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It's morning in New York.

Hey, everybody, I'm Mandy Potenkin.

And I'm Catherine Grody.

And we have a new podcast.

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Freedom!

I'm whispering.

Paul, speak up.

I can't hear you, Paul.

Freedom!

It's fun, try it.

We should all whisper?

Yeah, okay.

Freedom!

Somebody was scream-whispering, which I think is different.

Yeah.

Lauren, you were scream-whispering.

Hey, I was.

Did you even realize it?

Lauren, wake up.

Hello?

Hell!

Hello!

That would be the greatest.

Somebody wakes up and dead sleep.

Hello.

Hello.

Hello.

I'm here.

Yep.

What's popping in the neighborhood?

We're back once again.

Yeah, Lauren Lapkis is over there.

I am.

Paul F.

Tompkins is over here.

And that's what's happening.

And Scott's over there.

He was waiting for me to tell him.

That wasn't happening until Scott was over there.

And then

I rushed over here.

Sit down.

Yeah, yeah.

That's not all.

Well, we're having fun already.

We're the pretzel gang.

We're Jim Freedom boys.

And you're our little piss pigs.

Yo, we love you, piss pigs.

What did happen here?

Our listeners said

we call the freedom piss pigs.

We need a name for the fandom of freedom.

And they decided

amongst themselves.

Yes.

And then brought it to us.

And they were like, yay or nay.

And we say yay.

If it makes you happy.

If it makes you happy,

we'll call you piss pigs

and so the piss pigs were born yeah and they love they love it it's so weird it seems so insulting but they love it so much to be called that yeah yeah yeah anyway so hello to our little piss pigs out there if this is your first episode you are now a newly minted piss pig

you dirty little rat oh lauren we have been waiting for you to finish this email you are composing

who are you sending money to business

your damn business i don't put my phone down.

It's going to be on Veno.

And I didn't finish it.

And I keep my business private on Venmo.

I don't like that I can see other people's faces.

I don't understand why anyone would want you to.

Yeah.

I don't have anyone able to see mine.

And that Venmo is like, put an emoji in there.

Like, take it easy, Venmo.

I prefer not to use it.

And I, as I always say, I love cash, but you know, sometimes you need Venmo.

Love cake.

Cash is king.

Cash is king.

Cash is king.

When everything goes down,

when we're off the grid,

we're going to need money.

We're going to need money.

Cash.

Dollar bills, y'all.

I believe I still have all that cash that we took out of the bank when

the pandemic started.

Like Casey Wilson told us to.

She does send you a panic over and over again.

Yes, exactly.

Listening to her.

Got to stop listening to her.

There has been no time she's been correct.

No offense, Casey, but is it from all the stories I have?

She will not apologize for either of those things.

No.

Well, there's nothing to apologize for getting cash, but you can put it back in the bank if you want.

No.

Yeah, not that.

I like where it is now.

which is right by my door.

You guys need to buy Duraflame logs.

They're going to go out of business.

Get as many as you can.

Yeah.

I did hear the formula shortage is coming up.

Oh, no.

Yeah.

Oh, no.

Something about the tariffs.

Are you, but see, okay, are you stocked?

I know you might have a subscription because I think Kulap mentioned one on the bottom.

Yeah.

And those, those were in business.

Like, Bobby, the subscription service, was in business.

During the, oh, during the shortage, though, that was one that people kept saying was available.

I had to drive around to various Walmarts.

We had a recall, so we had to throw three canisters away.

You should have dumped them into Boston Harbor as a protest.

Yes, that's really disappointing.

And then all the babies who drank out of Boston Harbor suddenly get sick.

Oh, no.

Oh, no.

Not those guys.

No, we had a recall, so

we're going back to the old formula, which I got to say is wreaking havoc on that little tum-tum.

Oh, we want tum tums.

Yes, yes.

Oh, yeah.

Well, I won't even tell you.

Yeah.

I worked with that person recently

on a set, and they walked past me in the scene

and smelled so good.

Well, we could say who it is.

Okay.

No, but I can't connect these two things.

Okay, yeah, yeah.

We must say.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

All right.

Well, that's great.

I'll just tell them, I'll tell them that you smell it.

No, I told them.

Oh, great.

Good.

And they said it was a leave-in conditioner.

And I said, springtime fresh.

Would you tell her that I think she smells good, even though I haven't

seen her?

Because I think it's weird.

Okay.

It is funny, though.

That can, that like a smell can take you out of something.

Like, you don't think about that when you're on a set.

Yeah.

But it's like to find yourself thinking, that smells so nice.

I'm not this character anymore.

I like it.

That smells too good.

I like smells.

Did I tell you that?

I like smells.

That the, you know, the Delta lounges in the airports?

They like.

I've heard of them.

They pump this fragrance out at the entrance.

And it was, it's the perfume of my ex-girlfriend.

But, and I had some of it.

I had, yes.

Isn't that strange?

I have no connection to it.

It's a fun name, though.

No, but it, I hadn't smelled it in

perfume 30 years or whatever.

And I was like, oh my God, that's what she smelled like every single day.

It was, it's very distinct.

I was like, boy, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo.

Did you?

I had to buy an extra seat on the plane for my boner.

Like, put turns out.

Spotted hat over it.

I don't want anyone to see.

I'll turn away from the aisle.

I once smelled,

like, this was a few years ago.

I smelled my first girlfriend's perfume.

It was wild.

Like, it just rockets you back to the past.

Yeah.

It was so wild.

But I remember she used to, like,

when we were like write notes to each other, she used to spray a little perfume on the note.

Oh,

interesting.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's like a real dangerously.

Take out the garbage asshole.

This is high school.

So I would my high school girlfriend be told me to take out the garbage.

She's on your mom's side.

Go double the driveway.

I definitely have perfumes that I've worn.

Like, I'll go through a phase with them, and then I smell it.

I'm like, oh, wow, this is 2018.

Or like, this is like, oh, yeah, this is that time.

I had one horrible person in my life from a very long time.

Lucky.

Oh.

Who wore the Abercrombie scent.

And so when you walk past an Abercrombie, it's very triggering.

Yeah.

Because they pump pump that shit out of there, yeah, yeah, they do.

Smells should be illegal.

I with Abercrombie, I get it.

It's sort of like just thinking, Hey, if you can, if you can stand this, you deserve to be in here.

And if you can't, you're like, Why are they so dark?

Like, why, you know what I mean?

Hollister is the darkest store on the planet.

Hollister is like an version of Abercrombie, basically.

But I remember I went in there once.

I'm sure I've told the story.

I went in there on when I was in Hawaii once, and I had to get some shorts because I didn't have appropriate clothes with me for some reason.

And I like went in there and like I couldn't see myself in the dressing room mirror.

It was so dark.

I could only see my shorts.

It was like they didn't want me to see the whole package.

Like they're fine.

Get them.

You couldn't see your package?

Buy them.

I couldn't see my dick.

Abercrombie, I loved so much when I was in middle school and I was allowed to purchase a few things from there, which were very special to me.

I've never been in one.

Oh, wow.

It was, it was, I would say like 2000.

That was like peak Abercrombie.

Yeah.

Amazing time.

But, oh, there's that documentary about it where they take it down.

I don't really know about that.

I'm sure it's a horrible company.

It's sad when a store is no longer in vogue.

That was so popular.

But now it's like will they ever get it back?

I did buy a couple of things from Abercrombie randomly a few years ago where I was like, let me just see what they've got.

And I kind of had some fun going on the website, but it was a lot cheaper now.

I only shop at Riverside Target.

It's cheaper quality-wise.

Yeah.

Well, and I think even the price was lower, but it was like the whole situation was at least.

You only shop where?

Riverside Target.

What's that, that, honey?

Yeah, I know.

You have all of your

Marvel sweatshirts.

I believe this one right now I'm wearing.

Yeah, that's a nice one.

You wouldn't

have to.

Do you have all your Marvel shirts hanging in a closet like in a lot of all my I wore one once?

Yeah, but Hollywood.

You were the one that made it seem like you bought a ton of Marvel sweatshirts.

No, I just bought a bunch of clothes.

I bought that one.

He did.

I know.

He did.

I know.

He definitely let us believe that.

He let us believe that.

Is that shirt a raglan sleeve or a full long sleeve tee?

What?

It's a full long sleeve tee.

Full long Yeah, but I push it up like I'm in Little League.

I like it.

Classic Little League game.

I like that cut

shirt.

I do too.

I like the baseball tee.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

I think that's nice.

It is.

It's a flattering cut.

Should we play sports this year?

No.

Why?

Why?

What do you mean?

We should start a team.

Are you interested in pickleball?

No.

Not anymore.

Not since you broke his business.

What if we started a bowling league?

The three of us.

The three of us.

A league.

Yeah, you can join leagues and then compete.

You said, what if we started one?

I don't think bowling for me is that fun, but is there something more fun that we could do?

Polo?

Yeah.

Oh, I love Star Polo.

No, landspool.

Horse polo.

Horse polo.

Horse polo.

Horse polo.

Oh, I have horse polo.

I thought they had shots for that now.

Do you have New Year's resolutions?

Are you doing that?

Because this is our first episode after the new year.

Are you thinking about this?

Definitely.

I have to get back into exercising.

I put all the weight back on that I lost.

And I've realized I have to accept that I'm like an up and down guy.

I was thinking of that the other, yeah, I don't know.

That's so hard because I like, yeah, it's like, I, because you don't want to, I was talking about this with Ryan Rosenberg.

Um, that

Josenberg.

That um,

it's you get to a point where you feel uh mentally healthy.

You're saying, you know what?

I'm not going to beat myself up about this, whatever.

But then you get past that point, you're like, I should have beat myself up a little bit.

But it is, it's that, the idea of like loving yourself at any size or whatever.

Well, first of all, the idea just hated yourself equally across.

Now we're talking welcome to my world.

It's a little easier to attain.

But I like the idea of when the idea of loving yourself at all is such a weird thing to me that I still grapple with because it's not like a concept that I was brought up with.

And it's, you know, it's like such a strain.

But it's also like, well, what does that feel like?

You know what I mean?

If you, if you love yourself, and I guess it's just like need giving yourself a break.

What you need more BDE, big dick energy.

Yeah,

that's what self-love is.

That's what Winnie Houston was talking about.

The greatest love of all is big dick energy.

BDE.

Yeah.

At the end, she kind of goes, BD.

But it is like.

She kind of goes.

Nobody can say for sure.

Did she say BDE?

I don't know.

I think she kind of went.

I think she kind of did.

She kind of went BDE, but

yeah, it's like,

I just want to be

like in a healthier place mentally and physically.

Like, I don't think my health is bad right now, but I know that I feel better when I'm exercising regularly.

So, do you have like a goal?

Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt you.

I do interrupt all the time, but I didn't mean to.

You didn't mean to do that to me.

That's the one time.

Every other time you ended up.

Do you have like a goal?

Like, I'm going to do this, this, this.

You don't have to say if you don't want to, but well, no, there's good habits that I have had.

I just want to get better

every morning are you still doing the walks in the morning or no i've fallen off with that but i but i i like going to the gym like i when i get it when i get into it and i'm doing it and i get into a rhythm with it i love it i really i look forward to it you know yeah but it's so easy to get knocked off when you're knocked off for a couple days but i also i just have to figure out i have to get i want to get better at scheduling things you know what i mean i want to be more mindful about shit like that so that i can have more control over my own day day.

Yeah.

You know, and then hopefully not be late all the time and, you know, not get knocked off course with things that I want to do.

You know, it's when you can get into a groove where you look forward to, I mean, when I've, I've gone on vacation and worked out like

where it's like, I saw you on tour once, not maybe not a comedy bampang tour, but I saw you in a hotel once at like Sketchfest going down to the gym in the hotel.

I'm like, damn, Paul's really in the groove, you know?

And it's like, yeah, I mean, for me, breaking my ankle and then oh going on tour and having the baby has just really yeah wreaked havoc on me and so now it's like going upstairs is fucking really hard with my knees right now

and carrying the baby and I'm just like I got to in the new year

get back into it and just lose weight so I can just even carry the baby up and down.

You know, it's just like, she's only going to get bigger.

No, really?

Oh, shit, that's right.

What?

She promised to get smaller.

She's going to gain weight.

Yeah.

She did get smaller after birth.

But her New Year's resolution was to gain weight.

She did get smaller after birth.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So that's not true.

Okay, but from now on, though, it's going up.

From now on,

they tend to lose a lot.

They tend to lose a little weight after coming.

That's weird.

And then you have to get them back up to their birthday.

That's why I'm going to get them fast.

This is weird.

You're weird.

You told her that?

Yeah, I was like,

it's going to be her first memory.

Yep.

I remember my dad told me I was weird when I was one hour old.

What if you could remember every single thing from back then?

God damn it.

What a curse that would be.

Do you think Mary Lou Henner does?

Like it was a Thursday.

I think it came out.

I sucked on a nipple.

Ew.

I remember I was hungry.

I started crying.

She always just remembers the lunch.

I was wearing a diaper.

Oh, I remember which diaper that was.

It was the one I shit in.

Yeah, it was a white one.

I remember I was out in public, but I was like, I'm going to fall asleep anyway.

What about you?

Yeah, what about you?

One of mine is to read more.

And so I made the goal of 24 books.

So that's two a month, which I feel like is reasonable.

I'd like to go more than that, but I don't have to do that.

It's a jackpower amount.

Yeah, I don't know if that's

I don't want to overwhelm myself and then not do it at all.

So I'm going to say 24.

Okay.

And where,

when are you going to read these?

At least at night.

And why?

And where.

And I guess I could be in better on the couch.

Are you going to then go to bed earlier?

Because here's my issue with reading books.

Getting the phone away from me.

Here's my issue with reading books: no matter what time, if be it 8 p.m., 9 p.m., I go, you know what?

That's enough TV or whatever.

I'm going to go upstairs and read a book.

I'm asleep within 10 minutes.

Yeah.

But that's also good.

That's also good.

So I think I'll try to be more, you know, bring, and that's part of like bringing the book in my bag if I have a few minutes as opposed to scrolling.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

We did a no screens in the bedroom rule.

I did that for a while.

And and I think maybe I have to go back to that.

We don't have TV.

We don't have a TV either.

Yeah, yeah.

The screens.

Janie, every once in a while, wants that.

Like, if we go to a homework, sometimes it sounds great.

She's like, wouldn't it be like at home if we had a TV?

What if we've had a TV?

Yeah, we could watch

MSNBC at 11:30 at night.

I think it's a good time.

We could watch an episode of Suits.

It's maybe the ultimate indulgence to have a TV at the foot of your bed.

I used to have a TV in my bedroom, and I remember falling asleep to the TV.

And I just, I like it so much better without.

Yeah, I don't watch that much TV since having a baby, but I did used to watch so much.

And I feel like it's kind of better for me not to have it available everywhere I turn.

But

I love TV.

I do too.

Yeah.

I love the box itself.

Yeah.

You just like to look at it.

Yeah.

I like that they're so much lighter than my other thing is

also more exercising and keeping my, I've been trying to do more and eating better and all that stuff.

So just keep going.

How many push-ups can you do?

You know, I don't know, but I do have really

like real arm muscles now.

Really?

Which I'm like actually really shocked by it.

It's just from having them because you're really going to get flesh.

Let's do those guys.

I'm scared.

I'm scared.

I'm scared.

This is my,

I got blood drawn and they couldn't find it.

Okay, so you're not a drug addict.

Is that what you're trying to do?

You're not going to be able to.

You're hiding it behind the microphone.

It's right there.

It's right there.

Okay.

I mean, it's not Popeye level, but it's certainly not olive oil.

For having rested

before,

it's honestly really good.

Yeah.

Yeah.

He squeezed my arm.

It did go down when he squeezed it.

He couldn't hang it.

It didn't come back.

But it did, yeah.

But it was good.

The indentation of my fingers is still there.

Yeah, it was good.

I don't tend to walk around flexing.

My movie was cracker.

Yeah, you suddenly started eating, so now Paul and I have to talk.

I remember a comic that we know years ago was on a fitness kit.

Was it wait, was it Hagar the Horrible?

Yeah,

do you remember when he looked so ripped?

He was ripped.

Can we talk about this, by the way?

So we can in a second, dear.

So horrible.

When, oh, both arms?

Jesus.

When this comic we know, this is years ago, got into a fitness kick.

He was going to the gym every day.

It's not Caratoff.

And I remember, no, I don't know him.

Maybe someday.

Well, I met him.

But I remember like

seeing him at seeing him at Largo.

And

I think like he was in front of me and I was trying to get past him and I touched his arm and it was fucking solid as a rock.

Really?

I was like, wow.

I don't know who this is.

I'll tell you later.

The answer may surprise you.

Really?

Yes.

Yeah.

Because guess what?

Not now.

I do think the arm, my arm's getting stronger is solely from picking her up and putting it on all day.

Yeah.

I don't think that's that's I my I do a lot of Pilates these days, but it's not I don't feel like my arms are like getting really strong from you put rocks in her pockets.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

That's smart.

But she's like 22 pounds now, maybe a little more.

22 years old.

You're going to say, I'm like, what?

When did that happen?

22 pounds.

That's my goal weight.

Can I just talk about my needle?

Yes, please.

I had at my physical, I had

my blood drawn.

Blood drawn.

I tend to have an easier time on one arm than the other.

So I like sent them to that arm first.

And it was not coming out.

Oh, did you drink enough water?

I don't know.

Probably not.

I went to the doctor once for a physical, and they were like,

just, they're like, you are so dehydrated, we cannot get any blood out of you.

They were like, why?

We can't get any blood out of you.

They eventually switched arms and got it.

Yeah, they're like,

go drink some water.

Like, no, we can't find the vein.

We can't get any blood out of you.

They just couldn't get any.

Yeah, they're like, you need to stay.

This is

like, they drink a little more water.

It was coming and then it stopped.

And then she's like, oh, it stopped again.

And then I felt her pull the nerve.

It was bad.

Do you watch them put the the needle in?

No, no, no, no.

I never do.

I don't watch them put the needle in because I'm afraid I'm going to flinch.

But once they put it in, then you look down.

I never looked.

I always look away.

Do you love it?

I don't look at all that.

It's so wild to me to watch my blood fill that thing up.

It's like, wow.

Isn't that weird?

Yeah.

And it looks, you know what?

I love that it looks like a rich, beautiful red.

Wow.

I love the texture of it.

Yes, the seguid blood of the innocents.

Yes.

Yeah.

I love it.

I love watching it.

I don't have an issue with.

I also love if they say I have good veins.

Yeah.

If they look at my arm and they say, oh, great.

That's, that's very.

Your body's terrible, but your veins.

I'm just kidding.

Your body's terrible.

Can you imagine getting your blood drawn?

The nurse says, your body is terrible.

I'm not here for that.

Is that just insane that you just get one body?

I'm a nurse.

I can say whatever I want.

I'm in the medical movement.

It is.

We should get more than one.

I know.

That's unfair.

It is.

I also think if you lose weight, it should never come back on.

But what if you needed to?

For what?

If you lost weight because you were sick and then you needed the weight to it.

Oh, right, right, right.

No, I think it should be if it's intentional.

Okay.

It just sucks that you can.

If you work out and get toned, it should stay that way.

Yes.

It just sucks that like

a year, was it a year?

Yeah, a year ago, I was like.

Working out all the time, gained a lot of muscle, super skinny, and now it's all gone.

Yeah.

It's not fair.

It should not be like that.

How come we get a whole second set of teeth, but nothing else regenerates?

I know.

That's like, I was thinking about that the other day.

Should come in.

Yeah.

When you lose, push the old ones out.

When you lose brand new ones,

another one just should.

I talked about my floater in my eye.

No.

No.

I have a floater.

Floater of what?

I have a floater.

Breasts.

Of what?

It's debris.

I don't know.

It's just a little, it's a, it's, it's part of the gel of your eye.

It can kind of come detached and be floating in your eye.

But I was having it where I couldn't see past it.

And I was feeling kind of like, this might be bad.

So then I, it was lasting for like a week.

And then I went into the doctor and they took the pictures of my eye and you could see it, which I thought that was very validating because there's that part of me that's crazy.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Or that a floater is like an imaginary.

Yes, because it's like a semi-invisible from the light or something.

It's like it's not.

It's actually a thing floating in the eye.

They could see it.

And then

there is a surgery you could do, but it wasn't that dramatic.

But they were like, the other option is you just wait and eventually your eyes will see around it.

And like,

and I still see it sometimes, and it's really annoying.

Yeah.

I used to get floaters.

I haven't gotten them in a while.

Oh my God.

My brain is so bad.

Eye stuff is very scary.

I know.

You know, I have that.

I've, I've, I believe I've told you this.

I have that like a like sort of crumbly pigment in my eye that causes pressure and it could lead to glaucoma.

So every once in a while I have to go to an ophthalmologist and get it checked out.

And sometimes they will, if it's, if it's bad, they will zap lasers into my eyes.

Wow.

Just like, do you keep it?

Star Wars lasers?

Star Wars lasers.

What is it?

And they make the sound.

It breaks up the

pigment that's collecting in a certain place where it's not supposed to be.

So it levels.

It's like so complicated.

Like they show me the thing.

You wouldn't understand it.

Is that what you're trying to say?

Yeah.

I mean, I don't know how to explain.

I don't know how to dumb it down for you guys.

It's okay.

You don't have to.

Just iBad, laser.

I bad, laser good.

Laser make good.

I bad laser good.

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We're back.

Let me tell you something.

If you thought we weren't back, also you were wrong.

A little peep behind the curtain.

Yeah.

We don't just look at our phones during the breaks.

No, sure, we look at our phone.

We look at our phones.

But we also

chat with each other.

We're real friends in real life.

We tell stories that you can't hear.

Yeah.

Yes.

Oh, I should have told you who the comedian was.

Well, I'll tell you after the next part.

Damn it.

Do you remember Carol and Marilyn?

Real friends?

No.

Carol and Marilyn or Carol and Marilyn?

Carol and Marilyn.

No, I don't know them.

There was a talk show.

It was a syndicated talk show, and their hook was...

Let me look at this up.

They weren't just the host of the show.

They were friends in real real life.

That's what you're talking about.

Carol and Marilyn, real friends.

Unlike every other host and co-host of any other show who hate each other, they despise each other, only talk on camera.

But they, what was funny was as you watched the show, their friendship disintegrated, you could see their friendship disintegrated.

Oh, like it's not working.

You could see one

was clearly better at it than the other one and was like, I'm so mad that I have to do this with you.

Oh, wow.

That's so sad.

It was on ABC from June 10th, 1996 to May 30th, 1997.

And it was an hour-long daytime talk of already show.

I watched it for a while, and I don't know.

I couldn't tell you why.

I couldn't tell you why.

Interesting.

I think it was just kind of.

They gained fame as the comedy duo known as The Mommies.

The Mommies Ruby.

Oh, that's right.

The Mommies.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And this is like pre-social media.

Yeah, they would have been huge on social media.

Or would they not have?

Yeah, maybe.

Or would they be the, what were they?

The sugar babies?

Who are the people who

Who are the people?

The try guys and the whatever babies.

They would be like the try guys now.

Wait, there was like, was there like a woman's auxiliary of the try guys called the something babies?

Yeah, because the wife.

I feel bad talking about other podcasters.

But

the wife that was cheated on was a something baby.

Adultery baby?

Sorry, dry guys.

You've been roasted.

By three of them.

Gotcha.

Only months later we're waiting in.

Yeah, we finally decided to

googled you generally.

Do you think the mommies today would have been as big as the woman who draws the comics who hates her husband clearly?

Wait, who's that?

There is this woman who draws comics, puts them on Instagram, and it's like me getting ready for a trip with the family, and she has to do all this shit.

Husband getting ready.

Okay, I've got my

slips on or whatever.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But it was like every day.

I've seen that.

It was like, maybe your husband's a bad person.

This isn't funny.

Food babies.

Yeah.

Our producer Matt says.

Food.

Food babies.

Thank you, all producer.

And the only reason I know this is because of the very funny SNL Brendan

Gleason sketch.

Brendan Gleason?

Yes, from Banshees.

Yes.

Yes.

And from Lake Placid?

Yes.

And where he's trying to explain this on CNN.

You see, she's a food baby.

It's very funny.

Don't.

this just in father of donal that's right

my crush that's right what what did you see him in the was it star wars or no it's like he's not hot in star wars what about in his black mirror well black mirror is where i first was introduced to him about

about time or maybe i was introduced to him what's her name hey at well yeah um yeah about time is one of my favorite movies well to be fair i have more of a crush on Peggy Carter than I do on Haley Atwell.

With the shield and the.

Well, when she became Captain Britain?

Oh, my.

Sure.

yeah, totally.

I've seen it, you've seen it, I've seen it.

That's the thing.

It's like, I've seen it, you've seen it.

No one can argue that you've seen this.

Even if I don't weigh in, it's like, I still know what you're talking about.

Yeah.

I remember watching life is better for it.

Watching AG Carter.

In some ways, it is.

I remember watching AG Carter and seeing some comedians turn up on that.

And I'm like, what the fuck?

All this shit I have to put up with for the way I dress.

And I don't even get to be in any of these periods.

You know.

You really should be.

Right?

I'm ready to go.

What are we talking about?

It's like, get in.

I'll bring my own clothes.

I got a mustache.

I got a ton of hats.

I saw something the other day.

I'm like, why isn't Lauren in this?

Honestly, I wasn't.

Wow, really?

What was it?

Why is the Lauren Lapka story?

I'll tell you off, Mike.

I was like,

you know what?

I have that question all the time.

Yeah.

I'd love to know more.

But yeah,

Donald, great guy.

Donald, great guy.

Do you think he knows you exist?

No.

Did you watch?

Is that good or is that bad?

He might know I exist.

It's okay.

I don't need him to know exactly.

I don't mean in the general sense of like, yes, he knows there are 7 billion people on planet.

Oh, no.

I mean, like, maybe.

Oh, and weren't you in DeRong, Missy?

It's herself, Darong, Missy.

Well, I did love them on that podcast that you sent me, which I have talked about on this before.

They were like talking about sandwiches or something.

Or not sandwiches, like food.

Off-menu?

Yeah.

Yes.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

They're very funny boys.

Not sandwiches, but food.

Yeah, it was a more general topic of.

Not restricted just to sandwiches.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

did you watch the patient i bet i haven't finished

i actually am a little scared of that show but i've watched like four episodes i think he's great in it yeah he's great he's so good his and his accent is so good it's so good he's doing an american accent

is

flawless ex machina dude i've never seen

an american accent right yeah yeah yeah i think i saw him in that before i kind of really knew who he was yeah he's great now i love that movie

that was a wild movie man so it's wild that guy makes wild movies that guy's wild should i watch it Ex Makina?

Yeah, you definitely should.

Yeah, it's weird.

They're both great in it.

Oscar Isaac is great.

He's like,

he's jacked in boxing during it.

If I had known Donald Trump, he does a little dance.

I would have watched it a million years ago.

Yeah.

Yeah, I like Oscar Isaac.

He's one of those people that I have a fondness to do.

What is your moon night impression?

Did you watch

Marriage?

I took a nap and woke up.

I was a moon night.

Scenes from a marriage.

I did not watch Scenes from a Marriage because it seemed like a drag.

Oh, my God.

I watched that.

That was intense.

Janie watched it, and then when I saw them like walking off the set and stuff, that part

was like, why is this

part really bothered me?

And I actually should like read something about it because I remember being like, wait, what?

What did you have to make that?

Your New Year's resolution is to read.

That's true.

I'll check that out.

I feel like it's like, what am I supposed to get from this?

So they're actors doing it.

Why?

Why?

Let me say this to you.

I actually don't understand.

Jessica Chastain.

Yeah.

A person I think is clearly a good actor.

Yeah.

But I don't, she doesn't do anything for me as an actor.

You know what I mean?

Like, it's not, I don't think she's bad.

Yeah.

But she doesn't, it doesn't move me ever.

You know, like I'm watching the George and Tammy thing.

You watch that, you might have, you might feel, I felt like.

Was the Jimmy Glick movie she did?

Did she do that?

Tammy Faye.

Oh, Tammy Faye.

Yeah.

I thought she was like, how could that seem so fun to get to play a big character like that?

Yeah.

And being like,

you know, something like that.

That was good.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Do you have anything to do with that?

Hold on a player?

Yes.

We should all do it and see who's best.

Okay.

You do it.

Okay.

No, I mean we should all make a movie.

Oh, okay.

We should each make a Tammy Faye movie.

Yes.

And Michael Sherwalter would direct all three.

Oh, I love that.

Yeah.

Simultaneously.

Yes.

When he says action, it's going to be on three different sets and we all have to do action.

When he says cut, we all have to cut, no matter what's happening.

Sounds like it might be a good idea.

Yeah.

It's so funny.

Lauren, it would be a good idea.

If you were in a biopic playing someone famous, who would you be?

Who would I be?

Is there someone either physically?

Ugly people throughout history I've been compared to online.

Honestly, I would say

TJ Floss.

No, but I mean,

you're not ugly, by the way.

Someone, right.

I guess what I mean is like someone where you've said, like, oh, my God,

her life or his life is so interesting.

And I could probably pull it off if I could.

Yeah, I don't know if I have one off the top of my head.

Oh, okay.

My mom would always say that it should be in the biopic about Gabby Gifford.

I was like, why would I be the person who would do that?

Good job.

Why would that be me?

Of all people.

I would constantly go.

What's hard?

You look like someone who gets shot in the head.

Your own mother.

I could see you playing someone who got a bullet in their fucking head.

Mom, why are you saying that?

Hey, take it easy.

I literally was just like, actually, I don't know how it would not be comedic.

Like, I'm like, the part.

It's just you being married to an astronaut.

Okay.

That part.

That part.

That part.

What about you, Paul?

Paul, who do you want to do it?

God damn.

It's a really hard question because it's like, it could be anything.

I always think that also, like, the big main actors, like Christian Bale or whatever, will like pluck their hair out of their bald head and stuff.

Like, totally change their appearance.

You know, when played Dick Cheney?

I think what it is, you don't have to look anything like the person.

Okay, yes.

Yes.

Like it's just who you would want to do their life story.

Right.

You know what?

I mean, this is not somebody that I admire, but the story of

H.H.

Holmes, who was a famous serial killer in Chicago

around the time of the World's Fair, he had what was referred to as a murder castle.

And he like built this crazy house and he lured people there because people would come from out of town and he would lure women there and kill them in all these various ways.

It's like a very, very dark story.

It's crazy.

Is this what that book is about?

The Devil in the White City.

Yeah, yeah.

Wait, that's about that.

It's about that and the World's Fair at the same time.

It's a great book.

But they just, I've heard I've seen it.

Didn't it just fall apart?

Like Keanu just dropped out of it or whatever?

So it's been, they've been trying to make it.

Because Tom Cruise was going to do it for

that.

And I think

Keanu was getting made and he just dropped out of it.

So it's available.

You should do it.

Sure.

If those guys are, I mean, I guess they're done looking for famous people.

Yeah.

They got rid of it too.

Well, should I just tell them?

I'm open?

Yeah.

Like, just volunteer.

Send them on an available.

If you can't get anybody, I'll do it.

Yeah.

But those two, we were talking about this recently.

They're very contemporary actors, and I don't think it would have worked with them in that time period.

Now I sort of feel like Keanu could pull anything off.

I could take Keanu.

But not

Tom Cruise.

No.

You don't think Tom Cruise can pull anything off?

Well,

we were talking about this on another show.

It's true.

What we can say now is

out.

Interview of the Vampire.

Interview with the Vampire.

He's just ridiculous.

We played the Vampire.

Last time.

They had to put like a hexachord behind him anytime he was on screen.

So people would think.

So they would think what?

That he was like more of a Renaissance.

Renaissance dance.

In Canada?

Yeah.

I would play.

I would like to watch that, actually, now that you're saying it.

the vampire?

Yeah, have fun.

It's, man, it's not good.

It's not good.

I feel like that was such a big movie at the time.

It was.

I think it was such a big movie.

No, I said, I feel like it.

It was a huge deal because

these books were like a huge thing.

And so the first movie adaptation, there was a big controversy about Tom Cruise being cast and all that shit.

And

he's such a modern actor.

Yes.

But when you watch it now, it's terrible.

Okay.

Yeah, they were right.

People that said that was a bad idea.

Yeah.

You're right on the money.

Yeah.

I would play Jesus of Nazareth.

Wow.

Oh, he's a good one.

He's a great guy.

He's a good one.

I'd play Judas.

Oh, I forgot to play with him.

I'd play Mary.

That's how it'd be.

Oh, yeah.

We should do the movie together.

Oh, okay.

I mean, they knew each other.

I don't know.

But it's like, how am I going to do a full biopic on Mary if I'm also watching a whole movie?

Hold on a second on Jesus.

Well, we would do it.

This is like do-it-Marvel style.

Yeah.

So you're introduced at the end of the Jesus movie.

It's like, mom, what are you doing here?

And then the next movie is your movie.

Yeah, I love that.

And then who shows up at the end?

Honey, we're out of figs.

It's Joseph.

And that's my movie.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's really cool.

So it's going backwards.

So from Jesus to Mary.

Yeah, it can.

I'm sure.

Some of them do.

Yeah.

Okay.

I like it.

Iron Man came out before Captain America.

That's a great point.

Thank you.

I hope I'm right, by the way.

No, you are, because Iron Man was the first one.

The first Avenger.

Yeah.

Oh, no.

Captain America was the first Avenger.

It was the first movie where they were like, oh, these people want to see this.

And then they were like, let's go to the 40s, kid.

Hey, Ken, yeah.

The part where Chris Evans is small.

It's so funny.

It's so much.

It's so funny.

He's a little teeny scrawny guy.

Yeah.

And then he gets the muscles and he's a big normal guy.

Yeah.

Lauren, would you, if you were cast in like the wasp, you know, like a wasp type role, would you get jacked for it?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

How would you do it?

Whatever they tell me to do.

So they would have to tell you.

They'd set me up with a trainer and a diet and I would eat and do everything they said.

And I wouldn't mind if they do that right now.

What if I do it for you?

They're going to do it.

Set me up.

I would just tell you.

Here's where it really.

The idea of it being your job to work out.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Where that's your day, where it's like, you don't have to do anything else, just work out.

Somebody's going to cook for you.

This is all taken care of.

The cooking is where I really get stuck because I'm like, if somebody just made me all my meals.

Here's what we should do: hire each other chefs.

Yeah.

Like, that way.

I don't want to pay for a chef for myself.

As a gift.

But as a a gift, I'll hire one for you.

You hire one for Paul.

I'll be a power a full-time chef for you.

You hired someone for me.

That sounds great.

I went over to someone's house who had a private chef just like.

That's weird to me.

Just hanging out and then making like occasionally they come by and go, I made all these snacks.

And you'd be like, oh, okay.

And then, oh, it just seemed so great.

I mean, it sounds fun

for when you have people over.

It's just

like a part of the family at that point.

If they are.

I'll tell you who it was later.

I'd love to know.

We'll swap.

I know someone who has that as well.

I don't know them.

I know someone who went to someone's house where that was there.

Yeah.

And it made sense, but it's wild.

But, but wouldn't it take care of so many of the issues you have of like at six o'clock going like I'm hungry, but we don't have anything in the house.

Let's order three pizzas.

Yeah.

You know?

No, because then they go, no, no, no, I made you.

No, no, I made you this nice.

Order three pizzas.

You have a problem.

They're small.

There's nothing in the house.

Let's order three pizzas.

Well, you don't.

have some for like emeralds eating a pizza.

No, here's my this guy.

Hey, here's my point of view when you order

from

set it up like TikTok.

Okay.

POV.

POV.

No, when you order from a restaurant and they just...

POV is used so wrong.

People get it wrong all the fucking time.

People on video.

When you order from a place like Uber Eats or whatever, I always try to order, because you're paying a service charge and the tip and everything, I always try to order like three meals worth.

Yeah.

So that you can then don't have to do it again the next day or whatever.

You know what I mean?

I just left that.

Like last night I got a salad delivered and I also got one for the next day.

Yeah, exactly.

Jersey Mike's.

Yeah.

Hell, I'll get three sandwiches.

And you know what?

I'll get them Mike's way.

Wow.

But that might get squishy.

Are we doing ads right now?

Mike loves things to be squishy.

Are we doing ads and not getting paid for them right now?

Mike, yeah, it's squishy.

We got to take a break.

I lost my train of thought.

Oh, we gotta take a break.

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I was about to say that.

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And we're back.

We are back and it's time to play a creature.

We revealed all our secrets during the break.

Yep.

Did we all enjoy it?

I did.

I did.

We enjoyed the secrets.

I enjoyed hearing yours, not revealing mine.

Oh, that's right.

You didn't reveal anything.

No, I did reveal one to him, but I didn't enjoy revealing it.

You just didn't hear me.

Oh, okay.

Yeah.

Interesting.

Yeah.

All right.

Well, it's still a secret.

Isn't that funny?

I guess so.

I didn't hear it.

It's time to play a three-chirper.

This is the game wherein.

No, well, I'll do it because I know who sent it and what it's called.

I know who sent it and what it's called.

This is Word Alley Oop submitted by Tim Ward.

We've played it before, and

basically we just text each other a word.

It's just a simple.

And we have to use the word in a scene.

And then at the end of the scene, we guess what word it was.

Yes.

And so we're going to each try to make it.

Do you think I couldn't have explained that as well?

No, but you didn't know the title of it.

You didn't know Tim Ward's name.

That's true.

Although I guess I could have just swooped in there at the end.

And by the way, this was submitted by Tim Ward.

You could have.

I'm torn on this now.

You know what?

One of my New Year's resolutions was to apologize to Lauren more, so I'm sorry.

Wow.

Wait, from last year?

Yeah.

Or no, it was your resolution this year.

Yeah.

Yeah.

He's hitting it under the wire.

All right, this is good.

I'd love to hear more of those apologies as time goes on.

Yeah.

All right.

Let's play the game.

So, sorry.

What happened?

No, that's okay.

Actually, I don't think I like this.

I don't like this kind of

focus attention.

And by the way, we're, we all, I'm going to text Lauren.

Lauren's going to text Paul.

Paul's going to text me.

Yeah.

But

we try to say the word as like under the radar as possible so that we the the no one guesses what they are do you think that it should be

that it has to be said more than once or no no just once no once okay yeah just once but uh we're trying to text each other

words that maybe the uh

the other person wouldn't use normally so that they stand out and you have to sort of like fly under the radar with it as much as possible does everyone have their word yes yes yes

Hunt.

Hunt.

Hey, guys, it's me, Lou Reed.

You want to take a walk on the wild side?

Not really, Lou.

I know you asked us.

You don't want to go to the Apollo?

You don't want to go, go, go?

I really, please don't talk about the color girls either.

I really don't.

You know what they say.

Hey, actually, I was just trying to pass by here.

Excuse me so much.

Oh, sorry.

Hey, sorry.

Are we in your way?

I hope it is.

This is my friend Lou.

Maybe you know Lou.

I've heard of your song.

Hey, can I give you some advice?

Sure.

Don't lose your head.

Even when you give it a head.

Do you?

Did he?

Did he?

Did he?

Diddy.

I apologize for it.

Don't do that.

I only bite penises.

Oh.

Sounds like Valio would have helped that bash.

Is your jaw wired shut?

It is.

From biting a penis?

It is.

This is a punishment.

Do you bite like soft penises, hard penises?

Like if my penis was hard.

Penis is a combo rock.

Let's not make it about penis.

Oh, sorry.

That's a penis.

No, but if my penis.

I was hot dogs.

If my my penis were softer, if it was elongated, would it be like something that would I'm not talking to you?

I'm actually watching.

I'm cooler than him.

What?

Hey, where are you from?

Miami, FLA?

No one's cooler than Lou Reed.

Thank you.

I'm actually,

I'm actually, I'm opening the store right behind you.

I'm just pull up this big guy.

Oh, you oh, you work here, or you own the store?

Yeah,

did you just say, do, did do, did you, did you, did you, do, do, did do what?

I I heard what I heard.

Just at my shop, as I'm selling flowers and just all sorts of things, and, you know, surreptitiously throwing in a few little asides like gummies and weeds and things.

Ooh.

Do you have anything for somebody who thought they were James Deed for a day?

Do, did do, did you, do, did do, do, did, do, did, do.

Godly, why am I hanging out with you?

You are so cool.

I guess, I guess.

Oh, well, yes, I do have something for that.

Oh, yeah.

You tried these green ones.

Ooh, let me try them.

Good.

$40.

Oh.

Wait, I thought these were free samples because he said, let me try one.

No, I said these are good and you should have the green one.

Well, he said, let me try one.

Like, that it's heavily implied.

If you don't like him, we get you to fund him.

And then I said, hey, babe, take a look at the outside.

Okay, have we done it?

Yeah.

We've done it.

All right.

What?

Oh, so now

you have to guess mine.

Paul has to guess.

Lauren has to guess mine.

I think yours, I just have no idea.

I'm like,

no.

I mean, I would guess sample, but I don't think that's right.

Mine was elongated.

Okay.

Okay.

Now, Paul, you really weren't guessing something you would notice.

Lauren's Lauren's.

Is that right?

Yeah.

Was your word

gummy?

No.

What was it?

Surreptitiously.

I didn't even hear that.

Yeah, I threw it in.

Yeah.

And you, I feel like you chose Lou Reed because of the word.

Yeah.

Which was.

But I was not paying attention because I was so thrown by your choice to be Lou Reed at the beginning.

I guess wild is the only thing I can say.

Valium.

Valium.

Yeah.

Okay.

Interesting.

Yeah.

I like it.

Got to admit, flawless Lou Reed impression.

Hey, guys.

It's me, Lou Reed.

It was really good.

And I didn't even get it right away why you chose it, even though I gave you the word.

All right.

So now do we want to go the other way?

I'll give Paul's

California.

All right.

So I give a word to Lauren.

All right.

I have texted Paul.

Paul is texting Lauren.

Lauren, meanwhile, is texting me.

This is the exciting part of the game, as far as I'm concerned, where we're all silently looking down at our phones, texting one word to each other.

One word texted to each other.

Okay.

Okay.

All right.

Gentlemen,

there's an issue with the funds.

The funds.

There's an issue with the funds.

There's an issue with the funds.

I was doing our banking.

What's going on with your outfit?

My outfit is a it's just well, it's it's the drawing of a suit on just a very long t-shirt.

Yeah, is that that what you're having a problem with?

Well, I just, like, it's really accentuated.

Is that what you're bumping up against?

Yeah, it's just like all I'm having a bit of.

I don't really care about all of your body.

Please don't talk about my body at all.

Please do not say a word.

Your titties.

Don't say it.

Your fupa.

Please tell me.

Please tell me there's enough money left over to fund my Gregorian church.

The money has been allocated and misallocated all over the place.

It is a mess.

Okay.

Piles of money where they're not supposed to be.

So much is going wrong.

And you are.

You know what?

You're both fired, and you both only hit 50,000.

50,000?

That should settle it.

Why

I have to chant.

Am I fired

for chanting?

Does my intonation bother you?

All right.

Can I guess, Paul?

Sure.

It's either Gregorian or chant.

Intonation.

I got it just under the wire.

All right.

Yours was misallocated or allocated.

Yeah, it was misallocated.

I thought you gave it to me.

So I was like, why are you telling me?

Okay, Paul, you gotta guess mine.

I wasn't paying attention to you.

Good.

So I don't know.

I was having too much fun singing.

Would it surprise you to know know it was fupa

which is why i brought it up

which is why i brought it up

you gotta admit i slid it under

you did a good job you really did you really did i think that drawing a

suit on a t-shirt was the perfect game

I noticed you tried to steer me away.

I said, stop talking about my body.

Stop talking about my body.

I didn't want you to get to say it.

I did not want that.

Oh, okay.

I enjoyed that.

Hey, you know what?

We have a phone number.

It's HaHala Impu.

Yeah.

And I understand we have a voicemail.

Our producer, Matt Approducer, is going to find it for us.

Matt APRDUCER.

And look, if you want to call us, you know, ask us for advice or something to prompt a discussion or whatever,

we're happy to hear that.

Yeah.

Don't just get on there and ramble.

Like, try to keep it

to three seconds.

All right.

Anywhere from three to five seconds.

I don't know that he had one ready to go.

He did.

Okay.

Okay, good, good, good.

All right.

Here we go.

Let's listen to it.

This is a voicemail.

Hello, Paul.

Scott.

Lauren.

I got a little problem that you guys might be able to help out with.

I just moved into a new home and

furniture dog, small black dog.

And he is being harassed by the crows, local crows.

Oh, the local crows.

Okay, these are out-of-town crows?

But I thought you guys might have some solutions to help me maybe give some peace offerings to the crows or, you know, something to protect my dog.

I don't know if they're going to go after him or not.

This is tough because you can't.

Yeah, I thought you guys might have some advice.

Hey, shut the fuck up.

Crows are incredibly intelligent and humans can befriend them.

Yes.

I know someone who was trying to make this happen.

You should go online and figure out how to please the crows because you can leave them things

like a special offering.

Because I know that.

No, I think he's asking us for ideas to house the crows.

Rather than

go online.

To tell him to go online.

Well, I don't have ideas.

I have ideas, honey.

Well, then I'm glad I talked first.

I'm glad you jumped in there.

Well, I know that you can befriend them.

You can befriend them.

A good thing to, here's what I've, what I've heard is if you, if you are consistent with it, like they like cashews, right?

So you put cashews in a certain place, but you want to do it at the same time every day.

So they always be cashews.

They pick up on, well, whatever it is.

So they pick up on the idea that this is a regular thing.

Yeah.

They get, they get, they get their cashew connect.

Yes.

They get the knowledge that, oh, this guy fucking does this every day.

Great.

Well, he's coming here.

And then they will like you because they do have long memories and they can also, they can befriend you, but they can also remember you as somebody who they do not not like.

Yeah, somebody memorized scary.

They remember faces.

If you can, find something called a crow box, which is a way that you can also make money from these crows.

What?

A crow box is essentially like a vending machine for you could put nuts, seeds, whatever in there that crows like to eat.

And you can get kits online.

And then they pay for the.

What you do is you put some coins around there.

Yeah.

They put the coins in and they get their food out.

Yes.

So then what they will do is they'll go fucking get coins from other places and bring coins.

They have coins everywhere.

Yes.

Wow.

And then you make like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's what they do.

And then what do you use the coins for?

To buy more food for the crows.

I mean, it's a vicious segment.

You put it in your bank account and let it grow.

Yeah.

You take a bunch of an IRA.

You take a bunch of quarters to the bank and say, I have this many monies.

Yeah.

And then you get a lollipop.

Yeah.

Wow.

I love that.

You know a surprising amount

about crows.

I'd say they're familiar with that.

You're like the person to ask about this.

That's right.

That was a perfect question.

So

I had something, which was ask Paul.

Yeah, and go online.

All right, that's going to do it for us.

Thank you for that question, whoever you were.

Yes, please do not tell us your name.

Don't ever tell us your name.

We don't want to know the names.

If you want to follow us on social media at threedomusa,

if you want to call us, Paul already said the name.

And Impu.

I said the name of the phone number.

Yep.

And if you want to email us a threecher threedomusa at gmail.com yes and if you want to listen to old episodes we're releasing we're of course three visiting on the twos that's right and uh if you want to hear ad-free episodes go to stitcher premium or cbbworld.com and paul has already put his

headphones away

my phone charger that's your phone charger charge my phone up that's all i'm just packing my bag okay you guys are mentally out of here yep yep soon to be followed by physically

Thank you so much for listening.

We love you.

Bye.

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