E1020 – Going Deeper with Brooke Schofield

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Speaker 2 That's c-y-m-b-i-o-t-i-k-a dot com slash v-i-a-l-l 20 off plus free shipping you're ready to rock and roll yeah you nervous yeah why i'm always nervous to go on other people's podcasts in general but then also like now that we don't have canceled and i'm like my whole purpose of that was like i just don't want to be received or like perceived and then here i am i'm like

Speaker 5 Well, welcome to the show. Well, thank you.
We're very excited to have you. You're a different type of guest than we often have.

Speaker 5 And I'm really, honestly, just kind of curious to see where this conversation goes. I'm excited.

Speaker 5 So, yeah, welcome. We're excited to have you.

Speaker 5 Thank you.

Speaker 5 Because, like, I know mostly about you through my wife, Natalie, you know, who's a fan. I'm certainly like aware of the canceled podcast

Speaker 5 and aware of you. But like, I've, I'm not, I haven't been like a normal consumer, but obviously, like, I've heard your name pop up often.
Your former co-host, Hannah, like, obviously.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I know. You guys had some.

Speaker 4 Do we, though?

Speaker 2 I don't know. I don't, she doesn't know either, but I know.

Speaker 4 She, I feel like.

Speaker 5 Justin was prepping for this interview. He listened to your final episode and he was like, your name got brought up.

Speaker 2 Yeah, she always talks about it because she's like, we, you know, when you like have something with somebody and then you, it goes like enough time passes where you're like,

Speaker 2 I know, but remember it was something that was yes, Jojo.

Speaker 4 Jojo.

Speaker 2 We had it. We struggled to remember too, but then once we did, I was like, yeah, you were kind of rude about them.

Speaker 5 Well, you know, JoJo's my girl and I'm just defensive of my friends.

Speaker 2 I was, I said, they're my friends. Well, I said, Nanny's my friend.

Speaker 4 Thank you.

Speaker 5 I always just thought maybe I just have a face that's punchable.

Speaker 4 Oh,

Speaker 4 you're polarizing.

Speaker 1 But yeah, it was. She was like, like Nick Val.

Speaker 4 I don't know why I hate Nick Val, but I hate Nick Val. It's like, okay.

Speaker 4 Cool. At least my name is in her mouth.
No, we did.

Speaker 1 We met her at...

Speaker 4 I've never met her.

Speaker 1 No, we have. We met her at Seth McFarlane's party.
We met her there. We were in line to get drinks and we were behind her.

Speaker 1 And I was like, we should say hi because this like drama with JoJo had like happened a couple months prior. And I was like, we should say hi.
And we said hi.

Speaker 4 We met her.

Speaker 1 But she probably doesn't remember that either.

Speaker 2 Well, I'm sure she meant well.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Well, I mean, I don't know. I don't know where you want to start this interview.
I had been interested in getting both you and Tana on individually.

Speaker 5 I actually, I think, randomly was like, you know what? Fuck it. I'm just going to like DM Tana and ask her to come on the podcast.
And like three weeks later, she's like, ooh, this is interesting.

Speaker 5 Maybe

Speaker 5 let me do research.

Speaker 4 And then I haven't heard from her again.

Speaker 2 I talked to her about it last night because I told her I was coming on and she was like, I'm back and forth about it. I don't know why she would be.
She really does.

Speaker 5 I think people have a lot of different opinions about the show or me or, you know, I've heard I'm scary or something.

Speaker 2 No, we were jealous of you guys because we couldn't get, we're not allowed to have any Love Island people people on, probably for good reason.

Speaker 2 But like, like, there's somebody overhead that says absolutely no canceled podcast.

Speaker 4 Interesting.

Speaker 4 And so we were jealous of you.

Speaker 1 Well, that was a crazy fan base, so maybe you shouldn't be jealous because we were scary.

Speaker 4 Honestly,

Speaker 4 we're always like, I don't think we'll cover next season. It's just too much.

Speaker 5 It is a lot. But I mean, you know, you are coming off like two or two or three weeks ago, you guys, you and Tana did your last episode of Canceled,

Speaker 5 which was watched by many.

Speaker 5 I think a lot of people were left with the some might say more questions than answers uh you were very emotional in that tanna seemed less so emotional i know you spent four hours talking about it but it also felt like it's it i think a lot of people were thinking like you didn't really want it to end yeah and and and that it was more like one-sided but maybe you guys just handle emotions differently but i guess like you know why did it end and just how are you feeling about it two weeks or a few weeks after the interview about it ending and is it really over because you guys have ended it in the past and come back yeah well the first time we ended it it was an accident we didn't mean to end it but yeah I think you're right Tana and I both have completely different reasons for wanting to end the podcast I think I can't speak for her but if it were up to me and me alone it wouldn't have ended I probably would have just stuck it out just because

Speaker 2 I mean, it's so important to my life, especially like financially. Like I needed it there.

Speaker 2 Like for her, it ended because she was, you know, know, in my opinion, like being dragged into a lot of controversy because of me, obviously.

Speaker 2 And I was just like not doing well mentally. I was really, really struggling.

Speaker 2 And I felt like every single week, I was putting myself in a position to be perceived at like a verse, like as a version of myself that I was not proud of and not excited about.

Speaker 2 I was like trying to heal with from like things that I was really going through emotionally, but like I had like a ball and chain on my, you know, foot because it's like, I have this thing that I have to sit down and do every single week.

Speaker 2 And I can anticipate weeks and weeks after that, thousands of hate comments and backlash for things that I said.

Speaker 2 And it was just like, it was too heavy for me to handle like in the mental state that I was in. So.

Speaker 5 So from your standpoint, it was more like you would have preferred a like a, not to use bravo term, a put on pause, if you will.

Speaker 4 Absolutely.

Speaker 5 Maybe just like a timeout.

Speaker 5 But as that stands today, Tana was more or less like, maybe,

Speaker 5 maybe we should just end it type of thing.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I would have loved to take a second, especially like when things were really happening for me online, like, you know, with everything that went on, especially last year, I would have loved to take like, you know, a few months off and like take a beat and have time to like process that, but we didn't have the option because we had like, you know, this really like set in stone contract.

Speaker 2 So I think that that just, you know, snowballed into something horrible because I was like now. doing this thing that I should not have been doing in a state of mind that I should not have been in.

Speaker 2 And it just

Speaker 2 finally had to

Speaker 5 from an outsider's point of view, like not knowing a ton about you prior to this interview or even Tana, but like, you know, just like me, it's just like you, you know, you can be aware of me, but not know a lot about me.

Speaker 5 And just like, you know, you two, you guys are so prevalent on the internet and have huge fan bases that it's very easy when you're, you're that much in the public eye for people to have different perceptions of you.

Speaker 5 But, you know, you obviously just referenced being caught up in controversy. In the past, Tana has been caught up in controversy and things like that.
And she's also considered a polarizing character.

Speaker 5 I'm just curious, like, how did you guys come up with the name canceled?

Speaker 5 Because it seems like really ironic, the history and the lifespan of your show being called canceled and having to pause and end it based off of controversy.

Speaker 5 Like, is that a coincidence or how did that all come to be?

Speaker 2 I think it's a little bit of both. Tana, at the time that she started canceled, it was only her show.
Like it was, it was meant to be just canceled with Tana Mongeau.

Speaker 2 And that, I think, was what you're saying. She kind of thought it was funny because she'd been canceled so many times.
It was just like ironic.

Speaker 2 And also, like, she wanted to be able to, like, if somebody were to Google Tana Mongeau canceled, the podcast would come up and not like all her cancellations.

Speaker 4 She was smart.

Speaker 4 She was smart visible.

Speaker 2 Really brilliant. But then I think it ended up just.
accidentally manifesting some other serious major cancellations, which I would have loved to do without.

Speaker 5 When you make a mistake, you need to hold yourself accountable and learn from past mistakes.

Speaker 5 And I'm sure you've thought a lot about wanting to do things differently.

Speaker 5 But do you feel like how your show,

Speaker 5 you know, whether it's the title or just the content you talked about, do you feel like it almost manifested how things played out in reality?

Speaker 2 100%.

Speaker 2 I think we were, especially at the time that like everything happened with me, I was like

Speaker 2 doing this whole whack-a-mole like takedown situation. I was, I was personally contributing to so many other people's like downfalls.

Speaker 2 I was talking about drama and things that other people had done and I was being like the accountability police, like expecting that all these people like do better and whatever. And then,

Speaker 2 of course, it's like, I feel like people felt more inclined to, you know, hold me to the same standard that I was holding everybody else to, which is totally understandable.

Speaker 1 I definitely think like we were, I don't know, like scared, but like, it's always like, oh, well, we don't want to be a topic on canceled, you know, it's like, because it felt kind of like we have this rule at the Valve Files that like, we don't platform rumors.

Speaker 1 Like if there's something that some blog account or some TikToker is talking about from Reddit or something, like we're, it's not a topic that we're going to talk about because it's like we're not giving oxygen to just somebody who like.

Speaker 1 decided to make up something and it went viral.

Speaker 5 Yeah, like if Jojo comes on the show and says, you know, I have this thing with Tana, or if you like come on the show and bring something up, we'll talk about it.

Speaker 5 Or if you go on your social and talk about it, or if we watch it on a TV show that we're discussing, it's fair game for us.

Speaker 5 But if it was like a blogger said this, or someone on Reddit saying that, like, and we've made mistakes in the past, the show is like six years old. We've done over a thousand episodes.

Speaker 5 It was something that like, because of that, we were just like, it's, it's, yeah, and what sucks is because there are so many times we're like, oh, well, you hear that rumor.

Speaker 5 And even if you think it's true and you want it, because it's like, oh, well, that would be fun to just debate and discuss and question whether it is but yeah we've over over the years we've you know there's no like rules in the podcast space we try to set our own standards because yeah it's just like there's that thought of like you know we're having fun and maybe it's what i've learned on reality tv because it's like

Speaker 5 you know when you're on reality tv you're the topic of conversation and then you become sensitive and you have more empathy for people just like talking about you we i'm grateful that i had i learned that way rather yeah i think it's really respectable that you guys do that.

Speaker 2 Cause I mean, like you're saying, we definitely did not always, you know, practice that.

Speaker 2 I feel like it took for me, and I, I hate to admit it, but sometimes like I have to experience something firsthand before I can empathize with somebody else.

Speaker 4 I think that's normal.

Speaker 2 Yeah. So, so it wasn't until like that started really happening to me where people, like I open up my YouTube and I see my face in every thumbnail and like.

Speaker 2 It's about something completely untrue and I have no control over it. And I'm like, I have been doing that to people and we have made this whole huge show based on that alone.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 And so I think that had a lot to do with why we wanted to end it too, because we, you know, everyone was a fan of the show for that reason.

Speaker 2 And when we couldn't or didn't want to do that anymore, it's either too boring or they changed.

Speaker 1 Going, I mean, you were saying it's kind of like whackable. Like, is there anyone that comes to mind that you would want to like apologize to or say sorry for bringing their stuff to your platform?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I think I kind of did it in our last episode also, but there's some people I think I just, not necessarily like, like, I regret completely bringing it up, but like, I think I drove some like major hate campaigns towards certain people that like didn't necessarily deserve it.

Speaker 2 Matt Reif comes to mind, Zach Sang, like there were people who really didn't do that wrong by me, but I was so hurt in the moment that I was like, let me tell millions of people.

Speaker 2 And it was just not, I would never do it again. You're Matt Reif.

Speaker 5 I do vaguely remember it being.

Speaker 4 big news. Oh, sorry.

Speaker 2 It was a really dramatic reaction to something that wasn't that dramatic. And that is a common theme in my life.

Speaker 5 You know, life is all about perspective and how you view things.

Speaker 5 And obviously you've been through some traumas lately,

Speaker 5 some of which you've acknowledged are self-induced, you know, your fault. But like.
There's always an opportunity to learn and move forward.

Speaker 5 And hopefully, like, there's an opportunity to learn from you. Do you feel like your audience members, because a lot of them I think are young and look up to you and Tana.

Speaker 5 Do you feel like people have learned from your your antenna's mistakes?

Speaker 5 You know, is there a way to entertain, but also at the same time recognize that like, yeah, it's tough because you said, like, there's, you know, a lot of times when we kind of invoke our rule, it's like, fuck, but that, that would, that would perform.

Speaker 5 You know, that would like, uh, you know, it's like, that's the, that's the juicy stuff that like sometimes.

Speaker 5 it's it's hard to please and it always runs the risk of people getting hurt so to speak and do you feel like people or your audience have not only looked at you guys and like, oh, we need to hold you two accountable, but like maybe learned themselves about like what to do and not to do when it comes to who they're talking about online?

Speaker 4 Yeah, I hope so.

Speaker 2 I hope at the very least, like people have noticed like the weight of your words, like specifically even things I've said, you know, so many years ago can have so much impact, like, you know, 10, 15 years later.

Speaker 2 And there's so much of that happening right now, people who are doing it right this second who don't understand like or know that, you know, maybe down the line, they won't mean that anymore or like, or they're going to regret it.

Speaker 2 And it could really hurt somebody. So, I hope that people just, you know, have more of a filtration process than at least I did.
I mean, I would like for people to see that you can grow.

Speaker 2 And, like, maybe if you were once somebody who wanted to bully or make other people feel bad or whatever it is, like you can decide one day you don't want to anymore. And that's fine.

Speaker 4 You can always change.

Speaker 5 Were you always, not always, but like, was being a public figure a goal of yours or did it organically happen?

Speaker 2 Of course, when you're younger like being famous is like the most exciting thing in the world especially me i like i'm not ashamed to admit like validation to me was like currency i wanted attention so bad always growing up that i feel like that felt like the peak of it like to to be known and loved by like you know the masses that felt like it would be the coolest thing in the world like yeah so i think yeah i think so i didn't necessarily like want to just be famous but i wanted to be known for whatever it was i was going to do and i didn't know what that was going going to be.

Speaker 1 And speaking of you growing up, like you've openly talked about your mom was a drug addict. You were adopted by your grandparents.
What was your childhood like?

Speaker 2 Yeah, so my mom struggled or has struggled and still does struggle with addiction. I lived with just her until I was like around nine or ten years old.

Speaker 2 And then I think she either, she either went to rehab or jail or something where I felt like I was going to go with my grandparents for like the weekend and I just never got picked up. And

Speaker 2 my time with my grandparents was,

Speaker 2 I mean, it was like night and day. Like I, I went from being like dirt road meth house to like this suburban, sweet, amazing family.
So it was really special.

Speaker 2 But then, you know, that comes with its own problems. My grandma immediately just got like really sick.
And then it was a whole different struggle over there. But I don't know.

Speaker 2 I was really, really grateful for them. I felt like rescued.

Speaker 1 Like Dirt Road methouse, like legit dirt road. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah. It's only honestly kind of recently that I've started like unpacking it a little bit.
I feel like I had this tendency to like joke about it.

Speaker 2 If you ever hear me talk about it on canceled, I'm like very like, yeah, my mom's a crackhead.

Speaker 2 Like, I was joking about it for so long, I think, because like I hated the feeling of like people pitying me or like say, you know, when you say something that happened to you and instead of people laughing, they're like, Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 Oh God, I'm so sorry. And then you have to be like, oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I really didn't like that. So I always felt like.
I was kind of like dismissive and I wanted to just feel like it didn't bother me. And

Speaker 2 I feel like you think when you grow up, it's going to get like easier and I feel like my experience has been like the more I've grown up the more it's like hurt me and upset me was it your grandparents or was it your mom who explained kind of like your mom's disease I don't think it was ever really like explained to me I just we I just had an understanding of it you know like she was doing meth in the house like I never had to be told that she was a drug addict I definitely I knew it wasn't normal like we knew it wasn't normal we were upset by it and stuff and like that specifically like that really wasn't the problem it was you know what comes with being a meth addict like the violence and like the fighting and the people in and out.

Speaker 2 Like it was just like that was more traumatic to me.

Speaker 2 But it wasn't until I was like a little bit older, probably like more recently, like the last five years where I really was like, this is a disease. It's not a choice.

Speaker 2 It's not like her having abandoned me. It's like something that she struggles with so bad.
And that was helpful to not resent her so much.

Speaker 1 What is your relationship like with your mom today?

Speaker 2 That's, um,

Speaker 2 I literally, I just recently, like a few weeks ago, we went completely no contact. Really? Like I had to fully block her, which was horrible.

Speaker 1 If you don't mind me asking, like what sparked that response?

Speaker 2 I've done it a few times. I've like, I've wrestled with it a lot because like similar to canceled, I feel like it was, I was trying to heal from something, like a relationship that I was still in.

Speaker 2 Like I really wanted to work through some of that.

Speaker 2 Except I was still suffering like at the hands of her, it felt like, especially like having become more successful, it became like a very like emotionally abusive relationship where it was like, I need money or this.

Speaker 2 And like, it was just really constant, like, taking from me and with nothing in return. And I just felt really taken advantage of.
And I just finally had to be like, can't do it. I bought a house.

Speaker 2 So I'm like, I can't financially support everybody anymore. I can't.

Speaker 5 I imagine that your

Speaker 5 success in the public eye affected.

Speaker 5 your relationship with your mom or changed how she acted around you at times? It's like how people like handle like family can get weird when you get famous.

Speaker 2 You think it only happens in movies. It was like, it was the strangest thing.
Like, you know, you get money and like, it's why people tell you if you win the lottery, like you shouldn't tell anybody.

Speaker 2 You never expect it's going to happen to you, but it, you know, it did.

Speaker 1 People come out of the woodworks for sure. Yeah.
What is your relationship like with your father?

Speaker 2 I have a much better relationship with him. I mean, we had have had our own issues, but he wasn't nearly as involved in my life as my mom was.
So I feel less hurt by him. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And he also like, it wasn't until I was like an adult. I have more of like a friendship with my dad than I do like a daughter-son.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Or daughter-father, father relationship.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 But it's healthier.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Once I think you can like accept your parent for like the best that they can do.
Like my dad doesn't have a dad bone in his body.

Speaker 1 Like he's a great friend and he's a great person to like hang out with, but he's not like, he doesn't have the like father in him.

Speaker 1 And so I've had to just like accept that and stop expecting him to like be a dad. And our relationship has gotten so much better since then.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you just, I need to not hold him to such a high standard. I felt that way with my mom.
I, my mom, her mom was horribly neglectful. She ended up going on to kill herself.

Speaker 2 So she like, my mom didn't have a, a good example. She doesn't.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 2 I don't know if she ever knew how to be a mom. She had three daughters and all of us ended up different places.
So like

Speaker 2 I have to you know be fair to her and like understand that she is like you know they say it's your parents first time living too but at the same time selfishly i have to like understand that that comes at a major cost to me and for me to like if i want to start a family and i want to go on to do all these things i need to like i need to cut that tie because that's how you carry it on.

Speaker 5 I know people like to say the things like no regrets, but I honestly think regrets a real thing. And I think that's okay to say.

Speaker 5 I think sometimes people like to say everything happens for a reason to explain away the shitty times.

Speaker 5 And obviously with what things have gone on in your life and things we just talked about, like specifically with the canceled or just like previous things that, you know, you have done and had to apologize for, when you think of regret, or more importantly, when you think about just like moving forward, you know, you're still sitting here today.

Speaker 5 And from what I could tell, You still have a lot of great things in your life, right? And you have a lot of like privileges and blessings that like a lot of people don't have.

Speaker 5 But at the same time, you've dealt with some like really difficult things that have really like hurt your mental health.

Speaker 5 I'm sure at times when you're feeling the weight of the internet coming from you, it's been incredibly scary.

Speaker 5 And I'm sure you've had regrets or, you know, wondering, or maybe there's been a thought, like, why did I even start this podcast? You know, it was it worth it, you know?

Speaker 5 But now that, you know, some of the dust has settled a little bit, you've moved on from canceled, how do you balance regret versus still being grateful for what you have and then just focusing on learning from mistakes?

Speaker 2 For a long time, I really struggled with gratitude and feeling grateful for like what I did do have because I have so much, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 And I have so much privilege and things that I dreamed, dreamt of. And I felt a lot of guilt for like feeling the way that I did when I knew I had all of this stuff.

Speaker 5 I mean, do you have regret? Like, I mean, I guess, do you, have you ever been like, I, I wish I never did any of this?

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Well, and I don't, I, I'm not talking about specific things, but like, I know it's like a deeper conversation. You've referenced tweets, you know, like the tweets and stuff in the past.

Speaker 5 Like, if someone were to give you the benefit of the doubt to say, you know, maybe this was a younger person and she doesn't think or feel this way, as insensitive, as wrong as those tweets were, people did find them.

Speaker 5 And, you know, it's like, and they wouldn't have found them if you weren't in the public eye.

Speaker 5 And I'm sure you've had that kind of emotional or mental gymnastics about like, because if you just got a job is like, I don't know, whatever.

Speaker 2 Nothing like that would have ever happened.

Speaker 5 Nothing would have happened and doesn't make what you, it doesn't eliminate, but I'm assuming that you didn't think that way for a long time.

Speaker 5 You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 Yeah. I don't regret canceled in any way.
I don't regret, you know, anything about like the way that my career has panned out.

Speaker 2 Of course, maybe if I could go back, I would maybe have, I don't know if I, I don't know if I would have wanted to like delete all of that or whatever, because it was such a huge part.

Speaker 2 I mean, it was a huge learning lesson for me.

Speaker 2 And it was important to like, I needed to learn that particular lesson like and forgive myself for like having felt that way in the past and it is cliche to say like everything happens for a reason but like all of that led me to where i am right now and i'm very very happy where i am right now and i have everything that i have because of canceled so if that that was the reason of that all that bad like that bad stuff happened i would still do it again i think

Speaker 1 and what is like your relationship with the internet today Oh, it's so hard.

Speaker 2 I struggle so bad with my relationship with the internet because I'm driven completely by emotion like logic is uninvolved so like I can see you know millions of really amazing sweet nice messages every single day and I while I'm so grateful for them my overwhelming feeling is like everybody hates me you know what I mean so I like I straighten it's like but there's got to be a bad one there's got to be

Speaker 2 it's it's a s literal self-harm behavior I noticed myself doing it and Miles my fiance he he'll see me doing it he'll see me open up a nice message swipe out and go look for something worse like it's there and I don't mean like you i mean like if you're looking for i mean if you're in the public eye and you want to find something bad about you

Speaker 2 you'll find it and i i don't have to look very hard i'll tell you that much but i don't think but no one does yeah and i i don't know i i go through periods where i am so good about it and i i can live outside my phone and my body and i can be present for

Speaker 2 you know, periods of time, but then also I'll fall into it and I'll obsess over it for days and not literally look up from my phone once.

Speaker 5 Have you gotten better at least? Are you still working on that?

Speaker 2 I think I've gotten a lot better, specifically in my relationship that I'm in now. At the time that I met him, I was so consumed by that.

Speaker 2 And I was also just get like, that was the midst of everything. So I was what felt like the most hated person on the internet.
And I behaved as such. Like I felt that way.

Speaker 2 And I feel like he really brought me back out. of my body and like I started noticing what was in front of me again.
And I think that really, really helped.

Speaker 1 You really are like the only person I feel like that can do the most normal activity. And someone somewhere will be like, oh my God, she pushed me in the parking lot.

Speaker 4 And it's like, what the fuck? It's crazy. It's so craziest.

Speaker 1 I've never seen anything like that.

Speaker 2 It's a lesson I've learned. It was one thing.
And I completely understand being, you know, getting ridiculed or like being held accountable for things that I've, I have actually done wrong.

Speaker 2 And I've done a lot of things actually wrong. But it started really scaring me when I started seeing things that just got made up.
This would never happen. She cut me in line at Erewhon and Calabasas.

Speaker 2 I'm like, I've never even been to Calabasas.

Speaker 2 Like, just things every day where, like, people were making things up. And because I'm not necessarily the most well-received person, it's immediately truth.

Speaker 2 You know, like, same thing, like, somebody says they had a bad experience with Blake Lively, immediately everyone's like, yep.

Speaker 1 And it immediately goes viral.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 5 And it's like, yeah, I think their names in the same sentence is Blake Lively.

Speaker 4 I know.

Speaker 4 You know, you know, little wins. Little wins.
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Speaker 5 What is your relationship with Tana today? You mentioned that you had just spoken with her. I think there's a lot of speculation that your friendship is not as close as it used to be and that.

Speaker 5 you know, the fallout of things that you've had to go through and the ending of your, of canceled has played a role in that.

Speaker 4 yeah

Speaker 2 so i think during cancelled like while canceled was going on there was speculation that like oh my god these girls hate each other and like i'd say 40 to 50 percent of the time it was true like we did not get along we butt heads about everything like it's it's really hard to have a business with your friends and like especially when you don't see eye to eye almost ever but I think somewhere along the way, especially toward the end when we could see like what felt like the light at the end of the tunnel, it became more of like a us against them versus like us against each other but i don't know i feel like now i feel so much better about our relationship we feel so much better about it we're happy and we are back to being friends because we struggled fans noticed that she did not go to your engagement party yeah did she tell you beforehand she wasn't gonna make it what kind of happened there she did tell me she was in hawaii and her she just bought a place in hawaii and it was like under construction and so she had to be there to oversee that.

Speaker 2 And I understand. Like, that was like, yeah, it was a valid, it's an engagement party.
So it was like, not the wedding.

Speaker 4 Yeah. It's not the wedding.

Speaker 2 It's not the wedding. I'd be like, of course, I would.

Speaker 5 I also had friends miss my wedding.

Speaker 4 Yeah. That's also okay.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 And in the moment, I'm somebody who like, I'm really sensitive about those things, like birthdays, like anything. I, I really, I have like trauma about feeling like people don't show up for me.

Speaker 2 So those things usually really upset me. But she was very, like, she really communicated and she's like, she was really good about it.
So didn't bother me.

Speaker 5 The shutterfly gift.

Speaker 4 Oh. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Some people thought it was like not enough. It was like a parting gift.

Speaker 4 Really?

Speaker 2 We, I didn't get her a gift at all. Okay.
There you go. I think, I think that was like a really nice gift.

Speaker 4 Cute. Okay.

Speaker 4 I didn't, well, yeah, I didn't know we were doing that.

Speaker 5 Apparently, the internet had opinions about really it.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 I thought it was amazing. It's on my coffee table.

Speaker 5 But to your point, you didn't get her anything.

Speaker 4 So yeah, I didn't. Yeah.

Speaker 2 She gave me a career. I think that's like, that's pretty valid.

Speaker 5 I think it sounds like just the way it landed, like like you're crying the whole time and Tana was just like

Speaker 5 and then like kind of gave you a gift almost as if because you're crying and all it was was this like I'm just like generally a way more emotional person than her.

Speaker 2 So like that was bound to happen. Like I was going to be hysterical and she's just not that way.
But I bought a house because Tana of what Tana did for me. I'm I'm more than happy with the book.

Speaker 1 She also, didn't she buy you a car?

Speaker 4 She did buy me a car. So like I don't think

Speaker 4 I feel like that's where the internet's coming from.

Speaker 5 They're like, oh,

Speaker 4 yeah, maybe they were like,

Speaker 4 you set the bar a little high.

Speaker 4 That's true. That's true.

Speaker 1 Getting into your relationship. I know you're very protective of it.
I understand why. I'm very protective of my relationship with Nick.

Speaker 1 But I also am like, I think this goes with the same kind of things we were talking about earlier: how someone can go online and say anything, and it immediately is truth, and it immediately goes viral.

Speaker 1 There's been a story about your fiancé that is just, to my knowledge, completely untrue. And it's as if people think that it's like law.

Speaker 2 The story, like the instant that I announced my relationship, it was like originally people were pulling up photos of him and Sophia Ritchie because that was his best friend's little sister. Okay.

Speaker 2 It started as a conversation about him dating underage Sophia Ritchie because there's like these photos of them together. But these are all people who grew up in LA together.

Speaker 2 And then when that didn't stick, it became a story of a different girl, one of her best friends. It just snowballed.
There was one video about it.

Speaker 2 It was made on my birthday birthday that was you know brooke schofield's fiancé is a pedophile he dated an underage girl she's 16 and he's almost 30 which just wasn't also wasn't true but

Speaker 2 again it just you know everyone accepts it immediately as truth i was way more sensitive about it because it wasn't just about me it was about him and like it's just not true like did that affect your like relationship at all was there any part where he was like, this is stealing like a part of you.

Speaker 1 And like, we know the truth. So like, why does it matter?

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's really the only like actual struggle we've faced our entire relationship because it's hurt me so much. And I feel like he's able, it's not really on social media.

Speaker 2 It's not, he's not as affected by it. But, like, if I showed you my comments right now, it's like, just, you know, there's a photo of them two together, that, like, him and the girl who it is.

Speaker 2 That it's just, I get it thousands and thousands and thousands of times every day.

Speaker 5 It also seems just a little messed up.

Speaker 5 I don't know who this person is, but at the time in which this photo was taken, if they were underage like why is this person being doxed and why is this person being caught up in a story like why are people sending photos of an underaged girl I always find it fascinating the internet the way they will in order to make a point they won't consider her or yeah just people involved or how it's like certainly to not like that degree but like you know when we cover TV shows like Love Island we've covered and that audience is you know well documented to be very intense and at times toxic and it being you know, that the problem with like a long form show, right?

Speaker 5 Like we'll sit here and talk for like an hour or two hours and then people will make clips. And then

Speaker 5 you can edit clips and you can be like, well, they said this. We're like, we did this.

Speaker 4 We did not say that.

Speaker 5 Like you took out all the content.

Speaker 4 The important part of the word

Speaker 4 completely changes the conversation.

Speaker 5 But yeah, I mean, it's and And then in that, to make a point about people who don't like us, they will like dox other people or bring up rumor.

Speaker 5 Like, you know, we just talked about we don't talk about rumors and we don't platform things that we don't know, but we have been accused of doing stuff that we didn't do.

Speaker 5 And only for people to talk about the very thing that people are accusing us of talking about that we didn't talk about.

Speaker 5 It's like this whole fucked up thing where it's just like no one is considering this other person.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 5 And I, yeah, we is this kind of like, I don't know, it's just fucked up.

Speaker 2 No, yeah. I mean, it's, it's so frustrating.
There's so many layers to it. Like I, first of all, immediately, I take that seriously.

Speaker 2 Like, I would never want to be with somebody who dated somebody who's underage ever. I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 Like, a lot of people don't think I'm like the most morally correct person, but like, I simply would never do that.

Speaker 2 So, I took it completely as seriously as everybody else when it was like first presented to me. And I spoke to her immediately, you know, and she was like so confused by the situation.

Speaker 2 She's like, what is this? What is going on? Most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. And she, you know, she talked to us about our relationship and was so happy for miles.

Speaker 2 And And she's like, nobody deserves to be happy more than you. And like, I'm so sorry that this is happening.
She's like, I'm hopeful that it'll just blow over.

Speaker 2 But I knew, you know, of course, if it's about me, it's not going to blow over.

Speaker 2 And it's just frustrating, but you can see, like, it's frustrating because all day long it's like, Brooke, you're ignoring the allegations. And it's like, there's no allegations.

Speaker 2 She herself is saying this never happened. It is not true.
He grew up in LA. All of these people who were present during that time are telling me absolutely not.
I know who she did during that time.

Speaker 2 I know so much about the situation.

Speaker 1 That's just like, it's just wild that people who.

Speaker 1 It's yeah, it's not an allegation, but it's just like wild who people who, you know, see something online and think they know more about a situation than people who are actually there.

Speaker 5 Like, that's what blows my mind so much is that it's like an allegation if it came from this person who you talked to who said it's not true.

Speaker 4 No, but that's what makes it an allegation.

Speaker 5 It's not an allegation if some random person puts two things together and connects dots that aren't there and creates a story.

Speaker 2 A photo, just a photo of them together. I know who else was in the room.
I know, like, I know all of these people. And like, it's disguised as this, like, justice for her.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 Like, she deserves justice. She deserves accountability, but she wants nothing to do with the situation.
She hates this. Every single time she opens her phone, she's seeing her own face everywhere.

Speaker 2 She's getting tagged in it. You are not doing her this big favor that you

Speaker 1 think that you're doing. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And I said this like when I addressed it the last time i i and i still mean it today like there are so many people who in the public eye specifically who have true allegations who have accusers and victims who like you know have wives and girlfriends and partners never have i ever seen a wife girlfriend or partner be expected to take accountability for something that you know their partner did

Speaker 2 literally it's just it's like no one has gone after army hammer's ex-wife right and i can think of like you know an influencer off the top of my head who just got you know, canceled for a similar thing.

Speaker 2 Never have I ever opened his wife's comments and seen a negative thing. Mind you, this supposedly happened 10 years before I met him.
I wasn't there. I'm not in the photo.

Speaker 2 What do I have to do with it? Nobody who's talking about it even knows his name. It's been about me, in my opinion, this entire time.
That's why it gets me so

Speaker 2 just frustrated.

Speaker 1 I mean, valid, as it should. It would get me frustrated too.

Speaker 5 At some point, though, you're just going to have to

Speaker 2 surrender.

Speaker 5 Not surrender, just move on. Like we said before, there's always someone on the internet that will, you're never going to convince everyone.
I have had to learn that.

Speaker 5 Like on reality TV, when I was like a villain on reality TV, I would meet people in person and they would go like, oh, you're different than I thought or you're taller or whatever.

Speaker 5 And so there was a part where I was like, I'm just going to meet everyone in the world and, you know, convince them that I'm not this way. But that's like, you can't do that, right? Yeah.

Speaker 5 And you're, you're just, you you have to allow people to just think and feel what they want especially when they're strangers online i mean i also assume i'm assuming your audience is pretty young yeah

Speaker 5 and to that degree there's like part like you know i've said this tenale when we are covering love island a lot of its fan base are 16 17 year old 18 year olds and like not to discount them at all but like they're probably going to be easily activated.

Speaker 5 There's a little, there's less lived experiences. You've talked about on, you know, doing canceled, you've had to learn lessons the hard way.

Speaker 5 And it was easier to point the finger without thinking about the three fingers pointed at you until something happens to you.

Speaker 5 And like usually empathy comes from lived experiences of being humbled and things like that. And when you, you know, you're a younger audience is going to just be more easily activated.

Speaker 5 You know what I'm saying? Like, I appreciate you opening up.

Speaker 5 And obviously, Nanali answered the question, but at some point, you could do a hundred more of these podcasts and you could, in theory, get everyone who's on the internet to listen to your story and it still won't change everyone's mind.

Speaker 5 You know, and at some point you're just going to have to like let people think whatever the fuck they want.

Speaker 2 I know. I, you know, it can be told to me a million times.
I'm hoping that one day it just, it sticks. I just struggle so much with like the defensiveness.

Speaker 1 Like, I get it because it's like, and people come for us and it's just like, none of that is true. Like, you're just facts are wrong.

Speaker 1 So it comes from such a place where you're like, you want to defend it so bad because you're like, there is no truth to this. And you get so angry.

Speaker 1 And we've, I'm so grateful, obviously, that Nick's been in this world more than I have. And he's like, you cannot like give any oxygen to these rumors.

Speaker 1 And it's like, have you ever regretted like posting a video and talking about whatever?

Speaker 1 I feel like a lot of the times you find out what's going on in people's lives because they get on their social media and they're like, guys, I'm here to like talk about the rumors going on about me.

Speaker 1 Like they're not, and you're like, oh my God, rumors going on about you. Like, and then they go into like a date.

Speaker 4 Like, I don't know.

Speaker 1 That's your algorithm that's feeding you. And I'm not the rest of the world.

Speaker 2 I'm the first person to do that.

Speaker 2 And I, yes, to answer your question, I've regretted it almost every single time because, like you said, there's so many people who, you know, go through way worse or do way worse who never address it.

Speaker 2 And it never becomes a problem ever again. And so, yeah, I wish, I wish I had the, you know,

Speaker 2 wherewithal in the moment to be like, this is probably going to do more harm than good.

Speaker 5 You know, I'm learning. It's tough.
Yeah. You want to be heard.
But yeah,

Speaker 5 Natalie reminded me of that. Yeah, it's like, I sometimes chuckle because like so many people in reality TV and my peers will like platform rumors about themselves.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I've done that in the sake of wanting to like

Speaker 5 let people know it's not true.

Speaker 4 And I'm always like, first time I heard of it, you know,

Speaker 1 didn't even know that was going on.

Speaker 4 But tell me more.

Speaker 2 From this point forward, I promise.

Speaker 1 What are some things about your relationship with Miles that's different from relationships you've had previously?

Speaker 2 Absolutely everything about my relationship with Miles is different from relationships I've had previously.

Speaker 2 I think the number one thing that comes to mind is like who I am in the relationship because I'm somebody who struggled, like has a little bit of identity issues.

Speaker 2 And in past relationships, I've wanted to meet everybody exactly where they are. So whatever that means my personality has to be like,

Speaker 2 I'm unsure, you know? Obviously, that's not a foundation for any good relationship. And that's why I've been in so many bad ones is because I entered it as somebody who wasn't even me.

Speaker 2 And so I feel like being in a relationship where I'm 100% like exactly who I am alone has been just really, really special. And he's just the, like, the best, most patient person of all time.

Speaker 2 We've never, he won't argue with me, even if I want to. And it's just very healing after having like so many like emotionally abusive relationships in a row.
So

Speaker 2 he's the best.

Speaker 5 What's next for you?

Speaker 4 Planning on stuff.

Speaker 5 Do you have things in the works?

Speaker 2 I have nothing in the works. I'll tell you that much.
But

Speaker 2 I definitely like have hope. I would love, I love long-form content.
I love podcasting. I just think like specifically canceled and what we had built over there was not suiting either of us anymore.

Speaker 2 So I feel like somewhere down the line where I'm a little bit more, or I should say less sensitive to, you know, criticism and public opinion.

Speaker 2 I would love to start another and maybe have it be a little bit more tasteful and serious.

Speaker 2 But for now, I'm, I'm, I love YouTube. I love TikTok.
I love

Speaker 2 making videos and stuff. Just, I don't know.

Speaker 5 Are you planning your wedding?

Speaker 2 No, honestly. Like, no, I'm not planning my wedding at all.
I think buying the house has just been our priority and it's given us such like purpose and excitement. And you guys know, like,

Speaker 2 picking everything and taking care of it, it's so fulfilling because, I mean, I've literally never lived in a house for more than like a year. So, like, it's really special.

Speaker 2 And I feel like that's our number one focus right now.

Speaker 4 Do you want to have babies?

Speaker 1 Yes. Me too.

Speaker 2 Not for a second. I think

Speaker 2 I still have a little bit more work to do upstairs before I need to bring a life into this world, but I would love to have babies maybe within the next couple of years.

Speaker 1 Are there

Speaker 1 things that obviously you

Speaker 1 didn't get from your parents that you would want to give to your children?

Speaker 2 Absolutely.

Speaker 2 Support for one.

Speaker 4 I don't know.

Speaker 2 My mom, like,

Speaker 2 I say like all these things about her, but like she wanted so badly to be a mom and she wanted to be a good mom and she couldn't be.

Speaker 2 So like, I just want to be absolutely certain that when I do have children, like that I'm, I'm prepared for it and I'm not battling everything with myself to the point where I can't show up for them in the way that ended up happening to her.

Speaker 2 But I had like,

Speaker 2 I don't talk about my grandma a lot, but like, she was such a perfect example of like what a mother should be and like what that's supposed to look like that I feel like I have some some good influence there.

Speaker 1 They also feel like having, I mean, having River like healed so much of

Speaker 1 me as like a child. Like, you know, it's, it, it gave, I, I saw myself.

Speaker 1 as her and I was able to like love myself kind of in like my daughter version, which has been, I think, like, just overall, like the best possible scenario.

Speaker 1 And I think you'll be a great mom when the time comes.

Speaker 2 I'm really excited about it.

Speaker 4 And thank you for saying that. You're welcome.

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Speaker 5 Should we talk a little reality TV at least?

Speaker 4 Yes. Yes.

Speaker 2 Although I feel like we don't watch the same shows.

Speaker 1 You watch Love is Blind.

Speaker 2 I did. I watched it like kind of background.
Okay.

Speaker 4 You're not covering it. You're on your phone.

Speaker 2 I'm not. Yeah.

Speaker 4 You're reading hate comments. I was reading hate comments.
That's 100% certain.

Speaker 2 I am a super fan of the challenge, which you told me you've never really been into the challenge.

Speaker 5 I never got into it. Yeah.
No.

Speaker 2 It is my favorite. Also, Big Brother just ended, but I was so locked into Big Brother.

Speaker 4 It was just interesting for you.

Speaker 1 Are you fans like Survivor and that kind of stuff too?

Speaker 4 You are.

Speaker 2 All shows like that, but Big Brother specifically, I love because it's so often. It's like three.

Speaker 5 So you'd want to get on Traders.

Speaker 2 I would do anything to be on Traders. I think you have to do a reality show first.
Same thing with challenge. You can't go on the challenge without having been first on another show.

Speaker 5 I mean, I don't think they don't have any set rules, but it's been,

Speaker 5 yeah. It's been heavy on the reality TV star.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 I would love to do anything like that. I'm so obsessed with it.
And I get so attached to those people.

Speaker 2 The challengers, those are my family.

Speaker 4 Those are my family.

Speaker 5 Could you do Love is Blind? Like, I know you're not literally, but like.

Speaker 2 100%. Have you guys seen my exes? Yes, I could do Love is Blind.

Speaker 1 You're like, I was already blind.

Speaker 2 No, that was mean to say, but I have no physical type whatsoever. I think Love is Blind would be like the perfect show for me.

Speaker 5 Well, that's how you get on Traders.

Speaker 2 Yep, I'm engaged.

Speaker 4 Oh, that's true. Yes.

Speaker 4 Yes, of course.

Speaker 1 Speaking of your exes,

Speaker 1 have you followed or do you regret or anything with Clinton Kane?

Speaker 2 Yes and no.

Speaker 2 That was so...

Speaker 2 I don't want to say therapeutic because it was like, it shouldn't have been therapeutic for like me to cause like a huge hate campaign against somebody but i also feel like there was some level of like community and like people who had experienced similar things that i i felt good about if it was that part of it was therapeutic for me i do often think about like

Speaker 2 the lasting effects that that had on him and his career and like that makes me feel like horrible of course but i mean some of the stuff was like definitely

Speaker 1 yeah it was kind of like you were giving like a psa of like women if you are gonna date this man, like

Speaker 1 here's some things you should know.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I guess it's like, you know, when it comes to people

Speaker 5 talking shit about

Speaker 5 exes, and I don't know honestly much about what you guys are talking about in the past, but if you are dating someone and you really feel like they're, they are who they are, they're not going to learn and the trauma, if it's real trauma that you experienced and that really hurt you, and you think this person is at risk of doing that to the future partners they have.

Speaker 5 I feel like that's justifiable and almost makes sense.

Speaker 2 I think so too. It was also like another level of deception.
It wasn't just like, you know, cheating and lying. It was like you faked the death of your family and you faked an Australian accent.

Speaker 2 Like it was.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Yeah.
Faked an Australian accent.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Every once in a while I'd be in bed and now he would tell me about you and Tano and some of the crazy escapades you guys had.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it was it was definitely different than like just being done wrong by an ex.

Speaker 5 Okay, now I'm super interested.

Speaker 5 What was that like to like,

Speaker 5 that's scary.

Speaker 2 It was terrifying.

Speaker 4 It's scary because like, you know, we've all lied.

Speaker 5 We've all hurt the people we've loved or love. It actually happens a lot.
But someone just fanking a whole personality or persona or life is like a whole level of deception that really

Speaker 5 can can really rock someone's

Speaker 4 court.

Speaker 2 I wish more than anything that people could have seen the moment that i figured it out myself because it was like what do you mean you know what i mean like i i of course was like in denial for a while but like you know every day i was you know dealing with him crying and and consoling him over his dead mom who is walking the streets of the philippines right now like wild it was so

Speaker 2 like

Speaker 2 it was horrible and it was it was honestly very violating because it felt

Speaker 2 like i can't explain that but i'm you know i'm i'm dating and sleeping with with this person who is nothing of what they say they are it just it felt like

Speaker 1 but i mean it also makes you just question everything you know if you're it's like if everything

Speaker 1 can give this whole story about your dead parents like what the what is this person doing now i believe he's

Speaker 1 some would say he's a singer i don't know yeah some would say

Speaker 4 I don't know. I hope that's a good idea.
Has he never owned up to no.

Speaker 2 He did. He did.
Like he's never publicly addressed it, but he did make a song song where he says, like, I told the whole world where they could find your grave.

Speaker 2 Like, he's now saying, like, he was so like in a poem?

Speaker 4 In a song, in a song.

Speaker 4 Accountability. Okay, Easter egg.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I think his thing now is like he had such a bad relationship with his parents that he had to, he just said that they were dead. And if that were true, I would almost understand.

Speaker 2 But like, you didn't just say that. You said that she fell down the stairs.
She was in a coma for a long time. You sat there and you had to personally pull the plug.

Speaker 2 And then she gave you the deed to her eight-bedroom bedroom house on the beach in Australia, like such detail that it's like, you can't, you can't say that.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Like, that's not, she's dead to me.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 And you're like, you left out to me, you know?

Speaker 4 I could forgive that.

Speaker 2 That's really important detail, actually. But we would be sitting at dinner and he'd, he would just immediately like go cold, go like start crying and go, oh, it's my mom's birthday.

Speaker 4 And

Speaker 1 did the, did the Australian accent ever crack? Were you ever like, oh, you said that?

Speaker 2 If you were to watch a video, you'd be like, Brooke, what do you mean you thought that was a real Australian accent?

Speaker 4 But I'm like, oh, he's lifted so many accents.

Speaker 1 I feel like it's kind of like Hilaria Bobby. How do you say cucumber? Like, I feel like that was him.

Speaker 4 She cracks me.

Speaker 2 But truthfully, I mean, after just having been to Australia, I understood it a little bit more because we are not far from where he's actually from, which was from Brunei.

Speaker 2 And so I was like, maybe there's some level of, but I'm like, Boston has a different accent than us. What do you mean

Speaker 2 you have an Australian accent?

Speaker 1 Well, you were just at an event last night with Whitney Levitt.

Speaker 1 I love her. What are your thoughts on Secret Lives of Mormon Wives?

Speaker 2 I was just saying I love Whitney, but I've never seen season one of Secret Lives of Mormon or Lives of Mormon Wives. I only watched season two.

Speaker 2 So I think that might have skewed my decision a little bit. Everyone tells me that she and I look alike.
So we like have a whole...

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's like my number one comment on my picture. So I thought that was fun to see her.

Speaker 1 And your thoughts on Taylor Frankie Paul being bachelorette?

Speaker 2 I think it's the craziest thing ever, but I'm kind of excited for the drama.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I think it'll be good.

Speaker 5 Were you a bachelor fan?

Speaker 2 I was. I watched your season.
Oh, wow.

Speaker 2 What year were you on?

Speaker 5 16.

Speaker 2 I was in a sorority at the time. And so your season was like, everybody goes to the sorority house.
It was huge. I loved it then.
I'm watching Golden Bachelor.

Speaker 4 You are?

Speaker 2 Are you not?

Speaker 4 No. It's so cute.

Speaker 4 Stop following it.

Speaker 5 Yeah, we've kind of, we know.

Speaker 1 Well, you know, like what he's the like whole thing about him being.

Speaker 2 Oh, he said he can't talk to, or he doesn't want to head into it. He's like, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, woman over 60.

Speaker 1 And then definitely did.

Speaker 1 he was like i regret that was an accident and then the first night he was like ever kind of over 60's gotta kill we really liked the first season it was very heartwarming and and joan our first bacherette wonderful person and that was very like sweet and sentimental but what a bummer i i like the women i like the girl with the dimple she's so cute yeah i think watching the like friendships of the contestants is a little bit more heartwarming than like watching them try to fall in love with someone who clearly is like but i'm excited for taylor i hope um i hope she i hope she gives it the bachelor franchise relevancy again because i feel like i love a polarizing figure that's one thing about me is i'm always gonna like the least least liked person on a show was your

Speaker 1 friendship with paige was is there actual beef there did y'all not just are you just like two people who like don't really like get along or are you like we're actually like great friends and people just read into that we were such me and paige are so close that was the weirdest page's um tan she was tanna's assistant okay and then she would co-host on Canceled a Lot.

Speaker 2 And people like made this imaginary beef and competition between me and Paige when Paige and I hung out so much more even than me and Tana. Like we were so close.

Speaker 2 And it was the strangest thing to witness because, you know, we look at each other wrong and everyone's like, They hate her.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 They are disgusting, hateful girls.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Or it'd be like, y'all disagree on something and be like, oh my God,

Speaker 2 or you make a joke. Like, I don't know.
But Paige is amazing. She's one of the funniest people on the planet.
And she's just, I want the world for Paige.

Speaker 5 She's the best anything uh you didn't get to talk about or say that you wanted to talk about please let me on the challenge

Speaker 4 of course

Speaker 2 i don't know big brother i think oh my god big brother i don't think they would let me on big brother but i think they they are really careful to not ever have like influencers like maybe celebrity big brother that has influencers but then it's like you also have to be like a celebrity so that also kind of

Speaker 2 categorizes that by now but i really want to be on big brother

Speaker 2 um or traders anyone who will have me, really.

Speaker 4 I'll go anywhere.

Speaker 2 Well, thank you guys so much for having me.

Speaker 4 Yeah, thanks.

Speaker 5 It was great to get to know you. You seem like a lovely person.

Speaker 4 Thank you. Stay offline.
I'm offline. I'm on comments.

Speaker 4 Can't get to her.

Speaker 1 Also, honestly, I have to say something that like truly helped my mental health was

Speaker 1 restricting my comments under like on Instagram to people that I follow or people who followed me like since.

Speaker 1 the beginning because it's like i'm not allowing people who don't follow me to comment under my page hateful stuff.

Speaker 1 And I'm not allowing people who like just followed me yesterday because they saw TikTok shaming me or clowning me just to come and just have you gone on Reddit and read about yourself.

Speaker 4 That used to be my literal heroine. Like, that's crazy.

Speaker 2 I haven't gotten,

Speaker 2 well, and I haven't gotten at least a year. I haven't been on Reddit because that was like, had I stayed on that pattern in my life, I really genuinely think I would have killed myself.

Speaker 2 Like, it was so dark.

Speaker 5 I do have my comments completely restricted on, especially since the miles things for thing first happened i i did that on instagram um tick tock has a new feature where like you can filter every you have to approve every single comment oh that's nice which is too much work that is a lot of work yeah so that's what it is i mean there's a there's there's blocking comments so that like you're you know especially if there's rumors about you and things like that like you you might want to restrict your page because you don't want people like you know having discourse on your page about bullshit like i get that but it really just comes down to you not reading your shit.

Speaker 5 Like the, you know, it's none of your, it's not your, it's really, it's not your business. And honestly, like the life of any type of public figure, it's like,

Speaker 5 don't be a fan of yourself in a way.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 5 You know, like it's like you have to disconnect

Speaker 1 and just it's so hard.

Speaker 4 It's so hard.

Speaker 2 I just, for me, right now, I only have it because of the photo. You can't block a photo comment on your TikTok.
So it's like just thousands of the photo all day, every day.

Speaker 2 And it's like, I think the photo looks bad. Of course, like, I don't want it all over my page.
I don't want everybody who opens my comments to see the photo a thousand times.

Speaker 2 But also, like you're saying, now I have to consume every single one.

Speaker 2 It's bad. I just, you know what?

Speaker 2 Need to get rid of it.

Speaker 1 Well, we'll ask one last time for the fans listening. Is canceled actually over?

Speaker 2 I think canceled is over.

Speaker 4 Yes. Okay.

Speaker 2 Maybe we talk sometimes about doing like one live show a year because the live shows were so like amazing and fulfilling and special. And so maybe we would end up doing something like that.

Speaker 2 But the show itself, at least in my head, I think it's over. Okay.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Okay.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Well, we're excited to see what's next for you.

Speaker 4 Thank you.

Speaker 5 Where can people follow you, find you all that fun stuff?

Speaker 2 I'm Brooke Schofield on everything.

Speaker 1 Send nice comments.

Speaker 4 Yes. Please.
And yeah. Thank you.

Speaker 4 Yay.

Speaker 5 All right. Well, thanks for listening, guys.
Bye.

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