Giggling about maternity leave, method acting, and brain farts
Hannah is starting an anti-smoking campaign and Paige is in her motherhood era.
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Speaker 1 So, I recently had one of those moments where I stood in front of my closet and I said, I have nothing to wear while surrounded by hundreds of things I never touch.
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Speaker 3 Sup, gigglers.
Speaker 2 Gary, fix your Wi-Fi.
Speaker 3 Manifest that shit.
Speaker 1 We can't be managed.
Speaker 2 I mean, the day just got away from
Speaker 3 Okay, I have to make an apology.
Speaker 3 I literally was saying, what's up, my Met Gigglers? Obviously, it's the Giggly Gala. Instead of Met Giggler, I should have said...
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Sorry. So I just had contact.
I had a stroke.
Speaker 3 Sorry. I just...
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Sorry. I just got so scared.
When was the Met?
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I think it was last time. Have we not recorded recorded since? No.
No. The last time we spoke to the Gigglers was the morning of the Met.
Speaker 3 But, like, it's been so long that the Met's not even in the news cycle anymore. It feels like it was last year.
Speaker 1 I was just going to say, isn't our culture crazy? Like, that's.
Speaker 1 I'm like, that was two years ago.
Speaker 3 And that's why when you're ever down, remember that nothing matters and no one will remember, including yourself.
Speaker 1 No one cares.
Speaker 3 No one cares.
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No one cares. Okay, wait.
Actually, I do have one one thing to say about the Met Gala.
Speaker 3 But I do actually have a strong opinion about one thing.
Speaker 1 Let's circle back for like two seconds.
Speaker 3 What is your gripe?
Speaker 1 Not a gripe.
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This is so embarrassing to admit. The morning after the Met Gala, I'm in glam for something.
I can't even, it's literally was last year. How can I remember?
Speaker 1 And I'm talking to Mitchell and Taylor, and we're talking about like who we liked, who we didn't like. And I said, did you guys see Katy Perry? And they're like, oh my God, we didn't see Katy Perry.
Speaker 1 And I'm like, you have to see Katy Perry.
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So I showed them the picture and they're like, a fabulous, stunning, I can't believe I didn't see it. And I was like, the coverage was weird this year.
Like, it just randomly like shut up.
Speaker 1 We're having a whole conversation.
Speaker 1 About five hours later.
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I'm back home from my apartment. Literally, God knows what I was doing.
I can't for the life of me think of what it was but whatever
Speaker 1 it was an ai photo of katy perry that i complete that like the internet fell for it's like the second year in a row except best dressed best dressed
Speaker 3 wait katy perry keeps having moments that could get her out of a rut like this ai going viral also In the future, celebrities don't even have to go to the red carpet, save all the glam and styling, and just get an AI to do it.
Speaker 1 Well, it was actually scary. I was like, okay, so we can really actually just do everything from our home.
Speaker 3 Like,
Speaker 3 no one has to go anywhere.
Speaker 1 This was the best dress I saw all night.
Speaker 3 It wasn't even real. Well, Katy Perry also heard a song, You're Like an Indian Summer in the Middle of Winter.
Speaker 3 That's trending on TikTok.
Speaker 3 But she's mad. She thinks people are making fun of her, but we're not.
Speaker 1 I haven't listened to a Katy Perry song in like
Speaker 3 years. Everyone just has to know, if you're not watching this on YouTube, Paige just pulled out a face roller out of nowhere.
Speaker 3 Like the biggest face roller you've ever seen casually just pulled it out of who knows where and is rolling her face. See, when I talk, Paige does skincare.
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You take years off my life, and I literally am trying to reverse it at any chance I can get. Here's the thing.
I love when we record in person. I love the clips.
The energy is different.
Speaker 1 The pod is different.
Speaker 1 There are times times where we have to record virtually, which is crazy because this is all we used to do, which is so darn.
Speaker 3 Well, my mom said she actually likes when we record on Zoom because it reminds her of Instagram live days, which is so nostalgic and beautiful.
Speaker 1 Here's another reason why I like recording virtually.
Speaker 3 We're the Katie Berry.
Speaker 3 Can we AI us in the studio?
Speaker 1 I have all my things at home.
Speaker 1 Here's what we need to get a handle on, and we're going to do it.
Speaker 3 We are.
Speaker 1 We're going to get a handle on it this summer.
Speaker 3 By the way, if you don't know this, Paige has the biggest apartment in America.
Speaker 3 Somehow I convinced her to record the pod at my apartment.
Speaker 3 And I don't know how that happened, but I slid through.
Speaker 1 But we are, like, don't mind it, though. Yeah.
Speaker 3 Because it's like going to Europe.
Speaker 1
You come downtown. Yeah, no, it's honestly, I have to get out.
You know, I have to get out of of the house.
Speaker 1 We're going to figure out like our recording situation and the vibe and the aesthetic and all of that.
Speaker 3 But I like
Speaker 3 virtually
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because I have all my things here. Like, I made my coffee.
I have my Stanley. I have an ice roller.
Like, I
Speaker 1 put some road barrier cream on prior to this.
Speaker 3
You can put that in your rider when you come over. We could get Chris to do it.
Chris needs to work more.
Speaker 1 I'm going to stock your refrigerator with my stuff, I think.
Speaker 3 I'll just do an Instacart order. Okay, but actually, let me say:
Speaker 1 sorry, we don't need to get into these logistics.
Speaker 3 The housekeeping is unnecessary.
Speaker 3 The admin is too much for all the gigglers. It's too much.
Speaker 3 We're recording virtually because I'm recording it virtual.
Speaker 3 Well, that wasn't even funny.
Speaker 3 Again, can you tell them
Speaker 3 about what's going on? With what?
Speaker 3 You're like eggs. Yeah.
Speaker 1 Okay, that's why we're recording virtually because I just like, I couldn't, I couldn't think about putting pants on.
Speaker 3
We had it fully set up, though. 6 p.m.
Fully set up. You were coming to record.
Chris was all set up. Then you text me, I don't feel well.
So if I say something to you, that's illegal, right?
Speaker 3 Because it's a woman who's
Speaker 3 and her eggs.
Speaker 1 So it's considered like if you're like, no, you have to show up, it's like, okay, wow, so we don't give paid maternity leave.
Speaker 3 It's maternity abuse.
Speaker 3 Actually, literally. So Paige has been going around acting like she's pregnant and
Speaker 3 fully cosplaying a pregnant woman. She's sending me photos going, how cute do I look? Because she's slightly bloated after getting her eggs removed.
Speaker 3 When I say slightly bloated, I mean she looks like me after a first bite of a chicken sandwich.
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I literally knew you were going to say that. I knew you were going to text me back and be like, okay, cool, me when I wake up.
Like, what are you talking about?
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I'm so pregnant. I'm so bloated.
It's so cosmic energy that I froze my eggs on Mother's Day weekend.
Speaker 3 I was like, I'm, I felt maternal. That is adorable.
Speaker 1 If you want to know why I felt maternal, this is how I knew.
Speaker 1 Walking down the streets of New York City, I was like, if anyone steps to me right right now with my eggs just brewing, ready to be taken out, I'll fucking cut someone.
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You go, I am a mother. You're going on the subway and just being like, excuse me, can I sit? I'm pregnant.
I'm like,
Speaker 3 literally, no chivalry. Okay.
Speaker 1 Let me just talk about my egg freezing journey for a quick second because I did my
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retrieval this past weekend. I go, I went to first, let me say the company name, which I feel like I haven't even said, which I'm so stupid.
It's called Extend Fertility.
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It's on 57th Street if you live in New York City. My doctor's name was Dr.
Klein. He was amazing.
He literally,
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I felt smarter after being like around him. He just, every time he said good, good question to me, I was like, no, I'm a good student.
Okay, so on Wednesday.
Speaker 3 Oh, we also have to talk about meeting Anna Wintour. Oh my God.
Speaker 1 That was a year ago.
Speaker 3
I was getting your eggs out of the way. You're a muscle.
I'm getting my eggs out of of the way.
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I did my trigger shot Wednesday night. I went in for my egg retrieval on Friday morning.
It's literally like 20 minutes, which is just so crazy.
Speaker 3 Did you have any anxiety? Because, you know, like I have no anxiety.
Speaker 1 You have no anxiety.
Speaker 3 Like, you're like, okay, and like poking and crawling. And you get put under.
Speaker 1 And so everyone was like, oh my God, are you so nervous to get put under?
Speaker 1
I don't know why. Talk about being Dolulu.
I literally didn't think about it for a second. They're like, it feels like you had a two-hour nap.
I'm like, yeah, shoot me up.
Speaker 3 What are we waiting for?
Speaker 3 Let's go.
Speaker 1 I couldn't have been less nervous for that part.
Speaker 3
I was like, this is my favorite hobby. Because we just dropped the newest episode of Hannah Page Try New Things.
And we're starting aggressive with this because it's your Denver episode.
Speaker 1 Yeah.
Speaker 3 It's literally you
Speaker 3 and me trying to distract you all day from the inevitable. The universe.
Speaker 3 You were going to have a panic attack. and the universe was gonna make sure it happened no matter what you did no matter how much IVs or pet pet therapy we did um and it shows
Speaker 3 cameras go down and then it shows us the morning after but cameras went the far down but um it's crazy seeing you in that headspace and then talking to you now like who is that girl yeah I wasn't nervous at all
Speaker 1 I don't know if it's a combination of like you're not in a hospital doing a procedure like you're you're in a doctor's office, but it's like you know, whatever.
Speaker 1 So, I, my mom came down with me. They retrieved a total of 28 eggs, and then they call you like the more next morning to see how many matured.
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So, they took out 28. I only had 13 survive.
So, I have 13 for a moment.
Speaker 3 Wait, how do they die?
Speaker 1 They really
Speaker 1 don't mature. They're like
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no, thank you. It's so bad, actually.
Not to like, just to understand relatively. Yeah.
Is that like a good amount of eggs?
Speaker 1 A really good amount of eggs. I
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know I could choose to do another round if I want to, or I could like stick with that number. I haven't like fully decided.
If I do another round, I would do it in the fall.
Speaker 1 I need to like give my body a break.
Speaker 3 She's like, if I'm going to have a football team, I need more eggs.
Speaker 1 Well,
Speaker 1 obviously I'm I'm like asking chat GPT everything. I'm like, okay, is 13 eggs? Like, is that? And they're like, you know, you could get one child from that.
Speaker 1 You could possibly get, it's just like all the things. But the place I'm doing it at truly like answers every single question.
Speaker 1 I have my follow-up appointment this week to like ask all those questions. But I'm very proud of myself
Speaker 1 for
Speaker 1 like doing the whole process. The one thing I'll say about it, it's harder than you think it's going to be, and it's also way easier than you think it's going to be.
Speaker 1 That's what they say about motherhood in general yeah like every i underestimated how good i was gonna be at the shots like this i was most nervous for doing the shots to myself and that was like kind of a breeze what i underestimated was after the egg retrieval like i've been bloated now for like i'm on my fourth day my boobs are killing me and then i like remind myself i'm like okay my body went through like a trauma
Speaker 1 thing like experience i have to give myself some grace and just like rest and chill it feel after you get it done. It feels like you just have your period.
Speaker 1
Like you have like cramping, like you have your period. When you walk, you're just like very aware of your ovaries almost.
Like, God.
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I can't explain it. It's just like, you know, when you're like, your period's like about to drop and you're just like, oh yeah, I can like feel it.
That's how it feels.
Speaker 3 Like
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this is like a really long callback. The OG gigglers would get it.
How are your hormones?
Speaker 1 okay so obviously last week I'm like flying high I'm just
Speaker 1 being a woman is so empowering and
Speaker 1 she was in the best mood she was telling everyone like maybe I was lacking estrogen and now I'm at the perfect level I really I still believe that I think I'm low on estrogen at base level this week okay On the fourth day, which is tomorrow,
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Sunday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday. Tomorrow will be my fourth day post-surgery, is now when my hormones are about to drastically drop.
Oh, no. Because now I have it.
Speaker 1 I'm now it's a full week where I haven't been giving myself shots.
Speaker 3
So you're going to punch a wall. I'm definitely like a little bit emotional for me.
Okay.
Speaker 1 So like, okay, here's an example.
Speaker 1 Last night I was on TikTok and I'm just like scrolling and I kept getting people's weddings that like a parent died or like a grandparent died and like how they like how they, like, incorporate them into their wedding.
Speaker 3 No,
Speaker 3 no, how did I get on that?
Speaker 1 And I'm like, wait, why am I crying about Hannah's dead grandpa?
Speaker 3 I'm like,
Speaker 3 wait, my grandpa came through.
Speaker 3 Also, if anyone heard from what the psychic said is that, like, motherhood is a big thing for you. So, there's a lot of
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people who aren't going to be able to. I feel very like serendipitous that I did it over Mother's Day weekend.
I feel,
Speaker 1 I just feel like less, I truly do feel like less pressure. It's like, okay, and even if I only have one child,
Speaker 1 that is like what is meant for the world, you know?
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And I have them all. There are two follow-up questions.
I need to get in the weeds, but because you have PCOS,
Speaker 3 were you?
Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't even know if I do.
Speaker 3
Oh, wait, did I make that up? No. I've been literally telling everyone.
I like literally, like, pages, PCOS.
Speaker 3 you're the spokesperson of pcos now literally
Speaker 1 i did have one doctor tell me i have it then i've had another doctor tell me i don't which if i've learned anything about it from talking to the other girls it is like extremely hard to diagnose and the same thing happens to them i really don't think i have it
Speaker 1 um because i feel like they would have seen in all these ultrasounds like if i had any cysts yeah and my levels oh here was the other thing because remember i was like supposed to have to i I was going to have to go on birth control, like prior to doing the shots.
Speaker 3 Yes.
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They tested my blood and whatever, and they said my levels were normal as if I had had a period. So I could just start with the shots.
So I never had to do the birth control, which is weird, too.
Speaker 1 So I'm like, okay, so then why didn't I bleed?
Speaker 3 Very good. Maybe you've conned the system.
Speaker 1 The female body.
Speaker 3 No. Incredible.
Speaker 3 Incredible. And it's so incredible that male doctors were like, we're we're just not going to figure it out.
Speaker 1 Here's another thing I've learned. It's a lot more emotional than I thought.
Speaker 1 Like, once I had the retrieval, like, it did kind of hit me where I was like, oh my God, I'm making decisions for my life in 10 years.
Speaker 3 A man could never.
Speaker 1 A man could literally never.
Speaker 1 Then after, as I'm in like recovery, like I would say peak kind of like hurting and bloat was like two days. I think like my boobs being sensitive is like peak right now.
Speaker 1 I cannot, to all of the women who have had one child, two children, three, five,
Speaker 1 I don't know how they're doing it. I don't know how their bodies are recovering.
Speaker 1 The women that have to do multiple rounds of IVF, because essentially I've did like the first part of it, like they have to get the eggs out and then like do the embryos, get it put back inside of them.
Speaker 1 Like that's a whole different process.
Speaker 1 The women that you hear there where they're like, we did four rounds.
Speaker 3 How?
Speaker 1 How did their body? I don't know how the female body does it. And everything you feel like is just so tender.
Speaker 3 And you're like, I grow human life.
Speaker 1 Like, the fact that women aren't
Speaker 1 these, like, seen as these goddesses in society, I don't get it. Our bodies are capable of alien behavior.
Speaker 3 This is a matriarchy.
Speaker 1 It's crazy.
Speaker 3 And
Speaker 3 after all that.
Speaker 1 I'm sorry that I have a mason jar with my
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cold brew. This is so millennial.
I love this.
Speaker 3 No, you're so millennial Pinterest barn marriage.
Speaker 1 Look at the picture behind me. Millennial.
Speaker 3 And then you have a headband on. Is that millennial? Oh my God.
Speaker 1 I mean, probably at this point.
Speaker 3 Probably at this point. We can't help it, even though I identify as Gen Z.
Speaker 3 No, I'm so, so proud of you. And
Speaker 3 it is just like crazy. We're kind of growing up.
Speaker 1 No, it's crazy. And here's the other thing.
Speaker 1 The typical round for shots is like anywhere from 10 to 14. I only did seven days of shots because my body was just like moving faster than average.
Speaker 1 I'm like literally in no other situation in my life. I'm like, well, this is definitely a burst.
Speaker 1 I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 Oh my God.
Speaker 1 So that's the only reason that I'm like, if I decide to do another round in the fall,
Speaker 1 it really was just like a week out of my life to do those shots and now I'm just recovering.
Speaker 3 This segment is presented by Mattress Firm and ACAS Creative. I want to talk about sleep.
Speaker 1 Because this is basically a sleep podcast.
Speaker 3 The only thing we're specialists at is sleeping. Paige, what do you do to have the best sleep of your life?
Speaker 1 I do so many things before bed. Like
Speaker 1 I need hours before bed.
Speaker 1 I have so many self-care self-care things. My new thing is not sleeping with my phone physically in my bed, but on my nightside table.
Speaker 3 You used to fall asleep when we were roommates.
Speaker 3
Holding the phone. Like you'd be like, I'd like look at him.
You'd be like mid-yelling at your boyfriend.
Speaker 1 Like, I'm working on Chinese markets. You know, like I need to have my phone all the time.
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I do a lot of self-care things, but here's my number one thing. And it...
would not be possible without my mattress for a mattress. My adjustable base bed.
I love it.
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Look at me. My mattress for a mattress changed my life.
It saved my marriage.
Speaker 3 The one thing you should invest in in life is your mattress.
Speaker 1 My mattress for a mattress, I'm going to even go a step further and say that it may make me not get married. Because I'm like, in what world is someone coming in here?
Speaker 3 Because when you go to bed at night, you go, what do I need? Nothing else. This is perfect.
Speaker 1 Okay, I'm a side sleeper.
Speaker 3 Do you put a pillow in between your knees or you're not old enough yet?
Speaker 1 I'm not old enough yet.
Speaker 3
Give it a year. Give it a year.
You'll get there.
Speaker 1 And then sometimes I'm a back sleeper. But then, hey, I might go tummy time for a little bit.
Speaker 3 Do you want to know something chaotic? Yeah. I start on my tummy
Speaker 3 and I put one leg out.
Speaker 1 Yeah. You know what? In a four.
Speaker 3 Yes, when one leg is out like a chicken leg, you know it's going to be good night sleep.
Speaker 1 Like women do that more because they open up their hips. Yeah, it's something with our hips.
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I have a lot of trauma stored in my hips. That's for another time.
But then I'll eventually feel like a little uncomfy. So I go side and then I wake up on my back.
And that's a full turn.
Speaker 3 A full journey. A 360.
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And you can't catch me. I'm moving.
I'm grooving.
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360, if you will. One thing I did learn about being on tour is that I love my bed at home.
And I was taking her for granted. She has so many things that she's capable of doing.
Speaker 1 She could run the country. Like if more people had my mattress, I think there would be less chaos.
Speaker 3 I also think it's important with mattress firm you can go in and try them all oh and i did and go like take a day i actually returned one like i got one brought her home tried her out and said not for me i love that when i'm on tour honestly i'm so tired from traveling that i just pass out but like i wake up and i don't know where i am yeah and i feel like i would love my own i wish i was with my cat in my bed and butter really likes my mattress too
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Speaker 3 This is a perfect transition because you've been like, you're in your mother era, and you also posted on Instagram that you are a bridal influencer accidentally.
Speaker 3 Why do you think, look at this full interview. I'm Barbara Waltering you, but like, you have been wearing,
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like, why are you wearing the cutest bridal fits, but just like, it's kind of empowering, like, just because you want to. You're like, this is a good fit.
Froze my eggs. Um,
Speaker 1 you're like, I feel like, no, truly, nothing behind it other than like when it gets above the temperature of like 65 in New York. I'm like, we're all wearing white.
Speaker 3 Also, like, you got a good spray tan. We're wearing white.
Speaker 1 We're wearing like, it's winter is over. I've switched from black to white.
Speaker 3
Clutch my pearls. We're simple girls.
Ooh, that rhymed.
Speaker 3
So you wore one of your beautiful white outfits too. We got invited to a dinner.
Yeah. Conde nasty.
Speaker 1 Conde nast. Thank you.
Speaker 3 Thank you for having us, Mrs. Nast.
Speaker 3 You nasty little Nast.
Speaker 3 The new Fronts dinner,
Speaker 3 which we didn't know what it was, and it was at the New York Public Library.
Speaker 3
Yeah. Fun little story.
Which,
Speaker 3 what?
Speaker 1 Not to like keep on theme of like my wedding.
Speaker 3 I know what you're going to say.
Speaker 1 But like all my life, I'm like, I'm, I'm.
Speaker 1
Not all my life. Honestly, in the beginning of my life, I was like, I'm having a huge New York city wedding.
And in the past 10 years, I'm like, no, I'm getting married in Italy.
Speaker 1 I might be back to like, I'm having a massive New York City wedding. Now that's millennial, and I don't care.
Speaker 3 At the New York Public Library,
Speaker 3 which is is so funny because you can't read.
Speaker 1 But as a New York Times best-selling author, oh my God, Hannah, listen to what happened on Mother's Day weekend.
Speaker 1 I'm with my family, as one does, and my dad says the word irregardless.
Speaker 1
And I go, well, that's not a word. And him and my brother both gang up on me and they go, it absolutely is a word.
I've said irregardless. I'm like, doesn't matter how long you've said it.
Speaker 3 Even if it is a word, don't say that word.
Speaker 1 Don't say that word. I go, as a New York Times best-selling author,
Speaker 1 three weeks in a row?
Speaker 1
I know that that's not a word. And I honestly was going out there, going out on a limp.
It's not, it is a word, but it's not considered like proper English.
Speaker 3 It's a man-splaney word. It's like a word a man uses when he's running out of words and like wants to sound better than you.
Speaker 1 I was like, oh my God, I'm a road scholar.
Speaker 3
So we get to New York Public Library. Yeah.
Gorgeous, but like absorbing steps. I get dropped off right in front.
And I'm walking. Yo, Hannah, I almost,
Speaker 3 I didn't know where to go.
Speaker 1
I almost passed out on the stairs, and I kept trying to make jokes to everyone. Like, wow, a lot of stairs.
Like, I'm out of breath. And no one was like,
Speaker 1 I was like, oh, okay, you guys are all this in shape.
Speaker 3 Oh, okay, sorry.
Speaker 3 And everywhere you turn, there'd be more steps. But as I, when I first walked up, I didn't know where to go.
Speaker 3
And I look up and I see a girl who played on the tennis team with me at Wisconsin. And I'm like full glam.
Like full fancy dad.
Speaker 1 Like she's at the event?
Speaker 3 No, she just was standing outside.
Speaker 3
She lives in New York and was walking. Like New York is such a small.
So crazy.
Speaker 3 And
Speaker 1 here's another
Speaker 2 one more thing about the stairs.
Speaker 1 You know how you were walking up the stairs and there were like hot young men like on each step.
Speaker 1 I don't know like to like help you or they were like ushers or something as i'm walking up the steps i felt like i had to give a bit like each one
Speaker 3 and i don't know you've become like not to interact but i'm like anybody ever fall like no you've become the like creepy uncle at a party like yeah he's the waitress and is like
Speaker 3 we hated that
Speaker 3 well no we are at the point where male models are too young for us why are they all 22? Where's your facial hair?
Speaker 1
Oh my God. No, it's crazy.
It's crazy. Yeah, it's crazy going out in New York City situations and it be like, oh,
Speaker 1 I would be considered a cougar talking to that man.
Speaker 3
But this is the problem with me. I think I'm Gen Z.
When I say I think I know I'm Gen Z and I'm like fully delusional where like someone's talking to me and I'm like, they think I'm 25.
Speaker 3
And then every now and then someone would be like, you know, someone our age. And I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Wait, talk that that's so true.
Speaker 1 Or
Speaker 3 I look the same.
Speaker 1 Wait,
Speaker 1
here's another thing, another territory that, like, the girls aren't talking about. And I need to bring it up.
You say territory? Yeah. Territory.
Speaker 3 Territory? Give it to me. What's the territory?
Speaker 1 Are you ever in a situation where you're assuming that someone is
Speaker 1 not way older than you, but like older than you?
Speaker 1 And then you realize, and then you almost like offend them
Speaker 1 because they're like well we're like the same age and you're kind of like well
Speaker 1 i've seen it on purpose like because i'm like oh i like legitimately thought that like you wouldn't have remembered like wouldn't know what i'm talking about because like we're not the same age It's just, here's the thing.
Speaker 1 We've hit an age where it's murky.
Speaker 3
It's murky. I was about to say that.
It's like 32, 33, which is is us. It's murky.
You can pass as like 26, but you also, in a certain light, can pass later.
Speaker 3
And then I was meeting with someone today who's older, but like, I don't know how much older, but like, not that much older. And I was making fun of my husband.
I was like, he's old, he's tired.
Speaker 3 And she's like, okay.
Speaker 3
Okay, watch. How old is he? And I was like, 49.
And she was like, okay, don't call him tired.
Speaker 1 Yeah, see, yeah.
Speaker 3 See, he's like,
Speaker 3 no, not you.
Speaker 3
I was like, I was making fun of a man. You're perfect.
You, then I have to.
Speaker 3 This is, okay, this is where the age stuff also annoys me. I don't like when people tell me I look like I'm 26.
Speaker 3 Oh,
Speaker 3 I hate that.
Speaker 1 Here's the difference.
Speaker 3
I fucking love it. No, because that means I'm of the age where people think they're complimenting me by telling me I look like I'm 26.
Like, do I look young? No, I just am young.
Speaker 3 The Italian blood is strong, and the olive oil, as Jennifer Lopez would say, is keeping us young. However,
Speaker 3 as you know me, I love something that makes me look old. I love a gray.
Speaker 1 I've been trying.
Speaker 3
I love a wrinkle because it shows that I've seen some shit and I've been through some shit. And don't try me because I've seen you.
I'm like, I'm a survivor.
Speaker 1 I'm more vain than you are.
Speaker 3 100%.
Speaker 3 Like, you, okay. That was
Speaker 3 no, because you take care of yourself. Nothing in life is 100%.
Speaker 3 When you start fighting, oh, 72. No, like, you, you take care of yourself.
Speaker 3 Well, you're.
Speaker 1 But you're so good at, like, you don't even look.
Speaker 3 That's the thing.
Speaker 1 You don't even look in the mirror.
Speaker 3 If you don't look in the mirror, you have nothing to be upset about.
Speaker 1 Yeah, like, you rarely, I feel like,
Speaker 1 you're really good at not judging yourself.
Speaker 3
Physically. Yeah, physically.
Emotionally, it's not good.
Speaker 1 Okay, it's really bad.
Speaker 3 Well, you know what it is? It's like when I'm sitting and I'm in my thoughts, you know, fighting the imaginary fights, that's like you standing in front of the mirror and dissecting yourself.
Speaker 3 It's the same thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1 when I'm in a hard time, I immediately go to like, what can I change about my appearance?
Speaker 3 Yes, that's why you're doing skincare right now.
Speaker 1 Yeah, that's why I'm like, chat GPT. What's my glow up before Memorial Day weekend?
Speaker 3 Yes, you think external factors help your internal, which sometimes do.
Speaker 3 Wait, I'm feeling a mental health.
Speaker 3
I'm feeling a mental health, mama. Come on.
Let's.
Speaker 3 Okay.
Speaker 3 First of all, did you know that an octopus holds grudges?
Speaker 2 I love that.
Speaker 1 That's why they're an Italian delicacy.
Speaker 1 That's why you can have them fried. That's why you can also have them not fried.
Speaker 3 You can have them. Mediterranean salad.
Speaker 3
Olive oil, lemon, Peugeot, whatever you need. That was just a side note.
But anyway, as someone who deals with anxiety and depression, shout out. If you listen to this pod, you probably do too.
Speaker 3 It's just algorithmic. Sorry about that.
Speaker 3 I always have been trying to tell myself, like, do not believe all your thoughts, right? What are you looking for? Yeah.
Speaker 3 Are you looking for...
Speaker 1 I was trying to see if I had a charger, but I.
Speaker 1 You always know when I'm looking for something.
Speaker 1 And I do, and I didn't want to bend it.
Speaker 3 You're like, I'm looking for that eye cream. We're at the second phase of the speaker.
Speaker 3 She's like, what's my?
Speaker 3 Yeah, so the whole concept of like not believing your thoughts really helped me through a lot of things. But recently, I've actually been kind of forgot about it.
Speaker 3
You know, when you like forget something you learned. So I have been listening to my thoughts too much.
Yeah, I listened to my thoughts. And then people are like, they're not all real.
Speaker 3
But you're like, well, some of this. could be like me warning myself, like something's coming.
Like I need to attach to this thought and figure it out to make sure it's legit or not.
Speaker 3 But by that time, you're already spiraling. So what I learned is your subconscious thoughts are not real.
Speaker 3
And I love that you're like, oh, my God, I have to listen to my gut. That's not your subconscious thoughts.
If you have to think something, you will consciously think it and you will figure it out.
Speaker 3
But if you just get a thought arise out of nowhere, don't chase it. Don't analyze it.
And I was on some weird like Korra thread. Don't ask why I was in a dark place.
Speaker 3 And this guy said, it's healthy to like lay wow that's when I'm like that's when I'm deep in like I have some type of ailment when you're in Quora
Speaker 3 I'm like and if you pee and it's a different color and if your pussy is secreting what
Speaker 3 so this guy on Quora
Speaker 3 said and you can't even comment you can't even click on Quora anyway
Speaker 3 Who even has a Quora account anyway?
Speaker 3
No one's ever had a Quora account. But he basically said, when you have a thought and you're like, oh, I should latch on to this.
I should figure it out. That no, it's what the thought wants.
Speaker 3
Instead, label it. And he labels it a brain fart.
Now, that to me.
Speaker 1 That really speaks to you.
Speaker 3
That speaks to me because not only am I labeling it, but I'm making myself giggle. So I get a, let's say, I get a thought.
I'm going to give you guys an example.
Speaker 2 What's a good?
Speaker 3 I get a thought. Oh, my God.
Speaker 3 I'm going to embarrass myself
Speaker 3 playing tennis next weekend. I'm not going to do well.
Speaker 3 Now you have two things you could do. You could go into it and be like, oh yeah, what'll happen? How do I prevent myself from playing bad? And next thing you know, you're in deep.
Speaker 3 You're swimming with the sharks. Or I go, that was a subconscious weird thought.
Speaker 3
Instead of going, don't think that thought. Don't think it.
You're still thinking about it. Just go, brain fart, period.
Brain fart. Ew.
Speaker 3 Brain fart.
Speaker 3 Bye. Okay.
Speaker 1 This is so interesting because I saw a TikTok this week that I was like, I can't wait to say this to Hannah because it's all about like your inner voice to yourself.
Speaker 1 There was a TikTok and it was like, in your mind, scream your name.
Speaker 1 Now in your mind, whisper your name.
Speaker 1 And like, it's different.
Speaker 1 And it, did you do it?
Speaker 3 Yeah.
Speaker 1 Did it and then it and then the video was like, see how you can tell that voice what to do.
Speaker 1 Like you just have to be more conscious of that throughout the day like you just told your voice to like yell then whisper you can actually like tell them other thoughts yes like and i just thought that that was so yeah like you're in charge i feel like your your brain is basically like your own chat gbt that's like kind of gone rogue Like it has all the information on you and then it starts like spilling out.
Speaker 1 Yeah, should I go dive deeper into that? And it's like, I didn't ask you to.
Speaker 3 No, literally. Or it'll be like, do you remember this one memory when you were a kid and that was really upsetting to you? And you're like, why are you bringing that up? Why are you bringing that up?
Speaker 3 Speaking of like mental health, can we talk about Molly Mae?
Speaker 3 Oh.
Speaker 3
Molly. My sweet, sweet girl.
My sweet, sweet girl. So Molly Mae, second season came out.
I'm only one episode into this second season.
Speaker 3 She's going through it, which we love.
Speaker 1
She's like, absolutely going through it. She's like completely back with Tommy.
And it's such like this issue.
Speaker 1 Yeah, like on Instagram, they're like back.
Speaker 3 Oh, on Instagram right now. But like starting the second season, they're still like, honestly, you could just, she's just broken.
Speaker 1 It's kind of soft-launched. It's soft-launched it that like they're going to get back together.
Speaker 3 And they made out in New York, in not New York City, at New Year's.
Speaker 1 And if you've ever like been Molly Mae or been friends with a Molly Mae, which I feel like I've been in both situations,
Speaker 1 it is so hard to like watch watch your friend go through that.
Speaker 1 And it's so hard to be her because you're like, okay, well, if obviously all my friends want me happy, and if I'm happy by getting back together with him, like, why aren't they happy for me?
Speaker 1 And I feel like she's like kind of going through like that type of thing.
Speaker 3 Where I
Speaker 1 obviously am not friends with Molly Mae in real life, but I'm like, if it makes you happy to be his girlfriend again, I love it for you.
Speaker 3 I agree with you in that you can't make someone do anything
Speaker 3 because if she in her heart of hearts feels like there's more to this relationship with her and Tommy, she will never move on from it. She'll always be like, what if, what if, what if?
Speaker 3 It's more like sometimes as a friend, I realize you have to let them fuck up. Like, let them fucking fucking fucking fucking fucking.
Speaker 1 And you have to let people do things on their own time schedule.
Speaker 3 Also, also, let's give her some empathy that, like, she has a child with this man.
Speaker 3 It's not like this random like DJ that like keeps cheating on her and she for no reason keeps fucking him in his one bedroom apartment. This got specific, but like
Speaker 3
it's she has a family with this guy and she had a dream of what her life would be like. Honestly, I wonder if she's in her Saturn return.
That's what it's giving.
Speaker 1 Oh my god. I'm in my...
Speaker 1 You know what else you can do on chat sheet PT, which I feel like people don't know about?
Speaker 3 Astrology.
Speaker 1
You can do like all your astrology. Oh my god.
And I just like ended like a seven-year cycle.
Speaker 3 Wait, first of all, congratulations. Second, you could also do a color chart thing.
Speaker 3 What do you mean? You can ask them for your colors. Like, am I a summer and a winter?
Speaker 1 And I'm doing that tonight.
Speaker 3 But also, we do not want anyone to be out of work because of this.
Speaker 3 So, contact your Instagram color chart analysis person.
Speaker 1 Yeah, contact your local astrologer.
Speaker 3 And your local astrologer because it's not going to hit the same. And it's about how people actually analyze it from a human way.
Speaker 2 You're so right.
Speaker 3
Thank you. No, period.
I do have to say, though, it was kind of crazy the scene where she was like, went to the L'Oreal Paris thing and didn't want to walk the runway.
Speaker 3 No.
Speaker 3 I know. And
Speaker 3 she just kept going, how pretty is Kendall Jenner? How pretty is Kendall Jenner?
Speaker 3
That's the shit that I don't understand. And one, it's because I'm delusional.
But two, I'm just like, you are you. Like, I'm like you, and you're so.
Speaker 1 I'm like, wait, Molly, you're stunning. Like, you're.
Speaker 3 It's like a weird imposter syndrome.
Speaker 1 A perfect example, too, is I was watching it with my mom, and my mom has no idea who Molly Mae is. And I'm giving her like general background.
Speaker 1 And I'm like, the only way to describe her is you just want to be her friend. And then like one episode in, I'm like, are you obsessed with Molly Mae? And she's like, and she's just the cutest.
Speaker 1 Like you just get like obsessed with her.
Speaker 1 I just love her so much.
Speaker 1 Shoot, what was I just going to say?
Speaker 3 Well, we didn't finish the story about Anna Wintor. Yeah.
Speaker 1 But then I was going to say something, but it'll come back to me.
Speaker 3 So we're struggling up the stairs. We're hitchhiking up these stairs, and we're also wearing like very nice clothes.
Speaker 3
I thought I was going to get there before you. You said 15 minutes.
I was 10 minutes away. I come to the front and I say, Where is
Speaker 3
Paige DeSorbo here? And they go, Yes, she's here. And immediately I panic.
I go, oh no. Paige is alone in a foreign place without me.
Speaker 1 Well, I was panicking at that moment too that I was in a warm place.
Speaker 3 So this is a huge ballroom. Paige, for some reason, is standing alone at a table,
Speaker 3 like a scared little princess. And I have this like meet cute moment where I'm across the room and as she's turning, I wait for her to lock eyes with me and I say, I'm here.
Speaker 3 And then she starts smiling and I run up to you. And then we latched.
Speaker 3
We latched on. We latched.
We took some photos by the ladder, which
Speaker 3 I did not have to put my foot on the ladder. That was an insane thing.
Speaker 1 They asked you to.
Speaker 3 They did, but I thought
Speaker 3 they should have been like
Speaker 1 yeah they should have been like and one picture with it was fine
Speaker 1 and it was a creative creative choice that we were renting i also felt so swollen that night you looked gorgeous
Speaker 3 like fully pregnant no that was my maternity dress like my stomach could not have been more bloated that was literally like your maternity style is maybe crazy it's gonna be crazy it's gonna be so
Speaker 1 crazy you're like already have pinterest boards i know it No, I'm really hoping that like the peak of my pregnancy is the spring.
Speaker 3 Are you going to show the belly? Like, are you going to do those like open button shirts and stuff?
Speaker 1 You know what?
Speaker 1
I don't know. I'm going to, it's not going to be my whole personality, but there will be occasions where it's like, oh, and that's an accessory.
Yes.
Speaker 1 But I'm not going to do it like all the time because honestly, I think it's like overdone.
Speaker 3 It's like, we got it.
Speaker 3 Oh, you're pregnant again this month? You were pregnant last month?
Speaker 1 He's like, unless you're Rihanna, honestly, I don't like care.
Speaker 3 Also, do whatever you want.
Speaker 1 Literally, do whatever the fuck you want.
Speaker 3 I don't give a shit. Are you going to do a photo shoot?
Speaker 3 Yes, but just for yourself.
Speaker 1 Yeah, but when has that ever happened?
Speaker 3 It was last time we did something just for ourselves.
Speaker 3 I don't know.
Speaker 1 I mean, I'll definitely do one, I think.
Speaker 3 We meet up with Samantha Berry, who is the editor-in-chief of Glamour. Now, let me just say, editor-in-chief, what a fucking
Speaker 3 cool-ass title.
Speaker 1 I legitimately felt like we were in the movie 13 going on 30, and we accidentally woke up and we were 30, and they're like, and you have to go to this dinner. And we're like, wait, what?
Speaker 3
Because we're with all these people who have like actual jobs. And we're standing there.
And so Samantha Berry, I got lucky, is Irish, knows Des, friends with Des.
Speaker 3
We're in. I was like, let's, this is great.
We're all a big family. So we're chatting with Samantha.
You're, you know, doing your thing.
Speaker 1 Stunning. Stunning.
Speaker 3 Well, everyone thought she was Lindsay Lohan, which
Speaker 3
I was fine with. I was like, I know, crazy meeting Lindsay at the New York Public Library, but no, she's not.
She really did.
Speaker 1 They really do look similar, yeah.
Speaker 3
And incredible charisma. Just everything.
We love you, Samantha. So we're talking, and then on the corner of my eye, I see a fuck-ass Bob.
Extremely shiny.
Speaker 1 The
Speaker 3
fuck-ass bob. The fuck-ass bob, shiny.
And the way she walked was actually levitation. Like, she was
Speaker 3 the whole place stood still as she levitated through.
Speaker 1 You know what's crazy to think about Anna Wintor when we like don't think about it enough? She's just going to after-work dinners.
Speaker 1 Like, she's literally just doing her normal work day. And, like, she's like, oh, and tonight I have, like, that dinner.
Speaker 3 Shout out to Anna Wintor
Speaker 3 for being on the fucking grind.
Speaker 3 Met Gala Monday who knows what she did to then then Wednesday at this after work drinks talking to people like and apparently she's in every meeting like she is not just the face of something like she's in the weeds Anna Wintor
Speaker 3 she starts coming our way because we're hanging out with an editor-in-chief like that's editor-in-chief right there she starts coming our way I remembered what I was gonna say previously but just keep going
Speaker 3
the gigglers one and now I'm stressed that you're going forget it again. No, I'm not.
I'm so stressed. No, I'm not.
Speaker 3 Yeah, you are. So the
Speaker 3 you forgot already. The gigglers are freaking out.
Speaker 3 They wrote because you posted the photos and they were like, Paige, how nervous were you that you've waited your whole life to be in front of Anna Wintor and my big-ass mouth was in between you and Anna Wintor and I represent you.
Speaker 3 We were introduced together that I was going to say something that would ruin your forever future of going to the Met Gala.
Speaker 1 I was so
Speaker 1 this is this was such a top person on my list to like meet. Like this was such a like bucketless moment for me that I went mom, silence.
Speaker 1
I couldn't say anything. I couldn't think.
I was like, not the time to like try out a joke. Like not anything in my head that I thought to say.
I was like, not the time.
Speaker 1 So I kind of just let Samantha talk the most
Speaker 1 because there was nothing I could do but like nod and smile.
Speaker 3
So for some reason, I was feeling myself. Yeah.
Well,
Speaker 3 and she's, we started.
Speaker 1 You're like holding my beer. You can't think of anything to say?
Speaker 3
I was fully riffing with Anna Wintor. She, well, she commented on the stairs and I said, this is my, I'm a huge stair.
We've been talk joking about stairs for a while now.
Speaker 3 We have to discuss the stairs.
Speaker 3
I'm a stair comedian. Yeah, I'm a stair comedian.
We're laughing. And then,
Speaker 3 like, Anna Wintor, I think it's also because she's British, she's dry, she's funny. I was like, Yeah, she just wants a little laugh.
Speaker 3 And then I think I said something corny where I was like, you know, thanks for everything you do, or something really general. Like, you know, and you just, you know, you don't know what's going on.
Speaker 3
And world peace. And world peace.
Like, you know, they're great, but you don't know what words to put together. But, um,
Speaker 3 then I turned together.
Speaker 1 Like, what could we say to Anna Wintour that hasn't been said about her or to her?
Speaker 3 Like, a thousand percent. I know she looked us up and down.
Speaker 1 She gave us a little look. No, I felt it.
Speaker 3
I felt it. I sucked in and I and then I was like, I need to bring the comedy here.
So she laughs. We made her giggle.
We're on Cloud Nine. I turned to you and I go,
Speaker 3 you feel good?
Speaker 3
And you were like, yeah. And I realized like, that's if like Serena Williams walked up to us.
Yeah. I would have shot my pants.
You would have been riffing, silly, funny.
Speaker 3 I would have been like, hubba, hubba, hubba da.
Speaker 1 Yeah, I would have been like, adorable skirt, obsess.
Speaker 3 but no anna winter is also on my bucket list just everything she's accomplished is um no that was she's an icon it really was crazy and then she gave a full speech
Speaker 1 full speech like full mingling and then i literally scooted out there to give myself a shot at 9 15.
Speaker 3 can i call you out on something you did before that
Speaker 3
You are all nervous. You don't know who to be friends with.
And I'm standing by you and I'm holding your hand. And then I haven't like felt Paige's energy in a minute.
I look over.
Speaker 3 You've made like a best friend in the woman next to you to the point that you were like ignoring me. I was like, Paige, and you were like, I gave her my number.
Speaker 3 No, you fell in love. I watched you fall in love with this woman to the point that I was like, you're having a fair in front of me.
Speaker 1 She texted me asking me how my egg retrieval went.
Speaker 3
Also, she was like, she was pregnant. So Paige was like, she was pregnant.
Sorry, the mothers are talking. I was like, okay.
Speaker 3 So I was fully like going to take care of you the whole time because I was worried for you because you had social anxiety. And then you literally left me to die.
Speaker 3
And then literally left me to die. And then you were like, oh, I need to take my shot and left.
And I was sitting there like, okay.
Speaker 1
What? No. Also in that moment, I was like, this is, there are such trade-offs of motherhood.
I can't imagine. You know, like, I can't wait to dive into it when the day is right.
Speaker 1
You don't even have to Irish exit anymore. You can literally stand up at a table of nine women and say, I'm leaving.
It pertains to my children. And they're like, get out of here.
Run.
Speaker 1 Get out of here.
Speaker 3 You're lucky you even came here in the first place.
Speaker 1
Yeah. They were like, can't believe you even made it out of the house.
You know, so I stood up and I said, guys, I have to give myself a shot in the abdomen. I'm going to be late.
Speaker 1 And they're like, go on and prosper.
Speaker 3 I think like you're one of my first close, close friends to freezer eggs, or at least tell me about it. So I didn't know what like the social stigma was, but I was like really loosey-goosey.
Speaker 3
I think because you had told people, but I realized later, like, maybe you shouldn't. But I was like, oh, Paige is freezing her eggs.
And some girl looks at me. I'm like, oh, she's freezing her eggs.
Speaker 3 Like, I told everyone.
Speaker 1 There's no HIPAA.
Speaker 3 But I feel like you wait to see that your friend is like okay with with that first. But I felt like you were kind of loving the attention.
Speaker 1 No, I was
Speaker 1 again, if there's another thing about motherhood that I've learned, I'm gonna love my baby shower I
Speaker 1 like I am thinking more about my baby shower than any wedding event you know and I was trying to see like okay how am I going to carry is my mouth gonna get swollen
Speaker 1 and so the day my mom gets to my apartment I'm she gets my apartment and now I'm going the next morning for my egg retrieval. So I'm like peak bloat.
Speaker 1
And I, in classic like mother fashion, I'm like, this is so adorable. Look at how I'm going to carry.
Just like so tiny. And she looks at me and she goes, you think?
Speaker 3 Like,
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just like that. You need 20 more years of therapy.
Yeah, I was like, wait. Only a mom could do that.
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Well, that reminds me of you. You sent me a bloated photo of you and you had your hand on your lower back like it was hurting.
What are you saying?
Speaker 1 I'm practicing posing.
Speaker 3 Method acting.
Speaker 3 You're like, I identify as a pregnant woman. Pause playing.
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Speaker 1 here's what i remembered what i was gonna say because we touched on the bill belich of it all oh and jordan last week
Speaker 1 what'd she do since then she's been banned
Speaker 3
Wait, I love a girl who's been banned. Like, justice for her.
Like, I don't even have to hear what she says.
Speaker 1 She was banned from literally like his entire, entire the entire facility of like North Carolina, like where he works, like banned from the whole thing.
Speaker 3 Wait, I didn't even know he worked. I thought he was retired.
Speaker 1 He's the coach of North Carolina.
Speaker 3 Oh, I didn't know that. Oops.
Speaker 1 And she competed for Miss Maine this past weekend. She got third.
Speaker 3
Oh, wow. So she's busy too.
She's busy too. She's like, don't ban me.
I'm busy in Maine. I didn't want to go to your party anyway.
Speaker 3 She's competing.
Speaker 1 And Bill goes to support her, which we love.
Speaker 3 We love a supportive gang.
Speaker 1 Here's the only thing. He's sitting next to her dad, who he is, he is older than her dad.
Speaker 1 And for me, I thought, mmm, mm.
Speaker 1 Now, this I don't.
Speaker 1 This I don't appreciate. I didn't, I couldn't.
Speaker 3 Well, we didn't understand.
Speaker 3 Did you see Jordan's ex is also like in the 70s?
Speaker 3 No.
Speaker 3 Yeah, so it's not like she ran.
Speaker 3 This is her thing.
Speaker 3
She has a thing. Which is insane.
I'm not going to yuck someone's yum.
Speaker 1 Yeah, me neither.
Speaker 3 I do have to say, it's like when someone blocks you on Instagram, you're like, oh, so you're that obsessed with me? That's how it's giving them banning her. I'm like, why are you, what did she do?
Speaker 1 Like, right, like, I feel like you have to do
Speaker 1 a lot of things
Speaker 1 anywhere.
Speaker 3 I mean, I'm probably brought, um, I'm probably banned from BravoCon, but that's suicidal.
Speaker 1 They like they have your picture in the back room.
Speaker 3 They're like, if anyone sees her, take her out immediately.
Speaker 1 Wait, there's if Bravo here's the thing, I have one thing I'll say about Bravo. One, Bravo should bring back their commercials.
Speaker 1 Me and Hannah were always pitching like Bravo lebrities in an office, like doing office things
Speaker 3 Like sports broadcaster,
Speaker 1 like ESPN old commercials.
Speaker 1 Teresa Judice needs a sandwich for like why they don't vlog Bravocon with like a certain number of Bravo lebridies and just send a camera with them the entire weekend and make it like the office.
Speaker 1 Like they're really missing out on some like really funny skits and bits.
Speaker 3
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm. Look, we're producers.
We're producing.
Speaker 1 We're literal producers. Sorry, we're creative.
Speaker 3 Yeah. Sorry.
Speaker 3
This brain's always moving. Also, you're chugging coffee right now.
It's 8 p.m. Are you going to be able to go to sleep? I'm worried.
I'm stressed out now.
Speaker 1 I think I.
Speaker 3 It's mental.
Speaker 1 I think not being able to sleep after caffeine is literally mental and like gaslighting yourself.
Speaker 3 Wait, you're so right.
Speaker 1 Jet lag is a social construct.
Speaker 3
Wait, I think I need to move to LA though, because I am like, I live a good life there. I wake up so late here.
I'm struggling. I'm staying up late.
Speaker 3 I don't know who she is. Oh, also, another hot take.
Speaker 3 And this is going to be chugged, and this is going to make me sound like an actual mother.
Speaker 1 But I'm obsessed.
Speaker 3 We need to stop with the smoking.
Speaker 3 I was walking home today, and I saw two very cute girls smoking six.
Speaker 3 And I was like, oh, hell no.
Speaker 3 Gen Z.
Speaker 3
Like 19. No way.
No way. This is how, no, but this is how trends work.
Like, we worked so hard to stop smoking to the point that it was like gone.
Speaker 3 That now it's like become cool again to smoke because they like forgot that it was bad. Also,
Speaker 3
I love Addison Rae. I think all her songs, Slapping, we do not need the SI to look cool.
Stop with the cigarettes and fashion. Stop.
Speaker 3
And like, it's, and it's also like cosplaying, like, trying, like, give me a prop to try to look cool. I have like Instagram photos where people have a sig.
Stop it.
Speaker 1
The only appropriate place to smoke a sig is in Europe in the summer. And it has to be a skinny sig.
And
Speaker 1 you have to be drunk or sitting at a small circular table. And that's the only rules.
Speaker 3 And that's just the rules.
Speaker 1 And that's just the rules. If you are in the confines of the United States of America,
Speaker 1 it's not cigarette time.
Speaker 3 I told you when I was in high school, my friend was going through a breakup and she was at her dramatic, she took out the cigarettes and I took it and I threw it away. And she was so mad at me.
Speaker 3 And And I said, I just saved your life.
Speaker 3 Also, Jewel, like a normal person.
Speaker 1 Like, super serious.
Speaker 3 Well, think, I'm not even smoking weed at that point. So then I see a cigarette and I was like,
Speaker 3 this is the smell of the music.
Speaker 1 Oh my gosh. How were you when you were like post-college and you realized everyone did cocaine?
Speaker 3
No one told me about it. Literally no one told me till like last year.
They were like, we were coked out. And I was like, what?
Speaker 3 No one tells me.
Speaker 1 You turn 23 and you're like, okay, so toilet paper is crazy expensive. Cheese is like, is a luxury item.
Speaker 3
And everyone does cocaine. That's insane.
Wait, Paige, no one offered me cocaine.
Speaker 1 Stop.
Speaker 3
No one. Hannah.
I think it's the energy I bring to the function. They think I'm already coked out.
They're like, she stole someone.
Speaker 1 She should be offering it to us, honestly.
Speaker 3 so hannah stole someone's cocaine and is doesn't need any more the coke went missing and we're pretty sure it was hannah wait it's giving everyone thought i was already coked out
Speaker 3 is that a compliment shout out to me for getting on dumois for the first time
Speaker 1 Kind of like epic. I literally screenshotted Dumois this past Sunday and sent it to Hannah and it was like, literally sounded like you and Chelsea Handler were like on a lesbian dinner date.
Speaker 3 It's a Hannah and Chelsea at the Soho Grand. Hannah was laughing and they left like arm in arm and I was like.
Speaker 1 The last sentence, leaving arm in arm was
Speaker 3
crazy. I love it.
The funny thing is, so Chelsea's my new friend. And as we all know, Chelsea loves drugs.
So I'm battling with myself being like, do I do drugs? Because
Speaker 3 I'm talking to my childhood icon. No,
Speaker 1 she's experienced.
Speaker 3 Well, also, if I do drugs in front of her and it goes bad, I'll never work in this town again.
Speaker 1 Which drug would you even try?
Speaker 3 Well, I think they like having fun with like
Speaker 3 mushrooms and drugs.
Speaker 3 Yeah. Again,
Speaker 3 unnecessary.
Speaker 1 Because I think I watched, she did like an episode where she took something and like, yeah, I think it was like an ambient.
Speaker 3
Yeah. So now I just fall asleep.
I'm like, I'm going to go do ayahuasca with Chelsea tonight. And he's like, okay, have fun.
Like,
Speaker 3 but my thing is, I'm 33.
Speaker 3 Best case scenario, I like it, and then I like MDMA, and I become hooked on MDMA at 33.
Speaker 1 You're like always asking me to go to Raves.
Speaker 3 I'm like, I have a chance. I just
Speaker 3 discover Dubstep at 33, and I need to go to a Brooklyn warehouse at 33.
Speaker 1 You text me and you're like, any chance you have a neon fanny pack I can borrow? I'm like, no.
Speaker 3 Call your doctor.
Speaker 3 Oh my gosh. Yeah, I've just.
Speaker 1 Quick question. Do you have high-top converts that you don't care about anymore?
Speaker 1 They may get pain on them. I'm like, stop, Hannah.
Speaker 3 I go, I've started wearing thongs at 33.
Speaker 3
That's when you know shit's bad. If I ever started wearing thongs, call the police.
Oh, gosh.
Speaker 3 One other honorable mention.
Speaker 3 Everyone's...
Speaker 3 Still tagging us in all their books whenever they go to read it. Have you been getting it? Like morning coffee,
Speaker 3
every giggler's in Cancun. I don't know how, but every giggler's on vacation.
Yeah. There are some
Speaker 1 rich gigglers.
Speaker 1 I'm like, wait a minute. I'm like, do a panorama.
Speaker 3 Can you guys write a book on how to go on these great vacations?
Speaker 3
But they've also been tagging their pets. And I just have to say a shout out to all the cat moms out there, and I love the dogs too.
But the cats have
Speaker 3
really good names. And I just have to do a shout-out to one specific cat with a name that really made me laugh.
This one girl's cat's name is Crunchwrap.
Speaker 3 Miss Supreme, get over here.
Speaker 1 Wait, I'm obsessed.
Speaker 3 Crunchwrap? You know what's a cat name?
Speaker 1 That, like, when you do get an animal or a pet, you name them a name and then you literally never say that name again.
Speaker 3 What is with that?
Speaker 3 You know, like.
Speaker 3 Yeah.
Speaker 1 It's aware that I'm like Daphne. You know, I'm like, Miss Girl, Miss Kitty, like Miss Lady.
Speaker 3
If you don't change her, if you call your cat by their government name, you're not connected to her. Like you don't love her.
But I do have two rules for naming your cat or dog.
Speaker 3
It has to be either a real person name like Daphne or Jennifer or Steven. Like I really think that's funny.
Yeah. Or a food name.
Speaker 1 Yeah.
Speaker 3 You know, someone recently,
Speaker 3 cannoli. Oh my God, cute.
Speaker 1 Like that stuff is. Like I love the the name pickle, pickle, butter, crunch wrap.
Speaker 3 So, anyway, that's just
Speaker 3 a side note. Um, cute stuff,
Speaker 3 anything else?
Speaker 1 I have one last thing to say because I feel like we're always talking about travel and how much, like, we hate the airport and all this stuff.
Speaker 1
I keep getting TikTok videos of I'm obsessed with ballerinas. I love their aesthetic.
I love their vibe.
Speaker 1 Like, I want to be in a girl friend group of ballerinas, you know, and I want them to like low-key hate me. Like, I just like I'm obsessed with them.
Speaker 1
I keep getting all these ballerinas in airports doing full-out routines. Now, usually, like, if I saw that at an airport, I would be like, I'll murder everyone.
I'm obsessed. I love it.
Speaker 1 I love a dancing video when I'm like nowhere near involved, but I can like
Speaker 3 watch it. Yeah, I can appreciate it.
Speaker 1 If I saw two ballerinas doing their thing in the middle of LaGuardia,
Speaker 3
I love that. That's the thing.
It's not like,
Speaker 3
you know, when everyone comes together, flash mobs. Okay, that was a millennial thing that was like actually offensive.
Like, that should never have happened.
Speaker 1 Like, people got engaged in the middle of flash mobs. Yeah, like at Costco.
Speaker 3 Like, it was
Speaker 3 disgusting. It's not a flash mob.
Speaker 3
And it was really a trend. It was really bad.
And a lot of people lost a lot of time off their lives with that. Two ballerinas, that's art.
Speaker 3
That's like a painting. That's friends hanging out.
Yeah, that's friends hanging out. That's Fantasia.
Speaker 1
No, I want to. Can we please go to the ballet? Like, I've literally never been to the ballet.
All I want to do is like wear a chic, cool.
Speaker 1 I feel like going to the ballet in the summer in New York City is like, hello?
Speaker 3 Who are we? Wait, I just thought of something. To add to our YouTube series, we have to do Hannah and Page Tri-Ballet.
Speaker 1 Please, can we? Do you know Josephine takes adult ballet classes?
Speaker 3 This is my question.
Speaker 3 Do you think you could, like, for a second, second cosplay and like for a second someone will be like wait she could be a ballerina cast me in a ballerina ass movie yeah i've been preparing for the role my whole life see that's where like when i think i could be a chef or like that see ballerina i'm like not for a second would someone be like can it happen no
Speaker 1 i think it's because the movie center stage came out at like a very pivotal moment and it was like i was like eight or like nine where i was like is this like a sexual awakening Like, I think it was like the first time I was like, That's a gay man, like
Speaker 1 things like that. Yeah, and I just like loved it.
Speaker 3 See, I'm more connected to the one, um, the hip-hop one
Speaker 3 with
Speaker 3 Stephen
Speaker 3 Channing Tato.
Speaker 3 Even before that, honey, Jessica Alba. No, before that,
Speaker 3 Julia Stiles,
Speaker 3 save the last dance, save the last dance.
Speaker 3 That was more me-coated.
Speaker 3 Um,
Speaker 3
oh, I also was getting photos taken of myself. And at one point, the lady was clearly trying to tell me that, like, I need to make my hands look like gentler.
Softer. Yeah.
Softer. Would you get that?
Speaker 3 A lot. A lot.
Speaker 3 And she kept, and I just kept laughing because she kept being like, and let's relax the fingers.
Speaker 3
And she kept being like, and let's not tense up the arm. And then it's a trick where, like, when you put your leg over the other leg, you don't actually push down.
You like pretend.
Speaker 3 And she just kept being like, and we're f we're light as a feather. And I was like, this is not the vibe that I'm going to give you.
Speaker 1 She's like, and maybe you don't look like this. Maybe you could do something where you look not like you differently from you.
Speaker 3 I literally have mini hot dogs for fingers. They're not going to look like ballerina-esque.
Speaker 3 Right.
Speaker 3 Anyway, everyone, like, I can't be perfect. Sorry.
Speaker 1 No, I can't be perfect.
Speaker 3 Sorry,
Speaker 3 everything for everyone.
Speaker 1
Sorry, I can't freeze my eggs. Put them back in my body.
Have a bait. Like, sorry.
Speaker 3 Sorry. And have gentle fingers.
Speaker 1 And also be soft throughout the day.
Speaker 3 No, the patriarchy wins again.
Speaker 3 We love you guys so much. Our new episode just aired of
Speaker 3 episode two of Hannah Page Try New Things. So check that out.
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And we love you guys so much. Thanks for giggling.
And to end the app, we're playing another audiobook excerpt for you to enjoy from How to Giggle, available everywhere now. Third week bestseller.
Speaker 3 Let's go.
Speaker 3 I really believe in manifestation, but not like write this 1,000 times in your journal and it will come true kind of manifestation.
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More like believe so deep in your gut that you are already what you want to be. It's similar to the idea of happiness.
You do not have to chase happiness. It's within you.
You just have to find it.
Speaker 3
This is so Brene Brown coded. Let's continue.
I like to think of life like it's a single player game and you want to reach new levels of yourself.
Speaker 3
You can't just go about your day with no goal and expect things to happen. That's like being a quarterback and wanting to win but not having any plays.
Let's get some strategy.
Speaker 3 I always start big and then get smaller. Write down your biggest goal in the world, such as winning an Oscar.
Speaker 3
Then go backward to each step and write what you need to do to get to that step. To win an Oscar, I need to be in a successful movie.
To be in a successful movie, I need to have acted in other movies.
Speaker 3 To act in movies, I need a casting agent. To get a casting agent, I have to get a following on social media for acting videos.
Speaker 3
To get a following on social media, I need to start posting acting videos every day. To post a video every day, I need an acting coach and to write scripts.
Okay,
Speaker 3 now this is something I can start to do tomorrow.
Speaker 3 If you hear this and rolled your eyes and called me delusional, go back to chapter three because you didn't retain anything!
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Sorry for yelling. I realize that every successful person had a time when they had to start from the beginning.
And manifesting keeps you focused and calm while working toward a goal.
Speaker 3 I really feel like we are all leaves in the wind, and manifesting gives you direction to put your energy and tell the universe what you want.
Speaker 3 When you put something into the universe, I don't mean witchcraft. I mean when something is on your mind, you will see more opportunities for it and you will tell people about it.
Speaker 3 You're planting seeds that can one day grow into your dreams. Farmer girlies, unite.
Speaker 3 When it starts to feel fun and exciting, That means you're in alignment. If you're not having fun, pivot.
Speaker 3 Warning girlies, nothing ever goes according to plan, but trust that you are always moving in the right direction. Keep your eyes wide open and stay on track.
Speaker 3 Pages Methods.
Speaker 1 If you made it this far listening, well, then good for you. You are officially a woman in STEM.
Speaker 1 Of course, the M stands for manifesting, and let's just say I love a TikTok psychic just as much as the next person. But you know me, I have a tough time believing a single thing they say.
Speaker 1 The way I like to manifest is extremely page-coded, and it is another excuse for me to make a list. I like to set a five-year totally unrealistic goal list.
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It doesn't have to be long and it doesn't have to be totally attainable. That is the beauty of manifesting.
You can make it whatever you want. It all depends on you and how you feel about yourself.
Speaker 1
or whatever Brene Brown says. I use these lists as a guide for things I would like to accomplish professionally and personally.
I look at it once a month.
Speaker 1 When I do come across this list amid the hundreds of other lists on my phone, I fantasize about how it would feel to be living as that version of myself.
Speaker 1 Now I'm not going to tell you to throw cinnamon through your door on a full moon while Mercury is in the microwave. but I am going to tell you to really actually fantasize about it.
Speaker 1 Whenever I'm in the shower, I always feel like I'm at my most creative and think of so many things. But as soon as I'm out of the shower, it's like I forgot everything and I'm back to reality.
Speaker 3 Hot girls have short-term memory loss.
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