Triforce #307: Not a Video Game Podcast

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Hello, everyone.

Welcome back to the Triforce.

Welcome back.

Sips?

Yeah,

I'm good.

Oh, man.

I think my computer is dying, though.

I think I have.

I have issues with my computer.

It is slowly dying.

We have issues with our

minds, our bodies,

our technology.

Yes.

We are truly aging.

I've grown a little bit of a beard this Jingle Jam and I hate everything about it.

I feel like it's making me look older because it's got a lot of grey in it.

I've seen a few comments from people on Jingle Jam saying, Lewis is getting old and it's making me feel old.

I don't like to talk about getting old, but it is like

a constant nagging annoyance.

Oldness.

You just feel like it.

Well, people were fighting it, though.

Like, I don't know if you saw Minnie Muka.

He had a hair transplant.

It was like a sponsored deal.

It was a sponsor deal.

Yeah, he had to go to Turkey or something for it, apparently.

He was paid.

Who's this?

Minnie.

Minnie Muka, the Liverpudlian lad who you've probably met.

Oh, he's a wincraft star.

He's really funny.

Nice guy.

He got paid.

He got paid to have a hair transplant.

But did he need one?

Not really, like, maybe a little bit.

Like,

I wouldn't do that.

You wouldn't do a hair transplant.

No, no, I wouldn't do that.

Like, a promotional thing.

No, that's so good.

What about getting your teeth done?

Would you have your teeth done in a promotional thing?

No.

No.

No.

Would you have any medical stuff done?

Would you have your

penis removed?

Again?

Would you have your penis removed and shoved up your ass as a promotion yes yeah how much are they paying me uh i don't know can they put it back the way it was afterwards what's the going rate like a laptop and uh fuck off

and some fucking magic the gathering cards i mean i i i don't know like it's not exactly that it's it's a cosmetic thing right um and i i think he's i you have to be confident enough to to do it in a i mean he put a whole vlog he hadn't put a vod out a vlog out for like two years and um and he put this this video of him go to turkey and honestly i thought it was hilarious i mean he's a really funny guy have you ever been to turkey before no i've not no me neither but you a lot of people were popping out there to have their teeth done yeah

or something done right well yeah but this this girl died they had an inquest into her she went out to turkey for a brazilian butt lift yes i you

died yeah they didn't do it right or yeah three days after the operation, they'd fucked it up.

She was really sick.

And the guy called the clinic and said, because they were like, if there's any change in your condition, give us a call and we'll come out.

She's basically feeling like shit.

She collapses.

They come out to look at her.

They didn't.

do anything.

They didn't even look at the part of her body where they'd had the operation.

They just sort of took her blood pressure and then she collapses again.

And they're just giving her slices of cucumber.

They're literally feeding her slices of cucumber rather than actually providing medical assistance.

Turns out they're not even qualified nurses.

They're just some people that work at the clinic.

She dies, and I'm like, no, I wouldn't go and do this cosmetic surgery tourism shit because no, well, I'm not suggesting you have a Brazilian buttliff.

No, but I don't want anything like that happening outside of, at least in the UK, I feel we have some system that I'm aware of, even though it may go wrong at times, that makes sure that you've got to be licensed and it's all overseen and blah, blah, blah.

But other countries, I don't know what their rules are.

I mean, there must be a reason it's going cheap out there.

So So, well, it's big business now, isn't it?

There's a lot, lots of people are getting stuff done.

Lots of people are getting uh touch-ups and but that attracts a certain kind of con man that I don't want to be involved with.

Thank you.

Oh, for sure.

Yeah, um, I think it's very seductive, the whole like idea that you can get it done on the cheap and have a holiday out of it.

And

there is like a turkey teeth kind of meme almost, right?

That's kind of this IT V2 look with the

ITV2 look.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It is definitely a style, right?

I saw a guy, what's his name?

Fuck, I can't remember his name now.

I think, is it like Joe, it's not Joey Essex, it's

sure, someone like that.

I think he was on The Only Way is Essex.

I've never watched the show before, so I'm not overly familiar with it, but this guy looks like he had a beard tattooed onto his face, amongst other things.

He's had his teeth done and everything.

I can't remember his name now, but

yeah,

the tattooed beard onto face is an interesting one for sure.

Yes, well, you can have a beard transplant as well.

You can actually have like a hair hair transplanted into your

beard.

Into your beard if you got get chips and stuff.

Which thickens it up, you know, and some people, some people want to, really want a beard.

And that's

a good way to do it.

I think you're right, P-Flex.

There's obviously different levels of this procedures and some of them are some of them, it depends on who you are, you know, and if you, if you, if, if you need them or not.

Um, but I think, like, I don't know, like, um,

it's, it's going to Turkey for it doesn't seem like do it do just doing medical stuff on the cheap is always like you're going yeah going away to have something done always feels like

a little bit risky just a gamble isn't it it's a bit of a gamble

like yeah I mean I'm not look I'm not saying that there aren't it you're gambling anytime you have something like that done and for anyone who wants to say, hey, well, there's plenty of cases where shit went bad over here, you're absolutely right.

But it's like saying that you bet on a nearly sure thing and it didn't come in versus slightly worse odds.

And when it comes to my health, I'll generally take the close to a sure thing as I can get rather than roll the dice on a gamble.

That's the way I see it.

Speaking of medical stuff, I had to go to AE yesterday.

Not to happen.

My son got absolutely smacked in the face with a plastic cricket bat at school.

Oof.

Oh, God.

A big, big bump

between his eyes.

He was just strolling by, and one of his friends was

getting ready to hit the ball or whatever they do in cricket.

He's already got your genes.

And now he's been hit in the head with a cricket bat.

I know, right in the face.

Yeah.

This is like...

Did they at least score a four or a six?

He said it was a pretty good,

hit after he sort of recovered, but luckily he's like, he didn't like blackout or anything like that.

I think it was all just.

Was it another kid that hit him?

Yeah, it was.

Yeah, it was one of his friends.

But like, it was, you know, he was just

a really

awful accident, you know?

Like, it wasn't.

So he's not going to.

They weren't aware of each other at all.

He made like a lifelong nemesis.

No, no, no.

Okay.

They're still going to be playing Fortnite together.

I think so.

Yeah.

I think there'll be lots of Fortnite.

Although, well, I played Fortnite with them a bit yesterday.

I was playing, they've got a new mode in Fortnite called Ballistic, which is basically Valorant or like CSGO inside Fortnite.

Okay.

It's like

they've got Fortnite's crazy now.

They have so many different games within the game, you know?

It's like you can do builds or no builds or there's like a music.

There's like a guitar hero version of the game.

There's like a, there's all these different games.

So they've released this one called Ballistic, which is 5v5.

I see so the strategy is because originally the strategy was let's put the epic game store up and then we'll sell all these kids to play Fortnite own only Fortnite all these other games But actually kids didn't want to play those games They just wanted to play more Fortnite and so now their strategy is to make games in Fortnite well, and it makes sense too because there's so much

A lot of people have spent a ton of money in Fortnite,

including my son, sadly, on skins and battle passes and all this stuff.

So all of these game modes within Fortnite, it's like, it's just basically like having, you know, new games all the time.

You know, they're just copying popular game modes or games or whatever.

And then, but you can still use all your cosmetics and your emotes.

And so there's like a Fortnite.

You can buy shoes in Fortnite now.

Like, forget skins.

You can just buy shoes.

What do you mean?

You can buy like Air Jordans and

for your car.

Well, that's a state of symbol.

That's a state of symbol in school.

And so kids want want it's like that.

Yeah, so it's like however many V-bucks it is for like

you having a Mercedes.

Yeah, you can mean you can just wear them with any skin or whatever, or there's probably some limitations, I guess.

But yeah, that's crazy.

So you can wear your cool trainers in like 5v5 or 200.

That's it.

So yeah.

Were you joining him and four of his three of his chums?

No, no,

it was just the two of us playing because he wanted to try it out.

He wasn't really sure what it was.

And

as soon as it started, it's like, oh,

seven rounds.

And I was like, fuck, this is is just Valorant.

And I said to him, before we start, I said, I'm just warning you, this is a very sweaty game mode.

You know, like, this is, it's not, people don't play this for fun.

People, you know, this is like, they take it very seriously.

He's like, no, come on.

What do you mean?

I got my emotes and stuff.

We got like two rounds in.

He's like, Dad, I want to quit.

I don't like this.

So he's playing Marvel Rivals today.

He's home from school and he's going to try rivals.

He's pretty excited.

That's fun.

so it's well, is that um that's the Overwatch hero shooter, but it's all Spider-Man and

it's free and it just came out.

Yeah, it's free.

It just came out.

Yeah, so so it should be not too sweaty.

Well, I mean, it's free.

If you want to buy skins, it's like 30 quid for a skin

Spider-Man's skin.

But yeah, I mean, otherwise it is free.

Yeah.

Well,

well, my goodness, that's

quite intentional.

My gorgeous

school for you.

Fortnite's over.

Yeah.

No, yeah.

So it's, there's always, there's always something threatening, you know?

Like, yeah.

And

you hear him, I mean, he's just turned 13.

His friends are all like 12, 13.

And the way they talk about stuff is so funny, you know.

Like, they'll be like, oh, my God,

I'm a Marvel Rivals main now.

Forget Fortnite.

I'm done.

Like, he hasn't even played the game.

He just likes,

he likes the concept art.

He's like, oh, my God, I'm going to play so much of this.

And his friends are like, oh, yeah, God, I can't believe we used to play play Fortnite.

Like, it just

came out.

Oh, no.

No, I'll be back on it tonight.

Like,

guaranteed, because

yeah, they just can't.

They can't stay away.

They just can't stay away.

Yeah.

It's too much.

Oh, my gosh.

It's too much.

It's too much.

It's too much investments.

It's too much FOMO.

Like, it's all of the addictive qualities.

They got them.

They figured it out.

How it changes your attention.

I mean, back in the day, I was like this.

I was super excited and hyped about any new thing that came out.

I couldn't weigh.

I was excited about it.

And now, like, we talk about something like Path of Exile 2 or whatever.

And Zilas is still like that childish level of excitement about it, like your son.

And he comes to me and I'm like, I don't know if I can be excited about it.

It's owned by a big Chinese corporation.

It's like they're cashing in.

It's like, I don't know.

I'm super, super cynical about it.

And then I know that.

Maybe I end up, well, end up putting 250 hours into it or whatever before I realize what I'm doing.

But I don't know.

I've definitely changed.

I'm just looking for something that scratches an itch now.

I'm like an addict.

Do you know what I mean?

I can't take that fresh shot of a new drug anymore.

I've like done so many over the years that now to me, it's just like, oh, this one's not terrible.

I've got a bit of path of exile too.

And, and for, I mean, I wouldn't say excited is the word because it's, it's a bit, it's a bit different, you know, like when you're older and especially when you have like kids and stuff.

Uh, the game came out on Friday at seven o'clock.

I couldn't play it at seven o'clock.

So I ended up coming out much later in the evening to play.

And

there was there were queues and stuff.

So I thought, oh, well, you know, typical, whatever.

It's just, I'm not going to be able to play.

But I waited for like 10 minutes, got through the queue and stuff, got in, played, and

didn't really like it to begin with.

Like, I just, I think I was expecting, you know, Path of Exile, and it was, it was, it was a very slowed down and much more difficult version of Path of Exile.

It's like, okay, the focus is a lot more on these big boss fights and stuff now.

And it's, you know, it's not, I think eventually you can get to the point where you're just clearing screens really quick and stuff, but everything is so slow to start with.

It's really tough.

Really?

Yeah.

There's like barely any loot dropping.

They want you to like craft loot more as you go rather than just being showered with like tons of stuff.

So there's not that much currency that drops either.

So you got to be kind of careful of you know what you're upgrading and transmuting and stuff like that.

And it's wild.

It's

crazy.

You can get actually get stuck on bosses because if you don't have

really if you don't have like a decent enough build or you're not doing some bosses are like damage checks.

Some bosses are like resistance checks and stuff.

So it's like you turn up and it's just like, yeah, okay, I'm dying on this guy like 30 times.

And so what you have to grind.

So you have to, you've got to go back and grind up.

You got to try to find stuff.

It's like, once it clicks, it's actually pretty great.

Like, I didn't, I started off not enjoying it because I thought, well, this is not Path of Exile.

I want to be quick.

I want to be zooming through.

I want to clear everything quickly.

Yeah.

I want fucking, you know, showers and showers of loot and stuff.

But once it clicks, you kind of get used to the pacing and stuff.

And you think, like, yeah, actually, you know, this is kind of good.

You have to like, sometimes you just got to like pull back a bit and think, okay, I need to go like farm this area because I need to find a better weapon or, you know, I have to craft a better weapon or I have to craft a better armor piece because I need more energy shield or I need some more life or something like that.

And it's just like, it's kind of nice, actually.

It's got a nice, nice pace to it.

It's not for everyone.

I think a lot of people are disappointed.

I think a lot of people are doing the mental gymnastics around it's, you know, it's, it's early access.

What do you expect?

And, you know, like justifying and

everything.

It's a bit of a mess, but I've been enjoying it.

I think it's no, I think it's been pretty fun.

It is a weird one because it is so grindy, right?

Or at least Path of XR was.

And it definitely felt like you were on autopilot a lot of the time and people would play it with something on in another window.

You know,

it's like a kind of an idle.

I always think of Path of XL as like an idle game, really, with a separate game of spreadsheets for you to play when you're at work.

Yes.

And you can just have a have this talent tree tab open and plan out your build and do all that in a meta game

in the background.

And it is,

it is like, there is an element of this in games to make them slow on purpose, right?

To make it feel like a buildup.

It's not like it's not like Elden Ring.

You know, anyone's complaining and saying, oh, I couldn't kill the first boss instantly.

You know,

the attitude is that it's, you want to have to learn and spend some time experiencing it.

And John, maybe it's a good thing to actually make people just look up and because it's so frantic, right?

That's the other thing about Path of XL.

It feels like like every second you're in the game, you should be maximizing.

Yeah, it is.

Because it's like it is.

If I was out there grinding, I'd be showered with loot every second, you know, and I'm just sat here looking at my talent tree.

I'm wasting time.

It does feel like it puts this kind of artificial stress and anxiety onto you when you're playing it.

Yeah.

I don't know if you get that feeling with it.

I certainly don't get that feeling in some other games, you know?

I don't know.

It's a weird one because it's, you know, you can, things can be going well and you're just like you know you're you're you're clearing bad guys and you're not really stressed out and you're just thinking oh you know i hopefully there's a boss coming up soon or whatever but then out of nowhere you just get dumpstered like you just you're not not expecting it you know you'll get like you know in path of exile you got those porcupine guys and if there was like nine of them on the screen at the same time you didn't react to them immediately they would just burst you all at the same time and you'd be dead yeah you a lot of that still happens you know well i think those guys that do the machine gun move out of their chest like blood shooting out of their chest you you you'll come across like 20 of them that the the problem is as well is you're slow and the but the monsters are not they're still fast so like you there's not as much movement speed buffing in the game as you're used to so you're not zooming around as much you're a lot slower and i think this is the problem for me and the bad guys are very fast still it either has to be one or the other yeah in my opinion right it has to be either elden ring where you have to dodge these skill checks and you have to pay attention and it's

a losing experience or it's a boring grind yeah and path of excellent fill either of those very well right like because there's still that split second death like you see it when someone has a lag spike and their hardcore run is over and it's like well you know that's that's just bad game design in my opinion that's bad game design right like that you you have to have like split second reactions or stuff but but but then you know they then the game says oh well it's your fault for having a build where you didn't take the talent that was the cheat death talent.

You didn't take the thing that

really overly exist in.

That's a big thing in Diablo, the cheat death stuff.

A lot of builds have a cheat death sort of thing in it.

But in Path of Exile, in my experience, there's not that many.

You're just like...

No, it's much more punishing.

You just get absolutely...

caned if you're not yeah you know if you don't have the resistances or you don't have the damage or whatever it's just like the game will punish and it's a it's a low punishment, too.

Like, it's just a, I think it's an evolution, though, too.

I always say this about games, but I think it's just this is how it's come about.

Okay, but so new and

exile 2,

when you die, there's checkpoints on the map now, but when you die, you respawn at the checkpoint, but the map respawns.

So, if you've cleared, everything is back.

And not only that, any dropped loot is gone as well.

So, like, if you've picked it up, it's fine.

But if you die and there's like three legendaries on the ground, they're gone when you come back.

Right.

So it's like

even more punishing.

Some of it is a bit weird, but I think, you know,

I think there was a league in Path of Exile that was called, I think it was a league.

I could be wrong about this.

This is just what I've gathered, but I think there was a league in Path of Exile called Ruthless, which was kind of like a stripped down, almost hardcore version of the game where there wasn't as much loot and stuff.

And a lot of people are saying Path of Exile 2 is just ruthless mode, you know, like

more fleshed out.

And like, that's, they've always wanted to do this, this kind of game or whatever.

So I don't know.

But I mean, I think it's tough, right?

Because how much do you bow to community feedback?

Yes.

Like, because sometimes bowing to community feedback alienates large chunks of the community.

Like in RuneScape, they have, I don't know if you know about this with old school runescape.

I can't play that game because apparently it is like crack and I would get really addicted to it and never do anything else.

You probably wouldn't.

Because you can do crafting and stuff right it's it's like crack and they have a thing in there where in order to make a patch at least half of i think it's actually 60 of people have to vote for it it used to be more right um but nothing got voted for that much you know because the community is like right they won't vote for something more than 50 50.

apparently humans can't vote more than 50 50 on anything right um it's crazy but but they have

the same problem where by adding something that half the community wants, they upset half the community.

And I feel like all these people who've committed their time and energy and grinding for the last couple of weeks into Path of Exile, when a patch comes along and changes something,

they all get furious and upset.

And it's like, yeah, it's so difficult.

Well, there was a patch just yesterday and it affected,

you know, like a bunch of like on effect builds.

So, you know, like builds that might be centered around like on freeze, you know, do a comet or like on minion death, do an explosion or whatever.

But they, they kind of did this like blanket change to a lot of this stuff, which just ruined so many people's builds.

And people are like, what the heck?

You know, like, I've been

taken me a long time to get to the level I'm at.

And now they've obviously decided.

This does not work at all to make kills.

Yeah, they've decided that it's early access.

Yeah,

and that means they can, A, sell it.

Yes.

Okay.

So normally part of Excel was free, but this time you have to buy it to get early access, right?

And the second thing is it's

they can make an the excuse can be we can make these changes, right?

Which they obviously have to do, or else the game's just broken because someone finds some little builds, they get shared around immediately, and then everyone's just doing that instead.

And then they're playing the game in a way that they didn't intend.

And I don't know, it's like it is, has it has this competitive nature to it as well, right?

Which makes which is quite a big part of it, you know, the leaderboards and the score and accolades associated with that.

That's that's a big part of the game, right?

It's not just a casual

fun thing, it's not like a sticker game yeah the guys who play it and play it a lot are are pretty hardcore they're just like yeah and so and and that's the part of it you know and as a result oh i just don't envy people doing it sorry pfax you've not said anything i does not he's not a path of exile enjoyer we can stop landscape enjoyer no we can we can stop sorry sorry what have you been playing lately

let's not talk about video games anymore okay that's like 25 minutes of we'll move on yeah sorry sorry about that sorry i I just know that once we go down that rabbit hole, it's just going to be a podcast about video games.

Games and games and games.

Originally,

originally, this podcast was meant to be about video games.

Wait, I don't think it was, you know.

And now it's become the usual.

It's become so politicized.

All we talk about.

Guys, let's stop talking about games.

Let's talk about politics again.

Politics

all the time.

I want to talk about this game that we played at the pub the other night.

Talking of games, this was a real-life game, which I know is weird for all of us.

This was called Trivia Shots.

Okay.

Paul Choi basically told me this game.

And what you do is instead of trivia like, what is the longest river in the world or whatever, it's things like, how many pints of Guinness do you think are drunk every year globally?

And whoever

is the worst guess has to drink from their drink.

Oh, okay.

So how many pints of Guinness do you think are sold annually worldwide?

Worldwide?

Yeah.

Oh,

how many in a year?

Three.

How many per year?

I'm going to say like 2 billion.

Okay.

Good grief.

Lewis.

Okay.

I'm going to say 500 million.

Sips is very close.

It's 1.8 billion.

Whoa.

Whoa, I was really close.

You got to drink really close.

Oh, my God.

Okay, I'll drink some of my tea.

Is that okay?

Yeah.

So we also, we were saying you have to take a glug of your drink.

But then we were like, well, what's the difference between a sip, a glug, and a gulp?

You should get your guys on this one.

The room guys.

The guys who did the room thing.

No, we don't need to.

We Googled it.

Oh, right.

A sip is about five mils.

A glug is about two tablespoons, about 30 mils.

And a gulp is about 80 to 90 mils.

Right.

Whoa.

That's all.

You could look all this up.

Anyway, so here's the next one.

I feel like a gulp is only a gulp if you're like almost choking because you've...

you've taken too much.

You know, you know, like you do that with water sometimes.

You drink too much water and then you're like, you swallow it and you're like, oh God, that hurt actually.

Like, I just don't hear gulp used as a positive that often.

No.

Like you might, you might say, I was swimming.

I accidentally took a big gulp of the pool water and then I was coughing.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, these are the kind of things that you would find in like a Dungeons and Dragons handbook, right?

Because the DM would be like, How much of that did you actually drink?

Or did you have a sip, a glug or a gulp?

Yeah, exactly.

And the player will be like, I had a sip.

You've got to roll five dice to determine if it was a gulp or just a sip or whatever.

That's a Dungeons and Dragons thing, right?

Exactly.

Yeah, it's rolling dice.

Critical dice.

Very much.

A critical dice roll.

It is a very

old school medieval measurement, right?

Because I guess people back in the day,

the measures that we have, right, are supposed to be more associated with something.

Like a pound of something was a pound of silver or whatever.

I don't know.

A pound meant something physical

more.

Whereas,

sorry, carry-on.

How many Big Macs are sold in the US in a year?

So, this is

just America, Big Macs per annum, North America.

Five billion.

Five billion.

Five billion Big Macs.

I mean, I don't know whether it's like what's that higher or lower?

I reckon it's lower.

I'm going to say, I'm going to say 2 billion, same as the Guinness.

Okay, you're way off both of you.

It's 550 million.

Oh, 550 million.

Okay.

I thought it would be way more than uh than Guinness.

Like, you know, right, so you might think Guinness is global.

I guess Ireland probably drinks a bit more.

I guess the thing is, is you're not just having one Guinness for the most part, you're probably having a couple.

True, but also McDonald's is competing with all the other fast food channels.

Oh, yes, and this is only one item.

They've got stiff competition against the Whopper, for example.

And that's true.

And Big Mac's only one of the things that's one

thing on a vast menu of

culinary delights.

It's still an awful lot of Big Macs.

That's a lot of Big Macs.

I thought it would be way more.

What was your McDonald's?

Did you ever have a McDonald's birthday when you were a kid?

I did, yeah.

Of course.

We had the Ronald McDonald caboose at our McDonald's.

It was like...

What is that?

It was outside of the restaurant.

Out back of the restaurant, they had a big clown train caboose to have parties in.

This was only at one location in the city I grew up in.

I don't remember it being at any of the other ones.

Some of them had big indoor play areas.

I remember the McDonald's close to my house had a massive indoor

playground, like slide with a ball pit and all that kind of stuff.

But this other McDonald's had a clown Ronald McDonald caboose.

This is so weird.

I found a picture of it.

You could have your birthday party in there.

Yeah, it was like that.

You could have a birthday party in there, and

part of the party was, you know, you'd have a burger or some fries or whatever.

and then some of the characters would come and visit too.

So, like Grimace and uh fucking uh the hamburgler and that other looking back now, that was just some teenager forced to wear a stupid costume.

Yeah, oh my gosh, it was probably wasn't the real Grimace, the real Grimace is in um Burgerland.

He's doing crazy,

he's got a he's got to package up all the burgers for the boys and the girls.

I got five kids to feed

Grimace is a player, man.

Oh, man.

But we have Mr.

Wimpy

in Bournemouth because the McDonald's was

quite a while before we got a McDonald's in Bournemouth.

And when I was first there, when I was in the States, we had the Burger King.

I was a Burger King fan more than McDonald's back then.

It's a weird one, isn't it?

It's kind of like the Sega Nintendo thing in the 80s and 90s.

Yeah, I guess it was.

Burger King, McDonald's.

There were some people.

I mean, I just thought they were.

There were weird dividing lines in society back then, wasn't there?

Yeah, unlike today when we're all unified.

Yeah, I know.

That sucks, eh?

It's so boring now.

But so the Wimpy party had Mr.

Wimpy.

I don't know if you want to look up a picture of Mr.

Wimpy.

We had a Wimpy in Jersey when I first moved over.

Yeah, of course.

Wimpy Burger.

But we'd have the party there, and of course, everyone just chases the Mr.

Wimpy, whoever's the poor soul was dressed as Mr.

Wimpy, and tries to look up his sort of skirt that he's wearing and try to tip him over.

And the guy just kind of runs away.

Because the costume goes over the head of the wearer.

So you can see the legs going up into this dark hole of the costume.

And everybody wants to see if they can see the person up there.

So they're all trying to look up and Mr.

Wimpy's trying to like stop kids from peeking up their legs.

So Mr.

Wimpy is a beef eater.

There you go.

I've sent a little picture of him.

He is frightening.

His hat is kind of

burger meat colored.

Looks like a cup of tea, I thought.

He's got like a kind of

eyeless, smiley head with a sort of very strange, wrinkly neck.

Yes.

And then kind of a plastic bag dress.

Yeah.

It's weird.

You can tell by the legs and the shoes of the person in the costume that they fill that costume adequately.

They look portly.

You can just tell the legs and the shoes.

It's just like, yeah, I know who that is.

That's someone's dad under there for sure.

So Wimpy, for anyone that's not in the UK, was just...

It still is.

You do still see them, I think,

is a really dog shit burger chain.

It was like the British

you still see them occasionally.

Yeah, I'm sure.

There's apparently 58 locations in England.

Oh, right.

So it is more or less.

So it's still going.

70 years of wimpy.

Yeah.

90 years.

90 years of wimpy.

Their headquarters are in Johannesburg, South Africa.

Wow.

I know.

There are Wimpies in Lesotho.

Jeez.

South Africa, UK, Kuwait, Egypt, Lesotho, and the UAE.

In Bloomington, Indiana.

So it's an American company.

I

have no idea.

I just want you to know.

I know you guys are making fun of me the other week, but this week I've won 12 pounds on scratch cards.

Went to Christmas.

How much have you lost?

Well, they're two pounds per card.

How many did you buy?

I probably bought about 30.

You do as you go.

The draw is on the 19th.

So the thing is,

you get the scratch card portion, but then you get the card on top is

eligible for the big draw on the 19th for 300 grand.

Oh, right.

So it's a double whammy.

It's a double whammy, yeah.

So you basically get

the winners and part of the main draw.

Yeah, but

it's always a group that wins.

It's never a single ticket holder.

Oh, it's a banks.

They do get syndicated.

Yeah, there's like 10 people and they buy like 500 tickets or whatever.

And they usually,

it's usually one of them that wins.

do you do

is it um

so when you said i just want to clarify so when you said you'd won 12 pounds did you mean you'd spent 60 pounds no i didn't spend 60 pounds straight up i have to go to the store every day to get stuff milk or whatever you know yeah but you've spent 60 pounds overall yeah probably about so you so yeah you should have opened that sentence by saying i've lost 38 48 pounds

that way because i usually just buy a ticket every day so like if I'm buying a bit of shopping or, you know, like getting a couple of bits and pieces, I take my daughter to school in the morning and

right next to her school pretty much is a little convenience store.

I go in.

Yes, yeah, I understand that.

But then I get them a second ticket because they're too picked.

I understand

all of this.

I understand how this works.

You're describing yourself losing money.

No, no, no, it's not like a losing money.

No, but I think the tone, you guys are acting like I've just gone to Vegas and I've lost my life savings.

Like it's just,

it's just a little fun thing that I do every day.

I have to have some joy in my life.

I love that this is the only possible thing that you could do to cheer yourself up.

Oh, I'm trying to go on the little thing.

Also, the excuse, the excuse.

Oh, well, it's only, I'm buying.

I'm telling you, when I scratch that bonus box and I see Santa, I could cry.

I'm so happy.

Do you know what?

When you win the lottery as well, when you win the Eurobillion Sips,

You have to pull out the budget.

I got to walk you through how I buy a TGB.

We'll be laughing.

We'll be laughing on the other side of our face.

You guys will be so happy.

Can you imagine?

All right, listen.

If I win the Eurobillions, we'll finally do that trip to France we've always dreamed of.

Jeez, thanks so much.

I've also got a mortgage you could pay off and not even notice.

No, TGV is pretty much my limit.

One first-class ticket on the TGV for my good friend

Sirian Flex.

That's like when my sister told my mom that if she ever won the lottery, she'd do her kitchen up for her.

Oh my god, kitchens are not cheap to do nowadays.

When's the last time you looked at?

A guy I used to work with was telling me that he had his kitchen done recently, and it costs like 30 grand to get your kitchen redone.

I was like, you know what?

I believe it's

fucking Brexit and the cost of materials, finding somebody who actually wants to do the work.

Man, oh man, that list goes on and on and on.

It's just crazy.

All right.

Here's another

trivia shot for you.

What is the longest that anyone has ever held their breath underwater?

And I want it in minutes and seconds.

10 minutes, Gybrush Threepwood, Monkey Island one.

Fuck me.

Uh, God, you're so quick with these, and you're like saying the number I want to say before I say them.

And then I look like I'm just copying you every damn time.

Well, start copying me.

Yeah, be original.

Come over your own shit.

All right.

I'm going to say six hours.

Fucking six hours is fucking silly.

No, I'm not.

This guy is wasting our time.

This is an insult to our intelligence or lack of time.

I'm going to say

six minutes.

Six minutes.

Six minutes.

What fucking planet do you live on, man?

Six.

Nobody's holding their breath for six.

Actually, it could be possible.

24 minutes.

24

ages.

I was close.

27 seconds.

Yeah, you went.

24 minutes.

That's like a whole fucking episode of The Simpsons.

Like, how fucking that's ages?

Yeah, yeah, pretty crazy.

That's insane.

That's crazy.

Who did that?

Some Croatian.

Those deep diver guys are all, they all trained to do it, right?

Do I have to drink

longest breath?

You got to take a big gulp of whatever it is you're having, tea.

24 minutes and 37 seconds.

It's insane.

That is insane.

Did his face turn blue and then green and then red?

Like, did he go through all the colors of the rainbows?

I don't know.

Like I was three-footed.

I don't know how they do it.

Oh, yeah, it's

like

it's the really, really deep diver people that can do it, right?

Because they can.

Yeah, it's like free diving, they call it.

Yeah.

Yeah, they can, they, they, they train for that because apparently the pressure and everything, the deeper down you go, affects your ability.

Okay, he did it with pure oxygen, though.

That's cheating.

What do you mean?

That's cheating.

The longest without oxygen is 11.35.

Right, okay.

That's more like

Sims closer.

What do you mean he did it with pure oxygen?

He did it with 100% oxygen.

So he was underwater already.

He took a, he had a breath mask.

He gave him, he breathed 100% oxygen, held that

in his lungs, because normally it's only 21% oxygen or whatever.

And so, of course, he can hold his fucking breaths for like five times longer than everyone else.

For six hours, give me the pure oxygen.

I'll do it for six hours.

Well, exactly.

It's like, oh, I held my breath for six hours by having it injected.

He would have to hold his blood under there so long that it is chasing that he would have had to pee or poo during the time he was doing it.

Speaking of pooing, and I'll throw back to you.

Have you ever pooped it in this, like, have you ever been submerged in water and pooped?

No.

No, I mean, maybe as a baby, I think.

Maybe as a baby.

Wayne Gretzky fact for you.

Yeah.

Wayne Gretzky.

Oh, I've got, can I, before you do a Wayne Gretzky fact, can I give you

a Wayne Gretzky fact?

Of course.

He is a MAGA guy now.

Really?

He's Canadian.

Well, there's Canadian MAGA too.

He's drinking the juice.

Well, Wayne Gretzky and his brother hold the record for most points by a pair of brothers in NHL history.

Nice.

By a pair of brothers.

So two brothers.

Oh my gosh.

I've never even heard of his brother.

Fucking stats.

Wayne probably accounts for most of the stats.

His brother has four points.

Right.

And Wayne has

all the rest.

Yeah, because

he was the fastest player, fastest player to get a thousand points.

And he's also the second fastest player for his second thousand points.

He's the second fastest.

And his brothers has four points.

Yeah.

Right.

Okay.

Oh, right.

I see.

So, because I see

this chat all the way.

That's more interesting.

Okay.

I like that.

His brother has basically no points, but he's got so many that it still earned a big achievement.

Okay, cool.

These are drinking trivia questions.

They're good because we were thinking about what to do for Simon Clark's quiz.

Well, I wasn't thinking about it.

Simon was.

Yes.

For next time.

I wanted to suggest pointless.

mean pointless is good

is pretty good yeah yeah i i would i mean here's here's an example of one uh how many times do you think per year you blink

a year like uh a trillion times

a trillion numbers no maybe like uh like five billion times okay how many times do you blink per second well it depends like five a minute if you tell me something shocking i'm not blinking for probably like a minute

so you can shave a couple off there

if you win if you win the lottery ticket,

how many are you blinking?

Do you know what I mean?

Oh, God, I wouldn't blink for probably like two or three minutes.

If I'm doing a really complicated task on a computer game, I'm probably not blinking much either.

I'll just tell you, it's

4.2 million times a year on average.

Oh, fucking hell.

You can't just sit there and work it out.

You've got to estimate.

You're not allowed to start calculating shit.

I would have said 4.3 million.

Okay, well, it was 4.7.

4.2.

So how many is that?

That's like like three a second no it's no it's not it's not no it's like a couple of minutes no you don't blink three times a second unless you've got a tick

seconds so how many was it four million how many seconds in a year there are 31 million seconds right okay and then you we're blinking 4.5 million times all right so it's like yeah you're you're blinking i mean also

when you're asleep you know think about once or twice a minute then that means yeah no it's much it's more than that three or four i mean what you you only blink every 30 seconds i don't know i don't count

well

i don't i haven't uh figured out the pattern you know i think it just it's one of those things that just happens when it needs to happen you know keeping the old peepers lubed up my body my brain they work together they know

they know when it needs to happen they know when the magic needs to occur yeah so twice

you blink every few seconds every three or four seconds on average okay okay that makes sense so a thousand blinks an hour a thousand blinks an hour

yeah But I guess you don't realize.

Your brain cuts it out.

Yep.

I wonder how much you miss.

Apparently, like blinking does cost, you miss like millions of dollars worth of movie.

Do you know what I mean?

That's interesting.

That is true.

If you blink during like Avatar, you miss like a million dollars.

Yeah.

Yeah, that's true.

What if you blink through Michael Douglas the game?

but you blink for two solid hours because that movie was really blinking time wells me

yeah just want to avoid the whole thing oh you might miss some good stuff as well in some of those films because there was like one frame that people always pause like basic instinct on.

Do you know me?

Yeah, um, oh, yeah,

the interview, yeah, the Sharon Stone, the swivel, the cross-legged cross-legged swivel.

Oh, what a what a time.

What a time to be alive, eh?

What a time.

God, wasn't it good?

Yeah, it was good.

There was some great time.

It was such a 80s.

It was such a good time.

It was good.

Just the world felt

different, you know, fresh loose, you know, new, wimpy, you know,

wimpy.

A McDonald's caboose.

Steven Seagal didn't have to sit behind a table in all of his action movies back then.

Yeah, none of these people would cancel Bill Cosby.

You know,

yeah, Bill Cosby was freely raping Eaton.

The good old days, is what you're saying.

The good old days.

Back,

Back in the good old days.

Fucking good old days.

Good old days.

Yeah.

I miss them good old days, you know.

Me too.

So does Bill.

I bet he fucking does, yeah.

Fucking hell.

I missed the old

lemon bit.

Fucking hell.

I got to weigh Terry today.

I got to take him out of his

carbonite.

Terry's sleeping time.

Yeah, no, he's

been in for a week.

This is, it's been a a week is that all it takes no he's i'm not waking him up i gotta weigh him i gotta make sure he's not dying in there jesus he hasn't eaten in like a month and he's uh you know his heart rate is down to like you know almost he's almost he's basically almost dead in there he's just he's surviving off of like stored fat and uh i don't know he'll be fine kissing his bladder basically that's it that's all he's got wasn't it uh would you like some lose news i would love some lose news it's lose news well

There's only two things on it this week.

So I think they better be good.

Yeah,

less is more, you know.

So the first thing is Mollison Grommet studio Aardman are bringing a Pokemon animation to life.

2027, the Pokemon Ardman special project.

Ardman's unique style of storytelling will see the Pokemon universe in brand new adventures.

This is a dream partnership for Pokemon, said Taito Okiura, VP of marketing and media at the Pokemon Company International.

Global Pokemon fans are in for a treat.

Oh, my God.

This seems more like a paid promotion than a fucking lose news.

Well,

sure, but that's what news is.

It's just adverts, I suppose.

I mean, I wasn't sure.

It wasn't back in the good old days.

Wimpy.

No.

And this is the other bit of lose news, which Sam has put in.

He's obviously had an off week, Sam.

God bless him this week.

He says,

Amazon's, Amazon's you can now buy cars on Amazon right for some reason if you're insane um Hyundai are allowing

people in 48 US cities to sell their cars on Amazon so you can you can it's mental you can now Amazon autos is a thing how do you now buy you can buy I just take on Amazon

but how do I receive it how do we take it for a test drive they fucking s lazily slap it in how do you get upsold all the extra bells and whistles on board navigation computer and all that extra stuff so wait are you saying secondhand car and yeah trade you can trade in cars as well through oh my god you have to answer a series of questions about it and they'll they'll i think there'll be people to pick it up oh so now we buy any car is going to go bust because

because of

amazon just coming in and it's ruining another good company fuck have you guys ever driven any company that grows that big and if amazon just starts taking over everything, people will just get hit with the whole monopoly thing, right?

Well, it's happening already.

I mean, they probably should be broken up at this point

because it's kind of sad.

They should be dragged out in the backyard and shot like old years ago.

I'll go to a holiday in a couple of weeks, and I wanted to rent a car in Spain for a week and drive around.

I've never driven on the right-hand side before.

Have you guys done that?

Yes, extensively.

Not in

the, not in the

British car, though.

You know, like not in a

local car.

In a local car, I've done it.

But your brain switches surprisingly quickly.

Just make sure you're in the middle of the road.

Just make sure you're seated in the middle of the road and you're fine.

The big one for me is lane drifting because you're used to having the lines on a certain side of your car.

Like when you're driving, you're used to the dotted line literally being on just to your right.

Yes.

You're in the UK.

So having to switch your brain to not drift over naturally.

And roundabouts and other turnings where your instinct is to turn the wrong way, essentially.

But you'll notice how often you're just literally following the cars in front of you anyway.

So after a while, yeah, it's like you have to just really focus very hard on looking the correct way when you're turning onto a road, but you get used to it very quickly.

I have this long-running,

well, it's like, it's not really a joke, but like anytime I'm driving

and my wife is like, how fast are you going?

I always say, oh, I'm just following the guy in front of me.

It doesn't matter.

But like, sometimes I'll say it and there's nobody in front of me.

Okay.

But like every single time she's ever asked me how fast I'm driving, I always say, oh, it doesn't matter.

I'm just following the guy in front of me.

I don't know if you guys have anything like that where you just

click an in-joke.

She gets mad every time, too.

She's like, that fucking doesn't make any sense.

You can't, you know, that's not an excuse.

If you get pulled over, you can't just say, I was following the guy in front of me.

Like, what's the guy in front of you is going like 200 miles an hour or something, you know?

But, uh, but still, I say it.

I stand by it too.

Yeah.

Why not?

I'm, I'm, yeah, I'm going away over Christmas.

Wow.

What, like, like Christmas Day, you'll be away.

Yes.

Oh, my God.

You know what?

We've never done it, but there is chat of, you know, potentially doing it.

I'm always scared about the Christmas travel woes.

Yeah.

And it's always listed as woes.

Woes, yeah.

It'll be a headline.

Christmas travel woes strike Brit tourists as Heathrow Airport, Gatwick, backed up 27-day delays on all I wouldn't want to fly somewhere

just like because of the woes.

But,

you know, driving somewhere, I think, would be fine.

Because of the woes.

Just to counter the woes, yeah.

Yeah.

Well, I'm kind of not, I'm not like.

There was a big storm, obviously, lately.

Yeah.

And it was, we all got sent a alarm you know the the the nuclear warning alarm through our phones fuck me storm frightening

yeah it happened during jingle jam and obviously a load of people in the studio their phones all went off and um

man it's it's that it's the emergency alert i guess it's never been used uh and since they did that test a couple of years ago well we had uh we had the the the tail end of that uh over here and um they were anticipating it being quite bad: 75 mile an hour winds,

lots of rain, and you know, just generally stormy, stormy gale force wind weather.

And they were like, you know, if you don't need to be out, don't go out and stuff.

So everything was canceled.

Like all like my kids' Saturday clubs and stuff that they go to, everything was canceled.

And we were like, oh man, not again, because we had a bad storm last year.

And I thought, fuck, you know, it's going to be garage is going to be flooded again and everything.

And it was, uh, it was, it was nothing but one thing that did happen was we have an outside toilet like uh for all the work that we've had done on our house it was almost in the road the wind pushed it yeah gosh yeah wow your toilet nearly blew away nearly it was nearly in the middle of the road you should have taken some like preemptive dumps in there just to lock it you know see

the awesome power of nature yeah it just shows it just shows how powerful it can be and the thing is we haven't really had anyone around because everybody's winding down for christmas so that thing is clean as a whistle There's no dumps or peeps or anything in there.

So even if it did get knocked over, it wouldn't matter.

It wouldn't have mattered at that point.

So we were pretty safe, luckily.

The flipping,

I mean, I remember when I was a kid that we had some big storms, the Great Storm of 1987.

I remember that very well.

Back in the good old days.

The Great Wind.

The Great Wind.

The Great Wind.

We had the Great Wind back in my day.

What do you have now?

I had that.

I had that last night, actually, after eating some.

But the fucking,

it was.

I remember, you know, power cuts were a fairly normal thing when I was a kid.

Like, we had power cuts quite often living in the countryside.

I used to get them, we used to get them all the time, even in Bournemouth.

It felt like it was a fairly regular thing, yeah.

Yeah, like, like, honestly, like, more often than not, we'd be using the candles.

No, it wasn't that common, but it was definitely more common being in the countryside.

And I think, um, it was, I think that, that was a 120 mile now wins and stuff.

I mean, this was relatively honestly, like, I didn't notice it was going on, right?

You know, and I guess maybe that's because I've been in a city center.

When I was a kid, though, the power going out was never like that.

It was, it was an issue, like, you know, for, you know, like heating and stuff like that, obviously.

But, like, say, in the summer, the power went out because there was like a big thunderstorm or something like that,

which I remember happening, like, quite fairly often.

It was never like a huge deal.

I feel like nowadays, it's like a really big deal if the power goes out because everything everybody wants to do needs, you know, internet or some some kind of power or whatever you know so it's like it feels like it would be a lot a lot worse now but back then it just it didn't really you know like you lost your power for a couple of hours you just read or you know go outside or whatever like it wasn't like it wasn't too bad but i feel like people probably be more affected now but having said that there's far less power cuts i i can't remember the last time there was a full power cut over here at least so no i mean we were obviously worried because of jingle jam we were thinking what we got to do if there's a power cut or if the um internet goes down or something but really fortunately, it was uh it all it all blew over without any too much too much.

So, someone, someone did die.

Actually, someone was hit by a tree.

Their van was hit by a tree, I think.

Yeah, so you know, it's pretty serious.

But I think back in 87, look, 22 people died

in the UK to

in England.

In the Great Wind, yeah.

Fucking hell.

What was the guy?

What was that guy's name?

Was it Michael Fisher?

I think it was Michael Fisher Fisher.

Very famous.

He said, There's not going to be a storm.

And then I remember because that was, it was the first month that I'd started at secondary school.

I'm 100% sure we've spoken about this before, but never mind.

What are you going to secondary school?

No, the storm of 87.

Oh, yeah.

And Bournemouth was like, a lot of the trees were knocked down.

There was a lot of damage.

And when we went to the school after they'd reopened it,

so many trees in the woods just behind the school, which was called the Cops for some reason,

were just knocked down.

It was like a massive playground.

It was amazing.

But yeah, it was like lots lots of really old trees got taken out by that storm.

A lot of building damage.

I think some people died as well.

It was bad.

It was really bad.

We had a bad ice storm in 98 in

Ontario and Quebec.

And

that was the worst storm I remember.

from when I was younger.

It would have been like the same as your 1986, 87 one, but ice instead.

Damn.

Yeah, 28 people died in Canada.

Yeah, I think it was like

parts of montreal didn't have power for like weeks it was it was crazy it was yeah it was freezing rain is an ice storm just freezing rain it was freezing it was just that unfortunately not cold enough to be fully snow so it was just like slushy rain that then just um

that then just turned in immediately into ice once it once it uh once it was on the ground and everything was up all the power lines because all all the all the all like the power poles were like busted and everything.

And all the trees.

Oh, it was crazy.

I remember being off school for like two weeks.

It was insane.

Oh, wow.

That was great.

You could have played Fortnite, you know?

Well, no, it was no Fortnite back then.

We had to do an asynchronous

asynchronous TI4 game.

Fucking hell.

Play by Evan.

Had to play by Evan.

Back then, yeah.

All right, well, anyway.

I think we should probably

put a pin in in the podcast.

Thank you for listening, everyone.

We did record a little bit before.

Yeah, I had some computer woes.

But since this computer crashed, we lost the recording.

So I'm going to let Tom have the footage from me and PFLAX anyway.

And if there is a conversation in there with Sip Silent and it's usable, that might go in.

I don't want to flush that gold down the toilet.

I do remember that he didn't say much in the opening 10 minutes.

And then, of course, we were talking for a little bit before we noticed that he'd crashed from Discord.

Yeah, that's true.

I couldn't have been talking much at all if you didn't even notice that I crashed or anything.

No, it was cracking content.

Craven the Hunter and Natalie Powell.

Craven the Hunter.

Now, I remember both of those conversations.

Yeah.

Right.

Well, good.

Well, okay.

Do you want to add anything that you think you might have said in response to those two conversations right now?

Yeah, I would have probably said, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

We'll just layer that.

We could probably just

put them in

old episodes.

Oh, and sneak them in see

in some stuff and shit's going absolutely and shit like oh my god yeah oh yeah yeah

hello everyone welcome back to the triforce podcast hello i'm uh joogle jam is is nearly at the end as of time of recording this podcast yeah so um pyrion is here in bristol i'm in bristol hello have you been sleeping okay in your lovely airbnb or it's going all right yeah um i uh i've found that as i get older my body punishes me for daring to sleep on a pillow that isn't my specific pillow oh yeah a mattress that isn't my specific mattress and it's like oh this isn't our pillow i'm gonna be sore all day and you're like what are you talking about it's a perfectly serviceable bed and pillow but it's just it's becoming less and less adaptable every day i was watching uh apollo 13 last night because there was nothing else on i was watching that and uh they were talking about how uh when it comes to re-entry in the earth's atmosphere it would be like if you placed a basketball and a baseball 14 feet apart the astronauts would be aiming for uh something no thicker than a piece of paper right yeah and when i'm sleeping i feel like it's the same level of engineering to make sure that i don't crick my neck or woke up with a bat it's ridiculous so what i've what i have to do now at home we have a memory foam mattress i have a memory foam pillow that's pretty solid and then i also have to sleep cuddling another cushion to support my left arm because i tend to sleep on my right side otherwise my shoulder drops over the night and i wake up and my left arm is like uh so i basically need to be encased in jello or something like that overnight would be ideal like you know when when hans solo was in carbonite i'm looking at that and thinking nowadays amazing just freeze me in carbonite every night best night's sleep oh yeah throw me in the right position i want to be carbonated put me in the carbon in the exact right position and then wake me up every morning perfect hey talking of disasters this craven the Hunter movie.

Have you seen this?

What?

No, I've never heard of it.

So, well, that's problem number one, I think, for the poor makers of Craven the Hunter.

Look at Craven the Hunter with a K.

Okay.

Okay, just look at this.

Craven the Hunter.

So, this came out,

I think it came out very, I think it's coming out next week, actually, something like that.

It's been trashed.

Everywhere's saying it's terrible.

Roberts Marches is 14%.

Some people are saying it's even worse than Madame Webb.

It's meant to be garbage.

Now, first of all, I don't even fucking really know who Craven the Hunter is.

Like, I don't give a shit about this.

I've never heard of Craven the Hunter.

No, who cares, right?

Who is he?

Is he a superhero?

He's a Marvel.

Marvel hero.

Wow.

A Marvel

character.

Really?

So

he was a big enemy of Spider-Man back in the day, apparently.

And as a big Spider-Man fan, I'd completely forgotten or missed Craven the Hunter.

Whether they'd made this so that they wouldn't miss having access to the Marvel back catalog, I I don't know.

They made this so that this is the most recent film that they've made in and their last, and they'll be like, Oh, good thing we don't have that Marvel stuff anymore.

Remember how badly Craven the Hunter did?

Like, that's the only reason I can think that you would ever make this film because it looks dreadful.

It's a character no one cares about.

Okay, so

in 2024, there's a superhero who is a big game hunter.

Yeah,

he hunts men.

He hunts men.

Oh, I see.

Okay, yeah.

So he's uh, he's a not, he's not hunting animals right russell crowe's the hunter right russell crowe plays a russian oligarch nikolai um yeah but it looks garbage yeah and he's a big game hunter he's the big game hunter and craven so he is the one who's killing lions he was in thor love and thunder yeah i remember that well he was in that as zeus i think um and it was utterly unrecognizable uh russell crowe um he's he's put on a bit of timber since his his heyday oh yeah um i think he's enjoying the good life um hey i am flaming the guy i'm just saying at first with the with the costume and the makeup i didn't recognize it like i was like i don't know who this is and then i said to my wife who is that she's like that's russell crowe he was doing like this greek accent sort of thing as zeus it was bizarre yeah it was utterly the whole movie was terrible but that was a a low light i somehow skipped that one yeah which is sad because wasn't it taika waititi was doing it i mean did they just go too far onto the wacky um well for love and thunder yeah was it too silly it was not funny okay um it thought it was funny yeah uh i think that mr waititi has is out of ideas because i've seen all of his films he's made lately and i have not enjoyed any of them uh next goal wins was a totally missed opportunity um i think love and thunder was dreadful i mean i i will say again the curse of natalie portman looms over any movie that she's in yeah i mean she's just box office poison Natalie Portman.

You know what I mean?

But if you look at her films, so let's look at the filmography of Natalie Portman.

So we have Leon the Professional, which was great.

Pete, which was one of my favorite movies.

Life of Vendetta was good, but she's made an awful lot of crap.

Mr.

Magurium's Wonder Emporium, right?

That sucks.

That's dreadful.

Was it a Terry Gilliam one?

I mean, probably.

No, that's...

Oh, I don't know who this is, but no, it's not.

It sounds like a Gilliam, but it's not.

It does.

She was in Thor, and that was like the worst Thor movie up till Love and Thunder as Jane Foster.

She was in Thor Dark World, which was also not great.

It was like okay.

The heyday of the insensitive bastards.

I mean, that looks fucking dreadful.

Jane Got a Gun.

I haven't seen that, but I'm sure it's dreadful.

Pride and Prejudice and Zombies, which I just thought was shit, that she was a producer on that.

Annihilation was good, actually.

That was good.

That was good.

The death and life of John F.

Donovan.

A lot of films with dog shit long titles.

Stop that.

Stop that.

She was in Avengers Endgame very briefly.

Stop that.

Don't do these stupid long titles.

Stop that.

What's that one that's good, though?

Everything everywhere all at once.

That's a great title, and it's long and it's good.

That's a good movie.

So, yeah, that is good.

But I mean, the Englishman who went to Wong Fu, Thanks for Everything, Julie Newmar.

That's a terrible name for a movie.

Yeah.

That's a The Englishman who went up a hill and came down a mountain.

That's a very, very, very bad name for a movie.

Stop.

Stop it.

Stop it, please.

Anyway, it's a movie from 1995.

Yeah, it's got Wesley Snipes as a drag queen in.

That's old.

Man, it's amazing that what it's amazing.

It's like we did Cyber Clark's quiz the other day on Single Jam.

And

these, these are like, I'm amazed how much people know and how much I don't know constantly.

You know, like I've, I'm constantly

real, like, like movies that are coming out this year that I've never heard of, like this, this thing.

I haven't, somehow I even even picked up the, what's that?

I've convinced what it's called.

Craven the Hunter.

Craven the Hunter.

God, what, what what forgettable oh yeah garbage name it does it just sounds it doesn't sound like a superhero film either does it it sounds like you know what's weird is craven as a name craven means fearful like as afraid well i always think the word crave though is that is a is a is a

chocolate cereal right that's crave the chocolate that's the cereal my kids want and don't get that's what crave is they're like can we have crave i'm like well you may need to pour sugar into your directly into your body just literally get a bag of sugar and shove that down your neck wash it it down with some milk, and that you may as well do that.

That's all the craving.

When I was a kid, I got those, I managed to trick my parents into buying those variety packs of where you get eight different cereals, mini boxes, because they had one box of Coco Pops in the eight, and that would be the one I would go for.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

And then my poor family would have to eat all the rest of them.

The corn flakes and the rice krispies.

But it got to the point where my parents would force me to eat like horrible cereal for a few days.

And then I could finally get a new variety pack.

So I guess guess it cut down my Cocoa Pops intake to at maximum once a week.

By the way, Sips has left the Discord.

Oh, in rage, he's rage.

Falling out, you mentioned the Rice Krispies of Coco Pops, and he was like, I'm leaving.

I wonder if his internet went down or his Discord or he blue-screened.

Okay, well, thank you for listening.

Thanks,

and uh, see you next time.

See you.

Bye.

Goodbye.