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Trying is believing. Sup, gigglers.
Harriet, fix the Wi-Fi. Manifest that shit.
We can't be managed. I mean, the day just got away from me.
Hello, my Radio City gigglers. Even if you weren't here this last week, we felt you at Radio City.
No, literally. We're basically the Rockettes if they had an attitude problem.
If they were very grumpy and didn't like to actually go to the gym. We are out of shape Rockettes.
Yeah, the Rockettes never left their bed
and just send each other memes all day.
Dude, shout out to the Rockettes.
Shout out, I love them.
Do you want to know what?
I've never seen the Rockettes ever
and I feel like that's so not page coded.
That's so not page coded.
I saw the Rockettes and it's funny when you're younger,
you literally are like, they just seem like Barbie dolls. funny when you're younger you literally are like they just seem like barbie dolls also you're dying you're like sick i actually think i have bronchitis can you spell bronchitis there's an h i don't know once there's an h thrown you're like you got you got me a silent h H? Get the fuck out of here.
No, I don't do silent Hs. Quick, okay, highlights of Radio City.
I'll start. Okay.
Or you start. My favorite moment by far beyond it doesn't compare to anything is when me and you by ourselves walked out onto the stage at like 5 o'clock before any before the doors opened I I instantly started crying which is so not I got so overwhelmed by looking out into like the empty crowd and standing on that stage that I instantly couldn't hold it in and Paige never cries so I was like that meme where like you're holding like a broom and you start tapping your friend to be like are you feeling like and then i was like hugging you but then i was like does she need space like but yeah you i also think like you'd been holding it in a bit yeah and you know when you start crying over something but then it keeps going and you're like okay you just tripped you had one yeah well it's because life is so difficult i think it's also for us like i feel like not to sound like sappy or whatever i feel like when we started giggly squad even up into up until we started our tour there was so much noise about like oh giggly squad is stupid and like what do they even do and like oh they just like talk to each other and they think they're so cool and like okay that's literally just for men but continue no that's no that's what i mean like to have someone in your ear constantly of being like oh what is this tour and like i mean like do you really think you're gonna like blah blah blah whatever to stand in that moment and just be like suck my dick like so sicilian we're so we're so sicilian you used jojo siwa karma wait okay so i get this video of me doing the worm slow-mo and i was like this i have to post this it writes itself it writes itself but then i was like i was like do i do a glorilla do i do frank sinatra i went through all of them and then i just funny clicked jojo see what and i was like wait why is this fucking perfection but this is for all those people out there who might be going through something or you feel like you've been wronged in a way or people are out to get to you first of all if people are out to get to you that means you're shining that means they're trying to dim a light that you have.
You might not see the light, but they see it.
And that's why they're trying to dim it.
And if you keep working hard, you will rise above it all, motherfuckers.
No, my enemies have been working fucking overtime.
I actually don't know where they find me hours.
I'm like, TikTok's back.
Why don't you take a breather?
Take a fucking minute, bitch.
I just have to say, what happened with TikTok, was that not tiktok just being like gotcha tiktok is a giggler it literally came back and was just like gotcha but okay why i know people love trends but when everyone was just like revealing secrets and i actually wrote a couple what what was that why are people acting like the world was gonna end i'm like guys why are we acting like this last time we're gonna see you ever and we're all going off the face of the earth here's why i have a small circle of friends and it's because i truly don't believe that anyone like gets me as a person some of the information these bitches were putting out you'd have to waterboard
out of me i wrote some of my favorite ones first of all it it came out that like this influencer who's everyone's paying a lot of money for her glute workouts has a bbl no no way that's a lot of them that's a lot of them it's giving legally blonde when she was like i was getting liposuction liposuction that it's the same thing and girls are all upset then a girl who does workouts was like i want to let you guys know i wasn't doing any of the workouts it's like and then a girl who her whole thing was making coffee every day was like i've never drank the coffee and then a girl who her whole thing was making coffee every day was like i've never drank the
coffee oh wait that's fucking hilarious and then she was a coffee influencer yeah and then some of
the girls were like yeah i've been on ozempic i liked those ones yeah i loved those um i felt
like it was a time for people to it was it felt like the titanic where we're all about to get off
and you're like i don't want to say anything i don't want to get anything off their chest
Thank you. I felt like it was a time for people to, it was, it felt like the Titanic where we're all about to get off.
And you're like, I don't want to say anything. I don't want to get anything off their chest.
And then the Titanic didn't sink. They were like, oh, wait, actually, we found a life raft.
And you're like, okay. You know, the Sebastian Maniscalco skit where like his, I think it's the name of one of his specials where he's just like, aren aren't you embarrassed like when people were crying and then it came back i was like aren't you embarrassed like delete it when it was gone for a night well first of all everyone freaked out because they did it early which was fucked up like don't say it's going down on sunday and then it goes down early and everyone was probably like enjoying their last couple moments but yeah let's be honest people low-key had the most freeing couple hours of their life no i started when it came back i actually felt like oh my god i'm like trapped by social media like even if you get away from it it's like it's people are still on there yes yeah it's like when instagram goes down or even like covid we all for a second we're like oh well i'm not feeling guilty for not like going outside because no one's going outside that's how i felt but people were posting funniest tiktoks when i came back someone was like i had so much fun learning about who my kids are last night oh yeah i saw a bunch of women being like decided to get to know my husband last night he's pretty cool I actually started reading I learned how to read yesterday no there was a moment when like that Sunday when I was like oh it's going down tonight that I was like maybe I'll start puzzling maybe I'll get a hobby.
I was like, should I become a painter? Yeah. I think it was beautiful, but also like so many people are able to monetize it.
And yeah, I mean, that part is like, I'm so happy for like the small business people who have like their whole lives have changed. Like that's, but they're hustlers.
So they would they would have like hustled somewhere else like i like if you started a small business and were able to quit your corporate job and like live you're a fucking hustler and i'm proud of you i just want us to all keep our eyes open like i am just worried about like who's in power and why and like what algorithm they're trying to push on us. But hopefully it just helps us all get that bag and be entertained.
Whatever you do. One more thing about the Gigglers.
When I feel like we're performing for the Gigglers, I don't feel like it's like we're the stars and they're like fans. I felt like we all made it.
Yeah but also like in the crowd like they're like joking back at us yeah which is like the comments no so many girls in the front were saying comments that then i repeated into the microphone because it was fucking hilarious they're fucking they're in it with us it felt like a big crazy brunch and then we did a q a at the end and this girl raises her hand and she's like can i come on stage yeah page was like do you have a gun like there's like has to be some more context to this no also there's never any security at giggly squad because i don't think the men at the theater know what's about to go down so like we've had security straight up be like if something did go down i can't take't take on 6,000 girls. Yeah.
And we're like, what do you want me to do? We know you can't. Tackle a girl.
We're not going to let you touch her. Don't fucking touch her.
So then she's like, can I just go on stage and show you something? And in that moment, I'm like, OK, she's a giggler. Like we let her do anything.
Yeah. Do whatever you want.
Do whatever you want. So she goes on stage and we start.
We're like, are you worm like what are you doing and she's like just watch just watch she does like a raquette kick down into a split yeah she was perfect the whole crowd loses their mind and i'm like wait all of you could be on stage right now it was like a talent show for the giggler no it's so crazy one girl posted and it really just oh i just felt like such a feminist icon it made me so proud of us she was like giggly squad is proof that women do not dress for men there is not a man in sight at giggly squad unless he is a taken boyfriend and and if that's the case we're not fucking looking at him so the girls coming in their outfits i was just so proud to be a girl also new york city the girls can dress honey like they looked so fucking good the girls it's so funny too who's dressing for you and who's dressing for me yeah and it's to the point that like i feel bad complimenting a girl who's clearly so page-coded because i almost feel like she'll be insulted if i think her outfit's cute no the ties and like the bows it was just you know where you are it was a perfect synergy um radio city truly felt like the new house of scientology you know no well someone said something like tiktok is the new tv um movies like watching a movie on tv is like the new movie theater and then movie theaters are like the new concerts and then concerts are like a full cult meeting yeah no we had we started a cult we low-key started a cult joel olstein for hot girls it's crazy we started on instagram live with like 3 000 girls see that's why when people be talking shit about instagram i'm like look we put some respect on it put some respect on instagram lives during covid for keeping us afloat during our dark dark what a time to be alive that was what a time to be alive also i do have to say i used to think that like straight guys should come on come to giggly squad if they were smart because it's just all like the hottest smartest girls who funniest girls most successful girls in every city like come together that in a show but then i realized the girls by the end of the show want to stone a man like it's actually unsafe for them no i feel like the empowerment when you leave a giggly squad show you're like i can fucking do anything like i truly feel like the next president of the united states was in the crowd you know and she was wearing a tie you know like the gigglers in the male bathroom and then there'd be like a dude in the bathroom and they literally beat his ass to be like get out here it's for the girl one of my one of my girlfriends came to the show and her boyfriend after the show was like you know i was in the men's bathroom and i was uncomfortable should i not be in there i was like no get the fuck out of there hold it no and now you know it feels to be a woman 24 7 yeah he was like the line was crazy i'm like well that's where we make friends okay um so my dad actually could not come to radio city because he had COVID. Who knew that that was a thing in 2025? And like he got it bad.
Like he was out for the count. He was down bad.
So like down, down bad. So I call him.
Yes. No, he called me.
Humble brag, which we joke about. Like when your dad calls you, two things are happening.
He didn't mean to.
It was a butt dial or your entire family is dead.
So I was worried.
He goes, hey, I'm so proud of you.
I saw the photos.
You guys looked amazing.
I'm really excited for your book to come out.
And I was like, what?
Like that's in April.
What are you talking about?
And he goes, my mom, he goes, your mom sent me like a copy of the final book and i i read it all weekend and i was like wait what and he goes it's the best book i ever read i was like what and he goes no he goes i feel so inspired but i was laughing he goes this book is gonna be amazing and I'm like, what? And he goes, no, he goes, I feel so inspired, but I was laughing. He goes, this book is going to be amazing.
And I'm like, dad, we didn't even get a quote from you on the back of the book. I didn't even know you knew we had a book coming out.
Wait, can I add that we literally set up a play date with our dads and I felt like, I felt like your your dad i felt like my dad was being like can i have a sleepover with danny or like is that okay you know like when my dad heard that your dad wasn't coming to radio city my dad's whole night was ruined he was like wait what he was so upset and when i said covid he thought i was lying and then my dad goes call him my dad goes how's gary and i was like gary's great and he goes could i text him like is that weird i'm like i don't even know if gary has a if kim lets gary have a phone well i know what's so funny is my dad doesn't have an email address i see that's the energy i was getting that's the energy my dad gives the energy my father gives is i don't know ask him like why the fuck would i have an email address why are all moms so much better with technology than dads like my mom has facebook instagram she knows women put in the time they put in the time to learn yeah what they don't know because men wanted to be the 50s still when they still were in power so they're not updating anything i love that he doesn't have an email no we truly have the epitome of girl dads yeah my dad remember with the knicks game we took a photo and i was like okay i'll post it on your instagram for you and he goes put it in an insta story and i was like you don't want to put me on your grid and he's like no I like to see who's looking at it and I was like my mom thanked me the other day for putting um her on my grid she was like that was really sweet of you I was like oh my god I'm obsessed with you guys I'm glad one of our parents wants to put, wants to be on someone's grid.
No,
my dad straight up was like,
do not put our photo on my grid.
I don't want that.
It's going to ruin my grid.
I was like,
okay.
Wait,
speaking of grids,
what do you think about Instagram changing the length of the photo?
That threw me.
It threw me.
And everything's like shifted to the left.
I don't like that.
Yeah,
it's not done. I feel like they're like in the middle of something but it's like we put it as a square so when you make it longer also now i don't know what's it look again we never like change and social media is like going through it right now social media is like mercury and retrograde they're like trying to figure out their path yeah and like And like I support it.
It's just, do you remember when we got so upset about Insta Stories? Like we lost our mind. We were like, this is Snapchat.
This is just Snapchat. Like we were so mad.
Wait, for the longest, I couldn't put music on my grid or my stories. I just got it fixed right before Radio City.
Thank God. Thank God.
We differently i did frank sinatra old school and you went like cameron yeah i went i went old school rap cameron so page is back in her music era sure am and one thing we don't tell the gigglers which is i forgot because you i don't think you listen to music for like four years, which is disturbing, which we should have checked on that.
You're like, it was too loud up here. Yeah, I was like, there's so much noise in my brain.
I couldn't actually think about listening to someone else. one thing about me and you is we love hardcore pussy popping misogynistic offensive fucked up rap like we were getting our makeup done and i was like let's put music on at one point i think your mom was like oh oh no is this getting you guys pumped up i was like actually in the most female empowering green room like so powerful and i'm like put on some rap about fucking bitches and and stripping money yeah money um we we do have the same taste in music i told someone they were like oh what's like your walkout song and i was like actually it's like asap rocky like fucking problems and And they were like, oh, what's like your walkout song? And I was like, actually, it's like A$AP Rocky, like fucking problems.
And they were like, they were like, wait, really? Like I would have thought you guys would have had something like poppier, like girlier, like a female rapper. And I was like, I don't know.
It was the first ever song from the very first live we ever did. And we've never changed it because it is just such a fucking vibe and i feel like when we're walking out it's like we're saying to the girls in the crowd like you're a bad bitch like yes i love bad bitches that's my fucking problem and yeah i like to fuck i got a fucking problem that's some empowering shit that we have taken yeah no i've taken that whatever asap rocky is married he's a girl's girl one of the most feminist bitches on the planet who is like an icon runs shit so like if he if anyone knows it's him so my new walkout song because i've been doing fucking problems forever for my new stand-up i'm coming up with asap ferg i ASAPs.
A lot of ASAPs. We love an ASAP.
I don't know the history of the ASAP, and it's with the money signal. But I'm doing new level.
So I come out going, I'm on a new level. I'm on a new level.
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I was with Caroline Banowitz this other weekend starting my new material shows, and she's one of my Gen z best friends she considers me gen z i've never asked her but i assume right there's one of those moments where i realized i was older than her stop oh my god those are so humbling what was yours it was it was humble oh my god i'm gonna gag yeah like it's just weird because we're both gen z so we at an ashley simpson song comes on because i was doing my angry woman playlist and i was like i fucking love this song and she's like it's so good and i go oh i miss her old nose and she goes what pardon and i was like ashley simpson's old nose before she got a nose job and she goes ashley simpson got a nose job my ashley simpson is brunette on snl lip syncing that's my ashley simpson that is the only ashley simpson i've ever known and ever will know and i don't accept this new this new ashley simpson is ai okay and she's like she had. And I go, it's like showing her the photos.
And she's like, oh my God, she's so cute. And I'm like, were you three? Hello? Hello? Ashley Simpson has been that bitch.
She will always be that bitch. She, one of the one things I love about Ashley Simpson is that like, had a career, awesome, amazing.
Everyone loved her. And then she was just was just like fuck it i'm getting married and like having kids and doing whatever the fuck i want and like loves her husband she got so much backlash so from that snl night where it's like nowadays i don't people just wanted to hate on her because one they were mad that she like got A career from her sister which like if you're the older sister and you're a mega star what the fuck else are you gonna do but help your sister out it's not like she was copying her sister she was a completely different vibe of like punk and way different anger and badass and baggy jeans and and grunge and like it was so great two things that stick in my head about like that time of life is ashley simpson getting berated from snl and them calling jessica simpson fat when she was a size six jessica simpson is getting separated from her husband it's breakup season so is jessica alba so is kaya gerber so is rachel from the bachelor something's in the air and women are like hey you know what no gary can you get me a water and an oxygen tank and an oxygen mask i do think that um i'm kind of loving this breakup season because normally this should be cuffing season.
But I feel like for the girls, they're like, it's winter. And I actually just want to watch murder documentaries and fart on my own.
And I don't need someone to cuddle with. Cuddling overrated.
Get out of here. I'm hot.
Summer is fun. You're hooking up.
You're tan. You're making out with guys.
Winter, don't fucking touch me. OK? No, I want to be wrapped in my sweatpants in a fur blanket with my fuzzy socks.
and if you're tan you're making out with guys winter don't fucking touch me okay no like i want to be wrapped in my sweatpants in a fur blanket with my fuzzy socks and if you're also under my same blanket i'm gonna get hot and i don't want to get hot you know like i've i have the perfect temperature right now get your freaking sweaty balls away from me do you know in certain other countries and cultures partners have their own duvets and that's nice yeah I don't know why we're for I mean the whole sleeping in the same bed thing I'm so down to have separate bedrooms with my husband but like sleep in the same bed at night like I'm so down to go to his bedroom at night and sleep and then like keep my room pristine and like my stuff I think that should be more normalized like we have separate rooms but like if we want to sleep in the same bed every night like we can but like i'm gonna go back to my room in the morning also like i feel like that sounds like spicy like yes you know like miss me do you want to sleep with me tonight and it's like i don't know we'll see i might come in later yeah like i like i'm gonna watch my shows first and then like maybe i'll come in like you can like change your pajamas be a whole new bitch or you can lock the door and put a chair in front of it and say ben for your fucking self i told you during my naughty years my early 20s when i was dating the guy craig Craigslist and we were hiding our. Which I feel like just doesn't get talked about enough.
It doesn't get talked about enough. But we and we didn't want the other roommates to know we were hooking up.
We would be the last to be watching TV together on like separate couches. Just happened to both be watching a show.
Yeah. And then we'd go into his room.
And then at like 4 or 4 or 5 a.m i'd go back to my room and then in the morning i'd pretend i was like so grossed out and annoyed by him in front of the other roommates like he's making oatmeal again ill no i mean give a girl an oscar no it's it's so fun to like have a little well they won't they you know yeah well they won't they i'm trying to think what i what i do with des is i fall asleep on the couch and he's like i'm going to bed can you please come in soon and then i lied to him and i'm like i'm literally right behind you and then obviously i get a second wind and suddenly i need to scroll every single app and then i need to like start a molly may documentary and then i come in at 2 a.. and wake him up yeah accidentally let's get to it let's get to it I I watched all three episodes last night for you yeah same and I'm a fan but I knew that we were going to discuss the way I loved her prior to this documentary there's something about here's the thing what do you think is the molly may effect here's what i'm gonna say when you see certain people on tv or on instagram or on tiktok and you see these influencers there are a hand there now there's a lot of people that can get a lot of followers go viral say something crazy get a little like traction there are a handful of people that when you see them on a screen, you feel it in your soul of like they have something like they have some it factor.
They have some type of star quality. You can't pinpoint it, but you're like they make me feel a different way than just like scrolling all these influencers.
Molly Mae is one of those people where she just has this spark, this like she's a star type of thing. Like when she appeared on the screen on Love Island, I didn't know that she was like a famous influencer in England.
She had followers, but she was nowhere as famous as she is now. When she walked into that villa, I was like, like she's a star i don't give a fuck about any other girl in this house but her and she was full blonde and that's usually not my type no and i was like i love her and that was a season the first season me and you ever watched together during the covet season of summer house when we were trying to stay in bed because whenever we left we'd have to to fight with people.
So we were just trying to watch Love Island. Trying to stay in our damn lane.
Look, we tried. We tried to stay in our own lane.
People didn't know we were trying. I said, let's learn some English slang.
That'll keep us occupied. But you know what is? Molly Mae is very page coded.
Where like, I didn't feel that connection to her okay like you immediately were
like the outfits everything where i was like everything i was like i like her but i yeah i
wasn't i think also yeah we me me and page are different with like people that we become obsessed
with we've never been obsessed with the same people. No.
Oh, my God.
No, we haven't.
No, we don't have the same. OK, we don't have the same like favorite celebrities and we don't have the same like favorite male celebrities.
We have complete opposite type of men and complete opposite type of women.
No, we really do.
When we meet people like we've never both been hyped up for someone.
Hannah, no, we haven't.
Like, actually, I specifically remember one time meeting someone and you being like, oh, my God, I'm so obsessed.
And me being like, I feel like they don't really like me.
Or like someone comes up to me and you're like, oh, my God, Paige, we love you.
And you're like, OK, well, that was weird.
I'm standing right here.
Like that does happen to us a lot I feel like all the time actually people will either be like obsessed with Paige or obsessed with me or like pretend to be obsessed with both of us yes and we're like you don't have to pretend we've accepted like I feel like if we met Molly May like she'd be excited to see you yeah I get that no I love her but my thing with Molly May is she really reminded me of you in that this whole thing is one about her having a public relationship and then her dealing with backlash whatever and then her starting her own fashion brand but what I loved about this documentary which made me fuck with Molly May is that a lot of these documentaries are like uh look at me why i'm so amazing yeah this bitch cried the whole time cried the whole time cried the whole time and like not like there are so many things that i'm like they could have cut that out like i and it wasn't even like i don't know just really fucking raw i think another reason why I loved the documentary so much was like after we did our beta blocker episode and after we did like our breakup episode, I had so many girls saying like the nicest things to me. And they were like, no, you truly don't understand.
Like, I feel really seen with the things you said. Molly Mae said so many things during that documentary that I was just like, holy shit.
Like, I feel so fucking seen. Like, yeah, I fucking knew that wasn't my fault.
Like, that is just so many different things where I was like, damn, I went through that same thing. Or like, I know how that feels, whatever.
Like, she was really showing behind the scenes. For example, she's launching her first fashion line.
Fashion line. But she's doing her first event where people were going to see it.
And she's like, I haven't ever done like a live event meet and greet with people. And it shows her freaking the fuck out about every detail of it.
And like we've all been there where it's your name on it. And like you feel like other people aren't caring about it like you care care about it.
And you know, you're the only one that gets backlash if it doesn't come out. Right.
And you're like, you start just feeling like I'm fucked. And her leaning into that, her also saying how she takes like hundreds of thousands of picks.
And sometimes we'll just give up on the pick. Like there was so many of that.
Remember when I was really obsessed with my grid and it was like literally putting me into like it was actually like ruining your life no i didn't even know she even mentioned she was like girls like me because my fashion and my grid and i was like oh i guess i thought that was a thing you made up no what my grid is like so wait are you telling me you think people don't follow me because they see my grid and they're like, oh. But pages don't.
I didn't know that the grid was the thing. No, I'll follow a bitch in fucking Siberia if I'm like, damn, her grid is aesthetic.
What makes it just like similar colors? It makes me happy. It's just like looking at it makes me happy.
But like, can you explain what makes a grid aesthetic? Or it's like you can't put your finger on it. It just has to be like equal parts cohesive, but equal parts different and cool.
And like, it's honestly a lot of pressure. Like I really felt, I really felt for Molly Mae.
I was like, no, I get it. Like your grit is so important.
It's also our creative outlet. Like it's what we see in our brain.
and then to put out into the world of like i think this picture looks really cool next to this picture and like this outfit complements this outfit and like i'm wearing red in this outfit and like a little bit of red in that one so i'm gonna put those pictures near each other because it looks pretty like it's all about like matching yeah i imagine a guy's like i into page but then i saw her grid and she had like yellow randomly on like the third row and i was like i don't fuck with her okay well that man is gay one of my favorite scenes was this meet and greet where first of all it was not organized like i don't know what they thought it would be but they thought people would come in and casually like say hi to her. But clearly, like every single person that went in wanted a photo with her.
And she's being so nice. But you could see she's like doing hundreds of photos.
And then it cuts to her hiding in the basement crying, saying no one's having fun. And I can't just sit here down here the whole time.
But whenever I go up, it's awkward. And then she had to walk outside and just someone was like, hey, just tell everyone thanks for coming.
She walks out. She says, thanks for coming.
Turns back and she goes, that was so fucking awkward. And everyone hates me.
Like it was so funny because when you're a fan of someone, you don't see that side of it that like, yeah, they're feeling embarrassed. That's how I felt after my panic attack at Giggly.
I was like, everyone hates this show. They're never going never gonna come they think i'm bad at this like it you really you're in your own head it reminded me of you it reminded of you in terms of like our first meet and greets page would get black out because she like couldn't do it i was so nervous and then you because it was like meet and greets can be hard where every person you want them to have the best experience and if you think you had an awkward interaction with someone which happens right you think you you suck and then you start spiraling and you think everyone hates you i'm like oh my god that girl definitely hates me never is never gonna listen to giggly squad again here's one thing i do want to point out that I found so so empowered I don't even know whatever just like a fucking man she was hitting the pinnacle of her career something she had been working on for three years no one even knew she was coming out with a fashion line it's literally about to drop within those couple of months she's so stressed about about it.
She's been working on it for so long.
Just like a fucking man to come in,
fuck up her whole mental health.
She's now got to deal with him and his fucking problems while simultaneously dealing with like launching this
that she's been thinking about since she was a fucking child.
And he just ruined it. He ruined it for for her i think about it all the time not that this is related whatsoever but when i watched the um who are they jonah's brothers fighters no oh tyson logan paul what's his name yeah jake paul jake paul the one that that fought mike tyson when i was watching his documentary obviously like his girlfriend was in it because it was like whatever when men do a documentary about something that they're like it's their career their girlfriend or significant other or whatever is always in the documentary about how much she supported him and how much like what did she give up so that he could do that or like how did it impact her fucking day never touch on her fucking life and that girl's like a professional skier or something yeah there girl's a professional fucking athlete never touched on it didn't give a fuck we're here like when it's but when it's a woman it's so if that was a man if if jake or whatever the fuck his name is was doing his about to do that fight and his girlfriend went and fucked up his mental health or like cheated on him or did something they'd be like you are the devil how could you not fucking support him but when it's a woman and she's putting out a clothing line and a man wants to come in and act like it's not that big a deal like i'm gonna hit you with some like real fucked up emotional shit no one says anything no one says anything why is tommy not getting so much fucking hate right now for like you ruined her launch you literally ruined it i don't know but i'd like to unless they're back together and that's a decision that she made and i support her and we support it I do think that the mom made an interesting statement or the sister where they were like we support you being married to Tommy but it's not going to be easy to marry Tommy so if you want to marry a famous man you can but you're gonna have to sacrifice a lot of happiness when that famous man has a drinking problem one time my mom said to me i think you would live a fine life do you want to live a fine life kim come on it's 10 a.m chill i think we've all been in that position i remember when i was in that position once where i found a man and i knew like i got some stuff from it for my ego but I remember when I was in that position once where I found a man and I knew like I got some stuff from it for my ego.
But I remember feeling like I was signing a deal with the devil and I didn't know what to do. But then my body didn't stop letting me eat.
So that's how I knew my body was physically rejecting him. She had hit her goal weight.
But at what cost? But at what cost? I remember I ordered a sandwich and it was like we were working my 9 to 5 and I couldn't finish the sandwich, which was very out of character for me. And I was really paranoid that people were noticing.
And then I remember being like, what the fuck is wrong with you? You hate this man. Get out of this relationship just because other people think he's cool see i know when that happens to me when like i'm not genuinely an awkward person but when i start being really awkward and like clumsy i'm like oh my body doesn't like where we are or like what we're doing like i well yeah you almost your body starts to like fall apart and your brain and body are like you're not it's out being out of alignment that's what it's literally being out of alignment and your body will tell you like this is not good for you no when i lose my appetite there's a problem yeah there's one thing being nervous there's no thing your body getting sick from the situation you've put it in.
So listen to your body, girlies. We love that for us.
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No, but I'm just so obsessed with Molly Mae I think she she also just seems so sweet and genuine and like works really hard and you know and you want to know the other thing she didn't say a bad fucking thing about him she did not say she did not not drag this man. She could have.
She probably has got stories for days. The only thing she said that I was just like, wow, when she said Tommy doesn't have a drinking problem, but when he drinks, there are problems.
And I begged him not to drink at my sister's wedding. Oof, like that.
Oh, my God. You must have been holding that in for so long and the shit that you probably dealt with behind closed doors to make sure that this man didn't get bad press or like because people would have inevitably came at you too and you want to know what if he did do some fucked up shit drinking the press would have just been like molly you're stupid for staying with him but but then when you don't support it it's like oh my god you couldn't like work through it you couldn't help and the drinking thing is crazy because they'll then be like oh i know i cheated but it's because of my drinking problem and and it's the thing you feel empathy because it's like this that's wasn't him like he has a drinking problem but then you have to decide and look this affects a lot of people drinking problems not i personally don't know too much about it but what i know is it's not what you will see in the movies always of a guy waking up with the shakes and then needs to have whiskey at 11 a.m it's a majority of the time and we joke about it as comics that it's in your 20s it's cute in your 30s you go do i have a problem and this happens to a lot of people in your 30s men and women but if every time you or your partner or your friend drinks some bad shit happens and they can't control it that's a drinking there's problems when you drink that's a drinking problem and look i there's i'm saying this as a firm coach right now because you're also saying this as a wife of someone who is sober so you know so like that's like a big actually you know what i do have a little two cents because my husband's been sober since 19 he's 19 years old and I've learned a little bit about that stuff but there's a lot of people that the only thing between you and success in your life and by success I mean a loving family healthy friendships a healthy career sometimes alcohol is the one thing that's and I think that like our generation was kind of fed oh a drinking problem is you wake up every day you your body can't function if there's not alcohol inside of it i've met a ton of alcoholics that can go five days without drinking but the minute they pick up a drink it's absolute mayhem and i'm gonna be honest he probably did so much shit to her that she never got over it.
Well, she said she's like, I let him get away with a lot of shit. So we don't even know.
We don't even know. We don't even know what she's protected him from.
And I mean, as two people. And then it's like it's in the public being like all the hate is going to her where she's probably sitting home being like you don't fucking if you knew half the shit this man has done to me like it's crazy i just feel bad for her we're in we've done reality tv where we see the like people doing things when they're drunk that are so fucked up like i've had stuff fucked up done to me and then the next day it doesn't count because they were drunk but you don't don't forget what they said to you don't forget what they did to you but then you're the fucked up one because you're holding grudges when it's like but they do this every weekend but because i'm i wasn't blackout i have to forgive them i'm gonna let's take back the meaning of like holding grudges you know what if you did something fucked up to me two years ago and i never got over it that's not my fault that's literally not my fault boundaries you did something so insanely fucked up that like i wouldn't be able to get it out of my head unless i had a fucking lobotomy so every time i look at you i fucking think of it that's why women were getting lobotomies in the 20s because men had prohibition getting blackout doing fucked up stuff to them and then would lobotomize them so they'd forget what they did truly so i i actually i know molly's molly may said in the documentary like i'm trying to get through all of this in the hopes that me and tommy get back together and like i want her to get whatever she wants I really pray that she does not get back with him I hope she co-parents that beautiful baby with him and I hope she meets someone who supports the fuck out of her and like also Tommy you're not your brother like you don't have the career your brother does your your wife makes more money than you maybe sit and chill for a fucking second wait sorry i'm laughing because i love how we started this conversation being like whatever molly wants to do is perfect and now we're like if she gets back with that man no listen to me when she starts breaking down in the third episode this isn't okay this is what happens so she goes um spoiler alert because i spoiler sorry she does she's like i want to get back with him we all got that like no no because you're watching it and you're watching how amazing she is and then she's sitting there crying not because of what's going on with her career but because he's this stupid dipshit he ruined he ruined what you've worked your whole life for he tried to ruin it he tried to ruin it and i think as women we sit back and we're like he didn't mean to he didn't know like what he was saying he like and we make such excuses he knew what was doing.
He wanted to ruin it for you.
He had no regard.
That's why he got drunk at your sister's wedding.
And fucked up whatever he fucked up.
He didn't care that you were about to go through all this turmoil.
Simultaneously with the launch of your brand.
He didn't give a shit.
It is so interesting though.
If the roles were reversed.
He would never take her back.
Never.
And if the roles were reversed. And he was coming out with some big thing and she went and like was it seen in a night club everyone be like you're a whore how are you outside how are you doing like it's the double standard is crazy can i be so mean right now yes because when i'm watching her and she's beautiful and she's smart and she's empathetic and she's an amazing mother and she's like but he's great it's like i'm sorry he's a cte guy who chose to be on reality tv for attention pretty looking guy who's been spoiled his whole fucking life nepo brother not ashley simpson not not even as talented and and it's like what what makes him so because I don't really believe in my heart of hearts that their chemistry like he's that funny and he's that smart and he's that caring because if he was he wouldn't have fucking embarrassed you yeah he embarrassed you he embarrassed you and then you had to pick up the pieces that's the thing when a man embarrasses you and then you
still get blamed and then you also have to pick up the pieces and fix it fuck you like i'll never forget it look i love a good looking man i've made very bad decisions based off of a jawline but once you spend enough time with that good looking man you will see their character and their looks fade so fucking quick so quick i've like the ick you get i almost get more icks when a guy's hot because i'm like oh you're not only you're lying like you're trying to cover it up with these yeah you're these blue eyes or whatever when you're actually the devil and i don't want to be conned and be treated like shit and be the less hot one that's crazy no 100 100 so look we're not team tommy right now no i'm just not i'm molly may all the way and do i empathize with with people who are struggling with addiction a hundred percent but you know what i also didn't like and she very subtly shows a scene in the beginning when they're in the hot tub when they meet for the first ever time and they're sitting in the hot tub and she goes do you like to drink and he says no and then looks at her and says do you like to drink and she goes not me neither you lied to her face the first time you hung out with her i'm never forgetting that shit i'm out wait can i tell you something i feel like in terms of dating i truly feel and this is like just based off my own like experiences and like say whatever you want i truly feel like women do show you who they are from the jump and that's why men like fall for them where like I feel like you don't really truly see who a man is until like three to six months in and then you're in it and then you're fucking in it and you're like wait did I miscalculate because I told him what I was like and he was down and he was showing you something yeah and now all of a sudden you've you've completely changed that's why they say with the right one he knows first but you don't yes because you're looking at it logically yeah that's yes any guy you fell for immediately was wrong for you 100 and let's be honest when i say fell for immediately i mean you were scrolling his instagram and you're like i'm gonna marry that yeah like fuck yeah no it's because like women truly like i'm like i want you to be the best version of you so i'll make that version up in my head and then you realize they're not it it was that quote we saw from tiktok earlier where men start at zero and we start at a hundred so we he has to disprove everything we believe in him and we have to show them everything honestly my biggest example of that is like i started dating someone and i was already on reality tv and then like halfway through they were like why do you do reality tv and i'm like wait what like you started dating me knowing this like i told you what i do who i am this i get i presented that to you and you're like fuck yeah i love it and then halfway in you're like i don't love it change it and it's like that's crazy though it also reminds me of like men will not tell you who they are they'll show you so him being like i don't drink but then you're black out all of love island or whatever yeah i wasn't tracking his drinking i don't have a drinking problem but like doing the most fucked up shit is crazy behavior and i do have to say like this is a little controversial i love an addict i don't know if i was an addict in a past life i connect with them i've always i've dated multiple addicts in my life fixers women are fixers i've dated multiple addicts because i'm like i'll help you and i've and i've done it i will i will solve all your problems that you've never been able to solve your whole life but me a non-professional will figure it out stick with me honey I'll change it also when you feel love from an addict there is no stronger love once he decides you're his source girl that is the attention I want as a Leo but then you realize oh this is not healthy and also he's always going to choose his addiction over you yeah no i i'm definitely a fixer and i like someone come in and fix me how about that how about someone comes in and gives me some advice but i also feel like the thing a lot of girls we like to be fixers because there is maternal there's more maternal but there's also this like if i focus on fixing him I don't have to address like what I'm missing or what I want or any of those things which is more complicated I think that's why being single is so healthy because you get to learn like what you want what you need so when he comes in and starts having issues instead of being like that's a new project so I don't have to focus on myself you go whoa whoa whoa I have a project here called me and if you're gonna fuck that up I actually like don't think this is gonna work out no I mean I've only been single for a couple months but like already just in terms of like my single life like my own like personal life like I I never wanted to work out obviously like you want to work out because you want to like be hot or like whatever i never wanted to work out because i didn't i feel like i literally didn't care about my body like i didn't care if i was healthy i didn't care if i was strong and then when i was like single i was like oh no like i have to like stay alive you know and so just like yourself in these streets yeah certain things that I was like I'll never be able to do that like that's so not me I'll never be able to get into that routine random like just naturally came really natural like I've been working out three times a week and it like I haven't even thought about it like I'm so proud of you I don't know it was just very empowering for like my own self to see like oh I thought I'd never be able to quit that or I thought I'd never be able to like start that up and so then when you're doing it naturally you're like wait I'm way stronger than I was giving myself credit for I was literally gaslighting myself also I hate to say it sometimes you think like you're the problem but sometimes you just have to change like your environment it's very hard to change yourself when you're doing the same thing every day but if you it's like why people move or they get out of a relationship or they start a new job that helps you with change um also one thing about being a caretaker I do have to say like it is we're not saying don't be a caretaker just make sure where what you're caring for cares for you back right like it really is true like filling up someone else's cup and then like not filling yours it really drains you wait did I speaking of Pilates because I know you've been on a Pilates kick we both subconsciously like started doing Pilates this week and when I say started I did it once last week and i've done pilates sporadically because you know i'm very busy with hip-hop yoga right but i was my mom a couple times so i was like i'm not signing up for a beginner class i'm gonna sign up for it's called like mix and it's like make sure you've done at least three pilates classes i was like yeah i got my ass kicked you get your ass, they started off being like, okay, take your legs and put it over your head. And I was like, this is a warm up? Yeah.
No, the shakes I get during Pilates is crazy. The exorcism of your body.
And then they keep using all these words like pelvis, which I thought was a made-up thing when they say internal rotation i'm like what the fuck does that mean bitch like what are we talking they're like internally rotate your hip i'm like how the fuck am i supposed to know if it's internally rotating they're like we're gonna use a muscle that you've never activated before and I'm like, there's if i didn't need it till now that's like an appendix i don't need it i saw the funniest pilates instagram of like after you murder someone and it's you like pulling the dead body and then it goes to your pilates instructor and they're like no like strong back strong back raise your spine and the girl like changes her posture as she's pulling the dead body no pilates is really truly actually the only thing that helps my back problems because i think i have back problems because i literally my back was not strong enough so i would like hunch over and like it would just like hurt so bad and so i truly feel like it's the only thing that like builds muscle in my fucking shoulders. In your Pernuvo scan, did you have anything going on with your spine?
I didn't.
Okay, not to brag, but my L4 and L5 has a slip disc.
Well, you're an athlete.
You're an athlete.
So you probably have so many old injuries that like.
Yes, but I also think I have this obsession with, do you know when you buy a sectional that long part of the couch that's where i thrive in my life like when in doubt you love a chase you love a chase i love a chase i'm like a cat that is my comfort zone like there's a sunken spot in this in that part where i live my day i'm lying down but then with my head same and some i was like researching and they're like the worst because sometimes i'll be sitting for a couple days and i'm like wow my lower back's killing me like i just like deadlifted something but your spine is supposed to not be that direction basically so like we're doing it to ourselves that's why i got an adjustable base bed truly I was like, I can't sit like this because your head is down looking at your fucking phone. And for all you Gen Z's, my fellow Gen Z's listening, being like, are we listening to a podcast about two girls complaining about the lower back? We're helping you get ahead of it.
No, I have upper back problems. So actually, we're killing two birds with one stone.
We're looking out for all of our spines, Your L4, your L5. We're just, this is for girlhood in general.
Keep your spine healthy, your mind healthy. Yeah.
Do yourself a favor. Book a fucking Pilates class.
Pet your cat. And shake it off.
Okay, Taylor Swift. Literally, I want to go do Pilates with Molly Mae and be like like let's find you a man honey shout out molly may we love you so so so much no i love her thank you for putting out that show and being so vulnerable um no i truly felt i actually felt closer to the gigglers when i watched it because like obviously like when girls dm me and they're like you you know really made us feel seen i can i can appreciate it to a point because i'm like oh like that makes me feel so good that my words helped you molly may's words helped me so i was like oh my god i fucking love the gigglers like i know exactly how you feel like all i wanted to do was like text molly may and be like you don't understand like that helped me so much like i thought i was a raging bitch sometimes but really it was like no you were fucking up my shit like move Molly when you were complaining about your grid and the pressure of your grid it really changed my life no it did I was in a really dark place then you talked about your grid stressing you out and now I feel seen no when she was like I take a thousand pictures and i delete all of them i'm like it's my favorite hobby no we love you we love my may um quick update we have we added more live shows y'all we added more live shows we're in nashville new orleans st augustine hollywood florida tacoma, Washington, Portland, Oregon, Las Vegas, Nevada, Salt Lake City, Utah.
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When are you going to Alabama?
I think next month.
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