Good Times Energy w/ Jack Black

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You two are bad friends. Who are these two idiots? White dude and an Asian dude.
You two are disgusting. You two are something.
We're bad friends. Is it uncomfortable? It's we should get the nicest chairs we can we can find like really high-end but only one of them so then if we have two guests one of the the best guests gets it i don't even know why where you buy chairs where do you buy chairs where would you buy chairs uh i do some amazon uh purchasing of no i haven't bought any yeah yeah no but i have bought like camping chairs on amazon yeah and if you go high-end camping chair you can go like zero grav i've gotten a zero grav chair on amazon what's a zero grav it makes you feel like it's zero gravity where you feel like you're floating but really floating dude it's dude.
It's just the angle of that Barka Lounge. Whoa.
I think I need one because I play Stardew Valley so much that my back is beginning to hurt. It's probably a symptom of playing too much video games.
Yeah. I think I hunch over like this and I also kind of dip.
Whoa. Look at that zero gravity gaming chair.
Whoa. That's what I want, dude.
A scorpion? Yeah yeah does it come with the girl or no yeah not

that i would you know she would like clean stuff you know let's move on that's why you game in

zero graph yeah that's great i just bought off off the internet i bought those little like really

low to the ground chairs so when we go to because it's summertime dude and it's going to be movies

in the cemetery have you been uh i have been to that place but is that hollywood is forever yeah

forever cemetery great spot we love going every year we go watch a cool movie we've done like

Thank you. I have been to that place is that Hollywood is forever yeah forever cemetery great spot we love going every year we go watch a cool

movie we've done like they did

Kill Bill 1 and 2 we done

Beetlejuice

have you ever done the movie theater in the cemetery

Synesbia

alright man welcome our guest

no if you're going to be rude in front of

Jack because you're trying to be a hot shot

cool guy sorry Jack

you're trying to be a hot shot cool guy in front of

Jack I get it

Thank you. No, you're going to be rude in front of Jack Black.
I'm not being rude. Because you're trying to be a hotshot cool guy.
Sorry, Jack. No, I'm going to be answering.
No, you're trying to be a hotshot cool guy in front of Jack. I get it.
I get it. Assert dominance.
I get it, dude. Yes, I've been.
Well, thanks for adding to the conversation. I mean, it's crazy right now, dude.
It's too early for me. Everybody welcome Jack Black to the show.
Jack Black. I want to say this about you, Jack Black.
Oh, we have so many things to say. Maybe one of the most- Bingo.
Lovable, funny, beautiful people we have on earth right now. Who? Me? Bobby.
Bobby. Yeah, I just wanted to say, I wanted you to recognize what I was saying.
Yeah, you know, may I say stuff? Yeah, please. I think you're one of the most beautiful, funny, fun, loving.
Can't do the same thing. You have to mix it up.
My own thing? Yeah, do your own thing. Dynamic.
Yep. Versatile.
Oh, yeah. Yeah, creative.
Did you say that already? No, but it's all kind of wrapped in. Oddly nimble.
You are. You are.
Oddly nimble. You're talking about me? Yeah, you're dancing.
I remember you do dancing. I do move around.
Yeah. I get, yeah, I am oddly nimble you're talking about me yeah you're dancing i remember you you do dancing's i do move around yeah i get yeah i i am oddly nimble that's a good that's a good description i think of my nimbleness it's odd um you built a mini you built a mini ramp in your backyard right don't you have a mini i did that's so cool have you ever seen that he i've seen mini rams yeah because i watch x games of him skating oh no no no i'm not you you skate i do i didn't i'm not a real ramp skater i use it more of a mode of transportation i all through my teen years i was skating all oh you mean you're real for real yeah uh that is no longer there we took it down because uh there were too many we got there's a lot of beefing and uh wait what's going on oh there's just a couple injuries and I was like enough of this crazy wacky thing it's not right I do enjoy it but I also am not good at it let's be honest well you can drop down I think that's the hardest thing dropping down I cannot drop down can you drop up? here's what I do i start in the middle and i go back and forth yeah uh until i fall down can we just say it's dropping in you know this right drop drop in correct yeah it's not dropped out excuse me niger houston well here well here's what's funny about you you horagomi here fucking this guy used to claim that he skated remember that remember that whole fucking lie that he perpetrated tony hawk taught me on Ollie.
It's online. Yeah.
Wait a second. Can you, Ollie? I can now because Tony taught me it's online.
He can. Yes, I can.
It's online. That's one step before it.
And I get an intro. Look at me.
Look at my ponytail. I don't want to watch this right now.
Yeah, please. Yeah, yeah.
Let's not watch that right now. Okay, so anyway, but you know how to go back and forth like the thing.
I can go back and forth and I can do a couple kind of spinaroos, but I cannot even ollie, dude. We'll get you there.
I can't kickflip. I did a whole video of me yelling at people to do a kickflip, and it was a lot of fun to yell at people and watch them do kickflips, but I felt like a hypocrite because I cannot kickflip.
I can't even ollie. I know, but you can't kickflip without knowing how to fucking ollie, Jack.
I know, you gotta walk before you can run. Exactly, dude.
So yeah, if afterwards, do you have a couple decks here? You didn't bring your board, did you? No, I don't really have. I see a board, but it doesn't have any wheels on it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got rid of all my boards, yeah.
I used to use them for art, but no longer. Yeah, that skateboard, that was giving us, what, a fan did that as a gift.
We've got some fun. If you look around the room, actually, all this is fan art.
Everything has been given to us from- Oh, nice. It looks like there's some AI art back there.
That one- That's a real- Oh, that one? Yeah, the one- No, that's my brother who lives in India. No.
Okay. Let me just say something.
I am very gullible. I believe everything that is told to me.
I never go fuck you. But yeah, you're right.
AI, you got it. I did.
That was AI. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You got it, man. I don't want to be.
It's Andrew Space Prince from India. Yeah.
Is that what you tell? AI? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't want to be offended, Jack, but may I say something that might be, I mean, I don't want, I want to be myself.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. And I want to be real with you.
Do you mind if Bobby's real with you? Go straight at me. I want to go straight at you.
I appreciate you. Uh-huh.
Here it comes. There's no comment, man.
Right said i appreciate well i appreciate you i mean and i i don't want you to feel weird a fan big fan throw that out there um but i think you've helped me sexually i'll tell you why oh all right this is all good it's great i was ready for the butt no no no no, no. I'm grateful for it.
And? I get real, yeah. I get really emotional about it.
But I think that like, you, because, you know, we're, I mean, I know I'm littler than you, smaller, right? But I feel like we're in the same, you know what I mean, range of like, body types almost. Yes.
Yeah. Let me finish.
On a spectrum. On a spectrum.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. His.
His is more evolved. I'm rocking about 250 right now.
I've been stuck here for years. Where are you at? Where are you at? I'm at 180.
One? You're in the ones? You're not even in the same universe as me, bro. Yeah.
Yeah. But women have got like, I've got with girls and they go, I like that Jack Black look.
Oh, man. You know what I mean? Yeah.
In my mind, I'm like, I always get on my hands and knees and I go, thank you so much, Jack Black. I mean, I'm not praying to you.
You are, though. Yeah, I am.
And I go, thank you for like he's paving the road so I can get some nookie nook. You know what I mean? So I appreciate it.
That's all I'm saying. You pave the road to pussy town.
That's basically what you've done. Yeah.
Yeah. So thank you so much for that.
That might be the highest compliment I've ever received. I don't know if you know this, but Jack Black is a subcategory on Pornhub.
If you search Jack Black. No.
Oh, yeah. No, there's not.
Really? There's a crew of guys that look like Jack Black on there. I am not going to immediately search that as soon as it's going to do it's over.
Yeah, yeah. I might Google, I might do that at Pornhub.

If somebody compares your body to Jack Black,

what would mine be compared?

What's mine?

Oh, fuck you.

I know what you're doing.

It's gross.

What is it?

Oh, you want to say Tom Hardy?

Is it really?

I guess, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Tom Hardy, yeah.

Tom Hardy.

I guess it is.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I mean, you are,

I mean, as a comic,

for a comic,

I think you are,

you're not Matt Rife.

No, no one. You're not Matt Rife or Jeff Dye.
No, that's true. But you're like two below that.
Maybe three. Yeah, but still.
Still missed. 15 above me.
You know what I mean? So that's pretty good. It's pretty good.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, you're pretty hot.
People, women have said that. No.
It's hot. Your co-host is hot.
Yeah. Hot, hot tempered is really what it is.
Yeah, yeah. Uppity and hot tempered.

But I will say, Jack, getting back to reality,

thank you for everything that you've done

in the world of comedy.

And you bring joy on a level that I think,

I've never once seen you and gone,

nah, no, I see you and I go, oh yeah, that guy's fucking great. Bro, I'll tell you the first time I saw you, dude.
Yeah? And it wasn't a huge part, right? But I remember going, oh, that guy's good, right? A movie called... School of Rock.
No, DMW. I don't think I'm in that movie.
Yeah, you're in that movie. Are you sure? It's called Dead Man Walking.
Oh, yeah. Yeah, you're in that one.
He hates acronyms. Yeah, I love acronyms, dude.
You got to say them all out. Yeah, yeah.
Dead Man Walking. Dude, you play his brother.
Remember, he's about to get MGK. That's what happened earlier.
Yeah, we had MGK in here a couple days ago, and it was a funny story. And I was like, MGK? He's like, Machine Gun Kelly.
Oh, if you would have said that i would have but it was but it was a serious scene in the movie right where like your brother's dying right he's on death row yeah jack right yeah sean pan sean pan's your brother right yeah yeah he's the dead man walking and then he you guys are in like i remember distinctly you guys are in sort of waiting room i think you're wearing a suit i don't know were you ever wearing a Yeah, it was like a Sears. It was a cheap suit.
Yeah, yeah. We, yeah, a low-income family.
Yeah. And I was one of his little brothers.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. There were three of us.
And I was so freaked out because I love Sean Penn ever since I saw Fast Times at Ridgemont High. Oh, yes.
He's my favorite actor. So good.
And weirdly, that was kind of the only comedy thing he did, the very first movie, and then he went hard into, like, drama. Yeah, but Fast Times? No one.
I mean, I know it's a specific character. You know what I mean? It seems more sketchy, like a sketch character almost.
But, dude, because he's such a good actor, it just makes it so much better because it's so believable.

He never looked like that again, which I thought was really wild.

He transformed.

That stoner surfer thing never was reimagined by him, which I thought was kind of wild.

After that, you never saw him look like that ever again.

The donut around his belly button when he walks in remember that remember fast times i don't remember a donut in his belly button i think yeah i think walked into the room with a donut as picoli as picoli it might not right or no i don't think so right there or bagel bagel yeah that's tucked into it but i'm sure that's a choice. Mr.
Hand.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah. Well, no one had captured that kind of stoner before him on film that I'm aware of.
Yeah. And it was just such a brilliant, hilarious performance.
But anyway, so I had this little part as his little brother. And it was just a surreal experience.
experience and I got to watch him do his thing up close and personal. And I was there on the day that he shot the scene with Susan Sarandon.
In the jail. In the jail.
Oh, my God. It's the night before he's going to get executed.
And he's just having this cathartic, like, just explosive tears. And it's a confession.
He confesses to her. It's the redemption part of it.
Yeah. And then obviously you weren't shooting that day.
No. You knew he was shooting that scene that day? So were they weird that you were coming or no? No.
I knew the director. The director who also gave me my first part in showbiz, Tim Robbins, was also the director of a theater company called The Actors Gang.
And so I was tight with him. So he let me kind of, you know.
Right, right. I wanted to watch stuff.
Was he approachable, Sean Penn, back then or no? he was approachable but he was super method so he was kind of in character as this

kind of gnarly dude drug drug doing uh madman who uh partied hard and um and i did hang with him but i i have to admit i was a little scared of him uh in the way that you might be scared of wild animal where it's yeah, yeah. One time you're just talking, and there's a funny story about John Malkovich or something, and then the next minute there's some kind of crazy free-form poetry coming out of him.
And then it's like, wait, are you going to punch me in the face? Wait, what's happening over there? Wow, wow, wow. Is there a blowjob happening? Hey, where am I? Do you you get intimidated still or no like sometimes i'm like i get a little nervous yeah i get anxious you get anxious i get anxious and you know when they say never meet your heroes i think never meet your heroes not because they're gonna do something weird but i act weird.
I don't do well. If I have an option to meet them,

I usually will say pass.

I'd rather just enjoy their work from afar.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Also, you don't want them to be a dick,

then it'll forever change how you feel about them.

No?

I don't know.

I mean...

I tell you my Thierry Henry story, right?

No.

You know who Thierry Henry is?

Soccer player?

Yeah.

He's my favorite soccer player,

Jack.

Oh,

really?

Even better than Pele.

The way you say Pele,

maybe not,

but it's like Thierry Henry is a French soccer player for my favorite team.

What's my favorite team?

Everybody.

Arsenal.

Arsenal FC.

Okay.

Legend.

I was shooting the dictator.

It's Sasha's movie. I had two lines but anyway there are no small parts thank you Jack I mean no he does a lot of small parts yeah two line Lee I know I honestly yeah business he's called two lines with I don't know.
He makes a meal. I make a meal.
So anyway, I'm in the elevator. I can't believe I've never told this story.
No. Oh, my God.
All right, so I'm at the Trump Soho Hotel back then. You have a residency there, right? I'm a residency there.
Yeah. Anyway, that's what it's called.
It's called the Trump Hotel. They've got a Lee floor.
Yeah. We've got a Lee floor.
Yeah, there's a library. 33 for Lee.
Okay. So it's not.
Okay. First of all, there's definitely not a library there.
Go on. No, there was.
Okay. Anyway.
I go in the elevator. The doors open.
Yeah. And you, oh, so can I just say, because he's French and he played for Arsenal, it's England.
It's like kind of running into Gandalf or Voldemort.

You know what I mean?

You never think you're going to fucking run into them.

Yeah.

Right?

It's not like LA where like, oh, there's Tom Cruise.

I mean, he, you know, or whatever.

You know what I mean?

You never think.

So when he walked in, in my mind, I'm like,

Gandalf just walked, you know what I mean?

And then like also I'm like his biggest fan

and I fucking went, I shut down.

Like I was like I didn't know what to say and then he got off on his floor and I wanted to say things and I couldn't it was the first time where I was fucking starstruck so you never got to say hello I never said anything and also it's like but Because if I fucking Said something and he was a dick Oh my god It would have ruined it What would you have said anyway Let me be that guy What's his name Tiare Henry I am Tiare Henry. Tiara, I am Tiara Henry.
Yeah,

yeah, yeah.

Pardon me,

I'm going to the elevator.

Yeah,

yeah,

yeah.

Okay,

so let the music play

in the elevator.

I'm not going to go right away.

Tiara,

hello?

Tiara,

are you talking to me?

Can I take the volume down?

I can't take the volume down.

Bonjour.

I'm trying to, sorry Tiara, I'm trying to turn down the...

Oh, fucking shot.

Anyway.

What is it, the volume of the elevator music?

This elevator has a volume knob.

This is crazy.

Yeah, and in theory, dude, I'm a huge Arsenal fan, and I'm a huge Arsenal fan, Arsenal fan And I can't believe Thank you Can I take a photo with you I'm sorry There is no time It is weird to talk to Pippi Aline de Vidal So goodbye Au revoir I fucked it up It doesn't matter Dude No matter what you do In an elevator As soon as you start talking To a stranger in an elevator You you're off on the wrong foot. Because they feel trapped.
They're stuck with it. They don't know who you are.
You could be a dangerous person. Right, right, right, right.
Elevator conversations are so uncomfortable. So that's why maybe I didn't say anything.
Here's the best thing to say. I don't want to be that guy, but let me be that guy for time they say that every time

a guy walked up to me on the

phone in Scotland

on FaceTime I was at a hotel

on the phone with my wife

the guy's on FaceTime

and he just jams his

phone in front of my face because he's

on with a friend of his

and I took everything

inside of me not to just take his phone and throw it

as far as I could because it was

crazy rude he was just like shoved it in my face yeah now i think my generation of like don't say anything i'm just gonna leave him alone now people don't give a shit at all they'll shove a phone right in your face they'll record you it's gotten it's crazy now no there's no rules yeah no rules there's no rules but there's also no way to win because if you throw the phone you're an asshole if you yep if you uh take the phone and play along and talk to the stranger on the thing for the stranger then you're you're being a foolish person because now you're getting stuck in in a weird situation i always end up doing it yeah i was like okay yeah i'll talk to the person but if i'm like late for a thing or I'm with someone that's a friend or a family I will kind of keep it short hey man it just was weird it was the weirdest he like put it on my face I can't imagine you your face must change colors yeah I don't like that he is the pivot how do you stick and move so that it takes the least amount of time and that way i think it's best to go high impact give me that fucking phone love you bye give them the experience and then move write that down high impact that's why i'm gonna try that style look can i try high impact i was the opposite he put it in my face i go come on man and i walked away yeah come on what are you doing can i try high impact yeah i want to I think you're a try high impact? I was the opposite. He put it in my face.
I go, come on, man. And I walked away.
Can I try? Can I try? What are you doing? Can I try high impact? Yeah. I want to practice.
I think you're a little high impact anyway. Right now? Yeah.
No, always. Okay.
Do it. Go for it.
Well, give me the phone. Put the phone in my face.
Hey, man. We talked to my buddy.
I got it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
See, I told you he was Asian. Here's the problem with what you did, Andrew.

For me, if I do what you did and you're like, no, pass.

Thank you, but no thank you.

And I walk away, it stays with me.

Oh, yeah.

I disappointed that person.

It'll fucking stick with me for days.

Sometimes weeks.

I'll be like, why was I such an asshole to that one person?

All I had to do was fucking.

Yeah. So I will usually err on the side of give him something.
Give him a little. Give him a little something.
If it's appropriate, I always do. But this was like drunk, rude, shove a phone in my face.
I was like, come on, dude. But you guys don't know what it's like being little though.
Because then they can take more advantage. No, what they do is- They pick you up.
Last night, I was with a young lady. In her 30.
She's 30 years old. And why were we shooting guns just then? It was becoming more American.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, I love Deadwood.
And that's why I was doing that. Is that what she calls your penis? Go ahead.
No, but we have Bluetooth. Yeah, we do.
Throwing in there. So anyway, last night, eating dinner at Melrose Ramen.
It's great. Ramen place.
They close at three in the morning. Whoa.
Wow. Really? It's great.
It's on Melrose. Party zone.
Yeah. So it's a good place.
You know, after a stand up, you know, if you're hungry, go with it. Anyway.
After last call, they know what they're doing. They know exactly what they're doing.
Thank you, Jack. So'm sitting there and they a guy comes up from behind me and puts me in like a headlock

because i know this guy the internet or whatever i'm like yeah yeah and he you know kind of does

like a noogie noogie thing right fucking guy and because i'm little they they think that they can

do it which they can no they can't and i don't want anybody nobody ever touched my best friend

ever again that's enough no more headlocking it's not nice or after a show if i'm in the south

Thank you. No, they can't.
But they do. Nobody ever touched my best friend ever again.
That's enough. No more headlocking.
It's not nice. Or after a show, if I'm in the South, people will pick me up.
I know. I've seen it.
Hey, my little fucking guy right here, man. Hello Kitty, man.
Come here. Hey.
You know what I mean? They'll pick me up like I'm a little fucking statue or whatever. They simba him.
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Dark. Yeah.
You don't have good times energy. No.
You have bad times energy sometimes. Bad times.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Very bad times.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Grim almost.
Dark. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah. But why can't you be more silly like Jack and I? Because we're good times people.
It's not in my nature. It's not? There's yin and yang in the universe.
Ah. You're yang.
I'm yin. No, we're more yin.
You're yang. No, I'm y yin you're yang what is yang white or black i don't know

look it up which one's yin i want to know what the color is we're overpowering the dark side here i'm messing with the balance of power of your yin and yang right now oh yeah you are yang is yang is white yeah so i'm i'm yeah yeah we're more yin we're yang oh yeah no you guys are you guys are more uh full moon. Okay, full moon.
When yin is the strongest. Okay.
You ever been to Yang Chao? Is that on Melrose? Is that Chinese restaurant? Yeah, in Chinatown. Here in LA.
Slippery shrimp. Get the slippery shrimp? Slippery shrimp? Yeah.
It's not a good name because it's not slippery

it's kind of crunchy

and sweet

is it spicy

a little bit

there it is

slippery shrimp

I love it

so yummy

I love myself

what's your bad boy meal

what's your like

I can't wait to go get naughty

and overeat this

I mean look

a cheeseburger is the best

sandwich in the world

and that is my bad boy meal

with some fries

you got a spot

what's your favorite

smash burger right now

you know what

I'm gonna come out and say

I'm not into smash burgers

Thank you. in the world, and that is my bad boy meal with some fries.
You got a spot? What's your favorite smash burger right now? You know what? I'm gonna

come out and say it. I'm not into smash burgers.

They're smashed,

so the question, this is the eternal question.

I can't believe we still have to ask this question.

Where's the beef? It's been smashed

out of it. It's mostly char.

It's mostly fried char,

and the beef is in there, but it's smashed.

I like a big, fat, juicy burger. Yes.
Well, you're a Fuddruckers guy. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
It closed, Jack. Or actually, this is not the fattest burger there is, but my favorite burger, it's obviously the apple pan.
Mmm. My favorite.
Oh, I've been to apple pan. Apple pan's great.
I used to live next door to there. It's on P right is it pico west westwood and pico yeah yeah been there done that i agree but may i have an argument please you got a rebuttal i gotta do the rebuttal okay yeah we talking fries well done jack of course and you get a slice of pie a la mode afterwards i do if i'm feeling nasty i do.
Dude, you know what the real weird thing is?

If you go a hickory cheeseburger and the tuna sandwich,

but you split that in half with a friend.

Oh, my God.

So you keep it sensible.

This is hot.

Oh, dude, I didn't even know you could do that.

And then I like to take them extra well-done fries

and get a little bit of scoop of tuna and ketchup.

Oh, I didn't know that they had that.

Have you ever thought about doing a Jack Black's restaurant i should do a restaurant i did think about it for a minute um at the peak of like kung fu panda and nacho libre i was like i could do a fusion restaurant kung fu nachos nacho panda but then i thought about it. I was like, wait, do I really want those flavors together? The sweet and sour taco? Yeah.
Yeah, dude. Maybe.
Nacho Panda. I mean, fucking Danny Trejo does it.
Okay, what is that? Is that Danny Trejo? That's my Danny Trejo impression. Eh, fool.
You know? But it's on brand for Danny Trejo. He's Mexican, so he can pull off a Mexican restaurant and do it well.
He also has a Chinese restaurant, though, too, to be fair. No, he does not.
I'm very gullible. No, he doesn't.
Can I do my fucking counter argument? God. Nah, we're over it.
No, no, no, do it. Yeah, thank you so much, Jack.
All right, so I'll tell you why Smashburgers, number one, okay? Yeah. You want a thick fucking piece of meat in there, right? What happens? It bleeds into the fucking bun, and now you got this bloody bun, right, that you have to fucking chew.
It's soak. It's soaky.
It's muddy. Interesting.
All right? Yeah. But a Smashburger doesn't have a lot of juices that come out.
Right. Right? It's also more compact.
It's better to hold. It's like you.
Yeah. Yeah.
Where's your favorite? Where's your favorite? Well, let me tell you something right now, Jack. I'm glad you asked, okay? Right now, I Okay right now I go to HiHo Have you heard of it? It sounds like maybe there's some Fusion in there is there some Korean Flavors on there? No no no Why do they call it HiHo? That was the guy's name No it is because I'll tell you why Because it's the owner of Sugarfish Maybe his name is just Ho and you say HiHo Oh baby baby So I go there and then it's the owner of Sugarfish.
Yeah. Maybe his name's just Ho, and you say, hi, Ho.
Hi, Ho. Oh, baby, baby.

So I go there, and then- He's the owner of Sugarfish.

Yeah.

Yeah, same guy.

There's got to be some fusion in their Japanese burger.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, maybe.

Those are fish fries.

Yeah, the umami's definitely in it.

Yeah.

And let me say something else, okay?

Then I also go to Heavy Handed now.

You go to Heavy Handed?

Dude, I'm going straight to Hi-Ho.

You got to go there, dude. It's pretty good.
It's so good. I like all that lettuce and stuff in there.
Yeah. Ooh.
It's so good, dude. And so, you know, next time when you eat this, then we'll have the discussion.
You know what I mean? But I think that without you eating this, Jack, you don't even know what you're talking about. Are those pickles? Yes, please.
He knows what he's talking about. And also, Andrew, can I say this? Last thing about Hi-Ho.
I'm not there. I have nothing to do with the fucking company.
Maybe it's a Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs reference, though. Hi-Ho.
Hi-Ho. It's off to Burger Go.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So anyway, go there.
And also, can I say something? This is the first restaurant where the photo looks like the thing. Ah, yeah.
Can I say another thing, though? When I do go, I'll probably walk there and back to walk off all the extra calories. How many steps to walk off a hi-ho? A lot.
A lot. How many calories in a hi-ho burger? I actually want to find out.
At least 12,000 steps. Really? I never look at calories.

We know you don't.

That's a big issue.

I will say this, though.

Yeah.

Oh, that's only-

Some of the best burgers I've ever had at Mexican restaurants.

Hamburguesa.

Hamburguesa.

They got the flavor.

A lot of Mexican cooks.

Yeah.

They put the seasonings in there that taste extra good. Hamburguesa there's a place called yucca's little taco stand yeah but guess what what a great cheeseburger no at yucca's yeah my favorite burger in la is is only because it's uh nostalgic for me but there's a place on the west side where um uh venice meets the water called um hanano do you know about hanano you uh oh i don't know if you said that earlier if he said that but hanano um is uh an old cafe right on the water almost and jim morrison used to play there used to live around wood chips all over the floor still.
Big deal. One of those old school bars.
Oh my God, you don't like the doors? Big deal. What? Jim Morrison used to play there? Yeah, so Morrison used to live around the corner from there in Venice.
And I guess he would walk there. Look and see if you get the inside of that place.
It's awesome. It's still got wood chips on the ground like the old bars used to.
Yeah, but when you go to a hot dog stand and you see a photo of Barack Obama eating the hot dog. It doesn't do anything for me.
That's all. Let's just move on.
I would think it's probably a good hot dog. Probably, probably, probably.
He's not going to mess around with a substandard hot dog. Wait, wait.
Stay on that photo. Stay on that photo real quick, all right? Diversity.
Already, I like the hamburger because look at that guy. Look at that guy.
He loves it. He loves it.
Yeah, yeah. So on the other side of the bar is where the bands still play still play they still have music there at night see there where the pool table is go to that fourth fifth picture down or whatever you can see there's a pool table so bands play in that corner there and uh it's like an old surf but the best part is the reason i like this is it's always been a cheap affordable burger we used to live on the west side and there is no kitchen they cook the burger right to the taps.
So there's a flat top grill next to the taps. So that's where you get your burger from.
Right there. There it is.
Right when you walk in. Wow.
Slinging them right out front. It's the best.
And this is back when it was before Jim Morrison was in the doors. He would go in there and just like do open mic night? No, no.
No, no. There was nights when he was with the doors.
He go play. The Doors played that hamburger? No.
Jim would play by himself there, would go play. You can go ask him too.
They'll talk about it. Look, there's an original picture of Fernando from back in the day.
How does he play by himself? He just sings. He would just sing and play guitar.
Yeah. Oh.
That's what they said. He would show up there and just sing.
Now, whether that's local lore, I don't care. It's local lore.
They don't have any evidence. They don't have photographic evidence.

No, there's pictures of Jim at the bar.

But I mean, I don't know if that's true, but I like it.

Yeah.

Even if it's not, I don't give a shit I like.

If he hung out there even, I was like, that's kind of fucking rad.

And he was already a rock star, you're saying.

He would also do that.

Already famous, yeah.

He didn't need to perform for free cheeseburgers.

I'm sure he was, if we're being honest, I'm sure he was probably fucked up out of his mind.

Yeah.

He was going there just to like rail one out and play.

And then, ironically enough or coincidentally when i moved from the west side to west hollywood i lived next door to jim morrison's last known residence on norton norton avenue in west hollywood i like the doors that's i did this just i really i did this to find out if you like the door there's lots of people that don't like the doors. I don't know what it is, but they do rub people the wrong way.
I'm on the camp that the doors rule. They fucking rock.
Of the doors. Also, Phil Manzarek.
Is that the piano? Yep, close enough. What is it? Manzarek.
Yeah, Phil Manzarek. Okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ray Manzarek.
Ray. That was the Phil that was the one.
Yeah. Ray Manzarek, right, because he did the bass lines as well on the keyboards, right? Yeah.
You were thinking of like Phil Collins combo? Who were you thinking of? I don't know. I got nervous.
Phil Manzarek. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, he does. There's no bass player.
He gets the bass on his keyboards. Amazing.
So cool. So fucking cool.
And the thing about The Doors, too, Jim Morrison had the best voice, best screaming. Like, he could sing better than anyone of his generation, I would say.
You probably are one of the best scream singers, too. You're very good.
Thank you. You know that.
I'm no Jim Morrison, but I can get up there. When did you kind of discover this love of music and performing that you had? Like beyond the acting stuff, the music thing, was that your first love? I loved getting up on a stage and getting attention and ham and cheese and doing theatrics when I was a little kid.
Loved putting on a show from as far back as I can remember. music music i liked it like listening to it but i didn't really get into singing until later till like high school when i when i got into the the musical theater because those were the the the good opportunities to get up on stage and i was singing uh in uh a little show called pippin i don't hear about pippin 1970s musical and uh i remember auditioning to get into pippin and singing and i had to really like scrape the pan

is what they call it when you get up to the top of your voice and you kind of gotta yeah get up

there and like there's a little bit of distortion in your vocal pipes and i remember there was a

girl who was auditioning uh right after me and she the way she looked at me when i scraped the pan

Thank you. and there's a little bit of distortion in your vocal pipes.
And I remember there was a girl who was auditioning right after me, and the way she looked at me when I scraped the pan, no one had ever looked at me like that before. And I was like, I think I like this music.
Oh, she looked at you in a ooh-la-la. It was a different, yes, there was a thing.
I love ooh-la-la. Don't you love ooh-la-la? Everybody likes ooh-la-la.
Dude, that's one of my favorite vibes. You're Mr.
Ooh la la.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I mean, that wasn't the only reason.

I do love music and I love doing it,

but there was something about that audition

that changed things.

But you realized that you had the thing.

That I had, maybe I had a little something.

Maybe I had something I could work with.

It's surprising you never did stand up.

Yeah, no stand up for me.

Probably better than it.

What?

He's better than it. I know he's better than it, but I'm just saying.
It's a low, it's a low saying it's a low it's a low it's a low bar it's a low it's a low it's hanging fruit it's low rent art you know what it is it's writing and i do like to improvise i've done a lot of improv classes and and and some improv in some of the the sketches i've done but the best improvisers are like really good writers and those stand-up comedians you got to be a real writer and i don't really think of myself that way i do i do too i think you i mean i mean you never thought about trying it i have thought about it because i've been around it a lot when me and kyle were doing tenacious d we would go and play these clubs and all these brilliant stand-ups would go up there but it takes a kind of courage and i always liked having that security blanket of being a part of a team and if it went sideways i could always say it was his fault and having the guitars and the music was also uh uh it was a it was our thing that set us apart from the other comedy acts but also maybe secretly a little bit of a crutch it's like I would get the music here it I don't know that we all have a crutch though We all have our crutches. Yeah, we all I do the same things Oh, I think sometimes you're the things that you think these are like little devices that I've created to save a set When I was I was I just did a show with Bert at not Savannah, Georgia.
I forgot where we were I don't remember I know cuz you, because you weren't there. You were in the South.
I was in the South. You called me.
Right. And so Big Jay, I told you I bombed, right? Yeah.
So Big Jay Oakerson, and it's about 10,000 people in the audience. Yeah.
Big Jay Oakerson has the set of the night. Destruction.
And also we're in the South, and that's his people. What does that even he's from Baltimore he speaks their language yeah yeah yeah he's like a kind of like a filthy white can I say filthy white you know what I mean he's not clean white he's not John Mulaney yeah he's a filthy white he's a filthy white right I don't think he'd be offended if I said that right I'm a filthy yellow he's a great white yeah yeah he's a great white killing it and I'm literally I turn to Leanne Burt's wife yeah and I go I'm gonna struggle and she goes no you're fine sweetie love you it's all about love these audiences I go I'm gonna struggle and I hear my name come up and I go up there and dude I struggle oh shit and then I I started doing, You know I have a bag of tricks Bag of tricks Right so this is one of my I don't want to reveal it But I'm going to do it Do it One of my bag of tricks is I'll do three minutes And if somebody Sits down Like when they went to the bathroom I'll go Fuck where were you And they're like I went to the bathroom I go I gotta start over so I'll leave the stage I'll run out and then restart my set doing the same jokes and that usually kills it did worse than the original they were like we see through it that's almost as if they said that we see through your little antics your little tricks right i did it all what could you have done nothing i bombed what do you do when you're in a situation when you guys aren't being well received ah no they're always well received no there have been a couple times but uh especially if you're going and playing festivals where there's a hundred thousand people there that really came to see Metallica or whoever, you got to win some people over.
And what I do is the mantra is don't forget to pretend to have a good time. Why? Because if you just stay in that, just keep on pretending like you're loving it and enjoying it eventually you will start to and that and then they'll uh that's the hope and the dream and then they'll pick up on that energy and they'll start to enjoy it too because if you're suffering and and you're what did you say struggling struggling yeah uh it's like yeah there's blood in the water there's blood in the water they can sense it they're like an animal yeah yeah they can see your fear yeah yeah i tell people when they're doing the tonight show i go so because i saw i'm not gonna name the name can i just whisper it yeah do that back in the day i think before i did stand up i i saw um who we love yeah he's our dude the tonight show and he didn't do well even as a non-stand-up at the time I went oh shit this guy's a legend He's not doing well Live TV's so hard Right so when I'm So what I tell you I can do this Yeah you're done Yeah it's crazy So anyway But when I saw Young Comic I go just You're on TV They can sweeten it You know what I mean Just pretend you're killing Smile You know what I mean If you're eating And you know we know that at clubs If you're bombing You know what I mean Just kind of Give it killing.
Smile. You know what I mean? If you're eating.
And we know that at clubs. If you're bombing, you know what I mean? Just kind of.
Give it to them. It's the same thing.
Yeah. I shouldn't even said any of that, right? Because it's just that you already said it.
No. Now I feel like a fool.
Now I look like a fool. You do not.
I wasn't listening at all because I was thinking the next thing I was going to say. Go ahead.
Good to see it. Because the truth is, no matter what your approach is, if you have a technique of what to do uh mantras don't really work because you know okay don't forget the thing to always do the thing the thing is always going to be different every show yeah not the same but what i've noticed is like we'll have a great show and then we'll have a bad show and after the bad show i usually have a good one the next one because i'll usually be like you know what i was trying too hard it's always it's my number one problem is trying too hard and i go this next time i'm not gonna try too hard i'm gonna kind of actually this sounds horrible i'm gonna kind of phone it in a little bit yeah if you phone it you throw it away you don't care as much that's when the magic happens yeah yeah magic happens.
I have another couple of questions for you. Yeah.
All right. It's about acting.
Yeah. Real quick.
Real quick. Okay.
How do you do it? No, no, no. No.
When you're in a scene and you're in the background, not in the background, but there's a wide shot, right? And you're supposed to have a conversation with somebody. Do you do what I do? I'm sure there's a better technique,

but you say watermelon a thousand times.

Is that something that you do?

Or do you just kind of improvise?

I always go, what do you say?

Yeah, cheese and potatoes.

That's the cheese and potatoes.

I mean, it is some of the hardest shit

when you're not supposed to be pulling focus,

but you don't want to be a strange creature that's not human back there. So, yeah.
How do you act in the background? Yeah, yeah, yeah. There should be a class on it.
You're right. What do I do with my hands? And then let me ask you another question.
When you're tongue-tied, you know what I mean? You have a big thing, chunky thing you have to say. Yeah.
And you're tongue-tied. Does this work? Because this works for Red leather, yellow leather.
Yeah. Well that's one of the many things you can, I have a bunch of them.
I know how to do it to you guys. A big black bug bit a big brown bear.
Geese cattle, cattle low, crow's cock, cock's crow. Eight great geese in a green field grazing.
I can go on for hours. Keep doing it.
I want to see them all. Six thick thistle sticks.
Lucy likes light literature. Amos Ames, the amiable aeronaut, aided in an aerial enterprise at the age of 88.
Some shun sunshine. Do you shun sunshine? Fine white wine vinegar with veal.
Did you memorize that or are you just improvising that? I memorized it way back in my 20s. Whoa, dude.
The theater student. Whoa, do you know how to do any of those? No, I'm not a good actor.
Yeah, yeah. Let me try to improvise that maybe.
Can I challenge myself? Some shun sunshine. Do you shun sunshine? That's good.
Ricardo Valenzuela is off the hockey stick. No.
No, that's not working. Ricardo Valenzuela? Yeah, yeah.
La Valencia Hotel is incognito with John Smith. This is coming through you? Yeah, it's coming through you.
I'm like channeling you. Right.
Montgomery Ward is within each other's hemisphere, creating lots of dozens of laughs. Oh, man.
Yeah. What do you think? You're just letting it spill.
Now I can tell that's just coming off the top of your day. Dude, I'm like channeling it, dude.
I don't need to memorize it. Especially because Montgomery Ward hasn't been around in like 30 years.
Department stores that are out of commission, that's amazing. Is that what it is? Montgomery Ward? I've never even heard of it before.
I just channeled it. It used to be a department store.

I channeled it, dude.

That's amazing.

I've never been saying it.

That's something from San Diego youth there popping up.

What do you mean, bud?

That was the mall.

At the mall.

Oh, yeah.

Montgomery Ward at the mall.

Montgomery Ward, yeah, yeah.

That was an actual place, huh?

Pretty cool, dude.

Dude, the channeling was incredible.

Thank you so much.

I can channel a lot.

Channel, baby.

What?

Channel, baby.

Let it rip.

Let it rip.

All right.

Channel.

Buggle Beach where it doesn't create Nothing but eyesores Whoa What do you think Channel again Channel more Alistair Montgomery and the skyline Creating algorithms within each other's foot Montgomery came out again though As soon as there's your repeater I think it kills the I fucked it. I fucked it.
You're right. I fucked it.

I can't channel anymore. It's dead.

Alright. You can't go double

and channel.

My father never loved me.

Is that

that's the same thing? It's not the same thing.

Keep going. Keep going.
More channeling.

Okay. Why didn't

he love me?

Why did you never come to my baseball games? I just wanted to see your face. Good, that was good.
Wow. I don't think you should do that on set, though.
No? Yeah, yeah, yeah, that'd be weird. Someone's like, man, you can't get your lines right.
I'm like, one second. Daddy! Wait, is this an acting exercise? This helps you be a better actor if you channel good right before you go out to act? I think so.
That's right, guy. It's kind of cool.
It's like you're flushing out the clogs in your emotions. You got to shake out all the bullshit.
Can I try? Yeah, go ahead. All right.
Fuck-a-shack-a-lick-a-ding-dong. Why do I live in a world of dreams? The space is infinite.
If you go to the end, you'll see the devil. No, you won't.
He doesn't exist. That's what he wants you to think.
Cock! Wow, dude. You know the channel, too.
It just got very... Very good, dude.
I don't know what just happened. Whoa.
Did I say words? Yeah, that was incredible.

It definitely didn't end with cock, I'll tell you that.

That was fucking incredible.

Wow.

Do you ever, I feel like you don't, what are you doing?

I was trying to see my channel.

Yeah, can you channel?

I closed my eyes.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Are you channeling?

Yeah, yeah.

Machine tire wind dropping turbulence.

Waves crashing. Penis pain.
There it is. Dude, so good.
That's what I'm talking about. Dude, you got it out of your system.
That feels good. Carlos, you want to give a try? Let Carlos do it.
Come on, baby. Come on, baby.
Channel. Shamalelo ding dong algorithm.
Wait, stop, stop, stop. Time out.
Time out. Wait, is there a wrong way to channel? You think that was...
I said algorithm already. Yeah.
Oh, he's not allowed to channel anything you channeled. Yeah, you can't channel my shit.
I felt like Shamalama ding dong. I kind of covered that too.
Yeah, you covered that too. So can you do your own channeling? do a channel hack? I think we just learned.
You need a channel hack, dude. Channel hack.
You're not real, dude. That's really true.
You don't have the ability, dude. I didn't know Jack did Shamalama the ding dong.
It's also, it wasn't Shamalama ding dong. There was a ding and a dong, but I think the Shamalama was all you.
I don't think this is fair for us to be telling him he can't channel the way. If part of his channeling is stealing our channels, that's a channel.
I know, but it just doesn't feel creative to me. It feels like a channel theme.
But to be, let's be fair, the channeling is for you to do alone in your trailer right before Martin Scorsese calls you to the set. This is something that Leo DeCapp will do before his Oscar-winning performance.
Yeah. In, again, Once Upon a Time, Hollywood 2.
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
I love that movie. So, you know what? You're right.
I made fun of you just now. I know.
You're not a channel. You're a basic guy.
No, just be real. You're a basic guy.
Be nice. I'm being nice.
Be nice. You're basic nice you're basic you know i mean you like pumpkin spice like the white girls you know i mean you have your routine during the day you know what it is he's got more balance in his life again how many days sober now what are we talking we're at like we're at like nine months around there wait no more like six The that's how that's how i know he's not but there's something awry oh no it's because i'm not going to meetings i'm not keeping track uh where you go from nine months to six months that's a three-month gap there it's a big gap well it's a summer i was trying to remember what month it was right now and because you usually i'm just i, I'm sorry, I don't want to be in an argument.
And congratulations, by the way. But my point being is that because I count days, you know exactly what day you need.
You know how many days it's been. Yeah, yeah.
When you're going nine months, I mean six months, it's a little weird. No, because I'm not happy about it.
I'm not, like, thrilled about being sober right now. Right.
Like, I'm not counting. Well, then go to a fucking meeting.
That is definitely the solution, is to go to a meeting. Yeah, I don't want to get into that right now.
Okay, let's move on then. Anyway, you look great, though.
Congratulations. Keep Carlos around.
You're so great. It's fucking wonderful.
Hey, you're alive. That's all that matters, right, guys? Thank you, Josh.
That is true. So can we talk about Borderlands or no? Yeah, let's talk about it.
Oh, yes. The reason I'm here.
Yes. Yeah.
Just kidding. i've always wanted to be on your show what the movie that you guys did wait okay we have a three-way connection right you did the film together correct my one of my closest friends is a producer on the movie so this when he told me he was she told me he was gonna get the role or they were gonna whatever you know and i auditioned i auditioned and it was a cool i was like i knew before he knew it was kind of a sweet little nugget of life and i was like oh this is amazing and then it's opened his world to all these great people and it's just been a i saw the trailer looks fucking amazing i saw it before they put it out which i thought was was really cool.
But it looks rad. What's a bummer about it, though, is because when I found out you're in it, but then I realized you're not going to be there.
Oh, so you were out in Bulgaria going, where the fuck is Jack Black? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then I realized, oh, he's claptrap.
This is bullshit. But we still kind of worked together.
Yeah, we did one table read. Yep.
I remember that day. A Zoom table.
Yeah, but you crushed it. And can I tell you what happened to me at that table? Can I tell you what happened? Yeah.
All right, so, Jack, I want to be vulnerable, and I want to be, you know, because I know sometimes people think I'm cool. And I got my shit together, like, oh, yeah, he's got all, you know.
There you are though that's incredible look zoom in there he is you got the smallest picture but thanks for putting dude made the poster i made the post that's fucking huge hell yeah fucking amazing so here's so who's the guy in the middle oh who's that guy in the dead center kevin hart kevin hart that's kevin that's right with the beret yeah like you've never seen him before yeah yeah special forces yeah edgar ramirez is a lot so anyway i get the movie and jack i'll be honest with you i've never been in a movie with that kind of this kind of cast before caliber of stars yeah it's just stacked right yeah and i i let me be vulnerable yeah i'm nervous as fuck let's be honest be honest I don't know if you're remembering me

Oh real nervous

You thought you might lose the job over the zoom performance

Exactly

Not a chance

So this is what happens

Chance by the way

What happens is

Eli's assistant or something calls me

And goes hey dude there's not going to be a lot of people to table read

At the zoom

He goes I'm going to text you a list of characters

That you're going to be playing

I think that's like 20 names. So now I'm panicking.
Like, oh, I can't get fired from so many different angles now. Right.
So for days, bro, highlight even the, you know what I mean, the sergeant or whatever, right? And I'm trying to memorize everything and like their point of view or whatever, whatever. Different sounding voices.
Different sounding voices, right? I go, I have to kill here. Yeah.
This is my shot, right? So when we get on Zoom, like I'm there five minutes earlier and I'm looking at all the boxes. There's so many boxes, right? And in my mind, I was like, I don't know if I'm playing 20 parts.
I'm just, you know what I mean? It seems like there's, right? And I'm glad I did this. Two minutes before we're about to start, I text the guy again.
I go, are you sure about these 20 names? He goes, oh, no, I forgot to tell two oh my god so if I hadn't called I would have been interrupting somebody yeah you would have been interrupting 18 people I know thank god I mean would that have been bad oh yeah I think that would have been what was bad though is that they made you rehearse 20 different roles, and really it was only two that you had to... Yeah, it was mean.

Because you put in some hours, it sounds like, and some stress, lost a little sleep.

They owe me money, is what you're saying.

Okay, yeah.

Is that what they're saying?

What are we talking about here, dude?

Get a lawyer?

Yeah.

Oh, no.

Yeah, it was stressful, but, you know, it's fine.

I'll tell you what, when I found out you were in it, I was like, that's rad're lucky we are lucky to have you on that movie because you're fucking hilarious oh god bless you you can relax about the worrying about getting canned they yeah they're thanking their lucky stars because you're killing it yeah yeah it was also just a very positive experience i'll tell you that right now you know what has currency that people don't really realize if you like kill it in like a social media post that has just as much if not more like power in the industry than like having a zippy cameo in a major motion picture if you fucking crush it like you do on the regular on social media on like podcasts or on like interviews and other people's shit, that stuff counts a lot. A lot of eyeballs, a lot of clicks.
Jack, I appreciate that. And I'll tell you the difference between me and Andrew and the other podcasters, right? The other podcasters, they understand that, but him and I, for some reason, and I know you're like this, some of our dreams are still tied up with television and movies yeah because we're a little older you know i mean we're just we were same right so it's like i think we gotta i i i want to talk about yours i talked about me i have to sort of kind of you know i mean kind of unlearn that you know i mean and find that this is the dream yeah but i do we like the

other no we love the other stuff but i'm just saying but you are right i i think that um it's great no but i'm saying i love it i'm saying that it's uh it's actually also working in the industry when the casting agency is a thing that really makes them laugh hard it doesn't matter what the the venue is. They see you killing it in a post.
People get cast off of that just as much as anything else nowadays. I know, but you did it the traditional way, right? I mean, you got a manager, agent, you took acting classes.
You auditioned for a commercial. I mean, you kind of moved your way up.
I don't know, right? And there was like a clear pathway of a way to do it. And I think you and I were the same way, right, Arneau? Well, yeah, for a little bit.
And then the industry kind of changed. Yeah, it changed.
Wait, do you guys have a headshot that on the back has four different activities? 100%. Yeah.
See, we're old school like that. Soccer.
The kids today, they don't have those headshots with the things. Yeah, the skateboarding.
Yeah. Yeah.
Ken Ollie, not not Ken Cliff. Languages.
I don't know any other language but English, but I would put like five things on there. I had eating cereal was one of the pictures.
I can eat cereal commercial. Yeah, yeah.
It's crazy. When we used to have to bring in those fucking headshots, it was so demeaning, and they'd throw it in a pile, and you were like, that cost me $4.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
They'd throw it away. You know, you'd get stacks of them in your fucking car.
I was around when your agent would call you and go, are you having an audition tomorrow? Okay, cool. All right, come pick up the sides.
And so I would go to an alleyway, you know what I mean? And they would have like a filing thing. Yeah.
And I would have to look up L, Lee, like i'd have to drive there you know what i mean and there'd be sometimes a line of other actors there once i learned that they were acronyms for agencies i would make up fake acronyms of an agency i would just i'd type in three letters it'd be like cbcbf or whatever cbf creative agency or whatever yeah they would never check why would they ever even check? It was just like the guy who was my manager was out of his studio apartment next to the Magic Castle. That's a hack.
Yeah. Wow.
I mean, it got me enough around where I got to sneak into shit. But that's what you used to have to staple your headshot to your resume or whatever.
Yeah. Another thing people would go is like fucking hated hated that.
Are you in SAG? My points, I'm building up the points or whatever, right? That was a whole thing. If you were in SAG or not, you know what I mean? It was a catch 22.
You couldn't get a job unless you were in SAG, but you can't get SAG unless you get a job. Right.
And then there was this mysterious thing called Taft Hartley. I don't know what the fuck that is.
Am I even saying it right? Yeah, Taft, yeah. Taft.
Well, they merged. Aftra and SAG merged.
But Taft Hartley was how you got into the back doors. I said it right, right? Yeah.
Okay, good. Yeah, you did.
Yeah, yeah. Thank you so much.
Inside baseball talk. But the truth is, if the director really wants you, they'll find a way to get you into SAG to do the movie.
It just costs a little more money. It's a little more hassle, but.
That happened. Mark Pellington, the guy that directed the first thing I ever did when the studio I worked at as a PA, I got this role to deliver Luke Wilson a pizza.
And then they overshot. And the PA, I did 13 hours in a trailer, just like sitting, waiting, sitting, waiting, like excited, excited.
The PA came and was like, cut in your scene, i was like oh my god fucking killed me dude yeah and then mark peloton was smoking a cigarette uh by the way that director mark peloton famously directed if i'm not wrong jeremy pearl jam's jeremy i think that was great song i think that's what he did look that up but he was smoking a cigarette or something or hanging out by the trailers and he was like oh i heard they fucking cut your shit i was like yeah and then i wanted to be like didn't you cut my shit yeah yeah yeah and then uh he was like we'll get you back dude we'll lie lie no he was true they brought me back as a hospital orderly uh and they gave me a line i was like sir you can't be out of your room wait that's you no that's man that's the word jeremy yeah that's jeremy no but he was cool man that was a fucking really rad thing but that's that was what you need those little tiny moments sometimes to like give you a little bit more hope because after that i thought fuck man i was so excited to have one line to maybe get the union, to be able to get another job. It's a huge thing.
That dude did a big favor. You know, talking about that and about Borderlands, sorry to bring it back.
No, don't. But it made me think of a story about how I met Kevin Hart years before we did Jumanji together.
And it was just sort of a general, general meeting.

He was kind of new and up and coming and he was going around.

We were at the same agency and he was going around meeting all the,

the different people at the agency to just talk about maybe developing

something. And we had a good like meeting,

just hitting it off, talking about things that we liked.

And then years later I got that call to do jumanji and it was kevin i know it was kevin that got me in into that room because even though i had a lot of success before jumanji i was in a little bit of a dip and i was like god i gotta get another gig and i remember thinking that that uh kevin hart he's a stand-up guy he's a great guy yeah He said we were going to work together, and he went out of his way, I believe, and made it happen, which is cool. You even think you've been in dips? Yeah, that's the thing.
No matter how good it goes, this industry is a fucking Leviathan, and you never know when it's going to end. And you see it all the time the time people get ejected off the roller coaster and it's such a fun job and it's such a fun life the name of the game is staying in it and you can feel it as soon, cause like if you're in like a wave of like oh I'm getting lots of gigs, this is going fucking great it's gangbusters and you can almost go like fuck i can't wait for a break when is the google calendar going to be empty so i can just chill but then as soon as it gets empty yeah you don't have anything on the horizon yeah there's a panic oh yeah ice cold water in the veins like oh fuck i gotta get something and yeah you get those moments i think everybody has has well i'm glad to hear that we're glad to hear that you get them them all the time.
That's how we feel all the time. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Where I'm like, oh, my God, I'm dead. Yeah.
They don't like me. I guess it's the Ken Jeong-Randall Park show now.
Okay. All right.
I guess the Ronnie Chang, you know what I mean? You'll never be Ken Jeong. I'm out.
I'm out. You're out.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're out.
Yeah. No, you're right.
Also, can I say this? I'm fine. I'm grateful.
I'm so grateful. You should be.
Yeah, I'm so happy. Yeah, life is good.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So Borderlands comes out August what? August 9th.
Borderlands is going to come out August 9th. You must go see this movie.
Yeah. If you're in a theater and you do see the trailer pop up, those look really good.
You're in two scenes. You're in two scenes.
We've got a scene together where I'm claptrap the robot in the bar and you're in the bar. Oh, that's right.
I remember now. I turn around.
Now, I was all pre-recorded so maybe you heard my voice when you were shooting it or maybe you didn't. I did hear it.
Maybe someone was reading claptrap for me. I did hear it.
But you were in Bulgaria kicking. Was it Bulgaria? It wasn't.
But I love when you say it. I don't even know where you were.
Budapest. Budapest.
Budapest. Budapest.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I also want to talk about how just something about Eli Roth.
You worked with him with the clock. Yep.
Yeah, right. And you were with Kate before too.
Yep. But I just, I mean, I've done some things and I just love that guy as a director because he makes you feel comfortable man yeah it's really fun really fun to work with yeah yeah and uh also good stories yeah he's got great stories yeah yeah yeah and i'll say this one other thing about the movie it's got vibes that are kind of like did you ever see um total recall with schwarzenegger love it's got that kind of vibes where it's a it's another planet and it's and it's kind of like a rough and ready it's like a hard neighborhood uh world and it's kind of like a desert and it's squash buckling and it's death defying and kick-ass a lot of good explosions so you saw the movie oh yeah don't be jealous it's squash buckling and it's death defying and kick ass a lot of good explosions so you saw the movie? oh yeah don't be jealous it's not just because I got a sneak a peek yeah I'm sorry he's famous I know but he saw the movie no dude but no I saw it but it still had the numbers on the bottom and the thing and the watermark so I'd be in trouble.
But you saw it from beginning to end. I would have forwarded it to you but I couldn't.
It had the watermark. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You do know he recorded it. He's been selling it.
Oh, right, right, right, right. He's been bootlegged.
I'm glad you said that because I don't know what the movie's going to be like. It's going to be great.
We're all going to go together. You're going to come? We're going to have a family outing.
I think it's going to be amazing. It's got that kind of road warrior like uh post-apocalyptic vibes i'm really kind of excited do you have anything else you want to plug that like coming up um i did a a little movie called minecraft but that's not gonna be telling you uh they did it based on the video game i only do video games dude yeah i just basically do whatever my my sons tell me.
Now, Minecraft, how is that going to be a movie? Exactly. Oh, we have to figure it out.
Well, it's not obvious. It's like, that can't be a movie, can it? Yeah.
Can it? Yes, it can. It can.
Wow. What's that going to be like? Yeah.
That's harder to describe. I'm not even going to try.
Oh, really? But it's a combo of live action it's me it's not a cartoon yeah and uh and animated like like computer animated like the world of minecraft like you see it when you play it wow there's there's humans like uh what's another movie like that roger rabbit yeah tron right yeah closer to tron yeah yeah yeah uh and it's uh it's pretty rad and it's pretty funny my old pal Jared Hess who directed Nacho Libre is at the helm Napoleon Dynamite too right Napoleon Dynamite if you need him and Jason Momoa it's me and him and some great kids and yeah yeah, look for that next year, probably around April 1st-ish. Wow, dude.
Awesome. That's fucking awesome.
Danielle Brooks, amazing, in The Color Purple recently. She kicks ass as well.
Also, great singer, that Danielle Brooks. What? She's in this too? Yeah.
Jesus. And there might be a tiny little bit of music, but I don't know know what i'm allowed to say it's one of those where they don't want you to talk well you wrote some of the soundtrack i mean there might be i'm saying there might be so i'm not gonna get in trouble for it we'll wait and see minecraft but have you i've never played the game because i do love i am building rocks and shit and playing fucking Minecraft.
That might not be a song. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's going to be PG. But I don't know.
I don't know. Should I play it? Minecraft? Yeah.
Because I like building world. I like building, but it's like so blocky.
I don't even know how it works. Dude, it's really fun, but it is like learning a language.
You got to spend some time learning the world. I did it because my boys were deep into Minecraft for a long time, and I wanted just to speak of their language.
So I learned how to do it, and then I got into it. It's like architectural.
Wow. You will be building buildings and digging tunnels and making progress.
But do you raid other... Is there combat in it or what? There is fighting at nighttime.
If you get caught outside of a shelter, you will have to scrape and scrap to survive. And there will be zombies.
There will be exploding thingies. I can't remember what they're called.
Creepers. Creepers.
This is true. Fighting should only be at night, by the way.
That makes the most sense. Yeah.
Daytime is for chilling out. What do you mean? Nighttime is for fighting.
What do you mean? Well, I don't fight. There shouldn't be daytime battles in these games.
It should be only at night. It's cooler, it's sexier, it's darker.
I guess you're right. Yeah.
Night fight, dude. Night fight.
Remember Silent Hill? Yes. You guys all remember or no? Yeah, the video game.
Silent Hill. When it first came out.
Oh. It was so fucking scary.
Because it was, you know, the first game where it was dark, like foggy. And there was just creatures that would come run out at you, and it was scary and jumpy.
And you would have like a, I forgot what you had, but you had an apparatus. But there was an elementary school there.
And you were not supposed to go over there, remember? know my parole over says that no but um no but um there's little kids like demons and stuff oh yeah i found that so fucking scary you know i mean there he is anyway looks kind of like uh michael cera yeah yeah a little bit like he could play he could play in the movie. So, Jack, I want to say, number one, what a pleasure to have you on.
Truly. It was, because we didn't know how it was going to go.
Me neither. I was scared.
No, but it was probably the best time I've had. Since MCG was in here last week.
Everything's different, but this was like, it felt like you were already a part of the ecosystem of podcasting it felt like having Shane Gillis or somebody on it just felt natural and you know how to add information and you're silly and it was just a blast and if you ever need to plug anything you're always welcome back hey how about this if it ever comes a time when all three of us have empty google calendars yeah we get together and we fucking come up with some shit i like this a lot you know what i mean that's what happens this you circle the wagons i'm gonna circle it too we'll circle the wagons over a cheeseburger which would be really that'd be really nice it be fun, even if the Google Calendar is not him. I want to be in a Western.
I hear you. And I want to be opium den guy.
Wait a second. Well.
Is there an opium den in the Western? What do you mean? In Deadwood and all these towns? Oh, right. Right.
We're like, remember in fucking Once in a Time in America with Robert De Niro. Oh, wow.
Do you remember that one? You're a cinephile.

It's like a Sergio Leone. Not Sergio Leone.

It was a Sergio Leone.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was a prequel to Once Upon

a Time in Hollywood.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And there was that opening.

Right this way, Mr. Joe.
You know what I mean? I've always wanted

to play the opium down guy sitting, you know what I mean?

Yeah, you can do it. What?

You can do it. I think I can do it.

What's going on in that tent?

Oh, we have our opium straight from China my friend Really got opium from China? No Me and my friend here traveled a long way It's weed It's Mexican weed Smoking weed Is this fucking brick weed? You gave me brick weed? Yeah yeah yeah Me and my boy didn't come all the way here for brick weed Anyway Jack, Jack, thank you for being a bad friend. Thank you for being here.

Anytime.

Thank you so much.

Give Jack Black a round of applause. Thank you, guys.

That was fucking amazing.

Awesome.

Awesome. Yeah.
Yeah.

Yeah.