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Speaker 43 Welcome to Love It or Leave It Live from the Elysian Theater.
Speaker 44 We've got a great show for you tonight. John Leguizamo is here
Speaker 46 to dowzzle us with stories from a career as long as I've been alive 29 years.
Speaker 48 Then Aristotle Atari and Anthony Kerrigan join us for a quiz on bad guys and worse news.
Speaker 51 And at the end, we all take off our hats, put our hands over our hearts, and declare our independence from some stuff.
Speaker 46 But first, let's get into it.
Speaker 53 What a week.
Speaker 1 On Monday, President Trump announced a ceasefire agreement between Iran and Israel, which Iran initially denied, but that's Iran for you.
Speaker 55 Always playing hard to get to stop bombing Israel.
Speaker 56 Trump expressed.
Speaker 57 I don't know, you're right, and it still works.
Speaker 4 Trump,
Speaker 1 your response was correct.
Speaker 20 Trump expressed his frustration with both countries on Tuesday morning.
Speaker 60 They violated it, but Israel violated it too.
Speaker 60 Israel, as soon as we made the deal, they came out and they dropped a load of bombs, the likes of which I've never seen before. The biggest load that we've seen.
Speaker 61 I'm not happy with this year.
Speaker 3 Israel was straight shooting ropes with this one.
Speaker 63 Happy pride, everybody. All right.
Speaker 63 The president continued.
Speaker 60 We basically have two countries that have been fighting so long and so hard that they don't know what the fuck they're doing. Do you understand that?
Speaker 65 Iran and Israel, just kiss already.
Speaker 11 That was a good moment for him.
Speaker 67 We could just face it.
Speaker 50 That was just like, that was that.
Speaker 11 If you like him, I get why that was cool.
Speaker 69 Deal with it.
Speaker 70 Deal with it.
Speaker 55 And then imagine Joe Biden dealing with this situation.
Speaker 34 Absolute fucking nonsense coming out of his mouth.
Speaker 71 It's worth thinking about.
Speaker 1 And then Trump's claim that Iran's nuclear facilities had been obliterated was contradicted by a preliminary classified U.S.
Speaker 55 report, which found that the American strikes had sealed off the entrances to two of the nuclear sites, but hadn't actually destroyed the underground buildings, only setting back the program by a few months.
Speaker 22 As quiet fell over the laboratory, Armand and Reza jumped to their feet and embraced.
Speaker 78 We're alive, Armand shouted, the hug lasting a moment too long, Reza's hand brushing his fellow nuclear scientist's neck as they withdrew.
Speaker 34 Soon the men realized.
Speaker 81 They'd be trapped down here, alone, for months.
Speaker 7 The facility had supplies and generators.
Speaker 82 They'd be okay until the entrance could be cleared, but the unspoken part, always unspoken, now unbearable.
Speaker 55 Did Armand feel it too?
Speaker 47 They shared so much, the same ambivalence, the same terror.
Speaker 82 They'd been down here spinning vials, slowly enriching uranium-235 to a concentration of 60%, a wink away from bomb-grade nuclear fuel.
Speaker 26 But they'd also allowed another illicit fuel to enrich their hearts, a place.
Speaker 72 A place no inspectors could ever reach.
Speaker 7 What about their wives? What about freedom from this place, this life trapped under a rock, trot between Mossad and Ayatollah, trapped between the light of science and the darkness of ambition?
Speaker 7 Or perhaps at long last, here in the rubble of the Shahid Ali Mohammadi nuclear facility at Fordau, were Arman and Reza finally free.
Speaker 50 The U.S.
Speaker 7 report also said that Iran had moved its stockpile of enriched uranium before the strikes.
Speaker 16 Israel basically goaded Trump into a high-stakes game of three-card monty, and we're the dumb tourists stuck trying to find the lady.
Speaker 20 No, honey, I'm really fucking close to finding the enriched uranium.
Speaker 4 I'm $2 billion in on these targeted strikes, but I'm this close to winning it all back.
Speaker 48 And that's the one that didn't work.
Speaker 46 After all of that, everybody told me the Armand Reza story would fall like a fucking piece of shit, and it worked.
Speaker 50 I said, no, you had my back, but a bunch of people did it.
Speaker 44 A bunch of people did it.
Speaker 51 I want you all to know something.
Speaker 63 Tomorrow we're recording a video, a video of biggest bombs from Love It or Leave It.
Speaker 45 and bill our producer supposed to have my back is like are you doing this so we have more material for tomorrow
Speaker 48 and then what hallie said helpfully well it's your show and it is my show
Speaker 92 and it is my show during a press conference at the nato summit on wednesday trump denied the intelligence report and continued to claim that the u.s strikes had destroyed iran's nuclear program is there any indication from u.s intelligence that iran was able to move any material, including the USA?
Speaker 92 No, we just the opposite. We think we hit them so hard and so fast they didn't get to move.
Speaker 65 I guess we'll never know the truth until a few months from now when Iran has a nuclear bomb.
Speaker 1 Also at the NATO summit, former Dutch Prime Minister and NATO Secretary General Mark Ruta called Trump daddy
Speaker 82 for scolding Iran and Israel.
Speaker 92
They're not going to be fighting each other. They've had it.
They've had a big fight like two kids in a schoolyard. You know, they fight like hell.
You can't stop them.
Speaker 92 Let them fight for about two, three minutes. Then it's easier to stop them.
Speaker 95 And then daddy has to sometimes use strong language.
Speaker 92 You have to use strong language. Every once in a while, you have to use a certain word.
Speaker 97 And what word would that be, Donald?
Speaker 98 I'm going to come.
Speaker 99 All right.
Speaker 100 Sorry.
Speaker 98 Happy pride. All right.
Speaker 19 You think a grown man calling Trump daddy can't get any creepier?
Speaker 101 And then you hear it in in a Dutch accent.
Speaker 55 Trump then addressed the daddy remark with the press later.
Speaker 102 Mark Rutter, the NATO chief who is your friend, he called you daddy earlier.
Speaker 102 Do you regard your NATO allies as kind of children?
Speaker 104 No, he likes me. I think he likes me.
Speaker 105 If he doesn't, I'll let you know.
Speaker 104 I'll come back and I'll hit him hard, okay?
Speaker 104 He did. He did it very affectionately.
Speaker 105 Daddy, you're my daddy.
Speaker 15 no please don't hit me hard mark ruches said in response baring his trembling ass
Speaker 20 speaking of trembling asses defense secretary pete hegsef held a press conference on thursday most of which he spent railing against the media for reporting on his own department's initial assessment of u.s strikes
Speaker 105 because
Speaker 105 you And I mean specifically you, the press, specifically you, the press corps, because you cheer against Trump so hard, it's like in your DNA and in your blood to cheer against Trump, because you want him not to be successful so bad,
Speaker 105 you have to cheer against the efficacy of these strikes.
Speaker 20 Does Pete think that being a journalist is innate?
Speaker 86 It's nurture, not nature, babe.
Speaker 20 People aren't born with reporter genes.
Speaker 82 They become reporters when no one invites them to parties in high school.
Speaker 84 Now, I guess it could be epigenetic, but Pete doesn't know what that is.
Speaker 108 I don't know what that is.
Speaker 7 Hagseth continued to attack the press rather than answer their questions.
Speaker 109 Are you certain none of that highly enriched uranium was moved?
Speaker 61 Of course we're watching every single aspect, but Jennifer, you've been about the worst.
Speaker 105 The one who misrepresents the most intentionally. I don't know.
Speaker 105 What the President says.
Speaker 109 the refueling, the entire mission with great accuracy. So I take issue with that.
Speaker 26 Now, these two used to work together at Fox, so it does feel personal.
Speaker 73 Pete's acting like she stole his lunch out of the break room fridge and drank it all.
Speaker 4 On Tuesday, Trump told congressional Republicans not to leave D.C.
Speaker 64 for the July 4th holiday before passing his big beautiful bill.
Speaker 35 It's okay.
Speaker 7 I didn't have any plans anyway, said Mike Johnson, placing the box of hooks and leather straps labeled old photos back on the top shelf of his closet in front of the gun.
Speaker 1 The Senate spent all week rushing to finish the bill, adding even steeper cuts than the House version, including slashing food assistance programs, restricting eligibility for Medicaid, and cutting a tax that funds rural hospitals.
Speaker 76 You know, like when you're putting the finishing touches on a cake by injecting it with bleach.
Speaker 72 Mitch McConnell offered words of assurance to skittish senators afraid of the bill's unpopular health care cut, saying, and this is a quote, I know a lot of us are hearing from people back home about Medicaid, but they'll get over it.
Speaker 1 Time heals all wounds, said McConnell, even though he is personally covered with wounds that will not heal.
Speaker 29 In one positive development, the Senate parliamentarians struck a provision that would have opened up more than 250 million acres of federal land for sale, which sucks because I was excited about that Panda Express at the top of Mount Rainier.
Speaker 15 But speaking of feeling sick, sick, in a 6-3 decision on Thursday, the Supreme Court conservative majority ruled that states can cut off Medicaid funding to Planned Parenthood, even for non-abortion health care, like physicals, STD treatments, vaccines, gynecological exams, and cancer screenings, finally eradicating the number one cause of abortions: women being alive.
Speaker 20 We take the news as it comes.
Speaker 16 I don't like it either.
Speaker 20 But when they go low, we go socialism in a stunning victory.
Speaker 51 Zoron Mondani won New York's Democratic mayoral primary over Andrew Cuomo, or what Fox,
Speaker 7 or what Fox News is calling the 624 attacks.
Speaker 72 We now go live to Cuomo's response.
Speaker 72 After the first round of votes was counted, Cuomo was reportedly so shocked, he almost dropped the tits he was groping.
Speaker 55 After conceding, Cuomo was returned to the maximum security wing of Arkham Asylum.
Speaker 20 Now, some say Momdani's victory is a threat to the Democratic Party as if Chuck Shu were somehow a real Democrat and Mom Dani pulled a fast one.
Speaker 7 You can find versions of this take from Momdani's critics and his defenders, but it misses the point.
Speaker 20 The Democratic Party belongs to the people in it, and the people want a hot guy with a sense of humor who likes trans people and knows what the slice of pizza should cost.
Speaker 24 Fine, I'll run for mayor.
Speaker 85 Brad Lander, the city's controller who had cross-endorsed Momdani, spoke eloquently on Cuomo's loss.
Speaker 61 Andrew Cuomo is in the past. He is not the present or future of New York City.
Speaker 61 Good fucking riddance.
Speaker 84 I love how Lander said, New York City.
Speaker 57 a socialist wins in New York and now every politician sounds like Bain.
Speaker 48 And you think that's a joke, but look at how CNBC was crashing out over this result.
Speaker 117 I don't want to go here, but Gotham.
Speaker 118 Have you seen
Speaker 118 what Batman is up against in Gotham and what
Speaker 118 the guy running for mayor is up against? That's what it reminds me of. They're taking Wall Streeters and making them walk out onto the ice in the East River
Speaker 118 and then they fall through. I mean, there is a class warfare that's going that
Speaker 120 terrifying stuff. Have you heard about this?
Speaker 113 With Mamdani, there's this pink sludge flowing in the old subway tunnels beneath the city, activated by human emotion, centered around the Metropolitan Museum of Art. It's gaining power as we speak.
Speaker 1 What's happening in New York is insane.
Speaker 55 The MAGA, right, meanwhile, reacted to Mandani's victory about as you'd expect.
Speaker 20 New York City has fallen, wrote Donald Trump Jr., quoting a post that said, I'm old enough to remember when New Yorkers endured 9-11 instead of voting for it.
Speaker 27 Not me, I'm too young to remember 9-11.
Speaker 11 I read about it in books.
Speaker 24 I mean, I saw TikToks about it.
Speaker 11 I'm just receiving word that a second Momdani has won the primary.
Speaker 86 Marjorie Taylor Greene posted a photo of the Statue of Liberty in a burqa with the caption, this hits hard.
Speaker 1 Obviously, Marjorie Taylor Greene's love and concern for New York City is well known.
Speaker 46 Here's what she said about a recent visit.
Speaker 109
I can't comprehend how people live there. It was repulsive.
It smells bad.
Speaker 122 And I just, I think it's a terrible place.
Speaker 111 Now, we here in LA know that she has a point.
Speaker 28 No, stop it.
Speaker 83 Stop it.
Speaker 72 These are people that fucking hate New York.
Speaker 1 They hate New Yorkers.
Speaker 46 They villainize places and people that don't live exactly how they want people to live.
Speaker 75 These are the kinds of people that only love New York immediately after 9-11 and immediately after Jersey Boys.
Speaker 7 Stephen Miller wrote on X, NYC is the clearest warning yet of what happens to a society when it fails to control migration.
Speaker 7 The immigrants grow up to love the city so much, they run for mayor, they generate so much excitement, it stops a disgraced creep from clawing his way back to power, and the food is amazing.
Speaker 63 Don't threaten us with a good time.
Speaker 22 i i've been struggling to articulate this like obviously stephen miller is like such a twerp uh but but he's now based they're all now coming out and basically saying it it's not about undocumented or illegal immigration it's about stopping legal immigration that they that every problem can be drawn not back to undocumented immigration, but their ultimate target, which is just stopping people from coming to this country.
Speaker 34 And a few of them, they're so in a bubble, they're so convinced of something, which is just not true.
Speaker 20 They're convinced that everybody everybody agrees with them, but they're just afraid to say it.
Speaker 11 So now they're feeling more and more comfortable and emboldened to just come out and describe places as the third world.
Speaker 123 They don't want immigrants from what they call the third world.
Speaker 27 They're being more and more, as we see in these posts about Mandani, openly bigoted, openly racist.
Speaker 72 But with Miller,
Speaker 24 there's something revealing about the way they talk about places they don't know or care about.
Speaker 83 The way that he talks about New York.
Speaker 82 Stephen Miller's family and my family came at roughly the same time to America through New York when Jews were escaping pogroms in Eastern Europe.
Speaker 121 They went all the way to Santa Monica, but people come through Ellis Island.
Speaker 24 The New York accent, the accent that a lot of Jews took with them from New York, a lot of Italians took with them, is born of Dutch immigrants, British immigrants, Italian immigrants, Irish immigrants, and a lot of Jewish immigrants.
Speaker 105 And what's
Speaker 15 What's interesting about Miller, right, is his family ends up in California.
Speaker 35 And so I describe Stephen Miller as a C-plus Santa Monica fascist. Why? Because he has that California accent with just a twinge of that thing you can't escape, which is that Jewish accent.
Speaker 46 But that means his accent is a combination of two things.
Speaker 73 One, the melting pot of New York City, and the other, the California accent, which is itself born of the diversity of Southern California.
Speaker 16 So even as he spits this venom to saying that something has changed and gone wrong in this country, he speaks like a fucking immigrant because we all do.
Speaker 73 He says in this post that New York was once a symbol of American dominance, which is his only way of seeing the world.
Speaker 46 Like, that's how you compliment a place by its quote-unquote dominance, right?
Speaker 20 Like, he can't appreciate, like, these are people going around declaring that they're going to make America better, they're going to fix what's broken in America.
Speaker 16 They don't know, like, care about what makes America good at all.
Speaker 48 They don't understand it. They have no love for any place.
Speaker 68 They have no pride in any place.
Speaker 46 All they have is this idea of dominance.
Speaker 82 And I actually, it's very, very scary and it's very dangerous, but it's also a kind of weakness.
Speaker 52 And
Speaker 12 I was walking around in LA
Speaker 67 and while these immigration crackdowns, these terrible crackdowns, which have been scaring people, the people that make LA work and communities all across LA, the jackaranda trees were turning and they were all this beautiful shade of purple and they're all over Los Angeles.
Speaker 87 And it just struck me that I imagine Stephen Miller, who claims to be from here while hating all of us and hating Los Angeles.
Speaker 17 I wonder if he ever noticed what makes LA so beautiful, right?
Speaker 87 All the people in this wonderful place that so many people came.
Speaker 72 And I assume, no, right?
Speaker 35 I assume that's never been something that he would glance up and marvel at the beauty of this nature and this wonderful place we all get to live.
Speaker 46 And maybe that's a source of strength because for the same reason they can't see that, they assume we all have the same hateful, negative, vicious.
Speaker 19 zero-sum mentality about the world.
Speaker 6 But the good news is that we don't.
Speaker 84 And there was a new poll that came out today from, I think it was a Quinn Ipiac poll, and it found that as they've been blasting the country with this propaganda about the chaos in the cities and the violence in our streets and the criminal aliens that are all around us, slowly but surely support for legalizing undocumented immigrants, giving them status in our country, has slowly but surely been cripping up, not a little, by a lot.
Speaker 82 by like 15 points as his immigration approval has slowly trended down.
Speaker 35 And to me, that's a sign of hope, because as much as they're so hate-filled, and as much as they are so mean-spirited and cruel, and they will exact a lot of pain and cause a lot of misery, they don't understand how other people think or feel because they can't believe that anybody would have more compassion, or love, or joy, or beauty that we do.
Speaker 75 And I think that's how we beat them.
Speaker 35 And I think that you see that in what happened in New York.
Speaker 63 I think you see that in the protests we've had over the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 22 And it gives me hope about what's going to happen in the next couple of months in the midterms and beyond.
Speaker 50 So that was just rambling.
Speaker 39 But
Speaker 48 Trump himself weighed in on Wednesday, writing on True Social, we've had radical lefties before, but this is getting a little ridiculous.
Speaker 28 He looks terrible about Mamdani.
Speaker 46 His voice is grating. He's not very smart.
Speaker 20 And even our great Palestinian senator, Krion Chuck Schumer, is groveling over him.
Speaker 20 What was that, said Schumer, seven bagels falling out of his mouth?
Speaker 35 Let me put this logger down and see what Trump's saying about me.
Speaker 84 Trump also lost all credibility in saying that Mamdani looks terrible.
Speaker 81 Mamdani looks like he's the coolest professor at Handsome University.
Speaker 81 Look at how good looking this guy is, more like 69-11.
Speaker 20 Speaking of slips of the tongue, a Colorado state
Speaker 58 attorney accidentally, this is this, a Colorado attorney accidentally called a judge, honey,
Speaker 93 on a court live stream.
Speaker 67 And I'm sorry to tell you this, this is like, this video is like the ring.
Speaker 24 We're all, I'm going to make, we all are going to watch it in full.
Speaker 126
Separate. Okay, but it wasn't three separate.
Let's go with what happened in the case.
Speaker 127 But honey, or, oh my God, I'm sorry.
Speaker 128 I'm sorry, Geron.
Speaker 106 That, that,
Speaker 122 that, I don't know what to say to that.
Speaker 106 I apologize. Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 129 The question here is what happened.
Speaker 128 I'm sorry, I've just been totally thrown.
Speaker 119 Yeah, I can imagine. I can imagine.
Speaker 126 I'm a little thrown by that also, if I'm being honest.
Speaker 128
I don't know what to say. It's just a.
Okay, well, go ahead.
Speaker 126 You've only got a minute and seven seconds left.
Speaker 7 It says here that he gave himself the death penalty.
Speaker 18 It's tough, but fair.
Speaker 67 I just think it is incredible that arguing with a woman subconsciously raised a honey from the depths.
Speaker 48 A good moment to do a quick ad for my new online course, the John Lovett Masterclass in Faking a Seizure.
Speaker 113 You got to go down and start shaking.
Speaker 130 Only way out. out.
Speaker 24 A New Jersey lifeguard was impaled by a beach umbrella during strong winds on Wednesday.
Speaker 64 She was alert and taken to the hospital to be treated.
Speaker 90 The umbrella went through her shoulder and out through her back, protruding by about a foot.
Speaker 23 And you know what that means?
Speaker 81 Six more weeks of summer.
Speaker 116 They had to use a bandsaw to cut the umbrella's pole to get her in the the ambulance.
Speaker 55 Oh no, my umbrella, said the worst people on the beach.
Speaker 13 The lifeguard, still recovering in the hospital, also told ABC7 that she was bummed when she found out she had to take six weeks off.
Speaker 42 You hear that, Hallie?
Speaker 20 She was impaled.
Speaker 49 Oh, you're tired from writing jokes, need a break?
Speaker 81 It's been months since I stabbed you.
Speaker 48 And finally, singer Leanne Rhimes revealed her fake teeth fell out of her mouth mid-concert on Sunday, forcing her to run off stage to replace them.
Speaker 24 But I think we've all had that nightmare where Leanne rhymes' teeth fall out.
Speaker 55 Anyway, congrats to the witch Brandy Glanville hired.
Speaker 45 Your magic is powerful.
Speaker 87 Much respect.
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Speaker 10 Before our first guest, just let everybody know we're going to have a great episode coming out over the July 4th break with some of the Friends of the Pod community's favorite moments of all time in Love It or Leave It, which ended up being a bunch of, I think, some of like my favorite moments and rants from the show.
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Speaker 124 batteries,
Speaker 11 maybe comes back with maybe a better attitude.
Speaker 35 Can't stand the sight of these people at this point.
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Speaker 83 Helps us build that channel, helps us build this media company, helps us build a way of responding to right-wing misinformation online.
Speaker 68 And I'd appreciate it and with that please welcome to the stage a man with an IMDb page so long I had to sit down and put my head between my knees in the middle of it
Speaker 44 it's the legendary John LaGuizama
Speaker 139 Great monologue
Speaker 140 I appreciate that enjoyed it I like to think you're always back there watching and it inspires me week after week but today here you are finally i'll always be there for you man i'll always keep you i'll always have your back oh that means the world to me
Speaker 100 you sound sarcastic i don't ah it's my fucking voice that happened earlier today
Speaker 141 third time today
Speaker 105 i third time today you you have a little sarcasm so it's something i gotta work on yeah yeah we're not all perfect no
Speaker 142 but it's a good thing are you a new yorker yeah yeah you that's part of
Speaker 64 it it's part of it it's part of it so
Speaker 73 uh you have a new apple tv show called smoke which just came out and you play an arson investigator turned porn director.
Speaker 14 Did you do any kind of research for the role?
Speaker 100 Yes, I'm very method.
Speaker 105 I'm a very method actor, so I watch a lot of porn for it. But just for the angles and the editing,
Speaker 105 not for the content.
Speaker 140 No, no, just to understand the shot, the shot.
Speaker 105 Yes, yes, because I was the porn director.
Speaker 105 I wasn't in front of the camera, I was behind the camera.
Speaker 30 Right. Like, when do you punch in?
Speaker 105 The money shot.
Speaker 5 When is the money shot?
Speaker 111 The money shot, when they pay for the pizza.
Speaker 72 Yep.
Speaker 97 Now, you have,
Speaker 20 we were talking about this.
Speaker 1 You have one of my favorite interview moments of all time, and you're not going to know what it is.
Speaker 144 No, how would I?
Speaker 105 I was just there.
Speaker 145 Yeah.
Speaker 52 So you were doing an interview.
Speaker 87 It was, I think they've gotten you up at like seven in the morning to do one of the Today show or one of these shows.
Speaker 105 Was I grumpy or?
Speaker 130 No, yes.
Speaker 144 No.
Speaker 36 You were.
Speaker 58 You were honest.
Speaker 105 It was you and the Joe. Yo, I was grumpy and bitchy.
Speaker 17 You were promoting one of the Ice Age movies.
Speaker 85 It was a sequel, and you're sitting there with the whole cast, and it's Queen Latifa and Ray Romano.
Speaker 32 And
Speaker 25 the host of the show says, what keeps you guys coming back to do another one of these movies?
Speaker 82 I think like Dennis Leary looked over and kind of smirked and nobody knew what to say.
Speaker 15 And you just kind of leaned forward and you're like, the money.
Speaker 105 The money was incredible.
Speaker 110 Well,
Speaker 105 I'm not going to lie, it was the most money I have ever seen and will ever see in my life because they made a huge mistake.
Speaker 105
They thought that the movie was going to fail, so they didn't do a contract with us to continue. And the thing blew up and was this jogger nut.
It was huge.
Speaker 105 And then they had to renegotiate with me, and I went for it.
Speaker 97 I'm glad you did.
Speaker 105 I got every...
Speaker 105 Yeah. Yeah, you got them.
Speaker 131 Yeah.
Speaker 7 It just was such a funny moment because you had all just admitted that you go into a studio by yourselves, record for a while, and then the movie movie comes out and it's like, oh yeah, on set we became a family.
Speaker 56 Of course it was for the fucking money.
Speaker 105
No, but I love the character. I do love.
I love doing it. Mel Blank was my hero.
Speaker 105 So whenever I do all these animated movies like Encanto and Dora, the Explorer, Dora, and all the stuff that I do, I really love what I do.
Speaker 105 And I try to really create a real character that I believe in.
Speaker 19 We were talking about...
Speaker 105 Nobody cares.
Speaker 90 No, they were moved.
Speaker 17 They're thinking about the money.
Speaker 58 They're thinking like, hey, I'm glad you love playing a little rat or whatever.
Speaker 112 How much?
Speaker 105 We're in a capitalist America, I forget.
Speaker 114 But
Speaker 58 we were really marveling at
Speaker 57 the range of roles you've had over the years.
Speaker 7 And I hadn't realized that, because I think of you as having been a stand-up and then suddenly you're playing Tybalt and Roman Juliet, but you had been doing.
Speaker 7 Shakespeare at the public theater before you were ever.
Speaker 105 Yeah, I mean, I was always an actor who was very funny, or at least I thought I was funny. And I made a living out of it, you know, and I and I was diverse because
Speaker 105 there were no opportunities for Latin men in America, so I had to reinvent myself constantly and become different things that would, you know, garner me a career.
Speaker 25 Yeah, like you do too.
Speaker 105 It wasn't talent, it was just trying to survive.
Speaker 65 No, it's and it's got to be some of the talent.
Speaker 100 You're so characteristic. Okay, I've got to take that sitting here.
Speaker 2 Please.
Speaker 105 I got you. You got me.
Speaker 58 you got me you have you hey, you've had me you've had me so
Speaker 20 You you do too long fuh and
Speaker 146 damn I'm hot
Speaker 140 But that was a like I'd do me that was great
Speaker 124 Why right who wouldn't but like that was a That was like a brave thing for the three of you to do at that time like you guys really and wasn't you it wasn't a joke like you committed to this and it was a really like you it was a
Speaker 105 it was a it was a really like uh interesting and brave movie for three male straight male actors to take on especially for the two of them because nobody really knew who i was yeah you know except for theater people in new york city but the two of them were like you know leading men action leading men and for them to do the roles and to really commit to doing it right and giving it integrity that took a lot of courage yeah
Speaker 114 and it at the time time.
Speaker 100 Just in peace.
Speaker 94 Yeah, Patrick Swayze.
Speaker 32 Patrick Swayze.
Speaker 72 Yeah, you can applaud for Patrick Swayze.
Speaker 115 Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 105
He did a great job. I mean, we didn't get along on the set too much.
No, not too much.
Speaker 142 You can New York actor, you know.
Speaker 105
This is my shot. I was going to take it.
And I was improvising all the time, making up crazy dialogue. I made up so much shit.
And he couldn't take it because I was relentless. I'm a New Yorker.
Speaker 105
I never shut up. And he told me to shut up.
And I said, and I was like, make me.
Speaker 105 And Wesley said, I got you.
Speaker 105 And so we were ready to duke it out, which is stupid because we're in skirts and pumps.
Speaker 105 We were too methodic.
Speaker 105 I think we were menstruating.
Speaker 29 But that was it? Do you ever repair it or was just you never got a lot of it?
Speaker 105
Yeah, no, no, we repaired it. Yeah, yeah.
Well, that's good. Not too much.
Speaker 62 That's good.
Speaker 130 But now, now, yeah, but I'm sorry.
Speaker 105 I repaired it on your show just now.
Speaker 34 No, that's beautiful.
Speaker 113 Now,
Speaker 74 so Tuong Fu, I think, has become a cult classic.
Speaker 72 I have another movie of yours that I believe deserves cult classic consideration.
Speaker 124 What's that?
Speaker 78 It's Super Mario Brothers.
Speaker 105 You know,
Speaker 25 I loved this movie at the time.
Speaker 105
You're young, you're young. Yeah, that's right.
You don't know better.
Speaker 130 No, it's good.
Speaker 140 Have you gone back and watched it?
Speaker 105 No, I can't.
Speaker 142 It's good.
Speaker 142 It's good.
Speaker 105 No, no, I mean, you know,
Speaker 105 I fancy myself an artist, you know, and I did this because
Speaker 105 it was my only opportunity at the time, you know, as a Latin man, you know, it was like, I didn't get that many choices.
Speaker 105
And this was, the directors were really, they had a fight for me because I was a Latin dude and the student didn't want me. And they fought at Annabelle and Annabelle Jankle and Rocky Morton.
And,
Speaker 105 you know,
Speaker 105
it was a tough movie to make, man. We were doing it in a cement factory.
Everybody got white lung from the cement.
Speaker 105
The sound effects told them that, you know, all that steam is going to wreck the audio. So I had to record for a month.
We all had to record all our lines.
Speaker 105 I'd never done it in my life. Like dubbed yourself for the entire movie.
Speaker 20 So you had to go into a studio and watch
Speaker 105 the whole thing and go over it and over it.
Speaker 72 What a cursed movie.
Speaker 84 It's also just sort of like, we found our Mario and Luigi.
Speaker 97 Oh, I assume that given there's wonderful Italian-American actors.
Speaker 66 Yes, yes. It's Bob Hoskins and John Liguizamo.
Speaker 58 Obviously.
Speaker 105 We share no DNA.
Speaker 141 Absolutely no sense whatsoever.
Speaker 105 There's no 23 meat links anywhere.
Speaker 6 Absolutely not.
Speaker 18 Just a kind of a British guy, a Latin guy from New York.
Speaker 1 That's our married guy.
Speaker 105 Yeah, that's our twins.
Speaker 37 Fantastic. Fantastic.
Speaker 57 Well, I think it was great.
Speaker 105
I love it. I love it now.
I mean, now I really appreciate it. And I know it became a cult classic, especially for young folk like yourselves.
Speaker 147 You also.
Speaker 63 I'll defend that movie to death.
Speaker 81 It was fun.
Speaker 1 It's back when movies could be fun.
Speaker 105
It is fun. It's fun.
I appreciate it.
Speaker 34 Speaking of fun.
Speaker 105 What is that? You don't sound like you're having fun.
Speaker 86 You're in multiple scenes that broke my brain that I shouldn't have seen when I saw them.
Speaker 124 One of them is you are the shooter in the film regarding Henry.
Speaker 112 Does anybody remember regarding Henry?
Speaker 46 You were, that is.
Speaker 105
I don't remember it either, and I was in it. You don't remember? You don't know, I remember it.
Of course, I remember it. I was a shooter.
I'm like, oh my God, I'm denigrating my people.
Speaker 105 They made me the only Latin person in the movie, and I'm killing the white guy.
Speaker 145 Yeah.
Speaker 105 Or shooting the white guy.
Speaker 56 Yeah, shoot him. Yeah, he really likes it.
Speaker 130 He lives.
Speaker 97 He lives.
Speaker 140 It's a really tough. I couldn't even shoot well.
Speaker 142 I don't even care what he did.
Speaker 94 You don't have to kill him.
Speaker 143 I killed him twice, and he just wanders.
Speaker 105 He's a bad Latin shooter.
Speaker 20 But it's a chilling scene. I really, like, I wouldn't even show it because it actually is like, it's a very.
Speaker 94 Oh, no, it's terrible. Awesome.
Speaker 148 It's terrible. Yeah.
Speaker 116 But Mike Nichols.
Speaker 105 Yes.
Speaker 105 yes that's why i did it right and then we became friends for life he came to see spicarama he took me out to dinner many times i went to his apartment i saw his picasos that's so cool the uh what's amazing about that scene is so mike nichols he's directing all these different kinds of movies it's a well he's one of the most important directors in american history of course and but he directs that scene and it's chilling and haunting and excellent even though it's not sort of you just see that even in that moment he's an amazing director i wonder what it was like to do that.
Speaker 1 Because you're there for what you're in one very critical scene.
Speaker 34 And it's just like, do you remember being directed by Mike Nichols that day?
Speaker 105
Yeah. I mean, you know, he's very friendly.
He's a sweetheart.
Speaker 105 And he'd seen me in Mamble Mouth. And so he wanted to give me an opportunity.
Speaker 143 So that was my opportunity.
Speaker 105 And, you know, he just said, you know, just be, you know, like you're casual and just turn around and shoot him. Like you're, you're like you're buying something.
Speaker 105
So, yeah, so I did it really casually. And then I shot, you know, Harrison Ford, which felt terrible, even though it wasn't a real gun or anything.
But you feel bad.
Speaker 105 I'm a human being, you know, I'm not a real shooter.
Speaker 19 That's acting, I think.
Speaker 105 Yeah, yeah. Well, but you're still
Speaker 105 an actor, and I'm killing the poor guy. It's terrible.
Speaker 150 Yeah.
Speaker 38 He got him real good.
Speaker 48 Also, you played the Violator and Spawn.
Speaker 36 Let's show a picture of Spawn of the Violator.
Speaker 48 That is some fucking nightmare fuel.
Speaker 145 Oh, wow.
Speaker 105 That was rough. That was like my first makeup test was was eight hours
Speaker 105 and that was back in the day when they glued your face with real glue it wasn't it wasn't like special creams and shit yeah it was bad it's rough that's a scary character but i enjoyed the hell out of it they let me improvise like crazy i said i said the craziest things
Speaker 105 I better get credit for the second movie when they remake it because they're remaking everything I did. I'm so old at remaking everything.
Speaker 96 What are they remaking?
Speaker 105
They remade Super Mario Brothers. Oh, right, of course.
It was a huge hit. Yeah.
Speaker 4 It was cartoon?
Speaker 2 Yeah.
Speaker 38 Yeah.
Speaker 105 And they're remaking this.
Speaker 105
Blumhouse is remaking it. Doesn't do spawn again? Yeah, with Jamie Fox.
That's cool.
Speaker 143 And Spawn, yeah.
Speaker 87 That's a good spawn.
Speaker 130 Yeah.
Speaker 124 They should bring you back.
Speaker 100 Okay.
Speaker 105 Call Jason. Yeah.
Speaker 105 Make it happen.
Speaker 6 I would like to do that. Let's do some.
Speaker 30 Somebody.
Speaker 105 You got that kind of pull. Come on.
Speaker 142 Yeah, yeah. Let me.
Speaker 69 Let me.
Speaker 73 Yeah, no, let me go to my list of podcast connections and see how many steps it takes to get to a movie.
Speaker 149 All right.
Speaker 48 So on July 6th, you have the second season of Legozamo Does America.
Speaker 79 You're traveling across the country, talking to Latino communities.
Speaker 16 You've spoken out about the protests in Los Angeles.
Speaker 121 A lot of people haven't.
Speaker 20 What are you trying to do with this show?
Speaker 11 And then also, why do you think more people, what's that?
Speaker 55 What are you trying to do with the show?
Speaker 105 Well, I'm going across America looking for Latin exceptionalism, Latin innovation, Latin genius,
Speaker 105 looking for Latin celebration, celebrating all the things that we've brought to this country that we get no credit for, that we're never celebrated for, that we're just ignored and erased.
Speaker 105 So that's what I'm trying to undo, you know, especially in this time of great violence to Latin bodies and Latin people in this country. You know, it's a sad time to be a Latin person in this country.
Speaker 105 I talked to a lot of Latin organizers, actors, activists, politicians, and we're all trying to figure out what to do because it's a tough time to see all these people being hurt like that: mothers and children, and fathers and brothers, and people that look just like my family.
Speaker 105 It's tough, but I'm trying to bring some opposite, you know, because
Speaker 105 we have to celebrate the little joys. We have to do the, it's like an antidote to what we're watching on the Gram and on TikTok, you know.
Speaker 105 But I'm glad it's being shown because otherwise, there's no evidence and we need all the witnesses and testimonies that we can keep.
Speaker 25 is there
Speaker 105 thank you
Speaker 16 is there an example from the show and you've also done a
Speaker 105 history show too yeah yeah is there an example from the show that you think kind of is relevant to what's happening right now well yeah I mean when I went to Raleigh which I figured there's no Latin people in Raleigh but there was a ton of Latin people there and they were brought there in the 70s
Speaker 105 You know, like we're brought,
Speaker 105
we've been in this country. The first European language spoken in America was not English, was Spanish.
And we've been here since 1492.
Speaker 2 And
Speaker 105 to see that we're being rounded up again for the fourth time in this country,
Speaker 105
it's incredible to me that it's happening for the fourth time. It happened with the Repatriation Act.
Two million Latinos were
Speaker 105 deported, even though they were all, most of them were American citizens, but they were deported after the Depression. We were blamed for taking jobs, same same as is going on now.
Speaker 105
And then it happened in the Wetback Act in the 1950s. Over a million and a half Latinos were deported.
Half of them were citizens, some of them were undocumented, and then, but they're doing it again.
Speaker 105
So that was in the PBS series. I think we dealt with that a little bit.
But in Raleigh, there was all these immigrants brought in the 70s to work in the factories and in the food processing.
Speaker 105 And they stayed and they created these, they fixed up a lot of communities and rebuilt them as we often do.
Speaker 105 And we go there and we celebrate all these activists who are helping undocumented immigrants and rebuilding all these communities.
Speaker 34 Beautiful. There's, I think,
Speaker 108 you know,
Speaker 26 the nativism we're seeing now.
Speaker 80 So
Speaker 75 when my family was coming into
Speaker 76 this country, it was in a wave of Jewish and Italian immigrants.
Speaker 105 You said late 1800s or early 1900s?
Speaker 32 Early, early 1900s, early 1900s.
Speaker 77 And they were in a crest of immigrants that made New York City like 40% immigrant at the time.
Speaker 22 And it led to a nativist backlash, which led to that number dropping, which was all part of the same sort of conditions that were leading to the Great Depression, which then also led to a whole bunch of nativism against Mexican and Latin immigrants as well.
Speaker 35 It was all connected, that the nativism that was targeting the shifty Jews in New York and how, and that was leading to the same kind of quotas that ultimately meant Jews were excluded from this country during the Holocaust.
Speaker 111 Right, right, right.
Speaker 72 The same set of forces that were causing
Speaker 35 the expulsion of Mexicans to Mexico, even though they were coming into this country to work.
Speaker 130 Right. They were brought in here.
Speaker 51 They were invited part of a program to work.
Speaker 105 Pracera program. We were brought here to work.
Speaker 105 And what's crazy is we were brought here in the 1800s as well. I mean, we've been here anyway, but
Speaker 105 from Mississippi to the Pacific was Mexico until 1830.
Speaker 105 And we were brought here.
Speaker 105 We built the, after our Asian brothers and sisters were kicked out in the 1840s, 50s, we came in and finished all the trains and tracks, and we called ourselves traqueros because of the tracks, and we finished it all the way.
Speaker 105 All the infrastructure in the southwest and west, we finished, and then we were kicked out. And there's an incredible story of this woman, Carmelita Torres, in 1910.
Speaker 105 She started the bath riots because Latinos were brought into Texas and all the southwest to work on the farms, you know, typical in homes.
Speaker 105 And she was 17, but what they would do was they would make the men and women separate, get naked, spray them with Zyklon B gas.
Speaker 105 And if they had lice, they would sometimes set their hairs on fire.
Speaker 105 And she protested, a 17-year-old girl. She disappeared after that.
Speaker 105 The Nazis borrowed a lot of those techniques that they were using in the Southwest on us. That's what the Nazis borrowed.
Speaker 20 Let's get a picture of the violator up again.
Speaker 56 That's what they look like.
Speaker 20 And yet you've never apologized for this.
Speaker 20 Look how scary that is.
Speaker 142 A child children.
Speaker 105 I know, I've damaged so many poor children.
Speaker 105 But I got paid well, though.
Speaker 105 I bought my second home and a pool.
Speaker 58 Wow. Look at that.
Speaker 112 Can you hate me for that?
Speaker 20 That's the face you make when you just realize you're going to get a pool.
Speaker 147 Well, John Legozamo, thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 139 Thank you, having it.
Speaker 5 Pleasure, man.
Speaker 51 You stick around there.
Speaker 45 You're going to stick around.
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Speaker 15 Please welcome to the stage two bad boys who look so good.
Speaker 120 It's Anthony Kerrigan and Aristotle Atari. Woo!
Speaker 64 Thank you for being here.
Speaker 151 Thanks for being here. Thanks for having me again.
Speaker 39 It's fine.
Speaker 44 Hi, thanks for being here.
Speaker 122 Thanks.
Speaker 151 Thank you. It's great to be here.
Speaker 129 I'm excited. Are you excited?
Speaker 149 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 105 He knows how to work an audience, you see?
Speaker 145 Yeah.
Speaker 129 Doing my best, right?
Speaker 149 Yeah, there you go.
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Speaker 1 Gentlemen, you've all entangled with villains on both the small and silver screens, but unfortunately, we live in reality, which is why we wanted to test your knowledge of the many, many IRL villainous deeds afoot this week in a thrilling segment we're calling Newse It or Lose It, Evil Eye Witness News.
Speaker 47 Why is that just a picture of my face?
Speaker 151 John, I'll start with you.
Speaker 20 This week, U.S.
Speaker 16 Customs and Border Protection denied blocking a Norwegian tourist from entering the country after they discovered a disrespectful meme on his phone.
Speaker 135 Oh, snap.
Speaker 58 Who was it a meme about?
Speaker 105 It was a meme about probably
Speaker 105 Stephen Miller.
Speaker 4 So close.
Speaker 20 So close. Anybody want to steal it? Yep.
Speaker 27 Chubby Vance. You got it.
Speaker 88 You got it.
Speaker 73 It was Chubby Vance.
Speaker 105 That's why I took face recognition off my phone. Yeah, you got it.
Speaker 8 You got it.
Speaker 143 Because they'll get it. Pass code.
Speaker 145 Yeah, I'll just go ahead and do passcode.
Speaker 2 I
Speaker 105 remember. You're making me nervous.
Speaker 105 I'm practicing because I know they're going to come from me.
Speaker 100 And it was so good.
Speaker 130 Yes,
Speaker 20 the CPB, the custom board patrol, called it false, saying that he actually was kicked out for admitting drug use, but I don't really, that doesn't totally make sense.
Speaker 20 So you have this meme on your phone, and then you just admit to drug use, and they send you back to Norway?
Speaker 6 Doesn't really make sense.
Speaker 121 Seems like they were going through his phone. Not really clear why either.
Speaker 6 Something to think about.
Speaker 68 Anthony,
Speaker 64 what tech billionaire was reportedly considering moving his wedding out of Venice after protests broke out across the city against him and his multinational conglomerate?
Speaker 152 Are you asking me because I'm bald?
Speaker 105 Oh my god, Jeff Bezos. No.
Speaker 96 Ding, ding, dink.
Speaker 114 Or is it?
Speaker 152 Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Speaker 105 I knew it, but I was just don't say anything bad about Jeff Bezos. He funds a lot of movies.
Speaker 116 No, and we and we do love that.
Speaker 147 Yeah, we do. And we do love that.
Speaker 147 And we do love it.
Speaker 152 Good for for him for doing that. Yeah.
Speaker 137 What a guy.
Speaker 115 What a guy. What a dude.
Speaker 4 We love our tech giants and their forays into scripted television and film.
Speaker 120 We applaud all of these conglomerates for dipping their toe in and letting us make all kinds of wonderful shows.
Speaker 56 Art.
Speaker 144 Arts.
Speaker 112 Art.
Speaker 54 Patrons of the arts.
Speaker 6 Yes, they are.
Speaker 116 And so anyway,
Speaker 46 this is a segment about hating those people protesting
Speaker 6 those good newlyweds and their wedding.
Speaker 152 Those poor little guys, you know, just trying to get married.
Speaker 27 But they, this was the, can we show the wedding imitation?
Speaker 73 It looks just like clip art.
Speaker 96 What?
Speaker 116 It just doesn't look like that's what you get when you have the most money. How is that what you landed on?
Speaker 89 Just a
Speaker 4 just looks like don't shit.
Speaker 105 But it's stealth wealth, right?
Speaker 3 Stealth wealth.
Speaker 143 Yeah, yeah, stealth wealth. That's stealth wealth.
Speaker 3 That's stealth wealth.
Speaker 143 Except for the whole event, but
Speaker 6 But Anthony, you brought up baldness.
Speaker 58 I did.
Speaker 97 Or did I, actually? Well, I brought up a bald man.
Speaker 7 You did, that's true.
Speaker 152 I get the association.
Speaker 111 But you were in the upcoming Superman,
Speaker 1 which is in July 11th.
Speaker 146 Yeah, I know.
Speaker 42 You're playing Metamorpho.
Speaker 41 Yes.
Speaker 53 Now, can we show a picture of Metamorpho?
Speaker 98 Wow.
Speaker 41 How cool is that?
Speaker 152 I know. It's pretty sweet, isn't it?
Speaker 41 I love it.
Speaker 2 Am Am I blocking you?
Speaker 152 No, no, no, no. Looking at yourself?
Speaker 150 I've seen it before.
Speaker 17 Is Metamorpho a villain or am I judging a book by its cover?
Speaker 81 So he's complicated.
Speaker 152
He's definitely complicated. I don't want any spoilers, you know, but there's definitely, you know, there's a great character arc, I would say, for my character.
I'm very excited.
Speaker 140 Does he start out looking like that?
Speaker 85 Yes. Cool.
Speaker 20 So the character arc isn't about why he looks like that.
Speaker 152 No, I mean, but the comic books, I mean, if you're interested, the comic books are actually a very fascinating story.
Speaker 58 Really?
Speaker 152 Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely.
Speaker 12 metamorpho yeah it's a cool name metamorpho
Speaker 152 do you think now you've played villains i have do you think you're typecast because you're bald yeah i think that you know but that bad like bald guys and bad guys are kind of synonymous you know it's just it's an easy it's an easy thing you know but why i don't know I don't know.
Speaker 125 I'm just such a great dude.
Speaker 152 Like, what, you know, why do they keep doing that to me?
Speaker 29 I don't think there's anything inherently villainous about being bald.
Speaker 152 I know. It's one of those unconscious things, though, I think.
Speaker 152
I don't know. I don't know why.
I don't know what it is. But yeah, just this bad guys, like Lex Luthor, another bald, bad guy, you know.
Evil. Mr.
Speaker 53 Evil.
Speaker 58 You were on Gotham, right?
Speaker 94 Yeah.
Speaker 152 Yeah, another bad guy.
Speaker 42 Who'd you play on Gotham?
Speaker 93 Victor Zaz.
Speaker 55 Victor Zaz.
Speaker 4 Yeah.
Speaker 100 Wow.
Speaker 94 And bald. And bald.
Speaker 130 Do I ever put wigs?
Speaker 105 Do I ever put wigs on you?
Speaker 152 I have. Yeah.
Speaker 152 Something that I've coming up, I'm wearing a wig.
Speaker 145 A long black wig.
Speaker 94 Are you a villain? Yeah.
Speaker 139 Even when hair.
Speaker 105 Even when hair is.
Speaker 110 I know.
Speaker 2 I'm like, that's a good theme.
Speaker 53 So if, that's interesting. So
Speaker 53 you're a villain when you're bald.
Speaker 52 You're a villain when you're not bald.
Speaker 73 Maybe it's you. Maybe it's something inside.
Speaker 100 Wow.
Speaker 21 Cool.
Speaker 146 Thanks for having me.
Speaker 36 Aristotle.
Speaker 7 Bernie Sanders stopped by the Joe Rogan podcast to issue a warning this week.
Speaker 153 At the end of the day, all we got is us.
Speaker 145 Yes. Is that right?
Speaker 154
Yeah. We are human beings.
Yeah.
Speaker 153 And we're going to have to cling to each other to get through this thing.
Speaker 129 That message really stuck with Joe Rogan, by the way.
Speaker 148 Yeah.
Speaker 149 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 129 I'm going to get this wrong, but go ahead. What's your question?
Speaker 73 What is the thing we're getting through in which we have to cling to each other?
Speaker 30 Is it A, Trump's second term, B, climate change, or C, falling in love with AI?
Speaker 100 Hmm.
Speaker 100 Wow.
Speaker 129 Give me the options again. What's A?
Speaker 56 Trump.
Speaker 30 What's B? Climate change.
Speaker 129 What's C?
Speaker 111 Falling in love with AI.
Speaker 41 I'm going to go with A.
Speaker 90 Incorrect.
Speaker 2 Oh.
Speaker 3 It's falling in love with AI.
Speaker 89 Let's show the full clip.
Speaker 151 God damn it.
Speaker 153 At the end of the day, all we got is us.
Speaker 145 Yes. That right?
Speaker 154
Yeah. We are human beings.
Yeah.
Speaker 153 And we're going to have to cling to each other to get through this thing all I would say at this moment is the answer is not to fall in love with your AI creature out there don't do that
Speaker 129 why did he get such an easy question
Speaker 129 and I got led into something that I think everybody thought it was gonna be Trump you did multiple choice though yeah yeah you were set up you know you were set up hey you know what
Speaker 70 We got you. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 105 It was a gotcha moment.
Speaker 24 It was a gotcha.
Speaker 2 It was a big time moment.
Speaker 145 And you got had.
Speaker 4 Are you at all concerned that you're going to fall in love with your AI creature, as Bernie refers to it?
Speaker 129 You know, I have talked about this before. This is not a setup for something that
Speaker 129 I came up with prior to the show.
Speaker 129 But I have said, I'm not really concerned about, I'm not really worried about nuclear warfare.
Speaker 129 I'm not worried about the real, the main thing I'm worried about is the moment that we can create some kind of
Speaker 129 like
Speaker 106 an AI robot lover,
Speaker 129 then we're all screwed.
Speaker 96 Now, you want to leave
Speaker 41 because
Speaker 41 nobody's going to leave home.
Speaker 2 Right?
Speaker 129 You're not.
Speaker 110 Right?
Speaker 129 You're definitely not.
Speaker 52 I watched the movie Companion on a Plane, so I still have 20 minutes left, and I don't think it gets to be in favor of it.
Speaker 55 Sure.
Speaker 7 Based on the first hour and 15 minutes, they seem very anti-robot sex monster.
Speaker 130 But
Speaker 93 as a theory, it's not the monster's fault.
Speaker 33 It's Frankenstein's fault.
Speaker 100 Yes.
Speaker 49 But you're in Megan 2.0.
Speaker 120 Correct.
Speaker 129
I love how you had to be like, it's 2.0. Yeah, it's 2.0.
Well, I should.
Speaker 23 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 50 I just, because there's also a three in the name.
Speaker 100 That's just true.
Speaker 41 So that's why I was checking it.
Speaker 151 God damn it.
Speaker 17 It has a three in the name, but it's two.
Speaker 71 It's big and
Speaker 20 it'll be fun when it's Megan three, because then you just make the three bigger.
Speaker 1 Yes, yes, yes wow what was Megan like to work with unset I hear she's quite the prankster
Speaker 129 she was and you know kind of racy in real life it was kind of interesting
Speaker 129 it was interesting actually like acting opposite this this animatronic robot because she was actually really good
Speaker 129 she was she knew her lines
Speaker 129 better than I knew my lines.
Speaker 129
But no, it was kind of fun. It was cool.
It was interesting. You should go see the movie.
Speaker 70 Thank you.
Speaker 130 John. Oh, what?
Speaker 14 Cobra Kai star Martin Cove was escorted out of Washington State's summer con after he did what to his co-star Alicia Hanakim?
Speaker 148 Oh, wow.
Speaker 144 I think I missed that week of news.
Speaker 154 I don't know.
Speaker 129 What are his multiple choices?
Speaker 139 Yeah, I don't even get multiple choices.
Speaker 2 What is that about?
Speaker 105 Hey, what's up with that?
Speaker 105 Did he? Is it because I'm Latin?
Speaker 142 that's right yeah that's right that's right harder questions for you okay um right maybe i am a little bitter let me come up with four let me come up with three uh a how about just two a did take one a did he bite her arm did he bite her arm uh b uh did he push her down a flight of stairs
Speaker 120 or c
Speaker 91 uh did he um uh
Speaker 56 spit in her spit in her her soup.
Speaker 129 I know they answered it. Do you want a lifeline or no?
Speaker 88 Can I get a lifeline?
Speaker 58 Yeah, you get a lifeline.
Speaker 154 All right. What is it?
Speaker 152 He did not spit in her soup.
Speaker 149 He did not spit in her soup.
Speaker 45 That's correct.
Speaker 100 There you go.
Speaker 130 I won.
Speaker 53 He bit his co-star.
Speaker 100 Yes.
Speaker 148 Wow.
Speaker 56 What?
Speaker 105 Yeah, come on, explain this. What the hell's going on?
Speaker 4 He said it was a joke.
Speaker 6 Has anyone ever bit you on set?
Speaker 116 John Leguizamo?
Speaker 105
Or an animal bit me. A snake bit me.
Really? Yeah, in the pest, this movie I did, they brought an anaconda, but it was a baby anaconda, so it was like only four feet tall, four feet long.
Speaker 105 And they put it near my crotch. I don't know why I allowed that, but I thought, can I do anything for a laugh? And it bit me on the thigh like several times.
Speaker 105 I had to go to the hospital for tetanus shots.
Speaker 20 And they cut that scene out of the Super Mario Brothers movie.
Speaker 148 Yeah.
Speaker 105 It did.
Speaker 130 Wait, what was it for?
Speaker 105 No, the pest, the pest. Oh, it was for the pest.
Speaker 2 It was for the pest.
Speaker 25 But they didn't use it or they did use it?
Speaker 105 They didn't use the biting part. They just had the snake come towards my, you know.
Speaker 151 Bob Hoskins broke his arm or his hand during.
Speaker 150 He did? Yeah.
Speaker 105 How do you know that?
Speaker 94 Because I read your book. Oh, okay.
Speaker 21 Wow.
Speaker 105 I paid him for that.
Speaker 110 I paid him for that.
Speaker 129 And you threw up chicken skins one time. Or no, no.
Speaker 83 Was it crickets? Sorry.
Speaker 105 Yeah, crickets. I threw them up.
Speaker 4 You threw up crickets?
Speaker 105 Yeah, because I ate a ton of them and I drank too much and then I threw them all up over Patrick Swayze.
Speaker 149 Oh.
Speaker 41 Can't believe you guys didn't get along.
Speaker 129 Tuang Fu, Tuwong Fu.
Speaker 29 Can't believe you guys didn't get along.
Speaker 142 We got along sometimes.
Speaker 105 It wasn't always contentious.
Speaker 55 This improv guy just threw up bugs on me.
Speaker 149 I hate it.
Speaker 32 Wait.
Speaker 89 So,
Speaker 52 hmm, let's think of a transition.
Speaker 20 Any biting in the pornos you're directing in Smoke?
Speaker 105 Oh, great. Let's talk about Smoke.
Speaker 105 still got it smoke is a credit it's a great series man it's it's based on a true crime dennis lahane the the greatest uh true crime novelist of our time and it's based on john or in the 90s was the preeminent arsonist investigator and ended up that he was setting the fires himself and he killed over a dozen people
Speaker 99 um
Speaker 98 hey uh it makes him nervous it makes him
Speaker 76 think you're sick freaks
Speaker 84 what a weird thing to lose it over.
Speaker 42 Yeah.
Speaker 55 At this moment.
Speaker 57 I think you're an arsonist.
Speaker 81 I think you set fires for fun and it makes you excited.
Speaker 105 She's pointed there.
Speaker 94 Literally will not stop laughing.
Speaker 137 Oh, okay.
Speaker 105 That's funny.
Speaker 105 So he was setting up fires and a dozen people died and he burned millions of dollars worth of property and he would have never stopped if they didn't catch him.
Speaker 29 And then when does the porn directing come in?
Speaker 130 Oh, okay.
Speaker 5 Well,
Speaker 105
I'm not the arsonist. Well, I don't want to spoiler, but I get too close to the arsonist, and I'm his best friend, and I'm going to turn him in.
And then
Speaker 105 he sets me up to be the fall guy, and he ruins my career, and I turn to drugs, and I become a porn director.
Speaker 94 Wow.
Speaker 105 That's what most firefighters do when they lose their jobs.
Speaker 25 You know what? You got to just be open to what the universe is telling you.
Speaker 41 Exactly.
Speaker 129 Sometimes you got to direct porn.
Speaker 2
Yeah, that's it. Totally.
That's it.
Speaker 154 Yeah, I think that's beautiful.
Speaker 152 Classic pipeline, pipeline, you know? Yeah.
Speaker 86 Anthony, on Wednesday, Aaron Sorkin announced he will write and direct a movie about what tech billionaires' dastardly deeds.
Speaker 6 I'll give you a hint.
Speaker 70 It's a sequel.
Speaker 150 Zuckerberg. Yeah.
Speaker 53 We're getting social network two. Oh, wow.
Speaker 100 Yeah. Part two.
Speaker 99 That was the audio.
Speaker 81 It's based on the Wall Street Journal Facebook files published in 2021
Speaker 43 about the platform's devastating effect on mental health of teens.
Speaker 90 And apparently, Aaron's going to direct it.
Speaker 100 I'm excited about it.
Speaker 54 That's great. That's great.
Speaker 2 Wow.
Speaker 115 Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 20 I love that Lucy movie.
Speaker 105 That was incredible.
Speaker 105 Made the funniest woman in America unfunny. I love that.
Speaker 140 No, I love, I was like, look, here's, you don't need jokes with Lucy.
Speaker 46 You want a stone-faced, marble-faced woman to be Lucy.
Speaker 105 Oh, my God. This is so true.
Speaker 90 Hey, Anthony. Hey.
Speaker 17 Why do you think tech billionaires go all Lex Luthor sometimes?
Speaker 58 I don't think they go like that.
Speaker 152 I don't think they go Lex Luther. I think they have it within them.
Speaker 2 You know?
Speaker 152 Someone I know
Speaker 152 says that money makes you more of who you are.
Speaker 96 Oh, yeah.
Speaker 91 So if you're
Speaker 152 a pretty good person, I think you'll be inspired inspired to continue to be a good person. But if there's that thing inside of you that's just like,
Speaker 152 you know, wants to be evil,
Speaker 152 it's going to come out.
Speaker 58 Yeah. It's going to come out.
Speaker 72 Money for some people is like, it's permission.
Speaker 87 It's permission.
Speaker 152 It's permission. Yeah.
Speaker 152 And I think a lot of people like succeed because they're kind of evil and because, you know, capitalism can kind of like really, you know, yield pretty horrible people just rising the ranks.
Speaker 15 Is that what you found when you got the money from the Ice Age thing?
Speaker 105 I plead the fifth.
Speaker 115 Aristotle.
Speaker 56 Yes.
Speaker 116 This week, Kim Kardashian was announced as the villain in the upcoming movie adaptation of What Toy Line from Amazon, which we love.
Speaker 142 Is it A?
Speaker 116 You got multiple choice.
Speaker 129 No, here's the thing.
Speaker 129 I hate that I didn't know the answer to the first question, but I do know the the answer to this one.
Speaker 141 Okay.
Speaker 63 Is it Bratz?
Speaker 57 It is Bratz. Thank you.
Speaker 108 It is Bratz dollars.
Speaker 99 You're welcome.
Speaker 83 That's cool.
Speaker 100 Okay.
Speaker 129 I thought it was, yeah.
Speaker 11 And you're just, because you're just a big Bratz guy.
Speaker 8 You keep up with Brats. Can we cut this?
Speaker 129
I love Bratz, yeah. I'm a big Bratz fan.
I collect a lot of Bratz. In fact, the more money I make, the true version of me is a big Bratz collector.
Speaker 105 A big Bratz collector.
Speaker 129 The true me.
Speaker 20 Do any of you have a toy version of yourself?
Speaker 105 I have a spawn version and a Super Mario Brothers version that looks more like Stallone, but who cares?
Speaker 100 That's cool.
Speaker 129 I love how this is going to go because you'd be like, yes, I got this. Yes.
Speaker 129 I don't.
Speaker 84 Yeah. No, as I was asking, I asked the group, but it wasn't about
Speaker 84 it.
Speaker 148 I didn't think you did. Sorry.
Speaker 58 I knew you didn't.
Speaker 83 You have to keep plugging brats and like. Yeah.
Speaker 129 The funny thing is, like, I have his toy.
Speaker 130 Which one?
Speaker 129
And the spawn one. Spawn.
And I actually have his too.
Speaker 129 And I should have brought both of them to have.
Speaker 94 Signs. You can
Speaker 105 be worth a lot more when you flip it on eBay.
Speaker 2 Maybe.
Speaker 10 Wait, Anthony, what dollar are you?
Speaker 152 I have one from Gotham, and I think I've got one.
Speaker 94 Metamorpho. From
Speaker 152 Superman from Metamorpho.
Speaker 94 Oh, cool.
Speaker 105 You get the little taste of it, of the action? No.
Speaker 137 I don't think so.
Speaker 105 If he doesn't think so, then he doesn't.
Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 112 Yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 137 Yeah.
Speaker 129 How come you never asked for a taste?
Speaker 105 You wouldn't know if you were getting a taste. Yeah, how come you never got it?
Speaker 140 Why didn't you ask for a taste?
Speaker 100 I feel like it's like, hey, just get a taste. Let me ask you this.
Speaker 116 Why don't you just turn it? We want you to get your beak went.
Speaker 90 We want you to get your beak went.
Speaker 152 I'm just going to email my agent and just say, Where's my taste?
Speaker 69 Yeah.
Speaker 152 Where's my taste? Can I get a taste?
Speaker 152 No context. And I just
Speaker 3 hope we should figure it out.
Speaker 55 It's hard to get it.
Speaker 105 No call HR, don't worry.
Speaker 7 It's hard to get it after the movie's done being filmed.
Speaker 129 You have Love It or Leave It t-shirts and all that stuff, right? Yeah.
Speaker 71 You get a taste?
Speaker 2 Yeah.
Speaker 105 Do you have a doll? What? Do you have a doll? Not yet.
Speaker 90 Well, you will. But we'll think about it.
Speaker 100 As soon as we'll crunch the numbers.
Speaker 2 And if you do, what happens?
Speaker 63 What? We'll get my beak wipe.
Speaker 151 Go a taste. You're going to taste.
Speaker 110
You're going to taste. You'll get a little taste.
You're going to get a taste.
Speaker 141 I don't know.
Speaker 129 Haven't you learned something from this?
Speaker 88 No, I already knew about getting a taste.
Speaker 146 Okay, great, great, okay, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 7 Tiebreaker question, because it is tied.
Speaker 20 Critics and fans alike were abuzz about Danny Boyle's new post-apocalyptic horror movie 28 Days Later, featuring a cannibalistic zombie featured in the film who had what?
Speaker 42 Aristotle knows this.
Speaker 105
He does. He knows everything.
He knows this.
Speaker 129 A big haug.
Speaker 8 He does have a big haug. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 15 Let's show it, no.
Speaker 21 But apparently,
Speaker 151 apparently, wait, is that it?
Speaker 129 But apparently, it's prosthetic, right? It's not even real.
Speaker 149 Oh, really?
Speaker 42 That ruins the fantasy for me.
Speaker 150 Yeah.
Speaker 146 Sorry. I'm sorry.
Speaker 25 No, he did. Yes.
Speaker 63 The actor reassured that it's a prosthetic, but when asked by the outlet if it's proportional, the actor Lewis Perry said, Can you get a taste?
Speaker 2 You get a taste.
Speaker 105 You don't want a taste of that.
Speaker 48 He said, I'm six foot eight.
Speaker 28 I'll say no more.
Speaker 21 Hey.
Speaker 43 Wow, more like 28 inches later.
Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 105 So he makes the big bucks.
Speaker 89 All right.
Speaker 15 Aristotle, you won the game.
Speaker 150 Yay!
Speaker 47 Because you know about Bratz Doll and some guys huge wang.
Speaker 142 Wang.
Speaker 83 It's a prosthetic wang.
Speaker 120 And that's News It or Lose It.
Speaker 6 Evil Eye, Witness Edition.
Speaker 4 Megan 2.0 in theaters now, Superman, which is in July 11th, and Smoke.
Speaker 120 Yes, on your Apple TVs.
Speaker 105 Yeah, June 27th.
Speaker 64 Because the plus is for TV shows.
Speaker 94 Yeah.
Speaker 42 When we're back,
Speaker 48 we're feeling patriotic.
Speaker 132 Hey, don't go anywhere. There's more of Love It or Leave It coming up.
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Speaker 45 We are off next week for the 4th of July.
Speaker 1 So, tonight we're going to get a jump on our patriotism in a segment we're calling Let Freedom Rant.
Speaker 149 All right.
Speaker 2 Oh, man.
Speaker 50 And put us on some great, nice bodies.
Speaker 20 We'll spin the wheel, and each of us will share one thing we'd like to declare our independence from.
Speaker 34 Something you want to be independent from.
Speaker 94 Oh, that's a tough one.
Speaker 83 Let's spin the wheel.
Speaker 120 Aristotle, it's landed on you.
Speaker 13 What do you want to declare your independence from?
Speaker 129 From my cell phone, from my iPhone.
Speaker 129 I'm actually doing it too.
Speaker 129 Not right now, but I'm doing it tomorrow.
Speaker 116 How are you going to do it?
Speaker 129 Well, I bought, I got this thing called a dumb phone, or
Speaker 129 it's a class of phone.
Speaker 151 This is a real thing.
Speaker 129 And it's basically kind of
Speaker 129
a technologically unremarkable phone. And it just kind of gives me what I need: email, text messages, just basic stuff.
Email, text messages, phone calls, just the basics.
Speaker 129 Email, text messages, phone calls,
Speaker 129 like a little bit of internet, just the basics. So it's text messages, email, phone call, a little bit of internet, some social media.
Speaker 129 But it's the basics.
Speaker 129 But it has like an e-ink black and white screen, and it's not very fun to kind of scroll through.
Speaker 129 But yeah, the idea is to kind of get, because I honestly,
Speaker 129
it's a lot, you you know. Um, it's too much for me.
That's my independence.
Speaker 130 I like that.
Speaker 34 I like that. Are you addicted to your phone?
Speaker 130 Oh, hell yeah.
Speaker 105 Nice.
Speaker 144 I can't live without my phone.
Speaker 105 I miss it right now.
Speaker 70 Yeah.
Speaker 105 I'm touching my phone.
Speaker 83 They're bad for us.
Speaker 152 You ever notice that when someone takes out their phone, you just instinctually just take it out?
Speaker 100 Oh, yeah.
Speaker 4 Of course, of course.
Speaker 73 It's so corrosive.
Speaker 114 And it really like hits.
Speaker 105 It's corrosive. No, no, I think it's
Speaker 143 inspiring. Beautiful.
Speaker 105 I get a lot of stuff done on my phone.
Speaker 130 No, no, we do accomplish a lot.
Speaker 10 We do get a lot done on the phone
Speaker 124 for sure. Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 9 And I don't want to say that I don't want to yuck your yum if it's working for you.
Speaker 116 Clearly, it is. You're drawn like Wizamo.
Speaker 100 It's working.
Speaker 105 No, you could be, you could, you could be, yeah, never mind.
Speaker 71 No, not because of, not, well, not.
Speaker 97 I think it's not holding you back.
Speaker 105
You could be contentious with me. It's okay.
I don't mind.
Speaker 96 I mean, if I want to.
Speaker 105 I want to talk to Aaron Sorkin.
Speaker 105 Do you have his number?
Speaker 29 No.
Speaker 81 We lost touch after Newsroom season three.
Speaker 105 I like Newsroom. It was such a great show.
Speaker 51 The whole thing.
Speaker 105 Did you write the best monologues or what?
Speaker 69 Yeah, no, they're all me.
Speaker 5 I thought so.
Speaker 105 I could tell. I could tell it was you.
Speaker 20 What are we talking about? Oh, the phone.
Speaker 1 You know what I downloaded to my phone? What?
Speaker 79 An app where every time I try to open Twitter, Instagram, or TikTok, something pops up and says, take a deep breath.
Speaker 16 And it goes slowly down the screen and it tells me how many times I've opened it in the last 24 hours.
Speaker 26 And it has just made it so much harder for me to do the thing I was going to do anyway and continue to do relentlessly.
Speaker 105 So now you're spending more time on your phone.
Speaker 13 Basically, taking these breaths.
Speaker 129
I know. I mean, look, you could do all the things that you can do on some of these dumb phones.
They have like, it's just like a black and white, very
Speaker 129
slightly slower version of an iPhone. You could do all the things that you want to do on your phone, John.
And I'm calling him John because we're friends now.
Speaker 105 Yeah, yeah. You read my autobiography?
Speaker 151 Yeah, I did.
Speaker 3 I feel close to you.
Speaker 151 A few times.
Speaker 129 He's got great stories about Seagal, too, by the way.
Speaker 105
Oh, my God. I hate him.
Yeah.
Speaker 130 He hit me.
Speaker 51 He hit you? Steven Seagal hit him.
Speaker 105
We were doing this movie, Executive Decision. I was supposed to be his right-hand man.
He comes into this first day of rehearsal and he goes, What I say is law. And I was like,
Speaker 105
I thought he was joking. And he elbowed me into my solar plexus, knocked me to the ground.
And I was like,
Speaker 100 I hate you.
Speaker 72 So that, I mean, can I do a spoiler for 1993's executive session?
Speaker 105 Yes, yes, good.
Speaker 94 I don't know.
Speaker 5 He meant it. He meant it.
Speaker 10 Let's spin it again.
Speaker 105 He dies.
Speaker 142 He dies.
Speaker 139 10 minutes in, I was so
Speaker 139 happy.
Speaker 42 Well, that's the thing.
Speaker 115 It's like,
Speaker 54 just, I don't understand what he had time to punch you because you get up until you get out of the fucking stealth bomber into a Marine One or whatever.
Speaker 29 No, it's just an airplane.
Speaker 105
He didn't want to come out the day he died out of his trailer because he didn't want to die. He was furious.
And I was waiting for him, even though it was fake. I wanted to believe it was real.
Speaker 140 Because this is because the movie,
Speaker 81 it's Kurt Russell and Stephen Seagal. It's all average.
Speaker 105 And a host of other actors.
Speaker 91 A lot of great actors, but Steven Seagal is like the big, he's an action star.
Speaker 14 He's done Under Siege.
Speaker 15 And now, and then you're 10 minutes into the movie and the fucking connector to the plane is shaking.
Speaker 105 I love it.
Speaker 90 And then all of a sudden Stephen Sagal goes like, complete the mission.
Speaker 15 And then closes the fucking thing.
Speaker 111 You're like, dies. Yes.
Speaker 1 That's why he punched you.
Speaker 5 He was mad at all. He was.
Speaker 105 He dies in Russia. He lives in Russia and he's like with Putin or something.
Speaker 124 Putin, yeah, for sure. How do you say it?
Speaker 143 He says it.
Speaker 150 Putin.
Speaker 129
He was legitimately mad that he was. It's almost like he didn't even know he was going to die in this movie.
And he signed on. He was there.
And he literally wouldn't come out of his trailer.
Speaker 129 Again, this is all based on the book.
Speaker 2 No,
Speaker 2 I'm telling you, he wouldn't come out.
Speaker 105 They had to talk him out of his trailer because he was trying to talk them into keep him alive.
Speaker 81 He assumed that he saw the script, saw he was supposed to die, and assumed he would charm his way.
Speaker 84 Yes, yeah.
Speaker 105 Once they had the most charming human being on the planet.
Speaker 3 Once they had the Steven Seagal experience, they couldn't possibly let the stealth bomber just fly off the thing.
Speaker 152 Right. As soon as he elbowed you in the solar plexus, they would keep him on.
Speaker 145 Yes, yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 Yeah.
Speaker 55 Once he'd leveled John Leguizamo on set, they'd be like, this is.
Speaker 105
5'8, he's 6'5 and runs like a girl, which is nothing wrong with that. Nothing Nothing wrong with that.
Nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 96 He does.
Speaker 142 He runs like he's double-dutching like this.
Speaker 41 Yeah.
Speaker 151 Yeah, he does.
Speaker 105 He does. He runs like that.
Speaker 143 For real.
Speaker 129 He did run track.
Speaker 143 But he will kick your ass. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 94 He's 6'5.
Speaker 145
He's gonna kick my ass. I'm not gonna lie.
I get it.
Speaker 129 I read the book so I can talk like I was there.
Speaker 146 So, yeah.
Speaker 151 So he hit him in a self-and then John and Kurt Russell had butting heads because he kept improving.
Speaker 58 Yeah, I know.
Speaker 105 We didn't get along either. I don't get along with a lot of people.
Speaker 146 It was a lot. I was just like, why are you doing this, man?
Speaker 11 I have to say, we've we've done hundreds of episodes of this show.
Speaker 93 I've never in the history just been, had someone else be like, I'm going to bring, I want to go through the book of another guest.
Speaker 88 And I love it. It's awesome.
Speaker 141
It's awesome. It's amazing.
It's fantastic.
Speaker 45 He's a hero to me.
Speaker 146 You don't understand.
Speaker 129 So like sitting in it, I'm not kidding.
Speaker 129 So the last time I met a hero backstage, I didn't tell him how. how much of and I'm and when I told when you when I finish the story you can you can say thank you
Speaker 105 I'm saying thank you already.
Speaker 129 The last time I was backstage with the hero, which was Robin Williams,
Speaker 129 and I did a full-on show with him at UCB.
Speaker 129
I acted like a fucking cool cucumber. I didn't tell him how important he was to me.
And he even talked to us for like a good hour after the show. And then not that long after that, he was gone.
Speaker 129 So I'm telling, and the same thing happened with John Ritter.
Speaker 105 Oh, my God.
Speaker 91 You're the.
Speaker 2 I'm the.
Speaker 96 I gotta go.
Speaker 99 what I'm saying
Speaker 70 Angel of
Speaker 44 the Angel of Death and idiotsamo stay away from me angel of fucking death our
Speaker 41 soul
Speaker 2 that's why I'm telling you because I didn't say my name
Speaker 130 I didn't tell Rodney.
Speaker 139 Don't say my name
Speaker 141 There you go. I'm telling you because I watch you alive.
Speaker 86 I think
Speaker 48 we'll sage it mentally.
Speaker 98 You can come back, probably.
Speaker 151 Come back, come back.
Speaker 26 I think he's really gone.
Speaker 81 I think he's that's here's the thing.
Speaker 26 You don't get to be John like Wizamo without committing to the bit.
Speaker 115 He's in his car.
Speaker 29 He's fucking gone.
Speaker 28 I met one of my heroes once.
Speaker 20 It was George Lucas.
Speaker 11 And I was at a party because I was at the time a plus one to someone who was invited to that kind of thing.
Speaker 13 And I see George Lucas, and I'm like, I'm going to go ask.
Speaker 34 And my partner at the time said, don't do it.
Speaker 27 And I'm like, I'm going to ask.
Speaker 1 I was like, don't do it.
Speaker 6 I was like, I'm going to do it.
Speaker 28 So I go up to George Lucas and I was like, hey, the internet has a theory.
Speaker 26 The theory is that Jar Jar Binks was always meant to be revealed in the third film to be Darth Jarjar.
Speaker 85 It was supposed to be this reveal because you set up Jar Jar as this flummox goof.
Speaker 15 And then all of a sudden in the third movie, Jar Jar drops
Speaker 19 the act, and you realize Darth Jar Jar was there the whole time pulling the strings.
Speaker 1 And if you look in the first movie, you can find
Speaker 20 signs of this, but that the reaction to Jar Jar was so negative that he killed that and invented Count Dooku.
Speaker 7 and just replaced what was supposed to be Darth Jarjar with Count Dooku, which doesn't actually make sense.
Speaker 20 Why wouldn't you have introduced, like, Count Dooku doesn't make sense, just like the whole thing's a mess.
Speaker 57 And so I went up to George Lucas and I was like,
Speaker 110 what?
Speaker 51 Darth Jar Jarjar, was it real?
Speaker 52 And when I say that that man looked at me with a level of disdain,
Speaker 70 like
Speaker 137 he was like, no, what?
Speaker 84 Like, it wasn't even like a fun, charming wink.
Speaker 54 No, it was, no,
Speaker 71 what, never,
Speaker 75 nothing.
Speaker 57 Never occurred to me.
Speaker 22 What are you talking about?
Speaker 41 I think that would have.
Speaker 146 I think that would have been so rad, actually.
Speaker 151 No.
Speaker 88 It was a good idea.
Speaker 41 It was a great idea. It was a good idea.
Speaker 151 Totally.
Speaker 100 From the meets of the bad guy.
Speaker 2 Yeah.
Speaker 152 Do we think, you know, you guys seen the movie?
Speaker 129 John, can you please come back?
Speaker 10 John Laguizzamo.
Speaker 50 Hey, it's safe to come back.
Speaker 2 It's safe to come back.
Speaker 94 It's safe. It's safe.
Speaker 129 It's safe. I'm just saying I'm telling you this so that it doesn't happen.
Speaker 129
That's what I'm saying. Because I didn't to the other guys, and here you go.
Okay, so there you go.
Speaker 41 You got all
Speaker 129 the whole spectrum of feelings going on.
Speaker 46 Always meet your heroes, then kill them.
Speaker 100 Yes.
Speaker 56 Let's spin it again.
Speaker 1 Anthony, what is something you want to declare your independence from?
Speaker 152 Steven Seagal.
Speaker 146 He runs like a girl.
Speaker 152 Nothing more than my buddy John. I'm not, you know.
Speaker 2 Yeah.
Speaker 59 Wherever you are in Russia,
Speaker 152 you can fucking stay there.
Speaker 58 Yeah,
Speaker 111 you got them.
Speaker 152 Let's spin it again.
Speaker 1 John, what's something you'd like to declare your independence from?
Speaker 105 How is it that it gets each one of us?
Speaker 50 I'll ask it. How comes it go?
Speaker 20 What is the purpose of the wheel at all?
Speaker 100 There's four people on this stage.
Speaker 2 We're each going to go.
Speaker 43 What's the value?
Speaker 2 Why do we do it?
Speaker 105 Am I ruining the whole thing, the whole reality?
Speaker 46 You couldn't because this has been a stupid gimmick for literally eight years.
Speaker 11 It has never worked.
Speaker 105 I didn't mean to
Speaker 105 ruin it.
Speaker 2 And what's crazy is kind of odd.
Speaker 20 Every time we drop the wheel, something isn't right.
Speaker 43 And even though this doesn't make sense at all, there's something it does in our brains.
Speaker 100 Yes, it does.
Speaker 143 When
Speaker 46 it releases a little endorphin or something, when you see your face stop on the wheel and you'll come alive.
Speaker 105 They had the opposite effect. There wasn't endorphins at.
Speaker 148 Oh, wow. Oh, wow.
Speaker 105 I was going to say the Democratic Party.
Speaker 105 I was feeling,
Speaker 105 I don't know. I feel like we're in such a mess and it's, I don't know.
Speaker 105
What do I do with myself? I don't know. I've been a Democrat my whole entire life, but it's such a mess.
I don't know.
Speaker 105 Social Democrat, socialist Democrat, I don't know.
Speaker 90 Okay.
Speaker 105 Independent.
Speaker 105 It's a tough time to be a Democrat.
Speaker 15 Yeah, they're a bunch of goofs.
Speaker 143 My take on it. I'm sure you have a good take.
Speaker 84 Well, my view on all of it is like, I am a Democrat.
Speaker 9 It's not because I love Democrats, like the elected politicians.
Speaker 26 It's because in a two-party system, and we will be a two-party system.
Speaker 59 I mean, you can do ranked choice, which is a great thing.
Speaker 34 A lot of changes you can make, but if we have first-past-the-post congressional districts, we're just going to be some form of two-party system for a while unless we make some big reforms, which takes power to win, which would require the Democratic Party to win.
Speaker 7 But I've never, the Democratic Party is just the best vehicle we have to represent the biggest movement we could possibly build.
Speaker 22 And that to me should be a big pro-democracy movement that captures basically anybody that believes in democracy, the rule of law, equality, basic compassion,
Speaker 22 that's anti-corruption, that sort of believes in these precepts.
Speaker 72 And we need to build as big, a broad, diverse coalition of people under that banner.
Speaker 20 Right now, it should be under the Democratic Party banner.
Speaker 57 I don't care if you're in the, I don't care if you register as a Democrat.
Speaker 9 I don't care how anyone identifies, but you get behind the people.
Speaker 1 Sometimes they'll be Democrats. Sometimes they might be Democratic socialists like Momdani.
Speaker 7 You get behind the people that are going to help achieve those ends and that are a part of.
Speaker 105
Okay, I'm sold. I'm back.
Great.
Speaker 2 Yeah.
Speaker 105
Thank you. Thank you for talking me down.
Yeah.
Speaker 88 No, and like, I appreciate that.
Speaker 113 I just, it's,
Speaker 59 and then we have to do our best to make sure that the people that lead the Democratic Party aren't,
Speaker 85 you know, skeletons,
Speaker 17 empty suits, just sort of kind of crawling out from the abyss to release press statements
Speaker 82 in front of a country they don't know or understand.
Speaker 16 That to me is a big problem as well.
Speaker 28 So that's something to think about.
Speaker 76 Let's spin it again.
Speaker 17 Oh, it's landed on me, terrific.
Speaker 64 That's perfect.
Speaker 114 You know,
Speaker 38 we're about to have the July 4th holiday, and there's going to be a lot of news that happens.
Speaker 84 I am eager to declare my independence from the news for a couple of weeks.
Speaker 120 We're going to take a break.
Speaker 150 And I find that one of the hardest parts of keeping up with this era where part of the goal and strategy of the other side is to be relentless and exhausting,
Speaker 85 knowing that
Speaker 87 it takes more time to dispel something false than to say something false,
Speaker 78 that it's harder to play a game when you care about the rules.
Speaker 93 It just is.
Speaker 75 But part of, I think, the challenge is feeling like
Speaker 16 it's hard to have perspective.
Speaker 78 when you're keeping up with everything all the time.
Speaker 34 And I like keeping up with everything all the time, but I think sometimes it's valuable for all of us to take a moment, step back and remember that
Speaker 74 the chaos machine, the kind of screaming chaos machine will be there, even if we put it aside for a little bit.
Speaker 38 And I'm excited to step back for a couple weeks and come back because one of the things I'm proudest about getting to do this show is we've been doing it for a very long time, but everybody on this team is interested in what it means to have it feel like valuable.
Speaker 98 and new, even though we're all, I think, going through this together.
Speaker 34 And a lot of what we have to point out to us feels a bit obvious.
Speaker 75 Part of the dispiriting aspect to all of this is how much of what we're dealing with is both incredibly dangerous and incredibly obvious and stupid at the same time.
Speaker 1 But I'm really proud of the shows we've been doing, but I'm also excited to have some time for us to step back and think about how we can
Speaker 101 keep figuring out how to respond.
Speaker 75 And I think sometimes that means for all of us, getting back into history, getting out of the present.
Speaker 24 And so that's what I'm going to declare my independence from after we do the Pod Monday.
Speaker 2 All right.
Speaker 39 Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 16 And then I'll get to go see Megan
Speaker 19 2.0. 2.0.
Speaker 143 Yeah, I got to see that. Superman.
Speaker 42 And then
Speaker 36 watch you set stuff on fire and make some porno or whatever it is.
Speaker 50 I think that's the gist of it on Smoke.
Speaker 89 And that's our show.
Speaker 54 Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 Thank you.
Speaker 40 Kerrigan and Aristotle Atari. We're off till July 31st, but we'll be dropping some special bonus content on the feed and on YouTube.
Speaker 1 So make sure to tune in. There are 493 days until the midterm elections.
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