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Ah!

French champagne.

Maybe the best intro we've ever had.

A reference to what was his name?

Olson Wells.

Now

we're going to call for a champagne if you anyone who's seen the video will will get that reference i apologize uh it's a mailbag it's a mailbag i don't have a tune we didn't get sent any tunebag we didn't get send sent any tunes no

we're done that's a mailbag

the whole thing once again

um we've been treat we've been spoiled with music honestly quite frankly we should just do this one in silence so much so an hour of silence maybe too much maybe too much music you know it's too memoriam of good music Memoriam.

Well, let's kick it off with something that I've been sent by a few people.

Hi, Pyrrhion, big fan.

Of the podcast.

In Mailbag 51, you were talking about the Twilight series, and you said, I think it's just an entry-level drug to 50 Shades of Grey.

Well, fun fact.

When the Twin Towers fell on 9-11, a man named Gerard Way witnessed the event, and it inspired him to start the emo rock band My Chemical Romance.

His band was then used by Stephanie Meyer as the inspiration for the Twilight series.

E.L.

James, a fan of the book, then wrote a Twilight fan fiction, which then became 50 Shades of Grey.

So 9-11 caused 50 Shades of Grey.

And Twilight and My Chemical Romance.

Yeah, yeah.

Interesting.

Gee whiz.

I mean, I guess it is such a big event that a lot of things will have,

you know, been created off the back of such an event.

Indeed.

I think it's just because they feel disconnected.

Yeah.

Even though I think three of those things feel like the same thing to me.

The odd one out here is 9-11.

Let's be real.

An emo band a band about a book about vampires a book about i don't know what abusive relationship i don't know i haven't read it i don't know what it's about

what 50 shades of gray yeah right

i don't know much about it either

no it's a guy um isn't it it's a guy who's like a psychologist but he has like uh lots of different uh fetishes i think oh it's i think that's what it is yeah i mean

i'm not i i don't

three old men speculate about a popular sexy book that came out from the future.

They'll tweak their theories based on the loose information you've gathered over the years.

When did 50 Shades of Grey come out?

I feel like that's been out for a long time now.

It's not

even, not even close to being a new thing anymore.

And it's 50 Shades of Grey.

The thing is, his name is Grey.

That's right.

Yeah.

And it's like all his different...

That's the idea.

It's all the different sides of his personality.

He goes through all the different kinks.

Yeah.

The man's got 50 kinks.

Yeah.

I guess so.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's crazy.

Can you name them?

Yeah, when he's pouring hot magma into his cup.

Right.

That's where we're starting, is it?

On naming kinks.

Pouring liquid magma down your camera.

I'll bring out a we notepad.

Where did you get the liquid magma from?

Yeah, man.

You wait for a volcano to erupt.

Or you just pop over to a volcano and just like scoop a bit up.

It's called dedication.

Kinky.

This goes.

So we've got magma down cockhole.

Are you writing this down?

Yes, I'm noting these down.

We need 40

shit.

49 to go.

49 more to go.

Okay.

I think he's a bicycle fucker.

Hamsters in your asshole.

Hamsters.

Aided by

a toilet paper tube.

With toilet roll

tube.

That's got to be number 40.

That's the frightening one.

These are all like

serious stuff.

There must have been a point where someone's penis was small enough and someone's nose holes were large enough that you could fuck someone's nose.

Absolutely.

Nose fucking.

Right.

Brackets where possible.

Yeah.

I mean, I feel that that's just putting your dick into anything.

Yeah, but I want it to go all the way up in the nostril.

like that bit in Total Recall when Arnie pulls the probe out of his head with that thing and his nose goes all big, but in reverse, because it's a cock going up that nose, if that makes sense.

Can we move on already?

We've got 460 ghosts!

We've got quite a few more shades to cover.

If you want to move on, then so be it.

Yeah, fine.

Yeah, we'll move on.

That's fine.

Okay.

Hello.

I am freshly out of a long-term relationship and decided to sign up for Tinder.

Despite listening to the podcast for years and hearing a lot of horrific dating stories, I thought there was surely no way anything bizarre could happen to me using a dating app.

No, I never thought that the leper would eat my face.

Yeah.

Dot, dot, dot, dot, dot.

I was wrong.

After a few weeks of using the app and talking to a couple of girls that I matched with, one of them in particular paired very well with my personality, as far as I could tell.

She was incredibly beautiful and made it a point to talk about how much she liked my long, wavy hair as it goes below my shoulders.

I thought nothing of it at the time, just assuming it was a compliment and nothing more.

We decided to go to a bar around where she lived for the first date, had a few drinks, few laughs, things were going very well.

Throughout the night, she kept twirling my hair around her fingers and commenting on how nice it felt, which I thought was a little strange, but again, thought nothing of it.

After being at the bar with her for a few hours, she asked me if I'd like to come back to her place.

This has never happened to me before.

And I couldn't have been more excited, but I played it cool and we headed back to her apartment.

We walked in and she immediately started kissing me.

I was having a great time until she said something she wanted she had something she wanted to show me she grabbed me by the hand and led me into her bedroom closet where she had a full barber chair and hair clippers laid out next to it she then asked me if she could shave my head and told me she had a fetish for the act of shaving a man's long hair now i understand everybody is into what they're into and cannot help it but of course as this was the first date and an incredibly bizarre request i said no she then started to cry and begged me to let her do it i quickly gathered my things and went home and deleted the app soon after where Where do you, oh, where do you go from there, though?

She shaves your head, then she's like,

get out of here.

Yeah.

Your hair is not long anymore.

My fetish is not possible to

do.

That's a bit messed up, yeah.

She should seek therapy for that.

So in her closet, she had a full barber chair with like clippers, everything like ready to go.

Yeah, she had it.

In her in a secret cupboard, it's obviously like something that...

Or maybe not so secret why does she not why does she not just work at a hairdresser because she'd be maybe she'd be just like orgasming nonsense just coming all day like it really

well oh maybe not so much with if she did women's hair maybe not so much is the fetish specific to men with long wavy hair it's maybe it's also specific to men who don't want it you know it's the delilah

it's the delilah it's the samson and delilah fetish she is she is going to be a serial killer.

I'm just putting out.

She might already be one.

There's a lot of cold cases out there.

I'm just saying.

Sorry, a serial killer of nice hair, of long hair.

I see.

A lot of people.

I mean,

it's only a matter of time, though, before she ties someone up and, you know, like kidnaps someone and shaves their hair.

Yeah, but just to shave their hair.

You know, yeah, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

She's not going to actually.

There are words.

Of course.

But I think that it's.

She should join the army.

Yeah.

She could just be the

like at the start of Full Metal Jacket.

She She could join the army.

Mama, darling, hello.

And she's just in the background, like crossing her legs,

crying.

The real thing, though, I mean, when I had long hair, I was sick of it.

I was ready to get rid of it, you know.

And so, but the thing is, imagine I met this woman on Tinder.

Not that I'm available, you know, and I had long hair.

And, you know, we went out out and we, and I did allow it.

I was like, oh, this is a match made in heaven, right?

She can shave off my head.

Um, and

what happens then, though, is as soon as she sees sex with her with shaved hair, you have to sex with her.

Yes, no, no, no.

Yes, she's so aroused by the act of shaving you.

You have sex, and then she's not at all interested in you, like a lot of men who just want to have like a sandwich right after and

don't talk and stuff, you know?

Well, that's the same thing.

Those men, they're treating you poorly, are they?

Yeah, your boyfriends.

That's a shame.

She just has a cigarette and says, Pack up your things.

Yeah,

fuck it out, you bold cunt.

That's what she's saying.

Or she starts screaming, put it back on, put it back, and tries to like sew the hair back onto your bald head or something.

Or she wears it like a wig, like

Buffalo Bill.

Yeah,

she puts a fake wig.

I shave me.

I fucking shave me.

You fuck me.

And these voice.

I buzz.

Yeah, he's

not

away.

Oh, man.

All right, anyway.

This is from someone from Delaware.

Growing up, I always thought of Lego as a toy only meant for a child.

And while at one point that might have been true, myself and a lot of others have started to see Lego as more of a therapeutic exercise rather than a children's activity.

My wife was very much into Lego before I met her, and we really connected through it.

I thought there was going to be a Lego joke there, but there wasn't.

We would spend hours putting them together, just talking about whatever random topic came to mind.

A 33, I see there's something more akin to painting or sculpting, while much simpler and not really taking any brain power.

I just find it relaxing.

That's fair enough.

Fair enough.

So, here they have attached a picture of their Lego wall, and you might think, oh, well, this is wholesome and everything.

But I have some issues with this picture.

Okay, let me look at this picture.

Let's hit it.

There's the Lego wall.

But if you cast your eyes at this, okay, this is very similar to what I have.

Yeah, I was going to say, I feel like I'm looking at Lewis's apartment right now.

Yeah, so imagine, if you will.

It's a couple of Ikea Calaxes.

A little square shelves, a series of square shelves.

It's like 18, 24, 24 little square shelves.

Six of them along in a row.

Yeah.

So they've used it for Lego.

They've also used it for DVDs.

Now, I had a look at this DVD collection, and I'm alarmed.

Genuinely alarmed.

First of all, they have every episode of Walker Texas Ranger on DVD, which is unacceptable.

Good choice.

I see some NCIS.

I I see some NCIS.

Yes, that's Chuck Norris.

NCIS is there as well, which is a terrible show.

Well, listen,

somebody's got to watch these.

These are highly rated shows.

Somebody's watching them.

Listen, these DVDs cost them a lot 20 years ago.

Jeff Dunham.

And they can't bring themselves to throw them out.

He's the puppeteer who has the little puppet.

I kill you.

He's awful.

He's one of the most successful comedians of all time.

Home improvement the entire run.

Fun, full house.

Yeah.

or the Gilmore girls.

Never seen it.

There was something else I found really objectionable in their collection.

Allie McBeal.

No, I don't see Ali McBeal.

They've got all the Disney stuff appears to be on BS.

Castle.

Yes, Castle is in there.

They got a Disney castle there, too.

They got

two Disney castles.

Is that a little one with the red spires of Disney?

There's no sorting system here at all.

It's just everywhere.

It's Ice Age next to My Big Fat Greek Life, next to Kingsman, Bull,

and then just nonsense.

Goldfinger Spectre, Angels and Demons, Da Vinci Code, Kug Fu Pat.

They've just got, it's, you know, you're trash.

It's the hus of 10 years ago, 10, 20 years ago.

Trash.

DVDs, this is upsettingly bad DVD.

And everybody loves Raymond box set.

Fucking.

But hang on.

This is what people used to have.

I'm sure we talk to anyone who's, you know, anywhere near their 30s, and they had a massive DVD collection at a period of time.

It's right.

It's the shows that they've been playing.

It's not about the DVD collection.

I have DVDs.

I'm saying it's the movies and shows that they've gone for.

I had

a problem.

I had season one of Lost on DVD, and it was like in a big box and everything.

Right.

Yeah, honestly, do you know what?

I fucking miss those times because at least there was a time, this blessed time, when you could watch shit on tele without ads.

You know, you could, you could record your TV and it would cut the ads out, or you could fast forward through the ads depends where you live and now i pay for like seven subscriptions like give me you know i'd love to have a dvd with a whole season stuff on it you know instead of having to get interrupted i watched um i watched i watched i watched hot fuzz the other the other week because my partner hadn't seen it and um it was on amazon prime and i i was conscious she wished that she could go back to the point where she hadn't seen it again sorry for the interruption here's a one-minute ad in the middle of the movie like multiple times

I'm paying

on Amazon.

Oh,

yeah.

I'm paying for that.

So, the thing with, isn't that the thing with Prime now?

They want you to pay more and be like, oh, I'll pay Prime Prime Plus, like Super Prime.

Prime Super Prime.

But also, I've got my brother's Disney Plus account and we both share it.

And he shares my Netflix, right?

I want to admit to that.

And

he has downgraded his one to the ad-paid version.

I'm still paying.

I'm saying I'm still paying the full price for the Netflix one.

I'm not paying the, you know, I haven't downgraded.

He's enjoying Netflix ad feed, whereas I have to watch his Disney Plus with ads.

What are you guys watching on Disney Plus?

Come on, brother.

I was watching the...

Well, I think there was a few things I was watching.

I was halfway through a couple of things.

He was watching the live-action Cinerello.

Some of the Star Wars stuff.

But once I started

ads on it, I just come back to it.

Herbie gets all fucked up.

Was I watching what we do in the shadows of some of the other things?

Oh, you're doing it.

So there's a new season of that.

Oh, yeah.

I can't remember.

I don't even know if it's on Disney Plus.

I haven't.

I'm sure that's on iPlayer.

I'm pretty sure.

I also had

a Plex account I was using that somewhere.

Oh my god, I used to have

a Plex account.

I've still got the thing downstairs.

Like it's a box.

It's just a big, basically all the Plex is a huge hard drive with a little miniature front end.

Like a little, I think it's a little Linux front end or something.

And you connect and then you can play from the Plex directly to your tele.

Yeah.

You can share your your library as well, which is, I think, the big, the big one for players.

This was before there were all these streaming services.

Piracy is never

in a better place, guys.

If you're interested in sailing the high seas

in the golden age, yeah, it's alive and well.

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It's harder to play games, pirated games, though, right?

Like, because a lot of games are online now, or like, yeah, they're like service games that are harder to get working.

But yeah,

Oh, well, here's a new topic: front versus back of penis debate solved.

Oh, God.

That sounds like a headline in the New York Times.

This again.

I wanted to give you a quick email to clear up the front versus back of penis debate.

I'm glad it's solved, at least.

It's solved now by a doctor.

I'm a doctor in South Wales, and in medical school, we had to learn about the male anatomical position.

This is a biological man standing with his palms facing forwards with an erect penis, all caps, not flaccid all caps.

Therefore, to settle the debate once and for all, the back or dorsum of the penis is the side facing you when the penis is erect.

The front or ventral side is the one facing away from you when the penis is erect.

Hope this clears matters up.

From anonymous brackets, I have a tiny penis.

Thank you, Anonymous.

Clear as day.

Thank you very much, kind sir.

Doctor.

Thank you very much, Doctor.

We can finally put this one to bed.

Indeed.

We solved another one, guys.

That's good.

That's really good.

Okay.

No more comments on that one.

Okay.

This is from an estate agent emailing in because we've been having a pop at them.

So this is.

I don't want to hear it.

Is it?

You don't want to hear it.

I don't want to.

Joe, go on.

Go for it.

You should.

They're not all bad.

I'm sure.

Go on.

I think you're about to realize how bad they actually are.

He says, now, the slander that goes on with estate agencies.

I've been a letting agent for around 13 years.

Not the same.

And moved in doing estate agency in the the past few years.

And I'd like to point out that most of your hatred would be pushed more towards English estate agencies, where dodgy practices seem to be far more commonplace.

In Scotland, you have no risk of gazumping.

And from what I've gathered, we seem to be a good bit better up here.

But that said, we're still not popular people.

So the estate agents, this lad's from the northeast of Scotland.

Yeah.

He is claiming that it's English estate agents are the problem and that your Scotch Scotch estate agent

is is is uh innocent uh in fact well i think it there's probably i mean england's a bigger place and also there's uh because it's a bigger place there's probably um more areas where the the particularly bad ones would operate right like very affluent neighborhoods and stuff like that.

I mean, honestly, I'm not saying Scotland has none of those.

I'm sure they have tons, but I think probably England being a bigger place has more.

And then you can have a lot of people.

Also, we have houses.

Scottish people live in little holes in the ground, as far as I'm aware.

I didn't think they had developed housing.

I thought they lived at the top of Bob Nevis.

Bob Nevis.

Yeah.

His brother is Ben Nevis.

No, that's how I say this to Ravs all the time.

I call him Bob Nevis.

I did a quiz and I thought, I didn't, I'd never even heard of Ben Nevis.

And

it said something like, what is this?

And one of the options was Bob.

And I randomly guessed Bob.

And I think Ravis is in my chat at the time.

And I could feel him dying inside.

Oh, my God.

So I say it all the time, just to sort of remind him, you know, like a knowing nod, like, sorry.

Yeah.

Yeah.

All right.

This one is from Daniel.

All of this fretting about whether or not you're being taken in by an urban legend sounds awfully similar to your other disclaimer.

We may have spoken about this before.

For your consideration, may I offer, we may have been deceived by this before.

What?

Yeah, we could just say now we may have been deceived by this before, but we're going to read this story.

So, yeah, we can.

I like that.

I do like that.

Okay.

Let's get like a.

If we, the thing is, where does it end?

You know, if we put like a two-minute-long disclaimer on the front of every podcast, maybe that's the

answer.

Yeah.

Okay.

Let's start compiling it.

Yeah, well, that's, well, we'll record a disclaimer that we could put at the start of the podcast.

We'll get somebody who can do the really fast reading to read it as well.

We could read it and just speed it up.

So, what would our disclaimer be?

Um, um, okay, we're old.

Warning.

This podcast, this podcast features three old men, very contradictory,

three over 40-year-old critical men.

Yeah, contradictory, hypocritical.

We're contradictory, where we're out of touch, yeah, right, and we're also we live a we live in a in a kind of jaded existence.

We don't go outside very much

and are scared of the rapid change of society.

Yep.

I feel like we get our news primarily from Reddit.

Yes.

Probably.

And the BBC also.

Question time.

We're not question time.

We're not trained in anything like this as well.

I'm a scientist by trade.

You know, Sips is a programmer and you're

various things p flex unemployed and unemployed

you're yeah and we're we're internet idiots and for a long time we've spent too long playing video we're man children as well write that down um we we have we have we play video games all day for a living um we are forgetful wait what was the other one you said lay down it was like we're man children man children

we're deeply forgetful like the other day i saw a little thing on reddit which said do you remember going joining lucky blocks p flax no i have no memory of it and apparently you did you appeared in a minecraft video with us doing lucky blocks and which i that i had completely forgot that entire series do you know i mean i can't remember a single thing that happened in any of those things and honestly watching hot fuzz the other day i couldn't remember the plot really and i played the for the brand deal the other day i played funko fusion the video game what's that um well i say the other day that was months ago

it was funky Fusion, the video game.

The video game, which was basically, they used, they had like four

IPs in there.

One of them was Hot Fuzz, which they obviously bought for nothing.

We might have even talked about this before.

And if we have, sorry.

The other one was Battlestar Galactica, but not the new Battlestar Galactica.

The one from the 80s.

The other two were like...

So, I think it was Jurassic World, very specifically, Jurassic World, and The Thing.

I love the thing.

I know, but you know, these are kind of odd.

And Masters of the Universe was the other one they had.

But not, again, not the new one.

Yeah.

And so it was kind of like these odd

IPs that were obviously available.

And they made a little Lego style game.

I guess it's that's the idea to have.

It's kind of like, oh, we're going to make Lego hot fires, but it's Defunco Hot Fars and Lego, Master of the Universe, and Lego, Battle Sugalaction.

And each of them have their own little, it's basically the movie, the video game.

And you go around the town and you do everything that happened in the movie.

It's all very,

it's like, it's like you can imagine the poor guys who are doing it have put are putting no passion in whatsoever, they're just getting it done.

It's a job to them, right?

There's no, there's no, it's, it's, they've obviously had fun when they made it, but it's not like, and they're happy for a job that isn't, you know, coding, I don't know, some, you know, gambling app or whatever the fuck is worse.

You know, at least you get to mess around in a world which is kind of half fun.

But I just, it just didn't feel to feel good.

Um, and I, and I, and I've seen, I feel like I've seen the movie multiple times.

I played that game and I watched Hot Fuzz the other day, and I couldn't really remember it.

That's where we are in life.

We are at a point in life where you two are now not listening to me.

Okay, write that down.

I'm not, yes.

We don't listen to each other.

Yeah, write that down in the disclaimer.

If you're right, I have not listened to each other.

You lost me.

You lost.

I honestly, I didn't even understand what your point was.

Yeah.

My point was that we have, I've forgotten what I thought it would be rude to interrupt.

I forgot if you, whether or not you even had a point to begin with or not.

I think if you are a listener and you've listened back to podcasts, you will notice us saying the same thing, making the same anecdote as if we're telling it for the first time, right?

But we have no recollection of that.

It's frightening actually.

And I am honestly a little bit worried that

I'm going senile

with how much

my brain is eroding.

Well, let me read what I've got.

Have you tried to do some brain exercises?

Doctor

Dr.

Spatso's brain training or whatever on the Nintendo DS?

Dr.

Spatso?

What was his name again?

Dr.

Spatso.

Yeah, it's some Japanese guy.

What was the name of that?

I don't know, but I love Dr.

Spatzo.

Someone's brain training.

Do you remember Dr.

Spatso?

Doctor.

By Creative Labs?

You used to be able to get a sound blaster, sound card,

and it came with the software called Dr.

Spatso.

No, it didn't.

It did, yeah.

It was Dr.

Kawashima's brain training.

Dr.

Kawashima.

That was a big.

That was a thing.

Okay, but look.

Okay, here.

Let me find Dr.

Spatso for you.

It was the first ever text-to-speech.

I'm sure it was.

Oh, okay.

Dr.

Spatzo.

There you go.

Dr.

Spatzo come in.

Oh, my God.

He looks hilarious.

Dr.

Spatso by Creative Labs.

Please enter the lights.

He looks like Einstein.

And then as you're entering your name, it's like,

hello, Chris.

I am Dr.

Spatso.

It was really good.

It was actually good.

I'm here to help you.

Yeah, it was an old DOS thing.

If you had a sound blaster, it came with

the software drivers and stuff.

Oh, there you go.

You can use it.

There's probably, yeah, I'm sure there's like a website where you could use it.

But yeah, it was hilarious.

Here's our

preamble warning uh that i've come up with uh warning this podcast features three contradictory hypocritical and out-of-touch middle-aged men they are jaded don't go outside much and fear the rapid change of society and young people their only source of news is reddit question time and the apprentice all three are internet idiots and spend too long playing video games all day for a living man children talking rubbish and being deeply forgetful is what you will get here we don't listen to each other and you shouldn't either we don't remember anything we have ever said and take no responsibility for any of it we are all going senile.

Enjoy the podcast.

Yeah.

Okay.

Paste that in.

We got to get that.

We have to get this edited like properly as well.

You need that new, you need like that really ominous like

music.

And then you have to do like the really

warning.

This podcast features three contradictions.

With the

in the background the whole time.

That would be amazing.

Let's do that.

Okay.

If you can, yeah, I think you can work on that.

And because there's a few more things you can probably add to it.

But that is

the definite

gist of it.

Yeah.

I'll try and do something for that.

Yeah.

Okay.

Thank you.

Thanks.

Thank you so much.

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This is a good email from Please Keep Me Anonymous.

So, longtime fan here, you guys talked about Nokia in episode 311.

I thought you might be interested in a little summary of what's happened with them.

There is obviously a lot more detail and nuance that I, more than I have written here.

So, sorry in advance if you get further emails on this.

My source is being Finnish and having gone to university for finance.

Right.

So, a little bit of background.

Some fun facts about Nokia.

The Finnish finance expert, or certainly trained,

is giving us information about Nokia.

See, this is literally like watching a film with old people where they're like, wait, no, pause it.

Who's that guy again?

What's his job?

Who's she?

You know, like that.

Are you guys there?

Yeah.

Yes.

Some fun facts about Nokia.

Are you there?

The company is over 150 years old.

Fuck me.

And was originally a pulp mill and rubber products manufacturer.

They are famous for their rubber boots.

The rubber boot company still exists separately and makes pretty good boots that are iconic in Finland.

You know how to say rubber in French?

Rubert.

Cauchou.

That's French.

That's French.

Because I guess, yeah.

At the height of the Nokia game, the company contributed to a whopping 4% of Finnish...

Finnish GDP and 70% of the stock market value, which was just absurd.

Nokia had something like 50% market share in the mobile phone market in 2007, dropping to just 3% over the following five years.

Yeah, wow.

So they went from having half the market to 3% of the market.

Wow.

Nokia is a classic case study of what can go wrong in strategy and corporate culture and how they lost this massive market share.

There is no single reason, but a number of them.

Here are a few.

In the early 2000s, a new CEO reorganized leadership into a matrix structure.

Probably had seen the movie The Matrix and got excited about it, leading to a decentralized incentives and different priorities between teams, basically leading to teams competing for resources and working on a bunch of different initiatives instead of a cohesive strategy.

Key staff members, people who basically created the success of Nokia, were pretty unhappy with these changes and decided to leave the company.

Nokia doubled down on its Symbian OS, which was heavy and clunky to use and develop compared to the iOS and Android systems.

By about 2009, Nokia was using 57 different and incompatible versions of their OS and it was becoming very clear that Symbian could not compete.

It's a shame they didn't jump on the Android train.

Nokia massively underestimated the success of Apple and Samsung, thinking that people would want to hang on to physical keyboards and that touchscreens were just a fad.

There is a famous story, which I'm paraphrasing here, from a Nokia engineer who took an iPhone to test and research at home.

He gave it to his kid, who figured it out immediately and just couldn't keep his hands off it, wanted to keep playing with it over and over again.

The engineer said that that was the moment he knew Nokia had lost.

Problems in the corporate culture as well.

Middle management in Nokia were scared scared to tell the truth to higher-ups due to a culture of fear and concerns about losing their jobs.

And, you know, so they would sort of give them

duff information that made out things were going better than they were and stuff like that.

Right, right.

So yeah, the Nokia Design Archive was opened to the public in January 2025 and contains a presentation from the day after the iPhone was announced in 2007, in 2007, titled Apple iPhone Was Launched.

Yes, it is iPhone.

The presentation is a serious warning about Apple becoming a serious competitor, but was not taken seriously by management.

So, yeah, interesting.

That is interesting.

Yeah.

I remember Nokia

and Sony Erickson's, remember?

Yeah.

Those were like the two big phones.

I mean, everybody had a Nokia.

You know what I mean?

It's like it was just every fucking wear.

Yeah.

And it is so interesting.

It's a fucking ringtone as well.

Yeah.

I think the new Nokia is going to be Tesla.

You're going to be what?

It's going to be Tesla.

I think Tesla.

They're going to make friends.

I think they're going to turn into, they're going to turn from, I mean, they don't have wooden.

What the fuck?

I think they're...

No, I think they're going to collapse.

I think that

they are not...

No one wants to drive that stupid cyber truck.

The reputation is terrible.

Like, no one...

It used to be cool, right?

The reason people like Apple shit is because it's cool.

And that hasn't changed in 20 years, right?

All these trendy cunts with their iMacs seen in cafes.

Man,

I saw a guy sitting in a cafe the other day with like with beer in a wine glass, you know, like you see that sometimes.

He had like a wine glass with like some, like a really nice looking beer in it.

It's whatever it's called.

He was wearing chinos and like a checkered shirt.

He was bald.

He had glasses on.

You know, he really looked like he was the owner of a company or worked in an office or something.

What a cunt.

Walked by him.

Didn't really think anything of it.

Didn't even look to see what was on his screen or whatever.

You know, I was with my son and my son was like, I think that guy's playing World of Warcraft.

And I turned around and I was like, nah, he doesn't look like he's playing World of Warcraft.

I couldn't see the screen from where we were.

I was like, I'll be able to tell you immediately if we walk by and I take a look at his screen if he is or not, because all the visuals of that game are like burned into my brain.

Oh, yeah.

And he's like, okay, fine.

So we left.

Glanced over.

Fucking guy was just on the auction house in Stormwind, like drinking a beer in a cafe.

He's like doing his, he's doing his like.

I was just saying, I just said to myself, I was like, yeah, he's playing wow.

I know exactly where he is, and I know exactly what he's doing as well.

Wow, that's so funny.

In like a second glance, that's so great.

So, I mean,

I think that

what we were saying just before,

this is why we're so forgetful.

What was I going to say?

We were reading emails.

Where were we going to go to this story?

What?

I was going to tell you guys the plane that you could hear going over that was very loud.

Yeah.

Guess where that was going?

Tenerife.

No?

Skyscanner.

Very far away.

Japan.

Oh, you're getting in towards the right kind of region.

Really?

Singapore.

No, but close.

Hong Kong.

The Philippines.

Kuala Lumpur.

Oh, no.

How do you know?

Did it say on the plane?

No, I just called out to the pilot.

Oh, nice.

Okay.

No.

There's a flight radar.

Flight radar 24.

So I'll sit there watching it and I'll be like, oh, a big boy's about to come over and I'll look out and I'll see it.

And I'm watching it on the screen at the same time.

That is the most.

Do you do that thing or do you turn over to your wife and you say, hear that one?

It's on its way to Japan.

Yes.

All right for some, eh?

Do you do that?

Listen to this next one's going to be coming over.

I want to see when you guys can hear it.

Okay, I can probably tell you where it's heading just based off the sound.

Okay, it's going to be coming right over my house in a second.

It's getting close.

Okay, so remember you have a voice.

I'm going to have to talk a little bit so you guys can hear it in the back.

I can hear it enough.

Can you hear that?

Yeah, I know where that one's going.

That one's landing.

This one is not landing.

It is taking off.

That is a landing.

I can assure you it's taking off.

It is heading away from the airport.

It is taking off.

I guarantee you.

If it's heading away from the airport, then that plane is crashing.

It's landing.

It's not.

I just saw it on the runway take off.

It is definitely headed in the right direction.

You can see the runway from your house.

No,

on the app, you bozo.

There's a fucking runway.

Man.

And you follow the planes down the runway.

I thought you had a good view of the runway from your house.

No, I don't want to be that close to Heathrow.

Where do you think this is going then?

Give us a clue.

It's going to take them.

I'm guessing it's going east, right?

Because that's flies, Yorkashore east.

Twickenham's east.

It's going to take them five and a half hours.

Five and a half hours.

Later in the day, Tenerife stuff will fly west.

Tenerife is like four hours.

So, further than Tenerife.

It sounded like a big plane.

I'm going to say that that bad boy is going to Dubai.

Circle

on the

Boeing 777-769.

No.

What's that?

What's the Saudi capital called?

Riyadh.

No.

Qatar.

No.

Bahrain.

No.

This is the best thing we've ever done on this podcast, by the way.

It's going to be a good one.

It's no.

A war was fought over this area.

Kuwait.

Yes.

Nice.

Next.

This is a much smaller plane.

I love this, by the way.

This is the best.

This is literally the best thing I've ever done on this.

I love this.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, listen, listen.

See, if you can hear it,

exactly.

That's what Southwest London is like, but it's like this here.

Listen, Listen, can you hear that very high-pitched coming over?

Oh, that's a that's a that's a big that's a that's an a3

a bit Airbus 320 A320.

That is an A320 because you're now on flight radar, aren't you?

Yes, I'm not sure.

You're on a B.

You are so cheating.

I would never cheat, by the way, at this.

I know, I know.

I'm not looking, I'm not going to tell Sips.

I'm not telling you.

None of them are landing.

No one's going to London Heathrow.

None of them are landing.

They're all taking off.

I think they all land from the other side, don't they?

So they all take off over London, I guess.

And land.

They land.

So what happens is sometimes, I think, I don't know.

I think it might be down to prevailing winds and stuff like that.

Yeah.

Sometimes we're on the

take-off route and it's just they just go over

us all day long.

Yeah.

And other times I look out of my window.

to the west and I just see a line of them coming in to land.

So I can see them lined up, especially at night.

If I'm looking, I guess it's north actually, I can look that way and see a line of planes coming into land, like stacked up all in a row, all just coming down through the exact same sort of like tunnel of, you know, they're all just being funneled through like

yeah.

But today is a takeoff day for whatever reason.

Well, this is one of the main reasons that Concorde was considered to be stopped because it was like so fucking loud.

Oh, no, it was.

And when I'd went to Sonic Booms, we'd hear them here.

Yeah, it was crazy.

So they wouldn't do sonic booms over the city.

No.

They'd have to get to a certain point.

But as it got closer to somewhere like Jersey, yeah, you'd fucking hit it.

Yeah.

At the same time, every night you'd hear boom boom, boom, boom.

It was awesome, actually.

It was really amazing.

So my

family lived in Hampton.

This is Mrs.

F's side of things.

And when I lived, I lived with them for a year in the 90s because I was working up in London for my industrial placement year.

And Concorde would take off and it flew directly over their house.

And I'm not kidding, every single window and every glass and everything would shake and rattle like an earthquake when it went over.

No other planes would do that.

And the first time it happened, I thought a fucking earthquake would hit happen.

But no, it was just

the power of that plane.

It's just crazy.

Two hours

from London to New York.

I mean, that is insane.

Wait, London to New York, two hours?

Wasn't it?

Maybe I'm remembering wrong, but yeah, I think it was like pretty quick.

Phil Collins famously took it during live aid because he played it at Wembley and then flew to New York to play live there as well.

And they were like, that's nuts.

Yeah.

Philadelphia Collins himself.

Fucking hell.

Philadelphia Collins.

Yeah.

Oh, here's a here's a plane headed to Frankfurt.

It's taking off now.

Not a big plane.

That's only.

You ever go down to Heathrow and just do a bit of plane spotting?

Get your lawn chair out and your binoculars and your flight flight tracker and stuff?

No, no.

God, no.

It's tempting though.

I'm disappointed.

This is what's the deal with Peru.

Hey guys, my name is Alan and I'm an OG tiny penis haver as a 22-year-old electrical engineering student in LA.

Right.

But I lived in Peru till I was 18.

Okay.

I've been listening through the podcast from the start recently and I've noticed the amount of times Peru is mentioned multiple times by you guys, despite the absolute lack of interaction with Latinos you guys probably have had.

Yeah.

I'd like to address all of the misconceptions about the country I've heard from you guys and let the listeners know we're not just munching on guinea pigs while petting our llamas.

And snoring Peruvian cocaine as well.

Yeah.

You can summarize my points to Lewis and Sips as I wouldn't want to take up too much of your time.

Don't you worry about that.

Well, look, I think for us,

as Britons, Peru has a kind of the connotation of being where Paddington is from.

It's almost like saying, yeah, it's like where Paddington's going, but also, in a sense, it's almost like saying Tim Buck II or something.

It's like, oh, send him to Peru.

Yeah, Paddington.

Yeah.

It's kind of like, it's almost synonymous with the idea of somewhere far away.

Yeah.

And so I think it's in the modern parlance as a thing where we're like, you know, I'm going to fuck off to Peru or whatever.

But it's also seen, I guess, as a sort of a destination for trendy gap year people to as like an

odd

location to go right um so i think it it i think it probably does get more mentions than bolivia right or whatever and it's it's kind of fun to say as well

right bolivia um bolivia whereas you know i haven't got anything interesting to say about paraguay to be honest unless it's the world cup going on and they happen to have made it through or something yeah yeah sure um yeah exactly but peru i think it does get brought up more than the other South American places.

I feel like the less you hear about a country, the better, really.

It normally means that,

things are just ticking over, hopefully nicely, you know?

Yeah.

No drama.

Let's run through these points.

It'd be nice to hear occasionally from another country that they've

discovered something amazing or invented something amazing or started doing something differently or whatever.

The news cycle is just so fucking awful nowadays.

It's unwatchable.

It's just...

All right, well, maybe this will cheer you up.

These are some fun facts about Peru.

Firstly, Mañana is not money, as Sips thought.

No, I know.

It's a long-standing joke.

I used to say it to a guy that I used to work with who

he was one of those guys that no matter how many times you said it, he would correct you every single time and get annoyed.

So I just kept saying it all the time.

Sorry.

Mañana.

Give me some mañana.

Give me some mañana.

It's funny.

It's a funny.

Tomorrow.

Tomorrow.

Lewis mentioned being sacrificed by the Mayans in Peru once.

The Mayans were Peruvian.

You were out by about 3,000 kilometers.

We have the Incas, which you probably heard of.

But they gained power by beating the shit out of the neighboring tribes from Cuzco and then assimilating their culture and religion to a war.

Where is where is Titicaca?

Does that come anywhere close to

some TP from the Boy?

Lake Titicaca.

Yeah, it's

in South America somewhere.

It says it is actually in Peru.

It's in Peru.

It's also half Peru.

It straddles.

There you go.

It straddles the border.

There's a place called Copacabana as well.

Yeah,

Copacabana.

Copacabana.

Actually, I think

it's a good boat.

Yeah.

That's no, Titicaca is one of

the fetishes in 50 Shades of Grey.

Oh,

nice, nice.

All right.

Peru is very environmentally diverse, with three big regions being the coast, the Andes mountain range, and the Amazon rainforest.

The cultures are starkly different in these three places and even speak completely different native languages.

Although, I'm going to mispronounce his Quechua got pretty far given that it was the Incan language.

Nice.

The coast

is the more metropolitan region with all our big cities, and that's where I grew up.

We do eat guinea pigs, though it's more of a once-in-a-while thing.

And yes, it's presented to you whole, looking like a rat that fell into a pot of oil when you weren't looking.

There's always this shit that's local like fucking eating jellied eels in England or whatever.

Do you know what I mean?

There's always some fucking English thing, though.

Well, it's a cultural

London, is it?

But

there's always this weird fucking niche, like

traditional food that some people still eat.

And you're,

you know, and something there'll be some old man who's like, oh, you fucking love eating guinea pigs.

You ain't tried a guinea pig.

Oh, fucking, I ate 10 of them a week.

You know, they're already small.

It's, it's just, it's the same thing.

Somebody went on MasterChef and prepared that.

Do you think that they're guy's going gonna be a little bit more like a

joke?

Fucking Mary Berry would be swallowing them eels, wouldn't she?

Fucking loving that.

No, the guinea pig.

The guinea pig.

They're like

a domesticated delight over here.

I think that there would be an outprise.

Alan says, I never liked it, but it doesn't taste like weird chicken.

I'd say it's more similar to rabbit, but rattier.

Right.

To add to fucked up animal eating, the town of Chincha is known for eating cats.

Well, so is that place in the U.S., u.s apparently what was the place that they were saying they're eating cats and and dogs oh yeah they're eating cats they're eating pets they're a terrible thing the people from haiti come over here to eat our cats

that's all they're over for yeah i'm here how long are you here for sir uh just a week what are you planning on

eating as many cats as i can

i'm on a cat

come on through it's like that woman on tinder isn't it it's like they they that's their weird thing.

They've got to eat cats.

Like, it's, they can't control themselves.

Yeah.

Do you know what I mean?

It's like that.

It's like a cat.

It's a woman who wants to shove a dude's head in her closet.

Maybe it's like, maybe that's one of the 50 shades.

I have to eat a fucking cat.

I'm going to lose it.

You know, like it's maybe they have to.

It just builds up over time.

This, they just have to eat one cat.

Like when Spock had Ponfar, which is the Vulcan mating cycle.

Every seven years.

It gets incredibly horny.

It gets so fucking horny so what was jordy laforge's uh mating cycle then every episode because that guy was like the biggest horn dog on the on the internet

jordie la forge don't mind him it's his mating cycle again

well no but he didn't he fall in love with jordy fell in love with

an ai girlfriend no he fell in love with deanna troy and she did not reciprocate and then he was caught

trying to get jiggy with her in the holo deck, if you remember.

Yes, that's pretty much the

he made a hologram hologram version of this.

Yes, and she walked in and she's like, Oh my God, Jordy, what are you doing?

Thursday's butt stuff.

He was jerking off his heart.

He was ahead of his time.

Honestly, with these AO girlfriends, he had, there was an episode where he

had to solve some problem with the warp engine, right?

And so he got this, he got a famous scientist, a famous scientist, put your dick in it, Jordy.

We gotta move.

Exactly.

Oh, God, it was frightening.

The only way we can fix it is if you have sex with this hologram.

Well, somebody's gonna do it.

That's why he's the best goddamn engineer in stuff.

All right.

So here are the fun facts.

Quick fun facts.

We're so corrupt, we went through six presidents in the last eight years.

One of them only lasted five days.

I'll be honest with you, I think we're in pretty much the same boat.

Yeah, absolutely.

That sounds like the UK.

Yeah.

Llamas are cool, but no one talks about alpacas and vicuñas, which are very similar and are worked just as hard.

Which I like, we like,

we're an alpaca enjoying family over here.

I've never heard of a vicuna, though.

No, me neither.

We on the coast love eating cow hearts on skewers.

We call it anti-chuchos.

Right.

We almost paid off our entire national debt with guano, which is bat poop and burger.

Guano?

We love beef with Chileans and Ecuadorians starting from losing to them in wars we started oh we have beef with chileans and ecuadorians yeah because they had wars and peru lost those wars but they don't like each other and they love dota it's true they really do they do love dota so that is why we that's why there's because i remember yeah there's always some peru

no that's why

thing though the nas the nas complain about the peruvians like eu complains about russians exactly right yeah exactly right yeah yeah but um generally all of the south american pros most of them are peruvian like that's their game yeah interesting I feel like a lot of these

South American countries, their borders are not concrete walls.

They're just kind of some

inaccessible region.

Yeah, right.

Well, I mean, I've played a lot of Victoria 3 recently, and

I can definitely confirm that.

There is a lot of borders.

Like, borders seem to be mountain ranges and big, impassable parts of the Amazon.

Did we talk about the Darien Gap?

I can't remember.

Like on this podcast.

You guys know about that, right?

It's the bit in.

Oh, wait, I know what it is.

It's there's a lot of places in Africa that are impassable as well.

It's when there's a gap between a woman's thighs.

She's slim enough that her thighs don't touch when she's.

No, they're thinking of Darren.

Darren's gap.

Darren's gap.

It's the area in Panama where the...

Because there's not a road that runs the entire way from North to South America.

And that's honestly kind of amazing.

um it's a fucking nightmare building in there i mean you'd have to go through the bloody amazon basically yes um and and lots of people do every

at one point they were like cutting it down a lot has that stopped or is that still going

of course they're still doing it jesus christ

more than ever dude they're not they're not sort of doing it in a straight line though they should it would make more sense to just get a straight line in there get a nice big highway i mean you know what they could do is build this highway right through the middle but then have it all underground, just the longest tunnel ever.

And there's no air down there, and

it's a vacuum.

And everybody that goes in there dies.

Yeah.

Nice idea.

Or they're in a pod of some kind.

Some sort of safety pod.

Some kind of safety pod.

God, imagine getting stuck down there in a pod.

Fuck.

Oof.

In the middle of the Amazonian jungle with no power.

100 meters below the ground.

It'd be awful.

Hi, boys.

I love the podcast.

I've discovered on the BBFC, that's a British Board of Film Classification website, that some more popular TV shows have a rating for each individual episode.

Interesting.

I am on the hunt for the show with the widest range of ratings.

For example,

Breaking Bad, which is overall an 18, has a pretty even mix of 15s and 18s, and even has two episodes rated 12.

Wow.

So far, the show I've found with the widest range of ratings is Friends.

Some episodes are a you, some of them are 15.

I am determined to find a show with all age ratings from you to 18.

As an extra thing about age ratings, if you're interested, just wanted to point out how terrible Peggy are at ratings.

Everything is a 16 or an 18.

Yeah, it's always 16 or 18, which is a nightmare for me as a kid, as I had parents who were not strict at all, but took those ratings as gospel.

I wasn't allowed to play some Spider-Man games or even Castle Crashers.

Mass Effect is rated a 12 by the BBFC, but an 18 by Peggy.

Well, this has been actually really interesting lately because Bellatro was rated 18.

Why, Miss?

Oh, because it's given a lot.

Because it's based on poker, yeah.

And the, in fact, but in opposition to that, games that are violent with loot boxes in, like, you know, are actually having gambling, like Call of Duty and stuff, were rated like 12.

Yeah.

You know, and so it's, it's, it was kind of this huge thing.

And Bellatro, the guy who the dev was quite vocal about how ridiculous it was.

And it was quite annoying because it meant that the game was restricted on certain platforms and things like this, right?

Because people do care about it.

And it was causing some problems.

And so he campaigned to get it changed.

And eventually they did change it wow um but it took almost a year or more and and it is because their rating system is very arbitrary yeah and and quite frankly are just out of touch with the reality but it it's again it's it's the gambling is how you should present it right like like for example the there's the pokemon trading card game appropriate which is i love that one is gambling it's gambling i've got multiple cards

on all my devices it's one of the most popular apps in the world aimed at kids.

And, you know, it's

anyway, we've been through it before.

Here's an update.

This is an update email that Lucas sent.

I found a show that ranges from U to 18.

Right.

And it is, it's quite a surprising result.

Stargate SG1.

Wow.

Okay.

The range of ratings on that show, in one series alone, there are 18s, U's, PGs, and 12s.

I think it's because there's a full frontal nudity in the first episode.

Is there?

Well, thank you, Lucas.

Interesting, apparently.

Good to know.

I'm going to watch that.

The first episode of Stargate SG-1.

Stargate Stargate 1.

Stargate SG-1.

The SGA.

The SG stands for Stargate in that, by the way.

Yeah, I know.

This is really interesting, this show, actually, because I thought

when I first heard this guy talking about it, I thought he meant like on Rating Graph, which is the website that shows like IMDB ratings per episode per season.

And so when you look at Stargate SG-1, again, it has an incredibly wide range of ratings, like as low as like a 5.9 and as high as a 9.5, you know, which is surprising, right?

To see how

such a wide range, you tend to see like a trend, okay, on rating graph.

Like, or

it just flags when something major has happened to the show, like with the office US, right?

When Michael leaves, the show changes, or you can see The Simpsons when it like stopped being good and it's never recovered.

Do you know what I mean?

Um, and stuff like that.

It's just kind of fascinating to see these.

Um, I love rating graph as a website.

And it's got movie franchises in as well.

So you can see like the alien movies and stuff.

I use it all the time.

And I wonder what, I mean, obviously, The Simpsons would have an incredibly wide range.

It has as low as a four and as, again, as high as a 9.3.

Okay, not bad.

But like, I mean, it's been around for so long.

But it did have a golden age as well.

It's been around that long.

Oh, Game of Thrones is a great one to see on the rating graph, right?

Because it's like, it is un.

I'll show you.

Just

starts off like unbeatable unbeatable and then just tanks nearly it starts off like unbelievably high like yeah like 9.6 9.7 9.9 the first couple of seasons were fantastic though god they were so good and and and then it just like actually

just it's like

it's it's like it falls off a cliff like wily coyote style um it's astonishing but yeah it's like fun to get a picture of of of how how long to watch a show for um what's the the ratings graph like for the UK Apprentice?

Just like 20 seasons of it.

Yeah.

Oh my God.

I don't even know how you would even like.

Actually, that is a, I've got a link for you.

Here you go.

It's weird.

I imagine, again, it's based off user ratings, right?

Yeah.

So it's kind of all over the place.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah, it is really all over the place.

But I guess at the end of the day, it's very consistent.

Wow.

I think some seasons are better than others for sure, right?

It looks like

it went completely bananas.

season four episode seven in 2008 total votes nine average foul player foot

yeah i don't think there's a lot of range on this sort of stuff yeah all right so here's uh let's finish on this one um at some point uh can't remember when and i assume you don't either well done ed uh you mentioned weird jobs yeah and wanted to share with you mine most people don't consider journalism a weird job but that's because they forget that local papers still print.

I work for a local paper and news website in Cornwall, and my job is, let's just say, somewhat different to how I imagined it.

Instead of breaking Watergate 2, I found that my role is essentially to speak to the weird, the wonderful, the furious, and the fuming.

One such example was a man from Newquay, who claims to be the bastard son of John DeLorean, late founder of the DeLorean Car Company.

This guy, Ty DeLorean, has just recently lost a lawsuit for making his own DeLorean cars, which are just modded Reliant Robins.

One time he texted me.

I can't pay attention because that plane is

going to be taking off.

That one's taking off.

That one is on its way to

Egypt.

Hong Kong.

Fuck.

So one time he texted me something along the lines of, I don't suppose you'd be interested in a story about the Taliban wanting to buy my cars.

Suffice it to say, I've never mashed the call button on my phone quicker.

What ensued was a conversation about how the Taliban supposedly want to buy his DeLorean cars and that while the Home Office forbade it, something to do with the scuffle when they came to power, I suppose, he would consider it if they cleaned up their act a bit.

So

there is a link to this article,

which I have here.

That he wrote.

This is Ed's article

at Cornwall Live.

Son of DeLorean says.

Taliban wants to buy his cars.

Now, if you look, there is a picture of one of these modded while you're lying.

I see it.

And it's got the wing doors on, like a DeLorean.

If If you're listening to this and you're at the internet, just go just look.

Does that guy require the pimp cane to walk, or is it just like a showpiece?

I don't know.

I don't know, but he's quite a character.

So, yes, if you look at these cars, it is, they are literally modded Robin Reliance.

For those who don't know what a Robin Reliant is, it's a three-wheel car.

The reason they were popular is you only needed a motorcycle license to drive them.

You didn't need a full drive.

Is that the blue car that Mr.

Bean always crashes his mini into in

the Mr.

Bean series?

The Robin Reliant?

Probably.

My uncle had two because he didn't have a driving license.

He had a motorcycle license.

He was a motorcycle rider.

He never got a driving license.

The Robin Reliant, first of all, they were cheap as chips, but they were literally made of like fiberglass.

Yeah.

Like they weren't metal.

It was like a fiberglass frame on a trike.

Is that what they used to drive on Only Fools and Horses?

Trotters, Independent Traders?

I think it was Robin Reliant.

Yeah.

They were like the comedy car of the 70s and 80s because they were so cheap.

And if you went too fast around the corner, it would tip over.

The Taliban has been widely criticised around the world, centering on its poor record surrounding women's rights, ultra-conservative politics, and censoring of opposition.

Ty, however, said he'd consider taking them up on the offer.

In my ambition, which is sometimes bigger than reality, I'd like to see the vehicle as a peace symbol.

It could be used to negotiate with the Taliban and help get them to start dropping some of their hardline stances.

And if they were to do that, maybe I could sell some of these to them.

They're doing it.

They're doing anything bad, though.

They're doing anything bad.

I won't do a business with one of my cars.

Oh, my God.

There you go.

That's good.

They need their country rebuilding.

And the US and British have caused far more atrocities and deaths than the Taliban ever did.

Okay.

Wow, so this guy,

do you know what though?

I think this is like that scam that happened in North Korea where they got Sweden to send them 50 Volvos or whatever that they never paid for.

And they're still using them

nowadays.

You know, I think it's the new guy is like looking at getting some free cars for the Afghanistani, you know, leadership.

And I don't think he really did his research here, reaching out to the guy who mods

of these fucking Robin Reliance into DeLoreans, which is honestly insane that some this lunatic is

modding Robin Reliance into DeLoreans.

I

it blows my mind.

But God, God, good on him.

It's so funny.

Thanks for the story.

That's a really good one, Ed.

And good luck with your art.

Yeah, yeah.

Plane just went over, headed to Larnaca.

Do you know where that is?

Larnaca.

London.

Lanaka.

Is it Hawaii?

L-A-R-N-A-C-A.

No, I have no idea where that is.

Oh, nice.

Cypress.

Oh, nice.

Cypress.

Oh,

come on.

Oh,

what was I thinking of?

No, Lanniika or whatever.

Lani.

Make sounds.

Oh, maybe one of them will be correct.

Well, it's the

name of the name of the supercluster where we are in the Milky Way.

The Lannyakia.

We're not in the same cluster, are we?

I thought we were on our lonesome, way out at the end of a spiral arm.

You wish.

We're part of the Lanniaka galaxy.

Wait, wait, wait.

Do you mean our galaxy?

Or,

oh, yeah.

Well, you said the Milky Way.

Have you played down?

I'm saying in our galaxy, we're kind of which is our galaxy.

Our galaxy.

No, I understand that.

But the point is, you're saying the supercluster of other galaxies.

We're not in a supercluster within the Milky Way.

I'll send you a pick.

There you go.

Look at that.

It's

a cluster of galaxies.

Yeah, yeah, that's what it's saying.

So one of them is that's Lan Lan Laniake.

Lanikey.

It's not the same.

That's not where the planes go in.

Can I ask the question, please?

Yes.

When was the last time you played Stellaris Flex?

Not in a while.

Why?

I don't know.

I just haven't played it in years, and I just wanted to.

I played it last year.

I liked it last time I played it, but it's just been so fun.

Oh, it's quite fun.

Yeah.

No, it's really good.

It's still really, really good.

They put out a new DLC like last.

Yeah, I can't remember.

It was well received.

Unlike the fucking new Heart Surviving DLC.

Yeah, that seems to be getting shit on left, right, and center.

All right, listen.

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