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But enough of that. Let's get right back into the episode.
Then we go to Wendy and Eddie's house and we see their new remodeled house and it looks really nice.

Oh, I was so happy with what they did with the kitchen island because I never really liked their triangle island that they had and it was also kind of dark in there.

and now they got like a full on like long

white marble kind of island did they even get two of them I'm not sure but it does look really nice I mean like yeah I liked it the living room looked nice no longer it was no longer like all white now it has these big sort of like black squares and everything and

It looked good. Well, it's kind of funny.
It's really nice. It's going to look great for the next family.
It really will.

At one point, Eddie was saying how he loved the cabinetry and he loved all the gold accents on it. And they show a close-up and it was like, it was like crooked.

I don't know if you saw it, but it was like two shelves that are like totally crooked and not aligned. And I was like, oh, no.

You can't all be winners.

Yeah. Well,

so, but it, but you know, how strange people are. It's like, yeah, we're done.
You are not done.

And then six months later, they'll return and then try and charge you another thousand dollars to fix the shelf they fucked up in the first place.

We have to imagine that the finale is going to be happening in

on this Colorado trip, right? Because they're starting to tie up all the loose ends at home. Like, I think now this is the new pattern on Bravo because they used to never beat the finale at the trip.

I actually, I like the finale after the trip personally, because I like seeing the fallout from the trip a little bit, but whatever.

But now what happens is, like, as we're about to approach, like, the end of the season, they like tie up all like the stupid domestic storylines. before they fly off.

So that way, like, it's like it's all complete.

So this is, this, this is where the, where we're going to put a pin on, not a pin we're gonna we're gonna close out this one which is the construction storyline it's revive it is all not revised i like i can't even talk can you tell that the holidays are coming up like i i can't even get the words out construction is done the renovation is done the house is done and now we're here to look at it it's never done it's never done because now she's like okay i can have a storyline for next year too should we do the pool or the basement and so they vote to do the pool so now they're gonna build a pool which is gonna be at least a hundred grand.

And

that's a lot of Birkins to pretend that were stolen. I don't know how they're going to pull this off, but I can't wait to see it.
So

now they're talking about how they're starting a new chapter. But let's talk about my dad again.

She's like, you know, I don't want anything to happen. I didn't reach out, but I just wanted to call and see what happens.
You know what I mean? And so she tells us her father backstory again.

And she's trying to make this a thing. And so now she's going to call her dad.

So she calls her dad and they have a little conversation and she's like well you know i wanted to talk about how we went to come to nigeria and then we didn't get to see you and he's like there's no use crying over spilled milk and she's like well but i bought my whole family and he's like i don't care it's like thanks for calling me this uh is this costing me minutes or you because You wouldn't even be talking to me right now if I had to pay for this.

He kind of placates her with sort of easy things like, well,

there's no need crying over spilled milk. And I miss you.
I miss my daughter. I miss her so much.
Let's not dwell in the past. I miss you.
I haven't seen my daughter or my grandchildren.

Oh, hopefully we can work something out. I miss you so much.
Hold on. I'm getting a phone.
I call on the other phone. Hold on one second.
Oh,

I'm breaking up, breaking up. Bye, bye, bye.

Also, I hate when people say there's no use crying over spilled milk because it's always the ones who spilled the milk that said that. It's like, well,

it's already spilled. Yeah, but you spilled it.
And if you don't want me to cry over it, then why aren't you holding a towel in your hand?

This was also like not, I would actually be really mad if it was reduced down to spilled milk. Like, oh,

sorry, I haven't seen my father in 20 years. And here are the grandchildren you've never met.
And we're finally, we crossed an ocean and we're here in your country and we're here for a few weeks.

And you can't make it. And you're going to say, oh, well, don't cry over spilled milk.
I was like, that was milk. That was sacred, restorative milk that gives you eternal youth.

That was not just any other milk. Okay.
Like, don't, don't minimize like just my existence into spilled milk. No, no, ma'am.
And I say that. It wasn't even spilled milk.

She's like a glass and you took the milk from the house and just left. She never got the milk.
You know?

Like, that glass wasn't even, the glass wasn't even, like, you, but you actually created the milk. And then

you abandoned the milk.

No one, no one said there needed to be milk. And then you made the milk and then you're like oh wow whoops i spelled it oh well

yeah i have to say watching this um i can understand where wendy's coming from because she lost her stepfather you know we know that and i can understand her wanting her kids to meet her dad and wanting to have a relationship with her dad i think that that's a totally understandable and relatable thing

However, fuck that dad. He abandoned you.
He didn't do shit. And then he didn't even come meet you and your grandkids.
So

what the fuck are you doing? Like, it's hard to not, it's hard to support this. I mean, I'm kind of

teen mom. I'm kind of teen.
Yeah, and he gets to do the easiest thing, which is to smile and be like, oh my God, I miss you.

And, you know, I appreciate her very mature take, which is like, look, I know my dad has his limitations.

Like, he's never going to be the dad that I want him to be, but I can at least like, I'll just meet him where he is.

And I'll just try to have a nice relationship with him, even though he's always going to like flake or he'll always say these nice things and he's never going to fall through.

And she's decided that she's just going to make that work. And that's fine.

I totally support that if she decides that that's what she wants because it's more important for her to have this relationship in her family knowing that they'll like she's sort of compartmentalized not compartmentalized but she's accepted that this person will never will never follow through on their promises like that's fine but this guy it doesn't mean we have to accept it and i think if this guy just to be like oh i'm just gonna smile i'm on i'm on camera right now i'm gonna just seem like this wonderful happy guy i'm like don't why why is it on her to come see you why don't you make some effort to see your own daughter?

You know

that said, I mean, if you're not going to get anything from your dad and you know, you're not going to get anything from your dad, you may as well use his ass for a storyline.

So, I guess that's good, good on her, you know? She's like, well, I could just make him look stupid on national TV. So, I'll go, I'll go that route.

So, then we go to Giselle, who is talking to Chief Development Officer of the National Brain Tumor Society. And she's like, whoa, I'm so super happy we were able to catch up.

And God, I haven't seen you since the 5k yeah so how much did the brain tumor society raise that day 1.2 million dollars wow wow wow we did great

you did not raise 1.2 million dollars giselle stop it with your big organization with your gna t-shirt i know and she didn't say she personally did it but i feel like it was kind of put up there to sound like she yeah

It was put up there. It's like, no, your GNA t-shirts did not do this.
And you're actually singing Coffee and Love or whatever the fuck.

People were paying, people were donating the charity just to shut Ashley up. They're like, we will pay $500 just so you can kill that microphone right now.
That is what GNA should be.

It should be Giselle and Ashley. Ashley starts singing and Giselle takes dollars in a cap until

she's got enough to shut Ashley up. I know.

So then we go over to Kierna and Greg. Because by the way, nothing else happened in the scene.
It's just like Giselle talking about the charity.

So Kierna and Greg, Kierna's moving back into this condo, condo which i think is different from the condo last year but it's whatever or whatever this this structure is house whatever it is that greg's living in she's moving back in so she's moving in and he's being all friendly he's like oh wow you got your poochie on and everything like like he knows what poochie is i'm sure she's like remember to mention my poochie on camera so he mentions the poochie and

i'm sorry i'm very confused so we just saw a scene at the potluck where they said so does this mean that she's moving back in with you? And they said, no, not yet.

And then the next scene, she's moving back in with him. What happened to the apartment, the condo that you bought yourself that later it turns out that Greg bought you? What is going on on this?

Nothing makes sense. Nothing makes sense.
Nothing is interesting enough to make sense because all the houses that we ever see them in are these generic, like they all look like the same thing.

It looks like

when I was a kid. Yeah, when I had, when I got my, my parents got me a camcorder when I was in ninth grade.

I started making little movies and I'd be like, scene one was gonna be at the office and it'd be like in the living room from one angle.

It's like now I'm at the town hall and it's just like the living room from a different angle. You know, it's like you're still in the living room.

It's like blatantly still in the living room, but because I turned the camera around and showed a different wall, it was like a whole different location.

And that's what all these houses look like to me. They just look like the same generic house.

I just, the only way I can tell the difference is that the one that Kierna was staying in by herself that she's so proud of had the panoramic view of the highway.

That's the only way i could tell a difference yeah

so yeah i thought they were the same place i couldn't even tell them apart i thought oh so he's moving into her house and then i didn't notice like the wacky chandelier that she has like the big ball chandelier so i was like oh okay i guess it's greg's i don't know either either way you know that they're good together because their taste is very like basic boxed it's like yeah it's like z gallery so kierna's like so this is my second time moving in with greg like clearly we're after a better start because he helped me move in with the boxes this time.

And we see footage of last year when she moved in and he just sat there while she brought in all the boxes.

And like, oh, this year, the big remarkable thing is that he actually stood up and brought boxes in.

Like, we're going to give a trophy to this guy for doing like the base level thing that any human should do for someone who's actually moving into this.

Are you ever going to consider being with somebody, man or woman, who doesn't help you move into their house? Like, that's crazy. Like, who sat there and watched you move in boxes? Wow.

I forgot about that. That was sad.
So she's like oh the other one's heavy you need to use a trolley haha

so she says that her mom wasn't on board with this but they're two adults and they know what's best for them and whether it's his house or a condo that she pretended to buy and then pretended that he bought but apparently nobody bought and isn't even really a thing i mean what the hell so um you know people around them have to respect that you are a liar Okay, you're lying constantly on TV.

Now go yell at Stacey about being a liar more, please. You guys are such hypocrites on this show.
I can't. So Greg's like, well, let's talk about the plans.

I know you've been an independent lady for a while. When? You bought her condo.
What are you guys talking about?

And she's like, well, what's your plan? And he's like, well, my plan is just to smile every day and be quiet, America. Like a little ding appears on his teeth.

So Kirna says, I decided to move back in because Greg and I made a newfound commitment to each other. And for me, it's like the ring symbolizes the next step.

And I just feel like you have to like love and understanding and be rooted in in that. And like the ring is like the cherry end up.
It's like, um,

none of this makes sense. You were just like so much better than than Greg.
Look, Kiarna kind of sucks on this show. Let's be honest.
We all agree. Kierana kind of sucks.

But even her sucking is still much better than Greg, you know?

At this point, I don't even know because at this point, like have some self-respect. I mean, your storyline was, I'm going to move out because Greg won't give me a ring.

I can't believe I moved in with him without getting a ring. So now I'm going to move out.
I'm going to do this by myself. I'm going to buy this place by myself.
Oh, whoops. No, Greg bought it.
Okay.

And now I still don't get what I need in this relationship. So now I'm just going to give him what he wants and move back into his house.
So he doesn't have to pay for that. Like,

what are you doing over there? We're trying to root for you, ma'am.

Yeah. Yeah.

So they're making some banter and he's like, all right, babe, I got you a nice gift. You know, it's like a little move-in gift, you know, like, you know, like Mr.

Biggs from the show, except you got Mr. Diggs.

And she goes, oh, yeah. And he's like, you know what the D stands for, right?

And she's like, no.

So he's like, okay, here's the gift. So he's like, I tried to disguise it.
So that's why it's in this big brown box. It's in a giant brown cardboard box, like the kind you get from Staples.

I was like, wow, this master of romance over here.

Yeah, real serendipitate.

So he gets her a box and inside her. He's just pretending that they're moving, but it's really flowers.
And it's flowers, some roses. And he's like, because I know red roses are your favorite.

Basic, you are so basic. I know

so basic.

So he's like, I know

those are your favorites. Really? And then there's a box from the jeweler, and he's like, you know, she goes, oh my God, you went to, you, you went to Radcliffe? Oh, my God.
I see that and I go crazy.

And he's like, you're getting excited, huh? And she opens it and it's a picture frame. I wish I was there.
This is the jewelry store, right? That he got this from. Am I reading this wrong? You're not.

That shit's hilarious. So he went, he took the mom and the brother to the jewelry store and ended up buying her a picture frame.
Can we please get footage of him doing that in front of the mother?

Because I would love to see it. Can we please get footage of the person working at the jewelry store watching him buy a picture frame at the jewelry store?

That's not even something you'd get at a jewelry store, is it? No, after they just showed him a $2 million diamond.

So she's like, wow, we're too Sagittarius, baby. We're there to fire you.
We're fire to each other's fire. You are basic to each other's basic.
I'm sick of hearing about you.

You both need to leave this show.

So

now she's going to try and change it. So she says, so you're totally fine with this still being the way it is because the condo is still Kay's condo and my name completely is a gift, but it's ours.

And he goes, yeah.

And she goes, so then the house, because you purchased the home, do you think that'll ever like change the deed? Are you going to change the deed once we get married?

And he's like, yeah, if you get married, it's like they're both properties and she goes if when he goes when i should say she goes no i'm saying like no it's not it's not if it's when and he's like not getting it he goes okay so when you get married they're both properties and she goes well so we wouldn't change the deed and he's like no i don't think neither one is necessary i don't plan on being here the rest of my life So he's saying we're not going to bother changing the deed because this will only be a temporary residence anyway.

No, you see, he has not changed. He does not want this.
He's not going to, this is whatever. I mean, how much can you harp on the same thing?

But I think he's saying like, okay, I got one in your name and I have one in my name. Like, what do you want from me?

She's like, but mine is going to still be in my name, but yours is going to be in both of our names, right? So he's trying to say fuck no, but he's doing it in the most uncomfortable way possible.

So then she's like, well, you said we were moving five years. And he said five to six.
And he goes, so you're going to hold me to that? She's like, yeah. And he just swigs his drink like oh god

so now we go to have lunch with tia and her half sister amira at flora's cafe

so um this is like a very

i don't know why it's like it feels like very much like a dc restaurant like i feel like the restaurants on this show have a certain look to them that just sort of is so amusing to me i can't describe it but it's like every time they go into a place that all the restaurants kind of look the same here So they are there and she's like, how's your head like?

Are you exhausted? And Amina was like, I am, but I'm wearing off a bit. It's not too bad.
She's like, oh, do you feel like my kids remember you from last year?

I was like, look, there's my bitch hat sister. It's like, yes, I think they did because your son kept on trying to kiss me and said, you don't look like the mirror.

And I didn't understand what he meant by that. She says, you know, it was so nice.
There were so many hugs and warmth.

Yes. Just about to say that.
I'm so sorry about that. She was like that, and it was disgusting.

Yes, well, I remember remember when i was first explaining to them that you're coming and they said

huh so yeah

yeah she goes so how did you explain that and uh she says well i just explained that my dad had two other kids but they haven't really figured out the timeline so they just think he got he think he got remarried or something um and um

She's like, well, and Amira goes, yeah, I guess family's family, irrespective of, you know, the order and stuff.

Seems

like Amira seemed very uncomfortable. She's like, Why are you dragging me onto TV?

Yeah.

And Tia's like, I've met my mom calling us into the room saying, Your brother and sister are coming around. And I was like, Huh? And Amira's like, Brother and sister?

She's like, Yes, apparently I'd seen her when she was born, but then I came home and told my mom, and I saw a baby today. And you know, my mom's a lady, so I mean, she's better than me.

I would have burnt the whole house down.

So they order some food, and Tia's, uh, they were just joking about, like, oh, she's like, I'll be the big sister with the alcohol. I'll have alcohol in my drink.

So they're talking about growing up and everything and talking about how,

you know, Tia's regretting that the relationship took so long to start. She wished that their relationship would have started a lot sooner.

But,

you know, but like, again, when their dad died, that was the first time they like both halves of the kids started to communicate a little bit more.

And they just realized and they realized that they came together because of that. And that was like the first time that Tia ever called Amira was during the funeral preparations.

Mama thought it was nice. She called her and she said, I just want you to know that you're loved,

which that's so sweet, even though she didn't really mean it at that moment. But it was still nice.
So they both start crying. And

Tia's like, well, when my father was alive, he really, really wanted us to be close. Yeah.

You fucking went and had kids on your mom. Wasn't he still married to the mom when he had the kids? Yes.

The the dads are getting a lot of forgiveness today on this show. We're forgiving the dads a lot of shit on this show today, but I'll suck it up for the sake of this show.

But yeah, it's not the kids' fault, you know, which I'm glad she finally realized. Like,

Amir. Yeah, there we go.

Yeah, I think what you realize is that, like, yes, her, her dad may have cheated and everything, but he loved his children and he just wanted all his children to be together, which is, you know,

like, yeah, that's like, it's an interesting, it's a, it's a multifaceted situation that is happening between them. So that was the scene.
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so now we go back to wendy and eddies for the main event because this was this was amazing scene right here so wendy and eddies

and um the kids are of course all like the the kid like the the sons they're i think they're all wearing their bring out eddies shirts which is just so embarrassing it's so

cringe

it's cringy like stop

this wasn't a thing

good it's not it wasn't a thing bravo like put it in the trailer for

the reunion, but it was not a thing in pop culture. Stop trying to make it a thing.
You're trying to make Fetch happen, and then you're trying to sell Fetch. It's not embarrassing.

It's embarrassing. So, yeah, so they're all wearing these.
And she's like, okay, when my family comes over, we're going to say, welcome to our home. And Cameron's like, jazz hands.

So they come over and they say, welcome. Well, only Wendy does.
She's like, welcome. So they're showing off the renovations.
And she says, my mom has a lot of opinions.

And, you know, I'm sure there's certain things I've done in the house that she wouldn't have done, but I hope she's proud of me. I hope she's proud.
So Susan liked it. She's like, this is beautiful.

It's beautiful. And Iris is like walking around, just sort of getting stink eye to everything.
And they're going from one place to another. They like it.

So they are walking around. They're looking at everything.
Wendy's showing off her little spice drawer and everything. And Susan's like, like, you really cook.
And she's like, I do. I do.

I don't know why you think I don't. Sometimes.
She's like, well, no, I cook all the time. I had to, I had to peel okra with that woman from the other TV show you made me go on.

She goes, oh my God, I've never seen black toilet paper before. And she comes out holding black toilet paper, which is hilarious.
She's like,

Wendy says there's a different vibe with black toilet paper totes here ass.

I don't know if I approve of black toilet paper. I think there's certain, I think there's like, it's more just like, I think there's like functional reasons of why it's white.

Yeah.

Like, you know, maybe,

I don't know.

And just also, we're used, I mean, this is gross to say, but you're used to what white toilet paper does. And it kind of gives you the temperature of what's going on.
You know, exactly.

Is there anything wrong? You know, it's like a litmus test, if you will. Black toilet paper, no.

You need to see contrast a little bit more to see, like, is it time? Have you, have you reached the finish line? Or is it time to like maybe go at it a second time? Okay. You need to see.

You need to see.

You need to see all you need to have like the full picture. And I'm afraid that black toilet paper won't do that for me.
So I appreciate the aesthetic appearance of it. I've never even seen it.

I think I've only seen it for like novelty things, like for your 40th birthday party. You know,

I don't think I've seen it. Yeah.
Gross. I've never

you know

uh

so i just did i'm sorry i just did a search i was like black toilet paper and the first thing that came up was some thing called renova it's a black toilet paper and it says renova the sexiest paper on earth

oh

sexy toilet

wiping my butt that's so sexy do not go in there but when you do check out that sexy toilet paper right yeah i don't know if I feel it, but I appreciate what it's trying to do.

So now Susan's like, well, remember when you wanted to go buy a new house and I told you, don't buy a new house. And she's like, okay, well, thank you for advising me, mother.
Okay.

So last time you guys were here, we talked about that. Okay, Wendy.
Immediately I said, no, no, no, no.

You know that they don't want to talk about this. Why are you talking about this again on camera with your mother?

What are you expecting from her after the last time you did work work out well you just did this to her on camera and she didn't like it and she faked her way through that scene she's not gonna fake it again ma'am she tried she tried for she tried to you could see she was biting her tongue she's like oh god this is going to be a long talk let me have a seat so she sits down and when he goes no it's not going to be long i just want to let you know i called and i called dad and i'm really happy i did and He was very warm and very apologetic and very optimistic about the future.

So it was a great conversation. I'm really happy I called him.
And Ivy's like, I don't know. As long long as you feel good about it, I just don't want you to get your hopes up.

She goes, No, no, my hopes aren't up because he's notorious for being a disappointment. So don't put him on a pedestal that he's not, that he's going to be that dad because he's just not.

And yes, he gave birth to you, but he's like, not going to be that fatherly. You know what I mean?

And then when he said, when, when Ivy, that's the trigger. When Ivy says, he gave birth to you, Susie goes, he gave birth to her.

I gave birth to her. I was the one in labor, in pain, right? Okay, he was just a freaking sperm donor.

oh gosh and she's right by the way she's right a hundred percent right you know like he gave birth ivy you should know better yeah um i mean i was pretty much team susan until she just went too far off the rails but i was like i mean she's not wrong and why are you bringing this up like you literally did not have to tell them this if you're going to do something that you know is going to hurt your mom's feelings Of course, it's her right to call her dad.

I'm not saying she shouldn't call her dad or that she should, you know, hate him because Susan wants her to, but you know, this is going to do nothing but piss off your mom who had to raise you when he abandoned you, at least if the stories that you guys are telling us are what happened.

So why are you even telling them? Why not just call him for your own peace and forge a relationship on your own? Why are you having to bring it up to them in this way?

It seems like she's fucking with them to me.

I actually think in a way, if Ivy had not said anything, like if Susan just said, okay, that's fine, moving on, it would have been fine. But Ivy, Ivy started talking.

I mean, actually, what Ivy said wasn't even that bad, but the moment that she said,

like, the moment that she said, he gave birth to you, which I don't know why she said that, but the moment that she said that, then it was over because Susan can't stand this man.

Susan's probably, probably like, I worked two to three jobs to put these kids through college, to make them the successes that they are, to get them to have advanced degrees.

to get them on television. I did this.
I mean, she basically said, these are my, these are my children, like the grandkids, right? Like, she's, she's like, I made all the sacrifices.

And like, I think what she's afraid of is that this guy just does nothing. And he comes in and he smiles and he says some nice empty words on camera.

And now he gets like credit and he gets all the love that, like, without doing any of the effort that I did. You know, and I had to go through all that hardship.
And yeah, and I

walk in here acting like, oh, I'm just the good dad. It's like, I'm the fun dad.
Crying over there. I have to do any of the work.
Yeah.

But now he gets, he's going to get all the love and possibly some of my allowance money. And that is not.

And so she's not going to give him a shred of credit, even if it's an, even metaphorically, by saying he gave birth to you. She is not going to let him have that.
Well, because he didn't.

I mean, it's also just a bad turn of phrase, probably.

Yeah.

So she's like, well, mom, you will marry, so I don't think it's fair that you say he's the sperm donor.

And Sudan's like, well, he didn't take care of me or you and even turn back to see how anybody's doing. That's why I gave him the title of sperm donor.

And her mom's doing this thing where she's standing up and just like going off, you know, she's going off. And so Wendy's like, okay, give me a second.
Quooz, Cameron, upstairs.

Upstairs, not in front of the children, mom, not in front of the children. And she points at her and she's like, don't do that to me.
Do not do that thing where you pointed me.

So she's pointing back at her. And Wendy's like, but you then, you don't do that because you could talk to me, but I'm going to protect my kids.

Quiz, take your sister upstairs for me, close your eyes in the closet, rock each other back and forth and say, bring him out, bring him out, until we call you back downstairs.

These kids would not do very well in a horror movie because they're taking a very long time to get upstairs. I'm like, get upstairs, Susan.
Like, she's about to blow. Guys, get out of there.
Clear.

The kids are like, are you kidding? I don't want to be gone. I want to see this.
This is amazing. Grandma's about to lose her shit.
Mm-hmm.

So Susan's like, yeah, like you've not done worse things. Where did you put my bag? Because I want to go.
And Wendy's like, okay, come on. Can you get your brother upstairs? Can you get your brothers?

I was like going my, I was like going crazy. I was like, kids, get upstairs.
Also, Eddie, where are you? Get the kids upstairs. Come on, Eddie.
So

he's not getting in the way of that mother. That's what Eddie's doing.
He goes into his office. Yeah.
He's like, bang. He's like playing Minesweeper.
Yeah, he's like...

He's going to be coming up with some happy edgy Eddie fidget spinners. Okay.

I'll be in the office.

I am not in your friend group. Don't do this to me.
That's disrespectful. Okay.
Don't do this. I gave birth to you.

You can do that to your job but not to me i'm already pissed off so don't piss me more off i came here to see your renovation and not to hear some update on the person that abandoned me and the children and i had to work four jobs okay so come on you know how much money i paid to butch through school i mean she's having like she's great monologue she's she is just just laying it to Wendy right now.

I was like, even I was like, ooh.

I'm sorry. She is.
And this is where she starts losing me because she's just too much. Like, she's just too much.
And I was like, oh my God.

She's too loud and I can imagine, you know, she's screaming and yelling. And Wendy's

upstairs. It's too much.
You know,

I have a pretty strong mother. So a lot of this was just like, oh, God, mom, please.
Not here. Not in the restaurant.

I just, you know, I just was more concerned about the kids because even though the kids are upstairs, I can hear the screaming, you know, elsewhere. I'm concerned for the kids.
They're fine. I was.

Kids. I'm just saying, don't worry.
What are you going to do about kids today? Just to wait and see. You know, I I mean, grandma's crazy.
They probably love it. I guess.
They're probably used to it.

So Wendy's like, well, the feeling is still very deep for my mom that to have carried that weight for 40-something years by yourself. And I'm sure she has a lot of resentment towards my dad.

Oh, you're sure?

What gives you that idea?

And so Ivy's like, okay, well, fine. The kids don't need to hear what's going on.
But your presentation was off, Wendy, okay? Putting your hand in mom's face.

And now all of a sudden we're protecting the image of the grandfather. And Susan's like, oh, the the grandfather, who has not seen? And she stands up and's like, I've not seen the grandchildren.

Excuse me, do not interrupt me. They flew across the world to see him and they he never showed up.
And Wendy's like, okay, well, now you're doing too much because you want to have your moment.

And that to me, I'm not doing. Well, Wendy, you are doing this on TV because you want to have your moment of like pity with your dad and all of that in the storyline.

And you want to poke your mom at it on TV with it. You want to poke your mom with it on TV to to have your moment and now you're getting your moment with your mom i mean you asked for this so

so susan's like i am not doing too much it's like and you know what she ivy you know what she's doing oh get lost don't insult me i'm your mom i love her saying get lost when she's like in wendy's house

I mean, the gall of this mother. So Wendy's like, who insulted you? She goes, you don't have to call me an idiot to be an insult.
And she goes, who called you an idiot?

It's like, I'm here to talk to you. And you walk.

Okay, so now i've insulted her by walking here she's this is disrespectful and you don't know about african culture are you coming here to defend your wife and because now eddie's coming up and he's like no no no no she'll go stand with her then he's like it's just the voices are a little elevated and she goes and then ivy and susan both start chanting bring eddie out bring eddie out bring eddie I was like, you know,

mocking them with their own stupid t-shirts.

He's like, the voices are getting elevated. And what was so funny is, not funny, but it was so interesting because now Susan's like sort of holding Eddie's hands and she's quieting down.

And she's like, all I'm seeing. He's like, I'm just saying, calm down the waters.
Because she's like, I'm saying, and all I'm saying is this. Don't tell me what I said.

And she starts saying how he's like the man of the house at one point. And it's like, sort of interesting how like Susan is this.

very strong woman, very strong, very opinionated woman who does not suffer any fools. But it's still interesting that like like she still defers to like the man of the house, right?

Like that Eddie is like Eddie comes out as the man of the house and she starts to calm down a bit. I just think that's so fascinating.
Oh, no, I know.

She was, I don't think it was, I mean, I just read it differently, but I think what was happening was she was saying, okay, Eddie, listen, you know, she's messing with me.

And as the man of the house, you need to take care of your woman because she's losing her mind. Because she tells him, okay, you're the man of this house and your wife is out of control.

And she's like, well, I'm out of control.

So I think she's just trying to pull Eddie to her side for the fight and be like as the man of the house you need to step in and take care of her because she has lost her mind talking to her mother like this

well either way it was still fascinating to me how that like she suddenly like quieted down for eddie and wendy is so wendy's like are you kidding am i in the twilight zone he's like okay i just want everyone to calm down the conversation is just getting very exacerbated and i think we all need to take a beat well all this started because she was talking about how she was talking in front of the kids And I'm just so upset.

Like you guys all, you guys always do this. You guys always start yelling in front of the kids.

Susan goes, shut up.

Oh, shut up. Shut up.
Shut the fuck up, Wendy. But I'd just like to point out, no, it didn't start.
This didn't all happen because of how she was talking in front of the kids.

This all happened because you brought up your fucking dad's pity story again to try and get pity off two people who hate this man. What are you thinking? What are you doing?

I mean, and it's interesting because I'm thinking of it differently today talking about it than I was watching it.

Cause when I was watching it, I was like, oh, hell no, they need to just kick that mother out of the house. Like, you need to just be like, this is my home.
You can't talk to me like this.

Get the hell out of here because she's out of control. I mean, that's her mother's acting ridiculous.
And you know that they have to deal with this all the time.

And you have to have a boundary and all of this. You know, that's what I was thinking watching it.
But now reading it back, I'm like, but wait a minute.

Like reading how this is all happening sequentially, Wendy's fucking with them, right? Because this is just crazy. How are you doing? Theyndy's not trying to go off on you.

I think Wendy's trying to have a storyline where she's showing growth by meeting someone where they're at, which is her, her dad.

And she wants them to co-sign it. And the mom is like been biting her tongue probably all season.

And just the moment that Ivy said that one comment, it just all, the mom just was like, no, I cannot, I can't do this anymore. I can't.

I know you're trying to have some sort of personal growth storyline. I don't think that Wendy was there trying to like make them like make her mom.

Like, I don't think she was trying to make a moment out of her mom. I think Wendy was just trying to do a story arc for the producers and the mom was,

was sort of like,

and then she just, and then she saw red. There's just too much, there's too, too many years of like drama and, and frustration with this man that she just can't keep it in.

But I also think like, Susan, you got to keep it together. There's kids in the house and you're literally screaming, shut up at your daughter.
Like, that's not like, you got to get out of here.

Well, I think this happens all the time.

I think one of the tweets I saw the most last night after the show was justice for NECA because that whole storyline of your mom calling to threaten me and your mom calling it, you know, all these threats.

And Wendy's like, oh, don't talk about my mother. But we believed it back then.
I mean, I 100% believed that back then. I remember that.

Yeah, no, I'm not, I don't mean like whether or not I like NECA. I'm just saying I believe that the mom did call and threaten her.
I believe that 100% at the time.

And so it's just funny that Wendy's was being so protective and always, she's always protective of her mom. Like my mom would, you know, don't talk about my mom.
Don't disrespect my mom.

But then she's kind of like taunting her mom to do this to me.

Her mom, this is not the woman's first time acting like this. And even Wendy says, 100%.
Oh, you know, this is just another day of these two ganging up on me and my mom losing it at me. So

I I feel like she knew what she was doing. And I'm not saying it's like a Bronwyn thing where she's trying to, where I feel like she's trying to get pity from the audience.

I don't think it's anything like that. But

I don't know. It's just like, what do you think is going to happen? What do you think is going to happen? Oh my God.

Yeah.

So Susan is losing her mind. And she's like, let me tell you why I'm so hot.
You don't even give a shit right now about this girl. And Wendy's like, okay, okay, I'm upset.
I'm upset.

And Eddie's like, okay, don't be be upset oh because i'm sorry because at that point susan has been as i think at this point what susan has left the building susan and ivy leave it's so funny because ivy just like ivy no no they're not gone yet they're still standing left yet oh yeah no no they're still standing they said they were gonna leave but they're still standing there and wendy's just crying to eddie and susan's like what are you doing look at this girl why are you doing this and she's like i want and she tells eddie i want them to get the out of my house and ivy goes oh really you said you want us to get the out of your house and eddie's like no no no no no no no no she didn't do that I gotta go draw some fidget spinners and Susan's like is that what she said then he's like guys let's just and I'll be saying okay it's good you know what you have my key okay y'all be blessed take this mic off me please I'm done and then Susan goes off again she's like oh yes well last time you told us about your dad we comforted you and that doesn't mean we supported his stupid ass look how I am working how many jobs to help you with your kids quit my job to take after your kids and you're here but I'm not upset when he called me kiss ass for kiss his ass for all i care idiot look at this girl look at her and then she's just like

talking to herself is she putting on lipstick she's like she's like you and she's even like putting on lipstick leaving the house

and eddie's like are you okay she's like i'm used to it he goes and eddie's like you said you're used to it She goes, you know, this is, this is always, it's always this.

Like, if I'm not on their train to hate them, it's a problem. Like, look, they even leave together.
Look, they're together.

And that's exactly exactly why I wanted all young to have a relationship with my dad. Because when it's the three of y'all, the two people always fuck with each other.
You're by yourself.

And you're like, damn, I'm always by myself. So that's also interesting.
She's basically like, Ivy and my mom always team up against me.

And so now I'm going to get, I'm going to have a relationship with my dad. I was like, I fuck you.
So

I need to have another ally. I guess.
Yeah. And I'm going to rub it in my mom's face.
Yeah, but Susan, out of control, man. But I loved it.
And I was like, yes, you know, I love it.

Well, it was very real.

I mean, I love those scenes when it's like, I didn't feel like she was like, like, yelling to have a reality show moment.

She was yelling because she had like years of pent-up anger around this situation that come tumbling out. And I find that to be like very fascinating.
I mean,

it's uncomfortable because she's really, she's, she's. shouting.
I was uncomfortable because the kids were upstairs and they could hear it. And I did not feel like that was like,

that concerns me, honestly, because the kids, the kids can hear these things it's like it's hard it's hard to be fine even if they're used to it but like i don't i don't think that's great i just you shouldn't be yelling at someone like that in in their own home that's crazy and you shouldn't be yelling at someone like that at all but just to see the dynamic and just knowing just knowing for years or suspecting at least for years that that's how susan is and then seeing it finally

seeing her finally just unleash was fun it was fun it was fun as an audience member because it's been so long that it's like is she are these stories true?

And then to see her do it, it's like, oh yeah, there she is. There she is.

But again, you know, I just have to, it's like Wendy, Wendy had to know this was going to happen. Like, and also I kind of don't blame Susan.

I mean, I blame her for how she acted, but you've got this man who abandons your children, does nothing, then hurts their grandchildren's feelings after they go all the way over there.

And now you're going to try and make it like, why can't you guys just be nice to dad? Like, fuck off.

Like, you can do that on your own time you know go be nice with your dad and have your own relationship but to try and pull them into it and like try and get their support is loony tunes to me that's that's nuts you ain't getting it yeah it was a wild episode yeah uh well everyone thanks so much for being here and for listening and we will catch you on we're gonna go record some marriage medicine now so we'll catch you on that one talk to y'all later bye

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