E956 - Love Island USA w/ Jalen and Victoria Fuller, RHOA, RHOM and Tom Sandoval on AGT

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Speaker 1 What's going on, everybody? Welcome back to another episode of the Vile Files Reality Recap. I'm your host, Nick, and justice for Jeremiah.
Jeremiah.

Speaker 7 Jeremiah.

Speaker 1 Jeremiah? Is that the Wisconsin in me? I think so. Yeah.

Speaker 8 Justice. Justice.

Speaker 9 Period.

Speaker 10 Justice for the most handsome man on the cast.

Speaker 11 The oddest.

Speaker 1 Let's not.

Speaker 10 Did we really need to get rid of him right now?

Speaker 7 Absolutely not. We didn't.

Speaker 6 Did you realize that Casa Moore is tomorrow night?

Speaker 1 It starts tomorrow night. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 They sent home

Speaker 1 the Hannes got that Ace is a.

Speaker 1 It's all. I believe Ace did it all.
I agree. I'm 100% playmates.
We'll break it down in just a second, but Victoria Fuller has returned to the Vafiles. She is here.
She is caught up on Love Island.

Speaker 1 She'll be talking with us. Steve is

Speaker 1 sitting next to her.

Speaker 1 How have you been? I've been so good.

Speaker 10 Thank you for asking. You've been on the go.
Every time you post, you're busy.

Speaker 1 Really? You're doing something. Oh.
You're on the town. You're at a party.
You're at a festival. You're at this.
You're at that. You're here.
You're there. You're up.

Speaker 10 You're down. Are you ever sitting at home?

Speaker 1 Always. Okay.

Speaker 1 Of course.

Speaker 7 Actually, I haven't posted on social media in six days.

Speaker 1 You haven't? No.

Speaker 1 Is that like a deliberate like mental health thing?

Speaker 7 I just don't have anything going on.

Speaker 1 You know, so it's like easier to feel like you're past the point of like pretending that you have something going on in social media. Yes.
Isn't that great? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm like, I literally remember when we used to like be like, all right, what am I going to?

Speaker 12 Yeah. You'd have to like make something up.

Speaker 1 I'm going to take a picture of him today. Yeah.
I'm like, oh, they say post every day. My food.

Speaker 1 Your coffee.

Speaker 7 My coffee. Yeah.
Don't care. It's like, at this point, it's like, I saw a headline.

Speaker 1 Hannah Ann's pregnant. Congrats, Hannah.
Yay! Hannah Ann.

Speaker 3 We love Hannah Ann.

Speaker 10 It's so exciting.

Speaker 1 Well, we have a great episode lined up for you today. Jam-packed.

Speaker 1 First of all, we are going to break down the past three episodes of Love Island, including the one where Megan the Stallion was a part of. And that was just kind of surreal.
Period.

Speaker 1 I haven't forgot about it. They got to grind on her.
Like, I mean. Austin got to do this to Megan the Stallion.
That was crazy. Just like spread eagle showing his crotch.

Speaker 1 No, that was really crazy.

Speaker 12 I don't think I've ever laughed that hard.

Speaker 1 i know it was it was definitely better than the milk challenge we do have jalen later this episode who gone too soon jalen he got a passport just to come to fiji for like three days yeah

Speaker 1 that's all he got his passport for it was like it was just so excited to time out of the country anyways we get to talk to jalen later this episode also later this episode we'll get into some real housewives of miami some atlanta but now let's talk

Speaker 1 okay perfect let's do it do we want to start at the do we want to go backwards or forwards? You want to start with Megan thee Stallion?

Speaker 10 It was honestly the thing that was going to bring America together.

Speaker 1 Megan thee stallion.

Speaker 10 Everyone's working, Megan Thee Stallion. Like, that was the only thing that was going to get us aligned.

Speaker 1 It was kind of shocking just how beautifully it timed up because obviously that show moved so fast.

Speaker 1 They couldn't possibly have timed it or know that Jeremiah and Huda were going to break up or that Huda would have been like just kind of like Huda Hurricane making everything about her and then finally bring in someone like Megan the Stallion to to like no one give a fuck about anything else in that moment and like it honestly like saved the villa for like a split second it really did everyone was like happy and Larry and Drew was like oh my god do you know my name I loved that moment it was so cute I loved it I honestly wish Megan would have like kind of read Huda but she was just like you stand on business you stand ten toes down and it was like well yeah she wasn't there for that you know yeah

Speaker 7 yeah she didn't want to like she was just being a girl yeah she was being girl's girl, which I can appreciate.

Speaker 1 But what she did kind of she gave her like the slightest bit of hard time. What did she say? It was um no, she really didn't.
She was like, oh, your face when you got like mad or something.

Speaker 1 I don't know. Oh, no, she she gave her shit about the baby, the mama.

Speaker 7 Oh, no, yeah, she gave her a shit.

Speaker 1 She was like my favorite moment was like Nick with

Speaker 7 Nick, why did you say mama sita? I loved that.

Speaker 10 No, watching Austin and Taylor and Nick, honestly.

Speaker 1 Unbelievable. Unbelievable.
Twerk.

Speaker 10 It was the craziest thing I've ever seen.

Speaker 1 I can't.

Speaker 10 And like, the way that Austin was moving was something I don't think I'll ever forget.

Speaker 9 He looked like,

Speaker 11 I mean, he looked like a daddy long leg, like

Speaker 12 a little bit of like a grasshopper mix with a daddy long leg.

Speaker 1 It was awful.

Speaker 7 Yeah, it was so good.

Speaker 1 It was really, really bad. It was really bad.

Speaker 1 Didn't Austin win his challenge? Yeah. Yeah.
It was so bad he won. Oh my gosh.

Speaker 10 And then they built the new bombshells, TJ and Adrina.

Speaker 1 Are you good at puzzles?

Speaker 13 Yeah, I am pretty good.

Speaker 1 How do you put your puzzle together?

Speaker 7 I do the colors first.

Speaker 7 Put all the colors together.

Speaker 1 Like before you start putting them together?

Speaker 8 Yeah, before I start. You section them out.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I section them out first before I start.

Speaker 7 What do you do?

Speaker 1 I don't do a lot of puzzles, to be honest.

Speaker 7 He's like going through like a thousand pieces just looking for like the four corners.

Speaker 1 I don't remember the last time i've done a puzzle we did one for christmas a few years ago we started a puzzle yeah

Speaker 1 we started a puzzle and then it sat on our it sat on our dining room table for two weeks forever yeah it was like a 500 piece puzzle 500 something like that couldn't get it done or it was one of those like one of those days where now he was like let's do something fun

Speaker 1 and i was like how about a puzzle oh what was it up to we never completed it was like a christmas like cottage oh it was too much it was okay.

Speaker 9 Like, it was so cute.

Speaker 7 It was like, it was too much.

Speaker 10 It wasn't fun. It was too much.
It was honestly. We tried to make it a competition, you know, of like, yes, of course.

Speaker 1 Speaking of love, Ivan, speaking of breakfast,

Speaker 1 this is just something I just want to share because it really excites me.

Speaker 1 Darling,

Speaker 1 what is the thing in your life that just makes you so happy that you have to have maybe on a daily basis or just something that you really have figured out and you just absolutely love it what is that for you mine's coffee mate vanilla uh coffee creamer wow that's not a that's not a special thing that's so special why is that not special most special thing why is that not special

Speaker 1 alone why is that not special he said special no the cancer in it is special but it's

Speaker 7 fast retainment is special the chunks in it are special

Speaker 7 yeah what's your thing is it an everyday thing i mean you're you're i don't know if if you want to hear myself.

Speaker 12 I really want to tell you his. So if you want to.

Speaker 1 I'm like, Victoria. Do you want to just go ahead and tell me yours? You don't have one? No, I do.

Speaker 7 What is it? It's a non-fat Greek yogurt, and I put a protein powder in it, and then I add blueberries and walnuts.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God.

Speaker 10 I don't fit in here.

Speaker 1 Coffee-made.

Speaker 1 Freshly squeezed orange juice for me.

Speaker 1 Every day.

Speaker 1 Every day.

Speaker 1 Well, I used to get it at Whole Foods, but sometimes I would go and they wouldn't have it and sometimes they would. And it just became like,

Speaker 1 it would really ruin. It was unpredictable.
It was very unpredictable. And I would sometimes go.

Speaker 1 Then there was a Gelson's that had it sometimes. Air One sometimes had it, but theirs wasn't

Speaker 1 very good, you know. And so I have figured it out now because now we're remodeling the lake house and they certainly don't have a Whole Foods at the lake house.
Right. And

Speaker 1 I need to have freshly squeezed orange juice every day. It, like, it, it's the thing that makes me the happiest.
Okay. I absolutely have.

Speaker 13 Get them some right now, please.

Speaker 1 The happiest. No, it's happy.

Speaker 9 And not you, not River, not the dogs.

Speaker 1 As far as eating food.

Speaker 1 As far as eating food. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So now I've been trying to figure out freshly squeezed so I can have it at the lake house because I want to spend more time there. Did you get it? I got one of those.
Yes. Well, first,

Speaker 1 I got one of the, I got a ninja.

Speaker 1 Like a machine.

Speaker 7 No, you you gotta go hand. You gotta go hand.

Speaker 10 He was like peeling all the oranges and like peeling all of like the little veiny patients.

Speaker 1 It was such an ordeal. And then you would put it in the machine and it would like, it would mix with all the white stuff, I guess.
Pulp? The pulp?

Speaker 1 Not the pulp, but like the, the, you'd peel the orange. What's the, I don't know what the fur on the orange thing?

Speaker 7 Yeah, but did you, did you ever strain it? And like put, put it through like.

Speaker 1 No, I did, but it's still not as good. Yeah, it was like a whole process.
So then I got the handheld thing. Absolutely game-changing.
The orange juice is elite.

Speaker 1 Okay. I have some in the fridge.

Speaker 1 I made a whole, I got a glass, I got a glass container. It's never, it's, it's, it makes me so happy.

Speaker 7 Do you do it every morning or are you, are you asking Natalie to do it?

Speaker 1 Oh, no, no, I enjoy doing it. Oh, you do? Oh, God, yeah.
I would probably do it wrong. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I would absolutely never ask Natalie.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 11 It would be, it'd be like, are you serious?

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 1 this is fucked up. He'd be like, you know, go drink your coffee.

Speaker 10 Like, make the color of this orange. This is

Speaker 1 orange. I would never ask that out of it.
Yeah. She could do it.
She could. It's just, it's better for my mind.

Speaker 14 I tried to help him today.

Speaker 10 I was cutting the oranges in half for him.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was. They're very sweet.

Speaker 7 That's a good, that's a good moment.

Speaker 8 That was me giving like an acts of service.

Speaker 1 Good sweet. It's so much easier because, again, you just have to slice it in half.

Speaker 1 It's so, why does anyone ever use a machine? Listen, guys,

Speaker 1 you know what? I've also discovered? What? Do you like shrimp cocktail? Love it.

Speaker 7 Oh, yeah, you made us some.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 I've ruined shrimp, restaurant shrimp cocktail.

Speaker 1 I used to always think that you can only go and get like a good shrimp cocktail at a restaurant because like before that like you'd have like a dinner party or something and then someone bring a shrimp cocktail and it'd be like a bunch of shrimp that's sitting out forever and it's just like kind of soggy and little and like it's just disgusting yeah then you go to a restaurant and then you'd you'd bring up the red shrimp cocktail no it's so easy to do You said that you boiled it, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's real simple. You go to go to a nice grocery store, fresh market, Whole Foods, whatever,

Speaker 1 get the pre-peeled so they take the poop out.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't want the poop out. And then so you just take the skin off real, real simple.
Yeah. You boil some water.
You put maybe crush some garlic and onions. You don't, whatever, just boil water.

Speaker 1 When it's boiling, turn the water off. Put the shrimp in.
Okay. Six minutes later, done.
Turn the water off or turn the stove off? Turn the stove off.

Speaker 7 And then the water will stop boiling?

Speaker 1 It's still really hot. It's like hot.
It's hot, but okay. And then you throw the shrimp in.
Throw the shrimp in. Okay.
Take the shrimp out.

Speaker 1 In the meantime, get a bowl of ice, put the shrimp, rinse it out, put it in the put them in some ice, ice water, cold freezing water. Then I take the water out and then put the shrimp in the freezer.

Speaker 1 And you have to, you eat it right before it's like

Speaker 1 not frozen yet, but like yeah, like it has like a little, yeah, just and it's perfect. This is a process network.
No, it's so easy. You didn't know where you were at.
No, it's not. It's so easy.

Speaker 1 In restaurant shrimp cocktail will never be good enough for you anymore.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I like, um, I like the bigger ones too.

Speaker 1 Anyways, also, that reminded me about Iris, who I, she seems like a really nice girl. Lovely, nice, chill, down to earth, like just like definitely the opposite of Huda.
Like,

Speaker 1 just really easygoing, but she doesn't like dinner. She said that? She said, I, she doesn't like dinner.
I honestly.

Speaker 7 When did she say that?

Speaker 1 Who did she say that to?

Speaker 7 She said, I don't like dinner. That was her statement.

Speaker 1 She was like, yeah, I don't really like dinner. I forgot who she said it to, but it was early.
in her arrival. What is she? Dinner is like

Speaker 8 Charlie, maybe.

Speaker 1 It's like one of my favorite things. It's the best.
Dinner?

Speaker 1 It's like an adulthood.

Speaker 1 What do you do for fun?

Speaker 7 What do you?

Speaker 7 That's so true.

Speaker 1 Like when you go out at dinner. Yeah.
Dinner. Yeah.
You don't go to clubs or

Speaker 1 dinner. You just like have a nice meal.
Should we have dinner? Do you want to come over for dinner?

Speaker 1 Dinner. Like, what do you maybe that just shows us her age, I guess? How old is she? I'm guessing mid early 20s.

Speaker 7 Okay, that probably makes sense. I guess I didn't like dinner at my early age.

Speaker 1 I always liked dinner.

Speaker 13 I love dinner.

Speaker 1 Who am I? Dinner is so good.

Speaker 7 Dinner.

Speaker 1 I can't believe she. That's weird.
I honestly don't think I could date someone who was like, yeah, I don't eat dinner.

Speaker 10 Listen, they're interesting cats. You think they're like, you know, they're, they're, you know, grown and cool and this and that.
And then like, TJ says he likes to build stuff.

Speaker 10 And you're thinking that he like builds houses.

Speaker 10 And then he says he likes to build Lego sets.

Speaker 1 What did you think of Hannah gone too soon, also?

Speaker 1 Spit on that hand. Do you think she just do you think they had sex or do you think she just oh my god, his hips were literally going back and forth.
I mean, she's spitting on the hand.

Speaker 1 Luda and Jeremiah, we assume, had sex. Nick and Sierra.

Speaker 10 They've confirmed they've had sex.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 30 seconds, 26 seconds. First, it was 26 seconds, then he added four more seconds.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 10 He was like 26 seconds.

Speaker 1 That's ice. That's crazy.

Speaker 1 He's like counting his head. But relationships have everyone who's had sex is broken up.
Oh, well. Well, Hannah and Pepe was, you know, not by choice.
Well, they're still broken up.

Speaker 1 I'm just saying either way.

Speaker 1 Sure.

Speaker 1 Well, I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Nick and Sierra still together. But like they.

Speaker 7 I'm a little surprised that they're doing that early on.

Speaker 1 He meant, like, they had sex.

Speaker 1 Next day, Nick is absolutely not having TJ getting Sierra some tea. He seems like he's like really feeling Sierra.

Speaker 1 But he's like, I can't let a guy get you tea, but I definitely want to date other women. And then 100%.

Speaker 7 I know. I was like, I thought that was crazy too.
I was like, are you fucking crazy?

Speaker 10 He's like, no, I honestly, like, I don't see anyone other than you.

Speaker 6 You're perfect. We're perfect.

Speaker 10 Like, we're in the best couple.

Speaker 6 Like, I don't, like, I picture you.

Speaker 10 You check all of my boxes. I picture on the outside, but I don't want to close off.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm definitely still not close. It's literally a pity of a man.

Speaker 11 Like, they have everything they could have ever wanted.

Speaker 10 They're like, but I'm just going to keep looking.

Speaker 1 Like, just in case. Yeah.

Speaker 7 No, it's so true.

Speaker 1 It's crazy. No, like,

Speaker 1 love

Speaker 1 is teaching you.

Speaker 1 Like, men just, like, once they have sex like especially that early on they're just like they're just like i don't know i think i'm good there's something about having sex that actually makes men not like i no i wonder if it would i love that you're saying this right now like as a man if you're not in love like if you're in a relationship great if you're like like we are

Speaker 1 yeah yeah but like you but like when you're dating

Speaker 1 Like there's kind of like a I don't know. It's like a chemical that goes off your brain that says you hate her.

Speaker 7 Well, there's it definitely is like this release for guys where i feel like they have you heard that like guys fall in love through vasopressin i'm not familiar with that one so it's a hormone that gets released in guys when it's like a struggle or like hard to like get and that's how they fall in love and we women fall in love through oxytocin and that's what's released during sex and it bonds you and it bonds you and

Speaker 7 love exactly but guys don't they it releases in them but not as much as women So they don't feel the love.

Speaker 11 Yeah, they do.

Speaker 7 They fall in love through like the struggles and like accomplishing goals together and like doing things like one-on-one with their partner.

Speaker 1 Podcasting together.

Speaker 12 Right.

Speaker 7 And that's how you fall in love, at least for guys. So I think it's like when that vast oppression hasn't like fully developed in them.

Speaker 10 I do. That's a good point, but I also do wonder if Nick was like, I know the show.

Speaker 8 I've seen the show.

Speaker 10 I'm sure Casa Moore is like somewhere around the corner. I'm not going to like close off to you when I know I'm about to go like be around a bunch of bitches, be around a bunch of beautiful women.

Speaker 1 He's like, I'm not going to, I'm not.

Speaker 8 He's like, I'm not going to set myself up.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to set myself up like Aaron or. Yeah.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 12 But here. But it's still his crazy headset with her.

Speaker 7 Exactly. At this point, he's like already basically like leading her on.
Like, if he goes and hooks up with someone in Costa Moore, he's a dog.

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 7 Yeah. No one's going to be like, oh, well, at least he told told her.
It's like, no, you like fucking let her on then.

Speaker 12 Yeah.

Speaker 8 It's like, he's still had sex with her.

Speaker 1 Like, he's definitely still. Yeah.

Speaker 10 Oh, Amaya and Austin, the whole like, he's like complaining about her. Austin Boston.
And then he's like, they were so cute. It's too much.
He's like, it's too much.

Speaker 10 She's hanging on me non-stop and she just won't let me go.

Speaker 1 Yeah, physical attention is not in his love like that. It is not.

Speaker 6 He's handling it way better than Ace did, but like,

Speaker 1 she can't catch a break.

Speaker 1 i know i kind of feel bad for her amaya papaya amaya papaya i love my amazing

Speaker 1 she's she's just not like her her man is just

Speaker 1 her man has not showed up like austin was never gonna be her name in the villa right now austin can't even take care of the whiteheads under his nose he can't take care of her quite yet ace was always he's he's been scheming for shelly since he showed up Yeah, but he's like weird.

Speaker 1 It's annoying because like Ace is definitely the most emotionally intelligent person. Him and Shelly are so cute together.
Like they really, they're just honestly.

Speaker 3 She really likes him.

Speaker 1 They seem like they should get married. Yeah.

Speaker 1 They really like.

Speaker 7 They have potential. Yeah.

Speaker 1 They seem like they're really a fit.

Speaker 1 But there is something about like the fact that I just feel like I don't think, you know, there's all these rumors on the internet about like they don't, I don't think that. That they would.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I don't think that.
They like met and

Speaker 1 I guess they met once, but like, I guess it's not, I don't, I don't think it much.

Speaker 1 Okay. Either way, it just feels, I don't know, maybe it's him coming in with with like a million followers or whatever.
It just feels like he's too good at reality TV. You know, it just

Speaker 1 agree. I think he's influencing us on the show.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I think he comes off manipulative.

Speaker 1 I think he manipulative.

Speaker 1 I think it's kind of fucked that they did not show us the conversations of the elimination tonight. I wonder why, though.

Speaker 11 I think it'll probably be like the they'll show it at some other time

Speaker 6 or on Aftersun. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 7 Yeah. Movie night.
night.

Speaker 1 Movie night. No, well, movie night's would only piss off Pepe.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Movie night's more about the cat.
Like, why'd they hide it from us, the audience? I don't know. Saving it for Aftersun seems stupid.

Speaker 7 No, I don't think they're going to show it.

Speaker 1 I don't think they're going to show it. It was obviously a big deal last year

Speaker 1 with that whole thing. Let's table Jeremiah for a second.
Why do you think they sent home Hannah? Because I honestly thought it was going to be Iris. Because Iris

Speaker 1 kind of floating. She didn't really have a match.
Hannah and Pepe seemed to be hitting it off. Hannah also seemed to be pretty close with the other women.

Speaker 1 Do you think they were trying to make Pepe available for Huda?

Speaker 7 No, I don't think that they were like plotting.

Speaker 1 Why do you think the women sent her home?

Speaker 10 I don't know. I honestly have no idea.

Speaker 1 I was shocked.

Speaker 7 I was shocked by that.

Speaker 8 I was just as shocked as Hannah was.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I was like, wait, what? And if you're Hannah, I gotta get it.

Speaker 1 When Orlandria was trying to comfort her,

Speaker 10 it's like, bitch, I don't want to hear that right now. You know, like them being like, you're a a sunflower.

Speaker 11 You're the light of in this, in this villa. It's like, then why vote me off if you love me so much?

Speaker 8 If I'm your sister, that's crazy.

Speaker 10 It's like, this isn't the time.

Speaker 1 And then like, write me a letter. When they eliminate both like Jeremiah and Hannah, it starts off the same.
It's always like. We love all of you.
You're all the same. Like, honestly, it's so hard.

Speaker 1 And then, like, the last thing they both say was like, well, we just based our decision based basically because this person is a piece of shit.

Speaker 1 They didn't actually say that, but they're like, just like, you know, like, we took everything in consideration. And there's always like this kind of subtle

Speaker 1 jab about like they did it wrong or something.

Speaker 13 You know, like the way they moved in the middle.

Speaker 1 The way they moved. And it's like, what the fuck is that supposed to mean? I know.
Only poor Jeremiah knew like as soon as Taylor started talking.

Speaker 1 Ace did it. Like the fact that Ace didn't stand up.
and like own his shit because that was 100% ace. Ace 100%

Speaker 1 told Nick and Taylor what to do.

Speaker 7 Absolutely he did. Ace is the ringleader.

Speaker 1 I honestly don't.

Speaker 7 I honestly don't really. I like him in the couple with Shelly, but I don't individually like him.
I think he's kind of like, I don't know. He thinks he's smarter than he is.
Like, he's kind of like.

Speaker 12 I think he definitely has a hidden agenda for sure.

Speaker 1 I agree. All the Ace is obsessed with Huda conspiracy theorist.

Speaker 7 Oh, he's obsessed with her. Or he was at least.

Speaker 1 And that, do you think that's why he hates Jermah?

Speaker 7 I think from the very beginning, that was why.

Speaker 7 Because he thought that Huda, from the very beginning, he thought that Huda, during that like mass challenge or whatever, he thought that like Huda was making out with him or something.

Speaker 7 Or did he make out with her?

Speaker 10 He went and made out with her.

Speaker 7 Yeah, he wouldn't made out with her. And she was like, well, I didn't get up for anybody.
And then he kind of made like a weird thing with Jeremiah.

Speaker 1 He's like, well, that's because also Jeremiah, like Ace is clearly like the ringleader. Right.
Nick and Taylor follow him.

Speaker 1 And Jeremiah just kind of does his own thing. And he's clearly like the best looking guy by a mile.
And then Huda left.

Speaker 10 And then the bombshell bombshell comes in obviously is giving like jeremiah the attention it's just like it comes from a place of jealousy and like ace is always talking shit about people always it was crazy that the three of them ace nick and taylor were all talking shit about jeremiah with adrina like when they were kissing and like sitting on they were all talking shit about him being like damn like the way he moves and the way he like

Speaker 10 Just talking about the way he's done this whole and then for them to like vote him off the, you know, hours later.

Speaker 1 It's like.

Speaker 7 yeah, and they're saying, like, oh, he came in here. They said that he came in there, like, focused on Huda and then wanted to get to the end with her.

Speaker 7 So they were like making it sound like he was being manipulative.

Speaker 1 It's like, what Jeremiah is moving on, like, the all wanted him to move on. Exactly.

Speaker 1 Bombshell comes in.

Speaker 10 And they're, oh, he was like, he's writing off everyone and saying, like, oh, platonic this, platonic that. It's like, the only person he's been with is Iris.

Speaker 10 She's been the only bombshell since it was.

Speaker 1 It clearly wasn't a match. They didn't really like vibe with each other they were super chill and nice about it and like i don't yeah i don't know they did they did jeremiah

Speaker 1 who would you have voted off i i really warmed up to austin pepe are pepe

Speaker 10 probably pepe it's like i wish they could have changed their answer i don't know if they could have but like when they saw hannah got voted off i wish

Speaker 1 i just think it's that they didn't show us like what they were saying like why why are they protecting the cast that way i know that's kind of strange it is weird like don't i mean i know you can't show us everything but like I want to see a little bit of like how it was influenced.

Speaker 1 I agree. What were the talking points?

Speaker 7 I think that's why they, I don't know. I feel like they didn't want us to, like, know.

Speaker 1 Who do you think they're protecting?

Speaker 12 Ace.

Speaker 7 For sure.

Speaker 7 With the girls, I don't know, really, because I think they probably all agreed on Hannah. I don't know why.
There must be something.

Speaker 1 Hannah was kind of a freak. Really? The way that she was doing that milk challenge? Oh, my gosh.

Speaker 11 Honestly, no.

Speaker 10 Wait, Nick was when Nick swallowed.

Speaker 1 Ew, and he was like,

Speaker 1 That challenge was absolutely disgusting.

Speaker 7 Could you imagine milk spitting it into someone's mouth?

Speaker 11 Milk is already like

Speaker 11 only good when it's cold.

Speaker 6 Ice fucking cold.

Speaker 11 It has to be right out cold.

Speaker 1 So cold complimenting either cereal or a chocolate chip cookie, just like

Speaker 1 just like as a cup. I've had a glass of milk as a drink since I was six.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I guess I haven't either.

Speaker 1 Maybe like chocolate.

Speaker 1 When was the last time you had milk with dinner?

Speaker 7 Dinner.

Speaker 7 It honestly makes me sick to think about it.

Speaker 1 Dinner. I used to.

Speaker 9 People do that too.

Speaker 6 I used to do it.

Speaker 7 We used to do it in my family every night. We would have a cup of milk.

Speaker 1 When I was a kid, yeah. Absolutely.
And then, like, one day my family stopped. That was when I was a kid.
They were like, this is, this is stupid. I was like, okay.

Speaker 1 It seemed weird, but I was drinking sweet tea out of the nipple.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Arnold Balmer. No, there are families out there who sit down for dinner and everyone has a glass of milk.

Speaker 7 I know.

Speaker 1 That was a thing like

Speaker 1 in the 80s. In the 80s.
That wasn't born in the 80s. Is it still a thing? I was in the 90s.
Period. Period.
She's young. The button.
Just a glass of milk.

Speaker 7 Just a glass of milk for dinner.

Speaker 7 And you're like chucking.

Speaker 1 Just a roast beef. Oh, my God.
I'm a throw-up. A bowl of spaghetti and milk.

Speaker 1 Yeah, spaghetti and milk. Ew.

Speaker 1 Sick. Pork chops and milk.

Speaker 10 I only had milk at breakfast.

Speaker 1 What the fuck?

Speaker 10 His bones. I only drank milk up until my sister, who hated milk, told me that it was cow's blood with no red blood cells.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 11 And I was like, oh my God, I could never touch this shit again.

Speaker 1 Why would your sister tell me? I don't know.

Speaker 10 I think she just like didn't want milk in the house.

Speaker 1 And so she was like, if I convince my little sister that it's just blood. When we were kids, we used to have, when we would have macaroni and cheese, we would, we would imagine it being the most

Speaker 1 like I was a picky eater.

Speaker 7 Please don't make this gross for me.

Speaker 1 We would just like just be like, I'm eating. We would come up with like gross, disgusting things or like what we thought was fancy food because but it was mac and cheese

Speaker 1 you were like i'm eating s cargo yeah oh okay no like i'm eating brains yeah no we'd do that too okay yeah he was creative

Speaker 1 he was using his imagination well it is you're creative he's a creative guy yeah well my parents

Speaker 1 like toy guns i had to use sticks you're like pow pow

Speaker 1 yeah

Speaker 10 well honey that was they don't they probably didn't even make toy guns then

Speaker 10 You know?

Speaker 1 So you weren't missing out. No one had a toy gun.

Speaker 1 I missed it by a couple of years. A couple years.

Speaker 9 Only 10.

Speaker 1 Truly.

Speaker 1 Milk and spaghetti. Milk and spaghetti.
Spaghetti.

Speaker 7 I remember it fondly.

Speaker 1 Does that make you hungry? Yeah. I honestly would go for some milk and spaghetti right now.

Speaker 1 According to the internet, Nick did not have a cold sore. Where?

Speaker 7 On his face? There was a

Speaker 1 couple episodes. I don't know.

Speaker 6 He should have disclosed.

Speaker 10 He should have in his ITM, in his little interview, he should have been like, I know y'all are watching me, and I'm going to go ahead and let you know right now. I cut myself.

Speaker 6 Okay.

Speaker 10 It's just a little cut.

Speaker 11 And now it's a little inflamed and red because it's irritated.

Speaker 10 Just to let all you know, it's not a cold. Like, he should have given us a PSA.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Are you shocked that Huda's such a bad flirt? Like, the moment she got single?

Speaker 12 Like, it was, it was.

Speaker 6 It was hard to watch.

Speaker 12 It was tough.

Speaker 6 she's a hard watch in general

Speaker 10 i think well she said it herself she was like i'm used to men being like obsessed with me and so like if she has to work for it i don't think she's good at it you know and she had to work for it with pepe she had to work for it with tj and they both were kind of like

Speaker 1 huda goes from like guy looking at her across the bar to like planning a wedding yeah that's how fast she moves i know i know it's interesting Because

Speaker 1 I don't know. Have you ever, I've been a Huda.

Speaker 10 We've all had a moment or two of a huda.

Speaker 7 What did she say?

Speaker 8 Oh, when she's sitting there talking to TJ.

Speaker 7 I've never spoken to anyone like that.

Speaker 10 When she's sitting there talking to TJ and he's like, by the way, like, I'm not interested in you. Like, you know, like at all.
And she's like, oh, don't worry. Like, I'm not mad.

Speaker 10 Like, I'm not going to scream like, fuck you or anything.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 7 And she literally just did lots of people.

Speaker 10 Ma'am, you've been screaming, fuck you, you're a bitch.

Speaker 1 You're going to pussy left and right.

Speaker 1 It's tough because, like, every, she's just, listen, we've all had our heartbroken. And when you're heartbroken, you make everything about you, yeah.

Speaker 1 But like, every sentence out of Hudda's mouth starts with I or me. Like, I'm, I'm always this, I'm never this.
Like, I would never do that. I'm always like this.
Like, it's just a lot of me.

Speaker 1 It's all about her. Yeah, it is.
And she's always like, it's not always about me.

Speaker 1 Even when she's like telling you, it's not about her, she's talking about her. She's just always describing herself.
She, uh, she felt very.

Speaker 1 Did you were you moved by the her words with Jeremiah upon his exit or did you feel like she was just standing on

Speaker 7 i think she probably meant what she was saying to him because they had real moments but i just think they were that was just like so toxic so toxic i do think that was a genuine response being like oh fuck now this guy's like like he's gone and i can't even talk to him if i want to yeah and so i'm sure like the tears and all that stuff was and then he kissed her on the forehead and i'm sure that made her feel like some type of way you know their interaction was sweet Yeah, what do you think's gonna happen with Tutta?

Speaker 10 Well, that's the thing, is like that's why I'm kind of confused by

Speaker 10 why producers didn't have more of a say in this voting.

Speaker 1 Like, I guess it's kind of undatable.

Speaker 10 They're going into Caso more, and so it's like the only people that are going to get a reaction out of Caso more are the people who are like solidified in couples and who are going to be like pissed off that their man is doing something over there.

Speaker 10 Yeah, so that's clearly Ace and Shelley, Nick, and Sierra, Alandrea, and Taylor. Like, no one else, it would have also been Hannah and Pepe.

Speaker 10 It would have been Amaya and Austin and it would have been Iris and maybe TJ, I guess.

Speaker 10 They're like starting off their little thing, but like, that's why it doesn't really make sense as to why they would send home Hannah.

Speaker 1 I know.

Speaker 6 Because she would have had a reaction to Pepe, and Pepe probably.

Speaker 10 would do because they're they just started talking like they just started you know so he might have like folded and cost them more she would have had a big reaction maybe hannah's the one who would i Hannah might have fucked someone.

Speaker 11 Maybe, I don't know. Like,

Speaker 6 but I feel like they would have had like a reaction.

Speaker 10 And so it is like weird that they sent home somebody and a couple.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 And like a strong couple.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 But also too, I think that they're playing chess in this and they probably know a little bit of what's going to go down. And like Huda being there obviously is really good.

Speaker 1 TV. She's great TV, but she does kind of feel almost undatable.

Speaker 1 And I'm not meaning that like as a, but it seems like, it does seem like up to a certain point like they showed Iris pat like Iris was doing like some kind of tick tock or whatever and she was like watching the first few episodes of love island packing to go to Fiji yeah she's like trying on her outfits to go to Fiji yeah and in the background was like yeah it was so they don't like they don't like bring everyone all at the same time you know you right make someone right no people but it seems like they watch and like they mention like when when bombshells come in they're like they clearly are watching yes so like if you're watching huddle do this with jeremiah

Speaker 1 it is gonna be hard for her to start over i agree like what guy is gonna be like yeah no i'm yeah like i'm going in there for that she'll be different with me yeah you know yeah people love a fixer i mean they love to they do love a project like i i'm kind of i kind of love a project it's gonna take a special guy yeah it will take a special guy and i think that maybe she could have her moment i mean that would be incredible if she finds love on this show that would be amazing they did show the five it's only five women that go into casa and five men that come into i definitely thought it was like more than that maybe i'm thinking of temptation island where it's like a ton of women no it's i think it's only five it's only the equal number of people who were there so wait interesting for the vote they four women were safe and three guys were safe

Speaker 1 no four four guys what four guys were safe you get nick ace taylor nick and

Speaker 1 ace hoda got the fourth and then jeremiah yeah because there was more women than guys

Speaker 1 oh yeah,

Speaker 7 interesting.

Speaker 1 Because I feel like Ace, I mean, they're all very popular, but I feel like Nick being matched with Sierra and Ace being matched with Shelly and Taylor being matched with Landria.

Speaker 1 I feel like the men benefited from the women's popularity. I feel like

Speaker 1 people loved those women and they wanted the men that they were with. It's almost like they voted for the men and supported them.
And then with Jeremiah, it was kind of on an island.

Speaker 1 I don't feel like America voted against Jeremiah. I feel like they kind of forgot to vote for him.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 In a way, that makes me sad though, because I think he deserved a chance.

Speaker 1 I'm curious. I haven't been online since his exit, but I feel like there's going to be a little bit of outrage.
I agree. Give me the uproar.

Speaker 7 I need to know.

Speaker 1 He's beautiful. He'll be fine.
I know.

Speaker 1 But he really seemed like a stand-up guy. He did.

Speaker 7 I mean, he never once

Speaker 1 clapped back at Huda.

Speaker 7 And he always kept his composure. Most guys would have been like.

Speaker 10 First headline I see is Ace, I will never forgive you for this.

Speaker 1 what about Jeremiah No, it was all ace. Yeah, it was

Speaker 7 Jeremiah said that about Ace?

Speaker 10 No, no, no, that was just like a headline of someone's reaction to tonight. They said ace I will never forgive you for this.

Speaker 8 Okay, yeah.

Speaker 10 Because Nick even came up to Jeremiah and be like, you know, you're my best friends in this house.

Speaker 5 Like,

Speaker 6 so why'd you butt off your best friend?

Speaker 1 Exactly. Well, first of all, you've, we've seen Ace, like in every conversation, like share his opinion, talk shit, try to convince the other people listening about why his opinion's right.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's always talking about how he doesn't like how people move. You know, fucking Ace was like outspoken.
You know, he was just like talking about how like Jeremiah has been closed off the whole time.

Speaker 1 I think it's fucked up. I don't know.
It's this game. To me, it's this game, game, game.
You know, he was talking to shit. And Ace was not going to let it not be Jeremiah.

Speaker 7 You definitely was all about Jeremiah's Smear Campaign.

Speaker 1 All right. Well,

Speaker 1 Victoria, thanks for stopping by. Of course.
Thank you for having me. Great having you.
Love you guys. Love you.
All right. Up next, Jalen Brown joins the show.

Speaker 1 And then following our interview with Jalen, the household will join us and we'll get their thoughts on the previous episodes of Love Island.

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Speaker 1 Jalen, welcome to the Vile Files. It's great to have you, buddy.

Speaker 16 You, what's going on? What's going on? I'm glad to be here.

Speaker 1 Oh, man, we're so excited to talk with you. First of all,

Speaker 1 it was really sad to see you go.

Speaker 1 I felt like you had a great few days in the villa uh you were gone too soon how are you feeling now that you're back in the states you're settled in how's your heart feeling are you kind of like comfortable with how things played out are you excited about what seems to be your newfound internet popularity are you still kind of like having fomo from being away from the villa man this is like

Speaker 16 you know, coming from a small town,

Speaker 16 this is crazy, man.

Speaker 16 I'll say I'm just overwhelmed.

Speaker 16 I just feel like like like everywhere i go like it's just like oh you jalen from love island jalen from love island yes i am you know what i'm saying i had to take a picture here i take a picture there it just feels like wow i'm really like living i don't know maybe like feel like i'm on 2k like a my career um thing like i'm feel like i'm on top of the world man um from the from the support i'm getting and just like

Speaker 16 it's like wow it's like a wow moment like it feel like a dream almost that's That's awesome, man.

Speaker 1 I think everyone's just super happy for you. You really obviously connect with the audience.
And clearly, so many people were sad to see you go.

Speaker 1 I was, you know, when you entered the villa, it really seemed like at the time, Taylor and Alandria were just kind of more like friends.

Speaker 1 And when you came in, being the country boy that you are and her constantly talking about how she likes a country man.

Speaker 1 And then she paired up with you, it really, I really thought that you guys were going to really take off from there.

Speaker 1 And from your perspective, why do you feel like things didn't, you know, go the way we all kind of anticipated things to go with you and Alandria?

Speaker 16 I feel like Taylor had more time. You know, they starting five.
They had more time. I didn't have much time to work with.
But, you know, I'm coming in there just being myself.

Speaker 16 And at the end of the day, I was just being myself. Like, just, hey, I'm JB.
You know, I'm from this place, that place. I thought we had something in common.

Speaker 16 But, you know, unfortunately, she had a better connection with Taylor. So I wish them, wish them two the best.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's all. Was there a point on your date where you kind of felt like, you know, I don't know, maybe it's, we're just not connecting the way I hoped?

Speaker 1 Or like, when did you kind of notice her kind of leaning back towards Taylor?

Speaker 16 I thought we was doing good.

Speaker 16 I'm not gonna lie,

Speaker 16 I thought we was doing good, you know, but hey, um, I guess, I guess not. Um, I'll say probably,

Speaker 16 I don't know, I thought we was doing so good, but you know, she made the best man win.

Speaker 1 So she went with Taylor.

Speaker 1 You're a gentleman, man. So when you, when you like unlock the door, and like, that's so brutal, by the way, like, it's like, it feels like no one wants to open a door that's locked.

Speaker 1 There's something kind of like

Speaker 1 clumsy about it. And they really set you up for failure.
That kind of sucked. But like, were you going when you went to open the door? Like, what was your confidence level at that point?

Speaker 1 Did you feel like, I don't know, man, or like, was it like 50-50 in your mind?

Speaker 16 It was like 50-50 in my mind. I say,

Speaker 16 you know,

Speaker 16 me,

Speaker 16 when I grabbed that door handle and I was like, oh man, I was like, wow. So I knew it was going to be Taylor at the end of the day.
So I was kind of like, okay, I mean,

Speaker 16 it was either me or him at the end of the day. So I was, I mean, like,

Speaker 16 it was like, okay,

Speaker 16 she got a better connection with Taylor.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Before you showed up at Love Island, you're a trucker.

Speaker 16 Yes, yes, I am a trucker.

Speaker 1 Hell yeah, man. That's great.

Speaker 1 Like, I feel like there's so many times, especially nowadays in 2025, it feels like a lot of the people who get casted on these shows, they're like, are already influencers.

Speaker 1 They're already on social media. Like you're like doing real work.
You know, it's a cool job. You don't, you know, you don't hear about like, you know, kind of trade jobs.
So like, credit to you, man.

Speaker 1 Like, but how did you get discovered? And how did you end up, you know, being a trucker and end up on Love Island?

Speaker 16 Oh, so I'm going to go ahead and say a shout out to Neshea, one of the producers on Love Island. She found me on IG.
And we kind of went from there, man, because I was shocked.

Speaker 16 I thought it was a scam or some like, some type of thing. So I didn't know it was for sure until I did some research on the Shea.
I'm like, oh, shit, it might be, might be real.

Speaker 16 You know what I'm saying? So Nash found me on social media and I don't know how, but just went with it.

Speaker 1 Well, the rest is history. And so it's true that you had to get a passport.
This is your first passport or you got your passport just to go to Love Island?

Speaker 16 Yeah, I got my passport just to go to Love Island. I've never been outside the country.
Never.

Speaker 1 Are you going to start using this passport now that you have one?

Speaker 16 Definitely, definitely. I got to travel some more man it just fiji opened up my eyes you know it's more out there other than you know um farmland just um you know just land and um trail rides

Speaker 1 all type of stuff so

Speaker 1 you have uh you have all these brands like hotels are hitting you up and in the comments you got i think delta all these airlines so have have any of them actually come through and and offered you any cool exciting opportunities yeah definitely um a lot of them um i say um delta offer some.

Speaker 16 We got the Hilton, a couple more offer some too, like just free trips on this, this day, that day. And

Speaker 16 I want to say, I want to thank them, man. Like it's really a dream come true.

Speaker 16 I never would have thought that, hey, man, me coming off of two episodes, three episodes, hey, Jalen, you're going to be famous after this.

Speaker 16 This big, you know what I'm saying? I had. I think 48 hours, I had a million followers.
So like, what the hell, man?

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was pretty funny. Like, my producer Leia told me that you got to 500,000 followers and you got like balloons to celebrate and thank the audience.

Speaker 1 But by the time you posted, you're already at a million.

Speaker 16 That's what I'm saying. I got a cake, everything, like 500K.
Then I started reading the comments. I read some of them and they said, we're going to get you to a million.
I'm like, no, y'all not.

Speaker 16 Y'all ain't get me to no million.

Speaker 1 I'll check my phone.

Speaker 16 I think some minutes later, I'm like, I'm at 800.

Speaker 16 Okay, I'm at 800. Okay.
Oh, shit. I'm at 900.
So I saw like, oh, I'm really, they really not playing. So shout out to them, man.
Shout out to the supporters. They wasn't playing.

Speaker 1 You're at 1.5 million now.

Speaker 16 Yeah. I mean, y'all, like, I'mn't expecting this.
I just made a TikTok. I never had a TikTok.

Speaker 1 We love it. I never follow you.
What are you going to make your TikTok page about?

Speaker 16 Just traveling,

Speaker 16 fitness,

Speaker 16 just about my life, you know, just, you know, about me, really just me.

Speaker 1 Okay. Hell yeah.
I'd love to ask you some questions about your castmates in the villa. You got to know them really well.

Speaker 1 Now that the season has really kind of taken off and we're smack in the middle of it, there's obviously a lot of different opinions about the rest of your castmates.

Speaker 1 Have you been keeping up with the show since you left?

Speaker 16 Not too much, but I've just been trying to get just see my family members, get back in touch with them, ask how they...

Speaker 16 what they saw me on TV, what did they think of it and stuff like that, just getting their reaction or whatever, but I have been just a little bit, just a little bit.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 7 All right.

Speaker 9 What did your family think of you being on the show?

Speaker 16 Oh, man, it was crazy. So my grandma and my mom, they was like, oh, my gosh, you had on that leather suit.
You're kissing out on girls. What the hell are you, you know, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 16 Like, wow. So it was just like,

Speaker 16 what the hell, Jalen doing on TV, kissing out, you know what I'm saying? Like, that's how it was, man. It was like, mom, you know, I'm on TV.
This is Love Island. This is what they do.

Speaker 16 You know what I'm saying? So they was like, damn, I didn't know you do all that. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 So, yeah, it was like.

Speaker 16 Okay, Jalen, you know, like that. It was a reaction like that.

Speaker 1 Were you surprised to hear that Jeremiah got sent home?

Speaker 16 Yeah, yeah. I was surprised a little bit.
I'm not going to lie. Shout out to Jeremiah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, shout out to Jeremiah. He seems like a really good dude.
A lot of the fans' reactions and kind of what we all thought was

Speaker 1 it really seemed like for whatever reason, like Ace seems to be kind of like the leader of the pack. He has a lot of opinions about a lot of people.

Speaker 1 He kind of seems to talk shit about people behind people's back.

Speaker 1 And for whatever reason, he always seemed to kind of like have an issue with the way that Jeremiah was moving and a lot of people are blaming ace for ultimately the men's decision to send jeremiah home you were around these guys for a few days like how did you see the dynamic of that group is ace kind of the ringleader of of like between nick and taylor or is that maybe an inaccurate perspective that people are just like coming up with on their own i think people just coming up with that on their own you know they just see more camera time i guess on ace i mean and they see ace just

Speaker 16 you know, being ace, you know what I'm saying? So I just think people got their own opinions about things. But me personally, I feel like it wasn't on ringleader.
It wasn't on pack leader.

Speaker 16 All the guys did what they wanted to do.

Speaker 1 And that's okay. Why do you feel like they came up with the decision to send Jeremiah home if you had to guess?

Speaker 16 I don't know why they sent Jeremiah. I don't know why they did that.

Speaker 16 No, I want to sent Jeremiah home, but you got to make a decision at the end of the day, you know, but I'm trying to think.

Speaker 16 I really can't think of a reason why they sent Jerry home between Jeremiah Austin and Pepe.

Speaker 1 Who do you think if you were like, who would have been your vote?

Speaker 1 I mean, again, they all seem like great guys, and that was that's what's crazy about the show is they make you pick somebody, even if you love all of them.

Speaker 1 Like, who do you think, just based off of like connections and who would have been your vote?

Speaker 16 That's hard. Um, I love all three of them guys, man.
Um,

Speaker 16 man, I'm acting like I'm on the show again. I make a decision.
This is crazy. Um, if I had to pick,

Speaker 16 I love you, Austin, bro. I love you, Austin.

Speaker 1 But okay, um, I thought maybe Austin would have gone too.

Speaker 16 Yeah, I love you, Austin, man. Like, bro, like, it's so hard.
I can't pick between the three, but if I had to, if I had to pick,

Speaker 16 I mean,

Speaker 16 it'll have to be Austin.

Speaker 1 Okay. All right.
Well, I appreciate your answering the question. It's a tough question to answer.
So, thanks for playing the game.

Speaker 1 Not to rub salt on the wound, but were you pretty bummed to not get to meet Megan the Stallion?

Speaker 16 I was kind of like, wow, I mean, they would do it when I leave.

Speaker 1 I was like, wow, they would do it when I leave.

Speaker 16 I mean, but it is what it is, man. You know, I might meet her, you know, out here.
So there you go. Who knows?

Speaker 1 Maybe.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I don't know.
Maybe, maybe she'll slide in. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 16 She might, she might. Kalani, Kalani even tweeted about me, man.
I was shocked by that.

Speaker 1 Have there any other like

Speaker 1 celebrities or famous people that like either comment on your page or that you've been able to interact with that kind of blown your mind?

Speaker 16 I say Kalani, um, she she did a post about me, um, one, um,

Speaker 16 and Coco, I forgot her name, Coco, she's a tennis player. Shout out to Coco.
Um, she said, um, something under the under my um Instagram Love Island picture. She said something, but shout out to her.

Speaker 16 But I know some other people said something too, but I forgot.

Speaker 1 Okay. The internet couldn't help but notice that you seem to follow all of your castmates but Huda.

Speaker 16 Listen, listen, listen, it's listen, listen listen listen listen to me y'all y'all here we go here we go here we go y'all it was it was um um all every all so the people who managing my page

Speaker 16 they still managing my page okay yeah i'm like what they unfollowed so they basically unfollowed all my friends all that stuff followed follow i guess the people they liked on the show and went with that yeah that makes a lot of sense everyone's got people managing their page so that wasn't that wasn't jalen that wasn't you that was no that wasn't me that was your people kind of being being fans yeah they even they even unfollowed my family members okay what

Speaker 16 now you don't even know who you were following this is what i'm saying like i'm like what then people calling me hey um jb what happened man you just you to hollywood now you unfollowing me

Speaker 1 you got you got to get back hold of that instagram man or that yeah yeah yeah yeah so what i gotta um obviously huda's like created a lot of like waves and people have a lot of you know mixed feelings about her.

Speaker 1 How was your time with Huda and what was your perspective on how she moved in the villa?

Speaker 16 It was kind of like a hay-bye-high relationship.

Speaker 16 We had, um, it was like, hey, you know, we ain't got nothing against each other. You know what I'm saying? We just talk just a little bit or something about probably about fitness or just about life.

Speaker 16 How you doing? I'm doing good. Okay.
Hope you have a good day. Bam.

Speaker 16 That was me and Huda in the villa. That's about it.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Who do you think is the strongest couple right now?

Speaker 16 I would say Nick and Sierra right now, but right now it ain't looking too, it ain't looking, I I don't know, it ain't looking too good.

Speaker 16 So I say, um, Ace and Shelly, right, right now, right now, Ace and Shelly. But if Nick and Sierra would, um, what I saw when I was in a Phillip, Nick and Sierra would be the strongest.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I thought they were the strongest too until like, you know, they seem to like hook up. And then all of a sudden, Nick was like,

Speaker 1 hey, I want to date other people.

Speaker 1 Who do you, what, is there a is there a couple or relationship do you think that's most at risk as we we head into CASA more?

Speaker 16 Uh, yeah,

Speaker 16 who

Speaker 16 do you think that's how you were gonna get away with answering oh my god oh my god y'all crazy y'all crazy um

Speaker 1 i say

Speaker 16 not gonna lie um

Speaker 16 alandria and taylor okay i say that relationship um at risk um nicky sierra at risk um Austin Namaya at risk.

Speaker 1 So everyone. Okay.
Shoot.

Speaker 16 Ace and shit.

Speaker 1 Hey. Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 1 I totally agree with you.

Speaker 1 I don't feel like there's any like really established couple that like, I know a lot of people are blaming Ace, but like, I think Nick seemed to like have the hots for what was the bombshell's name that Jeremiah was connecting with?

Speaker 1 Andrina. Andrina.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So like Nick was talking to Andrina and like Andrina was the one bombshell that Nick seemed to be interested in other than Sierra.

Speaker 1 And I feel like I wonder if like, also knowing that Casa Moore is around the corner, do you think Nick was like keeping his relationship very open because he wanted to be able to go into Casa Moore, you know, kind of single and available?

Speaker 16 Um,

Speaker 16 with that, I feel like Nick was, um, I feel like Nick and Sierra relationship, um, it was strong. Like I said, it was strong.
Adrina, um, she's hot. I'm not gonna lie.
Um,

Speaker 16 yeah, yeah, she, she's nice. I would have, I would have said, hey, I would have wanted to get a know it, wanted to get it, get to know her too.
I'm ahead fumbling up my words, but yeah, she is hot.

Speaker 1 She's very hot. I don't blame.

Speaker 16 I don't kind of, I mean, why not? Just try, you know, just see who she is. You know what I'm saying? And, you know, she's a hot girl.
So I understand where Nick was coming from with that.

Speaker 1 So if Alandria leaves the villa single, are you going to shoot your shot and ask for a second chance?

Speaker 16 She didn't open that door for me. Okay.
So I'm not going to open my door. Okay.

Speaker 1 Respectful king. Okay.

Speaker 16 She didn't open her door. So I'm not going to open my door.
I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 9 If you were brought back for Casa Moore, which of the women would you go for?

Speaker 16 I'm not gonna lie, I go for Shelly, Shelly,

Speaker 16 Maya. I go for Amaya.

Speaker 16 Shoot, why not? Sierra? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Why not? Sierra.

Speaker 16 I go for those three.

Speaker 1 Do you think they're better looking in person or on camera?

Speaker 16 They look the same

Speaker 16 on camera.

Speaker 16 So when I was watching it previously,

Speaker 16 checking them out, I said, I wonder, do they look the same in person? And

Speaker 16 they look the same, fairly the same.

Speaker 1 What's next for you, Jalen?

Speaker 16 I guess more content creating. I want to make more

Speaker 16 TikToks. I want to get involved with my supporters more.

Speaker 16 That's what I want to do. And I want to

Speaker 16 travel more. So that's what's next for me.

Speaker 16 Get with my supporters more, travel more. And

Speaker 16 yeah, just make more content and just see where things go.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 12 Is this, Did you make the sweatshirt that you're wearing?

Speaker 16 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Rub read.
Rub read. Is this

Speaker 1 where can people get that hoodie if they want to get it, Jalen?

Speaker 16 Um, so I got this made, but I can get some more, man.

Speaker 1 I got this made. Like, can you send some to us? Yeah, get that

Speaker 1 website going.

Speaker 1 Jalen, get that website going. Tell that merch, bro.

Speaker 16 Yeah, I know. I got this made for me, man.
So I got it made. I thought I was, you know, I'm a truck driver.
I'm handsome. I look good.
I take good care of myself.

Speaker 16 You know, a lot of truck drivers don't do that. And, you know, I just got a discipline that, that nobody has.
So I just felt like I was a rap read, man.

Speaker 16 A lot of people don't have the discipline I have or, or, and truckers don't have the body or the looks I have. So, hey, man, I'm a rap read.

Speaker 1 All right. And are you planning on, do you, are you going to keep on trucking or do you think influencing is going to take you away from that career?

Speaker 16 The way things are going, if I keep getting millions and millions and millions and

Speaker 16 followers and stuff like that, I mean,

Speaker 16 I got to go to content route. I mean, it makes sense.
I say,

Speaker 16 I want to make my supporters,

Speaker 16 like, I want to show my supporters my life, man. And

Speaker 16 I love them. You know what I'm saying? They love me so much, man.
I'm like, shoot, why not? Like, it's just insane. Like, I didn't know that many people love me.

Speaker 16 So I'm like, I got to show them love too. Cause I'm like, if you love me, I love you.
Respect me. I respect you.

Speaker 1 We all love you, Jalen.

Speaker 1 Who would be your dream person to collaborate with? Like, is there a celebrity out there or influencer? Like, who would be your absolutely dream to make content with?

Speaker 16 Y'all put me in a tough spot. Damn, that's a hard question.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 you can say you can say more than one.

Speaker 16 I say, I want to make content with Jeremiah.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 16 In the villa, I want to make content with Jeremiah.

Speaker 16 That would be number one. Somebody in the villa, you know, just have somebody that's number one in the villa.
You know, just do that.

Speaker 16 Number two,

Speaker 16 I would like to make content with, I'll say,

Speaker 16 I like to make content with,

Speaker 16 shoot, Anthony Edwards, why not? You know him?

Speaker 1 The basketball player.

Speaker 16 Yeah, yeah, Anthony Edwards, Pat Man. He's from Georgia.
So I like to make some content with him.

Speaker 1 All right. Shout out to Anthony.
Let's let's.

Speaker 16 Yeah, shout out to Anthony Edwards, Timber Woods, man, number five from Georgia. So shout out to him.
I like to make content with him.

Speaker 9 Are you going to keep watching the season?

Speaker 16 Yeah, I'm kind of curious to see what's.

Speaker 16 What's going to happen? Yeah, so I'm going to try to watch some more of it.

Speaker 16 Since they kicked Jeremiah out, I want to see what's going to happen next. And, you know, with the Casa Amor.
So I know it's going to, the Casa Amor is going to be crazy.

Speaker 16 Them boys are going to wild out. The girls are going to wild out, I feel.
You know, so

Speaker 16 I'm definitely going to keep in touch with that.

Speaker 1 One last question, Jalen, before we let you go. Do you think it's going to be a man or a woman

Speaker 1 who steps out of their relationship during Casa Amor?

Speaker 16 It's going to be both.

Speaker 1 Okay. Okay.

Speaker 16 It's going to be both.

Speaker 16 It's going to get ugly for both.

Speaker 1 So you're predicting just chaos and mess.

Speaker 16 Oh, I know it's going to be chaos and mess. Okay.
Hell yeah.

Speaker 1 All right, Jalen.

Speaker 1 That's a great, great way. I know.
Great place to leave it. Jalen, can't thank you enough for taking the time.
Congratulations on all this exciting success that you're having.

Speaker 1 It's really been a pleasure getting to know you and to see you on Love Island, man. Wishing you nothing but the best going forward.
Excited to see what kind of content you make.

Speaker 1 And I know we're all excited to keep following you. So cheers to you and thank you for your time.

Speaker 16 Yes, sir. Appreciate you, Nick.
Appreciate you, um, you know, just having me on the podcast, man. This is my first podcast I ever did.
So, um, I wish I hope I did good.

Speaker 1 You did great, man. We appreciate you.
Crushed it.

Speaker 16 Appreciate you. All right.
Take care, man.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 What do we all think of Jalen?

Speaker 12 I think he's adorable.

Speaker 1 I'm in love with him. I literally follow favorite follow of the year.
Well, Natalie and Victoria and I, we all talked a little about the past few episodes, but do you guys have any

Speaker 1 things you want to get off your chest?

Speaker 9 Yeah.

Speaker 9 I have one thing I'd like to say. Say it.
I'm really upset with everybody in the villa.

Speaker 1 So are you with is it all ace?

Speaker 9 I think it's, yeah, I think it's ace and I think that Nick and Taylor can't stand up to him. And I think that they all went with whatever he said.

Speaker 9 And he was just, he hasn't liked Jeremiah this entire time

Speaker 9 for, in my opinion, no reason at all. Jeremiah's just been trying to be in with them this whole time and he can't do anything right.

Speaker 9 Like he cuts himself off with huda that's not right even though taylor did the same thing with alandria and nick did the same thing with sierra and ace did the same thing with shelly if we're being real yep and then he cuts himself off from huda but he didn't do it properly so then they're all upset with him for that and now he finally has a connection with someone else and they're mad at him for locking in too quickly with her like what can what is he what's a man to do uh yeah i uh i can i completely agree except that do you think nick is is more outspoken than we realize and just maybe it's just just not being aired as much i don't know i was upset that they didn't really air that conversation to begin with because i would love to know i i understand why how the guys got to jeremiah because like taylor kind of explained based on what america saw bullshit yeah but it was bullshit that they didn't show any of those conversations of how they created how did the girls get to hannah Like, why do the girls choose Hannah?

Speaker 9 Like, Iris doesn't have a real connection. Like, she's going for TJ because he's kind of like...

Speaker 8 Same with Amaya.

Speaker 9 Amaya and like Amaya, I love Amaya and I'm glad that she's staying because I think she's fun. But like her and Austin don't have a relationship.

Speaker 9 So like either one of them should like Hannah has one of the strongest connections in the villa.

Speaker 9 And the only thing that I can think of as the reason why they would send her home is because Huda wants to go for Pepe.

Speaker 3 That's got to be it. But it's like, I thought they didn't fuck with Huda.
Right. And now it turns out that they do.
It's just like kind of confusing.

Speaker 3 And also like Hannah got so fucked over by Huda and then just got sent home, like, she was just trying to be a good friend.

Speaker 9 And what I, what I hate the most is Huda being like, I love you, baby, like, we love you, we love you. And I, I loved that Hannah was just like, no, this is bullshit.

Speaker 9 Like, I'm having a hard time talking to the people who just voted me out. Like, yeah, like, you're gonna pretend to be all like buddy-buddy.

Speaker 9 Like, no, you just voted me out of the villa for no reason because I have a connection. Like, it would be one thing if I didn't have a connection.
And I, okay, I understand, but like, what the fuck?

Speaker 9 Yeah.

Speaker 11 I'm heated.

Speaker 3 I mean, do you think it's because Hannah was a bombshell and Huda wasn't?

Speaker 12 But there's just like no real connections going on. Like I'm not rooting for any of these couples.
And I'm not saying that if Hannah stayed, I would have been rooting for her and Pepe.

Speaker 12 But at the same time, it's like, yeah, we're getting rid of the two people that actually have connections. And then it's just like, I'm not rooting for anybody else in this house.

Speaker 1 That's why I was like, Casa.

Speaker 12 I'm like, Casa is just going to be a mess because everybody's single.

Speaker 9 The only person I was rooting for was Sierra and Nick. And then Nick is just being like, well,

Speaker 9 the day after they have sex, he's like, I want to be open. Like, of course that's going to fuck with her.

Speaker 1 But do we also think that like we want to get jeremiah out because all the guys want to get with um adrian adrenia adrina i think that they wanted jeremiah out because nick is feeling andrena and so is ace and so like all of the guys are feeling her jeremiah is not a follower he did his own thing he's clearly like the best looking guy in the villa and he clearly like basically got dibs like all the women came in immediately interested in jeremiah whether they ended up like staying interested or not like i think all the guys noticed and that's the thing jeremiah was able to like have this intense relationship with Huda and then find a quick connection like the his his ability to move on I think was threatening to the other guys and the fact that he like kind of did his own thing whether it's ace like leading the pact with like Taylor and Nick following or it's just like the three of them all kind of just like kind of talking shit and just kind of being their kind of this little clicky group that kind of like loves to like you know it's us three and everyone else type of thing and act like they're the those three are like the alphas i also also feel like I said this to Victoria and Natalie, I feel like Nick, Ace, and Taylor being quote unquote saved, I feel like they owe their women a thank you because I feel like they got saved based off of being in the relationships with the most popular women in the villa.

Speaker 1 Yes. And you know what I'm saying? And I feel like, I don't feel like Jeremiah not being saved is a, is a reflection of like America not liking him.
I think it was more like a forgotten vote.

Speaker 1 You know what I'm saying? It wasn't like there were no reasons for people to be like, let's save Jeremiah.

Speaker 1 Like Huda, for example, like as many people who like wanted to see her go, there were plenty of people out there who like... There was a movement.
Yeah, there was like a movement for Huda.

Speaker 1 Like, let's protect Huda because knowing that Huda had a lot of like haters, there were a lot of people who responded to her haters, where Jeremiah's more neutral. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 And him being more neutral, like there weren't people going out there like trying to save Jeremiah and he got screwed over from it.

Speaker 3 Yeah, no, no uh shelly alandrea and um sierra are the closest thing to like the new ppg that we have of the season and america loves the three of them and so i their men were saved yeah my my biggest beef of the season is with taylor you're with alandrea and you are not just like whatever you want Yeah, you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 Like the way, and I understand maybe he's a little reserved and like she's a little reserved and they're taking things slow.

Speaker 3 But at this point, once Megan thee stallion comes in and hypes up your girl like that you need to know that you have to do the work you have to put in the goddamn work to keep this woman after that because she is better than you if Taylor gets with someone at CASA

Speaker 3 like he's the biggest idiot in the world Alandria is literally one of the most beautiful women in this world

Speaker 1 he will never date someone hotter I mean I don't think anyone will no

Speaker 9 she's no also do we want to talk about the new CASA cast they're ugly

Speaker 3 I'm just kidding I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm joking I'm joking.

Speaker 1 I'm joking.

Speaker 1 I'm not even gonna kill you.

Speaker 3 I said they're ugly, but I was joking and being me.

Speaker 1 No, I mean, listen, pictures are kind of deceiving, but like.

Speaker 3 They're hotter than me, but

Speaker 1 the Casa women do not seem to be in the same league as the women that are currently in the villa. I'll just say that.

Speaker 9 Should we pull up a picture?

Speaker 1 Like, obviously, everyone on the show is beautiful. And that's another thing, too, like to that point, Mary.

Speaker 1 I, I, like, one of the most outrageous things I find on the internet of many things on the internet, internet, and it's kind of funny, is the amount of like average to ugly looking people judging hot people online.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It's the most

Speaker 1 hilarious thing. Like the way the confidence of these like internet trolls talking about how these people are ugly when then you go on their page and you're like, you're, you're judging someone.

Speaker 1 That being said, it just seems like the women who are currently in the villa are just dynamite and they're bringing in people for CASA who just don't, at least based off the pictures, don't appear to be in the same league.

Speaker 3 I mean, that does kind of reflect real life, though, but, and of the most beautiful women you've ever seen in your life dating men, and you're like, what? That, that guy?

Speaker 3 But Love Island is supposed to be an escape from all of that. Love Island is supposed to be an island of people that are so, so, so, so, so beautiful that they look like they were made in a lab.

Speaker 1 Only reason why I point out that out, because I just, I, and I, that's why I asked Jalen, you know what I'd really love because you know how traditionally it's like in CASA, it's usually the guys like stepping out of the relationship and usually like the women are just like sitting around wondering what their men are doing.

Speaker 1 Like that's usually how it goes. I would really love to see like Sierra swerve or on like or Shelly.

Speaker 1 Oh my God, that would be amazing if Shelly like found a better connection or just a connection that made her like I want her. I want it.
I want to see Ace rattled. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 Like the thing that bothers me about Ace so much is that he's like, he's moving too confidently and he's moving like he's never worried about like it's just it seems like he knows he's not going home you know and there's I want to see him rattled I want to see him you know for all the hate that huda's getting like she just got emotionally invested too soon you can criticize you know how she got there or whatever but like when you're activated and you're emotionally triggered like you know, it's not easy to be at your best.

Speaker 1 So I want to see, you know, some of these guys get rattled. I want to see them scared.
I want them emotionally worried about like losing their women. And I want to see how they react.

Speaker 1 And it would be great to see some of these women like fall, have connections with some of these CASA guys.

Speaker 9 I mean, I agree.

Speaker 11 I think that that would be.

Speaker 9 I think that Ace is way too comfortable. I think that him getting voted, like him being safe last night is only going to make him feel even more safe and more confident.

Speaker 12 And I think that I think he's going to run amok in Casa Amore. Like, I think he's like, finally, I get off my leash.
It's a whole group of whole new girls. And now I don't have to pretend.

Speaker 12 Or, like, I'm, you know what I mean? Like, I just, I feel like he's going to, he's going to get himself in trouble because of Casa Amore.

Speaker 3 He's giving the love island Napoleon.

Speaker 1 It really felt like he wants everybody to back him up. Honestly, like, last night's vote was like giving the first time I saw Ace lived up to his height.

Speaker 1 That's nice.

Speaker 1 I've never heard that before. Yeah.
He just like, he just, it just, it just reeked of jealousy.

Speaker 12 Yeah. And he also like has drooled over every new bombshell that's walked in.
And every bombshell, exactly as you said, has gone for Jeremiah. So like, who do we hate?

Speaker 9 Jeremiah. Well, I have a theory too since the beginning that Ace was into Huda.
I don't think he is anymore.

Speaker 9 I think that he was turned off by her, but I think initially he was into Huda and Jeremiah had her.

Speaker 1 You know what they always say? The opposite of love is not hate. I feel like he, you know, the anger or hostility that Ace showed towards Huda is like he, he still seems invested in Huda.

Speaker 1 You know what I'm saying? Like,

Speaker 9 he seems too invested in everyone, but his own like situation. Like he's so invested.

Speaker 9 You know, those, those people at Casa who are so like invested in everybody else's relationships and they're pushing the other guys to like get with girls and go outside of their couples.

Speaker 9 That actually is my prediction for Ace at CASA. I actually think that he's going to stay loyal to Shelly, and I think that he's going to be the one egging on all the other guys.

Speaker 9 He's convincing them to go outside of their couple.

Speaker 3 But then also at the same time, like put that energy into making, like, gassing Shelly up. Because again, another woman that is so, so, so, so, so, so, so beautiful.

Speaker 12 Funny how the dates stopped happening. These like pop-up dates stop happening the second he knows he has her.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 12 But it's like while I'm trying to steal him from Austin or steal her from Austin, that's when I'm like, here's pop-up yoga in the middle of the, of the villa, but it's a surprise.

Speaker 12 But like, now it's like, where are these days?

Speaker 1 Pancakes and ping-pong. Yeah.
Yeah. Ugh.

Speaker 12 The way I'd be so mad if somebody offered that to me. Not, that would never happen on me.
Can I sit down and eat?

Speaker 1 I can't believe we have Casa starting tonight. I'm so excited.
I'm so excited.

Speaker 1 Which, by the time they're listening to this episode, will be an episode into Casa.

Speaker 9 And how long does that usually last?

Speaker 1 Let us know if we're wrong.

Speaker 12 They're in Casa for a week. I don't know how many episodes that equals, but at least right.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 9 But I'm honestly not like, I'm not that invested in any of these couples enough to like be rooting for any of them to stay loyal.

Speaker 3 I do think Nick and Sierra are cute, but I was bummed by the way Nick, after they had sex, the way he just kind of like.

Speaker 1 You know what's annoying is like, I think the most, the cutest couple that actually looks like the best match outside of the villa is actually Ace and Shelly.

Speaker 1 There is like a natural chemistry that they have. It's just that Shelly seems almost like kind of Shelly's just almost too chill.
She's like.

Speaker 9 She's on vacation.

Speaker 1 Yeah, she's just kind of like there chilling. She seems wonderful, but they do, when they're together, there's like this, this palpable chemistry that I feel like you feel.

Speaker 1 And then like Ace seems almost like too good at reality TV. You know, it just seems like I'm not getting this authentic reaction.
It just seems like he's working with producers too much. I don't know.

Speaker 1 And then like them not showing how they came to that decision just feels like they were protecting people in a way that I didn't want them to be protected.

Speaker 1 if you're going to make the cast vote someone off and like get together and like not do like these independent like just get behind people's back i want to see those conversations that was such a major storyline from last season and the fact that they just didn't even give us any of that like not even 15 seconds not even like a little bit of cliff notes about like how they came to that decision none of that was just kind of annoying yeah they even had like a whole movie night about that specific they also did it at the reunion member and we were like why are are we spending 15 minutes on this footage we don't care about anymore?

Speaker 12 Yeah, that was wild.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and then we get we didn't get any of that. You know, it's fascinating, like, all the couples who have had sex are either like on the rocks or broken up.

Speaker 3 Yeah, mommy's little meatball, Hannah and Pepe

Speaker 1 broken up. Huda, Jeremiah, broken up, and Nick and Sierra.
Nick's like, I want to get ready for Casa, even though it was the best 25 seconds of my life.

Speaker 12 But I'm also attracted to the new Bob Shelf.

Speaker 1 25 seconds. So him omitting Rais Volta.

Speaker 3 It was 25 seconds.

Speaker 1 Well, you did say 30 seconds last night. Okay.
Okay. Well, I thought she handled herself pretty well.

Speaker 1 I mean, she came out and she made it very clear where she was, that she made it clear that she was like really excited where this was going and she's not really looking around.

Speaker 1 And then she just got this bullshit answer response from Nick. Like, is she supposed to like yell at him? It was, you know, you, it's natural for them to like.

Speaker 9 No, I thought she handled herself really well. And then Nick was kind of just like, well, if she's going to like act that way, then I'm going to.

Speaker 3 And I was like, what do you mean?

Speaker 9 Act like mature? Like, what are you talking about? Like, so that turned me off. I really wanted him to like recognize her pulling away because of his actions and then try to get her back.

Speaker 9 But him pulling away further just shows me that he's not really into her and he's ready for CASA.

Speaker 1 They all are.

Speaker 1 And he'll be watching. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, that'll wrap up our Love Highland discussion. More to come this week.
Certainly as we enter into CASA.

Speaker 1 Let's get into a little bit of household headlines and then we'll talk some Miami and Atlanta and then send you on your way.

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Speaker 1 All right, finally time for some household headlines. Then we'll get into a little Atlanta in Miami.
Did you guys see Tom Sandoval's America's Got Talent performance?

Speaker 1 Yes, yes, I did.

Speaker 12 He took some vocal lessons.

Speaker 1 Are you guys haters?

Speaker 1 Are you guys happy for Tom?

Speaker 9 I think he picked a very difficult song and he did a good job with with it. I think that that man does not have stage fright, that's for sure.

Speaker 1 I mean, the overall takeaway, to be clear, especially on America's Got Talent, was like very positive.

Speaker 1 Like it was that classic Simon Cowell looking like, what the fuck am I watching for the first few seconds? It was giving like, oh, this is going to be an absolute disaster.

Speaker 1 But then there was like the flip. where like, you know, the judges got involved, the audience got involved.
It was like a very like uplifting, positive performance.

Speaker 1 Like that was the takeaway from the show. I'm just curious if like what you guys think, specifically Sierra being, you know, more like anti-Tom Sandoval.

Speaker 12 I'm not anti-Tom Zandova. I just am not a fan, but I'm like, I think he did a good job.

Speaker 15 We realized that America's Got Talent is like fake, right? Like the audience reactions don't actually happen when like the talent are out. A lot of the judges' reactions are taped at different times.

Speaker 1 Oh, I didn't know that.

Speaker 15 Like if you've ever been to America, if you've been to an America's Got Talent Taping, it's like the talent comes out, but like the reactions of the audience will be on like different days.

Speaker 15 They'll make you react in certain ways. Like it's all staged.

Speaker 3 My biggest question is, does Simon Cowell know about Tom Sandoval?

Speaker 1 Oh, the case. He said he didn't care.
Yeah, they were like talking about him. I think he would give a shit one way or the other.
No.

Speaker 3 Well, I just, no, I mean, like, do you think he was like briefed on it or do you think he like knew?

Speaker 1 Well, I think this all came together because of Howie Mendel. I think Howie Mendel has some kind of relationship with Tom.
He was the first one to interview Tom post-Scandoval.

Speaker 1 Like, I think there's a bit of like Howie Mendel has a soft spot for Tom, Howie being one of the judges.

Speaker 1 So I think that Howie, I'm guessing Howie facilitated getting Tom on the show in the first place. So I don't know.

Speaker 1 Maybe he gave, I don't know what Howie and Simon's relationship is, but maybe he gave him a little, you know. Fair enough.

Speaker 3 It is funny, just the comparison of Tom Sandoval on America's Got Talent and then Ariana Maddox hanging out with Megan the Stallion on Love Island.

Speaker 3 You know, it's just like a little funny juxtaposition.

Speaker 1 I mean, yeah, they're, I mean, like, yeah, Ariana's crushing life.

Speaker 1 I just like, this was a guy who did something terrible, certainly, but was something that like, I don't know, 60% of the people dating do. And he was,

Speaker 1 I mean, like, his life was destroyed. Like, he was literally the most hated man and talked about man for years.
And like, he's working hard and trying to make something of this experience.

Speaker 1 And he's going on like knowing that people want him to fail and he still goes on out there and like you know does his best.

Speaker 9 I feel like he got like you know how there's like an egot like there's a club where like very few people have received an Emmy a Grammy etc etc Tony. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 9 I feel like there should be a competition similar where it's like how many reality TV shows can you be on?

Speaker 3 The reality TV egot.

Speaker 1 Well, I don't think it counts if it's all under Bravo. But America's Got Talent, isn't You know, Tom's been on

Speaker 1 America's Got Talent. He's been on Mass Singer.

Speaker 1 He's been on Special Forces. He was on Mass Singer.
Nick is right, though.

Speaker 15 This is all under the NBC portfolio. So it's like

Speaker 1 Special Forces is not. That's Fox.

Speaker 1 America's Got Talent.

Speaker 1 And Mass Singer is Fox, too.

Speaker 15 So a little diversity. Passive villains is E, right?

Speaker 1 Listen, again, like... Ariana is doing things well beyond what Tom Sandoval is doing.
And she has...

Speaker 1 But like,

Speaker 1 compared to some of the men on Bravo, at least Tom is trying to, like, seems like, I don't know, last time we talked to him on the show, he's in individual and couples therapy.

Speaker 1 He seems like he's actually trying to make positive changes in his life. And he has coming from a situation where, I mean, like, whether, whether, whatever you think of him, it was really dark.

Speaker 1 And he got so much fucking hate. He's come out of this and he's making, he's doing positive things.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 I think that I feel like, I don't know why people have a hard time giving that credit to that and why it's they still want to be haters.

Speaker 15 I mean, to his credit, and this is my own speculation, that a lot of these like competition shows have been paying talent to come on just to like spark internet chatter.

Speaker 15 So, like, to me, I think he's just like, he's not there to compete. He's there to like

Speaker 1 be in and for people to

Speaker 1 still went on and performed knowing that people would want to make fun of him. And he did well.
Well, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 So, just I think he's fine with people making fun of him.

Speaker 15 What I'm saying to his credit is that they may have paid him or at least wanted him to be there.

Speaker 9 there yeah but someone does i am very um curious to know though if he makes it past the round because while i do think he did a good job i don't think that's the point of him being there i do think he did a good job i do not think that he did a good enough job to make it to the next round you know because america's got talent is like there are people coming on with the craziest talents I've ever seen in my life.

Speaker 9 And so the people who are coming on and who are singing like better be really.

Speaker 1 I feel like this is definitely a stunt cast for sure.

Speaker 1 And it got ratings, and it got, like, people talking about the show. I mean, I've never seen America's Got Talent, so

Speaker 1 first time I watched it.

Speaker 9 It's a fun watch.

Speaker 3 Do you think it's more of a stunt than Selena Gomez and Haley Bieber unfollowing each other on Instagram?

Speaker 1 I'm just

Speaker 1 blown away about the level of petty. Like, you can't convince me that either of these two people want to be happy.

Speaker 15 I don't think it's petty.

Speaker 1 It's so unnecessary.

Speaker 15 I think it was more petty to be following her.

Speaker 1 Well, I don't know who started it, but I have to keep that going.

Speaker 1 My understanding of this whole saga, which has been going on for years, is they both had rabid fan bases, specifically in Selena Gomez's fan base, is, you know, those music fan bases are another level of toxicity and online bullying.

Speaker 1 And it seemed like there was a following to be like, hey, let's listen, let's not do this. And for, I don't know who started it.

Speaker 1 I don't know what's going on, but the fact that they unfollowed each other just invites. people online to do outrageously horrible things.

Speaker 1 And like, why is it bothering either of them that they're following each other?

Speaker 15 I don't think it's bothering any of them. I think we're reading into it.
Cause I mean, even if we look at it, like, when Haley signed her road deal to Sephora, who was liking the post? Selena Gomez.

Speaker 15 So I'm like, just because she unfollowed her, and we don't know that anyone's really.

Speaker 1 So why unfollow it? Like, it's just, I mean, it's not like a Taylor Swift. Well, I think it's just years of us pressuring them to follow nobody.

Speaker 1 There was a point when Taylor Swift was following people and then she decided to follow nobody. And I know that she reached out to friends and was like, hey, FYI, like, I'm just unfollowing everyone.

Speaker 1 This is not a personal thing. But, like, they're both following hundreds of people.

Speaker 15 I don't think we know she didn't reach out to people.

Speaker 15 I think, like, that was a relationship that people pressured them to keep following each other when there was no relationship really to begin with.

Speaker 9 You know what? I always wonder is the people who discover these things. Like, who's going onto Haley Bieber's Instagram and being like, Hey, I wonder if she's still following?

Speaker 1 Let me tell you what.

Speaker 1 What I'm saying is, though, that who they both know that their fan bases track every little thing they do and make a big deal about every little thing they do so for them to play into it seems crazy to me i don't know that it's playing into it or they're just like let's just cut the ties now so we don't have to keep playing into it later yeah

Speaker 15 like why Because before it was, oh, Selena follows Haley, she didn't like this post or she accidentally liked this post. So it's like, why

Speaker 1 don't you every once in a while I'll be on my account problem and like, I don't know why I follow this person anymore. I don't know.
I don't engage with them. It's just like, there's an unfollow.

Speaker 1 But if there's people like that are in public figure, I don't go out of my way to unfollow people, even if I don't fuck with them. You know, like it's,

Speaker 1 I just don't care, especially when there's a mute button.

Speaker 1 It used to be like, oh, if you didn't want to see their content, you can just mute anyone.

Speaker 3 I think if I ever get famous, I'm just going to delete social media. Yeah.
I just don't want to deal with that. I would rather know peace.

Speaker 15 I mean, I just see Selena Gomez in the way that she treats her like. relationship with social media and she treats it as if she's a normal person.

Speaker 15 Like she doesn't care about being the celebrity that has a social media. She's always like, don't send me tips.
Don't follow me. Don't send me this.
Like, I'll deactivate if I want to. I won't post.

Speaker 15 I'll turn off my likes.

Speaker 3 Like, she loves to deactivate for a day, announce a deactivation for a day.

Speaker 1 Which I think is really clear.

Speaker 15 But she doesn't care about like the PR of who she's following. Like, she's never been that person.
Did you guys see Teresa Judice being interviewed and like leaving the interview?

Speaker 1 I did. Yes.

Speaker 15 So embarrassing for the news anchor, Nick.

Speaker 1 Did you see this? I did.

Speaker 1 But like, you guys told me that her, I mean, given that if this was a question about why she went to prison i think it's a crazy question like she's already served her time she's paid her dues but like you're telling isn't there a speculation that she's once again not paying her taxes I mean, I don't think it's speculation.

Speaker 15 It's facts. It's facts.
Well, I think it's like, well, no, it's Louis.

Speaker 15 So like, there's the people she's associated with, there have been like lee ins or lawsuits filed, and none of these have been concluded or anything.

Speaker 1 Well, I mean, she went to prison because she was married to someone not paying their taxes.

Speaker 12 And when you're married, you file joint, like it's, you're kind of it's kind of one in the same not a tax expert so you know definitely could be wrong but like if if it's her husband not paying her taxes that's not much better than her not paying her taxes well in march of this year people reported that teresa and louis were each issued tax liens totaling three million with teresa owing three hundred and three thousand eight hundred and eighty nine dollars and louis owing nearly two point six million louis also has an open case for 163 523 dollars from december 2024.

Speaker 15 I just think it's an out-of-pocket question. And something I've learned from you, Nick, is that you have to respect the guests while they're sitting on the couch.

Speaker 15 So when I'm like, when he ripped that question out of nowhere, and I would have left too.

Speaker 1 And then after that, it blows my mind why they still will put their talent on these quote-unquote news shows who like will pretend they have to be act like journalists and they have to ask the tough questions, so to speak.

Speaker 9 It also felt like this guy had no idea who she was and he was just like reading a question that was there and he he was like, Wait, what?

Speaker 1 Did I say something wrong?

Speaker 1 He was laughing about it.

Speaker 15 He was like, Oh, she didn't like that question.

Speaker 1 She didn't like that question.

Speaker 12 It's like, that's not what she came on to talk about. I like Teresa.

Speaker 15 I respect it. I would have ended it too.
And I think it's funny that she didn't know how to end it when she was there for two seconds longer.

Speaker 3 Hey, if her not paying your taxes made it so that the next-gen cash could come and make pizza and hang out on a trampoline, are we really that mad?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, I don't give a fuck, but I just think that's the one thing you shouldn't be doing is like not paying your taxes because like you're going to come.

Speaker 15 there's also just a way to say it, like, the way he phrased the question was just like,

Speaker 15 when she was like, what, family?

Speaker 1 Well, that's the thing. It's just like when they, you know, when Bravo puts their talent on these types of like local news, they, they all act like they're better than these reality TV stars.

Speaker 1 Like, the local news, like, people on local news act like they're like fucking rock stars. I mean, 20 years ago, they used to be somebodies.

Speaker 1 Now they're nobodies because no one watches local news anymore. But, like, they still have like the ego of like local legends.

Speaker 15 You're saying the news anchors.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 I think there's something sweet about local news anchors.

Speaker 15 I agree with Nick actually though.

Speaker 1 I mean I'm sure I'm not the same,

Speaker 1 but there is a lot of like Wichita Kansas, Jack Johnson. You know, like there's a lot of legends.

Speaker 3 There's like a camp aspect to it that like always makes me laugh.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but a lot of them are assholes and they're like they're like the guy who like was cool in high school who never left and like still thinks he's the rock star by going to the bars.

Speaker 1 Like that's the attitude a lot of like local news anchors bring to their community. Not all.

Speaker 3 I agree and I think it's very funny because what you're seeing in like in like bigger news anchors is the same thing, but just even more inflated.

Speaker 3 So it's funny to see it on a smaller scale, but still like inflated. And it just really.

Speaker 15 I also, I imagine that this didn't come from Bravo because they're not on air. And I feel like she probably just like...

Speaker 15 one of her reps is like, oh, hop on this, or she wanted to like say something and then homeboy hit her with the question.

Speaker 1 All right, well, let's start with Atlanta. I how do you if you're still married, do you have to pay child? I'm a little confused.
That's my big takeaway or question from this episode of Atlanta.

Speaker 1 I don't, I'm certainly not a legal expert in the court of like family court, but I do not understand how if you're married, how you owe child support.

Speaker 1 Second follow-up question is, with all the stories out there that you hear about like deadbeat, usually fathers not paying child support, how

Speaker 1 is it like, is Georgia state law like that hardcore where they're actually throwing people in jail for not paying it?

Speaker 1 Because you hear a lot more stories about like just people just not paying what they owe. I was just kind of very confused by all that.

Speaker 12 I mean, I feel like they've been going through this legal process for like three years now. So I think that that's part of it.
I think they are separated, but not fully divorced.

Speaker 12 So maybe that's why he's a because them being separated, maybe that's where the child support comes into it.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Well, I mean, they had the divorce hearing, but it didn't get finalized and there had to be a continuance.

Speaker 12 Yeah, and it says that she they split in 2022.

Speaker 1 So can someone do a quick Google search?

Speaker 12 Child support is typically determined using an income share approach where both parents' incomes are considered to calculate the support amount.

Speaker 12 The non-custodial parent who has less than 50% of the parenting time usually pays support to the custodial parent.

Speaker 12 Georgia law also outlines procedures for reviewing and modifying child support orders as well as enforcing them through various legal means.

Speaker 15 And I'm also reading, so this is an article from last year when the original lawsuits were going on.

Speaker 15 And basically it says that Kelly said despite his previous jail stint, her ex failed to pay his support for February, March, April, May, and June.

Speaker 15 And quotes, by his foregoing persistent and habitual refusal to abide and respect this court's order and other misconduct, Chivalo has persistently shown his utter disdain, disrespect, and disregard to authority of this court.

Speaker 15 The court then orders Chivalo to be thrown in jail for contempt on January 12th. Kelly's lawyer said Chivalo must be held in contempt and incarcerated until he purges himself of his contempt.

Speaker 15 She also demanded the legal fees. Presiding over divorce granted Kelly's motion and ordered Chivalo to be jailed until he paid the child support.

Speaker 12 And then it does say criminal penalties. Failure to pay child support can lead to misdemeanor or felony charges, especially if a parent is attempting to avoid payment or has a history of non-payment.

Speaker 1 So they do take that very seriously in Georgia. The more you're good.
I mean, yeah. I don't know.

Speaker 3 The Kelly versus Brit stuff

Speaker 3 was really what threw me for a loop.

Speaker 15 The episode in general, the back and forth there.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 I honestly forgot about the divorce.

Speaker 1 Pill pop and roommate.

Speaker 15 I was like, oh, my.

Speaker 12 Michael Jackson special?

Speaker 3 Yeah, Phaedra. I think Phaedra may have one of my favorite lines ever, which is the pill she offered me was just a little Advil PM.
I didn't get the ProPoFall Michael Jackson special.

Speaker 15 Phaedra and her one-liners.

Speaker 1 Thank you for that.

Speaker 15 Britt just takes the low road.

Speaker 1 I'm sorry.

Speaker 15 Like her bringing up abortions, that wasn't even a dig. That was just like, huh?

Speaker 12 And they even said somebody did say to her, like, where it's just like, and you want the support with the Kenya stuff. And then it's like, this is how you're behaving.

Speaker 12 And it's like, there's some things, I think Cynthia said it. There's some things that you do not need to pull out of your arsenal in an argument.
And that was just disgusting.

Speaker 1 She just,

Speaker 3 she, I forget who said it on Atlanta, but it was like when someone, when they go low, she just goes lower. Yeah.
And I was like, oh my.

Speaker 12 God.

Speaker 12 You know? And this is a second event that you're like doing this.

Speaker 3 I actively gasped. Yes.

Speaker 12 And she's been your friend. She's been supporting you this entire time.
Only one to have your back defending you in rooms you're not in.

Speaker 3 And over glam.

Speaker 1 Over glam.

Speaker 3 Over glam.

Speaker 15 Like, you kind of are trying to what up Kelly, and that's why Kelly was like, never mind.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 12 I don't know. The whole thing was wild.

Speaker 3 I mean, Cynthia said on Watch What Happens Live afterwards, and I think she said it best, which was just like, it's never a good idea to share glam.

Speaker 3 No, no. I don't think it ever ends well.
Don't do not share glam. If you're going on housewives, take it.

Speaker 1 And the whole Angela of it all.

Speaker 12 The guy that's like paid to show up at this event.

Speaker 12 your husband has got also like Charles Oakley Charles Oakley

Speaker 12 I love that man the most oblivious man like he knew he's just making his chicken and waffles minding his own business he's like well you walk around in the kitchen yeah no he for sure knew what the person said he was just like i'm not paying a business but what did he say he's like i own a restaurant and if you want to know what your husband's been getting up to then you should call me and then make

Speaker 15 he was just weird because then he went up to angela was like i want to have a word with you And she's like, do I know you? And he's like, no.

Speaker 1 Well, then, no.

Speaker 3 Cheers if your name is Angela and your husband is cheating on you. Like, what?

Speaker 3 And then for Angela to be like, her and Charles had people pay, had someone pay the guy a visit.

Speaker 1 When they had a visit.

Speaker 12 She was like, it's not the mom.

Speaker 1 Are you a part of this? There are people who care about us.

Speaker 3 No, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 She didn't pay.

Speaker 15 the family. She just had these people that care about us and they went to go visit.

Speaker 12 Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's giving kisses the ring.

Speaker 1 You have to clarify.

Speaker 15 And then the guy was paid by someone to confront her.

Speaker 1 That's what it was.

Speaker 3 yes so i want to know who this person is i literally started googling but then got too locked in on the episode again i was like nba players that has beef with charles oakley i'm like who could it be yeah yeah i mean a lot of people had beef with charles oakley back in the day exactly michael jordan literally wrote the foreword to his book which i found out on watch what happens live and i'm like who's coming after this guy Charles Oakley and Charles Barkley don't like each other.

Speaker 3 Was it Barkley?

Speaker 12 No, I'm just kidding. I'm just

Speaker 12 googling.

Speaker 1 I was like, who hates Charles Oakley?

Speaker 12 And the AI AI is like, it could have been. Just so you know.

Speaker 1 I don't know. The owner of the Knicks hates Charles Oakley.
Hey, it could have been the owner of the Knicks.

Speaker 3 Like, that's what I'm saying. And the amount that basketball is intertwined with housewives, we don't know.
I love Atlanta.

Speaker 1 I love Atlanta. I love Atlanta.

Speaker 15 And like, Drew being locked outside of the event and like sharing food with the security guard.

Speaker 1 Not even sharing.

Speaker 12 Like, literally taking this man's lunch.

Speaker 1 She took his food. I was like, oh, girl.
She was 15 minutes late.

Speaker 3 I mean, Phaedra did say, like, do not come late.

Speaker 12 But and also the shame walk when they walked in and she's like, for the late people, come in.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 12 And we're the show is over.

Speaker 15 I tell Mary, you're either 10 minutes early or you're 30 minutes late.

Speaker 1 And he was 30 minutes late. Yeah.

Speaker 3 I do relate to Drew in that way.

Speaker 12 She was just happy we're not talking about her. Like, yeah.
She was like, I'll be locked out.

Speaker 1 She was like, you know what?

Speaker 3 I would love to not be in this business.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. God.

Speaker 3 I'm so excited for the finale.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 And for, I mean, it's so annoying that Britt's not at the reunion.

Speaker 1 How many more episodes are there?

Speaker 15 There's one more and then there's reunion, but we don't know how many parts yet.

Speaker 12 Oh, it's giving it three.

Speaker 1 It's got to be three.

Speaker 15 Oh, I want.

Speaker 3 I like this season. But also, I'm so mad that Britt's not going to be.

Speaker 15 Like, I mean... You're mad that she's not going to be there for what reason?

Speaker 3 To get.

Speaker 1 Crucified by the cast?

Speaker 3 I mean, yeah. Okay.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 I kind of wanted to see, I wanted to see them say what needed to be said about it.

Speaker 15 Well, it's tough to have a whole season, not a whole season, but a big chunk of the season being about one person's mess and then have that person not show up like kind of like what's the point of a reunion yeah like kelly needs to come with some lines for britt and the shamia portion of it all too because i'm like brit just threw shamia under the bus saying that she was showing text messages from portia but like is that even true who knows it's like you're just trying to destroy a friendship that like just got rebuilt also knowing what like portia is going through in the moment i will say phaedra did handle that well when she's like we're gonna start the the show and everybody's like well what about portia and she's like she's not going to be here.

Speaker 15 I'll handle it after. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 15 That was really. She's like, no drama.

Speaker 1 Yeah. We'll talk about it later.
Segway into Miami. I was shocked to agree with Larsa.
What?

Speaker 1 Huh? You got to say more. Explain.
Explain. If you are going to invoke your dying parents' name as a way to garner sympathy, then you probably should like be by their side.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 It's just kind of like, why aren't you with them? Like, why are are you here?

Speaker 1 Like, it kind of like, you know, I get there's a lot of people out there who don't have relationships with parents and, you know, they're not very close.

Speaker 1 But like, I don't know, like, if you're going to bring it up, be like, well, my, my dad's dying and you're supposed to treat me differently or give me sympathy as a result of a dying parent, then like, shouldn't you be by their side?

Speaker 1 That was my thought. And then like, Larsa said it out loud, what I was thinking.

Speaker 12 Well, I'm like, I agree with her son where I'm just kind of like, that's her business.

Speaker 12 And if she has like a paid thing that she's going to, like, I'm like, I don't know if that's the choice that she wants to make.

Speaker 1 Brought it up.

Speaker 12 Well, because she was saying she was going through a lot and like

Speaker 12 and it was like listing off to Larsa, like, what, like, where she's at.

Speaker 15 I don't think she was using it as a like Trump card. Yeah, that's how I saw it.

Speaker 3 She's just being vulnerable.

Speaker 15 I thought Larsa was more out of pocket for like every time that she walked up, she was pulling out the selfie light and intentionally trying to like honestly.

Speaker 12 And I went back and I'm watching season one, too, where I'm just kind of like, Larsa has been petty forever. And the marisol, Alexia, and Larsa of it all.

Speaker 12 It's like like larsa can do no wrong she's been attacking lisa for the last two seasons over like not being a good enough friend or not being loyal where i'm like think god fabulous wanted to know but i'm like even this conversation like you're from new york see loyalty means a lot like where it's like no matter what it's like always going to find a way to make sure that everyone sides with her and i'm like she never wants to hear anybody out she always does talk down to people and it's just like and expects everybody to like kneel at her feet because she was friends with the Kardashian.

Speaker 12 Like, I just, I think she's so mean to her friends and people, nobody checks Larsa.

Speaker 15 I will say, in Larsa's defense, when they were in the Sprinter van and Lisa, or not a Sprinter van, but the car, and Lisa was like apologizing to her son, be like, sorry, your mother's not being a good example.

Speaker 15 I was like,

Speaker 1 that's a little, yeah, we didn't have to go there, but it's a little too much, but that is a bit much.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 12 But her son was like, just leave me the fuck out of this.

Speaker 1 Literally.

Speaker 15 Well, and I'm just like, Miami's going in on insinuating at least. Yeah.

Speaker 15 Intimating.

Speaker 1 The AC, intimating.

Speaker 15 There is AC being used in that Lisa's man, Jodi, Jody is his name, right? Jodi is partaking or not there.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 15 I didn't think we were going to dive that deep into it.

Speaker 3 And I may agree.

Speaker 15 Well, and I love Lisa, but I was like, the AC, and they spoke out and said it was all just like...

Speaker 12 I'm just like, but I'm getting that like Lisa was married to Lenny, a successful plastic surgeon who was throwing like these

Speaker 12 Star Island parties.

Speaker 12 And I'm like, are we, and we're, are we pretending like we're not in Miami?

Speaker 1 Exactly.

Speaker 15 Well, the cut, the cut to them showing the picture of him at the event.

Speaker 1 I was gagged.

Speaker 15 I was like, wait, what are we talking about, first of all?

Speaker 12 No, we're going to make this the whole storyline for Lisa, which is unfortunate.

Speaker 12 Because I'm like, if he's supporting her. But then at the same time, that whole fashion show thing where it's like, she's stuck in this weird conversation doing her job with Larsa.

Speaker 12 And then it's like for him to like text being like, I'm feeling left alone. So I just disappear.
Like that to me, giant red flag. I'm like, you're at her event.
She's working. There's cameras here.

Speaker 12 Like, let's not pull this shit tonight.

Speaker 1 She also looked hot.

Speaker 11 She did.

Speaker 1 I thought she killed it. And then who is the guy that they were both talking to and then they both fabulous fabulous

Speaker 12 and they both were like he took my side yeah it's like okay nobody was listening to the conversation i do love my enemy like just don't be disrespectful and then like we won't talk we won't hang out with your ex but nobody was hanging out with your ex and i also think that that's kind of crazy where it's like even fabulous agreed that i'm like the boyfriend might be hanging out with your ex-boyfriend but like Lisa says make it made it a point to not so i'm like she can't control what he does and for her to be like yeah well if you put his dick in your mouth you should be controlling him and i'm like larissa nobody's saying that.

Speaker 15 There's multiple people in the room using AC from what we've seen.

Speaker 12 It's Miami.

Speaker 3 It's Miami.

Speaker 3 That's literally the town that Scarface.

Speaker 1 The cartels.

Speaker 12 Like, what are we talking about here? Like, yacht part, 1970 is like, it was like the coke drop spot.

Speaker 3 It's the foundation of the city.

Speaker 1 That's why I don't go. It is the culture.

Speaker 3 It is the culture of the city.

Speaker 1 That's why I'm scared of Miami. Okay.
I want to go to Miami. There's too many people.

Speaker 3 You don't need to be scared. Miami's a beautiful place.

Speaker 1 It is very difficult to tell people's ages on Miami because they're all hot. Oh, sure.
Alexia is so hot. Alexia.
Every time I see her, I'm like, oh, she's so hot.

Speaker 12 Oh, my God, Alexia and Todd.

Speaker 12 The way that she thinks that

Speaker 12 leasing is fake owning is so funny. Is that what it was? Because her husband was super, her last husband was super successful, super rich.

Speaker 12 So it's like always buying her cars and buying, but like they owned everything.

Speaker 1 Todd's also rich, right?

Speaker 1 I mean, in a way, leasing is fake owning.

Speaker 12 It is, but it's funny how she said renting.

Speaker 1 She said,

Speaker 1 rent your apartment. I was like, oh, that's what leasing is.

Speaker 12 And he's in legal trouble.

Speaker 3 It's a long-term rental.

Speaker 12 The point being is that for her, she kept calling it this like fake thing because she's so used to everything being owned.

Speaker 1 What did she say?

Speaker 12 But it's like instead of just calling it leasing or renting, she's like, you fake owning, fake-owned car, fake bot.

Speaker 1 She said rent.

Speaker 15 I think she was saying renting because in my head, I was like, oh, she's like, either way.

Speaker 1 It's just another name for the same thing.

Speaker 9 Yeah, leasing and renting are the same, no?

Speaker 1 And fake owning. Leasing the leasier, no? In a way.

Speaker 1 Was it Alexia that was like narc is a narcissist oh oh yes okay wait nick define narc well i would say it's someone who like tattletales like goes behind your back you know uh right

Speaker 1 yeah yeah it's not a narcissist and she goes a narc a narc and then it's a narcissist and i was like that's the way people on reality tv accuse other people of being narcissists is hilarious yeah well that's the beauty of the show the best is that she has this dinner for her friend and she's like these two did not get an invite because i don't want anybody making this about them.

Speaker 12 This is all about Johnny or whoever. And then it was all about Alexia.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I loved it, though.

Speaker 3 I could, I could watch hours of Alexia.

Speaker 15 I love that Julia was there.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I know. I love Julia.

Speaker 3 I'm everywhere. I'm so Julia.

Speaker 1 Was Gurdy at that dinner? No, Gurdy wasn't invited.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 12 And she's got the issue. And the Gurdy, Julia.
I'm a little just like, I feel like we're kind of forcing a storyline here.

Speaker 15 You know, I did think about that because they've always been really good friends. And like, hearing what they say happened, I'm like, is it that big of a deal?

Speaker 15 which maybe it was but i almost kind of feel like where it's it nobody has a right to be upset about this because it's a adoption announcement right it's just and then also gurdy was also going through a lot so i'm like is it a tip for tat or is it just like let's just secure another season for each other to like

Speaker 12 and it's giving but i'm also like confused as to why julia wouldn't just call gurdy after the call and hear like hey i'm adopting kids like where it's like to me that's a weird way to go about it yeah being like you'll find out when it comes out and then being mad that she just said congrats but it's like i thought we were closer than that because she doesn't know what she's saying congrats to for me to find out that you adopted babies finally and like got what you wanted and then it's like i'm not sharing and a part of that because i couldn't get into a zoom link i had this thought i literally had this thought where i was like is this planned yeah yeah who is your guys favorite on miami all the marisol

Speaker 9 feels like the voice of reason okay

Speaker 1 kiki though kiki eats i've always loved

Speaker 12 kiki's really great kiki is the one-liners but marisol is just consistently like saying what we're all thinking

Speaker 3 just because it's good for the hole doesn't mean it's good for the the soul.

Speaker 15 Nick needs to watch Ultimate Girls Trip season three. Because Body Soul and Alexia, they ate.

Speaker 1 Oh my God, her and her like screwdrivers. How many Ultimate Girls trips are there? Three.

Speaker 15 Technically four because Legacy ended up being a little bit different.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Justin, you're so obsessed with that.

Speaker 12 He said, don't discredit me.

Speaker 15 I love Ultimate Girls Trip. No, but there's one season, Morocco.
I saw this theory. So the Morocco season didn't happen.

Speaker 15 If you've noticed, all these women are being sprinkled back into their franchises.

Speaker 15 So there's a theory that they were like, we didn't, we're not airing the season, so we have to like owe them something.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 15 So everybody but Alex, who's now living in Australia from Roney, has like, and Eva technically has been put back on their franchise as like appearances. Does it make sense?

Speaker 15 Like Phaedra's back, Vicki's back, and Brandy, I guess, because she's not coming back.

Speaker 3 Justin sold Thailand to me as like a continuation of Salt Lake City when I was going on my Salt Lake City journey. And it is, but it also like really just opens you up to a whole new world.

Speaker 15 Well, and everybody that's like, what housewife should I watch? I'm like, just watch season three and decide from there who you like.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Because what?

Speaker 1 You get Portia, you get Candice calling Giselle Green, Giselle, yeah, Heather, Whitney, stealing the bottle,

Speaker 1 she didn't talk.

Speaker 15 That's what I'm saying, though, but everybody's being sprinkled back in. So someone pointed that Gretchen's back, so it's like interesting.

Speaker 1 It's a good theory.

Speaker 9 They did just release the trailer for the Mormon Wives Reunion.

Speaker 1 They did?

Speaker 15 Like, literally 30 minutes ago.

Speaker 9 Do you want to see it?

Speaker 11 I do.

Speaker 15 Someone say breaking news.

Speaker 1 Breaking news.

Speaker 1 news.

Speaker 1 I didn't know where you were going with that.

Speaker 1 It works.

Speaker 3 The Morthern Lives trailer has dropped.

Speaker 15 And Michaela's in the first two seconds.

Speaker 12 Oh, are you guys in an LDS church?

Speaker 9 I wish. Yeah, where are you guys?

Speaker 1 That's stunning. These shadowers.

Speaker 1 According to all the women, apparently it's like a part of the church where most people aren't supposed to know what it looks like or something.

Speaker 1 Oh my God. We're not going to really care.

Speaker 9 They didn't do like a dress code or anything, right? Like there's no like dress.

Speaker 1 I mean, they're wearing the same color color palettes are they no i think i feel like no no i don't there wasn't really a i mean it doesn't look like there is didn't you have a dress code nick yeah i had to change why

Speaker 1 there's a color palette

Speaker 1 because my stylist picked out like well i they gave me like some selects and then i picked out this kind of like sage green suit it was it was really cool but like it it was like too light toned for the set so they wanted me to wear something darker so uh reunion 101 is there's the color palette usually yeah but this doesn't look like there's a it does look.

Speaker 1 Besides

Speaker 1 everybody but Miranda, but they're all the same like pink.

Speaker 8 Otherwise,

Speaker 1 there's their spring colors, though, you know?

Speaker 12 I'm just saying Whitney, she sticks out like a sore thumb if there was a color color.

Speaker 1 I do not believe there was a coordinated color theme. Yeah.

Speaker 15 Guys, my sister is moving to Utah, and I've never been more excited. She told me the other day, and she said it as if it was going to be like this jaw-dropping news.

Speaker 1 What part of Utah?

Speaker 15 No clue, but I was like, is it near Park City?

Speaker 13 And she said, no, I don't know.

Speaker 1 But I was like, Utah's enough for me.

Speaker 12 We're going to Swig, baby.

Speaker 9 I need to go to Swig. Nick, it looks really good.
I'm really excited to wear out.

Speaker 1 Yay!

Speaker 1 Congrats. I think it's going to be great.
Yeah.

Speaker 9 I mean, you know.

Speaker 1 Yeah. You were there.
You famously were there.

Speaker 12 Is it one like whole reunion or is there multiple parts?

Speaker 1 It's just one lengthy reunion. Yay.

Speaker 15 Did you hand anybody tissues?

Speaker 1 Yeah, did anyone cry? Everything tears? Definitely tears. It looks like

Speaker 1 a condition to hand anyone tissues.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Black eyes.
Storming out.

Speaker 9 Oh, yeah. Did anyone storm off?

Speaker 1 Cannot say.

Speaker 12 I cannot say.

Speaker 1 Cannot wait.

Speaker 9 It looks so good, though.

Speaker 1 I think the audience will laugh, and I think the audience will cry.

Speaker 3 That's beautiful. I love doing both of those things.

Speaker 1 There will be receipts. There will be people exposed.
There'll be

Speaker 1 my job is on the floor. That's for sure.
I'm so excited.

Speaker 12 They included that little clip of Demi walking in a denim suit. Is that to

Speaker 1 like I said, in a way, Demi is a part of the reunion. Very much so.

Speaker 13 Cannot wait. Wow.

Speaker 3 I can't wait to find out what that means.

Speaker 1 And I want to see the receipts, the proof, the timelines, the screenshots. It's all there.

Speaker 1 Join us July 1st on Hulu. It's going to be wild.

Speaker 1 All right. Well, thank you guys for listening.
Thank you to our guests, Victoria Fuller and Jalen Brown. We will see you tomorrow for a very important episode of Going Deeper.

Speaker 1 I hope you join us tomorrow. We'll see you then.
Bye-bye.