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Sup, gigglers, Gary, fix your Wi-Fi.

Manifest that shit.

We can't be managed.

I mean, the day just got away from me.

What's up, my gigalotti?

Yes, honey.

What?

Yes.

I was in a yoga class.

Okay.

And the girl was a giggler, and she was like, by the way, you should say gigalotti.

And I was like, you're so helpful.

Thank you.

Writing it down now.

Wait, I feel like she was like page coded.

Yeah, yeah.

I mean, you're the gigalatti.

This is what we are.

It's better than a cult.

Gigalotti is better than a cult.

Because it sounds like an Italian

Illuminati.

Family.

An Italian cult, like five-family adjacent.

It's like the girl started something.

Well, the gigalotti is like when you see someone say no notes and you just look at her and she's like, oh, she's in the gigalatti.

Did you just get out of the pool or the shower?

I just got out of the shower.

I played tennis today.

I was going to be so jealous.

I look like a wet rat.

No, I think

you're stunning in all forms.

I was just like, oh my god, are you like swimming?

Because I would be so jealous right now.

I'm actually feeling quite raw because I

killed the whole family of my nails.

Wow.

Like you peeled it all off.

I had a breakdown.

And I, no, I peeled it.

And like, you know, when you peel like one layer of your actual nail bed?

So Jacqueline would actually like block me if she saw this.

Did it hurt?

It kind of hurt.

Yeah, it hurt.

Yeah, yeah.

It wasn't pleasurable.

Right.

I haven't had short nails in so long that like I went to Pet Butter and I saw my own hand and scared myself.

I was like, whose hand is that?

No, it's like anything.

It's like tanning.

It's like getting Botox.

It's body dysmorphia, but I don't have nails.

I'm like, she's a boy.

I was like, who's petting my cat?

But I kind of am into like no-nail summer because I'm active.

No.

We're ready.

We're swimming.

We're pretending to garden.

I was just telling one of my friends, like, again, bringing you up in conversation.

Like,

someone ever brings up anything also, like, athletic in conversation.

I'm like, I surely can't.

But my friend.

And I was just telling someone recently, I was like, no, I don't think you're grasping like...

the gravity of what I'm saying to you.

Hannah and I are complete opposites.

She's on teams in the summer.

She's getting up.

She's playing tennis.

She's running.

She's doing laps.

I was like, her and

sports.

I love sports.

Games.

I think she married her husband so that they would have like a doubles for any sport.

Our third date was a volleyball tournament where we got in a voice.

I mentioned that.

I mentioned that.

And it was like a six-hour volleyball tournament.

I'm like, fuck my weekend.

Let's beat up little kids.

Yeah, so no, so I get that you're active in the summer.

Yeah, so this was just for all my activities.

This is how we're different.

I'm trying to plan when Jacqueline's coming next because I have to be in Italy for a certain amount of weeks.

And I'm like, what is the ideal time so that my nails will last?

But

I know we're different, which is why I enjoy, like, I'm currently shopping for your Italy trip.

I sent you a Chloe bag today.

You didn't respond.

It was vintage.

You didn't like it.

You didn't like it.

I didn't love it.

I didn't love it.

This is Paige doesn't respond when she doesn't like something.

But when she likes it, she writes, love.

Cute.

Cute.

Love.

Oh, love.

Oh, love.

okay speaking of love yes the pod was coming out on a wednesday this week which we apologize like logistics semantics we don't

it's a whole thing yeah

but

now the gigglers are well aware that daphne has launched which has been

i I really, I don't even have words.

I had to, I was filming like a little video haul of like all the Daphne clothes, and I had to keep stopping and restarting.

I was like, I've never been so nervous to talk about something.

Usually if I'm filming something, I'm like, love it, hate it.

It's so cute.

Put it with this.

Usually when I talk, I don't care.

Usually when I talk, I don't know what I'm saying and I'm not going to think about what I said.

No, like anytime I do something, they're like, here are the notes.

I'm like, you'll get what I said.

Like, I don't, we can't plan these things.

Like, suddenly, you don't know how to form a sentence because you're like, nothing can explain this how I want to.

I'm immediately Leah Michelle.

I'm like, oh, I don't read.

So please don't give me a script or any type of notes.

Like I say it off the cuff.

Yeah.

But when it's my own brand, I'm like, what are the emotions I want the girls to feel?

And I have been working on Daphne for, I mean, how long now?

Like two solid years.

Can we backtrack a little?

Like, how did this come to be?

Can we tell the girls how an entrepreneur is

made?

I got the idea.

How is the salami made?

I got the idea for Daphne, I would say, like three years ago, where I was like, I've decided that what I want to do is make pajamas.

I want to make loungewear.

I want it to be functional.

There were so many different things I wanted it to be.

So it was really like I incubated on it.

Like I didn't just make a random move.

Like I truly thought out, wrote things out, all of the things.

You just said incubated.

I'm in, we're in a we work.

I get the idea and I really, it was really important to me to get like the exact right people to do what I certainly didn't know how to do.

I knew I had the creative, I knew I had the idea, and I knew I had exact specifications of what I wanted each item to be.

And the one thing I'll say throughout this entire process, when you're doing something creative, I feel like there is a point where you're like, I hate this.

I want to change everything.

I've decided against it.

Like in whatever facet of like that you're working in, there was not one moment throughout Daphne that I was like, I hate X, Y, or Z.

Like I loved everything.

I was like I went to bed every night being like, I'm really happy with this decision.

Whether it was like the certain piping or like a different like pink dye.

Wait, what's a piping?

Like I like on our pointel pants, I have like piping on the sides, but I wanted it to be flattering, but I wanted it to look athletic, but still like pajamas.

So like there were just certain little meticulous things that I wanted that were small decisions, but every single one I made very thoughtfully.

Yes.

The name,

this is like cosmic because in no situation did I have the name Daphne even on my list of cat names when I got Daphne.

It just like came to me in the moment.

Yeah.

Well, she's you look at her and you're like, okay, that's a Daphne.

I was like, that's a, yeah, that's a Daphne.

And so when it came to naming my brand,

I mean, I went back and forth with so many different things, wrote them out, loved it one week, changed it the next.

And then I actually didn't even have the idea of Daphne.

Someone on my team said, what about Daphne?

And right when I heard it, I was like.

You go, and that's what I pay you for.

And that, no, literally, and that's why you pay for it.

You look around and you go, see what she just did?

Is anyone else going to do work here?

And that is why you freaking collaborate.

I hate to say that it was a man's idea, but not going in the about us section.

Please delete that.

We cannot have that in the history of our brain.

In her story?

I don't know.

In her story.

Not in her story.

Also, he was, a woman spoke through him.

A woman spoke through him.

But I also have to say, part of being smart and part of running a business is knowing what you don't know.

And I think you are really good at that.

Where like you're not, your ego is not going to take over.

No, but you're not going to be like, oh, I'm controlling everything.

You're like, I want, and that's why I think we work well together because we've never once stepped on each other's toes

in that way.

Best idea wins.

Like what?

Period.

Sorry, my ego's not my amigo.

Funniest joke wins.

Funniest joke wins.

We just got silent.

Sorry, I was letting you have the floor.

Wait, we've never paused.

We've never seen it.

We've never stopped to be like, no, you speak.

Take a moment.

Have a pause.

Yeah.

Okay, here's one thing, one other thing I want to say.

Yeah.

Throughout the design portion of Daphne and like coming up with the pieces, the one constant has always been, I wanted to make this t-shirt that was like the ultimate t-shirt.

And nothing has was ever named, like, I didn't have names for anything, but we always referred to this t-shirt as the Hannah T.

And it is like, I honestly want to go back in emails because it was like one of my first ideas.

Like, I have to have this Hannah T.

And what gave me the idea was truly during COVID Hannah wore the same t-shirt like every single day like the Brooklyn t-shirt and you just loved it and I was like I love that you love something so much it's an emotional support t-shirt like you know it's gonna feel right it's like a sensory thing

And so I was like thinking about what are people's favorite t-shirts and why do they love them?

And a lot of them I feel like are people's college t-shirts.

It has like nostalgia.

It's the perfect, like it falls perfectly on you.

It's big enough.

It might not have even been yours.

That's how like big it is.

Just your ex-boyfriend's cousins.

Yes, like you got it from a random place.

I like to spray tan in mine, but I don't care if it gets dirty.

Like, it's just like that big t-shirt.

It's perfect for everything.

And so, like, I wanted to make the Hannah t-shirt, and I, and I'm obsessed.

It's the best t-shirt.

My one thing is if you really wanted it to be, like, perfectly my tea, you would have put a spaghetti stain on it, but I feel like that wouldn't have been your aesthetic.

So you can make your own spaghetti.

Okay, so I want to tell you something because I want you to be proud of me.

I went to the meeting and I said, Hey, here's an idea, and I'm throwing it out there.

Okay.

And I'd be remiss if I didn't throw the idea out there.

You guys might love it, you might hate it, but I'm going to put it in the atmosphere.

And they said, and I quote, it doesn't really align perfectly with our brand.

And

I love how you go, I wanted it, the team rejected it.

The team said, between me and you, you go, I fought my heart.

And like, the powers that be,

best idea wins, you know?

And that day, I didn't have the best idea.

I do think we can use this in our day-to-day life, legal jargon, where if someone, you don't agree with someone, but you don't want to take credit for it, you go, I spoke to the team, and the powers that be rejected it.

The powers that be.

And when they ask, be like, I don't know the bosses' names.

It's honestly like that.

It's not in my jurisdiction, and I don't want to overstep.

Yes.

And you know what?

I literally respect that because if you look at Giggly Squad, that's us having power.

That's what happens when we have power.

It's not good.

They actually said it feels more giggly squad.

I go, and we'll save it for merch.

Thank you.

Well, this is weird.

I know people make fun of being like, my brand, my brand.

But.

As you expand into different ventures, like there are differences of like what attracts different people and like staying true to yourself.

And I'm just so excited for you to have a place for you to like put all your creativity and your taste.

Can I tell you something else?

And like, not me bringing up a mental health moment.

Yeah.

Working on Daphne like the past two years, basically in secret, like I haven't, like, no one really knows that I was working on Daphne.

And

it has been such an not an I don't even want to say an emotional roller coaster because it's not even that dramatic.

It has truly been so much fun to be so creative with things and be like, Oh, I want to change that, or like, would this be cool?

Or like, how cute!

Like, let's see, like, a model wearing it, and like, whatever

that I haven't even thought that, like, I then have to give it to people to be like, and here is my art.

And of course, like, I love working on it, and I want it to be like one of my full-time things.

But I, and I don't want to say I don't care if people don't like it, but I love it so much, and like everything to me is so perfect

that like

if people don't like, like, and I don't even want to say that.

It's just like, I have enough love for it that it's, I feel like it's going to do well because I'm obsessed with it.

You described it perfectly where it's like, it's not about the result.

You're not doing it to like.

make it i mean look you hope you make money and you hope it's successful and i hope everyone loves it but like it's literally like that's how i felt with my netflix special when i completed it that was the joy like i remember sending it into into Netflix after we finished editing it and being like,

I'm proud of it.

And that was the hardest thing because I'm the hardest person to impress.

Like,

like, you know, how you sometimes feel like, oh my God, I don't have a hobby.

Like, if someone asks, what are your hobbies?

It's like, okay, like laying on the couch.

This has truly been like my hobby.

It's your passion project.

Yeah, for the past two years that it's almost like, oh, if someone said they didn't like my needle point, I'd be like, I don't care.

It's my freaking hobby.

That's what I said to des when he said it looks stupid i said this is my pride and joy and i don't do this for other people i have been thinking how did the green flower go that night you know i haven't finished it i'll i'll take a picture and post on the giggly account no you must put it in the news and for people who are asking about my needle point i actually got it on amazon for like twelve dollars but now i'm gonna i think invest in one that's like maybe better because I don't know, we'll see.

But I've been getting a lot of DMs asking about it.

It really like struck a chord with the Giggler community.

community I got a lot of messages about each year we get older and older and so and it's a hobby that involves stabbing that doesn't hurt anyone seems healthy to me.

It really does you need to put your anger somewhere, especially if you're Italian.

Um one thing

like Des our wise des said to me

because especially in as an entrepreneur We have a lot of highs and lows and also even if you have a regular job like you're chasing getting a raise you're chasing doing a product like you have so many things you chase.

And then once you get it, you're human.

So you're always like, what's the next thing?

And Dez always said, you have to make it about the work.

Are you loving the process of what you're doing?

Because if you're not enjoying the process, even when you get what you wanted, it feels empty.

So I'm just, I'm so happy that you like put it creatively.

We live in a time that's a lot about like showing off.

I love how I just go, we live in a time and you start nodding.

You didn't even know what I was going to say.

You were like, yes, preach.

Preach.

amen.

That's what I've been saying.

That's that meme with the woman in the bag.

Exactly.

Exactly.

We live in a time.

Because where's the lie?

We do.

We do.

Where is the lie?

We live in that time.

And

everyone's posting what they're doing all the time and showing off what they're doing, what they've been doing, what they're going to do.

Let's bring back moving in silence.

Let's do it.

Let's bring back like do something for yourself.

And, like, great.

Like,

you're going to, you know, get articles and awards and whatever.

But, like.

Awards.

Like, I don't know.

Their first ever Jammy awards.

I love that.

Sign me.

Yeah.

I'm trying to win an Emmy for a Jimmy.

But I just think

the fact that you had something that you were working on and not constantly putting it in people's faces.

And now you are going to promote it, which, as you should.

But, like, there's something to be be said of like having your own stuff that you're working on for yourself that you enjoy no it's it really is so true like it's obviously like i've wanted to post it and i'm but really because i'm just like guys i feel like you're gonna love it too okay so go to daphne the label.com you can sign up follow us at at daphne for instagram and then our tick tock is at shop daphne my vibe for the instagram is like curated beautiful and then our tick tock i really want it to be like like unhinged.

And I want like Daphne the cat to be at the forefront because she truly deserves it.

Obviously, I'm going to give a little something extra to my gigglers.

So if you're in the Giggly Squad newsletter, you will be getting free shipping.

But make sure you go to it's daphne the label.com, sign up, and then you'll be on our email list.

And then we launch next Tuesday.

So it's June 10th is our actual launch date where you can buy clothes.

But make sure you're signing up because you'll you'll get all the emails, you'll get the alerts, and all of this stuff.

Okay, one more note because I just feel like I have to say it on the pod.

Yeah.

There are these pajama pants.

There are poplin pajama pants, and I made them specifically for the summer of like, you know, when you wake up and you're like, I want to go outside, but I'm like, I'm in my pajamas and like other people are dressed.

And it's just, you're in that weird in-between.

It's like 11 a.m.

And you're like, you wake up, it's 5 p.m.

Yeah, and you're like, it could go either way.

It's the perfect, just like summer morning pant.

You could have a bathing suit on under it.

You could have nothing on under it.

You could have slept in it.

You could have put it on in the morning.

Like, it's just, you could have it on with a kitten heel or a crock.

Oh, depending on where you sit on it.

Depending on where you're at.

Depending on whose team you're on.

You could wear that too.

Also, sometimes I want to wear pants, but I don't want to wear like heavy sweatpants.

And I don't want to wear shorts because I'm just don't want to be running around shorts because sometimes there's bugs.

And it's very specific.

I hate to say it, but I, I mean, I did cater to Gen Z a little.

I said, what if we did a longer boxer?

You know, like

what if we did a low-rise, something that the girls can wear with their loafers?

You know, they love doing that.

Well, speaking of Gen Z, I told Grace, like, I was like bragging.

I was like, do you know Paige has the Hanna T, like she named it after me.

And she was like, oh my God, did you model it?

And I was like, oh my God, I must have missed the email.

She goes, You didn't model the shirt, and I go, Wait, that's crazy.

No, okay,

really,

just wait, one thing back to like doing something for yourself and it just like being so fun.

I've been cosplaying like this whole time with Daphne.

Like, the only time I've been getting dressed up is to like go to like a Daphne meeting because we, me and Josephine, like, pretend it's Devil Wears Prada.

We're just like obsessed.

Wait, what was I saying

about the models?

So, the day of the photo shoot, we actually did it in my apartment.

The photographer was so talented and like the creative director.

Like, it truly didn't even look like my apartment.

Having real models like in your home, modeling your brand, like I had to leave the room because I almost started crying at one point.

I was just like, this is the best day of my life.

And I didn't put it even on Instagram.

One more question.

This is obviously the beginning of hopefully a very long journey for you.

Yeah.

What is something that surprised you about the process that you did not anticipate?

Oh my gosh, that is a great question.

I'm a journalist.

What is something?

Yeah, what is something that surprises me?

You go like this.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

She takes her long finger and she puts it on her nose.

That's when she's really thinking.

Okay, small things that you would think would be easier to change are not as easy to change, and everything is like a rigmarole.

Like,

for example,

should one of the ties on the pants, should it be detachable, should it not be detachable?

Like, should the buttons be functional or not be functional?

Should they be hidden?

Like, there's so many little things.

And then, like, I wanted to change the buttons because they were like one centimeter I thought too big.

And so then we have to wait for like shipping on these different buttons.

Like there's a lot of nuanced little things that you don't think about.

Yeah.

The process.

But truly, that's why I feel like I did keep it a secret for so long was because I really did like doing it.

And I'm like, this is, there's no rush in this.

Like this is fun for me and I like this.

So like if we have to wait for these buttons, I want to be really excited about these freaking buttons.

And so let's wait.

And so I really didn't want to like force anything out too soon.

And I feel like that is why it's taken me a little bit, but I'm so

like, I'm obsessed with it.

I'm so excited.

Congratulations.

Daphne doesn't even know.

She does.

She feels it.

Wait, can we discuss Daphne's Duncan commercial?

She's a star.

That was

so good and so funny.

And immediately I'm getting messages, why isn't butter in something yeah and i said look

butter is difficult to work with butter can be soft it's gone around the industry like you know you have one bad moment

like butter ran away when someone walks out is a diva butter's but people are saying she's a diva which means she's just a strong woman who speaks her mind

um

i showed her i said you could This is what you could be doing.

Wait, I showed Daphne.

I was like, you're in a commercial.

Do you want to see it?

She stared for a little bit.

I was like, you're gorgeous.

You're gorgeous.

She's like, who's that?

That's me.

Butter saw herself in the mirror the other day and got scared and fluffed up and tried to fight herself.

That's what we're dealing with.

The mental health over here, it's not great.

We're fighting our own demons.

But then someone, the Giggly Squad memes account, which is so funny, was like, can we do a, I can't believe it's not Butter

promo oh my god and tagged them and posted a photo of butter where she looked I mean she's beautiful she looks like Cindy Crawford like it's not about her looks it's like the personality should we just like make our own fake commercials

If we were friends when we were like 13, that's what we would have done.

We would have made our own fake commercials.

We would have had so much fun on our MacBooks.

Do you remember the iMovie?

We would have literally been making music videos.

We would have been like, oh my God.

We would have made like skits skits and stuff.

We were content creators back in the day, we would have been.

So, anyway, I tagged, um, so you think it's not butter, or I think that's what it's called, and I think they like they like liked it.

And I was like,

Okay,

I'm getting embarrassing.

Oh man, well, okay, well, we're gonna go with um,

what's the Irish butter?

Irish butter,

Kerry Gold.

Kerry Gold butter is half-Irish because of Des.

So look at me just trying to hawk her around.

There's nothing like good freaking butter.

Ugh.

Can I tell you?

I highly recommend Kerry Gold.

It's my favorite.

So as you know, I love Lululemon.

These pants are sturdy.

Like these yoga pants, I've had a pair of Lululemons for 15 years.

That's longer than any relationship I've ever had.

And you need a sturdy pant.

As someone who's been called, what was your nickname?

Gwazilla.

You need a be like it.

It needs to hold it all in.

It needs to hold it in.

And I'm so excited because they have the new Align No Line pant, which means like, you know, I do get sensitive with like lining.

Like I was really weird with socks.

If the line is like off on my sock, the day is ruined.

So I love that there's no lines on it and it's just like so cute and bodacious.

But not all yoga pants are created equal.

No, they're not.

This is why I like the align no line pant because when I buy a pair of leggings, I want to be able to wear those leggings not only to like work out, but I also want to wear them in outfits.

And when you have like the seams on the side, you can't put that with a riding boot.

You can't wear that with a blazer.

No, it looks like a workout legging.

It's distracting.

And I want them multifunctional.

Yes.

No, that's so smart.

It also has this famous Nulu fabric that's like buttery, soft, weightless.

I hate when the texture is too tight and I feel like a sausage and I'm like, or it's too thick.

I love

quality fabric that's not going to like be weird after I wash it.

I mean, I've had every bad legging experience because look, I'll buy a legging.

I'll try it out.

And you're like, this is not.

Well, I live in a legging.

What are we going to do?

Wear jeans

in our own homes?

Are we farmers?

I also love their wide waistband.

It's like there's no digging.

There's no rolling.

It just supports you in the right places.

And I really like right now, tell me if i'm wrong i love like a bell bottom like i like when the bottom goes down a little great for traveling it's traveling it's trendy and you could wear yeah boots heels whatever you want with it and life is too short to wear uncomfy pants i'm not doing it and these pants are made for summer chaos and comfort you guys know i'm a chaos goblin at times um but sometimes i want to be cute and comfortable i agree i'm usually Pretty cute and comfortable.

You, yeah, you're out the day.

You're pretty consistent.

And so I'm thankful to Lululemon for keeping me on my streak.

Do you remember when it was like people thought it was crazy when girls were wearing Lululemic not to work out?

Everyone was like, what is going on in the world?

Well, they created the whole new term athleisure.

Sorry, athleisure was what the world was meant to do.

Sorry, girls are working.

Yeah, we're credit cards.

We have bank accounts now.

Yeah, sorry that we're allowed to have credit cards.

And we're allowed to wear Lululemon pants anywhere we want.

So here's the bottom line.

The aligned no line pant isn't just a legging.

It's a lifestyle.

This special segment was brought to you by Lululemon and ACAS Creative.

So go ahead, live your best main character life all summer.

Just make sure you're wearing the line, no line pant while you do it.

Also, there's some photos of me at the store wearing it or on the website.

Check it out.

I'm doing like kind of a yoga pose.

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Did you see that I went to the Liberty game?

I did.

Oh, let's speak on it because I got a video of you, which was just like, it looked like I hired a private detective to follow you places and be like, tell me who she talks to.

I got a tag from you, and it's a video of me.

And I go, Where did you get this?

No, it was so love that you have people.

Like, you have people everywhere, but it's true.

Like, wherever you go, I need to know what's going on, too.

Like, we just

in public, yeah, of course.

We keep eyes, we protect, we serve.

So,

their mascot.

Adorable.

Ellie Belle.

It gives me, like, it gives me mini mouse vibes.

The sassiest mascot.

She would dance behind the security guard, like just fucking with everyone.

Such a giggler.

She does like crazy, like amazing dance moves.

So one thing I want to say about the Liberty,

because it's women playing and the crowd that it brings, it's literally all not for the male gays.

Yeah.

And I can't explain the feeling, but it was just like

gays and girls.

Yeah.

and

when it was time for the dancers to come out

i forgot what their name was but it was a group of old women in sparkly dresses who go out and dance and the crowd sold out lost their fucking minds i'm upset they were and they were loving like i didn't feel that kind of like joy i feel like sometimes when you go to a um a male basketball game yeah like everything's like yeah what do the guys want to see or like you just don't feel like it's for you sometimes Yeah.

This is the thing.

The only thing I can relate this to is like an all-girls high school gym class.

Yes, exactly.

Except the girls are all like incredibly athletic.

Incredible athletes.

Like, people don't know what it's like to be inside of an all-girls high school gym class when people are worried about it.

The way I would have dominated, like, the way I would be like blocking people's shots and shit, like, I would walk in and be like, move.

I'm here.

The fact that I was like considered good.

No, you know what?

I'm thinking myself playing crazy.

I'm like, Dodgeball and being like just begging the shit out of people.

Well, that's what we played.

We played Capture the Flag Dodgeball.

Catholic school.

No, we don't have to go by public school regulation.

He pelts someone right in the fucking head.

Yes, blame Jesus.

It was Jesus.

No, they got crazy.

Yeah, the shit.

Would get really crazy.

So the thing with the Liberty game, what was crazy about it is that my dad is the biggest Liberty fan in the world.

Wait, things I didn't know I needed more of.

You and your dad mic'd up at sporting events.

That's a whole series I would watch.

Can we make you up?

And I was like, this is my dream.

This is my dream.

Like, am I just...

Do I just talk for no reason?

No, I need to be recorded and I need attention.

Yeah.

So.

My dad is obsessed with Brianna Stewart.

She's like one of the greatest basketball players of all time.

Like, I think he does love her more than me, but I'm working on that in therapy.

So,

Hannah, him being like, come on, you could get out there with them.

Like, that is cute.

That was so cute.

He's like, come on.

He's so used to coaching me.

He's so used to coaching me that I feel like he's like, get out there.

Let me yell.

That was the equivalent of my dad being like, you could have married Prince Harry.

That is so hard.

Come on, get out.

You could be a princess.

My dad did coach me with basketball, and I was really good, except I had like

I have small fingers and like I'm never gonna palm a basketball like you could palm a basketball.

We get there and they have this thing called the Crown Club which is like Jay-Z

is part of all the Barclays Center stuff.

So you go to the Crown Club first and

look, I don't wanna brag.

But I'm kind of in with the power lesbian community of New York.

Okay.

Like I've of New York.

Of New York City.

There's a thing There's, it goes by state.

And in New York, I'm up there.

When I tell you.

Wait, this is such a sex in the city episode, like when Charlotte hangs out with all the lesbians and like, they're like, are you going to be a lesbian?

And she's like, I can.

They're like, then you buzz off.

So.

I'm close friends with Renee Stubbs, who is a Grand Slam winner.

And like, she's kind of one of these social butterflies who's friends with everyone, making me the most powerful lesbians in the world.

So she texts me.

Obviously, she's at the Liberty Game because that's where the power lesbians congregate.

And it's me and my dad.

So we get to the table and it's just like all power lesbians.

Like one girl like ran a vagina microbiome company, obviously telling my dad about it.

The other one, there's

Sophia Bush, someone who cured UTIs, like the woman that invented tampons was sitting there.

Ashlyn Harris, who's the incredible soccer player was there so we sit down and my dad's just there and i gotta be like guys this is my dad and i think at first they were like no like this is illegal like this is

and they were like and where's your other dad because this is not acceptable exactly but when they realize that he was like a real fucking huge fan like he was there for the game they fucking loved him and they're they're talk like they're gossiping next you know my dad is a power lesbian like he's in it with them and then

behind him i see

sue bird

who is like his favorite basketball player of all time and one of mine so i look at him i say dad sue birds behind you

He starts like gasping for air and all the lesbians are like what's going on I'm like he's he loves sue birds so Renee's like yeah, she's my friend.

I'm gonna go get her And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no.

Like, you know, I hate that.

I get very like, no, no, no, no, no.

Like, I want to don't.

You don't bother Sue Bird.

I don't bother Sue Bird.

She's eating.

Like, she's literally eating.

That's like rule number one of rules.

She gets up.

Sue Bird comes walking over.

And I know that Sue Bird

and Megan Rapino have a podcast.

Everyone go listen to it.

And they listen to our podcast.

Like, they're gigglers.

Oh, my God.

I knew I

had an in.

Okay.

So I this is a sports podcast.

This is a sports podcast.

So I said, Sue, I'm obsessed.

I want to introduce you to my dad.

I look over to my dad.

His eyes are welling up.

He's crying.

When I tell you, I haven't seen my dad cry ever.

No, really?

No, not really.

See, my dad is an emotional guy.

No, my dad doesn't cry.

My dad doesn't cry.

My dad's like, I'm going to go play golf for eight hours.

That's how he processes his emotions.

so i look over and he's literally like can't get the words to like when starstruck was happening to him but then i see my dad cry so then i start getting emotional so sue birds just like then you start talking then you start to tease your dead grandpa it's like it's such well i was like sue like he was i started talking for him because he's just like peeing himself So I'm like, you know, he's my coach and like he would always say like play like Sue Bird.

People don't talk about that enough.

Like when you get to the age where you're in a situation and you're like, oh my God, my parents are flailing right now.

I have to talk for them.

No, in that moment.

Me at the airport with my parents.

I'm like, sorry, they don't speak English.

I don't know.

They forgot everything they've ever been taught.

I'm like, oh, you're not Delta Platinum?

Grow up, Gary.

So my dad is crying.

And then me and her just start talking.

I think he got out some words.

We smile, she leaves, and he's like, did I just cry in front of Sue Bird?

And I was like, yeah, like

you, the power lesbians are disappointed in you.

Like,

that wasn't cool.

But then he's just having the best time of his life, and we get to our seats.

And this is just a side note.

I haven't like socialized that much in a while.

There's so many little things that happen that could like ruin your night.

I felt like I had a booger.

Do you know when you have a you feel like there's a booger and then you finally like I'm at a fucking basketball game like who knows who could be looking at me?

But I'm like, I have to make sure there's not anything in my nose.

And it's like kind of itchy.

No, I'm like, yes, it's itching.

And like, you think it's, it's, like, hanging, and you can't find it.

And when you have fake nails, you can't, like, feel.

No, I know.

So

I'm just like sticking my finger in my, and I can't find it.

And then, like, I was talking to Sophia Bush, and she, like, looked at my nose, and I was like, I have a booger in my nose.

So then, for like

30 minutes of the game, I'm trying to find where this booger is.

You're like, Sophia Bush told me that I have a booger.

Sophia Bush literally was like, get your shit together next time you talk to me.

No, side note, Sophia Bush was so nice

and fun and silly and goofy, just like everything you want her to be.

I mean, she's Brooke Dave S.

My dad had no idea who she was, and she's just like chatty-chatting with him.

And I go, Dad, she's from John Tucker Must Die.

She's one of the most iconic TV characters of all time.

Of all time.

He goes up to her after he goes, You were in, you were in

Jack Must Die.

And she's like, what are you talking about?

She starts laughing.

She's like, close enough.

Close enough.

So anyway, we had,

I think I got the booger.

Like, I never really had that moment of freedom and like closure.

But like, I think I was fine.

And

if, if you guys have the opportunity to go to a WNBA game, go is moral of the story.

And I messaged Sue Bird.

Sorry, my dad and I cried when we met you.

Wait, I love that.

She hasn't responded yet.

Wait, how much fun?

It was a lot of fun.

We love a basketball game.

We really do.

I'm like sportsed out, though, for the moment.

Well,

baseball season's just getting into.

I know, I know.

But like, I feel like

I can meet up with them in like a month or two.

Like, they'll still be at it.

You know,

it's forever.

When people get upset about a game, I'm like, there's 400 games.

Calm down.

I'm like, it's fine.

And I just felt like I had to watch the Knicks because I live in New York and I had to be, you know, I wanted to share

what everyone was talking about.

I know this is like niche New York, but like the Knicks have sucked for so long, which Paige didn't know.

I didn't know.

You know what?

And I had a really hot take.

I was watching, actually, with my brother and his girlfriend.

And

I said, you know what?

The Knicks kind of deserved to lose.

The other team was a better team.

And

I'm sorry I'm not a sports broadcaster, but I felt like in that moment.

No, that's how I get over things.

I'm like, we don't deserve this game.

Like, no, Indianapolis deserved that game.

They, but the Knicks are just, they were torturing us.

I'm kind of happy.

It's over.

Like, don't give me hope.

I don't need to.

Do you want to know what next year is their year?

They need one more good player.

Wait, can I say one more?

We weren't cohesive.

We were cohesive.

We were so.

Everything you're saying is correct.

Everything they're saying is correct.

I have eyes.

I can watch a game and have and have takes.

No, you're like my mom because she like never played basketball, but she watches it so much that she literally knows everything.

She'll be like, that guy's defense is bad.

That guy's not good.

Going on his left, and that guy fouls too much.

Indianapolis was so in sync.

It was like as if they were playing for 15 years together.

They're moving the ball, communicating, literally.

Their body language is saying everything to each other.

It's like watching two relationships and being like, you guys like each other, and you guys, like, something's off.

Get someone.

You need to add someone new in this relationship.

They need to add another person.

One more thing about the Liberty.

Because it's all girls, like when the other team would mess up, like normally, if it's like I'm at a Knicks game, the other team messes up, I'm like, boo, you saw me.

Because it was girls, I'm like, I root for women.

Like, when the other team messed up, I'd be like, Good try.

Next time.

And you're going to get them next time.

Like, I wasn't, I was not going to yell at another woman.

Like, when they missed, I felt bad.

I was like, no, she doesn't deserve that.

She works so hard to get here.

She doesn't deserve that.

So I was.

Wait, I so get that.

That's like how I feel watching the Olympics and it's like any, and it's like a female.

I'm just like, but they did so good

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Anyway, you haven't brought up that I have a new Instagram photo.

We've been talking for 40 minutes.

Like, what kind of friendship is this?

It's so funny because when you DM'd,

you are so selfish about yourself.

It's always about you.

I can't do anything.

I can't get attention.

When you DM'd me and said, like, just to let you know, I changed my Instagram photo, like, didn't want you to be alarmed.

It was like,

truly, three seconds prior to that, when I was reading a previous DM from you, I was like, oh my god, she changed her Instagram photo.

Like

it's such a, it's such a mood.

I haven't shown a secret.

It's jarring.

You keep your Instagram photo for more than six months.

I did keep it for a long time.

So it's, I just feel like everything's different.

I'm different now.

Like you guys can start treating me differently.

It's like you're in a new era when you change your Instagram profile picture.

Yes.

I think if you're like in a funk, before you like do something drastic, change your Instagram profile.

Wait, I feel like you've influenced me and I feel like I'm like needing a change.

No, I was like, why hasn't she changed it?

Last time you changed it, you of course changed it to black and white and it looked just like Des's.

And if you guys don't know, Des and Paige are the same person.

They're literally the same person.

I can't explain it.

They're both Scorpio Kings.

And I was like,

my two favorite people in my life have the same profile picture.

Yeah.

What's your new one going to be?

You and Daphne?

You know, I'm not sure.

Yeah.

You can't force it.

You can't like look for it.

It has to just it has to come and I'm and I'm feeling though, I'm feeling like later in the week, it will be different.

I think you should do something bright for summer.

Okay.

Oh, I saw Sunset Boulevard.

Sorry, I was busy.

I was busy in New York City this week.

I saw Sunset Boulevard, the play with Nicole Schrosinger.

Oh, you did that quick.

You just said you wanted to go see that.

I know.

No, when I want something, I get it.

You get it.

I want it.

I got it.

Who did you go with?

I lived in New York City for so many years, and I never go to Broadway plays.

I went with Haley

and my mom.

Okay.

It's not for you.

Yep.

And I'm not going to put it on you.

She was so creative.

Her voice, it's crazy to see a pop star that's like, loosen up my buttons, babe.

I love her.

And I always thought she was talented.

Yeah.

Some people like don't respect pop stars.

I do because I respect women.

Her voice was like operatic.

Like

insane.

Like

she was singing for that Tony.

Do you know that she's like the original wag?

Who is she with?

She was with.

No, she was with a Formula One.

Louis Hamilton.

Yes.

He's not a Formula One.

He's the Formula One.

For

years

they were together.

And fun fact, fact, they were both at the Met Gala this year.

So many exes were at the Met Gala.

We have, wait, we have not even spoken about our dear, dear, dear, dear friend,

Haley become Haley selling her company for a book.

I do have to say,

I had a beautiful moment of like, I feel like that's something you should be jealous of.

The warmth in my heart when I saw that.

Yeah.

I was like, it was like one of us won.

It was one of us won.

Did you not feel like one of your friends?

A win is a win.

A win is a win.

A win is a fucking win.

I was like, hell yeah.

I was like, you know what?

Hell yeah.

Hallie.

What the hell?

Fuck yeah, Haley.

I think it's because I know it pissed some people off, which makes me happy.

Me too, I was like, oh my God, the amount of people that have been making just the most insane videos about her saying the worst things, tearing her marriage apart, all the things.

And she's like, sorry, I can't hear you.

I was busy inking a billion-dollar contract.

So many people love to talk shit on women for like,

and calling her a gold digger and whatever, da-da-da.

And like, yes, Justin is a huge part of her life,

but so many celebrities have brands that they don't put the effort in.

They don't have the X factor.

Let's be honest.

Every woman copies Haley Bieber

and she uses this shit and she created amazing team around her.

Honestly, it shows like there's so many different facets of your life.

And if she is, I'm not saying this is true, this is alleged, if Justin is struggling really hard, like she also has other places in her life where she's getting fulfilled.

Right.

Because your life is not just based on who you're with.

That's not.

going to bring you happiness.

That's not going to fulfill you.

Perfect.

Career terminated.

So that's huge.

And now I kind of feel like

even more celebrities are going to try to put their name on stuff.

I don't know.

I think it's, or it's just a big time for building brands, but

she is unique with like

what she built.

It's great.

Yeah.

And we don't have to pit women against each other.

There's space for rare.

There's space for Rode.

There's space

for everyone.

And we love them too.

Vote for us for president.

And we love them too.

And he is a nice man, Savannah.

Wait, I'm so excited for the episode to drop tonight.

Well, it's out already.

Right, it will have been out already.

The tennis episode.

The Wisconsin episode.

So the funniest part about the episode, it actually was the most like reality TV where

when I watched it.

I was talking about you behind your back and you didn't know.

I didn't know.

The storyline literally wasn't what I experienced.

I thought it was going to be like this, like, adorable

Hannah playing.

It's like Paige being like, Hannah tricked me.

I don't want to be here.

I'm having monstrous.

You go, I'm being tortured.

I'm held against my will.

So, that's if you want to know how reality TV works, watch this episode.

It would be funny.

It would be so funny to do for each episode two edited episodes: One, your edit, one, my edit.

How I thought the day went versus how you thought.

As a science experiment, we should just take one episode and completely re-edit it and show like what reality TV, like how

do we go?

People were commenting, like obviously we were super busy.

If we had more time and maybe we'll do this in the future, I think it would be really fun with confessionals.

But like we kind of did confessionals throughout.

Like just to the camera.

Next time we film a vlog, I'm going to be in a different headspace, and it's going to be different.

I already have so many ideas.

Write them down so you don't forget.

Yeah, confessionals would be so fun.

Oh, yeah.

So, Sunset Boulevard, she ends, like, with blood.

That's, like, the thing.

Oh, okay.

Takes a bow, so it's, like, kind of gone viral, her bleeding.

Um, I love a woman

with like blood, normalizing blood.

It's basically me every time I try to shave my toes.

It just gets everywhere.

It's like this just reminded me of it, and I don't know why.

And like, I feel like you could tell how I got here because like blood, period, whatever.

The other day,

you know how you're just like, you're a woman against thongs.

It's not for you.

You're only doing it if it's absolutely necessary.

And I'll still fight it.

And you'll fight it.

I was wearing a pair of sweatpants in my own home.

But I didn't have any underwear on.

Like I just, they were like a, like my aloe sweatpants.

They're just like big.

And so like I was just, I'm I'm not gonna put any underwear on I'm in my own house whatever so I'm walking around my house because I'm obviously trying to also get my steps in and I thought to myself interesting is this what it feels like to not wear a thong and to wear granny panties because like my butt's just like out but like together

honestly it feels like that except with a warm hug.

Okay.

Can I tell you something?

I don't like raw dogging it like that.

That's too open.

Can I tell you something why I think you're diabolical for it?

I hate the feeling of walking and feeling my butt cheeks together.

Okay, I feel like I get sweaty and I'm like itchy.

When you wear a thong, it doesn't like separate, it separates a part of your butt cheek, but then the rest of your butts are touching, right?

I just felt like my butt was closer together than I'd like.

You go, we're cousins, not twins.

That's crazy.

I also think, I'm gonna be honest, I think I maybe I have a fat ass.

And I think when you put a thong in it, I'm like, it feels like, I don't know, it makes it like bigger.

And what do you think during the week we think about each other, but we don't.

I'm at the point where like everything I hear or see has to go through like, what would Paige think?

Which is actually.

I'm at the part where like, I feel like we're still in our honeymoon phase, even though we've been together for like seven years.

I'm still at the part where, like, I'm looking for ways to bring you up in conversation or like see something, and I'm like, Hannah would love that.

We're literally couples, like, you can fall in love deeper over time,

like, love transforms.

Like, our honeymoon phase hasn't like gone, like, it's gonna be like this forever.

I think.

Oh, my God.

Any guy you're with has no chance.

I feel so fucking bad for them.

No, I know.

It's so just like,

oh man.

It's really tough out here.

Have you watched sirens?

I'm obsessed.

See, like,

I can't stop watching, but I, like, don't know if I like it.

Hannah.

It's so good.

I feel like at the very end, have you watched the whole thing?

No, I'm like three episodes in.

Okay, wait till you get.

No.

Well, anything Julianne Moore does, I'm it.

Like, she's incredible.

Perfection.

She's incredible.

My thing is, Megan Fahey.

When you finish the whole series as a whole, there is a bigger meaning.

It's actually so tailored to you because it basically says how multifaceted women are.

They're not good or bad.

They're not like evil or like angel.

Like there's so, and there's everything is nuanced.

No, everything is nuanced.

No, but you always say women are multifaceted.

Don't put me in a box.

And they kind of prove throughout the series, you can't put any of them in a box.

I love a show where, like,

yeah, you can't put your finger on the villain.

Like, just when you think someone is, you're like, wait.

And then you're like, oh,

I like that.

And you like, I love when you see the villain's perspective.

And you're like, well, yeah.

I love Megan Fahey.

I think I might have watched.

the show that she was on that was really famous that everyone watched.

What's it called?

White Lotus.

White Lotus a little too recent because I'm like, that's the girl from White Lotus.

Right.

Why are they trying to make her look poor?

She actually has great comedic timing.

Great comedic timing.

She's, I think she's like the it girl right now.

Like, she's in everything.

She's just so likable.

Do you want to know what else?

She's so beautiful.

Yeah, naturally.

Naturally.

And her eyes are crazy.

I'm like, oh my God, you don't have any lip filler.

Like, you're just such a like beautiful face.

You have such a gorgeous face.

She

also just seems like the girl you'd gravitate towards at a party to talk to.

Yeah.

Like, she wouldn't be weird.

I feel like she looks like a girl I went to high school with.

Yeah.

She's, yeah, I love her.

Okay, so I'm watching Sirens.

I have to highly recommend to you guys the Pee Wee Herman documentary.

I've been waiting this whole time to bring it up.

Okay, it's on HBO Max or Max or whatever.

Did you hear HBO Max is like going backwards?

I mean, are they

Who decided we have to go to Max and now has to be like, actually, never mind.

It's just like, what's going on in the boardroom there?

Talk about bad collaboration.

Yeah, they're not.

Obviously, Best Idea doesn't win at HBO.

Best idea didn't win.

They don't follow that.

That's like literally telling everyone, like, hey, I go by Han now.

And then after like a week, be like, no, I'm Hannah.

And it's like, what?

It's like, you literally can't give yourself your own nickname.

You cannot pick your nickname.

And that's literally the second rule of.

And that's what HBO was trying to do.

They're like, I go by Max.

We go by Max now.

No, you're not.

Someone has to give that to you.

You can't just act like you have a cool nickname.

I didn't know anything about Pee-Wee Herman.

Do you?

Not really.

It's kind of off-brand for us.

Also, it was the 80s, which we don't remember.

We weren't born.

If anything, I was like, he's this stupid character.

The lore of Pee-Wee Herman is so incredible.

So he does this documentary.

He doesn't tell anyone that he's like been dealing with cancer for six years.

Okay.

He just doesn't tell anyone.

And I'm not going to give away spoilers, but it shows the process of like how he became the character Pee Wee Herman, which involved like him being a serious actor, him getting rejected from Messon L, all this stuff.

Him coming out of the closet, going back in the closet.

finding the role and then watching him blow up, watching him get canceled.

Like it was so many things.

So like,

I love hearing someone's story about their like creative career.

As we've been, you know, the theme of this episode is the creative process.

So I highly recommend it.

And he's hilarious.

Like truly hilarious.

So he was mainly an actor though.

So he was an actor that turned into like a comedian.

And then he, because he was like an improv guy at the ground.

And you played a lot of different characters.

I feel like when I was little, I would see the Pee-Wee Herman show, but I was like freaked out by it.

I didn't like it.

It's possible.

It's because he's like quirky, but he's very like alt-comedy, like avant-garde.

Yeah.

And I didn't, I thought it was corny.

That was like, no, he's a genius.

And it was the kind of thing where he didn't want to

be himself because he's in the closet.

So he like put everything into Pee-Wee Herman.

And like, that was who he was.

Got it.

And then he gets in trouble, not as Pee-Mee Herman, and it affects pee-wee herman and it's this whole thing but um

very very interesting very interesting okay i love that

what are you watching i actually just started this show on netflix called the secret secrets we keep but it's like in sweden swedish

wait you never read um

okay well i was like shoot am i really gonna like read this and then they dubbed it over so i'm actually listening to it and So now you're just, it just sounds like everyone's like bad lip syncing.

Yeah, but I'm like obsessed.

So you love it.

It's good.

I love it.

It's good.

I feel like there was one other documentary I wanted to ask you.

I watched the Brett Favre documentary.

Is it Brett Favre?

No.

I feel like I saw it and I was like, wait, I want to see if Han, I'll think of it.

There is, there's one out about

when they put like anthrax in Advil, which I just wasn't in the mood for that.

No.

That That was like a little...

That was where I put my foot down.

I said, let's have some boundaries.

I said, do we really need to do this?

Wait, so did Pee Wee Herman die?

He's done.

And that's not a spoiler.

That's a fact.

And you have to decipher between the two.

Yeah, totally.

There's a 9-11 one, which I like can't watch 9-11 stuff, but I was, I'm like getting better.

And I watched the beginning of it.

And it was kind of,

it was really fucking interesting because it shows like

what was going on with the FBI during it, what they were hearing, what information they were doing.

I watched a couple episodes of it or the first two or something.

And then the Brett Favre documentary is basically just that he was like a creepo.

And when you're like larger than life as an athlete, you think you could get away with everything.

A tale is old as time.

Truly.

As some would say.

Sometimes like, do you ever just like, and I'm not high, but do you ever just like look at us and you're like, oh, we've been doing a podcast for for like five years?

Like, sometimes how many people are like, how do you still have stuff to talk about?

Do you ever like midway when we're like really passionate about something?

I'm like, it's a miracle that we're still talking.

No, like, I think about it all the time.

I'm just like, okay, but like, am I really going to be married to someone for 40 years?

And then, like, if I think about it, like, I've been in such a healthy relationship with you for almost 10 years.

So, this is the longest, healthiest relationship we both have ever been in.

Truly.

Literally.

literally I compare every relationship to our relationship.

Like I could

any guy, I'm like, you're not funny.

Like, if I can laugh, if I can laugh this much at home, why would I go out?

I'm like, why buy the cow when you get

I'm like, I'm laughing at home by myself.

What can you give me?

You're like, honestly, it's kind of the same with Hannah.

We like, I don't come with either of you, except she makes me laugh.

So you're out.

You're out.

You're out.

So my positive story of the week, which is a new thing we're trying.

It probably isn't going to last.

My mom and I were driving to Sunset Boulevard and it was like

raining and we're stuck on 42nd Street and we're like, we should just get out.

And my mom is like, it's raining.

Like, let's just wait a little longer.

I'm like, I don't know how long we're going to be in this traffic.

And finally, she's like, let's just get out.

The traffic's too bad.

And the guy goes, hold on.

And I'm like, did I forget something?

The Zubra driver gives us his umbrella.

And I go, At first, I was like, Is there anthrax in this?

Like, what's what's and he was like, Here.

And we were like,

New Yorkers are

beautiful.

The best.

The best people.

And I don't care what

people think.

Oh, you got robbed once if I had a nickel.

New Yorkers

are there for you.

No, in tough times.

Like, if you need help.

In tough times.

If you need help, a New Yorker is stopping and helping you.

Yes.

But if you, but they don't care.

This is my...

Yeah, they don't care about the little things, but like, he, that was so fucking sweet of him.

And it, like, made me, like, just happy in that moment.

But I do have to say, I don't fuck with umbrellas.

I think they're nasty little things.

I don't subscribe to it at all.

I think it's like...

I can't be myself if I have to hold an umbrella.

It's a social construct.

I can't hold a conversation.

I'm worrying about where my umbrella is.

Like,

I live in an alternate reality because, like, truly, when it's raining, it's raining for other people.

Not me.

It's literally not raining for me.

I treat umbrellas the same way I treat tampons.

I'm like, if I don't use it, it'll stop.

And when you're raining.

When I'm done, I'm done.

I'm done.

Also, put your hand over your head.

I need to free bleed and like

the rain needs to be free as well.

When it rains, I drew berry more of that shit because I'm not, I don't know, I don't live in fear.

I don't live in fear.

And that's the mental health moment.

You guys, thank you so much for giggling with us.

We love you

so much.

I'm so excited about Daphne.

We'll see you next week.

Love you.

Bye.

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