Giggling about radio city, Molly-Mae, and anti-cuffing season

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Speaker 2 Sup, gigglers.

Speaker 1 Harriet, fix your Wi-Fi.

Speaker 2 Manifest that shit.

Speaker 1 We can't be managed.

Speaker 1 I mean the day just got away from me.

Speaker 2 Hello my Radio City gigglers. Even if you weren't here this last week, we felt you.

Speaker 1 At Radio City. No, literally.

Speaker 2 We were basically the Raquettes if they had an attitude problem.

Speaker 2 If they were very grumpy and didn't like to to actually go to the gym.

Speaker 1 We are. We are out of shape raquettes.

Speaker 2 Yeah. The raquettes never left their bed and just send each other memes all day.

Speaker 2 Dude, shout out to the rotates.

Speaker 1 Shout out. I love them.
You want to know what? I've never seen the raquettes ever, and I feel like that's so not page-coded.

Speaker 2 That's so not page-coded. I saw the raquettes.
And it's funny when you're younger, you literally are like...

Speaker 2 They just seem like Barbie dolls. Also, you're dying.
You're like sick.

Speaker 1 I actually think I have bronchitis.

Speaker 2 Can you spell bronchitis?

Speaker 2 There's an H.

Speaker 1 Then no.

Speaker 2 Once there's an H thrown, you're like,

Speaker 2 you got me.

Speaker 1 A silent H? Get the fuck out of here. No.
I don't do silent H's.

Speaker 2 Quick, okay, highlights of Radio City. I'll start.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 2 Or you start.

Speaker 1 My favorite moment by far, beyond it doesn't compare to anything, is when me and you, by ourselves, walked out onto the stage at like five o'clock before any before the doors opened i

Speaker 1 i instantly started crying which is so not i got so overwhelmed by looking out into like the empty crowd and standing on that stage that i instantly couldn't hold it in and paige never cries so i was like that meme where like you're holding like a broom and you start tapping your friend to be like are you feeling better like and then i was like hugging you but then i was like does she need space?

Speaker 2 Like,

Speaker 2 but yeah, you, I also think like you'd been holding it in a bit, yeah.

Speaker 2 And you know, when you start crying over something, but then it keeps going, and you're like, Okay, you just tripped. You had one

Speaker 2 life is so difficult.

Speaker 1 I think it's also for us, like, I feel like, not to sound like sappy or whatever, I feel like when we started Giggly Squad, even up into, up until we started our tour, there was so much noise about like,

Speaker 2 oh, Giggly Squad is stupid, and like, what do they even do? And, like, oh, and they just like talk to each other and they think they're so cool.

Speaker 2 And like, okay, that's literally just from men, but continue.

Speaker 1 No, that's no, that's what I mean. Like, to have someone in your ear constantly of being like, oh, what is this tour? And, like,

Speaker 1 do you really think you're gonna like blah, blah, blah, whatever?

Speaker 1 To stand in that moment and just be like, suck my dick.

Speaker 2 We're so Sicilian.

Speaker 1 We're so

Speaker 2 Sicilian.

Speaker 1 You used Jojo Siwa karma.

Speaker 2 Wait, okay. So I get this video of me doing the worm slow-mo, and I was like, this, I have to post this.

Speaker 1 It writes itself. It writes it.

Speaker 2 It writes itself. But then I was like, I was like, do I do a Glorylla? Do I do Frank Sinatra? I went through all of them.
And then I just funny clicked JoJo Siwa.

Speaker 2 And I was like, wait, why is this fucking perfection?

Speaker 2 But this is for all those people out there who might be going through something or you feel like you've been wronged in a way or people are out to get to you.

Speaker 2 First of all, if people are out to get to you, that means you're shining. That means they're trying to dim a light that you have.

Speaker 2 You might not see the light, but they see it, and that's why they're trying to dim it. And if you keep working hard, you will rise above it all, motherfuckers.

Speaker 1 No, my enemies have been working fucking overtime. I actually don't know where they find the hours.
I'm like, TikTok's back. Why don't you take a breather?

Speaker 2 Take a fucking minute.

Speaker 2 I just have to say, what happened with TikTok?

Speaker 2 Was that not TikTok just being like,

Speaker 2 gotcha? No.

Speaker 1 TikTok is a giggler. It literally came back.
I was just like, gotcha.

Speaker 2 Gotcha. But okay, why? I know people love trends,

Speaker 2 but when everyone was just like revealing secrets, and I actually wrote a couple,

Speaker 2 what was that trend? Why are people acting like the world was going to end? I'm like, guys,

Speaker 2 why are we acting like this is the last time we're going to see you ever and we're all going off the face of the earth?

Speaker 1 Here's why I have a small circle of friends, and it's because I truly don't believe that anyone like gets me as a person.

Speaker 1 Some of the information these bitches were putting out, you'd have to waterboard out of me.

Speaker 2 I wrote some of my favorite ones. First of all,

Speaker 2 it came out that like this influencer who's everyone's paying a lot of money for her glute workouts has a BBL.

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 2 No way. That's a lot of them.
That's a lot of them. It's giving Legally Blonde when she was like, I was getting lipuls suctioned.

Speaker 2 I was getting lip suction.

Speaker 2 That it's the same thing, and girls are all upset. Then a girl who does workouts was like, I want to let you guys know I wasn't doing any of the workouts.
It's like,

Speaker 2 and then a girl who her whole thing was making coffee every day was like, I've never drank the coffee. No way, that's fucking hilarious.
And then

Speaker 2 she was a coffee influencer.

Speaker 2 And then some of the girls were like, yeah, I've been on Ozempic.

Speaker 1 I liked those ones.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I loved those.

Speaker 2 I felt like it was a time for people to,

Speaker 2 it felt like the Titanic where we're all about to get off and you're like, anyone want to say anything? Like, anyone get anything off their chest?

Speaker 2 And then the Titanic didn't sink.

Speaker 1 They were like, oh, wait, actually, we found a life raft. And you're like, okay.

Speaker 1 You know, the Sebastian Man Escalco skit where like his, I think it's the name of one of his specials where he's just like, aren't you embarrassed?

Speaker 1 Like, when people were crying and then it came back, I was like, aren't you embarrassed? Like, delete it.

Speaker 2 When it was gone for a night, well, first of all, everyone freaked out because they did it early, which was fucked up.

Speaker 2 Like, don't say it's going down on Sunday and then it goes down early and everyone was probably like enjoying their last couple moments. But

Speaker 2 let's be honest, people low-key had the most freeing couple hours of their life.

Speaker 1 No, I started. When it came back, I actually felt like, oh my God, I'm like trapped by social media.
Like, even if you get away from it, it's like it's people are still on their channel. Yes.

Speaker 2 Yeah. It's like when Instagram goes down or even like COVID, we all for a second were like, oh, well, I'm not feeling guilty for not like going outside because no one's going outside.

Speaker 2 That's how I felt. But people were posting the funniest TikToks when I came back.
Someone was like, I had so much fun learning about who my kids are last night.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, I saw a bunch of women being like, decided to get to know my husband last night.

Speaker 2 He's pretty cool.

Speaker 2 I actually started reading. I learned how to read yesterday.

Speaker 1 No, there was a moment when like that Sunday when I was like, oh, it's going down tonight that I was like, maybe I'll start puzzling.

Speaker 2 Maybe I'll get a hobby. Well, I was like, should I become a painter?

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 I think it was beautiful, but also like so many people are able to monetize it.

Speaker 1 And yeah, I mean, that part is like, I'm so happy for like the small business people who have like their whole lives have changed. Like, that's,

Speaker 1 but they're hustlers, so they would have like hustled someone else.

Speaker 2 They would have figured it out.

Speaker 1 Like, I, like, if you started a small business and were able to quit your corporate job and like live, you're a fucking hustler, and I'm proud of you.

Speaker 2 I just want us to all keep our eyes open. Like, I am just worried about like who's in power and why, and, like, what algorithm they're trying to push on us.

Speaker 2 But hopefully, it just helps us all get that bag and be entertained, whatever you do.

Speaker 2 One more thing about the Gigglers. When I feel like we're performing for the Gigglers, I don't feel like it's like we're the stars and they're like fans.

Speaker 1 No, I felt like we all made it.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but also like in the crowd, like they're like joking back at us. Yeah.
Which is like the comments. No.

Speaker 1 So many girls in the front were saying comments that then I repeated into the microphone because it was fucking hilarious.

Speaker 2 They're fucking they're in it with us. It felt like a big crazy brunch.

Speaker 2 And then we did a Q ⁇ A at the end, and this girl raises her hand and she's like, can I come on stage?

Speaker 2 Paige was like, do you have a gun? Like, there's like, there has to be some more context to this.

Speaker 1 No, also, there is never any security at Giggly Squad because I don't think the men at the theater know what's about to go down.

Speaker 2 So like. We've had security straight up be like, if something did go down, I can't take on 6,000 girls.
Yeah. And we're like, what do you want me to do? We need to tackle a girl?

Speaker 2 We're not going to let you touch her. Don't fucking touch her.
So then she's like, can I just go on stage and show you something?

Speaker 2 And in that moment, I'm like, okay, she's a giggler. Like, we let her do anything.
Yeah, do whatever you want. Do whatever you want.

Speaker 2 So she goes on stage and we start, we're like, are you doing the worm? Like, what are you doing? And she's like, just watch, just watch. She does like a raquette kick down into a split.

Speaker 2 She was perfect. The whole crowd loses their mind.
And I'm like, wait, all of you could be on stage right now.

Speaker 2 It was like a talent show for the Giggler.

Speaker 1 No, it's so crazy. One girl posted and it really just,

Speaker 1 I just felt like such a feminist icon. It made me so proud of us.
She was like, Giggly squad is proof that women do not dress for men.

Speaker 1 There is not a man in sight at Giggly Squad unless he is a taken boyfriend. And if that's the case, we're not fucking looking at him.

Speaker 1 So the girls coming in their outfits, I was just so proud to be a girl. Also, New York York City, the girls can dress, honey.
Like they looked so fucking good.

Speaker 2 The girls, it's so funny too, who's dressing for you and who's dressing for me. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And it's to the point that like I feel bad complimenting a girl who's clearly so page-coated because I almost feel like she'll be insulted if I think her outfit's cute.

Speaker 1 No, the ties and like the bows, it was just...

Speaker 1 You know where you are.

Speaker 2 It was a perfect synergy.

Speaker 1 Radio City truly felt like the new house of Scientology, you know?

Speaker 2 No. Well, someone said something like, TikTok is the new TV.

Speaker 2 Movies, like watching a movie on TV is like the new movie theater.

Speaker 2 And then movie theaters are like the new concerts.

Speaker 2 And then concerts are like a full cult meeting. Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, we had we started a cult. We low-key started a cult.

Speaker 2 Joel Olstein for hot girls.

Speaker 1 It's crazy. We started on Instagram Live with like 3,000 girls.

Speaker 2 See, that's why when people be talking shit about Instagram, I'm like, look, we're going to be able to. Put some respect on it.

Speaker 2 Put some respect on Instagram Lives during COVID for keeping us afloat during our dark, dark demonstration.

Speaker 1 What a time to be alive that was.

Speaker 2 What a time to be alive. Also, I do have to say, I used to think that like straight guys should come on.

Speaker 2 come to Giggly Squad if they were smart because it's just all like the hottest smartest girls who funniest girls girls most successful girls in every city like come together that in a show but then I realized the girls by the end of the show want to stone a man

Speaker 2 like it's actually unsafe for them

Speaker 1 no I feel like the empowerment when you leave a giggly squad show you're like I can fucking do anything like I truly feel like the next president of the United States was in the crowd, you know, and she was wearing a tie.

Speaker 1 You know, like

Speaker 2 the the gigglers in the male bathroom,

Speaker 2 and then there'd be like a dude in the bathroom, and they literally beat his ass to be like, Get out of here, it's for the girl.

Speaker 1 One of my girlfriends came to the show, and her boyfriend after the show was like, You know, I was in the men's bathroom and I was uncomfortable. Should I not be in there?

Speaker 1 I was like, No, get the fuck out of there, hold it.

Speaker 2 No, and now you know how it feels to be a woman 24/7 in this earth.

Speaker 1 He was like, The line was crazy. I'm like, Well, that's where we make friends, okay?

Speaker 2 Um, so my dad actually

Speaker 2 could not come to Radio City because he had COVID. Who knew that that was a thing in 2025? And like, he got it bad.
Like, he was out for the count.

Speaker 1 He was down bad.

Speaker 2 So I down, down, bad. So I call him.
Yes. No, he called me, humble brag, which we joke about like when your dad calls you,

Speaker 2 two things are happening.

Speaker 1 He didn't mean to. It was a butt dial or your entire family is dead.

Speaker 2 So I was worried.

Speaker 2 He goes, hey, I'm so proud of you. I saw the photos.
You guys looked amazing. I'm really excited for your book to come out.
And I was like, what? Like, that's in April. What are you talking about?

Speaker 2 And he goes, my mom, he goes, your mom sent me like a copy of the final book.

Speaker 2 And I read it all weekend. And I was like, wait, what? And he goes, it's the best book I ever read.

Speaker 2 I was like, what? And he goes, no,

Speaker 2 he goes, I feel so inspired, but I was laughing. He goes, this book is going to be amazing.
And I'm like, dad, we didn't even get a quote from you on the back of the book.

Speaker 2 I didn't even know you knew we had a book coming out. Wait,

Speaker 1 can I add that

Speaker 1 we literally set up a play date with our dads and I felt like

Speaker 1 I felt like your dad would, I felt like my dad was being like, can I have a sleepover with Danny? Or like, is that okay?

Speaker 1 You know, like, when my dad heard that your dad wasn't coming to Radio City, my dad's whole night was ruined.

Speaker 2 He was like, wait, what? He was so upset. And when I said COVID, he thought I was lying.
And then my dad goes, call him. My dad goes, how's Gary? And I was like, Gary's great.

Speaker 2 And he goes, could I text him? Like, is that weird? And I'm like, I don't even know if Gary has a, if Kim lets Gary have a phone.

Speaker 1 Well, I know what's so funny is my dad doesn't have an email address.

Speaker 2 See, that's the energy I was getting, bro.

Speaker 1 That's the energy my dad gives. The energy my father father gives is, I don't know, ask him, like, why the fuck would I have an email address?

Speaker 2 Why are all moms so much better with technology than dads? Like, my mom has Facebook, Instagram. She knows how to get to know that.
Because women put in the time.

Speaker 1 They put in the time to learn

Speaker 1 what they don't know.

Speaker 2 Because men wanted to be the 50s still when they still were in power. So they're not updating anything.

Speaker 2 I love that he doesn't have an email.

Speaker 1 No, we truly have the epitome of girl dads.

Speaker 2 Yeah. My dad,

Speaker 2 remember at the Knicks game, we took a photo and I was like, okay, I'll post it on your Instagram for you. And he goes, put it in an Insta story.

Speaker 2 And I was like, you don't want to put me on your grid? And he's like, no, I like to see who's looking at it. And I was like.

Speaker 1 My mom thanked me the other day for putting

Speaker 2 her on my grid.

Speaker 1 She was like, that was really sweet of you. I was like, oh my God, I'm obsessed with you guys.

Speaker 2 Well, I'm glad one of our parents

Speaker 2 wants to be on someone's grid. No, my dad straight up was like, do not put our photo on my grid.
I don't want that. It's going to ruin my grid.
Oh, aesthetic.

Speaker 1 Okay. Wait, speaking of grids, what do you think about Instagram changing the length of the photo?

Speaker 2 That threw me.

Speaker 1 It threw me. And everything's like shifted to the left.

Speaker 2 We organize it. Yeah, it's not done.
I feel like they're like in the middle of something, but it's like,

Speaker 2 we put it as a square. So when you make it longer.
also, no, I don't know what's look

Speaker 2 again, we never like change and then social media is like going through it right now.

Speaker 1 Social media is like Mercury in retrograde, they're like trying to figure out their path, yeah.

Speaker 2 And like, I support it, it's just do you remember when we got so upset about Insta stories? Like, we lost our mind. We were like, this is Snapchat, this is just Snapchat, like we were so mad.

Speaker 1 Wait, for the longest, I like couldn't put music on my grid or my stories. I just got it fixed right before Radio City.
Thank God.

Speaker 2 Thank God.

Speaker 2 We both went differently. I did Frank Sinatra old school, and you went, like, Cameron?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I went old school rap Cameron. So, Paige is back in her music era.

Speaker 1 Sure am.

Speaker 2 And one thing we don't tell the gigglers, which is, I forgot, because I don't think you listened to music for like... four years, which was disturbing.

Speaker 2 Which we should have checked on that.

Speaker 2 You were like, it was too loud up here.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I was like, there's so much noise in my brain, I couldn't actually think about listening to someone else.

Speaker 2 One thing about me and you is we love

Speaker 2 hardcore, pussy-popping, misogynistic, offensive, fucked-up rap.

Speaker 2 Like, we were getting our makeup done, and I was like, let's put music on.

Speaker 1 At one point, I think your mom was like, oh, I don't know.

Speaker 1 is this getting you guys pumped up

Speaker 2 i was like actually in the most female empowering green room like so powerful and i'm like put on some rap about fucking bitches and and stripping getting money yeah getting money um we we do have the same taste in music i told someone they were like oh what's like your walkout song and i was like actually it's like a sap rocky like fucking problems and they were like problems they were like wait really

Speaker 1 like i would have thought you guys would have had something like poppier or like girlier like a female rapper and i was like i don't know it was the first ever song from the very first live we ever did and we've never changed it because it is just such a fucking vibe

Speaker 1 and i feel like when we're walking out it's like we're saying to the girls in the crowd like you're a bad bitch like yes I love bad bitches.

Speaker 2 That's my fucking problem. And yeah, I like the fuck.
I got a fucking problem. That's some empowering shit that we have taken.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, I've taken that. Whatever, ASAP Rocky is married to the girl.

Speaker 2 He's a girl's girl.

Speaker 1 One of the most feminist bitches on the planet who is like an icon runs shit. So, like, if he, if anyone knows, it's him.

Speaker 2 So, my new walkout song, because I've been doing fucking problems forever, for my nude stand-up, I'm coming up with ASAP Ferg. I don't know what's going on with the ASAPs.

Speaker 1 We love an ASAP.

Speaker 2 I don't know the history of the ASAP, and it's with the money signal, but I'm doing new levels. So I come out going, I'm on a new level.

Speaker 2 I'm on a new level.

Speaker 2 Put these in the dark. Chain me with a new bezel.

Speaker 1 You know what's crazy? It's like,

Speaker 1 I can't, I have zero rhythm. I can't even dance.

Speaker 2 I feel like you're the kind of dancer that, like, every now and then you can.

Speaker 1 Every now and then, if it hits me, I can do it. But if I think about it too much, I can't.

Speaker 2 Like, if someone watched you for an extended period of time, they'd be like, this is horrible but like in a 10 second Insta story they'd be like oh she's kind of a good dancer she's just holding me back right now yeah that's the energy I want to give I want to I want you to wonder is she a good dancer or not yeah like is she a good dancer depending to be a bad dancer right is she a good dancer but she's just drunk right now yeah that's the energy we want to give

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Speaker 2 i was with um caroline banowitz this other weekend starting my new material shows and um she's one of my gen z best friends She considers me Gen Z. I've never asked her, but I assume.
Right.

Speaker 2 There was one of those moments where I realized I was older than her.

Speaker 1 Stop. Oh my God.
Those are so humbling. What was yours?

Speaker 2 It was, it was humbling. Oh, my God.
Oh, I'm going to gag. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Like, it's just weird because

Speaker 2 we're both Gen Z. So

Speaker 2 we, an Ashley Simpson song comes on because I was doing my Angry Woman playlist and I was like, I fucking love this song. And she's like, it's so good.
And I go, oh, I miss her old nose.

Speaker 2 And she goes, what?

Speaker 2 Pardon? And I was like, Ashley Simpson's old nose before she got a nose job. And she goes, Ashley Simpson got a nose job?

Speaker 1 My Ashley Simpson is brunette on SNL lip syncing. That's my Ashley Simpson.

Speaker 2 That is the only Ashley Simpson I've ever known and ever will know. And I don't accept this new, this new Ashley Simpson is AI, okay? And she's like, she had a nose job.

Speaker 2 And I go, and so you're showing her the photos. And she's like, oh my God, she's so cute.
And I'm like,

Speaker 2 were you three?

Speaker 1 Hello?

Speaker 1 Ashley Simpson has been that bitch. She will always be that bitch.
She's that bitch.

Speaker 1 She, one of the one things I love about Ashley Simpson is that, like,

Speaker 1 had a career, awesome, amazing. Everyone loved her.
And then she was just like, fuck it, I'm getting married and like having kids and doing whatever the fuck I want. And like loves her husband.

Speaker 2 She got so much backlash.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 from that SNL night.

Speaker 2 Where it's like nowadays, I don't

Speaker 1 people just wanted to hate on her because one, they they were mad that she like got a career from her sister. Which, like, if you're the older sister and you're a megastar,

Speaker 1 what the fuck else are you going to do but help your sister out?

Speaker 2 It's not like she was copying her sister. She was a completely different vibe of like punk and way different anger and badass and baggy jeans and grunge.
And like, it was so great.

Speaker 1 Two things that stick in my head about like that time of life is Ashley Simpson getting berated from SNL and them calling Jessica Simpson fat when she was a size six.

Speaker 2 Jessica Simpson is getting separated from her husband.

Speaker 1 It's breakup season. So is Jessica Alba.
So is Kaya Gerber.

Speaker 2 So is Rachel from the Bachelor.

Speaker 1 Something's in the air and women are like, hey,

Speaker 2 you know what?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 Gary, can you get me a water?

Speaker 2 And an oxygen tank.

Speaker 1 And an oxygen mask.

Speaker 2 I do think that

Speaker 2 I'm kind of loving this breakup season because normally this should be cuffing season, but I feel like for the girls, they're like, it's winter, and I actually just want to watch murder documentaries and fart on my own.

Speaker 2 And I don't need someone to cuddle with. Cuddling overrated.

Speaker 1 Just get out of the way.

Speaker 2 Like, summer is fun. You're hooking up, you're tan, you're making out with guys.
Winter, don't fucking touch me, okay?

Speaker 1 No, like, I want to be wrapped in my sweatpants in a fur blanket with my fuzzy socks. And if you're also under my same blanket, I'm going to get hot.
And I don't want to get hot.

Speaker 1 You know, like Like, I've the perfect temperature right now. Get your freaking sweaty balls away from me.

Speaker 2 Do you know in certain other countries and cultures, partners have their own duvets?

Speaker 1 And that's nice.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I don't know why we're for, I mean, the whole sleeping in the same bed thing.

Speaker 1 I'm so down to have separate bedrooms with my husband, but like sleep in the same bed at night.

Speaker 1 Like, I'm so down to go to his bedroom at night and sleep and then like keep my room pristine and and like my stuff.

Speaker 1 I think that should be more normalized. Like, we have separate rooms, but like, if we want to sleep in the same bed every night, like, we can, but like, I'm gonna go back to my room in the morning.

Speaker 1 Also, like, I feel like that sounds like spicy. Like,

Speaker 1 yes, you know, like, miss me.

Speaker 2 Do you want to sleep with me tonight? And it's like, I don't know. We'll see.
I might come in later.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like, like, I'm gonna watch my shows first, and then, like, maybe I'll come in. Like, you can, like, change your pajamas, be a whole new bitch.

Speaker 2 Or you can lock the door and put a chair in front of it and say, bend for your fucking self.

Speaker 2 I told you, during my naughty years, in my early 20s, when I was dating the guy Craig from Craigslist and we were hiding our.

Speaker 1 Which I feel like just doesn't get talked about enough.

Speaker 2 It doesn't get talked about enough. But we, and we didn't want the other roommates to know we were hooking up.

Speaker 2 We would be the last to be watching TV together.

Speaker 2 on like separate couches just happened to both be watching a show yeah and then we'd go into his room and then at like 4 or 5 a.m i'd go back to my room and then in the morning i'd pretend i was like so grossed out and annoyed by him in front of the other roommates like he's making oatmeal again ill no

Speaker 1 girl and oscar no it's it's so fun to like have a little

Speaker 2 will they won't they you know yeah will they won't they i'm trying to think what i what i do with des is i fall asleep on the couch and he's like i'm going to bed can you please come in soon and then i lie to him and i'm like i'm literally right behind you.

Speaker 2 And then obviously I get a second wind and suddenly I need to scroll every single app and then I need to like start a Molly Mae documentary and then I come in at 2 a.m. and wake him up.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Accidentally. Let's talk about the Molly May.
Let's get to it.

Speaker 2 Let's get to it.

Speaker 2 I watched all three episodes last night for you. Yeah.
Same. And I'm a fan, but I knew that we were going to discuss.

Speaker 1 The way I loved her prior to this documentary, there's something about, here's the thing.

Speaker 2 What do you think is the Molly Mae effect?

Speaker 1 Here's what I'm going to say. When you see certain people on TV or on Instagram or on TikTok and you see these influencers, there are a handful.

Speaker 1 Now, there's a lot of people that can get a lot of followers, go viral, say something crazy, get a little like traction.

Speaker 1 There are a handful of people that when you see them on a screen, you feel it in your soul of like, they have something. Like, they have some it factor.
They have some type of star quality.

Speaker 1 You can't pinpoint it, but you're like, they make me feel a different way than just like scrolling all these influencers. Molly Mae is one of those people where she just has this spark, this like.

Speaker 1 She's a star type of thing. Like when she appeared on the screen on Love Island, I didn't know that she was like a famous influencer in England.

Speaker 1 She had had some, she had followers, but she was nowhere as famous as she is now. When she walked into that villa, I was like, she's a star.

Speaker 1 I don't give a fuck about any other girl in this house, but her. And she was full blonde.
And that's usually not my type.

Speaker 1 And I was like, I love her.

Speaker 2 And that was a season, the first season me and you ever watched together during the COVID season of Summer House when we were trying to stay in bed because whenever we left, we'd have to fight with people.

Speaker 2 So we were just trying to watch a little bit of time.

Speaker 1 We were trying to stay in our damn lane.

Speaker 2 Look, we tried. We tried to stay in our own lane.
People don't know we were trying.

Speaker 2 i said let's learn some english slang that'll keep us occupied but you know what is molly may is very page coded where like

Speaker 2 i didn't feel that connection to her okay like you immediately were like at outfits everything where i was like everything i was like i like her but i cute girls yeah i wasn't i think also

Speaker 2 Yeah, we me me and Paige are different with like

Speaker 1 people that

Speaker 2 we've never been obsessed with the same people.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 Oh my God. No, we haven't.

Speaker 1 No. We don't have the same.
Okay, we don't have the same like favorite celebrities and we don't have the same like favorite male celebrities.

Speaker 2 We have complete opposite type of men and complete opposite type in women. No, like.

Speaker 1 Oh, we really do.

Speaker 2 When we meet people, like, we've never both been hyped up for someone.

Speaker 1 Hannah, no, we haven't. Like, actually, I specifically remember one time meeting someone and you being like, like, oh my God, I'm so obsessed.
And me being like, I feel like they don't really like me.

Speaker 1 Or like when someone comes up to me and you're like, oh, my God, Paige, we love you. And you're like, okay, well, that was weird.
I'm standing right here.

Speaker 1 Like, that does happen to us a lot, I feel like.

Speaker 2 All the time, actually, people will either be like obsessed with Paige or obsessed with me or like pretend to be obsessed with both of us. Yes.
And we're like, you don't have to pretend.

Speaker 1 We've accepted.

Speaker 2 Like, I feel like if we met Molly Mae, like, she'd be excited to see you. Yeah, I get that.

Speaker 1 No, I love her.

Speaker 2 But my thing with Molly Mae is she really reminded me of you in that this whole thing is one about her having a public relationship and then her dealing with backlash, whatever, and then her starting her own fashion brand.

Speaker 2 But what I loved about this documentary, which made me fuck with Molly Mae, is that a lot of these documentaries are like, uh, look at me, why I'm so amazing. Yeah.
This bitch cried the whole time.

Speaker 1 Cried the whole time.

Speaker 2 Cried the whole time, and like not like there were so many things that I'm like, they could have cut that out. Like, I and it wasn't even like, I don't know, just really fucking raw.

Speaker 1 I think another reason why I loved the documentary so much was like, after we did our beta blocker episode and after we did like our breakup episode, I had so many girls saying like the nicest things to me and they were like, no, you truly don't understand.

Speaker 1 Like, I feel really seen with the things you said. Molly Mae said so many things during that documentary that I was just like, holy shit.
Like I feel so fucking seen.

Speaker 1 Like, yeah, I fucking knew that wasn't my fault. Like that is

Speaker 1 just so many different things where I was like, damn, I went through that same thing or like I know how that feels, whatever.

Speaker 2 Like she was really showing behind the scenes. For example, she's launching her first

Speaker 1 fashion line.

Speaker 2 Fashion line, but she's doing her first event where people were gonna see it. And she's like, I haven't ever done like a live event meet and greet with people.

Speaker 2 and it shows her freaking the fuck out about every detail of it and like we've all been there where it's your name on it and like you feel like other people aren't caring about it like you care about it and you know you're the only one that gets backlash if it doesn't come out right and you're like you start just feeling like i'm fucked and her

Speaker 2 leaning into that her also saying how she takes like hundreds of thousands of pics and sometimes will just live up on the pic like there was so many of them

Speaker 1 remember when i was really obsessed with my grid and it was like literally putting me into like a

Speaker 2 ruining your life. No, I didn't even know.

Speaker 2 She even mentioned, she was like, girls like me because my fashion and my grid. And I was like, oh, I guess that.
I thought that was a thing you made up.

Speaker 1 No, my grid is like sweet words.

Speaker 2 Are you telling me you think people don't follow me because they see my grid and they're like, oh.

Speaker 1 Pages don't.

Speaker 2 I didn't know that the grid is that I'm thinking.

Speaker 1 I'll follow a bitch in fucking Siberia if I'm like, damn, her grid is aesthetic.

Speaker 2 What makes it just like just like similar colors?

Speaker 1 It makes me happy. Like, it's just like looking at it makes me happy.

Speaker 2 But like, can you explain what makes a grid aesthetic? Or it's like you can't put your finger on it.

Speaker 1 It just has to be like equal parts cohesive, but equal parts different and cool. And like...

Speaker 1 It's honestly a lot of pressure. Like,

Speaker 1 I really felt for Molly Mae. I was like, no, I get it.
Like, your grid is so important. It's also our creative outlet.
Like, it's what we see in our brain.

Speaker 1 And then to put out into the world of like, I think this picture looks really cool next to this picture. And like this outfit complements this outfit.

Speaker 1 And like I'm wearing red in this outfit and like a little bit of red in that one. So I'm going to put those pictures near each other because it looks pretty.

Speaker 2 Like it's almost like matching.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Imagine a guy's like, I was into Paige, but then I saw her grid and she had like yellow randomly on like the third row and I was like, I don't fuck with her.

Speaker 1 Okay, well that man is gay.

Speaker 2 One of my favorite scenes was this meet and greet where, first of all, it was not organized.

Speaker 2 Like, I don't know what they thought it would be, but they thought people would come in and casually like say hi to her. But clearly, like, every single person that went in wanted a photo with her.

Speaker 2 And she's being so nice, but you could see she's like doing hundreds of photos. And then it cuts to her hiding in the basement, crying, saying, no one's having fun.

Speaker 2 And I can't just sit here down here the whole time, but whenever I go up, it's awkward. And then she had to walk outside and just someone was like, hey, just tell everyone thanks for coming.

Speaker 2 She walks out, she says, thanks for coming, turns back, and she goes, that was so fucking awkward. And everyone hates me.

Speaker 2 Like, it was so funny because when you're a fan of someone, you don't see that side of it. That, like, they're feeling embarrassed.

Speaker 1 That's how I felt after my panic attack at Giggly. I was like, everyone hates this show.
They're never going to come. They think I'm bad at this.
Like, you really, you're in your own head.

Speaker 2 It reminded me of you.

Speaker 2 It reminded of you in terms of like our first meet and greets, Paige would get black out because she like couldn't do it.

Speaker 1 I was so nervous.

Speaker 2 And then you, because it was like meet and greets can be hard where every person, you want them to have the best experience.

Speaker 2 And if you think you had an awkward interaction with someone, which happens,

Speaker 2 you think you suck and then you start spiraling and then you think everyone hates you.

Speaker 1 I'm like, oh my God, that girl definitely hates me and is never going to listen to Giggly Squad again. Here's one thing I do want to point out that I found so,

Speaker 1 so empowering. I don't even know, whatever.

Speaker 1 Just like a fucking man, she was hitting the pinnacle of her career. Something she had been working on for three years.
No one even knew she was coming out with the fashion line.

Speaker 1 It's literally about to drop within those couple of months. She's so stressed about it.
She's been working on it for so long. Just like a fucking man to come in, fuck up her whole mental health.

Speaker 1 She's now got to deal with him and his fucking problems

Speaker 1 while simultaneously dealing with like launching this that she's been thinking about since she was a fucking child.

Speaker 1 And he just ruined it. He ruined it for her.
I think about it all the time. Not that this is related whatsoever, but when I watch the

Speaker 2 who are they?

Speaker 2 Jonas Brothers. The fighters.
No. Oh, Tyson.
Logan Paul. What's his name?

Speaker 1 Yeah, Jake Paul.

Speaker 2 Jake Paul, the one that that fought Mike Tyson.

Speaker 1 When I was watching his documentary, obviously, like, his girlfriend was in it because it was, like, whatever.

Speaker 1 When men do a documentary about something that they're like, it's their career, their girlfriend or significant other or whatever is always in the documentary about how much she supported him and how much, like, w what did she give up so that he could do that or like how did it impact her fucking day?

Speaker 1 Never touch on her fucking life.

Speaker 2 And that girl's like a professional skier or something.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that girl's a professional fucking athlete never touched on it didn't give a fuck

Speaker 1 we're here like when it's but when it's a woman it's so if that was a man if if jake or whatever the fuck his name is was doing his about to do that fight and his girlfriend went and fucked up his mental health or like cheated on him or did something they'd be like you are the devil how could you not fucking support him but when it's a woman and she's putting out a clothing line and a man wants to come in and act like, it's not that big a deal.

Speaker 1 Like, I'm going to hit you with some like real fucked up emotional shit. No one says anything.
No one says anything.

Speaker 1 Why is Tommy not getting so much fucking hate right now for like, you ruined her launch.

Speaker 2 You literally ruined it.

Speaker 1 I don't know, but I'd like to. Unless they're back together and that's a decision that she made and I support her.

Speaker 2 And we support it. I do think that the mom made an interesting statement or the sister where they were like,

Speaker 2 we support you being married to Tommy, but it's it's not going to be easy to marry Tommy.

Speaker 2 So if you wanna marry a famous man, you can, but you're gonna have to sacrifice a lot of happiness when that famous man has a drinking problem.

Speaker 1 One time my mom said to me, I think you would live a fine life. Do you wanna live a fine life?

Speaker 2 Ooh, ooh, ooh, Kim.

Speaker 2 Kim, come on.

Speaker 1 It's 10 a.m. Chill.

Speaker 2 I think we've all been in that position.

Speaker 2 I remember when I was in that position once where I found a man and I knew like I got some stuff from it for my ego, but I remember feeling like I was signing a deal with the devil and I didn't know what to do, but then my body didn't stop letting me eat.

Speaker 2 So that's how I knew.

Speaker 2 My body was physically rejecting him.

Speaker 1 She had hit her goal weight.

Speaker 1 But at what cost?

Speaker 2 But at what? I remember I ordered a sandwich and it was like we were working at my nine-to-five and I couldn't finish the sandwich, which was very out of character for me.

Speaker 2 And I was really paranoid that people were noticing. And then I remember being like, what the fuck is wrong with you? You hate this man.

Speaker 2 Get out of this relationship just because other people think he's cool.

Speaker 1 See, I know when that happens to me, when like I'm not genuinely an awkward person, but when I start being really awkward and like clumsy, I'm like, oh, my body doesn't like where we are or like what we're doing.

Speaker 1 Like I

Speaker 2 well, yeah, you almost, your body starts to like fall apart and your brain and body are like, you're not, it's out of being out of alignment.

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Speaker 1 No, but I'm just so obsessed with Molly Mae. I think she

Speaker 1 also just seems so sweet and genuine and like works really hard. And, you know, and you want to know the other thing? She didn't say a bad fucking thing about him.

Speaker 1 She did not say, she did not drag this man. She could have, she probably has got stories for days.
The only thing she said that I was just like, wow, when she said.

Speaker 1 Tommy doesn't have a drinking problem, but when he drinks, there are problems. And I begged him not to drink at my sister's wedding.
Oof, like that.

Speaker 1 oh my God, you must have been holding that in for so long and the shit that you probably dealt with behind closed doors to make sure that this man didn't get bad press or like because people would have inevitably came at you too.

Speaker 1 And you want to know what? If he did do some fucked up shit drinking, the press would have just been like, Molly, you're stupid for staying with him.

Speaker 1 But but then when you don't support it, it's like, oh my God, you couldn't like work through it. You couldn't help.

Speaker 2 And the drinking thing is crazy because they'll then be like, oh, I know I cheated, but it's because of my drinking problem.

Speaker 2 And it's the thing, you feel empathy because it's like this, that wasn't him. Like he has a drinking problem, but then you have to decide.
And look, this affects a lot of people.

Speaker 2 Drinking problems, not I personally don't know too much about it, but what I know is

Speaker 2 it's not what you will see in the movies always of a guy waking up with the shakes and then needs to have whiskey at 11 a.m. It's a majority of the time.

Speaker 2 And we joke about it as comics: that it's in your 20s, it's cute. In your 30s, you go, Do I have a problem? And this happens to a lot of people in your 30s, men and women.

Speaker 2 But if every time you or your partner or your friend drinks, some bad shit happens and they can't control it. That's a drinking problem.
There's problems when you drink. That's a drinking problem.

Speaker 2 And look,

Speaker 2 I'm saying this as a firm coach right now because

Speaker 1 you're also saying this as a wife of someone who is sober.

Speaker 2 Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 So, you know, so like that's like a big.

Speaker 2 Actually, you know what? I do have a little two cents because my husband's been sober since 19, he's 19 years old, and I've learned a little bit about that stuff.

Speaker 2 But there's a lot of people that the only thing between you and success in your life, and by success, I mean a loving family, healthy friendships, a healthy career.

Speaker 1 Sometimes alcohol is the one thing that's and I think that like our generation was kind of fed, oh, a drinking problem is you wake up every day.

Speaker 1 Your body can't function if there's not alcohol inside of it. I've met a ton of alcoholics that can go five days without drinking, but the minute they pick up a drink, it's absolute mayhem.

Speaker 1 And I'm going to be honest,

Speaker 1 he probably did so much shit to her that she never got over it.

Speaker 2 Well, she said she's like, I let him get away with a lot of shit. So we don't even know.
Yep. We don't even know.

Speaker 2 we don't even know what she's protected him from yeah and i mean as you can and then it's like it's in the public being like

Speaker 2 all the hate is going to her where she's probably sitting home being like you don't fucking if you knew half the shit this man has done to me like it's crazy i just feel bad for her we're in we've done reality tv where we see the like people doing things when they're drunk that are so fucked up like i've had stuff fucked up done to me and then the next day it doesn't count because they were drunk.

Speaker 2 But you

Speaker 2 don't forget what they said to you, don't forget what they did to you, but then you're the fucked up one because you're holding grudges when it's like, but they do this every weekend.

Speaker 2 But because I'm, I wasn't blackout, I have to forgive them.

Speaker 1 I'm gonna, let's take back the meaning of like holding grudges. You know what? If you did something fucked up to me two years ago and I never got over it, that's not my fault.

Speaker 1 That's literally not my fault.

Speaker 2 Let's call boundaries.

Speaker 1 You did something so insanely fucked up that like I wouldn't be able to get it out of my head unless I had a fucking lobotomy. So every time I look at you, I fucking think of it.

Speaker 2 That's why women were getting lobotomies in the 20s because men had prohibition getting blackout doing fucked up stuff to them and then would lobotomize them so they'd forget what they did. Truly.

Speaker 1 So I actually, I know Molly, Molly Mae said in the documentary, like, I'm trying to get through all of this in the hopes that me and Tommy get back together.

Speaker 1 And like, I want her to get whatever she wants. I really pray that she does not get back with him.
I hope she co-parents that beautiful baby with him.

Speaker 1 And I hope she meets someone who supports the fuck out of her.

Speaker 1 And like, also, Tommy, you're not your brother. Like, you don't have the career your brother does.

Speaker 1 Your wife makes more money than you. Maybe sit and chill for a fucking second.

Speaker 2 Wait, sorry. I'm laughing because I love how we started this conversation being like, whatever Molly wants to do is perfect.
And now we're like, if she gets back with that man,

Speaker 2 no one's a point. When she starts breaking down in the third episode, this isn't, okay, this is what happens.
So

Speaker 2 she goes,

Speaker 2 spoiler. It's because I spoiler.
Sorry. She does, she's like, I want to get back with him.
We all got that like, no, no,

Speaker 2 because you're watching it and you're watching how amazing she is. And then she's sitting there crying, not because of what's going on with her career, but because he's the stupid dipshit.

Speaker 1 He ruined, he ruined what you've worked your whole life for. He tried to ruin it.
He tried to ruin it. And I think as women, we sit back and we're like, he didn't mean to.

Speaker 1 He didn't know like what he was saying. He like, and we make such excuses.
He knew what he was doing. He wanted to ruin it for you.
He had no regard.

Speaker 1 That's why he got drunk at your sister's wedding, like, and fucked up whatever he fucked up.

Speaker 1 Like, he didn't care that you were about to go through all this turmoil simultaneously with the launch of your brand. He didn't give a shit.

Speaker 2 It is so interesting, though, if the roles were reversed.

Speaker 2 He would never take her back.

Speaker 1 Never. And if the roles were reversed and he was like coming out with some big thing and she went and like was it seen in a nightclub, everyone would be like, you're a whore.
How are you outside?

Speaker 1 How are you doing? Like, it's the double standard is crazy.

Speaker 2 Can I be so mean right now? Because. Because when I'm watching her and she's beautiful and she's smart and she's empathetic and she's an amazing mother and she's like, but he's great.

Speaker 2 It's like, I'm sorry. He's a CTE guy who chose to be on reality TV for attention.
Pretty looking guy who's been spoiled his whole fucking life. Nepo brother, not Ashley Simpson,

Speaker 2 not even as talented. And

Speaker 2 it's like, what, what makes him so? Because I don't really believe in my heart of hearts that their chemistry, like he's that funny and he's that smart and he's that caring.

Speaker 2 Cause if he was, he wouldn't have fucking embarrassed you.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he embarrassed you. He embarrassed you and then you had to pick up the pieces.
That's the thing.

Speaker 1 When a man embarrasses you and then you still get blamed and then you also have to pick up to pieces and fix it, fuck you. Like I'll never forget it.

Speaker 2 Look, I love a good-looking man. I've made very bad decisions based off of a jawline.

Speaker 2 But once you spend enough time with that good-looking man, you will see their character and their looks fade so fucking quick.

Speaker 1 So quick.

Speaker 2 I've like the ick you get, I almost get more icks when a guy's hot because I'm like, oh, you're not only you're lying, like you're trying to cover it up with these

Speaker 2 blue eyes or whatever, when you're actually the devil. And I don't want to be conned and be treated like shit.

Speaker 1 And be the less hot one. That's crazy.

Speaker 2 No, 100%.

Speaker 2 100%.

Speaker 2 So look, we're not Team Tommy right now.

Speaker 1 No, I'm just not. I'm Molly Mae all the way.

Speaker 2 And do I empathize with people who are struggling with addiction? 100%.

Speaker 2 But you know what I also didn't like? And she very

Speaker 2 subtly shows a scene in the beginning when they're in the hot tub, when they meet for the first ever time, and they're sitting in the hot tub. And she goes, do you like to drink? And he says no.

Speaker 2 And then looks at her and says, do you like to drink? And she goes, not me neither.

Speaker 2 You lied to her face the first time you hung out with her. I'm never forgetting that shit.
I'm out.

Speaker 1 Wait, can I tell you something? I feel like, in terms of dating, I truly feel, and this is like just based off my own

Speaker 1 experiences. And like, say whatever you want.
I truly feel like women do show you who they are from the jump. And that's why men like

Speaker 1 fall for them. Where like, I feel like you don't really truly see who a man is until, like, three to six months in, and then you're in it.

Speaker 1 And then you're fucking in it, and you're like, wait, did I miscalculate? Because I told him what I was like, and he was down.

Speaker 2 And he was showing you something. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And now all of a sudden, you've, you've completely changed.

Speaker 2 That's why they say with the right one, he knows first, but you don't. Yes.
Because you're looking at it logically.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's, yes.

Speaker 2 And the guy you fell for immediately was wrong for you

Speaker 2 100%.

Speaker 2 I mean, you were scrolling his Instagram and you're like, I'm going to marry that guy.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, fuck yeah. No, it's because like women truly like, I'm like, I want you to be the best version of you.
So I'll make that version up in my head. And then you realize they're not it.

Speaker 2 It was that quote we saw from TikTok earlier where men start at zero and we start at a hundred. So we, he has to disprove everything.
We believe in him and we have to show them everything.

Speaker 1 Honestly, my biggest example of that is like, I started dating someone, and I was already on reality TV. And then, like, halfway through, they were like, why do you do reality TV?

Speaker 1 And I'm like, wait, what? Like, you started dating me knowing this. Like, I told you what I do, who I am, this.

Speaker 1 I presented that to you, and you're like, fuck yeah, I love it. And then halfway in, you're like, I don't love it.
Change it. And it's like, that's crazy though.

Speaker 2 It also reminds me of like, men will not tell tell you who they are. They'll show you.
So him being like, I don't drink, but then you're black out all of Love Island or whatever. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I wasn't tracking his drinking.

Speaker 1 I don't have a drinking problem, but like

Speaker 1 doing the most fucked up shit is crazy behavior.

Speaker 2 And I do have to say, like.

Speaker 2 This is a little controversial. I love an addict.

Speaker 2 I don't know if I was an addict in a past life. I connect with them.
I've always, I've dated multiple addicts.

Speaker 1 Women are fixers. Women are fixers.
I've dated multiple addicts because I'm like, I'll help you.

Speaker 2 And I've, and I've, and I've done it. I will, I will solve all your problems that you've never been able to solve your whole life, but me, a non-professional, will figure it out.

Speaker 1 Stick with me, honey. I'll change it.

Speaker 2 Also, when you feel love from an addict, there is no stronger love.

Speaker 2 Once he decides you're his source, girl, that is the attention I want as a Leo. But then you realize, oh, this is not healthy.
And also, he's always going to choose his addiction over you.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 I'm definitely a fixer. And I like, someone come in and fix me.

Speaker 2 How about that?

Speaker 1 How about someone comes in and gives me some advice?

Speaker 2 But I also feel like the thing, a lot of girls, we like to be fixers because

Speaker 2 more maternal. There's more maternal, but there's also this like,

Speaker 2 if I focus on fixing him, I don't have to address like what I'm missing or what I want or any of those things, which is more complicated.

Speaker 2 I think that's why being single is so healthy because you get to learn like what you want, what you need.

Speaker 2 So when he comes in and starts having issues, instead of being like, that's a new project, so I don't have to focus on myself, you go, whoa, whoa, whoa. I have a project here called me.

Speaker 2 And if you're going to fuck that up, I actually like don't think this is going to work out.

Speaker 1 No, I mean, I've only been single for a couple months, but like

Speaker 2 already,

Speaker 1 just in terms of like my single life, like my own like personal life, like I, I never never wanted to work out. Obviously, like you want to work out because you want to like be hot or like whatever.

Speaker 1 I never wanted to work out because I didn't, I feel like I literally didn't care

Speaker 1 about my body. Like I didn't care if I was healthy.
I didn't care if I was strong. And then when I was like single, I was like, oh no, like I have to like stay alive, you know?

Speaker 2 And so just for yourself in these streets.

Speaker 1 Yeah, certain things that I was like, I'll never be able to do that. Like that's so not me.
I'll never be able to get into that routine. Random, like just naturally came really natural.

Speaker 1 Like, I have been working out three times a week and it, like, I haven't even thought about it.

Speaker 2 Like, I'm so proud of you.

Speaker 1 I don't know. It was just very empowering for like my own self to see, like, oh, I thought I'd never be able to quit that.
Or I thought I'd never be able to, like, start that up.

Speaker 1 And so then when you're doing it naturally, you're like, wait, I'm way stronger than I was giving myself credit for. I was literally gaslighting myself.

Speaker 2 Also, I hate to say it. Sometimes you think like you're the problem, but sometimes you just have to change your environment.

Speaker 2 It's very hard to change yourself when you're doing the same thing every day. But if you, it's like why people move or they get out of a relationship or they start a new job.

Speaker 2 That helps you with change.

Speaker 2 Also, one thing about being a caretaker, I do have to say, like, it is, we're not saying don't be a caretaker. Just make sure where what you're caring for cares for you back.

Speaker 1 Right. Like, it really is true.
Like, filling up someone else's cup and then like not filling yours, it really drains you.

Speaker 2 Wait, did I, speaking of Pilates, because I know you've been on a Pilates kick, we both subconsciously, like, started doing Pilates this week. And when I say started, I did it once last week.

Speaker 2 And I've done Pilates sporadically because, you know, I'm very busy with hip-hop yoga. Right.
But I went with my mom a couple times. So I was like, I'm not signing up for a beginner class.

Speaker 2 I'm going to sign up for, it's called like mix. And it's like, make sure you've done at least three Pilates classes.
I was like, yeah.

Speaker 2 I got my ass kicked.

Speaker 1 You get your ass beat.

Speaker 2 Like,

Speaker 2 they started off being like, okay, take your legs and put it over your head. And I was like, this is a warm-up.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, the shakes I get during Pilates is crazy.

Speaker 2 The exorcism of your body.

Speaker 2 And then they keep using all these words like pelvis, which I thought was a made-up thing.

Speaker 1 When they say internal rotation, I'm like, what the fuck does that mean, Michael?

Speaker 2 Like, what are we doing?

Speaker 1 They're like, internally rotate your hip. I'm like, how the fuck?

Speaker 1 Also, they're like, no, if it's internally rotated.

Speaker 2 They're like, we're going to use a muscle that you've never activated before. And I'm like, I'm 33.
If I didn't need it till now, that's like an appendix. I don't need it.

Speaker 2 I saw the funniest Pilates

Speaker 2 Instagram of like, after you murder someone and it's you like pulling the dead body and then it goes to your Pilates instructor and they're like,

Speaker 2 strong back.

Speaker 2 Strong back, raise your spine. And the the girl like changes her posture as she's pulling the dead body.

Speaker 1 No, Pilates is really, truly actually the only thing that helps my back problems.

Speaker 1 Because I think I have back problems because I literally, my back was not strong enough. So I would like hunch over and like it would just like hurt so bad.

Speaker 1 And so I truly feel like it's the only thing that like builds muscle in my fucking shoulders.

Speaker 2 In your pernuvo scan, did you have anything going on with your spine?

Speaker 1 I didn't.

Speaker 2 Okay, not to brag, but my L4 and L5

Speaker 2 has a slip disc.

Speaker 1 Well, you're an athlete. You're an athlete.
So you probably have so many old injuries that, like.

Speaker 2 Yes, but I also think I have this obsession with, do you know, when you buy a sectional, that long part of the couch, that's where I thrive in my life. Like, when in doubt.
You love a chase.

Speaker 2 You love a chase. You love a chase.
I'm like a cat. That is my comfort zone.
Like, there's a sunken spot in this, in that part where I live my day. I'm lying down, but then with my head insane.

Speaker 2 And some I was like researching and they're like the worst possible, because sometimes I'll be sitting for a couple days and I'm like, wow, my lower back's killing me.

Speaker 2 Like I just like deadlifted something, but your spine is supposed to not be that direction, basically. So like we're doing it to ourselves.

Speaker 1 That's why I got an adjustable base bed, truly, because I was like, I can't sit like this because your head is down looking at your fucking phone.

Speaker 2 And for all you Gen Z's, my fellow Gen Z's listening, being like, are we listening to a podcast about two girls complaining about the lower back? We're helping you get ahead of it.

Speaker 1 No, I have upper back problems, so actually, we're killing two birds with one stroke.

Speaker 2 We're looking out for all of our spines. Your L4, your L5.

Speaker 2 We're just, this is for girlhood in general.

Speaker 2 Keep your spine healthy, your mind healthy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, do yourself a favor, book a fucking Pilates class, pet your cat,

Speaker 1 and shake it off.

Speaker 2 Okay, Taylor Swift.

Speaker 2 Literally,

Speaker 1 I want to go do Pilates with Molly Mae and be like,

Speaker 1 let's find you a mayonnaise, honey.

Speaker 2 Shout out, Molly Mae. We love you so, so, so much.

Speaker 1 No, I love her.

Speaker 2 Thank you for putting out that show and being so vulnerable.

Speaker 1 No, I truly felt, I actually felt closer to the gigglers when I watched it because, like, obviously, like, when girls DM me and they're like, you, you know, really made us feel seen.

Speaker 1 I can, I can appreciate it to a point because I'm like, oh, like, that makes me feel so good that my words helped you. Molly Mae's words helped me.

Speaker 1 So I was like, oh my God, I fucking love the gigglers. Like, I know exactly how you feel.
Like, all I wanted to do was like text Molly Mae and be like, you don't understand.

Speaker 1 Like, that helped me so much. Like, I thought I was a raging bitch sometimes, but really, it was like, no, you were fucking up my shit.
Like, move.

Speaker 2 Molly, when you were complaining about your grid and the pressure of your grid, it really changed my life. No, it did.
I was in a really dark place, then you talked about your grid stressing you out.

Speaker 2 And now I feel seen.

Speaker 1 No, when she was like, I take a thousand pictures and I delete all of them, I'm like, it's my favorite hobby.

Speaker 2 No, we love you. We love Molly Mae.

Speaker 2 Quick update. We have, we added more live shows, y'all.
We added more live shows. We're in Nashville, New Orleans, St.

Speaker 2 Augustine, Hollywood, Florida, Tacoma, Washington, Portland, Oregon, Las Vegas, Nevada, Salt Lake City, Utah. I don't know if any of these sold out.
Double check. Go to linktree slash giggly squad.

Speaker 2 It's on our Instagram. Also, I'm going to Alabama.

Speaker 2 jesus when are you going to alabama i think next month birmingham let's go we love you guys so much thank you for giggling and we'll talk

Speaker 1 thank you for coming to radio city you guys are the fucking best yes shout out bye

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