What a Weekday: Caught at McDonald's

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Trump launches a fragrance and lays out a 100 day agenda (and they both stink!). The internet loses what's left of its mind over a murder. Bashar al-Assad takes a holiday in Moscow, and we hold space for the space being held by the stars of Wicked.

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Speaker 11 Gifts are inherently irrational irrational because it's like, okay, I'll buy you something for $50, you buy me for something for $50.

Speaker 11 But why wouldn't I, if there's something I would want for $50 for myself and you would want for yourself, we should all just go to the store and buy ourselves something. But we do an exchange.

Speaker 11 And in the exchange is inherently like, there are things that you would like, but you're too careful or thoughtful or frugal to buy for yourself. Treats.
Yes.

Speaker 11 But you'll be glad to have it and wouldn't wash it and wouldn't prefer $50 once you do have it. Like that to me is what a gift is.
And what is that for yourself?

Speaker 11 I think it's a puppy.

Speaker 10 No.

Speaker 7 And we're back.

Speaker 11 I'm here with Sarah Lazarus, Hallie Kiefer, Kendra James for another edition of What a Weekday.

Speaker 11 And

Speaker 11 a lot to cover.

Speaker 11 Trump perfumes, hot shooters.

Speaker 14 I don't know why it's a

Speaker 15 Syria.

Speaker 11 Let's get into it. What a weekday.
Donald Trump sat down with Kristen Welker on Sunday's Meet the Press in his first broadcast interview since winning the election.

Speaker 11 Seems to be pretty much the same guy from before the election, which is too bad, but glad we checked.

Speaker 11 Trump outlined his plans for day one of his administration, which included trying to end birthright citizenship, a right guaranteed by the 14th Amendment.

Speaker 16 But we have to end it. We're the only country that has it, you know.

Speaker 17 Through an executive action.

Speaker 16 You know, we're the only country that has it.

Speaker 16 Do you know, if somebody sets a foot, just a foot, one foot, you don't need to, on our land, congratulations, you are now a citizen of the United States of America.

Speaker 16 Yes, we're going to end that because it's ridiculous. Through executive action.

Speaker 16 Well, if we can, through executive action.

Speaker 11 It's beside the point, but imagine giving birth with just one foot across the border. Imagine how many things would have had to go wrong.
And also right.

Speaker 11 Trump is lying, of course, if you can believe it. Dozens of countries and territories have birthright citizenship, including Canada and Mexico.

Speaker 11 Also, many constitutional scholars and civil rights groups have said that Trump can't, in fact, end birthright citizenship by executive action. It would require amending the Constitution.

Speaker 11 I'll be the judge of that, said Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito as he texted Martha Ann to lower his fuck the 14th Amendment flag.

Speaker 11 The language in the 14th Amendment is plain.

Speaker 11 It says, all persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside.

Speaker 11 The subject to jurisdiction language is clearly about ambassadors and foreign dignitaries. Or must I remind you all of the plot of Lethal Weapon 2 again?

Speaker 11 Diplomatic community.

Speaker 11 I love that that movie builds up to basically just like an extrajudicial killing of a different foreign diplomat. He earns it in the film.

Speaker 20 I don't know if this left the movie play, and that was just the episode today.

Speaker 10 I would love that.

Speaker 11 I would love that. Legal Weapon 2 is good.
Kendra, do you like Legal Weapon 2?

Speaker 21 I have to admit, I have not. No matter how many times you've mentioned it, I just don't know.

Speaker 11 It comes whenever diplomatic immunity comes up, Legal Open 2 comes up. And if you don't like that, well, go with Nezra Klein or something.
I'm sure it's great.

Speaker 11 In addition to saying that he planned to deport every undocumented immigrant during his second term, Trump said this when asked about children who are U.S. citizens who have undocumented parents.

Speaker 17 Your border czar Tom Homan said they can be deported together. Is that the plan?

Speaker 11 If only there was another way you could keep a family together in which the undocumented parent or parents have lived in the U.S.

Speaker 11 for years, if not decades, while having kids who are American citizens, because we built by intent and and neglect an economy dependent on undocumented labor as a kind of perma underclass and whose crime was responding to the incentives we collectively created.

Speaker 11 If only, if only there was some other way.

Speaker 11 Throughout this interview,

Speaker 11 this is not a criticism of Welker. You will never get Trump to be circumspent when the question is, did you really mean this? He always says yes.

Speaker 23 He always says yes.

Speaker 11 But throughout this, he kind of evades. Like this immigration section is interesting.
He makes this comment about birthright citizenship.

Speaker 11 If you listen to the language Trump uses explicitly, like directly, he says, if we can do it, he kind of, there's always outs to what he's saying, whatever.

Speaker 20 That's why this is upside down.

Speaker 11 Oh, that's true, I know. It's part of it.

Speaker 23 It's definitely part of it.

Speaker 11 But Trump, Trump, like, if we can, we'll do it by executive action, right? He's leaving himself outs throughout this conversation. And even in this immigration section, after he says this

Speaker 11 strident stuff about birthright citizenship, this

Speaker 11 embracing what Homan said about deporting families. He also is very

Speaker 11 generous about the Dreamers, which matches rhetoric he's used when he was president, like a while ago, occasionally, but obviously not what he was saying during the campaign. And it's like

Speaker 11 so much of what it is to interview Trump is to

Speaker 11 basically kind of ask him to repudiate or double down his most extreme comments. But, like, what's interesting in this interview is like, he's leaving space to be more moderate.

Speaker 11 He clearly wants, I mean, like,

Speaker 11 we will, you know, there's a portion of this interview where he talks about jailing Liz Cheney, right? You get all versions of Trump in this conversation, but like, victorious

Speaker 11 popular vote-winning Trump is a Trump that feels less insecure. And so you're getting a less strident version of him.

Speaker 11 And, like, I don't know, like Trump's saying he's open to a deal with the dreamers. Like we should take him up on that.
We should push him on that.

Speaker 11 Like Trump is saying he doesn't want to deport people who have started businesses, been here a long time. That's how he's describing the dreamers.

Speaker 11 That describes millions of undocumented people that he would surely recognize in the same way, right? As that have basically the same exact

Speaker 11 circumstances where he basically talks about dreamers. He's like, well, they've been successful.
They've done good things in this country. So

Speaker 11 I don't know what to do with that, but like, it's a bundle of contradictions right now.

Speaker 11 And as is in the past, when Trump is saying a bundle of contradictory things, the end result is you get the kind of

Speaker 11 the extreme version on the policies that affect marginalized people. And you get the moderated version that appeals to corporations.
Like he kind of moderates when he thinks it'll affect the markets.

Speaker 11 But social media took from this interview the most extreme parts of it. But that is not what this interview was.

Speaker 11 Like, if you I watched all one hour and 16 minutes of this interview, and I don't recommend anybody else do it, but if you watch that full thing,

Speaker 11 he gets baited by Welker into saying we should jail Liz Cheney.

Speaker 11 Now,

Speaker 11 you know, he wants to say it. It's right there.

Speaker 11 But what he tries to say up until that point is, I don't want to look into the past. No, I won't direct Pam Bondi and Cash Patel to investigate my opponents.
He leaves the door open. He's open to it.

Speaker 11 He wouldn't be mad if it happened.

Speaker 20 He's holding space for it.

Speaker 14 He's holding space for it.

Speaker 11 Absolutely.

Speaker 11 But

Speaker 11 just like,

Speaker 11 I don't have any grand conclusions about that, but like

Speaker 11 Donald Trump is trying to project moderation in this interview.

Speaker 24 And he sees value in that.

Speaker 21 So I also watched all of it at 8 a.m. on Sunday morning.
I don't know what I was thinking. Classic Kendra.

Speaker 8 She's either in or she's out.

Speaker 11 I was awake.

Speaker 21 I was just, I was awake.

Speaker 21 And I was going to bring up the jailing thing, too, because he very clearly, at the the top of the interview, like you said, he's trying to avoid saying, I'm going to direct anyone to investigate Biden.

Speaker 21 But then by the time you do get to the end and he's baited into saying more extreme things, it just continues to remind me that he is very good at tailoring what he is saying to the people, to whoever he's speaking to.

Speaker 21 And so, yes, we should take him up on

Speaker 21 this more moderate stance on immigration, but he's going to change it depending on what crowd he's speaking to next.

Speaker 11 Well, right.

Speaker 11 Also, there's he's like, there's, he says we should end birthright citizenship, which means that people that are born here would no longer be citizens because their parents were undocumented, while saying dreamers who weren't born here but came here as children ought to be respected because it wasn't their fault.

Speaker 11 And that contradiction really can't be squared. He's just, it's just an emotional appeal.

Speaker 11 He knows that, like, he was close to making a deal on the Dreamers when he was president that Democrats walked away from over the border.

Speaker 11 And he also knows that he wants basically to be able to give carte blanche to immigration officials to start mass deportations, but doesn't want the bad headlines and the bad stories he got around family separation.

Speaker 11 So it's like, it's not, it's an emotional, it's a, it's a, there's a, he doesn't resolve the contradiction because he doesn't have a clear policy stance.

Speaker 11 He has a kind of an ideological bent against immigration, but he hasn't thought about resolving these complexities.

Speaker 10 He doesn't care or

Speaker 23 he also like knows on some level, whether it's conscious or not, that like he doesn't actually have to do any of the things that he said.

Speaker 23 So it's like that is both what we have to use and then his power, which is like he has an obligation to no one. Like everyone will bend to him ultimately.
And he knows that.

Speaker 23 And he also, I don't know if he really cares, like I said, about any of this or like what his actual desire for his second administration is.

Speaker 23 But there will be no consequence if nothing, if anything he said doesn't happen, it doesn't matter. And also the voters didn't care to begin with.

Speaker 11 Yeah.

Speaker 11 Yes, he wants to declare victory. He wants to celebrate wins and be able to say that he succeeded in securing the border,

Speaker 11 bringing back a good economy. He wants to declare victory however he can, but he will regardless.

Speaker 11 Trump told Welker that his day one agenda also includes pardoning rioters who stormed the Capitol on January 6th and getting those guys straight into the recording studio.

Speaker 11 The bigger we can bump out an album, the better.

Speaker 11 That's another section where he left himself space to have it be limited to a few people, to being blanket,

Speaker 11 to not letting out people who assaulted the police. But we really don't know.

Speaker 11 He left himself open, pardoning everybody involved while leaving.

Speaker 11 It sounds like they are thinking about how to pardon as many people as possible while not pardoning everybody. And we'll just have to see.

Speaker 11 But that to me is like, we talked about this yesterday at Pate of America.

Speaker 11 If Donald Trump pardons people who assaulted police while trying to storm the Capitol, like that is not something you just talk about one, like, yes,

Speaker 11 democracy as an abstract concept did not, we got those voters. We have those voters.
But

Speaker 11 people are not

Speaker 11 consistently, vast majorities of Americans have not wanted Donald Trump to focus on pardoning the January 6th insurrectionists and are not happy with the idea of pardoning people who broke into the nation's capital and assaulted police officers, several of whom died.

Speaker 11 Like that is not, that is, that Donald Trump, the gravity still applies here. And like we need to make that a big issue if he does that.

Speaker 13 Anyway.

Speaker 11 Or it'll happen and then we'll move on in five fucking seconds.

Speaker 21 See, that's that's more what I'm afraid of.

Speaker 20 I'm curious how many Americans at this point know or remember or believe what Jane Rex was.

Speaker 21 And also what would the spin then be on the officers that they assaulted?

Speaker 21 Like what would were those, you know, I can just see them saying something like, well, those officers, like, yes, they're police officers, but because they're capital police officers are not the same as the boys in blue the NYPD.

Speaker 11 They just denied the whole thing. I mean, they don't, they just pretend it all didn't happen.
I mean, they just didn't, like, they were invited in. That's what Trump said in this interview.

Speaker 11 Both some of them were invited in. Like, they're just going to make it a kind of morass.

Speaker 11 But yes, a third of the country is fully captured. There's a big, the vast majority of Americans,

Speaker 7 like.

Speaker 11 Donald Trump's lowest approval rating moments, they were attempting to overturn Obamacare and the insurrection. Those will always be the two signal moments in which Donald Trump was at his lowest.

Speaker 11 And I think that tells us something about the politics of this. Trump said this of former Congressman Liz Cheney and the other members of the House January 6th Committee.

Speaker 16 For what they did,

Speaker 16 honestly, they should go to jail.

Speaker 11 Sounds like Joe Biden may want to do some pardoning of his own whenever Hunter's done taking him on a thank-you tour of D.C. area strip clubs.

Speaker 11 But don't worry, Trump said he would leave it up to hardcore loyalists he appointed to decide whether to prosecute.

Speaker 17 Are you going to direct your FBI director and your attorney general to send them to jail?

Speaker 16 Not at all. I think that they'll have to look at that.

Speaker 11 Will I direct my bloodhound to hunt down Adam Schiff? Of course not.

Speaker 11 I'll simply give him a piece of Adam Schiff's clothing to sniff, and then it's entirely up to my highly trained, fervently loyal bloodhound what he wants to do next.

Speaker 11 Trump also left the door open to Cash Patel as pick for FBI director, prosecuting his other political rivals.

Speaker 17 Is it your expectation, though, that Cash Patel will pursue investigations against your political enemies? No, I don't think so. Do you want to see that happen?

Speaker 16 If they were crooked, if they did something wrong, if they have broken the law, probably they went after me. You know, they went after me and I did nothing wrong.

Speaker 11 Again, crooked media, funnier idea eight years ago.

Speaker 11 We're rebranding innocent little babies, innocent little angel babies media. That's what we are now.
That's us.

Speaker 11 Yeah, in that Atlantic profile of Cash Patel,

Speaker 11 a line that sticks out is, Cash is the kind of person, I'm paraphrasing, Cash is the kind of person you don't have to tell to break into the Watergate. He'll just know that he's supposed to do it.

Speaker 15 Just our hand there.

Speaker 11 Yeah, so that's so like that's the chilling part about this. Trump said he was open to repealing the Affordable Care Act and repeated this banger of a line from the September debate.

Speaker 17 Sir, you said during the campaign you had concepts of a plan. Do you have an actual plan at this point for health care?

Speaker 16 Yes, we have concepts of a plan that would be better.

Speaker 11 I hardly ever say this, but Trump should consider lying about healthcare.

Speaker 11 Just say you have a plan. Has this man never had a general meeting?

Speaker 11 It's Los Angeles.

Speaker 11 People are pretending to have written things down all the time.

Speaker 11 Yeah, we'll get you the script. The once-in-feature president also told Welker that he would have RFK Jr.
as HHS chief investigate the debunk link between vaccines and autism.

Speaker 17 Going back 25 years, studies showed that there is no link between vaccines and autism. And yet it sounds like you are open to the possibility of him looking at

Speaker 16 getting rid of it. I think somebody has to find out.
I mean, something is going on. I don't know if it's vaccines.

Speaker 16 Maybe it's chlorine in the water, right? You know, people are looking at a lot of different things.

Speaker 17 You know, childhood vaccines.

Speaker 16 I want them to look at everything. I think vaccines are, certain vaccines are incredible,

Speaker 16 but maybe some aren't. And if they aren't, we have to find out.

Speaker 11 First of all, he said chlorine in the water.

Speaker 14 He meant fluoride.

Speaker 8 Yeah. Yeah.
He meant fluoride.

Speaker 11 Here's the problem.

Speaker 11 We have found out. Massive studies looking at hundreds of thousands of vaccine recipients.
I mean, just as broad a group of people, as big a data sample as you could find,

Speaker 11 no link. And I just feel like if I keep trying, we can change the mind of a swing voter two months ago.

Speaker 15 I think it's possible.

Speaker 11 If we fucking try hard enough, we can get those people.

Speaker 14 I feel like this is the same.

Speaker 23 Remember where they were having like the beehive collapse? And they're like, we don't know why this is happening. It's not the pesticides.

Speaker 23 And then like years later, it's like, it turns out it was the pesticides.

Speaker 23 Similarly, with adiation and autism, like all these things where it's like, there's a recently a study that came out basically linking it to like, um, like leaded gasoline, like pollution historically.

Speaker 23 It's like, it's going to be everything else.

Speaker 23 Like the idea that we're so fixated on vaccines at this point when there are so many factors that are entering into play and will enter play as climate change continues to get worse.

Speaker 23 Like, it's just, I don't know. I don't know there's anything to do about it, but it's like, that's like the one thing we're pretty sure it's not.

Speaker 15 Can we just try it? That's the one thing we looked into.

Speaker 8 Yeah, we looked into that.

Speaker 11 We ruled that out. That's helpful.

Speaker 23 Let's do air pollution next and then we'll go from there.

Speaker 11 The null hypothesis is valuable.

Speaker 22 We've checked it out.

Speaker 11 Yeah, vaccines are amazing. We have other problems, but vaccines are amazing.

Speaker 11 It's a strange thing to fixate on.

Speaker 11 Pick something else. Pick something else that's horrible.
I think leaded gasoline is a good one. Focus on that.

Speaker 11 Meanwhile, Trump on Sunday announced a new line of fragrances on True Social called Fight, Fight, Fight.

Speaker 11 So named because it did elicit a strong aggression response when tested on pit bulls. The French perfumer, Leni.

Speaker 11 Is that how you say it?

Speaker 21 How's it spelled?

Speaker 11 It's, I think, L-E-N. Did you make this up?

Speaker 22 What?

Speaker 20 Is this a real purse or did you make this up?

Speaker 11 Lunis is the name for the nose. Oh, it's French for the nose.
So you did make it up. Well, that's what you would call the French perfumer perfumier.
I don't know how you'd say it, but

Speaker 11 the people that are kind of, they have those extremely well-tuned noses and they can both smell and then make the perfumes. They're called noses.

Speaker 24 Le Nos.

Speaker 24 Lené.

Speaker 11 Luni.

Speaker 11 The French perfumer, Luni, who concocted the fragrance, said in a statement, they paid me in cash and they made it smell like Les Farts.

Speaker 22 Les Farts, Les Farts,

Speaker 22 Les Farts.

Speaker 10 Les Farts.

Speaker 11 That's nailed. Sorry.
That's more like Luigi Mangioni. We'll get to him.

Speaker 11 The announcement post featured a photo of Trump seated near First Lady Jill Biden at the reopening of Notre Dame in Paris with the caption, A fragrance your enemies can't resist.

Speaker 11 There's no coming back from this, sadly. Time to burn that church again.
Burn it to the ground.

Speaker 11 Over the weekend, the big story was the ongoing search for the person who murdered United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson in broad daylight last Thursday.

Speaker 11 NYPD revealed that they found what they believed was a backpack the killer left in Central Park, and it was filled with monopoly money.

Speaker 11 Said Mayor Eric Adams, Given the amount of monopoly money in the backpack, we believe the killer is one of those people that plays by paying taxes and other fees into the center of the board and then uses free parking as a means to recoup those costs.

Speaker 11 Before the spokesperson of NYPD could get access to it.

Speaker 11 He's a free parking guy. You guys free parking people?

Speaker 23 I hate Monopoly more than any other game.

Speaker 15 I love Monopoly.

Speaker 11 That also tracks completely.

Speaker 15 No one could play with Monopoly.

Speaker 11 Laggers is neutral about it. It wasn't like a childhood game for her.

Speaker 11 What were your childhood games?

Speaker 20 We were a Scrabble family.

Speaker 8 Dad, that, of course.

Speaker 20 And my brother and dad played chess, but I was too bad at it.

Speaker 15 Wow.

Speaker 11 Wow.

Speaker 25 You like Monopoly? I love Monopoly.

Speaker 15 You like being banker.

Speaker 21 Yes, I was the banker. I also love Stratego.
I got into Risk.

Speaker 11 Oh, Stratego is great. Stratego is a great game.
Risk is a great game. Love Risk.

Speaker 23 We're of an Uno family.

Speaker 22 Yeah. Huh.

Speaker 23 Candyland.

Speaker 11 Authorities released photos of the suspect Sam's mask, which the internet immediately began thirsting over. If you people were cats, I'd be spraying you with a water bottle.
No, don't enjoy that too.

Speaker 11 Stop looking at me.

Speaker 11 Then on Monday, the police released the name of a suspect they arrested after he was recognized eating at a McDonald's in Altoona, Pennsylvania, where an employee called authorities.

Speaker 11 And that employee, humble fry cook cook Donald J. Trump.

Speaker 11 That's the employee? Come on.

Speaker 21 They did say he was elderly.

Speaker 11 The assassin was careful, disciplined, but couldn't resist a reckless trip to McDonald's. I've never related to somebody more.

Speaker 11 According to the NYPD, the alleged shooter is Luigi Mangioni, a 26-year-old man who attended the University of Pennsylvania.

Speaker 11 Mangioni was captured with a gun and suppressor, fake ID, and it says here: several loose meatballs.

Speaker 11 Added Mangioni upon his arrest. I shoot at the guy, Mama Mia.

Speaker 11 Is this allowed, David? I have no idea.

Speaker 23 I think famously, Italians and Irish, the last groups we're allowed to really go hard on.

Speaker 11 If we're not allowed, put it in the comments.

Speaker 11 Mangioni also has a document that expressed frustration with the healthcare industry and contained the line, the parasites had it coming.

Speaker 11 Okay, but 90% of people out of Pennsylvania McDonald's have a manifesto in their backpacks, too.

Speaker 10 This proves nothing.

Speaker 11 Speaking of manifestos, on the suspect's Goodreads, he allegedly gave the Unibomber Manifesto four out of five stars.

Speaker 11 So close to perfect, but could use less blah, blah, blah and more boom, boom, boom.

Speaker 20 He gave five to the Lorax.

Speaker 11 He gave five to the Lorax.

Speaker 11 He five to the Lorax.

Speaker 21 He had Ann Ryan on his, what's on his

Speaker 10 want to read.

Speaker 11 What a strange book to review on Goodreads.

Speaker 20 As an adult. I'm sorry.

Speaker 8 I think he might be some kind of weird guy.

Speaker 11 The second I saw the story story that, like, oh, the CEO had been killed in an assassination, I was just like bracing for the inevitable people praising the killer because of the depravities of the insurance industry, then people criticizing the people praising the killer, then people criticizing the people criticizing the people praising the killer because they don't have enough empathy for the pains caused by the insurance industry.

Speaker 11 And then that would lead to Republicans blaming the left for people

Speaker 11 celebrating the killing of a person person and this whole kind of cycle of different groups of people performing a lack of empathy for either the victim or for the victims of the insurance industry.

Speaker 11 And

Speaker 11 I'm opting out of the whole thing.

Speaker 21 But did you think he was hot?

Speaker 11 Well, yeah, I mean, I have eyes.

Speaker 11 I have eyes. Yeah.
The other part of it that I find like, like,

Speaker 7 okay,

Speaker 11 this person's now been arrested. It seems like, based on what people have gathered online and who knows, that like this person has had some kind of injury.

Speaker 11 And there have been interviews in the Times about this, that he had some kind of injury. It caused some kind of a downward spin.
He's had some kind of mental health crisis.

Speaker 11 Like, okay, this person has killed this man.

Speaker 11 That man's family is in mourning.

Speaker 11 There is now...

Speaker 11 That person now is going to be charged and tried for murder.

Speaker 11 A bunch of people on the internet are going to have a good time talking about how hot he is and all the, like the, everyone bending over backwards to be kind of, I don't know, edgelordy about how hot they find him and all that.

Speaker 12 And then

Speaker 11 we'll all move on. Politics will move on.
The story will move on. But this guy is dead.
And this person who was in crisis is going to spend probably the rest of his life.

Speaker 11 in prison and we'll stop talking about him, but his life is forever over. And I find the whole thing kind of of glib and uncomfortable.

Speaker 20 That's what I mean. And we won't have Medicare for all after this.

Speaker 11 And we won't have Medicare for all after this. And I went and looked, and

Speaker 11 the United Healthcare stock dropped like 8 to 10%

Speaker 11 after the killing,

Speaker 11 but is still up over the last six months because of a great earnings call from July. And it's like, okay,

Speaker 11 so

Speaker 11 the murder of the CEO and the attention on the ways in which United Health is particularly bad about claims is not as destructive as a positive earnings call from July. And the system will

Speaker 11 careen onward. And

Speaker 11 like

Speaker 11 some insurance companies are better than others. Some treat people more fecklessly and cruel than others.

Speaker 11 Some choose to exploit the

Speaker 11 system

Speaker 11 with little regard for the people that are relying on their health insurance to keep them alive and protect them at their moments of greatest need.

Speaker 11 The whole industry is like fundamentally depraved because they exist to create a delta between how much people pay in premiums and how much they pay out.

Speaker 11 All of that is true, but that is the system. We have to change that system.
And I am fine

Speaker 11 and

Speaker 11 largely agree with a politics that points out that these companies are greedy, that they exploit people, that they deny coverage when they know they should cover it, when they deny coverage and then eventually relent because people fight it, that part of their business model is denying more than they should because they know that a certain percentage of people will just give up.

Speaker 11 Like, that is all sick and twisted for sure. But

Speaker 11 this person will be replaced. That company is one of many insurance companies providing a service in the gap between what

Speaker 11 people need and what our government provides. We had a fight, a big fight, about trying to build a better public system.

Speaker 11 The American people consistently, when polled about this, say they like their private insurance. And now that is in part because of propaganda from the health insurance industry.

Speaker 11 That is in part because of propaganda from

Speaker 11 right-wing media.

Speaker 11 But that is the reality. And having gone through

Speaker 11 the big healthcare fights in the Democratic Party, having written speeches for President Obama when he was desperately trying to get as many people into better insurance and as many people into a public option, into Medicare, into Medicaid as he could, at every step of the way, the challenge was the need to

Speaker 11 make clear to millions of people that if they liked their plan, they could keep their plan. Because if you look at the latest polling just

Speaker 11 last year from the the Kaiser Family Foundation,

Speaker 11 80%

Speaker 11 of people say they are happy with their insurance. That number drops a bit for people that have had problems with their insurance, but not a lot.
More people are happy with Medicare.

Speaker 11 More people want the government to help protect people's access to care. More people want an expanded role for government in healthcare.

Speaker 11 One of the biggest political blowbacks Barack Obama ever faced is when

Speaker 11 after saying if you like your plan, you can keep your plan, certain plans were being canceled because they didn't provide certain amounts of coverage, because they didn't meet the new criteria, because insurance companies were exploiting the passage of Obamacare to claim that because of Obamacare, they were ending policies.

Speaker 11 And

Speaker 11 villainize insurers, point out their inequities, point out their failures. But providers also charge a lot.

Speaker 11 And

Speaker 11 when insurance companies try to lower the fees they pay to providers, they face public blowback.

Speaker 6 Also,

Speaker 25 when

Speaker 11 the millions of people who have been victimized by insurance and who have cancer and are not getting the covers they need and are fighting on the phone with their insurance company while trying to get covered, these stories that happen over and over again, those stories become public.

Speaker 11 Millions of Americans who have had these terrible experiences clamor and say, Hey, the system is broken. We should all come together and do something different.
The 50% of the country in

Speaker 11 private health insurance through their employer, the the 10% of the country who buys private health insurance, that group of people

Speaker 11 have said, we are fine with you expanding coverage, but don't fuck with my coverage, right? That is the politics of this. And that is not just about the depravities of the health insurance.

Speaker 11 That is a collective lack of empathy, the collective will to imagine doing something better. And I am all for, again, like I...
villainize insurance companies. Like I, there is value to that.

Speaker 11 We should be pushing these companies to treat people better, even in this fucked up system.

Speaker 11 Plenty of them, it's not just the system, plenty of them break the law and break the rules to try to get around coverage and have to apologize and deal with the ramifications after.

Speaker 11 But if we are going to change the healthcare system, if that's really something we want to do, and I want to, then we have to reckon with the actual politics, which is about insurance companies.

Speaker 11 It is about

Speaker 11 the doctor association, it's about the hospitals, and it's about

Speaker 11 persuading millions of Americans to expand Medicare, to

Speaker 11 create a public option, to do the things that will put us on the road to a single-payer system.

Speaker 11 Talking to people about the administrative costs of private insurance versus the health insurance industry.

Speaker 11 Talk to people about the incredibly high costs that people pay, even outside of insurance for healthcare in America. There's a lot of problems we have to talk about.
But

Speaker 11 I find there's something

Speaker 11 counterproductive and

Speaker 11 morally easy in scapegoating

Speaker 11 just the insurance companies because they are an easy villain and they are villains.

Speaker 20 So, who should we be murdering?

Speaker 11 And that's the question. And all this is about figuring out who we should be murdering.
Because if there's one thing I know, we are going to shoot our way to single-payer healthcare.

Speaker 11 And we just got to figure out the right people to shoot.

Speaker 20 I vote PSA while we talk about this

Speaker 20 because, as we point out, it's not only the insurance, it's the providers who are charging crazy amounts.

Speaker 20 When you get a scary hospital bill, I think most people know this, ask for an itemized statement. I had to go to the ER for a kidney infection earlier this year.
Shout out kidney infections.

Speaker 20 And my original bill insurance did cover most of it, but my copay was still scary. And I asked for an itemized statement.

Speaker 20 And the total that I owed at the bottom of that bill was exactly half of my original bill.

Speaker 20 And that just, I don't know if it's an honest mistake, but like this happens a lot where they'll just accidentally charge you for things and you just have to ask them for the itemized version.

Speaker 8 Wow. And it's different.

Speaker 20 Terrific. It doesn't always work, but give it a shot.
Yeah.

Speaker 25 I think in your,

Speaker 25 I don't want to call it a rant.

Speaker 15 That wasn't a rant.

Speaker 21 That was a speech, something.

Speaker 21 Yeah, whatever you just did, I think you hit on a problem that is the common denominator of a lot of the issues that we have in America, which is a lack of empathy.

Speaker 21 And I don't know how you, that, that is the thing that we actually have to work to solve.

Speaker 8 And I don't know where we, how we get there.

Speaker 11 I do think that

Speaker 11 part of it is like people have conflicting ideas about this. And people are more empathetic and generous in in spirit when

Speaker 11 they feel less personally threatened. So that's, I think, the value of saying, if you like your plan, you can keep your plan because it's saying, hey, we're going to.
And by the way, like we did.

Speaker 11 Obamacare, which is now very popular,

Speaker 11 did a big expansion of Medicaid, made it possible for a lot more people to afford health insurance, capped a bunch of costs, capped a bunch of out-of-pocket costs, covered a bunch of preventative care.

Speaker 11 Part of why some plans are being canceled is they didn't cover things like mammograms and other regular necessary treatments. Like all of that was very, very positive.

Speaker 24 But like

Speaker 11 when inside of the Democratic Party, it becomes a debate about Medicare for all or not Medicare for all, you miss what are actually very big and good policy solutions that would have a huge impact

Speaker 11 that are less complete, like a public option or just lowering the Medicare eligibility from 65 to 60 takes a bunch of high-risk people out of the private insurance pool, lowers our collective healthcare costs instantly because Medicare pays a fraction of what private insurance does on administrative costs,

Speaker 11 and lowers the cost of private insurance because all of a sudden the private insurance market doesn't have 60 to 65-year-olds, which are some of the most expensive people to insure because they're about to be seniors or about to be, they're about,

Speaker 11 they are

Speaker 11 getting into the age where their healthcare costs more and more. So, like, part of it too is I think people really like Medicare, but they have been convinced by

Speaker 11 fear-mongering that says that, oh, if you expand Medicare for everybody, Medicare will get worse and the system can't handle it.

Speaker 11 And I think the way you deal with that fear is by just doing it in pieces and like trying to slowly get more and more people into the system.

Speaker 11 But no, I agree. Like part of it is just,

Speaker 11 it is empathy, but it's also like a kind of collective lack of a kind of positive imagination that we can do big things and those big things will be good.

Speaker 11 Like that, that is just, I think, lost right now. There is no kind of collective collective

Speaker 11 positive vision or a collective ability to come together and say, hey, we're going to do something big and make a big change and it's going to be great.

Speaker 11 And that's, I do think like as we're, I think it's worth talking about because I, I, I, like, as we figure out the politics of the next two years and how we respond to Republicans and then get into the primaries for 2028, like,

Speaker 11 we're not going to be talking about Trump anymore. And so what are we going to be talking about?

Speaker 11 And I do think it has to be this bigger vision of a future, and it has to be more concrete than opportunity economy.

Speaker 11 And I don't know what it is, but I'm excited to find out.

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Speaker 11 In international news, Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, Syria's ruler for 24 years, fled the country on Sunday when rebel forces seized control of Damascus after sweeping across the country in a matter of days.

Speaker 11 More like Syria, you later, you corrupt butcher.

Speaker 11 But in all seriousness, Assad did terrible things. In all Syria-ness-ness.
In all Syria-ness.

Speaker 22 Got him.

Speaker 11 Assad and his family arrived in Moscow the same day, having been granted asylum in Russia. Enjoy Moscow in winter, you fucks.

Speaker 11 Bashar al-Assad is an ophthalmologist turned dictator who killed half a million people. Edward Snowden is a former NSA contractor who leaked thousands of classified documents to journalists.

Speaker 11 And now, their roommates

Speaker 11 which one do you think left dishes in the sink i think it's a sad

Speaker 11 i think snowden's fastidious i think sad's a mess who's been had every whim catered to for years now he's got to do his own dishes do his own laundry how's that going snowden now you're feeling like a nag and now they're fighting and that's the show that's the show

Speaker 11 sold Moscow and Winter. That's a good name.

Speaker 10 Let's get on it.

Speaker 11 I actually don't think it's a bad idea. The show? Yeah.
Like an actual scripted comedy about Bashar al-Assad and Edward Snowden.

Speaker 8 I think that's a bad idea. Oh, yeah.
Okay.

Speaker 11 Now that I think about it, you're right. It's a terrible idea.

Speaker 23 It kind of reminds me, do you guys ever watch That's My Bush, which was the sitcom about George W. Bush?

Speaker 21 It was great. I did not.

Speaker 23 It was the guys who did South Park. But I imagine it's something like that, sort of a

Speaker 21 naked gun type of thing.

Speaker 15 You see animated live action?

Speaker 24 I'm open.

Speaker 23 I'm open. Sort of a Bojack situation.

Speaker 11 Yeah, they are also horses.

Speaker 11 Speaking of the White House, President Biden called the sudden collapse of the Syrian government a moment of historic opportunity for the long-suffering people of Syria, but also a moment of risk and uncertainty.

Speaker 11 In conclusion, Biden continued in a distracted monotone, Syria is a land of contrast. Then he went back to stuffing neckties and silverware into a suitcase.
Continued Biden.

Speaker 29 We're cleared-eyed about the fact that ISIS will try to take advantage of any vacuum to reestablish its capabilities and to create a safe haven.

Speaker 10 We will not let that happen.

Speaker 11 Until at least mid-January. Joe Biden's looking good.
I think he could have done a second term. Trump's foreign policy is an incoherent, contradictory jumble.

Speaker 11 He's appointed a series of national security hawks. He's appointed a series of national security hawks like Marco Rubio and Mike Waltz.

Speaker 11 But he's also planning to nominate for director of national intelligence Tulsi Gabbard, who spouts Russian propaganda and who in July urged Trump to avoid Rubio, saying that he represents the neocon warmongering establishment.

Speaker 11 A team of rivals. But they are being being chosen for these roles because they all believe in something more important.
Donald Trump is mommy.

Speaker 11 Gabbard also had two secret meetings with Assad himself, making an unannounced trip to Syria in 2017 while a sitting congressperson.

Speaker 11 Tweeted former rep Adam Kinzinger on Friday, wonder if Tulsi Gabbard will offer Assad safe harbor at her house. They are great friends.
I've been to worst friends gettings.

Speaker 11 I just got chills imagining for the first time what Tulsi Gabbard's house might look like. There's a coffee table made of a surfboard, but no rugs.
No rugs at all.

Speaker 11 The only art is a gray abstract painting from home goods.

Speaker 11 Just that three-frame shit. Shiplap? Oh, I hope this probably shiplap.
This is all a reminder that Trump can claim every failure was avoidable and every success inevitable when he's campaigning.

Speaker 11 It's more difficult when he's governing. For example.

Speaker 17 You said you can end the war in 24 hours. You've even said you want to try to end it before you're surprised.

Speaker 11 What I'm trying to do.

Speaker 16 I'm trying to end it.

Speaker 19 You're actively trying to. I am.

Speaker 17 Have you talked to President Putin?

Speaker 19 No, I have not.

Speaker 17 You haven't talked to President Putin since you've been elected.

Speaker 16 No.

Speaker 16 well, I don't want to say that, but I haven't spoken to him recently.

Speaker 11 Trump, like

Speaker 11 woman at brunch, whose friend is trying to find out if she's still talking to the ex

Speaker 11 because the last time they had brunch, she said she was fucking done and she's not going to go through that again. And she's like, I haven't talked to him recently.
Well, how recently?

Speaker 11 Since the election? Well, I mean, obviously, I'm not going to say not since the election.

Speaker 11 Buddy, if you've spoken to him since the election, that is recently. I have friends I haven't talked to since Ron DeSantis was running for president.
These are good, close friends.

Speaker 11 Putin isn't a, what did you eat for lunch today, inner circle level guy? Okay, fine, but that doesn't mean you haven't talked to him recently.

Speaker 20 Anyone you've talked to in the last month is your best friend. Yeah.

Speaker 11 Donald Trump's saying he can end the war in a day before he becomes president. Not possible.
Like, people have been talking about whether the collapse of Syria.

Speaker 11 is going to turn people against Tulsi Gabbard because of her conversations with Assad.

Speaker 11 But I also think it's about the reminder that these are serious jobs that require people

Speaker 11 that aren't fucking kooks.

Speaker 11 Like John, we talked about this on Ponte America yesterday, but like John Bolton has been one of the people leading the charge against Tulsi Gabbard. And then it becomes a kind of hawks versus

Speaker 11 doves.

Speaker 11 debate because John Bolton is obviously a neocon.

Speaker 11 But like

Speaker 11 the the point that he made, which is a good one, it's like, hey, like, it's not about ideology. Like, she has terrible fucking judgment.
Like, she has kooky, shitty judgment.

Speaker 11 That's a dangerous thing in a job like this, regardless of the ideology. Anyway, so

Speaker 11 hope that works out.

Speaker 11 A few weeks ago, this interview with Out Magazine went viral.

Speaker 30 I've seen

Speaker 30 this week people are taking the lyrics of defying gravity and really holding space with that and feeling power in that.

Speaker 31 I didn't know that that was happening.

Speaker 30 I've seen it, yeah.

Speaker 19 That's

Speaker 31 really powerful.

Speaker 31 That's why I wanted.

Speaker 24 Yeah.

Speaker 24 I didn't know that was happening.

Speaker 30 I've seen it on a couple posts. I don't know how widespread, but you know, I am in queer media.

Speaker 11 I know what you're thinking. This can't be why Trump won because it went down after the election.

Speaker 20 This is my hundredth time watching this clip, and I'm just realizing how funny it is to be moved while wearing that hat.

Speaker 11 It's the, yes, that people have been reluctant to talk about the looks as being part of the silliness.

Speaker 8 It's part of it. Yeah, no, partly.

Speaker 11 The internet also latched on to the fact that Ariana Grande reaches out and grabs Cynthia Reno's one finger like a baby.

Speaker 11 Which I keep trying to do at the office, but nobody will let me. Kendra, let me hold your fingy.

Speaker 10 Fingy?

Speaker 11 That went about as well as we thought.

Speaker 11 Now, in a follow-up interview, Ariana and Cynthia admitted that they have no idea what the hell that conversation was even about.

Speaker 32 So, I didn't know what any part of it meant. I didn't understand the first sentence.

Speaker 32 And then I definitely didn't understand

Speaker 32 what was happening,

Speaker 32 how you responded. I was like, oh, what did she say? What did you hear? And I just wanted to be there because I knew something big was happening.
And I didn't know how to be there.

Speaker 31 But then after a while, I didn't know how to be there.

Speaker 21 Once again, the hat.

Speaker 15 Yeah.

Speaker 11 Are we there? Are we here? What is happening? It also does,

Speaker 11 it does fit with what it felt like it was going on, which is that Ariana Grande is just an incredible, like, she's incredible at like reading a room and matching the energy.

Speaker 20 Yes, and all day.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 11 And so she's like, all right, we're having an emotional moment. I don't really know why, but I'm here for it.
Here's what Grande went on to say.

Speaker 32 I remember in the moment asking myself, am I okay?

Speaker 32 Did I not hear something? And I was like, Am I? I was like, because she looks like she's about to cry again.

Speaker 21 It's also like for Cynthia Rivo to be saying she also doesn't know what was going on, she's the one who had the emotional reaction. She's the one who started it.
But they were crying this whole time.

Speaker 23 Like when she said cry again, it's like they've been tearing up in every single one of these interviews. So I think she just automatically was like, I'm already crying.

Speaker 11 The press tour for Wicked was such an emotional roller coaster. They were going through it out there.
But yeah, I think there's something about like, there's a little bit of Ariana Grande being like

Speaker 11 trying to take herself out of it and be like, yeah, I was out. I was on the outside of it with the rest of you.
And Cynthia Ruby was like, well, don't leave me in here alone.

Speaker 11 I want to be out there with you too. So I also didn't understand what was happening.
Nobody understood what was happening. And then I saw that the woman who did the interview

Speaker 11 did a makeup commercial

Speaker 11 around holding space. And I'm glad she's getting that money.

Speaker 11 Like a full commercial for cosmetics of some kind.

Speaker 23 I like the game, it's choir saying a song about holding space, and that was my favorite part of it.

Speaker 31 She had said that she was seeing it because she was in queer media, and I was like,

Speaker 31 I honestly didn't know

Speaker 31 what that meant. And am I also in queer media? Yeah, maybe.

Speaker 14 We are great. What?

Speaker 11 This actually, I

Speaker 11 thought about this. I was like, well, any media Cynthia Aribo is in is queer media.
Any media that I'm in is queer media. What does the term mean mean if you're in it and it's not?

Speaker 21 She also, like, you're sitting down without magazine. You know what queer media is.
You are in one of like the most known queer relationships that you broke up

Speaker 21 with another. Like, you broke up a queer marriage and are now in a very prominent queer relation.
You know what this is.

Speaker 11 Then how do you explain it?

Speaker 11 Peter, how do you explain this?

Speaker 8 Explain. Explain which part.

Speaker 11 Then why is she saying this?

Speaker 21 Because I think at this point they're just talking.

Speaker 11 Yeah, they're just talking. They're just talking.

Speaker 14 Yeah.

Speaker 20 That's answering all this.

Speaker 11 They've done so many interviews about Wicked. They're just broken.

Speaker 23 To be fair, if any one of us was interviewed about anything, I just feel like if I were to be interviewed at any point in time, I would have no idea what's going on. I could lose a thread like that.

Speaker 23 So I empathize with them because if somebody said I'd be like, oh, well, okay.

Speaker 22 Like, I have no idea.

Speaker 20 To not know what's going on and not ask, you can just say, hey, what are you talking about?

Speaker 8 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 21 Instead of sounding like, that's what I hoped would happen. Like, also, you're not Steven Schwartz.
You didn't write this song. This song's been being performed since 2003.

Speaker 11 She's so good in it.

Speaker 21 No, I'm not talking about quality.

Speaker 11 For people watching, like, obviously Kendra has been critical of Cynthia Revo and Wicked for a long time

Speaker 11 about the casting, the staging, all of it. Not a fan of the musical, not a fan of Cynthia Revo's, and that's all coming out.

Speaker 21 I mean, if we want to talk about Cynthia Arivos' comments during the Harriet Tubman era, we could.

Speaker 11 Oh, yeah, I guess we could, but maybe not today.

Speaker 15 No, she was great in the color purple on Broadway. She's our

Speaker 10 phenomenal.

Speaker 20 The important thing is to go see Conclave.

Speaker 15 Conclave. Conclave.

Speaker 6 Conclave.

Speaker 32 I feel really relieved that the world had... the same experience with this moment that I did because I felt like, oh, I'm not broken.

Speaker 11 No, no, no. You're broken.

Speaker 15 We're all broken.

Speaker 11 We're all broken, babe. Welcome to the club.

Speaker 11 I guess that's it.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 21 The vibes just feel weird.

Speaker 8 What? No, I just like here today.

Speaker 21 No, no, no. Just like, imagine being in their presence.
It just feels like it would be a very weird time vibe-wise.

Speaker 11 I just, I think they're both amazing. They're incredibly talented people.
They are

Speaker 11 being lauded for hours and hours hours every day to talk about, how did you do this amazing thing? How are you so amazing? And it has to be just brainwarping to do this for days.

Speaker 11 They've been like, I can't believe we even have this interview because this is in a produced white room where they're being asked to react to other promotion from what, a week or two ago?

Speaker 23 I think it's nice to like, this was genuinely camp. Like, I think as a queer person, it's like, it is nice to have a sincere moment that we all looked at and said, what?

Speaker 4 And then everyone just started making a meeting on it.

Speaker 23 And that was fun. And I think like, that's what they should take away: you did a good job.
People needed something silly like this.

Speaker 11 Thank you, ladies. Yeah.
And I am just, I am so excited that we get a whole nother round of

Speaker 4 press.

Speaker 11 Now they get to go out and start promoting a movie that is a fucking guaranteed hit. They have a second movie.
Joe, like, oh, yeah. Like, there is a guaranteed hit.
That is a, they are so lucky.

Speaker 11 That is, this is like the, this is the fucking musical MCU now.

Speaker 21 So when do we have to do this again? Is this next year or are we giving November?

Speaker 19 Next November.

Speaker 11 Same time, same time next year.

Speaker 33 Holding up for Conclave 2.

Speaker 8 Conclave 2.

Speaker 18 Conclave. Conclave 2.

Speaker 11 But that's not the only thing you can look forward to next year. We are announcing today that Love It Relieve It has a bunch of dates in Los Angeles through spring of 2025.

Speaker 11 And whatever happens next year, we'll love to see you. So join me every Thursday starting January 9th if you're in Los Angeles and some exciting changes coming.

Speaker 11 So you won't want to to miss these shows. We have some very big guests lined up for you.
We have some very fun new segments coming your way. We're going to trump-proof this show yet again.

Speaker 11 So come by if you're in Los Angeles. First up, we have Joel McHale and Rachel Bloom.
Those are great guests. So check it out, crooked.com slash events to see the dates and grab some tickets.

Speaker 11 See you there. And that is our show.
I want to thank Ariana Grande, Cynthia Rivo, Sarah Lazarus, Halle Kiefer, and Kendra James.

Speaker 11 Just so everybody knows, we are doing one more What a Week Day next week, which will be our last What a Weekday.

Speaker 11 We have loved doing this, but we want to really focus on doing the absolute best Thursday live show and Saturday podcast recording.

Speaker 11 And so we have a lot of plans to really focus on that and try to give you just a one hyper-concentrated dose.

Speaker 11 of love to relieve it.

Speaker 11 But that starts in the new year. So we will we have one more show Saturday, and then we have one more show Tuesday.
And then we will see you in the new year. See you Saturday.

Speaker 14 Conclave.

Speaker 20 Conclave. Conclave.

Speaker 20 Love it, all living, it's love and leaving.

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Speaker 20 Love it or leave it. It's love it or leave it.

Speaker 20 Straight shoe tie.

Speaker 20 Love it or leave it. It's love it or leave it.

Speaker 20 Let's make it on my side.

Speaker 20 Love it or leave it or leave it.

Speaker 11 Love it or leave it is a crooked media production. It is written and produced by me, John Lovett, and Lee Eisenberg.
Kendra James is our executive producer.

Speaker 11 Chris Lord is our producer, and Kennedy Hill is our associate producer. Hallie Kiefer is our head writer.
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Speaker 11 Peter Miller, Alan Pierre, Will Miles, and Mohanad El-Shiki are our writers. Evan Sutton is our editor.
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Speaker 21 Just love it, or leave it. Speaking of gifts, man, I got a whole thing of MSG the other day.
One of the best purchases. I'd really been holding off, and I'm so glad I did it.

Speaker 23 What does it come in? Is it a paste? Is it a podcast?

Speaker 21 Oh, it's just like McCormick sells it. Oh, yeah.
So you just get a thing from McCormick, and then it's just a little dusting over all your various.

Speaker 21 It just makes it like umami or what is the no, no, it just it MSG just basically boosts the flavor of anything that you're making.

Speaker 21 So like John made buffaloing stuff the other night for a football game and it just like heightens everything else in the middle.

Speaker 20 Does it put it in sweet things?

Speaker 21 I would say I don't MSG cookies.

Speaker 15 I'm not savory.

Speaker 14 It is umami. That's what it is.

Speaker 11 That is like it is, I think that's what it is. It's a umami flavor, which does do the same kind of thing as salts.

Speaker 11 But we don't have a good, it's not It's not like in our vernacular, so it's this sort of hidden flavor.

Speaker 21 Yeah, it's whatever it is.

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