Julia seem to make up, but we don't believe it.

Stephanie and Alexia debate one Rottweiler versus 100 Chihuahuas.

And finally, Alexia turns down an offer to fly on Stephanie's private plane because she is a woman of the people.

Doesn't like Stephanie.

Overall, do we think Basquiat got the other dog pregnant?

Why do we want to wear lacos now?

Who will ride in Stephanie Sojay's jet?

Find out next week on the Real House Wives of Miami.

Couple observations this episode specifically around Julia.

One, she's a stunner.

Julia.

Yeah, she is.

She is very

good.

Those flashback photos, I mean, just like, let's just give her props.

She's an absolute babe.

Also, I didn't know her wife was like,

i just didn't i just thought she was just another wife

i have a little lord drop not about me but about the show the l-word if anyone is familiar with it i'm familiar with the lward you're familiar with the l-word yeah love that for you um

popular show popular show from the 2000s and if you are a person that was watching showtime in the 2000s or just a gay person you have probably watched

yeah it was showtime um anyway the character dana who was a tennis player, they referenced Martina Navikalova all the time in earlier seasons because she was like the only gay tennis player.

And I think they based her character on it a lot.

And then when I was watching Miami and saw that the real life Martina Navikalova is married to Julia from the Real Housewives of Miami, it broke my brain.

And it was a crossover that I didn't know.

It kind of broke my brain last night.

But also, just like, we said this a few weeks ago, but like talking about her daughters, we were right.

The introduction of her adopted children has been the most bizarre revelation or just kind of, I don't, disclosure or just feature.

I don't, yeah, but her own children are kind of like, what, what's going on?

We're confused.

What do you think?

We have brothers?

Cool.

It's a weird thing.

Yeah.

It's a weird thing.

It's interesting.

Also, just like in general, like watching housewives, it's just like now being new parents, like there's a lot of housewives out there whose children aren't talking to them.

And I think a lot of times we want to, like, I think as people like judge that, but you never know.

I hope our daughter always talks to us.

Yeah, Nick's always like, listen, she could be pissed at you for like you not letting her have those gummies.

And she could like carry that grudge for years.

Yeah.

Yeah, it just, you know, what if maybe, maybe we can't help it?

Maybe kids don't want to talk to their parents.

I don't know.

I think it's tough to be a kid of a reality TV star.

Yeah.

An active reality TV star in their 50s.

I can't imagine.

You know what I mean?

Like anything.

Who's like trying to save the exclusive for the TV show so they don't tell the daughters that they also have a new sibling?

Like that would be hard.

It's that even the whole storyline of the cruise ship that happened a year and a half ago.

Like it's just kind of like you just never know.

Like I just feel like no one is safe in the immediate realms of a reality TV star, especially a Bravo housewife.

Yeah.

Unless they like purposefully set up those boundaries.

But a lot of the times when you don't, you're off the show because you either need to make everyone else's drama your drama or you got to show us something.

Should we quickly talk about the seating chart of Miami, the Rami Reunion filmed over this past week?

Yeah, I do think people are pissed about Stephanie Sojay's being first chair next to Andy.

Why are people pissed?

I'm sorry, she ate down this season.

Thank you.

I was like, for a newcomer, honestly, whoever is doing the casting for these housewives shows, wait, Julia's.

But why, why are we

even like, just let's, why don't we just call it what it is, Andy's favorites?

Gertie is first chair.

Gertie and Julie.

Wait, the one that I'm looking at is Stephanie Sojay and Alexia.

There were two scenarios that were released.

So one of these are fake.

I didn't have a fake seed.

I didn't look into it.

So I don't know whether it was like one was fake or one was just like publicity, but Stephanie responded to the one that had her first chair.

Also, Monica Garcia was first chair her season of Solid City.

That's what I'm saying.

I'm like, these new housewives, if they come on and they're able to not only keep up with the OG cast, but also it's like stand on their own two feet and not being like bullied and ran over, they deserve a first chair.

All love to Stephanie.

It would make the most.

logistical sense though to have Gertie and Julia first chair because I do I mean obviously I don't know how the rest of the season plays out it seems as if the big through line of the season is their drama.

Can I have a hot take?

Their drama is the cruise ship, and they got first seats because of the fucking cruise ship.

I happened to be thinking about it.

I'm not saying it's interesting.

I'm so, yeah, like I'm taught.

Like, I might be alone here, but I was like, it's not a hot take because you agree with me clearly.

I'm so sick of this storyline.

If I have to watch them sit down and have another apology conversation one more time, either at the end of the day, it's not like something crazy happened on this cruise ship.

One of you better be punched.

Literally, like there was a miscommunication and then someone said it's like it's really not that big of a deal.

And the one the one that was not allowed to come to dinner is the one who didn't bring this to cameras.

And then you're the one that's over here with your with your publicist on this cruise ship.

You didn't need Gertie there in the first place.

Yeah.

So like why are we thinking about this a drama?

Like I completely agree with that.

I don't like it's not like I want that drama to be the main thing we talk about at the reunion, but Stephanie easily very easily can be first chair and I'm totally fine.

Okay.

this is what's on bravo tv and it's the one with stephanie showjay first chair with alexia alexia that's great then lisa and larsa uh-huh gertie julia adriana mary salt and then kiki what

i think of um larsa's recent face her prp yeah her prp i mean i've done a prp and i it didn't do that but she did say that it was like swollen and i will say in her video from 10 miles away from the mirror there was two she posted two.

Did she post like selfie style of her face?

She did.

Yes.

With a filter.

Yeah.

So that was kind of the like, I mean, that picture that came out of her was crazy.

And I'm also kind of like, that's the thing too, where I'm like, I never trust anything that I see with like awful photos because I'm also kind of like, how easy it is for a paparazzi or for someone to turn up like the contrast.

She does look good there.

She does have a filter on there.

But at the same time, I'm like,

She's also not smiling.

I do feel like when you smile, obviously like your, you know, your cheeks go up.

And I I feel like that's what made that photo look so insane because her, it looked like she had so much cheek filler.

Do you ever see those like Instagram pages that are like dedicated to like fake in reality?

And then it's like the reality photo.

It's like somebody like Kendall Jenner on the red carpet.

And then it's like her reality photo.

And they're like zoomed into her pores and like clearly contrasted her photo when she was like 16 versus like literally.

In the second video, Larsa claims the photo that's circulating is edited.

Well, and that's the thing.

I mean, that would make sure that she got the PRP for the reunion and they just filmed it.

So I'm like, you're going to see her real

quick.

No matter what.

Yeah.

But I'm like, it's crazy.

What does PRP stand for?

Plasma.

Something with, like, they like take your blood and put it into.

I think we need to normalize that sometimes you get a photo taken and you look a little busted sometimes.

And that's fine.

That's every picture of me on the internet.

I know.

It's me eating a sandwich.

It's literally stupid, you know.

Platelet-rich plasma.

So it's putting your own blood to rejuvenate your skin.

And I lied.

I did not do this.

I've done PRX,

not PRP.

Yeah.

But that's also so too.

I'm like,

did you see that Gertie and Kiki unfollowed each other?

And then Gurdy responded, it was like, I never unfollowed her.

This is news to my ears.

I must be blocked.

So something happened to where Kiki now has blocked Gurdy.

Oh, my God.

So maybe we need to move Kiki up on the couch.

Yeah.

Or maybe we find out at the reunion.

Maybe Gurdy's just making sure she's back next season.

Crazy.

And she would have had to block.

If Kiki's going to be able to do that.

Maybe Kiki's making sure she's back.

Kiki's so great.

Fans and housewives across the board are behind Gertie.

I'm Team Gurdy.

I am too.

I mean, when it comes to like her and Julia, I'm like,

I would love for Gertie to be able to talk about something that's not Julia.

Yeah.

But I'm Team Gurdy.

Did we get a response from Heather regarding the Gina revelation on Watch What Happens Live?

We did.

Sierra, do you want to read it?

Yes.

Heather responded in the comment section of a blog.

Let's set the record straight.

That's the way to do it.

This is so sad.

Let's set the record straight inside the comic.

First of all,

awesome.

I do not research anyone.

That is not my MO.

I do not have time or interest to try to dig up something on other people.

For the reunion last year, there were a lot of stories in the media circling around Katie, and some of us were sending them to each other because it was overwhelming and crazy.

I did, in fact, send the article about Katie's custody to Emily.

I did nothing more than that, and I would never have brought this up at the reunion.

I actually went up to Katie during the commercial break and said to her, this must have been a very difficult time for you.

I'm sorry you had to go through that.

I never would have brought this up.

Kids and careers are off limits.

Not really sure why Gina chose to include me in her response on the show or make it sound salacious, but it was not.

So, and just to the reminder for me and the audience, what exactly is she addressing in terms of the reunion last year?

The whole custody thing, the whole like,

you had to give your kids to you couldn't like take care of your children.

Emily went in hard of like, you must have done something.

It's very hard for women to lose custody of

living in a car.

And Heather did just what she just told us.

Heather said she did not research anything.

She just sent a letter.

But she did send Emily the thing.

Like whatever Emily chose to do with said article.

One does.

Yes, as one does.

She said, I'm uneducated, but did send.

But I did feel like her and Emily tag teamed that because I remember being upset with Heather during that reunion of like, Heather don't love this.

One of them shared a story about her like chasing down somebody in her car.

And then the other one was about her custody.

So it was like, you're an awful person across the board and we don't want to be associated with you because of these things.

And it just didn't hit because it's like, this wasn't related.

This is actually really dirty what you guys are doing.

And it just made me want to defend Katie because like, ew, how dare you to?

That was Katie.

I talked to a blogger too.

Can you please

digging up records for people's children?

What is, I didn't research, but I sent the link.

That's, that's what I'm saying is that I'm like, Emily had like a full dissertation of like

all of the things that Katie was doing wrong in the process of and like what she should have done.

She's like, I did research.

I have a team.

It's hard for me to believe that like Emily just found out about that information walking out on stage for a review.

She just read a like okay magazine article before walking out.

Emily is a lawyer.

I just don't see Emily like just spewing out random information if it's not like properly sourced.

Right.

Or, you know, or if it's just like some link that she doesn't know where she got it from.

She has too much information on that couch coming at Katie to be like, I just found out about

the lawyer gets a link from Heather and she's like, you know what?

Fuck it.

Let's just go with this.

I don't even know what's in this link.

I'm just going to open it up and start talking.

U.S.

Sun, I trust it as a lawyer.

And I do feel like Heather was upset with Katie last season.

Like, I don't.

Katie.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Pop her out.

She was upset.

The photo of them at the gallery or whatever.

And it was of Emily's phone looking at Katie's Instagram.

Like, they were upset.

Never forget.

Yeah.

Living rent-free in the muttons of the OC housewives.

I forgot about that one.

I kind of hope she doesn't doesn't not come back next season.

Like, I don't know where the season's gonna go.

Yeah, I just really hope that she does come back.

Yeah, me too.

I feel like she's just finding her footing with these women.

But the fact that, just like Monica, just like for all these women to be so rattled by Katie makes me want Katie on more.

Even more.

Yeah.

And I'm like, at the end of the day, I'm like, yeah, she talked to a blogger.

You all do it.

So I don't know why you guys are acting like what she did was the worst thing.

I'm like, the Katie recording Shannon, I can't really defend that one, showing it to to Alexa, but Alexia, what's Alexia?

We'll talk to them.

We will not go to their wedding.

Yeah.

That's it.

I think what it is.

I think that's the thing of like, I think Katie's just like, yeah, I'm friends with the bloggers.

And they're like, you don't actually say that.

That's what it is.

She's breaking the code of like the

like, she's bringing the fourth wall of the fact that her awesome got out there.

Yeah, it was the same thing with Monica.

It was Meredith being like, how dare you?

And it's like, girl, come on.

Lisa Van Palmer.

Lisa Vanner Palmer.

Literally, radar online.

All right.

Well, a lot of more housewives to get into tomorrow when we have Lisa Hoxteen joins us.

But right now, it's time for some Bachelor in Paradise with our friend and fan favorite, Andrew Spencer.

He's up next.

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All right, well, it's time to get into Bachelor in Paradise, and we're going to do so by bringing in our friend Andrew Spencer, who told me yesterday he has a lot to say because last night episode was a little crazy.

Not sure what's going on on the beaches of Paradise, but apparently do not tell anyone your shit.

Keep your business to yourself.

Don't call out anyone.

I was Team Brian.

I don't know if anyone else wasn't.

I agree.

I was Team Brian, but maybe

Andrew has maybe some information for us that we're not privy to.

So let's bring on Andrew to let us know

his point of view.

Oh my God, he's gone.

He quit.

He left.

When you think you have time to do something, he's a vampire.

He's like, fuck this.

I got to go.

There it is.

He needed a bunch of people.

Oh, wait.

Do you want to talk about the Chicago Cubs, Andrew, and the fact that the Brewers are six games ahead of them right now?

Or what's up?

You know what?

Everyone goes on a run every once in a while.

You know, we'll see what happens when it gets to October.

Okay, Nick?

Right, right, right.

Right, right.

All right.

Anyways, we're not here to talk baseball and why the Cubs can't win a pennant race, but we are here to talk about why was everyone chitting on Brian when he was the only one

who did the right thing.

He did the right thing.

It's just like, just to like recap, if Jeremy's big defense was, well, I didn't think it would be that upsetting to Bailey.

Okay, fair enough.

Turns out he was wrong.

It was in fact upsetting to Bailey.

And since that he was wrong and it was in fact upsetting to Bailey, then he doesn't get to be upset with Brian because

he thought it was no big deal.

Because he thought it was no big deal.

Yeah, I think the biggest thing that everyone's not really seeing is how long he knew about this knowledge and why and like the timing in which he brought it up to bailey brian you mean okay

the money and like the competition became a thing oh i think this is a good time for me to tell bayley that doesn't make any sense i think that was um it was in bad it was in bad faith it wasn't in good faith so at that point i mean like brian has never talked to bayley on the beach like never had a you just never saw them have a conversation that's interesting information because brian brian sells it as he i think he said he loves he loves bailey yeah you you'd never see them talk um

in that retrospect i was just like this is this is odd this is not how it's supposed to be uh jeremy and brian they hang out every day like jeremy's on the beach they work out together uh brian's always in jeremy's room like hanging out like you just it was just so odd and like everyone's just starting to focus on their own relationship in a way and he decides to pull this like rabbit out of a hat because because everyone's starting to see like their relationship starting to like, there's like, there's a lot of stuff starting to happen in their relationship.

And

I don't think at all, it's just in my, in my, in my stance, I've always been the person to never be in someone else's.

And I think that's where I had a problem with.

And if you're going to be friends and be around Jeremy all the time, like, at least tell him he needs to go tell her.

Like, hey, I think it's time for you to tell her instead of going behind it.

I definitely agree with you there, right?

Like, he definitely, from, I think most of the audience's point of view, and apparently Wells as well,

like Bailey had the right to know, but he should have definitely told, he should have gone to his boy Jeremy and been like, hey, dude, you got to tell her.

Like she should know.

Like she's going to be upset.

Like there's no good time to deliver bad news.

So just go ahead and deliver the bad news.

And also, like, we don't get to see his ITMs.

Like, we're seeing the same things as you guys are for the first time right now.

First time he told me was right after I had a date with Bailey.

He's like, hey, man, I'm not mad at you.

You know, it's just tough.

Like, I thought we were going to be moving on, me and her, like, like going on strong.

And, you know, I had to call Susie to see if she'd come back.

I was like, bro, really?

You called Susie?

And I'm just like, okay, I get it.

You're mad.

Like, out of spite, like, you want to like, it happens.

People have moments of lapse.

I didn't see his conversation with Susie.

So we don't know how aggressive or how it was portrayed.

In my head, I was just like, I get it.

This dude's, you know, he had a moment of lapse.

Like, he was, he's like a little bit mad that I went on a a date with a girl he like picked over another girl.

That makes sense.

But, like, as we're starting to watch it go on, like, everyone's like, well, why are you guys?

We don't know the extent of the conversations that he's having.

Oh, so now that you've seen it, though, does it change?

Oh, when I see it, it looks bad.

It looks really bad.

Yeah, it looks really bad.

I didn't know he was saying that to Brian.

You know what I mean?

I've never heard him say anything about Susie since that.

But in your head, so in your head, you're thinking he just was like, hey, Susie, like, you know, if you're done, you're still here.

just chilling you know just like no piggy like if you're still around if you're still around you know i mean i would love to give it a shot between us you know

if you would willing be coming back like that's what that's what i'm thinking okay right you know i did not think he was like hey like i i like please tell me you're coming back like i would love to see you come back you get here like i could post you i don't know any of that it was more so than like before the conversation when he's like we gotta call susie someone call susie call susie now where's the phone call susie they're like are you serious and he's like i'm dead serious.

He wasn't living serious.

He was dead serious.

I'm dead.

Yeah.

And like, and my thing is, is also, is like,

he has to know they're going to put that on you.

Like, the eye in the sky doesn't lie.

Like, it's all being filmed.

So, like, everyone's like, well, why didn't you tell Bailey?

Well, what do you mean?

It's all being filmed at this point.

Like, why am I going to focus on someone else's relationship?

I'm trying to build my own.

Yeah.

If it's in the outside world, I understand.

But like.

Playing Brian's advocate, what if he saw Bailey and jeremy start to like really get serious and he's like he still hasn't fucking told her that like he was gonna propose to susie three days ago and like she needs to know before she starts falling more for him like he's not gonna tell her i just gotta get it off my chest my conscience is bad like i gotta tell her that's super valid because i think that's all we were all seeing like their feelings for each other began to get really really strong So in that, I'm just like, oh, well, they smoothed it over.

I don't think it's, he don't, he doesn't think it's a big, big deal.

They're look, they look like a really strong couple right now.

So in our eyes, like,

why would we mess that up?

Like, I don't know what he's told her.

Like, if they hash it out or whatever the case may be, like, that just has nothing to do with me.

I don't want to be a part of it.

So I think Brian took it upon himself to just insert himself in there in a way to try to get Jeremy eliminated.

and Bailey eliminated.

So I don't think it was out of good in good faith.

He's known this for so long about like, you know what I mean?

Like everyone knew it to an extent but we just didn't know how bad it was i think brian knew it worse than anyone else in defense to brian though like shouldn't he get you know i we agree that he should have he should have gone to jeremy he should have said hey you need to tell her okay that aside he jeremy didn't tell her he was supposed to tell her it's like fine he you know i'm gonna tell her i'm gonna tell her and the birds the birds of paradise challenge where he like was like i'll tell you when your mic packs off like it was like it did feel very like sneaky to brian directly that i'm like he got the like the brunt of it where it's like it's on camera of jeremy telling you this and you're still not saying and it's just like and then now you do introduce a half a million dollars and i i don't know like if you're brian you're just like why does this guy potentially get to stick around he's leading this woman on he's telling everyone he's going to tell her i i don't know like it just the way everyone came at him for that just seemed a bit like

I get what you're saying, the timing-wise.

It was just, it was the timing was bad.

I think everything was, really bad because, at the same time, he's dogging his relationship, like him and Parisa are not doing well.

I, and, and what they don't show in the episode is not only do I go at him for going for Jeremy, I'd call him out for the way his tone is and how he's talking to Parisa, but they wouldn't put that on there.

Oh, yeah, well, that's see, that's that's disappointing because, yeah, Brian

was, he was, he was a very aggressive person, and like, I feel like he wasn't involving Parisa in anything, like, they would have these little small arguments, he'd walk away from her.

It was just like certain instances where I was just like, all right, where this is coming from.

Like, one thing you have to focus on your relationship because you guys are not doing well.

They had just lost that challenge and they didn't know anything about each other.

Like, it was awkward.

Like, it was very awkward.

It feels like he's coming out of like left field to try to, you know, make up for something so like he can get to the next round.

So it was weird to me.

I guess, do you have a different opinion?

Obviously, you were there, so you were only like privy to certain information versus watching it back as a viewer watching what the rest of the audience sees do you have a different opinion on just like everything that went down now i do yeah i i think uh

i think

not knowing how harsh uh jeremy was with with his words and you know seeing bailey react the way she did like i also didn't get to see that you know it's heartbreaking i hate to see someone go through that and i wish i had knew more I wish I was told more.

And also, like, it's like the

boy boy in sheep's clothes, like Brian, like, you just think he's lying because he's just like, he doesn't come off as a good guy.

So like for him to tell, even if he's telling the truth, how do you know for sure he's telling the truth if you weren't in that room, that situation?

Well, to that point, what was really weird about Brian is

I had no problem with him telling Bailey because from our point of view, someone's got to tell this girl.

And it's just like, it just feels like ickier and ickier every episode that goes by where she doesn't know.

But then Brian like acted like he lied lied to everyone about just standing on businesses.

He'd just be like, yeah, I told her because none of you fuckers would.

So why, why is that?

He's like, I don't know.

Maybe one of the girls told her.

Why are you critical?

That's what I'm telling you.

It was easy.

It was like, and then like he gets, he gets out of there and he's like, oh, I feel really bad.

Like, it didn't go the way I thought it would go.

Yeah, you just broken up some kind of relationship.

Like, you didn't even think it through.

And then when he's talking to Jeremy, he's like, yeah, Bailey came up to me and she was like, hey, hey, what like brought up Susie and asked like if there was anything that she would watch back on, he had this whole drawn-out story.

He goes, yeah, I was talking to Bailey

about Prisa.

Of course.

Bailey asked me about Susie and so what?

None of that happened.

But like, just tell the truth, Brian.

I don't know.

That part, he lost me.

Yeah, because it was so awkward when he came back to the group and it was like, how long did it take for everybody to actually figure out that he did tell her?

because it was just like all of these side conversations of like maybe he did then you have dale believing him that he didn't talk to her about it it seemed like the next day was when everybody figured out that like for a fact brian told her it was so weird because jeremy and brian were close that's why it's like

and i didn't know that they had those conversations about him like staying like That was weird to me.

I'm like seeing this for the first time.

I'm like, oh, wow, I didn't know Jeremy talked to him that way.

Like, those are things that are new.

And obviously, Jeremy's personality, he's like very dark humor.

He's got like dry, but funny humor.

So a lot of things might be taken out of context in a way because that's just the way he is.

He's not like being serious for a lot of things he says.

But like, and like same thing, like everyone was just more, more closer to Jeremy.

And we just, we're just like, man, you just need to tell her that's on you.

Like, you're a grown man.

You're like, you're 30.

There should be no sneak rounds.

going on right now omitting the truth is worse than lying almost sometimes so like what was your opinion on obviously like oh there was a lot of like guy code guy code he should have gone to jeremy first that's guy code what is your opinion on your girl alex who knew about this was the first person to check on bayley but still like defended her reasoning for not coming to bayley and being like hey i gotta tell you um

It's, it's a tough situation.

Alex was friends with Jeremy way before the show even started.

And she told him multiple times, like, hey, you need to tell her.

And, you know, at that point, like,

it's a tough situation like she had just became friends with bailey just there on the show like they weren't friends before um

but she like they grew a really good friendship at that point and you know i know she she's taking it pretty hard uh i i like it's it's not an easy thing to be you know to be in like it's that's very tough situation to be in um not that having that information i mean just like why

i think when people watching it were just like just yeah like make if you're that close of friends with Jeremy.

Jeremy.

Jeremy.

Is it?

Jeremy.

It just sounds like you're saying Jeremy.

Yeah, his little Midwestern accent.

Anyways, if you're that close with Jay,

yeah, you'd just be like, no, go tell her now.

Like, the whole thing,

if you don't tell her, I'm going to.

This, like, I agree with that.

You know,

I agree with that, but at the same time, it goes back to you, we don't know all that was said.

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

Like, yeah, but you're just like, did you tell her yesterday?

I didn't know if you had a phone call.

And like, to me, it's not a huge deal like oh i called susie that's i don't know how the phone call went and like seeing it back i'm like oh you needed to tell her right then and there just how that phone call and that's fair because obviously brian was the only one who heard him say like if susie came back i'd propose to her right now no one else exactly say that so that's the only person that heard it in that type of uh malicious way you know what i mean so we all heard it just like oh i just gave her a call and we were still like oh you should just tell her it's not a big deal like tell her And we didn't know how deep it was.

And it was obviously very deep.

One thing that troubled me the whole episode was, why the fuck was Jeremy sleeping the whole time?

Like, what is, why, is that editing?

Why is he editing?

That was so random.

I don't know why he went to sleep.

Nobody knows why he went to sleep.

It was very, very random.

I think.

Even Alex was going to go tell him to tell Bailey, but he was sleeping before.

So it was like, everyone knew like something was brewing.

It was weird, like Brian was pacing around, it was just very eerie that day.

It was such a weird time.

Knowing what you know now about how,

regardless of how Brian moved, but how Jeremy moved, would you feel comfortable with Jeremy dating your best friend's sister or your sister or like a woman that you cared about?

How would you feel about Jeremy dating her and how he communicates important things?

Um, what I mean, I'm gonna give grace to everyone.

I think, I think this was really bad for him.

Like, it's a bad spot.

But I think that everyone deserves to, you know, it's a learning moment.

At this point, you can't, you just got to move on and you got to do better.

Obviously, from that,

you know, those clips, I wouldn't be the happiest about it.

But, you know, if someone, if two people love each other and, you know, they really want to make something work,

it's not my decision to tell them that you can't.

You know what I mean?

I just, I would just hope that he's a better man for it and he's learned and he's going to change his perspective on how he communicates.

What was your opinion on

when Bailey got the rendezvous message from Brian?

And Parisa's like, who was it?

Like, can you just tell me who it was?

Was it Brian?

And she refuses to tell Parisa who it was.

And that's the same thing.

Like, she didn't want to tell Parisa the same reason we didn't want to tell Bailey.

You know what I mean?

So like, that's true.

Literally the same, he has a begging for her to do.

It's the same thing.

That's what I'm saying.

It's like, you just don't want to create drama.

You don't want to be a part of it.

Like, for Alex, does not want to be a part of drama.

Like, that is just like how we operate.

And also, I told her multiple times, like, it's just not our, it's not our place.

Like,

but why is that?

I mean, speaking, this is reality TV, Andrew.

Why is the collective group have this like unspoken rule, which is basically like, mind your business.

I don't want to have a bad, like, is it because everyone's afraid of a bad edit or everyone's afraid of looking bad that there's like this kind of like cast code?

Honestly, like, I think my relationship, I was just, I was so like locked in.

Like, we were just like, we were just all just hanging out with our person.

Like, it was just, it was so nice.

Like, the beach was smooth.

Like, everyone was having a good time.

And, like, I'm even watching this back and I didn't even know half the things in Dale and Pat was going on because in my eyes, I thought they were super solid.

So, I'm like watching everything.

Like, Priest and Brian, I thought they were good for a moment until like this week, right before this week.

I was like, what is that?

What is actually going on here?

So, like, it was very weird for me seeing it back that all these people were, you know, having all these issues and problems.

And I think the people aren't being shown is we're just, we were vibing.

We were having a good time.

Like, is we were like on vacation almost and just actually just trying to fall in love.

I think that's what it was.

That's where I was staying.

That's where I was trying to fall in love.

Did you vote for Brian to go home?

I didn't.

I was also, I didn't.

That's because I had, me and Brian had a heart to heart.

I was like, man, you're focusing on the wrong things.

You need to focus on your girl.

She's right here.

Like, you guys have a good thing going.

Like, this is the only thing that matters.

And I was like, and then also Alex Alex was like, hey, I don't, I want to have integrity with this thing.

I don't want to vote people out because of, you know, this, this, or that.

Like, I believe that Brian and Priest have a good relationship stronger than what the Goldens had.

And I was like, all right, if that's how we're going to vote, then I'm voting what you want to vote.

Like, she led team captain on that one.

In the preview for the next, I don't know if it's next episode or like the next coming episodes.

It seems like people get a little irritated with Sean.

What's your take on Sean?

I mean, I'm telling you guys, that is that is where shit goes.

Wow.

It's the most insane.

Sean, Sean

might be

the greatest Bachelor in Paradise villain of.

Oh, my God.

Whoa.

Are you friends with Sean?

Because it was unexpected.

It was unexpected.

I didn't see.

I didn't fuck with him.

Do you fuck with Sean?

I don't have a problem with Sean.

Like, I don't have a problem with anyone.

That's the thing.

You don't have a problem with anyone, but do you fuck with Sean?

Would you invite him to Chicago for like a guy's weekend to stay at your place?

I wouldn't invite him, but if he's in Chicago, I would hang out with him.

Like, if we're in the same, like, I wouldn't have a problem like hanging out with him.

If he reached out to you and said, I'm here, you would meet him for a beer.

Oh, yeah.

I'll grab a beer or whatever the case.

I wouldn't like shun him.

No,

like the first time I met him was a couple seasons ago.

He, or a couple of years ago, it was

Nate's birthday, and it was me, Rodney.

It was a bunch of black people.

And Sean, tall Nate?

No, Sean looks super like fratty and like white guy.

It was hilarious.

Sean's like the waspiest white guy ever.

Yeah.

Oh, no, like textbook, like white guy.

Like, that's him.

But no, he was, he was chill.

Uh, but like, him on the season compared to that is like night and day.

So did he pronounce Alicia's name wrong when giving her the rose, or is it pronounced Alicia?

It's Alicia, I think.

It is Alicia.

She looks like someone who would go, no, it's Alicia.

It's kind of giving Bill Dasha.

No, I think she's like, she's, yeah, she's mixed race.

I think she, she's, I forget what it is, but yeah, she's got some.

Andrew, how are your, how is your French coming along?

Um, are we still taking lessons?

It's uh, it's not good, but um, I mean, you're a work in progress.

I like to practice all types of languages.

Um, I just don't think I'm retaining it as well as I should.

Was the game, the challenge, whatever that was, Jesse explaining the rules, was it as confusing as it was for us to watch it?

Because it felt very much like him trying to explain a card game that he made up with his friends.

When Jesse's explaining the rules, I'm just like, any of this.

Just let's just play the game.

Let me just be a test run.

Let's just play around.

I don't know what the fuck's going on.

I still don't know what was going on.

Yeah, it was.

No, it wasn't bad.

Like, you're just like, you write down the answers, and if you match with someone,

there was like A, B, and C.

So sometimes.

But what was the point of the whole circular thing?

With head, it just seemed couldn't we just do that all at the pool?

Like, I just

like a lot of us went into the circle, like, you don't see like there was like you had, like, I had like five matches, and I went in to see if I wanted to do a separate rendezvous.

And I just was like, ah, no, I'm good.

But, knowing you guys, you guys are all afraid of looking like villains.

Everyone's like, no, I don't want to rendezvous at this point.

Oh, fuck that.

No, like, no, I just, I don't think, well, I, I, I'm not even kidding you.

I did, I

wasn't really interested in many other people besides bailey and alex you know what i mean like and most more than anything i was more interested in alex i just didn't know she was interested in me but um yeah that was just kind of like how it went how sad were you that you couldn't do this experience with justin i think i wouldn't have found someone

at the time if justin was there because i feel like we'd be growing out a little bit more and you know just trying to hang out and i'm trying to you know make sure he's all right with susie and everything so you guys kind of cockblock each other you say Would that say, yeah, in a way, I just feel like you would have just been like, you'd have been more like go with what comfortable was comfortable.

Like, no one, I wasn't friends with anyone there, calling each other's dicks, just goofing around like boys.

I ran into Dale at events like a couple times, but we weren't like friends, friends, you know.

So, um, I just had to like, I just literally hung out with Alex and we just came close.

Speaking of Dale, when he, when Dale thinks you did something wrong, he really has a way of like,

so I just know someone with like good character wouldn't do something like that, but hey, like, you know, you do you.

Like, he has a like,

I kind of love it.

It was kind of an art.

It's real, it's real like judgy.

No, Dale, Dale has like a like a, Dale reminds me of Homelander a little bit.

Like, he has this like superhero presence to him.

He wants to do great things, and then boom, you're like, oh, whoa, where'd that come from, Dale?

And like, you get surprised by like some of the things that happened.

But you'll see

Dale becomes Homelander at some point.

Have you, did you talk to Jeremy at all while he was in Portugal visiting Bailey?

Yeah,

I talked to Jeremy recently.

And I was just like, you know, I like send him some of the things people say to him, just to like break it up, make him laugh a little bit.

Like, hey, listen, just laugh at the pain.

At the end of the day, it's going to pass.

Yeah, I saw that he was up in people's comments, arguing with them in the comments.

I mean, I wouldn't do all that.

For a cool cucumber,

he's pretty rattled.

He's arguing with fans.

Yeah, I mean, it's such a tough thing to navigate.

Especially if you're new to it, obviously, you know, being in this for five years, like you've had as much hate mail as you could possibly have.

You understand, like, you're never going to win.

What made you want to dabble back in?

I was single at the time, and I was just like, this is perfect timing.

This is like my last go.

If I'm, uh, if there's ever going to be an opportunity, I don't know how long this show is going to keep running.

Um, it's just like stars kind of aligned for me.

And I was just like, let's do it.

Could you, could, could Angela be with Alex right now?

That'd be great.

Do you have a girlfriend?

Could I?

Are you alive?

Alex right now?

Yeah.

Am I in love?

This is crazy.

What are we doing here?

You know,

I'm allowed to ask.

Hey, I possibly could.

Possibly could.

I've never met Alex in person.

Maybe you can introduce us at a wedding or something.

Do you?

There's a double meeting in there somewhere.

There was a little bit of that.

Do you remember the last time we saw you in person?

Yeah, at the Hulu event.

Yeah, when you scared River.

Oh, I know.

Baby River.

I'm sorry.

But I was super excited.

I was like, oh, my God.

You screamed.

You were like, ah!

And she was like startled with you screaming in her face and started crying.

But then y'all made up.

I was just, I just haven't seen her.

I don't think that was, I think that was the first time I've seen her in person.

It was.

So I was just like, super excited, you know, to take the Instagram pictures and put them in person.

It's just a very exciting feeling.

No, I know.

We're excited for you and Alex to have a baby soon.

You guys are really pushing the envelope here.

I love that.

Maybe we'll see a little bit more love story from us

on the show.

Yeah, we'd love to see it play out.

We're kind of background people, unless it's about me talking about broken.

I mean, that is a really nice apartment you have.

Does a half a million dollars go a long way or what's up?

Half a million.

Oh, because you want to watch that article.

that is like exposed beams and like

and yeah, this nice exposed brick in here.

That is great.

Oh, wow.

That is a nice play.

Yeah.

I do all right.

I got, you know, I got a vision a little bit.

This is my favorite painting.

Gorgeous.

Anything else while you're here, Andrew?

I know you have to get going that you want to share, talk about, unpack.

You said you were ready to talk to me.

Yeah, dude.

Like, what the thing that you texted me yesterday, did we get that out?

Is that what we did we talk about?

Whatever that you wanted to do.

I mean, I think think the way your questions went it just kind of like it kind of like switched it so i was just like oh well you guys made me feel more calm about like just the way you answered those questions i was just like okay because i was i was heated yesterday oh my god i was like watching it back i'm like this is not how the tonality of it like the conversation that went with me and brian and uh spencer i was just like and like the fact that they got me saying bro code i like hate myself for that because yeah it's like a bro code in a way it's just it's more so like a an honor thing like you can't go behind some some other man's back who you who you spend a lot of time with you hang out with and then like do that to him.

I just think that was just kind of shallow.

He should have told he should have he should have told Jeremy to deal with his shit.

That's well Jeremy was sleeping, so no talk to Jeremy.

Yeah, that's true.

No, but I mean like he had ample amount of time to tell Jeremy that like, hey, you should do this.

I just felt like it was just out of place and it was

it was random.

He felt like it calculated, maybe.

He also has a very short fuse with Parisa.

Yes.

And no one talks about that, but hey, I call him out for it.

And no one, no one, I guess.

Was it as bad, not as bad, or worse

in real time?

The way he talked to Parisa.

It was as bad, 1000%.

Like, as bad, for sure.

Yeah.

Okay.

That's ours.

All right.

Andrew, it's always good talking to you, buddy.

Thanks for coming, man.

Yeah, always.

Thank you guys for having me.

Yeah, it was a pleasure.

You're always happy to be had.

Well, I'll be here next.

I'll be in LA next week.

Oh, let's hit up Jones, huh?

Ever since you took me there, man, it's like my favorite place.

Well, if there's a lot of drama next week and you want to come in into the studio and unpack it, just let us know.

Hey, if there is, for sure.

I'll do it.

I'm down.

All right, pop off.

Back-to-back episodes.

All right, Andrew.

Always good to be with you, man.

Do you want to plug anything?

Oh, no.

I'm all good.

Plugged out.

I'm all good.

Go follow Greg Grippo on Instagram and TikTok.

Wow.

Watch Bachelor in Paradise on Monday nights.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I don't think it's gonna come well for me.

So maybe the following Monday watch.

All right, bro.

All right, Andrew.

Have a good day.

All right, buddy.

Talk to you later.

Bye.

Anything else we want to unpack on Bachelor in Paradise?

No, I'm just, I'm really enjoying this.

As this, every episode that comes out, I really am enjoying it more and more.

i was just like all of the drama all all the episode it was just so good there is so much b-roll still to i mean like nick and i are fast forwarding through the b-roll yeah yeah okay we get waves are crashing you did get you have one golden couple left so that's less fast forwarding for you yeah we've got keith and kathy again it's just i we get the platitudes it's never too late I understand.

It's kind of sad, though, that they were like, let's send Kim home.

He's over here with his like EGC or whatever like machine.

Go home, dude.

Go home.

No, he's fighting through it.

Get him.

Why send him home?

He's like, I got this.

I got this thing, this mobile thing.

I can walk around.

We can do challenges.

It's monitoring my heart.

Everything's good.

But they're like,

we'll just send him home because he's got that thing.

But on our watch, you don't need him, the captain dying, with like 95% humidity down there.

But they didn't send him home because of that.

They kept going like, the Golden's connections aren't that strong.

And they're over here like making out in every corner.

Also, humidity, a lot of the times with people, like the reason older people move to Florida is like the humidity, like the air quality when you're lower to sea level is like better and it's easier to breathe.

Like, if you have like

breathing problems, okay.

So, we should have kept Kim down there.

Yeah.

If anything, it's dangerous to send him away.

Yeah, we've become aegis watching Bachelor in Paradise.

I think it's a privilege.

I could never, yeah, I think it's so cute.

Yeah, I want to get old.

It's going to be awesome.

Yeah, it's just because it's, there's no drama.

Yeah.

And then we've got Brian and Parisa, where it's just like, are they a real couple?

Are they not?

I don't know.

Parisa's in a real relationship.

Brian's like, fuck you again.

The only time he showed Parisa like any sort of PDA is when he felt like he was isolated from the rest of the group and all he had was Parisa.

I know I felt so bad for her when she was like, look at these challenges just bringing us closer.

And I was like, he's.

using you right now.

He has no one else.

For a ticket to stay and no one else is coming.

Just think about all the women in real life and relationships like that.

My heart breaks.

There's a lot.

I know.

Well, we talk to them often every Monday on Ask Nick.

Yeah, you do.

And just so you know that if you love a good relationship story and you like some sage advice every Monday, Ask Nick episodes are streaming.

They're popping and they're full of fun, great stories.

Better advice.

You can also join the show if you have a question, if you have a problem, whether it's a parent-child relationship dynamic, whether you are still dating a fuckboy that you just can't get him to commit, email us at asknick at the vilefiles.com, join the show, all that fun stuff.

Nick gives really good advice, you guys.

Thank you, Mary.

Yeah,

definitely.

Well, I think that will wrap up this episode.

We will see you tomorrow.

Don't forget, we do have a bonus reality recap episode for you tomorrow.

Do not miss out on it.

Ryan joins us tomorrow with Freddie and Lisa.

It's a jam-packed episode tomorrow.

And then on Thursday, we have Sandy from Perfect Match in studio.

She returns and she is coming in hot.

Wasn't it kind of crazy that Louis was the only guy who told the truth?

Yep.

But even then, none of these men were coming.

If AD wasn't there, none of these men would have come forward with anything.

That was a pact to the end.

All right, well, we'll get into a lot of Perfect Match tomorrow.

We'll see you then.

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