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What's going on, everybody?

Welcome back to another episode of the Vile Files Reality Recap.

I'm your host, Nick, and justice for Jeremiah.

Jeremiah.

Jeremiah.

Jeremiah?

You talked to Wisconsin in me?

I think so.

Yeah.

Justice.

Justice.

Period.

Justice for for the most handsome man on the cast.

The hottest.

Like, let's not.

Did we really need to get rid of him right now?

Absolutely not.

We didn't.

Did you realize that Casa Moore is tomorrow night?

It starts tomorrow night.

Yeah.

Yeah.

They sent home the Hanuscan.

Ace is a.

It's all.

Ace did it all.

I agree.

I'm 100% playmates.

We'll break it down in just a second, but Victoria Fuller has returned to the Vilefowls.

She is here.

She is caught up on Love Island.

She'll be talking with us.

Steve is

sitting next to her.

How have you been?

I've been so good.

Thank you for asking.

You've been on the go.

Every time you post, you're busy.

Really?

You're doing something.

Oh.

You're on the town.

You're at a party.

You're at a festival.

You're at this.

You're at that.

You're here.

You're there.

You're up.

You're down.

Are you ever sitting at home?

Always.

Okay.

Of course.

Actually, I haven't posted on social media in six days because I don't.

You haven't?

No.

Is that like a deliberate like mental health thing?

Or I just don't have anything going on.

You know?

So it's like easier to.

You're like, you're past the point of like pretending that you have something going on in social media.

Yes.

Isn't that great?

Yeah.

I'm like, I literally remember when we used to like be like, all right, what am I going to?

Yeah.

You'd have to like make something up.

Take a picture of today.

Yeah.

I'm like, oh, they say post every day.

My food.

Your coffee.

My coffee.

Yeah.

Don't care.

It's like, at this point, it's like, I saw a headline.

Hannah Ann's pregnant.

Congrats, Hannah.

Yay!

Hannah Ann.

We love Hannah Ann.

So exciting.

Well, we have a great episode lined up for you today.

Jam-packed.

First of all, we're going to break down the past three episodes of Love Island, including the one where Megan thee Stallion was a part of.

And that was just kind of surreal.

Period.

I haven't forgot about it.

They got to grind on her.

Like, I mean, Austin got to do this to Megan the Stallion.

That was crazy.

Just like spread eagle showing his crotch.

no that was really crazy i don't think i've ever laughed that hard i know it was it was definitely better than the milk challenge we do have jalen later this episode who gone too soon jalen he got a passport just to come to fiji for like three days yeah

that's all he got his passport for it was like it was just so excited to time out of the country anyways We get to talk to Jalen later this episode.

Also later this episode, we'll get into some Real Housewives of Miami, some Atlanta.

But now let's talk.

Okay, perfect.

Let's do it.

Do we want to start at the, do we want to go backwards or forwards?

You want to start with Megan thee Stallion?

It was honestly the thing that was going to bring America together.

Megan the Stallion.

Everyone's working, Megan Thee Stallion.

Like that was the only thing that was going to get us aligned.

It was kind of shocking just how beautifully it

timed up because obviously that show moves so fast.

They couldn't possibly have.

timed it or know that Jeremiah and Huda were going to break up or that Huda would have been like just kind of like Huda Hurricane making everything about her, and then finally bring in someone like Megan thee Stallion to, like, no one give a fuck about anything else in that moment.

And like, it honestly, like, saved the villa for like a split second.

It really did.

Everyone was like happy, and Hilarion Drew was like, oh my God, do you know my name?

I loved that moment.

It was so cute.

I loved it.

I honestly wish Megan would have like kind of read Huda, but she was just like, you stand on business.

You stand ten toes down.

And it was like, well, yeah, she wasn't there for that.

You know,

she didn't want to like, she was just being a girl.

Yeah, she was being girl's girl, which I can appreciate.

But what she did, kind of, she gave her like the slightest bit of hard time.

What did she say?

It was.

No, she really didn't.

She's like, oh, your face when you got like mad or something.

I don't know.

Oh, no, she gave her shit about the baby, the mama.

Oh, no.

Yeah, she gave her a shit.

She was like, my favorite moment was like,

mama, mama, mama, mama sita.

She was like, Nick, why did you say mama sita?

I loved that.

No, watching Austin and Taylor and Nick, honestly.

Unbelievable.

Unbelievable.

Twerk.

It was the craziest thing I've ever seen.

I can't.

And like, the way that Austin was moving was something I don't think I'll ever forget.

He looked like,

I mean, he looked like a daddy long leg, like

a little bit of like a grasshopper mixed with a daddy long leg.

It was awful.

Yeah, but so good.

It was really, really bad.

It was really bad.

Didn't Austin win his challenge?

Yeah.

Yeah.

It was so bad he won.

Oh, my gosh.

And then they built the new bombshells, TJ and Adrina.

Are you good at puzzles?

Yeah, I am pretty good.

How do you put your puzzle together?

I do the colors first.

Put all the colors together.

Like before you start putting them together?

Yeah, before I start.

You section them out.

Yeah, I section them out first before I start.

What do you do?

I don't do a lot of puzzles, to be honest.

He's like going through like a thousand pieces just looking for like the four corners.

I don't remember the last time I've done a puzzle.

We did one for Christmas a few years ago.

We started a puzzle.

Yeah.

We started a puzzle.

And then it sat on our dining room table for two weeks.

Forever.

Yeah.

It was like a 500-piece puzzle.

500.

Something like that.

Couldn't get it done.

It was one of those like one of those days where Nadia was like, let's do something fun.

And I was like, how about a puzzle?

Aw, what was it up?

We never completed it.

It was like a Christmas cottage oh it was too much it was okay

like it was so cute it was like it was too much it wasn't fun it was too much it was honestly we tried to like make it a competition you know of like yes of course speaking of love i and speaking of breakfast um this is just something I just want to share because it really excites me.

What is the thing in your life that just makes you so happy that you have have to have maybe on a daily basis or just something that you really have figured out and you just absolutely love it?

What is that for you?

Mine's Coffee Mate Vanilla Coffee Creamer.

Wow.

That's not a special thing.

That's so special.

Why is that not special?

That's her most special thing.

Why is that not special?

Why is that not special?

He says not special.

The cancer in it is special.

Passmertainment is special.

The chunks in it are special.

Yeah.

What's your thing?

Is it an everyday thing?

I mean, you're,

I don't know if you want to hear my wants to tell you his, so if you're like Victoria, do you want to just go ahead and tell me yours?

You don't have one?

No, I do.

What is it?

It's

a non-fat Greek yogurt, and I put a protein powder in it, and then I add blueberries and walnuts.

Oh my god, I don't fit in here.

Coffee made freshly squeezed orange juice for me.

Oh,

every day.

Every day.

Well, I used to get it at Whole Foods, but sometimes I would go and they wouldn't have it and sometimes they would.

And it just became like,

it would really ruin me.

Unpredictable.

It was very unpredictable.

And I would sometimes go.

Then

there was a Gelson's that had it sometimes.

Air One sometimes had it, but theirs wasn't

very good, you know?

And so I have.

figured it out now because now we're remodeling the lake house and they certainly don't have a whole foods at the lake lake house, right?

And I, I, I need to have freshly squeezed orange juice every day.

It like it, it's the thing that makes me the happiest.

Okay, I absolutely have get them some right now, please.

The happiest, no, it's not you, not river, not the dogs, as far as eating food and orange juice, as far as eating food, yeah.

So now I've been trying to figure out freshly squeezed so I can have it at the lake house because I want to spend more time there.

Did you get it?

I got one of those, yes.

Well, first, I got one of the a ninja,

like a machine.

No, you've got to go hand.

You got to go hand.

He was like peeling all the oranges and like peeling all of the little veiny paid.

It was such an ordeal.

And then you would put it in the machine and it would like, it would mix with all the white stuff, I guess.

Pulp?

The pulp?

Not the pulp, but like the

you'd peel the orange.

What's the, I don't know what the fur on the orange is.

Yeah, but did you, did you ever strain it and like put put it through?

Yeah.

No, I did, but it's still not as good.

Yeah, it was like a whole process.

So then I got the handheld thing.

Absolutely game-changing.

The orange juice is elite.

Okay.

I have some in the fridge.

I got a glass container.

It makes me so happy.

Do you do it every morning or are you asking Natalie to do it?

Oh, no, no.

I enjoy doing it.

Oh, you do?

Oh, God.

Yeah.

I would probably do it wrong.

Yeah.

I would absolutely never ask her.

Yeah.

It'd be like, are you serious?

Yeah.

This is fucked up.

He'd be like, you know, go drink your cocktail.

Like, look at the color of this orange.

This is

orange.

I would never ask out of it.

She could do it.

She could.

It's just, it's better for my mind.

I tried to help him today.

I was cutting the oranges in half for him.

Yeah, it was.

They're very sweet.

That's a good, that's a good moment.

That was me giving like an acts of service.

But so much easier because, again, you just have to slice it in half.

It's some.

Why does anyone ever use a machine?

Listen, guys.

You know what I've also discovered?

What?

Do you like shrimp cocktail?

Love it.

Oh, yeah, you made us some.

So, yeah, I there's I've ruined shrimp, restaurant shrimp cocktail.

I used to always think that you can only go and get like a good shrimp cocktail at a restaurant because, like, before that, like, you'd have like a dinner party or something, and then someone would bring a shrimp cocktail, and it'd be like a bunch of shrimp that's sitting out forever.

And it's just like kind of soggy and little, and like, it's disgusting.

Yeah, then you go to a restaurant, and then you'd bring out the restrimp cocktail.

No, it's so easy to do.

You said that you boiled it, right?

Yeah, it's real simple.

You go to go to a nice grocery store, fresh fresh market, Whole Foods, whatever,

get the pre-peeled so they take the poop out.

Yeah, yeah, I don't want the poop.

And then so you just take the skin off real, real simple.

Yeah.

You boil some water.

You put maybe crush some garlic and onions, you don't, whatever, just boil water.

When it's boiling, turn the water off.

Put the shrimp in.

Okay.

Six minutes later, done.

Turn the water off or turn the stove off?

Turn the stove off.

And then the water will stop boiling?

It's still really hot.

It comes hot, but okay.

And then you throw the shrimp in.

Throw the shrimp in.

Okay.

Take the shrimp out.

In the meantime, get a bowl of ice, put the shrimp, rinse it out, put it in the, put it in some ice, ice water, cold freezing water.

Then I take the water out and then I put the shrimp in the freezer.

And you have to eat it right before it's like,

not frozen yet, but like

it has like a little.

Yeah, just and it's perfect.

This is a process.

Food network.

No, it's so easy.

You didn't know where you were.

It's so easy.

And restaurant shrimp cocktail will never be good enough for you anymore.

Yeah.

I like, I like the bigger ones too.

Anyways, also that reminded me about Iris, who I, she seems like a really nice girl.

Lovely, nice, chill, down to earth, like just like definitely the opposite of Huda.

Like,

just really easygoing.

But she doesn't like dinner.

She said that?

She said, I, she doesn't like dinner.

I honestly.

When did she say that?

Who did she say that to?

She said, I don't like dinner.

That was her statement.

She was like, yeah, I don't really like dinner.

I forgot who she said it to, but it was early in her arrival.

What is she?

Dinner is like.

It's like one of my favorite things.

It's the best.

Dinner?

It's like an adulthood.

What do you do for fun?

What do you?

That's so true.

Like when you go out at the house.

Let's get dinner.

Yeah.

Dinner.

Yeah.

You don't go to clubs anymore.

Do you want to get dinner?

You just like have a nice meal.

Should we come to dinner?

Do you want to come over for dinner?

Dinner.

Like, what do you maybe that just shows us her age, I guess?

How old is she?

I'm guessing mid-early 20s.

Okay, that probably makes makes sense i guess i didn't like dinner at my early i still i always liked dinner i love dinner boom i can't dinner so good dinner i can't believe she that's weird i honestly don't think i could date someone who was like yeah i don't eat dinner listen they're interesting cats you think they're like you know they're they're you know, grown and cool and this and that.

And then like TJ says he likes to build stuff.

And you're thinking that he like builds houses.

And then he says he likes to build Lego sets.

What did did you think of Hannah gone too soon, also?

Spit on that hand.

Do you think she just, do you think they had sex or do you think she just...

Oh my God, his hips were literally going back and forth.

I mean, she's spitting on a hand.

Let's, we assume, had sex.

Nick and Sierra.

They've confirmed they've had sex.

Yeah.

30 seconds, 26 seconds.

First it was 26 seconds.

Then he added four more seconds.

Yeah.

Yeah.

He was like 26 seconds.

He's been a second.

Yeah, that's crazy.

He's like counting his head.

But relationships have, everyone who's had sex is broken up.

Well, Hannah and Pepe was not by choice.

Well, they're still broken up.

I'm just saying, either way.

Sure.

Well, I'm sorry, Nick.

I'm sorry, Nick and Sierra still together.

But like they...

I'm a little surprised that they're doing that early on.

Like, they had sex.

Next day, Nick is absolutely not having TJ, getting Sierra some tea.

He seems like he's like really feeling Sierra.

But he's like, I can't let a guy get you tea, but I definitely want to date other women.

Andreen 100%.

I know.

I was like, I thought that was crazy too.

I was like, are you fine?

He's like, no, I honestly, like, I don't see anyone other than you.

You're perfect.

We're perfect.

Like, we're in the best couple.

Like, I don't, like, I picture you.

You check all of my boxes.

I picture on the outside, but I don't want to close off.

Yeah.

No, no, no, no, no.

I'm definitely still not closing off.

It's literally a pity of a man.

Like, they have everything they could have ever wanted.

They're like, but I'm just going to keep looking.

Like, just in case.

Yeah.

No, it's so true.

It's crazy.

crazy no like look like a lot of this is teaching you like men just like once they have sex like especially that early on they're just like they're just like i don't know i think i'm good there's something about having sex that actually makes men not like i no i wonder if it would i love that you're saying this right now like as a man if you're not in love like if you're in a relationship great if you're like like we are

Yeah, yeah, but like you but like when you're dating like there's kind of like a I don't know.

It's like a chemical that goes on to your brain that says you hate her.

Well, there's it definitely is like this release for guys where I feel like they have you heard that like guys fall in love through vasopressin?

I'm not familiar with that one.

So it's a hormone that gets released in guys when it's like a struggle or like hard to like get and that's how they fall in love.

And we women fall in love through oxytocin and that's what's released during sex.

And it bonds you and it bonds you.

And it's all like love.

Exactly.

But guys don't, they, it releases in them, but not as much as women.

So they don't feel the love.

Yeah, they don't.

They fall in love through like the struggles and like accomplishing goals together and like doing things like one-on-one with their partner.

Podcasting together.

Right.

And that's how you fall in love, at least for guys.

So I think it's like when that bass of present hasn't like fully developed in them.

I do.

That's a good point, but I also do wonder if Nick was like, I know the show.

I've seen the show i'm sure costa more is like somewhere around the corner i'm not gonna like close off to you when i know i'm about to go like be around a bunch of bitches be around a bunch of beautiful women he's like i'm not gonna i'm not he's like i'm not gonna set myself up

like aaron or yeah oh yeah

because but here and it still is crazy at this point

exactly at this point he's like already basically like leading her on like if he goes and hooks up with someone and costa more he's still a dog yeah, exactly.

Yeah, no one's gonna be like, Oh, well, at least he told her.

It's like, no, you like fucking let her on, then, yeah, it's like he still had sex with her, like, he definitely still, yeah.

Oh, Amaya and Austin, the whole like, he's like complaining about her, Austin Boston, and then he's like, They were so cute,

he's like, It's too much.

She's hanging on me non-stop, and she just won't let me go.

Yeah, physical pleasure is not his love like that.

It is not, no, he's handling it way better than Ace did, but like,

she can't catch a break.

I know.

I kind of go babber.

Amaya Papaya.

I love Maya Maya Papaya.

She's just not.

Her man is just.

Her man has not showed up.

Like, Austin was never going to be her name.

Austin can't even take care of the Whiteheads under his nose.

He can't take care of her quite yet.

Ace was always, he's been scheming for Shelly since he showed up.

Yeah, but he's like weird.

It's annoying because Ace is definitely the most emotionally intelligent person.

Him and Shelly are so cute together.

Like, they really, they're just honestly.

She really likes him.

They seem like they should get married.

Yeah.

They really, like.

They have potential.

Yeah.

They seem like they're really a fit.

But there is something about like the fact that I just feel like, I don't think, you know, there's all these rumors on the internet about like they, I don't, I don't think that they would.

I don't know.

I don't.

They like met and partnered.

I guess they met once, but like, I guess it's not, I don't, I don't think it much.

either way.

It just feels, I don't know, maybe it's him coming in with like a million followers or whatever.

It just feels like he's too good at reality TV.

You know, it just

agree.

I think he's influencing us on the show.

Yeah, I think he comes off manipulative.

I think he manipulative.

I think it's kind of fucked that they did not show us the conversations of the elimination tonight.

I wonder why, though.

I think it'll probably be like they'll show it at some other time on

or on Aftersun.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

Movie night.

Movie night.

No, well, movie night's more about the cat.

It would only piss off Pepe.

Yeah.

Movie night's more about the cat.

Like, why'd they hide it from us, the audience?

I don't know.

Saving it for Aftersun seems stupid.

No, I don't think they're going to show it.

I don't think they're going to show it.

It was obviously a big deal last year.

It was huge.

That whole thing.

Let's table Jeremiah for a second.

Why do you think they sent home Hannah?

Because I honestly thought it was going to be Iris.

Because Iris

was kind of floating.

She didn't really have a match.

Hannah and Pepe seem to be hitting it off.

Hannah also seemed to be pretty close with like the other women.

Yeah.

Do you think they were trying to make Pepe available for Huda?

No, I don't think that they were like plotting.

I also think the women sent her home.

I don't know.

I honestly have no idea.

I was shocked.

I was shocked by that.

I was just as shocked as Hannah was.

Yeah.

I was like, wait, what?

And if you're Hannah, she's in a bit of it.

I don't, when Olandrio is trying to comfort her,

Yeah, it's like, bitch, I don't want to hear that right now.

You know, like them being like, you're a sunflower.

You're the light of, in this, in this villa.

It's like, then why vote me off if you love me so much?

If I'm your sister.

That's crazy.

It's like, this isn't the time.

And then like, write me a letter.

When they eliminate both like Jeremiah and Hannah, it starts off the same.

It's always like.

We love all of you.

You're all the same.

Like, honestly, it's so hard.

And then like the last thing they both say was like, well, we just based our decision based basically because this person is a piece of shit.

They didn't actually say that, but but they're like, just like, you know, like, we took everything in consideration.

And there's always like this kind of subtle

jab about like they did it wrong or something.

You know, like the way they moved in the way they moved.

And it's like, what the fuck is that supposed to mean?

I know.

And like poor Jeremiah knew, like, as soon as Taylor started talking.

Ace did it.

Like, the fact that Ace didn't stand up and like own his shit, because that was 100% Ace.

Ace 100%

told nick and taylor what to do absolutely he did ace is the ringleader yeah i honestly don't i honestly don't really i like him in the couple with shelly but i don't individually like him i think he's kind of like i don't know he thinks he's smarter than he is like he's kind of like i think he definitely has a hidden agenda for sure i agree of the uh ace is obsessed with huda conspiracy theorists oh he's obsessed with her or he was at least and that do you think that's why he hates tremendous i think from the very beginning that was why because he thought that Huda, from the very beginning, he thought that Huda during that like mass challenge or whatever, he thought that like Huda was making out with him or something, or did he make out with her?

He went and made out with her.

Yeah, he wouldn't make out with her.

And she was like, Well, I didn't get up for anybody.

And then he like kind of made like a weird thing with Jeremiah.

He's like, Well, that's because also Jeremiah, like Ace is clearly like the ringleader, right?

Nick and Taylor follow him.

And Jeremiah just kind of does his own thing.

And he's clearly like the best looking guy by a a mile.

And then Huda left.

And then the bombshell comes in, obviously, is giving like Jeremiah the attention.

It's just like it comes from a place of jealousy.

And like Ace is always talking shit about people.

Always.

It was crazy that the three of them.

Ace, Nick, and Taylor, were all talking shit about Jeremiah with Adrina, like when they were kissing and like sitting on.

They were all talking shit about him being like, damn, like the way he moves or the way he like

just talking about the way he's done this whole.

And then for them to like vote him off the you know hours later it's like yeah and they're saying like oh he came in here they said that he came in there like focused on huda and then wanted to get to the end with her so they were like making it sound like he was being manipulative and like what jeremiah is moving on like the all wanted him to move on exactly bombshell comes in and they're oh he was like he's writing off everyone and saying like oh platonic this platonic that it's like the only person he's been with is iris she's been the only yeah bombshell since it's clearly wasn't a match they didn't really like vibe with each other they were super chill and nice about it and like i don't yeah i don't know they did they did jeremiah

who would you have voted off i i really warmed up to austin pepe are pepe

probably pepe it's like i wish they could have changed their answer i don't know if they could have but like when they saw hannah got voted off i wish they could have been like

i just think it's that they didn't show us like what they were saying like why why are they protecting the cast that way i know that's kind of strange it is weird like don't i mean i i know you can't show us everything but like i want to see a little bit of like how it was influenced i agree what were the talking points but i think that's why they i don't know i feel like they didn't want us to like know who do you think they're protecting ace

for sure

with the girls i don't know really because i think they probably all agreed on hannah i don't know why there must be something hannah was kind of a freak really the way that she was doing that milk challenge oh my gosh

Honestly, no.

Wait, Nick was.

When Nick swallowed it, ew, and he was like,

that challenge was absolutely disgusting.

Would you imagine milk spitting it into someone's mouth?

Milk is already like only good.

It's only good when it's cold.

Ice fucking cold.

It has to be

cold.

So cold complimenting either cereal or a chocolate chip cookie.

Just like.

Just like as a cup.

I've had a glass of milk as a drink since I was six.

Yeah, I guess I haven't either.

Maybe like chocolate.

When was the last time you had milk with dinner?

Dinner.

It honestly makes me sick to think about it.

Dinner.

I used to do that.

I used to do it.

We used to do it in my family every night.

We would have a cup of milk.

When I was a kid, yeah.

Absolutely.

And then, like, one day my family stopped.

I was like,

they're like,

this is stupid.

I was like, okay.

It seemed weird.

I was drinking sweet tea out of the nipple.

Yeah.

Arnold Bomber.

No, there are families out there who sit down for dinner and everyone has a glass of milk.

I know.

It was a thing like

in the 80s.

In the 80s.

I wasn't born in the 80s.

Is it still a thing?

I was in the 90s.

Period.

Period.

She's young.

Just a glass of milk.

Just a glass of milk for dinner.

And you're like chunky.

The roast beef.

Oh, my God.

I'm a throw-up.

A bowl of spaghetti and milk.

Yeah, spaghetti and milk.

Ew.

Sick.

Pork chops and milk.

I only had milk at breakfast.

Great.

His bones.

i i only drank milk up until my sister who hated milk told me that it was cow's blood with no red blood cells what and i was like oh my god i could never touch this again why would your sister tell me i don't know i think she just like didn't want milk in the house and so she was like if i convince my little sister that it's just blood when we were kids we used to have when we would have macaroni and cheese we would we would imagine it being the most

like I was a picky eater.

Please don't make this gross for me.

We would just like just be like, I'm eating, we would come up with like gross, disgusting things, or like what we thought was fancy food, because, but it was mac and cheese.

I'm eating S Cargo.

Yeah, oh, okay.

No, like, I'm eating brains.

Yeah, no, we'd do that too.

Okay, yeah, he was creating,

he was using his imagination.

Well, it is your creative, he's a creative powder.

Yeah, well, my parents, like, they wouldn't buy like toy guns.

I'd use sticks.

You're like, pow, pow.

Yeah.

Well, honey, that was, they don't, they probably didn't even make toy guns then.

You know?

So you weren't missing out.

No one had a toy gun.

I missed it by a couple of years.

A couple years.

Only 10.

Truly.

Milk and spaghetti.

Milk and spaghetti.

Spaghetti.

I remember it fondly.

Does that make you hungry?

Yeah.

I honestly would go for some milk and spaghetti right now.

According to the internet, Nick did not have a cold sore.

Where?

On his, on his face?

There was a

couple episodes.

I don't know.

He should have disclosed.

They should have, he should have in his ITM, in his little interview, he should have been like, I know y'all are watching me and I'm going to go ahead and let you know right now.

I cut myself.

Okay.

It's just a little cut and now it's a little inflamed and red because it's irritated.

Just to let all you know, it's not a cold.

Like he should have given us a PSA.

Yeah.

Are you shocked that Huda's such a bad flirt?

Like the moment she got single, like it was, it was hard to watch.

It was tough.

She's a hard watch in general.

I think, well, she said it herself.

She was like, I'm used to men being like obsessed with me.

And so, like, if she has to work for it, I don't think she's good at it.

You know, and she had to work for it with Pepe.

She had to work for it with TJ.

And they both were kind of like,

Huda goes from like guy looking at her across the bar to like planning a wedding.

Yeah.

That's how fast she moves.

I know.

I know.

It's interesting because I don't know.

Have you ever?

I've been a huda.

We've all had a moment or two of a hooda.

What did she say?

Oh, when she's sitting there talking to TJ.

I've never spoken to anyone like that.

When she's sitting there talking to TJ and he's like, by the way, like, I'm not interested in you.

Like, you know, like at all.

And she's like, oh, don't worry.

Like, I'm not mad.

Like, I'm not going to scream like, fuck you or anything.

Right.

And she literally just did loss of.

Ma'am, you've been screaming, fuck you.

You're a bitch.

She got a pussy left and right.

It's tough because like every, she's just, listen, we've all had our heartbroken.

And when you're heartbroken, you make everything about you.

Yeah.

But like every sentence out of Huda's mouth starts with I or me.

Like I'm, I'm always this.

I'm never this.

Like I would never do that.

I'm always like this.

Like, it's just a lot of me.

It's all about her.

Yeah.

And she's always like, it's not always about me.

Even when she's like telling you it's not about her, she's talking about her.

She's just always describing herself.

She, she felt very.

Did you, were you moved by

her words with Jeremiah upon his exit?

Or did you feel like she was just standing on?

I think she probably meant what she was saying to him because they had real moments.

But I just think

that was just like so toxic.

So toxic.

I do think that was a genuine response to being like, oh, fuck, now this guy's like he's gone.

And I can't even talk to him if I want to.

Yeah.

And so I'm sure like the tears and all that stuff was, and then he kissed her on the forehead.

And I'm sure that made her feel like some type of way, you know.

Their interaction was sweet.

Yeah.

What do you think is going to happen with putto?

Well, that's the thing is like, that's why I'm kind of confused by like why producers didn't have more of a say in this

voting.

Like I guess it's kind of undatable.

They're going into Casa Moore.

And so it's like the only people that.

are going to get a reaction out of Casa Moore are the people who are like solidified in couples and who are going to be like pissed off that their man is doing something over there.

Yeah.

So that's clearly Ace and Shelley, Nick and Sierra, Alandrea and Taylor.

Like no one else, it would have also been Hannah and Pepe.

It would have been Amaya and Austin and it would have been Iris and maybe TJ, I guess.

They're like starting off their little thing, but like, that's why it doesn't really make sense as to why they would send home Hannah.

I know.

Because she would have had a reaction to and Pepe probably

would do because they're, they just started talking.

Like they just started, you know, so he might have like folded and costed more she would have had a big reaction maybe hannah's the one who would i hannah might have someone maybe i don't know like

but i feel like they would have had like a reaction and so it is like weird that they sent home somebody and a couple yeah and like a strong couple yeah but also too i think that they're playing chess in this and they probably know a little bit of what's gonna go down and like kind of being there obviously is really good tv she's great tv but she does kind of feel almost undatable and i'm not meaning that like as a but it seems like it it does seem like up to a certain point like they showed iris pat like iris was doing like some kind of tick tock or whatever and she was like watching the first few episodes of love island packing to go to fiji yeah she was like trying on her outfits to go to fiji yeah and in the background was like yeah it was so they don't like they don't like bring everyone all at the same time you know right make someone right no people but it seems like they watch and like they mention like when when bombshells come in they're like, they clearly are watching.

Yes.

So like if you're watching Huda do this shit with Jeremiah,

it is going to be hard for her to start over.

I agree.

Like what guy is going to be like, yeah, no, I'm.

Yeah.

Like I'm going in there for that.

She'll be different with me.

Yeah.

You know?

Yeah.

People love a fixer.

I mean, they love to.

They do love a project.

Like, I'm kind of, I kind of love a project.

It's going to take a special guy.

Yeah, it will take a special guy.

And I think that maybe she could have her moment.

I mean, that would be incredible if she finds love on this show.

that would be amazing they did show the five it's only five women that go into casa and five men that come into i've definitely thought it was like more than that maybe i'm thinking of temptation island where it's like a ton of women no it's i think it's only five it's only the equal number of people who are there so wait interesting for the vote they four women were safe and three guys were safe

no four four guys what four guys were safe we get nick ace taylor nick and okay

hoda got the fourth and then then Jeremiah.

Yeah, because there was more women than

oh, yeah.

Interesting.

Because I feel like Ace, I mean, they're all very popular, but I feel like Nick being matched with Sierra and Ace being matched with Shelly and Taylor being matched with Landria.

I feel like the men benefited from the women's popularity.

I feel like

people loved those women and they wanted the men that they were with.

It's almost like they voted for the men and supported them.

And then with Jeremiah, it was kind of on an island.

I don't feel like America voted against Jeremiah.

I feel like they kind of forgot to vote for him.

Yeah.

In a way.

It makes me sad, though, because I think he deserved a chance.

I'm curious.

I haven't been online since his exit, but I feel like there's going to be a little bit of outrage.

I agree.

Give me the uproar.

I need to know.

He's beautiful.

He'll be fine.

I know.

But he really seemed like a stand-up guy.

He did.

I mean, he never once

clapped back at Huda, and he always kept his composure.

Most guys would have been like that.

first headline I see is Ace, I will never forgive you for this.

What?

About Jeremiah.

No, it was all Ace.

Yeah.

Wait, wait, wait.

Jeremiah said that about Ace?

No, no, no.

That was just like a headline of someone's reaction to tonight.

They said, Ace, I'll never forgive you for this.

Okay, yeah.

Because Nick even came up to Jeremiah and be like, you know, you're my best friends in this house.

Like,

so why did you vote off your best friend?

Exactly.

Well, first of all, we've seen Ace, like, in every conversation, like, share his opinion, talk shit, try to convince the other people listening about why his opinion's right.

He's always talking about how he doesn't like how people move.

You know, fucking Ace was like outspoken.

You know, he was just like talking about how like Jeremiah has been closed off the whole time.

I think it's fucked up.

I don't know.

It's this game.

To me, it's this game, game, game.

You know, he was talking his shit.

And Ace was not going to let it not be Jeremiah.

You definitely was all about Jeremiah Smirk and Vega.

All right.

Well,

Victoria, thanks for stopping by.

Of course.

Thank you for having me.

Great having you.

Love you guys.

Love you.

All right.

Up next, Jalen Brown joins the show.

And then following our interview with Jalen, the household will join us and we'll get their thoughts on the previous episodes of Love Island.

We'll also share our thoughts about the Casa Cast joining the show and give some predictions about what we think will happen.

We'll also do a little household headlines, Real Housewives of Miami and Atlanta.

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jalen welcome to the vile files it's great to have you buddy you what's going on what's going on i'm glad to be here oh man we're so excited to talk with you first of all it was uh it was really sad to see you go.

I felt like you had a great few days in the villa.

You were gone too soon.

How are you feeling now that you're back in the States?

You're settled in.

How's your heart feeling?

Are you kind of like comfortable with how things played out?

Are you excited about what seems to be your newfound internet popularity?

Are you still kind of like having FOMO from being away from the villa?

Man, this is like,

you know, coming from a small town, this, this is, this is crazy, man um i say i'm just overwhelmed um i just feel like like like everywhere i go like it's just like oh you jalen from love island jalen from love island yes i am you know i'm saying i had to take a picture here i take a picture there it just feels like wow i'm really like living i don't know maybe like feel like i'm on 2k like a my career um thing like i'm feel like i'm on top of the world man um from the from the support i'm getting and just like

it's like wow it's like a wow moment like it feels like a dream almost that's awesome man well we're i think everyone's just super happy for you you really obviously connect with the audience and clearly so many people were sad to see you go i was you know when you entered the villa it really seemed like at the time taylor and alandrea were just kind of more like friends and when you came in being the country boy that you are and her constantly talking about how she likes a country man and then she paired up with you it really i really thought that you guys were going to really take off from there.

And from your perspective,

why do you feel like things didn't go the way we all kind of anticipated things to go with you and Alendria?

I feel like Taylor had more time.

You know, they started five.

They had more time.

I didn't have much time to work with.

But, you know, I'm coming in there just being myself.

And at the end of the day, I was just being myself.

Like, just, hey, I'm JB.

You know, I'm from this place, that place.

I thought we had something in common.

But, you know, unfortunately, she had a better connection with Taylor.

Taylor, so I wish them wish them two the best.

Yeah, that's all.

Was there a point on your date where you kind of felt like you know, I don't know, maybe it's we're just not connecting the way I hoped, or like, when did you kind of notice her kind of leaning back towards Taylor?

I thought we was doing good.

I'm not gonna lie,

I thought we was doing good, you know, but hey, um, I guess, I guess not.

Um, I'll say probably,

I don't know, I thought we was doing so good, but you know, she made the best man win, So she went with her.

You're a gentleman, man.

So when you, when you like unlock the door, and like, that's so brutal, by the way, like, it's like, it feels like no one wants to open a door that's locked.

There's something kind of like

clumsy about it.

And they really set you up for failure.

That kind of sucked.

But like, were you going when you went to open the door?

Like, what was your confidence level at that point?

Did you feel like, I don't know, man, or like, was it like 50-50 in your mind?

It was like 50-50 in my mind.

I'll say,

you know, me,

when I grabbed that door handle and I was like, oh, man, I was like, wow.

So I knew it was going to be Taylor at the end of the day.

So I was kind of like, okay.

I mean, it was either me or him at the end of the day.

So I was, I mean, like,

it was like, okay, she, she, she, um, she got a better connection with Taylor.

Yeah, well, you do.

Before you showed up at Love Island, you, uh, you're a trucker.

Yes, yes, I am a trucker.

Hell yeah, man.

That's great.

Like, I feel like there's so many times, especially nowadays in 2025 it feels like a lot of the people who get casted on these shows are like already influencers they're already on social media like you're like doing real work you know it's a it's a cool job you don't you know you don't hear about like you know kind of trade jobs so like credit to you man like but how did you get discovered and how did you end up you know being a trucker and end up on love island oh so um i'm gonna go in and say shout out to the shea um one of the producers on love island she um found me on um ig and we kind of went from there man because because i was shocked i thought it was a scam or some like some type of thing so i didn't know it was um for sure until i did some research on the shea i'm like oh it might be might be real you know what i'm saying so um the shea found me on social media and i don't know how but just went with it well the rest is history and so is it's true that you you had to get a passport this is your first passport or you got your passport just to go to love island Yeah, I got my passport just to go to love.

I've never been outside the country.

Never.

Are you going to start using this passport now that you have one?

Definitely, definitely.

I got to travel some more, man.

It just, Fiji opened up my eyes.

You know, it's more out there other than, you know,

farmland, just,

you know, just land and

trail rides,

all type of stuff.

You have all these brands, like hotels are hitting you up in the comments.

You got, I think, Delta, all these airlines.

So

have any of them actually come through and offered you any cool, exciting opportunities?

Yeah, definitely.

A lot of them, I say,

Delta offer some.

We got the Hilton, a couple more offer some too, like just free trips on this, this day, that day.

And

I want to say I want to thank them, man.

Like, it's really a dream come true.

I never would have thought that, hey, man, me coming off of two episodes, three episodes.

Hey, Jalen, you're going to be famous after this.

This big, you know what I'm saying?

I had, I think, 48 hours, I had a million followers.

So, like, what the hell, man?

Yeah, it was pretty funny.

Like, my producer Leia told me that you got to 500,000 followers and you got like balloons to celebrate and

by the time you posted, you're already at a million.

That's what I'm saying.

I got a cake, everything, like 500K.

Then I started reading the comments.

I read some of them, and they said you're going to get you to a million.

I'm like, no, y'all not.

Y'all ain't gonna get me to no million.

I'll check my phone.

Um, a couple, I think some minutes later, I'm like, I'm at 800.

Okay, I'm at 800.

Okay, oh shit.

I'm at 900.

So I saw, like, oh, i'm really they really not playing so shout out to them man shout out to the supporters they wasn't playing

1.5 million now yeah i mean i mean y'all like i wasn't expecting this i just made a tick tock i never had a tick tock

we love it i've never followed y'all what are you gonna make your tick tock page about um just traveling um um fitness um just about my life you know just you know about me really just me okay hell yeah i'd love to ask you some questions about your castmates in the villa you got to know them really well now that the season is really kind of taken off and we're smack in the middle of it there's obviously a lot of different opinions about the rest of your castmates have you been keeping up with the show since you left um not too much but um i've just been trying to get um just see my family members get back in touch with them ask how they um what they saw me on tv what did they think of it and stuff like that just getting their reaction or whatever but i have been just a little bit just a little bit okay all right what did your family think of you being on the show oh man it was crazy so my grandma and my mom they was like oh my gosh you had on that leather suit you kissing out on girls what the hell you know you know what i'm saying like wow so it was just like uh what the hell jalen doing on tv kissing out you know what i'm saying like that's how it was man it was like mom you know i'm on tv this is love island this is what they do you know what i'm saying so they was like damn i didn't know you do all that you know what i'm saying so yeah it was like okay jalen you know like that it was a reaction like that.

Uh, were you surprised to hear that Jeremiah got sent home?

Yeah, yeah, I was surprised a little bit.

I'm not gonna lie, um, shout out to Jeremiah, yeah, shout out to Jeremiah.

We, he seems like a really good dude.

A lot of the fans' reactions, and kind of what we all thought was

it really seemed like, for whatever reason, like Ace seems to be kind of like the leader of the pack.

He has a lot of opinions about a lot of people.

He kind of seems to talk shit about people behind people's back.

And for whatever reason, he always seemed to kind of like have an issue with the way that Jeremiah was moving.

And a lot of people are blaming Ace for ultimately the men's decision to send Jeremiah home.

You were around these guys for a few days.

Like, how did you see the dynamic of that group?

Is Ace kind of the ringleader of like between Nick and Taylor?

Or is that maybe an inaccurate perspective that people are just like coming up with on their own?

I think people just coming up with that on their own.

You know, they just see more camera time i guess on ace i mean and they see ace just

um you know being ace you know what i'm saying so i just think people got their own opinions about things but me personally i feel like it wasn't on ringleader wasn't no pack leader um all the guys did what they wanted to do and that's okay why do you feel like they came up with the decision to send jeremiah home if you had to guess I don't know why they sent Jeremiah.

I don't know why they did that.

No, I want to sent Jeremiah home, but you got to make a decision at the end of the day, you know.

But I'm trying to think.

I really can't think of a reason why they sent Jeremiah home.

Between Jeremiah Austin and Pepe, who do you think if you were like, who would have been your vote?

I mean, again, they all seem like great guys.

And that was, that's what's crazy about this show is they make you pick somebody, even if you love all of them.

Like, who do you think just based off of like connections and who would have been your vote?

That's hard.

I love all three of them guys, man.

Man, I'm acting like I'm on the show again.

I'm going to make make a decision.

This is crazy.

If I had to pick,

I love you, Austin, bro.

I love you, Austin.

But

I thought maybe Austin would have gone too.

Yeah.

I love you, Austin, man.

Like, bro, like, it's so hard.

I can't pick between the three, but if I had to, if I had to pick,

I mean,

it'd have to be Austin.

Okay.

All right.

Well, I appreciate your answering the question.

It's a tough question to answer.

So thanks for playing the game.

Not to rub salt on the wound, but were you pretty bummed to not get to meet Megan thee Stallion?

I was kind of like, wow, I mean, they would do it when I leave.

I was like, wow, they would do it when I leave.

I mean, but it is what it is, man.

You know, I might meet her, you know, out here.

So there you go.

Who knows?

Maybe.

Yeah.

I don't know.

Maybe, maybe she'll slide in.

You know what I'm saying?

She might.

She might.

Kalani.

Kalani even tweeted about me, man.

I was shocked by that.

Have there any other like

celebrities or famous people that like either comment on your page or that you've been able to interact with that kind of blown your mind?

I say Kalani.

Um, she she did a post about me.

Um, one, um,

and Coco, I forgot her name, Coco, she's a tennis player.

Shout out to Coco.

Um, she said, um, something under the under my Instagram Love Island picture.

She said something, but shout out to her.

But I know some other people said something too, but I forgot.

Okay.

The internet couldn't help but notice that you seem to follow all of your cast mates, but Huda.

is listen listen it's listen listen listen listen listen to me y'all y'all here we go here we go here we go y'all it was it was um um all every all so the people who managing my page

they still managing my page okay yeah i'm like what they unfollowed so they basically unfollowed all my friends all that stuff followed follow i guess the people they liked on the show and went with that yeah that makes a lot of sense everyone's got people managing their page so that wasn't, that wasn't Jalen.

That wasn't you.

That was.

No, that wasn't me.

That was your people kind of being

fans.

Yeah, they even unfollowed my family members.

Okay.

What?

Now you don't even know who you were following.

This is what I'm saying.

Like, I'm like, what?

And people calling me, hey, JB, what happened, man?

You just, you too Hollywood now.

You unfollowing me?

You got to get back hold of that Instagram, man.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

So what I got to.

Obviously, Huda's like created a lot of like waves, and people have a lot of, you know, mixed feelings about her.

How was your time with Huda and what was your perspective on how she moved in the villa?

It was kind of like a hay-by-high relationship.

Um, we had, um, it was like, hey, you know, we ain't got nothing against each other.

You know what I'm saying?

We just talk just a little bit or something about probably about fitness or just about life.

How you doing?

Oh, I'm doing good.

Okay.

Hope you have a good day.

Bam.

That was me and Huda and the villa.

That's about it.

Okay.

Who do you think is the strongest couple right now?

I would say Nick and Sierra right now, but right now it ain't looking too, it ain't looking, I don't know, it ain't looking too good.

So I'd say Ace and Shelly, right, right now.

Right now, Ace and Shelly.

But if Nick and Sierra would,

what I saw when I was in the villa, Nick and Sierra would be the strongest.

Yeah, I thought they were the strongest too until like, you know, they seemed to like hook up.

And then all of a sudden, Nick was like, hey, I want to date other people.

Who do you, what, is there a, is there a couple or relationship do you think that's most at risk as we we head into casa more um yeah

who

do you think that's how you were gonna get away with answering oh my god oh my god y'all crazy y'all crazy um

honestly

not gonna lie um

Elandria and Taylor

said that relationship um at risk um Nick and Sierra at risk um Austin Amaya at risk um shoot So everyone.

Okay.

Shoot.

Ace and Shelly at risk.

Hey.

Yeah, I mean,

I totally agree with you.

I don't feel like there's any like really established couple that like, I know a lot of people are blaming Ace, but like I think Nick seemed to like have the hots for what was the bombshell's name that Jeremiah was connecting with?

Andrina.

Andrina.

Yeah, so like Nick was talking to Andrina and like Andrina was the one bombshell that Nick seemed to be interested in other than Sierra.

And I feel like i wonder if like also knowing that casa more is around the corner do you think nick was like keeping his relationship very open because he wanted to be able to go into casa more you know kind of single and and available um

with that i feel like nick was um i feel like nick and sierra relationship um it was strong like i said it was strong adrina um she's hot i'm not gonna lie um

yeah yeah she she's nice i would have i would have said hey i would have wanted to get a a know it, wanted to get to know her too.

I'm ahead fumbling up my words, but yeah, she is hot.

She's very hot.

I don't blame.

I don't kind of, I mean, why not?

Just try, you know, just see who she is.

You know what I'm saying?

And, you know, she's a hot girl.

So I understand where Nick was coming from with that.

So if Alandria leaves the villa single, are you going to shoot your shot and ask for a second chance?

She didn't open that door for me.

Okay.

So I'm not going to open my door.

Okay.

Respectful king.

Okay.

she didn't open her door so i'm not gonna open my door i don't know i don't know if you were brought back for costa more which of the women would you go for i'm not gonna lie i go for shelly uh shelly um

amaya i go for a maya uh

shoot why not sierra yeah

why not

I go for those three are they uh do you think they're better looking in person or on on camera They look the same

on camera.

So when I was watching it previously,

checking them out, I said, I wonder, do they look the same in person?

And

they look the same, fairly the same.

What's next for you, Jalen?

I guess more content creating.

I want to make more TikToks.

I want to get involved with my supporters more.

That's what I want to do.

And I want to

travel more.

So that's what's next for me.

Get with my supporters more, travel more.

And

yeah, just make more content and just see where things go okay is this did you make the sweatshirt that you're wearing yeah yeah yeah rub read rub read is this jb

there we go i saw that where can people get that hoodie if they want to get it jalen um so i got this made but i can get some more man i got this made like can you send some to us yeah get that

get that website going because jalen get that website going tell that merch bro yeah i know i got this made for me man so i got it made i thought i was you know I'm a truck driver.

I'm handsome.

I look good.

I take good care of myself.

You know, a lot of truck drivers don't do that.

And, you know, I just got a discipline that nobody has.

So I just felt like I was a rap read, man.

A lot of people don't have the discipline I have or

truckers don't have the body or the looks I have.

So, hey, man, I'm a rap read.

All right.

And are you planning on, do you, are you going to keep on trucking or do you think influencing is going to take you away from that career?

The way things are going, if I keep getting millions and millions and millions and and

followers and stuff like that, I mean,

I got to go to content route.

I mean, it makes sense.

I say, I want to, I want to make my supporters,

like, I want to, I want to show my supporters my life, man.

And, and I want, and I love them.

You know what I'm saying?

They love me so much, man.

I'm like, shoot, why not?

Like, it's just insane.

Like, I didn't know that many people love me.

So I'm like, I got to show them love too.

Cause I'm like, if you love me, I love you.

Respect me, I respect you.

We all love you, Jalen.

Who would be your dream person to collaborate with?

Like, what is there a celebrity out there or influencer?

Like, who would be your absolutely dream to make content with?

Y'all put me in a tough spot.

Damn, that's a hard question.

Oh,

you can say more than one.

I say I want to make content with Jeremiah.

Okay.

In the villa, I want to make content with Jeremiah.

That would be number one.

Somebody in the villa, you know, just have somebody that's number one in the villa, you know, just do that.

Number two, I I would like to make content.

Uh, with I'll say, um, I like to make content with uh, shoot, Anthony Edwards.

Why not?

You know, him, the basketball player, yeah, yeah, Anthony Edwards, Pat Man.

Yeah, he's from Georgia, so I like to make some content with him.

All right, shout out to Anthony.

Let's let's yeah, shout out to Anthony Edwards, Timber Woods, man, number five from Georgia.

So, shout out to him.

I like to make content with him.

Are you gonna keep watching the season?

Um, yeah, I'm kind of curious to see what's um,

what's gonna happen.

Yeah, so I'm gonna try to watch some more of it.

Since they kicked Jeremiah out, I want to see what's going to happen next.

And, you know, with the Casa Amor.

So I know it's going to Casa Amore is going to be crazy.

Them boys are going to wild out.

The girls are going to wild out, I feel.

So

I'm definitely going to keep in touch with that.

One last question, Jalen, before we let you go.

Do you think it's going to be a man or a woman?

who steps out of their relationship during Casa Amor?

It's going to be both.

Okay.

Okay.

It's going to be both.

It's going to be ugly for both.

Oh, you, so you're predicting just chaos and mess.

Oh, I know it's going to be chaos and mess.

Okay.

Hell yeah.

All right, Jalen.

That's a great, great win.

I know.

Great place to leave it.

Jalen, can't thank you enough for taking the time.

Congratulations on all this exciting success that you're having.

It's really been a pleasure getting to know you and to see you on Love Island, man.

Wishing you nothing but the best going forward.

Excited to see what kind of content you make.

And I know we're all excited to keep following you.

So cheers to you and thank you for your time.

Yes, sir.

Appreciate you, Nick.

Appreciate you.

You know, just having me on the podcast, man.

This is my first podcast I ever did.

So I wish I hope I did good.

You did great, man.

We appreciate you.

You crushed it.

Appreciate you.

All right.

Take care, man.

All right.

What do we all think of Jalen?

I think he's adorable.

I'm in love with him.

You literally follow favorite follow of the year.

Well, Natalie and Victoria and I, we all talked a little about the past few episodes, but do you guys have any

things you want to get off your chest?

Yeah.

I have one thing I'd like to say.

Say it.

I'm really upset with everybody in the villa.

So are you with,

is it all ace?

I think it's, yeah, I think it's ace, and I think that Nick and Taylor can't stand up to him.

And I think that they all went with whatever he said.

And he was just, he hasn't liked Jeremiah this entire time

for, in my opinion, no reason at all.

Jeremiah's just been trying to be in with them this whole time, and he can't do anything right.

Like, he cuts himself off with Huda.

That's not right.

Even though Taylor did the same thing with Alandria and Nick did the same thing with Sierra, and Ace did the same thing with Shelly, if we're being real.

Yep.

And then he cuts himself off from Huda, but he didn't do it properly.

So then they're all upset with him for that.

And now he finally has a connection with someone else and they're mad at him for locking in too quickly with her.

Like, what can what is he

meant to do?

Yeah, I can completely agree, except that do you think Nick is more outspoken than we realize?

And just maybe it's just not being aired as much?

I don't know.

I was upset that they didn't really air that conversation to begin with because I would love to know.

I understand how the guys got to Jeremiah because like Taylor kind of explained based on what America saw bullshit.

Yeah, but it was bullshit that they didn't show any of those conversations of how they came to.

How did the girls get to Hannah?

Like, why did the girls choose Hannah?

Like, Iris doesn't have a real connection.

Like, she's going for TJ because he's he's kind of like.

Same with Amaya.

Amaya and like Amaya, I love Amaya and I'm glad that she's staying because I think she's fun.

But like her and Austin don't have a relationship.

So like either one of them should like Hannah has one of the strongest connections in the villa.

And the only thing that I can think of as the reason why they would send her home is because Huda wants to go for Pepe.

That's got to be it.

But it's like, I thought they didn't fuck with Huda.

Right.

And now it turns out that they do.

It's just like kind of confusing.

And also like hannah got so over by huda and then just get sent home like she was just trying to be a good friend and what i what i hate the most is huda being like i love you baby like we love you we love you and i i loved that hannah was just like no this is like i'm having a hard time talking to the people who just voted me out like yeah like you're gonna pretend to be all like buddy buddy like no you just voted me out of the villa for no reason because i have a connection like it would be one thing if i didn't have a connection and i okay i understand but like what the yeah i'm heated i mean do you think it's because hannah was a bombshell and hoda wasn't but there's just like no real connections going on like i'm not rooting for any of these couples and i'm not saying that if hannah stayed i would have been rooting for her and pepe but at the same time it's like yeah we're getting rid of the two people that actually have connections and then it's just like

I'm not rooting for anybody else in this house.

That's why it's like Casa.

I'm like, Casa is going to be a mess because everybody's singing.

The only person I was rooting for was Sierra and Nick.

And then Nick is just being like, well,

the day after they have sex, he's like, I want want to be open.

Like, of course, that's going to fuck with her.

But do we also think that like we want to get Jeremiah out because all the guys want to get with Adrian, Adriana?

Andrena.

Adriena.

I think that they wanted Jeremiah out because Nick is feeling Andrena and so is Ace.

And so like all of the guys are feeling her.

Jeremiah is not a follower.

He did his own thing.

He's clearly like the best looking guy in the villa and he clearly like basically got dibs.

Like all the women came in immediately interested in Jeremiah, whether they ended up like staying interested or not.

Like I think all the the guys noticed.

And that's the thing.

Jeremiah was able to like have this intense relationship with Huda and then find a quick connection.

Like

his ability to move on, I think was threatening to the other guys.

And the fact that he like kind of did his own thing, whether it's Ace like leading the pact with like Taylor and Nick following, or it's just like the three of them all kind of just like kind of talking shit and just kind of being their kind of this little clicky group that kind of like loves to like, you know, it's us three and everyone else type of thing and act like they're the, those three are like the alphas.

I also feel like I said this to Victoria and Natalie.

I feel like Nick, Ace, and Taylor being quote unquote saved, I feel like they owe their women a thank you because I feel like they got saved based off of being in the relationships with the most popular women in the villa.

Yes.

You know what I'm saying?

And I feel like, I don't feel like Jeremiah not being saved is a, is a reflection of like America not liking him.

I think it was more like a forgotten vote.

You know what I'm saying?

It wasn't like there were no reasons for people to be like, let's save Jeremiah.

Like Huda, for example, like as many people who like wanted to see her go, there were plenty of people out there who like...

There was a movement.

Yeah, there was like a movement for Huda.

Like, let's protect Huda because knowing that Huda had a lot of like haters, there were a lot of people who responded to her haters.

Where Jeremiah is more neutral.

You know what I'm saying?

And him being more neutral, like there weren't people going out there like trying to save Jeremiah and he got screwed over from it.

Yeah, no.

Shelly, Alandria, and Ciera are the closest thing to like the new PPG that we have of the season.

And America loves the three of them.

And so their men were saved.

Yeah, my biggest beef of the season is with Taylor.

You're with Alandrea and you are not just like whatever you want.

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

Like the way, and I understand maybe he's a little reserved and like she's a little reserved and they're taking things slow.

But at this point, once Megan the Stallion comes in and hypes up your girl like that, you need to know that you have to do the work.

You have to put in the goddamn work to keep this woman after that because she is better than you.

If Taylor gets with someone at Casa, like he's the biggest idiot in the world.

Alandria is literally one of the most beautiful women in the world.

He will never date someone hotter.

I mean, I don't think anyone will.

No, no.

No.

Also, do we want to talk about the new Casa cast?

They're ugly.

Oh, God.

I'm just kidding.

I'm sorry.

I'm sorry.

I'm sorry.

I'm joking.

I'm joking.

I'm joking.

I'm not even gonna ask you.

I said they're ugly, but I was joking and being me.

No, I mean, listen, pictures are kind of deceiving, but like they're hotter than me, but

the Casa women do not seem to be in the same league as the women that are currently in the villa.

I'll just say that.

Should we pull up a picture?

Like, obviously, everyone on the show is beautiful.

And that's another thing, too.

Like, to that point, Mary, I, I, like, one of the most outrageous things I find on the internet, of many things on the internet, and it's kind of funny, is the amount of like average to ugly looking people judging hot people online.

Yeah.

It's the most hilarious thing.

Like the way that the confidence of these like internet trolls talking about how these people are ugly when then you go on their page and you're like, you're, you're judging someone.

That being said, it just seems like the women who are currently in the villa are just dynamite and they're bringing in people for CASA who just don't, at least based off the pictures, don't appear to be in the same league.

I mean, that does kind of reflect real life, though.

But, and of the most beautiful women you've ever seen in your life dating men and you're like, what?

That, that guy?

But Love Island is supposed to be an escape from all of that.

Love Island is supposed to be an island of people that are so, so, so, so, so beautiful that they look like they were made in a lab.

Only reason why I point out that out, because I just, I, and I, that's why I asked Jalen, you know what I'd really love?

Cause you know how traditionally it's like in CASA, it's usually the guys like stepping out of the relationship and usually like the women are just like sitting around wondering what their men are doing.

Like, that's usually how it goes.

I would really love to see like Sierra swerve.

Or Shelly.

Oh my God, that would be amazing if Shelly like found a better connection or just a connection that made her like, I want her, I want it, I want to see Ace rattled.

You know what I'm saying?

Like the thing that bothers me about Ace so much is that he's like, he's moving too confidently and he's moving like he's never worried about like, it's just, it seems like he knows he's not going home, you know, and there's, I want to see him rattled.

I want to see him, you know, for all the hate that Huda's getting, like, she just got emotionally invested too soon.

You can criticize, you know, how she got there or whatever, but like when you're activated and you're emotionally triggered, like, you know, it's not easy to be at at your best.

So I want to see, you know, some of these guys get rattled.

I want to see them scared.

I want them emotionally worried about like losing their women.

And I want to see how they react.

And it would be great to see some of these women like fall, have connections with some of these CASA guys.

I mean, I agree.

I think that that would be.

I think that Ace is way too comfortable.

I think that him getting voted, like him being safe last night is only going to make him feel even more safe and more confident.

And I think that I think he's going to run amok in Casa Amore.

Like, I think he's like, finally, I get off my leash.

It's a whole group of whole new girls, and now I don't have to pretend.

Or, like, I'm, you know what I mean?

Like, I just, I feel like he's going to, he's going to get himself in trouble because of Casa Amore.

He's giving the Love Island Napoleon.

It really

wants everybody to back him up.

Honestly, like, last night's vote was like giving the first time I saw Ace lived up to his height.

That's nice.

I never heard that before.

Yeah.

He just like, he just, it just, it just reeked of jealousy.

Yeah.

And he also like has drooled over every new bombshell that's walked in.

And every bombshell, exactly as you said, has gone for Jeremiah.

So like, who do we hate?

Jeremiah.

Well, I have a theory too, since the beginning that Ace was into Huda.

I don't think he is anymore.

I think that he was turned off by her, but I think initially he was into Huda and Jeremiah had her.

You know what they always say?

The opposite of love is not hate.

I feel like he, you know, the anger or hostility that Ace showed towards Huda is like he, he still seems invested in Huda.

You know what I'm saying?

Like, he seems too invested in everyone but his own

situation.

Like, he's so invested.

You know, those

people at CASA who are so like invested in everybody else's relationships and they're pushing the other guys to like get with girls and go outside of their couples.

That actually is my prediction for ace at casa i actually think that he's gonna stay loyal to shelly and i think that he's gonna be the one egging on all the other guys

convincing them to to go outside of their couples but then also at the same time like put that energy into making like gassing shelly up because again another woman that is so so so so so so beautiful funny how the dates stopped happening these like pop-up dates stop happening the second he knows he has her yeah but it's like while i'm trying to steal him from austin or steal her from austin that's when i'm like here's pop-up yoga in the middle of the, of the villa, but it's a surprise.

But like, now it's like, where are these daily?

Pancakes and ping-pong.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Ugh.

The way I'd be so mad if somebody offered that to me.

Not, that would never happen on my mom.

Can I sit down and eat?

I can't believe we have Casa starting tonight.

I'm so excited.

I'm so excited.

By the time they're listening to this episode, we'll be an episode into Casa.

And how long does that usually last?

Let us know if we're wrong.

They're in Casa for a week.

I don't know how many episodes that equals, but at least.

Yeah.

But I'm honestly not like, I'm not that invested in any of these couples enough to like be rooting for any of them to stay loyal.

I do think Nick and Sierra are cute, but I was bummed by the way Nick, after they had sex, the way he just kind of like.

You know what's annoying is like, I think the most, the cutest couple that actually looks like.

the best match outside of the villa is actually Ace and Shelly.

There is like a natural chemistry that they have.

It's just that Shelly seems almost like kind of

Shelly's just almost too chill.

She's like.

She's on vacation.

Yeah, she's just kind of like there chilling.

She seems wonderful, but they do, when they're together, there's like this, this palpable chemistry that I feel like you feel.

And then like Ace seems almost like too good at reality TV.

You know, it just seems like he's, I'm not getting this authentic reaction.

It just seems like he's working with producers too much.

I don't know.

And then like them not showing how they came to that decision just feels like they were protecting people in a way that I didn't want them to be protected.

If you're going to make the cast vote someone off and like get together and like not do like these independent like just get behind people's back, I want to see those conversations.

That was such a major storyline from last season.

And the fact that they just didn't even give us any of that, like not even 15 seconds, not even like.

a little bit of cliff notes about like how they came to that decision.

None of that, which is kind of annoying.

Yeah, they even had like a whole movie night about that specific.

They also did it at the reunion, remember, and we were like, why are we spending 15 minutes on this footage we don't care about anymore?

Yeah, that was wild.

Yeah, and then we get, we didn't get any of that.

You know, it's fascinating.

Like, all the couples who have had sex are either like on the rocks or broken up.

Yeah.

Mommy's little meatball.

Hannah and Pepe

broken up.

Huda, Jeremiah, broken up.

And Nick and Sierra, Nick's like, I want to get ready for Casa.

Even though it was the best 25 seconds of my life.

But I'm also attracted to the new bomb show.

25 seconds.

So him omitting Rais Bull Chest.

It was 25 seconds.

Well, you did say 30 seconds last night.

Oh, okay.

Okay.

Well, I thought she handled herself pretty well.

I mean, she came out and she made it very clear where she was, that she made it clear that she was like really excited where this was going and she's not really looking around.

And then she just got this bullshit answer response from Nick.

Like, is she supposed to like yell at him?

It was, you know, it's natural for them to like.

No, I thought she handled herself really well.

And then Nick was kind of just like, well, if she's going to like act that way, then I'm going to.

And I was like, what do you mean?

Act like mature?

Like, what are you talking about?

Like, so that turned me off.

I really wanted him to like recognize her pulling away because of his actions and then try to get her back.

But him pulling away further just shows me that he's not really into her and he's ready for CASA.

They all are.

And he'll be watching.

Yeah.

Well, that'll wrap up our Love Highland discussion.

More to come this week.

Certainly as we enter into CASA.

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Did you guys see Tom Sandoval's America's Got Talent performance?

Yes, yes, I did.

He took some vocal lessons.

Are you guys haters?

Are you guys happy for Tom?

I think he picked a very difficult song and he did a good job with it.

I think that that man does not have stage fright, that's for sure.

I mean, the overall takeaway, to be clear, especially on america's got talent was like very positive like it was that classic simon cowell looking like what the fuck am i watching for the first few seconds it was giving like oh this is going to be an absolute disaster but then there was like the flip where like you know the judges got involved the audience got involved it was like a very like uplifting positive performance like that was the takeaway from the show i'm just curious if like what you guys think specifically Sierra being, you know, more like anti-Tom Zandoval.

I'm not anti-Tom Zandova.

I just am not a fan, but I'm like, I think he did a good job.

I'm just

we realize that America's Got Talent is like fake, right?

Like the audience reactions don't actually happen when like the talent are out.

A lot of the judges' reactions are taped at different times.

Oh, I didn't know that.

Like if you've ever been to America's, if you've been to an America's Got Talent taping, it's like the talent comes out, but like the reactions of the audience will be on like different days.

They'll make you react in certain ways.

Like it's all staged.

My biggest question is: does Simon Cowell know about Tom Sandoval?

Oh, he said he didn't care.

Yeah, they were like talking about Tomondo.

Do you think he would give a shit one way or the other?

No.

Well, I just, no, I mean, like, do you think he was like briefed on it or do you think he like knew?

Well, I think this all came together because of Howie Mendel.

I think Howie Mendel has some kind of relationship with Tom.

He was the first one to interview Tom post-Scandoval.

Like, I think there's a bit of like Howie Mendel has a a soft spot for Tom, Howie being one of the judges.

So I think that Howie, I'm guessing Howie facilitated getting Tom on the show in the first place.

So I don't know, maybe he gave, I don't know what Howie and Simon's relationship is, but maybe he gave him a little, you know, fair enough.

It is funny, just the comparison of Tom Sandoval on America's Got Talent and then Ariana Maddox hanging out with Megan the Stallion on Love Island.

You know, it's just like a little funny juxtaposition.

I mean, yeah, they're, I mean, like, yeah, Ariana's crushing life.

I just like, this was a guy who did something terrible, certainly, but was something that like, I don't know, 60% of the people dating do.

And he was,

I mean, like, his life was destroyed.

Like, he was literally the most hated man and talked about man for years.

And like, he's working hard and trying to make something of this experience.

And he's going on, like, knowing that people want him to fail.

And he still goes on out there and like, you know, does his best.

I feel like he got like.

You know how there's like an egot?

Like there's a club where like very few people have received an Emmy, a Grammy, et cetera, et cetera, Tony.

Oh, yeah.

I feel like there should be a competition similar where it's like, how many reality TV shows can you be on?

The reality TV egot.

Well, I don't think it counts if it's all under Bravo.

But America's Got Talent isn't.

You know, Tom's been on

America's Got Talent.

He's been on Massachusetts.

Trading.

He's been on Special Forces.

He was on Mass.

Nick is right, though.

this is all in the under the nbc portfolio so it's like well special forces is not that's fox uh america's got talent

um

and mass singer is fox too so a little diversity possibillions is e right listen again like ariana is doing things well beyond what tom sandoval is doing and she has

but like i compared to some of the men on bravo at least tom is trying to like seems like i don't know last time we talked to him on the show he's in individual and couples therapy he seems like he's actually trying to make positive changes in his life and he has coming from a situation where I mean like whether whether whatever you think of him it was really dark and he got so much fucking hate he's come out of this and and he's making he's doing positive things I don't know I think that I feel like I don't know why people have a hard time giving that credit to that and why it's They still want to be haters.

I mean, to his credit, and this is my own speculation, that a lot of these like competition shows have been paying talent to come on just to like spark internet chatter.

So like, to me, I think he's just like, he's not there to compete.

He's there to like

be a nanny for people like Sandoval.

He's still went on and performed knowing that people would want to make fun of him.

And he did well.

That's what I'm saying.

So just.

But I think he's fine with people making fun of him.

What I'm saying to his credit is that they may have paid him or at least wanted him to be there.

Yeah.

So someone does.

I am very curious to know, though, if he makes it pass the round.

Because while I do think he did a good job.

I I don't think that's the point of him being there I do think he did a good job I do not think that he did a good enough job to make it to the next round you know because America's got talent is like there are people coming on with the craziest talents I've ever seen in my life and so the people who are coming on and who are singing like better be really I feel like this is definitely a stunt cast for sure and it got ratings and it got like people talking about the show.

I mean, I've never seen America's Got Talent.

So

first time I watched it.

It's a fun watch.

Do you think it's more of a stunt than Selena Gomez and Haley Bieber unfollowing each other on Instagram?

I'm just blown away about the level of pet.

Like, you can't convince me that either of these two people want to be happy.

I don't think it's petty.

It's so unnecessary.

I think it was more petty to be following her.

Well, I don't know who started it

to keep that going.

My understanding of this whole saga, which has been going on for years, is they both had rabid fan bases, specifically Selena Gomez's fan base is, you know, those music fan bases are another level of toxicity in online bullying.

And it seemed like there was a following to be like, hey, let's listen, let's not do this.

And for, I don't know who started it.

I don't know what's going on, but the fact that they unfollow each other just invites people online to do outrageously horrible things.

And like, why is it bothering either of them that they're following each other?

I don't think it's bothering any of them.

I think we're reading into it.

Cause I mean, if even if we look at it, like when Haley signed her road deal to Sephora, who was liking the post?

Selena Gomez.

So I'm like, just because she unfollowed her, and we don't know that anyone's going to be.

So why unfollow?

I mean, it's not like a Taylor Swift.

I think it's just years of us pressuring them to follow nobody.

There was a point when Taylor Swift was following people and then she decided to follow nobody.

And I know that she reached out to friends and was like, hey, FYI, like, I'm just unfollowing everyone.

This is not a personal thing.

But like, they're both following hundreds of people.

I don't think we know she didn't reach out to people.

I think like that was a relationship that people pressured them to keep following each other when there was no relationship really to begin with.

You know what I always wonder is the people who discover these things.

Like who's going onto Haley Bieber's Instagram and

hey, I wonder if she's still following.

Let me do that.

What I'm saying is though that who they both know that their fan bases track every little thing they do and make a big deal about every little thing they do.

So for them to play into it seems crazy to me.

I don't know that it's playing into it or they're just like, let's just cut the ties now so we don't have to keep playing into it later.

Yeah.

Like, why?

Because before it was, oh, Selena follows Haley, she didn't like this post or she accidentally liked this post.

So it's like, why cut it now?

Every once in a while, I'll be on my account for a while and like, I don't know why I follow this person anymore.

I don't know.

I don't engage with them.

It's just like, there's an unfollow.

But if there's people like that are in public figure, I don't go out of my way to unfollow people, even if I don't fuck with them.

You know, like it's,

I just don't care, care, especially when there's a mute button.

It causes more of a conversation.

It used to be like, oh, if you didn't want to see their content, you can just mute anyone.

I think if I ever get famous, I'm just going to delete social media.

Yeah.

I just don't want to deal with that.

I would rather know peace.

I mean, I just see Selena Gomez in the way that she treats her like relationship with social media and she treats it as if she's a normal person.

Like she doesn't care about being the celebrity that has a social media.

She's always like, don't send me tips.

don't follow me don't send me this like i'll deactivate if i want to i won't post i'll turn off my likes like she loves to deactivate for a day announce a deactivation for a day

which i think is but she doesn't care about like the pr of who she's following like she's never been that person did you guys see teresa judice being interviewed and like leaving the interview i did yes so embarrassing for the news anchor nick did you see this i did but like you guys told me that her i mean Given that if this was a question about why she went to prison, I think it's a crazy question.

Like she's already served her time.

She's paid her dues.

But like you're telling, isn't there speculation that she's once again not paying her taxes?

I mean, I don't think it's speculation.

It's facts.

It's facts.

Well, I think it's like, well, no, it's Louis.

So like, there's the people she's associated with, there have been like lie-ins or lawsuits filed, and none of these have been concluded or anything.

Well, I mean, she went to prison because she was married to someone not paying their taxes.

And when you're married, you file joint, like it's you're kind of, it's kind of one and the same.

Not a tax expert.

So, you know, definitely could be wrong.

But like, if it's her husband not paying her taxes, that's not much better than her not paying her taxes.

Well, in March of this year, people reported that Teresa and Louis were each issued tax liens totaling $3 million, with Teresa owing $303,889

and Louis owing nearly $2.6 million.

Louis also has an open case for $163,523 from December 2024.

I just think it's an out-of-pocket question.

And something I've learned from you, Nick, is that you have to respect the guests while they're sitting on the couch.

So when I'm like, when he ripped that question out of nowhere,

I would have left too.

And then after that.

It blows my mind why they still will put their talent on these quote-unquote news shows who like will pretend they have to be act like journalists and they have to ask the tough questions, so to speak.

It also felt like this guy had no idea who she was and he was just like reading a question that was there and he was like, wait, what?

Did I think he said something wrong?

He was laughing about it.

He was like, oh, she didn't like that question.

She didn't like that question.

It's like, that's not what she came on to talk about.

I I think, Teresa, I respect it.

I would have ended it too.

And I think it's funny that she didn't know how to end it when she was there for two seconds longer.

Hey, if her not paying your taxes made it so that the next-gen cash could come and make pizza and hang out on a trampoline, are we really that mad?

Yeah, I mean, I don't give a fuck, but I just think that's the one thing you shouldn't be doing is like not paying your taxes because, like, you're

like, there's also just a way to say it.

Like, the way he phrased the question was just like,

when she was like, what, family?

Well, that's the thing.

It's just like when they, you know when bravo puts their talent on these types of like local news they they all act like they're better than these reality tv stars like the local news like people on local news act like they're like fucking rock stars i mean 20 years ago they used to be somebody's now they're nobodies because no one watches local news anymore but like they still have like the ego of like local legends you're saying the news anchors yeah like i think there's something sweet about local news anchors i agree with nick actually though i i mean i mean i'm sure i'm not saying saying they,

but there is a lot of like Wichita, Kansas, Jack Johnson, you know, like there's a lot of like

legend.

It's, there's like a camp aspect to it that like always makes me laugh.

Yeah, but a lot of them are assholes and they're like, they're like the guy who like was cool in high school, who never left and like still thinks he's the rock star by going to the bars.

Like, that's the attitude a lot of like local news anchors bring to their community.

Not all.

I agree.

And I think it's very funny.

because what you're seeing in like me in like bigger news anchors is the same thing but just even more inflated so it's funny to see it on a smaller scale but still like inflated and it just really i also i imagine that this didn't come from bravo because they're not on air and i feel like she probably just like one of her reps is like oh hop on this or she wanted to like say something and then homeboy hit her with the question

all right well let's start with atlanta i How do you, if you're still married, do you have to pay child?

I'm a little confused.

That's my big takeaway or question from this episode of Atlanta.

I don't, I'm certainly not a legal expert in the court of like family court, but I do not understand how, if you're married, how you owe child support.

Second follow-up question is, with all the stories out there that you hear about like deadbeat, usually fathers not paying child support, how

is it like, is Georgia state law like that hardcore where they're actually throwing people in jail for not paying it?

Because you hear a lot more stories about like just people just not paying what they owe.

I was just kind of very confused by all that.

I mean, I feel like they've been going through this legal process for like three years now.

So I think that that's part of it.

I think they are separated, but not fully divorced.

So maybe that's why he's a because them being separated, maybe that's where the child support comes into it.

Yeah, well, I mean, they had the divorce hearing, but it didn't get finalized and there had to be a continuance.

Yeah.

And it says that she they split in 2022.

So can someone do a quick Google search?

Child support is typically determined using an income share approach where both parents' incomes are considered to calculate the support amount.

The non-custodial parent who has less than 50% of the parenting time usually pays support to the custodial parent.

Georgia law also outlines procedures for reviewing and modifying child support orders as well as enforcing them through various legal means.

And I'm also reading, so this is an article from last year when the original lawsuits were going on.

And basically it says that Kelly said despite his previous jail stint, her ex failed to pay his support for February, March, April, May, and June.

And quotes, by his foregoing persistent and habitual refusal to abide and respect this court's order and other misconduct, Chivalo has persistently shown his utter disdain, disrespect, and disregard to authority of this court.

The court then orders Chivalo to be thrown in jail for contempt on January 12th.

Kelly's lawyer says Chivalo must be held in contempt and incarcerated until he purges himself of his contempt.

She also demanded the legal fees.

Presiding over divorce granted Kelly's motion and ordered Civallo to be jailed until he paid the child support.

And then it does say criminal penalties.

Failure to pay child support can lead to misdemeanor or felony charges, especially if a parent is attempting to avoid payment or has a history of non-payment.

So they do take that very seriously in Georgia.

The more you're good.

I mean, yeah, I don't know.

The Kelly versus Brit stuff was really what was really what threw me for a loop.

The episode in general, the back and forth there.

Yeah.

I honestly forgot about the divorce.

Pill pop and roommate.

I was like, oh, my.

Michael Jackson special?

Yeah, Phaedra.

I think Phaedra may have one of of my favorite lines ever which is the pillage she offered me was just a little advil pm i didn't get the propofol michael jackson special phaedra and her one-liners thank you for that and britt just takes the low road i'm sorry like her bringing up abortions that wasn't even a dig that was just like huh and they even said somebody did say to her like where it's just like and you want the support with the kenya stuff and then it's like this is how you're behaving and it's like there's some things i think cynthia said it there's some things that you do not need to to pull out of your arsenal in an argument and that was just disgusting she just

she i forget who said it on atlander but it was like when someone when they go low she just goes lower yeah and i was like oh my god you know yeah this is a second event that you're like doing this i actively gasped yes and she's been your friend she's been supporting you this entire time only one to have your back defending you in rooms you're not in and over glam over glam over glam like you kind of are trying to what up kelly and that's why kelly was like never mind.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I don't know.

The whole thing was wild.

I mean, Cynthia said on Watch What Happens Live afterwards, and I think she said it best, which was just like, it's never a good idea to share glam.

No, no, I don't think it ever ends well.

Don't do not share glam if you're going on housewives, take it.

And the whole Angela of it all.

The guy that's like paid to show up at this investment.

Oh my god.

Your husband has got also like Charles Oakley.

Charles Oakley.

I love that man.

The most oblivious man.

Like, he literally knew.

He's just making his chicken and waffles, minding his own business.

He's like, well, you walk around in the kitchen.

Yeah.

No, he for sure knew what the person said.

He was just like, I'm not paying a business.

But what did he say?

He's like, I own a restaurant.

And if you want to know what your husband's been getting up to, then you should call me.

And then he was just weird.

He was just weird.

Cause then he went up to Angela and was like, I want to have a word with you.

And she's like, do I know you?

And he's like, no.

Well, then, no.

Cheers if your name is Angela and your husband is cheating on you.

Like, what?

And then for Angela to be like, her and Charles had people pay, had someone pay the guy a visit.

When they

were, she was like, it's not the mom.

Are you a part of this?

There are people who care about it.

No, no, no, no.

She didn't pay the family.

She just had these people that care about us and they went to go visit.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's giving kisses the ring.

You have to clarify.

And then the guy was paid by someone to confront her.

That's what it was.

Yes.

So I want to know who this person is.

I literally started Googling, but then got too locked in on the episode again.

I was like, NBA players that has beef with Charles Oakley.

That's like, who could it be?

Yeah.

I mean, a lot of people had beef with Charles Oakley back in the day.

Exactly.

Michael Jordan literally wrote the foreword to his book, which I found out on Watch Wattons Live.

And I'm like, who's coming after this guy?

Charles Oakley and Charles Barkley don't like each other.

Was it Barkley?

Was it?

No, I'm just kidding.

I'm not there.

I'm just Googling.

I was like, who hates Charles Oakley?

And the AI is like, it could have been.

Just so you know.

I don't know.

The owner of the Knicks hates Charles Oakley.

Hey, it could have been the owner of the Knicks.

like that's what i'm saying and the amount that basketball is is intertwined with housewives we don't know i love atlanta i love i love atlanta and like drew being locked outside of the event and like sharing food with the security guard

like literally taking taking this man's lunch she took his food i was like oh girl she was 15 minutes late i mean phaedra did say like do not come late but and also the shame walk when they walked in and she's like for the late people come in yeah and we're the show is over

i tell mary you're either 10 minutes early or you're 30 minutes late and she's 30 minutes late yeah

i do relate to drew in that way but she's just happy we're not talking about her like yeah she was like i'll be locked out she was like you know what i would love to not be in this business yeah yeah god i'm i'm so excited for the finale yeah and for i mean it's it's so annoying that britt's not at the reunion how many more episodes are there there's one more and then there's reunion but we don't know how many parts yet oh Oh, it's giving it three.

It's got to be three.

Oh, I want.

I like this season.

But also, I'm so mad that Britt's not going to be.

Like, I mean.

You're mad that she's not going to be there for what reason?

To get crucified by the cast?

I mean, yeah.

Okay.

Yeah.

I kind of wanted to see, I wanted to see them say what needed to be said about it.

Well, it's tough to have a whole season, not a whole season, but a big chunk of the season being about one person's mess and then have that person not show up.

Like, kind of like, what's the point of a reunion?

Yeah.

Like, Kelly needs to come with some lines for Brit and the Shamia Porsche of it all, too.

Because I'm like, Britt just threw Shamia under the bus saying that she was showing text messages from Porsche, but like, is that even true?

Who knows?

It's like you're just trying to destroy a friendship that just got rebuilt.

Also, knowing what like Porsche is going through in the moment, I will say, Phaedra did handle that well when she's like, We're going to start the show.

And everybody's like, Well, what about Portia?

And she's like, She's not going to be here.

I'll handle it after.

Yeah, continue.

Yeah, that was really she's like, No drama, yeah, we'll talk about it later.

Segway into Miami, I was shocked to agree with Larsa.

What?

Huh?

You got to say more.

Explain.

If you are going to invoke your dying parents' name as a way to garner sympathy, then you probably should like be by their side.

You know what I'm saying?

It's just kind of like, why aren't you with them?

Like, why are you here?

Like, it kind of like, you know, I get there's a lot of people out there who don't have relationships with parents and, you know, they're not very close.

But like, I don't know, like if you're gonna bring it up be like well my my dad's dying and you're supposed to treat me differently or give me sympathy as a result of a dying parent then like shouldn't you be by their side that was my thought and then like larsa said it out loud what i was thinking uh but i'm like i agree with her son where i'm just kind of like that's her business and if she has like a paid thing that she's going to like i'm like i don't know if that's the choice that she wants to make brought it up well because she was saying she was going through a lot and like

and it was like listing off to larsa like what like where she's at.

I don't think she was using it as a like Trump card.

Yeah.

That's how I saw it.

She's just being vulnerable.

I thought Larsa was more out of pocket for like every time that she walked up, she was pulling out the selfie light and intentionally trying to like.

Honestly, and I went back and I'm watching season one too, where I'm just kind of like Larsa has been petty forever and the marasaw, Alexia, and Larsa of it all.

It's like Larsa can do no wrong.

She's been attacking Lisa for the last two seasons over like not being a good enough friend or not being loyal where I'm like, I think God Fabulous wanted to know, but I'm like, even this conversation, like you're from New York, see loyalty means a lot, like where it's like, no matter what, it's like always going to find a way to make sure that everyone sides with her.

And I'm like, she never wants to hear anybody out.

She always does talk down to people.

And it's just like, and expects everybody to like kneel at her feet because she was friends with the Kardashian.

Like, I just, I think she's so mean to her friends and people, nobody checks Larsa.

I will say in Larsa's defense, when they were in the Sprinter van and Lisa, or not a Sprinter van, but the car, and Lisa was like apologizing to her son, be like, sorry, your mother's not being a good example.

I was like,

that's a little, we didn't have to go there, but it's a little too much.

That is a bit much.

Yeah, I agree.

But her son was like, just leave me the fuck out of this.

Literally.

Well, I'm just like, Miami's going in on insinuating at least.

Yeah.

Insinuate, intimating.

The AC, intimating.

There is AC being used, and that Lisa's man, Jodi, Jodi is his name, right?

Jodi is partaking or not there.

Yes.

I didn't think we were going to dive that deep into it.

And I may agree.

Well, and and I love Lisa, but I was like, the AC, and they spoke out and said it was all just like...

I'm just like, but I'm getting that like Lisa was married to Lenny, a successful plastic surgeon who was throwing like these

Star Island parties.

Like, and I'm like, are we, and we're, are we pretending like we're not in Miami?

Exactly.

Well, the cut, the cut to them showing the picture of him at the event.

I was gagged.

I was like, wait, what are we talking about, first of all?

No, we're going to make this the whole storyline for Lisa, which is unfortunate.

Yeah.

Because I'm like, if he's supporting her.

But then at the same time, that whole fashion show thing where it's like she's stuck in this weird conversation doing her job with larsa and then it's like for him to like text being like i'm feeling left alone so i just disappear like that to me giant red flag i'm like you're at her event she's working there's cameras here like let's not pull this shit tonight she also looked hot she did i thought she killed it and then who is the guy that they were both talking to and then they both fabulous fabulous remember and they both were like he took my side it's like okay nobody was listening to the conversation i do love my Miami.

Like, just don't be disrespectful.

And then, like, we won't talk, we won't hang out with your ex, but nobody was hanging out with your ex.

And I also think that that's kind of crazy where it's like, even Fabulous agreed that I'm like, the boyfriend might be hanging out with your ex-boyfriend, but like Lisa says, make it, made it a point to not.

So I'm like, she can't control what he does.

And for her to be like, yeah, well, if you put his dick in your mouth, you should be controlling him.

And I'm like, Larsa, nobody's saying that.

There's multiple people in the room using AC from what we've seen.

It's Miami.

It's Miami.

That's literally the town that Scarface.

The cartels.

Like, what are we talking about here?

Like, yeah, part 1970 is like, it was like the coke drop spot.

It's the foundation of the city.

That's why I don't go.

It is the culture.

It is the culture of the city.

That's why I'm scared of Miami.

Okay.

I want to go to Miami.

There's too many people.

Miami's a beautiful.

You don't need to be scared.

Miami's a beautiful place.

It is very difficult to tell people's ages on Miami because they're all hot.

Sure.

Alexia's so hot.

Alexia.

Every time I see her, I'm like, oh, she's so hot.

Oh my God, Alexia and Todd.

The way that she thinks that

leasing is fake, fake owning is so funny.

Is that what it was?

Because her husband was super, her last husband was super successful, super rich.

So it's like always buying her cars and buying, but like they owned everything.

Todd's also rich, right?

I mean, in a way, leasing is fake owning.

It is, but it's funny how she.

She said renting.

She said, rent your car.

You rent your apartment.

I was like, well, that's what leasing is.

And isn't he?

He's in legal trouble.

It's a long-term rental.

The point being is that for her, she kept calling it this like fake thing because she's so used to everything being owned.

What did she say?

But it's like instead of just calling it leasing or renting, she's like, you fake owning, fake-owned car, fake bought.

She said rent.

I think she was saying renting because in my head, I was like, oh, she's not.

Either way, it's just another name for the same thing.

Yeah, leasing and renting are the same, no?

Am I wrong?

And fake owning.

Leasing just as leasier, you know?

In a way.

Was it Alexia that was like, NARC?

is a narcissist.

Oh, oh, yes.

Okay, wait.

Nick, define NARC.

Well, I would say it's someone who like tattletales, like goes behind your back, you know, uh,

yeah, not a narcissist.

And she goes, a narc, a narc, and then it's a narcissist.

And I was like, that's the way people on reality TV accuse other people of being narcissists is hilarious.

Yeah.

Well, that's the beauty of the show.

The best is that she has this dinner for her friend and she's like, these two did not get an invite because I don't want anybody making this about them.

This is all about Johnny or whoever.

And then it was all about Alexia.

Yeah.

I loved it, though.

I could, I could watch hours of Alexia.

I love that Julia was there.

Yeah, I know.

I love Julia.

I'm everywhere.

I'm so Julia.

Was Gertie at that dinner?

No, Gertie wasn't invited.

Yeah, that's true.

And she's got the issue.

And the Gertie, Julia.

I'm a little just like, I feel like we're kind of forcing a storyline here.

You know, I did think about that because they've always been really good friends.

And like, hearing what they say happened, I'm like, is it that big of a deal?

Which maybe it was.

But I almost kind of feel like

nobody has a right to be upset about this because it's an adoption announcement, right?

It's just.

And then also, Gertie was also going through a lot.

So I'm like, is it a tip for Tat or is it just like, let's just secure another season for each other to like,

but I'm also like confused as to why Julia wouldn't just call Gertie after the call and be like, hey, I'm adopting kids.

Like where it's like, to me, that's a weird way to go about it.

Being like, you'll find out when it comes out.

And then being mad that she just said congrats, but it's like, I thought we were closer than that.

And she doesn't know what she's saying congrats to.

For me to find out that you adopted babies finally and like got what you wanted.

And then it's like, I'm not sharing and a part of that because I couldn't get into a Zoom link.

I had this thought.

I literally had this thought where I was like, is this planned?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Who is your guys' favorite on Miami?

All of them.

Marisol.

Marisol feels like the voice of reason.

Okay.

Kiki, though.

Kiki Kiki.

I've always loved

the one liner.

Kiki's really great.

Kiki is the one-liners, but Marisol is just consistently like saying what we're all thinking.

Just because it's good for the hole doesn't mean it's good for the soul.

Nick needs to watch Ultimate Girls Trip Season 3.

Because Body Soul and Alexia, they ate.

Oh my God.

Her and her, like, screwdrivers.

how many ultimate girls trips are there three

technically four because legacy ended up yeah justin you're still obsessed with that he said don't discredit i love ultimate girls trip no but there's one season morocco i saw this theory so the morocco season didn't happen if you've noticed all these women are being sprinkled back into their franchises So there's a theory that they were like, we didn't, we're not airing the season, so we have to like owe them something.

Okay.

So everybody but Alex, who's now living in Australia from Roney, has like, and Eva technically has been put back on their franchise as like appearances.

Does it make sense?

Like Phaedra is back, Vicki's back, and Brandy, I guess, because she's not coming back.

Justin sold Thailand to me as like a continuation of Salt Lake City when I was going on my Salt Lake City journey, and it is, but it also like really just opens you up to a whole new world.

Well, and everybody that's like, what housewife should I watch?

I'm like, just watch season three and decide from there who you like.

Yeah.

Because what?

You get Porsche.

You get Candice Collins, Giselle Green.

Giselle.

Yeah.

Heather, Whitney.

Stealing the bottle.

event.

She didn't talk.

That's what I'm saying, though, but everybody's being sprinkled back in.

So someone pointed that Gretchen's back.

So it's like.

Interesting.

It's a good theory.

They did just release the trailer for the Mormon Wives Reunion.

They did?

Like, literally 30 minutes ago.

Do you want to see it?

I do.

Someone say breaking news.

Breaking news.

Breaking news.

I didn't know where you were going with that.

It works.

The Mormon Wives trailer has dropped.

And Michaela's in the first two seconds oh are you guys in an lds church i wish yeah where are you guys that's stunning these chandeliers

according to all the all the women apparently it's like a part of the church where most people aren't supposed to know what it looks like or something so oh my gosh

they didn't do like a dress code or anything right like there's no like dress i mean they're wearing the same color palettes are they no i think i feel like no no i don't there wasn't really a i mean it doesn't look like there is didn't you have a dress code, Nick?

Yeah, I had to change.

Why?

There's a color palette.

Because my stylist picked out, like, well, they gave me like some selects, and then I picked out this kind of like sage-green suit.

It was, it was really cool, but like, it, it was, like, too light toned for the set, so they wanted me to wear something darker.

So

Reunion 101 is there's the color palette usually.

Yeah, but this doesn't look like there's a color.

It does look.

Besides, Whitney's in blue.

Everybody met Miranda, but they're all the same like.

Otherwise,

these are spring colors, though, you know?

I'm just saying, Whitney, she sticks out like a sore thumb if there was a color color.

I don't, I do not believe there was a coordinated color theme.

Yeah,

guys, my sister is moving to Utah, and I've never been more excited.

She told me the other day, and she said it as if it was going to be like this jaw-dropping news.

What part of Utah?

No clue, but I was like, Is it near Park City?

And she said, No, I don't know.

But I was like, Utah's enough for me.

We're going to Swig, baby.

I need to go to Swig.

Nick, it looks really good.

I'm really excited to hear.

congrats i think it's going to be great yeah i mean you know yeah you were there you famously were is it one like whole reunion or is there multiple parts it's just one lengthy reunion yay did you hand anybody tissues yeah did anyone cry everything tears definitely tears it looks like

black eyes

yeah black eyes storming out oh yeah did anyone storm out cannot say i cannot say cannot wait it looks so good though i think i think the audience will laugh and I think the audience will cry.

That's beautiful.

I love doing both of those things.

There will be receipts.

There will be people exposed.

There'll be,

my job is on the floor.

That's for sure.

I'm so excited.

They included that little clip of Demi walking in a denim suit.

Is that to

be a little bit more?

Like I said, in a way, Demi is a part of the reunion.

Very much so.

Cannot wait.

Wow.

I can't wait to find out what that means.

And I want to see the receipts.

the proof, the timelines, the screenshots.

It's all there.

Join us July 1st on Hulu.

It's going to be wild.

All right.

Well, thank you guys for listening.

Thank you to our guests, Victoria Fuller and Jalen Brown.

We will see you tomorrow for a very important episode of Going Deeper.

I hope you join us tomorrow.

We'll see you then.

Bye-bye.

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