Handel's with Aniz Adam Ansari
Aniz Adam Ansari (@thecarolinagentleman, Loot) joins the 'boys to talk finding a stray kitten at Headgum, North Carolina chains, and arena food before a review of Handel's Homemade Ice Cream. Plus, a Shaq-sized snack or wack.
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But among the most infamous and brazen of this sinister six is James Traffikant, a Democrat who represented an Ohio district that included his hometown of Youngstown.
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This week on Doughboys, Handel's Homemade Ice Cream.
Welcome to Doughboys, the podcast about chain restaurants.
I'm Nick Weiger, along with my co-host,
the nicest person in comedy, the spoon man, Mike Mitchell.
It's a toast spoon man.
Wow.
From Sean D from the Doscore, roastedbirdFock.com.
I thought I'd do a Toast Spoon Man because, Mitch, you may not know this.
It's Mitch Appreciation Day.
Woo!
Was this, did you guys know about this?
Kind of.
Weiger said it casually in an email and I just didn't ask questions.
It's Mitch Appreciation Day.
Was I CC'd on the email?
No, you're not.
It would be funny if I was CC'd on the email because I probably still would not have seen it.
You definitely would not have.
We're not roasting you today.
We're going to be nice to you.
And this is partly due to our guests, largely due to our guests.
Well, guess what?
I appreciate it.
Of course.
Love you, buddy.
It's Mitch Appreciation Day here on the Doughboys podcast.
Wow.
Wigs.
Yeah.
Now I feel bad making fun of you.
Oh, no, it's fine.
That's fair game.
It's not Weiger Appreciation Day.
Have you seen Mufasa yet?
I have not seen Mufasa.
I was trying to see if there was a Mufasa happy meal, and there wasn't.
Still a Trapper Keeper-ass movie, as they say.
I think it was, I forgot who said that to me.
It was Moogie or Calpaza.
Somebody was like,
it was a Trapper Keeper.
It's a fucking Trapper Keeper cover fucking movie.
I haven't seen Mufasa, but I find those movies aesthetically repulsive.
Because
the original at 2D animation is so good.
The original fucking score is so good.
And
the old one was on TV the other night.
I was like, this fucking sucks.
It's It's bad.
It was really, it's, it is bad.
Yeah.
Why are you just doing this?
Like, why are you doing it again?
Look, people got paid and people made money.
God bless.
That's nice.
That's what we like.
We like.
We like that.
We like celebrities making money.
We like all the celebrities that made money.
God bless them.
Look,
it's wild times right now.
It's wild times and it's Mitch Appreciation Day here on the Doughboys podcast.
Wags, I love it.
Yeah.
You get a drop for us, Mitch.
Emma, hit him with a drop.
Oops, all segments.
Oops, all segments.
Look, they got lazy and they used old segments.
And all new segments, you fucking idiot.
You don't understand the concept of this?
Stop,
that's stupid.
It's my plot mine now.
Stop.
We
Thank you for the privilege of letting us do this podcast.
Maybe better, but happy to watch it.
Quite a groove there.
That was from the drop-off, wasn't it?
No.
Was that a residual drop-off entry?
I never heard that before.
Well, someone used you saying
someone used that sample, yeah.
Hello, this is my first attempt at making a drop.
I hope it's okay.
I wish I knew not.
I refuse to force anyone else I know to listen to it.
Certainly not my beautiful wife, so I have no idea.
I love this dumbass podcast.
Sometimes I don't feel so bad.
I waste so much money each month on Patreon.
So much money.
Oh, I mean, it is, it's five bucks a month.
It's not like it's cheap.
Yeah.
Eight bucks in the Platinum Play Club tier.
Yeah.
But also, like, like you were saying, so much money.
Maybe there are other
Patreons this person has subscribed to.
No, it seems like he was
talking about our micro targeted at us.
Enu is a.
thanks, Enu.
Yeah, Enu.
Thanks for supporting the podcast.
And hey, thank you for the podcast.
Dropbrookfuck.com.
Yeah.
Oh, never mind.
I thought that the dropper had a name of a quarterback, but I was actually, I was wrong.
He does not have the name of a quarterback.
You were hoping that Patrick.
Their name up top was,
yeah.
Anyways.
Jeff Gannon, Blast from the Past.
What was it?
They said they went by Inu.
They went by Inu.
I'm not going to dox their real name.
I'm not going to dox their real name.
We got Trent Dilfer.
Dilfer is that your grab?
I stopped watching the NFL at a certain point, so all my knowledge is back in like the Defense.
I like the Dilfer pool.
Yeah.
I just remember in college
seeing a hunk guy who was like such a dud.
I hate hunks.
Hunks suck.
I love hunks.
You know what?
You know what's fun?
It's a chunk.
Throw the hunk, get a chunk.
Sometimes chunky can be hunky, Mitch.
And you're exhibit A here on Mitch Appreciation Day.
Thank you, Oggs.
You know what?
Your example B.
Our guest today from Loot Master of None in the forthcoming film, Good Fortune, Aniz Adamansari is here.
Wow,
guys.
What's up, guys?
How's it going, buddy?
You know, guys, I don't like doing stuff like this.
No.
No, no.
I kind of just do me, do my work.
I'm in the streets.
I'm working.
I'm in the trenches.
But I didn't really have anything to do today.
And
the studio is fairly close to where I live.
Yeah.
And I want to give Mitch's flowers because it's Mitch Appreciation Day.
And I think a lot of this comes from you, which is, which I appreciate.
I was trying to dap you.
Oh, my bad dog.
I will say, you say a man in the streets.
That is true.
I do often see you around.
I'm out here.
I think my first real interaction with you, well, besides knowing your brother and working with your brother at some point and seeing you through that.
But for me, and I think for you, Wise, the first time we actually spent some good quality time was
wrestling shows.
Down in the Valley.
Down in the Valley, Reseda, California.
PWG was definitely,
I feel like, a large part of our initial interactions.
Yeah.
Great shows.
And you'd be hanging out in that parking parking lot two, three hours.
Love the Reseda venue, which is no longer in the American Legion.
Great times.
Great, great venue back there.
I, I, I, and Great McDonald's up there too, both.
They did have a really good.
Great McDonald's.
Really good McDonald's.
Good Taco Bell, decent IHOP.
I never went hit up there.
Denny's, Korean barbecue around the corner.
I went to a couple of times with the wrestlers.
Good days.
I knew you.
I knew you before that, but that's where we really got to hang out and know each other more.
So, and where Matt Riddle saw me and went, IFC.
It's just a great moment.
Hey, hey, R.I.P.
IFC.
Is it dead?
Is the channel gone?
You know what?
I think it's still there, but I think it's morally bankrupt.
I think they just play.
Yeah, after they pulled it off.
They just play reruns.
Yeah, they pulled the birthday boys off, and I think they just play reruns of Young Sheldon.
So you're watching?
Yeah, I'm
there.
You know, the thing with Wager that Young Sheldon wasn't young enough.
We've talked about this on the podcast.
Oh, well, it probably got exponentially worse for you then, man.
He's actually, he's watching the show from the finale backwards.
Have you watched Young Sheldon's brother and wife?
Wait, there is a Young Sheldon brother and wife show?
That's the new one.
Yeah, yeah, it's about Young Sheldon's brother and wife.
Like hanging out as kids?
No, no.
His brother's a little older and they get married.
They're like young married people.
They're like a young couple, but it's like still a period piece.
Still single cam?
No, no, no.
Yeah, it is single cam.
It is single cam.
Interesting.
Shout out to young Sheldon and the whole crew.
Bazinga.
Yo, yo, Mitch.
Mitch, let me get a Bazinga.
Bazinga.
Watch out.
Appreciation Day.
Bazinga Buddy.
Bazinga Buddies.
That's a good spin-off show.
Bazinga Buddies is a good idea.
Yeah.
Also could be our recap pod of Young Sheldon.
Yeah.
Post-shell.
Post-shell.
With Weiger, Mitch, and Chris Hardwick.
Bazinga Buddies.
I love it.
Wait,
there's something else we have to talk about.
We're in the recent aftermath of the Headgum Holiday Party
punk fest uh 2024.
And while that was going on, a cat was found.
I don't know this full story, so maybe I don't know Mitch, if you want to drive this, Amelia, you want to drive this, but this is this is this kind of dominated uh your experience of the party.
We get out of we get out of our record, yeah, yeah, we're recording it.
You may have heard this Patreon episode, we're recording while the party is going.
Party is happening, we get out, the party is in full swing, basically.
We're our brains fucking and sucking, yeah, people
and Hollywood, and they look good, baby rolls out.
They looked really, really good.
A lot of, there's a ton of, there's surplus baby oil this year because the Diddy parties went away.
So
there's, yeah, a lot of sucking.
I am like, ugh, I, my brain is melted.
We got to go to this party.
You and I are.
Look, if we didn't record on the day of the holiday party, there's a good chance we would not have been here just because we're losers that don't go to anything.
But I think that everyone else was excited to go to the party.
And I, and I was too.
I was excited to see people and hang out.
I dropped some elbows.
There you go.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
They had a taco.
They had a taco cart, which was nice.
They had some tacos.
I get out almost immediately from me.
I hear this news that a stray kitten has been found.
Yes.
It's in Marty's office.
Alex, who works at Headgum, she found the kitten, put it in Marty's office.
Shout out to Alex.
Alex, great work.
I
am immediately like, oh, fuck.
Well, first of all, I thought when when I heard that there's a stray kitten, I was like, my night's ruined because I'm going to go outside and try to find this stray kitten.
But now
I, it's, I, I, look, I have some trauma with kittens when I was younger.
I love kittens.
So I like, uh, so if there's a kitten I see on the street, it takes up my whole night.
This is the truth.
I, you know, the
cat is the kitty in the marsh.
I've told this story before.
It's a very sad ending to a stray cat, kitten I saw when I was younger.
I, if I see a cat, I need to try to help it, a stray cat.
Yeah, as soon as, as soon as this cat showed up and it's being
kind of a makeshift domicile for it is Marty's office, the CEO of Headgum.
His office is being used as the spot for
the stray cat to hang out.
And I just knew that you were going to be like, I was like, that's Mitch's night.
He's going to be completely fixated on this for the rest of the party.
And you did nothing else.
You were right.
I did nothing else.
I ate tacos at one point because I was like, I need to go eat.
Crushing Brewski's?
I had two drinks nervously looking at the door where the cat was.
That doesn't sound like Krushchev and Brewski's.
It was not Krush and Brewski's.
I was like, anxious.
it was anxious i was i was a bouncer standing by and by the way god bless marty for letting the cat kitten be in his room and knocked like a sentimental cup of his off of his desk yes yeah and uh marty's the man but but everyone wanted to go see the kitten because they were you know like they're like i want to pet it or whatever and then it turned into me uh screaming at the you know one of the owner of the network amir being like don't open the fucking door just screaming at a mirror give him space Give him space.
I was, I was just like, everyone, and everyone wanted to go in and see the fucking kitty and pet the kitty.
And I, I, that's what I was, it's a little kitten.
I'm like, it's going to dart out.
Yeah.
And I'm going to kill you.
And that's what I, that's, I said this to one of the hunks, and I, I couldn't have felt more like a school shooter-y.
Yeah.
Sometimes a chunk has to speak up to a hunk.
It's true.
And he's, thank you.
I agree.
It was, it was this thing where, that, where
one of the hunks, I was like,
he, I was, I was like, if he was like, what would happen if it got out?
And I was like, if it got out, I'd fucking kill everybody.
That's what I said to him.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I saw the look in his face be like, oh.
And I was like, I'm like the weirdo guy at high school now with all these fucking good-looking hunks.
Yeah, that's fucking funny.
That's my job.
They're all thinking I'm a weirdo.
Yeah.
And look, I might also just on that note, the other thing I remember is that you were talking to Marty.
He was being great throughout the whole thing, but you were talking to Marty and you're like, your fucking dip shit employees keep trying to get in there.
I mean,
sometimes the truth hurts.
I did say Sometimes the truth hurts.
I did say that exact line.
And Marty was like just laughing at me.
And then you know what?
To Amir's credit later on, I was like, I'm sorry I yelled at you.
I mean, I was like,
cancel the show, right?
Well, I don't know.
There's a lot of celebs coming in here.
The Doughboy stock's going down.
I was like, I said to Amir, I was like, I'm sorry.
I was joking, yelling a lot, but also was, at some points, was like, don't come in here.
But I said to Amir, I was like, I'm sorry that I was yelling.
He was like, he was, and to his credit, he was like, no, you were right.
Like, it was stupid to be letting people in.
I was like, okay.
So he's being nice about it.
Yeah.
There was a little bit of buyer's remorse because, or Mitch, helping Mitch remorse to one of our employees.
Yes.
I
asked Amelia, I was like, could you possibly take this cat home tonight?
And can you help me wash the door?
I'm so nervous about this cat.
I left the party.
And just you, you could not really house this kitten kitten with wally and irma and the kitten could be safe present you know there's a couple expansion of it one we're not sure if i have if it's fiv positive which fiv is is cat hiv based amelia also has a cat so all these problems also present this is true but hold on hold on emma this is this is a conversation that we had actually there and we talked about this at at at home
we were talking we were talking about this is that
So you can put the thing is you can put the kitten in a
basically the way that you get FIV this is so boring, but I gotta tell you, is that like, it's, it's usually transmitted through fighting.
So they like bite another cat, and it's like saliva to blood is usually how it transmits itself.
Right.
Wally normally don't.
If you just like sucked off a cat, you have nothing to worry about.
If you suck off a cat, you're safe.
Okay, got it.
Okay, great, great.
Whoo.
I feel good.
You were guarding that office, girl.
Or if you eat a cat out, also safe.
Okay, great, great.
You got to use a dental.
That's.
Mega always uses a dental dam with cats.
So we were talking outside.
Wally and Irma are very nervous.
They get very aggressive with other cats.
I could put him in my bedroom or in another room, Emma, which I think you're implying.
Wally opens doors now.
Oh, I forgot Wally knows what Wally opens up.
Wally can open doors.
And I'm just like, this is like, this is just not the, it's not going to work.
Amelia has a bathroom.
She was going to put the cat in the bathroom.
Also,
F, what is it?
FIV.
Not FIV, but leukemia.
But leukemia.
There's also feline leukemia
virus, which is, which is also dangerous.
I didn't think that anything was going to happen.
I said this that night.
I was like, I don't think that the cat is positive for either, but she had a bathroom.
And I was like, can you take it home and watch it?
She took it home.
Secretly, I also want her to keep the cat this whole time.
It is like, I have machinations here.
Is that the right word?
You're gaslighting her into cat ownership.
Yeah.
There is, there's a part of that too, but I, I, I, I, but I, I did, I cared about this kitten and I wanted her.
And Amelia had a bathroom, she was keeping it in her bathroom, which was chaos to her.
We went to Santa Dor the next day.
They took, oh, it was the party was a Thursday night.
Saturday, we went into Santa Dora.
Shout out to Santa Dora.
So shout out to Sante Dora, which we're going to make a contribution to them.
We will make a contribution by the time this episode comes out.
We've been making contributions.
I know, but we did.
They did a lot of nice stuff.
So they tested the cat FIV free, no leukemia virus, and
it wasn't chipped.
So, Amelia, if you want to speak up on maybe all of this, because I've given my side of the story here, yeah.
Okay.
So, Mitch asks me to house the cat for one night, and I'm like, sure, yeah, that's no problem.
First of all, at this party, I'm way more nervous about Mitch at this point than I am about the cat itself because Mitch is freaking out.
And I was like, he's like clawing at his skin.
He's so nervous.
I think you're having a panic attack.
Yeah.
Kind of.
I think so.
The cats are so innocent and sweet.
Just a little baby.
The cat was fine.
The cat was fine.
And I was like, you know what?
I think the lowest stress situation is for me to house the cat because I don't think, I think it would have been a lot mentally for you to.
He would not have slept a wink that night.
No.
Yeah.
And I was very casual.
So I was like, yeah, I'll take the cat, no problem.
Then the next day, Mitch is like, can you hold on to it for one more night?
My bathroom's destroyed at this point.
Man, what'd you do after those talks?
No, no, no.
That was a miscommunication here for you.
My bathroom was not destroyed.
My bathroom was fine.
Amelia's bathroom was destroyed.
The kids died.
The cat, the kid destroyed the bathroom.
So I'm like, yeah, one more night.
We go to Santa Dor.
Everything's good.
We de-fleed her, de whatever.
Yeah.
De-wormed.
Dewormed.
D-F-I-V'd.
They put some dewormer in my mouth, too.
Like Invernect.
So now I'm allowed to let her out and about.
And that's where things get tricky because I did a very good job of not
getting attached to this little kitten.
And now
she's sleeping on my neck every night.
She's a little cutie patootie.
She's so tested positive for being a cutie patootie.
Exactly.
She's so cute.
She's so affectionate.
Wait, no, cuddly.
You should say what the name, which I think is great.
Oh, I decided to call her now for now.
I called her Sunny because we found her on Sunset Boulevard.
Weiger wants to call her cum.
That was just a pitch.
I was just like, we never lock into it.
We were calling her a little Caesar for a while.
We had done a little Caesars episode that same day, so Little Caesars felt fitting.
Yes.
But a little lady.
It's a little lady, and we like Sunny.
we liked sunny
also she was found on sunset boulevard in a wheel well a very dangerous spot shout out to alex for saving her she's thrilled to be alive this cat damn um but you're a hero first of all amelia's a hero for saving this cat's life
no no it's mitch appreciation day not me it's the truth she's the hero i merely kind of helped but i i was very nervous it's it's it is almost
look i can tell you're nervous now just reliving yes i am having But also,
I did say to you that, like, you were going to twist it to me being selfish, and there is a little bit of selfishness trying to save the cat.
When did I do that?
On the text, remember, I was like, of course, you're going to try to spin it being like me doing this for selfish reasons when I'm just trying to save the cat, which I am.
I'm not doing it.
I didn't do that.
I know.
I don't know.
You said
you were about him.
Are you developing a martyr complex?
There is a bit of selfishness to it because I do care about,
I do get very worked about animals.
And I know that I'm a guy who eats meat.
I know it's a little bit.
Oh, we know you're a guy who eats meat.
I know that, I know that I a bit of a, what's the word I'm looking for?
A hypocrite.
But I don't know why.
Look, I'm going crazy.
This is a societal problem.
This is an issue where we have different hierarchies for different life forms.
Some are vermin, some are pets, some are food.
Some are hunks, some are hunks, some are chunks.
I love cats.
I'm trying to push you towards keeping it.
I told you that would, I would give kitten support the entire
I will like treat this like child support if you decide to keep it.
I'm like, I did say,
I do want her to meet Wally Nirma at some point.
And we want to bring her into the studio, but Casey's allergic.
Sorry.
We still want to do it.
What if we kept her in a cat backpack and we didn't let her out?
That's that.
I mean, that could be.
Or what if you put Casey in a backpack?
Maybe he needs to be in one of those little tubes.
Put a cake over your head while you prove it.
I'm open to it.
We can have you in like a contagion suit for the whole episode.
You can get me a contagion suit.
And then you got to walk out into the alley and get sprayed down with a hose.
Emma, you got to do that.
Okay.
Maybe that.
I'm ready.
If you have this kitten meet Wally and Irma, you will never let her go.
I know.
I think they also will try to like.
She matches.
a tuxedo cat.
We'll throw some photos into the YouTube channel.
Oh, yeah.
She's a polydactyl.
She's a polydactyl.
She's got extra thumbs.
Wild.
Wow.
Polydactyl.
Yeah.
She could be a hooper.
She could.
Yeah.
Imagine if she could.
You could get that girl on the get that cat on the clippers.
They need some backbone out.
Imagine what an advantage that would be in pro sports if you could be a polydactyl athlete.
That would really be something.
You got like a sixth finger.
I thought you were saying with the cat.
And I was like, I think the cat will be bad at the game.
No, I I mean, if human beings had that, like, that was a common genetic mutation.
It's like, oh, I got six fingers.
I can throw a two-thumbed fastball.
You could be six-fingered Mitch.
That's what they would call you.
Sounds good as hell.
Wouldn't be using them too much.
What were you going to say?
I was going to say, I have made a good faith effort to find the owner of this cat because it was found with a collar.
What's found with a collar?
But
I've been posting on Facebook, Paw Boost, Next Door.
Blue Sky.
Not Blue Social.
That would be so funny.
True Social, you find the owner.
Did you say Kik?
Kick, yeah.
That's like the conservative streaming platform.
Oh, right.
Yes.
Yeah.
Meet his friends on there.
What's the horny one?
What's the horny app that were people like just hook up?
What is it?
I thought that was kick.
Oh, is it kick?
You mean grinder?
No, not grinder, but also grinder works too.
What's the one?
Isn't there one where they like just hook up?
You're thinking of field.
Field.
Wait, what's field?
Oh, Casey's a little freak, it turns out.
Exposed, bro.
Casey's a play in the the field, if you will.
What is Field?
Field, it's like, you know, an app if you're looking for a good time.
So people just, it's like they're hooking up.
Well, it's mine.
It's not for finding a relationship.
Let me check this out.
Okay.
I think it's for more
casual encounters.
Not necessarily more like sexually open and experimental people, like polyamorous relationships.
If you want to be a third, you should slide on there.
That sounds like a true nightmare, and also, I could just get that from this show.
If I
said it on an episode,
looking for a husky third?
Hey, excuse me, Spoon Man.
We saw you from across the bar.
We kind of
honestly, it's already kind of happened.
That's the secret Patreon.
Wages has witnessed it a couple times.
There is a vibrant hot wifing community among the Doughboys fandom.
I think that
I think you're doing God's work here.
It's really not much.
It's fun.
It's fun to do.
I want you to keep Sonny, but I also know that's a lot to take in another cat.
But a second cat.
Let's see what happens.
I mean, she's warm.
She's melting my heart every damn day.
She's got to work on Arthur.
Yeah.
Yeah.
She's got to work on Arthur.
So good update.
She sniffed Arthur's butt today.
Hey, there you go.
Yeah, and Arthur,
let that happen.
Wow.
Makes two of us.
You sniffed Arthur's butt today.
Emmy perked up.
She wants to sniff Arthur's butt.
Me enough.
Amelia, I will say what I said previously, which is that whatever happens with this cat, you've already gone above and beyond.
That was very, very noble of you to take care of this stray.
And Mitch, you as well.
I should say a very, very caring man.
I've called you Tony Soprano in the past with affection because you have that length.
That's the biggest insult of all.
No, no, no, but you have
that love of of animals sociopath that loves animals yeah
you could choke one of your loved ones to death he's a hunk and a chunk it's true he's the nicest man in comedy oh that's true tony soprano also very funny yeah i my my youtube algorithm is a lot of uh soprano clips now yeah i get a lot of them like i was watching one of the polly beating up like i remember the like the lady who likes her son and then polly beats him up because like his because his mom likes him basically yeah i love the uh i mean that's that's like a great scene because it's just he doesn't know how to process that feeling Yeah.
Um, but the um
I love I love the Sopranos because like first there are people who are like just like funny in the comments who like like, you know, a lot of running jokes and a lot of memes, a lot of Sopranos references in the comments.
But then there'll also be people who will just be like, that's why you don't disrespect the boss.
Dumb Italian guy.
And he's, I apologize for that tangent, but
we had to discuss the cat.
We had to discuss the cat.
We had to discuss the cat.
No.
Okay, we got to talk about a couple of things you're wearing.
First off, you got the Gamecocks hat on.
You are from South Carolina.
South Carolina, born and raised.
And you've also got the Kanes, the Raising Canes sunglasses.
Now, talk us through the sunglasses, Fruit.
How'd you end up with those?
Well, I'm a big Kanes fan.
Shout out to Kanes.
I love a good box with a sweet tea, slaw, extra toast.
I go to Kanes a lot whenever I can.
Was it ever, like, when you were in the South, was it a friend of mine?
Well, no, Kane's wasn't around growing up.
I grew up in a really small town in South Carolina called Bennettsville.
And we had a local fast food place called The Dairy Dream.
And they had, like, it was owned by a Greek family who were some of my family's closest friends.
We were the two immigrant families in the small town, one from Greece, one from India.
And they had like fried chicken and gyros and ice cream, but their best thing was like a chicken finger box.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, which was chicken fingers.
slaw and they would do like a like a roll like a wonder bread roll so the kind of box style that you get at Kane's, tender slaw, and some bread with a sweet tea.
That's very nostalgic to me.
Yeah, right.
Kane's was kind of a newer brand.
So, as soon as I found out about it, I got into it.
And then, as soon as they opened one, there's one in Burbank and there's one in Alhambra.
Those are the twos I go to.
Yeah.
I try to hit it up whenever I can.
And one time I went there and I saw these fire Kane sunglasses available.
And they're very sharp.
The lovely lady checking me out said, All you have to do is fill out a little survey at the bottom of the receipt.
Wow.
Did that right away.
Service, five.
Food, five.
Atmosphere, five.
Do you have to give all perfect to get the glasses or were they given to you no?
No, you could be honest, but hell, I was being honest.
And I got these Kane's glasses and
we're here.
You were very nervous that you maybe had left the glasses today at the restaurant.
Yes.
And they were just on your hat, it turns out.
Yes.
That was huge relief.
Huge relief.
I was sitting in the car kind of like
a hole, kind of like Mitch when he was guarding the cat.
It was just a hole in my gut, anxiety.
And there had been a couple of times in the past I thought I lost them and they turned up again.
But I was like, well, this time they're really gone.
Well, because you've also got the thing that, you know, you wear glasses normally.
Yeah.
And so, and I remember when I, you know, I have laysick, I got lay sick many years ago, but I used to be a glasses wearer.
And so like, yeah, I wanted to do the sunglasses swap as a whole.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I saw you do improv show.
Oh, I guess you did kind of wear glasses.
I had glasses, and then I also had contact lenses.
I wore contact lenses a lot once I went to Orlando style, right?
They were very much in the movie.
And then I got LASIK, and then I never had to worry about it.
Yeah, that's the problem with sunglasses for me because I got to get the prescription.
I stopped getting like nice sunglasses because I'd always lose them.
Yeah.
And then I was out of the sunglasses game for a minute.
And then, you know what?
Raising Canes brought me back.
Yeah.
Canes isn't around where I'm from.
Oh, okay.
Oh, shit.
Yeah, it's a Louisiana.
it's a louisiana spa yeah but but i know it is around where you're from because we've talked about it before is bojangles bojangles is a carolina chain so if i'm hit going home here's chains i'm hitting up number one bojangles that's a classic originated in north carolina fried chicken biscuits the legendary sweet tea and one of my favorite dessert items on any chain restaurant the bowberry biscuits the bowberry biscuits were a delight when we had them in tennis i i i like
told us that we had to get them yeah yeah you got to get them i I fly in through Charlotte Airport all the time.
My parents live outside of Charlotte now in Waxlaw, North Carolina.
So Terminal B at Charlotte Douglas Airport.
That's where the Bojangles is.
On my way out or on my way in, I'm popping into Bojangles for sure.
The airport Bojangles is a good execution of it.
It's great.
Any direct flights from LA there or you're going to take
up
25 hours.
American Airways, send me some points.
American Airways.
Send me some points.
I think no one likes this classification anymore, but I would say you're a foodie.
I think that that is fair to say.
Yeah, I'm a food dude.
I'm a foodie.
I'm an enthusiast.
I'm a food, food historian.
I'm a food enthusiast.
I feel like when we're texting, we're almost always texting about food.
We're almost always texting about food.
Yeah.
Yeah.
My brother, also, too, a big food guy.
I was saying today that I went to Little Dom's Greek Brother the first time for the MTV Movie Awards.
It was famously where I put my hand on Tom Cruise's back for five minutes and then took my hand off of his back.
And you absorbed his Thetans.
I sucked them out.
Just jokes, Tom.
Hit me up.
All of.
I met Tom Cruise once and he was really nice to me.
He'd remember it.
Shout out, Tom.
Wow.
That's around that same time.
I was going to say, that was the time I met him was my hand on his back.
I never really, I guess, got to officially meet him, but I was still looking back.
Dead in the eyes.
Yeah, he's a very, very direct chalker guy.
I saw that from when he was talking to people.
That's why when you're just hanging out on his back, he he doesn't really,
there's not much.
He doesn't turn around too much.
But I remember in the early days of Love's Fields, like little doms was, and then Best Fish Talk.
Best Fish Talk.
Best Fish Talk.
You know, my cousin,
who I grew up with, she lives back home in South Carolina.
Now, she lived in LA for a period when I, around that time, when I first moved here, and she'll ask, what are, oh, people still go to Best Fish Talk?
I'm like, no.
No, they kind of don't.
They don't.
It's still in operation, though.
It still is an operation.
It still is good.
I mean, it's just.
I don't want to throw out misinformation, but I believe there was some like
problematic
situation with
running some comedy shows there, and maybe there's some problematic information came out about the ownership.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Maybe you can, and Knicks fans can hit that up, the police.
Yeah, I'm not sure what, but people don't go to it as much anymore, right?
Fish tacos is tough, man.
Well, for me, that was Best Fish Taco and Ensignado was like kind of a hot spot back then.
And then to to me what really took it out was a
place that's very near and dear to my heart Ricky's fish tacos any of you ever went to Ricky's yeah I went to Ricky's used to run in the the old blockbuster parking lot on Sunset yeah and then he moved he was for a while on Riverside Drive and Ricky me and my brother got to know him over the years he catered some stuff for us just super nice guy and I think like he got put that you know it's tough running these food trucks and i think like especially that area in in los files riverside drive i think the like
under the bridge, it kind of got pushed out by public infrastructure.
They built all those bike lanes and those like weird poles they use to displace homeless people.
He's fucking bike off.
But that was my favorite fish taco in LA for a long time.
Now I like,
if I want to get a fish taco, I'm Moriscos on Sunset.
Yeah, that place is bomb.
But wait, so the fish taco is, because I remember, I grew up in Southern California, a lifelong LA server dude.
And
I remember discovering the fish taco because it was like, it was not a thing that was even common in SoCal for a time when I was a kid.
And I, I can't imagine
what's that?
Guisados.
Guizados doesn't have a lot of fun.
Guisados is great.
But
I can't imagine that there were, there were fish tacos certainly in Massachusetts or in South Carolina.
This is a thing you learn about in LA.
In Massachusetts, we have plenty of fish, but no tacos.
You're right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, like, early on, I remember I would get a shrimp quesadilla.
We could get a shrimp quesadilla from like, there's a very specific style of Mexican food you get down south.
In Colombia, where I grew up, there's a chain called San Jose's.
If you're from Colombia, you know San Jose's.
And it's very, like, a little less rustic and more like a lot of queso and like
little tex-mexi.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And they, they did
like you get like a shrimp quesadilla or like a shrimp taco, but not this classic like beer.
Once, like, I think there was like, in a way that like salted caramel just became a thing at a certain point.
like beer battered fish taco kind of became the thing right right yeah yeah yeah yeah now now i can get it anywhere but yeah you could probably get a fish taco back in mass like way back even in the day but it's just because we have a lot of fish and also it was at like the one or two like you know the one mexican restaurant in town or whatever like fried fish in new england is like clam strip rolls it's always like on bread and yeah it's always
yeah yeah but like at a
i feel like if you there was like there was definitely seafood at mexican restaurants and you could probably get a fish tackle, but like the idea of a fish tackle, when I came out here, yeah, more so, I would say, out here.
Kind of a mind, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
I did want to get your take on Bojangles has a regional competitor.
I know it's not exactly, it's, it's, I believe, from Georgia, not from the Carolinas, but Zaxby's.
I love Zaxpies, man.
And honestly, I wouldn't.
This is my personal opinion.
Yeah.
I wouldn't consider them competition.
I feel like they're two different skews because Bojangles is chicken and biscuits.
That's a very specific skew.
There used to be, there used to be a couple of other other ones in the area.
One from Georgia, I really like, I don't know if it's ever come up on here, Mrs.
Winter's chicken and biscuits.
No.
If you're from Georgia, you know Mrs.
Winters.
It's Mrs.
Winters for Dinners.
That was a pretty good chicken and biscuit place that closed down.
But Bojangles is like fried chicken and biscuits.
Zaxby's is wings and tenders.
So I'm going to Bojangles.
I'm getting like a two P, either a two piece in a biscuit, or my personal favorite thing to get at Bojangles is the Cajun fillet biscuit.
It's a spicy chicken fillet fried on a biscuit.
I put a little Texas peat on top, get some sweet tea, and the Boberry biscuit on the side.
Phenomenal meal.
Wow.
Zaxby's is more of like,
to me, they are Zaxby's and I don't know if you
talked American Deli on here?
No, we have not.
American Deli is a classic like Georgia, Atlanta thing.
We haven't spent much time in
the South.
We've got rid of Show and Atlanta.
It's wings.
It's wings.
American Deli has, and Zaxby's to me have the best like, fast food wings.
Yeah.
So Zaxby's, I always get and recommend people get.
They have their main order excuse called the Wings and Things combo.
Well, first off, Zaxby's, you got to shout out everything on Zaxby's menu is kind of like has the Mortal Kombat style where you know if you play a Mortal Kombat video game, it's like everything has the K.
And Zaxby's like everything is King.
So you don't have appetizers.
You don't have appetizers and salads.
You have Zapatizers.
Oh, you want a salad?
No, I'm sorry.
Sorry.
We have a zalad, which zalads are insane.
I saw an ad one thing I like about.
Yeah, a zalad is wild.
One thing I like about watching sports.
I was trying to think of a third, a third K.
Killer instinct.
That's a different game.
Yeah, a different game.
That's a different game.
I saw a commercial for a Zalad on regional sports TV watching Atlanta Hawks on NBA League Pass.
And it was like, here's a salad with two-piece chicken tenders and a whole egg roll.
And Zalad's wife.
It's just basically the bed.
But the wings and things combo is great.
You get some wings, you get chicken tenders, you get fries, celery, and carrot, and a Texas toast.
And then you get Zach sauce, which is kind of like their Kang sauce.
And I like to do Wings and Things combo.
I do the Tongue Torch Wings, which is like one step up from hot.
Tongue Torch.
And then a little, you know, they don't advertise this on the menu, but you can get your wings tossed in, excuse me, your tenders tossed in wing sauce.
Oh, wow.
So I like to do, they have a really nice teriyaki sauce.
I'll get tenders in the teriyaki sauce, extra ranch, extra toast, boom.
So Zaxby's is great.
I love, I love Zaxby's.
If I'm home for a while, I'll try to hit Zaxby's, Bojangles.
I'd say my top Waffle House.
That's the one.
I don't get that out here.
Waffle House is probably my favorite, favorite chain.
Waffle House is what we've said before on the podcast.
We're glad it's not out here.
Like, like these regional chains should stay regional.
And like it loses some of its charm if it, if it expands.
out.
It'd be pretty cool if we had a lot of fun.
It would be great if you had a 24-hour waffle house that was really hit.
Yeah, they're open at Bojangles out in Southern California.
I feel like it is a little bit of that vibe.
They're going to fuck it up.
Yeah,
look, it's a huge possibility.
But I will say, just also the late night food game in Los Angeles went so downhill.
I mean, almost everywhere because of COVID, so many places, late-night food game went downhill.
It's just tacos.
It's just tacos, really.
It's mostly tacos.
And you can go to Langers, but I mean, that's kind of like, I mean, you're if you're over there.
Like it's, it's, it is, it's just, it's just trickier now where, like, even, even when i would go to cactus taqueria which would be open until four in the morning on vine it's closes at like midnight now but is ricky's fish talk is is ricky's gone i you know i i've lost ricky if you're hearing this man please reach out to us i just we haven't heard from you for a while i hope he's okay i hope
he's okay i think he just is you know dealing with business and he kind of went dark on social but uh
like dark like he's making like fucked up jokes he's gone q and no
he just can't stop he has a manifesto like
uh no no they just kind of wound down business and i don't know what's up there but i never got the because the lobster tacos were the ones that they had on certain i mean can i tell you guys can i tell you guys a secret yeah please you may have to end this at the pod okay great but ricky's hasn't been been operating but
he did give me and my brother the recipe Wow
so
we've made it with the Ricky's recipe and
we've done a pretty good job.
Wow.
It's pretty good.
Though the only problem is
like he gave us the recipe, like he makes it.
And my brother didn't scale it down.
So we just had this like big ass tub of like batter.
It was just like, he put it in the fridge.
And my brother's the king of like, oh, you think this has been in the fridge for like three weeks, four weeks, five weeks.
Is it good?
You think it's good?
I'm like, no.
He'll call me in the middle of like, you know, he lives in London, so we have a time difference.
So it'll be like the middle of the night here, early in the morning.
Like, hey, man, I had this
curry in the fridge for like, I don't know, I made it on Sunday.
Like, do you think it's good?
I'm like, it's Thursday, man.
Like, I don't know.
Smell it.
Like, yeah, that's
five days afterwards.
That's that's I try.
People get pretty paranoid about stuff like that.
I try to just make small portions and eat quickly.
The smarter way to do it.
I am, I am.
Natalie is great about it and I'm pretty mad about it.
I do like
leftovers.
I feel like some people have an anti-leftovers take.
I love leftovers.
I think that's both trash and racist.
I just said I love leftovers.
Oh, wait.
Okay, sorry.
I didn't know what you said.
I mean, I do too.
I love leftovers.
I love leftovers, and I voted for Barack Obama.
Things change over the next month.
You're like, we are sorry for saying we like leftovers.
I'm sorry that I said I voted for Barack Obama.
I did not vote for him.
I, of course, voted for Barack Obama twice, actually.
Did I vote twice?
I probably voted twice.
I think so.
I think I probably.
I think the one election I didn't vote for was.
Well, I won't say it.
I did say you, I did try to get that you were a Romney guy going on the podcast, and that didn't really get any traction.
It wasn't, yeah, there's other actors who are Romney guys.
You know what?
I did vote for is chunk of the year, and I voted for my man Mitch.
Mitch Appreciation Day.
Hold on a second.
I'm not sure of chunk of the year.
It's pretty good.
Fuck Josh Gad.
It's Mitch this year.
I think Gad's won it four years running.
This is
always, Gad always beats me
for chunk of the year.
Gad always wins chunk of the year and then cries at the acceptance.
It's okay to cry.
We got to talk.
That is a shot on Gash Gad.
We got to talk undeserved.
We got to talk ice cream.
Fuck Josh Gadd.
We're going for it.
Yeah.
More like Josh Gak, you fucking slimy fuck.
We're sorry for saying fuck Josh Gad.
Calling him Josh Gak.
Hey, Josh Gad, your children's book, Pitcher Face Lizzie, sucks.
sucks.
Wow.
I wouldn't let my niece read that for shit.
Come find me, Gack.
I'm outside.
I'm outside.
I'm in Los Angeles.
Where are you?
Is Gad, is he tough at all?
I'm sure he's a nice guy.
He's busy fucking Cuberts.
I don't care.
He doesn't care.
Oh, yeah, that's right.
He fucks Qbert.
He fucks Qbert and Pixels.
I want to say when I, when I, when I, first of all, bike lanes tie into the restaurant technology that's right
newly installed bike lanes that look like shit are uh they already look like shit so fast uh that's Los Angeles for they look like giant like they're just big covered
condom penises yes they they look that's I mean that's a great way to
describe I don't like the the plastic barricades that they use because first of all I don't think they do anything to dissuade motorists I think people just run them over I think that they need something a little bit they need some some actual uh stopping power people are I mean if you drove by that, you know, it's the four posts and there's parking spaces.
People will park all Caddy Wampus left and
it was crazy.
But just give us a curve.
The idea of bike lanes, you know, we want to have more, more transit, more infrastructure for people to ride around.
When I pulled up to Handel's, our restaurant for today.
America's Creamery since 1945.
1945.
That's right.
So my dad was three when it was a landmark year in American history.
Some people call it the turning point.
Ooh, we're talking about it.
Shortly after J.
Robert Oppenheimer dropped the atomic bomb on two beautiful cities in Japan.
We're talking about the Alice Handel had a dream of making premium ice creams of a variety of flavors and serving them to the people of this beautiful country.
Wow.
Wow.
Just riffing out an intro.
Very well done.
Right around when Oppenheimer,
that's right, right then, huh?
45 is 25.
45 is when it ends.
Is that when it ends?
Is that when it ends?
Yeah, 1945, yeah.
The war ends, huh?
WW2,
the second big one.
Yo, yo, real quick, real quick, shout out to the greatest generation.
It's my dogs.
There's some good ones in the greatest generation.
You know, greatest generation was a joke, but now you look at like generation now, our generation, generation coming up, like, yeah, it probably
peaked.
It was pretty good.
It's probably peaked with that generation.
There's some people that are.
They can fix tire and like.
There's boomers.
I know.
I know.
I know that I went after
the silent generation, right?
Is that what the same overlap present?
Or is it partly greatest generation, partly boomer?
I think it's all silent generation.
Look, Hollywood Boulevard, fine.
Turn it into a.
Dreams are made and broken.
Anise is right.
Dreams are made and broken on this street.
Turn it into a bike street.
Have it just so you can cross traffic there and going east to west.
It is.
I think that's the idea of shutting down Hollywood Boulevard.
It's already shut down so much anyway.
It's one of the worst parts of the whole city, and the idea of making that into a walkable space instead of closing it to through through traffic seems to make a lot of sense it seems like a way they could get perfect
lanes aren't so perfect after i didn't say that bike lanes
we need more bike lanes
we need more bike lanes and we need more bus lanes
vaubbing bike lane and it's fucking annoys the shit out of me
you were wrong just admit you were wrong on the bike lanes what do you mean what was wrong about the bike lanes what are the hell you talking about what happened today in front of the restaurant a debacle yeah that guy was parked in the wrong there was there was a guy so when we got to handles today wrong about the immediate next
we're not getting into a fight about this
We're not going to fight about bike lanes on Mitch Appreciation Day.
But more bus lanes and more bike lanes is generally good.
Sure.
Okay.
Moving people around is a business moving around.
I'm just being a bad guy here.
But devil's advocate telling what happened at Handles, Mitch.
I pulled up and I was parked in one of the new spaces that makes space for the bike lane.
It narrows the road.
Traffic is worse.
But
we should clarify, just to repeat, just to paint a picture for people who maybe haven't seen this in their town.
This is a thing that you see.
We saw a lot of in Toronto.
It's like a newer approach or a somewhat newer approach.
And all the the transport guys hated it so much It's a it's a well yeah if you drive for a living It's it's it's a little bit but I mean there's also just an overall we're not gonna get into it anyway.
I was gonna say there's sidewalk for I am for the middle sidewalk bike lane
Barrier and then parking.
Yes, and so if it wasn't done in such a shitty Hollywood way I would have been more I'm not saying it's a great implementation of the idea, but it's like it's a good idea if it was a sensible barrier maybe like yeah the little pylon system there they're they're also on riverside drive It's the same shit that displaced Ricky's fish tacos.
There's a lot of negativity coming from these fucking pylons.
And look, I will say this.
There were two bikers today using the bike lane, but at the same time, there was a guy who pulled up and parked in a loading zone.
in the bike lane yes and there was a huge fight between one of the bikers and the biker was in the right the biker was like hey man you have to park on the other side of the bike lane you're parked in the bike lane and like those guys like almost hit him on their bikes and the guy went off and was just fucking swearing at these guys he's like fucking keep going he was like he was like fucking keep going and mitch was like can i get the brownie
it is true i was i i was ordering my and i and this guy was getting to a big fight with this guy parked there right near where my car was parked i was on the other side we did get the bystander thing which i always love which is the guy who sees that you were talk like observing and then just is like like you guys are on my side right like the guy biker driver's
Yeah, right.
I've sometimes been that guy.
I love getting that reassurance.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I gave him, I gave him this thing where I was like, yeah, man, he didn't get it.
That's what I said.
And then I looked over nervously to see if that guy heard it.
Because I didn't want to get, I didn't want to have to be like, fuck.
And the guy's like, oh, yeah, fuck you too.
I'm like, fuck.
You're holding a massive brownie sunny with a cherry on top.
Look, what would you say, bro?
I would have kicked the shit out of that guy in his car.
Actually, he was pretty aggressive.
I don't know.
He was kind of a.
He was a big dude, but he was pretty aggro.
And I wouldn't want to mess up.
Who wins in a fight?
That guy versus the three of us and small spoilers, Susser.
I mean, Susser, I'm going to go ahead and take him out of the equation.
I don't think he's jumping in.
No, he's not.
No, he's not.
I don't think he's in the job.
Susser would at least break things up when we were getting our asses kicked.
He might break things up.
I would try to cover.
Actually, Susser might join in on that guy's side when we're losing.
There's a possibility that Susser would jump in and fucking start hitting us.
He's anti-bike lanes as well.
okay.
Susser covered in whipped cream and ice cream.
Handles was covered.
We'll get into that.
We'll get into it.
Handles homemade ice cream, as Adiz said, was founded in 1945 in Youngstown, Ohio by Alice Handel.
Alice sold ice cream made with fruit from her own backyard out of her husband's gas station.
That's the genesis of this place.
I think there are still a lot of fresh fruit mix-ins into their creams.
The ice cream is made in store each day.
It expanded to California in the 2010s and has over 120 franchises in 14 states.
So here's the thing.
I didn't know much about handles just in general.
I did.
We saw them popping up because they were in SoCal, but they started popping up in LA proper within the past five years.
And I was worried they might be a pandemic casualty, but they seem to be thriving or at least surviving.
They
I did not, I had never had handles before.
I had never had it.
And then you saw this National Geographic.
Yes.
That was the big thing.
National Geographic said it was like the best ice cream in America.
Interesting.
So,
you know, but this was 2006, but still, it's like, it's, it's well regarded and it has a lot of history.
Because I'd never had handles and because I'm a bit of a creamsman, which I believe our guest is as well.
Same and had never had handles as well.
I made three separate trips to handles to try to sample all of their offerings because the thing that you deal with with ice cream is you can't have nice research.
You can't have like just spreading
diminishing returns.
You fucking
fat piece of shit.
You can't have like, you can't have like eight scoops of ice cream in one sitting.
You need to spread it out a little bit.
I went last night.
Yeah.
To be fair.
Me and Mitch went twice.
We went back to the day.
I went today.
You guys were going today, and I was like, okay, I'm going to go.
I went yesterday and today as well.
And I did not know much of handles at all.
I love the vibe of the place.
You were sending me photos.
It's a counter.
It's all.
The handles in
Hollywood that we went to is kind of a counter vibe.
Yeah.
Weather's been kind of nice.
That was cool.
It was, it was, I think that this place is going to go crazy in the summertime.
Yes, especially that spot.
That street.
Look, the bike lanes are making it pretty nice.
That's true.
A couple of options, a couple of small local chains, homestate, go get them tiger up in there.
That's right.
So go roll.
And Mendocino Farms right next to the
CFG California Fish Grill.
Oh, yeah.
Just opened up.
I like California Fish Grill.
Would you like that or California Chicken Cafe more?
I like California Chicken Cafe more, but I like California Fish Grill.
It's good.
It's a good option.
Should I talk about what I did last night?
Yes, please.
I got myself a hurricane.
Cane.
So that,
I was, when I saw a hurricane on the menu, I was a little confused at first because to me, when I see hurricane, I don't know if it's a regional thing or I think of this like an alcoholic drink called the blizzard.
Oh, yeah, I'm aware of the hurricane.
Yeah.
So that's what I thought.
And then I was like, oh, no, it's ice cream thing.
And now I realize, oh, it's, it's just a, it's a direct shot at DQ.
It's their blizzard.
It's their version of a blizzard.
It's their blizzard.
It is.
This is a thing that Natalie pointed out: a lot of their flavors, a lot of their menu items are like, you know, basically royalty-free nods to existing things or competitors.
Like, for instance, they have that.
They have the hurricanes, which are the blizzards.
The other one that I think is really noticeable is they have a chunky monkey that is just exactly chunky monkey that is called monkey business.
Monkey business.
This is a little more niche, and I've seen this come around at different places, but they have the
cookie monster style flavor, which is a blue ice cream with Oreo cookies and classic chocolate chip cookies.
You see it on a lot of menus, and I could be wrong, but to my knowledge, that flavor originates at the California, Southern California chain Afters.
Because Afters was the first place I saw it, and they dropped it when they were doing an official collab with Sesame Street Workshop.
Wow.
And they specifically used the like to the Panatone coin
dye that's proprietary to Sesame Street Workshop and the Cookie monster for that.
So I think anytime you see that, I think that's a ripoff of afters.
I could totally say that.
I could be wrong.
If I'm wrong on Reddit,
correct me, but do it in a nice way.
Don't got to be like, well, you know what I mean?
Just be like, hey, man, I heard what you said.
We got bad news.
It's not going to be in a nice way.
Well, I'm trying to activate change amongst your community, dog.
So just like, think about how you present the information.
I think people will have a
will be commenting in good spirits here on Mitch Appreciation Appreciation Day.
This will be a celebration.
Some love is all I ask.
I think you're right, Wise.
I think people will be really nice today on Mitch Appreciation Day.
Speaking of saying something nice about Mitch, I just kind of noticed his fits kind of giving a little cookie monster.
Kind of do have a cookie monster.
Give a little cookie monster vibe.
Ookie cookie.
That's classic cook.
You know what I'm going to say?
Give me Ookie Cookie.
You know what I want to say, Anise, is that speaking of very nice,
I meant to say this up top.
Last Thanksgiving, I was ill.
I had the flu.
I was sick with the flu, so my Thanksgiving was awas.
This guy came over with a Thanksgiving dinner and dropped it off at my door.
Brought you a plate.
It was extremely nice.
It was extremely nice.
I'll never forget it.
It was a very nice gesture.
Truly one of the saddest texts I've ever gotten.
Maybe Sasha's Thanksgiving going, I have the flu.
I'm by myself at home.
I think I said, like, oh, are you going to eat anything?
You're like, I may order some dominoes or something.
like, bro, I'm bringing you a plate, dude.
We're pretty close by.
We have leftovers.
I'm bringing you a plate.
A great plate, too, by the way.
Awesome Thanksgiving at my brother's house.
Me and my brother love to kind of cook and entertain.
So we had a lot of food on deck that year.
A great plate.
It was a great plate.
And it was very, it was very
good.
We had the turkey going,
rice.
You already, me and my brother do a classic southern style mac and cheese.
Oh, that's fun.
Wait, what's your, what's your secret to your mac and cheese?
Well, we, when I was growing up, both my parents worked.
As a doctor, my mom works at the hospital, the medical office.
So we had a nanny that took care of us, and she would make us, she was a woman who grew up in South Carolina, and she just made us all southern food growing up.
Wow.
Fried chicken, biscuits, mac and cheese, rice and gravy, collards.
Wow.
So we ate that food growing up all the time.
And she.
kind of I learned some of the recipe from her and then we've kind of adjusted and perfected it to kind of what we do.
But it's a classic.
I mean, not some people find it controversial, you know what I mean?
It's a classic, uh, southern-style baked mac and cheese, so it's got creaminess with a crispy top.
That's why, like, I know some people are anti-crispy top, some people uh prefer just straight creamy, and I say, you do you, you know what I mean?
Yeah, I don't understand that.
I don't think there needs to be a schism here.
I think there's room for both.
That's a problem with this country today, guys.
Schism, good tool outward.
Oh, great.
I love that.
I love,
it's one of my favorite songs to play on the bass guitar.
Classic bass riff.
Oh, yeah.
Justin Chancellor, one of the great bass players.
What's your hand fun bringing it all around?
When we first met in Reseda, California
at the parking lot, we were standing right by Adam Jones, guitarist of Tool.
That's right, a regular.
That's where I met him.
Shout out to Adam.
What were you going to say?
No, I was going to ask, what's the cheese blend you do?
Usually just like a mix of cheddar, maybe a little bit of Monterey, maybe a little parm, but yeah, I keep it simple.
I think a lot of stuff with cooking is a lot.
Keep it simple and fresh ingredients is kind of my mantra with cooking.
Tool, big, big comedy fans,
I think they were like, with Bob and David, they went to tapings of it, but I think they were in Mr.
Show, like in the audience of Mr.
Show.
The Maynard, I think, is canceled.
I think he got in trouble.
But
the song Enema is about, it's that Bill Hicks bit about Arizona Bay.
That's right.
Just, just some, I want to toss out some knowledge.
R.I.P.
Bill Hicks.
Mitch knows facts.
You know, one of my favorite things about Mitch that I I appreciate is Mitch knows facts.
Mitch does know facts.
I do know facts.
You know facts.
You guys out there, you don't think I know facts.
I know a lot of fucking acts.
He does
quite a few facts.
Fucking pay attention sometimes.
I'm not wrong every single time.
So, so what?
By the way, I just want to say, if you thought my Thanksgiving sounded really depressing, I wish you could have gotten a window into what Wigs was doing at that exact moment.
Playing a video game while Natalie's in the other room.
I think that was a note on Sunday, so I can't reach out.
Pretty much my default day, day at home playing video games all now.
Thanksgiving, you don't usually do too much, right?
No, we don't do it.
We don't do it.
You don't do a Thanksgiving dinner ever.
We'll sometimes make something for the two of us, but we decided a while ago because all of our family is in Southern California.
So like, it's just like...
Every single occasion, everyone is right there.
And so we decided we're going to take this holiday and just have this be for us.
So we just kind of do our own thing.
And we usually will make a dinner or maybe we'll get some food out or whatever.
When do you see the family?
Christmas or like a
bunch of other days.
Like, people got birthdays and shit.
I just saw my family.
What do you want?
I know.
I love your family.
I text with your dad all the time and your mom.
Yeah.
Yes.
Wait, I didn't.
I'm remembering something.
My brother, my alpha brother, Nate,
he got a new job with a, he works at the tech industry.
He got a new job at a startup called Pipe.
And I saw him.
I know, this is the thing.
I saw him.
You're laying that pipe?
This is the thing.
I saw him at Christmas and he's like, hey,
you'll figure it out.
But I don't know.
I thought there could be something with like laying pipe or like smoking pipe or something like like that.
I was like, I don't know.
I was like, Yeah, it's pretty good.
The guy's an alpha, man.
He's the man.
Always got to be an alpha brother.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Peyton and Eli.
I'm an Eli.
You're an Eli?
Definitely an Eli dog.
I do me.
Hey.
Nothing wrong with
Eli does.
Hey, Eli, hey, Eli
twice.
God damn it.
Yeah, Peyton.
Peyton has the big voice, but Eli, Eli does him.
Yeah.
Sorry.
I took that out on God.
It's not his fault.
Not his fault.
I mean, at least the Pats are are doing not good this season, actually.
They're very, but our quarterback is
quarterback is decent.
Drake May.
And you're a Hawks fan.
I'm a Hawks fan.
Falcons, Braves.
Look, this is dated, but maybe they won the NBA Cup.
It's a possibility, Rob.
If the Falcons won
anything in the NFL, it would be good.
If the Hawks won the Emirates NBA Cup, I would be so excited because the Hawks are my favorite team and Emirates is my favorite airline.
Anyone from Emirates is listening right now.
I'm an Emirates Silver member.
Wow.
My family is a huge Emirates family.
We use Emirates to fly to India regularly.
Best way to fly to India, straight through Dubai, Emirates.
The service is excellent.
Wow.
Please, Emirates, show me some love.
They don't fly.
Do they fly in the United States or no?
No, mostly just like out.
Okay.
Yeah.
I've never, I've never
flown that.
I went to
an Emirates NBA Cup game.
Wow.
The Los Angeles Lakers
were playing the Utah Jazz, and I have an Emirates hat that I got from Emirates because I fly Emirates.
And it's just a hat that says Fly Emirates, but it is a red cap.
And I did go to this game the week after the election.
So I did feel a little hesitant about doing it, but fuck it, we ball.
What's up, Emirates?
I repped it.
I repped it.
I repped it.
I thought, I was, I thought.
I was confused.
I thought the United Emirates,
I thought that it was.
It's not for the country.
The country did not.
It's not that the country
sponsored the cup.
It's like how there's American Airlines.
Emirates' hub is Dubai.
And then
if you go to UAE, you fly Qatar Airways, which Qatar Airways also excellent.
Shout out to Qatar Airways.
The business class lounge in Doha, phenomenal.
If you're ever flying through Doha, throw a little extra money to get that business class lounge.
If you have a long layover, it's totally worth it.
One of the most beautiful airport lounges in the world.
world.
Wow.
Quitar is a cool country just because it sounds like guitar.
It does sound cool.
Yeah, that is cool.
That's pretty cool.
Also, I got a Qatar Hero.
It's a new video game.
Why do you spoil it?
I got a red Wayne Gretzky Vineyard sweatshirt up in Canada that I like a lot.
Oh, that's classic.
And now.
You were sipping that Gretzky?
I was sipping the Gretzky, and now he supported Trump.
So now I'm like,
now it feels like, you know, if you wear it, I don't know.
I'm probably still.
I don't think anyone.
It's also Canadian.
Yeah,
I think everyone's going to be over it at this point.
That's my prediction.
I think in 2025, I think we're all going over it.
Okay, all right.
Maybe we're over it.
The sun is setting on this beautiful country.
This is the thing of like marketing.
I'm always like hyper-conscious of when marketing works on me.
And so because Emirates sponsored the NBA Cup, I'm like, it's the first thing that put Emirates Airlines on my radar at all.
And so, and then so I find myself looking at the Emirates as the Emirates website and be like, they have a pretty good sign-up bonus for the credit card.
It's not bad.
Not that I even have a reason for it.
It's a very Western thing because an Emirates is like one of the biggest sponsors of soccer and football in Europe.
You know, they're probably some of the biggest teams have Emirates sponsorships.
So in Europe, they have a great awareness.
I know Mitch doesn't like Europeans, but I had a
Italians.
I do a roofer.
The Mercedes-Benz Stadiums is great.
And Mr.
Blank man, Arthur Blank, is that who is that who's?
Yeah, yeah, Mr.
Blank.
Yep.
He's Mr.
Blank.
He owns Home Depot.
He's like one of the
owner of the Falcons Falcons and the Mercedes-Men Stadium in Atlanta GA.
He seems like one of the better owners.
They keep the prices cheap in that stadium.
Yeah, it's good prices.
State Farm Arena, right?
State Farm Arena.
It used to be Phillips Arena.
It's all down there in Centennial Olympic Park.
I was just down there.
I went to a WWE pay-per-view down there with my buddies.
Fun.
And I just love, you know, it's a different world down there, man.
You know, you go get a beer.
It's, you know,
10 bucks, not 20 bucks.
You know what I mean?
The food, I mean, here we talk about this a lot me and me and wiger because we both are very fortunate we live out here we're huge basketball fans and we we have the access to go to lakers games and and previously clippers games there and the state of food services in crypto.com arenas is is a travesty i characterize it as dire it's dire yeah all the food is is mid and isn't there a doritos restaurant there is a doritos restaurant
it's not good yeah and all the food's expensive like i bought like a hot dog fries
and
a beer.
Where do you think I'm paying, Mitch?
Just not out of context, but where do you think I'm paying?
I mean, I'm going to go high, and I'm going to guess $30.
$50.
$50.
Meanwhile, down at State Farmer Union Atlanta, you have reasonable prices.
You have good food.
You have Antico Pizza, one of the best pizzerias in Atlanta.
Celine pies there.
I love it.
Problematic, but you do have Chick-fil-A.
You can grab some tenders, grab a sandwich.
Which is in the Mercedes-Benz Stadium, which is funny because football games usually on Sunday.
So Chick-fil-A.
So they're not a loophole on them yeah yeah a little loophole but they're not open
oh that's airport too the airport's the same way too yeah but you know that's how god intended it wow uh but yeah i don't know i just wish that you know all these big and then you know i i haven't been to intuit dome yet me neither going soon but from what i've heard is is is the food is trash there and and it's all the same kind and it's like i think these these big tech ceo people these venture capitalists fucking investment bank people are are cheaping out on the food and not thinking about the fan experience.
I agree.
We want recognizable brands and we want convenience and we want fair prices.
And we don't want a like a fucking, like, like it's just like, oh, it's all on an app that scans your face.
And so everything seems like, like, that's not what we want.
We want to, like, be able to walk around.
It's like, oh, barbecue.
And it's like, it's like a nice local barbecue restaurant or something.
That's what most other places.
I love it.
MSG, you can get
fuku tenders.
I love fuku.
David Chang.
Shout out to David Chang.
The homie.
I love his fuku tenders.
They had those at MSG for a while.
I mean, yeah, other places you can get.
I was up in Seattle.
I went to, I believe it's called Climate Pledge Arena up in Seattle.
Get Seattle a fucking basketball team.
That arena's dope, dude.
Just like awesome food, local food, local breweries, and just like, I don't know.
It's a shame that.
The team's not doing well either.
Yeah.
And well, you know what else is
that?
Oh, no, no.
I was saying, I'm I'm saying it's a shame with the food at crypto.
And I was saying, the team's not doing that good either.
No, they're not.
Crypto, Celtics are doing pretty good.
And you know what?
The food there is pretty good, too.
Actually, food of the Celtics.
You know what?
You know what?
Garden is okay.
It's appreciation day.
Let him get Appreciation Day.
Congrats on your world champion.
Boston Celtics.
Yeah, we found out some information about the Boston Celtics.
I don't think we can say it, but there's something interesting about where we are with the Boston Celtics.
We won't get into it.
We got to talk about the restaurant.
We have to talk about handles.
We haven't talked about handles.
Okay, let's just, real quick, guys, guys, I would like to, before we dig into handles, can we just zoom out a little
and talk about ice cream in America?
Because I feel like, much like coffee, we have no time to talk about ice cream in America.
We got to pull back, brother.
You know, I'm the king of context.
We've got to pull back.
Yeah.
So you got to, I feel like we've kind of gone through a couple of stages and fads, kind of periods.
We were talking about this.
Yeah, you had like kind of like in the 90s was kind of classic ice cream dryers or EDs.
Yeah, it was like, it was less of a parlor thing.
It was more of like a, here's a grocery store thing.
Yeah, this is a freeze.
This Robins, maybe some fun flavors like cookies and cream or Bralins and cream.
Yes, if there were, if there was ice cream that you were going out, it was easy to do.
Make chocolate chip is an exciting flavor.
Exactly.
Cookie dough.
I remember that being invented.
Like that was like a new thing that came out.
I know you and I talk about remembering when we remember when chocolate chip cookie dough was invented.
We were outside for that.
I mean, someone's going to correct us and be like, it was actually invented in 1960, but I remember when it was like at least
we could be nicer guys.
But here's what I'm saying.
And then you went to the kind of Coldstone era.
Right.
You know what I mean?
Coldstone.
I had a boy back home.
There was a marble slab in Columbia that was a Coldstone
analogist restaurant.
So the homie would hook it up.
But where you got all the fixins and the toppings.
And like, I kind of never really loved that in retrospect.
I feel like it was just like a bunch of toppings and melted ice cream.
It's not like the most quality, well, like highest quality cream because the cream is a means to end and it's a binder for all of these various toppings you want to throw in there.
And it itself is kind of a derivative of the
like a next beat but a derivative of the frozen yogurt that was the next stage yeah you had your frozen yogurt i remember i really learned when i moved to la
in for the first time in like 2010 pinkberry was like the spot yes pinkberry was the spot and then i remember like five years later like frozen yogurt opened and my mom was like they opened frozen yogurt down here it's pretty neat and it's like oh that's how trends escalate through the country.
So we had frozen yogurt when I was a kid in SoCal, but it was a different tier.
It was TCBY, TCBY, penguins, you know, and so Pinkberry comes out and it's like the evolution of that.
And it's like, oh, the toppings are fresher.
It's a little bit of a higher quality pressure.
People may not remember.
It used to be like, oh, this is just the tart yogurt.
They had one flavor.
And then it just evolved into being ice cream.
Right, right.
And then the,
you know, and then you obviously get like the menchies and the yogurt lands where it's like the self-serve.
Like frozen yogurt is its own category.
But yes, you were correct that ice cream has kind of gone through like...
Now we're in the premium.
We're in the premium/slash.
Jenny's.
Yeah,
we're in the gentrification of the ice cream parlor.
That's the one.
Gentrification, Jenny's.
Whereas it used to be like you'd go to like the like thrifty write-a-drugstore and like get some from behind the counter, Baskin-Robbins.
Yeah.
And so like handles is interesting because it is a throwback, but I also think the quality of product is on par with the more artisan, like higher.
Well,
I think the key there is that they are making the ice creams in-house.
Yes.
I feel like that's a noticeable thing between ice cream places is made in-house, I think you're getting a better texture and probably a better flavor.
The best places I like in LA are the places that are making them in-house.
Yeah, which do they have a back of the shop where they do?
And the one at the Culver City location, which I went to a couple of times, that one has a very large footprint.
Like you look at the storefront, like they've got like the amount of space they have allocated for their ice cream is like, you know, they get a whole back area where they're doing stuff.
Remember that Good Friday song on Kanye and they say ice cream paint job, something like Briars.
They shut out Briars on that song.
Cool.
You don't you don't remember this.
It's a good song, Good Friday.
Yeah, Briars and Dryers are able to coexist because they're just proper names.
Yep.
How about that?
Because like it's like a sort of thing.
Yeah, yeah.
You had NYX and Ricks.
Exactly.
Yeah.
If you made Nick's fish tacos, right.
And then if Rick's tried to sue me and be like, hey, you're just ripping off Rick's with Nick's and trying to create brand confusion.
I'd be like, well, it's my name.
What am I supposed to do?
And then they're like, oh, yeah.
Also, your tacos suck.
Yeah, it's like
I pulled up to Handles.
I went there last night, but I pull up today at 2 p.m.
We didn't know what was going on.
I got out of a dentist appointment, it's cleaning.
Mitch goes to the dentist.
He was like,
You're trying to say that I was gonna
remember that viral video.
That was good.
I wasn't driving home from the dentist, fucked up.
It was just a cleaning today.
Dr.
Toonzie, the man, loved Dr.
Toonzie.
I've recommended him to Anya.
Anya goes to Dr.
Toonzie now.
No cavities.
Yeah.
But then it was funny to go from my dentist.
I pulled back down to my place, sat there for 10 minutes.
You were having lunch with Libby.
You were on your way.
Buddy, Libby Watson, yeah.
You were on your way to Handel's.
And so I was like, I'm just going to go to Handel's ice cream, which is the funny thing to go to after your dentist appointment.
Right.
It's like a little kid's dream to go and get ice cream after the dentist, I guess.
It's disgusting.
I just had my teeth cleaned.
I didn't really want to do it.
But I pull up there.
It's not like you're eating like popcorn or something.
It's true.
That's very true.
But I pull up there.
You guys are there, and then also a surprise guest.
Yes, so
here's how it happened.
So, uh, so Libby and I had a little, uh, had a little lunch.
We walked over.
I asked her if we wanted, she wanted to get uh joint for ice cream.
She was like, uh, yes.
Uh, she said, she said, like, oh, that would be quite corking, whatever she would sort of say.
She had some cute Britishism.
Um, we walked over and uh, and we waited.
Uh, oh, we got there.
We passed Anise on the way.
Anise was going to get a coffee.
Gotta go to Quick Espresso.
We get there, and I take out my phone just to take a picture of Handles, the parlor.
And I noticed in my frame is Susser.
Susser's just there.
So Susser's already there.
Which, by the way, he didn't, he walked there, so he must have been on a walk.
And I said this.
He didn't even know about us going to this place
about 15 minutes before we got there.
Yes, yeah.
So I don't know.
He acted so quick.
What were you going to say, Anise?
Well, I was going to say the timing is crazy because when I was walking towards Go Get Him Tiger to get an espresso, I walked by Handles and no one was there.
He wasn't there, yeah.
And then you guys converged at Handles at like the exact same time.
It was a mitzvah.
Really was.
How did he do it?
This is a cheetahs across the street.
I have no idea where the fuck is.
Wait, didn't he have all that cash?
A bunch of singles.
He did have cash when we had a tip.
A bunch of craft singles.
He tries to give them to the stripper.
She's like, no.
Even Fusser goes to shrimp books during the day and throws cheese at women.
His wife knows it's fine.
We'll maybe edit this out, but I said,
I was telling Libby that Bug Bane got thrown out of Cheetah's.
And then
Susser and I came over and I was like, you heard that Bug Bane got thrown out of Cheetah's?
And Susser goes, again?
Oh, God.
I don't think we have to leave.
That's funny enough.
Mitch got thrown out of that fat burger around the corner.
It's a good fat burger.
It's a plastic.
That used to be one of the things.
I mean, it's a ratty looking fat burger.
I think it's fallen off.
For a while, it was like, oh, that was like a late night.
Yes, 100%.
Yeah.
I don't know how, I don't know how popular.
I love, we love fat burger.
I love fat burger.
Look, I went to this place last night.
I was there to pull.
I was America's Cream Here since 1945.
I got there.
There's this fight going on.
Susser's there.
It was just complete chaos.
It was fucking chaos.
Kind of different from my experience last night, but my experience last night, I went there.
You guys are hyping up this plate.
You show me your ice cream sampler.
It's huge.
Yeah.
So I say, I can't, I said, to give context, he went to a different handles and got that.
This is the issue.
And I did mention this yesterday.
The handles on the east side does close at 10.
You're pulling up at like 9.30.
I was pulling up at 9.30, which is not great.
It's not bad, but just context.
I got a hurricane.
The hurricane.
there was a bit of a debacle, it wasn't working.
You got to change it to another ice cream cup.
I was like, my, and then when I saw the amount in there, which didn't matter because I didn't eat all of it, there wasn't a ton in there.
You guys were getting huge portions, my portions were small, and a medium cup, maybe.
Yeah, and then I got a small, so it was a smaller and a small cup, but also you saw the small I got today.
It was to the top, it was to the top.
Mine was overflowing.
And so, and also, I couldn't tip on the card.
I had to use cash, so a lot of different things.
But look, it didn't matter.
When I went home and and I had the orange cream, which you recommended, orange cream dream, orange cream dream, but it was actually
dreaming.
Dream cream, yeah, orange dream cream, ODC, one of their one of their more unique original flavors.
I got a sampler, so I'll just, I'll just tell you what I got the uh it was the it's the Midnight Madness.
Uh, oh, I had that today, Midnight Madness was very, very good.
I like it.
Read the toppings on that.
It's kind of an interesting mix.
Midnight Madness is a decadent
decadent dark chocolate ice cream rippled with Reese's peanut butter and stuffed full of peanut butter Oreos.
Really nice.
Sounds great.
It was great.
Really nice.
That was one of the four of my sampler wages.
I also got the strawberry cheesecake, which I liked quite a bit.
I got the...
What was the dough one that has the brownie dough?
Oh, dough.
Oh, no brownie.
I did brownie dough.
Oh, brownie dough.
So which is brownie and cookie dough and the orange cream dream and the, like I said, the strawberry cheesecake.
That was the sampler.
And then I also got the hurricane with Reese's peanut butter cup.
The hurricane I thought was good.
It was tasty.
It was wise.
I think.
How would you compare it to a Blizz?
I think it's very well done.
I don't know.
I don't think I've been.
I mean, you're probably getting better ice cream in the Blizzard.
If you did side by side, I think that I maybe like the Blizzard better, but I think that the quality here is very good.
That's what I was going to say.
I would maybe go the other way, which I think maybe like the mix-ins, you're getting a larger volume of mix-ins at the Blizzard, but I maybe like the viscosity and flavor of
the ice cream a little bit more.
I don't know if you've gotten a blizzard recently, but the inflation on blizzards is pretty rough.
It's been a while.
So it's not like you're going to get a
$3.99 Blizzard, and then this is like five or six bucks.
I think the base small blizzard you can get is like $6 to $7.
And we were talking like this fucking country.
I'd say.
It's better now.
Back in my day, you could get a blizzard for $3.99 and they'd hold it upside down.
So we talked about that.
You obviously get the prestige of them turning the ice cream upside down into a blizzard.
You were saying, and I agree with you, Natalie had the same thought.
I don't think you could do that with a hurricane.
I think that's something to it.
That's a good thing to do its credit.
I agree.
I like it.
More drinkable.
But I think that's a good idea.
But you said viscosity, which is a gross way to talk about food, but you like the viscosity of it.
I do like the viscosity.
Okay, so
I made a couple of visits yesterday.
I went on my own.
I went twice yesterday.
I went twice yesterday.
Once for lunch after a workout, and I was pretty hungry, and I got a...
You didn't really brag about the workout when you went to get ice cream.
I'm just saying, like,
I had an appetite, and that context is important.
That context is important.
I had a big appetite because the medium waffle cone I got, the guy described it to me, said it's four and a half scoops of ice cream.
So a medium is 4.5 scoops.
It's a lot of cream.
Sir, it's four and a half scoops of ice cream.
You probably want the large.
I see how your thighs are vibrating post-workout.
It's split into, so you, but the medium, you get two flavors as opposed to the small.
uh the flavors I got were two recommendations from the the the worker there confetti brownie batter which is kind of like a uh a a a a birthday flavor but with a chocolate i love that that's a classic i will say i was shitting on cold stones earlier a little they were to my knowledge the first people that had cake batter is like a really go-to flavor they really
they really were were playing were popularizing birthday flavor for sure and they also had the grand the graham central station which i loved i thought was delightful i think that's a great flavor and also the name storky enough that he also would love it.
Also, the name of a great funk brand, one of my favorite funk bands, led by the great Larry Graham, as many of you know, the inventor of Slat Bass and the uncle of Drake, the pedophile.
Wait, is that really?
Is that really what the band is called?
Graham Centralization?
Wow.
How about that?
Check them out.
Here's a roll.
Music knowledge.
That's my fact zone.
The Graham Central is a Graham crackery plus with some chocolatey clusters.
I thought it was delicious.
I really like the Cavetti Brownie batter as well, although chocolate ice cream in general,
I'm less keen on.
I usually like chocolate mixins with a different sort of base, but I think this is good execution.
The only negative I will say is the medium waffle cone I got.
The waffle cone itself was not particularly notable, and I don't think it's made fresh in-house.
I mean, can be because if they're making them fresh, you're getting that nose.
Yeah, and we were not getting that smell at all.
That's like, I mean, I mean, just comparatively, like if you go into a salt and straw,
like that's part of the salt and straw experience.
You're going in, you're getting that.
cone nose.
Yes, 100%.
Try to get them lifts.
Yeah, that aroma is omnipresent.
but so i like as as far as return visits i was like i don't need to get a cone again and in fact i'll be going back to handles but i'm never gonna get a cone because i wouldn't
get a cone you're you're going cone free you're going cone free because the i the the the cream is the star uh now can i ask you a question they also have a sugar cone what do we think of sugar cones i don't need them oh they're kind of just tastes like styrofoam i don't need them i want like a fresh waffle cone or i want a bowl or a dish i also just like a cup because of mess factor cup definitely i'm i'm very messy be a messy jesse yeah i'm trying to find the ice cream I got today, which is hard, by the way.
Let me know because I have a photo of the receipt if you need help.
So I also got Nellie and I went back.
She went for the first time.
She got the four scoop sampler, which I think is the move because they have a daunting number of flavors.
Great offering.
And I'd say a huge bit of context is a standard scoop is about $5 to $6.
Comparatively to a lot of places, you're getting basically like a double, hefty double scoop.
100%.
So a a single, you're getting like two big scoops of one flavor.
If you get the sampler, which I believe is $7.95, you can try four flavors, which with the huge, I believe it's over 40 flavors.
You want to do that.
I think it's the move.
And it's in a little plastic little thing.
It's fun.
So she got a banana cream pie, blueberry cobbler, pomegranate sorbet, and Buckeye, which is their peanut butter ice cream with a chocolate swirl and peanut butter-filled Buckeye pieces.
She said that one was very good.
I didn't try that one, but the other ones I tried, banana cream pie was delicious.
And the blueberry cobbler is very good as well.
I kind of an overall thought on this place is
I kind of like the non-chocolate flavors more than the chocolate flavors.
I would say
the chocolate, I agree with that with the exception of that,
whatchamacallit, that we had, the, the Mitch, the one we got with the dark chocolate.
Yes, that was fantastic.
That one was really good.
Wait,
the Midnight Madness?
Midnight Madness.
Thank you.
Yeah.
That was the one chocolate one that impressed me.
Otherwise, I'm kind of with you.
And speaking of chocolate, I also got a Blue Monster, which is the the public domain version of the cookie monster one we talked about earlier it is blue vanilla ice cream with oreo chunks and chips i mean that's just a great flavor i know i know i kind of just want to yeah clarify the afters context but if i see that flavor i am going to grab it i thought it was delightful i thought it was a lot of fun and uh you know i just got a small scoop and a cup but it was it was more than enough it's still a huge huge amount of ice cream green monster guy unfortunately i like the red socks their wall yeah so blue monster i passed on i i think you would like this flavor no no thank you i think you'd like it.
I think you'd like it.
No, I don't think so.
I don't know.
Oreo chunks, Chips of Hoy chunks, vanilla ice cream.
I passed you on Green Monster on Blue, which is fun.
You voted Blue.
You're wearing blue.
That's true.
Sometimes you get blue.
Still, I'm a green man.
Your favorite character in the Jurassic World series is Blue, the Velociraptor.
That is not true.
Yeah, it is, dog.
When Chris Pratt, as Owen Grady, went up to him and went, You're my boy, Blue.
You were cheering up, dog.
You were tearing up.
Blue is his boy.
Blue is his boy.
Bratt and I are boys.
Hashtag tomorrow fam.
And also meet with me, too.
Hashtag Parks and Rec Adams.
Parks and Rec.
Look, I'm a green guy,
Kermit over all Muppets.
Wow.
Celtics.
Damn, Gonzo was feeling himself earlier.
Now he's in the mood.
I'm just telling you,
I didn't try it.
This is the issue.
I think you would have liked it.
Okay.
I also got a banana split hurricane.
And contrary to your experience, Mitch, this dude made the shit out of this hurricane.
It was like he was diffusing.
Surgical precision.
It was like he was diffusing.
the ball.
It was so good, by the way.
This guy, this guy was like, I had, just as we're talking games, I had the Reese's hurricane today with just some Reese's pieces in there.
Great.
Yeah, it was
what you want.
I watched him make it and he was meticulous and it was delicious.
It was so good.
And I would just say strictly better than a Blizzard in my experience.
I just, I just liked it more.
But, and then we went today.
And wait, did, wait, you had a previous experience.
So, so I wanted to go twice just to get, it seems like the the deal here is like, hey, we have a variety of fresh flavors.
So
I will say I went yesterday and just from context clues, I picked up that there was only one person working and it was one of the owners.
And shout out to him.
He gave me four samples.
Wow.
He gave me four samples.
When we pulled up today,
the woman who was helping us, who was fucking phenomenal, she
remember her name?
Maddie.
Maddie from Massachusetts.
Was she from Marshfield, did she say?
I forgot.
I still remember.
I think it was Marshfield.
Yeah, she was super nice with her.
But I was like,
Susser just tell her to give her my credits.
Because I was talking to her.
It was that funny thing where, like, I was talking to her, and then he was like, he's from Massachusetts.
I'm like, I know.
We already established it.
She was asking me about the Celtics hat.
And then he pointed to Mitch and, in the most low-enthusiasm voice, goes, he's an actor.
Yeah, he has.
Said he's an actor.
I was like, I know.
Also, like, trying to impress this person.
I don't know what he was trying to do here.
He was trying to build up.
Susser's an agent of chaos, dog.
He was trying to build it, I think.
He pauses a scene and spills ice cream all over.
I think he saw me talking to a woman that's trying to build up my confidence.
He's a messy bitch, like talking.
He was, he was, he was very messy.
As she was talking about her boyfriend, I think he was like, he's an actor.
I'm like, what do you do?
I don't know if you're, I don't know if he was trying to hype up my, I think he was trying to talk me up.
Well, you know, you know, this is there's a specific thing is that she he she was like, uh, my boyfriend is working right now on Fallout, the show Fallout.
And quality show?
Quality show.
And Susser goes, uh, Mitch is on a show with a similar premise called Twisted Metal.
It's also based on a video game.
He said it's also based on a video game and set in a post-apocalyptic world.
A very cool thing to say to a woman.
Anyways, she was doing her job and she was like two sample limit.
Yeah.
So that kind of bummed me out.
Maddie, I loved Maddie.
She was great.
Maddie was great.
She was just doing her job.
But I feel like
I don't mess with the sample.
I feel like, because a thing that happened that people, maybe younger listeners, may not remember is during the COVID-19 pandemic, one of the L's we took as a nation was samples went away.
Yes.
Samples went away and it was tough.
You're going in blind on ice cream, hard to try new flavors.
It was awesome when samples came back.
Yeah, yeah, hey.
Hugs are back.
Samples are back.
At Costco, too, which is,
oh, yeah, dude.
I stay at the Costco samples.
Yeah.
But so I could only try that many flavors.
So I'm glad I went the day before.
Yeah.
By the way, the heavenly hash is one of the, I didn't,
what's in that?
I don't know, but I didn't, I didn't.
I will say we couldn't.
I mean, it's, we, we did our best to cover these flavors.
Here's a couple that I tried.
Brownie dough, I believe Mitch talked about chocolate and villain ice cream layered with cookie dough and brownie pieces.
That was great.
The
Graham Central Station.
I ended up, I would say, the horchata.
If you love horchata and you love cinnamon, that was a good.
Also, I don't know if I'm looking at the straight menu.
They have a little cherry next to staff favorites.
Horchata is staff favorite.
Monkey Business is a staff favorite.
Like he said, that's basically Chunky Monkey.
And then I would say the best flavors I got in my experience for handles was: I want to shout out my friend Kylie.
I have a couple of people in my life
who I have a deep friendship with in life.
And one of the things we connect on is ice cream.
Wow.
You know what I mean?
My friend Kylie, my friend Jason, we're just always texting scoops.
Kylie, a big ice cream man, she went to Handles before me and she put me on orange cream dream or dream cream.
Yes.
And that was really good.
And then I am going to have to agree with you, Nick.
Banana cream pie, staff favorite.
It's the first thing on the menu alphabetically.
I got a full scoop of that.
It was excellent.
As a southern person, one of my favorite desserts is banana pudding.
It very much evokes a grenade banana pudding.
And I would say, too, trying
ice creams in various places.
Banana is a tough flavor to nail.
Sometimes you kind of enter this
artificial banana flavor.
And yeah, I tried a couple of banana flavors at Handles.
Uh,
gotta get a stretch on.
Uh, I tried a couple of they were all really good.
Yeah, and all I'm gonna put on a sweatshirt and Jemmy left.
I put my coat on, my sweatshirt on.
I think she thought we were leaving.
She's like, I'm out.
I'm making moves.
Uh-oh, whack, whack, whack.
Uh, I'll say, too, my initial impression, too, I like the branding of it.
And, and I think this is kind of getting a little regional, but in LA and kind of starting to trickle throughout
the world, you know, they just, like I said, my context with Pinkberry opening in North Carolina.
They just opened a Jenny's by
my parents' house in North Carolina.
And I feel like in LA specifically, the ice cream scene was a lot of like, you know, you have Jenny's, you have those salt and straw,
a lot of different places.
I love, you know, I'm a big soft serve fan.
That place I went to as a kid, Dairy Dream, they did soft serve.
So I was like, Magpies is a local chain.
They have a lot of fun soft serve.
But it's a lot of like flavors with like balsamic vinegar and goat goat cheese and vegan
and like rose water, like so much, too much rosewater ice cream out there, guys.
I don't really fuck with rose water.
This was like a classic American ice cream part.
You can still get a tartar flavor.
You get a matcha flavor.
They have a few of those, but they have also, I was playfully roasting vegan flavors.
They do have a vegan and dairy-free, fat-free, no-sugar menu, chocolate almond milk, mango sorbet, mixed berry sorbet, strawberry, and watermelon ice.
I bet those are, I bet those slap.
I would love to go back and try those.
The pomegranate sorbet Nelly got was quite good.
I didn't do any,
the only flavor I got that was even, I like the strawberry cheesecake flavor a lot.
I was on the brownie dough, I was like so-so on it.
Is this, was this today's experience?
No, this is last night.
This is last night's day.
How would it compare to, because this was another flavor that I would say for a while was my favorite ice cream flavor was the Ben and Jerry's brownie batter.
Oh, yeah.
Or I believe Ben and Jerry's was the first one to swirl in brownie batter like that.
And that was a revelation.
And I would, I would crush pints of that as a kid.
So here's my thought on this.
I mean, look, we have to get, we have to, we have to get to our final thoughts here.
Well, we still have to talk about what we got today.
Oh, yeah.
I'll tell you what I got today.
I got, I pulled up and I was like, I should get another sampler platter or try stuff.
I went with for a brownie sundae, Wigs.
I, I, I, a hot, a hot brownie sundae.
It's a big, it's a big section on the menu.
Someone had to cover it.
You got to.
So I.
Do you have a photo of that?
We can maybe throw it.
You got a photo of me holding it.
I had to step up to the plate and get a brownie Sunday, warm brownie.
This is my first meal of the day.
After having hands in your mouth for 90 minutes.
That is right.
After getting clack worked off my teeth.
Just scraping.
And I got.
Just a chaotic life.
Just go to the dentist, then you go straight to an ice cream parlor to eat your first calories of the day.
And then you go to record a podcast for two hours.
And then we're going to go get dinner.
Yeah.
You and i uh for the podcast for the podcast uh i got
mud pie which has uh
uh it's a thing about ooh thing about ooh has a little espresso ice cream with fudge and that was fun yeah that was fun i liked it you did yeah i did i don't think you did i liked it it's mitch appreciation day
I got the Mud Pie espresso ice cream with fudge and oreos.
And then I also got a Rocky Road, kind of a classic on there.
Classic.
I love that.
To your point, I like that they just have the classic flavors.
You can just get Rocky Road there.
You can just get coffee.
The mud pie was...
None of their interesting flavors are going too less.
No.
Yeah.
The mud pie was great.
I really like the mud pie.
Rocky Road, I like, but it was as good as a Rocky Road can be.
The brownie all together was fantastic.
I really liked this.
Was there brownie?
Were there nuts in there?
There was no nuts in the brownie.
It was a nice, warm brownie, though.
They heated the brownie.
Good whipped cream.
The good whipped cream, good hot fudge, cherry on top.
It was very, very good.
A good, good Sunday.
It was very well done.
It just was kind of old school classic Sunday.
I liked it a lot, Wigs.
I have a thought.
Maybe I'll talk about it at the wrap-up.
I also got, I got this shake, a milkshake.
That handle branding in there.
Which was...
I love a shake.
Half coffee, half chocolate.
We both were a little mixed on the shake.
I thought it was a good, it was a good execution, but it knocked my socks off.
What was the texture, initial texture like?
Because sometimes shakes, I feel like, like I like In-N-Out.
I like swinging in the In-N-Out.
Like,
just like swinging it in and out, grab a chocolate shake.
And I love their shakes, but the thickness, it's like, oh, I kind of had to let my shake chill a sec before I can get like, you do a consistent thing.
You want to take a little sip of three-hour old shake?
Right after you, Nam Shrey, man.
They were thick, a big straw.
I just.
It was pretty thick.
I think that it was.
It is.
I will say on the menu, it is described as thick, though.
Thick.
And then they have an extra thick version you can get.
So, like, but we did not get the thick shake.
And then they have something on the menu called Monster.
Yeah, the the monster with shake.
Who's doing that?
No one's doing a monster.
I mean, yeah.
Wax, what were you going to say about the shake?
I thought it was, the shake to me felt like it was there to check off a box.
Like,
we should have a shake because we're in an ice cream parlor, but it did not feel like, oh, I got to go to Handles for a shake.
You know what I mean?
So I loved it.
I love my Brownie Sandy.
Last night,
the hurricane was good.
I liked it.
I thought it was well done.
Even though, like I said, there there was a debacle getting it.
When I had the orange dream cream, I was like, this is great.
Now, this is great ice cream.
The brownie dough, I wasn't as on board with, but when I had the bite of the strawberry cheesecake, I thought that was great.
And then I forgot.
That's a hard flavor to do sometimes.
Sometimes the texture of the cheesecake and stuff isn't good.
And
there's like little pieces of like cheesecake in there.
And then the Midnight Madness was great.
Your apple pie is cream-wise.
So, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
We went today.
I got the Four Scoop Sampler.
The Four Scoop Sampler, I did get a coffee just a baseline.
It's my favorite ice cream flavors.
I just want to see how they did.
And you know what?
It was, it was great.
I thought the coffee on its own was better than the mocha simulacrum we made with the coffee chocolate hybrid in the shake.
O Dough, which I like the name of that one.
I was like, we just had to get that because we're the Dough Boys.
I mean,
handles if you hear this, you know, hit my boys up for a little cross branding right up the street.
The Odo Boy.
We'll be waiting.
Crickets.
Nothing ever happens.
O Dough, which is just
an ice cream with vanilla ice cream with uh Oreo pieces and then cookie dough pieces as opposed to
cookie dough like a little one notie to me.
Yes,
I would like oh dough
do you want me to do what I want to do, please?
Oh dough I thought that's like I thought that's how that's kind of what I was
I had I had a few bites and I was like oh dough
I took a bite and I didn't realize what flavor it was and I was like oh don't
homer when he busts too fast.
Like, oh,
oh, oh, oh.
Homie.
That's actually when
the police.
When the police find Mitch collapsed in his apartment after eating too much sugar, they say he owed over.
Odo was
delightful, but to me, the standouts were the deep dish apple pie, which I thought was delicious.
I thought it was so good.
And to your point about that, like, you know, tasting like the banana pudding dessert, it was the same sort of
this tastes.
I had a bite of that too.
I would say that was a standout flavor.
And absolutely delightful.
If we're just talking fun names, like I like that it's deep dish apple.
Deep dish apple pie is great.
Orange dream cream.
I'd heard about it from both of you.
I got it.
It's delicious.
Piny's buying it by the pint.
So fucking good.
So, so good.
I thought that those four scoops, that was like a Mount Rushmore of flavors.
I was so happy.
We also got a green tea.
It was kind of solid.
I didn't have the green tea.
Amelia had the green tea.
Emma, we got you a strawberry hurricane.
Yeah.
Which I didn't say also my nickname in high school was Hurricane Mitch on the football fan.
I told you guys that my football coach nickname me Hurricane Mitch.
And I also had a drink.
Was it because you showed resilience like Denzel Washington in the boxing film The Hurricane?
Which I loved that song, The Hurricane.
I was excited when that movie came out.
I thought the movie was just okay, but I was Hurricane Mitch before this happened.
Oh, okay.
Well, not before The Hurricane, but I was Hurricane Mitch in high school, and it was because Hurricane Mitch, maybe Hurricane Mitchell or Hurricane Mitch.
Yeah, that was a hurricane.
Was coming, was coming along.
And
also, I told you guys last night that was it a name that was like kind of making fun of me.
Yes,
you weren't making a hurricane on the Olong.
No, no, I was not making a difference at all, but Coach Carter was nice.
Coach Carter and Coach Griggs were funny.
They called me Hurricane Mitch.
And I also made a drink, The Hurricane Mitch, which was Captain Morgan's and Orange Juice, which I called the Hurricane Mitch.
Wait, isn't Coach?
Wait, so Hurricane, that's a movie.
Wasn't Coach Carter?
Coach Carter a different
movie than Mill Jackson.
Oh, he coaches a basketball team.
Yeah, yeah.
Great film.
But I had a coach.
One of the best sports films, Coach Carter.
Wow.
I had a Coach Carter.
Coach Carter was a good person.
Like a young Shanning Tatum's in there.
Okay.
Good stuff.
Coach Carter and Chris, the guys who put me in the equipment locker, who I love.
Yes.
Yeah.
Anyway, I.
Must have been a big locker, damn.
It was a huge storage locker.
It was down on the field.
It was like a shipping container.
It was like a shipping container.
You showed it.
It was.
I showed it.
I showed you one of the storms.
It was a shipping container that's a chunk zone.
Oh, yeah.
That's where we
razzed the chunks.
That's where we haze the chunks.
You got to get a shipping container.
Emma, how was that hurricane?
It was really, really good.
I agree.
I think I would choose that over a blizzard.
I bet you're just getting better toppings.
Yeah.
Well, I got it.
So I got it with strawberries, which I think based on the history was fresh strawberries.
It looked like strawberry.
And it tasted like fresh strawberries.
And I love that texture of like a blended strawberry.
It was good.
Ice cream.
It was really good.
Yeah.
I definitely want to go try some of their more fruity
options when I go
back next time.
Again, those were the standouts for me.
Is there any flavors we missed?
I know Amelia got some as well when she'll be back shortly.
She got
mint chocolate chip, green tea.
That was a solid mint chocolate chip, a solid green tea.
I know.
She was a solid green guy.
We'll get her as well.
Interesting one.
I sampled that I thought was a unique flavor was uh french silk pie oh just chocolate butter fudge ice cream with graham crackle ripple and chips kind of like a kind of reminded me of like the the you know the burger king pie you can get and then the other one i remember now uh that amelia got this is i pointed out problematic but it's called chocolate chunk yeah chocolate chunk so so it is positive because it's representing chunks but chocolism is it's a serious thing no it's not a chunk of that you know what i mean call and it meant hey hey i know we're joking around here, but if anybody listening here is dealing with chalkaholism or someone in your life is dealing with chalkism, just call 1-800-Gambler
and someone will help you.
Wages was a chalkaholic for a while.
Yeah.
Now he's just addicted to sports betting.
Use code Doughboy on DraftKings.
Get your first three parlays for free.
When you were at your worst, when you're at your chalkaholic worst, it was pretty bad.
It was pretty bad.
Yeah.
You come in here and you're like, you'd offer to suck my dick for chocolate.
I was like, dude, don't.
That's no big deal.
I can get, there's just chocolate in the body.
Yeah.
And then you eat the chocolate, and you'd be like, I'm still down.
I'm like, what are you talking about?
And I was like, all right.
And then we go in the salted caramel.
That's a little less echoey bathroom.
It's true.
It's making a whole scene in there.
We go in, and Black's and I go in the bathroom together, and then all of a sudden you hear.
It's embarrassing.
And then you hear me go, oh, Joe.
Joe.
We have to get to our final thoughts.
We have to get to our final thoughts.
I like Amelia coming in, having no context, and then you guys just going, oh, Joe.
Oh, Joe.
Oh, Joe.
Anise,
how the podcast works, we're each going to go around.
We're going to give our final thoughts on the particular chain that we're discussing, Handles.
And the last flavor was brownie dough, but give it a score from zero to five forks.
You are our guest.
We'll begin with you.
Your thoughts, your fork score for handles.
Handles creamery i thought it was my first experience with it i was impressed i like the branding the service like i said a style of kind of a more classic traditional american ice cream i thought it had a good variety of flavors and i feel like i'll go back again i'm gonna drop four forks four forks very good score four forks good score what do you think spoon man
So this is the last thing I was going to talk about here.
You've been holding this out for a couple of hours.
A couple of hours.
This take.
When I I tried like the dark chocolate, the richer chocolates, I thought they were really good.
Yeah.
I thought
Midnight Madness.
I thought some of the lighter chocolates tasted a little bit more artificially kind of
not as good to me.
I was surprised that I did not like their brownie dough that much.
It felt just kind of like a weaker, maybe it's the cookie dough.
It's ironic because you did like the actual brownie that was
the brownie that was under the thing, but I'm saying that there was like something like, not saccharine, but there was just something that was like kind of like sweet, chemically, cheap tasting with some of the aspen.
That being said,
the orange cream dream is fantastic.
There's a lot of great flaccid, flaccid, there's a lot of great classic flavors, but
when you get flaccid, oh do
there's a lot of great classic flavors, but it happens to every guy, Mitch.
I know that it does because women always reassure me that it does happen to every guy.
Um,
When it comes to the classic stuff, I think it's really, I think that they do a really, really good job.
I like the vibe of the place.
If they had nailed a couple of those other flavors, I probably would go five forks.
It was leaning five for me after day one, but second time I kind of came down to earth.
Four and a half spoons.
Four and a half spoons.
Very good score.
You know, it's Mitch Appreciation Day here on the Doughboys podcast.
And also, this was not planned, but I think it's becoming Handel's Appreciation Day because
he has love handles that we all love to have.
He's a chunk.
We love him.
What the fuck?
This is it.
What the fuck?
We love to handle your love handles.
We need to get a hug.
I got him, too.
Hey.
Go on.
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
Let he who is without love handles cast the first stone.
Well said.
So anyway, a number of flavors is daunting.
There's a lot of them, but I think the flavors were all good.
And every single one I had, I enjoyed.
Some of them I thought were stellar.
And I love ice cream.
I'm a creamsman.
I'm a dairy dude.
Ice cream is my favorite dessert.
If I could only have one dessert, it would be ice cream.
I think this is a great parlor that both operates in the world of classic creamery and the modern, more contemporary world of experimentation and riffing on the flavors we know and love.
And I think for that reason,
I'm not going below five forks for handles.
This is a five-fork experience as far as I'm concerned.
Four and a half, five.
We got the ladder.
I didn't actually know you could do half things.
So I'm going to
redo to four and a half.
You're going four and a half.
You're direct control and a half.
We're in the hand holding club.
You know what we used to call that?
What was the ladder thing we used to say?
I think it was the ladder.
We called it the ladder club.
Stepping.
Dear step guys.
I don't know.
We have ballpark buds, which were also ballpark buds.
Ball bar or ball bar.
But most crucially, Handles is in the Golden Plate Club.
Welcome to the Golden Plate Club, Handles.
Well deserved.
Well deserved.
New kid on the block.
I was just,
I was going in here with an open mind.
I wasn't sure what to expect, and this place exceeded my expectations.
I thought it was.
It's a welcome addition to the Southern California ice cream.
One.
It's a new kid on the block, but very old, very old spot.
Shout out to Oppy.
I think that we can walk away.
Shout out to Oppy.
Yeah, shout out to Abby.
Shout out to Oppy.
I think that we can walk away.
I call him Robert Jay.
That's my guy.
I think that we played by Robert.
Oh, no, it wasn't played by Robert Downey Jr.
I was going to say played by Robert Downey, but it's not.
No, he played the Guther guy in that movie.
I think we can both walk away from this saying,
oh, Joe.
Oh.
I just like the idea of people listening to this and, you know, they're like, if they're in their cue, like, you know, the cubicle or something.
And it's like, if the mic gets on, you know, if their headphones get unplugged, he's just like, oh, like us making those noises.
I've had a Doughboys pop-out clip on my phone while I'm walking too loud.
Wow.
I think it happens to a lot of people.
The podcast is horrible and people shouldn't listen to it.
And then you just hear someone go, Yeah, I just shoved a bunch of cookies down my throat.
Like, I was sucking a cock.
I'm like, that's my friend.
Don't worry.
It's not a stranger saying that.
Someone I talk to and spend time with.
It's crazy that when Oppenheimer, you know, witnessed the carnage that was the result of his invention being, you know, foisted upon the world, he was said to have uttered, I have become death, destroyer of worlds.
Oh, dude.
Who's still horny?
Yeah.
I mean, he was horny.
He's very horny.
That's a big horny.
He's horny.
He's horny.
I love to fuck.
He definitely did a couple odos.
Hey, it's time for a segment.
Wow,
what a great experience at Handles.
I love it.
Shout out to Handles.
We've got a food stuff we're going to say if you should put it in your mouth.
It's Snack or Whack.
And hey, shout out to Amelia, who is walking in.
The Shackalicious XL Gummies.
Yes.
Can I get a rebranding on it for today?
Please.
Shack or whack.
Shack or whack it is.
Shack or whack it is.
Are we guys, guys?
Question for the hosts.
Yeah.
Are we shacking a fool?
I think we're shacking.
We might be shacking a fool.
We're shack to fool.
I think that's an intellectual property of Turner Media.
Yeah.
Shout out Turner Media, Atlanta Zone.
Hit me up.
How does Turner Media?
What are they going to hit you up with?
I don't know.
Maybe like invite me to inside.
Can I tell you a chain-related story really quick?
Please.
The best birthday I've ever had was my 22nd birthday in Atlanta.
I went to the Cheesecake Factory
on Peachtree in Buckhead with my girlfriend at the time for dinner.
I was sitting there having Cheesecake Factory.
I got a chicken and biscuits.
I got Oreo cheesecake, two of my favorite things.
And in the middle of my dinner, the entire cast of Inside the NBA walked in.
I'm talking Kenny the Jet Smith.
I'm talking Sir Charles Barkley.
I'm talking EJ Ernie and of course Big Shaq Diesel.
They all walked in.
They sat down.
They were kind of in a private area, but they're massive.
So their heads shoved above the chairs.
And then they sat down and immediately just plates of food.
Plates of food just started rushing to the table.
Best birthday ever.
There's no leftovers with those guys.
Oh, no leftovers.
Even at Cheesecake Factory.
No, no, it's not a Cheesecake.
NBA players love Cheesecake.
Was it just the four of them?
I think they had like a bro or two.
A couple
hangers on.
Maybe Underdog was there.
Wow.
For the real inside the NBA heads.
That's cooler than any celebrity setting ever.
I know, no.
I've seen Arnold Schwarzenegger, and that's better.
Yeah.
You're a young man because Shaq was there on your 20.
He was part of the NBA crew in the first place.
Yeah, his second birthday.
Yeah.
That's a young man.
Do you remember there was that period where people were like, hmm, I don't know if Shaq's fitting in.
And now, of course, he's an essential part of the crew.
But, you know, you got to see that.
I mean, Barkley's been real.
When Shaq fell down, when Shaq fell on the Christmas tree, that was one, two moments in my life I was blessed to be watching a live television broadcast.
The Oscars Moonlight.
Oh, yeah.
I had stopped watching the Oscars, went to In-N-Out, came back.
I'm like, I'll watch the end.
Saw that live.
I,
for whatever reason, immediately knew what was happening because when the guy came and whispered, I was like, oh, this is like if it was a pro wrestling story and they fucked up the award.
And then, of course, Sack falling over a Christmas tree, one of the all-time great
moments.
Two great moments.
I met
Shaq and Wack.
I met the La La Land producer who said, We lost, by the way.
I met him on the WJ picket lines.
Oh, very cool.
Yeah, yeah.
He was like, I don't like to talk about it.
And you know, you know who was 10 feet away from all that?
Our good buddy Jack Allison.
Oh, wow.
That's right.
He was writing for it.
Yep.
Okay, the Shack-Alicious XL Gummies.
Shack-alicious X-L gummies bring Shaquille O'Neal's big personality to life in each tasty bite.
Amelia, thank you for picking these up.
I know you had to make a couple of trips.
While we're cracking into these bad boys,
what were your thoughts on handles?
Yeah, yeah, a couple different ladies.
I'm so sorry.
I went to a couple grocery stores,
but we got the goods.
Yeah, because one of them had sour stuff going on.
Yeah, they were sold out of the non-sour, so I had to make another trip.
I really enjoyed handles, handels, handles, handles.
I think it's handle.
Actually, I should have gotten the guy from Veep on that show, and you could have had handels with Dave Mandels.
That would have been fun.
I think it's more fun to have you, though.
I would rather be Dave Mandel, the guy who worked on Seinfeld and has a lot of money.
My shows were on streaming.
I didn't get residuals.
I got the four scoop sampler.
Yeah.
Was really impressed with every flavor.
The mint chocolate chip had that thing that you were just talking about, Mitch, where there was some sort of aspartame-iness to it, but it was very slight and it didn't ruin it for me.
Green tea, some of the one of the better green tea ice creams I've ever had.
Wow.
Yeah.
Wow.
Usong would be in Hog Heaven.
Yeah, he would.
Rest in Power.
Rest in Power Usong, the ghost of Usong.
That dude died.
Rating, I would probably give it five stars five stars five stars five stars
i keep doing this
i've worked on our podcast for years you still don't know the show it's great amelia i'm gonna need you to take your things and also return the cat today
so these are these are these are big gummies these are these these some bitches are huge also these are i want to say this do you know like when like they make a statue of someone like it's a really bad statue that's what shaq's face looks like on each of those i was not great like at the unveiling the unveiling of Shaq's statue at previously discussed crypto.com.
Wow.
Which was super sick because they had a whole festival, like carnival outside the arena.
It was called like Shaq Fest, and they had all his trophies and shit out there.
But yeah, there's two skews here.
There's this one that looks like his head.
And then if you can read the back of this one, Mitch, there's three different shapes.
Diesel, which is a truck.
They call him Shaq Diesel.
The big cactus, like Shaq, Shakis.
And then the Big Shamrock, which he was
his Celtic role.
Which I think he even makes, he even gives a hard time to his time in the Celtics.
This is very funny, Brennan.
Here's my thing with the main gummies.
They're almost, the consistency is almost like Swedish fish instead of a gummy.
They are.
One is
the heads are like Swedish fish, and then the other ones are kind of a SPK Sarapatch Kid.
I wonder if, like, to get to the size and form factor, if they have to alter the texture a little bit to keep them to hold, have them hold together.
I have no idea.
I don't think that's true.
Or gelatin or something.
I don't know.
No, you can get big gummies.
The head shape is closer to a Swedish fish than.
Oh, God, this is a fucking an old sugar day so far.
I'm going to feel fucking like shit.
I will say.
I mean, a couple of things.
One, you know, Shaq does have fun with branding.
I mean, he had his like Shaq tees for a while.
Yeah, Shaq's big chicken, which we were.
Papa John's partnership, obviously.
Yeah, he's the president of Papa John's.
I actually like the Sacaroni pizza.
It's just kind of like a loaded pepperoni pizza, but it's like a good price, fun scale.
These are solid.
This one just tastes like a regular Swedish fish.
And I would say the Sour Patch Kid one, I like this berry.
And it has a pretty good sour, like not too much, not too little.
My fucking teeth.
I just got them clean.
This is bad.
I've got my headphones on and I can hear the like
smacking.
What's up with sour?
Is this just microplastics?
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't feel like any of this is good to read.
I read it being if you're
definitely do not want this.
I absolutely cannot have that.
There's no situation in which you'll enjoy this.
I disagree with you.
I don't think these are good.
I didn't say, I said they're fine.
Oh, fuck.
They're sour as fuck.
They're really sour, which I like.
Also, I'm struggling to, for both of them, I'm kind of struggling to get through one.
I know we had ice cream earlier, but.
I've tried one of each one.
That's my issue.
I think they're too big.
I understand the Shaq XL gummies branding.
Obviously, Shaq is a large man.
Maybe it's just not for us.
I think this is the thing.
I don't know.
I don't know if the large gummies
are sour candy the size of a small child, not of a seven-foot basketball.
Right.
And look, I'm on the record.
I'm a gummy skeptic.
I say gummy ain't yummy.
I'm still coming into these with an open mind.
I'm a gummy.
I love gummy.
We love gummy.
I'm a gummy dabbler.
I dabble with gummy.
These are just
these are Gemini.
Why does Jemmy want these so bad?
She wants the shack gummies more than she's wanting anything on the show ever.
I think so.
Besides, maybe it looked like dog treats or something.
If I had like shit, some kind of party for like the
basketball event, like maybe I get some shack gummies and throw them out.
But otherwise, I'm not really going back.
I don't really.
You know what problem I have
is that
I have insomnia and anxiety and other things that I manage with gummy medication.
Okay.
So I take like a gummy, like basically like a sour gummy candy every night before bed.
So it's like I'm already eating that one gummy.
I'm not really trying to like eat gummies on my free time.
Yeah.
No, I gotta do it.
I got some insomnia issues.
I'm using my CPAP again, Wags.
And I watched, but you know what?
I got trapped last night.
That chunk pap?
The chunk pap.
I was,
a full metal jacket was on.
Oh, man, all timer.
Yeah.
So I watched some, you know, speaking of chunk kings.
Yeah.
Private pile.
Pile.
Private pile.
The fat guy in that is my goal weight.
It's crazy how, like, what the what the standards for a fat person have become.
So much so that you watch and you're like, how wasn't he?
He was doing pretty well, but
I mean, he just broke mentally.
But also, you know, the theory that Private Pile is just like one part of it, it's like Joker's childhood.
Have you heard of this theory?
What?
That Private Pile is like the death of Choker's Joker's okay.
Childhood, like, like, he, like, does private pile.
Does private pile even exist?
Is the question.
Interesting.
Which, you know.
It's another podcast.
I would definitely blow my head.
Is Shaq even really here?
Does Shaq even exist?
Was Susser really with me?
Was Susser really there, or did you eat a lot more ice cream than you thought?
Mitch, you talked about your CPAP mask, just while we're talking about this, because I have an article from 2015 of the top 50 Shaq endorsements.
So the list has grown.
The general's got to be in there.
The general's definitely in here.
But, you know, kind of, kind of a Krusty the Clown type figure.
We'll put his name onto anything.
I have gummy in my beard.
This is awful.
If you went to boot camp, would you private pile yourself?
You would.
Yeah, day one.
Shaq has a CPAC mask.
The Shaq sleep apnea mask.
You got it.
That's pretty good.
I wonder if it's comfy.
If it's comfy, I'll get one for you.
You would think it maybe be for a bigger guy.
What else?
He's got a sugar substitute.
Shirts.
Yeah.
Shoes you can get at Walmart.
What is his sugar?
What is his sugar substitute?
It's like Stevia.
Radio Shack Soup Man,
Zales, Soda Shack.
I forget what it is.
Soda Shack was the iced teas.
They were pretty popular.
I didn't mind Soda Shack.
We didn't like Big Chicken.
I like the name.
I like the name.
I don't think
it's a good chain.
I mean, it's kind of on the way out now.
They closed the one down here.
The Big Shamrock was my favorite of all the gummies.
The regular gummies, too much like Swedish fish.
I like Swedish fish, but I just think the regular gummies were not great.
It's like you put five Swedish fish in your mouth at once, though.
Yes.
Like your snack.
I would give it maybe a slight whack or maybe the slightest snack, but I think I'm going to go slight whack.
The sours were better, but still close to a slight whack.
Slight snack.
I'm just going to go.
I'm going to go slight snack just because I do like the idea that they're bigger gummies, at least has a gimmick.
They're kind of fun.
They are fun.
They didn't taste astringently bad.
And the best tasting one?
The big shamrock wags.
Did you have one?
My favorite was the shamrock.
Yeah.
The shamrock.
Kind of a sour apple.
I liked it.
Yeah, yeah.
I think it was watermelon.
Watermelon.
Yeah.
The
Shaq obviously had the video game Shaq Fu, his Taco Bell endorsements, his Pepsi endorsements, Icy Hot.
You know, the
and Reebok was a big one back in the day.
I love Shaq.
Let's get Mitch some Icy Hot.
I love Icy hot.
Hey, this is Mitch Appreciation Week.
Let's get Mitch some icy hot.
His back must hurt from carrying this podcast.
Mitch.
I like that a lot.
From carrying that fucking huge podcast.
So if any listener,
well, it's not.
Mitch Appreciation Day.
He's got a big idea.
It's not lie to Mitch Day.
You don't have to say untruth.
You got a permit for that thing?
Beep, beep, beep.
That's backing it up.
Very small beeps.
I was trying to do.
They see Mitch's Hogan go, oh.
I love Shaq.
Shaq is one of my favorite athletes, great media personality.
I love that he has fully embraced who he is.
I even kind of love the kind of carney aspect of like he just has all
he owns.
He owns it.
But all that said, like with our big chicken review, I am not afraid to hold him to account when it is necessary.
And I think this is a case where i understand the branding i do not think these are good gummies i would go a mild whack it's with a heavy heart that i give these a whack we love shaq we want it to be good we're all pretty similar we're all in this zone this is the snack and whack
chasm we're right here we're all right here we're in the same sort of standard it's mid it's mid it took it took shaq a minute to fit in on inside them it's true it did yeah it took him a minute i mean it took it took you a couple years to fit in on this podcast
that's not raw i think it took a couple years for both of us to fit in on this podcast.
What are we thinking over at the producer's desk?
Any takes on these big gummies and even try them?
Um, I think I like the sour ones better than the plain ones.
That's
definitely, but I don't think I'll ever buy them.
Yeah, yeah, Amelia, how does it feel now tasting these gummies that were a pain in the ass to get?
Uh, I didn't.
Do you not like gummy?
Um, not really.
Well, I'm somewhere in between gummy and yummy, and I dabble.
Yeah, sure.
I just didn't feel like eating this after eating ice cream.
That's also
the ice cream is on top of it, but still, it's been a couple of years.
The ice cream was like good sugar that felt like worth it.
This feels not worth the calories.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, I don't love this lingering taste in my mouth.
Yeah, Amelia, you don't like
my Stanley.
Correct.
Amelia doesn't like soda, which was honestly as
our relationship suffered.
Our relationship suffered a bit because, yes, how can you not like an ice cold Coke?
Ice cold Coke?
Not really cold.
McDonald's Sprite?
No.
I've not had it.
Have you ever had cheer wine?
It's a cherry soda property.
You've never had McDonald's Sprite.
Never had McDonald's Sprite.
It's a little bit the fizz.
It's a little bit the fizz, but it's also the sweetness you find overpowering.
You just don't like liquid calories.
You don't like sugary drinks.
It's too sweet.
What do you do?
You have a cocktail.
What do you like to drink?
Or something alcohol?
A mojito.
A mojito.
That's fine.
That's good.
Man, I got a soda you'd like, probably.
Like mojito.
Show me, show me.
What is it?
It's like a Dr.
Pepper,
not Dr.
Pepper lime.
I think, yeah, I think it's like a Dr.
Pepper with lime twist.
Wow.
Interesting.
Okay.
It's like with a vanilla lime twist or something.
I'm a little disappointed about it.
We never got into this.
Actually, we'll talk about it on the live.
I still feel like I have fucking gum.
You're fine.
Just like a restaurant buyer feedback, let's look at the feedback.
Today's email is from Diana.
Diana writes, I worked at a bowling alley in Philly for eight years.
Wow.
In one of our leagues,
a bowler was widely known for being the creator of the Chaco Taco.
Wow.
Whether it be myth or fact, we love that this bowler used his snack stardom to ask for an extra turkey shot or two whenever he bowled three strikes in a row.
My question is: if you could go down in history as being the famed creator of any food, what food would that be?
Second question: who amongst the Dough crew do you think is the best bowler?
Now, this, I think, we have an answer to because Casey, you're a bit of a lanesman.
Is that correct?
I don't know what you're talking about.
Do you want to leak?
You roll leak?
Casey,
you're not a roller?
I think you're a league-time roller.
You've never talked to bowling and
you don't roll leak.
Okay.
Also, I kicked your ass, bowl.
I know.
I know you beat me.
I would say, like, of us, it's you.
I called you pure power because you were just bowling strikes.
I'm loving that name.
Hey, that's the real Hurricane Mitch on them lands.
Pure Power is great.
Yeah.
Pure Power.
Here's my question.
He would get it.
You're not a bowl.
I thought you were a big-time bowler.
No.
We've been telling people Casey's a great bowler.
Where are you going to?
I'm guessing I bowled, but no, I don't.
What about P, who you bowled with?
I know.
I know, but I asked.
But I feel like we had, like, yes, but you also, you, like me, were just kind of like, owling the wild.
You kind of like told me that.
Wait, I thought you were nuts, and then I just had like a flash memory of Casey talking about getting his own bowling ball, but it must have been someone else.
Yeah, wait, what?
You don't
share this.
You don't do league.
It was any bowling game.
I was in the middle of the
studio.
Oh.
You're not.
Was it Alan when we did Bolero?
No, it wasn't Alan.
You went right back to the bottom of the ball.
Casey's a good bowler.
He's just lying.
I kind of think you might have figured it out.
I might have.
Maybe.
He fucking slapped it.
He likes to do that.
He likes to just say shit.
My question to you is an extra shot when you get a turkey, which
when you get a turkey, it's a fan.
That's not like a shot of wild turkey at the bourbon.
No, I believe it's like.
But I think that doesn't.
But is he like being like, guys, you mind if I run it back?
Yeah, that's how you have to do it.
I think it's got to be it.
You get an extra shot or two.
Is it like he's so on fire he doesn't want to stop?
Because
isn't a turkey three strikes?
Three in a row.
And maybe he's just like, I want to throw another one because it feels so good.
I think what it is is, I think actually what I'm reading between the line, I think he is
saying that he.
Wait, hold on.
What is that?
What the fuck does this mean?
I can't parse this.
Let me read this.
Diana.
We love that this bowler used his snack stardom to ask for an extra turkey shot or two whenever he bowled three strikes in a row.
Three strikes is a turkey.
Three strikes already is a turkey.
So I thought he was going to get a mulligan.
He was getting another attempt at getting a turkey.
That's what it means.
Okay.
Or he's just showing off real hard.
It is fun to make the turkey noise when you get a turkey.
That's what I mean.
Chaco Taco is a great idea.
Chaco Taco is a great idea.
But also being the creator of the Big Mac.
Well, this is all.
Bro, wants to be the founder over here.
I mean,
the founder did not create the Big Mac, just so you know.
He didn't create McDonald's either.
The Big Mac or Cool Ranch Doritos.
Oh, man.
You know what?
Coca-Cola?
I don't think I ever told you that my Coca-Cola is pretty good.
My alpha brother Nate went to college with
his friend, his mom.
My brother's
college friend's mom was a marketing person at Frito-Lay who came up with Cool Ranch.
Not the flavor, but the phrase.
Since her movie.
I know.
I guess Flamin' Hot.
If Flamin' Hot lit up, there'd be a movie about that later.
Cool Ranch, that is pretty cool.
That's so crazy.
Cool Ranch is pretty sick.
Yeah.
I think my answer is Coke.
The best beverage.
What about that becomes a, what if that becomes a monkey's paw and you say that, and then then you're a chemist in the 1800s?
Oh, man.
Working in a pharmacy.
Am I as smart as well?
I'm wondering, there's a lot of things that go into this, but there'd be no air conditioning, so I'm done.
I wouldn't time travel.
If I time traveled back to before AC, I would stay in the DeLorean where there was AC.
I wouldn't know AC would suck.
AC's pretty recent, bro.
I know.
Old West, because they didn't have a refrigeration either, so it was like, there's no AC, so it's not as shit.
They were were drinking like room temp beer.
It's like, oh, it just smelled bad.
It smelled so bad.
It smelled like shit.
I don't want to go back in time.
Doc Brown's a fucking idiot.
Okay, so the question was.
He's great fried chicken, though.
He does have a good fried chicken.
If you go down in history as being the famed creator of any food, what food would that be?
Now, look, I have created a food, the Nick Weiger.
It's a perfected Arnold Palmer.
But if it's going to be something.
Well, we're also, I just want, not to be,
those are beverages.
You know what I mean?
That's true.
That's true.
I mean, there's one of those.
So we have to go to food.
Coke would be my answer because I'm just like,
the best beverage to me is Coke.
Here's the thing I was going to say.
I like a thing like a Caesar salad.
Like, not like the star, not like a thing everyone thinks about, but everyone's like, oh, yeah, I like a Caesar salad.
And if you were the guy who made the Caesar salad, who was, I believe, a guy named Caesar.
That's Mexico.
Yeah, that's like kind of a fun.
That's why we got to go to Mexico.
Yeah.
So I'm trying to think of something on that.
This guy's trying to steal that, but that's fine.
What are you talking about?
You're trying to steal it from the guy in Mexico.
I know.
I hate a guy trying to steal the idea from a Mexican.
This is not cultural appropriation.
I was using it as an example of the kind of food that I would be looking at.
All right, well, guess what?
I'll tell you some fun cultural appropriation.
I'm stealing pizza from the Italians.
Eat shit, Italians.
It's mine now.
Mama Mia.
That's right.
I got pizza.
That's what I would take.
Come on.
Pizza's good.
It is a good one.
What if you're like the first person who ever fried chicken?
That's really good.
It sells sober.
It's like that happened across like so many.
If you're a specific one that would would just be fun.
What if I invented waffle fries?
I love that.
That's what I'm talking about.
I like that it's something that existed and I was like, how do we make this better?
Yeah,
waffle fries are fun.
Sandwich, that's choco taco.
It's like ice cream was good, but it's like, how do we make this more fun and interesting?
Yeah, that's a blast.
Papa.
Here's your money back to the boys.
Papa Mia.
We say from here right now.
Here's a
Papamia.
We're giving it back to the
we're taking it back for the boys.
Papa Mia instead of Mama Mia is what we say.
Oh, for the fellas.
Yeah, we're doing it for for the fellas now.
Go ahead, Wise.
Men's rights.
Papa Mia.
No, not men's rights.
Wait, I thought that's why you want to take it off.
We're black-pilled.
Papa Mia.
I have an answer.
And my answer is, along the lines of waffle fries, something that I just think is fun and something that's fun to be like, hey, you're the guy who made that?
The Bread Bowl.
Super Bread Bowl.
How fun is a Bread Bowl?
You know what?
Another one, I wouldn't pick this, but just throw it.
If you were the guy, I would love to meet the guy who made made the Crunch Wrap Supreme.
Yeah.
Wow.
You know what?
He just inspired me.
Cheesy Gordy to Crunch.
Ooh, that's good.
That's a good one.
That's a good one.
Cheesy Gordita Crunch is my game changers.
Anyone over the Critics
and they would be AC when it was created, so I'd be okay.
Anyone over at the producer's desk
got a food they wish they could put their name on, they could claim as their own?
I mean, I just learned recently that chicken tenders originated in Manchester, New Hampshire.
A lot from where I'm from.
So maybe instead of fried chicken, I'll take chicken tenders.
Yeah, Yeah, taking tendies is good because that's like a, you know, a specific.
I like that.
Amelia, would you choose Shaq gummies?
I was actually going to say Shaq Gummies.
What if
they were Shaq's head?
What'd she say?
That's in the movie, the heart cut to a guy in a suit.
What'd she say?
She's white?
Oh, she's white.
Dang, that's a real good idea for gummies.
She's white.
She's white.
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Thanks, guys.
Happy to get scoops.
Great spot.
Good spot.
Happy to get scoops with the guys.
It's going to go wild this summer.
It's going to get wild.
It's going to be popping off this summer.
You heard it here first.
Anise later in 2025, Good Fortune is releasing.
Our feature film, Good Fortune, is coming out next October.
Please go see it.
This October.
This October.
Oh, yes.
Oh, yeah.
Your jump.
Your jump.
This year, mark it on your calendars.
10, 17, 25.
Good fortune in theaters.
It's an epic comedy.
It's got Seth Rogan.
It's got Keanu Reeves.
Wow.
It's,
I'm very happy.
Comedies are bad.
Comedies are bad.
I mean, one thing, me and Mitch, I talk to Mitch a lot, and one thing Mitch is always saying is, where's the comedies?
Yeah.
Where's the comedies and theaters?
He was fucking saying it last week.
That's true.
And I'm trying, Mitch.
Thank you.
I appreciate you trying.
Also, you know what?
It's a birthday movie for me, just 11 days after my birthday.
Maybe I'll see it on the movie.
Yeah, we're not a theater.
I love it.
I might.
I just might.
I need to think so.
Anything else you want to plug?
Loot seasons one and two are streaming on Apple TV Plus.
I think it's like $4.99 to get Apple TV Plus.
I have a lot of friends in my life who are like, I don't have Apple.
Just pay it, man.
Watch that show.
I think there's a Godzilla show on there.
Season three is on the way.
Thank you.
There you go.
And also, I'm just going to plug the Reddit.
The Reddit is good now.
That about does it for the skills.
You know what?
I want to see a Mitch Appreciation thread on the Mitchell.
There should be a Mitch Appreciation Day
thread on the Reddit.
Purely wholesome, purely positive.
That thread is going to become a nightmare.
They're going to fight with each other like never before.
And then, honestly, go to Handles, get a scoop, and tell Mitch send you.
There you go.
I like that.
And hey, there's only one more thing we can say, Wags.
Oh,
dude.
See ya.
Hey, buddy.
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