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What's going on, everybody?

Welcome back to another exciting episode of the Vile Files Reality Recap Edition.

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It's like when he doesn't know how to pronounce someone's name and he's like

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Allison Williams is here later this episode to promote her new movie, Regretting You, Another Colleen Hoover Banger.

I feel like Colleen Hoover is the Nicholas Sparks of

the John Green, if you will.

No, the Nicolas Sparks.

Okay.

Who's John Green?

Who's John Green?

Baltimore Stars.

Paper Towns.

I think I missed that.

Nicholas Sparks.

Nicholas Sparks.

Well, Allison Williams is obviously famously known for her appearance in girls on

HBO.

The Megan movies.

Huge Megan guy right here.

Yeah.

Huge girls fan here.

Yeah.

Fuck her.

Yeah.

She's also a bit of a reality TV fan.

I met Allison Williams when I was first a month into LA at like a bachelor viewing party.

It was Ben Higgins season.

Oh, nice.

Anyway, she's watching some reality TV.

So I'm sure we'll talk about that with her as well.

When I'm, you know, Salt Lake, I know she's into Salt Lake City.

You don't know.

Maybe she's also into Love is Blind.

We'll find out when she's here.

Oh, my God.

It's always so exciting to find out.

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Brooke Schofield is with us this Wednesday for a definitely deep dive into her life.

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They canceled it.

They canceled.

They have a very interesting relationship with the internet.

So it's a very fascinating discussion with Brooke.

And she is with us tomorrow for a going deeper you will not want to miss.

What did you guys do this weekend?

Oh, my gosh, Mary.

We put up our Christmas tree, of course.

Oh, you're early.

Okay.

Well, some could say, or some could say.

Right on time.

Right on time.

Thank you.

Yeah.

You know, we do a bit of traveling.

We're busy bees.

And you don't like Halloween?

Are you skipping Halloween decor?

No.

No, I've had Halloween decor.

We're here for Halloween.

Okay.

We've had Halloween decor up until now.

So we've had some jack-o'-lanterns and some skeletons,

you know, all the cutesy little things.

And River, I got her the most boring costume on all the time.

Do we know what it is?

It's the cat.

But I did ask her.

I said, what is this?

And I showed it to her and she said, meow, meow.

So at least she knows what it is.

Perfect.

Next year, hopefully she can tell me what she wants because I'm exhausted.

What are you guys going to be?

I'm going as.

Oh, Nick, it sounds like you might be going as something.

Wow.

Nick's going as the scratch post.

Yes, she's just like, okay,

incredible incredible.

And I'm going as the hot owner of the cat and the scratch post.

That's perfect.

That's perfect.

I want to be the hot one.

Sorry, you can't.

You're tall and you're a scratch post.

Yeah.

There was a comment saying that one of you guys should dress up as a litter box.

Yeah.

Oh, my gosh.

Perfect.

Well, I get shit on all the time.

I feel like

Thanksgiving is the appropriate time to start putting up Christmas decorations, in my opinion.

Yes, usually we do wait until November 1st to put up our Christmas tree.

But like Nick said, we're busy bees and we were like, oh, the next time that we're home, we don't want to put up our Christmas tree.

Then we just want to walk in and be like, oh, Christmas.

We also just need to feel something this weekend.

Now he's, I've become like me.

We're so busy every day, but then we have like a Saturday, nothing to do.

That's awesome.

Well, that's what I would think, but it'll be like 10:30.

And I was like, What should we do today?

What do you want to do?

Where should we go?

Where should we shop?

What should we do?

I'm like, fuck, nothing.

Yeah.

You should do absolutely nothing.

Then it'll be like 11:45.

What should we do?

Where should we have lunch?

Where should we go?

Should we explore?

I'm not sure if I can do it.

Do you feel like you get anxious if you're like, because you're so busy?

And then when you're suddenly not busy, you're like, oh my gosh, like this feels wrong.

Yeah.

That's how I feel.

It's like I'm constantly overloaded.

And then the second I get a break, I'm like, oh God, like I'm such a loser.

Like, what is my, what am I doing with my life?

I'm like, or I should be like organizing and cleaning out every drawer.

Like, I should just be doing something.

And then it's like, I feel also feel that way when River naps because I'm like, we've moved on to one nap a day.

And I feel like I have two hours where it's like I can get stuff done.

Everything done.

But then also those two hours, I'm like, oh, my God.

Woo!

It would feel nice to just sit.

I think you should just sit.

And then I sit for like 30 minutes.

Then I'm like, oh my God, she's about to wake up.

And I have so much to do.

I just can't relate.

Yeah, I can't relate either.

Any day that I get that I can lay in bed all day and watch my shows.

We'll be doing that.

Phone is on.

Do not disturb.

Do not talk to me.

Don't want to hear from you.

Bed rot days are good for your mental health as long as they're not all the time.

Thank you.

What's the aesthetic of the tree this year?

You know, I ordered.

It's the same as it every year.

Is it different color lights or is it?

Is it so dope?

No.

It takes.

No, I didn't tell Nick this.

Breaking news.

I hired a company to look like the outside of our house with Christmas lights.

Yes, I did.

Wait, really?

Yes, I did.

Because you.

Yes, I did.

You won't do it.

You.

Because I was like, you know what?

We need the Christmas spirit outside of our house.

And Nick's just too lazy to do it.

You know,

he doesn't feel like climbing up on the roof.

Christmas lights is a hazard because that's the one where you fall off and break a neck.

So hire someone to do that.

How much does that cost?

Don't worry about it.

I mean, that's a good business model.

Putting up someone's Christmas lights.

Someone to do your Christmas decorations.

I do think an even better way for that to go would be you put up someone's Christmas lights and then you also like ask your like 10-year-old, like, can you wrap these cords and just make them stand out there so they still get that experience?

The experience.

Because that was very, that was very building for me as a child.

We never did the outside of our house for Christmas.

And I think it was probably because my mom's a single mom.

She was like, I don't, you know, I can't climb up that house.

Sorry, kids.

No, like, what, what do you, is there like a menu of options, like tasteful, elegant, or like, yeah, you can do like colored lights.

Yeah, you could do colored or just white lights.

And we went white.

There won't be like a giant candy cane in our front lawn, will there be?

No, no, no, no.

Just the lights.

I'm sure.

I'm going to blow up cartoons.

I do feel like we're going to be able to do it.

Are we going to go Christian?

Are we going to go?

Are we going to go the nativity scene?

Or Winter Wonderland.

Yeah.

Are we going to go like um what's um baby jesus holding a menorah old saint neck wish people winter wishes

happy holidays marry x-masks i used to work for a company that one one one season it was winter wishes i'm like we can't even say it's a holiday now we're just celebrating cold

winter wishes

snowy dreams

snowy dreams you know what we get to do this year though tell me Elf on the shelf.

Oh, cute.

You better.

I'm one of those people who's old enough where, like, I don't remember my childhood.

You know, those like Christmas movies where like the, the humbug character is just like hates the holidays.

And then like, there's a memory of like something happens and it flashes back to when he was a kid and he had a heart.

That's me.

You're like, you know who you remind me of?

You remind me of the critic, the food critic in Ratatouille.

You know, where it's like, he's evil, he's evil.

And then he sits there and he eats the Ratatouille.

He's like, he's like, wait, I love all of these rats around me.

And I love food.

Yeah.

And I love you.

Wait, I'm hypocritical.

Until you eat the ratatouille.

Right.

Yeah.

He eats the ratatouille.

Uh-huh.

It shows your humanity.

I feel like Elf on the Shelf will bring that out.

You know,

I know you don't know what it is right now in this moment, but once you see it.

Do we think Nick will be like doing it?

I could foresee Nick getting very stressed with this.

It's like, what do you mean every day we have to do a new thing and put it in a new place?

And it needs to be like swinging for a while.

It is a coming.

You're just making a mess, Snap.

Yeah, come on.

We have to what?

So elf on the shelf, every day you have to move the elf to a new location, and it's like before the child gets up.

No, the elf moves itself.

Right.

Sorry, for children that are listening, turn this off.

It's watching the kid to report back to Santa Claus if they were.

So, we're inviting a stranger into our house.

Not a stranger, it's part of your family.

Don't traumatize River.

It's part of your family.

That's true.

But just make sure that you let River name them.

Natalie, I have the DVD.

I can let Nick watch the movie.

It explains.

Right.

I don't know if we have a DVD.

What Nick is doing right now is the equivalent of how you rewrite the synopsis of like a Disney movie like Pixar, where it's like finding Nemo and it's like somebody escaped from a mental hospital and is trying to help them find their son.

Like it's like that's Nick's being like, what do you mean we're inviting a stranger to our house on the show?

You're like, Santa, actually, low-key, problematic.

Twenty-week on man.

On man.

I bet she didn't wake up, turn on this episode, and expect an entire segment about Christmas.

We're just excited.

What are you going in?

Are you dressing up for Halloween?

I am, but I don't, it's like all basic.

I just like ordered some like vampire stuff and like just some like push-up bras, you know,

for Halloween.

Fake teeth and push-up bras.

Yeah, exactly.

A little bit of fake blood.

Duh.

Are you?

No, I picked Connor up from the airport yesterday.

Yes, we still do that.

That's my sense of having a healthy relationship.

And then he goes.

LAX.

Yep.

Yep.

That's lovely.

Because he changed his flight to come home early just because he missed me.

So he came home early.

Where is he flying from?

Houston, three and a half hours.

It's a stop.

It was a stop in between.

So for a direct flight, last minute, I said, you know what?

You came to see me.

I will come get you.

And I was so mad because they've closed down the 405.

I don't know if you know.

It's all just a nightmare.

He asked me what we're being for Halloween.

What we're what we're being for Halloween.

And I said, I don't know, but I'm sure I'll pull something together.

And that's what we're going with right now.

So no idea.

I don't know yet.

Yes.

Oh, you're married.

I am going to slut myself out as Lisa Rena.

And my best friend is going to be Harry Hamlin.

It's landing better than your Rosnick boys.

The Da Vinky twins.

It's the thing of like, I was like, okay, I do.

I was goofy last year because me and my same best friend, Shadow Audra,

went as Niad from the movie Niad.

And that was so stupid.

It was just like really dumb and gay.

But no one got it.

I will be going as Lisa Rina and I will be overdrawing my lips and I will be like full.

I just need to get like spray paint, brown spray paint for my hair that won't like mess it up

but i basically do have the rena haircut if i just like give myself a blowout are you a halloween fan justin i am this year not really though i want to chill and just watch movies but i will be dressing up

as what challengers oh hell yeah witch flare yeah with max so the two the churro scene who's uh she's gonna be zendaya yeah who's zendaya we don't have a zendaya you're looking for a values tribute

foregoing the zendaya some would say zendaya was irrelevant to the pot.

I will say

I was not expecting

a Halloween costume I always wanted to do, but just never had the balls to because it's so cold during Halloween would be a Victoria's Secret Angel.

And they did bring back the Victoria Secret fashion show.

I remember when the Kardashians did that a few years ago.

They were all angels.

Yes.

Oh, smart.

That was iconic.

But Kindle was not walking this year.

Did you notice?

Yes.

I wonder why.

She didn't walk last year either, I don't think.

Did she?

Yeah.

And Bella Hadid resurfaced after Yolanda's post looking better than ever.

I literally go, bitch, and like pause the screen baby.

That was my first thought.

She's glowing.

I didn't watch it, but I was really excited because I saw photos of Angel Reese.

And I just, it makes me really, really excited that a WNBA player can be like a hot model.

Hell yeah.

And because I'm like, I think so often they're like masculinized because they play basketball.

And then.

These girls, like their physiques are incredible.

They're built like models.

They're awesome body fat.

Yeah, muscular.

And Angel Reeves, like, bodied.

And she looks so good.

So honestly, she bodies on the court too, though, with those lashes.

Like, every time I see her, I'm like, there she is.

Like, she's always giving glam on the court.

She is.

I grew up watching the Victoria Secret fashion show, like, putting on the pajamas.

We would put parties together.

Unobtainable.

Yes.

And there was something about like these elusive, gorgeous creatures that, because I feel like Victoria Secret put a lot of money behind the angels, right?

So it was like when you were like 14, 15, you're like, maybe one day I'll grow up and I too will be an angel.

Well, because now they're influencers.

No, that's like the, and I get it because from a marketing standpoint, you know, everyone's online, you know?

But the thing about like the Victoria Secret Angels that was so like amazing was the fact that you never really heard them talk throughout the year.

They had other campaigns, but throughout the year, you'd see these commercials, things blowing up, wings going in the wind, hair, the blowouts, the whole the abs.

And you're like.

Wow.

And then at the Victoria Secret fashion show, you get a little in-between segment and they'd like maybe pop a joke.

Here's my workout.

Here's my whatever, how to be an empowered woman.

And it was like amazing.

It was like, oh my God, this elusive creature has a voice and maybe one day i'll hear her talk more like i don't know i'll wait till next year like it was like i'm gonna work out i'm gonna get myself together and it was always right around christmas too so it was like the gift that keeps on giving this year it felt kind of like they were trying to copy this the savage fenty shows it wasn't like these there's no in-between segments it was just like a concert Some of these performers were singing four and five songs.

And like, I wasn't really focused on any of the models.

And they brought back the original models, Adriana Lima, Alessandra Imbrasio.

Biranda Kerr Kerr was not there.

Was she not?

Which I found interesting.

There was a couple that were missing, but for the most part, there was a lot of them there.

And I was just like, this isn't giving epic.

They had some iconic models from like this era, though.

Like Alex Consani was out there.

Like a lot of really big people.

But it's like, I feel like none of them have their moment because they're not actual Victoria's Secret angels.

They're just like models walking in a show, which like that was the whole thing about Victoria's Secret.

It's like you wanted to be a part of this franchise so badly.

It was exclusive.

Yeah, I was going to say they kept the mystery alive by keeping it like exclusive and probably not sharing too much.

Where now it's like, oh, when you get to know people, you're kind of like, oh, like everyone is literally flawed.

Yes.

Or you're just like, oh, there's Gigi Hadid.

We want exclusive.

Yeah.

We want to be not invited so that we can want to go.

And finding out that like you had to know somebody to get invited, it was just like, oh my God, maybe one day.

And then they canceled it.

And I was like, oh, no.

Dude, the moment you're like, this is for everybody.

People are like, well, I'm busy.

Remember when the weekend performed and it was like two weeks after him and Bella Hadid broke up?

Yeah.

And she like was walking past and they like touched each other and it was like so drama.

Yeah.

Like, oh my gosh.

Yeah, you know he is running.

Radius drawing.

Pop culture used to exist.

Yes.

It was the year Justin Bieber performed and it was like the standalone with Barbara Palvin and like Ariana Grande getting almost taken out by a Victoria Secret agent wing.

There's just like iconic moments.

Okay, here's my question.

Is it the fault of the Victoria's Secret fashion show for not doing this or just the like the fault of there being a lack of like monoculture and pop culture in these big moments in general across media That's a really good point I think it is really hard to have that exclusivity and the like the mystery still alive I don't know that they have a choice but to like be what they are today, but I just don't know that it has the same lore that it used to well It doesn't have as much money as it used to either right because wasn't there like the like ten thousand dollar bra or something like that

the fantasy and like is that a thing now?

I don't think it is yeah because that's the thing where I'm like if they just put so much money behind these people that you constantly see them.

You associated Alessandra and Brosio with Victoria's Secret.

Now it's like, okay, you walk in and it's Hailey Bieber, which like great, but it's like she's not sequestered to this franchise.

You know what it is?

Where there's like campaign models and then there's like runway models.

Yes.

And it kind of they took runway models, but it felt campaign.

Yes.

But it was like an exclusive club that like nobody could get into.

Yeah.

That was like, maybe if I like work out every single day someday I could, but no.

Because it was unattainable.

And that was like what was so cool about it.

I don't know.

I agree.

Do you guys think that Kim Kardashian should have been at the Victoria's Secret Fashion Show with like her full face mask?

She's outgrown it.

You think so?

Honestly, I love that she does this because it just shows how iconic she really is and that she can literally have her.

She did this at the Met Gal a few years ago.

Like she can go completely covered and everyone knows exactly who it is.

It was like scarecrow.

No, they know who it is because they're like, this is Kim Kardashian.

She's getting announced.

Oh, true, true, true.

But like, what if it wasn't Kim Kardashian?

She's being announced by the people there, but not the end of the day.

We've all seen that

from some kind of Instagram or headline names.

No, it's not Kim Kardashian.

They're not holding.

You're like, oh, my God.

I totally would have known.

On the red carpet, that person is not holding a sign that says Kim Kardashian when she walks.

You know they're not.

When you do a red carpet, it literally do literally write your name on it.

They don't do that for Kim Kardashian or Taylor Swift or the big stars.

They're not writing those names down.

Nope, they don't.

If you're walking in a red carpet and you see someone in a full face mask, mask i'm gonna guess it's two people kim kardashian meredith marks and meredith marks or kanye forest i guess but he's not really going to red carpet anymore yeah he did for a long period of time actually so he's she's just copying kanya oh i mean he did dress her some people are saying they think it's because she got a facelift

no because she showed a video of her face yeah i did yeah i saw the video wait how are we not talking about this she was asked about her viral pube uh thong only

that's sold out in every wild

please pull this up if case nick hasn't seen this but it's crazy please tell me you haven't i haven't yo this is a treat have you seen this of course i was like how could you not my thing is just like you know what's cheaper growing out your bush yeah it's just like one of those things where i'm like you just have to

yes this is underwear that people are buying it's a thong guys i was ahead of the curve did you get

remember

the bush literally

she listened to this episode and she was like i con it

i'm gonna make a thong i mean that i respect about her that just shows her power.

She's just fucking with people.

Yeah, she's like, she's like, I'm gonna make something that's stupid and no one's gonna want to buy, and I'm gonna get them to buy it.

And it's not only is it sold out, but she was like, oh, she was asked about it.

She was like, oh, we didn't know that it would be such a big deal.

We were just like laughing about it back there.

I was like, how would you not know that this was going to go viral?

My culture is not your costume, Kim.

Like, do not.

She did this with the nipple piercings too.

Like, stop.

The nipple one made sense, though.

Because the nipple one was good for people that like had augmentations or reductions and like didn't have it's a nipple piercing and they said this one it helps for people with alopecia so there's a there's a could you imagine like pulling down your pants be like oh oh and then you're like just kidding

i feel like this is also one of those things why it's so important to pay attention to like what beauty standards are and making choices for yourself because i'm like if you went and got lasered and then you're sad because you can't grow it back that you're buying a $60 thong then don't buy into beauty standards no they don't mine mine but i'm happy it's when you're i mean it's like, depends on your hormones.

Like, as soon as I got pregnant, there we go.

My hair was like, you said next to me.

Hey, girl.

Hey, girl.

I'm back.

Nick's like, it goes back.

I paid for that, and it's a waste.

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a hot take oh I got a couple of those too oh yeah well Nick said enough of yours literally he said we don't want to hear from you for now I just want to give the people caught astray there

hey Nick in the household I have a pretty scorching hot take actually so hot you might need not even want to air it

but I think the only reality TV dating show out there right now that's realistic is Love is Blind and my reasoning for that is that Love is Blind is the only reality dating TV show to date that I'm aware of that has acknowledged politics and I know you don't like talking about politics but in my opinion polic political compatibility is vital for relationship success now more than ever.

It used to not so much be a thing, but now it just is, whether we like to acknowledge it or not.

And other shows like The Bachelor and like

Love Island,

you don't see it being acknowledged.

And it's like the networks are too scared to go there out of fear of it being too controversial.

But I really respect the hell out of

the Love is Blind network for going there because those are real actual conversations that are going to be had in a successful, serious relationship.

Let me know your thoughts.

Interesting take.

Damn.

I feel like it's more it's less about bachelor being afraid and more about the contestants being afraid it's like we heard a little snippet of how nick and annie may or may not feel whether there was editing there or not and like yeah i don't disagree with this take i think i like that they kept it in it felt same like it really showed some insight i do agree i think people are scared to talk about politics on the show i definitely wouldn't bring it up on the bachelor.

I don't think I would lead with that.

But if I were to get into a relationship with somebody, it's definitely a conversation I'm having.

So I don't disagree with her take.

I think it's interesting to have it on the show.

I guess I just disagree with the sentiment that now more than ever, you have to be able to do it in order to have a successful relationship.

Like if you know me, with my friends or people around in my circle, I enjoy having these types of conversations with people because I have them with people where we can actually disagree on things and discuss them and like have a good time afterwards.

Like even on topics where you're just like,

oh, I'm a little, okay, I feel passionate about that.

But now I just think like the caller sentiment was like, it didn't used to be this way.

Like the topics we're arguing about in politics are no different than the topics people were arguing about 30 or 40 years ago.

So I think it's interesting to have these conversations.

I just don't like the toxicity that often follows it when it comes to the fan base because I think on at least the people online, I think human to human, if you're in a safe space with friends, you could have a conversation and say, I feel this way.

And even with someone that says, well, not only do I not feel that way, like here's why, like, honestly, like, why your opinion or feelings hurt my feelings, right?

But like online, people aren't capable of having that type of discourse.

There's also just like no winning, I think.

You know, I think like when you're doing it with someone not on a national TV show, there is at, you know, to Nick's point to be like, oh, you know, I don't agree with that, but this is how I think and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

If you do it on a national TV show, someone's going to disagree with you and you will get like hounded in your comments and your DMs.

And it scares people to the point where it's like they don't want to talk to you.

To that point, I don't think it's right to put reality TV people on knowing that some of this stuff is edited, nuance is taken out.

Not to say that some people might just say things that a lot of people think are wrong.

But no, I don't think the online bullying, harassing, and just the attempt at literally taking people down and ultimately it results in death threats and things like that.

I do think we have to protect the people on these shows.

Because again, like what Annie said this season was very offensive to a lot of people.

But like most people online aren't saying, hey, Annie, like if you ever had a moment, I'd love to like.

Take some time to have a conversation with like why that was like hurtful to like people in my family.

And if you're open into listening, I'd love to have that type of conversation.

It's not what people are saying, you know,

and it's not it's it's not trying to get people connected or on the same page it just becomes a divisive thing and then you have you know again like some you know more like hardcore religious people who like again dogmatic in their faith will like you know speak up and say why you know you know most people can be religious and an ally at the same time.

They can be, you know, that that is possible for a lot of people, but online, the discourse is so toxic and dangerous.

Like it is, you know, I don't think for the point of having this conversation, you have to put people's mental health at risk.

I feel like, one, it is going to be a conversation in a relationship.

And although I do not think Love is Blind is maybe the most realistic dating show, I do think that is realistic.

And I appreciate.

that they have those conversations because I don't agree with this, but the way reality TV dating shows work is everyone online is going to find out your politics, whether you like it or not.

And for them to at least be able to like say it themselves versus someone online like digging up something that is out of context or whatever.

I think it's like say it with your chest.

And then like people, I don't think anyone should get like death threats, but I think having those conversations is healthy.

I also think in relationships, like I don't think people should be forced to, I don't think you should be forced, but I think if you want to, you should be able to, because if it is like something that's important to you in your relationship, like for me, you know, I'm someone who's like, me as a person, to some people, I am a political topic, you know, which is like weird because to me, it's not.

Like, I'm chilling, but I think for the sake of reality TV dating shows, it's always interesting.

And in the way it's fun to like

see how that plays out with couples, just as like from an anthropologic perspective, I enjoy it.

I also think that it's kind of an unfair comparison just because I'm like, love is blind.

You're literally talking to somebody you don't know.

You're going to hang out with them for two weeks and then end in marriage.

So of course you need to get a lot of these tough conversations out.

Whereas a love island, if I I sat there and watched two people talking about their politics when you're in the villa in bikinis, it's kind of a joke.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It really depends on the show.

So, I just think it's the stakes are a bit different.

Where I'm like, I love Love is Blind, I love Love Island, but I'm just saying to compare the two is apples to oranges.

Very true.

Let's get to our next one.

Hey, I'm a huge fan of the show,

so I hope this gets played.

But my hot take is that the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills needs a brand new cast.

I'm just not invested in any of the characters anymore.

I think that they're kind of all old and done with, even Kyle.

I just think they need a brand new cast to kind of shake things up.

The only person I can get invested in anymore is Kathy Hilton because I think she's hilarious.

I agree with that.

But other than that, I think they need a new cast.

Yeah, I have so many other hot takes.

I'll probably call again.

But yes, love your show.

Bye.

Thank you for the hot take.

She's like, and I'm going to remain anonymous.

Keep Bose.

That's all I have to say.

Keep both.

Keep both.

Bose is fantastic.

She was an exceptional housewife.

Has she only been on one season?

Yeah, last season was her first season.

I don't agree with this.

I just have one.

I have one hot take in comparison, though, because I'm like, Beverly Hills versus Salt Lake City or Miami.

Like Salt Lake City, something pops up, Lisa's whatever, Bronwyn's marriage, whatever.

There's always some new shit that's happening every episode that you're like, okay, we're unfolding this group of friends.

Where I'm like, Beverly Hills will have one fucking issue.

And they give me 19 episodes of these women talking about the same fucking thing.

Yeah.

I don't care.

That's a producer problem.

I don't typically agree with it.

I don't think a refresh in this franchise, a complete refresh, hasn't really served the franchise well, like Roni being the producer.

I was an example.

Sure.

You need some, it's just like with Batrination.

There's a formula that works of like, you know, people are too lazy to be like, I don't want to get to know a whole new cast.

And then nowadays, if you're, if you're casting a whole new group, it's going to be performative.

It's going to seem fake like Roni was.

You need to, like,

I'm fine with, like, I'm fine with like keeping the, the, the, the pressure on and being like, you know what?

You're out, you're in, you know, always kind of bringing fresh look to the cast.

We have Garcell's gone, right?

Now we have, I just can't watch another season of Dariette being like, Kyle, why won't you be a good friend to me?

Like, you know, that's a producer choice.

I listen, I think Kyle is like the queen and

seems like a great person, but as a housewife, I'm kind of, I have no interest in her and Mauricio's Mauricio's relationship.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Story.

I've no, no interest.

I'm, I'm interested in if is Kai if Kyle's willing to date.

Let's see it.

I'm into that.

Yeah.

You know, if Mauricio's willing to, I would love to see him on the slopes with some of the influencers.

Maybe the cast of Love Island.

He was recently seen in a.

He was in the background of Andrea's Instagram.

From Love Island.

Yeah.

Anyways, I'm into that.

I'm into that.

I am not into the staged performative scene setting, you know, that they do to show up to remind the audience they're still a team yes um and then you know kyle

talking about not talking about her marriage i'm so completely over that yeah i feel like these women have their boundaries up of what they will and won't share anymore because they're all veterans at this point they've all have like over five seasons under their belt essentially so it's just like they can say i'm not sharing this but i'll share this and it's like no we need to see authenticity between these relationships because it's what you're willing to share or call out on someone else it gets old it's boring i love sutton i don't think she can help herself in the best possible way.

And then she has a messy life that she just likes.

I'm interested to see how Rachel Roy.

Yeah.

Rachel Roy does.

No.

Rachel Rennie does.

Rachel Zoe.

Zoe.

Rachel.

Yeah.

I'm interested to see her.

Rachel Ray, I love her too.

Yeah.

Rachel Roy was

a good hair.

Yeah.

Allegedly.

Allegedly.

You know she's going to be fresh meat.

Well, Rachel Zoe can handle herself, though.

Yeah, I'm like, that one's scary.

I just think, like, think of any reboot.

Like, what performed better, Roni Legacy or Roni Rebooted?

Isn't Denise back too?

Denise is back as, like, a friend for, like, a limited pickup.

So that's where, yeah.

Like, I think people are committed to personalities, and people are committed to Beverly Hills as these personalities.

I'm even at the stage where I'm like, bring Liserena back.

Yes.

I was just about to say that.

I need some toxicity.

I need some shaking up.

She said she's not coming back, so I don't think she's going to come back.

I know she's like really in her model era and just like absolutely devouring everything as per huge, but I want to see that on TV.

To validate our hot take a little bit, I mean, some would say you take down the Queen Bee to like make people work again.

So, I mean, technically, that's what happened when Jen Shaw was removed.

It gave other people more like room to be who they are.

So maybe there's something to be said about that.

I feel like Kyle stifles the creativity of the rest of the cast.

Interesting.

I will say my hot take is I think there is one thing Kyle Richard could do that would lock me in for the rest of the season.

And I think we all know what that is.

Morgan.

Yep.

Okay.

Well, Morgan's never coming on.

Well, we got one more scorching hot take.

So let's get to it.

Hi, my name's Katie.

I actually have two hot takes.

First, I think on Real Housewives of Miami, the first episode of the reunion, Gertie is losing her mind, coming out of nowhere, being upset about things that were resolved on the show, acting like she's the only person that this has ever happened to, not giving anybody else grace.

I think she is just on one.

My second hot take is with the Real Housewives of

Orange County.

I think that Gretchen is a problem.

I think she kind of proved that she is the problem and that she has loose lips when she drinks some alcohol and clearly could have said something to Katie and then turned around and said, I never said that.

That's not true.

That's a lie.

I think she's kind of proving that Katie,

she probably did say that to Katie, and I can't wait to see what happens.

So yeah, those are my hot takes.

Thank you guys.

Same girl.

It reminded me of Gretchen going, it sounds like you're the problem.

So you're the putster.

It's not the same thing.

I definitely agree with the Orange County hot take.

I think Gretchen is 100% the problem.

I do love her, though.

We needed the shake-up just to make Tamra seem more human.

Yeah.

Because Tamara was coming after everyone the last couple seasons.

Honestly, I think Gretchen's an amazing housewife.

And I agree with the caller because, again, like the same reason I like Sutton.

It's like I I have respect for like the more calculate, like the Tamra.

Like I respect how she moves.

Yeah.

She goes smart pants.

Oh yeah.

You know what I'm saying?

And then I like Gretchen because like she's not.

You know?

Clip it.

Clip it.

Yeah.

She thinks she is, but she isn't.

No.

She like can't.

It's like her life is so messy.

And I think like Gretchen has this like.

She pretends to be happy with her life more than she is, you know, but portrays it as to be like living the dream.

Oh my god.

That's awesome.

No, literally.

I'm like, you know what?

Somebody who has a happy life doesn't have time for focusing on every headline that comes up about someone they don't like.

On the gurdy thing, listen, I can't have a rational take on Gurdy because I ride for her.

Yeah.

That's my take on that.

Gertie, let her, let her cook.

Listen, Gertie makes almost no sense ever.

And she's a bit of a what?

No,

I'm with you.

She makes sense.

I said this.

I don't know.

I think sometimes Gertie is performing.

And this is meant to be a compliment about Gertie the person, not Gertie the housewife.

Not coming off as one.

I have my ways.

Listen, because I think she's always want, she wants to like...

Just a reminder, we will be seeing them at Brava Clock.

She wants to justify, obviously, being there.

But like,

you know, we'll segue into part three as we cover it.

But like that part three, when they had that moment with her and her husband.

Yeah.

It takes a lot to make a relationship work, especially a marriage, especially over the years.

And her and Gertie, from everything I've been able to tell, she has a really great and healthy relationship with her husband.

And as a human, I have so much respect for whatever they have done as a couple to make this relationship work.

And to make a relationship work like that, it requires an immense amount of selflessness.

like sacrifice, which is like the antithesis of what it means to be a great housewife.

You have to be a self-centered egomaniac, a little narcissistic to be the best possible housewife.

And I just think it's hard for Gertie to really come across as an authentic Greek housewife because at her core, she's a great person.

She's a great person.

Yeah,

that was nice.

I think she gets the cancer pass and you wanted to give it to Jesse Solomon.

I think it's deserved for Gertie Albrera because she

like these women, I feel like heard she had cancer, gave her the like, aw, and then moved on so fast.

I don't know if you remember, she wasn't the one that brought it to the group.

It was Larsa.

Yeah, exactly.

So, like, I mean, yeah, I mean, I think people, the reason why people don't like Gertie of the Seasons is because they want drama, but she's bringing her life.

She's making her life.

She's realness.

And Julia is dragging stuff up from four years ago, and Gertie's like, I don't understand why you guys, like, can't support.

That is the thing.

Like, she is just too good of a person because she's like, you're supposed to be my friend.

Literally.

And so she's just like,

you know,

using Julia as PTSD?

Talk to Gertie.

She's like comic-causing her own marriage for the sake of a TV show.

Yeah.

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All right, we got 20 minutes to cover Housewife and Love is Blind.

All right.

Well, good thing we have rapid recaps of everything.

Shout out Mayor Bear.

If you missed the most recent episode of The Real Housewives of Miami, here's your rapid recap.

All right, now that we're done lezen out, let's get into the heterodrama.

Warning, it takes a sad turn.

Lisa feels like no one was there for her when her dad passed and is also mad that Larsa said Jodi was a cokehead.

Larsa apologizes to Jodi and it seems they're cool.

Whether they're AC level cool is to be seen.

Then it gets fun again.

Kiki can't eat oysters because she's celibate.

Then Shoma Air is brought up.

Stephanie Sojay just wants to talk for a damn second.

Alexia and Marisol are officially declared twins.

Get these girls in an Adam McKay style buddy comedy now.

Speaking of Marisol, she's still mad about Adriana saying she has old lady knees, so much so she's getting surgery on them.

Stephanie thinks Marisol is the real villain in the Alexia-Marisol dynamic.

Kiki doesn't think Adriana is racist, but does think she intentionally said she was ratchet.

She's also besties with the Amazon driver now.

Overall, it's been a wild ride.

Can't wait to see what next season will bring.

I do think Adriana's a little bit lighter.

Adriana?

Yeah.

Yeah.

She's messy.

Why isn't she like a real housewife?

Because she's super entertaining.

I think she will be getting that mojito.

I think she'll get the mojito.

I mean, she sat on the couch the entire reunion, so she's basically.

That is how my mother is.

If you're willing to say my sweet pussy on television, yeah, you get a mojito.

Also, I didn't say this last time, but I just think it's so funny that Adriana is like, I'm not gay.

And then she does the gayest thing she did this season was not having sex with a woman.

It was presenting Julia with her heart ripped out to her.

I'm like, that gives me.

And also,

my last thing on this, and then we can move on.

Julia Sang has recently revealed that she has PTSD

because of this whole season.

And I'm like, like, mama, that's just being with women.

You should know this by now, Julia.

She also did that to herself.

I know.

I feel like they saved the worst for last.

It was the most boring part of the reunion.

I felt it felt like it didn't.

We didn't need a part three.

It was like a whole episode of wrapping it up.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I did feel bad for Lisa though, where I was just like, I just feel like everybody on this cast just hates her because it's just like she's sitting here being like, I got nothing.

When your mom died, I did this.

I did that.

We're like, obviously, we don't want to hear tit for tat.

Like, I did this for your mom.

You should have done this for me.

But the way that Alexi was like, okay, yeah, we get it.

Enough is enough.

Enough is enough.

And everyone's like, whoa.

When Kiki was like, oh, so we're comparing grief.

Yeah.

That was a line of the night.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Other than that, it was a little bit of a bore.

You got Larsa apologizing to Jodi, which.

How long?

Yeah.

Why did that take?

Yeah.

I mean, how long is it going to last?

Exactly.

It was like the most awkward conversation.

Could you guys imagine if your mom was a housewife?

Love.

You would, like, I would be the brook's mark.

I would be like, let's make it happen.

What, what, what job would I want in this world if my mom was a housewife?

Exactly.

I'm like, half the Victory's Secret.

Angels.

Mom's housewife.

Mom's a housewife.

Right.

The Nepa babies.

That's true.

Yeah.

Aldregana did kind of win the conversation when they were like, who wrote the rules for the reunion?

And she was like, they're like, it sounded like a lawyer.

And she's like, I do go to Harvard.

Yeah.

And I was like, touche.

Yeah.

I thought they were talking about like, it was like a little sticky note.

It was like a full printout.

Yep.

Two pages.

So is Julia going to be back?

I don't think so.

Really?

I just have like a feeling.

Yeah, I don't think.

Do you think Audriana will replace her?

That would be awesome.

I think Audriana will be back next year for sure as a housewife.

I just, I don't think Julia, I don't think Gertie.

Really?

I'm with Alexia when she told us that everybody should be given another season.

Is this because you don't think that like the show will bring them back on or do you think that they're taking like steps back?

I think because the show won't.

Just based off of like viewers and storylines and what we have going on, coming to find out that Gertie and Julia's whole storyline was from two years ago.

Like Marisol and Adriana is more interesting about getting her knee surgery than it is like were you or weren't you on the cruise with me?

But do you think Julia will like add a lot with the whole hookup?

Like watching her marriage.

I was going to say the NFR

could add a lot.

That like it's going to take Martina taking some sort of action for that to solidify Julia's role.

That's sad.

I think Garcelle is the only one, Garcelle from Beverly Hills, is the only housewife where I believe that it was like her choice to leave rather than the network's choice because Garcelle has a lot going on and I don't feel like she needs this.

And I think most housewives, it's never their choice.

I think there's exceptions to that rule for the most part.

You really have to see what else they have going on and do they really need it.

Exactly.

That's why I'm like, I'd be fine with the entire cast coming back as is i think that if they are going to make any adjustments to it it's for sure going to be between julia and gertie like you're not going to stop seeing garcel on red carpets or events you're not going to stop seeing her in the scene but like other housewives if they don't have if they're not a housewife they disappear into oblivion 100 yeah 100 uh time for a little oc time for a little rapid recap of ocs katie

yes i do too every episode well shannon hosts an engagement lunch for gin to prove their friends but the rose colored glasses that she ordered did not show up.

Hopefully, that means nothing subtextually.

Gretchen pulls a church lady and says a little prayer against Tamra.

Shannon thinks she should chill.

Gina is happy for Jin's relationship, but thinks Ryan is too horny for her in a low-key, problematic way.

Gina also moved back in with Travis, who is horny for her in a woke way.

Groundlings alum, Heather DeBrow, reveals she has never farted.

Even though the first rule of improv is farts are funny, which she should know.

And they call Katie a liar.

Then are blonde and also brunette, but they're spiritually blonde.

You know what I mean?

Divas go to Amsterdam, smoke some reefer.

Hey, Shannon reminds everyone that she grew up on boats, and also she might have a toe infection.

Tamra asks her if she's a cunt.

Some of the girls go decorating, which is a combination of dick and decorating, to describe an event in which the women pay to bedazzle a dildo for decorative purposes, in case anyone was wondering.

The rest of the ladies get what the kids are calling stony baloney.

Then they go, then they all go to dinner, and everyone is actually really cool and chill for once.

This is what sex and drugs can do for you, kids.

Overall, what is the best word word for weed?

Devil's Lettuce, Mary Jane, ganja, doobies, disgust.

I hate all the above, honestly.

I think reefer is really fun.

I like ganja.

Reefer.

Reefer.

Reefer madness.

Like, it's fun.

It's stupid.

I think if I'm going to go with any of them, I'm going to go with any of the ones that Mary listed, Devil's Lettuce, maybe.

Isn't that the fun?

Devil's Lettuce.

Devil's crew.

Devil's Lettuce is fun.

Devil's Lettuce.

Because it's kind of like you can say it in passing and people are just kind of like, what salad is that?

Is that on the bottom?

Devil's Lettuce.

I like a Doobie too.

I don't know.

Doobie.

Doobie Brothers.

It's kind of fun.

Uh-huh.

When I was in my Stoner era, it was just like, blunt this, blunt that.

I was just blunt, smoking girl.

Again, another episode where I was like, yeah, Miss Katie.

And I'm like, even though we traveled a little, like,

the most interesting thing was watching Shannon consume a space cake.

Yeah.

And the editor's voiceover for talking to her daughter.

This episode of OC, and I guess Miami just kind of reminded me why I love Salic so much.

Because like, kind of to your point with Beverly Hills, there are definitely episodes of OC where it's like, I didn't miss anything.

No.

It was like a phone episode the whole time.

You know, like you can scroll on your phone and be like, no, I didn't miss anything.

Honestly, I feel like it's nice to have those sometimes.

I do like Salt Lake City more.

It is my favorite, obviously.

But I don't know.

I just, it is nice sometimes to just see people chilling.

It kind of takes you back to like older housewives episodes where it was a bit more of like a documentary.

I don't know.

How is it?

Do you know what I mean?

Sure.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

How is Jen's vagina broken?

She got reconstructed.

Yeah.

I think she just got like after having um children she decided to get reconstructive surgery and it was like her pelvic wall no she said actually it looked very good i think just like the recovery maybe was like this is a recent surgery surgery yeah i don't know her timeline of it um

this is actually really interesting to me like what happens that you need reconstructive surgery because i know i know i'm going to dive more into that pun intended she cut i just

i'm curious i'm actually curious yeah cut something off like salabia i guess maybe it just like gravity and aging and children.

But she always uses it as like a punchline or a joke where she's like, oh, my gym is broken.

But I am like, I don't know.

I think when you get

things like that redone, that I'm like, she was saying sex where it was like only just the tip because it was so painful.

So I'm like, it's like almost like having a brand new vagina.

You kind of, you gotta, you gotta.

Oh, it was painful before.

Yeah.

No, no, no.

Like, right.

You gotta repop the chair.

Exactly.

She got the surgery redone.

So it's like.

She zipped it up.

It's so tighter.

You got to open it back up again.

And it it takes a few times you know and they say you can't regain your virginity i mean

between jen's vagina and slate's broken penis what is going on in orange county nothing good nothing good what do i love is blonde well joe and madison finally broke up yeah ladies if you're if you watch that breakup this is take notes um know when they hate you and i don't mean like they hate you but like that was tough

have a hug and he's like yeah yeah when you know i mean that that man wanted out.

And that's fine.

It wasn't for him.

He was emotionally panicking the whole time.

I guess we're like, it was more like, don't lose yourself over, like Madison just falling on the floor.

It was the constant asking to like where it's like, why is it?

What is it?

I'm like, clear that he doesn't want to hurt your feelings.

So like, let's just not ask for an answer that we don't need to hear.

And sure, Joe kind of demonstrated some behaviors that were a little eye-rolly at time.

And maybe he's not your guy.

But like, I think it's okay to freak out over the science experiment.

Him immediately being cutting to his ITM and he'll be like, I feel relieved.

Yeah,

yeah, late, a weight lifted off my shoulders for sure.

Yeah, she's just in there, like, on the floor, sobbing, crying.

There's just the editors playing Manchild when he ran off.

Yes, no, that was amazing.

I saw people being like Netflix spending all of their money to play Manchild for 10 seconds.

Yeah.

And it was worth Chef's kit.

It really was.

So good.

I do want to, it sucks because I do kind of want to like hate on Joe.

But I can't, I can't because I would, if I was on Love is Blind,

I would probably be Joe.

Not in the way that he was like kind of phobic, but in the way that he was just like,

I'm not getting married.

No, I think I'd be this one, but I'm like, I just don't know why that was so hard for people to like grasp their head around.

Because Annie, too, where Annie was just like, just make it work with me, and then like we'll see.

And it's marriage, right?

Yeah.

That comes out.

This isn't an easy thing to get out of.

No, it's not something to argue about while you're drunk and eating Taco Bell.

No, I do think I've always said this, this show's most toxic fan base are catfishers.

Wait, what, in what sense?

Catfishers.

People who catfish other people.

This whole premise is about can you fall in love with someone you don't know what they look like?

And the people who are notoriously online, some of those people are people who catfish other people into believing they're someone they're not.

Yes.

And if you are someone who catfishes people online, you fucking love this show and you ride for the people who like, maybe are like overselling their looks.

And like when someone like Joe is like, hey, listen, not my type, you will crucify this person to like no other.

And, you know, just

I think that's where

something to think about.

Yeah, not that I think that Casey was, did a good job in how she broke up, but I'm like, I almost think it's like.

When she did break up with Patrick, I'm like, it was immediate.

She was like, I know I can't get there.

She could have done it better for sure.

But then for Joe, I feel like he probably felt the same way, but he drug it on.

And it's almost like more painful and more damaging to the person that you're with.

If you just like let that drag on and you're just like, I mean, have you ever been with somebody that you're like trying to be like, I'm trying to get there?

Like, but like physically, even if it's not that they're not attractive, it's just that you're like, I'm not feeling this.

And it's really like.

shitty.

It's really shitty.

You're still playing the pros.

Yeah.

And you just feel really bad and you don't want to.

Yeah.

I hated hearing Madison be like, so you, we're never going to cuddle again.

Like we're never going to get like, she's she's like, think about all the good times.

Like, we'll never have those again.

And you're okay with that.

He's like,

he's like, I cannot fucking.

I just, he's like, I gotta get out of this apartment.

But I will say to her point or to her credit, where I'm like, he knew, he knew from the second he saw her.

He knew from the second he was like, but also it, like, it was so obvious to us, clearly watching it.

I wonder how.

obvious it was to her or if like everything he was saying and she was confusing you know like if it was just the complete opposite for her to be living in it i do think the conversation between Sparkle Megan and Jordan was very common.

I think it's something that like Nick and I have even, when we first started dating, like have, you know, had an issue with of like the like, okay, are we, you know, I feel like I'm not really getting much out of this conversation.

It feels like I'm pulling teeth to like get you to have a conversation with me.

Every guy on some level wants to just stare at a wall

in silence.

Until you break them.

You know?

It's like, I don't, The last thing most men want to do is talk about their day.

Oh, no, literally.

Connor used to always be like, I have a simple day.

Couldn't be me.

Now I'm like, now you're a bougie man that won't shut the fuck up.

Wait, I have to relive this whole thing?

Like, I, what?

I'm like, feeting at the mouth to be like, when can I talk about my day?

When are you going to ask me about my day?

Go and ask me.

That's like, when you're like, so, are you going on any trips anytime soon?

I'm just like, no.

And you're like,

I am.

Thank you.

Oh my God.

Let me tell you where I'm going.

Literally.

Yeah.

It's like, you know, we just fell in love

in love because you make me laugh.

And it's just like, well, I'm not a fucking comedian all fucking day.

It's just like, I'm not here to tell jokes.

Yeah.

He's like, and this isn't the pods, baby.

This is real life.

I will say that kind of hurt me when he said this isn't the pods, though.

I was like,

I was like, oh.

But then he did make her laugh right after.

And I was like, okay, there's hope.

He did make a little joke after.

They do seem like the most

the couple that I'm like, yeah,

did you see he got like a neutral bullet brand deal?

No, cute for the chicken.

And crystal light.

And crystal light made like a

crystalite mixture old thing.

No, I wonder if he's getting any of that.

Did y'all see Joe's?

Apparently, Joe is currently in a relationship.

Spoiler.

Oh, yes.

Literally, as soon as that breakup episode aired, they were like, she's like, and release that.

We've been together.

We've been together.

We're doing it together.

She somehow has already had time to do a podcast.

I don't really.

I gotta say, Joe.

Not a good sign for you.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I don't love that your new girlfriend's out there like

riding her coattails,

talking some shit.

She is.

She's talking shit about

Casey being like, we, she told me, which this is always what I love about people when they retell stories.

And they're like, yeah.

And she just kept telling me, like, you're so beautiful.

You're so beautiful.

You're so funny.

You're so beautiful.

And you're so silly and funny and beautiful.

And she just kept telling me how stunning I was.

And then the second I left, she was in Joe's lap.

And it's like,

well,

okay,

let's unpack all of that.

Yeah, so you fell for it.

Yeah.

So would I.

But I am, no, literally.

I am confused as to why she is doing press.

That is definitely a red flag for sure.

I wonder how, what Casey's recollection was.

She DM'd probably as many podcasts as that she thought might have her on and pitched herself.

Have you guys checked your DMs?

We don't check.

Who checked the DMs?

I mean, I did see Joe up in the

email.

I was

trying to get on.

Joe was also in our DMs.

The KB and Edmund conversation was very interesting.

She was like, you're a different person when the cameras are down than when they are.

The way I was rooting for them to break up and when they didn't,

I honestly,

they shouldn't be together.

I love them both.

I think they're well-intentioned people who are willing to try to figure this out.

And I don't think they're perfect for each other, but I think they're both good people.

100%.

We've talked about it already.

I think obviously some shit didn't work through.

They're just not each other's person.

If you ever wondered what Nick looked like roller skating, just watch that one.

That is it.

I don't jump.

Do you want to now after watching this?

No.

You didn't get the itch?

Well, watching I've been on rollerblades is like, yeah, maybe I shouldn't.

You felt connected.

Oh, maybe you shouldn't.

I felt a bit, I bet, I felt some shame.

Oh, okay, okay.

It brought you back, tumbled you a little.

Listen, I can't wait till my daughter's old enough to go roller skating.

And so we'll be sick.

We'll be flying.

Well, Allison Williams is here.

So should we get to Allison?

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Allison, welcome to the show.

Oh my God, this is surreal.

I really feel like I won some kind of a contest and I get to be on the contact.

Yes, of course.

You won like a radio show contest.

It really called it.

A fan event.

This is like a fan event.

I really feel like this is surreal.

I'm unworthy.

I'm so grateful to be here.

Susie, this is a curveball I did not know about.

The fact that you're on the couch with me, I'll eventually be able to maintain eye contact with you for longer than like a second.

I'm so flattered.

You don't even understand.

No, you look

incredible.

Thank you so much.

So you've been a true Blue Bashra fan for a long time.

Blue Blue.

Wow.

True Blue Blue.

How far back do you go?

I think the first season, I watched like at the very beginning, and then I took a little break during college.

It was like a culture, you know, vacuum college-wise, a little bit.

And then I started again.

I started in hard with Brad Womack.

Oh, hard.

He was the only two-time bachelor.

Yes, the second time.

He was a two-time bachelor.

The second time he came on, I watched that whole season.

And it was my two chances to do The Bachelor.

I know.

Really good, good looking guy.

He made them both.

Yeah, the first time he was like, he said no to everyone.

He was like, nah, I'm good.

And it was hated for it.

Yep.

And then I was like, I can do better, guys.

This is the season that produced Emily Maynard.

Yeah.

So I wrote, I was fresh out of college.

I was in like a viewing group and I did something that's like so confusing looking back in terms of like social, I don't know, trying to fit in.

Everyone was a little older than me, and we would get together every week and watch The Bachelor.

I wrote an essay to the email list about like coordinating the weekly viewing thing, comparing Brad Wilmack to Hamlet.

And everyone was like, it like landed with a thud in the email, and I don't think anyone responded.

People were like, You're doing so much, this English major, you have to leave it behind, it doesn't belong here.

I stand by it.

He was very, um, yeah, he was very Prince of Denmark-y.

And are you still, you're still currently watching?

I am behind.

I watched Paradise.

If we can even, like, call it.

It was so different.

Yeah.

What are your thoughts about it?

Like, that you're not going to be able to do it.

In a way,

it needs like, it needed a revamp.

Yeah.

I was happy to see like aspirational qualities to it.

Like, it was starting to get so

mean to the people who went that I was like, why would you go?

Yeah.

And they still did wrong by you, in my opinion.

I agree.

Yeah, you deserve like a much.

And I'm assuming they assumed you would have had a much longer storyline.

But they didn't prioritize their stars, which was one of my biggest.

It's really weird.

They don't take care of their, the people who pull the most attention to the show.

But the fact that it was in a nice hotel, it was like everyone had air conditioning.

People looked rested.

People were napping whenever they felt like it.

Really?

I was like, this seems like it's less.

prone to create a breakdown.

And I thought it was pretty successful.

And then when it became survivor big brother I was like interesting I guess it's what you have to do to compete with the other shows I guess I guess I mean it because it hasn't been working I feel like lately and I my biggest frustration is like I think that I just don't think they've they haven't prioritized their stars or even made it an attempt like Joey brought it back.

We were all like, here we go.

Like

we're back.

You know, we loved it.

We told Kelsey to say it again after she was like, I love you.

And he was like, say it again.

Here he is.

I got wet.

That's so true.

That's so interesting.

And they took all that momentum and then just.

Just like, yeah.

And I don't know why they do that.

They've never been good at prioritizing their stars.

Well, now they're pulling a star from a different universe.

I was going to ask.

What do you think of Taylor Smith?

So this is actually, I think, what.

the franchise needs to get eyeballs back on it.

The question will be what they do with that attention because I think she's going to be incredible.

She knows what she's doing.

She gets the assignment.

She's a veteran.

Like, you know, she's going to run an insane show.

And it'll break her, even her, because you guys are built with spines of steel to survive these shows.

Like, seriously, it's really hard.

It's like, it's the reason why everyone goes on to the other competition shows and just does so well.

You guys are really like gorgeous.

It's an emotional.

Yes.

It's really intense.

It's not a coincidence that like special forces,

Hannah Brown, and Tyler are three of the first five people who finish because it's about not quitting.

It's not really about anything else.

Totally.

It's It's just like being kind of psychotic.

And also being like really good, like game theory, emotional gameplay mechanics and being able to like write your own story in real time and produce yourselves because I think there's less like one-to-one kind of attention.

So you're like, this is up to me.

There's a bigger pool.

Anyway, digression.

I think Taylor will be helpful to like launching it.

And then I just hope that there's a star like from that from that season that she doesn't pick that can then carry the momentum forward.

But they have to take care of that person.

And they say they have to.

And don't make fun of them after the final rows.

Lionize them, make them seem

hot and interesting and desirable.

They have to cast at least three men that they think could be our next leader.

That have not done anything illegal.

It'll take two seconds for Reddit to unearth.

They need to release a list of 50 potential contestants months before they start shooting and let the internet do the background check.

If I were a bachelor producer, my big like thing to change would be like announce a cast of like 50 to 60.

Exactly.

And do it like months before and let something.

There'd be like four men left.

So true.

Yeah.

Every girl would be like,

a smaller Community has been ready.

All the ex-girlfriends would come out of the work and be like, listen to how he broke up with me.

That would happen.

You would get a bunch of jelly X's.

That's fine.

That's okay.

Like you can, we allow for people to have done breakups badly.

Who hasn't done that?

But you start with 60, you weed it down to like 20, even 15.

Yeah.

And then like, it's only like those 15 make it.

And then I want to see, I want to see the lead get like almost Love Island style.

Yeah.

But instead of like, you got to text, like they all get like a flip phone that they can text each other.

You know how like when I would sneak out and, you know, like go to her apartment or whatever and that's all kind of like they could like text the lead when they're on a date and the lead could decide to respond not respond we and then the producers would have access to all those conversations but like that would be a way to like like you get some bubbles of like that would be kind of great I feel like it would take so long though to get the text messages through because they everyone's forgotten how to click three times for K and two times for oh yeah T9 word

I used to be able to do that without looking I know.

I mean, emanating from my bedroom in high school, it's just like loud.

Yeah, I mean, there does need to be some element of like the thing Love Island does so well is it just like lets people just hang.

And it's not all ready for television.

And yeah, they're producing six episodes a week, but or five a week, but still like I, what I loved about Paradise always, and the reason I think it has a higher success rate for couples than the regular show, right?

I think.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You get to just hang out together.

And so there's a problem with that formula, which is that as the couples get stronger, they get more boring.

And then they stop making good television.

And so adding the game mechanic, I guess, made sense.

But maybe if you're just, I don't know, people are such experts these days.

They know what they're doing.

Just cast the right people.

Yeah.

I think it just comes down to casting.

Yeah.

100%.

Yeah.

Regretting you.

Yeah.

Comes out on Friday.

I was like, what is that?

It's not in the each universe.

I've never heard of it.

You in the movie are married to the Scott Eastwood.

I am.

In the movie, Married to Scott Eastwood.

In the movie Married to Scott Eastwood.

How was that just for curious purposes?

For general curiosity

between the two of us.

He's like, he's iconic.

He's Scott Eastwood.

He delivers on the Scott Eastwood promise.

He's like what you want him to be.

Yes.

hanging out, suntanning, and then

a face cam, you know, just like chilling.

He's like, knows all the

Teamsters somehow already from other jobs.

He smells like Eastwood.

I have now been asked like six times what he smells like, and I'm such a failure because I do not remember his odor.

I will make note of it tonight when I see him with the programme.

I think maybe one of the best compliments a man could get is the curiosity about your smell.

Other men are the only people who've asked me.

It's like a competitive pheromone question.

That's so interesting.

Even a bigger flex.

You have men feeling

men feeling self-conscious about their own smells.

They're like, was it like musk or like a sat like a lever

um

but yeah so he when we wrapped him he was gone

some somehow it came up that he's the guy in the wildest dreams taylor swift video and mckenna and mason who had loved him for in different ways from that video a long time ago hadn't made the connection they just filmed a movie with the hot guy from the wildest dreams video and we have a picture of the look on their faces when they figured it out and they were just like, Oh my god, that was that was him.

And he just played her dad.

We were very glad she didn't know while we were doing it because it's probably a good thing she was.

You're watching the movie.

He's like, Why is it giving

me

lips?

I don't know.

That's weird.

And Mason is like, You're the most beautiful man I've ever seen.

He's always felt that way.

And then when he met him, he was very, very flustered.

It was so sweet.

It was great.

He's a dad.

He's chill.

Looks very heavy and entertaining.

And for me, like a game of guess who, because it was like, wait, did he, did they cheat on each other?

Is that the person that dad?

What's going on?

So many like cliffhangers.

It's really, it is emotional.

There's ugly crying involved for sure, but there's also like laughing out loud.

It's hard to describe this genre.

The way I've been describing it is like it's a sleepover movie that you want to see in a theater.

It feels nostalgic.

Thank you.

Like a movie you would watch back in the day.

I feel like walking into Blockbuster throwback.

Sorry, half your audience just was like, what is that?

See all these movies of like romance and then different hyphens and I feel like we don't have as many of those anymore and this feels like a movie from this genre and I personally am constantly like scrolling through the streamers looking for movies like this so do you uh when you play like the teenage mom well not a mom of a teenager who was a teenage mom actually do you is it fun to like

role play like what like kind of

envision like what you would be like that scene where you drive up and it's like there's a door apart where that kind of

cute really That's a real scene from her life that she put in the book.

That's hilarious.

Totally.

I mean, our guy is going to be four in November, so we're far from that.

Although they do say that developmentally toddlerhood and teenagerhood are similar stages of pushing boundaries to find them.

They're just like when they're tiny, it feels it hits different.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Nellie and I are constantly like kind of fantasizing about like what it's going to be like when River gets older.

And what are the vibes you're getting?

I mean, she's, if she's saying mom, she's already saying mom 20.

We went to a new park yesterday with our friends, and they have this like, it's like in a, it's like a big kid park where the park by heart is more like

smaller.

And it has this like rope kind of netted.

Like climbing.

Oh, I can picture it exactly.

Right.

Like just an instant heart attack for me instantly.

And she

scaled the whole thing.

First started going.

And then obviously it gets really high.

I'm like, right, you know, right there, right below her and kind of like not, and I, and she's yelling at me.

No, no, yeah, yeah.

No, yeah,

and honestly, she's rejecting your whole thing.

Yes, my whole

spotting

support.

And what's shocking is that like she actually did it.

Like incredible.

No, obviously we, we were, I was there.

Yeah.

But she would have, like, she's definitely like a.

She must have felt so proud.

Oh, she, yeah.

She was like, she's like, you're going to deprive me of this victory if you're involved.

She's a doer.

She's real.

Yeah, she's definitely a go-getter.

She's she's unafraid.

She's also like such a lover girl.

Like she goes up to anyone and hugs them, tries to kiss.

It's sometimes a little, I'm like, you can't.

Yes.

You know how they were like, it's your body.

I know.

Well, by the way, so I teach that to our son.

Obviously, I'm like, this is your body or whatever.

And we're always talking about consent in every situation.

And then when I say things to to him like, I think you are just tired.

He's like, how do you know that, mama?

You're not in my body.

This is my body.

I'm the boss of my body.

And I'm like, my God.

God damn, this check is so early.

Yeah.

He is educated.

I know.

He's like, I love it.

I love it.

But anyway, yeah, it was crazy to imagine having a teenager.

Like,

and let alone my character became a mom as a teenager.

And I know a few people who had kids that young.

I'm just completely in awe of them.

I was so someone else's kid still for a long time when I was that age.

Like I just was not ready to have a kid.

Did you pick their brain at all about like totally?

Totally.

But also the other thing is observing it because it's this funny hybrid.

It's a level of intimacy that's fascinating because it's like they kind of grew up in parallel.

So they're like sisters, but also there's a boundary of mother-daughter.

And all the people I know who had kids young did a better job of it than Morgan has.

I think she, in the beginning of the movie, it seems like everything's good, but actually like, I have notes.

By the end of the movie, they may or may not find each other better, but their closeness is kind of superficial.

She's very into it.

She would like to control her daughter into being safe rather than letting her go, which you did.

And then that climbing thing, which is what you have to do.

That's all that parenthood is.

It's like letting go and then being there just in case, you know.

I'm always trying to like not put my own anxiety onto her.

It's so hard.

Every time I'm like, be careful, don't do that.

I'm like, no, don't say it.

She can do it.

My husband literally, like, when I don't, maybe he was like a year old, Alexander very gently in a way that I could feel that he had been thinking about how to word this for like months.

He was like, have you ever noticed how often you say be careful?

And I was like, no.

No.

And he was like, you're kind of telling him that the world is scary in a way that he doesn't feel.

And so then I started paying attention to it.

And I was like, oh my God, it's constant.

It's like

a tick almost.

It is.

It's like when she does anything.

I know.

And now I step in to put her foot into her pajama pants.

I'm like, okay, and be careful.

And then I'm like, where what's going to happen?

no come on i know leave her alone i know i am allowed to say it when he runs downhill though there's nothing yes

yeah running downhill ghost lugs your breath away i know

it's it's fascinating though there have been a couple moments where like river got hurt yeah and any like stitches yet well it's like now there's a couple where it was just it was very traumatizing for natalie there was

There was one situation where there's a lot of blood.

She was totally fine.

Like her lip basically got cut.

So much is crazy.

And in the few moments where that's happened, like it's incredible how like calm River gets.

So she'd be crying, but she'll like, you can tell that she notices Natalie scared.

It comforts me.

You know what happened to me?

We're very similar.

Arlo stopped wanting to see me when he got hurt.

He didn't want my, he didn't want me looking at him.

So there must have been something in my eyes that was making him feel like, I'm already hurt.

I can't take care of you.

So I started saying to him, like, I don't like when you get hurt, but that's not your job to take care of.

I'm going to take care of myself.

And now I need to take care of you first.

And we got through it.

And now he likes a hug, but sometimes he's very stoic about getting hurt.

And then I'll say, can I give you a hug for no reason?

And he'll be like, yeah.

No mic.

For no reason.

He's crying.

He's like that little cut.

And I'm like, random question.

Have nothing to do with the fact that you're crying.

Can I give you a hug?

That's hilarious.

It has nothing to do with you or your cut.

Or your feelings.

He doesn't like the feeling of crying.

He doesn't like the sensation of tears coming out of his eyes.

He finds it deeply uncomfortable.

And I was like, I wonder if I did too.

And now I'm just used to it.

Like, right.

Is it a fundamentally uncomfortable experience?

Also, it sounds like you've been able to really instill it communication.

So maybe he's just really able to communicate and be aware, where maybe most kids are like experiencing the sensation and they can't communicate it.

He is a,

yes, he's a big time communicator.

Very in tune, it sounds like.

Yes, he's a big communicator.

We're very, I'm so into it.

Before he goes to bed as a stalling mechanism, but also just because I love it.

I always ask him if there's anything on his mind left from the day, like any residual.

I don't know.

Like when I see him, when I walk away on the nanette and I see him just blinking up at the ceiling, I'm like, what are you thinking about?

And like lately, not for any particular reason.

I can't even remember why it came up, but he's become obsessed with like the birthing process.

Oh.

And it's been like, he's almost four.

It's been a long time.

I'm not pregnant again.

I haven't had another kid, but he's very into knowing about like the umbilical cord and the placenta and contractions and how does a doctor decide about a C-section or a vaginal birth and and he asked the most incredibly profound questions about like how can the doctor communicate with the baby about whether or not it's gonna hurt and how can the baby tell the doctor if it's feeling uncomfortable while it's being born and I was like oh my gosh I would talk to you

so when he does that because like I don't know That's our first kid, too.

Are you like, you're a genius?

Obviously.

Because

River will say or do something.

And I don't know if she's a genius or just like

she's developing.

Here's the thing.

You you know she's just normal you'll never know

we will never know

i will never know the objective level of genius he is i will only know the his mom level of genius he is which is like the most nasty well from a bystander that seems i was gonna say happen on video it's incredibly sweet he's like impressive i mean i film him and another thing just record her talking constantly like during a diaper change i would just sit the phone with the voice memo app going like next to the because they're so chatty when you're changing a diaper or something she's girl she's probably like potty potty turned already.

She's not, but she's almost.

I mean, it took us a minute.

I'm just going to say.

This morning, this morning, she's in her crib and we're asleep at 6 a.m.

and she's going, mama, mama, which she doesn't really ever call for me in the morning.

Nick always gets her in the morning.

And I sleep for an extra 10 minutes before she realizes I'm not in the room.

And she's going, mama, mama, mama.

So I'm like, what?

She must need me.

Like, what the heck?

So get out to mom.

Yeah.

And I open the door and I'm like, are you okay?

And she's like, poo-poo, yuck.

And I'm like,

Okay, got it, got it.

So now I've like taught her the difference, and now she knows.

And so now she's like telling me.

And she's like, Mama, I peep you, dude.

I peeped, I peeped,

I peeped.

So, yes, so we're close to body training, but and now that she's so verbal, keep a note stock of all the words and the sound effects and the because they go through so fast.

Like, I don't remember when Manana became banana, but at least I know that it was at one point manana.

Yeah, because you, it's just, it is fast, although I do feel like we're really soaking it up, which is such a privilege.

I thank God for phones and because I am, I feel like we're able to just capture so much.

So what will we do with the approximately 100,000 hours of footage I have of our I'm not sure?

Someone's going to create something.

I wish to go through it.

Like AI will be able to cipher through it, I think.

I'm sure.

It's going to need to be and make it like a home video.

Because there is something so special about like

a home video.

Although they were so unique that that, like,

I will never know what I actually was like because when the camera was out, I was always feeling a little hamp.

Like, it's like Trojan charges, P.B.

Allison.

There's no way to know.

I know that when I was growing up, we had like the camcorder.

Yeah.

And I'm sure they're somewhere.

I don't know where, but they're not very accessible.

I can't believe ABC didn't make you unearth them at some point.

Maybe they asked.

Maybe they asked.

What if I just had quoted a home video?

Like,

your first word was.

remember you fell playing soccer when you were seven if you don't remember that

are you watching the golden bachelor um i'm behind on the golden bachelor this we gave up on it you did we did bailed

shots i'm five tuning in technically how is it it's like it's okay i'm having a hard time staying

staying tuned in.

I didn't like his vibe.

Like I was, I was like, I don't know if I'm going to root for you, but I'm saving it.

He was like, I'm into the 40-year-olds.

Yeah.

I hated that.

Which is like, I was like, have you asked them if they're into you, sir?

Yeah.

We're like,

we got a show coming out next year called Age of Attraction.

I have heard about this show.

That's the show for him because, like, no shame in your preferences.

But

you're not giving these ladies a shot.

Right.

Also, like, know your show, know your audience.

I was like, this is just a sign of a level of like, he's not thinking about us, the fans, when he said these things.

And that is indicative of a certain kind of season that it's going to be.

Well, Susie recently went to a like brunch with all the golden women.

I have to share a clip with you guys, if that's okay.

Oh, and are you what?

Of course.

It's a little inappropriate.

So I hope you're ready.

Love it.

I don't know if you're familiar with my work,

but

it just says someone's motorboated my butt on television.

So

you're going to love this, right?

You're going to love it.

So I was going around asking everybody, where's the craziest place you've had sex?

And I got some really exciting answers.

Some was like the 40-line

40-yard dash line, whatever.

40 yard line.

40-yard, yes, that of football.

I thought 40.

I don't know.

I guess it was just like.

Not quite.

Yeah, but they did it there.

A bathroom.

One of the Goldens had joined the Mile High Club in an airplane.

And then we got like a really fun answer.

I want to share with you guys.

I hope that's Catholic Peggy.

Who's that?

Who is it?

Of course it is.

What's the craziest place you've had sex?

In the butt.

Oh.

And she opted in.

You said, I'm in where?

Yeah.

Like, I'm not trying to get that personal with you.

I'm so sorry.

I didn't mean to like shout out that head.

She's like the ear.

Yeah.

Answer the question you wanted to be asked.

Yes.

You're asked.

That's stupid.

Interview 101.

In the butt.

Yes.

So funny.

She's the firefighter.

She has been like comedic relief this season.

She definitely keeps it interesting.

So.

Do they have chemistry?

Does she stand a chance or she's just sticking around?

No.

She's funny.

No.

You know what?

But that might be why they have chemistry.

Like

for the show.

Oh, she's good.

Yeah.

You know, I think that he really digs her.

And that's, that's been the vibe I got.

But how old is she?

You can never tell.

I don't.

You know what?

That's a good question.

I don't know.

She looks bad, though.

In the butt.

In the butt.

In the butt.

Immediately.

Yeah.

So iconic.

What else are you watching these days?

Are you watching Salt Lake City?

Is that

accurate?

I just did watch What Happens Live with Meredith, who

audible gasps.

Yeah.

Not to brag, we text.

Like,

I can retire, I think.

I'm so upset about water.

As my voice is coming back, I actually occasionally sound like Angie Kay to me, to myself.

A little bit.

English wise.

You know what?

Honestly, yeah, I hear you.

Iconic.

By the way, also for the record.

Okay, so.

Sorry, I got like flustered because you brought up Salt Lake.

You invoked the city, Salt Lake City, and I lost control of myself.

I started watching this show because I filmed a movie in Salt Lake earlier this year.

Or what month is it?

Yes, earlier this year.

And so I was like, just culturally speaking, I should do my research about where I'm going to be.

Right.

I like destroyed Secret Lives of Mormon Wives.

Then I was like, what, what next?

And I watched like Salt Lake City from season one, Real Housewives.

And I've known Andy Cohen for a really long time, like since I was like 22, so 15 years, and maybe younger than that.

And I have never watched a Bravo show of his.

Really?

Not that whole time.

We've been on vacations together.

I've had this man captive on a boat with me for like days at a time, and I could have been peppering him questions.

The irony that I'm only now discovering, like, he's got so many years.

I was like, Andy, you're getting more famous to me by the day.

Like, I'm gonna stop being able to talk to you about these shows.

So, anyway, I went through Salt Lake and I was like, this is some of the best television of all time, Breaking Bad, Real House, Salt Lake City,

Mad Mash,

The Wire.

I was was like blown away.

So then I did, then I did a little survivor, which I never watched, but I did like a Survivor binge, a couple selected seasons, which I got really into.

I also wanted to know like the Parvity origin.

She's, she fascinates me.

And Boston Rob.

And then I went to, I was reading a bunch of stuff about this fellow named Jax.

And I was like, who is this Jax Taylor that everyone keeps writing about?

Wow.

And I was like, oh, they keep mentioning a show called The Valley.

Let me watch The Valley.

So I watched The Valley.

And then I was like, What?

This is a person in culture that has been allowed to exist in culture.

And I was like, I need to know how he came to be and how long have we known that he is like this and we let him be here.

So I started Vanderpump episode one, season one, killed the whole thing, redid The Valley with all my context.

And I was like, oh my God, Dodie.

So I like knew everything.

And then Sheena shows up, Sheena, la la.

I know you now.

You're my friends.

Wow.

And then now, per Andy's suggestion, because when I finished Vanderpump, I was like, what do I do?

And he was like, New York, season one.

Go.

Yeah.

They are in Morocco in season four.

Scary Island just happened.

You're in the thick of it.

Yeah.

Ramona is behaving weirdly, but that will be true for every season.

It's fascinating, like watching Vanderpump from the beginning and having remembered like the headlines of Scandival, but not having been a watcher of the show.

I was like, every time he and Raquel, sorry, Rachel, were in the same space, I was like.

The fact that the headlines didn't even get you to watch.

Isn't that weird?

That is weird.

I was like, I must educate myself on what happened because it's geopolitically important

for a moment.

It was.

It really was.

And then when Ariana started hosting Love Island, which I've watched from the first season in the UK, I was like, who was, who is this fabulous, beautiful person?

Where did she come from?

And even that didn't get me to watch it.

But

I'm busy, you know, it's like all these love islands, all these treaters, all these

tests.

Like, I watch what's playing while I do everything in my life that doesn't require my full brain.

I'm so glad that you had time to come here.

Honestly, it's a brief break from New York.

I will go right back to watching the show.

If traders, like, elevated to the point where it was casting actors and musicians and not just your reality TV folk, would you ever be tempted to do it?

First of all, I hope they never do that because we will ruin it really fast.

You think?

Yes.

Because you're

too publicisty.

I say that with love for my own kind, but like

you guys are doing a craft that is fundamentally different and really hard.

And to be a version of yourself that is

like has a protective persona layer to it, but is also authentically you for so many hours on television is so much harder than anyone can possibly know.

We're not ready.

We can't, we're not capable of it.

I'm serious.

It wouldn't be good television.

Um, we would just be, we wouldn't take any risks.

We don't have an internal sense of like how to create storylines.

I mean, other than the people in pop culture who have been adjacent to reality TV, like think about who makes headlines.

Like, I spend my, I do everything I can to avoid making a headline.

Like, I'm really allergic to it.

If I had to like generate my own storyline, I would just be at a loss.

It would go against all my instincts.

So.

I don't think it's a good idea.

I want Mary Cosby in the turret so badly.

I can't.

She already dresses like she's filming the trainers.

She dressed.

Her clothing is so Scotland Scotland-coated.

So true.

She needs to be up there.

I need to see, she would never wear the hood, but it's fine.

I need her, yeah, around the round table, like arguing with people about why she's not a traitor.

I want to know how she feels about Peacock's.

Like, I was hoping, by the way, that episode of Salt Lake was so traders-y.

I was like, this feels like a crossover already.

It's making me easier for me to imagine Mary there.

Would you do it?

Yeah, I want to do it.

I've been asked every season, cutting because of schedule.

Last season, I said yes temporarily.

Then we got the Age of Attraction opportunity.

Right.

And it was, it overlapped.

Yeah.

Someday.

It is tough.

I mean, I said yes, but then it was like, I don't, I'm not that interested in being away from River for like three weeks.

It does feel long.

Everyone falls apart by the end for that reason.

You know, the most I've been without her is like three days.

Could you guys not go and stay in the hotel?

Because they don't stay in that house.

They stay in a hotel, right?

Could you go?

I don't know.

Maybe, but like, you know, they didn't ask the first season.

Okay.

The second season, they asked.

And I said, no, this is before Natalie was like part of the show.

And I was like, I'm, we're, I can't, too.

Like, I can't leave the show.

You know, we're like a daily show.

And then I said yes when I did because I was like, oh, my wife's got this.

You know, like, she, I can't.

Yeah, everyone in all the comments are like, no.

So I'm like, I could peace out for a couple of weeks.

So like,

yeah, it's feasible.

So, but if she came with, you know,

then I couldn't.

That changes it.

It'd be tough.

So

someday I'll be able to do that.

I'd have to be on the show to do that.

Would you be on the show?

There was a couple in one of the seasons in maybe New Zealand, I think.

They did it together?

Yeah.

I wouldn't tell anyone, though.

It was very stupid strategically.

Yeah, that doesn't make any sense.

Like Alarsa and Michael.

My dream for Natalie is to get her on Dancing with the Stars.

Let's put it out there.

That would be iconic.

Do you know anyone?

I don't know if I'm like, do I know anyone?

I know them.

Oh.

yeah it's just it's in your it's in your control would you want to do it as well i think i would yeah i mean i think i would i'd want to do anything anyone offered

like hey i'm one of all your dance please

are you paying anyone's offering out state sponsorship do you do you have a dance background i don't have a dance background no i feel like you'd be good though because you give off that i have a tick tock dance background

honestly i have never and could never and cannot and can't figure out how to do it.

The way you guys dance, like you don't care, but it's perfect is so something I'm just never going to be capable of.

I'm too much of a try-hard.

I'm a try-hard type, but you're also a TikTok genius.

What are you even talking about?

Oh, yeah, she's per transition.

But that kind of like casual dancing where it's still like perfect

is so slowy.

Yeah, you look bored.

Like,

I've never been able to like look bored.

Like, I'm just not bored ever.

I can't muster that level of cool.

I'm really locked in.

Yeah.

It's so impressive.

Even like Whitney from Mormon Wives, like,

I would never assume that she can pull that off because she also cares.

Like she's a headband wearer, but she can do it.

I don't know.

I'm in awe.

I'm so impressed.

Yeah.

Are you watching Dancing the Stars?

Pretty simple.

I've never watched Dancing with the Stars.

Really?

It's really fun to get into.

It is fun.

I mean, the clips, you know.

Watch the clips.

Are you in town, though?

Like, you should go tomorrow when they film.

You should go in person.

Oh, in New York.

She's a busy bee.

It's a marathon.

In person is really fun.

The show, the tape.

The live show.

I'm sure.

They all.

We try to go once a season, possibly, to say hi to old friends, but it's a bit of a marathon.

They seat everyone that's recognizable in one place, I'm guessing.

That's certainly a front row.

Do you have to stay for the full taping, or can you sneak in and out?

No, you have to stay for the full taping.

I mean, I guess if you

left, but when we were there last week,

it was dedication night, and they had Elaine Hendrix, right, dancing with Parent Trap with Lisa

and Dennis Quaid.

And they danced to Everlasting Love.

It was very parent trap coded.

Oh, okay.

And was very stolen.

I was struggling to handle this, but I.

I know.

Okay.

I did not.

I didn't.

Yeah, it was my fault.

I didn't.

I actually have one silly question for you.

My God, I was hoping you would ask me something.

She had a whole game ready for me.

She had a whole game.

She was staring at you longingly across the floor.

You guys were having a really nice conversation.

I didn't want to interrupt.

But who do you think would win in a fight?

Megan or Angie Katzanevas?

My God.

Great question.

I love that you're thinking really hard about really hard.

I'm stuck on their hair right now.

Maybe coming for her heart or her business.

Listen.

Scootman.

Black cards everyone.

Soupman.

Scootman.

Did she say Megan?

Megan wins in any setup because she is the internet and it's not a fair fight.

But Angie is a worthy foe.

I'm just saying.

Yeah.

What about Nick?

Do you think Megan wins?

Nick versus Megan.

Yeah.

Arthur, you're like, Nick versus Isha.

I'll let her have it.

I know.

No offense.

I know she would win that.

Yeah, she would.

Megan just wins in any

like she even V Annabelle.

Like she just she has Chucky.

Yeah, Chucky.

Jack Saylor.

Jack Taylor.

Give her a run, Jack Saylor.

Let's just say Chucky and Jack Saylor don't have some

traits.

Yeah, Megan.

They're never in the same room.

Yeah, Megan's, she's pretty unstoppable.

You guys, I don't want this.

And I had questions for you guys.

Oh, well, I maybe, can I invite myself back?

Whenever you want.

My voice will sound better.

I kind of like it like this.

Should I keep it?

Yeah.

Should I just make sure I yell as much as Angie Kay yells for your stays like this?

They should preface by letting people know you have a bit of a cold rather than it's not even a cold.

I would not do that to you guys because you're already feeling a sexy voice.

No, it's just, I feel like 100% healthy.

I just have this voice during a press tour, which is the coolest thing my body's ever done to me.

It's crazy.

Yeah.

Well, Regretting You is out in theaters on Friday.

Everyone can see it.

Check it out.

I'm so excited.

Thanks for coming.

Thank you for having me, you guys.

Like, you've entertained me for so many hours of my life.

I'm so grateful.

Well, anytime you're on a press tour or when you're not on a press tour,

you're just with me and literally will just like come by.

Come do like

a digital episode with me one day.

Do you ever let the Ask Nick episodes where you give dating advice to people?

Best with them.

Come via special guests.

We had Dylan Efron do it.

I know.

The sleuthiest sleuth.

All right.

Will you promise?

I swear to God.

Okay.

Love it.

Awesome Williams, everybody.

Awesome Williams.

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I loved her.

That was really nice.

It's like when people are like, I love supporting small creators when they're the first comic.

When it's in Allison Williams, I'm always like, why do you listen to our show?

You already have everything figured out and like you're just iconic and you know everything.

I'm iconic.

Yeah.

Truly.

Wow.

That was cool.

That was nice.

That was flattering.

That was fun.

Did Allison Williams know who.

I don't know.

I can't tell.

You?

Yeah.

Yes, she did.

She true.

This is our show.

She literally was.

She wanted you to ask her a question.

She was like, I've been looking at you this whole time.

I was nervous.

Me too.

I got nervous as soon as she was.

I'm like, that's Marnie Michaels.

That's Relay.

Literally.

That was cool.

Well, that will wrap up this episode of Reality Recap.

Thank you to our guest, Allison Williams.

Be sure to check out her movie, which is out on Friday, Regretting You.

I know all you ladies, bring your man that will want to watch it.

It's honestly, I saw it.

It's great.

It's a tearjerker.

Yeah.

Good stuff.

It feels a lot.

Yeah.

Don't forget to tune in tomorrow's Going Deeper.

Brooke Schofield is our guest, and it's definitely an episode you are not going to want to miss, especially if you have been a fan of hers and the canceled podcast.

It is definitely a real true blue going deeper.

That's tomorrow.

Don't forget to check us out on Friday.

And again, don't forget to all you potential daters out there, if you're interested in being matched with potentially the love of your life and having that being filmed, check out our Instagram or our website to fill out our casting call.

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Could Could change your life.

We'll see you tomorrow.

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