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Harriet, fix your Wi-Fi.

Manifest that shit.

We can't be managed.

I mean, the day just got away from me?

Grazi Giglers.

Yes.

Gigler.

Gligleros.

Sorry, that became a different language.

I don't know what that was.

I'm a little mad at you.

Can I say something?

Yeah.

Love your content.

Support women in the arts.

Your outfits are fire.

Where are the food photos?

I'm sick of seeing Emilio Pucci wears the Parmesan.

No, I know.

You're not giving me what I want.

You're gatekeeping, you sicko.

No, I'm not gatekeeping.

Some of the things I order, I feel like I take a picture of it and it doesn't look.

It's not the right aesthetic.

It doesn't look that appetizing, but I'm like, I promise it's really good.

And here's the thing,

I think what it is.

I order a lot of eggplant and it's just like, it's not the prettiest dish.

Wait, I didn't know.

You know, I love eggplant.

I love eggplant.

No, I love eggplant.

I love eggplant in all forms.

Honestly, I ordered it the other day and they brought it out in like a bumped cake.

You can make eggplant in any way.

And I was like, this is so interesting.

And then they like gave it to, they sliced it like it was cake for me.

Eggplant is the Italian potato.

It comes in all shapes and forms.

Fried, mashed, ground.

Are they mashed?

Grilled.

Well, you know that place Frankie, Lil Frankie's in New York City?

They like grill it and they kind of mash it a little bit with the skin still on and then they put honey and like

something spicy on it.

Okay.

Welcome to the food network.

Yeah.

So, anyway, just a request for more food content.

But your outfits have been incredible, and you tried to make it.

Oh, yeah.

Do you want to speak for yourself for gaslighting everyone?

I gaslit everyone into thinking I didn't have any outfits, but here's the thing: gaslito!

Gaslitito!

I just went through one week of outfits.

I have another week here.

So we're not out of the trenches.

If anything, we're smack dab in the middle.

Okay.

So yeah, obviously I had some outfits.

I didn't come naked, but you know, I'm definitely looking at the closet being like, we're getting down to the wire.

How much shopping are you doing?

I have done a significant amount of shopping.

Okay, good.

And it feels great.

Good.

Did you heal anything?

Retail therapy is real therapy.

Wait, can I announce?

You remember how I told everyone?

I don't know if I told everyone, but I stopped seeing my therapist.

I don't think you enough.

Okay, and I got off my meds, but then I got right back on my meds real quick.

I was going to say, we're

free-flowing this summer.

No, we've been back on the meds.

But I was like,

I feel like it's like having a, having a therapist is like having a boyfriend where like it's fun until you're like sick of them.

And then you're like, I want to be single.

I just want to be a single self.

And then you're like having the best time being single.

And then it starts getting dark.

it starts getting scary it starts getting lonely and then you're like I just want to talk to sitting alone sometimes

so last week I was just on the internet hitting up random therapists getting consultations

like through what medium what form psychologytoday.com

and then they'd call my home phone And they'd be like, hey, and I'm like, do you think we're a good fit?

And it was pretty traumatizing, but I just want to.

Wait, rewind your home phone.

I just wanted to say home phone.

Oh, I was like, do you have a home phone?

Because I was like, oh, maybe, maybe in the Hampton, she does have a home phone.

Do you know people still, sometimes when you're filling out forms, it says home phone and cell phone, and I go,

grow up.

My parents have a home phone.

Do they have a fax?

Do you remember when people faxed?

Yeah.

Wait, yes.

I loved faxing.

That's one of my things I think is like Bluetooth.

It's not real.

Like, I don't think anyone actually sent a fax.

My grandma used to fax a lot of things.

And now when I think about it, what was she faxing?

And I remember, like, I remember when you would hear a fax come through and she'd be like, don't touch the fax because like if you picked up the phone, it would like cancel it out.

Oh.

Or she didn't want you to touch it because she was doing a legal activity, grandma.

All I wanted to do was pick up the phone and like pretend.

Wow, bring back faxing.

Bring back faxing.

So yeah, anyway,

I found a therapist I think I like.

Okay.

And I had my first person

today.

It's a person.

I highly recommend people

for therapy.

And I'm excited about where this is going to go with us.

You know,

therapy does sometimes feel like dating because that like there's nothing worse than breaking up with your therapist.

Like, and you stay in it too long and you know that you're in it too long and you're like, I feel like we've outgrown each other, but I don't know how to get out of it because you don't feel like blowing up your life right then and there.

And some therapists can be like clingy.

Girl, wait, I had a situation with a therapist where I basically was like, hey, I think I'm done.

Like, thank you so much for everything.

Love you.

Bye.

She responds, she goes, okay, that's not how we end things.

Love your work.

Love your work.

Five stars.

Five stars.

I highly recommend.

And was my number.

And she was like, we need to talk about this.

Like, this is so you.

And I was like,

to just run away from things and not process your emotions.

And I was like, nope, definitely processed it, thought it through.

Actually, was thinking through for a while now, and I finally got the guts to get out.

And she's like, no, let's have a talk about it.

And then she convinced me to do like every other week.

And then, and it basically was like really hard to break up with her.

No, because sometimes like, obviously, like anything else, life gets so busy, but then you feel like you're in those sessions and you're like, I really don't have anything to talk about.

And you're like, I feel like I'm wasting your time.

I'm certainly wasting mine.

And then those are, but sometimes those are the sessions where like there's some type of like breakthrough from something like years ago that like you wouldn't be talking about today.

Do you know what I mean?

I also think therapy is expensive.

So occasionally the therapist, look, I'm charming.

Yeah.

Occasionally we start riffing on something.

And in my head, I'm like, that was $200

of like

and low-key like I did make you laugh.

We could just do the pod twist.

Like we could have made this a podcast.

But also with therapy, traditional talk therapy I learned is not always good for someone like me where all I do is talk.

So it's like

I will like ruminate or have like thoughts that I'm like obsessing over.

So then sometimes I'll get over it, but then a therapy session will be starting and I'm like, oh shit, do I have to go back into that dark place to talk to her about it when I actually was moving on?

So there's other methods of therapy that I've been looking into.

Like

EDMR.

Which is?

ASMR.

EDM.

EDM.

Diploma.

I feel like you're going to start raving.

Ayahuasca.

There's all kinds of ways.

of things.

My Cyrus did EDMR.

It's basically like when you've been through trauma.

It's like a trauma reprocessing thing.

I haven't done it yet, so I'll keep you guys posted, but I have too much time on my hands this summer.

Wait, you're still not explaining it, though.

You like you go somewhere and you lay down and you listen to things?

Okay.

No, I'm just doing virtual therapy, but EMDR, I think, like you talk through a hard time and you do something with your eye movements that helps you like reprocess it.

But I don't know yet, but I know Miley Cyrus did it and she's really good at singing.

Okay, sometimes, and people don't talk about this, sometimes therapy is hard for me because I have such a bad memory.

Like, I'd love to work through something, but like, I literally can't think of, I can't remember anything, so I don't know.

I can't imagine you in therapy

as your therapist.

I can't imagine you in therapy.

I can't imagine you seriously, like,

talking about something that isn't like good gossip.

Like, you'd be so bored.

You're like, Yeah, I was sad.

Tell me about what's going on with you.

Wait, what's your opinion on having a good-looking therapist?

Well, here, well,

okay.

I don't.

Okay, are you okay?

Yeah,

I could never have a man therapist.

Well, that's not a therapist.

That's just a man who got a degree.

Yeah, I could never have a male therapist.

So what are my thoughts on, like, a pretty therapist?

My therapist is pretty.

I can only have a a pretty

therapist.

I have to stare at her for an hour.

I need her to be gorgeous.

See, I'm like,

what have you been through?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Because here's the other thing.

Like, I used to think, like, when I first started having therapists, I was like, okay, I need someone that's like a mom's age.

Like, I need someone older, wiser.

And as I get older, I need someone that's closer to my age.

But then it's also like, okay, do I trust someone my age?

I think I said this on the, I might have said this on the pod, but I was looking for therapists and one of the girls, she said that she graduated in 2013.

And I go,

you're not

good at your job.

You just graduated college, babe, with me.

We're babies who just graduated.

And then I was like, wait, she's been in this field for over a decade.

Yeah.

No, it's like very jarring, but it's like, yeah, obviously.

So yeah, mine is actually very close to my age.

But I did learn about myself by like who I chose as my therapist because I tried to be like, honestly, when you get back into dating, where you're like, I'm not just going to jump into the first person that gives me attention.

And I had a couple different ones, and I ended up choosing like the quirkier one.

And I was like, am I the problem?

Well, you need something to like.

I want it to be fun.

My current therapy, though, that I'm doing right now

is instead of pancakes for the table, it's ravioli.

And everyone seems to be a fan.

Wait, first of all, no one talks about how cute raviolis are.

Like adorable for no reason.

Here's the thing.

I'm, I've been getting ravioli every single night for dinner.

And it's just like it's starting to be too much, but I can't stray away from it.

But I, I feel like I need to try other things.

So the other night at dinner, I was like, you know what, mom?

I'm just going to get a ravioli for the table and whoever wants some can have some.

No one had any.

And so I, I've, it's just me getting two entrees.

But I do love just like when you can't decide, just say one thing's for the table and eat it for yourself.

So you look generous and you get what you want.

Exactly.

But also with ravioli, just to like support ravioli for a second, is it comes in all shapes and forms.

Like it's not like always the same thing.

And you could get like spinach in it, which is healthy.

Sometimes I'm getting like smaller circular ones and then other times I'm getting fat square ones.

Oh my god, they're so cute and chubby.

And you want to know what?

That's my form of excitement now.

As As it's coming over to the table, which one is it going to be?

Is it that thick butt, Ravioli?

Am I going to get those big squares?

Or am I going to...

You can walk away, Ravioli.

Yeah.

Well, I love that for you.

Can you post it next time?

Because you look beautiful, but I'm going to need some real content, okay?

I'm going to need some Parmesan.

No, definitely.

I have a lot of stuff I want to talk about.

Oh, I have children.

I was just going to say, I think you should start with the most important thing.

If you're on YouTube, this is a bonus for you.

In the back, you're going to see I have all my kittens.

You can't see them, but you see where they're living.

I'll have Grace bring some to you later.

She's with me right now taking care of the kittens.

It's part of her job description.

It was crazy because Grace came to visit.

So I said, What is the perfect day in West Hampton for Grace?

I said, We're going to wake up.

We're going to get coffee.

We're going to go to the animal shelter.

We're going to play some tennis.

And we're going to nap and pool and sleep.

Yeah.

She said, yes.

My dream weekend.

Okay.

And I will curate that for you.

You know I have it written out.

So Des is like, okay, I'll drive you guys to the shelter because I can't drive.

And we get there.

And like.

Wait, I.

Daddy.

Like, I know you can't drive, but, but I didn't.

I don't put you in every context of like you not driving.

No, when I have to go somewhere, I have to be like, hey.

I've never thought about like you have a friend over, basically, and you have to be like, hey, like, we kind of want to like go do this like thing together.

And he has to drive you.

We want to go to the movies.

Can you take us?

So he takes us.

And I was so well-behaved because this wasn't about me this trip.

This is about Grace and Grace getting comfortable with different cats, seeing if she likes cats.

And I think because I played it so chill chill and cool, we're talking to Jill, head of Southampton Animal Shelter Cats, the cat Wrangler,

the cat shaman.

And she was like, we're overflowing with kittens right now.

We need to get kittens adopted.

And I was like, I'll tell the gigglers.

She goes, I have a bunch in the back room still that are still getting their shots and stuff.

And I go, show me, show me what's going on in the back.

Brings me to the back, and she goes, we have these three that just came out.

It's just a matter of time before you buy one of these places.

I go, how much is the whole place?

I go, fuck the cat.

How much is this square footage?

Look, Patrick and I have been podcasting a lot lately.

I'm going to put all my Giggly Squad money.

Yeah.

So we're looking at the three cats.

They're like, they were found in Bridgehampton and rescued.

And we just need someone to foster them for like a week or two.

And Des goes, okay, we can foster them.

Des has never ever done that, ever.

This man loves you.

That is his love language, giving me kittens.

And I pretend I was like, oh,

I wasn't trying to foster any kittens.

But if you say so, I will.

And now

we have three babies.

Now you're a proud family of...

Three children.

Right now the names are hazelnut, cashew, and

peanut, but they're up to debate.

Oh, Grace wants to bring one.

Yeah, bring one in.

If you're not on YouTube, I'm sorry.

You're really missing out.

You're really missing out.

But our job is to socialize them.

Wait, shit.

Sorry.

No.

Which is the cutest.

That's peanut.

Do you want to bring...

Oh my gosh, you're cute.

That's the best.

Do you want to bring hazelnut?

Thank you.

Next up.

This is a cat pod.

This is, I was joking.

This is like...

this is Paige on Amazon live.

And now we have the cutest, literally cutest girl.

Her name is Hazelnut.

She is adorable.

I bite you.

Wait, all of anything you've ever named has been a food.

I'm obsessed with food names.

I'm obsessed with them.

But I know what you guys are thinking.

Hannah, what about butter?

What about your literal daughter that you had from your womb?

No, one thing about you, you stay pissing butter off.

Butter?

Like, this is what, I swear to God, yesterday, we bring the cats, and Grace looks at me, she goes, What's butter going to do?

I'm going to say, Butter's going to, wait, I literally got too excited.

Butter goes, Can I have a day?

Yeah, can I have a literal day?

Literal day.

So, Butter walks in the sunroom thinking it's a normal day,

sees that there's something going on in this pen,

like her tail gets all fluffy and goes absolutely not hasn't left my bedroom in two days and she knows there's something out there and does not want to know what it is wait that's so

she's like i know her none of my business she goes whatever's going out there is none of my business i don't want to know she's happy

i'm not even getting involved that's literally she saw some drama and she said i've had enough like i don't i don't care about it so um the family's good over here how is your family how's the dynamics on vacation?

My family, we have been having a lot of fun.

Okay, my brother's girlfriend, thank God for her

because she has been taking Italian for like a couple years.

So like anytime we get into a pickle where like we don't really know what's going on, she just like comes right in and like starts talking.

And it's,

I mean, I'll never come to Italy without her.

Like I'll never not have a translator.

Like she's just, it's so much easier it's so much it makes the experience so much better do people come up to you and speak italian because you you look so italian okay well here's the other thing

Everyone, I think, legitimately does think that we speak Italian because so many people go up to my mom and start speaking Italian, but then like I'll see other Americans where like, and they'll just go up and start like speaking English.

And so we do feel a little bit better than people here because they do, I think they do think that we're authentic.

You are in your homeland.

Yeah, so that makes us feel better.

This place is just like, there's so many crazy things.

Like the other night, we're walking back from dinner.

Actually, Sierra, it was the night Sierra was here and she came to dinner with us.

And

we're walking back and we're just like, is that Elton John playing?

Like, the island is not big.

So, like, anywhere he and yes, it was Elton John was performing in the back of our hotel at like a party, and we were like, What is going on?

And it was just a really, just a really low-key baptism.

That's so Italian.

I thought someone was gonna be like, oh, it's a wedding.

That's their quinciniera, like a baptism in Italy.

They're like, this shit's about to be lit because God is, I don't know what they do at baptisms, but God's coming.

Wait, did he play Tiny Dancer?

I hope he did.

So I didn't hear that one, but I heard him play like three songs.

So it was a lit baptism.

I mean, it was like the crazy.

I was like, what is this experience that we're having right now?

And then

I saw our charades partner in the pool the other day.

Tell me everything.

So I'm, so I literally get in the pool and I'm like with my family.

And all of a sudden, this man swims by and and I'm like, I think that's Patrick Schwartz.

Wait, he was like, who swims in a pool?

Who actually swims?

I felt like I was at summer camp where I'm like, hey, I went to camp with like.

Hey, are your parents divorced?

My parents are divorced.

He comes up from the water.

He takes his goggles off.

He spit in my face.

She wanted to go in the hot shop by her shit.

Honestly, it was giving white lotus season two.

Like we were in Italy and we were in this pool.

I'm like, what's going on?

I'm like, hi.

And he looks at me and he's like, hi.

And I was like, I was on Jimmy Fallon with you.

And he was like, oh, yeah.

And then

we just started chatting.

And then like other people in the pool were just like, it was just a very interesting experience.

It was just so funny.

Well, it's funny because that was the reaction John Hamm had with me, who I've seen 47 times this year.

But it's like when they see you in different random places, like he was at the New York library.

Yeah.

And and i just go

hi and he looks at me like hi and i go i beat you in charades and he goes oh and i how is that not burnt into your brain i know you just got over it with your therapist but let's bring it back um yeah but patrick was so friendly with us like i actually felt like we were best friends and when he left i was like okay like what do we do without patrick now right

well He's vacationing.

He's doing well.

He's on vacation.

The amount of people that are probably making stupid jokes about White White Lotus to him about like drinking

shakes.

I feel like no, I literally, that is all I was thinking because then

he got out of the pool and I could tell like certain people were going up and being like, hey, like huge fan or whatever.

And I was like, the amount of white Lotus jokes that people probably think are so original that are being just yelled at this man all day long.

He came on vacation again.

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Let's discuss on the docket.

Yes.

Do you think it's a coincidence that we won on the Today show?

a week later, Hoda announced her retirement?

Then we finally meet Anna Wintour at an event about a month ago, and now she has announced her retirement.

Are we the black widows?

Are we the problem?

Because I've been, I've been working with my therapist on, you know, going inward.

Am I the problem here?

We make everyone quit their job.

She saw us at that event and she goes, and the industry's done.

She goes, who are you?

Okay, I gotta go.

Yeah, I'm, I'm, she was like seen at a bar just like drinking.

Wait, I saw that.

I was like,

I was like, that is.

She's like, I've actually been sober my whole life, but I'm going to relapse after meeting Hannah Page at the New York Public Library.

Hannah, if you talk to John Hamm one more time, I'm going to lose it.

No, I couldn't believe she was stepping down.

Do you want to know why?

What shocked me the most?

This is like so, has nothing to do with anything.

When it said like, oh, after 37 years, I was like, oh, she seems like the type of person that would have wanted to retire on like an even

number,

like at like 40.

I was like, 37 doesn't seem like that.

You go, that doesn't seem chic.

Okay, interesting.

Wait, that's so you to care about those things.

That is so you.

I was like, but wouldn't the headline sound better like a 40 years?

Obviously the press release was going to say 37 and it's kind of an ugly number.

37 is kind of ugly.

37 is like such an ugly number.

Seven in general like gag.

Gross.

But 38 is giving elevated

editorial.

38.

38.

That is like when you have an

uneven birthday, everyone's like, I'm not celebrating your 33 birthday.

And why do I feel like 33 is like overweight?

Oh, the number.

I was like, did you just

dude?

He's like, 33, the number.

It's like, it looks overweight, like it's overweight.

But 34, 34 jogs.

Yes.

34

dabbles in Pilates.

Yeah, for sure.

And everyone in their 20s, you're doing great.

You have anxiety.

You'll be fine.

Yeah, it literally doesn't count it doesn't count um oh man i was talking to someone yesterday about fashion because that's what i do as you know right people are like hannah tell me about page's fashion and i'm like i will and

we were talking about how i feel like there's two types of girls girls that either own like a ton of tops or girls who own a ton of bottoms yeah I realize I own

neither.

Okay.

You know some people who were like, yeah, I I have my jeans.

Like, I have a couple jeans, but like, I love buying a ton of tops.

I have way more tops than I do bottoms.

I feel like I never even think about bottoms.

I just like assume it's there.

And then like six years later, I'm like, oh, I should get new jeans.

Pants.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I just assume the bottoms figure itself out.

I'm always, I'm, I'm always having a tough time finding pants where I feel like I love so many shirts.

I'm like, I need that top.

Well, people make fun of millennials because we were obsessed with going out tops.

Yeah, we love tops.

Now we don't really know what like a going-out top is.

But blazers are back, which that was all us.

What are?

Blazers.

Just like wearing oversized blazers all the time.

I don't feel like they went anywhere.

But like going out-wise, I feel like girls weren't wearing blazers.

Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.

Yes.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, no.

Like, not when we were in college, no.

Yeah.

With like our little skirts.

Have you heard it's Sardine Girl Summer?

Did you see my fish bag?

Paige?

That was the best accessory I've ever seen.

Like the second I've seen it.

That was so cool.

It was so cool.

It was so good for Italy, the aesthetic.

The vibes were amazing.

How'd you find it?

Okay.

This is actually going to be a very funny story.

I've been waiting all day for you to ask about my bag how I found it.

Because it's so not me and I don't want you to get jealous because

you're my best friend, and no one could ever take your place.

So, one day I was like on Instagram, and I'm just like scrolling, or maybe I was on TikTok.

I don't know.

I think I was on Instagram, and I was just like scrolling, and I like saw this girl, and I was just like, wait, this girl is like so

like, I just like like this girl.

And so, like, I would keep like always like looking at her Instagram pictures, and I'd be like, oh my god, she's like such cool style.

And then, like, I was watching her videos, and I was like, Are you sure this wasn't my profile?

I feel like like I would be like friends with this girl

and that's like so not me you're creepy you're creepy you mean you're creepy that is so not me so whatever so I did have never wanted to be friends with anyone

I was having a parasocial relationship I was like in my head this is what this girl is like in real life and I feel like we would be friends yeah so whatever I message her and we start like chatting And like, I, and I was like, oh yeah, like, kind of like her.

We've never like met in person and we've never like, like, it's like a slow burn type of thing, but she, she came out with bags and she was like, can I send you one?

And I was like, absolutely.

And so it got there like right before I left for Italy.

And when it got there, I was like, this is the sickest bag ever.

The company is called the Vin V-I-N.

And so that's how I have it.

Did you put your phone in it?

Depends on the phone.

Did I put my phone in it?

I think I did.

Depends on the phone.

I actually don't know if I put my phone in it.

But not important.

Not important.

But I have a suction cup phone, so I can stick it.

I stuck it right to the back.

You go to a restaurant, you just stick it on something.

I'm good.

No, it's so cute.

So cute.

I love Sardine Girl Summer.

I feel like it's very eclectic, Grandpa.

I'm very into it.

Anything with fish or food?

Okay, actually, speaking of fish,

um

so there's so many like stray cats around here and like the past couple of years I've like seen them but now that I'm like a full cat mom now I like I really spot them and I feel like they've like also been giving me the same energy back I even tonight was like oh should I order like because the restaurant we had to go to tonight we had to take it was like a really long walk

And I saw like four different cats.

I'm literally sitting at the dinner table and in my head, I'm like, Should I order a fish so that, like, if I don't eat it all, I can put some in my hand, and on my way back,

I can give it to a cat.

And I was like, Oh

my god,

oh my god, I have entered a whole new era.

Um, Paige, you texted me a couple days ago out of the blue.

Do you follow Merv the Cat on TikTok?

I was like oh she's she's in deep she's this is I thought you were gonna text me something important do you follow Merv the Cat on TikTok

all my TikTok is

no my whole TikTok is cats and Capri pants different ways to wear capri pants and cats merv the cat is one of the best cats ever I'm obsessed with her she it's well yeah did I then do like a 40 minute deep dive on Merv?

Yes, Merv is Siamese, and Merv speaks to its owner.

And my only complaint about Merv they don't post enough.

I need more.

I want, I want so much more content.

You want a live feed of Merv.

Well, that's how I feel of your food content in Italy that you're like literally holding back.

Literally gatekeeping.

Okay, I'm gonna actually, I'm gonna post so much food tomorrow.

Um, wait, what?

Okay, so what when it comes to this trip my mom pretty much plans like and we're not like active like we're not sightseeing people like I've never learned the history of any anything here like I literally just know the restaurants We lay and the pool and then we go to restaurants.

So my mom pretty much does all the restaurant reservations and I don't know I saw this like one restaurant on TikTok or something and I sent it and I was like, oh like let's for one of the nights try this like new place that we we haven't been to before and it's like a Michelin star restaurant and I think it's gonna be like a really fun experience.

It was so bad that it actually made the dinner so fun.

Like it was so funny.

Was it like a bit?

Like it became a bit.

It became a bit.

Like it became a full bit that like how could we possibly have found a bad restaurant in Italy?

And then of course it's like, well, Page found it.

Like it was just.

And also, it has a Michelin star.

Like, the whole point of Michelin Star is being like, we've edited it.

It's definitely great.

It's definitely.

Yeah, it's the best in the world.

It was

so dad-coated, though.

Dads hate fancy restaurants.

My dad's favorite thing to do is go to a fancy restaurant and then go, can we go to McDonald's now?

I'm hungry.

I'm hungry.

Can we get a pizza?

We added a person to our reservation because Sierra came and the hostess was like a little bit snippy about it and she was like well I don't know if we can accommodate it and my dad was already pissed off that we were going to this restaurant then he goes well then I don't have to eat

so dramatic he literally looked at our family and goes I'm I don't need to eat if you guys need the other place and my mom was like what like what are you talking about He's so dramatic.

I love to see who becomes the diva in the family when because everyone has their own triggers and on vacation everything will eventually trigger someone so to see who's having the meltdown of the night is so funny our family dynamic is funny because

my dad's obsessed with me my mom is obsessed with my brother my brother doesn't give a shit about my mom and i am like breaking generational trauma with my dad

I'm like, let's work on something for today.

How do we feel about.

Is it because you you feel like you and Gary are so similar and you've done some therapy?

So you're like, hey, you don't need to take this note, but I have notes.

Okay, well, I, well, my dad has anxiety.

Like, my dad has severe anxiety.

And I don't think that that's ever crossed his mind.

So you have to explain what anxiety is.

Yes, because, and because I'm like, okay, you know, for example, when we get to the airport, you all of a sudden get really nervous.

And I'm like, that is anxiety.

Explaining to an Italian man what anxiety is is so fucking cute.

Okay, Wayne, I'm going to say something else.

And I hate to say it.

I hate to say it.

And I'm not a mom.

I'm not a mom.

The amount of

nannies here is, it's like, it's so crazy.

Like, I don't, I don't actually, I haven't seen one mom.

I don't know where any of the moms are.

They're at the pool.

They're drunk.

All I've seen are the kids and the nannies.

And it's so,

it's so insane.

And then, after traveling with my parents, I'm like, I can travel with a kid if I can travel with you too.

Or you might need a nanny for your parents.

Yeah, they're like having twins.

That's so funny.

Actually, I was at a coffee shop recently, and this baby walks in.

And look,

well, the baby didn't walk in.

The baby did not walk in.

It was carried.

Let's be honest, the baby was

strolled in.

Yeah.

Yes.

And this was a baby where, like, you know, when you make eye contact and you go, oh, you're a cute one.

Like, you're actually really cute.

And then for some reason in our DNA, it's our job to tell the mother that their baby is like actually a cute one.

Yeah.

So I'm walking by and the mom starts like smiling when she sees me.

And I just go, by the way, like.

So your kid is really cute.

And she goes, by the way, I'm a giggler.

By the way, not my kid.

I'm the nanny

and I was like oh my god like you just never know who's who

and I go well good thing you're nannying not an ugly kid because that makes it better hopefully I've been watching some of the nannies and I'm like

you deserve a Nobel Peace Prize that's a crazy tantrum and you can't even like really yell at that kid because it's not yours

nannying is so hard because I also want everyone to like me so like when I'm with a kid we we I was babysitting Des's niece, no, sorry, nephew.

I always get it confused, but he's like a full teenager, and he teenage boys are crazy.

Like, he started, there were like cat toys around for butter.

He started just like playing with the cat toys like a cat, like throwing it around.

I was like, you just give them some balls, and they like chase it.

Were you ever a babysitter in high school?

Yes, I did a lot of babysitting, and I was

the moms liked me because I would get the tea from like the like 10 to 12 year olds.

I'd be like, who are we dating?

Like they'd trust me, but I would let them do literally anything, like crystal meth.

I'd be like, as long as I'm here.

I remember one time I went in to like buy cupcakes somewhere.

Like, I don't know, that was like in high school.

I was probably buying it for like a boy or something.

I was very male-centered then.

And I remember standing at the counter and I was like in my school uniform and the person like behind the the counter was like, hey, any chance you like babysit?

And I literally remember being like, ew.

And I literally, I looked at this woman and I go, no.

Because she was like, oh, how old are you?

And I was like, 17.

I was like a senior in high school.

And she's like, oh, my God, any chance you babysit?

And I was like, ew, no.

You looked at me and said, you can't afford me.

You can't afford this.

I was like, I would not trust me with your children.

I was more like teaching tennis, but occasionally, like one of my friends had like a crazy entrepreneurial babysitting business, like ran Shelter Island in the summer.

And she was like, hey, girl dropped out, need you from four to six.

And I'm like, and she's like, I'll give you 50 bucks.

And I said, period, let's go.

I go in.

But some of these kids were crazy.

Like, one of the kids called me a slut once.

Because these kids don't know you.

And you know what?

I said, you saw it into my soul.

But we have, we have.

Des' nephew staying with us.

And suddenly, like, I realize, like, I'm not just like his friend, like, he's looking at me like I'm a mom.

So, in the morning, he comes up to me and he's like, What is there to eat?

Yeah, and I was like, Go hunt something.

Who do I look like?

You're not stuck in all my tit.

You're like what Uber eats.

I was like, Figure it out, and then I'm like, Oh my God, because 16-year-olds seem like adults, but then I realized, like, he has a mom who feeds him every morning.

So, he looked at me, like, where's my food?

And I was like, go fishing.

I don't know.

I'm trying to figure out what I'm having.

Do I want a latte?

Do I want matcha?

I'm dealing with my own shit.

No, the moms need more praise because I don't know how they're doing it.

Well, this is the thing.

Not to, we always get back here, but it's the first time ever where like moms,

we,

I say we, like, I'm a mom.

I am right now.

We have our own jobs.

We're doing everything.

And expected to also keep like the house and to cook.

No.

No.

Too much.

But that's why I think the nanny business is like getting crazy competitive.

Like people try to steal each other's nannies in like high society in New York City.

I need more of the nannies to write books.

I want Uber drivers and nannies to like be so fucking for real.

Before social media, like I wish there had been a reality show like about nanny.

I mean they would could never do it now.

It would never work, but do you remember that one with that like mean British nanny that would come in and like discipline your children?

She'd be immediately canceled today.

She was so mean and there was this thing.

People would never let that fly.

Did you see the clip of the seven-year-old who had a mohawk who goes, I don't like her.

She doesn't like punk rock.

I think she's a Republican.

Or they would like switch.

I forget what the show was, but that shit was.

Oh, I used to love when they would switch moms.

When they switched moms.

Yeah.

And then you're like, mom, I take back everything I said about you.

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Wait, one thing I wanted to say, and I'm

so proud of us for like when we have a certain opinion and we like really stick to it.

Like I feel like I was very pro-JoJo Siwa when people were like,

she's so annoying.

And, like, what is she doing?

She thinks she's like, she has a false sense of reality.

And I just like, there was something in me that I was just like, no, I, I really want good things for her.

Like, let her dance and whatever.

Let her just be

obsessed with this era of JoJo Siwa.

I watched a full TikTok of her making a charcuterie board where everything was red.

And I was like, never did I think I'd be here in 2025 where I'm I'm watching JoJo Siwa cut out strawberries in the shape of a heart for a charcuterie board for her boyfriend.

And I love it.

I love it so much.

I stuck with you through the thick of it.

We forget, and I could be wrong about this, but I'm pretty sure for the younger, younger generation, JoJo Siwa was like their Hannah Montana.

Like, JoJo Siwa was huge, like the biggest thing, like selling out arenas, just like being.

I'll never forget like the video clip of like Northwest, like meeting Jojo Siwa when she was like little.

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I have two documentaries you guys have to watch.

Are you gonna, if you're gonna say the merch gahargate one, I need to know everything.

Did you watch it?

Obviously, I watched it.

I literally know, I need to know everything

for Grace because she's here to relax.

And the second we finished dinner, I go, It's documentary time.

Sit down on the couch.

We have two new documentaries to watch.

You run a tight ship at your camp, you run a tight ship at your summer camp.

Also, we had

into a little fight because one of the nights

I went to go pee, come back, she's gone.

And I was like, wait, that's so weird and rude.

She literally didn't want to hang out anymore.

And she, she, I was like, she escaped.

Like, she waited for me to leave and was like, it's my time to get out.

So the next day, it's the morning.

Wait, I'm so proud of her.

That is so me-coated.

Like, oh, I'll be right back.

See ya.

See, no, if you did that, I'd be like, and she was done.

With Grace, I was like, we don't do that in this relationship.

So we're spending like a normal morning.

I think we went to get smoothies and we're drinking smoothies.

And I just look at her and and I go, by the way,

you didn't say goodnight last night.

I said, can I talk to you for a second?

Why didn't you say goodnight to me?

And she looks at me and she goes, you know what's crazy?

I was walking down the stairs and I said goodnight and you didn't respond.

So I thought you were being weird.

And I was like, I didn't hear you.

And that's why as adults, we talk things out.

And we talk things out.

So anyway, forced her to watch the documentary.

Marishka Harkate,

badass star of SVU,

her mom was

basically like Marilyn Monroe,

less famous, but of the time of blonde bombshell, definitely inspired by Marilyn Monroe.

And I would say just as pretty.

I mean, gorgeous.

Gorgeous.

Yeah.

Also, a tale as old as time,

a like genius.

She spoke like five languages, was like a classical violin player.

And she died when Marishka was three years old in a car accident.

And she was in the car, right?

The whole family in the car.

The whole family's in the car.

The three kids were in the back.

She was sitting in the back, decided to move to the front.

And then the two boys were saved.

And as they wake up from like their concussion or whatever, and they're on the way to the hospital, they go, where's our sister?

They go back.

Marishka was lodged like in between cushions and they almost left her there to die if her brother didn't wake up she would have been dead and we would never would have had svu oh

do you know one thing i love about marishka hargate do you know that she met her husband on the set of law and order wait he's hot he's he's so hot she tells this story where like her friends were like you're never gonna meet anyone like you don't go out like you have to go out like you have to put yourself out there and she was like no like literally i'm not like i'll meet someone like they were like he's not going to just like walk into your life.

And she said, literally, when she saw her husband, like, walk onto set, she was like, that's my husband.

What's so spectacular about this documentary, too, is because she has a very complicated relationship with her mom.

She doesn't remember her.

But when you grow up with a famous mom, there's tons of footage and tons of magazine articles.

And what she was always told is, don't read what they say about your mom.

It's not true.

Which it's giving, don't watch mom's TikToks.

That's not her legacy.

Oh my god, no, but she realizes that the mom and the boy talk about it.

Wait, can I just say one of the bits on my family vacation that people are just saying and then laughing about is that I'm a New York Times best-selling author.

That is so your family to be like, you know, it's fucking hilarious that you're

a New York Times best-selling author.

You lose her.

So my family coded.

My mom looks at me and goes, I mean, really?

Are you though?

They will keep you humble.

They keep me down to the ground.

No one brings it up in my family, and if it is brought up, someone goes, and your mom wrote it.

No one takes me seriously.

No one takes me seriously either.

So yeah, her mom, the brother was saying that she would put on a voice in interviews that wasn't like his mom, which was her being like dumb, blonde, and cute.

And I mean, the interview was.

She had a persona.

Yes, and the interviews were so annoying.

But the men just wanted to sexualize her, obviously, and that's what was working for her.

She wanted to be a serious actor.

It wasn't working.

Da-da-da.

I don't want to give it away, but if you watch the end, Marishka also learns stuff about

who she is and her mom that she didn't expect, and she goes through all these emotions of like, do I hate my mom?

Am I mad at my mom?

Do I love my mom?

And then by the end, you realize that they are so similar.

And it's like really beautiful and emotional.

You're gonna wait.

I can't wait to watch.

I'm so behind on all my shows.

I'm behind on Love Island.

My new show, Buccaneers, started.

I'm behind.

Gilded Age started.

I mean, that's just too much.

I can't get through on it.

It's good.

It means you're having fun on vacation.

No, I actually am like finally relaxing.

Like it took, it takes me like a couple days on vacation to get relaxed.

It took me like three weeks out here before I finally was like, yeah, like not a cat scared waking up in the morning.

No, and like this is, I mean, this is the first year that I don't have to like go and like pack and go film and plan and like

pre-strategize.

And then the next documentary you guys have to watch on HBO, Barbara Walters.

Oh, wow.

Wait, I didn't even know they were doing one on her.

Neither did I.

As two women who interview people and who are journalists, it's so fascinating because the times were so different back then.

First of all, being a woman in the news wasn't a thing.

They were like, women aren't going to give the news.

I'm not listening to the news from a lady.

That was was like literally insane.

Which is hilarious because I've never asked my dad what's going on and my mom's texting me a hundred times like, you're gonna die if you eat the cabbage from Trader Joe's.

Wait, I can I just say I remember I remember being little and seeing Barbara Walters come on like the screen.

Like for the first time like when I was little and can I just say she used to scare the shit out of me.

No, I was gonna say if you saw Barbara Walters on the screen someone was in motherfucking trouble.

Like, anytime she'd come up on the screen, I would just, like, immediately, I was one of those men.

I was like, I'm not going to listen to the news from this lady because I do not like.

So, she basically inspired everyone.

Like, okay.

Yeah.

And Hoda and like Katie Couric.

Oh, Katie,

our girl.

Yeah.

She said the funniest thing that Barbara went up to her once and was like, you remind me of me because we're not that pretty.

Okay, just call me Miranda.

Okay, Paige.

Oh my god.

I think she was like referring to like a lot of the girls on the news are just like were like picked because they were models or actresses where like Barbara was like, I'm really, I'm smart.

I'm a journalist.

I'm a real journalist.

But then it talks about her like

jealousy with Diane Sawyer when Diane Sawyer came into the game because Diane was like younger and blonde.

And it is kind of crazy how it doesn't matter how successful you are.

Life is about perspective and you could either make it like this one person is coming for me or you can like be grateful for what you have type of mental health moment.

Yeah, well, I will say for how much we decenter men and we think that they are like the root of all the problems, which like they usually are.

But no one hates on a woman more than another fucking woman.

I thought you're going to say than herself.

No, well, that's honestly, that's a close second.

But like all of your mean comments are from, like, men don't ever comment mean shit on me.

It's all women.

Men don't take down other men.

No, they don't.

No, they don't.

And they should.

They should.

But like, no, they stick together.

Yeah.

And only time a woman's getting torn down is like another woman's making the video, doing the comment.

Yeah, it's not yeah but that's very interesting Oprah talks about how

Barbara Walters was amazing at networking so it was all about your relationships with people so when something would happen that person would then get you know fruit baskets from every single news station and they had decide who are we giving the interview to nowadays there's no like the interview because everyone has social media but back then it was like popcorn television, the Monica Lewinsky interview, who's interviewing her.

And back then, journalism was more like: if you do an interview, you have to get hard questions.

It can't just be like a possibility.

I mean, Barbara Walters was a bitch.

Barbara Walters, definitely looking back, like, she said some crazy shit.

She looked at

Bette Midler and she was like, from one to 10, how attractive do you think you are?

No, she said some outlandish shit.

But she was amazing at getting people.

Like, she would settle them in and then, like, out of nowhere, get them with a zinger where they like weren't prepared.

Imagine her hosting Secret Lives of Mormon wives reunions.

That's where your brain went.

Give her a reason.

I immediately went to

what reunion should she host?

We can't replace Andy.

We'll go over there.

Secret wives.

That would be amazing.

And then what's cool about her is as she got older, when the industry was kind of like, we're over you, you know, she created the view.

Yeah, I actually did know that.

It extended her career by like at least 15 years.

And she was like, I want to do a talk show of women of multiple generations.

So, I mean, she's a badass.

They did also say that she prioritized work over everything, including like everything.

Having a child.

Her child.

Having a child.

Oh, yeah, her child.

She did have a child, but she, oh, you know about Barbara.

I know about, yeah, I know about Barbara a little bit.

Yeah, so I think honestly, I know about her because she used to scare me.

And it's like, I feel like I had to know enough.

I'm always close.

If I ever come into contact with Barbara Walters, I had to be prepared.

Stop drop and roll.

Don't make any sense.

Actually, you know what's interesting?

I'm part of the problem because I actually did enjoy Diane Sawyer a little bit more than Barbara Walters.

Also, you're part of the problem because you're hating on her right now.

Another woman hating another woman.

There we go.

Dead.

Okay, don't call her that.

Sorry, sorry.

And that was the ultimate insult, and I didn't mean that.

That's actually, that was too dark.

But I just meant like she's not going to know that I'm saying this.

Yeah, she's going to know.

I mean, her spirit lingers on.

Speaking of reunions and stuff, what do you think about Donna Kelsey on the Traders?

If she wants to do it, amazing.

I'm hoping though that someone like fully explained what she just signed up for because I'm like elder abuse?

I picture her as just like a nice regular like mom.

Like who?

I would never let my mother do reality TV.

I do think Traders is like not as bad as like a traditional show, but like

leave my mom alone.

They're gonna, I haven't watched, but don't they make them do like crazy things?

No, you're doing like challenges.

i can't tell taylor swift just cut her a check and be like stay home relax do you want to know what the craziest part is is with traders

you're going there they're taking all of your stuff like you don't have a phone you don't have a computer because they don't want you guys ever to be able to like contact each other but it's like okay

Like maybe they're

I don't see people like not following that rule, especially if like you're getting paid to be on a show.

Yeah.

And you can't like, you have no connection to the outside world, so you can't ever like call home.

You can't watch TV at night because

she has like fully 40-year-old children.

And that's why I wouldn't do it.

Like, I'm not doing that.

I'm not watching my shows for three weeks.

Wait, you can't watch TV?

No, because it's like you're in Scotland and like what TV is.

They don't have TV in Scotland.

you're going to watch the local TV in Scotland.

What are you watching?

You're like, I can't speak Scottish.

I don't know what's going on.

I need a translator.

No, I just like,

I'm at an age where I can't be uncomfortable.

I really can't.

I so resonate with that.

Resonate with that.

I can't be uncomfy.

It's an interesting.

I understand if she like, yeah, I actually don't understand.

Because if it's a money thing, it's like

us, like your sons are doing great.

Unless she's just like a huge fan of the show, and someone was like, you should do it.

And she was like, I would love to do it.

Maybe, but again, like, I think that's a huge fan of something doesn't mean I want to do it.

Yeah, like, let's give an example.

Let's play this game.

Let's give an example.

What I'm a huge fan that I don't want to do.

Like, I never wanted to do The Bachelor.

Even though I used to love The Bachelor, I never wanted to be a contestant because I was like, I could never.

I'm not fighting over a man, but I will watch people fight over a man.

But now I don't anymore because it's too much.

Eat in the Jersey Shorecast.

Murder documentaries.

I love watching murder.

I love never, but I love them.

I love watching murder, but I wouldn't murder someone.

I love you.

No reaction to that one.

You were like, yeah.

That's a good one.

I'm a huge fan of cults.

Huge fan of cults.

Bringing up the bachelor, I do have one piece of advice

for dating.

As someone who's so out of the dating game, like I don't even know what's going on.

I used to love strategy

as you did too, right?

We loved a little game.

And I was recently thinking of like, it's always hard with texting in the beginning, like how you should text.

And this girl was talking to me.

She's like, oh, like, you never want to, like, text too much, but then are you texting too little?

And I was like, you know what?

I think you should do?

You know, when you're texting your friend and, like, the last word, the autocorrect, fucks it up.

That happens to me a lot.

Like, I'm trying to say something and I keep fucking it up.

And and like, clearly, I'm just texting like chaos.

I think that's how you should text a guy you like.

Like, you don't care about the text so much that you're spelling everything wrong, and then you're like blowing his phone up, trying to spell it right.

And he's like, Wow, this girl does not give a fuck about me.

If there's one thing I feel like I've learned in all of my dating, especially now being in my 30s,

rules are made up.

We made the we as women made them up to like not to like rationalize certain things.

If he's obsessed with you, he's gonna be obsessed with you from the moment he meets you.

You could do literally anything.

He does not give a flying fuck.

If he is like in it, he's in it.

And if he's not, he's not.

And if he's not, that's not your husband, babe.

Honestly, period.

I have nothing to say.

Like, that was perfect.

Like, period.

It's like

boots down, ground, mic drop.

Yes.

Oh, my gosh.

Well,

thank you guys so much for giggling with us this

week.

We have a new, oh my god, it just came out, right?

Our new YouTube.

We painted each other's faces, and you guys are never going to know how it went unless you watch.

And we're not going to have giggly squad next week.

We just want to prepare you guys.

We're taking next week off.

We couldn't do this one without Duncan.

Thank you for fueling the fun.

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