E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions

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Speaker 1 What's going on, everybody? Welcome back to another episode of the Vile Files Reality Recap Edition. I'm your host, Nick.
We got the household here.

Speaker 1 Obviously, I think we should start this episode by acknowledging these terrible fires that we have here in LA.

Speaker 1 It's affecting, I mean, we got Sierra's living in a hotel right now, and thousands of homes sadly have been burned down. It's crazy.
The skies here now in Los Angeles are full of smoke and clouds.

Speaker 1 It's a very terrifying situation. Thankfully, we are okay right now, and the rest of the household seems to be okay, but it was a very scary situation.

Speaker 1 And obviously, our thoughts and prayers go out to everyone. Scary situation.

Speaker 2 It is very scary. It is 0% contained as of this morning, and it just keeps going and going, and more fires keep starting.
And all of

Speaker 2 PCH basically was on fire last night. The Palisades village is completely burned to the ground.
It's very sad. It's like, I just, it's,

Speaker 2 I can't believe it's, it's real. I mean, it's just, it's heartbreaking.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I mean, it's, it's, I've lived in LA for

Speaker 1 what, 10, 11 years now or something like that. There's been a couple years where there's been like days where it's just like, holy shit, there's a lot of fires.

Speaker 1 This seems to be worse than I can remember.

Speaker 2 It's also very close to home. Like, I was staring outside my hotel window, and I could see the mountains over Burbank catching on fire, and it's just kind of like when did you have to leave?

Speaker 2 Like, what? My power was out since 8 a.m. yesterday.

Speaker 2 So, after work, when I got home around like five or six, and realizing we still have no power, and I need Wi-Fi and food and whatnot, so we packed up our car, our dog, and we are now staying at a hotel.

Speaker 1 Do you know?

Speaker 2 Last update that we got about power said 24 to 48 hours. So I'll be staying there again tonight and possibly tomorrow night.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 2 I don't think this is a normal fire season either.

Speaker 1 Like this is clearly

Speaker 2 we usually get Santa Ana winds at the end of August, September, and that's usually when our fire season is.

Speaker 2 This is very unique for it to be happening in January, but I've never even seen winds in California going 60, 80, 100 miles an hour.

Speaker 1 That was crazy last night.

Speaker 3 Yeah, they couldn't drop any water on the fires last night because they literally couldn't get any like planes up because of the wind.

Speaker 1 It was couldn't fly helicopters, couldn't do planes at night.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 1 it's a terrible situation.

Speaker 2 The fire just raged all night.

Speaker 1 Well, obviously, we are thinking of all those affected, you know, whatever you can do to support.

Speaker 2 Also, I think it's people are doing a very good job of evacuating when our officials say that their area needs to evacuate.

Speaker 2 And I am just, I'm grateful that people are listening to officials when they say to evacuate. And I just think continue until, you know, this is contained.

Speaker 1 Very sad. It is sad.

Speaker 2 There's no way to segue from that on the bottom.

Speaker 1 No way to segue from that. So anyways, we'll kick off the show now.
I haven't eaten in 36 hours,

Speaker 1 so that's fun.

Speaker 1 I started a water fast. I'm not recommending it to anyone.
This is not some sort of do this with me, but it is a, are you what? Whatever it was. I have a question.

Speaker 1 I'm raising my hand.

Speaker 2 Why?

Speaker 1 It's supposed to be really healthy for you. It's supposed to decrease your chance of cancer.
It's supposed to be really good for like inflammation.

Speaker 1 It's supposed to be good for like decreasing your chance of like Alzheimer's and things like that. It just has a lot of ben, you know, health benefits to like occasionally fast.

Speaker 2 And how long does this last?

Speaker 1 My mom did it first.

Speaker 1 I think the original one is like a seven-day fast where you just drink water and like bone broth and electrolytes. Uh, I'm on 36 hours.

Speaker 1 My goal is four days. My goal is like 80-some hours.

Speaker 2 I'm also suffering because he's been nothing but a bitch that holds on to me.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 2 I was going to ask, he's the hangriest person I've ever been around. He's so mad.

Speaker 2 He's so angry and i'm like you can stop whenever you fucking want last night in bed i'm like do you want me to bowl you some eggs because this is insane like you are being you are being mean to me not even fussy just mean just mean and it's because you're hungry and i understand i would also be mean because i am mean when i'm hungry but this is like intense hunger like yeah you really don't have to do this you really don't and it's like and then he keeps complaining and i'm like you can't complain when this was your you're doing it was a tough first night it was a tough first night and i was fine that sounds like a and then i

Speaker 2 and then i i'm clearly still eating you know like i have to feed river like make so then i'm nick's the cook of the family i can't cook for shit so like i'm also suffering because i'm not eating good food like last night you had a very nice meal yes i made river some pasta with some sauce and some broccoli and so i had pasta

Speaker 1 broccoli i made pasta last night you know it was very easy to

Speaker 1 cook pasta and pour some sauce over it yeah i have a favorable less name other than mean, so it's less quotable for like Nick was mean to me over a hunger fast.

Speaker 3 Nick Vile,

Speaker 2 uh, grumpy, grumpy, just saying over

Speaker 1 water fast.

Speaker 1 I don't mean

Speaker 1 this isn't hangry. I'm fine with hangry.

Speaker 2 You are, you're very hangry.

Speaker 1 Breaking news, Nick is hangry. Mean, mean, and hangry are two completely different headlines.

Speaker 1 Page six reports.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're hanging life. Nick Vile, Nick Vile.

Speaker 3 Hangry after days-long water fast by his choice.

Speaker 2 Incredibly water fast. Very,

Speaker 2 very hangry.

Speaker 2 Like the most hangry I've ever seen anyone

Speaker 2 to walk the planet Earth.

Speaker 1 I'm delightful right now.

Speaker 2 That's why I'm shocked. That's why I'm like, of course.

Speaker 1 Yeah. No, last night sucked hard.

Speaker 1 Nothing. Just water.
No substances, no nothing.

Speaker 2 Was it because you could smell like food being cooked and you were like angry and you couldn't partake?

Speaker 1 They said like that first 24 hours, it's tough. I honestly, at times I felt like, oh,

Speaker 1 you know, and I felt really weak and tired. It was like 7.30.
I'm like, can we go to bed?

Speaker 2 I do feel like I was a good wife when I did make myself a cup of coffee yesterday morning and you asked, how was it? And I said it was awful.

Speaker 1 She did. Yeah.
So you're not missing a thing. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You know, it's fasting's supposed to be a good. I needed a cleanse.
I've been really eating way too much sugar lately these days.

Speaker 1 And I think my diet has relatively been not like where I feel like it could be be or should be. It's the new year, I figured, fuck it, why not? Let's try it.
If my mom can do it, why can't I?

Speaker 1 You know, did you finish those candies I bought you? Oh my god. Oh my god, I fucking crushed those.
They're gone. Are there more? Oh my god, I finished those.

Speaker 1 I had to make myself

Speaker 1 save the second pack. The two containers are gone.
The first, the first one was gone before I got home. The second one, I was like, I'll wait till tomorrow to finish it.
And then I just crushed them.

Speaker 1 Was that the am I supposed to?

Speaker 1 They are hard to find.

Speaker 1 And it's true.

Speaker 1 Are you offended over and preserved them I was just I was just like just so you know but it's if they're gone they're kind of gone but also Justin what should piss you off even more about him eating those is that he doesn't suck on them he just immediately chews them

Speaker 2 so like there is no savor of anything once the sour is gone you have it's the same with cough drops which I feel like defeats the purpose of a cough drop yeah thank you because the lozenge is while you suck it and you swallow and I haven't eaten 36 hours and you guys are just trashing me.

Speaker 1 I think you're in your Gwyneth Paltrow era, and I'm here for it. Oh my god, my phone broth era.
This is this is this is this is a temporary fast. Do not take my health recommendations.

Speaker 1 I'm doing this for me. I don't need feedback from any of you listening.

Speaker 1 Um,

Speaker 1 good or bad.

Speaker 3 Hey, hey, hey, you in the comments. Let us know what you think about Nick's fast

Speaker 1 and how he's doing it wrong. Yeah,

Speaker 1 yeah, Anyways,

Speaker 1 Nikki Glazer, you know, once again, crushing life. What a change of pace from last year after Joe Coy.
Yeah, bombed.

Speaker 2 I wonder how he's feeling after that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he can't be feeling Nikki Glazer getting a little bit more. He should have.

Speaker 3 I mean, it was a week of people just being like, that was the worst Golden Globes I've ever seen his entire writing staff under the bus and just expected the room to be with him. It's like, this

Speaker 1 crazy. Anyways, Nikki crushed.
Everyone can't stop talking about it.

Speaker 2 She just signed a three-year deal with the Golden Globes.

Speaker 1 I think she actually signed a three-year deal before she hosted and how it worked. Like, I bet, Joe.
I bet he also signed a three-year deal. No, that's how it worked.
You know,

Speaker 1 actually, interesting enough of the story we used. That's how they signed like a deal being like the networks or whatever.

Speaker 2 Do you want to start that over? Yeah, what are you saying? You started like five sentences and didn't finish one of them.

Speaker 1 He's got fluid in his brain. Give him a brain.
I know.

Speaker 1 No, I think she already signed a three-year deal before she hosted the first time. I think that's how they normally do it.

Speaker 1 Networks, for example, they have, you know, if they're going to let Nikki Glazier host, you know, it's like, hey, we'll give you a shot. If you do well, we will annew you.

Speaker 1 I think it was reported she made like $400,000, $300,000 this year. Next two seasons, she'll make drastically more.
So it's like, do a good job here.

Speaker 1 And now I think she is signed on for two more seasons. Well, deadline specifically said Nikki was paid a bit more than $400,000 for her inaugural Gold's hosting stint.

Speaker 1 That fee will rise significantly, a well-placed source says, if and when Glazier comes back to host the 83rd annual Golden Globes for the third year in the five-year deal the Golden Globes has with CBS.

Speaker 1 Interesting. Yeah, so I think it's like you sign a deal and they have like renewal options.
Right.

Speaker 3 I got to say that, like, Nikki did great, but I do have to say CBS could

Speaker 1 maybe do a little bit better job on the stream next year.

Speaker 3 That's all.

Speaker 2 I was wondering why their angles of the presenters was so off.

Speaker 1 It was weird.

Speaker 3 And then also instead of showing clips from like the actual work that they did that got nominated, they decided to do like live location tags of everyone.

Speaker 3 Like, I don't need to know where they're like air tagging.

Speaker 1 Did you guys also feel like it seemed like some of the presenters when they went up there, like the producers said, just be weird, say weird shit. It kind of felt like they were all.

Speaker 2 They did a weird bit of like, what are you doing here?

Speaker 1 No, but they've seen those before and they seem to have land more in the past. And some of them, it was just more like, what is going on?

Speaker 3 I just think NBC knows how to have a live event.

Speaker 1 And CBS,

Speaker 3 sorry.

Speaker 3 Period.

Speaker 1 sorry is this a live okay all right um that's just um nbc

Speaker 2 you know where to find me well uh justin beldoni's lawyer leaked a voice memo yesterday as much as y'all want us to stop talking about this i also want to stop talking about it just to let everyone know but unfortunately it is just he keeps running his mouth

Speaker 1 yeah they're just his lawyers his lawyer's out there fighting the fight in the court of public opinion so you know we really when we we cover the headlines yeah so anyways uh his his lawyer released a voice memo uh and it's justin talking about the night of the premiere and in his very uh soft voice and his very

Speaker 1 kind of he's he's talking about how he was put in a basement is he having a conversation with someone or is it unclear exclusively justin baldoni speaking to um what he called his dream team lamenting the fact that he was put in the basement on the premiere of his own movie he says per blake's demands could have been one of the most beautiful nights of my life career-wise.

Speaker 4 I literally was sent to the basement with my whole, all my friends and family for over an hour. I wasn't allowed to be seen.

Speaker 1 She didn't want me anywhere near her or the rest of the cast. You could start laughing.

Speaker 2 How do we know he didn't do this this morning?

Speaker 1 Well, yeah.

Speaker 1 He sent a voice note to somebody.

Speaker 2 They're just playing some recording that he recorded at some point in his life one day. There's like no fucking time.
There's no proof of when that was.

Speaker 2 And it's like, she held you hostage in a basement, basement, tied your arms around a pole with zip ties and was like, do not leave this basement or I will kill you. Like that just.

Speaker 3 My movie premiere got taken away from me and I had to go to the basement.

Speaker 1 That's what I was like.

Speaker 1 Why didn't Blake and the rest of the cast want you buy them for the premiere? I think those are just questions people aren't asking.

Speaker 5 I also have a question about voice notes in general. When you send one, doesn't it usually disappear unless somebody keeps the voice note?

Speaker 1 Correct, yes.

Speaker 5 So why would they keep this voice note?

Speaker 3 I will say, I keep voice notes, sure,

Speaker 1 not every voice note.

Speaker 1 Yeah, some people keep them, but yeah, I mean, listen, you're right.

Speaker 1 Like, either way, I think to your point, Leia, it's just like, you know, his team's talked about releasing a bunch of messages potentially. I am, like I said, I said this on Tuesday.

Speaker 1 I am certain that most of the stuff that Justin sends or out there sounds lovely and very nice. You, you see him talking in this voice memo, and he's got this soft, you know, voice.

Speaker 1 And he calls himself an artist i honestly believe that he probably be who knows what i don't even know what i was saying are you trying to say that he believes that this is true yeah i yeah i i don't know if justin believes his version of the story i think he has a god complex i think a lot of the times when

Speaker 3 in situations like these both parties completely believe their the narrative that they're spinning and the truth often usually lies somewhere in the middle.

Speaker 1 Obviously, every single situation is different, but reality versus perspective are two different things and i think his perspective to him is absolutely correct yeah for sure i'm sure he thinks that yeah but yeah i mean i what are some of the other things that are people who are defending justin saying i mean i know a lot of people are resurfacing like old promotional assets like movie posters and like digital media posts that basically saying like pointing out the fact that justin's not in

Speaker 1 well that's ultimately a sony decision and maybe people are out there saying Well, Blake influenced them, but ultimately, again, Sony's making that decision.

Speaker 1 And I guess my response to that is, again, if these accusations about Justin's behavior are true, what would you do? Like, how would you respond? How would you handle it?

Speaker 1 I would separate myself from him.

Speaker 5 I think with the lawsuit in general, like everybody has opinions and people are voicing their opinions. And at the end of the day, we're all just going to have to wait to see how this plays out.

Speaker 5 Because from my perspective, at least, like, I'm not going to be sold on text messages and screenshots because there are also so many conversations that happened outside of those.

Speaker 5 And so I think that it's going to be years before any, I think both sides think that they're right. And it's going to be years before anybody gets to the bottom of this.

Speaker 5 And like people have their opinions, but it's really just going to be like, I don't know, we need to be patient and like really watch how this plays out.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I'm going to need something more than like a voice note that's already like what's being said in the voice note was already released in the lawsuit or the complaint that I'm like, this is not like new evidence.

Speaker 2 You're just trying to grasp at straws to like pull at heartstrings. But I'm like, that's not a conversation that's being had.
It's a voice note that you recorded.

Speaker 5 A lot of people comment specifically on the pumping text message. Yeah.
And how like that's a slam dunk.

Speaker 5 And I'm like, in what world is one text message from Blake saying that you can come into her trailer while she's pumping a slam dunk?

Speaker 2 It's like, I want to set the stage for the people who think that's a slam dunk. Like you start working at a dentist's office and you're the receptionist and you have to, you know, you just had a baby.

Speaker 2 You have to keep going to the break room every so often to pump for 20 minutes. And the head dentist is a man and he, you know, you're trying to build that.
that rapport.

Speaker 2 You're trying to like stay professional, you know, maybe he needs to come into the break room. You're like, oh, sure, come on in.
Like, I'm just pumping. It's fine.
I'm covered. Whatever.
Come on in.

Speaker 2 He comes in. And then from then on out, he just starts coming in without asking you.
He doesn't even knock anymore.

Speaker 2 Now he's like sitting in front of, he's like, starts to make you feel uncomfortable and awkward.

Speaker 2 And now you're like, okay, well, I was like, okay, with it that one time when I invited you, but now like it's getting really fucking weird.

Speaker 2 And like, you just keep showing up and you won't leave the room. And like, it's, I'm, I, I have to take these pumps off and like my nipple might show.

Speaker 2 Like, no one's like, there's just like, I just don't understand how like it happened one time.

Speaker 2 We have proof of her inviting him in her trailer one time while she's pumping, and people are like, Oh my god, see, she's a fucking liar. He never, he never overstepped any boundaries.

Speaker 1 Wasn't it the accusation more about breastfeeding than pumping?

Speaker 2 In Blake's, it was breastfeeding, yeah, which are two completely different things.

Speaker 1 You can, I mean, as someone who, you know, whose wife just had a baby was pumping, you can wear a sports bra and put the pumps underneath and a chunky sweater, and like you wouldn't even know anything's going on other than hearing a

Speaker 1 once in a while. Like, you can do it pretty discreetly.
Breastfeeding, much different. You know, yeah.
And so, yeah, they're not even the same. But Nally made a great, great point.

Speaker 5 We're not saying that Justin, that this happened, but we're just saying that it is possible that this happened. And like, I mean, I pump at work and like.

Speaker 5 If I'm all set up and everything is like good and I'm covered, it's like, sure, somebody can come in and I'll text somebody. Yeah, come in, let's talk.
Let's have a conversation.

Speaker 5 I do that with Sierra and Allison and all the time. I'm just like, okay, yeah, I'm set up.
Come in.

Speaker 1 I couldn't imagine if one time you were like, yeah, I'm pumping. It's cool.
And then going forward, every time someone's like, yeah, Leia's pumping in the other room, I just walked in

Speaker 1 without ever just checking in or knocking on the door.

Speaker 1 It's the same as like, yeah, like someone's, the door's closed, you knock, oh, you can come in. The next time it's closed, you're just like, I don't need to knock this time.
We're comfortable. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Right. I don't know.
I mean, I think obviously people who are supporting Justin are going to support Justin, you know, for me.

Speaker 2 I don't think their opinions are going to be swayed just like my opinion of Justin is not going to be swayed.

Speaker 1 You're absolutely right. But if you're having a hard time even considering Blake's allegations, like I'm just more back to like Emily said, just ask the questions, like, what's the motivation?

Speaker 1 A lot of people are speculating, oh, the motivation is she wanted to take over the project and then secure her rights to like doing the other movies. That's just like fan theory, as far as I know.

Speaker 1 Is there any been reports that Blake had any interest in doing then? I know Justin on the red carpet, like, there's certainly no.

Speaker 3 There were a lot of rumors about in the way that like every single situation in Hollywood just turns into like a massive pile of rumors about whatever is going on.

Speaker 3 I think the most interesting thing about this case from like a public perspective is honestly Bethany Frankel had a TikTok about it where she was.

Speaker 1 Bethany Franklin is the same lawyer as Justin Baldoni.

Speaker 3 She does. She was like, it is very, there are two different cases going on.
There is the case the lawyers are fighting. Sure.

Speaker 3 There's the and there's the case the publicists are fighting in the public opinion. I think public opinion is really what's like the core of this as far as the legal battle is going to go one way.

Speaker 1 Justin's lawyer is doing every talk show imaginable, you know, and his also client Bethany is out there like giving commentary on this.

Speaker 3 Well, Bethany's giving commentary.

Speaker 2 And didn't he, wasn't he Megan Kelly's attorney at one point?

Speaker 2 It's like he's reaching out to all of his clients being like, let's use your platform.

Speaker 1 I don't know if he was.

Speaker 3 He is definitely like a media.

Speaker 1 He's a media lawyer.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 I just think it's

Speaker 1 like the other side's handling it very differently.

Speaker 2 It is usually the people who are more loud who

Speaker 2 try to like prove their right. You know, it's like the people who are like, I'm just going to sit back and like do all this shit like the right fucking way.
And I don't know.

Speaker 2 That's the people I have more respect for. And he like, I don't, it's just, it also, he just is continuing.
Like, I don't know what happened.

Speaker 2 Obviously, I wasn't there, but it's like he is just continuing to take down the woman, which is like everything he stands against.

Speaker 3 The PR narrative of this case is that Justin's team is claiming that by the New York Times publishing this lawsuit, that Blake is in turn like enacting a public smear campaign against him.

Speaker 3 So it's literally just him accusing her of doing the exact same thing she did.

Speaker 1 Like he did to her.

Speaker 3 He's flipping it. It just like kind of doesn't make any sense.
I guess

Speaker 2 my question would be, Ryan is a billionaire.

Speaker 1 Blake is. He's not.
I don't think he's a lot of money. Well, a lot of money.
A lot of money and power and influence.

Speaker 2 That I'm like, the buzz about all of this has died down, and she still filed a case against him. She doesn't need the money.
She doesn't need to win something over in the court of public opinion.

Speaker 2 So I'm like, she clearly feels passionate enough to go forward with filing a complaint against him based off of just, I feel like, the moral corruptness of like what happened on that set.

Speaker 1 And Justin's co-host, Liz Plank, friend of show, we've had her on, one of my first guests a long time ago.

Speaker 1 She, again, unfouled him, publicly removed herself from the show. And I think it's really interesting when you think about it.

Speaker 1 Again, Justin's whole platform presumably is about, again, highlighting and using your privilege as a man to uplift and spotlight women.

Speaker 1 But when you look at it, it was Liz Plank who did that for Justin. In fact, she has been like in the driver's seat.
She has a great book called The For the Love of Man.

Speaker 1 She talks a lot about positive masculinity and things like that.

Speaker 1 And so when she started the podcast with Justin, it was her who gave Justin a lot of the credibility in this space that he made his entire brand about. And now she is separating herself from him.

Speaker 1 And then you look at it, it's just like, well, what women has Justin elevated? Liz elevated Justin.

Speaker 1 What specific women has he elevated?

Speaker 2 We don't know shit about his wife. We don't know any of that about it.
Maybe that's a personal preference on her end.

Speaker 1 Maybe she wants to lay low, but it seems weird. I don't even know if she's been a guest on his podcast.
You know, it's just, I don't know. It always seems a bit off.

Speaker 1 And that's, and again, I've met him. I had him on the show.
I had an opinion based off of my interaction with him. It felt disingenuous, just an opinion, but this all kind of tracks.

Speaker 1 What doesn't track is I just, to everyone, like Sierra and Natalie and everyone in the room are suggesting it's just like, again, you have to assume Blake, a mother of four who just had her fourth child, is picking or choosing the messiest possible way to fight this battle when history has shown us that Ryan and Blake have been pretty private, pretty unproblematic, pretty low-key, and for a producer credit, you know, and again, like, even if Blake wasn't.

Speaker 3 An executive producer credit, which is like everyone knows is kind of just like meaningless?

Speaker 1 Meaningless. Yeah.
It just doesn't add up, you know? So we'll see, as always, but you know, he came out with the leaked voice note. I know a lot of people are like, what about this?

Speaker 1 Here we are addressing it.

Speaker 1 Thank you. It doesn't sound for me, if y'all were wondering.

Speaker 2 Probably aren't.

Speaker 1 Just ask yourself common sense questions, I feel like.

Speaker 2 But anyways. Other things that I am not a fan of would be Allison Holker writing a tell-a-memoir about her.

Speaker 1 Tough story. We had Allison on about a year ago.
We've met her a couple times. Lovely person.
Nothing but nice. But this story broke.
It's the cover of People magazine.

Speaker 1 It's a picture of her kind of glam shot. And then like this kind of dark black and white picture of her deceased.

Speaker 2 husband twitch he was hiding so much addiction depression childhood abuse maybe Maybe I just feel personally about this, but I'm like, yes, it's your husband, but I don't feel like that's your information to share.

Speaker 2 It's one thing if you want to write a memoir about your life and like your interaction with him, but like exposing him post-death of addiction and abuse, I feel like that's just, it makes me feel it's icky.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's uh it also says on the cover of People magazine after the beloved Ellen DeGeneres show star died by suicide in 2022, Holker discovered he was battling scary demons, how she navigated her shock and grief, protected their three kids, and is healing with a new love.

Speaker 1 Babe, if I die and you find some mushrooms in a plastic bag, can you just let it go?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I probably don't feel like I need River to read that in a magazine one day.

Speaker 1 Right. Yeah.
It's a tough one.

Speaker 1 I don't know what her motives are.

Speaker 2 It's one thing to know. It's one thing to know that your father struggled with mental illness and sadly committed suicide.

Speaker 2 And then it's another to like have your mom air out that he was like addicted to drugs and she found all these drugs in the closet and like all of his scary demons she's airing out.

Speaker 2 That should be his choice and he's not here to say so.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Can you look? Who is Courtney Ann Platt?

Speaker 5 She's a dancer. She's calling out Allison Holker over classless interview and memoir.

Speaker 1 So yeah, she posted Allison's post, The People magazine. She writes, anyone who knows me knows I go straight to the source during a conflict and handle my business.

Speaker 1 But since there's clearly no shame in being so public, I haven't said a word in two years, but here I go. I was there the moment you both connected.
I was there the day you got engaged.

Speaker 1 I stood by your side on your wedding day. So clearly this is a close friend of Allison and Twitch.

Speaker 1 It's a very long message, but the one most surprising, I don't know if it's true, but she's saying that Allison made Twitch's entire family, including Twitch's mom, sign an NDA to attend his funeral.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 2 I don't know how you how do you look a mother in her eyes after her son has just died and say, you can come in, but first sign this

Speaker 2 agreement and you can't talk about it. And then you publish a book about it because she doesn't want anybody to be able to refute what's in the book, yeah.

Speaker 2 But yeah, but like it was just weird and sad, it's really sad, and obviously, it's a touchy subject.

Speaker 2 Like, I've never been in this position, you know, and it's like I don't know how I would navigate it.

Speaker 2 I don't think this is the way I would navigate it, but I obviously can't speak until I'm in that position.

Speaker 2 But it does, and she was, she was very lovely when we met her, and she's been through so much. She's got these young kids.
There is just something about this that that feels wrong.

Speaker 2 And I just know that I wouldn't want River to have to read about her dad.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think she's out there saying she wants to help people and she wants to spread awareness. And yeah, I guess, but at what cost?

Speaker 1 You know, like, I don't know if it's coming from a place of wanting to like a hero complex or I don't know, or maybe she's convincing herself of that.

Speaker 1 But again, like at what cost at the memory of your husband who has passed and your children who want to have a good memory of their father. I think there's other ways to,

Speaker 1 I don't even know what message she's.

Speaker 2 I mean, he like wrote in his journal about like things that happened to him as a kid. And she's like talking about that in this, which feels wrong also.
The gross thing is how he died.

Speaker 2 Everybody has a very positive outlook when it comes to Twitch. He was a really great TV personality on The Ellen Show.
He brought smiles to people's faces.

Speaker 2 It was very shocking as to like how he passed and to add this to his name and this is what he's going to be remembered for.

Speaker 1 like that's that to me just rubs me the wrong way entirely and i think it's very disrespectful to her ex-husband or to her past husband this has been out for a day and it's still all over instagram and you know usually when you get a bad reaction you like start you turn off comments and the comments are they're out there and people are commenting and commenting and it's i imagine she is doing what feels right to her yeah for sure you know so which is you know it's it's just it's weird because like we know her and we've and we had a lovely interaction and it's just like had i not had the benefit of knowing allison and getting to know her i think my reaction would be far more harsh and far more like just shocked and now i'm just trying to like connect the dots between like the person i got to meet and versus like yeah you know and i agree with you i think her intentions i'm sure are i hope i don't know it's weird it's weird yeah it's it makes me feel weird at best tacky yeah to quote court meet this is by far the most tacky classless opportunistic act i've ever seen in my entire life.

Speaker 2 And the fact that the entire, anybody who attended his funeral had to sign an NDA, including her.

Speaker 3 That's the real thing.

Speaker 2 His brother also spoke out.

Speaker 1 Do we have that quote?

Speaker 3 Twitch's brother, Dre, shared Courtney's post to his... Instagram story, adding, no lies told.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. So he just confirmed Courtney's message.

Speaker 3 He also reposted an Instagram story by Katie Paulson, who called Allison, quote, a disgrace and despicable human to do this to a grieving family. So that comes from Twitch's brother.
Wow.

Speaker 2 Well, I feel like it, it maybe is hurting more than helping more. I don't know.

Speaker 1 And it just kind of feels icky because obviously, I'm assuming she's monetizing the memoir. It's not like she's.

Speaker 3 Yeah, and the book just came. It just, it feels like.

Speaker 1 I don't know. It's a tough story.

Speaker 3 The most cynical view of it is that she's using her husband's suicide and

Speaker 1 to sell her book.

Speaker 2 Because I know who Twitch is. I don't know who Allison Holt is.

Speaker 3 I have never heard of her before today.

Speaker 1 I mean, she was on Dancing with the Stars and had a very great or has a great dancing career. There's a variety of dance competition shows on network television.
I think she's been on a few of them.

Speaker 1 She's successful outside of her show. Yeah, she is very successful outside of her show.

Speaker 1 I mean, Twitch was definitely more famous and she was most known for being Twitch's wife, but she has her own individual, very successful career.

Speaker 1 Speaking of potentially attacky, which I don't think so, Lindsay Hubbard is responding to accusations that her birthing announcement, well, not even birthing announcement, her

Speaker 1 pregnancy announcement. She monetized it, had a little campaign, and people are upset about that.

Speaker 2 It's so fucking weird. It's like you use the clear blue digital test anyways.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 2 they didn't have to pay her to go to the store and get the one good digital test at the store.

Speaker 1 This is not the same as like making like your eight and nine and seven-year-old do a bunch of skits so you can be like influencer parents and you two parents.

Speaker 1 This is like a little if you could get paid for taking a pregnancy test. Great.
Why not? Please.

Speaker 3 If my mom said I said she did that, I would have been like, hell yeah, put that on my college tuition.

Speaker 1 Like, I'll just go for it.

Speaker 2 I was post a photo of a pregnancy test where I'm like, I would do a lot more for a lot less. And she got $100,000 for that.

Speaker 1 Come on now. Not specifically for that.
So she got over $100,000 for like a year of partnerships. Copy that.
Centered around

Speaker 1 her pregnancy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, which, yeah, good for her. Get it.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 It's so weird when people are like, how dare you make money off influencing? And it's like, I don't know.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 5 it's for a free clear blue test

Speaker 1 yeah I think listen I you know people are very sensitive around kids I mean Nelly and I continue to have conversations about like how much or how little should we share about river it's just like now we're more like posting like the back of our head and stuff and sure we still you know it's like we don't know the right answers we're cognizant of it there's obviously a lot of opinions out there you know I think that's where it comes from you know we have strong opinions about like we know what it's like to record an ad or we know what it's like to record content we know what it's like to have to do it over and over and over again so every time we see like parent influencers and like young kids or like teenage kids like playing syncing or something

Speaker 1 you know that took so many you know that took so many take you know what i'm saying and where you have to be like no it's not take it it's take that okay so try that okay and that's our opinion but other people might disagree but you know i think it comes from a place of like parents and kids and there's just a lot of i think strong feelings in that in that department but pop off lindsey hubbard like get your pregnancy pregnancy money amen i just i think pregnancy that's it i think it's weird that people care so much about how somebody's making money if it's not hurting anybody like why is this what whether she's making a brand deal for shoes or a pregnancy test why do you care she's like she's all she monetize the moment that's like the same thing as like let's say they're advertising for like maternity clothes and one of the models is a pregnant woman because she's modeling maternity clothes and you're like how dare you do that you're exploiting like baby you don't want to see an actual pregnant woman modeling these clothes yeah like i would much rather see know that the pregnancy test works.

Speaker 2 Or like an actual pregnant woman and not someone with a pillow shoved on the bottom.

Speaker 1 And I will say, like, in glee. I will say, as someone who's been, you know, whose wife showed him a pregnancy test when we had River, you know, the two lines, they're nice.
They're nice.

Speaker 3 They are nice. Would you rather them be electronic?

Speaker 1 But that one that says pregnant, that hits home. You're like, you don't even have to think about it.
You're like, is it? I don't know.

Speaker 1 Like, the pregnancy, it's like the faint, it's kind of like a COVID test. It's like, I think maybe I got it.
I don't know. But the other one,

Speaker 1 pregnant, you're like, holy shit.

Speaker 1 I think you're pregnant. It's all caps.

Speaker 1 It's all caps. And guess what?

Speaker 3 We're talking about it. The ad's working.

Speaker 1 The ads are working. Clear blue?

Speaker 2 Yeah. I'll be trying in the next year, maybe.

Speaker 1 We'll be

Speaker 1 circling back.

Speaker 1 Sure.

Speaker 3 Clear blue, I am not the girl for you.

Speaker 2 So Jennifer Aiden is cut.

Speaker 1 from she got fired she got fired from the cruise after her jersey mics outburst yeah well basically andy cohen came out and he basically was like look this is a situation this is me paraphrasing where you just listen to the video before you post it.

Speaker 1 Like, think about it. Think what it might have an effect on the world.
What are you going to get from it?

Speaker 3 He said, I stand with that oil and vinegar and seasoning mix.

Speaker 1 Exactly. And then basically, like, there was a New Jersey Fans at Sea cruise that was going to happen with Teresa Judice, Jennifer Aiden, and Dolores from New Jersey, and she was removed from it.

Speaker 1 A representative spoke out saying. that they made adjustments in order to keep the cruise enjoyable and welcoming for all guests.

Speaker 1 Their priority is to create a drama-free, fun-filled experience for everyone they insisted the decision was neither personal nor an act of canceling anyone as they believe in a second chance and personal growth okay well i don't know if you can say you believe in second chances when you're firing someone for their first offense of being

Speaker 1 you know so it's a little like well it would make more sense to say that if like you kept her and people were like how dare you keep her and they're like well we believe in second chances but they're like she's fired but like it's a preemptive second chance because while they may remove her her from this opportunity, I don't think she is blacklisted from bravo opportunities, you know.

Speaker 2 Has anyone on Jennifer Aiden's camp said anything?

Speaker 1 No. She hasn't said anything.
She hasn't been like, my bad got a little overheated, a little overreacted. You know, I don't know.

Speaker 3 My take on this is if Jennifer Aiden cannot do housewife's duties because of beef with Jersey Mike's employees, Jen Shaw should never be allowed on television again.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 I will say Jennifer Aiden is the only New Jersey housewife making headlines right now. Besides Melissa Gorgo.

Speaker 1 Well, Melissa Gorgo is selling sprinkle cookies, and Jennifer is making headlines for being a housewife. Okay.

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Speaker 1 Little Girl Goes Viral after spending Walmart gift card on a rotisserie chicken. Leo, you were telling me about this.
What's the big controversy? I don't understand. I was telling you about this.

Speaker 1 Oh, basically. Sorry.

Speaker 1 Not everybody, but

Speaker 1 just to save Leo. I'm sorry.
Again, I got this. I haven't eaten.

Speaker 2 He's also wearing socks with a big ass Aaron Rodgers face on them that he, yeah, Aaron keeps staring at me.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 yeah. That's so scary.
Is that what it looks like? That's kind of scary. That's so scary.

Speaker 1 So, basically, Brittany and H on TikTok, she posted a video of her kid who got a Christmas gift card to Walmart. And they went to Walmart, and the kid decided to buy a rotisserie chicken.
Love.

Speaker 1 Which most people, most people are positively reacting to this, being like relatable. She knows her priorities.
Like, good for her. Good food.
But then there's also the other.

Speaker 1 I'm going to tell you why to someone who hasn't eaten 36 hours, that sounds like like

Speaker 1 the right choice. There's also people saying that, well, it is a good lesson, but also the mom should have just bought the chicken at that point because it's like her Christmas gift card.

Speaker 1 I want to tell you a story. When I was a kid, my mom would go grocery shopping, and we have a large family, as you guys know.
And so grocery shopping was a bit of an experience for mom.

Speaker 1 It was a two to three hour thing. One of my greatest fantasies.

Speaker 1 as a kid, every time I'd go grocery shopping with my mom, was fantasizing about what it would be like to be locked in the grocery store overnight and have just unlimited access to anything.

Speaker 1 And I would just go down every aisle and fantasize about what I would eat or could eat. I never had a fantasy about what toys I would play with at any given store.
So yeah, I totally get it.

Speaker 1 And if you're a kid and your mom's like, you get to buy anything you want and you thought, I get to buy a whole fucking chicken and it's mine.

Speaker 1 That makes so much sense. And like, why is food not considered an amazing gift for anyone who says, like, this is what I want?

Speaker 1 You know, like, I think it's also great that she like gave her the gift card obviously knowing that she would want food and then it was like it's kind of her way of being like you get whatever you want from the grocery store you know Nick you just unlocked a memory in my head do you remember like Target used to do this thing for Christmas where you could as a kid grab like the scanners and create a wish list by going around the store and like scanning different objects mine was always food so yeah there you go

Speaker 2 for our Christmas when I was a kid my mom would let us each pick out our own cereal for Christmas morning and that was like

Speaker 1 crazy

Speaker 2 and it was like that's your box of cereal. No one else can touch it.

Speaker 1 That's

Speaker 1 a full box. What if you wanted the same as someone else? You do the same.
And I get my own box of cells. You write your name on it.

Speaker 3 You're so hot.

Speaker 1 Harvey the name on it. You're so hot.
No, but also as a kid, we used to like, my mom would every once in a while buy what we called sugar cereal.

Speaker 1 So like anything like Cocoa Pebbles or like sugar smacks. And I would wake up at 5.30 in the morning and like run down because there wasn't enough cereal in that box to feed all the kids.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And then there was a one bowl of cereal rule, which I would often break by like, well, I still have milk, so it's still the same bowl.

Speaker 1 Would you buy the boxes or would you buy like the giant bags? Because like big families always had like the bagged ones. Oh, every once in a while.

Speaker 1 My mom did it all. Like we've, we, you know, we couponed.
You know, we had to, we had to make ends meet. But well, the bagged ones are cheaper.
They're just like.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 I remember sitting at the breakfast table with my bowl of cereal and the box in front of me and like playing the games.

Speaker 1 Oh my God.

Speaker 1 Like that was. I once found a Michael Jordan basketball.
It was it would they like, I think it it was Cheerios or something was giving away like basketball cards.

Speaker 1 And I was like, what if I got Michael Jordan? And in the box was Michael fucking Jordan. It was one of the best days of my life.

Speaker 1 I mean, obviously, like,

Speaker 1 not.

Speaker 3 Do you still have the basketball card?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 I don't think so. I wish.
I wish. I don't know where my parents did with all my cards.

Speaker 2 All of your stuff they keep telling you is at the lake. And they're like, it's up in the garage.
You should look at it and tell me what you want.

Speaker 1 We'll keep it.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Oh, now it's at the lake.

Speaker 2 All your trophies, all your medals.

Speaker 1 Call the link.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 2 James Kennedy returned to social media and I am grateful that he did because it reminded me that I was still following him and I needed to unfollow him.

Speaker 1 So I was grateful.

Speaker 1 I guess I suppose I should unfollow him.

Speaker 2 Yeah. You know, I forgot I followed him because he went ghost.
I didn't. He wasn't popping up.
anymore and I just went out of my head. And then the second I saw that little, I was like, ah, my God.

Speaker 2 Get it out of here.

Speaker 1 he's posting like sobriety coins so he's like celebrating or like encouraging himself to stay

Speaker 1 followed me earlier so

Speaker 1 that makes sense meanwhile on the other side Allie is posting tick tocks of her new Larchmont apartment yeah so she's moved out Larchmont and he's posting coins sobriety coins sobriety coins yeah I mean to prove so there's been has there been any acknowledgement about his being violent and physical towards women from him yes no no this is I mean this is him returning to social media.

Speaker 2 He posted three Instagram stories. The first one was of his coins.

Speaker 1 I'm just so over this whole like excuse of that read, keep coming back.

Speaker 2 Then the next was a selfie of him and his dog. Thank God for that.

Speaker 2 And then the third was like him throw, it was like him throwing the ball for his dog or like the sunset or like the park or something. So glad we got that update from him.

Speaker 1 Like, I mean,

Speaker 2 okay.

Speaker 1 But he needs sobriety. He needs to acknowledge it.

Speaker 2 100% he needs to acknowledge it. Get sober.

Speaker 1 That's awesome. But like, you

Speaker 1 not every alcoholic or person who abuses substances is violent towards women or abuses women physically.

Speaker 1 And like the fact that he's implying that's the case. I'm sorry.
I'm curious if that's like a private conversation between Ali and James. Because I remember

Speaker 1 Shana said that like that was just out of respect of Ali that some people weren't speaking.

Speaker 2 No, I 100% hope that that's been a private conversation between him and Ali. It 100% needs to be if it hasn't.
But he also does need to address the world because like

Speaker 1 he had fans he had followers he had people who supported him and loved him and showed up to his dj sets and he has people who were looking up to him and now he's like shown over and over and over and over and over again that he's still this person who's abusing women and it's like you've got to he's also addressing the world like you know what i'm saying he's being a public figure and he's continuing to be a public figure and he's now posting sobriety coins and making statements about his sobriety this all of these statements indirectly are ignoring the problem you know which is his abuse And I have a lot of empathy for people who struggle with addiction, but that's still in no way ever an excuse to do that.

Speaker 3 I think he can be allowed to like have his own sobriety journey and like be, and people are like more than welcome to like support him in his sobriety, but that does not change what he did and what he has not owned up to in that regard.

Speaker 3 You know, like both of those things. are prevalent.

Speaker 1 And what's frustrating is you know what's going to happen. He's banking on time going by and people just kind of forgetting and other stories coming out.

Speaker 1 And then he'll slowly kind of keep reappearing and he'll talk about a sobriety and hope that everyone just forgets about the actual thing that he did, which is

Speaker 1 going to wake up and throw her across the room.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And then he'll, you know, try to get work again and try to be out there and everyone will just kind of be like, well, didn't you do that thing? Yeah. You never know.

Speaker 3 What's the same thing with like arm? So like Army Hammer has been coming back into the news recently, doing interviews and claiming that he's like turning down roles.

Speaker 1 Started a podcast.

Speaker 3 He started a podcast. He's been like on other, I forget exactly whose podcast he was on, but he's been doing more public appearances.

Speaker 3 And his, the kind of narrative that he's like spinning is that, oh my God, it's so crazy that people thought I was a cannibal. I wasn't actual, actually cannibal.
Like that's, that's crazy.

Speaker 3 That's so funny. I would never do that.
But then the issue was never that he was a cannibal. It was that he was abusive to girlfriends.

Speaker 3 So it's like we're spinning that under the rug and he probably is going to make a return because he already is.

Speaker 3 And so it's like, it's just this infuriating thing where so many men, public men who like do these awful things to women are just allowed to continue because they can like spin the narrative of like what other

Speaker 1 hot button issue they have that's going on that they're struggling with and then just sweep the rest of it under the rug because they have been getting away with this for years i mean army hammer's podcast bio says we feed him before every episode yeah so yeah it's it's almost it's like a it's like a like sleight of hand you know and it works bait and switch yeah it totally Yeah.

Speaker 1 Everyone's more focused about how difficult lively. It's so bizarre.
It's like people can be difficult. People are difficult on sets all the time.
What does that have to do with?

Speaker 3 But I don't like her vibe.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 3 so in Southern Charm News, Craig has addressed his split with Paige.

Speaker 1 This is sad. I watched the video.

Speaker 2 He just seems like such a lovely guy.

Speaker 1 Can we, do we have the video?

Speaker 2 I will say, I'm never one to like pay attention to like breakups and things like that. And I love Paige, obviously.

Speaker 1 But Craig is one one of those.

Speaker 1 I would slide in those DOs.

Speaker 1 Sit with your chest.

Speaker 2 I can't because I love my boyfriend very much.

Speaker 1 But if I were single, I did see a headline that said no more giggling and all cops.

Speaker 1 Not the squad. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Everyone, what's up?

Speaker 1 Oh, figured it's finally time to check in with everyone. Sorry about the delay.

Speaker 1 This has all been very,

Speaker 1 very unexpected, to say the least. I mean, that's new information.

Speaker 3 It is. My one thing about this video is he is basically being like, Yeah, Paige broke up with me, and I didn't know that that was going to happen.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's really the only takeaway from this video.

Speaker 1 Also, that he seems to be hurting.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I mean, he was like, It's just weird, you know, like you go from talking to your best friend every day to like, not at all, but you know, we'll get there and adjust.

Speaker 2 And I was just like, I love the fact that he didn't say anything cruel or degrading about Paige. He only said, Be nice to her, be kind to both of us.
But like he's just

Speaker 3 yeah, but he the unexpected is a it kind of I'm I gotta be it's all

Speaker 1 not the cleanest video. It's a little bit of a I do want you to know I was caught off guard and she did it and she broke my heart.

Speaker 1 It definitely is not Paige gave we broke up.

Speaker 2 Well, she talked about it on her podcast.

Speaker 1 I feel like he did she say I broke up with him unexpectedly and he's heartbroken and I'm shattered and I'm like at basketball games chilling.

Speaker 2 It kind of implied, in my opinion, listening to her, she she was like, you know, I'm not the same person I was when we started dating. I was 29 and in my 30s, we want different things.

Speaker 2 So I think it's, you know, it seemed in her version, it seemed just very amicable. And it sounds in his version, too.
It's amicable, but you just want that.

Speaker 1 People have a right to break up. People have a right to like decide that things don't work out.
Things can change. And it doesn't mean anything nefarious.

Speaker 1 It's just we live in a world where someone breaks up and everyone's expecting

Speaker 1 someone's fault or someone did something wrong or nefarious.

Speaker 2 It's a long-term relationship.

Speaker 2 It's either you grow together or you grow apart and it seems like neither one of them were planning on moving and he was very adamant about like wanting her to move to charleston and get married and all that and if that's not in the cards for her i think that that's great that she decided as much as i love you and would want to make it work this just doesn't work for where i'm at in my life right now

Speaker 1 yeah who do you think starts dating first one of my predictions oh

Speaker 2 i don't know it's kind of hard because it's like i feel like sometimes when breakups like this happen and one person wants to get married so badly that i'm like i could meet somebody and by December this year be engaged.

Speaker 2 I could see that because he wants that. And I could also see Paige coming out with like a hottie headlining.
Yeah, like actor or, you know.

Speaker 1 I think Paige is going to be dating someone either super rich or famous.

Speaker 2 Super rich or super famous. Absolutely.
Austin Butler?

Speaker 1 Single.

Speaker 3 Kaya Gerber broke up.

Speaker 1 No. That is a joke.

Speaker 2 Is she down for blondes? What? Is she down for wands?

Speaker 1 Kaya Gerber? No, Paige. Oh.

Speaker 1 Um, who knows? I don't know.

Speaker 2 I see I see her going kind of like a, it's either going to be somebody like that we all know, or it's going to be like a Lindsey Hubbard, like somebody that's very successful in their field that wants nothing to do with it.

Speaker 1 I think it's going to be more of the latter, but we'll see. Yeah, we'll see.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Hugh Jackman.

Speaker 1 Hugh Jackman, who is also out there dating and getting back out there after his divorce.

Speaker 3 Congrats, you and Sutton Foster.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm not familiar with Sutton Foster. Is she a big deal? Rodre royalty.
Check the musical.

Speaker 3 Extremely talented woman.

Speaker 1 No, she's in.

Speaker 1 I have no doubt. She's in a lot.
Younger? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 She was also, she also had her own TV show.

Speaker 3 Tony Award-winning.

Speaker 1 Well, it's a new year. And so being a new year, we have some possible predictions we are going to guess.
Is it all Bravo? Did you, is it Bravo predictions? Solely Bravo. Solely Bravo predictions.

Speaker 1 What do we think is going to happen in 2025? Sierra came up with a list of possibilities that we now get to discuss.

Speaker 2 People were doing this around like pop culture stuff, and people were saying that you and I were going to get a divorce in 2025.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's so rude. I know, isn't it rude?

Speaker 2 She feels like she's going to have a second baby, and they're also going to get a divorce.

Speaker 1 So, whoa, you got a busy year, girl. Paige had some rumors that she had to deal with about, I guess, some infidelity, and she's had some, it seems like she's had some fun

Speaker 1 clapping back and addressing said rumors.

Speaker 2 Yeah, she's something like you'll hear from my lawyer.

Speaker 1 See you in court.

Speaker 1 And again, people always want and need a reason.

Speaker 2 First prediction. Paige will announce new relationship with an actor.
Yes?

Speaker 1 No. Yay.

Speaker 1 I have a timeline with who this year?

Speaker 2 2025. 2025.

Speaker 1 Paige will announce a prediction with an actor.

Speaker 2 A new relationship with an actor.

Speaker 1 No, I really think Paige needs... Paige needs a non-problematic, not a diva.
This is not about what she needs.

Speaker 2 Listen. What do we think she will do? I think she will go athlete.
And I think she'll go athlete because athletes have a sense of humor. She is funny.
She needs someone funny.

Speaker 2 A lot of the time A-list actors are like kind of weird. They're really serious and they're very serious and like and like kooky, a little kooky.
And I think she might be like, you're fucking weird.

Speaker 2 No thanks. And I think she might go for an athlete who's funny and rich.

Speaker 3 Rich. Or do you think comedian?

Speaker 1 No, I don't think she'll go comedian because Dominican.

Speaker 3 If she's a comedian, he would be too funny. He would like think he was funnier than her.

Speaker 1 Oh, she wouldn't be. Probably problematic.
Yeah. Fair.
Yeah. Athlete.
All right.

Speaker 2 Next one. Ramona Singer will return to Bravo.

Speaker 1 Unfortunately. Yeah.
Unfortunately. Why do we have to?

Speaker 2 I think they've got to bring someone back

Speaker 2 to New York if they're going to try to do another season. Well, my next one was the new Roni put on pause.

Speaker 1 I predict shake-up. I don't know if it's going to be a pause.
Okay. They're for sure going to mix the old with the new.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah. They got to mix the old with the new.
Winterhouse will return. They put it on pause last year.

Speaker 2 It was like the eclectic mix of summer house, vanderpump rules, and then last season bombed with below deck characters.

Speaker 1 It'll probably return with more Vanderpump since I chose not

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 yeah.

Speaker 1 That's a good call. Okay.

Speaker 2 Next one is: there will be an engagement on Real Housewaves of Miami. I'm thinking Lisa.

Speaker 1 Lisa's whole divorce situation is messy, so probably.

Speaker 2 But she's with a rich dude, so I feel like her season is.

Speaker 1 Is Larsa still with

Speaker 1 Jordan? No.

Speaker 1 As of House of Villains, no.

Speaker 2 Sandoval and Schwartz will have a spin-off.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 2 Absolutely not. On YouTube.

Speaker 1 On Patreon. On Patreon.

Speaker 3 On

Speaker 3 Booby.

Speaker 1 On YouTube. Okay.
I've heard that, well, I mean, I think they're still very close friends, but I hear that Tom Sandoval and his girlfriend are

Speaker 1 24-7 on an island,

Speaker 1 kind of living on their own. Interesting.
There's no room for Schwartz anymore.

Speaker 1 I don't know how much room there is for Schwartz in this moment of Tom Sandoval's life.

Speaker 2 Is Schwartz still dating Sophia?

Speaker 1 Do you know? I think so. Yeah.
As far as I knew, they moved in together.

Speaker 2 I mean, they're definitely quiet on social media.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 if that means anything to everyone, then

Speaker 2 they're absolutely broken up and hate each other.

Speaker 2 Going off of social media.

Speaker 1 When was the last time they shared anything? Did they not move in together? No.

Speaker 2 Anytime Schwartz posts, like, even his, like, when he moved and everything, they don't post together in stories or like in.

Speaker 1 So they moved in together and now they might be broken up?

Speaker 2 I don't even know if they're, I don't, I don't know. I think they might just be together.

Speaker 1 No, we should get Schwartz back on.

Speaker 1 We did an update. Yeah, we did an update.

Speaker 3 I do have some questions for that man.

Speaker 3 One, how do you feel to look like me, bitch?

Speaker 3 That's actually it.

Speaker 2 Okay, I don't think this, but I did see this circulating. Brittany Cartwright gets pregnant this year.

Speaker 1 I see it.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 1 Season three, Valley. My good season.
With someone other than Jax? Yes. Oh, of course.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Fuck that. She's definitely not going back to Jax.

Speaker 1 But I mean, Jax has a storyline of being mad.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Maybe also with an athlete.

Speaker 2 I feel like, yes, Yes. No.
Nick says no.

Speaker 1 No, I'm rooting. Well, I'm rooting for that.

Speaker 1 I'm rooting for Brittany Cartwright. What kind of athlete?

Speaker 2 I'm thinking like

Speaker 2 rugby.

Speaker 2 No,

Speaker 2 I'm thinking a Lakers player. Yeah, like a basketball player.

Speaker 1 Yeah, for sure. What about Paige?

Speaker 3 I see Paige more basketball than Paige was at a basketball game before.

Speaker 1 I don't know who she might be.

Speaker 2 More senses of humor. I feel like

Speaker 1 baseball guys are pretty funny and rich. Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 2 I mean, those pants, don't lie.

Speaker 2 No new season of real hospitals of new jersey this year that's for sure probably i mean andy already said probably for another year pause okay kim zolzak makes an appearance on real hospitals of atlanta do we think she's gonna come back with all of her headlines her incredible i want her back i want her back she's okay too messy yeah i feel like she has to come back An ultimate girls trip with a younger cast, women from Southern Charm, the Valley, VPR.

Speaker 2 Like, you know, they do Ultimate Girls Trip, but it's like Legacy or like Luanne, like what a younger girl. I don't think that would happen in 2025, maybe 2026.
Okay.

Speaker 2 I think if we put it out there, we're now putting it into Bra Rose Brain.

Speaker 1 I think Ultimate Girls Trip is on pause. I do want to litigation.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. We have our

Speaker 1 demise.

Speaker 1 Yeah. We'll see.

Speaker 2 Okay, this one is really spicy. I was tired and it's really, it's really bad, but I was like, Sierra and Craig get together.

Speaker 1 I said, I don't know why I feel like this could happen, but I know you're not projecting drama on your own. I mean, I'm just saying, I'm just asking because, like, 10 minutes ago, you were like,

Speaker 2 I don't know. I just, something that I always have in the back of my head, I just feel like they have like this really interesting chemistry with each other.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 2 But it's like, yeah, they would have to literally never be friends.

Speaker 1 No, no, no.

Speaker 1 Absolutely not.

Speaker 2 I told you I was tired of feeling spicy.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 2 And my last prediction. John Jansen and Alexis Bellino do not get married.

Speaker 1 Yes. Yes.

Speaker 2 A hundred percent. Like engagement called off.

Speaker 3 Yes. As soon as she is officially asked from the show, he's gone.

Speaker 2 Then he sues her.

Speaker 1 She's already as well. She's already officially asked.
She's already officially asked. That does it for 2025.
Bravo predictions. All right.

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Speaker 2 One time I got a massage on a cruise ship, and you know how they play like instrumental, whatever.

Speaker 2 And I realized like during my massage that they were playing the instrumental of Titanic and I was like, this is fucked up.

Speaker 1 This is fucked up. Sir, I went to massage and they're playing like lo-fi Billy Eilish with a beat.
And I was like, this is not relaxing.

Speaker 2 We did that in Leia.

Speaker 5 when we got our couples massage they were

Speaker 1 you guys got a couple's massage I've never had a massage I was invited by threesomes

Speaker 3 because you're always not for any particular reason I just never have mary they're good I've been getting massages since I could probably use one especially since you know how often my like like the back of my neck goes numb when I'm editing that's called chiropractor yeah my mom told me never to go to her chiropractor we should hire miss Seuss

Speaker 1 what's the plural for Miss Seuss I've been going to one since I was like

Speaker 1 eight me too no literally me too I don't know.

Speaker 3 Every week? My mom's like, I'm a nurse.

Speaker 1 Trust me.

Speaker 3 And then she's like, chiropractors will just fuck up your back and then you have to keep going to that.

Speaker 1 I think there's a lot of shady chiropractors.

Speaker 3 I think

Speaker 1 doctors.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I would have been a chiropractor in Florida.

Speaker 3 I think a lot of like doc, I think doctors and chiropractors have beef.

Speaker 1 Oh, they do. Yeah.
Is Rachel Lindsey's ex-husband a chiropractor from Florida? He is. He is.

Speaker 5 I am obsessed with chiropractor TikToks, though, I will say.

Speaker 1 Not that.

Speaker 5 I love watching people get cracked.

Speaker 2 I hate hate that sound so I love to crack.

Speaker 1 I'm sure the NFL has a lot of chiropractor emissions.

Speaker 2 Oh, oh, oh, oh.

Speaker 3 I'm sure they are getting their back cracked the fuck up.

Speaker 5 Wait, I have one more chiropractor story real quick. My roommate's boyfriend, who ended up also being one of my roommates in Atlanta, was a chiropractic student, and I let him give me adjustments.

Speaker 2 And now you're uneven.

Speaker 1 That's your story. But yeah, that's it.
I let Ben Higgins, who learned from his chiropractor buddy, crack my neck.

Speaker 2 That's my wild.

Speaker 1 It was wild. I don't know why I did that.

Speaker 2 I won't go to a chiropractor because I feel like when they tell you to relax or breathe, they're going to crack it. No, I hate that sound and I'm going to tense up and then I'm just going to die.

Speaker 2 I don't know if you heard that in the mic. That's my irrational fear.

Speaker 1 It's five football time.

Speaker 3 So do you guys know about the wild card?

Speaker 1 Absolutely not.

Speaker 3 Playoff edition. Okay, so for anyone confused, the wild card.
I'm sorry. Go ahead.

Speaker 3 The wild card round of the playoffs is basically the girls, and by girls, I mean grown men's chance to bring the receipt, the proof, the timeline, fucking everything to the table in order to be green lit into the next season of the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, or in football's case,

Speaker 3 the divisional playoffs.

Speaker 1 The divisional playoffs.

Speaker 3 Yes.

Speaker 1 So it's winner-go-home. Winner-go-the-ploofs are the Super Bowl? No.
Super Bowl. Like they turn into the Super Bowl.
So basically, you're trying to get to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 You're trying to get... Right now, the wild card are like the teams that are like kind of not.

Speaker 3 Let's say theoretically, like Heather Gay is like kind of phoning in the season, and she has one chance to get renewed. And this is her chance to get renewed.

Speaker 1 Yeah, okay, kind of, right? Yeah, it would be more like

Speaker 1 a friend of trying to get a full cast member.

Speaker 1 It would be like, for example, like if they have seating, so if like Kyle Richards was going toe-to-toe with like, let's say, a, you know, a Crystal Minkoff, right?

Speaker 1 And then, like, Crystal Minkoff, who's not even on the show right now, it would be considered the underdog in whatever match of housewife lore they're competing in.

Speaker 3 To get closer for like center, it's Brittany, center dynamics.

Speaker 1 It's Bernie saying, what about me?

Speaker 3 yes this is the what about me moment everyone's more confused about football now yeah okay i am so confused now what's happening okay so it's the wild card they're basically just trying to like get into the playoffs yeah no they're in the playoffs wild card is the playoffs but it's the wild card division of the playoffs it's like the teams that are like on the cutting block on the top of the name i mean whatever anyway so this week we're talking about the washington commanders versus the tampa bay buccaneers and the commanders are the dereet kensley of the nfl in that they have had a truly magical season in a way that no one thought was possible.

Speaker 1 That's true. They also had a name change.

Speaker 3 They did.

Speaker 1 And he has a new accent.

Speaker 3 They're more alike in many ways.

Speaker 3 In their last game against the Cowboys, they were down three with six seconds left in the game, and their backup quarterback, Marcus Mariota, threw a game-winning touchdown in a shot curd round the world.

Speaker 3 This is what I like to call the smoking a cigarette in the car while driving through Bel Air Gang. Marcus Mariota, a veteran, reminded the team that he is chic as a wind chime

Speaker 3 and he's not going anywhere.

Speaker 1 That was a dirty Kemsey reference.

Speaker 3 Yes. And then the Buccaneers are the expected winner of the game with a home field advantage.
And Baker Mayfield, their quarterback, is their reason why. He is the Angie Katanevas of the NFL.

Speaker 3 Passed around, disrespected, looked over, drinks poured on his head, told that he can leave. Many teams.

Speaker 3 But now he is back in a big way, securing his position as center snowflake, or in his case, the NFC South Division champion. So here's the question.

Speaker 3 Will Baker and the Bucs have their high body count hair at moment? Or will the Commanders bring the fashion, fashion, fashion? Only time will tell, and only Vibes can decide.

Speaker 2 Unfortunately, I won't be able to decide off vibes because I do need to know like some, like, is anyone doing good or is anyone doing bad?

Speaker 3 Um, the Bucs are doing pretty. I mean, Baker Mayfield and the Bucks are doing like really good.

Speaker 1 They're both doing pretty good. Yeah.
I heard Angie Kay, so I'm going with. I'm going to go with Dariet.
Always. You're going to go with Dariet.
Well,

Speaker 1 and the Commanders.

Speaker 2 Vibes want to go with the Bucks.

Speaker 1 We have to. Okay, we're going to have to.
I'm going to have to. Yeah.
Yeah. Okay.
Are they Florida?

Speaker 3 Tampa Bay. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 That's enough. Great.

Speaker 3 They don't have Tom Brady on their team.

Speaker 1 I thought they were from Greece. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Well, Florida is the Greece of America. Oh.

Speaker 1 It's like a peninsula. Okay.
Well, we'll see how everyone does. Hopefully the Green Bay Packers beat the Philadelphia Eagles that they're playing this week.

Speaker 3 Okay, but just vibes are going Bucs. Stats are going Commanders.

Speaker 1 Correct. Cool.
Yeah. All right.
All right, Bev Hills. All right, we've taken a couple weeks off.

Speaker 1 Where do we want to start? Venom in the Viper room. All I have to say is I will not defend any hate going towards Sutton.
Really? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I can't. I won't.

Speaker 1 You're Sutton till you'll die. I think Sutton calls a spade a spade, and we should be listening to Sutton.
But she's preaching girlhood.

Speaker 1 She's such a hypocrite. And sometimes girlhood is putting your foot down and just saying BFFR.

Speaker 1 You hate your life right now. I think Bozeman of all these women, I trust the most.
No, I trust the most. I do too.
I do too, but I think she has she. But she did.

Speaker 2 No, no, no. But then Sutton tried to turn it as like a I wasn't saying like you're unhappy with your life.

Speaker 2 I was just like saying like this is why like things it's I was just I was trying to do and just trying to let her know that maybe that and I think she might have said it in a heated moment.

Speaker 2 What about her behavior in the Viper room? You stand by that?

Speaker 1 Look, Sutton is a southern woman.

Speaker 1 I don't act like that. I was gonna fuck this up.
I mean go on. I don't act like that.

Speaker 1 I'm gonna leave it there.

Speaker 1 I love that you ride hard for Sutton.

Speaker 3 I can't talk with my allegiance to Meredith. So I'm going to let you go.

Speaker 1 Yeah, if there was one housewife that you

Speaker 1 unequivocally will have their back no matter what, who is it? Bronwyn. Okay.
Newbie. Wow.
But I love her. What about you guys?

Speaker 1 Hi, I'm Bronwyn. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I'm probably Shannon.

Speaker 1 Bedoy.

Speaker 3 We should all make t-shirts.

Speaker 2 I don't understand why at the Viper Room, they had Kesha in attendance, but Erica Jane performed.

Speaker 2 And it wasn't even a performance. It was a hype up.
Let's hype up the crowd. Put your hands in the sky.
I'm going to mouth the lyrics to my song.

Speaker 1 Domino. Domino.

Speaker 2 While Kesha was just like chilling when she could have iconically done TikTok on the clock, but the party don't stop and she didn't wake up in the morning like, fuck Pete.

Speaker 1 She is friends with Kyle. Yeah.
Like before the...

Speaker 1 before and during the show and after it was filmed like she is friends with her and i think kyle was just trying to prove the point like i could be friends with a female artist, and like it's nothing.

Speaker 1 That's why she

Speaker 1 had

Speaker 1 a joke.

Speaker 1 I think that Kesha

Speaker 3 Kesha didn't perform because NBC didn't want to pay Kesha for the rights to use one of her songs. That's probably true.

Speaker 2 That is probably true. I do wish we would have seen more of a performance from Erica Jane since she is such a performer.
It felt like laziness. Not the party behavior.

Speaker 2 Hands in the sky.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Put your arms up. When Jennifer Tilley was like, yeah, I don't think she's going to be winning any awards for lyrics.

Speaker 1 She's the best. My favorite thing about Sutton is her friendship with Jennifer Tilly.
Yeah, truly.

Speaker 1 I trust who Tilly trusts.

Speaker 2 The dog, when she comes in, is like, hi, little dogs. And then the dogs start barking and she's running out of it.

Speaker 1 Do you know the phantom song that Natalie thought was in Wicked? You're a witch and I'm a rich. Yeah, she's.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 I picture Jennifer Tilly and Sutton singing to each other, you're rich, and I'm rich, and we're rich together, you know, like all day long.

Speaker 1 Because they're rich.

Speaker 1 Yeah. They're so rich.

Speaker 3 They could do a crappy lake

Speaker 1 moment. What's that? It's the Luann and Sonia spin-off.

Speaker 2 Where they like kind of like simple life, where they go to like a town in the middle of nowhere.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. It's just them drinking 24-7 and talking to people that don't have as much money as them.

Speaker 2 Has anyone checked on Garcelle's beach house?

Speaker 1 That's in Malibu. Oh my god.
Oh my god.

Speaker 1 That's a good point.

Speaker 2 No, I think she's at...

Speaker 1 I think she's a little further north than Malibu. I think she's like up by like Oxnard.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 But yeah, she brought her son and shared

Speaker 1 Oliver.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Oliver's backstory. I don't know if you remember Oliver from.

Speaker 1 Oh, I remember. Yeah, the one who was making out with

Speaker 1 Raquel.

Speaker 1 Lala.

Speaker 2 He didn't make out with Lala, but he was like talking.

Speaker 1 How did he end up on that? That was weird. Well, he was because he worked at Las Vegas.
Yeah, at Pump.

Speaker 1 The way that I understand it is Garcella got on Beverly Hills. Through those connections, she knew Lisa Vanner Pump.
She wasn't on a season with Lisa Vanerpump, but she like somehow met Lisa.

Speaker 1 And then that connection, Lisa then hired Oliver

Speaker 1 at the Las Vegas one. Then the Raquel stuff happened.
Didn't recently Kyle and Lisa like talk shit about each other or the other.

Speaker 1 Well, Lisa originally made like LVP made a comment saying like if she wants to have a friendship with Kyle, she needs an apology. And Kyle.
Or just being like, I never got an apology.

Speaker 3 And Kyle was like, you're not going to get an apology.

Speaker 1 But happy holidays. Happy holidays.
Love that, actually, from Kyle. Yeah.
She was like, nobody asked me. What is Kyle supposed to apologize to Lisa for?

Speaker 1 For not defending her against rumors five years ago about a diet.

Speaker 1 Well, Lisa Vanderpump only defends men. Problematic men.

Speaker 2 I will say I am disappointed in Garcelle's a housewife this episode because she had the perfect opportunity to be a housewife in the Viper room when Kyle was like, have I talked to PK?

Speaker 1 Have I talked to PK? We said me.

Speaker 2 Me, maybe, in the last, knowing damn well last episode, she was like, yeah, I've been talking to PK.

Speaker 3 PK Texas, her.

Speaker 2 And Garcelle was silent.

Speaker 2 Garcelle said nothing which is crazy because bozeman had more to say and she's just met these people and she's defending darit being like and even then girl code like i know garcel doesn't like darit but in that moment you still could have been like wait kyle that's not what you told me on the boat like let's go back a little bit i will say it's a violation of girl code but i also don't think that Kyle and PK have anything but I don't think it is I don't think it's about them having anything to do

Speaker 2 but it is a complete violation of girl code it's so inappropriate and it's also because Kyle's not communicating communicating with Dorit.

Speaker 2 So I think it's weird to be like, he's a better friend to me when it's like the only reason why you know PK is through Dorit.

Speaker 2 But also, how is he a better friend to you if all you're sending are memes?

Speaker 1 Yeah. And you say if someone says meme, it's not a meme.
It's not a meme. It's just like a joke here and there.

Speaker 2 Like he's saying knock, knock, who's fucking there?

Speaker 3 It's probably mean memes about Darit.

Speaker 2 That's what I was going to say.

Speaker 1 It's a form of, well, you know,

Speaker 1 it's two people connecting is what it is.

Speaker 1 It may be trivial. It may be nothing more.
And I'm not saying like two people sending memes.

Speaker 3 Like you're cheating. There's Relationships based off of sending memes.

Speaker 2 But you're not sending just like a meme, and then somebody sends a meme back as a response. You're going to talk about the meme.
You're going to laugh about the meme. Why are you sending the meme?

Speaker 2 Why do you think it's funny to send to me?

Speaker 1 Your husband you're separated with is sending memes with your friend that you're not talking to. How are you? I wouldn't be talking about your ex best living.

Speaker 3 Husband is sending your ex-best friend memes.

Speaker 2 And Kyle isn't like,

Speaker 2 hey, Dariet, like, no, we're not cool right now, but I have heard from PK. He just sent me this meme.
He sent me Go Piss Girl.

Speaker 1 I thought it was weird. I didn't want to let you know because I know we're not talking right now.
But like, I just, you know, I want you to know where I stand. And that's with you.

Speaker 1 Like, Kyle would have lost her. I don't even know Kyle that well.
I don't know Kyle at all. I've never met her.
I met her once, but she was lovely. But I don't know her at all.

Speaker 1 I just know her through Housewives. But the Kyle I've watched is someone who's pissed.
Yep. Yep.
So pissed. Yeah.

Speaker 2 So she's 100% breaking girl code, in my opinion, and playing dumb about it. I am glad they went around the table and all of them were like, yeah, I wouldn't do that.
Yeah, that's fucking weird.

Speaker 2 Yeah, no thanks. And then Kyle kind of like lost her shit

Speaker 2 on Dorit, which felt. When she was like, can you not yell at me so your veins are popping out of your forehead? I was like, damn.

Speaker 2 The rest of the episode is Kyle screaming with her veins popping out of her forehead.

Speaker 1 Dorita's is really on one. Yeah.
Do you think it's manufactured? In what way? Like this specific argument, I was like, are we really getting that mad? Like them screaming at each other. Go with them.

Speaker 1 I mean, like, don't talk to me that way. I mean, I think.
The meme, yeah, the meme's valid, but like the after part, I was like, now we're just like screaming to like.

Speaker 1 I don't know if they know the difference. Yeah, I think they just

Speaker 3 also lost in the sauce of like perception show versus reality at this point.

Speaker 2 I mean, I think with Kyle's response to the whole conversation, I mean, Darique came in very just like, hey, it's chill. I just want to know, like, has he talked to you? Cause he hasn't talked to me.

Speaker 2 It's like, has he talked to you? Kyle got weird. And then she started.

Speaker 2 It was like, I feel.

Speaker 1 That was the sound bites, right? That's where I'm like, that's where it sounded like it was more like, I don't know. It's genuine drama, but like the screaming back to forth was too much drama.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I feel like, you know, it's like, you know, yesterday I wasn't eating and hangry and Nally, you know, was mad at me.
I think we're a healthy couple. So we got through it.
We talked.

Speaker 1 We worked through our emotions. If we were a couple housewives,

Speaker 1 we would have killed each other. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I think Sutton was more manufactured than Kyle. That whole, like, whatever performance she was putting on at the table where everyone was kind of like, fuck's going on with her.

Speaker 1 I do stand by that.

Speaker 2 The way that she like spun what Darit was saying to you, I didn't like that where it was just like, okay, fine, we'll never be friends. And like, that's not what Dorit's saying.

Speaker 2 She's like, how can I trust you if your actions, you're saying one thing and your actions are showing another thing? And she's like, yeah, no, it's fine. We'll never be friends.

Speaker 2 And it's like, that's not what she said. She also was like, I didn't say I needed to be the first person that you call, but just a person that you call.
It's like, so you're not a good friend.

Speaker 2 Like, just say it. You're not a good friend.
You don't give a fuck about Darit. You're not there if she needs you.
Like, you are kicking her while she's down.

Speaker 2 And she flipped it on its head and then was just like, no, we're not friends. We're not friends.

Speaker 2 It's like, why are you offering or extending an olive branch or extending friendship if you're also so quickly when it's not received the way you want it to be?

Speaker 2 Then you're like, all right, well, fuck it all. Don't ever call me again.
And it was like,

Speaker 2 it's a grandrous reaction.

Speaker 1 She's a little reactive. But who is she? A little.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 A lot of people aren't, actually.

Speaker 1 Reactive?

Speaker 3 Reactive. On reality television?

Speaker 1 Oh, on reality television.

Speaker 2 They were also at the Viper Room, so I'm sure there was loud music playing in the background. So I will give them credit.

Speaker 1 Sure.

Speaker 3 Question. Have you all been to the Viper Room?

Speaker 1 Yes. I don't think so.
Yes. No.
If I have, but I thought it was funny.

Speaker 2 I've only been one time and it was a Halloween, not by choice.

Speaker 1 That's exactly my experience of the Viper Room.

Speaker 3 I literally, so I walk up to the Viper room. My best friend's like co-worker's boyfriend's band is playing.
So we know it's not going to be good. And so we go, the lady, I have like a boyfriend.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 She's friendly.

Speaker 3 The co-worker was wonderful

Speaker 3 that I met that night.

Speaker 1 She was great.

Speaker 3 But so we go in. The lady like asked me about my bag and she was like, is there anything in your bag? And I was like, no.
And she was like, I don't actually care what's in your bag.

Speaker 3 Just like, if there's anything scary in there, don't open it inside. Just open it outside.

Speaker 1 And I was like, okay.

Speaker 3 And I like literally had just reached in there to grab my ID and she goes, I don't need to see anything in there.

Speaker 3 This woman was either like 12 or 90. I had no way of knowing.
So we go into the Viper Room.

Speaker 1 Honestly, Valentine.

Speaker 3 And then the band that was playing, it was like this most, the most like disgusting, like Led Zeppelin wannabe band in the entire world. They all like took their shirts off at one point.

Speaker 3 The lead singer who was the boyfriend had like the worst voice I've ever heard in my life. Props to them for going up.

Speaker 3 But then they said they had previously gotten kicked out of the whiskey ago for being too risque, which is false.

Speaker 3 But they were like, yeah, we can take our shirts off here, but they wouldn't let us at the whiskey because it was too risque. And I was like,

Speaker 1 yeah, and I was like,

Speaker 3 you guys got kicked out of the whiskey for being not safe for work. The whiskey ago-the like one of the most famous rock clubs like in Los Angeles.

Speaker 5 They're all on the same street.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Sunset Strip. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Like, anyway, that's my experience with the Viper Room.

Speaker 2 Well, Garcel made out with Johnny Depp in the Viper Room.

Speaker 3 So River Phoenix also died there.

Speaker 2 While Johnny Depp owned it.

Speaker 3 That's where River Phoenix died when Johnny Depp owned it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's the Viper Room. Oh, so Johnny Depp doesn't own it.
He doesn't own it anymore, but he owned it for at least, I think, a decade.

Speaker 3 It's like people still go there for like, um, like people are obsessed with.

Speaker 1 I also thought it was getting shut down. It should.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 It's a very intimate.

Speaker 1 Do you think Jeff Lewis is mad that Erica Jane didn't hire him to do his decorate his house?

Speaker 1 I was kind of mad for

Speaker 2 Is he an interior designer or is he more of like a

Speaker 1 architect, builder,

Speaker 1 contractor?

Speaker 2 Because it seems like she's just picking out new rugs and light fixtures.

Speaker 1 And he's like, yes, it's going to elevate.

Speaker 5 Is he going to help you redesign your gold wall?

Speaker 2 No, I've given up on the gold wall. So I've given up on the gold wall and I don't give a fuck about it anymore.
I'm just going to close my eyes every time I'm in the house.

Speaker 1 Plans have changed. Beautiful.
Plans have changed.

Speaker 2 Nap time. Nap time.
Every time I walk in. Yeah.
Nap time. I'm deciding to put my money elsewhere, somewhere more important.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Sorry.
I'm fiscally responsible.

Speaker 1 Whoa. Sorry.
Even though I do really love and support Sutton, I do like Boseman's relationship with Duria.

Speaker 1 She's a good judge of character, I think. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 And I like that she's not like swayed by anything. She stands firm on like how what she believes.
And she's like, I'll say it to your face. I'll say it behind your back.

Speaker 2 But these women will just say anything to say anything.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 And I'm like, that's how you know she's a real businesswoman. She's like, I pick and choose my battles and none of this is worth it.

Speaker 3 Did you call Sutton the real Sutton Shady? Shady? Please stand up. Yeah, is that what she said?

Speaker 1 That was really funny.

Speaker 3 Well, the real Slim Sutton, the Real Slim Sutton, please stand up.

Speaker 1 And Winderie was talking about her therapy with PK, and PK saying, like, this is why I want to get a divorce.

Speaker 2 Well, Sutton kind of did predict that in the sense of what she's been saying, even with Kyle, too.

Speaker 2 But on the boat, she was like, I know that you guys want to co-pare it and you think that things are going to be easy, but there will be a day where the other shoe drops.

Speaker 2 And it sounds like it did in therapy with PK.

Speaker 2 I mean, a four-hour therapy session, A, sounds expensive.

Speaker 1 It was almost unbelievable.

Speaker 2 It sounds like really like that therapist just had no other appointments that day. Yeah.

Speaker 1 They were seeing no other people. Did you book four hours? You booked two hours? You probably couldn't.

Speaker 2 Do you book one hour and then you're just like, we got to add on?

Speaker 3 What do we got to add on?

Speaker 2 Are we doing like team-building activities?

Speaker 1 Is this for like our

Speaker 3 cov lesson and therapy?

Speaker 2 Also, I feel like the therapist should have been like, hey, so it's been three and a half hours. We're actually not getting anywhere.
So maybe let's table this, go home, sleep on it. See you tomorrow.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Are we breaking for lunch? Yeah.

Speaker 1 But also

Speaker 3 crafty.

Speaker 1 What's going on? Do we have an hourly wage? Dorit and PK, like as of today. Like, do we know? I know there were like pictures of Darit with like other people.
Like, what did they do for the holidays?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Oh, great question.
All I've seen is there's pictures of Darit with like other men, but I, we don't know if those are just friends or.

Speaker 2 Like, do I want a pizza for lunch or like a burger?

Speaker 1 Sound both really good. I want a rotisserie chicken.
Also delicious.

Speaker 2 PK, he posted Boy George for Christmas.

Speaker 1 Hmm. Still pushing that.

Speaker 5 We talked about it on the after-show, but I feel like that's.

Speaker 3 Do you know how infuriating it is for my cat to be named George Michael, for James Kennedy to be George Michael's godson, and for boy George to be PK's boss?

Speaker 1 So Dore,

Speaker 1 Darit did say on the after-show, we standing in exactly the same place we were at in the beginning. Ask me in another six months.
Hopefully, I'll have a better answer. Work needs to be done.
Okay.

Speaker 1 But then PK also went on the Hot Mike podcast and said that the way she described his sobriety was harmful. And Dorit spent the holidays with her kids on vacation.

Speaker 1 On vacation.

Speaker 1 So no answers, but

Speaker 1 it doesn't look good. No, no, no.

Speaker 2 I mean, we did see Kyle and Mo all in Aspen with all their kids spending Christmas together.

Speaker 2 So it's possible.

Speaker 1 They're always in Aspen. And they're always in

Speaker 1 Switzerland of relationships. They were together.
And in the same house.

Speaker 2 In the same house. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 They were making it work for the kids.

Speaker 2 They're cooking dinners together.

Speaker 1 And Rihanna.

Speaker 2 And they don't even have like baby kids. Yeah.
You don't even like, most of them are out of the house. She's got one kid that still lives in the home.

Speaker 1 Portia. Do you think they occasionally hook up?

Speaker 2 I was thinking that too. And it's like, why wouldn't you?

Speaker 1 Why not?

Speaker 3 Well, can you hook up when your roommate's in the house?

Speaker 1 Oh, and it's Teddy?

Speaker 1 She's got a hot mouth. No, I mean, an aspen over Christmas.
Yes, Teddy and Kylie are living together.

Speaker 3 And they were roommates.

Speaker 2 One Irish coffee, too many.

Speaker 1 Where's Teddy's kids?

Speaker 2 I think Teddy's back home. She posts her kids all the time.
Like going into her, her dove just got a big girl bed.

Speaker 1 She's like posting her interior design of her bedroom.

Speaker 2 I think she stays.

Speaker 2 I don't think they stay in the same house i think that like they kind of take turns in the house so that it doesn't disrupt the kids like their routine waking up at home it's not going back and forth to where teddy's staying i think they take turns parenting in the house and then she goes to kyle's and he has like a hotel or another house or something

Speaker 1 great okay well he's gonna work for the kids we love that yeah does that wrap it up southern hostality is

Speaker 2 i love it do you and i really didn't think i was going to i've avoided watching this show because obviously i had vanderpump rules and i was like i don't need another Vanderpump rules taking me back circa 10 years.

Speaker 2 Now that I have no Vanderpump rules and nothing to look forward to, the way that this kind of slid in the first episode and I was like, wait, this is so messy. Young people are amazing.

Speaker 2 And then I started the first season and I binged through the entire first season. I'm on the second season.
It's,

Speaker 2 it's so good. Okay.
I mean, I thought season three was

Speaker 2 fine. You know, I mean, Joe hooking up with Luann.

Speaker 1 Well, he claims it was just a makeout. He just made out with her.
I believe that. I don't.

Speaker 1 Do you think they had sex? I think the way the story unfolded before it was on the show gives they did something.

Speaker 2 And listen, I love Luann. I feel like Luann gets what Luann wants.

Speaker 2 I need everyone to...

Speaker 1 That's not true. Yeah, but you didn't.
But

Speaker 2 you didn't go to a bar together. You ran into a bar and you rescinded an invitation.
I'm saying he, they didn't watch what happens live and then they were like, let's go out and we're hanging out.

Speaker 1 I think he just made out with her.

Speaker 1 Just because it was something that you would do. Don't mean that's what everyone else would do.
You're not Joe. You're not Joe.

Speaker 2 And Joe Bradley gets around.

Speaker 1 Do you think he did it for the plot? Or do you think he was like...

Speaker 2 He says he likes older women, even though he's now dating his co-worker.

Speaker 2 Huge MILF guy. I need everyone to tell Emmy that Will sucks.

Speaker 2 Why is she like so jaded by him? They're like, yeah, Will came into the bar drunk and was talking about how much he hated her. And like several people have said this.

Speaker 2 And it's like, why does Emmy not know this yet?

Speaker 2 So what's weird is that like from watching the first season, he was debating whether or not he was going to go to law school or if he was going to continue a career in restaurants underneath Leva.

Speaker 2 And her whole thing was, I want to ring, I don't want to work anymore. I want to have kids and I want to be a housewife.
You go to law school.

Speaker 2 I don't know what's happening in the second season to where now that we've gotten to this full disconnect, because she drinks a lot and she's wild and now she's sober in this season.

Speaker 2 So that's why I'm like, something happened in season two that clearly I am missing because Will's not as awful in the first season as he is this season.

Speaker 2 But also to comment on your girlfriend's body to other people being like, you don't like it. Weird.
That's it's a weird thing for that to be the main focus of your storyline this season.

Speaker 1 Are you gonna go back and watch? Oh, yeah, I'm binging. I'll probably watch too.

Speaker 2 Also, I'm intrigued. Maddie, when the balloons flew away and she had a breakdown, was so relatable.
Yeah, I was like, and the fact that Joe was like,

Speaker 1 Just get more than that.

Speaker 2 That would piss me off even worse. I would cry even harder if that was your reaction.
Like, and such a man's response being like, I'll go, I'll be back in 15 minutes.

Speaker 3 You're like, That's not how these things work. You have to order them in advance.

Speaker 2 And Party City is closing.

Speaker 1 I would never.

Speaker 2 I know you wouldn't. You would have like jumped up on top of that building and caught him.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Brought him back down. Parkour.
I will say they moved very slow while those balloons were moving. They were moving.
They were. He was like, oh, no, the balloon.
They're moving. It's like, you know,

Speaker 2 but no, I absolutely, Maddie, I would have been sobbing right there with you.

Speaker 1 Also, nobody helped her set up that party.

Speaker 2 Yeah, no one did. All he cared about was a sign and then didn't bring tape.

Speaker 1 Like, I would murder for life. Do we know if there's crossover between hospitality and charm? There is.

Speaker 1 Leva Bonaparte is from Southern Charm, made the bar. She owns the bar, which is Southern Hospitality.
Yeah, she owns like three bars.

Speaker 2 I'm kind of annoyed with TJ.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 2 Same thing's kind of annoying to me. He's the reason I like the show.

Speaker 3 I really? I like TJ. He's messing with me.

Speaker 1 I'm always like LT, TJ, hyphenated names.

Speaker 2 Who's L T?

Speaker 1 I don't know. Who's the guy in Southern Charm? Oh, JT.
JT.

Speaker 2 Oh, reverse. JT, TJ.

Speaker 1 JT, TJ. I don't know.
Those guys are always up to no good.

Speaker 1 You're a hyphenate.

Speaker 1 AJ, PJ, PK, CJ.

Speaker 1 I don't know. Something's off.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 What are you trying to hide?

Speaker 1 After 20, you're done.

Speaker 5 I don't know. Envy? That's true.

Speaker 1 No one goes around. I don't say my name is Envy.

Speaker 3 Yeah, and it's phonetic.

Speaker 1 The way it's... I knew the name of the company, NV, spelled E-N-V-Y, because it was a fun play on words.
No one went around being like, hey, Envy. Yeah.

Speaker 1 More importantly, I'm not going around making people call me Envy.

Speaker 2 I do like to refer to Nick as Nikki V.

Speaker 1 I think that's fun. Nikki V.

Speaker 3 Nikki V is close to D.

Speaker 1 Close to Nikki D. Yeah, Nikki D.
Nick Dorka. Who's Nick Dorka? I think anyone with a Nick, you gotta...

Speaker 1 We forgot about him.

Speaker 2 Oh, yes.

Speaker 1 I did, but the way it's said, I was like, wait,

Speaker 2 centuries later. Never heard of that man before in my life.

Speaker 3 Did I ever tell you my brother's name is Nicholas? No.

Speaker 1 Yeah. My mom's name is Mary.

Speaker 3 That's crazy.

Speaker 1 Are you all related? And you're not Catholic. That's crazy.
No strong Catholic names there, Mary. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Well, Lutheran.

Speaker 1 Close.

Speaker 3 But my mom was, my mom was raised Catholic. Oh, there you go.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That makes sense.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Also, one thing I want to say is I do apologize for hyping up Southern Charm. I don't know what the hell is going on this season, but it is been.

Speaker 1 You said it was your favorite show.

Speaker 2 It is. It's up there with like Vanderpump Rules, Southern Charm, and Summer House are like my three favorite go-tos outside of like Housewives.
And it's like this season has been underwhelming.

Speaker 1 I don't even know what the main

Speaker 1 story is.

Speaker 2 We're spending way too much time on JT and Miss Pat. They are not main character energies.

Speaker 2 I do not not understand what is happening and if i have to watch craig pick up his backyard one more time i will lose it and like

Speaker 2 it used to be spicy it used to be fun and i feel

Speaker 2 it was kind of selfish of paige to not to break up with craig now she should have broken with him before filming because again we have summer house that's going to be coming on after this which i think we might be seeing some of that at least or maybe like a pre no because they broke up like last week so everything's just going to be completely fine yeah during the entire season of summer house even though we all know summer house i think is going to be very good good.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. It has to be.
You know, you got Sierra and West. You know, how's that unfold? You got Lindsay's pregnant, you know, you got Carl.
Is he dating? There's a lot of

Speaker 1 Kyle's DJing. You know, you got a couple and two new girls.
There's a lot of meat on that bone. And you look at Southern Charm, and it was like Olivia left.
Last season, it was the whole season.

Speaker 1 The drama really was the Olivia. Taylor.
Taylor, love triangle, Austin, whatever Shep, you know, but that's all kind of been cleaned up, got rid of Olivia.

Speaker 2 And they're trying to like tell us backstory of things that have happened off-camera, like in the past, but I'm like, it's not feeding to the storyline right now. Like, I don't care that they sexted.

Speaker 2 I don't care that she slept, like, one girl slept with Shep and kicked him out.

Speaker 2 Like, it's if it's not going to relate to how their storylines are playing in, or she's not going after Shep in his relationship, then like, what, why are we talking about this?

Speaker 1 It's giving, and it's giving Roni. Yeah, it's giving.

Speaker 2 It's, it's, I think they're just too mature at this point.

Speaker 1 Like, I, it, which I respect. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Like, like, they've outgrown the drama of the show.

Speaker 2 Craig needs an HG TV show. Like I'd watch that.

Speaker 3 You know,

Speaker 1 which really makes you give props to the people at Summerhouse because whether they're having babies or

Speaker 1 whatever is going on, you know, keep it as married. Yeah.
Married couples just they show up and work. Truth.
Truth.

Speaker 3 W-E-R.

Speaker 2 I'd rather watch people let loose on a weekend than just like, oh, well, this is me.

Speaker 1 This is my garden. Okay.
Well, we'll keep watching. That does it for us today.
Obviously, again, sending our love and prayers to all the people affected by the fires.

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Speaker 1 Can't wait for you to hear all about all our guests. It's going to be wild, fun, and wacky.
We'll see you then. Bye.