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Speaker 3 Hello, everybody.

Speaker 3 Wow.

Speaker 4 Welcome to Love It or Leave It at the Bourbon Room.

Speaker 4 Never been here before, that's exciting. Different arrangement of people,

Speaker 4 different shape.

Speaker 4 Still can bring the energy down all the way to zero.

Speaker 4 The challenge of bringing it back up.

Speaker 4 On the show tonight, Kumail Nanjiani goes all in on nerding out.

Speaker 4 Zachary Quinto stops by and the prognosis is gay as hell.

Speaker 4 Jane Fonda is here.

Speaker 4 And then Louis Bertel will appear once we say Jane's Jane's name three times.

Speaker 4 But first, let's get into it. What a week.

Speaker 4 Kamala Harris and Donald Trump met for the first time at their presidential debate on Tuesday night, with Harris offering her hand for a handshake after the two walked out, and Trump accepted.

Speaker 4 That must have been a tough call for Kamala. On the one hand, it's a power move, bitch.

Speaker 4 On the other hand, you know it's got to feel like having your fingers swallowed up by an uncooked chicken

Speaker 4 it's not important but like as part of the handshake strategy you think you want to do something like a little weird with your hand you know that thing where somebody like scratches the inside of your hand of the handshake you feel weird after what's he gonna do talk about it

Speaker 4 In an early exchange on abortion, Trump elicited this fact check from ABC moderator Lindsey Davis. There is no state in this country where it is legal to kill a baby after it's born.

Speaker 4 Not even if it's baby Hitler.

Speaker 4 Trump shot back, winning the debate instantly.

Speaker 4 Harris turned to Trump and addressed him directly during an impassioned defense of abortion rights.

Speaker 7 You want to talk about this is what people wanted?

Speaker 7 Pregnant women who want to carry a pregnancy to term, suffering from a miscarriage, being denied care in an emergency room because the health care providers are afraid they might go to jail and she's bleeding out in a car in the parking lot.

Speaker 7 She didn't want that.

Speaker 8 Her husband didn't want that.

Speaker 4 It is such a relief to see a Democratic candidate make this argument with the force and feeling it deserves right in Trump's unique face.

Speaker 4 This must be how casting directors feel when it's 10 hours of auditions for a period film. No one's been able to say the lines because their blindingly white veneers are too big.

Speaker 4 You haven't seen one person with buccal fat, and then just when you're losing hope, Olivia Coleman walks in.

Speaker 4 Trump also repeatedly refused to say that he would veto a national abortion ban if it came to his desk because he would sign it.

Speaker 4 And he's going to try to ban abortion nationally by executive order if he can get away with it.

Speaker 9 Yes.

Speaker 4 Trump is saying he may order a side salad, but he's not saying he won't eat fries because he knows damn well that the plan is fries for the table.

Speaker 4 Starting about half an hour in, Harris began baiting Trump relentlessly.

Speaker 7 And I'm going to actually do something really unusual, and I'm going to invite you to attend one of Donald Trump's rallies because it's a really interesting thing to watch.

Speaker 7 He talks about fictional characters like Hannibal Lecter.

Speaker 7 He will talk about windmills cause cancer. And what you will also notice is that people start leaving his rallies early out of exhaustion and boredom.

Speaker 7 And I will tell you, the one thing you will not hear him talk about is you.

Speaker 4 Yeah, applaud that, sure.

Speaker 4 Now, Trump, prepped by his team of elite advisors to be happy, Trump, and focus on policy, refused to take the bait.

Speaker 4 Instead, he pivoted to his prepared hit to tie Kamala Harris to Joe Biden and Americans' concerns about the border.

Speaker 11 What's the mirror spond is to the rallies? She said people start leaving. People don't go to her rallies.
There's no reason to go.

Speaker 11 And the people that do go, she's busting them in and paying them to be there and then showing them in a different light. So she can't talk about that.
People don't leave my rallies.

Speaker 11 We have the biggest rallies, the most incredible rallies in the history of politics.

Speaker 4 It's crazy that Kamala got under his skin so easily when a bullet bounced right off of him.

Speaker 4 I don't know. I don't know.
I don't know. What do you think? Leave it in? It's okay.

Speaker 13 All right.

Speaker 10 Year looks fantastic.

Speaker 4 In that same answer, Trump then went fully off the rails, repeating the lie about Haitian immigrants abducting and eating pets.

Speaker 11 Our country is being lost. We're a failing nation.
And look at what's happening to the towns all over the United States. And a lot of towns don't want to talk about it.

Speaker 11 It's not going to be Aurora or Springfield. A lot of towns don't want to talk about it because they're so embarrassed by it.

Speaker 11 In Springfield, they're eating the dogs, the people that came in, they're eating the cats,

Speaker 9 They're eating the pets of the people that live there.

Speaker 4 The bard at his best.

Speaker 4 A fantastic, I believe, trochaic diameter.

Speaker 14 I don't know. That's what it is.

Speaker 4 Might be Anapest. I don't remember what Anapest is.

Speaker 4 I feel so so bad for low-information voters who tuned into this debate to try to figure out what's going on. It's like turning on a random season of selling sunset and going, I'm sure I can catch up.

Speaker 4 No.

Speaker 4 You don't even know which bald twin Crochet dated before that Australian turned her gay.

Speaker 4 Here's how Trump reacted to a fact check of that lie.

Speaker 15 I just want to clarify here. You bring up Springfield, Ohio, and ABC News did reach out to the city manager there.

Speaker 10 He told us there have been no credible reports of specific claims of pets being harmed, injured, or abused by individuals within the immigrant community.

Speaker 15 I've seen people on television. Let me just say.

Speaker 4 Continued Trump, why I'm on television saying it right now.

Speaker 4 There's one aspect of this,

Speaker 4 it's not the most important part, but... Trump says twice that cities are embarrassed.
They don't want to admit what's taking place.

Speaker 4 And in response to Mira, Trump says, well, sure, of course, the city manager is going to say that.

Speaker 4 And I do think that it's worth pointing out that what's going on here, which is Trump's position is that city officials are dealing with an uptake of local pets being eaten by out-of-towners,

Speaker 4 but don't want to talk about it because I guess it's bad for tourism.

Speaker 4 Both the mayor of Springfield and Ohio governor and Republican Mike DeWine confirmed this week that there is no credible evidence of Haitian immigrants eating people's pets.

Speaker 4 Said DeWine, this is something that came up on the internet, and the internet can be quite crazy sometimes yeah first that dress was two different colors and now this

Speaker 4 crazy

Speaker 4 but back to the debate after Trump lied about having had nothing to do with January 6th and continued to insist that he won the 2020 election Harris hit him with this line Donald Trump was fired by 81 million people so let's be clear about that and clearly he's having a very difficult time processing that

Speaker 4 okay that's sort of unfair to Trump because of course it's hard to process it most of of his processing power is being spent stopping himself from saying the N-word and the C-word during this debate.

Speaker 4 When pressed on whether he had a plan to replace Obamacare, Trump said this.

Speaker 20 Yes or no, you still do not have a plan.

Speaker 11 I have concepts of a plan.

Speaker 4 I do want to point out.

Speaker 4 In 2015, Trump said he would, quote, replace Obamacare with something terrific.

Speaker 4 During the presidential transition, before he took office, he he said Obamacare replacement was very much formulated down to the final strokes.

Speaker 4 Then in 2019, as Axios points out, he promised his Obamacare replacement would come after the 2020 election.

Speaker 4 Quote, if we win the House back, keep the Senate and keep the presidency, we'll have a plan that blows away Obamacare.

Speaker 4 He even went so far as to say, we're signing a healthcare plan within two weeks, a full and complete health care plan. Donald Trump makes George R.R.
Martin look like Stephen King.

Speaker 4 It has been almost a decade since Trump said his Obamacare replacement was formulated down to the final strokes.

Speaker 4 Talking about writing something for a decade instead of actually writing it, most relatable Trump has ever been.

Speaker 4 But that's just who Trump is, a perfectionist.

Speaker 4 And then, in a moment of frustration, Trump blurted out this gem.

Speaker 11 Now she wants to do transgender operations on illegal aliens that are in prison.

Speaker 4 It's tough for Trump that by the time he said this, he was so sputtering and angry and manic that he sounded nuts when this is like not an unfair rendering of a very reasonable position, which is people held in federal custody should have access to necessary medical care as prescribed by the doctors and nurses providing that care.

Speaker 4 Oh, I'm sorry, it's just in. Shut up, John.

Speaker 13 Just let him sound nuts.

Speaker 4 That's crazy, am I right?

Speaker 4 If Kamala's victory wasn't clear from the strange lightness in all of our chests, take it from the voters. In a CNN snap poll of Debate Watcher, 63% thought Harris won and 37% thought Trump won.

Speaker 4 Now it's time to sit back, relax, and wait to see if undecided voters think it's off-putting when a woman wins the debate.

Speaker 4 Something about that I don't like.

Speaker 4 Even Fox News's Britt Hume had to hand it to her.

Speaker 21 She was composed. She was prepared.
She kept her cool. She saw advantages.
She took them. She baited him successfully, which is the story of the debate, in my view.

Speaker 21 So she came out ahead in this, in my opinion,

Speaker 21 no doubt.

Speaker 4 Yeah, sure.

Speaker 4 Democrats in North Carolina are applauding Dick Cheney. We're applauding Britt Hume.
It's okay.

Speaker 23 It's okay.

Speaker 4 Britt Hume is one compliment away from saying she was a pleasure to have in class.

Speaker 4 On Wednesday, Trump called it to Fox and Friends to whine about the moderators. I think we did great.
It was three to one.

Speaker 4 It was a rigged deal, as I assumed it would be, because when you looked at the fact that they were correcting everything

Speaker 4 and not correcting with her.

Speaker 4 It's so unfair. I was throwing food and silverware at the waiter, and other people were also present at the restaurant.

Speaker 4 And yet, only I was asked to leave.

Speaker 4 The work in the refs, like the moderators are to blame, it's absolutely killing me.

Speaker 4 Like, obviously, there's the, he's lying the whole time, so they're gonna fact-check him more than they fact-check her.

Speaker 4 Even the way they had to fact-check her after to make it seem like it's fair was ridiculous because the fact-checks of Kamala Harris are like, well, technically, that's not a combat zone, but the fact checks of Donald Trump are like, actually, they're not eating dogs in the Midwest.

Speaker 4 But even if you put that aside, like.

Speaker 4 Kamala was so good in that debate that she made dodging hard questions, of which she got several, look easy. She didn't take the bait.
She turned them on Donald Trump.

Speaker 4 That answer where she talks about how people are walking out of his rallies because they're bored, that question was about immigration, one of the toughest questions she got in the whole debate, but she immediately figured out how to set a little trap for Trump.

Speaker 4 But it wasn't even like a well-built trap, it was a hole in the ground that just said, hey, Trump.

Speaker 4 It's McDonald's down there. It's like,

Speaker 4 this is not my fault.

Speaker 4 I'm down here because of unfairness.

Speaker 4 And there's no McDonald's.

Speaker 4 Following the debate on Tuesday night, as if we weren't having enough fun, Taylor Swift came out in support of Kamala Harris.

Speaker 4 We got Taylor Swift. We got Dick Cheney.
All we need is some YouTuber I've never heard of who reviews public bathrooms for tens of millions of viewers, and we just might win this thing.

Speaker 4 In her Instagram post, the singer said she was moved to clarify her stance after Donald Trump reposted an AI endorsement claiming Swift was backing him, which is a reminder, we need an AI image where Taylor claims she would never go on Love It or Leave It.

Speaker 4 Let's get that out there.

Speaker 4 Taylor Swift, and I would never go on that gay podcast.

Speaker 4 Taylor said of Harris, I think she is steady-handed.

Speaker 26 gifted.

Speaker 4 I believe we can accomplish so much more in this country if we are led by calm and not chaos. You know what I appreciate about Taylor Swift?

Speaker 4 If she is going to endorse, she's going to do the research into the most effective message. Calm over chaos, she does the work.

Speaker 4 She's She's Pete Buddhajudge in a leotard, and I mean that as a compliment in both directions.

Speaker 4 The singer ended her endorsement with a sign-off with Love and Hope, Taylor Swift, Childless Cat Lady.

Speaker 4 That proves it. She's pregnant and it's Carly, said a pansexual Swifty with bloodshot eyes in front of her six computer monitors.

Speaker 4 And in case you didn't wake up to find your skin crawling across the room, Elon Musk also weighed in on the Taylor Swift endorsement. I know.

Speaker 4 How many of you are oohing because you're afraid of what it is?

Speaker 4 And how many of you are oohing because you know what it is?

Speaker 4 What's wrong with us?

Speaker 4 That makes me so sad. I would have been so much better for all of us if I got to tell you because what it would represent about you not knowing.

Speaker 4 Something to think about. We'll work on it after the election.
Let's put it on the list of things we work on after the election.

Speaker 4 Here's what Elon tweeted. He said, Fine, Taylor, you win.
I will give you a child and guard your cats with my life.

Speaker 4 Then Musk reached into a big pile of babies, grabbed one by the scrub of the neck, and tweeted, How about this one? I think its name is Roboticus Maximus or some shit.

Speaker 4 That is the tweet of a man who doesn't know what Travis Kelsey looks like or what he does for work.

Speaker 4 Megan Kelly also lost her shit over Swift's endorsement.

Speaker 27 I'm like, you can kiss your sales to the Republican audience.

Speaker 1 Goodbye, Taylor.

Speaker 27 Hope you enjoyed them while you had them. This is disgusting.
If she wants to vote Harris Waltz, she can do it all she wants.

Speaker 27 But to say the reason she's doing it is because of Tim Walz's stance on LGBTQ FU Taylor Swift.

Speaker 4 Megan Kelly's surprise would make sense if Taylor Swift hadn't also encouraged people to vote against Marsha Blackburn in 2018 and for Joe Biden in 2020.

Speaker 4 In fact, during the ERAS tour, she said from the stage during Pride, and I quote, there have been so many harmful pieces of legislation that have put people in the LGBTQ community and queer community at risk.

Speaker 4 That's why I'm always posting. This is when the midterms are.
This is when these important key primaries are.

Speaker 4 She also encouraged her fans to do the research into politicians asking, Are they advocates? Are they allies? Are they protectors of equality? This is during the ERAS tour.

Speaker 4 She's been doing this for years.

Speaker 4 Could she do more? Of course, but more than 400,000 people clicked over to the voter registration link Swift provided in the 24 hours after that post went live. Taylor Swift is like a nuclear arsenal.

Speaker 4 I don't think something this powerful should exist, but since it does, I'm glad she's on our side.

Speaker 4 Meanwhile, when asked this week what he would have done if he was in Mike Pence's shoes on January 6th, Jared from Subway Parte du Vance said,

Speaker 4 They're getting a little broke.

Speaker 4 He said he wouldn't have certified the election. Either way, it's a good thing Vance wasn't in Pence's shoes that day.
Pence would have never escaped that mob barefoot.

Speaker 4 Glass all over the ground.

Speaker 4 Delaware state senator and friend of the show, Sarah McBride, won her Democratic primary for Delaware's lone house seat on Tuesday.

Speaker 4 She now is likely to be elected the first openly transgender member of Congress.

Speaker 4 Welcome to a workplace where half of your colleagues hate you before you've even set foot through the door. You'll get used to it, said Joshua Marketing, who makes tuna melts at 11 a.m.

Speaker 4 every day and signs his emails. Cheers.

Speaker 4 Speaking of groundbreaking women, Melania Trump released a bizarre series of

Speaker 16 whatever.

Speaker 4 Bizarre series of videos this week. She really did.
It's wild.

Speaker 4 As she's promoting her forthcoming memoir, Melania.

Speaker 10 Let's take a listen.

Speaker 6 The attempt to end my husband's life was a horrible, distressing experience.

Speaker 6 Now, the silence around it feels heavy.

Speaker 6 I can't help but wonder, why didn't law enforcement officials arrest the shooter before the speech

Speaker 4 as they bandaged up my husband's ear I couldn't help but wonder is there something I wasn't hearing

Speaker 4 Foo Fighter's front man.

Speaker 16 Whatever.

Speaker 14 We're going to talk about it.

Speaker 4 Dave Grohl announced on Tuesday that he'd fathered a child outside of his 20-year marriage. Well, there goes your hero.

Speaker 4 Wow, is he here?

Speaker 4 Two incredible bands, two incredible families. This guy never stops working.

Speaker 4 Speaking of people trapped in a tomb of their own making, researchers

Speaker 4 analyzed the remains of people buried in a Milanese crypt. Milanese.

Speaker 4 The remains of people buried in an Italian crypt

Speaker 4 in the 1600s. They found evidence that Europeans were using cocaine centuries earlier than previously thought.
But researchers couldn't tell because it seemed like they really had their shit together.

Speaker 4 This does feel obvious. No one's ever said, I have an idea for an opera while not on cocaine.

Speaker 4 Speaking of the cosmos, two astronauts completed the first ever commercial spacewalk on Thursday morning in a collaboration between SpaceX and billionaire entrepreneur Jared Isaacman.

Speaker 4 Said Isaacman, while standing in the hatch, back at home, we all have work to do. But from here, Earth sure looks like a perfect world.
Okay, shut up, Jared.

Speaker 4 You don't get to do your one small step for man. No one cares.
And we all talked about it. We're going to pretend you were never even up there.
Billionaires in space.

Speaker 4 It's either the end of the bad joke or the beginning of a policy solution Jared won't like.

Speaker 4 John Bon Jovi successfully talked a distraught woman off a Nashville Bridge this week.

Speaker 17 It's true.

Speaker 4 Because it's always darkest before the dawn, Bon Jovi.

Speaker 4 Well, that came too late.

Speaker 4 As we all know, 28% of likely voters told the New York Times that they felt they needed to know more about Kamala Harris, and two-thirds of those voters specifically wanted to learn more about her policies.

Speaker 4 Another day, we can lament the fact that this is an election between a mainstream Democratic figure who will pursue popular center-left economic policies while appointing judges and officials who believe in abortion rights and gay rights and antitrust regulations and climate change and unions, while the other is the worst president in American history.

Speaker 4 But not today. Today, we're not going to judge or complain.

Speaker 4 We're going to recognize that many people aren't hyper-engaged partisans, some people are just tuning in, and all of us are drowning in cynical bullshit designed to dispirit us while obliterating our attention spans.

Speaker 4 That's why we've invited the incredible Candace Kane to pole dance while I read Kamala Harris's policy page out loud to you now. In a special segment,

Speaker 4 in a special segment,

Speaker 4 we're calling Pole Watchers. Wait, I'm coming over here.

Speaker 4 Hi, Candace. Thank you for being here.

Speaker 4 I'm going to stand right here. Hi, Jane Fonda.

Speaker 4 So here, let's go.

Speaker 15 Okay.

Speaker 17 Here we go.

Speaker 4 Under the Kamala-Harris Plan, more than 100 million working and middle-class Americans will get a tax cut by restoring the child tax credit and the earned income tax credit.

Speaker 4 They will also expand the child tax credit to provide a $6,000 tax cut to families with newborn, wow, newborn children.

Speaker 4 Holy shit. Vice President Harris has a plan to build 3 million more rental units and homes that are affordable to end the national housing crisis in her first term.

Speaker 4 And she will cut red tape, penalize firms that houses that

Speaker 4 hoard available homes to drive up prices for local homebuyers and sign legislation to outlaw price fixing by corporate landlords.

Speaker 4 She will also provide first-time homebuyers with up to $25,000 to help with their down payments.

Speaker 4 Kamala will expand the startup tax credit for new businesses from $5,000 to $50,000 to hit a goal of 25 million new business applications by the end of her first term.

Speaker 4 So high up. Vice President Harris will extend the Biden administration's $35 cap on insulin and $2,000 cap on out-of-pocket spending for seniors to all Americans.

Speaker 4 Her tie-breaking vote on the Inflation Reduction Act gave Medicare the power to negotiate lower drug prices. As president, she'll cover more drugs.

Speaker 4 As vice president, she helped cancel $7 billion of medical debt for 3 million Americans.

Speaker 4 as president she'll cancel medical debt for even more Americans and that's just the beginning so be like Candace and make sure you and your friends and families hit the polls and hit them hard

Speaker 4 please give it up for the wonderful Candace Kane you can see her perform at Rocco's Wio this Saturday at the Ventura County Fairgrounds on September 28th and 29th and follow at sweet miss candace on Instagram and if you want to help get voters attention but can't quite get your ankles behind your head go to votesaveamerica.com slash 2024 and sign up to volunteer.

Speaker 4 When we come back, Kumil Nanjiani's here.

Speaker 18 Candace Kane.

Speaker 16 Come on.

Speaker 13 Wow.

Speaker 4 Did you see that? Jane Fonda, did you see that? All right.

Speaker 4 Candace Kane, everybody.

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Speaker 4 Please put your hands together for the second biggest nerd on the show tonight. Come on, I got to read these intros beforehand.
It's the one and only Kume Mangiani.

Speaker 13 Hi.

Speaker 16 Hi.

Speaker 31 Oh my God.

Speaker 4 It's good to see you.

Speaker 8 Thanks for having me. That is a tough act to follow.

Speaker 8 What do you want me to do? I can only go halfway up that pole.

Speaker 4 Dear Diary.

Speaker 8 I love this venue, by the way. They were able to accommodate my cat-only diet.

Speaker 8 Thank you.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it's perfect. Okay.

Speaker 4 I made a joke, and only the person on stage heard it. That's how you know I'm a showman.
I saw you in the new season of Only Murders in the Building. So before we get started, who did it?

Speaker 8 I will tell you who did it.

Speaker 5 He wouldn't. He's a pro.

Speaker 8 If we do a vote and more people want to know, I will tell.

Speaker 4 Is it hard to keep the secret?

Speaker 8 No, because I know I'll never work again if I tell.

Speaker 16 Right, right.

Speaker 8 Threat of hunger is a very good motivator.

Speaker 4 So when we reach out to you, we said, hey, what are you watching? We thought, oh, it might be something that's been made in the last like 20 years.

Speaker 22 Incorrect.

Speaker 4 You're watching the old Ninja Turtles cartoons, and you're watching the old Batman the Animated series. Is that right?

Speaker 25 No.

Speaker 8 so I'm watching

Speaker 22 No. No.
Thank you for

Speaker 12 next question.

Speaker 22 No

Speaker 8 There's okay. There is a new Batman animated show that is really

Speaker 22 that's really good.

Speaker 8 However, I am watching some old shows. I am watching my so-called life for the first time

Speaker 8 So it's my wife's favorite one of her favorite shows. I've just never seen it.
I started watching it and I ball every episode.

Speaker 8 I watched this episode today called The Zit where she like gets a zit on her chin and at the end I had to like put my life back together. I like fell apart.

Speaker 8 I'm watching Ninja Turtles because there's a thing on Amazon Prime. I don't want to bleep this out.
I don't want to promote anything.

Speaker 8 On freebie, they just have channels of stuff that are playing. And there's like a whole Ninja Turtles channel.

Speaker 8 And you turn it on and some random Ninja Turtles episode is playing and i have it on while i work out or when i eat lunch okay

Speaker 8 you asked man no and you brought it up i wasn't like hey i gotta tell you about freevie

Speaker 8 remember krang of course i saw him today

Speaker 4 he was the best

Speaker 4 riding around in a dude yeah kind of weird dude yeah why do you get yourself put there go higher up you're the brain why are you installed in the stomach that's such a good thing.

Speaker 4 It doesn't make any sense. You could put yourself anywhere.
You're waist height.

Speaker 4 You're the smartest being in the multiverse. Go on the head.

Speaker 9 Yeah, go in the normal part of where the brain goes.

Speaker 4 Doesn't make any sense. Never made any sense.

Speaker 8 The rest of this is just going to be ninja turtles riffs.

Speaker 8 I don't mean just me. Jane Fonda is going to come up and talk about Donatello for a while.

Speaker 4 If we talk about ninja turtles in front of Jane Fonda,

Speaker 4 we'll burst into flames.

Speaker 33 I think we are.

Speaker 14 All right.

Speaker 4 As we've now hit what scientists call the home stretch or silent screaming portion of the election,

Speaker 4 I've let my true love fall by the wayside, which is being a huge nerd, which is why we're going to burn through the latest in nerd news together, Kamal, in a lightning round we're calling Only Nerders in the Building.

Speaker 8 It's a good name. I like it.
I like it. You're a little too proud of it?

Speaker 18 Yeah.

Speaker 8 That doesn't mean it's not good.

Speaker 4 Yeah, no, I know. I should have let it speak for itself.

Speaker 8 Yeah, throw it away.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I should have thrown it away.

Speaker 10 What's it called?

Speaker 4 Only nerders in the building.

Speaker 25 Oh, that's good.

Speaker 4 All right, I'm going to read you some nerd news and we'll just get your reaction to it.

Speaker 33 Yeah, let's talk about it.

Speaker 4 First up in nerd news, Ian McKellen says Peter Jackson's new upcoming live-action Lord of the Rings movie, The Hunt for Gollum, will in fact be two movies.

Speaker 4 Someone is booing that. They're booing two movies.
How do you feel about that?

Speaker 8 About them being two movies?

Speaker 4 They're breaking it up. They're always breaking them up into two movies now.

Speaker 8 Well, my favorite, I mean, the first ones are broken up into three movies. I know there were three books to, we're not the only nerders in the building, but

Speaker 4 it's catchy. It's sketchy gone.

Speaker 15 People are talking about it.

Speaker 8 More in McKellen as Gandalf. I mean, I can't say I'll take 10 more movies, you know?

Speaker 18 I agree completely.

Speaker 8 Yeah, so I'm really into it.

Speaker 4 I agree completely. I remember when

Speaker 4 they broke up the one about Smaug.

Speaker 4 Smaug. Smaug.

Speaker 8 Yeah, they broke up the one. They broke one book into three movies.

Speaker 8 Yeah, and that's way tougher.

Speaker 31 Yeah.

Speaker 4 And Smaug is the J.R. Tolkien version of Scrooge McDuck.
Yes. That's how I think about it.
That's exactly right.

Speaker 8 You love saying Smaug.

Speaker 15 Smaug.

Speaker 8 It's fun to say.

Speaker 4 It is fun to say.

Speaker 8 I've gone years without saying Smaug, and now I relapsed.

Speaker 22 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Kevin Francis, a friend of the the late Peter Cushing, is suing Lucasfilm over their digital recreation of the actor's 2016 Rogue One, a Star Wars story.

Speaker 4 Francis claims that he must authorize any recreation of Cushing's image following an agreement he made with Cushing in 1993, one year before his death.

Speaker 4 Lucasfilm claims he didn't need his permission to recreate Cushing's image due to the original contract for 1977's Star Wars, though.

Speaker 4 Though, they did pay the estate a chunk of money when they called saying, hey, what's going on?

Speaker 9 Well, okay.

Speaker 8 So who's this guy?

Speaker 17 He's a friend.

Speaker 4 He's a friend. He's a friend who's showing up now to say, you needed to get my permission.

Speaker 8 You know what? I'm going to do this for you. If I die, and they want to use me, you're the guy.

Speaker 31 Hell yeah.

Speaker 4 Hell yeah. You got to go through me.
You got to go through me.

Speaker 8 I like that I started with if I die. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Well, it's just well, because they're going to come to me the students. We got an idea.
We got an idea. It's called She's in a Coma Again.

Speaker 22 And then,

Speaker 4 well, you're dead. You're dead.
They're coming to me.

Speaker 4 And I'm like, I think he'd love it.

Speaker 22 Yeah.

Speaker 8 He told me he really wanted to do a sequel.

Speaker 4 But it's going to cost you. Yeah.

Speaker 8 Well, how do you feel about them resurrecting deceased people for our entertainment?

Speaker 4 Hey, hey. Don't boo just objective descriptions of what's happening.

Speaker 18 Yeah.

Speaker 10 That is what's happening.

Speaker 8 That's what's going to be at entertainment. They're not coming to be like, well, go register to vote.

Speaker 4 Which is what

Speaker 9 I would be interested in.

Speaker 4 Just

Speaker 4 Ian Holmes from Alien and Peter Cushing,

Speaker 4 just in a row,

Speaker 4 character telling everybody to vote.

Speaker 8 I think you got to bring back, just to really do it, bring back like dead dictators to be like, you should vote. And you're like, oh my God,

Speaker 8 if Mussolini's saying that,

Speaker 4 I better do it. You guys

Speaker 4 Do you guys see Saddam's TikTok? It's like actually pretty persuasive. I think it was a little in poor taste to have Prince and Saddam doing it together.

Speaker 9 Yeah.

Speaker 8 I didn't know Saddam could harmonize.

Speaker 22 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Neither did he.

Speaker 22 I thought harmony was not his strength.

Speaker 4 So

Speaker 4 see, I could do wordplay, too.

Speaker 8 I know that the relatives are the ones who are giving permission. I would not want to see my grandfather or my grand.

Speaker 8 I'm getting emotional. I would not want to see them again on screen saying words that they never said.

Speaker 8 For me,

Speaker 8 that personally would be a violation for me. But I mean, you know,

Speaker 9 that's how I feel.

Speaker 9 Well,

Speaker 8 it's the family members that are giving permission.

Speaker 4 Yes, except then, but then it's like, okay, but like...

Speaker 4 Yes, in some sense it belongs to them, but in some sense it doesn't belong to anyone.

Speaker 4 But then on the other hand, like we're not uncomfortable with, say, like an actor spending months and months working to be like a person who passed away and doing it in a biopic, right?

Speaker 4 Like, no one was like, oh no, Will Smith can't play. Well, I guess Muhammad Ali was alive at the time.

Speaker 8 Yeah, but that's different. That's not like that person's actual, like, they try and really copy that person's actual face, you know?

Speaker 24 Right.

Speaker 26 It's a little different.

Speaker 8 I have a new plan. When I die, they can use my likeness, but only in porn.

Speaker 4 Problem solved there.

Speaker 8 You'd be like, wow, that guy works hard.

Speaker 8 I did not mean that to be a pun.

Speaker 8 I did not.

Speaker 4 WordPlay.

Speaker 4 Now they're waiting for it.

Speaker 17 Now they're expecting it. I did not.

Speaker 4 This week, Apple announced its upcoming iPhone 16, which has a variety of AI capabilities,

Speaker 4 including creating AI images.

Speaker 4 They also created, we can't show you because of technology, but they created,

Speaker 17 eh, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 4 Wait, what did they do? They created a, they create, you can make AI images with the next generation of iPhone.

Speaker 4 I think because they can't figure out how to make the iPhone any different, they're just the same year.

Speaker 8 They got to put one out every year.

Speaker 4 Every year, so now they're going to add more AI to it.

Speaker 8 I will say I am very generative AI. I am very against it.
I've actually, I'm not, I know people use it, whatever. I have never used Chat GPT.
I've never used one of those image generation ones.

Speaker 8 I think AI is against the very

Speaker 8 foundational philosophy of making art. I feel like

Speaker 8 I don't want to get on a soapbox, but this really bothers me. When I art to me is an expression of a person, it's their soul, it's their experience.

Speaker 8 And when I read a book or see a painting, I'm like, that person only in that moment could have made that.

Speaker 8 And when I see that, I get a sense of who this person was and there's intention behind it, an intention to communicate what's inside of you to outside of you. And I think AI doesn't have intention.

Speaker 8 I feel nothing when I look at AI art.

Speaker 4 So

Speaker 4 I agree with you to a point. Where I agree with you is I believe art must be, art is created by people.
Yes. And because art has meaning.
I think there was

Speaker 4 Ted Chang, who's written incredible short stories and stories throughout the arrival. He had a really beautiful essay.
talking about this. But I do think AI can be a tool for creativity.

Speaker 4 And I have played around with ChatGPT and I've played around with the image generators. And I don't think it's right to use these things to replace an artist.

Speaker 4 But there is something that happens when you have this tool at your disposal to put things together and see them so quickly that makes ideas where there wasn't an idea before.

Speaker 4 And the idea doesn't come from the computer, it comes from you. You start thinking, oh, what I never imagined how easy it would be to have SpongeBob do 9-11.
Now,

Speaker 4 you mean he didn't do it?

Speaker 4 If you believe the official story, but you know, that's a bad example.

Speaker 4 But then, then, all of a sudden, this thing is spitting out image after image of SpongeBob doing 9-11.

Speaker 9 What does that look like, my friend?

Speaker 8 What do you mean? What is the image of doing 9-11?

Speaker 8 What does that mean to a computer? Is it SpongeBob flying into the towers?

Speaker 9 Yeah.

Speaker 17 SpongeBob. Yeah.

Speaker 9 He wouldn't do any damage.

Speaker 8 He's a SpongeBob.

Speaker 4 I lost the debate.

Speaker 8 It would have to be like SpongeBob calling up Osama to be like, hey, I'm going to pitch you something.

Speaker 4 But here's what I mean. Here's what I actually mean.

Speaker 4 I'm sitting in front of Dolly, the image generator, and I think, God, what is something insane that's impossible that I'd never have thought about before?

Speaker 4 And I thought, Donald Trump on trial, but he's a giant hamburger.

Speaker 4 Now that thing spat back out at me a bunch of images of different giant hamburgers with faces, the face down here, a judge becomes a burger, then you're adding pets.

Speaker 4 You know, like now that the jury is dogs. This is what happened.
I'm a little stoned during this.

Speaker 8 Yeah, I caught that when you said the judge is a hamburger.

Speaker 8 No part of me heard. SpongeBob did did 9-11 was like oh he sounds totally sober

Speaker 4 I like that this you're like art is the truest expression of a human soul and I'm like Trump's a hamburger the judge is a hamburger that is very true good counterpoint

Speaker 4 but all I'm getting it as the possibilities that the tool presents makes your mind think of new things sure and that's what a tool can do and so as long as it's a tool and not an end as in you are the artist this is a tool as long as you think of it as a paintbrush and not a creep and not a painter I think it's okay.

Speaker 4 That's all I'm getting at.

Speaker 8 I understand that. I've never actually thought of it like that.
And I understand that.

Speaker 8 But the truth is, for instance, you know, in movies, there's a lot of, I don't want to get into this whole thing, but concept artists, right?

Speaker 8 You see people, the first person who drew a TIE fighter, right? Like that came from someone's brain. And you can see the first painting of it, and it's gorgeous.

Speaker 8 I think as time goes, those people, those artists are going to lose jobs and are going to be replaced by AI just generating soulless images that are just then going to be, and they're stolen from people who did real art, you know.

Speaker 8 I mean, when the judge was a burger.

Speaker 10 Yes.

Speaker 8 That burger is from like a burger.

Speaker 4 A collection of burgers

Speaker 4 scraped from the internet. And to be clear, I didn't profit off of this image of Donald Trump as a hamburger.
It served no purpose.

Speaker 4 I probably cost me money, frankly, because I should have been working on a podcast.

Speaker 4 But your point is valid.

Speaker 8 No, I understand. I think we both agree.

Speaker 4 Hey, you know who else came out of somebody's stomach?

Speaker 4 The alien in, well, in the aliens, but also in Total Recall.

Speaker 4 Guado, thank you.

Speaker 4 That's why you're here, and I thank you. You knew what I was searching for.

Speaker 8 Can I tell you something about Total Recall?

Speaker 10 Yes.

Speaker 4 The first

Speaker 33 breasts I saw were in that movie.

Speaker 22 And there were three of them.

Speaker 8 And I was like, I was so traumatized. I went to my my parents.
I was like, guys, I have to stop watching this movie. I have one question.

Speaker 9 How many.

Speaker 4 Well, that's one thing that AI struggles with, making sure there's an even number of breasts.

Speaker 12 Really?

Speaker 8 It just goes to prime numbers?

Speaker 33 That's not something.

Speaker 8 I know, too is a prime number.

Speaker 22 That's right.

Speaker 15 Don't make me say it.

Speaker 4 Don't make me say it.

Speaker 9 Nurders in the building.

Speaker 4 Nurders in the building.

Speaker 22 Thank you, Kumel.

Speaker 25 Thank you.

Speaker 4 Season four of Only Murders in the Building. Oh,

Speaker 16 can I also promote my tour?

Speaker 34 Yes.

Speaker 8 I'm touring right now. I'm doing stand-up.
I'm going to be, I'm going all over the place. Linktree.com slash Kamal Nanjiani.
I'm in Atlanta. I'm in Philadelphia.
I'm in Phoenix. I'm in Minneapolis.

Speaker 8 I'm in Madison. I'm in Austin.

Speaker 4 Go see Kumal on tour.

Speaker 22 Yeah, I'm not sure.

Speaker 16 I'm not Only Murders.

Speaker 18 Awesome. Season's awesome.

Speaker 16 Thank you.

Speaker 4 Kamal be back to the rainbow. Thank you, Kamel.
Can we come back? Zachly Quinto is here.

Speaker 4 Please, welcome to the stage. The first brilliant mind to grace the stage.
These are so mean to me. Come on.
These intros.

Speaker 4 Either way, give it up for the luminous Zachary Quinto.

Speaker 13 Come on out.

Speaker 4 Hi, what's happening? It's just a massive evening. Yeah, sit here.

Speaker 4 Thank you for being here.

Speaker 17 Thanks for having me.

Speaker 12 Hi, everybody.

Speaker 16 Yes!

Speaker 18 That's what I want to hear.

Speaker 4 What was your favorite part of the debate?

Speaker 12 My favorite part of the debate was when it was over.

Speaker 12 I just cannot believe that this is the discourse that we are putting forth as the level of presidential politics in this country. It is absolutely staggering to me.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it is where we've arrived.

Speaker 23 It's wild.

Speaker 4 Honestly, it's crazy.

Speaker 12 In our lifetime, I know.

Speaker 12 I have nothing but admiration and respect for Kamala Harris, and I think she's been doing a fantastic job.

Speaker 12 But I don't know. I just feel really like we're talking about other things than politics actually in this.

Speaker 4 I think we are too. I remember after the first presidential debate, you know, the one, that last one,

Speaker 17 and we all remember it.

Speaker 4 And there were people, actually, Reagan did quite badly in his first presidential debate in 1984.

Speaker 4 And I was like, oh, I'm going to take this at face value, and I'll go back and check out this debate in 1984. It is Socrates and Plato.

Speaker 12 Truly.

Speaker 4 He's talking about the budget and the complexities of budget.

Speaker 12 We've jumped the tracks, I think. And the reality is, as far as I'm concerned, that this is not a referendum on policies or positions.
It's actually a referendum on consciousness. And

Speaker 12 what we're seeing in the world right now, as far as I can tell, is that there are these unprecedented seismic shifts on a civilizational level.

Speaker 12 And these constructs that we've built for ourselves, the binary way of looking at things, they don't work anymore. They just don't work anymore.

Speaker 12 And so, how do we have the conversation about where we go from here? And there was really none of that substance in the debate.

Speaker 10 It was really to me,

Speaker 12 you know, again, it was just a

Speaker 12 facade of something, actually.

Speaker 12 And that was concerning.

Speaker 4 Just two points.

Speaker 4 Have you ever thought about asking

Speaker 4 a computer to make a picture of the earth as a hamburger?

Speaker 4 It actually really helps.

Speaker 15 Can I tell you a story?

Speaker 12 I was on Instagram.

Speaker 4 No, I love Instagram.

Speaker 17 Have you heard of it?

Speaker 18 Yeah.

Speaker 12 And I was presented with this quote, and I thought, oh my god, this quote is so beautiful. It was about, you know, you'll look back on this time.
No, I can't read it.

Speaker 12 I mean, it's probably on my phone, but I don't have my phone. But I read this quote, and I really thought about it, you know? And and it was it was attributed to this writer.

Speaker 12 And

Speaker 12 I thought, oh, how interesting. And I've never heard of this writer before, but what a what a, you know, prescient way of looking at things.
And

Speaker 12 I

Speaker 12 went and I looked up who this writer was, and it's like an influencer. It's like a person who I believe actually generated this quote from chat GPT

Speaker 12 and presented it and then created and was publishing books and has a whole, like, I don't even want to say their name because I don't want to give them any credence or value because it, I mean, I sent it to people.

Speaker 12 I was like, I saved it. I was like, oh my God, I'm going to really share it.

Speaker 4 What's interesting about that, right, is like there was meaning in it that you drew and something to you and it wouldn't have otherwise existed in the world.

Speaker 4 I think just to bring it back to what we were talking about with the debate, I think one reason you're not going to see that discussed in a debate is because a debate can't, this kind of debate can't be about that.

Speaker 4 But what Trump represents, I think everybody is responding to uncertainty and this feeling of insecurity, whether it's economic or social, a sense that the world is changing faster than we can adapt to it.

Speaker 4 Some react to that by finding someone in whom they can put certainty, someone who can say, I can fix it. This is actually easier than it looks.
It's these villains that are causing it.

Speaker 4 It's these dummies that are causing it. It's these enemies that are causing it.
And then I do think on the Democratic side, we haven't done enough to speak to that deeper worry you're talking about.

Speaker 4 But the gut instinct of, I think, mainstream Democratic politicians is to try to address the consequences of the uncertainty, right? Like the economic fallout, right? Like

Speaker 4 the sense of housing insecurity or

Speaker 4 food insecurity or international insecurities to actually kind of lay out the policy agenda.

Speaker 4 But I think one of the reasons we live in a 50-50 country as opposed to a 60-40 or 70-30 country as we all imagine it should be because what the fuck is I think because we don't do enough to have, we have to step back and take the time to think about these deeper questions.

Speaker 4 But there's never any time because we're always running for president.

Speaker 12 But also, like, how do we just engage one another from a place of

Speaker 12 looking beyond the things that we've allowed to define us, right?

Speaker 4 Like, I think micro-dosing will be a part of it. Say it again.
I think micro-dosing will probably be a big part of how we get to the other side of it.

Speaker 4 So

Speaker 4 you play a doctor. I do.
In this NBC drama called Brilliant Minds about Dr. Oliver Sachs, which I was really excited about because I think Oliver Sachs is such a cool figure.

Speaker 13 One thought,

Speaker 4 some actors can play a doctor, some simply cannot. I know you can.
I appreciate that, John.

Speaker 12 Thank you so much.

Speaker 4 And it's not a smart, dumb thing. There's doctor, not doctor.

Speaker 17 You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 12 I will say, you know, to actually be in a position where I can say I'm not a doctor, but I play one on TV, it's kind of cool. You know, like,

Speaker 12 it's actually really special to me. And I can say it earnestly and with authenticity now.

Speaker 4 That's so cool.

Speaker 4 Do people know about Oliver Sachs? So, Oliver Sachs.

Speaker 4 Do we know Oliver Sachs?

Speaker 4 A neurologist, he wrote

Speaker 12 The Man Who Mistook His Wife for a Hat.

Speaker 9 The Man Who Mistook His Wife for a Hat.

Speaker 18 Yeah.

Speaker 12 He's on Mars.

Speaker 4 And if you haven't read the books, the movie The Awakenings.

Speaker 4 Awakenings. Awakenings, not the Simply Awakenings.
And we all know that. With Robin Williams and Robert Jeaniro.

Speaker 12 Directed by Penny Marshall.

Speaker 4 Directed by Penny Marshall.

Speaker 12 A fantastic movie.

Speaker 17 Fantastic movie.

Speaker 4 Based on Oliver Sachs. Yeah.

Speaker 12 Oliver Sachs was a world-renowned, iconic neurologist. He was also considered by the New York Times the poet laureate of medicine.

Speaker 12 He was someone who was

Speaker 12 inspired and driven by the idea of finding dignity in his patients. And he would often say, ask not what disease the patient has, ask what patient the disease has.
Where is the person?

Speaker 12 And you know, we're a medical show that's dramatizing neurological disorders.

Speaker 12 So, you know, you think about all of these amazing medical shows that have come before us, and oftentimes people come in with a gunshot wound or an illness or an injury or a disease that has to be cured.

Speaker 12 And in our show, oftentimes there is no fix, there is no cure, there is no returning to normal. And so, how do we adapt? How do we evolve?

Speaker 12 And, you know, we're dealing with the brain, which is the seat of consciousness, right and so there is a limitlessness to that and there is i mean i can't tell you how many times i read scripts early in the season where i was like well that's fucking not real and it's absolutely real you know the things that the brain can do and the ways in which the brain can

Speaker 12 turn on itself and uh you know uh change and and present adversities that you'd never imagine it's really spectacular um

Speaker 12 all of the other thing about this show like it's based on oliver sacks but it's a fictional character right so i play this character, all of the attributes and aspects of the character I play are lifted from the life of Oliver Sachs himself, but yet it exists in a contemporary world and it's a fictional character.

Speaker 12 So there's this hybrid where I get all of the benefit of the source material, the books that he wrote, he wrote incredible articles. He wrote a beautiful memoir called On the Move.

Speaker 12 He did podcasts and TED Talks.

Speaker 12 He wrote an incredible book called On the River of Consciousness, which is really examining all of the people in history who tried to understand the brain and tried to understand consciousness.

Speaker 12 And he sort of went through in a chronological way

Speaker 12 and examined them himself. And, you know, in the

Speaker 12 19th and 20th centuries,

Speaker 12 case studies were the ways in which doctors learned how to treat patients, right?

Speaker 12 Because before medicine became diagnostic, before you could slide into an MRI machine and know exactly what was wrong with you, the only way you could really learn was through experience.

Speaker 12 So doctors would write case studies, very detailed, very intricate case studies about their patients,

Speaker 12 what they were like before they were ill, what they were like when they were ill, and how they dealt with the illness. And that art form really atrophied once medicine became primarily diagnostic.

Speaker 12 And Oliver Sachs was in love with that form of exploration of his patients. And so, he was really driven by that as well.
So, it's this amalgam of

Speaker 12 really looking for the person and the dignity and finding who they are in the face of what they're up against and also then articulating it and putting it into language and using language in a way that is really spectacular and beautiful.

Speaker 22 Nice.

Speaker 12 I mean, clap for him.

Speaker 4 Clap for Oliver Sachs.

Speaker 12 I only regret I never got to meet him, you know?

Speaker 12 He died in 2015 at the age of 83.

Speaker 4 He was celibate for 35 years.

Speaker 12 35

Speaker 12 years.

Speaker 4 I think that's a weird length of time to be celibate.

Speaker 12 It's an odd length of time to be celibate.

Speaker 4 It's such a long time, you know?

Speaker 12 Well, he was a product of his generation, you know? I mean,

Speaker 12 he was gay. He was gay, yes, he was gay.
He had a very complicated relationship with his mother. Both of his parents were doctors.

Speaker 12 He felt really,

Speaker 12 I think, beholden to their expectations of him. And I think in many ways, he put his patients before himself.

Speaker 12 And so it wasn't until later in his life. He ended up having a very substantive and fulfilling relationship later in his life, which I think is incredibly beautiful, which he writes about in his book.

Speaker 12 There's an incredible documentary about Oliver Sachs, which I encourage everybody to watch. He was a fascinating man.

Speaker 12 And so, to be able to play this role

Speaker 12 and to do it in a world where we get to imagine what would it have been like if Oliver Sachs had been born at a different time.

Speaker 4 So, you mentioned that you were reading about Oliver Sachs and you didn't know what was real and what was not, which is why we're going to play a game called Dr. Quinto Medicine Gay Man.

Speaker 4 And the question will be, is this a real Oliver Sachs case or a fake Oliver Sachs case?

Speaker 4 A man who reported hearing faint music whenever he was exposed to direct sunlight included, but not limited to, Imagine Dragons 2012 hit Radioactive.

Speaker 12 Not a real case.

Speaker 4 That's fake, yeah. A woman who saw the faces of those around her mutate and in her imagination become dragons.
Real case. Real case.

Speaker 4 A year before Oliver Sachs' death in 2015, he co-authored a case study about a Dutch woman who would see human faces morph into dragon faces, which grew long, pointy ears and a protruded snout, and

Speaker 4 a reptiloid skin and huge eyes in bright yellow, green, blue, and red.

Speaker 16 Cool.

Speaker 12 We have a version of that story on our show. Not exactly that story, but a version of it.

Speaker 4 What do they become? You know what? Don't tell us. A man who is fun and flirty to strangers, but a complete bitch to his loved ones following brain surgery.

Speaker 4 Real case. That's real.

Speaker 4 A man who mistook a fire hydrant for some kid.

Speaker 10 Real case.

Speaker 4 Yes, this comes from the same man who mistook his wife for a hat from the

Speaker 4 1998 book. In addition to the wife hat confusion, the man referred to as Dr.
P would often confuse objects and people called visual agnosia.

Speaker 12 Yep.

Speaker 16 Wow.

Speaker 4 Yeah. That's a weird one.
Right?

Speaker 4 It's a fire hydrant. Is that a kid?

Speaker 12 We have that on the show, too.

Speaker 16 It's a gift.

Speaker 4 That's good. That's a good one to do.

Speaker 14 Yeah.

Speaker 4 It's a good one. It's one of the big ones.

Speaker 12 Sweet kid, I really like the actor that played the fire hydrant.

Speaker 13 She was really good.

Speaker 12 She was real good.

Speaker 4 A woman who hallucinated a blue humanoid creature that spoke to her in gibberish.

Speaker 10 Real case. No.

Speaker 4 Kays. Fucking KK.

Speaker 17 It's drunk 30 rocks.

Speaker 4 Just kidding. It's

Speaker 4 Rachel Dratch playing the humanoid.

Speaker 4 A man whose memory goes out every 30 seconds. Real case.
That's real.

Speaker 4 He wrote about the poor bastard in his 2007 book, Musicophilia. He was a conductor who recalled his wife in music, but could not form new memories after contracting encephalitis.

Speaker 12 Yep. There's also like the idea, there's people that for whom all music sounds like

Speaker 12 rattling glass and nail. Like no matter what you're listening to, it's just like

Speaker 12 you could be listening to Beethoven or Bach, but your brain processes it and you cannot like, you know, imagine being in an elevator and it's like some soothing, you know, Kenny G version of, like, whatever.

Speaker 12 And it's, you know, that's how people hear any kind of music. Musicophilia is a really good one.
Musicophilia is a really good Oliver Sachs. Like, and he gives a really good lecture about,

Speaker 12 and when he released Musicophilia, he gave a really beautiful speech. You can look it up on YouTube.
Look him up.

Speaker 12 If you don't know him, he is just a delight. And his, and he also, you know, he suffered from prosopagnosia, which is faceblindness.
Yes.

Speaker 12 So my character on the show suffers from prosapagnosia, faceblindness. So the idea that I would see you, there's John.
Hey, John, good to see you. Nice to meet you.
We met tonight.

Speaker 12 I haven't met him before. And then I see you two days from now in the grocery store and you come up and say, hey, it was so good to see you.

Speaker 12 And I'm like, I have no idea who you are because I cannot recognize this.

Speaker 4 And everybody would just think he was being rude.

Speaker 12 Yeah, totally. But he was like, but

Speaker 12 it forces him to look deeper into the people that he's encountering, right? He has to look at them from different perspectives and different perspectives.

Speaker 32 Like what they're wearing.

Speaker 12 Yeah, what you're wearing, how your voice sounds, how you smell, how your hairline is, how your ears are, you know, what?

Speaker 4 Nothing. It's just the things you picked out made me feel weird.

Speaker 12 You smell good. One thing.

Speaker 22 Great.

Speaker 32 One

Speaker 4 from

Speaker 4 that conductor who couldn't form new memories, I actually saw a documentary based on the Albert Sachs book.

Speaker 4 And one thing that is deeply, like it makes you really kind of upset and uncomfortable is he had this journal that he would keep. And in the journal, he would write, I am now completely awake.

Speaker 4 This time it's real. This is the real me.
I am finally at long last awake.

Speaker 4 And then he would cross out, having written it the day before, and the hour before, and the time before that, because his consciousness felt completely new to him.

Speaker 4 And because he had no memory of the consciousness from the previous hour or day, it seemed like he just became alive again.

Speaker 4 And I think deja vu is just the feeling of a recollection without the substance of a memory, or maybe it's the deeper structure of the universe.

Speaker 12 Right? It could be any or all of that stuff.

Speaker 22 Wow.

Speaker 4 Can we play the other thing? I don't think we can. We don't have pictures.

Speaker 22 What are we playing?

Speaker 9 We have pictures.

Speaker 4 We can do it. Oh, pictures.

Speaker 18 All right.

Speaker 4 The pictures? Can we make the sound?

Speaker 12 Who are the pictures of?

Speaker 16 Oh.

Speaker 4 And you know what that sound means?

Speaker 4 It's time for a lightning round game we call, Would You Fuck This Doctor?

Speaker 17 What is that?

Speaker 8 Who is that with me?

Speaker 35 Oh, it's me. It's me.

Speaker 22 It's me. We're the doctor.
Oh, thank you.

Speaker 4 Here's how it works. We're gonna ask you about a fictional doctor.
You have to say if you'd fuck them. It's an objective quiz.
There is a right and there is a wrong. First up,

Speaker 4 cartoon Dr. Egon Spangler, the cartooned version of the Ghostbusters character.

Speaker 4 He has a PhD in a number of fields, including parapsychology and nuclear engineering, as well as the most magnificent head of hair we've ever seen. There he is.
He's there on the screen.

Speaker 4 In the cartoon, he was blonde.

Speaker 12 I did fuck him.

Speaker 4 Yeah, that's right. That's correct.

Speaker 12 Not what I, I did.

Speaker 4 Oh, you and Spangler. I can see that.
I can see that. You make sense to me.

Speaker 4 Dr. Leo Spacheman from 30 Rock is played by Chris Purnell.

Speaker 12 Only if he wears that coat while we do it.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it's a no. It's too much chaos.

Speaker 16 Like, you can't have that drama.

Speaker 4 You can't have that drama around you. Next up, Dr.
Gregory House from the Procedural House.

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 4 It's a no. It's a no.

Speaker 23 I love you, Lori, but...

Speaker 4 That's incorrect.

Speaker 4 I'm sorry, but that's wrong. Fair, bro.

Speaker 12 Fair.

Speaker 4 And finally, the late, great Hannibal Lecter.

Speaker 25 Yeah, baby.

Speaker 22 Wow, all right.

Speaker 4 All right, taking your life in your hands, but I get it. I get it.
And that's correct.

Speaker 4 Thank you, Zachary Quinto.

Speaker 16 That was great.

Speaker 16 That was great to be able to do it.

Speaker 4 Thank you, David. We're back for the ramp.
When we come back, Jane Fonda.

Speaker 19 And we're back.

Speaker 4 My next guest is an activist, Oscar winner, Hollywood legend, a Broadway star, and probably better at hosting a podcast than me.

Speaker 22 Oh, fuck.

Speaker 4 Please give a warm bourbon room welcome to the one and only Jane Fonda.

Speaker 4 Hi.

Speaker 4 Thank you for being here. I appreciate it.

Speaker 14 Hi, Jane.

Speaker 4 So nice to see you.

Speaker 5 Nice to see you, too.

Speaker 4 What's the matter? No, I'm just.

Speaker 4 I've lost already. It's over

Speaker 5 Listen

Speaker 5 Who is seeing this show is this it

Speaker 4 I Mean you mean live live this is it, okay, but then a bunch of people will see it on YouTube and a bunch of people will listen to it as a podcast really yeah

Speaker 4 surprisingly

Speaker 4 Now, you've been a climate activist for a long time.

Speaker 4 There's a lot of doom around climate. There's a lot of sense of

Speaker 4 this problem is too vast, it's too big, but I don't think that's why you went and got yourself arrested. So where do you find?

Speaker 17 Well,

Speaker 4 you didn't get arrested because you thought there's no hope.

Speaker 5 No, I'm very hopeful, actually.

Speaker 5 Hope is very different than optimism. Optimism is saying everything's going to be fine, and then you don't do anything to make it so.
Hope is it is the muscle.

Speaker 5 I can get really depressed, but I'm giving it 100% and so I don't, I don't get, I don't, I feel hopeful and all my friends do and I find joy in organizing and making things happen.

Speaker 5 So no, I'm not depressed.

Speaker 5 A lot of trees got cut down for all this stuff.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I'm sorry about that.

Speaker 4 I'm sorry about that. You're right.
That's a good point.

Speaker 5 I came on here. I thought you were a different John Lovett.

Speaker 5 I didn't.

Speaker 5 And

Speaker 5 I'm very pleasantly surprised.

Speaker 5 But I don't know why I'm here.

Speaker 5 I really don't. I ask my publicists, why am I here?

Speaker 18 I mean.

Speaker 4 Well, and your confusion

Speaker 4 is totally understandable.

Speaker 4 And again, like, you wouldn't know based on this or this,

Speaker 4 that people listen.

Speaker 4 Isn't that surprising? By my whole personality that people tune into this?

Speaker 5 You're very funny.

Speaker 18 Oh.

Speaker 16 And

Speaker 5 Jamail is so funny. Yes.

Speaker 4 Did you see Candace dancing?

Speaker 5 Yeah, that's why I came.

Speaker 4 Yeah, she puts butts in seats.

Speaker 18 Yeah.

Speaker 5 No, I'm actually feeling good because

Speaker 5 at my age, I really I could understand your humor a little bit.

Speaker 5 I mean, I understand why people laughed.

Speaker 33 I was worried.

Speaker 5 Because, you know,

Speaker 5 I can you can kind of be out of it.

Speaker 9 You were worried that you were out of it?

Speaker 5 Yeah, I was worried that I wouldn't think you're you're funny and then I wouldn't really know why I was here, but you are funny.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 5 No,

Speaker 5 yeah, she made me wish I was young.

Speaker 5 But even when I was young, I couldn't have done any of that.

Speaker 18 Well,

Speaker 4 now, you've been an activist and for such a long time. Now, speaking of, when you, can we show the image of the 1970

Speaker 4 monk shot? Because I feel like you should teach a course on how to look cool in a monk shot.

Speaker 4 I mean, that

Speaker 5 you guys must be really short on money.

Speaker 5 I don't think too many people must listen to this show. You have no money.
You show a small TV show.

Speaker 4 No.

Speaker 4 No. Now, you may be saying, why not put it on the big screen behind you?

Speaker 5 Shows usually have a big screen.

Speaker 18 It ain't the view. Let's begin.
Jane,

Speaker 4 I want you to know that people

Speaker 4 sweat and blood and tears

Speaker 4 went into trying to get that image on this screen. And it didn't work.
But even with AI and all the technological wonders, even with billionaires soaring above our heads as we speak, no.

Speaker 17 Not tonight. Couldn't work.

Speaker 22 And maybe that's a good idea.

Speaker 5 Well, it is a good mug shot.

Speaker 22 It is a good mug shot.

Speaker 18 I'm not lucky.

Speaker 5 The lighting was really good.

Speaker 16 It's cool.

Speaker 5 I have several, and they don't all look that good.

Speaker 4 So speaking of which, you told the Washington Post that one of your jailers said there must be a better way to draw attention to your cause.

Speaker 24 But is there?

Speaker 4 It feels like it works. You getting arrested.
It's a big deal when Jane Fonda gets arrested. Everyone's like, holy shit, they arrested Jane Fonda again.

Speaker 5 Yeah, that's why I do it.

Speaker 5 I turned...

Speaker 5 No, it's true. I mean, it's called nonviolent civil disobedience, and it has changed history throughout history.

Speaker 5 That said,

Speaker 5 you know, I'm white, I'm famous, they don't treat me like they do black people and brown people.

Speaker 5 And I recognize that. I don't want to make it look like it's some brave thing to be arrested.
It's not.

Speaker 5 You usually you get put in a holding pen with a lot of people that you wanted to talk to anyway.

Speaker 5 And I could do wall squats.

Speaker 13 Oh,

Speaker 5 you probably don't know what that is.

Speaker 4 I know what a wall squat is, Jane. I do know what a wall squat is.
Jane, I've been doing Pilates.

Speaker 32 Really?

Speaker 32 But I.

Speaker 5 I have no idea what's going on.

Speaker 5 But I turned 82 in jail, and I knew that would get a lot of

Speaker 5 like five or six years ago, and I knew it would get a lot of attention.

Speaker 22 And it did.

Speaker 5 And so a lot of other old women around the country said, well, if she can do it, and people came from all over the country. It was so great and got arrested for the first time.

Speaker 5 And it was fun, you see?

Speaker 5 We had a good time.

Speaker 4 Well, the other thing, too, is I think that that kind of activism,

Speaker 4 it is amazing to see not just

Speaker 4 the influence it has, but how much the politics of climate have changed since you started doing climate activism. Like the Inflation Reduction Act is the biggest global investment.

Speaker 4 the biggest investment in climate change, in green energy, clean energy in global history.

Speaker 33 And it ain't enough.

Speaker 4 And it's not enough, but it is amazing to think that Joe Biden, I think someone who represents the kind of center of the Democratic Party,

Speaker 4 if anything, just a little bit to the right of it, managed to become a president based on activism, based on the policy discussion, based on the politics to become a climate president.

Speaker 5 You know why?

Speaker 25 Why?

Speaker 5 Because we pressured him.

Speaker 5 This is really important. We got to get Kamala and Tim elected.
Don't criticize them.

Speaker 5 We just

Speaker 26 zip it,

Speaker 5 get them elected, and then organize. Then we have to pressure like hell because we don't have a lot of time.

Speaker 5 The wheel, we're running out of time.

Speaker 5 But we still have time.

Speaker 5 It's very hard to elect somebody to high office who really knows.

Speaker 5 I mean, who understands what has to happen? And it ain't easy because what has to happen means changing the very bedrock of our economy, fossil fuels.

Speaker 5 They run the country, they run the globe.

Speaker 5 There's a reason why Trump invited all the heads of the

Speaker 5 fossil fuel companies down to Mar-a-Lago and said, if you give me a billion dollars, I'll do away with all the regulations.

Speaker 5 And

Speaker 5 that's where the power is. So changing that is very hard, but we have to do that because it's killing us.
I get, I'm so angry, I can almost not breathe because

Speaker 5 we are paying these fuckers to kill us. We pay them 20,

Speaker 5 20 billion dollars a year of our tax money goes to the

Speaker 4 beer

Speaker 24 Belgian white.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it's beer.

Speaker 16 You're drinking. A little.

Speaker 4 Just a little take, just to take the edge off.

Speaker 4 That's so cool.

Speaker 15 Being fond of

Speaker 5 not only are we paying them to kill us, we're doing the same thing with the nuclear industry.

Speaker 5 And believe me, these guys, the energy elite, they're trying to get us to buy the fact, what they say, nuclear energy is going to solve the climate crisis. It's a total lie.

Speaker 5 The only thing about nuclear energy is that a few people get really rich.

Speaker 5 Really rich. And we pay for it.
And if there's an accident, we pay for it. And they're trying to pull the wool over our eyes again.
Nuclear and fossil fuel is going to kill us, and we're paying them.

Speaker 5 I mean, we've got to end it.

Speaker 33 We've got to stop it.

Speaker 5 And that's why we have to elect Kamala

Speaker 35 and him.

Speaker 5 But it's also really cool to, you know, there's going to be some kid that says, I had him in history.

Speaker 16 I think it's so great.

Speaker 18 That is cool.

Speaker 4 So there are, like, I think,

Speaker 4 I think that, like, there are a lot of people. I think most.

Speaker 5 Do you have a beer?

Speaker 4 Can we fly in a beer for Jane?

Speaker 4 There are a lot of, I think, there's a debate on the left, especially among climate activists, that say, you know, Kamala Harris during that debate is saying that I'm not against fracking.

Speaker 4 The Biden administration, even as they pursue the Inflation Reduction Act, for political reasons, for practical, economic reasons, is saying,

Speaker 4 Kamal with a beer.

Speaker 5 God, Azy, cuter up close.

Speaker 16 We'd be well, but if we're happy. Of course.

Speaker 5 I'm Martin Brightis.

Speaker 4 There's your beer, Jane Ponda.

Speaker 17 Now,

Speaker 4 but there are climate activists who say,

Speaker 4 I don't want to vote for somebody that doesn't recognize that we have to be against all this fossil fuels, right? They don't want to compromise.

Speaker 4 And your view, what you just said, is we have 60 days, we got to just do everything we can, and then we can pressure them. How do you persuade people

Speaker 4 that feel the same way you do that they need to vote for Kamal even if they have objections?

Speaker 5 Well, it's hard. I've got grandkids I'm trying to persuade.
You know, they're very, very angry about Gaza. And I'm trying to explain that if you sit it out or vote for a third party,

Speaker 5 we're going to get fascism.

Speaker 5 You're not going to have any voice at all.

Speaker 5 One ticket with whatever problems they have, they will give you a voice. You can organize and pressure.

Speaker 5 We pressured millions of people from all over the world, pressured public opinion and Biden and made him do

Speaker 5 some of the things that he promised he would do.

Speaker 5 They can be pressured, and we can't vote for a party that won't allow us to have a voice and to pressure.

Speaker 4 Belgian white. Now before.

Speaker 5 Belgian white.

Speaker 5 I don't know. Is there a camera that is photographing anything here?

Speaker 4 Yes, there's actually several. It's a real production.
It's a real.

Speaker 4 They're professionals. You can't see them.
They're dark because of the lighting. There's professionals in virtually every direction.

Speaker 5 I came in here and walked a half a mile straight upstairs.

Speaker 4 Tonight, you're about to match wits with Crooked's resident film expert and Dweeb. An Emmy nominee this weekend for his writing on the 2024 Academy Awards.
Please welcome Keep It's Own Louis Vertel.

Speaker 4 There he is.

Speaker 4 Lewis.

Speaker 4 Come on. Good to see you, buddy.

Speaker 24 Lewis.

Speaker 15 We were on Millionaire together.

Speaker 3 Yeah, we were. Yes.

Speaker 5 I can never beat him.

Speaker 33 She should be afraid.

Speaker 22 That's the way it works. Yeah.

Speaker 5 No, he knows everything.

Speaker 4 I know. I know he's a savant.

Speaker 15 When we were on Who Wants to be a Millionaire Together, this is how crazy it is to know this person.

Speaker 4 We kept getting questions on accident that dovetailed with her life.

Speaker 15 We got a question about a hundred-year-old tortoise she had met before.

Speaker 15 And he was like impotent or something.

Speaker 5 It's real. No, I watched him be masturbated.

Speaker 3 I did it.

Speaker 4 That's no way to speak about Rupert Murdoch.

Speaker 5 Who is Lonesome George was his name?

Speaker 24 Lonesome George. Very famous.

Speaker 35 Lonesome George.

Speaker 5 They brought a Swedish horse, a Swedish woman vet over to the Galapagos.

Speaker 5 They wanted to try to breed him so that the, you know, and it didn't work. Didn't work.
No.

Speaker 15 I just want to say as a trivia person, aren't you all fucking in awe of her amazing memory?

Speaker 23 Jesus Christ.

Speaker 16 You know everything.

Speaker 5 No, you know.

Speaker 35 That's true, I do too.

Speaker 5 Yes, you're going to win this. Let's go.

Speaker 4 So here's how it works. Now, Lewis is a low-key madman.
So we thought we would up the difficulty and pit him against Jane Fonda in a segment we're calling Into the Fondiverse.

Speaker 4 I will ask both of you questions about Jane Fonda.

Speaker 4 And we will see who knows Jane Fonda better.

Speaker 5 I'm confused where we are. There's one wall that says bourbon.
One wall says Roxy. Up there it says Chateau Marmont.

Speaker 18 Where are we?

Speaker 15 Mostly the bourbon room.

Speaker 9 Mostly the bourbon room.

Speaker 18 The bourbon room.

Speaker 33 I'm sorry. Go on.

Speaker 4 Jane, you've always been here.

Speaker 4 First question. In the 2018 Comedy Book Club, Jane Fonda and her three extremely horny friends navigate postmenopausal pleasure while reading which three erotic novels?

Speaker 10 Is this for me or her?

Speaker 4 either one of you can guess it. First to know the answer gets it.

Speaker 33 Oh, the Ferranti novels.

Speaker 4 The what novels?

Speaker 15 The Eleanor Ferranti novels. Right.
It's 50 Shades of Grey.

Speaker 4 Oh, yes, I don't know the novel.

Speaker 22 Oh, no. Wait, that's the other one.

Speaker 15 Yes, never mind. She's in the lead.

Speaker 4 It's 50 Shades of Gray, 50 Shades Darker, and 50 Shades Free.

Speaker 4 I think the point goes to Jane because she's Jane.

Speaker 15 The Ferrante is the next movie, right?

Speaker 23 The second book. The second book.
I got it.

Speaker 4 Jane Fonda took home the Academy Award for Best Actress for her turn as Brie in the 1971 neon noir Clute.

Speaker 4 Unbelievably, she was initially concerned she wasn't right for the role, and at one point asked director Alan Pakula to release her from her contract and give the part to whom?

Speaker 5 Faye Dunaway. Yes.

Speaker 4 Jane, that's correct. Yes.

Speaker 15 Love Faye, but thank God Jane got that one.

Speaker 22 Thank God.

Speaker 18 Yes. Yeah, right.
Yeah.

Speaker 16 Nothing. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Jane Fonda famously appeared alongside Lily Tomlin in Netflix's Grace and Frankie, but the pair also appeared alongside one another in three other feature films. Name all three.

Speaker 5 Okay, 9 to 5,

Speaker 5 Book Club 1, Book Club 2, and

Speaker 5 Moving On. Moving On,

Speaker 15 from a couple years ago, yeah.

Speaker 5 Yeah, that was a good one. Nobody saw it, but it was good.

Speaker 10 Yeah, right.

Speaker 4 You're missing one.

Speaker 4 You're missing one.

Speaker 5 And if not, 9 to 5, 80 for Brady. 80 for Brady.
I didn't say 80 for Brady. No, I didn't.
Oh, she wasn't even in Book Club.

Speaker 10 No, right.

Speaker 15 It's 80 for Brady and then that, and then 9 to 5.

Speaker 4 I got to tell you something, Jane.

Speaker 5 In my mind, she's in all my movies.

Speaker 4 I want you to know something.

Speaker 5 She's my favorite leading man.

Speaker 18 Everybody always asks me.

Speaker 4 I didn't think she was in Book Club, but I wasn't going to tell you you were wrong. That's another advantage you have in this game.
I know.

Speaker 5 And I tend to use it to its maximum. Where's my beer?

Speaker 16 Before we move on.

Speaker 15 Before we move on, have you guys seen Lily Tomlin in the movie Nashville recently? Yes. One of the best performances you will ever see in a movie.
You must go see that.

Speaker 25 Yes.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 5 She copied my clute hair.

Speaker 26 No shit.

Speaker 24 Yes. Yes.
Yeah.

Speaker 22 What?

Speaker 25 What?

Speaker 4 Next question. What is the film Jane Fonda most regrets turning down?

Speaker 15 Ooh, oh, I know, I think. Bonnie and Clyde.
Incorrect. She has said Bonnie and Clyde before.

Speaker 18 I can find the interview right now.

Speaker 5 God, what was it? It was Julie Christie and Marcia Reef.

Speaker 33 What was that movie? Oh, Dr.

Speaker 18 Chicago.

Speaker 13 Yeah.

Speaker 4 That's correct, Jane.

Speaker 16 Okay, yeah.

Speaker 4 At least that's what you told Ellen.

Speaker 4 Jane Fonda received the title role in the 1965 Comedy Western Kat Ballou, considered by many to be her breakout star turn.

Speaker 4 After the first choice actress passed, later it was revealed that the actress's manager had declined the role without consulting her, and if she had known, she would have taken it.

Speaker 4 Who is that actress?

Speaker 4 Who is the actress

Speaker 5 that was originally offered Cat Beloo? Yeah.

Speaker 9 Oh, that's a good.

Speaker 10 I know that

Speaker 15 her first three Oscar nominations, Barbara Streisand turned it down all three times, which is so cool.

Speaker 5 According to Barbara.

Speaker 10 I believe you.

Speaker 5 According to Barbara, I would have no career if it weren't for her.

Speaker 5 She turned down Barbarella.

Speaker 5 She turned down Clute.

Speaker 33 They shoot horses, don't they?

Speaker 18 What? They shoot horses, don't they?

Speaker 5 They shoot horses, don't they?

Speaker 5 Julia. And Julia, I mean, can you see her?

Speaker 9 No, I know.

Speaker 14 It's all around.

Speaker 15 So that's not the answer for that question. I'm going to go with 1965.

Speaker 4 Mmm, Cat Balou.

Speaker 15 I assume she was already popular at the time.

Speaker 5 Elizabeth Ashley?

Speaker 4 Great guess. Correct answer is Anne Margaret.

Speaker 16 Ann Margaret.

Speaker 15 There was a phase when you and Anne Margaret had the exact same hair. I'm not kidding, it was confusing.

Speaker 24 Thank you.

Speaker 5 She would have been good in Capaloo.

Speaker 14 Yeah, absolutely, yes.

Speaker 5 I'm glad she turned it down.

Speaker 15 Oh, wait, quickly, story. Can I tell you one really quickly? Yeah.
One time this guy came over to hook up.

Speaker 10 Like it was like a grinder hookup.

Speaker 15 And at the time, I have this awesome poster of Jane Fonda in my house. And the guy was not super verbal, like he was drunk or something.

Speaker 15 And he comes in, says nothing, sees the poster of Jane and goes,

Speaker 15 Kapaloo. And that was the beginning of a friendship.
And he's a big movie person.

Speaker 23 Anyway, we had sex.

Speaker 18 Thank you. Thank you.

Speaker 4 Final question.

Speaker 4 Which of the following is not a real quote from one Jane Fonda? Okay.

Speaker 4 A, what does Jane Fonda eat for breakfast? My boyfriend, well-toasted, buttered on both sides.

Speaker 9 B, I ate a beetle.

Speaker 4 C, my 82-year-old bones hurt. Or D, you can grease them up or down.

Speaker 15 I believe she said the first one about eating the boyfriend for correct.

Speaker 9 No. You didn't say that?

Speaker 4 No, you did.

Speaker 15 That's what I mean. I absolutely can hear it in your voice.

Speaker 4 You said what.

Speaker 5 I would never.

Speaker 4 Apparently you did.

Speaker 5 I'm not a morning person.

Speaker 4 And you did say my 82-year-old bones hurt after you spoke to the Washington Post about being released from jail. You said my bones hurt.
hurt. Yeah, they probably did.

Speaker 32 I remember.

Speaker 10 They probably did.

Speaker 5 Me and the cockroaches.

Speaker 3 We had a good night.

Speaker 4 And you did say you ate the beetle.

Speaker 15 You ate a beetle. So what?

Speaker 5 I was when I was a teenager.

Speaker 18 Oh, which is the age to do it.

Speaker 4 It was at night. It was at night.

Speaker 5 So there. That changes everything.

Speaker 4 Yes, the quote you can grease them up or down is actually a quote from me about Philadelphia's light poles after the debate.

Speaker 4 Lewis, I'm sorry to tell you this, but you've been absolutely obliterated.

Speaker 24 You

Speaker 25 wiped the floor with Lewis.

Speaker 14 You just.

Speaker 5 No, I've got to remain friends with him. He saves me and he makes money for me.
Sometimes. When we go on to guest, you know, talk, you know, those, what do they call game shows?

Speaker 15 We made $125,000 for Fire Drill Fridays.

Speaker 22 Yes.

Speaker 16 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 4 And Fire Drill Fridays is the organization?

Speaker 5 That's one of them, yeah. I have the Jane Fonda Climate Pack and Fire Drill Fridays, which is part of Greenpeace.

Speaker 4 What should people do to support you?

Speaker 5 Well, Jane Pack, P-A-C, JanePack.com.

Speaker 5 We have over 100 climate champion candidates all over the country, but we focus down ballot because that's where the real climate work is happening.

Speaker 5 City councils, mayors, state legislators.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 4 And what do you think about Lewis bonding with a would-be paramour about a poster of you?

Speaker 18 Because of it.

Speaker 5 Listen, in your life, if you can get one person screwed,

Speaker 24 it's worth it. You've done something good.

Speaker 33 Also,

Speaker 15 I just want to give advice to everybody else. If you meet somebody who is into movies, please, God, keep them, because we need to keep the movies alive.

Speaker 15 I need people to be interested in movies and articulate about movies because that gets people caring about real things. So, hopefully, that sex turned into something real is what I'm saying.

Speaker 10 Thank you.

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Thank you. Why am I saying it with this tone?

Speaker 4 This has not been authorized by any candidate or candidates committee. All right.
Please welcome back to the stage Zachary Quinto and Kumaylangiani.

Speaker 5 This is such a great outfit you've got on, and I love the nose socks.

Speaker 22 That's really cool.

Speaker 5 I feel so square with my rib socks.

Speaker 33 He looks like he's in clute, like it's a 1971 strolling the streets of New York.

Speaker 17 That's a high compliment.

Speaker 5 Well, he looks like a porn star.

Speaker 16 That's for sure.

Speaker 5 I'll take it. The teeth, the mustache, yeah.

Speaker 19 I'll take it.

Speaker 22 For sure.

Speaker 4 Everyone addressed your comments to me.

Speaker 9 Yes, hi, John.

Speaker 16 Hi, John.

Speaker 22 Now it's time for the rant wheel.

Speaker 4 Here's how it works. We spin the wheel, we land wherever it lands, but we can't see the wheel, so it's all going to work out.

Speaker 4 Let's spin the wheel.

Speaker 4 Am I going to rant? You're going to have to rant. You're going to have to rant.

Speaker 5 What does that mean?

Speaker 4 You're going to pick a topic off the top of your mind and you can talk about it. Do you want to go first or third or fifth or what? Third.

Speaker 35 Third.

Speaker 4 First up, it's Lewis.

Speaker 18 Okay.

Speaker 15 Mine is going to be brief because her rant is going to be more important and then we'll actually learn something.

Speaker 10 My rant is about...

Speaker 4 Are you under...

Speaker 15 Did you watch the VMAs recently?

Speaker 15 There was a VMA for most iconic performance of all time that people got to vote for? Okay, so already there's a contradiction.

Speaker 15 Either it's the most iconic performance of all time or it's not and it's not about democracy. I know we're supportive of that sort of thing here.
Not in this case.

Speaker 15 And what got voted the most iconic performance at the VMAs of all time was Katy Perry performing Roar.

Speaker 15 I just want to say this about the girl. Let me say this about the girl, fellow millennial.
I support her and think her Vegas show is unbelievable and underrated. It's like the Kids' Choice Awards plus

Speaker 15 being on Molly with your gay friends. And

Speaker 15 like a really inappropriate show, and you're always in the audience next to like a Mormon family. It's really creepy.

Speaker 15 But I have never even seen that performance from the VMAs before, and there are too many important performances at the VMAs.

Speaker 15 I am mainly talking about Madonna doing Vogue in 1990 being the greatest performance in VMA's history.

Speaker 15 The only problem with the song Vogue is that there's a big list of famous movie stars, and I think she was too intimidated to include Jane Fondo.

Speaker 23 That's it.

Speaker 12 That's good, right, Lewis. Thank you.

Speaker 4 That's such an an important point.

Speaker 4 Let's spin it again.

Speaker 4 Oh my God.

Speaker 4 It has landed on Zachary.

Speaker 12 Oh my gosh. How lucky am I? Okay, I have a rant that's a kind of three-part rant, right? My first part of the rant is

Speaker 12 My least favorite phrase in the world is it is what it is.

Speaker 14 I hate it too. Yes.

Speaker 12 A thought-terminating cliche. When people say it is what it is, I just feel like it is such a resignment of their experience rather than looking beyond what their experience is to what it could be.

Speaker 12 So that's one of my rants. My other rant,

Speaker 12 do not clip your fucking toenails or nails of any kind in public.

Speaker 14 Don't do it.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 31 When I see people clipping their nails in public, I want to gouge out their eyes with a spoon.

Speaker 12 And my third rant is orbit gum my favorite gum the best gum the best gum by taste the worst gum by design who is designing orbit gum packages and why do they still have a job you you go to get a piece of orbit gum out of the fucking gum packet and then all of them come out and the paper comes out and then we were just downstairs in the green room and there was like an orbit what was it I don't know like a

Speaker 12 value pack of orbit that was like a plastic thing that opens and you're like what are people what are they thinking? It's the best-tasting gum that is the hardest gum to get into your mouth.

Speaker 15 It comes in like a bouquet, like you can't pry it.

Speaker 22 It's ridiculous.

Speaker 18 I'm not alone in this, right?

Speaker 18 It's like okay, thanks.

Speaker 10 No, it's a real thing.

Speaker 8 It's like the paper of the gum is always stuck to the bottom of the package.

Speaker 24 You can eat the fucking thing.

Speaker 9 Like, they want you to get in there with your teeth and bite it out of the package.

Speaker 8 Yeah. Well, you lost your orbit sponsorship.

Speaker 14 I'm so glad I got this off my chest.

Speaker 4 That's it for us in orbits.

Speaker 4 Their sales reps are walking out in a huff.

Speaker 4 Back to Cincinnati, they go.

Speaker 8 All six of them are trying to get through the doorway at the same time.

Speaker 4 That wasn't wordplay, that was just clever.

Speaker 9 I was pretty happy with that.

Speaker 17 Let's spin it again.

Speaker 4 It has landed on Kumil.

Speaker 18 Oh, I thought, okay.

Speaker 4 It's not up to me.

Speaker 8 I guess we'll take your word for it.

Speaker 8 I'll also stay in the world of music. You know, I love going to concerts.
I hate the encore. Don't just stay out there, play all the songs in a row.
Don't pretend to leave.

Speaker 16 I have to go get home.

Speaker 8 Like, I know you're coming back out. We all know you're coming back out.

Speaker 8 Stay out here, play all the songs in a row. Like, how fragile is your ego that you have to make us extra clap for you if you'll finish this show that we've already paid for?

Speaker 8 And we all have to play along when they're like, all right, I guess we're leaving without playing our three biggest songs.

Speaker 16 You're like, oh no,

Speaker 8 oh no, the Eagles left without playing Hotel California

Speaker 8 and Desperado

Speaker 8 and Hotel California.

Speaker 8 I don't know the Eagles work.

Speaker 8 I saw this. I thought of this because I saw a guitarist recently.

Speaker 8 When the band left, when they pretended to leave, the guitarist left his phone on the stool. It made me so angry.
Like, at least pretend you're leaving for good.

Speaker 8 Make us earn it. You know, I feel like if you're going to do it, just like commit to it.

Speaker 8 Bring up the lights, open the doors, insist that the show is over.

Speaker 8 And then as everyone's leaving, come back out and then play three more songs. Make everyone cancel their Ubers.

Speaker 4 Rant over.

Speaker 4 Yeah, commit to the bit.

Speaker 4 That's a beautiful idea. Let's spin it again.

Speaker 8 It's gonna land on you.

Speaker 5 No, I'm so mellow with my beer.

Speaker 5 I'm too nice to rant.

Speaker 4 It's landed on Jane Fonda.

Speaker 5 I'm going to pass it back to you.

Speaker 9 No, no, no, no.

Speaker 8 Don't you do one?

Speaker 4 Well, we can spin it again.

Speaker 22 Yeah, let's spin it again.

Speaker 10 Let's spin it again.

Speaker 12 Has any guest ever refused the rant?

Speaker 4 Well, we've never...

Speaker 4 The only person who could...

Speaker 4 It's landed on me.

Speaker 4 No one's ever refused a rant with the power and charisma of Jane Fonda.

Speaker 22 Right, see?

Speaker 4 I've never been laid so thoroughly low,

Speaker 4 but I, but in a way that felt good.

Speaker 8 Can I say it's so inspiring watching you, Jane? It was really, really wonderful.

Speaker 8 You're so, obviously, you've been passionate your entire life, and you've really like put your money where your mouth is. You know, like you stood up for what you what you believe in,

Speaker 8 and you've, you've, um, it's at some point you haven't given a shit about your career, and it's been like you fought for what you believe in, you're still doing it, ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 4 Jane Fonda, Jackery Quinto, Louis Ratel, Jumail Mangiani. When we come back, we'll end on a high note.

Speaker 4 And we're back. Here it is, the high note.

Speaker 36 Hey, love it. This is Seth calling from Milwaukee.
My high note was that I got to marry my best friend in the entire world, Jared, this past Saturday.

Speaker 36 We got to sign our gorgeous ketubah together, stand under a chuppah that he had spent all morning decorating with flowers, and get get celebrated with all of our friends by getting lifted up during the hora which we found a remix a EDM remix of the Havana Gila and it was a hit so Jared I'm so excited about spending the rest of my life together with you and it feels so great to finally be able to to finally be able to call you my husband

Speaker 20 Hi, Love It. This is Allie from Louisiana.
And my high note this week is that for the very first time I went canvassing for Kamala.

Speaker 20 Last Saturday, I went canvassing in my precinct. I'm our precinct organizing captain, and we knocked on about 30 doors and got to talk to some really cool people that were really excited.

Speaker 20 And it was just so refreshing and energizing to meet other Democrats in Louisiana. We are small, but we're mighty.
And fun fact, there's more registered Democrats in Louisiana than Republicans.

Speaker 20 We are just working on that mobilization. So that's my high note.

Speaker 32 Have a great week.

Speaker 4 Thank you all for coming. Have a great night.

Speaker 4 Love it or Leave It is a crooked media production. It is written and produced by me, John Lovett, and Lee Eisenberg.
Kendra James is our executive producer. Chris Lord is our producer.

Speaker 4 And Kennedy Hill is our associate producer. Hallie Kiefer is our head writer.
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