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Comedians Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds examine bad boy Clay Allison. Recorded live in Albuquerque.
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thing. Thanks, Dave.
Jared Reynolds has no idea what the topic is going to be about.
September 2nd, 1840. Woo-woo-hoo!
You ever remember J-Town?
No. J-Town.
What do you mean to know? Just stop already. We're a religious American history.
Everything in America is religious now, motherfucker.
Robert Clay Allison was born in Waynesboro, Tennessee to Jeremiah and Mariah Allison.
It's a fucked up. Jeremiah.
Jeremiah.
That's the People magazine. Yeah.
Jeremiah. What are they up to?
Praying. Oh, my God.
Is there anybody named Jeremiah who's not religious?
I think there probably is, but they're like from it. Yeah.
You're not just like... Jeremiah, that'd be cool.
Their disappointment. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They left.
He had a clubfoot. Nice.
And he got a long line to get into that place.
Slip that bouncer toy. He'll get you in the clubfoot.
Jeremiah was a Presbyterian minister, and he also raised cattle and sheep, and then he died when Clay was five. Okay.
Coming out. Perfect, stranger.
It's a bad start when you have a clubfoot and you're got no dad at five. Yeah.
club foot at five.
I need this space.
Clay was called a restless child as a teen. He had wild mood swings and a big temper.
Sure. Now, this could have been from a head injury that he apparently got.
They're not sure, but they believe he got a head injury. How do they not? They know his foot's fucked, but they don't know about the head.
So he worked on the family farm until the Civil War broke out out when he was 21 and he immediately signed up with the
Confederacy
on October 15th, 1861. Although no, you want, I mean, when you think of the Confederates, aren't you like, yeah, head injury, club foot? That's our guy.
I'm sure they had a whole regiment. Hey, drag! Come on!
Hey, Domin Limpy, what are you doing? I don't know. I'm just fixing to eat this tree!
Idiot.
So he's about, he's all about fighting. He loved the fight, and sometimes he threatened to kill his superior officers when they didn't pursue Union soldiers who were retreating.
Well, listen,
you know,
either side, you got to like the idea of like, we should just keep killing them.
Like, the fight is right. The fight is right.
You want that in the war. You want a guy that's never stop killing them.
And he can't win. Now, club foot-wise, where is he at? He's still got it? That doesn't go away.
So he's just like yelling at the generals to get moving because he's like, some of us can't.
Yeah,
I think you just kind of have a little bit of a tilt. I don't think it's like a...
Tilt in battle is not great.
But I think you can still move fine.
It could be an advantage if you think about it. It's just no.
He could do matrix stuff. I'll finish.
He could do matrix stuff. What are you talking about? Well, I mean, he's got a tilt, like you said.
I think you don't know what a tilt is. I think you don't know what the matrix is.
That's what I think.
All right, I guess we'll watch it. Yeah.
Fuck, what?
No.
That's what the second show is tonight.
A new kung food. I mean, I remember this.
After a whole two months in the army, he was medically discharged. As his, quote, emotional or physical excitement produces paroxysmal of a mixed character, partly epileptic and partly maniacal.
What the fuck?
How do you become evil? Yeah.
Real Dr. Jekyll, Mr.
Hyde.
You know what that? I think you'd want that in a war. Like a guy just goes back.
I mean, I don't think you'd want that. I'm not killing your guys.
I still think you'd be like, if you're in a war and you're like, dude, chill the fuck out. Do you understand me? Ah!
Ah!
Woo!
Yes.
I'm with a whole regiment of those guys.
My ankle hurts.
Ah, twisted my ankle. I'm holding your head.
Ah! Woo! That's your. Ah, my ankle killing me.
The discharge document said it might have been from a blow to the head he had gotten years before, quote, producing a depression of the skull.
Okay, so he's got like CTE or something. Or are we talking like actual skull dividing? He's got it dead.
He's got a head dead. That's why he's got a dead.
Yeah. So that made him not the same because everybody else is.
He was maniacal. No, he's got an evil dead.
Yeah. Yeah.
So on September 22nd, which is nine months later, Clay enlisted in the 9th Tennessee Cavalry and they took him.
And he stays with that until the end of the war. He was a scout and a spy, and he grew a Van Dyke beard, like his
Van Dyke beard? Like the general he was with. It's that guy.
Oh, one of those.
That's him? Yep. Oh, wow.
Which is totally different, right?
Yeah.
It looks like he went to evil school.
He fully changed. The time he left, he was like, what do you say? We just put him on some train tracks.
On
May 4th, 1865, Allison and his company were captured, and he was sentenced to be executed, but escaped after killing a guard.
Sorry, those are the rules. You're allowed to kill them.
Yeah. Yeah.
Sorry.
And then he went home.
And once he got home, he joined the Klan. Jesus Christ.
All right.
Yeah, I love the bravery of booing the clan.
Just to be clear how we all feel.
They're in constant conflict with the Freedmen's Bureau of Wayne County and they once had an actual battle.
So Clay was part of a lot of skirmishes with the Klan and then one day a Union corporal came to the farm to seize property and Clay calmly got his gun out of the closet and killed him. Jesus Christ.
Well, don't come for the property, bitch. Yep, that's it.
It's the calm.
After Clay and his brothers, John and Monroe, and his sister Mary and her husband headed for Texas.
There you go. Yeah, for sure.
So there was a river they had to cross, and they had to use a ferry to get across it.
And the ferryman, Zachary Colbert, told them the price, and Clay thought it was too much, and so Clay beat him unconscious.
Jesus Christ. I mean, you got to get across the river.
How you going to do it? These guys... Just steal it and leave them on the shore?
Yeah, that's not fun.
Okay.
The journey continued, and then they settled near the Brazos River in Texas. Clay was a very skilled cowhand, and he...
Well, he was a cow. It looked like he was departed.
Yeah.
he wore a cow outfit, that's why.
He got work really easily. He would herd cattle through Texas, New Mexico, and Colorado.
And then he got into it with a neighbor over some water hole rights. Sure.
And the two guys decided that they would settle it by digging a grave. What? And that is fucking crazy bet.
You know, we dig a grave and one of those kids in it. You got a deal.
And then they both get inside. Oh, what? And have a bowie knife fight.
In the grave?
Holy fuck!
That is a tight quarter for a bowie knife folks.
Guess who won? Clay one. Clay one, yeah.
We were talking about him. Had the story be over here.
Yeah.
Holy shit.
That's how the podcast is going to end
In 1872, big cattle ranchers moved to Colfax County, New Mexico.
Yeah, fuck it, Colfax, where you at?
Oh, no, I don't care.
This whole place is the same.
Sorry.
Yeah, I know it's better for us to be able to. We love it here.
Been here for five hours. We'll be gone.
So
I'm sorry. It's nothing personal.
So you got some great stuff. You good.
You guys can get out. There's like, you can get in cars and stuff.
The Allison brothers went with
these big cattle hunters and they were given 300 cattle for 300 cattle for driving a herd, right?
I don't understand. They're going to drive 300 cattle wherever they're going to get.
Oh, okay. Take it to
wherever. Yeah, fuck old Jacksonville.
Yeah, right.
So Clay set up a ranch at the Vermeo and Canadian Rivers.
And his rancher was pretty soon making money. He was bringing in cash.
Cool. Do people know about the murders?
No, don't worry about that. Nobody knows about that.
They're like, wow, he's pretty good at this. I meant to look up the name of the city.
You know, he fought a guy in a grave before this.
His resume. Yeah.
A lot of holes in your resume. What were you doing before this? Like, if a guy says, I fought a battle to the death in a grave, you're like, you're hired.
What the fuck? I'd be like, cool. All right.
Not going to not say that. Did you just see me running? Did he leave his own business? Yeah.
The two closest towns were Cimarron? Simson?
Cimaron. Cimaron.
Simarong.
And then also Elizabethtown was the other big town nearby. And the Alice
quickly became part of the scene in both towns.
At first, they were liked. Everybody liked him.
At first.
Well, there's no law enforcement yet in the area. And Saturday nights, the Allisons just went off.
They drank. They got on their horses.
They rode up and down the street, yelling and shooting.
And they went into saloons and into gambling joints. And then they started shooting lamps and mirrors and glasses.
They liked to also shoot at newcomers' feet to make them dance.
And Clay was known to run around naked.
Just Hollywood, baby.
But that's really how I picture this time in general. I don't really picture like 90% of the people being like that.
Yeah.
And then there's just a couple people writing it down, like, Jesus fucking Christ.
Like, there's a town of me's and then one you.
I'll write this down. Wow.
This will come in handy later.
While I'm gambling and jacking off, you know what I mean? No. Boom.
Are you gambling and jacking off at the same time? Yeah.
Yeah.
With dice in my hand, whacking it. Yeah.
That's really great, man. Yeah.
Hey, I'm a good guy.
We all have our different versions of what good means.
Leave that fist right there.
In the fall of 1870, Charles Kennedy...
He was arrested for robbing and killing guests who stayed overnight at his cabin
bypass. Are you not allowed to...
Well, you should be able to.
I would just say if it's that time and there's not a lot of people around and someone comes to your house and is like, may I stay here? You should be able to kill him. Kill him, absolutely.
It's like Verba. Yeah.
And so Clay and a group broke into the Elizabethtown jail and dragged him behind a horse with a rope around his neck up and down the street until he was dead.
And then after a while, Clay got off his horse and cut off his head and put it in the sack and rode 29 miles to Simron and ordered the head staked on a fence in front of Lambert's Inn. What?
What? He had 29 miles on horseback to think about this decision. I was like, yeah, it's a good idea.
Definitely the right move.
Lambert must have been like, No.
No, that's bad. I rode quite a while and never in my head did I calculate you'd say no to somebody.
Well, it's just bad for people. Well, what am I supposed to do with that?
Why did I spend 20 minutes getting it off his body?
It's going to be very inviting. No, people.
Put his head on there. Nobody wants to go to a hotel.
I do.
It's like a lamp in a window. It's inviting.
His head's on a pike or something. Why would people want that? Because I'm going to kill you unless you do it.
That's a good argument
about that. Yeah.
A little fucking liberal.
How many nights do you stay?
I don't have much of a plan. I got a dented head, a clubby foot.
I just killed a guy in a grave.
He was alive when I went in it.
We dug it as a team.
Let me explain to you what happened back there.
We agreed to dig a grave together.
You better believe there was small talk. By the time the grave was dug, I sort of liked the guy.
But rules are rules. We didn't just go out there to form a friendship while hole digging.
So one of us had to go, and it was him.
I lost my best friend that night.
Anywho's put the head on your fence.
So in April, April 30th, 1870, Allison and two men were believed to have stolen 12 mules from Fort Union.
He was tried
in the fall. It's amazing that that's what got him.
They're like, you stole horses.
I also just gave a hotel gatekeeper a head.
I made a mistake here. Anyway,
don't tell me it's that the grave fight didn't happen.
No, no. There was some sort of fight.
I don't know how it got there, but.
Between who?
Well, a bunch of... There was chaos.
So in the town, there was like a bunch of chaos going on. Okay.
And
Clay was like trying to escape from like
when he got caught for stealing the mules. Okay.
And there's other people shooting and then Clay accidentally shot himself in the foot.
Well he might walk better now. He might have
so they still escaped though and they made it to a hideout on the Red River and Clay sent for his friend Davey Crockett. What? Nephew of the famous Crockett.
Oh,
little what? Little Lil Crockett. That little Crockett.
I mean you gotta go with David at that point.
Well I mean it depends what your lifestyle is. If he was just like, I'm trying to be an attorney,
JP Crockett.
They also sent for a doctor, and he helped Clay, but Clay would have lived for the rest of his life. Okay.
So a little while after, he was boozing it up in a saloon when someone said something he didn't like.
And that guy runs out, but Clay is now in a bad mood.
That's not good. So he went to the county clerk's office where he got mad at the county clerk for saying something.
What is it? He's in the county clerk. He said, What are you doing? You're hammered.
Yeah.
Footnote touching me like that. So Clay threw a knife at him.
Okay.
It only
caught his sleeve, and so his sleeve got stuck to the door. That's fucking crazy.
You got to pretend like you meant to do that.
Next one goes in your body, Jack.
You didn't know you were working with Michael Winslow, did did you?
I felt like I was there. A knife went right by me.
Yep.
To the helicopter.
Look at all these kangaroos.
So the clerk ran out and Clay threw his knife at a young lawyer who also ran. And they both ran across the street to the doctor's office.
And then the lawyer grabbed the doctor's gun, saying he would be.
What a great era
that we're entering again.
Let me go grab my doctor's gun.
My lawyer's isn't loaded.
And then he said he would kill Clay in self-defense, and then Clay rode up outside, and the clerk and lawyer bolted out the back door.
And the doctor went out the side and told Clay he was not behaving well.
Is that the end of it? No. Oh, fuck.
And I was like, oh, that's good. I would have been like, you're the best.
And Clay just laughed at him and said he only wanted the guy who upset him in the saloon, and then he rode off in search of him.
Now, the lawyer, his name was Melvin Mills, and he would hold a grudge forever.
Clay is not good with women, but he then met Dora McCullough.
Clay and his brother John met Dora and her sister and the girls had been orphaned during the war and they now live with guardians, the Youngs, and Mrs. Young does not like Clay.
How old are these orphaned girls?
Clay alone. The two couples alone.
How old are these? Dora's 18.
And the other? Clay's 39. I don't know how old the other one is.
Does it matter?
It's not great.
They begged the Youngs to forgive them, and over time the Youngs did. And the Youngs came to believe that Clay did not seek trouble, but didn't turn away from it when it came his way.
Now Clay is not a fast draw, but he was just cold ice veins guy. So he was the guy as a dude.
Yeah. It's like unforgiven.
Right.
For those of you who don't know, that was a dog food.
That's a dog true.
Mace Bowman was very quick, and he was from Kentucky and served in the Texas Cavalry and the Rangers. and he became a sheriff in Trinidad using the name Matt Mason.
As you do.
He just changed the whole name.
Yeah, alright, sure.
But now... He's like Sag.
He's like, there's already a Matt Mason.
But so now he starts calling himself Mac Bowman. Mac Bowman.
And Mason and Clay knew each other pretty well and had mock duels. Mock duels? Yeah, they'd fake it, you know.
They'd go out and like pretend. Yeah.
They were LARPing? Yeah.
But then one night things got a bit more serious in a saloon, and Clay was very drunk, and when he got drunk, he became more confident with his skills.
So, whatever Clay said to Mace, Mace turned and said, quote, have at it. And they bet a gallon of whiskey.
Jesus fucking God.
All bets are that for me from now on. Want to put a gallon of whiskey on it?
Amen.
Want to put a gallon of whiskey on that? The best whiskey comes in gallons. Yeah.
It's like Costco. Holy fuck.
Looks like a gallon of McLaren.
They paced to the walls, turned and pulled. Mace had his gun pointed at Clay before he could even get his out.
So Clay paid for the whiskey, and apparently they then took off their clothes down to their underwear and danced.
Now,
why can't all duels end like this?
This is the part of the West you don't hear about.
That would be great. Well, you win.
Makes you rethink that grave ending a little bit.
Then they shot it at each other's feet to see who would flinch, and neither one did. Doesn't sound very fun.
None of this sounds fun.
After, Bowman taught Clay how to pull his gun faster. Why? Why not? They're buddies.
Okay.
On January 7th, 1874, gunfighter Chunk Colbert.
Come on.
So Chunk came looking for a fight with Clay. Colbert believed he was the fastest there was.
But he was also the nephew of the ferryboat operator Clay had beaten unconsciously
nine years before. Nine years.
Get over it.
Get over it. I don't even remember that.
I can't remember who beat the shit out of my uncle last month. Yeah.
Me.
So Chunk could have been there for revenge.
Chunk was rumored to have killed six men and was bragging he'd make Clay the seventh. So Chunk arrives in town, he finds Clay, and then they spend the day drinking together and gambling on horses.
Okay.
And then Chunk asks Clay to dinner at Clifton House. But he thinks something's up.
Clay does. Clay's always weird.
Nobody ever wants to sit down and have supper with me. Yeah.
So,
you know, Colbert's acting very, a little too friendly, I guess.
And so, Chunk puts his gun in his lap, and Clay puts his on the table. And then they eat.
Comfortable. Yep.
And then Chunk suddenly pulled his gun, and Clay was ready, does the same.
Chunk's revolver clipped the table, and the shot was deflected, and so Clay shot Chunk Colbert in the head.
That's where you do it. And that's just in a restaurant.
Yeah, we're in the middle of the morning.
I thought we were in the non-shooting section.
Would you like shooting or non?
Shooting. We'll do shooting.
What?
Shooting.
Say he's buried in an unmarked grave behind Clifton House. Why? Why unmarked?
What are you going to do? Mark it. We know who he is.
Everyone's there. People are like, we don't know who that was.
I don't know how to spell chunk. Yeah.
Chunk's friend Charles Cooper sees the whole thing, and two weeks later, he and Claire are seen riding together, and then Cooper is never seen again.
Okay,
so. So, Cimarron is a boom town.
So, how many deaths are we at right now? There are a lot of
10? Yeah, maybe. Okay.
Yeah, it's up there. Okay.
Cimaro was a boom town as gold had been discovered nearby, and it's in an area that was a land grant.
So, originally, it was the largest land grant in North America. It was given by the Spanish government to two guys, thinking that would encourage Mexican settlers, but they didn't come.
Smart. Yep.
And then later, the U.S. Congress gave the land grant to Lucian Maxwell.
So, anyway, he's from the Maxwell family, and the Maxwells became the largest landowners in the world for getting the land grant. Okay.
So, his operation is headquartered in
Cimaron or Cimaroon? Cimaroon. Cimaroon.
Cimaron.
So Colonel Edmund visits and said the Maxwell house was insane opulence.
Would you like a coffee?
He, quote, lived in a sort of barbaric splendor akin to that of the nobles of England at the time of the Norman conquest. Oh, and we all get that.
So he's a rich guy in the middle of New Mexico, just
living like he's not in New Mexico. Right.
He had a racetrack built in back and held weekly races. Oh my god.
He employed up to 1,000 people but treated them all horribly.
Quote, if a Mexican servant didn't suit him or did anything against his orders, he took a board or plank or anything he could get a hold of and whipped him with it.
With a fucking board?
I mean, if you can't find a whip,
Christ, you know what, grow up.
You better not be looking at me right fucking now.
Sometimes you got to beat the help.
Maxwell was brutal and he flaunted his wealth.
Once, when told he should get a safe because he had 30,000 in a drawer, Maxwell just responded by smiling and said, quote, God help the man who attempted to rob me.
Okay.
Now,
copper is discovered,
and then gold is discovered. and so this makes Maxwell even richer.
Okay.
And then also he's getting rich from all the rents he took from the settlers coming to strike it rich.
Then he starts evicting squatters, settlers, farmers, and small ranchers. Okay.
So he's got everybody. He's good new money.
Yeah.
And so there's a new group of rich, powerful men behind the grant, and they're called the Santa Fe Ring.
The lawyer Clay had thrown a knife at Mills, remember that guy? Oh, yeah, yeah. And the doctor who treated his foot injury.
Doctor with the gun? Yeah.
Longwell, we're both now part of the Santa Fe Ring. Okay, is that good? Nope.
Okay.
In 1875, Longwell was elected probate judge and Mills a state legislator. Okay.
And as sheriffs served eviction notices, people start fighting back. Okay.
Grant pastures were set on fire. Sure.
Cattle rustling went up and officials. Cattle rustling? Wrestling.
Wrestling.
No.
Cattle wrestling. Wrestling.
Wrestling. Wrestling.
What are you saying? Wrestling. Wrestling? Wrestling cows.
Wrestling them. Wrestling.
You know, you steal a cow. I don't even give a shit.
Who do you care? Wrestle, wrestle.
Do you think it was actually wrestling? I'm not sure what any of it is, to be quite honest with you.
Stealing cows. Steal cows.
Okay. Wrestling.
Yeah. It's just you're throwing away the.
Wrestling.
You know, you put on a little outfit and you go take the cow. Ding, ding, ding, ding.
Woo.
I'm going to take the cow tonight. Cow, you're going down.
The belt comes home with humans.
Enough bullshit.
You've been mooing your mouth off long enough.
Just has the American flag wrapped around it.
There were also people, officials would be threatening a gunpoint, and the Senate Ring sent gangs to attack homes at night and threaten people.
So the people created their own group, the Colfax County Ring, and some believed that Clay was the leader. Okay.
Clay was in charge of the Colfax County wing.
Reverend Franklin told me he began giving sermons in towns around the area, and Clay liked it. And he aligned.
Yeah, of course. He aligns with the settlers, and he openly stated he'd do whatever he could to stop the Santa Fe rain.
And on September 14, 1875, he was found shot in the back in a nearby city. He was? Yeah.
Oh, fuck.
And rumor was the new constable, Cruz Vega, was involved in the killing. And another minister, Reverend Oscar Patrick McMaines,
now joins with the settlers. So there's no luck finding the killer.
So Reverend McMaines asks Clay for help. And on the evening of October 30th, a masked mob rode up on the constable.
And the constable said he had nothing to do with it. And he blamed it on another guy.
And that guy said he was hired by Francisco Grigo. That guy admitted that he did it.
Shit, Vinny's $11 for Targo Bell.
It doesn't happen on our podcast.
I don't think it happens on any.
You should probably tell the story about Luke having Taco Bell today while we're on halftime.
Which story?
The Taco Bell one. Don't say which Taco Bell one.
Okay.
We're almost there.
So we stop at Taco Bell because I'm scared of all the food places.
And
Luke gets, first of all, all, we're inside and he goes, well, he's driving. And he goes, well, I'm going to get hard because they're easy to.
Hard tacos.
They're easier to handle when driving than soft.
So he's already fucking crazy. Like, it's the, I was just like, I didn't say anything because I'm not going to, like, that's just like, okay.
Yeah, no, hard tacos are how, I was like, well, they do break up a little bit. He goes, yeah, I can do it.
So
we're driving. And he, for some reason, he doesn't eat one for like 45 minutes.
And then he pulls it out of the bag. Well, you know why.
They'll let it settle. They're wine.
Yeah, you let it settle.
Let it cook. And he takes out a taco, he's got his hand.
And
I'm watching him because Luke's. He doesn't want to watch, yeah.
And a little piece of tomato comes out of the taco and lands on his arm.
And he accidentally hit him with the bat. He's like, get out of it!
It scared him. Exploding.
Tomato. Just a shower of taco.
Tomatoes scared him.
His own tomato from his taco fucking freaked him out.
And then he shed. And then he LeBron does taco.
And he was like, and then he sits everywhere and he's like, and that's why you don't hurt.
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Okay, so Francisco Grigo hired the guy
to kill the Reverend Crazy Eyes.
And he says he's hired by Francisco Grigo, who was the constable's uncle.
Okay, He was the constable. I was picturing the constable older.
Okay.
So the mob beats him up and they hang him from a telephone pole. Francisco.
They do that to Francisco.
Or the constable. They did it to the Francisco's.
The constable.
Yes. Okay.
Forget the constable. There's too many people.
Imagine being me, motherfucker.
Yes. So they killed the constable.
Okay.
They hang him by the tree. And his last words were like, well, well, well, what is going on here then?
So that's all a bit much for Reverend McMaines. And he's like, oh.
And he leaves. Now, Francisco Grego, who also goes by poncho, claims the body the next morning.
Claims it. Claims, that's mine.
Yeah.
And it's taken to a Cimaroon cemetery for burial. Sure.
But before it's in the ground, Clay and his crew ride up and they told.
I want to fight it.
They told Grego the constable could not be buried in the same cemetery as the man that he killed. Never had told me.
That's fair. That's fair.
I was going to say, I'm not, it's crazy, obviously, but I'm like, I'm okay with that one. Yeah, that's a good rule.
Yeah, I mean, it's wild. Yeah.
You know, but I'd be like, yeah, look, he fucking killed him. I don't want him like his neighbor now.
But it's also like, it's the fucking desert. You'll bury him anywhere.
Yeah. It doesn't matter.
Yo, there's a lot of places to bury him. Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Anyone. Hitchhikers, your buddy's dead, whatever you want to call it.
You can always find a spotlight.
But then Clay said you can't bury him in city limits. You've got to bury him a half a mile west.
Now he's being a bit much. No, I like it.
Okay, yeah, he's lost me. I'm like, just download.
Set boundaries. Yeah, all right.
Later that day. Pennsylvania.
Later that day, Grigo, the constable's son, and others start threatening townspeople. So they go to the St.
James Hotel, because that's where Clay is.
So Clay's there, and Grego accuses him of being part of the mob, lynching, right?
Which you're sure he was. And Grego at the time is fanning himself with his hat.
Love that. Yeah.
Which is apparently an attempt to distract Clay as he's pulling his gun.
So Clay pulls his and shoots Criego.
And they have to close the saloon for an inquiry. And locals said that closing the saloon was the worst thing that happened that day.
You know, the GM was in the back, and he was on like the little whiteboard that says like 31 days without an injury.
So Clay and his crew go bananas over the next week. Okay.
They went into the offices of a paper and threatened the editor with a knife. They took over the St.
James Hotel.
While drinking, Clay stripped naked and did a war dance on the spot. He killed Diego.
Who was with him in this stuff? It's not like a time.
He likes to be naked. I know, but there's like...
Everybody's got their thing. I know, but we've all had that friend in our life and it's like, buddy, this is only just you.
Like, what are you?
Is that a knife? Everyone else is just enjoying a cake.
No, we had
a buddy in high school, and then everybody would get drunk, and then all of a sudden he'd walk through the party naked, he'd be like, Craig. I know.
Dude,
I had a guy in high school, and you'd just like, everything would be fine, and then he'd be gone for 10 minutes.
It would be like Super, and he'd be like, Why isn't Clark Kenned in the same room as Superman? And all of a sudden, here he'd walk in, he'd be like, Jesus Christ, dude.
Blacked out naked. We'd be like,
Okay.
Hey, sex tribe. Yeah.
So
they do a little war dance on the Spotty Kill Gregory.
At the time, he just had a red ribbon tied around his junk.
I don't know if I'm more out or in now.
I think in.
Was it the holidays? Yeah. Okay.
It's got to be Christmas. Yeah.
So.
So I don't forget something.
On November 10th.
On November 10th, he went to the court for the shooting, but the charges were dropped. He was probably in the court, like, which shooting is this?
Mayor Woodtown. You're going to have to be a little more specific.
Which Criego?
Criego.
It was ruled that justifiable homicide, though.
Those are the best era.
And the court has taken everything into account.
And
he should have been murdered.
You're out to kill him. That's all right.
Well, it says here in the rules that if he looks at you funny, he was fanning himself with his hat.
I should have shot him. Unreal.
What took you so long? Kill him right now if you're here. Yeah, now this charge of nudity after, I'm also going to wait because
who wouldn't celebrate a kill and have a ribbon?
You had a bit of a ribbon. You got your rib on.
You may leave, sir.
Now,
the guy, the constable named,
who he said did the killing, was now arrested in Elizabethtown.
And he said the constable was the one who shot the Reverend, and also that Mills and Dr. Longwell were behind it.
So now the Santa Fe Ring's coming in. Mills is the guy he's shot.
He's the lawyer.
Right, right, yeah.
So word spreads, and
the lawyer and doctor are other hundred. The lawyer barely escapes an angry lynch mob.
Sure. He bolts out of a coach and he runs off.
Dr.
Longwell got to Fort Union just ahead of Clay and his brother John, who were going after him. Uh-huh.
But then the guy, who the constable named
for doing the killing of the Reverend, had a hearing and said Mills and Longwell had nothing to do with it.
So they're all scout-free. That's good.
Smart. But he only said that
because they pointed a gun at him while he was being questioned.
Wait, Wait, who was questioning him?
The cops? The cops? And they were allowed to pull a gun on him? Answer the question?
Yeah, no, it's the mob. Okay, the mob was, and then he admitted to the mob at gunpoint.
Yeah. No, they didn't have nothing to do with it.
I don't know where anyone got that idea.
But anyway, Mills and Longville are the doctor and lawyer are clear. Right.
They're clear. Right.
So the gang doesn't believe that. They're like, that's fucking bullshit.
Right. Little gun story.
So he is, they take him back to jail and then there they shoot him and kill him.
I have a question about taking him back to jail.
Why? Why don't I take him to jail this year?
More official?
That guy was Mexican, by the way. And so now all the Mexican people in the area are pissed.
Okay.
And they want Clay dead.
And so now armed Mexican gangs are roaming looking for clay.
So the sheriff hides Clay at a ranch. Here.
And
when Clay finally comes back, he was packing a lot of guns and he has 45 cowboys with him. What the fuck? Yeah.
And he was just hidden in a ranch? No, yeah, but for a while. For a while.
Then he was like, oh, they got a crew. And now he's like, let's go get the Mexican.
And they're like, fuck yeah.
Which is what always happens. Yeah, I was going to say, like, part of it is that, like, we like you, but the other part is racism is something we're big fans of as well.
So it's in our blood.
So it's total fucking chaos. And there's a ringman and there's settler vigilantes and there's Mexicans.
Plus the Mexicans ask the Native Americans to help them out.
And the Reverend McCain's is recruiting more settlers to fight with Clay so everyone's fucking picking sides.
Guards have to be stationed at every entrance to the town and no one can leave without Clay's permission. Jesus Christ.
On November 9th, 1875, the Santa Fe, New Mexican wrote that Cimaron was in the hands of a mob. And this is what became known as the Colfax County War.
So now the governor.
My grandpa told me about a man.
Oh, now I know.
Oh,
Cimaron.
I thought it sounded familiar.
Yeah.
Yeah, clay. Clay.
That clay.
Ah,
yeah. Oh my god.
Wow.
I didn't know that's where this would go. I didn't either.
Wild. I wrote it.
Now the governor. Uh-huh.
Governor Axtel?
Yep.
So the governor officially makes Colfax part of Taos County.
Yeah, Taos County. Taos County.
Yeah,
Taos. It was...
Shut the fuck up.
You good ass, boy.
Sit you straight.
He says he's doing that because it's all about law and order, but he is a Santa Fe ring guy. So the people are fucking pissed.
And on January 19, 1876, the news and press paper wrote a harsh article about Clay leading mob violence. So that night, Clay and two guys broke into the paper's office.
Stop talking shit.
Set off a charge and threw the press into the river. Oh my God.
Fuck you. Wait.
Through the press? Yeah, the printing press. Okay.
Yeah, all the the press? Well, that's what I was picturing. All right, Laporas.
One at a time. All right, now where's this locked esmontor?
Get the chopper.
We need to be taken in. Absolutely, the wrong year.
Oh, no. Oh, look at that.
A bunch of moles. What?
What are they?
Moles.
Moles? Moles.
You know, blind ground rats. They can't sound word about why or why?
I was going to do a sound for them.
So you just brought them up randomly to do a mole sound?
Do a mole sound, yeah.
Upon further review,
probably don't know what they sound like to to the nearby.
Earth pigs.
Someone in here, someone listening right now is a mole. I don't know what a mole sounds like.
By the way. That's not a mole.
It's pretty much me.
I was.
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Okay, where are we?
So they throw everything into the river. The governor then said he, quote, intended to have Clay Allison indicted and punished or compelled to leave the county.
Said, death damn.
This limit's just the county. He's the governor.
You can make him leave the whole fucking.
What's happening? What's happening?
He's a classic Democrat. I'll show you.
You're granted for the weekend, mister.
And then they get into power. We're gonna exterminate you.
Wait, what? What? No, that is decorum. What the fuck?
Oh, shit.
On February 21st, he offered a $500 reward for Clay, saying he was, quote, guilty of the crime of murder in the killing of Charles Cooper.
Okay, so that's the guy that he rode off with on the horse after Chuck got killed. Oh.
And Cooper was charged. Oh, the one who went missing.
Yeah. Right.
We knew he killed him, but now he doesn't.
Of all the ones, he's like, I know, right? Cooper. That's the one.
He's like, Cooper?
I don't even think I murdered him.
He met a Native American woman and married her. Nah, I murdered Chunk.
Shut the fuck up. What the fuck? You call him Chunk?
Shouldn't you be allowed to kill a guy named Chunk?
Yes. Yes.
So
Cooper was a friend of that guy. Oh, good.
I was trying to explain that. So that was two years ago that Cooper disappeared.
Okay, so yeah, well that doesn't.
So in May the governor was passing through Simroon on the stagecoach and Clay gets in. Oh shit.
How Clay? I was just hoping to see you.
Oh!
I was just writing your pardon.
He rode with the governor all the way. Excuse me, my dad will be furious.
He rode with the governor all the way to Trinidad, Colorado, and Clay questioned him about trying to end his freedom and put him in jail.
And the governor asked Clay why he didn't just surrender and face trial like a man.
And Clay said if he thought it would be a fair trial, he would, but he wouldn't, quote, submit to a real trial in Taos County by greasers. So he's racist.
Oh.
I can't believe a guy who's in the Confederate Army is
non-progressive.
But who is he being racist against? Mexican. Okay.
Thank you.
I was picturing like John Travolta.
No, it's like, what does he even have against us?
We're just trying to fix cars.
What a crazy summer.
So the governor said he'd demand a fair trial, and a little while later Clay turned himself in.
And the trial was held and his defense was that there was nobody so
it was just an assumption he was dead and he was acquitted. I get it.
Yeah, that's not, you can't really...
He's happening somewhere else.
In December, Clay and his brother, John, crashed a social in Las Alamas, Colorado,
and they were very drunk.
And they forced some of the women to dance.
Oh, you like it? Get a dance.
Forcing to dance is also... Come on.
But like...
Jesus Christ. Yeah!
Now you did me.
Tango. Lambada.
Limbaugh!
Bunga!
A local deputy told them to remove their weapons and they refused. So the deputy, so he deputized two more guys.
I love that that ability to just do that. Yeah.
Hey, you, you, you're cops now.
Yeah, well, like, it's just the power to just be like, you three, cops. You two, also, cops.
Cops!
I'm the guy you were arresting. Oh, shit.
I'll deputize you. Oh, no.
You two, bad guys, also deputized.
Is that a spider web?
No, that's a mole.
Wait.
Can you shoot moles out of your hands?
Just keep reading.
You're so out of your element when it comes to hand mole stuff.
I believe it's called mole here, actually.
So the three deputies now walk back into the party and someone yells. Those two guys are pretty fucking cool with deputies.
We didn't do shit.
Someone yells, look out. John goes for his gun and the deputy shoots him in the chest and arm and then Clay shoots and kills the deputy.
That means we're no longer deputies because you killed the man who made us deputies.
Deputy law is very strange.
Much like vampire. Much like vampire coach.
You are now back to you are undeputized. Is this the deputy that sired you?
The deputy that sired you was past your wrecked or regular man.
Now you're the one who killed the deputy who was deputizing other new deputizer.
CBS, Thursday's the deputizer.
I didn't ask for this power.
You've got to deputize a boy.
John, come to bed. What are you doing? You're a deputy.
Oh, gosh.
Wow. I don't know.
This pilot's alone.
You're going to have to get that farming gun out of here.
So the deputy falls, because he's been shot and killed. And that causes, he falls down and his shotgun goes off, and his shotgun shoots John in the leg.
And the two newly deputized guys just run away. Yeah, I mean,
they didn't train us for this.
They didn't train us for anything. We were just getting drinks.
So Clay goes after them, but they got away. He comes back and he yells for a doctor.
You two are also doctors. Come on.
You're a nurse. You're a scalpel.
Get to you.
He pulls the deputy's body over to John and said, quotes, look here, John, this is the SOB that shot you. Everything's going to be alright.
You will be well soon.
I don't know how him dying helps.
You take his life force. No, he doesn't have any.
He doesn't have any.
He doesn't have any life force.
They're both arrested, but the charges would be dismissed on the grounds of self-defense. Okay.
And John recovers. Wow.
He was right. Yeah.
Now, Clay might have been tired of all the chaos. Sure.
So he sells his ranch on March 3rd, 1877, to John for $700,
and he goes to Hayes City, Kansas, where he settles down as a cattle broker.
Cattle broker? Yeah, she's a beautiful. Oh, Jesus Christ.
Is there anywhere to get meat around here?
Does anyone know of a place that holds meat?
I'm looking for city meat.
Do you have any meat that's mostly from the the city? Hello, I'm the Assurance Gent. I'm next door.
And I want to have a look over here.
I'm the meat maw. I'm upstairs.
The Surance Gent and Meat Maw don't get along.
We're finally having it out in the streets. You're Assurance Gent.
You're Assurance Gent.
That our powers combined.
They just form one big guy.
Me.
Meet ma!
For those of you listening, it's also not killing here.
Oh, this is from Legends of America, too.
Oh, you can see see him on there.
He was at this point very well known and feared all over the West. The papers always wrote when he visited Dodge City, about 100 miles away.
A local paper wrote, quote, his appearance is striking.
Tall, straight as an arrow, dark complexioned, carries himself with ease and grace, gentlemanly, and courteous of manner, never betraying by word or action the history of his eventful life.
Always naked. Got a ribbon around his nutshead.
Super weird. Likes to tuck it.
Walk backwards. He says, doesn't it remind you of Gonzo from the Muppets?
So Dodge City is obviously well known. Everybody knows Dodge City.
So Wyatt and Erp and all that shit. Cattlemen were often robbed and shot and beaten up.
And the cattlemen said the marshals were pimps and gamblers and saloon men.
So the law took cowboys' guns when they came to town.
And the Dodge Marshals had no problem shooting you if you got one through.
So it sounds like on one occasion Clay came to town with his crew and they went from saloon to saloon drinking as they do. Sure.
So you know clothes are coming off at some point.
Of course, absolutely.
And so White Earth and his marshals got ready.
But a big cattle owner who also owned a saloon got involved and talked Clay's gang in hanging over their guns, which stopped an inevitable shootout with the White Earth gang.
So in 1880, 1880, Clay moved to Hemphill County, Texas, next door to his brother-in-law,
Lewis, and they had ranches, and there were often reports of the nonsense that Clay was up to. He's still doing the bullshit.
So sure enough, he rode nude through the streets, yelling that he was buying drinks at the saloon. We're good.
And the sheriff told Clay to get off his horse. But he spurred it to speed up and rode down Main Street.
It's awesome that he's wearing the boots.
It's a great look.
Then he got off, pointed his gun at the sheriff. So he's also holding his gun naked.
Holding his gun, holding his gun while riding naked with spurs on.
Hey, you stop that. He got off, he pointed his gun at the sheriff and told him to go to the bar.
And then he made the sheriff drink until he couldn't stand, and then he rode off.
That's pretty good.
I mean, I'd rather that than what we're dealing with now with cops. That's like, just like if you could just fill them full of whiskey, be like, ah, yeah.
You bit of a clown.
In October 1833, he sold his ranch, and he and Dora moved to the Seven Rivers. I can't believe him and Dora made it.
Place, just place.
As if she could leave.
You mean because he's so appealing.
They moved to the Seven Rivers region in New Mexico, and on August 9th, 1885, they had a daughter, Patty Dora. In the summer of 1886, he finished a cattle drive to Cheyenne, Wyoming.
He had a toothache, though, and he went to a local dentist. Oh, no.
That guy's going to die. Yeah.
Called a cabin. Like, fuck it is.
The dentist was scared shitless because it was Clay Allison. And as he started working, Clay realized it was the wrong tooth and bolted out of the office and went to find a different dentist.
That dentist managed to pull the correct tooth. And after Clay went back to the first dentist and held him down in the chair and pulled a molar with a pair of four sides.
Well, how do you teach him a lesson?
How does he learn?
Wow.
That's fucking great revenge. I'm not going to lie.
Just on like a base level,
that's pretty great.
Also, how the fuck, like, wouldn't you be like, no, that one doesn't hurt? He's like, this one?
So then he started. His next dentist was like, I'm pretty sure it's this one.
Get it red.
So then he started trying to pull a second molar, and the dentist was screaming. Oh, the fuck these.
Oh, my God.
One's plenty. I'm going to take your wisdom teeth out.
Otherwise, they're going to get all janky up front.
You'll thank me later.
So the dentist was screaming, and a bunch of men came running and pulled clay off the dentist. But obviously no punishment.
They were like, all right, thanks for coming to town.
Do you want to book your next appointment?
The Allisons moved once more to Pecos, Texas,
50 miles south of the New Mexico border. On July 1st, 1887, Clay was taking supplies on a wagon
to his ranch when a big sack of grain fell. Clay tried to stop it, but ended up falling off the wagon, and the wheels of the wagon rolled over Clay and broke his neck.
Can you do that to the tune of the wheels on the bus go round?
And the wheels on the wagon went over clay. Over clay,
over clay. And then the wheels on the wagon went over clay.
He died from grain.
Do you think of all the fucking shit this dude went through? A bag of grain killed him?
A fucking bag of grain. Did you get the fuck up, big grain? He was like shooting it.
The grain of the lovely bad man.
And then cut to him as a little boy. His dad takes his last breath.
And he looks at his father, whose head falls on a bag of grain.
And Clay goes, I hate you, Grain.
And then the grain made that classic grain sound.
So when he falls
and the wagon rolls over, it breaks his neck, then the horse is reared up and this caused the wagon, which was almost just like a seat on a board,
it almost decapitates him basically.
Broke a neck and then almost decapitated on top of it. I love the horse.
It's like, back up, do we get
a sword? One One more.
I've won the horse, you son of a little bitch.
You fucking broke people.
Mexican horses from South Africa. Oh, okay, okay.
I'm getting a little bit of a backup. Do you know what? They were playing the long game.
Are you talking to me or not? Yes!
Feels like you were. Okay, sorry.
He had died 40 miles outside of Pegos and he was 47. Wow.
That is a rough 47, bro.
He's probably like 43 there or something.
Oh, Wowie.
Jesus Christ.
Apparently, hundreds of people went to his funeral, and his second daughter, Clay Pearl Clay, was born seven months after. Pearl Clay? Pearl Clay.
Seven months after he died. And Dora ended up getting remarried.
She did? Yeah.
She's only 20 or whatever.
I mean, she's literally 25, so she's...
Cool, that's awesome. He's dead.
That was crazy. Now I can pick someone.
Sources, Legends of America.
Ah, I remember.
Clay Allison, Portrait of a Shooter by Chuck Parsons.
A Sudden Death in Simmer Room by Philip Rush and the Ford County Historical Society.
And the Ribbon Cock. And the Ribbon Cock.
Ribboncock's going to come back. Yeah.
I'm tired. Run the old man's cock.
Wow, lucky name. Those are your people.
Yeah.
Wow, that was a lot of murder.
That's a lot of murder. That's a lot of murder.
A lot of murder.
All justified.
It's crazy how many Confederates and stuff moved to the West and just started doing
same racist shit here.
I don't have help.
So what happens when you go around and talk to that area? Now that
I think that was the Mohlberg.
What the fuck did you do?
Mollberg.
Oh, fuck. Um, well, we should probably get out of here'cause we do have a second show, right? What time is the second show at? Uh ten.
Eight minutes.
Oh.
Wait, is that clock wrong? Yeah,
that's fucking hilarious.
They're for us.
You're like, yep, we've been watching it the whole time.
Well, I'll tell you what, we drove around today, and Daylight Savings was like, we actually don't work here. So
the fucking clocks are going backwards. It's like we were in a dolly painting.
We were like, wait, what time is it? We lost a half an hour ago. Yeah.
They were like, you're on time. Arizona doesn't really.
Arizona does Hawaiian time. So,
fuck it.
But well, we have another show next. We're doing an old story, but we really don't remember shit from it.
So, if you're so inclined, stick around. If not, appreciate y'all coming out.
Thank you guys very much. Enjoy the rest of the day.
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