Giggling about babies, big pharma, and basketball

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Speaker 1 So I recently had one of those moments where I stood in front of my closet and I said, I have nothing to wear, while surrounded by hundreds of things I never touch.

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Speaker 2 Sup, gigglers.

Speaker 1 Harriet, fix your Wi-Fi.

Speaker 2 Manifest that shit.

Speaker 1 We can't be managed.

Speaker 1 I mean, the day just got away from me.

Speaker 2 Welcome to Siggly

Speaker 2 Squad.

Speaker 2 That's Giggly Squad Reverse. God.
Welcome to Squad Giggly.

Speaker 2 We're running out of names.

Speaker 1 Wait, first of all,

Speaker 2 you look...

Speaker 1 You're glowing. Like, you're stunning.
The sun is coming in. It's on tan.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but the sun is coming in. It is giving angelic.
It's giving angel.

Speaker 1 And your hair is like perfectly like bedhead, but like chic waves.

Speaker 2 Wait, do you love me today?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I love when you're pretty.

Speaker 1 It's so toxic. People don't talk about how sometimes our relationship is toxic.
Because I love you more when glam.

Speaker 2 Well, this is the problem, though. I know that.

Speaker 2 And then there's like this rebellious side to me where I thought I was going to lose you this weekend because I had to text you my nails that are like, they're grown out so bad.

Speaker 1 Wait, you know what energy you give? We can never start a podcast normal. Like we have literally before we're like, okay, we have so many things to talk about.
This wasn't discussed.

Speaker 1 You know what energy you give?

Speaker 1 You give the energy of the girl in middle school who only wore a ponytail her entire life. And then all of a sudden we hit ninth grade and she wore her hair down.
And it was like,

Speaker 2 everyone was like oh my god did you see Hannah has her hair down and it's like instant glow up and it's that's like that's you wait that's how we were raised though with those movies where like the girl would have curly hair and glasses and then she'd straighten her hair take off the glasses and everyone would be like she's amazing yeah and it was like she was pretty with glasses like what she didn't have a shield on yeah she didn't get a face transplant but yeah i sent you my gross nails and you wrote, how do you wipe?

Speaker 2 And I said, it's not easy.

Speaker 2 And then this was just a coincidence. I realized I was wearing your shoes that I had stolen.

Speaker 1 Yes. A year ago.

Speaker 2 I had like a year ago, which is like now they're mine. That's just for math.
That's the rules. If you don't ask after a short month, they're mine.

Speaker 1 Statue of Limitations has its own.

Speaker 2 But I do have to say, it's because it's Zara. Like, if they were like expensive shoes, that would be mean.
But like,

Speaker 2 if I had a nickel for how many Zara shoes you've lost around the world.

Speaker 1 You also like needed a pair like that. and I feel like they come in handy for you a lot.

Speaker 2 That was a charity case.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was like me doing a good deed.

Speaker 2 That was when we went to the open last year.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 2 But I had a,

Speaker 2 I have a huge, like, open, sore blister on my foot. Nice.
Just from

Speaker 2 honestly, like, one bad shoe walking in it. It'll do me in for the year.
And I sent that to you.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 you ignored the grossness of the blister.

Speaker 1 I did.

Speaker 2 But then I sent you Chanel flats that I found to try to cheer you up. Right.
And then

Speaker 2 I know there's a balance to how much ugly shit I could send you.

Speaker 1 Before I just like stop responding.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Yeah.
Before you snap.

Speaker 2 Before you start taking it out on your loved ones.

Speaker 2 But when I see something really gross, I just love getting, that's the thing. I love getting reactions from people.

Speaker 2 That's why I'm like the annoying older sister like i love annoying my brother and he's like why are you annoying me i'm like because you keep reacting so you love putting me in situations to see like what i'll do well our youtube series someone writes i feel like this is hannah tries new things and makes paige come with her

Speaker 1 No, I'm not kidding.

Speaker 1 You literally act like I am your Barbie doll and you take me different places and you forget my shoes sometimes and you like stuff me in different bags and you forget what bag I'm in.

Speaker 1 You're like, now she's gonna play baseball, and actually, we're gonna shave her head off.

Speaker 2 Like,

Speaker 2 it's tough,

Speaker 2 it's tough being someone's human Barbie doll, but it's so fun, and you've grown and learned.

Speaker 1 I've grown and I've learned.

Speaker 2 So, yeah, the last episode that came out was us going to a vintage store, which made me so happy because Paige was not about it in the beginning.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but it was so

Speaker 1 funny. It's also very funny to watch ourselves back because I'm like,

Speaker 1 I'm so monotoned sometimes and I don't I guess I never realize that.

Speaker 2 I laugh

Speaker 2 too much

Speaker 1 like I you enjoy your life wait, but you said something before we started recording, which is like so

Speaker 1 pertinent, I think, to our YouTube series.

Speaker 2 I yeah, S-H-A.

Speaker 1 I was in such a different headspace filming that YouTube series. Like I feel like I truly was trying to like survive day to day.

Speaker 2 What actually adds to the tension of the YouTube series?

Speaker 1 The lore.

Speaker 2 Paige is fighting for her life. Like, my life.
Paige knows that there's a show that night that she is hoping she doesn't have a panic attack with. And I'm like, let's go, yoga aerobics.

Speaker 2 And she's like, okay.

Speaker 2 And I'm like, instead of staying home inspiring and being scared, but the truth is, is after your first panic attack, I wholeheartedly believe this.

Speaker 2 If you didn't get back on stage the next day, you may have never gone on stage again.

Speaker 1 It's like riding a horse. You got to get back up on the horse.

Speaker 2 That's what Marilyn Monroe said.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That's what Molly Mae did.

Speaker 2 Yes. Oh, shoot.
I have to finish Molly Mae's docu, which is her basically like soft-launching, getting back with Tommy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Tommy Fairy. But we're happy if she's happy.

Speaker 2 We're happy if she's happy.

Speaker 1 How was your weekend?

Speaker 2 Oh, my God. I've been playing so much tennis.

Speaker 1 I knew that. that.
I felt that.

Speaker 2 I'm in my tennis phase. There was like a high school kid.

Speaker 2 People hear, like, oh, she plays tennis. There's a high school kid in the field in West Hampton that's like, oh, he plays tennis.

Speaker 1 In the neighborhood.

Speaker 2 In the neighborhood. And I was like, you know what? Fine, bring him in.

Speaker 2 I

Speaker 2 gave him no mercy. Like 16.
Okay. I gave him no mercy.
Like, it was at the point he was like, please leave me.

Speaker 1 If someone put me in a room with a 16-year-old boy,

Speaker 2 I felt like that fun substitute teacher. I was like, hey, but this is the thing with sports, it levels the playing field.
It doesn't matter what generation you are.

Speaker 2 We're playing, it's deuce, motherfucker. Let's go.
And Des was like, hey, let's calm it down. It's a Saturday.
It's relaxing. I said, he's come on my turf and he's challenged me.

Speaker 1 And I'm to my home

Speaker 2 in my

Speaker 2 personal space space with his weird testosterone.

Speaker 1 In my sanctuary.

Speaker 2 In my place of calm.

Speaker 2 And Des was like, can I talk to you for a second? He's like, you need to calm down. And I was like, he's coming from my throne.
So I whooped him.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Whooped him. If he's listening, I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 Start him young. It was very motivational for me.

Speaker 2 I talked to his dad, and his dad was like, this was good for him. And I said, if that's why I'm on this planet, it's to beat up men.
Yeah. That's why I'm on this planet.

Speaker 2 And then I hit with my friend Madison today and it was just like gossip girl talk. But I'm trying to, I told you, I'm trying to be healthier this summer.

Speaker 2 I don't know what that means yet, but we'll figure it out.

Speaker 1 Like, yeah, just moving your body more.

Speaker 1 Just, that's what people say when they get in their 30s. They go, honestly, I just move my body more.
I'm like,

Speaker 2 shut the fuck up. All I'm doing, though, is watching all the gigglers and their beautiful houses and pools and vacations, tagging us with the book.

Speaker 1 No, the girls were reading this weekend.

Speaker 2 And I'm obsessed with that. Tell me about your weekend.

Speaker 1 I had a good weekend. I was around a lot of random babies.
Like, obviously, they're random if they're not mine.

Speaker 2 You go, babies are so random.

Speaker 1 Babies are so random.

Speaker 2 Like, where'd you come from? Why are you here? Like, ask me one question about myself.

Speaker 1 I'm like, oh, you staring at me?

Speaker 2 No, literally, why do you have a stank face? Are you pooping?

Speaker 1 I met one baby, and he only spoke Italian. And I'm not kidding, he judged me the whole time.

Speaker 1 Like, I feel like he was looking at me like I'm better than you, and I would agree.

Speaker 2 I just watched the Rome tennis tournament, which I feel like we should go. We love making these kind of plans.
We should go to Rome next year.

Speaker 2 And the umpire is Italian, so after the point, they're like, Quindici, Quindici, Cuandaccio. No, not that.
Just cundici. No.

Speaker 2 It's so cute.

Speaker 1 Hearing Italian, it was so cute coming from like a miniature voice. No, like it was just adorable.

Speaker 2 I was like, are you ordering chicken parmesan right now? Like, I'm not a waiter.

Speaker 1 I was with another little baby and she asked if she could paint my nails. And look, you're obsessed.

Speaker 1 I'm obsessed. I love the girliness.

Speaker 2 I love a girl with a creative vision.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, here's the thing though. Jacqueline literally just left my apartment yesterday and so like i'm trying to explain to this four-year-old that i just got a 250 manicure

Speaker 1 and if she puts sparkles on my nails i will freak out here can i talk to you for a second

Speaker 2 i

Speaker 2 love the thought behind i'm loving the creative vision and i think you're gonna be you're gonna go places in your life see your aunt with her bare ass gross nails go do it on her okay because i'm not your girl i'm not your experiment this isn't a school project but i felt like like I was growing and I was becoming maternal in that moment because I said, you know what?

Speaker 2 Have at them.

Speaker 1 And I let her put sparkles all over my nails. And then when she wasn't looking, I ran to the bathroom and wiped them off so that they wouldn't stick to my nails.
Okay. She didn't know about that part.

Speaker 2 She didn't notice. Okay, that could have been bad.
It could have been really bad. She could have been like, mom.

Speaker 2 When I was with Lois, she found my like press-ons and she started putting them on my toes. Yeah.
And honestly, that was hilarious.

Speaker 1 And honestly, you needed it because I'm sure one of them was bruised and falling off.

Speaker 2 One of them was

Speaker 2 on its last day. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I have to a question about Jacqueline. Has she asked about me?

Speaker 1 No, she hasn't, but she likes

Speaker 2 because I haven't seen her in a long time.

Speaker 1 Okay, well, we could tell. We know you haven't seen her.

Speaker 2 No, because she gets worried that if I haven't seen her, I've like gone rogue, like, I've killed the whole family, or I've like.

Speaker 1 She actually brought me like a little gift.

Speaker 1 Jaglin and I went to the next level. She brought me like a little gift and she was like, oh, just like, she was like, oh, this is just for you.
And she gave me like some edibles.

Speaker 1 And I was like, Jaglin.

Speaker 1 So Jaglin and I stepped it up a notch.

Speaker 2 Wow, suddenly.

Speaker 1 I didn't realize having the same

Speaker 1 favorite thing that we share and nail, girl.

Speaker 1 And usually we're on the same schedule.

Speaker 2 She's never got.

Speaker 2 Maybe she knows. It's because I don't do edibles.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's because she knows you don't take edibles.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Maybe she'll bring you like a pair of crocs or something.

Speaker 2 Maybe I've been talking to her too much when she comes over.

Speaker 2 Because I actually, if I think about it, I did ask her probably one too many questions the last time she was there. And she likes that you guys just watch TV.
Sometimes less is more.

Speaker 1 We catch up on our shows.

Speaker 1 Here's one thing I wanted to do, just say quickly, because I feel like I've been giving the girls updates on my egg freezing.

Speaker 1 I finished my period that you get like after it it wasn't that bad it was a solid like seven days though do you always get your period after it is that yeah you get it yeah and were you nervous you weren't going to well i yeah because i like wasn't getting it and And what made me nervous was I was like, is my body just absorbing all of this?

Speaker 1 Like what?

Speaker 2 Where's the blood going?

Speaker 1 Yeah, where's it going? Yeah. And they were like, if you don't get it, just call us and we'll give you something that will like make it come.
And I really, you know me,

Speaker 1 I didn't want to take any drugs. Like, I was just like, I don't want to do that.
I'm so anti-birth control and like anti-pharmaceuticals. Jaclyn can roll in with any edible.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, yes, thank you, Jacqueline.

Speaker 2 But you're like, nothing doctor prescribed.

Speaker 1 Nothing, please. Nothing with big pharma.
I'm really against it.

Speaker 2 Except betas.

Speaker 1 Well, obviously.

Speaker 1 So I finished my period.

Speaker 1 Here's what I wanted to say because I don't don't know how I

Speaker 1 should honestly invest in

Speaker 1 what is it, thinks, because they saved my life while I was doing having this crazy period. Because

Speaker 1 you know, me in UTIs, I can't wear tampons anymore. And I was bleeding so much that I was like, shoot, I have to like.

Speaker 2 You were bleeding for the whole year. Like,

Speaker 2 you're making up for lost time.

Speaker 1 No, I was making up for lost time. And so I would, like, put a pad on the Thinks period underwear, and they saved my life because I don't know what's going on.

Speaker 1 I can't put any brand of tampon in me anymore. My body just immediately is like, nope, thank you.

Speaker 2 You're so pure.

Speaker 2 You're like me with cocaine.

Speaker 1 Yes, I'm so pure.

Speaker 1 Not in Miami, though.

Speaker 2 Also, if we're talking about our periods, I want to just ask the gigglers, since they are our doctors at this point, and they are doctors. Don't tell me the gigglers aren't.
I've seen them. Wait.

Speaker 2 What?

Speaker 1 Are you going to remember that?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I will.

Speaker 1 I cannot believe the amount of girls just backing up post-baby clarity.

Speaker 2 Oh, that clip.

Speaker 1 Are you? I was fat. I read everyone.
I read literally every comment.

Speaker 2 What were they saying consensus-wise?

Speaker 1 So half the girls were like, in that moment, I realized I married the right man. Like, I cried for literally two years after I had a baby because I didn't look the same.

Speaker 1 My husband had to like carry me to the bathroom to like shower me. And then the other half was like, I knew before I got married I shouldn't have married this guy.

Speaker 1 I had a baby and I stared at him and was like, I fucking hate you.

Speaker 1 And so they were like, not only is it post-baby clarity, but whilst you're pregnant, you're also getting those thoughts of like, is this the right guy?

Speaker 2 People were saying while you're pregnant, you start to see the signs too. Yeah.
While you're pregnant. But as I'm getting older, older,

Speaker 2 I and just in general, you just see how like men are so replaceable. And like when you're younger, it's so like, oh my god, like you're this one.

Speaker 2 Like, look, wherever you are, figure out the right dude and then get rid of him if he's not it, period.

Speaker 2 Slay the boots down.

Speaker 1 No, like literally set him on fire.

Speaker 2 Who cares?

Speaker 2 There's like a thing where like girls are now moving in together and like mothering each other's babies.

Speaker 1 I kind of love that.

Speaker 2 I kind of love it.

Speaker 1 It's just because, well, because girls aren't settling anymore. Like girls used to have to settle so fucking hard because they needed money.

Speaker 2 Like they needed to survive. You weren't allowed to have a credit card.

Speaker 1 You like couldn't live.

Speaker 2 Well, now they're, I also read something, and

Speaker 2 I don't know if it's true. No, it is true, but I don't remember the source.
But basically, that because women are now making more money, we're investing into things that women care about.

Speaker 2 And like all these just companies and causes that women care about are now getting stronger. So that's a positive.

Speaker 1 Oh, interesting. Like

Speaker 1 different charities.

Speaker 2 Different charities. And yeah, things you support that you want to see more of.

Speaker 2 And then your interests, because it's based like the money's shifting a little bit.

Speaker 1 It's women in the arts.

Speaker 2 It's women in the arts. Also, if everyone, I feel like everyone's talking about post-biome depression.

Speaker 2 Like, before it was this big like announcement, like, did you know that Cindy Crawford said 20 years ago she had postpartum? And I might have made that up, but like, that's how it was.

Speaker 2 Where now everyone's like, and then when the postpartum hit. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Everyone has it. I remember like asking my mom, this is probably like a couple years ago, like, oh my God, did you have postpartum like at all? Because I just,

Speaker 1 I, when I got my cat, I was like, oh, I'm going to have postpartum.

Speaker 2 I was like, I don't.

Speaker 1 Because when I got Daphne, the first day, I looked at her and I was like, I don't love you.

Speaker 2 I don't know you.

Speaker 2 You go, first of all, hello.

Speaker 1 First of all, hi, how are you?

Speaker 2 How is your day?

Speaker 1 Welcome to my home.

Speaker 1 And I remember asking my mom and she said, well, yeah, every, she was like, but we didn't call it that. She was like, everyone gets and we called it the baby blues.

Speaker 2 That's so much cuter.

Speaker 1 And I was like, and what you just, she was like, and then one day it would just go away. Like, you just lived with it.

Speaker 2 And then you were like, oh, I have the PR team was so much better in the 90s. They were like, baby blue time.
Baby blue. The baby blues.

Speaker 1 Well, did you? I have a question. Did you have a lot of girls also say like after they get married, they have like a little bit of depression.
Did you go through that?

Speaker 2 I was very just like calm after it.

Speaker 2 I think it's because sometimes when you put your wedding on such a pedestal

Speaker 2 and it goes by so fucking fast you're like wait

Speaker 2 I didn't even do it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Did I even wasn't it planning I did for a year and it's done?

Speaker 2 I remember feeling like it was way too fast and being like wow I spent a lot of money on that and but I remember feeling calm and a little relieved because I also had a little like I don't I told you that kind of the wedding attention that kind of attention is not your vibe.

Speaker 2 I don't like that vibe at all. I'm not like, look at the guy I'm fucking.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 But with postmodern depression, one more thing.

Speaker 1 Wait, calling someone's wedding just a party of look at the guy I'm fucking is

Speaker 2 it's literally in my head. I just was like, hi, Aunt, whatever.
This is the guy that I let have sex with me.

Speaker 2 And I'm glad you're here to celebrate it.

Speaker 2 I hope we stay together.

Speaker 1 That's all a wedding is.

Speaker 1 Hey, dad, I want you to formally meet the man that will be inside of me later.

Speaker 2 Wait, on this episode, this last episode of Burner Phone does was telling me that when my dad was alone with him for the first time, he basically was like,

Speaker 2 she's your problem now.

Speaker 1 That's exactly how I would think Danny would respond.

Speaker 2 And like, obviously, he loves joking, but it's so funny that my dad was Lyric cockblocking me.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Most dads would be like, please, take her. And my dad's like, I developed a Twitch while coaching her with tennis.
It's finally wearing off.

Speaker 1 He's like, here's a number for a hotline. You're going to need it.

Speaker 2 Are you sure you want to do this? But I also think Des likes a challenge. So Des was like, okay.

Speaker 2 But anyway.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's funny.

Speaker 2 I deal with depression.

Speaker 2 I know I'm brave. I deal with anxiety.
Do you think that when post-prime depression hits, it's going to be like two negatives, create a positive, and I'm going to be like, it cancels it out.

Speaker 1 It's going to be me on estrogen. You're going to be me on estrogen.
That was crazy. I loved it.

Speaker 2 Like, is depression going to try to hit? I'm like, that's adorable. I've, I've been depressed, and now let's.

Speaker 1 Well, maybe, maybe because

Speaker 1 maybe you'll react better to it because you already know what those feelings are. Like, I feel like some people, when they get postpartum, that's the first time they've ever felt those feelings.

Speaker 1 So they're like, even more like, what's going on?

Speaker 2 I do think that in general, milestones in life are emotionally

Speaker 2 dramatic. And people don't prepare you for that.
They're just like, yeah, you're going to get married. And yeah, you're going to have a baby.
And yeah, you're going to get a new job.

Speaker 2 And they don't talk about like the mental aspect of handling the ups and downs of it. And your identity.
It's identity shifting, I think.

Speaker 1 No, I was talking to one of my girlfriends and she was like, who has like three kids now? And she was just like, no, after I had my first child, like obviously I loved my child.

Speaker 1 We tried to have a baby. Like, this is a planned thing.
She was like, I had the biggest identity crisis because she was like, I didn't know if I was going to go back to work.

Speaker 1 I didn't know if I wanted to or if I didn't want to. I like didn't really like breastfeeding, like, all of these different things.
She's like, I'm a hunt, 200 pounds. Like, I was never 200 pounds.

Speaker 1 Like, it was just all this stuff. And I'm just like, yeah, I, but I feel like for us, because we are waiting to like have children later in our 30s,

Speaker 1 I think that we're more prepared than like our counterparts who like, did anyone tell them when they were 26, 27, like, hey, you're going to have an identity crisis.

Speaker 2 I do think the pro of having kids in your 30s is that you've been able to accomplish some things where some women, I know women who have had abortions in their 20s because they were like, if I have this kid right now, my dreams will not.

Speaker 2 happen and I actually can't do this right now. And it was like she wanted to be fulfilled.
Yeah. But then some people know in their 20s, like, this baby is what I want.
Right.

Speaker 2 But moms do give you, they give you mixed messages. I was talking to this mom and she was like, it is the most fulfilled you'll ever feel as a person, but you will lose yourself.
And I was like, what?

Speaker 2 I was like, wait.

Speaker 1 No, and that's why I just think like, it's so important who your husband is.

Speaker 2 They were like, I wouldn't trade anything in the world except for my old nipples. And I was like, right.

Speaker 2 Awesome.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 But yeah, your partner is the world's, the lens you see the world through, the mirror that you see yourself.

Speaker 1 And I love decentering men, and I think that like we have done such a good job in it. But at the same time, I do think that the biggest decision you make in your life is who you choose to marry.

Speaker 1 Also, I feel the same way about being in a marriage. Like if I'm in a marriage for 10 years and one day I wake up and I go, hey, this guy fucking sucks.
I'm taking the kids. I'm going.
Like,

Speaker 1 that's what prenups are for. And he will be surely signing one.

Speaker 2 You're basically like, you know what's better than being with a guy,

Speaker 2 being with a guy that you love and waiting for the right person.

Speaker 1 What's better than being with a guy is being without one.

Speaker 2 It's a fucking dream.

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Speaker 2 We haven't even started the episode.

Speaker 1 No, we haven't even started the pod.

Speaker 2 I have so many notes.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I see them. None of which makes sense.
Here, wait, just one note that I just want to say before we get into it, because this is a sports podcast. Yeah.
Did you watch the Knicks last night?

Speaker 1 I cried. I mean, I cried.

Speaker 2 Wait, are you like so into it right now?

Speaker 1 I'm locked in, Hannah. I'm

Speaker 1 dialed in.

Speaker 2 I, well, I had two amazing shows. I was in New Hampshire and I was in New Jersey.
In New Hampshire, the Knicks are playing while I'm on.

Speaker 2 And, you know, I'm being silly. I'm being goofy on stage.
I go, anyone know the Knicks score?

Speaker 2 1,700 girls start booing me. Because New Hampshire, I forget, because I'm a dumb New Yorker.
Oh, there's Boston fans. And we just beat Boston.
And when I tell you, I lost the crowd for a second.

Speaker 2 Like, I was scared. I said, gigglers, you're going to have to.
I apologize to the Academy. I said, I love Larry Bird.
I don't know what to say here.

Speaker 2 Bill Belichick's girlfriend is making me laugh right now. Like, I don't know what to say.

Speaker 1 Sorry, how can I get you back? Tom Brady is the goat. Like, I don't know.

Speaker 2 For anyone who doesn't know, the Knicks have been very bad, a very bad team for a long time.

Speaker 1 Okay, wait.

Speaker 1 So I, like, didn't know.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah, you didn't know.

Speaker 1 I like didn't know that the Knicks sucked. And so

Speaker 2 you were like, wait, but we're New York. That's really bad.

Speaker 1 No, literally. I said, that's why it's so embarrassing.
I was like, wait, but we're New York. Like,

Speaker 1 we've been bad for how many years? And he was like, like, 50.

Speaker 2 And I was like,

Speaker 2 oh my God, it's my empire.

Speaker 2 Like, showing up. And it's funny because my friend was like, oh, now you guys are showing up.
Well, Timothy Shame, he's been a fan.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he went to Indianapolis.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Him, Michael Che, Ben Stiller.
I feel like they all got in a, they did like a boys trip.

Speaker 1 And like, I will, I'm going to be biased for like a small quick second living in New York. Okay.

Speaker 1 When you're at a sporting event that is based in New York,

Speaker 1 I'm sorry. I've been at other sporting events in different cities.
New York fans are different. It's just different.
It's a different electricity. It's a different feeling.

Speaker 1 Like, remember that one time when we were at the U.S. Open and who was like about, who was about to win?

Speaker 1 It was like a young girl. Was it Kooka?

Speaker 1 It might have been. Yeah.
Was it, maybe, was it like her first U.S. Open she was about to win? Something.

Speaker 2 I forget.

Speaker 1 It may be. But I just remember like the whole place cheering for this like young girl and just being like, that's New York City.
You know, like, I just love a New York fan.

Speaker 2 We love a chant.

Speaker 2 We love to be passionate and we love to trash talk.

Speaker 2 We love a storyline. New York loves a come up story, a comeback.
We love that shit.

Speaker 1 The Yankees have Benny Hanna in the stadium.

Speaker 2 Anyone else can confirm. And I found other states because I know you have beef with Oklahoma and the air conditioning.
You'll never live that down.

Speaker 2 Sometimes sports in other states is better because it's all they have going on. Like when I went to Wisconsin,

Speaker 2 they were obsessed with the University of Wisconsin because there's only so many teams.

Speaker 1 Like when you go to Texas, like high school football is like their religion. Exactly.

Speaker 2 So like, yeah, Wisconsin, when there was a Wisconsin football game, the entire state drove down.

Speaker 1 New York is actually so greedy. We like have three of everything.
We have a lot of people. Sorry, we want more.

Speaker 2 Also, during the next game, people are like, oh, sorry, like, I have dinner tonight. Like, there's shit going on.

Speaker 2 Like, I'm, I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
I'm sorry. I'm listening.

Speaker 1 I have a reservation. Yeah.
I have a reservation.

Speaker 2 I gotta go. I'm going to a Broadway play.
By the way,

Speaker 2 I'm going to try to go to a Broadway play.

Speaker 1 Just in your lifetime.

Speaker 2 Where are we going with that? This is so so funny because I've been like going out to West Hampton now when I can. And I'm like, next time I'm in New York, I'm going to see you abroad.
Timeless!

Speaker 1 You're being a tourist in your own space.

Speaker 2 I'm saying, I go, I'm going back to the city on Wednesday. I'm going to try to see Sunset Boulevard with Nicole Schluscher.

Speaker 1 Wait, do you know something that I do behind your back that I don't think I've ever told you?

Speaker 2 Just the way you worded that.

Speaker 2 You know what I do behind your back?

Speaker 1 I do something behind your back where, like, obviously, like, when I'm places without you, like, I bring, I find place, I find spaces where I can bring you up.

Speaker 1 You know, like, I find, I find small caveats in conversation where I can bring up my friend.

Speaker 2 I love how you're sitting there being like, and where is a good entry point?

Speaker 1 But, like, a lot of times, people will bring you up to me. And, like, I don't know who I'm talking to, and I don't know if they've ever heard of Giggly Squads.

Speaker 1 So, I'll say, sometimes I'll say, like, my best friend who I have a podcast with, or sometimes I'll say,

Speaker 1 right. Or I'll say, like, oh, my co-host where I do this thing with her, but she's also my best friend.
Like, so I introduce you in different ways.

Speaker 1 But I don't think that you know that I

Speaker 1 talk about you being from New York as if I grew up in that, in that townhome with you.

Speaker 1 Like I'll make an emphasis and a point to tell people that you were born and raised in Brooklyn because it's important to me.

Speaker 2 Because it makes, look, I support everyone, move to the city. I love it.
And if you can survive, you're a New Yorker. I accept you.
Do I think I'm better than you? Yes. Do I say that out loud? No.

Speaker 2 But I also, what's funny is I was thinking about that, that I,

Speaker 2 I know you grew up in Albany, but you didn't.

Speaker 2 You didn't. Your ancestors were Brooklyn.

Speaker 1 I mean, at some point, I'm sure. But I actually just hit my 10 years.

Speaker 1 I know. And people like, I feel like talk about it, but like, not really.

Speaker 1 But I remember moving to New York and thinking, wow, I wonder if I'm going to hit my 10 year, like if I'm going to still be here, because that's when you become an official New Yorker.

Speaker 2 How many times did you consider moving back home?

Speaker 1 Never, not once.

Speaker 2 And that's why you made it.

Speaker 1 Because you had no plan B. Do you want to know what I think made me succeed? My biggest fear was having to move back home.

Speaker 1 My biggest fear was having to call my mom and being like, I can't afford rent. I can't afford it here.
Like, I can't do anything. I got to come back.

Speaker 2 And I was like, I can't.

Speaker 1 I can't.

Speaker 2 It's so funny because then, as a New Yorker, all you want to do is like

Speaker 2 escape the city. Go to Hampton.

Speaker 2 I'm like, it's so fucking

Speaker 2 concrete.

Speaker 1 It's so cliche.

Speaker 1 I'm like, I have to get out for a minute. Anywho, okay.

Speaker 2 What's wrong? I have notes. I have notes.

Speaker 2 Can

Speaker 2 clapping.

Speaker 2 Okay. Did you festival? Like the festival, they have their like 19 minutes for this movie.
14 minutes. Oh,

Speaker 2 I don't know what to do with my hands while someone sings happy birthday for 30 seconds.

Speaker 2 What are you supposed to do during a 12-minute clapp-a-thon?

Speaker 1 It's like Paul Mezcow stood as he got a six-minute standing ovation. Six minutes? Get your steps in while you're at it.
I mean,

Speaker 2 six minutes. I won't even give a blowdrop for six minutes.

Speaker 1 Literally.

Speaker 2 Six minutes. I can't even run on the treadmill for six minutes.

Speaker 1 No, I'm not doing anything for six minutes.

Speaker 2 I feel like I don't know who started it, but they can't get out of it. I'll tell you one thing.
What if you're like one of the organizers that's like, how does it end?

Speaker 2 Such a good question. Like, it's basically like people don't want...
That's honestly. No, thank you.

Speaker 1 No, it's like, how does it end? Because here's the thing. If you're getting a time slot that's Saturday morning, people are up.
They're peppy.

Speaker 1 they're cheery if you're getting you're getting the last time slot they're tired so

Speaker 2 you might only get a four minute also do they hire clappers we need good press what if the movie sucks they just get four minutes

Speaker 2 yeah um great observation thank you also the amas are happening right now what are those again american music awards i've honestly lost track award shows i i have like i lose track um but the the music people do, they are more experimental with their fashion, which I like.

Speaker 1 Is it in New York?

Speaker 2 No, I think it's in L.A. Oh, okay.
Because I still see the L.A. Oh!

Speaker 2 I have a story.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 2 I was in a random place,

Speaker 2 and there were people there. Oh, no.
First problem.

Speaker 2 So I left.

Speaker 2 I was like, why did no one tell me this? So this girl comes up to me, and she's like, oh my God, you know Jojo.

Speaker 2 Now,

Speaker 2 this was first of all the morning. Second of all.

Speaker 1 My assistant?

Speaker 2 Okay. No, I'm trying to be smooth.
Yeah. And I'm in conversation and I'm warm and I'm like, yes, yes, yes.
When she says Jojo, I think

Speaker 2 the singer.

Speaker 1 I went seewa.

Speaker 2 It could have been Jojo, see what, but I know, like, JoJo the singer. Do I know her? No.
Have we DM'd? Yes. Am I obsessed with her? Yes.
Jojo's everything. So I go, yeah, I know Jojo.

Speaker 2 Because this is just out of nowhere. Like, and this was like, it was actually at like a women's health thing.
So she was in the industry. Okay.
So I was like, yeah, I know Jojo. Yeah.

Speaker 2 She comments on my photo once.

Speaker 2 And she was like, no. Did she? I think she commented on my photo before.
And I'm like, yes. She was at the book festival.
Like, we almost saw her at the book festival. Jojo? Almost.
A singer, yes.

Speaker 2 So I love her. And I was like, yes, Jojo, yes.
And she's like, like, no, like, don't you love her? And I'm like, I love her. She's like the voice of our generation, honestly.

Speaker 1 Iconic.

Speaker 2 And she's like, yeah, haha. And then we keep talking.
And she's like,

Speaker 2 yeah, it's so crazy. You know JoJo.
And I'm like, no. And she goes, and like,

Speaker 2 I don't even know how she got the job with Paige.

Speaker 2 So I'm sitting there going, I just told this girl I think Jojo. is the voice of our generation and she smiled and said yeah

Speaker 1 no i'm dead so then i go, oh, Josephine.

Speaker 2 And she goes, that's so funny. You guys call her Josephine.
I'm like, well, Paige is like fancy like that. Like, she likes Josephine better, probably.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Talk about millennial Gen Z gap.

Speaker 1 My assistant's name is Josephine. In my phone, she's JoJo because it's like.
She put that in. I think so.
Yeah. All of her friends call her Jojo.

Speaker 1 I just like, I'm, when I first met her, because I met her years ago, I met her as Josephine, and she never said, like, you can call me JoJo.

Speaker 1 But then, like, now that she works for me again, I think she might have said, like, everyone calls me Jojo, but Thanksgiving, you refuse to call her what she wants to be called.

Speaker 1 You're Josephine. Do you want to know what? I think her name is so.

Speaker 2 Beautiful.

Speaker 1 I'm like, but your name is so beautiful. And I never hear it.
Like, I never hear someone named Josephine.

Speaker 2 I feel like she'd be cute as Joey, too.

Speaker 1 She's adorable.

Speaker 1 The girl, the woman, she's a woman. The woman takes ballet classes on Wednesday nights.
Like she's just, she's so aesthetic. She's so cool.
Like she keeps me, I'm like, does Gen Z think this is cool?

Speaker 1 And she keeps me like up to date.

Speaker 2 But I literally, to this girl's face, was like, JoJo's the voice of our generation. And she was like, yeah, we can do that.

Speaker 2 And I didn't even like, I pretended the whole time I knew which JoJo she was talking about.

Speaker 2 So anyway, shout out to Josephine.

Speaker 2 Didn't know you go by other aliases and they got me.

Speaker 1 No, she's so cute. Honestly, all we do over here is like play dress up and pretend.
Like, we had to go to a real meeting one day, and I was like, Josephine, like, come with me.

Speaker 1 And she showed up, and I go, This is literally the devil wears Prada. We wear sweats all day.
Like, Josephine comes over in her literal pajamas. Yes.
And I was like, we're cause playing.

Speaker 1 She showed up in like the cutest outfit. And that's all I really want from my assistant.

Speaker 2 No, she's killing it.

Speaker 2 Shout out, Jojo.

Speaker 1 Like, I just want you to show up and look adorable.

Speaker 2 Hot take.

Speaker 2 We, some pop culture question for you. Did you see Jessica Beale's interview about Justin Timberlake?

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 no,

Speaker 1 but proceed because I think I might say something after.

Speaker 2 She basically was like, I love him so much. He's like my best friend.
He's like my chosen sister.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 1 Not how I ever want to think of my man.

Speaker 1 That's weird, right? I'm going to say something.

Speaker 2 It's giving lavender marriage.

Speaker 1 I think so.

Speaker 1 Because if you go back to seventh heaven,

Speaker 1 if you take it all the way back, there were strong lesbian vibes.

Speaker 2 Oh, see, I was calling Justin Timberlake gay.

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 I think it might be her.

Speaker 2 Wow.

Speaker 1 I think it might be her because I think this man has gotten caught maybe one or two times. Too many times.

Speaker 1 Too many times either embarrassing embarrassing her with another woman or just like embarrassing her in general. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That I can't, I can't think that

Speaker 2 if I was Justin Niberlake and she called me her sister. Her chosen sister,

Speaker 2 I'd be like, yo, we need to rebrand.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Chosen sister, at least.

Speaker 2 And not brother. No, not no.

Speaker 2 Just say you're not fucking.

Speaker 1 Well, that's what it is.

Speaker 1 Like, it's also like how many people are just in relationships because they're such public figures that they're like, I don't want to blow up my life right now and like have to deal with this like massive divorce or all these like press.

Speaker 1 Like, let's just chill and you do your own thing and I'll do my own thing and like work out.

Speaker 2 I'm not sure each other.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I like the amount of people that are probably in open relationships or separated and we just like don't know.

Speaker 1 Or are lesbians. I don't know.
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Speaker 1 Straight men should get off Instagram.

Speaker 2 They should get off for sure. The only photo you should have is from like 2017, blurry, no caption.

Speaker 2 And you don't are a man and

Speaker 1 you have a hankering for posting on the internet for Instagram. I think you can do a post once every two months.

Speaker 2 I know I'm coming for people right now, but I don't care.

Speaker 2 As a man, if you're going through your phone to put together an aesthetic photo dump and you're like, oh, I just have a photo of my face there, so I need a photo of like food here.

Speaker 1 I don't want my future man to know that you can favorite photos.

Speaker 2 I don't want my future man to know that you can have a carousel on Instagram.

Speaker 1 Des listening to this is like,

Speaker 1 Wait, have you seen the trend on TikTok where it's like, this is my current boyfriend?

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 2 I love that. Have you seen the funniest trend is happening right now? Have you seen men calling their guy friends to say goodnight?

Speaker 1 Good night. Okay.
Do you want to know what? This is a learning experience. This is bigger than a trend that people are not picking up on.

Speaker 2 Deep psychology.

Speaker 1 If you called any one of your girlfriends and said, hey, I just wanted to call you and like say goodnight. And like, I love you and I miss you.
Every single one would be like, oh,

Speaker 1 and I love you and how are you and like what's going on and we need to connect and like all of this the men immediately start laughing or they get like angry.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Like what are you talking about? Don't ever call.
What are you doing? Well, this is the thing. It is funny because it's so random and the guys being like, just want to call, say goodnight.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 And I'm like, that's weird. But then the reaction is so over the top that I'm like, no, that's weirder.
Cause guys will be like, good night. What the fuck does that mean? Good night.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 He's like, yeah, bro, I'm going to bed. I want to say good night.

Speaker 1 And he's like, they can't even connect with their own gender.

Speaker 1 How can we trust them on anything?

Speaker 1 They can't, like, honestly, I saw a Jane Fonda video like years ago, and I think about it all the time where she literally said, like, women sit and they face each other and they talk to each other.

Speaker 1 And men are, they sit next to each other. They never like really.

Speaker 1 look at each other and like ask them how they're doing.

Speaker 2 That's why I take my man every couple hours. I take his head and I make him hold eye contact with me.
I said, we're holding, we're holding, we're holding. It's important.
It's important.

Speaker 1 It's important.

Speaker 2 They have to understand humanity and love.

Speaker 1 No, they really do. Have you ever like dated a guy?

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 1 I don't recommend it. I'm super against it.

Speaker 1 But have you ever dated a guy and like you start obviously having sex with them and then after a couple of months it gets more like emotional or like you fall more in love with them or whatever and then you start having sex and you're making eye contact

Speaker 1 like whilst you have sex and like you it used to be like he'd whisper something dirty in your ear but now he's looking at you and he's saying it like that it's like men that's the only time men do that like how many times have we looked at each other and said like the most

Speaker 1 deep in our soul like things that we feel mainly me

Speaker 2 with me and you like literally the first thing i say to you on the phone will be like the most unhinged

Speaker 1 thing because that's called but so like it's so it's like where are they letting that out i'm worried for them but also this have you seen this whole thing with like the lonely like the men are lonely and it's like yeah

Speaker 1 you know obvious like what it's our society and blah blah blah and it's just like our society we live in a patriarchy that's yeah like you guys did that to you you guys set this up and now we're just getting more yeah like we're not helping you.

Speaker 2 Wait, do you ever feel like when people ask like

Speaker 2 about me or when I'm with people, they ask about you? We feel like we're in a band. Yeah, like I like I try to explain it.
I'm like, we're in a band.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and like, yeah, sometimes I do some solo stuff, but we really come back to giggly squad.

Speaker 1 Like, sometimes I forget that we performed at Radio City, and I'll hear someone say, like, she performed at Radio City, and I'll literally be like, who?

Speaker 1 I forget, like, I perform, but I don't think when I'm with the gigglers, I'm like, I don't think of it as a performance, even though it is.

Speaker 1 I think of it as, like, are my beta bloggers going to work yes or no?

Speaker 2 This is more of a science experiment for all of us.

Speaker 2 Final thing about men, we're not going to talk about it for the rest of the time.

Speaker 2 We didn't talk about the Justin Vogue cover.

Speaker 1 I know we didn't. Because Haley's

Speaker 2 dear, dear, dear, dear, dear friend of the world. A dear, dear friend.
Who can actually do no wrong?

Speaker 1 A friend of the pod.

Speaker 2 That's true. A friend of the pod and a close friend to my life.

Speaker 2 Godmother to my future children. No, Haley's.
Yeah. Haley's the shit.
I think that Justin's a little too loosey-goosey online right now.

Speaker 1 I think that he

Speaker 2 is going through something.

Speaker 1 I think that he said it thinking like, oh,

Speaker 1 this is gonna sound good because I'm like correcting I've been proven wrong. I'm correcting myself.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I think people are really like come down on her every time. Like, oh my God, why don't you just leave? Like, how could you, like, your husband doesn't love you and blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 2 That's not it.

Speaker 1 Where it's just like things get like so nitpicked about Haley in general, everything about her. I don't, I really, like, I don't know how she does it sometimes.

Speaker 1 But like, if I had a nickel, that's why I have a career.

Speaker 2 Every guy that said you wouldn't make it.

Speaker 1 Yeah. If I had a fucking nickel.
So why women are acting and so mad at her, like they haven't experienced that at least five times than their damn selves?

Speaker 1 Like, how about relate to her and be like, I feel bad for her. Instead of being like, you're stupid.

Speaker 2 Fuck are people mean to her? It's I don't get it. But I have a question.

Speaker 2 Because I actually, I've never been in a serious relationship with a guy who didn't like believe in me.

Speaker 1 Really?

Speaker 2 Did you? Just do you tell them what your dream is and then when you least expect it, they turn it on you? Yes, it's not like

Speaker 1 in the moment where you're like, oh, yeah, you want to accomplish this, and they're like,

Speaker 1 you stupid bitch.

Speaker 2 In a heated fight, they're like,

Speaker 1 I once had a boyfriend who was cheating on me with a girl who now I can't even remember what her job was, but she did like

Speaker 1 hosting, like random hosting of things, like whatever. She was a couple years older than me, and he would cheat on me with her.
And I remember, like, finding out about it.

Speaker 1 And I remember feeling really insecure because I was like, oh my God, she's like so much more accomplished than I am. And yeah, why wouldn't he want her over me? And blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 1 And I remember him saying, like, you'll never be, you'll never accomplish like what she's accomplished. Now I'm like, I don't even remember what her job was.
Yeah. But I think about it all the time.

Speaker 2 Then that's just like so toxic. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And it comes down to like my thing with relationships is like we literally are a team and like if you're on my team we're fucking winning together my problem was i would date guys that i was like i want more from you like i want you to be as motivated as me kind of thing and that's hard to find as well and i think it's actually getting even harder to find because

Speaker 1 like girls are j right up there with men in like the workforce and so it's hard to find

Speaker 2 and i'm fine if like i just want them to like have a dream that they're chasing. Like, I've dated guys who are successful, but they, like, don't want to be.

Speaker 1 They have no passion.

Speaker 2 They have no passion. Like, yeah.
Talk to me when you have a business that you're passionate about.

Speaker 1 And then you'll know what it takes to run a business. No, you want, you want to be with someone that like genuinely is like striving for more and like wants to accomplish more.

Speaker 2 Well, because.

Speaker 2 You get exhausted like chasing your own dreams. Like it is actually so fun to root for someone else's dreams sometimes.
Totally. Like to see like Des's like clip like blow up.

Speaker 2 I'm literally like, it is a feeling that's like you're so proud and he's also like that's part of you. So you just feel like and you don't have to do anything and you're just like, I'm proud of you.

Speaker 1 No, Hannah.

Speaker 1 You know how like the best feeling ever is like when your boyfriend wakes up in the morning or your husband or whatever and they have to leave the bed and go do something and you don't have to?

Speaker 1 That's like my favorite thing in the world. I'm like, oh, go be a man.
Like, yeah, bring home a fucking cow for us. Like, you know, like, I don't know.

Speaker 1 I can't imagine the feeling it must feel for you when you go. Well, you're not really allowed to go see Des Do Standup.

Speaker 1 But when he has to go do stand-up and you don't.

Speaker 2 Well, that happens a lot when I come back from touring and during the week he's at the comedy cellar and he's like getting dressed at 10 p.m. And I'm in my like snuggliest snuggle moment.

Speaker 2 And I'm like, go make $20 baby.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Wait, Daphne just sniffed my foot and then went like this.

Speaker 2 Wait, did she gag? She gagged.

Speaker 1 It's like, okay, literally chill out. I was wearing ballet flats.

Speaker 2 Oh, my God. Your ballet flats have been through shit.

Speaker 2 Oh, my gosh.

Speaker 2 Okay, what else? One more thing about my mental health. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Tell me if you think this is going to be. Tell me if I'm wrong.

Speaker 1 And tell me if I'm crazy or not.

Speaker 2 Tell me how crazy.

Speaker 2 Wait, oh girl, that is.

Speaker 2 Tell me.

Speaker 2 Who under 10?

Speaker 1 I'm going to run something by you. And you tell me what you think.

Speaker 2 From emergency to call the police. Where are we at?

Speaker 2 I do say Des has been watching the Mets a lot, which like go Mets, but like the games are like five hours. And I was like, I need to get a hobby.

Speaker 1 Wait, I was just going to say, I forgot baseball was even on. Oh, my God.
What month even is?

Speaker 2 Oh, God. But also, baseball lasts like forever.

Speaker 2 Forever.

Speaker 2 I bought on Etsy a punch needling kit. Yes.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 And it's not even like real crocheting or anything. You just like punch a thing.

Speaker 1 That actually sounds really enjoyable.

Speaker 2 It's kind of therapeutic because you're kind of stabbing something.

Speaker 1 I freaking bet.

Speaker 2 So, and he was like, okay, Grandma, what are you doing? Freaking knitting? And I was like, first of all, I have mental health problems.

Speaker 1 God forbid a girl has a hobby.

Speaker 2 God forbid I have a hobby. And I haven't even like showed it off on Instagram because I'm practicing doing things not for other people's

Speaker 2 opinion.

Speaker 2 Did I bring it up on pod? Yes.

Speaker 1 But that's just different. This is a safe space.

Speaker 2 This is a safe space. This is just me like telling you what I did today.
So I've started and I'm doing a flower one. So I've started punch needling.

Speaker 1 Wait, I'm obsessed. And like, what are they, though? What are you punch needling?

Speaker 2 It's like into like kind of a paper and it comes out like a whole thing.

Speaker 1 And then where do you put the paper?

Speaker 2 Well then it becomes like a like a painting. Like it has a wood frame.
Oh god. I can decorate my apartment with it.

Speaker 1 Okay, so what are you punching over there?

Speaker 2 I'm punching.

Speaker 2 It's actually like so hard to explain. I'm punching yarn into this paper.

Speaker 1 I know, but what's the thing? It's a floral arrangement. Okay, got it.
I thought you were going to say it was like something for the mats.

Speaker 1 You do it while he watches the Mets. Yeah.
Yeah, you're 105.

Speaker 1 Pick up cocaine. I mean,

Speaker 1 it's getting scary over there. It's getting really scary over there.

Speaker 2 No, we were hanging out with people during the day yesterday and they were like, what are you going to do tonight? And I was like, I'm so pumped up. I'm starting green.
I'm starting the green flower.

Speaker 2 I just finished the yellow petals.

Speaker 1 It's actually funny. I was thinking, like, for whatever reason, I used to like be obsessed with Memorial Day weekend.
Like it was my favorite weekend ever.

Speaker 2 Oh my gosh. I didn't even know like when it was.

Speaker 1 Are you kidding? I'm so bad at like high school and college and like even like post-college like going away somewhere for Memorial Day weekend. And this year I was just like,

Speaker 1 I can't wait to do nothing and just chill. And this was like the first weekend I feel like I didn't get drunk.

Speaker 2 I woke up this morning sending aggressive emails to people and then being told it's a holiday. Yeah.
And I was like, oh, my God, sorry. Yeah.
Sorry.

Speaker 2 Sorry about that. Have you seen the AI baby clips going around?

Speaker 1 I love them.

Speaker 2 They're so

Speaker 2 cute.

Speaker 1 They're so funny.

Speaker 2 They're so cute.

Speaker 1 Talking babies, like, I love, like, I like when real babies like say swear words.

Speaker 2 Yes. But have you seen the ones of us? Yeah, yeah.
Okay.

Speaker 1 No, I love them.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 And they're wearing our outfits. I know.

Speaker 1 I don't know if they look exactly like us. Like, I actually.

Speaker 2 I do just say we were. They were.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I think the guy was. And I'm not body shaming.
I'm not body. I'm not baby shaming.

Speaker 1 No, we're not baby shaming.

Speaker 2 We're not baby shaming, but like I was, I was cuter.

Speaker 1 100%.

Speaker 1 Um, oh my god, wait. I have this written down because I saw a TikTok and one last thing about men.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And my mom used to give me this advice too. Well, she actually used to give me this advice when she would talk about like having children.

Speaker 1 And she would say, like, if you have low expectations for your children, that's what you'll get. And if you have high expectations for your children, that's what you'll get.

Speaker 1 Which honestly now sounds extremely manipulative. But anyways, I digress.

Speaker 1 But there was this TikTok and it was this girl and she was saying like when you start dating a guy, like

Speaker 1 it's more kind of like a formula. Like if you are one of those girls where you're like, all I want is a boyfriend and I'm like really going to try and get this guy to like be my boyfriend.

Speaker 1 And you do all of this stuff in the beginning. Like you're cooking him dinner.

Speaker 1 You're doing his laundry. Like you're doing all of this stuff.
Like

Speaker 1 men and women are so different. That is not going to make a man want to like

Speaker 1 reciprocate all of that for you. That just makes them lazier.

Speaker 2 And now you, that's the standard.

Speaker 1 And now that's the standard.

Speaker 2 You're being weird.

Speaker 1 You have set that standard. So it's almost like when you first start dating someone, you do nothing, but only as the woman.

Speaker 2 Wait, that's what I've been doing accidentally just because I like have ADHD and I can't do laundry.

Speaker 2 But it's the truth is, is if a guy's going to be with you because you're doing his laundry, like that's not the win you want it to be. No.
That's not the W you want it to be.

Speaker 1 And so go out there, ladies, and stay lazy.

Speaker 2 Don't do shit. Don't do that.

Speaker 2 I would argue sometimes, though, little cute things that, like, I want Des to do, if I do it for him, it like subconsciously trains him.

Speaker 2 Like an example. An example.
This is like little things. And by the way, I never cook, but like

Speaker 2 last summer, I started to get like tomatoes. This is making me sound like someone I'm not.

Speaker 1 Like, I don't, this is like I did this one. Okay, you're crocheting.
You have a garden now.

Speaker 2 I didn't know about.

Speaker 2 When did you get a garden? I got tomatoes once from

Speaker 2 the market,

Speaker 2 the farmer's market. And I cut him up because i'm italian and i got basil and i got some mozzarella and i put some balsamic and some olive oil and i was like i'm

Speaker 2 martha stewart yeah and he ate it and it was like cute and then today he got tomatoes and he was it was like i was hungry for dinner but we were waiting for it to come because we were uber eatsing obviously

Speaker 2 And he was like, let me make some tomatoes for us. And he cut it up.
And he was like, sorry, I don't have mozzarella. And I was like, oh, my God, he learned.
So he felt like.

Speaker 2 Literally, yeah, he failed.

Speaker 1 He failed. So he did it, but not as good as you.

Speaker 2 So we're divorcing.

Speaker 2 That's a story. And I go, where the fuck's the mozzarella? And I flipped it.
But sometimes it's like little, it's more love language stuff, not like, you don't work for him. No.

Speaker 2 You're not his fucking employee.

Speaker 1 No, well, and like all I see is like, oh my God, when you get married, like men don't share the same mental load.

Speaker 2 So it's like, okay, if you don't share the same mental load, then we have to share like the physical load of like, I'm not for hire like someone told me when a guy comes over you should have cookies baking in the oven because he'll associate like you with that smell and I'm like if that's what we have to you got that from the movie Clueless.

Speaker 2 I guess they got

Speaker 2 if that's what you have to do to trick a guy to want to be with you. I don't think he's the one.

Speaker 1 I have a vagina.

Speaker 2 I have a vagina.

Speaker 2 You guys, you have a vagina. Also, it is giving job interview where like when you're giving a job interview and you don't need that job, they can smell it on you.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Literally go into every date where it's like, I do not want to be with you. And

Speaker 2 I might choose to, but I don't know. And that's the vibe.
That's the vibe. You don't work for him.
He's interviewing you and you're the boss.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he works for you.

Speaker 2 No, he literally works for you. That's the mentality.

Speaker 1 He's your assistant.

Speaker 2 He's your assistant.

Speaker 2 Final question.

Speaker 2 What do you feel about neck scarves?

Speaker 2 Throwing a neck scarf on?

Speaker 1 You know, I don't hate it.

Speaker 2 Is it like too waspy?

Speaker 2 Like, too giving like New Hampshire.

Speaker 1 I think it has to be the correct outfit. I actually think you have to do it with like not that preppy of an outfit.

Speaker 2 True. True.
That's...

Speaker 1 Wow, that was really good. I think it has to be something, like, you know how people say, like, put an outfit on and then a pair of shoes that don't go.
And, like, that makes it funky.

Speaker 1 It's kind of like put it with an outfit that, like, it doesn't really. Like, jeans in a t-shirt.

Speaker 2 But I'll wear ties all the time, but I feel like a scarf, people will be like, she's trying too hard. Like a scarf is like trying to be fashionable.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I feel like

Speaker 1 you could so do one in the Hamptons and try it out.

Speaker 2 I feel like maybe when I'm older and wiser. Okay.
Because there'll be like a story behind it. Okay.

Speaker 1 There will be some lore.

Speaker 2 Yeah. I mean, I'll make up a story.
Okay.

Speaker 2 You guys, thank you for giggling with us.

Speaker 2 And check out our new episode of Hannah and Page Try New Things. We went thrift shopping.

Speaker 2 If you haven't caught up, we've already played baseball, we've gone to Salem, we've done witchcraft, and witchcraft and wizardry. And wizardry, right? And we did cat therapy.

Speaker 2 And we have merch up from the tour

Speaker 2 that we weren't selling online and now we're selling. And we have some really classic giggly shirts that we added too.
So shout out to that. And yeah, thanks for giggling with us.

Speaker 2 Bye.

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