Giggling about nicknames, quadzilla, and the zeitgeist

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And I am wearing glasses today. No, you look really pretty today.

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And she's like, cute.

Speaker 1 Wait, cute.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 We were just. I miss you so much.
Wait, no, I miss you so much. We've been praying for a weekend free.
And then the whole time I just like watched TV and missed page.

Speaker 1 No, literally, Netflix was like,

Speaker 1 you've caught us.

Speaker 1 We're out of shit for you. I watched everything that's ever been made this weekend.
Yeah. I finished it.
Are you ever like binging? Like, you're doing a full rat day.

Speaker 1 Like, you've been there for eight hours. Yeah.
You're like, oh, I have nothing else to watch. Do you ever feel like I can't watch old stuff? like if it's not new i'm like

Speaker 1 like like i'll be hanging out with someone and they'll be like let's like throw on what's your favorite movie and i'm like unless it's new i'm not watching it i do have to say because i have an older man every now and then i like to experience his culture yeah and i say what's a movie that like you loved from back in the day that i've never seen and that's a fun experience for us because also you know how we just like know actresses but we never know their like breakout role yeah from like the 90s or the 2000s.

Speaker 1 I watched Mulholland Drive last night. Have you ever have you ever

Speaker 1 desktop?

Speaker 1 I feel like I've heard of it. Yeah, I couldn't give you one.
It's in the zeitgeist, so it's Naomi Watts breakout role. You just wanted to say zeitgeist because you're wearing glasses.
Yes,

Speaker 1 neither of us can spell zeitgeist. What is a zeitgeist? I feel like it's like something that's really relevant, like cultural.
Okay, what's like relevant? Yes, yes, like zeitgeist. I feel like wait,

Speaker 1 we are the zeitgeist. We are zeitgeist.
That's our we the giggling is zeitgeist.

Speaker 1 We just start using it inappropriately. Um, this movie, if you oh my god, you should watch it.
I like can't get comfortable.

Speaker 1 I'm like squirming like a little I was dying laughing because the last episode, you, whenever I would talk, you were having a coughing attack, and then you also lost something at one point, and you were just whenever I would talk, you were looking for it.

Speaker 1 And at one point, I was like, what are you looking for?

Speaker 1 That was on Zoom. That was on Zoom.

Speaker 1 There's like nothing to see over here. So, Mulholland Drive, it got famous for this sex lesbian scene with Naomi Watts and the other actress who I forgot.
Okay. But it's like hot.

Speaker 1 Damn, a rough day to be that other actress.

Speaker 1 I'm so sorry.

Speaker 1 Imagine it's like your breakout role and you just hear some Gen Z girl go, sorry, I forgot her name. You know what?

Speaker 1 Out of respect, Chris, because I know you're regularly googling the lesbian scene, you're creep. Can you tell? that?

Speaker 1 He's playing it right now. What's the name of the other actress?

Speaker 1 Sorry, what was the name? Chris, put your boner away. What was it? Can you do your job for a second?

Speaker 1 What's the name of the actress? Movie name again, one more time. Moholland.
Mohollandrive. No, we can't spell Moholland.

Speaker 1 So I love movies that trick me. Like, I want to be tricked.
I love a twist. We are like, I really wasn't expecting that.

Speaker 1 This movie is such an amazing trick that you will watch the whole movie and it finishes and you're still like that might have been the worst movie i ever watched and then you google it and you go i was completely tricked that was the best movie i've ever watched

Speaker 1 sorry for my

Speaker 1 sorry for my long pause i'm trying to think of think of like how to even word this so unless you google it afterward to find out the actual meaning you're gonna think it's the worst movie ever yeah Okay.

Speaker 1 And some would argue maybe that's a bad movie if you don't get it, but like no one gets it. But then once you realize, it's very artistic.

Speaker 1 Is the ending kind of like a Soprano's ending where people were pissed?

Speaker 1 No, the ending's incredible, but the ending makes you realize, oh, what I was thinking the whole time wasn't true, and now I have to rethink everything I thought about this movie.

Speaker 1 But there's how I wake up in the morning.

Speaker 1 You know, I'm just like, oh, everything I thought was actually a lie.

Speaker 1 So

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I think you guys should listen. It was a very fun episode.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so that's my world's been crushed. I have to rethink everything.
Do we have the name of the actress yet? Yeah, the stars of Naomi Watts and Laura Haring.

Speaker 1 Laura Harring. Shout out Laura.
Laura. She crushed it.
She's been doing well. She crushed it.

Speaker 1 What is she? Shout out to my least favorite ex-boyfriend. Usually we shout out my favorite one, but my least favorite one.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 He actually, like in my mid-20s, showed me so many movie, like classic movies that I had never seen that like I do feel better than people when I'm like, oh my God, you haven't seen that?

Speaker 1 It's a classic. See, I've never seen a movie before.
Like I'm

Speaker 1 like everything Dez says, I'm like, no, but he's like, oh, you fucking kidding me? And then we sit down and it's like. No, this guy had a zeitgeist, if you will.
I love just like classic movies.

Speaker 1 I literally like upped my movie game.

Speaker 1 I do have an uncle who's like obsessed with James Bond, so I've seen like a lot of the James Bond movies, but I wouldn't say that really brings any value to the community.

Speaker 1 Wait, speaking of like actresses, did you see Scarlett Johansson this past week say like why she doesn't take pictures with fans? Oh, yeah, she was like, I'm not working.

Speaker 1 No, she said, she gave a very Gwyneth Paltrow answer. Like, I feel like people aren't like laughing at it as much as like it should be laughed at.

Speaker 1 Like, when Gwyneth Paltrow said like consciously uncoupling, like she said that she doesn't take pictures with fans like out in the wild because wait, let me get the exact quote because it's so good.

Speaker 1 Since we are accomplished journalists, we're gonna get the quote right.

Speaker 1 Okay, so she would

Speaker 1 take pictures with fans because she doesn't want to be identified in this time or place with that person.

Speaker 1 But that's so funny, but part of me is like, okay, spy, like, who are you

Speaker 1 coming from? Part of me is like,

Speaker 1 what a crazy way to think of it. Like, that's such a like alien way to think of, like, yeah, I don't want to be involved in this time or place with you.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 But also, like, I get what she's saying, where she's like, I want to, I want to be, like, I want to like live my life and not

Speaker 1 people know where I am all the time. Yeah, not know, like, where I am, what I'm doing, who I'm with.
Like, I get that.

Speaker 1 But then some celebs live their lives where they want everyone to know at all times what they're doing, who they're with. Yeah.
For me,

Speaker 1 I wouldn't have the balls to say that to anyone,

Speaker 1 let alone, like, I would assume that her fan base is,

Speaker 1 well, actually, she's been in like so many. Well, she's been in Marvel that she probably does have a lot of men fan base.
The Marvel movies are like it for her, probably.

Speaker 1 A girl coming up to me, imagine just being like, I don't want to be identified in this time or place with you.

Speaker 1 A girl will come up to me at the airport, take a photo, and I look at her and I say, I'm so sorry for that photo. Like sometimes I really

Speaker 1 disappointed how bad I look in the photo. They're like, I can't use this fucking photo, Hannah.
Absolutely. I do have to do that.
You know, a giggler could come up and be like, I need a kidney.

Speaker 1 And I'd be like,

Speaker 1 point to the nearest hospital. Where are we going? If you think about it, like, you don't see that many selfies with, like, Kardashian

Speaker 1 celebrities. You don't see,

Speaker 1 you don't see. Where are all the selfies?

Speaker 1 When was the last time you saw Kim Kardashian do a selfie with someone? I think it's just they're like so protected. And maybe if

Speaker 1 maybe on like press days, they do, but like wherever they travel, they don't have to see anything.

Speaker 1 Like if I walked into a coffee shop in New York City right now and I saw Jennifer Lawrence standing there, the last thing I'm doing is asking her for a selfie

Speaker 1 because I respect her.

Speaker 1 Well, there are just some types of people who don't think like, oh, this is a human person who may, if everyone asked her to get a selfie every time they wanted, that she couldn't live her life.

Speaker 1 But some people see a celeb and think they're the first person to ever see that celeb and are like, oh my God.

Speaker 1 But also on the other hand, does it really hurt to just turn your head and be like, and smile? No, you know?

Speaker 1 I guess some people pick their boundaries differently.

Speaker 1 I do have to think like when you're a certain level of celeb, if you start with one photo, then it becomes a full meet and greet at the coffee shop, you know?

Speaker 1 Because then people are like, oh, you took a photo with them. Why not me? And next thing you know, you're like, how'd you get out? Kind of thing.

Speaker 1 And then it got me thinking about celebrity.

Speaker 1 Sorry, I watched a lot of celebrity documentaries. Niall Horan.
Yeah. Did you hear when he was on One Direction that he had a point where he got so big he couldn't go anywhere?

Speaker 1 But looking back at it, he's like, I also dealt with some paranoia that I thought that I would get swarmed anywhere I went.

Speaker 1 And he's like, looking back, I might have not been swarmed, but I was so scared at the possibility of getting swarmed that I like, I started hearing things and like,

Speaker 1 I couldn't leave my house.

Speaker 1 Stop. And that's what happened to Justin Bieber.
No way.

Speaker 1 Well, I just added that at the end. I don't know if that's true, but fame definitely hasn't helped.

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 no. And go full circle: Mulholland Drive is about Los Angeles and fame.

Speaker 1 It really is. It really is.

Speaker 1 I saw TikTok, and the girl was like, she was quoting something, and she was like, the stand,

Speaker 1 why has the standard for a wife stayed the same? Yet the standard for a husband has gone down. And she was like, Think about it years ago.
Like,

Speaker 1 she was like, My grandpa built my grandmother's house. Like, okay, she stayed in it and like made the house a home and like fed the kids and stuff, but he physically built the fucking house.

Speaker 1 Now, like, any man, he's like, Cool, I'll call a task rabbit. But women, we have to also like do all the home stuff, but then also do like the work stuff.

Speaker 1 And I would argue I want a man who is capable of being a present father. Yeah.
And by that, I mean like bring the baby to my nipple.

Speaker 1 I don't want to get up. Like someone who's waking up early, someone who's very involved in the parenting.

Speaker 1 I almost would rather, I mean, not that I should have to pick, but like I want a man who's more involved in like the cooking and the cleaning. I do have a.
I said, I just want a housekeeper.

Speaker 1 They just realized I do just want an assistant.

Speaker 1 Some of these girls who have done it right, they marry chefs.

Speaker 1 The one thing, though, is chefs are like a lot of the time crazy people because their job is just like being in hot places, yelling at people, snorting cocaine, tattoos. Like chefs are crazy.

Speaker 1 And then sometimes they go home and they're like, I'm not going to cook you a meal. It's like me coming home and having to do a stand-up set for Des.
I'm like, you have to pay money for that.

Speaker 1 Like, I don't do it for free. I just want someone who's like, I'll make school lunches.

Speaker 1 I do have to say, I've dated guys in the past who have cooked and it's been so hot and so fun i've never like dated a man that like

Speaker 1 the energy they put into barbecuing put it into everything yeah put it into sandwiches put it into pasta put it into steak get them like really into making steak you have to trick them to be like oh my god i love that salmon you made yeah and then they like get passionate about it and then it gets part their ego and then they're like obsessed with it that's what it is make it a part of their ego yes chris is smiling

Speaker 1 right and the second you make it and i go oh my god gosh, baby, I love it. Barbecue chicken is so good.
I go, my ex used to make it. Disgusting.
Disgusting. And honestly, he had a weak wrist.

Speaker 1 He couldn't even like lift it. You know what's so funny? I do that to my brother all the time.
My brother is a phenomenal chef. I love that for him.
And I'll DM him. Yeah, my brother is too.

Speaker 1 It's kind of crazy. We don't cook.
I'll send him things and I'll, and I'll, and I think he's catching on, but he's actually not.

Speaker 1 Like, I'll actively be like, I wish you could make this, but like, it's probably way too hard for you. And I always think like he knows I'm fucking with him, but he doesn't.

Speaker 1 And he'll be like, oh, so you think I can't make that? Like, are you kidding? You're so stupid. I actually can make it.
When are you coming home next? Cause I'll make it.

Speaker 1 And I'll be like, in two weeks. And he will have made it.
And I'm like, you stupid fuck.

Speaker 1 Like, you're so stupid. But I do it every time.
Someone for my brother's birthday bought him like a steak thing, like all these steaks. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And he gets really into like, oh, like, how high quality are these steaks? And then I keep buying him like things to make steaks with. And like, they love tchotchkis.

Speaker 1 Like, if you get them a new knife, like, you can, you can cut a pork chop with that knife that you can make. Yeah.
You make them feel like hunters, you know? That's why I'm like,

Speaker 1 we're so much smarter.

Speaker 1 And the joke of like men used to go to war is so funny to me, just to wrap this up, because my final thought is like, men literally used to go to war. Like, they would, like,

Speaker 1 is it even a final thought if you don't adjust your glasses, you know?

Speaker 1 Also, Also, this whole time. Am I fine? This whole time I can't see.
Like, I can't see.

Speaker 1 I've been fighting for my life with these fake glasses because I like the aesthetic, but like I feel blind. I can't hear.
I can't talk. I feel I have nothing left.
Men used to go to war.

Speaker 1 Men used to have their arm blown off and still run and like do what they had to do.

Speaker 1 Nowadays, a man's going down on you and sees you're spotting slightly on your period and he's like, I can't do it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Men used to go to war and you can't go down at me when I'm on my period.
Grow up.

Speaker 1 Is that is and that's a great final thought. Wait, I'm so scared to ask you this because, like, you're gonna break my heart.
Oh my god, I'm so excited.

Speaker 1 You're going to literally rip my heart apart. Oh my god, yeah,

Speaker 1 ask.

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Yeah. Second season's better than first.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 It's like stupid humor. So it's

Speaker 1 not like fully where I'm like, you have to watch the show. It's so funny.
Yeah, but there are so many bits in it that I'm like that's fucking hilarious and it gives like a you and I right

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Speaker 1 I Basically was like this is so weird, but in another universe, this is me and you

Speaker 1 It's just such a like funny

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Speaker 1 i fall been falling asleep to it i fall asleep to the megan markle show but to each her to each their own side note the megan markle show i started watching who is make jackie shimmel did a whole thing of her watching it in her comments and she made a comment where she was like i've never seen someone

Speaker 1 like be with her friends but act like she just met her friends like the lack of chemistry she has with like her uncle in it and i kind of loved it i love that i i feel like megan

Speaker 1 we forget, she always wanted to be an entertainer. And now she's just like, this is, it's

Speaker 1 funny because an actress. It's very Martha Stewart, except she doesn't start off with being like, I particularly have a skill for this.
She just kind of was like, fuck her and find out. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, I'm getting my kids ready for school and also making beautiful parfaits. Yes.
Like, and this is what I do. Yeah, it seems like while the world is burning, you can have a beehive.

Speaker 1 My only gripe with Megan, and it's not really even a gripe, it's I can't stand when she calls Harry H

Speaker 1 because I just feel like that. Okay.

Speaker 1 I'm not like.

Speaker 1 Oh my God, it was not expecting that.

Speaker 1 I'll be here for the rest of the hour.

Speaker 1 I'm here to Wednesday.

Speaker 1 Because here's the thing that annoys me, and it's the logistics of it.

Speaker 1 A nickname is supposed to be easier to say than the actual person's name.

Speaker 1 The name Harry is like quite literally, I feel like one of the easiest names. Rolls off the tongue.
Rolls off the tongue. To say H, I feel like is harder on your mouth.
Can you call me H for now on?

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 then in change

Speaker 1 does not make it like an easier nickname. Sorry, I had a friend who I love, but she did the most annoying thing where whenever she'd say H.
I just realized your name starts with H.

Speaker 1 is what he says why would I call you that

Speaker 1 you go wait how it starts with an age I had this friend who whenever she would start dating a guy like they'd be a weekend yeah and she'd be like me and Jay and his name was like Jason she'd be like Jay and I and then she'd meet another guy named like Patrick she'd be like me and P and I was like this is I feel like you're overcompensating because you you guys actually haven't Talked about any yeah, you've never spoken to each other.

Speaker 1 I'm just thinking like have I ever been close to any boyfriend ever? I've never called them like a nickname ever. Like, I would say, like, from their own name.

Speaker 1 I once started dating a guy, and I would say, like, babe, and he was like, don't ever call me that. And I was like, okay, I'm packing that therapy.
Like, I'm just. You know what?

Speaker 1 I'm saying some other choice words, you fucking asshole.

Speaker 1 How about that for a nickname, babe?

Speaker 1 What's your go-to when you were in a relationship and had someone who loved you?

Speaker 1 When I felt a warm warm touch at night

Speaker 1 um

Speaker 1 and not not nothing based off their own name yeah it would be generic like it would be something that happened or like something like

Speaker 1 calling them like what a pimp would call his girls like yeah it could be in case i forget your name babe honey buns yeah like yeah i like to say what's cooking good looking i like i actually like my name being used ooh like i like being called paige say every fucking syllable of my name, including the silent H at the end.

Speaker 1 When Dez says my name fully, I'm like, okay, stop learning. You're literally obsessed with me.
No. No, like, you literally just.
Something really like, were you trying to like make love?

Speaker 1 Like, why don't you chill the fuck out? When you be dying,

Speaker 1 it's so intense.

Speaker 1 Well, yeah, then Dez will say hand sometimes. But we actually are similar.
We have names that, like, you can't shorten. I know.
Like, there is no nickname for our names. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So it's like, but here's the thing. My name, and I've said this for years and no one has ever like agreed with me

Speaker 1 or like,

Speaker 1 or been like, I see where you're coming from. If you say my name fast, Paige, it can also sound like if you say the word bitch fast, it sounds like Paige.

Speaker 1 Because I've been in so many situations where I'm like, did you just call me a bitch? And they're like, I said Paige. And I'm like,

Speaker 1 I don't think you did.

Speaker 1 I don't think you did. I do have to say, if they want to frankinbite it,

Speaker 1 it looks the same off the lip. Paige.
Paige, page, page.

Speaker 1 Pitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, page, pitch, bitch, bitch, page, bitch.

Speaker 1 So, and I. Everyone's, your mom called you a bitch.
100%. And then the doctor thought it was Paige and wrote it down.

Speaker 1 You know, when you have a sibling and like you're too lazy to say their name like, like, fully? So, like, my brother's name's Daniel, but I always called him Denil

Speaker 1 or I thought you were gonna say Dan, but that was like

Speaker 1 God no

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Speaker 1 Wait, what else did you watch this weekend? Oh, there was like a new Netflix show called I like caught up on my stuff. Okay.
Oh, so you're being private about it.

Speaker 1 She's like, how about none of your damn fucking business? Wait.

Speaker 1 She's like, my mom will always call me and I'm like, okay, you got to go. I'm going to watch my shows.
And she's like, what shows? And I'm like, you don't know them.

Speaker 1 She's like, that's why I'm asking.

Speaker 1 No, my mom

Speaker 1 convinced herself that she has the same taste and shows as you. So whenever you watch something, she watches it.
She's like a No, we talk about shows a lot because you guys like period pieces.

Speaker 1 You think we love a period piece? Okay, then I'm gonna bring it up. Wait, did you see?

Speaker 1 Sorry.

Speaker 1 Okay, I just took so much courage to say the last sentence.

Speaker 1 What did I see?

Speaker 1 What is he? Literally, my boyfriend, Brandon Skellner, which no,

Speaker 1 get his name. Yeah, what is his name? Sklardner.

Speaker 1 I said it wrong on the part. On the part.
I told you.

Speaker 1 on the pod i heard like a brendan skellner skellner has a girlfriend like knew like just got one i don't know i didn't once i saw a girlfriend i honestly didn't look into it he heard you talking about him on the pod and he was like i have a girlfriend

Speaker 1 no i was like wow what interesting time and we haven't heard one thing about a girlfriend i say one goddamn word and it's like a whole article how i met my girlfriend on tinder i was like oh fuck off tinder i don't know i made that up it could have been something totally different well i'm sorry about that Thanks.

Speaker 1 It's a tough way to start the week, for sure. For sure.
It seems like an attack on you. That was like when

Speaker 1 Charlie Pooth got married to make me jealous. I was like, we got it.
That was crazy. He took the bit too far.
He took it so far. I was like, I don't even follow you anymore.

Speaker 1 Like, how is he even going to see that? Like, no, I didn't even see it.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 I'm

Speaker 1 beyond about this documentary on Hulu that you told me to watch. Ruby Frankie.
No.

Speaker 1 Not to be confused with Anne Frank.

Speaker 1 Ruby Frankie. No,

Speaker 1 here's the craziest part. Prior to her getting arrested,

Speaker 1 I

Speaker 1 had never gotten like, I'm not a YouTube girly, really. So like, I don't really know people that are like very big on YouTube.

Speaker 1 And I really don't know, obviously, like families that are big on YouTube.

Speaker 1 But on my TikTok algorithm, I would say like a couple months prior to her getting arrested, I kept getting fed like a a lot of their videos and people being like, Oh, this is like a really interesting tactic, like as a mom.

Speaker 1 And like the comments would be like, No, she's been crazy for years, or like, I've watched them for whatever. Like, no, she's just like tough love, whatever.

Speaker 1 So, I like kept getting those, so I knew who they were, and then she got arrested. So, I've been like so in it and obsessed.
Well, let's first say what it is: she turned lesbian with that woman.

Speaker 1 Okay, well,

Speaker 1 mic drop

Speaker 1 Because I think that's

Speaker 1 literally the plot of Mulholland Drive. No, I'm just kidding.
So this is the thing. It is such a more complex story than just, I thought it was just a mommy vlogger gone crazy.
No.

Speaker 1 She's not just like a mean mom. I mean, I think she is.
Yeah. But let's be honest.
There's Mormonism. Mormonism and brainwashing.
Mormonism, brainwashing. So she started off.
The husband?

Speaker 1 Well, he was interviewed the whole time. The husband has something mental he he loves the embarrassment the pain no it was like the listening to him tell the story i was just like he like enjoyed it

Speaker 1 okay let's call this what it is you're not normal either sir if anything

Speaker 1 scariest one here okay

Speaker 1 this is terrifying

Speaker 1 like a normal person who should be ashamed slip into the night my guy like i also you should be arrested too yeah you should be arrested too Well, stop acting like the father just was absent and had no idea of the family thing.

Speaker 1 Like, he knows the kid was sleeping.

Speaker 1 You knew that your kids didn't get Christmas gifts. A jail.
Yeah. Immediate jail time.
Yeah. So I'm only episode two in it.
I'm only episode two. Oh, okay.
So you gave some stuff away already.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 her whole thing was she didn't even like care about money. She wanted to be America's mom.
She loved the fame. And then she would go so far as...
America's mom, you didn't feed them.

Speaker 1 You literally, that's the number one thing about being a mom, just feeding us. I'm obsessed with influencer culture where like what's going on behind the scenes and

Speaker 1 what's incredible about this documentary is they gave like hundreds of thousands of minutes of footage of her filming herself, which by the way, on my deathbed, delete the drafts in my home.

Speaker 1 They have all the videos that like weren't posted. Like the things that were edited out, they play.

Speaker 1 And I'm saying, just based on my embarrassment of me, like trying to say something and fucking it up, like that's right, right, right. Right.
She literally

Speaker 1 talking and you're like, I'm filming something. Yeah.
Like, yeah. You fumble a word, you're trying to get it right.
Like, that's so embarrassing. She has all that.

Speaker 1 Plus, she's like, kids next door, shut the fuck up. Yeah.
Right fucking now. Or you better sound happy in this conversation.

Speaker 1 Did you notice how her daughter referred to her with their first name as Ruby?

Speaker 1 And then like the son, one of the sons, is so cute, and she realized that he was like the reason they were getting so many views because he was like so cute.

Speaker 1 And then he also, these kids just became teenagers. They basically were like, Mom, I want to play with my friends.
I don't have hours of YouTube video brand deals with you.

Speaker 1 And she was like, He's possessed, like, he's gone crazy. Um, so it's a combination of religious stuff, brainwashing from this therapist, and just it's a complicated tale of abuse.
It's so crazy. And,

Speaker 1 you know, like when I was watching it, one of the things was like, I was like, oh my God, I feel so bad for the younger kids. Like, they got the brunt of her like psychosis craziness.

Speaker 1 But then I was like, wait. I actually feel the worst for the older kids because they could remember what their mom was like normal.

Speaker 1 And like the oldest daughter, like, had like, like, started crying about something, obviously, but she just said, like, this is not my mom like this is not the mom I grew up with yeah so that alone like imagine one day your mom just like isn't who she's been her whole life and you're just like wait what

Speaker 1 well the whole concept of filming your kids and you see it a lot like people get i think addicted to they put the phone on their kid and they immediately get likes so they think oh my god i want likes who gives a fuck i'll keep filming my kid no i said that daphne was never gonna be on instagram two days in i'm like she's a runway mom she's a dsw DSW brandy in stores.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, you want to go to school? You have to pay for it. And at one point, the kids are like, I don't want to film.
And she's like, I'll give you $10 if you film.

Speaker 1 There are laws in California now that say something like, if

Speaker 1 your kid has to get a certain percentage. Child labor laws.
Yeah. Which, as there should be.
Well, because think about all those years ago, like when

Speaker 1 kids started, like Shirley Temple. Yes.

Speaker 1 Like starting and making those famous kids who never saw a dime. Yes.
Like literally were broke at the end of working their whole childhood. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'd also argue that it's like Shia LaBeouf, like his family always took his money and shit.

Speaker 1 I do have to say there's something to be said about kids doing chores and kids having a goal and stuff, but have having kids have like a full career is not healthier to their development.

Speaker 1 I'm going to be so honest. A couple days ago, I got a call and they're like, Daphne booked a pretty big campaign.
And I was like, oh my God, god, this is so crazy.

Speaker 1 I feel like Abby Lee Miller, like one of my dancers, is a star.

Speaker 1 And I said to my agent on the phone, I said, Do I have to create her an LLC? Like, I don't want to take

Speaker 1 it.

Speaker 1 How are we getting paid for this? And my agent was like, no, it's an animal.

Speaker 1 The money can go to you, Paige. I was like, oh, you're getting one of these crazy bitches that is like, Paige leaves her entire estate to die.

Speaker 1 And your kids are going to be like, what the fuck?

Speaker 1 She'll do fucking killing. You want to know something? That's funny and like not true, but funny.

Speaker 1 Those types of people, I want to shoot them.

Speaker 1 No, when I hear, like, oh, celebrity dies and left entire estate to ex-wife, or like celebrity dies and like donates it all and has five kids, I would, he's lucky he died because I would have fucking fucking killed him if I was his child.

Speaker 1 I think that is like the rudest, most disrespectful thing. Some of these celebs hate their like nepo spring, their nepo-spoiled offspring.
So it's like a fucking thing, fine. Donate to charity.

Speaker 1 They didn't ask to be there. Donate to charity, though.
Like if you're not going to give it to your kids.

Speaker 1 If my dad was a billionaire and he died and he left it all to charity, I'm showing up at that charity.

Speaker 1 Suddenly,

Speaker 1 the name of the charity is called Paige de Sorbo.

Speaker 1 No, that I just like never understand that. It's like, okay, yeah, donate some to charity, amazing, but to not give any to your children, I can't.
I watch a lot of, you know, celebrity documentaries.

Speaker 1 I think some of them who are self-made feel like they want their kids to work hard like they did and not just have tens of money. I couldn't have a more different mindset.

Speaker 1 I want my child to not even know

Speaker 1 a thing.

Speaker 1 Like literally not a thing. I don't want them to struggle for a minute.
Um, yeah. No, I mean, I do.
I want them to build character. But anyway, but like, I like that.

Speaker 1 I feel like that is why you work hard, though. It's like, oh, I want to give you a better life than I had.
Speaking of kids going through adversity,

Speaker 1 I saw this on Instagram. Someone said, you know, when you're a kid and you have to sharpen your pencil? Yeah.
So you'd get up to the garbage and you'd just like sharpen it and it feels kind of nice.

Speaker 1 And you'd also get to

Speaker 1 take a break.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's a version of a cigarette break as a kid. I was the queen of taking a break.

Speaker 1 The pencil sharpener wasn't enough for me. I was like, ooh, still too stimulating.
You guys are all here. I was at the nurse's office.
The nurse knew me. Okay.

Speaker 1 It's so funny because now you deal with me. Paige will literally be like, this hurts, this hurts.
And I go, you're going on stage, Maitreya. I'm not your fucking nurse anymore.

Speaker 1 I'd walk into the nurse's office and she'd say, what is it today, Paige? I'd say, well, I don't know.

Speaker 1 We walk into the green. I'd like to get a slight tingle in my throat.
Better call my mommy. You know, I feel like my past life with my children died of cholera is coming forward today.

Speaker 1 No, I'd literally go to the nurse's office, and the nurse would say, Why don't we just call your mom, talk to her for a few minutes, and see how you feel? And I'd be like, That sounds nice.

Speaker 1 I'd literally go to the nurse's office in the middle of the day, call my mom, see what she was up to, tell her I love her. She'd say, You can finish the rest of the day, and I'd say, Fine.

Speaker 1 And I would go back to school. I needed like a midday pep talk, okay? It's hard to hear.
So real.

Speaker 1 So real.

Speaker 1 Let kids call their mom during school. What was the harm in it? Would you be like a jail where they have a row of telephones?

Speaker 1 You're getting a call from PS321 during the middle of the day. Mom, I can't do it anymore in this place.

Speaker 1 Into prison. No, I always think about kids that get sent away to like wilderness camp, like, and they like write home, like, please pick us up.
Like, we hate it.

Speaker 1 Like, I think about that all the time like i so would have done that um no my my brother like wrote a my brother was like you like he was always in the nurse's office and he at one point went to camp first day was like nope not doing this wrote this like insane

Speaker 1 email the camp had to call my parents to warn them about because they read all the mail yeah which illegal yeah and they're so invasive and they were like you're gonna get a really disturbing message from your son but

Speaker 1 But this was like a week later and they go, but he's actually doing great right now. So you could kind of disregard that.

Speaker 1 Wait, that's so funny. My mother was like, I will not say it.

Speaker 1 Then they called my parents because they were like, a piece of,

Speaker 1 there was some contraband.

Speaker 1 that someone

Speaker 1 got into the cabins and it was a Playboy that someone brought and we just need to warn you. And my dad was like, thank you for letting us know I hope our son's gonna be okay

Speaker 1 they were like 15

Speaker 1 wait

Speaker 1 that's so crazy the evolution of porn how crazy kids had to bring magazines no does joked you used to have to go online and print out a photo of boobs

Speaker 1 Did you not? I had a friend once who got in trouble when we were young because he was printing out a photo of boobs.

Speaker 1 No, I never like porn was never in my like zeitgeist.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like it wasn't in my middle school, high school, zeitgeist. Like, I just went to an all-girls Catholic school school school.
Yeah, we never, it never came up.

Speaker 1 You went to an all-girls Catholic school. The amount of shame you guys had about even like talking.
Did you have sex Ed?

Speaker 1 Barely. They were like, if a guy was like, they were like, listen to these 50 cent lyrics.
How dare he? And I'm like, this is a fucking banger. What are you guys talking about?

Speaker 1 No, we like barely had it. But we did have like religion class that was like, if you have a baby out of wedlock, you're a whore.
Did you ever have a condom class where they took the banana?

Speaker 1 Too intense for an all-girls Catholic school. No, that's

Speaker 1 they basically said condoms exist for whores. You should know about them.

Speaker 1 But if you ever thought

Speaker 1 about stopping God's children from being born. Meanwhile, how many of the girls were getting abortions?

Speaker 1 Tens upon tens of hundreds. And like the one girl that did the like religious thing and kept her baby, they were like, you're expelled.
You fucking slut.

Speaker 1 get out of here no it was crazy it was like no what an what an insane what a time what a time what a time

Speaker 1 actually i have to go speak at my high school

Speaker 1 i'm just saying we

Speaker 1 speaking of celebrities and money

Speaker 1 did you this is actually a good segue of whores did you see

Speaker 1 whores getting money the best whore in the world kim kardashian yeah Did you see Chris Humphreys?

Speaker 1 Like, there's something happened with the engagement ring. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I did see that. She said that how she paid for her engagement ring and he

Speaker 1 asked for it back. Yes.

Speaker 1 So Chris Humphreys only paid for a fifth of the engagement ring, but then he wanted it back. That's not how business works, pal.

Speaker 1 Not how business works, but it was probably that he was probably being such a dick during that divorce that he was like, Well, give me the ring, and she was like, Fine, like, yeah, just leave me alone, but also, like, what are you gonna do?

Speaker 1 Like, pawn it off,

Speaker 1 yeah, also

Speaker 1 at this point. I'd rather like keep your one-fifth, let me pay for the whole ring.
Why do you need to pay for a fifth of it?

Speaker 1 Right, she probably did that for him to feel he probably, it's almost more embarrassing that he can only put in a little bit. I'd rather just be like, You can't do it, at least let me have my ring.

Speaker 1 Okay, what are your thoughts on if I were to get married?

Speaker 1 Why is that funny? You know, why is that funny?

Speaker 1 If I fell in love with a man,

Speaker 1 Christian. If I were to give a man a chance.
Yep. No.

Speaker 1 If a man were to come correct once,

Speaker 1 just once. If I were to fall in love with like a broke man.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Which honestly i love for you no maybe that's what i need because if he's broke that means he's so good on so many other things except for except for basic living needs yeah basic living needs and also that's not even the point

Speaker 1 that's a point we're getting we're getting sidetracked but then no atmosphere if i were

Speaker 1 we're so good at manifesting on the podgy like nip it nip it in the butt if i were to fall in love with a broke man but i loved the fuck out of him and i wanted to marry him and like this was my person yeah and he said that he couldn't afford the engagement ring that I specifically wanted.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because it's insane what you're going to ask for. I don't think anyone can afford the ring that you want.
There's someone out there.

Speaker 1 A Princeton

Speaker 1 out there.

Speaker 1 I actually, for how like

Speaker 1 for how traditional I am, I think, in relationships, that actually wouldn't bother me to buy my own ring because I knew it's something I wanted.

Speaker 1 Now, him being broke in general would probably bother me more than me buying my own ring. My question: you're in a relationship

Speaker 1 and you're doing well. Okay, yeah.
And you decide, I want this house and he's like on the fence about it, but you're like, I can buy it. I'm going to buy it.
And I want to buy our house. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Would you buy it? And then it's your asset, you know?

Speaker 1 Like, it's your investment. I'm not even putting his name down.
No. Oh.

Speaker 1 I mean, you can't. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Hell yeah.

Speaker 1 Hell yeah. He's like, this is my house, bitch.
I was saying, the second you get married, you like, obviously you could put your name on everything, but like, you can buy what you want.

Speaker 1 Like, cause you could live two lives. Why make money if you are still waiting on him to buy you stuff? Honestly, it only matters if we were to get divorced.

Speaker 1 Cause if we were to get the divorce, houses in my name automatically goes to me. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But.

Speaker 1 Like if because I'm just saying ring or house.

Speaker 1 I'm saying what if you guys you're looking at a house and you know if I put more of my money in we could get a nicer house would you do that yeah yeah 100

Speaker 1 it's kind of but the ring is such a romantic gesture

Speaker 1 yeah but also if you

Speaker 1 if you care a lot about what other people think of the size of your ring yeah and he's not

Speaker 1 hitting it then

Speaker 1 you need then you might want to add some buffer to it I'll add a buffer would you tell people if you added a buffer no because I feel like that would make him feel insecure yeah would I tell him at night time when it's just the two of us?

Speaker 1 Hell yeah. Would I bring it up every day? Every time we fought? Fuck yeah.

Speaker 1 When I was giving birth to his children and be like, what have you done at all? You couldn't even get a full fucking. This ring I fucking had to get for myself and my blood sweat.
Tears.

Speaker 1 Someone was joking online about like if your husband murdered someone,

Speaker 1 would you throw them under the bus? And they were like, no.

Speaker 1 But every time we got, like I wanted him to do something, I'd be like, you better go hand me the remote in the the other room or I'm gonna make a phone call. I'm a big fan of blackmail.

Speaker 1 I'm gonna make a phone call. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And it's on speed dial. Yeah, it's like I would hold it over his phone.
Remember speed dial?

Speaker 1 Wait. That's like, I feel like you had it saved in the like telephone

Speaker 1 in like real home phones. Yeah, so like you'd press one.
I might have just made a phone. I don't remember that.
These two are not helpful for this. Yeah.
They have no idea what's going on.

Speaker 1 One other thing about relationships

Speaker 1 that was was actually, I learned from Detroiters, which you all should watch. Watch the first episode.
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Speaker 1 They said when you're in a relationship,

Speaker 1 you have to feel like that person enables your star factor. And I really liked that.

Speaker 1 I really like that because there's a lot of like, oh,

Speaker 1 you know, only one person could be a star, whatever. I feel like you should bring out the star in each other.

Speaker 1 I've realized that, like, if you want to be a better person

Speaker 1 for that person, person,

Speaker 1 like, that's a good sign. Like, I've never wanted to, like, improve something about myself.

Speaker 1 Or you find yourself actually getting worse. Yeah, because I'm like, I don't have to improve anything because I'm so much better than you.
It's like, you need time to catch off.

Speaker 1 Or yeah, you're not improving because you're so busy trying to improve them that you actually haven't even like focused on yourself at all.

Speaker 1 So I know, like, I'm in a healthy relationship when I'm like, wait. When you check yourself.
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Speaker 1 I pulled my back out last week. Doing Pilates? Yeah.
Like in the midst of the class, you were like, something, something's not right.

Speaker 1 In the midst of the class, I think I had too much adrenaline and I didn't realize it, but I was doing a move very wrong for way too long.

Speaker 1 Like, you know, it's like you do everything for like three three minutes. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I was two and a half minutes in and the lady was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, how did you even get your body in this way?

Speaker 1 But I'm not going to, I'm not going to point fingers copying the girl in front of me. Yeah.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Someone check on her back as well because we're both not doing well. Girl, if you're listening to the pod, hit me up.
We can ice packs together.

Speaker 1 That's literally being in middle school and you both failed the test. It's like who cheated on who? We don't know.
Because I'm just going on what she's doing. Because sometimes, whatever.

Speaker 1 But long story short, she should have caught it earlier. And it was on her.
And I'm like, look, listen, no one did anything. I never did anything wrong.
Everyone did everything else wrong.

Speaker 1 But I was doing this like crazy twisting move and I was bending during the twist and you're supposed to stand during the twist. Whatever.
I fucked it up. I'm not of the age where I just snap back.
No.

Speaker 1 I, and obviously, after Pilates, what do you think I did all day? Sat with, in a weird position watching,

Speaker 1 watching Detroiters for the next eight hours. So I got up and I immediately was like, I pulled my back out.
Do you want to know the last time that happened happened to me? I got a cat. So watch out.

Speaker 1 Oh, don't tempt me. Don't tempt me.
But

Speaker 1 I googled it and they were like, the one thing you shouldn't do if you've pulled your back is like sit in the same position for too long. And I was like, well, that's the only thing you can do.

Speaker 1 So what if you've already done that?

Speaker 1 I was like, it's too late for me. And I had already pressured Grace the next morning to do pull out another homie.
Yeah, while you've done it to yourself.

Speaker 1 So I wake up in the morning and not only am I fighting my own demons, but I have sweet, sweet Grace who looks forward to this with me.

Speaker 1 It's like pretty much, she doesn't have a lot of other things going on. We are, she has so much, she's up to here with work.
It is the highlight of her day. Yeah, I make a couple jokes.

Speaker 1 Let me get a good stretch in. She's laughing because it's true.
Yeah, I'm making jokes.

Speaker 1 Whenever it's a hard exercise, I look over at her and we have a moment together. It's really quite, it's so funny.
She's like, I love my job. I love my job.
I love my job.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 this was like literally me being being insane. And I'm going to pull it up.
So I send her a long voice note.

Speaker 1 Grace? Yes. Hasn't she endured enough?

Speaker 1 After the fact, after the class, you're like, let me follow up with her.

Speaker 1 No, before the class, I send her a whole thing. I'm like, I am so sorry to ruin your day.
I'm not going to be able to make it to class today. I pulled my backup.
Oh, okay. So she goes, OMG, Godspeed.

Speaker 1 We'll miss you.

Speaker 1 Looking back at it now, I think she just said it to say it. But when I saw it, I go, oh my God,

Speaker 1 she's going to miss me. Yeah.
Get it together. Is she going to be okay to be in the class by her? So then I'm like, I can, Hannah, just go.

Speaker 1 Because I started Googling, can you do Pilates with a bad back? And they were like, oh, Pilai's is actually good for a bad back. And I'm like, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 People at Google are ever like, no, you fucking idiot.

Speaker 1 It literally says, if you have a bad back, Pilai's can help. And I go, so I'm going back to the source of the pain.

Speaker 1 So then I go, okay, well, maybe I'm being a little bitch and I should just go and it'll help my back. So I respond to her.
I go, actually, never mind. I'll go.
She goes, okay.

Speaker 1 I go, thank you.

Speaker 1 Why did you say thank you?

Speaker 1 Ten minutes later, I go, actually, my back hurts too much. Never mind.
Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 Because I stood up and I was like, no. You know what's hurting now? Grace's fucking head.
Okay, her brain. So this is at 11.15.

Speaker 1 11.16. I go, JK, coming.

Speaker 1 No. What time was the class? 11.30.
So like, I have to leave.

Speaker 1 So she goes, someone is at war with their brain.

Speaker 1 Someone is at war with their brain this morning.

Speaker 1 And then the best part is after that, I go, JK, can't.

Speaker 1 JK can't. And then she goes, rest.
And I'm like, why didn't you say rest in the beginning? Because I would have just rested, but instead I felt like I was ruining your fucking day. So again, Grace.

Speaker 1 Oh my God.

Speaker 1 Anyway, I should not have put her through that, but I was fighting for my life because I kept being like, am I being a pussy? Yeah.

Speaker 1 So now how's your back? Great. I need that day off.

Speaker 1 I really need that day off.

Speaker 1 Honestly, it made

Speaker 1 so much of a difference.

Speaker 1 You literally, and here's the thing about when you hurt yourself, you don't realize it until that moment that you're getting older and that you don't bounce back and until you're not bouncing back.

Speaker 1 Until it's too late and you can't feed your own cat because as you bend down to give her water. Yeah, and you get like frustrated at yourself, you're like, no, be healed now.
No, 100%.

Speaker 1 Even like going to Pilates, like this past week, I like ate the healthiest I've eaten in like years. And I went to Pilates and I looked in the mirror and I was like, where are the results?

Speaker 1 You do not snap back.

Speaker 1 You just don't snap back. I tell you, all I had to take was a sturdy shit in my 20s and I was like, okay, snap.
No. Snap.
Truly. To the heavens.
Truly. Speaking of body shaming,

Speaker 1 did I ever tell you what my nickname was? Like

Speaker 1 through

Speaker 1 high school into college?

Speaker 1 No. Quadzilla.
What? Quadzilla. Hannah.

Speaker 1 Which

Speaker 1 is funny. That's why I'm funny.
I'm on my own grave. That's why I'm funny.
That's why I have a good personality.

Speaker 1 I had huge, I still, they're not as strong, but I used to have like, my quads were like what is a quad

Speaker 1 it's like above your knee like my quads were so strong the muscles were like bulging over my kneecaps so like your thighs like i could squat like insane amounts and i was really fast on the court and like literally like hot guys would be like stop quadzilla

Speaker 1 I'm like, sorry, I'm just like frightening about it.

Speaker 1 They're just like not creative, you know, just like not a good nickname. Quadzilla.
No, the kids were so lazy with it, and it stuck.

Speaker 1 See, before that, I was called Elf Ears. So it was kind of, honestly, at least it was powerful in a way.

Speaker 1 At least you thought of Christmas and joy. Quadzilla.

Speaker 1 Christmas and joy. That's crazy behavior.
And like, I couldn't tell if like they thought my legs were like cute or not. I don't.

Speaker 1 But I told you, I'll always have guys being like, hey, what do you do for those calves? Like, they want my like calf workout.

Speaker 1 No, Anna, you're stronger. You are so strong.
Because if someone asked me, a man specifically said, what do you do for your calf workouts? I'd

Speaker 1 no men look at me like a horse. They like check my teeth.
They're like, why are men always trying to like treat you like you're they're breeding?

Speaker 1 Yeah, and they're like, what's your vert?

Speaker 1 What? They're like, do you want to race?

Speaker 1 Men always get so oddly competitive with you.

Speaker 1 What is that? That's why.

Speaker 1 I wonder if it's just like the energy you give off immediately. I did start thriving in college, though, because division one babies were like a topic.
Okay. So like a lot of the athletes would...

Speaker 1 you know, be courting women. Yeah.
And then they'd see me. Yeah.
And they just smell a Nike sponsorship for their child, like immediately. Like, yeah, you could go with the sorority girl.

Speaker 1 You can't fucking walk in a straight line. Or I could fucking throw a football 100 yards.

Speaker 1 What do you want for our child? Do you want your child to dunk? Right. With these calves.
And if, yeah. So it's just like a matter of what kind of DNA you want.
Wow. But a lot of these things.

Speaker 1 No, I will say no one's ever come up to me and said, like, hey, our kids might be athletic. If anything, they're like, I think you'll have a gay son.

Speaker 1 Gay son, who, let's just say, could palm a basketball with your fingers.

Speaker 1 I'm talking about my unborn gay son because he's fabulous.

Speaker 1 Wait, do you think your son's going to be gay? I don't know. You want it so bad.

Speaker 1 I think that if, like, I, if I always, if I had all boys at, well, one, I'd actually like go to church for so many days in a row and be like, what did I?

Speaker 1 Where did I mess up? And like, if one of them is not gay,

Speaker 1 God is really trying to teach me something. I have heard that, like,

Speaker 1 you've been cracking me up on the road about the boy moms joke

Speaker 1 which like we're not doing anymore can we please do it yeah so I found a photo of Paige dressed up like

Speaker 1 just like the pinnacle of what you like when you picture a boy mom like picking her son up from practice and like her son's name is like tanner tucker

Speaker 1 something crazy xylophones

Speaker 1 he you have like flannel on and you have your knee-high knee-high boots and like you have your Starbucks order that was so complicated and unnecessary.

Speaker 1 And like the weather isn't conducive for a beanie, but she's wearing a

Speaker 1 part of your look because it is false. It's part of her allure.
Yes. And like she just gives that like her oldest, Trenton,

Speaker 1 she loves him the most and like everyone knows she loves him the most and she like writes him notes in his lunchbox that like

Speaker 1 Nobody's gonna ever love you the way mommy loves you. Like his little girlfriend, she like refers to her as little girlfriend, you know? And she also like wants to fuck him.

Speaker 1 Let me show this outfit page is like, this is an outfit of a boy mom who wants to fuck her eldest son. And that is so real.
It's so real.

Speaker 1 I might think you having a daughter would be too powerful, the alliance you guys would have. Maybe.

Speaker 1 Once, honestly, Daphne did something over the weekend with a dog.

Speaker 2 Actually, let me just tell the gates.

Speaker 1 Tell them. So Daphne was in the same vicinity as a dog this weekend.
And I was really nervous about it. So I was like, oh, I'm going to put gates up.
And like, she can't.

Speaker 1 I don't need her anywhere near this dog. Obviously, in true, like

Speaker 1 cat fashion.

Speaker 1 I turn my head for a minute and I'm like, where the fuck's a cat?

Speaker 1 I see her standing on like a like a thing of stairs, staring at this dog. This dog is.

Speaker 1 backed up into a corner crying. Okay.
Daphne's literally like far away from him too, like maybe like 30 feet away from this dog.

Speaker 1 She's just sitting on the stairs looking at this dog, licking her paw, just being like unfazed, unfazed. Like, this is my house now, bitch.
Like, I don't.

Speaker 1 And in that moment, I was like, I, you're my biological daughter. You don't give a fuck about a boy.
That's my baby.

Speaker 1 Like, that's my, so like, the thought of like watching my daughter do something that's like against the patriarchy.

Speaker 1 No, it's too powerful. I'll cry.
I'm so proud of of her.

Speaker 1 So she wasn't even like hissing or anything. She literally was just like, look at this.
She literally looked at the dog. I almost felt like she looked at the dog, looked at me, and was like, okay.

Speaker 1 That was the energy she was giving to me. I'm obsessed with her so much.
We had a Zoom recently where both Butter and Daphne were on the Zoom. Yeah.
And so they kind of met. They did.

Speaker 1 They didn't make eye contact, but like.

Speaker 1 But they were like, they're on a work call together. Yeah, they were like, if you guys don't leave us anything after you die.

Speaker 1 Divorce.

Speaker 1 Jessica Simpson has new music inspired from her divorce. Have you seen it? Wait.

Speaker 1 Jessica Simpson? Jessica Simpson. Yeah.
Oh, I forgot she was. She was with a hockey player, so we knew that was going to happen.
Yeah. Oh, he was? I think so.
I don't think so. Let's see.

Speaker 1 Can we Google who Jessica Simpson? I think you're getting her Simpson's ex was.

Speaker 1 Are you thinking Carrie Underwood?

Speaker 1 It's possible. it's possible was he a businessman or was he I think he was a businessman well he had a blockhead

Speaker 1 and what is a businessman you know again

Speaker 1 something men made up yeah

Speaker 1 what is I think he's a football player oh football oh football even worse arguably the same um so he like cheated I guess okay so she's she's back doing music which it makes it's interesting it's like he leaves she's back doing what she's passionate about also the hate that woman got.

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 no, I have it burned in my brain the outfit she was wearing, denim, uh, flare jeans with a leopard belt and a white t-shirt. And they were like, this woman is huge.

Speaker 1 Well, yeah, they weight-shamed her, but also they shamed her voice, which, like, I'm sorry. Like,

Speaker 1 can you guys sing better?

Speaker 1 Jessica Simpson. Can you guys sing better? Then shut the fuck up.
Also, I loved her voice. She's got the last laugh now.

Speaker 1 I think she's a legit billionaire. Good.
From her Jessica Simpson line. Her shoe line, like her line.
Yeah, she's really

Speaker 1 incredible. But it looks like she's back.

Speaker 1 First time she performed in like years. So shout out to her.
I'm proud of her.

Speaker 1 I'm so proud of her. I've been seeing this thing on TikTok, and I'm going to try and do it.
This is. Oh,

Speaker 1 let me update the gigglers on my face masks this weekend. I did.

Speaker 1 Two face masks. One was a Medicube.
I'll put it in the newsletter. I was obsessed with it.
I love it.

Speaker 1 And then I've been seeing this thing on TikTok where it's like, how to stay more present, like in your everyday life, which is something I'm really trying to work on.

Speaker 1 Like staying present in the moment that we're in, you know, like not letting my mind wander and then I'm having like a fake fight with someone in my brain. I'm like, how'd we get?

Speaker 1 And then four hours later, yeah, I'm like, well, I won.

Speaker 1 But it's called a color walk. And basically you go out on a walk and you pick a color.

Speaker 1 And then every time you see that color, like you note it in your head, like, okay, red stop sign, like red awning, red car.

Speaker 1 Sounds like a kid game. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Are you sure it wasn't like for parents whose kids were being annoying on walks?

Speaker 1 I spy with my little eyes. Wow.
Now that I think about it, me and my mom played ISPY on the freaking time.

Speaker 1 Every time we got in the doctor's office, she was like, okay, let's play.

Speaker 1 I just caught on now. That's what they say, though, when you're having a panic attack, attack, to like look at something and say, like,

Speaker 1 the color, the smell, whatever. You know how it is.
Well, I'm glad that you're really connecting to colors right now. I'm really connecting to like nature, trying to get my 10k steps in.

Speaker 1 Wait, why does this make me like more worried for your well-being?

Speaker 1 With what are you searching for that you don't have right now? The husband.

Speaker 1 You dabble in and out of being like, if I have to see a man. I do have to say, though,

Speaker 1 it just takes one man.

Speaker 1 And for everyone listening, we joke about decentering. We don't joke.
It's very serious decentering, but

Speaker 1 you want to de-center while finding that one person. No, I'm also like just being like funny and sarcastic.
My REM has never been better.

Speaker 1 I mean, my skin has been better, but like, you know, like when you have like things you want to do that you're like, oh, I really want to do those, but like, I just never have time.

Speaker 1 And unless like, oh, once I have like a full Sunday off, like, I'll do all those things. I've been been doing all those things.
Wait, I'm so proud of you.

Speaker 1 Are you ever worried that you're going to clog all your pores with too many masks? Okay, first of all, have you been texting my mom?

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 are you drowning yourself?

Speaker 1 Well, okay, I'm dealing with four pimples right now. So like

Speaker 1 be easy on me. I've been sending her memes

Speaker 1 of her pimples personalities in just different things personified.

Speaker 1 Usually my route is like, I'm going to dry the fuck out of my skin. I'm going to dry this pimple right up.

Speaker 1 But this weekend I went and did the opposite and I hydrated my skin like a thousand times more than I ever would and my skin actually my pimples did get better.

Speaker 1 I'm still like because sometimes when you're dry I feel like it adds more oils which can clog it more.

Speaker 1 Like I kind of made that up but like no I mean it sounds right but I didn't I also do feel like pimples have a natural life cycle that sometimes you just have to let them live. Yeah.

Speaker 1 The best thing that I use again I'll put it in the newsletter is my like light zapper to like stop an active pimple. No, it really truly does work it like shocks the bacteria

Speaker 1 wait till you read the newsletter this morning what is the spray that you use for like um

Speaker 1 for weeds roundup oh she goes i use my roundup and i give it a little spritz

Speaker 1 honestly

Speaker 1 that is something i would do i do have to say this was the first weekend we had free in like forever yeah and i was really battling demons though because i would like be like oh my god this feels so good and then like four hours in i'd be like am i depressed and then i'd be like no, we're enjoying ourselves.

Speaker 1 No, I would like put things on my list and be like, if I have this free day, like I might as well get this done. And I had to like act.

Speaker 1 And that's how I felt like I was, I've crossed over into adulthood. I had to actively be like, no, relax, rest.
See, resting is huge. But I feel guilty.

Speaker 1 No, resting is so important, which we learned from my back earlier in this episode.

Speaker 1 I've not become a full adult yet because my mom called me and was like, you haven't been to the gynecologist in years.

Speaker 1 And I was like, I go, well, Well, I don't have a gynecologist, and no one set me up with one. And she was like, That's not how it works.
So I went on Zock Doc.

Speaker 1 And this is the thing: Zock Doc for gyno is wild, wild. But I found, I honestly liked her energy from her photo.
You have to go on vibes because there's nothing else on Zock Doc to go by.

Speaker 1 Who do I, whose forearm do I want in my pussy? Yeah, so she was cute, she seemed nice because you're never going male

Speaker 1 except for my dead body. I'm freezing my eggs.
My doctor is a a guy, and I'm fine with it. He's made me fine with it.
I don't remember being so quick, though.

Speaker 1 She literally just like in and out, shoved it, felt up my boobs.

Speaker 1 I do have a lipoma.

Speaker 1 I have like a big fat cell on the side. Tell them about it.

Speaker 1 Have you seen it? Of course I have. No, I have like a huge fat globule.
You have to go to a dermatologist and get that taken out?

Speaker 1 I just searched on ZocDoc lipoma doctor and I just set up an appointment. So we'll see what happens.
Okay, this is really important to me specifically.

Speaker 1 I either need a full video of them taking that out of you or I need to come with you. This is

Speaker 1 a super bowl. No, but this is my problem is that I want to go in and be like, can you cut it out? Thank you.
Where I think it's like going to be a whole thing.

Speaker 1 Sometimes I watch videos and it's sister lipoma and you have to guess. And I love those videos.
Really? Yeah. Okay, how do they get the lipoma out? They literally chop it off.

Speaker 1 Okay, well, do you think somebody would do it the first time? Because I really don't want to go back and forth like 100 times. No, I think you're going to have to go in for a consultation first.

Speaker 1 They're not just going to meet you and say, let's chop your skin off. What if I just give them a 20 and I'm like, can you just

Speaker 1 freeze this off, huh? There's like different, anyway, it's growing. And honestly, like the summer's coming.
And I just...

Speaker 1 I need it off. I need it off.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Come on.
Yeah. So, but she said it's not breast cancer.
So I just want to let you guys know. Oh, good.

Speaker 1 I didn't even know that was something that. It's just like, it's close to to my boob.
Got it. Okay.
Wow, the pod has gotten crazy loud. We went in so many different directions.
Who even knows?

Speaker 1 Honestly, and the final thing, final celeb I want to bring up, who I've honestly

Speaker 1 never respected more. And she gets torn apart for everything she does.
Yeah. Taylor Swift.
What'd she do? She was paparazzied.

Speaker 1 with Travis Kelsey

Speaker 1 and the back of her hair. A mess? A complete mess.
Not her business.

Speaker 1 None of her business.

Speaker 1 The woman is a businesswoman. The back of her hair, not important.
It's starting to make me realize, like, the gag has been on us the whole time.

Speaker 1 Like, I think she loves people being like, her style's not great, whatever is great. Because she's like, I'm a billionaire.
Yeah. And I still do whatever the fuck I want.

Speaker 1 And I'm not going to conform to whatever societal pressure you think a female celebrity should be.

Speaker 1 And her walking on the state where she knew was going to get photographed and her hair being a damn mess mess in the back. Yeah, she didn't want to go to dinner.

Speaker 1 She literally, that's a woman who was on the couch and was like, Do we, do we have to?

Speaker 1 She thought she was going to get out of it. Yeah, she thought she was going to get out of it.

Speaker 1 She was like, She was like, It's windy outside. Have you seen the wind? I don't know if the roads got canceled.

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Speaker 1 Anyway, yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm trying to think of something. Also, I have shows in Albany this weekend.
Are you coming? Oh, yeah. When? Thursday, Friday, Saturday? Do you want to come Thursday? Yeah.
We'll talk about it.

Speaker 1 But I also just announced shows in New Haven, Connecticut, Providence, Rhode Island, Brooks, California, Highland, California, Richville, Connecticut, Red Bank, New Jersey, and West Hampton Beach.

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Speaker 1 I'm so excited. Paige is going to see my new hour this week.
Give me notes. I'm so excited for it.
She might actually do her own 10 minutes with somebody. I'm not doing that ever.

Speaker 1 I quote Paige DeSorbo. She said, I would never stand for that long.
I couldn't. I'd pass out.

Speaker 1 Literally, I've been watching your Amazon Live sometimes when I miss you. I have to say.
You're doing full stand-up.

Speaker 1 You're doing full stand-up. You're doing full stand-up.

Speaker 1 Literally, I was like kicking my legs. I was like,

Speaker 1 we love you guys so much. Thank you for giggling.
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