E977 - Perfect Match w/ Rachel Recchia, BIP w/ Bailey, Miguel & Louis Drama, Valley Casting, RHOC and RHOM

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Speaker 2 What's going on, everybody? Welcome back to another exciting episode of the Vile Files Reality Recap Edition. I'm your host, Nick.
My wife is back. She's alive.
She's doing well.

Speaker 2 My gosh, it was

Speaker 2 touch and go.

Speaker 2 I thought she wasn't going to make it.

Speaker 7 I honestly, I wish I could have been that bitch.

Speaker 10 I wish I could have been that influencer that in the midst, grabbed my phone, put it on a tripod.

Speaker 14 Press record.

Speaker 2 The way I was sleeping on the bathroom floor on a towel, wrapped in a robe with a bowl, puking.

Speaker 11 It was just the worst night of my entire life.

Speaker 2 And I wish I could have had it on a recording to show you all. Like Big Brother.
Because you're like a baddie. Oh my God.
No. Was it like a bad thing?

Speaker 19 So that I could have done like a two-time speed, a story post and been like, my weekend.

Speaker 2 And like, you know. But like from a virus.
From the stomach flu.

Speaker 21 I do have a question.

Speaker 22 The bowl that you throw up in, is that the same bowl that you use to like eat popcorn out of?

Speaker 2 Oh, it actually. I made kale salad in it two days later.

Speaker 2 You did? I mean, like, I don't, is that? It's called soap. Yeah.
Like, I don't.

Speaker 2 Do you throw it? First of all, it's, it's metal, not plastic. So there's no, like, there's no

Speaker 2 pain getting into like micro plastics or anything like that. Like it's stainless steel.
I'm not judging.

Speaker 22 I'm just saying it's like there is a very specific throw-up bowl that you also use to eat popcorn.

Speaker 2 Well, we haven't thrown up like that in a long time. So we haven't necessitated.
I was going to say, am I a trash human that I don't know? Don't have a throw-up bowl that I just go to the bathroom?

Speaker 2 No, no, no.

Speaker 11 Definitely. The toilet

Speaker 11 by one shrew.

Speaker 2 I love the toilet.

Speaker 11 And then, like, honestly, the toilet can help in a lot of ways.

Speaker 9 You know, like, you know, you can just keep moving along but i was throwing up so much that i was also so tired and the bedroom is was such a far walk like the bed was such a far walk

Speaker 2 the toilet that i was like i just can't i just gotta i gotta let's play a game called am i an asshole now i want to preface this game am i an asshole by reminding you all that i had the same stonic flu days earlier This is just like, I don't think we should play.

Speaker 2 It's just not any news no matter what. Well, I'm the asshole.
Okay.

Speaker 2 Like Natalie's fine.

Speaker 13 And shocking news.

Speaker 2 Go ahead. Well, I don't think I am.
I'm just wondering. We'll see.
Just for

Speaker 2 almost certainly.

Speaker 2 I just want to remind you guys, I had the stumming flu days before, and when I was puking, crying, screaming, throwing up, Natalie

Speaker 2 didn't wake up at all. Had a nice night of sleep, which I was happy to have her have because my wife needs her sleep.

Speaker 9 He was just so light on his feet in the middle of the night when he got up to throw up.

Speaker 2 I just didn't hear a pin. When Natalie had the flu,

Speaker 2 she was down bad. And I got up a few times when I saw her like wake up and Rivers sleeping and I'm, you know, rubbing her back.
And then I'd bring her back to the bed.

Speaker 2 And then there was a point in the evening, like three in the morning, and Natalie is just lying on the bathroom floor. And I'm like, I think, let's go back to the bed.
Just leave me. Just leave me.

Speaker 2 Just leave me. So I left her.
You're not the asshole.

Speaker 2 And I wrapped the blanket on the towel. The towel.
I put another bathroom towel, and I'm like, all right, well,

Speaker 2 maybe it's actually sweet, but maybe

Speaker 2 that I left her on the bathroom floor.

Speaker 14 Respect our wishes

Speaker 14 when we're in such a vulnerable state. Get out of here.

Speaker 2 There was a part of Natalie that definitely wanted me to sit down and caress her back and stay with her all night.

Speaker 26 Oh, if he wanted to lay down with me on that bathroom floor,

Speaker 2 she absolutely would.

Speaker 8 I would have welcomed with open arms.

Speaker 11 I would feel like, I don't want to walk back to the bed and then have to get back up and walk.

Speaker 28 You know, like, I don't want to do that.

Speaker 2 I definitely looked at her on the head. I'm like, all right, well.
You're doing great, Stevie.

Speaker 2 So I'm okay. Yeah,

Speaker 13 maybe you being awoken as karma for giving your beautiful wife the stomach flu.

Speaker 16 You did give me the stomach flu.

Speaker 2 Oh, I think I did. Yeah.
I don't know where I got it.

Speaker 14 You know, blaming doesn't help anything.

Speaker 2 Your bone doesn't make your bone healthy.

Speaker 2 We did survive.

Speaker 15 We're on the other side.

Speaker 2 We survived. And we do have a great episode live

Speaker 2 today. Yeah, the bum is no longer there.

Speaker 2 Rachel Recchia, your former bachelorete and new star of the perfect match streaming now on Netflix is with us to give us a little inside baseball to what the fuck was she and Clayton thinking when they decided to reunite their romance for a night until Clayton his instincts kicked in his intuition

Speaker 2 yeah that intuition his intuition kicked in we also have Bailey Brown from Bachelor in Paradise with us to talk about her thoughts on uh Jeremy and his uh his reluctance to speak truth to Bailey and how is she feeling about being blindsided by lies from Jeremy?

Speaker 2 Uh, so we got uh hopefully two very upset women joining us later this episode. Not hopefully.
With any luck.

Speaker 13 Hey, gotta make money somehow.

Speaker 2 You know, get some tears. Is the tissue box?

Speaker 29 Hopefully they've both moved on to better.

Speaker 2 I want to move on after they come on the show. I hope this is their opportunity to like just like let out all the demons.

Speaker 2 Clayton is supposed to join us on Thursday's episode of Reality Recap and supposed to. We'll see.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 I think he has a different version of how things went down on Perfect Match.

Speaker 2 And I can't wait to hear him.

Speaker 19 As anyone does with a bad edit, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 13 Bad edits.

Speaker 2 Bad edits. Bad edits.

Speaker 14 Speaking of releasing demons, I don't know if you saw Miguel's Instagram stories over the weekend.

Speaker 14 The girlies have unfollowed Louie after

Speaker 2 who's also on Perfect Match.

Speaker 14 Who's also on Perfect Match was spotted out in London with Hudda.

Speaker 2 Huda's in London.

Speaker 14 Hudda went out in London and they were like spotted together.

Speaker 18 I think she's back now. This was,

Speaker 6 yeah, this was like a couple, this was like a week or two ago.

Speaker 2 Anyways, why does Miguel care is my question?

Speaker 14 Well, Miguel and Louis are best friends from London. I'm assuming that they must have applied for these shows at the same time, thinking it was just going to be like a fun hee-hee-ha-ha.

Speaker 14 Obviously, Miguel has met the love of his life. I think Louis moved out here for Perfect Match, and they were roommates for a minute.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty positive.

Speaker 2 A couple of London mates trying to make it on TV. Amen.

Speaker 2 Roommates.

Speaker 14 During the season,

Speaker 14 or right after the season, people noticed that Leah and Janae and Serena had unfollowed Louie.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 of Love Island USA?

Speaker 14 Of Love Island USA season six.

Speaker 2 Mid-season?

Speaker 14 Unfollowed towards the end of the season, unfollowed Louie, which was like weird.

Speaker 2 Mid-season?

Speaker 30 What are you talking about? Mid-season? I misspoke.

Speaker 14 So then I corrected myself, but he caught on to my misspoke. I am not.

Speaker 2 I'm paying attention to Sierra.

Speaker 2 Paying attention to who the PPP PPPG is following during Love Island season.

Speaker 13 He's lying. He has his notifications on.

Speaker 2 So people started to notice

Speaker 2 the unfollowing of Louie.

Speaker 14 And then Miguel posted a comment because everybody thought that the PPG unfollowed him based off of HUDA.

Speaker 14 He said, if you know me, you know I'm someone who's very private. If I have a problem, I deal with it personally.

Speaker 14 However, the more I dive into this world, the more I see some people have different takes on that and perspectives can get corrupted.

Speaker 14 People I called my friends friends feeling as though they have the right to talk on my relationship so negatively in such a public manner with no regard for how this might affect my girl's mental what did Louis say?

Speaker 14 I'm gonna look it up after I finish. Making assumptions without first understanding reasons behind certain actions and using that to let people drag her name and drag my relationship is disgusting.

Speaker 14 I'm beyond disappointed, I'm beyond upset, and I honestly want no part in any of it.

Speaker 14 It feels ridiculous I'm even writing this message, but this is the world I'm in and everyone seems to need an explanation, so here it is.

Speaker 14 The people you thought I was close to, please remove that idea from your mind because it's clear to me now we're walking two different paths.

Speaker 14 And to shed light on a certain topic, Leah and the girls didn't unfollow Louie because he was dating Hudda.

Speaker 14 They did it because, as women, the reasoning behind why he was dating her didn't sit right with them. Whether or not they are truly falling for each other at this point, I couldn't care less.

Speaker 14 I wish them nothing but peace, but my road is my own, and I would prefer if my name and my girl's name no longer crossed with their world.

Speaker 14 So I think the speaking negatively was that people obviously noticed the Louis thing, and I guess Louie must have spoken out. Hudda was like, well, what the fuck?

Speaker 2 Why?

Speaker 26 You know? Uh-huh.

Speaker 31 You know, she had some questions after that went public.

Speaker 14 And I guess I said, I don't want to speak on her character or whatever, but I'm also like, I'm sure that there wasn't a.

Speaker 14 It didn't hurt the fact that it's like the people from season six being related to Miguel and her being with Louie.

Speaker 14 Like, I feel like she probably thought that this was going to be like a Love Island family.

Speaker 2 Why isn't it? Like, why don't do the girlies not follow Huda?

Speaker 21 Leah does follow Huda.

Speaker 14 Leah does. Okay.
So Leah follows Huda, but yeah, I think it's the Louie of it all and the fact that

Speaker 2 you're right.

Speaker 22 Never mind. So Leah does not follow Huda.

Speaker 28 I think so clearly Louie might have said some things that maybe made Miguel and even, you know, PPG think one thing.

Speaker 14 And then now the fact that he's dating Huda, they're like, that doesn't align with like whatever the fuck you said to us.

Speaker 20 Whatever, like they clearly are uncomfortable.

Speaker 11 with the fact that he's now dating Huda based on previous actions or previous words that he said.

Speaker 2 My big takeaway is like, because if we all quit on Beyond the Villa, like, is anyone still? Are you one still one?

Speaker 14 I'm one episode behind. I haven't seen the new episode.

Speaker 2 I love it. Is there any of this drama? And by any of this, like,

Speaker 2 obviously, Kenny and Janae wouldn't be on it, but like, is there any like real?

Speaker 13 No. Is it just still a little bit of a drink?

Speaker 2 It's just like fun, friendly.

Speaker 14 Because like Olivia and Kayla have, like, made up.

Speaker 2 But it's Connor and Janae.

Speaker 14 Connor and Janae haven't gotten there yet, but like, yeah, it's.

Speaker 2 they haven't even gotten there. They haven't

Speaker 14 squashed. But I'm like, I'm watching Aaron and Connor go surfing and talk about the birthday party.

Speaker 2 Silly fun. Yes, silly fun.
This is why, like, why, why this usually doesn't translate into successful TV shows. Like, ultimately, the stars of Love Island have become internet stars, right?

Speaker 2 Fans are now following them on their social media, things like that.

Speaker 2 That's why it makes the women of the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives so awesome and dynamic because most of the time, these like platforms, Hulu, whatever Netflix, who are trying to follow these internet stars and say, let's make a TV show out of them, like they don't work because they, again, they're so brand conscious.

Speaker 2 They're so like, they're so like editing themselves. They, they don't want the drama, but they want the like the attention.
And the women of Secret Lives are out there just like, it doesn't stop.

Speaker 2 If the cameras are up, they're just living their lives. And they may be dramatic online.
They're also dramatic

Speaker 2 when they're filming a TV show. They don't change course, right? Like, this is like, this would be an, you, if this was a TV show, the shit that's going, like, yeah, that Miguel's posting.

Speaker 2 Could y'all imagine if we had footage of like Louis at, like sitting on Miguel and his couch, like, talking about talking about all this post, yeah,

Speaker 2 like it would be that would be like, oh my God, we'd be just be, this would be amazing, but they don't want to do it. They can't, like, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 Like, and that's what makes those women of the Secret Lives just so amazing TV makers and professionals because they don't stop being authentic.

Speaker 2 They don't start editing themselves as soon as like they get mic'd up and put cameras on. Like they're just as authentic and genuine.

Speaker 2 And that's why they're one of a kind, you know, because you can't get this. This is, this is the TV we want to see.

Speaker 2 And we're getting like, you know, fake fights and surfing scenes and things like that. And then they're going on their IG stories with the real TV that's not being filmed.

Speaker 27 It is hard to like watch their social media and see what's going on online.

Speaker 26 And then like, oh, new episode, tune in.

Speaker 6 And it's like,

Speaker 7 so fucking cutter.

Speaker 2 And you're just like, oh, meanwhile, they're on Instagram stories being like, we don't follow this person. And it's like, you know, even, even on Instagram stories, it does feel a little silly.

Speaker 20 Like,

Speaker 20 I need

Speaker 36 a good one-liner from Leah on the show.

Speaker 11 And I feel like we haven't gotten that.

Speaker 37 Like, you can't. Cloud demon.

Speaker 2 Cloud demon.

Speaker 14 Like, where is that?

Speaker 13 I need a direct-to-camera holding the phone up and going, unfollow.

Speaker 2 You know what I mean? Yeah. Like a whole roundtable discussion of like when all the women got together on season six and they voted off Andrea.
Was it? Was it Andrea?

Speaker 2 And we all like, like, what was the the conversation that made them like vote? I want that in terms of them unfollowing Louie. And I want, I want all the tea and why he is also a clout demon.

Speaker 22 Right.

Speaker 22 We don't know. That could all be in season two.

Speaker 14 They maybe, I doubt it.

Speaker 11 Maybe, but I feel like by then it's so old.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 14 I mean, they did a red carpet. They were at the premiere for of weapons on Friday.

Speaker 2 And I mean, there's an amazing show

Speaker 2 and Louie.

Speaker 22 My take is that Beyond the Villa should be live and edited the exact same way as Love Love Island.

Speaker 41 Yeah.

Speaker 11 Yeah.

Speaker 2 That's so much.

Speaker 2 That would be epic.

Speaker 21 That's how they got to do it.

Speaker 14 I don't know if you were watching Watch What Happens live, but Kim Zolsiak was asked about Ariana's money and spending it.

Speaker 2 Her daughter. The daughter.
Not to be confused with Maddox.

Speaker 14 Kim is

Speaker 14 spending her daughter's money.

Speaker 14 The rug was pulled out from the Zolsiaks. Ariana's money was spent on bills, to be honest.
I was left holding the bag for the family.

Speaker 14 I was left with nothing, so I had to figure out fast the money i borrowed from ariana i paid her back for the bills and stuff solsiak promised that while she doesn't have the spreadsheets ariana will be reimbursed wait so i has paid her back

Speaker 2 uh she doesn't have the spreadsheets she was a bit tardy for the party in terms of paying her daughter back and was uh daughter was in the crowd the daughter was in the crowd on a split screen and she was just staring very stoic look very much gave like we'll be having a conversation after this yes of like mom you're lying

Speaker 42 i actually do have a couple spreadsheets i've sent them to you every month for you to review yeah i'm like it's so sad but i'm glad that like at least ariana's back on top i just i don't know what's gonna happen with the fam and then asking about brielle the older daughter being like well did she have to and she's like she paid uh an electric bill you know every now and again to see it was just for your children the reason ariana is so incredible in next gen is because it is so obvious that she did raise herself oh yeah yeah She survived.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 13 She survived. And she, that girl, she's a survivor and she has it.
And by it, I mean factor, the it factor.

Speaker 2 Yeah. She does.

Speaker 32 Not the pause.

Speaker 2 Speaking of it factors, Jax, did you notice his reunion look? Oh my God.

Speaker 11 I mean, I feel like they've called him out for this so many more times, but this one.

Speaker 14 is crazy. It kind of brings me a little bit of joy because why would you need to wear lifts and sneakers for a show that's being filmed while you're sitting down?

Speaker 9 Because you know they're taking a group photo after, and he's like, oh, in that group photo, I better be like the tallest.

Speaker 14 Babe, I just couldn't.

Speaker 13 He's dead and one of his feet.

Speaker 2 His height on the internet says six foot.

Speaker 6 Isn't he?

Speaker 14 So you know what that means.

Speaker 2 5'10. 5'10.
I haven't seen Jax

Speaker 2 in person in maybe a decade, but I mean, have you seen the photo of the lifts? I have.

Speaker 14 That's a wedge.

Speaker 2 That ain't a lift.

Speaker 2 No, his ankles buffed it.

Speaker 14 He said, I thought wedges were back.

Speaker 2 Do you think his calves were sore afterwards? Literally.

Speaker 14 He's probably just trying to adjust every single time. They're like, break.
They're like, he's like, okay.

Speaker 2 Stretch off his legs. It's crazy.
Well, he'll be gone.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 14 And I couldn't be happier.

Speaker 11 But then there was rumors of Tom Sandoval

Speaker 9 and Victoria, which it's like, there's got to be more Bravo men.

Speaker 27 No, there's got to be different Bravo men.

Speaker 28 There's got to be someone else in the universe who we can get.

Speaker 2 But I don't think Bravo is going to change. And I think we just have to be realistic that Bravo isn't going to.

Speaker 11 They're just going to continue to platform Toxic Men.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Yeah.
And their original cast because the U.S.

Speaker 14 Sun has reported that Sheena Shea is a done deal to join the Valley cast after exposing husband Brock Davies' cheating past.

Speaker 2 That's a wild headline.

Speaker 14 That is the headline.

Speaker 25 You do what you got to do for your family.

Speaker 14 But we will have Sheena back for season three, full-time cast member.

Speaker 13 The Sisyphysian effort of Sheena Shea.

Speaker 14 It's good as gold, baby.

Speaker 13 It is good as gold.

Speaker 45 Do you feel like...

Speaker 2 I would rather not talk. I mean, like, we're just...
Well, but like we said last week,

Speaker 2 she's going to be on the show.

Speaker 14 It's going to give you something. I was like, Lala teased that she will also have a bigger role on this upcoming season of the Valley.

Speaker 2 I fuck with Lala. Yeah.

Speaker 33 We need, if we're going to have Sheena, we definitely need Lala.

Speaker 14 It's like a balance. Yeah.

Speaker 26 I would hope that we would get a little bit more.

Speaker 21 What's their relationship like right now?

Speaker 14 Lala and Sheena. I feel like you don't really see them out together as much.
And they both have like next door neighbor houses in Palm Springs and whatnot.

Speaker 14 I just feel like they're always together during Vanderpump.

Speaker 37 Yeah, I feel like I see them post like their kids together a lot.

Speaker 33 I do think they're like genuinely real life, really good friends.

Speaker 2 There's nothing she won't say for attention. And you know that's all she wants.
And there's so there's nothing you can say when we talk about this show that won't just like feel the beast.

Speaker 13 But Jax Taylor is the same way and she knows that.

Speaker 2 I don't like talking about Jax Taylor. I know.
To be clear. But the thing is,

Speaker 15 wouldn't you rather talk about Sheena than Jax?

Speaker 11 I'm sure you want to like call him every name in the book and throw stuff at the TV.

Speaker 19 That's what he says in every single cameo.

Speaker 11 I'm sure you want to throw things at the TV and call him every name in the book.

Speaker 2 Is Brock allegedly signed up or is he just along for the ride?

Speaker 14 If Sheena is going to be a full-time cast member on the Valley, you bet your ass we're getting some Brock Days.

Speaker 2 But how does that work? Does like Bravo just assume they get a free Brock

Speaker 2 and all of his confessionals? Like, do they get like, I guess you got to talk about this?

Speaker 46 This is interesting because Kristen Dodie just came out and said that she like doesn't fuck with Brock like at all.

Speaker 2 That's good. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 I did see that. We have them them on.

Speaker 11 Do we know why?

Speaker 19 She said he's not her cup of tea.

Speaker 14 Awesome. Like, from like meeting, I think she's just never

Speaker 14 the vibe that she wanted to besties with him.

Speaker 3 Hey, guess what?

Speaker 13 I can't wait to see it.

Speaker 14 No, it's going to be a good season. Do we know if Janet's coming back?

Speaker 2 Probably.

Speaker 13 Sure, throw her in there too. At this point, Sheena.

Speaker 11 If Sheena's there, I think Janet will definitely feel more comfortable.

Speaker 2 She has

Speaker 14 an ally.

Speaker 13 It's going to be awesome.

Speaker 2 Moving on, sadly, not forever. Rachel Recchia is with us to talk about her perfect match experience and if this is her final run on reality TV or if she will maybe be back for more.

Speaker 2 Either way, we're going to find out.

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Speaker 2 Rachel, welcome back. Thanks for having me.
So good to be with you. How are you?

Speaker 2 Why are we scared? You guys are tough always.

Speaker 2 On who? I mean, you guys just say it how it is. We're going to talk some shit today.
We're going to talk some shit today.

Speaker 35 We love

Speaker 2 before we talk about your shit. We were just talking about the valley.
You watch the valley. I watch the valley and I'm friends with a lot of the cast members.
Who are you? I don't want to offend.

Speaker 2 Who are you friends with? I love Zach. I'm friends with Brittany and Kristen.
Great. Okay.
Are you excited to see Sheena? Well, I did pay 15 US dollars to get the audio, but

Speaker 2 I wanted to listen because I've seen all the rumors. I'm like, let me figure this out myself.

Speaker 2 Honestly. $15 U.S.

Speaker 29 dollars. $15 U.S.

Speaker 2 dollars.

Speaker 2 I think it's smart. Like, she held those cards so close to her chest and she revealed them.
The moment she needed to. I'm sorry.
Like, well played, Sheena. She said, well played.
You deserve it.

Speaker 2 Family to feed. No, she definitely.
That's playing chess. She collected.

Speaker 2 She could have pulled that out during last season of VP.

Speaker 11 And then everyone would have hated her.

Speaker 18 And she's like, oh, my God.

Speaker 12 It's true.

Speaker 2 Credit to Sheena. She was like, it's not my time.
It's not my time. And now it is.

Speaker 32 And it got her cast.

Speaker 2 And it got her on the valley.

Speaker 2 You know what? Give credit. Well, credit.
Sometimes you've got to be like, these people are professionals.

Speaker 2 That's true. And that's exactly what she just did.
Speaking of being a professional, you are now a professional reality TV star.

Speaker 2 No, I wouldn't say that i mean look at my i think once you was not really professional i think once you start getting paid yeah you know then you're a professional i mean like

Speaker 2 how did netflix come to you being like hey girl perfect match yeah it was crazy i like the show i've watched seasons one and two and i was watching the second season and i got a call from my team and they were like would you take an interview and i was like how Like, I'm not on Netflix.

Speaker 2 They're like, no, this season, like, they're casting all outside. And I was like, oh, yeah.
like, that's so cool. It's never been done in a dating form.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 And I really wanted to be a part of the first time they did it. So they, they had you at Hello.
Yeah, I really wanted it, which was crazy because normally like with Paradise, I was like fighting.

Speaker 2 I did not want to go. And I was like, I don't know.
Okay. Like maybe it'll be fun.
But this one I was like, it just seemed like something more fresh and fun. And I wasn't going to bring.

Speaker 2 a bachelorette reputation into it. Right.
Well,

Speaker 2 but I really wanted to start over, and that's why I wanted to do it.

Speaker 14 The show had different plans for you.

Speaker 2 No, genuinely. I really thought

Speaker 2 I was going to be the only one because I only knew one other person who interviewed and he turned it down. So I was like, it's just

Speaker 2 Blake.

Speaker 2 Moinester man.

Speaker 2 Oh,

Speaker 2 I was like, isn't he married?

Speaker 2 Hey, now we need to candy on him or on a break so he could go into our McClass season four. Okay.

Speaker 2 I know she's part of the Netflix family, but I didn't know that close.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 2 Honestly,

Speaker 2 is he safariing right now? Is that why he wasn't available? I just think he was like very on the fence about it. Like he just didn't know if it was right.
And y'all are just like strictly friends.

Speaker 18 Yes.

Speaker 41 Yeah. Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 How many? I don't know how many more times I know. I'll be saying this for the rest of my life.

Speaker 2 No, they're like, they get off on their safari trips together.

Speaker 27 He's like taking her out

Speaker 2 of the ocean. We're like flying over the animal.
It was like, you know, those vibes.

Speaker 27 Very romantic, but like, but not friends.

Speaker 32 Yeah. So at what point?

Speaker 2 Well, so when you, you didn't know that Clayton was going to be there, but you walked in and here is. Freddie told me.
Freddy.

Speaker 2 And he played it so cool. We were on our date and he goes, oh, like the bachelor, like, whose season were you on? And I'm like, oh, Clayton and Cindy just goes, all right.

Speaker 2 And then he like slowly told me. He's like, I just want to let you know when you walk in there, he's there.

Speaker 2 And so Freddy's hot. Right.
Yeah. So hot.
Right.

Speaker 42 Yeah.

Speaker 2 And you were on a date with with Freddy. I was very lucky.

Speaker 32 That was amazing.

Speaker 23 Yeah, but like I saw him.

Speaker 2 I'm like, oh, thank you.

Speaker 2 Nothing against Clayton, but it seemed like as though, from what we watched, that you were more interested in Clayton pursuing you than

Speaker 2 Hottie Eddie. Eddie.
Freddy. Freddy, Eddie.

Speaker 2 Does it really matter?

Speaker 2 It doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 It just literally

Speaker 37 seemed very interested in you.

Speaker 2 See, I don't know.

Speaker 2 Like, I was very shocked watching back because in person, person, I think we both have a very like, we're not bombshells by any means, which is crazy that we like were because I don't feel like we are like steal each other's man or girl.

Speaker 2 Like, we're more passive.

Speaker 2 Blink twice if you think he was afraid of Madison. I don't know if he was afraid, but he definitely wanted to give it a shot.

Speaker 2 And I think he, in a way, told me that where I was like, all right, I'm not even going to really push this. Like,

Speaker 2 if you come to me, you come to me. But it seemed more of he's like not open.
That's the right word. Like, he wasn't open, really.

Speaker 2 And then I heard all the what he said in an interview, and I was like, Was that about me? Or, like, I don't know if it was because it was very shocking.

Speaker 19 It came across as like he was gonna match with you, and then you came to him being like, I don't know.

Speaker 2 Oh, I was freaking out. That probably didn't help my cause.
My friends weren't very happy watching that. They're like, You didn't sit down with Freddie again? Like, you're going and freaking out.

Speaker 2 I was upset. I was upset.
You were. Yeah.
Freddy's hot. Yeah.
And Madison, again, haven't met her, don't know her on camera from Love is Blind, Minnesota. And this, she just seems a little toxic.

Speaker 2 You know, like the definition of hurt people, hurt people.

Speaker 2 Like, what was the, like, who's the first guy that she was matched up with? Cody. Cody.
And then, like, she decided not to like him. And then she, like, called him disgusting.

Speaker 2 But if you get a chance to match up Freddy, do you really blame her? Like, I would have taken that shot, too.

Speaker 2 I would have to do that.

Speaker 35 Yeah, as her being, like, yeah, and he's fucking disgusting.

Speaker 12 Yeah, that was a good idea.

Speaker 2 She just, she instantly talks shit about like whoever she's lost interest in to the point of like she want she she comes across on TV as that she wants to hurt people I was gonna say like emotionally

Speaker 2 hurt people or accuse them of shit like she just she comes across as the definition of hurt people hurt people like I'd be like I'm so glad Clayton didn't match with her you know what I'm saying like can you imagine that kind of would have been fun to watch I will say I think she's a bit misunderstood I think she's been through a lot I believe but again that I believe she also didn't see me as like a threat because Freddy picked.

Speaker 2 Well, you know, once Freddy like picked her, she was like, okay. So it's like, she was definitely very like, she felt comfortable around me.
And I mean her. I'll find you.
I mean, she, she was great.

Speaker 2 I don't know what happened with Cody before because that was all before I got there. So much went on.
Breathe on her wrong or something.

Speaker 47 Before I got there. So I will not know.

Speaker 2 You'll have to ask about that.

Speaker 9 Listen, we are, we have defended Clayton.

Speaker 2 We love Clayton. We love Clayton.
We are rooting for Clayton's overall happiness in life. We are.
Of course, me too. I genuinely.
He did. Yes.
Was crazy.

Speaker 40 Was not defendable.

Speaker 2 Unforgivable. Oh, I don't know if it's unforgivable.

Speaker 27 I mean, for me, it was.

Speaker 2 It was. It's just my kind of like,

Speaker 2 you kept saying this is the third time. What was the second time? The first time was the Rose Ceremony from Hell.
No, I remember that. Everyone tried to leave that night.

Speaker 2 The way we were convinced to stay that, like, everyone tried to leave. Gabby left.
We all got to stay for one day. The next day, broke up with us in the room at the same time.

Speaker 2 Yeah. That's a second.
That's two. Yeah.

Speaker 15 That's two.

Speaker 33 The first time it was like, well, I slept with all of you or I was in love with all of you.

Speaker 2 How did you get convinced to say?

Speaker 2 Come on.

Speaker 2 I sat in a room to be an ITI.

Speaker 2 Rachel, come on.

Speaker 2 Rachel, you're not going to leave him.

Speaker 2 You're running away with this, babe. Let's just.

Speaker 2 I'm like, okay.

Speaker 2 He needed to fuck them so he could know it was you.

Speaker 2 And I was like, you're right. I know he loves me.
He said it to me first. I'm like, God, he just got confused.
He doesn't mind fantasy.

Speaker 2 Like, I was delusional.

Speaker 9 You guys watch how delusional I was.

Speaker 32 I was like, I'm just

Speaker 2 a runner-up twice.

Speaker 2 Two separate seasons. I can't even imagine that.

Speaker 2 I left, went back to reality, came back, and let the same thing happen.

Speaker 11 He was going to win both times.

Speaker 2 You just had, you just had, like, you had 24 hours of like still never really out of Dululand.

Speaker 2 Every Every time I was with Glenn, I'd go back into a state of absolute delusion. Like I don't know what else to just do.
What does he smell like? Is it really that good? I don't know.

Speaker 2 He's got that pheromone hormones scent thing. I think it really is everything that happened at the end of our season.

Speaker 11 Your trauma.

Speaker 2 And it's just this like need for, or I don't know if it's like internal where I just am like, you made the wrong decision. Like, and now you finally see it.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 And that's it. It would have made sense if you would have agreed.
Like, that's what's so fucked up about it.

Speaker 2 Like, the reality is, is most people who are watching Perfect Match, I'm guessing like 2% of the audience, like, knows the lore behind, like, you and Clayton. Like, we know it.

Speaker 2 Like, obviously, no one on the cast knew. No one on the cast knows.
Most of the Netflix audience are like, they're just like, yeah, whatever. I don't care.

Speaker 2 But, like, we know, right? But, like, we wanted Clayton to pursue you. You go, yes.
And then the next day you say, my intuition or whatever. What did he say? I don't care.

Speaker 2 He says, my intuition told me to dump you for a third time.

Speaker 2 It's like, That's my feeling. Things are speaking to me in the night and they're telling me this is not good.
He really wants to be a good guy.

Speaker 2 I think, and genuinely,

Speaker 2 again, I'm not going to speak that ill, but we're going to say it how it is. I think he came on this show because he did want that redemption.
And I'm the easiest path to it.

Speaker 2 Like that was right in front of him. And he saw it.

Speaker 2 I think he saw it. And the next day he's like, oh, I genuinely, I can't do it.
Because it wasn't even when I tell you that night, we didn't even speak. Like him saying, like, oh, we had the night.

Speaker 2 And then we had this blindfolded kiss that I barely knew it was him. I kind of touched his shirt and kind of knew it was him.
Like, I was scared.

Speaker 2 Like, and then you're saying there isn't chemistry there. I'm like, we didn't even talk last night.
We talked about your spiritual journey and how production style is different.

Speaker 2 Like, how do you, you didn't even try to get to know me. He said, he said, we're both better versions of ourselves.
I definitely am.

Speaker 2 That was like a nice thing to say. And you're like, you know what? We, we, we owe it to each other.

Speaker 17 You said everything happens for a reason.

Speaker 46 And that's my screensaver.

Speaker 2 Oh, my God. Please, I watch that back.
I don't think I remember that happening.

Speaker 2 I was just sitting there like, and you're, you laughed after, and it was like, you know that you're like, fucking God. I was so confused.

Speaker 2 And not to mention, this is the first conversation I had in the house. And immediately he's like, let's match.

Speaker 41 I'm like, no.

Speaker 2 And he loves to do that. What is happening? I was like, I haven't talked to a single, I didn't talk to any of the men that night because I was so confused and just like terrified.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 But yeah, then he had a good thing going. Like Juliet,

Speaker 2 I don't think he liked Juliet.

Speaker 14 And I think Juliet liked somebody else.

Speaker 3 She was ready to. No, she want poor Juliet.

Speaker 12 Every time she tried to interrupt

Speaker 19 someone, he was like, sorry.

Speaker 15 No.

Speaker 2 She's like, this isn't how this is supposed to work.

Speaker 2 She was. Juliet was like, I never watched The Bachelor.
She knew a lot about The Bachelor, even about like the whole like Mystelia. Like, she was like,

Speaker 2 yeah, she's like what i watch i don't i don't know they had sex and they have feelings and i'm like but i don't watch and she never will no it was he first went to madison and was like we should match and madison was like i don't i think i'm gonna with cody and he was like okay and then matched with juliet and then he came and he's like i think we should match and then on a date with sandy he's like and i feel like we should match

Speaker 2 see i didn't know any of this

Speaker 2 juliet said yes i didn't know he asked sandy on her i didn't know that happened I didn't know any of this.

Speaker 2 I didn't know what he was saying in interview because to me, he was like, oh, like it was very performative mercy.

Speaker 2 Like, I'm going to give you the season and I'm going to put you on a date and step away. And then he's in his interview, I'm trying to put myself on a date.
Tomorrow, Rachel's going home.

Speaker 2 Bags are packed. And I'm like, you told me this is for me.
Like,

Speaker 2 what do you think Clayton's version is going to be when we talk to him if he shows up? I think he's going to say that he was just so shocked by my reaction and that

Speaker 2 it just startled him and just seeing me got him like feeling feelings from the past that weren't really there.

Speaker 43 What I don't understand is

Speaker 2 why

Speaker 42 you, obviously y'all are all living in a house.

Speaker 9 Y'all could have like continued to like chat and catch up not being matched.

Speaker 2 Genuinely. And I'm like, you could have let me walk out.
Like I could have been like.

Speaker 31 You would have matched with Freddie.

Speaker 2 Freddy was ready to match. I don't know.
I really, I'm telling you being there, I don't know. But yeah, I didn't try again.

Speaker 2 Like me and Freddie had no conversations once we got to the house because I was so like, I don't know the right word.

Speaker 37 Yeah.

Speaker 11 At least Freddie gave you a heads up and you like had time to prepare.

Speaker 2 Can you imagine if you didn't?

Speaker 11 You honestly walked in so iconic being like, I'm going to go say hey to them and we'll talk.

Speaker 2 I walked in thinking it was going to be, I went to paradise with Avon, who I had, you know, fallen in love with on my season.

Speaker 2 So I I was like, okay, this is going to be similar where it's like, we'll have a conversation. You do you, I'll do me.
And I sat down and you could see like, I'm like laughing.

Speaker 2 And then it goes straight into like, I feel like we should match. I'm like, oh, God.
Okay. I didn't see this.
I didn't see this happening.

Speaker 2 I did not see it coming. So, what did you guys do that night? We talked about

Speaker 2 the difference between The Bachelor and this show,

Speaker 2 what's happened so far and his spiritual journey. What was that?

Speaker 2 Like that he's just been on a journey and it's healed him, which I do think he's changed, but I think the same decision-making is what's getting him in trouble. And that hasn't changed.

Speaker 2 I think that's it. Yeah, it makes sense.
He's definitely well-intentioned.

Speaker 46 Those intentions.

Speaker 2 Those intentions. But yeah, he,

Speaker 2 and what's crazy is I think he thinks things through. I think he thinks things through.

Speaker 2 Why do you

Speaker 2 do?

Speaker 2 Well, I mean, he thinks them through from his perspective.

Speaker 11 For like, not a long time, though.

Speaker 2 Not into the future, not past 12 hours. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I think he decides in the middle.

Speaker 37 He's not a psychic.

Speaker 2 He can't contradict his feelings.

Speaker 11 I mean, he's like, I don't know. I'm feeling this right now.
And like, Rachel, I think we should break up.

Speaker 2 I'm like,

Speaker 2 the way he used this earnestly was just like, my intuition just changed. And it was the same exact, like, I will never forget the way he looked coming into Gabby's hotel room.
Like that look.

Speaker 2 And he came back for the date, the same exact look. He goes, Rachel, come here, talk upstairs.
And I'm like, oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 I literally was like, am I wrong? Am I wrong? He goes upstairs and starts telling me that. I'm like, get away from me.

Speaker 2 I'm like, I'm so upset because it's more than just like, oh my gosh, this stings, this breakup. It's like, you're humiliating me.
You know that you're doing this.

Speaker 2 You know that I have a willingness to forgive you. And you take advantage of it.

Speaker 6 Like, he really does. I mean, the fact that he sat there and was like, trying to convince you in a way of like, this doesn't just happen.

Speaker 20 Like, the universe put put us both here and like we're missing and i'm like yeah you're together like i've got to try

Speaker 2 i think he sees it through that lens like i think but only for 12 hours whatever the reason i mean but like we clayton's been through a lot we know this like his his journey on reality tv is the most unfortunate it's up there

Speaker 2 so i think when he see like when he shows up and he sees rachel there not to like but he's yeah i think he's just like the guy who has everything happens for a reason as a screensaver is just more like,

Speaker 3 this is this, this is destiny. We should like, oh my God, this is a second chance.

Speaker 2 I can, you know, and then, and then he wakes up and he's like, holy shit. And then he tries to be honest in that moment and he just can't.

Speaker 2 I know, but I feel like he was also like doing a bit of like revisionist history. Like,

Speaker 2 oh, everyone saw, thought we had chemistry, but I couldn't see it. I'm like, Clayton, you gave me every single group date rose I could possibly do.

Speaker 2 Yeah, when you said that, I was like, what do you mean? And then one, you tried to give me and they said no. Like, what? And then you guys, then then you slept her there.

Speaker 2 And then you told her you loved her. And then you screamed it from a balcony.
And then you begged me to say, and then you asked my dad to marry me. And he goes, I didn't see it.

Speaker 2 I'm like, were we on the same season? No.

Speaker 3 And then after the kissing challenge on Perfect Match, he's like, I gave her a little bit of a sneaker.

Speaker 11 And that's like, we must not.

Speaker 2 I'm like, Clayton, I only knew it was you because I felt your shirt, babe.

Speaker 20 Like, I like, and I know how to play the game.

Speaker 2 I'm scared. Like, we are sitting there in the heat on a platform with headphones on.
I'm kissing every girl's boyfriend. It's my first day sober.
Like, of course, I'm going to be a bad kisser.

Speaker 2 What do you mean? Like, if I was a good kisser, I'd be scared.

Speaker 26 And also, you, it's it, I've said this before on Love Island when they do these blindfold kisses.

Speaker 27 It's like, you startled me, right?

Speaker 2 Like, now I'm nervous. How's your tongue in my mouth? Like, I don't know you were here yet.
I can't see you.

Speaker 3 I can't feel you.

Speaker 35 Like, I don't know what's happening.

Speaker 2 Did the guys go right in with the tongue? No, not. It felt like everything I did was very like slow.
It's funny too, because

Speaker 2 they said that um like i was louis worst kiss and

Speaker 2 you can ask if it wasn't me because we all know who it was because he makes fun of her he's like you went in straight with the tongue and she's like god forbid a girl catches a vibe like i just feel like those i've never done anything like that bachelor doesn't do that so i was very like slow and i am you know i'm excited to see you continue on this show and see your like you know um what did we learn about lucy that she likes butt plugs or something vibrating vibrating butt plugs like i'm excited to learn things about you thank you so i hope you open up

Speaker 2 you gotta be less rigid girl maybe yours lucy's vibrating butt plug

Speaker 2 uh i'm curious watching about i felt daniel overreacted when um lucy made out with um ollie yeah no i get it i get it like ollie has a big old beard and stuff but like the challenge wasn't find your partner though

Speaker 2 calm down like they did not say he's still gonna find Daniel.

Speaker 14 We're on a show where we allow other couples to break up your relationship.

Speaker 2 Also, it's day maybe four at this point, maybe four.

Speaker 2 But that argument, that wasn't even like that went on for a long time. That started the moment we got in the van.

Speaker 2 And that's what they showed is a short clip. Really? What does he mean? I just feel like

Speaker 2 Lucy is just, she's my closest friend on the show. We're still so close.
And like, she's so sweet. And I feel like she's so willing to forgive as well.

Speaker 2 And she wanted to make things work and kind of didn't want to upset him. But it seems like he got very embarrassed easily because of the boys.
Like the boys were so close.

Speaker 2 And I think knowing that Ollie got that higher rating like set him off.

Speaker 32 And he would just take it out on Lucy.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Could you just imagine losing your mind because you got a nine?

Speaker 2 He's like, the point is the beard. The point is the beard.
That wasn't, she gave Ollie a 10 because he's a 10.

Speaker 2 it wasn't you he liked she liked i mean like it's a kiss it's a kiss i think there was also like a hug that happened after that confused her if i remember correctly that's on him right i think there was a point where she was like okay but then he hugged her and she was like oh so it's so break good so is that daniel like i think she got really good and it's like it's disorienting like it really is the beard like you would think you would like feel it and he does have scruff yeah they all i mean clayton did well and to be fair i'm like how many times do like if you haven't seen somebody, like, like you saw somebody that week and it's like, do they have a mustache?

Speaker 14 I don't know. Right.
Yeah.

Speaker 14 I spent six hours looking at their face. I don't know if they have a mustache.

Speaker 2 So early when that happens.

Speaker 14 So if I'm disoriented, eyes covered, head cut. Like, you know, I'm just making out to make out.

Speaker 2 Did Alex come in just bragging about threesomes or is that just how it was edited? So I, that

Speaker 2 fuck. That aired like way after.

Speaker 2 So I had no idea about the threesome, but she came in like a bombshell. Like she was going to steal your man.
I remember seeing her and I'm like, you're going going to put us in at the same time.

Speaker 2 I was like, come on. This is so not fair.

Speaker 2 But she came in and she made, I think, all the boys question for a minute. But this season, it's very like, if you're not there day one, it's really difficult to make a connection in the house.

Speaker 31 That's kind of giving Bachelor in Paradise as well this season.

Speaker 19 Are you watching that?

Speaker 2 Yeah, unfortunately. What do you think? Trauma? No, not trauma at all.

Speaker 2 I just am like really disappointed for everyone I know that went on because I think it had so much potential and it feels like it's really Rachel Recke is the new showrunner. What did she do?

Speaker 2 No, I don't know.

Speaker 14 She said, don't put that on me. She's like, I don't, I didn't fly, actually.

Speaker 2 But don't have only six people on the beach.

Speaker 17 Six people. There's a rose ceremony every four hours.

Speaker 2 Jill had 24 hours, she said, her and Susie.

Speaker 41 It's great. Normally you get three days, right?

Speaker 2 I don't know. Jill was only there for 24 hours.
No, she got to stay, I remember. But that first Rose ceremony, it happened.

Speaker 2 She went in the night before. Yeah.
The next day was

Speaker 31 it's happening too fast.

Speaker 32 Yeah.

Speaker 23 And it's just, there's, you can't six people on the beach.

Speaker 14 Well, you can't really make genuine connections because at the end of the day, you're just trying to stay. Like maybe somebody that I am excited about right now.

Speaker 46 Do you like seeing the goldens mixed in?

Speaker 2 I do, but it's like hard because I don't like them seeing hurt and heartbroken. And it feels like this isn't as wholesome.
We're watching the normal show.

Speaker 2 It's very like we hear their stories and then they go home and it's sad, but like seeing them get rejected or not get the person they want is not entertaining for me. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Honestly, I was kind of with Jeremy when he was like, I hate the goldens.

Speaker 2 On the TV show, it's, yeah, I don't know. I love the nostalgia of the golden bachelor and the bachelorette and the reminder that there's life after 60, you know, and you can fall in love and whatever.

Speaker 2 But like, just not in this context, not watching April make out with Sean.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 14 Or it should have been two separate seasons, I feel like where it's like, so we can do the wholesome dates and whatnot and then do like the like, let's get down and dirty.

Speaker 31 What I'm finding to be just insane is that we have, this is the first time we're actually watching our contestants like do something, like compete.

Speaker 19 Like, how have every season beforehand, we've just been watching everyone sit on the beach?

Speaker 2 We were pretty entertaining back then.

Speaker 14 I was going to say, who's the girl that like lost her, her, her luggage and then was just like talking to the camera randomly, being like, I can't find my luggage.

Speaker 14 I have no, like, it was just like some of the most unhinged scallop fingers.

Speaker 2 Because it used to be a comedy.

Speaker 14 Yeah, it used to be funny.

Speaker 2 But still, like, everyone is still here for the right reasons and still wants to find a connection. And I think this is the first season we're seeing it where people are like,

Speaker 2 I'm here kind of for the game. I like Juana Rose.
And it's allowed where before

Speaker 2 you could not ever

Speaker 2 go on a bachelor's show.

Speaker 26 That's true. I do.

Speaker 36 I mean, first of all, I know we'll get into Paradise with Bailey a little bit more, but like that

Speaker 2 challenge.

Speaker 11 There's so much to say about that.

Speaker 2 Well, you're here. I feel so bad for Bailey.

Speaker 33 Now she still doesn't know.

Speaker 2 You know what it's like to be.

Speaker 7 I am the number one Susie leftovers, please.

Speaker 2 Just change my name to that.

Speaker 2 That's crazy. Not only the leftovers, but he continues to talk about Susie on this show.

Speaker 2 But I'm on, and I will promote her tomorrow.

Speaker 2 Susie, I don't know what you got. Susie got that pivot to me.

Speaker 2 I don't know what's going on down there.

Speaker 43 She didn't even need to use it on The Bachelor.

Speaker 2 I think it's something more.

Speaker 2 She's a witch.

Speaker 2 She's a witch. She's sick.

Speaker 2 That's crazy.

Speaker 18 No, the fact that Jeremy is just operating under the fact that that never happened.

Speaker 2 And he's

Speaker 2 fully saying it in front of the camera.

Speaker 2 Like, these hidden cameras, he did not think. It wasn't a hidden camera.
It was like in the corner.

Speaker 2 in his chair on the. Isn't it like the stationary one? So you're not going to be able to do it.
He was not ITM.

Speaker 2 What do you got? No, when he came here.

Speaker 8 She's talking about when he was.

Speaker 32 He was in the room with the boys saying, I want to pose.

Speaker 2 He didn't think they were going to use that.

Speaker 14 I don't know. Or that they could hear it.

Speaker 2 Genuinely, because that was something I had to get used to.

Speaker 2 I've been seeing footage. I'm like, oh.
Don't remember that. Like, that must have happened.

Speaker 14 I'll tell you when your mic pack is off. And then he goes and tells them anyways.
Like, what did he do?

Speaker 2 If you're not 50 feet into the ocean

Speaker 15 with your top off

Speaker 2 yeah under the water facing the sea you know they will catch it they'll catch it no that i mean i i mean what are your thoughts on brian that fantasy suite with parisa was scary he's a dick that's dramatic that was actually scary what's your favorite color and he got mad about oh my god you know what they should have done in that challenge they should have asked ryan like what is parisa's favorite color oh no that's parisa Well, they're asking all the men the questions.

Speaker 2 And then he would have been, it would have been like, you motherfucker, I told you.

Speaker 2 We should have answered those questions.

Speaker 38 That was, he's mean.

Speaker 46 He's not nice.

Speaker 2 And when he did his Zoe 2, like, just the 180. He doesn't like a compliment.

Speaker 2 Don't tell him his hair looks nice. Don't tell him he looks good today.
Don't tell him you're happy to see him.

Speaker 11 This is me being brutally honest. No, we're aware.

Speaker 10 No, yeah.

Speaker 2 He's like, yeah, I'm just being brutally honest.

Speaker 37 Okay.

Speaker 14 I would like to see you try delivering it soft. What does that look like?

Speaker 2 Genuinely.

Speaker 7 So scary.

Speaker 27 So there's no part of you that wishes you did Paradise instead of Perfect Match.

Speaker 2 No. That would have been great if you would have done both and you would have been on it.
You literally would have been. Simultaneously.
I would, no, no.

Speaker 2 The first, when I did Paradise, I was like, oh, I had a great time.

Speaker 43 I loved it.

Speaker 2 I had no business being on that beach. Like, let's be so for real.
So, no, it was, it was, it's a tough watch.

Speaker 2 What do you think of Louis? I love Louie. Okay.
What's happening now is crazy. You're talking about the whole like Lila Miguel.
What's your read?

Speaker 2 I don't know their relationship, but it feels like, I mean, by them, you mean Louis and Miguel.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and Leah. I don't know how far that goes.
I love him as a person. I think he's amazing.
I get along with him so well.

Speaker 2 He's such good TV, but it just feels like kind of selfish a little bit to like, I mean, Sandy and him have such a good connection on the show.

Speaker 2 And it's like now people are kind of seeing things of like, oh, what's going on now?

Speaker 31 Have you talked to Sandy?

Speaker 42 How's she feeling?

Speaker 2 No, I mean, I think that that sucks. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 I'm sure you guys have talked to her. Had that been going on? I didn't know until I saw it on TikTok.
Because I just assume there's no perfect match, you know? There, I mean, that's kind of hard.

Speaker 2 I will say this. I feel like a lot of people are under the assumption that, like, no, there's a lot still going on.
Like, even just from that Netflix event, like, there's a lot happening.

Speaker 2 What happened at the end of the joke event?

Speaker 2 Oh, my God. There's might have been more drama at that Netflix event.
We didn't say more. We were there.

Speaker 31 Why weren't we privy to the drama?

Speaker 11 The drama.

Speaker 2 Because we stayed there. We thought we were better than everyone.
And I wasn't even at that hotel.

Speaker 39 Like, I didn't even stay there.

Speaker 2 There's still stuff going on. It's not, it might have been a year ago, but with who? With who? Just give it a hug.
I don't know. Maybe me.
You don't have to tell us the what, but tell us the who.

Speaker 14 I don't know. Do you know how Sandy felt about Louis and Huda?

Speaker 2 Does she feel that? I actually don't.

Speaker 2 You're going to have to have to wait.

Speaker 2 But for me, I'm like, that's just disappointing. Okay.
Yeah.

Speaker 14 How do you feel about it?

Speaker 2 I just am like, it's literally airing. We have, what, maybe two weeks?

Speaker 6 Right. I couldn't wait until maybe leave some.

Speaker 2 It feels like a little selfish just because people are like watching. And I think it affects the whole cast of like people being like, oh, why would I watch then? Right.

Speaker 2 Because all these couples, like, we already know about AD and Ollie, but there is more.

Speaker 38 But

Speaker 2 at least with AD and Ollie, like, we love

Speaker 2 genuinely.

Speaker 40 Pregnant.

Speaker 2 together, building a family. So happy.

Speaker 2 Like,

Speaker 2 I'm fine with that spoiler. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah. I didn't know that.
Oh, my God. Living under the body.
They're just making a family.

Speaker 14 I just remember the last, was it Love is Blind or whatever when they came out and announced the podcast that they were engaged. Yeah.
And I was like, okay, great.

Speaker 14 And I love that you're seeing it from the very get-go that they were just like drawn to each other.

Speaker 7 But yeah, I didn't realize that so much has happened.

Speaker 2 And they go through it on the show, too. Like they, they test their relationships.

Speaker 32 Yeah.

Speaker 2 So it's not like it's all

Speaker 2 Alex. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Alex and Justine, like they went through it. So for them to be on the other side.

Speaker 2 yeah it's like watching it back you watch them build and grow and have to have hard conversations what do you think of jr he was very

Speaker 2 intense

Speaker 2 very sexual like they even oh my god they cut out this one part and it was crazy like he came back and was talking about his date with ad and we were all just sitting on the couch and i don't remember what the conversation was but he's like you know ad

Speaker 2 ass and tits and we're like every single person on the couch was like what and that was just his approach going in like i mean he's sexual

Speaker 6 he started us with with the biophiles, actually.

Speaker 2 He started using it. His biggest turn-on is what? Stealing your girl kind of thing.
That is what he said.

Speaker 26 His biggest turn-on is stealing your girl and then like watching your man fight. What?

Speaker 14 Watching them struggle, struggle to get her back.

Speaker 2 Yeah. I'm like, okay, cool.

Speaker 31 That's your biggest turn-on?

Speaker 2 Cool, bro.

Speaker 23 Like, tell him they're toxic without telling us.

Speaker 2 No, he told us.

Speaker 32 He told us.

Speaker 2 That was crazy. But him and Sandy do have a lot of history, and it's not even over.
Like, there is more to that story as well.

Speaker 27 So I wonder if they would have approached things differently had Ultimatum already aired before they went on Perfect Match.

Speaker 38 Like if they would have already known the public's perception of their relationship had they, you know.

Speaker 2 I mean, there's more to it. Like it's not over.
It's not over. So what happened in the Netflix party? Can't tell you.
Why? Well, I'll tell you after. Who?

Speaker 2 I can't tell you without it all making sense. No.
Lots of people,

Speaker 2 you know, fighting.

Speaker 23 Who's fighting?

Speaker 2 Couples getting back together. So any chance with you and Freddie? Maybe not Freddy.

Speaker 2 But who knows? Why? Why wouldn't you date Freddie? Freddie calls me. Might be talking to someone.
She's... Oh.
Oh. Carrington? I don't know.
Can we get a letter? Who could it be?

Speaker 38 Well, she's currently with Scott.

Speaker 2 It could be Scott.

Speaker 14 Scott?

Speaker 32 Love Island? No, it's not Scott Island. Love Island.

Speaker 2 Who knows?

Speaker 22 Well, he was on Love Island, but now he's with Rachel.

Speaker 2 There's three Love Island guys. We'll say that.
I don't know which one, though. Oh.
It's Scott. Okay.

Speaker 2 Leia, have we asked Rachel all the relevant questions well i mean speaking of scott i am curious to know if you clocked him taking the last seat on the couch and not giving it to you i know watching that back was actually so sad but madison was really sweet she like got up pulled something over for me but in the moment i think i was just like i don't even think i recognized it happening.

Speaker 2 But a lot of the things he said and did, I was like, oh my God, that was so mean. But we were having fun, which is all that matters.

Speaker 2 It's not Scott.

Speaker 2 But no, that was actually crazy

Speaker 2 it could be maybe he apologized

Speaker 2 you guys know i love a second chance and a third and a fourth

Speaker 2 i am just so full of forgiveness

Speaker 2 carrington that's what i'm guessing it's not carrington that's really cute i do love that i don't know it could be ray is it ray it's not ray you're trying to steal your diet

Speaker 2 i don't know you guys

Speaker 2 my intuition knows that it's carrington okay

Speaker 2 it's really cute i love that for you. Are you a Nicolache fan? I do like Nicolachee, but I don't feel like I relate to him like I do to Jesse.
Like, he has a relationship with us.

Speaker 2 I don't feel like Nick. Nick didn't.
I mean, he did say hey. Yeah.
But Jesse, like, you know, he's just such a great host. So it's hard to compete.
I'm just a big Jesse Palmer man.

Speaker 2 Although Jesse did kind of let kind of Jesse's fault what happened to you with Clayton. Yeah.
And then he went to eat at the hotel across the street. We still joke about it.

Speaker 2 He goes, I said, hi to you.

Speaker 6 And I went and let the whole place blow up

Speaker 2 that was like was that

Speaker 2 was that jesse's first season yes his first bachelorette and bachelor season was because then he like came down he was like all right well good luck he sent me and gabby up the stairs and all hell broke loose he's like well that sounds like that sucks i'm gonna go get some shrimp

Speaker 2 genuinely are you

Speaker 2 thinking of like hooking anyone any of these guys up with genevieve i'm always thinking about hooking guys up with genevieve i don't know i would actually say say she would probably be,

Speaker 2 she would like Louie. She would like Daniel.

Speaker 2 I don't know. I feel like those are maybe the only two that are kind of her type.
Is Freddie in a relationship with someone? Is that why you refuse to?

Speaker 23 I mean, he also does like, he lives in the UK, right?

Speaker 2 I will say, I do really

Speaker 2 like Freddie with someone.

Speaker 2 They're not, but I could look back and see him doing. really well in a relationship with someone on the guy.
Okay. But does it mean that they're not seeing someone?

Speaker 2 Like everyone is kind of in a weird situation, but maybe him and Madison are still together.

Speaker 23 I hope not. We can't give any spoilers.

Speaker 2 I'm gonna, Netflix is gonna sue me.

Speaker 2 We definitely hope not. God, that would be

Speaker 2 sweet, Freddy. They were really like him.
I thought him and Madison, like, listen, were one of our the most toxic relationships always start off great.

Speaker 2 I know, but they don't do anything toxic, really. Like, what do they do? That's

Speaker 2 because Freddy's an angel. Like, even when they were ripping him away from her, like, he wrote her a no, and I gave him a chance.
Sounds like Freddie.

Speaker 47 It was really Freddie's really sweet.

Speaker 2 He's a really good guy. He's really sweet.
Like he is as sweet as he looks.

Speaker 22 Wait, I have one more question for Rachel. Okay, so when Juliet left, she said to the cameras, one thing I know for sure, Clayton and Rachel are boring.
Have you spoken to Juliet since?

Speaker 22 And like, how did that make you feel?

Speaker 2 I will say this.

Speaker 33 I do love Juliet.

Speaker 2 I think with Juliet, she definitely, she spent her life on reality TV in a way I cannot understand.

Speaker 2 Like that was like her real life for years so i think when she is filming she's like in a different she's making tv she's making tv and i can respect that because i think what juliet says about me isn't how juliet actually feels maybe she'll come sit here and be like i hate rachel but i'm trying to look at her more as like a tv maker yes i'll say that character under you know you really have i have yeah i don't feel like i have look at her crying

Speaker 2 you used to really hate nick yeah no because you were mean no but you were mean

Speaker 2 and you made this full video about how i didn't like avon and i really loved avid and i was like this is wrong

Speaker 2 i remember that video and i was like i don't know he's saying you were saying how i didn't like avid stuff and i only liked tino and i was trying to like make it avon's fault and then everyone agreed with you and i was like no avan 180 and i freaked out and i just was like all right but the same the same premise with juliet that she's just she's just she's just working she's i don't feel like i was working though no you weren't then but now you understand that you are working with people who are working.

Speaker 2 I understand that from doing Netflix. I never experienced that on the bachelor.
Interesting. Why? The Love Island people, especially, they

Speaker 2 know what they are doing. And I come from a mindset of like, even though this is all real, it's all genuine.
I still genuinely like want to find a a man, like a boybrider.

Speaker 2 Like, this could be something for me and it's fun.

Speaker 9 But they are like, I got to get a bet.

Speaker 2 So next week, and I'm like,

Speaker 2 what's the prize? Isn't it fun?

Speaker 2 No, you're right, though, because like on i'm bachelor it is just ingrained into you that you you have to be genuine you cannot have the wrong intentions and so you're just like ingrain it into yourself that like i am only here for love don't anyone question genuinely though but i feel like that like i i still am there because i do

Speaker 2 sure but like you can simultaneously roll you can simultaneously be open to meeting people and genuinely want to meet someone and also recognize that like you signed up for a tv show yeah but this one it's just very out in the open, it feels like.

Speaker 46 Have you noticed difference in fans, Netflix fans, versus Bachelor Nation fans?

Speaker 2 I feel like it's been a really slow, slow start. Like, I'm not even really seeing anything like of what people think.
I'm like, what do people think about the show?

Speaker 2 I feel like it's maybe you're just not looking. I don't know if I don't search for it, but normally with Bachelor, it's like it's right in your face and people tell you how they feel.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I haven't really seen much so far. Well, you're going to stick around for Bailey? Yeah.
Great.

Speaker 2 Up next, Bailey joins us to talk about about her feelings regarding the whole Susie journey of it all and

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Speaker 2 Bailey, welcome to the show. Calling in from Portugal, apparently.

Speaker 21 From Portugal.

Speaker 24 How are you guys?

Speaker 2 We're great.

Speaker 2 Great to be with you. First off, what are you doing in Portugal?

Speaker 21 So I live here part-time. My mom and my sister live here.
We've lived here for a few years and

Speaker 21 I just come every few months and try to stay for as long as I can until they kick me out of the country. So nice.

Speaker 2 It's so nice. I've never been to Portugal.
You recommend?

Speaker 21 Oh my God, you have to come.

Speaker 21 It's literally the best. All you do is like drink wine, eat good food.
I shop a lot, do some sightseeing.

Speaker 21 It's really, a really easy way of life. I love it here.

Speaker 2 My dream day. Cute.

Speaker 2 Okay, Hoda. I actually saw Jeremy post, I think he's in Portugal.

Speaker 21 A few people have actually like been from our cast, have been in town this summer. So it's been like fun.
I've like gotten to see a few people. Sean was just here a few days ago.

Speaker 21 So yeah, it's been nice. I feel like as people like pop in, they like ask me for recs and then I like.

Speaker 21 send them on their way but it's a really like it's an easy spot to like come visit especially well you know what bip stands for bachelor in portugal so you know bachelor in portugal everyone's coming actually i i have promised kathy a trip so when when I did like Bachelor Happy Hour, I promised Kathy and Susan that we would go on a like on a Portugal trip.

Speaker 21 So I need to fulfill my promise very soon.

Speaker 2 We will also like to see that. We're going to be there tomorrow, actually.

Speaker 2 Red Eyes?

Speaker 11 You're handing out invites.

Speaker 7 We'll take a couple.

Speaker 2 Well, Bailey, we've absolutely been enjoying you on Bachelor in Paradise this season. You've been a class act.

Speaker 2 You've been the epitome of honesty and straightforwardness,

Speaker 2 a great communicator.

Speaker 2 The man that you are currently hanging out with seems to be the opposite of that.

Speaker 2 Rachel is here, is here because we were talking some perfect match.

Speaker 2 She's also a fan of Bachelor in Paradise. Obviously, we saw the previews for next episode where it seems like maybe shit might hit the fan, but you are watching it along with us.

Speaker 2 And I am curious, like, what was it like for you a few weeks back going on the date that you were asked to go on, that you had every right to say yes to. It is Batcher and Paradise.

Speaker 2 It seems like it's about testing the relationship. And as soon as that happened,

Speaker 2 Jeremy freaks out, goes full Susie Evans, calls her bags, kicking, screaming, crying, throwing up, just like needs Susie back in his life, gets rejected by Susie, then tells his boys he's like dead set.

Speaker 2 He's ready to propose. He's in love.
He's in love with Susie Evans. Doesn't happen.
And then you come back from the date, and it's as if it never happened. How was that for you watching it back?

Speaker 2 Yeah, let's start there.

Speaker 21 Yeah, I mean, I think everyone can relate. Watching it back is such an interesting

Speaker 21 thing. I feel like you're watching it happen in real time.
You have no idea all these things happened. I honestly was like, I think so focused on Bachelor in Paradise when I was there.

Speaker 21 I really wasn't thinking about watching it back later. It's definitely been hard to watch it back.
I'm obviously not going to lie.

Speaker 21 Like it's, it's been rough to watch these happen, and you know how you felt in the moment. And it's hard because you're also seeing how other people feel in the moment.

Speaker 21 Obviously, like Rachel, you can relate to this. Not everything is like always shown during paradise.

Speaker 21 There's so many different relationships forming and things happening that they only have enough time to, like, you know,

Speaker 21 show a little bit of peace of everyone. If, I mean, like two episodes ago, all I got was gum sharing.
So, really, I was like, I was happy to be like out of the limelight for a little bit.

Speaker 21 And I, like, I understand understand the like thoughts of doubt. I feel like that was really hard to watch somebody, you know, doubt you when you know how you're feeling.

Speaker 21 But I also feel like, you know, I have to just like be okay watching it back and just having, I just have to be okay processing it because like, you know, I'm remembering how I felt in the moment and I don't regret my feelings and how I was moving.

Speaker 21 So like, I just, I honestly just have to be like content with like where I was and just focus on me and my feelings coming off of this episode, just like remembering how good our date was and things like that.

Speaker 21 I feel like that's what I'm trying to keep in the back of my head. It's also like it's such a short time, like, it seems like it's such a long time and it's kind of a short amount of time.

Speaker 21 And so, you're really having to process those feelings.

Speaker 21 And I mean, I wish Jeremy didn't process them out loud, but I guess I also just like have to be okay because, like, I don't regret like going on our date and all these things. You know what I mean?

Speaker 21 Um, I'm still glad I went on the date with Andrew. I feel like I wanted to make sure no matter when I left paradise, that I would leave with no regrets.

Speaker 21 And if I didn't fulfill it to, you know, if I didn't do as much as I could, then I would have definitely like had moments of doubt as well. And so I feel like they kind of just like sneak up on you.

Speaker 21 And

Speaker 21 it's a hard watch, no matter what.

Speaker 2 That makes sense. And obviously you seem like a very classy person and you're being classy.

Speaker 2 I think the what confuses most people though, is like, I'm assuming you wish that Jeremy would have told you sooner or that he would have moved differently and been more transparent.

Speaker 2 It's one thing for him to, like you said, like maybe he was just having a moment. He was kind of sharing those feelings out loud to everyone, including us and the cameraman.

Speaker 2 But it was just more that he shared it with everyone but you. He's just operating as if like this is the only right, like if he's not doing anything wrong.

Speaker 2 Where it's almost like, why, why, why would I tell her? You know, like, it's none of your business. Like, stay out of me and Bailey's relationship kind of energy.
But maybe you see it differently.

Speaker 21 I mean I feel like it's hard I think in the moment I wish that you know definitely I would have known like he was having these feelings of doubt I don't necessarily know that they would have like changed how our relationship progressed I feel like we would have progressed the same way um I mean I do feel like you know there's moments where we had a lot of like open and honest communication and I can't like speak to where his mental was and like where his head is at, obviously.

Speaker 21 Of course, I wish that, you know, I would have been told about the phone call immediately. I wish that my friends would have told me about the phone call.

Speaker 21 It does suck when like everyone's in on something and you're not. It's like, it's a, that's a really hard processing.

Speaker 21 I feel like that's kind of what I'm processing right now is like, you know, the idea that like I was the last person to find out.

Speaker 21 And it's hard. I think.
There's so much going on that sometimes you don't think that things are critical for people to know. And

Speaker 21 it's also hard. Like Like, we're also in the beginning stages of, you know, getting to know each other and knowing each other deeper.

Speaker 21 And I think sometimes what people feel like is an important factor. Like, I think for a lot of my friends, as to maybe why they didn't tell me,

Speaker 21 they like just didn't think that I wanted to know. We, we definitely had a conversation after my date with Andrew where I don't think it was shown on camera, but we just spoke to each other.

Speaker 21 And I was just like, you know, do you want to know about my date with Andrew? He said he didn't want to know. I said, I didn't want to know about his date with Susie.

Speaker 21 He asked me after his date if I wanted to know about the date. I had like no desire to know about the date because, like, honestly, it's like, what can you do after?

Speaker 21 Like, I don't care if you guys kissed, you guys didn't kiss. It doesn't matter how many times you guys made out.
Like, that's not really going to change where we are now.

Speaker 21 So, I feel like I don't know what I think is important for people to know, not necessarily everyone else does.

Speaker 21 And so, I think I'm also trying to be like, give everyone grace and understanding of everyone having, you know, of everyone not telling me him included I wish that he would have told me I wish that it like obviously wasn't Brian

Speaker 21 I think Brian's like a good person I don't have anything against him but yeah obviously you want the person that you're like involved with to tell you or you want the people closest to you to tell you you know so yeah it is like it's a hard watch no matter what what do you make of brian's behavior towards Parisa

Speaker 2 and his

Speaker 2 it really I mean Brian seems to be like top guy in the sense that like a lot of these men really seem very sensitive when it comes to their very particular ways of dating.

Speaker 2 Brian being the most sensitive. And he just kind of comes across as a dick a little bit.

Speaker 2 Not sure if you saw that being on the beaches of paradise, but like, you know, he just seems to be very dismissive and short with Parisa.

Speaker 2 And I wonder if you saw that energy on the beach or is that something that is surprising you watching it back?

Speaker 21 Okay, so I feel like the thing is I definitely, there were moments where you noticed that like people's relationships are just having, you know, little, little things.

Speaker 21 I definitely knew about his like mini little, like, I don't want to call it a freak out, but his like little mini situation. I didn't know in depth.
I didn't know it was like about colors or things.

Speaker 21 You know, there's, we're also seeing a small part of their date. They obviously had like a whole night in the VIP, VIP suite.

Speaker 21 Um, but like, I definitely think there's moments where people's energies shift and Maybe they're just like overwhelmed.

Speaker 21 I can tell you like birds of paradise was like the most overstimulating night of my life. There was so much going on.
We, you know, we had, everyone was like having a little drink here and there.

Speaker 21 It was a long night. I do feel like, you know, him and Prisa like matched up well.

Speaker 21 But

Speaker 21 yeah, I think it's hard. Like there's moments where you just notice things and you're like, okay, maybe I wouldn't be okay with that.

Speaker 21 But like, I can't say what everyone would and wouldn't be okay with in their relationship. So I feel like.

Speaker 21 It's kind of hard. I think I noticed a switch up when him and Zoe, like when the new girls were coming in that day, he definitely had a shift in energy.

Speaker 21 So I think maybe he's like, I don't know if he knows how to process his energy as well as all the girls do.

Speaker 21 And I think there's a lot of moments where I feel like the guys are processing at a totally different speed than like what we are.

Speaker 21 And, you know, we're always thinking about the bigger picture and like what, you know, there's so much more to like what's going on. And sometimes they're like really just like living in the moment.

Speaker 21 I don't think that Brian is like a dick though.

Speaker 27 What were your thoughts on watching the way Jeremy kind of handled brian the night of like you having to choose who was going home and brian kind of like pitching his reasoning to stay how did you feel like jeremy handled that i feel like jeremy was like

Speaker 21 kind of kidding during that moment i thought like we were kind of making jokes with brian and prisa before like you know if they wanted to like

Speaker 21 I don't know how, I don't know what the word is, like bribe us. Like, you know, if they were to win, they could like share the money with us.
We were just like doing silly jokes.

Speaker 21 So I think I was a little bit shocked that Brian thought that I would send him home. Like,

Speaker 21 that was one of the, that was definitely my hardest decision of paradise. And, like, I think you can see how emotionally like distraught I am during that moment.
But, um, I feel like

Speaker 21 I didn't know that Brian was taking it as really serious, that he was really scared that we were going to send him home. It was never a thought in our minds.

Speaker 21 Obviously, in the moment, you still need to hear everyone out and be really open to like all choices.

Speaker 21 Um, but I came into paradise like having no idea that I was going to to have to make that intense decision. And so having to end somebody's journey short was definitely shitty.

Speaker 21 But I can't imagine doing that to my friend. And, you know, I consider Brian and Prisa both friends.
Like, I can't, Prisa and I share a best friend, even though we weren't best friends at the time.

Speaker 21 I just, I can't fathom doing that to like either of them. And Jeremy and I had already spoken about that.
So I think Jeremy went into the conversation with a little more of a joking vibe.

Speaker 21 Obviously, not knowing what could happen later going into next week. I I mean, you never know.
It's paradise. So like

Speaker 23 things happen.

Speaker 27 Who is the best friend that you and Parisa share?

Speaker 21 Serafina.

Speaker 24 Oh, okay. From Gran City? Yes, yes.
Yes, yes.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Got it.

Speaker 14 When the announcement of the money coming into play for Paradise, A, like, how did that change things for you?

Speaker 14 And my second part is, was there anybody's behavior that you were shocked by once they heard about the money, like how they were moving at Paradise?

Speaker 21 Yeah, I feel like when they announced the money, I think my initial thought was just like, holy shit, I didn't sign up for survivor.

Speaker 21 And then I think my next thought was just like, oh, okay, like it's kind of more relationship tests.

Speaker 21 So I just felt like keeping along with the same point of paradise, like you come with the mindset that you're like going to paradise to leave in a relationship.

Speaker 21 And I just felt like my initial thought was just like, if you're not working towards loving your partner or really liking your partner and wanting to be with your partner, there's just no way you're going to win this.

Speaker 21 So it doesn't even matter. Like, yes, $500,000 is like absolutely amazing and and it's insane.

Speaker 21 But the only people that are going to win it are the people that are like in love or working towards like really knowing their partner or really building their relationship so that it lasts out of here.

Speaker 21 So, I feel like I think a lot of the guys were like, Holy shit, just like, oh my God, that's so much money. And I think a lot of the girls were like, Okay, so we came here to like get engaged.

Speaker 21 We need to like keep working towards like getting engaged because, like, that's the point. Um, I mean, it was weird.
It's like a weird shift.

Speaker 21 You're like slightly happy that you're not having to worry about anyone else coming in.

Speaker 21 And then you're also like, oh my God, now I'm waking up in fear every day of what Jesse's going to throw at us, just like having no idea what's going on.

Speaker 21 So I feel like it was just like, oh, that night, like it was just like a wave of confusion. You're just like, so much could happen.
And I was so scared.

Speaker 21 I was like, are they going to like make me eat cockroaches? I had like so much fear. Like that was my biggest fear.
I was like, what am I going to have to do to like get this amount of money?

Speaker 21 And then I was also just like, oh you're not gonna win if like you don't love your partner so like if you don't really like your partner that's the whole point so i think we all knew that that was like part of it because it was so it's relationship based challenges so yeah i think

Speaker 21 more just like fear um excitement because like that's so cool and also just like a lot of nerves and i don't feel like anyone like really had too intense of like a strategy going into it.

Speaker 21 I think people were like trying to figure out, especially like what it's the first week of challenges.

Speaker 21 So, I think people were just trying to figure out: is everyone gonna like switch up and make this into like you know

Speaker 21 an intense like survivor where you're like sending home your friends? Um, and I guess for that, we're just gonna have to like keep and see what happens in the upcoming weeks.

Speaker 2 I don't know if this is relevant because we don't know what happens at the end, but does do you think Jeremy knows that a wedding costs more than $56,000? Was it that Brian

Speaker 2 oh, yeah, Brian, yeah,

Speaker 2 like Brian, Brian and Frisa are never going to make it. I don't know if they leave the ventures of paradise together.
I don't know, but like, this boy is in for a rude awakening.

Speaker 2 If he can't even talk about colors, and the next thing he's going to find out that he has to drop more than 56 G's on a wedding,

Speaker 12 their questions were hard.

Speaker 21 I felt like they got hard questions. I'm like, I and well, it was hard because in that moment, we're like, we were so excited that we won that challenge.
Like, we also,

Speaker 21 obviously, this is not shown, but we spent so much time.

Speaker 21 Like, majority of the questions we got, you don't get to see all the questions, but majority of the questions we got, we had already spoken about. So, I think that was nice.

Speaker 21 I think a lot, you know, the questions are randomized. So, like, we haven't had that question, but like, in my head, I would know that a wedding costs more than $56,000.

Speaker 21 I'm like, oh, that's like, wow, you got a cheap wedding at this point. Like, do you know how much a venue is?

Speaker 2 Like, you know, that Brian was just like, I would never, I will never spend that much money on my wedding. We're getting married in the backyard.

Speaker 2 We're getting married in the backyard and she's going to love it. You know, you know, that's Bronze.

Speaker 21 The one question that Brian and Barisa got, it was like, how much money have you spent on an article of clothing? And I was like, oh, this is like easy.

Speaker 21 Like, I was like looking at, I remember watching them answer the question. I was like, this is so easy.
Brian is like wearing scotch and soda pants right now.

Speaker 21 He's literally wearing scotch and soda pants and he has Louis Vuitton like slides on. I'm like, this is like $300.
I'm like, are you checking your bank statements?

Speaker 21 I was like, I was like, but then at that moment, like, you're in the challenge and you're not even thinking about that. And like, obviously, I'm sitting back.
So I'm just having time to watch it.

Speaker 21 I'm like, yes, they're going to get this one. And then I realized I was like, maybe everyone isn't intensely obsessed with clothing like I am.

Speaker 21 So maybe everyone wouldn't know how much this like random men's brand costs. Like I have a little brother.
So I just feel like it was hard.

Speaker 21 Like we got really lucky with our questions being the first one, like how many texts, because we all talked about that that morning together as a group.

Speaker 21 And unfortunately i was the person with like the most unread text so it just came out like that we got lucky that day but yeah

Speaker 2 crazy i have 217 currently unread so i'm the complete oh i i don't even think you want to know it's it's like in the 1600s right now it's really

Speaker 2 that's insane i mean mostly my my 217 are for me

Speaker 2 i think it's like five group chats if those five group chats didn't exist it's his family group chat well most of of them, my family group chat. Oh, like group chats muted.

Speaker 43 Do not disturb immediately.

Speaker 2 Somehow, people break.

Speaker 21 A lot's been happening this season. So I think people have been texting me and they're like, oh, Bailey's not responding.
And I'm just like, guys, I'm overwhelmed.

Speaker 17 Well, after this episode, they'll probably be like, oh, it's not just us.

Speaker 21 They're like, oh, she doesn't hate me.

Speaker 2 I'm like, we're not alone.

Speaker 2 Well, Bailey, we'll let you get back to Portugal, whatever it is you're doing out there. Tell Jeremy we said hi if that is relevant.
Just kidding.

Speaker 21 I don't think I'm going to run into him, unfortunately.

Speaker 2 Oh, that's too bad.

Speaker 16 You're just really at the beach this morning.

Speaker 2 Maybe you can find that beach maybe.

Speaker 21 I've literally been shopping all day, so I'm

Speaker 21 heading home soon.

Speaker 2 Yes, it's so different.

Speaker 21 I got to get all my European brands out of the way.

Speaker 2 It's been a pleasure, Bailey. Thank you for taking the time.
It was lovely chatting with with you. Good luck the rest of the way.
We're rooting for you.

Speaker 2 And it was always, it's always great to catch up.

Speaker 21 Thank you guys. I'm happy to be here.
And it was so nice to meet you guys. Have a good week.

Speaker 2 Bye, Bailey.

Speaker 2 Bye.

Speaker 2 Period. She said, say love.
That man had a gun to her head.

Speaker 2 Jeremy.

Speaker 2 He had a gun to her head. He was in the room.

Speaker 2 I've never seen someone defend a man who did you that dirty.

Speaker 9 No, I mean, just had like no.

Speaker 2 We have, I've never seen that before.

Speaker 14 Love is blind. I'm like, I feel like we have so many people who are like,

Speaker 14 but he said it and they're like, yeah, but like, it was just like a moment.

Speaker 2 And you're like, the whole time. She's just like reading off.
Like, sometimes there's things you don't get to see.

Speaker 2 When a producer is telling you, no, no, no, don't call, and you're still like, no, call Susie. Call Susie.
Shabby's like, no, don't, don't do it. And he's still pushing.
I think he meant it.

Speaker 2 I don't think it would have mattered. She says.

Speaker 2 You know, maybe they stand up, Bailey.

Speaker 17 Maybe next episode, we'll see them work through it.

Speaker 2 It has to be Justin Spencer, right? I don't, I have no idea. I actually don't know.
I don't know either.

Speaker 41 They're being very tight-lipped.

Speaker 2 Hmm.

Speaker 23 I mean, he's, they're definitely together in Portugal.

Speaker 2 Oh, I saw he was there.

Speaker 43 Like, just Jeremy, don't post right now.

Speaker 8 Like, if you don't want people to know, like, don't, why are you?

Speaker 2 He's like, Bailey's going on the wildfowls. I'm getting on a plane.
She's like, she's like, Sean is here too. I'm like,

Speaker 2 okay.

Speaker 2 She's like, so many people from Paradise are here.

Speaker 7 Like, so many.

Speaker 14 I'm like, Bailey's actually in Portugal. And I love that she's only posting promotional for like Bachelor in Paradise.

Speaker 2 And then he's like, he's like, I'm in Portugal.

Speaker 2 You know why, though? Because

Speaker 2 he wants people to know that she forgave him. No, because he thinks they won't go as hard, probably.
Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 He's just like,

Speaker 2 together, you have to protect them to some degree, which means it's probably worse. That's annoying thing.
You worse. What do you mean?

Speaker 2 Like, when they're protecting a couple that makes it, they always edit things out. Like, they don't show every single thing.

Speaker 2 So, what do you think Bailey's might be hiding? Or do you think that's the thing? No, I think they're together. And then production's like, how can we

Speaker 2 call a little bit without edit a little bit? Yeah. But either way, like, if Bailey's with them, then she's, I mean, I guess I'm going to ask it, though.

Speaker 2 But you can't tell me that that was just a lapse in judgment. It went on for days.

Speaker 37 Yeah. I mean,

Speaker 2 immediately afterwards.

Speaker 6 If we see next episode, him be like, take full accountability, apologize, and like...

Speaker 2 He doesn't strike me as that kind of guy. We'll see.

Speaker 46 He has to have done something for Bailey to have forgiven him and not want to like talk one ounce of shit.

Speaker 2 Could have just gas lit her.

Speaker 2 What do we think?

Speaker 32 That was the craziest thing.

Speaker 2 I don't know.

Speaker 2 I mean, Bailey, we love you.

Speaker 2 I'm a huge Bailey fan. She's the, like, I feel like she's the it girl.
Every guy wants her. I loved her, dude.
I know. I was like, I saw that.

Speaker 2 i know i really like them too but just if it were like objectively speaking if you're just watching as a friend from afar like do you wish better for bailey i mean of course but i also feel like i mean isn't alex her closest friend and she didn't tell her she told jill and cat right which is crazy like she heard from brian i didn't know this and immediately not going to your girl and being like oh i'd be sprinting if that was jill They catch me.

Speaker 19 I couldn't have even finished the sentence.

Speaker 2 And I would be in that room.

Speaker 7 I'd be like, I don't really know what he said because I came to you so fast, but

Speaker 25 I heard it.

Speaker 2 He called suit and I came to you. I think they're engaged.

Speaker 2 Oh, my gosh. Wait.
I didn't even think that that could be a possibility, please. No, crazy.

Speaker 2 Could you imagine if someone goes up to Bailey and be like, just so you know, that your boyfriend is engaged to another woman right now?

Speaker 9 Yeah.

Speaker 2 So they actually, they left the show together.

Speaker 4 Yeah, she said yes.

Speaker 2 I think they're in love. Crazy.

Speaker 2 Well,

Speaker 2 we'll tune in next week. We'll tune, Bailey.
All right. Well, thank you.
Rachel, it's always good to catch up with you. Thanks, guys.
Love you. Good luck the rest of the way.

Speaker 2 It's just, you seem like you're doing well. You look great.
You just really seem like. I am happy.
Yeah, it's been a good

Speaker 2 thing. When we first met, you were just more of a shell of yourself.
And now you're just a shining, bright star.

Speaker 2 This compliment means so much.

Speaker 25 We stitched that with the video of him roasting me.

Speaker 2 I didn't even know you then. I was just like talking about a silly show.
Oh, how things change.

Speaker 2 We're best friends now. We are.
Always good to see you, Rachel. Good to see you.
Bye-bye. And then, next up, we'll get into some real housewives of Miami and OC.

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Speaker 23 Well, if you didn't catch this episode of The Real Housewives of Orange County, here is your rapid recap.

Speaker 19 In case we forgot, Shannon called Katie a John Jansen-looking Alexis Bellino-sounding psychopath at Heather's birthday party last week.

Speaker 38 But then Katie leaves the party crying.

Speaker 42 Oh no.

Speaker 2 And just as we think it's going to get boring from there, who shows up but Tamara, motherfucking judge?

Speaker 6 And for backup, Miss Joe De La Rosa. If you don't know, Joe is Slade's ex-fiancé that Gretchen has feuded with at BravoCon as recently as 2023.

Speaker 40 But don't worry, they're not looking for any drama.

Speaker 38 In fact, they say a little prayer for peace on the way.

Speaker 27 However, God does not seem to hear them, although she did hear us, because we must mention the different reads Gina and Emily have for Gretchen, which are a fake person, like she dips herself in formaldehyde every night, and a Barbie filter from 2003.

Speaker 17 God bless us, everyone.

Speaker 23 The rest of the episode is fine.

Speaker 27 Gina calls stress balls a metaphor for de-stressing.

Speaker 47 Jen and Ryan get matching veneers.

Speaker 38 Tamra's daughter serves Sky Ferreira realness while piercing ears, but then an accusation of more fraud.

Speaker 27 This time, journalistic in nature is thrust upon Katie, and uh-oh, Tamra begrudgingly meets with Jen.

Speaker 16 Instead of doing what I assume she's working on in therapy, which is forgiving, releasing anger, taking accountability, et cetera, Tamara throws a little baby rumor out on national television that Jen cheated on Ryan and compared her to Norman Bates himself.

Speaker 20 But before you judge Tamara Judge, remember the road to healing takes many forms.

Speaker 44 Overall, is Katie going to radar online herself into Lisa Vanderpump territory?

Speaker 38 How will Heather handle this ever-evolving housing market?

Speaker 19 Tune in next week to find out on the Real Housewives of Orange County.

Speaker 34 The fact that this is two episodes at this damn party that no one is at

Speaker 2 is awesome. I'm really disappointed.

Speaker 13 I loved this episode.

Speaker 2 But like, can we talk about

Speaker 38 it's empty? Tamara walks in.

Speaker 10 No one is around her. No one.
It's so funny.

Speaker 2 They kept showing shots of an empty party.

Speaker 2 The party that, like, for two episodes ago, they wanted us to believe that Heather and Terry are so rich that you're just wasting money on these parties, which we all know they're not paying for.

Speaker 2 Come on, get some, get some fans in the room. Take their phones, you know, like fill up the room.

Speaker 9 Like, was it on like a Tuesday night? I just, where was everyone?

Speaker 13 The vibes of the party did seem weeknight in nature.

Speaker 6 It did seem weak night.

Speaker 45 It seemed like people, like, kids had school in the morning, people had to work.

Speaker 14 She said, I need enough space to be able to chuck ice shot glasses at a gong without people getting hit.

Speaker 2 Can't get sued. Can't get sued.

Speaker 2 Who was Gina and Gretchen? Who was the third person in that group when Gina said to Gretchen, and other person I can't place? When she goes, we all look the same. Jen.
Was it Jen?

Speaker 2 And Jen and Gretchen were like,

Speaker 2 no, we fucking don't.

Speaker 2 Did any of you clock that? I was,

Speaker 2 I was, I was Gretchen and Jen do not think they look like Gina or the rest of the women.

Speaker 13 But then also, you have Gina and Emily saying Gretchen looks like she dips herself in formaldehyde every night.

Speaker 7 No, that's a crazy thing to say about someone.

Speaker 38 Awesome.

Speaker 2 That's crazy.

Speaker 14 And honestly, it was the Barbie filter from 2003 for me and then the emphasis.

Speaker 2 No, but like 2003.

Speaker 17 I was like, what was going on in 2003 with the Barbie filter?

Speaker 2 I don't think we had filters in 2003. We did not.
Do we even have Instagram? No, that's just someone like MySpace.

Speaker 2 And I get it because I'm older. It's like 2003.
it's like oh that wasn't that long ago and they're like no that was 20 years ago it was 20 plus do your math yeah do the math

Speaker 2 yeah Gina's crushing it I do love Gina as a real estate like I don't think I mean props to her like that's a real 10 million what'd she say last year I don't know what I don't know what what's commission on um

Speaker 2 but she's making a million dollar side hustle a hundred percent and like they're real business really focused too like her and her boyf her husband or boyfriend fiancé that's the reality TV person I can get behind like someone who's doing something with their life

Speaker 2 in addition to the drama they're bringing to the show. Not just Tamra.

Speaker 8 I love Tamra, the bitch.

Speaker 17 I love Tamra.

Speaker 2 Will be joining us for going deeper tomorrow. I'm very excited about this.

Speaker 2 A very deep look into who is Tamra Judge? Is she good? Is she evil? Is she just... A really great TV star? Is she clocking in? Is she clocking in? Does she clock out? Does she clock out? I feel like.

Speaker 2 I'd like to know.

Speaker 13 I started, I did not finish because sometimes I fall asleep to YouTube video essays about their housewives.

Speaker 13 And I did start one on Tamra Judge, and I didn't finish it, but it was interesting because it was talking about how basically

Speaker 13 Tamra kind of created the blueprint for housewives as we know them.

Speaker 13 Because before Tamra, and correct me if I'm wrong, because I don't know deep OC lore, but it started off as more of just like a true like.

Speaker 13 docuseries right like following these women and then tamara comes in and makes it a game i mean i think tamara was the first one i saw like throw wine in someone's face and i was like oh my god she's also one of the first people to be put on pause

Speaker 6 say so say what you will about tamara judge but she kind of is the blueprint for the modern house and the thing is is like last season i was so anti-tamra i like was so frustrated with the way that she was handling shannon and the whole season i just did not it was a hard watch for me and then i met her at crystal Minkoff's Christmas party, and she's so charming and delightful in person.

Speaker 40 And I was like,

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 9 And I was like, oh my God, she's like, maybe that is just a character.

Speaker 27 And this is the real Tamra.

Speaker 2 And I can respect her craft for being a great TV maker. Where do we separate the line between, say, like that and, say, a Jack Staylor?

Speaker 10 Because he doesn't, his, there is no, like.

Speaker 11 There's no line.

Speaker 9 There is no line.

Speaker 19 His, his, who he is on TV is who he is in real life.

Speaker 2 And they're both awful people. Okay.

Speaker 9 The, the conversation with Jen at the Mexican restaurant, first of all, and her being like,

Speaker 27 well, we all know it wasn't the first time. And Jen going, and you haven't cheated?

Speaker 2 And she's going, and I have. No, she goes, no.
She goes, well, maybe.

Speaker 10 Well, maybe.

Speaker 9 And she goes, but your second time.

Speaker 2 Scandal. It's awesome.

Speaker 7 I mean, the way she's able to just drop.

Speaker 14 a rumor and then it just is like a bomb goes off.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but then it suddenly goes back to her but what about your rumor she goes well maybe moving on like it's not we're not talking about

Speaker 14 me you did it twice with your yoga instruct with your like it's like well that's the best part too is that it's like this like she's like projection personified where she's just like yeah and you don't take accountability for anything jen you don't you start these things and you and i'm like you're literally talking about yourself but then she drops the bomb and it's like yeah wait what were we talking about jen yeah and then she's like and i'm out of here literally

Speaker 14 so i'm gonna leave you with that and i have to go her going up to Katie as Katie's storming out of this party.

Speaker 13 Before she got even inside.

Speaker 2 What's wrong, Angel Pants?

Speaker 2 No, I've always cared about you.

Speaker 3 I don't want to see you crying.

Speaker 14 And I will say, I'm going to give flowers to Katie's husband, Matt. The way that, like, is he didn't get heightened.

Speaker 14 He didn't try to be a housewife, but he was just like, are we being fucking serious right now?

Speaker 2 Yeah. Are you going to be the one to come for her? But why are we mad at Tamra for that?

Speaker 14 Because Tamara's the one that's going around telling everybody.

Speaker 2 And she brought it up.

Speaker 14 But 100%, but that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 14 It's like, I think, I feel like for Katie, she feels like she's very much being not blamed, but like every everything that she's done is now all of a sudden putting in a light that she did something with a certain intention.

Speaker 14 Where I'm like, all of these things Tamara has known about for a span of time and you're choosing to release it now.

Speaker 6 I think that is what reality television is.

Speaker 13 I think that is what makes Tamra a great reality TV star is because she does take this information and she does hold on to it until the exact like night or way that she needs to release it and you can't and like katie trying to pin it on tamara for just telling everyone it's like no you did it like you're like what do you mean you're it's tamara's fault like you're the one who did it but then it's interesting to think about that in context with like miami right with gertie and julia because tamara has the ability to hold and release at the perfect time in a way that it's seen that the audience is okay with and lands in a way that you're like this is good tv but then when julia to hear like gurdy talking about the way julia did it with the cruise i held on to that for a year and a half and then dropping it it doesn't land the same way and i wonder and like that is the true skill of tamara i think because with julia it's the most like

Speaker 27 nothing burger yeah that she's trying to make a storyline you're trying to make the fact that like she like off she wanted to come on the cruise but gurdy's like i didn't want to come on the cruise you asked me to come on the cruise like that's nothing.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Tamara is like, you've recorded her without her knowing, like, and, and you showed it to her arch nemesis, Alexis.

Speaker 14 Like, but don't you feel like if Tamara was like a good friend, then that that would be something that she would need to tell Shannon while litigation is still happening, like that day.

Speaker 14 But instead, she waits a year till cameras pick up to be like, oh, and Katie's awful.

Speaker 2 Because also, this, I don't, I don't think Tamara's a great friend by any means.

Speaker 13 I don't think, and I don't think her goal is to be a good friend on TV.

Speaker 2 I think she's a great TV maker. Yeah.
Yeah. She's a producer.
She's working. Yeah.
She's like, we're work friends. Yeah.
We're not friends friends. We're co-workers.
We're co-workers.

Speaker 2 But we're not friends.

Speaker 14 And she's like, I don't give a fuck if you get fired. So here we go.

Speaker 13 Yeah. What I love about OC,

Speaker 13 because last season for OC didn't super hit for me, but this season I'm watching it and I'm like, oh,

Speaker 13 there's something in the water in Orange County.

Speaker 13 that these women are, and I'm not saying this about them in real life, but the way they're presented on TV, it's almost like horror movie-esque watching it.

Speaker 13 Like, there's, there's this like evil nature there that is so compelling and so like dark and twisted. I don't think they're evil.

Speaker 13 I just think like the show has a tone of like, I don't, it's like the way they're fighting is like so dark.

Speaker 38 It's awesome.

Speaker 14 Cause I think I see what you're saying.

Speaker 14 Like, even like with Tamara bringing Joe, for example, that it's kind of like, there is that, like, you know what you're doing by bringing her, knowing Gretchen's going to be there, knowing slave's going to be there.

Speaker 14 there, but it's like there's a way that Tamara is able to bring them and be like, if you have a problem, then maybe you haven't worked through things. He hasn't been your fiancé in years.

Speaker 14 Why do you care who I'm bringing? Like, you know what I mean? Like, there's a way that it's like almost like a, did I do that?

Speaker 2 It's like the underbelly. I love the way OC makes the men on the show look like clout chasing arm candy people in the best possible way.
Say more.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I mean, the fact that, yeah, like well, Slade's always been like this, though.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 But that's one, you know, like, usually it's, the other way around where like you have these shows and then like women are maybe even unfairly painted as like, you know, like B players in a storyline where here you have these men who are just trying so hard to like latch on to these star-powered women who are famous, who are celebrities.

Speaker 2 And then you have all these like seemingly like clout chasing men. It's just kind of funny.
It's like hilarious.

Speaker 13 Like uniquely orange county phenomena.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 13 Yeah. Which is

Speaker 13 it feels like an undercurrent of a society.

Speaker 2 And the men all seem like they might be white collar criminals.

Speaker 3 Yes.

Speaker 13 It's, it, it is like the blueprint of housewives at its core.

Speaker 2 And I think that's why I'll always, I think I always will side with Tamra over Jen, even if I think that Tamara is being mean or wrong, is that like Tamra's husband seems like a normal guy.

Speaker 2 And Jen's boyfriend, I just, her. taste in men seems so off that I just can't trust Jen's judgment.
Interesting. And I feel like Tamara is, yeah, she's just, she's a professional.

Speaker 2 She is a professional.

Speaker 14 Have we seen Eddie this season? No. No.
Is he not filming?

Speaker 37 He definitely did not want to go to that party. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I don't know. I'm a little concerned that the production is making me question how rich Heather and Terry actually are.

Speaker 13 Oh, with them trying to sell that house.

Speaker 14 Yeah.

Speaker 7 I mean, it's too like the top real estate.

Speaker 2 Well, I also know that they're lying about the

Speaker 2 party. Like, it's just.
Well, they all do that. I know.

Speaker 13 But, like, he also is he is botched yeah so like they have money money no i know they have money but i think they're real money yeah i and i hope so because i love them being rich yeah me too he's a top plastic surgeon he's he's loaded my last thought about oce is that when i saw tamara's daughter making her little beats i was just like as as me personally i was watching it i was like representation is so important Do you make beats?

Speaker 13 Yeah, no, I just meant Tamara's daughter's vibe in general. I was like, and she does.

Speaker 14 She actually makes really good music.

Speaker 2 You do? Yeah. Yeah.
Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah.

Speaker 9 So that's what she was, she's representing you?

Speaker 13 No, she was just kind of an alt-looking girl.

Speaker 2 And I was like, hey, look at that.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 Representation is important.

Speaker 13 Representation matters, you guys. Women's stories matter.

Speaker 40 Women's stories matter.

Speaker 2 Should we move on to Miami and call it a day? Absolutely.

Speaker 9 All right. Well, if you didn't catch this week's episode of The Real Housewives of Miami, here is your rapid recap.

Speaker 16 Julia and Martina are in their boy mom era, which apparently means wearing Chanel sneakers and making enemies with other women.

Speaker 27 It's still not clocking to anyone that Gertie is standing on business.

Speaker 44 Stephanie Sojay is renovating a castle, including a wall for her Birkins and a separate staff entrance.

Speaker 27 Welcome back, Carrie Kuhn in the Gilded Age.

Speaker 47 Kiki and Larsa have to get an extra yacht for their outing because there's so much division in the group.

Speaker 17 Hopefully this will help.

Speaker 33 Spoiler alert, it doesn't.

Speaker 47 Dr.

Speaker 27 Nicole briefly returned to remind everyone that she was Stephanie Sojay before Stephanie Sojay, and then she is too emotionally mature to be in the group.

Speaker 15 And then on the dual boats, Alexia calls herself a Rottweiler, says Stephanie Sojay is a chihuahua.

Speaker 27 This will become drama, so do not forget it.

Speaker 47 Adriana, perhaps inspired by the most recent episode of Below Deck, gets absolutely plastered and rants about Marisol having no talent, dry knees, and an evil soul.

Speaker 9 Alexia tells Gertie that a dick pic would have been better to display on screen at an event than text messages from Julia.

Speaker 19 But somehow, Gertie is still the villain.

Speaker 27 Interesting. Overall, is Kiki the most beautiful woman in the world? Will anyone be nice to Gertie?

Speaker 47 Who even cares about Martina's Chanel sneakers?

Speaker 19 Find out next week on The Real Housewives of Miami.

Speaker 2 Chinese.

Speaker 14 Such an interesting thing to come for.

Speaker 27 It's giving,

Speaker 19 you smell like hospital.

Speaker 14 You smell like hospital.

Speaker 2 No. Did you see that Dr.
Nicole sold her beach house Miami mansion for like $40 million or Robbie? The Star Island one? Yeah.

Speaker 14 No, like she's rich enough to like live on Star Island.

Speaker 2 Like she's. Well, she sold the house for 40 mil.

Speaker 13 To the guy with the movie with a monkey playing.

Speaker 14 And she's comparing, she's like, you know, private jets. Like the fact that like these two women, like they literally got rid of one and then brought in another one that is exactly the same.

Speaker 2 I want to be rich enough to sell a house to a

Speaker 2 British superstar. A British superstar.
Yeah.

Speaker 13 Maybe you can sell one to PK.

Speaker 2 I don't think. I bet he's in the market.
I would need him to have a co-assigner. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 12 I don't know if he can get that loan.

Speaker 2 I feel like he'd be like, here's an IOU. Yeah.

Speaker 13 The whole dual boat thing was so funny to me because they were literally on the same boat still.

Speaker 14 Well, it wasn't even a dual boat. It was literally like they connected them.
They tied them together and they're just floating in the middle of the ocean.

Speaker 13 So what was the intention by the two? Yeah.

Speaker 2 You're all hanging out together.

Speaker 37 Literally, but also, Adriana, like getting

Speaker 2 so drunk.

Speaker 13 You know, she does not remember a single word she said about Marisol.

Speaker 14 Not at all, but it's also like the second she gets a little tipsy, it's just like sees red. And Marisol's like, I'm just minding my own business.

Speaker 13 Literally. And it's crazy how Marisol can drink all day.

Speaker 2 I feel like I now, with reality TV, I need like

Speaker 2 which shows include blacked out drunk people and which shows actually have like drinking rules. Because nowadays, I feel like there's different franchises with different rules.

Speaker 2 And it matters. And it matters.

Speaker 2 I want to know if you're hammered. Yeah.
I need to know if you're blacked out. Or I need to know if like

Speaker 2 you get one drink a day or like one drink an hour. Is this your behavior?

Speaker 14 Or is this your behavior?

Speaker 2 Drunken persona.

Speaker 13 I will say, I don't think, I think Miami, I think the culture of Miami is they're drinking.

Speaker 14 And then Alexia calling herself a Rottweiler to like shut down Stephanie third day. And then later on, Stephanie's like, calls her like a Rottweiler.

Speaker 2 She's like, what did you call me?

Speaker 32 Why did you say that?

Speaker 14 Why is she talking about me? And it was just like, she's so funny. She's so me.

Speaker 13 The thing about, it's so fun that, like, rarely do I ever like agree like morally with Alexia. Don't care.
I'm always going to be on her side. Really?

Speaker 2 She's

Speaker 2 but no. I know she's wrong.

Speaker 13 Okay. And I like, with the gurdy stuff and all the other, like, I'm obviously like team gurdy, whatever, but I'm never mad at Alexia.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 13 I'm just entertained by her.

Speaker 14 I'm just sad for Gertie still because it's like, I feel like they're all lecturing her about like what she should have done and how she went about it.

Speaker 14 But it's like to what she said when she was on our show is that

Speaker 14 nobody's listening to her.

Speaker 13 No, they literally like she, she is truly just telling them exactly what happened. And then even in this, they were like, did you read, the producers were like, did you read the text messages?

Speaker 13 And they were like, no. No.

Speaker 14 Larsa's like, I didn't have the time.

Speaker 13 But then they're like, that's the most evil thing you can do.

Speaker 45 There was a lot.

Speaker 2 Yeah. But I'm like, you can't say it's the most evil thing you could do if you don't know.

Speaker 2 Did you even read a paragraph?

Speaker 2 It's the most evil thing I could do. Yeah.
I didn't read it.

Speaker 13 Sorry that, hey, happy for you or sorry that happened.

Speaker 14 And I also want to be rich enough to be renovating a castle.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 13 I really hope she doesn't make it ugly.

Speaker 14 What did she say it was like 20,000 square feet?

Speaker 13 Yeah. But then she said the original one was too Persian.

Speaker 39 And I was like, what is that supposed to mean?

Speaker 14 Well, she's married.

Speaker 2 I know. Yeah.
But.

Speaker 2 Means

Speaker 2 he's married?

Speaker 14 She's married to a Persian man.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 14 So it's like the original house was his first wife's.

Speaker 25 Yeah.

Speaker 14 And then she was like, I will move in, but we're literally demolishing the entire thing. Not a child.

Speaker 4 She can't just talk shit about the ex-wife.

Speaker 2 Wow. She has to talk shit about a whole culture.
Exactly. That was my.

Speaker 13 Well, at first, she was like, I want a new house, so it doesn't remind me of the ex-wife. But then she was like, and it was just way too Persian.

Speaker 37 And I was like, you didn't need to put that in there.

Speaker 24 You didn't need to show that in. You didn't need to say that, Stephanie.

Speaker 2 Okay. Well, that will do it for this episode.
Thank you guys for listening. And thank you to our guests, Bailey Brown and Rachel Reccia for joining our show.

Speaker 2 Don't forget, tomorrow we have a Grand Slam going deeper with iconic housewife, Tamara Judge. I'm very much looking forward to that conversation.
I hope you are as well. That will be tomorrow.

Speaker 2 And then Thursday, we have another jam-packed episode for you. Clayton Eckhart is scheduled to appear.
I think he's feeling a certain way about Perfect Match.

Speaker 2 So hopefully he comes on and shares his side of the story. Also, Hannah Godwin from Bachelor in Paradise.

Speaker 2 and she is with us to talk about all things reality TV, get a little update on her life, but she's watching all the shows we are, and she'll be joining us talking with us all about it.

Speaker 2 That is this week. We'll see you then.
Bye-bye.

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