#3074 RHOSLC S608 Part 1: Fight or Flight Response

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Speaker 1 Hello and welcome to Watch What Crap Ends, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about.

Speaker 1 I'm Ben Mandelker and joining me today on Bravo Con Eve, it's the one and only Ronnie Karim. Hi, Ronnie.
How's it going? Hi, Ben. How are you, honey?

Speaker 1 I am thrilled and excited. I'm going to my very, very first BravoCon tomorrow.
You've been before, but I've never been. I'm a BravoCon virgin.
I'm so excited.

Speaker 1 I went around, shopped for outfits and looks. And we are really excited.

Speaker 1 In case you missed the announcement earlier this week, we are doing a Watcher Crappins party that's going to be in Las Vegas on Saturday night at Beer Park. It's at 10 p.m.

Speaker 1 So there will be no conflicts with anything. Come join for a fun party that should go for hours and hours.
We'll have special cocktails.

Speaker 1 We'll have special cocktails. We'll have Jenny's ice cream.
You know, there's no Jenny store in all of Las Vegas. So get your Jenny's ice cream at our party.

Speaker 1 By the way, it's also all free. This is not a thing you have to pay.
There's no tickets or anything. Just show up and have fun.
We got a lot of great time.

Speaker 1 You got to buy your booze, but entry is free. But let's get it.
Got people too excited over there. Penises cost money extra.
Okay. You will be paying for whatever penises are available.

Speaker 1 You will be paying for the penises. But beer park is in the, is in the Paris Casino, which is right close to all sorts of things.

Speaker 1 And we're going to have a great time. And we'll just like go hang out and we'll swap stories about everything we've seen and done that weekend.
So come join us for that. We are so excited.

Speaker 1 Also, this weekend. on Sunday afternoon, we are moderating our very first ever panel at BravoCon.
We are moderating the Next Gen New York City panel. So definitely come by and,

Speaker 1 you know, ask some good questions because we'll be ready for it. You'll get hop on that mic.
We're really excited, excited to see everyone at BravoCon. So that's all the BravoCon news.

Speaker 1 And of course, the usual news, which is that this recap is available on Patreon.

Speaker 1 We did a bonus episode this week where we did a trailer trash of Beverly Hills trailer that I think is coming out tomorrow. And

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Speaker 1 Wow, we've got

Speaker 1 that's it. Now we got us, we have a Salt Lake City episode.
What an episode to power us into BravoCon.

Speaker 1 I feel like Meredith Marks is going to have to, she's going to be fielding a lot of questions this weekend, and it's going to be real interesting to see how this all pans out.

Speaker 1 What say you, Rondal Carom?

Speaker 1 Good episode.

Speaker 1 That was the best scene. I mean, there was so much.
Have we ever seen two housewives sit down and talk about how they're going to fuck other people and their old ass husbands? I don't think we have.

Speaker 1 I thought that scene was extraordinary, actually. I thought it was a great scene.
I was like, wow,

Speaker 1 that was interesting. I kept

Speaker 1 being so honest. Yeah, it was a very honest scene.

Speaker 1 They weren't really that honest. Let's face it.

Speaker 1 They were doing that thing like if you're a Cokehead and you're looking for somebody else to do Coke with, you're usually like, yeah, you know, I don't really like that.

Speaker 1 And then you wait to see if they're like, I do. And then they pull it out and you're like, me too.
And then you go do Coke together. That was what these two were doing with each other.

Speaker 1 They're like, you get extra dick? No, I would never. And if I did, I would talk to my husband first.
You get extra dick? Oh, well, no, of course not. I would.

Speaker 1 Now, that time I did get extra dick was amazing. I love getting extra dick.
Wait, you get extra dick? No, I didn't say that. I said, if, if I could get extra.
Yeah, I would never get extra dick.

Speaker 1 I'm getting extra dick. I was like, you two are getting extra dick.
Just say you're getting extra dick. You might as well at this point, just bring out the penis.
And I loved it.

Speaker 1 I thought it was great. Cause I think it happens in so many more marriages than we think.
And, you know, as a gay person, I always think, is this just a gay thing?

Speaker 1 That I think it's because you know, gay people are like, I got some extra dick. Hey, how are you doing today? Good.
I got some extra dick. What'd you do? Got some extra dick.

Speaker 1 You know, that's how we are. But I it's especially on a show like this.
You don't hear that that often.

Speaker 1 So I wonder if it's always gay people, but those straight people are just on the bandwagon these days, especially in Utah. So we're just going to ignore the innovations of Countess Lamanda Le Saps.

Speaker 1 Fine, fine, Ronnie. I mean, she was doing this years ago.

Speaker 1 Well, that's true, but even she did it this way first. She was like, I would never get extra dick.
I've got so much class.

Speaker 1 God, I got extra dick the whole time. You know,

Speaker 1 I thought the scene was remarkable. First of all, I thought this was the best episode of the season.
I thought it had like the campiness, but it also had some really genuine real things.

Speaker 1 It had controversy. But I thought that the scene with Bronwyn and Whitney was remarkable,

Speaker 1 not even because they were talking about getting extra dick. It was remarkable because it felt like a very real conversation.
It felt like they weren't hitting beats for producers.

Speaker 1 And it's not like I feel like these conversations are all super scripted, but there's a cadence to like these real house wives conversations. And this one did not have that cadence.

Speaker 1 This felt like two girlfriends.

Speaker 1 chatting and like sharing and bonding. I felt like they were literally, they were truly connecting over something.
And we were just watching them.

Speaker 1 And they were seemed excited to have this commonality and excited to

Speaker 1 trade notes and

Speaker 1 to sort of like, they were checking in with each other. And I thought it was actually such a real moment that I was like, this is, this is kind of amazing to watch right now.

Speaker 1 Like regardless, they could have been talking about like,

Speaker 1 you know, picking out a Swiffer from the store.

Speaker 1 And I still would have, I think, had the same reaction.

Speaker 1 I mean, they were talking about picking out a fupa from the store, you know, or sharing your fupa with other people, you know, Todd's Fupa.

Speaker 1 Let's be honest, I'm always gonna be more excited to talk about surfers than almost anything in the world.

Speaker 1 But I just thought it was, I thought it was actually really compelling TV to watch these two people find like Whitney and Bron Wynn. Like, I never really see them as being like that close.

Speaker 1 And they had this moment that I thought was like really cool to watch. Well, they will be now.
That's how it is. It's a commonality.

Speaker 1 Well, I don't mean it like that. Well, maybe, but I don't mean it like that.
I just mean, you know, that commonality you find with somebody. It's like you can,

Speaker 1 you know,

Speaker 1 you can, once you like share dick, it's just like a club you're in. You're in the club.
Like we both like share dick. So boom, we're on the same WhatsApp.

Speaker 1 It was also a masterful way of Bronwyn to tackle a rumor and diffuse it in like the span of a minute. Like that's the sort of rumor that takes over an entire season.

Speaker 1 And instead, it just got sort of

Speaker 1 consumed by a larger controversy about a fight on an airplane because she addressed it.

Speaker 1 And then she was like, I would have been fine if you had told me, you know, and then it turned into a whole other story. So she did a kind of an amazing thing.

Speaker 1 And if you're kind of reading between the lines of what she's saying, it's like, oh, okay. Well, this puts everything into context for the season, right?

Speaker 1 Because it's like, Todd was seen making out with this woman. Todd's doing this.
Todd's doing that. It's like, oh, okay.
So he was this whole time. And it's just that you knew.

Speaker 1 It's one of those things like you can do whatever you want, but don't make me look stupid, which I think is the basic rule in relationships like that. And Todd is just fucking that up left and right.

Speaker 1 You can do whatever you want. Just don't make me look stupid.
Now, excuse me, I'm going to change into a hot dog outfit.

Speaker 1 Don't make me look stupid while I'm in an inflatable dolphin costume on TV, throwing someone's talking unicorn overboard. Okay.

Speaker 1 But it also puts into context a lot of the storylines we get on this show because Utah, as we've learned from EOL television, is a swing in place. You know, everybody's like, oh my God, the religion.

Speaker 1 Now we've got Heather Gay's Mormon show and the traumatizing religion and all of that. And, you know, all of this religion, religion.
So everyone thinks of it like that, but

Speaker 1 shared dick. That's their state flower is a shared dick because it's all over the Mormon.

Speaker 1 The state D-flower

Speaker 1 because it's all over the Mormon secret lives of Mormon wives. You know, there's that whole swinging scandal.
But also,

Speaker 1 a lot of people online are like, they're just stealing this from the secret lives. No, ma'ams.
No, ma'ams.

Speaker 1 We are stealing this from this own show because this show started out with allegations of Meredith having an Meredith and

Speaker 1 Jen Shaw sharing the same guy that they were both fucking in New York. So, and then obviously Seth is getting caught today doing whatever and whatever with an Uber.

Speaker 1 So it seems like this is just kind of a swing in town and everybody's doing it, you know, and oh my god.

Speaker 1 Something's happening to my chair. What is happening back there? How dare you say that there are allegations of me cheating? I'm going to shake your chair and

Speaker 1 protest.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but that shit's been around forever. Oh, God, don't even.
And then we'll get into the plain stuff, too, which, you know, of course, I'm going to get yelled at by the entire internet. But

Speaker 1 I can't wait to hear what your take is.

Speaker 1 I don't think you'll be surprised. I haven't settled on my take, I'm going to say.
I've been thinking, I've been trying to think it through. You know, love to hear your insight.

Speaker 1 Everyone get ready for some classic Ben Mandelker rambling as I work through my feelings later in the episode.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 Also go check out a couple of things Ben has done on the internet, which we haven't mentioned yet on this show, but you did a really funny BravoCon video, which harkens back to your classics of two years ago when I was at BravoCon and you weren't.

Speaker 1 And instead made a video series about not being at BravoCon, which was really good. And that is up now on our Instagram.
And I'm assuming your personal Instagram.

Speaker 1 And also, he did a really funny cartoon for Real Housewives of Beverly Hills this season, which was great because your cartoons are always good but this was all new characters for you you know this was like the orange county cast which is new for you and golden it's like a best of all your jokes shoved in that cartoon so it's really good to see

Speaker 1 things out and i'm sorry i mentioned them before also ben has a giant wiener

Speaker 1 so congrats congratulations to ben on that I'll be debuting my new OnlyFans this weekend, sneak peek at the Watcher Profits party. So another reason why you have to come to it.
Thank you.

Speaker 1 Ronnie, thank you. That was, That was so unnecessary.
Yeah, of course. Oh, and you know what? While we're plugging, people,

Speaker 1 sorry to make yours less special, but we keep forgetting to do this too. We've done it before, but we're having our meetup.
But also, Amy Phillips is doing Cabareti at BravoCon.

Speaker 1 She's doing it Thursday, Friday, and Saturday. It's such a good show.
She's such a funny chick. You've got to go see her, do it.
I saw it last BravoCon.

Speaker 1 We will be there at some point, you know, this time to go check her out.

Speaker 1 She's such a good performer, a great comic, and she does great impersonations she's going to be at planet hollywood thursday friday saturday just search cabareamy that's how i found tickets or you can find link in bio on her um

Speaker 1 her instagram which is amy phillips okay so go to

Speaker 1 is it i think it's meet amy phillips oh meet amy phillips on instagram yeah go get tickets for that because it's really really funny and we'll see you there okay yeah yeah actually i would say like thank you for the props on the cartoon and the and the social media video those are just like fun things because i sometimes just like to be creative but like more importantly people support amy phillips she has been a great friend to us and she's helped us out she she subbed in when both of us were vacationing over the summer and she's wonderful but more importantly she's also like a great person and she's very funny so go check out her show Yeah, good chick.

Speaker 1 Okay. Support good chicks.

Speaker 1 Okay. Yeah.
Women supporting women. Okay.

Speaker 1 Wow. Women supporting women.
Okay, let's see. Let's talk about a show where they, how'd I say, let's talk about a show where they, where women are always supporting women from Salt Lake City.

Speaker 1 Well, this was kind of a women supporting women episode in a weird roundabout way because the women did support Brittany. And Brittany's not the easiest one to support.
You know?

Speaker 1 No, she's not. Okay, let's get going.
So here we are, Heather's yacht trip, day three.

Speaker 1 Daisy is doing her normal intense thing where she's way too intense walking around as the chiefs do, like with her

Speaker 1 radio, where she's like, okay, okay, Captain, all right, Captain Jason, all right, everybody, we're doing it, we're doing it right now. All right, listen, 10 o'clock is breakfast, 11 o'clock is yoga.

Speaker 1 We've got it, have we got it? Have we got it? Is everybody there? Daisy, calm down.

Speaker 1 The first thing in the morning, she's like fiddling with her thing while she's talking to the president of the Secret Service, President of the United States. Calm down.

Speaker 1 For Christ's sake. The eagle has landed.
It's like an actual eagle. She's actually like bringing in an actual eagle.
We do everything on a yacht. No question is too big.

Speaker 1 So Heather is like, so doing this yoga.

Speaker 1 And Heather's like, luxury to me generally doesn't include athleisure, but this is a yoga session in a sisterhood that I could really get behind, if you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 Behind, like I would be behind. It's sort of weird.
I guess in this analogy, I would be, I guess, tagging Captain Jason. I don't know.
It gets kinky. It gets wild.

Speaker 1 So he tells us to breathe and we're going to breathe. He tells us to bend and we're going to bend.
He tells us to dive deep into the world of Mormonism and trying to save people.

Speaker 1 And god damn it, I will have a surviving Mormonism spin-off. It will happen.

Speaker 1 I'm excited to see his downward dog. I'm hoping he'll warrior all the way over to me and inside of me and through me because I've totally fucked Captain Jason.
Shut up, Heather.

Speaker 1 Okay, so Heather was on. Heather was on Watch What Happens Live.
And Andy's like, okay, well, well, Andy, so is Andy.

Speaker 1 So he's like, well, Heather, we just had Captain Jason on and he said that he did not sleep with you. And she's like, what?

Speaker 1 He said that? I can't believe it. Well, I guess that should be a warning to whoever hooks up with Captain Jason that this is how he's going to deny it on TV.

Speaker 1 And so Andy goes, so what did you do with Captain Jason? She's like, nothing.

Speaker 1 But, but um you know she's just so heather she's like nothing except we did go on you know we were doing press together and he did guide us through the outback you know

Speaker 1 guided us through lots of different experiences

Speaker 1 So it's a typical Heather thing where she's insinuating something and claiming another thing. It's Heather and her black lie, her black eye lie over and over again on this show.

Speaker 1 And for anybody who falls for anything that Heather says, says, you're crazy. Have you seen the show?

Speaker 1 This woman does nothing but fucking lie every season, all season, but she does it with a big shitty eating grin on her face. And everybody believes everything that she says.

Speaker 1 Do you think that she fucked Captain Jason? What do you think? No, I don't think so. Also, raise your hand if you're the person in America who cares if they did.
Like, who is tracking?

Speaker 1 this rumor who is like waiting with bated breath to find out more juicy details like i don't if they did I don't care. I don't think they did.
And I still don't care. Like, I just like why?

Speaker 1 I feel like she's trying to drum this up, but like, I don't really see her. I don't really see her getting with Captain Jason, quite frankly.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and it's not like she's not good enough or it's not anything like that. It's just the way she tells these stories.
You know, it's the insinuation and the wink to the audience. Like, maybe I did.

Speaker 1 Maybe I didn't. I don't care.

Speaker 1 Stop talking about it and stop asking her about it. I'll bet that's going to be a big thing all weekend.
Like, did they or didn't they? I don't care.

Speaker 1 This is a girl I used to know out here who was like,

Speaker 1 you know, she was,

Speaker 1 she was not very attractive. I'm going to say this right.
I have to, I feel like it's part of the story. She's not that attractive.

Speaker 1 And every time you saw her, she was always talking about a bartender who was like totally into her. She's like, oh my God.
I was just at Draco downtown.

Speaker 1 Matt, yeah, he's like one of the chief like bartender.

Speaker 1 He's totally into me and I'm like okay unprofessional and she would always say this and I'm not saying that a guy wouldn't be into it unprofessional just pour my drink

Speaker 1 but she was always saying that and and by the way I'm not saying I'm not implying that heather is unattractive I'm saying that like

Speaker 1 this I was like we know you're just you're you're you're telling this we know this isn't true and you keep on telling these stories like like you don't have to do this and now I feel back now I feel like I've made it sound like I'm saying that.

Speaker 1 I feel like I'm calling Heather like out of Captain Jason's league. And I'm not doing that at all.
I'm just saying it's like sometimes you can tell.

Speaker 1 You can tell when someone's just sort of like whipping up a story and it's like

Speaker 1 not like we know you're not telling the truth and we don't even really care either way. So why are you doing this to yourself? Yeah, like obviously it's not looks.

Speaker 1 I mean, Heather's a good-looking woman. I mean, she's on a TV show being a good-looking woman.
I mean, it's not, that's not even

Speaker 1 hard amazing. But her personality is a girl who's always trying to fit in.
She's always, you know, trying to be with the popular, the cool kids, you know, like the cool.

Speaker 1 Here I am at the cool kids' table.

Speaker 1 You know, she's always trying to tell some story that includes her in that. And it's just so cringy.
It's always been part of her personality.

Speaker 1 But, oh, and even if you did bang Captain Jason, who does that? Captain Jason's fucked like 30 people on Bravo. Everybody knows he's a man whore, you know, like, so I wouldn't doubt it in that way.

Speaker 1 But the thing is, like, even if you are fucking, who does that? Just like,

Speaker 1 be quiet. Mm-hmm.
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Speaker 1 so they're doing yoga and Heather is asking Brittany how she feels. And she's like, well, I feel a bit sunburnt and I feel whiplash if that's what you're asking.

Speaker 1 You know, it's just hard, Heather, to answer your question because I don't know,

Speaker 1 it's just disproportionate. The amount of pylon I get for doing the exact same thing as everyone else, you know, recording everyone behind their backs.

Speaker 1 perpetually lying, boring everyone with the nonsense about Jared. I just get so much pylon for that.
And everyone does the same thing.

Speaker 1 Yeah, which, of course, I yelled at the TV. You just brought up someone's someone's husband having an affair from a TikTok, you fucking ding-dong.
And then Heather called her out on it.

Speaker 1 She's like, Yeah, but

Speaker 1 you just called someone out for their husband having an affair. It's not really the same thing, you know.
So we see a shot of Meredith and Lisa in their bedroom last night talking.

Speaker 1 And Meredith is like, Oh,

Speaker 1 she is disgusting,

Speaker 1 really, truly, truly, really disgusting.

Speaker 1 for whatever reason, Lisa is like

Speaker 1 she's somehow like reversed.

Speaker 1 Lisa, Lisa Barlow is,

Speaker 1 she is like, somehow,

Speaker 1 she's somehow like rotate, turned around on the bed, like her feet are up by the pillow, her head is down. I was like, what happened to Lisa Barlow?

Speaker 1 And why are your dirty feet on your pillow right now? Sarah Meredith is like, I mean, Brittany, I mean, she thinks it's really cute and funny, and she thinks she's a Disney princess.

Speaker 1 And you know what? She has the brain aptitude of one. That's right.
Princess Jasmine, don't act me. I think you're dumb.
And same goes to the corner. I was kind of offended.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I was kind of offended too. I was like, excuse me, Belle did nothing but read books.
The little mermaid may not have been the brightest, but she had a nice voice.

Speaker 1 You know, Sleeping Beauty took a lot of naps. I mean, she must have had a Kindle.
She slept all the way through high school. So I'm sorry.
She's just not the brightest. She does not have brain cells.

Speaker 1 Let me tell you something about Cinderella. If she had brain cells, she would have gotten out of that fireplace many years before.
My rest my case,

Speaker 1 smart people don't wear glass shoes.

Speaker 1 So she goes, well, who was the person in Wizard of Oz who they were just like, someone was missing their brain? That's That's who it is.

Speaker 1 I'm like, you can't call people stupid when you don't know who the Tin Man is.

Speaker 1 You know, someone at NBCU is getting fired. Like, you failed your wicked marketing integration with Salt Lake City, and she doesn't even know the Tin Man.

Speaker 1 I know someone over there is like, excuse me, this is wicked week on Bravo.

Speaker 1 I'm surprised that when she said, what's the, who is the one missing their brain that they didn't plug in Cynthia Rivo going, it's me.

Speaker 1 There should have been more wicked stuff woven into this. Somehow, like a defying gravity or a

Speaker 1 just defying graph, just defying gravity, just different duets throughout the episode. But the person missing their brain, that was the 10 man.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I know him. He's been to Vita.
He's been with the Tequiva Lounge.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's why I couldn't go on like the opening drop because I was like, oh, Tinman. Well,

Speaker 1 she could be a Latin woman. Anyone? All right.
Well, you know, and Whitney, she doesn't even bring this to me. She doesn't shut it down.
She doesn't have a problem with it. She's not my friend.

Speaker 1 Suddenly, Meredith is very concerned about people not shutting things down, which is hilarious.

Speaker 1 So back up at yoga, Brittany is like, you know, I say something that I think is nice with good intentions. And it's this big freak out pylon.

Speaker 1 I mean, I think everyone knows it's like the classic Hallmark greeting card, which is, happy birthday. TikTok says your husband's cheating on you.
Like, I don't get it.

Speaker 1 your husband was something fucking somebody in a newber what do you want from me it was just trying to be nice

Speaker 1 um well

Speaker 1 pylon

Speaker 1 i think you need to be prepared for a mountain of shit when you tell tell a woman in the sisterhood at dinner that her husband is cheating based on a tick tock

Speaker 1 and whitney's like you're ruining my zen

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 downstairs, Ron Wynn knocks on Meredith's door and she's holding the unicorn, which I believe is the unicorn just called uni.

Speaker 1 they really are not i mean they keep they're calling it uni but i just want to point out that poor brittany like she cannot get any respect even by the crew on this boat because they're all doing yoga and she's the only one without a match she's like doing it straight on the

Speaker 1 captain jason has to bring it over and she still has like her markings on from i think her zombie makeup last night so she just like looks crazy her weaves a mess i mean she just looks poor thing she really she is more scarecrow than tin man she just looks she's like all of them she's she's like the entire cast of the supporting characters she's the lion she's the scarecrow she's the tin man she's maybe even a poppy

Speaker 1 i mean she's she may be a brick from the road you know

Speaker 1 she's the one that was crushed under a house she's all of them she's a munchkin

Speaker 1 she's the cow and the tornado flying by

Speaker 1 she's the whole gang um

Speaker 1 so brawl's like meredith

Speaker 1 i come bearing gifts i've got you need need unicorn. She goes, oh, well, that's a gift I can do without Broadway.

Speaker 1 And I hate to be like ungrateful and gracious for it, but you may not realize it, but I'm having a fight right now. And I'm talking it out with Lisa.

Speaker 1 Oh, well, no, this is, um, it's actually more of like a sacrifice.

Speaker 1 Oh, a sacrifice. Oh, in that case, come on in.
Entree vouch. Oh, tell me more.

Speaker 1 I love a sacrifice.

Speaker 1 And so she's like, well, first of all, are you okay? Are you okay, Meredith? Are you okay? Let's nod together. I'm like, oh, God, here we go with two bobbleheads in one room, one scene.

Speaker 1 This is going to be a lot of different nodding because Rommans is like, mm-hmm, mm-hmm. And Meredith is like,

Speaker 1 so

Speaker 1 she's like, so are you okay, Meredith? And Meredith is like, well, what am I worried about? Someone with a brain the size of a pea?

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 not really.

Speaker 1 Not really. No, like, come on, come on.

Speaker 1 Pea-size brain. And by that, I mean the vegetable pea, not an actual letter P.

Speaker 1 We're still working on our letters with my toddler, so we only talk about things that get mashed up and put in his mouth.

Speaker 1 So Bronwyn says, Well, I have, you know, I've told her so many times, Meredith, don't start stuff. And she says, Meredith overreacted again.
And another example of her going zero to 100.

Speaker 1 And I was like, Well, you put yourself in that position,

Speaker 1 or rather, you vented to me, and then I put you in that position.

Speaker 1 And you came to her with this. This was you.

Speaker 1 Well, no, when I see a woman who's who's filled with hate, especially if she's got a little metal funnel on her head, tan woman, hashtag, coming after me over and over again, I'm going to respond.

Speaker 1 And she can take her own hate and shove it up her, you know, what. You know what I'm saying about her what? She can shove that up her P,

Speaker 1 which is not the letter P or.

Speaker 1 The vegetable P.

Speaker 1 You decide what P I mean.

Speaker 1 Now, Bronwyn's saying, yeah, I've told her, don't start stuff. You know, she's like, you were the one who started all of this, Bronwyn, on purpose.

Speaker 1 You started a fight with Meredith and Brittany on purpose. And now she's like, I'm just trying to help Brittany.

Speaker 1 The people on this show are so fucking full of shit. And it cracks me up.
Each and every one of them is so fucking funny with this. Like, I'm just trying to help her.

Speaker 1 Look at me, sweet old Bronwyn, telling her, stop starting stuff. You started it.

Speaker 1 So Bronwyn is like, okay, well um do you want to shove something somewhere because i've got the unicorn and well what do you have in mind

Speaker 1 well i don't know meredith uh this is sort of weird is this our first conversation we've ever had together perhaps

Speaker 1 well i feel like this is a bad idea but i don't know well do you you think that you need floats did you say i want to swim

Speaker 1 it's like no one will ever ever love you like me love jared cousin of donny osmond She keeps pressing the button. Robin's like, oh my God, this is so evil.
Should we do it? Let's throw uni.

Speaker 1 Let's get rid of uni. Let's do it.

Speaker 1 And so they decide that they're going to put on wacky outfits, inflatable outfits, and go throw the unicorn overboard. I think this is very mean.
I don't like it.

Speaker 1 I mean, I know it's housewives and, you know, they do shitty stuff, but this is like someone's property. And this, you know, you're talking about Brittany.

Speaker 1 She's got the mental aptitude of a 13-year-old. And you can't just take a 13-year-old's toys and throw them overboard.
That's not cool. You can't dispose of it.

Speaker 1 It's littering. And it's also littering.
Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 1 Like, you know, Ariel, talk about hello, Disney Princess. Ariel's right there.
And like, you're throwing shit into her house. And that's just not nice.
I mean, she would love it.

Speaker 1 She literally would love it. She'd be like, oh my God, it's a WhatsApp called.

Speaker 1 But don't do that. It's not nice.
She's like brushing her hair with it.

Speaker 1 It's like, if you do

Speaker 1 the

Speaker 1 This would ruin the little the little mermaid because then she would be pining for Jared Osmond.

Speaker 1 Ariel would be his perfect wife, just says nothing and looks pretty.

Speaker 1 Ariel, yeah, she can't speak. It's like his perfect one, his perfect.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 also, if you're going to be a mean girl, don't do it in an inflatable costume. Like you already had your inflatable costume moment and poor Angie, you just destroyed her finger.

Speaker 1 There's one point in the episode where Angie's talking, and we see her bandage. There's like blood spots.
It's like it's still bleeding. It's like orange and it's like discolored.

Speaker 1 I was like, this lady needs to go to a hospital. That finger is like disintegrating.
It's infested. There's

Speaker 1 crawling all over it. Yeah, let's not do it.
So Meredith is like, well, I guess I can't throw Brittany overboard, but I can throw you.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 goodbye, youngie.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so

Speaker 1 Meredith and Bromwyn, they're getting dressed as like a pink shark and a lobster. And Meredith is like putting on her inflatable costume.
And then like sort of midway through, she's like, what am I?

Speaker 1 What am I supposed to do? This isn't couture. Wow, this is, this is the craziest thing I've ever worn.
Now, someone find me my bejeweled mask. Thank you.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so they go out and they throw it overboard. Okay.
They get rid of it. And we see Jared's voice.
We We hear Jared's voice in the water like, good night, baby. You are love.

Speaker 1 So now it's breakfast. And you know, because Daisy's on her radio going like, all right, it's breakfast.
They're all sat. I need everybody up here for breakfast.

Speaker 1 Have the croissants risen because I gotta serve them.

Speaker 1 So everyone gets up to the table and when he's like, everyone is quiet. Is everyone tired? And then everyone's still quiet.
Okay. Meredith, how's your toe?

Speaker 1 Well, it's sore. I think I'm going to have to see a doctor when I get back.
Thanks for asking. Surprised you were able to string together two syllables with your pea-sized brain.

Speaker 1 But I'm a survivor. I'm not going to give up.
I'm a survivor. Keep on surviving.
All right.

Speaker 1 And I'm strong. I can deal with a lot of hatred being thrown at me.
So I can deal with it. Trevor Projects.

Speaker 1 Love you, mean it. Call me.
Can't bring me down.

Speaker 1 Who's Trevor? Is he single? Um, by the way, I have a hard time with hatred, actually. I have a hard time.

Speaker 1 Well, you're filled with it, Brittany. Well, who says I'm filled with hatred? Well, no, we're not going to go there.
Whitney, Brittany, Brittany, Whitney.

Speaker 1 I don't know which one of you guys is talking to me, but I've decided that right now I'm mad at Whitney. So I'm just going to rotate my chair and pay

Speaker 1 Brittany. No mind.
Now, this is hilarious. You're filled with hatred.
That's like an Eclair complaining about being filled with cream. No, Eclair hates cream.

Speaker 1 What people don't realize about the tin man is that, yes, he doesn't have a brain, but he's filled with hatred. He's the most hateful character in the entire Wizard of Oz.

Speaker 1 What were you going to say about Whitney? I want to say that. Oh, I was just going to say, I love chocolate eclairs.
Sorry. Please, I think chocolate clairs always get the right of way.

Speaker 1 Like, that's like, always stop everything to talk about chocolate clairs.

Speaker 1 Somewhere in the, in the middle of this, Meredith kind of like rotates away from Britney because, of course, she's sitting right next to Brittany.

Speaker 1 I don't know if the producers are like assigning the seats, but they keep on sticking the two of them right next to each other the entire trip.

Speaker 1 So now Meredith is like turned away and she has her kind of back towards Britney. And it is so.
funny.

Speaker 1 At this point, it's like very funny to me because this is before we get to the darkness of the flight.

Speaker 1 But like the way that she, she's just, I see how Brittany, it is very mean, but it's also so Meredith Marshall like, I'm not gonna knock

Speaker 1 twin, that's behind me. I was just cracking up and Brittany's just trying to say stuff.
And she's like, I can't, I can't even get through to her.

Speaker 1 This is like the entire scene as Meredith is talking, Brittany's just like in the background doing running commentary. I was like, this is a good thing.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and Brittany's trying to have a scene too, but Meredith will not give it to her. She's just giving her her back.
I mean, look, I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it is mean, but what do you think is going to happen when you do that? I mean, this is a show.

Speaker 1 Everybody knows you bring up someone's husband is fucking somebody else, which I think it's happened to 90% of this cast by now.

Speaker 1 You're allowed to get mad and turn your back on someone. So, so far in the episode, I'm with you.
I'm like, yay.

Speaker 1 Well, and also because Brittany is.

Speaker 1 One of Brittany's problems is that she's trying to frame it like she was doing a good deed. She's like, she's trying to do what Heather did to Lisa.
She's like, no, it was a really nice thing.

Speaker 1 I brought it up so that way she could talk about it. No, Brittany, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 Right. So, um, so yeah, she turns her back to her and Brittany's like, well, I mean, who would even say that I'm filled with hatred? That's just ridiculous.

Speaker 1 And so Meredith is like, we're not going there. We're not going there.
Okay. Whitney, Brittany, Brittany, Whitney.

Speaker 1 So she turns to Whitney. She turns on Whitney.
She's like, my problem is with Whitney with me. Call what?

Speaker 1 It's not surprising. This little pea brain behind me, I barely know.
But however, what?

Speaker 1 Can I say I literally, can I just say like one thing that I literally suck? Can I just say like one thing right here? No, she doesn't even know how to stop talking. She's gotta stop talking.

Speaker 1 I'm a hater. I'm a pea brain hater.
I love peas. They're a delicious legume.

Speaker 1 But what are you mad about that I talked about it? Wait, are you mad that I talked about it? And then we see a flashback to one day earlier where Whitney sees the TikTok with Britney.

Speaker 1 And Meredith is like, well, the problem is that we spent the last few days as a group agreeing that you were the one who really led the campaign, Whitney.

Speaker 1 I mean, is this a headline or is this some little troll on the internet that's like no one has ever seen? Why do the lines keep changing?

Speaker 1 Don't throw Whitney under the bus. Don't do that.
That's not nice. Don't throw her under the bus.
No,

Speaker 1 shut up. I don't even hear anybody behind me.
I'm not talking to you. Just told her under the bus.
That's all I'm saying. Just, okay, just be mad at me.
That's fine. Just be mad at me.

Speaker 1 You know, it's fine. I'm just going to sit here like a princess.
But wait, you don't have to say anything, Brittany. I've got this.
This is easy for me to clear up with her.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, she doesn't even exist. My point is, you co-signed it, and you didn't tell me.
And that is not what a friend wants. She did not co-sign it.
I'm sorry it looks that way.

Speaker 1 I told Brittany you have three choices. First, paper.
Second, plastic. Third, bring a box from home.
And then you can carry it whatever. Wait.
Oh, about this? Okay. What's it yesterday?

Speaker 1 You have three choices. UPS drop-off center, Whole Foods, where you'll have to bring your own box and

Speaker 1 label. or pick up which costs $6.99.

Speaker 1 Oh, wait, no. Three choices.

Speaker 1 Grande,

Speaker 1 tall,

Speaker 1 venti. I guess there's Trentis.
That's four choices. Can we start over?

Speaker 1 But you either didn't say it, you didn't acknowledge it, or you don't acknowledge it. But either you tell Meredith or I tell Meredith.
She goes, oh, so that way you were trying to do the best thing.

Speaker 1 You were trying to do the right thing to the best of your capacity. Okay, trying to play a friend about giving her a chance to come clean on her her own because she's a gossip behind my back.
Just

Speaker 1 exposition all of a sudden.

Speaker 1 She's like, I know what she's doing.

Speaker 1 I'm just going to speed this up for you, Whitney. Yeah, yeah, because I wanted to give her the chance to do the right thing.
Just like Spoke Lee.

Speaker 1 You know, the TikTok was nothing, but Meredith's reaction is making it a huge thing now. She's pouring fire on the gasoline.
No, she's fine fire. She's pouring gasoline on the deck.
No, gasoline.

Speaker 1 You get it.

Speaker 1 And so Brittany's like, well, but it's a double standard that anybody can say all kinds of stuff about people's husbands. And I say one thing that's meant to be in kindness.

Speaker 1 Well, first of all, no one said anything about you or your, I mean, they say things that Brittany's,

Speaker 1 your boyfriend's a loser, but only because.

Speaker 1 You tell them like you break up with him every week. They're trying to support you.
That's them being kind.

Speaker 1 But nobody's come out with any gossip about brittany and there's plenty no one's come out at her about her kid or anything like that in a mean way at least oh well here comes the liar bravo bravo that's actually a pun you're welcome everyone so then uh daisy and because in the middle of this um Alicia like serves some dishes and she goes back downstairs.

Speaker 1 She tells Daisy, they're literally so, they're honestly so noisy. They're the loudest people I've ever met in my life.
I would hate to be hung over around them.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so back at the table, Brittany's like, this is ridiculous. You guys, this is Meredith.
Ha ha ha. Ba, ba, ba.
And she's like kind of imitating her and bumping into Meredith.

Speaker 1 And she goes, if you touch me,

Speaker 1 meanwhile, Meredith has flicked her hair over her shoulder into Britney's face like five times. And Brittany does it like once.
Meredith says,

Speaker 1 Don't you dare touch me. Do not touch me.

Speaker 1 So now they're pointing at each other. And she's like, like, you touched me.
You did this to me. You're flipping hair at me.
So they're pointing at each other.

Speaker 1 And Brahma's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, Britney. No, no, no, no, no.
She's trying to stop her.

Speaker 1 And so Whitney offers to switch seats with Meredith, which is nice, and which would have been nice if this were extended later on in the episode on an airplane.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I have my exact same thought, by the way. Why did no one switch seats with Britney? Yeah, they're like, we feel so bad for her.
So we left her. You know, it's like, what the hell?

Speaker 1 So Whitney offers to switch seats. So Meredith is like, well, I think that would be a wise idea because I don't need to be near people who are filled with hate.
That disgusts me.

Speaker 1 You're filled with hate. You can go from zero to 100 in 0.2 seconds.
Yes, I can. I can.
And I don't like people who are filled with hate. Everybody at this table knows that.

Speaker 1 So Brittany is like, yeah, but like, and you, yeah, and only someone who's filled with hate can do that, can go, can get really angry so quickly.

Speaker 1 and at this point bromwyn who just threw out this girl's unicorn into the ocean is now like gathering brittany in a comforting way like no no stop stop stop she's trying to be like comforting like a like a buddy she's like i'm trying to help you take a deep breath because it's gonna get worse for you later in the episode so this is nothing just take a take a deep breath Yeah, Bromwyn is pulling a heather here, acting like she's just being nice to Brittany this whole time.

Speaker 1 She's like, look, I'm just trying to help you, even though I started this whole fight for you yesterday and got Meredith on you. But she's acting like Brittany's Brittany's the one doing too much.

Speaker 1 Brittany is not the one doing too much. Meredith is the one doing too much.
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Speaker 1 so brown's like i'm trying to tell her to start with an apology well i am done with her and you guys want to support her then i'll be done with you too and heather goes are you kidding me in this sisterhood you would say that yeah well no i'm not no i'm not yes i yeah yeah yes you can't just just say yeah no i'm not because those are contradictory words

Speaker 1 heather meredith i can't even say my name properly this is absurd this is not fourth grade this is not a dodgeball team this is a sisterhood of people who are surviving mormonism and for meredith to be okay and to move from on from lisa digging up dirt about her family she can apply the same spirit of resolution to her conflict with brittany or alternatively she can get mad at lisa like the rest of us can because we're doing the hard work in the trenches right now okay heather so this is not a dodgeball team.

Speaker 1 So she's mad because she's saying, if you're going to be friends with her, I'm not going to be friends with you. Well, first of all, Heather does this all the time.
She does it with people.

Speaker 1 She's doing it with Monica currently, which I'm sure Monica could be like, you know, with that, she could be like, She stalked us, she blah, blah, blah. You know, what she goes off on.

Speaker 1 But she was also like that with us. Like, you better not nominate her for a thing or whatever.
So you're kind of a hypocrite.

Speaker 1 And then for her to say, Meredith is okay, that Lisa dug up dirt about her family. What dirt? That was never proven.
This is another Heather.

Speaker 1 That was never proven that she said she dug dirt up on Meredith. Where do we have proof? And what is the dirt then? If there's dirt?

Speaker 1 So I don't like that being thrown in there into evidence because that's totally unproven. And it's just another case of Heather saying something over and over until people believe it.

Speaker 1 So then Angie's like, well,

Speaker 1 I'm not supporting what she did, but I need to remind everyone. And Meredith's like, well, because we spent two days saying we're not doing that, didn't we?

Speaker 1 We just said we're not going to go on ticky talkie and bring up things that are people sometimes and then she's doing it. So you're all fine with that? Then you're all fine with it.

Speaker 1 No, I just meant to say we need to remind someone to find a doctor for me. I think I have developed gangrene in my finger, as we call it, gangrease.

Speaker 1 Of course we don't support her showing us a TikTok.

Speaker 1 You know, Angie's dying of gangrease. No one cares.
I just wanted to acknowledge that you said gangrease because that was actually hysterical.

Speaker 1 Angie's like, well, we can't support Gout Dick. And Meredith is like, well, break the cycle.
And you know what? This one, this one leads a bad example.

Speaker 1 And please stop singing K-pop demon hunters on TikTok. It's extremely disturbing to my ears.
Have you seen that? Britney being like,

Speaker 1 because we're golden. And the sunlight.

Speaker 1 So Heather is

Speaker 1 just Saigon. I don't want to hear your K-pop demon hunters crap.
Keep it to yourself. Heather, I disagree.
I would love.

Speaker 1 love listening to her sing her semi like faux opera semi-show tune

Speaker 1 So are we just going to throw Brittany overboard? I am. I will gladly do that.
Well, I'm a good swimmer, so throw me overboard. It's hot in here.

Speaker 1 Prabhu's like, Mary,

Speaker 1 can you say something as like a mother or a woman of God here? Can you fix this, please? It's just like,

Speaker 1 they're not going to listen. They're not going to listen to God.
They're not going to listen to anyone. If God came down and smacked them in their face, they wouldn't even snap out of it.

Speaker 1 They're so busy trying to get their point across. And it's a disaster.
It's just a disaster.

Speaker 1 No, no.

Speaker 1 Okay, well, while you guys take a break and fighting, I'm going to go change and get packed so we can get off the boat. And Whitney's like, I love my friends.
So they all go change.

Speaker 1 And Brittany is looking around her room packing. And she's like, where's my unicorn? Where is it?

Speaker 1 I know. This is.
I feel just bad for Britney's daughter because I feel like Brittany

Speaker 1 seemed to show more emotion about trying to find her unicorn than finding her daughter. So Angie is like,

Speaker 1 she's telling the deck. And she's like, I'm going to miss your hat, your legs.
Remember when I clutched onto them and puked all over them? That was hilarious.

Speaker 1 And then Bromwyn is like, the best part about leaving this vacation is the knowledge of knowing I won't be traveling with these women because I changed my original flight and didn't fly with them.

Speaker 1 And I had to rebook everything, including my flights home. So I picked one where I would be solo.
So it's almost like I knew I'd be sick of them at this point in time. But you know what?

Speaker 1 The irony is, I wonder if she had stayed on her flight, if she would have been seated next to Brittany and could have saved her, since apparently no one else was willing to do that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And also, if you cancel one flight, you don't cancel both flights. I don't understand why she would have had to rebook her flight.
Is that something I'm going to do? I don't know. It may

Speaker 1 have, maybe the round trip. I don't know.
Sometimes things are weird.

Speaker 1 It's like, you know, if you have a layover, like you cancel the first leg, or if you miss the first leg, you lose both legs, even if you take another flight to catch up with the second leg.

Speaker 1 You know, guys. I don't know.
It sounded like an excuse to me, but I was like, I would do it too. You know, I actually chuckled.

Speaker 1 I don't know why I chuckled, but when she said that, I chuckled like, ha ha ha, that's so true. I was like, speak the truth, sister.
And I drank some more red wine.

Speaker 1 Some more red wine? Were you really sitting there drinking red wine? No, I just, I'm like, I felt like I, I felt like I was in Cougar Town watching the TV, being like, oh, that's so true. I love that.

Speaker 1 But first coffee, am I right?

Speaker 1 So now everybody, it's the goodbye section of below deck. Everyone's saying bye.
Meredith gives Jason her hat.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 so basically, thanks him, whatever. They leave the tip.
So then Heather gives her speech and she's like, guys, this has been so amazing being around so many people on our journey of sisterhood.

Speaker 1 They're like, oh, God, the boat's pulling away. Because we're sis.

Speaker 1 And she's like, and you know what? I do want to apologize on behalf of my friends. So there, Christina Applegate, are you happy? Are you happy? She apologized.
Can we all move on?

Speaker 1 Steve Applegate is at home. Like, I told those bitches.

Speaker 1 She's also

Speaker 1 drinking her red wine.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 now Brittany is like, oh my God, I can't believe it.

Speaker 1 Oh, Brittany's, Daisy's like, oh, I forgot something. Everybody, stop.
Stop. Don't get onto your bus.
I've got something inside for you. So she runs inside and she comes back out holding the unicorn.

Speaker 1 And Brittany's like, wait a minute. I thought that was gone.
I thought it was lost. Wait a minute.
Why is this wet? And she's like, well, it was in the water. We found it in the water.

Speaker 1 I was sort of hoping that Daisy would be like, I forgot something. Hold on.
And she just comes out wheeling out Gary like Hannibal Lecter in a straight jacket.

Speaker 1 I've been in Bravo jail, but I'm back.

Speaker 1 Father beans.

Speaker 1 But Brittany looks genuinely crestfallen.

Speaker 1 I actually, I'm not going to lie, the unicorn was so stupid, but when she gets and she realizes it's wet and that they threw it in the water, there was something about like her, the way her face dropped, like her face drops a lot on the show, but the way it dropped this time was

Speaker 1 like a weird, I felt like I I saw her as a child. And I don't know, like my heart kind of broke for her in this moment.
I was like, yes, this was all kind of like, you know, it was a little produced.

Speaker 1 Like, okay, everyone, like, have Brittany bring a unicorn on the boat and then you guys throw it out like later. But there was something where I feel like she just,

Speaker 1 she realized she was the butt of like a big joke. And I don't know, I felt bad for her.

Speaker 1 I mean, I wouldn't say my heart broke for her, but yeah, I felt, I mean, I feel kind of bad for Britney, but, you know, she starts it too. She starts it.

Speaker 1 She just starts these wrong fights with these people. And

Speaker 1 I don't know, you know, if you're going to go against, I have to compare it to kind of Angie because, you know, Angie was in the same position. When she came home, nobody, nobody gave her any mind.

Speaker 1 They all made fun of her. They all treated her like a big joke.
Meredith, especially, wouldn't speak to her.

Speaker 1 She was doing the same thing she's doing to Brittany now, where she was turning her back on her.

Speaker 1 And, you know, she was just treating her like shit and mingirling her really hard. And Angie.
So I think, of course,

Speaker 1 I thought you were going to say how Jensha literally threw her shoes in the water off of a boat as well. She did that as well.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mostly edit Jen out of my memory as much as I can because she always made me crazy. But

Speaker 1 yeah, but Meredith was really particularly mean to Angie. But then Angie, didn't Angie start some stuff with Meredith about Meredith's husband cheating? I don't even remember what it was.

Speaker 1 I mean, Angie came in hot on Meredith, but

Speaker 1 by the way, I felt bad for Angie. When it happened to Angie on that episode, too, I felt even worse when Jensha, like

Speaker 1 you know spilled a glass not poured a glass of champagne on angie's head just to humiliate her because she needed to fill some dead air and now that we all know and love angie kay it's actually even more horrifying because we know like what we know who angie k is

Speaker 1 meaning that like as an aunt is horrifying

Speaker 1 it's horrible horrifying i listen i love me meredith some meredith marks one of my favorite aunts households of all time

Speaker 1 i know you're not saying that and i think that britney is one of the biggest dingbats of all time But regardless of those feelings, I just felt really bad. I thought the uniform was so stupid.

Speaker 1 Well, I guess my point is, like, she was doing this to, she was doing this. We've seen Meredith do this before, right? So we've seen her do it to Angie.

Speaker 1 And Angie's way of dealing with it kind of made her a star of the show. Angie was like, no, fuck you.

Speaker 1 And she would come up right behind her and still yell right behind her and then try and get in her face again and then call her a trampoline with eyes. And then like she was not taking it.

Speaker 1 And she really stood up and she was really strong and made, that made her season, you know, I mean, that made her a housewife.

Speaker 1 That all of this bullying was terrible that Meredith did, but then it also, it also turned Angie into like a bona fide housewife, right?

Speaker 1 So I'm only comparing that because how Brittany's dealing with it is just not going to, it's not going to work. You know, she's really got to stand up to Meredith.

Speaker 1 Now, Brittany did start it just like I think Angie started it. But if you're going to start it and you're going to go up against the big dogs, you have to

Speaker 1 be bad for you. You know what I mean? It's a sport.
So I'm not going to sit here on the sidelines and cry for you. This is a sport.
You were the one who started this play.

Speaker 1 And if you can't finish the play, get the fuck off the field. You started it.

Speaker 1 I agree. I think that Brittany is very inept.
as a housewife, as a fight starter, because she sort of starts them and she doesn't really know how, like, she's not ready to go to war.

Speaker 1 She kind of like, she casts the first stone but then she's really bad at like holding her own and that's sort of been kind of her charm and everything but you really see here like she just doesn't she's she's just she doesn't have what it takes to really get in the mix and that's why she is basically i think a friend of she and i think she her role as a friend of is good like that's her lane but like you said angie you know like you know attack dog comes out not calling women dogs i'm just using the metaphor of like you know or mama bear mama bear is a better work better phrase for it.

Speaker 1 But, um, but Brittany just sort of crumbles.

Speaker 1 But like, it's, it's because, and it's like, it's her inability to actually do what Angie was able to do or other people have been able to do, which actually makes me, my heart break for her a little bit.

Speaker 1 She's just like,

Speaker 1 she's so limited. And I feel bad for her because of that.
She's limited. But yeah, you know, it's not.
And I'm not talking even at the plane yet because we're not even there yet.

Speaker 1 But at this point, I'm just like, Brittany, girl, if you can't, you know, I think throwing the unicorn overboard was too much and i do think meredith is taking this all and always does take it way too far but

Speaker 1 don't start it don't start it with the big people if you can't take it brittany you know don't do it so anyway so they go off the boat and britney is now upset because someone threw the unicorn over so she's like you guys who threw this over who would do this and bron was just kind of slinking back you know like yeah

Speaker 1 she realizes that uh-oh this is not landing well. She's like, it was, it was a joke

Speaker 1 for, you weren't part of the joke, but it was a joke for us. And

Speaker 1 like, and Mara's, well, I was with Bronwyn. She's like, you were with Bronwyn? Yeah, Uni wanted to swim and, you know, you got Tanner and makeup all over him and you little dip in the ocean.

Speaker 1 That's it.

Speaker 1 I'm doubling down on the joke. Okay.
It's called Yes Ending Myself. And Bronwyn's like,

Speaker 1 yeah, it was supposed to just be a joke that made you laugh. I mean, you didn't know about it and you never saw the unicorn.
You never found it. so you couldn't laugh at it, but it was still a joke.

Speaker 1 We thought you'd laugh at it, you'd think it's hilarious. I just think it's really cruel, she tells us, I just think it's really cruel for someone to try to ruin my gift.

Speaker 1 I mean, Jared went to great lengths and made a personal message.

Speaker 1 And then at this point, I was like, okay, Brittany, you know, you have my sympathy, but like, this is where she always loses me because she just always feeds us some line of bullshit right afterwards.

Speaker 1 Like, I'm not going to great lengths.

Speaker 1 Of course, there's part of me that's just heartless. I mean, that's the biggest part of me, let's face it.
But the heartless part of me, me,

Speaker 1 was

Speaker 1 just watching this thinking, well, you know, that unicorn knows how your kid feels.

Speaker 1 So fuck off, you know, because there's part of me that's like not going to be okay with Brittany because of that shit with her kid. Like, I'm just not okay with it.
I'm not going to feel bad.

Speaker 1 And I'm so sorry for your unicorn, but now you know how your fucking kid feels. And there.
So there.

Speaker 1 Kind of. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So Maria. She's like, but he likes steamers.
Yuni likes steamers. How could you do this to uni? You remember liking steamers, don't you? I can never sleep without you, without you again, my darling.

Speaker 1 This is Jared Osmond, cousin of Donnie.

Speaker 1 Our steamer is loved. I am a soldier of love.
Doot, doot, do, do, do, do, do.

Speaker 1 By the way, that's a good banger. I feel like there's young people in this world.

Speaker 1 I feel like probably millennials, but especially Gen Z, who don't know that Donnie Osmond in 1988 or 89 released a true banger of a song called Soldier of Love.

Speaker 1 And if you don't know it, you should look it up and make it a thing on TikTok because it is a great song. It is really great.
It holds up to this day.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Donnie Osmond.
I mean, listen, Donnie Osmond's a fucking hero. And anybody who doesn't believe it needs to think about this.

Speaker 1 It was red and yellow and green and brown and scarlet and black and ochre and peach and ruby and violet and russet and fawn and lilac and gold and chocolate and mauve and green and oh darn it.

Speaker 1 Oh my God, did I forget the colors of the amazing Technicolor dream coat? No. Go, go, go, Ronnie, you know what they say.
Go, go, go, Ronnie. You'll make it someday.

Speaker 1 You and your lyrics be reunited at once. This is just a moment.
You'll get it again.

Speaker 1 It was red and yellow and green and brown and a scarlet. Oh my God.
Green and yellow. No, it was red and yellow and green and brown and scarlet and gold and russet and gray.

Speaker 1 Oh my God. I'm not being a gay person anymore.
Do I like vaginas now? I'm right.

Speaker 1 But we're going to Vegas, so you can experiment.

Speaker 1 That's also the musical that has a song. There are not a lot of songs about Bens.
There's a Michael Jackson song.

Speaker 1 So, you know, I appreciate having the pedigree of Michael Jackson, but it's a song about a rat. But we do have a song in Joseph that's about a Ben, and I appreciate that.

Speaker 1 That's like my one song that I have. Oh, no.
Yeah. Not he.

Speaker 1 How's it going?

Speaker 1 She goes, oh, no. It's a Calypso song.
Not he. Oh, yeah.
Benjamin.

Speaker 1 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, they're like trying, it's like all the brothers are being like, no, Benjamin's good, don't get mad at Benjamin, he didn't do this.

Speaker 1 Oh, I didn't know that's what that song was about. I don't remember, but now I'm going to put it on my playlist.
I'm going to jam to it. Yeah, jam to it.

Speaker 1 I saw the Michael Damien version on Broadway, so I didn't quite have a Donnie Osmond, but I do feel like I got a pretty big icon.

Speaker 1 Anyway,

Speaker 1 America is like, well, it was Bronwyn's idea.

Speaker 1 So Brittany's upset and walks away. So now it's ominous music, and we start getting the true crime dateline music.
Like, it was a town, a town that everybody loved.

Speaker 1 The most peaceful town in America. The sweetest couple you ever saw.
Everyone knew they were meant to be together the minute they saw them at the dance in high school.

Speaker 1 And then, like, 30 minutes later, he was beating her the whole time and then murdered her it's like okay you're misleading you are misleading me dateline person

Speaker 1 uh i was so surprised the screen faded to black and then all of a sudden i saw green and pink and i heard meredith marks singing no good deed goes on punish

Speaker 1 Lincoln for good in theaters and 10 days.

Speaker 1 Toddler for good happening right now.

Speaker 1 It is kind of funny how they tied this all in because Brittany's whole thing was like, I only brought that up because I was doing wicked for good.

Speaker 1 She was.

Speaker 1 And that unicorn defied gravity. I mean, just a lot's going on.
So much. So much.
No one mourns the

Speaker 1 stuffed animal in the ocean.

Speaker 1 And also, she couldn't be, you know, Brittany is having trouble with being popular. So you want to be popular.

Speaker 1 It's actually kind of all fitting into the musical.

Speaker 1 She is essentially Alpha.

Speaker 1 Oh, wow.

Speaker 1 Angie's finger is turning green. You got

Speaker 1 this episode is actually really on track. Yes.
It's wicked. Yeah.
Yes.

Speaker 1 So we get a classic. classic housewives trope which is cameras are down and everyone has to say what happened i thought this one was riveting personally.
Sometimes these aren't so good.

Speaker 1 Sometimes it's like, so we got into the production vans and she was drunk and she passed out and we got back to the hotel and we had to put her in her room and that was it.

Speaker 1 And you're like, oh, really? That's all, that's all. But this one was like, okay, before we even got on the plane, Meredith was completely out of her mind at the airport.

Speaker 1 I'm just imagining Meredith going into a Hudson News and knocking over a display of magazines. I'll tell you, you want to say print media is dead? Now it's dead.
And she stomped on it.

Speaker 1 Entertainment Weekly.

Speaker 1 Why do i still have to care about jennifer aniston and brad pat

Speaker 1 that's me in a hudson news i'm like why are you still on the covers why

Speaker 1 is there nothing to eat here beyond a brioche door or an old bomb pan come on nevis

Speaker 1 we're not even in nevis

Speaker 1 well we were all uncomfortable She was yelling and screaming and crying because Brittany talked about her marriage and she was making a scene at the airport and I don't even know that she was aware of that.

Speaker 1 Okay. Well, sounds like Meredith so far.

Speaker 1 And Brittany says, well, I was the last one on the plane in our group. And where's my seat? Literally right in front of Lisa and Meredith.
So then we hear

Speaker 1 departure and then like a wind chime in the back. The sound effects were hilarious.
It's like a wind chime and like a

Speaker 1 they needed to play the video of Yolanda.

Speaker 1 They needed to have the video of Yolanda coming out as a flight attendant singing that song remember when she did that video

Speaker 1 the classic song does juggie is dead

Speaker 1 um the dream team

Speaker 1 so then we see um the screen goes black and then we see we're seeing text messages and meredith texts heather i am livid and heather goes what happened now hashtag sisterhood so i slipped off into sleep and i was because that's what sisterhoods do we go to sleep when there's clearly a problem going on in the sisterhood and i was awoken awoken by Meredith raging and making a scene and she was just unhinged.

Speaker 1 I'm like,

Speaker 1 in retrospect, why did, like, really, why did you at this point not intervene? If you are so much like the

Speaker 1 steward of this

Speaker 1 sisterhood, why did you not mollify this?

Speaker 1 My first question when she said this line was, where are the stewardesses? You can't just have a fit.

Speaker 1 They'll tase you. They'll throw you off the plane.
I mean, I have TikTok too. I see these are my favorite scenes on TikTok.

Speaker 1 Well, I love fights in like waffle houses or things like that, like public, public restaurant fights where everybody just brawls. I love those.

Speaker 1 And I also love Karens on the plane who get kicked off of the plane. So I was like, wait, she was raging.

Speaker 1 Cause also you have to remember this is Heather speaking and Heather is always trying to make everything bigger than it is and blah, blah, blah. And I don't believe it unless I see proof.

Speaker 1 So I slipped off into sleep. Okay.
So you were asleep. That's the first thing in evidence, but I was awoken by Meredith raging.
Okay.

Speaker 1 So Mary says, Meredith started reliving what Brittany said, started getting upset, started going off, and she dwelled on it and dwelled on it, and she could not come back from it. I believe that 100%.

Speaker 1 So then we see texts from Whitney that say, Meredith is behind her, taunting her. She's fucking unhinged.
I believe this too. She was calling Britney names.

Speaker 1 She was talking loud about Britney so that the entire first class could hear. I believe that.

Speaker 1 I do have a hearing problem. Are you going to make fun of my ears?

Speaker 1 Yes. Well, that is true, though.
So she's talking loud. She does have a hearing aid, etc.
So you could say that. But here's my thing.
She's already been doing this the entire episode.

Speaker 1 So we already know Meredith is doing this. So I'm like, so basically it's a continuation of what she's been doing.
It's hard because this is a cast of unreliable narrators across the board. Thank you.

Speaker 1 Brittany is, she says, I mean, someone grabbed my seat and shook it like boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And wine splash and hair pulled.

Speaker 1 And I'm just like, I'm taking information because Brittany is one to embellish. Like, I would not be surprised.

Speaker 1 And this, I'm just saying from a perspective, like, I'm not saying this is necessarily my perspective.

Speaker 1 I would not be surprised if Meredith gets up and holds on the chair and some of her hand like catches Brittany's hair. She's like, you pulled my hair.

Speaker 1 I also would not be surprised if Meredith does shake the chair and grabs some of the hair. Like, I don't really know what to believe, honestly.

Speaker 1 And, and I'm just like listening to all these stories and I'm like this is crazy it's crazy I can believe that Meredith stood up to go to the bathroom and you know when you grab onto the chair in front of you which you don't really have to do in first class you literally never have to do it really anywhere I'm gonna say anywhere if you don't have to do it If, and this is not just to make excuses for Meredith or whatever.

Speaker 1 I don't need to make excuses for Meredith. I think she's acted like an asshole this whole episode, as I've said over and over.
But

Speaker 1 the way the other ladies are telling it is so over the top that I believe if Meredith was literally screaming and yelling and pulling someone's hair, she would have been kicked off the plane or at least told to stop it.

Speaker 1 Someone would have done something. I don't believe, I think if she got up behind her and grabbed her seat, she probably did do that a little bit.

Speaker 1 You know, she probably was like, oh, I'm going to give this bitch a little jostle for sure.

Speaker 1 I'm with you on this in the sense that like, it's shocking to me that there was no intervention, but I don't know. Is it different with business class? Is it different?

Speaker 1 Because they're celebrities and maybe the flight attendants are like, but we do hear stories of celebrities getting into trouble on airplanes.

Speaker 1 I think Alec Baldwin, Shocker, got into trouble on an airplane at one point. Like this does happen.
So it is surprising. But at the same time, I

Speaker 1 also,

Speaker 1 as unreliable as these women are as narrators, there's too many.

Speaker 1 too many stories that add up and the women seem genuinely rattled by it in a way that makes me say, but like there must be a truth that's in between here somewhere. Like something,

Speaker 1 something not cool definitely happened. Something not cool.

Speaker 1 I think Meredith has been, I think Meredith went on that plane and acted exactly like she was acting on the boat, which is turning her back to her, talking about her like she's not there, but being me, you know, saying like, this woman's an idiot and this woman's a this and this woman's a that.

Speaker 1 Oh, she's got proof. Now I think she was doing it.
We just saw her do it on the boat. So to me, it's the same behavior she had on the boat that she has on the plane.

Speaker 1 But now they're acting like, oh, oh my God, how could she act like that? What are you talking about?

Speaker 1 And Heather just chased someone down on the boat, screaming and yelling, trashed off of her face, screaming at them, you did this, you did this, just admit it.

Speaker 1 And to a sobbing person who's like, I didn't do it. What do you stop trying to make me admit something I didn't do?

Speaker 1 And Heather's chasing her off all the boat, all over the boat while she's screaming, calling her a bitch and all this stuff. But now Heather's like, oh.
Someone acted like that?

Speaker 1 I'm like, dude, have you seen yourself on TV? You acted like that for two days straight. What are you talking about? So that's what gets me mad.
It's like the hypocrisy of it.

Speaker 1 but yeah i do think meredith was probably a huge asshole to her but my questions are why if she was being so bad a why didn't anybody say anything to her on the plane b why didn't anybody because heather said on watch what happens that it was all production at first class how did nobody record this Because the first thing your ass is going to do is start recording someone acting crazy.

Speaker 1 And especially Brittany, because we already know that she's a recorder and she's always saying, oh, haha, you know me, the filmmaker, or whatever.

Speaker 1 So she would have recorded it or or someone who predicted it probably did recorded it. I would think they probably did record it.
And then, you know what? Well, they would just say, you know what?

Speaker 1 It's probably better if we just

Speaker 1 make the listeners try to imagine what it was rather than show it. Because it probably wasn't quite as exciting on camera, but it definitely is not innocent either.
And like, you know what?

Speaker 1 Let's leave it to the imagination. And, um, and now we're all here in a tizzy of like, what

Speaker 1 happens? They're smart enough that. And maybe they'll they'll pull it out at reunion and be like oh unseen for

Speaker 1 it'd be like it's it'll be a four-part reunion but honestly one part is just gonna be dedicated to the bronwyn and whitney conversation coming up well so you guys like extra dick okay one extra episode of reunion So Whitney is like, they wanted my phone.

Speaker 1 They wanted to know if I had TikTok on my phone. They wanted to know.
They wanted to see Britney's phone. They wanted everyone's phones to see the TikTok.

Speaker 1 She's acting like it was an authoritarian government boarded the plane and was like gathering people's phones for inspection. And Lisa's like, Bretna was like right in front of me.

Speaker 1 And I grabbed the armrest and I said, Brett, just give her the fucking TikTok. That's it.
And then I sat back.

Speaker 1 Why does that feel like it's a, it's a, you're, you're sort of breezing over some of the finer details of that confrontation?

Speaker 1 Yeah, because you know, Lisa was like, oh, yeah, you have the TikTok. Then show it, stupid.
Show it, you fucking liar. Yeah, do it.

Speaker 1 You got it. Show it.

Speaker 1 Shaking the seats. I mean, look, I imagine that those two were being monsters.

Speaker 1 I think that Lisa is actually pretty shitty in this situation because my first thought in this was Brittany was the only person to really stand up aggressively for Lisa at the beginning of the season when they were all talking about her cases.

Speaker 1 And the fact that Lisa was not able to diffuse this.

Speaker 1 uh and the fact that she wasn't able to say to marith you know what let's deal this with this when we land like it's okay i love you both like let's just let's just table this and like have, like, she wasn't able to do that.

Speaker 1 And she claims that she was trying to.

Speaker 1 And maybe now she can have some better perspective of what it's like for people to deal with her when she starts losing her mind. But of course, she won't.

Speaker 1 But I think it was, I think, I think that I think it sounds like Lisa failed Brittany here.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but at the same time, you know, when you're best friends with somebody, it's like, now you're in the position, like, are you going to stand up for me?

Speaker 1 This woman just said that my husband was cheating in an Uber. So who's, she brought that on camera.

Speaker 1 so who are you gonna stand up for so i don't know i mean well you just say i am standing up for you but like let's not have this fight on an airplane okay this is not the time or the place let's just relax well i think meredith was also extremely up because meredith has said before that she takes drugs to go on international flights right whenever they say do you ever take drugs she says only when i'm on international flights so you know that she is on something she's drinking because we know it's also in evidence that wine was spilled on britney when the the chair was shaking so we know she's drinking and probably on some kind of benzo or whatever i thought that might have been britney's wine oh she doesn't drink well she sort of drinks no she drinks but uh yeah she orders wine in the next scene but um

Speaker 1 yeah i think that meredith was probably really up and that's the air that mary is giving her like girl like i don't think you remember And she's saying, like, I think you're so fucked up at this point that you're not remembering what's happening.

Speaker 1 And that's the problem. And so I think that's kind of what they're calling out with Meredith without going all, they don't want her to go Dorinda on her on their asses.

Speaker 1 So they're not saying you're an alcoholic or you've got a drug problem or anything, but I think that that's what they're saying, right? 100% is what they're saying.

Speaker 1 And we see some text messages from the flight and Whitney is texting Heather and she's saying like they've been taunting Britney the entire flight and Heather's like, they are being very mad.

Speaker 1 And Whitney goes, I don't want to fly with these bitches.

Speaker 1 But again, they don't do anything about it. So Meredith tells us, well, what happened is very simple.
I vanted to Lisa about Britney and I never engaged with Brittany. Let me be very clear.

Speaker 1 I never spoke to Brittany. I never touched Brittany.
There was nothing. She goes, I just started bawling, actually.
I just couldn't take it anymore. I've never been treated like that in my life.

Speaker 1 Well, except for Jared, but he's allowed.

Speaker 1 Sir Meredith is like, as we were landing and Lisa woke up, I talked to her for about it for, I don't know, probably 10 more minutes, 10 minutes, maybe 15, maybe four hours.

Speaker 1 It's hard to say, but pretty much 10 minutes. And she's like, when we landed, I turned around and Brittany just melted into a puddle of tears.

Speaker 1 And then I looked at my finger, which had just melted into a puddle of green goo.

Speaker 1 Well, I wasn't screaming. Oh, but it was horrible.
I felt so humiliated. Well, it wasn't physical.

Speaker 1 And then we hear voiceover echoes, a wind chime, a hornhonk, a siren in the background. And Whitney's like, Meredith is completely unhinged.
And Mary says, yeah, it was constant.

Speaker 1 And Heather's saying it was an awful scene. Annihilating way too far.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, I think that Meredith and Lisa were probably being jerks. I don't know if it was to the point of screaming and yelling and pulling someone's hair and stuff.

Speaker 1 And I just don't know because it's Whitney and Heather for the most part. And Mary was sleeping most of the time with headphones, and so was Heather.
So, yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, Meredith goes, well, obviously it wasn't that deep, or I would have been arrested by an air marshal.

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