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The Viall Files

E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions

January 09, 2025 1h 30m Episode 865

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Today we jump straight into all things pop culture. Baldoni’s ‘leaked’ voicenotes, Nikki Glaser’s Golden Globes, Jennifer Aydin v Jersey Mikes, Allison Holker’s backlash, RHOBH, and Southern Charm. 

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Timestamps:
(00:00) - Intro
(03:04) - Water Clense
(8:00) - Household Headlines
(39:09) - More Headlines
(51:37) - Bravo Predictions
(01:00:40) - Chiropractors
(01:02:38) - Vibes VS Stats
(01:06:22) - RHOBH
(01:22:19) - Southern Hospitality
(01:29:25) - Outro

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You're crazy. what's going on everybody welcome back to another episode of the vile files reality recap edition i'm your host nick we got the household here obviously i think we should start this episode by acknowledging these terrible fires that we have here in LA.
It's affecting, I mean, we got Sierras living in a hotel right now and thousands of homes sadly have been burned down. It's crazy.
The skies here now, Los Angeles are full of smoke and clouds. It's a very terrifying situation.
Thankfully, we are okay right now and the rest of the household seems to be okay. But it's a very scary situation, and obviously our thoughts and prayers go out to everyone.
Scary situation.

It is very scary. It is 0% contained as of this morning, and it just keeps going and going, and more fires keep starting, and all of PCH basically was on fire last night.
Theisades village is completely burned to the ground it's very sad it's like i just it's i can't believe it's it's real i mean it's just it's heartbreaking yeah i mean it's it's i've lived in la for what 10 11 years now or something like that there's been a couple years where there's been like days where it's just like holy shit there's a lot of fires this seems to be worse than i can remember it's also very close to home like i was staring outside my hotel window and i could see the mountains over burbank catching on fire and it's just when did you have to leave like what my power was out since 8 a.m yesterday so after work when i got home around like five or six and realizing we still have no power and I need Wi-Fi and food and whatnot. So we packed up our car, our dog, and we are now staying in a hotel.
How long? Do you know? Last update that we got about power said 24 to 48 hours. So I'll be staying there again tonight and possibly tomorrow.
Okay. I don't think this is a normal fire season either.

Like this is clearly.

We usually get Santa Ana winds at the end of August, September.

And that's usually when our fire season is.

This is very unique for it to be happening in January.

But I've never even seen winds in California going 60, 80, 100 miles an hour.

Oh, it's crazy last night.

Yeah, they couldn't drop any water on the fires last night because they literally couldn't get any planes up because of the wind. Couldn't fly helicopters, couldn't do planes at night.
Yeah, it's a terrible situation. The fire just raged all night.
Well, obviously, we are thinking of all those affected, you know, whatever you can do to support. Also, I think people are doing a very good job of evacuating when our officials say that their area needs to evacuate.
And I am just, I'm grateful that people are listening to officials when they say to evacuate. And I just think continue until, you know, this is contained.
It is sad. There's no way to segue from that.
No way to segue from that. So anyways, we'll kick off the show now now i haven't eaten in 36 hours uh so that's fun i'm starting i started a water fast i'm not recommending it to anyone this is not some sort of uh do this with me uh but it is a all right what whatever i have a question what i'm raising my hand why it's supposed to be really healthy for you it's supposed to like decrease your chance of cancer it's supposed to to be really good for inflammation.
It's supposed to be good for decreasing your chance of Alzheimer's and things like that. It just has a lot of health benefits to occasionally fast.
And how long does this last? My mom did it first. I think the original one is a seven-day fast where you just drink water and bone broth and electrolytes.
I'm on 36 hours. My goal is four my goal is like 80 some hours i'm also suffering because he's been nothing but a bitch this whole time to me that's not true i was gonna ask he's the hangriest person i've ever been around he's so mad he's so angry and i'm like you can stop whenever you fucking want last night in I'm like, do you want me to bowl you some eggs?

Because this is insane.

Like, you are being mean to me.

Not even fussy, just mean.

Just mean.

And it's because you're hungry.

And I understand I would also be mean because I am mean when I'm hungry.

But this is, like, intense hunger.

Like, yeah, you really don't have to do this.

You really don't.

And then he keeps complaining.

And I'm like, you can't complain when this was your, you're it was a tough first night it was a tough first night and i was fine it sounds like it was your second night and then i i'm clearly still eating you know like i have to feed river like make so then i'm nick's the cook of the family i can't cook for shit so like i'm also suffering because I'm not eating good food. Like last night,

you had a very nice meal.

Yes.

I made river some pasta

with some sauce

and some broccoli.

And so I had pasta.

I had pasta.

Broccoli.

I had pasta last night.

You know,

it was very easy to cook pasta

and pour some sauce over it.

I have a figure of a less name

other than mean.

So it's less quotable

for like Nick was mean to me

over a hunger fast.

Nick vile.

Grumpy. Grumpy.
to me over a hunger fast. Nick Vile grumpy grumpy over water fast angry I'm fine with hangry you're very hangry breaking news Nick is hangry mean and hangry are two completely different headlines page six reports yeah you're hangry Nick Vile hangry after days long water fast by his choice incredibly very very hangry like the most hangry I've ever seen anyone to walk the planet earth I'm delightful right now that's why I'm shocked That's why I'm shocked.
That's why I'm like, of course it's happening at all. Yeah.
No, last night sucked hard. Nothing.
Just water. No substances.
No nothing. Was it because you could smell food being cooked and you were angry and you couldn't partake? They said that first 24 hours, it's tough.
Honestly, at times, I felt like, oh, you know. And I felt really weak and tired.
It was and tired it was like 7 30 i'm like can we go to bed i do feel like i was a good wife when i did make myself a cup of coffee yesterday morning and you asked how was it and i said it was awful she did yeah so you're not missing a thing yeah yeah it's a fast i needed a cleanse i've been really eating way too much sugar lately these days and i I think my diet Has relatively been not where I feel like It could be or should be It's the new year I figured fuck it Let's try it if my mom can do it Why can't I Did you finish those candies I bought you I fucking crushed those Are there more I had to make myself Save the second pack The two containers are gone The one was gone before I got home. The second one, I was like, I'll wait till tomorrow to finish it.
And then I just crushed them. Am I supposed to? They are hard to find.
Are you offended that I didn't preserve them? I was just like, just so you know, if they're gone, they're kind of gone. But also, Justin, what should piss you off even more about him eating those is that he doesn't suck on them.
He just immediately chews them off. So there is no savor of anything.
Once the sour is gone, you have to. It's the same with cough drops, which I feel like defeats the purpose of a cough drop.
Thank you, because the lozenge is while you suck it and you swallow. I haven't eaten 36 hours.
You guys are just trashing me. I think you're in your Gwyneth Paltrow era, and I'm here for it.
You're in his own broth era. This is a temporary fast.
Do not take my health recommendations. I'm doing this for me.
I don't need feedback from any of you listening. You you're gonna get feedback Good or bad Hey, hey, hey, you in the comments Let us know what you think about Nick's past And how he's doing it wrong Yeah Yeah, anyways Nikki Glaser, you know, once again Crushing life What a change of pace from last year After Joel Coy Yeah Bombed I wonder how he's feeling Yeah he can't be feeling good After seeing Nikki Glaser He shouldn't It was a week of people Just being like That was the worst Golden Globes I've ever He threw his entire Writing staff Under the bus And just expected The room to be with him It's like this Whatever Yeah it was crazy Anyways Nikki crushed Everyone can't stop talking about it she just signed a three-year deal with the golden globes let's go i think she actually signed a three-year deal before she hosted and how it worked like i bet joe i bet he also signed a three-year deal no that's how you know interesting actually interesting enough for the story we that's how they signed like a deal being like the networks or whatever do you want to start that over yeah what are you saying you started like five sentences and didn't finish one of them he's got fluid in his brain give him a break i know it's like i'm guessing no i think she already signed a three-year deal before she hosted the first time i think that's how they normally do it networks for example they have you know if they're gonna let nikki gla're going to let Nikki Glaser host, you know, it's like, hey, we'll give you a shot.
If you do well, we will renew you. I think it was reported she made like $400,000, $300,000 this year.
Next two seasons, she'll make drastically more. So it's like, do a good job here.
And now I think she has signed on for two more seasons. Well, Deadline specifically said Nikki was paid a bit more than $400,000 for her inaugural Golds hosting stint.

That fee will rise significantly, a well-placed source says, if and when Glaser comes back

to host the 83rd annual Golden Globes for the third year in the five-year deal the Golden

Globes has with CBS.

Interesting.

Yeah.

So I think it's like you sign a deal and they have like renewal options.

Right.

I got to say that Nikki did great, but I do have tobs could um maybe do a little bit better job on the um stream next year that's all i was wondering why their angles of the presenters was so off it was weird and then also instead of showing clips from like the actual work that they did that got nominated they decided to do like live location tags of everyone like i don't need to know're like air tag. Did you guys also feel like it seemed like some of the presenters when they went up there, like the, the producer said, just be weird, say weird shit.
They kind of felt like they were all doing a bit of like, what are you doing here? No, but they've done those before and they seem to have land more in the past. And the cell of them, it was just more like, what is going on? I just think NBC knows how to have a live event.
And CBS, sorry. Superior.
Sorry. Is this a live? Okay.
All right. That's just NBC.
You know where to find me. Well, Justin Baldoni's lawyer leaked a voice memo yesterday.
As much as y'all want us to stop talking about this, I also want to stop talking about it, just to let everyone know, but unfortunately it is just... He keeps running his mouth.
Yeah, they're just... His lawyer keeps yapping.
His lawyer's out there fighting the fight in the court of public opinion. So, you know, we really...
We cover the headlines. Yeah, so anyways, his lawyer released a voice memo.
And it's Justin talking about the night of the premiere and in his very uh soft voice and his very kind of he's he's talking about how he was put in a basement is he having a conversation with someone or is it's unclear exclusively justin baldoni speaking to um what he called his dream team lamenting the fact that he was put in the basement on the premiere of his own movie he, per Blake's demands. Could have been one of the most beautiful nights of my life, career-wise.
I literally was sent to the basement with all my friends and family for over an hour. I wasn't allowed to be seen.
She didn't want me anywhere near her or the rest of the cast. You can start laughing.
How do we know he didn't do this this morning? Well, yeah. He sent a voice note to somebody.
They're just playing some recording that he recorded at some point in his life. One day, there's like no fucking time.
There's no proof of when that was. And it's like, she held you hostage in a basement, tied your arms around a pole with zip ties and was like, do not leave this basement or I will kill you.
Like that. My movie premiere got taken away from me and I had to go to the basement.
That's what he sounds like. Why didn't Blake and the rest of the cast want you to buy them for the premiere? I think those are just questions that people aren't asking.
I also have a question about voice notes in general. When you send one, doesn't it usually disappear unless somebody keeps the voice note correct yes yeah so why would they keep this voice note i will say i keep voice notes sure just for every voice for funsies yeah some people keep them but yeah i mean listen you're right like either way i think to your point leah it's just like you know his team has talked about releasing a bunch of messages potentially.
I am, like I said

this on Tuesday, I'm certain that most

of the stuff that Justin sends

out there sounds lovely and very nice.

You see him talking

in this voice memo, and he's got this soft

voice, and he

calls himself an artist.

I honestly believe that he probably,

who knows what, I don't even know what I'm saying.

Are you trying to say that he believes

that this is true?

I don't know if Justin believes

Thank you. I honestly believe that he probably, who knows what, I don't even know what I'm saying.
Are you trying to say that he believes that this is true? Yeah, I don't know if Justin believes his version of the story. I think he has a God complex.
I think a lot of the times when in situations like these, both parties completely believe the narrative that they're spinning. And the truth often usually lies somewhere in the middle.
Obviously, every single situation is different, but reality versus perspective are two different things. And I think his perspective to him is absolutely correct.
Yeah. For sure.
I'm sure he thinks that. Yeah.
But yeah, I mean, what are some of the other things that are people who are defending Justin saying? I mean, I know a lot of people are resurfacing like old promotional assets, like movie posters and like digital media posts that basically saying,

like pointing out the fact that Justin's not in.

Well,

that's ultimately a Sony decision.

And maybe people are out there saying,

well,

Blake influenced them.

But ultimately,

again,

Sony's making that decision.

And I guess my response that is, again, if these accusations about Justin's behavior are true, what would you do? Like, how would you respond? How would you handle it? I would separate myself from him. I think with the lawsuit in general, like everybody has opinions and people are voicing their opinions.
And at the end of the day, we're all just going to have to wait to see how this plays out. Because from my perspective, at least, I'm not going to be sold on text messages and screenshots because there are also so many conversations that happened outside of those.
And so I think that it's going to be years before any, I think both sides think that they're right. And it's going to be years before anybody gets to the bottom of this and like people have their opinions but it's really just going to be like I don't know we need to be patient and like really watch how this plays out yeah I'm going to need something more than like a voice note that's already like what's being said in the voice note was already released in the lawsuit or the complaint that I'm like this is not like new evidence you're just trying to grasp at straws to like pull at heartstrings.
But I'm like, that's not a conversation that's being had. It's a voice note that you recorded.
I've been seeing a lot of people comment specifically on the pumping text message and how like that's a slam dunk. And I'm like, in what world is one text message from Blake saying that you can come into her trailer while she's pumping a slam dunk? It's like, I want to set the stage for the people who think that's a slam dunk.
Like, you start working at a dentist's office, and you're the receptionist, and you have to, you know, you just had a baby. You have to keep going to the break room every so often to pump for 20 minutes.
And the head dentist is a man, and he, you know And you're trying to build that rapport. You're trying to stay professional.
Maybe he needs to come into the break room. You're like, oh, sure.
Come on in. I'm just pumping.
It's fine. I'm covered.
Whatever. Come on in.
He comes in. And then from then on out, he just starts coming in without asking you.
He doesn't even knock anymore. Now he's in front he's like starts to make you feel uncomfortable and awkward and now you're like okay well i was like okay with it that one time when i invited you but now like it's getting really fucking weird and like you just keep showing up and you won't leave the room and like it's i'm i have to take these pumps off and like my nipple might show like no one's no like there's just like i just don't understand how like it happened one time we have proof of her inviting him in her trailer one time while she's pumping and people are like oh my god see she's a fucking liar he never he never overstepped any boundaries wasn't it the accusation more about breastfeeding than pumping in blake's it was breastfeeding yeah which are two.
You can, I mean, as someone who, you know, whose wife just had a baby, it was pumping. You can wear a sports bra and put the pumps underneath and a chunky sweater.
And like, you wouldn't even know anything's going on other than hearing a once in a while. Like you can do it pretty discreetly breastfeeding much different, you know? Yeah.
And so, yeah, they're not even the same, nally made a great great point we're not saying that just that this happened but we're just saying that it is possible that this happened and like i mean i pump at work and like if i'm all set up and everything is like good and i'm covered it's like sure somebody can come in and i'll text somebody yeah come in let's talk let's have a conversation i do that with sierra and allison and all the time i'm just like okay yeah i'm set up come in i couldn't imagine if one time you were like yeah i'm pumping is cool and then going forward every time someone's like la is pumping in the other room i just walked in yeah without ever just checking in or knocking on the door you know it's the same as like yeah doors closed. You knock.
Oh, you can come in the next time it's closed.

You're just like, I don't need to knock this time. We're comfortable.
Yeah. Right.
I don't know. I mean, I think obviously people who are supporting Justin are going to support Justin, you know, I don't think their opinions are going to be swayed.
Just like my opinion of Justin is not going to be swayed. You're absolutely right.
But if you're having a hard time even considering Blake's allegations, like I'm just more back to like Emily said, just ask the questions like, what's the motivation? A lot of people are speculating, oh, the motivation is she wanted to take over the project and then secure her rights to like doing the other movies. That's just like fan theory as far as I know.
Is there any been reports that Blake had any interest in doing that? I know Justin on the red carpet. There's certainly no information.
There are a lot of rumors about in the way that every single situation in Hollywood just turns into a massive pile of rumors about whatever is going on. I think the most interesting thing about this case from a public perspective is honestly, Bethany Frankel had a TikTok about it.
Bethany Frankel has the same lawyer as Justin Baldoni. She does.
She was like, it is very, there are two different cases going on. There is the case the lawyers are fighting.
Sure. And there's the case the publicists are fighting in the public opinion.
I think public opinion is really what's like the core of this as far as the legal battle is going to go one way. Justin's lawyer is doing every talk show imaginable.
And his also client, Bethany, is out there giving commentary on this. Well, Bethany's giving commentary on everything.
And wasn't he Megyn Kelly's attorney at one point? I don't know. I don't know about that.
He's reaching out to all of his clients being like, let's use your platform. I don't know if he was.
He's definitely like a media trained lawyer. He's a media lawyer.
Yeah. I just think it's interesting.
It seems like the other side's handling it very differently. It is usually the people who are more loud, who try to prove they're right.
It's like the people who are like, I'm just going to sit back and do all this like the right fucking way. And I don't know.
That's the people I have more respect for. And he's like, I don't.
He just is like, I don't know what happened. Obviously, I wasn't there.
But it's like he is just continuing to take down the woman, which is like everything he stands against. The PR narrative of this case is that Justin's team is claiming that by the New York Times publishing this lawsuit that Blake is in turn like enacting a smear, a public smear campaign against him.
So it's literally just him accusing her of doing the exact same thing she did. Like he did to her.
He's flipping it. It just like kind of doesn't make any sense.
I guess my question would be Ryan is a billionaire. I don't think he's.
They have a lot of money. A lot of money and power and influence in Hollywood.
That I'm like the buzz about all of this has died down and she still filed a case against him. She doesn't need the money.
She doesn't need to win something over in the court of of public opinion so i'm like she clearly feels passionate enough to scope forward with filing a complaint against him based off of just i feel like the moral corruptness of like what happened on that set and justin's uh co-host liz plank friend of show we've had her on one of my first guests a long time ago uh she again unfollowed him publicly removed herself the show. And I think it's really interesting when you think about it.
Again, Justin's whole platform presumably is about, again, highlighting and using your privilege as a man to uplift and spotlight women. But when you look at it, it was Liz Plank who did that for Justin.
In fact, she has been in the driver's seat. She has a great book book called for the love of man she talks a lot about positive masculinity and things like that and so when she started the podcast with justin it was her who gave justin a lot of the credibility in this space that he made his entire brand about and now she is separating herself from him and then you look at it it's just like well what what women has justin elevated liz elevated justin what specific women has he elevated we don't know shit about his wife we don't know maybe that's a personal preference on her end but maybe she wants to lay low but it seems weird i don't even know if she's been a guest on his podcast you know it's just it i don't know it always seems a bit off and that's again i've met him i had him on the show i had an opinion based off of my.
It felt disingenuous, just an opinion. But this all kind of tracks.
What doesn't track is I just, to everyone, like Sierra and Natalie and everyone in the room are suggesting, it's just like, again, you have to assume Blake, a mother of four who just had her fourth child, is picking or choosing the messiest possible way to fight this battle. when history has shown us that Ryan and Blake have been pretty private, pretty unproblematic, pretty low-key, and for a producer credit, and again, even if Blake was difficult.
An executive producer credit, which everyone knows is kind of just meaningless. It just doesn't add up.
We'll see, as always, but he came out with the leaked voice note. I know lot of people are like what about this here we are addressing it thank you that's nothing for me if y'all were wondering but probably aren't just ask yourself common sense questions i feel like but anyways other things that i am not a fan of would be allison holker writing a teller memoir about her this is a tough story.
We had Allison on about a year ago. We met her a couple times.
Lovely person. Nothing but nice.
But this story broke. It's the cover of People magazine.
It's a picture of her, kind of glamour shot, and then this kind of dark black and white picture of her deceased husband, Twitch. He was hiding so much.
Addiction, depression, childhood abuse. Maybe I just feel personally about this, but I'm like, yes, it's your husband, but I don't feel like that's your information to share.
It's one thing if you want to write a memoir about your life and like your interaction with him, but like exposing him post death of addiction and abuse. I feel like that's just it makesicky.
Yeah. Yeah, it's...
It also says on the cover of People magazine, after the beloved Ellen DeGeneres show star died by suicide in 2022, Holker discovered he was battling scary demons. How she navigated her shock and grief, protected their three kids, and is healing with a new love.
Babe, if I die and you find some mushrooms in a plastic bag, can you just let it go? Yeah, I probably don't feel like I need River to read that in a magazine one day. Right.
Yeah. It's a tough work.
I don't know what her motives are. It's one thing to know that your father struggled with mental illness and sadly committed suicide.
And then it's another to have your mom air out that he was addicted to drugs and she found all these drugs in the closet and all of his scary demons she's airing out. That should be his choice and he's not here to say so.
Yeah. Who is Courtney Ann Platt? She's a dancer.
She's calling out Alison Holker over classless interview and memoir. So, yeah, she posted Alison's post, the People magazine.
She writes, anyone who knows me knows I go straight to the source during a conflict and handle my business. But since there's clearly no shame in being so public, I haven't said a word in two years.
But here I go. I was there the moment you both connected.
I was there the day you got engaged. I stood by your side on your wedding day.
So clearly this is a close friend of Allison and Twitch.

It's a very long message,

but the one most surprising,

I don't know if it's true,

but she's saying that Allison made Twitch's entire family,

including Twitch's mom,

sign an NDA to attend his funeral.

Yeah.

I don't know how you...

How do you look a mother in her eyes

after her son has just died and say,

you can come in, but first sign this agreement and you can't talk about it. And then you publish a book about it.
Because she doesn't want anybody to be able to refute what's in the book. Yeah.
But yeah, but like, it's just weird and sad. It's really sad.
And obviously it's a touchy subject. Like I've never been in this position, you know, and it's like, I don't know how I would navigate it.
I don't think this is the way I would navigate it, but I obviously can't speak until I'm in that position, but it does. And she was, she was very lovely when we met her and she's been through so much.
She's got these young kids. There is just something about this that feels wrong.
And I just know that I wouldn't want River to have to read about her dad. Yeah, I think she's out there saying she wants to help people and she wants to spread awareness.
And yeah, I guess, but at what cost? I don't know if it's coming from a place of wanting to like a hero complex or I don't know, or maybe she's convincing herself of that. But again, like at what cost? At the memory of your husband who has passed and your children who want to have a good memory of their father i think there's other ways to i don't even know what message she's i mean he like wrote in his journal about like things that happened to him as a kid she's like talking about that in this which feels wrong also the gross thing is how he died everybody has a very positive outlook when it comes to Twitch.
He was a really great TV personality on The Ellen Show. He brought smiles to people's faces.
It was very shocking as to how he passed. And to add this to his name and this is what he's going to be remembered for, that to me just rubs me the wrong way entirely.
And I think it's very disrespectful to her ex-husband or to her past husband.

This has been out for a day and it's still all over Instagram.

And, you know, usually when you get a bad reaction, you like start, you turn off comments

and the comments are out there and people are commenting and commenting.

I imagine she is doing what feels right to her.

Yeah.

For sure.

You know, so.

Which is, you know.

It's weird because, like, we we've and we had a lovely interaction and it's just like had i not had the benefit of knowing allison and getting to know her i think my reaction would be far more harsh and far more like just shocked and now i'm just trying to like connect the dots between like the person i got to meet and versus like, you know,

and I agree with you.

I think her intentions,

I'm sure are,

I hope,

I don't know.

It's weird.

It's weird.

Yeah.

It's,

it makes me feel weird at best tacky.

Yeah.

To quote Courtney,

this is by far the most tacky classless opportunistic act I've ever seen in my

entire life.

And the fact that the entire,

anybody who attended his funeral had to sign an NDA,

including her.

That's, that's the real, his brother also spoke out. Do we have that quote? Twitch's brother Dre shared Courtney's post to his Instagram story adding no lies told.
Oh, okay. So he just confirmed Courtney's message.
He also reposted an Instagram story by Katieie paulson who called allison quote a disgrace

and despicable human to do this to a grieving family so that comes from twitch's brother wow

well i feel like it it maybe is hurting more than helping more i don't know and it just kind of

feels icky because obviously i'm assuming she's monetizing the memoir it's not like she's yeah

and the book just came it just it feels like i don't know it's a tough story the most cynical

view of it is that she's using her husband's

Thank you. it's not like she's yeah and the book just came it just it feels like i don't know it's a tough story the most cynical view of it is that she's using her husband's suicide and and her husband's career to sell her book because i know who twitch is i don't know who allison i have never heard of her before today i mean she was on dancing with the stars and had a very great or has a great dancing career there's a variety of dance competition shows on network television i think she's been on a few of them she's successful outside yeah she is very successful outside of her show i mean twitch was definitely more famous and she was most known for being twitch's wife but she has her own individual very successful career speaking of potentially tacky which i don't think so lindsey hubbard is responding to accusations that her birthing well not even birthing announcement, her pregnancy announcement, she monetized it, had a little campaign, and people were upset about that.
It's so fucking weird. It's like you use the clear blue digital test anyways.
Yeah. Like, just tell people about it.
They didn't have to pay her to go to the store and get the one good digital test at the store. This is not the same as making your eight and nine and seven-year-old do a bunch of skits so you can be influencer parents and YouTube parents.
This is like a little- If you get paid for taking a pregnancy test, why not? Please. If my mom said she did that, I would have been like, hell yeah, put that on my college tuition.
All she did was post a photo of a pregnancy test where I'm like, I would do a lot more for a lot less and she got a hundred thousand dollars for that yeah come on now not specifically for that so she got over a hundred thousand for like a year of partnerships copy that centered around centered around her pregnancy yeah which yeah good for her get it yeah it's so weird when people are like how dare you make money off influencing and it's like I don't know I would do it for a free clear blue test I think listen people are very sensitive around kids I mean Natalie and I continue to have conversations about how much or how little should we share about River it's just like now we're more like posting the back of our head and stuff and it's like we don't know the right answers we're cognizant of it there's obviously a lot of opinions out there you know i think that's where it comes from you know we have strong opinions about like we know what it's like to record an ad or we know what it's like to record content we know what it's like to have to do it over and over and over again so every time we see like parent influencers and like young kids or like teenage kids like playing lip syncing or something it's like you know that took so you know that took so many take you know what i'm saying where you had to be like no it's not take it it's take that okay so try that okay and that's our opinion but other people might disagree but you know i think it comes from a place of like parents and kids and there's just a lot of i think strong feelings in that in that department but pop off lindsey hubbard like get your pregnancy money amen i just i think pregnancy i think it's weird that people care so much about how somebody's making money if it's not hurting anybody like why is this whether she's making a brand deal for shoes or pregnancy test why do you care she's like she's all she is monetize the moment that's like the same thing as like let's say they're advertising for like maternity clothes and one of the models is a pregnant woman because she's modeling maternity clothes and you're like how dare you do that you're exploiting your baby you don't want to see an actual pregnant woman modeling these clothes like i would much rather see know that the that the pregnancy test works or like an actual pregnant woman and not someone with a pillow shoved in and shirt. And I will say.
Like in Gleet. I will say, as someone who's been, you know, whose wife showed him a pregnancy test when we had River, you know, the two lines, they're nice.
They're nice. They are nice.
Would you rather them be electronic? But that one that says pregnant? Yeah. That hits home.
You're like. You don't even have to think about it.
You're like, is it? I don't know. It's like the faint.
It's kind of like a COVID test. It's like, I think maybe I got it.
I don't know. But the other one, pregnant.
You're like, holy shit. I think you're pregnant.
It's all caps. It's all caps.
And guess what? We're talking about it. The ad's working.
The ad's working. Clear blue? I'll be trying in the next year, maybe.
We'll be circling back for sure. Clear blue.

I am not the girl for you.

So Jennifer Aiden is cut from.

She got fired.

She got fired.

From the cruise.

After her Jersey Mike's outburst.

Yeah.

Well basically Andy Cohen

came out

and he basically was like

look this is a situation

this is me paraphrasing

where you just

listen to the video

before you post it.

Like think about it.

Think what it might have

an effect on the world. What are you going to get from it? He said, I stand with that oil and vinegar and seasoning mix.
Exactly. And then basically, there was a New Jersey Fans at Sea cruise that was going to happen with Teresa Giudice, Jennifer Aiden, and Dolores from New Jersey.
And she was removed from it. A representative spoke out saying that they made adjustments in order to keep the cruise enjoyable and welcoming for all guests.
Their priority is to create a drama-free, fun-filled experience for everyone. They insisted the decision was neither personal nor an act of canceling anyone as they believe in a second chance and personal growth.
Well, I don't know if you can say you believe in second chances when you're firing someone for their first offense of being you know so it's a little

like well it would make more sense

to say that if like you kept her and people were like

how dare you keep her and they're like well we believe

in second chances but they're like

she's fired but like it's a

preemptive second chance because while they

may remove her from this

opportunity I don't think she is

blacklisted from Bravo opportunities

you know has anyone on Jennifer

Aiden's camp said anything

no she hasn't said anything she hasn't been like

Thank you. opportunity i don't think she is blacklisted from bravo opportunities you know has anyone on jennifer aden's camp said anything no she hasn't said anything she hasn't been like my bad got a little overheated a little overreacted you know i don't know i my take on this is if jennifer aden cannot do housewives duties because of beef with jersey mike's employees jen shaw should never be allowed on television again okay i.
I will say Jennifer Aiden is the only New Jersey housewife making headlines right now. Besides Melissa Gorga.
Well, Melissa Gorga is selling sprinkle cookies and Jennifer is making headlines for being a housewife. Okay.
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Leah, you were telling me about this. What's the big controversy? I don't understand.
I was telling you about this. Oh.
Basically. Sorry.
Rude. Not everybody, but just to save Leah.
I'm sorry. Again, guys, I haven't eaten eaten he's also wearing socks with a big ass aaron rogers face on him that he aaron keeps staring at me so yeah that's so scary kind of scary that's so scary so basically britney nh on tiktok she posted a video of her kid who got a Christmas gift card to Walmart.
And they went to Walmart

and the kid decided to buy a rotisserie chicken.

Love. What's the problem?

Most people are positively reacting to this, being

relatable. She knows her priorities.

Good for her. Good food.

I'll tell you what, as someone who hasn't eaten 36 hours,

that sounds like the right choice.

There's also people saying

that it is a good lesson, but also

the mom should have just bought the chicken at that point. Because it's her Christmas gift card.
I want to tell you a story. When I was a kid, my mom would go grocery shopping, and we have a large family, as you guys know.
And so grocery shopping was a bit of an experience for mom. It was a two to three hour thing.
One of my greatest fantasies as a kid, every time I'd go grocery shopping with my mom, was fantasizing about what it would be like to be locked in the grocery store overnight and have just unlimited access to anything. And I would just go down every aisle and fantasize about what I would eat or could eat.
I never had a fantasy about what toys I would play with at any given store. So yeah, I totally get it.
And if you're a kid and your mom's like, you get to buy anything you want. And you thought I get to buy a whole fucking chicken and it's mine.

That makes so much sense.

And like, why is food not considered an amazing gift for anyone who says like, this is what

I want, you know, like.

I think it's also great that she like gave her the gift card, obviously knowing that

she would want food.

And then it was like, it's kind of her way of being like, you get whatever you want from

the grocery store.

Literally.

Nick, you just unlocked a memory in my head.

Do you remember like Target used to do this thing

for Christmas where you could,

as a kid, grab like the scanners

and create a wishlist by going around the store

and like scanning different objects?

Yeah, yeah.

Mine was always food.

So.

Yeah, there you go.

You're right.

For our Christmas, when I was a kid,

my mom would let us each pick out our own cereal

for Christmas morning.

And that was like, wow. That is a great idea.
It's a good one. And it was like, that's your box of cereal.
No one else can touch it. What if you wanted the same as someone else? Can I get my own box of cereal for Christmas? You're so hungry.
Sharpie the name on it. No, but also as a kid, we used to like, my mom would every once in a while buy what we called sugar cereal.
So like anything like Cocoa Pebbles or like Sugar Smacks. And I would wake up at 530 in the morning and like run down because there wasn't enough cereal in that box to feed all the kids.
Yeah. And then there was a one bowl of cereal rule, which I would often break by like, well, I still have milk.
So it's still the same bowl. You know? Would you buy the boxes or would you buy like the giant bags? Because big families always have like the bagged one my mom did it all like we we you know we couponed you know we had we had to make ends meet but well the bagged ones are cheaper sure but they weren't yeah i remember sitting at the breakfast table with my bowl of cereal and the box in front of me and like playing the games oh my god like that i fun.
I once found a Michael Jordan basketball. I think it was Cheerios or something was giving away basketball cards and I was like, what if I got Michael Jordan? And in the box was Michael fucking Jordan.
It was one of the best days of my life. I mean, obviously.
Obviously, yes. Do you still have the basketball card? No, I don't think so.
I wish. I don't know where my parents did with all my cards.
All of your stuff they keep telling you is at the lake. And they're like, it's up in the garage.
You should look at it and tell me what you want. We'll keep it.
Yeah. Now it's at the lake.
All your trophies, all your medals. Good job, Nick.
Well, James Kennedy returned to social media, and I'm grateful that he did because it reminded me that I was still following him and I needed to unfollow him. So I was grateful for that.
I guess I suppose I should unfollow him. Yeah.
You know, I forgot I followed him because he went ghost. He wasn't popping up anymore, and I just went out of my head.
And then the second I saw that little, I was like, oh, my God, get it out of here. He's posting sobriety coins, so he's celebrating or encouraging himself to stay sober.
He must have unfollowed me earlier. Oh.
Oh. That makes sense.
Meanwhile, on the other side, Allie is posting TikToks of her new Larchmont apartment. Yeah.
So she's moved out. Larchmont.

And he's posting coins, sobriety coins?

Sobriety coins, yeah.

To prove-

So has there been any acknowledgement about his being violent and physical towards women?

From him?

Yes.

No.

No.

This is him returning to social media.

He posted three Instagram stories.

The first one was of his coins.

I'm just so over this whole excuse of-

That read, keep coming back.

Thank you. He posted three Instagram stories.
The first one was of his coins. I'm just so over this whole excuse of- That read, keep coming back.
Then the next was a selfie of him and his dog. Thank God for that.
And then the third was him throwing the ball for his dog or the sunset or the park or something. So glad we got that update from him.
I mean- Okay. But He needs to acknowledge that.
100% he needs to acknowledge it. Get sober.
That's awesome. But like you.
I think the first step. Not every alcoholic or person who abuses substances is violent towards women or abuses women physically.
And like the fact that he's implying that's the case. I'm sorry.
I'm curious if that's like a private conversation between Ali and james because i remember i'm sure i said that like that was just out of respect of ali that some people weren't speaking i 100 hope that that's been a private conversation between him and ali it 100 needs to be if it hasn't but he also does need to address the world because like he's addressing the fans he had followers he had people who supported him and loved him and showed up to his dj sets and he has people who were looking up to him and now he's like shown over and over and over and over and over again that he's still this person who's abusing women and it's like you've gotta he's also addressing the world like you know what i'm saying he's being a public figure and he's continuing to be a public figure and he's now posting sobriety coins and making statements about his sobriety this all of these statements indirectly are ignoring the problem you know which is his abuse and i have a lot of empathy for people who struggle with addiction but that's still in no way ever an excuse to to do that i think he can be allowed to like have his own sobriety journey and like be and people are like more than welcome to like support him in his sobriety but that does not change what he did and what he has not owned up to in that regard you know like both of those things are prevalent and what's frustrating is you know what's going to happen he's banking on time going by and people just kind of forgetting and other stories coming out and then he'll slowly kind of keep reappearing and he'll talk about a sobriety and hope that everyone just forgets about the actual thing that he did which they will which they will right up and throw her across the room yeah and then he'll you know try to get work again and try to be out there and everyone will just kind of be like well didn't you do that thing yeah what's the same thing with like arm so like army hammer has been coming back into the news recently doing interviews and claiming that he's like turning down roles. Started a podcast.
He started a podcast. He's been like on other I forget exactly whose podcast he was on, but he's been doing more public appearances.
And his the kind of narrative that he is like spinning is that, oh, my God, it's so crazy that people thought I was a cannibal. I wasn't actually actually cannibal.
Like, that's that's crazy. That's so funny.
I would never do that. But then the issue was never that he was a cannibal.
It was that he was abusive to girlfriends. So it's like we're spinning that under the rug and he probably is going to make a return because he already is.
And so it's just this infuriating thing where so many men, public men who do these awful things to women are just allowed to continue because they can, like, spin the narrative of, like, what other ever hot-button issue they have that's going on that they're struggling with and then just sweep the rest of it under the rug because they have been getting away with this for years. I mean, Armie Hammer's podcast bio says we feed him before every episode.
Yeah. So.
Yeah, it's like a sleight of hand. Mm- it works bait and switch yeah yeah everyone's more focused about how difficult like lively it's so bizarre it's like people can be difficult people are difficult on sets all the time what does that have to do with but I don't like her vibe like yeah well so in Southern Charm News Craig has addressed his split with Paige This is sad I watched the video He just seems like Such a lovely guy Can we Do we have the video? I will say I'm never one to like Pay attention to Like breakups And things like that And I love Paige Obviously But Craig is one of those If I were single I would slide in those DMs Say that again Say it with your.
I can't because I love my boyfriend very much.

But if I were single.

I did see a headline that said no more giggling.

And all cops.

Not the squad.

Yeah.

Everyone, what's up?

Oh, I figured it's finally time to check in with everyone.

Sorry about the delay. This has all been very very unexpected to say the least i mean that's new information it is my one thing about this video is he is basically being like yeah page broke up with me and i didn't know that that was gonna happen yeah that's the really the only takeaway from this video also that he seems to be.
Yeah, he was like, it's just weird, you know, like go talking to your best friend every day to like not at all, but you know, we'll get there and adjust. And I was just like, I left back that he didn't say anything cruel or degrading about Paige.
He only said, be nice to her, be kind to both of us. But like, he's just, my heart.
Yeah, but the unexpected is a- It gotta be, it's a, it's a, it's not the cleanest video. It's a little bit of a, I do want you to know I was caught off guard and she did it and she broke my heart.
It definitely is not. Paige gave, we broke up.
Well, she talked about it on her podcast. I feel like he, did she say I broke up with him unexpectedly and he's heartbroken and I'm shattered and I'm like at basketball games chilling.
It kind of implied in my opinion listening to her. She was like, you know, I'm not the same person I was when we started dating.
I was 29. I'm in my 30s.
We want different things. So I think it's, you know, it seemed in her version, it seemed just very amicable.
And it sounds in his version, too. It's amicable, but he didn't want that.
People have a right to break up. People have a right to like change.
Decide decide that things don't work out feelings can change they have and it doesn't mean anything nefarious it's just we we live in a world where someone breaks up and everyone's expecting whose fault was it someone's fault or someone did something wrong or nefarious relationship it's either you grow together you grow apart and it seems like neither one of them were planning on moving and he was very adamant about like wanting her to move to to Charleston and get married and all that. And if that's not in the cards for her, I think that that's great that she decided, as much as I love you and would want to make it work, this just doesn't work for where I'm at in my life right now.
Yeah. Who do you think starts dating first? One of my predictions.
Ooh. I don't know.
It's kind of hard because I feel like sometimes when breakups like this happen and one person wants to get married so badly that I'm like, Craig could meet somebody and by December this year be engaged. I could see that because he wants that.
And I could also see Paige coming out with like a hotty headlining. Yeah.
Like actor or, you know, I think Paige is going to be dating someone either super rich or famous. Super rich or super famous.
Absolutely. Austin Butler.
Single. He is.
Kaya Gerber broke up. That is a joke.
Is she down for blondes? What? Is she down for blondes? Kaya Gerber? No, Paige. Oh.
Who knows? I don't know. I see her going kind of like, it's either going to be somebody that we all know.
Or it's going to be a Lindsay Hubbard, somebody that's very successful in their field that wants nothing to do with it. I think it's going to be more of the latter, but we'll see.
Yeah, we'll see. Hugh Jackman.
Hugh Jackman, who is also out there dating and getting back out there after his divorce. Grats, Hugh, and Sutton.
Sutton Foster. Yeah.
I'm not familiar with Sutton Foster. Is she a big deal? You're not? Broadway royalty.
Shrek the musical. Extremely talented woman.
No, she's in... I have no doubt.
She's in a lot. Younger? Oh, yeah.
Yeah. She also had her own TV show.
Tony Award winning. Well, it's a new year.
And so being a new year, we have some possible predictions we are going to guess. Is it all Bravo? Is it Bravo predictions? Solely Bravo predictions.
What do we think is going to happen in 2025? Sierra came up with a list of possibilities that we now get to discuss. People were doing this around pop culture stuff and people were saying that you and I were going to get a divorce in 2025.
That's so rude. She's going to have a second baby and they're also going to get a divorce.
Whoa. You got a busy year, girl.
Paige had some rumors that she had to deal with about, I guess, some infidelity. And it seems like she's had some fun clapping back and addressing said rumors.
Yeah. She's something you'll hear from my lawyer.
See you in court. And again, people always want and need a reason.
Yeah. First prediction.
Paige will announce new relationship with an actor. Yes, no.
Yay. Do I have a timeline with who this year? It's 2025.
2025. Paige will announce a prediction with an actor.
A new relationship with an actor. No, I really think Paige needs Paige needs a non-problematic not a diva this is not about what she needs listen what do we think she will do i think she will go athlete and i think she'll go athlete because athletes have a sense of humor she is funny she needs someone funny a lot of the time a-list actors are like kind of weird they're really serious and.
They're very serious and like kooky, a little kooky.

And I think she might be like, you're fucking weird.

No thanks.

And I think she might go for an athlete who's funny and rich.

Or do you think comedian?

No, I don't think she'll go comedian.

Because male comedian, he would be too funny.

He would like think he was funnier than her.

Also, probably problematic.

Yeah.

Fair.

Yeah.

Athlete.

All right.

Next one. Ramona Singer will return to Bravo.
Unfortunately. Yeah.
Unfortunately. Why are we so mad about it? I think they've got to bring someone back to New York if they're going to try to do another season.
Well, my next one was the new Roni put on pause. I predict shakeup.
I don't know if it's going to be a pause. Okay.
They're for sure going to mix the mix the old with the new. Yeah, they got to mix the old with the new.
Winter House will return. They put it on pause last year.
It was like the eclectic mix of Summer House, Vanderpump Rules, and then last season bombed with Below Deck characters. It'll probably return with more Vanderpump since I chose our own.
Oh, yeah. That's a good call.
Okay, next one is there will be an engagement on Real Housewives of Miami. I'm thinking Lisa.
Lisa's whole divorce situation's messy, so probably. But she's with the rich dudes, so I feel like her season there's a possibility.
Is Larsa still with Jordan? No. As of House of Villains, no, but.
Sandoval and Schwartz will have a spinoff. No.
Absolutely not. On YouTube.
Patreon. On Patreon.
On Fuby.

I've heard that

I think they're still very close friends

but I hear that Tom Sandoval

and his girlfriend are

24-7

on an island. Attached at the hip.

Kind of living on their own.

There's no room for Schwartz anymore?

I don't know how much I don't know how much room there is for Schwartz in this moment of Tom Sandoval's life. Is Schwartz still dating Sophia? Do you know? I think so.
Yeah? As far as I knew, they moved in together. I mean, they're definitely quiet on social media.
So if that means anything to everyone, then they're absolutely broken up and hate each other. Going off of social media.
When was the last time they shared anything? Did they not move in together? No. Anytime Schwartz posts, when he moved and everything, they don't post together in stories.
So they moved in together and now they might be broken up? I don't even know. I don't know.
I think they might just be together. together, but we should get sports back on.
We didn't update. Yeah.
We didn't update. I do have some questions for that, man.
One. How do you feel to look like me? Bitch.
That's actually it. Okay.
I don't think this, but I did see this circulating. Brittany Cartwright gets pregnant this year.
Let's see it. Yes.
Season three Valley. With someone other than Jax? Oh, of course.
Yeah, fuck that. She's definitely not going back to Jax.
I mean, Jax has a storyline of being mad. Yeah.
Maybe also with an athlete. I feel like, yes, yes.
Nick says no. No, I'm rooting for that.
I'm rooting for Brittany Cartwright. What kind of athlete? I'm thinking like rugby.
Maybe, no. I'm thinking Lakers player.
Yeah, like a basketball player. Yeah, for sure.
What about Paige? I see Paige more basketball than... Paige was not a basketball game.
She was. She was a Nick's quarterback.
I don't know who has more senses of humor. I feel like basketball.
Baseball guys are pretty funny and rich. Yeah.
That's true. I mean, those pants don't lie.
No new season of Real Hospice of New Jersey this year. That's for sure, probably.
I mean, Andy already said probably for another year. Pause.
Okay. Kim Zolzak makes an appearance on Real Hospice of Atlanta.
Do we think she's going to come back with all of her headlines? I want her back. I want her back.
She's too messy. Yeah, I feel like she has to come back.
An ultimate girls trip with a younger cast. Women from Southern Charm, The Valley, VPR.
Like, you know, they do ultimate girls trip, but it's like Legacy or like Luann. Like what a younger.
I don't think that would happen 2025, maybe 2026. I think if we put it out there, we're now putting it into Bravo's brain.
I think Ultimate Girl Strip

is on pause

until litigation is done.

Oh, yeah.

We have our...

For my demise,

I love Ultimate Girl Strip.

Yeah.

We'll see.

Okay, this one,

it's really spicy.

I was tired

and it's really bad

but I was like,

Sierra and Craig

get together.

I said,

I don't know why

I feel like this could happen

but I do.

Not you.

You're not projecting

your own... I mean, I'm just asking because like 10 minutes ago, you're like, oh my God.
I don't know. I just something that I always have in the back of my head.
I just feel like they have like this really interesting chemistry with each other, but it's like, yeah, they would have to like literally never be friends. I told you I was tired and feeling spicy.
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I was invited by threesomes. Ever? Nope.
Because. You're always invited.
Not for any particular reason. I just never have.
Mary, they're good. I've been getting massages since kindergarten.
I could probably use one. Especially, you know, I'm often, like the back of my neck goes numb when I'm editing.
That's called chiropractor. Yeah.
My mom told me never to go to a chiropractor. We should hire masseuses.
What's the plural for masseuse? I've been going to one since I was like eight. Me too.
No, literally me too. Every week.
My mom's like, I'm a nurse. Trust me.
And then she's like, chiropractors will just fuck up your back and then you have to keep going back. I think there's a lot of shady chiropractors.
Especially in Florida. I wouldn't go to a chiropractor in Florida.
I think a lot of doctors and chiropractors have beef. They do.
Yeah. Is it Rachel Lindsay's ex-hus a chiropractor in Florida.
I think doctors and chiropractors have beef. They do.
Is Rachel Lindsay's ex-husband a chiropractor from Florida? He is. I am obsessed with chiropractor TikToks though, I will say.
I love watching people get cracked. I love to crack.
I'm sure the NFL has a lot of chiropractor in this season. I'm sure are getting their back.
Crack the fuck up. Wait, I have one more chiropractor story real quick.
My roommate's boyfriend, who ended up also being one of my roommates in Atlanta, was a chiropractic student. And I let him give me adjustments.
And now you're uneven. That's your story? Yeah.
I let Ben Higgins, who learned from his chiropractor buddy, crack my neck.

That's wild. It was wild.

I don't know why I did that. I won't go to a chiropractor

because I feel like when they tell you to relax or breathe,

they're going to crack it. No, I hate that sound

and I'm going to tense up and then I'm just going to die.

I don't know if you heard that in the mic. That's my

irrational fear. It's vibe

football time.

So, do you guys know about the wild

card? Absolutely not. Playoff edition? Okay, so for anyone confused, the wild card.
I'm sorry. Go ahead.
The wild card round of the playoffs is basically the girls, and by girls, I mean grown men's, chance to bring the receipt, the proof, the timeline, fucking everything to the table in order to be greenlit into the next season of the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, or in football's case, the divisional playoffs. The divisional playoffs.
Yes. It's win or go home.
Win or go home. And the playoffs are the Super Bowl? No.
The Super Bowl is the Super Bowl. They turn into the Super Bowl.
So basically, you're trying to get to the Super Bowl. You're trying to get, right now, the wild card are like the teams that are like, kind of not, let's say, theoretically, like Heather Gay is like, kind of phoning in the season.
And she has one chance to get renewed. And this is her chance to get renewed.
Yeah. Okay.
Kind of. Right? Yeah.
It would be more like. Like a friend of trying to get a full cast member? It would be like, for example, like if they have seating.
So if like Kyle Richards was going toe to toe with like, let's say, let's say, a Crystal Minkoff.

And then Crystal Minkoff, who's not even on the show right now,

would be considered the underdog in whatever match of Housewife lore they're competing in.

To get closer for center diamond.

It's Brittany saying, what about me?

Yes.

This is the what about me moment.

Everyone's more confused about football now.

Yeah, I'm so confused now. What's happening? Okay, so it's the wild card.
They're basically just trying to get into the playoffs. No, they're in the playoffs.
Wild card is the playoffs. But it's the wild card division of the playoffs.
It's like the teams that are on the cutting block. I mean, it's just the name.
Whatever. Anyway, so this week we're talking about the Washington Commanders versus the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
And the Commanders are the Dorit Kemsley of the NFL in that they have had a truly magical season in a way that no one thought was possible. That's true.
They also had a name change. They did.
And she has a new accent, so. They're more alike in many, many ways.
In their last game against the Cowboys, they were down three with six seconds left in the game, and their backup quarterback, Marcus Mariota, threw a game-winning touchdown in a shot heard around the world. This is what I like to call the smoking a cigarette in the car while driving through a Bel Air game.
Marcus Mariota, a veteran, reminded the team that he is chic as a wind chime. And he's not going anywhere.
That was a Duri Hemsley reference. Yes.
And then the Buccaneers are the expected winner of the game with a home field advantage. And Baker Mayfield, their quarterback, is their reason why.
He is the Angie Katanevas of the NFL. Passed around, disrespected, looked over, drinks poured on his head, told that he can leave many teams.
But now he is back in a big way, securing his position as center snowflake, or in his case, the NFC South Division champion. So here's the question.
Will Baker and the Bucks have their high body count hair moment, or will the commanders bring the fashion, fashion, fashion? Only time will tell, and only Vibes can decide. Unfortunately, I won't be able to decide off Vibes because I do need to know some, is anyone doing good or is anyone doing bad? The Bucks are are doing, I mean, Baker Mayfield and the Bucs

are doing like really good.

They're both doing pretty good.

Yeah.

I heard Angie Kaye,

so I'm going with Bucs.

I'm going to go with Dorit.

Always.

You're going to go with Dorit?

Whoa.

Soccer.

And the commanders.

F5s want to go with the Bucs?

We have to.

Okay.

I'm from Florida.

Yeah.

Okay.

Are they Florida?

Tampa Bay.

Oh.

Yeah.

Is it no?

Great.

They don't have Tom Brady

on their team anymore.

I thought they were from Greece. Yeah.
Well, Florida is the Greece of Bay. Oh.
Yeah. Is it now? Yeah.
Great. They don't have Tom Brady on their team anymore.
I thought they were from Greece. Yeah.
Well, Florida is the Greece of America. Oh.
It's like a peninsula. Okay.
Well, we'll see how everyone does. Hopefully, the Green Bay Packers beat the Philadelphia Eagles that they're playing this week.
Okay. But just vibes are going Bucs.
Stats are going Commanders. Correct.
Cool. All right.
All right, Bev Hills. All right, we've taken a couple weeks off.

Where do we all start?

Venom in the Viper Room.

All I have to say is I will not defend any hate going towards Sutton.

Really?

I can't.

I won't.

You're Sutton until you die.

I think Sutton calls a spade a spade, and we should be listening to Sutton.

Because she's preaching girlhood.

She's such a hypocrite.

I don't know.

Sometimes girlhood is putting your foot down and just saying BFFR you hate your life right now I think Bozeman of all these women I trust the most no I trust her I do too but I I think she is she but then no no no but then Sutton tried to turn it as like a I wasn't saying like you're unhappy with your life I was just like saying like this is why like things I was defending her I was trying to and just trying to I don't saying, like, you're unhappy with your life. I was just, like, saying, like, this is why, like, things.
I was defending her. I was trying to, and just trying to let her know that maybe that.
And I think she might have said it in a heated moment. Mm-hmm.
What about her behavior in the Viper Room? You stand by that? Look, Sutton is a Southern woman. I don't know.
I don't act like that. What the fuck does that mean? Go on.
I don't act like that. I'm does that mean? Go on I don't act like that I'm gonna leave it there Okay I love that you ride hard for Sutton I can't talk With my allegiance to Meredith So I'm gonna let you go Yeah if there was one housewife That you unequivocally Will have their back no matter what Who is it? Bronwyn New.
Newbie. But I love her.
What about you guys? I am Bronwyn. Yeah.
I'm probably Shannon. Oh, that's a good one.
We should all make t-shirts. I don't understand why at the Viper Room they had Kesha in attendance, but Erika Jayne performed.
That was odd. And it wasn't even a performance.
It was a hype up, Let's hype up the crowd. Put your hands in the sky.
I'm going to mouth the lyrics to my song. Domino.
What? While Kesha was just like chilling when she could have iconically done TikTok on the clock, but the party don't stop. And she didn't.
Wake up in the morning like fuck Pete. She is friends with Kyle.
Yeah. Like before and during the show and after it was filmed.
Like like she is friends with her. And I think Kyle was just trying to prove the point like I could be friends with like a female artist and like it's nothing.
That's why she brought her? I mean she had a confessional. I know she made a joke.
I think they're actual friends. I think that Kesha didn't perform because NBC didn't want to pay Kesha for the rights to use one of her songs.
That's probably true. That is probably true.
I do wish we would have seen more of a performance from Erika Jayne since she is such a performer. It felt like laziness.
Not pizza party behavior. Hands in the sky.
Yeah. Put your arms up.
When Jennifer Tilly was like, yeah, I don't think she's going to be winning any awards for lyrics. She's the best.
My favorite thing about Sutton is her friendship with Jennifer Tilly. I trust who Tilly trusts The dog when she comes in is like hi little dogs And then the dogs start barking and she's running out You know the phantom song that Natalie thought was in Wicked You're a witch and I'm a witch I picture Jennifer Tilly And Sutton singing to each other You're rich and I'm rich and we're rich together You know like long.
They're so rich. They could do a crappy lake.
What's that? It's the Luanne and Sonia spin-off. Kind of like Simple Life, where they go to a town in the middle of nowhere.
It's just them drinking 24-7 and talking to people that don't have as much money as them. Has anyone checked on Garcelle's Beach House that's in Malibu?

Oh my god.

That's a good point. No, I think she's

a little further north

than Malibu.

I think she's up by Oxnard.

But yeah,

she brought her son and shared

Oliver. Yeah,

Oliver's backstory. I don't know if you remember Oliver

from Vanderpump Rules. No, I remember, yeah, the one who was making out with Raquel Lala he didn't make out with Lala but he was like how did he end up on that? that was weird he worked at Las Vegas pump restaurant the way that I understand it is Garcelle got on Beverly Hills through those connections she knew Lisa Vanderpump she wasn't on a season with lisa vanderpump but she like somehow met lisa and then that connection lisa then hired oliver okay at the las vegas one then the raquel stuff happened recently kyle and lisa like talk shit about each other or the other well lisa originally made like lvp made a comment saying like if she wants to have a friendship with kyle she needs an apology or just being like I never got an apology and Kyle was like you're not gonna get an apology but happy holidays happy holidays love that actually from Kyle yeah she was like nobody asked for that what is Kyle supposed to apologize to Lisa for for not defending her against rumors five years ago goodbye Kyle well Lisaanderpump only defends men problematic men i will say i am disappointed in garcelle as a housewife this episode because she had the perfect opportunity to be a housewife in the viper room when kyle was like have i talked to pk have i talked to pk i mean a meme maybe in the last knowing damn well last episode she was like yeah, I've been've been talking to PK.
PK Texas her. And Garcelle was silent.
Garcelle said nothing. Which is crazy because Bozeman had more to say and she's just met these people and she's defending Durie being like, and even then, girl code.
Like, I know Garcelle doesn't like Durie, but in that moment you still could have been like, wait, Kyle, that's not what you told me on the boat. Like, let's go back a little bit.
I will say it's a violation of girl code, but I also don't think that Kyle and PK have anything going on. I don't think it's about them having anything going on.
I know, but it is a complete violation of girl code. It's so inappropriate.
And it's also because Kyle's not communicating with Dorit. So I think it's weird to be like, he's a better friend to me when it's like the only reason why you know PK is through Dorit.
But also, how is he a better friend to you if all you're sending are memes? Yeah. Anytime someone says meme, it's not a meme.
It's not a meme. It's just like a joke here and there.
He's saying knock, knock, who's fucking there over text? It's probably mean memes about Dorit. That's what I was going to say.
It's a form of, well, you know, it's two people connecting is what it is. It may be trivial.
It may be nothing more. And I'm not saying like two people sending memes.
Like you're cheating. Relationships based off of sending memes.
But you're not sending just like a meme and then somebody sends a meme back as a response. You're going to talk about the meme.
You're going to laugh about the meme. Why are you sending the meme? Why do you think it's funny to send two memes? Your husband you're separated with is sending memes with your friend that you're not talking to.
How are you not talking to? Your husband is sending your ex-best friend memes. And Kyle isn't like, hey, Dorit, no, we're not cool right now, but I have heard from PK.
He just sent me this meme. He sent me go piss girl.
I thought it was weird. I didn't want to let you know because I know we're not talking right now, but I want you to know where I stand, and that's with you.
Kyle would have lost her. I don't even know Kyle that well.
I don't know Kyle at all. I've never met her.
I met her once. And she was lovely.
But I don't know her at all. I just know her through Housewives.
But the Kyle I've watched is someone who I think pissed. Yep.
So pissed. So she's 100% breaking girl code in my opinion and playing dumb about it.
I am glad they went around the table and all of them were like yeah i wouldn't do that yeah that's fucking weird yeah no thanks and then kyle kind of like lost her shit yeah on dorit which felt when she was like can you not yell at me so your veins are popping out of your forehead i was like damn and then the rest of the episode is kyle screaming with her veins popping out of her forehead dorita's is really on one yeah do you Yeah. Do you think it's manufactured? In what way? Like this specific argument, I was like, are we really getting that mad? Like them screaming at each other.
Over the meme? Being like, don't talk to me that way. I mean, I think.
Yeah, the meme's valid, but like the after part, I was like, now we're just like screaming to like make sound bites. I don't know if they know the difference.
Yeah. I think they just.
I think they're also lost in the sauce of like perception show versus reality at this point. I mean, I think with Kyle's response to the whole conversation, I mean, Dorit came in very just like, hey, it's chill.
I just want to know, like, has he talked to you? Because he hasn't talked to me. So, like, has he talked to you? Kyle got weird.
And then she started. It was like, I feel like.
That was the sound bites, right? That's where I'm like, that's where it sounded like it was more like, I don't know. It's genuine drama.
But like screaming back to forth was too much drama? I don't know. I feel like it's like yesterday I wasn't eating and hangry, and now he was mad at me.
I think we're a healthy couple, so we got through it. We talked.
We worked through our emotions. If we were a couple housewives, we would have killed each other.
I think Sutton was more manufactured than Kyle. That whole like whatever performance she was putting on at the table where everyone was kind of like what's going on with her? I do stand by that.
I agree. The way that she like spun what Dorit was saying to you I didn't like that where it was just like okay fine we'll never be friends and like that's not what Dorit's saying.
She's like how can I trust you if your actions you're saying one thing and your actions are showing another thing and she's like yeah no it's fine we'll never be friends and it's like that's not what Dorit's saying she's like how can I trust you if your actions you're saying one thing and your actions are showing another thing she's like yeah no it's fine we'll never be friends and it's like that's not what she also was like I didn't say I needed to be the first person that you call but just a person that you call it's like so you're not a good friend like just say it you're not a good friend you don't give a fuck about Dorit you're not there if she needs you like you are kicking her while she's down and she flipped it on its head and then was just like no we're not friends we're not friends it's like why are you offering or extending an olive branch or extending friendship if you're also so quickly when it's not received the way you want it to be then be like alright well fuck it all don't ever call me again and it was like it's a it's a it's a it's a it's a it's a it's a it's a it's a it's a it's a it's a it's a it's a it's a it's a it's a it's a it's a it's a it's a it's a it's a it's a it's a it's a it's a a little a little yeah a lot of people aren't actually reactive reactive on reality television oh on reality they were also at the viper room so i'm sure there was loud music playing in the background so i will give them credit for sure question have you all been to the viper room yes i don't think yes no if i have but i thought it was funny i've only been one time and it was a halloween not by choice i that's exactly my experience of the viper room i literally so i walk up to the viper room my best friend's like co-workers boyfriend's band is playing so we know it's not gonna be good and so we go the lady i have like his boyfriend she's friendly the co-worker was wonderful that that i met that night she was great but so we go in the lady like asked me about my bag and she was like is there anything in your bag and i was like no and she was like i don't actually care what's in your bag just like if there's anything scary in there don't open it inside just open it outside and i was like okay and i like literally had just reached in there to grab my id and she goes i don't need to see anything in there this woman was either like 12 or 90 i had no way of knowing so we go into the vi the Viper Room. Honestly valid.
And then the band that was playing, it was like the most disgusting Led Zeppelin wannabe band in the entire world. They all took their shirts off at one point.
The lead singer who was the boyfriend had the worst voice I've ever heard in my life. Props to them for going up.
But then they said they had previously gotten kicked out of the Whiskey A Go- go-go for being too risque which is false but they were like yeah we can take our shirts off here but they wouldn't let us at the whiskey because it was too risky and i was like yeah and i was like you guys got kicked out of the whiskey for being not safe for work the whiskey a go-go though like one of the most famous rock clubs like in Los Angeles. They're all on the same street.

Yeah.

Sunset Strip.

Yeah.

Anyway, that's my experience with the Viper Room.

Well, Garcelle made out with Johnny Depp in the Viper Room.

River Phoenix also died there.

While Johnny Depp owned it.

That's where River Phoenix died, when Johnny Depp owned it.

Yeah, that's the Viper Room.

Oh, so Johnny Depp doesn't own it anymore.

He doesn't own it anymore, but he owned it for at least, I think, a decade.

It's like people still go there for like, people who are obsessed with deaths. I also thought it was getting shut down.
It should. It's a very intimate...
Do you think Jeff Lewis is mad that Erica Jane didn't hire him to decorate his house? I was kind of mad for Jeff. Is he an interior designer, or is he more of like an architect, builder, contractor.
Because it seems like she's just picking out new rugs and light fixtures. And he's like, yes.
It's going to elevate. Is he going to help you redesign your gold wall? No, I've given up on the gold wall.
So I've given up on the gold wall and I don't give a fuck about it anymore. I'm just going to close my eyes every time I'm in the house.
Plans have changed. Beautiful.
Plans have changed. Nap time.
Nap time. Every time I walk in.
Yeah.

Nap time.

I'm deciding to put my money elsewhere somewhere more

important.

Okay.

Yeah.

Sorry.

I'm fiscally responsible.

Whoa.

Sorry.

Even though I do really love

and support Sain,

I do like Bozeman's relationship

with Duri.

She's a good judge of character,

I think.

Yeah.

And I like that she's not

swayed by anything.

She stands firm on what she believes and she's like, I'll say it it to your face I'll say it behind your back but these women will just say anything to say anything yeah and I'm like that's how you know she's a real businesswoman she's like I pick and choose my battles and none of this is worth it did she call Sutton the real Sutton shady please stand up yeah that was really funny well the real slim Sutton the real slim Sutton please stand up and And when Dorit was talking about her therapy with PK and PK saying, this is why I want to get a divorce. Well, Sutton kind of did predict that in the sense of what she's been saying, even with Kyle, too.
But on the boat, she was like, I know that you guys want to co-parent and you think that things are going to be easy, but there will be a day where the other shoe drops and it sounds like it did in therapy with PK. I mean, a four-hour therapy session, A, sounds expensive.
B, it sounds almost unbelievable. It sounds virtuous.
It seems like brilliant. Like that therapist just had no other appointments that day? Yeah.
They were seeing no other patients? Do you book four hours? Do you book two hours? You probably could. Do you book one hour and then you're just like, we got to add on.
We got to add on. Are we doing like team building activities? Is this like an improv lesson in therapy? Also, I feel like the therapist should have been like, hey, so it's been three and a half hours.
We're actually not getting anywhere. So maybe let's table this.
Go home. Sleep on it.
See you tomorrow. Yeah.
Are we breaking for lunch? Yeah. But also hourly.
Is there crafty? What's going on? Do we have an update on Dorit and PK as of today? Like, do we know? I know were like pictures of Dorit with like other people. Like what did they do for the holidays? Yeah.
Great question. All I've seen is there's pictures of Dorit with like other men.
But we don't know if those are just friends or. Like do I want a pizza for lunch or like burger? Sound both really good.
I want a rotisserie chicken. Also delicious.k he posted boy george for christmas still pushing that we talked about it on the after show but i feel like that's it's do you know how infuriating it is for my cat to be named george michael for james kennedy to be george michael's godson and for boy george to be pk's boss so dorit did say on the after show we stand in exactly the same place we were at in the beginning.
Ask me in another six months. Hopefully I'll have a better answer.
Work needs to be done. Okay.
But then PK also went on the Hot Mike podcast and said that the way she described his sobriety was harmful. And Dorit spent the holidays with her kids on vacation.
On vacation. So no answers, but it doesn't look good.
No, no, no. I mean, we did see Kyle and Moe all in Aspen with all their kids spending Christmas together.
So it's possible. They're always in Aspen.
And they're always together. Aspen is like the Switzerland of relationships.
But they were together. And in the same house.
In the same house. That's what I'm saying.
They're making it work for the kids. They're cooking dinners together.
And Rihanna. And they don't even have like baby kids.
Yeah. You know what I mean? Like most of them are out of the house.
She's got one kid that still lives in the home. Portia.
Do you think they occasionally hook up? I was thinking that too. And it's like, why wouldn't you? Why not? Well, can you hook up when your roommate's in the house? Oh, and it's Teddy.
She's got a hot mouth. No, I mean in Aspen over Christmas.
Yeah, Teddy and Kyle are living together. And they were roommates.

One Irish coffee, too many.

Where's Teddy's kids?

I think Teddy's back home.

She posts her kids all the time.

Like going into her,

her dove just got a big girl bed.

She's like posting like her interior design

in her bedroom.

I think she stayed,

I don't think they stay in the same house.

I think that like they kind of take turns

in the house so that it doesn't disrupt the kids.

Like their routine, waking up at home, it's not going back and forth to where Teddy's staying. I think they take turns parenting in the house.
And then she goes to Kyle's. And he has a hotel or another house or something.
Great. Okay.
Making it work for the kids. We love that.
Does that wrap it up? So the nostality is... I love it.
Do you? I do too. And I really didn't think I was going to.
I've avoided watching this show because obviously I had Vanderpump Rules and I was like, I don't need another Vanderpump Rules taking me back circa 10 years. Now that I have no Vanderpump Rules and nothing to look forward to, the way that this kind of slid in the first episode, and I was like, wait, this is so messy.
Young people are amazing. And then I started the first season and I binged through the entire first season.
I'm on the second season. It's, it's so good.
Okay. I mean, I thought season three was, uh, fine.
You know, I mean, Joe. Hook it up with Luann.
Well, he claims it was just a make out. He just made out with her.
I believe that. I don't.
You think he, you think they had sex? I think the way the story unfolded before it was on the show gives they did something. And listen, I love Luann.
I feel like Luann gets what Luann wants. I need everyone to- That's not true.
Yeah, but you didn't go to a bar together. You ran into a bar and you rescinded an invitation.
I'm saying they didn't watch what happens live and then they were like, let's go out and we're hanging out. I think you just made out with her.
That's Just because it was something that you would do does not mean that's what everyone else would do. You're not Joe.
You're not Joe and Joe Bradley gets around. Do you think he did it for the plot or do you think he was like He says he likes older women even though he's now dating his co-worker.
Huge milf guy. Huge milf guy.
I need everyone to tell Emmy that Will sucks. Why is she like so jaded by him? They're like, Will came into the bar drunk and was talking about how much he hated her.
And like several people have said this. And it's like, why does Emmy not know this yet? So what's weird is that like from watching the first season, he was debating whether or not he was going to go to law school or if he was going to continue a career in restaurants underneath Leva.
And her whole thing was, I want to ring. I don't want to work anymore.
I want to have kids and I want to be a housewife. You go to law school.
I don't know what's happening in the second season to where now that we've gotten to this full disconnect because she drinks a lot and she's wild and now she's sober in this season. So that's why I'm like, something happened in season two that clearly I am missing because Will's not as awful in the first season as he is this season, but to comment on your girlfriend's body to other people being like you don't like it.
Weird. It's a weird thing for that to be the main focus of your storyline this season.
Are you going to go back and watch? Oh yeah, I'm binging. I'll probably watch too.
Also, I think Maddie, when the balloons flew away and she had a breakdown was so relatable. And the fact that Joe was like,

that would piss me off even worse. I would cry

even harder if that was your reaction.

And such a man's response being like, I'll go,

I'll be back in 15 minutes. Be like, that's

not how these things work. You have to order

them in advance. And Party

City is closing. I would never.

I know you wouldn't. You would have like jumped up

on top of that building and caught him.

Brought him back down. Parkour it.

I will say they moved very slow while those balloons were. They were.
They were like, oh no. Balloons are moving.
I was like, yeah. But no, I absolutely Maddie, I would have been sobbing right there with you.
Also, nobody helped her set up that party. Yeah, no one did.
All he cared about was a sign and then didn't bring tape. Like, I would murder for less.
Do we know if there's crossover between hospitality and charm? There is. Well, Leva.
Leva Bonaparte is from Southern Charm, made the bar, she owns the bar, which is Southern hospitality. She owns like three bars.
I'm kind of annoyed with TJ. Okay.
He's kind of annoying to me. He's the reason I like the show.
Really? I like TJ. He's masculine.
Because we have, I'm always like LT, TJ, LT, TJ I have a name Who's LT? I don't know Who's the guy in turn of charm? JT? JT? Oh reverse JT, TJ I don't know Those guys are always up to no good You're hyphenate? AJ, PJ PK I don't know Something's off What are you trying to hide? Your name? After 20 You're done I don't know. Something's off.
What are you trying to hide?

Your name?

After 20, you're done.

I don't know.

Envy?

That's true.

No one goes around.

I don't say my name is Envy.

Yeah, and it's phonetic.

I need the name of the company Envy, spelled E-N-V-Y, because it was a fun play on words.

No one's going around being like, hey, Envy.

More importantly, I'm not going around making people call me Envy.

I do like to refer to Nick as Nikki V.

I think that's a good thing. around being like, hey, Envy.
More importantly, I'm not going around making people call me Envy.

I do like to refer to Nick as Nicky V.

I think that's fun. Nicky V.

Nicky V is great. Close to Nicky D.

Nicky D. Nick Dorka?

I think anyone with a Nick, you got it.

Love is Blind. Yeah, we forgot about him.

Oh, yeah, sorry. I did, but the way it's said, I was like, wait.

I was like, never heard of

that man before in my life. Nick, did I ever tell you my brother's name is Nicholas? No.
Yeah. My mom's name is Mary.
That's crazy. Are y'all related? Well, shit.
And you're not Catholic. That's crazy.
Nope. Strong Catholic names there, Mary.
Yeah. Well, Lutheran.
Close. But my mom was raised Catholic.
Oh, there you go. Yeah.
Makes sense. Also, one thing I want to say is I do apologize for hyping up Southern Charm.
I don't know what the hell is going on this season, but it is. You said it was your favorite show.
It is. It's up there with like Vanderpump Rules, Southern Charm and Summer House are like my three favorite go to's outside of like Housewives.
And it's like this season has been underwhelming. Yeah.
I don't even know what the main story is. We're spending way too much time on JT and Miss Pat.
They are not main character energies. I do not understand what is happening.
And if I have to watch Craig pick up his backyard one more time, I will lose it. It used to be spicy.
It used to be fun. The first season is insane.
It was kind of selfish of Paige to not break up with Craig now. She sort of broke up with him before filming.
Again, we have summer house that's going to be coming on after this which I think we might be seeing some of that at least or maybe like a pre no because they broke up like last week so everything's just gonna be completely fine yeah during the entire season of summer house even though we all know summer house I think is gonna be very good oh yeah it has to be you know you got Sierra and uh West You know, how's that unfold? You got Lindsay's pregnant.

You know, you got Carl.

Is he dating?

There's a lot of, you know, Kyle's DJing.

You know, you got a couple of two new girls.

There's a lot of meat on that bone.

You look at Southern Charm and it was like Olivia left last season.

It was the whole season.

The drama really was the Olivia Taylor Taylor love triangle, Austin, whatever Shep, you know, but that's all kind of been cleaned up, got rid of Olivia. And they're trying to like, tell us backstory of things that have happened off camera, like in the past.
But I'm like, it's not feeding to the storyline right now. Like, I don't care that they sexted.
I don't care that she slept. Like one girl slept with Shep and kicked him out.
Like it's, if it's not going to relate to how their storylines are playing in, or's not going after Shep in his relationship, then, like, why are we talking about this? It's giving Roni. Yeah, it's giving.
I think they're just too mature at this point. Which I respect.
Yeah. Yeah.
Like, they've outgrown the drama of the show. Craig Meade's an HGTV show.
I'd watch that. Which really makes you give props to the people at Summer House, because whether they're having babies or whatever's going on, you know, married, married couples, they show up and work.
Truth. Truth.
W-E-R. I'd rather watch people let loose on a weekend than just like, oh, well, this is me.
This is my garden. Okay.

Well, we'll keep watching.

That does it for us today.

Obviously, again, sending our love and prayers to all the people affected by the fires.

If you are in any way able to help, whether it's through donations or however you can,

obviously look to do that.

We will be back next week with an explosive week.

Can't wait for you to hear all about all our guests.

It's going to be wild, fun, and wacky. We'll see you then.
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