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Speaker 3 In the 235-year history of the U.S. Congress, only six members have been expelled from the House of Representatives.
It speaks to the extremely high bar for corruption in a famously corrupt body.

Speaker 3 But among the most infamous and brazen of this sinister six is James Traffikant, a Democrat who represented an Ohio district that included his hometown of Youngstown.

Speaker 3 Known for his grandstanding and cono-veresque buffant, revealed to be a toupee in a prison mugshot, Traffikant's 2001 arrest for for bribery and racketeering surprised few.

Speaker 3 It was consistent both with his character and his city, a city described by the wager author David Grant as Crimetown USA for its cozy partnership with the mafia.

Speaker 3 But the mobbed-up Midwest metro of Youngstown is also home to a wholesome slice of Americana, an ice cream parlor founded in 1945 by a woman who made frozen dairy desserts made with hand-picked fruit.

Speaker 3 The founder, a married woman named Alice, originally sold the sweet treats out of her husband's gas station, and it wasn't long before cream was a bigger business than crude.

Speaker 3 The parlor became its own business and today has over 125 franchises in over a dozen states.

Speaker 3 Traffigant died in 2014 after serving a nearly decade-long prison sentence, and his bald corruption has been surpassed by another recently expelled member of Congress, disgraced New York fraudster and cameo star George Santos.

Speaker 3 But Alice's acclaimed eponymous ice cream parlor still stands, the original location by some accounts the busiest parlor in America.

Speaker 3 And perhaps Youngstown should be renamed from Crimetown to Creemetown. This week on Doughboys, Handel's Homemade Ice Cream.

Speaker 3 Welcome to Dough Boys, the podcast about chain restaurants. I'm Nick Weiger, along with my co-host,

Speaker 3 the nicest person in comedy, the spoon man, Mike Mitchell.

Speaker 3 It's a toast spoon man

Speaker 3 from Sean D from the Dose Gord, roasted birdfock.com. I thought I'd do a toast spoon man because, Mitch, you may not know this.
It's Mitch Appreciation Day.

Speaker 2 Was this, did you guys know about this? Kind of.

Speaker 1 Weiger said it casually in an email, and I just didn't ask questions.

Speaker 2 It's Mitch Appreciation Day.

Speaker 2 Was I the CC'd on the email?

Speaker 2 It would be funny if I was CC'd on the email because I probably still would not have seen it.

Speaker 3 You definitely would not have. We're not roasting you today.
We're going to be nice to you. And this is partly due to our guests, largely due to our guests.

Speaker 2 Well, guess what?

Speaker 3 I appreciate it. Of course.

Speaker 3 Love you, buddy.

Speaker 3 It's Mitch Appreciation Day here on the Doughboys podcast.

Speaker 2 Wow. Wigs.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Now I feel bad making fun of you.

Speaker 2 It's fine.

Speaker 3 That's fair game. It's not Weiger Appreciation Day.

Speaker 3 Have you seen Mufasa yet i have not seen mufasa i was trying to see if there was a mufasa happy meal and there wasn't still a trapper keeper ass movie as they say

Speaker 2 i think it was i forgot who said that to me it was mookie or cowpas somebody was like good observation it was a trapper keeper it's like a trapper keeper cover movie and i'm like i haven't seen mufasa but i find those movies aesthetically repulsive because the original the original at 2d animation is so the original

Speaker 2 so good and that i the the old the old one was on tv the other night. I was like, this fucking sucks.
It's bad. It was really, it is bad.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 Why are you just doing this?

Speaker 2 Why are you doing it again? Look, people got paid and people made money. That's nice.
That's what we like. We like.
We like that.

Speaker 3 We like celebrities making money.

Speaker 2 We like all the celebrities that made money.

Speaker 3 God bless them.

Speaker 2 Look, it's wild times right now.

Speaker 3 It's wild times and it's Mitch Appreciation Day here on the Doughboys podcast.

Speaker 2 Wags, I love it. Yeah.

Speaker 3 You get a drop for us, Mitch.

Speaker 2 Emma, hit him with with a drop.

Speaker 2 Oops, all segments. Oops, all segments.

Speaker 2 Look, they got lazy and they've used old segments. It's all new segments.
It's all new segments, you fucking idiot. You don't understand the concept of this?

Speaker 2 We appreciate you. Thank you for the privilege of letting us do this podcast.

Speaker 2 Maybe better, but I did.

Speaker 2 What a groove there. That was from the drop-off, wasn't it?

Speaker 2 No. Was that a residual drop-off entry? Yeah,

Speaker 2 I never heard that before. I thought, well, someone used you saying someone used that.

Speaker 3 Someone used that sample, yeah.

Speaker 2 Hello, this is my first attempt at making a drop. I hope it's okay.
Okay. probably not.

Speaker 2 I refuse to force anyone else I know to listen to it, certainly not my beautiful wife, so I have no idea. I love this dumbass podcast.
Sometimes I don't feel so bad.

Speaker 2 I waste so much money each month on Patreon. So much money.

Speaker 2 Oh, I mean, it is, it's five bucks a month. It's not like it's cheap.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 Eight bucks in the Platinum Play Club tier. But also, like, like you were saying, so much money.

Speaker 3 Maybe there are other patrons, Patreons this person is subscribed to.

Speaker 2 No, it seems like he was like directly

Speaker 2 micro-targeted at us. Enu is a thanks, Enu.
Yeah, Enu.

Speaker 3 Thanks for supporting the podcast.

Speaker 2 And hey, thank you for a great drop.com. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Oh, never mind.

Speaker 2 I thought that the dropper had a name of a quarterback, but I was actually, I was wrong. He does not have the name of a quarterback.

Speaker 3 You were hoping that Patrick

Speaker 2 and a drop.

Speaker 2 Their name up top was,

Speaker 2 yeah. Anyways,

Speaker 2 Jeff Gannon, Blast from the Past. I won't.
Was it? They said they went by Inu. So they went by Enu.
I'm not going to do their real name. I'm not going to dock their real name.

Speaker 2 Trent Dilfer.

Speaker 2 Dilfer is, was that your grab?

Speaker 3 I stopped watching the NFL at a certain point, so all my knowledge is back in the day.

Speaker 2 I like the Dilfer poll.

Speaker 2 I just remember in college

Speaker 2 seeing a hunk guy who was such a dud. I hate hunks.
Hunks suck.

Speaker 2 I love hunks. You know what? You know what's fun? It's a chunk.

Speaker 2 Throw the hunk, get a chunk.

Speaker 3 Sometimes chunky can be hunky, Mitch.

Speaker 3 And you're exhibit A here on Mitch Appreciation Day.

Speaker 2 Thank you, Wags.

Speaker 2 You know what?

Speaker 2 Your example will be.

Speaker 3 Our guest today from Loot Master of None in the forthcoming film, Good Fortune, Aniz Adam Ansari is here.

Speaker 2 Wow, Professor. Hey guys, what's up?

Speaker 3 How's it going, buddy?

Speaker 5 You know, guys, I don't like doing stuff like this.

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 5 No, no, I kind of just do me, do my work. I'm in the streets.
I'm working. I'm in the trenches.
But I didn't really have anything to do today. And

Speaker 5 the studio is fairly close to where I live. Yeah.
And I want to give Mitch his flowers because it's Mitch Appreciation Day.

Speaker 2 And I think a lot of this comes from you, which is, which I appreciate. I was trying to dap you.

Speaker 6 Oh, my bad dog.

Speaker 2 I will say, you say a man in the streets. That is true.
I do often see you around.

Speaker 2 I'm out here. I think my first real interaction with you, well, besides knowing your brother and working with your brother at some point and seeing you through that.

Speaker 2 But for me, and I think for you, why, because the first time we actually spent some good quality time was

Speaker 5 down in the valley, Reseda, California.

Speaker 3 PWG was definitely,

Speaker 3 I feel like, a large part of our initial interactions.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah. Great shows.
And we'd be hanging out in that parking lot for three hours.

Speaker 3 Love the Resita venue, which is no longer in the American Legion.

Speaker 2 Great times. Great venue back there.

Speaker 2 And Great McDonald's up there too, both. They did have a really good McDonald's.

Speaker 2 Good Taco Bell,

Speaker 5 decent IHOP.

Speaker 2 I never went hit up there.

Speaker 5 Denny's, Korean BBQ around the corner. I went to a couple of times with the wrestlers.
Good days.

Speaker 2 I knew you. I knew you before that, but that's where we really got to hang out and know each other more.

Speaker 2 And where Matt Riddle saw me and went, IFC. that's what he said which is great moment for me

Speaker 2 hey hey rip ifc i is it dead is the channel gone you know what i think it's still there but i think it's morally bankrupt i think they just play yeah after they pull they just play rerun yeah they pulled the birthday boys off and i think they just play reruns of young sheldon uh uh so you're you're watching yeah i'm up there

Speaker 2 you know the thing with wagger that young sheldon wasn't young enough we've talked about this on the podcast oh well it probably got exponentially worse for you then

Speaker 2 He's actually, he's watching the show from the finale backwards.

Speaker 5 Have you watched Young Sheldon's brother and wife?

Speaker 3 Wait, there is a Young Sheldon brother and wife show?

Speaker 2 That's the new one. Yeah, yeah, it's about Young Sheldon's brother and wife.

Speaker 3 Like hanging out as kids?

Speaker 5 No, no. His brother's a little older and they get married.

Speaker 2 They're like a young married.

Speaker 3 They're like a young couple, but it's like still a period piece.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Still single cam?

Speaker 5 No, no, no. Yeah, it is single cam.

Speaker 2 It's single cam. Interesting.

Speaker 5 Shout out to young Sheldon and the whole crew.

Speaker 2 Bazinga.

Speaker 2 Yo, yo, Mitch.

Speaker 5 Mitch, let me get a Bazinga.

Speaker 2 Bazinga. Watch out.
Appreciation Day.

Speaker 3 Bazinga Buddy.

Speaker 2 Bazinga Buddies.

Speaker 2 That's a good spin-off show.

Speaker 3 Bazinga Buddies is a good idea. Yeah.
Also could be our recap pod of Young Sheldon.

Speaker 2 Yeah, post-shell. Post-shell.

Speaker 5 With Weiger, Mitch, and Chris Hardwick. Bazinga Buddies.

Speaker 2 I love it.

Speaker 2 Wait,

Speaker 3 there's something else we have to talk about. We're in the recent aftermath of the headgum holiday party.
Yes.

Speaker 2 Hand

Speaker 3 Punk Fest 2024. And while that was going on, a cat was found.
I don't know this full story. So maybe, Mitchie, if you want to drive this, Amelia, you want to drive this, but

Speaker 3 this kind of dominated your experience of the party.

Speaker 2 We get out of our record. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Yeah, we're recording. You may have heard this Patreon episode.

Speaker 2 We're recording while the party is going. Party is happening.
We get out. The party is in full swing, basically.

Speaker 2 Our brands. We're fucking and sucking.
Yeah, people are

Speaker 2 Hollywood and they look good. Baby oil is out.
They looked really, really good.

Speaker 2 There's a ton of, there's surplus baby oil this year because the Diddy parties went away.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 there's, yeah, a lot of sucking

Speaker 2 parents.

Speaker 2 I am like, ugh, my brain is melted. We got to go to this party.
You and I are.

Speaker 2 Look, if we didn't record on the day of the holiday party, there's a good chance we would not have been here just because we're losers that don't go to anything but i think that everyone else was excited to go to the party and i and i was too i was excited to see people and hang out i get some elbows there you go yeah yeah we had a taco they had a taco cart which was nice and some tacos i get out almost immediately from me i hear this news that a stray kitten has been found yes it's in marty's office uh alex who works at headgum she found the kitten put it in marty's office shout out to alex alex great work i

Speaker 2 am immediately like oh, fuck. Well, first of all, I thought when I heard that there's a stray kitten, I was like, my night's ruined because I'm going to go outside and try to find this stray kitten.

Speaker 2 But Alex,

Speaker 2 I, it's, I, I, look, I have some trauma with kittens when I was younger. I love kittens.
So I like, uh, so if there's a kitten I see on the street, it takes up my whole night. This is the truth.

Speaker 2 I, you know,

Speaker 2 the kitty in the marsh. I've told this story before.
It's a very sad ending to a stray cat, kitten I saw when I was younger. I, if I see a cat, I need to try to help it, a stray cat.

Speaker 3 Yeah, as soon as this cat showed up and it's being

Speaker 3 kind of a makeshift domicile for it is Marty's office, the CEO of Headgum. His office is being used as the spot for

Speaker 3 the stray cat to hang out. And I just knew that you were going to be like, I was like, that's Mitch's night.
He's going to be completely fixated on this for the rest of the party.

Speaker 3 And you did nothing else.

Speaker 2 You were right. I did nothing else.

Speaker 2 I ate tacos at one point because I was like, I need to go eat. Krush and Bruski's?

Speaker 2 I had two drinks nervously looking at the door where the cat was. That doesn't sound like Krush and Brewski's.

Speaker 2 it was not crushing brewski's

Speaker 2 bouncer it was anxious i was i was a bouncer standing by and by the way god bless marty for letting the cat kitten be in his room and knocked like a sentimental cup of his off of his desk yes yeah and uh marty's the man but but Everyone wanted to go see the kitten because they were, you know, like, they're like, I want to pay it or whatever.

Speaker 2 And then it turned into me

Speaker 2 screaming at, you know, one of the owner of the network, Amir, being like, don't open the fucking door. Just screaming at Amir.
Give him space.

Speaker 2 Give him space.

Speaker 2 I was just like, and everyone wanted to go in and see the fucking kitty and pet the kitty. And that's what I was.
It's a little kitten. I'm like, it's going to dart out.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 And I'm going to kill you. And that's what that's.
I said this to one of the hunks, and I couldn't have felt more like a school shooter-y. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Sometimes a chunk has to speak up to a hunk. It's true.

Speaker 2 Thank you. I agree.

Speaker 2 It was this thing where

Speaker 2 one of the hunks, I was like,

Speaker 2 I was like, he was like, what would happen if it got out? And I was like, if it got out, I'd fucking kill everybody. That's what I said to him.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 And I saw the look in his face, be like, ooh. And I was like, I'm like the weirdo guy at high school now with all these fucking good-looking hunks.

Speaker 2 Stay out of my lane.

Speaker 2 That's my job.

Speaker 2 They're all thinking I'm a weirdo. Yeah.

Speaker 3 And look. I might also just on that note, the other thing I remember is that like you were talking to Marty.

Speaker 3 He was being great throughout the whole thing, but you were talking to Marty and you're like, your fucking dip shit employees keep trying to get in there.

Speaker 2 I mean,

Speaker 2 sometimes the truth hurts.

Speaker 2 I did say that. Sometimes the truth hurts.
I did say that exact line.

Speaker 2 And Marty was like just laughing at it. And then you know what? To Amira's credit later on, I was like, I'm sorry I yelled at you.
I mean, I was like,

Speaker 5 you can't cancel this show, right?

Speaker 2 Well,

Speaker 2 there's a lot of celebs coming in here. We're the dope boy stock's going down.

Speaker 2 I was like, I said to Amir, I was like, I'm sorry. I was joking, yelling a lot, but also was, at some points, was like, don't come in here.

Speaker 2 But I said to Amir, I was like, I'm sorry that I was yelling. He was like, he was, and to his credit, he was like, no, you were right.
Like, it was stupid to be letting people in. I was like, okay.

Speaker 2 So he was being nice about it.

Speaker 2 There was a little bit of buyer's remorse because, or Mitch, helping Mitch remorse to one of our employees. Yes.

Speaker 2 I

Speaker 2 asked Amelia, I was like, could you possibly take this cat home tonight? And can you help me wash the door? I'm so nervous about this cat. I left the party.

Speaker 2 And just you, you you could not really house this kitten with wally and irma and the kitten could be safe present you know there's a couple issues one we're not sure if i have if it's fiv positive which yes fiv is is cat hiv based yeah amelia also has a cat so all these problems also present this is true but hold on hold on emma this is this is a conversation that we had actually there and we talked about this at at ataco is we had

Speaker 2 we were talking we were talking about this is that

Speaker 2 so you can put the thing is you can put the kitten in a the basically the way that you get FIV, this is so boring, but I got to tell you, is that like it's it's usually transmitted through fighting.

Speaker 2 So they like bite another cat and it's like saliva to blood is usually how it transmits itself. Right.
Wally normally don't.

Speaker 3 If you just like sucked off a cat, you have nothing to worry about.

Speaker 2 If you suck off a cat, you're safe. Okay, got it.
Okay, great.

Speaker 2 Whew.

Speaker 5 I'm good.

Speaker 2 You were guarding that office, girl.

Speaker 2 Or if you eat a cat out, also safe. Okay, great, great.
you got to use a dental that's

Speaker 5 my girl always uses a dental dam with cats

Speaker 2 so i so we were talking outside if you're it's if i've wally normal are very nervous they they they get very aggressive with other cats yeah i could put him in my bedroom or in another room emma which i think you're implying Wally opens doors now.

Speaker 7 Oh, I forgot Wally knows how do I do that.

Speaker 2 Wally can open doors. And I'm just like, this is like, this is just not the, it's not going to work.
Amelia has a bathroom. She was going to put the cat in the bathroom.
Also,

Speaker 2 F, what is it? FIV.

Speaker 2 Not FIV, but leukemia. The leukemia.
There's also feline leukemia

Speaker 2 virus, which is, which is also dangerous. Neuros viral.
I didn't, I didn't think that there. I didn't think that anything was going to happen.

Speaker 2 I said this that night. I was like, I don't think that the cat is positive for either, but she had a bathroom.
And I was like, can you take it home and watch it? She took it home.

Speaker 2 Secretly, I also want her to keep the cat this whole time. It is like, I am, I had machinations here.
Is that the right word?

Speaker 5 You're gaslighting her into a cat ownership.

Speaker 2 Yeah, there is, there's a part of that too, but I, I, I, I, but I, I did, I cared about this kitten, and I wanted her, and Amelia had a bathroom, she was keeping it in her bathroom, which was chaos to her.

Speaker 2 We went to Santa Dor the next day. They took, oh, it was the party was a Thursday night.
Saturday, we went into Santa Dor. Shout out to Sante Dora.

Speaker 2 So, shout out to Sante Dora for which we're going to make a contribution to them. We will make a contribution by the time this episode comes out.

Speaker 2 We've been making contributions to the money. I know, but

Speaker 2 they did a lot of nice stuff. So, they tested the cat FIV free, no leukemia virus, and uh, and it wasn't chipped.

Speaker 2 So, Amelia, if you want to speak up on maybe all of this, because I've given my side of the story here, okay.

Speaker 8 So, Mitch asks me to house the cat for one night, and I'm like, sure, yeah, that's no problem.

Speaker 8 First of all, at this party, I'm way more nervous about Mitch at this point than I am about the cat itself because Mitch is freaking out.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 I was like, I was like clawing at his skin he's so nervous having a panic attack yeah kind of I think cats are so innocent and sweet just a little baby

Speaker 8 the cat was fine and I was like you know what I think the lowest stress situation is for me to house the cat because I don't think I think it would have been a lot mentally for you to not have slept a wink that night no yeah and I was very casual so I was like yeah I'll take the cat no problem

Speaker 8 then the next day Mitch is like can you hold on to it for one more night my bathroom's destroyed at this point.

Speaker 2 Man, what'd you do after those tops?

Speaker 2 That was a miscommunication here for you.

Speaker 2 My bathroom was not destroyed. My bathroom was fine.
Amelia's bathroom was destroyed. The kids had to go to the bathroom.

Speaker 8 So I'm like, yeah, one more night.

Speaker 8 We go to Santa Dore. Everything's good.

Speaker 8 We de-fleed her, de whatever. Yeah.

Speaker 2 De-wormed.

Speaker 8 D-wormed. D-F-I-V'd.

Speaker 2 They put some dewormer in my mouth, too. It's like invernectin'.

Speaker 8 So now I'm allowed to let her out and about.

Speaker 8 And that's where things get tricky because I did a very good job of not

Speaker 8 getting attached to this little kitten.

Speaker 8 And now

Speaker 8 she's sleeping on my neck every night.

Speaker 8 She's a little cutie patootie.

Speaker 5 She's so tested positive for being a cutie patootie.

Speaker 2 Exactly. She's so cute.

Speaker 8 She's so affectionate.

Speaker 2 Wait, no, sorry. She's so cuddly.
You should say the name, which I think is great.

Speaker 8 Oh, I decided to call her now. For now, I called her Sunny because we found her on Sunset Boulevard.

Speaker 2 Weiger wants to call her Cum.

Speaker 2 That was just a pitch. I was going to say, we never lock into it.

Speaker 7 We were calling her Little Caesar for a while.

Speaker 3 We had done a Little Caesars episode that same day, so little Caesars felt fitting.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 2 But a little lady. It's a little lady.
And we like Sunny. We liked Sunny.

Speaker 2 Also, she was found on Sunset Boulevard in a wheel well, a very dangerous spot. Shout out to Alex for saving her.
She's thrilled to be alive, this cat. Yeah.

Speaker 2 But you're a hero, first of all. Amelia's a hero for saving this cat's life.

Speaker 2 No, no.

Speaker 8 It's Mitch Appreciation Day, not me.

Speaker 2 It's the truth. She's the hero.
I merely kind of helped, but I was very nervous.

Speaker 2 It is almost

Speaker 3 look. I can tell you're nervous now just reliving it.

Speaker 2 Yes, I am.

Speaker 2 But also,

Speaker 2 I did say to you that, like, you were going to twist it to me being selfish. And there is a little bit of selfishness trying to save the cat.
Why did I do that?

Speaker 2 On the text, remember, I was like, of course, you're going to try to spin it being like me doing this for selfish reasons, where I'm just trying to save the cat, which I am. I didn't do that.
I know.

Speaker 1 I don't know. You said

Speaker 2 something in your head about him.

Speaker 2 Are you developing a Marvel complex?

Speaker 2 There is a bit of selfishness to it because I do care about,

Speaker 2 I do get very worked about animals. And I know that I'm a guy who eats meat.
I know it's a little bit. Oh, we know you're a guy who eats.

Speaker 2 I know that, I know that I a bit of a, what's the word I'm looking for? A hypocrite. But I don't know why.

Speaker 2 I don't. Look, I'm going crazy.

Speaker 3 This is a societal problem. This is an issue where we have different hierarchies for different life forms.

Speaker 3 Some are vermin, some are pets, some are food.

Speaker 2 Some are hunks. Some are hunks.
Some are chunks.

Speaker 2 I love cats.

Speaker 2 I'm trying to push you towards keeping it. I told you that

Speaker 2 I would give kitten support the entire

Speaker 8 treat this like child support if you decide to keep it. I'm like, I did say it.

Speaker 2 You tried a hard bargain.

Speaker 2 I do want her to meet Wally Nerma at some point. And we want to bring her into the studio, but Casey's allergic.

Speaker 2 Sorry.

Speaker 2 We still want to do it.

Speaker 8 What if we kept her in a cat backpack and we didn't let her out?

Speaker 2 That's how I mean that.

Speaker 5 Or what if you put Casey in a backpack?

Speaker 5 Maybe he needs to be in one of those little tubes.

Speaker 2 Push it over your head while you preview. I'm open to it.

Speaker 2 We can have you in like a contagion suit for the whole episode.

Speaker 2 You give me a contagion suit.

Speaker 2 And then you got to walk out into the alley and get sprayed down with a hug.

Speaker 2 Emma, you got to do that. Okay.
I do that. I'm ready.

Speaker 8 If you have this kitten meet Wally and Irma, you will never let her go.

Speaker 2 I know. I I think they also will try to get a bunch of people.
She matches.

Speaker 2 I know.

Speaker 2 We'll throw some photos into the YouTube channel. Oh, yeah.
She's a polydactyl.

Speaker 2 Polydactyl.

Speaker 8 She's got extra thumbs. Wild.

Speaker 2 Wow. Polydactyl.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 She could be a hooper.

Speaker 2 She could. Yeah, imagine if you...

Speaker 5 Get that cat on the clippers.

Speaker 2 And he can back them up.

Speaker 3 Imagine what an advantage that would be in pro sports if you could be a polydactyl athlete.

Speaker 2 It would really be something. You got like a sixth finger.
I thought you were saying with the cat. And I was like, I think the cat cat will be bad at the game.

Speaker 3 No, I mean, if human beings had that, like, that was a common genetic mutation. Oh, I got six fingers.
I can throw a two-thumbed fastball.

Speaker 2 You could be six-fingered Mitch.

Speaker 5 That's what they would call you.

Speaker 2 Sounds good as hell.

Speaker 2 Wouldn't be using them too much.

Speaker 2 What were you going to say?

Speaker 8 I was going to say, I have made a good faith effort to find the owner of this cat because it was found with a collar.

Speaker 2 It was found with a collar. But

Speaker 8 I've been posting on Facebook, Paw Boost, Next Door.

Speaker 2 Blue Sky.

Speaker 2 Not Blue Social.

Speaker 2 Did you see that? That would be so funny.

Speaker 2 Truth Social, you find the owner.

Speaker 8 Did you say Kick? Kick, yeah.

Speaker 5 That's like the conservative streaming platform.

Speaker 2 Oh, right, yes.

Speaker 5 Mitch's friends on there.

Speaker 2 What's the horny one? What's the horny app that people like just hook up?

Speaker 8 I thought that was kick.

Speaker 2 Oh, is it kicking? You mean Grinder? No, not Grindr, but also Grinder works too. What's the one? Isn't there one where they just hook up? You're thinking of Field.
Field. Wait, what's Field?

Speaker 2 Oh, Casey's a little freak, it turns out.

Speaker 2 Exposed, bro. Casey's a play in the field, if you will.

Speaker 2 What is field?

Speaker 9 Field, it's like, you know, what app if you're looking for a good time.

Speaker 3 So people just, it's like they're hooking up.

Speaker 8 Well, it's

Speaker 3 not for not for finding a relationship.

Speaker 2 Okay. I think it's for more

Speaker 3 casual encounters.

Speaker 8 Not necessarily more like sexually

Speaker 2 open and experimental people, like polyamorous relationships.

Speaker 5 That's what, Mitch, if you want to be be a third, you should slide on there.

Speaker 2 That sounds like a true nightmare. And also, I could just get that from this show.

Speaker 2 If I

Speaker 2 said it on an episode,

Speaker 2 looking for a husky third? Hey, excuse me, Spoon Man.

Speaker 5 We saw you from across the bar.

Speaker 2 We kind of like your vibe. Honestly, it's already kind of happened.

Speaker 5 That's the secret Patreon.

Speaker 2 Waggs has witnessed it a couple of times.

Speaker 3 There is a vibrant hot wifing community among the Doughboys fandom.

Speaker 2 I think that you're doing God's work here.

Speaker 8 There's really not much.

Speaker 8 It's fun. It's fun to do.

Speaker 2 I want you to keep Sonny, but I also know that's a lot to take in another cat. But a second.

Speaker 8 We'll see what happens. I mean, she's warm.
She's melting my heart every damn day.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 8 Yeah, Arthur.

Speaker 7 She's going to work on Arthur.

Speaker 2 So good update. She sniffed Arthur's butt today.
Hey, there you go. Yeah, and Arthur

Speaker 2 let that happen. Wow,

Speaker 3 it makes two of us.

Speaker 2 You sniffed Arthur's butt today. Jemmy pricked up.
She wants to sniff Arthur's butt.

Speaker 2 Talk to sniffing butts.

Speaker 2 Talk to sniff and butts.

Speaker 3 Amelia, I will say what I said previously, which is that whatever happens with this cat, you've already gone above and beyond. That was very, very noble of you to take care of this stray.

Speaker 3 And Mitch, you as well.

Speaker 3 I should say a very, very caring man.

Speaker 3 I've called you Tony Soprano in the past with affection because you have that link.

Speaker 2 That's the biggest insult of all. No, no, no,

Speaker 2 that love of animals. Sociopath that loves animals.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 5 You could choke one of your loved ones to death.

Speaker 8 He's a hunk and a chunk.

Speaker 2 It's true. You're the nicest man in comedy.

Speaker 2 That's true. Tony Soprano is also very funny.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 My YouTube algorithm is a lot of Soprano clips now.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I get a lot of them.

Speaker 2 I was watching one of the Polly beating up. Remember the lady who likes her son, and then Polly beats him up because

Speaker 2 his mom likes him, basically.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I love the, I mean, that's, that's like a great scene because it's just, he doesn't know how to process that feeling. Yeah.
But

Speaker 3 I love the Sopranos. Because, first, there are people who are just funny in the comments, who liked

Speaker 3 a lot of running jokes and a lot of memes, a lot of Sopranos references in the comments. But then there'll also be people who would just be like, that's why you don't disrespect the boss.

Speaker 3 And he's, I apologize for that tangent.

Speaker 2 We had to discuss the cat. We had to discuss the cat.

Speaker 2 cat. No.

Speaker 3 Okay, we got to talk about a couple of things you're wearing. First off, you've got the Gamecocks hat on.

Speaker 3 You are from South Carolina.

Speaker 5 South Carolina, born and raised.

Speaker 3 And you've also got the Kanes, the Raising Kanes sunglasses. Now, talk us through the sunglasses first.
How'd you end up with those?

Speaker 5 Well, I'm a big Kanes fan. Shout out to Kanes.
I love a good box with a sweet tea, slaw, extra toast. I go to Kanes a lot whenever I can.

Speaker 3 Was it ever, like when you were in the South, was it a friend of mine?

Speaker 5 Well, no, Kanes wasn't around growing up.

Speaker 5 I grew up in a really small town in South Carolina called Bennettsville. And we had a local fast food place called the Dairy Dream.

Speaker 5 And they had like, it was owned by a Greek family who were some of my family's closest friends. We were the two immigrant families in the small town, one from Greece, one from India.

Speaker 5 And they had like fried chicken and gyros and ice cream, but their best thing was like a chicken finger box,

Speaker 5 which was chicken fingers.

Speaker 5 slaw, and they would do like a like a roll, like a wonder bread roll. So, the kind of box style that you get at Kane's tender slaw and some bread with the sweet tea.
That's very nostalgic to me.

Speaker 2 Yeah, right.

Speaker 5 So, it's like Kane's was kind of a newer brand. So, as soon as I found out about it, I got into it.
And then, as soon as they opened one, there's one in Burbank and there's one in Alhambra.

Speaker 5 Those are the twos I go to. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I try to hit it up whenever I can.

Speaker 5 And one time I went there and I saw these fire canes sunglasses available. And they are very sharp.

Speaker 5 The lovely lady checking me out said, All you have to do is fill out a little survey at the bottom of the receipt. Wow.
Did that right away. Service, five.

Speaker 2 Food, five. Atmosphere, five.

Speaker 2 Do you have to do you have to give all perfect to get the glasses or were they giving to you no?

Speaker 5 No, you could be honest, but hell, I was being honest. And I got these Kane's glasses and

Speaker 2 we're here. Are you, are you, you were very nervous that you maybe had left the glasses today at the restaurant.
Yes. And they were just on your hat, it turns out.
Yes. That was a huge relief.

Speaker 2 Huge relief.

Speaker 5 I was sitting in the car kind of like

Speaker 3 like a hole kind of like mitch when he was guarding the cat yeah just a hole in my gut anxiety and there there had been a couple of times in the past i thought i lost them and they turned up again but i was like well this this time they're really gone well because you've also got the thing that you know you wear glasses normally yeah and so and i remember when i you know i have laysick i got lay sick uh many years ago um but i used to be a glasses wearer and so like yeah i wanted to do the sunglasses swap as a whole population Oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 I saw you do improv show. Oh, I guess you did kind of wear glasses.

Speaker 3 I had glasses, and then I also had contact lenses. I wore contact lenses a lot once I became a Borland style, right?

Speaker 2 Yeah, very much.

Speaker 3 And then I got LASIC, and then I never had to worry about it.

Speaker 5 Yeah, that's the problem with sunglasses for me because I got to get the prescription. I stopped getting like nice sunglasses because I'd always lose them.

Speaker 5 And then I was out of the sunglasses game for a minute, and then you know what? Raising Canes brought me back. Yeah.
Canes isn't around where I'm from.

Speaker 2 Oh, okay. Oh, shit.
Yeah, it's a Louisiana. It's a Louisiana spot.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 But I know what is around where you're from because we've talked about it before is Bojangles.

Speaker 2 Bojangles. Bojangles is a Carolina spot.

Speaker 5 So if I'm going home here with Chains, I'm hitting up. Number one Bojangles.

Speaker 2 It's a classic.

Speaker 5 Originated in North Carolina. Fried chicken, biscuits, the legendary sweet tea, and one of my favorite dessert items on any chain restaurant, the Boberry Biscuits.

Speaker 3 The Boberry Biscuits were a delight when we had them in Tennessee.

Speaker 2 I like that. You baby told us that we had to get them.

Speaker 5 You got to get them. I fly in through Charlotte Airport all the time.
My parents live outside of Charlotte now in Waxlaw, North Carolina.

Speaker 5 So Terminal B at Charlotte Douglas Airport. That's where the Bojangles is.

Speaker 5 On my way out or on my way in, I'm popping into Bojangles.

Speaker 2 Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 3 The airport Bojangles is a good execution of it.

Speaker 2 It's great. Any direct flights from LA there? Are you going to take

Speaker 2 up?

Speaker 2 Straight up. 25 hours.
American Airways, send me some points. American Airways.

Speaker 5 Send me some points.

Speaker 2 I think no one likes this classification anymore, but I would say you're a foodie. I think that that's fair to say.
Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 2 I'm a foodie.

Speaker 5 I'm an enthusiast. I'm a food, food historian.
I'm a food enthusiast.

Speaker 3 I feel like when we're texting, we're almost always texting about food.

Speaker 2 We're almost always texting about food. Yeah.
Yeah. Your brother, also, too, a big food guy.

Speaker 2 I was saying today that I went to Little Doms with your brother for the first time for the MTV Movie Awards, famously, where I put my hand on Tom Cruise's back for five minutes and then took my hand off of his back.

Speaker 5 And you absorbed his Daytons.

Speaker 2 I sucked them up. I sucked them up.

Speaker 5 Just jokes, Tom. Hit me up.

Speaker 2 All love.

Speaker 5 I met Tom Cruise once and he was really nice to me. He'd remember it.

Speaker 2 Shout out, Tom. Wow.

Speaker 2 That was around that same time. That was that, I was going to say, that was the time I met him was my hand on his back.

Speaker 2 I never really, I guess, got to officially meet him, but I was touching his back.

Speaker 5 Dead in the eyes.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he's a very, very direct chalker guy. I saw that from when he was talking to people.
That's why when you're just hanging out on his back, he doesn't really,

Speaker 2 there's not much. He doesn't turn around too much.

Speaker 2 But I remember in the early days of Lost Fields, like little doms was, and then Best Fish. Best Fish Talk.
Best Fish Talk.

Speaker 5 You know, my cousin,

Speaker 5 who I grew up with, she lives back home in South Carolina now. She lived in LA for a period when I, around that time, when I first moved here.

Speaker 5 And she'll ask, what are, oh, people still go to Best Fish Talk?

Speaker 2 I'm like, no. Oh, they kind of don't.

Speaker 3 It's still an operation, though, right?

Speaker 2 It still is an operation.

Speaker 2 It still is good. I mean, it's just.

Speaker 5 I don't want to throw out misinformation, but I believe there was some like

Speaker 5 problematic situation with

Speaker 5 running some comedy shows there, and maybe there's some problematic information came out about the ownership.

Speaker 2 I don't know. I don't know.
Maybe

Speaker 5 Knicks fans can hit that up, the police.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I'm not sure what, but people don't go to it as much anymore, right?

Speaker 5 Fish tacos is tough, man.

Speaker 5 Well, for me, that was Best Fish Taco in Ensonado was like kind kind of a hot spot back then.

Speaker 5 And then to me, what really took it out was a place that's very near and dear to my heart, Ricky's Fish Tacos. Anyone have ever been to Ricky's?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I went to the bottom.

Speaker 5 Ricky's used to run in the old Blockbuster parking lot on Sunset.

Speaker 5 And then he moved. He was for a while on Riverside Drive.
And Ricky, me and my brother got to know him over the years. He catered some stuff for us.
He's just a super nice guy.

Speaker 5 And I think like he got put that, you know, it's tough running these food trucks. And I think like, especially that area in Los Feles, Riverside Drive, I think the like

Speaker 5 under the bridge, it kind of got pushed out by public infrastructure. They built all those bike lanes and those like weird poles they use to displace homeless bike lanes.

Speaker 2 He's fucking biased.

Speaker 5 But that was my favorite fish taco in LA for a long time.

Speaker 5 Now I like,

Speaker 5 if I want to get a fish taco, I'm Moriscos on Sunset.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, that place is gone.

Speaker 3 But wait, so the fish taco, because I remember, you know, I grew up in Southern California, a lifelong LA server dude.

Speaker 3 And the, the, the, I remember discovering the fish taco because it was like, it was not a thing that was even common in SoCal for a time when I was a kid.

Speaker 2 And I, I can't imagine

Speaker 2 what's that? Guisados. Guisados doesn't have fashion.
Guizados is great.

Speaker 5 But I'm like, tamales.

Speaker 3 I can't imagine that there were, there were fish tacos, certainly, in, in Massachusetts or in South Carolina. This is a thing you learn about in L.A.

Speaker 2 In Massachusetts, we have plenty of fish, but no tacos. You're right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, like, early on, I would say.

Speaker 5 I remember I would get a shrimp quesadilla. We could get a shrimp quesadilla from like, there's a very specific style of Mexican food you get down south

Speaker 5 in Colombia where I grew up. There's a chain called San Jose's.
If you're from Colombia, you know San Jose's. And it's very like a little less rustic and more like a lot of queso and like

Speaker 2 a little tex-mexi.

Speaker 5 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they did

Speaker 5 like you get like a shrimp quesadilla or like a shrimp taco, but not this classic like beer.

Speaker 2 Once like, I think there was like, in a way that like salted caramel just became a thing at a certain point like beer battered fish taco kind of became the thing right right yeah yeah yeah yeah now now you can get it anywhere but yeah you could probably get a fish taco back in mass like way back even in the day but it's just because we have a lot of fish and also it was at like the one or two like you know the one mexican restaurant in town or whatever

Speaker 2 fried fish in new england is like clam strip rolls it's always like on bread and so yeah it's always a tortilla yeah yeah but like at a mess i feel like if you there was like there was definitely seafood at Mexican restaurants, and you could probably get a fish tackle, but like, the idea of a fish taco, when I came out here, yeah, more so, I would say, out here, kind of a mind, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 I did want to get your take on Bojangles has a regional competitor. I know it's not exactly, it's, it's, I believe, from Georgia, not from the Carolinas, but Zax.

Speaker 5 I love Zaxi's man, and honestly, I wouldn't.

Speaker 5 This is my personal opinion. Yeah.
I would have considered them competition. I feel like there's two different skews because Bojangles is chicken and biscuits.
That's a very specific skew.

Speaker 5 There used to be, there's used to be a couple of other ones in the area. One from Georgia, I really like, I don't know if it's ever come up on here, Mrs.
Winters chicken and biscuits.

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 5 If you're from Georgia, you know Mrs. Winters.
It's Mrs.

Speaker 2 Winters for Dinners.

Speaker 5 That was a pretty good chicken and biscuit place that closed down. But Bojangles is like fried chicken and biscuits.
Zaxby's is wings and tenders.

Speaker 2 So I'm going to Bojangles.

Speaker 5 I'm getting like a two-piece, either a two-piece in a biscuit, or my personal favorite thing to get at Bojangles is the Cajun Fillet Biscuit. It's a spicy chicken fillet fried on a biscuit.

Speaker 5 I put a little Texas peat on top, get some sweet tea, and the Boberry biscuit on the side. Phenomenal meal.

Speaker 2 Wow.

Speaker 5 Zaxby's is more of like,

Speaker 5 to me, they are Zaxby's and I don't know if you've talked to American Deli on here?

Speaker 2 No, we have not.

Speaker 5 American Deli is a classic like Georgia, Atlanta thing.

Speaker 3 We haven't spent much time in

Speaker 2 the South. We have not.
We've got rid of a show notes. It's wings.

Speaker 5 It's wings. American Deli has and Zaxby's to me have the best like fast food wings.
Yeah, so Zaxby's, I always get and recommend people get.

Speaker 2 Uh,

Speaker 5 they have their main order excuse called the wings and things combo.

Speaker 5 Uh, well, first off, Zaxby's, you got to shout out everything on Zaxby's menu is kind of like has the Mortal Kombat style, where you know, and if you play a Mortal Kombat video game, uh, it's like everything has the K.

Speaker 5 And these like everything is K.

Speaker 5 So you don't have appetizers,

Speaker 5 you don't have appetizers and salads you have zapatizers oh you want a salad no sorry sorry we have a zalad which zalads are insane i i saw an ad uh one thing i like uh about yeah zalad is wild one thing i like about watching sports i was trying to think of a third a third k killer instinct that's a different game a different yeah a different game it's a different game uh i saw a commercial for a zalad on like regional sports tv watching atlanta hawks on nba league pass and it was like here's a salad with two-piece chicken tenders and a whole egg roll and salads it's just, it's just basically the bed.

Speaker 5 But the wings and things combo is great. You get some wings, you get chicken tenders, you get fries, celery, and a carrot, and a Texas toast.

Speaker 5 And then you get Zach sauce, which is kind of like their Kang sauce. And I like to do Wings and Things combo.
I do the tongue torch wings, which is like one step up from hot tongue torch.

Speaker 5 And then a little, you know, they don't advertise this on the menu, but you can get your wings tossed in, excuse me, your tenders tossed in a wing sauce.

Speaker 2 Oh, wow.

Speaker 5 So I like to do, they have a really nice teriyaki sauce. I'll get tenders in the teriyaki sauce, extra ranch, extra toast, boom.

Speaker 2 So Zaxby's is great. I love, I love Zaxby's.

Speaker 5 If I'm home for a while, I'll try to hit Zaxby's, Bojangles.

Speaker 5 I'd say my top Waffle House. That's the one I don't get that out here.
Waffle House is probably my favorite, favorite chain.

Speaker 3 Waffle House is what we've said before on the podcast. We're glad it's not out here.
Like these regional chains should stay regional. And like it loses some of its charm if it expands out.

Speaker 2 It would be pretty cool if we had a opening. It would be great if you had a 24-hour waffle house that was really hit.

Speaker 5 Yeah, they're opening a Bojangles out in Southern California, and I feel like it is a little bit of that vibe. They're going to fuck it up.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's that's it's a look, it's a huge possibility, but I will say, just also the late-night food game in Los Angeles went so downhill.

Speaker 2 I mean, almost everywhere because of COVID, so many places, late-night food game went downhill.

Speaker 5 It's just tacos, it's just tacos, really.

Speaker 2 It's mostly tacos.

Speaker 2 You can go to Langers, but I mean, that's kind of like, I mean, you're if you're over there, like it's it's it is, it's just it's just trickier now where like even even when i would go to cactus taqueria which would be open until four in the morning on vine it's closes at like midnight now but is ricky's fish talk is is ricky's gone i you know i i've lost ricky if you're hearing this man please reach out to us i just we haven't heard from you for a while i hope he's okay i hope

Speaker 5 i think he just is you know dealing with business and he kind of went dark on social but uh

Speaker 2 like dark like he's making like up jokes he's gone q and on no

Speaker 2 he just can't stop.

Speaker 5 He has a manifesto like making jokes.

Speaker 5 No, no, they just kind of wound down business.

Speaker 2 I don't know what's up there, but I never got the because the lobster tacos were the ones that they had on certain things. I mean, can I tell you guys, can I tell you guys a secret?

Speaker 5 Yeah, please. You may have to end this at the pod.

Speaker 2 Okay, great.

Speaker 5 But Ricky's hasn't been operating, but

Speaker 5 he did give me and my brother the recipe.

Speaker 2 Wow.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 5 we've made it with the Ricky's recipe, And

Speaker 2 we've done a pretty good job.

Speaker 5 Wow. It's pretty good.
Though, the only problem is

Speaker 5 like he gave us the recipe, like he makes it. And my brother didn't scale it down.

Speaker 2 So we just had this like big ass tub of like batter. And it was just like, he put it in the fridge.

Speaker 5 And my brother's the king of like, oh, you think this has been in the fridge for like three weeks, four weeks, five weeks. Is it good? You think it's good? I'm like, no.

Speaker 5 He'll call me in the middle of like, you know, he lives in London. So we have a time difference.
So it'll be like the middle of the night here, early in the morning.

Speaker 5 Like, hey, man, I had this curry in the fridge for like,

Speaker 5 I don't know, I made it on Sunday. Like, do you think it's good? I'm like, it's Thursday, man.
Like, I don't know. Smell it.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's

Speaker 2 five days afterwards.

Speaker 5 That's that's I try. People get pretty paranoid about stuff like that.
I try to just make small portions and eat quickly.

Speaker 2 The smarter way to do it.

Speaker 3 I am, I am, Natalie is great about it and I'm mad about it. I do like it.

Speaker 2 I do like leftovers.

Speaker 5 I feel like some people have an anti-leftovers take. I love leftovers.

Speaker 2 I think that's both trash and racist.

Speaker 3 I just said I love leftovers.

Speaker 2 Oh, wait. Okay, sorry.
I didn't know what you said.

Speaker 2 I mean, I do too. I love leftovers.

Speaker 5 I love leftovers, and I voted for Barack Obama.

Speaker 3 Things change over the next month when you're like, we are sorry for saying we like leftovers.

Speaker 2 I'm sorry that I said I voted for Barack Obama.

Speaker 2 I did not vote for him.

Speaker 2 I, of course, voted for Barack Obama twice, actually.

Speaker 2 Did I vote twice? Yeah, I probably voted twice. I think so.

Speaker 2 I think the one election I didn't vote for was, well, I won't say it.

Speaker 3 I did say I did try to get that you were a Romney guy going on the podcast, and that didn't really get any traction.

Speaker 3 It wasn't.

Speaker 2 There's all the Raptors who are Romney guys.

Speaker 2 You know what?

Speaker 5 I did vote for is Chunk of the Year, and I voted for my man Mitch. Mitch Appreciation Day.

Speaker 2 Hold on a second. I'm not sure if Chunk of the Year.
It's pretty good.

Speaker 5 Fuck Josh Gad. It's Mitch this year.

Speaker 2 I think dad's won it four years running this is me

Speaker 5 dad always beats me for for for chunk of gad won gad always wins chunk of the year and then cries at the acceptance

Speaker 2 it's okay to cry

Speaker 2 we gotta talk we gotta talk that is a shot on gash gad we gotta talk undeserved we gotta talk i fuck josh gad we're going for it yeah we're like josh gack you fucking slimy fuck

Speaker 3 We're sorry for saying fuck Josh Gadd.

Speaker 3 Calling him Josh Gak.

Speaker 5 Hey, Josh Gadd, your children's book, Pitcher Face Lizzie, sucks.

Speaker 2 Wow.

Speaker 5 I wouldn't let my niece read that for shit.

Speaker 2 Come find me, Brock.

Speaker 5 I'm outside.

Speaker 5 I'm outside. I'm in Los Angeles.

Speaker 2 Where are you? Is Gad, is he tough at all?

Speaker 5 I'm sure he's a nice guy.

Speaker 2 He's busy fucking Quartz. I don't care.
He isn't here. Oh, yeah, that's right.
He fucks Qbert. He fucks Qbert and pixels.

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Speaker 2 Do it.

Speaker 2 I want to say when I, when I, when I, first of all, bike lanes tie into the restaurant today. That's right.

Speaker 2 Newly installed bike lanes that look like shit are, they already look like shit so fast. That's Los Angeles for me.

Speaker 5 They look like giant, like, they're just covered

Speaker 5 condom penises.

Speaker 2 Yes, they do. That's, I mean, that's a great way to

Speaker 2 describe it.

Speaker 3 I don't like the plastic barricades that they use because, first off, I don't think they do anything to dissuade motorists. I think people just run them over.
I think

Speaker 3 they need some actual stopping power there.

Speaker 5 People are, I mean, if you drove by that, you know, it's the four posts and there's parking spaces. People will park all caddywampus left and right.

Speaker 2 They really will.

Speaker 5 It was crazy. But give us a curve.

Speaker 5 The idea of bike lanes, you know, know it's like we want to have more more transit more infrastructure for for people to ride around when i pulled up to handles yes our restaurant for today america's creamery since 1945 1945 that's right so my dad was three when it was a landmark year in american history yeah some people call it the turning point oh we're talking shortly after j robert oppenheimer dropped the atomic bomb on two beautiful cities in Japan.

Speaker 5 We're talking about Alice Handel had a dream of making premium ice creams of a variety of flavors and serving them to the people of this beautiful country.

Speaker 2 Wow. Wow.

Speaker 3 Just riffing out an intro.

Speaker 2 Very well done.

Speaker 2 Right around when Oppenheimer,

Speaker 2 that's right, right then, huh? 45.

Speaker 2 45 is when it ends. Is that when it ends? Is that when it comes to the end? Yeah, 1945, yeah.
The war ends, huh? WWU, BJ,

Speaker 2 the second big one. Yo, yo, real quick, real quick.

Speaker 5 Shout out to the greatest generation.

Speaker 2 It's my dogs. There's some good ones in the Greatest Generation.

Speaker 5 You know, Greatest Generation was a joke, but now you look at like Generation Now, our generation, Generation Coming Up, like, yeah, it probably

Speaker 2 peaked very good. He probably peaked with that generation.
It was a pretty, there's like fixed tire, and like. There's boomers.
I know, I know. I know that I went after

Speaker 3 20 silent generation, right? Is that what the same overlap resent? Or is it partly greatest generation, partly boomer? I think it's, it's all, I think it's all silent generation.

Speaker 2 Look, Hollywood Boulevard, fine, turn it into a dream made and broken.

Speaker 2 Anise is right. Dreams are made and broken on this street.
Turn it into a bike street. Have it just so you can cross traffic there and going east to west.
It is.

Speaker 3 I think that's the idea of shutting down Hollywood Boulevard.

Speaker 2 It's already shut down so much anyway.

Speaker 3 It's one of the worst parts of the whole city, and the idea of making that into a walkable space instead of closing it to through traffic seems to make a lot of sense.

Speaker 3 It seems like a way they could get it.

Speaker 2 Bike lanes aren't so perfect. I didn't say that bike lanes were perfect.
I said we need more bike lanes.

Speaker 2 We need more bike lanes and we need more bus lanes. We need a fucking

Speaker 2 bike lane and it's annoys the out of me

Speaker 2 you were wrong just admit you were wrong on the bike lanes what do you mean was wrong about the bike lanes what are you telling you talking about what happened today in front of the restaurant a debacle yeah that guy was parked in the wrong there was a there was a guy so when we got to handles today wrong about the immediate next

Speaker 3 we're not getting into a fight about this

Speaker 3 we're not going to fight about bike lanes on mitch appreciation day

Speaker 3 But more bus lanes and more bike lanes are generally good.

Speaker 2 Sure. Okay.

Speaker 2 I'm just being a bad guy here.

Speaker 5 But devil's advocate, tell them what happened at Handles, Miss.

Speaker 2 That's there.

Speaker 2 I pulled up and I was parked in one of the new spaces that makes space for the bike lane. It narrows the road, traffic is worse.
But

Speaker 3 we should clarify, just to repeat, just to paint a picture for people who maybe haven't seen this in their town. This is a thing that you see.
We saw a lot of in Toronto.

Speaker 3 It's like a newer approach or a somewhat newer approach.

Speaker 2 And all the transport guys hated it so much.

Speaker 3 Well, yeah, if you drive for a living, it's a little bit, but I mean, there's also just an overall, we're not going to get into it.

Speaker 2 Anyway, I was going to say, there's sidewalk, I am for the middle, sidewalk, bike lane,

Speaker 3 barrier, and then parking. Yes.

Speaker 2 And so if it wasn't done in such a shitty Hollywood way, I would have been more.

Speaker 3 I'm not saying it's a great implementation of the idea, but it's a good idea.

Speaker 5 If it was a sensible barrier, maybe.

Speaker 5 Like, yeah, the little pylon system, they're also on Riverside Drive. It's the same shit that displaced Ricky's fish tacos.
There's a lot of negativity coming from these fucking pylons.

Speaker 2 And look, I will say this.

Speaker 2 There were two bikers today using the bike lane, but at the same time, there was a guy who pulled up and parked in a loading zone in the bike lane. Yes.

Speaker 2 And there was a huge fight between one of the bikers, and the biker was in the right. The biker was like, hey, man, you have to park on the other side of the bike lane.
You're parked in the bike lane.

Speaker 2 And like those guys almost hit him on their bikes. And the guy went off and was just fucking swearing at these guys.
He's like, fucking keep going. He was like, he was like, fucking keep going.

Speaker 5 And Mitch was like, can I get the brownie?

Speaker 2 it is true. I was, I, I was ordering my, and I, and this guy was getting into a big fight with this guy parked there right near where my car was parked.

Speaker 3 I was on the other side. We did get the bystander thing, which I always love, which is the guy who sees that you were like observing and then just is like, like, you guys are on my side, right?

Speaker 3 Like a guy biker just

Speaker 2 crazy, right? Yeah, right. I've sometimes been that guy.
I love getting that reassurance. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 I gave him this thing where I was like, yeah, man, he didn't get it. That's what I said.

Speaker 2 And then I looked over nervously to see if that guy heard it.

Speaker 2 Because

Speaker 2 I didn't want to have to be like, fuck. And the guy's like, oh, yeah, fuck you, too.
I'm like, fuck.

Speaker 2 And you're holding a massive brownie sundae with a tier on top. Look, what'd you say, bro? I would have kicked the shit out of that guy in his car.
Actually, he was pretty aggressive. I don't know.

Speaker 2 He was kind of a...

Speaker 2 He was a big dude, but he was pretty aggro. And I wouldn't want to mess up myself.

Speaker 5 Who wins in a fight? That guy? versus the three of us and small spoilers, Susser.

Speaker 5 I mean, Susser, I'm going to go ahead and take him out of the the equation. I don't think he's jumping in.

Speaker 2 No, he's not. No, he's not.
I don't think he's in.

Speaker 2 Susser would at least break things up when we were getting our asses kicked. He might break things up.

Speaker 5 I would try to cover him. Or maybe

Speaker 2 actually, Susser might join in on that guy's side when we're losing.

Speaker 2 There's a possibility that Susser would jump in and fucking start hitting us. He's anti-bike lanes as well.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 5 Susser covered in whipped cream and ice cream.

Speaker 2 Handle. Susser was covered.
We'll get into that. We'll get into it.

Speaker 3 Handel's homemade ice cream, as Adidas said, was founded in 1945 in Youngstown, Ohio by Alice Handel. Alice sold ice cream made with fruit from her own backyard out of her husband's gas station.

Speaker 3 That's the genesis of this place. I think there are still a lot of fresh fruit mix-ins into their creams.
The ice cream is made in-store each day.

Speaker 3 It expanded to California in the 2010s and has over 120 franchises in 14 states. So here's the thing.

Speaker 2 I didn't know much about Handels just in general. I died.

Speaker 3 We saw them popping up because they were in SoCal, but they started popping up in L.A. proper within the past five years.

Speaker 3 And I was worried they might be a pandemic casualty, but they seem to be thriving or at least surviving.

Speaker 3 They

Speaker 3 I did not I had never had handles before.

Speaker 2 I had never had it.

Speaker 5 And then you saw this National Geographic.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 5 That was the big thing.

Speaker 3 National Geographic said it was like the best ice cream in America.

Speaker 2 Interesting. So,

Speaker 3 you know, but this was 2006, but still, it's like it's well regarded and it has a lot of history.

Speaker 3 Because I'd never had handles and because I'm a bit of a creamsman, which I believe our guest is as well.

Speaker 5 Same and had never had handles as well.

Speaker 3 I made three separate trips to handles to try to sample all of their offerings because the thing that you deal with with ice cream is you can't have nice research. You can't have like just

Speaker 2 diminishing returns.

Speaker 2 Fat piece of shit.

Speaker 3 You can't have like, you can't have like eight scoops of ice cream in one sitting. You need to spread it out a little bit.

Speaker 2 I went. I went last night.
Yeah. To be fair.

Speaker 5 Me and Mitch went twice.

Speaker 2 We went to back. I went today.
You guys were going today and I was like, okay, I'm going to

Speaker 2 be at today as well.

Speaker 2 And I did not know much of handles at all.

Speaker 2 I love the vibe of the place. You were sending me photos.
It's a counter. It's old school.

Speaker 5 The handles in Hollywood that we went to is kind of a counter vibe.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Weather has been kind of nice. That was cool.

Speaker 2 It was, it was, I think that this place is going to go crazy in the summertime.

Speaker 2 Yes. Especially that spot.
That street. Look.
The bike lanes are making it pretty nice. That street.

Speaker 5 Also, a couple of options, a couple of small local chains, home state, go get them tiger up in there.

Speaker 2 That's right. So go roll.
And Mendocino Farms right next to the business.

Speaker 5 Mendo, CFG, California Fish Grill.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah. Just opened up.
I like California Fish Grill.

Speaker 3 Would you like that or California Chicken Cafe more?

Speaker 2 I like California Chicken Cafe more, but I like California Fish Grill. It's good.
It's a good option.

Speaker 2 Should I talk about what I did last night? Yes, please.

Speaker 2 I got myself a hurricane.

Speaker 2 Cane. So that,

Speaker 5 I was, when I saw Hurricane on the menu, I was a little confused at first because to me when I see hurricane I don't know if it's a regional thing or I think of this like an alcoholic drink called the

Speaker 2 Hurricane

Speaker 5 Yeah, so that's what I thought and then I was like oh no it's ice cream thing and now I realize oh it's it's just a it's a direct shot at DQ.

Speaker 2 It's their blizzard.

Speaker 3 It's their version of a blizzard.

Speaker 2 It's their blizzard.

Speaker 3 It is. This is the thing that Natalie pointed out is like a lot of their flavors a lot of their menu items are like you know, basically royalty-free nods to existing things from competitors.

Speaker 2 Like for instance, they have that.

Speaker 3 They have the hurricanes, which are the blizzards.

Speaker 5 The other one that that i think is really noticeable is they have a a chunky monkey that is just exactly chunky monkey that is called uh monkey business monkey business this is a little more niche and i've seen this come around at different places but they have the the cookie monster style flavor they do which is a blue ice cream with Oreo cookies and classic chocolate chip cookies.

Speaker 5 You see it on a lot of menus, and I could be wrong, but to my knowledge, that flavor originates at the California, Southern California chain Afters.

Speaker 5 Because Afters afters was the first place I saw it, and they dropped it when they were doing an official collab with Sesame Street Workshop. Wow.

Speaker 5 And they specifically used the like to the Panatone point

Speaker 5 die that's proprietary to Sesame Street Workshop and the Cookie Monster for that. So I think anytime you see that, I think that's a ripoff of Afters.

Speaker 2 I could totally say that. I could be wrong.

Speaker 5 If I'm wrong on Reddit,

Speaker 5 correct me, but do it in a nice way. You don't got to be like, well, well, you know what I mean? Just be like, hey, man, I heard what you said.
We got bad

Speaker 2 information. It's not going to be in a nice way.

Speaker 5 Well, I'm trying to activate change amongst your community, dog. So just like, think about how you present the information.

Speaker 3 I think people will have a will be commenting in good spirits here on Mitch Appreciation Day.

Speaker 2 This will be a secret. Celebrate some love is all I ask.

Speaker 2 I think you're right, Wise. I think people will be really nice today on Mitch Appreciation Day.

Speaker 5 Speaking of saying something nice about Mitch, I just kind of noticed this fits kind of of giving a little cookie monster.

Speaker 2 Kind of do have a cookie monster. A little cookie monster vibe.
Ookie cookie. Yeah.

Speaker 2 That's classic cook. You know what I'm going to say? Give me Ookie Cookie.
You know what I want to say, Anise, is that speaking of very nice,

Speaker 2 I meant to say this up top.

Speaker 2 Last Thanksgiving, I was ill. I had the flu.

Speaker 2 I was sick with the flu, so my Thanksgiving was awas.

Speaker 2 This guy came over with a Thanksgiving dinner and dropped it off at my door.

Speaker 3 Brought you a plate.

Speaker 2 It was extremely nice.

Speaker 2 It was extremely nice. I'll never forget it was a very nice gesture.

Speaker 5 Truly one of the saddest texts I've ever gotten.

Speaker 5 I didn't make chasers for Thanksgiving going, I have the flu. I'm by myself at home.

Speaker 10 I think I said like, oh, are you going to eat anything?

Speaker 2 You're like, I may order some dominoes or something.

Speaker 5 Bro, I'm bringing you a plate, dude.

Speaker 2 We're pretty close by.

Speaker 5 We have leftovers. I'm bringing you a plate.

Speaker 2 A great plate, too, by the way.

Speaker 5 Awesome Thanksgiving at my brother's house. Me and my brother love to kind of cook and entertain.
So we had a lot of food on tech that year.

Speaker 2 A great play. It was a great play.
And it was very, it was very good.

Speaker 5 We had the turkey going,

Speaker 5 rice. You already, me and my brother do a classic southern style mac and cheese.

Speaker 3 Oh, that's fun. Wait, what's your secret to your mac and cheese?

Speaker 5 Well, we, when I was growing up, both my parents worked. My dad's a doctor.
My mom. works at the hospital, the medical office.

Speaker 5 So we had a nanny that took care of us and she would make us, she was a woman who grew up in South Carolina and she just made made us all southern food growing up wow fried chicken biscuits mac and cheese rice and gravy collards wow so we ate that food growing up all the time and she

Speaker 5 kind of i learned some of the recipe from from her and then we've kind of adjusted and perfected it to kind of what we do but it's a classic i mean not some people find it controversial you know what i mean it's a classic uh southern style baked mac and cheese so it's got creaminess with a crispy top that's why i like i know some people are anti-crispy top, some people prefer just straight creamy.

Speaker 5 And I say, you do you.

Speaker 3 You know what I mean? Yeah, I don't understand it. I don't think there needs to be a schism here.
I think there's room for both.

Speaker 5 That's a problem with this fucking country today.

Speaker 2 Schism, good tool album. Oh, great.

Speaker 2 I love that. I love,

Speaker 5 it's one of my favorite songs to play on the bass guitar, classic bass riff.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 5 Justin Chancellor, one of the great bass players.

Speaker 2 What's your

Speaker 5 and fun bringing it all around? When we first met in Reseda, California,

Speaker 5 at the parking lot, we were standing right by Adam Jones, guitarist of Tool.

Speaker 2 That's right, the regular. That's where I met him.
Oh, like Enema. Shout out to Adam.
What were you going to say?

Speaker 3 No, I was going to ask, what's the cheese blend you do?

Speaker 5 Usually just like a mix of cheddar, maybe it's Monterey, maybe a little parm, but yeah, I keep it simple. I think a lot of stuff with cooking is a lot.

Speaker 5 Keep it simple and fresh ingredients is kind of my mantra with cooking.

Speaker 2 Tool, big, big comedy fans.

Speaker 2 They were like in, I think they were like, with Bob and David, they went to tapings a bit, but I think they were in Mr. Show, like in the audience of Mr.
Show. The Maynard, I think, is canceled.

Speaker 2 I think he got in trouble, but but uh, but uh, they they the song Enema is about it's that Bill Hicks bit about Arizona Bay. That's right, just just some I want to toss out some knowledge.

Speaker 5 RIP Bill Hicks.

Speaker 5 You know, one of my favorite things about Mitch that I appreciate is Mitch knows facts.

Speaker 3 Mitch does know facts.

Speaker 2 I do know facts.

Speaker 2 You guys out there, you don't think I know facts. I know a lot of fucking

Speaker 2 quite a few facts. Fucking pay attention sometimes.
I'm not wrong every single time.

Speaker 2 By the way, I just want to say, if you thought my Thanksgiving sounded really depressing, I wish you could have gotten a window into what Wigs was doing at that exact moment.

Speaker 2 Playing a video game while Natalie's in the other room.

Speaker 2 I think that was a note on Sunday, so I can't reach out.

Speaker 3 Pretty much my default

Speaker 2 day at home playing video games while Natalie. Thanksgiving, you don't usually do too much, right?

Speaker 5 No, we don't do it. We don't do it.

Speaker 2 You don't do a Thanksgiving dinner ever.

Speaker 3 We'll sometimes make something for the two of us, but we decided a while ago because all of our family is in Southern California.

Speaker 3 So like, it's just like every single occasion, everyone is right there. And so we decided we're going to take this holiday and just have this be for us.
So we just kind of do our own thing.

Speaker 3 And we usually will make a dinner or maybe we'll get some food out or whatever.

Speaker 2 When do you see the family? Christmas or like a

Speaker 2 whole

Speaker 2 bunch of

Speaker 2 a bunch of other days. Like people got birthdays and shit.

Speaker 3 I just saw my family. What do you want?

Speaker 2 I know. I love your family.
I text with your dad all the time and your mom. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Nice. Wait,

Speaker 3 I'm remembering something. My brother, my alpha brother, Nate,

Speaker 3 he got a new job with a workshop tech industry. He got a new job at a startup called Pipe.
And I saw him. I know, this is the thing.
I saw him.

Speaker 3 This is the thing. I saw him at Christmas and he's like, hey,

Speaker 3 you'll figure it out. But I don't know.
I thought there could be something with like laying pipe or like smoking pipe or something like that. And I was like, I don't know.

Speaker 2 I was like, that's pretty good.

Speaker 2 The guy's an alpha man. Yeah.

Speaker 2 He's the man.

Speaker 5 Always got to be an alpha brother.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Peyton and Eli. I'm an Eli.

Speaker 2 You're an Eli?

Speaker 5 I'm definitely an Eli dog. I do me.
Hey.

Speaker 2 That's a really

Speaker 2 good Eli does. Hey, Eli.

Speaker 2 Peyton

Speaker 2 twice. God damn it.

Speaker 5 Yeah, Peyton. Peyton has the big voice, but Eli does him.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Sorry. I took that out on God.

Speaker 2 It's not his fault. Not his fault.

Speaker 5 I mean, at least the Pats are doing

Speaker 5 not good this season, actually.

Speaker 2 They're very

Speaker 2 quarterback is

Speaker 2 quarterback is decent. Drake May.

Speaker 2 And you're a Hawks fan.

Speaker 5 I'm a Hawks fan. Falcons, Braves.

Speaker 2 Look, this is dated, but maybe they won the NBA Cup. It's a possibility.

Speaker 5 If the Falcons won anything in the NFL, it'd be good. If the Hawks won the Emirates NBA Cup, I would be so excited because the Hawks are my favorite team.
And Emirates is my favorite airline.

Speaker 5 Anyone from Emirates is listening right now. I'm an Emirates Silver member.

Speaker 2 Wow.

Speaker 5 My family is a huge Emirates family. We use Emirates to fly to India regularly.

Speaker 5 Best way to fly to India, straight through Dubai, Emirates. The service is excellent.
Wow.

Speaker 2 please Emirates show me some love they don't fly do they don't do they fly in the United States or no um no mostly just like out okay yeah I never

Speaker 2 fly

Speaker 2 to

Speaker 5 uh uh an Emirates NBA Cup game wow the Los Angeles Lakers

Speaker 5 uh were playing the Utah Jazz and I have an Emirates hat that I got from Emirates because I fly Emirates and it's just a hat that says fly Emirates but it is a red cap and I did go to this game the week after the election, so I did feel a little hesitant about doing it.

Speaker 5 But fuck it, we ball.

Speaker 2 What's up, Emirates? I repped it, I repped it, I repped it. I thought, I was, I thought, I was confused, and I thought the United Emirates are, I thought that it was

Speaker 3 not for the country, the country foolishly thought that the country

Speaker 2 sponsored the cup. It's like how there's American Airlines.

Speaker 2 Because

Speaker 5 Emirates' hub is Dubai, and then

Speaker 2 if you go to UAE, you fly Qatar Airways, which Qatar Airways is also excellent.

Speaker 5 Shout out to Qatar Airways.

Speaker 5 The business class lounge in Doha, phenomenal. If you're ever flying through Doha, throw a little extra money to get that business class lounge.
If you have a long layover, it's totally worth it.

Speaker 5 One of the most beautiful airport lounges in the world.

Speaker 2 Wow. Qatar is a cool country just because it sounds like Qatar.
It does sound like a house. Yeah, that is cool.
That's pretty cool. Also, I got a Qatar Hero.

Speaker 5 It's a new video game. Why there's planned?

Speaker 2 I got a red Wayne Gretzky Vineyard sweatshirt up in Canada that I like a lot. Oh, that's classic.

Speaker 5 And now. You were sipping that Gretzky?

Speaker 2 I was sipping the Gretzky, and now he supported Trump. So now I'm like,

Speaker 2 now it feels like

Speaker 2 if you wear it, I don't know. I'm probably still.
I don't think anyone.

Speaker 2 It's also Canadian. Yeah,

Speaker 3 I think everyone's going to be over it at this point. That's my prediction.

Speaker 2 I think in 2025, I think we're all be over it. Okay, all right, maybe.
People are over it.

Speaker 5 The sun is setting on this beautiful country.

Speaker 3 The, the,

Speaker 3 I am, I like, this is the thing of like marketing. I'm always like hyper-conscious of when marketing works on me.

Speaker 3 And so, because Emirates sponsored the NBA Cup, I'm like, it's the first thing that put Emirates Airlines on my radar at all.

Speaker 3 And so, and then so I find myself looking at the Emirates as the Emirates website and be like, they have a pretty good sign-up bonus for the credit card.

Speaker 2 It's not bad.

Speaker 5 Not that I have even have a reason for that. It's a very Western thing because an Emirates is like one of the biggest sponsors of soccer and football in Europe.

Speaker 5 You know, they're probably some of the biggest teams have Emirates sponsorships.

Speaker 2 So in Europe, they have a great awareness.

Speaker 5 I know Mitch doesn't like Europeans, but I had a

Speaker 2 Italians.

Speaker 2 There's, there's, I do a roofer, the Mercedes-Benz Stadiums is great. And Mr.
Blank man, Arthur Blank, is that who, is that who?

Speaker 5 Yeah, yeah, Mr. Blank.
Yep.

Speaker 2 He's Mr. Blank.

Speaker 5 He owns Home Depot.

Speaker 2 He, uh, he is, he's like one of the, I feel like the owner of the Falcons and the Mercedes-Benz Stadium in Atlanta, GA. He seems like one of the better owners.

Speaker 2 They keep the prices cheap in that stadium. Yeah, it's good prices.

Speaker 3 State Farm Arena, right?

Speaker 5 State Farm Arena. It used to be Phillips Arena.
It's all down there in Centennial Olympic Park. I was just down there.

Speaker 5 I went to a WWE pay-per-view down there with my buddies. Fun.

Speaker 5 And I just love, you know, it's a different world down there, man. You know, you go get a beer.
It's, you know,

Speaker 5 10 bucks, not 20 bucks. You know what I mean? The food, I mean, here, we talk about this a lot, me and Weiger, because we both are very fortunate.
We live out here, we're huge basketball fans.

Speaker 5 We have the access to go to Lakers games and previously Clippers games there. And the state of food services in crypto.com arenas is a travesty.

Speaker 2 I'd characterize it as dire. It's dire, yeah.

Speaker 5 All the food is mid.

Speaker 2 Isn't there a Doritos restaurant? There is a Doritos restaurant. It's a gimmick.
It's not good.

Speaker 5 Yeah. And all the food's expensive.
Like, I bought like a hot dog, fries,

Speaker 5 and

Speaker 5 a beer. Where do you think I'm paying, Mitch? Just not out of context, but where do you think I'm paying?

Speaker 2 I mean, I'm going to go high, and I'm going to guess $30.

Speaker 5 $50.

Speaker 2 $50.

Speaker 5 Meanwhile, down at State Farmer in Atlanta, you have reasonable prices. You have good food.
You have Antico Pizza, one of the best pizzerias in Atlanta. Slim pies there.

Speaker 2 Love it.

Speaker 5 Problematic, but you do have Chick-fil-A. You can grab some tenders, grab a sandwich.

Speaker 2 Which is in the Mercedes-Benz Stadium, which is funny because football games usually on Sunday. So Chick-fil-A.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah. Little loophole.
But they're not open. They're not open.
Oh, that's airport too.

Speaker 5 The airport's the same way, too. Yeah.
But, you know, that's how God intended it. Wow.

Speaker 2 But, yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 5 I just wish that, you know, all these big, and then, you know, I haven't been to Intuit Dome yet. Me neither.
Going soon. But from what I've heard is, is the food is trash there.

Speaker 5 And it's all the same kind.

Speaker 5 And it's like, I think these, these big tech CEO people, these venture capitalists, fucking investment bank people are cheaping out on the food and not thinking about the fan experience. I agree.

Speaker 5 We want recognizable brands. And we want convenience and we want fair prices.

Speaker 3 And we don't want to like a fucking, like, like, it's just like, oh, it's, it's all on an app that scans your face. And so everything's seamless.
Like, that's not what we want.

Speaker 2 We want to, like, be able to walk around. It's like, oh, barbecue.

Speaker 3 And it's like a, it's like a nice local barbecue restaurant or something.

Speaker 5 That's what most other places, I love it. Uh, uh, MSG, you can get

Speaker 5 fuku tenders.

Speaker 2 I love fuku.

Speaker 2 David Chang.

Speaker 5 Shout out to David Chang.

Speaker 5 Uh, uh, the homie. I love his fuku tenders.
They had those at MSG for a while. Uh, I mean, yeah, other places you can get.
I was up in Seattle.

Speaker 5 Oh, I went to, I believe it's called Climate Pledge Arena up in Seattle. Get Seattle a fucking basketball team.

Speaker 2 That arena is dope, dude.

Speaker 5 Just like awesome food, local food, local breweries, and just like, I don't know.

Speaker 2 It's a shame that the team's not doing well either.

Speaker 5 Yeah. And well, you know what else is?

Speaker 2 Oh, no, no.

Speaker 2 I was saying, I'm saying it's a shame with the food at crypto. And I was saying, the team's not doing that good either.
No, they're not. Crypto, Celtics are doing pretty good.
And you know what?

Speaker 2 The food there is pretty good, too.

Speaker 2 Actually, food at the the Celtics.

Speaker 10 You know what? You know what?

Speaker 2 Gardens. Appreciation day.
It's Appreciation Day.

Speaker 3 Congrats on your world champion.

Speaker 2 Boston Celtics. Yeah, we found out some information about the Boston Celtics.
I don't think we can say it. But there's something interesting about where we are with the Boston Celtics.

Speaker 2 We won't get into it. We got to talk about the restaurant.
We haven't talked about handles. We haven't talked about handles.

Speaker 5 Let's just, real quick, guys, I would like to, before we dig into handles, can we just zoom out a little and talk about ice cream in America? Because I feel like, much like coffee.

Speaker 2 We have no time to talk about ice cream in America. We've got to pull back, brother.
You know, I'm a king of context. We got to pull back.

Speaker 5 So you got, I feel like we've kind of gone through a couple of stages and fads, kind of periods.

Speaker 2 We were talking about this.

Speaker 5 Yeah, you had like kind of like in the 90s was kind of classic ice cream dryers or Edie's.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it was like it was less of a parlor thing. It was more of like a here's a here's a grocery store thing.

Speaker 2 Yeah, this is a free robins. Maybe some fun flavors like cookies and cream or pralins and cream.

Speaker 3 Yes, if there were if there was ice cream that you're going out, it was eaten.

Speaker 5 Mint chocolate chip is an exciting flavor.

Speaker 2 Exactly. Cookie dough.
I remember that being invented. Like, that was like a new thing that came out.

Speaker 2 I know, you and I talk about remembering when, when, we remember when chocolate chip cookie dough was invented.

Speaker 2 We were outside for that. I mean, someone's going to correct us and be like, it was actually invented in 1960, but I remember when it was like, at least be nicer to guys.

Speaker 2 But here's, here's what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 And then

Speaker 5 you went to the kind of Coldstone era. Right.
You know what I mean? Coldstone.

Speaker 5 I had a boy back home. There's a marble slab in Columbia that was a Coldstone analogist restaurant.

Speaker 2 So the homie would hook it up.

Speaker 5 But the word, you got an old fixins and the toppings. And like, I kind of never really loved that in retrospect.
I feel like it was just like a bunch of toppings and melted ice cream.

Speaker 3 It's not like the most quality, well, like highest quality cream because the cream is a means to end and it's a binder for all of these various toppings you want to throw in there.

Speaker 3 And it itself is kind of a derivative of the

Speaker 3 like a next beat, but a derivative of the frozen yogurt.

Speaker 2 That was the next stage.

Speaker 5 Yeah, you had your frozen yogurt. I remember I really learned when I moved to LA

Speaker 5 in for the first time in like 2010, Pinkberry was like the spot. Yes.
Pinkberry was the spot.

Speaker 5 And then I remember five years later, like frozen yogurt opened and my mom was like, they opened frozen yogurt down here.

Speaker 2 It's pretty neat.

Speaker 5 And it's like, oh, that's how trends. escalate through the country.

Speaker 3 So we had frozen yogurt when I was a kid in SoCal, but it was a different tier.

Speaker 5 It was TCBY, it was

Speaker 3 penguins, you know. And so Pinkberry comes out and it's like the evolution of that.
And it's like, oh, the toppings are fresher.

Speaker 2 It's a little bit of a higher quality product. I cannot remember.

Speaker 5 It used to be like, oh, this is just the tart yogurt.

Speaker 2 They had one flavor.

Speaker 5 And then it just evolved into being ice cream.

Speaker 3 Right, right. And then the,

Speaker 3 you know, and then you obviously get like the Menshe's and the yogurt lands where it's like the self-serve. Like frozen yogurt is its own category.

Speaker 3 But yes, you were correct that ice cream has kind of gone through like...

Speaker 2 Now we're in the premium.

Speaker 3 We are in the premium slash...

Speaker 5 Jenny's. Yeah,

Speaker 3 we're in the gentrification of the ice cream parlor.

Speaker 2 That's where we're in the gentrification, Jenny's.

Speaker 3 Whereas it used to be like you'd go to like the like thrifty write-a-drug store and like get some from behind the counter, Baskin Robbins.

Speaker 3 Yeah, and so like handles is interesting because it is a throwback, but I also think the quality of product is on par with the more artisan, like higher.

Speaker 5 Well,

Speaker 5 I think the key there is that they are making the ice creams in-house. Yes.

Speaker 5 I feel like that's a noticeable thing between ice cream places is made in-house, I think you're getting a better texture and probably a better flavor.

Speaker 5 The best places I like in LA are the places that are making them inhale.

Speaker 2 Yeah, which do they have a back of the shop where they work?

Speaker 3 They do. They have a, and the one at the Culver City location, which I went to a couple of times, that one has a very large footprint.

Speaker 3 Like, you look at the storefront, like, they've got like the, the, the amount of space they have allocated for their ice cream is like, you know, they get a whole back area where they're doing, they're doing stuff.

Speaker 2 Remember that Good Friday song on Kanye and they say, Ice Cream Paint Job, something like Briars. They shut out Briars on that.
That's cool. You don't, you don't remember this.

Speaker 2 It's a good song, Good Friday.

Speaker 3 Briars and Dreyers are able to coexist because they're just proper names.

Speaker 2 Yep. How about that? Because

Speaker 3 it's like it's sort of thing. Yeah.

Speaker 2 You had Nick's and Rick's. Exactly.

Speaker 5 Yeah. If you made Nick's fish tacos.

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 3 And then, and then if Ricks tried to sue me and be like, hey, you're just ripping off Rick's with Nick's and trying to create brand confusion. I'd be like, well, it's my name.

Speaker 3 What am I supposed to do?

Speaker 2 And then they're like, oh, yeah. Also, your tacos suck.

Speaker 2 Yeah. It's like

Speaker 2 that.

Speaker 2 I pulled up to Handles. I went there last night.
But I pull up today at 2 p.m. We didn't know what was going on.
I got out of a dentist's appointment. It's cleaning.

Speaker 5 Mitch goes to the dentist. He He was like,

Speaker 2 you were trying to say that I was going to

Speaker 5 remember that viral video.

Speaker 2 That was good. I wasn't driving home from the dentist, fucked up.
It was just a cleaning today. Dr.
Toonzie, the man, loved Dr. Toonzie.
I've recommended him to Anya. Anya goes to Dr.
Toonzie now.

Speaker 2 No cavities. Yeah.
But then it was funny to go from my dentist. I pulled back down to my place, sat there for 10 minutes.
You were having lunch with Libby. You were on your way.

Speaker 2 Buddy, Libby Watson, yeah. You were on your way to Handles.

Speaker 2 And so I was like, I'm just going to go to Handel's ice cream, which is the funny thing to go to after your dentist appointment. Right.

Speaker 2 It's like a little kid's dream to go and get ice cream after the dentist, I guess. It's disgusting.
I had just had my teeth cleaned. I didn't really want to do it.
But I pull up there.

Speaker 5 It's not like you're eating like popcorn or something. It's true.

Speaker 2 That's very true. But I pull up there.
You guys are there. And then also.
a surprise guest. Yeah.
So

Speaker 3 here's how it happened. So Libby and I had a little, I had a little lunch.
We walked over. I asked her if she wanted to get joined for ice cream.
She was like, yes.

Speaker 3 She said, she said, like, oh, that would be quite corking, or whatever. She would sort of say,

Speaker 3 she had some cute Britishism. We walked over and

Speaker 3 we waited.

Speaker 3 Oh, we got there. We passed Anise on the way.
Anise was going to get a coffee.

Speaker 2 Got to go to Quick Espresso.

Speaker 3 We get there, and I take out my phone just to take a picture of Handel's The Parlor. And I noticed in my frame is Susser.

Speaker 2 Susser's just there.

Speaker 2 so Suzer's already there, which, by the way, he didn't, he walked there, so he must have been on a walk. And I said this:

Speaker 2 we, we, he didn't even know about us going to to this place in about 15 minutes before we got there. Yes, yeah, so I don't know.
He, he, he acted so quick. What were you gonna say?

Speaker 5 Well, I was gonna say, the timing is crazy because when I was walking towards uh, go get him tiger to get an espresso, I walked by handles and no one was there.

Speaker 3 He wasn't there, yeah.

Speaker 5 And then you guys converged at handles at like the exact same time. It was a mitzvah, Really was.

Speaker 3 How did he do it?

Speaker 2 This is cheetahs across the street. I have no idea where the fuck he was.

Speaker 2 Wait, didn't he have all that cash? We had cash to tip. A bunch of singles.
He did have cash when we had a tip. Yeah.
A bunch of graph singles.

Speaker 2 He tries to give them to the strippers. He's like, Even Besser goes to strip clubs during the day and throws cheese at women.

Speaker 5 His wife knows it's fine.

Speaker 3 We'll maybe edit this out, but I said,

Speaker 3 I was telling Libby that Bug Bane got thrown out of Cheetah's.

Speaker 2 For shoot?

Speaker 3 And then Susa and I came over and I was like, you heard that Bug Bane got thrown out of Cheetah's? And Sussex goes, again?

Speaker 2 Oh, God.

Speaker 2 I don't think we have to leave.

Speaker 2 That's funny enough. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Mitch got thrown out of that fat burger around the corner.

Speaker 2 It's a good fat burger.

Speaker 5 That's a classic. That used to be one of the things.

Speaker 2 I mean, it's a ratty looking fat burger.

Speaker 5 Yeah, Yeah, yeah. I think it's fallen off.
For a while, it was like, oh, that was like a late night.

Speaker 2 Yes, 100%. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I don't know how popular it was.

Speaker 2 We love fat burger. Love fat burger.

Speaker 2 Look,

Speaker 2 I went to this place last night. I was there type of.
I got all America's cream here since 1945. I got there.
There's this fight going on. Susser's there.
It was just complete chaos.

Speaker 2 It was fucking chaos.

Speaker 2 Kind of different from my experience last night, but my experience last night, I went there. You guys are hyping up this plate.
You show me your ice cream sampler.

Speaker 5 It's huge yeah so i say i can't i said to like just context he went to a different handles and got that this is this is the issue and i did mention this yesterday

Speaker 5 the handles on the east side does close at 10 you're pulling up at like 9 30.

Speaker 2 I was pulling up at 9.30, which is not great.

Speaker 5 It's not bad, but just context.

Speaker 2 I got a hurricane, the hurricane.

Speaker 2 There was a bit of a debacle. It wasn't working.
You got to change it to another ice cream cup.

Speaker 2 I was like, and then when I saw the amount in there, which didn't matter because I didn't eat all of it, there wasn't a ton in there. You guys were getting huge portions.

Speaker 2 The buddy portions were small and a medium cup, maybe.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 2 And then I got a small. So it was a smaller and a small cup.
You saw the small I got today.

Speaker 5 It was to the top.

Speaker 2 It was to the top.

Speaker 2 Mine was overflowing.

Speaker 2 And also I couldn't tip on the card. I had to use cash.
So a lot of different things. But look, it didn't matter.
When I went home and I had the orange cream, which you recommended.

Speaker 5 Orange cream dream.

Speaker 2 Orange cream dream. I believe it's actually orange dream dream cream.
Yeah. Orange dream dream.

Speaker 5 ODC, one of their more unique original flavors.

Speaker 2 I I got a sampler, so I'll just tell you what I got.

Speaker 2 It's the Midnight Madness.

Speaker 2 Oh, I had that today. Midnight Madness was very, very good.
I like it. Read the toppings on that.

Speaker 5 It's kind of an interesting mix.

Speaker 2 Midnight Madness is a decadent dark chocolate ice cream rippled with Reese's peanut butter and stuffed full of peanut butter Oreos.

Speaker 5 Really nice. Sounds great.

Speaker 2 It was great. Really nice.
That was one of the four of my sampler wags. I also got the strawberry cheesecake, which I liked quite a bit.
I got the,

Speaker 2 what was the dough one that has the brownie dough? Oh, dough. Oh, no, brownie.
I did brownie dough. Oh, brownie dough.

Speaker 2 So which is brownie and cookie dough and the orange cream dream and the, like I said, the strawberry cheesecake. That was the sampler.
And then I also got the hurricane with Reese's peanut butter cup.

Speaker 2 The hurricane I thought was good. It was tasty.
It was wise. I think.
How would you compare it to a Blizz? I think it's very well done. I don't, I don't think I'm going to be able to do it.

Speaker 2 You're probably getting better ice cream in the Blizzard.

Speaker 5 If you did side by side.

Speaker 2 I think that I maybe like the Blizzard better, but I think that the quality here is very good.

Speaker 2 That's what I was going to say.

Speaker 3 I would maybe go the other way, which I think maybe like the mix-ins, you're getting a larger volume of mix-ins at the Blizzard, but I maybe like the viscosity and flavor of

Speaker 3 the ice cream a little bit more.

Speaker 5 I don't know if you've gotten a Blizzard recently, but the inflation on Blizzards is pretty rough.

Speaker 2 It's been a while.

Speaker 5 So it's not like you're going to get

Speaker 5 $3.99 Blizzard, and then this is like five or six bucks i think the base small blizzard you can get is like six to seven dollars and we were talking like this fucking country okay i'd say

Speaker 5 it's better now back in my day you could get a blizzard for 399

Speaker 3 and they'd hold it upside down we so we talked about that you obviously get the prestige of them turning the ice cream upside down

Speaker 2 you were saying and i agree with you natalie had the same thought i don't think you could do that with a hurricane i think that's the summit that's to its credit i agree i like it more drinkable but i do something

Speaker 2 which is a gross way to talk about food, but you like the viscosity of it. I do like the viscosity.

Speaker 3 Okay, so

Speaker 3 I made a couple of visits yesterday.

Speaker 2 I went on my own. I went twice yesterday.

Speaker 3 I went twice yesterday.

Speaker 3 Once for lunch after a workout, and I was pretty hungry, and I got a...

Speaker 2 You didn't really brag about the workout when you went to get ice cream.

Speaker 3 Just let you know. I'm just saying, like,

Speaker 3 I had an appetite, and that context is important.

Speaker 3 That context is important. I had a big appetite because the medium waffle cone I got, the guy described it to me.
He said, it's four and a half scoops of ice cream. So a medium is 4.5 scoops.

Speaker 2 It's a lot of cream. Sir, it's four and a half scoops of ice cream.
You probably want the large.

Speaker 5 I see how your thighs are vibrating post-working.

Speaker 2 It's split into it.

Speaker 3 But the medium, you get two flavors as opposed to the small. The flavors I got were two recommendations from the worker there.
Confetti brownie batter, which is kind of like

Speaker 3 a birthday flavor, but with a chocolate.

Speaker 2 I love that.

Speaker 5 That's a classic. I will say I I was shitting on Coldstones earlier a little.
They were, to my knowledge, the first people that had cake batter is like a really go-to flavor.

Speaker 2 They really

Speaker 3 were popularizing birthday flavor for sure. And they also had

Speaker 3 the Graham Central Station, which I loved.

Speaker 2 I thought was delightful.

Speaker 5 I think that's a great flavor. And also the name.

Speaker 2 Storky enough that he also would love it.

Speaker 5 Also, the name of a great funk brand. One of my favorite funk bands, led by the great Larry Graham, as many of you know, the inventor of Slatbase and the uncle of Drake, the pedophile.

Speaker 3 Wait, is that really

Speaker 3 what the band is called? Graham Central Station?

Speaker 2 Wow, how about that? Check them out. Here's a roast.

Speaker 5 Some music knowledge. That's my fact zone.

Speaker 3 The Graham Central is a Graham crackery plus with some chocolatey clusters. I thought it was delicious.
I really like the Cavetti Brownie batter as well.

Speaker 3 Although chocolate ice cream in general, like I'm less keen on. I usually like chocolate mixins with a different sort of base, but I think this is a good execution.

Speaker 3 The only negative I will say is the medium waffle cone I got. The waffle cone itself was not particularly notable, and I don't think it's made fresh in-house.

Speaker 5 I mean, can be because if they're making them fresh, you're getting that nose.

Speaker 3 Yeah, and we were not getting that smell at all.

Speaker 2 That's like, I mean,

Speaker 5 just comparatively, like, if you go into a salt and straw,

Speaker 5 like that's part of the salt and straw experience, you're going in, you're getting that cone nose. Yes, 100%.
You got to get them lifts.

Speaker 3 Yeah, that aroma is omnipresent. But so, I like as far as return visits, I was like, I don't need to get a cone again.

Speaker 3 And in fact, I'll be going back to handles, but I'm never going to get a cone because I wouldn't have to go.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I can get a cone. You're going cone-free though?

Speaker 3 I'm going cone-free because

Speaker 3 the cream is the star.

Speaker 2 Did I ask you questions?

Speaker 5 They also have a sugar cone.

Speaker 2 What do you think of sugar cones?

Speaker 3 I don't need them.

Speaker 2 Oh, they're kind of just tastes like styrofoam.

Speaker 3 I don't need them. I want like a fresh waffle cone or I want a bowl or a dish.

Speaker 5 I also just like a cup because of mess factor.

Speaker 3 Definitely. I'm very messy.

Speaker 5 Can be a messy Jesse. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I'm trying to find the ice cream I got today, which is hard, by the way.

Speaker 3 Let me know because I have a photo of the receipt if you need help. So I also got Nellie went back.

Speaker 3 She went for the first time.

Speaker 3 She got the four scoop sampler, which I think is the move because they have a daunting number of flavors.

Speaker 5 Great offering. And I'd say a huge bit of context is a standard scoop is about $5 to $6.

Speaker 5 And comparatively to a lot of places, you're getting basically like a double, hefty double scoop.

Speaker 3 100%.

Speaker 5 So a single, you're getting like two big scoops of one flavor. If you get the sampler, which I believe is $7.95, you can try four flavors, which with the huge, I believe it's over 40 flavors.

Speaker 3 You want to to do that.

Speaker 2 I think it's the move.

Speaker 5 And it's in a little plastic little thing. It's fun.

Speaker 3 So she got a banana cream pie, blueberry cobbler, pomegranate sorbet, and Buckeye, which is their peanut butter ice cream with a chocolate swirl and peanut butter-filled buckeye pieces.

Speaker 3 She said that one was very good. I didn't try that one, but the other ones I tried, banana cream pie was delicious.
And the blueberry cobbler is very good as well.

Speaker 3 I kind of an overall thought on this place is

Speaker 3 I kind of like the non-chocolate flavors more than the chocolate flavors.

Speaker 5 I would say

Speaker 5 the chocolate flavors, I agree with that, with the exception of that,

Speaker 5 whatchamacallit, that we had, the Mitch, the one we got with the dark chocolate.

Speaker 2 Yes, that was fantastic.

Speaker 2 That was really good. Wait,

Speaker 2 the Midnight Madness?

Speaker 5 Midnight Madness. Thank you.
Yeah. That was the one chocolate one that impressed me.
Otherwise, I'm kind of with you.

Speaker 3 And speaking of chocolate, I also got a Blue Monster, which is the public domain version of the Cookie Monster one we talked about earlier. It is blue vanilla ice cream with Oreo chunks and chips.

Speaker 3 I mean, that's just a great flavor.

Speaker 5 I know I kind of just want to clarify the afters context, but if I see that flavor, I am going to grab it.

Speaker 3 I thought it was delightful. I thought it was a lot of fun.
And, you know, I just got a small scoop and a cup, but

Speaker 3 it was more than enough. It was still a huge, huge amount of ice cream.

Speaker 2 Green monster guy, unfortunately. I like the Red Sox.
They're wall. Yeah.
So Blue Monster, I passed on.

Speaker 3 I think you would like this flavor.

Speaker 2 No, no, thank you.

Speaker 3 I think you'd like it.

Speaker 2 I think you'd like it. No, I don't think so.
I don't think so.

Speaker 3 Oreo chunks, chips of hoy chunks, vanilla ice cream.

Speaker 2 I passed it. I'm not happy.
Blue, which is fun. You voted blue.
You're wearing blue. That's true.

Speaker 2 Sometimes you get blue.

Speaker 2 Still, I'm a green man. Your favorite character in the Jurassic World series is Blue the Velociraptor.

Speaker 2 That is not true. Yeah, it is, dog.

Speaker 5 When Pratt, when Chris Pratt, as Owen Grady, went up to him and went, You're my boy, Blue.

Speaker 2 You're tearing up, dog. You were tearing up.
Blue is his boy. Blue is his boy.
Pratt and I are Pratt and I are boys. Hashtag tomorrow fam.

Speaker 5 And also meet me with me too. Hashtag Parks and Record.

Speaker 2 Parks and Reck.

Speaker 2 Look, I'm a green guy, Kermit over Kermit over all Muppets. Wow.
Celtics.

Speaker 5 Damn, Gonzo was feeling himself earlier.

Speaker 2 Now he's in the mud.

Speaker 2 I'm just telling you,

Speaker 2 I didn't try it. This is the issue.
I think you would have liked it.

Speaker 3 I also got a banana split hurricane. And contrary to your experience, Mitch, this dude made the shit out of this hurricane.

Speaker 3 It was like he's diffusing.

Speaker 5 Surgical precision.

Speaker 2 It's like he's defining a ball. It's so good, by the way.

Speaker 5 This guy, this guy,

Speaker 5 just as we're talking games, I had the Reese's hurricane today with just some Reese's pieces in there.

Speaker 2 Great. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 3 I watched him make it and he was meticulous and it was delicious. It was so good.
And I would just say strictly better than a Blizzard in my experience. I just, I just liked it more.

Speaker 3 But and then we went today.

Speaker 2 And wait, did, wait, you had a previous experience in Corona.

Speaker 5 So I wanted to go twice just to get, it seems like the deal here is like, hey, we have a variety of fresh flavors.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 5 I will say I went yesterday and just from context clues, I picked up that there was only one person working and it was one of the owners. And shout out, shout out to him.
He gave me four samples.

Speaker 2 Wow. He gave me four samples.
When we pulled up today,

Speaker 5 the woman who was helping us who was fucking phenomenal. She

Speaker 2 remember her name?

Speaker 2 Maddie. Maddie.

Speaker 3 Maddie from Massachusetts.

Speaker 2 Was she from Marshfield, did she say? I forget. I still remember this.
I think it was Marshfield. Yeah, she was super nice.

Speaker 2 But I would start,

Speaker 2 Susser just tell her to give her my credits because I was talking to her. Like, it was that funny thing where, like, I was talking to her, and then he was like, he's from Massachusetts.

Speaker 2 I'm like, I know. We already established it.
She was asking me about the Celtics hat.

Speaker 5 And then he pointed to Mitch and in the most low enthusiasm voice goes, he's an actor.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yes.

Speaker 2 Said he's an actor. I was like, I know.
Also, like, trying to impress this person. I don't know what he was trying to do here.
He was trying to build up.

Speaker 5 Buster's an agent of chaos, dog.

Speaker 2 He was trying to build it.

Speaker 5 I think he pauses a scene and spills ice cream all over her.

Speaker 2 I think he saw me talking to him when I was trying to build up my confidence. He's a messy bitch, Lily.

Speaker 2 He was very messy. As she was talking about her boyfriend, I think he was like, he's an actor.
I'm like, what what do you do?

Speaker 2 I don't know if he was trying to hype up my. I think he was trying to talk me up.

Speaker 3 Well, you see, you know, this is there's a specific thing is that

Speaker 3 she was like, my boyfriend is working right now on Fallout, the show Fallout.

Speaker 2 Quality Show?

Speaker 3 Quality Show. And Susser goes, Mitch is on a show with a similar premise called Twisted Metal.

Speaker 2 It's also based on a video game.

Speaker 2 You said it's also based on a video game and set in a post-apocalyptic world. A very cool thing to say to a woman.

Speaker 5 Anyways, she was doing her job and she was like two sample limit.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 5 So that kind of bummed me out.

Speaker 2 Maddie, I loved Maddie. She was great.
Maddie was great.

Speaker 5 She was just doing her job. But I feel like

Speaker 5 I don't mess with the sample.

Speaker 5 I feel like, because a thing that happened that people, maybe younger listeners may not remember is during the COVID-19 pandemic, one of the L's we took as a nation was samples went away.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 5 Samples went away and it was tough. You're going in blind on ice cream.
Hard to try new flavors. It was awesome when samples came back.
Yeah, yeah, hey, hugs are back. Samples are back.

Speaker 5 At Costco, too, which is,

Speaker 5 oh, yeah, dude. I stay at the Costco samples.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 5 But so I could only try that many flavors. So I'm glad I went the day before.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 By the way, the heavenly hash is one of the, I didn't,

Speaker 2 what's in that? I don't know, but I didn't. I will say we couldn't.

Speaker 5 I mean, it's, we did our best to cover these flavors. Here's a couple that I tried.

Speaker 5 Brownie dough. I believe Mitch talked about chocolate villain ice cream layered with cookie dough and brownie pieces.
That was great.

Speaker 2 The

Speaker 5 Graham Central Station,

Speaker 5 I ended up, I would say, the horchada, if you love horchata, you love cinnamon, that was a good also.

Speaker 5 I don't know if I'm looking at the straight menu, they have a little cherry next to staff favorites. Horchata, a staff favorite, monkey business, a staff favorite.

Speaker 5 Like he said, that's basically Chunky Monkey.

Speaker 5 And then I would say the best flavors I got in my experience for handles was, I want to shout out my friend Kylie. I have a couple of people in my life uh

Speaker 5 who i have a deep friendship with in life and one of the things we connect on is ice cream wow you know what i mean my friend kylie my friend jason we're just always texting scoops kylie a big ice cream man she went to handles before me and she put me on orange

Speaker 5 cream dream or dream cream yes And that was really good. And then I am going to have to agree with you, Nick.
Banana cream pie, staff favorite. It's the first thing on the menu alphabetically.

Speaker 5 I got a full scoop of that. It was excellent.

Speaker 5 As a southern person, one of my favorite desserts is banana pudding. It very much evokes a grenade banana pudding.
And I would say, too, trying

Speaker 5 ice creams in various places. Bananas a tough flavor to nail.
Sometimes you kind of enter this artificial banana flavor.

Speaker 5 And yeah, I tried a couple of banana flavors at handles.

Speaker 5 Gotta get a stretch on.

Speaker 5 I tried a couple, and they were all really good. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I'm gonna put on a sweatshirt and Jemmy left. I put my coat on, my sweatshirt on.

Speaker 7 I think she thought we we were leaving.

Speaker 2 She's like, I'm out. Make a move.
Uh-oh, whack, whack, whack.

Speaker 5 I'll say, too, my initial impression, too, I like the branding of it. And I think this is kind of getting a little regional.
But in LA and kind of starting to trickle throughout

Speaker 5 the world, you know, they just, like I said, my context with Pinkberry opening in North Carolina. They just opened a Jenny's by

Speaker 5 my parents' house in North Carolina. And I feel like in LA specifically, the ice cream scene was a lot of like, you know, you have Jenny's, you have little salt and straw,

Speaker 5 a lot of different places. I love, you know, I'm a big soft serve fan.

Speaker 5 That place I went to as a kid, Dairy Dream, they did soft serve. So I was like, Magpies is a local thing.

Speaker 5 They have a really fun soft serve, but it's a lot of like flavors with like balsamic vinegar and goat cheese and vegan

Speaker 2 and like rose water, like so much, too much rose water ice cream out there, guys. I don't really fuck with rose water.

Speaker 5 This was like a classic American ice cream party.

Speaker 2 You can still get a tarto flavor, you can get a matcha flavor. They have a few of those, but they have also.

Speaker 5 I was playfully roasting vegan flavors. They do have a vegan and dairy-free, fat-free, no-sugar menu, chocolate almond milk, mango sorbet, mixed berry sorbet, strawberry, and watermelon ice.

Speaker 2 I bet those are, I bet those slap. I would love to go back and try those.

Speaker 3 I didn't do that. The pomegranate sorbet Nelly got was quite good.

Speaker 2 I didn't do any.

Speaker 2 The only flavor I got that was even. I like the strawberry cheesecake flavor a lot.
I, I was on, on the brownie dough, I was like so-so on it.

Speaker 3 Is this, was this today's experience? No, this is last night.

Speaker 2 This is last night's day.

Speaker 5 How would it compare to, because this was another flavor that I would say for a while was my favorite ice cream flavor, was the Ben and Jerry's brownie batter.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 5 I believe Ben and Jerry's was the first one to swirl in brownie batter like that. And that was a revelation, and I would, I would crush pints of that as a kid.

Speaker 2 So here's my thought on this. I mean, look, we have to get, we have to, we have to get to our final thoughts here.

Speaker 3 Well, we still have to talk about what we got today.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah. I'll tell you what I got today.
I got, I pulled up and I was like, I should get another sampler platter or try stuff. I went for a brownie Sunday, Wiggs.

Speaker 2 I, I, I, a hot, a hot brownie Sunday.

Speaker 5 It's a big, it's a big section on the menu. Someone had to cover it.
You got two.

Speaker 2 You got it. So I, I, you have a photo of that.
We can, we can maybe throw it.

Speaker 2 You got a photo of me holding it. I had to step up to the plate and get a brownie Sunday, warm brownie.
This is my first meal of the day.

Speaker 5 I got after having hands in your mouth for 90 minutes.

Speaker 2 That is right. After getting plaque worked off my teeth.

Speaker 5 Just scraping.

Speaker 2 And I got...

Speaker 3 Just a chaotic life. Just go to the dentist, then you go straight to an ice cream parlor to eat your first calories of the day.
And then you go to record a podcast for two hours.

Speaker 2 And then we're going to go get dinner. Yeah.
You and I.

Speaker 2 For the podcast. For the podcast.

Speaker 2 Mud Pie, which has a...

Speaker 2 It's a thing about ooh, thing about ooh. There's a little espresso ice cream with fudge.
And that was fun. Yeah, that was fun.
I liked it. You did? Yeah, I did.

Speaker 5 I don't think you did.

Speaker 3 I liked it. It's Mitch Appreciation Day.

Speaker 2 I got the mud pie, espresso ice cream with fudge and Oreos. And then I also got a Rocky Road, kind of a classic on there.
Classic.

Speaker 9 Yeah, I love it.

Speaker 3 Cheer point. I like that they just have the classic flavors.
You can just get Rocky Road there.

Speaker 2 You can just get coffee. The mud pie was.

Speaker 5 None of their interesting flavors are going too less.

Speaker 2 No. Yeah.
The mud pie was great. I really like the mud pie.
Rocky road, I liked, but it was as good as a Rocky Road can be. The brownie

Speaker 2 all together was fantastic. I really liked this.

Speaker 2 There was no nuts in the brownie. It was a nice, warm brownie, though.
The heat of the brownie.

Speaker 5 It was a good whipped cream.

Speaker 2 The good whipped cream, good hot fudge, cherry on top. It was very, very good.
A good, good sundae. It was very well done.
It just was kind of old school classic sundae. I liked it a lot, Wigs.

Speaker 2 I have a thought. Maybe I'll talk about it at the wrap-up.
I also got, I got this shake, a milkshake.

Speaker 5 That handle branding in there.

Speaker 2 Which was... I love a shake.
Half coffee, half chocolate. We both were a little mixed on the shake.

Speaker 3 I thought it was a good, it was a good execution, but it knocked my socks off.

Speaker 5 What was the texture, initial texture like? Because sometimes shakes, I feel like, like I like in-and-out. I like swinging in the in-and-out.
Like just swinging it in and out, grab a chocolate shake.

Speaker 5 And I love their shakes, but the thickness, it's like, oh, I kind of got to let my shake chill a sec before I can get like into a consistent.

Speaker 2 You want to take a little sip of a three-hour old shake?

Speaker 5 Right after you, Nam Shrey, man.

Speaker 2 They were thick, a big straw.

Speaker 2 I just.

Speaker 3 It was pretty thick. I think that it was.

Speaker 5 It is, I will say, on the menu, it is described as thick, though.

Speaker 2 Thick.

Speaker 3 And then they have an extra thick version you can get. So, like, but we did not get the thick shake.

Speaker 5 And then they have something on the menu called monster. Yeah, the monster with the thickness.

Speaker 2 Who's doing that? No one's doing it. I mean, a monster.
I mean, yeah.

Speaker 2 What were we going to say about the shake?

Speaker 3 I thought it was. The shake shake to me felt like it was there to check off a box.

Speaker 2 Like

Speaker 3 we should have a shake because they were in an ice cream parlor, but it did not feel like, oh, I got to go to Handles for a shake. You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 So I love my brownie sandwich. Last night,

Speaker 2 the hurricane was good. I liked it.

Speaker 2 I thought it was well done. Even though, like I said, there was a debacle getting it.

Speaker 2 When I had the orange dream cream, I was like, this is great. Now, this is great ice cream.

Speaker 2 The brownie dough, I wasn't as on board with, but when I had the bite of the strawberry cheesecake, I thought that was great.

Speaker 2 And then I forgot.

Speaker 5 That's a hard flavor to do sometimes. Sometimes the texture of the cheesecake and stuff isn't good.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 there's like little pieces of like cheesecake in there. And then the Midnight Madness was great.
Your apple pies cream-wise. So, yeah.
Oh, yeah. We went today.

Speaker 3 I got the four scoop sampler. The four scoop sampler.
I did get a coffee just to baseline. It's one of my favorite ice cream flavors.
I just want to see how they did. And you know what? It was great.

Speaker 3 I thought the coffee on its own was better than the mocha simulacrum we made with the coffee chocolate hybrid in the shake.

Speaker 2 Dough, which I like the name of that one.

Speaker 3 I was like, We just have to get that because we're the Dough Boys.

Speaker 2 I mean, hey, handles if you hear this, you know, hit my boys up for a little cross-branding right up the street. The Odo Boy, we'll be waiting, crickets,

Speaker 2 nothing ever happens.

Speaker 3 Oh, Dough, which is just a it's it's an ice cream with um vanilla ice cream with uh Oreo pieces and then cookie dough pieces as opposed to title us because I like

Speaker 2 cookie dough

Speaker 5 like a little one-notie to me. Yes,

Speaker 2 I'm like, oh, Joe.

Speaker 2 Do you want me to do this?

Speaker 2 Oh, Joe. I thought that's like, I thought that's how that's kind of what I was.
Oh, Joe.

Speaker 3 I had a few bites, and I was like, oh,

Speaker 5 I took a bite and I didn't realize what flavor it was. And I was like, oh, don't

Speaker 3 homer when he busts too fast. Like, oh,

Speaker 2 oh, oh, oh,

Speaker 2 homie.

Speaker 2 That's actually when

Speaker 5 the police

Speaker 5 when the police find Mitch collapsed in his apartment after eating too much sugar, they say he oh, Dover.

Speaker 3 Odo was

Speaker 3 delightful, but to me, the standouts were the deep dish apple pie, which I thought was delicious. I thought it was so good.

Speaker 3 And to your point about that, like, you know, tasting like the banana pudding dessert, it was the same sort of thing.

Speaker 3 This tastes like a dust.

Speaker 5 I had a bite of that, too. I would say that was a stand-up flavor.
And absolutely delightful. If we're just talking fun names, like I like that it's deep dish apple pie.

Speaker 2 Deep dish apple pie is great.

Speaker 3 Orange dream cream.

Speaker 2 I'd heard about it from both of you.

Speaker 3 I got it. It's delicious.

Speaker 5 I always buy it by the pine.

Speaker 3 So fucking good. So, so good.
I thought that those four scoops, that was like a Mount Rushmore of flavors.

Speaker 2 I was so happy. We also got a green tea.

Speaker 5 It was kind of solid.

Speaker 3 I didn't have the green tea.

Speaker 2 Amelia had the green tea. Emma, we got you a strawberry hurricane.
Yeah. Which I didn't say.
Also, my nickname in high school was Hurricane Mitch on the football team.

Speaker 2 I told you guys that my football coach nicknamed me Hurricane Mitch. And I also had a drink.

Speaker 5 Was it because you showed resilience like Denzel Washington in the boxing film The Hurricane?

Speaker 2 Which I loved that song, The Hurricane. I was excited when that movie came out.
I thought the movie was just okay, but I was Hurricane Mitch before this happened. Oh, okay.

Speaker 2 Well, not before The Hurricane, but I was Hurricane Mitch in high school. And it was because Hurricane Mitch, maybe Hurricane Mitchell or Hurricane Mitch.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that was Hurricane Mitchell was coming along. And

Speaker 2 oh, so I told you guys last night that was it a name that was like kind of making fun of me. Yeah,

Speaker 5 you weren't making a Hurricane on the Olon.

Speaker 2 No, no, I was not making a difference at all, but Coach Carter was nice. Coach Carter and Coach Critium were funny.
They called me Hurricane Mitch.

Speaker 2 And I also made a drink, the Hurricane Mitch, which was Captain Morgan's and Orange Juice, which I called the Hurricane Mitch.

Speaker 3 Wait, isn't Coach, wait, so Hurricane, that's a movie.

Speaker 2 The boxes. Wasn't Coach Carter? Coach Carter a different

Speaker 2 movie. That's Daniel Jackson.
Oh, look.

Speaker 5 He coaches a basketball team. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 But I had a coach. One of the best sports films, Coach Carter.
Wow.

Speaker 2 I had a Coach Carter. Coach Carter.

Speaker 5 There's like a young Channing Tatum's in there. Okay.

Speaker 2 Good stuff. Coach Carter and Corse from the guys who put me in the equipment locker, who I love.
Yes. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Anyway, I.

Speaker 5 Must have been a big locker, damn.

Speaker 2 It was a huge storage locker. It was down on the field.

Speaker 3 It was like a shipping container.

Speaker 2 It was like a shipping container.

Speaker 2 You showed it. It was.
I showed it. I showed it to him on the store.

Speaker 5 It was a shipping container that's a chunk zone.

Speaker 10 Oh, yeah. That's where we

Speaker 5 uh razz the chunks.

Speaker 2 That's where we hays the chunks.

Speaker 5 You got to get a shipping container.

Speaker 3 Emma, how was that hurricane?

Speaker 9 It was really, really good.

Speaker 1 I agree. I think I would choose that over a blizzard.

Speaker 2 I bet you're just getting better toppings.

Speaker 6 Yeah, well, I got it.

Speaker 1 So I got it with strawberries, which I think based on the history was fresh strawberry.

Speaker 1 And it tasted like fresh strawberries, and I love that texture of like a blended strawberry and ice cream.

Speaker 9 It was really good, yeah.

Speaker 5 I definitely want to go try some of their more fruity options when I go

Speaker 5 back next time.

Speaker 3 Again, those were the standouts for me. Is there any flavors we missed? I know Amelia got some as well.

Speaker 2 She'll be back shortly. She got

Speaker 2 mint chocolate chip, green tea.

Speaker 5 That was a solid mint chocolate chip, a solid green tea. I know

Speaker 2 we'll get her as well.

Speaker 5 The interesting one I sampled that I thought was a unique flavor was a French silk pie.

Speaker 2 Oh, just chocolate butterfudge ice cream with graham crapple ripple and chips.

Speaker 5 Kind of reminded me of like the Burger King pie you can get. And then the other one I remember now that Amelia got, this is, I pointed out problematic, but it's called chalkaholic chunk.

Speaker 3 Yeah, chocolate chunk.

Speaker 5 So, so it is positive because it's representing chunks, but chalkaholism is a serious thing.

Speaker 2 No, it's not a junk.

Speaker 2 You know what I mean?

Speaker 5 Call, and hey, hey, I know we're joking around here, but if anybody listening here is dealing with chalkism or someone in your life is dealing with chalkaholism, just call 1-800-GAMBLER

Speaker 2 and someone will help you. Wags was a chocolate for a while.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 Now he's just addicted to sports betting.

Speaker 5 Use code Doughboy on DraftKings.

Speaker 2 Get your first three parlays for free. It was bad.
When you were at your worst, when you were at your chocolate worst, it was pretty bad.

Speaker 3 It was pretty bad.

Speaker 2 You'd come in here, you'd offer to suck my dick for chocolate. I was like, dude, don't.
That's no big deal. I can get, there's just chocolate in the middle.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah. And then you eat the chocolate, you'd be like, I'm still down.
I'm like, what are you talking about?

Speaker 2 Hey. And I was like, all right.

Speaker 5 And then we go in the salted caramel.

Speaker 2 I'm going to go to the dark less echoey bathroom. That's why I think it's true.
It's making a whole scene in there.

Speaker 2 We go in, and Vlags and I go in the bathroom together, and then all of a sudden you hear

Speaker 2 it's embarrassing.

Speaker 2 And then you hear me go, oh, Joe.

Speaker 2 We have to get to our final thoughts. We have to get to our final thoughts.

Speaker 9 I like Amelia coming in, having no context, and then you guys just going, oh, Joe.

Speaker 2 Oh, Joe. Oh, Joe.

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Speaker 3 Anise,

Speaker 3 how the pod guest works, we're each going to go around. We're going to give our final thoughts on the particular chain that we're discussing, Handles.

Speaker 2 Amelia's last flavor was brownie dough.

Speaker 3 And give it a score from zero to five forks. You are our guest.
We'll begin with you. Your thoughts, your fork score for handles.

Speaker 2 Handles creamery.

Speaker 5 I thought this was my first experience with it. I was impressed.
I like the branding, the service, like I said, a style of kind of a more classic traditional traditional American ice cream.

Speaker 5 I thought it had a good variety of flavors. And I feel like I'll go back again.
I'm going to drop four forks.

Speaker 2 Four forks. Very good score.
Four forks. Good score.

Speaker 3 What do you think, Spoonman?

Speaker 2 So, this is the last thing I was going to talk about here.

Speaker 5 You've been holding this out for a couple of hours.

Speaker 2 A couple of hours. This take.

Speaker 2 When I tried like the dark chocolate, the richer chocolates, I thought they were really good. Yeah.
I thought

Speaker 2 Midnight Madness.

Speaker 2 I thought some of the lighter chocolates tasted a little bit more artificially kind of

Speaker 2 not as good to me. I was surprised that I did not like their brownie dough that much.
It felt just kind of like a weaker, maybe it's the cookie dough.

Speaker 5 It's ironic because you did like the actual brownie that was under the dough.

Speaker 2 I liked the brownie that was under the thing, but I'm saying that there was like something like not saccharine, but there was just something that was like kind of like sweet, chemically, cheap tasting with some of the aspaten.

Speaker 2 That being said,

Speaker 2 the orange cream dream is fantastic. There's a lot of of great flaccid flaccid.
There's a lot of great classic flavors, but

Speaker 2 when you get flaccid, oh, doe.

Speaker 2 There's a lot of great classic flavors, but it happens to every guy.

Speaker 2 I know that. It does, because women always reassure me that it does happen to every guy.

Speaker 2 When it comes to the classic stuff, I think it's really... I think that they do a really, really good job.
I like the vibe of the place.

Speaker 2 If they had nailed a couple of those other flavors, I probably would go five forks.

Speaker 5 It was leaning five for me after day one, but second time, I kind of came down to earth.

Speaker 2 Four and a half spoons.

Speaker 3 Four and a half spoons, very good score.

Speaker 3 You know, it's Mitch Appreciation Day here on the Dough Boys podcast.

Speaker 3 And also, this was not planned, but I think it's becoming Handles Appreciation Day because I have love handles that we all love to have.

Speaker 3 He's a chunk.

Speaker 2 We love him. What the fuck?

Speaker 2 This is it. What the fuck? We love to handle your love kids.
We need to get a hug. I got him, too.
Hey, go on.

Speaker 3 Let He who's without sin cast the first stone.

Speaker 3 Let He who is without love handles cast the first stone. Well said.

Speaker 3 So anyway.

Speaker 3 A number of flavors is daunting. There's a lot of them, but I think the flavors were all good.
And every single one I had, I enjoyed. Some of them I thought were stellar.
And I love ice cream.

Speaker 3 I'm a creamsman. I'm a dairy dude.
Ice cream is my favorite dessert. If I could only have one dessert, it would be ice cream.

Speaker 3 I think this is a great parlor that both operates in the world of classic creamery and the modern, more contemporary world of experimentation and riffing on the flavors we know and love.

Speaker 3 And I think for that reason,

Speaker 2 I'm not going below five forks for handles.

Speaker 3 This is a five-fork experience as far as I'm concerned.

Speaker 2 Four and a half, five. We got the last four.

Speaker 5 I didn't actually know you could do half things.

Speaker 2 So I'm going to

Speaker 2 read you to four and a half. You're going four and a half.
You're direct coming to four and a half. We're in the hand holding.
What do we used to call that? What was the ladder thing we used to say?

Speaker 2 I think it was the ladder. Stepping.

Speaker 2 Stepping. Stair step guys.
I don't know.

Speaker 3 We have ballpark buds, which were also ballpark buds.

Speaker 2 We're ballpark.

Speaker 3 But most crucially, handles is in the golden plate club.

Speaker 2 Welcome to the golden plate club, handles. Make yourself a bad guy.
Well deserved. Well deserved.
New kid on the block.

Speaker 3 I was just,

Speaker 2 I was going in here with an open mind.

Speaker 3 I wasn't sure what to expect, and this place exceeded my expectations. I thought it was

Speaker 5 a welcome addition to the Southern California ice cream. One

Speaker 2 it's a new kid on the block, but very old, very old spot. Shout out to Oppy.
I think that we can walk away wise. Shout out to Oppy.
Yeah, shout out to Oppy. Shout out to Oppy.

Speaker 2 I think that we can walk away. I call him Robert Jay.

Speaker 5 That's my guy.

Speaker 2 I think that we played by Robert. Oh, no, it wasn't played by Robert Downey Jr.
I was going to say played by Robert Downey, but it's not. No, he played the Gother guy in that movie.

Speaker 2 I think we can both walk away from this saying,

Speaker 2 oh

Speaker 2 oh

Speaker 2 i just like the idea of people listening to this and you know they're like they're in their cue like you know their cubicle or something it's like if the mic gets on you know if their headphones get unplugged is like uh like us making those noises i've i've i've had a doughboys pop out clip on my phone while i'm walking too loud

Speaker 2 wow i think it happens to a lot of people the podcast is horrible and uh people shouldn't listen to it but then you just hear someone go like yeah i just shoved a bunch of cookies down my throat like I was sucking a cock.

Speaker 5 I'm like, That's my friend.

Speaker 2 Don't worry.

Speaker 2 My good friend. It's not a stranger saying that.
And I talk to and spend time with.

Speaker 3 It's crazy that when Oppenheimer, you know, witnessed the carnage that was the result of his invention being, you know, foisted upon the world, he was said to have uttered,

Speaker 3 I have become death, destroyer of worlds.

Speaker 2 Oh,

Speaker 2 dough.

Speaker 2 Who's still horny? Yeah.

Speaker 2 I mean, he was very horny. That's a a big horny.

Speaker 2 He's horny. He's horny.
He's horny.

Speaker 5 I love to fuck. He definitely did a couple Odo's.

Speaker 3 Hey, it's time for a segment. Wow,

Speaker 3 what a great experience at Handles.

Speaker 2 I love you.

Speaker 5 Shout out to Handles.

Speaker 3 We've got a food stuff we're going to decide if you should put it in your mouth. It's Snack or Whack.
And hey, shout out to Amelia, who is walking in. These Shackalicious XL Gummies.

Speaker 2 Yes. Can I get a rebranding on it for today? Please.
Shack or whack. Shack or whack it is.
Shack or whack it is.

Speaker 5 Are we, guys? Guys, question for the hosts.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Are we Shack and a Fool? I think we're Shack and Fool.
We might be Shack and a Fool.

Speaker 5 We're shacked a fool. I think that's an intellectual property of Turner Media.
Yeah. Shout out Turner Media, Atlanta Zone.

Speaker 3 Hit me up.

Speaker 2 What is Turner Media? What are they going to hit you up with?

Speaker 5 I don't know. Maybe like invite me to inside.
Can I tell you a chain-related story really quick? Please. The best birthday I've ever had was my 22nd birthday in Atlanta.

Speaker 5 I went to the Cheesecake Factory

Speaker 5 on Peachtree in Buckhead with my girlfriend at the time for dinner. I was sitting there having Cheesecake Factory.
I got a chicken and biscuits. I got an Oreo cheesecake, two of my favorite things.

Speaker 5 And in the middle of my dinner, the entire cast of Inside the NBA walked in.

Speaker 5 I'm talking Kenny the Jet Smith. I'm talking Charles, Sir Charles Barkley.
I'm talking EJ, Ernie, and of course, Big Shaq Diesel.

Speaker 2 They all walked in.

Speaker 5 They sat down. They were kind of in a private area, but they're massive.

Speaker 2 So their heads shoved above the chairs.

Speaker 5 And then they sat down and immediately just plates of food. Plates of food just started rushing to the table.
Best birthday ever.

Speaker 2 There's no leftovers with those guys.

Speaker 2 Even at Cheesecake Factory, no, it was not Cheesecake.

Speaker 5 NBA players love Cheesecake.

Speaker 3 Was it just the four of them?

Speaker 5 I think they had like a bro or two.

Speaker 2 A couple of hangers on it.

Speaker 5 Maybe Underdog was there. Wow.
For the real inside the NBA heads.

Speaker 3 That's cooler than any celebrity setting ever. I know, no.
I've seen Arnold Schwarzenegger, and that's better.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 You're a young man because Shaq was there on your 20. He was part of the NBA crew in the 2010s.
Yeah, his second birthday. Yeah, yeah.
That's a young man.

Speaker 3 You remember there was that period where people were like, hmm, I don't know if Shaq's fitting in. And now, of course, he's an essential part of the crew.

Speaker 2 But you know, you got to see that.

Speaker 2 I mean, Barkley is my favorite.

Speaker 5 When Shack fell down, when Shack fell on the Christmas tree, that was one, two moments in my life I was blessed to be watching a live television broadcast. The Oscars Moonlight.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 5 I had stopped watching the Oscars, went to In-N-Out, came back. I was like, I'll watch the end.
Saw that live.

Speaker 5 I, for whatever reason, immediately knew what was happening because when the guy came and whispered, I was like, oh, this is like if it was a pro wrestling story and they fucked up the award.

Speaker 5 And then, of course, Sack falling over a Christmas tree, one of the all-time great.

Speaker 2 A great moment. Two great moments.
I met

Speaker 2 Shaq and Lack.

Speaker 3 I met the La La Land producer who said, We lost, by the way. I met him on the WJ Picket Lines.

Speaker 2 Oh, very cool. Yeah, yeah.
He's like, I don't like talking about it.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 you know who was 10 feet away from all that? Our good buddy Jack Allison. Oh, wow.

Speaker 3 That's right.

Speaker 2 He was writing for it. Yep.

Speaker 3 Okay, the Shaq-Alicious XL Gummies. Shaqalicious XL Gummies bring Shaquille O'Neal's big personality to life in each tasty bite.
Amelia, thank you for picking these up.

Speaker 3 I know you had to make a couple of trips.

Speaker 3 While we're cracking into these bad boys,

Speaker 3 what were your thoughts on handles?

Speaker 2 Yeah, like

Speaker 2 this. I'm so sorry.
I went to a couple grocery stores,

Speaker 8 but we got the goods.

Speaker 2 Yeah, because one of them was sour.

Speaker 8 Yeah, they were sold out of the non-sour, so I had to make another trip. I really enjoyed handles.

Speaker 2 Handels? Handles. Handles.
I think it's handle.

Speaker 5 Actually, you should have gotten a guy from Veep Veep on the show, and you could have had handels with Dave Mandels.

Speaker 3 That would have been fun. I think it's more fun to have you, though.

Speaker 5 I would rather be Dave Mandel, the guy who worked on Seinfeld and has a lot of money.

Speaker 5 My shows were on streaming. I didn't get residuals.

Speaker 8 I got the four scoop sampler. Yeah.

Speaker 8 Was really impressed with every flavor.

Speaker 8 The mint chocolate chip had that thing that you were just talking about, Mitch, where there is some sort of aspartame-ness to it, but it was very slight and it didn't ruin it for me.

Speaker 2 Green tea,

Speaker 8 one of the better green tea ice creams I've ever had.

Speaker 2 Wow. Yeah.
Wow.

Speaker 3 Usong would be in Hog Heaven.

Speaker 6 Yeah, he would.

Speaker 2 Rest in Power. Rest in Power Usong, the ghost of Usong.
That dude died.

Speaker 8 If you had my rating, I would probably give it five stars.

Speaker 2 Five stars? Five stars. Five stars.
Five stars. Fuck, I keep doing that.

Speaker 2 I've worked on our podcast for years. You still don't know the show.
It's great.

Speaker 5 Amelia, I'm going to need you to take your things and also return the cat today.

Speaker 2 No, no, no, she can stay.

Speaker 3 So these are, these are, these are big gummies. These are, these some bitches are huge.

Speaker 2 Also, these are, I want to say this. Do you know like when they make a statue of someone, like, it's a really bad statue? That's what Shaq's face looks like on each of the

Speaker 5 at the unveiling, the unveiling of Shaq's statue at previously discussed crypto.com.

Speaker 2 Wow.

Speaker 5 Which was super sick because they like had a whole festival, like at a carnival outside the arena. It was called like Shaq Fest, and they had all his trophies and shit out there.

Speaker 3 But yeah, there's two SKUs here.

Speaker 5 There's this one that looks like his head.

Speaker 5 And then if you can read the back of this one, Mitch, there's three different shapes.

Speaker 2 Diesel, which is a truck.

Speaker 5 They call him Shaq Diesel.

Speaker 2 The big cactus, like Shaq, Shaktis. And then the big Shamrock, which he was his Celtic, his Celtic role.

Speaker 2 Which I think he even makes, he even gives a hard time to his time in the Celtics. This is very funny, Brenning.
Here's my thing with the main gummies.

Speaker 2 They're almost the consistency is almost like Swedish fish instead of a gummy. They are.
One is

Speaker 5 the heads are like Swedish fish, and then the other ones are kind of a SPK Star Patch Kid.

Speaker 3 I wonder if to get to the size and form factor, if they have to alter the texture a little bit to keep them to hold it, have them hold together.

Speaker 2 I have no idea. I don't think that's true.

Speaker 6 Orange gelatin or something.

Speaker 2 I don't know. No, you can get

Speaker 2 big gummies.

Speaker 5 The head shape is closer to a Swedish fish than.

Speaker 2 Oh, God, this is

Speaker 2 an old sugar day so far. I'm going to feel fucking like shit.
I will say, I mean, a couple of things.

Speaker 5 One, you know, Shaq does have fun with branding. I mean, he had his, like, Shaq tees for a while.

Speaker 3 Yeah, Shaq's big chicken, which we're

Speaker 3 Papa John's partnership, obviously.

Speaker 5 Yeah, he's the president of Papa John's. I actually like the Shaqaroni pizza.
It's just kind of like a loaded pepperoni pizza, but it's like a good price, fun scale.

Speaker 5 These are solid. This one just tastes like a regular Swedish fish.
And I would say the Sour Patch Kid one, I like this berry, and it has a pretty good sour, like not too much, not too little.

Speaker 2 My fucking teeth. I just got them cleaned.

Speaker 2 This is bad.

Speaker 1 I've got my headphones on, and I can hear the like

Speaker 5 smacking. What's up with sour? Is this just micro plastics?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I don't know. I don't feel like any of this is good for anybody.

Speaker 3 Jimmy, you definitely do not want this.

Speaker 2 I absolutely cannot have that.

Speaker 3 There's no situation in which you'll enjoy this.

Speaker 2 I disagree with you. I don't think these are good.

Speaker 5 I didn't say, I said they're fine.

Speaker 2 Oh, fuck.

Speaker 2 They're sour as fuck. They're really sour, which I like.

Speaker 5 Also, I'm struggling to, for both of them, I'm kind of struggling to get through one. I know we had ice cream earlier, but I've tried one of each one.

Speaker 2 That's my issue.

Speaker 3 I think they're too big. I understand the Shaq XL gummies branding.
Obviously, Shaq is a large man.

Speaker 5 Maybe it's just not for us.

Speaker 3 I think this is a thing. I don't know.
I don't know if the large gummies makes

Speaker 2 it.

Speaker 5 I need a sour candy the size of a small child, not of a seven-foot basketball candy.

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 2 Look, I'm on the record.

Speaker 3 I'm a gummy skeptic. I say gummy ain't yummy.
I'm still coming into these with an open mind.

Speaker 2 I'm a gummy. I love gummy.
You love gummy.

Speaker 2 I'm a gummy dabbler. I dabble with gummy.

Speaker 2 These are just

Speaker 2 these are.

Speaker 9 Gemini.

Speaker 2 Why does Gemmy want these so bad? She wants the shack gummies more than she's wanting anything on the show ever.

Speaker 7 Our ones that she got excited for.

Speaker 2 I'm not sure.

Speaker 2 Besides like, maybe it looked like dog treats or something.

Speaker 5 If I had like shit, some kind of party for like the

Speaker 5 basketball event, like maybe I'd get some shad gummies and throw them out.

Speaker 2 But otherwise, I'm not really going back. I don't really, you know, a problem I have

Speaker 5 is that

Speaker 5 I have insomnia and anxiety and other things that I manage with. gummy medication.
Okay. So I take like a gummy, like basically like a sour gummy candy every night before bed.

Speaker 2 So it's like I'm already already eating that one gummy i'm not really trying to like eat gummies on my free time yeah no i got some insomnia issues i'm using my cpap again wages and i watched but you know what i got trapped last night that chunk pap

Speaker 2 i was uh a full metal jacket was on oh man all timer yeah so i watched some you know speaking of chunk kings yeah private pile pile private pile the the fat guy and that is my goal weight

Speaker 3 it's crazy how like what the what the the standards for a fat person have become.

Speaker 2 So much so that you watch and you're like, how wasn't he? He was doing pretty well.

Speaker 2 I mean, he just broke mentally. But also, do you know, do you know the theory that private pile is just like one part of it? It's like Joker's childhood.
Have you heard of this theory? What?

Speaker 2 That private pile is like the death of Joker's Joker's

Speaker 2 childhood.

Speaker 2 Does Private Pile even exist? That's the question. Interesting.

Speaker 2 Which, you know. It's another podcast.
I would definitely blow my head out. Shaq even really here? Does Shaq even exist?

Speaker 5 Was Susser really with me?

Speaker 2 Was Susser really there, or did you eat a lot more ice cream than you thought?

Speaker 3 Mitch, you talked about your CPAP mask, just while we're talking about this, because I have an article from 2015 of the top 50 Shaq endorsements. So the list has grown.

Speaker 2 The general's got to be in there.

Speaker 3 The general's definitely in here. But, you know, kind of a Krusty the Clown type figure.
We'll put his name onto anything. I have gummy in my beard.
This is awful.

Speaker 2 I was fucking my teeth. If you went to boot camp, would you private pile yourself? you would yeah day one um

Speaker 2 the uh

Speaker 3 shaq's uh shaq has a cpac mask the shaq sleep apnea mask

Speaker 2 you got it that's pretty good

Speaker 2 i wonder i wonder if it's comfy if it's comfy i'll get one for you would think it may be for a bigger guy um what else he's got a sugar substitute uh shirts yeah the shoes you can get at walmart what is his sugar what is his sugar substitute it's like stevia

Speaker 3 radio shack Soup Man, Zales, Soda Shack.

Speaker 2 I forgot.

Speaker 5 Soda Shack was the iced teas.

Speaker 2 They were pretty popular. I didn't mind Soda Shack.
We didn't like big chicken.

Speaker 5 I like the name.

Speaker 3 I like the name. I don't think

Speaker 3 it's a good chain.

Speaker 5 Here's the thing. I mean, it's kind of on the way out now.
They closed the one down here.

Speaker 2 The big shamrock was my favorite of all the gummies. The regular gummies, too much like Swedish fish.
I like Swedish fish, but I just think the regular gummies were not great.

Speaker 1 It's like you put five Swedish fish in your mouth at once, though.

Speaker 2 Yeah. So, like, your snack.
I would give it maybe a slight whack or maybe the slightest snack, but I think I'm going to go slight whack. The sours were better, but still close to a slight whack.

Speaker 2 Slight snack, maybe. I'm just going to go.

Speaker 5 I'm going to go slight snack just because I do like the idea that they're bigger gummies, at least has a gimmick.

Speaker 2 They're kind of fun. That is fun.

Speaker 5 They didn't taste astringently bad.

Speaker 2 And the best tasting one? The big shamrock wags.

Speaker 5 Did you have one? My favorite was the shamrock.

Speaker 2 Yeah. The shamrock.
It kind of was sour apple. I liked it.
Yeah, yeah. I think it was watermelon.

Speaker 5 Watermelon, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 The

Speaker 3 Shaq obviously had the video game Shaq Fu, his Taco Bell endorsements, his Pepsi endorsements, Icy Hot.

Speaker 3 And Reebok was a big one back in the day.

Speaker 3 I love Shaq.

Speaker 2 Let's get Mitch some Icy Hot.

Speaker 2 I love Icy Hot.

Speaker 5 Hey, this is Mitch Appreciation Week. Let's get Mitch some Icy Hot.
His back must hurt from carrying this podcast. Mitch.

Speaker 2 I like that a lot.

Speaker 2 From carrying that fucking huge

Speaker 10 listener.

Speaker 2 Well, it's much appreciation day. He's got a big it's not lie to Mitch Day.

Speaker 2 You know I had to say untruth. You got a permit for that thing? Jeez.

Speaker 2 Beep, beep, beep. That's backing it up.

Speaker 2 Very small beeps. I was trying to do.

Speaker 5 They see Mitch's hog and go,

Speaker 2 oh.

Speaker 3 I love Shaq. Shaq is one of my favorite athletes, great media personality.
I love that he has fully embraced who he is.

Speaker 3 I even kind of love the kind of carny aspect of like he just has

Speaker 3 it.

Speaker 2 He owns it.

Speaker 3 He owns it.

Speaker 3 But all that said, like with our big chicken review, I am not afraid to hold him to account when it is necessary. And I think this is a case where I understand the branding.

Speaker 3 I do not think these are good gummies. I would go a mild whack.
It's with a heavy heart that I give these a whack.

Speaker 2 We love Shaq. We want it to be good.

Speaker 5 We're all pretty similar. We're all in this zone.
This is the snack and whack

Speaker 5 chasm.

Speaker 2 We're right here. We're all right here.

Speaker 3 We're in the same sort of standard.

Speaker 2 It's mid. It's mid.

Speaker 2 It took Shaq a minute to fit in on inside of them. It's true, it did.
Yeah, it took him a minute. I mean, it took you a couple of years to fit in on this podcast.

Speaker 2 That's not wrong. I think it took a couple years for both of us to fit in on this podcast.

Speaker 3 What are we thinking over at the producer's desk? Any takes on these big gummies new and try them?

Speaker 7 I think I like the sour ones better than the plain ones.

Speaker 2 That's

Speaker 5 definitely.

Speaker 7 but I don't think I'll ever buy them.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Amelia, how does it feel now tasting these gummies that were a pain in the ass to get?

Speaker 2 I didn't.

Speaker 3 Do you not like gummy?

Speaker 8 Not really. Well, I'm somewhere in between gummy and yummy and I dabble.
Yeah, sure. I just didn't feel like eating this after eating ice cream.

Speaker 2 That's also

Speaker 2 the ice cream is on top of it, but still, it's been a couple of times.

Speaker 6 The ice cream was like good sugar that felt like worth it.

Speaker 1 This feels not worth worth the calories.

Speaker 2 You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 I don't love this lingering taste in my mouth.

Speaker 2 Amelia, you don't like

Speaker 5 my Stanley.

Speaker 2 Correct. Amelia doesn't like soda, which was honestly as

Speaker 2 our relationship suffered a bit because, yes, how can you not like an ice-cold? Ice cold Coke?

Speaker 2 Not really. McDonald's Sprite?

Speaker 2 No. It's not had it.

Speaker 5 Have you ever had cheer wine? It's a cherry soda pine.

Speaker 2 You never had McDonald's Sprite.

Speaker 8 Never had McDonald's Sprite.

Speaker 5 It's a little bit the fizz.

Speaker 3 It's a little bit the fizz, but it's also the sweetness you find overpowering.

Speaker 3 you just don't like liquid calories you don't like sugary drinks it's it's too sweet what do you do you have a cocktail what do you like to drink or something alcohol mojito a mojito that's fine

Speaker 5 man i got a soda you'd like probably like mojito show me show me

Speaker 5 what is it it's like a dr pepper uh not dr pepper lime i think yeah i think it's like a dr pepper with lime twist Wow interesting.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 5 It's like with a vanilla lime twist or something.

Speaker 2 I'm a little disappointed about it.

Speaker 2 We never got into this. Actually, we'll talk about it on the live.
I still feel like I have fucking gummies. You're fine.

Speaker 3 Just like a restaurant value feedback, let's up to the feedback. Today's email is from Diana.
Diana writes, I worked at a bowling alley in Philly for eight years.

Speaker 2 In one of our leagues,

Speaker 3 a bowler was widely known for being the creator of the Chaco Taco.

Speaker 2 Wow.

Speaker 3 Whether it be myth or fact, we love that this bowler used a snack stardom to ask for an extra turkey shot or two whenever he bowled three strikes in a row.

Speaker 3 My question is: if you could go down in history as being the famed creator of any food, what food would that be? Second question: who amongst the Dough crew do you think is the best bowler?

Speaker 3 Now, this, I think, we have an answer to because Casey, you're a bit of a lanesman. Is that correct?

Speaker 2 I don't know what you're talking about. Do you want to leak?

Speaker 2 You roll eek? Case,

Speaker 2 you're not a roller? I think you're a big time roller. I've never talked bowling and you roll.
No, I don't. You don't roll eek.
Okay.

Speaker 2 Also, I kicked your ass, bowl.

Speaker 3 I know, I know you beat me. I would say, like, of us, it's you.
I called you pure power because you were just bowling strikes.

Speaker 2 i'm loving that name hey that's the real hurricane mitch on them lane pure power is great yeah pure power here's my question you he you he would get it you're not a bowl i thought you were a big-time bowler

Speaker 2 no

Speaker 2 i've been telling people casey's a great bowler

Speaker 2 guessing i bowled but no i don't what about me who you bowled with i don't know what i know but

Speaker 2 i feel like we had like yes but you also you like me were just kind of like i haven't leaned a while you kind of stepped i thought you were nuts and then i just had like a flash memory of casey talking about getting his own bowling ball ball, but it must have been someone else.

Speaker 2 Yeah, wait, what do you don't? Why do we share this? You don't do league. It was in any bowling.

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 7 You're not. Was it Alan when we did Bolero?

Speaker 3 No, it wasn't Alan.

Speaker 2 You went right back to the ball. Oh, Casey's a good bowler.

Speaker 2 He's just lying.

Speaker 2 I kind of think you might have figured it out. I might have.
Maybe it was.

Speaker 2 He likes to do that. He likes it to say shit.

Speaker 2 My question to you is: an extra shot when you get a turkey, which

Speaker 2 when you get a turkey and it's a fine.

Speaker 5 That's not like a shot of wild turkey, the bourbon.

Speaker 3 No, I believe it's like.

Speaker 3 But I think that doesn't.

Speaker 5 So is he like being like, guys, you mind if I run it back?

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, that's it. I think it's got to be it.
You get an extra shot or two.

Speaker 1 Is it like he's so on fire he doesn't want to stop? Because

Speaker 2 isn't a turkey three strikes? Three in a row.

Speaker 1 And maybe he's just like, I want to throw another one because it feels so good.

Speaker 3 I think what it is, is I think actually what I'm reading between the line, I think he is

Speaker 3 he is saying that he.

Speaker 2 Wait, hold on.

Speaker 3 What is that? What the fuck does this mean? I can't parse this. Let me read this.

Speaker 3 Diana, we love that this bowler used his snack stardom to ask for an extra turkey shot or two whenever he bowled three strikes in a row.

Speaker 2 Three strikes is a turkey. Three strikes already is a turkey.

Speaker 3 So I thought he was going to get a mulligan. He was getting another attempt at getting a turkey.

Speaker 2 That's what it means. Okay.
Or how I interpret it.

Speaker 1 Or he's just like showing off like real hard.

Speaker 2 I just want to make the turkey noise when you get a turkey. That's all I can do.
Chaco Taco was a great idea.

Speaker 3 Chaco Taco is a great idea.

Speaker 2 But also being the creator of the Big Mac.

Speaker 3 Well, this is

Speaker 2 damn, bro. Wants to be the founder over here.
I mean,

Speaker 2 the founder did not create the Big Mac, just so you know. He didn't create McDonald's either.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 I, I, uh, the big Big Mac or Cool Ranch Doritos. Oh, man.
You know what? I died. Coca-Cola.

Speaker 5 I don't think I ever told you that my Coca-Cola is pretty good.

Speaker 3 My alpha brother Nate went to college with

Speaker 3 his friend, his mom.

Speaker 3 My brother's friend's, college friend's mom, was a marketing person at Frito A who came up with Cool Ranch.

Speaker 2 The phrase not the flavor, but the phrase

Speaker 2 her movie. I know.
I guess Flamin' Hot. If Flaming Hot lit up, there'd be a movie about that lady.
Cool Ranch, that is so pretty. Cool Ranch is pretty sick.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I think my answer is Coke, the best beverage.

Speaker 5 What about that becomes a, what if that becomes a monkey's paw, and you say that, and then you're a chemist in the 1800s.

Speaker 2 Oh, man. Working in a pharmacy.

Speaker 2 Am I as smart as the...

Speaker 2 I'm wondering, there's a lot of things that go into this, but there'd be no air conditioning, so I'm done.

Speaker 5 I wouldn't time travel.

Speaker 2 If I time traveled back to before AC, I would stay in the DeLorean where there was AC. I wouldn't, I wouldn't, no AC would suck.

Speaker 5 AC's pretty recent, bro.

Speaker 2 I know.

Speaker 3 Old West, it was because they didn't have a refrigeration either, so it was like, there was no AC, so it was hot as shit.

Speaker 2 They were drinking like room temp beer.

Speaker 5 It's like, oh, it just smelled them back.

Speaker 2 It smelled so bad. It smelled like shit.
I don't want to go back in time. Doc Brown's a fucking idiot.

Speaker 3 Okay, so the question was.

Speaker 5 Stay fried chicken, though.

Speaker 2 He does have a good fried chicken.

Speaker 3 If you go down in history as being the fame creator of any food, what food would that be? Now, look, I have created a food, the Nick Weiger.

Speaker 3 It's a perfected Arnold Palmer. But if it's going to be something that...

Speaker 5 Well, we're also, I just want not to be.

Speaker 5 Those are beverages. You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 That's true. That's true.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 You have to go to food. Coke would be my answer because I'm just like,

Speaker 2 the best beverage to me is Coke.

Speaker 3 Here's the thing I was going to say. I like a thing like a Caesar salad, like not like the star, not like a thing everyone thinks about, but everyone's like, oh, yeah, I like a Caesar salad.

Speaker 3 And if you were the guy who made the Caesar salad, who was, I believe, a guy named Caesar, like that's kind of Mexico.

Speaker 2 It's crazy.

Speaker 3 Yeah, that's like, that's like kind of a fun

Speaker 2 cigar.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 3 So I'm trying to think of something on that.

Speaker 2 You guys are trying to steal that, but that's fine. What are you talking about? You're trying to steal it from the guy in Mexico.

Speaker 7 I know a white guy trying to steal it.

Speaker 5 Steal the idea from a Mexican.

Speaker 3 This is not cultural appropriation.

Speaker 2 It is.

Speaker 3 I was using it as an example of the kind of food that I would be looking at.

Speaker 2 All right, well, guess what? I'll tell you some fun cultural appropriation. I'm stealing pizza from the Italians.
Eat shit, Italians. It's mine now.
Mama Mamia.

Speaker 2 That's right. I got pizza.
That's what I would take. Come on.
Pizza is good. Pizza is a good one.

Speaker 1 What if you're like the first person who ever fried chicken?

Speaker 2 That's really good.

Speaker 5 That's so sober. It's like that happened across like so many

Speaker 2 crimes.

Speaker 5 Here's a specific one that would just be fun.

Speaker 2 What if I invented waffle fries? I love that.

Speaker 2 That's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 5 I like that it's something that existed and I was like, how do we make this better?

Speaker 2 wallet fries are fun.

Speaker 5 Sandwich, that's choco taco. It's like ice cream was good, but it's like, how do we make this more fun and interesting?

Speaker 3 Yeah, that's that's a blast.

Speaker 2 Here's my back to the boys. Papa Mia, we say from here on out.
Here's a

Speaker 2 Papamia. We're giving it back to the boys.

Speaker 2 We're taking it back for the boys. Papa Mia instead of Mama Mia is what we're saying.
Oh, for the fellas. Yeah, we're doing it for the fellas now.

Speaker 5 Go ahead, Wallace. Men's rights.
Papa Mia.

Speaker 2 No, not men's rights.

Speaker 2 Wait, I thought that's why you wanted to take the

Speaker 2 we're black pilled. Papa Mia.

Speaker 3 I have an answer. And my answer is, along the lines of waffle fries, something that I just think is fun and something that's fun to be like, hey, you're the guy who made that?

Speaker 2 The Bread Bowl. Super Bread Bowl.

Speaker 3 How fun is a Bread Bowl?

Speaker 5 You know what? Another one, I wouldn't pick this, but just throw. If you were the guy, I would love to meet the guy who made the Crunch Wrap Supreme.

Speaker 2 Yeah, wow. You know what? He just inspired me.
Cheesy Gordita Crunch. There we go.
That's good. That's a good one.
That's a good one. Cheesy Gordita Crunch is my answer.

Speaker 5 Game Changers.

Speaker 2 Anyone Anyone over the fried game changers? And there would be AC when it was created, so I'd be okay.

Speaker 3 Anyone over at the producer's desk

Speaker 3 got a food they wish they could put their name on, they could claim as their own.

Speaker 1 I mean, I just learned recently that chicken tenders originated in Manchester, New Hampshire, not far from where I'm from. So maybe instead of fried chicken, I'll take chicken tenders.

Speaker 3 Yeah, ticking tendies is good because that's like a you know, a specific.

Speaker 2 I like that.

Speaker 2 Amelia, would you choose Shaq Gummies? I was actually going to say Shaq Gummies.

Speaker 2 What

Speaker 2 they were Shaq's head?

Speaker 2 What'd she say? That's in the movie, a hard cut to a guy in a suit. What'd she say?

Speaker 2 She's white?

Speaker 2 Oh, she's white.

Speaker 5 Dang, that's a real good idea for gummies.

Speaker 2 She's white.

Speaker 2 She's what?

Speaker 3 If you have a question or comment about the world of chain restaurants, you can email us at feedback at birdfuck.com or leave us a voicemail at 830GoTo. That's 830-463-6844.

Speaker 3 And hey, to get the Dough Boys Double Our Weekly Bonus Episode, plus our entire pre-2018 back catalog, subscribe at patreon.com slash Dough Boys.

Speaker 3 Our producers, Emma Erdbrink, our associate producers, Amelia Marino, our engineers, Casey Donahue. Our video editor is Mike Dorfman.
Our guest, Anise Adamansari. Thanks so much for joining us.

Speaker 3 What a hoot.

Speaker 2 Thanks, guys. What was this?

Speaker 5 Thanks, guys. Happy to get scoops.

Speaker 2 Great spot. Good spot.

Speaker 5 Happy to get scoops with the guys.

Speaker 2 It's going to go wild this summer. It's going to be popping off this summer.

Speaker 5 You heard her here first.

Speaker 3 Anise later in 2025. Good fortune is released.
Yes.

Speaker 5 Our feature film, Good Fortune, is coming out next October. Please go see it.

Speaker 2 This October.

Speaker 2 Oh, yes, your jump. Your jump.

Speaker 5 This year, mark it on your calendars. 10, 17, 25.
Wow.

Speaker 2 Good fortune in theaters.

Speaker 5 It's an epic comedy. It's got Seth Rogan.
It's got Keanu Reeves.

Speaker 2 Wow. It's.

Speaker 2 I'm very happy. Comedies are bad.
Comedies are found.

Speaker 5 I mean, one thing, me and Mitch, I talk to Mitch a lot, and one thing Mitch is always saying is, where's the comedies?

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Where's the comedies and triggers? He was fucking saying it last week. That's true.
And I'm trying, Mitch.

Speaker 2 Thank you. I appreciate you trying.
Also, you know what?

Speaker 2 It's a birthday movie for me, just 11 days after my birthday. Maybe I'll see it on the other side.
Yeah, we've been out of theater. I love it.
I might. I just might.

Speaker 3 I need to think so.

Speaker 2 Anything else you want to plug?

Speaker 5 Loot seasons one and two are streaming on Apple TV Plus. I think it's like $4.99 to get Apple TV Plus.
I have a lot of friends in my life who are like, I don't have Apple TV. Just pay it, man.

Speaker 5 Watch that show. I think there's a Godzilla show on there.
Season three is on the way. Thank you.

Speaker 3 There you go.

Speaker 2 And also, I'm just going to plug the Reddit. The Reddit is good now.
Uh, that about does it for the season.

Speaker 3 You know what? I want to see a Mitch appreciation thread on the Mitch appreciation day. Mitch Appreciation Days thread on the Reddit, purely wholesome, purely positive.

Speaker 2 That thread is going to become a nightmare.

Speaker 2 They're going to fight with each other like never before.

Speaker 5 And then, honestly, go to Handles, get a scoop, and tell Mitch send you.

Speaker 2 There you go. I like that.
And hey, there's only one more thing we can say, Wags.

Speaker 2 Oh, dude.

Speaker 2 See ya.

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