E912 - Giacomo Gianniotti, Iliza Shlesinger, RHOBH Reunion, White Lotus, and Sydney Sweeney’s Breakup

what's going on everybody welcome back to another episode of the vile files reality recap edition i am your host nick and i have a small bone to pick with the movie beauty and the beast oh my goodness we watched it last night with river we decided to call up in bed it's fun it was cute it was great i haven't seen it in a long time good movie yeah but in the beginning of the movie the story is is like the young prince was like kind of a prick and then the witch came turned him into a beast yada yada yada and then they're like then there's this flower that wilts away and then on his 21st birthday like he has to fall in love or he's a beast forever yeah and then they're like as the years have gone by and i'm like wait are you telling me like how old was this prince when he answered the door by himself and a witch showed up like where where is his parents no mention he this what how many years went by you know what i'm saying like they made it seem like his 21st birthday yeah it's not wrong i looked up a guide to the potholes in beauty and the beast and the first one is 10 years we've been rusting dot dot dot dot, dot. How old was this prince? 11.
He was a boy. He was just a boy.
Yeah, it's like the witch turned him into a beast because he was a spoiled little brat. Well, if we want to get into it, Snow White was 14.
And Ariel was 15. Yeah.
Disney, do better. I mean, I'm not, like, fine, I get it.
They're teenagers. I'm just saying, why is this prince alone in a castle by himself with a bunch of servants? Do they specify how many years go by? They just say as the years.
As the years gone by. Implying 30.
You know? Maybe he ages differently in beast years. Well, so Lumiere and Be Our Guest says for 10 years we've been rusting.
10 years. Oh, so 10 years.
So he was 11. 10, no.
10? Because he's not 21 yet. Because he's not 21 yet.
Oh. Well, in Game of Thrones, that little boy prince sucked.
And he was, what, like 13, maybe 12? So maybe the time period? Fine. Oh, yeah, ages were different.
You know, this is the past. It's like, where is the king and queen? I don't know.
He did turn into a beast for 10 years. And they didn't care.
I'm like, think about just like growing pains, you know? And I snapped at you and I don't know why. Maybe we couldn't add that.
Maybe he ate them. I don't know.
Disney has tragic family or parents dying stories in every movie. As River gets older and we go back and rewatch some movies, I'm paying attention, Disney.
Anyone remember the movie Spirit? With that horse? The saddest one ever to exist. With the horses? That movie is so sad.
Horse movies are so sad. First of all, Nick was like, I've never heard of that movie.
Second of all, I can't find it anywhere. I have it on DVD.
You want DVD you want a horse movie in Cry Black Stallion I also have it on DVD but it's not on any and like when was it made I thought it was made in the 90s 2002 and it's also on Peacock it's DreamWorks I think right it's on Peacock that's what it says there you go babe if you really want to revisit that and cry I think no I think Nick's dad like showed me a clip of it I'm'm like, that's not it. That looks way too like animated.
They did remake it though recently. So there's two versions of it now.
They've remade spirit? We need an animation remake? No, it's like a real horse. I get way more.
What? Well, there's that one side too. Then Nally, before he turned on Beauty and the Beast, turned on The Lion King 2.
And then she turned it on. I was like, wow, this is low budge.

They really mailed this one in.

Not too much on The Lion King 2.

I don't think we need to do sequels for-

Animated movies.

Direct-to-home video sequels raise children.

Yeah, to be fair.

At least me.

Lion King 1 1⁄2, you get Timon and Pumbaa,

just goofing off.

And then Lion King 2, you get Scar's hot child.

Wait, Scar and a kid? We didn't get that far. Yeah, Scar's like, that's the whole thing of Lion King 2.
Or like a nephew. I haven't seen it since I was young.
But it's like Simba. It's like Simba's kid.
My daughter won't be allowed to watch such trash, low budget movies. And Scar's kid is like emo.
Well, don't start her off on live action because those aren't much better. Rob Minkoff had nothing to do The Lion King 2.
He would not make such low quality. I hope that's true.
Can we make sure he's not in the credits? I was going to say, are you sure? I think he owns everything that has to do with it. I stand by it.
It's a good movie. You grew up on The Lion King 2.
I had it on DVD for some reason. Obviously, Lion King was the preferred.
Sure. But sometimes you watch Lion King enough and you're like, ah.
Just like the opening sequence.

It's like, these are not the same quality animals.

Yeah.

I also like the Santa Claus 2 more than the first Santa Claus.

Oh, same.

Yeah.

The second one's better.

The second one is better.

You get Toy Soney, you get Molly Shannon.

Fievel Goes West, better than American Tail.

Period.

I don't know.

He was the video game co-director on the Lion King 2 Simba's Pride.

So something tells me he has a hand in Lion King 2. It is Simba's Pride.
He didn't direct it, though. He didn't direct it, but he was associated.
He was at the Mufasa premiere. I only saw this first three minutes.
Maybe it gets better. Now that I'm getting everyone mad at me.
A lot of people are also mad at me after having Joel Kimbooster on, particular can't we all just move on and get along if i'm shannon i i think i'm a little disappointed i listen i i wasn't taking back i just i just didn't feel the need to like crucify the guy he said he was sorry it was more so just like you were so we all were so harsh on him i was really i said some really hard and then whenever he's sitting in front of you it was just very like he he ha ha you're my best you were all good not a lot of like like we are all good sure personally but like to the audience it seems very you could have been like listen man like still don't agree with your choice of words and the things that i didn't agree he said he was like wrong for doing i'm supposed to put him on trial after that and he was a fun guest he was i love joel i just don't see the need to you know it's just like well i'm sorry well just so you know you know like sometimes when people are like i don't want to like letit you know where it was like grant's like my bad And then she's just like Just so you know It's just, like sometimes when people are like, I don't want to like let it, you know, where it was like, grants, like my bad. And then she's just like, just so you know, I'm like, it's just like, what do you want me to like? It's not my, not my fight.
You know, like I still agree. It was really harsh and really inappropriate for him to say.
He said as much. What am I like? I don't like, what am I supposed to ban him from the show forever? Because I think you handled a lot of respect for Joel being in person, I could see why Shannon might be like wait didn't he just have my back and now I still have a flip flopping when he's in front of him I'm not agreeing with Joel's choices of words against Shannon but like he says he was sorry I was like Shannon's my queen but like I will say I very much enjoyed Joel I believe in giving everyone grace Yeah Joel Kim Booster And Shannon Bedore Are we like Let's We've all said things In the heat of the moment Has Shannon Not said things to people And have to apologize Are we like Are we no longer friends With these people Like come on I'm curious if she'll say something Because he made it sound like They're fully made up But I've never seen like a Well he didn't make it seem like they were fully made up but it was like a you know I apologize we may never be close friends but like I felt like it was like you know we've moved on.
Oh yeah he taught me a new word in that sentence reticence but he said I understand her reticence and not accepting it at face value or like maybe thinking that it's not as genuine but he did apologize.. I don't know.
So. Great word.
It's like Doree saying intimate. Oh, my God.
Shannon, if you're listening, Natalie has your back. She thinks I like JoL.
That's why I was sitting very stoically for a while. And then I said, and what is your relationship like with Shannon today? Because I wanted to hear what he was going to say about my girl, Shan.
And he polite. I mean, what are you going to do? Also, Tom Sandoval and Victoria were on Going Deeper yesterday.
If you haven't listened, you should check it out. What did you...
Nally was not here, and it wasn't because of the last interview. No.
I felt like... It was a great interview.
I'm happy for him. I feel like people...
It's time to move on. He seems to be doing some work.
I'm not saying he's like this completely changed man, but I will say, I think you could do far, far worse than having a friend like Tom. I do.
He's definitely not perfect. I'm not sure I would still want him to date my sister or anything like that, you know, but I don't know.
He's growing. He's got Victoria to keep him in line.
You know, I'm glad that they're happy. And I think it's a good interview.
I think you guys should check it out if you haven't listened to it already. I mean, the man's, you wanted the guy to take accountability.
You wanted him to make some meaningful changes in his life. And you can decide for yourself whether he's done that.
Who else have we pissed off? This week or this year? I don't know. Well know Well who do we have on today Let's see who we could piss off today Well our guest today It's a fun episode We have Giacomo You know him from Grey's Anatomy And Wild Cards I'm not even nervous to say his last name I'm very nervous to say his last name.
How do you say his last name? Giacomo Gianotti.

Giacomo Gianotti.

You just got to just say it, right? Giacomo Gianotti.

Can you say it without an accent?

I don't think I can. Giacomo Gianotti.
You have to say it with an accent.

You have to. It's a double N, yeah.

Giacomo. He's from Rome.

How do you know you're getting the accents right, you know?

Did his parents just know he was going to be sexy?

Probably. Probably.

You can't name your kid Giacomo without being like you gotta be hot. An Italian alliteration.
Yeah. It doesn't get much hotter than that.
Giacomo. Giacomo.
Giacomo. My name is Giacomo.
For sure. He is with us to talk about season two of Wild Cards.
And also next week, I believe Kyle Richards makes an appearance on Wild Cards. So it'll be fun to talk with him.
obviously reminisce about his time on Grey's Anatomy, which I know many of you are big, big fans of. Also, we got Eliza Schlesinger with us as well.
I'm sure you've seen a lot of her stand-up. She's got a new stand-up out now on Amazon.
And we are very excited to talk with her later in the episode. We watched White Lotus in preparation for the finale, which I guess is like 90 minutes long.
It is. Like that.
I really. Yeah, we need a good long finale.
You need to make sure we're covering all our holes. Natalie thought she had cracked the case.
I thought I had cracked the case and then I'm scrolling on TikTok and it's like one after the other and I'm reading the comments and everyone's like, I thought of this. Me and my husband were saying this.
I think it's like the most obvious. So that's why I feel like maybe they won't do it, you know, because it is like the most obvious.
Well, anyways, give the people the obvious. So the obvious finale would be that Sritala, the owner of the hotel, is going to send the police back to the White Lotus, the hotel that everyone is at, to get Rick because he pointed the gun at her husband.
He pushed her husband over. She realizes he's not who he said he was.
She sends the police to the White Lotus. And we have Valentin and his Russian friends who did the robbery, we found out.
They are all like, oh my God, the police are coming for us. We have Timothy Ratl timothy ratliff the father who is like oh my god they're coming for me for my taxes who keeps fantasizing about killing himself and his entire family correct yes was he going to do that like he went to go get the gun i think he was he was like ready to go you know what fuck these people yeah that's dark he was like they don't they can't live in this world i guess i'll take him out then we have we have Greg, who is going to be like, oh my God, Belinda called the police on me.

And I think mayhem is going to ensue.

And everyone's going to be just like going crazy, shooting.

Guns are everywhere.

Guns are flying.

And that.

Who do you least want to die?

Who do I least want to die?

Rick's girlfriend, Amy Lou Wood.

Yeah.

Oh, Amy Lou Wood. Yeah.
Rick and her. I love, I'm a rick stan i'm sorry i'm a huge rick guys walton goggins i i gotta watch righteous i'm glad it got closure you've never seen it no i watched the first season i know the song from it uh but yeah no i'm uh i'm team rick he's really he's been on a journey um i think he's turned a corner in his life.
To kill someone. He did get his friend to relapse.
That's not great. He didn't.
He didn't get his friend to relapse. His friend relapsed.
Yeah. Because he put him in a very stressful situation.
And he had zero information about what the job was. And she's like, oh, what movies have you seen? That was the biggest setup.
Yeah. He goes, I caught it.
I felt that in my bones. I was like, I too would be like, I be like I'll take a whiskey What? Also the only time Rick has ever felt joy Was watching all of this Just watching this Drugs and sex And rock and roll And you know what good for him Because he's not going to make it out I'll be really sad if Rick'll be really sad if Rick dies.
Also, the Ratliff younger siblings,

the daughter and the son,

we don't need them to die.

I don't want Belinda to die.

I don't want Belinda to die either.

Belinda Rat, the mom?

No, the masseuse.

That's like on to Gary or Greg

or whatever his name is this week.

Natasha Rothwell.

I don't think she will.

I don't want her to,

but her son's there.

Remember the whole first episode, the son's in the session with the therapist. And then...
I think it's time for Greg to die. He's been...
I'd be okay with that. Yeah, it's been too much.
If we were going to keep anyone, we could have kept Jennifer Coolidge. Well, the only thing that was really triggering for me, and I hope that our kids aren't like...
You know, like Patrick Schwarzenegger's character. God, I hope so.
When he was like, my whole life is wrapped up in this. I don't know what is in our kids' futures.
I just hope they're resilient. And I hope that if their world crumbles around them, they get the fuck back up, they dust themselves up and they just move the fuck on and figure out the fuck out.
And if that means they have to start over because mom and dad lost everything, so fucking be it. Oh my God, a lot of F-bombs.
I'm just'm just saying i don't know like we're not gonna raise weak people who are just obsessed with our success it is kind of interesting like look into nepotism in a different form like because you usually think about it in the entertainment industry but i'm like seeing it as like a corporate like of my dad has to be successful because i'm successful if my dad's successful my dad's not successful then i'm not or like i don't know what i'm gonna do with my life and it's just like wow yeah yeah glad i'm Not in that situation. I'm successful.
If my dad's successful, my dad's not successful, then I'm not. Or like, I don't know what I'm going to do with my life.
And it's just like, wow. Yeah.
Glad I'm not in that situation. I'm a succession.
Yeah. Well, Beverly Hills Housewives reunion part one is out.
What do we think? What do we think? Justice for Sutton and Garcelle. Intimate.
Really? Why? I mean, the one thing that I'm like, I'll back off on is I've said it before. I wish Garcelle didn't bring up the robbery again.
That being said, everything else, justice for them. I'm glad that Garcelle stood by her opinion.
I mean, like... Unlike you with Joel Kambuster.
She's so fired. As Garcelle said, don't put words in my mouth.
I didn't stand... I always said some really hard shit about him.
I just felt like it was a little much. You were just like really quick to apologize and be like, I'm so sorry.
We're best friends. I was quick to apologize by saying what I said.
I was like, to be fair, didn't Joel come for you at the beginning of being like, hey, like you said some mean things about me. I don't know if I want to come.
You had to finesse that too. Oh, yeah.
I mean, listen, he did his homework and he went. He's like know we had an opportunity to get him on and then he went back and listened and i was like yeah sorry you know it's i got a little spicy it's okay we don't have to go back i was just making a joke it really wasn't that deep but it is hard to watch garcelle really like hold strong on that when it clearly was very traumatic for Dorit and her family.
And then to still just like question the like, well, he left your phone and like the alarm system being off. It's like.
All I'm saying is Garcelle is not the only person in that group who thinks and says that. And she's just the only one who has the guts to say it out loud.
And, you know. It's giving a lot of context as to why she left, though.
Even just seeing this episode of the reunion, I'm like, oh, okay. You really didn't think people were coming for you.
When the episode started and she's like, hopefully we can take a cast photo. She's going to be the one.
She's the one who won't take the cast photo. Kyle won't even look at her.
She's too focused on her crystals. Dorit being able to say

leaving Kyle speechless

in the like, you thinking

that I was acting

this way to keep my job when you are

close enough with executive producers to

know that I was asked back and you still

chose to

have that view and Kyle was like, well no,

Kyle said I said what I said.

She was like, I said what I said. But she was kind of left

a little speechless of like. You took it that way?

She was like this.

Thank you. have that view and kyle was like well no kyle said i said what i said she was like i said what i said but she was kind of left a little speechless of like you took it that way she was like this i took it literally left speechless like literally did not say anything until well i think when when producers and executives of brawl get brought up i think they have to tread carefully or it's like it becomes a kind of a convoluted, complicated issue of like, what can I say and not say?

Dorit obviously brought it up. I took her like quietness or, you know, not saying anything back more like, I don't know.
I don't know how to address this. I'm just going to stand by what I said, because it's definitely possible that like, well, Dorit made a very good point.
Like that was a great argument for Dorit to make but maybe she got asked back after producers were had a conversation with Dorit and said we need more from you we need more honesty yada yada then Dorit does what she does and you know what I'm saying so like maybe Dorit's giving us half of that version and Kyle's just like you know what I said what I said and I'm just gonna leave it at that I don't know even the whole like PK statement and how she doesn't really like she like Loki like defended PK or like her relationship with PK but she didn't also like she knows what she's doing when she's like I don't know so are you implying that he relapsed I'm not gonna say I don't know but the way she says it's like so you're implying that he relapsed it is tough it is tough to to i mean listen like she intimated they're going through a divorce but the way that statement from pk dirty as well yeah i know i don't know it was i kind of like i agreed with his statement yeah well him being like i hope this is not the person i married i she returns back to me. Like I was giving the question I asked the other day where it was like husbands that blame their marriages, like failing with housewives on the show.
Like he was kind of implying that, but she turned into his character. I do think that's a real issue.
Yeah. When you go on a TV show, it can change people.
When you go on a TV show, it's all about exposing the intimate details of your life and family and marriage. It often causes problems.
I mean, her saying that he is not a good father, knowing her children will see that is a choice. It is a choice.
And that is a line. I'm sorry that like, once you cross it, it's can't go back.
You can't go back't go back and it's just you know the way people talk about like their spouses i think matters i mean like there's one thing to give each other shit and being on the joke whatever but to like behind their back like question their character how they are as parents is i don't know that was tough it's dirty it's like it's hard for me to hear her say that and then say things like well he's my soul he's my heart you know it's like huh like i don't yeah like how can you say that and like still hope to to reconcile you know it's i don't think she hopes to reconcile she makes it sound like she does though yeah she goes back it's really confusing i said she knows what she, where she's like being kind of vague, but also saying the obvious. And then Andy brought up, obviously, like, is it the glam? Is it this? And she even acknowledged that.
And I don't know what she's spending, but like these glam teams are not cheap. And if, if, if every time like Dorit's doing an interview or an appearance and she's getting full glam.
That's thousands of dollars. And like,

if she's doing that on the regular,

she could be spending 10,

15,

20 grand a month on clothes and makeup.

Well,

that statement to the end of PK statement about wanting her to go back to the

person that she was.

It reminds me of the,

I think it was her birthday or their anniversary.

He posted a reel and it was right before they announced their divorce the year

before.

And he very much used all these old photos of Dorit,

Like,

Thank you. I think it was her birthday or their anniversary, he posted a reel and it was right before they announced their divorce the year before.
And he very much used all these old photos of Dorit like before work done and like in their like happier stages. And it made a lot of people speculate that there was like trouble in paradise because it's like it looked like he was romanticizing the past of their relationship versus like celebrating who she is today.
I mean, it's I mean, you know, this is her job, right? So on one regard, I get like, she's like, hey, I have a career. This is my job.
I'm finally doing something. I'm providing for our family.
She's probably making more than him at this point. Do you think that was touchy for him, though? And when they were asking about if their relationship changed based off of her fame, do you think that that might have had an element of it that he was always a successful businessman in the entertainment industry?

Maybe. I mean, there could be some ego involved, for sure.
It's just very complicated when your job is what this is and to do what she does. And yeah, it's a tough beat with all of a sudden, one day, your spouse is prioritizing their TV personality job over you and their family.
And it's like, yeah, it would feel like that person changed. Yeah.
Like I can see his side, even though he wears a tracksuit. I do applaud her for being open about like she even addressed the pre foreclosure reports that everybody was seeing this whole like past couple of months.
And it's like, I don't pay him if they don't call me back. Well, that's a choice.
I wonder where his credit is. I was being like, well, that's how you lose your house.
Gotta pay your bills. They didn't call me back.
Nope. But don't worry, he got it handled.
They did call. Yeah.
I was like, okay. I think we're going to see a resurgence of the Fox Force next season.
And that's like the group of like Dari and whoever she associates with herself. Erica usually is a part of it being like the popular girls because for them to throw mean girls as a label to Garcelle and Sutton, when they got mad about it season 10 when Denise did it to them, I'm like.
It'll be interesting. Right now, Bose is like team Dari.
But like I have a ton of respect for Bose. As far as by my count, she has not been wrong yet.
I yet. I agree.
She's batting a thousand. And I think she just calls it straight up.
Every time someone comes at her, she's like, but this, this, and this. And they're like, damn.
Because she always makes sense. But Bose is not a mean girl.
And I just don't think Bose is going to stand. If Dorit gets a little cocky and, I don't know, aligns with some of these other women, I don't think Bo's is not a follower.
And I don't think she's so... If that's the case, I predict a fallout with Bo's and Dorit.
I loved when Bo's was saying to Garcelle or whomever, maybe the whole group, when she was like, if you think that I can be manipulated in my opinion of you, then that shows me that you have a very low opinion of yourself. That was hardcore.
I was like, okay. And the way she says it it's like, she doesn't even say it with hate in her heart.
Yeah. She's not saying it to me.
She's like, well I can't be manipulated. And if you feel that way, you feel that way.
It's like very, I'm like, she's incredible. Yeah, because she's like, when people say stuff about me it doesn't impact me.
It doesn affect me i know who i am why don't you know who you are and then i did see an interview where rena and she did do watch what happens live a couple months ago but i saw an interview with her where they asked her about housewives and she was like i would love to film with that bows i would love to and like obviously erica and kyle but like all the other women i don't care about or something but the way that she said it kind of like gave a little hint that I was like, maybe she might be asked back to your Fox 4. Fox 4 is coming back regardless.
What did you think? What did you guys think of Erica opting out of giving whatever designer any credit when she was like, oh, some designer. I can see both sides.
I think she asked for it for free and was like, hey, I'd love to wear this to the reunion if you'd like to gift it to me. And they were like, sorry, no, like not possible.
And then she paid full price for it. And she was like, well, then I'm not going to like shout you out because that's worth a lot of money.
And I'm not doing that. I kind of get it.
It's like, yeah, when it comes to that type of marketing or branding or branding in our experience a lot of people have no problem asking for free marketing without and it's like they both want it because they think it'll add value to their business but they don't they don't like to acknowledge how much value that might be and they like they still want to get paid and like it's if if that if nanny's right i see her side it's just but because it's like they weren't sitting down like obviously they were recording but it didn't it wasn't like a interview question for erica it was just andy being like oh my god love her who is that love what you're wearing and she was like yeah some designer i mean i also see like online this is just chatter people being like well maybe it's just a good look not to mention designers given like lawsuits coming out but she was just like let's not throw a name out there oh that could be out of just respect of image so i think like it could be as simple as that you think erica was looking out for her designer's behalf because she didn't want to attach her name to that no i'm saying no i'm saying her behalf in the sense of how much did that dress cost like because the show is cited in the lawsuit so it's more just like just for protection of everybody and respect of herself just not to yeah makes sense Erica telling Garcelle that she wished she was more interesting justice for Garcelle like I said that was wrong that's wild I guess I don't know how I would react if somebody looked me in the eye and said I just wish you were more interesting I saw a list of someone like writing out everything that Garcelle has shared about her life this season and like nobody gives her credit like it's just the fact that she doesn't share it in a toxic drama way because she talked about her son's like sobriety she talked about her son being bullied and not wanting to be on the show i'm sorry i'm not i wasn't married to a criminal and then accused of being you know maybe a co-op corroborating with said i don't know an accomplice an accomplice yeah sorry um sorry i won't be will be named in the Erin Brockovich sequel. Yeah, I mean, that was a dirty thing for Erica to say.
But it was iconic. I did.
And I thought they were fine. I was like, we did something happen? That seems like one of Erica's just like little things that she throws out.
And then it's like the other person's like, oh, my God. It's like, Jesus.
She's like, what? I just said I wish you were more interesting. Yeah.
to that point Erica like I give her respect because person's like oh my god it's like jesus she's like what i just said i wish you were more interesting yeah to that point erica like i give her respect because she's fast with responses and if you don't receive she's like oh okay yeah yeah so we are just like decide who hasn't been picked on enough and then just focus their energy on that person that's why it's i think it's good garcelle is leaving because she's kind of leaving at the height of like people enjoying her and people liking her and before these women tear her to shreds next season. Like they're going to be ruthless.
Kyle did have a gotcha when she was like, well like your son didn't want to be on the show. Why should Morgan be on the show? And I was like, I'm team Garcelle but I was like, you got a point.
Yeah, I'm with Kyle there. It's just like, it's not, if she wants to respect her friend, like if a friend comes on as a favor or for whatever reason and- Doesn't like the response.
And asks to not be a part of it, like for the rest of the women to just demand. Especially someone who like has her own career and is like doing things for herself to be like- And it could affect her.
Yeah. It's like, yeah, I was definitely team Kyle there.
And then also, Garcelle bringing up stuff Kyle said to her and Sutton off camera. Well, I think that's valid.
I think it's valid. I think all of them are using Garcelle as like a pawn off camera and then throwing her under the bus when she says something that we all talked about.
Because even Bo's being like, yeah, I talked to before we filmed like it's like she's the person everybody's talking to but it's also just like not the gotcha moment that you think it is where it's like when people are like oh we had this conversation off camera and it's like cool we didn't see it so it's just like i would have to take your word for it but that didn't add anything to your argument but then to nick's point it's like we watch the show and we want to act like there isn't like this isn't a job or that we're having stuff outside the show happen you know like garcelle's saying stuff that everybody's talking about and then they're acting like i never said that even signed like well all i said was this and she's like no you didn't no that that was wild it's like when andy in the beginning of the show like asked kyle before the reunion actually started about like the double standard did any of you understand kyle's response no i was like huh what did she i didn't make it i don't even know what she said but i was like did you was that a did you hear his question sounded like a quote i was like i'm not really sure yeah it did sound like a quote yeah i'll think like something you saw at bed bath and beyond and i was like okay whatever you say kyle i'll see you in your crystals there's something about i do i i kind of have a soft spot for kyle i do not agree with like the way she has handled specifically the dorit situation but i think like she's obviously like going through a lot in her life right now and i think some of them are like really intentional about the way they're trying to like get her to break yeah and i don't know and i and i'll obviously have not seen every single season of beverly hills i'm starting from the beginning but like i don't know it's just i don't know i kind of feel bad for her she's obviously going through it who do you think is trying to make kyle berg the most garcelle really i think she's she's the one that keeps bringing up she's the only one who's decided she's the one who's like really really bringing up morgan and And Kyle obviously does not want to talk about it on camera right now,

which I think she's allowed to not want to talk about that. She's not ready.

Kyle did call her out too.

And she was like, you were trying to get Sutton to get to come for me.

And she's like, no, I wasn't.

I was trying to have her defend me.

And she's like, defend you in coming for me.

If you're going to go after Kyle,

just go after her for just like clearing up.

Are you her and Mo? Cause I'm just tired of that scene over and over. It's just whatever.
Next week, our guest is acting with Kyle on the hit show Wild Cards. Giacomo is up next.
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Thank you so much for having me. And now I'm saying it right.
It's Giacomo, not Giacomo. Yes.
Okay, great. It's a great name.
Thank you. It's the only one I have.
Did your parents know you were going to be hot when you... When they gave you that Italian alliteration of a name? It's like he's going to have to be.
He has no choice. We're going to give him this name.
He's going to have to grow into it. Yeah.
Yeah. It's like, he's just going to have to rise to the level.
It really worked out for you. You kind of had like an awkward stage with that name.
Well, look, I was raised in Canada and there was a lot of like Doug's and Nathan and Justin's and I was Giacomo. So it was very weird.
Okay north of Ontario and Canada so did you did you ever give yourself a nickname Jack oh yeah absolutely my whole goal was to assimilate I'm not Italian I'm like you guys you know what I mean I'm not different my best friend his name is Marcos and he'd be like my name is Marcos Marcus? yeah'd be like, yeah, my name is Marcos. Marcus?

Mark?

Yeah, Mark.

Fuck it.

I don't care.

Yeah, exactly.

Especially in college, you know, based on parties, everyone's drinking.

It's really loud.

Yeah.

He was like, I'm not going to yell it three more times.

Why is everyone calling you Mark?

It's a long story.

So you are performing with Kyle Richards next week, our acting.

Yes.

Yes. We have a very exciting episode on wild cards that's all very sort of uh um housewives themed now did you do any like watching of the housewives the prep i i didn't okay i didn't and i i think it was it was the most fun was watching everyone at work freak out that she was coming to work and me not really understanding and and being like oh yeah like they just told me like we have this like really great talent from the housewives and like she's gonna come here and she's gonna add like such value to our episode because she's like in that world she's so iconic and recognizable and everything and i was just like happy i was like thrilled i was like great but i didn't watch the show i didn't know you know who she was and then when she came on set everyone was just especially the women were freaking out

she's she's iconic i mean it's a great idea for a scene because these like dinner party scenes are

iconic in this universe and to think like you would think a crime would eventually happen with

all the arguing in the fights you know i have to give it to kyle because like i don't think everyone

in that position can have the sense of humor that she does to be able to kind of like poke

I'll see you next time. the arguing in the fights you know i have to give it to kyle because like i don't think everyone in that position can have the sense of humor that she does to be able to kind of like poke fun at yourself your own industry your own show reality like she really had such a great sense of humor about going all in and being like yeah like let's make fun of this like let's you know like let's make people laugh let's entertain people with like how ridiculous some of these things can be right yeah she was such a good sport to just go along for the ride and our writers wrote all these like most ridiculous hilarious things you know making fun of sort of like reality parts of television that are that are very comical and stuff and she just went for it and was so terrific have you done a lot of acting with more traditional like non-actors like kyle who come in and do a scene are some easier to work with Well, what I learned about Kyle is she's actually been acting for a very long time and she's really, really talented.
So I was so pleasantly surprised. I got to do some really nice scenes with her.
So I was just like, wow, she's terrific. She's like a child actress.
She was the little girl in Halloween. She was a child actress? Yeah.
And then she did the last Halloween with Jamie Lee Curtis. Well, we have a clip for a season two trailer of Wild Cards.
Let's play the clip for our audience, because if they haven't seen it, it's a real fun show. You lied to me, Max.
You played me like I was one of your marks. You didn't catch me.
Give me one reason why I should believe a single word out of your mouth. Because I know who killed your brother.
Oh, no. I need my best people on this.
That means you. Her too.
Grab your fuzzy balls and come with me. Who has more fun than us? Everybody.
Slow down, slow down! So now, do I get a badge? What happened to our egg? Maybe don't smash that one, Bam Bam. Can you go five minutes without committing a felony? I didn't commit crimes.
I helped rich people part ways with their money. What's the difference? Possess.
Whatever happened to trusting your partner? The only person you can count on is you. Trusting you is the biggest mistake I ever made.
You guys going on a date? Good for nothing, dick. We just solved a murder before it even happened.
Now we can arrest man and hottie oh yeah i'll get right on that wild cards season premiere wednesday february 5th on the cw there we go is it weird watching yourself do you watch a little bit i mean i'm very involved with like the producers and everything and how the show is shaped and stuff like that i care about that stuff so i've seen these trailers and my you you know was that martin sheen that i saw yeah that's gotta be pretty cool it was i didn't believe my producer when i when they said we got him i was like we didn't get him like you're lying or whatever i literally until he showed up i didn't believe it what was that like it was incredible he came in for a day and uh we did a ton of work with him we like a very full shooting day we wanted to sort of like maximize his time with us And he's of a certain age, so you want to also be like, okay, let's not kill the guy here. Let's get a respectable work day and then let him go home.
But because we captured so much in one day, we were able to get enough content that we could kind of sprinkle it throughout the season. So he's got a pretty big presence in our season, which is really nice.
How different was playing a cop versus playing a doctor um i i think uh less medical jargon which makes my brain bleed um and uh i think it's just a little bit more fun because like the cop is like out on the streets he's like chasing down the bad guys he's solving crimes he's going from place to place where it's like the doctor just like in real life you're stuck at the hospital like that's it you're there yeah it must have been brutal learning so so many medical terminology i bet is just like wrapped arguably just as exciting and thrilling because you know what these surgeons are doing is literally like playing god like holding people's lives in their hands but yeah are you good at fake punching people yeah i've been doing it a long time so what's the trick it's basically just like you being like it's like the little 10 year old boy jackamo like having a blast and being like i'm still playing pretend i'm still doing this like yes have you ever been in a real fight i have yeah i was bullied a lot when i was younger because i was just really short and my name of course talked about my name okay yeah uh very different and so uh yeah i was like so short until like my last year of high school like all those like really embarrassing like uh childhood photos where they put you all on the on the benches and then like give you the different levels and of course like the shortest ones like you're the front row i have all front rows yes but then when you became a man an adult did you have a lot of people from the past reach out and just be like, hey, sorry. Like, you want to go on a date? Not too much.
I kind of like left my I mean, it's even hard for me to go home, honestly, like this little town where I'm from, Parry Sound, Ontario, because it's just like every year that I spent away from it. I just like grew further and further and further from that place to get to a point where it's like's like you don't really have anything to connect anymore with certain people that you grew up with.
You're just on a different trajectory. How did you meet your wife? She is a makeup and hair artist, had been.
And I was doing a photo shoot for a magazine. And she was doing my makeup and hair.
Who asked who out? I did. Yeah.
I asked everybody in the crew for their number. And I couldn't care less about anyone from the crew's number.
I just wanted her number. I just need everyone here.
But I didn't want to be like, give me your number. I was like, hey, everyone.
Like you guys, right? I was like, oh, we had such a blast today. We should all exchange information so we can future work together.
Like all of us together. And then I was like, delete, delete, delete.
Great. This is the one I wanted.
That's very, that's very smooth. Cause you never really know, like, you know, you're at work.
It's a work setting. It's like, you know, that was good.
So when you, when you reached out, were you like, hey, this was my plan all along.

I had some weird advice from my other actor friend, Matt Murray. I was like, I really like this girl.
I can't mess this up. And I'm sure she has tons of attractive guys sitting in her chair every day and hit on her and ask her for her number.
I'm like, how do I like stand out from like these crowds?

She probably has this whole, and like actors are known for being very like, you know, vain and into themselves and stuff.

I'm like how do i like stand out from like these crowds she probably has this whole and like actors are known for being very like you know vain and into themselves and stuff i'm like great like how do i like combat this this sort of like stereotype and stick out and he's like he was like it's like it's like end of november it's like wait like a month it's gonna be christmas she's gonna be home with her family she's gonna be in her feelings she's gonna be emotional and that's when you strike and i I was like, I was like, interesting. I was like, very,

very like,

okay.

And I did it.

I did just that.

I waited like a month,

which now she was like,

she was like,

why did you wait a month to text me?

You idiot.

But it worked.

It worked.

So yeah,

I just sent her a text message over the Christmas break,

just being like,

Hey,

I'm just thinking about you.

And I'd love to see you when you,

when you get back. She was in Northern California and I was, I was in Canada And I just said, hey, why don't we get back from break? Like, why don't we get together? Like, I'd love to see you.
So that was sort of the beginning. Is she your like any time you book a new job? Are you like, I actually have my own hair and makeup person I would like to bring? Not on like film and television jobs, but like if we do like a magazine or like a promotional thing then yeah we work together that's like that's fun that is nice because you know just every time you send a new chair for sure you never know it's like oh my god what are you what are you doing to me it's like you really made my eyebrows thick like whoa sure how is it coming Uh-oh.
That's true. How was it coming off?

Obviously, Grey's Anatomy, just an iconic show.

It's been on for a long time.

What was it like coming off that show?

Your character dying?

As an actor, I feel like there's a rite of passage to die in a scene, but at the same

time, then you're kind of done.

Yeah.

Is that a weird kind of transition?

Honestly, I kind of like that, though. Because it's like, I like that though because it's like i mean it's more dramatic there's nothing more

dramatic than death and it is a drama so it's like great we like nailed that but uh but yeah

i don't know i think the the leaving the door open is certain nice for certain characters and i think a lot of fans were really upset and still are upset that that i was that i was I was killed off, but it made great television. And like, that's the, if you don't understand, like that's what the writers are trying to do.
They're trying to make great gripping television. And it's like, there are safer choices, but they're not as entertaining.
And it's like, if you're heartbroken that moment, then they're like, yeah, that's what we were trying to do. Is there like a meta moment? Like, you know, you watch a good show and your favorite character dies like there's still movies or tv shows i watch and i know what death scene's coming and i sometimes just kind of fast forward through it because it just like gets me when you're dying and you watch it back is there like a weird like i know you played the role but like is it ever in a weird like way it's just like, wow, I died there in a weird kind of way.

I think it's more metaphorical for me.

I'm less reacting to my character dying,

and I'm more as a human reacting to the fact

that that chapter in my life is finished,

that I'm going to be now going to a new chapter

and doing other things.

Did you always know that your character would be bipolar?

No.

No, and often big storylines for for care on on any show really the writers from the moment you're hired they become detectives right they're trying to figure out who you are what you can do your strengths your weaknesses and start writing and so when an actor has been on a show for a long time they usually get really good because the writers start to write towards that actor and that character. And when those two things start to mend, you have like a really great character on television.
I mean, the range obviously of a bipolar character, a lot of challenges with that. Like how did you prep for that? Was that even also kind of fun to challenge yourself, you know, having such emotional ranges? I have bipolar and other mental illnesses in my family.
So it was something that was like very close to me. I have a very close and personal reference to that.
And, um, so, so that was sort of like where I started. And then I just like, you know, read some, some books that were more like just fact-based, like studying like different, you know, it's also a spectrum kind of like autism.
Like I could put 10 people a room all line them up that have bipolar they all have completely different stories and ways and when they switch from manic to depressive and like this is a completely different thing there's not like one cookie cutter thing and that's why we had a lot of talks about like okay like what is he like what does he specifically suffer from how does he suffer so that we could tell a story that was just sort of um kind of original to to him so you like cruising on your bike yeah yeah i'm a cyclist i guess that's like a nice hobby that i have how long you've been into that for i started just before the pandemic it was a really funny thing because i was just looking for something to get me outside i try to make exercise more fun that it wasn't so like i'm working out i was like just do something that's fun so i always kind of liked being on a bicycle, but I'd never like taken it seriously, like from a perspective of like doing it for hours and training up to that level and climbing hills and stuff like that. So I bought a bike, I started riding and then the whole world shut down and we had the pandemic.
And then I had other friends and people who were like, oh God, like we're locked down. We can't do anything.
Like I'm going to get a bicycle and you couldn't get a bicycle they were completely sold out like worldwide like everyone decided came up with the idea of like oh i'll have a bike like that'll be like my mental health thing that i do to like get out of my house yeah yeah but you couldn't get them it was like literally like they just flew off the shelves and anybody who was in a bike selling business made ton of money because they could just sell them for like i don't know like twenty thousand dollars great people like great like yes give me a bicycle i'm going crazy i'm stuck in my house did you start like a like a bike club with your friends for those i didn't it's always been a very solo kind of thing for me which i like like it's meditative like i i feel like i solve a lot of problems when i'm out there i'm just thinking i don't know it's like even the shower like sometimes you ever just be in the shower and you're just alone with your thoughts there's no no technology, there's no nothing. And you're like, Oh, there's that problem that I'm trying to solve.
Like, there we go. I mowed a lawn for the first time.
Yeah. There you go.
In like 20 some years. I did it as a kid over and over and over and like living in the city for the past 20 years.
You just stuck with your thoughts. Yeah.
And so like usually in LA, you know, I have someone mowed along to give a patch of grass. It's like, I don't know.
Whatever. Here, here's 25 bucks.
You know where to store a mower. Yeah.
But then I mowed a lawn so you have a patch of grass it's like whatever here's 25 bucks you know where to store a mower yeah but then I mowed a lawn it was like really it was like I'm gonna keep doing this cause you put the airpods on you listen to you know some music or a podcast or something and you just kind of zone out you zone out yeah it's great what do you and your wife like to do for fun we aren't very very materialistic people. We don't like buying items.
We like doing trips and experiences. So that's where we decide to invest our money.
So it's like instead of buying a handbag or a cool car or a Rolex, it's like I have an Apple watch. It's like the most expensive watch I own.
And we like being like, oh, let's go to this's go to this cabin for the weekend oh there's this like cool like a tiki thing on the beach we found in this like place like let's fly there or like have you found a favorite kind of hole in the wall place or place that you and your wife have been like we have to go back like this is a gem you don't have to say the name if you don't want to there was away. There was this place, because then it'll be ruined and everyone will be there.

No, it's funny.

I've been shooting wildcards in Vancouver and there's

this place on the way up to Whistler

between Vancouver and Whistler

called Nita Lake.

They have this place called the Nita Lake Lodge

and it's like what you would imagine of a

lodge, you know, a big wood cabin

lodge. Very simple, like not fancy, but like all the details done very well.
They got a nice spa. It's on a lake.
You can like kayak and canoe. There's walking trails.
It's just very about kind of like unplugging and just being connected with nature. And so I've had a couple of breaks while I've been there shooting.
I think it was like the Thanksgiving weekend and some other weekend. We shoot up there and we go there for like three days.
Also, we have a dog. So it's like dog friendly.
That's like huge. That's like the place has to have like be dog friendly.
Yeah. So we have a great time there.
Just like unplugging and just like going for a kayak in the morning with a cup of coffee and going for a walk. Do you like shooting in Vancouver? Yeah, it's beautiful.
Yeah. Especially in the summer when it's not raining so much.
It's gorgeous. What is like considered, like when do we start summer in Vancouver? Do we know? Yeah.
I mean like June. Is it? Yeah.
June, July. The island is also really beautiful.
Vancouver Island. Okay.
I've never been to Vancouver. It's a place called Tofino.
So you're on the ocean and like surfers come there from all over the world to surf as well. Another really just beautiful, like you want to just kind of unplug a lot of like cabin and nature and

beaches.

And it's really pretty.

Do you have a type of character or a project that's always been kind of a

dream of yours to try to play next?

I guess like I've been always riding the line of kind of leading man.

And I think I just have way much much more fun

playing against that like i like playing people who are like complicated and disturbed or evil or you know what i mean and i have a lot i just got back from shooting this little indian in calgary where i was a cult leader and uh i i don't think i've had that much fun in a long time just being like like, how far can I take this? I'm going to go all the way. Like, this guy is absolutely.
And y'all tell me to reel it in. Yeah.
It's just so fun to just, like, slip that on. You know what I mean? And then, yeah, be finished your day.
All cult leaders have to have some pretty good, nice eyes. Well, if you see, like, you know, there's all these documentaries on Netflix and stuff about like cults and cult leaders and things and like how they came to be.
And you're like, how did all these people fall for this thing? And it's usually like a handsome guy who like knows how to talk. Yeah.
Right. And it always starts.
Hey, come in. Like, sit down.
Like, we have a lot of cool things here. And like a good message.
And then all of a sudden you have like 17 wives and they're all getting branded there's like a hand on your thigh and like a like whoa what is this guy whoa okay i'm in yeah it's like there's always like yeah yeah yeah i'm in see that's how they happen so easy god you're so good at your job is there anyone from like history that you would be interested in doing like a biopic on or someone that like you feel like you could channel really well being a roman born in rome i love the ancient civilization of rome and like you know when i've seen films like the original gladiator when i was growing up like those films just like have my whole heart like if i could just teleport and like live in that time like had a lot of problems that time it was very problematic but you know there's something kind of like i romanticize about it yeah not all like the hunger and war and famine and strife i like romanticize all the like fighting as a gladiator and stuff it's like yeah i'm like i'm a guy the swords and the the armor and stuff. Have you seen the second gladiator? I have seen it, yeah.
Do you think it holds up? I'm a big Ridley Scott fan, so I just like the spectacle of it all, how large and grandiose it is, is beautiful to me. And Denzel was great.
And Denzel was terrific, yeah. I think there's certain moments of the historical inaccuracies that give me a little, like there's sharks in the Colosseum swimming around.
Did it yeah at that point just put laser beams on their head to like go full like yeah that was probably maybe the big only gripe i had because you're like it was never gonna live up to the first one fine yeah that was no no and it shouldn't have been and i think that was good but no i thought the cast did great it was a beautiful film i was engaged the whole time i was never bored and the I thought it was a great film. That is so true.
I remember being like, how did they get that water in there? And how was it staying? And then the sharks, how are they? Did they lead them with treats? How did they transport them from whatever ocean they got them? Because yesterday there were no sharks. And there is records of ships being brought in, but they weren't that big.
And there wasn that much water. It was like small little boats.
It was like Yeah, that was crazy. I forgot about that scene.
Do you have any fun summer plans coming up? Fun summer plans? Every year I try to go to Italy because my grandmother's there, my family's there. So I definitely have plans in May to go to Italy.
Is Rome your favorite city in Italy? If you, like, if we were to go back to Italy,

I've,

I've been to Venice.

There's a lot of really beautiful ones.

I think Bologna is one of my favorite cities.

I shot an Italian film there years ago and I got to live there for like almost six months.

And it is terrific.

Apart from it being probably one of the best food in all of Italy,

just the North is just terrific.

But,

uh,

it was just like this small little city. It's not a town.
It's a proper city. It has like all the things you could possibly want.
But you can walk from one side to the other in like half an hour. It's got one of the biggest universities there.
So you have like this injection of like youth and culture and life. And you hear like Spanish and German and French at restaurants because all the young students from all over are studying there.
So it's just very cool melting pot. Very artistic.
There's a music school there too. So you have young musician students that are playing on the streets and art.
It's a very inspiring place. So you're fluent in Italian.
Is your wife also? She's not. She's working on it and she's been working on it for nine years now.
Yes, of course. It's we're getting there are you teaching her or is she like don't go back and forth it's like sometimes i'll try teaching and sometimes she'll use the apps and stuff so yeah it's always better when we're there and spending time there she gets back into the groove but then when we leave it's like it's hard to kind of like maintain it before she started learning italian would you ever like say things behind her back in in Italian if you're really mad? No.
She's like, I'm going to remember that. What did you just say? Nothing.
Never mind. That's funny.
Do you like games? Of course. Yeah, sure.
I'm waiting for the guest who says no. Let me rephrase.
No. Depends.
Yeah, it depends on if you have to explain the rules to me. I don't want to play the game.
You know, there's nothing worse than being like, sure, let's play Monopoly. How do you play? And then someone's like, alright.
So if you have... It's like, yeah, I can't do it.
But then, if you land here, you have to go back three spaces, roll around. Are there a lot of rules to this game, Mary? It's actually three pages of just rules.

Terrific.

We can scrap. No, I'm just kidding.

So this game is, it's just a very silly game. It's called, is this a reality

TV scandal or like a crime

show scandal? And we're gonna

list off some like scandals

from TV. But these are like real things that

happened? Real things that happened in reality TV.

They either really happened on a reality TV

show or they were

an actual scene. Like a written plot.

Or someone wrote it. Oh, in like a fictional TV.

And you're going to have to guess. Okay.

Did the writers write this or

is this real life for some people?

Okay. Alright, so up first

we have becoming so addicted

to tanning that your skin turns

into leather and you have to go to the hospital. I mean, I guess like a reality TV show.
Yeah, that feels reality. Feels reality.
It's from CSI Miami. What? I used to be a host.
Miami would. Yeah.
Okay. Helping your husband fake cancer.
Helping your husband fake cancer?

Mm-hmm.

I'm going to go real on that one.

Dr. DeLuca, what are we thinking?

Yeah.

It is Vicki Gumbelson from the Real Housewives channel.

Vicki did that.

Allegedly.

Allegedly.

We have to say that, allegedly.

Allegedly.

Vicki, we love you.

There's no reunion.

Faking a pregnancy to keep your husband from leaving. I would probably go up it was written Written? It is from Glee Glee Faking a law degree to everyone you know That's pretty close God yeah I don't know I feel like this is reality Is this Craig Conover? It's a trick question it is both Craig Conover from Southern Charm and it also happened in Suits.

There we go.

Getting arrested by the FBI

for a long con committing

elder fraud. Television?

Nope. Reality?

Jen Shaw from the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City.

She's currently in jail. All Real Housewives?

Doing all these crimes?

She's currently in jail with Elizabeth Holmes.

You got

Kyle who, to our knowledge,

has not had any. Crime free.
Yeah. Crime free.
Crime free. My wife, Nicole, would know all of this because she's like in a true crime like every other woman is.
Yes, of course. She'd be like, oh, yes.
That happened in 1991. I know.
The joke that's like women fall asleep by hearing like, and her head was cut off. Her legs were cut off.
It's actually true. And next up, we have leaving your wife to go back to your ex who you secretly had kids with.
True? No, it's from Grey's Anatomy. Oh, no.
I mean, got that. Getting banned from Carvel ice cream for life after scamming the company.
That seems too specific to be television. Yeah, Carvel Ice Cream.
That feels real. Reality.
No, it's from 30 Rock, but it was a 30 Rock episode that Kelsey Grammer was in, and Kelsey Grammer did have his wife, previous wife, Camille Grammer, on the Railhouse Boys in Beverly Hills. Did she get banned from an ice cream shop? No, he just divorced her after putting her on the show.
While having an affair. What do you mean he put her on the show? Kelsey Grammer put his wife Camille on the show to give her something to do so he could go to New York and have an affair and then he left her in the first season.
Is this an alleged? No, this literally is the plot of the first season of Beverly Hills. And he had another family that he had kids with? No, no, no.
No, he just was also in 30 Rock. Did he ever watch Housewives? He was in it.
People talk about rumors a lot. If you're- Yeah, this was early days.
It's gonna get brought up. It's Orange County.
It's not a way to fly under the radar. Yeah.
Anyway, next up we have returning a puppy you got from a friend to a kill shelter. Oh my God.
That is horrible. That is horrible.
Why am I afraid it's reality TV? It's reality TV. And it didn't technically happen.
So Dorit got a dog from Lisa Vanderpump's Vanderpump Dogs. The dog didn't work for her family.
She gave it to a friend.

And then the friend sent the dog to a kill shelter.

But then Lisa basically brought all of this to the show to make it seem like Dorit dropped it off at a kill shelter.

And that's why Lisa Vanderpump ended up leaving the show.

Well, I mean, Dorit should have made sure

whoever she gave this dog to.

I mean, who would ever be like, yeah yeah let me take this dog to like a kill you know like who would ever think that your friend would do that yeah it's probably one of the worst seasons of beverly hall's housewives too because that was the entire storyline for the entire season apple juicy juicy apple goose does this make you want to watch reality TV? No, it sounds terrifying.

It's good character study.

It sounds vile.

They do some pretty awful things to each other.

Cheating on your husband with a man that looks identical to him.

So it's like husband 2.0.

Slightly improved, maybe.

It's like when you still liked him. Oh, you're like him when I still liked him.
I remember you. I remember you.
Real? It's from Severance. Severance.
Oh, yeah. Okay.
Do you watch Severance? I do, yeah. I'm not all caught up.
I know the finale happened. I think I'm like two or three episodes behind.
Are you watching White Lotus? I've only watched the first episode of that. Okay.
I've been very busy lately. You are so busy.
Yes, I've been very busy lately. Ruining your vacation with friends by getting arrested for a felony.
I know. Written.
Nope. It's from the show Vanderpump Rules.
Jax Taylor got arrested for stealing sunglasses when he was on vacation. I started really strong and I just been struggling.
I got two right and then it's just been wrong. You have more faith in humanity.
That is what it is. You're just like this can't be real stories.
Someone had to have written these. And then last but not least we have a high profile lawyer embezzling client settlement funds and getting arrested for that.
I'm going to say written. Written? Tom Girardi.
Tom Girardi. It's reality television.
So you guys know too much about the reality. I don't know it.
I don't watch those shows. Tom Girardi is the lawyer they based the lawyer and Aaron Brockovich on.
And then he ended up in real life. Yeah.
So the scene. I didn't know that.
Have you seen Aaron Brockovich? Yes. You know the scene where the big shot lawyer comes in and helps the smaller one.
They team up. And then Aaron Brockford's character kind of goes through all the phone numbers yeah he's the the the male act the male lawyer who comes in who's the big shot is playing tom girardi erica jane's husband isn't that movie really old yeah so they knew like all along that tom girardi was a scumbag? No.
Tom Girardi before he was a scumbag was

a lawyer who successfully

went after corporations

and seemingly helped the small

person. He just ended up

stealing their money.

Yes, of course.

That's my game. That's our game.
I learned a lot.

Yes. Thank you.

Most importantly, you learned you will not

be tuning in to Real Housewives. Kyle never did any.
Or that you're just like, you're a pretty good person. Yeah, thank you.
I appreciate it. Yeah.
Jack and Moe, this has been a lot of fun. Thanks for coming and chatting with us.
Everyone, check out, if you haven't already, season two of Wild Cards, especially next week. If you are a big fan of Kyle and Housewives, tune in.
You seeiacomo and Kyle work together. It's a lot of fun, and we appreciate you coming on.
Thank you, guys. It was a lot of fun.
Yeah, thanks for coming. Well, that was fun, Giacomo.
What a sweet guy. Okay, you've been saying it with an accent all along, and now you're like, Giacomo.
Giacomo. Well, thank you for Giacomo for coming on the show.
Giacomo. It's a fun word to say.
His name, he's got a good name. He was like, it's the only one I have.
Good old Jack. His co-star, Vanessa Morgan, was also in Riverdale.
I auditioned for that show. You auditioned for Riverdale? For Veronica, yeah.
Oh, my God. Oh, really? Yeah.
Didn't get it. Short subject.

Short story.

Short story.

Not much to say.

I want to ask.

We're going to talk about this.

There's nothing else to say.

I'm here.

You do look like a Veronica.

Thank you.

I do see it.

I had a great audition.

Hey, David Rappaport.

Good enough.

I see you.

I still made it on camera. Okay you I still made it on camera I still made it on camera Just a different camera Just a different you know You are a good actor But look where you are You could have ended up in a quadruple That's okay I love my supporting role That's crazy I'm crying because'm laughing.
I'm excited to see that episode of Wild Card with Kyle. Me too.
Not knowing she was an actor. She's literally an iconic.
She's literally the little girl in Halloween. I watched Halloween for Kyle Richards.
She's in the original. The little brunette girl that Jamie Lee Curtis is babysitting in Halloween is Kyle Richards.
And they brought her back for the last two. They did.
Did you ever see Escape to Witch Mountain? Also, Escape to Witch Mountain. That's where her sisters were.
Her sister was like the little blonde girl. They're childhood actresses.
They are. Kyle.
The crazy thing about Kyle and Kim Richards is like the difference between like the career trajectory of like Jodie Foster and Kim Richards. There's like one single line that they went off differently.

And that blows my mind.

Yeah.

Well, yeah.

Also, Escape to Witch Mountain

is my all-time favorite movie.

Yeah, it's a great movie.

When I was a kid,

I used to watch that all the time.

Okay, all right.

I just watched it again recently.

Escape to, Escape from, Escape,

what are the other ones?

Was Kyle in all those?

Oh, no, Kim.

Kim.

Escape to Witch Mountain.

The original. Okay.
Well, Sydney Sweeney is less fun to say. It's in the alliteration.
It is. Sydney Sweeney is single.
And my DMs are open. No, I want you to say that five times fast.
Sydney Sweeney is single. I can't.
Not even once. It's so hard.
The men of the world rejoice. Yes.
And the women. And the rejoice.
And the women. Natalie did say her DMs are open.
So are mine. We are looking for a third, Sydney.
I'm going to go by the way of Tyler. Sydney, I'd be cool if you just did whatever you wanted to do.
I'll stay at home. I don't even know what that means.
What does that even mean? She can do whatever with the media. I'll sit back in my chair.
If she wants to fake a relationship, go for it. I'm worried the way that you said that.
I'll just sit back and let you do whatever you want. It worked for Travis Kelsey.
You were intimating a lot there. Intimating.
I didn't mean to do that. I really, I think her and Glenn just need to do it.
Yeah. I mean, date.
Well, according to Glenn Powell's mom, Cindy, they are definitely not together. She said, we love Sydney.
We've considered her just a really, really good friend. We were all together so much and we haven't seen her in a long time.
She's really a friend and we all enjoy her. There's nothing going on behind closed doors.
Listen, that, this is what I've been saying all along. I felt like that's why she was at the sister's wedding is when they were filming that movie together.
I'm sure his family was there a lot of the time. She got close with his sister.
She got married. She's like, Sydney, you have to come.
Please come. But they're just both extraordinarily hot people.
It doesn't help that Glenn's girlfriend at the time, they did like break up and there was like, she was not down for the fun. Yeah.
Didn't you spend New Year's Eve with her? And Glenn. So do you have any tea? I'm going to sit or.
Nope. I just think that in the same, I'll compare it to Dorit and PK, but it's like when you put your career and everything above your relationship and leave the person that cares for you most in the dark.
So you feel for the ex-girlfriend? 100%. Okay.
All right. Well.
I remember her like post on Instagram that was like. Like finally something yeah she was like walking by herself or something she moved she like started a new life and like she looks fabulous it was very like fuck you Glenn Powell I mean listen I get their actors and I get they got a movie to promote but yeah do y'all remember the Jessica Chastain one of my favorite actors of all time oh yeah yeah Oscar Isaacs? yes them on the red carpet they're on the red carpet and he's like caressing her oh my god and then people are like wait he's married? like no one knew and we're like that is a moment that's my Roman I think of that red carpet moment constantly.
I'm so glad you brought that back into my memory. It is so.
What do you think about it? Well, I also did not know he was married. I loved the two of them in.
What's the name of that show that they're in? It was scenes from a marriage. It was a remake.
It was a remake of a movie. And I just remember watching, it was like a video of them on the red carpet and the way that he kissed her arm.
It was just so romantic. It was like literally any woman who ever watched that scene turned to their husband and said, why don't you look at me like that? And it was like, well, because they're acting.
They're very talented. He's got a wife and that's not her.
They one-upped the like whisper and laugh in the ear on the red carpet. You know how a lot of couples like to do that and you're like, what are they saying? Because whatever it was, it was so funny because now like she's- Usually it's smile.
Yeah. I think you have to look over here.
Pretend you're saying something funny and that you love me. yeah but now he yeah wow throwback to that love Jessica love Jessica she's from Sacramento my hometown oh represent amazing I love when people get old Hollywood with it like with the way they do things in the press do you feel like getting old Hollywood you feel like that's old Hollywood yes Yes, it is.
She's like a Britney Spears to me. She's like America's sweetheart to a lot of people.
How about old Hollywood too is Britney Spears? Well, okay. That's not what I was saying, but I was saying that.
I don't feel like guys who are fans of her are calling her a sweetheart. Well, I think a lot of people lust after the America's sweetheart.
Others are perverted. Exactly, yeah.
But she leans in. Does she lean in, Sydney? Oh, to the romanticness.
Well, aren't there when she could very easily be like, y'all are stupid. I'm producing this movie.
Yes, we want to sell it. It's like, no, let's lean in and make you guys wonder whether or not you want to see it because you want to see your chemistry and like aren't we are we uh but a source says about her breaking off her engagement what did make her overwhelmed though was her relationship and her wedding she didn't feel right about it and sydney is in the middle of this magical career that she could only dream of a few years ago this is what she wants to focus on right now she's not ready to settle down they only lasted for this long because it was hard for her to break it off they didn't split because there is no love they split because she wants to focus on her career right now.
She's not ready to settle down. They only lasted for this long because it was hard for her to break it off.
They didn't split because there is no love. They split because she wants to focus on her career right now.
I respect it. She's definitely blowing up and the peak height of her career right now.
And I get like, listen, planning a wedding is a lot. And I understand her being like, I don't have the fucking time for this right now.
But it is sad that she had to end a relationship over it. Relations they couldn't sometimes end it is sad but didn't they have like a working relationship as well like didn't he like executive produce the majority of her projects i know he was a producer on anyone but you he was yes so that's why i think a lot of people were well we're wishing everyone involved the best um especially glenn up next the hilarious comedian Eliza Schlesinger has a new hilarious special out on Amazon, and she joins us next.
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One love. Eliza, welcome to the show.
Hey, you guys. How are you? This is great.
We're talking candles and babies. Can we talk about your set? You know what this gives? Like the vibes are like you make like really expensive like hair gummies.
Like the color, it's just like in a nice, it comes in a nice metal package or like it's some sort of like feminine vitamin. Like it's a very sporty country club feminine vitamin space.
Does it make you want to talk and open up? I'm just like, is there free merch? Like it just looks like creatine gummies that, you know, tone, not bulk. Okay.
There's an ad for that somewhere on Ventura and that's what made me think of it. Thanks? Yeah, I love the green.
No, it's very, it's like masculine feminine. It's a good, I like the green.
Well, how have you been? I want to talk about this set more. I'm great.
Nick's obsessed with the color green. I've been on a real green cake.
Well, this is a varsity green versus, you know, like a Kelly green, which is obnoxious. So this is a good green.
Kelly green? Kelly green's like that Irish, like leprechaun kind of green. Oh, yeah.
Like almost neon-ish. This is like an, it's called academic green because I have it in my kitchen.
Like a darker, like you would see this perhaps in the hallowed halls of a university or something. Like a forest? Oh, like a forest? Nick's also a Green Bay Packers fan.
I gotta be honest. I played there.
I mean, it is weird to have a whole city. Like that is the culture.
Like full. Houses are painted like painted.
Like, it is just... You get that in cold cities.
Like, the whole thing revolves around. Because they have nothing else to really, you know.
You get that in cold. Yeah.
That's why Nick's mom had 11 children. Wow.
Yeah. It was so cold.
So cold. So cold.
You had to turn to podcasting for a warm embrace. Well, they just needed one more body.
11? You know, just kind of sit next to each other. Oh, my God.
Yeah. Can your dad give your mom a break? He likes to refer to himself as Thumbbro, which is hard for me to personally hear.
That's a weird thing. I mean, I'll, I'm fine with hearing that, but.
I don't think he gave himself that name. You think one of the kids did it? No, because the people he worked with, I think did.
Are they still together? My parents? Yeah. Yeah.
Okay. Yeah.
I think you got to be at that point. Where else are you going to go? You know, you're going to get divorced after 11.
Which one are you in the 11? I'm the second oldest. Okay.
So you, you know, you had some time to be like one, like kind of the story. Oh yeah.
I was, I'm an only child with 10 siblings. Yeah.
That's the way to look at it. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
That's how I would look at it. I have one brother and I'm like, but it's me.
Well, I have a sister older than me and then I have two sisters after me. And then my oldest brother is seven years younger.
That's a tough one. So I just kind of did my thing.
It was very... Seven years.
What is that? Your parents were just like, you know what? Let's pick it back up again. Yeah.
Well, no, they had two girls in between. But my closest brother is seven years younger.
We're still missing something. But the youngest, how's the youngest? How old is the youngest? 19.
And how old are you? 44. I'm six months closer in age to my father than to my youngest sibling.
Right. You've done that math.
You've had a flight to do that math. A flight with no Wi-Fi.
Yeah, that's a good one. When the youngest was born.
It's a Southwest flight. Are you going to have 11 kids too? Because you could.
I personally don't know if I could push out 11 through my vagina. Why? Is there something special about yours?

Well, after the one, it was just, you know, it's like 11.

It's really hard to think about doing that 11 times.

I don't think you have to do it.

I think it just does it.

It just falls out by the 11th?

I just think, no, but I just think if you did one and you wanted 11,

I think by that eighth one, you're just like, you yawn.

You're like, oh, there it goes.

I think it does get easier.

I do think that's true.

The second one was easier. I was like all ready to push.
I was like, here we go. And they're like, here he is.
And I was like, oh. Is parenting two children versus one, how much more difficult are we talking here? I'm not going to sit here and be like, I do it all.
I have help, but I did get, this morning, had a very emotional talk with the nanny. She's Jamaican.
And I do a terrible Jama accent. But she's like, you do not pay enough attention to him.
And I was like, yeah, because we have you. You got lectured by your name.
And she was right. And I felt really bad.
And I was like, I have to like pull it together. But she was and I was just like, but he's a boy.
And so he's extra strong and extra squirmy. And I'm like, it's not the funnest hang to like hold.
It's like holding a crocodile or like an alligator.

Like it's just rolling.

And my daughter's three.

So I was like, but you can't just put him off until he gets older.

Then we'll hang out.

I would have a hard time getting parenting notes from my nanny.

Oh, really?

I take all the notes from her because she knows better than I.

And she was our daughter's nanny.

So anything I didn't know, we just asked Myrna. And so everything I know now is because of how she did it.
How'd you find her? It was an accident. Oh, no.
We were in line at Ralph's. No, we had hired a nanny because in my mind, I was like, this is how I was going to go.
I'm going to spend my money on this. I'm going to have a baby nurse that lives with us.
I'm a touring comic. I've got three jobs.
I'm not getting up in the night longer than I have to. I don't care what anyone thinks about that because you would too if you could.
And I had her all, her name was Cheryl. I had her all set.
I had done a FaceTime with her. I'm like, great.
I sent her the deposit of a couple thousand dollars. And four weeks before I was going to give birth, me sends me these like really grainy videos of her like not feeling well and I was like this feels like a scam and then she sent me one of her in a hospital she was like oh I've got bronchitis or something was it the same picture that the Brad Pitt used oh my god that is so funny this predates that but that is so funny and I was just like why's your head on why are? And she was, and so I was just like, okay, well, I'm sorry.
I hope you're okay. But like, what about that money? She was like, I'm going to send you my cousin.
And I was like, I don't know your cousin. Like, I don't really know you, but like I had my heart set on you.
Myrna just showed up. She sent her the money, the deposit.
I came home from the hospital and there was Myrna, took my baby and she's been with us. That was it.
Wow. When you are that vulnerable, you're like, okay, here, sure.
You seem trustworthy. I need to go take a shower.
I'm going to wash this blood off. And that's great.
And she's great. And she lives with you still? She came back.
She was the first person I called when I got pregnant with my son before my parents. And I was like, can you get back here? And so she did and she lives with us and I hope she never leaves but at some point

I'll have to learn

how to be a mother of two.

So, yeah.

Your movie

about like an ex-boyfriend

that was a crazy story.

Good on paper.

It's on Netflix.

You can watch it now.

Tyler Cameron's in it.

He is.

Bachelor alum.

That was our big star pull.

We got Tyler Cameron

and he had a cute little scene.

A nice little scene.

Yeah.

He was real hot back then. You know, he's still hot, like physically.
Yeah, nothing happened to him. He was very nice.
Very nice man. But I remember, we have a mutual friend along, Gail.
Okay, yeah. And I saw you do a stand-up a long time ago, and you told this story about this crazy story about this ex, and I remember when the movie came out, I was like, I know this story.
I've heard her tell this story. It's such a crazy story.
Can you remind my audience just a little bit of background, just because we have a lot of daters who listen to this show. You can remind or inform for the first time.
It's basically a story about this movie that I made as a few years old now, but it's about me dating a sociopath. And it's this story where you meet someone and they tell you all these amazing things.
And my story is a little bit different because this wasn't, this movie sort of falls into that like weird category of the Tinder swindler and like those kinds of things or Dirty John, like those kinds of things. My movie came out before all that.
And I do think that these things happen, especially to women, but more than we realize. And it's only now that people are talking about it.
But I basically met someone. We were friends.
And then eventually we started dating. And I learned that every single thing he had said about himself was a lie.
And where my story differs from others is that he wasn't telling me things like, oh, I'm a prince or I've got billions of dollars. He just said he went to a good school and worked at a hedge fund.
Things that I am not so impressed by. It's just different.
It was believable, but like... But totally believable.
Yeah. It's like I went to Yale.
I'm like, cool, so did my cousin. Do you know Brett? Like it wasn't like, oh my God, how did you ever get in there? And then slowly but surely, every lie from the things that he did to the people he knew to where he, like everything unraveled.
And so it's high stakes in that it's your heart, it's not high stakes like oh i loaned the guy money or something yeah but it's a true story and so i wrote it's a great movie it's obviously it's very funny but it has a it's a dark comedy in a way it's a dark comedy when you realize that it is a it is a mostly true story i say it's a true story based on a lie and so it really really did happen. And no, I don't know where he is.

And no, I don't know if he ever saw it.

He's probably dead in a ditch.

Like you probably lied to the wrong person.

And so that was.

Or he's probably lying that he's dead in a ditch. How?

Or he's telling everyone the movies about him.

To collect the insurance.

Yeah.

Which is like a weird badge of honor.

All jokes aside, how are you able to like work through that?

I mean, people in relationship, I mean, shit,

bad things happen to all of us in relationships. People get cheated on.
We lie to us all the time you know whatever but this is this is a this is one of those things that like for some people real fucks really fucks them up you know like going forward like how did you yeah work through all that and and move forward to where you are today which is in a seemingly much better place than when that was all going on. Proud mom of one.
I mean, two. I have a son.
You know, that happened. I think I was like the whole thing took place maybe over two years.
So let's say I was like 32 or 33. So, you know, I wasn't like a naive kid moving through the world.
And I had had other relationships and, you know, met people that you're like, oh, maybe this could be the one. So I was a formed person.
But I am smart enough to, at the moment, in the moment, have acknowledged that it was a crazy thing that happened. So this isn't like you get cheated on and you've been cheated on before and then it kind of becomes this weird pattern.
I knew this was a freak thing and it had nothing to do with me because it wasn't like I met him and I was like, oh my God, you're so impressive. We were friends.
I was like, I am not attracted to you for a very long time. And then because women have this stupid capacity to be in love with a personality, I eventually fell in love with this person despite the fact that they're not attractive.
Like this happens. You wouldn't understand men can't do that.
Also, your wife is beautiful, but like like she's so ugly but she's really funny i've never met that guy ever he's like her punchlines are sick but that one eye is close and uh and so i just knew that it was weird and i knew that i didn't want to be the kind of person who dragged that around like this albatross and like paid it forward so i just took time to myself to kind of do whatever I wanted after that. And I was very honest with any of the guys that I met, like, hey, like I feel I'm feeling really bad right now.
So I can't really be in a position to like be anyone's girlfriend, which, of course, just makes men want you more when you're like, I'm unavailable. And I just took my time and I wrote about it and I wrote that movie.
And so what started out as this very angry, vengeful thing turned into art that in the end really wasn't about him as much as like a comedic exploration of something. And so in the end, I came out totally clean because I wrote about it.
That's awesome. Yeah.
Because that doesn't usually happen. And to be able to take something that obviously affected you and turn it into something you're really proud of is a pretty cool thing.
You know what? I, it was my goal and I appreciate that, uh, that you said that.

I think sometimes we carry around these things and it becomes your personality and you don't

want to be that.

Like you don't want to be the girl that's like still talking about like, it's not like

we got married.

We didn't have kids.

Like it was just super fucked up.

And so I just, I was just like, I want to be so far away from this.

So I worked through it myself, but I knew it was such a weird thing that the odds of

that happening again were basically zero.

And so I just decided to move past it. But you're right, though.
I've done that where a breakup becomes your personality. Yeah.
And you talk about it. And you think that no one can relate to your plight because you've been broken, hurt in ways that no one else has.
You're like, how's the world still revolving? Like when you broke up, like we've all been there. This was just, I processed it.
Everyone, and it also helped because we all went through it. Like my friends had met him.
Like we all put the pieces together in real life. One of my friends was with me when we went to the house and discovered it wasn't the house.
Like, so in a weird way, we all got to unpack this together. Oh, that's nice.
Yeah. It was like a scavenger hunt, kind of.
Yeah, like an emotional scavenger hunt. Yeah.
So fun. You have a new special out on Amazon.
Congratulations. Thank you.
Which one's my camera? Thank you. The one with Nick's face above it.
You've had many. Does it get harder and harder to come up with new material? Does one of your specials have a closer feel to your heart than others? It doesn't get harder and harder because, you know, we're always observing as artists, you know, we're always evolving, one would hope.
So it's not harder. You just are changing your perspective.
I think if anything, there's just a little, it's not so much that there's more thought, but now that you're older, you realize the weight of words. And now that we've all been on the internet for a while, you know, if I say this, it's going to be out there forever.
Your perspective broadened. My first special was somewhere in my 20s.
And so it's a limited scope of what you can fully comprehend. It's not about being stupid or something.
It's just about like your life experiences. And then, so we just got, I have different things to talk about at 42 than I did at whatever, 28 or whenever that first one came out.
And so, yeah. Do you enjoy writing more jokes about like being a mom and a parent versus like, you know, a lot of your specials back in the day talked about dating and going out there as a single woman.
I mean, there's still the observations about men and women, but it's less about dating and it's more about explaining why we do the things that we do. A little bit of insight into our thought process.
In this special, I don't really have any jokes about being a mom. It's something that I'm wrestling with as a quasi new mom because it's a hard thing to depart from all the things you ever talked about to being like, and now mom jokes.
And so the commentary is really more on the experience versus like, and my kid said the funniest thing. And a big part of it is I don't really want, I'm reticent to share a lot about it because I'm still not sure about how I'm feeling.
Like becoming a mother is such a life altering, shattering, affirming, incredibly beautiful, painful thing all at once. And so I'm still processing it.
And so I want to be respectful of that. And I don't want to say anything that I might regret

later just because I was feeling it in the moment because I'm so protective of my children.

So, yeah.

Did you always want to be a mom or did the desire for children come later in life?

I have to think that other women feel this way. First of all, my mom had me a little bit later in life.
I think like in her mid-30s, but not like in her 20s. So to me, it was always very normal to have kids later.
And my mom never pressured me. My family never said anything.
So it was never like, when am I going to do it? And I just kind of always knew in the back of my mind, like, yeah, one day you'll have a little girl and maybe like a little boy. One day you'll have kids.
I just knew that I would. Like, there's just things you know intrinsically, inherently.
You're like, I'll just do that one day. Like one day I'll run a 5K.
That's not me. That's like other people.
I'm never going to do that. Who cares? And so it was something that I wanted.
And then when we got married, we were like, all right, well, let's be married for a little. We'll get around to it.
But I never felt that the age was prohibiting me from accomplishing that. I mean, eventually it will.
It's going to get a lot harder the longer you wait. But I just knew that I would come into it.
At some point. Yeah.
You also had a bit in your special that was about telling women that men don't care. And my boyfriend really appreciated that because he was sitting there being like, no, I'm disgusting.
No, don't touch me. And it's like because you think that they're thinking so many things.
You think that they're thinking so many things. I haven't shaved them i haven't shaved my legs like i don't are do you do you have legs i haven't been looking honestly now people are like people without legs also have sex for sure but uh but guys don't it's just about all the things that we are conditioned to think matter and on some level might for your own self-esteem but like most guys he's just like i didn't even know you had hair yeah i didn't even know you had eyes you're here so yeah but how did you come up with your style of comedy because you are like a storyteller you kind of take us all on a ride of like what's going on with you from the beginning to the end and it always has like callbacks you're just like and I think you're always like educating us and thank you I really do appreciate that teach the baby yeah um, look, I didn't invent the callback.
You know, that's to me, that's maybe it's old school, but I think that's a very polished way to end something. Yeah, I think it is kind of old school.
I love it. I love it because it shows that you put thought into it because I do think of it as a body of work.
I think of this as a piece of art. I don't think of it as I know it's a piece of art.
You know, you're constructing these ideas and these vignettes. And I've just been doing this for 20 years.
And so it's just evolved. I came across some like camcorder footage of me doing stand up and I when I was younger, and it's for what it was at the time.
It's like, okay, but you know, it's it's pretty unwatchable. I just like I love sketch comedy growing up.
And so for me, when I tell a story, I'm not, uh, I'm not like a setup punch kind of comic. I am creating a scene and I see it so vividly in my head and I am just trying to act out what I see in my head.
And I think if I hunch over, if I do a voice, it will, it will, um, create that image for you guys as well. And so it's just me deeply wanting to convey the story and the scene that's in my head, even if I don't look like that.
Isn't it crazy? Did you, when you saw that old video, think about all the things that you had to go through between that person and today? And had you known all the obstacles you'd have to overcome, would that person still have tried what you've accomplished? Does that does that make sense yeah I mean I don't know I mean obviously if we could all go back we'd flat iron our hair so much less um maybe I wouldn't know you know not tweeze so much of our eyebrows yeah I see my I'm older than you so tweezing was in the 90s when I was too young to do it and then it wasn't a thing but I do I do – that is a young person thing. You've got great eyebrows, though.
Thank you. Yeah, I guess I missed the tweezing note.
I always think about that one, which is not your question. I think there is – the beauty in being younger is that you don't – you truly don't know what you don't know, and you think you know everything.
And so it is in that gorgeous ignorance that you dare to try. Because if you did know how hard it was, then you would be paralyzed.
Like now that we see all those pitfalls. But there is a strength in just going.
No one said I couldn't do stand-up. No one said I could.
I just did it. And I didn't have anyone to look up to or imitate.
So I just sort of made it up as I went along. And then you sort of become your own little micro blueprint.
So there is something, you know, you get comics that are like, oh, growing up, I watched Richard Pryor. I watched, you know, just and they just named these comics.
And I didn't. I watched Sketch and I had comedians, like funny people that I liked.
And so I was just sort of doing it because I didn't know that I couldn't. Yeah.
Yeah. Does your daughter know that you're famous and funny and cool on Netflix? Yeah, I made sure to tell her.
I was like, just know mommy's really famous. She doesn't know.
I don't think she has a comprehension of like what fame is, but I took her on the road this weekend. I had some shows in Florida that like basically rounded out the American leg of the Get Ready tour, which I'd been on for like a year.
And I took her and I let her open the show. I let her say like, hi, hi, Tampa.
You're here to see my mommy. And I let her run on stage for a second.
I don't post pictures of her. So this is the stage was dark.
I let her run on stage and she ran on stage. And for the few people that were looking at the stage, they started clapping.
So she runs back. I go, go out again.
So she runs out again and more people clap, you know, and I let her go a third time. And I saw the look on her face when she put two and two together.
Like if I come out here, people will cheer. Doesn't this feel good? And the whole room of, you know, this is like 1800 people started applauding and she ran back and it was such a beautiful moment just to see that.
And then she was like, again, and I was like, we don't Overdo the bit. It's rule of three.
You don't go back out. Then it's weird.
And so.

That's very cute it's it was really cute i think she gets that i tell jokes but i don't think she knows like she doesn't know any difference she thinks this is a normal job right wow did you finish season two of severance i did were you satisfied with the ending yeah i the ending of severance season two was what we've all been waiting for are you guys severance fans yeah we are this is a severance podcast I did. Were you satisfied with the ending? Yeah.
The ending of Severance season two was what we've all been waiting for. Are you guys Severance fans? Yeah, we are.
Is this a Severance podcast? Don't see it. It's too late for you.
You haven't watched it? You can't catch up. Some people are pissed.
Oh, wait. You haven't seen it or you don't watch it? I haven't seen it, but I'm not going to watch it.
Oh, okay. It's too much.
Yeah. It's too much.
We waited. And also as fans, we waited so long for that season two..
The last episode was what we because it was a slow burn. It was a real hang of a show.
It's like a white lotus set in an office. Like it is just a hang.
Yeah, we basically take you the whole first season to even know what's going on. Oh, yeah.
And then, you know, halfway through season two, you're like, do they know what's going on? Like, how's this goat going to come back? So I think that episode was well worth the wait. Okay.

I was very satisfied.

Some people were mad

about any mark, but...

People like to get mad.

No one's ever like,

that's exactly what I wanted.

So perfect.

But yeah,

it felt like the people,

the ending they wanted

would have just ended

the show.

What do you want?

You want to...

They want...

What I want is like a full

dogma explanation of like, what is Kier? these beliefs who had those paintings made what's with the goats what else is happening I think they did a pretty good job of the alternate reality thing are you watching White Lotus too yep and are you I'm sorry I wasn't getting like emotional no I yeah I was like, oh my God, you hit her hard.

I feel so bad for that third friend.

They're me too.

No,

I just,

we don't have to talk about it.

No spoilers,

you guys.

Yeah,

you guys white loaded.

Yeah,

you're feeling good about that.

We just,

we just watched last night,

the Mouse Streets in episode.

I think the part that hits home the hardest,

I'd be really weird if I related to Saxon at all,

is the three best friends.

Cause you cannot have female friendships and threes.

Don't DM me like me and my friends. And we are.
You can't. There's always like the little side conversations.
The friends that DM you being like, no, but my friend group, it's like, call me in a year. Yeah, I've always found that women always have one real best friend.
Yeah, there's always two that are closer. You know, like there's always one person in a group of three that's like not really in the mix.
They're just kind of like along for the ride. Also, what's her name? Carrie, what's the actress? Carrie Coon.
There's so much fruit in this show. All anybody eats is fruit.
And I get that we're in Thailand. Like you're going to have diarrhea.
And everybody, no one's eating real food at any point. It's always fruit.
And she has so much fruit at breakfast. And it's just chunks of melon.
And dinner. And you know that that is not the first take.
And they are just eating melon and tropical fruits at every meal like fruititarian. It looks like a lot of cantaloupe, which I am personally upset by because I don't feel like it is a real fruit.
I love cantaloupe. I love a good cantaloupe.
We get a lot of that cantaloupe. So you love like say- Folks, turn up your podcast right now.
Get ready. Fuck, fuck, fuck.
Say like you take your kids to to restaurant and you're looking at the menu and you're like hmm what am I going to get them okay we'll do like we'll do the fruit plate maybe for the kids and it's a bunch of melon that you're supposed to give your 14 month old son we know it's going to be melon and it's not a fruit plate it's do you want fries salad or fruit I'm like let's get the fruit because will eat this because they don't know any better. But I will tell you, my husband is a chef and cookbook author and just like a food person.
So he was the first one to like expose me to like how great a real melon, like an in-season, hyper-seasonal melon can be. Like locally grown here in California.
Yeah, I don't think I've ever had one. Outstanding.
They're all hard, I feel like. That's because you get them at Ralph's at Ralph's and there's no shame in that.
And you get a ripe one. It's great.
But there are so many different kinds of melon that are in microclimates and grown. And so if you go to a farmer's market, go to like some of those guys that really specialize in it.
And it's really incredible. People give a lot of shit to cantaloupe and honeydew because it's always there.
You get a good one. Outstanding.
Do we think Patrick Schwarzenegger's character is going to be the killer? Oh, can I? So I have a thought. Yeah.
What's your theory? Well, in the. So I call it a sample.
Like at the end when they show the preview for next week, I get very excited about my sample. I'm like weird about it.
They showed a body bag and you could tell by the size of it who it wouldn't be. Like it seemed like maybe slightly smaller.
I think the guy that dies is the husband, the wrinkly husband, husband the old husband Greg? the one that was married to Jennifer Coolidge Greg Gary I don't know anyone's name on the show Gary sorry Greg, Gary, Glenn, Ross yeah I I think it's him because he's of slight build okay and I looked at that body bag Cousin Rico did you pause? no but I just clocked it yeah if there's one thing I can do it's clock a dead body I don't think there's any misdirect maybe? well it's a body bag no butousin Rico. Did you pause? No, but I just clocked it.
Yeah. If there's one thing I can do, it's clock a dead body.
I don't think there's any misdirect, maybe? Well, is it body bag? No, but like they could have just had a body bag. You can't plant a body bag.
It's from like NCIS. They just like cut in a scene.
It's just the next show like coming after White Lotus. I feel like Patrick Schwarzenegger's career is about to skyrocket after this.
Like I feel like he's going to be the new Brandon Sklenar or Glenn Powell who's in every fucking show and every movie. And you're like, oh, my God, I can't get enough of this guy.
Maybe. He's taken off.
He plays the character really well. Yeah.
We've all met Saxon. Yeah.
Some people are convinced he's just playing himself, though. But it'll be interesting to see what his next role is.
I've never met him, so I don't know real personality i walked in behind him at cbs news two weeks ago in new york and i was like about to say something and i was like we don't know we have no connection how was his gate i barely saw it i was because i was getting out of my own car but i just it's like that thing where you're like should i say and like he doesn't know you i'm not gonna go i watch white lotus like um it's also hard when you have to like. I'm in the other room.
I'm also promoting. So we host a podcast.
It's called Vile Falls. And it's like, I know everyone hosts a podcast these days, but it's actually kind of big.
A lot of people do. Okay, please let go of my arm.
You're breathing too close to my face. I do get the sense.
I could be wrong. Everybody on that show is always, for every season, impeccably cast.
And it does it does strike because it's like an actor's actor show i do feel like people have to read for that show i don't know if they offer any of those roles like those things like feel like hard won parts like you acted your heart out to get that yeah i just think everybody's so perfect on that show that they just seem like they were born for that role sometimes i think about like you that'll always be like casting by and it'll say their name like like in the credits. I'm always like, what if I just DM them? I was like, hey, do you, would you want me for anything? Or just buy my Instagram pics? But here's the thing that people, I think don't really know in Hollywood, like a casting director can only get you the read.
It's the producer that gives you the role. Like they can just aggregate like who they think would be right for this.
But at the end of the day, it's not casting. It's Mike White who's saying like yes and no to everybody.
Sure. Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, they have to weigh in, but it's not the casting. All they can do is get you the read.
When Parker Posey's character was trying to convince, like, are you okay? Yeah. I know some real eligible men.
She's like, I love him. He's like, there's no way.
I love Rupert. Yeah, I love Rupert.
That North Carolina accent. At first, I was like, ugh.
It's not my favorite accent. They do it incredibly well, especially, not Chris Isaac.
What's his name? Jason Isaacs, who's like British, nails it. The North Carolina accent is low.
It's like this. And I'm from Texas, so I know the difference.
And as long as I want to hear it, I'm just like, okay. Like, it's always Tar Heels.
Like, it's just it's just it's a low one it really is it is hard to get a southern accent right but theirs is in particular it's down there ugh and so I can I can hear it I can I can hear when someone's from Texas because I am but North Carolina it's it's own thing it's almost like a valley accent. It's really good.
It's very good. Appreciate it.
You see that Duke is pissed off that they're portraying Duke. That's a great pass.
They get so... Look, I play North Carolina a lot.
Shout out to you, Raleigh and Durham and Charlotte. Those shows are always amazing, but they get very...
It is Duke versus North Carolina. Yeah, it's kind of like get over yourself.
Everyone was like, this is so Duke. For Duke to do this, it's so Duke.
Duke would be popping his wife's pills. Duke would not be paying their taxes.
Tax evasion. That's what you learned there about business school.
Don't cheap out the government. Where'd you go to school? Wisconsin.

State?

University of?

Yeah.

University of Wisconsin?

Yeah.

And then Milwaukee.

They did both.

In Madison?

Yeah.

And I've played there many times.

It is so idyllic.

It is so pretty there.

Where do you like better,

Madison or Milwaukee?

I guess I haven't been to Madison in a while.

I mean, I think Milwaukee's a bigger market.

But they're both great.

I mean, Wisconsin fans turn up.

Have you played anywhere in like Alabama?

Yeah.

Or you have?

Yeah.

I've been doing this for a very long time.

Every state?

No, that is a bucket list thing.

There are certain states it's hard to get a gig that's worth going.

So I think there's five states.

Like I've never played Wyoming.

But I have played Montana, which is weird.

I've never played Alaska, which a lot of comics have. New Mexico is a tough one to route.
And I'm blanking on the other one. Like Jackson Hall? Is it because everyone there is rich and boring and doesn't want to laugh? No, it's not about that.
It's about having a performing arts center that would give you the deal that makes it worth it. It's not always about about like if there's people, it's about like what's the offer?

What's the gig?

How,

what's the capacity?

Is there a club?

Is there a venue?

What's the play?

So there's a lot of factors.

And can I tack it onto a vacation?

Right.

How did you meet your husband?

On Raya.

Everybody asks this.

It's on a dating app,

but we've been married for so long.

It's like,

I don't know.

Telling me you've been married.

I don't know,

but long enough that it's. Long enough that you forgot.

We met on,

we met on Raya.

Seven years,

I think we met on Raya

when it was like first out.

I was going to say,

Raya hasn't been around that long.

Well,

because I think it's changed.

Like,

I don't know what it is now,

but it was like for artists.

Yeah.

And at first,

like it was like,

they were just trying to get people

on it,

you know?

I think too,

for dating apps,

it's always like men kind of get a pass. They're like, this is for artists.
But you guys can come on. We need men here.
And so he was on there and that was it. We met.
What was your first date? Our first date was we texted for a little bit. And I remember thinking like this guy, he felt so comfortable.
He was so funny and not like annoying funny. Like I'm fine to laugh laugh at someone else like i definitely like don't need to like be the star and he was like suggested a movie which now that i know him i like never want to see movies and he's like a huge cinephile but i suggested this documentary that had come out before you think i'm like too cool for school it was called tickled and it was about the world of competitive tickling and i was like well this is interesting this is playing in like a playing in like a theater? This is playing, it was called like Lemley Sunset 5 or was the Lemley, now it's just Sunset 5.
It was like, you know, a small documentary and I was like, this will be cool. And it turned out to be a very dark homoerotic expose on the world of like the sexual underbelly of competitive tickling.
Not what I thought it was going to be, but like kind of hot. Is there any other kind of tickling? Is there any other kind? Who else doesn't get turned on? And so we went and he talked throughout the whole movie and I thought it was so cute because he seemed nervous.
And then the movie ended and I was like, hey, I have to go do a set because I had planned it. And like in case he was a dud, I'd be like, well, I've got a set.
But I liked him and I was like, I've got a set. And it's at my friend's bar.
And if this works out, you're going to have to see the act at some point. So he came.
I did my set. And I knew he was a good one because my friend gave him a drink ticket.
And I was like, you can go get a drink because I don't drink before I go on stage. And he goes, no, I'll wait for you.
And he didn't have his drink until I got done. And then we took some muscle relaxers and got drunk.
Yeah. Now we have two babies.
He cooks everything. Yeah.
That's so nice. So does Mick.
He cooks everything. You love cooking? I love cooking, yeah.
I don't get that. I'm not a professional chef, but.
Well, then I don't, why are we talking about this? You better be a professional chef. I don't know if we can't talk about it.
He is so picky in particular in how he likes his food prepared and cooked. Like you like your grilled cheese cut up into squares? No crust.
Yeah, yeah. I'm not a crust kid.
Like what? Like what do you mean? I just think there's a certain way of doing things, right? The first time he came to visit me, I was living in Savannah, Georgia and I was like... Played there.
I was actually just there. Really? Yeah.
Oh my God. Johnny T.
Mercer Theater? Is that right? Yeah, yeah. Oh, how fun.
So he was coming to visit me and I was like talking to my mom, like I think he has like kind of a late flight. Like I should just like have a meal prepared for him.
A ribbon in my hair. Yes, with a ribbon in my hair.
And I was like, I think I'm going to cook him like chicken, sweet potato, and Brussels sprouts. That is a real accent.
Him. Him.
For my king. Him.
For my king. Chicken, sweet potato, and Brussels sprouts.
And my mom was like, oh, you should do like goat cheese and balsamic vinaigrette on the brussel sprouts he'll be like so impressed it's the 90s you should totally make that and i was like okay he'll think i'm such a like chef and i did i had it all prepared he came home from we came home from the airport and he looked at it and i ate it he had like one brussel sprout that's right you did the smallest amount of sweet potato he's literally choking it down i'm like are you okay he's like i actually um hate sweet potatoes and i hate brussel sprouts with all the shit in it i just like playing you said hate hate and i literally was like i will never do this again perfect Did I say hate or did you hear hate? Hate. You said hate.
You definitely heard hate. How she prepared you at Mealsense.
Like a whole meal? Yeah. Without me being involved? Yeah.
No. Tell me you just cook for yourself and she cooks for the family.
Like tell me, he's like, daddy's going to be in the kitchen alone. No, I cook for everybody.
Do you grill? Yeah. I'm going to get you a copy.
My husband's writing a grill cookbook that comes out next year. I love that.
I love to grill. Okay.
What kind of smoke are you working with? Gas. Gas is good.
Yeah. Gas is good.
Okay. He makes an insane steak.
Yeah? On the... Yeah, I'm okay.
An insane steak. The steak's just like...
I'm very good at cooking what I know how to cook. Like what I know how to cook is very good.
And it's about six things. So they're on rotate.

Well, since I've been criticized with everything.

You have my child?

Yes.

Okay.

I cook for her.

Everything.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Every, she is very particular.

All the macaroni and cheese,

all the cheese quesadillas,

all of it.

They love a cheese quesadilla.

I don't like cooking

and it's not like a feminist thing.

It just like doesn't,

to put it in the internet,

like doesn't spark joy.

Like my husband had to make,

he went out of town today

and he cooked like

six chicken breasts last night.

And he was like,

if I don't cook these,

she won't eat.

Cause I'm just like,

I'll just eat a cold chicken breast.

Like someone bulking up

for the high school wrestling team,

like just out of the fridge

and some baby carrots.

Wow.

It just doesn't,

the idea,

like I only recently was like,

I will make eggs

and I will,

and I will not burn them.

If I leave town, it's Chick-fil-A or Thai over there.

Oh, yeah.

Definitely Thai. I'm greasing constantly.

Where do you guys get Thai from?

What's that place, Sierra?

Chain My Thai.

Chain My Thai.

You ever go to Anajac?

No.

Definitely voted best restaurant in LA.

It's like a night market, which I know they probably are like, hey, it's not like each

other, but it's like cool guy, like natural wines. The food is outstanding.
You got to go. Go on a date night.
Do not bring your child. Oh, perfect.
Do not bring that baby. Nobody wants to see that baby.
Nobody wants to see that baby. No one wants to hear that baby crying.
Nobody wants to see that baby. You got to go.
They do like a Thai taco Tuesday and then all the food is just, go in another couple and be prepared to like whip yourself into a whirling dervish of like natural wines and spicy food. It's so fun.
Do you enjoy going in public with your children? I do. Yeah.
I mean, look, the little one is so little. And so it's like, I guess you're just like in a thing.
But I love taking my daughter. And we, you know, we don't, we let her sit at the table and she kind of just joins us in the conversation.
She's not an iPad baby? No. And she just sits there and she eats a lot of sour cream but we like to i'm just so proud of her and it's like being out with her and i'm just enjoying it she won't be little forever what's her name then you hit a wall sierra the most beautiful name in the world it's a great one yeah you already know that is by the way it's great for an hour and then it's like okay you know what you're tired we go.
So we went to the mall recently. Why? Well, you know, we were.
To look around. It was like we'd been in the house for a long time and it was like, let's just get everyone out of the house.
You want to Sportsman's Lodge? We do go to Sportsman's Lodge. It is there.
It is there. But River really wanted to go on the escalator.
It was like huge addiction to the escalator. And so many fits, tantrums were occurring when we were not allowing her.
And Nick was like, we just got, we have to go home. We just have to get out of here.
And I'm like, I don't think she'll ever learn how to be in public if we don't take her in public. They get tired and you're like, you're being bad.
It's like, oh no, you're tired. I took her on the road this weekend.
And so I did tell her, I was like, you've got to carry your own boarding pass and you've got to carry your little suitcase. So she's like walking with it through the airport and it's adorable.
No spatial awareness, just like running into crotches like left and right. But we got on the escalator.
So that's me with my backpack, her car seat on my back, my bag, also her bag. And I'm like, okay, we're going to jump.
And it's like your whole core. And I get her on the escalator and then she just starts to drift up.
And I was like, fuck, I have to be with you. And so it was just me leaping over steps to get her.
And it was very sweet because other moms are like, I got her if you need it. I've got her.
People leap into action when they see you like deeply struggling. And it was fine.
You want to, you want to conquer. I don't remember the last time we were, we just were killing time walking around the mall with no agenda and it felt Nick was pissed.
Yeah, Nick was pissed. He was like, we have to get the fuck out of here.
But then we bought a La Laba Diptyque. Then I lost it.
How do you lose a large candle? How do you lose a big candle? Yeah. Because we were walking around the mall and then we, we set it down.
And then his mom goes, don't forget the candle. And then he, of course, forgot the candle.
It's an expensive mistake. So I went back and bought another candle.
It's giving a cowboy hat on top of the car. Oh, my gosh.
Yeah. And I can't win back from the story.
He's like, you want another one? I'm like, yep. Just here to get another $85 three ounce candle.
I didn't even look at the prize. I didn't even want to look at it.
I was like, just don't let it ruin my day. Don't check that credit card statement.
Having a slight, just a little extra disposal income allows me to not like worry about like if I lost something. Why is the candle, why are candles so expensive? It's a great question.
Why is the same reason probably why perfume and cologne is for no reason? No, it's not. Because really good perfume like has to be, that is thousands and thousands of flowers crushed down to make like half an ounce of fragrance if it's nice versus like garbage that's like half water.
Oh, I didn't know that. But yeah, like when you get like the essence of something, when you get really nice perfume like this is pounds and pounds of flowers and essences and things that have like that is that are crafted.
The candle, I mean, maybe if it's beeswax, you've got to harvest the wax. Or if it's soy, I don't know.
But some of these candles are just $800 for a big thing. You're like, what are we doing here? Who's going to disrupt this industry? Even at Marshall's, it used to be like $10 for a large candle.
And you're like, yes, steel. And now you go there and it's like $25.
So I haven't been back since. Listen to me.
You don't want a $10 candle. We're past that.
Now we know. We talked about this, I think, before.
You don't want a cheap candle. Yeah.
I do have a loose spell. You say soy only? I think it's supposed to be soy only.
There's like a clean burn way to do it. And there's a way that they're supposed to burn.
Like there's a whole art to it. Like you're supposed to cut the wicks after each burn.
I bought one. I bought a wick cutter.
And so my friend owns this candle company called Dev Candle Co. She used to, yeah, and they make these beautiful,

and they come in cement cylinders, and they're really clean.

And I read the website.

I guess to extinguish a flame, you're supposed to dip the wick into the wax

so there's no smoke, and then it just comes back up.

And I guess you pull it back up.

With your fingers?

I don't know.

I didn't get that far.

Because it feels hot.

But if you blow it, then there's smoke. But if you dip it, no smoke.
Extinguish it immediately. Try it.
And then the... Follow me for more hacks on how to trad.
Cut weight because then it gets like big and bubbly at the top. It's called mushrooming.
You don't want it to mushroom. Holy fuck.
You are so knowledgeable. I'm here to sell my candles.
You guys, I... No, I don't.
I have them on tour, but it's not a candle company. But yeah, I just happen to know that.
Wow. Because it is ugly.
It is. It is.
The more you know. I felt like I just said.
This is why you watch your comedy specials. You learn things.
There's actually a whole thing at the end. Like a whole appendix at the end where I just give like tips and tricks on how to burn candles.
Yes, of course. That's why people follow me.
Well, the special is called A Different Animal. It's out on Amazon Prime.
Check it out. Eliza, this has been so much fun.
This was so casual. Thank you for having me to your vitamin company.
Thank you for supporting the cause. Oh my God, remember that? I remember it.
Anything else you want to plug while you're here? I have a podcast and I always forget to plug it. For more tips and tricks on how to be a human, I actually have a podcast called Ask Eliza Anything.
We do live tapings and it is the podcast where the listeners are the guests. So people write in questions from all over the world, things that you're afraid to ask your friends and your families and your loved ones.
And we give you the truth that you need to know. Oh, me and my co-host Emily, but I'm the star.
Okay, perfect. It's mine.
Well, they say don't meet your heroes, but she's one of mine. And that was everything for me.
So thank you for making that happen. It was so cute after we wrapped.
You're like, can I please have a picture? Oh, yeah. And she was like, do you want to come to a show? And like, you could send me an email.
I go, I'll email you. I mean, watch her special.
But like that movie that she did with Tyler Cameron that's on Netflix. I forget the name.
Good on paper. Good on Paper.
It's a good movie. It's a dark comedy.
And it's very much based on a true story. If you love a true crime, man fakes or lies about his identity, it's a doozy.
You should check it out. Thanks for listening.
Guys, next week, we have a great week lined up for you, as, but our going deeper episode is a real banger.

Your jaws will be dropped.

Mary is like,

it was real,

real good.

Remember that one, that one part was wild.

Oh,

when she talked about that phone call.

Yeah.

That phone call.

Gasping.

I just want to say that I,

uh,

I'm glad that my opinions have been confirmed.

Yeah.

You are vindicated a bit.

Told you so.

Anyways, we'll see you next week.

Bye.

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