What a Weekday: Cat Ladies, Crypto, and Court Reform

Speaker 1 The Kia Sportage Turbo Hybrid has a full design, a spacious interior with 232 horsepower, and a 12.3-inch panoramic display to keep the adventure going and fit with the way you live.

Speaker 1 And with SiriusXM, every drive comes alive, bringing you closer to the music, sports, talk, and podcasts you love, right in your vehicle or on the Sirius XM app.

Speaker 1 Every Sirius XM-equipped Kia Sportage Turbo Hybrid includes a three-month trial subscription to SiriusXM, so the experience begins the moment you drive.

Speaker 1 Learn more at kia.com/slash fortage dash hybrid. Kia movement that inspires.

Speaker 2 I think I could do poma horse.

Speaker 3 Oh my god.

Speaker 3 I'm so sorry. I'm not allowing that to do.
What are you doing? I wish you would probably get onto a pommel horse easily. I don't know about that.

Speaker 2 No one chimes in. Bum bum one time.
Dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun. Never help me.
Dun da dun dun dun.

Speaker 3 He got this.

Speaker 4 And we're back.

Speaker 2 I'm here with Sarah. I'm here with Kendra.
I'm here with Hallie for another edition of What a Week Day. Let's get into it.

Speaker 2 What a weekday.

Speaker 2 On Friday, Donald Trump addressed a Christian audience in West Palm Beach, Florida and told them this.

Speaker 5 Christians get out and vote just this time.

Speaker 5 You won't have to do it anymore. Four more years.
You know what? It'll be fixed. It'll be fine.
You won't have to vote anymore.

Speaker 2 Continued Trump. Enough of this pesky voting.
Christians need to spend their time doing what Christians love. Kissing pictures of Jesus, praying for me to win at golf, whatever you freaks are into.

Speaker 2 I mean, whatever us freaks are into. This was circulated as like Donald Trump will end democracy, and I do believe he would love to do that.

Speaker 2 But this is also an example of Donald Trump doing a riff he's done before, but just in a worse way. He does this riff, and it's a riff about how Democrats steal elections through voter fraud.

Speaker 2 I'll fix the voter fraud. If there weren't Democratic voter fraud, we'd win in a landslide every time.
Like, that's

Speaker 2 what he's, I mean, that's also a lie and an effort to undermine democracy. But, like, that's the specific way in this case, he was trying to undermine democracy.

Speaker 6 It's just hard because it's like so much of this requires us to sift through his incoherent ramblings for meaning.

Speaker 3 Yeah, you got to know the canon.

Speaker 6 Yeah, you really do.

Speaker 3 It was pretty coherent to me. He said, it'll be fixed.
I just, he said the quiet part out loud. That's true.

Speaker 6 That's the flip side is what he actually said? Right.

Speaker 2 Then on Saturday, Trump spoke at the annual Bitcoin Convention in Nashville, Tennessee, promising to ensure that America becomes the crypto capital of the planet and the Bitcoin superpower of the world.

Speaker 2 And if I, he went on to say, and if I become president, I pledge that we will get a woman to attend this conference.

Speaker 2 Trump also delivered this

Speaker 2 berserk warning.

Speaker 5 If they win this election, every one of you will be gone. gone.
They will be vicious. They will be ruthless.
They will do things that you wouldn't believe.

Speaker 5 But right now, because of me, they're leaving you alone. So please say thank you, President Trump.

Speaker 3 Thank you very much.

Speaker 2 They'll blow up the blockchain, blow it right up with a big stick of dynamite. You've never seen a blockchain in so many pieces.

Speaker 2 So there is some kind of actual argument under all of this, which is actually even worse.

Speaker 2 Democrats and many Republicans do worry about the ridiculous, unregulated digital market as a nexus of corruption, crime, abuse, trafficking, fraud, and ruin for people sucked into the promise of quick wealth.

Speaker 2 But he's saying, don't worry, I'm corrupt, so you won't have to worry about that if I win. I am a corrupt person.

Speaker 2 In fact, my corruption is so powerful, it can move backwards through time and prevent regulation before I'm even president.

Speaker 2 Then there was this.

Speaker 5 But we will be creating so much electricity that you'll be saying, please, please, president, we don't want any more electricity. We can't stand it.
You'll be begging me, no more electricity, sir.

Speaker 5 We have enough. We have enough.

Speaker 2 Now, everybody is focusing on how ridiculous this sounds, and it does sound ridiculous, but it's wrong on its face.

Speaker 2 So again, like we get focused on how insane he is, and then if you translate it, it's even worse. Because Trump did not pass an infrastructure bill.
Biden signed an infrastructure bill.

Speaker 2 Biden signed the Inflation Reduction Act to bring more wind power and solar and clean energy into the grid. Biden actually addresses and solves the problems that Trump is claiming only he can fix.

Speaker 2 He just wants to go around sounding like the guy who's going to get in there and fix something, but he doesn't care or know how to fix anything. Trump is like you critiquing Olympians on the couch.

Speaker 2 Look at that. You can't pike like that and not lose points.

Speaker 3 Well, they can't.

Speaker 2 And they can't.

Speaker 3 Unless they're the U.S. women's gymnastics team, in which case you got a buffer.

Speaker 2 No spoilers, because I think I'm a few, you know, we're on French time.

Speaker 2 You know, the other thing, too, is one thing I'm frustrated by in the Olympic coverage every single Olympics is that the judges are so biased towards our athletes that they're like, that's the greatest routine I've ever seen.

Speaker 2 And then it gets like a 14 instead of a 14.5. I'm like, that's wrong.
That's wrong. And it's like, well, can I just,

Speaker 2 can we just, can you just help us out? I don't know. Like, I don't, look, this isn't 2016.
I don't need to tell me why Hillary's going to win. You know what I mean? Like, what's going on here?

Speaker 2 I want the hard facts.

Speaker 3 Well, you got to watch the World Feed commentators, not the NBC commentators.

Speaker 2 No, that's worse.

Speaker 3 That's worse. I don't want to hear.

Speaker 2 I want, I want, I want.

Speaker 3 You want the bias. I want, yes.

Speaker 2 On some level, I do want. I want a little less.
I want it here and there. I guess here's what I want.
I want unvarnished, unbiased,

Speaker 2 fact-based coverage by people rooting for Americans at every turn. You know, there's apparently a feed where that Peacock apparently has a feed where NBC does.

Speaker 3 The highlights, and it's just events that Americans have lost.

Speaker 3 I was like, oh, Olympic highlights, perfect. I haven't seen anything yet.
And it was just Americans winning and winning and winning.

Speaker 3 I think it's called all medals. Yeah, something like Austin was just selling all our medals.

Speaker 2 It's basically like a porn compilation for the Olympics. Just like, I don't want to see Americans fall.
I don't want to see Americans lose.

Speaker 2 I don't want to see some Romanian outswim us by seven tenths of a second. I want to watch Americans winning medals over and over and over again.
And I love that for us.

Speaker 2 Here's how Trump concluded his speech.

Speaker 5 Thank you all. Have a good time with your Bitcoin and

Speaker 5 your crypto and everything else that you're playing with.

Speaker 2 Enjoy your Nintendos.

Speaker 2 This fucking guy. He does.

Speaker 6 I feel like he intentionally switched his tie to make himself look worse to signal to, like, again, that's not intentional.

Speaker 6 I mean, like, it's like he always has the blue suit and the red tie, and this is different and worse. And I'm like, I guess he knows his audience.

Speaker 3 The shiny blue is bouncing up and highlighting the orange and also the blonde, the fake blonde hair more. That's wild.

Speaker 2 Honestly, I think it looks good.

Speaker 3 Oh, good. And it's a good day for him.

Speaker 6 They got Love It. They got me.

Speaker 3 It feels like that he can't hide his disdain for this because the only thing he knows about Bitcoin is that Don Jr is super into it. So that's his only point of reference.

Speaker 3 So you're all just little fuck ups, aren't you?

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's just he, well, he also like he can't take it seriously. It's so stupid.
He knows he, listen, the man knows a scam.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 2 And he's only here because Don Jr. is into it and his rich donors are into it.
He's got the backing of these rich crypto people that are that are basically treating Trump as

Speaker 2 just a direct investment, right? Let's invest this money in Trump. He'll protect crypto.
We'll make more money. So he's like, have fun with your Bitcoins Bitcoins or whatever, which is like

Speaker 2 the,

Speaker 2 that's why he's like, like, the silliness of this is what's getting covered, the electricity thing, the have fun with your crypto and your Bitcoins, like the rampant corruption of it,

Speaker 2 right? Like, if you take what he is saying and translate it,

Speaker 2 it translates into direct corruption, which seems to me a bigger deal.

Speaker 6 Yeah, he wants to make a deal. That's why he's like, I'm here to make a deal.

Speaker 3 That's all you need to know.

Speaker 2 On Saturday night, Trump held a rally in St. Cloud, Minnesota, and put the final nail into the unity coffin.

Speaker 5 I want to be

Speaker 5 No, I haven't changed. Maybe I've gotten worse, actually.

Speaker 2 I hope every reporter out there who fell for Trump's new tone again takes a long, hard look at themselves in the bowl of clam chowder that Trump told them is a mirror.

Speaker 2 You can't see yourself in a bowl of clam chowder.

Speaker 3 But by God, they'll try. Now I want clam chowder.
It's before noon, Hallie.

Speaker 2 It's chowder o'clock somewhere.

Speaker 6 Before Labor Day?

Speaker 2 Trump claimed that if he doesn't win in Minnesota in November, it will be because the election was stolen.

Speaker 5 If they don't cheat, we win this state easily. Okay.
They cheat. They have no shame.
They cheat. Do you understand that, you crooked people? They're the most crooked.

Speaker 5 They cheat. They cheated in the last election, and they're going to cheat in this election, but we're going to get them.

Speaker 2 Always nice to get a name check.

Speaker 2 Worth noting, too, that he's in Minnesota, which is probably not. where he would go had he known that Kamala Harris would be the nominee because the polling out of Minnesota has gotten

Speaker 2 10 points back right yeah it's just we're back to where we kind of hoped because this was you know Minnesota Virginia these were the places where they were going to kind of show strength and now he's in Minnesota but I mean maybe it helps him in Wisconsin but he's not competitive in Minnesota anymore so they have really not they still haven't fully adjusted to the fact that Kamala is the nominee but let's check in on a man who has not admitted to fucking a couch in a best-selling memoir but who has a private life and we don't really know anything about that.

Speaker 2 I'm speaking, of course, about Johnny Depp Vance. Sunday Fox Who's host Trey Gowdy raked J.D.

Speaker 2 Vance over the Coles for criticizing Kamala Harris and other Democratic leaders as childless before welcoming him onto the show.

Speaker 7 And it's not just Catholic nuts. Some of the finest people I know don't have children.

Speaker 7 Teachers and guidance counselors and lawyers and doctors, and they love other people's children enough to teach and guide and protect and minister to them. Some people choose not to have children.

Speaker 7 Others desperately want them, but they can't.

Speaker 2 Betty for Dan, Gloria Steinem, Trey Gowdy. A beautiful tradition.
Gowdy concluded, the American people are forgiving if we ask. But Vance didn't apologize for his childless cat lady comments.

Speaker 2 Instead, he said this.

Speaker 8 If you look at the full context of what I said, it's very clear the Democrats have tried to take this thing out of context and blow it out of proportion, which is what they always do, Trey, because they don't have an agenda to run on themselves.

Speaker 2 But here's the problem. This isn't out of context.
This is something J.D. Vance has said over and over and over again.
As Andrew Kaczynski and M.

Speaker 2 Stein of CNN and others have noted, in September of 2021, Vance posted, the cat ladies, man, they must be stopped.

Speaker 2 In a fundraising email, he described the serious issue of radical childless leaders in this country. Fighting back won't be easy.
Our childless opponents have a lot of free time.

Speaker 2 Or you can see Vance making this argument here.

Speaker 10 There's just these basic cadences of life that I think are really powerful and really, really valuable when you have kids in your life.

Speaker 10 And the fact that so many people, especially in America's leadership class, just don't have that in their lives, you know, I worry that it makes people more sociopathic and ultimately our whole country a little bit less

Speaker 10 mentally stable. You go on Twitter and almost always the people who are most deranged and most psychotic are people who don't have kids at home.

Speaker 2 Or you can see him make the exact same argument here.

Speaker 11 If you're a childless adult living in New York City, you probably care more about your house cleaner than you do about the children of America.

Speaker 2 We've allowed the Democrats to become dominated by a bunch of sociopaths who don't care about america's children there is no broader context that makes this less offensive it's actually quite difficult to figure out how to make these comments worse by taking them out of context childless cat ladies must be stopped so that i can buy them ice cream these gals are moving too fast childless cat ladies must be stopped they're making me too horny fence also tried to defend his comments by straight up lying about kamala harris's position on the child tax credit i think a lot of parents and a lot of non-parents look at our public policy over the last four years and ask how did we get to this place how did we get to a place where kamala harris is calling for an end to the child tax credit how did we get to this place i made up and furthermore who put all these sexy sexy couches here kamala harris is not against the child tax credit democrats are for the child tax credit democrats are who push for the child tax credit if the child tax credit has been extended it has been because democrats fought for it and republicans uh eventually acceded to it as part of a negotiation.

Speaker 2 Right now, there's an extension of the child tax credit that's locked up in the Senate because they don't have the votes. Why do they not have the votes? Because of Republicans.

Speaker 2 There is like, we don't need to, like, it is just such a clean argument. Like, Democrats are for the child tax credit, Republicans aren't.
But it is like,

Speaker 2 there is a,

Speaker 2 there is like a deeper philosophical substantive point that J.D. Vance is making here.

Speaker 2 And the way he often has made it in the past, like, if you get into this sort of like, you know, traditional conservative argument, like one, what he has said in the past is,

Speaker 2 I

Speaker 2 I am more open to an extension of the child tax credit than I am to a universal child care benefit. Why?

Speaker 2 Because their view is universal child care subsidizes parents who both work, which they view as not as good as having a stay-at-home parent, which doesn't mean a stay-at-home mom.

Speaker 2 And so a child tax credit doesn't push, doesn't reward both parents for working. It just rewards you however you want to raise your children.

Speaker 2 However, how this manifests is they oppose both, but oppose one more, right? In both cases, parents are not getting the help they need financially to raise children.

Speaker 2 It is Democrats fighting to provide families with that help and to provide resources to people who might want to have families.

Speaker 2 The only way in which Republicans are trying to incentivize people to have children is to call them weird or terrible,

Speaker 2 is to call them bad people if they don't have kids. That's it.

Speaker 2 We will make it illegal for you to make choices about your body, so you have to have children. And then once you do, you're on your fucking own.
And if you do a bad job, that's on you.

Speaker 2 If you don't have kids, that's because there's something wrong with you. Like, what a fucking, like, even if you take it in the most generous way possible, it is a despicable worldview.

Speaker 6 Well, as a bunch of childless cat ladies here, it's like, we're all childless cat ladies. It really speaks to how he talks about how we don't have an agenda.
They don't have an argument anymore.

Speaker 6 And that's because the argument has been slowly undermined by the advancement of women, black people, queer people, trans people.

Speaker 6 Like, we have passed the point in time in which you could like humiliate me into what, getting married to a man and having a child so JD Vance doesn't like me?

Speaker 6 Like they have to make such an extreme argument, which by the way, he to me reminds me of Elon Musk, where they don't, he doesn't actually care about his own children because if he did, he would be like, oh my God, we have to fix climate change.

Speaker 6 We have to make sure they have actual schooling. Like he would be looking forward.

Speaker 6 He would understand that his children are part of a pool of children that we are all responsible for, but he can't see it.

Speaker 6 His children are a cudgel or and an argument to use over people, in this case, Kamala Harris, but it has nothing to do with the actual children.

Speaker 6 And I just feel like for our side, at least it's so transparent that this is the argument he has to make where it's like, I am grateful to be a childless. I don't even have a cat.

Speaker 3 Like, I just like, you are making the argument. I am

Speaker 3 not going to get cats. I'm very allergic to cats.
You guys want to get a cat and share it?

Speaker 6 You want to share a cat? I want to get a hairless cat, like one of the

Speaker 3 little aliens. Not for all of us.

Speaker 6 Not for everybody.

Speaker 6 But I think it's like, this is what it comes down to is like, there is no proactive argument to be made because the proactive argument would be, oh, if you want to have kids, let's provide these financial incentives or let's actually help people who want to have children.

Speaker 6 They have no investment because they don't want to do that. They want to get make money off Bitcoin and then fuck everyone over.

Speaker 3 And like also for the record, like, so I grew up with a stay-at-home mom. My mom did not work until I was like out of college and that was because of divorce.

Speaker 3 And like being a stay-at-home mom doesn't, she was, you know, she was on the library board. She was doing, like, she was doing various activities and stuff.

Speaker 3 And hell, if I could just stay home and maybe, like, occasionally, like, go interview Kerry Washington every once in a while for some fun money, I would. And that's a valid choice.

Speaker 3 However, we're not set up economically to do that. And that's also their fault.

Speaker 2 But so, this is, well, part of it, though, this is why it's like all this stuff ties together. So

Speaker 2 there has been a turn, right? Like, there's been a turn against democracy, and there's been a turn against freedom on that side. Why?

Speaker 2 Because what they want to do is create a permission structure to say your decisions are not wholly your own because the way you live your life is forcing me to live my life a certain way.

Speaker 2 You being trans forces me to raise my children away. You wanting to get married forces me to cater your wedding or whatever.

Speaker 2 And part of it too is you being a cosmopolitan

Speaker 2 childless couple in which both the

Speaker 2 man and woman see themselves as equals and both both providing for the household has created economic conditions that require my spouse to work and you're forcing on that forcing that on us and these liberal values are being inflicted on us so we are well within our rights to try to restrict their your basic freedoms to protect our way of life like that's the the underlying kind of that's how you get back to the like fascistic authoritarian control because they this is all part this is the kind of the edge of a kind of permission to restrict other people's freedom and way of living that you don't agree with because you're trying to make an argument that it's hurting you i also think the childless part is all a part of this

Speaker 6 uh i i always think of marjorie taylor green um going on 60 minutes and saying that all democrats are pedophiles like this is connected to this idea that you should be afraid and isolate your family and your children from other people in your community rather than which is the reality which is we all live in community so when tray gowdy says like well nuns don't have kids and like their counselors and teachers, like, yeah, so you should talk to the people in your party about the argument they're making.

Speaker 6 That's not on us. Yes, this will also hurt people on your side.
This will also affect childless conservative people who they will then be excised out and who also we do need.

Speaker 6 Like we do need childless librarians or soccer coaches. Like we do need people who don't have kids to help raise our children.
That's on you, bitch.

Speaker 3 Well, that's the cool thing.

Speaker 2 That's the, like, that's what makes this clip great, right? Because actually, Trey Gowdy is doing that. And you have to remember.
so first of all, everybody should go watch it. I mentioned the PSA.

Speaker 2 You should go see Trey Gowdy make this argument because it's actually quite moving. And you should watch it remembering that J.D.

Speaker 2 Vance is sitting in a studio in some swing state with an IFB in his ear, listening to Trey Gowdy for six minutes speak passionately about why he finds this argument so ugly.

Speaker 2 But that wasn't the end of J.D. Vance

Speaker 2 slipping up. In a recording reported by by the Washington Post Monday, Vance privately fretted over Kamala Harris replacing Biden, and CNN shared the audio.

Speaker 12 The bad news is that Kamala Harris does not have the same baggage as Joe Biden because whatever we might say, Kamala Harris is a lot younger, and Kamala Harris is obviously not struggling in the same ways that Joe Biden did.

Speaker 2 And thank God, nobody wants Joe Biden's baggage. Imagine what's in there.
Some 50-year-old undershirts because they don't make them like this anymore.

Speaker 2 An ice cream-stained Dop Kit and discontinued pomade.

Speaker 2 A lambskin condom from that.

Speaker 6 Remember that when we used to have those?

Speaker 2 Down there, deep there in the bottom that he's had since before Jill.

Speaker 6 Leave us a comment. Do they still make lambskin condoms?

Speaker 3 Some people are allergic to late taxes. You're right.

Speaker 2 Leave Hallie a comment.

Speaker 6 Leave me a comment.

Speaker 2 Make sure it's address that one to Hallie. Thanks.
On Monday, Donald Trump sat down with Fox and Laura Ingram to defend J.D. Vance.

Speaker 5 He made a statement having to do with families.

Speaker 5 That doesn't mean that people that aren't a member of a big and beautiful family with with 400 children around and everything else, it doesn't mean that a person doesn't have, he's not against anything, but he loves family.

Speaker 2 That's what you want. You want the top of the ticket going out there and trying to salvage the reputation of the VP candidate.

Speaker 2 Do you know how bad your rollout has to be going, that they have to send out Donald Trump to clean up your stupid insults?

Speaker 2 That your stupid insults are so bad that Donald Trump is going out there to try to humanize you and fix it.

Speaker 2 That's bananas.

Speaker 2 It's like sending Godzilla to clean up Eric Adams, New York. Sure, more people are excited to see him, but he's not going to undestroy Midtown.

Speaker 2 Meanwhile, Vice President Harris said she will be at next month's presidential debate, which Biden and Trump previously agreed to, whether Trump decides to attend or not.

Speaker 2 Said her spokesperson, if Donald Trump and his team are saying anything other than we'll see you there, and it appears that they are, it's a convenient but expected backtrack from Team Trump.

Speaker 2 Vice President Harris will be there on September 10th. We'll see if Trump shows.

Speaker 2 You'll know if Trump is planning to show, because a few hours before the debate, the Secret Service comes into his hotel and checks most of the places that an assassin could hide, as long as they're not up a ladder or down a spooky hallway or anything.

Speaker 2 Actor Jeff Bridges stopped by the White Dudes for Harris Zoom Monday, saying, I'm white, I'm the dude, and I'm for Harris. Incredible, the non-horse star of Sea Biscuit.

Speaker 2 The Zoom call had over 140,000 attendees signed up and raised over $2.5 million. And that sounds impressive until you found out that they raised $5 million to bring David Crosby back to life.

Speaker 2 It was white dudes.

Speaker 2 Because it was white dudes. A week in, Kamala Harris's campaign is still taking shape, but one important talking point has emerged amongst her allies.
Republicans are fucking weird.

Speaker 2 I love this direction. There's one thing this country hates, it's weird shit.

Speaker 2 We like Taylor Swift and generic sports bars and wooden signs in the kitchen that say eat and mid-century modern Pinterest boards and weddings that look like all the other weddings.

Speaker 2 And one day we'll break out of that. But for now, Republicans are fucking weird.
I also, people have been making this point online. There's also good, weird, and bad, weird.

Speaker 3 You know? We just need more words for weird.

Speaker 6 Traditionally, weird is stigmatized, and we're stigmatizing the actual horrible people because there is a weirdness that we do need access to, especially at our side.

Speaker 6 We got some weird people with good ideas.

Speaker 2 I think there's

Speaker 2 weird sub-genre creepy. There's weird sub-genre kooky.
There's weird sub-genre funky.

Speaker 3 And I think they've used the word creepy, right?

Speaker 2 We're talking creepy.

Speaker 3 I think. When the Republicans were smart, they would try to muddy this, and they would go with keep America weird, but they're not, so we don't have to worry about that.

Speaker 6 That's a good point. If they were to suddenly take it from us, then we'd have to pivot.

Speaker 3 Cut that. Don't give them ideas.

Speaker 2 I was watching the Olympics last night and just

Speaker 2 being in bed watching the American gymnastics team competing while just scrolling through conservatives trying to logic their way out of being weird. I've never been more patriotic in my whole life.

Speaker 2 It was unbelievable. Well, actually,

Speaker 2 being called weird is feminine. And

Speaker 2 you're the weird ones. If you believe you're the ones going on RuPaul's drag race, like, okay, yep, that's it

Speaker 3 talk yourselves out of it what sounds like some shit a weird guy was a yeah

Speaker 3 absolutely it's like

Speaker 2 unbelievable as prospective VP candidate and Minnesota governor Tim Walz put it at a labor rally on Saturday these guys are just weird that's who they are so it ain't it isn't much else don't give them the power weird that's an absurd accusation said rudy giuliani waking up next to a dead stoat on a trampoline in an unfamiliar neighborhood hey don't go anywhere there's more of love it or leave it coming up

Speaker 4 cash flow crunch OnDeck's small business line of credit gives your business immediate access to funds up to $200,000 right when you need it.

Speaker 4 Cover seasonal dips, manage payroll, restock inventory, or tackle unexpected expenses without missing a beat.

Speaker 4 With flexible draws, transparent pricing, and control over repayment, get funded quickly and confidently. Apply today at on deck.com.
Funds could be available as soon as tomorrow.

Speaker 4 Depending on certain loan attributes, your business loan may be issued by ONDAC or Celtic Bank. ONDAC does not lend in North Dakota.
All loans and amounts subject to lender approval. A BetterHelp ad.

Speaker 14 This November, BetterHelp is encouraging people to reach out, grab lunch with an old friend, call your parents, or even find support in therapy.

Speaker 14 BetterHelp makes it easy with its therapist match commitment and over 12 years of online therapy experience, matching members with qualified professionals.

Speaker 14 And just like that lunch with an old friend, once you do reach out, you'll wonder, why didn't I do this sooner? Start now at betterhelp.com for 10% off your first month.

Speaker 13 The 2026 Chevy Equinox is more than an SUV.

Speaker 4 It's your Sunday tailgate and your parking lot snack bar.

Speaker 13 Your lucky jersey, your chairs, and your big cooler fit perfectly in your even bigger cargo space.

Speaker 13 And when it's go time, your 11.3-inch diagonal touchscreen's got the playbook, the playlist, and the tech to stay a step ahead. It's more than an SUV, it's your Equinox.

Speaker 13 Chevrolet, together let's drive.

Speaker 2 On Monday, the Washington Post published an op-ed from President Biden in which he unveiled his sweeping proposal to reform the Supreme Court, calling for term limits and a binding code of ethics to restore trust and accountability.

Speaker 2 Clarence Thomas read it after talking at Fuerte Ventura, and boy, is he pissed! And excited to snorkel, but pissed.

Speaker 2 Biden's plan involves a constitutional amendment called the No One is Above the Law amendment, establishing that there is no immunity for criminal acts committed by a president while in office.

Speaker 2 Wrote the president, we are a nation of laws, not of kings or dictators. Boy, do we love making kings, don't we? Used to be you could look back at the Habsburgs and say, no dice.

Speaker 2 Now a dead ringer for Charles II is selling Samuel Alito on an app that electrocutes your genitals when you see the pommel horse guy on the men's drumnastics team.

Speaker 3 They are very weird. They're weird.
They're weird.

Speaker 6 Did you see the pommel horse guy?

Speaker 2 I did see the pommel horse guy, and that guy's got it. Fantastic.

Speaker 2 What a fantastic, like just sort of fortuitous, like he's just napping for hours, and then someone taps him on the shoulder, and he's like, time to pommel horse.

Speaker 3 He's doing his visualizations. It's awesome.
Awesome.

Speaker 2 You don't think he was napping?

Speaker 3 No, he's literally doing his visualizations.

Speaker 2 Maybe a little napping. It could be both.
No, I think he's not. No napping at all? None.
Hours?

Speaker 3 I think he's really getting into the zone.

Speaker 2 It's pain off. I'm sure he is.
I'm sure he is. I thought it was cool.

Speaker 2 Biden's plan also involves term limits and establishes that one president cannot radically alter the makeup of the court.

Speaker 2 Instead, a president can appoint a justice every two years, and each justice would serve a term of 18 years 18 years and they're gone i like the sound of that said matt gates concluded biden in america no one is above the law in america the people rule well not everyone there are people in america who sincerely use the word hubby and those people don't rule but everybody else

Speaker 2 kendra have you ever used the term hubby i sure have not yeah i was gonna say it doesn't feel right have you no hubby hubby no i think i've turned the corner on it i could see it not for me but for others i feel like a lot of a lot of words like that the first use, it's like the fist bump.

Speaker 2 It starts out ironically, and then over time, it simply becomes part of your personality.

Speaker 6 So I've heard multiple people use the term uncomfy as uncomfortable, and I think we got to stop that right now.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I don't like that. It's sort of like the Australian, the instinct to cutesify everything, like brecky.
I find that

Speaker 2 uncomfortable. Yeah, I don't like that either.
I don't like that either. And it's purely aesthetics.
There's nothing actually wrong with it. No.

Speaker 2 I mean, there feels like there is.

Speaker 3 It also does. It's sexy.
Well, for

Speaker 2 there is something about kiddos.

Speaker 2 This all stems from kiddo discomfort.

Speaker 3 Actually I hate kiddos.

Speaker 2 Right. And it and it does seem like there is more to it.
There is something.

Speaker 6 Is it related to doggos?

Speaker 2 Yes, kiddos, doggos. And

Speaker 2 it does, I think our like discomfort with it

Speaker 2 is more than aesthetic. There is something about

Speaker 3 RuPaul says kiddo a lot. That's where I've been hearing it.

Speaker 2 Well, so I don't, I think that like a kind of like, like, I don't know, an old school Hollywood film executive saying kiddo. That's fine.
We love. Yeah.

Speaker 2 But it's like referring to your kids as kiddos and doggos. Do you think it's infantilizing?

Speaker 6 I think it's Disney adult adjacent. There's something to it where it's like, you're a lot of enjoy it, but to make it part of your personality seems a bit much.
A bit much.

Speaker 2 Right. It's a kind of like performance of

Speaker 2 an affectation that implies

Speaker 2 of youth.

Speaker 2 But it's like there's a guileless youth. It's guileless, but also like a kind of

Speaker 2 utopia quality to it. Like

Speaker 2 this is a TV version of being people.

Speaker 3 I think we talked about this at one point, too, that it's not funny, but it's like a stand-in for being funny. Like it's sort of joke shapes.
Yeah. And this is from the internet.

Speaker 6 Like, I feel like it's like you could sort of, like, that's of a millennial internet. So imagine if you're Gen Z, you also meet people who you're like, well, that's just from TikTok.

Speaker 6 You don't have to like talk like that in real life.

Speaker 2 Meanwhile, after Biden proposed the Constitutional Amendment and Supreme Court reforms, House Speaker Mike Johnson called Biden's plan dead on arrival.

Speaker 2 Coincidentally, that's the title of the Project 2025 chapter covering what to declare pregnant women with a fever waiting in hospital parking lots. That was a tough one.

Speaker 2 Biden was told by a reporter that Johnson called his plan dead on arrival on a noisy tarmac. Let's read the official White House briefing transcript of the moment because it was so hard to hear.

Speaker 2 So the reporter screams, Speaker Johnson said it's dead on arrival. Biden replies, I think that's what he is.
Then the reporter says, that he is. Then Biden says that he is dead on arrival.

Speaker 2 He later walked it back saying that the Speaker of the House is dead on arrival.

Speaker 2 He later walked back saying that the Speaker of the House is dead on arrival, saying some version of his ideas are dead on arrival.

Speaker 2 Because obviously that was, I think, too intense.

Speaker 2 But it wasn't a big deal because everyone basically gets that Biden being president now is like a straight A kid after the APs, but before graduation.

Speaker 2 Even the teachers are glad they're finally experimenting with being a bad boy. Ooh, you cut class.

Speaker 3 You said the Speaker of the House is dead. Cool, go for it.

Speaker 2 Have a good time. You've been working so hard.
You've earned it.

Speaker 2 The Paris Olympics, which we've already been discussing because we're patriots, began on Friday with an opening ceremony featuring heavy metal, shooting flames, and a chorus of decapitated Marie Antoinettes.

Speaker 6 I say ya, I say ya, I say ya. Les aristocrats or et para!

Speaker 3 Are they French-American or they're just from L.A.?

Speaker 6 I think just from L.A.

Speaker 3 Oh, Fulker. A realtor that I followed helped one of them get into a house.

Speaker 2 My favorite part of the opening ceremonies is when the rat from Ratatouille blew up the Eiffel Tower.

Speaker 3 The big move. It was awesome.

Speaker 2 Religious conservatives went into a tizzy over what many assumed was a take on Leonardo da Vinci's The Last Supper, featuring queer people, drag queens, and a half-nude man painted blue.

Speaker 2 In Paris, of course, they just call this a dinner. However, the ceremony's creative director clarified that it was not the Last Supper, but rather a Greek bacchanalia, a Kinsey III, in other words.

Speaker 2 It's also like amazing that

Speaker 2 American conservatives saw this, decided to be angry angry because it reminded them of an Italian painting of

Speaker 2 a famous moment in the Bible, which is itself in part inspired by other pagan rituals and iconography.

Speaker 6 And also, this is maybe the pedantic point where it's like, well, the whole point of Jesus is that he hung out with tax collectors and sex workers.

Speaker 6 Like, this is of a piece of what Jesus actually was into.

Speaker 6 They just don't want to admit that part.

Speaker 2 It's just, it's just so funny to look at this naked blue man with a beard and grapes on his head and say, like, in some way, I believe this is anti-Christian. I can't put my finger on it.

Speaker 3 So I think part of this, and I'm not excusing this in any way, this is all very, the controversy is all very stupid. I think part of what happened is that the NBC feed did not get the blue man.

Speaker 3 Well, like, we got, oh man, we only got the sort of tablescape, the tablescape behind the blue man, whereas the world feed, again,

Speaker 3 we cannot rely on NBC.

Speaker 2 I will not say that.

Speaker 3 I will fucking

Speaker 2 listen. We can tolerate dissent, I'd love it or leave it, but we will not have the national broadcasting company insulted during this recording.

Speaker 3 I get that Hoda and Savannah got a feed on the youth, but we,

Speaker 2 if they don't do a great job,

Speaker 3 it does provide a lot of context. Yeah, it feels like a big misstep to not have the blue man.

Speaker 3 And that was like part of my problem. They were showing this part and then the fashion show that followed, but they couldn't decide what they wanted to focus on.

Speaker 3 So we were missing a lot of the context of what this was

Speaker 3 and going back to the boats.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I would say this. Inside of what you just described is a problem, and it is not NBC's problem.
It is France's fucking problem.

Speaker 2 I don't know whether to go back to the giant blue man at the hieronymous

Speaker 2 Bosch fucking Bacchanalia or the fashion show or the boats full of wet athletes going down the polluted Seine. This is a France problem, not an NBC problem.

Speaker 3 No, I agree. We should have stayed here, but NBC refused to stay here.

Speaker 3 And they weren't even showing boats. That's their proof.

Speaker 2 Because who, yeah, because you don't think this plays in Middle America?

Speaker 6 Well, I will say that's the issue. It's like, don't worry, it's not the Last Supper.
It's just sort of a

Speaker 3 sex party from ancient Greece.

Speaker 3 Wait, we didn't even touch on the threesome. Remember the part in the opening ceremony where the three people like

Speaker 3 them.

Speaker 6 I mean, it's what we know about France. She's Greece, Minaj Trump.

Speaker 3 Menaja Tra, they fucking named the thing.

Speaker 6 What are we not going to have at least one? Come on.

Speaker 3 Also, the idea that the glass up or the painting is some sort of sacred religious image. Yes.
Very funny.

Speaker 2 That's also very funny.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 2 Like, like how I do think that a lot of people assume that what happens in Dante's Inferno is like in the Bible.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Over at the Olympic Village, the Paris officials relented on their air conditioning ban, allowing athletes to bring their own AC, which American athletes did in droves how many more times are we gonna have to fly over to to liberate this fucking country no AC I did the story was so funny because they're like what you can have 79 degrees is not too hot too hot yeah it's too fucking hot

Speaker 6 we didn't storm the beaches to fucking steam ourselves before we get on our do our events i don't i don't know if i like patriot love it this is i've never known you i didn't know the olympics would bring out this part of you

Speaker 3 it is too hot 79

Speaker 3 79. It is too hot.
It's all those indoors. And they all should have indoors.

Speaker 6 It shouldn't just be us. Everyone should have it.

Speaker 3 But it also becomes such a disparity because you have teams like the NBA team and the WNBA teams, they don't stay in the Olympic Village. They go get a hotel because

Speaker 3 this and because they know that the beds are going to be uncomfortable for someone who is 26. But if you're, say, the South Sudan team, right, you're not going to do that.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 2 And that doesn't seem fair. Yeah.

Speaker 3 It isn't fair.

Speaker 2 Tell it to these medals around our necks.

Speaker 3 Oh, boy.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Oh, I'm sorry. You want to talk about fairness at America? We don't even have fairness.
We don't have fairness in America.

Speaker 2 We're not going to have fairness at America.

Speaker 3 As Beyonce said, our complicated nation.

Speaker 2 By the way, what a choice. What a word choice in that video.

Speaker 3 And the way she enunciated it was beautiful. It was really...

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 there was

Speaker 2 an ad. Beyonce does an ad with the gymnastics team and and some of the other athletes

Speaker 2 and refers to America as this big, beautiful, complicated, really lands on complicated nation. And it was interesting.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 That album is going to have legs.

Speaker 2 There is also, okay, so there was also a reported food shortage in the Olympic Village with foods like eggs and grilled meats being rationed between the game's 15,000 athletes, said French organizers.

Speaker 2 What does he problem? Don't bring cigarettes.

Speaker 2 That's my French accent.

Speaker 3 It was pretty good.

Speaker 2 You're welcome, everybody.

Speaker 2 Speaking of rationed meats, Grindr disabled the geolocation-based explorer function of its app in the Olympic Village, which it also did during the Beijing Olympics. Imagine it.

Speaker 2 You spend your whole life training to get to the Olympics and for nothing.

Speaker 2 Said Grindr, if an athlete is not out or comes from a country where being LGBTQ is dangerous or illegal, using Grindr can put them at risk of being outed by curious individuals who may try to identify and expose them on the app.

Speaker 2 A risk worth taking, said a happily married rower from Utah, seeing the French diving team as his eyeballs fell out of his head.

Speaker 6 Do you remember that happened in Rio? That reporter went and like basically went on Grindr and was sort of writing about.

Speaker 6 I don't believe I identified anyone by name, but it's like, yeah, you have to do this because people are insane.

Speaker 3 You know what the solution is? Don't ban Grindr, make it mandatory that everyone in the village is on Grindr. And then if you're not active on it, fine.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I am. Just get everyone on it.

Speaker 2 We got to IM Spartacus this thing.

Speaker 6 And then also then it becomes a queer app, then everyone's on it. And isn't that better? That's my vision for the future.

Speaker 2 There is something like,

Speaker 2 man, just that, like, yeah, we, if you are on here,

Speaker 2 because it only takes one person, and once it's done, it can't be undone, you can't, we can't let you have this experience because we can't trust that there isn't one random person in the vicinity of you right now that won't be a fucking massive, massive, selfish, narcissistic asshole.

Speaker 6 And I believe, and I haven't used Grindr, so tell me if I'm wrong, but I believe that because of the way it geolocates, like, you don't have to be there to look in the Olympic village.

Speaker 6 Like, you could actually go and like look at different areas of the world.

Speaker 2 That seems wrong.

Speaker 6 But they shut it off. That's why they shut it off because they're like, it's not worth it.
And if, again, leave me a comment if I'm wrong about Grindr.

Speaker 2 Flava Flava is on the ground as the official hype man for the U.S. women's water polar team.
After making a donation to the team and signing a five-year sponsorship deal, here he is with Dr.

Speaker 2 Jill Biden.

Speaker 2 Jill's on the top of the hill. No notes.
The rapper reportedly got involved after U.S.

Speaker 2 Captain Maggie Steffens took to Instagram to ask for financial help, explaining that she and her fellow athletes have to work two or three jobs to survive, despite the team winning three consecutive goals.

Speaker 2 Absurd. Water polar players should not have multiple jobs.
Have you seen water polo? How long do you think you could play water polo without drowning?

Speaker 2 I give myself three minutes and that's if I'm well outside the action. That's just treading water.

Speaker 3 He looks so hard. It's insane.

Speaker 2 They just tread water.

Speaker 3 And then they're swooping back and forth. It's insane.
The thing that impresses me the most is the way that they catch the balls and then are able to release them.

Speaker 3 Because at least in football, when you're catching, your glove is almost like Velcro, whereas with this, it's just a wet ball. And you're standing on the ground in football.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 Yeah, when they're throwing these balls, their waists are out of the water and they're just jumping from water.

Speaker 2 Wrote Flav in a reply, as a girl, dad, and supporter of all women's sports, I'm a personally sponsor you, my girl. Whatever you need, I'm a sponsor of the whole team.

Speaker 2 My manager is in touch with your agents, and I'm going to use my relationships and resources to help y'all even more. That's the beauty of America.

Speaker 2 Do we have a modern social welfare state up to the task of keeping everyone safe and healthy in a dynamic global economy? No.

Speaker 2 But once in a while, a wealthy celebrity will come down like a benevolent alien to solve all your problems. So fingers crossed.

Speaker 2 Meanwhile, the coach of the Canadian women's soccer team got busted for using a drone to spy on their opponents during training and gather information about their play. Oh, I'm a big cheater, eh?

Speaker 2 said the coach in a comment to Beaver and Snow magazine. On Monday, the U.S.
That was just for me. That one.

Speaker 2 On Monday, the U.S.

Speaker 2 men's gymnastics team clinched an Olympic medal for the first time in 16 years after a man who was brought onto the team exclusively for the pommel horse event absolutely crushed it on pommel horse it's good to have a specialty to be absolutely irreplaceable at something

Speaker 2 oh you could're very late today we almost had david replace you like this stephen stephen niordisic have you heard it said no i have not heard steven nodorosic nedor nedorosic nailed it no each one is right your each time you say it is it's more correct spent most of the competition sleeping quietly or, as Kendrick noted, visualizing.

Speaker 2 That's what I'm also doing with my eyes are closed. Awaiting his moment on the pommel horse.
You have a photo of him visualizing. These people are really gifted with superhuman talents.

Speaker 2 I can't even fall asleep in my own bed.

Speaker 3 This one makes him one of the greats.

Speaker 2 One of the greats. When pommel horse time arrived, Neordosik, Nedorosic.

Speaker 3 Nedorosic. That feels like

Speaker 3 what? Nedorosic?

Speaker 2 Nedorosic. That's totally what it is.

Speaker 3 And here's the thing. He's from Wooster.
He could be saying it any kind of way. Oh, that's true.

Speaker 2 He's pronounced Nick.

Speaker 2 Woke up, whipped off his glasses, and did this.

Speaker 2 He did take a skill out.

Speaker 3 You'll lose a few tents for that. It's a home run.

Speaker 3 Go, go! So, you think you could do that?

Speaker 2 That's what I can do. Yeah, no, I think I do it.
I can't wait to see it.

Speaker 3 LA 2022. That's our palm of horse budget this company.

Speaker 2 And everyone's freaking out.

Speaker 3 It's astounding.

Speaker 2 I think it looks easy.

Speaker 2 No?

Speaker 3 We're gonna do one handstand right now. After.
Do one push-up right now.

Speaker 3 That easy. I want to see the handstand.

Speaker 6 Well, then it's a hop screen and jump. We have four years.

Speaker 3 I want to see a handstand into a one-handed dismount. Ooh, I'd love to see that.
Please. All right.

Speaker 2 After the record.

Speaker 2 We'll just do it right out of range of the cameras and microphones. Great.
I, too, want to be good at something so specific and difficult, most people would never even try it.

Speaker 2 Unfortunately, I chose podcasting.

Speaker 3 And here we are.

Speaker 2 Is that it? Is that the last joke?

Speaker 2 All right, before we go, we have another exciting Vote Save America update.

Speaker 2 We've now had over 27,000 people sign up for Vote Save America's 2024 Volunteer Program, Organizer Else, including 10,000 since Harris's presidential announcement.

Speaker 2 And those folks have already reached over 1 million voters. This is a historic moment in U.S.
politics.

Speaker 2 We have less than 100 days now, all right, to sway this election, but we need your help to have a fighting chance in November.

Speaker 2 As Bradley Whitford said on the white dudes for Kamala Call yesterday, you can sign up at votesaveamerica.com. You go to votesaveamerica.com slash 2024 and you click sign up to get started.

Speaker 2 We really need everybody now in the home stretch.

Speaker 2 Basically, when you sign up, you will be pointed to the most effective way you can make a difference either with your dollars or your time between now and election day.

Speaker 2 This message has been paid for by Vote Save America.

Speaker 2 You can learn more at votesaveamerica.com and this ad has not been authorized by any candidate or candidates committee, but it has been authorized by me to say sign up at votesaveamerica.com/slash 2024.

Speaker 2 Please, we need more of you to do it. Not enough of you have done it.

Speaker 2 Listen, I hope everyone else enjoys the Olympics and that their blood also runs red, white, and blue until it's over and hopefully beyond, frankly, at this time.

Speaker 3 Frankly.

Speaker 2 And frankly, I hope beyond. And we've got a great show this Saturday.
We're going to have Ron Perlman, Wayne Brady, some other great guests.

Speaker 2 And so we'll see you on Saturday.

Speaker 2 Love It or Leave It is a crooked media production. It is written and produced by me, John Lovett, and Lee Eisenberg.
Kendra James is our executive producer.

Speaker 2 Chris Lord is our producer, and Kennedy Hill is our associate producer. Hallie Kiefer is our head writer.

Speaker 2 Sarah Lazarus and Jocelyn Kaufman, Peter Miller, Alan Pierre, Will Miles, and Mohanad El Shiki are our writers. Evan Sutton is our editor.
Kyle Seglund and Charlotte Landis provide audio support.

Speaker 2 Stephen Cologne is our audio engineer. And Milo Kim is our videographer.
Our theme song is written and performed by SureSure.

Speaker 2 Thanks to our designer Bernardo Serna for creating and running all of our visuals, which you can't see because this is a podcast, and to our digital producers, David Tolles, Claudia Shang, Mia Kelman, and Matt DeGroote for filming and editing video each week so you can.

Speaker 2 Just love it or leave it.

Speaker 15 Being an American right now is a wild ride. The headlines come fast, but what do they actually mean for people's lives?

Speaker 15 I'm Alex Wagner, and on my new crooked media podcast, Runaway Country, I'm talking to people across the nation to uncover how political chaos is shaping their everyday realities.

Speaker 15 Join me and some of the smartest thinkers in politics to ask how we take back the reins of a runaway nation.

Speaker 15 Listen to Runaway Country with Alex Wagner every Thursday, wherever you get our podcasts or watch full episodes on YouTube.