E950 - Love Island USA w/ Belle-A, The Valley, Bachelor in Paradise Cast, Brit Eady’s Lawsuit & Next Gen NYC

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What's going on, everybody?

Welcome back to another exciting episode of the Vile Files Reality Recap Edition.

I'm your host, Nick, and boy, do we have a jam-packed episode for you today?

The iconic Belle Dasha joins the Vile Files.

Bella from Love Island.

However you refer to her, she is with us today fresh off of her premature exit on Love Island she she came serving she came in hot and she gave us some some a lot of juicy BTS little tea and excited for you all to hear that we will be breaking down the past few episodes of Love Island as well like Ace I don't know man I'm I'm a little nervous for Shelly is too I don't know I think they might be not a fan I think they might be in cahoots I don't know we got uh what do we got we got some valley talk Bachelor in Paradise news.

Bachelor in Paradise released their very unimpressive cast.

So yeah, just no star power.

I mean, they were like, our star, Dale Moss.

And it was like, really?

I realize they haven't announced this person, but this person will be entering their villa, so to speak.

I'm assuming early, who I think is the biggest star of their cast.

And I don't know why.

I mean, already a huge miss by the producers by not putting this person in the OG cast.

Yeah.

Because it's, it's just, it's lacking star power.

You know, like Andrew and Justin are their biggest stars and they're from several seasons ago.

And that's not how they should be doing it.

We'll watch it.

We certainly, we're rooting for them.

But

I have my concerns.

We we shall see.

Many of you have already listened to the Sherry Papini episode that dropped yesterday.

It is certainly a doozy.

Check it out.

If you haven't,

if you are a true crime junkie, you certainly know what we're talking about.

And if you dabble in true crime, it's certainly an episode you will not want to miss.

A complicated, messy character.

You know, it was.

I have to say, I do have to give us props because it's

literally because it's like, it's, it's hard to interview someone from, like, I give props to a bunch of like journalists, you know, like news anchors, like people who interview people.

without having any sort of opinion, you know, trying to like be as unbiased as possible.

And I think we're not having an opinion, but trying to go in

to not show that opinion.

Yeah.

Um, yeah, I'm great.

I'm grateful for our opportunity to obviously have this show for a lot of different reasons and our ability to interview

fascinating and even sometimes controversial people to see if there's more to the story.

And being able to storytell on this show is something I think we enjoy the most.

But she is certainly a complicated character.

It is definitely a weird vibe in the room.

I'll say that much.

Interviewing her.

She, I think she, I think she felt my

Nick's always bad cop.

I'm always good cop.

I don't know if you were a good cop, but like you definitely were offering more

opportunity for Grace than I was.

I just, you know, when she started bringing up all the people in the neighborhood, like, I, it just, you gotta listen to it.

It's about, go listen.

Leia, have you ever left Louis

for like a weekend?

Gone on a trip.

Like a trip.

Yeah.

Like, has he ever spent a year?

Like on a park bench, you know?

Yeah, just like in a hotel room and said, peace.

No, no, I haven't.

You haven't.

Well, we obviously like don't, we go on, you know, vacations, just Nick and I, very, you know, not often.

But we're back in Vancouver, clearly, for

work.

And we are coming back for only two days.

And so we were like, mom, River, you just stay at the house.

Like, we don't need to bring all of you out here.

And last night we sleep with the Nana on, obviously, like listening to River in her room.

And I wake up, she's screaming, crying.

And I'm like, oh my God.

Oh, my God.

My mom comes in.

My mom gets her.

She like takes her out of the room, I guess, like into her room because she was like scared I was going to hear it.

And then I like can hear it far enough in the back.

And then she comes back into River's room.

She starts rocking her.

And I'm like through the nanet being like,

like trying to calm her down through the, through the monitor.

And it's just, it's like, I think it's getting hard.

It's tough.

It's getting hard.

Shout out Nanet, though.

You know, helping us stay connected to our daughter.

This morning, because I'm the one who usually wakes up and gets River out of bed.

This morning I woke up to hearing River saying, dada, like calling me, like, dada.

Like, I'm ready to get up.

And I was just like, broke my heart.

I couldn't go get up and get her.

It's like my favorite part of the day, waking up and greeting my daughter.

I do have a question, actually.

So when you talk to your babies over like the camera or the nanit, does that scare them?

Because I've seen the videos where babies think it's like a ghost or like a demon or someone talking to them.

I don't think she knows what a ghost and or demon is.

Thankfully.

She does like look up at the monitor and I'm sure she is very confused.

I think it more so scares like my mom, like whoever's with her.

My scared Natalie.

We told that story where I thought literally someone had hacked into our baby camera and I had unplugged everything and like ran out of the room sobbing.

I definitely, it was definitely my confusion.

This was Nick going, hello.

I was like, I'm out.

But, you know, like River, she's definitely not an iPad baby, but like, she is a FaceTime baby.

You know, we FaceTime my parents often.

Nally FaceTimes Chambliss or her mom when she's out of town.

You know, and obviously the few times we have left River with Natalie's mom, we will FaceTime her a lot.

So she certainly is comfortable with like understanding, you know, we're behind the screen or talking on the phone.

River loves to pretend she's taking taking phone calls with anything that she can find remote, anything is hello up to her ear.

So cute.

She's a genius.

It's really cute.

Yeah.

Which brings us to Olivia Munn doesn't let her kids watch Miss Rachel.

She said, I know kids love Miss Rachel, but the thing is, if I can't watch it, I'm not going to spend the rest of my life going crazy.

These kids' shows drive me crazy.

Which honestly is so valid.

Like, if you're going to have to sit in the room and like fold laundry and have it on the TV, like, if you can't stand it, then, like, yeah, sorry.

Really?

I don't.

I mean, listen, funny anecdote, but like, how serious is this take?

Is it like, if anything, she doesn't enjoy?

Because, like, I think Olivia is just saying that it's a little annoying.

It's like, colors, yellow, orange.

And like, I'm good.

So is all of Rivers' like little toys and music that you buy her and she presses and it drives us crazy.

Like, we take that.

Plays for like 10 seconds.

This is a 45-minute episode.

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We have lots to show you.

No, I mean,

her quote, though, is saying that her son asked for blues clues recently, and she says, I don't know who showed him blues clues, but they are on my shit list now.

I said, hell no, not in my house.

What is she showing you?

She raised me.

There's so many kid shows out there.

They're all annoying.

She said, I put on Tom Holland's Spider-Man Homecoming.

And I was like, if you want to watch the real life ones, then we can watch that.

It might be a little too old for him, but I can't take the cartoons.

Honestly,

bring back Barney.

I can't wait to re-watch SpongeBob, you guys.

Oh, that'll be fun.

Yeah.

You can.

A lot of kids weren't allowed to watch it all the time.

Wait, my nieces are like not allowed to watch SpongeBob.

Is that, has it been?

I wasn't allowed to.

I hate and not allowed to watch SpongeBob Kid.

I'm.

You weren't.

Your family wasn't either, right?

I wouldn't have been allowed to watch SpongeBob, but we didn't even have cable, so that wasn't even an option.

But like, my parents were definitely anti those shows.

I mean, a lot of those shows are embedded with like adult humor.

And like, I definitely don't want River watching shows that have like kids like talk about so many of like the Nickelodeon Disney shows.

Like parents are stupid and kids are smart.

And I'm not down for that.

Or like Disney teaches their kids not to respect like your elders.

Or it's like mischievous kids like always like making messes or like doing crazy experiments.

And it's like, can you just go outside and play with rocks?

I mean, I watched all those shows.

I turned out fine.

Have you like started Louis on any on any like screen time or movies or like have you introduced any of that to him yet no none of that yet but but definitely a lot of face time he loves face timing like the second my mom gets on there he laughs hysterically he finds it so i have every single barney dvd and i will happily let you i do not have a dvd player literally what definitely do not have a dvd player

look i'll bring you a dvd

do not have a cassette player i've been offered those where are these dvds justin

i was obsessed with barney growing up, and I think Barney taught me a lot.

I had a personalized Barney VHS tape that, like, that was like, it's like said my birthday.

And by personalized, like, the, the, the, it was like a birthday present for me.

Are you familiar with his content?

It was like, you can, like, it was like, you could put, or maybe it was Dora.

It was like Dora or something where it's a DD itself.

It was a VHS.

It wasn't even a DVD.

And it was like, I think it was like, you can probably order it online or something.

I had a birthday one too, and he sings happy birthday to you.

That's probably worth a lot of money nowadays.

I bet you could get on eBay.

It was a cameo.

OG cameo.

It It was a cameo.

OG cameo.

So what is this Gypsy Rose headline?

Is like, she's, is she doing something wrong?

Is the salon trolling her?

So I kind of went down like a rabbit hole because basically, so Gypsy Rose was just doing a teddy bear brand like trend.

She was dying her hair.

So she went to a hair store to buy the stuff, but she didn't know that the store was for like estheticians only.

So you needed a license to shop there.

Okay.

But the person that was like working that shift or whatever let her still buy the stuff.

So she posted it, like bought bought the products, here's everything.

Then the company came out and responded being like, we proudly support licensed beauty pros in the professional beauty industry, though we are in the initial stages of our investigation.

We found recently that a celebrity was able to shop in one of our B2B stores.

Please know we are conducting a thorough investigation and we'll put appropriate measures in place to ensure it does not happen again.

Oh my God.

And then she had to respond to the comment being like, I apologize.

I didn't know.

I was unaware.

The lady like, let me know and let me just complete my purchase, but like noted.

And like now people speculate the person was fired so it's like it's just a random like what why are they being so like

intense about it we're conducting a thorough investigation it's like i don't know maybe have a key code scanning to get in the front door right yeah they take themselves very seriously yeah like most beauty supply places it's like they get a discount for being they do a salon owner or like a esthetician but i'm like they usually charge people just like the normal price they don't though so specific stores because i have my contact like you get the products for so much cheaper but it's supposed to like benefit people that have salons that's what i'm saying like she should have had it to give a number it's giving wedding industry where they pretend that they can do something that no one else can do and they like you know and keep it insulated and have all these rules to like these are our rules yeah just because like this is how it is you know i can't possibly do that so anyways did you see this uh

gypsy rose did you see uh sarah jessica parker and like how she interacts with fans i did not Have you seen this?

No.

Oh, my goodness.

So

this woman came up to her and just said,

can I take a photo of you?

Of you?

Or with you?

There's a huge difference.

This says, can I take your picture?

See, that's weird.

Like

when people walk up every blue moon and someone says, can I take a picture with you?

No problem.

Let's do a selfie together.

I'm in the photo.

Someone's standing there and just like, nope, no, I'm just going to take a picture of you is very weird.

Very weird.

I agree.

And I'm I'm like, no, why don't you come?

Why don't you get in it?

You know, I feel like it's usually because, like, maybe they'd feel like they don't look very good.

So they're like, yeah.

You know, I don't know.

But of you and with you are two different things.

So Sarah Jessica Parker explains why she turns down the fan selfie.

She said, Here's what I've been trying to do because I was just at the airport on Friday.

A woman came up to me and she didn't say hello.

She just said, Can I take your picture?

And I said, We didn't even meet.

You didn't even introduce yourself.

What's your name?

After learning the fan's name, Parker then suggested that the two have a conversation rather than taking a photo.

I guarantee you it's going to be so much more meaningful.

But no one's going to believe her.

That's the only issue.

She's going to go home.

She's going to be like, listen to the conversation I have with Sarah Jr.

Parker, and they're going to be like, proof?

And she'd be like, well, yeah, she told me this was more meaningful.

I don't have proof, but

she like, thankfully, finds this article and is like, see, proof.

Literally.

Literally.

No, she's kicking her feet, jumping up and down.

She's so excited for this article.

I'm not a liar.

This article is better than a photo.

It is.

It is.

Because you're aware of that.

Sarah, people get nervous when they meet you.

Sorry if they didn't introduce themselves.

You know, like give them.

I'm sorry.

You didn't even introduce yourself.

Like, okay.

Thanks for the lecture on etiquette.

Jesus.

I agree with her, though.

I agree with her, but I'm also kind of like for someone who doesn't see like famous people a lot or anything, like the muster up the courage to be able to go and star a photo.

Like versus an LA, I'm just like, love your content

it is all pretty it's all predicated on the idea that like they don't like photos taken of them if they're not in like full glam and like have their basically face costume on i don't think sarah jessica parker is like that i think it's it's probably then why wouldn't she take a selfie because i think she's she's getting into this stage of life i feel like where like you've seen her on red carpets where people want to be like oh did you see jenna ortega wearing the dress from and she's like do you want to ask me about something else like i think she's getting to the point in life where she's just kind of like over maybe the sex in the city-ness of it all.

I don't know, but that's kind of what it's giving.

I think she's over the drama.

I mean, she's in and just like that, but that's not sex in the city.

I mean, like, I don't know.

It's just, it's giving, it's giving, like, I mean, listen, I don't know, like, part of being famous is having fans.

Like, and you know, I don't know.

It takes two seconds to take a selfie.

It took her more energy to lecture this fan.

Yeah.

I bet you this fan will never go up to another celebrity ever again.

Or, like, what if she goes up to now?

It's going to be like, hi, my name is

I work for.

The next time she goes up, like, do you just want a picture, bro?

Like, I don't want to have a whole conversation with you.

I'm in a rush.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

The next time she does this, she's going to get the exact opposite lecture.

It's going to be like, listen, I'll take a picture with you.

I don't need your whole life story.

I have to make my flight.

Could you imagine?

She's like, no, Sarah Jessica Parker taught me to do it like this.

And it starts like, yeah, I should train celebrities.

Yeah, where's your proof shows U.S.

weekly a headline?

Oh my God, that's crazy.

I mean, when people come up to us,

no one introduces themselves ever.

And I'm always just like, oh, what's your name?

Because like, again, they're, they're nervous.

They don't know what to say.

Did you see Demi from Mormon Wives spoke out and said why she didn't attend the reunion?

I did see that.

Yeah.

What are your thoughts on that?

She said that she was invited, but that it was short notice.

And the only day they could get the location secured was the day that her and her entire family were going to Disneyland.

Yeah, I mean, I do know people in production have mixed feelings about this.

Like I said before, Demi is in her, in a, in a way, very much a part of the reunion.

And you will have the opportunity to hear from Demi herself in a way.

In a way.

In a way.

Yeah, I mean, you know, listen, like all of these, all of the women of the cast were gifted this opportunity to take their family to Disney.

And they had the opportunity to pick.

whatever date they wanted.

Now, when Demi picked the date versus when the reunion was was scheduled, I don't know.

Obviously taking her word for it.

Disneyland like offered them all to come.

Well, Hulu, you know, ABC Disney, it's part of the family.

I think all of these women were given the opportunity to like go and have a Disney experience with their family.

All of them.

And they could just pick a date.

They could go whenever they wanted.

This happened to be the date.

They were all posting at Disney.

So

this happened to be the date that Demi picked.

I think many of her cast feel that it was not as random as Demi suggested, but you know, I guess that's more.

I mean, how far in advance did she know the date of the filming reunion?

I don't know.

That's, you know, I don't know.

So she took the free Disneyland trip.

She said we had already booked all of our flights and the Airbnb was non-refundable.

And if we know anything about that, that's true.

That's, you know, or I would have moved the trip to be there.

I tried to have production move it to another day and they couldn't swing it.

I don't think anyone in the cast feels like Demi was upset about not being there.

But

got it.

There's a good excuse, is what you're saying.

Yeah, but there's no proof to suggest that her story is untrue.

But you will want to watch the restaurant, I promise you that.

And

Demi is very much addressed.

Did they offer you guys Disneyland tickets since you host?

No, actually.

What the fuck?

What happened with that?

I said, don't offer, please.

Nick was like, actually, I'm allergic.

Sierra and I will.

Sierra and I and Justin will take River.

I'll go.

Absolutely.

Many of you know we've been in Whistler a little bit recently.

And every restaurant in Whistler, when you show up, will ask you if you have any allergies.

Every single, like, you get it, you know, can I have a table for two?

Do you have any food allergies?

No.

And then I asked for no sauce on my burger, and it came with sauce.

And I was like, oh, there's sauce on here.

Can you take it back?

And she kind of looked at me and I was like, I'm allergic.

And I was like, oh, shit.

She was probably like, why didn't you?

Yeah.

I got caught in a lot.

I got caught in a lot.

Don't they do that here too, though?

Not like in Whistler.

I mean, every single restaurant.

It was like part of like.

They definitely should be doing that everywhere.

Yeah, I like that.

I like they get ahead of it.

It's like, do you have any allergies?

Do you not like anything?

Do you like do you want a different server?

Are you not a fan of me?

Do you hate my outfit?

Tell me everything up front so that we don't have to deal with this later.

Yeah.

Surface is really nice in Whistler, I will say, because when I was like hunting down Wi-Fi, Wi-Fi, like I was asking them some outrageous questions.

I was like, is the room facing the north sky with no clouds?

Oh my God.

And they would look at me like, um, you sound crazy, but I'll check.

Like, yeah, like, let me find out for you.

I'm going to go up to the room really quick.

Can you guys just like off the top of your head point north?

No.

Straight in front of me is what I always think.

No, like, can you just like point north?

I can.

Point north right now.

Do you know where north is?

Right.

When you're in a room in a city you're not familiar with, try it.

Point north right now.

I couldn't possibly.

I always think it's right in front of me which i know is definitely wrong no it's well i think about where the i think that's west

i know so i'm like how do we walk walk this way that's west north

never that's south soggy worms yeah but how ironically though north is right in front of me

north is right there yes the boy scout north well i always just think about where the ocean is but if i was somewhere without an ocean and where i grew up i could always i knew the directions for sure

is that some they don't teach that in school like how to read a compass?

I don't think I was able to talk about it.

Well, I grew up next to the Great Lakes, and the Great Lakes were always

east of us.

So I always knew where the lake was relative to where I was.

And so from there, I knew my north, south, south, east, and west.

Yeah.

To Leia's point, if you live near a large body of water and you know what direction that body of water is from you, then it's pretty easy.

Or a landmark, maybe a mountain.

You know,

I'm so bad at

directions.

Geography.

I always call it the wrong one.

I'm always bad.

I always really bad at geology.

So

I'm so bad at geography.

Fuck.

Which one is it?

I tell people that I'm like, I have a way with GPS that I have to use GPS at least three to five times to be able to get someplace to get there without off-memory.

Also, this is a thing too, that people use their GPS and they either like press, like they'll enter in the directions and they might press go to get the voice to tell them or they just look at it and then they keep it on like the map.

I keep it on the map.

I keep it on the map too.

I don't press go.

I don't want to hear her.

At my last job, I worked there for over a year.

And to the day I stopped working there, I used my GPS to get there.

That's why.

Do y'all want to know my biggest pet peeve about Nick?

And I think it's taken over.

Yes.

It's taken over all the rest of us.

Yeah.

Let's hear.

Wait, this is number one.

This is number one.

It's moved its way up.

It's an itch.

It's climbed its way up.

Is it an it?

It's an it.

Oh, wow.

It's an egg.

Wait, wait.

It's an egg.

It pisses me me off.

It boils my blood.

Yeah, go.

What do you think it is?

Should we all get?

Literally, everyone gets.

No, go ahead.

I don't want to out myself.

Okay, Leo, what do you think?

Leo, what do you think it is?

Oh, my God.

I'm not playing this game.

Yeah, I don't suppose it's it.

What do you think it is, Leia?

I know it's not the cabinets.

Yeah, we've moved on from the cabinets.

Like, that's just everything.

I've gotten so used to the fridge being open and microwave being open that it doesn't even phase me.

I'm guessing he has floating in the sea direction.

Yes, it floats him flying up in his seat over the speed bump.

I need to know what it is.

Do you need a drum roll?

Is it like bouncing?

Bouncing walls.

No, no, no.

He does not press the button on the trunk to go to like

for it to shut.

He tries to forcefully open and shut the trunk.

And I'm like, there's a button.

Can I do that too?

Just press the button.

Can I do that too?

He can't.

He never will.

He never never has.

It doesn't.

He's, he's, we're breaking the trunk every single time.

It's like a James Bond car.

It's like hard to find.

It's like, you know, they want it to be aesthetically pleasing.

I don't know what this fucking thing is.

It like cracks and creaks every time he's trying to jam it shut.

I'm like, if you just pressed the button that said close.

It's my toxic masculinity that really takes over and you go like,

yeah, you got to hulk it open.

Anyways, so yeah.

I do the same, Nick.

You do, Justin?

Well, because I'm I'm used to having an old car, so every time I touch someone else's car, I'm like pulling it down, but it's fighting me.

Yeah.

And then I give up.

I give up, but I'm like, oh, didn't get the memo.

Kinick doesn't give up.

That's a difference.

All right.

Well, it's time to get into some love islands.

Starting with your first to leave the island, Bell Dasha, joins us for some hot burning tea.

She was very delightful.

I didn't know what to expect, but she was a ton of fun.

I'm excited for you guys to listen and hear this conversation.

And then coming out of our interview with Bell Dasha, we will break down the past few episodes and figure out our Ace and Shelly playing everyone, including the audience.

And I think you'll find some of Bell Dasha's comments about them very interesting.

Up next, Bell Dasha.

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Bell Dasha!

Welcome to the File Files.

We're so excited about that.

So excited.

Thank you for joining us.

Hi, thank you so much for having me.

Like, are you down for the Bell Dasha name?

Do you know that people are calling you that?

Like, it's kind of an iconic nickname.

Honestly, I feel like my name has like been morphing as an adult, and I'm so here for it.

I love nicknames and I love Bell Dasha.

I feel like it's very elegant and very classy.

So yeah, I'm here for it.

Did you ever expect that to come out of your name going on the show?

Okay.

No, for sure.

Like some people have called me like B-dash before too.

So I was like, you know, Bell Dasha, B-dash.

Like, there's lots of different names for me.

Okay.

Okay.

Have you always had the dash in your name?

Yes.

So, oh, well, kind of.

Sometimes like people will just type Bella, like B-E-L-L-A,

and like that, that works too, you know.

But if we're trying to be

proper about it, then it's, it's with the dash and only with the dash.

Gotta put some respect on that dash.

You heard it here first.

It's with the dash.

It's always been a dash.

Well, Bell Dasha, again, again, we're so excited to have you.

I got to say, I'm sad to see you go.

You and me both.

I thought it was a, you know, as far as like first eliminations, like sometimes, you know, even last season, as popular last season was, I don't remember who was first eliminated.

It's like there's such a long season, but like you really made your mark.

I felt like you were a star in the making.

You were wildly talked about.

You got a ton of screen time.

And then all of a sudden, poof, you're gone.

So sad to see you go, but at least congrats on like in your limited time making such an impact on the show.

Thank you so much.

And I will say that that's definitely not how I was feeling through this whole process.

I felt like I was very small and like my voice was very silenced and I wasn't feeling seen.

And I think like it really did take a minute for me to finally break out of my shell.

And I felt like people got to see my boundaries, but people didn't get to see my character and there's so much more to me than just my boundaries you know okay well no doubt no doubt uh and that's why we're excited for you to join with us we're hoping to get to know you a little bit better i think there was a little surprise early on uh when you swerved for the first kiss and you're like i don't kiss in the first date and we were like do you know what show you signed up for beldasha but in all seriousness like how long were you planning on kissing someone like given just like these the games and the contests there seemed to be like full-on makeouts you know they they really push those those uh those limits pretty quickly so like what was your plan going in or if you had a plan at all and what changed that um so I've always had this rule like no kissing on the first date and to be honest I didn't know what I was going to do until it really came down to it on the first day

I have imagined because it is love island and I know that's what I signed up for.

I knew that there was a big possibility that that would arise.

And I just knew that I wanted to stay true to who I am and the boundaries that I've set, not just on the outside world, but even in this unfamiliar environment, I knew that I still had to be who I am in there too.

So yeah, I definitely knew that I was gonna face that.

But on the first day, it was a little wild.

And honestly, I think it it was a really great opportunity to like lay it down.

Like, hey, this is who I am.

This is what I'm about.

Maybe they don't understand it in that moment.

But hey, like, come find out why.

I think it also made that challenge like that more fun because it was like, whoa, here she is, you know?

I think one of my fellow islanders was like, oh, is this prom?

And I'm like, yeah, that does feel a little bit like prom right now.

Yeah.

I know it was like a quick, I'm sure it was all like a blink in the eye, but in the limited time time of the men that you kissed, who was the best kisser?

Oh, I'm going to be so honest and say that I completely blanked out during the challenge.

And one thing like people don't see is there was like popcorn in my mouth.

I was just being like exchanged between guy to guy.

We were all like slimy and gross.

And there was a lot of adrenaline.

I was obviously very nervous because it was the first time I was going to be kissing these guys.

And I was like, oh, this is kind of a, you know, a unique situation.

I would never in the outside world kiss four guys in one day.

So I definitely stepped out of my comfort zone for that one.

Period.

Hell yeah.

Where is your accent from?

I must say.

My accent.

Yes.

Oh,

I don't think I have one, but I will say I am first-generation American.

My mom was born in the Philippines, and I have spent a lot of my time in my adult life around like native Hawaiians.

So I feel like maybe it's just like bits and pieces from like Philippines, Hawaii,

and then like just the slang of Oregonians and the slang of maybe online.

TikTok.

No,

I think like when I'm around my my local friends in Hawaii like it comes out a lot thicker.

Sure.

But then when I'm around other people who maybe don't have as thick of an accent, then I feel like I revert to like

no accent.

No, I don't know.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I'm the same way.

I'm from the South.

And when I talk to people not from the South, I have this voice.

And then when I'm back home, I am very, very Southern.

So I totally understand.

Did you, in the moment of the elimination, that how that whole process went where

Nick took you up to Soul Ties.

He asked you to like run back, fourth base.

And then he's there giving that speech.

And he's like, when we shared that moment, and then he pauses.

Like, did any of that looking back?

Did you feel manipulated at any moment?

Oh, 100%.

Yes.

I will preface this by saying that there is no love lost.

And I will never drag Nick for what he did, but he absolutely did make it seem like he might have picked me that night.

And also, what the viewers haven't really seen is like the conversations that were shown between Nick and I were the most basic of like surface level conversations.

We had deeper conversations.

We had a deeper connection.

And, you know, he did have a solid connection between Sierra and I.

And I don't blame him being stuck in between two tens.

Like this is not a real world problem for Nick.

So I think that he was eating it up.

And I definitely called him out.

by saying, I think it's stroking your ego a little bit.

So he felt like that wasn't the case for for him.

But I genuinely think it was a little difficult.

And I did encourage him to explore all the connections and test them to the deepest level.

And that's exactly what he did.

And ultimately he chose Sierra.

And I'm not a sore loser.

I'm so happy for them.

I think Sierra is a lovely, lovely person.

But was I being misled the entire process?

Absolutely.

Otherwise, I wouldn't have.

I would have backed off, you know?

And watching back, it really frustrates me because I feel like his mind was made up since the moment he met Sierra.

So like, that's okay, but communicate that with me, you know?

And that's exactly what he didn't do.

And that's all I asked from him since day one.

If there, if Nick was a little bit more upfront with the way he was leaning, who would you have pursued?

and at least explored?

Because it's so early, right?

Like, you know, you barely even knew Nick.

For all you know, like spending two more days there, you could have realized, oh shit, like Charlie and I are like, we're vibing.

Okay, another, another little side detail.

Um, I had amazing chats with the guys in the villa, and the conversations that were shown were unfortunately with, I love Charlie as a person, he's hilarious, but that was the least of my connections in that villa.

How funny.

Why does no one like Charlie?

I feel like he's like, Charlie, he's great, but i just got like bestie vibes from him all right and i said that too but that didn't make the cut

um so the real tea

taylor and i actually had this like

undeniable chemistry that wasn't ever shown

and if anybody else saved me that night it would have been taylor but for me I am such a girl's girl and being a girls girl in that villa is something that's very difficult to do because Alandria, she was my other girl.

Huda and Elandria were my besties in there.

And I think my loyalty to Alandria really, really got in the way of me fully exploring what could have been there with Taylor and I.

Okay.

It must have been easier to be dumped by Nick while he has a massive pimple on his face, no?

Not the pimple.

Like,

there was any part of you who's like, you know what?

Honestly, send me home.

Send me home.

I don't.

No, we all break out sometimes.

And obviously he was dealing with a very stressful situation.

So it is so funny.

Why did you offer him a pimple patch, you know, like a little star?

Had one on all throughout the day, but I guess he took it off for the recovery.

I don't know.

I don't know what that patch is.

He shouldn't have.

He shouldn't have.

That's crazy.

But no, I will say, like.

Taylor, he always had a language.

Excuse me.

He always had Elangria in one hand and he would have me in the other.

He would help me up and down the stairs.

He would bring me coffee every single morning.

He would ask if I wanted breakfast.

He just like had my back.

Like even during the recoupling announcement, he grabbed my hand and held on so tight and was like, like everything's going to be okay, you know?

So I, and the last thing he told me was, I'm going to be checking up on you on the outside world.

Okay.

If it wasn't Nick, it would have been Taylor.

Okay.

All right.

Don't tell anyone that.

Save us.

Save that for us.

Look at the exclusive.

Beldasha, blink twice if you would, if there's any chance you show up at Casa Moore.

I wish I could blink 10 times.

That would be

crazy.

I feel like it would be such a sick storyline.

Like this little shy girl comes in and then finally breaks out of her shell.

Right.

See, she's all warmed up.

Like, dumb.

she's ready to go.

She's ready to bring the heat.

She's going to do whatever it takes to get into that villa.

She's not going to have her girls clouding her judgment.

But, and, and, you'll be able to see that.

That's going to be rainless.

You shouldn't watch this.

You'll be able to see all the girls, and then you'll go back and, like, Huda and Elandria are still your girl.

So you'll be like, let me tell you the actual tea that they're not going to tell you.

Could be good.

It could be good.

I think it could be wild.

So, you know, producers, if the opportunity arises,

right, right, right, right, right.

We are so down for that for that to happen.

Uh, who is the which of the guys makes the best breakfast?

Okay, this is so funny because it was a huge mystery the entire time of who was making the breakfast.

Because I know that the guys would take credit for somebody else's work, but watching back, I'm seeing that Ace is the first one in the kitchen.

He's the one scrambling all the eggs, he's the one like putting all of the the beautiful like assortments on the plate.

I am actually a very simple girl and I don't eat breakfast very much.

So I love a good little peanut butter toast.

And Nick did make me my peanut butter toast.

I want to give him credit for that.

And he even like cut it up for me, which was very sweet.

But Ace made me breakfast one day and I felt bad because I barely touched it.

It was like too pretty to eat.

You know, he gave me the fruit.

He gave me the avo toast.

He gave me the beautifully scrambled eggs and i barely touched it why do you feel like uh ace and shelly didn't uh hook up that or at least like match or pick each other because it felt like i i felt like that was the direction he was going watching it back they they both seemed to really connect on a deep level like what do you feel like that was all about genuinely i think they could be end game i'm gonna be so honest i don't know how they haven't just clung on to each other because their connection is undeniable And they actually like they've met before.

And them being in the same place at the same time again in this entire process, I feel like that's fake.

It definitely means something.

Shelly is such a beautiful person inside and out, truly, in the way she carries herself.

And Ace, he's there and he is, he's playing the game for sure.

You know, he's getting to know everybody, but I think it's only fair.

And he's testing every single one of his connections.

And I feel like he's doing that so that he can potentially just go all in on Shelly and not be thinking of anybody else in the back of his mind.

He kind of read my mind in Beldash.

I like, I feel like, I don't know, Ace feels like he has this figured out.

I feel like he knows what he's doing.

He's like, maybe like, he's watched the show.

He's like, he's trying to play chess while everyone's playing checkers.

And he's like, you know what?

I'm going to, I'm going to wait.

You know, like, I feel he has a quiet confidence about him.

And I, I, I thought, you know, maybe they'll wait until they need to play that game.

To that point, do you feel like Huda and Jeremiah are like a little too hot, too heavy,

too soon?

Okay.

So that is something that has scared me a little bit because Huda has become my best friend in that villa and Jeremiah has become like my big brother and my wingman.

And like I have confided in both of them so very much.

It terrifies me that they just have

tunnel vision for each other because they're not testing that connection.

And I'm a little afraid that, you know, maybe when CASA comes around and somebody who is just Jeremiah's type, I'm not saying Huda's not, but if this other Latina with an accent walks in knowing exactly what she wants and it's Jeremiah, and Huda is not going to be there to be in the back of his mind, it does scare me a little bit that he might fold.

And I feel like Huda, as much as she said, she's not writing anybody off, she has.

And so

it scares me because I don't think there would be another connection to save her.

Yeah.

And so I really genuinely do have high hopes for them.

And I hope that they make it to the end because they are so beautiful and they have grown a lot in such a short, a short amount of time that I think they do have so much potential in the outside world too.

But I'm a little nervous for it for them for sure.

Yeah.

Did you ever check huda on her reaction to the bombshell coming in and participating in the challenge and pulling jeremy just playing the game was there ever a moment where because she had a very like reaction she was like she's messy i don't like her she's not a good person did you ever have any conversation with her absolutely yeah no huda confides in me and she she did me more than anybody else.

And in that moment, I was there.

I was there to be the friend who validated her feelings, but also letting her know like, hey, these girls are coming in here and they deserve a spot in this villa just as much as you and I do.

And they're going to do anything and everything they can to find those connections because they deserve that.

And I did let her know that.

And after she slept on that for a little bit, something that the viewers didn't get to see is she owned her actions up and down like four or five times over to Amaya.

And so, yeah, I was there to like feed into her delusions a little bit and just like validate her because sometimes in the moment, you don't need somebody telling you that you're just in the dead wrong.

But I did have a little happy, medium balance of letting her know that, hey, your feelings are valid.

But hey, like, let's keep an open mind and an open heart and give these girls a warm welcome like they do deserve.

Okay.

All right.

Did you catch the part?

Cause it sounds like you watched it back.

Did you catch the part where Jeremiah kind of caught himself and was like, if we win, which kind of gave like, are you here to win?

Are you here to fall in love?

And then he kind of like corrected himself a little bit.

Being around them,

I don't know.

Unless he really, really, really is dedicated to the bit.

I would like, I don't see that with him.

Like, I don't think he's just here to win.

I want to believe better

in him than that because he just does seem so genuinely whipped for her.

And maybe it is delusional in my mind to think that, but he really just seems like he wants to see things through with Huda, and he does seem to genuinely care for her.

And

maybe it's just like me wanting them to work out so bad that I don't want that in my mind, but I don't think so.

I don't think that's his whole goal here.

I mean, I'm sure that's slightly in the back of anybody's mind in there.

Like, they everybody wants to get it.

I get it.

That's a good answer.

It's a good answer.

But I don't think that's his whole goal.

Okay.

Okay.

Do did the rest of the group refer to Huda and Jeremiah as mom and dad?

Like Huda keeps telling us that everyone is referring to them as mom and dad?

I think she meant the villa as in me.

I would refer to them as mom and dad.

I was sleeping alone in my bed since day two and their bed is right next to mine.

So I would go and like cuddle up just like.

right with them and they would both be there to like wipe my tears and and you know maybe feed into my delusions as well jeremiah really did become like a little wingman for me and would be like a little spy for me.

So

I definitely called them like mom and dad for sure.

I don't know about anybody else, but

I could say for myself.

I don't know if you heard it in the moment or if you've seen it when you watched it back.

And I don't know if she had any malicious intent.

But when Sierra sat down after that recoupling, knowing you were going home and she looked over at Nick and said, good job.

Did that hurt your feelings?

It didn't really

rub me the right way when she said that.

To be honest with you, this is, this is tough because Sierra and I, we did develop a friendship and she is just the sweetest person on the inside and out.

And like I said, I do understand why Nick would be so torn between us, but there were moments that I didn't know happen,

like her kind of like confiding in the other girls, saying how she was feeling, then telling Nick how she was like uneasy about me and things like that, that I never got.

Yeah.

So I don't know, seeing all of the conversations being held behind closed doors, that definitely opens up my mind a little bit more.

But once again, we're all there for the same reason.

And I don't think she meant any malicious intent.

Like, what do you say after that?

Like, I'm so happy you chose me.

Like, I don't know.

I don't know what I would say either.

So I i don't think she meant any ill intentions were you were you uh do you think she should have had more of a reaction because it seemed like she wasn't all that bothered when she found out that you and nick had that sexy makeout that you did after she picked and she she almost tried to blow it off do you feel like she's just like kind of trying to forget about it or like yeah what did you think of that reaction i think

in this point i think she really wants to see it through with him and like i i kind of want to put myself myself in her shoes and wonder how I would react as well.

Cause I didn't know what was happening.

And I didn't know they shared that moment in the photo booth like that.

Five minutes after we had our moment in Soul Ties.

That was diabolical.

I mean, that saliva was still up in that mouth of his.

That was crazy.

Yeah.

I'm like, oh, I feel like maybe I kissed Sierra too.

Like, the saliva is still there.

But, like, it's so early on, and oh, y'all want some tea?

only if you promise only if you promise to save it for us okay okay okay

nick has been in an open relationship before and that was one of the first things he told me within our first conversation and i don't know why i didn't raise a red flag to that right away but i feel like him having sierra and i maybe gave him a little bit of a taste from his past yeah he like felt right at home

yeah this man wasn't homesick at all.

All right.

One last question before we have to let you go, Bella, about Bella Dash.

And I want to thank you.

You've been so generous and we love you.

Thank you so much for taking the time.

Having been on your side of things, I've realized watching back that like some people like look different on TV than they do in person.

Some people look kind of, they look hotter.

Some people look better in person or better on TV.

What is your opinion, having seen people on from behind the screen, having met them in person?

Like is Jeremiah as smoking hot as he looks on the on our TV?

Oh, for sure.

Jeremiah's fine and he knows he's fine.

And Huda is absolutely stunning.

She looks exactly like she does in person, like on screen as well.

So I don't know.

I think that.

I thought that going into this that maybe people do look a lot better on screen.

But now being on both sides of it, I don't think there were any catfishes there whatsoever.

Maybe I was.

No.

no but i think that everybody really was just like they were good looking through and through and do you think like one more like charlie like what i know you mentioned you guys were just friends but like i he seems like a you know taller tall dark and handsome good looking guy and it really felt like all you women were just more like

I don't know what to say to this one.

I feel like maybe it's just the energy that he brings that just says friend all over it.

But you know what?

He

got a little more

from Hannah.

And that's what matters.

I think that everything happens for a reason.

And I think Hannah and Charlie were placed in the villa at the times they were absolutely to like find each other.

Hannah didn't have to fight any girl for her man.

True.

And they deserve each other.

I don't know how well the connection is going to hold up because I feel like they are very infatuated with each other right now and they are in the little honeymoon phase, which is super fun, light and flirty.

But it will be interesting to see what happens when a hot new male bombshell walks through those doors gunning for Hannah.

Because Charlie wasn't fully on Hannah's radar until she had a conversation with him.

Okay.

I know I'm very excited for Caso Moore.

I feel like we're going to see a lot of cracks.

Well, I hope we see you there.

And we hope we see you there.

We hope we see you there.

I hope you make an appearance on movie night.

Beldasha, thank you so much.

Congratulations on what was short, but certainly an impactful time on Love Island.

And congratulations on all your success.

Excited to see more of you.

Thank you for your time and for the tea.

Thank you guys so much.

I feel blessed to be here.

And I hope you have a wonderful rest of your day.

Thank you, YouTube.

Bye-bye.

Bye-bye.

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Okay, what did we think?

What a sweetheart.

She's the best.

Yeah, I'm

more sad that she left after interviewing with her.

She just needed a warm-up, you know?

That's why I think she's going to be really great and cost that more.

I don't think they would have let us interviewed her if she was coming back.

I'm sad that they didn't show us more of her and Taylor's relationship.

Yeah.

What?

That is interesting.

Her being like, if Nick didn't, like, like, Taylor would have saved me, which is like, interesting.

Because we've seen him this far be like, I don't have a physical connection with Alandrea.

So, like, I wonder if that was with.

Not Nick leading with he's been in an open relationship is like, if it's, if, if, if that was like some kind of asset on Love Island.

He's like, don't worry, I'm used to dating multiple women.

That's cool.

I'm good.

Oh, thank God.

And then was the only one

was the only one in a love triangle.

Like,

it's like clearly didn't know how to handle it.

Right.

And then you have Austin on the complete opposite end that's just like, I'm in a love triangle and I don't want to be here.

Have y'all seen, I was telling Nick about it last night, this trend on TikTok that's like,

I wish Love Island was like the Hunger Games and we could drop in like survival kits for them.

And they were like, for Huda, we're dropping her some mood stabilizers.

We're dropping Nick pimple patches.

For Nick pimple patches.

For Jeremiah said a t-shirt that says, I'm not the stepfather.

I'm the father that stepped up.

Oh my God.

I have a theory, though.

What?

I think Ace is into Huda.

Really?

Okay.

I do.

I can kind of see that because he really is focused on their relationship.

Really, really focusing too much on their relationship.

He really doesn't want to.

That's an interesting theory, but you don't think the theory that...

He's trying to get into Jeremiah's head.

I think he's in it to win it more than anyone else.

And by win it, I mean like win, not like fall in love or meet a person.

I don't know.

It just seems a little shady that the established influencer YouTube star who found his way onto a reality TV show is already a bit of a red flag.

And then the one lady that he's already met in person, how long or how much, whether it was a brief, you know, meetup or they actually knew each other.

I don't know.

And then...

They just seem like they're playing everyone.

Like that was so messed up to like match with Amaya and then immediately be like, I'm all for like standing up for expectations and boundaries and just like establishing where you stand.

But he was like, oh, anyways, so excited to get to know you, but like, don't touch me.

Don't look at me.

Don't talk to me.

Like, I definitely want to date other people.

That was babe.

It was just like, it was just mean.

That's like, don't you dare expect me to say goodnight to you.

Yeah.

It was just like, whoa.

It's like, and the way he like talks down to some of these women when he had a confrontation with her, he's like, so this is how it's going to go.

I'm going to talk.

You're going to talk.

We're going to hear.

It's just like, bro, like, I don't know.

Get over yourself.

Like, and again, like, I don't know.

It's just kind of given Napoleon.

It's just, I don't know.

It's a little too aggressive.

It's very condescending.

Yeah.

He's also like really just, it's such a slap in the face to Austin, him planning this yoga date, like right in front of his face.

It's like, okay, I get it.

You can be into Shelly.

We're only a couple days in, but just tell Austin, be like, yo, I'm, I'm still going to pursue it.

And it's being so weird with being like, I'm going to take a girl to yoga.

It's like, bro, just

like, yeah.

Just say it.

And set it up in the center of the villa, by the way.

Yeah.

It's so simple.

She's in the middle of making Austin breakfast.

Also, like, I think it's definitely more ace, but like, and I, and I hate to even speculate because I love Shelly.

I think she's so great and dynamic.

And I would love for her to make it all the way to the end.

She's such a captivating character.

That being said,

I thought it was kind of weird right before they recoupled.

That like she had this conversation with Austin and she was basically like, listen, like, we're friends.

We're, we're friends, like, friend, the friend vibes.

And then, like, a couple scenes later, it was like, I don't know, maybe Austin and I should, like, you know, I don't know, maybe there's more there.

And it just really felt like something, a conversation or something happened between her and Ace that we didn't get to see.

And she was like, all right, well, I'm gonna, I'm gonna circle back on Austin.

It's like she knew that Ace wasn't gonna pick her.

And it just, it makes it clear.

Ace is obviously very savvy.

He's, he's, he's intelligent.

He's, he knows what he's doing.

And he just, he just talks like he understands the playbook of the show too much.

And it makes sense that he's playing like the long game and that he's going to like couple up with someone else.

And then he's going to be like, hey, listen, I don't want to be, I don't want to be called the player.

And I still want to like get to know, you know, Shelly.

So that's why he's going to like have this conversation with her.

And they just did it in such an aggressive way.

It just, I don't know.

And like, again, like, love Shelly, but she's playing Austin.

Like, it's just like, stop pretending that you're into this guy.

When, when she says, like, oh, you're so understanding.

You're so patient.

Like, said no girl ever who was actually into a guy ever.

You know, she's just, it's just, and Austin's grown on me.

He's sweet.

He's a sweetheart.

Austin's growing on me too, but the ace and the, and the kissing challenge, the, the pie challenge, like, I was, like, dry heaving because I was like, this is far too much.

Like, I'm just like, it's so, I don't know.

I just felt like when he licked the pie?

When he licked the pie and then went into her mouth.

and then it was like Austin sitting there and they're like licking.

It's just it was like

he's got a plan.

But I'm like the best part of that challenge was Sierra just being like, I just want to get my lips on Shelly.

Happy pride, everybody.

Happy Pride.

I was living for that.

All of the guys were like freaking their shit.

It was like that guy coded.

Yeah, that was good thing I've never been to college.

Literally.

Oh, yeah.

You have Nick with his phone.

Yeah, that was an it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And then Jeremiah, after the challenge, acting like a little bitch baby.

I do have to say it was really, it was really weird that when Ace pulled Huda to talk about like the whatever, and she was like, she had just finished telling Amaya that she didn't want to pie Amaya.

So she pied Ace.

And then she's like, honestly, Ace, like, I just wanted to like kiss you.

Like, I was hoping it would land on the lip so that I could kiss you.

What?

Huh?

Well, she said that she just didn't want to kiss Amaya.

She'd rather kiss Ace.

But I'm telling you, there's something

better.

But like, you're coupled up with Jeremiah being like, you're going to look at another girl.

You're going to look.

Are you kidding?

You're going to look at another girl.

It's like you're telling Ace you were hoping to like make out with him over what?

Ace and Huda.

That conversation between Jeremiah and Huda when they were, you know, because they're, you know, they're not closed off.

So like, I know we're open, but I'm just saying, like, if another girl comes and like, I don't want to like talk to her.

And he's like, what?

What?

It's just like, either you're open or you're closed, you know?

And if you're open, who knows?

And if you're closed, then you're fucking closed.

The semantical argument that it is all, it was just solely based off each other's insecurities and trying to like fuck with each other's heads.

It was just so.

He was literally like, we're closed off unless a batter bitch comes in.

It was literally.

There's nothing worse than if somebody's mad at me and I know that they're mad at me and I'm like, just talk to me.

And they're like, no.

No, he acted like such a bitch, baby.

When she came over to him and he shook her hand and then gives her two thumbs up, it was like, what?

Oh my God.

Or when she was like, how do you usually hold me, Jeremiah, or whatever?

And he's like, I'm not going to hold you the same way every time.

And it's like, bro, you couldn't keep your hands off her this entire time.

One of your friends said one thing.

And instead of having a conversation, you're acting completely differently.

I just don't play with that.

I'm like, either say what you need to say and get it out or like.

Let it go.

But I'm like, to like cause a whole scene being like, I'm going to pout.

And then I'm just not going to tell you because I'm sure.

He hates to be told that he's doing great he hates to be told he's doing great oh my god he does good job great job so words of affirmation is not your love language

i i i do understand him a little bit in that moment like she's she's talking down to him a little bit like it's it's a little much when it's like everything she does she's like giving like a grade to or just like i mean he could have sat there and been like like i just need a moment like just give me some time but he was like being weird with like the shaking her hand and the thumbs up and the like didn't want to look at her and like and then she pulls him and he's like nah, bro, like straight.

I'm straight.

I'm cool.

I'm chilling.

Everything about their relationship is definitely giving like college high school relationship where it's really too intense, too fast.

And they love the idea about each other and they love talking about how great they're going to look to their friends and yada, yada, yada.

Wait, did y'all catch when they go to the water park and Huda's talking about living together?

And he's like, oh, you know, yeah, like maybe eventually like oh, we'll start like, and, you know, like visiting long distance and maybe like we'll move to the same state, you know, and then maybe like the same city.

And like, we'll just like kind of work our way.

Then she goes back to the girls and she's like, he said he wants to live with me.

Huh?

It's like,

there is zero chance they end up together.

That's going to, that relationship is going to absolutely crash and burn.

That man is terrified of her now, but I was also wondering that I'm like, cause he kind of said the whole like good boy situation was like based after like her acting like a mom or like treating treating him like a child.

And I'm wondering if he would still feel that way if she hadn't told him about being a mom.

Yes, I think.

Because it's like now he's kind of using that against her and using that as like his way out, being like, no, you talked down to me.

But if she talked to you like that and you didn't know she had a kid, would you have a problem with it?

Or would you think it was like pet named?

It started after she told him that she had a kid.

Oh, totally.

Amaya lost me during that.

100%.

She lost me with the blow up at Shelly.

I kind of think she's great.

The argument with Ace, where she's like, she kept, she just kept saying,

babe.

She kept saying the same thing over and over again.

Wouldn't let him talk.

Yeah, which nothing pisses me off more than like someone just repeating themselves over and over and over in an argument.

It's like, okay, whenever you're done,

activated.

I'm like, yeah, it was a little messy and it was intense.

And she like, you know, she was activated, but I just, I think she's on to something.

And I think she can tell that Shelly and Ace are like, they're being shit.

She has every right to be like pissed off with Ace.

What he's doing to her is so fucked.

It's so unfair.

It's not nice.

It's like, honestly, if I'm her, he that would make me feel really.

I don't think Shelly is completely innocent in this whole charade that they're playing.

Shelly's playing the Love Island game.

Shelly's being like,

it's eight days in, babe.

Like,

you might be coupled up with Ace, but like, I still like want to get to know him.

And like, he wants to get to know me.

He's open.

I'm open.

All I'm saying, if, if they end up together, Shelly doesn't like Austin.

Yeah.

If they end up,

if Shelly and Ace end up together, I don't know.

something's like it's it's there was something shady going on i i just i don't know the way she is pretending to like austin makes me question she doesn't want to go home so she they all do that they all like want to stay in their couple so that they like make sure they have a couple for the next time lean into your connection with ace like show more of a like i don't know i get listen it's definitely way more ace but and i it's all ace shelly's done nothing wrong but play the game it's time for some new bombshells we definitely oh my God.

I was like, give us the.

We better bomb.

And I really, I hope,

I don't get why they don't like Charlie.

I just don't get it.

Y'all want to know what's fucked when Huda was like, when Jeremiah got called for Alandria or whatever for whatever they did and they landed on Kiss and he just picked her.

She's like, you could have made out with her.

It's like, you just

took off Amaya's head when she made out with him at the last challenge.

But now it's okay for your girl to make him.

Like, what?

Make up your mind.

This girl has me literally like whiplash.

I'm like, where are we?

And then, like, the best of the laundry probably didn't want to kiss him either.

Yeah, she was like, the best.

She's my favorite.

I spotted your friends' flags from day one.

I love her.

She's always like, listen, I don't want to gossip, but.

Oops.

He didn't tell you that.

Oh, shit.

Oh, my bad.

I don't.

My bad.

Right?

Both Ace and Austin going to her for advice on Shelly.

And it's just like, she's like, yeah, like, just don't quit quit trying.

Just keep, just, just put your all in there.

I saw this interesting TikTok and they were obviously referring to Huda, but they were like,

it's a major red flag when,

to this person, and I agree with them, that like when women start like really early on in a friendship being like, oh my God, I love you.

You're my soul sister.

Like, we're sisters.

We're besties.

And that's kind of how Huda's been acting.

Like, whenever she revealed to Sierra that she was a mom, like third episode or fourth episode and she's like you're my sister like i've i've come to realize and i get that they're spending a lot of time together but that's intense it's like it's kind of like it's like a friendship love bombing in a way it's like uh it's like claiming friends and it feels a little transactional it's just like i love you so in case i need something from you just know that like i'm your ride or die yeah you know it's a and you better not vote me out literally yeah no huda's she she know she's no dummy she's playing the game but she's also just like she gets a little too activated too early.

She's fun to watch.

She's great at television.

I do think all of the men are scared of her.

I mean, Nick being like, I just think she.

Please don't tell her that.

Please don't tell her I said that.

That was annoying.

Yeah.

And he's the cause of it.

He's the cause of why Jeremiah is acting different.

He's like, just don't tell her I said that.

He's like, I don't know why I'm acting different.

I'm totally fine, girl.

I also felt like his criticism didn't make sense.

Like, I think there's a lot of holes to poke in Jeremiah and Huda's relationship, but like, she's, I don't think she's pretending to to like them.

Yeah.

You know, like, she definitely likes them.

And I don't know.

And maybe, maybe, I don't know.

Maybe you're right, Leia.

Maybe there's, maybe there's something going on they haven't shown us.

You know what I'm saying?

Like, maybe Huda and Ace, like, there's, maybe they're giving each other looks.

Like, Ace is, Ace is fucking sneaky, and he, he doesn't want to, like, he doesn't like revealing his cards, pun intended.

During the blindfolded challenge in the very beginning, remember when they were allowed to, like, go kiss whoever they wanted to?

Oh, yeah.

Ace kissed Huda.

Oh, yeah i forgot he kissed shelly and huda yeah there has not been a conversation about that

wait that's so true i forgot about that wow i'm just saying huda huda and ace there's gonna be something ace is definitely into huda yeah and especially after hearing the lot like the most recent conversation of her being like i just wish i would have kissed you it's that is like that is a weird thing to say when you're like so you want to be closed off with your man so bad to be like and he also wasn't getting upset with her for touching his arm

i can't wait for Casa more.

True, they're gonna blow that shit up in Casa.

I cannot fucking bad.

And then the movie night, you know, Huda's like, he's gonna be so scared.

If Jeremiah folds and Casa more, I hope they pick up.

Like, remember the Kayla and remember the Kayla and Aaron of it all, where she's just like, Aaron, like the whole time.

And she's like, sobbing, crying.

She's like, what the fuck is this?

Like, Huda's gonna be pissed.

And the death stare, she's gonna send this man.

I don't think, I don't think Jeremiah, though, I think he's smart enough.

If he does, like, if he breaks, I think he'll come clean fast.

This is the thing about Casa Moore is that they've all seen the show, yeah, they all know what happens, and then they all do it anyway.

That's very funny.

No, I know,

I know, but like, Jeremiah, up into this point, has been very self-conscious, whether it's because he doesn't want to hurt Huda's feelings or because he's self-conscious about his brand or how he comes across.

Like, he has been swerving, he's been pecking, he's been, he hasn't even been making out during the games, which everyone gets like a green light to do that shit.

So

he's very self-aware on that end.

So I have a hard time believing that he's going to come back knowing that movie night exists and lie about it.

I hope I'm wrong.

I hope it's messy as fuck.

I could see Jeremiah coming back with somebody else.

Well, that's what the best case scenario is that like, yeah, they pick a baddie for him.

Like they go into CASA with their relationship like really rocky.

Like, you know, and that's the thing.

So much of a relationship, right, about this is about how it starts, right?

It's like that meet cute, they love how they meet.

Obviously, this isn't like, you know, Love Island world, but it's like, it's based off of like just absolutely being obsessed with each other, like the first week and talking about, oh my God, our kids would look so cute together and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

And it's all about this fantasy that they built when they first met.

And then everything about those types of relationships is about maintaining the fantasy without like, it just like being normal and getting to know each other so like they'll continue down this path of like just like trying to preserve how they met and then Casa Amor will start and he will already be like questioning how things are he'll like he'll have his buddies get in his head Nick will be like I don't know man she's a little toxic and then they'll bring in this you know this bombshell and yeah I just don't think I don't think Jeremiah is gonna like do whatever whatever he does and come back and be like Aaron was last year and just been like yeah nothing happened like I didn't do anything I don't remember.

I don't remember.

You know, like, I don't think he's going to do that.

I think it'll come clean.

And then he'll do the whole like guy thing where he's like, I'm just so confused.

And I still like you, but I like her too.

And it'll be a big mess.

And then Huda will blow up.

And then that's where Ace maybe comes in.

When is Casa Amar?

Not for a while.

It's not for a while.

That's what I'm saying.

I'm like, Jim Ramayana and Huda are breaking up before Casa.

Tomorrow, tonight.

They're not lasting.

What did he?

I mean, he was like, bro, I'm done.

Like, she keeps calling me, like, saying I'm doing great.

Like, I'm out of this shit is what he was sitting there saying to Nick.

and I'm like wait is he saying their relationships over?

And then he was like straight.

I'll do anything for her and I was like what no it was like he's like everything's perfect except that I hate her, you know

everything's perfect if she would just stop talking to me.

Yes.

I'm like let me like enjoy my love island experience.

It's a it's a good group.

I mean I think I'm I'm I'm as into this season as I as I was

It's it's it's so fascinating because I think, I don't know, maybe it's like our brains for reality TV.

We come in with wanting to be such haters.

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First episode, you're like, I don't know.

I don't know these people.

I don't give a fuck about them.

You start watching them.

You see, and then you realize, oh, I get why they were casted.

It makes a lot of sense.

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All right, Valley, it continues to be just dark.

It's so dark, guys.

It's such a hard watch now.

Did you guys see the reports that the Toms are interviewing to be in season three of The Valley?

What do you mean, interviewing?

Wait, what?

Well, I mean, I mean, on the show, so like, you know, I don't know.

They're like meeting with producers, talking storylines, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, about the possibility of.

It sounds like, I don't, maybe this was a blog.

I don't know.

You never know.

Like, we thought Carl left Summerhouse.

Even Andy Cohen sounds like he believed that fake post.

But who else is interviewing?

The Toms.

And who else?

Is there someone else?

Did I forget?

Who else?

Tina?

Ariana's brother.

Oh, yeah.

And Ariana's brother, which

it's giving Bravo, putting up loser men on a pedestal.

I can't, I can't, well,

I can't.

I can't argue against that.

You know, the Toms, I mean, you know, especially Swartz, I have a bit of a soft spot.

Put it this way.

Would it be interesting to you guys if you could see, well, Tom Sandoval is in a relationship.

Swartz, at least says he wants kids.

I would like to see them to be in seemingly decent relationships and strive for the American family dream.

Do we feel like we trust Tom Sandoval on another TV show while in a relationship?

I just like don't know what that show would be.

Are Ariana and her brother on good terms?

Are they close?

That I don't know.

Wasn't there like like headlines a long time ago of like she hasn't spoken to him?

Yeah, I feel like Thoughtside.

That was a while

because he was still on good terms with Sandoval, I think, after Scam Doval.

Well, there's your issue.

And he's hanging out with Jax when Jax was dating that like OnlyFans model during everything.

So I'm like, Yeah, he's definitely picked the wrong side of history.

Yeah, they weren't on speaking terms a year ago.

One of the biggest, I think, misconceptions out there, especially with like public figures, is

family members, you know.

So often, if there's like a report, like so-and-so's brother or sister or cousin or whatever, you know, might speak on what they know about this public figure, or maybe they're quoted in some kind of book.

And it's just like, I have 10 brothers and sisters and they're very different.

I mean, I have siblings on the complete opposite end of the political spectrum, you know, and everything in between.

And some of us are close.

I mean, we're as a whole, we're a close family, but like the individual, like

I wouldn't want most of my siblings speaking on my behalf, you know what I'm saying?

Like, like if someone wrote like a

bio pic about your life, like would you want your sisters?

Like, how many of your siblings would you want to be like, yeah, let me tell you everything I know about Natalie?

Yeah, probably not a lot of them, you know,

especially a sibling.

It's it's loaded with such like sibling rivalry.

I feel like they would tell it, and I'm like, that's not fucking how it happened, like at all.

I mean,

Ariana's Ariana's got to be so pissed about the possibility.

It's such a good concept of Valley.

Like, get aspirational people.

They need to get, they need to convince Stasi Schroeder and La La.

Kent.

They've got to.

Stasi's team Hulu at this point.

She's off the grid.

I don't care.

They need to pay her enough money.

Her and her family need to be on the valley.

Stasi would be great, but they can, like, they're the

this group of Vanderpump adjacent people are not the only people who live in the valley.

They're not the only people you can do.

No, but that's what, I think that's what is, is what we like so much about the valley with Kristen is that we saw her as this like crazy drunk kid.

And now she's like becoming a mom.

She's settled down.

She's bought a house.

She's like, and we like that transition.

These random friends that like some are fans of the show, some are not.

I don't, I, I don't feel like they're as compelling.

They're not at all.

I don't need Jasmine.

Don't need Zach.

Janet, Michelle.

I will say Janet at least is

Janet might be, might give Karen, but I don't think she's like a

most boring person to watch on reality television.

I'm not saying sorry.

I get that she came on, but no, she is a terrible reality television.

Yeah, she does not give anything from herself.

All of her drama is like spewing shit about other people from forever ago or keeping the same fight going episodes, episodes, episodes in.

I would fire them all except for kristen and luke i mean luke's only crime is wearing those shorts with that suit do you think that was

i mean that must be kristen's fault there's no way luke picked that out for himself that's just that's just luke picks out his own clothes there's no way he picked that out

there's no way he picked that up like that pink linen suit pant short short it was stylish

He was taking a fashion, fashion, fashion.

It was brave.

That man takes risks.

He blends in with his skin.

And then

when it cut to the wide, it was a jump scare.

I was like, is he naked?

The shorts was definitely a jump scare.

But no, I think we need, we need Lala's.

I said this, yeah, last reality recap.

We need Lala's dynamic, right?

We need like this powerful woman with her children, no fucking man, like maybe she's dating, whatever, but like the pod with her mom and her brother, like raising her family, her doing her pod.

Like she's a powerhouse.

We need Lala.

I think Stasi with her two kids and her husband.

Stasi's not coming back.

Lala and Carrots.

Coney, we're not actually casting them.

This is all imaginary.

That's amazing.

That will never happen.

So stop saying it.

It's like all of this shit.

It's my dream team.

This is crazy.

This is her fantasy football.

Literally, like, sorry, Aaron Rodgers is never going to play for you in real life.

Stasi Schroeder.

Stasi Schroeder with her family on the valley.

Anyone else in the dream team that involves Stasi?

So we have Stasi, Lala, Kristen.

Would it be not funny to have...

I'd be interested in watching the Toms date on the Valley.

I'd be fine never.

They're not as dark.

I mean, compared to Jesse and Jax,

the Toms make them look like sweet souls i think we can do schwartz without sandoval

yeah i agree yeah we definitely agree with that i'm like it the only thing even with shorts though too is that i've i and i love shortsee but i feel like he's still so like i'm trying to figure it out like the contrast between like these like marriages falling apart like you have to get rid of all of that to incorporate someone like schwartzy because it's just going to go from like fighting fighting to like

here's my plants like you know it's it's just two very different vibes.

No, I don't want the darkness of this show.

You know, I don't know.

What about Heidi and Spencer?

I don't know if they mesh with the show.

I feel like they're their own.

Heidi and Spencer are Heidi and Spencer.

They're not part of an ensemble anymore.

Like, they're their own

show.

Yeah.

Well, they're my dream team.

They should have their own show.

I would want them.

Justin said it.

Not.

Okay, so

Nick's dream team is Heidi and Spencer, Tom Sandoval.

No, no, no.

No one's told me.

Victoria Lee Robinson.

Tom Sandoval's on my mind.

Well, is on your dream team, Nick.

Sorry, they're not renewing it.

Your season.

No, I want more.

So far, I don't know if I'm watching.

Ratings are low for Nick's season of the Valley.

I think I perform.

No one's watching.

Whose season performs better, Nick's dream team or Natalie's dream team?

Wait, when did they become my dream team?

You just said they were.

No, I said they're being interviewed.

But you got mad at me when I said Stossy, and you were like, no, never.

That won't happen.

It's like, that's my dream.

I'm just like, pretty sure she's on Hulu.

She's fucking busy.

She has her own show, though.

He's right.

I do also feel like, though, they're really, they can't really put anyone else.

Like, whoever else is on this show has to come from reality TV, right?

Like, there can't be like a Julianne Huff on, you know, like we can't have.

Why not?

Because she's not going to like mix dream team Julianne Huff and mingle, literally.

I'm not saying Julianna Huff, but like what I'm saying is I want people who like,

who are aspirational, that have cool lives, that like have good qualities to them.

And sure, every once in a while, they show some vulnerability.

They bring some mess in their life onto the show.

Like who?

I don't fucking know.

Who's at the top of your head?

Besides Tom Sandabalt, because I don't see how he's aspirational in any sort of way.

His cameos are charming.

I've never seen a cameo for

him.

He put so much work into them.

He does put a lot of, he does put a lot into it.

It's like a birthday tribute.

He plays music in the background.

It's, it's, he's mixing a drink, sets up a whole bar.

Have you bought one?

He's always doing the most.

I saw him floating around.

Nick just has a bunch of Tom Santa Claus cameos.

He's like, hey, Nick, me again.

You're not allowed to do that.

You know what to get in for Father's Day?

You know,

come back.

So you have no one that like you can think of off the top of your head.

Off the top of my head?

Jillianne Huff actually wouldn't be bad.

I mean, she'd never do it, but

pretty good.

Like, I feel like we're back to square one.

No, I mean, like, how did we start?

Yeah, with

now he's like, Jillian Huff would never do it.

But yeah, I'd have her on.

Like, Stasi Schröder would never do it, but yeah, I'd have her on.

No, Stasi can't.

I do think the beauty of The Valley is that it's, it's a group of friends who are in the Vander Pump like sphere of universe.

So it's like friends of friends of friends of friends.

So they kind of have to stick to that.

Like

bubbled line to the valley.

No, but I'm saying, like, you have to stay true to the valley, like the show itself.

That is the like log line.

Jasmine's been someone who's just been like floating around LA for the past decade, like trying to be friends with other reality TV stars and found her way on the show.

Like, is it that compelling?

And all she's done is like point fingers at people.

Like, what do we, do we even know what she's been doing for the past 10 years?

What does she even do for work?

Genuinely don't know, but can we talk about that moment though when they sit down for dinner to for the confrontation and how fake she was?

No, that was sitting here running her.

Her mouth to everyone about like how dark side Danny, dark side Danny, like she's a terrorist.

Not dark side Danny, about Janet and whatnot.

And then it was just like instantly like, I never said that.

I forgive you.

Like, we're good.

And it was just like, girl, you've wasted my last three episodes on this storyline for this to be the confrontation.

Like the, the,

the beach fight was crazy.

And for that to be the last time you speak.

And then now this, it's like, yeah, where was the, I thought I missed something.

I was like, what happened?

What she was like, you're not a Karen?

I was like, you screamed it in her face.

And then Janet's like, yeah, I guess I probably am.

I looked it up and I probably am a little bit of a Karen.

It's like, what is happening?

This was clearly this whole thing up.

It was clearly a scene.

They're clearly just good friends who are like, guys,

Jasmine's like, listen, Janet, I'm going to throw a couple like, you're a Karen.

You have bad vibes and you're going to get like offended.

And then we're going to make up next episode.

Is that cool?

And they're like, yeah, great.

Cool.

See you at the beach.

That's how that happened.

Kind of smart.

I said when they both sat down to that dinner, I go, there's two bad actors.

One is.

already acting.

One hasn't gotten started yet.

And I don't know if you saw Janet's face when she sat down, but she was just

like this like shy, timid, like, I'm so sad.

I'm so sad.

And then it was just like, for that to be the confrontation, I was like, you guys are fake.

Janet is going to be a little bit more like that.

The way they're bringing up this dark Danny again.

I mean, maybe, maybe Danny was hammered, but I've never seen a more sober, on-camera, calm person.

Jason's like, you're acting weird, dude.

You're acting weird.

Go for a walk.

Nick was like, he's literally sitting there.

He's just sitting there with his legs crossed.

He's literally sitting there.

And it's like all of them like are yelling.

All of them yell at each other.

all of them get into drama all of them do this and it's like just because danny had a couple of drinks he's only doing this because he's drunk it's like why can't he just stand up for himself also jason what a bitch the way he's afraid to help them decorate the bar because it's gonna upset his abusive toxic friend uh who's coming out of rehab like excuse me like are these guys honestly just what does jax have over them does he have like i mean that would be very believable that jax blackmailed all his friends truly uh that's what it's giving like what these the fact that any of these guys have the nerve to stand up or they're also trying to be his friend at this point is fucking crazy they're also acting like they ripped down all of jax's like name like they put a piece of paper over his signage jesse's like i can't believe this this is happening like he's getting out tomorrow he's gonna hear about this it's like just rip down the sheet of paper.

Yeah, Jesse trying to make me feel bad for Jax.

I'm like, please.

Never.

Yeah.

Literally, we should do way worse.

I have to pick my friend up from rehab tomorrow and we're just, we're just aiding in his regression.

And it's just like, okay, don't post the photo.

Regression?

The man's been, he's been like harassing Brittany the entire season.

What regression?

Question.

When she said that he came by to pick up the mail, what rehab facility is allowing somebody to go stop by their house to pick up the mail?

Like, how do you know he's not using it?

He's not there.

He's at a friend's house.

He's every time we see him, he's sitting in front of someone's wall.

It's just like, literally, Jason being like, no.

And I walked in and I talked to the professionals there and I said, this is what you're dealing with.

It's like, honestly, I feel like Jax hired some people.

And that's where you went to like Jax's facility.

He's in someone's

actual one.

Yeah.

It was crazy to hear them.

They're like packing up all of his stuff and Brittany's like getting emotional and she's like, I just love him.

You know, you can't get over him overnight.

It's like overnight.

It's been 10 years of this.

What do you mean overnight?

Move on.

I mean, I honestly, I couldn't with her whole like her ordering McDonald's Taco Bell and this girl needs to get her life together.

I mean, if that's not just parallel to everything about her life.

I think that was a trend.

Yeah.

It was like a trend.

It's a disgusting trend.

Okay.

Well,

I was like,

I ordered Taco Bell.

I saw it, and I was like, actually down.

Take a McDonald's tower.

Michelle walking in, though, being like, is there anything for me?

Air and water, my love.

This show really does hate women.

Justin, you sent

some kind of article talking about the showrunner Jeremiah and how he also showruns Southern Charm.

And he did the Vanderpump like season 10 and 11.

And

Ali Vanderpump and Southern Charm.

Yeah.

Oh, so he hates women.

Well, there's just

a meme.

People don't know.

Well, people don't know too much about this producer.

He just, he's associated with a lot of the seasons that were also like, quote unquote, the worst received ones by audience members.

And he was removed from Southern Charm like halfway through.

I know, Jeremy.

And he was an executive producer.

I don't know, but I know of him.

Oh, and I think his name dropped also in Vanderpump Rules.

Yeah.

But yeah, so there's an interesting, like, people are noticing a pattern, whether it's him or if it's just reality, who knows?

But it's just the way, for example, like this episode, they did Michelle so dirty, right?

Like, I was shocked by the, even the women's, our

audience response, which is a lot of women, like the way they are not rallying behind Michelle.

Like, I just...

Again, look at Jesse, the type of person he is, what he put Michelle through.

And like, you know, maybe Michelle's not your favorite character.

Maybe you find her slightly obnoxious, but like, how can you not have empathy for someone like Michelle, given everything that Jesse has done, which is very similar to a lot of things that Jax has done in terms of just like, just emotionally torturing her, spending her money, spending all this money to try to look rich rather than like build a life together.

It's crazy.

What I do think, though, is crazy is that Lala Lala was the only person to ask Michelle about her mom.

Like she's been with these people.

She calls these other people like her best friend.

She's been with them so much more than she's been with Lala, like as we've seen.

We haven't seen not one of these people ask Michelle about her mom.

Yeah.

And I think like, again, the show did her so dirty because her comments, I guarantee you, people are going to be, it was edited in a way that was very much like, here's Britney's moment.

It was edited to like give Sheena in a way.

It's like it was the kind of like, what about me type of thing?

But like, this is an in-the-moment interview that Michelle probably did, I don't know, weeks after they wrapped filming, right?

Like, they're doing pickups.

They're talking about, you know, she probably came in for like a four-hour session to go through like moments of the season and just kind of talk about, well, how do you feel about like just the support, you know, that do you think the rest of the group supports you when it comes to Jesse?

Blah, blah, blah.

She answers these questions and then they decided to embed it into this episode in this moment that makes her, that makes her like look like Asheena.

And it's just like, it's, they're doing her so dirty.

And I just don't get why.

I just like, why don't they have like the show?

Why doesn't the show have empathy for these women, specifically Michelle?

Because again, like Brittany, I'm just so over.

I'm just so over.

They're moving her out and she's still being like, I just love him.

I just, I don't know his jean jacket.

Oh my God, the jean jacket.

Ah, like, I don't care.

Like, we, we got to see a season of Michelle and Jesse.

We got to see how shitty he was.

And Michelle finally was like, enough is enough.

I don't want to be with this person.

I need to be free of this person.

Michelle is an example of standing up for yourself, leaving a toxic situation and showing that there's light at the end of the tunnel.

And they, they are highlighting.

Brittany, who is someone who is an example of continuing to like delusionally believe and someone who's never going to change.

And for for all the people out there watching the show who need a little inspiration to like leave a bad situation, they are making the one person who's doing that, Michelle, look like a Sheena.

Well, it's looking also like where at the end of Vanderpump, you had Lala saying like, well, I, you know, nobody, I didn't get this treatment when I went through a, a divorce on the show or when I got cheated on.

And then Ariana gets like the God treatment, you know, where she can't, it doesn't have to film with Sandoval and she can like, you know.

It's that to me, for me, where I'm like, I feel like everyone's ignoring or not acknowledging the fact that like Jax is in a facility right now.

So yes, we're there as support for Britney, but I'm like, Michelle's being forced to spend time, hang out in an intimate group with a man who's actively trying to make her life miserable.

Yeah, it'll be very interesting to see what they do now that Jax is leaving rehab, like how the friend group is going to navigate.

Like, are they going to invite Jax to all the functions or is it just going to be Brittany?

Like, because right now They're inviting Michelle and Jesse to everything and they're not taking into consideration how Michelle might feel about that and they're like continuing to be friends with Jesse even when he's been emotionally abusive to Santa Barbara happened.

She's literally threw a drink in the man's face.

He's calling her a hooker and then here we are for like a Jax is fuck Jax party and we invited Jesse like why right.

So it'll be interesting to see like if they invite Jax to things or if they're gonna be like, no, we are on team Britney.

Jax is not allowed.

And then, yeah, I mean, that would be a slap in the face to Michelle.

Oh, congratulations to Danny and Nia for four under four.

They have

the birth of their child recently.

So congratulations to them.

And it's just the fact that they are, this show is putting so much energy in trying to make them look bad.

It just kind of shows what this show's about.

This is like, it,

it could be so much better.

It really could be so much better if they just like stopped editing it in this fucking way.

And Janet found her own storyline.

We got an insight into her relationship.

Maybe she showed us some cracks in her marriage or some stuff her and Jason work on or life at home with Janet.

I mean, like every scene she has, it's about a fight with someone else.

Yeah.

Jasmine's the same one.

Exactly.

You know what's interesting about this friend group is that I don't see the benefit of it.

Like I don't see them having fun.

I don't see them like actually enjoying each other.

I don't see any of them actually being there for each each other emotionally.

All I see are like them being petty, talking behind each other's backs, being mean to each other.

Like with every other cast, it's like you have the drama, but you also see the love.

I don't see the love with this cast.

Yeah.

Yeah.

They're just all mediators of the trauma that's happening.

I don't see how Ariana's brother is going to help.

No.

Well, he'll bring the weep.

Julianne Huff, though.

Please.

How do we feel about Rachel Zoe joining the cast of Beverly Hills Housewives?

I feel like that's it.

I think it's giving Rebecca mink off you do she was rumored for rachel zoe is rumored for a while now well and also rachel had a long-standing show that like rachel's our project gorsky and like yeah so i'm like she's already reality t how did you say brad's name brad gorski yeah i don't

think what do you how do you say it goresky

anyways he literally was uh she her show is what like put him into the canon thank you so i'm like i feel like it's actually like a really good move because like Rebecca Minkoff has never had a personality where I'm like, Rachel is, it's

like for a long time.

It was

a huge show back then.

Does she have like rapport with any of these women?

I'm assuming she does.

I would feel like she would have more rapport with like an Erica or like a Lisa Renna, like somebody who's not actually on the show right now, but I feel like she's in that, in that circle.

Did Bose have a rapport, though, with anyone?

Because she kind of came in without

anyone.

She was great.

Yeah.

Yeah, I'm with Sierra.

i think she has already shown the ability to be a compelling reality tv star where rebecca kind of showed up as a fashion name icon who was like oh looking to up her brand yeah this how you know this oh this i get to be on tv this housewife thing sounds fun and then showed up and was like whoa i did not sign up for this like holy shit like i is rachel zoe and a member of scientology or no

god please making sure we're not getting that storyline again

no storyline i did see a meme of like the millennials know rachel Zoe and then the Gen Z like know of Rachel Zoe.

Yeah.

And like that's the difference of like she's going to hit two different demographics, but in different ways.

I think that's the same thing for next gen.

Like a lot of their parents, I feel like Gen Z's not going to really know besides some of the housewives.

But like Rachel Roy, like, which is crazy because she's iconic.

But I do feel like a lot of people probably watching are like, who?

Right.

Or like,

like Ava's dad.

Yeah.

Literally.

But I know Ava.

Right.

And that's, that's the the proof in the pudding.

Did you see Ava Dash was dating Diana Jenkins' son and also Crystal Minkoff's nanny?

So sorry, what?

So she's so she's been in the back of Bravo scenes like multiple seasons.

How are we feeling now?

Two episodes in, are we starting to like not?

And episode two is better.

Nick made a great point last night at when we were having dinner.

We were talking about it,

and he said,

Is Bravo

too old for this show?

Like,

has the age demographic of Bravo elevated to where now this show is like, ugh, you know, like that's a very interesting call out.

Maybe it's it's exactly what they're trying to do, like appeal to a younger demographic and like make Bravo appeal to like Gen Z more.

Yeah, we'll see.

They might have to give it some time.

Listen, I love the New York vibe.

It's slow so far, and it's it's definitely giving too self-aware with some of these

characters.

And it's kind of giving potential doing scenes.

Speaking of potentially doing scenes, did you guys see the trailer for Beyond the Villa?

Yes.

Yes.

I'm so glad you brought this up.

Are you talking about Kayla and Liv's fight?

It looks potentially really rough.

It looks potentially rough.

Kayla and Liv's fight, where she's like, you didn't tell me you were getting glam.

And she's like, well, you didn't tell me you were getting a spray tan.

Why the fuck do I have to tell you I'm getting a spray tan?

I was like, oh, come on.

No, don't give us a tan.

Listen, I love Kayler.

I love Kayler, but I'm scared to say that I think she's probably going to be doing too much on this new show.

Well, I think they're all going to be doing too much.

No, y'all, we saw genuine Kayler.

We saw genuine like fights and upset and like we saw all of that.

So now it looks different because she is aware.

And that's, I think, why it's going to feel like she's doing scenes is because we've seen the fuck, Erin.

We've seen her cry.

We've seen her sob.

We've seen her like fight with these women.

And so now to have her on this, like fighting about a spray tan, it's like, come on, we know that's not you.

It's tough.

It's just because I think that's, that's why sometimes these shows have a hard time landing.

And maybe, maybe it's just like, you know, maybe it's the trailer.

Maybe it'll end up being epic.

Who knows?

But Love Island, the format, works, right?

The show is compelling.

You know, they, that's why they play all these silly games with slime and makeout and the bombshell idea.

And it's the environment, which what makes it compelling bachelor for example like a lot of these people aren't stars on their own it's the show that's the star and yeah there's some storylines and things like that it is much harder for an ensemble cast of quote-unquote ordinary people to get together and and make a season-long compelling show you like it's tough to do i mean i think everyone i think ppg everyone's gonna love everyone's gonna love leah serena and janae i think their dynamic is always just gonna be fun and funny, and people love like

that aspect of it.

I don't see like Aaron or Kindle or even Connor being like that, you know?

I mean, Aaron didn't say a word in the uh, he said he hasn't had sex with anyone since Kaler, which well, no, he didn't, he didn't say it.

He just, if you had sex, and he goes, like, literally, this showed his sad, sappy face a bunch of times.

I don't, it's like, has he lost his voice?

Uh, what is going on?

I saw a funny video where where somebody was like, uh, put captions under that and was like lying in a British accent.

Yeah, I don't, I don't want Liv and Kayler fake fights.

I want Liv and Kaler to go up against the PPG and talk about how they feel left out from the PPG.

And because that feels real.

That feels like there's a, you know.

Waterpuff Girls was only three, though, I do have to say.

Either way, I'm just saying that feels like something I can believe, some real jealousy of the way, like, you know, clearly Janae, Serena, and Leah were like the fan favorites.

They were the real stars.

And Kayla definitely, you know, had some star qualities and she really popped at the end.

But like there was a clear distinction between that group and everyone else.

And that is something I can believe if they actually lean into that potential storyline, not who's mad at who got a fake tanner.

like that the what the fuck and like do not try to sell me like these fake you know, if someone's really dating, great.

Don't force feed me a fake relationship.

Yeah, I don't need to see Liv and Connor again.

Like, you know, I don't know if that's going to happen, but I've seen it.

That, and then did you see that Janae was in the comments?

Because the trailer dropped.

And apparently, how they how they edited the trailer together, it looks like Kenny and her are fighting and that it's apparently like the, I don't, I don't want to be together.

I want to stay apart or something.

Like you're saying he didn't want to live together.

But like,

apparently that's like a line that's like cut in, but Kenny didn't even say that at that time.

But they're trying to like push that like there's trouble between Janae and Kenny when there's not.

And she's already saying there's not.

Yeah, she's, she's pissed about it.

Like, she's in the comments being like, that's why I don't know if this show is going to work.

You either have to sell it and go along with it, but like, yeah, where I'm like, they're course correcting as the stuff is coming out.

So that's where it's like, oh.

Because that honestly was the most interesting possible storyline of, oh, okay.

Like, and it wasn't like I watched that trailer and go, oh, Janae and Kenny, like, they're going to break up.

It was more like, okay, that's, they're less than a year into the relationship should we move in together should we not move in together right that's a real that's a real discussion real problems i can see that being i've i have fought with ex-girlfriends about being like one of us wanted to move in together and you know the other one was like i don't think we're ready but if janae is gonna go in the comments and being like fake storyline for the trailer it's like oh i don't know well there's a little bit in there that i'm like interested like you know another real thing that happens in relationships is like the one partners is, you know, really busy and not making time.

And like, that kind of seems like what's going on with Serena,

you know, a little bit and Cordell.

But the fact that they put Liv and Kayler's fight about spray tans in the trailer.

That's the best you got.

Yeah.

That's the best you have.

Can we talk about Nicole Jackie?

Oh, yeah.

Nicole Jackie shows up.

I audibly gasped when I saw her on screen.

Did I miss that?

She had to sit down with Kendall.

Oh, really?

Where was that?

And they're talking about their like breakup.

Yeah.

Oh.

Period.

And she's blinking.

She has the same energy in the trailer.

Yeah.

It was like, you guys threw me under the bus.

What?

Is that what she said?

She was like, you really, you talk shit about me.

You know.

She's like, it's okay.

You can say it.

You talk shit about me.

And she was like, say it with your chest.

And that was all.

Right.

Like, that's a, that's an interesting.

I just wonder.

I wonder what she's up to as someone from Sacramento.

I'm like, she's just like bumping and thumping around.

Yeah, she's been pretty quiet on social media.

I feel like.

I mean, I also don't follow her, so maybe I just don't follow her, and she's very active, and I just don't see it.

You know, that probably would be it.

That is so me.

I'm like, oh my God, I haven't seen them at all.

It's like, well, yeah, I actually don't follow them at all.

I hope it's a good show, but it's the trailer wasn't promising.

Especially if Janae is already upset with them.

It's like, oh, no.

Well, I just don't think they're going to.

And again, I fucking get it.

I say this all the time.

Like, I would never do these these shows.

We've been asked to do shows like this.

I'm not interested.

We, as much as we like to, from time to time, come on this show and give you like an anecdotal like, oh, drama on our flight.

Like, we, we like our privacy.

We want to pick and choose.

We don't want our life to be storylined.

And we don't, you know, we, we don't want that type of attention or fame.

And so

we don't do it.

And it, this cast feels like what they want is to keep the fame going, you know, like they had a whole year of being Love Island superstars, right?

And now, like, you know, like the bachelor before them, when their new season comes out, it's like a very weird feeling, right?

Because up into this point, they, they get all the opportunities, they get all the calls.

And now, depending on how well this season goes, it's, you know, they're, they potentially could be forgotten.

And so obviously they get this opportunity.

They're going to say yes to it, but I'm not sure they're willing to do what it takes to make that show successful.

Guess we'll see.

Yeah, I did like that they sent the baby to uh Leah and Miguel because that's like something that they do on Love Island UK, where they'll like send them all a baby that's like crying and needing things.

And like, you watch the couples have to take care of a baby.

And I kind of hope that they like did that with like, I hope that that's what that was.

That's funny.

You know what I'm talking about.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think Sierra's afraid to say anything negative about this guest.

Why would I be afraid?

I actually love them.

I think it's going to perform, to be fair.

I don't think people.

Yeah, I was like, I have nothing to be afraid of.

I'm like, I'm Team Leah.

I'm Team Janae.

I'm Team Sabrina, Cordell.

Name them all.

PPG.

I hope it's good.

I'm going to watch it regardless.

I hope it's good.

And I agree with Justin.

I think people will give him a shot.

The question, if it's not good, people aren't going to stick around.

Yeah.

I just hope that the best drama isn't about spray tans.

That's all.

I just like, hope that it's not like a, like a mom talk in reverse because like watching them on their socials, I enjoy it so much.

So I'm like, I hope that it's something that transfers over like Mom Talk did.

But I'm like, it could also be something where they're better off doing daily vlogs instead of doing a video.

That's what I'm saying.

That's a perfect example of like, that's what makes the Mormon wives so special and so talented is because of their willingness and vulnerability and bravery to continue to show their real lives and their real drama and the things that they really care about.

what's pissing them off.

And so many influencers who are especially online, who have a brand to consider and things like that, come off shows like A Love Island and focus on their brand.

And then they're, and again, no criticism.

I totally get it, which is why I'm like, I don't want to do that shit, you know?

So we'll see.

Speaking of Mormon wives, did y'all see

Michaela's comment under Whitney's video?

Whitney posted like when she makes another video about me,

like shading Michaela.

And Michaela comments, you should have done this in the hospital.

It's laid.

Mick, do you need to pick me up?

Michaela's so messy.

I love it.

I love her.

I have a question,

I guess.

Maybe a question for Natalie or Nick.

I don't know.

But if you're significant, if it's your eight-year anniversary and you happen to be on a trip and you finally get a hold of each other, wouldn't you want the first thing that your partner says is happy anniversary?

I love you.

I love you.

What are we talking about?

Yeah, for sure.

Charles Oakley picking up the phone and is just like, what, bitch?

That's crazy.

I'd be like, we've been together for eight years.

That was the craziest thing I saw.

Should we talk about Brittany trying to sue Bravo, the money grab?

That whole mess?

I've been saying that.

Sierra, you have a visceral reaction.

Give it to me.

It's just crazy.

Like, I'm just like, one second, we're like defending her because of this.

And she's sitting here playing victim, being like these photos and the fact that she's trying to humiliate me.

And then Smash Cut to the end of the season.

and now you're suing saying that those weren't even you in the in the photos like that doesn't even make any sense you literally had us take your side against kenya and we're like yeah that was fucked up that kenya did that and now you're claiming that you're not even in the photos well and to clarify too what she's claiming is that she wasn't able to see the photos so bravo was withholding information of like what they actually were so she didn't know until like well bravo doesn't

have anyone

trainers no no no but wasn't all those women at that event weren't they be like oh that's not Brit.

I don't know who that is, but that's not Brit.

And then be like, girl, you have nothing to worry about.

That wasn't you on the posters.

Well, that's what's lost in translation because we know a lot of the cast members won't say like it is revenge porn and illegally it's not considered revenge porn so it's a whole like convoluted situation yeah but this is uh just and i talked about this yesterday this is not like justice for kenya like whether she's just like a sloppy at revenge and got the photos wrong if her intent was still to bring up old photos of pornographic photos of brit and she just like found the wrong images that also like who is this girl that's in these pictures now like should we like just as for a random person in a porno

and then we no but then we see her at the end of the episode being like well i'm sorry like and i'm not trying to slut shame but like i will say that it's like she's like i made some mistakes when i was younger and like These things are being thrown in my face.

And now you're saying it might not be you, but you're suing for defamation.

But then at the end of the episode, you're whipping out your tits like it's like your job.

So it's just kind of like in a group of women that are crying about like her daughter her sick baby like it's just the whole her whole vibe just throws me off i am not a britt edie fan i'm glad that she's gone or that she will not be coming back because well and her lawsuit specifically says defendants contributed to a hostile work environment for edie and sexually harassed plaintiff by subjecting edie to unwelcomed offensive and sexualized behavior and comments based on her gender by requiring her to continue working in an environment in which she had been subject to gendered attack.

It's a, it's a

definition hostile environment.

It's just like, you know, you're on the housewives.

Yeah.

What's crazy is Brady files a $20 million lawsuit against Bravo.

She won't be back next season.

That's for sure.

And

I feel like, honestly, she will probably win this.

Oh, definitely not.

You don't think so?

You don't think a judge would be like...

No, I mean, there's like precedent about this.

You know, it's just like, I think someone famously sued the Friends writers or whatever, you know, because for like some things they said, I think it might have been to the Supreme Court, but there was basically like saying like you know in the this this this is not like a normal works space you know like this is not like showing up to an office space you know that specializes in selling insurance and you walk into a room where they're talking about sex and drugs and and and and making crude jokes like i know but a hostile work environment isn't her only claim yeah but she also can't say hostile work environment she's the one talking about pistol whipping people and like whatnot she's also she's also asking the network to remove the episode from all platforms.

So it's like the episode that I don't share here on the image.

Exactly.

Like that doesn't make sense.

It reeks of money grab.

I don't think.

I mean, I don't know if any of these, all these people suing Bravo.

It just reeks of money grab.

Isn't her husband going through some sort of legal stuff?

Well, yes, her husband also didn't pay back the country club for the episode we saw.

So it's like, there's a lot going on.

Her husband's getting sued by the country club that they filmed that weird pop-up party at.

I also think waiting.

Wait, wait, why is he getting sued?

For failure to pay.

He didn't pay for renting out the country club for her event.

So the country club sued him.

And now all of a sudden, conveniently, she's suing Bravo.

I think many of these cast members who are suing Bravo are messy, sloppy reality TV stars who aren't,

don't even like think about the process in which they're going.

And I think Bravo has it well documented.

in many of these cases, these reality TV stars actively pursuing like a next season, trying to get back on, trying to be, you know, to continue working for the very environment they claim is hostile.

And then when they aren't casted, then they try to sue.

And I think when it goes to litigation in court, like I think I'm guessing Bravo would probably bring this information and be like, well, it's funny that they are suing us and saying this was a such and such environment because here are all these emails and correspondence between Bravo and their teams about how they wanted to be on next season.

And it only changed once we decided to go in a different direction.

You know, but like, these are just,

these are, these are sloppy people.

Also, her like failed event or whatever when she like had the dinner and like it was only for her table, not for everyone.

So then she blamed her decorator.

That decorator's come out like speaking out against her.

I'm like, she's just notorious for like not taking any accountability or responsibility for anything that she does or anything that goes wrong.

She blames everybody else for the way that she's being portrayed.

Where I'm like, this is what you've done, my girl.

We have

Bachelor in Paradise Cast Reveal, and we have Dale Moss.

Justin Glaze.

Is that Claire Crawley?

Justin's back.

I actually think I heard that Dale was going to be on it.

Jonathan, I guess we knew he was going to go.

Kat's back.

I don't know who a lot of these people are, honestly.

Because you didn't watch their season or because they're

Sam McKinney, the

villain of Jen's season.

Oh, yeah.

Wasn't that Jen's season?

Who is really weird?

Yeah, the one who wanted to push her off the ledge.

You know who they didn't post?

Any of the Goldens?

Who?

Wait, no, I see.

I see.

I just don't like that.

I see some Goldens.

I have got Leslie Goldens.

I see it's going to be your obvious people.

Yeah.

Gary.

Leslie.

Gary's there.

Gary.

It's going to be all the people they've

been with over the past two years.

Zoe.

Zoe will be there.

We knew that, though, right?

Hakeem is going to be there.

Zoe.

I mean, I'm really only shocked by Justin Blaze and Dale Moss.

Jill is going back.

All of the rest of them kind of make sense because they were on previous most recent seasons.

I forgot about Jess.

Carisa kind of went home.

Alex.

Alex is going.

But look at what are these photos of them?

Bailey is going.

Selfie Crew.

Oh, Alexi's there.

Cat, Cat, Justin.

I mean, there's.

Andrew Spencer.

Who Andrew is going back?

Andrew Spencer is going back?

Yeah.

I don't have the right link.

It's only showing me like Jeremy Simon.

Spencer's photo is hot.

Spencer Simon.

Spencer Conley.

Oh, sorry.

Spencer Conley.

All the men have shirts, and then you get to Spencer.

Brian.

Okay, April Kirkwood is going.

I don't know.

From Golden.

Kathy.

I don't care about the Golden.

Natasha.

Zoe okay Zoe Akeem Andrew and Justin going back is I'm gonna say it is a downgrade for them like come on guys

but come on it's just like you've you're so far removed you've made yourself like you're you're you are who you are and now going back is giving just like they weren't they're not they're not booked and busy though I don't know I kind of like when they bring people back from like seasons I mean I'd rather see Andrew than this Brian Ootz ots guy.

No idea who that guy is.

Do not care either.

I mean,

I love watching Andrew and Justin tell, like, like they're funny.

They're good.

You know, they're good guys.

So I guess I just think like

career-wise, maybe that wasn't the best choice.

But like it brings

OG feel.

It'll definitely make it.

funny that's for sure if they give him is this the entire cat oh my god and then just watch Justin Glaze in the corner staring at like a golden hitting on like a young girl and he's just gonna have that look on his face.

Yeah.

Him and Hakeem.

They literally put the two guys with the facials.

We didn't even talk about Hakeem being like on Secret Lives of Mormon Wives.

Well, like I didn't notice him.

He was just in the back.

I did.

I noticed him immediately.

I think that's pretty good about him all season.

I also texted Leia ahead of time.

Who's he friends with?

I think he's pretty good friends with Bretton Demi.

Is this a limited cast?

Is this...

obviously.

It's the first cast.

Obviously, they're not going to release everyone.

I mean, it's 23 people.

It's lacking star quality.

That's for sure.

Dale Moss is crazy.

But

they're also going to bring people in like week.

Sure, but like if this is going to be there will be some good bombshells.

This is their best.

This is their best.

You lead with your stars.

You know what I'm saying?

Do you?

Because I feel like sometimes the bombshell is where it's at.

Not to be a bad.

Maybe the first person you bring in.

But again, like you, you want to have the majority be stars, and then maybe you have a couple like OG Bachelor in Paradise that would, you know, they would have their biggest stars, and then maybe in the original cast, they would have like one night one early exit person that they thought like had potential that maybe was kind of an interesting thing.

Like, there's a do you think that Justin and Andrew were like, we're only going to go if one of our boys goes?

Like, you think they're like Justin Package?

I'm only going if Andrew goes, or I'm only going if Greg goes.

I think they were, I think casting was desperate for people and they got asked.

I think they paid him a lot of money.

Greg would have been a big one.

I think I'm good on that.

Yeah.

I feel like there's not a lot of younger

female contestants.

I don't know.

I guess I just have to watch it and wait and see.

I just feel like the goldens are throwing me off because then it's like in my mind, I'm pairing them up with each other.

And then I'm pairing off the three people that I recognize.

Like, I don't know.

Well, we just have to see because it's given hot mess.

Well, thank you guys for listening.

Thank you to our guest, Dasha.

Be sure to check out the Going Deeper episode with Sherry Papini.

We have a great week lined up next week as well.

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