Toront-dough: Little Canada with Taylor Davis and Carson Pinch

Hey up there, buddy!

It's me, Little Weiger.

We've got a big new episode of Dough Boys Double, so we made it free for everyone.

See, we paid a visit to Little Canada, Toronto's amazing miniatures exhibit, and we talked about it with some cool new friends.

This week on Dough Boys Double, Toronto Dough, Doe Canada, The Great Bite North, a culinary tour of the six continues with Little Canada.

Will you shut the fuck up?

Finally, let's start the show.

Welcome to Dough Boys Double.

I'm Nick Wigger, along with the Spoon Man, Mike Mitchell, Mitch, as Toronto, Doe Canada, the Great Bite North of Month on Culinary Tour of the Six continues.

Wow.

Wow.

Wow.

Wow.

And reality kind of ends.

Well, this chronologically, this is the final in-person record up here at Podium Studios in Toronto.

Ben and in and in it.

Ben and in and in it.

I'm like, bad to the bone?

Yeah, I'm like, I'm excited that it's ending.

I'm saying like, we're, I'm done.

We're done with our work.

Why that's cue?

Why bad to the bone?

Because I was like raising my eyebrow.

Oh, it's like a horny thing.

We're not done.

We're done.

I'm not horny.

I'm never horny.

I would just say, like, we're done, Bennett.

Like, it was like kind of a part.

Right, it's like a needle drop in, like, a one of our, one of our guests laughed.

That's all we need.

It was, it was a, it was out of pity.

I get he's he's going for a bit here.

I'm going to throw a laugh, but I do not.

It resembled a bit.

Yes.

It was.

It was a bit.

I was happy.

Kind of like the cellar.

Oh, what kind of shit I've done?

Yeah, Cool and the Gang celebration.

I would have gotten more.

All right.

That was a genuine.

I'm excited it's done.

I'm excited

out of here.

Mitch, I'm excited about that too.

Although I've enjoyed my time up here in Toronto, lovely town.

Do we do a thing where we record

all of our episodes in four months and like really have a concentrated hate for each other and then have time off.

No, I think we have a I think we need to have a better system.

I think we'll figure this out in the next year.

We did the best we could with your abrupt change of schedule, with your, your, your, your wonderful success, and, and working on your great show up here.

Hollywood calls, you pick up the phone, man.

You know what I mean?

Yes, what's that, Mr.

Weinstein?

Hope you're right there.

Mark Weinstein's stand down and stand by.

Mitch, well, it's great.

We've had a lot of

our old friends up here, you know, our Canadian friends, a lot of

friends that are Americans that are working up here.

I think you're alluding to some new friends.

This is the thing.

We have some new friends here.

New friends.

I'm kind of more my new friends, not yours, but whatever.

Okay, well, I'm thrilled to have them on the podcast.

We at least are at least have mutual friends in common.

Toronto's own Carson and Taylor, Carson Pinch, and Taylor Davis.

Thanks so much for being here, guys.

Thank you so much.

I'm totally open for new friends.

I love it.

Nick, we're, we're, we're, we're game.

That's great.

Let's, let's exchange numbers.

Yeah, my schedule is really heavy at the moment.

That's fine.

Mine's wide open.

Just so busy.

Yeah.

Now, our friend in common is...

Choice, by the way.

Our friend in common is Blank Checks Griffin Newman.

Correct.

And he connected all of us.

And I will, while I'm on that note, we're not on the text chain.

That's fine.

We connected all of us.

You're on the text chain because you're up here, because you guys can hang out or whatever.

Which, to be fair, we started a text chain about in the beginning of August, and we have not hung out until we did the live show the other night.

It is the first time I saw you.

This is my first time meeting.

It is our first time meeting.

Yeah, though I feel like we've known each other forever.

I know.

Yeah, it's been a while.

A lot of texting we did.

The way Griffin explained this too, if I can, is that he was like, My friend's coming up there to film.

He doesn't know anybody.

He's really dependent on this.

He's really lonely.

He really hates his life.

And we were like, okay, wow.

So this guy really needs like a buddy.

So we were like right away, like, hey, man, like, how are you?

What do you need?

Any recommendations you need?

We'll help you out.

see you later suckers yeah this city is mine i went in swords uh he was right yeah to be fair you were

true i think you were i think you were kind of you know early on i think you were kind of a little homesick and i think that was kind of coming through at least in communicating with you electronically

first week in new orleans having a ball yeah

there were some things that made the journey here a little rocky a little arguy when i first got there but there's something i'll say say.

There's a subject we're talking about today, which we'll get into, but I'll say this.

Things changed.

Things changed.

That's all I can, without spoiling anything.

Wow.

Things changed.

You know what I'm alluding to, Rogs.

Things change.

Burner and Rainer and Rainer.

Okay, so you also connected us with Miguel Gaultier, who performed a French language version of the Doughboys intro in our live show.

Miguel, a great dude.

Very, very happy to meet him.

We appreciate that connection a lot.

Well, yeah, like I don't really listen to, I was telling this mission earlier, where it was like, don't listen to podcasts.

Yeah.

And then

that's the right call.

So

I asked Miguel, and I was like, because you had said, I need somebody who's bilingual, and I knew Miguel is an improviser.

And I was like, do you know Doughboys?

He's like, yes.

I'm like, oh, okay, cool.

Like, I kind of know one of them.

He's like, which one?

And I'm like, I'm like, well, okay.

And I connected.

I don't think he believed me for a majority of it until I think it

could be.

Was he more excited that it was me?

I mean, he didn't, he didn't care.

Yeah,

I believe his response was, oh, cool.

But that's how I read it.

It could have been, oh, cool.

Yeah, that's true.

I think it was.

I'm going to, I like to believe that it was, oh, cool.

Miguel is lovely.

So Miguel's from Manitoba.

I'm curious, each of you, are you from Ontario?

Like, how long have you lived in Toronto?

We are from Ontario.

We're from a small town called Sarnia, Ontario.

I'm from Brigden, Ontario.

Which is a small subsect of Sarnia, Ontario.

540 people.

Yes.

That is a small 70,000.

It's a small oil and petrochemicals city.

Is it akin to Hamilton, which I know about through Mitch?

Well, Steel City.

Steel City, right?

But it's part of the industrial heartland of,

yeah, it's like we're my, it's, my people are in Hamilton.

Salt of the earth, hard workers.

We put our hard hat on.

We come and record podcasts every day.

Exactly.

Yeah, Sarnia is the cancer capital of Canada.

Oh, true.

If you're from Sarnia, every single person you know will die from cancer.

Oh my gosh.

Statistic.

Why is it the cancer capital?

Well,

they built the largest petrochemicals plant in North America there.

And

when they did that, it was out of a time where they put it really close to the city.

Like you would never be able to put the plant so close to people nowadays.

Jeez.

And it just still

lives there.

And there's sirens that go off every so often, and you know,

you just go back, you go inside, you shut the windows, and like an air raid sounds like basically like we're dispensing some deadly chemicals into the atmosphere or get the fucking doors.

Yeah, it's possible that the outbreak monkey is also in the city, too, if that happens, right?

Could it be the outbreak monkey?

It could be.

I think it's the same system,

but he's actually really nice.

He's great.

He's got a job at Chemical Foundation.

Like, he works there.

Like, he's done a lot.

Oh, that's what he did after the

film.

Like he was the earth.

You know, he's a dick.

Curious George.

Oh, I feel like.

He's like a prima donna.

He knows what he's doing.

He knows what he's doing.

You know, you know, do you know who they're good friends?

Is

the monkey from Friends?

Yeah.

And the Outbreak Monkey.

They hang out.

Yeah.

They look very similar.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Are they the same?

And there was

that meme that went crazy, the Ikea monkey.

Oh, right.

That was here.

That was here.

That was here.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Wow.

The Ikea monkey in a parka.

Yeah.

Good monkey.

One of our best monkeys.

Yeah, he was just cute.

Yeah, he was cute as hell.

I remember

there was an explosion at Chemical Valley a long time ago.

Oh, my God.

No one died.

No one got hurt.

But I remember when it happened because I was staring out my bathroom window.

As you do.

Yeah, sure.

It was just staring, but the window was open and I heard a distant like.

And I was like,

what was that?

And then my window went,

like, just did like a shake.

And I've always had like a deep fear of asteroids or nuclear weapons.

Yeah, so I ran out through my brother's balcony window and then climbed up to my roof to wait for like the shock blast because I was like I was like sounds like you were embracing it almost.

That was right.

I have been dreaming about this for years.

You fear it, but you want to experience it 100%.

I feel like I'm going to.

I always have these dreams where a tornado just appears on my farm.

Yeah.

And I'm like, here it goes.

You grew up on a farm.

Wow.

Yeah.

So you went up to the roof to embrace embrace it.

And then just...

Oh, nothing happened.

And then I just found out on the news that it was just an explosion.

But I was like, do you remember when that happened?

It was a big deal.

Was this when you closed the windows at this point?

No, I didn't know what was going on.

Yeah.

But this is also, I think it's about like 30 kilometers away from me.

And sometimes they don't tell you

about these things until then you find out after the fact, like what happened.

Dear God.

It was terrifying.

Yeah, like, and swimming.

Growing up swimming in the lake, you'll just be, but you'll find out, like, oh, by the way, you weren't supposed to be swimming yesterday,

it was not safe, but then today is okay, right?

So, you're like, wait, what's changed in the water?

Like, you're like, it's just not as bad.

Sarnia's gonna be so pissed about this.

We love it.

Don't get us wrong.

I love going back home.

Who's gonna be so pissed about it?

They get there's a lot of the town.

It's a little bit of a

chip on their shoulder a little bit.

Every time I go home, like, if they find out that anyone has discouraged Sarnia in any like little way, people talk about it.

Sure, yeah.

Yeah.

But I will talk up Brigden, the small village.

Brigden, the small village.

How many people?

540.

Yeah.

540.

Yeah.

That's where I grew up, which is about half hour away from Sarnia.

So then I went to like theater camp when I was 13 and I met Carson.

We met when this collab has been going for since you were teenagers.

Yeah, 26 years.

That's amazing.

I went to theater camp as well.

Wages?

I never went to theater camp.

I went to music camp.

Camp Arrow.

There were three of us.

Three of us.

That's why we're close to the bottom.

We're really good friends.

And the third.

Is it Nick?

Is the third?

Is it Nick?

Yeah, and we met him probably about three years ago.

Mitch, I'm Nick.

Oh, sorry.

You're Nick.

Yeah.

Our friend.

Oh, there's another new.

Yes, or there's another.

There's another Nick that we're friends with.

Got it.

A fair.

Yes.

The Nick that we're friends with.

You're my wife.

So how long have you lived in Toronto now?

2011.

2011.

Yeah, we moved to,

we started doing theater camp teaching comedy in Connecticut, and that's where we met Griff.

Wow.

Did he come to you as a student of comedy?

No, no, he was already teaching.

He was a junior counselor at that time.

Okay.

Okay.

Yes.

And we were just a couple of goofball Canadians coming in to teach our improv.

It's funny that you say that because not to derail you real quick, but just what you just said, like, because we've been talking about the movie Megalopolis, which Francis Ford Coppola directed.

And the character in Megalopolis, Arby Plaza plays, is called Wow Platinum.

That's the character's name, Wow Platinum.

We say the word Wow a lot on the Doughboys, and we also, if something gets five forks, we inducted into the Platinum Play Club.

Wow Platinum, both references to Doughboys, I believe.

I believe Francis Ford Coppola is a listener of the podcast because

it makes sense because Mitch and I, too, are a Coppola

Coppola.

So, yeah, so yeah.

So, by the way, I just want to say that I looked at Emma and she shook her head.

No, I looked at Mars.

She shook her head.

I pictured Francis Ford Coppola listening to this going, oh, and then shutting down his

twice a week, every week in the month of October.

So it's it's very annoying, and he's going to add it to the one I think he forgot.

No, but I just want to, I just want to go back to that.

So you were talking about, like, you guys are a couple of goofballs.

You are meeting Griffin Newman at camp.

Yeah.

Summer camp in Connecticut.

It's a rich kid camp.

All the New York

elite intelligentsi.

Send their children there.

Right.

A lot of pale kids, people who do not cannot throw a ball

whatsoever.

That's great for me.

It's amazing.

And we met, we taught comedy and we moved moved to new york uh yeah it was too hard to live there and so we moved to toronto because we were illegal immigrants right that is generally the reason why it was too difficult

every time i

know you get really upset but every time i crossed the border i did the same trick where i just have one week's worth of clothes i'm like i'm just visiting my friends in new york and then they're like when you're returning i'm like oh you know in a bit like and then when i was coming back to visit i was like oh i'm just coming back from new york when i visit my family only one time did they grill me like bring me into a room room.

Oh, wow.

And like, give me that.

After you took a bunch of pets, the dogs, the cats?

No, no, it was.

No, I was, I went in there.

They just, she just didn't buy it.

She saw through me.

But everyone I'm working with her was like, he's just

eating the dogs.

You were eating dogs.

I wasn't eating dogs in Canada.

That's not true.

Eating the pitch.

Eating the dogs and eating the cats.

This is what he warned us about.

I wanted to build a, I told you, I want to build a wall.

I grill

farm.

Okay.

You eat what you get.

I want to build the northern wall and keep you you guys in Canada away from the United States.

That's what I want to do.

And I told you if Trump had run on that, Wigs.

It's a long border.

You would have still voted for it.

It's a long border.

I got to say this.

Largest unguarded border in the world.

Sure.

We got to guard it.

No, there's some spots where you can just kind of hop over.

Yeah, that's wild.

I could guard it.

You could do it.

I could do it.

You guys should do it.

You guys should do it.

You should do it.

It'll be fun.

It will be silly and fun, I feel like.

There's one thing here.

The monkey from Friends is the monkey from OpenBox.

It's the same monkey.

Same monkey.

Marcel, which is very similar to someone we might talk about today.

Marcel.

And then also,

we have to talk about this.

While you were off getting coffee for 20 minutes.

It's not my fucking fault.

It's 20, 25.

You were nervous yesterday when we were going to go to Little Canada.

That's right.

We went to Little Canada.

Yesterday, and I was going to go get McDonald's, and I was like, I can get this and be back in 10 to 15 minutes.

And then it took you about 20 minutes.

This all would have worked.

And I had, unless there's all that coffee to your order to make it longer.

That's fine.

This is all a domino effect from you being late for breakfast.

That's okay.

That's all right.

You think it would have been from me being late to breakfast?

Yeah,

if we would have had time, if you would have been on time for that, we would have ended in time for me to get a coffee before this record.

I will say we didn't order anything because we were respectful of the time.

You guys were very respectful of the time.

And you know what, Wags?

I found a little factoid out that I was going to tell you, and then you're blaming me.

So I was perfectly on time.

Thank you, Ama.

Thank you.

Oh, pretty easy for you to see that you were next door to you fucking assholes.

I was at the dollar store.

There we go.

I was up at 7:30.

All right, sorry, keep going.

I don't give a shit when you were up.

I was up at 2 a.m.

There you go.

All right.

Fuck off.

Jesus.

No,

you'll understand so soon.

I promise you.

Taylor, can you please tell Weiger the factoid you told me that I told you that he would love?

Oh, there's that my father is a train mechanic.

Wow.

Yeah, you really?

I don't know.

Like train.

That's cool.

Wait, did he like what?

Oh, you want to tell him to fuck off?

What?

No, I mean, you're living in, wait, you're living in a small, you're living in Brigden, a population 540, and you are there, like your father is living with you.

Yeah, yeah, and and so and so is it is the closest so he's the closest city and did the train station there is that where he he's largely working no he's so he was uh he worked for cn cn okay and then he started his own business that was based in tony and they were like mechanics per hire oh wow okay i don't know anything more than that like i went into the arts do you do you know much about the train like industry in canada uh only peripherally you know i saw some of the exhibits and we were walking around toronto and and and i saw some of the the uh real cars that were set up on display there and i've i've done I've like, you know, I know a little bit peripheral research about it, but I've never like ridden the rails up here.

I'd love to do it.

Love to hop on one of those cars going from like Banff to Toronto or whatever.

Did you think you'd ever ride Ozzy Osborne's crazy train?

Yeah.

You love trains, but you think you would get on it?

Yeah.

Jeez.

I mean, too scary.

Yeah, but he's saying all aboard.

That is true.

He's abandoned.

He's very well aboard.

You don't even need a ticket.

Yeah.

I mean, really, when you think about the message of the crazy train, it's like crazy.

Hey, but that's how it goes.

Millions of people are living as foes.

Maybe it's not too late to learn how to love and forget how to hate.

It's a pretty wholesome message, ultimately.

But it's also still

wheels.

What is it?

Going off the rails on a crazy train.

Yeah, going off the rails.

I mean, they don't slow down in residential areas.

That's their issue.

They fly through that.

Don't you want you?

Don't you want them to tell?

Don't you want to tell him to fuck off a little bit?

I don't know why you're pushing this so hard.

He's just respecting my father's position.

I think it's really how he raised us.

I'm a Hamilton man.

I know how it is for the fucking work.

The salt there to Brigden is like, that's the city.

You don't know the salt.

Oh my God.

Salt of the earth.

540 population.

Is that real?

It's just farming.

Callused hands.

Your hands.

You don't even get it.

It's like.

Yeah, right.

Are you kidding me?

I've holding podcasts myself all day.

I'm calloused up, wise.

So that hand's getting plenty of workout.

Okay, so I, so you live in Toronto since 2011.

We talked about a couple of topics.

One I do want to touch on real quick is the old spaghetti factory.

Now, this is a chain we do have in Southern California, and I used to go to the old spaghetti factory as a kid.

I've never looked into the old spaghetti factory's origins.

Is it from Canada?

Do we know?

I believe the origins are in Canada.

I guess I could have looked this up in advance.

I have been to the LA location of the old spaghetti factory.

Yes.

Griff has been pushing me to go to the spaghetti factory so much, and his other recommendation worked out.

So I do need to go before I leave.

We should definitely go.

We have been going for 10 years.

Oh, okay.

Oh, wow.

Yes.

Every year.

Okay.

It is just real quick.

It is like AW, whereas there is a schism between the American and the Canadian brands.

So they're separately owned.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Correct.

The Canadian ones, I would say, are a little better.

I would not doubt it.

AMW Canada is far superior to AMW USA.

There it is.

You go tonight.

I might be down.

We're not doing anything.

I mean, we can make this happen.

I'm just saying we could go to the old spaghetti factory tonight.

We were going to go to Prime Seafood Palace instead.

Now, I will warn you: the spaghetti is old.

It's quite old.

Who wants

to use it?

It's in the name.

Oh,

it's old.

Okay.

Now, you can eat on a streetcar, which is nice.

That is cool.

And they do have a crystal room that you can eat in.

We've been taking people there for

years now,

gotten, become friends with the wait staff there.

It's a special place.

The food,

not good.

One.

It's more about the one vibes.

The vibes are impeccable at the old spaghetti factor.

It's been a year since we've been, but I always had a great time.

Yeah.

Spaghetti.

I'll be happy as hell.

But

are the meatballs new?

No, no,

nor is that spaghetti the last time that i ordered there i i didn't order the spaghetti and someone asked me why and i was like the one thing that i've always regretted ordering at the old spaghetti factory is spaghetti

wow

every time and this is the place that griff says we have to go more than anywhere else um it comes with a free coffee at the end of it oh that's true i mean that's true i do have an ice cream coffee tea and lemonade right did you have you have a drink choice or just coffee yeah coffee tea and lemonade.

And ice cream.

A little bit of ice cream.

That's great.

You just throw that on there.

Yeah.

You just get some spaghetti with butter on it if you like.

That's one option.

I like spaghetti with butter.

Yeah, why not?

Classic.

Plain noodle?

A little bit of butter.

A noodle with some butter on there?

That sounds great.

I'm in.

Yeah.

The only thing is, like, you're not going to go.

Like, the spaghetti is the spaghetti is old, but at least it's like handmade by like artists and chefs.

Like, no.

No, no, it's not.

It's factory made.

No, it's factory made.

It's factory made.

Taking old spaghetti

and making more old spaghetti.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Like you cannot have fresh spaghetti.

Isn't old spaghetti factory a level in Mario Odyssey?

It is, yeah.

Did you guys ever go to Eastside Mario's?

Was there ever a thing?

We have never been to Eastside Mario's.

That is a Canadian chain that is owned by

the same company that owns Harvey's and Swiss Chalet and the Cake now.

It's all one company.

We've never been.

We've discussed this with Mars.

We should discuss it with you guys, too.

We should give you a rundown.

Tim Hortons, I liked.

I yelled at the audience.

I said, you all like Tim Hortons, too.

Well,

we'd love to hate it.

We love it.

We'd love to hate it, but they also do genuinely love it.

The stores are packed there.

Well, I think this is, again, this thing.

We were there Sunday at 5 p.m.

Yes.

You can go a lot and still be like kind of frustrated with it.

You know, you can be like, you can be like, this is my place that I go to, but it still kind of sucks.

I go to Starbucks more than I'd like to, and I think Starbucks kind of sucks, but sometimes it's the best option.

You know what?

We can just ask you because we've announced the restaurants, the other restaurants, except for the last one.

We can just ask your opinions on Tim Hortons, Swiss Chalet, Harvey's, and is that it?

And Boston Pizza.

Oh, nice.

There's one thing I want to bring up about Tim Hortons

and the dislike of it.

And I don't think you guys understand how excited Canadians get when we are mentioned.

or thought about in any way whatsoever.

Because we don't really have a culture of our own.

We're a big melting pot.

And Tim's has really become this manufactured corporate culture

for us.

So even if someone hates it, we love that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I get that.

They wanted me to hate it.

Right.

Very much so.

But guess what?

I liked it a lot.

But also that honey crooler slaps.

Great.

Honey crauler is great.

This is my issue.

This is my issue with Hortons.

I'm like, I was like, I went to Tim Hortons and I liked it.

And the people are like, oh, it's awful.

What did you get?

And I was like, well, I got an ice cap.

And they're like, well, the ice caps are really good.

I'm like, okay.

And they're like, what else you got?

I'm like, I got Tim Bits.

And they're like, yeah, Timbits are good.

And then it just keeps happening.

I got a farmer's wrap.

Farmer's wraps are pretty good.

They like it.

They liked it.

At the end of the day, it's coffee.

When they're like, I don't like the coffee.

But I will say for me, Tim Simpson is

my favorite coffee spot.

It's your favorite coffee spot.

And you know how in New York people hate on Times Square if they live in New York?

They're like, oh, don't go to Times Square.

When I lived in New York, it was the first place I took ever.

I'm like, you guys want to see Times Square?

This place is insane.

Every time I went to the same place, it is insane.

We did find a good pizza place in Times Square that we love.

Pizza Bar.

Yeah, Pizza Bar.

Pizza Bar.

Joe's.

Also, there's a Joe's in Time New York to Square.

It was on 41st Street.

It is closed the last time I went.

So, one other thing about Tim Hortons, I want to say is that there are a couple like secret menu items that you can get that are that are, I would say, incredible.

And it's only like if they have the ingredients available to them.

Adrenochrome?

Have you had a breakfast sandwich there?

Yes.

It's very plain.

It's run of the mill.

But if they have an everything croissant,

you can be like, hey, give me a breakfast sandwich, but wrap it in that everything croissant.

Everything croissant.

Okay.

And it's so good.

I did not know.

Yeah.

Secret.

Secret off menu.

I live here.

Tell me.

I get the newsletter like everyone else.

Mars, you're an everything bagel fan.

That's your favorite bagel.

Have you had this everything croissant?

I haven't, but that is a great hack at the Tim Hortons.

What I, instead of ordering the regular breakfast sandwich, I say a bacon breakfast sandwich on an everything bagel with mayo.

I think it's really tasty.

It's very affordable too, and it keeps me full for like half the day.

Wow.

100%.

Okay.

Wow.

Now, of the other chains, like I have a clear favorite and a place that's near and dear to my heart, Harvey's.

Yeah.

It is my favorite.

Having them watch, like watching them make that burger in front of of you is sublime.

Really enjoyed the Harvey's experience.

I like the burger bar.

It's fun.

So, I will say this: we were, we were kind of in the middle on Harvey's.

I think we did three and a half forks each on Harvey's, yeah, but we enjoyed the experience.

That's pretty cool.

Yeah, it wasn't, it wasn't bad.

I, I wish that the, I don't know if I love the burger patty at Harvey's, interesting, yeah, interesting.

It's, it's, it's, and you felt similarly, right?

Like, it was like the burger itself, yeah.

I mean, I think I thought, but I, but I liked all the toppings, I like being able to customize it.

That was a lot of fun, and Yeah, we definitely did not like we definitely did not hate it.

We it we thought it was we thought it was teen was good.

Yeah.

Yeah, I don't know.

I I enjoyed Harvey's.

Harvey's was very solid.

Yeah.

I mean, like, I mean, I wouldn't give a Harvey's five you know, forks.

So, I mean, three and a half, I think, is a really fair.

Yeah.

Like, I enjoy it, but, like, none of these things, like, speak out to me.

Interesting.

Do you have a favorite among, like, outside of that?

Like, if there, if there was, like, you're talking about all of Canadian chains, all of Canadian fast food restaurants,

anyone that you like.

I mean, it might j it might just be Tim Hortons, and that's okay.

I mean, Tim Hortons, I just have an affection for.

Yeah, I enjoy their coffee, and everyone gives it

shit, but like, I enjoy it.

It's very much like a Dunkin' Donuts coffee.

I liked it, it was like, I like diner coffee.

I like, that's the type of coffee I like.

I do not like Starbucks.

And I love going to McDonald's and getting coffee.

100%.

But last time I drove through, they lost their beans.

No one lost his coffee.

I know we lost the beans.

They lost their beans.

They lost the beans.

We've got to get to this point one second.

Yes, who we sold it to.

McDonald's.

Hey, you have to to re-follow the bean.

Wait, did you listen to our, did you listen to our live show episode?

No.

I don't listen to this.

I don't even know what this is.

This is what I'm saying.

Yeah.

Wise.

I'm scared right now.

Wise, your bing search, people have come back and said they actually did lose their beans.

I got so much shit at the show because you binged it and you proved I was wrong.

And you said Sparky is a liar, my transpo driver.

I didn't say Sparky was a liar.

I said it was possibly an urban legend that's being used.

You basically called Sparky a liar.

I would never say that about Sparky.

From what people are coming back to me, they're saying they did lose the beans and McDonald's took the beans.

I'd love to see some sources on any of this because I did, you know, I just use the Google search engine.

I love the search I find, Yahoo Finance Canada, seem like a pretty good source.

Let me binge legend.

I'm going to binge control.

I'm going to be you were getting into something.

I'm sorry, and I and I cut you off.

I don't remember.

About coffee.

Oh, every time I drive through the States, I go to McDonald's to get the coffee.

And every time I've been like, I go to a drive-thru, and I'm like, I can just get a coffee.

And they're like, oh,

we don't have a, I could put one on the pot right now.

Like, I'll be there.

And I'm like, no.

It's not very like a go-to thing.

Right.

Well, I got to say this.

There's a lot more.

I think you said you guys have some good late-night options.

And there is a lot more like.

I went to McDonald's recently, and there's like breakfast and lunch, they serve at the same time.

You have more late-night options.

There's like a lot of stuff like that.

But I think with the States, it's like we put coffee off and it's done for the day.

You know what I mean?

Like at McDonald's or something, yeah.

A lot of times you go to a coffee shop and you end up ordering an espresso drink because that's the thing they could at least make fresh.

But yeah, the coffee pot is not like staying warm all day.

Yeah, that's it's a the the that is a thing I like about a place like Tim Hortons.

And honestly, I would I prefer the Tim Hortons vibe over the Starbucks vibe.

I went to Second Cup, which I know is a another, like a second-tier Canadian coffee chain that has more of a start, like a like a coffeehouse sort of energy to it.

Lots of people with laptops hanging out.

And I just kind of like more of the working class vibe of a Tim's, where it's just kind of like, oh, you know, everyone's in here.

And, you know, it's not like a place to

write your screenplay or whatever the fuck.

I Googled it for you.

And Google says that

the McDonald's coffee is not the Tim Hortons original blend.

However, McDonald's coffee in Canada is supplied by Mother Parker's, who used to supply Tim Hortons until Tim Hortons bought their own roasting facility.

Well, well, well, it sounds like they took their beans.

It sounds like a bunch of gray area.

Yeah, it sounds like

I think you maybe get two and a half Pinocchios.

Two and a half Pinocchios?

It's not a full like three to five Pinocchios.

They took their beans, it sounds like slightly on five.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It sounds like I was pretty, it was much closer to the truth.

We'll figure out all this out when the month's over.

Let's talk about little.

Hold on, what were we just talking about?

Just a second before that, before V.

We were talking about

the other chains.

To go through that quickly, the only one I like is I like Boston Pizza.

Yeah.

Boston Pizza.

Yeah.

I like Boston Pizza for the sake of when my family visits and they are like,

Where can I bring like 14 people?

Like children in.

A large party can walk in.

Right.

Yeah.

It's Boston Pizza.

Yeah.

I like that.

I like dining rooms.

What Boston Pizza did you go to?

We went to the one on Front Street.

That's the one.

That's the one.

That's the one.

That's the spot.

When we first

got to Toronto, we went to a Boston Pizza and we only went in because they offered, they had a sign out front that was like free fish bowls.

Or no,

a deal on fish bowls.

And we were like, what are fish bowls?

And

they were triple mixed drinks

in an actual fish bowl.

I saw these being made.

And it was just so fun to clink them around and cheers with fish bowls.

I zoned in on them immediately, and I was very interested.

At first, I thought you meant an actual bowl of fish, which Amelia would be down for.

She likes to gamble on seafood.

She's like the old fashioned seafood.

But I saw those and I was so interested.

Did you spill coffee on yourself?

I thought I did, but I can't find it.

I don't see a drip.

Look at being just a bowl of fish that you take home.

We just have so much fish.

He's going fishing now.

I was going to say this.

You like the working-class vibe of Tim Hortons?

Yeah.

You never experienced it up in Hamilton, my man.

Yeah.

You have no idea.

Yeah, I guess I didn't have my driver take me up to Hamilton for my job as a TV actor.

My co-worker, Sparky,

whose job is to drive you to set

they drive actors to set we're both workers we're both making a show together guys it's a it's a great thing that exists within the industry you know i i haven't uh written a screenplay in a tim hortons but i have signed a lease in a kim tim hortons wow uh and then i got kicked out we got kicked out from for signing that lease

like you can't do that you can't do a business transaction here yes there's a restaurant security camera

i feel like that's like the exact sort of place you have to do something like that yeah I did that.

I did it at a coffee bean myself in LA.

I was at a WeWork once and a guy came up to me and then talked to me about how he wanted to open up a heavy metal bar in Inglewood,

which is

like a city near Los Angeles.

And then he was like, he's like, I want to do like a heavy metal like Sangria bar.

And I was like, just

listen to him.

just thinking in my head, that's a terrible idea.

I'm like, cool, man.

And then he was like, hey, man, because I had an account where I could print from.

He was like, hey, can I print something from your account?

And I was like, yeah, whatever.

And he had me print out his divorce papers.

Oh, my God.

That's insane.

Irrecoverable differences.

Yeah.

Just obsessed with this sangria metal.

Wow.

But anyway, yeah, we should talk about Lil Canada.

Lil Canada, previously our home in miniature land, it is in the basement of the Tenor, which is a shopping center, which is, it feels like is kind of in an area akin to Times Square in Toronto, right?

It's a very big shopping district, big touristy area,

a whole bunch of stores, whole bunch of chain restaurants, huge mall there.

It is created by a billionaire heir, Jean-Louis Brenninkmeiser, a Dutchman who was raised in the UK and spent $24 million of his own fortune so far to build a miniature version of Canada.

We were talking about railroads earlier.

This uses the most popular railroad scale, H-O scale, which is 1 to 8.7 or 3.5 millimeters equals one foot, if you can wrap your head around that.

Which we saw, they show the scale outside when you're first walking in.

There's like a big bear and then a raccoon.

They show Canada's tallest man, and then they show them at 1.18 scale, to 1 to 1.8th scale or whatever.

And it's interesting.

I mean, it's interesting.

Look, when I was walking into that, I was like, hmm.

This is going to suck.

This is going to be bad.

Everything we're hearing in the run-up to this is like, okay, this will be kind of like a kitschy sort of thing, maybe, or maybe this will be kind of like, oh, wait, this is a weird quixotic, you know,

like this, this, this passion project that this guy's making

for whatever reason.

And we're just like, oh, this will be a weird thing to explore.

I kind of was primed for that experience.

And this was something that one, a topic that the two of you pitched like as a thing, as a thing.

And we ended up having Mitch and I ended up making the time to go over and be able to tour it fully, which I was glad we got to do so we could discuss it.

But like, what was the impetus for wanting to discuss Little Canada?

May I?

Yes, please.

I did not pitch this.

Okay.

I fully pitched this.

Cars Carson 110% was behind this.

I've gone twice.

You've gone twice.

It's amazing.

I love it.

It's the best.

So Griff.

So Griff Newman, our friend.

Griffin Newman had told us about Lil Canada and was like, you have to go.

You have to go.

But again, it could have been in the sense of you have to see Megalopolis.

It could have been the same sort of thing.

It's like, I don't really know what to expect here.

I'm just going to say my big thing now.

Can I, Wags?

Well, let me.

go ahead.

I'm just going to say my big thing right now.

I was very mean to the idea of Little Canada.

In the live show, I said that if you put

Toronto in a juicer and juice out all the cool stuff, and then you're left with traffic and Little Canada, that's Toronto.

Everything else is gone.

That's what I said.

I was being mean to Toronto.

It got a big pop.

It did get a big pop.

I mean, they kind of liked me, but hated me and then felt bad.

I was joking around.

Anyways.

It goes back back to what you're saying, like any attention at all, you're happy to receive your percentage.

I went to Little Canada.

My mind was changed, maybe on the entire country of Canada.

I loved Little Canada.

Yeah.

It warmed my heart.

It was a great experience.

It was genuinely one of the best things I did out here.

I loved Little Canada so much.

Little Canada is magical.

I absolutely love going to Little Canada.

I'm sorry.

I loved it.

It was so cool.

It was such amazing craftsmanship.

The passion side of it, which again, I was ready for it to be like, oh, this is like the room or whatever.

This is some self-financed boondagle.

It's not that.

It is like, this is a wholesome thing where this guy genuinely cares about this.

He has a genuine love for his adopted homeland of Canada and he wants to share it with the world.

And he's employing a bunch of artisans to bring it to life.

And then what they have created is so fully realized and so well thought out and so

brilliantly presented that it ends up being this like incredible immersive experience that to me as an American, as an outsider, this is my fourth time ever in Canada, my first time in the city of Toronto.

I'm like learning about this great land and developing a more appreciation for it as I'm walking through these exhibits.

I love Little Canada.

They do a great job with a lot of the stuff of, you know, Alexander Graham Bell's little cottage or whatever it was.

Right?

Wasn't it?

Wasn't that?

There is.

There's a bunch of stuff like that.

I didn't learn too much.

But

it's like Canada's Disney to me.

It was so much more Disney-like than I thought it would be.

It was really a turning point for me

in my Canadian journey.

I loved it.

We had a wonderful time.

Everything changed.

There's pre-Little Canada and post-Little Canada for me.

Let me give it to you a little more table setting for people who don't know what this is and are maybe were not aware of its existence.

This is from a Toronto Life piece called Model Citizen by Luke Rinaldi.

Five generations back,

Jean-Louis's ancestors founded CNA, a global clothing empire with thousands of stores around the world.

You might call it the Netherlands answer to H HM if it weren't a century older.

By some estimates, the family is worth $29 billion.

Jean-Louis moved to Canada in 1999 to work for the family business, fell in love, never left.

And then he visited Hamburg's miniature wonderland, which is the largest model train display in the world.

It took nearly 800,000 working hours over 17 years to build inside a 75,000 square foot warehouse, a thousand trains weaved through impeccably detailed recreations of iconic European cities.

And to him, the exhibit wasn't a blast from the past.

It was an inspiration to the future.

I thought, this is this quote, wouldn't it be great if I did something like this in Canada?

A single square foot of Little Canada could cost between $500.

So a scene in rural Quebec would be something like that, might be $500, and $1,200 for like a parked city block in downtown Toronto.

And so you have a ground floor entrance to a largely subterranean space beneath the tenor.

And we arrive there.

And so you basically see Little Canada.

You see the signage.

You see some elevators down, and then there are a couple of people greeting you there.

One of them was Jay.

And Jay is like, we had a little breakfast side quest because we weren't sure we had time for breakfast.

And Jay was like, oh, you totally got time for breakfast.

You weren't sure.

I wasn't sure.

Yeah, I wasn't sure we'd have time for breakfast.

And the guy was like, ah, go get your breakfast.

Come back here.

You'll be fine.

Like, you'll be fine on time.

He explained everything.

And he was totally right.

And he was also like, like the rest of the staff, was completely awesome, super knowledgeable, and genuinely enthusiastic about Little Canada.

And that is like, and enthusiasm is intoxicating.

And that's part of why it's such an engaging experience.

Yes.

This warms my heart to hear.

It is a magical place.

Yeah.

And all fueled by this Dutch billionaire who didn't really know much about Canada.

Did you see at the end, there's like a wall about him?

Yes.

And there are some quotes and like front and center, it says, there's a quote that just says, I didn't really know much about Canada.

And they put that front and center.

They just learned it through miniatures.

I love that.

And his

sons.

Yeah.

That's a thing that would never, that's like you would never have that if that, if there was like an equivalent in America and it was like some foreigner.

And so they would never put, I didn't know much about America as a quote.

People would like be tagging it with graffiti.

You know, people would be like, you know, like lighting the place on fire.

It would be like, how dare you not know anything about this country?

But like the humility of the people to be like, oh, it's great.

You didn't know a lot and you learned some.

Carson,

the thing at the end there is very nice and

it would have been great to read that at the end about him.

Had we not met the man himself in person?

Well, Mitch, yeah, you, you, you, you, you, you, you just went for it, uh, but yes.

Wow.

What do you, what do you do?

What are we just going for sooner or later?

No, it's great.

Because the staff was awesome.

The staff was guiding us through it.

Skylar was guiding us into the space downstairs, introduced everything to us.

Alana, not the knife, a different Alana, helped show us around.

And then we met Sophie.

Sophie was super helpful.

She recognized you from Love.

And

I hope, Mitch, I hope you recognize that I am pushing Twisted Metal to all the Love fans.

You were.

I've been doing that.

Wages is promoting Twisted Metal.

Sophie's going to be watching Twisted Metal.

And Sophie said, I don't know if Sophie will be watching.

Sophie said she's going to watch Twisted Metal.

Gonna get a Teacock account.

Sophie also tells us that Jean-Louis is there today.

Yes.

And we're like, oh, wow, Jean-Louis is there today.

And she was, you know, she didn't arrange anything, honestly.

She just was like, mention this.

And we were just walking around.

And then this guy comes up to us

and he's just like, are you enjoying yourself?

And it was just Jean-Louis just kind of like, like, casually introduced himself.

We had been primed for this.

And so it was like meeting the creator from Ready Player One.

Yeah.

How tall was he?

He's a tall man.

He's a tall guy.

Tall drink of water.

I heard this.

Extremely pleasant.

Extremely pleasant, Waft.

Great head of hair.

He was very presentable.

He looked great.

This all makes a lot of sense.

I have a question for you guys.

Please.

How much did Jean-Louis pay you three to just

praise Little Canada today?

You just happened to meet the billionaire.

You know, podcasters.

There is like thousands of dollars worth of art around in this studio.

Yeah, there is a painting of an hat at right above you that looks pretty good.

I will say there is a certain whimsy.

to Little Canada.

There's a little bit of magic there very much.

As soon as you walk in and it goes day to night, and you're in Niagara.

And Niagara Falls, great place to start off.

Lawrence almost fell in,

which would have been funny if he drowned in Niagara Falls at Little Canada.

It would have been great.

No weather.

There is a day-night cycle that's going through all the exhibits, and they change depending on what time of day it is.

Sometimes there's tides, which, you know,

it's like an incredible level of detail.

Sometimes there's fireworks at night.

And so that's fun.

But yes, the first area you go to is,

it's divided into biomes, and each biome is a different part of Canada.

Some are cities, some are larger geographical regions.

The first one is Little Niagara.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And it's beautiful.

And the falls actually look amazing in there.

They really do.

They look stunning.

Yeah, it's a combination of miniatures and then like some video projection elements.

Yes.

And then there

won't get to the finale, but like there is an actual tide,

water

rising,

rising up in in the Bay of Fundy.

Oh, yes, the Bay of Fundy.

We saw the Bay of Fundy.

Yeah, we came in through the Eaton.

We were at the Eaton Center.

We were at the Eaton Center, which we, this is a call forward.

We've already talked about this, but we thought it was funny because it's the Eaton Center.

Yeah.

We have a podcast about food, right?

Yeah, kind of

basically any place.

I'm not sure if you got it.

Oh, no, you got it.

Oh, the Eaton Center?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Basically.

I got it.

I just

just to check you through it.

It's like basically

any place the Doughboys go is the Eaton Center.

It's like the thing we were thinking.

Yeah,

you know what we're saying?

When you grow up in Canada as a small child, you have to learn about the Eaton Company because it's one of the oldest companies in Canada.

I did not learn it.

It was founded around Peltz.

Oh, wow.

So the Beaver Trade back in the day.

Exactly.

What did you say?

The Bieber Train?

I didn't say the Bieber Train.

I said the Beaver Trade, but the Bieber Train is a whole different thing.

Yeah.

I would rather take the beaver train than the crazy train.

But it's always running late.

It's always running late to say, I'm sorry.

The beaver trade was like a crazy thing because it was like kind of a, I read in the context of a book that was about the huge horrific fire that was in,

I forget which province a few years, I think it was in Alberta, the oil sands a few years back.

And they were talking about like the beaver trade is analogous to the oil industry of just like something that was just like basically just killed off most of the beaver population.

It's the fur trade, the fur trade.

The fur trade is like must crap.

You just killed out an enormous population of animals just because of like you know uh collective greed for and the industrialization of this industry.

And the same thing happened with

oil.

Yeah.

What was what was the moment?

But anyway, anyway, sorry, you were talking about the eaten company, and I was just going to say Doughboys Media is kind of an eaten company.

Okay, so I pulled up the exact same Toronto.

Did you like that?

I loved it.

I haven't been happy with you all day.

That made me,

you're winning me over.

Finally.

Yeah, we're just trying to move on.

So I pulled up that Toronto Life article as well.

And there are a few choice parts of it that I think are very funny.

At the point where Jean-Louis was trying to get investors,

he's quoted to say, as, they thought I was mad.

Yeah.

They thought I was mad.

And then he found one.

He found one investor, McLean.

And do you know what a Moxie's is?

Do you know what a Moxie's is?

No.

What is a Moxie's?

There's a couple Moxie's in America.

Oh, yes.

I do know Moxie's.

Yeah.

It's like kind of like a diner, right?

It's like an upscale

upscale place.

Yeah.

Diner type place.

It's kind of made fun of.

If you're going to Moxie's, it's going to be ironically.

They met for lunch at a Moxie's in a square one to start wrapping their heads about how they could recreate Canada in miniature.

And then it says there was so much to discuss, they decided to meet again at Moxie's two weeks later.

Wow.

And then

when they inked the deal to incorporate, they signed the documents and they asked a Moxie's manager to act as a witness.

Wow.

Well, you can't sign those in Tim Horton.

That's right.

They'll kick it right up.

You're trying to build a little Canada.

And Taylor's like, hey,

this is just for coffee and get it out.

Taylor, did you know that

they plan to expand it like beyond Canada's borders?

Like they have the other provinces and other cities that they're doing, but he says he wants to create a beyond Canada's border crafting Vimy Ridge.

Why are you kidding me so?

Vimy Ridge?

Yeah, I understand what Vimy Ridge is.

You guys know about this?

Tell me about Vimy Ridge.

That meat, what you just said there meant nothing to me.

I had no idea what any of it.

Wow.

No, that's okay.

No, it's just how many thousands of Canadian soldiers died at Vimy Ridge.

Yeah.

Oh, jeez.

Trying to help World War I.

You know, it's just our, it was like our biggest thing.

It's the biggest like battle that specifically Canadians like turn the tide.

Wow, and so this was in the European front?

Yes.

Okay, wow.

Yeah.

So they're going to do a Vimy Ridge.

I don't know how they're going to do that.

Yeah.

I just feel like...

Like little dead miniatures and shit?

Is that what's going to happen?

Because there are things they do show,

they have modeled the Highway of Heroes.

And I watched a video with interview with John Louis discussing that.

The Highway of Heroes is like a thing in Canada where I guess fallen Canadian soldiers are driven down this

one stretch of road and people line up and salute and whatever.

Yes.

And it's like presented with a little bit of, you know, like appropriate.

You know, gravity in the exhibit, but it's also like in miniature.

So it's like kind of, and it's coexisting with Maurice the Moose and things.

Yeah, yeah.

It's just an interesting thing.

I mean, Maurice the Moose wasn't in that part, part, but we haven't gotten to Maurice the Moose yet.

But unlike the marathon, where there's a Grim Reaper at the end of the marathon, little funny things.

There's a lot of, there's a lot, a great sense of humor throughout it, which is part of the functionality.

And the video is just going to have people drowning in mud.

You know, just little miniature soldiers with bubbles.

People like having shell shocking and committing suicide.

It's the classic mini game.

It will be fun to see.

Everyone's going to love it.

Carson, we see, we were asking if I saw what?

The trench foot of the soul.

No, no

no there was another thing you guys said the grim reaper and then you said did you see and then you stopped well did you see all the maurices did you get all

we got to get to maurice but also i want to say jean louis was so nice so nice and how much he wearing

what was he wearing did he smell

a green t-shirt that said clean team on the back so i think maybe he was cleaning some of the miniatures and that's partially what he was doing there because i thought it was interesting that it said clean team.

And I was like, oh, he's the, he built it, but he's here like dustin'.

I used to work with a chef who didn't actually cook, who pretended to cook, but he would come out in a chef's jacket to be like, hi, everybody, welcome.

Thanks for coming to the restaurant.

But he wasn't actually cooking.

So you're saying this is what Jean-Louis was doing?

He's coming out there.

He's like, oh, I'm just doing some work in the back.

Jean-Louis is a good man.

We saw him there.

He was talking with us.

I don't think it was just a photo.

I just want the listeners to understand that Mitch is sitting on a throne of money.

Wow, he is saying these things.

Jean-Louis, look, I'm nervous because Jean-Louis is going to listen to this and then not like us.

I think he had no idea who, like, you know, what the podcast is like or what we're about, but he did very graciously-wise.

I got to talk about this.

There's like an Italian Wall of Fame.

Yes.

You don't have to be Italian.

I'm not, thank God.

But

this Italian section that they're going to put like people who work in film.

It's analogous to an Italian restaurant, how they have all the photos on the walls of all the celebrities.

And so he was like, we have an Italian wall.

And he was a bit starstruck by Mitch, to be honest.

And Mitch was like an, you know, like an actor and was like, oh, we could put you on the Italian wall.

And he offered to put me on the Italian wall, which that's very nice.

John Louis, I accept that offer.

Please put me on the Italian wall.

But then this moment.

So I hear this and I'm like, me and Emma got to get in on this.

So I go to John Louis.

I'm like, John Louis, you know, we got this podcast.

We're going to talk about Little Canada.

The three of us could be in a little podcast studio.

And so he was there.

And then as well,

you could have heard a pin drop in the room.

I think John Louis liked the idea.

John Louis liked the idea, but he was with Camille and Nikki, who were helping him out.

And they gave me the nicest.

They were lovely.

They gave me the nicest.

We can definitely think about that.

Camille was like an executive in Hollywood when you go and pitch an idea and they don't want to talk to you.

Yeah,

she did not like the idea at all.

And I just want to get on the Italian wall.

That's all I want.

I will.

Yeah, but I think, look, I think the Doughboys could be little lies.

I think we'd be able to podcast studio next to the little Tim Hortons, which is in Little Toronto.

I think that would be pretty fitting.

You basically asked a billionaire if you could have a general.

Yeah.

If we could have a Jaguar?

A general.

Oh, a general.

Yeah.

That kind of thing.

I would totally ask a billionaire.

Can I have a jaguar?

Like, of course, the car?

Which would you choose?

Oh, the cat.

Yeah, the key got chooses.

That would be pretty cool.

But the cat's got to drive the car.

The cat's the driver of the, a Jaguar driving a Jaguar.

Like, that's what I mean.

A little hat.

You put a hat on a hat.

As Marshall is a shot.

A shot.

You don't pronounce the T.

Oh, so it sounds like I'm saying shit, basically.

A shot.

A shot.

We should have taken a moment before this and been like, hey, you know, like, this is Lil Canada is a very wholesome thing.

The Lil Canada people we talked to are hopefully maybe going to listen to the episode.

We could have just like not talked about like shit, not talked about like shit and said cusses on this episode.

We could have.

I know, we could have said that in advance.

We didn't.

It's water and a bridge.

Have we said, have we said come?

We have not said come yet.

Yeah, we did say come.

Quick, everybody say it.

John Louis, please.

Sorry, put it on the Italian wall.

And then you know what else to get put on that wall.

That's allowed to come.

Oh, my God.

Jesus Christ.

But it's been littleized, so it's just a small amount.

Mine's always littleized.

Did you get littleized?

We'll get to that.

So I want to say I went to the ROM, the Shah

exhibit at the ROM, and it was fantastic.

I don't know if you saw that.

The Royal Ontario Museum

exhibit.

He offers to put me on this Italian wall.

Wages

chimes in and says, you could probably wear something better when you get littleized.

He offered to littleize me for free.

And then this guy chimes in about how I'm looking like crap.

No, you weren't wearing your Spoon Man uniform, and if you're being represented in like, you know, one to 87 scale or whatever the fuck, like, you probably should be wearing, instead of like, I'm wearing a five forks hat.

You're wearing the five forks hat.

You're not gonna be here to see the forks, they're not gonna be able to make out those details.

Sure, they will.

It depends on what miniature you get.

Five inches, which is very big.

You're a giant in the world of little candidates.

Yeah, five inches is big.

I was just saying and we ended up getting scanned.

It's above average.

Yeah, go ahead.

We ended up being scanned that day anyway, but I was just like, you know, I think people know you as wearing jeans and like a flannel like shirt, like shirt over a hood or over a t-shirt, rather.

He says this is Jean-Louis.

Shut up, would you?

You still got mini-ags.

Are little eyes.

And he's like, you would come back if you want to get littleized again.

So it worked out fine.

I got little eyes.

Here's the thing.

I also told him to check out Twisted Metal on Peacock, which I hope you noted.

Great plug.

I was wearing an outfit that my mom and sister told me never to wear, which is these army shorts and my fish, that little fish white shirt that I wear in this hat.

So do you not just wore it to be littleized?

You wore it on the podcast.

I wore it on the podcast, so I don't care about what I wear on the podcast.

So I've talked to the littleization people about

what you can do in that littleization station.

We talked to Anthony, who was manning the littleization station, a guy we visited.

Great guy.

And there's not a lot you could, I was like, can I crouch?

And they were like, absolutely not.

Yeah.

Can I cross my arms?

No.

That will not work out

when we build your figure.

This is what I did.

Thumbs up.

Give it a thumbs up.

That's perfect.

Yeah.

Yeah, we were told you can't do anything.

And then you see all the examples of other men.

I'm like, that person clearly, like, those people did a group photo.

But, like, some people's clothes get a little jumbled up.

Yeah.

Should we explain what littleized is?

Yes, we'll show you.

Wise asked what some people do.

Like, what's the difference?

He says, yeah, people are getting some mischief.

And he was like, yeah, a lot of people like flip the bird middle fingers.

We just can't use those.

And he said, and then people ask if they can get nude and get get little eyes

they're children here we can't shut down to have you be nude never thought about that yeah but it's just like that's someone's instinct of like yeah i want to be tiny me but like it's not like you go into a room and go like people could still just watch you get nude like yes there are children everywhere

where in little canada are you putting a nude person like streaking across the field like where is the nude

in one of the hotel rooms i guess i think there's there's maybe a version there's maybe a human being who's like i want to be miniaturized of me being nude, and then I want to own that.

Because you can also purchase it.

And so maybe they want to own a five-inch version of themselves.

Hang it on the tree.

Yeah.

I want to say this is a lot of fun.

The green team.

Sorry, just to clarify real quick.

I think people have put it together, but littleization is basically, if you've seen the film Downsizing the Alexander Payne film, same thing.

Same principle.

You get shot down.

You've all seen that.

You've all seen everyone's listening.

We've all seen Daniel.

It's actually shot here.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Wait, was it really?

Yeah, at Little Canada.

Yeah.

yeah, it got littleized and they film it all on like when they're little mini people, and it's shot here in Ontario.

I didn't know

it's like uh, or Honey, I shrunk the kids, it's just you get she gets shrunk down to a small version of yourself, yeah.

Yes, a Wayne Zielinski type of thing, yeah.

Uh, and here it's just one, you get onto one orb.

I told Wikes this: I went, I went 10-1 after uh, when we were done.

You urinated, I urinated afterwards.

Something's wrong with that littleization machine, man.

It fucking it works.

I complained.

to it.

I grabbed Jean-Louis at the end.

I was like, what did you do to me?

Only what you did to yourself.

Optic millionaire with his cape

and monocle.

Yeah,

I think that there's some parts of that machine that work, but it's a very easy process.

You go in, they shrink you down to five inches in this little orb.

It's like 128 cameras in a 360, and they take a picture.

Yeah.

That's like scan you.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It was fun to see the green team working.

They were walking through the land like giants, which was kind of fun.

It's really cool.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So one of my favorite parts is that you can walk around the places where they're building all these miniatures.

Yes.

And talk to these people and ask them how they're, how do they make this.

The train, I'm sure you must have been fascinated by all the train.

The trains are at.

So

let's step through the line.

By the way,

can I also just say that when we went in the Wags and I went into the literalization machine together and that thing was like really like it was like smoking and checking to littalize us was no easy thing.

He tried to stop you.

Too many people.

He was in the gears.

It was bad news.

So we started a little Niagara.

We talked about that.

We go to Lil Toronto.

Now, Lil Toronto has the sky dome.

Now,

what's it called now?

Not the Rogers Center.

Is it called the Rogers Center?

It's the Rogers Center.

Yeah, the Sky Dome.

The Sky Dome is represented.

And inside, there's something like, is it

8,000 different little people just populating the inside of the sky dome?

Some of them you can't even see.

And the dome closes.

And the dome closes.

So there's bits of animation that take place throughout.

And they're playing on the little screen, there's a Jays game that's happening on the screen, a real life Jays game.

1993, like the Joe Carter winning.

Joe Carter winning the World Series with a home run.

And the same thing happens in the, you go to the Scotiabank Arena, which when they started building it, was the Air Canada Center, which is where the Toronto Raptors play.

And

they have the basketball court there.

But then they also have on the Jumbotron, they have, I assume it's, I believe it's the Raptors game from them winning the NBA title.

I maybe missed that.

That's insane.

Yeah, it's crazy.

And so that all that stuff is represented.

They've also got a miniature CN Tower,

and then they've got all sorts of Easter eggs throughout.

And the biggest Easter egg is, as we talking, we were talking about, and as our stickers represent, Maurice the Moose.

Maurice the Moose.

Maurice the Moose.

So there are four different Maurice's scattered in each of the different biomes.

You get a clue sheet.

You get like a map and a clue sheet that tells you where Maurice,

like through text, where Maurice might be located throughout.

And then if you find all of them and it's on the honor system, you get yourself a little sticker at the end.

You guys had to use the hints?

Yeah, we use the hints.

No, I mean, we didn't use the hints.

We didn't understand some of them.

Sure, sure, sure.

Maybe we understood most of them, but okay.

It's a little inside baseball.

Not only can we find every Maurice, I took a picture of every Maurice.

And

I don't know about when you went, but he was dressed up in a Halloween costume

so I'd find so I read the newsletter obviously uh and I heard about these these costumes and I was like how how much did they change how many costumes are there is just Maurice or it's other other things like Halloween themed I think it was just it was just Maurice just but he's also holding like a little pumpkin bucket in his mouth like you know the pumpkin buckets you use to like trick-or-treat and stuff Maurice is the one thing I love it's adorable and that's it's awesome Yeah.

Isn't the one thing you loved?

I mean, okay, no, I have to explain to him.

Taylor's a little bit of a curmudgeon.

I'm not a curmudgeon.

He's a little bit of a curmudgeon.

I'm not just playing the ante for this.

I'm just saying when you go to one of these events with Griffin and Carson and that group, they get so excited and everything's a bit, and you can't enjoy it.

So he creates a little bit of a negative experience.

I just wanted to enjoy it.

It's a beautiful spot.

If I was to bring my nephews and nieces, it would be really, really exciting.

Yeah, yeah, if he didn't want to enjoy it or have fun with friends, no, it was competitive.

It was like, you guys haven't found Marie Set, you loser.

He was running around pushing kids out of the way.

There was also, I gotta say this: there was, besides the Halloween costumes, there Beetlejuice was playing in theater.

Yeah, so there were also

alterations.

Oh, they changed the movie.

They changed what's playing in the movies every time.

I've heard that.

Well, there was Honey Ice Trunk the Kids, and was it Downsizing?

Was it?

Downsizing was one of them.

And they had a bunch of the Incredible Shrinking Woman, but they also had, they had like the bot, they had Bob from Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, who was like represented in miniature inside the theater.

That was a seasonal

guy.

Yeah.

Bob and Phil.

I don't know who the other one was.

One of the other ones.

They came together.

My favorite thing is the fact that there is a Little Toronto in Little Toronto.

Yes, I love that.

Oh, yeah.

You can go to Little Toronto, Little Toronto.

Yes.

And it begs the question that there is a Little Times.

Little Toronto that's found in Little Toronto.

It goes on forever, you're saying.

Shit.

Because they have a little miniature making machine inside Little Toronto.

That's true.

Little Toronto.

That's true.

Right.

The little Easter eggs.

the little funny little easter eggs there oh those are real hoop yeah the the beetles did you see i didn't see the beetle i didn't see the beetles and the beetles well there's four like beetles insects on top of roofs with with uh with uh instruments that's fun and scary if you big eyes

and you see the giant rats that live under the city right yes

yeah yeah yeah i wish those were just bits those were those are those are real they're very real

that's a really tough time for us if you live here beyond november it gets...

Yeah.

You guys are talking about like, you know, like kids having a good time there.

I was looking, I looked over at Wager, and he was looking at Jean-Louis with the biggest smile on his face.

I was having the best time.

Because he just wrote a check for $200,000.

I wish.

So we had a ⁇ so you go from Little Toronto, you go over to Lil Horseshoe.

Now, I wasn't aware of this, the Little Gordon horseshoe.

The Golden Horseshoe.

I wasn't aware of this region.

But Hamilton is within the Little Gorsh.

Hamilton's part of that.

Yeah.

Is this just a part of Ontario?

Is this a region of Ontario?

Well,

you got to realize that 90% of our population is in this one corridor in Ontario.

And the golden horseshoe is a part of that.

And it goes pretty much from Montreal to Ottawa to Toronto to Niagara Falls, Hamilton to Sarnia.

So this kind of represents the regions that aren't major cities.

90% of the population?

Is it just an Ontario?

I thought it's 90% along the border.

Along the border.

Along the border.

Most of our population is hugging the United States, and the golden horseshoe is around that and around the Great Lakes.

Yeah.

So, so you go through that.

There's a bunch of choo shoes that's one thing that's happening there.

Maybe a small representation of your father somewhere.

Oh, my God.

He's there?

I saw him.

Oh, that's awesome.

How big is he?

He's six feet.

Oh, he was that.

He was that huge.

No, he was just there at Little Canada.

And I was like, I'm so disappointed in what you've done with your life, Taylor.

Do you know what I will say?

So, Sophie, who we met, and this was later on, this was in Little East Coast.

I believe it was, yeah, it was Little East Coast.

Sophie said, in miniature, was a representation of the bar where her parents met.

And we got a picture of Sophie pointing at the miniature version of the bar where her parents met.

That's a crazy thing.

She's like, this is like a miniature version of how I exist.

Yeah.

Oh, my God.

It's crazy.

Conceived there?

So I don't know.

Well, we didn't ask.

We didn't didn't get it.

I mean, are the minis doing what we're thinking they're doing?

That's what I'm asking.

Are they there?

I will say this.

They're working on an East Coast.

They're working on the Little West Coast.

I'm sorry, Little West Coast.

There's a bunch of other biomes in development, including Little Rockies, Little North.

The one that's under construction in public is Little West Coast.

And you're seeing people just sort of walk around building this, like British Columbia.

Did you see Little America?

Did you see it at all?

No.

There was a Little America section, too.

Oh, I didn't realize that.

Yeah, it was great.

Oh, there was like, there was a Capitol building.

There was like a little January 6th.

Oh, that's cool.

That's nice.

And Maurice was leading the charge.

Oh, wow.

That's the weird thing about Maurice.

Like, you're like, oh, he's pretty nice.

And then as it goes on, he's like doing more and more kind of fucked up stuff.

Yeah.

The farther you get deeper into Canada, he's just getting, he's just saying I'm real.

I've heard him talk about weird things about vaccines.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

He's super anti-fact.

Yeah, there's a little protest thing there in front of like, yeah, like a like a doctor's office.

They're they're protesting.

It's him and RFK Jr.

Yeah, yeah, RFK Jr.

is riding him and when you find him on time.

Yeah.

And then you see RFK Jr.

is like eyeing him and like licking his lips.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's like, I could throw this into Central Park.

Yeah.

Which is great detail, too.

It is really amazing.

Yeah, there's a little bit of animation.

He's rubbing his belly.

So

you had Lil Golden Horseshoe, Little Ottawa, which is for Americans who may not know this, Ottawa is Canada's capital.

And so we were, I already knew that, but I'm just saying this.

so we're in otta and you see parliament hill didn't care

jay had told i do now because of little candidates it is the most boring part of little candidate but here's the thing we asked jay what his favorite part was of uh who helped us out up to up top what his favorite part of little candida was he was like uh parliament hill and parliament hill in little ottawa is a showstopper because you see parliament and then at night there's a fireworks display and it's a real show

and and one of the the uh other guides there was telling us that uh kids will line up while the fireworks are going off in front of parliament and sing O Canada.

And I was like, that's so beautiful.

Who said that happened?

One of the people who works there.

That's not true.

There's no way there's much of it.

We are not that patriotic.

The bunch of kids being like,

I mean, maybe when school, like a class of third graders comes through on a school trip, I feel so inspired.

Yeah, yeah.

I mean, every time that I've been there, which is twice,

it has really been a melting pot of people coming to see Little Canada.

Did you feel like the national anthem rising in you?

I felt a little patriotic because of the land is, you realize the land is so vast.

It really is

and so small at the same time.

Oh my God, it's coming.

Do you guys, okay, we talked about this one time when we went, was that do you feel tired and then kind of sleepy between the nighttime and the daytime?

Yeah, don't they kind of like trick your body and life for sure does that?

Yeah, you're yawning so much.

Anytime we're turned to nighttime, wise and I would just lay down on the floor

until the morning.

Right?

Yeah, it would happen a few times.

Yeah, yeah, because it's an accelerated day-night cycle, so we were getting great like 11-minute night sleep.

We were wondering

super well-rested.

Yeah, I would hit REM every nine minutes.

Um, we were wondering if, in that world, is it, is, is, is time sped up?

Yeah, is it like you're a bug where it's like you live your entire lifetime in 24 hours?

Is like the sort of thing, like to them, does time, are they they perceive time on a different scale?

Right because how many days would it be just in one day?

How many days would you experience in Little Canada?

If it's nine, what is it?

18 minutes would be a double like that.

Yeah.

I feel like their day is just a

15 minutes?

It's just a nightmare experience.

I think they're living in hell.

Like it is every 15 minutes and like they can't get out of Toronto.

They're like, wait, wait, the horseshoe's here, but where's the highway?

Whenever giants are depicted in media, they're always like moving really slowly, right?

So I think like time is like affecting them differently than us miniatures.

One day in Little Canada, 96 days.

Wow.

Whoa.

That's wild to think about it.

Fuck what?

One day in Little Canada is 96 days.

24 hours.

One of our days is 96 of their days.

And one of our days is 96 of their days.

Yeah.

So

you're living a year and you know, and it's four days.

It's wild to think about.

Yeah, they're in hell.

It's just the punishment.

Your lifetime would be less than than one of our calendar years.

Are you going to be put in there?

Are you going to put yourself through that?

We're talking about it.

We're negotiating with

John.

Yeah, Jake.

You know, I think it might be cool if there's like a little podcast studio.

I don't care about him getting in.

I just want to get put on the Italian wall.

Yeah, I mean, him are in there with Mitch.

Yeah, I think it's a good idea.

But you do get to choose where your mini goes.

We do, yeah.

You get like, I would like to be in this area.

I don't think you get to pick specifically where, but you're like, I'm going to be in Toronto.

Yeah, and you could be put in the Rogers Center or Scotiabank.

I'll just say this:

our weird listeners will come and try to find us at Little Canada.

I'm just saying that, yeah, for sure.

So, if you want to miniaturize us, which we want, clearly,

you'll get a bunch of weirdos who look like us coming in, which maybe you don't want.

Maybe you don't want, maybe you don't want them giving some sort of lewd tribute to the Doughboys in miniature because that could happen too.

Yes, but you don't, you want, you don't want a group of people who are going to come in and start eating the miniatures either, which is what our listeners will most likely do.

Is it cake?

Petit Quebec,

we went through there, and

that was where, look, I was comparing, I thought this was a pretty good analogy, comparing Maurice the Moose to the red coins in Super Mario 64.

Oh, he looks pretty good.

It's pretty good.

And so, and I think, like the red coins in Mario 64, as you get progressed further in the game, the difficulty starts to hide.

The difficulty gets higher.

Petit Quebec,

trying to find Maurice the Moose was pretty hard.

He's pretty tucked away.

And sometimes they'll do a thing where they're like evenly spaced, but with some of the other ones, they'll be like, two Maurice's will be like right next to each other.

So they'll have a huge stretch with no Maurice.

And then all of a sudden, there's two Maurice's.

And he's in these little Halloween costumes, which are so detailed.

It's really so detailed.

Wait, is Quebec the winterized one?

Yes, it's winterized, yeah.

Is he like in a ghost costume?

Like, that would make it real.

I thought he was on the ice.

Like, yeah, he's in the ice.

He's on the ice for one of them.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I love the

traffic jam.

in Quebec.

Traffic Jam's fun.

It's just like where the car is pulling and you can just tell the guy's like, oh, god damn it.

And then he has to turn around.

Those are my favorite of the minis.

Like you can find like realistic things of people just going through their day.

Yeah.

Having a terrible one.

I talked to the, because there's a moment where you can talk to the, uh, there's the miniaturization, like the, the miniature makers section where you have some of the craftspeople who are working and they will talk to you while they're working.

And we talked to them for a bit and they were like, oh, yeah, the, the hotel in, um, in Little Ottawa, right?

That's where, that's where the hotel is is like, like, we each got to do our own room.

And if you look through all the rooms, like some of the rooms are like more like grounded and some of them are just like bananas.

But it's really cool because they all have their own little flair.

And it's just like the sort of thing of like, again, you budget about 90 minutes to get through the whole experience, but you can spend a lot of time there if you're trying to hone in on every single detail that's included and find all the Easter eggs.

They were making a little Maurice there and I picked it up.

I looked under it.

It's really detailed.

I'm saying like

everything down there.

They detail everything.

Yeah, like his hooves and his legs and stuff.

Yeah, that is part of it.

So those are the tails?

Like the tails.

Yeah, yeah, and he's got like some fur on his undercarriage.

Yeah, okay, stuff like that, too.

Yeah, that's cool, yeah.

And that's it, though.

That's it, there's a little bit more.

Okay, well, that's crazy.

Yeah, the antlers got to be there.

Yeah, oh, yeah, the antlers, yeah, yeah, well, he's got the Canadian flag, like the little insignia on it.

Yeah, that's on there, too, yeah, yeah.

That's great, yeah, but yeah, his dick, butthole, his balls,

dick, butthole, and balls.

Wow, that's amazing.

Oh, wow!

Oh, that's irritating, yeah, and he's he's packing heat, too, guys.

You know,

Yeah, they're not going to put Maurice in there unless he's packing.

Yeah, and it's cold.

He's representing.

I did like that.

Like you were saying, like, like Montreal is like colder.

So

it did show that it was like smaller in Montreal.

Like he was.

Yeah.

It's a moose shrinkage.

Yes.

Did you see when they're making where the section where they're making all the stuff?

There's a ton of Maurice's in there.

Yeah.

Yes, yeah, yeah.

We caught every

adding some more Maurice's, but also I think like that as they add more areas.

Yeah.

But I can see them increasing.

They could easily cram in more than four per area because there's more places to take them.

You know what?

I will be back to Little Canada at some point.

I'm coming back.

I'm coming back for sure.

I went six months apart and one whole section was completed in that time.

Wow.

Yeah.

It's really cool.

What is the mall?

It's the Eaton Center Mall that it's in.

No,

it's beneath the Tenner is the name of the center.

What is it?

Across the road from the

center.

Hot tip, there's a Harvey's in that building.

That's great.

Oh, it's a Harvey's.

Wow.

The Eaton Center Mall is like the world.

Of course, there'd be a Harvey's at the Eaton Center.

I liked it.

The Eaton Center Mall is like your famous big mall, right?

Like it's

the famous.

Until you go to Edmonton.

Oh, Edmonton's got the world.

Yeah, Lisa Gilroy is telling us about the world's biggest mall in Edmonton.

A fellow

sketch partner, Lisa Gilroy.

Oh, we were on the Sketchersons together.

We did a show called Sunday Night Live for a few years.

Wow.

Wow.

I love it.

There's also the first mall.

We shoot out near one of the first malls in Toronto, which is a big mall, but it's kind of in the middle of nowhere or like closer.

What's its name?

On the outskirts.

I forget.

It's a mall.

Oh, is it the Yorkdale or York Center?

Yeah, that makes sense.

Which is pretty big.

That's like an actual mall.

Yeah.

The Eaton Center is like...

a central destination to go to.

I love the Eaton Center.

I was having a great time

everyone always hates on things that are just, I'm like, why can't it be cool?

You hate Little Canada.

I did not hate it.

I didn't like the people I was with.

That was the difference.

You know what?

I enjoyed it.

I came into that, my friend.

No, but what did I get against Emma?

Emma was there.

Oh, no, she's great.

Offended.

But the Eaton Center, like...

How dare you say that about me and Emma collectively?

Like when I go to the Eaton Center, like my favorite time.

Now,

this is controversial.

My favorite time to go to the Eaton Center is during Christmas time when it's at its most chaotic wow and it'll be filled to the brim and people are pissed off but i just like feed off of i go there the trick is to go hate yeah well the trick is to go there without any agenda like i don't need to be out of here by a certain time i'm like i'm just he doesn't need any gifts either yeah he just goes

walking around and people like so it's so much fun it's wild i'd be returned to ring light uh

For an audition where I was auditioned to play the role of Bubba the Love Sponge.

This is true.

Hell yeah.

And Joe read as Hulk Hogan.

Samoa Joe, he helped me out with the audition.

Yeah.

I can say it now, right?

Who cares?

I don't know.

Oh, maybe not.

Is that being made?

Was that?

Is that being

made?

I think it may get killed.

We'll see what happens.

I heard it got squashed.

I can say it.

I didn't get the part.

Who gives a shit?

You'd be a great love sponge.

I don't even know if I should say thank you.

The world's famous cup.

I could totally believe someone would fuck your wife.

It was

almost his wife yeah

it was funny the the the audition like people were like anyone who watched it was like damn that hulk hogan's really good i was like yeah someone joe did it yeah it was great actor i know and but i'm saying like they were never said anything about my performances bubbling up sponsors joe knocked it out of the park

it's a possibility he bought togen i think ben affleck but that that speaks to like where our industry is now though that you have to you have to recruit a fellow actor to read opposite you to attempt to get a role Whereas that used to be a process where you go in with like a professional casting person and they give you notes.

Yeah.

Now you have to get your friend to do free labor and shoot it on your own.

It sucks.

It's a nightmare.

So I hated the Eaton Center because I only got in there and walked to Best Buy to return the ring light.

And then I got back and I had like a $15 parking ticket.

I mean, just like to pay to get out of there.

It was like so quickly.

And then I also was like, oh, I'm never going to drive in Toronto again is something that I figured out pretty quickly because I have a rental car and I love it.

That's a train.

That's a choo-choo destination.

Yeah,

I've driven in that my rental car like three times total.

But there's like a rail stop right under the center.

And walking through there, it was like, oh, this is nice.

If I had trained here, I would have liked it a lot.

What is the theme park?

Speaking of, we're in this world.

Wonderland?

Wonderland.

Oh, that's cool.

Did they make a movie about Wonderland, right?

Or no?

No, you're thinking like Jesse Eisenberg.

Oh, yeah, is that not it?

But it was like similar.

Yeah, it's called the same thing, right?

Adventureland.

Adventureland.

Yeah, but Wonderland's like our like

big, big amusement.

We took Griff and a couple of the New York boys this summer.

Do you guys know Cedar Point in Ohio?

Yeah, we know Cedar Point.

I've never met.

They own Wonderland.

Oh,

but it used to be a Paramount

amusement park.

So every ride used to be tied to a movie.

But Paramount lost it

and they're all named something different now.

But we all know it like that ride is the top gun.

But now it's called the light deck, but it's you know what it is.

Wow, that's wild.

I love that.

I wish I should have.

Well, there's still time.

Is it still open or is it closing?

Well, actually,

they're switching to Halloween Haunt, which

is roller coasters in the dark.

Interesting.

It is quite good.

And a lot of haunted houses.

Yeah.

And they're really, really good.

It's quite amazing.

Let's check it out.

Little East Coast encompasses Halifax, or I'm sorry, Nova Scotia, more generally,

Prince Edward Island, Newfoundland, and Labrador.

What am I missing?

New Brunswick.

Yeah,

it's got all the provinces that are over on the east coast of Canada.

And

you're walking through there.

This is where they have the section where the tide rises and falls with

the day-night cycle, which is really cool to see.

Where Sophie's parents' bar is.

Oh, yeah.

But yeah.

That's where the.

And

the night's young.

The lights are off at the old.

Nine Nine minutes.

Nine minutes

to conceive.

Man,

how long would I last in Little Canada?

How many milliseconds?

I mean, milliseconds is even probably pretty good.

Yeah, honestly.

In Little Canada.

In Canada?

You'd be a

stallion.

By the way, speaking of Paramount,

just want to give a little plug.

Twisted Metal, Paramount Plus up here in Canada.

Oh, how about that?

It's on a different network.

I've been been telling people to subscribe to peacock so if he's gonna sign up for the wrong free trial you messed up i have paramount now listen paramount if you're if you're listening to this uh

upload your survivor episodes the day after not not a week after please wow

cars i got good news for you oh actually bad news they don't listen

paramount's not listening at all

yeah

that that is annoying they should upload the day after i agree with you um there were there was a little bite section, but like I was hoping there'd be more of like a little gimmick to it, but there doesn't seem to be.

The pizza was kind of small.

The pizza was kind of small, but it wasn't.

It was an ice cream that was kind of small.

But it wasn't like they had like a bunch of a teeny tiny cookie or anything like that, which I thought could be fun.

So we didn't really have any of the little bites, but we just sort of walked through it.

And everyone there was lovely to talk to.

You didn't have the Moose Tracks drink?

No, we didn't.

We should have.

There's like a bubble tea-esque drain.

That's fun.

And it's like Maurice's piss.

And shit.

And his shit and shit.

I'm not joking about this.

This actually exists.

You can get a Moose Tracks drink.

Wow.

But it's not his piss and shit.

It looks like it's supposed to be.

Well, Moose Tracks.

It's not transplicit.

Yeah,

you're right.

It's not his footprint.

Yeah.

It's true.

I would have loved this.

We should have done it.

You know what?

Maybe we have to go back.

You know, what's crazy if you look, because there is that part in the snow and you can see Maurice's moose tracks, and there's like, you know, there's the hoof prints, but then there's just like a long long dragon

behind him.

And there's like a little quote, like kind of like that Jesus quote, where like, there's one set of footprints.

I was carrying you.

And it's like, when there's no line, it was cold, it was cold.

What is the line?

What is this line?

There's no line, it wasn't Maurice.

You're in Little Quebec.

I absolutely love this place.

I thought it was so cool.

I was just smiling the whole time.

Emma, you had a great time, right?

I loved it.

And I was 30 minutes late to meet Mars because I couldn't leave.

And Mars, you've been to Little Canada before.

I've been there.

I loved it.

I'm so glad you guys went.

I'm so glad you guys enjoyed it too, because I wasn't sure if you're coming from out of Canada, if you'd still appreciate it as much as us Canadians do.

So it makes me really happy.

I feel like almost like as an outsider, there's like a level of appreciation of just like, oh, wow, look at how rich and fertile this land is, which you know is part of the exercise.

Oh, look at how, like, I don't really know what Canadian parliament looks like.

You're getting me nervous about how fertile the land is.

I'm going to do it.

Very fertile.

Oh, Jesus.

I could breed with this land.

I want to know because there's also like a little Hamilton.

There is a Hamilton.

I wish I could get shrunk down and be with that working class city.

I love that.

It was fantastic.

They did have the original Tim Hortons in Little Hamilton.

We talked about putting, if they don't build us a podcast studio, we could go be at the Little Tim Hortons.

The original Hortons.

That's right.

It's a good place to do it.

You've never been there, though, so that's kind of, you know, still invalidated.

Well, there's a Tim, there's a Tim Hortons in Toronto, too, Little Toronto, right?

Or is there, they're just.

I think it was just in Hamilton.

Okay, then I missed it.

Although there might be one.

That's possible.

Watching the live show and talking about Tim Hortons, do you guys know why Tim Horton is famous in hockey?

He was a defenseman, right?

You know, was his big claim to fame that we wouldn't have without Tim Horton?

What's that?

The slapshot.

The slapshot is Tim Horton.

He invented the slapshot.

That's amazing.

The movie Slapshot maybe wouldn't exist.

Oh, no, I thought you meant he directed Slapshot.

Created the movie Slapshot.

The Slapshot was

a move that he popularized.

Wow.

That's really cool.

Yeah, I could never do a Slapshot timing.

He might have been drunk.

And then

that's when he was.

We heard a lot about him being drunk.

Yeah, yeah.

It's how he passed.

Yeah,

the land does look really fertile.

I noticed a few snow patches in the Toronto, which is not winter-themed wagons.

So I don't know if you got your hands in there.

I think you were in there with the green team.

There was a little space where

there was like a mission control area.

There was the area with the people who were actually crafting the miniatures.

Yes, yes, yeah.

And then there was also, there was also just this section where, what did you say?

The miniature makers.

The miniature makers, yes.

And then there was also the section where you saw the cars go,

the buses and the cars go into this little area that was kind of a control center.

And and they would like turn around and be in there and then leave.

Yeah, I don't think we've maybe not made enough a meal about how many vehicles there are.

Not just

trains in motion, but cars.

They're moving.

And they're all moving.

They all have cycles.

They all have a lot of the maid of the mist at Niagara Falls goes out and goes into the falls and just really active.

That was a moment for me.

I think we should rank this out of forks for real, but this is,

that's what happened for me.

I went, when I walked into Little Niagara, it was on already.

I see the maid of the mist

moving through, and I was like, This is incredible.

The boat is moving.

I didn't know that the boat would be moving, and that's all it took for me.

But a lot of Canadians, I'm like, I'm going to Little Canada.

They're like, What are you talking about?

A lot of Canadians still don't know what this place is.

So, how many people were in there, would you say, at the same time as you?

Not many, two dozen, maybe?

It wasn't like hugely populated.

It was really busy the way we went.

I heard that they need at least like five to seven thousand people in and through there to break even per day

a day.

That's a lot.

That's no way possible.

Well, here's the thing, and I'm not saying this, John Louis.

But is this some sort of tax haven sort of situation?

Is

like

is little Canada, can you can is that like a city that you can claim or something?

I don't live in Canada, I live in little Canada.

It's got to be hemorrhaging money, it's got to be

taxes, right?

Exactly, exactly.

They're in 196th, 187th.

Here's what I would say.

If this is purely a vanity project, if this is purely something he's singing his own money into, or if this is some sort of tax dodge, whatever it is, I think it has a wholesome quality to it.

I think it is employing a lot of people who do a very specialized line of work.

He's doing God's work.

I think versus like having some bullshit charity that's like, oh, yeah,

this is the advancement of people fund, and it's just like funneling money and it doesn't actually do anything.

Like, fancy research, whatever.

Exactly.

Yeah,

so some bullshit charity

versus something like that, versus like one of these open scams or like some, you know, like some fake product or whatever,

some bullshit Kickstarter.

At least this is, this guy is something tangible that people enjoy and appreciate.

I agree with like this.

This is like, well, think of like any hobby.

You have like or like people who make little trains at home or like, or like get paint minis and like DVs, stuff stuff like that.

How have you not started that yet?

You don't do that?

I've thought about getting into like Warhammer figurines or like making like fucking building Gundams or something like that.

I'm a big D D guy.

Are you really?

I love minis.

Yeah.

But

that's just terrible.

It's just so cool, but I'm just also like, where like, I'm going to get obsessive about it and where I'm going to put all this shit.

That's my issue.

And this is the thing is, if I had the money,

and I was like, and you know what?

It's just like, I want to make a little thing.

And everyone would be like, that's crazy.

Taylor, you can't just make miniature Brigaden and Brigham.

No one's going to go see it.

But they might like it.

no, no.

I like it.

Maybe 12 people a day might come and see it.

Yeah, 12 people in Briggin.

Maybe like people asking for directions because they're lost out in the middle of Southwest Ontario.

Gas Station LCBO.

The Gas Station LCBO is right there.

This town has three streets.

But go, Taylor, sorry, I interrupted you.

Are you done saying what you were going to say?

I'm sorry.

No, I was just saying, I mean,

it could be a vanity prize, but it's one of those things.

If you can do it, why wouldn't you?

Like, yeah, I can build this thing.

I have money to.

It's not hurting the world.

I think it's

adding a richness and color to the world.

He's

a Disney figure.

No, I never met Walt Disney, so fuck Disney.

I, I, I,

Jean-Louis is great.

I love Jean-Louis.

Um, fantastic guy.

This, this trip was look, I'm just gonna say it, five forks for me.

Five forks for low, five forks for Lil Canada, five little forks for little Canada.

Five little forks from Lil Wags.

Like on my hat.

Yeah, I, I, I just absolutely thought this was so great.

I will, I want to go back.

I can't wait for more of it to be built.

I can't wait to see all of the stuff that's added and changed.

Carson, how about you?

Five forks.

Five forks.

As soon as I came into Little Canada, it was that wow factor as well.

Like as soon as I saw the falls, I was like, oh, this is different than I thought it would be.

I was ready to make fun of this a lot.

And I'm actually having a nice time.

And it does have that sense of wonder that you

want that you had as a child when you were like building stuff, you know?

Yeah.

Five forks,

moose, plus moose tracks.

Wow.

Yeah.

And moose and the line, too.

Yeah.

Taylor,

don't be pressured.

Just say what's in your heart.

I'm feeling the pressure.

Yeah.

Everyone's, I mean, Carson, you're talking about this whimsy, the magic of child.

You were stiff-arming kids running through that place.

We had to find Maurice.

I know.

Yeah.

But, you know,

in the spirit of Little Canada, I'm going to give it five little forks.

Wow, five little forks.

Wow.

Wow.

It's a sign of the Platinum Plate Club.

Wow.

Wow.

Platinum.

It's a little, little platinum plate.

There's a little guy.

A little tiny platinum plate.

That's so cute.

Could be part of our podcast tableau.

Oh, so cute.

They don't like it.

They're also going to expand into space.

Are they going to make the Canadarm?

Yes, they're going to make a Canada arm.

And not the rest of the...

And the International Space Station and a little Chris Hadfield.

A little Chris Hadfield.

Wow.

Plings.

from

Metallica?

Don't you remember the guy who

was like, oh, James Hatfield.

Who's also American?

The astronaut who played David Bowie in space.

Oh,

yeah.

Oh, okay.

It's our favorite.

I did think, I did, I was thinking James Hetfield.

What would be a good name for that?

Um,

that heavy metal sandwich spot or whatever it is.

Oh, the heavy metal sangria bar?

Yeah.

It'd be like, like, you know, I'm just thinking of like Slayer's rainy.

Slayer Sangria.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

So, oh, yeah.

Well, Slayer Sangria.

That's like that's like a near rhyme.

But I was just thinking of like raining blood.

If it was like raining Sangria, I don't fucking know.

Rage?

No.

Sick.

Yeah.

I was trying to think.

Tanagria.

Oh, there you go.

You know what?

Satan and Sangria.

That's the way to make a portfolio.

Sangria?

Yeah, that's the way you make a portmento.

That's the way to get it.

I was trying to put Panini and Pantera together, but it's not a Panini.

It's not a sandwich place.

Oh, no, but whatever.

It could be.

What's Dude, they have.

It's Sangrias and Panini.

I want to say, what were you going to say?

I was going to note one thing.

There was a little bit of a kerfluffle because Mitch was telling everyone that there was a Maurice the Moose that I missed and that I didn't actually deserve my.

She missed one.

I saw it.

It was underneath the Hamilton Globe.

I saw it.

I also helped you spot out additional Maurice's.

I helped you spot additional Maurice.

I know.

I know.

I'm just saying, this was a collaboration.

You missed one of them.

You're just saying I missed one of them and I saw it.

I saw it.

And this is not Stolen Valor.

I earned the sticker.

I explained to everyone who you said I didn't see where that Maurice was.

And I saw it.

And if we look at it.

It's online poll.

If you believe, watch.

I'm telling the truth.

You never lie about that.

That Maurice and Vimy Ridge is going to be so disrespectful.

Him stomping German.

We have to ask you one last thing.

We were talking about some financial stuff, money.

What is Toonie diving?

Oh, my God.

Yeah, this is Driven.

Driven told us to not look it up and then also ask it.

I told him that we, this is a little blue for us.

But okay, okay.

So we're very level for the

bomb.

You guys have ones.

You have bills in America.

We have a lot of coins.

We love our coins.

You've seen the Toonie,

which is the $2 coin, correct?

Yeah, Carson, explain this in detail.

So if you go to a strip club

and you don't have fives, if you don't have tens, you don't have 50s,

you have toonies,

how would you think a stripper would take.

What are you doing?

You wanted to ask the stripper.

You hold it in your mouth?

You hold it in your mouth.

You lay on the stage.

And strippers are fully naked.

Oh my God, Griff.

I will see this.

What are you doing?

At 19 years old, 20 years old, the first thing he came together was like, I want to go.

I want to go to the pretty strip.

And we're like, we're not going.

No.

It's not a real thing.

And I don't think it's a real thing.

Yeah.

We just had heard about it.

Oh, people have done it.

Griffin, you naughty little dog.

What the hell?

I used to work in the strip club in Sarnia, Ontario for two shifts.

Two shifts.

I could not.

What did you do?

I was the DJ.

You were a strip club DJ?

I was a DJ, yeah, for two shifts.

Dollars.

Dollars clap louder than hands.

I did exactly that.

And the first day I did it, the waitresses, because I worked in the theater.

The waitresses were like, you're the best one who's ever done this.

Wow.

Sarnia, Ontario.

Sarnia, Ontario.

Because you had some showmanship.

Exactly.

Yeah.

But I knew that I could not keep doing it because i i knew a teacher that had taught me would come in for sure at some point i thought your mother pulled you out of that uh she said that i i keep working yeah it was it was beneath me yes but i was hard-pressed yeah i love it wow that's cool what did you have any technique did you like were you doing what what did you have anything you remembered saying or were you just were you there for such a short stretch that it's always kind of a blur it was a blur uh i remembered like all the names were destiny or brooklyn or whatnot and there would be a window out to the stage and the audience, and then there would be a window to backstage.

And the and I was quite young, I was probably like 19 at this

time,

and I didn't, I didn't have a lot of experience with

19 years old, and I would not do well as a strip club DJ.

I don't know if you're going to work as a strip in a strip club in the States.

You might be able to work in under 21.

I don't know.

It probably depends on the facility.

But the women were also sometimes kind of really nice to me.

they would be like oh we want to see who the new person working is and and

i just didn't know where to look and but i wanted to be nice and polite and talk to them uh but they were fully naked right beside me oh wow

look at their forehead yeah well it was just like

great overtime yep just djing just that's kind of how wives talks to everyone if it makes you feel better oh yeah yeah I don't know.

I don't know what it would be like to work at a strip club, but all I want to say is that I think tunie diving should be added to the Olympics.

That's all I know.

I can't wait to see how the Australians do it.

What was the name of the strip club?

It's called the Port,

the River Port.

The River Port.

Wait, where was this again?

In Sarnia, Ontario, the cancer capital of Canada.

Hold on, the River Port in Sarnia.

It's in Little Canada.

Maurice is there.

Yeah, Maurice is dead center.

He's not dancing.

He's tuny diving.

Next to Mr.

Whitlock.

Is he one of your teachers?

Griff, you should have asked

me.

This was a little Canada episode.

This was a thing that you wanted us to talk about.

It was wholesome up until this point.

Yeah, this is really good.

We're having a nice time, Griffin.

Thanks a lot, Griff.

Thanks, Griff.

Yeah.

Five forks for a little Canada.

Five forks for a little Canada.

And hey, you know, five forks for our two new friends, for first-time guests, but

not last-time guest.

We'd love to have you.

Old friends and a new friend.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Of course.

Taylor Davis, Carson's Pitch.

Thank you so much for being here.

Anything you'd like to plug?

You can find us at Carson and Taylor.

We are a sketch duo, but we started doing magic two years ago, and now people won't let us stop doing that.

I mean, that's why the Doughboys picked us.

I mean, we were getting really up there.

You guys really know how to pick your guests.

I mean, we're a huge get.

Guys, we're thrilled to have you.

We're wrapping up here, but I'm not going to let it happen.

Yeah.

I'm not letting us wrap up.

Carson brought chips.

That's right.

And we are going to taste at least some of these chips before we say goodbye.

All right.

What do we have here?

Okay.

So, really quickly.

Yes.

I'm going to show you for three seconds something we do in our show.

Please.

Oh, my God.

That was amazing.

Holy shit.

Holy shit.

That's right.

Real magician.

That's just a little taste.

A cane just flew out of Taylor's hand and hit me.

That's how good I'm a magician.

We are.

Our audio listeners have to watch, find that, find the video of that.

That was spectacular.

So we have our regular, like, by the way, this is kind of, this is kind of what it looked like.

Not a lot of girth.

Length is length.

It's very impressive.

It's very good.

Lace girth.

This is what matters.

This is the best ketchup chip you can get in Canada.

The latest ketchup chip.

I have had that kitchen chip.

So we have tried those, but you said there was more that we.

So the no-name is a very distinct Canadian one.

This is cheddar bacon.

Wow.

We got to try those.

Love that.

Now, the best regular ripple cut is going to be the no-name.

This is going to be the brand is called no-name.

It's just called no-name.

Wow.

And then

I know some people here are a bit of a heat seeker.

Oh, hell yeah.

So we got Spicy All Dressed.

I was eyeing the spicy.

Spicy all dressed in the States.

Wow.

I can't wait.

We've had all dressed before.

We have had all dressed.

Yeah, we had all dressed.

It must be popular.

Classic Canadian flavor dill pickle.

Love it.

Yeah, all dressed is you can't get all dressed in the states, but we've had it in Canada and Canadians have sent it to us and we love it.

I wish it was available in the States.

We got a Miss Vicki's Applewood Smoked BBQ.

These are this is great.

That one's actually really good.

I buy those off.

Carson, only one we've had is the ketchup chips.

This is fantastic.

A spicy dill pickle.

Wow.

Wow.

Can we do a quick chips and hail?

Okay, let's do a real quick chips and hail.

All right, we're going to do a quick chips and hail.

I'm going to start off off to the bottom.

No bag too big, no bag bag too small.

If you got chips, just call.

Chit-chip-chip, chips, inhale.

Rest you range, chit-chi-cha-chips, inhale.

Every flavor, it doesn't matter fail.

I forget the rest of the list.

Oh, you did get it.

I'm a fixing of post.

I'm biting into these cheddar bacon potato chips.

I'm starting with a spicy all dress.

These are Ruffles brand.

Oh my God.

I love it.

These are wonderful.

Spicy all this.

What a revelation.

Really good.

Also, these are official chips of the Toronto Raptors.

How about that?

Wow.

I'm going to say this.

Mars, have you had the spicy all-dress?

Are you a bit of a heat seeker?

Love it.

Yeah.

I'm going to spend Tussie's your way.

Or do you want to have some?

Oh, yeah, yeah.

I'm going to say this.

These are the only bacon chips I've ever liked.

Cheddar bacon chips.

Yeah.

I don't think I've had these.

I generally don't like a bacon flavor.

I do like that.

Terms apple with smoked by the feel.

I'm going to try to do a little less, less chip, less crinkling and chip crunching in the microphone for the mesophoniacs.

I'll cut it.

Now that is the most addicting like regular chip that we that is a great regular chip.

Just a straight up

ripple cup.

I mean, I've had all of these, so I'm just enjoying a snack.

I have had the spicy dill pickle and Ms.

Viggies.

We do have this in the States.

This is a great flavor.

I've gotten this at Jersey Mike's.

When I was a so when I was a kid, I grew up in Southern California, and one thing we would do is like school fundraisers is,

we did this in, in Boy Scouts, too, and this was actually the context where we did this fundraiser.

So live studio, you'd be a live studio audience for a TV taping, and then they would like give your school or give your organization money.

So we went as Boy Scouts, we'd like go to live TTV tapings for in my like sixth grade class, we like went to like Family Feud.

In Boy Scouts, we went to like a live, it was like a Dick Clark's Battle of the Bands.

And

I don't remember the name of any bands, but I just remember the one group that all the Boy Scouts loved and the whole crowd like fucking loved.

And we're like, this is the best band.

It was like, it was a ska band.

And they had a song that was like where the chorus was

ripple chip and onion dip.

Ripple chip and onion dip.

Ripple chip and onion dip.

And the song was called Barbecue.

I was just about going to a barbecue and it was just like a ska punk jam about having a good time at a barbecue.

And we're all like, we love this.

This is so great.

And then the band that won was like some, like, you know, this band that had like a song called like, get your funk on or whatever.

And it was just like, like, everyone's like, all right, kind of, I guess they were better musicians but it was one of the it was it was one of those things where you see you saw the divide between the panelists like the professional evaluators and then the the the masses in terms of enthusiasm yeah it was one of those things a lot of these this all dress ruffles spicy all dress ruffles

one of my favorite chips it's weird it's a fantastic chip it's one of my favorite chips of all time great great spice you're right it's like a bass an all-timer for me yeah it kind of does yeah anyway did you ever find out what band that was no i could never find still remember the lyrics?

Every time I have a ripple chip, I think it's a ripple chip and onion dip.

It was a

very familiar.

It's Oasis.

Oh, that's who it is.

Right, right.

They're going to do it in their reunion tour.

Oh, yeah.

That's a huge

seeing through Instagram now the people getting Oasis tickets.

I'm like,

were you guys fans of Oasis before?

Or is it just because, like, they're back?

I don't know.

I wasn't really.

That's a great question.

I gotta try those guys.

I had the same question.

I was like, I didn't know this many of you were fans of Oasis.

100%.

They're fine.

Yeah.

They're fine.

But I'm not fighting for a ticket.

No.

Fantastic.

Just playing my favorite.

I found out in the process.

Two of my friends,

my get blank goes, Tether Ann Campbell and Madapadaka are both huge Oasis fans.

I may have known this for years, but they were both so excited about Oasis tickets.

And Heather's actually like, I'm going to London to see Oasis, like making a trip out of it.

I'm just

passionate fans.

Heather is.

Heather and Campbell.

That's great.

Apparently, they're playing Edinburgh Fringe.

Wow.

Really?

Yeah.

And I'm like,

they're playing one of the opening nights in Edinburgh for the fringe.

And it's like, oh, you're taking away from so many of the artists there.

Wait, this is a real thing?

Yeah,

no.

I actually heard about this too.

They're actually opening for Matt Kowalik's one-man show.

Tales from the Hole.

He's very rapid.

He's a rat man.

Lives in a wall.

Man, this no-name, this brand is a revelation.

I did not know about this at all.

Mars, do you know?

No, no, name at all?

Yeah, oh, yeah.

Very beloved brand in Toronto.

Very cheap, too.

These are good.

Everyone loves no name.

These are awesome.

Yeah, they're good.

These dills are

nothing but good things for us.

I'm going to say this.

That's my last one I got to try.

There's the last bag I got to try here, the dill pickle no-name.

Every one of these chips is a snack.

I liked every single one of them.

Some more than others, but every single one of these chips are good.

I have the bacon left.

Wags, every chip is a snack.

Yeah, they're all great.

They're fucking good.

Would you say any of them are whack?

No, they're all good.

I mean, I have ones I like more than others.

The all-dressed, spicy all-dressed are the best.

Those are the winner for me.

Yeah, spicy all-dressers

can kill them.

I love those Miss Vickies that you were.

The apple smoke beverages.

I like Miss Vickies in general.

These are real good.

And bacon chips usually are bad.

Those are great.

These remind me of there used to be a cracker that was like a cheddar cracker with a bacon tinge to it.

It might have been better cheddars with bacon

that I remember enjoying.

But I actually kind of like artificial bacon flavor.

I think these are working for me.

You ready for my top three?

Yeah.

The Spice Hell dress.

Yep.

Those Miss Vicky's

smoky,

what is it?

The Applewood barbecue.

Yep.

And the Ripple Cut No Name.

Ripple Cut No Name is great.

These are actually the dill pickle no-names are probably my least favorite, but I still think they're good.

Do you get do you get dill pickle down there?

We have dill pickle chips.

I don't know.

Are dill pickle chips as popular in the states?

Maybe not as popular, but but we have them.

You can get, you can get them at like a sandwich shop or a grocery store.

Um, I think the wait, have y'all had, just had the spicy all dressed?

Yeah, but I love them.

We'll circulate some of these.

Just take it, just do it, keep in the oven.

We'll circulate circulate some of these and we'll let

more of them over there post-record because we're wrapping up.

This is awesome.

Thank you for bringing this King's Bounty of Chips.

What a bunch of chips.

Thanks for watching.

Your new friends, my old friends.

How fun is this?

We're new friends.

Anytime.

Are you guys going to come back?

We'll figure out a chain we can review.

We'll put maybe when we're up here, or maybe we'll figure out something that's in both the U.S.

and Canada.

We can do it remotely.

We'll figure it out.

Anytime.

But this was awesome to have you here.

And hey, we have a little special surprise for everyone, a little special bonus.

A little conversation with Jean-Louis, the mastermind behind Little Canada.

Enjoy.

Wow.

Hey, buddy, we welcome now founder and chief visionary officer of Little Canada, Jean-Louis Brennickmeyer.

Jean-Louis, thank you so much for joining us.

Oh, it's a pleasure to be with you.

Thank you for the invitation.

We were just so enchanted by Little Canada.

We all had a great time, and our guests for the podcast episode did as well.

So Little Canada opened in August of 2021, so it's just been over three years.

You were telling us that Little West Coast, which was a region that was under construction when we were there, has just opened as of basically, you know, very, very recently.

Like, how has Little Canada grown since its opening?

So, we opened back in August 21 with what we call destinations.

We opened with five destinations.

That was the critical mass that we needed in order to open to the public with a what we call a 90-minute experience

and since opening we've added two new destinations

and that is little east coast which we opened last summer and then we opened this year literally last week Thursday we unveiled little west coast

and so now we actually talk about a two-hour experience versus a 90-minute experience.

Yeah,

I think we all felt we wish we'd budgeted more time because we we went around and we saw everything and we we saw all the destinations and we found all the maurice the mooses uh which i do want to ask about um but uh but i like like there's just so much to see there is there a is there a particular detail jean louis i just just just a heads up nick i don't think found one of them i i did find all of them mitch thinks i cheated at finding maurice the uh the moose but i did find i did find uh the one that was in hamilton that you thought i did i don't know how you feel about him getting the sticker still so i just want to check with you I deserve the sticker.

It's not stolen by me.

Okay.

Is there a detail about Little West Coast that you have a particular fondness for?

Well, I'm particularly fond for a number of details because Little West Coast is what I call the bookend of the experience.

So it comes right at the end of the two-hour experience.

And the team has introduced a number of new elements, which we've not done before.

And the one that really stands out is the mist that comes down the mountains of the Rogers Pass.

Wow, wow, I love that.

Yeah, really, really cool.

A second one is there's an orca that comes out of

the

out of the water and then disappears back into it.

And the same goes for pod of dolphins.

And these are all animations that the team over the last 18 months have developed just for Little West Coast.

Really, really cool.

I think that I was so surprised by how immersive the experience was.

And, you know,

if you go to the exhibit, you see, you know, a part of your inspiration for it.

But was there anything, because for me, when I walked in there,

I...

I'll tell you, Jean-Louis, I was skeptical at first.

And Little Canada completely won me over.

This is the truth.

I loved it.

And I think that it's just such a magical experience when you walk in and you see Niagara Falls and then you're really just, you're thrown into it.

Was there any inspiration behind that?

It reminded me of kind of going to Disneyland or Disney World when I was younger and seeing stuff like that.

Was there any inspiration like that that made you make the exhibit or wanted it to be immersive like that?

Well, it really dates back to when I was growing up in Europe.

My family, we lived in the UK and of Dutch parents.

My parents were Dutch and my grandparents all lived in the Netherlands and so in the summer my father would take us to the Netherlands to visit our grandparents on both sides and we always every year visited a place called Maduro Dam which is in a way it's a journey of discovery through the Netherlands in miniature.

It's outdoor, it's much larger.

But it was really when my father would tell us stories about his

youth growing up in the Netherlands.

And so

my sister, my brothers and I,

we learned so much about the country just through storytelling.

And that was really the inspiration for this.

The whole idea is that

we tell stories through the exhibits that we built.

But what's really magical is when

parents with their kids and the parents start to tell stories to the kids about

what is prompted by what they see.

So, the West Coast is a beautiful example of that because

there are elements about Canada as a country that most people don't know.

I never knew that there's a desert in British Columbia on the West Coast, that there's a tropical forest,

that there's old-growth trees.

That actually, Ryan Reynolds grew up in a house in Vancouver, which we actually depicted and put into the world just for the Wow.

The birthplace of Deadpool?

Is it Little Deadpool?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Wow.

Yeah.

So we actually have a little Deadpool of him in front of the.

So

there is a bit of tongue in cheek and some humor which is integrated into the experience.

And as you mentioned earlier, there was there's Maurice and Maurice is traveling through now is discovering Little West Coast because Little West Coast is new

now you

the reason we have Maurice in the world is really just to as a facilitator for the guests to discover what we've built so people are looking for Maurice but at the same time they're discovering things that we've put into into the destination

right

it's done extremely well we we we were we we wanted to find every maurice and and we did, except for Nick, for one.

I found all of them.

We felt great about Maurice.

He's a little cute little guy.

I loved it.

Jean-Louis, I got to ask:

Nick and I, we got littleized.

Has the machine been able to littlize us?

Is it still working in overtime to shrink us down to size?

Well, it takes about three weeks, three to four weeks.

Okay.

Okay.

Shrink you.

So we took,

imagine that.

We took 128 pictures of you all at once

from different angles.

Too many, I'd say.

Yeah.

And so, yeah.

And so those 128 pictures have to be morphed into one, into one file.

And then it needs to be cleaned, because there are elements that you want to remove.

to clean the file and then it gets sent to a printer and the printer takes depending on the size of figure that

you buy,

the three-quarter and the two and a half inch are what we are made from resin.

And so you're actually lying down on your back on the bed of the printer.

And then we're just layering.

It's a bit like, you know, when you have a CT scan or an MRI,

it's the reverse.

We're kind of just layering on top, on top.

Whereas the five-inch version is made on Gibson.

And so that's in a bed of powder, of Gibson powder.

And a laser

basically bonds the Gibson

into your figure in color.

Wow.

Those looked really spectacular.

The big boys.

I definitely want one of those.

But yeah, no,

I mean,

that being also close to the end, and the idea that you can be a part of the exhibit is so cool.

It's such a fun bonus to people.

I think it gets people so excited that they don't realize that you can be a part of this exhibit once you leave.

And that's so fun.

And you can be a part of it for eternity because it will outlive

like my father, who passed away three years ago.

He's in the world.

Sorry.

And he's been there.

Oh, wow.

Yeah.

So he's beautiful.

As it were, immortalized in our world.

Yeah.

That's amazing.

I love that.

Yeah, that's great.

One thing we were struck with when we were just, you know, beyond the exhibits themselves, beyond the destinations, which are so meticulously crafted and, like you said, had it have like this tongue-in-cheek sense of humor that we were not expecting.

But it was just talking to the people who work there.

There's such an immense pride and enthusiasm in Little Canada, like an eagerness to show off their favorite parts of each destination.

Like,

how much of that comes from just like people having a per your staff just having a personal investment in Little Canada?

Because

I was just like, it seemed like everyone was so genuinely excited to work there.

Well, it's two things.

One is

giving them the freedom to express their

art,

their feelings about the country.

Many guests have asked me, well,

who decides on all the little detail?

and we say no one we don't it's the chateau laurier you may recall seeing the chateau laurier with all the the rooms and in each room right the hotel yeah the hotel and yeah and in each room there was a scene

it's not like that someone or me or anybody else sat behind a desk and started to decide okay i'm going to put this in this room i'm going to put this in this room what we did is we just said to everyone in the team

create your own room.

You decide what you want to put in the room.

We told them what they're not allowed to put in, which are the sin industries.

I call them the sin industries.

Unfortunately, the Doughboys podcast might qualify as a sin industry.

Oh, okay.

That's true.

You could be breaking your own rule.

Sorry.

This was the outcome.

Now, obviously, we didn't want to double up, but so there was one member of the team who coordinated it and i went i i made two rooms actually

um one of them is my

most favorite movie which was shawshank redemption

and so i decided to create a scene of shawshank redemption in the hotel so that's one of them That was you.

That was that was my wow.

Yeah.

Now

I'll um divulge that I didn't do it all on my own because I'm not very good at it, but

but that was that was the only reason why that room with that

Shawshank redemption scene in it is because I wanted to put it in there.

And so that is the case for all the rooms that we have in Chateleurier.

So whether it's West Coast or any other destination, all those little little nuggets and little themes, they are decided in the moment when

the artisan makes

the model and the scene.

They suddenly decide, oh, I'm now going to,

for example, in West Coast, is I'm going to have a big fish

fishing and is pulling out a fisherman out of the water.

I like that.

That's fun.

That's

a lot of fun.

That's not something you can really think about and

design in advance.

It happens in the moment when they are preparing, you know, making it and painting it.

And then, oh, I'm now going to do this.

And then they put it in.

That's fantastic.

Speaking to your staff, to almost everyone that we spoke to, like Nick was saying, was so interested in the exhibit.

You could tell that there was more than just pride.

They actually, you know, they loved looking at it.

And Sophie, I believe it was, Nick, showed us where

where her parents met

in Little Canada, there was a bar, and the personal touch of the staff there, also just having a connection to all of Canada, was fantastic.

It was great.

By the way, for our listeners, we should say that Mitch lost his voice a little bit.

That's why he sounds a little hoarse.

It's because Mitch and I had a huge fight before the episode, before we did this interview.

So that's why he was yelling at me for no reason.

I was not yelling at him for no reason.

I lost it on set, Wages.

Wigs.

That's right.

It's filming Twisted Metal season two.

Very good.

Jean-Louis, you might have to, when you literize Nick and I, year after year, you might have to keep adding to us as we keep doing this podcast.

And get bigger and bigger.

Added to the waistline over the course of doing Doughboys.

Yeah.

I did want to ask you, because we are primarily a food podcast,

I did want to ask you some food questions.

The first thing is Little Bites, which is the foods,

you know, the food court option within Little Canada.

Mitch and I, I think our reaction to it was, have you thought about more like littleized food options?

Like, could you get like some like really tiny, you know, like a really little slice of pizza or something like that?

Not that you can actually hit one to 87 scale or whatever it is, but like, you know, like really lean into the miniaturization, the littleization of the food.

Jean-Louis, as you can see,

we aim to keep your customers unsatisfied by giving them tiny food.

No, but a case in point,

you bring up a great, a great idea, which we've been thinking about and how we could implement it.

And one of the first

experiments which we're going to implement is

maple syrup.

So we have our own little batch maple syrup, which we sell in our little things

gift shop.

And so one of the ideas is, and I don't know if you experienced this, but when I was growing up, we would have pancakes

and

we would

put a scoop, or my mother would put a scoop into the pan.

And then we would say to my mother, oh, can we make a small one?

And she would put a little dot next to it, right?

So the idea is that we would we're going to introduce little pancakes

commensurate with little bites,

but then we're going to put a really small one next to it and then just a little drop of maple syrup on it.

That's cute.

I love that.

Yeah.

So

yes, the whole premise of little bites is not to provide a full meal to our guests, not at all.

It's really just to get a taste of Canada.

Yeah, little bites.

So when we do events in the evening, which we

have a catering kitchen and we have some wonderful space in front of Ottawa where we can do this,

we serve little bites.

So these are little hors d'oeuvres

which we pass around

and

we do that in each destination.

So if you're in Quebec, it's Quebec.

If you go into the East Coast, it could be a little lobster roll.

In Quebec, it could be Montreal meat.

Wow.

In the future prairies, we would put a slider.

In BC, it could be a 9

bar

and so on.

So

that's the idea behind Little Bites.

Another food question, this is not pertaining to Little Canada specifically, but you are, like, you know, as you mentioned, you are Dutch and you grew up in the UK.

Is there any Dutch food you really love?

Oh, Oh, yes, there's one of the things that

in Burlington, that's the only one I know, there's actually a Dutch shop.

It's called the Dutch Shop.

And my wife goes there probably once every six weeks.

And we pick up some very typical Dutch things.

And one of my favorites is Krentebolle.

which basically is a bun,

a raisin bun, but there's no cinnamon in it.

So in North America, it's very typical to have cinnamon

inside it.

This has got no cinnamon.

It's just pure

a bun, a raisin bun.

And I can eat four, six in one go, just with a bit of butter in it.

Oh, man.

Are they little bites?

How big are they?

No, they're probably like this.

Okay, good.

They're probably a little bit too big, but they're Dutch.

They're not Canadian.

So it's a very typical Dutch thing.

The other thing is

eel, smoked eel.

Oh, yeah, I do like eel.

I usually have eel in the context of like unagi, like like, you know, with sushi, but um, but tell us about the smoked eel you like.

Well, I grew up with that on, again, on holiday in the Netherlands, because the Netherlands is a very flat country.

There are no hills

except in the really down in the south, south of Maastricht.

But there are a lot of canals and a lot of waterways.

And so one of the activities that we did during the summer was to go on, go sailing.

I learned to sail in the Netherlands.

And

we would pick up a bag of smoked eel.

And you would peel the skin off.

And then you would literally eat it

off the bone.

And it was

delicious, absolutely delicious.

And then with a little bit of, a,

my father would drink

a yeneva, which is a little bit like a gin,

to wash it down.

But you would eat that on the boat.

So that we sometimes pick up at the Dutch shop.

Wow.

As well as other

on bait kook, which is kind of like a ginger bread, which you

have for breakfast.

You just slice, it's like bread, you slice it, you put a bit of butter on it.

Also very, very good.

Those are really the Dutch.

Yeah.

And then the for hot meal, very typical is

sausage

and then carrots and mashed potatoes mixed together in one.

Wow.

So it looks like mashed potatoes, but it's got carrots in it.

Is it got like kind of an orange hue to it?

Yeah, yeah.

Okay.

So it's

and unbeknownst to me and my sister and my brothers, it was the perfect way to eat vegetables without realizing that you're eating vegetables.

My dad always said that we were one to two percent Dutch.

That's what my dad always said.

I think that's my good side, the one to two percent of me.

That's decent.

Jean-Louis, I want to ask, as far as

this is a big question, I guess, but as far as

you opened right around the pandemic.

The pandemic halted the opening of Little Canada, correct?

Yes, it delayed us by 14 months.

Oh, wow.

Yeah.

And then you're opening, you said that you said in 2021.

How do you feel about

its growth and the word getting out?

And where do you see it expanding in the future?

Is there anything that you see doing with the exhibit?

I mean, it's already so immersive.

It's already great as is, but do you have any plans for the future?

Well,

so we opened in August 21.

We added two new destinations, as I mentioned earlier.

We're going to add a third one next year.

And this one I'm particularly excited about because

it's in a separate room.

It has a double door.

And it has its own HVAC system to it.

It's going going to depict the three territories of the north of Canada.

Oh, wow.

Oh, wow.

And when the guest walks in, they're going to feel a chill because we're going to

reduce the temperature just enough for it to be noticeable.

And so we're kind of adding a sense to the experience.

The other thing is,

since we opened, opened,

the biggest surprise for me was

the response from our guests.

I never expected that we would get the response that we did,

which was

people get,

it evokes a sense of,

it's emote,

how do I say it?

It's not a rational response, it's an emotional response.

And as you mentioned earlier, the team exudes that themselves when you talk to them because they just feel so proud to be part of.

And more recently,

even non-Canadians have been coming up to me and the team and saying, thank you for doing this.

This is exactly what we need.

It's almost like you come into Little Canada, you see the country the way it should be,

not the way it is.

And you forget about reality, you forget about all the struggles and the challenges that we all face.

On top of that is

we have ratings which were unheard of.

We're at 4.9 on Google.

We're 5.0 on TripAdvisor.

We got the top attraction in Ontario award last night for the third year running.

Wow.

So congratulations.

Yeah, congratulations.

Thank you.

As soon as people, as soon as anybody walks in,

they're they're

the how do I say it?

They're hooked, as it were.

Right.

The challenge that we still have is,

okay, what is Little Canada?

How do you explain it?

You can't.

It's almost impossible to explain.

It really is.

I've been trying to explain it since we got back and I can't.

I just keep showing people pictures and then going, the pictures don't do it justice, though.

And even videos don't do it justice either.

I had one guest who came round into Toronto and he basically just said, oh my God, what the hell have you done?

But that's a response that that's a response that you would, yeah, it's not a response that you would expect.

Far from it.

It's like, yeah.

My co-host, well, I was going going to say, my co-host, I wouldn't call you rational, but you're not, you're definitely not emotional.

Sure.

My co-host, Jean-Louis, he had the biggest

Cheshire cat smile on his face.

He was, you were on Cloud9, Nick.

And also, the star of the show that I'm working on right now, Stephanie Beatrice, she took her daughter and they absolutely, they loved it.

They had such a blast.

So big thumbs up all around from the Twisted Metal crew.

Yeah, my biggest smiles in Canada were at Little Canada and then riding the Choo Choo because I really love the commuter rail there.

And then the plane ride back.

Yeah, that was...

No, I actually, I will say this.

To your point, Jean-Louis, of like, as an American, and I've been to Canada four times, twice to Vancouver, once to Saskatoon, and then my most recent visit to Toronto was my first visit to the city.

Walking around Little Canada as someone who, you know,

hasn't spent a lot of time in the nation, it did have me suddenly thinking like, like, oh, I wonder, I should go visit St.

John, New Brunswick.

You know, I should visit Prince Edward Island.

I should see some of these

some regions of Canada that I was previously unfamiliar with.

And so, yeah, I think that's a common experience for a lot of people

who are at the exhibit.

I know we're running out of time,

but I did have one more question for you, which was,

you know,

you yourself immigrated to Canada.

You come to the country in 1999.

Is that correct?

Yes.

Correct.

And you've lived there now for, you know,

a quarter of a century.

You've spent a bunch of time there.

You obviously have a passion for, you know, its natural beauty, its vastness, its culture.

But like, what is it about the Canadian people that you really responded to that made you want to make this into your adopted homeland and made you want to build this tribute to the nation?

Well, I think think there's two things.

One is

I didn't know anything about the country.

I never heard of Terry Fox.

I never heard of Wayne Gretzky.

I thought that basketball was invented by an American.

And in fact, even...

Yeah, we still believe that down here.

Yeah.

And it wasn't until the 2010 Winter Olympics at the closing ceremony in Vancouver when William Shatner came on stage and I said, What?

Captain Kirk of Star Enterprise is Canadian?

I had no clue.

And to this day, I'm still learning about the contributions of Canada in the world,

whether it's the whether it's inventions like insulin, as an example, or whether it's the fog horn,

or whether it's even the Robinson screwdriver.

There are so many stories to tell

about Canada.

In addition, I recognize

very early on that the majority of Canadians will never have the opportunity nor the means to see all of the country for themselves.

It's just too vast.

Even after 25 years, there are still provinces and territories that I've not seen.

And it takes an effort to actually go to these places because they're not just around the corner.

They are,

yeah, you fly four hours here, and then you've got to take another flight, and then you another four hours north.

My son lives in Prince, in Fort St.

John.

He's a helicopter pilot.

Wow.

And

he's home now, he's come home for two weeks, but it's almost a five-hour flight from Toronto to Vancouver.

and then it's

12-hour drive from Vancouver to

Fort St.

John and he's in the middle of nowhere it's stunningly beautiful it's

he says it's fantastic but he's in the middle of nowhere yeah

and there are beautiful lakes beautiful forests, beautiful wildlife

and

that's what really inspired me to do this, to show

how different Canada is from the West Coast to the East Coast,

from the north to the south,

and

all the stories that we can tell

about its history, the geography, the people.

Because the people is...

I say that many times, that we're all immigrants.

Every one of us is an immigrant.

The only people who are not immigrants are the First Nations Indigenous peoples.

And there, again, there's a tremendous amount of stories to share, to tell and to share.

That's what Little Canada is about.

We connect people, places, and stories about Canada through the art of miniature.

Well, it's awesome.

It's awesome.

We loved it, and we're so impressed by it.

And

anyone who's listening to this, who's watching this,

who visits Toronto or lives in Toronto should see Little Canada because

it's an incredible experience.

So

thank you so much for giving us

a little bit of your time, Jean-Louis Brennickmeyer.

And congrats on Little Canada.

We loved it.

Well, thank you very much.

It was a pleasure to be with you.

And I wish you well with your podcast and all your endeavors that you are engaged with.

Thank you.

We're going to wrap it up.

We're going to wrap it up soon.

The podcast, I mean.

Yeah, it's almost done.

It's almost done.

Thank you, Jean-Louis.

Yeah, the mission accomplished on your end.

It's little Kana is fantastic.

We loved it.

Appreciate it.

Thank you very much.

Wow.

That's this week's big size Little Dough Boys Double.

It would end up being a larger episode, but I wanted to call it a little.

Fuck it.

Can you end the episode?

See you later.

Dope boys, maybe I.