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It is wonderful to see you all. Look, I don't know what the future holds.
You don't know what the future holds. Our desperation weeks ago could have been unwarranted.
Our hope today could be futile and ultimately dashed.

Nevertheless, I prefer the news this way.

Shout out to two groups of people having a bad week.

The Trump campaign and Olympic triathletes forced to traverse the River Seine.

One group spent the week gargling human shit.

The other, Olympian triathletes.

Tonight, Wayne Brady and Miley Masako

Brady serve it to us family style.

I said that weird, but it's fine. We're leaving it and serve it to us.

I don't know where... I know.

It was weird. It's not even...

The meaning is the same, but it came out weird.

Janita Gavankar

ranks some villains, and Ron

Perlman gets weird, but in a non-threatening

to democracy sort of way.

Then at the end, we're all golden girls.

But first, let's get into it.

What a week.

Vice President Kamala Harris held a rally in Atlanta, Georgia on Tuesday, the biggest

rally of her presidential campaign so far.

And the vibe at this packed arena?

Impeccable.

Back to the state, Kamala! Here we go! We fought! We fought! pain so far. And the vibe at this packed arena? Impeccable.
Look at that unified, excited group

of people all believing in the same team. Is this what sports is? Is this what family is?

Rapper Quavo spoke about gun violence prevention at the rally and gave Harris his endorsement.

You can't understand the struggles of gun violence if you're not in the field or in the heart of it.

So one thing I learned about working with Vice President Harris is she always stand on business.

And if you listen closely, you can hear every white person Googling standing on business.

Megan Thee Stallion performed before Harris took the stage saying this.

Yeah, sure. Absolutely.
But it's also important to note one thing women in my life have taught me.

It's that you can want to demand bodily autonomy while hating your body with the fire of a thousand suns.

I agree that's a problem to solve for sure.

But we need to make sure we have a broad coalition of women who seem to love their body and women who hate their bodies.

You can't win without the women who hate their bodies.

The vice president took the stage to a deafening welcome that is what you all could sound like when i walk out here this is what don't you dare don't you dare oh wow thank you thank you thank you incredible stop it stop it you're too much when harris spoke about project 2025 and said her new campaign tagline the crowd chanted it back with her we're not going back we're not going back we're not going back hyped up crowd at at a Kamala Harris rally or me driving away from my house without my sunglasses

for the millionth fucking time.

That's the worst three minutes.

Going back with the sunglasses.

Harris addressed Trump directly with a challenge to debate her.

Well, Donald.

I do hope you'll reconsider to meet me on the debate stage.

Because as the saying goes, if you've got something to say, say it to my face.

Oh, yeah. If you have something to say to me, put it in an email.
And delete the email. Go about your day.
The vice president will reportedly choose her running mate by Tuesday when she and her chosen white guy will hold their first rally in Philadelphia. And I couldn't help but wonder, was Kamala really looking for her Mr.
White? Or just her Mr. White now? Meanwhile, in Lower Manhattan, Samantha was gathering some polling data of her own.
A Harris campaign aide warned against reading too much into that first rally location. So there goes my dream of Vice President Will Smith eating a hoagie while climbing a greased up street lamp.

The tea leaves accumulated on Wednesday with the Harris campaign urging Wall Street donors to get their cashing quick,

citing a financial rule that prohibits contributions to tickets that include a sitting governor.

Said Arizona Senator Mark Kelly upon learning that he might be cut from the running, the good news is I have perspective and know that we are all just globs of tissue and blood

and tiny sacks floating in the infinite blackness of space.

Listen, I've said it once, I'll say it again.

You can't trust astronauts.

They change up there.

On Thursday, Governor Shapiro

canceled his weekend fundraisers in the Hamptons,

adding fuel to the rumor that he could be gearing up

for a vice presidential announcement if he books an appointment with his bik bikini waxer, we'll know he's got it. Walls and Bashir also signaled that their weekends were now open, which is crazy because they both told me they had plans.
And it's like, okay, escape room for one. Sure.
Maybe it'll be fun not to have to share the puzzles. As the internet familiarizes itself with Trump's VP pick, Jeffrey Dahmer Vance, disturbing quotes, disturbing quotes from his recent past continue to serve as a top contender.
This week is from a 2021 talk Vance gave at a Christian high school about the sexual revolution and divorce. And this is one of the great tricks that I think the sexual revolution pulled on the American populace, which is this idea that like, well, okay, these marriages were fundamentally, you know, they were maybe even violent, but certainly they were unhappy.
And so getting rid of them and making it easier for people to shift spouses like they changed their underwear, that's going to make people happier in the long term. And maybe it worked out for the moms and dads, though I'm skeptical, but it really didn't work out for the kids of those marriages.
Yeah, he's got a point. Two Christmases is all fun and games till mom moves to Scottsdale with Ronald.
Now I got to go to Scottsdale. I do want to make a serious point about this because he's not just wrong, like on our lefty coastal cosmopolitan terms, like he's wrong on his own terms.
It's not permissive liberal values or campus Marxism that has led to rising divorce. Here's how we know this.
Divorce rates are lower amongst college educated people. Divorce rates are higher in red states than blue states.
They believe our society has gotten too fruity, but those fruits end up staying together for 40 years while establishing a set design business. It's a real story.
It's a real story. Two gays on Supermarket Sweep were business partners on the show.
They've been together for 40 fucking years. If you believe a society where couples stay together is better than one where couples divorce, don't make divorce harder.
Make fewer men punch women in the face. and then stop blaming Nancy Pelosi.

She's been married since 1963.

She celebrated her 20th wedding anniversary before J.D. Vance was fucking born in that manger.

I believe.

I don't know where he was.

I haven't read the book.

I don't.

I think he was in a manger. I don't remember.
I don't know. I don't.
I simply don't know what Hillbilly Elegy is about. Simply don't know.
Meanwhile, at a rally in Henderson, Nevada on Tuesday, Jar Jar Dinks Vance took a moment to confront his mortality. I'm 40 years old.
Almost. I'm sad about that, by the way.
I turned 40, I think, on Friday. Thank you all.
It's unacceptable for the vice president to be younger than me. That's obviously unacceptable.
The only thing that makes me feel better is the way he's doing 40 and the way I did 40. I like also he's

like, oh, I've barely even thought about my birthday. I told my wife no surprise parties, but I said it in the tone.
That means if I don't walk into a surprise party on Friday night, you're reading and driving privileges are revoked. So she's maybe planning something.
Anyway, hasn't thought about it. And he's like, you know, I love my wife.
She's not white, by the way. Not sure why I keep saying that.

Vance also offered us this gift.

Now, I would call her up here to come and speak.

But then I think I'd have to sleep on the couch tonight.

I'd have to sleep on couch, my other wife. I mean, not my wife.

I mean, my friend, couch, the couch.

We call it the couch, not couch. Not like a person.
I'm not sleeping with couch. I'm sleeping on the couch.
Normal, normal. Normal, normal, normal.
Sleep on the couch. Not with couch.
Normal, normal. On Wednesday, Republican Senator Lisa Murkowski slammed Vance over his recent childless cat lady comments, telling Politico, if the Republican Party is trying to improve its image with women, I don't think that this is working.
I don't know what she's talking about. Women love a man with a jawline of a beefsteak tomato who wants to go back to, you can't divorce me until you prove I'm evil to a judge I golf with.
Not to be outshined, Trump gave a

disastrous and combative interview at the National Association of Black Journalists annual convention in Chicago on Wednesday. And before you ask, yes, it's the Trump you're thinking of.
And all of it could have been avoided if somebody warned Trump that the BJ in NABJ stands for black journalists instead of what he was thinking.

Here's how it started.

Why should black voters trust you after you have used language like that? Well, first of all, I don't think I've ever been asked a question so in such a horrible manner. First question, you don't even say hello.
How are you? Trump then asked to see her manager holding a tiny, tiny hope that it might be a white person. Trump continued.
I have been the best president for the black population since Abraham Lincoln. Better than President Johnson, who signed the Voting Rights Act.
For you to start off a question and answer period, especially when you're 35 minutes late, because you couldn't get your equipment to work in such a hostile manner, I think it's a disgrace. While Trump blamed the delay on the association and its equipment, the real cause was Trump reportedly backstage demanding that journalists do not do live fact-checking, which I actually think is fair.
I also spent a lot of time backstage before taping, reminding the team to not fact-check me when I say things like, I've been hitting the gym, or I actually knew about Chapel Roan last year. When asked if he would rein in his supporters who call Kamala Harris a DEI hire, Trump demanded interviewer Rachel Scott to find the term.
How do you define DEI? Go ahead. How do you define diversity,

equity, inclusion? OK, yeah, go ahead. Is that what your definition? That is that that is.

Give me a definition. Would you give me a definition? Give me a definition.

Sir, I'm asking you a question. You have to define it.
Define the define it for me.

I just defined it, sir. They they did eventually establish who was on first, but

they never cycle back to it again.

Trump then said this about Vice President Harris's race. I didn't know she was black until a number of years ago when she happened to turn black.
And now she wants to be known as black. So I don't know.
Is she Indian or is she black? Please, Trump pleaded tears in his eyes. I need to know which slurs to use.
Trump was also asked about Jiminy Dickett Vance's childless cat lady's comments. Did you know that he had these views about people who do not have children before you picked him to be your running mate? And do you agree with him? No, I know this.
He is very family oriented and he thinks family is a great thing. I know people with families.
I know people with great families. I know people with very troubled families.
And I also know people with no families that didn't meet the right person. Things happen.
You go through life, you don't meet the right person. Sometimes you meet a guy on Hinge, okay? And he seems good.
He has a face. And you go, that's a good face.
I like that face.

But then you go out for an iced oat latte.

We love iced oat lattes, don't we, folks?

And he's not asking you questions, okay?

Not a single question.

And all of his jokes are Michael Scott quotes.

Lion Micah, I call him.

Trump's allies on Fox tried to spin the event to no avail.

Here's Jesse Waters doing his best to pull up the nose of the plane as it plummets towards the earth.

She's not African American technically because she has a Jamaican dad. I feel like this is the only chance I'll have.
So let me just say, Donald Trump, Jamaican me crazy. But it wasn't just racism on offer this week.
In an interview with Fox's Laura Ingraham on Tuesday, Trump suggested that Kamala Harris wouldn't be taken seriously by world leaders, while for some reason. I think they'll walk all over her.
She'll be so easy for them. She'll be like a play toy.
They look at her and they say, we can't believe we got so lucky. They're going to walk all over her.
And I don't want to say as to why, but a lot of people understand it. Somehow the implied misogyny is worse than just coming right in saying it.
Like, you're making me fill in the misogynistic blanks in my own mind. This is non-consensual brain misogyny.
Get out of there. You know? What are you doing? This guy, for the first time in his life, discovers innuendo in this paragraph? It's unbelievable.
And then there was this exchange. What are your pronouns? I have no, I don't want pronouns.
I don't want pronouns. I saw your fluid.
That sucks. That sucks.
You know, imagining Trump coming out as like a two spirit pansexual. It's Like it's not even like technically a paradox.
Like it is, of course, possible, like I guess logically, but it seems harder to picture than like dry water or a square circle. You know what I'm saying? Trump also attempted to turn the weird tables.
You know who's playing weird? She's playing weird. She's a weird person.
You're not weird. I'm weird.
And then today we got this awesome clip from Kamala HQ. Well, they're the weird ones.
And if you've ever seen her with the laugh and everything else, that's a weird deal going on there. They're the weird ones.
Nobody's ever called me weird. I'm a lot of things, but weird I'm not.
And I'm up front. And he's not either.
I will tell you, JD is not at all. They are.
Man, you just know that that that vice president role. And by the way, my vice president isn't weird.
You're weird. You're weird for saying it.
I mean, he's normal. We're normal.
We're normal dudes. Can't shake.
Once you're saying I'm not weird, that's tough. That's tough.
Also, it's hard to trust the weird barometer of Trump, a man who spent so much casual time with Rudy Giuliani in his ink goblin years. Like if Salvador Dali were your roommate and you were trying to convince everybody you knew what a normal clock is.
The Biden administration announced Thursday that it had secured the release of three U.S. citizens from Russia as part of a 24-person prisoner swap involving several countries.
Also, this is too much while the Olympics are happening. My body can't handle this much patriotism this fast.
I'll get the Benz. The deal marked the largest prisoner exchange since the Cold War.
However, to make this deal, the U.S. was forced to give up two first-round draft picks, plus give Russia the coin toss in the kickoff to World War III.
The freed Americans include Wall Street Journal reporter Evan Gerskovich, who was detained in March of 2023 and last month sentenced to 16 years in prison for espionage. Yeah, we got him back.
That's good. Welcome home, Evan.
He doesn't know it yet, but he's already having quite the brat summer. Before Gerskovich was released, Russia had him fill out an official request for presidential clemency.
It included a blank area that the prisoner could choose to fill in what they wanted. In it, Gerskovich wrote a request in Russian for Putin to sit down for an interview with him after he was released.
They're going to have to rename it the Ball Street Journal. Putin is like, sure, yeah, but it has to be at mine.
And Evan's like, not falling for that again. At San Diego Comic-Con over the weekend, Marvel Studios announced that Robert Downey Jr.
will be making a triumphant return in two upcoming Avengers movies in the role of Doctor Doom. Marvel Studios explained the decision came about organically after they decided they wanted to make more money.
Speaking of rolling and fromage, over in Paris, it's fine. The U.S.
women's gymnastics team took home the team gold. This win makes Simone Biles the most decorated American gymnast in history.
Incredible. I think I could do the vault, by the way.
In the men's, I could do the pommel horse. That I know, for sure.
But in the vaults, I think I could do it because in the end, it's just running real fast, getting your arms in a place and going, whoa. It seems like the spring in the fucking horse does a lot of it.
I think it's about staying straight. Plus the twisting and the.
And the landing. Meanwhile, the internet fell in love with the many incredible marksmen and women of the Olympic shooting events like South Korean superstar Kim Yeji.
And it's there! It's there! The world record has gone! Forget about K-pop, this is K-bap-bap-bap.

Just to note,

Hallie asked Lazarus if I could pull this joke off,

and I feel like it did better than we thought.

All right.

So who thinks I did that?

Who thinks I made that joke work?

And who thinks I ate shit?

Okay, okay.

It doesn't need to be... I don't need Putin victory levels.
You know, I just, I don't need 90-10. I'll take a solid majority.
And finally, Keanu Reeves is set to star in Waiting for Godot on Broadway next year. In the new production, Estragon and Vladimir must keep waiting at 50 miles an hour or Godot will explode.
Reeves will appear along with his good friend and Bill & Ted series co-star Alex Winter. So get ready for Bill & Ted's existential adventure.
Up next, Miley Brady brings her dad to work. We'll be right back.
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Please welcome the stage,

Miley Brady and Wayne Brady. Come on out.
Nice to see you both. Thanks for being here.
Hey, everybody. Hi.
How are you feeling? I feel good. I like that hat.
Thank you, sir. Just for you.
Thanks. It's so cool.
I like that it's red on the bottom. So it's like a, it's the outfit's all color coordinated, but then there's this pop of red.
That's it. Just a little bit.
So just to draw a little bit of attention to myself. He's in his fashion era.
Is your dad in his fashion era? He is. He's in his fashion era, as the kids say.
And how is that different from before? That's what I want to know. That question's going to make him so mad.
It is going to make me mad. Because people have been complimenting him for a while saying that he's in his fashion era and he always takes it in a defensive way.
But I realize what it means. The thing is maybe because I'm in a place where I like to experiment more with clothing versus playing things safe and wearing really nice things.
But that's a nice suit. Those are nice shoes instead of like, oh, bitch, that's great.
Yeah, like that's a different thing. It's like, look at you.
Well, I think it did get defensive at the end. What? What are you talking about? Well, I think when you say someone's in their fashion era, it implies that there was another era before.
A fashionless era. Right.
And that was, and I'm asking, I'm sort of curious what that looked like. I think it's just like the suits every day, the everything suit.
Like you, like you dressed more like clean, but I think you're like more experimental, like you're more colorful, more vibrant. So maybe he's in his vibrant era instead.
I'll take that. I like that.
You fixed our family. Thank you.
So I feel as though this dynamic is perhaps on display in the show. It's called Wade Brady, the family remix.
Yes. And you've gone from wife guy to ex-wife guy.
Yes. Ex-wife guy.
My ex-wife, we've been ex-wived for... Divorced? That's the word.
Oh, that's the thing. The word for when you ex-wife someone.
Oh, the term is, the term, the word you're looking for is divorce. I'm in my divorce era.
We've been divorced for a long time, since you, you must have been like three, four, five. 19 years, probably 1918 years.
three, four, five. And then we went through a patch where, you know, we had to work things out and we're mad at each other.
But then we were best friends before we got married. So in a way, the whole marriage thing kind of muddied up the friendship.
So when the marriage was gone, it freed us up to just be the best friends and best parents that we could be. That's cool.

Marriage isn't always the solution.

It isn't always the thing.

Well, I think that J.D. Vance would disagree.

He thinks that people should remain unhappily bound together in miserable kind of wars of attrition-like marriages.

Sort of World War I, France versus Germany, trench warfare style marriages. And that's Blitzkrieg in the sheets.
Blitzkrieg in the sheets. Okay.
That's the name of my new adult film that I'll be premiering. So.
Nine, nine. Thank you for that.
So silly. So silly.
Don't even know what to do that so how did you feel when Doug Emhoff's because this show is about you guys building this blended family yes how did you feel when Doug Emhoff's ex-wife Kirsten who is the mother of his two kids defended their stepmom Kamala Harris in the press I felt really about it. Like I saw that like live on Instagram,

like whenever that first happened,

I was like, yeah, that's a good step kid.

Yes, because it shows it's blended

and blended is a good thing.

And how can you bringing two families together?

How can that be bad for the children,

everyone involved?

It's just a bigger.

Oh, I love you. I love you too.
Nine. And you found out about this at Instagram because you're, you're young.
Yeah. Are you, are you Gen Z or Gen Alpha? Oh, I'm Gen Z.
I'm a zillennial. So I have DVDs, VHS.
I'm

born pre-iPhone. Okay.

So that's my

very young brother's gen alpha, but

I'm very proud to be on the older side of

Gen Z. Nice.
Yeah.

And I'm Gen X.

You're Gen X. That must be

exciting. It's awesome to be

Gen X. You're really, the Gen X

gets, um, the boomers, Gen X really does feel like America's middle child. Like Gen X, like the boomers and the millennials get all the noise, all the attention.
We're, we're still cruising towards never having a Gen X president because, uh, Barack Obama and Kamala Harris are technically baby boomers. Trump is a baby boomer.
We think we may just skip right to Pete. You're fucked.
I know that's true, but I don't know why. You know what? That's okay.
That's why. I don't know why.
Because you did a Gen X thing. You said, why is that? Whatever.
Because it doesn't bother me because I played outside. This is the most Gen X thing.
Gen Xers are so annoying. That's their thing.
Wow. A Gen X will never stop talking about how you guys are Gen X.
Yes, you came home when the lights turned off. Like, yes, we get it.
Wolverines! You played in dirt. Like, yes.
Like, congratulations. You drank from the water hose.
Yes. How's that E.
coli going? It's going great because I'm strong as hell. We have amazing immune systems because of all the stuff that we did.
We are smart. We are scrappy.
We are inventive. Yeah.
Yeah. We're dope.
Plus the comedy of Janine Garofalo, which we love.

By the way, when the Gen Xers started booing, I knew my path to getting them to be cheering again was just to say the words, the magic Gen X words, Janine Garofalo. Now, you're an incredible father-daughter pair.
Thank you. Thank you.
and we've also had other father-daughter pairs

on the stage

specifically Danny and Lucy DeVito. Danny and Lucy DeVito, both very talented.
Very talented. Anyway, it's time for a game we call the Newly Dad Game.
And you're not newly. Oh, my God.
I didn't know there was going to be music. I put a baby in somebody.

And here's how it works.

There are boards to your side here.

Here's how it works. You will each write your

answer on the whiteboard. You will then reveal your

answers at my command and we'll find out

who's really pulling their weight around the Brady household.

Just, that's a Tazzo T.

Why is there a teabag in the couch?

Oh.

All right.

Are you ready? Yes. Okay.

First question. All right.

We have to match.

If you get it right.

First question for

Wayne, what is your daughter's favorite

Beyonce song?

Oh, this is hard. I feel like we're trying to think of the song.
Yeah, I love that one. That's a good one.
Oh, let's see. Wayne, what did you say? Crazy in love.
Miley, what's the answer? Crazy in Love! All right.

Danny DeVito!

Take that, Danny DeVito.

Next up for Miley, who is the first person your dad ever voted for?

Washington.

Nice.

Nice.

That's funny, because he's so old. Because he's old.
His face is giving you nothing. Because I trust her.
She's a very, very smart young lady. Okay.
So we've never talked about this, but I'm going to give her the benefit of the doubt that she would have done the math. Well, I have dyscalculia, so.
That's always a good fallback. It's dyslexia for math.
Gen Z knows about dyslexia for math. It has not reached the millennials, and it has certainly not reached Gen X yet.
Oh, I know my learning disabilities. What was your answer? I got it.
Yeah, right. Go.
No, no, you. Two presidents before Clinton? That's so mean.

That's so mean.

Clinton.

The answer was Clinton.

I was eight years off.

All right.

I had just turned a voting age.

I just turned voting age.

Two presidents before.

That would have been.

That's Reagan.

Clinton. I couldn't vote Reagan.
Two presidents before. That would have been.
That's Reagan. Clinton.

I couldn't vote for Reagan.

I was a child.

You were wise beyond your years.

A child.

A child voting for Reagan.

That's fine.

It's fine.

It's fine.

We're good.

We're good.

Clinton was on the board.

No, you're right.

You're right.

For Wayne.

Yes.

What is the quality about you that annoys your daughter the most?

Just a quality.

That's a tough one.

That's such a, God, I bet that's annoying.

I bet that's a really annoying quality.

I am single.

Yeah.

And he's single.

Okay.

So, so that means that I'm this all the time.

Yeah.

That's fun. All right.
Miley, what'd you say? Lateness, question mark. Bad picker, question mark.
What's a bad picker? It's the way he picks his significant others, and it's bad. Well, I did say I have to be right.
See, they're... All right.

For Miley, your father, Wayne Brady, is in the trolley experiment.

He can either throw the lever and kill one person or leave it be and multiple people

will be killed.

What does he do?

Let's say it at the same time.

We do it at the same time?

Yeah.

One person. Hell yeah.
All right. Well, Wayne's going to stick around.
Yeah. That's all my time.
Thank you so much. The show is Wayne Brady, The Family Remix on Freeform.
Yep. And on Hulu the next day.
Hulu the next day. This is awesome.
I'm excited about this. Thank you so much, man.
Wayne, Miley, thank you so much. Thank you so much.
Thank you.

And we're back.

I play video games when I should

be working. She plays video game characters

and is never not working. You can see her in the

upcoming movie Borderlands. It's the incredible

Janina Kavankar.

There we go.

Hi.

Hello.

Nice to see you.

Sorry, it's a bit of a mess.

Good to see you.

Nice to meet you.

Thanks for being here.

Good to see you.

Come on in.

That was perfect.

You and one Miss Cate Blanchett,

star in the forthcoming sci-fi action flick, Borderlands.

Do you think you could take on the real Cate Blanchett in hand-to-hand combat? No. Yeah.
Yeah, she seems tough. Just too talented at everything.
Right. Like, don't warn her that's coming.
She'll prepare. She'll prepare.
She'll understand the motivations by getting the practice that she needs.

And then I'll be fucked.

Yeah.

What is your favorite kind of video game?

Deep narrative video games that take like 90 hours to complete.

I love that.

I completely agree.

You play things.

I do.

You play deep narrative games.

I do.

I understand also one of your favorite games is Portal.

It's my favorite video game.

Period.

Yes.

Clap for Portal.

I don portal two. I love portal and portal two together.
Do you include portal two? Yeah. So good.
Yeah. Do people know how good it is? No, because well, I mean,, okay.
Whoever said, yeah. Do you, have you played through co-op mode? Yes.
Right. Yes.
Do you test your potential partners by like playing co-op and being like, well, if you really want to be together, we have to need to play co-op mode. You don't know know if you're gonna make it in a couple unless you can be shouting something like no no i know i said forward in this case that means up from my side you have to go down which is back that's from your point of view no no no not not left north do you not understand physics you have to go down while i'm going up and then I fire it.
No, no, no. Not left.
North. Do you not understand physics? You have to go down while I'm going up and then I fire it.
No, no, no. I fire it.
Now we're back at the bottom of the fucking swamp. That's right.
That's right. Now my little robot is fucking dead.
Mm-hmm. Another co-op game, Keep Talking and Nobody Explodes.
These really are games. Co-op Portal and Keep Talking and Nobody Explodes really are- Well, they're local multiplayers also.
But they're truly designed to break people, to find the flaws inside of a relationship and rip it to pieces. And or test them and bring you closer together.
Oh, is that what's happened for you? Oh, yeah. So are you still- And that got real dirty dirty.
Yeah. Yes, John.
So, okay. So are you- So who do you play Keep Talking and Nobody Explodes with? Cool people.
Nice. I'll play with you.
Okay. Now, if you had to pick one of your co-stars from the morning show to fight uh why is there fighting always why am i talking because we're doing games like a mortal combat because it's gaming because it's games yeah fine but not all games are about fighting no but the best ones are portal is not about fighting well well you do you do you are fighting GLaDDOS.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It ends in a boss battle.
I don't know what it is. Fighting in a boss battle.
There is a kind of game that is not for... I love storytelling games, but a kind of game where it's like you walk around this small town until you find out while your aunt died.
It's just like not my favorite type of game. No, no, you have to collect all the letters.
I don't like it. I don't love it.
What are your favorites? Favorite games of all time? Portal and Portal 2. Okay.
Bloodborne would be one of my favorite games of all time. But that's so hard.
So hard. Yeah, those are my favorites.
Okay. Oh, you play The Witness? You know The Witness? I'm so happy to be here.
Nobody knows. I did not know.
So, okay. Jonathan Blow made that.
He's a super weirdo indie game developer. I didn't know it until.
I just played it. I don't know anything about it.
He's so weird. We're having such an intense moment.
He should come do your show. Okay.
He's so strange. He has to be strange to make that game.
Brilliant. But brilliant.
It's an

incredible puzzle game. Is this working?

I did not know this was going to

happen. You didn't know I knew about The Witness? No

you just flexed.

It's great. Let's keep going.

So I will admit

that I gave up on Disco Elysium. Okay.
That's fine. You're allowed.
But you like puzzles. I love puzzles.
So Lorelei and the Laser Eye. Haven't played it.
Brand new. Okay.
That's like puzzles within puzzles within puzzles. I played that shit.
Like I had my laptop here. I would take, I put it on, well, it's on Steam.
And then I put it on my big screen TV. And then I would take photos of the screen with my iPad, take out the pen and write on it.
And then I also had a notebook here. And that was like the only way I could make all the puzzles work.
Oh, you gotta. When you're doing, you gotta do screenshots sometimes.
Some of these puzzle games, you gotta do screenshots. Oh, it's so good.
But they want that. They want you to do that.
All right, now in Borderlands, your character, Commander Knox, is the daughter of the game's big bad, General Knox. And, you know, perhaps you're the villain, perhaps you're not.
I mean... Now, if you ask me, and you haven't, the best part of every good video game is a top-notch villain, which is why we're gonna rank some of the best baddies around in a game we're calling Rankin' Vile.

Ooh!

Ooh!

Ah!

What?

Great.

Here's how it works.

We're going to blind rank

five video game villains.

Yeah, fuck it, let's go.

Starting out with Pagan Min

from Far Cry 4.

Oh, yeah.

You voiced the character Amita

in Far Cry 4.

What was that experience like?

And as a follow up, how would one him to get into voice acting if he was interested?

Well, those...

Get into voice acting if I was interested.

Whoever that might be, that interested person.

So that's a full performance capture performance.

You got to be ready to put dots all over your person. Are you into that kind of thing? Sure, I could get there.
Great. And that was the first video game that I performed in.
And I was a very late gamer, so I started playing video games in 2007. And then I just started tweeting all the time, like, is there anybody who needs needs me to be in their game because I wouldn't need a brown girl to be in a game of any kind.
And then finally somebody did and I auditioned and I got it. And that was Far Cry 4.
So I should just, I should tweet does anyone need a brown girl to be in their game? That's exactly right. It'll work perfectly for you.
Perfect. Alright.
Yeah. Alright, so now you have to blind rank in terms of how villainous this character is.
With the crown being the most villainous. This graphic is great.
And you're not going to be able to revise. Oh, God.
No revisions? I would say, I mean, specifically in that game, everybody was a villain, which I loved. There was no way of winning.
So I would say he's like three. Okay.
Got a three. Oh, three.
Right in the middle. That's good.
All right, next up. Look at this.
This is so great. We have Emperor Palpatine from Battlefront 2.
Oh, fucking five, bruh. Five, the greatest.
Okay, well, we'll see. We'll see.
Now, next up, we're doing good. This is so good.
Next up, we have the infected from the last of us are they the villain though like what is the villain those are just the monsters you know what I mean it's like saying a splicer versus you know Frank Fontaine we'll get to Frank we We'll get to Frank. We're going to get to Frank.
You're sort of dodging. I agree.
Yes, the deeper meaning of The Last of Us is is it. I'm putting them at a one.
Okay. Because they're just they're just kind of mindless zombies.
It's not their fault. It's not their fault.
No, they're fault. They're just a mind like, well, you know, I like a villain.
Okay. That's a victim.
And that's an important way to view it.

Because in a sense, isn't the

villain really the losing

of the last of us?

Right? The us.

Yeah, it's a pretty deep observation

that only I've made.

That there's a double meaning in the name

the last of us.

It's not just about the last of us.

It's about the last of us.

And not a lot of people know that.

That that's what that's about.

All right.

Next up, Frank Fontaine from Bioshock.

Well, I don't know who the other one is.

What if the other one is so diabolical that I give him a two and then it would be so inaccurate?

By the way, Bioshock, one of my favorite games of all time.

Bioshock Infinite.

That game made me a gamer.

It's incredible. People don't know about it.
It's just so fun to say people don't know that. What? And then just the outrage.
Just the outrage. I'm going to give Frank, Frankie's going to get a four.
Yeah. I don't know.
No, he's, yeah, fuck that guy. He's a four.
I mean, I think that's a four.

I think that's a four.

The would you kindly.

Would you kindly.

Did you see that coming?

But I'm guileless.

I'm guileless.

When I'm watching a movie, when I'm playing a game, I do not see twists coming at all.

I do not predict them.

I am 100% caught off guard every time.

I am fully.

Even now?

Especially now.

Especially now.

I'm very, yeah. Well, I don't know how to change.
And I, I scheduled a podcast recording where my therapy used to go. So there's not going to be any change on the horizon.
Yes. I replaced a doctor hearing what I think to you people hearing what I think.
It seems like it's going great. And it's working.

All right.

Last to rank, the dark presence from the Alan Wake games.

Well, the cool thing about Alan Wake 2 is that it's like the dark presence is the creative process.

I played it. It's very deep.

Oh, you did?

Mm-hmm.

Man.

I'm super impressed with you. I know.
That feels good. It feels good.
Yes. In Alan Wink, he's a writer who is basically being attacked by his inability to write.
Yeah. It's so good.
It's a yummy, yummy game. Well, I gotta make him a two because it's all that's left.
I think that this is right, though. Is it strong? I think this is a right because the infected, the dark presence preventing him from figuring out his novel.
You're talking about the stakes here. You're really down for the stakes.
Pagan. Frank Fontaine with the worst villain being Emperor Palpatine.
I think that that's right. Okay.
Strong. And Borderlands.
Thank you so much. It was a great ranking.
It was an incredible ranking. And Borderlands is next week.
Yeah. Borderlands is next week.
That's cool. Based on a video game.
That's based on a video game. Now, to be clear, because I work in the games industry so much and I love it so much, I do not think that the end-all-be-all metric of success for video games is to then have a $100 million movie made after it.
Absolutely not. I am still very happy to be a part of one.
Hell yeah. I mean, it's still a good thing.
And I would do you remember the Bob Hoskins John Leguizamo Super Mario Brothers movie oh god it's good it's good it is good yeah people say it's not because they're sheep but it's great is it yeah do I need to go in being very nihilistic and watch it? Or is it like, no, it's legitimately great. I think you should watch it believing the difference between right and wrong.
Okay. I don't know why you'd give up your basic human morals to watch Super Mario Brothers from 1990.
Okay, great. Just keep them on you.
I don't know that you'll need them, but it's nice to have them. Okay, cool.
What an interesting question.

Do I have to, should I be a nihilist to watch Super Mario Brothers starring John Leguizamo and Bob Hoskins?

I hadn't thought about it that way.

Janina, thank you so much.

I was so happy to have been here.

When we come back, Ron Perlman.

Okay.

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Please welcome to the stage here to share his pearls of wisdom. I'm so sorry.
The incredible Ron Perlman. Welcome back.
Come this way. Good to see you.
Thanks for being over. Hug it.
That's so nice. Now, did you attend the white dudes for Harris Zoom? No, I didn't.
They didn't like my credentials. Oh, that's a huge oversight.
They thought dude was going too far or some shit. That sucks.
You should have been a part of it. I know.
You would have crushed. But you know, I'm not much of a joiner.
You're a lone wolf type. They had it covered.
There was a lot of white dudes. They had a lot of white dudes.
They raised $4 million. You know, they had the dude.
They did have the dude. They did have the dude.
The big Lebowski dude. You know, in a sense, though, they did.
In a sense, there's a way in which, and I don't know what I mean by this, so you can't be offended by it. Let's see.
there's a way in which, and I don't know what I mean by this. So you can't be offended by it is there's a way in which, there's a way in which the dude, where, where the characters you play are like the moon.
And there's like a, like, there's like a kind of light and dark. He's, there's a, he, there's like a light and dark.
There's like the dude energy. And then there's the energy energy you bring and there's a kind of like, you know,

you know what I'm saying? Does that make sense to anyone here?

Did it make sense to you

though? Not at all.

But I keep, keep

digging. The last time you were

on, we talked about Ron DeSantis.

Could you have imagined

a new and even more staggering freak

would enter the villa in the

form of J.D. Vance? He's an amateur compared to DeSantis.
Yes, it's like, yes. What do you mean by that? Well, we'll find out.
The best part about watching J.D. Vance right now is how, know he's he's already made a cottage industry out of reinventing himself yes and so uh even his own like the dude who said you're going to be my running mate is you know going to be asking him you need to reinvent yourself again, motherfucker, because, you know.

Right, he's going to have a whole,

he has to do a whole other iteration.

It's so operatic watching all these guys just,

I didn't know you had more than two faces.

Have you ever reinvented yourself?

Constantly.

But by popular demand, mostly.

Right, honey?

My baby's out there.

That was beautiful.

Thank you.

Thank you. Shout out.
Now, we are in a weird moment in history, both literally and with regards to Democrats' new battle cry of Republicans are fucking weird. However, as we've discussed numerous times in the Hallow and Halls of Crooked, it's important to to distinguish between different varieties of weird there's good weird, Austin before Elon Musk moved there and there's bad weird which is wanting the government to get involved in your fucking business and get in there you know, I think that's bad weird which is why we have a segment we're calling good weird, bad weird.
Oh, wow. In which we are never looked lovelier in which we will set side by side.
The good weird and your storied career and the bad weird in our nightmare political factory. First up, good weird, you portrayed a furry in 2017's Michael Shannon holiday comedy, Pottersville.
Let's take a look. What's going on? I can't explain this.
You can explain why you're dressed up like a rabbit and having sex with a squirrel. I'm a wolf.
We don't have sex. That's right.
Now, did you have to get in the suit or did you get to go to a fucking studio and just have somebody else in the suit? I don't know who was in that suit before me, but he's got some slaining to do. That thing.
There was a lot of sweating, obviously, going on in there. Do you see the gay furry hackers hacked a bunch of data from the Heritage Foundation? I couldn't figure out how much data.
who are behind project 2025 do you think it's good that that furries are directing their their attention now from uh sort of sexual congress to to technology yes yeah i agree next up we have that was the right answer, right? Yeah, no, 100%. Next up, bad weird.
Republican vice presidential candidate J.D. Vance claimed that being childish makes people more sociopathic and the country less mentally stable.
There's just these basic cadences of life that I think are really powerful and really, really valuable when you have kids in your life. And the fact that so many people, especially in America's leadership class, just don't have that in their lives.

You know, I worry that it makes people more sociopathic and ultimately our whole country a little bit less, less mentally stable.

Did you find having children made you more mentally stable?

For sure. Yeah.
Yeah. No, I like poverty.
I thought it was bad outside of my house and go have kids, man. But anyway, I digress.
Who do you think does his eye makeup? It is. Well, you know what? I don't want to.
He's clearly doing. He wants to do gender affirming makeup, right? To accentuate his masculinity.
I mean, you talk about a furry. Listen.
You just switch those two segments there. I think you're right.
I think that there are people that I would be surprised to discover wearing some kind of a giant suit while being sexually aroused. And J.D.
Vance would not be one of the first people to surprise me. You know what I'm saying? I said it weird, and that's not me.
Next up, you played Hellboy in Hellboy. Here you are as Hellboy getting drunk with some kind of a lizard man.
You came along just like the song and brightened my day. Who would be like the part of a dream? How do you not love Barry Manilow? Barry Manilow.
Is that Barry Manilow or Paul Anka? Manilow? It's Manilow. You knew.
How do you not love Barry? Gotta love Barry Manilow. Everybody.
Yeah, they love him. Guillermo del Toro.
He seems weird in a good way. he's wonderfully weird what's he like he's just he's delightful really? because some of his stuff is freaky you know he's putting that on oh yeah? he's something he has to get out though.
He's like Jamo. He'd have my vote.

Good weird. You became

Vincent in the TV series Beauty

and the Beast, which premiered in

1987. Here you are as the Beast

learning that a human woman just gave birth to your

hybrid human beast baby.

You make it sound so

fucking wrong.

A child.

He's beautiful.

Yeah, the kid could have come out any number of

ways. Yeah.

Could be just beast from the head up or beast

from the head down. Beast on the left side.
I know which one I'd choose. This show was on when I first became conscious of television, but didn't understand when things would be on.
Me too. Does this make sense? Is there, is there something a little bit clear about the beast and the beauty relationship relationship in that scene but you know there's something about it you know they're violating a norm i was i was just trying to make a living just trying to earn a living in the 1980s and you know how expensive the 80s were the 80s was high flying time white formica you gotta you gotta keep your family in white formica exactly did you have white formica at You gotta keep your family in white formica.
Exactly.

Did you have white formica at the time?

Remember that commercial where everybody's dancing on the kitchen table?

Yeah.

Yeah, I auditioned for that.

Really?

I read for that.

And did you get it?

Fucking idiots.

They didn't know what they had.

They didn't know what they had.

I know.

They had Ron fucking Perlman dancing on that table.

They lived.

They lived to regret it. They'll regret it till the day they die.

I just want to do good weird.

Who's, if I've had enough of these Republicans.

I would hate to clean up after you.

You turned, your turn as the caveman Amaukar?

Amaukar.

Amaukar.

In 1981's Quest for Fire.

I can't believe you mispronounced that.

I'm sorry, that's embarrassing. Here you are learning to make that titular fire.
This is good. Cut off, cut off.
Okay, okay, okay. I have something to say about that.
What do you got? That was, you know how when you go to the Catskills, there's a tumble, guy who does the jokes and introduces all the big acts and stuff. I know about the Catskills.
Usually all his punchlines are in Yiddish. Yeah.
And you're still funny because his timing is so good. That's the tumble.
That was me telling the first joke ever in the history of mankind. Did you get it? Yeah, it was really good.
With the getting on an elephant and going run, run. Now I get it.
Yeah. You gotta explain it.
How good could it be? Hey, two old Jews. Two old Jews are sitting at a counter having soup.
And one old Jew says to the other old Jew, hey, Morty, you getting any on the side? And Morty replies, they moved it? All right. A couple of cannibals are eating a clown.
One turns to the other and says, does he taste funny to you? This is the good stuff. You applaud that applaud you guys pearls before swine if you guys got some place to go we're gonna be here a while doing this shit all right here we have uh jesse waters uh sharing his thoughts on men voting for kamala this is some bad weird what do you think about this to be a man and then vote for a woman just because she's a woman is either childish that person has mommy issues or they're just trying to be accepted by other women and i heard the scientists say the other day that when a man votes for a woman he actually transitions into a woman it's happening we're all we're all gonna become which is crazy right as if we't know that.
Yeah, we already knew. That's part of the fun of it.
Hey, listen, you're a straight guy. Well.
Do you feel your masculinity threatened to the degree that he feels his masculinity is threatened? Is it that hard out there to just be a straight guy? I have been dancing my fucking ass off since Kamala came down the escalator. Yeah.
Because she's going to... The somersaults we just saw this white motherfucker do, that ain't nothing compared to what the next 93 days are going to look like now yeah she is gonna have these guys i mean it's gonna be something to behold but how do you so yeah they're losing their minds they're losing their minds over this but they think there's something tough about being a man this way by saying like,

oh, you know, only, only fags and women would vote for a woman basically.

But like, I feel like we, like,

I feel like the characters you play have a different version of toughness that doesn't require that kind of, I don't know, whining.

That like toughness is something internal.

Well, if the script calls for it, you know.

You'll whine and you'll whine like nobody's business.

I will get a whining

coach. I'll do, I'm

very professional.

But you know what I mean? That there's a toughness that you play.

Give me your version of whining.

But even that, you're tough. That's too

Jewish. Anyway.

Hey, turn the bagel down. You see where I'm going?

Yeah, I do

see where you're going.

Now I want to do a good weird.

Where am I going?

Where are we going?

Finally, we have your turn in 1996,

the island of Dr. Moreau,

across from Val Kilmer as the sayer of the law.

Who has done this?

Evil is he who breaks the law. Was Brando around? I adored Mr.
Brando. But he was going through something at the time that was truly heartbreaking.
That was right after the gunshot that killed Dagdrelae accidentally and Christian was involved. And then that resulted in Marlon having a contract taken out on him in his island of Terraro, if you ever set foot back on it, because he defended his son against Dagdrelae, who was one of the princes of Terraroa.
And because he took that position, they took the one place that he could go have peace away from him. He couldn't go back to Terraroa.
And then his favorite child, Cheyenne, because of all of this, this is a story. This is supposed to be comedy right

yeah I'm sorry man but

she committed suicide so

that's when I met Marlon

and he was fighting these

horrific

demons

and yet was

he's Irish he has this kind of

leprechaunish kind of

like you know you make him laugh

you know

he just loves jokes he loves

Thank you. he's Irish and he has this kind of leprechaun-ish kind of like, you know, you make him laugh and you, you, you, you know, he's just loves jokes.
He loves lightness. He loves people who can, you know, fuck with them.
And so the juxtaposition of seeing him this way, where he's just, you know, fighting for his life to maintain some sort of reason to like not completely fall apart and then be this leprechaunish impish figure in this strange movie with like human animal hybrids. Yeah.
You did a lot of human animal hybrid work. What do you think that says about you? It pays well.
There's not a lot of people who are willing to do that kind of work, but it must be done. I'm on a short list.
And if it's a short leash and if somebody has got to do it, you're going to do it. I'm going to do it.
It pays. Well, I mentioned that, right? Yeah, you did.
You did. You did.
Rob Perlman, everybody. We'll be right back and stick around.
And we're back.

Before we get to tonight's wheel,

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But as Stacey Abrams would say,

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On our new show, Assembly Required with Stacey Abrams,

Stacey is joined by organizing experts and progressive leaders

to bring it back and digestible. It's a little, a weekly dose of positivity and information and great conversation.
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Please welcome back to the stage, Wayne Brady and Janita Kavankar. All right.
So here's how this works. We're going to celebrate the Paris games in classic love it or Leave It style by making it all about us.
It's time for the Average Joelympics. By the way, thank you all.

That's it.

We're done.

That was so good.

Here's how it works.

We will spin the wheel and each of us will share an everyday task or activity, which we think we could win the gold medal in if and when it's added to the Olympics.

Ooh.

All right.

Let's spin.

Spinning?

Oh, we do have a wheel.

Nice. Let's spin the wheel.
Oh, we do have a wheel.

Nice.

Janina, it's yours.

Coupon maxing.

Oh.

I love a deal.

Go for the gold.

So you'll get the gold in a coupon maxing. That's right.
Okay. Let's spin it again.
What happens if it goes back to Gina? It's sort of a rigged deal. It's like the Canadian soccer team, you know? Oh, what? Fucking what? Grow up.
Grow up. They were cheating.
They were cheating. It's in the emails.
Oh, no, I just heard that. Really? The Canadians were cheating? Yes.
The Canadians were, and I've said it before. I'll say it again.
The Canadians? They cannot be trusted. The niceness is fake.
Which sport? Every time in Montreal, I feel it. It's just something off.
There's something off in Montreal. How do you cheat at soccer? They were sending up drones to film the Dutch from above.
They were filming the Dutch from above. But how's that cheating? That's just game footage.
Isn't that studying? That's what the Canadian cheaters said. No, it's like football because you want to know who you're playing.
So you get footage and go, all right, coach, I'll get that guy, blah, blah, blah. And then you play him.
Listen. He's Canadian.
Fuck you, eh? So the audience shouted, he's a Canadian. You know what's amazing about that? I'm a secret Canadian.
You know what? You know what's amazing about that? These people are like, I can't believe what Trump says about immigrants. You people were fucking five seconds away from chasing Wayne Brady out onto Wilshire Boulevard.
With axes and torches. Unbelievable.
Unbelievable. So I don't, you're making, that's I'm sure what the Canadians will say.
But apparently it it's unethical and not allowed it's unethical it doesn't mean that it's well they did get they get they got people not they're not going to nobody's going to jail i don't even know if they have jails in canada but they're not going to one i think they do they have something i think they like kind of want to take a take away or make you sit in the corner or something but but regardless no they had they they lost points they had to they the canadian team was penalized penalized. They had to fight.
I don't know what, beyond that, we're outside of my ken, you know? Wade and Brady. We're just going further and further away from your knowledge base.
From my knowledge base. You don't trust Canadians, right, Ron? I never met one I could trust.
Never once. Not in Montreal.
No. Vancouver? Oh my god.
Stay away from Vancouver. Do you know that The Simpsons...
Don't ever go to Edmonton. Never go to Edmonton.
Never go with a Canadian to a second location. There's a Drake joke in here somewhere.
For sure. And that was it.
We got him. We got Drake.
That's another reason. Do you know there's two kinds of, when they take The Simpsons and they put it in other languages, they do two versions of French.
They do the France version and the Quebec version. The Quebec version's worse.
Because they say that the actual French, they don't respect the Quebecois, that they laugh at them. Yeah, and I agree.
Yeah. I take their side in that one.
Is that why they were disqualified? Yeah, it was part of it. It was part of it.
Wayne, I'm so sorry. It landed on you, and I've interrupted with nonsense.
Oh, it's okay. What is an everyday activity in which you would win a gold medal? Easily.
Old man grousing about young people's music. Oh, interesting.
Gold medalist. Gold medalist.
Yeah. What don't you like? I don't like the fact, see, I love music.
Music has influenced my comedy. I love music.
I love music in all forms. I listen to practically everything.
Cause that's our generation, right? Like generation X. Yeah.
Grunge. I loved, we didn't grow up with all the, Oh, it's this music and this music.
You can listen to Lionel Richie and then you could hear run dmc cindy lopper slayer def leopard all on the same all in the same damn hour and we loved it we learned so much and we accepted all music now now the kids are like this is rap i didn't listen and you'll be the devil but what the shit did you just say i don't understand it I don't like it. I don't like the little beach.
I hate when tapping, it doesn't make any sense. Storytelling and music.
Someone hand this man a medal. Give him the gold medal.
I win. Give him the gold medal.
He wins. I win.
Melody. Where's the melody?

Huh?

Do you like Chapel Rhone?

Shut up, you.

No, you would like it.

That's tough.

That's it.

That's me.

That's him.

Gold medal.

That's him.

Gold medal.

Let's spin it again.

I wonder if it'll be your one. Such a mystery.
It's rigged. Ron, what would you win the gold medal in? Napping.
Napping? You're good at napping? I believe that's a skill. So what is your napping skill like? Tell me about that.
It's very invested. I'm very invested in napping.
You know, Harry Truman said that everybody could benefit from a 15 minute nap and no more than 15 minutes, but one must strip all the way down to the knickers. Do you, do you strip all the way down to your underwear for your naps? No.
Oh, not a fan of Harry Truman? No. I'm not a fan of my body, so I don't even go shirtless in my own house when I'm alone there.
Really? Are you a never nude? Never. Never.
Never nude? Never nude? You know, Harry Truman wasn't nice. There are dozens of them.
There are dozens of them. You too? So being nude is awesome.
I love being nude. He's not a never nude.
You gotta be, you gotta be, you gotta get comfortable for these naps. Are you in a chair or the bed? Oh, I'm in the bed.
You're in the bed. Oh, yeah.
Above the sheets or in the sheets? Depends on what season we're in. And are you, and do you have any kind of, I think a good rule of napping is that if it's, if it was light out when you started napping and it's dark out when you wake up you fucked up that's a fucked up now that's a nap you fucked up do you agree with that or disagree with that you're gonna be up for a while yeah but do you agree it's a mistake um it's a miscalculation i wouldn't go i wouldn't go so far as to call it a mistake i mean i'm really i don't I don't know if I mentioned it, but I'm really invested in my napping.
And if there's a light change, you know, I just, I take that as thank you, God. You're waking up in the morning.
What time is it? Typical Ron Perlman morning. What time is it when you wake up? Seven.
Classic. Classic.

Great time to wake up.

The pandemic

changed everything for everybody, didn't it?

We all were in bed by 9.30,

10 o'clock. I mean, I was

a guy, if you left for me on my own devices,

I would stay up till 4 o'clock in the morning and

sleep till 11.30 in the morning. Really?

I was like a musician

biorhythms, you know?

Right. And the great

black and white movies

Thank you. sleep till 11 30 in the morning really i was like a musician biorhythms you know right and the great black and white movies on at like two o'clock in the morning nobody there to bother you no one's gonna bother you when you're watching the third man get in the refrigerator you get in the you get in the refrigerator you like snack your ass whatever you want you don't even have to head back up there watch the malte Maltese Falcon.
You don't even have to take it out of the refrigerator. You just stay right in there.

You can eat at the fridge.

Get a breeze.

You can eat up at the fridge and go watch Rope.

Rope.

Alfred Hitchcock, come on.

Everybody knows that.

Let's spin it again it's landed on me and I deserve a gold medal in ordering Panda Express I'm really good at it and I don't know what I'm doing that makes me good at it but I can have Panda Panda. If I think about Panda Express, it's here.
That's how quickly I can make these deliveries happen. And there's only, I know the correct order.
It's in part actually inspired by Chris because I would always get the orange, orange chicken and then try a random other thing. And then you explained to me that the Beijing beef is the orange chicken of beef.

That makes complete sense. And if you know, you know.
I'm starting to change my mind. And now we know.
And I don't feel that great after, but that's not what the metal is for. The metal isn't for having a perfect BM.
I think if you're going to sacrifice that much of your intestinal fortitude, you should get a medal. You should get a medal.
I think we've all deserved our medals tonight. I feel really good about that.
Thanks. Now, I think actually we should have a medal ceremony.
Here's how it's going to work. You're going to applaud for who do you think deserves the medal the most.
So the categories are Ron for napping. All right.
I'll just say them all first. Just chill out.
Well, thanks for that. Yeah.
That was it. That was my fault.
Now I know the sound of one hand clapping. They didn't know.
They didn't know if I was just introducing or if it was time to applaud. They were actually, they were flummoxed by me.
Yeah, yeah, no, I think that fucking thing's rigged. So it's napping.
It's fake news here. It's Wayne saying you can listen to different kinds of music like you used to, which is.
No, no, no, no. You just, wow.
Canadian. You just, and also Chapel Roan's bat.
You just, no. Mine was, I complain about the state of music now versus when I was growing up, metal.
Okay, okay. Old man grousing about music.
You're right, old man grousing about music. And you are doing coupons.
Maxing. You're maxing.
Are we getting a 15% on top of a 20% sometimes?

Oh, yes.

Sometimes we're doubling them up, tripling them up.

And then I ordered Panda Express,

which, you know, is what it is.

All right.

Janina.

Some love.

Wayne.

Ron.

Wow.

Wow.

I'm going to say,

these are the rules of the game.

It's bronze.

Who got the silver?

Ron.

Ron got the silver.

Silver medal for a silver fox.

And the gold goes to Wayne Brady. When we come back, we'll end on a high note.
And we're back because we all need it this week. Here it is, the high note.
Okay, so I've been looking for the right outlet to tell this story and this is perfect i'm cory i'm from philly and my high note came in the car on my way to work it was one of the first few days after the announcement of the kamala harris campaign so i'm very excited about her the energy around her feeling good i turn on dj xX, Spotify's AI DJ that just chooses music, it thinks you'll like, it'll fit your current mood, and it starts playing all this explicitly celebratory music, like That's the Way I Like It by Casey and the Sunshine Band, stuff like that, stuff I don't listen to regularly and i'm like what is going on here does djx know are they in on it and then the last song it plays is called coconuts by kim petrus which i think is a direct nod to what djx was doing as part of democratic deep state. And if you haven't heard it, just an incredible work of art.
Listen to it and you'll understand. Thanks, everybody.
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