E948 - Love Island USA w/ GirlBossTown, Jim Jefferies, Summer House, Not So Golden Bachelor, and The Valley

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What's going on, everybody?

Welcome back to another episode of the Vile Files Reality Recap Edition.

I am your host, Nick, and boy, do we have a lot to get into today.

We have a great episode for you.

The very hilarious Jim Jeffries joins us later this this episode along with his wife, Taisie.

Can't wait for you to hear from them.

I do also have a

story in a way.

Also, we have Girl Boulestown joining us momentarily, also known as Robin Delmonte, your internet big sister.

I don't know.

She's like

trends cutter.

She returns the vile files.

We love it when Robin's on.

She always has a lot of great insight and all things pop culture.

And she will be joining us to break down some Love Island, which is hitting up.

Quick thoughts.

Are we enjoying it so far relative to last season?

I'm enjoying it.

Not as much as I was season six, but like, you know, it's hard not to follow.

I struggle with some of the characters.

I think we forget just how many episodes there are and like how we felt about season six when it first started.

Like we didn't think about Leah and Rob the same way we did.

I was ine with originally.

I'm just saying, there's, yeah, that's what I'm saying.

It's so much fun.

You struggle for a while.

Yeah, wow, that's crazy.

I think if you're going in wanting to feel exactly about these characters, you know, in the beginning as you did at the end, like, that's that's apples and oranges.

I don't know.

I think it's promising.

I think it's promising.

I'm a Love Island virgin.

This is my first season.

And I'm enjoying, like, I thought I would.

It's fun and silly.

Yeah, I thought I would be really annoyed at the everyday aspect of it, but now I'm finding myself being like, ooh, it's out.

And then, like, turning it on.

It's really, I'm enjoying.

I'm locked in.

Well, not only is Nick the host of the Vile Fouls, he's also the host of Secret Lives of Mormon Wives Reunion.

She's a toy.

Well, obviously, why would you do a reunion for season one?

We're going to go back in time.

You need to explain things to people.

Anyways, very honored, very excited to be hosting this reunion with these incredible women.

They make the job easy.

They are very giving.

I'm excited for you guys to watch it.

It's a wild episode.

The episode is in the bank, so to speak.

I can't wait for you guys to see it.

A lot to unpack.

I know a lot of people have some feelings about Demi not being listed as the group amongst the group of women that attended the reunion.

I will say that in a way, she is very much a part of the reunion and in a way makes an appearance at the reunion.

She's definitely not forgotten.

And in a way there.

But she's also definitely not on the couch.

No,

she's not physically on that couch.

A hologram?

Yes, a hologram.

Yes, yes.

An AI version of Demi.

They had AI come in and have Demi say, I'm the star of this show.

But if you have questions about Demi's participation in season two, that itch will be scratched very much so.

July 1st.

July 1st.

July 1st.

So

we will be kicking off your 4th of July weekend with some major fireworks.

I can promise you that.

I'm so excited.

It's really good.

You'll laugh.

You'll cry.

You'll be at the edge of your seat.

Do you know what else airs in July is Bachelor in Paradise?

And apparently you guys have some Bachelor Nation tea to spill.

Well, if many of you guys have known that ABC slash Hulu has not picked up The Bachelor, their flagship show.

The Warner Brothers, The Bachelor Nation, the entity that is Bachelor Nation, that's owned by Warner Brothers, has obviously been in the news in all the wrong reasons.

A lot of disarray going on there.

They don't know who's going to be running the show.

And Hulu slash ABC is like, they're doing great things.

They got Mormon wives crushing it.

They're producing other shows.

They like, they don't need The Bachelor like they used to need The Bachelor.

This is my understanding of what's going on.

And so now ABC is kind of like, figure it out and let us know.

Could this be the end of an era?

No, I don't.

I think they have every intention of bringing it back.

I mean, the next bachelor season will be the 30th bachelor season.

That's a big, that's a big deal.

And I think they have every hope and intention of bringing it back.

But until Warner Brothers figures it out, about who's running it, who's show running it, what the concept is, they need to rebrand.

They need to refresh.

Personally, I think if we're talking bachelor, there's a huge opportunity here to like really modernize the show.

Like let's stop with tropes of like the pressure pressure that all these cast members have to have this like sad story when some of them like just aren't that sad.

Yeah, I think they need to make it like modern day dating.

If I were running that show, I would cast 60 women.

I would.

I would announce the women.

I would announce the women.

Nick's like, I wish I would have had more women.

No, no, no.

My sees is.

He's like

29 was not enough.

It's not about that.

It's not about that.

It's not about that.

But I do think they need to have the lead be somehow, in some way, a part of the quote-unquote casting process they need to give more shits about their lead liking more people on the show i think they need to modernize the show in a way that's like gives 2025 right and when i say cast 60 somewhat they're already casting that many people that go through that final stage of the process i think they need to announce these people much sooner than it when it airs put them out there let them let them get messy online let them make tick tocks let the bachelor somehow interact via text messages.

I think they should allow the bachelor to bring a phone, not necessarily necessarily their phone, but like a phone.

Like Love Island.

In a way, right?

Where the show has access to all the text messages that are sent.

So like the women could like text the bachelor.

Like send a little news.

Like when they're on the internet.

Maybe send a tentalating photo or send a text when they're on a date.

Maybe they can actually eat their dinner.

Maybe in like, you know how Bravo style, where they go out and like engage with society?

Why can't the bachelor do something like that?

You know what I'm saying?

Instead of the like concerts with no one else there

dancing to a performance.

Like stop making the limo exits or reveals like the main focus at the beginning of the show.

They can still do a funny thing, but like

allow the conversations to start happening.

Like get these people invested in these characters far earlier than they do.

They could modernize the show in the coolest way that would make it really popular.

I don't know if Warner Brothers is

right.

They're so precious about like the success they've had in their flagship show.

They're so precious they have fallen behind because they haven't had any competition for 20 plus years.

And now that they have competition, they have fallen so far behind.

They have put all their eggs into the golden franchise because it was such a major hit the first season with Gary, Jerry Gary.

Anyways, Joan season was obviously everyone I think loved Joan, but now we have the new

rock star.

We have the new golden bachelor.

His name is Mel Owens.

He

was like a

former NFL player,

football player.

He is 66 years old, and he went and did this random podcast that, like, had nothing to do with Golden Bachelor.

He was talking football.

Like, I don't know what to do.

He went to Michigan.

So, he did this random Michigan football obscure podcast.

This wasn't like sanctioned, clearly, clearly, it wasn't sanctioned by like anything ABC or Hulu or Warner Brothers.

He just was a guy who's had a life outside of The Bachelor, right?

He's a football guy, and he went on this like Michigan football podcast to talk football.

But now he's since been announced in cast as the golden bachelor.

They clearly asked him about that.

So they said, when asked about his preferences and a partner, age was the first thing Mel referenced.

I just said 45 to 60, just being honest, right?

The former football player admitted.

And then the process went and I was selected.

Then we had lunch with the executive producer and I said, if they're over 60, I'm cutting them, says a 66-year-old man.

Then he says, he says, oh no, this is not the silver bachelor.

This is the golden bachelor, but they're going to be hot.

Don't worry about it.

Don't worry about it.

He goes, you can't use the word cut.

I go, that's an NFL term.

Mel said he doesn't know anything about the women who will appear on his season, which films later this year, but said he knows they're going to be beautiful.

As for other qualities he's looking for, the dad of two added, they got to be fit because I stay in shape.

And I told producers, try to stay away from the artificial hips and the wigs, that kind of stuff.

Oh, no.

This is your golden bachelor.

Oh no.

What a nightmare.

This Warner Brothers cannot get out of their own way.

Well, interestingly enough, we talked to someone on the ABC side of thing, and they were like, when they were excited about the casting, and they were saying how they talked to Mel and they thought, you know, I don't know, this guy, you know, he looks great for his age.

He could definitely date younger if he wanted to.

So they had concerns like, you know, listen, The Bachelor is,

it's a very specific show.

The Bachelor is in a way kind of also an extension of the host.

It's not just about you.

You're there to tell other people's stories.

You know, there's other shows for that, per se, right?

Like, there's nothing wrong with an age gap.

There's nothing wrong with if you want to date younger at 66, do that.

But, like, this isn't the show for that.

You know what I'm saying?

And so they had concerns about his ability to be interested.

And I was told that he specifically said to those people that he wanted.

to date women.

He wasn't interested in dating younger.

He wanted to date women his age.

So did he lie to those people to get this job?

And now he's going on this other like Michigan State football podcast.

Where he thinks it's like just the bros.

Just the guys.

Well, it's like we're like, think about being selected and being excited to go and then finding this information out and being like, great.

So I'm cut night one.

I'm 65.

Again, Mel, good for you.

If you want to date younger, go and date younger.

That's your life.

You should do that.

But like, if you want to accept this role, you know, this role is about helping other people tell their stories, making these women feel comfortable, not shaming them for having a hip replacement surgery, You know, or

extensions.

Yeah,

or maybe like experiencing some hair loss later in life and like, you know, investing in a great wig and having them feel sexy about it.

Like, this is your Golden Bachelor?

I do fear that when, before, obviously, I worked here to do anything about the Bachelor, I found out about the Golden Bachelor and my friend and I decided to watch it because we were like, well, this is going to be insane because what's going to happen is you're casting an old man and there's only, you know, much love to all the old men out there, but there's only so much you can expect of an old man and certain opinions on things so we were like this is going to be insane and then it ended up being very sweet and then gary ended up being gary but it's just kind of like this is kind of the core issue with the golden bachelor right is like sometimes old men have antiquated views on women at least gary

you know and it's like what can you do well at least gary on he was great on camera i've heard mel's stiff So not only is he antiquated, he's not.

He's an old football guy.

He's not trying to.

You expect him to be like, oh, yes, I love him.

He's a bra.

Obviously, your medical record is beautiful.

It's a mess.

You can't have him talking this way about their most precious entity.

And that's the only thing they have left.

And it's so wholesome.

Like, that's what I love about it.

It was.

Exactly.

It was.

I'm not watching.

Yeah.

All right.

Well, up next, Robin Delmonte, also known as Girl of Boss Town, joins us to talk some Love Island.

And then we'll get into this page.

We got some summer house shake-up.

I want to also recast the valley since we're talking about recasting Bravo shows.

We have a new Beverly Hills Housewives.

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And later on, Jim Jeffries returns to the Vile Files to talk some reality TV in his new show he is hosting on Fox.

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Robin, welcome back to the show.

I'm so excited to be here.

You guys were one of the first podcasts I've done.

This is my third time.

Third time's a charm.

Third time's a charm.

So I'm very excited.

I don't feel like I've been

here for either.

Right?

Well, I mean, we had the iconic Peter moment where he came in for the interview so sweaty and

you were there that day.

Oh my god,

Peter from Vanderpump PRO and he was out there just ripping shots at 10 a.m.

yes and then came in and just like let it go and I was like okay here we are and I'm a VPR girly and now I see him at the grove a lot um I don't feel like putting you in after this okay

but it's so funny because everybody in the room was kind of like okay this is happening but we like can't say anything and then he left me we're like okay somebody i think a producer came over with wet wipes and was like wiping down the microphone and was like okay let's

it was great entertainment nothing No hate to Peter.

I mean, it was, he really let it all out.

So I think that was my favorite.

But going into this and speaking about Love Island, I'm a Love Island girly.

So I'll be excited to see how this one comes out as well.

Well, you're like known as the internet's big sister.

You're, you are, you, you made a name for yourself for the people who don't know, just making just wildly accurate predictions.

Was your most recent one confirmed, the La Boo Boos?

La Boo Boo.

I predicted La Booboos and Addison Ray in 2021 in the same week.

And then both of those kind of came true within the same week, which I think you can say is trend cycling.

But you know what?

I'll give my prediction ability.

I mean, it's funny.

I was actually talking to Natalie this weekend about Addison Ray and be like, how did she do it?

What?

Back in the pandemic, you had this wave of TikTok stars.

You know, it was like all these TikTok stars, they had just millions of followers.

But like, it ended up being kind of almost for most of them, kind of worthless.

You know, and now most of them have just disappeared, these massive creators.

But Addison Ray is one of the few who have like made a phenomenal music career out of it.

Yeah, and I was an Addison fan from the start.

And obviously a lot of those TikTok creators who became big in 2020 became big half from tweens, but half from hate.

You know what I mean?

I feel like everybody was like, what is this dancing on the internet?

So the hate really boosted their stardom, which I mean, is smart.

But I was an OG Addison girly and she knew it.

So she's like taken me out to dinner and we have like been in contact this whole time.

And the whole time I was like, she's going to be a star.

Just when we'd walk into like Tower Bar, which is like an old Hollywood establishment, the energy would just shift, like eyes would just shift.

And I'd be like, this girl's a star.

Like, I know it.

And so I'm so happy for her success.

And I think her working with Lexi Smith, who's like kind of like her muse, her best friend, her dancer, really just like helped create it, but it's insane.

I also think Charlie D'Amelio, not a lot of, everybody's talking about the Addison Ray Renaissance.

I think Charlie being on Broadway and doing what she's doing is like so admirable, so perfect for her.

She seems so happy.

So yeah, the 2020 girlies who like rose above Addison and Charlie, I'm happy for them.

But yeah, it's crazy.

I feel like Addison's going to be it, and it is massive.

I say the same thing about my wife, about she's a star when I walk in her star.

Yes, exactly.

But you can tell what

that type of energy.

Yeah, exactly.

I'm like,

you're feeling it.

You're feeling the pop star energy.

People don't know yet, but she's doing big things that I'm excited for people to find out about.

Well, she is.

I do want to ask you, what do you make of Justin Bieber right now?

It's giving a little Britney Spears Dancing with knives.

Okay.

So another thing I don't know if you guys know, my Instagram started as like a Justin Bieber fan account.

I don't think a lot of people know this like back, back, back in the day.

And we are also just, you know, big fans.

We were at a big Christmas party.

I think of like what was your name?

Was it different?

Like, did you have like a...

I won't say the name of what it was

because Bieber heart.

I'm like, I love Bieber 24-7.

No, but I was like there from Common Denominator.

I was there from mall tour.

Like I was an OG Bieber girly.

My first time in New York, I was 28 years old and my girlfriend and I at the time, we got David Letterman tickets.

We were true tourists because we stayed in Times Square.

We got offered David Letterman tickets.

We went there and I was like, who's the musical guest?

They're like, well, yesterday it was Michael Boublay.

I was like, bum.

And they're like, well, it's this guy named Justin Bieber.

He was like 16 at the time.

Came out.

Ben Stiller was like the main host.

And Bieber came out and I was like, this motherfucker can perform.

And I was a fan since then.

And then a couple of years ago, now that I went to a Christmas party that he was at and he was so lovely.

Oh, complimented my sweater.

I asked where I got it.

Was so just an absolute sweetheart.

Hugged us goodbye.

Was so kind.

I've met him and Haley and

the kindest, sweetest, nicest people.

When it comes to what's currently going on with Justin, I think that there's two aspects to it.

I think that he is a creative genius and like he literally was playing the drums at age two.

Like his brain works differently than everybody else.

I truly believe that.

And I think when you are so talented, you see the world very differently.

And then to go through all of that at a young age, you're going to have a lot

on your brain mentally going through it.

And I think that right now.

What he is going through is definitely a lot, but I'm not going to point fingers and be like, oh, I think it's this.

I think it's this.

I think it's this, because I'm not in any place to do it.

But I do think that in like five years, we will have the renaissance of free Britney where people are going to be like, wait, I feel bad.

We shouldn't have been doing that like you know what i mean so he's been i mean he dropped drew house right and now he has skylark well even like the scooter brawn of it all like that man in a sense helped like race him in so many ways and then he fell apart with that and then the drew house of it all and now he's with skylark and he's working closely with eddie benjamin who is another like creative genius he dated maddie ziggler he's an artist um and i just feel like he's going through a lot of spiritual awakenings so we're letting that happen but i'll always love him i'll always be a fan.

Meanwhile, his wife's a new billionaire, so that's also

fine.

Everything's gonna be okay, but I will say, like, what, when he posts on Instagram, I'm kind of like,

okay, like, I think maybe we should, like, put the phone down right now.

Yeah, you know what I mean?

But we all go through those moments.

You see me tomorrow like having like little stories.

Yeah.

We're like, Robin, put the phone down.

Put the phone down.

You're right.

I mean, as a creative genius, like, I don't know, there's certain things that like, it always reminded me, like, when I was my first time, I was on The Bachelor.

you know we expect a different from our reality tv stars than our like a major like musician creative geniuses like we don't want our reality tv stars to be trendsetters no you know like we don't we don't want them showing up taking fashion risks

what the fuck are you doing yeah i tried that people are like absolutely not when it comes to like like hairy styles they're like oh no yeah pop off king let's let's try that off it's like a completely you know and you have we have to let our stars take risks yes exactly i also think when your creativity turns into a career and there's pressure on it, it shifts things.

So it's like everybody's expecting so much of him and he's just kind of wanting to go through this own journey.

So we'll see.

I will predict in five years there's going to be like a free Britney Renaissance being like, oh my God, like I can't believe we were that hard on him, especially after everything he's gone through.

So any other kind of pop culture, like things that you're really focusing on right now or things out there that people should start paying attention to?

Okay, so a lot of people come to me as creative, predicting all these things, but I'm also just like a normal pop culture girly.

Like I love Secret Lives and Mormon Wives.

I love all of the reality TV shows like Love Island that we're about to speak about.

But I will say with Secret Lives and Mormon Wives, I've been like looking at it at a more granular level.

And I think that Taylor Frankie Paul, did you hear what the producer or the director said about her?

He has like Kardashian.

Oh, Snookie.

She was like, reality TV people come and go, but like, I think that like she is a star.

She's 100%.

She is going to be like a snookie, like a Kim, where it's like exudes beyond this reality TV level.

I can tell you because she's both a star and a professional.

And I said this before they announced that I was hosting the reunion,

but like.

Which is amazing.

And everybody.

Did you, I'm not sure, like, don't read the comments.

Everybody was like, this is so right for you to host that reunion.

Yeah, I think it's so smart because reunions sometimes are just like to blow smoke up people's ass and you'll ask the questions

i appreciate it i'm very excited it's uh it's been a dream of mine but uh before we recorded the reunion and you know i've interviewed a lot of different people on the show or whatever and you know reality tv stars obviously you know it can be nerve-wracking you know you're it's like you want to make good tv but you you don't want to be called out for your behavior and taylor came up to me and she's like challenge us push us like you know that was that no one's like there's no reality tv star that i've ever interviewed other than taylor frankie paul has ever like said that to me because she understands like the assignment.

She's not afraid.

She can be authentic.

She knows that she can be a little toxic and messy.

She can be accountable for her decisions.

And she is an absolute star.

And like, she's one of the very few reality TV stars I ever met with that type of quality.

Yeah.

No, I'm obsessed with her.

And I love how on the show, it's weird because it's like, like you said, she can be messy.

She can be drama, but you like can't hate her, which I think is like

so many other stars will like be messy and kind of like

and pretend that like we're the ones who are delusional as fans.

And it's like, and you're like, what?

And Taylor's like, no, I'm just like, I'm just going to, this is who I am.

And this is what you asked of me.

And I'm giving it to you.

And just, but she, she, it's her full transparency.

I feel like a lot of the times housewives come on and it's like they have a persona that they want to put out there and things that they don't want to get exposed.

Where I'm like, Taylor specifically, I feel like it's just like, well, here's my baggage.

Here's my drama.

Here's what's happening today.

And like, she's not sugarcoating anything or trying to hide anything, which makes it that much more endearing.

because I also feel like a lot of housewives have husbands who have reputations and it's kind of like don't you go on there and like arrow dirty laundry yeah and I also think that like there could be a college course or are speaking about reality TV and perception because it's like at first people went on reality TV and they were authentically themselves like the Jersey Shore.

It blew up.

We loved them for being messy.

Then there came the 2016 Renaissance where influencer marketing came into the picture.

So it's like, okay, not only do I want to be myself and get a following, but I also want to be perceived as somebody who can like get brand deals, who can work, who can turn mainstream.

So they were aware of their perception.

Then it kind of went in the opposite way where they're like, the messier, more chaotic I am, the better.

So it's like, once perception came into the picture with reality TV, it shifted things and it became very difficult to actually be yourself and be marketable at the same time.

And she has that, which I think might be the problem with Love Island USA, but we'll go into that when we talk about it.

I would say like the, I would say, most of her, like Taylor's definitely top of her game, but to the credit to the rest of the women as well, I think as a collective, that group

shares that sentiment.

I think Taylor might be the best at it, but I think a lot of the women have learned from her.

And to that point, like they found a group of women who understand their job first is to be reality TV stars.

And that's why like most internet personalities, TikTokers,

they've tried to make a lot of internet stars reality TV stars and it have fallen flat.

And these women are the exception to the rule.

And their exception to the rule is because, you know, there's so much personality behind them and they're willing to show it.

Was where, you know, you go online, you can make a 15-second TikTok.

You don't have to have that much personality.

You just have to have the ability to like re-record it to get it right,

so to speak.

And then one last thing.

So have you interviewed Brooks Nader?

No.

No.

Okay.

So when we were at that event that I saw you guys at, I interviewed her and her sisters, and they have like a sister reality TV show coming out.

To your point,

so many people try to come out with these shows.

The producers that I was working with, after they left the room was like, I think there's something there.

And I 100% agree.

And like, I didn't really necessarily watch Dancing with the Stars.

I know that she was an influencer.

I know that she was in that relationship.

She's gorgeous.

The sisters, when they walked in, had such OG Kardashian sister energy.

Like they were bickering during the interview in a way that was like so real.

And like I'm one of four sisters too.

And I was like, okay, I feel like everybody thinks this show isn't going to do something.

But I weirdly got energy of like, if this is done right, I think there's something that makes sense.

I mean, I want to put that on camera because it was literally like they were, the way they were bickering during the interview was like, are you wearing my shirt?

Like, you know, these sisters are energy.

But it was real.

And I was like, okay, I think if they capture this right, I think we might be good.

That's the point, right?

Because so many reality TV stars right now will not do that.

They'll show up to the event and be like, don't, don't,

exactly.

And then they'll do like some kind of like forced scene.

It feels forced.

And it's just like that.

That's what we're getting from the valley right now.

It's just like, what are we doing?

Is this, is this a scene?

I don't fucking know.

Like, so if the valley is a social experience, if they, if they're really trying to do that, you know, then you're right.

Yeah, I literally was like, okay, I want to put that out there.

I mean, I feel like people don't have like the highest of hope score, but I literally, even the producers that I was with were like, okay, that was energy.

Like, I don't know what that was, but that was energy.

Do you watch The Valley?

I do watch The Valley.

I think I love the concept.

I think they recast most of the people.

What is your most controversial Valley opinion?

I think most of them are losers.

But isn't that what made Vanderpump Rules amazing?

No, because what Vanderpump was a bunch of young people who, like, it was the Hollywood dream story, and we gave them grace because they were like, now they're parents, they're like 21, 22-year-olds.

We allowed them to fuck up.

And when I say loser, I don't mean like for Kristen's on that show.

I don't think she's a loser at all.

We love Kristen Doty.

She is the best.

She, because we've watched Kristen grow up on TV and we've watched her be vulnerable.

We've watched her account for her mistakes.

Now she is about to give birth to her first baby.

Her partner, Luke, is a stand-up guy, a good guy.

She, you know, we've seen growth, right?

Jax and Brittany, they're losers.

And I say that because like it's the same shit over and over.

There's no growth.

There's no, it's just the same darkness.

Especially because it's recorded of no growth.

It's like, we have watched you for 12 years.

Like every reunion, it became the joke of being like, well, I'm working on myself now.

And Andy would be like, okay.

Again?

Like the Kardashians, like Kardashians will show you messy.

They'll show you drama, but they are aspirational.

They are not losers.

You know what I'm saying?

They show you the drama and the fun and the messiness, but you also want to be them.

There's nothing about Brooks or Jax or Jesse Lolly that is aspirational.

It's just like a sad, it's just sad people who can't get out of their own way.

I think, especially with the men on Bravo, I mean, I think there's going to be a whole dissertation about this.

I mean, Lexi not getting asked back to Summerhouse.

I know people have different opinions on that.

I like

that.

I like Lexi.

I feel like, by the way, like in 2016, when I moved to LA before I moved back home, I feel like I used to like see her out in in the clubs and stuff like that like i specifically like remember her and i remember being like that girl's like stunning i liked her on summer house i love all the summer house girlies i'm close with paige but it's like her not being asked back it's like okay i'm not a producer i don't get this but the men that just continue to get asked back on bravo i'm like i don't want to start the like andy favors men rhetoric but it's kind of like Why are we putting all these men in Bravo in such a position of power and then being like, oh my God, I can't believe they did that to their wives and bravo.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Because Because it's like, we're putting them there, by the way, guys.

Like, we're literally putting them in this position.

And I think, especially when it comes to the valley, it's like, no, no, no, like they're old and they're still doing this and we're eating it up question mark.

Like, I agree.

I think it's weird, but I love Kristen.

She's like a Taylor Frankie Paul, like where it's like, I'm going to be messy and like literally be messy, but then is somewhat weirdly level.

She has a, because she has a good heart, you know?

And you can tell, and she always has.

And she always has.

I agree.

I would put Lala back on the valley.

Yeah.

She has an interesting backstory.

She's definitely not alone.

Yeah.

Her, like, living in this, what she calls, like, her pod with her mom and her brother, like raising her two children is like,

no, she shows growth.

She might make mistakes.

She might like fuck up, but like, she, you know, there's just.

I need someone who can put somebody in their place on that show.

Yeah.

And I feel like Lala is the only one.

And they're having like Britney do that.

And it's like, this is not.

It's too, it's too heightened.

It's too emotional.

Every time she speaks up and calls someone out, I'm like, deal with your shit first.

I don't like you're too tragic to like call anyone out.

And like, I give grace too.

It's like, I've had addiction in my family.

Like, I can't even imagine like dealing with that, but it's like, exactly, it's like, let's maybe like turn inward and kind of just like figure this out.

Because it's like, you, I, you know, you, you feel bad for her, but then she says things like, I kind of wanted him to fight for me.

Yeah.

Like, babe, fight for you.

Yeah.

No, I know.

You got to get out of that.

Like, you're shocked he didn't pay rent.

Like,

and I think

I think there's ways to show addiction on Bravo and to show kind of like dysfunctional, like Mary Cosby.

I don't know if you guys watching

Mary Cosby and her son, like that was,

that was so brave.

Genuinely, it's close to home to me and my family situation.

I was like, this is such a respectful way of doing this, but also letting the audience in, which is like so vulnerable.

And like, I respect how that whole situation was done.

But now it's like, it's being used as like.

not Utah, but the Valley.

It's being used as like a drama indicator.

And it's like, that shouldn't be pointed at as like, oh my God, like this drama next week.

It's like, no, that should be like, that's sad.

Like, let's like not do that.

You know what I mean?

I don't know.

I completely agree with you.

But props to Paige.

I mean, I love someone who leaves out on top.

Like, she invests and Paige, I did a long, long audition process with her for something for like a year.

And we had a bunch of chemistry reads.

And she is somebody that is completely herself when the cameras are on, off.

She has the it factor.

I think that her PJ line, Daphne, like I obviously when influencers or creators come out with lines, we're like, oh, it's another one.

I think it's going to be very big, like a base, like a

road.

I think she's business savvy.

I love her.

And I love somebody who goes out on top.

I love it.

Cause you have to, you have to know.

And she didn't make it like, this is my last season the whole season.

She was kind of like, okay, so I did that.

And I'm leaving.

And it makes sense because it's like, she wants to sit in bed.

Like I fucking do too.

Like, I'm not going to go to a party house.

Where's Summer House go from here?

Like, Carl did not leave.

There was like a fake announcement.

I was actually happy for Carl when I saw the fake announcement.

After watching the Lexi and Jesse of it all wrap up of part one and blend it into part two, there wasn't like, I'm not, I wasn't that interested in part, the rest of part two.

There's no

Amanda and Kyle, like, will they, won't they have a kid someday?

I don't, again, that's.

Nothing.

Yeah, I think that I heard, I saw on Brianna Chicken Fry's like TikTok or story that like she was talking to summer house people at one point.

But I think there's a way in which I think Danny Pellegrino said it, have like a sex in the city like show with the people in the city during the week, running businesses, having drama.

Like I would watch that because whenever they're in the city, they're doing more than when they're in the Hamptons and they can film more places and then do a separate summer house that's kind of like more of a

Love Island-y audience, like a, not younger, but like a, I want to go out and be messy, which I can't do.

And like hook up with people.

And hook up with people and then stop and go for the other guy in the house.

Right.

Like, I think it needs to be that.

I think it's okay to also say younger too, because I'm like, we grew up with the cast.

It's what, 10 seasons, nine seasons in.

That I'm like, they're all well in their 30s.

They're established.

They're having kids.

They're getting married.

They're starting businesses.

That I'm like, that's the real stuff that we would want to be seeing in our demographic.

But I feel like when I started watching the show, I was in their age demographic and I was like, yes, the party, the mess, the making out in the pantry.

And I've never been to the Hamptons, but I watch the Hamptons every weekend on my Instagram stories from every influencer.

So it's like, there's an audience out there doing that stuff.

You know what I mean?

Sarfage is pumping.

I know Sarfage has those chicken tower, chicken tender towers.

I've never been there because I've watched it on my stories.

No, no, no, no,

no.

I haven't either.

I hate waiting in line.

Yes.

I hate waiting in line.

And not in a pretentious way, but in like a way where it's like, okay, like waiting in line for like two hours and then you go and stand in like a room and you're like, okay, like, well, like, what am I really doing?

Yeah.

And then I hear everything's like really far away.

It kind of reminds me of like a stagecoach or a Coachella where the parties are like an hour away where it's like, okay, this is,

I like my bed.

I like it.

Inconvenient fun.

Inconvenient fun.

Or it's like the pregame is always more fun than the event.

Yeah.

Because then you're like in the Uber on the way there and you're like, so very fun.

Like, you know what I mean?

You're just like, yeah.

And then you get there and you're like, what am I doing?

Anyone watch sirens?

Yes, I did.

Oh, my God.

We just finished it last night.

I think it was so.

Also, the second last episode was awesome.

I didn't love the ending.

The actress from the UK who is in House of the Dragon, she's the younger sister

simone simone yeah i don't know if you see in her interviews um

she's british yeah and she's also like the complete opposite of her character she's so like in interviews somebody will be like when you signed up for house of the dragon do you think it was gonna be like game of throne she's like not really like i did anybody say we were trying to be like that i don't i don't know like whatever she's so character not media trained in the best way

she's definitely gonna and she's gonna she's playing supergirl i'm not into marvel or those like superhero movies but i think she's gonna have like a big Jennifer Lawrence.

I'm relatable on a carpet and I'm a good actress rise to fame.

And I'm here for that for her.

I like her.

Did you just see they just posted a Harris Dickinson doing the Road Mist Spray campaign?

No.

Oh my God, I didn't see that.

I like him.

I like him too.

Is he going to be in the new Beatles movie, I believe?

I believe he's actually,

which I'm so excited for because I'm a Paul Mezcal.

Girly.

Oh my God.

And speaking of the UK and speaking of Love Island, I literally want, I want to move to the UK more than anything.

I love it there.

I try to go as much as I can.

And I think JoJo Siwa being a UK TV personality makes the most sense of anything I've ever seen in my life.

The Chris Hughes of it all, I'm sure you guys will hang out with Chris Hughes or have met him.

I was an OG Chris Hughes fan.

I watched Love Island Season 3 live.

So what do you think of this relationship?

Okay, so I.

His ex came out and said she's really famous.

That was her response.

Olivia was Olivia the end.

Probably.

So I love olivia i'm an og love island uk girl so his season i don't know if you guys have watched it you need to go and watch it especially if you get like have surgery or get your tonsils out or something it's a good one where you can sit you watch the whole thing it shifted the tone of love island forever in a positive way it's so so good i think the relationship is a little weird but i'm happy because i think she belongs in the uk especially from a media perspective i feel like in the uk being weird and quirky and yourself and creative and changing all the time is like, people eat that up.

Like, yeah,

it's not looked up as like, oh my God, like, that's weird.

They're like, okay, cool.

Anyways, let's go to the public.

I don't really give a shit, but this is entertaining.

Like, you know what I mean?

They wouldn't like dive into like, she wore this.

So I'm happy for her.

I do think it's a little weird just because, like, I love dance moms and I love Love Island UK.

And I'm thinking at the times that those came out, I'm like, I would have literally never in a million years put this together, but I'm happy.

I think that it's so smart.

Not that it was planned, you know what I mean?

For her to be a big UK TV personality, but

It makes so much sense.

Yeah, so much sense.

Seems really happy.

And I don't blame her for wanting to be there.

Yeah.

I look forward to meeting him.

You guys need to watch Love Island Season 3.

It shifted everything because before that, Love Island was a raunchy, raunchy show.

People would hook up on top of the beds and everybody would stand around and watch.

Like it was.

So raunchy and they would drink cigarettes.

They would drink all day, smoked cigarettes.

And then Love Island Season 3 became so big because of the cast.

The cast from that all became household names, major media stars.

Chris's ex is like a huge, huge, huge TV personality.

So they changed the age, like level or grade of the TV show so more families could watch it after that season because it became so big.

And that's why they can't smoke cigarettes on screen anymore over there and don't drink as much because that's that season was so big.

But watch it.

It's incredible.

Well, this is a great segue to get into Love Island.

So obviously, we have the beginning of season seven.

Season six was in absolute behemoth.

What are you thinking so far?

Do you think it's living up to the hope and hype?

It's more hope, I guess, than hype, just obviously because season six was such an anomaly.

I'm watching it early on, pretty optimistic.

And I'm trying to like have patience because one, there's like 30, so many episodes.

I think we forget like how much time it takes for some character arcs to happen.

Like, we didn't think of Leah and Rob in the beginning of the season of season six, is that we thought of them at the end of season six.

There was was a lot of like, who are these people?

I'm not sure.

Rob caught some heat from jumping in the pool.

Yada, yada, yada.

It took some time.

What are your thoughts?

So as a Love Island enthusiast, I've watched all of UK, all of Australia,

now U.S.

I got flown to Fiji in 2023 when they were really trying to push Love Island USA.

I went to the villa.

I talked to the showrunners.

I saw how the sauce was made and I gave my point of view of what I think could happen or should be done.

And then Love Island USA exploded.

I'm happy for it.

But my point to that is there's a formula to Love Island.

And I think audiences from the USA aren't used to that.

So they're like, wait, why isn't this like last season?

Like, there's a formula.

You have to wait it out.

Seasons, I mean, weeks three and four always pop off.

The casa more of it all.

So although it's, you can't, and you also can't compare seasons.

Like Love Island UK

is every season is different for a reason, but that's what makes it great.

I will say when I tell people in the UK I love Love Island, they're like, oh, that's, yeah, I watch it too, but it's kind of like a jersey shorts, still kind of seen as like, not trashy, but like, oh, that's like reality TV, which is what makes it good.

Cause the people who go on aren't like, I'm a brand.

Yeah.

And I think the USA is already turning into people coming on being like, I'm a brand, which is my biggest critique.

And Gace is a YouTube star.

Yeah.

And they did pick people for the most part who have like lower followings, but you could tell

they're all, I'm a star already, which is like my biggest critique about USA.

I think it'll be good.

I'm always a love island USA, not hater, but like I'm very critical.

And I tell everybody, I'm like, please watch UK and then watch USA to really understand it and take it in.

But I think there's stuff there.

I think there's meat there.

And I think the first, I like the first week.

And like, I'm kind of like a hater when it comes to USA.

And I was enjoying it.

I mean, I thought the first elimination had way more stakes than I was expecting.

Like usually the first couple eliminations you're like yeah yeah it was kind of obvious like but between bell dasha

bell dasha she had star potential i have something to say about beldasha her thing on instagram is isabelle ann so i'm like is the a a rebrand a rebrand she's rebranding like you know what i mean i'm like was that purposeful here's what's gonna happen with with baldasha and you can literally put millions of dollars on it she's gonna come back as a cass out more girl

it's gonna be this week, they're going to bring in something, somebody for Sierra that's going to like be like, oh, so what is his name's Nick, right?

They're going to be like, Nick's now going to be like, well, I know what I put you through and I really do want to be with you.

And she's like, well, you didn't pick me right away.

So I have to explore my options.

She's going to have a guy.

She's going to pick him at the end.

Then the third week.

Nick.

The third week is going to be them.

Okay, now we can finally be together now that we don't have two other people in the picture.

Fourth week's going to be Cassel Moore.

They're going to bring in Bell Dasha.

That's what's going to happen.

Mark my words.

Clip this, put it on Instagram.

You're welcome.

But that is what's going to happen.

It's happened on Love Island UK before where, like, kind of somebody with a lot of potential gets eliminated

first week.

What?

Zamali.

I didn't like that they brought her back.

I didn't expect that.

But yeah, that's going to happen.

But I loved her.

I thought she was so cute.

I struggled with her in the first couple episodes.

I mean, she spoke TikTok.

She made me feel like I was a boomer.

I mean, the amount of stuff that she's wearing, I'm like,

no, yeah, I hate her.

But

that's what works though.

It's like

I'm like, what?

Where are we?

It's unique.

It's different.

You're like, you don't, you think you hated at first and then you're like, and then you're like, there's something there.

And you're like, I can't believe she's gone.

Because either way, we talked about her.

You know what I'm saying?

While we watched her, we paid attention to Bell Dasha.

It's like she spoke in Morse code, though.

Yes.

Well, I think.

I watch Love Island UK and I'm like, oh, the way they speak their lingo is like, I think like that's just UK lingo.

But then in my head, I'm like, oh, is that their version of like Gen z lingo because when i'm watching this i'm like i'm 31 and but i've i'm with the kids i'm on tick tock like you know what i mean and i'm like what are they saying

but it's in a way where it's like that's where i think it's a little on brain because they'll be like girl like they'll say it as it's like a slogan i'm like are they trying to make a tick tock sound out of this like don't you feel like sometimes they're trying to make a tick tock sound out of it i'm like okay but do you think uh shelly and ace are playing the long game no so i by the way shelly looks like hallie bailey yeah um gorgeous all the girls this season it's stunning truthly i'm like what the hell like breathtaking i think i predict that ace is gonna find his girl in casa more um i think they're gonna play this like little long game here and there up until then um but i think he he has casa more girly written all over him in a way that it's like gonna work out in the end not like he's gonna like leave and then like come back I feel like he's it seems very calculated, you know what I mean?

But I feel like, I don't know, I don't, am I the only one who doesn't see them together?

I think it's like it's too perfect, it's too like, oh my God, invisible string.

Everybody wants them together, and everybody in the comments I see on Instagram is like, why didn't he pick her or whatever, blah, blah, blah.

But I'm not the biggest, I'm not really rooting for them.

I don't know.

Really?

I just feel like you're rooting for them?

They seem to be the two smartest people in the group.

In what way?

There's some of the other conversations like between, they're just a little, it's more like who's the girl that Ace picked?

Amaya.

Amaya.

And then who's the Florida boy?

When they talked, it's like, I get these people.

They just laugh, they goof.

It's like, it seemed like Shelly and Ace would have like deeper conversations and they seemed to like enjoy that about each other.

And it seemed like they could really have an emotional relationship that I don't feel like I see with Ace.

And

yeah.

Have you ever put on your producer hat, though?

Like sometimes I have a producer lens on when I'm looking at it.

And I'm like, the producers saw the audience because this is filmed in real time and posted in like real time essentially.

They saw, oh my God, they knew each other in the outside world.

Let's tap into this.

The audience loves this.

So we're going to show them having this deep, these deep conversations because we want to push that narrative.

And whether they get together or they don't, that's going to cause.

That's true.

Because I was pissed when he didn't pick.

Exactly.

So I think that, but Austin is.

Why why do i weirdly like not hate austin i don't know like i think that like he's so weird it's like i can't understand him so maybe that's why i'm like i can't hate him because i don't understand him like i'm like this is just bizarre and i weirdly think because i like maybe it's because i like shelly and shelly still kind of likes him so i'm like Is there something there?

I don't know.

It's weird.

Someone said he looks like someone drew Justin Hartley from memory.

Well, not 1,000%.

Nick is like the Walter Goggins.

He also looks like Walton.

Walton.

Oh, my God.

I'm like, none of these girls can cover him with a starface pimple patch.

I know.

Literally.

I was like, these girls are fighting over this man with his pimple.

It's crazy.

But speaking of him, okay, this is controversial.

I know everybody was mad at him for not picking Belle-A.

Oh, I wanted him to pick Siro.

But I also like, I think it is a little bit

of like, it's week one and like he was put in that position.

I don't necessarily, and this is not pick me because trust me i hate men like hear me out but like

i say space i hate men

but i don't think he's like a bad guy or like an asshole like i think like i think it was a little manipulative on the side of like you know she wasn't here to kiss and then you took her up to soul ties and you were like let's run back fourth base like you got her to kiss you again and then giving that speech he's like that whole we shared that special moment pause she's like

and he goes in the photo booth crushing it.

There is this one thing I notice with young men on dating shows, and I think I like Jesse Suttleman did a little bit.

The way they fuck up and do these women dirty and then immediately like forgive the women for something.

Taylor, he was like, after.

This pissed me off.

Yeah.

He goes, well,

I forgive you to Alandrea.

You know, she talked to him.

He came up to her afterward and he was like, yeah, no, I forgive you for how you.

It's like, why you forgive her for what?

Nick said this some version of that to I think either Sierra or Beldasha where it's like these guys immediately like turning on these women as if like these women did something wrong and I'm like what the fuck like this is also what I think USA lacks I feel like in UK the male friendships and the men that go on that show are likable yeah and I feel like on USA the men are villainized right off the bat because they're doing stupid shit and I'm like I hate you already like I don't even like you like what are you doing and like especially like when they would like win a challenge or band together they all stood up and left all the girls on the couch.

I'm like, they're not really likable.

And like, maybe they think that doing that is going to like give them a story arc.

Or like, maybe the producers think that that's what we want to see.

But I'm also kind of like, yeah, it just, it never paints them in a good light.

I don't think they know what they're doing.

But then when they do do sweet things, I'm like, oh, they're only doing this because they want to look like the good guy.

So I'm like, I can't win as an audience member.

Why don't the women like Charlie more?

I feel like he's hot as far as he's like, number one.

he's like, yeah, he's my number one.

He's got a great voice, like, and the women just ignore this guy.

Like, gave them the no, he is my number one.

Also, the girl that he's with, Hannah, is her name, Hannah.

Hannah, yeah.

People say on TikTok, people keep tagging me in our TikToks and say that we look alike a little bit.

And I think it's because we like both kind of have like a little bit of a lisp and like talk out of the side of our mouth.

I think that they're going to go far.

Like, I think they're going to grow into something.

I love them.

Girls, if you go on Love Island in the future, I always say pick the underdog.

Pick the underdog.

There's a reason why everybody's going for the assholes at first.

And the guys who are in the back, it's like, those are the Slowburns.

Those are the ones that are good.

I have no idea why nobody liked him.

And I always were putting him on first base or not picking him like, you don't want to make out with this man?

He has an accent.

He's like, what is happening?

Yeah.

And he seems like the most level-headed.

And after the game, he's like, I think I gave all the girls the ick.

I was like, you gave all the girls that

I was.

So that says him being self-aware, just knowing what the ick is, just like conscious that like he might do something.

These other guys can't even comprehend they might turn off women.

Yeah, literally.

And like every time they like fuck over a girl, like when the guy was like, and they're back to 50-50, all the guys were like, yes.

Yeah.

What are we doing here?

Like, I completely agree.

I have no idea.

Then that also was like, I think he brought it up, which is another self-aware point.

He's like, I'm not the guy that they had a crush on in middle school.

Like, I'm not the guy that they had a crush on in high school because our cultures are different.

Yeah.

So they're not like seeing me right away and being like, oh my God, you know, just because he's different.

But yeah, I am like, why is nobody after him?

I have no idea.

This might be controversial, but I hate the way Huda went about telling

Jeremiah that she's a mom.

It felt so, if I'm her child, it's giving you're embarrassed of me.

It's giving you don't want to share.

Like, if, if, God forbid this ever happens, Nick and I get a divorce and I'm on Love Island USSI.

And I am on Love Island USA.

Yeah, which I don't know if I'd ever do.

I have to leave my child for two months with no contact.

Sorry, not interested.

But like, I'm leading with that, right?

Like, I don't even want to entertain the possibility of someone who's not like going to love my daughter.

So like, why would I even like hide that for a moment?

She told the women immediately, like, open the door with being like, hey, my name's Huda and I'm a mother.

So if you don't have the mature like responsibility to deal with that, then don't even try to fucking talk to me.

I want to give her grace, but after hearing Natalie's take while watching it, then I feel like it's giving,

I want to stay on the show.

I have a theory.

Give it.

Jessica, Love is Blind,

hiding that she, not hiding, or like not saying that she had kids, then saying she had kids, big reality TV moment.

Everybody was talking about it.

The you will choke everything.

I think maybe either producer saw that or she saw that.

And during her interview process of Love Island, she's like, I'm a mom.

I'm nervous to come on and tell people.

And they were like, you know what?

Like, this is your show.

Like, this is your opportunity.

Like, you don't have to tell everybody right away.

Maybe tell the girl.

I think there might be a little producer of it all because she came and she's like, I'm a mom.

Like, you know what I mean?

Like, and then her not telling them, I think there might be some sort of producer in her ear being like, I would wait.

to tell somebody until it's real like, you know what I mean?

Or she could just be saying that and like, I'm not a mom, so I don't get it.

But I also, and this might be controversial, but I think that telling somebody from the start, not only is like a sign of respect, but it's like, this is who I am.

Like, that's going to be a massive mess of our.

Obviously, you don't introduce the kid until you're comfortable and like figure that out.

But I do think that that was a little weird.

And his reaction was completely okay.

Cause I would be like, 100%.

Oh, my God.

Because when you date somebody who has a child already, I come from a family.

My mom was divorced twice by the age age of nine.

I met boyfriends.

I met, I had stepdads.

When you date somebody with a child, you are not dating and going to be newlyweds and have that time alone.

Like, there's somebody else in the picture.

And different relationship.

Different relationship.

Different relationship.

So it's like, I understood his reaction.

But then it felt like she was trying to like sell her daughter.

She's like, she's got a, she's just like me.

She loves arcade.

She loves this.

She's so cool.

She's so this.

And it was like, you don't have to do all that.

Like, you don't have to try to like make her sound like

he'll love her.

You know, what are your thoughts on them in general?

Hey, I, it's four days in, bitch.

Like, you cannot.

She was so mean to that new bombshell.

Oh, yeah.

So mean.

I don't, I don't know what it is about her, but she's dirty.

It's like, you just met her.

Like, she was playing a game.

Yeah.

Also, going back to like the kid thing, I also think it was how she led into it with the whole, like, I have a second bedroom.

Like, say you have an office, like, if you don't want to like talk about your kid, but it's like you're, you're, you're setting it up.

Like, there's this big, scary secret.

even the lead up to that whole conversation on the dock where it was like i just have to tell you something it was like this could be any td murdered someone like the uh the we're a mom and it's they're just they're not playing the long game and there i think they're just going to burn out way too early well i think did every i haven't really seen uh the narrative online about this but he goes but if we go all the way and win that that i texted leia literally was like did you catch something that was a giant red flag that was obviously and he's like well i mean like make it to the end.

And he like corrected himself.

Now in my head, I'm a producer.

Like, by the way, I've never produced anything in my life.

This is just this lens that I have.

Some people are just born with it.

Yes.

Literally.

Yeah.

Maybe it's because I always say like the TV raised me.

Like the TV was my babysitter.

Now from this point, if anybody comes in and tries to date her or pursue her, they're going on to be.

the good guy to have that role on the show of like you know what like i'm gonna come come in and like be the guy that like takes it well that she has kids.

Like, and if they stay together, in his head, he's like, oh, I'm going to win the show because like I'm going to be the guy that she deserves and we're going to have this family and that's going to make people root for us.

Like, I feel like she is set up for failure.

No matter what, which like sucks.

But I think that like, if they ever break up, the next guy who comes in who tries to be with her, it's going to be for a reason, which might be why she was kind of like hesitant to say she had kids to begin with.

But like i just think that like there is no way shape or form where she's going to leave this happy

which will be good for the show and might be good for her socially or like career wise but i just think that like it's gonna explode it's gonna explode like there's no way and but i will say maybe i've worked i've been working on my emotional maturity i'm in a healthy relationship now you know i'm in therapy and i totally think that she approached the situation wrong but maybe it's just because like i'm like not like a proof but but like if I saw the guy that I really liked doing that with all these girls, maybe it's because I like didn't date a lot.

I would kind of be like, oh my God, like that hurts me.

Like that upsets me.

I wouldn't have every right to like have her feelings hurt.

Right.

Like, I think it's hard to see any of these girls like, of course, for Alandria to watch like Taylor make out with all.

I think it probably like there was a moment in her head where she was like, damn, that kind of sucks.

Like, whatever.

But I think the fact that she was like death staring this man to the point where he felt so uncomfortable, he couldn't even participate in the fucking game.

He was like, I didn't, I didn't even kiss her back.

I, my hands weren't on her.

Like he was in four days.

He was very, it seems, it's giving like he is scared.

I love her.

I also think the thing with Love Island that makes it great and like horrible for the people, which is all reality TV, is since there's no phones, no books, no nothing, like you literally have nothing, all of their attention, energy, all their energy, energy goes to the person they're pursuing.

Yeah.

So from a girl's perspective, they're like, this is what I've always wanted.

Look.

A man is giving me all of his attention.

This is love.

And guys are like, well, I'm bored.

Like, I'm just going to, yeah, I guess this is really all I have to do.

Have another chat?

Yeah.

So in their heads, they're like, even though it's been four days, they're like, no, like, this is like 100% real.

Like, he's giving me everything.

I've always wanted his full attention.

But it's like, it's been four days.

I do wish.

Some of the women would check.

Huda, like, Ace did of him being like, we're four days in.

She's like, I don't care.

It's like, I wish some of these women would be like, babe, you can't be pissed off at this bombshell.

She's doing it.

She also can't say, Well, because I have a kid and I told him, then, like, he needs to take me more seriously.

Because 1000%, if I was her, I'd be like, Yeah, like, I need you to take me more seriously.

I have a child.

But from his perspective, he's like, well, I came on this dating show.

Like, I don't know if I want to have a kid.

You know what I mean?

So it's like, you can't be taken seriously when you're on Love Island squirting ketchup up people and like swallowing popsicles.

Like, you're just not going to be taken seriously.

You didn't leave with me.

I Have a Kid.

And, like, I can still think in her head, it's 100% feasible for her to be like, well, I want the guy who's with me to like respect me and like want to be with me.

Like, I just told him I have a kid, but it's like, yeah, we're on Love Island though.

And like,

not what's bashing her.

Yeah, he didn't sign up for that.

It's early, but who amongst this cast do you think has the biggest star potential outside of Love Island?

Do you think there's the PPG element possible with this group of cast?

Is there a Rob, so to speak?

I think this is a very, even though they're focusing on the men i think this is a girl heavy season in the sense of personalities i mean none of the guys personalities really like blew me out of the water at all i think it's really early to tell but i say i think that sierra is gonna be a big fashion influencer girly after isn't she kind of already somebody in arizona yeah i follow a girl um who is good friends with her and i think she's kind of like a fashion influencer girly but i think they're not really showing much of her personality right now because the storyline.

I think she might come out as like a leader of the trio of the friend group.

Like, I think she's going to have a big story arc.

And I also think Alandria, I think she's going to be a big

person.

Stunning.

Her, wait, her body during the day.

Also, the way that she's, she, she checked Jeremiah being like, are you not scared?

That he's like, yep, possessed.

Yeah, I think, I think though, I think Orlandria is going to have a big story arc.

I think she's going to get hurt and then maybe have a happy ending.

And I think that Charlie and Hannah, is that her name?

They're quiet right now.

I don't ever think they'll bring drama, but I think they like might be the couple.

I think they might last very, very long.

And like he might stay faithful to her and CASA more.

Like, I have faith for them, but listen, next week, it literally might be like him making out with every girl in the house, which he did when he walked in, which I also thought was like, what the hell?

Did you see Austin take a shower and then smell his underwear and wipe his face with it?

I didn't.

Okay.

I didn't.

I wish I didn't.

Or the IUD that fell out.

Oh my God.

People are so fucking stupid.

You know why that all means?

That was crazy.

You know what the IUD means no everyone everyone was talking about that yeah you know what that means what all that means is that they're the biggest show on reality tv right now that's like that's how bacher nation was like for a while when you had like when it's fans they're doing deep dive in these people's lives when would they would just look they would break down every scene of every show all that means is you're you're number one yeah like you know the fan base gets so intense so like they just they want they want to find anything to talk about when they like will screenshot an IUD and make such a big deal about it.

It was a piece of music.

Whatever it was.

Like just whatever it was.

Fall out.

That's going to be a brand partnership.

That is.

But I'm just saying it just it just it shows the success of the show and its hype because of the like just the interest.

You know, they're, they're paying that much attention to the show.

They're looking for anything to make something.

How many do you think is going to be not the underdog or like somebody who's going to like come up and have a moment?

I don't know.

I mean, I truly think Shelly is like the most loved right now.

Gorgeous.

I think because she's bisexual, she kind of like gives that.

Do you think she'll ever go for a girl?

That's what I want.

That's how

she has it.

Yeah.

I kind of want for her to go for a girl.

I mean, what, Sierra walked in and was like, I kissed all the guys.

Now it's time for me to kiss all of you.

I think Sierra's a star.

I think she's a star.

I think she's gorgeous.

Yeah.

I like her.

I don't think they've showed her personality yet, but I think she's going to like maybe this week have a moment where she pops off a little bit in a good way.

I was a little bummed to, and maybe as a show, but when Nick went back with Beldasha, I was a little bummed that Sierra didn't like make moves.

It's just like,

he's too beneath you, like to get all like all kind of desperate about it.

I hated that.

I hated how, and this is props to her.

I just hate how in the confessional, she was like, actually, it's like kind of pissing me off that he can't pick somebody.

But then to his face, she's like, you know what?

This is your journey.

Take your time.

And like, I, I respect it.

Honestly, i encourage it i was like i wanted her that was very people that was very like uh pick me and i don't think that's who she is at her core and i don't blame her for playing that because she's like i want him to pick me obviously like literally being on the show and being a pick me is the show like you want them to pick you um yeah i hated that i was like what are we doing because sometimes the guys like it when they're like okay well like if you're confused then like that's my answer so nick forgot that bell dasha existed until she started like getting attention from some of the other people even said it he's like i like when somebody's not into me Yeah.

I was like, oh, well, that, I mean, there we go.

That there's the formula.

There's the show.

All right.

I thought there was a second he was going to pick Beldasha just because it was like because he's with Sierra this week.

Yeah.

I think he would have picked Beldasha if it wasn't an elimination.

I can see that.

I can see that because he wanted to like see how that would pan out.

Yeah.

I think next, but also it's like next week, they're going to come in so guy heavy.

They're going to bring in like two bombshells because it's all been girls.

And like that's kind of how the formula goes.

They flip week to week of like.

I would love for them to bring in.

I think Jeremiah said that he was like attracted to Hispanic Latina women.

Yeah, like I would love for them to bring in a bombshell Latina woman and just see if Jeremiah will just lean any sort of way because it's it's I want to tell myself

the audience is reacting that way.

They're like, We want Jeremiah's head to turn where I'm like, Oh my god, like he's gorgeous, gorgeous, like for him

gorgeous.

I'm actually so sorry.

Every time he's on camera, I'm like, Jesus Christ.

No, he's striking.

Yeah,

he is like, he looks like an actor or somebody, and I couldn't put my finger on it.

But yeah, he's absolutely gorgeous.

Do you guys, do you think he's actually a good guy?

He seems like he is, which is...

There's no reason to think he's not yet.

I mean, the fact that he didn't kiss her back, the fact that he sat down and had that conversation with Amaya and was like, I'm going to go.

Like, he didn't lean, he didn't flirt.

He didn't lean in anything.

I don't think bad guys would have looked as uncomfortable as he looked at home base playing that game where he really looked like he was trying not to kiss one of the bombshells.

And

I feel like the scummy guys would have been at a bunch of games.

They would have leaned in and be like, let's just play the game.

It was a challenge.

What about like a wolf in sheep's clothing where it's like saying all the right things?

Like for me, I'm like, he's very possessive.

He clearly has.

How is he possessive?

They both are.

They're very much like, you're not going to talk to anybody.

It's day two and you're on Love Island.

It seems more like her driving.

I think think he started it a little bit and then once she got wind that he was possessive she was like oh i like any games

my only worry is like look up what happened with scandal ball it was a literal national

news story men know if i go on tv and fuck over a girl i'm done who people think is a fan favorite i am more than done

the thing that is great about love island until they bring in the games where they show the public's comments

you don't know who's a fan favorite because, like, it's lies, like, you know what I mean?

So, in his head, he might think, okay, like, she is a mom.

She's what if after he finds out that she's not, he's like, it so, but I also am with you guys.

I'm like, he doesn't seem like a good guy, but like you said, anything's possible.

I think that also one more thing I wanted to talk about when the sense of the game with the suitcases, with the answers, I think they definitely asked those questions during casting for sure.

Because that's why I think Austin's answers were so crazy.

Cause he was probably like, I'm gonna say all this shit to get on the show.

Do you know what I mean?

Because some of like the answers for all of them like didn't add up.

I'm like, this was definitely casting questions, and people played it safe or went completely outside of the box to get on the show.

100% Nick being confused, being like, wait, no, I for sure cheated.

Yeah, like I've never seen

that.

Also, not his like ex being like, that was about me.

And I knew he told me he didn't cheat on me.

How do you know it was you?

Five years later.

Like, it could be like a high school girlfriend, a middle school girlfriend.

And like the bodies of it all being like, how many people have you slept with?

Like, I mean, obviously, like, maybe I'm just like old, but I was kind of like, and I'm all for everybody, but I'm like, to say that on national TV, like with your family watching and stuff like that, like, I don't even have a good relationship with my family.

I was just like, this is like, TV's crazy.

Yes.

Like, none of your business is crazy.

Like, it's like, okay, so she, okay, yeah, she slept with 18.

18.

It's like, what's going on?

Like, this is like actually fucking crazy.

Like, and maybe I'm just like old now, but I was like, wow.

Like, I mean, and good for them.

Like, I'm not judging anybody's numbers, but I was like, the fact that like, this is what we are watching is entertainment, and we're like loving it.

But it played into the stereotype of how like men always like lie and they add numbers to their roster and women tend to like, you know, leave a couple.

Keep it safe.

Yeah.

Keep it safe.

Do you think it was a little risky of the producers to throw in the nude question given the controversy they had last season?

The new nudes question?

The way these fans like start like looking and I mean, for yeah, for Austin to be like thousands of nudes, that's just literally giving the audience like a chance to be like, that hit thousands of nudes nudes are out there.

I should go and look for my producer goggles.

We're not on for that one.

And you guys make an incredible point.

I, I, that has to be the scary.

That's, and I, I, you know, like, who here has said controversial tweets?

Like, how many of you guys have controversial tweets?

Like, it's like literally thousands.

All right, let's go find them.

Yeah.

As someone who

was born in reality TV, I have so much empathy for just like the, how difficult it can be to like come off these shows.

And it is infinitely more challenging coming out of Love Island because it's one thing to film a show, have the show wrap, go live your life, anticipate the show airing

three to 12 months later.

These people are become famous off the grid.

And that is

walk out to it.

And

it's not right.

It's kind of fucking, it's weird.

And it's just like, it's, it's scary.

It's almost, it's cool for them how popular the show is, but it's potentially very scary because it's, there's so many like clout chasers out there, all the exes, you know, everyone wants their moment.

They didn't do this on USA, but in UK last year, they you aren't allowed to post on your social media while you're in the house.

Like, you know how, like, now they have friends like running it so you can gain followers and stuff like that.

In the UK, they stopped allowing people to post on their social media pages during the show because it was getting like so much bullying and stuff like that.

But then also I was like, that's interesting because then like they'll come out inevitably like with less opportunity.

I don't know.

It was, it was interesting that they did that.

And I wonder if they'll ever get to a point in the USA where they do that.

Yeah, because I wonder if, like, they're maybe Huda's getting a lot of shit right now, but say, she makes it to the end and everyone loves her.

It's like she comes out and she had no idea that there was all that hate.

And she just comes to her.

And also, like, the hate can get, like, like you said, like insane,

insane.

And you walk out and you're like, okay, I was a waitress last week and now I'm literally like the

most hated woman on the internet.

Yeah.

It's also really early.

I think people forget that Leah caught early heat last season, season six, and she became

percent a huge fan favorite so it's so it's the formula it's the formula yeah did you ever watch bachelor so i watched bachelor um emily manner's season um i watched like early bachelor i watched your season because of the toast um

hated me then yeah you were in the basket of like the people hated then you had your redemption arc you know what's so funny speaking of the toast and nick is i reminded this came off of my 42 page

and it's nick i guess he has claudia on I got to tell Claudia.

Remind Claudia about that.

During the pandemic.

During the pandemic, he had like Claudia on.

It was via Zoom, whatever.

And Nick was like, he like asked her something about their friendship.

Like, yeah, like our friendship, something.

And she was like, it means so much to me.

Like, I honestly, like, it has changed my worldly view.

Like, I don't think I've ever had a friendship like this before in my life.

And I just like can't believe that we're friends.

And Nick was like, yeah, I mean, I feel the same way.

And it was like so clear that she was being sarcastic.

Nick was like, it was the pandemic.

I was just practicing gratitude.

I thought we all could die, you know?

But it's weird because, like, I'm the biggest reality TV person.

And, like, I don't really watch the bachelor.

Like, I'm very good friends with Gabby Wendy.

Like, we work together a lot.

I love her so much.

I went on her podcast.

I had no idea she was the bachelorette.

Like, I had no idea.

I thought she was on the show.

And then I was like, so, like, did you go on that show like wanting to get married or whatever?

She's like, I literally was the bachelorette.

I was like, oh, what?

I literally had no idea.

But, um, the only reason why I asked is because they are going through a bit of a potential rebrand.

They haven't been picked up.

They have their 30th.

How would you modernize the show?

So I don't know if I can say, I'm pretty sure I can say this.

A couple of years back, I met with people about this in the sense of, it was like for an interview with some people from like ABC being like, what, like, what do you think the show needs, essentially?

And I think I have a TikTok about it from like four years ago.

I was deep in my Love Island phase.

So I was like, I think you need to bring a little bit of a live aspect to it in the sense of like my idea was, so you know how sometimes they show like the first three people that are going to be on the show once they announce the bachelorette, like show the audience people who are going to be on the next season or whatever.

Yeah.

I think that there should be some sort of thing where the person who's the bachelor or bachelorette gets like a Tinder almost, and so does the audience.

It's like an app, and you like swipe left or right.

There's a little bio to say like who you want to be on the show or not.

And then the person does that.

And then like three weeks into the show, they bring in some of the people that the host, the bachelorette said that they wanted, or add some of the people that the audience wanted to see that wasn't there originally.

Like, I think there needs to be some sort of live aspect to it.

But at the same time, it's like, you could try to rebrand and reinvent the Bachelor Bachelorette, and people have said it's needed it for so long, obviously.

But then it's also like, will that really still be the Bachelor Bachelorette if it's fully reinforced?

I mean, we're on the same page.

We're talking about it.

It's kind of like let a dead dog lie, though, you know?

That's sometimes how I feel about it.

They're going to try.

We were talking about it about an hour before you showed up.

I think the lead needs to have some some kind of involvement in the casting.

I think the lead should have a phone throughout the season that's not their phone.

It's a show phone.

It's controlled by the phone.

When you're not on a date, someone could text them.

Yep.

Modernize it in a way instead of like showing you a bunch of people.

I like that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And like the lead has to has some say.

And like, I think they should cast 60, not 30, and allow these women to like go on, go online and start being characters online before they even show up.

So the audience gets invested in them.

I agree.

I said that for a minute too, because it's like, you should have a little bit of a say.

It doesn't need to be a full shock factor.

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

A little bit of breaking news.

Justin Baldoni's 400 million countersuit against Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds has been dismissed by the judge.

Pop off.

Kind of crazy.

That's insane.

Judge threw that.

Are you guys

very much Team Blake and Team Ryan?

Yeah.

So I am not as deep in it as somebody might think that I would be.

See, I am so bad with like propaganda, which is probably not like a good thing to say.

But like when I'm on TikTok and I see one TikTok on one person's sides giving all the facts, I'm like, wow, you know what?

Team thing.

And then I see the next deep dive and I'm like, oh my God.

Yes, literally.

So it's so hard.

It's also a very PR agencies getting involved to specifically trash other people's images.

I'm like, I have no idea what if what I'm seeing is real or not.

It's also a very toxic subject.

We've left it alone for a while because people are very, very opinionated on it.

And it's just been like not worth, like, we've been like, y'all know our stance.

I mean, my, my stance started when I interviewed Justin years ago.

And he's probably the, well, he's the only guest I ever had that I had a very visceral negative experience where I just felt like this, it was a fraudulent person.

It was just my, my opinion, my take.

And yeah, I just wasn't surprised.

And, and, uh, and then just, I think people are just ignoring, like I've said before, the claim was always sexual harassment, not sexual assault.

And you can making someone feel uncomfortable in the workplace is obviously

there's a spectrum of that.

But I think the real crime that people are completely ignoring was his response to that, which was the online, the team that he hired to go out and hire and have this very organized smear campaign that I think is a just a

very

elaborate.

and very kind of scary thing about like how

people can go after their accusers and the same way that you know that that that's a playbook as old as time but now that it's just an elevated playbook using the power of the internet which I think is very scary and you saw him do that and I think everyone's kind of ignoring that I want to know I don't know if it would be a documentary or like a scandal type show where they show the inner workings of those agencies doing that like that is just and it exists yeah and everybody in the industry knows this exists but the consumer is so blind to it which is like another another thing that I find extremely fascinating, especially ever since being in the public eye and kind of being on the back end of it.

Is like, and having my best friends from home who grew up in New Hampshire and Boston, when they speak about celebrities and bring things up, I'm like, oh, you don't get it.

Like, you don't, you read what the internet's like, you get what their PR team is trying to

put out there.

I'm like, it's just so interesting.

I mean, I have not dove into the

whole case fully, but I am interested to learn more about those techniques and that agency and how that works because imagine being the person who works on a pr team like that how how does one feel about themselves i don't know i mean that would be an interesting like kind of like how the studio has done this like deep dive and like how you make you know like how that industry is if there was some sort of show about the inner workings of the system big win for for ryan and blake and i think once this thing finally goes to court on the other side of thing thing, I still think that you're going to, the witnesses that are included in the original claim, I think a lot more will come forward.

And glad I was on that side in the things that I was from the beginning.

Robin, always fun and always a pleasure to have you.

Thanks for coming on.

Where can people find you?

It's so funny.

When I started Girl Boss Town, I never thought that I would be professionally known as a girl boss.

It's like literally the most cringy thing ever, but you know what I'm owning it.

So it's at Girl Boss Town on TikTok and Instagram, giving my pop culture commentary, my predictions.

I also do creative consulting on the back end.

Should we hire you?

I feel like maybe we need you.

Guys, I'm here.

But I have so much fun whenever I come on here.

You guys speak my language.

So thank you so much.

So fun to pick your love island brain to pop culture brain.

It's an honor to have you back.

Up next, we have the very hilarious Jim Jeffries and his wife.

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Just a little anecdotal story.

When Jim came here, he's promoting his new show that he's hosting on the snake on Fox.

His wife, Taisie, came with, she's a big reality TV fan.

And so we're like, do you want to sit on the couch and talk some reality TV with us?

And she came and she sat and we had a great conversation.

And somehow, someway, Taisie's father's name got brought up.

His name is Derek.

We were just talking names.

About their kids.

About their kids.

And sadly, and

I've talked with Tazy and asked if if it was okay to share the story but we found out after she she they left that tazy's father derek died of a heart attack while we were recording um that show and i only bring it up because it just reminds you just how short life is thoughts and prayers go to to tazy's family and and her father uh we love them and we love their family and uh just hug the ones that you love because you you just you never know jim jeffries

jim welcome back thanks for having me and you brought your lovely wife with you tazy my wife is a big fan of uh all things that you talk about in this show.

So she wasn't going to be on the air, she said she just wanted to come and watch.

Well, yeah, and then we were just like, well, sit on the couch.

You said you want to sit on the couch.

And she took it like that.

Oh, my God.

Yes, she was like, yes.

And she was down.

See you.

But to anyone who's passionate about what we're passionate about, we love to bring them on.

And obviously, you've been on before recapping The Bachelor with us.

Was it your wife who got you into The Bachelor for me and the wife got into The Bachelor?

It's weird because I had a joke about The Bachelor and I started saying to my wife, I started saying, oh, my my wife got me into the bachelor.

Neither of us watched it, but I had a joke because I'd watched one episode.

And my wife was like, why are you dragging me down with this trashy TV?

How dare you make me blah, blah, blah.

Then COVID happened and we watched like every season.

We felt that

ironically.

Yeah, ironically, we'll watch one episode.

That's how I ended up going on the show.

I was making fun of my buddy's wife.

who was watching it and I was like, why are you watching this stupid show?

And she's like, shut up.

I'm going to sign you up.

And I was like, ha ha ha ha ha.

And then it changed my life.

Oh.

now we're upset.

No, we've watched all the seasons.

Sometimes, if we have no TV to watch, we will go on Hulu and go, What season haven't we seen?

And be like, season six, 2008.

You know, and we'll watch it.

It's in black and white.

No, no, they're better than those episodes because no one wants to get followers.

No one, like, there's no podcast to be had or anything like that.

Everyone's legitimately looking for love.

It's weird.

It's kind of creepy.

Psychotic.

Well, you are here because you are hosting a new reality TV show called The Snake on Fox, which premieres tonight at 9.

It does.

Very excited about that.

Obviously, we're going to talk to you about some other reality TV in general, but let's.

I think, look, I was doing another game show in Australia and I got the phone call and they said, Fox wants you to host a game show in America that's going to film in Argentina in six days' time.

And I was finishing, and I said, look, I don't finish here for eight days.

And then they went, all right, you can come out in eight days type of thing.

So I flew out to Argentina.

I really just think that I got the job because the show's called The Snake and this accent.

Think of it.

Yeah, has there ever been another Australian game show hosted in American TV history?

Honestly, I don't think Americans can say the word snake.

I had to go

to the bottom.

Who's gonna be the snake this week?

Who's gonna be the this this week?

And all type of stuff, right?

Couldn't be an American.

And I think they thought that maybe I had a little bit of the Steve Irwins about me that I could just pick him up and go, I've got a snake.

But

I'm as scared of snakes as anyone else.

Was that like a letdown for them?

Did they find that out later?

There are physical snakes in the show occasionally.

They're not common.

It's not every episode with a snake.

The idea of the show is that there's a snake medallion.

You want to be the snake.

The snake isn't the bad person.

The snake changes each week.

And so you win competitions to become the snake.

And then the snake has.

extra voting power and extra control.

So it's a social game.

So if you're the snake, all the other housemates start sucking up to you that week.

because you have to be nice to the snake.

If you're on the bad side of the snake, you're out of the show.

So the snake is like a bit of false friendship.

They wield all the power.

They wield all the power.

The snake wields all the power.

And I have to give people the medallion.

I have to hold the medallion.

I got this medallion that I hold up and go, who wants this medallion?

I really take it very seriously.

I've seen the promo.

I haven't seen the first episode, but what really drew me is like the show seems to lean into like old school tropes of characters.

Like how Bachelor, when they had the cast, it was like the the pilot, the engineer.

You guys have a pastor?

We have a pastor who's wearing the outfit.

Yeah, wears the collar.

He just wears the collar.

We have a cop who's wearing like a bulletproof vest all the time.

Like she comes out, like not when they're in the house, but when they're doing contestant games.

We have an OnlyFans creator.

She's just wearing nothing.

So we have an OnlyFans creator.

We have a cop.

We have a detective.

I tell you, the detective,

look, look, I'm a heterosexual fella, but something for the mums, I I tell you.

Handsome fella, Cook Derek.

I'm just chilling you out there.

Nice guy.

I tell you what, I liked all the contestants in the end.

To begin with, there's such a distance between being the host and the contestants where you don't really see them.

They all hang out with each other.

You see them at the challenges and the voting ceremonies and what we call it the saving ceremony in this show.

But over the course of the weeks of the show, I actually got quite fond of all of them.

So there wasn't any one that you were rooting for to win?

Yeah, there's people I wanted to win.

Look, I had me favorites, but I wouldn't say it.

I'm not my mother.

I'm not going to tell you in front of your brothers.

What did you think of the pastor?

Because I saw that and I immediately, like, my spitey senses go up because I think like men, women of God, like they wield so much power because in their communities, people look to those people as.

you know, therapists sometimes.

Like they're like the closest connection between themselves and God, you know?

And so I'm like a pastor who wants to be famous.

Like at first, I had the initial, and I said this to him, I said, said, I have a repulsion towards people wearing that outfit.

I'm not, I'm an atheist.

I just don't like priests and stuff like that.

I find it creepy.

And also, we all know it's going on in the Catholic Church and all that type of stuff.

New Pope.

So I have an initial like, ugh, to the whole situation.

And I said it to him.

I said, I said, mate, I said, I said,

ordinarily, I don't really like people like you or I avoid people like you, but I think you're a really nice guy.

He was a really sweet guy.

And me and him connected on the same level.

We're both dads.

He's got a two-year-old daughter.

I've got a three-year-old son.

You know what I mean?

So we sort of talked on that face level.

Is your kid watching Bluey?

You know what I mean?

And then once we got to that level, and I just chatted to him, he was a solid ass dude, man.

He's a good guy.

Pastor Jacob, I vouch for Pastor Jacob.

Pastor Jacob's solid.

Pastor Jacob's a solid ass dude.

How did he get along with the OnlyFans?

Any conversation?

They were tagging the whole time.

There's a lot of bloopers.

There's a a lot of stuff a lot of blurs so much

it's it is weird because because the the show has an aspect of the big brotherness of people living in a house you go into a room and there's you know you know from the bachelor there's like must be 80 screens 80 cameras that are all playing at the same time i'm in argentina the only tv is spanish speaking television and stuff like that That became my TV each day.

I'd wake up in the morning and I'd text one of the producers, what happened last night?

Are they all getting along?

Who's not getting along?

Did they resolve that conflict?

I got really

into the gossip of all these people and how they were all getting along and all type of stuff.

And you know, there's a little bit of not to ruin anything, but there's a bit of romance that goes on in the show.

There's a little bit of that.

There's a bit of romance in there.

There's a bit of competitive.

There's a bit of skullduggery.

There's a bit of underhandedness because it's a tagline for the show is it's a show about making friends and faking friends.

You have to get along.

If you don't get along with everyone, you're not getting through.

So there were certain elements elements of the show that uh i didn't get to see so i'm looking forward to seeing it myself tazi are you gonna watch too or i will watch i was just thinking that when he said that you have to pretend to like people it's like our marriage it's like our marriage but also you wouldn't be good at that at all and i wouldn't be good at that at all pretending i show disdain very easily

i can't hide it on my face if there's drama i'll watch it no there'll be a bit of drama there's a bit of competition there's like uh there's there's like there's tough people who turn out to be pussies in certain situations.

And there's people who you think are weak who turn out to be strong in other situations.

Like those sort of challenges where maybe you have to eat something or there's some, you know, you have to do something gross, that sort of fear factory type of thing.

You can tell a lot about people during those moments.

Tezy, is there a show you'd like to see Jim on as a contestant of reality?

No, as a contestant, okay, I don't know much about contestant shows.

It's more just, oh my God, I always say to him, I want him to be on The Bachelor.

I'm like, just go on The Bachelor.

You have a free pass to kiss some ladies.

I just want to watch you on it and see you like,

I'm too old for the bachelor and too young for the golden.

I'm too young for the golden.

I think I go on the golden.

They can make a middle ground.

What about Traders?

You guys watch Traders.

I'd love to be on Traders.

I want to be on Traders.

We're big Trader watchers, love Traders.

We watch the British version and the Australian version and the American version.

The British celebrity version coming out right now, because you know, you have all the reality stars in the American version.

No, but the English one doesn't have celebrities.

No, but there's an English celebrity one that's coming out that just announced the celebrities and they're massive British celebrities.

These aren't like B list.

In Britain, these are A list celebrities

who are doing the British one.

I think they're trying to elevate the American version.

Don't elevate it too much.

I could possibly get into this one.

If they make it too big, I can't get into it.

I need to just get in this one.

But they don't really have comedians and stuff.

And I don't know why, because they always want to put like, you know, the Boston Robs of this world, the good game players and stuff.

In the British one, they're having like Jonathan Ross, who's the equivalent of David Letterman in Britain.

He's the number one tonight show host he's doing.

Alan Carr and all these other different British celebrities who British people would know.

Big guy, big deals.

But big deal type of people.

But I think we've told you this before.

We're friends with Lisa Vanderpump.

Right.

I would like to do, and I met her through a podcast and we've become close friends.

We go over to the house to have Villarosa for dinner and she comes to my shows.

She comes to my shows and just shows up and just watches the gigs.

Her, you know, her and Ken just show up.

So would you want to do traders with her?

I would like to do something with Lisa on TV.

I would like to do, I always say that Lisa's the Martha Stewart to my Snoop Dogg.

Or maybe I'm the Snoop Dogg to I'm the Martha Stewart to her Snoop Dogg.

But we're an unlikely pairing.

Maybe she could put you in the revamp of Vanderpump.

Oh, yeah.

You could be like

the bartender who gives like sage advice.

Yeah.

The Australian bartender, or in England, all bartenders are Australian.

That's not such a thing here, right?

Yeah, yeah, well, no, it's not a thing here, yeah.

It's very racist of you to be aware of it.

Sorry, sorry, I was very racist.

Um, but

yeah, I could do, I could, I don't know, what would I do?

Would that feel like kind of

I told you the story about Jackson?

All that that happened to me on band of pump rules.

Say it again, okay.

So, this is before I met my lovely wife.

This is many years ago.

Um, I was in, there was, I was in the improv comedy club and I was drunk.

I was still drinking back then, so I was drunk.

And I was standing at the bar drunk and

they had Jax and someone else and two other people and one of the friends of theirs was doing stand-up for the first time.

And that was the episode that they were going to be watching stand-up type of thing, right?

They were in the bar section of the improv and they were having a conversation.

But every time they sort of, you know, had the conversation, everyone in the bar had to be quiet because, you know what I mean?

And so, so all us comics were sort of staying at the bar like they were coming into our fucking territory.

And I was drunk and belligerent about the whole thing, right?

And so, uh, so I said, I don't want to be on camera in the background because I could see the camera was on me.

And the guy was like, Don't worry about it.

You're not on camera.

I'm like, I know what it looks like to be on camera.

That camera is pointing right at me.

Pointing right at me.

I said, I don't want to be in this thing, right?

So I could have moved out of the way.

And they go, you're not on camera.

I said, okay, great.

So I turned back to the bar and I dropped my pants.

So my ass was showing in the background of the shot, right?

And I just had my ass hanging out.

I was just standing at the bar having a drink with my ass hanging out like this, right?

And then Jax was like this.

Can we get this guy out of here, please?

Can we get this guy out of here?

And I'm like, oh, dude.

He's one to talk.

He's known for constantly showing his ass on television.

Oh, man.

Did he kick you out?

No, you can't.

I'm the only person who gets me kicked out of comedy clubs.

I'm a comedian.

You can't

kick a comedian out.

You can't kick a comedian out of the improv.

Right?

And so the whole production thing shut out.

We got into a big fight, and they had to leave the improv.

They got kicked out because I went and then I had to apologize to the improv.

Sorry for causing you trouble and I shouldn't have been an asshole and the thing.

I was so, so I was in trouble, but they backed me up, which was very nice of them.

But I was being a dickhead.

Wow.

Have you seen Jackson's?

No, but I told Lisa that story and I think she found the footage.

She had someone actually go through it.

This is how me and Lisa became mates.

I told her this story.

She's like you are.

And I don't think she was that fond of Jacks at the time.

And I think so she was happy.

She thought I was cool.

Look, she liked, you know, Lisa, she likes a bit of, she likes troublemakers.

She's a troublemaker.

She does like troublemakers.

She's a troublemaker.

So me and her, me and her get a kick out of each other.

Would you do special forces?

Man.

I watched you.

I contacted you afterwards, right?

I was so impressed by you guys.

Thank you.

I was so impressed by you on that that show.

And the answer is no.

No, I don't have the mental fortitude for that.

I don't, I just don't, I'm not fit.

I'm not yet.

Like, I looked at the people my age doing it, right?

I'm a bit older than you, right?

Now, who was it?

The

guy off Beverly Hills 92, Brian Austin Gray.

Yeah.

Right.

And he was just like.

First day, he's like, I'm fucking out of here.

Yeah.

I think I'm too old.

I think I'm too old to go through it.

Would you do it again in 10 years?

I would would like to think i well in 10 years maybe i would try because like i did it this time one my wife was like i i think it would be sexy and i was like okay all right would it be sexy if i did it or embarrassing what now or in 10 years no now i'm not doing it in 10 years i'm dead in 10 years

i i would find it hot you do yeah like but i also

i just found out natal was pregnant with her our daughter and i used it as kind of like do i still like can i still do this You know, I used to compete in athletics back in the day, and I haven't done shit like that.

So, like, in 10 years, I'll wonder again, like, what do I still got?

Like, because it's, it's really not about physical.

I mean, it is to a certain extent, but it's about like not quitting.

I think I can do the not quittingness of it, but I don't think being dunked in water, you know,

I would panic.

There were things I'd panic in, yeah, but I was so impressed.

We watched the whole thing, we were a good show, yeah, it was a good show.

And uh, I look, I don't know about who's the guy that had the affair on Van

Sandoval.

I think he's an all right dude.

And she sits there like that going, oh, no, I never.

But saying that, we watched him in Traders after that, right?

Did you still think he was an all right dude in Traders?

I just thought he was thick in Traders.

I still think he's a good dude.

He's, but I think

any child.

No, he's not harmless.

He's a weirdo.

He's eccentric.

We disagree on a lot of, like, you know, he has a moral compass.

I have a different one.

But like.

He has a moral compass i have none

well he his is very his is very unique you know i think most people don't subscribe to his way of life so to speak you know what you're getting with him and he's not clever enough to be that calculated right and it's just like that's what i was saying i i maybe think was a harsh term right what i meant was when he was on the show traders he was um

he was he was like oh i think it's that person yeah if he said it you think it was that person it was never that person never that person he was never on the right scent not once

Yeah.

So

he's not the devil that he was.

He made a terrible mistake.

He did a bad thing.

You know, he had a hard time taking accountability.

I've met worse people.

And I was.

Oh, yeah.

There's, you could do far worse than him, I think, as a friend.

That's my take meeting him.

All right.

We'll be friends.

Yeah.

What does thick mean?

Dumb thick.

Thick, dumb, dumb.

A little ditzy.

Thick.

Yeah.

Thick as a brick is the term.

Thick as a brick is the term, yeah.

You're friends of the valley.

I am.

I'm a little behind.

That's okay.

On a high level, we don't have to get into like play-by-play of the episodes, but speaking of like who I think you could do worse by, Jax, obviously, but like Jesse right now, Jesse, like to me, he seems like an emotional terrorist to his ex-wife, Michelle.

Yeah, that's a real tricky one.

And people, on Watch What Happens Live, Andy was like, would you rather be divorcing Jax or Jesse?

And everyone's like, oh, I'd rather be divorcing Jesse, but he does seem like a tricky guy to be getting divorced to.

Yeah.

He wants to emotionally torture the mother of his child in a way that, like, Jax.

So does Jax.

Like, the texts he sends Brittany, like, he doesn't stop.

That man is.

Yeah, I think they're both terrible options.

It's like, would you rather have someone shit on your face or like rub it all over your body?

All over your body.

You can conjunctive artists.

I would rather.

What are you talking about?

He's like, easy answer.

I would rather be divorcing Jesse.

I think he would be an easier option.

But yeah, I think he still loves her.

And it's all because he's still in love with her, don't you think?

Or you think his ego is so shot that she moved on so fast?

He just romanticizes him away.

I don't want to give him that.

Okay, we won't do that.

We won't do that.

But I think

all his ego is just really, really hurt that she left him and therefore he's making her.

I think Michelle would say, if he loved me so much, why did he treat me so shitty while we were married and like never gave me attention or like kind of like acted as if like I was invisible you know and now that she doesn't want to be with him yeah now yeah now he loves her okay yeah so you're right it's not love it's just he still wants her he wants to be on his terms yeah if they end it or not yeah it's got to be brutal though I'd have been co-parenting with a young with a young child you know and

starting to date other people yeah oh my god and then you have to know your child's around someone else but and they both seem to be

we do that we do that now lives.

Yeah, but we got lucky.

We have like your the mother of your first child is what a wonderful human being.

Right.

We got really lucky.

And well, that's the thing.

They seem to be using their people they're dating as a way to piss off the other person.

Like it's like everyone deserves to move on and

find love again, but it's, it gives, it's like an icky feeling watching them.

It's like you wouldn't wish that on your worst enemy.

No, no, no, no, no.

No, that type of divorce with a, with a young child.

It's tough.

And same with Jax and Brittany.

You wouldn't wish that divorce on anyone.

The stuff that Jax is able to just say is the most mind-boggling thing.

I mean, when they were like, Jax, you've called her fat, you've called her this.

He's like, listen, what do you mean, fat?

I'm attracted to that type of body type.

It's like, what?

It's just like that type of body type.

Like, so clearly, it's something that, like,

okay,

he's just, he's so toxic.

It's for, do you get, do you guys get into into Love Island at all?

Not really.

Even with the UK, you know, because it's starting in the UK.

I know.

So an English version from forever ago, which Molly May was on, I watched and I was so into, but since then I haven't.

My 83-year-old father watches the Australian Love Island or the American one or something.

He watches one of them.

We were with him for Christmas.

And he goes, oh, no, no, no, leave that show on.

Now.

It's because my dad can't access the internet.

So this is the closest he gets to porn.

Oh, yeah.

And it is very close to porn.

It it is very close

he's found this show with girls in bikinis right and he's all over it he's in his 80s and he goes oh no that one's all right she's all right but this one gives this one the ick

okay

like someone's learnt some words it's also on like every single night so he constantly has something to watch yeah yeah i bet he loves it yeah there's like wet slow motion slip and slide scenes and like slap dances dirty old man tv all day all day that's funny did he give you like the breakdown, like his favorites?

No, he literally was like, I just leave this one on.

Oh, that one's, this one good.

This one's a bad person.

This one's a good person.

Oh, she's all right.

They give her a hard time for no reason.

There was always one that he fancied that they give you a hard time for no reason.

I don't know if it was, I think it was an Australian version.

I don't know.

Is there any Australian version?

I think it was an Australian.

There is an Australian version, yeah.

Yeah, Australia always trots out something.

I would like to be the host of the Australian Bachelor because I've always thought the Bachelor is the greatest.

Okay, there's certain game show hosting jobs.

So the 1% club, you have to read questions and all that type of stuff.

And I was, I'm telling you off here, that I once cost the show $100,000 because I just read a question badly and I had to read it again and it gave them an extra 10 seconds, which actually made them win the money.

Right.

Did you get it?

Like, did you get a lecture for that?

Or did you?

I just was, you know, when you stuff up at work and so you're really helpful?

You just walk around like this.

Anyone need a coffee?

I'm going to go.

You're so nice.

Yeah, you're so nice to everybody.

You got a new haircut?

You You know,

that's my nightmare because I'm dyslexic too.

And like, I get hosting opportunities.

And every time I have to read a teleprompter, I'm always like, guys, just like a heads up.

I'm this won't go.

It does get better.

Doing the Jim Jeffrey show back in the day was like just reading a teleprompter for 30 minutes, right?

And I would rehearse it through the week and then I'd sit at home the night before and I'd actually go through it so like a script so that I actually could perform it like stand-up, right?

Yeah.

But doing the game show, I can do the chatting thing, doing the audience thing, and then when I have to read the questions, so I always turn around and the questions on the 1% club are always things like,

if Jane's on a train and it's traveling at four miles an hour and it's four o'clock in the afternoon and da-da-da-da-da, which country is she in?

Well, she's still in Sydney because these other things are inconsequential, Jane, you know, this type of thing, right?

So, but sometimes you turn around.

This is my favorite.

You turn around to read the question.

Okay, the next question is.

What number is next in this sequence?

I'm over the moon.

And that question comes up once an episode.

I'm like, oh, I have a break.

You have have 30 seconds to answer.

Your time starts now.

And then when people get the questions wrong, I have to tell them they're stupid after I've read it wrong in front of them.

So

that's a harder job.

I could never do a show with like a speed round.

You have 30 seconds on the clock, your questions start now.

That's over.

I'll just be like this.

Bus.

Bus.

So deal or no deal.

That's a winner.

One question.

One question.

Deal or no deal.

And just chatting.

There's no teleprompter deal or no deal.

That's a killer game to host, right?

Is it cake?

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, I could host Is it Cake?

There's a lot of thinking in Is It Cake.

So I've got, is it cake, deal or no deal, but the bachelor, having to walk out and just go,

ladies,

there's one more roast.

And then you just sort of duck away.

Just kind of let them know how to count.

Yeah, you just,

yep.

I know you all see it.

That's the end.

But doing the snake was weird because you did challenges and they were the only bits where I sort of wasn't sort of

doing sort of the company line speech where it's like you have to hit these marks at this spot.

During the challenges, you just commentate like you're watching sport.

You know,

someone's swimming through fish guts and you're like this.

All right, James in the front.

Oh, Jordan's coming up from behind.

It's like a horse race.

Yeah, that's fantastic.

That's just a bit of fun doing that.

Speaking of The Bachelor,

they put Paradise on pause last season and Bachelor in Paradise is premiering, I think, early July, something like that.

Why did they put it on pause?

What happened?

Well, they've had some drama going on internally, I think.

And I think also, it just wasn't successful.

And I think they wanted to revamp it.

They're shooting it in Costa Rica, where they've normally shot it in Mexico.

I think they're bringing some of the golden people down.

So I think it's going to be different.

And I think they're going to maybe, you know.

What's the health care like in Costa Rica for the Golden Bachelors?

That's a great question.

We're going to

need good insurance for that.

That's a great question.

Yeah.

We filmed the snake snake in Argentina, and we were in a place called Iguazu, and Iguazu is like,

there's a place called the Iguazu Falls, and it's where Paraguay, Brazil, and Argentina meet.

And

there's the Piranha River.

And this is the biggest drug smuggling river on earth because it's international water.

And those three countries can meet together for the cocaine and get it out into open waters.

And so, like, we were just like, the locals were like, yeah, that's a drug boat there.

And there was one time I was just watching the river.

There was a bloke just carrying drugs down to the boat.

So I bought a big bag, and this is happening.

But it's um, yeah, it's, it's uh, it was pretty cool.

But the waterfalls there, like, leave Niagara Falls to shame.

They're beautiful, stunning.

And the beginning of the show, we start at the waterfalls, everyone's coming in in crates and stuff.

It's all very fun, it's exciting stuff.

Wow,

so visually beautiful as well.

It's visually beautiful.

The set we had was unbelievable.

It felt like Indiana Jones or something like that.

Like it wasn't a set.

They'd built like structures in the jungle for the challenges and stuff like that.

It was pretty cool.

But

if I ever eat an epanada again, it'll be too soon.

I've had too many.

I had so many epanadas.

That's the only thing I could eat.

This whole idea of Argentinian cuisine, everyone's like, oh, Argentina.

Oh, the food, the food.

It's just...

a sauce, chimichuri.

That's all they've got.

They go, have you tried the steak?

Yes.

In every country in the world, cook steak.

You're not doing anything exciting.

So you've slice it up and it's on a wooden board.

You put some chimichurri on the side.

It's just a sauce that's carrying all the weight of their cuisine.

But the epanatas are all right, but you can't have too many.

Do you ever, like, when he's doing bits, I've been obviously to Jim's stand-up.

It's incredibly funny.

Sometimes he tells a colorful joke that might make some people cringe.

About her?

He's even put you in the stand-up.

He says brutal things about how does that, how does that work?

Does he run these bargains

in my in my news special i ask everyone in america if they see her walking down the street to yell at uh racist homophobe and and and we were in vegas we were in vegas last week last weekend and he and he did that bit so we were walking through the casino and i had a bunch of people shouting racist homophobe i was like people are gonna think i'm legit a racist well they they were pointing at us of course they assume it's me and not the brown woman come on they're not gonna think so they're not gonna think that you're the racist.

When he's doing his stand-up, like practicing, you don't comment on any of the material being like, honestly, that one's not that funny.

You shouldn't be.

No, good God, no.

And also, he runs jokes by me sometimes and I don't laugh.

And he's like, you don't get it.

She can't see stand-up if I just tell her a bit.

Yeah.

A lot of people can't.

We normally ring up other comics.

But when it's on stage, obviously, yes.

Right.

When you go, oh, this is a bit, because it's not a joke per se, it's a bit.

And so I run them past them, but no.

But also, also, look, when I was younger and single, my stand-up was about one-night stands and taking drugs and revelry, right?

And now I'm married with kids.

The comedy has to come from somewhere.

So we all have to earn a living here.

So I have to...

That's why everyone's like, my wife jokes or my mother-in-law jokes, because where else do the jokes come from?

That's true.

So you've got to go after him.

I'm not offended at all.

It doesn't bother me like he says really brutal stuff and

and we're still here and we're still here it was true i did a routine in my last special about when when she was pregnant and she said uh she actually know that did bother me a little bit the thing

i think i saw that spell about me looking like et when i was pregnant and not wanting to me i'm allowed to say

what joke are you talking about i was talking about the joke when you you were pregnant and you were at the baby shower and you said to your friends that you didn't want to have a white baby you said yes I hope the baby's not white.

I hope it's a brown baby.

But he left out the reason.

He left out the reason.

I wanted my baby to be on the browner side because we live in LA where there is a lot of sun and I want some sun.

I'm careful about yes.

I don't want to have to worry about it.

Yeah, because Jim gets burns like a...

Whatever the saying is for someone that burns quickly.

I'm a pale guy.

You're a pale guy.

So that was the reasoning behind that.

Did your baby come out white or brown?

He's pretty white.

He came out so white.

And I wanted to give him an Indian first name, and Jim was like, no,

because.

You don't have an Indian first name.

Why all of a sudden?

I just wanted him to have an Indian first name, but he's super white, so it would have been white.

What name did you want to give him?

Rajendra.

Razendra.

I can't say that.

It's my dad's middle name.

Then your dad should have had it as a first fucking name.

True.

Her father's first name is Derek.

True.

Okay.

Right.

And his middle name's Rajendra.

Right.

And so she wanted to call our kid Rajendra.

I went, all right, let's see.

Raj.

Maybe Raj would have been so.

What did you go with?

Charlie.

Very white.

Yeah.

Charlie White was his middle name.

When you say Charlie, it's very charming.

My last name, Dan Raj, my real last name, and then his real last name, Nugent.

Because I have, my real last name is Nugent.

I use my middle name as a stage name.

And so it got confusing.

So I didn't know what to name my kids, whether to give them my real name, because none of the, my wife didn't take my name.

So all of us would have different names.

So my children have my stage name.

I mean, is that arrogant?

I think that's pretty.

If I wasn't,

well, I got famous from going on The Bachelor, and then so my last name got out.

But if I knew I could have a stage name, I definitely wouldn't, I would have changed it for sure.

Yeah.

Your last name wouldn't be Files?

No, it wouldn't be Vile.

Vile's a good name, though.

You know, it's fine.

You know, sometimes it's vile, but like a lot of time when I'm like, that's so vile.

And it's, it's, you know, it's a triggering for me.

So your kids didn't get Nugent.

They got Jeffrey.

They got Jeffries, yeah.

Honestly,

yeah, I feel like

you're so famous that like if they weren't Nugent, they would be like, your dad's not Jim Jeffries.

Your last name's Nugent, you know?

It would be like made fun of.

Yeah, and also, okay, so my real name is Jeffrey James Nugent, and I changed it to Jeffrey James for about three gigs, and then I changed it to Jim Jeffries, right?

And the first time I ever went on, Jeffrey with a G, right?

The first time I ever went on stage, the guy went, welcome to the stage,

Godfrey Nuggant.

Oh, no.

The N-U-G-E-N-T.

Godfrey Nuggant.

There's not even a D in my name.

Like, where did you get Godfrey?

Godfrey Nugant.

And I thought, Godfrey Nugget's not a good stage name.

Not a good stage name.

It's not easy to say Godfrey Nuggant.

So you have a three-year-old son.

We have a 15-month-old daughter.

What has been your favorite age, like, period?

Because like our daughter's really getting into like, she's starting to like say words.

She's walking.

It's really fun.

But like, I always had a favorite stage.

I also have the 12-year-old.

So I can tell you all the way up to 12 what the favorite stage is.

I truly believe the best age with kids is three to five.

And you can have a conversation with them.

It doesn't matter if they're good at school yet.

It doesn't matter because those stresses come.

Yeah.

Right.

Also, it doesn't matter how they're doing socially because at three, you decide they're friends.

We're going over to the house, and Patty will be there.

Yeah, you know what I mean?

Like, you make the play dates with your friends and their kids, right?

Or they go to preschool and they meet a couple of kids or whatever.

So, socially, you don't have to worry about them, education-wise, you don't have to worry about them.

They're still discovering things like our kid is going to Disneyland for his fourth birthday, and it's miles away, he won't shut up about it, right?

And that little bit of those little bits of magic don't happen really after six, right?

And also, um, and we all know you know like Santa Santa Santa's the greatest thing in the world man

and and my kids are really into Santa and and I love it both of them well yeah yeah of course we all believe in Santa man Santa's important Santa's important

I just wondered if the because this has happened in my family where like the older siblings think it's cool to like ruin everything for the younger siblings.

Oh no,

our oldest is like

so cute with three-year-old and like wants to keep that magic alive.

He actually did Elf on the Shelf for him last year.

Elf on the Shelf is realistic.

What are you doing?

What are you doing?

Elf on the Shelf is very real.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I love it.

Elf on Shelf.

If he's listening, Elf on the Shelf is the best, newest thing to come out in the last 20 years, I reckon.

What's your Elf's name?

He has.

I don't know.

He's just Elf on the Shelf.

Named him?

No, he sneaks into the house.

I didn't know you were supposed to name him.

Oh my gosh.

Charlie's supposed to name him.

Oh, no, no, he hides in different parties.

And then it's like, where's

Bobby?

Where did Bobby come today?

It gets all excited.

We'll call him Agendra or whatever.

He's a Godfrey Nugent.

Godfrey Nugent.

How did you guys meet?

Roy.

Roya.

We both looked at each other in July.

We didn't look at each other in July because it's so uncool.

She slid into my DMs.

And at first, I don't know what you used to say, but I was just, I had to be like, just tell people you slid into my DMs.

It's fine.

It's, you know,

it sounds so fucking.

Well, it's, it's nice.

You, it's nice.

You like, like you met each other, like you were obviously attracted to him, so you wrote to him.

And I thought

we, we went on riot, we went on a date and we actually just lived like 500 meters away from each other.

And I think, I think she wouldn't have gone on more dates with me if I wasn't so accessible.

Because, you know, LA traffic, you know, you don't want to drive across town for a shag, right?

Right.

Santa Monica.

Because I was local, she was like, I'll give him another go.

And actually, I was very impressed because she hardly drinks and I don't drink at all anymore.

It's coming up to

four and a half years now without a drink.

And I just finished an episode of the Jim Jeffery show.

It was on a Tuesday.

And I always, that was always my Friday, right?

So I'd always get drunk after the show, do a podcast, get drunk.

And then I went out with a few of the crew members.

Now, I had written to her and text and we'd organise the date and then she hadn't written to me forever.

And I, like the old man that I am, I always like to have a phone chat before the date.

Oh, you like a little check-in?

I like to see if you've got some banter, if you can chat.

If it's all prepared texts that you've thought about, whether I can actually vibe with you.

And then if I can't, I might cancel the date.

You know what I mean?

All of a sudden you're sick.

Yeah, I'm busy or whatever.

Actually, anyway, but her being a millennial.

No, this is not true.

This is not true.

Okay, she's Generation X.

She just

okay, stop.

No,

this is not true.

He's going to say I ghosted his calls and didn't answer because

no, where I lived in the hill, she had no service.

The service, so a text came through, but I didn't get phone calls through.

And I didn't know.

You still got a missed call.

You could have called me.

No, I really didn't.

I really didn't.

Did you try to FaceTime audio her?

I tried to ring her about four times.

It rang out.

She didn't answer.

I assume the date wasn't happening.

I was like, okay.

I know I've I've overplayed me hand here.

I've rang too many times.

I've

got four times that.

It's kind of like a hand.

Yeah, but we were chatting and texting and stuff and nothing was happening.

And then, so I got drunk.

I was out with all the guys from the show, right?

A group of blokes, right?

And

she's like, hey,

we're still on for this date.

And I'm like, I've been calling you.

I haven't been responding.

So I assume that the date wasn't happening.

And then she's like, no, I've done my hair and blah, blah, blah.

And I went, I've done my makeup.

I've shaved my legs.

I'm going.

Yeah, I've done my makeup and I've shaved my legs, right?

And I said,

well, I'm drunk.

I just said, I'm drunk, right?

I'm drunk right now.

Honestly.

I've been drinking since the middle of the day and I'm drunk.

Right.

And then she went, all right, I'll take a couple of shots of tequila to catch up and I'll meet you.

And we met at the den on sunset.

Oh, wow.

Right.

Where I was drinking with people.

And I was like, all right.

And then we had a little snog at the bar, like 30 minutes into the date.

So it all worked out.

Is that kiss?

Yeah, a little snog, yeah.

You don't call it it a snog, no, that's a British.

Australia has a term for kissing

that's really having a pash.

Oh, love that, yeah.

We're having a pash, pash, obviously, short for passionate, of course, but um, but uh, I like rash, and you get pash rash from the beard.

Oh, yeah,

I even think I heard the term pash in bluey recently, wasn't there an episode?

Maybe, okay, I don't know smoochy kiss, they say,

I like smoocher.

The last gig we all saw each other at was uh, the Bob Sagart Benefit.

Yeah.

Yeah, the Bob Sagart Benefit.

That was a cool gig, man.

That was cool.

Like, like John Mayer was playing.

Yeah.

And everyone, like, like Jeff Ross, who I adore, was up there.

And he spoke so tenderly of Bob.

And Kelly Bobbs' ex was.

I met her on Special Forces.

That's how I met her.

Oh, right.

Right.

Yeah.

And she's lovely.

Lovely.

She's lovely.

And it's like,

you know what?

It's funny.

I never met, I was friends with Bob for years.

Bob had, um,

even during COVID, had come over to my house a couple of times, and I knew he had a wife.

Um, and we had a dinner plan on the books when Bob died, and so that was like we were having dinner in a couple of weeks with him and his wife when Bob died.

Oh, that's true.

And so, that was the first thing we were meant to be having dinner, and she didn't know, but I was like, We did, I can find the text, yeah, it's in my calendar.

But I miss Bob.

Bob was a Bob was a very very sweet man.

Very kind,

lovely man.

Funny as all balls.

I mean, there's so

my biggest takeaway from knowing a lot of people who knew him, I never got a, I met him once briefly, but just in passing.

But I hope, I don't think I'll ever be this case because I think plenty of people have negative things to say about me.

But no one says anything bad about Bob.

All I can say is

no, he was always on.

Sometimes that irritates people.

He was always funny.

And some people don't like that.

I I like that.

I like people who are always funny.

I mean, if you're if you're actually funny, yeah, yeah, it's only annoying when you're not.

I had a sitcom in FX years ago, and he was in the episode.

Kerry Fisher was in the episode, and I did a scene with Kerry Fisher and Bob Sagart, which no one's going to do that again.

No one,

it's a big deal.

Because we're Star Wars people, the whole it was before the Me Too movement, and you can check this episode out, but it was

from a story.

I had an executive in the industry many years ago slightly me to like do the me too movement to me

yeah we're sort of i i i i got i got i got passed on not passed on i got past that she passed

she made a pass at me that's what i'm going for i've forgotten how i've forgotten how to talk anyway she made a pass at me and so i wrote an episode about this whole thing but kerry fisher in this episode looks at me and says will you lick my pussy right and she says it four or five five times in the episode.

And it's for me to get a TV deal, my character to get a TV deal.

And I do it in the scene.

I get under the table and I was sitting under the table thinking to myself, when I was a kid, Princess Leia.

Watching Princess Leia in that gold bikini.

What I would have done for this moment.

Look at you now.

Wow.

And she was the coolest, funniest person.

I was telling a story about, I was on Jimmy Kimmel and I told a story about my mother getting deep vein thrombosis, right?

My mother got deep vein thrombosis on a luxury cruise, right?

Where you're meant to get it on economy seat on a flight.

Right.

Right.

So I go on Jimmy Kimmel and I say, my mother got it on a luxury cruise.

Most people get it sitting in economy, right?

I'm on set.

I get a phone call from my mother.

You have to go back on the Jimmy Kimmel show and tell the American public that you're a liar.

And I'm like, what?

She goes, I didn't get it on the cruise.

I got diagnosed on the cruise.

I actually got it at home.

Okay.

So my mum's yelling and screaming at me on the phone.

I'm in hair and makeup and Kerry Fisher's sitting there, right?

And I turn on the speakerphone so Kerry Fisher can hear.

And then I hang up and then Kerry Fisher turns to me and goes, your mother and my mother are exactly the same person.

And I'm like, I'll stop you right there, Kerry.

Your mother's Debbie Reynolds, who was in, you know, singing in the rain.

Yeah.

Right.

Who was a megastar.

megastar.

My mum's a morbidly obese woman in Sydney who's got deep Dane thrombosis.

They're vastly different women.

She's got DBT.

But she was really...

I've just started talking about myself.

Let's go back to Jax.

Wait, quickly, what is yours age gap?

13 and a half.

18.

You're 18 years apart?

Oh, she doesn't look that much older than you, man.

We have 90s music in common.

That's something we bond over.

What are you talking about?

In the car, we listen to our 90s.

No, that's the only music that we can listen to the same.

That's the only music where we are both fans.

Yeah, otherwise, I turn on the getting the Tesla and Sabrina Carpenter's on all the bloody time.

We've gotten lucky in terms of things

that are on now, we both enjoy.

We watch the same shows and the same stuff, and there's more that we have in common that we enjoy than don't.

But yeah, there's just like I always want to show her movies from the 90s or the 80s, and I make her watch it.

I got to show her Back to the Future.

Have you seen Back to the Future?

I'm sure it was on a list.

That was one of my favorite movies of all time.

It's the greatest movie that's ever been made.

It's the greatest movie on everybody.

And it's all one movie in the same scene.

There's the one scene that's on in every movie, and it's, it's.

It's all one movie.

In a way.

In a way, yeah, it's fantastic.

Oh, because it's all continuing.

I tell you what, I was at, I bought a ticket to have a photo with Christopher Lloyd and Michael J.

Fox at Comic-Con with my son.

That's right.

And And so we lined up.

You had to line up forever.

And all the nerds that were dressed like Marty McFly, waiting to have the photo, right?

Now, so we're talking about a man in his 80s and a man who's very sick with Parkinson's, right?

These are the two people.

And so as you get closer to the line, they're like this.

Please don't touch them.

Please leave them alone.

Because, you know, like if you give them COVID, they're both done.

You know what I mean?

Like, just

be chill.

Just go in there.

Keep your hands in your pockets.

And my son was, and everyone else was like like uh in scene four of the thing with a thing you know all very comic ony like that right and me and hank walked in and then hank don't touch him just be cool smile say thank you and hello right and hank comes in and goes hello and then stands up to the side like this and we're like this and then michael j fox looked at him and he goes and he actually put his arm around him and pulled him in oh cool right and put him in and it's the one photo he's got his arm around my son and that was pretty cool that's pretty cool and then we had a photo with like hayden christensen and uh Darth Vader yeah Darth Vader right and um you and McGregor that was the the other photo we did and I walked in and I tried to dress like myself as much as possible like I was wearing an outfit from a special because I wanted one of those two to recognize me right so that my son would be impressed yeah and I walked in and Hayden Christian went Jim Jeffries and then Ewan McGregor went your dad's a legend

made my fucking life

made my life that was the best day ever that was the most proud my son has ever been of me.

Oh, I loved it.

That's pretty cool.

I wonder what Rivers will be of us.

I hope she never sees The Bachelor.

Well, she's going to watch The Bachelor.

Yeah, that'd be great.

Look, man, at least The Bachelor is just you snogging different chicks, right?

Sure.

Right?

Yeah.

My stand-up is me talking about cocaine, right?

And skeletons in my closet.

Yeah, but you can be like, I'm a comic, and then she's going to be like, DJ, is it real?

And I'm going to be like,

a lot of the specials, I'm actually on cocaine as well.

You're actually actually doing it on stage in front of everybody.

So, yeah, I always worry about that.

Like when my kids, my kid just had someone say to him recently, one of the kids at school went, your dad's not funny.

You know, that type of thing.

And then they're going to start watching the clips.

And then there's jokes that I have made about my child

in the clips.

It's not easy being a comics family member.

It's not easy.

What like advice have you given him around that?

Like, don't listen to it.

Don't, or are you kind of like, who gives a fuck?

I'm just like, man, roll with the punches.

People are going to try to find your weak spot in life.

That's just what's going to happen.

If it's not this, it's going to be something else.

Let them tease me.

Better than them teasing you.

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

I don't care.

Like, what's the worst thing that you're going to get?

Is like, oh, my dad was really handsome.

He was the bachelor.

Oh, that must really hurt to my core.

My dad was the most desirable man in America for about three months.

Fair enough.

Fair enough.

Then he went on special forces and was held underwater and survived.

What a loser.

I'd be more worried about the cowboy boots.

Oh, well, that's a great place to end it.

Yeah.

The snake premieres tonight on Fox.

You can check it out on Hulu if you're not one of those people who is watching in real time, but it's a great show.

Check it out.

Lots of fun.

Hosted by yours, truly, Jim Jefferies.

We got the trailer of the snake that we're going to play for the audience.

Again, a reminder: it is out tonight, tonight, on Fox at 9 nine o'clock if you don't happen to catch it uh tonight it it does air on hulu the next day so check it out either on fox or on hulu here is the trailer of the snake this is social survival of the fittest it's not something i take lightly i deserve an oscar for that performance

The snake is the masterclass in watching people making friends and faking friends.

I will pick you over anywhere else.

And there's a lot of bluffing in this game.

Have I been told I could be manipulative?

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These contestants know how to get what they want and stereotypes of their jobs play into it.

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Each week they will compete in challenges to become the snake, the most powerful player in the game.

The snake will choose one player to save, setting off a chain reaction

until there are two left, leaving the snake with the ultimate decision.

She couldn't be a savop.

Who's lying to my face?

Every act you do in the game has a consequence.

Every single person in this entire house lied to me.

You have to screw people over.

It's just like life.

I'm flirting.

I'm using Devontae.

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Try to backstab people.

I feel pretty betrayed.

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Friendships will be broken up.

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Oh.

You look great.

How do you prepare for that?

You get some like a spray tan, maybe like a little.

As I said, I was in Australia.

I just showed up.

No script, no nothing.

Straight in.

Straight in on the stage.

But,

oh, well, now I can actually now that i can see the trailer i could have said so much more yeah so it's a saving ceremony so one person saves another person saves another person saves another person so it isn't an actual full vote oh so other shows yeah you know what i mean so it snakes down the vote it's very unique show in that respect so the snake is a playout like a snake yeah

so like i save nick nick can save casey and then casey can save me but you got to have a you got to have a friend in the house you really got to have two friends if you don't have two friends no one's going to save you right and so and so and people can manipulate like if you save nick i'll let tazy save you a lot of alliance stuff sure you know what i mean but uh yeah there was a lot of me just in the middle of a field throwing bugs on people

and that at the beginning when she says when i was shocked when i just watched it when she went i deserve an oscar for that performance I didn't know she wasn't crying.

I just found that out there when I was watching the trailer.

I remember standing next to her going, oh, the poor girl's having a terrible time here i was comforting her

you got them she got you too after it was over i was like you'll be all right her name uh is uh catherine which is catherine if you say it with a new zealand accent

katherine

all right well it looks great check it out it's on tonight or on hulu tomorrow uh jim so much fun please come back i feel like i i took over the bloody podcast and we didn't we went and talked about what we meant to talk about we talked about the snake all right yeah all right I had a great time.

Man, you can have me on here whenever you want.

I love being on this show.

We love to have you on.

Tazy, thanks for coming.

Thank you for having me.

Every time you come, every time Jim comes, make sure you bring your lovely wife.

I'd love to.

Yes,

we can always.

Are you going to come back?

Yeah, we didn't get to real talk about the valley and jacks and stuff.

See, next time we'll have you on when it's like real, real time, like when we can dive deep on an episode.

We'll definitely bring you back.

Jim, thanks for coming, buddy.

Thanks for having me, mate.

I appreciate it.

Thank you.

Thanks for listening, guys.

Thank you to our guest, Robin, Girl Boss, Town, Jim Jeffries, and his wife, Tazy.

We'll see you back on Thursday.

Bye.

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