E948 - Love Island USA w/ GirlBossTown, Jim Jefferies, Summer House, Not So Golden Bachelor, and The Valley

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Speaker 3 What's going on, everybody? Welcome back to another episode of the Vile Files Reality Recap Edition. I am your host, Nick, and boy, do we have a lot to get into today.
We have a great episode for you.

Speaker 3 The very hilarious Jim Jeffries Jeffries joins us later this episode, along with his wife, Taisie.

Speaker 3 Can't wait for you to hear from them. I do also have a

Speaker 3 story in a way. Also, we have Girl Boulestown joining us momentarily, also known as Robin Delmonte, your internet big sister.
I don't know. She's like trendsetter.

Speaker 3 She returns the vile files. We love it when Robin's on.
She always has a lot of great insight and all things pop culture.

Speaker 3 And she will be joining us to break down some Love Island, which is hitting up quick thoughts are we enjoying it so far uh relative to last season i'm enjoying it not as much as i was season six but like you know it's hard not to follow i struggle with some of the the the characters

Speaker 3 i i i think we forget just how how many episodes there are and like how we felt about season six when it first started like we didn't think about leah and rob the same way we did

Speaker 3 with originally i'm just saying there's yeah that's what i'm saying it's so much struggled for a while

Speaker 3 yeah wow that's crazy i think if you're going in wanting to feel exactly about these characters, you know, in the beginning as you did at the end, like, that's, that's apples and oranges.

Speaker 3 I don't know. I think it's promising.
I think it's promising.

Speaker 6 I'm a Love Island virgin. This is my first season.

Speaker 3 And I'm enjoying.

Speaker 6 Like, I thought I would.

Speaker 3 It's fun and silly.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 6 I thought I would be really annoyed at the everyday aspect of it, but now I'm finding myself being like, ooh, it's out. And then like turning it on.
It's really, I'm enjoying. I'm locked in.

Speaker 5 Well, not only is Nick the host of the Vile Fouls, he's also the host of Secret Lives of Mormon Wives Reunion.

Speaker 1 She's a day.

Speaker 5 Well, obviously, why would you do a reunion for season one?

Speaker 1 We're going to go back in time.

Speaker 3 You need to explain things to people. Anyways, very honored, very excited to be hosting this reunion with these incredible women.

Speaker 3 They make the job easy. They are very giving.
I'm excited for you guys to watch it. It's a wild episode.
The episode is in the bank, so to speak. I can't wait for you guys to see it.
A lot to unpack.

Speaker 3 I know a lot of people have some feelings about Demi not being listed as the group amongst the group of women that attended the reunion.

Speaker 3 I will say that in a way, she is very much a part of the reunion and in a way makes an appearance at the reunion. She's definitely not forgotten.

Speaker 3 And in a way, there.

Speaker 5 But she's also definitely not on the couch.

Speaker 3 No,

Speaker 3 she's not physically on that couch.

Speaker 1 A hologram? Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 Yes, a hologram. Yes, yes.

Speaker 5 An AI version of Demi.

Speaker 6 They had AI come in and have Demi say, I'm the star of this show.

Speaker 3 But if you have questions about Demi's participation in season two, that itch will be scratched very much so.

Speaker 5 July 1st. July 1st.

Speaker 3 July 1st.

Speaker 1 July 1st.

Speaker 3 We will be kicking off your Fourth of July weekend with some major fireworks. I can promise you that.
I'm so excited. It's really good.

Speaker 3 You'll laugh. You'll cry.
You'll be at the edge of your seat.

Speaker 9 Do you know what else airs in July is Bachelor in Paradise? And apparently you guys have some Bachelor Nation tea to spill.

Speaker 3 Well, if many of you guys have known that ABC slash Hulu has not picked up The Bachelor, their flagship show.

Speaker 3 The Warner Brothers, The Bachelor Nation, the entity that is Bachelor Nation, that's owned by Warner Brothers, has obviously been in the news in all the wrong reasons.

Speaker 3 A lot of disarray going on there. They don't know who's going to be running the show.
And Hulu slash ABC is like, they're doing great things. They got Mormon wives crushing it.

Speaker 3 They're producing other shows. They like, they don't need The Bachelor like they used to need The Bachelor.
This is my understanding of what's going on.

Speaker 3 And so now ABC is kind of like, figure it out and let us know.

Speaker 4 Could this be the end of an era?

Speaker 3 No, I think they have every intention of bringing it back. I mean, the next Bachelor season will be the 30th Bachelor season.
That's a big, that's a big deal.

Speaker 3 And I think they have every hope and intention of bringing it back. But until Warner Brothers figures it out.
about who's running it, who's show running it, what the concept is, they need to rebrand.

Speaker 3 They need to refresh.

Speaker 3 Personally, I think if we're talking Bachelor, there's a huge opportunity here to really modernize the show.

Speaker 3 Let's stop with tropes of like the pressure that all these cast members have to have this like sad story when some of them like just aren't that sad.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I think they need to make it like modern day dating. If I were running that show, I would cast 60 women.
I would. I would announce the women.

Speaker 3 I would announce the women.

Speaker 5 Nick's like, I wish I would have had more women.

Speaker 1 No, no, no.

Speaker 1 He's like

Speaker 5 29.

Speaker 1 It's not about that.

Speaker 3 It's not about that. It's not about that.
But I do think they need to have the lead be somehow, in some way, a part of the quote-unquote casting process.

Speaker 3 They need to give more shits about their lead liking more people on the show. I think they need to modernize the show in a way that's like gives 2025, right?

Speaker 3 And when I say cast 60, someone, they're already casting that many people that go through that final stage of the process. I think they need to announce these people much sooner than when it airs.

Speaker 3 Put them out there. Let them get messy online.
Let them make TikToks. Let the bachelor somehow interact via text messages.

Speaker 3 I think they should allow the bachelor to bring a phone, not necessarily their phone, but like a phone.

Speaker 1 Like Love Island.

Speaker 3 In a way, right? Where the show has access to all the text messages that are sent. So like the women could like text the bachelor.

Speaker 5 Like send a little news.

Speaker 3 Like when they're on the dance show. Maybe send a tent lady in photo or send a text when they're on a date.
Maybe they can actually eat their dinner.

Speaker 3 Maybe in like, you know how Bravo style where they go out and like engage with society. Why can't the bachelor do something like that?

Speaker 1 You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 5 Instead of the like concerts with no one else there

Speaker 1 dancing to a performance.

Speaker 3 Like stop making the limo exits or reveals like the main focus at the beginning of the show. They can still do a funny thing, but like allow allow the conversations to start happening.

Speaker 3 Like get these people invested in these characters far earlier than they do. They could modernize the show in the coolest way that would make it really popular.

Speaker 3 I don't know if Warner Brothers is

Speaker 3 right. They're so precious about like the success they've had in their flagship show.

Speaker 3 They're so precious they have fallen behind because they haven't

Speaker 3 had any competition for 20 plus years. And now that they have competition, they have fallen so far behind.

Speaker 5 They have put all their eggs into the golden franchise because it was such a major hit the first season with Gary, Jerry Gary.

Speaker 5 Anyways, Joan season was obviously everyone I think loved Joan, but now we have the new Joan rock star. We have the new golden bachelor.
His name is Mel Owens.

Speaker 1 He

Speaker 5 was like a

Speaker 5 former NFL player.

Speaker 1 Football player.

Speaker 5 Football player. He is 66 years old and he went and did this random podcast that like had nothing to do with Golden Bachelor.
He was talking football. I don't know what he did.

Speaker 3 He went to Michigan. So he did this random Michigan football obscure podcast.
This wasn't like sanctioned, clearly, clearly wasn't sanctioned by like anything ABC or Hulu or Warner Brothers.

Speaker 3 He just was a guy who's had a life outside of The Bachelor, right? He's a football guy.

Speaker 3 And he went on this like Michigan football podcast to talk football, but now he's since been announced in cast as the golden bachelor. They clearly asked him about that.

Speaker 5 So they said, when asked about his preferences and a partner, age was the first thing Mel referenced. I just said 45 to 60, just being honest, right? The former football player admitted.

Speaker 5 And then the process went and I was selected. Then we had lunch with the executive producer and I said, if they're over 60, I'm cutting them, says a 66-year-old man.

Speaker 5 Then he says, he says, oh, no, this is not the silver bachelor. This is the golden bachelor, but they're going to be hot.
Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it.

Speaker 5 He goes, you can't use the word cut. I go, that's an NFL term.

Speaker 5 Mel said he doesn't know anything about the women who will appear on his season, which films later this year, but said he knows they're going to be beautiful.

Speaker 5 As for other qualities he's looking for, the dad of two added, they got to be fit because I stay in shape.

Speaker 5 And I told producers, try to stay away from the artificial hips and the wigs, that kind kind of stuff.

Speaker 1 Oh, no.

Speaker 5 This is your golden bachelor.

Speaker 1 Oh, no. What a nightmare.

Speaker 3 This Warner Brothers cannot get out of their own way.

Speaker 3 Well, interestingly enough, we talked to someone on the ABC side of thing, and they were like, when they were excited about the casting, and they were saying how they talked to Mel and they thought, you know.

Speaker 3 I don't know, this guy, you know, he looks great for his age. He could definitely date younger if he wanted to.
So they had concerns like, you know, listen, The Bachelor is,

Speaker 3 it's a very specific show.

Speaker 3 The the bachelor is in a way kind of also an extension of the host it's not just about you you're there to tell other people stories you know it's there's other shows for that per se right like there's nothing wrong with an age gap there's nothing wrong with if you want to date younger at 66 do that but like this isn't the show for that you know what i'm saying and so they had concerns about his ability to be interested and i i was told that he specifically said to those people that he wanted to date women he he wasn't interested in dating younger he wanted to date women his age so that he lied to those people to get this job?

Speaker 3 And now he's going on this other like Michigan State football podcast where he thinks it's like just the bros.

Speaker 1 Just the guys.

Speaker 4 Think about being selected and being excited to go and then finding this information out and being like, great. So I'm cut night one.
I'm 65.

Speaker 3 Again, Mel, good for you. If you want to date younger, go and date younger.
That's your life. You should do that.

Speaker 3 But like, if you want to accept this role, you know, this role is about helping other people tell their stories, making these women feel comfortable, not shaming them for having a hip replacement surgery.

Speaker 3 You know, or

Speaker 1 extensions.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 3 or maybe like experiencing some hair loss later in life and like, you know, investing in a great wig and having them feel sexy about it. Like, this is your Golden Bachelor?

Speaker 6 I do fear that when...

Speaker 6 Before, obviously, I worked here and knew anything about The Bachelor, I found out about The Golden Bachelor and my friend and I decided to watch it because we were like, well, this is going to be insane because what's going to happen is you're casting an old man and there's only, you know, much love love to all the old men out there, but there's only so much you can expect of an old man in certain opinions on things.

Speaker 6 So we were like, this is going to be insane. And then it ended up being very sweet.
And then Gary ended up being Gary.

Speaker 7 But it's just kind of like, this is kind of the core issue with the Golden Bachelor, right?

Speaker 6 It's like, sometimes old men have antiquated views on women.

Speaker 1 At least Gary.

Speaker 1 You know, and it's like, what can you do?

Speaker 3 Well, at least Gary on, he was great on camera. I've heard Mel's stiff.
So not only is he antiquated, he's not.

Speaker 1 He's an old football guy. He's not charming.

Speaker 6 Can you expect him to be like, oh, yes, I love him.

Speaker 1 He's a bra. Obviously, you're mental records beautiful aging on him.

Speaker 3 It's a mess. You can't have him talking this way about their most precious entity.

Speaker 5 That's the only thing they have left.

Speaker 1 And it's so wholesome.

Speaker 4 Like, that's what I love about it.

Speaker 1 Exactly. It was.
I'm not watching. Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 3 Well, up next, Robin Del Monte, also known as Girl of Boss Town, joins us to talk some Love Island. And then we'll get into this page.
We got some summer house shake-up.

Speaker 3 I want to also recast the valley since we're talking about recasting Bravo shows. We have a new Beverly Hills Housewives.
A lot to get into.

Speaker 3 And later on, Jim Jeffries returns to the Vile Files to talk some reality TV in his new show he is hosting on Fox. All coming up this episode.

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Speaker 1 Robin, welcome back to the show.

Speaker 10 I'm so excited to be here. You guys were one of the first podcasts I've done.
This is my third time.

Speaker 1 Third time's a charm.

Speaker 10 Third time's a charm.

Speaker 10 So I'm very excited.

Speaker 1 I don't feel like I've been

Speaker 1 here for either.

Speaker 10 Right? Well, I mean, we had the iconic Peter moment where he came in for the interview so sweaty and

Speaker 1 you were there that day?

Speaker 1 Oh my

Speaker 3 Peter, Peter from Vanderpump, PR, yes, during scandal

Speaker 3 during scandal, and he was out there just ripping shots at 10 a.m.

Speaker 10 Yes, and then came in and just like let it go. And I was like, Okay, here we are.
And I'm a VPR girly, and now I see him at the Grove a lot.

Speaker 1 Um, I don't feel like putting you in that position. That's okay, yeah.

Speaker 10 But it's so funny because everybody in the room was kind of like, Okay, this is happening, but we like can't say anything. And then he left me.

Speaker 10 We're like, Okay, somebody, I think a producer came over with wet wipes and was like wiping down the microphone.

Speaker 1 I was like, Okay, let's

Speaker 10 get entertainment. Nothing, no hate to Peter.
I mean, it was, he really let it all out. So I think that was my favorite.

Speaker 10 But going into this and speaking about Love Island, I'm a Love Island girly, so I'll be excited to see how this one comes out as well.

Speaker 3 Well, you're like known as the internet's big sister. You're, you are, you, you made a name for yourself for the people who don't know, just making just wildly accurate predictions.

Speaker 5 Was your most recent one confirmed, the La Boo Boos?

Speaker 10 La Boo Boo. I predicted La Booboos and Addison Ray in 2021 in the same week.
And then both of those kind of came true within the same week, which I think you can say is trend cycling.

Speaker 10 But you know what? I'll give my prediction ability.

Speaker 1 I mean, it's funny.

Speaker 3 I was actually talking to Natalie this weekend about Addison Ray and be like, how did she do it? What? Back in the pandemic, you had this wave of TikTok stars.

Speaker 3 You know, it was like all these TikTok stars, they had just millions of followers.

Speaker 3 But it ended up being kind of almost for most of them, kind of worthless.

Speaker 3 And now most of them have just disappeared, these massive creators. But Addison Ray is one of the few who have have like made a phenomenal music career out of it.

Speaker 10 Yeah, and I was an Addison fan from the start. And obviously, a lot of those TikTok creators who became big in 2020 became big half from tweens, but half from hate.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 10 I feel like everybody was like, what is this dancing on the internet? So the hate really boosted their stardom, which I mean, is smart. But I was an OG Addison girly and she knew it.

Speaker 10 So she's like taken me out to dinner and we have like been in contact this whole time. And the whole time I was like, she's going to be a star.

Speaker 10 Just when we'd walk into like Tower Bar, which is like an old Hollywood establishment, the energy would just shift, like eyes would just shift. And I'd be like, This girl's a star.
Like, I know it.

Speaker 10 And so, I'm so happy for her success. And, um, I think her working with Lexi Smith, who's like kind of like her muse, her best friend, her dancer, really just like helped create it, but it's insane.

Speaker 10 I also think Charlie D'Amelio, not a lot of everybody's talking about the Addison Ray Renaissance.

Speaker 10 I think Charlie being on Broadway and doing what she's doing is like so admirable, so perfect for her. She seems so happy.

Speaker 10 So, yeah, the 2020 girlies who like rose above Addison and Charlie, I'm happy for them. But yeah, it's crazy.
I feel like Addison's going to be

Speaker 10 massive.

Speaker 3 I say the same thing about my wife about she's a star when I walk herself.

Speaker 1 Yes, exactly.

Speaker 10 But you can tell when

Speaker 10 that type of energy. Yeah, exactly.
I'm like.

Speaker 1 You're feeling it. You're feeling the pop star energy.

Speaker 3 People don't know yet, but she's doing big things that I'm excited for people to find out about. Well, she is.

Speaker 5 Yes. I do want to ask you, what do you make of Justin Bieber right now? It's giving a little little Britney Spears Dancing with Knives.
Okay.

Speaker 10 So another thing I don't know if you guys know, my Instagram started as like a Justin Bieber fan account. I don't think a lot of people know this, like back, back, back in the day.

Speaker 3 And we are also just, you know, big fans.

Speaker 1 We were at a big Christmas party. I think of like what was your name?

Speaker 5 Was it, was it different? Like, did you have like a.

Speaker 10 I won't say the name of what it was

Speaker 1 because Bieber heart.

Speaker 10 I'm like, I love Bieber 24-7.

Speaker 10 No, but I was like there from Common Denominator. I was there from mall tour.
Like, I was an OG Bieber girly.

Speaker 3 My first time in New York, I was 28 years old, and my girlfriend and I at the time, we got David Letterman tickets. We were true tourists because we stayed in Times Square.

Speaker 3 We got offered David Letterman tickets. We went there and I was like, who's the musical guest? They're like, well, yesterday it was Michael Boublay.
I was like, bum.

Speaker 3 And they're like, well, it's this guy named Justin Bieber. He was like 16 at the time.
Came out. Ben Stiller was like the main host.
And Bieber came out. And I was like, this motherfucker can perform.

Speaker 3 And I was a fan since then. And then a couple of years ago, Nellie and I went to a Christmas party that he was at and he was so lovely.
Oh, complimented my sweater. I asked where I got it.

Speaker 3 Was so just an absolute sweetheart.

Speaker 1 Hugged us goodbye.

Speaker 5 Was so kind.

Speaker 10 I've met him and Haley and

Speaker 10 the kindest, sweetest, nicest people. When it comes to what's currently going on with Justin, I think that there's two aspects to it.
I think that he is a creative genius.

Speaker 10 And like, he literally was playing the drums at age two. Like his brain works differently than everybody else.
I truly believe that.

Speaker 10 And I think when you are so talented, you see the world very differently. And then to go through all of that at a young age, you're going to have a lot

Speaker 10 on your brain mentally going through it. And I think that right now,

Speaker 10 what he is going through is definitely a lot, but I'm not going to point fingers and be like, oh, I think it's this. I think it's this.
I think it's this because I'm not in any place to do it.

Speaker 10 But I do think that in like five years, we will have the renaissance of Free Brittany where people are going to be like, wait i feel bad we shouldn't have been doing that like you know what i mean so he's been i mean he dropped drew house right and now he has skylark well even like the scooter brawn of it all like that man in a sense helped like race him in so many ways and then he fell apart with that and then the drew house of it all and now he's with skylark and he's working closely with eddie benjamin who is another like creative genius he dated maddie ziggler he's an artist um and i just feel like he's going through a lot of spiritual awakenings so we're letting that happen but i'll always love him i'll always be a fan meanwhile his wife's a new billionaire so yes i mean that's also

Speaker 10 fine everything's gonna be okay but i will say like when he posts on instagram i'm kind of like

Speaker 10 okay like i think maybe we should like put the phone down right now you know what i mean but we all go through those moments you see me tomorrow like having like all those stories yeah like robin put the phone down the phone now you're right i mean as a creative genius like i don't know there's certain things that like it always reminded me like when i was my first time I was on The Bachelor.

Speaker 3 You know, we expect a different from our reality TV stars than our, like, a major, like, musician, creative geniuses. Like, we don't want our reality TV stars to be trendsetters.
No, you know.

Speaker 3 Like, we don't, we don't want them showing up taking fashion risks.

Speaker 1 Of course, what the fuck are you doing?

Speaker 3 Yeah. I tried that.
People are like, absolutely not. When it comes to like hairy styles, they're like, oh, no, yeah.

Speaker 1 Pop off, King.

Speaker 3 Let's try that off. It's like a completely different, you know, and we have to let our stars take risks.

Speaker 10 Yes, exactly. I also think when your creativity turns into a career and there's pressure on it, it shifts things.

Speaker 10 So it's like everybody's expecting so much of him and he's just kind of wanting to go through this own journey. So we'll see.

Speaker 10 I will predict in five years there's going to be like a free Britney Renaissance being like, oh my God, like I can't believe we were that hard on him, especially after everything he's gone through.

Speaker 3 So any other kind of pop culture, like things that you're really focusing on right now or things out there that people should start paying attention to?

Speaker 10 Okay, so a lot of people come come to me as creative, predicting all these things, but I'm also just like a normal pop culture girly. Like, I love Secret Lives and Mormon Wives.

Speaker 10 I love all of the reality TV shows like Love Island that we're about to speak about. But I will say with Secret Lives and Mormon Wives, I've been like looking at it at a more granular level.

Speaker 10 And I think that Taylor Frankie Paul, did you hear what the producer or the director said about her?

Speaker 5 He has like Kardashian.

Speaker 10 She was like reality TV people come and go, but like, I think that like, she is a star.

Speaker 3 She's 100%.

Speaker 10 She is going to be like a snookie, like a Kim, where it's like exudes beyond this reality TV level.

Speaker 3 I can tell you because she's both a star and a professional.

Speaker 3 And I said this before they announced that I was hosting the reunion.

Speaker 10 Which is amazing.

Speaker 10 And everybody.

Speaker 10 Did you, I'm not sure, like, don't read the comments. Everybody was like, this is so right for you to host that reunion.

Speaker 10 Yeah, I think it's so smart because reunions sometimes are just like to blow smoke up people's ass and you'll ask the questions.

Speaker 3 I appreciate it. I'm very excited.
It's been a dream of mine. But before we recorded the reunion and, you know, I've interviewed a lot of different people on the show or whatever.

Speaker 3 And, you know, reality TV stars, obviously, you know, it can be nerve-wracking. You know, you're, it's like, you want to make good TV, but you, you don't want to be called out for your behavior.

Speaker 3 And Taylor came up to me and she's like, challenge us, push us.

Speaker 3 Like, you know, that was that no one's like, there's no reality TV star that I've ever interviewed other than Taylor Frankie Paul has ever like said that to me because she understands like the assignment.

Speaker 3 She's not afraid. She can be authentic.
She knows that she can be a little toxic and messy. She can be accountable for her decisions.
And she's an absolute star.

Speaker 3 And like, she's one of the very few reality TV stars I ever met with that type of quality.

Speaker 10 Yeah. No, I'm obsessed with her.
And I love how on the show, it's weird because it's like, like you said, she can be messy. She can be drama, but you like can't hate her, which I think is like

Speaker 3 so many other stars will like be messy and kind of like

Speaker 3 and pretend that like we're the ones who are delusional as fans. And it's like, and we're like, what? And Taylor's like, no, I'm just like, I'm just going to, this is who I am.

Speaker 3 And this is what you asked of me. And I'm giving it to you.
And just. But she, she.

Speaker 1 It's her full transparency.

Speaker 4 I feel like a lot of the times housewives come on and it's like they have a persona that they want to put out there and things that they don't want to get exposed.

Speaker 4 Where I'm like, Taylor specifically, I feel like is just like, well, here's my baggage. Here's my drama.
Here's what's happening today.

Speaker 4 And like, she's not sugarcoating anything or trying to hide anything, which makes it that much more endearing.

Speaker 5 Because I also feel like a lot of housewives have husbands who have reputations and it's kind of like, don't you go on there and like arrow dirty laundry. Yeah.

Speaker 10 And I also think that like there could be a college course or R speaking about reality TV and perception because it's like at first people went on reality TV and they were authentically themselves like the Jersey Shore.

Speaker 10 It blew up. We loved them for being messy.

Speaker 10 Then there came the 2016 renaissance where influencer marketing came into the picture.

Speaker 10 So it's like, okay, not only do I want to be myself and get a following, but I also want want to be perceived as somebody who can like get brand deals, who can work, who can turn mainstream.

Speaker 10 So they were aware of their perception. Then it kind of went in the opposite way where they're like, the messier, more chaotic I am, the better.

Speaker 10 So it's like, once perception came into the picture with reality TV, it shifted things and it became very difficult to actually be yourself and be marketable at the same time.

Speaker 10 And she has that, which I think might be the problem with Love Island USA, but we'll go into that when we talk about it.

Speaker 3 I would say like the, I would say most of her, like Taylor's definitely top of her game, but I to the credit to the rest of the women as well, I think as a collective, that group

Speaker 3 shares that sentiment. I think Taylor might be the best at it, but I think a lot of the women have learned from her.

Speaker 3 And to that point, like they found a group of women who understand their job first is to be reality TV stars. And that's why like most internet personalities, TikTokers,

Speaker 3 they've tried to make a lot of internet stars reality TV stars and it have fallen flat. And these women are the exception to the rule.

Speaker 3 And their exception to the rule is because, you know, there's so much personality behind them and they're willing to show it was where, you know, you go online, you can make a 15-second TikTok.

Speaker 3 You don't have to have that much personality. You just have to have the ability to like re-record it to get it right,

Speaker 3 so to speak.

Speaker 12 And then one last thing.

Speaker 10 So have you interviewed Brooks Nader? No. No.
Okay.

Speaker 10 So when we were at that event that I saw you guys at, I interviewed her and her sisters and they have like a sister reality TV show coming out to your point.

Speaker 10 So many people try to come out with these shows. The producers that I was working with after they left the room was like, I think there's something there.
And I 100% agree.

Speaker 10 And like, I didn't really necessarily watch Dancing with the Stars. I know that she was an influencer.
I know that she was in that relationship. She's gorgeous.

Speaker 10 The sisters, when they walked in, had such

Speaker 10 OG Kardashian sister energy. Like they were bickering during the interview in a way that was like so real.
And like I'm one of four sisters too.

Speaker 10 And I was like, okay, I feel like everybody thinks this show isn't going to do something. But I I weirdly got energy of like, if this is done right, I think there's something that makes sense.

Speaker 10 I mean, I want to put that on camera because it was literally like they were, the way they were bickering during the interview was like, are you wearing my shirt?

Speaker 10 Like, you know, these sister activity, but it was real. And I was like, okay, I think if they capture this right, I think we might be good.

Speaker 3 That's the point, right? Because so many reality TV stars right now will not do that.

Speaker 1 They'll show up to the event and be like, don't.

Speaker 3 Exactly. And then they'll do like some kind of like forced scene.
It feels forced. And it's just like that.
That's what we're getting from The Valley right now. It's just like, what are we doing?

Speaker 3 Is this a scene? I don't fucking know.

Speaker 10 The Valley is a social experience.

Speaker 3 If they're really trying to do that,

Speaker 3 then you're right. Yeah, I literally was like, okay, I want to put that out there.

Speaker 10 I mean, I feel like people don't have the highest of hope score, but I literally, even the producers that I was with, were like, okay, that was energy.

Speaker 10 Like, I don't know what that was, but that was energy.

Speaker 3 Do you watch The Valley?

Speaker 10 I do watch The Valley.

Speaker 3 I think I love the concept. I think they recast most of the people.

Speaker 10 What is your most controversial Valley opinion?

Speaker 3 I think most of them are losers.

Speaker 10 But isn't that what made Vanderpump Rules amazing?

Speaker 3 No, because what Vanderpump was a bunch of young people who, like, it was the Hollywood dream story, and we gave them grace because they were like, now they're parents, they're like 21, 22-year-olds.

Speaker 3 We allowed them to fuck up. And when I say loser, I don't mean like Kristen's on that show.
I don't think she's a loser at all. We love Kristen Doty.

Speaker 1 She is the best.

Speaker 3 She, because we've watched Kristen grow up on TV and we've watched her be vulnerable. We've watched her account for her mistakes.

Speaker 1 Now she is about to give birth to her first baby.

Speaker 3 Her partner, Luke, is a stand-up guy, a good guy. She, you know, we've seen growth, right? Jax and Brittany, they're losers.
And I say that because like it's the same shit over and over.

Speaker 3 There's no growth. There's no, it's just the same darkness.

Speaker 10 Especially because it's recorded of no growth. It's like we have watched you for 12 years.
Like every reunion, it became the joke of being like, well, I'm working on myself now.

Speaker 10 And Andy would be like, okay.

Speaker 1 Again?

Speaker 1 Here we go.

Speaker 3 Like the Kardashians, like Kardashians will show you messy. They'll show you drama, but they are aspirational.
They are not losers. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 3 They show you the drama and the fun and the messiness, but you also want to be them. There's nothing about Brooks or Jax or Jesse Lolly that is aspirational.

Speaker 3 It's just like a sad, it's just sad people who can't get out of their own way.

Speaker 10 I think, especially with the men on Bravo, I mean, I think there's going to be a whole dissertation about this. I mean, Lexi not getting asked back to Summerhouse.

Speaker 10 I know people have different opinions on that. I like

Speaker 10 that.

Speaker 1 I like Lexi.

Speaker 10 I feel like, by the way, like in 2016, when I moved to LA before I moved back home, I feel like I used to like see her out in the clubs and stuff like that.

Speaker 10 Like I specifically like remember her and I remember being like, that girl's like stunning. I liked her in Summerhouse.
I love all the Summerhouse girlies. I'm close with Paige.

Speaker 10 But it's like her not being asked back. It's like, okay, I'm not a producer.
I don't get this.

Speaker 10 But the men that just continue to get asked back on Bravo, I'm like, I don't want to start the like Andy favors men rhetoric, but it's kind of like.

Speaker 10 Why are we putting all these men in Bravo in such a position of power and then being like, oh my God, I can't believe they did that to their wives and moments.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
She's just like, we're putting them there, by the way, guys.

Speaker 10 Like, we're literally putting them in this position.

Speaker 10 And I think, especially when it comes to the Valley, it's like, no, no, no, like they're old and they're still doing this and we're eating it up question mark. Like, I agree.

Speaker 10 I think it's weird, but I love Kristen. She's like a Taylor Frankie Paul, like where it's like, I'm going to be messy and like literally be messy, but then is somewhat weirdly leveled.

Speaker 3 She has a, because she has a good heart, you know?

Speaker 1 And you can tell, and she always has.

Speaker 10 And she always has.

Speaker 1 I agree.

Speaker 3 I would would put Lala back on the valley. Yeah, she has an interesting backstory.

Speaker 1 She's definitely not a bad person.

Speaker 5 Yeah, her, like, living in this, what she calls, like, her pod with her mom and her brother, like, raising her two children is like,

Speaker 3 no, she shows growth. She might make mistakes, she might, like, fuck up, but, like, she, you know, there's just I need someone who can put somebody in their place on that show.

Speaker 4 Yeah, and I feel like Lala is the only one.

Speaker 10 And they're having like Britney do that, and it's like, this is not, it's too, it's too heightened, it's too emotional.

Speaker 3 Every time she speaks up and calls someone out, I'm like, deal with your shit first. I don't like, you're too tragic to like call anyone out.

Speaker 10 And like I give grace, too. It's like, I've had addiction in my family.
Like, I can't even imagine like dealing with that.

Speaker 10 But it's like, exactly, it's like, let's maybe like turn inward and kind of just like figure this out.

Speaker 5 Because it's like, you, I, you know, you, you feel bad for her, but then she says things like, I kind of wanted him to fight for me. Yeah.
Babe. Fight for you.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, I know.

Speaker 10 Got to get out of that.

Speaker 3 Like, you're shocked he didn't pay rent? Like, who?

Speaker 10 And I think, I think there's ways to show addiction on Bravo and to to show kind of like dysfunctional like mary cosby i don't know if you guys watching yeah oh my gosh mary cosby and her son like that was that was that was so brave genuinely it's close to home to me and my family situation i was like this is such a respectful way of doing this but also letting the audience in which is like so vulnerable and like i respect how that whole situation was done but now it's like it's being used as like not um utah but the valleys being used as like a drama indicator and it's like that shouldn't be pointed at as like oh my god like this drama next week it's like no that should be like, that's sad.

Speaker 10 Like, let's like not do that. You know what I mean? I don't know.
I completely agree with you.

Speaker 3 But props to Paige. I mean, I love someone who leaves out on top.

Speaker 10 Like, she best. And Paige, I did a long, long audition process with her for something for like a year.
And we had a bunch of chemistry reads.

Speaker 10 And she is somebody that is completely herself when the cameras are on, off. She has the it factor.

Speaker 10 I think that her PJ line, Daphne, like I obviously when influencers or creators come out with lines where we're like, oh, it's another one. I I think it's going to be very big, like a base, like a

Speaker 10 road. I think she's business savvy.
I love her. And I love somebody who goes out on top.
I love it. Cause you have to, you have to know.

Speaker 10 And she didn't make it like, this is my last season the whole season. She was kind of like, okay, so I did that.
And I'm leaving. And it makes sense because it's like she wants to sit in bed.

Speaker 1 Like I fucking do too. Like, I'm not going to go to a party house.

Speaker 3 Like, where's Summer House go from here? Like, Carl did not leave. There was like a fake announcement.
I was actually happy for Carl when I saw the fake announcement.

Speaker 3 After watching the Lexi and Jesse of it all wrap up of part one and blend it into part two,

Speaker 3 there wasn't like, I'm not, I wasn't that interested in part, the rest of part two. There's no

Speaker 3 Amanda and Kyle, like, will they, won't they have a kid someday? I don't, again, that's.

Speaker 1 Nothing.

Speaker 10 Yeah, I think that I heard, I saw on Brianna Chicken Fry's like TikTok or story that like she was talking to summer house people at one point.

Speaker 10 But I think there's a way in which I think Danny Pellegrino said it, have like a sex in the city like show with the people in the city during the week, running businesses, having drama.

Speaker 10 Like I would watch that because whenever they're in the city, they're doing more than when they're in the Hamptons and they can film more places and then do a separate summer house that's kind of like more of a

Speaker 10 Love Island-y audience, like a not younger, but like a I want to go out and be messy, which is

Speaker 10 and then stop and go for the other guy in the house. Right, right.
Like I think it needs to be that.

Speaker 4 I think it's okay to also say younger, too, because I'm like, we grew up with the cast. It's what, 10 seasons, nine seasons in.
Then I'm like, they're all well in their 30s. They're established.

Speaker 4 They're having kids. They're getting married.
They're starting businesses. That I'm like, that's the real stuff that we would want to be seeing in our demographic.

Speaker 4 But I feel like when I started watching the show, I was in their age demographic and I was like, yes, the party, the mess, the making out in the pantry.

Speaker 10 And I've never been to the Hamptons, but I watch the Hamptons every weekend on my Instagram stories from every influencer. So it's like, there's an audience out there doing that stuff.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? Sarfage is pumping. I know Sarfage has those chicken tower.

Speaker 5 Chicken tender towers.

Speaker 10 I've never been there because I've watched it on my stories.

Speaker 1 I've never been in the Hamptons either.

Speaker 1 I haven't either.

Speaker 1 I hate waiting in line. Yes.

Speaker 10 I hate waiting in line.

Speaker 10 And not in a pretentious way, but in a way where it's like, okay, like waiting in line for like two hours and then you go and stand in like a room and you're like, okay, like, well, like, what am I really doing?

Speaker 10 And then I hear everything's like really far away.

Speaker 10 It kind of like kind of reminds me of like a stagecoach or a coachella where the parties are like an hour away, where it's like, okay, this is, I, I, I like my bed, I like inconvenient fun, yeah, inconvenient fun, or it's like, um, the pregame is always more fun than the event, yeah, because then you're like in the Uber on the way there, and you're like, so very fun,

Speaker 10 like, you know what I mean? You're just like, yeah, and then you get there and you're like, what am I doing?

Speaker 3 Anyone watch sirens? Yes,

Speaker 1 oh my god, we just finished it last night.

Speaker 10 I think it was so also the second last episode was awesome.

Speaker 3 I didn't love the ending.

Speaker 10 The actress from the UK, who is in House of the Dragon, she's the younger sister. She's Simone.
Simone, yeah. I don't know if you've seen in her interviews.
She's British. She's British.
Yeah.

Speaker 10 And she's also like the complete opposite of her character.

Speaker 10 She's so like in interviews, somebody will be like, when you signed up for House of the Dragon, do you think it was going to be like Game of Thrones? She's like, not really. Like, I

Speaker 10 did anybody say we were trying to be like that. I don't know.
Like, whatever.

Speaker 1 She's so character.

Speaker 10 She's not media trained in the best way.

Speaker 10 She's definitely going to, and she's going to, she's playing Supergirl. I'm not into Marvel or those like superhero movies, but I think she's gonna have like a big Jennifer Lawrence.

Speaker 10 I'm relatable on a carpet and I'm a good actress. Rise to fame.

Speaker 1 And I'm here for that for her.

Speaker 5 I like her. Did you just see? Um, they just posted it, Harris Dickinson doing the Road Mist Spray campaign.

Speaker 10 No, oh my God, I didn't see that.

Speaker 10 I like him. I like him too.
Is he gonna be in the new Beatles movie?

Speaker 1 I believe. I believe so.

Speaker 5 He is, yeah.

Speaker 10 Which I'm so excited for because I'm a Paul Mezcal.

Speaker 1 Girly.

Speaker 1 Oh my god.

Speaker 10 And speaking of the UK and speaking speaking of Love Island, I literally want, I want to move to the UK more than anything. I love it there.
I try to go as much as I can.

Speaker 10 And I think JoJo Siwa being a UK TV personality makes the most sense of anything I've ever seen in my life.

Speaker 10 The Chris Hughes of it all, I'm sure you guys will hang out with Chris Hughes or have met him. I was an OG Chris Hughes fan.
I watched Love Island Season 3 live.

Speaker 5 So what do you think of this relationship?

Speaker 10 Okay, so I.

Speaker 5 His ex came out and said she's really famous. That was her response.

Speaker 10 Olivia was Olivia the end. Probably.
So I love Olivia. I'm an OG Love Island UK girl.
So his season, I don't know if you guys have watched it.

Speaker 10 You need to go and watch it, especially if you get like have surgery or get your tonsils out or something. It's a good one where you can sit and just watch the whole thing.

Speaker 10 It shifted the tone of Love Island forever in a positive way. It's so, so good.

Speaker 10 I think the relationship is a little weird, but I'm happy because I think she belongs in the UK, especially from a media perspective.

Speaker 10 I feel like in the UK, being weird and quirky and yourself and creative and changing all the time is like, people eat that up. Like,

Speaker 10 it's not looked up as like, oh my God, like, that's weird. They're like, okay, cool.
Anyways, let's go to the public. I don't really give a shit, but this is entertaining.
Like, you know what I mean?

Speaker 10 They wouldn't like dive into like, she wore this.

Speaker 1 So I'm happy for her.

Speaker 10 I, I do think it's a little weird just because like I love dance moms and I love Love Island UK.

Speaker 10 And I'm thinking at the times that those came out, I'm like, I would have literally never in a million years put this together, but I'm happy. I think that it's so smart.

Speaker 10 Not that it was planned, you know what I mean? For her to be a big UK TV personality. It makes sense.
It makes so much sense. Yeah.
So much sense.

Speaker 1 Seems really happy. And I don't blame her for wanting to be there.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's just.

Speaker 3 I look forward to meeting him.

Speaker 10 You guys need to watch Love Island Season 3. Yeah, we do.
It shifted everything. Because before that, Love Island was a raunchy, raunchy show.

Speaker 10 People would hook up on top of the beds and everybody would stand around and watch. Like it was.
So raunchy and they would drink.

Speaker 10 They would drink all day, smoked cigarettes. And then Love Island Season 3 became so big because of the cast.
The cast from that all became household names, major media stars.

Speaker 10 Chris's ex is like a huge, huge, huge TV personality. So they changed the age, like level or grade of the TV show so more families could watch it after that season because it became so big.

Speaker 10 And that's why they can't smoke cigarettes on screen anymore over there and don't drink as much because that season was so big. But watch it.

Speaker 1 It's incredible.

Speaker 3 Well, this is a great segue to get into Love Island.

Speaker 3 So obviously we have the beginning of season seven. Season six was in absolute behemoth.

Speaker 3 What are you thinking so far? Do you think it's living up to

Speaker 3 the hope and hype? It's more hope, I guess, than hype, just obviously because season six was such an anomaly. I'm watching it early on pretty optimistic.

Speaker 3 And I'm trying to like have patience because one, there's like 30, so many episodes. I think we forget like how much time it takes for some character arcs to happen.

Speaker 3 Like we didn't think of Leah and Rob in the beginning of the season of season six is that we thought of them at the the end of season six. There was a lot of like, who are these people? I'm not sure.

Speaker 3 Rob caught some heat from jumping in the pool, yada, yada, yada. It took some time.
What are your thoughts?

Speaker 10 So as a Love Island enthusiast, I've watched all of UK, all of Australia,

Speaker 10 now US. I got flown to Fiji in 2023 when they were really trying to push Love Island USA.
I went to the villa. I talked to the showrunners.

Speaker 10 I saw how the sauce was made and I gave my point of view of what I think could happen or should be done. And then Love Island USA exploded.
I'm happy for it.

Speaker 10 But my point to that is there's a formula to Love Island. And I think audiences from the USA aren't used to that.
So they're like, wait, why isn't this like last season? Like, there's a formula.

Speaker 10 You have to wait it out. Seasons, I mean, weeks three and four always pop off.
The cast out more of it all. So although it's, you can't, and you also can't compare seasons.

Speaker 10 Like Love Island UK is every season is different for a reason, but that's what makes it great.

Speaker 10 I will say when I tell people in the UK, I love Love Island, they're like, oh, that's, yeah, I watch it too.

Speaker 10 But it's kind of like a jersey shorts still kind of seen as like, not trashy, but like, oh, that's like reality TV, which is what makes it good. Cause the people who go on aren't like, I'm a brand.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 10 And I think the USA is already turning into people coming on being like, I'm a brand, which is my biggest critique.

Speaker 3 And Base is a YouTube star.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 10 And they did pick people for the most part who have like lower followings, but you could tell

Speaker 10 they're all, I'm a star already, which is like my biggest critique about USA. I think it'll be good.
I'm always a Love Island USA, not hater, but like I'm very critical.

Speaker 10 And I tell everybody, I'm like, please watch UK and then watch USA to really understand it and take it in. But I think there's stuff there.
I think there's meat there. And I think.

Speaker 10 The first, I, I like the first week and like, I'm kind of like a hater when it comes to USA. And I was enjoying it.

Speaker 3 I mean, I thought the first elimination would had way more stakes than I was expecting. Like usually the first couple eliminations, you're like, yeah, you know, it was kind of obvious.

Speaker 3 Like, but between Bell Dasha.

Speaker 1 Bell Dasha. Bell Dasha.

Speaker 11 She had star potential.

Speaker 10 I have something to say about Bell Dasha. Her thing on Instagram is Isabel Ann.
So I'm like, is the A

Speaker 3 rebrand.

Speaker 5 A rebrand?

Speaker 10 She's rebranding. Like, you know what I mean? I'm like, was that purposeful? Here's what's going to happen with Bell Dasha, and you can literally put millions of dollars on it.

Speaker 10 She's going to come back as a Cassa Moore girl.

Speaker 10 It's going to be this week. They're going to bring in somebody for Sierra that's going to be like, oh,

Speaker 10 his name's Nick, right? They're going to be like, Nick's now going to be like, well, I know what I put you through. And I really do want to be with you.

Speaker 10 And she's like, well, you didn't pick me right away. So I have to explore my options.
She's going to have a guy. She's going to pick him at the end.

Speaker 1 Then the third week.

Speaker 10 Nick. The third week is going to be them.
Okay, now we can finally be together now that we don't have two other people in the picture. Fourth week's going to be Cassel Moore.

Speaker 10 They're going to bring in Bell Dasha. That's what's going to happen.
Mark my words. Clip this, put it on Instagram.
You're welcome.

Speaker 10 But that is what's going to happen. It's happened on Love Island UK before where, like, kind of somebody with a lot of potential gets eliminated

Speaker 10 first week. What? Zimali.

Speaker 1 I didn't like that they brought her back.

Speaker 10 I didn't expect that.

Speaker 10 But yeah, that's going to happen.

Speaker 1 But I loved her.

Speaker 10 I thought she was so cute.

Speaker 5 I struggled with her in the first couple episodes. I mean, she spoke TikTok.
She made me feel like I was a boomer. I mean, the amount of stuff that she was saying, I like I hate it.

Speaker 1 No, yeah, I hate it. But

Speaker 1 that's what works, though. It's like

Speaker 5 I'm like, what?

Speaker 3 Where are we? It's unique. It's different.
You're like, you don't, you think you hated at first and then you're like, and then you're like, there's something there.

Speaker 3 And you're like, I can't believe she's gone. Because either way, we talked about her.

Speaker 1 You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 3 While we watched her, we paid attention to Bel Dasha.

Speaker 5 It's like she spoke in Morse code, though. Yes.

Speaker 10 Oh, well, I think I watch Love Island UK and I'm like, oh, the way they speak their lingo is like, I think like that's just UK lingo.

Speaker 10 But then in my head, I'm like, oh, is that their version of like Gen Z lingo? Cause when I'm watching this, I'm like, I'm 31 and, but I've, I'm with the kids, I'm on TikTok.

Speaker 10 Like, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 And I'm like, what are they saying?

Speaker 10 But it's in a way where it's like, that's where I think it's a little on brain because they'll be like, girl, like. They'll say it as it's like a slogan.

Speaker 10 I'm like, are they trying to make a TikTok sound out of this? Like, don't you feel like sometimes they're trying to make a TikTok sound out of it?

Speaker 1 I'm like, okay, but.

Speaker 3 Do you think Shelly and and Ace are playing the long game?

Speaker 10 No.

Speaker 10 So I, by the way, Shelly looks like Hallie.

Speaker 1 Bailey.

Speaker 1 Gorgeous. All the girls of the season.
It's stunning.

Speaker 10 Truthley, I'm like, what the hell? Like, breathtaking. I think I predict that Ace is going to find his girl in Casa more.

Speaker 10 I think they're going to play this like little long game here and there up until then.

Speaker 10 But I think he, he has Casa more girly written all over him in a way that's like going to work out in the end. Not like he's going to like leave and then like come back.

Speaker 10 I feel like he's, it seems very calculated. You know what I mean? But I feel like, I don't know.
I don't, am I the only one who doesn't see them together? I think it's like, it's too perfect.

Speaker 10 It's too like, oh my God, invisible string. Everybody wants them together.
And everybody in the comments I see on Instagram is like, why didn't he pick her or whatever, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 10 But I'm not the biggest, I'm not really rooting for them. I don't know.

Speaker 1 Really?

Speaker 8 I just feel like. You're rooting for them?

Speaker 3 They seem to be the two smartest people in the group.

Speaker 10 In what way?

Speaker 3 There's some of the other conversations like between, they're just a little, it's more like who's the girl that Ace picked?

Speaker 1 Amaya. Amaya.
And then who's the Florida boy?

Speaker 3 When they talk, it's like, I get these people. They just laugh, they goof.

Speaker 3 It's like, it seemed like Shelly and Ace would have like deeper conversations and they seemed to like enjoy that about each other. And it seemed like they could really.

Speaker 3 have an emotional relationship that I don't feel like I see with with Ace.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 10 Have you ever put on your producer hat though? Like sometimes I have a producer lens on when I'm looking at it.

Speaker 10 And I'm like, the producers saw the audience, because this is filmed in real time and posted in like real time, essentially. They saw, oh my God, they knew each other in the outside world.

Speaker 10 Let's tap into this. The audience loves this.
So we're going to show them having this deep, these deep conversations because we want to push that narrative.

Speaker 10 And whether they get together or they don't, that's going to cause.

Speaker 1 That's true.

Speaker 3 Cause I was, I was pissed when he didn't pick.

Speaker 10 Exactly. So I think that, but Austin is, why do I weirdly like not hate Austin? I don't know.
Like, I think that, like, he's so weird. It's like, I can't understand him.

Speaker 10 So maybe that's why I'm like, I might hate him because I don't understand him. Like, I'm like, this is just bizarre.

Speaker 10 And I weirdly think because I like, maybe it's because I like Shelly and Shelly still kind of likes him. So I'm like, is there something there? I don't know.
It's weird.

Speaker 5 Someone said he looks like someone drew Justin Hartley from memory.

Speaker 10 Well, not 1,000%.

Speaker 3 When Nick, Nick is like the Walter

Speaker 3 he also looks like Walton

Speaker 5 Oh my god. I'm like none of these girls can cover him with a starface pimple patch

Speaker 5 these girls are fighting over this man with his pimple is crazy

Speaker 10 but speaking of him okay this is controversial I know everybody was mad at him for not picking Belle dash a

Speaker 10 I wanted him to pick Sierra but I also like I think it is a little bit um of like it's week one and like he was put in that position.

Speaker 10 I don't necessarily, and this is not pick me because trust me, I fucking hate men. Like, hear me out, but like,

Speaker 1 I know.

Speaker 10 But I don't think he's like a bad guy or like an asshole.

Speaker 5 Like, I think, like, I think it was a little manipulative on the side of like, you know, she wasn't here to kiss. And then you took her up to soul ties and you were like, let's run back fourth base.

Speaker 5 Like, you got her to kiss you again.

Speaker 5 And then, giving that speech, he's like, that whole, we shared that special moment pause. She's like,

Speaker 3 and he goes, in the photo booth crushing there is this one thing i notice with young men on dating shows and i think fail like jesse sell him it a little bit the way the way they fuck up and do these women dirty and then immediately like forgive the women for something taylor he was like after this pissed me off yeah he goes well i i i forgive you to our alandrea you know she she talked to him he came up to her afterward and he was like yeah no i i forgive you for how you it's like why you forgive forgive her for what nick nick said this some version of that to i think either sierra or beldasha where it's like these guys immediately like turning on these women as if like these women did something wrong and i'm like what the like this is also what i think usa lacks i feel like in uk the male friendships and the men that go on that show are likable yeah and i feel like on usa the men are villainized right off the bat because they're doing stupid and i'm like i hate you already like i don't even like you like what are you doing and like especially like when they would like win a challenge or band together, they all stood up and left all the girls on the couch.

Speaker 10 I'm like, they're not really likable. And like, maybe they think that doing that is going to like give them a story arc.
Or like, maybe the producers think that that's what we want to see.

Speaker 10 But I'm also kind of like, yeah, it just, it never paints them in a good light. I don't think they know what they're doing.

Speaker 10 But then when they do do sweet things, I'm like, oh, they're only doing this because they want to look like the good guy. So I'm like, I can't win as an audience member.

Speaker 3 Why don't the women like Charlie Moore?

Speaker 1 I I feel like he's hot as far as I can.

Speaker 1 She's literally, yeah. He's my number one.
Don't get it.

Speaker 3 He's got a great voice. Like, and the women just ignore this guy.

Speaker 10 Like, gave them the no, he is my number one. Also, the girl that he's with, Hannah, is her name, Hannah.
Hannah, yeah.

Speaker 10 People say on TikTok, people keep tagging me in our TikToks and say that we look alike a little bit.

Speaker 10 And I think it's because we like both kind of have like a little bit of a lisp and like talk out of the side of our mouth. I think that they're going to go far.

Speaker 10 Like, I think they're going to grow into something.

Speaker 10 I love them. Girls, if you go on Love Island in the future, I always say pick the underdog.
Pick the underdog. There's a reason why everybody's going for the assholes at first.

Speaker 10 And the guys who are in the back, it's like, those are the Slowburns.

Speaker 10 Those are the ones that are good. I have no idea why nobody liked him.

Speaker 5 And I also were putting him on first base or not picking him like, you don't want to make out with this man?

Speaker 10 He has an accent.

Speaker 1 He's like, what is he, gentlemen?

Speaker 3 Yeah. And he seems like the most level-headed.

Speaker 10 And after the game, he's like, I think I gave all the girls the ick. I was like, you gave all the girls that

Speaker 3 so that says him being self-aware, just knowing what the ick is, just like conscious that like he might do something. These other guys can't even comprehend they might turn off women.

Speaker 1 Yeah, literally.

Speaker 10 And like every time they like fuck over a girl, like when the guy was like, and they're back to 50-50, all the guys were like, yes.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It's like weird.
He's like, what are we doing here?

Speaker 10 Like, I completely agree. I have no idea.
But then that also was like, I think he brought it up, which is another self-aware point.

Speaker 10 He's like, I'm not the guy that they had a crush on in middle school. Like, I'm not the guy guy that they had a crush on in high school because our cultures are different.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 10 So they're not like seeing me right away and being like, oh my God, you know, just because he's different. But yeah, I am like, why is nobody after him? I have no idea.

Speaker 5 This might be controversial, but I hate the way Huda went about telling

Speaker 5 Jeremiah that she's a mom. It felt so, if I'm her child, it's giving you're embarrassed of me.
It's giving you don't want to share.

Speaker 5 Like, if, if, God forbid this ever ever happens, Nick and I get a divorce and I'm on Love Island USA and I am on Love Island USA.

Speaker 5 Which I don't know if I'd ever do have to leave my child for two months with no contact. Sorry, not interested.
But like, I'm leading with that, right?

Speaker 5 Like, I don't even want to entertain the possibility of someone who's not like going to love my daughter. So, like, why would I even like hide that for a moment?

Speaker 5 She told the women immediately, like, open the door with being like, hey, my name's Huda and I'm a mother.

Speaker 5 So if you don't have the mature like responsibility to deal with that, then don't even try to fucking talk to me.

Speaker 3 I want to give her grace, but after hearing Natalie's take while watching it, then I feel like it's giving

Speaker 3 I want to stay on the show.

Speaker 1 I have a theory. Give it.

Speaker 10 Jessica, Love is Blind

Speaker 10 hiding that she not hiding or like not saying that she had kids, then saying she had kids. Big reality TV moment.
Everybody was talking about it. The you will choke everything.

Speaker 10 I think maybe either producer saw that or she saw that. And during her interview process of Love Island, she's like, I'm a mom.
I'm nervous to come on and tell people.

Speaker 10 And they were like, you know what? Like, this is your show. Like, this is your opportunity.
Like, you don't have to tell everybody right away. Maybe tell the girl.

Speaker 10 I think there might be a little producer of it all. Cause she came and she's like, I'm a mom.
Like, you know what I mean? Like, and then her not telling them, I think there might be some sort of.

Speaker 10 producer in her ear being like, I would wait to tell somebody until it's like, you know what I mean? Or she could just be saying that. And, like, I'm not a mom, so I don't get it.

Speaker 10 But I also, and this might be controversial, but I think that telling somebody from the start not only is like a sign of respect, but it's like, this is who I am.

Speaker 10 Like, that's going to be a massive mess of our. Obviously, you don't introduce the kid until you're comfortable and like figure that out.
But I do think that that was a little weird.

Speaker 10 And his reaction was completely okay. Cause I would be like, 100%.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God.

Speaker 10 Because when you date somebody who has a child already, I come from a family. My My mom was divorced twice by the age of nine.
I met boyfriends. I met, I had stepdads.

Speaker 10 When you date somebody with a child, you are not dating and going to be newlyweds and have that time alone. Like, there's somebody else in the picture.

Speaker 1 It's a different relationship. Different relationship.

Speaker 10 Different relationship. So it's like, I understood his reaction.

Speaker 5 But then it felt like she was trying to like sell her daughter. She's like, she's got a, she's just like me.

Speaker 10 She loves arcade.

Speaker 5 She loves this. She's so cool.
She's so this. And it was like, you don't have to do all that.
Like, you don't have to try to like make her sound.

Speaker 1 Yeah. He'll love her.
Yeah.

Speaker 10 What are your thoughts on them in general? Hate.

Speaker 5 It's four days in, bitch. Like, you cannot.
She was so mean to that new bombshell. Oh, yeah.
So mean.

Speaker 3 I don't know what it is about her, but she's dirty. It's like,

Speaker 1 you just met her.

Speaker 3 Like, she was playing a game. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Also going back to like the kid thing, I also think it was how she led into it with the whole like, I have a second bedroom.

Speaker 4 Like say you have an office, like if you don't want to like talk about your kid, but it's like you're, you're, you're setting it up. Like there's this big, scary secret.

Speaker 5 Even the lead up to that whole conversation on the dock where it was like, I just have to tell you something.

Speaker 1 It was like, this could be an STD murdered someone. Like,

Speaker 3 the, uh, the, we're a mom and it's, they're just, they're not playing the long game and there, I think there's going to burn out way too early.

Speaker 10 Well, I think, did every, I haven't really seen the narrative online about this, but he goes, but if we go all the way and win, that, that, I texted Leia literally was like, did you catch something that was a giant red flag?

Speaker 10 That was obviously, and he's like, Well, I mean, like, make it to the end. And he like corrected himself.
Now, in my head, from a producer, like, by the way, I've never produced anything in my life.

Speaker 10 I'm, this is just this lens that I have.

Speaker 1 Some people are just born with it. Yes, literally.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 10 maybe it's because I always say, like, the TV raised me, like, the TV was my babysitter.

Speaker 10 Now, from this point, if anybody comes in and tries to date her or pursue her, they're going on to be the good guy, to have that role on the show of like, you know what?

Speaker 10 Like, like, I'm going to come in and like be the guy that like takes it well that she has kids.

Speaker 10 Like, and if they stay together, in his head, he's like, oh, I'm going to win the show because like I'm going to be the guy that she deserves. And we're going to have this family.

Speaker 10 And that's going to make people root for us. Like, I feel like she is set up for failure.
no matter what, which like sucks.

Speaker 10 But I think that like, if they ever break up, the next guy who comes in who tries to be with her, it's going to be for a reason, which might be why she was kind of like hesitant to say she had kids to begin with.

Speaker 10 But like, I just think that like, there is no way, shape, or form where she's going to leave this happy,

Speaker 10 which will be good for the show and might be good for her socially or like career-wise. But I just think that like, it's going to explode.
It's going to explode. Like, there's no way.

Speaker 10 And, but I will say, maybe I've worked, I've been working on my emotional maturity. I'm in a healthy relationship now.
You know, I'm in therapy.

Speaker 10 And I totally think that she approached the situation wrong.

Speaker 10 But maybe it's just because because like I'm like, not like a proof, but like if I saw the guy that I really liked doing that with all these girls, maybe it's because I like didn't date a lot.

Speaker 10 I would kind of be like, oh my God, like that hurts me. Like that upsets me.

Speaker 5 I wouldn't have every right to like have her feelings hurt. Right.
Like, I think it's hard to see any of these girls like, of course, for Alandria to watch like Taylor make out with all.

Speaker 5 I think it probably like there was a moment in her head where she was like, damn, that kind of sucks. Like whatever.

Speaker 5 But I think the fact that she was like death staring this man to the point where he felt so uncomfortable, he couldn't even participate in the fucking game.

Speaker 5 He was like, I didn't, I didn't even kiss her back.

Speaker 1 I, I, my hands weren't on her.

Speaker 3 Like, he was in four days.

Speaker 5 He was very, it seems, it's giving like he is scared

Speaker 1 of her.

Speaker 10 I also think the thing with Love Island that makes it great and like horrible for the people, which is all reality TV, is since there's no phones, no books, no nothing, like you literally.

Speaker 10 have nothing all of their attention energy all their energy energy goes to the person they're pursuing Yeah. So, from a girl's perspective, they're like, this is what I've always wanted.

Speaker 10 Look, a man is giving me all of his attention.

Speaker 10 This is love.

Speaker 10 And guys are like, well, I'm bored. Like, I'm just going to, yeah, I guess this is really all I have to do.
Have another chat. Yeah.

Speaker 10 So, in their heads, they're like, even though it's been four days, they're like, no, like, this is like 100% real. Like, he's giving me everything.
I've always wanted his full attention.

Speaker 10 But it's like, it's been four days.

Speaker 5 Like, I do wish some of the women would check. Huda, like, Ace did of him being like, we're we're four days in.
She's like, I don't care.

Speaker 5 It's like, I wish some of these women would be like, babe, you can't be pissed off at this bombshell she's doing.

Speaker 10 She also can't say, well, because I have a kid and I told him, then, like, he needs to take me more seriously.

Speaker 10 Because 1000%, if I was her, I'd be like, yeah, like, I need you to take me more seriously. I have a child.
But from his perspective, he's like, well, I came on this dating show.

Speaker 10 Like, I don't know if I want to have a kid. You know what I mean?

Speaker 5 So it's like, you can't be taken seriously when you're on Love Island squirting ketchup up people and like swallowing popsicles.

Speaker 1 Like, you're just not convinced,

Speaker 1 I have a kid.

Speaker 10 And like I can still think in her head, it's 100% feasible for her to be like, well, I want the guy who's with me to like respect me and like want to be with me.

Speaker 10 Like I just don't have a kid, but it's like, yeah, we're on Love Island though. And like

Speaker 1 not what's bashing. Yeah, he didn't sign up for that.

Speaker 3 It's early, but who amongst this cast do you think has the biggest star potential outside of Love Island? Do you think there's the PPG element possible with this group of cast?

Speaker 3 Is there a Rob, so to speak?

Speaker 10 I think this is a very, even though they're focusing on the men, I think this is a girl heavy season in the sense of personalities.

Speaker 10 I mean, none of the guys' personalities really like blew me out of the water at all.

Speaker 10 I think it's really early to tell, but I say, I think that Sierra is going to be a big fashion influencer girly afterwards.

Speaker 5 Isn't she kind of already somebody in Arizona?

Speaker 10 Yeah, I follow a girl who is good friends with her.

Speaker 10 And I think she's kind of like a fashion influencer girly, but I think they're not really showing much of her personality right now because the storyline.

Speaker 10 I think she might come out as like a leader of the trio of the friend group. Like I think she's going to have a big story arc.
And I also think Alandria, I think she's going to be a big

Speaker 1 person.

Speaker 10 Stunning.

Speaker 10 Her, wait, her body during the day.

Speaker 1 Also, the way that she

Speaker 5 checked Jeremiah being like, are you not scared?

Speaker 1 And he's like, yep, possessed.

Speaker 10 Yeah, I think, I think though, I think Orlandria is going to have a big story arc. I think she's going to get hurt and then maybe have a happy ending.

Speaker 10 Um, and I think that Charlie and Hannah, is that her name? They're quiet right now. I don't ever think they'll bring drama, but I think they like might be the couple.

Speaker 10 I think they might last very, very long, and like he might stay faithful to her and Cassa more.

Speaker 10 Like, I have faith for them, but listen, next week, it literally might be like him like making out with every girl in the house, which he did when he walked in, which I also thought was like, What the hell?

Speaker 5 Did you see Austin take a shower and then smell his underwear and wipe his face with it?

Speaker 10 I didn't.

Speaker 1 Okay, I didn't. I wish I didn't.

Speaker 10 Or the IUD that fell out.

Speaker 5 Oh my God, people are so fucking stupid.

Speaker 1 You know why that all crazy.

Speaker 3 You know what the IUD means?

Speaker 5 No, everyone, everyone was talking about that. Yeah.

Speaker 3 You know what that means? What? All that means is that they're the biggest show on reality TV right now. That's like, that's how Bacher Nation was like for a while.

Speaker 3 When you had, like, when it's fans, they're doing deep dive in these people's lives. When they would just look, they would break down every scene of every show.
All that means is you're number one.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Like, you know, the fan base gets so intense.
So, like, they just, they want, they want to find anything to talk about when they like, will screenshot an IUD and make such a big deal about it.

Speaker 3 Whatever it was.

Speaker 1 Like, whatever it was. Fall out.
That's going to be a brand partner. That is all it's going to be.

Speaker 3 But I'm just saying, it just, it just, it shows the success of the show and its hype because of the, like, just the interest. You know, they're, they're paying that much attention.

Speaker 10 to the show what they're just they're looking for anything to make something how many do you think is going to be not the underdog or like somebody who's going to like come up and have a moment i don't know i mean I truly think Shelly is like the most loved right now.

Speaker 5 Gorgeous. I think because she's bisexual, she kind of like gives that.

Speaker 10 Do you think she'll ever go for a girl?

Speaker 1 That's what I want. That's how

Speaker 1 she has it.

Speaker 5 Yeah. I kind of want for her to go for a girl.
I mean, what, Sierra walked in and was like, I kissed all the guys. Now it's time for me to kiss all of you.

Speaker 3 I think Sierra's a star.

Speaker 1 I think she's a star. And I think she's gorgeous.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 10 I like her. I don't think they've showed her personality yet, but I think she's going to like maybe this week have a moment where she pops off a little bit in a good way.

Speaker 3 I I was a little bummed to, and maybe as a show, but when Nick went back with Beldasha, I was a little bummed that Sierra didn't like make moves. It's just like

Speaker 3 he's too beneath you like to get all like all kind of desperate about it.

Speaker 10 I hated that. I hated how, and this is props to her.
I just hate how in the confessional, she was like, actually, it's like kind of pissing me off that he can't pick somebody.

Speaker 10 But then to his face, she's like, you know what? This is your journey. Take your time.
And like, I, I respect it.

Speaker 1 Honestly, I encourage it. I was like, I wanted her to pull it out.

Speaker 10 That was very people. That was very like pick-me.
And I don't think that's who she is at her core. And I don't blame her for playing that because she's like, I want him to pick me.

Speaker 10 Obviously, like, literally, being on the show and being a pick-me is the show. Like, you want them to pick you.

Speaker 10 Yeah, I hated that. I was like, what are we doing? Because sometimes the guys like it when they're like, okay, well, like, if you're confused, then like, that's my answer.

Speaker 3 So Nick forgot that Bell Dasha existed until she started like getting attention from some of the other guys.

Speaker 10 He even said it. he's like i like when somebody's not into me yeah i was like oh well that i mean there we go that there's the formula

Speaker 10 there's the show yeah all right i thought there was a second he was gonna pick beldasha just because it was like because he's with sierra this week yeah i think he would have picked beldasha if it wasn't an elimination i i can see that i can see that because he wanted to like see how that would pan out yeah i think next but also it's like next week they're gonna come in so guy heavy they're gonna bring in like two bombshell because it's all been girls and like that's kind of how the formula goes they They flip week to week of like, I would love for them to bring in.

Speaker 5 I think Jeremiah said that he was like attracted to Hispanic Latina women. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Like, I would love for them to bring in a bombshell Latina woman and just see if Jeremiah will just lean any sort of way because it's, it's, I want to tell this relationship.

Speaker 10 The audience is reacting that way. They're like, we want Jeremiah's head to turn where I'm like, oh my God, like, he's gorgeous.

Speaker 1 Gorgeous.

Speaker 1 Like, for him,

Speaker 1 gorgeous.

Speaker 5 I'm actually so sorry.

Speaker 3 Every Every time he's on camera, I'm like, Jesus Christ.

Speaker 1 No, he's striking.

Speaker 5 Yeah,

Speaker 10 he is like, he looks like an actor or somebody, and I couldn't put my finger on it. But yeah, he's absolutely gorgeous.
Do you guys, do you think he's actually a good guy?

Speaker 5 He seems like he is, which is...

Speaker 3 There's no reason to think he's not yet.

Speaker 5 I mean, the fact that he didn't kiss her back, the fact that he sat down and had that conversation with Amaya and was like, I'm going to go. Like, he didn't lean, he didn't flirt.

Speaker 5 He didn't lean in any side of it.

Speaker 3 I don't think bad guys would have looked as uncomfortable as he looked at home base playing that game where he really looked like he was trying not to kiss one of the bombshells. And

Speaker 3 I feel like the scummy guys would have been at a point.

Speaker 1 They would have leaned in and be like,

Speaker 1 it was a challenge.

Speaker 4 What about like a wolf in sheep's clothing where it's like saying all the right things?

Speaker 1 Like for me, I'm like, he's very possessive.

Speaker 10 He clearly like has.

Speaker 1 How is he possessive?

Speaker 4 They both are. Like they're very much like, you're not going to talk to anybody.
It's day two and you're on Love Island.

Speaker 1 It seems more like her driving.

Speaker 5 I think he started it a little bit. And then once she got wind that he was possessive, she was like, oh, I like it.

Speaker 1 And he gave him possession of it. She's like,

Speaker 10 my only worry is like, look up what happened with Scandival. It was a literal national

Speaker 10 news story. Men know if I go on TV and fuck over a girl who people think is a fan favorite, I am more than done.

Speaker 10 The thing that is great about Love Island until they bring in the games where they show the public's comments,

Speaker 10 you don't know who's a fan favorite because, like, it's live. Like, you know what I mean? So in his head, he might think, okay, like, she is a mom.

Speaker 5 She's what if after he finds out that she's not, he's like, it so, but I also am with you guys.

Speaker 10 I'm like, he doesn't seem like a good guy, but like you said, anything's possible.

Speaker 10 I think that also one more thing I wanted to talk about in the sense of the game with the suitcases, with the answers. I think they definitely asked those questions during casting.

Speaker 1 For sure.

Speaker 10 Because that's why I think Austin's answers were so crazy. Because he was probably like, I'm going to say all this shit to get on the show.

Speaker 10 Do you know what I mean? Because some of the answers for all of them didn't add up.

Speaker 10 I'm like, this was definitely casting questions, and people played it safe or went completely outside of the box to get on the show.

Speaker 4 100% Nick being confused, being like, Wait, no, I for sure cheated.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I've never seen it.

Speaker 5 Also, not his ex being like, that was about me. And I knew he told me he didn't cheat on me.

Speaker 3 How do you know it was you?

Speaker 1 Five years later.

Speaker 10 Like, it could be like a high school girlfriend, a middle school girlfriend. And like like the bodies of it all being like, how many people have you slept with?

Speaker 10 Like, I mean, obviously, like, maybe I'm just like old, but I was kind of like, and I don't for everybody, but I'm like, to say that on national TV, like with your family watching and stuff like that, like, I don't even have a good relationship with my family.

Speaker 10 I was just like, this is like, TV's crazy.

Speaker 1 It's like none of your business is crazy.

Speaker 10 Like, it's like, okay, so she, okay, yeah, she slept at 18. 18.
It's like, what? What's going on? Like, this is like actually fucking crazy. Like, and maybe I'm just like old now, but I was like, wow.

Speaker 10 Like, I mean, and good for them.

Speaker 3 Like, I'm not judging every, anybody's numbers, but I was like, the fact that like this is what we are watching is entertainment and we're like loving it but it's it's it played into the the stereotype of how like men always like lie and they they add numbers to their roster and women tend to like you know leave it keep it safe yeah keep it safe do you think it was a little uh risky of the producers to throw in the nude question given the controversy they had last season the new the nudes question the way these fans like start like looking and i mean for yeah for austin to be like thousands of nudes that's just literally giving the audience like a chance chance to be like, that hit thousands of nudes are out there.

Speaker 5 I should go and look for my producer goggles.

Speaker 10 We're not on for that one. And you guys make an incredible point.

Speaker 10 That has to be.

Speaker 10 And I, I, you know, like, who here has said controversial tweets?

Speaker 1 Like, how many of you guys have done controversial tweets? Like, it's like literally. Thousands.

Speaker 1 All right. Let's go find them.
As someone who

Speaker 3 was born in reality TV, I have so much empathy for just like the, how difficult it can be to like come off these shows.

Speaker 3 And it is infinitely more challenging coming out of Love Island because it's one thing to film a show, have the show wrap, go live your life, anticipate the show airing

Speaker 3 three to 12 months later. These people are become famous off the grid.

Speaker 3 And that is

Speaker 5 walk out to it.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 3 it's not right. It's kind of fucking, it's weird.
And it's just like, it's, it's scary.

Speaker 3 It's almost, it's cool for them how popular this show is, but it's potentially very scary because it's, there's so many like clout chasers out there.

Speaker 3 All the exes, you know, everyone wants their moment.

Speaker 10 They didn't do this on USA, but in UK last year, they you aren't allowed to post on your social media while you're in the house.

Speaker 10 Like, you know how like now they have friends like running it so you can gain followers and stuff like that.

Speaker 10 In the UK, they stopped allowing people to post on their social media pages during the show because it was getting like so much bullying and stuff like that.

Speaker 10 But then also I was like, that's interesting because then like they'll come out inevitably like with less opportunity. I don't know.
It was, it was interesting that they did that.

Speaker 10 And I wonder if they'll ever get to a point in the USA where they do that.

Speaker 5 Yeah, because I wonder if like they're maybe Huda is getting a lot of shit right now, but say she makes it to the end and everyone loves her.

Speaker 5 It's like she comes out and she had no idea that there was all that hate and she just comes to her.

Speaker 10 And also like the hate can get like, like you said, like insane.

Speaker 1 Insane.

Speaker 10 And you walk out and you're like, okay, I was a waitress last week and now I'm literally like the most hated woman on the internet.

Speaker 1 The most hated woman on the internet. Yeah.

Speaker 3 It's also really early. I think people forget that Leah caught early heat last season, season six, and she became

Speaker 1 a huge fan favorite. Yeah, so it's so early.

Speaker 10 It's the formula. It's the formula.

Speaker 1 Did you ever watch Bachelor?

Speaker 10 So I watched Bachelor

Speaker 10 Emily Maynard's season.

Speaker 10 I watched like early Bachelor. I watched your season because of the toast.

Speaker 1 They fucking hated me then.

Speaker 10 Yeah, you were in the basket of like the people hated. Then you had your redemption arc.

Speaker 1 You know what's so funny speaking of the toast and Nick is like reminded this came off of my 42 page.

Speaker 5 And it's Nick. I guess he has Claudia on.
I got to tell Claudia.

Speaker 1 Remind Claudia about that. During the pandemic.

Speaker 5 During the pandemic, he had like Claudia on. It was via Zoom, whatever.
And Nick was like, he asked her something about their friendship. Like, yeah, like our friendship, something.

Speaker 5 And she was like, it means so much to me. Like, I honestly, like, it has changed my worldly view.
Like, I don't think I've ever had a friendship like this before in my life.

Speaker 5 And I just like can't believe that we're friends. And Nick was like, yeah, I mean, I feel the same way.
And it was like so clear that she was being sarcastic.

Speaker 1 Nick was like, it was the pandemic.

Speaker 3 I was just practicing gratitude. I thought we all could die, you know?

Speaker 10 But it's weird because, like, I'm the biggest reality TV person and like, I like, don't really watch the bachelor. Like, I'm very good friends with Gabby Wendy.
Like, we work together a lot.

Speaker 10 I love her so much. I went on her podcast.
I had no idea she was the bachelorette. Like, I had no idea.
I like thought she was like on the show.

Speaker 10 And then I was like, so, like, did you go on that show like wanting to get married or whatever? She's like, I literally was the bachelorette.

Speaker 1 I was like, oh, what? I literally had no idea.

Speaker 3 But, um, the only reason why I asked is because they are going through a bit of a potential rebrand. They haven't been picked up.
They have their 30th. How would you modernize the show?

Speaker 10 So I don't know if I can say, I'm pretty sure I can say this.

Speaker 10 A couple of years back, I met with people about this in the sense of, it was like for an interview with some people from like ABC being like, what, like, what do you think the show needs, essentially?

Speaker 10 And I think I have a TikTok about it from like four years ago. I was deep in my Love Island phase.

Speaker 10 So I was like, I think you need to bring a little bit of a live aspect to it in the sense of like my idea was, so so you know how sometimes they show like the first three people that are going to be on the show once they announce the bachelorette they like show the audience people who are going to be on the next season or whatever yeah i think that there should be some sort of thing where the person who's the bachelor or bachelorette gets like a tinder almost and so does the audience it's like an app and you like swipe left or right there's a little bio to say like who you want to be on the show or not and then the the person does that and then like three weeks into the show they bring in some of the people that the host the bachelorette said that they wanted or add some of the people that the audience wanted to see that wasn't there originally.

Speaker 10 Like, I think there needs to be some sort of live aspect to it.

Speaker 10 But at the same time, it's like you could try to rebrand and reinvent the Bachelor Bachelorette, and people have said it's needed it for so long, obviously.

Speaker 10 But then it's also like, will that really still be the Bachelor Bachelorette if it's fully reinforced?

Speaker 3 I mean, I mean, we're on the same page, we're talking about it.

Speaker 1 It's kind of like let a dead dog lie, though, you know?

Speaker 10 That's sometimes how I feel about it.

Speaker 3 They're going to try.

Speaker 3 We were talking about it about an hour before you showed up.

Speaker 3 I think the lead needs to have some kind of involvement in the casting. I think the lead should have a phone throughout the season that's not their phone.

Speaker 3 It's a show phone. It's controlled by the phone.
When you're not on a date, someone could text them. Yep.
Modernize it in a way instead of like showing you a lot of people.

Speaker 1 I like that.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Yeah. And like the lead has to has some say.
And like, I think they should cast 60, not 30, and allow these women to like go on, go online and start being characters online before they even show up.

Speaker 10 so the audience gets invested in them i agree that's i've said that for a minute too because it's like you should have a little bit of a say it does it doesn't need to be a full shock factor you know what i mean yeah

Speaker 5 we have a little bit of breaking news justin baldoni's 400 million countersuit against blake lively and ryan reynolds has been dismissed by the judge pop off

Speaker 5 kind of crazy that's insane

Speaker 10 are you guys

Speaker 3 very much team blake and team ryan yeah so i

Speaker 10 am not as deep in it as somebody might think that I would be. See, I am so bad with like propaganda, which is probably not like a good thing to say.

Speaker 10 But like when I'm on TikTok and I see one TikTok on one person's side giving all the facts, I'm like, wow, you know what?

Speaker 1 Team thing.

Speaker 10 And then I see the next deep dive and I'm like, oh my God.

Speaker 1 Yes, literally. So it's so hard.

Speaker 10 It's also a very PR agencies getting involved to specifically trash other people's images. I'm like, I have no idea if what I'm seeing is real or not.

Speaker 5 It's also a very toxic subject. We've left it alone for a while because people are very, very opinionated on it.
And it's just been like not worth, like, we've been like, y'all know our stance.

Speaker 3 I mean, my, my stance started when I interviewed Justin years ago.

Speaker 3 And he's probably the, well, he's the only guest I've ever had that I had a very visceral negative experience where I just felt like this, it was a fraudulent person.

Speaker 3 It was just my, my opinion, my take. And yeah, I just wasn't surprised.

Speaker 3 And, and, uh, and then just, I think people are just ignoring, like I've said before, the claim was always sexual harassment, not sexual assault.

Speaker 3 And you can, like making someone feel uncomfortable in the workplace is obviously can is, there's a spectrum of that.

Speaker 3 But I think the real crime that people are completely ignoring was his, his response to that, which was the online, the team that he hired to go out and hire and have this very organized smear campaign that I think is a just a

Speaker 3 very

Speaker 3 elaborate and very kind of scary thing about like how

Speaker 3 people can go after their accusers in the same way that you know that that that's a playbook of the oldest time but now that it's just an elevated playbook using the power of the internet which i think is very scary and you saw him do that and i think everyone's kind of ignoring that i want to know i don't know if it would be a documentary or like a scandal type show where they show the inner workings of those agencies doing that.

Speaker 10 Like that is just, and it exists. Yeah.

Speaker 10 And everybody in the industry knows it exists, but the consumer is so blind to it, which is like another thing that I find extremely fascinating, especially ever since being in the public eye and kind of being on the back end of it.

Speaker 10 Is like, and having my best friends from home who grew up in New Hampshire and Boston, when they speak about celebrities and bring things up, I'm like, oh, you don't get it.

Speaker 10 Like, you don't, you read what the internet's like, you get what their PR team is trying to

Speaker 10 put out there. I'm like, it's just so interesting.
I mean, I have not dove into the

Speaker 10 whole case fully, but but I am interested to learn more about those techniques and that agency and how that works. Because imagine being the person who works on a PR team like that.

Speaker 10 How does one feel about themselves?

Speaker 5 I mean, that would be an interesting, like, kind of like how the studio has done this.

Speaker 5 deep dive and like how you make, you know, like how that industry is if there was some sort of show about the inner workings of the system.

Speaker 3 Big win for Ryan and Blake.

Speaker 3 And I think once this thing finally goes to court on the other side of the thing, I still think that you're going to, the witnesses that are included in the original claim, I think a lot more will come forward.

Speaker 3 And glad I was on that side in the things from the beginning.

Speaker 3 Robin, always fun and always a pleasure to have you. Thanks for coming on.
Where can people find you?

Speaker 10 It's so funny. When I started Girl Boss Town, I never thought that I would be professionally known as a girl boss.
It's like literally the most cringy thing ever, but you know what I'm owning it.

Speaker 10 So it's at Girl Boss Town on TikTok and Instagram, giving my pop culture commentary, make predictions. I also do creative consulting on the back end.

Speaker 1 Should we hire you? I feel like maybe we need you. Guys, I'm here.

Speaker 10 But I have so much fun whenever I come on here. You guys speak my language.
So thank you so much.

Speaker 1 So fun to pick your love island brain and pop culture brain.

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Speaker 3 Just a little anecdotal story. When Jim came here, he's promoting his new show that he's hosting on the Snake on Fox.
His wife, Taisie, came with. She's a big reality TV fan.

Speaker 3 And so we're like, do you want to sit on the couch and talk some reality TV with us? And she came and she sat and we had a great conversation.

Speaker 3 And somehow, someway, Taisy's father's name name got brought up. His name is Derek.
We were just talking names.

Speaker 1 About their kids. About their kids.

Speaker 3 And sadly, and

Speaker 3 I've talked with Tazy and asked if it was okay to share this story, but we found out after

Speaker 3 they left that Tazy's father, Derek, died of a heart attack while we were recording that show. And I only bring it up because it just reminds you just how short life is.

Speaker 3 Thoughts and prayers go to Tazy's family and her father. We love them and we love their family.
And just hug the ones that you love because you just, you never know. Jim Jeffries.

Speaker 3 Jim, welcome back.

Speaker 1 Thanks for having me.

Speaker 3 And you brought your lovely wife with you, Taisie.

Speaker 1 My wife is a big fan of all things that you talk about in this show. So she wasn't going to be on the air.
She said she just wanted to come and watch.

Speaker 1 Well, yeah.

Speaker 3 And then we were just like, well, sit on the couch.

Speaker 1 You said you want to sit on the couch. And she took it like that.

Speaker 1 She was like, oh, my God. Yes.
She was like, yes. And she was down.
See you.

Speaker 3 But to anyone who's passionate about what we're passionate about, we love to bring them on. And obviously, you've been on before recapping The Bachelor with us.

Speaker 3 Was it your wife who got you into The Bachelor family?

Speaker 1 When the wife got into The Bachelor, it's weird because I had a joke about The Bachelor, and I started saying to my wife, I started saying, Oh, my wife got me into the Bachelor.

Speaker 1 Neither of us watched it, but I had a joke because I'd watched one episode. Okay, and then and my wife was like, Why are you dragging me down with this trashy TV? How dare you make me blah blah blah.

Speaker 1 Then COVID happened, and we watched like every season. We found

Speaker 1 ironically, yeah, ironically, we all watched one episode.

Speaker 3 That's how I ended up going on the show.

Speaker 1 I was making fun of my buddy's wife who was watching it and i was like why are you watching the stupid show and she's like shut up i'm gonna sign you up and i was like ha ha ha ha ha and then it changed my life oh and now we're now we're upset no we've we've watched all the seasons sometimes if we have no tv to watch we will go on hulu and go what season haven't we seen it'll be like season six 2008 you know and we'll watch it in black and white no they're no they're better those episodes because no one wants to get followers no one like there's no podcast to be had or anything like that everyone's legitimately looking for love.

Speaker 1 It's weird. It's kind of creepy.

Speaker 3 Psychotic.

Speaker 3 Well, you are here because you are hosting a new reality TV show called The Snake on Fox, which premieres tonight at 9. It does.
Very excited about that.

Speaker 3 Obviously, we're going to talk to you about some other reality TV in general, but let's.

Speaker 1 I think, look, I was doing another game show in Australia and I got the phone call and they said, Fox wants you to host a game show in America that's going to film in Argentina in six days' time and i was finishing and i said look i don't finish here for eight days and then they went all right you can come out in eight days type of thing so i flew out to argentina i really just think that i got the job because the show's called the snake and this accent think of it yeah has there ever been another australian game show hosted in american tv history honestly i don't think americans can say the word snake i i had to go

Speaker 1 who's gonna be the snake this week who's gonna be the this this week and all that type of stuff right couldn't be an american and i think they thought that maybe i had a little bit of the the steve irwins about me that i could just pick him up and go i've got a snake but i uh i i i'm as scared of snakes as anyone else did was that like a letdown for them did they find that out later oh we don't

Speaker 1 there are physical snakes in the show occasionally they're not common it's not every episode with a snake the the idea of the show is that there's a snake medallion you want to you want to be the snake the snake isn't the bad person the snake changes each week and so you win competition to become the snake and then the snake has extra voting power and extra control.

Speaker 1 So it's a social game. So if you're the snake, all the other housemates start sucking up to you that week.
Oh. Because you have to be nice to the snake.

Speaker 1 If you're on the bad side of the snake, you're out of the show. So the snake is like a bit of false friendship.

Speaker 3 They wield all the power.

Speaker 1 They wield all the power. The snake wields all the power.
And I have to give people the medallion. I have to hold the medallion.

Speaker 1 I've got this medallion that I hold up and go, who wants this medallion? I really would take it very seriously.

Speaker 3 I've seen the promo.

Speaker 3 I haven't seen the first episode, but what really drew me is like the show seems to lean into like old school tropes of characters, like how Bachelor, when they had the cast, it was like the pilot, the engineer.

Speaker 1 You guys have a pastor? We have a pastor who's wearing the outfit. Yeah, wears the collar.
Wears the collar. We have a cop who's wearing like a bulletproof vest all the time.

Speaker 1 Like she comes out, like not when they're in the house, but when they're doing contestant games.

Speaker 1 We have an OnlyFans creator. She's just wearing nothing.

Speaker 1 So we have an OnlyFans creator. We have a cop.
We have a detective. I tell you, the detective, uh, look, look, I'm

Speaker 1 heterosexual fella, but uh, something for the mums, I tell you, handsome fella, could derive. I'm just chilling you out there.
Nice guy.

Speaker 1 I tell you what, I liked all the contestants in the end. To begin with, there's such a distance between being the host and the contestants where you don't really see them.

Speaker 1 They all hang out with each other. You see them at the challenges and the voting ceremonies and what we call it the saving ceremony in this show.

Speaker 1 But over the course of the weeks of the show, I actually got quite fond of all of them.

Speaker 5 So there wasn't any one that you were rooting for to win?

Speaker 1 Ah, yeah, there's people I wanted.

Speaker 1 Look, I had me favorites, but I wouldn't say it. I'm not my mother.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to tell you in front of your brothers.

Speaker 3 What did you think of the pastor?

Speaker 3 Because I saw that and I immediately, like, my spitey senses go up because I think like men, women of God, like they wield so much power because in their communities, people look to those people as therapists sometimes.

Speaker 3 they're like the closest connection between themselves and God, you know, and so I'm like a pastor who wants to be famous.

Speaker 1 Like, at first, I had the initial, and I said this to him: I said, said, I have a repulsion towards people wearing that outfit. I'm not, I'm an atheist, um,

Speaker 1 but I just don't like priests and stuff like that. I find it creepy.
And also, we all know it's going on in the Catholic Church and all that type of stuff. New Pope.

Speaker 1 So I have an initial like, uh, to the whole situation. And I said it to him.

Speaker 1 I said, I I said, mate, I said, I said, ordinarily, I don't really like people like you or I avoid people like you, but I think you're a really nice guy. He was a really sweet guy.

Speaker 1 And me and him connected on the same level. We're both dads.
He's got a two-year-old daughter. I've got a three-year-old son.
You know what I mean? So we sort of talked on that face level.

Speaker 1 Is your kid watching Bluey? You know what I mean? And then once we got to that level, I just chatted to him. He was a solid ass dude, man.
He's a good guy. Pastor Jacob, I vouch for Pastor Jacob.

Speaker 3 Pastor Jacob's solid. Pastor Jacob's a a solid.
How did he get along with the OnlyFans?

Speaker 1 There's a lot of bloopers. There's a lot of stuff.
A lot of blurs.

Speaker 1 It is weird because

Speaker 1 the show has an aspect of the big brotherness of people living in a house. You go into a room and there's, you know, you know from the bachelor.

Speaker 1 Like, must be 80 screens, 80 cameras that are all playing at the same time. I'm in Argentina.
The only TV is Spanish-speaking television and stuff like that. That became my TV each day.

Speaker 1 I'd wake up in the morning and I'd text one of the producers, what happened last night? Are they all getting along? Who's not getting along? Did they resolve that conflict? I got really

Speaker 1 into the gossip of all these people and how they were all getting along and all type of stuff.

Speaker 1 And, you know, there's a little bit of, not to ruin anything, but there's a bit of romance that goes on the show. There's a little bit of that.
There's a bit of romance in there.

Speaker 1 There's a bit of competitive. There's a bit of skullduggery.
There's a bit of underhandedness because it's a tagline for the show is it's a show about making friends and faking friends.

Speaker 1 You have to get along if you don't get along with everyone, you're not getting through.

Speaker 1 So, there were certain elements of the show that uh I didn't get to see, so I'm looking forward to seeing it myself.

Speaker 5 Tazi, are you gonna watch too?

Speaker 12 Or I will watch.

Speaker 12 I was just thinking that when he said that you have to pretend to like people, it's like our marriage, it's like our marriage, but also you wouldn't be good at that at all, and I wouldn't be good at that at all.

Speaker 1 I showed disdain very easily.

Speaker 1 I gotta hide it on my face.

Speaker 1 if there's drama i'll watch it no there'll be a bit of drama there's a bit of competition there's like uh there's there's like there's tough people who who turn out to be pussies in certain situations and there's people who you think are weak who turn out to be strong in other situations like those are sort of um challenges where maybe you have to eat something or there's some you know you have to do something gross that sort of fear factory type of thing you can tell a lot about people during those moments tazzy is there a show you'd like to see jim on as a contestant of reality?

Speaker 12 Oh, as a contestant, okay, I don't know much about contestant shows. It's more just, oh my God, I always say to him, I want him to be on the bachelor.
I'm like, just go on the bachelor.

Speaker 1 You have a free pass to kiss some ladies.

Speaker 12 I just want to watch you on it and see you like,

Speaker 1 I'm too old for the bachelor and too young for the bad. Go on a bachelor.
I'm too young for the golden.

Speaker 1 I think I go on the golden. They can make a middle ground.
What about Traders?

Speaker 3 You guys watch Traders.

Speaker 5 I'd love to be on Traders. I want to be on Trader.

Speaker 1 We're big Trader watchers, love Traders. We watch the British version and the Australian version and the American version.

Speaker 1 The British celebrity version coming out right now, because, you know, you have the reality stars in the American version.

Speaker 12 No, but the English one doesn't have celebrities.

Speaker 1 No, but there's an English celebrity one that's coming out that just announced the celebrities and they're massive British celebrities. These aren't like B-list.

Speaker 1 In Britain, these are A-list celebrities

Speaker 1 who are doing the British one.

Speaker 3 I think they're trying to elevate the American version.

Speaker 1 Well, they don't elevate it too much. I could possibly get into this one.
if they make it too big I can't get into it I need to just get in this one

Speaker 1 but they don't really have comedians and stuff and I don't know why because they always want to put like you know the Boston robs of this world the good game players and stuff in the British one they're having like Jonathan Ross who's the equivalent of David Letterman in in Britain he's the number one tonight show host he's doing Alan Carr and all these other different British celebrities who British people would

Speaker 1 big deals but big deal type of people but but I think we've told you this before we're friends with Lisa Lisa Vanderpump, right?

Speaker 1 I would like to do, and I met her through a podcast and we've become close friends. We go over the house to have Villarosa for dinner and she comes to my shows.

Speaker 1 She comes to my shows and just shows up and just watches the gigs.

Speaker 1 Her and Ken just show up.

Speaker 5 So would you want to do traders with her?

Speaker 1 I would like to do something with Lisa on TV. I would like to do, I always say that Lisa's the Martha Stewart to my Snoop Dogg.
Or maybe I'm the Snoop Dogg to I'm the Martha Stewart to her Snoop Dogg.

Speaker 1 But we're an unlikely pairing.

Speaker 5 Maybe she could put you in the revamp of Vanderpump.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 5 You could be like,

Speaker 3 you could be like the bartender who gives like sage advice.

Speaker 12 The Australian bartender. Or in England, all bartenders are Australian.

Speaker 10 That's not such a thing here, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. Well, no, it's not a thing here.
Yeah. Very racist of you to be.
Sorry, sorry.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I could do. I could...
I don't know. What would I do?

Speaker 5 Would that feel like kind of...

Speaker 1 I told you the story about Jackson, all that happened to me on Vanderpump Rules.

Speaker 3 Say it again.

Speaker 1 Okay, so this is before i met my lovely wife this is many years ago um i was in there was i was in the improv comedy club and i was drunk i was still drinking back then so i was drunk and um i was standing at the bar drunk and uh they had jax and someone else and two other people and one of the friends of theirs was doing stand-up for the first time and that was the episode that they were going to be watching stand-up type of thing, right?

Speaker 1 They were in the bar section of the improv and they were having a conversation.

Speaker 1 But every time they sort of you know had the conversation everyone in the bar had to be quiet because you know what i mean and so so all us comics were sort of staying at the bar like they were coming into our territory and i was drunk and belligerent about the whole thing right and so uh so i said i don't want to be on camera in the background because i could see the camera was on me and the guy was like don't worry about it you're not on camera i'm like I know what it looks like to be on camera.

Speaker 1 That camera is

Speaker 1 pointing right at me. I said, I don't want to be in this thing, right? So I could have moved out of the way.

Speaker 1 And they go you're not on camera i said okay great so i turned back to the bar and i dropped my pants so my ass was showing in the background of the shot right

Speaker 1 and i just had my ass hanging out i was just standing at the bar having a drink with my ass hanging out like this right

Speaker 1 and and then jax was like this can we get this guy out of here please can we get this guy out of here and i'm like oh dude no he's one to talk he's known for constantly showing his ass on television oh man did he kick you out no you can't i i'm the only person who gets me kicked out of comedy clubs yeah not like i'm a comedian you can't

Speaker 1 kick a comedian you can't kick a comedian out of the improv yeah right and so the whole production thing shut out we got into a big fight and they had they had to leave the improv the scene never happened

Speaker 1 they got kicked out because i went and then i had to apologize to the improv like that sorry for causing you trouble and i shouldn't have been an asshole and the thing i was so so i was in trouble but they backed me up which was very nice of them.

Speaker 1 But I was being a dickhead. Wow.
Have you seen Jack since? No, but I told Lisa that story and I think she found the footage. She had someone actually go through it.

Speaker 1 This is how me and Lisa became mates. I told her this story.

Speaker 3 That's how you are.

Speaker 1 And I don't think she was that fond of Jacks at the time. And I think so she was happy.
She thought I was cool.

Speaker 3 Look, she liked, you know, Lisa, she likes a bit of, she likes troublemakers.

Speaker 1 She's a troublemaker. She does like troublemakers.
She's a troublemaker. So me and her, me and her get a kick out of each other.

Speaker 3 Would you do special forces?

Speaker 1 Man, I watched you.

Speaker 1 I contacted you afterwards, right? Yeah, yeah. I was so impressed by you guys.
Thank you. I was so impressed by you on that show.
And the answer is no.

Speaker 1 No, I don't have the mental fortitude for that. I don't, I just don't, I'm not fit.
I'm not yet. Like, I looked at the people my age doing it, right? I'm a bit older than you, right? Now, who was it?

Speaker 1 The

Speaker 1 guy off Beverly Hills 92, Brian Austin, Gray. Yeah.
Right. And he was just like.

Speaker 1 First day he's like, I'm fucking out of here. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I think I'm too old. I think I'm too old to go through it.
Would you do it again in 10 years?

Speaker 3 I would like to think I, well, in 10 years, maybe I would try because I did it this time. One, my wife was like,

Speaker 3 I think it would be sexy.

Speaker 1 And I was like, okay. All right.
Would it be sexy if I did it or embarrassing?

Speaker 12 What, now or in 10 years?

Speaker 1 No, now I'm not doing it in 10 years. I'm dead in 10 years.

Speaker 12 I would find it hot. You do it.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 But I also,

Speaker 1 I hear

Speaker 3 found out Natalie was pregnant with our daughter and I used it as kind of like, do I still like, can I still do this shit?

Speaker 3 You know, I used to compete in athletics back in the day and I haven't done shit like that. So like in 10 years, I'll wonder again, like, what do I still got?

Speaker 3 Like, because it's, it's really not about physical. I mean, it is to a certain extent, but it's about like not quitting.

Speaker 1 I think I can do the not quittingness of it, but I don't think being dunked in water, you know,

Speaker 1 I would panic. There were things I'd panic in, yeah.
But I was so impressed. We watched the whole thing, we were a good show, yeah, it was a good show.

Speaker 1 And uh, I look, I don't know about who's the guy that had the affair on Van.

Speaker 1 I think he's an all right dude, and she sits there like that going, oh,

Speaker 12 no, I never, but but saying that, we watched him in Traders after that, right? Did you still think he was an all right dude in Traders?

Speaker 1 I just thought he was thick in Traders.

Speaker 1 I still think he's a good dude, he's but I think

Speaker 1 any possibility

Speaker 1 he's a weirdo, he's He's eccentric.

Speaker 3 We disagree on a lot of, like, you know, he has a moral compass. I have a different one.
But, like.

Speaker 1 He has a moral compass. I have none.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 his is very unique.

Speaker 3 You know, I think most people don't subscribe to his way of life, so to speak. You know what you're getting with him.
And he's not clever enough. to be that calculated.

Speaker 1 Right. And it's just like...
That's what I was saying.

Speaker 1 Maybe thick was a harsh term, right? What I meant was when he was on the show Traders, he was

Speaker 1 like, oh, I think it's that person. If he said it, you think it was that person, it was never that person.

Speaker 1 He was never on the right scent, not once. Yeah.
Yeah. So

Speaker 3 he's not the devil that he was.

Speaker 3 He made a terrible mistake. He did a bad thing.
You know, he had a hard time taking accountability. I've met worse people.

Speaker 1 And I will. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 3 You could do far worse than him, I think, as a friend.

Speaker 1 That's my take meeting him. All right.
We'll be friends. Yeah.

Speaker 1 What does thick mean? Dumb thick. They are thick, dumb.
Thick, dumb, dumb. A A little ditzy.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Thick as a brick.
Thick is a term.

Speaker 1 Thick as a brick is the term. Yeah.
You're friends of the valley.

Speaker 12 I am. I'm a little behind.

Speaker 1 That's okay.

Speaker 3 I want to, on a high level, we don't have to get into like play-by-play of the episodes.

Speaker 3 But speaking of like who I think you could do worse by, Jax, obviously, but like Jesse right now, Jesse, like to me, he seems like an emotional terrorist to his ex-wife, Michelle.

Speaker 12 Yeah, that's a real tricky one. And people on Watch What Happens Live, Andy was like, would you rather be divorcing Jax or Jesse?

Speaker 12 And everyone's like, Oh, I'd rather be divorcing Jesse, but he does seem like a tricky guy to be getting divorced to.

Speaker 3 Yeah, he wants to emotionally torture the mother of his child in a way that, like, Jax.

Speaker 8 So does Jax.

Speaker 5 Like, the texts he sends Brittany, like, he doesn't stop. That man is up.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I think they're both terrible options. It's like, would you rather have someone shit on your face or like rub it all over your body?

Speaker 1 Or your buddy. You could conjunct your artist.
I would rather.

Speaker 1 What are you talking about?

Speaker 1 He's like, easy answer.

Speaker 12 I would rather be divorcing Jesse. I think he would be an easier option.
But yeah, I think he still loves her. And it's all because he's still in love with her, don't you think?

Speaker 8 Or you think that's her?

Speaker 5 Like, his ego is so shot that she moved on so fast.

Speaker 3 It just romanticizes him away. I don't want to give him that.

Speaker 1 Okay, we won't do that. We won't do that.

Speaker 1 But I think...

Speaker 12 Or his ego is just really, really hurt that she left him and therefore he's making her.

Speaker 3 I think Michelle would say, if if he loved me so much, why did he treat me so shitty while we were married and like never gave me attention or like kind of like acted as if like I was invisible, you know, and now that she doesn't want to be with him, yeah, now, yeah, now he loves her.

Speaker 12 Okay, yeah, so you're right. It's not love, it's just he still wants her, it wants to be on his terms

Speaker 12 if they end it or not.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's got to be brutal, though.

Speaker 3 I'd have been co-parenting with a young, with a young child,

Speaker 3 you know, and

Speaker 12 starting to date other people yeah oh my god and then you have to know your child's around someone else and they both seem to be we do that we do that in our lives like yeah but we got lucky we have like your

Speaker 3 the mother of your first child is what a wonderful human being right we got really lucky and well that's the thing they seem to be using their people they're dating as a way to piss off yeah the other person like it's like everyone deserves to move on and and find love again but it's it gives it's like an icky icky feeling watching them.

Speaker 3 It's like you wouldn't wish that on your worst enemy.

Speaker 5 No, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 3 You know, that type of divorce with a young child. It's tough.

Speaker 12 And same with Jax and Brittany.

Speaker 5 You wouldn't wish that divorce on any of the stuff that Jax is able to just say is the most mind-boggling thing. I mean, when they were like, Jax, you've called her fat, you've called her this.

Speaker 5 He's like, listen, what do you mean, fat? I'm attracted to that type of body type.

Speaker 1 It's like, what?

Speaker 5 It's just like, that type of body type. Like, so clearly it's something that, like,

Speaker 10 okay.

Speaker 1 He's just, he's so toxic.

Speaker 3 Do you guys get into Love Island at all?

Speaker 12 Not really.

Speaker 1 Even with the UK, you know, because it's starting in the UK.

Speaker 12 I know. So an English version from forever ago, which Molly May was on, I watched and I was so into, but since then, I haven't.

Speaker 1 My 83-year-old father watches the Australian Love Island or the American one or something. He watches one of them.
We were with him for Christmas. And he goes, oh, no, no, no, leave that show on.

Speaker 1 Now, it's because my dad can't access the internet. So this is the closest he gets to porn.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 And it is very close to porn. It is very close to porn.

Speaker 1 He's found this show with girls in bikinis, right? And he's all over it. He's in his 80s.
And he goes, oh, no, that one's all right. She's all right.
But this one gives this one the ick.

Speaker 1 Okay. And I'm like, someone's learnt some words.

Speaker 5 It's also on like every single night. So he constantly has something to watch.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I bet he loves it.
Yeah, there's like wet, slow motion, slip and slide scenes and like flap dances.

Speaker 1 Dirty old man TV all day. All day.

Speaker 5 That's funny. Did he give you like the breakdown, like his favorites?

Speaker 1 His well, no, he literally was like, I just leave this one on. Oh, that one's this one good.
This one's a bad person. This one's a good person.
Oh, she's all right.

Speaker 1 They give her a hard time for no reason. There was always one that he fancied that they give a hard time for no reason.

Speaker 1 I don't know if it was, I think it was an Australian version.

Speaker 3 I don't know. Is there any Australian version?

Speaker 1 I think it was. There is an Australian version.
Yeah. Yeah.
Australia always trots out something.

Speaker 1 I would like to be the host of the Australian Bachelor because I've always thought The Bachelor is the greatest. Okay, there's certain game show hosting jobs.

Speaker 1 So the 1% Club, you have to read questions and that type of stuff.

Speaker 1 And I was, I was telling you a fair that I once cost the show $100,000 because I just read a question badly and I had to read it again and it gave them an extra 10 seconds, which actually made them win the money.

Speaker 1 Right. Did you get it?

Speaker 3 Like, did you get a lecture for that?

Speaker 1 Or did you just, I just was, you know, when you stuff up at work and say you're really helpful? You just walk around like this. Anyone need a coffee? I'm going to go.
You're so nice.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're so nice to everybody.

Speaker 1 You got a new haircut? You know,

Speaker 3 I mean, that's my nightmare because I'm dyslexic too. And like, I get hosting opportunities.
And every time I have to read a teleprompter, I'm always like, guys, just like a heads up.

Speaker 1 I'm this won't go.

Speaker 1 It does get better. Doing the Jim Jeffrey show back in the day was like just reading a teleprompter for 30 minutes, right?

Speaker 1 And I would rehearse it through the week and then I'd sit at home the night before and I'd actually go through it like a script so that I actually could perform it like stand-up, right?

Speaker 1 But doing the game show, I can do the chatting thing, doing the audience thing, and then when I have to read the questions, so I always turn around and the questions on the 1% club are always things like,

Speaker 1 if Jane's on a train and it's traveling at four miles an hour and it's four o'clock in the afternoon and da-da-da-da-da, which country is she in?

Speaker 1 Well, she's still in Sydney because these other things are inconsequential, Jane, you know, this type of thing, right?

Speaker 1 So, but sometimes you turn around, this is my favorite, you turn around to read the question. Okay, the next question is,

Speaker 1 what number is next in this sequence?

Speaker 1 I'm over the moon. And that question comes up once an episode.
I'm like, oh, have a break. You have 30 seconds dancing.
Your time starts.

Speaker 1 And then when people get the questions wrong, I have to tell them they're stupid after I've read it wrong in front of them.

Speaker 1 So, so that's a harder job. I could never do a show with like a speed round.
You have 30 seconds on the clock, your questions start now. That's over.
I'll just be like this: pass,

Speaker 1 pass.

Speaker 1 So, so, deal or no deal, that's a winner. One question, one question, deal or no deal, and just chatting.
There's no teleprompter, deal or no deal. That's a killer game to host, right?

Speaker 1 Is it cake?

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I could host is it cake.

Speaker 5 There's a lot of thinking in Is It Cake.

Speaker 1 So I've got, is it cake, deal or no deal? But the bachelor, having to walk out and just go,

Speaker 1 ladies,

Speaker 1 there's one more roast. And then you just sort of duck away.
Just kind of let them know how to count. Yeah, you just,

Speaker 1 yep.

Speaker 5 I know you all see it.

Speaker 1 That's the end. But doing the snake was weird because you did challenges and they were the only bits where I sort of wasn't sort of

Speaker 1 doing sort of the company line speech where it's like, you have to hit these marks at this spot. During the challenges, you just commentate like you're watching sport.
You know,

Speaker 1 someone's swimming through fish guts and you're like this. All right, James in the front.
Oh, Jordan's coming up from behind. It's like a horse race.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 fantastic.

Speaker 3 that's that's just a bit of fun doing that speaking of the bachelor they they they put uh paradise on pause last season and bachelor in paradise is is premiering i think early july something like that why did they put it on pause what happened well they've had some drama going on internally i think and i think also like it just wasn't successful and i think they wanted to revamp it they're shooting it in costa rica where they've normally shot it in mexico i think they're bringing some of the golden people down so i think it's going to be different and i think they're going to maybe you know What's the health care like in Costa Rico for the golden bachelors?

Speaker 1 That's a great question. We're going to

Speaker 1 need good insurance for that. That's a great question.
We filmed the snake in Argentina. And we were in a place called Iguazu.
And Iguazu is like,

Speaker 1 there's a place called the Iguazu Falls. And it's where Paraguay, Brazil, and Argentina meet.
And

Speaker 1 there's the Piranha River. And this is the biggest drug smuggling river on earth because it's international water.

Speaker 1 And those three countries can meet together for the cocaine and get it out into open waters. And so, like, we were just like, the locals are like, yeah, that's a that's a drug boat there.

Speaker 1 And there was one time I was just watching the river, there was a bloke just carrying drugs down to the boat.

Speaker 1 So I bought a big bag, and this is out now. You brought it up.

Speaker 1 But it's, yeah, it's, it's, uh, it was pretty cool. But the waterfalls there, like, leave Niagara Falls to shame.
They're beautiful, stunning.

Speaker 1 And the beginning of the show, we start at the waterfalls. Everyone's coming in in crates and stuff.
It's all very fun. It's exciting stuff.

Speaker 3 Wow.

Speaker 3 So visually beautiful as well.

Speaker 1 It's visually beautiful.

Speaker 1 The set we had was unbelievable. It felt like Indiana Jones or something like that.
Like it wasn't a set. They'd built like structures in the jungle for the challenges and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 It was pretty cool. But

Speaker 1 if I ever eat an epanada again, it'll be too soon.

Speaker 1 I've had too many. I had so many epanadas.
That's the only thing I could eat. This whole idea of Argentinian cuisine, everyone's like, oh, Argentina.
Oh, the food, the food.

Speaker 1 It's it's just a sauce chimichurri that's all they've got they go have you tried the steak yes in every country in the world cook steak you're not doing anything exciting so you've slice it up and it's on a wooden board you put some chimichurri on the side it's just a sauce that's carrying all the weight of their cuisine but the epanadas are all right but you can't have too many do you ever like when he's doing bits i've been obviously to gem stand-up it's incredibly funny sometimes he tells a colorful joke that might make some people cringe.

Speaker 1 About her? He's even put you in the sand up.

Speaker 12 He says brutal things about her.

Speaker 1 How does that work?

Speaker 3 Does he run these bayous?

Speaker 1 No, he doesn't.

Speaker 1 In my news special, I ask everyone in America if they see her walking down the street to yell at racist homophobe.

Speaker 12 And we were in Vegas. We were in Vegas last week, last weekend, and he did that bit.
So we were walking through the casino and I had a bunch of people shouting, racist homophobe.

Speaker 5 I was like, people are going to think I'm legit a racist well they they were pointing at us of course they assume it's me and not the brown woman come yeah they're not gonna think so they're not gonna think that you're the racist when he's doing his stand-up like practicing you don't comment on any of the material being like honestly that one's not that funny you should no good god no and also he runs jokes by me sometimes and i don't laugh and he's like you don't get it yeah

Speaker 1 she can't see stand-up uh if i just tell her a bit yeah a lot of people can't a lot of people can't. We normally ring up other comics.
But when it's on stage, obviously, yes. Right.

Speaker 1 When you go, oh, this is a bit, because it's not a joke per se, it's a bit. And so I run them past her, but no.

Speaker 1 But also, also, look, when I was younger and single, my stand-up was about one-night stands and taking drugs and revelry, right? And now I'm married with kids. The comedy has to come from somewhere.

Speaker 1 So we all have to earn a living here.

Speaker 1 So I have to, that's why everyone's like, my wife jokes or my mother-in-law jokes because where else do the jokes come from that's true so you've got to go after him i'm not offended at all it doesn't bother me like he says really brutal stuff and

Speaker 1 and we're still here and we're still here it was true i did a routine in my last special about when when she was pregnant and she said uh she actually know that did bother me a little bit the thing

Speaker 12 i think i saw that spell about me looking like et when i was pregnant and not wanting to me i'm allowed to say

Speaker 1 what joke are you talking about? I was talking about the joke when you were pregnant and you were at the baby shower, and you said to your friends that you didn't want to have a white baby.

Speaker 1 You said, Yes. I hope the baby's not white.
I hope it's a brown baby.

Speaker 12 But he left out the reason. He left out the reason.
I wanted my baby to be on the browner side because we live in LA where there is a lot of sun and I want some sun.

Speaker 1 I care about, yes,

Speaker 1 I don't want to have to worry about that.

Speaker 12 Yeah, because Jim gets burns like a

Speaker 12 whatever the saying is for someone that burns quickly.

Speaker 1 I'm a pale guy. I'm a pale guy.

Speaker 1 So that was the reasoning behind that.

Speaker 5 Did your baby come out white or brown?

Speaker 1 White. He's pretty white.
White is Jim.

Speaker 1 He came out so white.

Speaker 12 And I wanted to give him an Indian first name and Jim was like, no.

Speaker 1 Because. You don't have an Indian first name.
Why all of a sudden?

Speaker 12 I just wanted him to have an Indian first name, but he's super white, so it would have been white.

Speaker 1 What name did you want to give him? Rajendra. Razendra.
I can't say that.

Speaker 12 It's my dad's middle name.

Speaker 1 Then your dad should have had it as a first fucking name.

Speaker 1 It can't just be Brick. Her father's first name is Derek.
True. Okay.
Right. And his middle name's Rajendra.
Right.

Speaker 1 And so she wanted to call our kid Rajendra. I went, all right, let's see.
Raj.

Speaker 12 Maybe Raj would have been so.

Speaker 1 What did you go with?

Speaker 12 Charlie.

Speaker 8 Very white.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Charlie White was his middle name.

Speaker 3 When you say Charlie, it's very charming.

Speaker 12 My last name, Dan Raj, my real last name, and then his real last name, Nugent.

Speaker 1 Because my real last name is Nugent. I use my middle name as a stage name.
And so it got confusing.

Speaker 1 So I didn't know what to name my kids, whether to give them my real name, because none of the my wife didn't take my name. So

Speaker 1 all of us would have different names. So my children have my stage name.
I mean, is that arrogant? I think that's pretty.

Speaker 3 If I wasn't,

Speaker 3 well, I got famous from going on The Bachelor, and then so my last name got out. But if I knew I could have a stage name, I definitely wouldn't, I would have changed it for sure.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Your last name wouldn't be Files?

Speaker 3 No, it wouldn't be Vial.

Speaker 1 Vile's a good name, though.

Speaker 3 You know, it's fine. You know, sometimes it's vile, but like a lot of time when I'm like, that's so vile.
And it's, you know, it's a triggering for me.

Speaker 5 So your kids didn't get Nugent.

Speaker 1 They got Jeffreys. They got Jeffries, yeah.
Honestly.

Speaker 8 I'm cool enough. Yeah, I feel like

Speaker 5 you're so famous that like if they weren't Nugent, they would be like, your dad's not Jim Jeffries. Your last name's Nugent, you know? They would be like made fun of.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and also, okay, so my real name is Jeffrey James Nugent, and I changed it to Jeffrey James for about three gigs, and then I changed it to Jim Jeffries, right?

Speaker 1 And the first time I ever went on, Jeffrey with a G, right? The first time I ever went on stage, the guy went, welcome to the stage,

Speaker 1 Godfrey Nuggant. Oh, no.
The N-U-G-E-N-T. Godfrey Nuggant.
There's not even a D in my name. Like, where did you get Godfrey? Godfrey Nugant.
And I thought, Godfrey Nugget's not a good stage name.

Speaker 1 It's not a good stage name. It's not easy to say Godfrey Nugant.

Speaker 3 So you have a three-year-old son. We have a 15-month-old daughter.
What has been your favorite age, like period? Because our daughter's really getting into like, she's starting to like say words.

Speaker 3 She's walking. It's really fun.

Speaker 1 But like, you had a favorite stage. I also had a 12-year-old.
So I can tell you all the way up to 12 what the favorite stage is. I truly believe the best age with kids is three to five.

Speaker 1 And you can have a conversation with them. It doesn't matter if they're good at school yet.
It doesn't matter because those stresses come. Yeah.
Right.

Speaker 1 Also, it doesn't matter how they're doing socially because at three, you decide they're friends. We're going over to the house and Patty will be there.

Speaker 1 Yeah. You know what I mean? Like you make the play dates with your friends and their kids, right? Or they go to preschool and they meet a couple of kids or whatever.

Speaker 1 So socially, you don't have to worry about them. Education-wise, you don't have to worry about them.

Speaker 1 They're still discovering things like our kid is going to Disneyland for his fourth birthday and it's miles away. He won't shut up about it, right?

Speaker 1 And that little bit of, those little bits of magic don't happen really after six. Right.

Speaker 1 And also,

Speaker 1 and we all know, you know, like Santa, Santa, Santa's the greatest thing in the world, man. Santa, and, and my kids are really into Santa.
And

Speaker 1 I love it. Both of them? Well, yeah.
Yeah. Of course.
We all believe in Santa, man. Santa is important.
Santa's important.

Speaker 5 He is. I just wondered if the, because this has happened in my family where like the older siblings think it's cool to like ruin everything for the younger siblings.
Oh no,

Speaker 12 our oldest is like

Speaker 12 so cute with three-year-old and like wants to keep that magic alive. He actually did Elf on the Shelf for him last year.

Speaker 1 Elf on the Shelf is realist. What are you doing?

Speaker 12 What are you doing? Elf on the Shelf is very real.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 I love it. If he's listening, Elf on the Shelf is the best.
newest thing to come out in the last 20 years, I reckon.

Speaker 5 What's your Elf's name?

Speaker 1 I don't know. He's just Elf on the Shelf.
Named him? No, he sneaks into the house. I don't know.
I didn't know you were supposed to name him. Oh, my gosh.

Speaker 5 Charlie's supposed to name him.

Speaker 1 Oh, no. He hides in different places.

Speaker 10 And then it's like, where's

Speaker 5 Bobby? Where did Bobby come today?

Speaker 1 It gets all excited. We'll call him Azendra or whatever.

Speaker 1 He's a Godfrey Nugent.

Speaker 1 Godfrey Nugent. Nuggets.
Elfre Rush.

Speaker 3 How did you guys meet?

Speaker 1 Roy. Roya.

Speaker 1 We both looked at each other.

Speaker 1 We didn't look at each other because it's so uncool.

Speaker 3 She slid into my DMs. And at first, I don't know what you used to say, but

Speaker 3 I had to be like, just tell people you slid into my DMs. It's fine.

Speaker 1 It's, you know,

Speaker 1 it sounds so fucking...

Speaker 1 Well, it's nice. It's nice.

Speaker 1 You met each other.

Speaker 1 You were obviously attracted to him, so you wrote to him.

Speaker 1 We went on a date, and we actually just lived like 500 meters away from each other. And I think she wouldn't have gone on more dates with me if I wasn't so accessible.
Because, you know, LA traffic.

Speaker 1 you know, you don't want to drive across town for a shag, right?

Speaker 1 Because I was local. She was like, I'll give him another go.
And, and actually, I was very impressed because she hardly drinks. And I don't drink at all anymore.
It's coming up to

Speaker 1 four and a half years now without a drink. And I just finished an episode of the Jim Jeffery show.
It was on a Tuesday. And I always, that was always my Friday, right?

Speaker 1 So I'd always get drunk after the show, show do a podcast get drunk and then I went out with a few of the crew members now I had written to her and text and we'd organize the date and then she hadn't written to me forever and I like the old man that I am I always like to have a phone chat before the date oh you like a little check-in I like to see if you've got some banter if you can chat

Speaker 1 if it's if it's if it's all prepared texts that you've thought about whether I can actually vibe with you and then if I can't I might cancel the date You know what I mean? All of a sudden you're sick.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm busy or whatever.

Speaker 1 Actually, anyway, but her being a millennial.

Speaker 12 No, this is not true. This is not true.

Speaker 1 Okay, she's Generation X. She just

Speaker 12 okay, stop. No,

Speaker 12 this is not true. He's going to say I ghosted his calls and didn't answer because didn't answer.
No, where I lived in the hill. She had no service.

Speaker 12 The service, so text came through, but I didn't get phone calls through. And I didn't know that.
You still get a missed call.

Speaker 1 You could have called me. No, I really didn't.

Speaker 3 I really didn't. Did you try to FaceTime audio her?

Speaker 1 tried to ring her about four times it rang out she didn't answer i assume the date wasn't happening i was like okay i know i've overplayed me hand here i've rang too many times yeah i've

Speaker 1 yeah yeah four times

Speaker 1 yeah but but we were chatting and texting and stuff and nothing was happening and then so i got drunk i was out with all the guys from the show right a group of blokes right and um and she's like hey uh we're still on for this date and i'm like i've been calling you haven't been responding so i assume that the date wasn't happening.

Speaker 1 And then she's like, no, I've done my hair and blah, blah, blah. And I went, yeah, I've done my makeup.

Speaker 8 I've shaved my legs.

Speaker 12 I'm going.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I've done my makeup and I've shaved my legs, right? And I said,

Speaker 1 well, I'm drunk.

Speaker 1 I just said, I'm drunk, right? I'm drunk right now. Honestly.
I've been drinking since the middle of the day and I'm drunk. Right.

Speaker 1 And then she went, all right, I'll take a couple of shots of tequila to catch up and I'll meet you. And we met at the den on sunset.
Oh, wow. Right.
Where I was drinking with people.

Speaker 1 And I was like, all right. And then we had a little snog at the bar, like 30 minutes into the date.
So, and it all worked out.

Speaker 1 Yeah, a little snog. Yeah.
You don't call it a snog? No. That's a British.
Australia has a term for kissing

Speaker 1 that's really having a pash. Oh, love that.
Yeah. We were having a pash.
Pash. Obviously short for passionate.
Of course.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 I like rash. And you get pash rash from the beard.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 I even think I heard the term pash in bluey recently. Wasn't there an episode? Maybe.
Okay, I don't know. Smoochie kiss, they say in blue.
Yeah, I like smoocher.

Speaker 1 The last gig we all saw each other at was the Bob Sagett Benefit.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah, the Bob Sagart Benefit.
That was a cool gig, man. That was cool.
Like, like John Mayer was playing. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And everyone, like, like Jeff Ross, who I adore, was up there, and he spoke so tenderly of Bob.

Speaker 1 And Kelly Bobbs' ex was.

Speaker 3 I met her on Special Forces. That's how I met her.
Oh, right.

Speaker 1 Right. Yeah.
And she's lovely. Lovely.
She's lovely. And it's like,

Speaker 1 you know, it's funny. I never met, I was friends with Bob for years.
Bob had,

Speaker 1 even during COVID, had come over to my house a couple of times. And I knew he had a wife.

Speaker 1 And we had a dinner plan on the books when Bob died. And so that was like we were having dinner in a couple of weeks with him and his wife when Bob died.
Oh, that's true.

Speaker 1 And so that was the first thing. We were meant to be having dinner.
And she didn't know, but I was like, we did. I can find the text

Speaker 1 but I miss Bob Bob was a Bob was a very sweet man very kind

Speaker 1 lovely man funny as all balls I mean there's so

Speaker 3 my biggest takeaway from the knowing a lot of people who knew him I never got a I met him once briefly but just in passing but I hope I don't think I'll ever be this case because I think plenty of people have negative things to say about me, but no one says anything bad about Bob.

Speaker 5 All I i can say

Speaker 1 no he was he was always on sometimes that irritates people he he was always funny and some people don't like that i like that i like people who are always funny i mean if you're if you're actually funny yeah yeah it's only annoying when you're not

Speaker 1 i had i had a sitcom in fx years ago and he was in the episode and kerry fisher was in the episode and i did a scene with kerry fisher and bob saggett which no one's going to do that again no one

Speaker 1 no it's a big deal

Speaker 1 i i because we're star wars people yeah the whole It was before the Me Too movement. And you can check this episode out, but

Speaker 1 it was from a story. I had an executive in the industry many years ago slightly me to like do the Me Too movement to me.

Speaker 1 Yeah, sort of,

Speaker 1 I got passed on, not passed on, I got past that. She passed.

Speaker 1 She made a pass at me. That's what I'm going for.

Speaker 1 I've forgotten how to talk. Anyway, she made a pass at me.
And so I wrote an episode about this whole thing. But Kerry Fisher in this episode looks at me and says, will you lick my pussy? Right.

Speaker 1 And she says it four or five times in the episode. And it's for me to get a TV deal, my character to get a TV deal.
And I do it in the scene. I get under the table.

Speaker 1 And I was sitting under the table thinking to myself, when I was a kid, Princess Leia. Watching Princess Leia in that gold bikini.

Speaker 1 What I would have done for this moment. Look at you now.

Speaker 1 Wow. And she was the coolest, funniest person.
I was telling a story about, I was on Jimmy Kimmel and I told a story about my mother getting deep vein thrombosis, right?

Speaker 1 My mother got deep vein thrombosis on a luxury cruise, right? Where you meant to get it on economy seat on a flight. Right.
Right.

Speaker 1 So I go on Jimmy Kimmel and I say, my mother got it on a luxury cruise. Most people get it sitting in economy, right?

Speaker 1 I'm on set. I get a phone call from my mother.
You have to go back on the Jimmy Kimmel show and tell the American public that you're a liar.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, what? She goes, I didn't get it on the cruise. I got diagnosed on the cruise.
I actually got it at home.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 So my mum's yelling and screaming at me on the phone. I'm in hair and makeup and Kerry Fisher's sitting there, right? And I turn on the speakerphone so Kerry Fisher can hear.

Speaker 1 And then I hang up and then Kerry Fisher turns to me and goes, your mother and my mother are exactly the same person.

Speaker 3 And I'm like, I'll stop you right there, Kerry.

Speaker 1 Your mother's Debbie Reynolds, who was in, you know, singing in the rain. Yeah.
Right?

Speaker 1 Who was a megastar. My mum's a morbidly obese woman in Sydney who's got deep Dane thrombosis.

Speaker 1 They're vastly different women.

Speaker 5 She's got DBT.

Speaker 1 But she was really, I've just started talking about myself. Let's go back to Jack's.

Speaker 5 Wait, quickly, what is y'all's age gap?

Speaker 12 13 and a half.

Speaker 1 18.

Speaker 1 You're 18 years apart? Oh, she doesn't look that much older than you, man. 90s.

Speaker 1 99.

Speaker 12 We have 90s music in common.

Speaker 12 That's something we bond over.

Speaker 1 What are you talking about?

Speaker 10 In the car, we listen to our 90s.

Speaker 1 No, that's the only music that we can listen to the same.

Speaker 12 That's the only music where we are both fans.

Speaker 1 Yeah, otherwise, I turn on the, get in the Tesla and Sabrina Carpenter's on all the bloody time.

Speaker 3 We've gotten lucky in terms of like things we, like, that are on now, we, we both enjoy.

Speaker 3 Like, we watch the same shows and the same stuff, and there's more that we have in common that we enjoy than don't.

Speaker 3 But, yeah, there's just like I always want to show her movies from the 90s or the 80s, and I make her watch it.

Speaker 1 Oh, she I got to show her Back to the Future.

Speaker 3 Have you seen Back to the Future?

Speaker 5 I'm sure it was on a list.

Speaker 3 That was one of my favorite movies of all time.

Speaker 1 It's the greatest movie that's ever been made, it's the greatest movie on it.

Speaker 3 There's the one scene that's on in every movie, and it's

Speaker 5 all one movie in a way, in a way, yeah.

Speaker 1 It's fantastic. Oh, because it's all continued.

Speaker 1 I tell you what, I was at, I bought a ticket to have a photo with Christopher Lloyd and Michael J. Fox at Comic-Con with my son.
That's right, right? And so we lined up. You had to line up forever.

Speaker 1 And all the nerds that were dressed like Marty McFly waiting to have the photo. Right now, so we're talking about a man in his 80s and a man who's very sick with Parkinson's, right?

Speaker 1 These are the two people. And so as you get closer to the line, they're like this.
Please don't touch them.

Speaker 1 Please leave them alone. Because, you know, like if you give them COVID, they're both done.
You know what I mean? Like, just come, just, just be chill. Just go in there.

Speaker 5 Just keep your hands in your pockets.

Speaker 1 And my son was, and everyone else was like,

Speaker 1 in scene four of the thing, with a thing, you know, all very comic ony like that, right? And me and Hank walked in. And then, Hank, don't touch him.

Speaker 1 Just be cool, smile, say thank you, and hello, right? And Hank comes in and goes, hello, and then stands off to the side.

Speaker 1 And then Michael J. Fox looked at him and he goes, and he actually put his arm around him and pulled him in.
Oh, cool. Right.
And put him in. And it's the one photo, he's got his arm around my son.

Speaker 1 And that was pretty cool. That's pretty cool.
And then we had a photo with like Hayden Christensen and Darth Vader. Yeah, Darth Vader, right? And Ewan McGregor.
That was the other photo we did.

Speaker 1 And I walked in and I tried to dress like myself as much as possible. Like I was wearing an outfit from a special because I wanted one of those two to recognize me.
Right.

Speaker 1 So that my son would be impressed. Yeah.
And I walked in and Hayden Christian went, Jim Jeffries. And then Ewan McGregor went, your dad's a legend.
Oh,

Speaker 1 made my fucking life.

Speaker 1 Made my life. That was the best day ever.
That was the most proud my son has ever been of me. Oh, that's so good.

Speaker 1 That's pretty cool.

Speaker 5 I wonder what Rivers will be of us.

Speaker 3 I hope she never sees The Bachelor.

Speaker 1 Well, she's going to watch The Bachelor. Yeah, that'd be great.
Look, man, at least The Bachelor is just you snogging different chicks, right? Sure. Right? Yeah.

Speaker 1 My stand-up is me talking about cocaine, right? And skeletons in my closet.

Speaker 3 Yeah, but you can be like, I'm a comic, and then she's going to be like, is it real? And I'm going to be like,

Speaker 1 a lot of the specials, I'm actually on cocaine as well.

Speaker 1 You're actually doing it on stage in front of everyone.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, I always worry about that. Like when my kids, my kid just had someone say to him recently, one of the kids at school went, your dad's not funny.
You know, that type of thing.

Speaker 1 And then they're going to start watching the clips.

Speaker 1 And then there's jokes that I have made about my child

Speaker 1 in the clips. It's not easy being a comics family member.

Speaker 5 It's not easy. What advice have you given him around that? Like, don't listen to it.
Don't, or are you kind of like, who gives a fuck?

Speaker 1 I'm just like, man, roll with the punches. People are going to try to find your weak spot in life.
That's just what's going to happen. If it's not this, it's going to be something else.

Speaker 1 Let them tease me. Better than them teasing you.
Yeah. You know what I mean? I don't care.
Like, what's the worst thing that you're going to get is like, oh, my dad was really handsome.

Speaker 1 He was the bachelor.

Speaker 1 Oh, that must really hurt to my core. My dad was the most desirable man in America for about three months.

Speaker 1 Fair enough. Fair enough.
Then he went on special forces and he was held underwater and survived. What a loser.

Speaker 1 I'd be more worried about the cowboy boots.

Speaker 1 Oh, well, that's a great place to end it.

Speaker 3 The snake premieres tonight on Fox. You can check it out on Hulu.
If you're not one of those people who is watching in real time, but it's a great show. Check it out.
Lots of fun.

Speaker 3 Hosted by yours, truly, Jim Jeffries. We got the trailer of the snake that we're going to play for the audience.
Again, a reminder: it is out tonight, tonight on Fox at nine o'clock.

Speaker 3 If you don't happen to catch it tonight, it does air on Hulu the next day, so check it out either on Fox or on Hulu. Here is the trailer of the snake.

Speaker 1 This is social survival of the fitting. It's not something I take lightly.

Speaker 5 I deserve an Oscar for that performance.

Speaker 1 The snake is the masterclass in watching people making friends and faking friends.

Speaker 5 I will pick you over anywhere else.

Speaker 3 And there's a lot of bluffing in this game.

Speaker 14 Have I been told I could be manipulative? I am Italian and Puerto Rican, honey.

Speaker 3 You two the man.

Speaker 1 These contestants know how to get what they want and stereotypes of their jobs play into it.

Speaker 5 As a bounty hunter, you do have to be two steps ahead.

Speaker 1 I'm a pro ponka player.

Speaker 3 I do this for a living.

Speaker 1 How do you think being an OnlyFans creator will help you in the game?

Speaker 10 You'll have to subscribe and find out.

Speaker 1 Not me.

Speaker 1 Each week they will compete in challenges to become the snake, the most powerful player in the game. The snake will choose one player to save, setting off a chain reaction

Speaker 1 until there are two left, leaving the snake with the ultimate decision.

Speaker 3 She filled me a savour pass.

Speaker 1 Those lines in my face!

Speaker 1 Every act you do in the game has a consequence. Every single person in this entire house lied to me.
You have to screw people over. It's just like life.

Speaker 5 I'm flirting. I'm using Devontae.

Speaker 1 If you're not the snake next week, watch your back.

Speaker 1 Someone will remember.

Speaker 5 Shut your mouth.

Speaker 1 Try to be kind. Try to backstab people.

Speaker 3 They feel pretty betrayed.

Speaker 1 At the end of the day, it is a game. The games have definitely begun.
Somebody's about to get bit. Friendships will be broken up.

Speaker 10 No one's telling me the truth.

Speaker 3 You can never underestimate anybody.

Speaker 1 I'm hooked. I'm out.

Speaker 1 Who doesn't want to be involved in that show?

Speaker 5 You look great.

Speaker 1 How'd you prepare for that?

Speaker 5 You get some like a spray tan, maybe like a little.

Speaker 1 As I said, I was in Australia. I just showed up.
No script, no nothing. Straight in.
Straight in on the stage.

Speaker 1 But, oh, well, now I can actually, now that I can see the trailer, I could have said so much more. Yeah, so it's a saving ceremony.

Speaker 1 So one person saves another person, saves another person, saves another person. So it isn't an actual full vote.
Oh. So other shows.
Yeah. You know what I mean? So it snakes down the vote.

Speaker 1 It's a very unique show in that respect.

Speaker 3 So the snake is a playout like a snake.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 So like I save Nick, Nick can save

Speaker 1 Tazy can save me, but you've got to have a, you've got to have a friend in the house. You really got to have two friends.
If you don't have two friends, no one's going to save you. Right.

Speaker 1 And so, and so, and people can manipulate, like, if you save Nick,

Speaker 1 I'll let Tazy save you. A lot of alliance stuff.
Sure. You know what I mean? But yeah, there was a lot of me just in the middle of a field throwing bugs on people.

Speaker 1 And that at the beginning, when she says, when I was shocked when I just watched it, when she went, I deserve an Oscar for that performance. I didn't know she wasn't crying.

Speaker 1 I just found that out there when I was watching the trailer. I remember standing next to her going, oh, the poor girl's having a terrible time here.
I was comforting her.

Speaker 1 You got them.

Speaker 5 She got you too?

Speaker 1 After it was over, I was like, you'll be all right. Her name is Catherine, which is Catherine, if you say it with a New Zealand accent.

Speaker 1 Catherine.

Speaker 1 Catherine. All right.

Speaker 3 Well, it looks great. Check it out.
It's on tonight or on Hulu tomorrow. Jim, so much fun.
Please come back.

Speaker 1 I feel like I took over the bloody podcast and we didn't talk on what we meant to talk about. We talked about the snake.
All right. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I had a great time.

Speaker 1 You can have me on here whenever you want. I love being on this show.

Speaker 3 We love to have you on. Tazeyve, thanks for coming.
Thank you for having me. Every time you come, every time Jim comes, make sure you bring your lovely wife.

Speaker 1 I'd love to.

Speaker 5 Yes,

Speaker 3 we can always.

Speaker 1 Are you going to come back?

Speaker 12 Yeah, we didn't get to real talk about the valley and jacks and stuff.

Speaker 3 See, next time we'll have you on when it's like real, real time, like when we can dive deep on an episode. We'll definitely bring you back.
Jim, thanks for coming, buddy.

Speaker 1 Thanks for having me, mate. I appreciate it.
Thank you.

Speaker 3 Thanks for listening, guys. Thank you to our guest, Robin, Girl Boss Town, Jim Jeffries, and his wife, Tazy.
We'll see you back on Thursday. Bye.