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Speaker 2 What's up, Los Angeles?

Speaker 1 Happy Pride, everybody.

Speaker 1 Tonight is our annual Pride Show,

Speaker 1 And we have a stack lineup of gays, days, and lesbians.

Speaker 1 Darby Lynn Cartwright and Alexis Bevels are here.

Speaker 1 Kleia Duvall, Adam Ripon, and Joel Kim Booster are here.

Speaker 1 Brennan Scannell and Sabrina Wu are here.

Speaker 1 The straight woman who sued because a gay woman took her job and just won at the Supreme Court is here.

Speaker 1 Maybe she had a case.

Speaker 1 It was like 9-0.

Speaker 2 It's like, oh.

Speaker 1 Let's check her priors.

Speaker 1 Maybe some lesbians got her.

Speaker 1 But first, let's get into it. What a week.

Speaker 1 The unholy alliance between the world's

Speaker 1 richest man and the world's least person fell apart on Thursday.

Speaker 1 Just last week, Elon Musk and Donald Trump parted amicably in an event at the White House. Trump even gave Elon a golden key.

Speaker 4 I have given it to some, but it goes to very special people, and I thought

Speaker 4 I'd give it to Elon as a presentation from our country.

Speaker 4 Thank you, Elon.

Speaker 1 But alas, the Key Party couldn't last.

Speaker 1 On Tuesday, Elon posted this tweet. He said, I'm sorry, but I just can't stand it anymore.
This massive, outrageous, pork-filled congressional spending bill is a disgusting abomination.

Speaker 2 Shame on those who voted for it.

Speaker 1 You know you did wrong. You know it.
Pork-filled abomination. Are we talking about a Republican spending bill or am I self-flagellating inner monologue after a trip to Din Tai Fun?

Speaker 1 In response, the White House was uncharacteristically restrained.

Speaker 6 Look, the president already knows where Elon Musk stood on this bill. It doesn't change the president's opinion.
This is one big, beautiful bill, and he's sticking to it.

Speaker 1 And for a short while, Trump himself didn't take the bait either, which is honestly alarming.

Speaker 1 Like if you drop a piece of hamburger on the floor and your dog doesn't go for it, time to take that little guy to the vet.

Speaker 1 Something's not right. Trump finally shared his reaction at the White House when he was in a meeting with Germany's new chancellor on Thursday.

Speaker 4 Well, look, you know, I've always liked Elon, and so I was very surprised. You saw the words he had for me, the words of, and he hasn't said anything about me that's bad.

Speaker 4 I'd rather have him criticize me than the bill, because the bill is incredible.

Speaker 4 But I'm very disappointed because Elon knew the inner workings of this bill better than almost anybody sitting here, better than you people. He knew everything about it.
He had no problem with it.

Speaker 1 Look at Trump trying to keep it amicable, feeling it out to see if they can keep sharing an HBO Max account.

Speaker 1 But then Elon said Trump lied when he claimed Musk knew the contents of the one big bad bill. Said Elon, false.

Speaker 1 This was never shown to me, even once, and was passed in the dead of night so fast that almost no one in Congress could even read it.

Speaker 1 And if it was shown to me, he went on to say, I definitely remember, Musk added, while aggressively shoveling pills into his mouth the same way Tom Cruise eats popcorn.

Speaker 1 Crazy way to eat popcorn. He's so intense about everything.

Speaker 1 But you could tell that this restraint is not Trump's natural mode. Like when people have a ferret as a pet, sure, it's trying to be sweet and calm, but it would rather be eating that baby's eyes.

Speaker 1 The president went on to say this.

Speaker 4 He said, remember, he was here for a long time. You saw a man who was very happy when he stood behind the oval desk.

Speaker 4 And even with the black eye, I said, do you want a little makeup? We'll get you a little makeup. But he said, no, I don't think so, which is interesting.

Speaker 1 Are you sure, Elon? We have all this stuff left over from the Biden administration right here.

Speaker 1 Concealer, wigs, tape, peanut butter for that thing where you put it in a horse's mouth and it talks like Mr. Ed, cloning machine.

Speaker 1 Trump continued.

Speaker 4 I'll tell you,

Speaker 4 he's not the first. People leave my administration

Speaker 4 and they love us.

Speaker 4 And then at some point they miss it so badly. And some of them embrace it and some of them actually become hostile.
I don't know what it is.

Speaker 4 It's sort of Trump derangement syndrome, I guess they call it.

Speaker 1 I think Trump should count himself lucky. He managed to get out of this relationship without bearing any of Elon's children.

Speaker 1 The president also pinpointed why he thinks Elon turned on the bill.

Speaker 4 But I'm very disappointed because Elon knew the inner workings of this bill better than almost anybody sitting here, better than you people. He knew everything about it.
He had no problem with it.

Speaker 4 All of a sudden, he had a problem, and he only developed the problem when he found out that we're going to have to cut the EV mentape.

Speaker 1 Once this dust is all settled, what are the odds I can get a Tesla again?

Speaker 1 My current car is horrible. It's not the car's fault.
The interface on the Tesla was good.

Speaker 1 A lot of rattling.

Speaker 1 In response to Trump's comments, Musk tweeted, whatever, keep the EV solar incentive cuts in the bill, even though no oil and gas subsidies are touched. Very unfair.

Speaker 1 But ditch the mountain of disgusting pork in the bill. Hey, keep the good name of Disgusting Pork Mountain out of your mouth.
I've met both of my future husbands there.

Speaker 1 Speaking of which, see you all at Disgusting Pork Mountain for our Stop the Squeal rally after the show. A $10 donation gets you two loose pierogies and trichinosis.

Speaker 2 But then, but then,

Speaker 1 I'm sorry, I can't believe I have to. It's so sad.

Speaker 1 It got personal.

Speaker 1 I hate it. You hate to see this.
Musk said, Without me, Trump would have lost the election, Dems would have control of the House, and the Republicans would be 51-49 in the Senate.

Speaker 1 Elon is such a fucking credit whore. You're not even going to mention how much Joe Biden helped.

Speaker 1 In response,

Speaker 7 what?

Speaker 1 Fucking face it.

Speaker 1 Face what we did. Face what he did.

Speaker 1 Sorry, someone's like, I didn't do it.

Speaker 1 In response to a Laura Loomer post, wondering what Republican politicians would do now, Elon wrote, oh, and some food for thought as they ponder this question.

Speaker 1 Trump has 3.5 years as president, but I'll be around for 40 plus.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Musk then said he's trying to invent a new kind of ketamine that will help you live forever instead of making you incontinent before you drown in the bathtub.

Speaker 1 Sorry. Sorry to say that.
Trump came back swinging on True Social. By the way, how funny is it? They're both on their little platforms, you know?

Speaker 1 Kind of like, this is how I would fight him if he were here. This is how I would fight him if he were over here.

Speaker 1 On True Social, Trump wrote, the easiest way to save money in our budget, billions and billions of dollars, is to terminate Elon Musk's government subsidies and contracts.

Speaker 1 I was always surprised that Biden didn't do it, which is partly why, in the midst of all this, Tesla's stock plummeted again. Imagine, imagine you're, yeah, you're great.

Speaker 1 How did it come to the point where we're just rooting for this pathbreaking electric car company to fucking fail?

Speaker 2 Sucks.

Speaker 1 It's like, stop worrying about them. What do we want?

Speaker 2 Fuck, fucked, fucked.

Speaker 1 Of all the sloppy breakups I knew we were gonna have this pride, this one makes me the absolute happiest.

Speaker 1 Road Trump, Elon was wearing thin. I asked him to leave.

Speaker 1 I took away his EV mandate that forced everyone to buy electric cars that nobody else wanted, that he knew for months I was gonna do, and he just went crazy.

Speaker 1 By the way, though, it is like such a fucking red flag when men call their exes crazy.

Speaker 2 It's like, oh, she's crazy.

Speaker 1 She went crazy.

Speaker 1 Any involvement you had in that? You loved her, then she went crazy? Just happened?

Speaker 1 The fucking moon thing?

Speaker 1 At this point, Elon went nuclear. He said Trump should be impeached and quote, time to drop the really big bomb.
Real Donald Trump is in the Epstein files.

Speaker 1 That is the real reason they have not been made public.

Speaker 1 Which is devastating. We here at Love It or Leave it prepared a little in memoriam for Trump in response.

Speaker 1 That's all the music we're allowed to use.

Speaker 1 We're a podcast. You want to pay for it? You fucking pay for it.

Speaker 1 But just so we're clear here, Elon's position is, one, Donald Trump was somehow involved in a global pedophilia ring.

Speaker 1 And two, he, Elon, is the sole reason that Donald Trump got elected president of the United States. A powerful message.

Speaker 1 And sure. We are all having fun, but imagine how much more fun this would be if we lived in a functioning democracy where two billionaire narcissists crashing out.

Speaker 1 Did it impact rural hospital closures and meal programs for needy kids? Their drama shouldn't be this important.

Speaker 1 Musk, who believes empathy is Western civilization's weakness, personally oversaw the dismantling of USAID, which has, by some estimates, already led to the deaths of 300,000 people, mostly children.

Speaker 1 And it is impossible to measure the cost of research programs shut down, experiments never run, drugs never tested. Sure, Elon is testing a lot of drugs.

Speaker 1 But there's no fucking control group, so what are we doing here?

Speaker 1 Many on social media joked about this, ending in Elon Musk's deportation.

Speaker 1 And then like a prayer said over a mound of clay, the joke became all too real when former Trump advisor and guy who took a shirt off a chair by the bed and sniffed it before putting it on, Steve Bannon,

Speaker 1 said that he was advising Trump to cancel all of Musk's contracts and told reporters they should initiate a formal investigation of his immigration status because I am of the strong belief that he is an illegal alien and he should be deported from the country immediately.

Speaker 1 Don't, what the fuck?

Speaker 1 Shame on you. Shame on you applauding that in the dark.

Speaker 1 First they came for Elon, but I did not speak up.

Speaker 2 Deal with it.

Speaker 2 Deal with it.

Speaker 1 He's a citizen.

Speaker 1 Bannon is the kind of friend you want to have in a breakup. He was never good enough for you, and anything you want to do to him is justified.
You can set his house on fire.

Speaker 1 You should set his house on fire.

Speaker 1 Bannon also called on Trump to investigate Musk's drug use and his reported effort to get in a classified briefing on China from the Pentagon and said that Musk's security clearance should be suspended in the meantime.

Speaker 1 For my friends, everything. For my enemies, the law.

Speaker 1 You know that Roy Oberson song?

Speaker 2 It's really good.

Speaker 1 Fox didn't really know how to cover this, but we did get this lovely moment.

Speaker 8 Sometimes when you're angry, you say things you don't mean. Brig knocked my hair last week, and I said he's on the Epstein list.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you did.

Speaker 8 Sometimes guys fight. Guys sometimes will punch you in the face, and the next night you're having a beer.

Speaker 1 Sleep with your girlfriend, and you patch things up.

Speaker 2 Really?

Speaker 2 Not your wife, your girlfriend.

Speaker 2 No one slept with my girlfriend.

Speaker 8 Let's put it that way. Oh, my word.

Speaker 1 What did the let's put it that way mean?

Speaker 1 No one's up with my girlfriend. Let's put it that way.
What are you talking about?

Speaker 1 10 out of 10. No notes.

Speaker 1 The whole kerfuffle was set off by Musk's opposition to Trump's spending bill that cuts taxes for the rich, increases the debt by trillions of dollars, and costs as many as 16 million people their health care.

Speaker 1 This is, of course, unpopular and indefensible.

Speaker 1 But during a contentious town hall last Friday, Iowa Senator Joni Ernst absolutely nailed her response to a woman who shouted in reference to Trump's proposed Medicaid cuts that people will die.

Speaker 1 People are not dying.

Speaker 9 Well, we all are going to die.

Speaker 1 Good to lock in the 2026 campaign slogan, nice and early.

Speaker 1 Now, after her comments sparked outrage, Ernst did the seemingly impossible and managed to make it worse with a sarcastic apology video that she filmed, where?

Speaker 1 In a cemetery.

Speaker 10 And I

Speaker 10 made an incorrect assumption that everyone in the auditorium understood that, yes,

Speaker 10 we are all going to perish from this earth.

Speaker 10 So I apologize.

Speaker 10 And I'm really, really glad that I did not have to bring up the subject of the tooth fairy as well.

Speaker 1 It's nice of her to keep digging in the place where the holes are at least useful.

Speaker 1 But Joni wasn't the only Republican struggling to defend the We're All Gonna Die Act of 2025.

Speaker 1 Georgia congresswoman in person who does not wipe down the machine after, Marjorie Taylor Greene,

Speaker 1 said she regretted voting for the bill and admitted that she didn't actually read it. She objected to a revision slipped into the bill that would ban state regulation for AI for a decade.

Speaker 1 Though I'm not sure what Marjorie's worried about, AI will never be able to replace jobs like scarecrow that got struck by lightning and started having doubts about the Holocaust.

Speaker 2 Please, these gays, they're trying to murder me.

Speaker 1 And you know what that sound means? It's time for gay news.

Speaker 1 Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Gay news.

Speaker 1 In Montana, the Missoula City City Council skirted a state ban on pride flags in government buildings by adopting the pride flag as the official city flag.

Speaker 2 Great move.

Speaker 1 Not to be outdone, San Francisco proposed replacing its official flag, a sea lion shooting up on a streetcar,

Speaker 1 with an even gayer pride flag, which officials are hoping to accomplish by 2032 once the first environmental impact statement is complete.

Speaker 1 Bada, ba, bada, gay news.

Speaker 1 Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has directed the Navy to remove Harvey Milk's name from a vessel celebrating the late gay rights icon. In Milk's honor, however, the ship will remain full of seamen.

Speaker 1 Explained Hegseth, there's no good reason for the Navy to honor Harvey Milk this way, who I assume is the inventor of milk.

Speaker 1 Pete, you can rename the ships, you can throw out the books at the Naval Academy, but you will never stop the Navy from being gay.

Speaker 1 Harvey Milk was the first openly gay man to be elected to public office in this country and had served in the Navy until he was forced to resign when he was outed.

Speaker 1 Interesting fact, the reason Harvey Milk is said to be the first gay man elected to public office is because a few years before in Michigan, Kathy Kozachenko was elected to the Ann Arbor City Council, and another lesbian was elected to the Massachusetts legislature a year later.

Speaker 1 But these path-breaking dykes are less well known than Harvey Milk. because PR is all gay guys and straight women, lesbians.
Step away from the lathe and write a press release for your girl, Kathy.

Speaker 1 Let's get her a ship. Bada, ba-ba-da-da-gay news.

Speaker 1 A museum in Amsterdam exhibited a 200-year-old condom decorated with an erotic scene of three clergymen and a nun, which curators say was likely a luxury brothel souvenir.

Speaker 1 Said Joe Biden, oh, there it is.

Speaker 1 And that's gay news.

Speaker 1 In Grey News, Grey Anatomy star

Speaker 1 Ellen Pompeo said that the TSA recently called in a bomb squad when she tried to go through security with sunflower seeds from Erewhon. One TSA agent reportedly said to Pompeo, you paid how much?

Speaker 1 That's got to be a crime. Pompeo told Travel and Leisure, they literally held me for an hour and they brought the bomb squad in.
Imagine, you're a TSA agent.

Speaker 1 Ellen Pompeo's bag has set off the bomb detector. You're pretty sure she doesn't have a bomb.

Speaker 3 She's Ellen Pompeo.

Speaker 1 But then what if she does? What if the 20th season of Grey's Anatomy finally pushed her over the edge?

Speaker 1 Ellen Pompeo blows up a passenger plane, and you're the agent who led her board because she was Ellen Pompeo from Grey's Anatomy. You can't take that kind of a risk.

Speaker 1 In other gray news, an elephant

Speaker 1 broke into a store in Thailand and helped itself to several bags of sweet rice crackers, bananas, and a sandwich.

Speaker 1 Don't love that I ate more than a starving elephant for lunch, but hey, at least I had pants on when I did it.

Speaker 1 In B News, 250 million bees escaped after a semi-truck overturned in Washington state. According to B experts, that's a quarter of a billion.

Speaker 1 In an unrelated story, this summer's hottest fashion accessory is a big hat with a mesh veil.

Speaker 1 If you want to help out the company that suffered this loss, they have started a GoFundMe.

Speaker 1 And that's B News.

Speaker 1 Coming up, Darby Lynn Cartwright and Alexis Bevel share their very homosexual opinions.

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Speaker 1 A very wise drag queen once asked, if you don't love yourself, how the hell are you going to love somebody else?

Speaker 1 My question is, if you don't hate yourself, how the hell are you gonna hate somebody else?

Speaker 1 Here to help us figure it out, it's tonight's judges, the Waldorf and Stadler of drag, Darby Lynn Cartwright and Alexis Bevels.

Speaker 2 Hi,

Speaker 1 thank you for being here.

Speaker 1 It's so lovely to have you. Please join us at the desk.

Speaker 1 Thank you both for being here.

Speaker 2 Thanks for having us.

Speaker 1 Do you do a lot of judging on your show together? Yes.

Speaker 18 All the time. But like kindly.
Like I've never called someone ugly, although I have. And I.

Speaker 19 It's usually me, but I didn't mean to.

Speaker 18 It just came out. It was when like the truth came out.
And it's like, how are you going to stop that?

Speaker 2 You know?

Speaker 18 But she doesn't talk to me anymore.

Speaker 18 What are we judging tonight? How judgy do we have to be?

Speaker 1 You can be as judgy as you want to be.

Speaker 1 Basically, I would like, first of all, let's start with this. Judge the monologue.

Speaker 19 Absolutely. We can do that.

Speaker 18 We absolutely, like, it was so good

Speaker 18 that

Speaker 18 we definitely were listening to it back there.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 What were some of your favorite parts?

Speaker 2 I love it.

Speaker 18 I did get in the beginning.

Speaker 20 The middle was

Speaker 2 good. The middle was about 18 minutes.

Speaker 2 The middle was about 18 minutes.

Speaker 18 I liked that.

Speaker 19 And when you also, I loved your outfit.

Speaker 2 Oh.

Speaker 1 Thanks for saying that, Ram.

Speaker 2 Thanks for saying that.

Speaker 18 There's a lot of music in your monologues.

Speaker 21 Are you a musical artist?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm a musical artist.

Speaker 19 Yeah, there's a lot of clips too, but I didn't notice any familiar faces on any of the clips.

Speaker 19 Like any familiar faces.

Speaker 1 Like, yeah. Oh, I see, because it wasn't about you, is what you're saying.

Speaker 19 Right. So that's why we didn't.

Speaker 1 So lost your focus, lost your attention.

Speaker 19 Yeah. I'm so sorry.

Speaker 1 Well, that's. And I honestly respect that.

Speaker 1 And so let's do some practice judging.

Speaker 2 Okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 1 To get us ready for the rest of the show

Speaker 1 here in your courtroom in a segment we're calling calling you're under oath you're under eye

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Speaker 1 okay please pass judgment on target's pride neutrals oh

Speaker 2 so this is

Speaker 1 so this is part of targets pride collection uh it's uh sort of a kind of um oatmeal color if you look closely it says out in proud in very small letters

Speaker 1 But one might argue that in this case, the medium is the message.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 18 Yeah, listen, you know, we don't do Target anymore, unfortunately.

Speaker 18 But when we used to go to Target, I only went for their Pride Collection. And I have to say, this collection looks like it's beige for buy.

Speaker 18 I give it a 4 out of 10 if that wasn't clear. I hate it.

Speaker 19 I have bought and returned so many of the Target Pride Collection items over the year,

Speaker 22 years. Why'd you?

Speaker 18 Wait, why?

Speaker 19 Because they weren't cute.

Speaker 18 Then why'd you buy them to start?

Speaker 19 Well, I think they're cute in the store, and then I take them home and I try them on, and they're not cute anymore.

Speaker 18 You don't love yourself.

Speaker 19 That's true. I didn't when I was still going to Target, but now I'm on anti-anxiety medication, so Lexa, 20 milligrams a day.
Wow. And I love my, thank you so much.

Speaker 19 And I love myself a little bit more. So I'm going to say no thanks to that.
And then minus two.

Speaker 2 That was good.

Speaker 2 Negative two.

Speaker 1 Negative two.

Speaker 18 I saw a guy once, I don't know if this is the show for it, but I saw a guy jerking off in a Target once

Speaker 2 by the athletic wear.

Speaker 1 Well, he's probably working up. You want a sweat.
You want a wicking fabric.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely.

Speaker 2 You want to watch? You want to wicking fabric?

Speaker 2 For sure. Yeah.

Speaker 18 Don't say come.

Speaker 18 Don't say come on this podcast.

Speaker 2 Girlfriends. Oh.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Depressed.

Speaker 18 That's the same Selexa bitch. I recognize you.

Speaker 19 Are you mad at us?

Speaker 1 Not at even the littlest, but I'm very much enjoying this.

Speaker 2 Okay, good.

Speaker 1 I feel good about it. Do you feel good about it? Yeah.

Speaker 2 I felt good about it until Alexa now.

Speaker 19 I don't take Alexa Pros. She's on Prozac.
I'm on Selexa. Oh, sorry.
Because it sounds like my name, Alexa. Selexa.

Speaker 2 Oh, oh.

Speaker 18 I'm on Prozac.

Speaker 11 Yeah.

Speaker 18 And thank you. And Adderall.

Speaker 19 And she can't come anymore, so she doesn't need the moisture wicking. It's fine.

Speaker 2 True.

Speaker 18 But I'm on Truvada just in case.

Speaker 1 Great.

Speaker 18 Great. Thank you.

Speaker 1 Happy Pride.

Speaker 1 Next up, we have Ash and Chess's My Other They is a Them bumper sticker.

Speaker 2 Oh,

Speaker 1 wait.

Speaker 1 2023 Pride Collection was removed from some targets due to threats. Ash and chess have apparently quadrupled down on their queerness with their bumper sticker that reads, My Other They is a Them.

Speaker 1 I like it because I,

Speaker 2 what does it mean?

Speaker 1 My other they is a them.

Speaker 18 Are you asking what the bumper sticker means or what non-binary means?

Speaker 1 No, I know what non-binary means.

Speaker 18 I just found out and I love it.

Speaker 2 All for it. I love plurals, you know?

Speaker 18 What do you say, Alexis?

Speaker 19 I say minus one because of the font.

Speaker 1 Sure.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's a tough font.

Speaker 19 But I like the message. I feel like it's pro-Poly, polyamory.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's an interesting interpretation. Wow, this is a beautiful, rich text.
Wow. Because you're saying my other they is a them.
It's like my other they is in my other half is multiple people. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Is that what it means?

Speaker 2 To me. Maybe.

Speaker 1 Did anybody, I just read it as, I think the simplest down the middle interpretation is I'm a they and I'm with the they. Basically, my other they is a them.
Is that is that what I, how I read it?

Speaker 2 Oh, that no who asks.

Speaker 19 More sense.

Speaker 2 Why are we asking? Let people live their lives. First of all.
You're right.

Speaker 18 I love a funny bumper sticker. The like, don't honk at me or I'll cry.
I love that shit.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 18 But I don't want anyone to talk to me ever. And if you put a bumper sticker on your car, guess what's gonna happen? That depressed Alexa girl is gonna be like, I love it.

Speaker 18 You are.

Speaker 11 See, she's already given feedback.

Speaker 18 So I would say no on this bumper sticker, but yes on the sentiment.

Speaker 2 Okay. Non-binary price.

Speaker 1 Next up, we have the lesbian target birds and their U-Haul.

Speaker 2 Oh.

Speaker 2 I, yeah.

Speaker 1 What do we think?

Speaker 19 I've heard about these.

Speaker 2 Okay, yeah.

Speaker 18 Now, I also recently heard about lesbians, and so I know.

Speaker 18 No, okay, I'll tell you this. There's a lesbian in Costa Rica named Paula who does all of her social media.

Speaker 2 Hi, Paula.

Speaker 18 She's the sweetest, but she's also young. So I ask her if things are offensive.

Speaker 18 And I'll say, I thought the U-Haul thing may be a little like stereotypical offensive, but she responded, ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

Speaker 1 And was that in Spanish or English?

Speaker 18 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 I give it a five.

Speaker 19 When I moved here from Chicago three years ago,

Speaker 19 I drove with a friend, we're no longer speaking,

Speaker 19 in a U-Haul.

Speaker 19 And it was beautiful. The mountains of Colorado, the desert.

Speaker 2 Alexis, there's other guests.

Speaker 19 Okay, I said no.

Speaker 19 And I said minus three because there's three items on the screen.

Speaker 19 Actually, I'm mad at Target because I also loved going there and walking around for hours and spending money I didn't have and then asking her for money so I could have money.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 19 Paula, who does our social media, makes more than I do.

Speaker 18 She does.

Speaker 19 She does. So I do like those birds.
I like them too. But never enough to buy one.
I just like that they're there.

Speaker 1 What happened between Chicago and California that caused you to have such a falling out? Or was it when you got here?

Speaker 19 It was when I got here, but I will tell you that there was some kind of miscommunication with a truck driver and he, we passed him and he got mad at that.

Speaker 19 And so he came up and he threw quarters at us.

Speaker 1 Wow. It was very scary.
And did you do the dance or was it you just, it was, oh, it wasn't like for something.

Speaker 19 No, it was because he was mad at us that we passed him.

Speaker 18 The quarter did go down her top though so she did end up topless anyway but the guy was really thankful that's actually the start of thelma louise in a sense oh yeah and it was brad pitt in the semi next to yeah that's cool that's cool that's fun uh next up

Speaker 1 we have the human rights campaign trucker hat uh

Speaker 1 it says

Speaker 1 it's it has an eagle with talons that says these colors don't run. The feathers of the eagle, for those listening, are in the pride rainbow.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Including we have the kind of addition of the black, brown, turquoise, white, and pink on the tail feathers. Wow.
So that's interesting.

Speaker 2 It's an interesting eagle.

Speaker 1 It's an interesting eagle.

Speaker 18 Why do gay people get a whole month?

Speaker 18 That's what I think about when I see that hat.

Speaker 18 Maybe we shouldn't have rights, you know?

Speaker 2 I like it.

Speaker 11 I actually like it. What do you like about it?

Speaker 2 I like it too.

Speaker 1 So I like that we're taking the symbol back.

Speaker 2 Yeah, we're not letting you. Yes.
Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 We're not letting the conservative. Why do conservatives get eagles? I like the eagle.

Speaker 18 We took the rainbow from Christ.

Speaker 21 So that's pretty good.

Speaker 18 That's a big one.

Speaker 2 That's great.

Speaker 1 That's great. And that felt good.

Speaker 23 Yeah.

Speaker 18 It still feels good every day.

Speaker 19 I'm going to use this opportunity.

Speaker 19 I'm going to just brag for a little bit and say that I recently went on a cruise to Alaska. Thank you.

Speaker 19 And I saw a bunch of real eagles there. And did you know that in eagle relationships, males and females,

Speaker 19 if the female dies, the male will just starve himself and then die as well. But if the male dies, the female will go find another partner.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 19 Yeah. So I'm plus five for this.

Speaker 2 What do you like about it, honestly?

Speaker 1 What do I like about it? I just want the, I don't like the idea that conservatives got the flag, patriotism, all those things.

Speaker 1 I want those things. They're useful.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 They're useful.

Speaker 1 Absolutely. They made, you know, those are, that's our eagle.

Speaker 2 There's a gayer bird, though. You could do peacock.
Oh, hummingbirds.

Speaker 18 Hummingbirds, they're mean. They're cute, but they're mean.
That's gay.

Speaker 19 Someone just yelled geese.

Speaker 18 Oh, God, it's Selexa.

Speaker 2 Benjamin Franklin. Celexa, quiet down.

Speaker 1 Franklin wanted our national bird to be the turkey.

Speaker 2 Oh, he did. Yeah, he did.
That's a great thing. They're smart.
They're smart.

Speaker 18 I stopped eating them a couple years ago because I found out they were highly emotionally intelligent and I felt bad. Yeah.

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 18 I started eating them again.

Speaker 1 I once went out to dinner after watching my octopus teacher.

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 1 They had a special.

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 19 On teachers? That's a no.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was fresh caught teacher.

Speaker 2 Oh, wow.

Speaker 19 My octopus teacher is a film.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 19 Okay, I thought you just had an octopus teacher.

Speaker 19 I was worried that there was a course I missed.

Speaker 18 Don't encourage it.

Speaker 1 Hey, everybody. Before I move on, I just want to say everybody should check out Darby and Alexis's fantastic podcast, In My Homosexual Opinion.

Speaker 19 Thank you so much.

Speaker 1 And you'll be judging all as we go. You're just there to judge.

Speaker 2 Very

Speaker 2 changing about that.

Speaker 18 Can I hit the stage for a moment?

Speaker 2 Quiet trans voices.

Speaker 18 John, I have a twin brother who is straight. So I've always not been as good as him because God made a mistake with the whole gay thing.

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 18 this is his favorite podcast.

Speaker 18 And he's not on it, and I am.

Speaker 18 Wow.

Speaker 18 I hope smelling your pussy fingers is worth it.

Speaker 11 I don't know what straight guys do. I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 1 Really? Your brother's favorite podcast? Yeah, truly.

Speaker 2 Grant. Grant? Yeah.
Where does he live?

Speaker 18 He lives in Orlando. Don't judge him for that.
So my twin brother, he was a pastor for 20 years. We were not friends.

Speaker 18 He left the church and now he's gay affirming and very liberal and like, oops, sorry, I made a lot of mistakes.

Speaker 18 And so, and we have a podcast called Twin You Window where we talk about our childhood and he remembers it very differently than I do.

Speaker 2 That's so interesting.

Speaker 18 Thank you.

Speaker 2 We'll be right back.

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Speaker 1 It's the Love It or Leave It Pride Show, and just like Pride Month itself, we're somehow doing way too much and not enough. It wouldn't be a rainbow without all the colors.

Speaker 1 So, please welcome to the stage. It's Joe Kim Booster, Adam Ripon, Brendan Scannell, Sabrina Wu, and the iconic Claya Duval.

Speaker 1 Hi, Clone.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay, sit there because you'll be a team. Because you'll be a team.

Speaker 2 Okay, that's great. Thank you, Sam.
That's perfect.

Speaker 2 Oh, wow.

Speaker 1 Oh, I forgot that I have to sit in this.

Speaker 2 Oh, shit.

Speaker 25 Cross your legs, John.

Speaker 26 Basic instinct, the audience.

Speaker 1 See, my Tommy's.

Speaker 2 Side saddle.

Speaker 1 Side saddle. And I'm sitting.

Speaker 1 Didn't make sense. Okay.
Hi, everybody. Hi.
Thank you all for being here. What a fun group.
Adam, you're so far from me.

Speaker 22 I know, but I have direct line of sight to you, which is ideal.

Speaker 1 Nice. Thank you for saying that.

Speaker 2 What?

Speaker 7 Thank you.

Speaker 1 Do you want to say it to the class?

Speaker 23 Oh, yeah. I leaned over to Cleo.

Speaker 19 I said, oh, you're so tall.

Speaker 28 And then I said, I'll scooch down.

Speaker 5 That's like they have their own language.

Speaker 2 It's crazy.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 many people use this month to immerse themselves in queer art. For example, I just finished all of Real Housewives of New York.

Speaker 20 What was your favorite season?

Speaker 1 Well, favorite season, I mean, I mean, Scary Island, come on.

Speaker 1 I love, I mean, the true most breathtaking thing in Real House has of New York is there is not a scripted HBO drama that has the slow, meted-out plotline of Luann De La Seps writing a book about class in season one, and inch by inch, she arrives as if it was inevitable, eating a bologna sandwich in jail,

Speaker 1 realizing she bit the mustard packet

Speaker 1 in season 10. You can't find that transition in 9876543 or 2.

Speaker 1 But there it is. Imperceptible, magical.

Speaker 27 Listen, people don't want to accept this, but it is like if you want to see like interesting narratives about women over 50, there's only one place on television you're going to get it.

Speaker 2 And it's Bravo!

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Plus whatever's happening on and just like that.

Speaker 1 And I don't know what is. I don't actually know what's happening on and just like that.

Speaker 23 But you know, they're doing amazing things with non-binary people.

Speaker 2 Either way.

Speaker 11 Your community really took a blow.

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 23 No, I think we finally became a part of the Zeitgeist.

Speaker 18 Well said, Che Diaz.

Speaker 23 Me, Che Diaz.

Speaker 2 Exactly.

Speaker 23 In honor. I was fucking the.

Speaker 2 Okay, sorry.

Speaker 1 No, finish your thought.

Speaker 23 And I've watched the the show.

Speaker 23 I'm fucking Miranda or Julia. Who's Rude Julia Roberts?

Speaker 2 Julia Roberts. Julia Roberts.
Julia Roberts.

Speaker 1 I got to check back in.

Speaker 28 I think she's on.

Speaker 23 I'm so, I can't believe we're being quizzed on like Sarah.

Speaker 2 What about

Speaker 23 Julia Roberts?

Speaker 2 Probably not.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 2 Sarah Jessica. She was Sarah Jessica Parker.

Speaker 20 Oh, her sister, Sarah Jessica.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Yes.
I'm fingering a blonde woman.

Speaker 23 Wow. Three fingers in.
That's...

Speaker 2 Okay, and get off, Darvin.

Speaker 18 This is why Shade Diaz got a pilot.

Speaker 23 Thank you for having me on the show.

Speaker 23 If anyone wants to tell me what Shea Diaz's vibe is, like, just help me out.

Speaker 28 I feel like you nailed it. You're nailing it.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 23 What does Chey Diaz do butt bomb on stage?

Speaker 18 I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 I'm really enjoying the vibe.

Speaker 2 Hi, Claya. Hi.
Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you, too.

Speaker 1 Remember the faculty?

Speaker 19 Of course.

Speaker 2 Spooky. Very.

Speaker 10 Tense.

Speaker 1 In honor of pride, we're going to do what we do best, pit different parts of the flag against each other as the gay guys ass off against the queers and lesbos.

Speaker 1 In a TV and film quiz, we're calling, but I'm a brokeback mountain cheerleader.

Speaker 1 I'm a Cheerleader is like a seminal text for all of the bisexuals and

Speaker 1 lesbians at Crooked Media.

Speaker 2 Oh, really? Yeah.

Speaker 1 And they've shown it to all of their boyfriends.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Got them.

Speaker 1 Clay and Sabrina, you will square off against Joel, Brendan, and Adam because you two are equal to three gay guys just in terms of worth and strength.

Speaker 3 Yes.

Speaker 25 And Adam and I are white gay guys. So I just want to point that out.

Speaker 11 We're in the negatives over here.

Speaker 2 Starting at a deficit.

Speaker 23 Why are they gay guys in War Two slurs? Like, why are we queer in Leslow and they're just gay guys?

Speaker 1 That's such an important point. I have been completely disrespectful by not calling them what they are, which are just fucking cum guzzling fags.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 1 Thank you.

Speaker 1 And so I honor that.

Speaker 2 I hear it. I receive it.

Speaker 1 Happy pride.

Speaker 1 I'm listening. I'm learning.
I'm growing.

Speaker 27 I love that you achieved parody, not by giving them an honorific that was not a slur, but just by bringing us down to it.

Speaker 2 That idea had not occurred to me.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Darby and Alexis will be our judges and will keep track of the score for us.

Speaker 2 Oh, that's why we have these.

Speaker 1 And where are we at so far, points-wise?

Speaker 22 Okay.

Speaker 18 Apparently, we're it's neck and neck.

Speaker 1 All right. First up, what Ryan Murphy TV series featured gay couple Kurt Hummel and Blaine Anderson? Kurt Hummel and Blaine Anderson.

Speaker 21 This can't be Ryan.

Speaker 22 Oh, you don't want to see what they're mouthing.

Speaker 1 This is crazy. What?

Speaker 2 Come on.

Speaker 1 You don't know this?

Speaker 23 I barely know who Julia Roberts is.

Speaker 20 Wait, say the names again?

Speaker 1 Kurt Hummel and Blaine Anderson.

Speaker 21 You don't know their names are not going to help.

Speaker 2 You don't.

Speaker 1 I mean, honestly, like, the fact that Kurt Hummel isn't lighting a bell is just a fascinating moment for us.

Speaker 23 Yeah.

Speaker 2 This can't be real.

Speaker 23 Can we guess like three Ryan Murphy shows? All right.

Speaker 19 I think you should start.

Speaker 2 This is crazy.

Speaker 28 Suddenly, I can't think of one Ryan Murphy show.

Speaker 2 Oh, my God.

Speaker 23 Wait, wait, no, no. Yeah, I can think of a- wait, will you, uh, okay, is it the politician?

Speaker 1 No!

Speaker 2 You're out! I'm fucking glee!

Speaker 1 It's glee!

Speaker 2 I've never seen glee.

Speaker 18 Wow.

Speaker 2 Oh, my God. Oh, I know.
Oh, just wait for your question.

Speaker 20 I don't feel nervous anymore.

Speaker 18 How did you know you were gay if you've never seen glee?

Speaker 2 I'm a lesbian.

Speaker 5 How did you know the courage to come out?

Speaker 23 I became sexually attracted to tales from Sonic the Hedgehog.

Speaker 23 And that kind of did it for me.

Speaker 2 And I was first sexually attracted to stormtroopers

Speaker 28 from the original Star Wars. I'm much older than you guys.

Speaker 2 Wow. Unpack that.

Speaker 28 You know, I think about it a lot, and I think that because they were just these sort of like strong, genderless, like anonymous

Speaker 2 beings

Speaker 28 that were very in control.

Speaker 2 Like a glory hole.

Speaker 2 Yeah, they're fucked.

Speaker 1 Honestly, I get it. I get it.
I get it. Over to the gay guys.

Speaker 2 Woo!

Speaker 1 Who plays camp counselor Mike in But I'm a Cheerleader, starring the incomparable Clay Duval and also Natasha Leone.

Speaker 1 Who plays the camp counselor?

Speaker 22 Did you ask us the first question instead?

Speaker 2 That was for this. This is really easy.

Speaker 23 See? Damn, you guys are dumb as fuck.

Speaker 27 It's hard because I only remember the women in any movie.

Speaker 25 Yeah, asking of us about the man. As gay guys, we don't see ourselves in men.

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 2 What?

Speaker 5 I don't identify

Speaker 25 with gay men in film.

Speaker 11 No, I identify with Tony Collette.

Speaker 23 Okay.

Speaker 2 Skim Counselor Mike.

Speaker 27 Who is the man in that movie?

Speaker 11 Who is the man?

Speaker 22 What is the movie again? What?

Speaker 2 What?

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 2 The answer. That is crazy.
RuPaul.

Speaker 2 Oh, that's tricky because I should have. Who's that?

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 1 It's zero. Oh.

Speaker 18 I gave, I renamed them Ciclea.

Speaker 2 Oh, Ciclea. Okay.

Speaker 19 I gave you 11 points for not knowing about glee.

Speaker 2 And then

Speaker 19 I gave you nine points because of tails, because that does sound sexy to me.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I think Sega got a lot of people.

Speaker 28 I don't know what Tails is.

Speaker 1 I'm saying Sega got a lot of people.

Speaker 27 You know, because there's a Sega Genesis game, and he's a fox that can fly by spinning his many tails.

Speaker 18 It's like Star Wars.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 1 In the movie Broke Back Mountain, Jake Gyllenhaal tells Heath Ledger he wishes he knew how to what?

Speaker 2 Quit. Quit yet.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you got it.

Speaker 1 Next up, Corky and Violet are the protagonists in what? 1996 lesbian neon noir from the Wakowski Sisters.

Speaker 1 I love how much

Speaker 1 the theory of this game is working because

Speaker 1 player just fucking knows it.

Speaker 2 He's like, yeah.

Speaker 1 And you, it's nothing. That's so interesting.

Speaker 2 Isn't this interesting?

Speaker 26 Say it again.

Speaker 11 Who are the names?

Speaker 23 The Wachowski Sisters.

Speaker 26 No, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 The character sisters. Corky and Violet.
In 1996, lesbian neon noir from the Wakowski sisters.

Speaker 27 I only know one Corky, and he was on TV.

Speaker 25 I only know Corky Romano with Chris Katash.

Speaker 27 Yeah.

Speaker 28 You could have just said Corky, and I would have known.

Speaker 1 Wow. You want to tell them?

Speaker 2 Bound.

Speaker 11 Oh, Jennifer Tilly, right?

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 28 Jennifer Tilly, yeah.

Speaker 2 Gina Green. Yeah.

Speaker 2 All right.

Speaker 1 Back over to Cecleia.

Speaker 1 In Luca Guadengino. Nope.
Guadanino. Guadenino? And call me by your name.

Speaker 2 Timothy Chamolet. What?

Speaker 28 Is it the answer peach? Yes.

Speaker 2 Wow.

Speaker 2 Wow. Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 That is impressive. That is impressive.
I'm blown away. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Back over to the boys, well behind.

Speaker 1 What was the title of the L-word reboot, which ran from 2019 to 2022?

Speaker 2 I know this. Take it away.

Speaker 1 L-Word Generation Cube.

Speaker 2 You got it. You got it.

Speaker 2 That ran for how many seasons?

Speaker 1 It's, I think, four years. I don't know how many seasons they got out of this season.

Speaker 27 I recently had someone stop me on the street and say that they loved me in L-Word Generation Cube.

Speaker 5 I am not in El Ward Generation Q.

Speaker 27 There is a lovely trans male actor that is in Generation Q that they were confusing me for.

Speaker 18 What did you say?

Speaker 26 I said, thank you so much.

Speaker 7 Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's nice to be recognized.

Speaker 1 In a 2022 gay classic, the main character, Noah, refers to the setting as Gay Disney World. What is that setting, which is also the name of the film?

Speaker 2 We steal.

Speaker 3 I think it's Fire Island. You got it.

Speaker 2 Wow.

Speaker 11 They wouldn't have gotten it otherwise, though.

Speaker 26 I guess they don't have Hulu subscriptions.

Speaker 2 No, I did. I saw the movie.

Speaker 11 You sent me a really nice message about it, too.

Speaker 1 Wow, that's classy. You got to tell people when you like their stuff.
I don't do that enough. Next up.

Speaker 1 In her culture-changing 90s sitcom Ellen, Ellen DeGeneres blurts out her sexuality in an an airport to which beloved actress?

Speaker 2 Laura Dern. Correct.

Speaker 1 Susan,

Speaker 21 I'm gay.

Speaker 1 It was at the airport.

Speaker 20 And she did it into the microphone.

Speaker 1 I love that. I watched that live.
Anybody else watched that live? I did. Yeah, I watched that live.
It was very meaningful to me. And I didn't know it was meaningful to me.

Speaker 1 I didn't realize how much because it wasn't until years later because I was in the closet when I saw it. And then I saw Ellen getting the Medal of Honor from President Obama.
I'm sobbing.

Speaker 1 I'm like, What's this about? I never talked about it

Speaker 28 until just now.

Speaker 1 No, no, I've talked about it since. I talk about everything all the time now.
But back then, I was in the closet. I see Ellen.
It means a lot to me. I don't say a word about it.
Years go by.

Speaker 1 I come out. Ellen gets the Medal of Honor.
I'm sobbing. Oh my God, this was important to me, but it was a secret at the time.
That's just my, you know, and then apparently she's mean.

Speaker 2 The world's a complicated world. Where should women be mean?

Speaker 2 I agree.

Speaker 2 Okay, never mind.

Speaker 3 I'll back off.

Speaker 1 In the Christmas rom-com Happiest Season, directed by Clay Duvall, Kristen Stewart ends up with Mackenzie Davis, but some fans screamed and begged and pleaded that she should have gone.

Speaker 11 Aubrey Plaza.

Speaker 11 That's crappy.

Speaker 2 Should have gone. I was one of them.

Speaker 1 That's what my card says.

Speaker 1 I was one of them.

Speaker 1 Is that not a thing?

Speaker 1 You're not familiar with it.

Speaker 2 No, I'm very familiar with it.

Speaker 1 Was that a big thing at the time? People were really mad that that didn't end the way that you did.

Speaker 27 It's educating the lesbian community.

Speaker 2 Wow.

Speaker 2 Wow. That was hard for me.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 7 Sabrina, is there any?

Speaker 7 Do you want to talk about it? No, no, no, no.

Speaker 23 I'm in front of you.

Speaker 1 Just like on Reddit and stuff?

Speaker 23 Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah.
All of it you can do.

Speaker 2 You should check out her letterbox reviews.

Speaker 18 John. John, I'm sorry to interrupt, but we have a development.
We are currently at a tie.

Speaker 2 Wow.

Speaker 3 We are currently at a tie.

Speaker 1 We are at a tie.

Speaker 19 Yeah, and Claya got eight points extra for knowing about the peach because eight is kind of a butt, but sideways.

Speaker 2 Can we turn her mic off?

Speaker 19 But you got three points.

Speaker 1 You got three. I got three points?

Speaker 19 Yeah, for your Ellen story. That touched me.

Speaker 1 Oh, thank you. Thank you for saying that.

Speaker 2 You're welcome.

Speaker 1 Thank you for giving me points.

Speaker 1 Next up.

Speaker 1 In 2017, presenters Warren Beatty and Faye Dunaway accidentally announced Lala Land as winner of Best Picture. What gay black coming-of-age drama actually won that year?

Speaker 23 Oh, I can say it.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Moonlight. Hell yeah.

Speaker 19 So

Speaker 1 I'm going to go right to another one.

Speaker 1 Name all three leads in the film Too Wong Fu. Thanks for everything.

Speaker 1 Julie Newmar.

Speaker 1 The actors? The actors.

Speaker 2 Oh, the actors, yeah.

Speaker 23 We're talking about the you, like,

Speaker 1 the movie. Too wong fu, thanks for everything, Julie Newmar.

Speaker 2 Well,

Speaker 2 do you have it?

Speaker 1 Do you guys have it? You think you have it?

Speaker 5 Isn't that interesting?

Speaker 1 Yeah. They have it.

Speaker 28 Well, it's Patrick Swayze, isn't it, right? Correct. Yeah.

Speaker 28 Wesley Snipes.

Speaker 18 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Fucking unbelievable. Just

Speaker 1 a cheating lesbian in the crowd.

Speaker 1 Just a...

Speaker 1 Just a unscrupulous, non-binary person in the audience. They, them, don't follow the rules.

Speaker 28 Can we just have just some silence so I can really concentrate?

Speaker 28 John Megazama.

Speaker 2 Wow.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 2 All right.

Speaker 1 I'll do one more because I do love this question, which is:

Speaker 2 Is this podcast new?

Speaker 20 It is. That sucks.

Speaker 22 It's sort of an, it's, it's,

Speaker 2 that's,

Speaker 1 believe it or not, I've done this hundreds of times.

Speaker 2 Oh, okay.

Speaker 27 It's sort of an indictment on the industry right now that literally every lesbian movie you've quizzed us on other than happiest season was not from this century.

Speaker 27 Yeah, what's that about, John?

Speaker 1 I'm in charge and I don't let the lesbians make stuff anymore.

Speaker 1 That's how we did it.

Speaker 1 In an iconic scene from John Wanner's movie, Pink Flamingos, Babs Johnson, played by drag legend Divine, is asked her political beliefs. Can you name one of those beliefs?

Speaker 1 I'll let it open up to anybody. Can anyone name one of those beliefs?

Speaker 2 She.

Speaker 22 And it's a good one.

Speaker 22 It was like

Speaker 22 eat something, right?

Speaker 2 Eat. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 1 Yes. You're getting it.
Eat. Eat.

Speaker 2 You're sick of it. So she'll die, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'll give it to you. I'll give it to you.

Speaker 22 Yeah, we'll go with that.

Speaker 1 Let's eat shit and die. Let's watch the clip.
Kill everyone now.

Speaker 9 Condone first-degree murder. Advocate cannibalism.
Eat shit. Filter my politics.
Filth is my life.

Speaker 1 What's our score at?

Speaker 18 Okay, okay. Hers is made up.
Go ahead.

Speaker 19 So, Saklea is actually sitting with 100 points.

Speaker 2 Wow.

Speaker 22 It's incredible.

Speaker 2 Incredible.

Speaker 19 I put just the gay gentleman got

Speaker 19 11,100.

Speaker 2 Five. They have five.
Five points.

Speaker 19 John Lovett has three points, and the unscrupulous they them has two.

Speaker 1 Wow, way to go.

Speaker 1 I'm going to call it a tie. I think it was just a tie.

Speaker 1 But I'm going to give it to ciclaya i'm just gonna that's that i'm gonna tie break it uh

Speaker 2 oh no my nail we'll be right back

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Speaker 18 Uh-uh, that's no, this is what my brother said it would be like.

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Speaker 1 And we could think of no better way to close out the night than by taking a spin on the Love It or Leave It Classic in a segment we're calling the Pride Wheel.

Speaker 1 We'll spin the wheel, and when it lands on us, we'll each share one thing, gay or not, pride-related or not, that we're proud of.

Speaker 1 Are you guys ready?

Speaker 18 Yes. Yes, queen.
Yeah. Work.
Mama's sleigh.

Speaker 2 Boots.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 1 Let's spin it.

Speaker 1 It has landed on Darby. Oh, shit.
Okay. Darby, what is something you're proud of? It could be anything.

Speaker 2 Okay. And you have a minute.

Speaker 18 Okay, great. Thank you so much.
Starting now? Sure.

Speaker 18 Okay, first of all, I just lost a nail in the middle of that. That's homophobic.

Speaker 18 But that's okay. That's what pride's all about, is facing those things head-on.
Speaking of, my dad got so constipated that he was in so much pain, he passed out while on the toilet.

Speaker 18 And then when he woke up on the ground, he had shit all over himself.

Speaker 18 So I'm proud of the fact that his constipation, we found out, was psychological.

Speaker 18 He's a very homophobic man.

Speaker 18 And his mind won't let him shit.

Speaker 2 Sorry.

Speaker 1 That's a true story.

Speaker 1 That was so beautiful. I thought that was like a poignant and beautiful story.

Speaker 18 Thank you. Thank you.

Speaker 1 Isn't that how Elvis died? Didn't Elvis die in the toilet?

Speaker 18 He did. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I'm hoping the same happens to my dad.

Speaker 2 Sorry.

Speaker 2 he's so bad y'all okay

Speaker 1 let's spin it again

Speaker 1 it is landlord alexis oh hi

Speaker 19 okay i have been rehearsing this all day i'm not just saying it because it came up earlier but i am proud most this year of Sarah Jessica Parker.

Speaker 19 She wears a hat in the the new season of and just like that that truly reminds me to be bold and express myself in a way that's authentic to me, which is wacky and whimsical. And just like hat.

Speaker 19 By Miriam Camey, I too want to go out into the world and and be as brave and authentic as she is. Thank you, Sarah Jessica.

Speaker 1 That's beautiful.

Speaker 1 That's so beautiful.

Speaker 1 I thought that was beautiful.

Speaker 2 Thank you.

Speaker 1 10 out of 10. All right, let's spin it again.

Speaker 1 It has landed on Brendan. What's something you're proud of, Brendan?

Speaker 25 I'm proud that

Speaker 27 this Pride

Speaker 25 is also my six-year anniversary with my boyfriend.

Speaker 25 We met on Pride at a party and his shirt was off and we started talking about how he had had laser hair removal to remove the hair on his back.

Speaker 25 And I was like, I've had laser hair removal to remove the hair on my neck because of my acne.

Speaker 25 And then

Speaker 25 the next day I DM'd him. Hey, if you ever want to talk more about laser hair removal, I'd love to get you a drink.

Speaker 25 And now we've been together six years.

Speaker 11 So that's a message to all you single losers out there. This Pride

Speaker 1 just talk to somebody.

Speaker 1 Just talk to somebody. And Brennan, you're hosting

Speaker 1 What I Do Weird. Oh, you got a 69.

Speaker 19 It's a 6G.

Speaker 18 Way to come to life at the end of the episode.

Speaker 2 She says, crying.

Speaker 1 Brendan is hosting the show Three's comedy this Monday, June 9th at Nico's Atwater.

Speaker 25 That means I have nothing to promote.

Speaker 25 But you should all come.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Let's spin it again.

Speaker 1 It It has landed on Joel.

Speaker 27 Yeah, this is, I guess it's been two and a half, almost three weeks now since I have looked at a comment or jumped into the comments or looked at the reviews of my podcast or looked at the letterbox reviews of my movie.

Speaker 27 I have completely let go because my life is actually pretty great when I'm not looking at my phone. And I know all six reasons why people hate me.
So

Speaker 27 it really doesn't deviate from six different buckets.

Speaker 27 And it's just not interesting to look at anymore. So I guess I'm like not so much of a mascus anymore, but I'm very proud of myself for that because it's difficult.

Speaker 27 If you knew a bunch of people were talking about you, wouldn't you want to know what they're saying? And it turns out I don't now.

Speaker 27 So that's a real growth moment for me.

Speaker 21 What's one of the buckets?

Speaker 27 One of the buckets is I'm a bad representation for the community.

Speaker 2 Bullshit. Yeah.
No, they do. I love your body.

Speaker 5 and I talk about it. They don't like that.

Speaker 27 Some people.

Speaker 1 Do you find, so I go back and forth of ignoring successfully, then not ignoring successfully, which I

Speaker 1 mean I'm able to look at things and not have them get to me.

Speaker 1 But I find that I'm okay until I see a comment that I agree with.

Speaker 27 Yeah, no, that is the tough, that is the tough thing. I will say I'm okay until, like, someone recently on threads of of all places

Speaker 27 referred to my partner as a psychopath, which if you've ever met him and spoken to him for more than five minutes, you'd know that is a ridiculous thing to say.

Speaker 27 And I get really heated when it comes to my friends and family. So I definitely,

Speaker 27 I don't know if he's on threads anymore.

Speaker 2 I wrote that, actually.

Speaker 1 We talked about video games. It was nothing but sweet.
I get no sociopath vibes. No, he's the sweetest boy.
Yeah.

Speaker 25 I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 And Adam, sorry.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And Joel, you are hosting Bravo's Love Hotel

Speaker 1 and season two of the Bad Dates podcast.

Speaker 1 And you're in Loot.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 27 And that'll come out later on this year.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's cool. On Apple TV.

Speaker 1 The plus is for the shows they make.

Speaker 1 Let's spin it again.

Speaker 2 Claire, you're up. Okay.

Speaker 1 What's something you're proud of?

Speaker 28 I'm proud that I don't know what threads is.

Speaker 28 But aside from that, aside from that, you know, I'm going to,

Speaker 28 I'm really proud that I am here with all of you and am like an out

Speaker 28 grown-up who has a life that I'm really happy with because when I was like a little kid who was too scared to be out, I never thought that I could have this. And I do.

Speaker 2 I'm so happy and proud.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, that's like a nice thing to say. I don't think it's as poignant as what Darby said about her dad shitting on the ground, but

Speaker 18 I did think that would happen when I was a kid.

Speaker 2 I did.

Speaker 18 I did.

Speaker 1 But, you know, that's what Pride's all about. Let's spin again.

Speaker 1 Sabrina, what's something

Speaker 7 you're proud of?

Speaker 23 Okay, I'm not proud of much. I'm just going to list little things that I'm sort of proud of.

Speaker 2 Is that fine? Yeah.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 I'm proud of my mom.

Speaker 23 I'm proud of Susan Boyle.

Speaker 23 I'm still proud of what she did.

Speaker 23 Okay. Oh, oh,

Speaker 23 I'm like legit learning to, I'm not, I don't hate being Asian, but like being in, I'm like, I'm usually in New York. I'm in SoCal and like, I am like, the Asian people here are so happy and proud.

Speaker 23 It like breaks my brain because like I grew up in Michigan and like, growing up, I was still very like, oh, like everyone hates the way my food smells.

Speaker 23 And then the SoCal Asians here, like, they're all just like, what's up? I'm Asian.

Speaker 2 I'm also.

Speaker 2 Well,

Speaker 23 you're so bad for our community.

Speaker 23 I was gonna say something so wholesome, like, I'm Asian and I'm also in the Jabbawockies.

Speaker 23 We love to dance here and like be in community and drink boba. So I don't know.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 I love that.

Speaker 1 Those were, I got a little bit of the moves.

Speaker 2 It was cool. Oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Are you, how proud are you?

Speaker 1 Can this be online?

Speaker 1 It has to be. It has to be.

Speaker 1 It simply has to be.

Speaker 23 I think I'm the stupidest guest you've ever had.

Speaker 2 Oh, you've been a bitch.

Speaker 25 For the guests listening, Sabrina just mime sucking a dick.

Speaker 5 After doing an incredible body roll.

Speaker 27 So,

Speaker 2 they are, that was, you're a Japperwalkie.

Speaker 1 That was cool as huh.

Speaker 2 All right, thanks, thanks.

Speaker 1 Sabrina is currently starring in Murderbot, now streaming on Apple TV Plus.

Speaker 2 So good.

Speaker 1 Plus, stands for the show that they make.

Speaker 1 And Clay, you directed directed an episode of Poker Face.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I did.

Speaker 1 That's on Peacock, where the housewives live.

Speaker 19 Yes.

Speaker 2 And Love Hotel.

Speaker 1 Beacock.

Speaker 1 It's from NBC, but the bird is for the shows you can only get

Speaker 2 there.

Speaker 18 You okay, buddy?

Speaker 2 No, I'm all right. Okay.
Just checking.

Speaker 2 I think people are having fun, right?

Speaker 18 Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 2 We brought up Susan Boyle. I'm good.

Speaker 1 If you go back and watch the Susan Boyle video, it is shocking because the whole premise of it is like, she can't sing good. Because she's ugly.

Speaker 1 Because she doesn't look like what we want her to look like. It's wild.
And everyone in the audience freaks out. And it's like, we have a terrible bias about looks.

Speaker 22 I cried watching the Susan Boyle video recently.

Speaker 20 So

Speaker 20 when you said that, I went, yeah, I get it.

Speaker 18 We acted as if she had been bitten by a radioactive spider that gave her the ability to sing instead of the fact that she was just a lady.

Speaker 25 They also, like, when her, they did her makeover, but she's, it's so British where it's like,

Speaker 25 they do weird stuff over there, beauty-wise.

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 1 I agree.

Speaker 1 Weird place.

Speaker 1 I'm glad we left. Even now, looking back, I'm glad.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Especially now. All right, let's spin it again.

Speaker 1 Yeah, who's we, by the way?

Speaker 1 Well, it wasn't me. My people were in the schedule.

Speaker 1 Adam, it's landed on you. What's something you're proud of?

Speaker 22 I'm proud to be here tonight with some of my closest friends on this ruggable.

Speaker 22 I know it's a rugged ball.

Speaker 22 And I was proud to know the answer to the glee question.

Speaker 22 And then I was also really proud that nobody could hear the rattling of two marbles inside my brain of every other question that happened after that.

Speaker 22 And so I actually was really proud of that. And now that I know that it's honorable, I'm proud that I had the hair on my neck lasered off, too.

Speaker 2 Right? Yes.

Speaker 1 That's so cool. You got to tell me where to do that.

Speaker 18 Thank you. Oh, my God.

Speaker 2 Thank you. Oh.

Speaker 1 Oh, it's a medal. Yeah.
It's a medal.

Speaker 18 Backstage, we were talking about our first jobs, and Adam goes, I didn't really have a first job.

Speaker 2 I'm a figure skater.

Speaker 2 We had no idea.

Speaker 20 That was my job. Yeah.

Speaker 22 But it wasn't like working at Dippin' Dots. Like, that's what they were.
talking about Joel working.

Speaker 2 That's fired at Joel.

Speaker 2 No, but I, Joel and I, you know, I write the mean comments comments on threads.

Speaker 20 I bring this up.

Speaker 2 Save that for threads.

Speaker 1 You were at Coldstone?

Speaker 27 Well, I got fired from the Dippin' Dots stand and then moved immediately to Coldstone.

Speaker 1 Which is actually,

Speaker 1 you'd think you'd go from Coldstones down to Dippin' Dots. Because Coldstones is really, it's kind of an arch.

Speaker 27 It's the underground railroad for gay teens in the suburbs.

Speaker 2 Wow.

Speaker 2 Wow.

Speaker 1 I had never thought about it like that.

Speaker 1 But I see how it's 100% right.

Speaker 7 and incontrovertible.

Speaker 1 Wait, Adam, tell me about it. I threw the card down with your podcast information.

Speaker 22 So I have a new podcast. It's called Intrusive Thoughts.
Yeah, Intrusive Thoughts. Intrusive Thoughts.

Speaker 1 I saw that that's what it said.

Speaker 22 Yeah, it's like Love It or Leave It if you're stupid. It's like,

Speaker 20 oh, it's okay. Thank you.

Speaker 22 And the run-through, too, if you like figure skating, I have another figure skating.

Speaker 2 Are you a figure skater?

Speaker 22 I did mention it backstage.

Speaker 2 Oh, there you go. Okay.

Speaker 2 Sure.

Speaker 1 I have intrusive thoughts.

Speaker 18 Please come on

Speaker 2 to see that.

Speaker 1 Every time, if I'll tell you one of them, just to give you a window of what's going on inside here, which is if I'm on the phone with a friend and their phone cuts out, I think 9-11 is happening and that a plane has hit their building.

Speaker 1 It's crazy. Or it's a collapse or it's an earthquake.
I'm getting the clock.

Speaker 22 Not that just the 5G went away.

Speaker 1 No, it's that something horrible has happened. And if I can't get them back right away, I'm like, well, that's it.
That building went down.

Speaker 1 That pancaked like after what happened to that building in the North Ridge one. And that's that.
That's that.

Speaker 2 What's your reaction to it, though?

Speaker 18 How do you feel?

Speaker 1 I feel very scared.

Speaker 2 Oh, I wasn't sure. I don't know you that well.

Speaker 19 You should try Selexa 20 milligrams a day.

Speaker 2 It's really good.

Speaker 11 Do you always think, like, oh, George W.

Speaker 27 Bush is at it again?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, I wonder what jet fuel can and cannot melt.

Speaker 3 Didn't you work in the Bush administration?

Speaker 1 No, the Obama administration. God damn it.
Let's spin it one more time.

Speaker 2 No way.

Speaker 1 Hey, everybody.

Speaker 1 It's landed on me, and I'll just say, you know,

Speaker 1 I would like to take a moment to just say that, like, I am,

Speaker 1 this is a really dark time.

Speaker 1 And I think we should take a moment to be proud of ourselves just for getting through it and staying involved in politics, still caring about politics, believing we can make a difference in politics.

Speaker 1 That can be a really hard thing to do at times.

Speaker 1 I think there was moments when it wasn't clear that that was going to happen, especially in the initial crush of Trump winning and the first few weeks of that moment where people weren't sure how quickly and how bad it would get, and if people were going to be willing to fight back, but we've started to see people showing up more and more at protests.

Speaker 1 We've started seeing not just like individuals, but organizations, companies, schools being willing to push back, which is what has to happen.

Speaker 1 And it's going to be a really long fight, and we're going to win some and we're going to lose some.

Speaker 1 But I'm just very grateful for all the people that have shown up when we've been campaigning for judges in Wisconsin and when we've been

Speaker 1 making calls right now to stop this bill.

Speaker 1 I'm excited to see all the people this weekend that come out as part of these uh the protests we're doing uh for pride in DC, which I have to go to immediately. Uh

Speaker 1 but I really like you know people say all the time to us like oh, how do you guys stay up? Like they say in a way like how do you guys met like how do you keep up with the news?

Speaker 1 How do you pay attention to the news all the time? And I always feel weird when I get asked that question because it's like I'm like incredibly like, are you kidding me?

Speaker 1 Like none of them fucking mind. Like I read the news.
It's bad.

Speaker 1 I get to talk about it, but it's all palatable and possible because we have an incredible audience that has stayed with us for so many years. So I feel very grateful to you, this pride.

Speaker 1 And I'll close by only saying that I'm also grateful that my intrusive thoughts have gone from will good things happen to will the good things that have happened be taken away, which I think is progress in a sense when you think about it.

Speaker 1 When you think about it. And I'm proud to have had this show with these wonderful guests.

Speaker 1 And so that's where we're going to have to wrap it up. That is our show.

Speaker 1 Thank you to Darby Lynn Cartwright, Alexis Bevels, Adam Ripon, Joel, Klan Booster, Brendan Scannell, Clay Duval, and Sabrina Wu. We will see you next week at Dynasty Typewriter.

Speaker 1 There are 514 days until the midterms. You can hear the pride show I'm doing tomorrow.
It'll be out tomorrow in your Pod Save America feeds, the show I'm doing with Sarah and Tim in DC.

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It is written and produced by me, John Lovett and Lee Eisenberg. Kendra James is our executive producer.

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