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In 1949, Pinto Colvig, the original voice of Disney's Pluto and Popeye's Pluto, no relation, first appeared on television as yet another character whose popularity would outstrip his own, Bozo the Clown.

Bozo would come to dominate children's television for the next two decades and persist through the turn of the century, though not only portrayed by Colvig as the clown persona was licensed to other performers who would serve as local bozos on different regional television affiliates.

One of those bozo clones was Willard Scott, a happy-go-lucky light entertainer who'd later gained national fame as the gregarious meteorologist of NBC's Today Show, the Al Roker of his day.

In 1963, prior to his Weatherman stint, Scott was hired to play a Bozo derivative clown in a fast food television commercial, and so he created his own simulacrum named Ronald.

In Scott's telling, quote, there was something about the combination of hamburgers and bozo that was irresistible to kids, end quote.

And like Bozo, Ronald would outgrow its creator and first portrayer, becoming central to the fast food brand's marketing toward children over the decades.

Today, the word bozo is more often employed as slang, meaning dumbass or dipshit, and bozo himself is less known than his imitators and parodies, like Ronald or The Simpsons, Krusty the Clown.

Though also these days, Ronald, once inseparable from happy meals and play places, has been hidden by his corporate master due to negative associations with the clown scare of 2016 and the child obesity crisis.

Much like the company's line of ice cream, shakes, and McFlurry's, the character introduced as Ronald the Hamburger happy clown is on ice.

This week on Doughboys, we return to McDonald's for ice cream.

Welcome to Doughboys, the podcast about chain restaurants.

I'm Tiger Weiger, along with my co-host,

Mr.

Crim, the Spoon Man, Mike Mitchell.

Oh, like Mr.

Grimm.

That's right.

In honor of Twisted Metal Season 2, I thought I'd try coming up with a roast inspired by a character from the series.

This one combines beloved Grimm Reaper cyclist Mr.

Grim with Mitch's preferred name for his shower emissions.

I was a big fan of the games growing up, and I thought they did a great job with season one.

Looking forward to the tournament and more Mitch in season two.

Hashtag spoon nation, Scott Asman, roasted birdfuck.com.

Grim stands for come.

We were trying not to say the word come for a long time.

Explain to our guests.

Dude, you so succeeded.

Good one, dude.

Oh, man.

Remember how Wager was doing it?

Yeah, so good.

We did for, I think it was last year.

Was the year we weren't going to say come?

Maybe, yeah.

Yeah.

And we were, I think we were very successful.

I don't think we said come at all during the show.

Yeah, I don't.

I think we were free and clear for a whole year.

Also, I had a no-nut 2024.

I didn't nut all of last year.

Thank you.

What?

What?

Look, my whole body was blue.

If you catch my drift, more than just the blue balls.

I looked like a freaking smurf.

New Year's Eve.

New Year's 2025.

What are you doing, dude?

Two, one.

Instantly nutting.

Years worth backlog.

Just a big smile on my face.

Yeah, dude.

You need your pipes clean, brother.

What are you doing?

That's bad for your health.

I couldn't even look at Joe when I said I looked like a freaking smurf.

This is how you chose to start the podcast.

It is true.

Well, I will say this, Wax.

Welcome to Twisted Monthal, the final episode.

This is the final episode of Twisted Month.

That's right.

This is the finale of our month-long celebration of season two of Twisted Metal, which is streaming now on Peacock.

We got some Ben Crims as well, referencing Fantastic Four.

Oh, that's good.

Yeah, Ben Crims.

That's funny.

And Speed Away.

That's really good.

That's funny.

Yeah, it's good.

This episode is coming out a month later, but as of this recording, you and our guests just got back from Comic-Con.

That's right.

Speaking of no-nutting, I shared a hotel room with my mom and sister down there.

Great.

So there was a time where I was like, I left something in the hotel room.

And I went back there and

dude, I've lost a thousand swimmers just sitting here right now.

Let me tell you, there were no swimmers at DOA with this with this load.

Just a bunch of ghosts.

It comes out like air.

Flatline sperm.

Guys, I'm haunted.

My mama.

Yeah,

it was a tricky.

I've been on, I took, I've taken Lexapro for my brain fog.

So a lot of people also were like, Mitch is on, whatever.

There was a thing that was a very nice chain, and then there was like one or two mean comments about it.

But they think that some of Long COVID, which

no, I did way more chains than that that were mean.

I don't know about one or two.

They were mostly you saying that long COVID didn't exist.

But they said that long COVID might be a serotonin issue.

So I want to make that clear that that's how I also started taking Lexapro.

Right.

Yeah, no, do you clean your pipes out?

Maybe that serotonin will kick up a little bit.

That is what you're saying.

Let me tell you, there's been an with Lexapro, there has been an issue where I haven't been.

It's actually, I'm feeling great.

I have no interest in any of that stuff anymore.

I think I might be done.

Okay, right.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Believe you.

No, thank you.

Hey, dude, like in a couple weeks when the intervention happens, just give me a call.

I know you got this, dude.

You see the signs, right?

You see the signs.

Is this an intervention?

Oh, no, you're fine right now.

I'm doing great.

No, but when it is.

I'm trying to see if the intervention you guys are going to tell me I have to jack off.

Is that what it's going to be?

I mean, I mean, we're not going to tell you anything, but like,

I think your body's telling you buddy right now.

It's going to be in your best interest to do that.

You know, with the CPAP, I'm getting more dreams, so there's some interesting stuff going on.

But I'm back from Comic-Con watching that.

Whoa!

Let's unpack that little gem of what you want.

More wet dreams or what?

Some interesting dreams.

They're hot.

Okay, well, I mean, there's interesting dreams, and then there's dreams that are going to help the situation.

Are they interesting or are they erotic?

You know, a little from column A, a little from column B.

All right.

There's a lot going on in these dreams.

She's hot, but she's got four different faces on various parts of her body.

I mean,

they're all hot too.

You know what I mean?

That is the sort of thing that I, that is the interest.

There is, I've had very interesting dreams, like, not like that specifically, but they've been.

Yeah.

I think it might have been Comic-Con.

I think I was seeing a lot of cosplay, and I think that maybe that was.

Dude, every time I come here, I disrespect you a little bit more and more.

Are you talking to me or why?

What?

No, we're over here.

We're good.

Starbros texted, and he said, because

they were asking how my situation was, and I said that I had to quickly go back.

What are you guys laughing at over there?

Oh, dude, somebody dropped a name here.

Make it pick that up for somebody trips over it.

It's very dangerous.

Starvros said that I found it off because my mom and sister were sitting with me in the pheromones.

It was a pheromone.

And I want to say that is not what it was.

No,

it could have been.

I had a great time at Comic-Con with our guest, Wages, to my left.

We had a blast.

They show the first two episodes of Twisted Metal, which all of it is now streaming on Peacock.

As of this release day.

As of today.

All of it is streaming on Peacock.

And you're all loving it.

I can tell.

I think they are loving it.

You and I have both seen the entire show.

Yes, we have.

And it's good, Wages.

I'm looking forward to seeing it.

You liked the first season.

I love the first season.

He was your favorite, right?

It's true, of course.

Once again, dude, just more and more every time.

It was the two of you.

It's like the, that's the, that's the, that they never

do.

I have a blast.

Well, look, look, let, Emma, let's hit him with the drop first.

And then we got

an intro our guest.

Wax,

it's our first Doughboys after dark.

How so?

You're making the sound of a trumpet, which hits a saxophone in the song, and then you're pantomiming a guitar.

Door is after dark, baby.

Okay, oh

yeah.

Look.

Nice final chord.

You like the final chord?

You're sitting there just looking straight ahead.

No, just taking it all in.

It's kind of this aquatic ambiance, kind of this David Wise from Ducky Kong Country sort of feel to it.

Very liquid television.

Very much so.

Nice little auto-tune on your rendition of

Careless Whispers.

We have, which was just my own cover of it, and they weren't using the song, so it's not going to get NDA'd.

How are you enjoying Benevolent?

NDA'd.

Whoa, hey.

easy killer.

Wow, look at Big Hollywood.

Already got his all forms all set up for his new lifestyle.

I never signed it.

What the fuck is it called?

DMC-8, I think.

DCMA.

DCMA's DCM-A'd.

Also, we'd need to have you sign NDA.

Don't say that to our female employees.

Sometimes we like to get a little sleazy.

Jemmy put her paw print on an NDA.

She can't sue us us and dog for it.

Yeah, nice and smooth.

Oh, God.

Come over here.

She knows I love her.

I'm like her uncle.

Stop saying words.

It's getting worse every time.

Yeah, let's take a little five minutes.

Maybe throw it back over to Wag.

Yeah?

You know what?

I like that idea.

Wag, take it away.

JocelynBirdFuck.com.

Hey, returning to the show.

I should read the email.

Oh, yeah, please.

Hi, Doughboys fam.

Here's my take on a Doughboys After Dark theme.

Everything's better after 4:30 p.m.

Best.

Kate.

Wow.

Thanks, guys.

Kate, as a COVID-cautious person, I appreciate hearing you talk about your long COVID journey, Mitch.

All the best.

Hey, that's pretty nice.

Our guest has heard too much about my long COVID journey.

I complained about it for most of the season.

And he's been far too generous with his time coming on the show a number of times.

And he's back from Twisted Metal Season 2, now streaming on a Peacock.

Samoa Joe is here.

Hi, Joe.

Oh, hey, what's up, guys?

How are y'all doing?

I always love being here.

I always love spending time with Mike.

Such a special, special person.

What a sweetie.

Yeah.

So, you know, as he was waiting.

So being here is always a special treat for me.

We always love having you here.

And also, I was going to say, you're a gamer.

Yes.

Why?

Because I was going to ask you what you thought of DK Bonanza.

I'm loving Donkey Kong Bonanza.

I'm not sure if y'all have

a Switch 2 yet.

I have not got my Switch 2 yet.

I was late in the queue, but it is on En route.

Are you still on that?

I feel like you're playing.

Look, Nick and I still mess around with children's games quite a bit, but will you still do the mainline Nintendo games occasionally?

Oh, I mean, mainline Nintendo games are usually masterpieces, so I mean, I don't know why you'd skip them.

I agree.

Yeah, good books.

I mean,

I wouldn't not watch a Studio Ghibli film because it was animated.

Right.

Well, now you're talking about

the wire.

I loved the last Studio Ghibli movie, Ghibli.

I forgot how to say it.

Ghibli,

I just said it.

What was the last movie called?

Boy and the Heron.

Yes, I loved Boy in the Heron.

Yeah, I feel like people were just kind of okay on it.

Well, whatever.

Great picture.

No, that was the.

We had, you know, what one of, I feel like we had like the old masters all had a masterpiece that year.

Boy in the Heron.

Avatar Way of Water was also that year.

And then wasn't also.

Was it?

No, Avatar Way of Water the previous year.

What's the movie I'm thinking of?

Oh, I'm thinking of Scorsese's.

Oh, right.

killers of the flower of fire moon yeah yeah was that all last year i think so my brain is mush yeah because i thought last year was a bad movie year maybe that was 2023 no you just saw a lot of bad movies last year i mean that is also in the movies that is also you know what i think you are wrong wax hold on i'm gonna look it up but get into your bullshit that you do uh joe you also were at comic-con what was your experience like it was it was a blast it was a lot of fun obviously uh uh fans were were very receptive to seeing uh all of our new mayhem this season so yeah it's cool It's cool to go there with something that I think people are genuinely anticipating and wanting to see.

And it was a great experience.

You know, what can I say?

You have fun, meet a lot of people.

People give you free shirts and stuff.

I mean, you know,

the quintessential Comic-Con experience.

It was, it, it, it was a good time.

And, and, Joe, you took out before this, but when we screened the two episodes, uh,

it was great to see at the end of the second episode, there was uh

Richard de Klerk.

That's right.

He made an appearance at the end of episode two.

And it was like a Marvel.

It was a post-credit Marvel thing in the theater we were in.

Everyone went nuts that Grimm had arrived.

It was fun to see people who really loved Twisted Metal going nuts for that.

That's awesome.

Yeah, yeah.

It was great.

It was a fun, a very fun, very fun.

And to be honest, we are fortunate, I think, that most of our cast like genuinely like each other and like to hang out with each other.

Right, right.

It was really cool for us just to kind of reunite.

A lot of us haven't seen each other for months now.

So I always love to hear.

And it's just, it's cool to like hang out, see the cast again, get back together, shoot the bull, go drinking it on other people's expense.

And yeah,

it was a blast.

Yeah, it was fun.

Yeah, because these things take forever.

Because, you know, I remember we were up there for

Mitch.

We did some Doughboys episodes.

We did one with you about Boston Pizza for Toronto.

That was October of last year.

It's July of this year.

And the show is finally July into August of this year.

And the show is finally, and people can see it.

That was a full year ago.

That's wild.

Fucked up.

Crazy.

Yeah.

It's fucked up.

So, when did y'all start shooting season two?

Oh, July.

July.

It was July.

Yeah.

So a full year.

Wow.

We had a funny waiter when we were at dinner.

Joey?

Oh, yeah.

Man.

Wait in San Diego?

Oh, yeah.

I like Joey.

First off, Joey's all right with me because Joey, Joey's got ambitions in this world.

He had confidence.

And you're going to learn all about him over the course of the dinner.

Joey's got career aspirations.

And you know what?

Joey's got several different careers.

This waiter thing, it's only temporary.

Joey's going to tell you what else he does.

Hey, do you want to look like Joey?

Joey personally trains and he can make you look just like him.

This is old stuff that Joey said during the dinner, which is like the back, the roped-off back room.

We had like a reserved room for dinner.

Yeah.

Well, you guys are doing a little bit of an action show there.

Joey likes action shows.

And Twisted Metal came out when he was six years old.

You're all a lot older than Joey, which he also pointed out as well.

Which I think half our cast is like, what the fuck?

Is he a third-person guy?

I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if not.

I wouldn't be surprised If he is, he should have been.

Wow.

Yeah.

Yeah.

He's a personal trainer,

likes action.

I assume wants to get into Hollywood or the industry in some sort of capacity.

That's what I'm reading between the lines here.

I think so.

Yeah.

I think the best place to start in Hollywood is about 300 miles away down south in San Diego.

Hopefully he'll work his way

to a better spot geographically.

He was a lot, but we had a great dinner.

And

awesome waiter.

He was.

To give him him credit.

All networking aside.

Yeah, yeah.

Actually, a very excellent waiter.

Yeah.

I shouldn't say he was a lot.

He was a lot, but he did a good job.

A lot doesn't necessarily mean it's not that much of a judge.

He's not.

I appreciate a guy who's making his pitch.

Like, yeah, sure.

It wasn't too obtrusive, but it was kind of funny because it's just very obvious.

Yes.

And I think that I, as he was a very confident guy.

And as a man who's not as confident, I think that I immediately am,

you know,

I don't like that.

Yeah, we must defeat this man who's trying to get ahead.

Yes, I get it.

Yeah.

You're not better than me.

Yeah, we talked about this.

Did not say any of that.

I love Joey, great guy.

But we had a blast in general.

The panel went great.

Joe gave me a shout out in the panel, which my mom loved.

So thank you, Joe.

Of course.

In our text thread with me and Susser, Mitch, this is the problem, like being Mark's like Mitch and I are, like, you can't not talk like a wrestler sometimes.

Absolutely.

Mitch was just like, Joe put me over at the panel.

Dude, wrestling vernacular is so, it fits so perfectly.

It describes so many situations.

Can I just quickly apologize to you for saying that?

You put me over big

new drawn town.

It's probably annoying when you see guys like Susser and Wager and I being like, I got put over by Joe.

Like, we don't, we like, we can't fucking lift someone over our heads like you.

It really doesn't bother me.

I don't care.

I felt pathetic saying it.

No, because I know that's how you feel saying it.

So it's kind of

there's other people who do not feel that way.

There were a couple, it was very funny that after the screening, when you weren't there, I did run into a couple Comic-Con guys who were like, You look just like us, so you'd have no idea you were like in a show.

I was like, I was like, All right, cool.

Thanks, man.

Thanks a lot.

You feel good?

And I was like, Yeah, and also, I don't think either, you know, I don't think you're.

I will say this happens on occasion, but there's nothing

more, there's no bigger backhanded compliment than

somebody walking up to you and going, you know, when I look at you, I just realize that even a slovenly, no-good, rotten, unathletic, horrible, very socially awkward,

nasty, funky-smelling, sour-shirt-halving piece of shit like me

is capable of doing cool things.

And then you're stuck there, like,

awesome.

Yeah.

Or, like, people, people say we could be twids.

Yeah, awesome.

This is great.

Yeah, no, we could be.

And honestly, they're probably right.

I'm not saying they're wrong.

And I'm glad to be an inspiration to these stinky guys.

This is the Doughboy specific nonplomment we get, which is that I get like a ghoul and an ogre watching up to the two of us and being like, I'm the Mitch and I'm the Weiger.

You are?

Okay.

I guess.

I want to ask about Toronto because you were up there for such a while.

And

we dug into your food experiences a little bit with Boston Pizza.

First, did you have any revisits with Boston Pizza?

Oh, no.

Not a single one.

Yeah,

we were good.

One and done.

One and done.

What pizza did you get up there, though?

I ended at the end of the, I actually got Prince Street.

It was excellent.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Oh, wow.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It was really, really good.

Did you north of Brooklyn at all or no?

No, but I heard that was the other spot.

It was great.

North of Brooklyn is great.

They have decently good pizza in Toronto, which I was kind of shocked by.

Yeah.

Wasn't too bad.

Yeah.

Pretty good pizza.

No, there was a place you were talking about.

Mitch, I want to say it was up in

north of the city where you were filming.

Oh, Hamilton.

The hammer.

There was some great.

Joe and I.

The pizza spot.

You went to the pizza spot that we got it and we had it.

Like the cast had it one day.

It was great.

It was fantastic.

And the hammer.

And there's like two or three famous pizza places in Hamilton, Ontario.

Wow.

Which we, we,

which is.

Well, we, we, we, we were were shooting in Hamilton.

We had kind of a considerable breakthrough doing an effects reset.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And you had called out, got our boy Danny on the line, he went out to his pizza place and he got like 20 pies for the casting crew.

Yes, thank you, Danny.

Yeah,

he's on Mitch's dime, though.

He's a man.

Wow.

And yeah, we had a great little pizza party.

It was awesome.

And the pizza was fantastic.

Several different flavors, varieties, and the crust was really, really good.

In a town, I got to say, it's odd that they have like three really good, right?

I mean, Hamilton, Ontario is a, it's the whole.

No, say what, say what it is.

It's a, it's a, it's a hard, it's a blue-collar town, and I'm a blue-collar man.

And there's a lot of hard.

And I fight for the blue-collar man.

Yeah, from Quincy Mass.

I'm a man of the people.

Look, me getting out of podcasting is no different from a man getting out of a steel mill at the end of the day.

Putting a dirty towel over my shoulder and going home.

Why is the towel dirty?

We sweat a lot in here.

It's mostly marinara.

But Hamilton is a, it's a, it's, it's an interesting town.

It's not, it's, it's like, uh, I think there's a lot of great things in Hamilton.

The first Tim Hortons is there.

There's a, uh, uh, uh, what's the CFL football team that's in Hamilton?

Of course.

Is the Hamilton like Wildcats or something?

You'd like it, Wildcats.

But, uh, but Hamilton Wildcats.

But, uh, you know, like, we shot at an abandoned school up there.

Right.

It was, it's like, there's like, it feels like some of it.

So the schools are abandoned up there, huh?

Crazy.

Anyways, can tell you more about Hamilton.

It feels like half of Hamilton could be a ghost town, and then half of it seems very nice.

It seems like there's a lot of.

Actually, I will say that.

That's actually a pretty

more accurate description.

Yes, but I mean, we're just saying interesting means

this is tough for you.

I know it is.

Bad.

No, it seems, it seems, it seems like, you know, half of the town seems like kind of, it seems a little abandoned.

It's had better times.

It's had better times.

I feel like it feels like a Detroit situation or something like that.

So I'm not trying to shit on the city.

I'm not.

I'm not.

It's a nice, half of it is nice.

God damn it.

I thought it was just a lovely town, like all top to bottom.

I mean, I don't have the best eyes.

The school is beautiful.

The school that we shot in is a pretty beautiful school.

That's why I'm glad kids aren't using it.

I mean, that's there.

It is, it is, it is,

it's

asbestos-filled.

Yeah, asbestos.

Yeah, that's right.

Yeah.

It's filled with asbestos.

And fuck, why is it feel weird coming out of my mouth?

Say it.

Asbestos?

Asbestos.

Asbestos.

Asbestos.

I mean, I think both are valid.

Asbestos.

I usually say asbestos.

That is remind me, though, like my

high school, Long Beach Polytech, Homo Scholars and Champions.

They were worried about drugs and guns or whatever the fuck.

So they ripped out all the lockers.

So my freshman year, they'd like, they were in the process of taking all the lockers out.

So you just had to carry your shit around all day.

But behind all of the.

Interesting.

Yeah.

You show up.

We show up post-Columbine and they rip out all the lockers.

Interesting.

They also banned trench coats.

It was weird.

Anyway,

they

like, but they ripped out all the lockers, and behind them were just all these signs that said warning as best as

long beach, long beach, long Beach.

You guys were not.

So

where did you go to?

Did you go to high school?

In Heinz, yeah, I was in Heinzon, yeah.

Oh, shit.

Wow.

So you guys.

A couple cities up there.

Yeah, yeah.

But did you guys maybe play each other in sports or anything?

No, it was weird.

Orange County usually stayed in Orange County.

Yeah, we were Long Beach Unified School District where they play in LA County.

Oh, man.

Well, I thought there could be a connection.

Well, I will say,

I did spend a good amount of time in Orange County just because it's real.

Yeah, yeah, it's right there.

Spent a good amount of time in Long Beach.

My ska band, uh, the that he played Alto Saxon, my ska punk band, my other brother Daryl, that was based in Orange County, Daryl, yeah, down in the city of Orange.

By the way, all ska has to spend time in Orange County in Southern California.

Like man, it's where Ska Council comes by.

He's also, he had he was classmates with Cameron Diaz and uh and Snoop Dogg.

Oh, Cameron Diaz.

I had classmates, fellow alumni.

Yeah, okay, yeah, both of them guys were before you, after you,

before me,

I hope so.

Wise old wager over here.

Easy, man.

When we were, we had a lot of fun in Toronto together.

Joe and I, we had some great ramen, I remember great ramen, great concerts, great concerts.

You, because you, I know it took you a little bit of time to warp up the city.

You did end up liking the city.

I did end up liking the city.

Joe, like, you know, obviously.

So, see, Hamilton, no offense.

You should take no offense to it.

It takes me a while to warm up to any place.

But, but I know we got into your impressions of the city a little bit when we're up there recording, but like looking back on it, like overall, had a great time, enjoyed the city, came to life.

I had a blast.

Yeah.

Like, I had friends up there.

you know i'm very familiar with toronto i've actually vacationed there with my wife wow uh in the middle of winter

we're just needed a weekend away uh but no it was it was a great time and like uh my friends are are uh pretty connected in the local kind of event scene there and stuff so we saw a ton of concerts i saw a ton of concerts uh the second week i was there i i met ross atkins the gm of the blue jays wow was uh we just kind of kicked it off at a lake party and next thing you know, he's like, Hey, you got to come see a game, and I'm walking across the street to the Blue Jays every day and watching baseball.

Yeah, you were living right near there, yeah.

I mean, honestly, the only

probably bad part was that my family wasn't out there with me for the majority of it, and that kind of sucks.

But other than that, like I kept myself occupied, had good friends there, and you know, Mike came along with me on a lot of the adventures, and yeah, it was a blast.

It was a lot of fun.

You and Jessica, your lovely wife, were nice enough to bring me out to dinner.

Uh, on that's where I first went to Lee Restaurant.

Uh, wow, I was the third wheel at their dinner just being fucking tanned.

Tana.

We like having a guest with us when we all eat, dude.

It was a blast.

The slaw, we've talked about the slaw was quite good.

Mitch is a great third wheel.

You've come out with me.

You've come out with me in LA before.

We've had a great time.

Yeah.

Come on.

It's just a wheelbarrow of joy every time you're out with us.

Well,

I had a black.

Look, we did, Joe and I.

Joe showed me some, this is the truth, some aquatic training when I was there.

Absolutely.

Oh, I heard about it.

He kicked the shit out of me right he's i don't know why i would ever because he was telling me all these aquatic exercises and what what's what's the what what's the the things that you we were using the the aqualogics paddles yeah aqualogic paddles and and you said to me you were like you're gonna think this is nothing but it's gonna kick the shit out of you the hardest exercise and the hardest exercise specifically is just was this with your wrists and like oh wow and i did for whatever reason i was like really and like even after he warned me and then you're like i got this it was

it was it was disgustingly overconfident.

Like, let me be no, like, he's bringing this up because it wasn't because first he gave me this.

Like, I went, hey, I'm gonna warn you, like, the last time we're gonna do is we're gonna do like a little forearm blowout, and it sucks, dude.

It's gonna be like the roughest thing we do.

And I remember Mitch McGimmer going,

I mean, look, this was the look.

Like, like, and if I know, for the non-viewer, uh, it was as if he had sucked a lemon

from the back of a vinegar factory's ass.

Like, it was just sour.

And I went, all right.

So then it's, and it's a, it's a, it's essentially 20 seconds each way.

And

yeah, he was screaming by like, wow, 21 seconds, maybe 18.

It was, look, you're a professional athlete.

I, but like, and I, I, I respect, but I was like, this can't be this hard.

And like, why?

Because like you pointed out, I risked, you know, risk should this guy's got the grip strength, if you know what I mean.

But you do this, and then you do this, and then you do, and I remember my arms are just noodles at at this point when i was going when i was going up and uh and then we would hit that we hit the sauna together we did we did an audition together i read for uh uh

i i who was this was a real it was a real romantic whirlwind week apparently

it was it was a gust van sandt uh killing gawker was the name of the movie i remember here i remember hearing about this so this is this is another thing that we've talked about in the podcast but part of being an actor in this day and age is you have to put yourself on video you can't always just go in person to audition and that means that you have to find a friend or a family member who's willing to read with you

to read the other lines.

You are auditioning.

I have to ask Samoa Joe to help me read the fucking

off-camera lines in your audition for the role of Bubba the Love Sponge.

I was auditioning for the role of Bubba the Love Sponge in the scene basically where we're talking about

Joe read as Hogan, as Hulk Hogan.

And

this is the issue right there, is that I was reading as Bubba the Love Sponge and I was bombing left and right.

And I remember even asking you, I was like, I was like, is this kind of, and you were like, yeah, but do it this way a little more.

You were trying to help me because you know a Bubba the Love Sponge.

Yeah.

It's a very distinct voice.

Yes.

And I was like, sounds like a frog, kind of like this.

I should have turned the camera around and had you just read for it.

But this Gus Fan Sam movie, and then, and Joe was reading the Hogan lines, and it was one of those situations where I was like, this is one of the things where the guy reading the other lines is doing a better job than I am who's on camera doing the other role.

And I I was like, they're going to hear this just like when I did the Scorpion King 3 audition with my mom and they like passed it around the office because my mom had a funny Boston accent.

That's right, the hell hotep.

You will not.

What role were you reading for in Scorpion King 3?

I was a direct-to-DVD movie, and

that was exactly what it was.

They were like, we're all watching the audition in the office.

It's so funny.

Your mom is so funny.

Would you ever be powerful enough to possess Osiris's eye.

And it was me just being like,

Yes, my master.

Like, I was doing like a shitty job of it.

It was supposed to be like a dopey guy that followed Scorpion King or some shit.

And then, but, like, it's like, I'm not going to get the role.

You're watching this because you think it's funny that I'm doing a bad job and my mom is doing a good job.

Or she wasn't even.

She was just happy.

That was just captivating.

She was just happy.

Next time, calling a favor from your old pal pal Wykes.

I'll give you nothing.

It's a complete blank slate, which would probably make you feel good.

I mean, that's that.

I will robot read from now on.

I mean, it was, it was, it was, it was good.

You back here, Bubba.

You son of a.

Why did you leak the tapes?

Yeah, but I did not get the Ben Affleck was slayed to be Hogan, and then they canceled the movie.

It never happened anyways, but and I did not get cast in the role.

I I never heard anything from it.

But I will say this: going back to video games.

Yes.

Your boys are gamers, right?

Oh, yeah.

Big time.

Are they into the Nintendo stuff?

Are they cross-platform?

They're cross-platform guys.

They're Roblox Valorant.

Okay, yeah.

Yeah, they got their games.

They got their addictions that are just.

I can't play their games.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Kids love Roblox, and that is just like, I have no, I'm completely out of my depth trying to make sense of it.

But your game, your video game that stars you has come out in the time that since we've last recorded.

Like a Dragon Pirate Yakuza in Hawaii had been announced, I think, shortly before you

guested on our show.

And like, it was the kind of thing where it was just like, I'm just seeing your likeness in the trailer and being like, holy shit, is that is that is Joe in the game?

And you were.

Now you've had the

game has been released, you've had a chance to play it.

Like, what is that?

Did you kick the shit out of yourself?

I did.

Which was, which is weird.

No, my sons, though, they couldn't wait to kick the shit out of me.

It was like

it was like an event.

It was like they literally only played the game to beat the shit out of me

and like show it to me.

That rules.

Look at you, dude.

But yeah, that's the only time they've ever been interested in any game that I've been

because of that reason.

But yeah, no, I mean, it was, it was, it was an awesome.

I mean, Yakuza games, period, are like, they're very, very cool.

I've, I've played a ton.

Um, and, uh, I don't know, man, like it was such a wild, wacky concept of a game.

Yeah.

And, uh, you know, RCGs, they're, they're real, um,

they're, they're real big on, like, when they go big into wacky, I mean, they go big.

And I think, like, you know, including me and part as part of the cast was kind of a left turn nobody really expected.

And, uh, you know, they revel in that kind of stuff.

So, I mean, it was cool.

I had a, once again, a wonderful time working on the game.

Uh, Sega was awesome to work with.

You know, they just, it's nice when you work with places that got all their stuff together and treat you nice and it works out well.

Like

super cool.

So, yeah, I had a great time.

And yeah, man, it's just, it's cool to see like

a digital antagonist that is you.

Like, it's just, it's not, a lot of people get to experience that.

So it's like, it was, it was wild.

For a video gamer, for a guy who's played video games all his life, has friends that are in the industry, has friends that are also lifetime gamers.

It's so nice to be flexing like I am on these fucking chumps right now, right?

Like, they're all walking up like, but I'm sweet tooth and I'm a pirate.

I mean, what more do you want?

Yeah, and I gotta say, and you're king shark, aren't you?

Yeah, yeah.

I mean, just you know, like, it's just it's it's real good for me right now.

In my circle, oh, they hate my guts.

I, I hope, I really hope that we get a third season of Twisted Metal because I have loved playing a dumb beta to your alpha.

And I would, to the end of time, I would play roles where you walk me around like a dog or whatever the fuck they make me do next.

Um, I, I, it, it's, it's a true honor.

Joe is a great, a great actor, but also, I mean, a great athlete.

I mean, the way you're talking, I feel we got to establish a safe word.

What is...

We did press together, and I just was hyping up Joe the entire time.

And he was like, all right, cut the shit actually at one point.

I just started lying about him.

I was just like, this man saves orphans every day.

Every day.

Takes about 20% of his paycheck and says, this goes to the orphans.

And then he goes out there in the street and gets them.

you you told you told the story last time you were on the show but I did love you talking about the the experience of you you're you're brought you're brought on board for the yakuza game uh the like a dragon franchise and they're explaining what the game is to you oh yeah you'd be like well no i just started recapping what happened in the previous game yeah you're like

oh oh it was it was nice like

because you can tell like like it the the director i was working with like

you can tell that he had told this story multiple times that was was probably one of the last guys to record.

Was this in Japan where this happened?

No, no, this was Sega.

This was here in the States.

In the States.

And, but, you know, just, you know, you know, when a voice director is kind of at the end of that production period, you know, he's, he's working.

So, I'm the last, probably one of the last guys to record for the project.

And he's like, all right, you know, he's kind of going through the, the, the, you know, the pitch on what the game is and what it's about and stuff like that.

And about three words in, I'm like, yeah, yeah, in the last game on Infinite Wealth.

You explain everything.

He's like, oh, so you know, I'm caught up on the story thus far.

Let's get going.

You're just like, oh, God, thank God.

Okay.

So it made the process a lot easier.

That rules.

Yeah.

You, you, so, have you been to Sega in Japan at all?

I know you've spent time.

I've been

actually, I have been to Sega in Japan, but not for this game.

It was many years ago.

Yeah, yeah.

You, you, you wrestled in Japan for

the beginning of my career for 0-1.

Yeah.

And I worked for a Nokie office for a little bit and did some stuff with them.

But yeah, I started my career in Japan.

So I have a fantastic appreciation for the country.

I love visiting anytime I can.

And, you know, like I said, having kind of a handle and understanding, kind of a better understanding of Japanese culture, it definitely plays into enjoying the Yakuza games because you realize

how much of a cultural touchstone that game is as far as kind of representing modern Japanese society, especially like the cities and locales and the stores and stuff.

So yeah, like for me, it's kind of like, you know, anytime I play those games, it reminds me of being back in Shinjuku or, you know, I've been in Komorocho and all these places.

You know what I mean?

It's like they,

that's the Japan I know.

Have we ever, have we ever, I don't know if we've talked about this on one of your former visits, but there, did we talk about the steakhouse in Japan that wrestlers all go to?

I know that.

Ribera.

Ribera.

I know that you and I have talked about it, but there is a steakhouse where they give you basically a jacket, correct?

Like a sweet, like satin.

kind of members only without the pauldrons type of jacket.

And yeah, Ribera's steakhouse.

It became like,

you know, a lot of early foreigners, when they went over in the 80s, you know, they would stop by Ribera.

And mainly was because you have a lot of bodybuilders.

They just want protein and rice.

Very, very basic.

And this place serves steak and rice at a very cheap price.

Yeah.

I will say this, the steak is not the greatest.

Yeah.

You told me that too.

Yeah.

Yeah.

The big joke amongst the Japanese guys is it's actually kangaroo.

That's what they always say.

But

that being said, I've ate there a few times.

I got me a couple jackets and stuff.

But now it's like, I've heard they're getting a little bit more stingy with the jackets because it was like every wrestler that wrestled at any small company would go over there and it would be like they were giving out 20 jackets a week.

They're just like, all right, let's lay out.

You got to keep it a tight circle.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Can't have Paul Walter Hauser walk down one of those things.

Oh, my.

Hey, he will get a Ribera jacket.

I can't wait till you see it.

Mitch walks in there.

Welcome back, Mr.

Walter Hauser.

I pull up my IMDb.

Sorry.

Oh, that's awful.

Get the fuck out of here.

Wise,

are you, are you?

Would you, this made me think, would you eat prepared kangaroo if it was served to you?

Yeah, I would.

I mean, if it was like,

my whole thing on, you know, I've tried to eat less meat in general, but like, if, if it's, if it's there, I will probably eat it.

What about you?

I, I mean, I feel weird about it.

I feel weird about it, but I probably would eat the kangaroo if it was served to me.

It's awesome.

Would you have a cutoff on this?

Dude, I'd hit a kangaroo in the head with a baseball bat.

You know how mean those things are?

Are they really?

Oh, they're dastardly.

I've never been to Australia.

I've never been to Japan.

Wags and I have never been.

Neither of us have been to Japan.

They'll beat that shit out of you.

Yeah, that's what I've heard.

Don't they have like claws and shit?

They'll rip your gut out, man.

Oh, fuck that.

I don't like that.

All right, yeah, I would eat some kangaroo tail, maybe.

Yeah.

Saw a video about an Australian guy just punching a kangaroo.

Oh, it's the best.

Yeah.

I didn't realize he had a judge against kangaroos.

He needed to go out there.

The no-talkies went out there and just dude left fuck,

Like, you're over here trying to empathize with these things.

Kangaroos don't know empathy.

They know one thing.

Killing Mitch, bro.

I would hop on that little pouch and I'd have a great time.

Be a little Joey in no time.

You also, you lived in Hawaii, I found out because I'm just recently back from Hawaii, Wikes.

I guess now.

Yeah.

I am back.

It was more we kind of spent extended amounts of time out there.

Because when I was growing up, my dad worked at Western Airlines out of LAX.

Oh, yeah.

So it was like, it was nothing for him to get rid of us for a couple of weeks during the summer and just literally put us on a flight with his pilot friend and be like, make sure they get to their auntie and they'd fly us over to Hawaii.

Oh, so your auntie, your auntie lived in

oh, damn.

All right, that rules.

I got to hit you up for more recommendations.

I'm back, but I got to hit you up for recommendations.

We're trying to make it mysterious when I'm going.

How long were you?

So you just were there at like extended period times?

Oh, yeah.

Okay, mostly summers, but I mean,

they were last.

Yeah, I'm excited to check it out.

Is there any food over there that you love?

Oh, I mean, everything's great over there.

I mean, if, if, I mean, obviously, you want to hit some garlic shrimp trucks, you want to get some fresh seafood.

Are you a Musubi guy?

Yeah, Musubi.

Yeah, everybody's Musubi guys over there.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I mean, yeah, that's like, you know, you'll see those everywhere, though.

Yeah.

And the 7-Elevens are more Japanese-est there than they are in the UK.

That's what I've heard.

I've heard that the, the, I'm sorry, I've heard that the 7-Elevens are like decent, they're great 7-Elevens.

And then the 7-Elevens in Japan are just amazing, incredible edifices of food and sustenance.

The Hawaiian food for me is just like,

obviously, that's a great, you know,

lots of great food of different cultures there, but I always think of the Hawaiian specific, like the lunch plate you'll get.

Yeah, the lunch.

Oh, yeah.

With max salad.

The quintessential Hawaiian meal is the plate lunch.

And the MAC salad has to have MAC salad.

And MAC salad is a very basic thing.

If you see celery in there, that's not a Hawaiian MAC salad.

If you see extra ingredients, stuff like that, that's not Hawaiian MAC salad.

And then you hear people, oh, well, you know, in our family, last year in your family, we know in the greater part of Hawaii, all them tricks and extra bullshit in there is not Hawaii.

It's very, very simple.

It's usually macaroni salad, a little, I think, apple cider vinegar, fuck ton of mayonnaise, and grated carrot, maybe a little grated sweet onion, stuff like that.

But I mean, yeah, it's very, it's a very simple thing, but it's iconic, it's what you want.

And then it comes with two scoops of rice and then a protein.

Usually that's you know, fried chicken, it'd be a chicken katsu, which is you know, very Japanese-inspired, or you'll get like a short rib plate or, you know, cowpeepee plate or something like that.

it's just you know a lot of different variations you can do I'm realizing that that's like probably the like like I guess Hawaiian food in particular is like the food I've eaten the least we've we've reviewed a couple of Hawaiian chains we've done L ⁇ L Hawaiian barbecue and I think we've done ono um yeah and solid yeah i think l actually is hawaii like hawaiian in origin yes it is yeah yeah you can it's it's on when i was like looking up places that was like it's like try an l and i think it's like decent enough but when you're in hawaii i think you don't want to get l basically yeah well there's going to be tons of places and honestly like a lot of the markets the small like little markets have the best stuff great poke out there you know what i mean like i'm excited all different kinds not just tuna but like like crab poke soft shell crab i mean tons of great stuff man you're gonna there's there's ruts hut out here which has good hawaiian food in la and then they're also like there's

i don't know if it's still the case there but gardena bowl used to have like really good hawaiian food in their um uh uh you know in their food court so your dad worked at the airport and he also worked we've talked about this before he worked at disneyland so he would go he'd get up at five, he'd go to Western Airlines, he'd work as a mechanic there till three, clock out at LAX, drive down to

Anaheim?

Drive to Anaheim, and then he'd do five shows a night at the Tejian Terrace.

Holy shit.

Get home about like 11, like kind of kiss us all, go to bed, and then wake up, go back to the airport the next morning.

And me and Mitch are just like, I can't believe we did do two podcasts.

I mean, that's what I was just thinking of.

You fucking little baby bitch.

Wait, me?

You're putting it on me.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's on you.

You hear what his dad does every day?

Yeah.

And he knew Waltz.

You said he knew Waltz back in the day and everything.

Yeah, yeah.

Walt hired him.

That's wild.

And because, you know, he's

conceptualizing the show and

everything and the area.

My dad was there for all that with the original with the original choreographer of the show who had passed some years later.

But yeah, he was there.

And then my brother worked there for years.

I mean, a lot of my family worked there.

I think my brother now still does the show in Disneyland Hotel, I believe.

So

we've always kind of had a a Disney connection.

And you were, I think you also mentioned you played Hoop in the Matterhorn.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

The Madhorn does have a half court, and I've shot plenty of baskets there.

And my dad's favorite thing was to take me up to the Tinkerbell Tower at the top of the Madhorn and threaten to throw me down.

Like, you put the dude, oh, you know, let's go look.

Let's put the harness on you.

No, you know,

classic dad thing.

Pretending to kill your son.

Yeah, I've

pretended to throw your son off the Matterhorn.

You know, that old father-son activity.

My dad threatened when we were at the Grand Canyon.

He's threatened to throw me off, stuff like that.

You know this experience.

I got to say,

I did all this

during press, but

this season, every actor, and I said, I've said it every time you've been on, but

the way that Joe is just moving with his body.

I'm doing this again.

This is the worst.

And

it is, it's like Mark's brothers shit.

He's like, you're just watching his performance and he uses his entire body and it's so fun to watch him do it.

And I mean, he's also acting on set.

he's delivering these lines and i i said this to you that you know will will arnett does the does he he dubs the the lines in later but joe is giving this full great performance on set too and i can tell you no one's going to scare you more than samoa joe he's screaming at you and threatening you and throwing you up against a fucking ice cream truck it's fucking there was a couple that the the day where there's a scene where i i try to stop you and i pull you back and i was really struggling with it and i think it was because i was like standing up to joe you know what i mean who was like it was was a menacing force it was fucking it was getting in my head it was like making me nervous uh in all fairness also you will get scared of emma so yeah

well also we dub over emma's voice with will our name

i will echo mitch's compliments on your first because it's just like it's like that's to me is like uh you

sweet tooth has such a specific walk that you've kind of created like just a sort of way of movement it's just and it and it's like it's funny but it's also menacing at the same time.

Well, there's, there's so many actors that you just see like an actor who's seeing it's like,

like, not moving their body at all.

And then you have to be so aware of that.

And it is just a good thing to think about, anyways, as an actor is like, what are you doing?

What movements are you doing?

Like, you're going to be real, but like, what are you doing in each scene?

And for you specifically, you're like, I have to emote through, you know, visually.

Oh, for sure.

Well, I mean, well, A, like, you know, for a character like Sweet Tooth, like, obviously, once you take the eyes and the mouth away from an actor,

it's a lot missing.

As far as like visual cues and what most audience members pick up on.

So you want to kind of really over-accentuate your emotions, a lot of moving your waist around and kind of just being more

adding a flourish to every word you kind of throw out there and stuff.

And

I think if you do that, it kind of helps the character be more than just the stoic.

golem-faced you know like

you know i mean there there there is an aspect of terror to that too but i just don't think that's this character you know what i mean i think he's a little bit more flamboyant trying to be a showman and be out there in front of people.

It's very P.T.

Barnum, you know?

Did you ever, as a wrestler, was there ever a phase when you worked masked?

Briefly when he started, and that was just literally because they needed heels for the Lucha show.

So you'd put on a hood and be like, oh,

I'm the friggin' Black Panther from Mars.

You know, like, it was like,

or, you know, they would literally make some silly name of it.

I think it was Enigma de Oro, which I think is like the golden Enigma.

Do you think Wags and I would have us be masked wrestlers?

Yeah, but for different reasons.

When you said Stoneface Gollum, I thought you were talking about my acting just in general, anyways.

But

there is a scene where I see someone in the season, and I like walked over to them.

And I remember at Video Village, they were just laughing because I just was just walking over with my arms just by my side and not emoting.

Very robust.

Which is good for my character.

And now we will walk over here and talk to my new friends

all i'm saying is

i appreciate it so joe joe sonoa emmy run 2020 2026 that's all i that's all i'm trying to say best physical depiction of a

best best supporting actor i don't know what the fuck the categories are buddies you should you should you should you should get one um

go on but go on well you you go first i was gonna say

we're you know all the episodes are out now we we don't need to get too deep into spoiler country here.

But I am curious, like, because we talked previously about you being in the ice cream truck, and that's something both of you, of you spent a lot of time in.

Was there anything particularly

stressful or chaotic about

the stunt work in the ice cream truck this season?

I mean,

just about every shot we did.

Well, no, I'll tell you why.

And it's because this like precarious thing we got going is A, you know, we're in the truck the truck is not in any way really set up for actual safety it just no has a general what because it's like on one wall is filled as a bunch of uh old rusted sharp weapons uh plastered to it and then the the weapon the racks where the weapons are hanging on are also like little pointy spikes little old hooks little old hooks that are all been rusted and then patina down to you know match the the the the aesthetic and then on the other side of the truck is just like a bunch of odd corners just sticking out and random bolts and stuff like this.

So, like, we'll be in the back of the truck, and then it'll start rocking, and like, you know, we'll take a turn real deep.

And, you know, you're standing up in the back.

So it's like Harold has the seat.

And Harold has the seat next to me.

So there's been several times where I've looked back and like Mitch is flying into a wall of like buzz saw blade, rusty buzzsaw blades and stuff.

And he's like, ah, like holding on, just trying to like avoid this from the side.

Jesus.

Which literally happened to you as well.

Like, like,

I did fall out of the back of the truck afterwards, but Joe did fall out of the back.

It was stopped.

It was stopped.

Our crew is our crew is great.

And then also, but there was one specific thing where Joe had to be thrown up against that wall inside the truck, and he did it.

And you had scrapes on your back, and you were bleeding.

And it was like, we should probably get something for all those hooks so that when you go into them, you don't have to need a tetanus shot or whatever.

But it is like,

look,

it is, it's a complicated show to film.

There's a lot of stunts and a lot of shit that goes into it.

And it is like a physical show.

And then halfway through the season, we're always fucked up.

We're like, like, we always have

fucking ice on our fucking legs.

Well, I fractured my ankle

by the fourth episode.

That fourth episode, the fourth episode is that which got me to when we were running to the vehicle.

Yeah.

When we were running to the vehicle.

Yeah, we were doing that.

And then there was just a couple other things where I had like jump out of the back of the truck.

And then like, you know, the, the boot that I have is a little bit, it's got a small lift in the back, but it's like, it's also just like kind of unbalanced the way that they created it So it's like when I jump out the back It was like the ankle buckled Yeah, got them fine and then we went through the day and then by the end of the day like I was barely walking I was then the next day I found out I'd fractured my ankle That's that and you were like it's all right.

It's fine because you're you mean you're used to pain basically Yeah, and then well like I mean I could still walk and you know be mobile So I was just like yeah, we'll tape it.

We'll get through it.

But you have a walking boot?

No, I ended up what I would do is I'd wear a walking boot like in between takes and then And then whenever we'd start, I'd just kick it off and then go do the take and then come back.

He's a tough man.

I don't know how the fuck he did it.

Oh, drugs, dude.

Tons of them.

Oh, my God.

I found this opium den downtown.

Oh, that's right.

You told me about it.

Anyways.

No.

It was also funny that it wasn't painkillers.

It was you were like on ecstasy one day.

I experimented.

You know, I wanted to find out what was really going to take away the pain.

I give you credit because Joe Joe was in like a leather harness, and sometimes I would help him get out of it.

I was

your belt, boy.

It's not necessary to tell people.

Thanks, dude.

Your mask, dude.

And then there is an episode.

I'll get a spoiler alert because now it's out.

But I was just in my underwear for a full episode.

And then to see how like you were just have pants the entire show.

And it was like fucking 35 degrees in Toronto in fucking July or whatever at night.

It's the last shot of the day.

The sun's going down.

Everybody's doing the old, trying to rush to get it in before we lose the light.

Yeah.

And like in this chaos, they're like, you know, scrambling around.

It takes taking longer.

It takes taking longer.

It takes taking longer.

He's freezing.

You're now shivering out there.

And I'm saying these bad boys are.

Oh, boy.

Yeah, I'm telling you, the diamond cutting brothers.

The diamond cutting brothers were in the house.

Yeah.

And I just, I remember I just looked over at him and he's covered in blood and tidy whiteys and I'm sitting there freezing myself off with the stupid clown mask on.

And we're just like, wow, all this college really worked out.

It really felt like we were back at that point.

But Joe is fan, again, once again, fantastic.

And he should.

And Mike also, rest assured, is stellar in this whole season.

He'll, yeah, say, look, he's going to try to say he's not, but he is.

So, and we're going to leave it at that because, you know, I don't need to praise this guy.

Trust me, when the cameras are off.

I want to bring up that I said, you should win at me.

And then I was going to say the story that we were talking about beforehand, but we were on set and I was talking about our our co-star Thomas Hayden Church from last season.

He's not back this season, but I loved him.

A great guy.

He's a great guy.

A great actor.

A great season one villain.

He's in Sideways.

He's great.

And we were talking about Sideways and he got nominated for an Oscar in Sideways.

And I was being like, man, Thomas Hayden Church should have won a fucking Oscar for Sideways.

And I was like, who won?

And I looked it up and I was like, Morgan Freeman for Million Dollar Baby.

I was like, people don't care about Million Dollar Baby anymore.

By the way, when that statement was uttered by him, everybody else sitting in the castro turned around, What are you talking about?

I mean,

I think Morgan Freeman is a great actor.

And he like Shawshank Redemption, he should win for Million Dollar Baby.

I was just like, it's out of the zeitgeist.

Sideways is like a movie that you remember more to me than Million Dollar.

I don't even think it's his.

Maybe you bougie film types.

I think he's so good.

And so is Paul Giamatti.

He's not even nominated.

Yeah.

And when I talked to Thomas A.

Church about doing Doughboys for season one, and he was going to do it, he said he was going to do it.

And I talked to him for an hour and a half.

And then he told, he said, tell your mom the Sandman says happy anniversary, which was very sweet.

He was like, Paul should have been not.

He wasn't even talking about himself.

He's like, Paul should have been nominated for that movie, which he should have been.

Paul Giamatti is great in that movie.

But I was like, he's great in it.

Morgan Freeman has other success.

It's fine.

And I was like, it's not even Clinton Eastwood's best.

And then I said to Anthony Mackey, I was like, have you ever worked with Clint Eastwood?

And then Anthony Mackey looked at you, responded,

yeah, in Million Dollar Baby.

and i i i believe was it you were you just laughing somewhere yeah and then i knew he was like

it's a mackie's credit mackie also was just oh

he busted up bigger than anybody but it was just like i mean have you ever worked with clint eastwood

yeah in million dollar baby wags i fucked that up pretty bad but whatever and look uh he mackie like we're boys he doesn't care about that.

I'll be back for season three.

Sure.

I'm just thinking about how much our fucking fans are going to gif your underwear scenes.

Oh, fuck.

Oh, it's coming, dude.

Oh, hot, hot, hot Mitch Summer is on the way, dog.

Look,

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Wags, I gotta say this.

Yes.

We've been talking ice cream all month.

That's right.

And we got the king clown here himself.

We might as well talk about the king clown of ice cream.

Yes, I have.

McDonald's.

I'm curious, Joe, before we get into this discussion proper, first off.

Hold on a second.

Deus, don't wince at my little sayings over there.

I was more just thinking, I don't know if I'd say McDonald's is the king clown of ice cream.

You meant Ronald McDonald as kind of the king.

Yeah, whatever you were saying.

I think you meant like the ice cream.

I got what you were saying.

They're from a different generation where fast food restaurants didn't have like mascots in front of them.

They actually have.

They're just loving it.

How much more do we have to pay you guys to at least pretend to like our stuff?

I'm smiling back in there.

Hey, remember when I made that Rainman reference and they both looked at me like I forehead way over their head.

We're going air out of our faces over here.

We realized that they maybe were not born when Rain Man came in.

So

McDonald's, you mentioned

that the mascots may not have had a presence in a lot of young people's lives.

They've actually kept Ronald McDonald behind closed doors since 2016.

He hasn't been making public appearances since the clown scare.

In 2016, that's the year another clown took over the Oval Office-wise.

Bitch, don't get political.

Okay.

Sorry.

Warned you about this.

Yeah.

Not that kind of show.

Yeah, we shouldn't get political.

And you know what?

Shame on you, South Park.

Joe, where do you stand on McDonald's in general?

McDonald's, I believe, is

probably,

you know, as far as the fast food goes, I believe it's, it's a benchmark in fast food.

I think it is, I wouldn't say it's the lowest bar.

Would you maybe call it the king clown of fast food?

You desperately want me to.

Uh,

I would say that it is the benchmark of serviceability.

Like, like when I go to McDonald's, I go with no pretense.

I know I'm going there.

It's always out of convenience, never out of want, rarely these days.

But I also know when I get there, you're going to get something that you know you're going to get.

It's going to be that way.

It's usually the simpler the order, usually the more perfect it is.

And I like the steak.

Ice cream is one of those simple items that McDonald's, I feel, does relatively well.

Where does it rank among your, like, like, like the kind of big four of burger chains?

Because you got McDonald's, you got, you know, Wendy's, you got Carl's Jr.

Hardy's, you got Burger King.

I'll just say this.

Yeah.

Not to glaze McDonald's here, but Waggs and I really like to put over McDonald's.

Big Founder fans, I get it.

Yeah,

we're fans of the Founder.

Ray Croc stole the business.

He did a great job stealing the business.

Those rubes.

Big Tommy Brothers.

It does feel very wrestling-coded.

The whole thing.

Well, you know, you would appreciate it, you know, two fine, hard-working Irishmen being duped by some lascivious American businessman.

We're easily duped.

What can I say?

I love McDonald's.

I'm a Big Mac fan.

If I want a Big Mac, and also I say this, if McDonald's is hitting, as they say,

as the young folks say, if it's hitting,

I think it's the best fast food there is.

I don't know if he'll agree with me.

I love McDonald's.

I also think it has improved its consistency across locations.

I've been having a lot of issues with Del Taco lately.

I've had some really bad Del Taco experiences.

Can I add to that?

Please.

As a

former California resident and a lover of Del Taco, especially late at night.

So it's some of the best decisions you can make.

I had Del Taco for the first time in

maybe 15 years.

Oh, my God.

Like the other night.

And I agree.

Del Taco has taken a bit of a dive.

It's a bummer.

It is.

Yeah.

They've, you know, they've had like.

I was just thinking your anniversary of this weekend.

He went to Del Taco.

I was like, I am pissed off.

So you want to go back to the hotel, you weird?

So, so I appreciate that McDonald's seems to have been improving that.

And like another thing, like, just to since we're on Del Taco, Del Taco is a place where there will always be one item that's incorrect for my order.

And I don't feel like that happens at McDonald's.

I feel like they're better about that.

But I am curious, and I want to get everyone's takes on this.

You know, you got kind of the Mount Rushmore of

national burger chains.

McDonald's, I mentioned, Burger King, Carls Jr., Hardy's,

and Wendy's.

Is McDonald's your number one?

Hardy's is, I guess, a part of it.

But like, just being in the Northeast, I never would think that.

In terms of number of locations,

what would be the four in the Northeast?

I guess it's Wendy's, Burger King, and McDonald's.

Yeah, I don't know if there really is a fourth.

I don't know if there's a fourth Mountain Rushmore one in the Northeast.

So I think that you're right.

I would say five guys.

Five guys.

Probably has now become the North Northeast that's consistent across the Northeast area.

In the Northeast, but now it's all over, I I feel like.

Five guys?

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

You're right.

I think that five guys is probably the fourth in the northeast specifically, but I think nationwide, I think you're right that it is Carl's Jr.

Nationwide.

Is Carl's Jr.

Yeah, yeah.

What is your I used to love Carl's Jr.

so much.

I still do like it.

Carl's Jr.

out of those ones would probably be my number one.

Wow.

I like it.

It's a good, it's, it's, I feel like they're, I feel like their quality has declined a little bit in the last 10 years or so, but I used to, I liked it more than In-N-Out at one point, why, because I told you that.

But In-N-Out has grown on me, and I do love In-N-N.

McDonald's is,

I love Wendy's, but McDonald's is probably, we've seen the slide in Wendy's, even though Wendy's was kind of back then when we had it for whatever, a month or whatever we did there.

But McDonald's is

probably my favorite.

Burger King is sneaking up there for me.

I mean, we're saying BK is back, but like, I just, I find myself defaulting to Burger King a lot more than I used to.

Doesn't it always just seem like it it is just location?

I mean, maybe it's the point of this podcast.

It's location dependent.

It's so locational dependent, for sure.

Should we end it?

Yeah.

I mean, yeah, I've been saying this.

All of them are five forks, just depending on where you go.

That's it.

We're done.

Well, that's why I'm here.

That's why I'm here.

I'm going to start rebalancing this whole fork distribution problem you guys have.

Oh, I love this.

I think I did it the first time I was here.

Let me get these back down to where the levels they should be.

Oh, I like this a lot.

Well, I got to say this.

Pretty good outing by McDonald's today when I had, I drove back from San Diego from Comic-Con with my mom and sister today.

I ripped up here, dropped them off, and hit McDonald's.

And I had a two-snack mac, two-snack wrap meal because I also hadn't eaten.

It was like 2 p.m.

Wait, so you had two McDonald's trips today.

That's right, Wages.

Wow.

I did McDonald's twice today, and then I'm going to Oster Riomoza with Joe after this.

So, so two

are very opposite ends of this.

No artery left untouched.

I did the two snack wrap meal.

I haven't had snack wraps in a while, but that is not, this is not included in the review here.

We're reviewing ice cream.

Yes.

And we're very serious about this show.

Oh, yes.

And I'm going to say this.

I got a vanilla cone-wise because I saw your vanilla cone.

Yeah.

And

this was today when you went and got the snack wrap.

And I had to eat it first before I ate everything else.

And I was on Cloud9.

That vanilla cone was so fucking good.

And also, I was just like, this is like whatever.

I know this is not the most pure ingredients or whatever, like, but this McDonald's cone is just hits that perfect nostalgia vanilla cone flavor that I've had my entire life.

And it was fucking, it was my bite of the night.

Why?

Because it was my favorite thing I've had all day.

Let me, let me table set for McDonald's ice cream real quick.

Founded in 1940 by the aforementioned brothers Dick and Mac McDonald.

At the time, ice cream scoops.

Ice cream scoops were on the menu.

Ice cream was removed in 1948 when they revamped their menu to the more simplified version that made it into an institution that was

taken from them by Ray Kroc.

I guess I'm talking trash.

In 1978, McDonald's introduces soft serve as Cones and Sundays.

And in 1997, they debut the McFlurry.

As for Ronald McDonald, the tie-in for Sweet Tooth.

Wait, what year was the...

1997 was the McFlurry.

Oh, wow.

Ronald McDonald was first portrayed by Willard Scott, the TV weatherman in 1963.

His original name, Ronald the Hamburger Happy Clown.

Yeah, Mitch, you mentioned the

soft serve cone.

For me, I have a specific childhood memory of there was one of those weird,

you know, sometimes there'll be like a McDonald's, like a little stand that isn't like a full McDonald's.

There was one of those in Bolivar Park in Lakewood, California.

And we'd go to the public pool and then you could go to that McDonald's stand.

They'd have like a limited menu.

They didn't have fries, I don't think, but they had like hamburgers and they had vanilla soft serve cones.

And I remember getting them from there and that being like a childhood memory of mine.

You like the soft serve or the hard serve?

In general, I'm more into scoop.

I'm serving soft mostly.

Those hard serve machines.

Vegetable lady.

In general, I'm more into like an ice cream scoop than a soft serve, but I like a good soft serve.

You know, it depends on context.

Where does, Joe, where does ice cream rank in your dessert hierarchy?

Oh, very high.

Very high.

I would say one or two.

Wow.

Yeah, there's very few things I like better than just a nice scoop of ice.

Wow.

All right.

I like it.

What else is up there?

Pies.

I'm a good pie pie.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

What's your favorite pie?

Ooh, a pecan, probably.

Great answer.

Yeah.

Pecan's a great, a great, great answer.

No, no, I like a good, I like a good fruit pie.

Well, I was gonna say after that, it's definitely all fruit pies.

Okay, yeah.

You see, there's a lot of people who are like, warm fruit, it doesn't do it for me, which is always just so confusing to me.

I don't understand that.

I got a banana cream pie last night.

It was fucking great.

I was so happy.

I was a restaurant in my neighborhood.

It's really good.

Well, what's the neighborhood?

Look,

when we talk about going back in time and trying McDonald, like, I would love to try the first McDonald's before

Ray Kroc traded them for a map to a pot of gold or whatever the fuck he did to swindle these two idiots.

Probably gave them whiskey,

right?

Those fucking Irish struts.

But, But there is something about that vanilla soft serve that is the artificial bullshit of it all that I just,

I love it, Wise.

And you had one as well.

Yeah, I got a vanilla cone.

I guess that the question we should ask about McDonald's desserts is, is ice cream the move or do you go with the hot with like the hot apple pie?

Because I do like the apple pie, but I'm always like, I don't know, it's never as good as I remember.

Yeah, I'll tell you why, Wise, because they don't deep-fry the the apple pies.

Okay, right around, so I think the 90s or something, they switched to the baked apple pie, which is a far inferior version of the apple pie.

The apple pie of our youth, the deep-fried apple pie, was a thing of magic, a thing of mystery, a texture wonder, was great in a Sunday.

Yep.

Yep.

You dip it in the Sunday.

As they say, go woke, go broke.

And that's what happened here.

I blame the dirty hippies for this.

I'm sorry, I do.

Want an apple pie?

We like the vegetable oil, and then all of a sudden the pies aren't fried anymore.

That's all I know.

RFK, help us, please.

Yeah.

Please fry your apple pies and beef tallow once more.

Actually, that does sound good.

Yeah, don't knock it down fry it.

Sounds good as hell.

It's just making me think of Del Taco again, which is they have these funnel cake fries right now, which are an LTL.

But the problem is, A, they're not very good.

B, it's polluting the fry oil.

So now if you get regular fries, they have like a sweetness to it.

That's what I, that, so I got a comp, like I said, I had Del Taco first time in a long time, and the whole thing smelled like powdered sugar.

Yeah.

The whole bag.

Like it was, I thought they had accidentally slipped me some of these fries,

funnel cake fries.

And I thought homie was being awesome.

Like, oh, hey, what's up, dude?

Like, rolling me up.

And I know no funnel cake fries.

It was my regular fries.

Jesus.

Smelt and tasted of funnel cake fries.

Yeah.

They got to change out that oil.

I got to say, you had the same, every time I was near you this Comic-Con weekend, you said smells like powdered sugar as well.

Maybe it just was me.

The after effects hanging around me for too long.

I did get a vanilla cone.

I also got a vanilla shake.

A vanilla is a flavor.

And I also got an MM's McFlurry.

Mitch, what else did you get?

I got my, so I got the snack wrap meal.

I got the vanilla cone.

I ate that vanilla cone, and then I got Oreo McFlurry because I knew you were doing an Eminem McFlurry.

So I got an Oreo McFlurry and

I ate just a little bit of that Oreo McFlurry.

It was good.

I think that the soft, I think the ice cream from McDonald's goes well with the Oreos.

They know what they're doing.

It's a good mix up.

But that vanilla cone was really not,

that was my, like I said, the bite of the night.

It was fantastic.

After, when I came to Headgum, I got a few different things.

I got a chocolate shake.

I got a

hot fudge sundae, which I added at the last second.

And I got a...

An insulin shot?

I got an insulin shot.

I was, I was, I, I, I just put my Zetbound into my ice cream.

Uh, and then I got a, uh, I, I got a s'mores McFlurry.

I didn't eat all of this stuff.

I, I was, I was tasting.

Um, and the s'mores, Hershey S'mores McFlurry is new.

I got one of those on a separate visit myself

last week.

Joe.

Also, wise, you know what I ordered, but they didn't have it?

Was a Harlem shake.

I'm not doing it.

I'm not doing it.

You, you're bailing on it because

He's afraid to have a shoot.

Joe, he's afraid to do it.

It's pathetic.

Pathetic.

Amelia made a Harlem shake joke, and I promised Amelia I would do it.

I only made the joke so that you didn't have to do it.

Well, I did it because I did it.

And Wages can't do it.

He's afraid.

Low point in the podcast.

Of the 10 years?

Oh, my God.

I just saw the shark swim by, and you guys are riding tricycles.

That's what I'm saying.

He's too afraid to do a Harlem shaking for you.

That's pathetic.

You didn't have to do it.

Fine.

That was like a 10% Harlem shake.

What do you want me to do?

God damn it.

Wave my hands like you did?

All right, there we go.

You're still giving half effort.

Anyways, I got to say this.

Joe will never come back on the podcast.

One, two,

two, my chocolate shake was my least favorite thing of the night.

And maybe it's just that Hershey's syrup that they mix because they have a good vanilla, like we've established.

But like

the vanilla soft serve is great.

So there's no reason that the chocolate shouldn't be good, but I think it is just kind of Hershey's syrup.

Well, I think it's because it's mixed with vanilla.

You know, most chocolate ice cream I have is just chocolate.

That's a great point.

Yeah.

So they just throw a little syrup on the vanilla.

Basically, you just have vanilla ice cream with chocolate syrup in it.

And that just doesn't do it.

It is, yeah, it's kind of a black and white.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Well, no, at In-N-Out, they do have chocolate ice cream and vanilla ice cream, and they do mix it together.

So that's the way McDonald's, I never thought about the fact that their base is vanilla.

So when you get chocolate, you're getting vanilla and chocolate.

Great, great point, Emma.

It was not, it was not my, that was the only downside.

I thought, Joe, you ordered, you inspired me to order the Hershey's S'mores

McFlurry, which was my main goal when I woke up this morning.

Because I also got the s'mores McFlurry, but it's a limited time, you know, item.

Obviously, you know, everybody can have an Eminem McFlurry.

Is that your number one usually, the M ⁇ M McFlurry?

No, my usual is the Hotfoot Sunday.

In fact, that is only the second McFlurry I've ever had in my life.

Wow.

Wow.

Yeah.

Well, I just, if I was going to get ice cream, I would just get ice cream.

I'd just said, you know.

You don't need the tossing.

Yeah, yeah.

Well, like you said, your favorite bite was probably the bite of that ice cream cone just by itself.

That's true.

And I think sometimes we have a tendency, especially desserts, we have like an an over-tendency to like over-complicate them with flavors.

And I think like sometimes one sweet thing is probably good enough.

So, this guy's a vanilla ice cream over here.

I love vanilla ice cream.

Yeah, but it was one of the most complex flavors, by the way.

It's true.

It's an exotic bean in the world.

Yeah.

It's not like people think that vanilla is not an exotic flavor.

It's actually one of the most.

It's true.

It's an exotic bean.

Yeah.

Fucking weave.

Yeah.

I

I think that's well argued.

I also, like, my, I love the Hot Fudge Sunday as a kid.

What I liked about it, and I can't do it anymore anymore because I developed an adult allergy, was the crushed nuts on it.

Yeah, I asked for mine with crushed nuts, and you didn't give me that, which was awesome.

This was an issue.

Amelia hit us with it.

Yeah.

There is no nuts option.

Oh, really?

Yeah.

Oh, maybe

we're not offering it anymore because so what you're saying is we're not living in America anymore.

Well, that's great.

But that was the thing, like, just like that, that punched it up texturally so much.

Oh, and the saltiness.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That punched it up.

I'm going to read what Amelia texted me.

Oh, please.

There's no nut option for Joe.

I don't know where he got the sick idea.

I don't know where he got the sick idea in his head.

He could add nuts.

In fact, I think I could wrestle this guy and pin him pretty.

Good lord.

That last one I may be, the last part I may be adding.

Hey, thanks for warning me earlier in that text.

You're right.

It's always the quiet ones that are buying, right?

She did say, I don't know where you got this sick idea.

She was joking, of course.

She was joking.

But

there's no more nut option.

You can't nuts.

You can add like crushed Oreos and M ⁇ Ms.

Good.

Like, listen,

nuts might kill you.

Yeah.

Just get some more sugar on there.

You'll be fine.

Nuts, I remember being the default back in.

Oh, yeah.

You would have to ask them to be ready.

I've never had them for a while.

They stopped offering them entirely.

Which probably tells you last time I actually got a hot Sunday there.

This thread said it started.

It said they just started this in October, but it's six years old.

So it has been at least a lot of time.

What a terrible, that's a terrible take.

This guy has a no-nut life now.

He's, he's, he's true.

Now you guys both got something in common, huh?

That's why this podcast works.

Common interests.

No nuts to be had.

He, he grew up, he had a later in life nut allergy.

Wages did.

It's true, true, yeah.

It's specifically peanuts.

And I thought I was having issues with tree nuts, but then I found out that was like a largely psychosomatic.

But the peanuts are a real thing.

And

yeah, I didn't know it was a thing that could happen in middle-aged, but people develop new allergies.

Sometimes

people who are pregnant have a, develop an allergy from that.

It's all sorts of things can cause it.

Hopefully, it hasn't crossed over to the comic strip.

Peanuts.

Oh, boy.

Yeah, you have other questions you can fully lock.

I was talking about our comic.

I was like, what?

Yeah, because we have our own comics, extra confusing right now.

It's like, is there a peanut there?

But no, I can still enjoy the adventures of Linus and Pigpen and friends.

There was a peanut, there was a peanut restaurant down there at Comic-Con.

Did you see that?

There it was near.

No.

And I went to a great steakhouse with my mom and sister.

It was called Lou and Mickey's.

It's in the Gaslamp district, and it was fucking fantastic.

I don't know.

If you ever back down there, Lou and Mickey's.

I had a blast.

Great, great restaurant.

Anyways, Wags, it hasn't crossed over to the Comic Strip.

But, Joe, did you finish your thoughts on the s'mores?

Uh, the

s'mores, uh, whatever the fuck.

Oh, that old thing?

Yeah, sir.

Yeah, I liked it.

I thought, I thought it was pretty good because obviously, uh, you know, s'mores is hard to pull off.

I thought the Lucky Charms Marshmallows I would dislike actually kind of worked, add a little texture to the ice cream.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So I did dig that, and it was, it was a pretty good little McFlurry.

It definitely exceeded my expectations when I got it.

I because I was just sort of, I went to the drive-thru and I was just getting McDonald's for dinner, and I saw they had this.

I knew we were going to talk about ice cream of the show.

So I was like, all right, I'll try this Hershey Smores McFlurry in this context.

First off, we should talk about the McFlurry cardboard cups, which are a semi-recent thing.

They used to come in plastic.

I don't mind the cardboard cuts, cardboard cups, rather.

I like that.

I like them pretty well.

I like them too.

I think that they're,

it seems like it's probably better for the earth, I'm just gonna say, but the spoon is gone.

They no longer have the McFlurry spoon, I've noticed.

Yes,

they don't have a distinct spoon anymore without

this.

Let's talk about this McFlurry spoon, the straw spoon, right?

The straw spoon.

Okay, yeah.

If you wanted to bust a blood vessel in your head, you'd try to use that straw.

I mean, it was a health hazard.

No, not functional as a straw.

Yeah, I think a lot of people probably try to drink, like, drink the McFlurry.

Yeah, and here's what happens is as you're eating with the straw, maybe it gets a little bit melty, and then this has happened to me.

The one other time that I ate a McFlurry, I used that straw.

And then I remember I was taking my time, and then as I lifted up to put the straw in my mouth, the back of the melted ice cream slipped down the straw right on my pants.

Oh, man, that's a bummer.

That is a fucking bummer.

I never knew that was supposed to be a straw spoon.

I thought it just had a thick handle because they used it to stir the McFlurry.

I think it was double.

Yeah, I believe it was actually like the attachment they used.

And they were just like, oh, just leave it in there.

Yeah, which now I think for whatever reason, maybe it's just that sort of thing of they have one thing that mixes it together now or something.

I don't know what happened.

It was a fun gimmick.

I understand what they were, they're like, hey, it stirs it up for you in the machine, and we're going to give it to you.

But to the end user, it looks like a straw because it has a hole in the head, and we're accustomed to having straws with shakes.

Yeah, so

I mean, like, I do kind of miss it just from a design standpoint, but I don't mind having a regular ass spoon.

It's fine.

You're gonna eat this some bitch with a with spoon anyway.

I saw I saw George Lucas at Comic-Con.

Did you really?

I

did.

I went over yourself into an aging app.

I did play George Lucas on At Midnight thanks to Wigs and Jordan Morris.

You were fantastic as George Lucas.

And

it was a fun thing where I was like, oh, this looks like, it does look like me in the future.

He's looking slim, as was Guillermo Del Toro, who was also on the panel.

Wait, did you, so did you see this panel?

Yeah, George.

That's awesome.

I went in.

So I went over to the comics beat and

I pushed our Doughboys comic book wise.

I was promoting it.

And then

I got out by 11, and then I was just waiting for Griff because he had, I forgot my badge, and Griff had an extra badge.

And Griff, Griff, Griff, when Griff came down, he gave me his extra badge, and we went over there.

And I was like, let's try to get in.

He was like, there's no way we'll get in.

But

we walked in.

We were like a half hour.

We were like halfway through the whole thing.

And then we sat down and we watched George promote the new Lucas Museum.

The narrative art.

Can't wait to see.

Yeah, yeah.

It seems awesome.

We're going to have a train stop.

I'm definitely going to check it out.

Yeah, yeah.

I saw the Digman, Trey Parker, Digman.

Check out Digman.

I saw the Digman and Trey Parker Matt Stone and what's his name from Beavers and Bud, Mike Judge panel.

That's awesome.

And Andy Sandberg, yeah.

Just going back to you playing George Lucas on At Midnight, John DiMaggio, the most best known as the voice of Bender, was on the show that night.

And he afterwards took you aside and was so complimentary to you.

He said, How funny you are.

John DiMaggio, have you ever want to come on Go Boys to have Bender, I mean, the clap.

How funny is he?

And he's telling you how funny you are.

It was

very, thank you for bringing that up.

It was a very nice moment.

Anyways, that makes me feel good.

It made me feel nice.

It is, you know, I should be nicer to myself.

Yes.

You know what?

I'm pretty damn good, actually.

Hey, there you go, huh?

All right, calm down.

Sorry, sorry.

Sorry, Emma.

I like the s'mores McFlurry quite a bit.

I thought every, like, again, I'm going in there.

I'm just like, okay, well, this is a thing to try.

I don't have much in the way of expectations for it.

I certainly don't have a lot of affection for hershey's because i feel like i don't know i just you know i mean hershey's chocolate sometimes it's kind of uh they're just

very favorite one of the godfathers of candy you know like we can pay our respects to them but i don't want a hershey's bar ever in my life who gives a but but I i exactly what you're saying about the texture connected with me.

And it's just like, oh, yeah, it's, you're getting a little crunch from the graham crackers.

The marshmallows worked in there nicely.

A good amount of chocolate.

It absolutely evoked a s'more in McFlurry form.

Yeah, I was like, I was like, this is like maybe an eight out of 10.

I was really impressed.

I thought it was pretty good, too.

Here's the thing.

I don't know how much I care about s'mores.

I don't know if I care that much about s'mores.

Is that crazy?

Yeah.

Yeah.

It usually means you have a really shitty childhood.

I mean, I can kind of tell by like your love of s'mores because, you know, a lot of great family memories are made around s'mores, a lot of loving, you know, type of things.

So I loved my, I loved my parents.

They were great, but I well, I've met them.

They are great.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Well, I met your mom.

And that's episode 10.

Jesus.

Your mom and your sister are lovely.

Yes.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Who's coming?

I bet they like s'mores.

They do, they, they do like s'mores.

I just, the smokiness of s'mores, I don't know.

Sure, the smokiness.

No, no, give me a good excuse.

Okay, hold on, hold on, hold on.

I will get this out here.

I do like, I like campfire s'mores.

Okay.

I think that when I get like a s'mores flavor, that's more that that is more the trouble I have with it is that like it tries to evoke a smokiness or something.

Right.

You know what I'm saying?

And that that is what I, that's what I hit on more is like, I don't like, I don't like more Mescali tones to your

flurry.

I actually I don't like mezcali except for the one time I went to Mexico City and I went to a place called Pujol.

Have you ever been to Pujol?

No.

It's great.

Jesus, all these names, where are they coming from?

Pujol is like, it is like one of the best restaurants.

It is like considered one of the best restaurants in the world.

And I went down there for a Netflix movie.

movie-wise at LP directed.

And I was, I had a little cat, like a little smoke cameo.

I had a small role in that movie.

And I, and I went to Pujol, and I had Mezcal like from Mexico, and I loved it.

Yeah.

But I, I, I, like, when your mezcal is in a cocktail, it's always a little too smoky for me.

So I don't know if I love like a smoky taste.

I don't, I don't think I, I, sure, not a smoke guy.

Yeah, what's that?

Not a smoke guy.

I'm not, I'm not, I'm not a smoke guy.

I don't, I don't want the smoke.

I don't need the sm's.

I never need the smoke.

Okay, okay.

And so, and so I think with a lot of artificial s'mores, like, like, or things trying to be s'mores, you get like a little fake smokiness in there.

Is that, do you think that's accurate?

Um, I don't know if there is in this, I didn't get it in this.

Yeah, I got zero smoke because the marshmallow wasn't cooked at all.

Yeah, the marshmallow's not cooked, and then the graham cracker was just a normal graham cracker, and they just had bits of chocolate.

So, I'm wondering where the hell,

right?

Smoke comes in because I can, I think it's in the other room, I can look in there,

but nobody set it on fire.

Leave me be.

No, no, I'm not.

This is this can't stand.

You're talking about a flavor profile that was nowhere near the McFlurry.

I thought that it was trying to.

You're acting as if somebody came and took your McFlurry, and then a cocktail man, right?

One with a tie and a vest, came over and put a little smoke dome over there, had some wood chips in the back, and steamed it up for you.

This is what he does to me on set wives.

I get scared.

I just want to know, where's the smoke?

There was no smoke.

Okay, all right, yes.

It just, I thought it evoked some sort of s'more, fake s'more flavor.

Was it telling you a story by the campfire?

Okay, I was like, I don't know how to get you this nervous.

I'll feel bad.

So it's all right.

It was totally snug.

I don't think about it.

Dude, fuck that, man.

After working with me for a second season, I have been prescribed Lexapro and Kafranopin.

That is true.

I liked it.

But I also would like the MM's McFlurry over it or the Oreo McFlurry.

Well, so is your go-to the MMs or the Oreo?

My go-to is the MM's one.

Okay.

We freaky fright at each other because my go-to is the Oreo.

And I love ice cream.

I'll get the MMs just

for contrast.

You don't want to know my reasoning for this is is that there's so much like cookies and cream ice cream.

And there's that for like for when it comes to the McFlurry,

like the M ⁇ M being in the ice cream to me feels like more of a different thing.

Exotic.

It is.

It feels more exotic.

It does, like a vanilla bean.

It's mixed in there.

It's like you're having, it's like more of a treat to me.

Yeah, I get like my whole issue with the M ⁇ Ms, McFlurry, is you're getting individual M ⁇ Ms.

I believe they're the mini M ⁇ Ms, which are used in baking.

You should, you should call it Wags.

What?

You should give Wags a hard time.

Oh, yeah, well, he hasn't said anything stupid yet, so

kind of hard, right?

Because you need idiocy before you can get mad at it.

You're just getting mad and stuff, you're just a dick.

But then, if somebody says something stupid, you get mad, you're just right, right?

All right, all right.

Go ahead, Wags.

Continue.

I'll say some dumb shit to you.

I feel like it's a surface area problem with those mini MMs.

There's so much candy coding.

And whereas with the what's fun about the Oreo McFlurry is that those

bad boys are chopped up.

You know what I mean?

Like you're getting little pieces of

Oreo.

And so I just, as far as distributing the candy, distributing the candy, the mixed-in confection, I just feel like the Oreo is more like the Dairy Queen Blizzard, which is what the McFlurry is evoking.

There's a good chance I've changed my stance on this, but

I am now more of an M ⁇ M McFlurry.

Yeah, but I like the Oreo more.

But the M mcflurry ⁇ M

was fun it was good you know it got the job done i i definitely would like my vanilla shake more i i like i i just as far as mixins go and and i might have felt the opposite about the oreo mcflurry over the vanilla shake what uh was was the vanilla cone your your top dog or no

i might go vanilla shake wow i just i i just thought that it had a good texture to it and i liked a little bit of whipped cream on top you know um the the vanilla cone was good though and i i i just like i'm not crazy about cake cones You know what I mean?

Like, they're little artificial tones.

More sugar cone, guy?

Yeah, more sugar cone or waffle.

Waffles.

Waffles by number one, yeah.

Yeah.

I think it just works so well with that, with that McDonald's ice cream, that little shitty cake cone on top of it.

I think it works well.

Well, that's the part that, again, just like to me is like a bite of a memory when I'm biting into that little bit of cone corner after I've taken down

the ice cream proper.

Yeah.

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I think, I mean, are we at our, we've discussed all of it, right?

Is there anything else to say about this bullshit?

No, Mitch.

The only thing left to do is to give our fork scores.

So, Joe, you've done the podcast before.

You know the drill here during Twisted Monthal.

We are rating restaurants out of on ice cream out of zero to five.

What did we land on well we've done different we've we've no we've done different things for each we could do ice cream trucks did we ever do that or did we do it already we might have done it but we could do it again did we do ice cream trucks already uh sweet tooth masks

uh let's give it harolds that's great wow

harold's the joe's sweet tooth's best friend in the show i love it and even though stew is there too it's harold is

we all know who the emotional support animal is.

You know what I mean?

That's that's very true.

You mean me, right?

So, Joe, your thoughts, your which is, by the way, is great for the joke of the show that Harold rides shotgun.

Yes, it's great.

But then, like Joe was saying, like, I'm like in the back, like, fucking

just like the most scared surfer you've ever seen, dude,

next to a dangling morning star.

Yeah, wow, scared stir, scared surfer sounds like a wagger screenplay ready to be written.

What am I doing out here?

This is a bad idea.

Scared surfer made a billion dollars.

Joe, your thoughts, your score from zero to five Heralds for McDonald's ice cream.

McDonald's ice cream has always been one of their strongest products that they've had.

Wow.

I believe that.

What else?

Is it cheeseburger and fries?

Cheeseburger, hamburger, fries.

Yep.

I think the simplest items on McDonald's is what they do best.

I think ice cream is one of those things.

I think, even though their soft serve has been accused of all kinds of artificiality and everything, it is a smooth, nice, enjoyable product that is consistently good every time I've had it.

I've had a great hot fudge Sunday here in Los Angeles.

I've had one in Tokyo.

I've had one in Germany.

And you know what?

When they get something right and they do it consistently right, you got to give them their credit.

So four, five Heralds.

Five Heralds.

Wow.

That sounds like me back in UCB 2008.

Oh boy.

I was waiting for a Harold joke.

I'm so glad it happened.

You never had one of those five Harold night wages?

Oh, boy.

That's a bad night.

Yeah, that certainly is a bad.

It's a bad bike.

Five improv shows in one night.

That's a bad night.

You know, by the fifth one, there's no funny things being said.

And also, by the first one, there's probably no funny things being said.

Kind of like a Doughboys episode.

Five Harolds.

Joe,

look,

Joe is Sweet Tooth, the killer clown, one of the most notorious clowns of all time.

Ronald McDonald, also one of the most notorious clowns.

Well, not notorious, just one of the most well-known.

Oh, you don't know what he does in those houses.

Maybe why they discontinued Ronald.

We're talking about the big boy wives.

We've never reviewed McDonald's ever before.

That is the truth.

We've never reviewed McDonald's.

Yeah, I mean, we've reviewed certain things

from McDonald's.

We've never reviewed the restaurant proper.

McDonald's proper.

So, once again, this really comprehensive fast food podcast.

Cool.

We're saving it for our final episode.

Yeah.

Well, so next.

Which one is it going to be?

Both of us?

I mean, you know, a dealer's choice.

We'll save it.

We'll see what happens.

Yeah, we'll see what happens.

I want to see the negotiations on this pack.

You'll be first, but I'll be second, I promise.

Two bullets in my head.

What did you do?

I'm putting a few rounds in here.

Nothing's happening.

It's just stopping.

Look, I love McDonald's.

Are you not a Big Mac guy?

Not a huge.

I love a Big Mac.

I love a quarter pounder.

I'd prefer the quarter pounder.

Quarter pound.

Yeah, quarter pounder, more simple.

I love McDonald's wigs.

And it's funny because I was never a big, I'm not a crazy dessert guy.

I love, I love chocolate and I love soda.

So like that is, those are my sugar things.

But like, uh, besides that, I don't go crazy with sweets a lot of the times.

I'm always, I'm always, I'm always more savory.

You do, but you do love liquid sugars because you love like a sweet cocktail.

Yeah, I do, yeah.

So, those, I guess, yes, if that's classified as sweets, I do love that sort of sweet.

But,

and so I don't have like that strong connection to McDonald's, but

God,

God help me, it's a five Harold restaurant.

It's five Harold's.

Five Harolds remind you anything?

Sounds like me at UCB in 2007.

You use the

same joke?

The same not a joke?

Yeah.

Most Del Close Marathon or.

Well, I'm glad all this improv stuff is working out for you, guys.

I did a lot of improv on set that got cut this year,

mind you.

I do love McDonald's.

I agree that a lot of times what they do best is the, you know, the simple items on their menu, uh, what Joe was saying, you know, fries, obviously, but like

their Coke is great, their sprite is great.

I'm a double cheeseburger man, if we're talking about their simple, uh, you know, like straightforward items, that's a very uh straight-ahead execution.

I do like their ice cream quite a bit, and very often I will find myself tossing on to a McDonald's meal an ice cream treat.

In fact,

I will invariably go for that over like the apple pie, which we talked about earlier.

Not surprising, little piggy.

But the thing is, all right,

I rarely go to McDonald's just for the ice cream.

You know what I mean?

Like that's the main thing.

Like that, that's the thing that maybe takes it out of the Platinum Plate Club from a dessert standpoint because it's not a full destination for me.

Just

you want to go and get that vanilla cone?

You're full of shit.

If I'm going to go out and get some ice cream,

I'd go to Handel's or I'd go to like a Baskin-Robbins.

But to you, it's not that same thing if you're like craving that vanilla.

Like, to me, I'm like.

Sometimes I find myself craving a McFlurry, but as far as a shake goes, I feel like, you know, Carls Jr.

does a better shake.

Jack in the Box does a good shake.

In and Out Burger is a little bit more of an ordeal to wait in line there, but they do a better shake.

But I do think McDonald's ice cream is very good, and I do think

it deserves some acclaim, some commendation from the Doughboys podcast.

So I am going to land at four Heralds for McDonald's ice cream.

Welcome to the Golden Play Club.

Piece of shit.

The Golden Arches Club.

Four Heralds.

Four Heralds.

It's a good score.

It's a good score.

Perfectly respectable.

Yeah.

Like, you know, any ice cream parent would be proud of their child getting four Heralds.

I mean, it's not a bad score, but it could have been, I think it's Platinum Play Club.

Yeah.

No, but it's not, though.

It's four Harold.

So

yeah.

I'm just sad, I guess.

Should be.

For Harold, this is more like UCB like 2010.

All right, moving on.

We'll snip most of this episode up.

We'll just actually just, maybe this will just be an episode where we cut me and you out of the episode.

It's just Joe.

This is our guest, Joe.

And thanks for being here.

The first Twisted Month episode with Joe was hacked to bits because we cut all talk of Twisted Metal out of it.

Remember?

We caught like 25, 30 minutes out of it.

Remember, because you were being a good union member, you're like, oh, no, they'll get nothing from us.

And I was like, yeah, brother.

That was one of the, a, a well-intentioned rule that had the, that was kind of weirdly implemented, I think we can say candidly.

And unfortunately, time for Twisted Metal season one because like we, you know, we didn't have clear guidelines on what we could or couldn't do, and so we aired on the side of caution, took out a lot, a lot out of that episode, unfortunately.

One of my biggest regrets in life is that I didn't cross the picket line.

Yes, it was, it was, it was, we, at least we got to talk to Joe.

That was a blast.

So that, and, and we got to do it again, Joe.

And you know what?

It's, it's great for us.

It's bad for you, but thank you for being.

No, I, I was, it was absolute pleasure to be here.

Well, we got, we got a little bit more before we let you free that's right hey i got a food stuff we're gonna decide if you should put into your mouth it's snack or whack and hey we got these pringles mingles i didn't even know these existed well pringles has been up to something now haven't they that's right that's right joe in twisted monthal everything is twisted including now pringles which Amelia is opening up.

Amelia is pre-open.

Thank you.

We have a Pringles mingles.

So these are light, airy, crispy, puff snacks.

And then they're kind of twisted.

They're kind of not really.

They look twisted on the bag.

Well, so here's the idea.

Here's apparently the twisted element, Mitch.

It is two flavors on one bow tie.

Wow.

So this one is sharp white cheddar and ranch.

Those are the two different flavors.

This is dill pickle in ranch I possess.

And I have cheddar and sour cream.

So wait, so one of the flavors is sour cream?

Yeah, that's right.

Cheddar and sour cream.

All right.

So two

ranch, ranch almost, I mean, very close to having ranch in all three of them.

Yes, yes, yes.

But let's try these.

Here we go.

Pringles mingles.

Whoa.

These are not what I expected.

This is Pringles trying to move into the Pirates Booty territory.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's what I was expecting.

Honestly, I thought it was going to bite into a potato.

But it's not that.

It is a corn snack.

Yeah.

That is a puff.

That is a weird version of the puff.

Look, I'll say this.

He's over.

I don't love Pirates Booty.

I think these have more flavor they're obviously probably way worse than pirates booty

are you a pirate's booty guy no because i mean let's just be honest dude if you're eating pirates booty you're just half-ass snacking i mean yeah grow up eat some chips keep going i 100 agree

100 agree sharp sharp white cheddar and ranch for this one the dill pickle and ranch

I do like the flavor combo here.

I just don't like it on that.

Yeah, that's what I agree.

It's the texture of the crunch

is a lot of pudding.

Is the texture anything like a Pringle?

I'm going to assume.

Okay.

No, I'm going to pass these over to you.

I'm going to date.

Well, I got to try those.

I'm going to date myself, but

there was an old health restaurant chain around here in California called Skinny Haven, and they had these terrible puffed snacks.

And this is what exactly this reminds me of.

These are walk these over.

I'll say this: I am going back for more of them.

Yeah, but it's only out of mystery for me.

It's not really.

Yeah.

I'm trying to find the appeal.

Yeah.

I do think that I like them more than Pirates Booty.

I got to say that.

Like you're saying, half-ass stacking.

Yeah.

But I mean, like saying you like it better than Pirates Booty is just like saying I like this thing better than Pickles.

Yeah.

Damning with faint praise.

Deal Pickle and Ranch combo, I think, is maybe my favorite of the bunch.

Emma, you are a big Pringles fan.

We previously discussed Pringles with you at length on the podcast over on the Patreon.

Yeah, what is your reaction to these?

I feel like I've lost my fandom for Pringles over the past few years.

Over the past few times I've gotten them, it just tastes like flavored cardboard.

So I'm just like, there's like not even potato left in them.

These taste a little more potatoy, but I'm not sure how I feel.

The ranch flavor feels like I enjoy it while it's in my mouth, and then I'm going to have a nasty flavor in my mouth for the next like three and a half hours because of it.

But other than that, but I kind of do like the texture of the puff.

I'm going to walk the other two flavors over too, y'all.

I think the cheddar and sour cream is

genuinely off-putting.

I don't know what it is.

It just tastes off to me.

See if we can identify it a little bit more.

Yeah, I just, I'm just, I don't know.

I don't know, Wags.

These things should be in an Amazon box keeping my glassware safe.

Those guys all ate the patient.

Wagger ate packing peanuts on an episode.

Was it Dutton too?

I didn't eat those.

Jemmy, I gave Jemi one.

Why do you eat it onto the floor?

That's great.

The dog did just flick it onto the floor.

That's pretty awesome.

Yeah, Jemmy doesn't want any part of it.

I get it, Jemmy.

Boy.

That was a bad idea.

What a bummer.

What was the market?

I mean, what was that marketing meeting like, and who went yes?

That guy should have his tongue repossessed.

The best thing about it is the name Pringles Mingles is pretty good.

And I also can sort of see

like, like, like, oh, we're mingling.

Mingles is pretty good.

What the fuck is that?

The brand is Pringles.

You got mingles?

That's fun.

All right, sure.

Pringles mingles,

especially because you're mingling two flavors on one snack.

Like, I do understand this conceptually.

It's just that the base they're using, this puffed corn base, is just it's a total misfire.

You know what it reminds me of?

Baby food.

Like the baby puffed food.

Yeah, the baby puffs.

I love those.

You don't have to even chew them.

You can just gum them to death and they'll just dissolve in your mouth.

That's the texture of these.

Yeah, I would rather have one of those.

Yeah.

It's weird because sour cream and cheddar is like one of my favorite ruffles flavors, but it does not seem to work here.

Well, that's how I translate.

I think it's because what they're, I think it's because of the mingle concept.

I think because one of them is supposed to be like just a straight sour cream flavor.

And if you just have that, it tastes very artificial.

I think the pickle and ranch, I would have guessed, would be my least favorite of all of these three, and it might be my favorite.

That's the one that works the best for sure.

I think these are wax all around, unfortunately.

That's that's the that's the one I like the best.

That's that may be the

softest whack, but

uh, I don't know.

Yeah, sure.

Uh, I don't know.

Would you defend any of these?

Are they all wax?

I think that they're all wax.

No, oh, absolutely.

What a bummer.

Sorry, Bringle.

It's like me after being stuck in a hotel room with my mom and sister for a couple days.

All whack.

we're promoting the show I'm on, for God's sake.

You're doing great, yeah.

That was snack or whack, just like a restaurant via feedback.

Let's open to the feedback.

Today's email is from Demian from Oakland.

They write: Happy 10 years to the Dough Crew.

In the spirit of what I assume is another awesome twisted month, oh, you are correct.

This question is inspired by Sweet Tooth's iconic ice cream truck.

If you could pick any other food to make the neighborhood rounds in a truck, what would you pick?

Love this question.

And what music would you have it play?

I realize that food trucks exist, but for some reason, ice cream trucks are the only ones that move.

It's a good observation.

Anyway, congrats, Mitch, on season two.

I hope you celebrate with some bar pizza.

I'm from the South Shore, and Linwoods is my choice spot.

You know, Linwoods?

I love Linwoods.

Why?

Is we going to take you on a bar pizza tour next time you're in Massachusetts?

I don't know if we'll ever do a live show again, but still, you should come and try it at least.

I'd love to try it out.

I have an answer for this already.

Fresh hot slices of pizza in a truck.

If you hear coming down the street,

What do you think of that?

That's fun.

Some royalty-free, like sort of Italian music.

Why not?

Hey, what's the matter?

I would love it.

I would say, stay out of my neighborhood.

I would shake my fist at them, but I, but I, but I would get a hot, fresh slice of cheese pizza from a truck.

Yeah, I mean, that would be, I mean, that would be a real novelty if that thing was slow crawling through your neighborhood.

snaking through the streets and you could just run out and get yourself a fresh slice or two.

Yeah.

Why not?

I mean, I don't don't know.

And also, the song is fun on top of it.

But

is it just, are we thinking dessert, more a dessert thing?

It doesn't matter.

I think it'd be whatever.

I think that's, it seems like it's a, it's an open-ended question.

We had a, there's a, there's a, there's an ice cream truck in our neighborhood now that's, that's around basically every day now that it's summer.

And they, they play like, I can't remember what, but you know, you know, one of those classic songs, like, Shall we?

Pop goes a weasel.

Pop goes a weasel or something like that.

But after every round of Pop Goes the Weasel, a person on the microphone in the truck says, hello.

So it's just like,

hello.

It's really unnerving.

Yeah, that person's a psychopath.

Yeah,

that is awesome.

Is it a recorded hello?

Is it part of the track?

I think it might be, but I can't quite tell.

If it isn't, it's definitely a psychopath.

Hello.

A guy running from the wheel every time he has to say hello.

Why?

Because what about a hot dog truck that sings Summer in the City?

Oh, the Let Me Be Frank song.

Let Me Be Frank, which is a thing we do on the show here.

That's true, yeah.

Joe, please never listen to the podcast.

Yeah, this is helping me.

But

I'm done with pizza carts, so

I don't know where your thought is.

Yeah, I mean, like, look, you want the pizza pizza is a great answer because, like with ice cream, you can get a single serving and be satisfied.

It's also the sort of thing, like on impulse, you might just go out and get one.

I'm wondering if you might want to do something because it's hard to beat ice cream in terms of

as far as sweets go.

I think you have to stay in savory country.

I'm wondering if you want to do like a like a like a soft pretzel.

You know what I mean?

Like

a nice hot pretzel.

Or maybe I guess if if you were gonna do sweet, you could do churros, something like that.

Um, but like that, a hot churro truck is fun.

What song, what song are you playing?

Well, so here's the thing: it's like, do you want to be super on the nose?

If you do, it's kind of like, I guess the pretzel one could be like Chubby Checker's The Twist, you know, it's like, like, okay, that's kind of fun, or do you want to just do something that's got like sort of a wide appeal?

And I almost just feel like,

do you just want to lean into

outright jingoism and just play like Lee Greenwood's God Bless the USA?

People definitely have an opinion on that blaring through a loudspeaker going through your neighborhood.

Definitely get some attention.

But also, I think you could do just like a Taylor Swift song and, like, no one's going to sue you over one truck.

Yeah, I guess you wouldn't get sued over one truck.

Yeah, you could play some Taylor Swift, but I thought it would have some sort of thing, something to do with the theme.

Well, that's what the Chubby Checkers of Twist for the Pretzels want.

All right, okay, that works.

Yeah.

What about a Papusa truck?

Oh, a Papusa truck is great.

That's fine.

If I heard a Papusa truck come around, I'd like to hop out of my office and grab a papoosa.

That's great.

I don't know what song you'd do, though.

I think I know the song I would play from my truck.

Yeah.

All right, you ready?

Yeah.

Here, hold on, you're going to get a sendie.

Oh, yeah, there's a guy.

I'll end this.

It's not the new disc.

It's the Building 7 9-11 song.

And I'll give a shout out to Martin Notes.

Martin Oaks.

See, you played that at the end of so many episodes for a while.

I had that bookmark.

I think it would,

like you were saying, a very true American song that you can play.

I think people people would like to hear that coming down their block.

Yeah, you guys are going too tame, man.

These suggestions,

they're beneath you.

I'm just saying that.

Wow.

You guys are more magnanimous in this.

You know what I'm talking about?

I'm talking about the Daiquiri Dodge.

Come rolling into town.

Every cup comes with a shoulder strap because you're going to be wearing it.

I love this.

Okay.

It's all the flavors you want.

Drunk as you can possibly get.

And all we play is 80s funk.

Gap band, you drop the bomb on me.

Lakeside, all day long, loud as possible.

a little more stay in the time, and the daiquiri dodge.

Oh, come on, that's a party waiting to happen.

This see, already you are just a better showman than us because he wants to play the national anthem, and I want to play the

9-11 Building 7 song.

You're going to get people to come out to your truck as opposed to.

No, that's a party.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's way better.

And wait, what are they serving?

They're serving daiquiris.

Yeah.

Usually in large guitars, like I said, every cup comes with a shoulder strap and a large enough straw to make that all happen.

You know what I mean?

Like Like, this, these are.

So, you were talking, this is an adult.

This is an adult.

Yeah, I wasn't even thinking alcohol.

You can do that.

Yeah, you can do that.

You could have virgin versions for the kids, too.

Yeah, you know, make them happy.

Yeah, they love, they're going to love the gap band.

Everybody's happy here, man.

You know what I'm saying?

And also, we filmed in New Orleans where they literally have daiquiri drive-thrus, which is insane.

Yes, they do.

So, it's like, yeah, if you if you had a daiquiri truck in LA, I bet you would you could make thousands and thousands of

balls in your court, boys.

Daddy just sprinkled a little knowledge on you.

Who wants to be a millionaire?

I rode with you, and now I'll ride with you, I guess.

Mitch and I opening our meatball truck for this building seven song.

Nobody wanted a spicy to meatball.

Offensive in like seven different ways.

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Samoa Joe, Twisted Middle Season 2 on TikTok.

People have been watching it, but they should watch the finale out today.

They should.

For sure.

The finale is out.

The last three episodes are out today, Wags.

And I'm going to say this.

I'm going to let Joe talk about the show for a second.

But I just want to say Joe is so good in the show.

He's a star.

We all know that.

So we were a fan of you, Joe, before I was even on the show.

I remember when I went to New Orleans and I didn't know who was on the show yet, and I walked in and I sent you in our wrestling text thread, which is a reason that you shouldn't even talk to me anymore, but

the wrestling group, the group text, which is Mike Carlson, who you've met now multiple times, Evan Susser, Nick, and myself.

I was in there to get a wardrobe fitting and I had just flown down there and I took a picture of you on the wall for casting for Sweet Tooth and I sent it to Wages and the gang and we were all like, holy shit, we went crazy.

Steve.

that was violating an NDA.

Oh, 100 bucks.

That was violating an NDA.

But, you know, when it's your friends, the NDA doesn't matter that much.

But also,

season two, when I got up there the first day, we went to a Green Day concert.

We had a blast all the season.

It's so fun to work with you and the rest of the cast.

Shout out to Lars for the tickets.

Thank you, Lars.

Hell yeah, Lars.

Thank you for the tickets.

It was a fucking blast.

It was Green Day.

What was the trip?

Green Day, Large Frederickson, The Bastion, Smashing Pumpkins.

Shout out to Billy, too.

That's right.

Yeah, yeah, yep.

It was a great day.

And we had a blast all year.

We did some aquatics together.

And I hope to work with you more, but you're going to be a, you already are a huge star, but you're going to be an even bigger star.

But please talk about the show and your character this season.

What?

What did I do wrong?

Did I diglaze him too much?

What did I do?

Oh, you were just smiling so much.

Okay, all right.

I thought you were making fun of me.

I was enjoying what you were saying.

All right, good.

So I'm going to talk now, right?

Cool.

Love to tell you about my experience.

Mitch?

No, no, no, listen, it was a blast.

You know, you, you and I both know we had, we had a great time on set.

The cast really came together, and oddly enough, we still speak, which is not something that happens a lot in a lot of shows.

Yeah, we are, we're all legit are friendly.

It was, yeah, it was, everyone got along great.

And it made filming this show such a great experience.

Yeah, and listen, if you loved us last season, obviously you're watching the season now, more action, more craziness, and you must watch the finale, especially for our boy Mitch here, because you know what?

I feel he really shines towards the end of all this.

You know, that's very kind of you to see.

The real Mitch comes out, the best version of Mitch, the Mitch we all want him to be, even though some days he really, really disappoints us.

But on these days,

no disappointment.

Okay,

it's all good.

Wow, that warms my heart.

Yeah.

I'm going to just give a quick shout out, Wags.

There's, there's some people that are in the show that didn't come on the, we're going to have them on the podcast at some point.

Some we try to make it work who are in la and others who not who are not in la but andre kim nice um uh catherine east

um

uh michael michael shaw michael james shaw uh who is fantastic and he is axle um swings the hammer swings taj our my boy taj yeah

we're gonna try to work on somebody we're gonna we're gonna try to get taj in because we haven't we haven't finished all the the doubles yet we're gonna try to get taj in in some way we're trying to work taj in but we'll get him in on at some point uh tyler Johnston, Claire McConnell.

Am I missing anybody?

I don't think that I am, but

oh, Dylan, Dylan Rampulla, who played Brenjamin too.

But there's just so many cast and crew, and the stunt team was so awesome.

And all the directors were fantastic.

And it was truly a dream to work on the show.

I just got to give a shout out.

It's the last, it's the last bit.

I love it.

Last bit, huh?

The crew is fantastic.

And the cast is fantastic.

And the stunt team is fantastic.

Everyone involved is fantastic.

And Mackie, of course, Anthony Mackey, Anthony Kerrigan, two guys that

didn't get to come on the pod either.

But, of course, superstars.

But that's all.

That's all I had to say.

The show is great, and you two are great together.

And

I was hoping that you would fucking throw him through a table at some point.

You keep priming me for that every time I come here, and he's so pleasant and nice.

Why would I ever do that?

He's tricking you.

Gotcha.

Yeah.

That'll do it for this episode of Doughboys.

Until next time, for the Smoon Ran Mike Mitchell.

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