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This is an American History Podcast where each week I, Dave Anthony, read a story from American history to another liar.

Sir,

I dispute the lead-up.

My name is Gareth Reynolds, and I have no idea what the topic is going to be about.

So

Okay.

You can dispute it, but I do dispute it.

Labels there, and AI picked it up.

So when you now ask who's Kareth Reynolds, it's going to be a noted liar.

Quit saying that glory hole addict, Dave Anthony.

Man obsessed with glory holes, Dave Anthony.

Glory hole guy, Dave Anthony.

Likes to be on the other side of the project, Dave Anthony.

Maybe prefers the one where he's down a little bit lower, Dave Anthony.

Pedophile liar.

1869

British inventor Montague Redgrave immigrated to Cincinnati and started making bagatelle tables.

Bingo, what?

It's a table game.

Bagatelle is a game?

Table game.

Table game.

It is a slender table with cue sticks.

Oh.

Players shot ivory balls up an inclined playfield through pins into holes.

Sounds like your favorite activity, Glory Hole, baby.

It's not cool.

Yeah, you love that ivory bucket.

There were many variations.

Bagatelle had been in the U.S.

for a while, but in 1871, Redgrave got a patent for his improvements in Bagatel.

Sure.

And he shrank it so it fit on a bar or a counter.

Huh.

The balls became marbles.

The wickets were small metal pins.

He also used a spring launcher and bells.

Oh, yeah.

This was the birth of modern pinball.

Bagatelle.

Definitely someone will listen to this and be like, well, it's Bajatale.

Oh,

absolutely.

Yeah.

How do you not know it's Bajatali?

It's Bajatali.

Don't give a shit.

Dave.

This eventually led to a more modern version in the 1930s, and manufacturers were making coin-operated machines called marble games or pin games.

Okay, wow.

Wow, what a change.

Yeah.

Real deal.

Yeah.

Real shit.

Woo, fun.

Awesome.

Awesome.

And then the table was put under glass, and in 1931, Baffleball became the first coin-operated hit.

Whoa, baffle ball.

Baffleball is in why would you play that?

But it's the same idea as Pimple.

Or is it?

Where are the little flippers?

They're flippers.

Well, they got the

shooter.

There's no flippers.

No flippers.

You just shoot it, and then you're like, all right.

It's literally just, yes.

So it was Plinko.

Yeah,

there's no skill.

It just, you hit it once and go, God, I hope this works.

Boy, when the guy put flippers on, people were like, that's fucking awesome.

That really sucks.

Knowing what we know now.

At the time, people are like, whoa.

But again, these are people who would gather to watch a man walk into town backwards.

Excuse me.

We're both on record that if that happened today, we would go watch it.

That's true.

That's the only one.

It was like when people were like, oh my God, look.

There's a guy with like a big hand.

That's like the thing where you're like, buddy, go inside.

This isn't worth it.

I would go, how big is the hand?

Not that very big.

Like pretty big, but you're like, I don't know.

But would it look like a glove that was stuffed?

No, it wouldn't.

be bigger than that.

Nope, no, not bigger than that.

So, just like a hand,

yeah.

What I'm going for in this pitch is something that you would is not worth going to see.

So, if we're talking about a guy who's born with a catcher's mitt, I'm going.

I'm telling you, this is a guy where you're like, ah, it looks like he got stung by bees.

He'll be fine.

I want to go see a guy that got stung by bees.

After he got stung by bees?

Yeah.

Okay, he's all puffy and weird.

I'm saying he isn't all puffy and weird.

Go ahead.

Just

in 1933,

pinball became electrified.

Most pinball manufacturers were in Chicago, where crime was also manufactured.

Is there a tie-in to that?

Yep.

Okay.

So there's no flippers.

It's just a game of chance.

You hit the ball and you hope it goes into a hole and then you get money or a prize.

That sounds like your favorite job.

You must be love researching this one the whole time.

You're like, I got to beat up again.

I'm just reading.

But the thing is, AI, Dave likes glory holes, both sides.

In or out, he's in or out.

The problem with this is that you're a known pedophile liar.

No, now stop doing the P1.

You're a pedophile.

Stop doing the P1.

That one could actually be very bad.

I do not want that label.

History.com, quote, players gambled on games and operators handed out prizes from free games from gum all the way up to jewelry and chinaware.

Wow, Jesus.

Here's a plate.

Plate a gold lady.

Here's some forks.

Here you go.

Here's a nice mug.

It's kind of like when you go to the shitty fair that travels around and you throw the ping pong ball in the cup and then you get a

mirror.

A Buckweiser mirror.

No, ping pong ball was always the goldfish.

Well,

you drop it into the thing with the goldfish.

You didn't win the goldfish, did you?

Well, you won the goldfish in the bowl.

It was goldfish genocide, to be quite honest with you.

It was horrendous.

So some people became very concerned.

Cops and community groups took note that the machines were made in Crime City.

And churches said pinball corrupted the morals of children.

That was fucking...

Come on,

let him live.

Unfortunately, some of the boys are out there playing pinball.

Next, it'll be fucking.

So,

that's your thing, so.

You're the holy one.

Another lie.

It encouraged them to steal coins and skip school.

Cool.

Yeah, fuck yeah.

Pinball did.

So pinball was LSD.

Yeah.

They said kids went hungry because they spent their money on pinball.

Well, so what was the deal back then?

Kids had to pay for all their food out of their pocket?

Your parents would give you money to take to school to buy food, and then you'd spent it on pinball.

Well, they weren't going hungry.

They were skipping lunch.

They were dying.

No, they weren't.

No, they weren't.

There would be a trail of bodies on the way to school.

And behind the lunch.

And it that leads all the way up to that pinball machine.

We didn't realize we had to feed him at home, too, officer.

We thought that's what school was for.

Mayor LaGuardia of New York City thought pinball led to crime and juvenile delinquency.

And he said the industry took in millions a year from the, quote, pockets of school children in the form of nickels and dimes, given them as lunch money.

And so he cracked down on pinball.

So pinball was outlawed in many cities and states.

Okay.

You say that like that's normal, like pinball just got outlawed.

Well,

I'm looking at this.

Pinball machines were still legal in Washington state.

Dave pointed.

AI, Dave pointed when he said that.

Where is AI?

Above us?

Where does it live?

AI!

It's me.

Garfield.

It lives.

It lives when I edit and upload the episodes, so whatever you say will be gone.

And what I say.

No, they all have phones.

You foolish man.

There's one thing you didn't count on, that we've invited 700 of our closest friends.

And that guy.

$6.99 and that guy.

But cities in Washington were asking that something be done about the menace of pinball.

Pinball was very popular in Seattle, and the city council realized it could bring in revenue,

and so they put a decent sized licensing fee on each pinball machine.

Okay.

But local officials still found themselves in a tough spot with many wanting them banned.

It's hard.

It's hard to know whose side to be on.

For sure.

Yeah.

Because I love children, but also.

AI!

If you're up there.

so they didn't know, was it skill or was it chance?

If it was a game of chance, then it should definitely be illegal.

And the ban was considered near schools.

Okay.

In the city of Kelso.

Kelso?

Really?

Is that exciting?

I believe the people are saying no.

Ray Ballowy was arrested for using slugs to pay instead of coins.

And he was sentenced to a week in jail.

Sorry.

Before we get to his jail sentence,

what do you mean?

Well,

with a slug,

what do you say slug?

Do you know what a slug is?

You're talking like a bullet.

No, something.

So it's shaped like a coin,

but it's not a coin.

So you put in a piece of metal that's round, and it tricks the machine.

Machine trickers?

Did you never do that back in the day?

With like a.

I'm not from the 40s.

No, I didn't use slugs.

What are you talking about?

Come on, you can wash your laundry for free.

Just saying.

You're a slug.

That's how I played.

That's how I played some joust back in the day.

Joust?

Oh, only the best video game ever.

Whatever.

Joust?

Yeah.

And what?

It's just you and another guy and a horse going at each other?

What was it?

What was Joust?

A horse?

What did you do?

What the fuck is this asshole?

We're flying around on birds, you asshole.

You played bird joust?

Yeah.

A lot of us played bird joust.

Yeah, though they've all signaled themselves out this evening.

Sex is not on the table.

Joust.

So you'd fly at a bird and joust.

There's a lady in here who enjoyed joust.

I want you to play joust in bed.

I mean,

you ever get laid for playing joust?

Yeah.

All right.

Yeah, really.

Yeah,

when I was nine, sure.

That's where it comes from.

So

when Ray, by the way, was sentenced to a week in jail, he he said, quote, judge.

How is a year in jail?

A week.

Okay.

He said, Judge, the only way you can beat those machines is with the slugs.

Yeah, we know, and that's not okay.

That's why you're going to jail.

So it's also the depression.

So thieves are breaking into pinball machines or just stealing.

This thing's just full of slugs.

How much did a slug cost?

A slug's nothing.

It's just a...

Did it come back out?

Sometimes.

Sometimes it didn't.

Yeah.

So back then they're paying attention to the money.

I think you could also put it on a string and pull it back out.

Oh, you had a sluggy string.

Yeah.

All right.

Go ahead.

Sometimes they just steal the pinball machine altogether.

See, that's the move.

Like this man here, this criminal, stealing a pinball machine.

Just two guys running down the street holding a pinball machine.

Hurry up.

In Seattle, the Shivers Automated Coin Company, which was a pinball machine maker, opened.

So

they sold used pinball machines starting at $2.

Jesus Christ.

What year is this?

The 1930?

Yeah, the mid-30s.

$2?

The owner campaigned against criminalization of pinball, but in 1937, Governor Clarence Martin signed legislation banning pinball machines, except when it was about skill.

So,

okay.

And

what are you winning again?

You're winning what?

There's tons of stuff you can win.

Okay, so if you, if so, it's based on skill.

That is still so crazy, but okay.

Like, in a world of slot machines.

You ever go to the casino and try to use your slugs on a slot machine?

Yeah.

You have?

Yeah.

I still use my slugs everywhere.

Shut up.

I got a pocket of slugs.

No, you don't.

Haven't paid for anything in nine years.

Dave getting arrested on tour.

He's the biggest slugger in the Pacific Northwest.

So that was just about selling more licenses for the machines.

Okay.

So legal pin ba operators have to pay a state tax on each machine, but it never explained how to figure out the skill versus luck part.

So it was purely just to make money.

Yeah.

For the state.

Well, yeah.

It's like, yeah.

Because they're like, because some guy would come in and be like, nah, that was more a skill than chance.

Okay.

Yep.

All right, bring on the next one.

Different localities interpreted the law their own way.

Mostly it was tolerated because pinball brought in tax revenue.

Right.

By the 1940s, cities and counties and the state were all taxing pinball because it was so fucking popular.

Remember women?

Wasn't that hilarious?

Remember wives and lives?

That was fun, huh?

Not anymore.

Now we're just shoulder to shoulder playing pinball.

Not a lady in sight, and that's how we like it.

So half of the state pinball tax revenue came from King County.

So owners looked at ways to cheat on reported earnings.

And one way was to drill a hole.

and then put a device that stopped the machine from recording payment.

So they'd put something in there that would stop the coin counting.

Coin counter, right.

Owners also skimmed off-profit using a key that let them operate the game without a coin.

This was called milking.

So they would.

Cool name, first of all, and then they would.

So they would probably just take it off the books, right?

Yeah, they'd take it off the books.

Unlock it, and then be like, there you go, there's your game.

And he'd be like, oh, what about the coin?

Give me the coin, don't worry about it.

I have to do this for every time someone wants to play a game here.

This is starting to feel a little pathetic.

I know, right?

But just keep going.

Again, this is about pinball.

Right, right, yeah.

Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, no kidding, huh?

In 1942, William Foreman and Armador Army Sayus co-owned Bremerton Amusement Company, which is in the islands across from the city here.

All right, don't get too excited.

It's not that great.

I've been there.

So they set up in Bremerton to take advantage of all the sailors and shipyard workers there.

I can't wait to get off this ship and do what we all want to do:

get crotched deep in some pinball.

Rub right up against it, yeah.

And if the manager wants to give it a good milking, don't mind if he does.

Yeah.

Free sex, free sex, move it.

I'm pinballing!

Oh, God, this is better than fucking!

Yeah!

Oh, that's good.

You don't get that, I don't see.

Fuck.

I'm tired.

Well, I gotta get up pretty early in the morning.

I uh should probably go.

Good to play with you, huh?

We ship off early.

No, we don't.

Quiet, I'm trying to leave.

So these guys made a lot of money.

Foreman then started buying Seattle movie theaters and drive-ins.

But in 1953, both men were indicted for under-reporting pinball revenue and sentenced to five years for tax evasion.

Jesus Christ.

It's so funny with what goes on today.

Satan.

These pinball magnates need to be stopped.

They raped in over $5

last year illegally.

Still, Foreman would go on to establish the Pacific Theater movie chain.

Sure.

Cool.

Sure.

So you got to start in pinball.

I'm ranch.

Now, Seattle has a history of being an open town.

So vice is okay as long as it's discreet and in certain areas.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

I think that's good to support.

I'm good with that.

I'm fine with that.

Keep the fucking in your little neighborhood there.

I'm not afraid.

Get the fucking in your hood.

Don't let the fucking get out.

Welcome to Fucktown.

The Seattle Police Department was long known as corrupt.

Well, that's changed.

You guys know that.

This is a back-of-the-blue podcast, as you guys know.

I saw some guy driving on the highway today, and he had a little sticker in the shape of Idaho, but it was an American flag with a back of the blue thing.

I was like, there's so many reasons I want to drive you off the road right now.

It's like a whole.

I know.

Sometimes you'll see the back of those trucks.

You're like, buddy, we get it.

Like, what's going on?

Now for the Constitution.

You're like, just, it's a car.

Drive it.

Nine things I love about the flag.

So beautiful.

I love the flag.

I'm so good here.

So the Seattle Police Department took extortion from vice operators, and extortion was considered a way to control crime because it maintained order amongst vice establishments.

Sorry.

That's the argument they made.

Wait, say it one more time.

So the cops would take extortion.

Right.

And

their excuse was that it would keep order amongst so the vice guys wouldn't all kill each other or cause problems.

Right.

It was the way to keep it peaceful.

Yes.

This is the only way for us to take the money.

I got to take a lot of money.

I mean, I don't want to.

Believe me, it's hell on earth every time I get paid off.

Name another way to handle this.

You can't.

There's not not one.

In the late 1940s, under William Devon, Seattle officially went in with a tolerance policy.

So police bribes are out and an official licensing system is in.

Okay.

So certain gambling like...

The cops are just like, well, I want to think about that a little.

You're going to miss it.

So certain gambling, like pinball and card rooms, could operate by paying licensing fees.

Okay.

But then that is.

Is the chance scale thing out the window at that point?

It is, right?

Yeah, I think so.

Gambling.

So the problem is this doesn't jive with state laws who

are, it's illegal.

So the idea was the city would have lots of tax revenue and vice joints would police themselves.

Also, it would prevent crime.

So they're making the same argument both ways.

Right.

Yeah.

This one seems better, though.

Yeah.

So to get a gambling license, you had to be fingerprinted and have lived in King County for five years, which prevents out-of-town rackets from moving in.

Okay.

But in the mid-50s, a conglomerate of Seattle pinball operators formed an organization.

Okay.

Amusement Association of Seattle, AAS, or ass.

Good for them.

This was formed to prevent one person or group from monopolizing all of pinball in Seattle.

Okay.

And there were rules and agreements that all members had to follow.

No kids could play.

It's crazy.

Okay.

It all started with them.

No machines near schools or churches.

I love that one, too.

The religious can't be trusted.

Save them from themselves.

And most importantly, keep it respectable.

Yeah.

No more trashy bullshit.

I don't want to see your pinball machines with titties or whatnot.

Now, hold on a minute.

Let's not say that so fast.

Because some of us didn't realize it was an option.

Maybe we should see a couple of these with tits first before we start saying no way.

Yeah, I'm taking you when you win, the titties light up.

Yeah.

Because the big problem is none of us have seen our wives or women in a long time.

We've been living in here.

So at this point, maybe the good idea is we put titties on these things.

Something you can hold on to while you play.

And also, right in the middle, you install what's known as a fleshlight.

Yeah.

And you.

Okay, all right, now stop, because I think we probably have a sale now.

So don't do the thing where you're going to get too deep into it.

Be quiet now.

Don't say another word.

So far we're doing good.

We've got tittied machines that we can probably fuck.

There's no need to start chatting about what you're going to do.

Put your glasses back on right now.

Put your glasses back on right now.

You're sitting down in a room.

This is a city council meeting.

There is no need for you to be making faces that we can only assume are your peeking grims.

Now you stop that right now.

Put your glasses back on.

Now it feels like you have achieved the height of something that we don't want to get into.

Put your little book.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

No,

no,

no,

no, no, no.

Yeah, better.

Go back.

There you go.

Oh,

Gladys is going to get it tonight.

Another night I come home and she's like, have you been playing pinball all night?

You're damn right, I have.

Get that dress off, Gladys.

We're going to town,

jackpot.

By the way, I'm not married.

Well, this is just,

yeah, anyway, so, yeah.

I forgot what we're doing at the end.

Yeah, I was going to say, at some point.

The meeting got this.

I got distracted.

People shouldn't be able to tilt them.

That's the thing.

I think it went pretty good in there.

AAS is overseen by Fred Galeno.

Ah.

Freddie Kruger.

Always smallpox.

Look at that, eh?

Never not smallpox.

Yeah, Fred Galino.

All right.

He is close with the local Teamster union leader.

Okay.

So the Western Conference of Teamsters represent about 400,000 members, and the alliance gave the group almost total control over Seattle pinball.

Okay.

So now most taverns have exclusive deals with AAS to only use their pinball machines.

Sure.

And AAS used their monopoly to create price fixing and decide who could operate their pinball machines in jukeboxes at which locations.

But how did AAS start it?

Didn't it start?

Just a bunch of guys got together.

Okay, I thought it was like to prevent this sort of thing, but obviously.

No, no, it's no,

they're the criminals.

It's a criminal organization.

That's why it's ass.

1956, the Tacoma

City Council declared pinball machines a, quote, public nuisance and voted to ban them.

It's hilarious that Tacoma was like, uh, no,

no, uh, we see a bright future for us.

We

do not want to be like Seattle.

We're Tacoma.

We're a little different here.

Welcome to Utopia, Tacoma.

Someday this city will be a comic book store.

The what?

Yeah, we'll have a comic book shop

The downtown is gonna be bars

We'll be closer to the airport Well

a little bit

We're Tacuma

Seattle won't nobody will know Seattle.

No.

They'll be fighting to get their name on our airport.

Yeah.

Taxi, they'll call it.

George, sorry, Gordon Clinton ran for mayor of Seattle.

So he ran as a reformist, but endorsed allowing pinball to continue.

Okay.

So AAAS just grew stronger, and Teamsters are now intimidating bar owners into carrying their machines.

Okay.

So they're basically making people have pinball machines.

Right.

They're just in the bar, just like, you should probably go play a little pinball.

Are you talking to me?

Yeah, get over that.

Put your money.

Yeah, get over that.

Hey, how come I don't hear a jukebox playing right now?

My friend and I are just trying to have a beer and have a conversation.

So.

how come I don't hear a jukebox playing right now?

Well, if you want, you can put some tunes on yourself.

I'm catching up on an old friend, so

but I guess it would be probably pretty good to have some music.

Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

Maybe we'll play a little pinball too while we're at it.

Yeah,

alrighty.

I gotta break one of your fingers now.

You didn't jukebox fast enough.

Okay.

I want to hear ABBA all night long.

Pretty sure it's the 40s.

Who gives a shit?

I'm a teamster.

Not sure I'm following.

I can't put on something that doesn't exist on a machine that I don't want to play now.

Teamsters are forever.

Okay.

Their main competition were the Colocurio Bro.

Colocurio

Curcio.

Run by brothers Sam William and Frank.

What's the name?

I don't even know.

And I'm among them.

The brothers used force and intimidation to make owners carry their machines.

I think you're going to love pinball, and I think you're going to have a bunch of them.

You're going to like it.

So how big's your bar?

What's the square footage?

Just a thousand square feet of square.

Okay, you're going to have 78 pinball machines.

Well, that's completely impossible.

We would be stacking up.

Hey,

and 42 jukeboxes.

That's crazy.

That's absolutely crazy.

It is crazy.

It's crazy fun.

Nobody messes with the Tecola orches.

Do you understand?

But it was becoming harder for the brothers as AAS took over, so naturally tensions grew.

And on the night of October 11th, 1957, a bomb blew up Sentry distributing a pinball and jukebox business in the Queen Anne neighborhood.

You want to fuck with my pinball machine?

And this is in King County or whatever?

Yeah.

So they're like king pinballs.

They're kingpins.

Balls.

King pins.

Is anybody happy right now?

Yeah.

There were two or three people who were like, I like where he's at it.

I should have married him.

There's 900 people here.

Two's not a big number.

Hey, watch it.

That joke was sanctioned by the de Colaroches.

Hey, mama, Mama de Colo Locci.

Yeah, he said, what are you doing?

You did it.

Go!

Palo, what about the a jukebox.

Mama, the colonocci are there.

Sabama.

We're visiting with her.

Oh, we are.

Well, not you.

You don't have her the fucking.

Hey, Mama, I brought you a jukebox.

Yeah, we got you a bunch of pinballs.

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No, no, no,

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That's not how they call a court, you know.

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The God, the father of the pin the ball.

He's a pin the ball.

And he's also a

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Oh,

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Disgusting.

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The reaction the second time around was a way less.

They're scared.

What?

They're scared.

They're scared.

Are you really?

Scared?

No.

The great meatball coming around.

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And Spicy said it might be.

The spicy meatball peeves.

No, no, no.

Now that one got a no real one psychopath to shout her.

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Was it the Colorado Chario?

No, it's cousin.

You're the pedo liar, guys.

No, no, no, no.

No.

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That is not a good, okay?

You keep it at a gone, and they're gonna call me pinball because I can't be near a school.

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So during the bombing.

All right, the bombing of games.

All of the pinball machines, jukeboxes, and coin-operated devices were destroyed.

All of them.

The owner told investigators he didn't, the owner told investigators he couldn't think of anyone who wanted to harm his business, even though he'd been helping AAS muscle the

caracuchios from locations.

Caracuchios.

So a month later, Frank was charged with threat of bodily harm.

Now, tavern owners said they were threatened with beatings if they didn't didn't carry the brothers' machines, and there was a predatory loan sharking operation where money was loaned to a bar in exchange for exclusive pinball and jukebox rights.

They're really coming at, yeah, they're like, these are the best.

Hey, okay, here's how it's going to go.

I'll give you money that you carry our machines.

You give me money for your

okay, great.

You fucking idiot

you're paying me to take your machine.

Yeah

Is that really how this went?

Yeah

Well good work code of the cover chios.

Well welcome to hell.

All right, go for it

Okay

Hey guys a plan Seems weird.

We loaned out a lot of money.

We got no money left broke and we have no pinball machines

So,

and then there were match bombs, match bombs, which they put under rival jukeboxes.

So, you would put a litter cigarette on an open book of matches.

Oh, we've all done this.

Good lord.

And when the cigarette burned down, it would set off the matches and start a fire.

So

start a fire underneath and burn the jukebox machine.

Match bomb.

I mean, that's how we used to light fire.

Oh, it sounds more exciting.

All right.

Sorry, go ahead.

Start from there.

Seattle Police Department put out a public statement: quote: We will not allow gangsterism to gain a foothold in this community, nor will we permit intimidation of any citizens by threats or violence.

Sorry, already been going on a lot.

No, now.

Now they're like, now we're stopping it.

Now that we're not getting paid, we have no choice but to enforce the laws.

And the jukeboxes are being burned.

Yeah, disgusting.

In May 1958, the city council voted against renewing pinball licenses for William Cochio and ordered him to sell his pinball interests.

Two months later, Mayor Clinton signed a pinball and jukebox ordinance tightening regulations, including a limit on how many licenses could be issued.

On January 23, 1959, another bombing hit the Pioneer Card Company.

Pioneer made and sold dice.

playing cards and other gambling equipment.

A stick of dynamite had been dropped through the mail slot.

That's the worst bombing ever.

Through the mail slot.

Is anybody here?

Yeah.

Can you leave?

Are you the mailman?

Yeah.

What do you have?

Mail?

It's nightmare.

I've never heard of nightmail before, and I didn't realize it was night until just now.

Yeah, it's like 2 a.m., so I don't know why you're there.

Well,

I'm changing some of the.

I'm in.

I don't have to tell you nothing.

I've never received nightmare before.

You should go out the back door.

Why?

Nightmare.

What?

You fucking idiot.

I'm going to blow the place up.

With nightmare?

Jesus Christ.

You're the exact kind of fucking idiot that end up working in a pinball machine place at night.

We do dice and cards too, but explain to me why this nightmail is gonna explode.

I'm putting lid dynamite through the fucking mail slot.

Someone mailed dynamite?

What the fuck?

Why did they do that?

Who sent it?

What's the return address on the stick?

How are you this stupid?

Look,

I brought the dynamite.

I'm lighting it and throwing it through.

It's gonna blow the place up.

Then why did you have to mail it if you?

Nobody ever!

God damn it!

I'm afraid

I'm a little confused, to be honest with you.

I'm in my nightgown, too, my love.

What the fuck are you in your nightgown for?

Because I live above this area.

I live above the shop.

Now that I'm done answering your questions, I want to know who mailed this dynamite to me.

And are you even a mail carrier?

I'm not.

Are you?

I'm a fucking

go on.

I'm a made guy.

You're a mailed man.

No.

I'm a made guy.

I muscle.

They're not paying you enough so you don't have to work nights as a mailman?

You know, we need someone around the shop.

Sir?

I'm a woman.

What do you mean, sir?

I said I'm in my nightgown.

Everything was very clearly defined.

My husband and I are going through a difficult patch, if you must know.

I don't want to know.

Roy and I fell in love 20 years ago, but

since then, he's neglected me because he was having an affair with his secretary, which he's apologized for repeatedly.

But I don't know if I believe that he's turning over a new leaf.

Which is why I was down here at night.

I was consumed with thoughts of he and her again.

Happens to me from time to time, so I thought I'd come down here and rearrange some of the card setups.

Hey, Gladys, I'm gonna eat the dynamite.

You're not very good at your job, are you?

And I don't know why you're looking this direction.

We still have a door between us.

But I am intrigued by you.

You sound like a fella who needs someone.

Maybe you could slip some dynamite through my mail slot.

You ever think about something like that?

No, I'm gay.

Oh,

foolish lad, that's just invented.

The church will take that bride out of you.

So the Pioneer Card Company was blown up.

A month later, it was discovered the

Cuccio brothers were using dummy corporations to get around regulations.

So the city council revoked the licenses of any coin-operated business connected to the brothers, and that included Shivers coin-operated company in the OG pinball company in and downtown jukebox business.

Wow.

Ken Shivers was already indicted for bribing a Washington state Supreme Court judge.

Shivers left the pinball business and became a home contractor.

Yeah, I can bid you offense.

Some ways similar.

I can bet you offense.

Just go ahead and give me some money up front.

Absolutely.

This wall is just full of slugs.

The hell is this?

Enjoy it.

On the night of February 18th, 1960, Fred Galino's car was bombed outside of his home.

Jesus Christ.

I can't believe.

This is over pinball.

I know.

That's all I keep thinking.

He was asleep when this happened, so it was like a warning.

The noise was described as deafening and heard two miles away.

Jesus Christ.

So now Mayor Clinton puts out a statement declaring he would try to abolish pinball machines if any bombings turned out to be pinball related.

But he's going to say that they aren't.

Well, yeah, I mean, obviously it's pinball related, but he's like, look, if the pinball king had his car blown up and it turns out to be pinball related as opposed to like, you know,

trying to get your kid on a soccer travel team,

then we're going to crack down.

Six detectives were assigned, and the FBI launched an investigation.

The remains of Galeno's car were sent to a special forensics labs in Washington, D.C.

Nice.

The car bombing happened during an ugly mayoral election.

Mayor Clinton's opponent, Gordon Newell.

Another Gordon?

Yeah, was there one before?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Two Gordons?

Yeah, Gordon, a Gordon all.

Jesus Christ, yeah.

Gordon V.

Gordon.

A Gordon.

It's about to get Gordon.

They still talk about it in Seattle.

The big Gordon.

Whoa.

Two Gordons enter.

Both leave, but one mayor.

So Newell denounced the mayor's tough stance on pinball, arguing that strict controls made things worse.

The best.

The best.

Where he's like, we need it.

This is just ridiculous legislation.

Getting in the way.

You're cracking down on pinball, and it's like watering weeds.

Now, a couple weeks later, very early in the morning, Newell's Austin Healy sports car was blown up.

I don't even know what it is, but I'm okay with it.

Newell said it was because of his comments about the pinball industry, though some thought it was done to politically embarrass Clinton, Mayor Clinton, so they thought that he had his own car blown up.

False flag.

Fast and false.

Let me tell you, there's no way that there's a connection.

100%.

If you look at that,

steel does not melt at that level.

The parts of that car that melted were done to, that is a control demolition.

That was 100% a control demolition done to lower Newell.

I'm just sick of this.

Pinballs turn in the frog sky.

So it didn't matter.

Clinton Clinton won re-election and Newell left politics and started publishing local history books.

I get it, buddy.

I was just going to say, I was like,

Dave was like, Newell's cool.

Newell, I get it.

You're like, Gordon, cool.

The hero has left the story.

There we are.

Yeah.

You just keep going on about him.

And some of his books were pretty good.

And Newell kept researching it going.

He started a radio show with a dude who didn't know shit and got paid the same.

Drove Newell crazy.

So the Michael Distributing Company was the largest pinball distributor in Washington state and on July 16th, 1960, it was bombed.

Dynamite was used.

Wow.

Oh my God.

Pinball bombing feared.

I mean, the idea that they're like, we're not sure.

There's just some detective who's like, what connects all of these?

Every one of them, a pinball facility.

What is it?

It's got to be there.

Something specific.

Get me more yarn, would you?

What are you going to do with the yarn?

I'm going to start trying to figure out some connection points between all these bombings.

We don't even have a board to put it on.

Yeah, I know.

I just, well, I ordered the board.

What are you going to do with the yarn?

I am going to start figuring out where I'll put it.

So I'll lay it out.

Where are you going to put the yarn?

Would you just get the goddamn yarn and then I can.

I'll show you what I'm going to do.

At some point.

First of all, Jones closed because the private equity took over.

Do you mean Joann's?

Yeah, sure.

But also, Jones.

They both closed.

Jones is a restaurant.

Joann's is the fabric.

Yeah, but you get yarn of both.

You can't get yarn.

All right, look.

Look.

You don't need to go get me yarn.

You don't need to go to Joann's.

I think it's Jones.

It isn't Jones.

You already conceded it.

Look.

We have bigger fish.

Don't say another goddamn thing about the yarn or where it's coming from.

Do you understand me?

I'm trying to figure out what connects all of these bombings.

Something's gotta be there.

You know what you should use?

I swear to God.

You should use a board and yarn.

Now there's a problem with that.

Is it that Joann's is closed?

And Jones.

First of all, Jones is not closed.

They're open till 8 p.m.

They're a restaurant and they don't have yarn.

Joann's is closed, but I told you a couple days ago to get me the yarn, and we had this exact same conversation.

Put your glasses back on.

But I'm just, I was.

Why do you keep taking your glasses off?

Normally, that means an ejaculation is about to happen.

Put them on.

Actually, wait, shoot a little.

It'll work for the yarn.

The way your mind works, you should be a detective.

Aren't I?

Oh.

Yeah, yeah.

Remember, yeah.

Yeah.

Can't believe I lost you.

All right.

All right.

Well, it's a really weird day at work.

Let's go home.

Hit your ends in the morning.

So the mayor said if the bombings weren't solved within a month that he would seek a permanent pinball ban.

And it was later revealed that the owner of the company was closely tied to AAS.

Fred Galino offered a $6,000 reward for information leading to the arresting conviction of anyone responsible for the bombings.

Okay.

So the Seattle PD used lie detectors to question pinball operators.

Hilarious.

Hilarious.

Fucking.

This is like, this is the dumbest.

They don't work.

I mean, but

it's also just like, how far have we come?

They used to be like, who's doing the pinball shit?

We got to figure it out.

Hook them up to what looks like a pinball machine and ask them.

Hey, sir, the lines are squiggling a little bit again.

Yeah, they get pretty excited when they hit the pinball.

After they play, we should ask them some questions.

So they came up with no leads from that, and the mayor called called for a total ban on pinball, saying Seattle allowed them for over 30 years, and the pinball industry only showed it was reckless and dangerous.

Can this country ever be normal?

Did we ever have what I'm being genuinely serious?

Were there ever two years where we're like, yeah, all right, nothing crazy happened for two years?

You know, like how a restaurant writes how many days since an injury?

Did we ever go 800 days without being completely fucking?

I mean, what the actual fuck?

Well, the only way to deal with this is to take these machines out to a field and beat them with hammers.

There we are.

Now, let that be a lesson to the rest of you, pinball machines.

You understand?

We don't want you in this town.

We don't want you in any time near here.

It's not like they can make more of these.

That'll be the end of that chapter.

I mean, there must be.

Now we just have to bury them at the bottom of the lake like Jason.

There should be another one.

Okay, so on September 20th, 1960, the city council rejected the mayor's bans, and the machines were bringing in $5,000 in revenue, so they kept it.

For a couple years anyway, public pressure mounted, and in January 1962, the Seattle Police Department said they would close establishments with illegal gambling devices per state law.

City Council quickly passed a policy allowing amusement-only pinball machines that didn't offer payouts.

What were the payouts?

People were getting cash.

They're getting cash.

Okay.

And prices.

By the way, if you could fuck,

they should bring that back.

Yes.

If I was at a fucking bar and you could play pinball and be like, well, I just want $5.

Imagine if there was like a pinball area at fucking Hara's.

Like, I would go play pinball.

Oh, that I would love to picture what that area's demographic is.

That blows my mind trying to imagine the people who are just like, fuck ya.

It's like when you see someone good at Dance, Dance, Revolution, you're like, ah, that's like the saddest shit I've ever seen.

That's fucking bananas.

Holy shit.

So

the, did I say this?

The Seattle Senate voted to allow individual cities.

So they punted.

The state government was like, you guys just make your choices.

Isn't that weird how the United States is, that's like the formation of it is just a clump of places that are allowed to have different laws per state and then per city.

And then they're just like, we don't actually want to do any of that stuff.

Yeah, we don't.

It gets pretty sticky once you have to make decisions.

So a federal grand jury on the pin mall business was convened in Seattle, and it led to the indictments of Fred

and John Michael.

John Michael was one of the guys who owned the places that were bombed.

Okay.

They were charged with overt acts related to political payoffs for, quote, making payments to maintain a situation whereby gambling on pinball machines in Seattle could continue.

Wow.

So pinball protection money.

Right.

Which, you know, a little while ago would have sounded really weird, but now we're all like, right.

Yeah.

Because of the pin mob.

Both were found guilty, fined $3,500, and they got a year of probation.

And then those guys both left the pinball racket, which left a pinball void, a vacuum that needed to be filled.

Uh-oh.

Who's about to walk into that?

Who's about to stick themselves in that hole?

Well,

it's not Joan.

What is your problem?

I mean, it's just so horrible to call her Joan.

Last time you were in a Joann's?

Honestly?

Yeah.

Like a year ago.

Shocking response.

There's one, I had to get something for Finn's, like, he had a class.

What you have to get?

Picturing you in a Joann's fabrics is my heaven.

Excuse me.

Dave and a Joanne.

Yeah.

Because, by the way, the idea of walking through a Joanne's Fabrics being like, I'll find it.

Why do you even bother going down one or two aisles?

You're like, excuse me, ma'am,

I'm an idiot, dude.

Where am I?

This is crazy.

Excuse me.

Where's the

yarn?

And what are you looking for today, poster board or yarn?

Yeah.

Is there a combination?

Where are the changing rooms?

You just put her arm full of yarn.

Excuse me, can I go try some of this on?

Is that possible?

How much yarn can I bring into the changing room?

How much yarn?

Do I need to tell you how many yarns I have before I go into the changing room?

Do you want to give me a seven?

There you go.

I just want to go see how these feel.

Just leaving

undone yarn everywhere.

It just wasn't.

I didn't like how it felt.

Sorry, this is so wet, but I was in there.

I don't know what happened in there.

That was crazy.

Thanks, Joan.

What the fuck just happened?

The game flourished as, quote, amusement-only action, but everyone knew they were still used for gambling, and they were bringing in about $6 million a year.

Fuck.

isn't that insane?

Insane, it's insane in 63.

So, the Caruccio brothers ran pinballs and jukeboxes.

I love how you've given up on the name.

Yeah, I don't know.

Cola Caruccio, it doesn't have a dub before it.

What

cola?

No, that was a joke.

Like, duh, like doubly ball.

Wait you that's racist

Oh This is a great moment

They're gonna talk about it online

Okay, Joan

This one will go down in history shut up pedal liar

the

De Calucriochio brothers Joan ran pinballs and jukeboxes and expanded to bars and nightclubs in Seattle's earliest strip clubs.

Strip clubs?

That's awesome, too.

Now we're getting going.

Get your tits out of my face.

I'm busy.

Stop it.

Enough.

Move.

I'm trying to make money over here.

In 1964, Mayor J.D.

Dorm Brandman.

What the fuck?

Who what?

Dorm.

Dorm.

His name was Dorm.

Hello.

His nickname was fucking Dorm.

Hey, Dorm, what are you doing?

Thinking about pillows.

Mayor J.D.

Dorm Braman brought back the tolerance policy that had faded under political pressure.

He said vice was easier to police if it was licensed and regulated.

Right.

So now, AAS had basically died after Gleno retired.

And a new pinball association rose, the Far West Novelty Company, which was a non-profit headed by Ben Kitchy.

And the FWN controlled the master license for over 2,000 pinball machines, pool tables, and bowling games throughout Seattle, mostly in taverns.

And players could win money playing even though it was clearly illegal.

And the local press started calling Kitschy the pinball king.

Okay.

So the Seattle Times starts a series on on vice and corruption, and reporters watched cops making cash pickups, and they realized it's widespread, and that cops were gambling after hours, especially at a place that would later become the Comedy Underground.

The Comedy Underground.

And they'd go in the Comedy Underground, and in the back bar, they'd shoot,

Target shoot at beer bottles.

The good old days.

The good old days.

Police Chief Frank Ramon said it was just just a few cops.

Let's get a couple where you cry.

Tell me about Joanna's again.

I mean,

no, no.

I'll start tearing up.

Not Joanna.

Again,

no.

Not Jones.

It's not Joanna's.

I don't even know how I'm involved in this runner.

I wasn't even there for the first part.

Well, you're clearly the guy who knows all about yarn and whatever.

Wow.

You think, get out of your ivory tower.

I would love it.

Sir, do you need help?

No, I'll find it.

I would love it if we found out that you were like a guy who was just like knitting sweaters on.

That would be great.

That would be great.

What are, are there any knitters in here upset about?

Hey, we're the knitters.

And are you upset about the closing of

it's totally gonna fuck everything up, right?

Fucking private equity.

Get a gun.

Wait, what the fuck are you doing?

No, that's not.

It's a joke.

It's a joke.

It's a joke.

Oh, but my God, it's not.

It's a parody.

Shut up.

Don't joke.

How fucking funny would it be

if there was a knitter Luigi?

Oh, my God.

Oh.

Oh, my God.

It's very calming.

It's very meditative.

Okay.

Should be played on like some phone footage in a month and a half.

Anthony joked recently about there being a knitting Luigi, and then they get me on Fox News.

Yeah, I fucking said it.

You're just gonna let all the fucking yarn places close.

Why are you from back to America?

You want to live in?

You're not from Boston.

Why are you doing a Boston accent a little bit?

That's what I do on Fox News!

You're yourself.

You're Dave Anthony, yourself.

You're actually you.

Am I?

Oh, my God.

So,

police chief Frank Ramon said it was just a few cops who were doing the shooting and the taking a muddy.

Which is always the problem.

It's a few bad apples.

Yeah.

A few bad apples.

A couple bad apples.

And then the orchard is sound.

Yes.

We need to plant more trees.

Yes.

They need to be everywhere.

If there's bad guys, we need more

guys like them.

Yeah.

Well, hold on.

Watch.

Wait.

Them.

yes

I don't know if he was saying anything towards what you were saying but I agree with him I believe that man was just tased

that man literally just yelled and you went exactly yes

bingo

that's what I'm saying my man

No need to put some words around that.

That's pretty clear.

The mayor said he wanted to build a better city and not run the police department, so it wasn't his problem.

Huh?

The mayor was like, That's not.

He's like, I can't deal with the staffing.

That's out of my jurisdiction.

Sorry if they're taking money and shooting up the comedy underground.

Sorry.

Public officials, is the comedy underground still there, by the way?

That guy says, No.

It's funny that, like, eight people, like, for sure.

That was a, when I was starting out, that was like a fun fucking club.

Public, although the one time I went there and a lady just vomited on the table,

that wasn't as fun.

What joke were you doing?

Public officials said having a tolerance policy kept Chicago gangsters from moving in and taking over.

A post-intelligencer series revealed the payoffs and cheating in the pinball world, and it revealed the mass crime racket of bingo.

It is a very easy game to cheat at.

There's a guy you're putting a lot on.

Yeah, B

three.

A six.

You could easily make up cards that would never win.

Right.

Right?

Yeah, I mean,

how do you do it?

Because you know what you're gonna call.

Yeah, that's what I mean.

The caller is so essential.

And so you have cards printed up and you know what you're gonna call ahead of time.

Right, yeah.

So the guy's just like, C2.

Wait a minute.

There's no C.

I have Banko.

Says, fucking feels something's off here.

My dauber doesn't work.

Shut up, you old bitty.

so they were going after old people oh my god and uh i don't understand

none of us have had bingo

that guy keeps winning bingo

and they were taking a run at charities

And the operation was bringing in hundreds of thousands of dollars a year.

Oh my fucking God.

Now the biggest was the Lifeline Club at Pike's Place Market.

And the second biggest was Alpha, assisting legislation for aging.

Jesus.

The pensioners would get a bingo card for a dime.

All right.

Good for one game only.

All right.

And the post-intelligencers sent undercover bingo players in.

You look a little young to come in here.

Don't worry about them, 81.

One lost $395 while winning just $55 over four months.

I don't understand.

Oh, wait, that's the cop.

Yeah.

Now I don't understand.

That's a reporter.

Yeah, whatever I am.

Yeah.

I'm undercover.

In 1968, the post-intelligencer Seattle Magazine and KING TV, it's King, we can just say it's King.

joined together for a joint investigation into corruption in King County.

And Seattle Magazine needed a a profile on prosecuting attorney Charles Oliver Carroll.

So Carroll is a hero in Seattle.

He had been an all-American running back for the University of Washington.

Oh, we are so dumb.

So dumb.

This guy could carry a football.

In a legendary game in which his team lost,

Carroll was so amazing that opposing Stanford players carried him off the field.

That is

the whitest privilegiest shit I've ever heard.

For he's a jolly good fellow, for he's a come on everybody for your fellow for his a jolly

hello.

President elect.

By the way, if he came back into the locker room after the opposing team did that, I'd be like, yeah, what the fuck?

Tell him to fucking put you down, asshole.

They were carrying me off.

Yeah, you fucking asshole.

President elect and Stanford alumnus

Herbert Hoover was so excited, he yelled, quote, that man is the captain of my all-American team.

So Carol was a bit of a big deal.

We really, I mean, oh.

But it's like 40 years later, he's still a big deal.

The Seattle magazine story was not good showing him to be a revenge, a vengeful prosecutor who was especially harsh on black people.

Felt that coming.

The magazine called for his resignation, and the media report revealed secret visits between Ben Kitschy and prosecutor Carol.

And a Grady photo apparently showed him bringing money to Carol.

Why the fuck?

Could these people not meet like in dark places to get like, why was everyone like, all right, no one's around.

Let's get out of this street lamp.

There's a big water cash.

Now get out of here, scram, see?

I mean, he would go to his house, and when the door opened, he'd hand him the.

There you are.

There's a bunch of money.

Here you go.

Here's money.

Thank you for that money.

Now don't be afraid to walk it down the street.

The reporter quote: What could possibly be the nature of such liaisons between men of such diverse callings, a prosecutor and a pillar of the pinball fellowship?

Jesus Christ.

The pinball Fellowship.

Like it's a royal family.

The Pinball Fellowship.

Legal opinions issued by Carol had allowed Akechi's organization to have almost total control of the pinball industry.

And legal opinions basically went against actual laws.

So it's like what, I don't know, if you've heard of Trump, it's like what Trump does.

Okay.

When When the story came out, Carol refused to answer any questions.

And he's not just a prosecutor.

He's a powerful Republican politician who controlled a bunch of public offices.

So the story hit when a payoff system in the Seattle Police Department was also being exposed in the press.

Cops were taking money from gamblers and taverns to stay in business.

The Seattle Post Intelligencer also documented how incredibly profitable the pinball business was, $5 million a year, as we said.

The state attorney general then asked the governor for legal powers to conduct an investigation, and the governor declined.

He said it was too soon.

Too soon.

We can't.

But

pressure grows.

And later that year, the AG ran as a Dem against the governor, and the pinball scandal became the big campaign issue.

Okay.

So the governor claimed the AG's investigation into Carroll was politically motivated, and the governor was re-elected.

I love, I just, that idea that things, it's like, yeah, it is politically motivated.

Fuck him, get him out of here.

Well, that sounds a little political.

But because of the pressure, I'm getting so mad at that picture.

It's fair.

It's fair.

Because of the pressure, he lets a new AG run an investigation into Carol and Keechee.

And sadly, on May 30th, 1969, before any real investigation got going, Ben Keechee was found drowned

in shallow water near his Lake Washington home.

Death was ruled an accident.

People were a little bit suspicious, though, because he was a really good swimmer and he drowned in five feet of water.

Remarkable, obviously.

Like, why would you not?

Oh, for fuck's sake.

You can't go out a little further.

Five feet.

There we are.

Hey, should we take him out deeper?

Nah.

Let's go get some food.

Yeah, you're right.

Fuck it.

Now, Carol refuses to answer any questions about the Keechi scandal.

And in the end, the new AG concluded there was no evidence of corruption.

Okay.

So there was currently an interim mayor because the previous mayor took a position in the Nix administration.

So the interim mayor was a city councilman who wanted a clean house.

And he gave limited power to three assistant police chiefs to clean up the department.

And on September 24th, 1969, when Chief Ramon was on vacation.

I can't believe it's 69, and we're still like, let's figure out pinball.

It's been going on for fucking 30 years.

Summer of love has passed.

Woodstock has happened.

And we're still like, all right, let pinball is still a huge epidemic.

So Chief Ramon is on vacation, so they raid the Lifeline Club bingo without telling him.

And they they cite 80 gamblers but confiscate evidence, which included payoffs, to politicians.

So the chief then declared there would be no, he comes back and he's like, no more raids.

We're not doing that anymore.

So now it's the police chief against the three assistant chiefs, and it's like a standoff.

And the three assistant chiefs demand the chief step down, and reporters for KOMO revealed the chief had cut Vice funding after the raid and released the gun of a lifeline owner from evidence as a favor, and that the gun had once belonged to a deputy sheriff whose wife now worked at the club.

It's so great.

But it's also so, it's just, this is what it is.

It's constantly people like, that was illegal.

I'm like, fire him, get him out of here.

Change the laws.

I don't want to get in trouble.

So now bingo is seen as a criminal enterprise.

Dave,

I

I just, I'm not, I don't know.

I don't know if I can't shift gears into bingo right now.

I'm really

still pinball reeling and now bingo, bingo, it's a criminal enterprise.

So Chief Ramon retires.

It's a crazy time.

There's anti-war protests, there's rioting, there's a lot of bombings.

From February 1969 to July 1970, there are 90

bombs set off in Seattle.

Fucking.

That's kind of cool.

I'm kind of into that.

90 bombs.

Yeah.

Seattle was third in bombings behind New York and Chicago.

Also,

but first per capita.

There's a bombing every like three and a half days.

Yes.

Now, cops are being called pigs so often

that they adopted the term and chose pig as a mascot and used the motto pride, integrity, and guts.

Well, here's what's great.

Completely didn't work.

Like that, the next day, and still ping.

Like, don't call me that.

Imagine

a new mayor began bringing in interim police chiefs from California.

There were six Seattle police chiefs from 1969 to 1970.

You have to go to another state to get cops.

But it's not fucked up, you do.

Yeah.

Well, now we can't go anywhere.

Yeah.

Because they're all great.

Yeah, because they're all pride, integrity, guts.

That's the best way to cover it.

What's up, pig?

Excuse me?

Pride, integrity, guts.

I respect you.

Yeah.

In 1970, ex-King County Sheriff Terry, Terry,

Tim McCullough, was indicted for taking bribes from Frank Caluccio and Ben Kitchy.

Now, Carol ran for re-election as King County prosecutor, and he spent the campaign refusing to talk about his relationship with Kitschie and lost the election.

The new prosecutor immediately started investigating corruption and indicted Carol and 18 others, a formal Seattle council, city council president, and an ex-Seattle police chief.

All the charges were about gambling, bribery, and bribery and prostitution.

We didn't even really talk about the pro we didn't even have time to talk about it.

How do you, it's just exhausting.

Testimony showed a massive cop racket where cops were the bag men.

A bar owner, quote, the beat cops were bag men, and I mean that literally.

Every week I put a paper bag on the bar and the beat guy comes in, sits down, has coffee.

picks up the bag with $100 of cash in it and says, goodbye.

In return, I don't get busted for code or liquor violations.

The cops would take half the money and bring the rest of their sergeant, and then the sergeant would take it up the line.

Some cops are making $1,000 a month, which is $9,000 today.

City Councilman Charles M.

Kaler, M.

Carroll, who was different from the first care, this guy's known as Streetcar Charlie.

Because

he likes streetcars.

I love how you're like, there's no time.

Streetcar, Charlie.

Keep going.

He likes streetcars.

He likes streetcars?

He was really into streetcars.

All right, keep going.

He's not okay.

Obviously, he was not effective.

I like when they ding.

He would.

Down in the back, sir.

Down in the back.

Sir, sir, sir.

Down in the back.

Sir, we're going like two miles an hour.

Sir.

Sir, sir, hold on.

Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding to stop.

No, hey, hey, sir, we stopped.

We've got a lot of people on here today, so please keep it together.

We have a bunch of stops to make, okay?

Are you going to be able to hold it together?

What's your name?

Streetcar Charlie.

Well, that's not great.

All right, here we go.

Glad we gave him a little moment.

Streetcar Charlie was getting $3,000 a month from the cops.

He oversaw the committee licensing pinball machines.

100 cops, many retired, were implicated in crimes going back 35 years.

Oh my God.

Imagine being retired.

Hello?

I was just going to go play some bingo.

Oh, I bet you were.

For what?

Who's at the door, Alan?

Drop those bingo cards, you son of a bitch.

What took you so long?

every day i play bingo and i

shake

the prosecutor said prosecutor carol was a political boss and had dirt on everyone which he had used to get what he wanted but the cases fell apart over time streetcart Charlie's case was dismissed, and by 1973, there were only 10 cases remaining.

So from 100 to 10.

Ex-Chief Ramon had been given immunity accidentally.

They were like,

That's just unfucking real.

Yeah, because he did the thing you see in movies where they're like, I will give you money on this.

And then he went and just laid it all out, and they were like, fuck.

So, you were doing everything.

Yep.

Anyway, have a good life.

Shit.

A judge dismissed most of the rest, Carol's, because the only witness against him was an admitted perjurer.

Only one cop pleaded guilty for taking bribes.

His lawyer was like, We fucked up.

Yeah, we're so

turns out.

Nobody else went down for this.

Bad news.

I plead guilty.

I did it all.

Bingo.

Guilty.

Guilty.

Bingo.

Guilty.

Guilty.

Bingo.

He got two months in jail.

Two months?

This is

pathetic.

This is like crazy.

Charles Carroll died in 2003.

And the city.

He was 180.

And the city prosecutor at the time said, quote, he was really a giant of his era, both in sports and legal arenas.

He was a grand old man, and I miss him.

I really do.

What you didn't mention is that the pallbearers were a bunch of people from another family.

They carried him to the grave.

Think about it.

Thought it'd go better, obviously.

For years, the cop bagman who took money from what became

Pike Place Market Grill

would sit on a stool mooching drinks.

Never indicted.

He got full retirement.

The owner, quote, I wanted to ask him for my money back.

So he went to the place he used to take money from and just got drinks for the rest of his life.

Because why wouldn't he?

Why wouldn't he?

Yeah.

I almost like it, to be quite honest with you.

I almost respect him.

Just sitting there like, I have a vodka soda.

Okay.

I don't know.

According to pinballmap.com, which is by the way, it's a great website.

If you guys.

If you, yeah, I've spent a lot of time.

Yeah.

Why don't you give everyone your login?

I think it should work.

Seattle has 484 pinball machines out for public play with a pinball-to-person person ratio of one

to 1,835 people.

Seattle is the number two pinball city in the country.

Portland is in first.

You guys should like each other.

You're basically the same.

Why would you do that?

Because I'm me.

You know what?

You do get that from your dad.

Yeah.

You both are addicted to booze.

Research was done by Josh and Rowski.

Oh, wait, did I do research for this?

I don't remember.

Thank you, Josh.

Or maybe, Dave.

I got

from the Seattle Star, I got from Seattle Times, I got from historylink.org,

and

Christopher Klein wrote the time that America Outlawed Pinball on history.com.

David Wilma wrote a bunch of stuff on pinball.

Oh, the main source for this was Brian Holden's Vice Files.

He also reprinted it at historylink.org.

And at the end, he said,

by the way, please, anybody who wants to

rewrite and use this as a source because history

should be spread around as opposed to copyrighted.

I don't agree, but

I miss Jones.

that is crazy i really don't even know what what is the what is the moral to something like this i'm completely lost as far as what we would say is the needle the threat no man no one is persecuted for their crimes yeah that that i mean everything as currently constructed continues to be completely ineffective and against societal our society because it's capitalist allows them to

call justice, and then they get to do what they want.

Always money.

Yes.

Always money.

Always greed.

It never will work as long as we have it, and we live in a system currently constructed where it will never go, ever.

That's right.

Yeah.

I mean,

the battle to overthrow capitalism, some people thought it would be fast.

Other people thought it would take hundreds of years.

It's going to take a long time.

It's a failed system already.

So, like, it is what it is.

Like, but this is like, but these examples have been going on for

continued microcosms over and over again.

It's a failed system.

It's a failed system.

Guess what?

Yeah.

It doesn't work.

Yeah.

You preach everything until you get to the top, and then you're like, actually, money is awesome.

Yeah.

I mean, you know, whatever.

It's all good.

How many times can I say that it fucking sucks?

Like, it sucks.

It's not working.

I love you still.

All right.

Well, fuck it.

Thank you, everybody, for coming.

I appreciate it.

Thank you.

Appreciate it.

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