E950 - Love Island USA w/ Belle-A, The Valley, Bachelor in Paradise Cast, Brit Eady’s Lawsuit & Next Gen NYC

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Speaker 4 What's going on, everybody? Welcome back to another exciting episode of the Vile Files Reality Recap Edition. I'm your host, Nick, and boy, do we have a jam-packed episode for you today?

Speaker 4 The iconic Belle Dasha joins the Vile Files.

Speaker 3 Bella from Love Island.

Speaker 4 However you refer to her, she is with us today, fresh off of her premature exit on Love Island.

Speaker 4 She came serving. She came in hot, and she gave us some

Speaker 4 a lot of juicy BTS.

Speaker 3 A little tea.

Speaker 4 And excited for you all to hear that. We will be breaking down the past few episodes of Love Island as well.
Like Ace, I don't know, man.

Speaker 4 I'm a little nervous for Shelly too. I don't know.
I think they might be. Not a fan.
I think they might be in cahoots. I don't know.
We got, what do we got? We We got some Valley talk.

Speaker 5 Bachelor in Paradise news.

Speaker 4 Bachelor in Paradise released their very unimpressive cast. So yeah, just no star power.

Speaker 3 I mean, they were like, our star, Dale Moss. And it was like, really?

Speaker 4 I realize they haven't announced this person, but this person will be entering their villa, so to speak. I'm assuming early, who I think is the biggest star of their cast.
And I don't know why.

Speaker 4 I mean, already a huge miss by the producers by not putting this person in the OG cast

Speaker 4 because

Speaker 4 it's just lacking star power. You know, like Andrew and Justin are their biggest stars, and they're from several seasons ago, and that's not how they should be doing it.
We'll watch it.

Speaker 4 We're rooting for them. But

Speaker 4 I have my concerns. We shall see.
Many of you have already listened to the Sherry Papini episode that dropped yesterday. It is certainly a doozy.
Check it out if you haven't.

Speaker 4 If you are a true crime junkie, you certainly know what we're talking about. And if you dabble in true crime, it's certainly an episode you will not want to miss.
A complicated, messy character.

Speaker 3 I have to say, I do have to give us props because it's

Speaker 3 literally because it's like, it's hard to interview someone from, like, I give props to a bunch of like journalists, you know, like news anchors, like people who interview people.

Speaker 3 without having any sort of opinion, you know, trying to like be as unbiased as possible.

Speaker 4 And I think we're not having an opinion, but trying to go in

Speaker 3 to not show that opinion.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I'm great.

Speaker 4 I'm grateful for our opportunity to obviously have this show for a lot of different reasons and our ability to interview

Speaker 4 fascinating and even sometimes controversial people to see if there's more to the story. And being able to storytell on this show is something I think we enjoy the most.

Speaker 4 But she is certainly a complicated character. It is definitely a weird vibe in the room.
I'll say that much interviewing her.

Speaker 4 She, I think she, I think she felt my

Speaker 3 Nick's always bad cop. I'm always good cop.

Speaker 4 I don't know if you were a good cop, but like you definitely were offering more

Speaker 4 opportunity for grace than I was. I just, you know, when she started bringing up all the people in the neighborhood, like, I, it just got to listen to it.

Speaker 3 It's out. Go listen.
Leia, have you ever left Louie?

Speaker 5 For like a weekend? Gone on a trip?

Speaker 3 Like a trip. Yeah.
Like, has he ever spent a year?

Speaker 4 Like on a park bench, you know,

Speaker 5 just like um in a hotel room and said peace? No, no, I haven't.

Speaker 3 You haven't. Well, we obviously like don't

Speaker 3 we go on you know, vacations, just Nick and I, very uh, you know, not often, but um, we're back in Vancouver, clearly, for

Speaker 3 work and we are coming back for only two days. And so, we're like, Mom, River, you just stay at the house, like, we don't need to bring all of you out here.

Speaker 3 And last night, we sleep with the nana on, obviously, like, listening to River in her room.

Speaker 3 And I wake up, she's screaming, crying. And I'm like, oh my God.

Speaker 3 Oh, my God. My mom comes in.
My mom gets her. She like takes her out of the room, I guess, like into her room because she was like scared I was going to hear it.

Speaker 3 And then I can hear it far enough in the back. And then she comes back into River's room.
She starts rocking her. And I'm like through the nanet, being like,

Speaker 3 like trying to calm her down through the, through the monitor.

Speaker 5 And it's just, it's like, I think it's getting hard.

Speaker 3 It's tough. It's getting hard.

Speaker 4 Shout out, Nanet, though.

Speaker 4 You know, having us stay connected to our daughter. This morning, because I'm the one who usually wakes up and gets River out of bed.

Speaker 4 This morning I woke up to hearing River saying, dada, like calling me, like, dada, I'm like, I'm ready to get up. And I was just like, broke my heart.
I couldn't go get up and get her.

Speaker 4 It's like my favorite part of the day, waking up and greeting my daughter.

Speaker 6 I do have a question, actually. So when you talk to your babies over like like the camera or the Nanit, does that scare them?

Speaker 6 Because I've seen the videos where babies think it's like a ghost or like a demon or someone talking to them.

Speaker 3 I don't think she knows what a ghost and or demon is.

Speaker 3 Thankfully.

Speaker 3 She does like look up at the monitor and I'm sure she is very confused. I think it more so scares like.
my mom, like whoever's with her. My scared Mally was so true.

Speaker 3 We told that story where I thought literally someone had hacked into our baby camera and I had unplugged everything and like ran out of the room sobbing.

Speaker 4 I definitely, it was definitely my confused.

Speaker 3 This is Nick going, hello.

Speaker 3 I was like, I'm out.

Speaker 4 But, you know, like River, she's definitely not an iPad baby, but like she is a FaceTime baby. You know, we FaceTime my parents often.
Nally FaceTimes Chambliss or her mom when she's out of town.

Speaker 4 So, you know, and obviously the few times we have left River with Nally's mom, we will FaceTime her a lot.

Speaker 4 So she certainly is comfortable with like understanding, you know, we're behind the screen or talking on the phone.

Speaker 3 River River loves to pretend she's taking phone calls with anything that she can find remote, anything is hello up to her ear. And so

Speaker 3 she's a genius. She's really cute.
Yeah. Which brings us to Olivia Munn doesn't let her kids watch Miss Rachel.

Speaker 3 She said, I know kids love Miss Rachel, but the thing is, if I can't watch it, I'm not going to spend the rest of my life going crazy. These kids' shows drive me crazy.

Speaker 3 Which honestly is so valid. Like if you're going to have to sit in the room and like fold laundry and have it on the TV, like, if you can't stand it, then, like, yeah, sorry.
Really? I don't know.

Speaker 4 I mean, listen, funny anecdote, but like, how serious is this take? Is it like, if anything, she doesn't enjoy?

Speaker 3 Because, like, I think Olivia is just saying that it's a little annoying. It's like, colors, yellow, orange.
I get it. I'm good.

Speaker 4 But so is all of Rivers' like little toys and music that you buy her and she presses and it drives us crazy. Like, we take that.

Speaker 3 That plays for like 10 seconds. This is a 45-minute episode.

Speaker 5 Welcome to our learning barn. We have lots to show you.

Speaker 3 No?

Speaker 3 Her quote, though, saying that her son asked for blues clues recently, and she says, I don't know who showed him blues clues, but they are on my shit list now. I said, hell no, not in my house.

Speaker 4 What is she showing me?

Speaker 3 There's so many kid shows out there.

Speaker 4 They're all annoying.

Speaker 3 She said, I put on Tom Holland's Spider-Man Homecoming. I was like, if you want to watch the real life ones, then we can watch that.

Speaker 3 It might be a little too old for him, but I can't take the cartoons. honestly

Speaker 3 bring back barney i can't wait to re-watch spongebob you guys oh that'll be fun yeah you can i a lot of kids want to watch it all the time wait my like nieces are like not allowed to watch spongebob is that is has it i wasn't allowed to

Speaker 4 i hate and not allowed to watch spongebob kid i'm uh you weren't your family wasn't either right I wouldn't have been allowed to watch SpongeBob, but we didn't even have cable, so that wasn't even an option.

Speaker 4 But like, my parents were definitely anti those shows. I mean, a lot of those shows are embedded with like adult humor.

Speaker 4 and like I definitely don't want River watching shows that have like kids like talk about so many of like the Nickelodeon Disney shows like parents are stupid and kids are smart and I'm not down for that.

Speaker 4 Or like Disney teaches their kids not to respect like your elders.

Speaker 3 Or it's like mischievous kids like always like making messes or like doing crazy experiments. And it's like, can you just go outside and play with rocks?

Speaker 8 I mean, I watched all those shows. I turned out fine.

Speaker 3 Have you like started Louis on any on any like screen time or movies? Or like, have you introduced any of that to him yet?

Speaker 5 No, none of that yet, but definitely a lot of FaceTime. He loves FaceTiming.
Like the second my mom gets on there, he laughs hysterically.

Speaker 3 He finds it so.

Speaker 6 I have every single Barney DVD and I will happily let you.

Speaker 5 I do not have a DVD player.

Speaker 3 Literally, definitely do not have a DVD player.

Speaker 3 Look, I'll bring you a DVD player.

Speaker 5 Do not have a cassette player.

Speaker 3 I've been offered those.

Speaker 4 Where are these DVDs, Justin?

Speaker 6 I I was obsessed with Barney growing up, and I think Barney taught me a lot.

Speaker 8 I had a personalized Barney VHS tape that, like, that was like, it's, like, said my birthday.

Speaker 4 And by personalized, like, the, the, the, it was like a birthday present for me.

Speaker 4 Are you familiar with his content?

Speaker 8 It was like, you can, like, it was like, you could put, or maybe it was Dora. It was like Dora or something where it was.
It's a TV itself. It was a VHS.
It wasn't even a DVD.

Speaker 8 And it was like, I think it was like, you can probably order it online or something.

Speaker 6 I had a birthday one too, and he sings happy birthday to you.

Speaker 3 That's probably worth a lot of money nowadays. I bet you could get on eBay.

Speaker 4 It was a cameo og cameo it was a cameo og cameo so what is this gypsy rose headline is like she's is she doing something wrong is the salon trolling her

Speaker 6 so i kind of went down like a rabbit hole because basically so gypsy rose was just doing a teddy bear brand like trend she was dying her hair so she went to a hair store to buy the stuff but she didn't know that the store was for like estheticians only so you needed a license to shop there okay but the person that was like working that shift or whatever let her still buy the stuff So she posted it, like bought the products, here's everything.

Speaker 6 Then the company came out and responded being like,

Speaker 6 we proudly support licensed beauty pros in the professional beauty industry.

Speaker 6 Though we are in the initial stages of our investigation, we found recently that a celebrity was able to shop in one of our B2B stores.

Speaker 6 Please know we are conducting a thorough investigation and we'll put appropriate measures in place to ensure it does not happen again. Oh my God.

Speaker 6 And then she had to respond to the comment being like, I apologize. I didn't know.
I was unaware. The lady like let me know and let me just complete my purchase, but like noted.

Speaker 6 And like now people speculate the person was fired. So it's like, it's just a random like, what?

Speaker 3 Why are they being so like

Speaker 3 intense about it?

Speaker 3 We're conducting a thorough investigation. It's like, I don't know, maybe have a key code scanning to get in the front door.

Speaker 4 Right. Yeah, they take themselves very seriously.

Speaker 3 Yeah, like most beauty supply places, it's like they get a discount for being

Speaker 3 a salon owner or like a esthetician, but I am like, they usually charge people just like the normal price.

Speaker 6 They don't though. So specific stores, because I have my contact, like you get the products for so much cheaper, but it's supposed to like benefit people that have salons.

Speaker 3 That's what I'm saying. Like, she should have had it to give a number.

Speaker 4 It's giving wedding industry where they pretend that they can do something that no one else can do, and they like you know, and keep it insulated and have all these rules.

Speaker 3 You're like, these are our rules.

Speaker 4 Yeah, just because, like, this is how it is, you know, and can't possibly do that.

Speaker 3 So, anyways, did you see this? Uh,

Speaker 3 did you see uh Sarah Jessica Parker and like how she interacts with fans? I did not. Have you seen this? No.

Speaker 5 Oh, my goodness.

Speaker 3 So

Speaker 3 this woman like came up to her and just said,

Speaker 3 can I take a photo of you?

Speaker 3 Or

Speaker 4 with you? There's a huge difference.

Speaker 3 This says, can I take your picture?

Speaker 4 See, that's weird. Like

Speaker 4 when people walk up every blue moon and someone says, can I take a picture with you? No problem. Let's do a selfie together.
I'm in the photo.

Speaker 4 Someone's standing there and just like, nope, no, I'm just going to take a picture of you is very weird.

Speaker 3 Very weird.

Speaker 4 I agree. And I'm like, no, why don't you come? Why don't you get in it?

Speaker 3 You know, just like, I feel like it's usually because, like, maybe they'd feel like they don't look very good. So they're like, yeah.
You know, I don't know.

Speaker 4 But of you and with you are two different things.

Speaker 3 So Sarah Jessica Parker explains why she turns down the fan selfie. She said, Here's what I've been trying to do because I was just at the airport on Friday.

Speaker 3 A woman came up to me and she didn't say hello. She just said, Can I take your picture? And I said, We didn't even meet.
You didn't even introduce yourself. What's your name?

Speaker 3 After learning the fan's name, Parker then suggested that the two have a conversation rather than taking a photo. I guarantee you it's going to be so much more meaningful.

Speaker 3 But no one's going to believe her. That's the only issue.

Speaker 3 She's going to go home. She's going to be like, listen to the conversation I have with Sarah just because Parker, and they're going to be like, proof?

Speaker 3 And she'll be like, well, yeah, she told me this was more meaningful.

Speaker 3 I don't have proof, but

Speaker 3 she thankfully finds this article and is like, see proof. Literally.

Speaker 3 Literally.

Speaker 3 No, she's kicking her feet, jumping up and down. She's so excited for this article.

Speaker 3 I'm not a liar.

Speaker 5 This article is better than a photo.

Speaker 3 It is.

Speaker 3 It is. Because you're not.

Speaker 4 People get nervous when they meet you.

Speaker 4 Sorry if they didn't introduce themselves. You know, like give them.

Speaker 4 I'm sorry. You didn't even introduce yourself.
Like, okay. Thanks for the lecture on etiquette.

Speaker 3 Jesus.

Speaker 6 I agree with her, though.

Speaker 3 I agree with her, but I'm also kind of like, for someone who doesn't see like famous people a lot or anything, like the muster up the courage to be able to go ask for a photo.

Speaker 6 Like versus in LA, I'm just like, love your content.

Speaker 3 It is all

Speaker 4 predicated on the idea that, like, they don't like photos taken of them if they're not in, like, full glam and, like, have their basically face costume on.

Speaker 3 I don't think Sarah Jessica Parker is like that. I think it's, it's probably.

Speaker 4 Then why wouldn't she take a selfie?

Speaker 3 Because I think she's, she's getting into this stage of life, I feel like, where, like, you've seen her on red carpets where people want to be like, oh, did you see Jenna Ortega wearing the dress from, and she's like, do you want to ask me about something else like I think she's getting to the point in life where she's just kind of like over maybe the sex in the city-ness of it all I don't know that's kind of what it's giving I think she's over the drama I mean she's in and just like that but that's not sex in the city I mean like I don't know it's just it's giving it's giving like I mean listen I don't know like part of being famous is having fans like and and you know I don't know.

Speaker 4 It takes two seconds to take a selfie. It took her more energy to lecture this fan.

Speaker 3 Yeah. I bet you this fan will never go up to another celebrity ever again.

Speaker 3 Or, like, what if she goes up to the now and be like, hi, my name is and I work for

Speaker 3 her

Speaker 3 picture?

Speaker 3 Like, I don't want to have a whole conversation with you. I'm going to rush.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 The next time she does this, she's going to get the exact opposite lecture. It's going to be like, listen, I'll take a picture with you.

Speaker 3 I don't need your whole life story. I have to make my flight.
Could you imagine? She's like, no, Sarah Jessica Parker taught me to do it like this.

Speaker 3 And it starts like, yeah, I should treat celebrities.

Speaker 3 Yeah, where's your proof shows U.S.

Speaker 6 weekly a headline?

Speaker 3 Oh my God, that's crazy. I mean, when people come up to us,

Speaker 4 no one introduces themselves ever. And I'm always just like, oh, what's your name? Because like, again,

Speaker 3 they're nervous.

Speaker 4 They don't know what to say.

Speaker 6 Did you see Demi from Mormon Wives spoke out and said why she didn't attend the reunion? I did see that.

Speaker 3 Yeah. What are your thoughts on that?

Speaker 5 She said that she was invited, but that it was short notice. And the only day they could get the location secured was the day that her and her entire family were going to Disneyland.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I mean, I do know people in production have mixed feelings about this. Like I said before, Demi is in

Speaker 4 a way, very much a part of the reunion. And you will have the opportunity to hear from Demi herself in a way.

Speaker 3 In a way. In a way.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I mean, you know, listen, like all of these, all of the women of the cast were gifted this opportunity to take their family to Disney.

Speaker 4 And they had the opportunity to pick whatever date they wanted. Now, when Demi picked the date versus when the reunion was scheduled, I don't know.

Speaker 3 Obviously, taking her word for it. Disneyland offered them all to come?

Speaker 4 Well, Hulu, you know, ABC Disney,

Speaker 4 part of the family. I think all of these women were given the opportunity to

Speaker 4 go and have a Disney experience with their family, all of them. And they could just pick a date.
They could go whenever they wanted.

Speaker 4 This happened to be the date.

Speaker 6 They were all posting at Disney. Yeah.

Speaker 3 This happened to be the date that

Speaker 3 Demi picked.

Speaker 4 I think many of her cast feel that it was not as random as Demi suggested, but you know, I guess that's more.

Speaker 3 I mean, how far in advance did she know the date of the filming reunion? I don't know. That's you know, I don't know.

Speaker 5 So, she took the free Disneyland trip.

Speaker 3 She said we had already booked all of our flights, and the Airbnb was non-refundable. And if we know anything about that, that's true.
That's you know, or I would have moved the trip to be there.

Speaker 3 I tried to have production move it to another day, and they couldn't swing it.

Speaker 4 I don't think anyone in the cast feels like Demi was upset about not being there.

Speaker 3 But

Speaker 6 got it. It was a good excuse, is what you're saying.

Speaker 4 Yeah, but there's no proof to suggest that her story is untrue. But you will want to watch Dream, I promise you that.
And

Speaker 4 Demi is very much addressed.

Speaker 5 Did they offer you guys Disneyland tickets and see the host?

Speaker 3 No, actually. What the fuck? What happened with that?

Speaker 4 I said, don't offer, please.

Speaker 5 Nick was like, actually, I'm allergic.

Speaker 3 Sierra and I will, Sierra and I, and Justin will take River. I'll go.

Speaker 4 Absolutely. Many of you know we've been in Whistler a little bit recently.
And every restaurant in Whistler, when you show up, will ask you if you have any allergies.

Speaker 4 Like, you get it, you know, can I have a table for two? Do you have any food allergies?

Speaker 4 No. And then I asked for no sauce on my burger, and it came with sauce.
And I was like, oh, there's sauce on here. Can you take it back? And she kind of looked at me and I was like, I'm allergic.

Speaker 3 And I was like, oh, shit.

Speaker 5 She was probably like, why didn't you?

Speaker 4 I got caught in a lie. I got caught a lot.

Speaker 3 Don't they do that here too, though? Not like in Whistler.

Speaker 4 I mean, every single restaurant, it was like part of like.

Speaker 3 They definitely should be doing that everywhere.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I like that. I like they get ahead of it.
It's like, do you have any allergies? Do you not like anything?

Speaker 3 Do you like do you want a different server? Are you not a fan of me? Do you hate my outfit?

Speaker 5 Tell me everything up front so that we don't have to deal with this later.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 6 Service is really nice in Whistler, I will say, because when I I was like hunting down Wi-Fi, like I was asking them some outrageous questions.

Speaker 6 I was like, is the room facing the north sky with no clouds?

Speaker 3 Oh my God.

Speaker 6 And they would look at me like, um, you sound crazy, but I'll check.

Speaker 3 Yeah, like, let me find out for you. I'm going to go up to the room really quick.

Speaker 5 Can you guys just like off the top of your head point north?

Speaker 3 No. Straight in front of me is what I always think.

Speaker 5 No, like, can you just like point north? I can.

Speaker 3 Point north, Nick, right now. Do you know where north is?

Speaker 4 When you're in a room in a city you're not familiar with, try it.

Speaker 3 Point north right now. I couldn't possibly.

Speaker 3 I always think it's right in front of me, which I know is definitely wrong. No, it's not.
Well, I think about where the, I think that's west.

Speaker 3 I know, so I'm like, wow, I'm face to this way. I think that's west.
North.

Speaker 3 Nevertheless, that's south. It's hoggy worms.

Speaker 3 Ironically, though, north is right in front of me.

Speaker 5 North is right there, yes.

Speaker 3 The Boy Scout North.

Speaker 5 Well, I always just think about where the ocean is. But if I was somewhere without an ocean.

Speaker 4 And where I grew up, I could always, I knew the directions for sure.

Speaker 3 Is that something? They don't teach that in school? Like, how to read a compass? I don't think I was able to tell you.

Speaker 4 Well, I grew up next to the Great Lakes, and the Great Lakes were always

Speaker 4 east of us.

Speaker 4 So, I always knew where the lake was relative to where I was. And so, from there, I knew my north, south, south, east, and west.

Speaker 4 Yeah, to Leia's point, if you're if you live near a large body of water and you know what direction that body of water is from you, then it's pretty easy, or a landmark, maybe a mountain, you know.

Speaker 3 I'm so bad at uh directions and

Speaker 3 geography I always call it the wrong one I'm always I always I'm really bad at geology

Speaker 3 so

Speaker 3 I always like

Speaker 3 I'm so bad at geography fuck

Speaker 3 which one is it

Speaker 3 I tell people that I'm like I have a way with GPS that I have to use GPS at least three to five times to be able to get someplace to get there without with like off memory also this is a thing too that people use their GPS and they either like press like they'll enter in the directions and they might press go to get the voice to tell them, or they just look at it and then they keep it on like the map.

Speaker 3 I keep it on the map. I keep it on.
I keep it on the map too.

Speaker 6 I don't press go.

Speaker 3 I don't want to hear her.

Speaker 5 At my last job, I worked there for over a year. And to the day I stopped working there, I used my GPS to get there.

Speaker 3 That's why I did. Don't want to know my biggest pet peeve about Nick.
And I think it's taken over. Yes.

Speaker 3 It's taken over all the rest of us.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Let's hear.
Hey, this is number one. This is number one.
It's moved its way up.

Speaker 3 It's climbed its way up. Is it an egg? It's an egg.
Oh, wow. It's an egg.
wait wait

Speaker 3 it boils my blood yeah go what do you think it is should we all get literally everyone gets

Speaker 4 i don't want to i don't want to out myself

Speaker 3 okay leo what do you

Speaker 3 leo what do you think it is oh my god i'm not playing this game

Speaker 3 yeah i don't support what do you think it is

Speaker 3 i know it's not the cabinets yeah we've moved on from the cabinets like that's just an everything i've gotten so used to the fridge being open and microwave being open that it hasn't even phased me.

Speaker 3 I'm guessing how it's floating in the sea direction.

Speaker 3 Yes, it floats him flying up in his seat over the speed bump. I need to know.
Okay, what is it? Is he getting a drum roll? Is it like bouncing? Bouncing all the way. No, no, no.

Speaker 3 He does not press the button on the trunk.

Speaker 5 to go to like

Speaker 3 for it to shut he tries to forcefully open and shut the trunk and i'm like there's a button

Speaker 3 just press the button

Speaker 3 he can't he never will. He never has.
It doesn't. He's, he's, we're breaking the trunk every single time.

Speaker 4 It's like a James Bond car. It's like hard to find.
It's like, you know, they want it to be aesthetically pleasing. I don't know what this fucking thing is.

Speaker 3 It like cracks and creaks every time he's trying to jam it shut. I'm like, if you just pressed the button that said close.

Speaker 4 It's my toxic masculinity. It really takes over.
I need to like,

Speaker 3 yeah, you got to hulk it open.

Speaker 3 Anyways, so yeah. I do the same, Nick.
You do, Justin?

Speaker 6 Well, because I'm used to having an old car, so every time I touch someone else's car, I'm like pulling it down, but it's fighting me. Yeah.
And then I give up.

Speaker 6 I give up, but I'm like, oh, didn't get the memo.

Speaker 3 Connect doesn't give up. That's a difference.

Speaker 4 All right. Well, it's time to get into some love islands.
Starting with your first to leave the island, Belle Dasha, joins us for some hot burning tea. She was very delightful.

Speaker 4 I didn't know what to expect, but she was a ton of fun. I'm excited for you guys to listen and hear this conversation.

Speaker 4 And then coming out of our interview with Bell Dasha, we will break down the past few episodes and figure out our Ace and Shelly playing everyone, including the audience.

Speaker 4 And I think you'll find some of Bell Dasha's comments about them very interesting.

Speaker 3 Up next, Belle Dasha.

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Speaker 3 Bell Dasha!

Speaker 3 Welcome to the File Files. We're so excited to have you.

Speaker 4 So excited. Thank you for joining us.

Speaker 10 Hi. Thank you so much for having me.

Speaker 4 Like, are you down for the Bell Dasha name? Do you know that people are calling you that? Like, it's kind of an iconic nickname.

Speaker 10 Honestly, I feel like my name has like been morphing as an adult, and I'm so here for it. I love nicknames, and I love Beldasha.
I feel like it's very elegant and very classy.

Speaker 10 So, yeah, I'm here for it.

Speaker 3 Did you ever expect that to come out of your name going on the show?

Speaker 10 Okay, no, for sure. Like, some people have called me like B-dash before too.

Speaker 10 So, I was like, you know, Beldasha, B-dash.

Speaker 10 like there's lots of different names for me okay okay have you always had the dash in your name yes so oh well kind of sometimes like people will just type Bella like B E L L A

Speaker 10 and like that that works too you know but if we're trying to be

Speaker 10 proper about it, then it's it's with the dash and only with the dash. Gotta put some respect on that dash.

Speaker 4 You heard it here first. It's with the dash.
There's always been a dash. Well, Belle Dasha, again, we're so excited to have you.
I got to say, I'm sad to see you go.

Speaker 3 You and me both.

Speaker 4 I thought it was a, you know, as far as like first eliminations, like sometimes, you know, even last season, as popular last season was, I don't remember who was first eliminated.

Speaker 4 It's like there's such a long season, but like you really made your mark. I felt like you were a star in the making.
You were wildly talked about. You got a ton of screen time.

Speaker 4 And then all of a sudden, poof, you're gone.

Speaker 10 So sad to see you go but at least congrats on like in your limited time making such an impact on the show thank you so much and i will say that that's definitely not how i was feeling through this whole process i i felt like i was very small and like my voice was very silenced and i wasn't feeling seen and i think like it really did take a minute for me to finally break out of my shell and i felt like people got to see my boundaries, but people didn't get to see my character.

Speaker 10 And there's so much more to me than just my boundaries, you know?

Speaker 4 Okay. Well, no doubt, no doubt.
And that's why we're excited for you to join with us. We're hoping to get to know you a little bit better.

Speaker 4 I think there was a little surprise early on when you swerved for the first kiss and you're like, I don't kiss in the first date. And we were like, do you know what show you signed up for, Beldasha?

Speaker 4 But in all seriousness, like, how long were you planning not kissing someone? Like, given just like these, the games and the contests, there seemed to be like full-on makeouts.

Speaker 4 You know, they, they really pushed those, those, uh, those limits pretty quickly. So, like, what was your plan going in or if you had a plan at all? And what changed that?

Speaker 10 Um, so I've always had this rule, like no kissing on the first date. And to be honest, I didn't know what I was going to do until it really came down to it on the first day.

Speaker 10 I have imagined, because it is Love Island, and I know that's what I signed up for.

Speaker 10 I knew that there was a big possibility that that would arise and I just knew that I wanted to stay true to who I am and the boundaries that I've set, not just on the outside world, but even in this unfamiliar environment, I knew that I still had to be who I am.

Speaker 10 in there too.

Speaker 10 So yeah, I definitely knew that I was going to face that. But on the first day, it was a little wild.
And honestly, I think it was a really great opportunity to like lay it down.

Speaker 10 Like, hey, this is who I am. This is what I'm about.
Maybe they don't understand it in that moment, but hey, like, come find out why.

Speaker 3 I think it also made that challenge like that more fun because it was like, whoa, here she is, you know.

Speaker 10 I think one of my fellow islanders was like, oh, is this prom? And I'm like, yeah, it does feel a little bit like prom right now.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 4 I know it was like a quick, I'm sure it was all like a blink of the eye, but in the limited time of the men that you kissed, who was the best kisser?

Speaker 10 Oh, I'm gonna be so honest and say that I completely blanked out during the challenge.

Speaker 10 And one thing like people don't see is there was like popcorn in my mouth that was just being like exchanged between guy to guy.

Speaker 10 We were all like slimy and gross.

Speaker 10 And there was a lot of adrenaline. I was obviously very nervous because it was the first time I was going to be kissing these guys and I was like, oh, this is kind of a, you know, a unique situation.

Speaker 10 I would never in the outside world kiss four guys in one day. Right.
So I definitely stepped out of my comfort zone for that one. Period.

Speaker 3 Hell yeah. Where is your accent from? I must say.

Speaker 3 Yes.

Speaker 10 Oh,

Speaker 10 I don't. I don't think I have one, but I will say I am first generation American.
My mom was born in the Philippines and I have spent a lot of my time in my adult life around

Speaker 10 like Native Hawaiians. So I feel like maybe it's just like bits and pieces from like Philippines, Hawaii,

Speaker 10 and then like just the slang of Oregonians and the slang of maybe online.

Speaker 3 TikTok.

Speaker 10 I think like when I'm around my

Speaker 10 local friends in Hawaii, like it comes out a lot thicker. Sure.
But then when I'm around other people who maybe don't have as thick of an accent, then I feel like I revert to like

Speaker 10 no accent.

Speaker 3 No, I'm no, yeah, yeah, I'm the same way. I'm from the South.
And when I talk to people not from the South, I have this voice. And then when I'm back home, I am very, very Southern.

Speaker 3 So I totally understand. Did you, in the moment of the elimination, that, how that whole process went where

Speaker 3 Nick took you up to Soul Ties, he asked you to like run back, fourth base, and then he's there giving that speech. And he's like, when we shared that moment, and then he pauses.

Speaker 3 Like, did any of that looking back, did you feel manipulated at any moment?

Speaker 10 Oh, 100%.

Speaker 10 Yes. I will preface this by saying that there is no love lost.
And I will never drag Nick for what he did, but he absolutely did make it seem like he might have picked me that night.

Speaker 10 And also what the viewers haven't really seen is like the conversations that were shown between Nick and I were the most basic of like surface level conversations. We had deeper conversations.

Speaker 10 We had a deeper connection. And, you know, he did have a solid connection between Sierra and I.
And I don't blame him being stuck in between two tens. Like this is not a real world problem for Nick.

Speaker 10 So I think that he was eating it up. And I definitely called him out.
by saying, I think it's stroking your ego a little bit. So he felt like that wasn't the case for him.

Speaker 10 But I genuinely think it was a little difficult. And I did encourage him to explore all the connections and test them to the deepest level.
And that's exactly what he did.

Speaker 10 And ultimately, he chose Sierra. And I'm not a sore loser.
I'm so happy for them. I think Sierra is a lovely, lovely person.
But was I being misled the entire process?

Speaker 10 Absolutely. Otherwise, I wouldn't have, I would have backed off, you know? And watching back, it really frustrates me because I feel like his mind was made up since the moment he met Sierra.

Speaker 10 So like, that's okay, but communicate that with me, you know? And that's exactly what he didn't do. And that's all I asked from him since day one.

Speaker 4 If there, if Nick was a little bit more upfront with the way he was leaning, who would you have pursued and at least explored? Because it's so early, right? Like, you know, you barely even knew Nick.

Speaker 4 For all you know, like spending two more days there, you could have realized, oh shit, like Charlie and I are like, we're vibing.

Speaker 10 Okay,

Speaker 10 another little side detail.

Speaker 10 I had amazing chats with the guys in the villa, and the conversations that were shown were unfortunately with. I love Charlie as a person.

Speaker 10 He's hilarious, but that was the least of my connections in that villa.

Speaker 3 How funny. Why does no one like Charlie?

Speaker 10 I feel like he's a charlie he's great but i just got like bestie vibes from him all right and i said that too but that didn't make the cut

Speaker 10 um so the real tea

Speaker 10 taylor and i actually had this like

Speaker 10 undeniable chemistry that wasn't ever shown

Speaker 10 and if anybody else saved me that night it would have been taylor but for me I am such a girl's girl and being a girls girl in that villa is something that's very difficult to do because Alandria, she was my other girl.

Speaker 10 Huda and Alandria were my besties in there. And I think my loyalty to Alandria really, really got in the way of me fully exploring what could have been there with Taylor and I.

Speaker 3 Okay. It must have been easier to be dumped by Nick while he has a massive pimple on his face, no?

Speaker 3 Not the pimple.

Speaker 3 Like,

Speaker 4 there's any part of you who's like, you know what?

Speaker 3 Honestly, send me home send me home i don't

Speaker 10 know we all break out sometimes and obviously he was dealing with a very stressful situation so it is so funny i've why didn't you offer him a pimple patch you know like a little star

Speaker 10 had one on um all throughout the day but i guess he took it off for the recovery i don't know i don't know i would have got that patch

Speaker 3 that's crazy but but no i will say like

Speaker 10 taylor he always had a language excuse me he always had a Elangria in one hand and he would have me in the other. He would help me up and down the stairs.

Speaker 10 He would bring me coffee every single morning. He would ask if I wanted breakfast.
He just like had my back.

Speaker 10 Like even during the recoupling announcement, he grabbed my hand and held on so tight and was like, everything's going to be okay, you know?

Speaker 10 So I, and the last thing he told me was, I'm going to be checking up on you on the outside world.

Speaker 3 Okay.

Speaker 10 If it wasn't Nick, it would have been Taylor.

Speaker 3 Okay. All right.

Speaker 4 Don't tell anyone that.

Speaker 3 Save that for us.

Speaker 3 Look at the exclusive.

Speaker 4 Beldasha, blink twice if you would, if there's any chance you show up at Casa Moore.

Speaker 3 I wish I could blink 10 times.

Speaker 3 That would be

Speaker 3 crazy.

Speaker 10 I feel like it would be such a sick storyline. Like this little shy girl comes in and then finally breaks out of her shell.
Right.

Speaker 3 See, she's all warmed up. Like

Speaker 3 ready to go.

Speaker 3 She's ready to go.

Speaker 10 She's going to do whatever it takes to get into that villa. She's not going to have her girls clouding her judgment.
But and

Speaker 3 you'll be able to see her. That's going to be rated.
You shouldn't watch this. You'll be able to see all the girls and then you'll go back and like Huda and Nelandria are still your girls.

Speaker 3 So you'll be like, let me tell you the actual tea that they're not going to tell you. Could be good.
It could be good.

Speaker 10 I think it could be wild. So, you know, producers, if that opportunity arises,

Speaker 3 right, right, right, right, right.

Speaker 4 We are so down for that, for that to happen.

Speaker 4 Which of the guys makes the best breakfast?

Speaker 10 Okay, this is so funny because it was a huge mystery the entire time of who was making the breakfast. Because I know that the guys would take credit for somebody else's work.

Speaker 10 But watching back, I'm seeing that Ace is the first one in the kitchen. He's the one scrambling all the eggs.

Speaker 10 He's the one one like putting all of the the beautiful like assortments on the plate i am actually a very simple girl and i don't eat breakfast very much so i love a good little peanut butter toast and nick did make me my peanut butter toast

Speaker 10 and he even like cut it up for me which was very sweet

Speaker 10 but Ace made me breakfast one day and I felt bad because I barely touched it. It was like too pretty to eat.
You know, he gave me the fruit. He gave me the alvo toast.

Speaker 10 He gave me the the beautifully scrambled eggs, and I barely touched it.

Speaker 4 Why do you feel like Ace and Shelley didn't hook up or at least like match or pick each other? Because it felt like I felt like that was the direction he was going.

Speaker 4 Watching it back, they both seemed to really connect on a deep level. Like, what do you feel like that was all about?

Speaker 10 Genuinely, I think they could be endgame. I'm going to be so honest.
I don't know how they haven't just clung onto each other because their connection is is undeniable.

Speaker 10 And they actually, like, they've met before.

Speaker 10 And them being in the same place at the same time again in this entire process, I feel like that's fake.

Speaker 3 It definitely means something.

Speaker 10 Shelly is such a beautiful person inside and out, truly, in the way she carries herself. And Ace, he's there and he is, he's playing the game for sure.

Speaker 10 You know, he's getting to know everybody, but I think it's only fair. And he's testing every single one of his connections.

Speaker 10 And I feel like he's doing that so that he can potentially just go all in on Shelly and not be thinking of anybody else in the back of his mind.

Speaker 4 He kind of read my mind in Baldasha. Like, I feel like, I don't know, Ace feels like he has this figured out.
I feel like he knows what he's doing. He's like, maybe like, he's watched the show.

Speaker 4 He's like, he's trying to play chess while everyone's playing checkers. And he's like, you know what? I'm going to, I'm going to wait.
You know, like, I feel he has a quiet confidence about him.

Speaker 4 And I, I, I thought, you know, maybe they'll wait until they need to play that game. To that point, do you feel like Huda and Jeremiah are like a little too hot, too heavy,

Speaker 3 too soon?

Speaker 10 Okay, so that is something that has scared me a little bit because Huda has become my best friend in that villa and Jeremiah has become like my big brother and my wingman.

Speaker 10 And like I have confided in both of them so very much.

Speaker 10 It terrifies me that they just have

Speaker 10 tunnel vision for each other because they're not testing that connection.

Speaker 10 And I'm a little afraid that, you know, maybe when Casa comes around and somebody who is just Jeremiah's type, I'm not saying Huda's not, but if this other Latina with an accent walks in, knows exactly what she wants and it's Jeremiah and Huda is not going to be there to be in the back of his mind.

Speaker 10 it does scare me a little bit that he might fold and i feel like huda as much as she said she's not writing anybody off, she has.

Speaker 10 And so

Speaker 10 it scares me because I don't think there would be another connection to save her. Yeah.
And so I really genuinely do have high hopes for them.

Speaker 10 And I hope that they make it to the end because they are so beautiful and they have grown a lot in such a short

Speaker 10 short amount of time. that I think they do have so much potential in the outside world too.

Speaker 10 But I'm a little nervous for it for them for sure. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Did you ever check Huda on her reaction to the bombshell coming in and participating in the challenge and pulling Jeremy? Just playing the game.

Speaker 3 Was there ever a moment where, because she had a very like reaction. She was like, she's messy.
I don't like her. She's not a good person.
Did you ever have any conversation with her?

Speaker 10 Absolutely. Yeah.
No, Huda confides in me and she did. me more than anybody else.
And in that moment, I was there.

Speaker 10 I was there to be the friend who validated validated her feelings, but also letting her know: like, hey, these girls are coming in here and they deserve a spot in this villa just as much as you and I do.

Speaker 10 And they're going to do anything and everything they can to find those connections because they deserve that. And I did let her know that.

Speaker 10 And after she slept on that for a little bit, something that the viewers didn't get to see is she owned her actions up and down, like four or five times over to Amaya.

Speaker 10 And so, yeah, I was there to like feed into her delusions a little bit and just like validate her because sometimes in the moment, you don't need somebody telling you that you're just in the dead wrong.

Speaker 10 But I did have a little happy medium balance of letting her know that, hey, your feelings are valid.

Speaker 10 But hey, like, let's keep an open mind and an open heart and give these girls a warm welcome like they do deserve.

Speaker 3 Okay. All right.

Speaker 4 Did you catch the part? Because it sounds like you watched it back. Did you catch the part where Jeremiah kind of caught himself and was like, if we win, which kind of gave like, are you here to win?

Speaker 4 Are you here to fall in love? And then he kind of like corrected himself a little bit.

Speaker 10 Being around them,

Speaker 10 I don't know. Unless he really, really, really is dedicated to the bit.

Speaker 10 I would like, I don't see that with him. Like, I don't think he's just here to win.
I want to believe better

Speaker 10 in him than that. because he just does seem so genuinely whipped for her.

Speaker 10 And maybe it is delusional in my mind to think that, but he really just seems like he wants to see things through with Huda and he does seem to genuinely care for her. And

Speaker 10 maybe it's just like me wanting them to work out so bad that I don't want that in my mind. But I don't think so.
I don't think that's his whole goal here.

Speaker 10 I mean, I'm sure that's slightly in the back of anybody's mind in there.

Speaker 3 Like they everybody wants to get out. I get it.

Speaker 4 It's a good answer.

Speaker 3 It's a good answer.

Speaker 10 But I don't think that's his whole goal.

Speaker 3 Okay. Okay.

Speaker 4 Do did the rest of the group refer to Huda and Jeremiah as mom and dad? Like Huda keeps telling us that everyone is referring them to his mom and dad?

Speaker 10 I think she meant the villa as in me.

Speaker 10 I would refer to them as mom and dad. I was sleeping alone in my bed since day two and their bed is right next to mine.

Speaker 10 So I would go and like cuddle up just like right with them and they would both be there to like wipe my tears and and you know maybe feed into my delusions as well.

Speaker 10 Jeremiah really did become like a little wingman for me and would be like a little spy for me. So

Speaker 10 I definitely called them like mom and dad for sure. I don't know about anybody else, but

Speaker 10 I could say for myself.

Speaker 3 I don't know if you heard it in the moment or if you've seen it when you watched it back.

Speaker 3 And I don't know if she had any malicious intent, but when Sierra sat down after that recoupling, knowing you were going home and she looked over at Nick and said, good job.

Speaker 3 Did that hurt your feelings?

Speaker 10 It didn't really

Speaker 10 rub me the right way when she said that. To be honest with you,

Speaker 10 this is tough because Sarah and I, we did develop a friendship and she is just the sweetest person on the inside and out.

Speaker 10 And like I said, I do understand why Nick would be so torn between us, but there were moments that I didn't know happen,

Speaker 10 like her kind of like confiding in the other girls, saying how she was feeling, and then telling Nick how she was like uneasy about me and things like that, that I never got.

Speaker 10 Yeah. So I don't know, seeing all of the conversations being held behind closed doors, that definitely opens up my mind a little bit more.
But once again, we're all there for the same reason.

Speaker 10 And I don't think she meant any malicious intent. Like, what do you say after that? Like, I'm so happy you chose me.
Like, I don't know. Like, you know, I don't know what I would say either.
either.

Speaker 10 So I don't think she meant any ill intentions.

Speaker 4 Do you think she should have had more of a reaction? Because it seemed like she wasn't all that bothered when she found out that you and Nick had that sexy makeout that you did after she picked.

Speaker 4 And she, she almost tried to blow it off. Do you feel like she's just like kind of trying to forget about it? Or like, yeah, what did you think of that reaction?

Speaker 10 I think

Speaker 10 in this point, I think she really wants to see it through with him. And like, I I kind of want to put myself in her shoes and wonder how I would react as well.

Speaker 10 Because I didn't know what was happening and I didn't know they shared that moment in the photo booth like that. Five minutes after we had our moment in Soltai, that was diabolical.

Speaker 4 I mean, that saliva was still up in that mouth of his.

Speaker 3 That was crazy.

Speaker 10 Yeah, I'm like, oh, I feel like maybe I kissed Sierra too, right? The saliva's still there.

Speaker 10 But, like, it's so early on, and oh, y'all want some tea.

Speaker 4 Only if you promise to save it for us.

Speaker 3 Okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 10 Nick has been in an open relationship before, and that was one of the first things he told me within our first conversation. And I don't know why I didn't raise a red flag to that right away.

Speaker 10 But I feel like him having Sierra and I maybe gave him a little bit of a taste from his past.

Speaker 3 Yeah, he like felt right at home.

Speaker 3 Yeah, this man wasn't homesick at all.

Speaker 4 All right. One last question before we have to let you go, Bella, about Belladash.
And I want to thank you. You've been so generous.
And we love you. Thank you so much for taking the time.

Speaker 4 Having been on your side of things, I've realized watching back that like some people like look different on TV than they do in person. Some people look kind of, they look hotter.

Speaker 4 Some people look better in person or better on TV. What is your opinion having seen people on from behind the screen, having met them in person? Like, is Jeremiah as smoking hot as he looks on RTV?

Speaker 10 Oh, for sure. Jeremiah's fine and he knows he's fine.
And Hudda is absolutely stunning. She looks exactly like she does in person, like on screen as well.

Speaker 3 So I don't know.

Speaker 10 I think that

Speaker 10 I thought that going into this, that maybe people do look a lot better on screen. But now being on both sides of it, I don't think there were any catfishes there whatsoever.

Speaker 3 Maybe I was. No,

Speaker 3 no.

Speaker 10 But I think that everybody really was just like, they were good looking.

Speaker 3 They went through it.

Speaker 4 And do you think, like, one more, like, Charlie, like, what I know you mentioned you guys were just friends, but like, I he seems like a, you know, taller, tall, dark, and handsome, good-looking guy.

Speaker 4 And it really felt like all you women were just more like, eh.

Speaker 10 I don't know what to say to this one. I feel like maybe it's just the energy that he brings that just says friend all over it.
But you know what? He, he got a little more

Speaker 10 from Hannah, and that's what matters. I think that everything happens for a reason.
And I think Hannah and Charlie were placed in the villa at the times they were absolutely to like find each other.

Speaker 10 Hannah didn't have to fight any girl for her man.

Speaker 3 True.

Speaker 10 And they deserve each other.

Speaker 10 I don't know how well the connection is going to hold up because I feel like they are very infatuated with each other right now and they are in the little honeymoon phase, which is super fun, light, and flirty.

Speaker 10 But it will be interesting to see what happens when a hot new male bombshell walks through those doors gunning for Hannah.

Speaker 10 Because Charlie wasn't fully on Hannah's radar until she had a conversation with him.

Speaker 3 Okay, and I'm very excited for Casa Moore. I feel like we're going to see a lot of cracks.

Speaker 4 Well, I hope we see you there.

Speaker 3 And we hope we see you there. We hope you see you there.

Speaker 4 I hope you make an appearance on movie night, uh, Beldasha. Thank you so much.
Congratulations on what was short, but certainly an impactful time on Love Island.

Speaker 4 And congratulations on all your success. Excited to see more of you.
Thank you for your time and for the tea.

Speaker 10 Thank you guys so much. I feel blessed to be here.
And I hope you have a wonderful rest of your day.

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Speaker 3 Okay. What did we think? What a sweetheart.
She's the best.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I'm

Speaker 4 more sad that she left after interviewing with her.

Speaker 4 She just needed a warm-up, you know?

Speaker 3 That's why I think she's going to be really great and cost that more.

Speaker 4 I don't think she's, I don't think, I don't think they would have let us interviewed her if she was coming back.

Speaker 5 I'm sad that they didn't show us more of her and Taylor's relationship.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 What? That is interesting. Her being like, if Nick didn't, like, like, Taylor would have saved me, which is like interesting.

Speaker 3 Because we've seen him this far be like, I don't have a physical connection with Elandria.

Speaker 4 So, like, I wonder if that was with not Nick leading with, he's been in an open relationship, is like, if it's, if, if, if that was like some kind of asset on Love Island.

Speaker 4 He's like, don't worry, I'm used to dating multiple women.

Speaker 3 That's cool. I'm good.
Oh, thank God. And then was the only one

Speaker 3 was the only one in a love triangle. Like,

Speaker 3 it's like clearly didn't know how to handle it. Right.
And then you have Austin on the complete opposite end that's just like, I'm in a love triangle and I don't want to be here.

Speaker 3 Have y'all seen, I was telling Nick about it last night, this trend on TikTok that's like,

Speaker 3 I wish Love Island was like the Hunger Games and we could drop in like survival kits. For them and they were like for Huda, we're dropping her some mood stabilizers

Speaker 3 We're dropping Nick pimple patches for Nick pimple patches for Jeremiah's head, a t-shirt that says, I'm not the stepfather. I'm the father that stepped up.

Speaker 3 Oh, my God.

Speaker 5 I have a theory, though.

Speaker 3 What?

Speaker 5 I think Ace is into Huda.

Speaker 3 Really? Okay.

Speaker 3 I do. I can kind of see that because he really is focused on their relationship.
Really, really focusing too much on their relationship.

Speaker 5 He really doesn't want Jeremy.

Speaker 4 That's an interesting theory, but you don't think the theory is...

Speaker 5 He's trying to get into Jeremiah's head.

Speaker 4 I think he's in it to win it more than anyone else. And by win it, I mean like win, not like fall in love or meet a person.
I don't know.

Speaker 4 It just seems a little shady that the established influencer, YouTube star who found his way onto a reality TV show is already a bit of a red flag.

Speaker 4 And then the one lady that he's already met in person, how long or how much, whether it was a brief, you know, meetup or they actually knew each other, I don't know.

Speaker 4 And then they just seem like they're playing everyone.

Speaker 4 Like that was so messed up to like match with Amaya and then immediately be like, I'm all for like setting up for expectations and boundaries and just like establishing where you stand.

Speaker 4 But he was like, oh, anyways, so excited to get to know you, but like, don't touch me, don't look at me, don't talk to me. Like, I definitely want to date other people.

Speaker 3 That was babe.

Speaker 4 It was just like, it was just mean. That's like, that's not.

Speaker 5 You don't dare expect me to say goodnight to you.

Speaker 4 Yeah. It was just like, whoa.
It's like, and the way he like talks down to some of these women when he had a confrontation with her, he's like, so this is how it's going to go. I'm going to talk.

Speaker 4 You're going to talk. We're going to hear.
It's just like, bro, like, I don't know, gotta get over yourself. Like, and again, like, I don't know, it's just kind of given Napoleon.

Speaker 4 It's just, I don't know, it's a little too aggressive.

Speaker 3 It's very condescending.

Speaker 5 Yeah, he's also like, really just, it's such a slap in the face to Austin, him planning this yoga date, like, right in front of his face. It's like, okay, I get it.
You can be into Shelly.

Speaker 5 We've only a couple days in, but just tell Austin, be like, yo, I'm, I'm still going to pursue it.

Speaker 3 He's being so weird with being like, I'm going to take a girl to yoga. It's like, bro, just like, yeah, why, just just say it.
And set it up in the center of the villa, by the way. Yeah.

Speaker 3 It's so simple.

Speaker 5 She's in the middle of making Austin breakfast.

Speaker 4 Also, like, and I think it's definitely more ace, but like, and I, and I hate to even speculate because I love Shelly. I think she's so great and dynamic.

Speaker 4 And I would love for her to make it all the way to the end. She's such a captivating character.

Speaker 4 That being said, I, I, I thought it was kind of weird right before they recoupled that like she had this conversation with Austin and she was basically like, listen, like, we're friends.

Speaker 4 We're, we're friends, like, friend, the friend vibes.

Speaker 4 And then, like, a couple scenes later, it was like, I don't know, maybe Austin and I should, like, you know, I don't know, maybe there's more there.

Speaker 4 And it just really felt like something, a conversation or something happened between her and Ace that we didn't get to see.

Speaker 4 And she was like, all right, well, I'm going to, I'm going to circle back on Austin. It's like she knew that Ace wasn't going to pick her.
And it just, it makes it clear. Ace is obviously very savvy.

Speaker 4 He's, he's, he's intelligent. He's, he knows what he's doing.
And he just talks like he understands the playbook of the show too much.

Speaker 4 And it makes sense that he's playing the long game and that he's going to couple up with someone else. And then he's going to be like, hey, listen,

Speaker 4 I don't want to be called the player. And I still want to get to know Shelly.
So that's why he's going to have this conversation with her. And he just did it in such an aggressive way.

Speaker 4 It just, I don't know. And like, again, like, love Shelly, but she's playing Austin.
Like, it's just like, stop stop pretending that you're into this guy.

Speaker 4 When, when she says, like, oh, you're so understanding. You're so patient.
Like, said no girl ever who was actually into a guy ever. You know, she's just, it's just, and Austin's growing on me.

Speaker 4 He's sweet. He's a sweetheart.

Speaker 3 Austin's growing on me too, but the ace

Speaker 3 and the, and the kissing challenge, the, the pie challenge, like, I was like. dry heaving because I was like, this is far too much.
Like, I'm just like, it's so, I don't know.

Speaker 3 I just felt like when he licked the pie? He licked the pie and then went into her mouth. And then it was like Austin sitting there and they're like, licking.
It's just, it was like,

Speaker 3 like, he's got a plan.

Speaker 5 But I'm like, the best part of that challenge was Sierra just being like, I just want to get my lips on Shelly.

Speaker 3 Happy Pride, everybody. Happy Pride.

Speaker 5 I was living for that.

Speaker 3 All of the guys were like freaking their shit. It was like,

Speaker 3 yeah, that was good.

Speaker 4 I've never been to college.

Speaker 3 Literally.

Speaker 3 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 5 You have Nick with his phone. Yeah, that was an it.

Speaker 3 Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. And then Jeremiah, after the challenge, acting like a little bitch baby.

Speaker 3 I do have to say, it was really, it was really weird that when Ace pulled Huda to talk about like the whatever, and she was like, she had just finished telling Amaya that she didn't want to pie Amaya, so she pied.

Speaker 3 Ace. And then she's like, honestly, Ace, like, I just wanted to like kiss you.
Like, I was hoping it would land on the lip so that I could kiss you. What?

Speaker 5 Huh?

Speaker 5 Well, she said that she just didn't want to kiss Amaya. She'd rather kiss Ace.
But I'm telling you, there's something

Speaker 3 better. But like, you're coupled up with Jeremiah being like, you're going to look at another girl.
You're going to look, are you kidding? You're going to look at another girl.

Speaker 3 It's like, you're telling Ace you were hoping to like make out with him over what? Ace and Huda.

Speaker 4 That conversation between Jeremiah and Huda when they were, you know, because they're, you know, they're not closed off.

Speaker 4 It's like, I know we're open, but I'm just saying that like if another girl comes and like, I don't want to like talk to her. And he's like, what? What?

Speaker 4 It's just like, either you're open or you're closed, you know? And if you're open, who knows? And if you're closed, then you're fucking closed.

Speaker 4 The semantical argument that it is all, it was just solely based off each other's insecurities and trying to like fuck with each other's heads.

Speaker 3 It was just so he was literally like, we're closed off unless a batter bitch comes in. It was literally, literally.

Speaker 5 There's nothing worse than if somebody's mad at me and I know that they're mad at me and I'm like, just talk to me. And they're like, no.

Speaker 3 No, he acted like such a bitch, baby. When she came over to him and he shook her hand and then gives her two thumbs up, it was like, what?

Speaker 5 Oh my God.

Speaker 3 Or when she was like, how do you usually hold me, Jeremiah, or whatever? And he's like, I'm not going to hold you the same way every time.

Speaker 3 And it's like, bro, you couldn't keep your hands off her this entire time. One of your friends said one thing.
And instead of having a conversation, you're acting completely differently.

Speaker 3 I just don't play with that. I'm like, either say what you need to say and get it out or like.
Let it go. But I'm like to like cause a whole scene being like, I'm going to pout.

Speaker 3 And then I'm just not going to tell you because

Speaker 3 he hates to be told that he's doing great. He hates to be told he's doing great.
Oh my god.

Speaker 5 He does good job. Great.

Speaker 3 Good job. So words of affirmation is not your love language.

Speaker 4 I do understand him a little bit in that moment. Like she's, she's talking down to him a little bit.

Speaker 4 Like it's, it's a little much when it's like everything she does, she's like giving like a grade to or just like.

Speaker 3 I mean, he could have sat there and been like, like, I just need a moment. Like, just give me some time.

Speaker 3 But he was like being weird with like the shaking her hand and the thumbs up and the like didn't want to look at her. And like, and then she pulls him and he's like, nah, bro, like, straight.

Speaker 3 I'm straight. I'm cool.
I'm chilling.

Speaker 4 Everything about their relationship is definitely giving like college, high school relationship where it's really too intense, too fast.

Speaker 4 And they love the idea about each other and they love talking about how great they're going to look to their friends and yada, yada, yada.

Speaker 3 Wait, did y'all catch when?

Speaker 3 They go to the water park and Huda's talking about living together and he's like, oh, you know, yeah, like maybe eventually like we'll start like, and you know, like visiting long distance and maybe like we'll move to the same state, you know, and then maybe like same city and like we'll just like kind of work our way.

Speaker 3 And then she goes back to the girls and she's like, he said he wants to live with me. Huh?

Speaker 4 There is zero chance they end up together. That's going to, that relationship is going to absolutely crash and burn.

Speaker 3 That man is terrified of her now, but I was also wondering that I'm like, because he kind of said the whole like good boy situation was like based after like her acting acting like a mom or like treating him like a child.

Speaker 3 And I'm wondering if he would still feel that way if she hadn't told him about being a mom.

Speaker 3 Yes, because it's like now he's kind of using that against her and using that as like his way out, being like, no, you talk down to me.

Speaker 3 But if she talked to you like that and you didn't know she had a kid, would you have a problem with it? Or would you think it was like pet names?

Speaker 5 It started after she told him that she had a kid.

Speaker 3 Oh, totally. Amaya lost me during that.

Speaker 3 100%. She lost me with the blow up at Shelly.

Speaker 4 I kind of think she's great.

Speaker 3 The argument with Ace, where she's like, she kept, she just kept saying,

Speaker 3 babe. She kept saying the same thing over and over.
Yeah. Yeah.
Wouldn't let him talk.

Speaker 3 Yeah, which nothing pisses me off more than like someone just repeating themselves over and over and over in an argument. It's like, okay, whenever you're done.

Speaker 4 Activated, I'm like, yeah, it was a little messy and it was intense. And she like, you know, she was activated, but I just, I think she's on to something.

Speaker 4 And I think she can tell that Shelly and Ace are like, they're being shit.

Speaker 3 She has every right to be like pissed off with Ace. What he's doing to her is so fucked.
It's so unfair. It's not nice.
It's like, honestly, like, if I'm her, he, that would make me feel really.

Speaker 4 I don't think, I don't think Shelly is completely innocent in this whole charade that they're playing.

Speaker 3 Shelly's playing the Love Island game. Shelly's being like,

Speaker 3 it's eight days in, babe. Like,

Speaker 3 you might be coupled up with Ace, but like, I still like want to get to know him. And like, he wants to get to know me.
He's open. I'm open.

Speaker 4 All I'm saying, if, if they end up together.

Speaker 3 Shelly doesn't like Austin. Yeah.

Speaker 4 If they end up, if Shelly and Ace end up together, I don't know. Something's like, it's, there was something shady going on.
I just, I don't know.

Speaker 4 The way she is pretending to like Austin makes me question.

Speaker 3 She doesn't want to go home.

Speaker 3 So she, they all do that. They all like want to stay in their couple so that they like make sure they have a couple for the next time.

Speaker 4 Lean into your connection with Ace. Like show more of a like, I don't know.
I get, listen, it's definitely way more ace, but, and I.

Speaker 3 It's all ace. Shelly's done nothing wrong but play the game.

Speaker 5 It's time for some new bombshells.

Speaker 3 We definitely, oh my god, I was like, give us the weird.

Speaker 4 They better bomb. And I, I really, I hope

Speaker 4 I don't get why they don't like Charlie. I just don't get it.

Speaker 3 Y'all want to know what's fucked when Huda was like, when Jeremiah got called for Alandria or whatever for whatever they did and they landed on Kiss and he just pecked.

Speaker 3 She's like, you could have made out with her. It's like you just took off Amaya's head when she made out with him at the last challenge.

Speaker 3 But now it's okay for your girl to make him like, what?

Speaker 3 Make up your mind. This girl has me literally like with flash.
Like, where are we?

Speaker 3 And I like the best of the laundry. I probably didn't want to kiss him either.
Yeah,

Speaker 5 the best. She's my favorite.

Speaker 3 I spotted your red flags from day one. I love her.

Speaker 4 She's always like, listen, I don't want to gossip, but.

Speaker 3 Oops, he didn't tell you that.

Speaker 3 Oh, shit. Oh, my bad.

Speaker 4 I don't.

Speaker 3 My bad. Right?

Speaker 3 Both Ace and Austin going to her for advice on Shelly.

Speaker 5 And it's just like, she's like, like, yeah, like, just don't quit trying.

Speaker 3 Just keep, just, just put your all in there. I saw this

Speaker 3 interesting TikTok and they were obviously referring to Huda, but they were like, it's a major red flag when,

Speaker 3 to this person, and I agree with them, that like when women start like really early on in a friendship being like, oh my God, I love you. You're my soul sister.
Like, we're sisters. We're besties.

Speaker 3 And that's kind of how Huda's been acting. Like, whenever she revealed to Sierra that she was was a mom, like third episode or fourth episode, and she's like, you're my sister.
Like,

Speaker 3 I've come to realize, and I get that they're spending a lot of time together, but it's intense.

Speaker 4 It's like it's like a friendship love bombing in a way. It's like, uh, it's like claiming friends and it feels a little transactional.
It's just like, I love you.

Speaker 4 So in case I need something from you, just know that like, I'm your ride or die. Yeah.

Speaker 3 You know, it's a. And you better not vote me out.

Speaker 4 Literally.

Speaker 3 Yeah. No.

Speaker 4 Huda's, she, she, no, she's no dummy. She's playing the game, but she's also just like, she gets a little too activated too early.
She's fun to watch. She's great television.

Speaker 3 I do think all of the men are scared of her. I mean, Nick being like, I just think she.

Speaker 3 Don't tell her that. Please don't tell her I said that.

Speaker 5 That was annoying.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 And he's the cause of it. He's the cause of why Jeremiah is acting different.
He's like, just don't tell her I said that.

Speaker 3 He's like, I don't know why I'm acting different. I'm totally fine, girl.

Speaker 4 I also felt like his criticism didn't make sense. Like, I think there's a lot of holes to poke in Jeremiah and Huda's relationship, but like, she's, I don't think she's pretending to like them.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 4 You know, like, she definitely likes them. And I don't know.
And maybe, maybe, I don't know.

Speaker 3 Maybe you're right, Leia.

Speaker 4 Maybe there's something going on they haven't shown us.

Speaker 4 You know what I'm saying? Like, maybe Huda and Ace, like, there's, maybe they're giving each other looks.

Speaker 4 Like, Ace is, Ace is fucking sneaky, and he, he doesn't want to, like, he doesn't like revealing his cards. Pun intended.

Speaker 5 During the blindfolded.

Speaker 5 challenge in the very beginning remember when they were allowed to like go kiss whoever they wanted to oh yeah ace kissed huda oh yeah i forgot he kissed shelly and huda yeah there has not been a conversation about that

Speaker 3 wait that's so true i forgot about that wow i'm just saying huda huda and ace there's gonna be something ace is definitely into huda yeah and especially after hearing the like the most recent conversation of her being like i just wish i would have kissed you it's that is like That is a weird thing to say when you're like, so you want to be closed off with your man so bad to be like.

Speaker 5 And he also wasn't getting upset with her for touching his arm.

Speaker 4 i can't wait for casa more true they're gonna they're gonna blow that up and casa i cannot

Speaker 3 and then the movie night you know huda's like he's gonna be so scared if jeremiah folds and casa more i hope they pick like remember the kayler

Speaker 3 remember the kayler and aaron of it all where she's just like aaron like the whole time and she's like sobbing crying she's like what the fuck is this like huda's gonna be pissed and the death stare she's gonna send this man i don't think i don't think uh jeremiah though i think he's smart enough if he does like if he breaks i think he'll come clean fast this is the thing about Casa more is that they've all seen the show.

Speaker 5 Yeah. They all know what happens and then they all do it anyway.

Speaker 3 That's very funny.

Speaker 4 I know, but like Jeremiah up until this point has been very self-conscious, whether it's because he doesn't want to hurt Huda's feelings or because he's self-conscious about his brand or how he comes across.

Speaker 4 Like he has been swerving, he's been pecking, he's been, he hasn't even been making out during the games, which everyone gets like a green light to do that shit.

Speaker 4 So he's, he's very self-aware on that end. So

Speaker 4 I have a hard time believing that he's going to come back knowing that movie night exists and lie about it.

Speaker 3 I hope I'm wrong.

Speaker 4 I hope it's messy as fuck.

Speaker 3 I could see Jeremiah coming back with somebody else.

Speaker 4 The best case scenario is that, like, yeah, they pick a baddie for him.

Speaker 4 They go into CASA with their relationship like really rocky. Like, you know, and that's the thing.
So much of a relationship, right about this is about how it starts, right? It's like that meet cute.

Speaker 4 They love how they meet.

Speaker 4 Obviously, this isn't like, you know, Love Island world, but it's like, it's based off of like just absolutely being obsessed with each other, like the first week and talking about, oh my God, our kids would look so cute together and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 4 And it's all about this fantasy that they built when they first met.

Speaker 4 And then everything about those types of relationships is about maintaining the fantasy without like, it just like being normal and getting to know each other so like they'll continue down this path of like just like trying to preserve how they met and then Casa Amore will start and he will already be like questioning how things are he'll like he'll have his buddies get in his head Nick will be like I don't know man she's a little toxic and then they'll bring in this you know this bombshell and yeah I just don't think I don't think Jeremiah is going to like do whatever whatever he does and come back and be like Aaron was last year and just been like yeah nothing happened like I didn't do anything.

Speaker 3 I don't remember.

Speaker 4 I don't really remember. You know, like, I don't think he's going to do that.
I think it'll come clean. And then he'll do the whole like guy thing where he's like, I'm just so confused.

Speaker 4 And I still like you, but I like her too. And it'll be a big mess.
And then Huda will blow up. And then that's where Ace maybe comes in.

Speaker 3 When is Casa Amar? Not for a while. It's not for a while.

Speaker 5 That's what I'm saying. I'm like, Jeremiah and Huda are breaking up before Casa.

Speaker 3 Tomorrow, tonight.

Speaker 3 They're not lasting. What did he, I mean, he was like, bro, I'm done.
Like, she keeps calling me, like, saying I'm doing great. Like, I'm out of this shit is what he was sitting there saying to Nick.

Speaker 3 And I'm like, wait, is he saying their relationship's over? And then he was like,

Speaker 3 I'll do anything for her. And I was like, what?

Speaker 4 No, he was like, he's like, everything's perfect except that I hate her, you know?

Speaker 5 Everything's perfect if she would just stop talking to me.

Speaker 3 Yes. I'm like, let me like enjoy my love island experience.
It's a, it's a good group.

Speaker 4 I mean, I think

Speaker 4 I'm as into this season as I, as I was. Yeah, they're definitely growing on me.
Yeah, they're, it's, it's, it's so fascinating because I think, I don't know, maybe it's like our brains for reality TV.

Speaker 4 We come in with wanting to be such such haters, you know, it's like, oh, you know, you look at the pictures and you're like, oh, this, all that.

Speaker 4 First episode, you're like, I don't know, I don't know these people. I don't give a fuck about them.
You start watching them. You see, and then you realize, oh, I get why they were casted.

Speaker 4 It makes a lot of sense.

Speaker 3 Should we get into the valley?

Speaker 4 Let's get into the valley.

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Speaker 4 All right, Valley, it continues to be just dark and it's so dark, guys.

Speaker 3 It's such a hard watch now.

Speaker 4 Did you guys see the reports that the Toms are interviewing to be in season three of the Valley?

Speaker 3 What do you mean, interviewing? Wait, what?

Speaker 4 Well, I mean, I mean, on the show, so, like, you know, I don't know, they're like meeting with producers, talking storylines, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, about the possibility of it.

Speaker 4 Sounds like, I don't, maybe this was a blog. I don't know.
You never know. Like, we thought Carl left Summerhouse.
Even Andy Cohen sounds like he believed that fake post.

Speaker 3 But who else is interviewing? The Toms. And who else?

Speaker 4 Is there someone else? Did I forget? Who else?

Speaker 3 Sheena? Ariana's brother.

Speaker 4 Oh, yeah. And Ariana's brother, which

Speaker 3 it's giving Bravo, putting up loser men on a pedestal.

Speaker 3 I can't, I can't, well,

Speaker 3 I can't.

Speaker 4 I can't argue against that.

Speaker 4 The Toms, I mean,

Speaker 4 especially Swartz have a bit of a soft spot.

Speaker 4 Put it this way.

Speaker 4 Would it be interesting to you guys if you could see, well, Tom Sandoval is in a relationship. Swartz, he at least says he wants kids.

Speaker 4 I would like to see them to be in seemingly decent relationships and strive for the American family dream.

Speaker 3 Do we feel like we trust Tom Sandoval on another TV show while in a relationship? I just like don't know what that show would be.

Speaker 4 Are Ariana and her brother on good terms? Are they close?

Speaker 3 That I don't know.

Speaker 6 Wasn't there like headlines a long time ago of like she hasn't spoken to him?

Speaker 3 Yeah, I feel like Thothel. That was a while

Speaker 3 because he was still on good terms with Sandoval, I think, after Scan Doval or

Speaker 3 he was hanging out with Jax when Jax was dating that like OnlyFans model during everything. So I'm like, yeah, he's definitely picked the wrong side of history.

Speaker 5 Yeah, they weren't on speaking terms a year ago.

Speaker 4 One of the biggest, I think, misconceptions out there, especially with like public figures, is

Speaker 4 family members, you know?

Speaker 4 So often if there's like a report, like so-and-so's brother or sister or cousin or whatever, you know, might speak on what they know about this public figure, or maybe they're they're quoted in some kind of book.

Speaker 4 And it's just like, I have 10 brothers and sisters and they're very different.

Speaker 4 I mean, I have siblings on the complete opposite end of the political spectrum and everything in between. And some of us are close.

Speaker 3 I mean, we're as a whole, we're a close family.

Speaker 4 But like the individual, like

Speaker 4 I wouldn't want most of my siblings speaking on my behalf. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 3 Like, like if someone wrote like a

Speaker 3 bio pic about your life.

Speaker 4 Like, would you want your sisters? Like, how many of your siblings would you want to be like, yeah, let me tell you everything I know about Natalie?

Speaker 3 Yeah, probably not a lot of them. You know, especially a sibling.

Speaker 4 It's loaded with such like sibling rivalry.

Speaker 3 I feel like they would tell it. I'd be like, that's not fucking how it happened.
Like at all.

Speaker 3 I mean,

Speaker 4 Ariana's got to be so pissed about the possibility. It's such a good concept of Valley.
Like, get aspirational people.

Speaker 3 They need to get, they need to convince Stasi Schroeder and La La. Kent.
They've got to.

Speaker 4 Stasi's team Hulu at this point. She's off the grid.

Speaker 3 I don't care. They need to pay her enough money.
Her and her family need to be on the valley.

Speaker 4 Stasi would be great, but they can, like, they're the this group of vanderpump adjacent people are not the only people who live in the valley.

Speaker 3 They're not the only people you can make a show about.

Speaker 3 I think that's what is

Speaker 3 what we like so much about the valley with Kristen is that we saw her as this like crazy crazy drunk kid. And now she's like becoming a mom.
She's settled down. She's bought a house.

Speaker 3 She's like, and we like that transition. These random friends that like some are fans of the show, some are not.
I don't, I, I don't feel like they're as compelling. They're not at all.

Speaker 4 I don't need Jasmine. Don't need Zach.

Speaker 3 Janet, Michelle.

Speaker 4 I will say Janet at least is

Speaker 4 Janet might be, might give Karen, but I don't think she's like a shit.

Speaker 3 She's the most boring person to watch on reality television.

Speaker 3 Sorry.

Speaker 3 I get that she came on, but no, she is a terrible reality television. Yeah, she does not give anything from herself.

Speaker 3 All of her drama is like spewing shit about other people from forever ago or keeping the same fight going episodes, episodes, episodes in.

Speaker 4 I would fire them all except for Kristen and Luke. I mean, Luke's only crime is wearing those shorts with that suit.

Speaker 3 Do you think that was Kristen?

Speaker 3 I mean, that must be Kristen's fault.

Speaker 4 There's no way Luke picked that out for himself.

Speaker 3 That's just Luke. I think Luke takes out his own clothes.

Speaker 4 There's no way he picked that out.

Speaker 4 There's no way he picked that up. Like that pink linen suit pant.

Speaker 3 Short. Short.
It was stylish.

Speaker 3 He was taking a fashion, fashion, fashion. It was brave.
The man takes risks.

Speaker 5 Blends in with his skin. And then

Speaker 5 when it cut to the wide, it was a jump scare. I was like, is he naked?

Speaker 3 The shorts was definitely a jump scare. But no, I think we need Lala's.
I said this, yeah, last reality recap. We need Lala's dynamic, right?

Speaker 3 We need like this powerful woman with her children, no fucking man, like maybe she's dating, whatever, but like the pod with her mom and her brother, like raising her family, her doing her pod, like she's a powerhouse.

Speaker 3 We need Lala. I think Stasi with her two kids and her husband.
Stasi's not coming back.

Speaker 4 Lala and Kirk.

Speaker 3 We're not actually casting them. This is all imaginary.

Speaker 3 What is your problem? Now that we have a perfect world.

Speaker 3 This is her fantasy football.

Speaker 3 Literally, like, sorry, Aaron Rodgers is never gonna play for you in real life.

Speaker 3 Stasi Schroeder. Stasi Schroeder with her family on the valley.

Speaker 3 Anyone else in the dream team that involves Stasi? So we have Stasi, Lala, Kristen.

Speaker 4 Would it be not funny to have...

Speaker 4 I'd be interested in watching the Toms date on the Valley.

Speaker 3 I'd be fine never.

Speaker 4 They're not as dark. I mean, compared to Jesse and Jax,

Speaker 4 the Toms make them look like sweet souls.

Speaker 3 I think we can do Schwartz without Sandoval.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 I agree with that. I'm like, the only thing even with Schwartz though, too, is that I've, and I love Schwartzy, but I feel like he's still so like, I'm trying to figure it out.

Speaker 3 Like, the contrast between like these like marriages falling apart, like you have to get rid of all of that to incorporate someone like Schwartzy because it's just going to go from like fighting, fighting to like,

Speaker 3 here's my plants. Like, you know, it's just two very different vibes.

Speaker 4 No, I don't, I don't want the darkness of this show.

Speaker 4 You know, I don't know about Heidi and Spencer.

Speaker 5 I don't know if they mesh with the show.

Speaker 3 I feel like they're their own.

Speaker 3 Heidi and Spencer are Heidi and Spencer. They're not part of an ensemble anymore.
Like, they're their own

Speaker 3 show.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Well, they're my dream.
They should have their own show. I would want them.
Justin said it.

Speaker 3 Okay, so

Speaker 5 Nick's dream team is Heidi and Spencer, Tom Sandoval.

Speaker 3 No, no, no. No one's told me.
Victoria Robinson.

Speaker 3 Tom Sandoval's on my mind.

Speaker 5 Who else is on your dream team, Nick?

Speaker 3 Sorry, they're not renewing it. Your season.

Speaker 3 No, I want more of this. So far, I don't know if I'm watching.
Ratings are low for Nick's season of the Valley.

Speaker 3 I think it performed. No one's watching.

Speaker 5 Whose season performs better, Nick's dream team or Natalie's dream team?

Speaker 4 Wait, when did they become my dream team?

Speaker 3 You just said they were.

Speaker 3 No, I said they're being interviewed.

Speaker 3 But you got mad at me when I said Stasi and you were like, no, never. That won't happen.
It's like, that's my dream team. I was like, pretty sure she's on Hulu.

Speaker 3 She's fucking busy.

Speaker 6 She has her own show, though.

Speaker 3 He's right. I do also feel like, though, they're really, they can't really put anyone else.
Like, whoever else is on this show has to come from reality TV, right?

Speaker 3 Like, there can't be like a Julianne Huff on, you know, like we can't have. Why not? Because she's not going to like mix dream team Julianne Huff and mingle.
Literally.

Speaker 4 I'm not saying Julianne Huff, but like what I'm saying is I want people who like

Speaker 4 who are aspirational, that have cool lives, that like have good qualities to them and sure every once in a while they show some vulnerability they bring some mess in their life onto the show who i don't know who's at the top of your head

Speaker 3 besides

Speaker 3 because i don't see how he's aspirational in any sort of way

Speaker 3 his cameos are charming i've never seen a cameo from

Speaker 5 my life he put so much work into them he does put a lot of he does put a lot it's like a birthday tribute he plays music in the background it's it's he's mixing a drink sets up a whole bar uh have you bought one he's always doing the most

Speaker 3 i saw him floating around nick just has a bunch of tom sample kicks he's like hey nick me again

Speaker 3 you're not letting me know what to get in my father's day

Speaker 3 you know yeah

Speaker 3 come back so you have no one that like you can think of off the top of your head off the top of my head or julianne huff actually wouldn't be bad i mean she'd never do it but um

Speaker 3 pretty good

Speaker 3 like i feel like we're back to square one no i mean like how did we start yeah with me

Speaker 3 now he's like Julianne Huff would never do it, but yeah, I'd have her on. Like Stasi Shorter would never do it, but yeah, I'd have her on.

Speaker 4 No, Stasi can't.

Speaker 5 I do think the beauty of the Valley is that it's, it's a group of friends who are in the van der Pump like sphere of universe so it's like friends of friends of friends of friends so they kind of have to stick to that like explaining

Speaker 4 to the valley no what I'm saying like you have to stay true to the valley like the show itself that is the like log line Jasmine's been someone who's just been like floating around LA for the past decade like trying to be friends with other reality TV stars and found her way on the show like is it that compelling and all she's done is like point fingers at people like what do we do we even

Speaker 4 What does she even do for work?

Speaker 3 Genuinely don't know, but can we talk about that moment, though, when they sit down for dinner for the confrontation and how fake she was?

Speaker 3 Now she's been sitting here running her mouth to everyone about like how dark side danny, dark side Danny. Like, she's a terrible round side Danny about Janet and whatnot.

Speaker 3 And then it was just like instantly like, I never said that. I forgive you.
Like, we're good.

Speaker 3 And it was just like, girl, you wasted my last three episodes on this storyline for this to be the confrontation. Like, the the

Speaker 3 the beach fight was crazy and for that to be the last time you speak and then now this it's like yeah where was the i thought i missed something i was like what happened what she was you're not a karen i was like you screamed it in her face and then jana's like yeah i guess i probably am i looked it up and i probably am a little bit of a karen it's like what is happening

Speaker 3 This was clearly this whole thing up. It was clearly a scene.

Speaker 3 They're clearly just good friends who are like, guys, Jasmine's like, listen, Janan, I'm going to throw a couple like, you're you're a Karen you have bad vibes and you're gonna get like offended and then we're gonna make up next episode is that cool and they're like yeah great cool see you at the beach like that's how that happened kind of smart I said when they both sat down to that dinner I go there's two bad actors one is already acting one hasn't gotten started yet and I don't know if you saw Janet's face when she sat down but she was just

Speaker 3 like this like shy timid like I'm so sad I'm so sad and then it was just like for that to be the confrontation I was like you guys are fake Janet

Speaker 4 bringing up this dark Danny again. I mean, maybe, maybe Danny was hammered, but I've never seen a more sober, on-camera, calm person.

Speaker 3 Jason's like, you're acting weird, dude. You're acting weird.
Go for a walk. Nick was like, he's literally sitting there.

Speaker 4 He's just sitting there with his legs crossed.

Speaker 5 He's literally sitting there. And it's like all of them like are yelling.
All of them yell at each other. All of them get into drama.
All of them do this.

Speaker 5 And it's like, just because Danny had a couple of drinks, he's only doing this because he's drunk. It's like, why can't he just stand up for himself?

Speaker 4 also jason what a bitch the way he's afraid to help them decorate the bar because it's gonna upset his abusive toxic friend uh who's coming out of rehab like excuse me like are these guys honestly just what does jax have over them does he have like i mean that would be very believable that jax blackmailed all his friends truly uh that's what it's giving like what these the fact that any of these guys have the nerve to stand up or they're also want to be his friend at this point is fucking crazy.

Speaker 3 They're also acting like they ripped down all of Jax's like name like they put a piece of paper over his signage Jesse's like I can't believe this this is happening like he's getting out tomorrow.

Speaker 3 He's gonna hear about this.

Speaker 5 It's like just rip down the sheet of paper Yeah, Jesse trying to make me feel bad for Jax. I'm like we never yeah literally we should do way worse.

Speaker 3 Fred, I have to pick my friend up from rehab tomorrow and we're just, we're just aiding in his regression. And it's just like, okay, don't post the photo.

Speaker 3 Regression?

Speaker 3 The man's been, he's been like harassing Brittany the entire season. What regression? What are you wearing?

Speaker 3 Question. When she said that he came by to pick up the mail, what rehab facility is allowing somebody to go stop by their house to pick up the mail? Like, how do you know he's not using it?

Speaker 3 He's not there. He's at a friend's house.

Speaker 3 He's every time we see him, he's sitting in front of someone's wall. It's just like literally Jason being like, no.

Speaker 3 And I walked in and I talked to the professionals there and I said, this is what you're dealing with. It's like, honestly, I feel like Jax hired some people.

Speaker 3 And that's where you went to like Jax's facility. She's in someone's bare bed.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 It was crazy to hear them. They're like packing up all of his stuff and Brittany's like getting emotional and she's like, I just love him.
You know, you can't get over him overnight.

Speaker 3 It's like overnight. It's been 10 years of this.
What do you mean, overnight? Move on.

Speaker 4 I mean, I honestly, I couldn't with her whole like her ordering McDonald's Taco Bell. And this girl needs to get her life together.

Speaker 4 I mean, if that's not just parallel to everything about her life, I think that was a trend.

Speaker 3 Yeah, well, it was like a trend. It's a disgusting trend.
Okay. Well,

Speaker 3 I was like,

Speaker 3 I ordered Taco Bell.

Speaker 5 I saw it and I was like, actually down

Speaker 3 I'll take a McDonald's tower Michelle walking in though being like is there anything for me

Speaker 3 air and water my love

Speaker 4 this show really does hate women justin you you sent uh and like a some kind of article talking about the the showrunner jeremiah and how he also showrunners uh southern charm and the he did the van der Pump like season 10 and 11.

Speaker 4 And well.

Speaker 6 Dolly Vanderpump and Southern Charm.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 5 oh so he hates women well and there's there's just

Speaker 6 a meme people don't know well people don't know too much about this producer he just he's associated with a lot of the seasons that were also like quote-unquote the worst received ones by audience members and he was removed from southern charm like halfway through I know Jeremy and he was an executive producer so it's but I know of him oh and he think his name dropped also in Vanderpump rules yeah but yeah so there's an interesting like people are noticing a pattern whether it's him or if it's just reality who knows but it's just the way for example like this episode they did Michelle so dirty, right?

Speaker 4 Like, I was shocked by the, even the women's, our, our audience response, which is a lot of women, like the way they are not rallying behind Michelle.

Speaker 4 Like, I just, again, look at Jesse, the type of person he is, what he put Michelle through. And like, you know, maybe Michelle is not your favorite character.

Speaker 4 Maybe you find her slightly obnoxious, but like, how can you not have empathy for someone like Michelle, given everything that Jesse has done, which is very similar to a lot of things that Jax has done in terms of just like, just emotionally torturing her, spending her money, spending all this money to try to look rich rather than like build a life together.

Speaker 3 It's crazy. What I do think, though, is crazy is that Lala was the only person to ask Michelle about her mom.
Like she's been with these people. She calls these other people like her best friend.

Speaker 3 She's been with with them so much more than she's been with Lala, like as we've seen. We haven't seen not one of these people ask Michelle about her mom.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 And I think like, again, the show did her so dirty because her comments, I guarantee you, people are going to be, it was edited in a way that was very much like, here's Brittany's moment.

Speaker 4 It was edited to like give Sheena in a way. It's like it was the kind of like, what about me type of thing?

Speaker 4 But like, this is an in the moment interview that Michelle probably did, I don't know, weeks after they wrapped filming, right?

Speaker 4 Like they're doing pickups, they're talking about, you know, she probably came in for like a four-hour session to go through like moments of the season and just kind of talk about, well, how do you feel about like just the support, you know, that do you think the rest of the group supports you when it comes to Jesse, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 4 She answers these questions and then they decided to embed it into this episode in this moment that makes her, that makes her like look like Asheena.

Speaker 4 And it's just like, it's, they're doing her so dirty. And I just don't don't get why.
I just like, why don't they have like the show?

Speaker 4 Why doesn't the show have empathy for these women, specifically Michelle? Because again, like Brittany, I'm just so over. I'm just so over.

Speaker 4 They're moving her out and she's still being like, I just love him. I just, I don't know his jean jacket.
Oh my God, the jean jacket. Ah, like, I don't care.

Speaker 4 Like, we, we got to see a season of Michelle and Jesse. We got to see how shitty he was.
And Michelle finally was like, enough is enough. I don't want to be with this person.

Speaker 4 I need to be free of this person. Michelle is an example of standing up for yourself, leaving a toxic situation and showing that there's light at the end of the tunnel.

Speaker 4 And they are highlighting Brittany, who is someone who is an example of continuing to like delusionally believe and someone who's never going to change.

Speaker 4 And for all the people out there watching the show who need a little inspiration, to like leave a bad situation, they are making the one person who's doing that, Michelle, look like a Sheena.

Speaker 5 Well, it's looking also like where, where at the end of Vanderpump, you had Lala saying like, well, I, you know, nobody, I didn't get this treatment when I went through a, a divorce on the show or when I got cheated on.

Speaker 5 And then Ariana gets like the God treatment, you know, where she can't, doesn't have to film with Sandoval and she can like, you know.

Speaker 3 It's that to me, for me, where I'm like, I feel like everyone's ignoring or not acknowledging the fact that like Jax is in a facility right now.

Speaker 3 So yes, we're there as support for Britney, but I'm like, Michelle's being forced to spend time, hang out in an intimate group with a man who's actively trying to make her life miserable.

Speaker 5 Yeah, it'll be very interesting to see what they do now that Jax is leaving rehab, like how the friend group is going to navigate.

Speaker 5 Like, are they going to invite Jax to all the functions or is it just going to be Britney?

Speaker 5 Like, because right now, they're inviting Michelle and Jesse to everything, and they're not taking into consideration how Michelle might feel about that.

Speaker 5 And they're like continuing to be friends with Jesse, even even when he's been emotionally abusive to Santa Barbara.

Speaker 3 Happen, she literally threw a drink in the man's face. He's calling her a hooker, and then here we are for like a Jax is fuck Jax party, and we invited Jesse.
Like, why? Right.

Speaker 5 So, it'll be interesting to see like if they invite Jax to things or if they're going to be like, no, we are on Team Brittany, Jax is not allowed.

Speaker 5 And then, yeah, I mean, that would be a slap in the face to Michelle.

Speaker 4 Oh, congratulations to Danny and Nia for four under four.

Speaker 3 They have have

Speaker 4 the birth of their child recently. So congratulations to them.

Speaker 3 It's just the fact that

Speaker 4 this show is putting so much energy in trying to make them look bad. It just kind of shows what this show is about.
This is like,

Speaker 4 it could be so much better.

Speaker 3 It really could be so much better if they just like stopped. editing it in this fucking way.
And Janet found her own storyline. We got an insight into her relationship.

Speaker 3 Maybe she showed us some cracks in her marriage or some stuff her and Jason Jason work on or life at home with Jason. I mean, like every scene she has, it's about a fight with someone else.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Jasmine's the same one.

Speaker 3 Exactly.

Speaker 5 You know what's interesting about this friend group is that I don't see the benefit of it. Like I don't see them having fun.
I don't see them like actually enjoying each other.

Speaker 5 I don't see any of them actually being there for each other emotionally.

Speaker 5 All I see are like them being petty, talking behind each other's backs, being mean to each other. Like with every other cast, it's like you have the drama, but you also see the love.

Speaker 5 I don't see the love with this cast.

Speaker 6 Yeah, yeah, they're just all mediators of the trauma that's happening.

Speaker 4 I don't see how Ariana's brother is going to help.

Speaker 5 No.

Speaker 3 Well, he'll bring the weed.

Speaker 5 Julianne Huff, though.

Speaker 3 Please.

Speaker 4 How do we feel about Rachel Zoe joining the cast of Beverly Hills Housewives?

Speaker 3 I feel like that's it. I think it's giving Rebecca Minkoff.

Speaker 6 You do. She was rumored for Rachel Zoe was rumored for a while now.

Speaker 3 Well, and also Rachel had a long-standing show that likes to

Speaker 3 project Gorski. And like, yeah, yeah, so I'm like, she's already reality TV.

Speaker 4 How did you say Brad's name?

Speaker 3 Brad Gorski. Yeah.

Speaker 3 How do you say it? Goresky?

Speaker 3 Anyways, he literally was,

Speaker 3 her show is what like put him into the canon. Thank you.
So I'm like, I feel like it's actually like a really good move because Rebecca Minkoff has never had a personality where I'm like, Rachel is

Speaker 4 like for a long time. It was a huge, it was a huge show back then.

Speaker 3 Does she have like rapport with any of these women?

Speaker 6 I'm assuming she does.

Speaker 3 I would feel like she would have more rapport with an Erica or like a Lisa Renna, like somebody who's not actually on the show right now, but I feel like she's in that circle.

Speaker 5 Did Bose have a rapport, though, with anyone? Because she kind of came in without any ties, and she was great.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Yeah, I'm with Sierra.
I think she has already shown the ability to be a compelling reality TV star where Rebecca kind of showed up as a fashion

Speaker 4 icon who was like, oh, looking to up her brand.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 4 This house, you know, this, oh, this, I get to be on TV, this housewife thing sounds fun. And then showed up and was like, whoa, I did not sign up for this.
Like, holy shit.

Speaker 3 Like, I. Is Rachel Zoe a member of Scientology? No.

Speaker 3 God. Please making sure we're not getting that storyline again.

Speaker 3 No storyline?

Speaker 6 I did see a meme of like the millennials know Rachel Zoe and then the Gen Z like know of Rachel Zoe. Yeah.

Speaker 6 And like that's the difference of like she's going to hit two different demographics, but in different ways.

Speaker 3 I think that's the same thing for next gen. Like a lot of their parents i feel like gin z's not gonna really know besides some of the housewives but like rachel roy like which is crazy because

Speaker 3 she's iconic but i i do feel like a lot of people probably watching are like who

Speaker 3 right or like

Speaker 3 ava's dad yeah literally i know ava Right. And that's, that's the proof in the pudding.

Speaker 6 Did you see Ava Dash was dating Diana Jenkins' son and also Crystal Meinkoff's nanny?

Speaker 3 So sorry. What?

Speaker 6 So she's so she's been in the back of Bravo scenes like multiple seasons.

Speaker 5 How are we feeling now two episodes in?

Speaker 3 Are we starting to feel like not?

Speaker 3 Episode two is better. Nick made a great point last night at when we were having dinner.
We were talking about it. And he said, is Bravo

Speaker 3 too old for this show?

Speaker 3 Has the age demographic of Bravo elevated? to where now this show is like, ugh, you know, like, that's a very interesting call out.

Speaker 5 Maybe it's, it's, it's exactly what they're trying to do, like appeal to a younger demographic and like make Bravo appeal to like Gen Z more.

Speaker 3 Yeah, we'll see.

Speaker 4 They might have to give it some time. I listen, I love the New York vibe.
It's slow so far, and it's, it's definitely giving too self-aware with some of these

Speaker 4 characters. And it's kind of giving potential

Speaker 4 doing scenes. Speaking of potentially doing scenes, did you guys see the trailer for Beyond the Villa? Yes.

Speaker 5 Yes. I'm so glad you brought this up.
Are you talking about Kayla and Liv's fight?

Speaker 3 It looks potentially really rough.

Speaker 4 It looks potentially rough.

Speaker 3 Kayla and Liv's fight, where she's like, you didn't tell me you were getting glam. And she's like, well, you didn't tell me you were getting a spray tan.

Speaker 3 Why the fuck do I have to tell you I'm getting a spray tan? I was like, oh, come on. No, don't give us a title.

Speaker 5 No, listen, I love Kayler. I love Kayler, but...
I'm scared to say that I think she's probably going to be doing too much on this new show.

Speaker 3 Well, I think they're all going to be doing too much.

Speaker 3 No, y'all, we saw genuine kaler we saw genuine like fights and upset and like we saw all of that so now it looks different because she is aware and it and that's i think why it's going to feel like she's doing scenes is because we've seen the aaron we've seen her cry we've seen her sob we've seen her like fight with these women and so now to have her on this like fighting about a spray tan it's like Come on, we know that's not you.

Speaker 3 It's tough.

Speaker 4 It's just because I think that's that's why sometimes these shows have have a hard time landing. And maybe it's just like, you know, maybe it's the trailer.
Maybe it'll end up being epic. Who knows?

Speaker 4 But Love Island, the format, works, right? The show is compelling. You know, that's why they play all these silly games with slime and makeout and the bombshell idea.

Speaker 4 And it's the environment, which is what makes it compelling. Bachelor, for example, like a lot of these people.
aren't stars on their own. It's the show that's the star.

Speaker 4 And yeah, there's some storylines and things like that. It is much harder for an ensemble cast of quote-unquote ordinary people to get together and make a season-long compelling show.

Speaker 4 Like, it's tough to do.

Speaker 3 I mean, I think everyone, I think PPG, everyone's going to love, everyone's going to love Leah, Serena, and Janae.

Speaker 3 I think their dynamic is always just going to be fun and funny, and people love like that aspect of it. I don't see like Aaron or Kindle or even Connor being like that, you know?

Speaker 4 I mean, Aaron didn't say a word in the uh he said he hasn't had sex with anyone since Kayler, which well, no, he didn't

Speaker 3 say it

Speaker 3 if you had sex.

Speaker 4 He goes, like, literally, this showed his sad, sappy face a bunch of times. I don't, it's like, has he lost his voice? Uh, what is going on?

Speaker 5 I saw a funny video where somebody was like, uh, put captions under that and was like lying in a British accent.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I don't, I don't want live and Kaler fake fights. I want Liv and Kayla to go up against the PPG and talk about how they feel left out from the PPG and because that feels real.

Speaker 4 That feels like there's a, you know.

Speaker 3 Hunter Puff Girls was only three, though, I do have to say.

Speaker 4 Either way, I'm just saying that feels like something I can believe, some real jealousy of the way, like, you know, clearly Janae, Serena, and Leah were like the fan favorites.

Speaker 4 They were the real stars. And Kayler definitely, you know, had some star qualities qualities and she really popped at the end.

Speaker 4 But like there was a clear distinction between that group and everyone else.

Speaker 4 And that is something I can believe if they actually lean into that potential storyline, not who's mad at who got a fake tanner. Like,

Speaker 4 what the fuck? And like, do not try to sell me like these fake, you know, if someone's really dating, great. Don't force feed me a fake relationship.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I don't need to see Liv and Connor again. Like, you know, I don't know if that's going to happen, but I've seen it.
That and then did you see that Janae was in the comments?

Speaker 3 Because the trailer dropped, and apparently, how they how they edited the trailer together, it looks like Kenny and her are fighting and that it's apparently like the I don't want to be together, I want to stay apart or something.

Speaker 5 Like saying he didn't want to live together, but like

Speaker 3 apparently that's like a line that's like cut in, but Kenny didn't even say that at that time. But they're trying to like push that like there's trouble between Janae and Kenny when there's not.

Speaker 4 And she's already saying there's not?

Speaker 3 Yeah, she's, she's pissed about it. Like, yeah, she's in the comments being like, that's why I don't don't know if the show is going to work.

Speaker 3 You either have to sell it and go along with it, but like, yeah, where I'm like, they're course correcting as the stuff is coming out. So that's where it's like, oh.

Speaker 4 Because that honestly was the most interesting possible storyline of, oh, okay. Like, and I, I wasn't like I watched that trailer and go, oh, Janae and Kenny, like, they're going to break up.

Speaker 4 It was more like, okay, that's. They're less than a year into their relationship.
Should we move in together? Should we not move in together? Right.

Speaker 3 That's a real, that's a real discussion. I think problems.

Speaker 5 I can see that being, I've I have fought with ex-girlfriends about being like one of us wanted to move in together and you know the other one was like I don't think we're ready but if Janae is gonna go in the comments and being like fake storyline for the trailer it's like I don't know well there's a little bit in there that I'm like interested like you know another real thing that happens in relationships is like the one partners is you know really busy and not making time and like that kind of seems like what's going on with Serena

Speaker 5 you know a little bit and Cordell. But the fact that they put Liv and Kayler's fight about spray tans in the trailer.

Speaker 3 That's the best you got.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 5 That's the best you have.

Speaker 6 Can we talk about Nicole Jackie?

Speaker 5 Oh, yeah, Nicole Jackie shows up.

Speaker 6 I audibly gasped when I saw her on screen.

Speaker 4 Did I miss that? She had to sit down with Kendall.

Speaker 3 Oh, really? Where was I? And they're talking about their like breakup. Yeah.
Oh.

Speaker 3 Period. And she's blinking.

Speaker 6 She has the same energy in the trailer.

Speaker 4 Yeah, but she's like, you guys threw me under the bus.

Speaker 3 What? Is that what she said?

Speaker 3 she was like you really talk shit about me you know she's like it's okay you can say it you talk shit about me and she was like say it with your chest and that was all huh right like that's a that's an interesting i just wonder i wonder what she's up to as someone from sacramento i'm like she's just like bumping and thumping around in the yeah she's been pretty quiet on social media i feel like i mean i also I don't follow her, so maybe I just don't follow her, and she's very

Speaker 3 that probably would be it. That is so me.
I'm like, oh my God, I haven't seen them at all. it's like well yeah i actually don't follow them at all

Speaker 4 i hope it's a good show but it's uh the the trailer wasn't promising especially if janae is already upset with them it's like oh no well i just don't think they're gonna and again i

Speaker 4 get it i say this all the time like i would never do these shows we've been asked to do shows like this i'm not interested we as much as we like to from time to time come on this show and give you like an anecdotal, like, oh, drama on our flight.

Speaker 4 Like, we, we like our privacy. We want to pick and choose.
We don't want our life to be storylined. And we don't, you know, we, we don't want that type of attention or fame.
And so

Speaker 4 we don't do it. And it, this cast feels like what they want is to keep the fame going, you know, like they had a whole year.
of being Love Island superstars, right?

Speaker 4 And now, like, you know, like the bachelor before them, when their new season comes out, it's like a very weird feeling, right?

Speaker 4 Because up until this point, they, they get all the opportunities, they get all the calls.

Speaker 4 And now, depending on how well this season goes, it's, you know, they're, they potentially could be forgotten. And so obviously they get this opportunity.

Speaker 4 They're going to say yes to it, but I'm not sure they're willing to do what it takes to make that show successful.

Speaker 3 Guess we'll see.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I did like that they sent the baby to Leah and Miguel because that's like something that they do on Love Island UK, where they'll like send them all a baby that's like crying and needing things.

Speaker 5 And like you watch the couples have to take care of a baby.

Speaker 3 And I kind of hope that they like did that with, like, I hope that that's what that was. That's funny.

Speaker 5 You know what I'm talking about. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 I think Sierra's afraid to say anything negative about this cast.

Speaker 3 Why would I be afraid? I actually love them.

Speaker 6 I think it's going to perform, to be fair.

Speaker 3 I don't think people. Yeah, I was like, I have nothing to be afraid of.
I'm like, I'm Team Leah. I'm Team Janae.
I'm Team Sabrina, Cordell. Name them all.
PPG. I watch it.

Speaker 3 I'm going to watch it regardless. I just want to do it.
I hope it's good.

Speaker 4 And I agree with Justin. I think people will give him a shot.

Speaker 4 If it's not good, people aren't going to stick around.

Speaker 5 Yeah. I just hope that the best drama isn't about spray tans.
That's all.

Speaker 3 I just like, hope that it's not like a, like a mom talk in reverse because like watching them on their socials, I enjoy it so much.

Speaker 3 So I'm like, I hope that it's something that transfers over like mom talk did. But I'm like, it could also be something where they're better off doing daily vlogs instead of doing a

Speaker 4 perfect example of like, that's what makes the Mormon wives so special and so talented is because of their willingness and vulnerability and bravery to continue to show their real lives and their real drama and the things that they really care about what's pissing them off and so many influencers who are especially online who have a brand to consider and things like that come off shows like a love island and focus on their brand and then they're and again no criticism i i totally get it which is why i'm like i don't want to do that shit.

Speaker 4 You know?

Speaker 3 Speaking of Mormon wives, did y'all see

Speaker 3 Michaela's comment under Whitney's video? Whitney posted like when she makes another video about me,

Speaker 3 like shading Michaela. And Michaela comments, you should have done this in the hospital.
It's laid.

Speaker 5 Nick, do you need to pick me up?

Speaker 3 Michaela's so messy. I love it.
I love her. I have a question.

Speaker 3 Shoot. I guess maybe question for Natalie or Nick.
I don't know.

Speaker 3 But if you're significant, if it's your eight-year anniversary and you happen to be on a trip and you finally get a hold of each other, wouldn't you want the first thing that your partner says is happy anniversary?

Speaker 3 I love you. I love you.

Speaker 3 What are we talking about? Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 3 Charles Oakley picking up the phone and is just like, what, bitch?

Speaker 3 That's crazy.

Speaker 3 I'd be like, we've been together for eight years.

Speaker 3 That was the craziest thing I saw.

Speaker 4 Should we talk about Brittany just trying to sue bravo the money grab

Speaker 3 that whole mess serious i've been saying that sierra you have a visceral reaction give it to me it's just crazy like i'm just like one second we're like defending her because of this and and she's sitting here playing victim being like these photos and and the fact that she's trying to humiliate me and then smash cut to the end of the season and now you're suing saying that those weren't even you in the in the photos Like that doesn't even make any sense.

Speaker 3 You literally had us take your side against Kenya and we're like, yeah, that was fucked up that Kenya did that. And now you're claiming that you're not even in the photos.

Speaker 6 Well, and to clarify too, what she's claiming is that she wasn't able to see the photos. So Bravo was withholding information of like what they actually were.

Speaker 6 So she didn't know until like Bravo was a shirt or anyone.

Speaker 3 No,

Speaker 3 no, no, no. But wasn't all those women at that event, weren't they? Be like, oh, that's not Brit.
I don't know who that is, but that's not Brit.

Speaker 3 And then be like, girl, you have nothing to worry about. That wasn't you on the posters.

Speaker 6 Well, that's what's lost in translation because we know a lot of the cast members won't say like it is revenge porn and illegally it's not considered revenge porn.

Speaker 6 So it's a whole like convoluted situation.

Speaker 4 Yeah, but this is uh just and I talked about this yesterday. This is not like justice for Kenya.

Speaker 4 Like whether she's just like a sloppy at revenge and got the photos wrong, if her intent was still to bring up old photos of pornographic photos of Brit and she just like found the wrong images.

Speaker 3 Also like, who is this girl that's in these pictures now?

Speaker 4 Like, should we like justice for a random person in a porno?

Speaker 3 And then we no, but then we see her at the end of the episode being like, well, I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 Like, and I'm not trying to slut shame, but like, I will say that it's like, she's like, I made some mistakes when I was younger. And like, these things are being thrown in my face.

Speaker 3 Now you're saying it might not be you, but you're suing for defamation. But then at the end of the episode, you're whipping out your tits.
Like, it's like your job.

Speaker 3 So it's just kind of like in a group of women that are crying about like her daughter, her sick baby. Like, it's just the whole, her whole vibe just throws me off.
I am not a Brit Edie fan.

Speaker 3 I'm glad that she's gone or that she will not be coming back.

Speaker 6 Cause Well, and her lawsuit specifically says defendants contributed to a hostile work environment for Edie and sexually harassed plaintiff by subjecting Edie to unwelcome, offensive, and sexualized behavior and comments based on her gender by requiring her to continue working in an environment in which she had been subject to gendered attack.

Speaker 3 It's a

Speaker 3 lot of fun. It's by definition.

Speaker 4 It's just like, you know,

Speaker 3 the housewives. Yeah.
What's crazy is Brittie files a $20 million lawsuit against Bravo. She won't be back next season.
That's for sure. And

Speaker 3 I feel like, honestly, she will probably win this. Oh, definitely not.
You don't think so? You don't think a judge would be like...

Speaker 4 No, I mean, there's like precedent about this.

Speaker 4 You know, it's just like, I think someone famously sued the Friends Writers or whatever, you know, because for like some things they said, I think it might even have been to the Supreme Court, but it was basically like saying like, you know, in this, this, this is not like a normal work

Speaker 4 space, you know, like this is not like showing up to an office space, you know, that specializes in selling insurance and you walk into a room where they're talking about sex and drugs and and and and making crude jokes like and but a hostile work environment is isn't her only claim yeah but she also can't say hostile work environment she's the one talking about pistol whipping people and like whatnot she's also she's also asking the network to remove the episode from all platforms so it's like the episode that does all her image exactly like it doesn't make sense it reeks of money grab i don't think i mean I don't know if any of these, all these people suing Bravo.

Speaker 4 It just reeks of money grab.

Speaker 3 Isn't her husband going through some sort of legal stuff?

Speaker 6 Well, yes, her husband also didn't pay back the country club for the episode we saw. So it's like, there's a lot going on.

Speaker 3 Her husband's getting sued by the country club that they filmed that weird pop-up party at.

Speaker 3 I also think

Speaker 3 why is he getting sued?

Speaker 6 For failure to pay.

Speaker 3 He didn't pay for renting out the country club for her event. So the country club sued him.
And now all of a sudden, conveniently, she's suing bravo i think these are

Speaker 4 i think many of these cast members who are suing bravo are messy sloppy reality tv stars who aren't

Speaker 4 don't even like think about the process in which they're going and i think bravo has it well documented uh in many of these cases these reality tv stars actively pursuing like a next season, trying to get back on, trying to be, you know, to to continue working for the very environment they claim is hostile.

Speaker 4 And then, when they aren't casted,

Speaker 4 then they try to sue.

Speaker 4 And I think when it goes to litigation in court, like, I think I'm guessing Bravo would probably bring these, these, this information, be like, well, it's funny that they are suing us and saying this was a such and such environment because here are all these emails and correspondence between Bravo and their teams about how they wanted to be on next season.

Speaker 4 And it only changed once we decided to go in a different direction. you know.
But, like, these are just

Speaker 3 these are sloppy people. Also, her like failed event or whatever when she like had the dinner and like it was only for her table, not for everyone.
So, then she blamed her decorator.

Speaker 3 That decorator's come out, like, speaking out against her.

Speaker 3 I'm like, she's just notorious for like not taking any accountability or responsibility for anything that she does or anything that goes wrong.

Speaker 3 She blames everybody else for the way that she's being portrayed. Where I'm like, this is what you've done, my girl.
We have Bachelor in Bachelor in Paradise Cast Reveal, and we have Dale Moss.

Speaker 3 Oh, Justin Glaze. Isn't that Claire Crawley? Justin's back.
I actually think I heard that Dale was going to be on it. Jonathan, I guess we knew he was going to go.

Speaker 3 Cat's back.

Speaker 3 I don't know who a lot of these people are, honestly. Because you didn't watch their season or because they're

Speaker 3 Sam McKinney, the

Speaker 3 villain of Gen season. Oh, yeah.
Wasn't that Jen season?

Speaker 3 Who is really weird?

Speaker 4 Yeah, the one who wanted to push her off the ledge.

Speaker 3 You know who they didn't post? Any of the Goldens?

Speaker 5 Wait, no, I see. I see

Speaker 3 some Goldens. I have got listening to you.

Speaker 4 It's going to be your obvious people.

Speaker 3 Yeah, Gary.

Speaker 5 Leslie.

Speaker 3 Gary's there.

Speaker 5 Gary.

Speaker 4 It's going to be all the people they've

Speaker 4 been working with over the past two years.

Speaker 5 Zoe will be there. We knew that, though, right? Hakeem is going to be there.

Speaker 3 I mean, I'm really only shocked by Justin Glaze and Dale Moss.

Speaker 5 Jill is going back.

Speaker 3 All of the rest of them kind of make sense because they were on previous most recent seasons.

Speaker 5 I forgot about Jess. Carissa kind of went home.
Alex. Alex is going.

Speaker 3 But look at what are these photos of them?

Speaker 5 Bailey is going. Selfie Queen.

Speaker 6 Oh, Alexi's there. Cat.

Speaker 4 Cat Justin. I mean, there's Andrew Spencer.

Speaker 5 Oh, Andrew is going back.

Speaker 3 Andrew Spencer is going back? Yeah.

Speaker 3 I don't have the right link it's only showing me like jeremy simon

Speaker 5 spencer's photo is hot spencer simon spencer conley oh sorry spencer conley all the men have shirts and then you get to spencer brian okay april kirkwood is going i don't know from golden

Speaker 3 kathy

Speaker 3 in the studio i don't care about the golden natasha

Speaker 3 zoe okay zoe akeem Andrew and Justin going back is,

Speaker 3 I'm gonna say it, is a downgrade for them. Like, come on, guys.
How are they doing? But come on. It's just like you've, you're so far removed.

Speaker 3 You've made yourself like you, you're, you are who you are. And now going back is giving just like they weren't, they're not, they're not booked and busy, though.

Speaker 5 I don't know. I kind of like when they bring people back from like seasons.

Speaker 4 I mean, I'd rather see Andrew than this Brian oots oughts guy. No idea who that guy is.

Speaker 4 Do not care either.

Speaker 3 I mean, I love, I love watching Andrew and Justin Justin tell like like they're funny. They're good.
You know, they're good guys. So I guess I just think like

Speaker 3 career-wise, maybe that like wasn't the best choice, but like it brings

Speaker 5 OG feel.

Speaker 3 It'll definitely make it funny. That's for sure.

Speaker 4 If they give him, is this the entire cat?

Speaker 3 Oh my God. And then just watch Justin glaze in the corner staring at like a golden hitting on like a young girl and he's just going to have that look on his face.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 Him and Hakeem. They literally put the two guys with the facials.

Speaker 5 We didn't even talk about Hakeem being like on Secret Lives of Mormon Wives.

Speaker 3 Well, like, I didn't notice him. He was just in the background.
I did.

Speaker 5 I noticed him immediately.

Speaker 3 I think that's pretty much him.

Speaker 6 I also texted Leia ahead of time.

Speaker 3 Who's he friends with? I think he's pretty good friends with Bretton to me.

Speaker 4 Is this a limited cast? Is this like, obviously?

Speaker 3 It's the first cast. Obviously, they're not going to release everyone.
I mean, it's 23 people.

Speaker 4 It's lacking star quality.

Speaker 3 That's for sure. Dale Moss is crazy.

Speaker 5 But

Speaker 5 they're also going to bring people in like week over.

Speaker 3 Sure, but like if this is

Speaker 4 good bombshells, this is their best.

Speaker 4 This is their best. You lead with your stars.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 5 Do you? Because I feel like sometimes the bombshell is where it's at, not to say.

Speaker 4 Maybe the first person you bring in. But again,

Speaker 4 you want to have the majority be stars. And then maybe you have a couple like OG Bachelor in Paradise that

Speaker 4 would have their biggest stars.

Speaker 4 And then maybe in the original cast, they would have like one night, one early exit person that they thought like had potential that maybe was kind of an interesting thing.

Speaker 3 Like, there's a do you think that Justin and Andrew were like, we're only gonna go if one of our boys goes?

Speaker 3 Like, you think they're like, Justin's only going if Andrew goes, or I'm only going if Greg goes.

Speaker 4 I think they were, I think, casting was desperate for people, and they got asked.

Speaker 3 I think they paid him a lot of money.

Speaker 5 Greg would have been a big one.

Speaker 3 I think I'm good on that.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 I feel like there's not a lot of

Speaker 3 younger,

Speaker 3 like female contestants. I don't know.
I guess I just have to watch it and wait and see.

Speaker 3 I just feel like the goldens are throwing me off because then it's like in my mind, I'm pairing them up with each other. And then I'm pairing off the three people that I recognize.
Like, I don't know.

Speaker 3 Well, we just have to see because it's given hot mess.

Speaker 4 Well, thank you guys for listening. Thank you to our guest Beldasha.
Be sure to check out the Going Deeper episode with Sherry Papini. We have a great week lined up next week as well.

Speaker 4 Until then, enjoy your weekend.