Ep 546 - Maxo Kream (feat. Maxo Kream)

Wild Wild West. Nice.
Yeah, we were just talking plane crashes. Too many, man.
Way too many. That shit.
Got niggas scared, shit. Dude, I'm telling you, I flew.
I had to fly with my wife, and I was just ready. I was like, man, if this is it, this is it.
That's crazy, dude, how the helicopter just flew into that fucking plane. Yeah, that's crazy.
They didn't see it on the radio scan or whatever. That's crazy.
Yeah, man. I don't know.
It gets people's wheels spinning in a really bad way where it's like, why? How the fuck did that happen? And then this is the crazy part. I never listen to what they tell me.
Like, yo, yeah, so grab the oxygen and everything. Bro, if something happened, I'm a freak.
And how is that going to save us? I know, dude. Until I wear a C-Bill.
Yeah, a C-Bill when a helicopter hit the plane. Yeah, you're fucked.
That's too crazy. Yeah, and.
Yeah, and then when I fly with my kids, they make me read the brochure to them. They're like, read this, and I have to like, why do they have their heads down in their laps? I'm like, if you just want to get a little extra comfortable in case we got to land really quick.
And I'm like, that's what you do to keep you from freaking out. That's what happens.
You're about to die. And they tell you to try to blow yourself.
Did you ever see the picture? They're like, put your head in your lap. It's like, bro, I'm just going to go out.
Ain't nobody that damn flexible. If you is that flexible, you sus.
True. That's true.
That's true. That would be crazy to see somebody think they're going down and have their head right in their lap, Lord forbid, but something like that happened.
First off, I'm not getting out in no single foul. I'm pushing my way through.
You know what I'm saying? It sounds fucked up, but I'm grabbing my Goyard bag. Yeah.
I already lost my arm. So basically you're going to lose everything that you check in, right? So that's gone.
Yeah, yeah. I got to say something.
I'm grabbing that and I'm getting a fuck, but...

Then you got to go down a yellow inflatable slide.

But that's if you land.

But if you have something in the air or something,

I'm in an airplane, like,

like if something happens,

you go down the inflatable side,

by the grace of God, you're blessed.

Yeah, true.

Because just being in the air,

anything happening, that's scary as shit.

Yeah, dude.

The fucking plane gets on fire.

Did you see that one video with the plane?

Like, it was in, I think...

Houston.

No, there was one, like, months ago in Brazil.

Oh, damn.

I don't know if it was brazil it's another country in the plane the engines lost power and it just fell like it didn't even crash it just fell dead out of the sky like insane so how they live dude they exploded it literally it just lost power. Like, if you know, like, you think airplane crash, you're like, like that.
This just stopped and was like, boom, and did like a dead spin and just fell. Dude, it was the most fucked up shit I've ever seen.
But, you know, I flew this weekend. I'm all right.
I flew. The show.
Back and forth. And again, this is the best time.
Y'all got to tighten up. You get discounts.
Well, that was the fucked up thing because then it both both political sides started blaming each other they're like you know uh republicans were like doing the dei stuff and then the democrats were like you fired the head of the faa the federal or whatever but then it's like dude so you're telling me if one guy you guys have an organization where one guy leaves everything starts to crash it's what was he doing? All the fucking glow sticks himself?

What the fuck are you talking about, dude?

They didn't tighten up. I don't know.
I feel like we might be under attack. I know.

I feel like they're like, bro, this is true,

bro. It's more safe

to ride an airplane than drive your Hellcat

down fucking

6th Street. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah. So all this shit happening like that,

I don't know, man. Just too much going on right now.
You know, just. I know.
Dude, it's getting weird, man. I'm off the porn right now.
I'm actually, dude, I'm in a fasted state right now. Not talking about just off the porn and stuff.
I'm off. I haven't eaten in two days.
For real? Yeah, I'm just fasting. Juicing? I'm in a state of grace.
No, nothing. Just water.
A little bit of coffee. Only time I can do that is going Adderall.
Oh, you can do that. Yeah, yeah.
Two days, easy. That ain't shit.
You should do it, nothing. Just water, a little bit of coffee.
The only time I can do that is going Adderall. Oh, you can do that.
Hell yeah, two days, easy. That ain't shit.
You should do an Adderall fast. That'd be sick.
Hell yeah. Get a lot of shit done.
But Adderall, see, I'm glad that you fasting out porn. Yeah.
I watch so much porn when I pop Adderall. Really? I just want to be alone for two hours.
Oh, you're stim fapping. It's called stim fapping.
Stim fapping. What's that? Put me on game.
Stim fapping is when you use stimulants and just go into a porn hole and just allow yourself to fap. It's like chem sex.
I mean, I'm not. It's a chem sex.
Gay guy. You know, I'm obviously not drawing the comparison, but chem sex is big in the gay community where you just get like whacked on meth and it's just dudes on meth.
Nah, I ain't doing that. Just for like days straight.
I that, but stim fapping is the hetero version. I don't stim nothing.
I just, all this shit stem from the Adderall and me just one or two. I was to myself.
I feel like Adderall shrivels your dick. I don't even know how.
Yeah. Then it get complicated.
Cause then you want all kinds of rhino, man, I'm like, hey, let me know what you're going through.

Like, yeah, I need to fast.

The Adderall rhino.

Dude, you're definitely stim-faffing, by the way.

If you're telling me you're entering rhino pills in there, that's stim-faffing.

No, no, that's not stim-faffing.

It's called being 30 plus.

Well, here, dude, if you go off the porn,

I was literally just thinking about this today.

I've been off it, thank God.

I mean, it's been since, like, the new year, which is pretty good for me because I'm a bit of an avid consumer myself. But, dude, when you go off of it, your brain really does rewire to the point where, like, you can just, like, smell a lady's perfume, and you're like, holy shit.
Like, when you were a kid, you get back to that. Because I really think, like, porn has has i feel like it's made all of us uh more gay like i'm not saying everyone's gay but i'm saying like here's the thing if you walk by and you see a lady's shoulders and you get kind of chubbed up you're definitely less gay than a guy who doesn't get chubbed up from seeing a lady's shoulders you know what i'm saying so if you're watching porn you're just slowly you're still hetero yeah but you're drifting i I get what you're saying saying.
All this damn flabbing ain't got nothing to do with me, Captain. I don't know.
I don't like this. You're not stim-fabbing.
You're not stim-fabbing. But nah, I know what you mean.
Like, oh, now she got to be bent over showing it. That's what I'm saying.
You know what I'm saying? For you to get hard with whether you can just see something. It's a vicious cycle, dude.
Like the OnlyFans. Because then the women now are just contorting themselves into artificial.
It's the women. It's these new camera filters.
Yeah, true. And it's fucking, when Twitter turned, the exit was over with.
Goddamn Twitter. And like, that's where I'm at.
Like my Twitter space. I'd be like, okay, I'm trying to do something positive.
Let me go look at some sneaker shit. Look at some clothes.
Up is a yellow bone with green eyes fingering herself. Yep, I know.
Up is the one giving head. Oh, she's actually kind of good.
You've got to say you're not interested. What's she? She in Houston? Not interested.
You've got to go not interested. No thank you, Elon.
I'm telling you, dude, it makes a huge difference for me, man, just getting off that shit altogether. Yeah, for sure.
Because then it's like, dude, women now look like fucking artificial beings. They're chasing an ideal that's just completely artificial, and're shredding themselves into oblivion.
Man, some of the most beautiful women, they go get all these surgeries and I don't want to offend nobody saying is this blah blah? No, we can edit whatever. They do all that work and start looking like a wild wild west.
It's a fair point. They're getting more gay.
The women are getting more gay.

The guys are getting more gay.

They've been gay.

True.

Every woman got an ounce of gay in them.

You know what I'm saying?

Women tell me that.

Or like, all of them are little bi.

You know what I'm saying?

For sure.

But with that, it's like they doing it to oppress themselves.

Because all that, I still like natural bodies.

Every female don't got to have the fattest ass.

For sure.

You know what I'm saying?

I still like little shit like freckles, the normal shit.

You know what I'm saying?

I like normal hips and shit.

But then they going to get them hard-ass titties.

Ladies, you know how hard it is to have sex with them hard-ass titties?

I don a nigga. I'm a layer.
So I like to lay on you and shit like that. Then I'm already kind of big.
So I'm putting them down rocks into my titties and then your titties. I'm like goddamn.
They're boring into you. They're just fucking digging into your body.
But they look good though. You know some ladies like, you know, man, whatever build your self-esteem, you want to do that shit, I'm all for it.
You know what I'm saying? Yeah, but they're not building their self-esteem. They have fucking, they're getting like, they're shooting, I think Botox is like snake venom.
It relaxes your nervous system, your muscles in your face. I was just saying that so I don't get canceled.
No, dude, they're not. They need to hear it.
They need to hear it, dude. I mean, I'm not like trying to be like a big hard ass like fucking ladies listen up but it's like dude if you think about it like we've i mean dude we've got there was if you read if you ever listen to like the brave new world or read it out as huxley's like a book about the future he had this big thing where it was like we've traded like real interpersonal communications for he called it the pneumatic ideal, which is like women specifically are like the women of the future.
He predicted it would just be like pumped full of air to give her a pleasing appearance. But then men would fall in love with this thing.
That's essentially hollow and worthless. It's kind of fucked up.
But if you think about it, dude, it's like, so you have women. If you think about women and only fans, it's like, all right, we can do only fans.
We can make millions of dollars,

blah,

blah, blah,

blah,

blah.

It's like,

dude,

and I'm not saying this to be a dickhead.

This is,

I think scientific fact,

they'd be happier to have a kid.

Right.

It's like,

you could just put up like neurological brain scans and say,

all right,

what do you,

what,

what is there more nerve,

you know,

like serotonin and like dopamine.

You can measure the chemicals,

which are flowing more when you're holding your child or if you're stiff like putting like marbles up your asshole on a camera hands down dude it's like not even close it's not even close so it's like yeah dude but then you know it's it's like but then if you can make millions of dollars as everyone's fapping to it it's like for sure you know i've done dude i'm i'm an avid fapper dude and i've been trying i trying. I've been off, thank God.
Because once you have kids, you have to stop.

Man, my daughter made me stop.

Plus, my baby mama, it was just to the point where, like, it was fucking up our relationship.

Porn, watching that shit, you know what I'm saying?

Did you ever get caught?

I just get caught jacking off and trying to play sleep.

Like, what the hell you doing?

Or, like, she'll walk out and try to play sleep. but then I got my third leg standing up, so the cover just...
It sucks when they catch you, dude. The craziest part was when my mama first called me.
I tried to play sleep, and she snatched the cover in the back. Oh! And then like, she go to Bath and Body Works, and she got a, it was called Cherry Blossom.
So the whole room smelled like Cherry Blossom. I'm like, fuck.
I know the exact scent. But like, once you got to a certain age, because I got cousin named Big Steve.
And since I got caught jacking off, you know, you with the boys, they're going to always tease you. Then once everybody turned 30, they all admit it.
Nigga, we all do it. We men, we all do it.
We just come to you because you got caught, fool. And shit like that.
Who do you get caught by? I got caught by my mama. I got caught by my brother before.
Damn. I got caught by one of my older sisters.
My manu. And I got caught.
That sucks, dude. Yeah, man.
You got to be bad. I've gotten caught so many times, dude.
It's embarrassing. It sucks.
For sure. And there's no way.
I just got caught this weekend. There's no way.
I snuck off to the shower in the morning. I thought it was safe.
I was like, look, I'm not going to bother you. And then she was like, what are you doing in there? And I was like, same thing.
Standing in the shower. They be annoying.
That's what fuck it up. I'm like, shut the fuck up.
I was trying to. That's my thing.
I'm trying to be nice because I'm not trying to bother you. I'm like, all right.
I'm like, let's just get out of here. We got to fly today.
I'm going to rub one out real quick. We'll get on the plane.
She goes, what are you doing? And I was like, standing in the shower with a boner. Like, no, I just woke up.
It's natural. And she was like, I saw what you were doing.
And I was like, no, you didn't. And then like, you know, then I'm caught lying.
I'm like, God damn it. And I'm like, yes, I was.
Why do they try to make us feel so fucking bad? I feel like the worst person on earth. But that's the thing, too.
I feel like a lot of the shame is like just self-possessed. Because she's like, yeah, want to do it, go ahead.
I don't mind. She's like, I was just like, oh, shit.
Kind of spun it into some freaky morning stuff, but it was like... Sometimes they do.
It depends on how they coming. We had our own little, what was it called? The Young King Party? What's that? I'm sorry.
It was like the latest Diddy thing where he wasn't having freak-offs. They were Young King parties.
I'm sorry. Young King nights or something.
I ain't going to lie. I used to go to Diddy's son parties.
Did you really? Yeah, I never seen that shit. But I never go upstairs.
I know, like, I'm at a party. It's in my house.
I'm here. I'm thugging.
But I went to a Halloween party one time, and I didn't know there was Diddy inside the It costume. He was walking around and shit, but I'd never seen that kind of like, I come in, me and my niggas.
This is back before I was on liquor. Now I drink liquor party.
I was on lean, so I'm in there like, weak-ass Robert Steen. Come on, y'all, let's go.
Shit like that, you know what I'm saying? I ain't never see that shit. Well, yeah, uh this was like a i don't get who the fuck knows anything about it but this i watched it you ever watch soft white underbelly i love it i love that fucking show dude yeah there was a lady who said she was there and it was much more like organized because it was like she was outside according to her she was outside there's like an outside of the party then there's like the inside and it's like back and forth and there's like.
And she says she was let into the inside and that's why a lot of people were there, but they were like, I don't really see anything because there's like a kind of like a party within the party that like is kind of selective and they have people. Someone reached out to her and was like, we want you to come in.
And then she came in and she was like, I just saw some pretty wild shit and was like, just took off. Yeah.
But it's a shame that happened because now everyone's on. They ain't going to select me for no shit like that.
Well, everyone's on high guard now because it's like, it just sucks. It's like everyone, it was like the Epstein thing.
When Epstein got in trouble, everyone was like, you motherfuckers are all child molesters. And it's like, bro, I promise you I didn't do that.
Yeah, for sure. Yeah, it's tough.
But the Young King Knight is, I mean, from a branding perspective, from just a brand, it's such a funny thing to call, you know, whatever the fuck he was doing. Niggas can't even have party nights no more.
It's got to be board games now. I just go to the club.
That's my color. The booty club.
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Rated M for Mature. Yeah, so I was actually curious about that.
What's the etiquette? So say, like, you're in the club. Right, right.
You're there. There's, like, girls around and stuff.
Do you ever, like, fart in the club, or do you try to, like, keep that to a minimum? I mean, shit. If I do, I do it real subtle, and I make it a poop, and I move a lot of people so I can blame somebody else.
You know what I'm saying? But it depends. If Lloyd, I can see you right there, I'm like, yo, bitch, that's why I farted.
You know what I'm saying? Something because they my boys. But like, around one of the strippers, I was like, hey, that's you.

Get out there. Get up in.
How often does that happen to somebody who just crush a club with a hard fart?

I don't know.

What made you ask me that?

You're talking about the club, and I was curious about it.

Yeah, but like, farting is crazy, but I don't know.

That's what I'm saying. I don't know what everybody else

booty doing, but I know that I might poo a couple

of times throughout the night. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah, I've never heard a rapper mention. You hear all this stuff about the club.
I never heard anyone mention farting in the club. Farting in the club.
I know it happens. Man, the most smell you're going to smell in a strip club is a female with bad pH.
Yeah, true. That is a different – that's probably a battle of sex.
And then it's so fucked up. I could tell, like, certain pH is like, okay, that smells like salmon.
I don't know what she will. Then you smell another one like, okay, no, she's in a relationship.
Whoever she fucking with keeps nothing in her and throwing off her pH. It's different smells to the pH.
Or you might be like, she coming off a period. Oh, man.
Yeah, that makes sense. That's crazy you're getting this close up on them.
Yeah, there is. There's the fit.
Bro, come on.

You know, sometimes they throwing that ass in your face.

I might be shooting a video.

It's true.

No, it's true.

That's actually fucking awesome, by the way.

Man, I know a nigga that was in a strip club.

He got this close.

He got pink eye.

What?

Pink eye the next day.

There's a strip club in Philly if you're ever there.

I actually don't even recommend you go there.

Is it on the northwest side?

No, this is in, like, South Philly.

It's called Show and Tell.

Oh, no. But they would have, what was the one you were talking about? Hey, what's the name of that strip club? Huh? Set It Off.
No, I don't know about Set It Off. I've never been.
But Show and Tell was BYU. You bring your own beer, and you can go there when you're like 18, whatever.
Right. And they used to, when I was younger, they had live dildo shows where they would have women on stage.
And dude, these were like, these are clearly like addicted to heroin. These were like junkies on stage, like fucking band-aids on their butt.
Like it was bad. And they would just fucking like dildo each other.
And then they would like reach it into the crowd and the dudes would be like, whoa, like dipping away. Like get that the fuck away from me.
See y'all doing, y'all doing, see y'all here, we just got, it it be like bad bitches white black Puerto Rican like all like you know what I'm saying the bad ones someone got their body done but Texas it's a lot of thick when we having a lot of thick shit out there so like that's what our strip club be on the east coast y'all strippers be ugly y'all bartenders be the shit it's true like y'all should be like the gun wounds, style wounds, all that kind of shit. And then they're going to get money.
Missing tooth. Meanwhile, the bartender got 30 tricks.
She probably making 30K a night like Bernice Berger said. You know what I'm saying? It's money in New York.
It's money in Philly. Yeah.
Like when them niggas trick, they trick hard. So the bartender's living in luxury and the strippers really broke.
But in Houston, it's opposite. Really? Hell yeah.
It actually should be, though. The bartender should be kind of like busted and the strippers should be broke.
I mean, they make it, but our bartender's not better than the strippers. That's a weird thing I never thought about because the bartender's always like.
Why they do that? I don't know, man. I don't know.
But I think what they usually do is, what I've heard is they can kind of entice a woman into the bartending position. Like, no, you're just a bartender.
Then slowly try to get her up on stage. But nah, it's like, if you know, like, if you go to Starlitz, if you go to, like, Atlantis, like, in New York, or, like, in Philly, I forgot they won a strip club in Philly.
Like, the bartenders is where it's at. I know.
Trust me, I've definitely seen this. Like, that's like the prime thing.
I'm like, that's just weird because they're not the ones shaking ass. They do a little something, something, but they're just like, you know, held on the pedestal.
They be bad, too, though. They be some bad.
I ain't going to lie. East Coast got some badass bartenders.
Yeah, I might, you know, I've been kind of like hot for like a charitable cause. I might go back to Philly and try to get like to thicken the strippers up.
That could be my charity. Yeah, for sure.
Feed them properly. Raise awareness.
Because, dude, there's some really scraggly. Corn, bread, and cabbage.
True. Get them right.
There's some really scraggly. Like, dude, it's pretty.
I used to deliver beer, and I would go deliver beer to the strip clubs. And I would go in there at 12 noon, just dropping cases of beer off.
And you would see the dudes in there at you ever go like in the afternoon time which I have done myself dude it's nice you can sit there and talk you can like talk to them but that's more but like you know I'm black you white even though you black you still white so like at the same time it's like y'all wanna go because look this is all right look this is how the black man cheat on their wife or like cheat. You know what I'm saying? Not saying you don't do the hits.
He's a very good man. My boy don't do that.
But I'm just busting down how we do it. Well, how people do it.
Black man. Yeah, baby, I'm going to be out at the boys.
I got studio all night. It's going to be some real nighttime shit.
So it's some nighttime, very sneaky, club woo-woo. The white man, white collar man they work and go like, whenever like, them paralegal niggas are like lawyers and niggas with money like the white collar crime or like just the, like that type.
So lunches at noon, right? They gonna fuck the men's club up. They be in there with they suits, all that shit,

the guys drinking beer and they're tipping big ass money,

fucking up they mortgage salaries,

but they gonna get it back

on these strippers during the day.

So that's what the white men do.

He's like,

they go to a strip club.

Because like, you know,

I know a lot of strippers.

Like, they be telling me

that they make more money

than doing the day shift

than the night shift.

Or they might work at like St. James,

which is like kind of a cabaret

where like,

why do white men wanna talk

at the strip club?

Y'all always wanna grab

I was trying to get is like kind of a cabaret where like, why do white men want to talk at the strip club? Y'all always want to grab a stripper and talk to them. Dude, I love that.
So they'll grab one because then look, they be like conversation rule the nation. So if the girl got good conversation, she could break them for more money.
Niggas want to go stand on the couch and hit in the head with money, throw it up, shoot a music video with it. Like, you know what I'm saying? There's different etiquettes.
True, there is. So that's why you like going to the strip club.
I love the daytime. They get too active at nighttime.
During the day, you can talk to them. At nighttime, it's like the flip switches and they're just too like...
For sure. You can really talk to them.
And it's also like, I used to love to just ask them, like, what's like the craziest shit? Like, what's like the weirdest request you've ever had? Just out of personal curiosity? Dude, it's pretty jarring. Have you ever gotten into that with him? Hell yeah.
I know one girl. It ain't that bad, but a nigga be giving me $4,000 in a video just to sneeze.
What? That's pretty fucking weird. Really? Sneeze.
Like to sneeze. One time he said, walk in the room, turn around and sneeze.
Gave her like $3,500. What? For a video.
She wasn't even naked or nothing. Everybody, I don't know, people be having different fetishes and shit.
Yeah, I talked to one lady one time who said that she got, I think like $2,000 or $1,000 for a guy would, or she would have her and her friends like pee in like a bar and they'd have to watch he would drink their pee at the bar and give them like two grand. Yeah, that's crazy.
Yeah, pretty tight. I mean, it's cool to be that.
Would you do that? No, dude, hell no. Just for health reasons, I wouldn't drink.
Drinking piss is crazy. Stripper pee would get you fucked up, though.
If you drank stripper pee, you would probably get kind of fucked up. But you know what's crazy? A lot of girls like to be peed on.
Really? Hell yeah. I didn't know that.
Yeah, I just learned that. They like it? They like that shit.
Shower? They like this new little wave of women, like 25 and shit like that. They like that.
And they like to eat ass.

Man, Free R. Kelly.

Yeah, I don't know.

Way ahead of his time.

A man ahead of his time, a sexual pioneer.

You know what I'm saying?

And they like to eat ass.

That shit is crazy.

Yeah, I've heard they all eat ass.

I'm like, what the fuck?

Yeah.

Hell no, I don't know how to feel.

Think about it.

How do I position myself?

I do.

And feel like a man. There's no good way to do it.
After getting your ass ate. Squat.
You could squat over her. Man, come on, man.
No. Now I feel like I'm getting hit.
Yeah. I mean, that's what I'm saying.
And then I'm a man, so I hang. I have a limb.
You eating my ass. Now I feel like you eating my pussy or something.
I feel like a bitch. Yeah, this is what's happening.
The girls are trying to capture men by reflecting what they're seeing in pornography and everyone's getting increasingly more gay. Which, it's one of those things where people aren't even going to care about gay stuff in 40 years anyway.
You could be dying on a hill that doesn't matter. I don't got no problem with no gay people.
For sure. And plus, there's nothing gay that you could do with a woman.
That's what I'm saying. It'd be some shit crazy.
One time I was having sex with my baby mother. She licked myipple.
And I was like, oh, what the fuck was that? That's undeniable. That shit.
I was like, what is it? Do I like this? Everyone does. You can't argue with that.
It's unbelievable. That's like, that's my go-to, personally.
Where? Yeah, if I'm on top, I'll be like, come on. I need you.
I need you. Oh, I'm not going to know what she.
You don't need rhinos, dude. You just need her to latch on there.
Dude, you're fucking. It just be the Adderall.
Dan, look, this is the thing. Because Adderall are going to have you all gummy worm.
You feel me? You're going to be hella gummy worm. But after that whole kick back out and that rhino's stealing you, you're going to be like.
True. Knocking over shit.
You know what I'm saying? So here's the thing, though. With the rhinos, don't you worry like, you know, you're going to start, it becomes like something you need every time.
Hell no, because see, now that I'm drug free, you know what I'm saying, I don't do nothing no more. I'm prescribed Adderall, though.
Nice. I know how to take it in doses.
Like, you don't go by the biggest one and just, hell no. Like, that shit going to hurt.
Like, you're going to be on hold so bad bad you hurt. You take it, you open the cap, you put a little bit.
Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Hit on the gums, hitting your tongue or something, hit like with like a little water or something just to get you a little.
Yeah. Not all the way like that.
You don't need that much help. You might, it's like lifting weights.
You got it, but you might need that little boost. But you don't need somebody to lift the whole thing for you.
Do you drink coffee or just like you like to – are you talking about the little time-release balls or you like the powder? Nah, so Rhino got like a little – it's like a five-hour inch. Oh, you're saying with the Rhino you take a little powder.
Oh, hell yeah. I thought you were saying you're cracking Adderall capsules.
I mean, I do that too. Yeah.
That's how I take it because we're really by bands.

Yeah.

Because by bands are more cleaner

and it's kind of

be like stronger

and it's time release.

So I put a little

bit right there

to hear like that.

Damn.

Somebody told me,

Max, so you do Adderall,

just do Coke, man.

They were like,

bro, Coke is like

Adderall's big cousin.

I'm like, bro,

hell no.

It's kind of a brilliant

way to put it,

but yeah, that's.

Because if you snort a lime, you'll smoke a dime. True.
And it's also the fentanyl, dude. That's another reason, see, back when I was doing pills and shit like that, like the drug rap era that I came up in and shit like that, wasn't no fentanyl and Xanax and shit like that.
You know what I'm saying? Don't get me wrong. I thought Xanax was the dumbest drug.

I was like, why the fuck did I do that shit back in the day?

So stupid.

Then I used to pop perks.

Perks wasn't that bad.

Perk 10 is not that bad.

You know what I'm saying?

But when they on Roxy's, Oxys, and that shit got the pin in it,

it's the worst shit you ever seen.

It's like, why do you want to be a zombie slumped over?

That's how you get robbed, beat up, taking advantage of.

Or you're going to wake up in jail. Yeah.
Well, the problem, the perks lead to the Roxy's, Oxys, and all that stuff. That's how you get robbed, beat up, taking advantage of.
Or like, you're going to wake up in jail. Yeah, well the problem, the perks lead to the Roxy's Oxys and all that stuff.
That's a problem. I knew dudes that would take like 30 in a weekend.
It's like, bro. Yeah, I was never that.
But see, I took them like in a weekend, probably 10. But I never got hooked.
Like, I don't got like an addicting personality like that. Like, I used to sibling like a motherfucker.
Yeah. All that.
I do not got a sibling. Like, I've been...
Okay, I sip like two months ago when it was a cup. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm from Houston.
So that's our culture. Let's say on my brother's death day, we're going to toast a cup.
Oh, it's Christmas. We got all the kids' toys and shit.
All the men outside, we toasting a cup like that. You know what I'm saying? But I don't have to go buy a pint every day, sipping shit like that.
Like, my dad never had addictive personality, and my shit not addictive like that. Like, I can stop cold turkey when I want.
Yeah, I'm the same way. I've tried Percocets, all that stuff.
I didn't really care for them. I was always like, it's a waste of money.
I'm not wasting money on them. But I got one time, my sister had bronchitis, I think.
So they gave her the promethazine, like a bottle of it. And me and my brother, it was like the day before Thanksgiving, whatever.
I forget. I think it was the day before Easter.
So we were all home at my parents' house. We went to a bar.
We got drunk the night before. And then we come back, and we're in the bathroom.
And I open the little drug cabinet. I show my brother's hammer.
And I wasn't that drunk, but I was like, he was shit-faced. Andfaced and i grabbed the bottle of promethazine i just untwisted it but i put my tongue over the cap and i pretended like i was chugging like a bunch of it and he's like give me that shit i'll do right now he chugged like a good amount of it damn and he woke up the next day with a hangover and also just like fucked up from that shit he literally all day we were in church he was just sitting there like this like yeah all fucked Like, what did he drink last night? Because that permethazine, it's going to hit you harder than lean.
Because, like, the codeine and shit, it help you lean. The permethazine puts you straight down.
Yeah. Then not only that, I remember when I, so my transition to drinking liquor, I was still on lean.
So I sip lean during the day. Go out.
I'm in L.A. We partying hard drinking liquor.
Then I remember it was a month where everything I ate, I throw up. I thought I had a stomach bug.
But no, I was sipping, leaning, and licking the same day. Oh, dude.
Yeah. It fucks you up.
Yeah. Thank God I don't do that no more.
Yeah, because especially, did you like pass out? Did you get like real tired or were you like, because anyone I knew who was on a lot of pills, you go out and have one drink with them and they were like. The thing is, pills, like, by that time, I was like, I wasn't really doing pills like that.
It was more just lean. Yeah.
You know what I'm saying? Lean and liquor. But shit, I was sipping so hard, like, my tolerance was higher than the motherfucker.
Yeah. I was really like, I used to sip like six lines to like four lines a day.
I was down to a deuce a day. So you know what I'm saying? It wasn't that damn bad.
But now, if, like, I sit one line, I'll be sleeping the whole day.

And that's an ounce, right?

Yeah, a line is an ounce.

Six is a lot.

Yeah, six is a lot.

My friend drank four and crashed his car into a hill.

We tried to sell.

We tried to sell.

It was probably all, like, watered down.

But we, like, got my magazine and tried to sell it in the suburbs.

And I remember being like, all right, dude, hide this at your house.

I'll be back for it.

He just drank the whole thing, crashed into a hill.

I was like, dude.

He's tripping.

He sucks, dude. But now I dropped him a four.
But, like but that's what they did. They take a 20 ounce, drop a four.
Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Then you know when you'll drink muddy because you're dropping the lean and it changed the temperature.
Like the drink not even cold no more because you put so much mud in there. You know what I'm saying? So mud is the lean.
Mud is lean. So let me run down all the slams for you.
Because I'm pretty bought, like, K-Ro syrup. I think we got ripped off.
That's what they said. You got to watch for people.
So, they going to call it mud. They going to call it oil.
They going to call it drink. Yeah.
Shit. What else they call it? Texas tea.
Okay. Punch.
Like, a nigga call you like, hey, y'all got some punch over there? Y'all got some Texas tea? Something like that. Like, that's what they call it.
But isn't there different? There's, like, yellow, red, and purple. So let me tell you.
So red that I know was for high-tech red. So I think they got bought off by Acorn, and they stopped producing it like that.
That was the red. I love red.
Red came right after Activist. So it was Activist.
Like, when I started sipping, it was Activist. I know, like, the older niggas from, like, S-U-C, Houston, all the stuff, all the stuff, snipped up, all of them, they was sipping bar back in the day.
Bar and activists is the best tasting lean of all time. You know what I'm saying? It does taste pretty good.
Hell yeah. Then at the high tech, it was walk hard.
RIP to walk hard. People still going crazy over walk.
All the young niggas, but they never really had act. They really never sipped that shit, so they don't really know how that shit coming, but that's how you do it.
But the strongest lean is what's called Tessinex. That's the yellow.
Yeah. That's the snot.
You know what I'm saying? Ooh, that shit. So, like, one line of that is like a three of purple.
Really? Hell, yeah. Then you got green lean.
So green lean don't got codeine in it. It's just promethazine.
And then they do got one that got codeine. It's called Caraco.
But green lean is what like the hood niggas drink. That's like the Reggie.
Really? Like, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
So it's just the bullshit. Hell, yeah.
But it knock you down. It put you out.
Yeah, okay. But you got to be careful with that because niggas putting fit and all in that.
They putting fit and all in everything. I know.
I could have sworn somebody. I bought some weed from somebody that got so high.
I'm like, I ain't fucking with them. Well, you know what they're doing with weed, too, is they're taking, you know, like K2 and Spice and all that? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They're just taking this synthetic, like, cannabinoids and just, like, it's like THC and they just make it in a lab and it's, like, one molecule off. So it's, like, technically legal.
Right. And they just spray it on, like, shit weed and they're doing that now.
They have CBD, THC7, Delta 8. Yeah.
Yeah, it's kind of fucked up. And they just spray it on like shit weed and they're doing that.
CBD, THC

7, Delta 8.

Yeah. Yeah, it's kind of fucked up.
And now

weed's legal, dude. Like it's

not in Texas. Yes, it is.

Because here's the thing. They're doing Delta 9.

So with weed, you know, it's like

Delta 9 THC. That's the

illegal substance. You know how you

have to, when you make brownies, you have to heat weed up

to get that, like that whatever, carboxyl, they call it carboxylated. You got to heat have to, when you make brownies, you have to heat weed up.
Right. To get that,

that like that,

whatever carboxyl,

they call it carboxylated.

You got to heat it up to like make it active.

And all you're doing is,

so weed naturally is THC dash A.

It's a carbon molecule.

Right.

When you heat it up,

you remove the carbon molecule

and then you can like eat it

and get high from it.

Right.

So they're just testing weed as is,

as THCA and saying it's hemp.

Hell yeah.

It's totally legal.

You can get it shipped in Texas too. I got my own brand, But that's how you got to do it.
You got to say cannabis. Yes.
Once you say cannabis, that's just legal. And Trump made that shit.
I don't know. Look it up.
What's your brand? It's called Texas Tea. Oh, I see.
You get it like the lean, but it's on the serve., yeah. And then my overall brand is called Persona Pack.

Nice.

You know what I'm saying?

But even with, like, the weed shit, like, just how you go to the strip club during the day?

Yeah. I go at night.

You're a white, man.

They're going to impress me regardless.

You got to think I beat a Rico case.

Like, John, I got caught with 2,000 pounds.

You know what I'm saying?

Damn.

500K money in laundry.

That was before I signed my deal.

You know what I'm saying? So, that reputation. How many pounds again? 2,000.
So they were watching us, they said 2,000 pounds. A ton.
Hell yeah. Literally a ton.
You got caught with a ton of money. Hell yeah.
That's crazy. For sure, you can look that shit up.
How'd you beat it? How do you even? Shit. First of all, I go hire Ken Schaefer.
You know what I'm saying? He taxed the fuck out of my young guys. Had to get him a honey K.
I was hurt. I was hurt.
But yeah. So hire him.
Don't get in no more trouble. Let this shit fight out.
And then let TACA and Delta 9 come into play around 2020. Know your damn case.
Go on tour. Go on the run.
Come back. Go to jail for a month.
Walk in front of the judge. Dismissed.
That's awesome, man. They offered me eight years.
What? I offered the mother's side. I was like, damn, I didn't take that shit.
For weed, bro. For weed.
You got white men out here making billions off the shit and you worried about little old me. Yeah, it's ridiculous.
Dude, I had a guy on who was, he got caught, he was a white dude, he got caught selling LSD in 92. Right.
Dude, he got caught with, he didn't get caught with anything personally. It was just all, he was sending Western unions and they like traced it back to him.
Right. Dude, they wanted to give him like 35, 30 years, I think, for like maybe a couple sheets of acid, like something crazy.
So they're like, but the weed, they were really killing people. And now it's like, nobody wants to be the last prosecutor.
Happened to Kamala. She was fucking crushing people on like bullshit weed charges.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Landscape shifts.
And now it's like, yeah, remember you throw those people in jail and it fucking killed her. So I don't think, I don't think judges, if they have political, like they want to rise in the political world, want to be the last guy.
That's crazy. Like y' really stopping family.
Bro, listen. This is one thing about weed.
Lean, yes, I might fight you over that shit. You know what I'm saying? Get mad.
Perks, yes, they fuck with you. It's people that back in the day in the streets that we probably seen each other, shout out, fought, but we met over a blunt of weed and became best friends for life.
Yeah. Or they found bro, weed is so cool.
Once I started smoking weed with people and shit, meeting new people, networking, it's like a spiritual bond, pause. But it's like it is something about smoking a blunt with somebody like it is so real.
It is so real about sharing a blunt like, you know what I'm saying? It ain't like we smoking Roxy's together or some shit of heroin. You feel me? But I heard in Portland, you can walk around with like an eighth of heroin, an eighth of cocaine, and not go to jail.
Yeah, I think they did that there. I don't know how it's going to work.
I mean, hopefully. No, they've been doing it.
Yeah. You know, I totally decriminalized it.
Hell yeah, I was on tour. Every time I go to tour, they say that shit.
I'm like, that's crazy. I don't want to get too political, but I know why they do that.

Why?

Because there ain't that many

motherfucking black people

in Portland.

And then most of the people

that use it,

they be,

yo,

your color,

and shit.

They be like drugged out,

but they be functional as fuck.

That's kind of nice.

They be having a family,

like,

they be running shit,

they functional as fuck.

You know what I'm saying?

So they probably let that shit

slide up there.

Houston,

better not get caught with no dog food. Better not get caught with no cocaine.
Yeah, you go to jail. Mandatory minimum.
Yeah, hell yeah. You're going to go to jail for sure.
Yeah, Philly's like that, though. Philly, they like to criminalize weed.
But yeah, if you get caught with heroin or coke, maybe, I don't know. We had that guy who was just, like, letting everything go for a while.
But I don't think it really worked that well. Yeah, for sure.
They didn't let weed be all the way legal in Texas. I don't know why they doing all that.

It's coming. You got all these people from California moving.
People from California with a bunch of money

are moving here, and they're going to be like, bro,

knock it off. But now you can have

like, I guess Austin, they don't really care.

See, Austin, see you in Austin.

Austin don't give a flying fuck. Yeah, they don't care.

Like, this is like the most coolest spot in Texas.

Like, on like some chill hippie

bob shit. I love the shows in Austin.
I love how the fans react. They gonna buy the fuck out some merch.
Like, they support for real. Yeah.
But, yeah, I heard if you leave Austin in another part of Texas, you can get, like, locked up for a vape cartridge. Man.
Oh, that's a feeling. Nah, that's a feeling.
You get caught with a vape cartridge in Houston, that's a controlled substance. So that's like having crack cocaine.
That's like having perks. That's like having that.
Damn, that's crazy. Hell yeah.
Like kids, like y'all at school, that marijuana, vape cartridge, y'all really fucking up. It's not like getting caught with no goddamn.
It's not like getting caught with a gun or weed in Texas. You get caught with a gun, it's whatever.
You know what I'm saying? That's crazy. Like that's like class B misdemeanor.
Even if you underage, you know what I'm saying? You get caught with that controlled succulent. All right, look, you know a lot about weed.
You got to get the butane out of it to make the rise and all that shit. You got to manufacture it, the weed.
You know what I'm saying? So once you're doing that, it's a controlled substance. It's no longer just an herb.
Oh, because, yeah, you process it. You know what I'm saying? Hell, yeah, so you process it.
So that's how they charge that. Jesus Christ.
Yeah, I remember talking to someone who got pulled over and said, yeah, I was in jail for vape cartridges. What? Because in Philly, they really don't care.
In Philly, you can get caught with even years ago. I feel like they would really get you in the early 2000s.
But in Philly today, if you got caught with five pounds of weed, I don't know if you'd even go to jail. Man, I'd be hearing people getting pulled over in Houston, five pounds, 20 pounds.
They just taking it or, like, not giving a fuck. That shit would have my heart do-do, do-do, just because of what I went through.
And, like, bro, they had me on the news. They made it seem like I was just El Chapo, which I probably was on the weed shit.
You know what I'm saying? A thousand pounds is a lot, man. Yeah, but it's not all right.
I'm not robbing nobody. No.
I wasn't harming nobody. And everybody that came to me wanted this drug that's legal at 90% of the goddamn state.
Yeah, no, it's kind of bullshit. You kind of got in.
That was like the perfect timing, man. Five years ago, you would have been, five years before that, they probably would have booked you completely.
Nah, for sure. Bro, it's still niggas doing time, bro.
When I had to just go and do that like that little mutt to get off this shit to beat it, it was niggas in there. Nigga had 18 days for nine doobies.
What? Yeah, I ain't going to lie. I would have resisted and been mad as fuck and acting a fool.
Like, how many fucked up? 18 days for a joint sucks. Yeah, Texas is way behind, I feel like, anywhere else in the country.
Like, flying, you can fly with weed. They don't give a fuck at all.
They don't give a damn. They don't care at all.
They don't give a damn. Carry on all that.
Do that shit in Houston. I never fly at the airport with weed.
I don't care if it's one blunt. I'm going to smoke it in the car before I get it.
Yeah, yeah. I'm like, hell nah.
I've been pushing to the limit. I've chilled because I talk about it publicly.
I've been pushing. If I go to Denver and come back, it's like I'll fly with a couple ounces and just, you know, pucker up my butthole through security and just fucking go through it.
But they don't care. Dude, I've had a guy one time, because I, like, sometimes I'll fly with my kids and, like, bring, like, I brought, like, a jar of peanut butter home one time.
And they were, like, they moved literally weed out of the way and were, like, what's this? Peanut butter. And they're, like, you can't be bringing this.
And I was just, like, hey, man, take the peanut butter. No liquids.
There it go. There it go through your bag, all that shit.
I bring a mouthwash. They go through my bag.
You know what I'm saying? Shit like that. Yeah, I had one guy one time give me shit when I was leaving.
I had just a pack of pre-roll joints. He's like, why are you hiding these? I'm like, I'm not hiding them.
I was like, I just put them in. I put them in a thing so they didn't smell because I don't want to be rude on the airplane.
He's like, well, it's not that you have them. It's that you're hiding them from me.
I'm like, I don't give a fuck that you have them, man. I was like, if you go to take them, take them.
TSA take tripping. I'm like, dude, how do I say this? See, y'all be worried about bombs on the plane? Yeah.
Worry about some other shit. Dude, like, bro, I don't even like heights.
I ain't about to do nothing to the plane. Do not harass me, leave me alone.
And my jury will always go off. That's a good point.
Dude, I'm scared of heights. I'm like, bro, then my jury will always go off.
Then I get so fucking mad because now they going through my shit. They grab your dick too, dude.
Do you have to go through the thing? Yes, bro. But see, I learned how to do it now.
I go in, pull my pants all the way the fuck up. I don't wear jeans, buttons, nothing that's going to go off, nothing.
I wear a Nike tech suit, pull my shit all the way up. Like, goddamn, like, I for sure got to wear you.
Pull that motherfucker up, hands up. Because they always choose the weirdest dude.
Then they try to run it down. You want to do it here or a private round? Go like this, down the back, down the middle.
But you got some dudes, they be cool. They don't really be trying to do it.
For sure, yeah. Some niggas make sure they go down your ass.
We have a friend, dude. Dude, our friend Nate, I don't know what it is.
He was with Shane the one time. They absolutely molested him.
Then he was with me the one time. And I turned around and like, dude, they were just all over this guy.
And it keeps happening to him. Yeah.
It sucks, man. He got to switch it up.
It's something. He's got to pull his fucking pants up.
I'm going to tell him. Hike your fucking pants.
Although his pants are pretty hiked. That's a good.
Why do you think pulling your pants up helps? I don't know. But if I don't, it always goes right there.
Like where my dick is. I'm like, what the? I'm like, who fucking with me in here? Somebody's fucking with me.
Happened to Shannon Sharpie said. They thought his dick was something other than a dick.
And they were like, he spazzed out. I would have went home.
Like I kissed'd kiss my ass. Like, no, I'm at the pool in here now.
Shit, I'd be glad for them to be like, what the fuck is that? They know it. I'm not.
They're going, yeah. They don't even make me walk through the metal detectors.
They're like, man, just go ahead, little guy. You're all right.
Let's go. You want to go with the pilot? I go, yeah, thanks, man.
They give me the little pilot wings and smack me on the butt and they go, get on the plane, little guy. Damn.
So you can get caught with a gun in Texas and it's not as much trouble as... It ain't shit.
Even if it's like a modified... I don't went to jail with my gun and got out.
They gave it back to me, but they ain't giving back the bullets. What? But it was licensed, though.
You had it in your name. Hell no.
What? Just carrying it. Damn, they give it back? Hell yeah.
Kind of chill. Why'd they give it back, do you think? Because in Philly, they fucking crush you for guns.
Because we got open carry. And it's really been open carry.
You feel me? So the only time they had a trip, it depends what territory you're in. Let's say if I'm on Bissignet, depending on the cop, they'll be like, oh, he's a gang member.
I'm gonna take you to jail for this. Class B, Mr.
Manny, because you're a gang member. But now, I had so much success, the police be pulling me over to take pictures.
That's cool. They're like, hey, Max, you don't got a registration.
You wanna take a picture? So this is for my kid. That's kind of tight.
Then, like, I bought a Trackhawk. That's the most stolen car.
Like, like, Hellcats and Trackhawks. Demons and shit.

So they'll pull me over, make sure it's not stolen.

Then realize who I am and take a picture and be like,

if we ever see this car stolen, we're going to get it back for you.

That's nice.

Hell yeah.

That's the first time they're on my side.

How do you feel about that?

Nah, them cars get stolen every day.

Do they really?

How do you feel about them being on your side, I'm saying?

Because they're not on my side with the ends on my side. But then I realized I'm 34.
Some of these kids are my age. Some of them younger than me.
Some of them love my music. So it be give and take.
Yeah. Dude, I never, like, growing up in my family, we didn't really have any cops.
My mom's cousin was a detective. But really, we had zero, mostly.
And, like, the immediate family, there was zero. My dad was, like, they did, like, trash.
So so they he's always like they're a fucking pain in the ass they pull your trucks over i never really got to interact with police people like police officers at all and then my wife when we after a couple years of dating became a cop it was the craziest thing in the fucking world she just became a cop and i got to like meet cops and talk like my wife now she's a cop she's not she retired quickly but it was uh she was a philly cop for like and she had gone to school for like criminal forensics so she was like trying to get into a lab and like well if you're sworn in it just whole thing she's like fuck it i'll just become a cop dude it was and dude i had like pounds of weed in my face yeah that's what yeah i'm about to ask you she ever threatened to lock your ass up she would fuck around she would it, but never. Right.
She never crossed that line of being seriously like that. I'd be scared to date a cop.
Yeah. It was kind of cool, though, because I got to really interact with cops a lot and get to really understand how they're ticking away.
For sure. And that's all they want.
If they pull you over, they just want you to be like, damn dude, like you have the hardest job ever and just really pump them up. Like bro, nobody.
And it's, it actually is true. Cause I like inner, I like got to like hear about what, what they're dealing with the shit.
And I'm like, it is literally the worst fucking job ever. If you get pulled up, you turn the light on right away in the interior.
Like it's the worst legal job. I'd say selling crack worse.
Yeah, I could see that. Yeah.
it'd be better if I were selling crack. I would envy a cop, for sure.
Especially if it all came crashing down. I could have had benefits.
I could have had health care. The cops, it depends on what kind of cop, because it's really cops that help the community.
We had cops that come make sure the kids good. Be like, hey, man, y'all over here, move that around.
The kids come and shit like that, because they're in the community. It's It's not like you don't know them.
Yeah. But then we got a cop.
He's a gang bang on us. Gang bang on us.
He's a nice man. He come on the block.
He throw a CK. That's Crip Killer to all the Crips.
We'll be laughing recording him, though. Nigga took me to jail, jamming my music.
Like, yeah, man. Then there was another cop.
I think his name is Jordan. He was like, how to? Wait, who are the Crip Killer? They just made up their own thing? No.
So my my block is a lot of Crips. Yeah, yeah.
With the Crips and shit like that. So, oh yeah, you know, duh.
Yeah, so he would throw, he'd come on out black and throw a Crip Killer and then be telling us like, yeah, I was down the street, they killing y'all right now. They're buying cars.
Ooh, ooh, he messy. He funny though.
Funny. That is kind of funny.
Yeah, my wife said there was a lot of that. There was people who are like day yes and like and it's one of those things where there's she's like there's not technically a quota but they're on your ass about they call it activity where they're like hey man you don't have any activity and if you're going and like getting guns and all this stuff you're like your promotion's just kind of awaiting you but then there's like then like you know because they get down on people like yeah he's a fucking bum he doesn't do anything but but my wife she's small she's like a small lady and she would just what she would get on is like when she would see kids that aren't in car seats she would she would devastate she would like no mercy on that shit and uh other than that she didn't really give a fuck about anything but she was just making sure people weren't doing anything crazy and the domestics are that's the weird part when you got to go into like fights between couples oh yeah yeah.
That shit sucks man. Hell yeah.
I hate arguments. You know what's crazy though? Like the older I get paying taxes and shit like that I still got this mindset of the police have to be woo woo but it's not really like that bro.
Like not no more bro. Like and it's crazy like a lot of people I went to school with I'm starting to see like they police officers.
You know what I'm saying? Shit like that. Like it ain't that bad.
It's just like when you against the system. Cause like not all of them fucked up.
Just like not every person or every game banger you meet is fucked up. Like not every rapper is a stuck up narcissist, dumb ass that they're bigger than the world.
For sure, yeah. But 99% of them for sure.
Yeah, that's like cops. There's like, there are a lot of them that were like, oh, yeah, you're the exact stereotype people talk about with cops.
There's a lot of those guys. I ain't going to lie, though.
If I was a cop, I would be catching niggas on point. I know every day.
They would hate me. They would hate me because I'd know.
I'd be like, yep, I know what them niggas doing. Come in, nigga.
What y'all doing? There was a guy, whatchamacallit, there was these dudes in Baltimore that were doing, they were called backpack pops, where they was, you know, and it's like, it is kind of like, they must know what's going on. If they see a guy with, like, a little, like, school bag or a backpack, they would just, because it's like, if you see a dude who's not school-aged with a backpack, he's selling fucking drugs.
Like, no one's just walking around with a school bag. Besides me, I carry my laptop in there right now.
Nah, for sure. But it's one of those, and they would just pull up and be like, get out of the, and they would just ditch the backpack, and they're like, sweet sweet, just take it.
And they were robbing people doing that. Nah, cops did that a lot.
Like, I done had cops pull up, take lean from me, take my guns. They took, before being county, I took $100 from me.
This last time when I had went to jail. But I was so ready to get the fuck out.
I let y'all keep that little shit. But they be doing that.
Really? Yeah. Chains, jewelry, laptops.
They take it all. Especially your guns.
Yeah. Like guns and drugs.
Like sometimes you'll get booked and you'll think, well, shit, I ain't going to lie. If I got three pints of lean, you take me to jail, take that lean, bro.
I don't want you to put that lean on me. Now I get a lawyer and fight that lean.
Yeah, true, true. You might as well don't even put that felony on me.
Like I beat seven felonies. Like I can carry a pistol legally.
I don't have no felones. Oh, wow.
So you actually, that makes sense. Hell yeah.
Beat seven. Was it all at the same time? So, with this Rico, it was four.
Then I had another three when I caught my first pistol case. Yeah.
You know what I'm saying? Like, you ever went hunting? Like, hunting for like deers and shit? I never did. My dad was big into hunting.
I never done it. Well, shit, I was big into hunting with just the ops.
So I was hunting the ops.

You know what I'm saying? In the middle of hunting the ops. That's when I caught my first fucking pistol

case, man. They just caught you with a gun on you?

No, I'm so stupid. My rookie ass.

Like, this is like my...

I ain't gonna say rookie ass, but I was like young,

like 17. We seen

the car. Well, first we went in the party

looking for him. We was gonna fight him.

Then we get in the car. Boom.
I see him. He put his head out the window.
I'm like, oh, nigga, it's good. Come on.
We're going to follow him. Police get behind me.
I had just bought a car off the side of Highway 6 for like $2,000. But I had a paper tag, but it was a bullshit paper tag.
It was a cardboard and written on it with pen. So the police get behind us.
I'm like, oh, shit. What the actual fuck? So I'm jogging for a little bit.
You wrote your tag in on a pen on cardboard? I didn't know better. I didn't.
I bought it from the dude. He sold me a lemon and ended up fucking up.
So we get. So boom, I get you the code to say.
It's an old ass cop. I'm like, I got him.
I got my little brother in the car. They play football, varsity.
I don't want to put up their life. Because, you know, I knew I was going to be a rapper.
So I'm like, yeah, let me get something under my belt or something. But nah, for real.
So I'm nervous. I'm like, man, my mama going to kill me if I got my brother out of here.
He got scouts coming to the game. I'm like, fuck it, give me the gun.
Put it on my waist. I hopped out, put my hands up.
Like, hey man, chill. Just relax.
As soon as he came to me, I start Start running So I'm gone Oh no As I'm running I just feel I'm getting dizzy Shit like that Then I just Fall I had a Nike track jacket on He grabbed a string So while I was running That shit was choking Oh you were just choking Hell yeah Hot and motherfucking I fall Boom Had the pistol on my hip You know what I'm saying Falled the pistol on my hip They put know what I'm saying? Falled the pistol on my hip. They put me in the handcuffs, but he an old cop.
Then some young cops came. They're like, oh yeah, you the ramfuss who beat your motherfucking ass.
Yeah. They searched the car.
He said it didn't smell like weed. He was going to write me a ticket.
So I did all that shit for nothing. Then they didn't even find the pistol.
This was like 2009. I had on purple skinny jeans.
So the pistol go down to my skinny jeans. That's so funny.
I'm in the back of the car, and I wiggle the gun out of my skinny jeans, put it back on my shoe, kick the gun up under the seat like that. You feel me? Yeah.
They check me in, boom. So I'm just got – so my only charge was abating the risk.
Oh, okay. I'm like, it's cool.
Man, next morning I'm in the detox tank. The cop come out.

Hey, you're not going nowhere fast.

And I knew he found a gun.

Could they say it was yours though?

Hell yeah, he put it on me.

But I'm like, how?

You didn't bring me in with it?

Like, you know what I'm saying?

But this what happened.

So I got a class that he missed me in and something.

Hell nah, I got like three feelings.

The first one was definitely of a firearm from a sheriff. Then they tried to say it was a burglar habitation.
Then they tried to link me to other burglaries. So I'm in jail.
I call my mama. I tell her what's going on.
I call my brother. He's like, where you got that gun from? I'm like, man, come up here.
I ain't gonna tell you on the phone. I told him, like, yeah, nigga, this is a gun that Shemonte gave me.
Woo, woo, woo. My mama's a daycare teacher.
Couldn't find out. Shemonte ain't really breaking nobody's house.
He stole that gun from his auntie that's a sheriff. And I ain't know that.
And my mama know his auntie because my mama was watching his auntie's daughter at school. My mama told his auntie what happened.
She got all those charges dropped. Oh, that's kind of nice.
Hell yeah. Damn, he stole stole a fucking sheriff's gun.
His dumb ass. He was like, yeah, like, he was trying to be down with us and shit like that.
He was like, yeah, man, I got this gun. I've been hitting nicks.
I'm down. I'm like, yeah, whatever.
So he wasn't. He wasn't even my friend like that.
He was my brother and them homies. He's always the one to hang around me and shit like whatever.
So he did that shit the whole time. He stole from his auntie.
That's lame. Yeah, yeah.
You don't do that shit.'t take from your people, you feel me? Yeah. But thank God.
Fucking Christ. It was his auntie, you feel me? Yeah, that's probably why they're kicking such a cloud of dust over it.
Because it was a sheriff. How the fuck did he get this? Yeah, so like other than that, I don't really got too much criminal history.
I probably got like getting caught with a gun and some weed. Yeah.
I got like seven pistol cases. That's just because I had weed.
You feel me? But other than that, I'm not no super criminal. Just know that I always had some weed and a gun on me in Texas.
That's normal stuff. True.
That's the killer combo when you have the gun and weed. That's when they kind of really...
Yeah, that's what they make you like. But that's so small though.
But see, this is why weed not legal. Do you want your guns or do you want marijuana you know we a gun state texas live by their guns stand on their gun everybody you feel me so yeah what do you think about all the new guns with all like the like the pre-made the ones you can make yourself and 3d printing and all that stuff like the guy who killed the ceo said he like just had a 3d printing i mean because she them motherfuckers they, so you're going to smack shit up all day, you know what I'm saying? Unless they find the GSR on you, like the gunpowder or some shit like that, shit, that's dangerous, bro, because most guns got serial, so you can know, okay, I caught you with this gun, this gun was using this murder because it's a serial.
But if it's a ghost gun, it's out of the... Then if you got a ghost gun with a switch...
Yeah. You're in jail for like 20 years, aren't you? like so I think it's a ghost gun it's out of the then if you got a ghost gun with a switch yeah

you're in jail for like

hell yeah

20 years don't you

like so I think it's

mandatory minimum

10 years for

a switch

but I know that you can get

a binary switch too

that's legal

where it should be like

oh

but you gotta go to a special

gun class for that

you know what I'm saying

but

yeah switch is crazy

that's all

a lot of these young niggas

that's what they got

switches

they're terrifying

and them hoes fast

like

Thank you. Yeah, dude.
Like, you can't hit your target with it. Like, it's hard as hell to keep.
Like, you know what I'm saying? Keep it straight, yeah. Yeah, it seems like it's just never, it's just like spraying bullets in the general direction.
See, I'm older. Like, back when we was thugging, I ain't never had no switch.
We ain't even no shit like that. Like, you know what I'm saying? I know how to boom, boom.
Yeah. But at the same time, like, that switch shit is like, that's scary.
Yeah, dude. Well, that's fucked up.
Yeah, it was crazy how the guy apparently printed his own gun and just shot that dude. Printed his own gun.
Yeah, a lot of that shit going on. But see, in Texas, you don't got to do all that.
As long as you don't got no film, you go to the gun store. Yeah.
Like, it's not hard to get a gun for real, because if you get caught with a ghost gun, that's probably even worse. Yeah.
Untraceable. Yeah, I guess they're saying, yeah, because they're like, well, if you want an untraceable gun, what are you doing? Right.
Why do you want that? Yeah, that's crazy. Damn, dude.
Well, dude, what else is going on? Shit. Been chilling.
My clothing line, you know what I'm saying, persona. Relaunching that on the 5th, you know what I'm saying.
I got a lot of big collabs coming with that, you know what I'm saying? Shit. Oh, yeah.
I signed an artist. Did you really? Well, a couple artists.
Cartel Bow. I just got my joint venture on Warner Brothers Records.
Nice, man. So my label is at Warner Brothers.
That's cool. Oh, yeah, because you just did an album.
You just released it. But that was independent.
So look, as far as Max O'Krean, me, I'm 100% independent. Okay.

But my label, where I got my artists at, is with Warner Brothers.

That's cool.

How does that work?

It worked either.

So you get a joint venture.

You know what I'm saying?

You can get it exclusive or non-exclusive.

So you get a non-exclusive JB.

They're going to give you some money.

They're going to back your artists.

But let's say you had Warner Brothers.

If it's non-exclusive, you could go to Empire. You could go to Interscope.
You can go to Capitol with your same imprint because it's not exclusive. But if they give it to you exclusively, you know what I'm saying, now your admin is they admin.
You know what I'm saying? Now your staff is they staff. You can still build your own staff, and they're going to open up your budget because now you can't go nowhere else, and you invest in your business with them Yeah.
What do they try to do? Just get like a piece of your touring? It's like what's where? So they don't get nothing to me. Yeah.
So what my artist is, so I walk in with my percentage. They take their percentage and then now you actually get the bigger machine.
So instead of me having to wake up every morning because he's signing to me, okay, here, here's the money for your video. Here's the money for this and that.
He got a set budget. Plus, he get the advance from the label.
So, it's basically like, you signed to me, but my admin is Warner Brothers. Yeah, but where do they collect their advance on if you're not selling CDs? Like, nobody sells CDs anymore.
I mean, so, oh, so it's streaming. So, it's different platforms.
So, Spotify, Apple Music. Yeah.
You know what I'm saying? Shit like that. YouTube.
Then you got different syncs. Then you got publishing.
Yeah. You know what I'm saying? You got mechanical royalties.
It's all different kind of royalties. You know what I'm saying? So a publishing would be like, let's say if you start a TV show, you put it on Netflix.
Yeah. And then like you want to use my song at the beginning.
So that would be on the publishing side. So I get a publishing check.

You know what I'm saying?

I could be independent with my publishing

or I can go get

a deal with my publishing.

So my artist,

right now,

he's with Warner Brothers.

You know what I'm saying?

But we go get a publishing

check somewhere else too.

You know what I'm saying?

So never,

oh yeah, another thing,

never sign your pub

with the record label

that you at.

Always,

you don't want to keep

everything in one house

because when shit

come crashing down,

it come crashing down. You want to keep shit spreading around, have checks and balances on your shit.
Yeah. So you just, when did you start a label? Shit.
I started a label in 2019. I had one artist.
It was called Crank Click Global. I abandoned that one, and I started Fasana.
I had a label for like four years, but I didn't sign my first artist like legit, legit to it until last year, Cartel Bo. He going up everywhere, took him and rolling out with me.
You know what I'm saying? He got songs. He got some of Boss Man D-Lo coming.
He got some shit with Big Extra Plug. He poppin', check him out.
That's awesome. Everybody think that he Brian Pumper, though.
They be calling him calling he looks like Brian Pumper shit that's what they be saying I ain't know what the fuck Brian Pumper was and I see him like now y'all tripping that's so Brian Pumper might be the funniest dude did somebody crack some eggs on his head and he just sit there something yeah he like he was like just a big adult he was like a male porn star I know he lost his his fucking mind. Yeah, true.
Yeah, he kind of lost it. But he is funny.
He makes really... His videos are funny as shit.
Like comedy videos? Yeah, I don't know if he's trying to be funny or what, but they're genuinely funny. He got in trouble because he was, from what I heard, he's doing professional porn.
And then when you're doing that, you can't fuck around on your own, apparently. Because you need to be tested, all that stuff.

And what they say he did, I don't know if it's true or not, but they're saying that he was just

hawking people down on the

subway. He would just hawk ladies

down on the subway and be like, I'll give you $500

right now. We'll film a porn

tape. And he was getting people to do it, but he wasn't

testing or anything. And then he'd go back to a

legit studio. And they're like, bro,

you can't be doing that here. That's what they say.
Dabbling and dabbling. Don't know what or anything.
And then he'd go back to like a legit studio. And they're like, bro, you can't be doing that here.

So that's what they say.

His, uh.

Dibbling and dabbling.

Don't know what's happening.

Exactly.

Yeah, that shit crazy, man.

Well, dude, thanks, man.

I think we're good, bro.

Thanks for coming and doing this.

You already know, man.

Anytime.

Appreciate it, man.

You crushed it.

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