690 - The Baseball Fight

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Speaker 40 The San Diego Padres baseball team were in Atlanta to take on the Atlanta Braves for a three-game series.

Speaker 40 Now, Gareth, this was

Speaker 40 a long, hot summer for both teams. Sure.
Atlanta had future Hall of Fame manager Joe Torrey in his third season in charge.

Speaker 41 And if people don't know Joe Torrey, just picture Paul Sorvino bargain bin.

Speaker 40 Yeah. That's right.

Speaker 40 The Braves started slow,

Speaker 40 but they turned it on. and on June 7th, they were in first place.

Speaker 40 They had a 1.5 game lead over the San Diego Padres. It's one and a half.
Yep. For those of you.

Speaker 41 Now, just to reset the stakes, what is the value of this series?

Speaker 40 This is to. We'll get there.
Okay.

Speaker 40 So they immediately, after getting into first place, lost five games in a row and dropped out of first. Okay.
Right. They would never recover for the rest of the season.

Speaker 41 Okay.

Speaker 40 Now, on June 16th, they were four games out of first and they were playing with the Cincinnati Reds.

Speaker 40 And the Reds pitcher threw several brushback pitches at the Braves' best hitter.

Speaker 41 Chin Music.

Speaker 40 Claudelle Washington. Little Chin Music? Chin Music is what it's called.

Speaker 40 So if you're not familiar with baseball, brushback pitch means you're throwing very close to the guy and making him jump back.

Speaker 41 It's called a face tune. Nope.
It's called a crotch rocket. Not.

Speaker 41 It's called a belly backer.

Speaker 40 Nope.

Speaker 41 It's whatever gets the guy to move away from the plate a a little bit. You're kind of claiming ownership.
Yeah. So you're throwing the ball closer to the guy to sort of say, hey, back up.

Speaker 40 My plate. Yeah.

Speaker 41 It's a knee get back.

Speaker 40 The guy was watching a baseball highlight. It's a thigh buy.

Speaker 40 None of those are things. I was watching a baseball highlight the other day on Instagram because it's kind of the only place I watched Major League Baseball now is clips on there.

Speaker 40 And a guy threw inside and hit a player's hands. And the player was like, what are you going to get?

Speaker 40 That's the second time you've done that. And the pitcher was just like, get off my plate.
Wow. Get off my home plate.

Speaker 41 Like a kid with vegetables.

Speaker 40 A lot of pitchers are like, I own that. You don't get to lean over it or get too close.

Speaker 41 Now, whose side are you on in that? It feels like you're pro-pitcher, yeah.

Speaker 40 Yeah, I'm the pitcher side.

Speaker 41 Yeah, so you don't mind the pitcher throwing a little.

Speaker 41 He's making a handstand.

Speaker 40 You don't get to lean over the plate. Right.

Speaker 41 So throwing it at someone's hands. My favorite version of that is where they throw it at the hands.

Speaker 40 I mean, you can really hurt somebody. Hitting someone with a baseball in the hands you can ruin their career that's that's bad but also don't stand there

Speaker 41 well i i don't know enough it's like standing on a highway and getting upset you got hit by a car i think that's totally different one's valid one's weird well that's standing next to the home plate is weird but

Speaker 41 the amount of times i huh that's how i make my money you do it on what

Speaker 40 standing out in the highway huh

Speaker 41 all right it's my job have we have we we've discussed how you could tell things are going good in this country by the the fact that a lot more people are just straight up walking down the freeway, right?

Speaker 40 It's a good sign. Okay.

Speaker 40 So

Speaker 40 the hitter, Claudia Washington, has had enough after however many brushback pitches, and he throws his bat toward the pitcher.

Speaker 41 Okay, which is not, that's another, that's your way of saying to the pitcher, back up, you stopped.

Speaker 40 You're not allowed to do that.

Speaker 41 Yeah, it's called a mound pound.

Speaker 40 And the ump tries to hold Washington.

Speaker 41 What if the ump throws his mask at the batter? You don't do that.

Speaker 40 People keep throwing until.

Speaker 40 The ump tries to hold back Washington. Washington literally throws the umpire to the ground because he's a very large man.

Speaker 40 And then the pitcher punches Washington.

Speaker 40 Washington teammates come out and try to hold him down from going crazy. While they're doing that, the pitcher throws

Speaker 40 the baseball into the pack of Braves pitchers trying to hold down Washington.

Speaker 41 I haven't seen a lot of that. I like that.

Speaker 40 And hit a Braves coach.

Speaker 40 And then when they finally get everything calmed down, MLB suspends the pitcher for three games

Speaker 40 and the hitter five because he threw the umpire.

Speaker 40 On the bat. You're not allowed to throw umpires.
Right. I didn't think they cared as much about

Speaker 40 as much as they did.

Speaker 41 You hurt the umpire.

Speaker 40 You can't throw the umpire. Right.
Yeah, okay. You can't throw the umpire.
Okay.

Speaker 40 So the Braves, sometimes fights will like spark teams to win more. Not the Braves.
The Braves kept plummeting and losing.

Speaker 40 And at the end of July, they're 8.5 games out of first, but still in second place. Okay.

Speaker 40 And it just gets worse. The San Diego Padres are in first place, but they are having a crazy

Speaker 40 off-field season. Okay.

Speaker 40 So Dick Williams is the Padres' manager. He's really old school,

Speaker 40 tough.

Speaker 40 has a nasty tongue, like says whatever he wants. Like he's an old school dick.
Right. The name is right.
Right. He's a dickhead.
Right.

Speaker 40 He's won a couple of World Series, so he's a good manager. The Padres are going for the title again.
They've signed really big names that offseason. They signed Steve Garvey.

Speaker 40 They signed Goose Gossage. Yes, Goose Gossage is your real name.
And at this point, he's won World Series. He's a big pitcher.

Speaker 41 Okay. The name, though, is problematic.

Speaker 40 Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 40 I'm sure he got into a lot of fights being nicknamed Goose.

Speaker 41 It really does sound like a duck sausage.

Speaker 40 Okay. I'll give you that.
Thank you. But goose's are mean as

Speaker 41 good geese can be mean. Yeah.

Speaker 40 Yeah.

Speaker 40 So they sign these big guys, and then a couple days later, the owner dies. So the team has his initials on their sleeve the whole year.

Speaker 40 The team is stacked. They have a lot of really good players.
They have a very young Tony Gwynn, who is one of the best hitters ever.

Speaker 40 And they're pretty much just sailing through. So in July,

Speaker 40 three of their pitchers decide to start talking about the evils of communism to the press. And at this point, which is, well, no, but that's just normal baseball thing.

Speaker 41 Normal, that's fine.

Speaker 40 But at this point, you don't really, it's not really a baseball thing. Like, people don't really push their political stuff out there.
Like, it's really weird.

Speaker 41 So it's 84, so we're Reagan. So he's definitely

Speaker 41 in the kind of

Speaker 41 the USSR, Gorby, Reagan. Yeah.

Speaker 40 Right.

Speaker 40 So the pictures.

Speaker 41 Not that we ever left the anti-commie stuff in this country.

Speaker 40 Definitely the first thing a lot of life cycles. A lot of people are just saying that constantly, never stopping.

Speaker 40 So the pictures were Eric Scho, Mark Thurman, and Dave Dravecki.

Speaker 40 And

Speaker 40 they were basically introducing a lot of people in America to the ideas of the John Birch Society. Oh, God.

Speaker 40 Which is a level of anti-communism that should have won institutionalized, but is now the norm with Republicans. Yeah, right.

Speaker 40 So the three pitchers at this point are giving Bircher interviews, going to Bercher events,

Speaker 40 and the LA Times prints this really long story with the pitchers' quotes on July 8th. And the story just explodes across the country.
Everyone's just like, what the fuck? Okay.

Speaker 40 The headlines had... uh were like quote three padres admit ties to birchers

Speaker 40 so birchers are considered a bad thing.

Speaker 40 Pitchers believe the fate of the world is on the line.

Speaker 41 Pitchers.

Speaker 40 That's correct.

Speaker 41 You got to love, like, it's

Speaker 41 like people get mad at people in entertainment for giving. Like, if you're a comedian and you're espousing your political views, it's like, well, there's sort of like,

Speaker 41 within your structure of appeal, there is something to your opinions having value.

Speaker 40 You're talking about society. Yes.

Speaker 41 It's weird when it's like, I throw a football far.

Speaker 40 Yeah.

Speaker 41 Here's my theory on the GDP.

Speaker 40 I throw a football, by the way, I'm going to talk to you about vaccines now.

Speaker 41 I'm really good at kicking the ball through two big poles. Here's why women should not be able to work.

Speaker 40 So they're famous, right? So they are like, well, let's use our position to do what is called birching.

Speaker 41 Oh, fuck me.

Speaker 40 I'd like to birch you. What? Yeah.

Speaker 40 Quote, if our freedoms were taken away, even...

Speaker 41 Just pictures.

Speaker 40 Quote, if our freedoms were taken away, even baseball would cease to exist.

Speaker 41 That is under.

Speaker 40 Baseball's under attack. Ain't no baseball in these places like Cuba.
Well, yeah, I mean, honestly. There's a lot of baseball in Cuba, actually.
So much.

Speaker 41 Oh, man.

Speaker 40 Jesus Christ. It just shows the level of stupid.

Speaker 41 Yeah, again, I mean, why are you that for any political ideology? Why are you, why would you, you know, value it?

Speaker 41 There are, there obviously are ones where you're like, you know, as time goes on, you're like, oh, man, the fucking dude knew exactly what he was talking about.

Speaker 41 But there are some where you're just like, dude, shut up. It's always the dumbest or the loudest.

Speaker 40 So they would go and sign baseballs at bircher booths to try to attract people.

Speaker 40 Javecki is a born-again Christian. Quote, I think if Jesus Christ were in my shoes, he'd be one of the most aggressive pitchers around.

Speaker 40 That is...

Speaker 41 The only reason that's okay is because he's religious. You are not allowed to, like, that is so fucking insane to think.

Speaker 41 Let alone, like,

Speaker 41 bring him in. Make the call.
He's in the bullpen.

Speaker 40 Here's the thing about Jesus. Jesus owns the plate.
There's no way Jesus would let a guy put his fucking hands over the plate trying to get an outsider.

Speaker 41 Jesus Christ on the mound.

Speaker 40 Jesus owns the inside. Jesus owns the outside.

Speaker 41 I mean, like, the idea that he would even be like, full count, Jesus' been a little off tonight.

Speaker 40 Like, he's Jesus.

Speaker 41 I think Jesus would be a pretty good picture. I think he'd be amazing.

Speaker 41 I mean, what?

Speaker 40 When a reporter had.

Speaker 41 Jesus out this year. He's having Tommy Johns.
Didn't know how

Speaker 41 breakable Jesus was.

Speaker 40 Jesus is going to be out for a year and a half.

Speaker 41 Jesus, we have rumors that Jesus is retiring today.

Speaker 40 Good Lord. Great Lord.

Speaker 40 When a reporter had been assigned to write a story on Eric's show, the first thing Eric did was give him a copy of Anne Rand's The Fountainhead.

Speaker 40 Ayn Rand. I mean, also, fuck off.
Like, your name is shit.

Speaker 40 Well, as far as I'm concerned, it's Anne.

Speaker 41 Yeah, well, I mean, there's really... Ain is so dumb.

Speaker 40 I mean, it's the worst. Yeah.
What are you doing?

Speaker 40 How about have a whole name?

Speaker 41 Yeah.

Speaker 40 Ain't. No, it's not a name.

Speaker 40 It's like you heard something.

Speaker 41 Ain Rand.

Speaker 40 So these three pitchers are now Berchers, and they gave an interview together. Show, quote, and these are all from the LA Times article.
Show, quote, capitalist natures.

Speaker 40 Capitalist nations would crumble and die from the inside, not the outside. Dave Draveck.
Good.

Speaker 40 That's way better. No, from communism oh sorry

Speaker 40 no no but I mean that's good no but he's saying he's saying it would crumble from the it's a bad thing I understand he's saying that but even when the way he's saying crumbling from the inside is great well that's what's happening it's great yeah

Speaker 40 Dravecki quote communism is not the in not the end in itself it's only a way to socialize the entire world so special interest groups will be the master and we we will be the slaves if that is we even live.

Speaker 40 And I think

Speaker 40 Christian.

Speaker 41 Time has really proven him right.

Speaker 41 Thank God we avoided a life of communism because otherwise, you know, we would all feel like we were slaves while special interests just took over completely.

Speaker 40 Thank God that didn't happen.

Speaker 41 We stuck to capitalism and beat it. Now everything's good.
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Speaker 40 Thurman, quote, before I was just one of those people ignorant of what really really goes on.

Speaker 41 Imagine.

Speaker 40 So San Diego in 1984 was going through this militant social conservatism

Speaker 40 following Reagan and local religious leaders were entering politics. The Reverend Dorman Owens and his followers would march through gay areas of San Diego holding signs that said, got AIDS yet?

Speaker 40 It's called converting people, Gareth.

Speaker 41 I mean, look, it's obviously a pretty good outreach.

Speaker 41 Got AIDS yet.

Speaker 40 A nearby city voted on banning X-rated movies from cable TV. One flyer quote: What kind of man watches the Playboy channel?

Speaker 41 What are you talking about?

Speaker 41 What are you talking about?

Speaker 40 What do you mean, what kind of man?

Speaker 40 I was a boy then, and I was just trying to get

Speaker 40 the little slider thing just right.

Speaker 41 Dude, we were talking the other day about

Speaker 41 when Cinemax would do a week preview if you had HBO.

Speaker 40 Little boy masturbation week.

Speaker 41 It was like the amount of VHS recordings I was doing, you would think that I was like, it was like I was preparing game film for a professional sports team. I was recording everything.
Yeah.

Speaker 41 And then just putting on there like the naked gun. And then my mom would be like, why'd you have three copies of the naked gun? I'd be like, don't look at any of them.

Speaker 40 It's a different kind of naked gun. Yeah.
And it's loaded.

Speaker 41 But what's weirder? What's weirder? Watching the Playboy channel or having an app with your son where you keep each other accountable for watching porn and masturbating. You tell me which is weirder.

Speaker 40 Playboy channel. Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 40 A flyer. Oh, I said that.
The Marines came to games in uniform and the stadium played the Marines hymn, after which they would yell, ooh-rah. So that kind of still happens there in San Diego.

Speaker 40 So a lot of players in uniform. I mean, a lot of Marines in uniform.

Speaker 41 Oh, well, that, but that's all.

Speaker 40 It's a big military town.

Speaker 41 As is sports in general now, the line blurring with being like, we're going to have the Blue Angels fly over games.

Speaker 40 but there but not not playing the marine him and doing no no the marines is probably pretty specific my one of my relatives was

Speaker 40 and i should have talked to him about um

Speaker 40 uh cunningham dude cunningham but he was a instructor at top gun

Speaker 40 uh

Speaker 40 and like he was the shit like he was like a really fucking amazing pilot and um

Speaker 40 I really should have talked to him about Cunningham, but I didn't. But

Speaker 40 he died recently, and the funeral they gave him was so fucking bullshit. Like, it was just like,

Speaker 40 this is how bad it was.

Speaker 40 At one point, a dude drives up, gets out of a Honda Civic, walks over, waits like three minutes, then gets a signal and does the bugle thing, and then gets in his Honda and drives away.

Speaker 40 And you're talking about one of the fucking top, like, they just don't care about the military guys. I mean,

Speaker 40 they don't give a shit.

Speaker 41 What's so bizarre about this time is that

Speaker 41 this, this

Speaker 41 hollowed speech of support the troops and whatnot,

Speaker 41 it's like the proof is so obvious that when you gut the VA,

Speaker 41 every chance you get,

Speaker 40 who supports the troops?

Speaker 41 No, they're not. The people who are like, yeah, don't send them there because you don't support them or the people that get over there.
You don't get healthcare. Yeah.

Speaker 40 So

Speaker 40 the players are all surrounded by right-wing stuff.

Speaker 40 Steve Garvey campaigned for Reagan, so it's a very right-wing team.

Speaker 40 The team also had a racism and sexism problem.

Speaker 41 It's so funny that they have a Spanish name, too. I know.
America's the best. Go, Padres.

Speaker 40 The team also had a racism and sexism problem. Later that year, a black woman reporter was thrown out of the locker room by team employees.

Speaker 40 Six years later, Tony Gwindahl was found lynched in the Padres' dugout.

Speaker 40 But for now, Eric Show explained what's at stake to the LA Times: quote, democracy is only a transition to anarchy leading to totalitarian state.

Speaker 40 The only way to get out of this thing short of revolution is massive education, which I and my friends hope to provide. Oh my God.

Speaker 41 So saying that democracy is a transition into that,

Speaker 41 like, how do you...

Speaker 40 He's saying democracy is bad. Yeah.
Right.

Speaker 40 That's what a lot of people are. That's a red flag.
Well, that's what they all think now. I mean, it's not any different.

Speaker 41 It feels like now they do the thing where they're like saying it's democracy, but maybe less now.

Speaker 40 A lot of them just are out now saying democracy is bad.

Speaker 40 It's pretty cool. Yeah, it's very cool.

Speaker 40 So

Speaker 40 that's like

Speaker 40 a sort of classic religious lunatic victim mentality like we are at siege, right? So they have this siege mentality within the dugout. Just also, yeah, yeah yeah

Speaker 40 so coming into the games on that weekend the braves

Speaker 40 are just the usual angry baseball team who were in first and now are really fucked and the padres are a shitstorm of bananas

Speaker 40 one braves bat boy who had been with the team for three years and when i say bat boy i mean he's a 17 year old

Speaker 40 He's a Batman. Yeah, Batman-ish.

Speaker 40 Batman. But having been there for three years, he's part of the team.
He's looped into everything. He's with the same people 12 to 14 hours a day.
So he has a sense of what's going on.

Speaker 40 And coming into the game, he felt like something was up.

Speaker 40 So they play the first two games. And in the third game of the series,

Speaker 40 the first pitch of the game is a fastball by Braves pitcher Pascual Perez.

Speaker 40 into the back of the Padres Alan Wiggins.

Speaker 41 Is he one of the three no no okay

Speaker 40 as wiggins the three won't come up again that's just trying to create an atmosphere

Speaker 40 as wiggins walk to first he's pointing and yelling at the pitcher sure

Speaker 40 and his padres teams come out onto the grass in front of the dugout that's uh for those of you not familiar that they're not happy

Speaker 40 that's that man like

Speaker 41 they're showing teeth

Speaker 40 Padres manager Dick Williams thinks the Braves are trying to intimidate his players with the hope that it would lead to them crashing out and falling apart and going on a losing streak.

Speaker 40 The Braves would later just say it was an accident. He didn't mean to hit him.
Sure.

Speaker 40 Now, I think in today's game, they have a little more control with their pitches. They're better at throwing strikes.
Right.

Speaker 40 So when a guy gets hit now, it seems more intentional than it did back then. Okay.

Speaker 41 If you're a pitcher and you hit someone intentionally, is your role to sort of own it or are you going like, what do you mean to?

Speaker 40 You could do either either yeah

Speaker 40 bad boy uh bat boy phillips what i'll call him

Speaker 40 um

Speaker 40 to this day uh

Speaker 40 says nothing was up quote i would have known something i would have known something was going on so he's like it wasn't intentional that's pretty cool to be like a bat boy to be like i know what's up with my squad he would hear in the dugout Yeah, what was going on?

Speaker 40 Because when you're in one of those positions where you're not in the thing but you're just outside of it and everyone's talking to you you kind of know more almost than the guys in the thing

Speaker 40 um

Speaker 40 so now back then if you hit if you hit a batter with the first pitch one of your players is going to get hit

Speaker 40 right a retaliatory strike retaliation um sometime during the game you're right now you know someone's going to get hit someone's going to get hit so padres manager dick wills very old school uh

Speaker 40 and so he was for sure like he got to throw out one of their guys. So, absolutely, this is one of baseball's unwritten rules.

Speaker 40 So, he told this pitcher to throw at Perez and hit him. So, San Diego starter was Ed Witson.
Now, you may

Speaker 40 remember Ed from the Billy Martin episodes because

Speaker 40 this season, the one we're talking about now,

Speaker 40 is a year later, he would be playing for the Yankees

Speaker 40 and Billy. And Ed got into a fight in a bar with Billy, and Ed ended up with a broken rib and fractured hand.
Okay.

Speaker 41 So maybe a little bit.

Speaker 41 He likes to play it loose.

Speaker 40 Ed doesn't take shit.

Speaker 41 He's open. Yeah.

Speaker 41 He's open for business.

Speaker 40 So back to present game. So Ed throws a pitch at the Braves pitcher, who's now at bat,

Speaker 40 Perez, but it misses.

Speaker 40 It goes behind him. Well, that's bad, too.
And

Speaker 40 Perez is a pretty tall, skinny dude.

Speaker 40 He doesn't like it. Right.
And he starts kind of scamping around behind the plate, and he's holding his bat like you would when you're going to hit somebody.

Speaker 40 But like defensively, like he's like, who's coming at me? Like he's still wild. It's a little weird.

Speaker 41 You're watching the game.

Speaker 40 You're like, these guys are, there's something's going on.

Speaker 40 Then he starts backing towards the dugout and then the Padres catcher jumps up and now he starts chasing him. So the Potter's catcher chases him towards the dugout and then

Speaker 40 the Braves players come out of their dugouts to stop the catcher.

Speaker 40 And then the Padres come out of their dugouts, and they both end up standing on.

Speaker 40 You see this in a tons of, we're going to fight, but we're not going to fight moments.

Speaker 40 So they're on either side of home plate in a big bunch, both teams, and they're just kind of staring at each other. Jawing.

Speaker 41 It's like in a bar when two dudes are yelling and you're like, then neither of them want to fight.

Speaker 40 Neither wants to fight.

Speaker 41 But neither wants the same weed.

Speaker 40 That's right. That's right.

Speaker 40 And so, but they calm everybody down.

Speaker 40 They glare at each other for a while. It's diffused.

Speaker 41 That is still wild for a guy to be running away and for a catcher to be like, you get up here and back.

Speaker 41 You don't do that.

Speaker 40 So the umpires then give Edwitson and both managers warnings. So that means if anything else happens that we deem unacceptable, we get to just throw you out.
Right.

Speaker 40 So they go back to playing and Prez strikes out. Okay.

Speaker 40 Now, the unwritten rules say,

Speaker 40 and there's a lot of fucking young people that just think the unwritten rules are dumb. I have a more complicated

Speaker 40 view of it. So it's unwritten rules.
It's to police the game in itself because sometimes umpires do not police the game well.

Speaker 41 Are you talking about kind of gentlemanly rules, sort of?

Speaker 40 No, they're literally, no, they're not gentlemanly rules. They're the game polices itself so certain shit doesn't happen, like throwing at a guy.
Uh-huh.

Speaker 40 So if you throw at a guy to hit a guy, then the team is like, okay, well, now we're we're gonna do that because you don't want throwing at a guy to become commonplace. Right.

Speaker 41 So it it stops that. Eye for an eye.

Speaker 40 On the other hand, you could destroy someone's career or seriously injure them. So it's kind of crazy.
Sure. So I see both, like I'm not, I'm not a guy that's like, that's so terrible.
That's awesome.

Speaker 40 It's kind of a gray area in the middle. The game places off.
And I do think now the unwritten rules are sort of gone, I think someone will at some point get tragically hurt. Okay.

Speaker 40 That's my belief, but we'll see. We'll see what happens.

Speaker 41 Is this going to be one of these clips that in like, you know, however long they're going to Preston will edit this to show you saying that this is going to happen?

Speaker 40 But it's also, it's also a tool of racists. So it was a great way to keep for white, not that good players to keep people like Ricky Henderson, quote unquote, in line.

Speaker 40 Right. So it's because the

Speaker 40 Cubans,

Speaker 40 the Dominicans, dudes from Oakland had more flair and they had more, let's show it off and have a good time.

Speaker 40 So the white dudes who were boring and stiff, who probably listened to a Lawrence Welk, would throw at them to try to. So it's, there's a lot of, there's a lot of fucking bullshit.

Speaker 41 And I think you're sounding kind of negative on it. So, but people listening, like, we, we lie, we think we need the white police people to sort of keep the flair out of the game.

Speaker 41 It's important since we can't do it. You know what I mean? It's like white people can't dance as well.
So nobody should dance.

Speaker 40 That's right.

Speaker 40 Yeah. But like I said, it's complicated.
If you could take the racism out of it, it might be a better thing. You can't take the racism out of it.
So it's very.

Speaker 41 Which is what makes it the great American pastime.

Speaker 40 But I do still think someone will get hurt.

Speaker 40 But whatever.

Speaker 40 Does that make it worth it? Probably not. Okay.
Anyway, but people are going to get mad and act like I didn't just make a very sort of

Speaker 40 I'm all over the place on it argument. And they'll just go, you're so fucking old.
Guaranteed. Well, you are so fucking old um

Speaker 40 so

Speaker 40 they hit the hit a guy got hit then they threw at a guy and missed him but under the unwritten rules it's they still owe him one no it's over it's over you you let him know you tried to hit him you let him know with that pitch we don't like what you did okay and that's all you're supposed to do and he got he didn't get a little it wasn't a little chin music he got a backtrack it got through

Speaker 41 it was behind him and he moved forward

Speaker 40 so so that should be the end of it that's it you made your point you had your chance

Speaker 40 another ball boy said quote i specifically remember looking at greg booker who was a pitcher for the uh for the padres and i said i can't believe that just happened and he just looked at me and smiled and that's when i thought oh something's getting ready to go down

Speaker 41 really we're teasing a moment here so two weeks later

Speaker 40 perez comes back up to hit right so the pitcher who threw the first ball coming back up to hit. And Ed Witson is the pitcher.
And he's

Speaker 40 three inside

Speaker 40 pitches to Perez. None of them hit Perez because Perez is expecting it and he keeps jumping out of the way.
Right.

Speaker 40 But the umpire still throws Ed out of the game after he's like, that's it. This is too much.
We gave you warnings. They're not allowed to grudge.

Speaker 40 Yeah.

Speaker 40 And they let him get away with the, yeah, so whatever. So manager and manager Dick Williams is out.
So the manager and the player. Okay.

Speaker 40 And the bad boy looks at that Padres pitcher again, quote, I go, are we over now? And he goes, nope, it's only just begun.

Speaker 40 It should be over. It should

Speaker 40 now.

Speaker 41 They've tried to hit Perez four times.

Speaker 40 Right.

Speaker 41 So now you would be like, all right, look, he just dodged a bunch of them.

Speaker 40 He got the point.

Speaker 41 He got the point.

Speaker 41 Now two guys have been thrown out from the Braves.

Speaker 41 So now, right from the Braves?

Speaker 40 No, from the Padres. From the Padres.

Speaker 41 So

Speaker 41 two guys have been thrown out from the Padres.

Speaker 41 Now you have to say we're done, but they're this. So this is a predetermined.

Speaker 40 This is past the unwritten rule. This is no longer the unwritten rules.
This is revenge weird. It's not.

Speaker 41 This is becoming lore.

Speaker 40 Yeah, it's not part of the unwritten rules anymore.

Speaker 40 So the same pitcher whose name is Booker is then. So the guy who said that, it's not, this is just starting.
He's now put in the game to replace Ed, who just got thrown out.

Speaker 40 So they really want to hurt him. The next time Perez comes up, he gets walked,

Speaker 40 which kind of makes the Braves are like, oh, it's over. We just walked the guy.

Speaker 40 And then he comes up again to hit in the sixth inning.

Speaker 40 And Booker's first pitch goes behind Perez again.

Speaker 41 Okay, another backtrack.

Speaker 40 But doesn't hit him again.

Speaker 41 This dude's dodging a lot.

Speaker 40 Well, the Potters are having a hard time hitting him. He's a super skinny.
He's a bean pole. He's a super skinny guy.
Right. And he's athletic, so he's jumping out of the fucking way.
Right.

Speaker 40 But that's making the situation more tense.

Speaker 41 Yeah, because every time

Speaker 40 they throw him misses, just hit him. Yeah, it makes it worse.
They're getting angry watching it.

Speaker 40 Well, because also they're not supposed to be doing it.

Speaker 41 It's like outside.

Speaker 40 So he's dodging everything. So Booker is thrown out of the game.
As was the guy who took over as manager for the Potters.

Speaker 41 So the replacement manager, the original manager, the guy who was pitching before him, and the guy who's currently pitching, all tossed.

Speaker 40 An Atlanta bat boy said, quote, I think it felt like they were truly trying to hurt him. From where I sat in the on-deck circle, that's what it felt like.
Right. I think that's right.

Speaker 40 Yes, they are trying to hurt him. Yes.

Speaker 40 So the tension increases each time they miss him. And the Braves

Speaker 40 also are upset because the Potters weren't following the unwritten rules. Right.

Speaker 41 He must, so he's a pitcher, a starting pitcher. What do you usually get at a starting pitcher? Five, six innings?

Speaker 40 No, back then, no, you get way more. Oh, so, okay.
Back then, baseball was baseball.

Speaker 41 So he would maybe go eight innings.

Speaker 40 Yeah, and then you try to go eight. Right.
Okay.

Speaker 41 So he's still in there.

Speaker 40 So

Speaker 40 another Brace Bat boy said, quote, usually you hit or throw at a position player, not a pitcher. So that's the other thing is.
Right.

Speaker 41 Your revenge is being taken right out on the guy who hit him.

Speaker 40 Because they didn't hit at the start of the game, they didn't hit a pitcher. They threw and hit a batter and a good batter.
So then your thing would be like,

Speaker 40 so that's part of the way the whole idea of it is: you hit one of our good guys, we'll hit one of your better guys.

Speaker 41 We'll hit your

Speaker 40 better guys. And what you don't want is your better guy to break a rib and be out for a couple of weeks.
So don't throw at anybody. That's the idea behind it, right? Right.

Speaker 40 Which is crazy.

Speaker 41 Because they're going right at the pitcher. Yes.
The guy who hit the guy, they're going right at him.

Speaker 40 And three times now. Yes.

Speaker 40 So

Speaker 40 two managers out, blah, blah, blah. So,

Speaker 40 quote, usually you hit or throw at a position player, not a pitcher, but because they were intentionally going after Prez, the Braves were mad. They're angry.

Speaker 40 And tensions were getting higher and higher as they could continue to throw at Prez.

Speaker 41 Throw at the manager.

Speaker 40 It would have been different if they'd thrown at or hit Claudell. They were saying this is not something that you do.
Yes. Right.

Speaker 40 So throw at Washington because he's the biggest biggest guy on the team. Sure.
Right. Okay.

Speaker 41 The unwritten rules are very funny.

Speaker 40 Yeah, they are because they're unwritten, but they're very specific.

Speaker 41 It's like we're violating rules, but you've got to violate them with the rules. Violate rules with the rules about violating them.

Speaker 40 So most people watching the game, the broadcasters, the fans, and even some players thought it was over because now they've thrown him three. They're like, yeah, so that's done.

Speaker 40 They'd thrown him three bats now, three at bats now. The message delivered, but then Prez comes up to bat in the eighth.

Speaker 40 A lot of teams at this point would have taken him out of the game. Right.
That's kind of what I was alluding to before. That's the difference.

Speaker 41 Is that because he's being tossed at so much? You'd be like,

Speaker 41 you don't want him hurt. But they're kind of posturing being like, fuck you.

Speaker 40 Now, what would happen is they would take him out of the game and then they would throw at the other team.

Speaker 40 But they would just get him out of there because he's got a really good chance of getting hurt. Right.
Yeah.

Speaker 40 So Podgers reliever Craig Lefferts is now pitching, and he threw at Perez and finally hits him. Oh, Oh, shit.
Hits him in the side and the elbow. Oh, boy.
I love how lights are already going off. Yep.

Speaker 40 Dropping.

Speaker 40 And then all hell breaks loose.

Speaker 41 Where do they hit him?

Speaker 40 In the elbow and the side. Oof.

Speaker 40 The Braves charge out of their dugout, trying to get at Lefferts. Okay.
And the Padres run out of their dugout.

Speaker 40 And guys are now punching each other and tackling each other.

Speaker 41 They have to have a real extra level of energy after wanting to hit perez and and the other side getting upset that they're trying to hit perez they're sitting in there sort of bubbling getting ready for it yeah it's it's it's literally hours of of just there's a parent building up rage yeah

Speaker 40 and uh it is funny that the light went out yeah it's perfect it's a luke

Speaker 40 project So the fight goes on for about a minute, and then it starts to slow down. And then there's like two separate piles of dudes

Speaker 40 as they try to get and hurt guys at the bottom so they have like a main target so like all the braves want to get lefferts and the other guys want to get this guy so they each are after

Speaker 40 a guy but it seems to stopped and then the padres backup first baseman champ summers who's 6'2 205 pounds breaks away from the braves bob watson who is holding him and runs toward the Atlanta dugout

Speaker 40 because he wants to get a piece of Prez, who's is now being held in there and guarded by other players. Wow.

Speaker 40 And Braves player Bob Horner, who is not playing because he has a broken wrist

Speaker 40 and who had been in street clothes at the beginning of the game up in the press box watching the game, is now in uniform. Because when the tension started and the almost fight started,

Speaker 40 he

Speaker 40 as the tension mounted, he came down to the clubhouse and he put on his uniform

Speaker 40 purely to fight.

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Speaker 40 So now he's standing between Champ Summers and Perez.

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Speaker 40 I'll give you $500 if you can find one person who says they were surprised.

Speaker 40 So this guy's ready. Yeah.

Speaker 40 So now Bob Horner and Champ Summers start fighting. Not only are they two really big hitters and big guys, but it might be the biggest fight between two guys with the most baseball names ever.

Speaker 41 Really?

Speaker 40 Champ Summers and Bob Horner.

Speaker 41 Yeah, right, right. Okay, right, right.

Speaker 40 They are fighting between the dugout and the on-deck circle, and that's when some fans decide they should be involved.

Speaker 41 That's where it's always bad.

Speaker 41 I mean, like, it's obvious, look, you want to get involved. Let it play out.
This is not where you belong. It's like at live shows when people are shouting out jokes.

Speaker 40 Yeah. It's like,

Speaker 40 enough. Yeah, thanks.
One guy threw a beard at Summers, another jumps in and tries to grab Summers from behind, and then another jumps into the fight, and the three of them take Chump

Speaker 40 to the ground.

Speaker 41 But, all right, let's just talk about,

Speaker 41 shouldn't do it, but how great is it when you and two dudes from the stands take down an MLB play and are beating him? You're like, this is beyond fantasy camp.

Speaker 40 It's unbelievable. I'm beating a baseball player up.

Speaker 41 I'm the diamond.

Speaker 40 So this is all really unusual.

Speaker 40 Maybe unprecedented. Like, this is crazy.

Speaker 40 And it's happening a few feet away from the Bat Boys, who are just Bat Boys. Right.
They don't know what to do. The Bat Boys saw fans getting involved, but their job is to keep track of equipment.

Speaker 40 So they are literally focused on what's happening with the equipment while the fight's happening.

Speaker 41 In the sense that they're like, guys, take your gloves off.

Speaker 40 Well, no. Well, like, if

Speaker 40 there's a game on and a bat, a guy hits and the bat goes down, you got to run out and grab the bat so nothing happens to the bat.

Speaker 41 But isn't that, isn't it?

Speaker 40 Don't you abandon your role during a brawl? No, you gotta, that's more so.

Speaker 41 During a brawl, you're still just like more so.

Speaker 40 Guys, toss your mouth guards. Yeah, well, yeah.

Speaker 40 Get your leg guard. Whose bleach are these?

Speaker 40 Quote, it was a challenge for us to try to stay out of the way of what was going on.

Speaker 40 When we had to pick up the stuff and move out of the way, that's when I felt anxiety because it was coming right at us so they're trying to grab

Speaker 41 equipment that's getting like beaten off yeah

Speaker 40 good god

Speaker 40 so guys

Speaker 40 hold on

Speaker 40 it's not like one constant who's cop

Speaker 40 it's not like one constant battle so if you've ever people who've seen baseball fighters yeah it's different separate piles it's separate piles it it starts and it stops it looks like it's calmed and then all of a sudden one guy throws a punch and then it's not.

Speaker 40 And then everything kicks off again. So it's just like.

Speaker 41 Well, I think part of the thing, too, isn't it? The fighting is exhausting.

Speaker 40 Yeah.

Speaker 41 Like, you, I don't think you really, in your head, you're like, let's go. It's like, literally, a minute is like, that was a long, that's a long time.

Speaker 40 Quote, it seemed to go on forever. I do remember being frightened at one time.
I don't know if we were going to get sucked into it. So the Bat Boys are worried that they're going to get have to be.

Speaker 41 I would 100% get involved as a Bat Boy. That's where you become a bat man it's a bat mitzvah

Speaker 40 what do you want me to do with that

Speaker 40 i just think

Speaker 41 i think it's pretty good i i really i will defend it i think it went pretty good

Speaker 40 the padres second baseman tim flannery is fighting the braves gerald perry because he perry had attacked leffords the padres bat boys

Speaker 40 come over to be with the braves bat boys

Speaker 41 that's cute.

Speaker 40 That is cute.

Speaker 41 Have you ever had that? I've had that where I've had a friend of mine fighting, and the two guys fighting wanted to fight, but me and the other friend didn't want our friends to fight.

Speaker 41 So me and the other friend very quickly were like, we're good.

Speaker 41 I wish they weren't doing it too. Like, let's try to remain as impartial through this event as possible.
I've had both.

Speaker 41 I've had the one where you're like, you fuck you too, or the one where you're like, let's go over here.

Speaker 40 Yeah.

Speaker 40 Quote, we were joking. We said, are we supposed to fight with each other? In reality, none of the bad boys wanted to have anything to do with it.

Speaker 40 They were worried that because they were in uniforms, they would be mistaken for a player and have to fight. So their uniforms look almost the exact same.
Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 40 But a Braves bad boy sees a bat in the middle of the field on the grass.

Speaker 40 This is Phil.

Speaker 41 Protocol suggests that I go over there and grab it.

Speaker 40 His bat boy instincts kick in.

Speaker 41 I got to get over there.

Speaker 40 I'll cover you. He runs for it.

Speaker 40 Picks it up, starts running back to the dugout. And now in the middle of grown men

Speaker 40 punching and tackling and body slamming each other, quote, I pick up the bat, I turn around, and I get nailed. I love it.
And it was Alan Wiggins who nailed me. So the guy got hit at the beginning.

Speaker 41 He's just like, you're a small man.

Speaker 40 He just takes out a Batboy.

Speaker 41 Does he know it's a Bat Boy?

Speaker 40 I don't know.

Speaker 41 not i would say i would hope not yeah because it's sort of like they're the press they're like wearing the like press outfit and war it's like don't shoot them but if i just it's also either works for me honestly just to be like when am i gonna get a chance to punch a child again

Speaker 41 or you're just like that that looks like one of the guys

Speaker 40 quote a couple of guys pick me up walk me into the dugout i remember joe tore looking at the security guard and says don't let these guys out of the dugout which i wasn't gonna go.

Speaker 40 I wasn't going to go anywhere anyway.

Speaker 41 The Bat Boys? Yeah.

Speaker 40 Yeah, we're not trying to. Like, I learned my lesson getting that bad.
But who's going to grab that shoe?

Speaker 40 But while they are just Bat Boys, they are considered part of the team. The family.

Speaker 41 Unwritten rules here.

Speaker 40 So that, well, they are. They're like, they're traveling with them and they're with them all the time.
They're joking on the team.

Speaker 41 Do any players have to share a room with the Bat Boys?

Speaker 40 No.

Speaker 41 The Bat Boys travel with the teams?

Speaker 40 I think some did. You can't just be like, we hire local.
No, well, yeah. I mean, back in the day, they don't.
I can't believe I'm sharing a room with a grown athlete. They don't go to bed.

Speaker 40 They don't travel now. What do you want to talk about?

Speaker 41 Do you like constellations?

Speaker 40 What the fuck? I'm dumb as a 17-year-old.

Speaker 40 I care. It's been a while.

Speaker 41 Or I guess, yeah, it would be different. He'd be like, what's fucking like?

Speaker 40 So the players feel protective of and have the backs of the Batboys. Sure.
So

Speaker 40 brave Claudell Washington looks at a bat boy who got clocked and tells him

Speaker 40 he'll take care of it. Quote, and he did.
I'm not going to go on record to how he did that. So Claudell Washington.

Speaker 40 Do we know? We don't know. But he probably went out there and hurt Wiggins or whatever.
Yeah. Yeah, he went out there and fucking worked with him.

Speaker 41 Put a finger in his butt or something.

Speaker 40 Well, that's really not what I was thinking.

Speaker 41 It's disarming.

Speaker 41 In a fight, if a guy's head is taken,

Speaker 40 go for the butt.

Speaker 41 Don't be afraid to toss a digit in the back.

Speaker 40 I feel like you shouldn't be giving fight advice.

Speaker 41 And then hook it.

Speaker 40 Yeah, you should definitely not be giving fight advice.

Speaker 41 What you do is you put it in the butt, you hook it, and you drag.

Speaker 40 Are you trying to...

Speaker 40 Okay.

Speaker 40 Yeah, let's just not talk about that.

Speaker 41 You're telling me

Speaker 41 he's not going to take note?

Speaker 40 I don't know. I don't want to know.
I don't want to have it in front of you.

Speaker 41 It's a bumcus.

Speaker 41 Get back there.

Speaker 40 It could have easily been a mistaken, a case of mistaken identity with Padres Allen Wiggins not realizing realizing he was taking on a bat boy but it didn't matter they had justice had to happen sure it doesn't matter agreed now most bat boys have said are in their late teens but there's also mike borzello who is joe tore's godson okay who's now a coach with the cubs i think he was 13 and see the constellation thing plays

Speaker 40 he was

Speaker 40 13

Speaker 40 and in uniform as an honorary bat boy that day. See?

Speaker 40 He was clearly smaller than the other bat boys, and Torres told Bat Boy Cliff Phillips that he had to keep an eye on Mike for the day. That was before it all this started.

Speaker 41 That's hilarious on that day to be like, he's going to be here today, so just keep an eye on him.

Speaker 40 The man's dead.

Speaker 40 It makes the entire situation far more stressful.

Speaker 40 So Phillips is just more stressed than ever. Yeah.
Quote, I'm not sure how Michael got knocked down, but I remember I got back to the dugout and his uniform is completely muddy.

Speaker 41 Wait, was he the one who he's not the the one who got knocked? Okay, right, right.

Speaker 40 But he comes back and he's just all. But that makes the fight worse because the players are like, who the fuck?

Speaker 41 The Bat Boys are being beaten up. Yeah.

Speaker 40 Dirty Bat Boy uniforms are not the norm, but Bat Boys Don't Getty. Right.

Speaker 41 And that was your first rap album?

Speaker 41 Yeah. Bat Boys Don't Get Dirty.
Okay.

Speaker 40 Yeah. Yeah.
Everybody knows that.

Speaker 41 It was a train wreck.

Speaker 40 Phillips is thinking, why is he so dirty? Because you're never dirty. You don't get that uniform dirty.
The only reason you get the uniform dirty is if you're on the ground.

Speaker 40 I remember both of them were the dirty and I was like, what the heck? No one knows what happened to Mike or how he got dirty.

Speaker 41 I don't watch baseball, but everything that sort of takes place outside of it is better than the game to me.

Speaker 40 Yes.

Speaker 41 Like all the, like everyone's drunk or taking drugs or swapping wives.

Speaker 40 Well, it used to be like that. It's much more.

Speaker 40 Yeah, now

Speaker 41 back in the day, like I would not watch it, but like I would watch a show about baseball.

Speaker 40 It's one of the reasons I find baseball so boring is because it's been so sanitized. All these guys go through media training and all this other

Speaker 40 before they get there. So they're all just give us the psychos.

Speaker 41 Yeah.

Speaker 40 We deserve them. The lunatics are what makes it fun.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 40 Um

Speaker 40 so

Speaker 41 it I can't help I can't help but think that this will stop communism.

Speaker 40 So

Speaker 40 What has happened is one of the craziest ugly things to happen on a baseball diamond. It's really crazy.
It took 12 minutes to settle things down and restart the game.

Speaker 40 And when they did, six more players were ejected and several fans were arrested.

Speaker 40 And then came the ninth inning. Oh, shit.

Speaker 40 Before they start,

Speaker 40 they have to announce over the loudspeakers the players that were kicked out. Uh-huh.
And they, to do that, they had to figure out who they had kicked out.

Speaker 40 So it takes a little bit of time before they restart. Okay.

Speaker 40 Then the game gets started. And the new Braves pitcher is Donnie Moore, and he's facing Podgers hitter Craig Nettles.

Speaker 40 Again, these are two. well, Nettles is like a giant of the game.

Speaker 40 Moore's known for something else. But Moore, it turns out, and Nettles had fought each other on the field in the last inning.

Speaker 40 So no one was going to be shocked if Moore threw it Nettles. And just before the inning started.
Let it go.

Speaker 40 Just before the inning starter, the Braves manager Joe Torrey tells Moore not to pitch inside. He's like, do not throw it this way.

Speaker 41 Let's get out of here.

Speaker 40 We made the point. The point is over.

Speaker 40 Do not stop ninth inning start the car bat boy phillips quote knowing donny moore the way i knew him there was zero doubt that it was going to happen i think everybody was ready well why did he put him in then that is true that is a really good point because first of all they are going no they

Speaker 40 who's winning uh well they're winning the braves are winning okay so he is trying to just competitively close this up yeah and more's a really good pitcher so maybe that's why but also you're right if he was fighting with nettles on the field why are you gonna going to have him go up there?

Speaker 41 Put one guy in for that one and then bring in more after.

Speaker 40 On the second pitch, Moore hits Nettles in the ass.

Speaker 40 Nettles runs out to attack Moore, and the fight starts all over again.

Speaker 41 Jesus Christ, if I either dug out, I'd be like, ah,

Speaker 40 fine.

Speaker 40 Nettles is spun around by Moore, and then he's tackled by Chris Chambliss.

Speaker 40 Then it calms down for a second, and then

Speaker 40 absolutely furious with rage, Chris Nettles. No, sorry, Kurt Bavacqua.
Kurt Bavacqua. That sounds like a cologne.
I remember Kurt Bavacqua for I remember him for two reasons.

Speaker 40 One, being what I'm about to play, but two,

Speaker 40 because

Speaker 40 the name. Bavacqua.
You can just never forget the name.

Speaker 41 Must and dirt mixed together.

Speaker 40 Bavacqua.

Speaker 41 Sometimes my glove will stink, but it smells good to me because it's from my sweat.

Speaker 40 Bavacoa.

Speaker 40 Because he's not

Speaker 40 like a really

Speaker 40 talented player. He's okay.

Speaker 40 But he's

Speaker 40 known because of his name, just like Buddy Biancolana. Bavacqua, a fragrance by MLB.
Do you remember Buddy Biancolana? No.

Speaker 40 The only reason you would know it is because Dave Letterman got obsessed with his name when he was funny in a World Series. No.

Speaker 40 And eventually had him on, even though he was just like a nobody player, that's great.

Speaker 40 So

Speaker 40 Bavacua runs out onto the field.

Speaker 40 So it's kind of calmed down, right?

Speaker 40 And then all of a sudden, here comes

Speaker 40 Buddy.

Speaker 40 Sorry, Kurt Bavakwa. And he is just running out.
He's throwing punches at everybody.

Speaker 40 Now,

Speaker 40 Bavakwa's not a big fan of being hit by pitchers.

Speaker 40 Two years before, when a Dodgers pitcher had thrown at and hit a Padre and then got fined for it, Bavakwa said about the Dodgers' manager, Tommy Lessorda, quote, the guy they should have fined was the guy who ordered him to throw at Joe, that fat little Italian man.

Speaker 41 But

Speaker 41 this is

Speaker 41 sports mafia.

Speaker 41 It's like he took a hit out on him.

Speaker 41 Lasorda's at the top.

Speaker 40 So Lasorda's the fat little Italian man. Yes.
And this is what Lasorda responds with.

Speaker 40 Tell you what I think about it.

Speaker 45 I think that is very, very bad for that man to make an accusation like that. That is terrible.

Speaker 45 I have never, ever, since I've managed, ever told a pitcher to throw at anybody, nor will I ever.

Speaker 45 And if I ever did,

Speaker 45 I certainly wouldn't make him throw at a fucking 130-hitter like LaFay or fucking Bavaqua, who could hit water if he fell out of a fucking boat.

Speaker 45 And I guarantee

Speaker 45 you this, when I pitched and I was going to pitch against a fucking team that had guys on it like Bavaqua, I sent a fucking limousine to get the cocksucker to make sure he was in the motherfucking lineup because I kick that cocksucker's ass any fucking day in a week.

Speaker 45 He's a fucking motherfucking big mouth, I'll tell you that.

Speaker 41 Was that recorded on a blimp?

Speaker 40 That's just what it was like back then, man.

Speaker 41 Dude, that is,

Speaker 41 I mean, that is fucking

Speaker 41 that. That, see, that's what I mean.
Like, that, that is so much more interesting than strike. One.

Speaker 40 No, that's not interesting. Whoa, that was great.
No, it, it, because it's, because you know what it is? Look, yes, it's.

Speaker 41 Bavakwa couldn't hit water if he fell out of a boat is dynamite.

Speaker 40 It's, it's so funny because, you know, wrestling is,

Speaker 40 I, I personally think MLB has been wrestleized, is whatever you want to call it,

Speaker 40 because

Speaker 40 it's now all sort of fakish

Speaker 40 stuff.

Speaker 40 Uh-huh. Uh, it's like, it's like they think up what they're going to do three days ahead of time.
Who does, you mean? The players.

Speaker 41 Like, you know, the thing is that you're not to cut you off, but you're probably hinting at the point of like social media is an independent game.

Speaker 41 And so people do things independently for their social media wins. Whereas you used to almost be like, it used to be like team retaliation.

Speaker 40 It was organic. It was in the moment.
It was, but now you have like a guy, like a guy won't like that someone.

Speaker 40 I think it was a pitcher said he could throw with one eye and get a player out. And then the player hit a home run.
And the player's right over the bases doing this with his finger on one eye.

Speaker 40 And it's just like, okay, man. Like, yeah, hey, cool.
Like, you thought up something three days ago.

Speaker 40 It's just very like

Speaker 40 obvious and sort of stupid and but there's also nothing really to it like it doesn't really

Speaker 40 it seems like you don't care that much i don't know yeah i mean they still do care but it's it's just there's just this level of like surfacey showman stuff that's to me really dumb as opposed to like organic and i think that's what turns me off from it

Speaker 41 yeah there's there's so much sanity i mean obviously look he's fucking tossed around cocksucker a lot out there there's a lot of that uh but uh but there is this like the sanitized nature of stuff now.

Speaker 41 That's what's so funny about watching like the Disneyfication of ESPN and stuff like that, where it's like, there's just not enough stuff to sift through to make a week out of just highlights.

Speaker 41 So you do need some interesting off-the-field shit. And like

Speaker 41 there really isn't that much anymore.

Speaker 40 It's like

Speaker 40 there's some, but like right now, there's a super sports lull because NBA is ended, hockey is ended, most soccer is ended, and they're trying to force new soccer in.

Speaker 40 College baseball is ended, and this is when there really shouldn't be a lot of people. This is a black home, but they're trying to fill space.
They have to.

Speaker 41 And it's just that's where it becomes soap opera. Yeah, that's really like if you, you, I mean, watching ESPN in the morning is, I have not done it in God knows.
You can't do it. Yeah.

Speaker 41 It's all it is is just like,

Speaker 41 you know,

Speaker 41 it's literally insufferable to watch Mike Greenberg host any show now because he's like, why don't you throw which helmet you think is going to finish first in the division at that wall and see if it'll stick with the Velcro wall?

Speaker 41 Because we're talking about the Velcro wall.

Speaker 40 And you're like, what? Well, that's when you can tell that they were trying to.

Speaker 41 spruce it up and they brought in uh they brought in producers from totally dr phil and all those other things because that's a super dr phil the the it's well it's the same with any news shit too when you watch like it's made it's just the dumbest shit where it's just like here's an event you two debate what you think it's like this is not what this is not anything this is two people

Speaker 41 just trying to have an argument which is arguing was at one point entertaining yeah you can't make an argument about everything right it's the same when you watch like social media clips of people being like wait what it's like you're not gonna be able to wait what you're it's at some point it's not gonna work anymore.

Speaker 41 Yeah, I don't know when we're gonna hit that wall, but at some point, you're not gonna be able to be like, like, I know you shit all over crowd work and crowd work,

Speaker 41 but if I'm like, I will wait for like an actual thing that's interesting to happen,

Speaker 41 you watch it, it's just like you wear sneakers,

Speaker 41 and you're just like, Yeah,

Speaker 40 what?

Speaker 41 Yeah, it's a normal thing,

Speaker 41 you two been getting for five years.

Speaker 40 Okay, so um

Speaker 40 so the VACWA again bodies tackling throwing chasing hitting um the players who had been ejected

Speaker 40 now run back out that's not allowed that's super normal you're an Arkham uh they get order restored briefly but then

Speaker 40 you are re-ejected But then goose gossage comes out and attacks more and the whole fight kicks off again.

Speaker 40 Now, Padre's Tim Flannery gets sucker punched by Perry. Remember they had been fighting earlier.

Speaker 40 It doesn't go on as long as the eighth inning fight, but now fans are getting even more involved. So this is before they started limiting beer.

Speaker 40 Now

Speaker 40 they shut down beers in the seventh inning, but back then it just kept flowing. And you could get a beer up until the game ended.
Better time.

Speaker 40 And if they went into extra innings, they would reopen everything up again.

Speaker 41 They should do that.

Speaker 40 I agree.

Speaker 40 But a lot of people went to games specifically to just get shit fixed. Yes.
It wasn't crazy.

Speaker 40 It was a normal beer price.

Speaker 41 It was really just a reason to go eat like shit. And there was something else going on in the background.
Yeah.

Speaker 40 Yeah.

Speaker 41 But it was just like you and your friends could get drunk and order food from a guy walking by.

Speaker 40 So it's the ninth inning.

Speaker 40 A lot of people are really drunk. Right.

Speaker 40 So fans above the Padres

Speaker 40 dugout start getting into shouting matches with the Padres players. And then one of them threw a beer at the Padres.

Speaker 40 Quote, a fan threw a beer on Champ Summers and Champ became unglued. He tried to go over the top of the dugout to go after this fan, but he was restrained.

Speaker 40 Now a furious Kurt Bavacua also loses his shit and goes after a fan. But cops were by the dugout and they stopped him and they end up restraining Bavacqua on top of the dugout.

Speaker 41 Wow.

Speaker 41 It got dugout arrest.

Speaker 40 Ed Wilson, a pottery pitcher who started it, was now in the dugout shirtless.

Speaker 40 Jesus Christ.

Speaker 40 I said Wilson, right? It's not, it's, what's his name? The uh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, he's got his shirt off, so he did.

Speaker 41 That was a choice.

Speaker 40 I think, I think it got ripped off. It got ripped off.
I think it got ripped off. Now that's hot.
Um,

Speaker 40 and I recommend anybody go online and um just put in Padres,

Speaker 40 Braves, Fight, 1984, and look at the pictures.

Speaker 40 And it's the

Speaker 40 pictures of Ed, who we're talking about, are he's the crazy guy in the dugout. So I'll show you this picture right here, Gareth.

Speaker 40 That's Ed in the dugout.

Speaker 40 Oh, my God. Does he look like a guy who just got in a meth fight outside of a bar? Well, yes, completely.

Speaker 40 Yeah.

Speaker 41 Looks like he just got to like just got divorced and got to to fight the guy that stole his wife.

Speaker 41 Wow, this brawl is nuts.

Speaker 40 Yeah.

Speaker 40 So

Speaker 40 he looks insane. So Ed also.
His eyes,

Speaker 41 it looks like blinking hasn't happened in a long time.

Speaker 40 A long time. And it's not going to happen for a long time.
No, no. It looks like his eyelids have been taken.
Yeah, blinking's out of the picture.

Speaker 40 So he's shirtless. He also had to be restrained as he wanted to attack both the fans and the braves.
A Bat Boy, quote, I remember the look in Ed Witson's eyes. It was a look that I went, oh shit.

Speaker 40 And I didn't want to see Ed like that ever.

Speaker 41 That's the guy we just looked at.

Speaker 40 Yeah. Wow.
Down the left field line, a fan ran onto the field and tried to steal a batting helmet. All right.
So this guy is like, this is a good time to try to do that.

Speaker 41 I guess, but the bat, remember that now you're trouncing on Bat Boy territory. That's equipment.
That's right.

Speaker 40 Bat Boy, quote, Braves infielder Jerry Royster just just kind of tackles him, throws him back on the ground, kicks him in the butt, and says, get the hell off the field.

Speaker 41 He handled that pretty well.

Speaker 41 He could have beaten him with the helmet.

Speaker 40 The delay of this fight lasts 15 minutes. Jesus Christ.

Speaker 40 So now the umpires have to figure this out.

Speaker 41 Does the fight stop because they're kind of tuckering themselves out?

Speaker 40 A little bit, yeah. But also.

Speaker 41 There's what, four umpires? I mean, there's not enough of them to undo that.

Speaker 40 But there's other players stopping it. There are players who are

Speaker 40 going to stop the fight. Yeah.
No.

Speaker 40 I don't know if there's much security.

Speaker 40 But also, if you get the hotheads

Speaker 40 out of it.

Speaker 40 Because it's always one guy running in, like Pavakra or Summers or whatever. There's always a few guys that are just out of their minds.
Right.

Speaker 41 Take the fuses out.

Speaker 40 So the umpires do what no one's ever heard of. They order both teams' benches.
So the guys who aren't playing in the field into the clubhouse for the rest of the game.

Speaker 41 They order, okay.

Speaker 40 Interesting. So the dugouts are empty.
Right.

Speaker 40 So now it's just the players on the field, a couple of Batboys and some bullpen guys that remain.

Speaker 41 Starting to get kind of weird.

Speaker 40 Bat Boy Phillips said this was a very smart decision and probably stopped it from getting really bad.

Speaker 40 Good God. How funny, it's already bad.
It's horrible. Quote, it could have been worse than it was.
I've got to be honest, it could have been worse.

Speaker 40 At least in my dugout, there were a lot of really ticked-off guys.

Speaker 40 The Pottery scored two runs in the ninth, but the Braves win.

Speaker 40 Keeps going. Keeps going.
What are they going to do? They have to play it.

Speaker 40 The Potteries, although they could have just stopped it, so that's it.

Speaker 41 1.45 a.m., bottom of the ninth.

Speaker 40 A man is dead.

Speaker 41 About six people are dead. There's a bird that's passed away.
Four fires. And what looks like a sinkhole is opened in deep right field.
We got to get out of here. My son starts school in four hours.

Speaker 40 Wait, your son starts school at 5.45?

Speaker 41 No, because I'm in a different city, and I got to go back to where I'm from.

Speaker 40 You're forgetting the time difference. What are you here to poke holes?

Speaker 41 Let's just finish this fucker, huh?

Speaker 40 The Braves win 5-3, and after the game, all the shit talking started. Both teams blamed each other for starting it, and they all expected it to continue when they met again the next month.

Speaker 40 Joe Torrey, Braves manager, quote, Dick Williams is an idiot. Spell that with a capital I and a small W.

Speaker 40 Dick Williams. Tell Joe Torrey to stick that finger he's pointing.
Williams also, quote, there's not enough mustard in the state of Georgia to cover Perez.

Speaker 40 Perez, quote, I'm no hot dog.

Speaker 41 Just keep it to fighting. The shit talk is.

Speaker 40 How is he a hot dog? He just actually hit a guy. He's not a hot dog.

Speaker 41 Well, I'm still caught up on idiot with a capital I I and a capital W. Idiot?

Speaker 40 Or his last name? No, so

Speaker 40 his name, he's saying his name would be Idiot Williams, but

Speaker 40 he's a little man. You don't capitalize the W.

Speaker 40 It's just

Speaker 40 it took a lot.

Speaker 41 That's like when I would read Shakespeare and be like, what is he saying?

Speaker 40 Yeah, but it's like, you want to be Joe. That's a little sweaty.
You don't want a different. It's a little much.
Although sweaty now.

Speaker 41 Here, I'm Joe Torrey. Ready? Yeah.
All right, ask for a quote on him.

Speaker 40 You have a quote on that? Yeah, he's an idiot.

Speaker 41 Fuck that guy. We're going to beat the shit out of him if he's not careful.
Boom, done.

Speaker 40 How do you spell his his name, though?

Speaker 41 I-D-I-O-T-W, small W-I-L-L.

Speaker 41 I'm no hot dog.

Speaker 40 What I was thinking was sweaty meant you were trying too hard to do something, and now it means the opposite with kids. So Mike W like, that was sweaty, but it means like it was awesome as opposed to.

Speaker 40 This is tough. Yeah, it's not good.

Speaker 41 Can't hang out with this. That's some skibbity toilet shit.

Speaker 40 Player Jerry Royster quote, too much too much went on for it to be over. We're looking for it.

Speaker 40 Player Bobby Brown quote, stay tuned for round two. There was concern this fight would have an impact on the entire league.

Speaker 40 And after the game, the umpire talked on the phone to the league office for a long time, and he told them, quote, this has put baseball back 50 years.

Speaker 40 So the fight is nationwide news.

Speaker 40 ABC's Nightline does, which is a late night show that's on opposite Letterman and the tonight show, they do a long story on it, but nothing changed.

Speaker 40 The Braves would show clips to every team that came to Atlanta to play because they all wanted to see it. Because there wasn't video on the news that

Speaker 40 they had all the

Speaker 40 stadium clips.

Speaker 41 Wait, so they, if they're doing reporting on it, it's just pictures only.

Speaker 40 I think there is some video, but

Speaker 40 they had the cameras of the field that they used.

Speaker 41 Right, right. Yeah.
Wow.

Speaker 40 But something surprising happened or didn't happen.

Speaker 40 There was no fight when the teams met six weeks later enough time had gone by for things to simmer down and maybe all the media attention made them feel that like they look like fucking idiots right i would imagine like you go home and your wife's like what the fuck were you doing he hit me in the buttock yeah everyone's getting like the moms are calling and going what what is happening with you i'm sorry um the padres had clinched the division so there was nothing to play for okay

Speaker 40 And the two managers spoke and made up. Oh, that's cute.
Prez even pitched and got a win in the rematch. So he fucking pitched in the rematch.
That's wild.

Speaker 41 That's a wild decision.

Speaker 40 That's really crazy because he doesn't have to pitch.

Speaker 40 It's

Speaker 40 depending on how many games he was trying to win or whatever. That's a wild decision.
They could have just held him out.

Speaker 40 But people still talk about the fight today. It's way up on the list of worst sports fights ever, if not the top one.

Speaker 41 Can we see highlights of it now?

Speaker 40 Oh, yeah, I think you can find some highlights of it. Yeah.
It's not like it was a common thing. One of the Batboys who played through high school said, quote, I've never seen anything like this ever.

Speaker 40 Now, a lot of these guys are famous baseball players. Joe Torrey would go on to win

Speaker 40 any World Series as a Yankees manager. Goose Gossage is considered an all-time reliever.
Bob Horner is a Braves legend.

Speaker 40 Donnie Moore gave up one of the most legendary playoff home runs in history and then soon after shot his wife, who survived, but then he killed himself.

Speaker 40 A lot of people think he committed suicide because Angel fans were so mean to him after giving up the home run, but in truth, he was just fucked up. And then Dave Dravecki famously

Speaker 40 was throwing a pitch his arm cracked and he found out he had cancer. Ah, and then he got cured of can't did he have his arm cut off? Ah, did he have one arm cut off?

Speaker 40 But he he he came back and then it broke again.

Speaker 40 So anyway,

Speaker 40 and Eric Sho

Speaker 40 became a fame. So Eric Sho, the main John Bircher loudmouth guy, would

Speaker 40 be revealed to be just a massive drug addict.

Speaker 41 Was he able to, did he eradicate the world of communism?

Speaker 40 He didn't. What he did was eradicate himself.

Speaker 41 I gotta say, this umpire in this brawl is big-boned.

Speaker 41 Watching this umpire get involved in this is crazy. Yeah.

Speaker 41 This is crazy. You can watch it on YouTube.

Speaker 41 It's kind of like it, like to what you were saying, it's like

Speaker 41 it's so sloppy because it is not like everyone wants to be involved. A lot of people are trying to sort of stop it.

Speaker 40 Yes.

Speaker 41 But there's still some hotheads.

Speaker 40 There's always guys trying to stop it.

Speaker 41 It's really just male culture. There's just like a number of ones where you're not going to be able to do it.

Speaker 40 Most dudes are like, what are you doing? Yeah,

Speaker 41 most of us are trying to be like, please no.

Speaker 40 And then there's like a few dudes outside trying to swing punches and you're like, Frank. Yeah.
Jesus, dude. This again?

Speaker 41 Yeah. There's just definitely.

Speaker 40 I think the difference in this.

Speaker 41 The guy running from out of nowhere.

Speaker 41 to try to get in the dugout and then when the fan throws the beer at his head there's a woman getting knocked down over there.

Speaker 40 I mean, it's a bad fight.

Speaker 40 The difference between this fight and other fights is I think that more dudes wanted to fight. Right.
Because I very specifically, in my memories,

Speaker 40 have these pictures of certain players doing certain things. Like I remember when the Dodgers got into a fight and there was like that pile and it didn't seem that bad.

Speaker 40 And all of a sudden, Gary Sheffield runs from out of right field and just jumps in the pile, just fucking hitting people. And then it kicks off.

Speaker 40 And you're like, right, that guy was out of his fucking mind.

Speaker 41 Yeah, that's kind of what is happening here. It's a lot of time to try to figure it out.

Speaker 40 Jesus Christ.

Speaker 41 The outfits are awesome.

Speaker 40 Baseball fights are when they're real fights,

Speaker 40 they're really insane.

Speaker 41 Dude, it keeps traveling to like different zones. It's like

Speaker 41 it kind of ends over in one area, and then one guy's like, woo!

Speaker 40 Yeah,

Speaker 40 yeah, they just, they just move. So, where is it?

Speaker 41 Where where does this, is this the worst baseball fight on the field?

Speaker 40 That's considered the worst. I still kind of think the Giants Cardinals

Speaker 40 was

Speaker 40 because they fought more than once over a couple years.

Speaker 41 So it's a spanner.

Speaker 40 The last fight was like nothing I had ever seen. It went on for a long time.
And one pitcher had like broken ribs and a broken arm. And like it was.

Speaker 40 Like it was, it was guys, I remember very specifically, guys getting knocked down and other guys jumping on top of them with their cleats.

Speaker 41 You know what's kind of funny about baseball fights, too, is that while they are athletes, the conditioning level for baseball athletes in the 80s, say, is way lower than other sports.

Speaker 41 And so these guys are gassed.

Speaker 41 This is like the biggest cardio workout some of these men have had in their lives.

Speaker 40 Yeah, they're not doing a lot of cardio stuff.

Speaker 41 There's not a lot of, oh boy, that pitch in the elbow filled.

Speaker 40 They're doing a lot of

Speaker 40 hitting and throwing.

Speaker 41 Hitting, throwing, but there's like

Speaker 41 they're chubby. Yeah, there's a lot of chubby.
These guys are chubby and

Speaker 41 they're gassed.

Speaker 40 Yeah, I mean, there's a reason there's pictures of them smoking in the dugout and shit, like, because they just partied and hung out and drank and then played baseball. It's kind of better.

Speaker 40 It is better. You know what? I got to say, like, watching Finn go through the process.

Speaker 40 of playing travel ball and stuff, it's just all so individualized.

Speaker 40 There's no team sort of camaraderie, maybe at the high school school level, but so many of the high school level coaches are just such pieces of shit that it's all just such a fucking mess.

Speaker 40 And then you're trying to survive on your own and try to become good on your own without your coach destroying it. And it's just all completely individualized.

Speaker 40 So I think they grew up in a time when it wasn't individualized and it was truly a team sport. And now I think it's not as much of a team sport.

Speaker 40 Yeah.

Speaker 41 It is.

Speaker 41 There's so much. Like, yeah, we are just so selfish now.
So

Speaker 41 it's pretty reflective of society.

Speaker 40 But like, they also, like, it's now a sport where you have to work out. Like,

Speaker 40 Finn is like. Yeah, he's jacked.
He's jacked. And, and it's, and not a lot of his teammates are, but if you want to go on to the next level, you got to be jacked.
Yeah.

Speaker 40 And he wants to play the next level. So

Speaker 40 so these, the kids who really want to get better are all jacked. And then there's kids on his team that just look like regular like 16 year olds or like scrawny and like

Speaker 40 yeah, they hang out with my buddy. yeah they look like fun yeah yeah yeah um but yeah no and now if you see a if you see any college guys like

Speaker 40 i mean i went and saw the top to the top 25 programs vanderbilt and ucilia play and i was just like i mean these guys yeah these guys are like physical specimens and they're just in college but it's always funny when you go to like watch sports versus like on the tv yeah because you'll go you'll like watch on the tv and be like this guy's fat yeah and then you go to the game you're like these are illegal monsters

Speaker 41 a commercial once for the UFL, which I think is now not a thing any longer. But so it was like, you know, players who weren't good enough for the NFL, they were playing in a secondary league.

Speaker 41 And I mean, it was shocking. Yeah.
Shocking. Yeah.
I was like, how the fuck, how can these guys not be in the NFL?

Speaker 40 Dude, the baseball players that you see that are like in like Division III school, you're just like, what? Like, that guy's like a monster. I know.

Speaker 40 Yeah, it's crazy. It's crazy.

Speaker 40 But all the kids now are really fucked up from from you,

Speaker 40 from

Speaker 40 TikTok and working out and getting muscles. The boys, really.
What do you mean?

Speaker 40 They've all become like

Speaker 40 influenced into just not all of them, but a lot of them, just like into like

Speaker 40 really working out and being like, you know, this like

Speaker 40 muscled chiseled dude.

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Speaker 41 And I'll do the sources. The sources for this episode were big, big fight bang.

Speaker 41 It was, this is from the sporting news.

Speaker 41 I read a lot of articles on that for this one. The August 12th, 1984, How Some Braves, Bat Boys Played an Unwitting Role in the Wildest Brawl Ever.
That was a big part of my source search here.

Speaker 40 That was by John Foster, right?

Speaker 41 That was by John Foster.

Speaker 40 I was that one. That's how I know.

Speaker 41 Who's a hell of a guy?

Speaker 41 Then another one of my sources for this was, wow, what a strike. Then I also went on the ringer.
I love the ringer, remembering baseball's right-wing rotation.

Speaker 41 So that's where you're going to get your birch fix.

Speaker 41 Also,

Speaker 41 a big article by Ryan Curtis.

Speaker 40 Right, that's the same article, but right now.

Speaker 41 Same article as the one I was saying before.

Speaker 41 But we'd do that one, and that was a big one for me.

Speaker 40 And then you got stuff from YouTube also.

Speaker 41 And then I did a lot of YouTube stuff and a lot of U porn stuff. I did a lot of U porn for this one.
I don't know if you need to. No, I did.
I did a lot of U porn stuff.

Speaker 40 Like what? What are some of the titles?

Speaker 41 Titles of the U porn stuff. Yeah.

Speaker 41 That's not a bit. That was one of them.

Speaker 41 And then ball grabs.

Speaker 41 I did a lot of.

Speaker 40 Why is that's not a bear in Australian?

Speaker 41 Not a

Speaker 41 bat have an Australian accent?

Speaker 40 I thought you said bear. No.
Oh. No.
That's not a bat. Why is it Australian?

Speaker 41 Because it's this guy, Crocodile Dundee.

Speaker 41 He's really good.

Speaker 40 I wish I had an ass. You know, when you do that and you wish I hadn't asked, he's really good.

Speaker 41 And anyway,

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