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This is an American History podcast where each week I read a story from American History.

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So here's the deal.

Bo Grites, part three.

Bo

is now dipping his toes into politics,

and he's running for president under the populist party with a guy who believes in lizards and whatnot.

That's beyond believing in lizards.

And then lizard people.

Yeah.

He went to meet one.

But now

Ruby Rage happens.

So

Randy Weaver

was convicted, was sorry, convinced.

I should say

this is August 1992.

I should have yelled the date.

August 1992.

People are bad today.

It's hard when you do three-party.

You forget to.

Anyway.

So Randy Weaver was convinced to sell two sought-off shotguns to an undercover ATF agent,

Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms Bureau, didn't immediately arrest him.

Instead, tried to pressure him into becoming an informant against white supremacist groups like the Aryan Nation.

For those wondering, there used to be a time when those groups were frowned upon

and not militarized.

Randy, who was a bit of a white supremacist himself

and someone

who didn't want to be killed by Aryan Nation guys

refused to be an arc.

So they indict him.

And they then sent him the wrong court date.

And when he missed the court date that he had not been told about, they acted as though he was purposely refusing to comply with the justice system.

Okay.

So on August 21st, 1992, six U.S.

Marshals entered the property to scout it before invading the cabin to arrest Weaver.

Okay.

On the scouting trip, one of them decided to shoot and kill the Weaver family dog.

Which is always a fun move for law enforcement.

Just a few thousand times a year.

This act caused a firefight between the Marshals,

family friend Kevin Harris, and 14-year-old Sammy Weaver.

Sammy tried to run away, but the

Marshals shot the young teen in the back and killed him.

Kevin Harris shot and killed the marshal who murdered the family dog.

And then he was shot.

The FBI hostage rescue team is called in the next day, and one of their snipers shot Randy's unarmed wife, Vicki, in the head, killing her instantly.

She died with the baby in her arms right in front of her children.

Crikey.

So this leads to a nine-day stand-up between Randy and his young daughters against the FBI.

After the FBI failed to de-escalate the situation over several days, a local sheriff decided they needed a civilian who could talk to these people the way they talk.

No.

Who might be able to end this all peacefully?

No.

Gareth, they needed someone respected by fringe white supremacists, but

one who didn't completely despise the entire government apparatus.

Gareth, they needed Bogrites.

Oh, my God.

So

the sheriff invites him up.

I cannot.

This fucking dude.

Bo and another top figure in the Christian Patriot movement arrive to cheers.

So there's right-wing protesters there at this point.

It's the same as what was the first episode we did?

BLM, not

Black Lifestyle Matter, the other BLM.

Uh,

fuck first episode today of the dollop.

Oh, oh, uh, fucking uh,

God, what's his name?

Uh, people are freaking out.

Clemen Bundy, yeah, so the Bundy Range.

It's the same thing.

Once they hear there's a standoff, people all these right-wingers come from all over.

They're like, This is it, this is the battle.

We've been waiting for them.

So that's what's happening.

There's all theseone takes out a cod shell, blows a horn.

Come on.

So they've been camped out at the site for days.

When Bo and this other Christian patriot guy arrive, they cheer, right?

They're heroes there.

At first, the FBI only let Bo record a message to Weber,

but Bo, Bo knew that wouldn't work.

A message isn't going to do shit.

This is a dude who walked into like a drug lord's foyer.

Yeah.

Don't say foyer.

Yeah.

And he's like, I know I have to speak to him live and in person.

Like, it's the only way this will work.

I'm so much better live.

So he keeps offering to negotiate, and the FBI is like, no, that's fucking dumb.

So

finally, Bo and the Christian Patriot leader

perform ceremonial citizens' arrests on the FBI leadership.

By the way,

I've always loved citizens' arrests.

I didn't know you could do it to the FBI.

So what is the rule there?

Can I just do, like, can we just citizens arrest Aid?

That's not a thing.

I think we could citizens arrest Aiden.

Well, I think...

I'm placing you under arrest.

I think you could absolutely arrest a guy who's not identifying himself, wearing a mask, trying to throw you in a van.

Yeah, absolutely.

I mean, I can't believe no one's been shot.

Well,

did you see that guy's gun got jammed?

Oh, really?

Yeah, the Camarillo shit.

Yeah, he is.

He like turned.

They said he fired shots.

He didn't, but he's like, he was about to.

Oh, wow.

Okay.

So it's coming.

Yeah, it's coming.

So

I don't know what that looks like or what exactly happens.

So they asked him.

I mean, what is the FBI's like?

They got us.

Wow, shit.

They got us.

So they asked him what he could do that their trained and experienced experts could not do.

Quote, well, I'm here talking to you and you're not talking to Randy Weaver, are you?

God, he's good.

He's so good at this.

So they're just like, whatever.

Like,

there's nothing.

It's been going on nine days.

Like, what might it might as well?

Sure.

Well, the worst case scenario, Bo dies.

Yeah, worst case it happens, Bo guides.

Honestly, there's a real upside to them just shooting Bo in the head at this point.

So on Friday, August 28th, 1992, an armed personnel carrier drove Bo about 30 yards away from the Weaver cabin where Bo...

He sat in there and he started yelling for Randy,

but he doesn't hear anything in return.

So he jumps out of this little mini tank thing and just walks up to the front door.

Randy finally responded, and Bo spent about an hour talking to Randy Weaver,

and Bo soon built enough trust up to be let into the cabin.

So he's right.

No FBI guy was ever going to get to do that.

Right.

Just shocking.

So Bo spoke with Randy face to face.

He's calm.

He's using reason.

He's appealing to family and using religious language.

There are blizzard people

who would love to put you in contact with them.

They're going to help you get out of this situation.

He was able to empathize with Weaver's distrust of the government and get through to him.

And when Bo returned to the FBI after that first day,

He could really only think of one thing to say, quote, boys,

say, quote, boy, you guys really screwed that one up.

Which they yeah, which obviously.

It's a colossal.

Yeah.

Like, why are you shooting the kid?

Why are you shooting the wife?

Like, what are you doing?

Yeah.

The dog.

Like, the whole thing is just fucking stupid.

So then Bo walked down.

Also, you could have just waited till he left the house and arrested him.

The whole, yeah.

No, they, I mean, that is the whole thing is like the impulse to just, they have all the weapons.

They have all the toys.

They are dying to use this shit.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Bo then walked down the ridge to the assembled reporters, friends, neighbors, and skinheads from across the country.

Everyone here is awesome.

Remember, he's in the middle of a presidential campaign.

Yeah.

By the way, this is quite a photo op.

And he threw an impromptu press conference.

Quote, Vicki Weaver is dead.

This is the first time anybody hears that.

Oh, wow.

He tells the crowd, protesters start to scream.

Things look like they were turning violent.

And then Bo calmed the crowd, telling them he could peacefully get the remaining people out of the cab.

So this is why you don't allow a guy who's outside of the system to do the

negotiation joke.

Well, he just goes and tells everybody what he.

Yeah.

And I guess it's okay because it's the truth, but also like it's

a violent situation.

Well, I mean, but it's

a warranted violent situation.

But again, I mean, there's nobody to root for right now.

No.

Yeah.

But again, I definitely think you'd just be like, we're figuring things out.

We'll let you know soon what's going on exactly.

He's like, Vicki Weaver's dead.

So is the dog and a child.

So he calms the crowd.

He says he can end this peacefully.

And the next morning, the FBI negotiators slumped to the side as Bo straddled into the, just strode right into the catalogue.

They were just like, ah, fuck.

The day prior, because they know they're going to look like shit in this or what, but they got to try to end it peacefully.

Yeah.

Whatever.

So the day prior, bow learned that family friend kevin harris had been shot in the shoulder uh

and it looked bad so bow told randy that he had to give kevin up that he needed to go to a hospital or if he didn't bow would testify against randy because kevin debt kevin's death would be his fault

so it starts to work until randy remembered that his girls didn't want kevin to go

And Bo was like to Randy, he's like,

you wear the pants in the family.

You make the call.

You don't listen to women, dude.

And they both know what the right call is.

So

Randy nods.

He's like, Kevin can go.

Okay.

So when Bo finally saw Kevin, he thought he was so jaundiced from a lack of blood that he had maybe 12 hours to live.

Wow.

Almost immediately, Kevin was in a helicopter and on his way to the hospital.

Okay.

So Bo compared the negotiations to the games of fiddlesticks he played with his grandpa.

100%.

You have to pick up one sig at a time without disturbing the others.

He knew his next poll had to be Vicki, the dead wife and mother of the Weaver family.

She would be his key.

Vicki had been lying in the kitchen for the past 11 days.

You got to let the meat really.

Dave.

The family was unable to process or cope with the fact that she, who obstinately won the hostages, was murdered by the men who claimed they were trying to save her.

Fair?

Yes, completely.

Bo told Randy to think about his kids, how it was hell for them to see their mom laying dead on the floor of the kitchen.

He said he'd bring in a body bag and remove her with honors so the kids didn't have to look at her anymore.

So Randy Weaver relented.

From the PBS article, American Experience, Ruby Ridge, quote, In the war, Greitz had learned that fear was a thing you could smell, taste even.

And when he walked to the cabin the girls appeared to shrink he thought that if they could have shrunk through the wall they would have they didn't trust him he thought they probably expected him to shoot them well yeah their mom got killed yeah and their dad's a fucking crazy asshole yep so the girls are wailing not a cry Greites would have would make sure to say later, but wailing.

And as he crossed to go down the stairs, they said, please don't let our mama touch the ground.

And he said he wouldn't.

And he didn't.

And he carried her all the way down.

Jesus.

I don't know what that means.

Why wouldn't wait?

He carried her just like.

He carried the body.

Oh, my God.

But why would you not want her to touch the ground?

Because you don't want to see her like dragged.

I don't think that's what they're talking about.

I think.

They're not saying don't drag her.

I'm saying they just don't want her to touch the ground.

I mean, they're probably like, don't drop her.

I guess, yeah.

I mean, you know, they're probably also not operating from a normal headspace.

No, no, they've probably got some issues at this point.

Juggle her the whole walk.

Now you're getting a little lofty, kids.

The makeshift FBI headquarters, Bo said, was basically a frat house.

There was junk everywhere, chipbags, tango containers, glass, plastic bottles.

Bo thought it looked like a huge trash heap, and he felt almost ashamed as he laid Vicki's body down.

Oh, God.

As soon as she touched the floor, the FBI agents clad in black helmets, uniforms, swarmed like a wild stampede.

They rushed forward, cameras in hand, snapping photo after photo of Vicki Weaver, all eyes on her.

Bo figured that Randy and the girls could have walked straight out of the cabin and off the mountain without anyone noticing at that point.

They were also focused on Vicki.

That's when the FBI commander told Bo, quote, if you don't get them out by noon tomorrow, we're taking them out.

Jesus Christ.

So now they're, it's like they're mad that she got killed by them when they clearly just shot her in the head.

They must, maybe they thought she was Randy and they mistook her and shot her instead.

But either way, they just seem mad that

they did it.

Or that to some extent that he's doing the job so much better than them, but they're like, it's taking forever.

Yeah, they're mad about that.

Come on, dude.

And this standoff that we caused quicker.

That night, Bo knew one of two things would happen the next day: death or victory.

He tried to sleep and finally fell asleep around 12 a.m.

But a few hours later, something happened.

He had a vision.

Quote: I wasn't awake, but it wasn't a dream.

In the vision, Bo saw himself in the cabin, asking Randy to come out, but Randy wouldn't budge.

Then at exactly noon, Randy opened the door with his girls in tow, and he told his daughters, quote, get your things together.

We're going to follow Colonel Bo down the hill.

Well, that's intense, Gareth.

Sure.

By the way, that's a dream.

Yeah, that's

to jump in quick.

That's what we call a dream.

Yeah, that is it.

I wasn't awake.

I wasn't asleep, but I was seeing stuff.

You were asleep.

No, it was like

I'd been in bed for a while.

Yeah.

And my eyes were closed.

Yeah.

But I saw the craziest.

Yeah, it's a dream.

It's called the dream.

My eyes weren't open.

Right.

That's what I mean.

It's why it's a dream because you were sleeping.

I had a dream.

What?

I mean, I had a vision.

Oh, interesting.

I had a vision.

You had a vision about a dream?

No.

Do you have a dream vision?

I had a, I saw something.

A dream.

my eyes were closed right it's a dream i became a dolphin

can you believe that yes and i think that's gonna happen i don't think it is

man

i'll tell you what i used to think night vision was a goggle yeah not anymore what do you think now it's something that i only experience when i'm i would not asleep but i'm not awake i would love to figure out a way to

stop you from dreaming, if that makes sense.

I'm not dreaming.

Yeah.

I'm i'm seeing stuff in the night yeah that's called a dream i'm having night stuff okay

man you wouldn't get it i wouldn't one time no no no no

one time i saw this vision in the night that i said sex with this sex worker

and when i woke up

i'd made actual goo

is that crazy i'm just gonna go on from vision

from vision to sticky i'm gonna go on with what i'm doing it's called the white dream i'm gonna go on with what i'm doing but it wasn't a a dream.

Okay.

I call it a wet vision.

Okay.

It was a vision to vision.

Yeah, yeah.

You know what I mean?

No.

Let's get that fist buffer.

No, we're not going to get it.

Give it such.

Not fist buffing.

Come on.

Just as Bo was about to leave his hotel, he got a call, and he picked it up thinking it was going to be the FBI telling him not to show up, that they razzed the house with their tanks and burnt the evidence.

Instead, it was Salt Lake City AM radio station K-Talk.

Asking Bo, what's going on?

What's going to happen today?

Hey, Bo.

How are you today?

This is K-Talk calling you real quick.

We got your number.

We just wanted to see how you're feeling today about the standoff.

What are you thinking about this afternoon?

And what is your tactic?

What are you going to do next?

Hey,

Geezer over here, kind of our color guy.

He's wondering what it was like to carry that woman's dead body.

Is that funny or fun?

Or what was that like?

Honk, honk.

All right.

That's right.

We're giving away some concert tickets this week, and they'll be playing at the Pepsi Rock stage.

Pepsi Rock stage.

All the big names and rhyme.

Even though we're aiming, we're not playing that stuff.

Um, so, Bo, are you there?

Yeah.

So, what is it like when you walk into a house like that?

Did you feel British when you walked into the kitchen and said, This bloody kitchen?

Did you feel like a Brit when you said that?

Because there was a lot of blood over there, huh?

It was horrible.

Yeah, I bet it was.

Uh, listen, we're actually uh, we're wondering if you could stick around for a prank phone call real quick.

We're doing the Thursday pranks.

Uh, we really want to, what we're thinking is we're going to call Randy, and uh, we're going to have you prank him, but we want you to be the wife and say that you're still alive.

God, we're having a good time.

It's time for traffic.

Time for traffic on the nines.

We do it at every nine.

Right now on the nine freeway, we're having a lot of issues.

It seems to be that there's a smoke signal, but it seems to be all right.

They're moving it down to one lane of traffic.

You get through that, it'll be clear as sailing.

That's rush hour here in whatever town.

We're at Salt Lake.

So Bo tells them that exactly 12 p.m., everything would be over.

Randy and his daughter would safely emerge from the cabin, and they'd all walk down the hill.

And K-Talk asked Bo how he knew that to be a fact.

And Bo told him that he had seen it in the vision.

And the AMDJ responded, quote, well, let's check traffic.

You thought it was a joke.

Got to love it.

The worst people in the world all gliding together.

I know.

Honestly, this is just a who's who of shitbags, this whole run.

When Bo got to the FBI headquarters, the commander reminded him, quote, you know what happens today at noon.

So Bo's like, this is going to be over today, no matter what.

So once he got to the cabin, Randy told them that he and the girls had prayed all night and voted they would not be coming out.

And the feds were going to have to kill him first, just like they did his son Sammy and his wife, Vicki.

Quote, no disrespect, but you might as well go home because we already made our decision.

And Bo said, quote, Weaver, damn you, don't don't you tell me that you're not going to continue when I have carried your bride out of this cabin, when we've got out Kevin Harris, who is still alive, don't you tell me you're going to quit now?

Randy's daughters thought Bo was being pushy, but the pushing is.

Yeah.

But that's all he had left at this point.

He had to get it done fast.

He had tried to tiptoe around.

So Bo keeps telling Randy that he had to leave.

And he had to do it by noon.

They needed to trust him.

So finally, he wears Randy down.

and he told his daughters, quote, I believe this is what we need to do.

And Randy's word was law.

And this is exactly what Bo had seen in his vision.

When did you have the vision?

Hand to God.

It was exactly like that vision.

When was the vision?

Last night.

What time?

I think 30, 2:30 a.m., something like that.

You were sleeping.

No, it was dark, but I saw it.

Eyes closed or open?

Yeah, crazy.

Closed, yeah.

Crazed.

Crazy.

No, dream.

Vision.

Vision.

Dream.

Vision.

Dream.

I was night vision.

Dream.

no, dream, no, dream, we can do this all.

I mean, we should probably not do it afternoon, after 12 p.m.

So I saw it clearly.

This is what I saw.

It was a dream.

I'm not leaving until you admit it was a dream.

Well,

the girls and I had another talk, and we're not leaving until you admit it was an actual dream.

Well, then you're going to die.

And the vision was wrong.

You'd rather us die than admit it was a dream?

Yeah.

Boy,

I love you.

Welcome to my cabin.

You're so good.

So Randy told the girls to get their things, and they were going to follow Colonel Bo down the hill.

And Bo took Randy's hand in a massive grip as they walked down the hill and didn't let go until they were all the way at the bottom where a

helicopter was waiting to take Randy, who had himself been shot to the hospital.

The girls' grandparents took them, and bow thought it all worked out like a mathematical equation that Albert Einstein would have been proud of him.

I mean, he's that's like me like citing history.

He has no idea what he's talking about.

He's like, this equation was so difficult to solve, Albie Einstein would have loved it.

This is Einstein shit.

This is Einstein stuff here.

Beau's success embarrassed the FBI and showed how communication and trust, not brute force violence, could have prevented the tragedy from happening in the first place.

And as he walked toward the crowd, the conquering hero, with the lens of every national network camera on him, hundreds of reporters present, middle of a presidential race, he is a fucking

walking hero at this point.

He sees a group of skinheads and he gives them a Nazi salute.

Oh my God!

Jesus Christ.

Oh no, Elon.

Oh no.

Like, it's that, it's not.

I mean, it's not to say that it's not already strange.

I mean, look, he's definitely.

What a, what a fuck.

That decision making is so bad.

He should be president.

Oh, God damn.

Let me see if I can find the photo.

Bo, uh, bright.

Did I tell you at a show when I

brought a guy up on stage and he Nazi saluted like as a joke?

Oh, no.

Like he thought it was funny.

No, it's not.

Oh, my God.

He's definitely Nazi saluting.

Because he's doing it right at skinheads.

So that's what he's doing.

Yeah, that's very clear.

Despite clear photographic evidence of him doing a Nazi salute, Bo disputed the charge.

Quote, I wanted to give a Nazi, I wanted to give a Nazi.

If I wanted to give a Nazi salute, I certainly would have known how to give it, and I would have given it in a fashion that any good Nazi would have been proud of.

That is, dude, that's exactly like Trump with that epstein drawing

where he said

and then that quote trump goes i never wrote that picture i never wrote something like that oh man couldn't you just see him sketching that around the oh completely

he oh he's yeah we'll talk about on the challop patreon.com slash

but the saga and his new status as a hero soon hit a roadblock.

Right-wingers who so love Bo, the anti-government, you know, French people who saw him as one of them, started turning on Bo because he had collaborated with the government.

I mean, he did, he did, in their eyes, he worked with the FBI.

The story, he didn't work with the FBI, he actually saved Weaver.

Yeah, but like circumvented the FBI, but they wanted Weaver to go down guns ablaze.

Right.

They wanted that whole family dead.

Right.

Um,

so they start to turn on Bo

because of this.

Wait, I'll tell you, what a weird, fickle group.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's hard to believe that they don't have

any honor.

I know, but it's also like

it's like, that's just crazy.

In an article called The Ruby Creek

Sabotage.

Wow.

You're happy right now, are you?

What's the paper?

Sign me up.

The writer called Bo a Freemason

and a political pied piper who was out to destroy the racial white movement.

Bo, quote, the Aryan people were mad.

They wanted Randall Weaver dead.

They would have had their martyr.

The media was mad.

They wanted the weavers up there in the little clapboard cabin as

nothing but charred bones.

That would have made a wonderful story.

This must have been after Waco.

Yeah, it would be.

Because that's why he keeps talking about burned.

Yeah.

The truth is a number of Weaver's neighbors were mad because they hated Weaver for whatever reason.

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So he goes back to his presidential campaign for September and October.

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If you support me, whether I win this election or not, I won't go away.

I'll be at the forefront of the Patriot movement.

I will always be here for you.

So Trumpy.

So, yeah, he is.

So come November 4th, the son of a bitch evaporated out of the Patriot movement.

What Bo Greitz does now is hawk his book and survival literature.

Instead of getting in the face of Congress, he tells people how to go and hide and store food.

Finally useful.

But I still think he I still think you're right.

He would have sold more books by going out Larry King.

But, okay.

So the chairwoman also believed that campaign cash contributions were misused.

His national chairman told her they didn't raise the $200,000 needed to qualify for federal matching funds.

But she knew that Bo had collected 300,000 in his Nevada office alone.

How the fuck is he not going to make 200,000 after Ruby raised?

It's bullshit.

It's totally bullshit.

Like, that woman said the N-word and got a million.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So he couldn't make the ballot in California, pretty much almost every state.

He couldn't make the ballot, but he still managed to get 100,000, 106,000 votes about 0.14 of the popular vote uh he did much better in the Mormon parts of the country uh Utah and Idaho he got four percent two percent Idaho was

fucking balloons so two months after the election bose said quote I'd rather have my mouth tied around the exotic exhaust pipe of a bus and be drugged all the way to Los Angeles than get into any political arena I hate politics I hate politicians They belong on the bottom of the floor, of the ocean with the whale manure.

Geth, tell me about the whale manure.

You're an animal guy.

Big piles of whale manure that they highly doubt that it sinks.

Do they all go to the do they all poo at the same place and it drips down?

I don't think that it's whale manure pile.

I do not think that it sinks.

So there's a big whale manure pile.

I do not think that it sinks.

Do they do the

submarines, the deep submarines, the bathysphere, I think is what they're called, but the deep submarines.

Did they go down there and find the whale manure?

There is a new theory that the Titan submersible was knocked down by a giant whale ship.

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Beau poured his energy into his day-long spike seminars.

They finally got a show on Spike.

Specifically prepared individuals for key events.

Oh, God.

You know what?

I loathe acronyms now.

Gary Busey has ruined acronyms and they were already done, but now it's over.

Stop.

Stop.

He taught people that there are four phases that Americans who would like to continue to live as free individuals will face.

Phase one, awareness.

That's what he raised by running for president.

Awareness.

Phase two, preparation.

Learning to live self-reliant in spite of the government, how he can survive riots, the storms, and and earthquakes and volcanoes.

Phase three, relocation, moving to a safer place away from the riots and the storms and the earthquakes and the volcanoes where people can't, quote, come in here and tread on us.

Right.

And phase four, defense, a showdown with the godless New World Order.

Just hang in phase three.

Yeah.

Phase three.

We don't need to do a showdown.

Get yourself a bunch of jams and jerkies and then just fucking move.

That's right.

So Bo had done phases one and two so it's time for phase three

and he went to fema and got a list of all the places

the phase three which is he went to relocation fema what is that that was a thing we used to have federal emergency management administration which would help people in natural disasters but now

uh it doesn't really exist

well at least the states can afford it

And he got a list of places where natural disasters might hit.

This is hilarious.

He took out a map and and began crossing out parts that had riots or potential for riots, firestorms, hurricanes, tornadoes, earthquakes, and of course, volcanoes.

The volcanoes one is hilarious to me.

The only place left was a teeny sliver of map.

Rhode Island.

In northern Idaho.

He's going back.

Which, if you know anything about the Yellowstone caldera, that's a terrible place to be.

Bo circled it and a name called to him immediately.

No, God.

Almost heaven.

Jesus Christ.

Bo promised this wasn't a militia or Waco.

God's probably close to suing him at this point for infringement.

So he promised it's not a militia or Waco situation.

That's like, that's like on date one being like, I'm not a day rapist.

You have nothing to worry about when it comes to that.

And the only rule for living there was that anyone who moved in had to agree to a constitutional covenant, which is basically a neighborhood watch group, but for your and your neighbor's constitutional rights.

Okay.

So a neighborhood watch, he invented.

Sounds stupid.

It was soon full of about 60 or so families.

You could get 60 people to do anything.

Well, now this is right when the Y2K

fear is hitting.

So a lot of those people are trying to survive the coming Y2K

apocalypse.

Yeah.

Yeah.

My dad was a part of it.

This is called White 2K.

You said your dad was a big into it?

Oh, yeah.

He did a whole thing.

For a long time, he was eating all the cancer Dindy Moore stew that he had.

Nothing like that Canadian missed Dinty Moore bowel movement.

I went into his apartment and in the spare bedroom, he had now had two giant water tanks.

you were like,

what's going on?

He originally thought he convinced a guy who had a cabin up in the woods that they would go there.

And then the guy was like, no, I didn't know you were serious.

But I brought two water tanks.

And then right after, the day after I call him up, I go, so

how'd your apocalypse come?

It's going to be a slow degradation.

I was like, okay.

You are the worst person to have call after the Y2K let down.

Had a go, huh?

Good thing you ate all that Dinty Moore.

You can have a lot of Dinty Moore for weeks, aren't you?

There you go.

Boy, I hope you like Dinty Moore.

By the way, if you're going to hit the apocalypse, Dinty Moore.

It was Dinty Moore as they're like, oh, yeah, that's the one.

I mean, I just get spaghetti.

I mean, if we're just talking about stuff near it, spaghettios.

He was like, Dinty Moore.

I like that beef.

So almost having hit some snags pretty quick.

First, the co-founder was caught mismanaging a million dollars in land sales funds.

Then Bo was approached by Linda Wiggin, a woman in the community, and she told him that her ex-husband had taken their kids and was molesting them for Satan, which is exactly what happened.

That's

she's goddamn it.

You're pulling all my strings.

Come on now.

You figure that out in the house.

It's not what we're doing over here.

So Bo didn't like that.

He was very upset about that.

So, he and his son, Jim, decided they were going to put a stop to it.

We need to go get him out.

It's a POW.

So, they snuck onto the grounds of the kids' school

where they were immediately flagged as threats and arrested because they were two adult men creeping around a school.

No, no, no, no, ma'am.

I understand.

You don't know who I am.

I'm a war hero, and I'm from almost heaven, and we're here to rescue those girls.

As I'm about to say, what I'm about to say is because the father is touching the girls because, in the name of Satan.

He's a lizard.

I'll handle this.

Don't say that right now.

I'll handle this.

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lizard.

No, we're not.

We're not.

No one, again,

Jimmy is going a little off.

Joe!

Okay, all right.

Jesus Christ, stop that.

Dad, you.

No, put your hand down.

Sorry.

No, we, um, what we were,

boy, I'll tell you what.

If I were you, I would look like your face does right now.

But what we're trying to say is we're not anti-Jew and we don't.

I was.

You told me that the lizard people.

Not now.

While we acknowledge the lizard people, we're not representing them in any way.

The last one I met was nine and a half feet.

If you'll believe that, she was bigger than the commander.

The girls are being molested by their devil, dad, and I need to get them out.

So, again, I'm from almost heaven.

I think we hate him.

Do you have a business card with you?

You hand to hand the lady.

She looks crazy.

She probably did have business cards.

How are you doing?

I'm from Almost Heaven.

Gareth, it turns out the father had full custody because the mother was batshit crazy.

They were charged with attempted kidnapping.

They got to go back to the school.

I just want to say I am real sorry.

Turns out the dad not molesting them on behalf of the devil.

People believe this.

Mom had lost her marbles.

So the girls are good to go home with dad.

Keep them away from mom is

the new thing.

Jim was charged with having a concealed knife, and they were put in jail, and Bo had to take out a $100,000 loan to make bail.

Wow.

Quote, getting involved with the Linda Wiggin case was the biggest mistake of my life.

But you know what?

There's been so many bigger mistakes.

Yeah, he's just finally paying the tab for 800 Dynondash.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But I wanted to protect those boys.

In a massive stroke of luck, they were acquitted of all the charges.

Bo may have survived his brush with the law, but his marriage to Claudia, the woman he met doing karate when she was 16 years old, didn't.

She had grown tired of Bo's antics.

Name one thing he's done that's weirder enough.

Imagine being 16 and wasting your life with this fucking

God, what did I know?

She was especially against his plan to go into the North Carolina forest to find the Atlanta Olympic bomber,

who, by the way, was never in the forest.

And also wasn't the bomber.

And they also thought he was another guy.

Why are you going into the forest when they think that they've got the guy?

Was it like at the fairgrounds?

Yeah.

They thought he was a security guard.

No, he's living with the Keebler elves.

We'll get him.

We'll get him.

But Bo is adamant.

He made a nest like a bird.

He's sitting up there like a redbreast.

Bo is adamant.

He and his volunteer band of 86 men.

So he's got a posse of 86.

Jesus Christ.

Could search every limestone cave and find him.

They did not.

And three weeks later, Claudia divorced him.

Because of the caves?

Claudia.

I could have sworn he was in there.

I still think he might be.

We didn't go super deep into a couple of them.

So because he got divorced, the Mormon church excommunicated him.

This motherfucker just, he keeps putting his hand in the wrong.

We are gone.

We are on the tailspin of Bo, right?

Yeah.

so uh

bow does not take it well that they are uh by the way oh this suddenly sounds better because we had to redo this part uh yeah

weeks later

weeks later so if we sound older too

so bow doesn't take the divorce well right um

shortly after bow put on his dress uniform which is just a dress with the 60 plus medals yep which i showed you the other day yeah yeah um that biggest cub scout in the army and they're they're all in one pocket.

Right.

They're like.

Well, he's saving.

Yeah, yeah.

He's saving room for the other

side.

The other side.

And he drove down the highway and he got out of his car and he sat down.

He probably fell out.

He was probably weighted down so much by the metals on the left side, he fell out of the way.

Every time he opened his car door, he would fall.

Whoa!

He also couldn't walk straight.

Yeah, he was, yeah, he did.

He had that, yeah.

Like Trump going down that red carpet.

And then he sat down and he shot himself in the chest.

Ah, let's get the now.

He definitely did the side without the medals.

Yes.

Because that side.

That side would be bulletproof.

No, you're right.

It's very message heavy.

Chest shot is just.

Yeah.

Right.

Yo, that's the message.

But that's also...

That's a message one.

Like, if you want to, you go ahead, right?

That's, but to shoot yourself in the chest is to like, I hope someone finds me.

Maybe, but it's also a way to say, like,

I wanted pain.

Yeah.

Like, oh, yeah, yeah, hurting.

I'm hurting.

Yeah, I don't know.

Or unless you're in the NFL and you're saying, study my brain.

I was taken advantage of.

And I want proof that the horrible nightmare trauma that I've been living through is caused by being lied to by doctors.

But he lived.

Okay.

And Bo started getting into it afterwards, after he got back to health.

He started getting into it with a faction of hardcore racist separatists in almost heaven who he called noodles,

which

I think is a great thing to call people.

Well, it's tough for a guy like you because you're a big pasta guy.

We were just talking about this.

Oh, you, that's, that's a cute name.

They call me noodles, Anthony.

I can't stay mad at them.

They're noodles.

It's like if the KKK was called Capri's son, I'd be like, wow.

He liked to call anybody who was more out there than him a noodle.

Right.

That was his.

So he once called the group of campaign supporters a whole pot of noodles.

Wait, of his campaign supporters?

Yes.

Well, of course.

So he's like, he's kind of like, where to get with noodles?

No, he's knowing about it.

It's a term of

my followers are even more out there than I am.

You budget noodles.

Not in a good way.

But it's hard for me to say it in a serious way.

You fucking noodle.

See what happened just now?

You did not prove any point in your direction or favor.

Hey, noodle.

Stop it.

No.

I'm like, what?

It's like a clown's mad at me.

Yeah, like a fucking pot of noodles.

You can't do it.

You're trying really hard.

It's like, it would be the worst audition.

Walks in.

He's furious.

He knows the jig is up.

He only has one thing to say to his friend Joe.

You fucking noodle.

God, we gotta change a word.

It's just, it's comical.

It's terrible.

All right, listen, noodles.

Tonight we strike.

You can't do it.

Get your pesto on, boys.

We're going full noodle.

All right, noodles.

Like, it really just sounds like what a dog walker calls his dogs.

It's genuinely.

Come here, you noodles.

It's a clown name.

Okay.

So after the divorce, suicide attempt.

uh the kidnapping snafu where we went to try to kidnap the kids at school um not being allowed boy Boy, you're really looking back.

When you add it up,

not being allowed to be a Mormon.

And now, because he got kicked out of the...

Is this the tombstone?

He got booted from being a Mormon for the divorce.

By the way, Mormons, complete noodles.

Total noodles.

He had had enough.

He moved out of almost heaven and he moved back to Nevada.

Almost hell.

Almost heaven would only survive another five years or so, and then it went under.

If you can imagine, it it was such a great idea.

You mean it went up?

Yes.

Well, there are a bunch of noodles.

Ascended.

Lord, a bunch of noodles have just entered the clouds.

Oh, good Lord.

I have a good me.

So once he's in Nevada, he creates the Fellowship of Eternal Warriors.

Such a...

That sounds like an organization your father would have absolutely joined.

I mean, 100%.

Absolutely.

If there was drinking.

I was was going to say, as long as there was like, Canadian mist, was that what it was?

What do we got?

A bar car?

What are we doing?

A bar car.

And he wrote bulletins like this: quote: Look to those who are openly anti-Christ, who in the world is promoting abortion, pornography, pedophilia, godless laws, adultery, new age international banking, entertainment, industry, and world publishing.

The banking one might be the only one that that makes sense.

The banking one's the only one where I'm like, that actually does kind of fester poorly.

God, they just, you know, it's, it's always just a litany of personal choice that affects nobody

but them.

Yeah.

Like it's like, if I want to do X, in my world and my life, that's like such a fucking huge issue.

Yeah, it wouldn't you rather just be like, Look, you're gonna go to hell?

Like, I, that's what I would do.

I, I was in, um,

uh, wherever I was in, like, Maryland somewhere doing stand-up, and I was, there was a,

someone on the show who was uh extremely religious and had extreme religious views and would say things that were very displeasing to anyone who wants an open, fair society.

But the thinking was, well, what am I going to do?

They're going to go to hell.

And I'm like, well, that good.

Just go around and think that instead of trying to change everything.

Right.

They're going to go to hell.

They're going to go to some magic place on the ground or whatever.

Why are you trying to stop it all?

Yes.

It's like, well, okay, then you'll be there without them.

What if fuck you care?

Yeah.

Wow.

That got weird.

I shouldn't have.

It just got so anti-woman.

So Barry

Bo meets and marries another woman.

This one's more age-appropriate.

Give her the old noodle.

She helped him join the Church of Israel,

which is a decision that's aged phenomenally.

It is a splinter group off the Mormon church, which officially incorporates

identity Christianity.

Mormon spin-off is

not great.

Not good.

It's basically the same thing Bo believed in before, except they added being anti-vax and sovereign citizens to the whole thing.

Sovereign citizens are the best.

That's the best one.

Yeah,

because they're

not my country.

Yeah.

Uh, you can't text me.

Oh, you can't, no.

Oh, can you arrest me?

No, I'm not, I'm, I'm free.

I don't, I'm like a fairy here.

I don't believe in rules.

While I'm on American soil, I don't participate.

In 2003, Bo went to Florida to once again stop a standoff, but this one between a feeding tube and Terry Shivo.

This was the beginning.

Yeah, I think we maybe alluded to that in the first round of this.

Yeah, I realized

it was.

It was a shocking overreach of right-wingedness.

Yes.

Bill Frist, a senator slash

doctor not dealing with patients in the Terry Terry Shivo world.

How would you concisely explain to people who don't know what the Terry Shivo case was?

Okay, well, I have it right here.

It's a woman.

Terry is a woman in a persistent vegetative state who had become...

So

she's never going to come back.

The thing is that I guess...

A vegetative state, I think, when you think about it, is that you're like,

that person is sleeping.

Terry Shaivo had...

I know, I don't think that at all.

That's like what I would have thought.

Oh, really?

Yeah, if I heard like a vegetable, like that was the term.

She's like in a, she's like in a comatose state and never coming out of it.

Like she's but there was like eyes were open and there was like movement and that was what really opened the box to Bill Frist and the fucking lunatic Republicans being like, I could see in her eyes she wants to live.

And there was also that other reverend guy.

Oh, God, I can't remember his name.

Whatever.

It was all really, it was just a collection of all the.

It was a pro-life on a level that

should have been stopped.

I really think it was, this was one of the first things driven by the internet

for the right.

I really think it was.

So she's in a persistent vegetative state, and then she's like this national lightning rod over end-of-life decisions.

Right.

So the court had ruled that Terry's husband could have the feeding tube removed, stating that she wouldn't have wanted prolonged life support without consciousness but her parents objected that's right so the so he had to go to court to to make it happen over what the parents wanted right

so bo

of course inserts himself into the situation he has to he's bow grits yeah who else is needed here yep

uh he shows up with citizens arrest warrants oh the best for the judge

what a start the florida attorney general you're You're under arrest.

You're under arrest.

The husband?

You, sir, are obviously under arrest.

You're trying to kill your wife.

And, of course, Governor Jeb Bush.

Bush, get in here.

Who am I?

Bo Nicks.

Police department.

My own mind.

Grits.

Grits.

Nicks is a football player.

Bo Grits, police officer of my own brain.

I, too, am in a vegetative state, just one that is

a little more mobility.

How the fuck does this dude who shot himself in the goddamn chest come over here and push like

life rights?

It's so fucking crazy.

Now, Jeb Bush is a piece of shit

who once worked for the CIA.

He donated to Bo's campaign a decade before, decade before.

Wow.

Talk about now.

You're regretting that donation, aren't you?

Now that you're being arrested

and put in Bo Court?

Bro Court, like Bro Court.

My buddy Berg and I watched

the 20

the 2020 or the 2016

first Republican or second Republican debate where Trump just went off.

Yeah.

And I mean, the assault that is taking place on Jeb Bush, while at the cost of our futures for sure, it was a takedown.

So satisfying.

It was a takedown.

Well, they are right in that they always acted like Bush protected us from terrorism, but he was the guy who was in charge when we had our worst terrorist act ever.

Yeah, he didn't protect us.

Trump can be right about the bushes and also the worst thing that's ever happened.

True.

So

the feeding tube is removed.

And Beau was arrested for misdemeanor trespassing after attempting to enter the hospice facility against the wishes of even her parents.

And we act, act, nobody's on your side.

Don't worry.

I know what I'm doing.

I'm taking everybody down.

Don't worry.

I just placed Terry Shiva under citizens' arrest.

Bo.

I've also arrested myself.

Bo.

I arrested the bed.

I've arrested the toilet, the bed.

A lot of stuff's going on.

The feeding tube is arrested.

The feeding tube's been under arrest for a while.

I'm holding it for questioning right now.

No, not the feeding tube.

Oh, wait, shit.

Put the two back in.

Put it back in.

Oh, shit.

So after that, Bo,

relatively quiet on the national scene.

Okay.

Or at least unable to get headlines like he used to.

Like people were just kind of like.

Okay.

That's worse than anything.

Starving.

We get it.

Lived on an abandoned, lived on an abandoned airfield

in Sandy Valley, Nevada with his age-appropriate wife, Judy.

Over the sunset years,

he rode his motorcycle, flew his Cessna.

He was active in his local American Legion post.

He's basically like a Cialis commercial.

Yeah, he's like an old guy.

Yeah.

He taught karate and recorded an internet radio show called Freedom Call.

Also, known as a podcast, but back then they were literally radio shows.

You can no longer find Freedom Call, which is sad, but you can find some of his spike videos for free at bowgrits.us.

He's not in them.

He's still alive.

Or no, I think he's dead.

I think he just died.

I think when this got written, he was alive.

Really?

But I do believe he just died.

Yeah.

Let me look.

I thought he.

Oh, no, he's still alive.

Never mind.

He's still alive.

I'm wrong.

This is awesome.

This is Spike One tape one of three.

Yeah.

Training videos known as Spike.

SPICE is an acronym.

It stands for Specially Prepared Individuals for Key Events.

When 911 cannot or will not, for whatever reason, respond to your distress, then this training will prepare you

to take care of yourself and those that love and depend upon you, your family, your church members, your neighborhood.

When you consider Hurricane Andrew,

911 couldn't respond to the many calls if there were any telephone lines left up when you take a look at the riots in l a

consider the floods of the midwest the sins literally everything that's happening that we need bow storms that went through the northeast with all of their ice the torque ice ice i mean so appropriate uh all right well the audio quality quality is good there um so he's still with us he's still with us he's 86.

uh When looking back at his life and career, Bose summed it up.

Quote, I'm very glad that things went the way they did.

I wouldn't want to be a general in the Pentagon today with

no gunads sitting there, having been castrated.

Goonads.

Oh, goonads.

He called them gunads.

Sure.

Sitting there having been castrated of my initiative or any real talent that I might have.

Wow.

Research by Josh Androwski, Sources of Revolution of Small Guns by Adam Parfay, San Diego Reader, Prisoners of Hope by Susan Katz-Keating, and Ruby Ridge, part three, Fear and Faith by Corey Brassanahan,

PBS.

That's it.

You know,

it's funny because I

like you said, we had some audio issues, so we obviously, so we had to come back and re-record this part.

But in the interim, I realized those,

I'd always seen those P-O-W-M-I-A flags everywhere.

And I never really

made the connection.

Yeah, yeah.

Is that is that?

Yeah, that.

Well, that, yeah, I mean, that was always kind of a thing, but I think he really made it big.

Like, I think he's everywhere now.

Yeah, they are.

And that really is like us saying, yeah, it's crazy.

Yeah.

Can you imagine a flag being built on lies?

Wow.

It's nuts, man.

Nuts.

Wow.

The research for that statement was done by Josh Androwski.

Also, the article Palmia Flag-Lie Correlation by Alice Koncaros.

And

the lead-up to the thought

by

Frenchie

McGoo Clown Pants.

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