E944 - Brianne Howey Talks Ginny & Georgia, Love Island USA w/ Disrespectfully, Summer House & Karen Read

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Timestamps:
(00:00) - Intro

(01:43) - Katie and Dayna Join

(28:25) - Summer House

(50:06) - Brianne Howey Interview

(01:32:12) - Outro


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What is that? It is the best candy bar on the market it is a recess with nougat it looks like candy since 2024 you can't be better than all of us is what he's saying yeah so maybe that's your origin you should have some candy you'd probably be happier yeah candy's the best what are you trying to say after he's been like yelling at everyone all morning yeah i, I'm like, maybe you need a fast break. Maybe you need a fucking fast break.
So I got that and some lemonade Sour Patch Kids, but they weren't as great. Oh, yum.
What kind of candy do you like? Do you eat candy or is it just no candy in the household? Or are you allowed to? No candy past the front door. Truly, it's very strict.
Okay. I love a Reese's.
Then you'd probably love a fast break. I probably would.
Yeah. I've been eating chocolate-covered almonds on, like, nonstop recently.
So that's not, like, candy. That's, like, healthy girl.
That's, like, green juice girl candy. No, it's so L.A.
That's, like, Nick-approved candy. Nick has that candy.
He's like, I'm being bad right now. My candy's grapefruit.
Oh, my God. Do you give out trick-or-tor-treaters toothbrushes and pennies? What do you give trick-or-treaters? Just curious.
No, I'm like, Nick, we have to get the candy for the trick-or-treaters. He's like, absolutely not.
You cannot bring that candy into this house. No, not on my watch.
That was October. I was still eating candy in 2024.
Was this like a specific 2025 thing that you were like, I just don't want to... He's the one person on the planet Earth who has like made a New Year's resolution and has stuck to it.
Oh, candy was yours. So you formerly did eat candy.
I haven't had any sugar. He formerly was.
He formerly was eating supper and then would immediately make four bowls of cocoa pebbles and then eat three popsicles and then go to bed. I had a problem.
Here's the thing. He was sick.
Not to be this person, but isn't there sugar in grapefruit? Are you referring to refined? Simple sugars. Refined, okay.
The stuff that will kill you and give you diabetes. Oh my God.
The sugars, as they say in the South. I'm sure you've heard that before.
Yeah, for all the people. Oh, the sugar and oranges.
It's like, yeah. Well, yeah.
And also we need sugar to live. Okay, well, don't show him my fucking going to seven-30 vlog.
I will not show him that vlog on the fucking edge. We told you we need sugar to live.
I think you actually might. Well, again, sure.
Not refined. I'm talking about sugar, carbs, all these things we need.
You do need. What's going on, everybody? Welcome back to another episode of the Vile Files Reality Recap Edition.

I'm your host, Nick.

And boy, do we have a fun episode lined up for you today.

Later this episode, the star...

What?

Is she here?

Oh my God, she made it.

I'm so happy to see you.

I was so delirious when I woke up because I didn't fall asleep until 5.

5?

What were you doing?

Well, I fell asleep originally at 8.30 and then I woke up at 11. And then went out? No, I laid there just like dying for...
We both have sleeping disorder. We both have not good sleep situation, but...
What do you do to solve that problem? Oh, I scroll. I do the thing you're not supposed to do.
Yeah. Should be doing it.
I mean, I've tried everything. It just, yeah.
Do you have... I...
That was my problem. And then I got a kindle and now i'm a book girl you know i used to have a kindle i used to have one but then i kind of resisted but maybe i should get back on that it's nice to have all your books in one place yeah i mean i love an audiobook too well see this makes me tired you know like my eyes get tired of reading and i honestly don't even understand what's going on in the book because I just fall asleep.
I read Reddit. I call them my bedtime stories.
Are you sick? Well, not about me. No, I read like the Am I the Assholes.
I read about people's like really bizarre plane behavior. Do you ever go to bed dreaming about the stories? No, sometimes if I fall asleep to a TikTok though, it will.
Oh, yeah. I have on repeat like three audiobooks.
One of them being Matthew Perry, Don't Ask Me. And I just like his voice.
And so I'll have like dreams about Matthew Perry a lot. It's quite strange.
R.I.P. I used to want to watch Handmaid's Tale before bed.
That was triggering. Yeah.
Oh. That one's hard to watch before bed.
Yeah. No, thanks.
Might as well just watch the local news. I was about to say, let's go.
That's a little. And then by the time I woke up, I was like, oh, I haven't told it.
And I was like, oh, no, I don't.

I got to move around.

You're here.

You look great.

And we have a great episode.

Dana and Katie from Disrespectfully are here with us today because the cast of Love Island

has just been released.

And since they're best friends with the host, we figured, why not come in and let's talk

about the new cast members.

We also have Brienne Howey with us this episode, the star of Ginny in Georgia, which premieres this Thursday on Netflix. I feel like it's a show all of you people listening watch.
She's a complicated character. A mom who overcomes adversity.
A mom who is not afraid to speak her mind. Not afraid to speak her mind.
Stand her ground. Well, Brienne is with us, and we have a great conversation with her as later this episode.
Also, we'll get into the first reunion part one of Summer House. You guys don't watch Summer House, do you? No, but I follow on TikTok.
When you're chronically online, you can gather. Yeah, you know what's going on.
You don't need to watch TV anymore. No, I'm on it.
I got into it with Sierra on Vile Files Plus. I am just over this group of women calling themselves girls girls girls.
Yeah, it was a rough reunion. Can we retire that term just forever? Thank you.
Oh, my God. I consider myself a girls girl unless I don't like you.
I said it was a buzzword. It's another one of those buzzwords where it's just like, okay, so if I don't like one girl, but I like my girls or I've got my girls back, then all of a sudden I'm not a girls girl because I didn't have some random girls back that's this that's this group of women yeah no guess what there's a there's a lot of women i can't fucking stand so no i will thank you right for you yeah and i say this as someone who hates people i don't like people i like my people and it's just like this cast is like the leading charge of the self-identified i'm a girl you's girl.
You are like so in love, actually.

I am.

With a rock star.

Yeah.

I feel like we, last time you were here,

did we talk about that?

I don't think so.

I haven't really talked.

I mean, I've only recently, I guess,

talked more about it.

Yeah, I'm super happy.

He's great.

Wait, so one of the stars of Next Gen was involved in this crypto kidnapping thing. Charlie Zaccora.
We were talking about Katie being in love. I know.
I'm sorry. I'm just looking at the notes.
I don't mind keeping it to myself. No one wants to know.
Katie told me she likes to keep her love life private.

We're respecting that.

He's coming on disrespectfully.

Yeah, he'll be on disrespectfully.

We're going to have him on.

Yeah, once he's back from... Wait, Katie, how is it being on tour?

It's fun.

I like if you enjoy kind of like hanging out and just hanging, then it'll suit you.

But I just like being with him.

So it's like I could be sharing a bunk with him or walk around Disneyland. I don't know.
I just whatever we're doing. I just I want to want to be with him.
You were on a tour bus. Yeah.
It's like, how do you feel about sleeping in a sarcophagus? And then you know how you feel about. Yeah.
For three nights, my back was wrecked. It's like sleeping in a coffin.
Yeah, that's basically what it is. I mean, luckily, like I'm not a huge person.
He's not a huge guy. So we can fit nicely in there.
But, like, it's just every two hours you wake up and have to, like, change positions because your hips hurt or then your shoulder hurts. But I'm still, I still, like, will do it.
Are you, like, spooning the whole time? Sometimes it's a little bit. Like, he's definitely, like, a back sleeper.
So I just kind of, like, rotisserie around his, like, size. Yeah, physical touch isn't touch isn't good for your lower lumbar, I don't think.
No. I like it, though.
I'll risk back problems for it. And as will I.
Well, anyways, are you guys, this Next Gen Bravo show does look interesting. It does.
I think it's going to, I don't know. I mean, you just need a bunch of like young kids who just kind of don't know anything yet.
Well, we've never really dived into reality TV nepotism. Yeah, I know.
This will be interesting. And this is like a first.
I like Brooks a lot. He's sweet.
Meredith's son. Meredith's son.
Yeah, I've never met him. Or Brookmark.
He seems like a classy guy. I like him.
I think he's very pretty.

Who is Charlie Zaccour?

Zaccour?

Am I pronouncing that right?

Probably not.

Zach Auer?

Zach Auer is a crypto trader and private investor.

Who is he the kid of?

I think Kim, no.

No.

I think is he dating Kim's daughter?

I think dating Kim's daughter.

They're not all Nebo babies.

No.

Some of them are just like friends from school.

Well, this guy apparently witnessed some sort of like crypto attempted kidnapping. Anyways.
Was it Sherry Papini? Have you been following the Sherry Papini case at all? I just, since my wife has become a true crime junkie. The Sherry Papini was, which one was that? She's like the real life gone girl who faked her kidnapping.
Oh my God. Yeah, that was nuts.
There's a new documentary out on Max. And there was a documentary on Hulu that seemed to be, they called it like Keith's, her, I guess now ex-husband.
It was like his version. Now it's like her version.
We just finished it. It's quite interesting.
Did y'all follow any of the Karen Reed stuff? Yeah. We just did a deep dive on that.
Did you? Oh my God. Go listen to that on disrespect.
Do you think so? Do you? No. No, I don't think so either.
I think they have such a loose case against her and it's all just a bunch of law enforcement. I think she should be acquitted.
I think the state has done a terrible job of proving her innocence. I think these cops- Her guiltiness.
Well, have done some poor police work and maybe even have some corruption. I still don't think that means she didn't do it.
And I think two things can be true at the same time. And the story of her innocence is just far less believable.
Too many things have to come together for this conspiracy as opposed to like, she got drunk, accidentally hit her ex-husband and like boyfriend, a boyfriend and, and, and killed him. I think that I lean more towards she didn't, but I'm not 100% she didn't, but either way to

convict someone of murder too on this

state's case, it's just not there.

There's so much reasonable doubt, so

no thank you. I think because she had

left him stranded knowing that he was maybe

locked out of the house or couldn't get in,

but didn't think it would result. I don't know.

Who knows? I think maybe she knows something else,

but I don't think, based on all of the

TikTokers? No, no. The people, like the people that were testifying, like the experts on like the physics of how it could happen.
It's just like, how? Like crash reconstructionists. Yeah.
I was just like, I don't, I don't know. Like they all reenacted it.
And then it was like, well, you look like you're still fine. After that.
Like he got booped with the taillight and did a like cartoon, like spin and collapse. And then they're like, that is what.
And then like asphyxiated. And then his black eyes.
And then the dog attacked his arm. The dog bite.
And then the dog mysteriously just rehomed the dog. But that's still more believable than why would these people kill him? It is also crazy.
They're wasted. Yeah.
I don't think they meant to. I think they got in a fight and he stumbled out and fell and probably hit his head.
And that's what I think was more likely that happened. I definitely think there was an accident and he ended up dying and they were all like, holy fuck, we're a bunch of cops and a bunch of cops' wives.
Like, we got to cover this up. We got to a way.
And everyone, including the kids, have all, like, stuck to their story. Why didn't the cops go in the house that morning? If someone dies on the lawn, why on earth did a bunch of police officers not say, Do you think OJ did it? Yes.
But there was a lot of shitty... What are you talking about? My point is, he got off

because they were able to prove

all the shitty police work

that did or didn't happen.

My point is,

bad police work

doesn't prove someone's innocence.

Yeah, but bad police work

can also prove someone

to be guilty when they're not.

Did you watch Outcry?

What the hell was that?

No, what was that?

Oh my gosh.

It's on Showtime.

You need to watch it. It's based...
Yeah, just watch it. karen when you get acquitted because i think you'll get acquitted um we would love to have you on the show truly and wait is the is the second trial happening right i haven't heard the commonwealth has rested their case and now it's it's their turn so she's like she might testify could get crazy yeah i think it's just because she's not really a likable person.
Yeah. That people are like, I think it's easier to believe the worst in someone that you just don't care for.
Yeah. See, I think the opposite.
I think it's more fun to believe her innocence because that's the more salacious story. It's more salacious to think a bunch of cops are colluding.
We've all had a bad experience, whether it's just a pullover or a cop is rude to us. you know it's just it's more fun to believe i think it's really hard for a woman to come overcome not being likable in the court of public opinion and she she's i think she's pretty likable i don't she's not she's very she likes the attention she loves the attention she really is into her self you know fuck me anyway uh the new cast of love island is upon us Have you seen these people? Oh, yeah.
I watched the whole promo that introduced them all. They're all very sexy.
We have Ucilla? Am I saying that right? Ulyssa. Ulyssa.
It's very season six coded. I was about to say, do you feel like they tried to find lookalikes? They're like, who is our...
P.P.G. Leah.
Who is our Leah Who is our Cordell Who is our Serena Who is our Kendall No they literally have a guy on there He's like I'm a short king I'm like that sounds familiar Wasn't he wearing like a cowboy hat Not that one That was a different one That one kind of gets He gets Cordell Jeremiah Sexy. He says he's a really good communicator.
I do remember that. Does he also say he's a liar? Well, not hot.
Well, you know, he says he's three out of four times good guy. Do they have like bios? Do they have like fun facts or anything? Yeah, so Jeremiah's fun fact is that he's a model who just starred in a true religion campaign.
True religion?

I didn't know true religion was still around.

That's cool.

I feel like only like mega church pastors were true religion genes these days.

Yeah.

Is that a recession indicator?

I feel scared about that.

I was having a moment a while ago.

So I think it's just the resurgence.

Okay.

Yeah.

Like 90s fashion is on its way back.

But it's also giving Cordell the like, I want to choose its sponsorship. It's like, my fun fact, I just modeled for true religion.
Yes. Should we go back to you, Lyssa? I think we need to do her fun fact.
All right. So, she's a mermaid.
She's a, yeah, she. She's an entrepreneur who works in real estate, hospitality, and luxury and business.
So she works in what?

That's like 40 different.

I guess she has a lot of jobs.

She's rich.

She's from Miami, Florida.

She hangs out with rich guys on their boats.

There we go.

That's what that means.

That is what that's code for.

Sorry.

She has a residency at Sexy Fish.

Chelly.

According to the promo, she's big into astrology,

and she will be judging men based on their star signs. Hell yeah.
That's reliable. Hell yeah.
That'll work. Oh, I'm into that.
It's worked for you. No, it sure hasn't, but I like it.
I like to watch it unfold. Perfect.
Is this our quiet, mysterious guy? This is our guy who jumps into the pool and has a temper tantrum. Oh, this is our Rob.
He looks like- How tall is he? He looks like Lucas a little bit. Oh, he's got a little Lucas gauge to him.
Oh, yeah, he does. Nicholas Van Steenberg.
They all kind of look short. Is a prereq to have a last name you can't pronounce? What is going on here? Van Steenberg.
Aren't they always kind of short kings? Is it Nicholas or Nichols? Nichols? Nicholas. It is Nichols.
Are they all from Florida? Except for true religion guy. He's from LA.
Wait, what are his fun facts? Fun fact, you might recognize him for his modeling work. We don't.
I don't, but according to his Instagram, he also has a degree in nursing. Hi.
Florida Atlantic University. Okay, Gaylord F go I kind of like him Not subscribing to social norms Yes Love I wouldn't mind waking up from anesthesia and seeing He said I'm smart and hot He's definitely my type Yeah same And I like the cowboy too, but anyway.
Oh, is he a cowboy?

No, he's coming up.

Decater?

Oh, okay.

Alondria.

Decanter.

Decanter.

Oh, never heard of that place.

No, it is Decater.

It is Decater.

Yeah, I was about to say, I think it's Decater.

Is it?

Why is it spelled like that?

There's a spelling error on this doc, but it is Decater.

Yeah, I was like, Decanter is not a place in Alabama that I know.

I was going to say, you're from the South, you don't know Decanter. You've never visited Decanter? Her fun fact is she's a graduate of Tuskegee? Tuskegee? Tuskegee? Yes, thank you.
Tuskegee University. This guy.
This is Cordell. Yes.
This is Cordell. I like, but he's a cowboy.
He grew up on, he said he learned to ride a horse before he learned to walk hot I think that's what he said what does Tattoo say it says something not kill something what are his fun facts Taylor he was on the cover of Wonderland in 2024 for Louis Vuitton oh my god oh that's cool like lots of models. Well, yeah, you're half naked the entire time on the show.
You better be a model. That's why I tune in for all my- Reality TV is full of hot people that maybe like dabbled in modeling a la, you know.
Tom Schwartz. But these guys are like model models.
Yeah, Wonderland. Yeah, Wonderland.
That's legit. He's hot.
I like that he's sticking to the bit with his cowboy hat. I was going to say to her, I'm like, I mean this with all due respect and just full jealousy of that not being my path.
But I'm like, they do also need to be able to take off work for two months to be in a house dating a bunch of people. So I'm like, I thought they'd hire a bunch of models.
Yeah, models don't have a flexible schedule. Salesforce gave me some time off.
I feel like you would be into him. The cowboy? Yeah.
Except for the fact that he's a cowboy. I love a cowboy.
She loves a cowboy. I watched all those seasons of Yellowstone and 1880.
Were you a Rip or a Casey or a Kevin Costner? All of them. I understood it from that.
And Rip. And what's the old guy's name? Him.
Kevin Costner? No. All of them.
No, the other. Lloyd.
Was it Lloyd? Oh, yeah. Lloyd.
I love Lloyd. Lloyd could get it.
Lloyd could get it. Huda.
Huda. Raleigh.
Huda Mustafa. All right.
Fun fact. She's an influencer and trainer who sells online coaching.
Given her dedication to her fitness journey, we don't see Huda giving up easily on Love Island USA, which could see her making it all the way to the final with her man. Do we see her working out with the men? With these men? Yeah.
By working out, she means like... Because she's a trainer.
Oh. You know, like she's going to be out there.
She's going to be leading it. She's like, hey guys, I do curls.
Yeah. And with curls Yeah With those guys I don't know Maybe if Like I think she wants Like a big brawny Maybe that guy Oh That's your type Easy I mean you keep You keep saying Every single person But it's also possible I'm just trying to gauge you I don't know what she's into These days Northville Yeah he's hot Is that Michigan Or Michigan? What's MI? Michigan.
Michigan. Austin Shepard.

Okay, what are his...

He looks tall from...

But his fun fact is that he recently moved to Florida,

so I guess he's now in Florida.

Floridian.

Okay, what...

That's his fun fact?

That's his fun fact?

That is his fun fact.

Oh, he's boring.

Okay, geography.

Dig a little deeper with these...

Can we get the Bachelor producers

to pull some fun facts out of these people?

This girl...

I need a fear. What is her name? I really, Bella.
Bella. Bella A.
I like her. She's cute.
I bet it's Bella. Her package, intro package was very cute.
And she seems very likable. Bella.
What's her fact? Her fun fact is she works at her parents' coffee shop when she's not busy modeling. Yeah, they are all models.
There we go. It's like they're like, we need you to have a little bit more of a humble approach to this.
Like, we can't just say, like, you're a model. She's like, I did help.
Okay, I, like, occasionally will ring up a latte at the coffee shop. I like to take walks.
But all of these people will have stuff in common. So whoever she's with is going to have to make good bring to her dressing room Oh yeah That's a big thing That's a big component This is a short king Ace How short is short? His fun fact is that he's a content creator With one million followers on TikTok And his official website describes him as A DJ, comedian, model, choreographer, YouTuber And professional party host Oh.
Oh my God. I think we're gonna like him.
Renaissance man. And also I'm surprised as so, how chronically online I am that I haven't heard of him.
So I'm feeling a little disappointed in myself. Well, the internet is a big place.
Wait, was that everyone from Love Island? That's the original cast. I mean, we don't know who the bombshells are gonna be.
I'm a little surprised that they didn't cast any, like a a la Rob, you know, how Rob was a bombshell from a previous season and that seemed to really pop. You don't know that that's not going to be.
I'm a little surprised that they didn't cast any, like a a la Rob, you know how Rob was a bombshell from a previous season and that seemed to really pop. Yeah, but you don't know that that's not going to happen.
Yeah. Well, Rob was part of the original cast of last season.
The original, but he could be the first bombshell. Yeah, but like a bombshell, that's what I'm saying.
Rob was a bombshell and then they moved him into the original cast. Like there's no point in bringing a bombshell back to be a bombshell again.

They do that though. You think Rob's going

back? No, no, no, no, no. But Rob was

Casa Amor and he was brought in

in the OG cast. But I could see them

bringing in the first round

bombshell as somebody we've seen before. What's a bombshell

or cast member from a previous

season that you would love to see? Someone from

last season maybe? Honestly, all the guys

from last season. Rob at Casa Amor.

Okay, here's the thing. It's because I don't

chronically watch this like Katie is and you guys, but

Thank you. that you would love to see? Someone from last season, maybe? Honestly, all the guys from last season.
Rob, I call some more. Okay, here's the thing.
It's because I don't chronically watch this like Katie is and you guys, but Rob, I actually just was scrolling the other day. I saw him in a bush somewhere with a snake at night, like snake gathering.
I was like, who the fuck? He's hot. And then I was like, oh, this is that Love Island guy that loves snakes.
But was he the first bombshell? Because he was with Leah at the very beginning. No, he was OG.
No, he was an OG cast. Okay, so he was OG.
He was in Casa more season five. Oh, okay.
I think I missed that one. Have they started filming yet or not yet? No, it's June 3rd.
Have you seen any previews of Ariana's outfits? No. I kind of want to be seen.
Oh, you have? You have? I have. Okay.
I've seen a couple there. I mean, she crushes it with the looks.
I like to see it. Has she met any of the cast? Yeah.
When it's in slow-mo. What does she think? Yeah, she's super excited about the season.
She's really excited. She's going to look fucking fire.
And I think it's going to be great. I mean, I love that she genuinely loves the show and had for years.
And this is just like. Are you going to watch this year? I am just because of her.
It's a lot. I get it.
I mostly watch her parts and fast forward that's how we got into it last season and we're like oh my god this is really good it was really good i mean you can it's kind of like you can have it on and sort of pay attention to it and if you need to come back to something you can but like i just like wondering what they're doing because it's in real time it's so weird like what are they doing right now oh my god they're sleeping watching the monitors while they're sleeping and we remember after we did the after sun we were sitting there eating like mcdonald's and i look over on the screen and it's live feed and they're all just like asleep i'm like this is this feels like such a science experiment like it's so bizarre but it was so like cool being there because i love the show so seeing like being that right next to the villa like that and then where after sun is it's kind of like on this hill above it so you can see down into it. Like you can see the fire pit.

It was very cool.

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Are you going to go back?

I wish.

I mean, last time they gave me about a three-day notice.

Perfect.

You never know.

It could still happen.

It could still, there's still hope.

You have time.

Yeah, I told them.

I was like, I'll come back anytime for reals.

It's paradise.

It's just so far.

Yeah, that was a quick three-day trip to Fiji.

Yeah, and losing a whole day in between and coming back and then losing my mind it sucks coming back going there not so bad you come back on the same day that you already live yeah and then when you leave there you skip it exactly it's tough it was a tough turnaround yeah the Virgin Islands are like right there that's LA. Cabo, yeah.
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Because Us Weekly doesn't pay the monthly subscription. Don't tell them.
Anyways, go to Valfouse Plus, or if you listen to uh you can it just sign up right there check it out uh you get your uh update specials or our ask nick updates from all those crazy stories i will say this was a tough watch tough watch for all you uh people who ride hard for uh the ladies of this cast i saw someone uh make a tiktok and they said that if you're fans of the sierra amanda page're like one of the toxic people on TikTok. Because it was like, you can't realize that these are three mean girls like being mean to the one newbie.
And I honestly, I saw it this episode. It was rough.
And then on the fans, the supporters, the alleged toxic people on TikTok, their version is this is Lexi's fault because it's like they their their explanation is they clearly don't like Lexi. It's just like, well, yeah, we we we get it.
But like, no, I think their take on it is like this was a four week relationship or six week relationship. Like, why is she so upset? Why is she making it seem like it was some, like, two-year ordeal? Where all of them laughing while, like, talking about Toegate.
And it's like, he cheated on Lexi and she's sitting right there. And if that was Ciara, like, all hell would have been broken fucking loose.
Yeah, Ciara still isn't talking about her feelings about West.

She's still not talking about...

Well, she's still talking about the press he did.

Like him going on his

media tour still pisses her off.

But Lexi can't be upset

that her boyfriend cheated on her.

And all of the people there are laughing.

And it's like, but you want respect

when he does a press tour

and mentions your name? And why does this cast seem to decide who can't and can't talk to press or do podcasts? Like, well, they say it so condescendingly, like on your press tour, they act as they have these rules for their cast. I mean, again, you have a you have a young woman who came on not knowing anyone on this cast, a newbie, younger than all these people, new.
And again, I think the whole girl's girl, as Katie Maloney mentioned earlier, is the dumbest shit ever. It's just a dumb saying.
But when Lexi came into the house, her focus was on Jesse not making friendships with these girls. How do you know what her focus was walking in the house? She walked in the house and met a guy she was attracted to

and started liking him.

And that's a crime.

But what I'm saying is while she's focused on Jesse,

Paige, Amanda and Sierra are having their own summer.

So it's like all of a sudden now it's like because Jesse fucked up

that it's like these girls don't have her back,

but like they weren't like bonding.

What is the definition of a girl's girl?

I don't know, but I'd love to stop hearing it.

It'd be same, same.

And again, I'm a judgy motherfucker.

I keep my circles small.

I don't know but i'd love to stop hearing it same same and again i'm a judgy motherfucker i keep my circles small i am loyal to my small group of friends just own that just own the fact that like they are a clicky group that like doesn't fuck with most people and if you're not one of us we're not gonna fine don't all season long self-identify yourself as like usually for the girlies.

You know, I think this has less to do with what has happened all season and more of like what happened at this reunion, because it has been how many months since they stopped filming. Like they've all gone on.
You know, Sierra has been on Watch What Happens Live. Lexi's done her podcast tour.
Jesse's like they've all gone out and promoted this season of Summer House and talked about some storylines of what happened.

But they had a chance to come to this reunion and be like you know we love jesse we're team jesse but we don't support the cheating and they didn't do that they like made it like it was so fucking funny that he was in that room with all these naked people like getting his toe sucked while lexi's sitting there like in the back and forth between Sierra and Jesse of like like I don't want to fuck Jesse he's like come on Sierra she's like shut that up and he's like Sierra your hair looks so good like it was just so disrespectful on so many levels of like you're doing that in front of this girl who clearly is like upset about what happened in her relationship with this man And you have just like no consciousness of that whatsoever. Leaning into the sexual chemistry of your platonic friendship is the most, while that, while your friend is like pursuing a relationship with someone else, someone who is in the same industry as you, who like many people could see as like someone you might want to compete with subconsciously is the most pick me energy ever.
How can anyone disagree with that? And I'm just and that's fine. But like and listen, I've been a pick me before.
I've done things for attention, but it's just the way they all act as if they are incapable of that type of behavior. And there are so critical of other people who give that type of behavior.
Wait, so what did y'all think of the reunion? Those were our thoughts. What did y'all think? I enjoyed it.
I love seeing people like, they are mean girls. They're reality TV stars.
They're mean girls. And I love to see, and I personally enjoy it.
Yeah. That's the thing.
That's why I'm like, I'm not mad at Paige or Sierra or Amanda for being mean about it. I'm like, yeah, give me more of it.
It's creating good storylines and things. Lean in.
Be worse. What I love about Paige is that she thinks she's better than most people and she backs it up.
I just would like her to own that aspect a little more often i love it when people are unselfaware on tv it makes for great television and so i'm just seated watching them all like be dumb it's great that's my take on the reunion and i think jesse's a loser well but he's a very charming affable loser that i would want to hang out with yeah i mean he's yeah he's very. I get why they want to be friends with them.
I get why they're this more like, you know what? We need a couple of fun guys in our group and we already have hot women. And like, we don't need a young girl who's still figuring herself.
Lexi's so like us seven years ago. Like we don't have time for, I get it.
I think it's just mean girl. I think the thing with what really entertains me about the dynamic is that Jesse, like Jesse's friendship with these women is so to me, it reads and maybe this is like this is just my take on it of like they do not respect Jesse.
They just find him entertaining and funny. And he's like their little play thing.
Like that's how like for Sierra, he's her little play thing. And she's not like respecting him in that way of like, no, I'm not going to fuck you.
Like you are just, for my entertainment and enjoyment because I know you will flirt with me and give me attention, I'm going to give it back to you because it's fun. And so then, and I think to her, she's probably like, that's obvious.
And then for Lexi, Lexi's like, well, wait, what the fuck is going on here? Because she doesn't have that set dynamic with him. So obviously she's really upset about it.
But then to Sierra, she's like, why are you mad? That's not what this is. But then I don't think that Lexi is wrong to feel that way.
But it's just like Sierra acting as if Lexi has no reason to be upset is the most delusional thing I've seen, given just the fact that we still talked about her and Wes a year fucking later. Yeah, it's crazy.
It was honestly fascinating, though, Sierra talking about her family dynamic and talking about her mom and how her mom is per Sierra's POV,, has a history of dating men unworthy of her.

And it just seemed kind of ironic.

I don't know, I felt for her in that moment.

I totally felt for her.

It was just more like...

I mean, Andy asked the question,

do you think that's played a role

in your dating choices?

And she was like, yeah.

But her answer was, yeah, that's why I'm more...

Sierra sees herself as incredibly picky and has high standard.

The men she dates suggests otherwise.

I mean, Austin and West are definitely way below her what she could get.

That's for sure.

I'm also like West did come to the reunion with an apology prepared.

So it's not like he didn't know that this was going to be brought up again either.

He did.

And then he was like.

I thought he had it on himself pretty well.

I think he did great.

And then I think when Sierra was like, if you can talk to the press,

Thank you. She said his hair looks better.

No, I totally think that like they needed to do that.

That was great for them. I just think it was hypocritical for her to like still want to push that into West,

but not have any sympathy of Lexi with her man cheating on her in the house.

Like just thinking it's so funny.

Well, I feel I felt bad for Lexi when everybody was laughing because obviously Andy Andy made a point to point out being like, and the only person not laughing is Lexi. I'm like, I do think that the way that the conversation of Toegate and even the name Toegate being brought up, it's kind of like one of those things where it's like, I'm sure it's been a joke.
Oh, it's so silly. Running throughout.
So I'm like, at the same time, I don't think anybody was thinking about Lexi's feelings or trying to make her feel bad. But I'm like, the entire situation is just so batshit.
You went into a room for 37 minutes, got your toes off. No, it's a slap in the face to everyone watching the show.
Like, we're not this fucking stupid. Like, and Emeril being like, I have no reason to lie for him.
Like, bro. Your job's on the line.
Come on. He came in at the end.
He was like, they were all just naked, but just like having casual conversation. And you decided to lay on the bed.
It's just that Lexi showed up. We didn't know anything about her before she got casted.
It's also a double-sized bed. Like four people sitting on this? Like, you're getting cozy.
You're close to a boob. Regardless.
What is that nursery rhyme? That's like there were four in the bed and the little one said, roll over. Somebody did that.
Lexi is this young woman who demonstrates the type of qualities that all of these women should want to get behind. She is poised.
She seems to know her self-worth. She speaks up for herself.
She has a strong will. She came on our show and conducted herself wonderfully.
She's been gracious. She doesn't seem to be all that messy.
She speaks her truth. She'll stand up for herself.
I don't think that's messy. And it's just the fact that those qualities are the qualities that these women seem to dislike.
I just find to be fascinating and kind of hypocritical. It's just such an eye roll for them to identify themselves as a girl's girl when they're more pick me.
I do believe Craig never bought that engagement ring. Craig definitely never bought that engagement ring.
He didn't, no. I absolutely believe Paige there.
We had to pause it because Connor's like, what do they mean? And I'm like, because when you buy a ring, it's already going to depreciate the second you step out of the store because it's custom. If it's what page wants page doesn't want a manufactured like standard ring she's gonna want like something engraved in it this is my diamonds i want the baguettes like you can't return that and be like well you could sell this under craig's used what i need i need to know the place when he's like i took it back to the guy this morning who's the guy who's the guy can i vouch for that name this guy to be like oh yeah here's the ring like yeah craig like that's and where is he even when she said the whole like you took your girlfriend to return my ring i was like well you know well also like when when you get broken up with you know maybe there's not an engagement ring on the line but that's a very common thing to be like well i guess i should just return this thing i got you you know like the last ditch effort it's a very common thing to be like, well, I guess I should just return this thing I got you, you know? The last ditch effort.
Did you want this Birkin? Or do I need to return it today? That happens all the time in a breakup. Connor couldn't understand the concept.
He was like, wait, so is he saying that if she saw the ring that she would stay like get married to him? And I was like, yes, that is the delusional statement that is being made right now. Yeah, him being like, I wish you would have seen the ring first before you decided to break up with me.
You know who we need? We need Emma. We need Lisa Barlow and Bronwyn's jeweler from Salt Lake City.
She would definitely spill some tea. That messy bitch.
She would definitely be like, yep, never seen him. He's never been here before.
I wouldn't put it past Craig to

find a jeweler to corroborate his story

even if it was made up. Honestly, yeah.

Even when they replayed the Watch What Happens Live

thing, I was like, just the way that it was just like, yeah, no,

I just went to the pen and returned it. I was like,

no, you did not. Oh, yeah.
Him shifting

all in his seat. I just

returned it this morning. Yeah.

Tell me you're uncomfortable. I'm lying.

Where does Craig go from here

on Southern Charm?

I feel like everyone already knew he was a liar

Thank you. Turn it this morning.
Yeah. Tell me you're uncomfortable.
I'm lying. Where does Craig go from here on Southern Charm? Like, I feel like everyone already knew he was a liar, but now everyone really just knows.
Oh, I'm sure they're going to just like- You cannot trust a single word that comes out of that man's mouth. They're going to breathe through this.
He's a storyteller. I just find what's fascinating about Summer House is that, again, I would say Lexi, West, and Jessie, they represent what Summer house is supposed to be and honestly everyone in this og cast i'm you know find a new job i'll follow that show and then yeah they should bring in new young people that want to be messy that want to hook up in her house like even to kyle's point about emerald he was like that is kind of what the whole point of a summer house but it just it felt weird because no one else was doing it.
But it felt like the fuck is Emeril doing here? Like, you gross. We don't do that because it's like we've been like with these people who aren't doing that for so long.
And the irony of it all, too, is that it's like in the first season, how we meet Amanda is because Kyle sneaks Amanda like into the house and they go like skinny dipping and they're having sex and it's just like it's waking up everybody in the house and it's just like you guys were

Emeril season one justice for Emeril that's all I have to say like a sweet man he does also Nick

pointed this out but the fact that Lexi the new girl was the only one to be like we could have

done better like we could have asked you more questions yeah that was crazy yeah that was

telling that like no one else who'd been there not even Kyle his buddy could have been like yeah

Thank you. to be like, we could have done better.
Like, we could have asked you more questions. Yeah, that was crazy.
Yeah, that was telling. That like no one else who'd been there, not even Kyle, his buddy could have been like, yeah, bro, like I definitely could have helped you like navigate some relationships a little bit better.
No one else said anything but like. They basically casted three new people because they felt like they didn't want to do their jobs anymore and they decided to be a bunch of dicks to this new cast.
Like that was the theme of the season. It's just like, we're going to cast a bunch of people

we're not friends with and use them

and throw them out like trash when we're done with them.

What?

I mean, that's a take.

Wait, what?

The original cast, they casted Emeril, Lexi, and Bailey,

and they used them.

They used them for the stuff they weren't willing to do

and threw them to the wayside. Who used them? who used them producers the og cast this group of people how did they use emerald amanda like we know amanda like per lexi was the one who was like hey do you want to come on the show i guess kyle is the one who knew emerald like they found you know they found these people and asked him hey do you want to be a part of this show with no real interest in becoming friends with these people or connecting with these people.
But even when Alex Baskin was here, he was saying that like when they're recasting a show, they typically go to the cast and ask if you have any recommendations. But that like.
I guess what I'm saying. It's just like they didn't cast people they wanted to become friends with to bring into the group to like round out the group.
Like they didn't bring like Paige's best friend from home or like someone that they were actually friends with. Like this was clearly Amanda and Lexi weren't friends.
Like they were acquaintances. They'd had, they've gone to lunch before, grabbed a coffee.
But like to Lexi's point, when Amanda's sitting there being like, oh my God, I always wanted them. Like, I just need them to hook up knowing that your friend Lexi is dating this man is like yeah I agree

I do agree with you guys on that

I think they definitely like

set the two of them up to kind of just be

the fall guy for the season when

they are all kind of like past

I mean if I watch next season and Sierra

is still complaining about Wes I'm turning it off

it's like I think by next season that's fair

I think this season I think this season

it was like well yeah there's gonna be a blow up from it

their dynamic has changed she's gonna have feelings about it

the reunion I think is just like a

Thank you. I think by next season, that's fair.
I think this season, it was like, well, yeah, there's going to be a blowout from it. Their dynamic has changed.
She's going to have feelings about it. The reunion, I think, is just like a, we're going to talk about it at the reunion, get that closure, and then I don't want to hear about it anymore.
But we did talk about it all season. Are you convinced it's not going to happen? I'm not convinced it's not going to happen.
I'm just saying I hope it doesn't. I was agreeing with you, actually.
Progress. Anything else before we want to move on to Brianne? I just want to say, I thought we were all going to dress in summer florals today.
And we're green. Okay, that's true.
I wear a light color. Okay.
I dressed for our next interview. Yeah.
I just kind of feel like a clown. But he's kind of giving the chorus.
Yeah. Yeah, I'm giving it's after Memorial Day and I'm ready for summer pant.
Yeah. No, you guys are all giving classy summertime entrance.
You can't wear white after Labor Day. Yeah.
Exactly. This was Memorial Day.
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Run it back. Anyways, Bree Ann Howie is up next.
The star of Ginny in Georgia, Bree Ann Howie, who we get to chat with. She is a very talented actress who does an incredible Southern accent.
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And we can talk about motherhood, her acting career, how it's blown up, a fun conversation with Breanne, and her love for reality TV. Jenny and Georgia season three premieres this Thursday on Netflix.
Check it out. I'm sure many of you are big fans and you are well aware of it.
It's a really great show. It's fun.
If you haven't checked it out and you like a kind of, how would you describe it? It's like mystery. Murder mystery.
You're more girls with murder. Yeah.
Yeah. High stakes.
In like an unsuspected badass lead that she plays who's a little messy. Yeah.
You know, a little problematic. You root for her, but you know that you probably shouldn't.
But then like you do, because if you were in that situation, what would you do? Got a little Breaking Bad element to it. Yeah.
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Brianne, welcome. Hi.
How are you? I'm wonderful. Thank you so much for having me.
We're so excited to have you. Oh my gosh.
Yeah, we're so excited. Been big fans, huge fans of Ginny and Georgia.
Oh my God, thank you. It's such a fascinating show because the character you play is so dynamic.
Sure is. First of all, as a young mother yourself, it's a kind of weird question.
People often ask, how do you relate to your character? I imagine a lot of ways you don't relate to your character. Yeah, no, especially because I was playing mom roles before I was a mom.
So it was more just relating to it in the sense of I have four younger siblings. They're my whole world.
I would do anything for them. So that was the closest I could get.
But then, yeah, now I am actually a mom. So it's very different.
Do you feel like you're, like you act maybe a little bit better because you are now a mom? You know what happened. And I think, okay, so look, my daughter, she'll be two in a month.
So we're still like, I mean, not totally beginning phases, but like she's still very little. Yeah.
I just felt like I was such a sap. Like I just felt like I was so weepy all season.
And like that, I was like, God damn it, Breanne. damn it Brianne like no no no that wasn't the move like so hopefully that will change I think it was just like the first year going back at it like just back to work and everything but I felt like it made me too soft almost interesting which isn't great like everything is too relatable almost like some of the stuff for this upcoming season it gets so dark in my opinion, I was maybe too sensitive this past season.
It broke my heart. She murders people.
Yes. Yes.
And like, yeah, wait till you see, yeah, like halfway through this season, everything that goes on. I mean, Georgia, like all of the consequences come to the surface this season.
Like she gets in a lot of trouble. So one thing I was curious curious about, because obviously, well, we're hoping you don't relate much to your character.
But as a new parent myself, there is like, and maybe it's a dad thing. I imagine Natalie has some real impressive mama line energy.
Very protective of her family. Absolutely.
And I wondered if like, while you don't obviously relate to some of,

of, of Georgia's antics,

there must be an element of like the way she goes about protecting her family

and surviving in a way that obviously as a good human being,

you would never do.

But is there,

is there ever an element when you're playing the character where you at least appreciate her resiliency and just like how she's, you know, she really will at the end of the day protect her family? Oh, a hundred percent. I mean, I, like first and foremost, of course, Georgia's very polarizing.
But like as someone playing Georgia, I would never judge her. Like in no way, shape or form.
Yeah, I have to, I love her and respect her. All of her shortcomings are only because she has a very limited toolbox.
But I admire the amount of space she takes up. Like, I feel like, who knows what I could have accomplished if I took up that much space all the time for my whole life.
So I love that about her. And I love, like, the first, when I read the pilot for the first time, it was the scene where she like punches the kid in the face.
Well, she doesn't really punch him. But like she twists his nose a little bit and like the, you know, her son punches him.
But like I went a little far for sure. For sure.
But like I've had with my siblings told me someone was mean to them at school or something the rage i feel inside and

i can only imagine once my daughter's old enough oh me at the park with my 15 month old i there will be i don't know what it is about six seven year old who just they think she's so disgusting and will like run from her being like ew baby baby this little boy tried to like hit with the swing, and it took everything out of me not to assault a child.

You know, in the most respectful way possible, of course.

But his parents were on their phone, not paying attention.

And I'm like, your kid is a terror on this playground.

Unfortunately, in those moments, we can't do what Georgia would do.

Exactly.

Has there been anything that you've taken from your character parenting wise and related to your real life daughter? You know, I mean, probably only bad things, unfortunately. Like I, before I was a mom, I thought like the most annoying thing about Georgia was how all over Jenny she was and she's always in her space and like the entitlement that she expects to know everything about Jenny.
I was like, I mean, that's, it's crossing a line. This is toxic, blah, blah, blah.
But now that I have an almost two-year-old, I'm like, nope, she's going to go to UCLA. We're going to have lunch every day.
She's going to tell me everything. I need to know.
I need to know everything. No.
Yeah. I'm going to go to bed reading her text messages.
A hundred percent. She's not allowed to go do.
No. I think before, yeah, we're parents.
It's very easy to like talk about what you would never do when you see other parents crossing boundaries and then you're in it and you're just like, well. I'm like, of course she's going to watch Elmo right now.
What are you talking about? Of course we're doing screen time. And before I'm like, no, we will never have a phone out.
Ever. Ever.
And now I'm like, cue up Miss Rachel. It's time.
Get the the ipad yeah and now she goes ipad and i'm like oh no i imagine when you like do go into season one obviously like the acting space is highly competitive and i think you know as a you're always as happy to like book the job right yes and then you get picked up for a season two and i'm'm sure you have utmost respect for the writers in the room and things like that. But as a character on the show, as a season matures, is there a balance between the writers going to you and getting your input about the character? Or are you very much like, hey, that's their lane.
I'll stay in mine. How does that dynamic work as a show matures? It's an interesting point because it's also like this will be my first time going into a fourth season, like doing our third season.
That was my first time doing a third season of anything. Yeah.
So you can't anticipate where these things are going or where the story is going, especially. I tend to stay in my lane.
I appreciate. I think it's every now and then they will ask, of course.
And maybe on other shows, it is a little bit more of a collaboration at times. But I think for us with Ginny and Georgia, it's so specific, especially like with Georgia and her cadence.
I love the way that they write for Georgia. It's so beautiful.
So for the most part, I pretty much, they've gotten us this far. I really just trust them and I am impressed and

I don't know how they come up with this stuff. Our creator and writer's room is amazing.

Are you the type of actor who, like, do you want to watch it back? No, you don't.

No, I do because I think it's so important and like we have to, you know, come talk about the

show and like it's nice to know. You do so many different versions, so many different takes.
It's

fun to see, of course, how it all shakes out. But I, for sure, I still struggle with being objective.
I don't know how people do that. It's so hard.
I'll still be like, oh, I wish I did it this way. Or why'd they choose that take? Or I'm holding that thing weird.
Or like, whatever. I don't know.
For sure. How did you prepare to play a character like Georgia? So, I mean, this is where I feel lucky that like, there.
So like I grew up with a young single mom. It's just was kind of kismet.
There's so much of my mom and her energy in this character. Like I feel like I kind of grew up as Ginny a little bit.
Like my mom had me at 21. We didn't have any boundaries.
So, so much of what was on the page, I could relate to. It it just wasn't I think a lot of what was jarring

in Ginny and Georgia just wasn't that jarring for me I think because like I have had some of

those conversations and I have so many younger siblings with my parents remarried and had more

so I have half siblings but we have larger age gaps so then I've always sort of felt like

an aunt to them also in a way somehow it was just kind of natural do you've always sort of felt like an ant to them also in a way. Somehow it was just kind of natural.
Do you do any sort of character study? Maybe even like you did it in the beginning, but do you like refresh or do you feel like, you know, Georgia to her bones? Definitely, like, with each season, of course, there's more confidence. Like, for season one, we definitely had so many conversations with our creator that, like, weorgia to feel like um you know she was kind of she's the anti-hero a little bit like there's a little tony soprano in there there's a little bit of walt from breaking bad there's a little bit of mary louise parker from weeds and we wanted that she was she's kind of a collaboration of all these things and that when georgia's big mad she's the hulk and that's when we get scary georgia so we do like i guess we did kind of color in all the different versions of georgia because she also takes so many like hard right turns so it's like we're jumping from like scary georgia to like oh goofy georgia yeah to like flirty georgia and then also depending on who georgia's talking to she's a very different person depending on all the men in her life like she responds and acts very differently with all of them and has a different mask on so season one yeah we actually got more specific in that way talking about the character and then it yeah with each season getting like the luxury of getting to go back it stays in you a lot longer i think than i anticipated now that george is in court i i read are you a fan of true crime? Sure am.
Were you able to pull

from any like court cases

that you followed

or just try to like emulate

again just like a houtro maybe?

Well, I know, right?

I'm going to forget the name now,

but while we were shooting,

I mean, are you guys

big true crime people?

Do you remember the case?

No, it's huge.

Okay, the woman,

it's like the Boston police

and Karen Reed.

Karen Reed.

Yes, yes. Oh my God.
Okay. It's on right now.
Karen Reed. Her at trial.
Is it right now? Yes, right now. You guys, I'm so behind.
Okay. She honestly introduced me to it like the other day.
We've been fighting nonstop about it because he's like not on my side anymore. No, no, no.
First, I was totally on her side. First, I was like, oh no, like I've definitely seen a departed.
These cops are crooked. Like she definitely didn't do it.
But then the more I watched, I'm just like. Unfortunately, I know.
I thought it was crazy how, like, I have gotten so many DMs from locals. Really? And they're, like, hairdressers.
And they know the tea. And they're like, she's definitely being framed.
See, that was my first instinct. And that's what got me.
Okay. Which is the perfect segue into Georgia, that the Karen Reed trial was happening.
And in my mind, I was like, Georgia would act like she was being framed, too, for all of this 100%. Oh, 100%.
Like, that's exactly what Georgia would do. Yeah.
Watching the trailer, it kind of reminded me a little Karen Reed a little bit. We're just like this very likable, very charming defendant who you want to believe her.
Well, and she knows what she's doing with her storytelling. And the way she, I don't know, all of the moves she was making were intentional.
And the way you dress and the way you act and the way you lean into the jury. Did you learn a lot about the court system? I mean, I'm sure.
Yeah, a little bit. bit i mean we did that yeah you know you do the

scene so many times you start to figure it out but it is crazy i feel like watching this karen

reed trial yeah there's a lot of like you know don't sit like this don't smile but also maybe

smile a little bit so that you don't look like such a bitch but not so much that you're happy

that you know it's like i feel like there's a lot of there's a lot to think about yeah like

yeah like who's your body language how you're being being perceived. Totally.
There's so many subtleties. I learned that being on reality TV where you're like, oh my God.
When there's a camera on you 24-7, just picking up every little quirk that you have or just your resting face and just how unfortunate that can be and how useful it is to an editor. you're just like your resting face and just how like unfortunate that can be and how useful it is to an editor you're just like yeah do you still feel like have you were you able to shake it yeah i mean i i mean my i guess for better or worse my gift was always just i guess being like oh this is who i am i don't know like it's something i can do about it but it was just more eye.
You know? Like, I suppose as an actor, you get used to seeing yourself on camera playing a role. But before that, I just was like, I wouldn't listen to myself on a voicemail recording.
Those were the days, right? Yeah. And that's the only time you would hear your voice back.
And you're like, that's what I sound like. Ew.
I remember that. Yeah.
It was such a weird thing. And then I'm watching it back.
And you're like, oh my, I've never met this person. Like, oh my, ew.
It's so weird. I hate him too.
Has your husband watched any? Oh, of course. Yeah, he does.
That was my first hint that maybe the show was going to go somewhere. Because Netflix put it in our account before it gets released.
And it was season one. And I told him, I was like, all right, it's in our account.
I was like, I'm going to go watch. I'm going to go watch some.
And he was like, okay, I'll watch with you. And in my head, I'm like, all right, I'll stick around for one.
He watched four in a row with me. And I was like, you i'm gonna go watch some and he's like okay i'll watch with you and in my head i'm like all right i'll stick around for one he watched four in a row with me and i was like you don't have to watch this he's like no like let's watch the next one like what happens next and i was like oh my god we might be on to something yeah well there's something about you mentioned the you know walter and like there's the anti-hero there's something about those types of characters that we love because we may not be ge.
We may not be Walter, but we all are imperfect people who do things that we're not proud of. But we want to believe that we're noble, good people.
And for the most part, we are. And I think sometimes watching those complicated characters that we still want to root for, there's something to relate to, even though maybe we're not relating to them.
I think, too, it's like people who can be victims of circumstance or feel like they fell through the cracks, you root for them in a different way because you really feel like it's not their fault. And the limitations that Georgia has and that all of us have to an extent isn't our fault.
Granted, it's important to work on them. And I think that's what this season does really well.
It's like, okay, we're very aware now of every character's shortcomings. And like, what are we going to do about it, guys? So we finally start to see that this season, which is really cool.
But I think because, I think she's relatable to a lot of people in that way because she is so far from perfect. We love a good meet cute story.
How did you meet your husband? So Matt and I met.

How does this story go?

It was a while ago now.

It was like nine years ago.

Okay, I went to NYU.

Matt went to new school.

We're both from Southern California.

I grew up in Pasadena.

He grew up in Santa Monica.

We both are in New York at the same time.

Never meet.

Both finish school, come back to LA.

I start hanging out with his New York friends

just through mutual friends

and just having a fun kind of party summer. It's the end of the summer.
Matt appears out of nowhere to hang out with his friends. And I'm like, who are you and where have you been? He was studying to take the bar.
So he just went MIA for that summer, but he finally took it, then started like going back out again, had a social life. I was with all of his friends.
We ran into each other four nights in a row and have been together ever since then, basically. But when we got married, it wasn't until we were each saying our vows that he said in his vows that out of the four times we met, the final two, he found out where I was.
They were not on accident. And this whole time I thought it was like very serendipitous.
And like, I can't believe we ran into each other four nights in a row out and about in la i mean your your wedding's a good time it's a safe place to make you stop you know it's like you know i don't know when a good time is gonna be but like what was your reaction i was like just crying i felt silly actually i more just felt silly i was like of course he did Why did I think it was completely random four nights in a row? I have to go apologize to the cash register at Gelson's that I was telling. I have told that story maybe 17 times very publicly.
Of course. But now we have the correct version.
Okay, thank God. What is your, we have daughters in the same almost age.
What like phase is she in right now? I mean, this girl is like running, monologuing. She has new sentences every day.
She is just a sponge. She's very independent.
She was like, like if I, if she's doing something and doesn't want to be interrupted, she'll be like, no, no, no, mama dare. Like she doesn't want you coming close to her to like, I don't know.
Bother her? Touch her or even like let her do it. She wants to like go up and down the stairs by herself, picking out her clothes.
Oh, really? Uh-huh. I mean, and I'll just give her like two options, right? Like this shirt or this shirt.
Yeah. She loves counting.
She can count up to 15, but she will always skip four through seven. Don't know.
I hate those numbers. I don't know.
She loves going to her little baby gym. She loves doing somersaults and stuff.
She still needs help, but we went to the Getty on Sunday, and there were kids doing 10-year-old girls doing cartwheels and stuff. And then she goes and tries to legit do these somersaults.
And she just goes into a yoga pose, kind of like downward dog, and then falls to the right. Perfect.
But it's very sweet and cute. How are her, like, is she a tantrum kind of? Yes.
How are we handling those? We're entering our tantrum phase. We're entering that phase.
I would just start saying no sooner. We didn't really.
We didn't use a lot of no's at first because, I don't don't know, you want them to explore and it's so exciting and they learn something new and you want to try something different to be fun. Like one time we ate dinner outside and then now it's like outside dinner.
And like every night I'm like, well, we can't eat dinner outside every night. I don't want to cave all the time, but then you kind of just cave.
I read some quote that was like, only say no if it's dangerous to like them or someone else i've been thinking about that but then like it's not that bad but then i'm like now she's kind of running the house that's the thing about the internet times you really got to be careful whether it's getting your karen reed news or or like parenting advice because like anything can sound good if if worded correctly it's like a nice soothing voice. Well, you know what?

I think the one thing that's working

instead of like just saying

the same thing 19 times,

like it's bath time,

it's bath time,

it's bath time.

She's like, no, no, no.

It's like, do you want to be a shark?

Yeah.

Let's go be sharks.

Like what have you,

that's working the most.

Wait, that's a great question.

And let's go rebrand it.

Yes.

What is like,

what is your favorite toddler rebrand?

Yeah, that's like,

I saw, and I actually,

okay, I did see this on Instagram,

which is embarrassing,

but it was like some woman said to get her kid her toddler to eat um fish she called it beach chicken and then the kid was like i want beach chicken and i was like that's genius it's all rebranding closer to the toddler age but it's just rebranding and it's like candy yeah and like brushing her teeth. I'm like, let's genius.
It's all rebranding. Closer to the toddler age, but it's just rebranding.
And it's like, yeah, I'm like brushing her teeth. I'm like, let's get the, like.
My sister used to call them sugar bugs. Yeah, exactly.
Let's get the bugs out. Or like she has a really fun toothbrush or like, and like people have told me like when it comes time to potty train, like just cave and get the like Barbie underwear or whatever they want.
That's exciting. I'm like, whatever.
Fine. As a second oldest of 11 i grew up watching a lot of of disney programming and then i haven't in quite some time i've been re-watching a lot of oh yes old disney movies is that something that you guys relate to and have you found that any of them don't hold up like i mean she loves little mermaid the thing about her is like i mean she's obsessed with mo only seen, though, the first like 12 minutes, but like 19 times.
She only likes it when she's a baby. Like she only wants to watch baby Moana.
And we went, we took a flight most recently. So actually, and Moana was on the plane and it was the first time we made it a little bit deeper in.
But I was like, it's kind of scary halfway through. Like some crazy stuff happens.
I feel like most of them are scary and it's i am confused i watched eladon for the first time in a while and i was like i feel too adult yeah what but i watched frozen for the first time really he cried i haven't even watched it yet i honestly i think i've only watched like the first 12 minutes as well so but it was just like she was no longer paying attention and Vic was still sitting watching. Well, you know, like the sister bond that was really charmed by that and it like made me really want to, you know, a sister forever.
I don't know. I was, it's, it, movies, movies get me, you know? I did read, what is it, what is that headline somewhere? Like people who cry in movies are apparently smarter or something? Yes, of course.
Did you up no it's in the group chat yeah like i saw that the people who fall asleep watching true crime as well yeah and people who smoke a lot of weed also are probably very smart it says there's no definitive evidence to suggest that people who cry while watching movies are inherently smarter but there's evidence it's just not evidence the people who do it. Is she closer to you or your husband? Or are y'all kind of equal? I mean, look, she's a little bit closer with me.
But I also, like, I work a lot. And, like, Matt's amazing.
And, like, he can work from home ever since COVID. So I would not be able to work at the capacity that I do without him like being as hands-on as he is.

But, you know, of course, there's like for now, yeah, we want mama.

Did you enjoy when you met Matt, like the fact that he wasn't in entertainment?

For me, it just makes more, I don't know.

It just, yeah, I like the separation of church and state.

I think like the industry can be so weird and it's such a bubble.

And like you can, or I could get really in my head about things. It keeps you grounded in a way.
So much. Like it's very nice.
You have an amazing accent in Georgia. Is that something you had to develop or were you always really good at that type of accent? No, we worked on it.
We had a dialect coach season one, especially to like, of course, for me. And then also two of the main actors are Australian, Felix and Diesel.
So Felix plays the cute boyfriend and then Diesel's George's son or Austin. And then also the Canadians just for a couple of mums here and there.
But no, we had a dialect coach and that was super helpful. Is that fun to do? Or like for me, I'm so bad at accents.
It would just be like such a, it would take up much brain capacity i mean you're already acting yeah which is already like a yeah i would say the one thing like i would normally be able to improvise a lot more but like improvising with the accent is a little bit trickier but kind of going back to what i was saying before too like the way they write georgia the accent is almost built in like the cadence they're so good at it that like I hear the Georgia accent when I'm reading it because I think they write it in like is it easy for you to like slip it into conversation like season one for sure it was like I was going through like with iambic pentameter and like crossing out all the g's and like doing the dip thongs and like stuff that I learned in college that I thought would never come in handy. And I'm like, oh my God, I'm gonna, I like had an old CD from college about like tips and tricks.
And I was like, I don't even think laptops have, I can't insert a CD anywhere anymore. But so yeah, seasons one and two, like one definitely required the most work, but it's cool.
It does stick with you. But yeah, like I'll also go back and like watch or like even listen to some country songs little reba sometime it says here you're watching the studio yes as someone who works very much in the industry have you found it to be like wonderfully like relatable and charming yeah are you guys watching it oh yeah yeah okay the one take we're like the um when he goes to set oh my god the to watch.
I was dying. I have never seen anything so relatable and hysterical and they nailed it.
They did. It just, the stakes are so high.
Like trying to get the light, like making sure you get that magic hour light and in one take and like, I mean, the stakes are, you have the weight of the world on your shoulders. And they nailed it.

I thought it was amazing.

Have you been able to like interact with a lot of executives?

Because I feel like what's cool about this show is they do humanize a character in Hollywood

that we often don't talk about or get access to.

So much so like the, I love the Golden Globes episode.

Where it was just like.

That was so good.

You know, just like. You're like, oh, I'm not going to'm not gonna win of course i'm gonna win the validation like his character needed i just thought was like just so relatable like yeah has there been a moment where you kind of like saw yourself in that character of zoe kravitz where you're like i need to not but maybe i will but no no i won't but i think i will honestly i actually was like maybe that's the move like maybe that is the move it's just like No, no, no but no, no, I won't.
But I think I will. Honestly, I actually was like,

maybe that's the move. Like maybe that is the move.
It's just like, no, no, no, no, no, of course not. No, no, no, no, no.
Oh, it's not about that. Cause I kind of bought it in the beginning

and I was like, good for her. So I actually kind of admired it.
Yeah. Maybe that is.
Yeah.

Has there been like a highlight or favorite memory of this past month that you've had?

Oh, um, I mean, actually quite, I've had, this has been a really fun month. I got to go to Beyonce.
So that was amazing. How was Blue Ivy? I mean, so I have been saying ever since I got pregnant, like my daughter will never be in the entertainment industry ever, ever.
And then watching Blue Ivy on stage with Beyonce, I was crying and I was like, she could do it. She could be an actress if she wants.
It's okay. We can do it together.
It's okay. That was a really, I don't know if they're doing a documentary or something, but I saw where like the first time she went out, Blue was, I don't like young.
And the response was very negative because she had just kind of like jumped in and she was like, no, I read all those. I've been grinding with these dancers.
I've been working every day. I mean, I don't know how old she is.

She owned the stage.

Like it was, it was an incredible two and a half hours.

Wow.

It was, I'm so proud of her.

I'm so proud of her too.

I mean, what, what is something if let's say your daughter decided to get into entertainment.

Yeah.

You know, like you're someone who's made a whole career out of it.

I don't know you that well, but just gotten to know you. You seem like a really grounded, like, you know, normal, cool person.
And I imagine like any parent like yourself who's in entertainment, who whose initial thought is, I don't know if I want my child to do that, is that fear of just kind of how the Lulu like Hollywood can be and how out of touch it's easy to get to, you know, just because it is so I don't know,, it's so self-serving. Yeah, it's a bubble.
And like, it's, you know, so what do you think has allowed you to stay grounded, to be, you know, a very relatable, normal person all while also being incredibly successful in this space? Oh, well, thank you. For an industry that doesn't have, like, there's nothing linear about this.
Like you could, everyone's path is so different and looks so different. I've had a shockingly linear path.
Like, I started out with one line and then that turned into a couple of lines. Like, I didn't really skip any steps.
And, like, I went to college and, like, I felt like I was a little behind when I graduated because everyone I was auditioning against didn't and, like, had four more years on their resume of like you know paid like hitting the pavement so I think because yeah I've like kind of had a steady pace nothing happened too soon too fast to be honest yeah I think that has kind of helped and then I've always yeah I've worked like pretty steadily this whole time but Ginny and George is the first thing that like took off into into the stratosphere in this way.. None of the other stuff did.
And it's still, I'm so proud of it. And it's amazing.
But this is one of the first things that really launched. That's a good point.
I mean, I think for me, I didn't go on reality TV until I was in my early 30s. A lot of my peers, it was like my early 20s.
And I'm honestly really grateful grateful for that because had I done that 10 years earlier, how I handled myself, I think would have been very different and a lot less healthy and I would have been a lot less resilient. And yeah, you must feel like a little bit that's now that you look back, I'm sure there were times early in your career where you compare yourself to someone else and you wish you got this and oh, you saw someone's like star rise faster than yours.
But now that you're in the position that you're in, yeah, I imagine you've been able to almost feel like you've been able to both have like this wonderfully cool normal life and then like fulfill your dreams at the same time. That's very sweet.
Look, I'm still comparing myself to people, of course, but that's a really nice way of framing it. Yeah.
That being said, feel like now, kind of you mentioned, do you kind of feel like it's like, you know, it's like, now it's kind of getting my time. Things are pumping.
I don't know. I think this is all kind of happening for me, like a little bit.
It's been a great year. It was really cool to get to go do, like right before we shot season three, I got to do a movie with Netflix called Kind of Pregnant with Amy Schumer and an incredible cast.
It was with Happy Madison. And it was a dream.
Didn't I hear that you used like your actual birth story? Yeah. And that was all like in none of that was in the script.
And Amy called me the night before and was like, let's just up the ante. Let's take this to the next level.
Like, would you be willing to talk about your birth story? And I was like, for sure. Let's I mean, I'm very nervous to do this.
But yeah, let's go do this. Had that ever been something that you had talked about publicly before? No, no, no.
I know. Were you like nervous? Of course.
Yeah. Because also like, I don't even know how much I've really processed all that still probably like, I guess that's kind of what the movie is about is that like this happens and then you don't process any of it.
And like, it's just're just thrown into that yeah but no especially because like i don't know i remember when i was pregnant i heard so many scary scary stories and it freaked me out and like i didn't want i don't want to like perpetuate that for everybody because like up until that happened everything was very smooth yeah how was your experience mine was honestly very lovely i got an epidural and and I would love to have one of those maybe every Saturday night. Why not? Why not? And everything worked out how it should have.
And my mom was there recording. Oh, my God.
So we were able to a few days later, a week or so later, once we had like come down, be able to look back and watch it back. And we saw that like the umbilical cord was very much wrapped around her neck.
And like we didn't know that until a week later. So like we were just glad that everything happened the way it did.
And we were able to be as present as possible. But in one of those videos, it was really sweet.
She, they took her to get her like nose sucked out or whatever. And she was crying and Nick went over there to to her, and she just stopped crying and turned her head to him.
And it was like she knew his voice, and it was the sweetest thing ever. It is crazy.
They really do know the voice. They know.
They really do. Even those moments, obviously complications aside can make moments like that traumatic and certainly memorable.
but like it's like some of those like life's biggest moments you anticipate your whole life

whether it was our wedding or the birth of our child. You're like, wait, that's just, it's over.
It happened. Like it just goes.
It's so surreal. Because in your head, you imagine it to like, you think time's going to slow down.
You know, you imagine there's going to be like a marching band. And you're just like, wait, that was a little blip yeah and it was i that was kind of one of my takeaways like oh that was awesome and magical and amazing and she's here but like wait what just happened what happened like i thought that that happened already like it was a really crazy experience out of body is there a moment of your birth that you look back and you are obviously there was a lot that happened but is there moments that you can like pick and choose from that do make you happy and like you know you see yeah I mean honestly so many like I like yeah I'll never forget her laying on my chest for the first time I'll never I mean I'm gonna cry you guys no it's I remember when they did like they went to go weigh her for the first time and then my Matt walked over and and looked at her.
And he put his hand towards her and she gripped it. And he just started bawling.
I've never seen him cry so hard. But also, she started coming out so fast.
He almost missed the whole thing. He went to go get food.
He went to go. He went to Egg Slut across the street.
We were at Cedars. He almost missed the whole thing because it was 25 minutes like it happened very fast yeah mine was fast she was like crowning and they're like so your doctor's parking we'll just keep her there for a moment yeah they were like oh hold on she's not here yet and they're like and where's dad don't breathe yeah I was like he's getting food they're like in the cafeteria right and I was like nope he has left the vicinity that's what I did he is long in the cafeteria.
Yeah, he's like, I'm not eating this. He walked in holding tater tots and they go, dad, grab a leg.
And then he was like, what, what, what, what? And I was like, it's happening now. And he's like, they said it was going to happen in the afternoon.
And I was like, it's happening now. He's like, wait, but if we just, can we just look at the time? And then he's like, do you want a tater tot? And I was like, no, it's happening now.
We gotta go. We gotta go.
But like that, when I think about that, it makes me laugh. Yeah.
That's a sweet moment. And the nurses were so sweet.
And one of my nurses had on Real Housewives of Orange County Scrubs. But it was the meme of Taylor with the cat.
Yes. Have you seen that? Yes.
It was all over her scrubs. And I just felt like it was a sign from the universe.
And I was like, you're my girl. I'm like, we're meant to do this together.
What's your favorite Housewives franchise? I mean, probably it's two, each season is so different, but like I thought Beverly Hills was amazing this season. OC like lost its way, but it's been bad.

Like the last two seasons of OC,

I thought were amazing.

And then Salt Lake has always delivered.

New York,

I've always loved,

but I wasn't as enthralled

with like the most recent installment.

So it just depends.

Have you been getting into the Valley?

No,

but only because I'm behind.

Okay.

I'm going to.

That one's crazy.

It's dark.

Yeah.

It's just dark.

It's also awesome. Yeah.
Well, dark makes for great reality TV. Yeah.
But it's just, you know, maybe it's a new parent. Are there a lot of divorces this season? Or is it just the one? Just the one.
That's Jackson, Brittany, and Michelle. Yeah.
It's, you know, as a fan of reality TV and being in this season of life, I really appreciate the Valley. It's sometimes a tough watch because you're like, we cover it.
I've been a part of it. I don't think people, and as a host of this show, I don't think fans of reality TV fully appreciate what reality stars are willing to do for our entertainment.
Oh, we owe them everything could never do it never and so like i i'm trying to find that balance between you know like as you know we love to critique and talk about it and use it as like a launching pad for conversations about our lives you know it's it's easy to be critical especially like their willingness to show things that you're like i don't know i if Mo, I just, this seems a little wrong. But at the same time, I'm just like, oh my God, thank God people are willing to do this.
We can't judge them because they're doing a great service. They are.
Truly. They really are.
Is there, did you watch Secret Lives of Mormon Wives season one? Of course. I loved it.
What is your favorite reality? Like, you're sitting at home, you can turn them all on. Which one are we? Look, I love a below deck.
Really? I know. It's kind of random.
I love a below deck. I just love it.
Because it doesn't, housewives can also get dark and toxic. Yep.
And we want them, like, a little dark and toxic. But not so much.
Like, I hate it, like, when, like, we have to put people on pause. Like, I miss Dorinda.
Yes. Like, I don't.
And I want everyone to be okay, you know? So, below deck is, like, a nice, safe. There's a little fantasy's a little fantasy to it and like the hookups are so fun and you've got the upstairs and the downstairs and there's new guests every week and you're going to a beautiful place and then those tiny little bunks there's always good drama but it's like nefarious drama like well for the most part but then when they're super toxic they get sent off exactly yeah which actually does happen like every third episode you're higher yeah we're like alright we're gonna sit down at dinner after we just outed your ex-husband like okay let's go below deck is probably your favorite too right sierra oh no summer house i'm behind on that too but i love summer house that's good fun yeah it's relatively it's not as toxic i mean you know there's do you guys do southern charm yes we Yes.
Yeah, we do it all. Yes.
We were just, we just, we're in the South and we walked past a sewing down South. Oh my God.
Storefront. How's it doing? I was- It looks so big on the show.
Is it huge? It was huge. I was very impressed.
Wow. Like, I was like, good for you, Craig.
He's really doing it. Yeah.
Yeah. Like, I did, it was like a weekday, so it wasn't like a high traffic day, but- There was like, there was so many pillows.
Amazing. So many pillows.
And his face everywhere. Years ago.
Truly. So it's just still thriving.
He is. He is still thriving.
Did you ever watch Southern Hospitality? A little bit. Yeah.
I didn't sink my teeth in in the same way. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't think I did either. What was your intro to reality TV? It was probably like a cupcake wars and but I also remember

watching Real Housewives of Orange County with my mom

the first season and her saying that like

someone she worked with always wanted to live in Cotto

de Caza and she was like

I've heard about this place like let's go

like let's check it out.

So then yeah there's like

early early days.

What else Laguna Beach? The Hills? I did a little Survivor. Not as much.
This one show I've never seen, Survivor. I've tried to get Nick to watch it so many times.
I don't currently watch, but people are, oh my. I feel like the OG seasons.
Yes. I mean, as I'm sure like most seasons are, but yeah, OG is definitely really good.
So it's still fun for you to watch reality TV,

even though it was such a big part of your life.

Yeah.

I mean, I still like,

I'm sure as an actor,

when you're watching,

I've done a little bit of acting.

Even then,

I can watch something now

and be like,

wow, that was...

I mean, before I ever even tried it,

you just watched it

and you just appreciate the storyline

as opposed to being like,

that was an amazing performance.

Wow.

That person was acting and that was great. And with reality TV, there's certainly moments where I'm either kind of rolling my eyes because it feels a bit forced or staged.
I think reality TV in the past used to get away with professional wrestling where they used to pretend it was real. You know, and reality TV used to be like, no, this is, you know, when I was on the bachelor, they had me go knock on our room.
And so they'd had me like go to the hotel and get the key. And then I had fans being like, why is that person giving them the key? It's just like, I had a camera.
Yeah. You know, like, come on.
And I think now fans are more educated about how reality TV is made made and sometimes they get frustrated that networks aren't like keeping up with how intelligent fans are getting and i wish they would like break the fourth wall a little bit more because like we all know rather than pretending that like like the fake therapy on bravo just always gets me yeah it's just like come's just like, come on. You know? Sitting with our

couples therapist

or like life coach

or something.

No, I think

breaking the fourth

of them.

Well, you're right.

But I also,

you kind of bring up

a good point that

reality TV has changed

so much because

one of the other shows

that I got so into

was 90 Day Fiance.

Yes.

Did you guys ever do that?

I do that still.

I'm still on Last Resort.

But like, it's not,

what season is it in?

I don't know.

I don't know.

We're in very deep now. There's like part five of a reunion.
But like season one truly felt like a documentary. But like now it's such a big show.
It feels like people are trying to go on it just to, like they, everyone's too self-aware now. And like it, it changes the feeling for sure.
That's how definitely Bachelor feels these days. It's like, it's sweet.
Everyone knows why they're going on. They know what they're going to get out of it.
It's less. They're all, as soon as the show's airing, everyone's pretty much.
It's like, everyone's like pumping out their TikTok trends. You know, it's very, yeah.
Well, Brienne, before we let you go, I want to play the trailer for season three. So the fans can get a little bit of a sneak peek and see what to look forward to from the next season of Ginny and Georgia.

You know what I loved about your wedding?

It wasn't this cookie cutter, copy and paste affair.

It was very memorable.

Especially the part where I was arrested.

Exactly.

My mom's awaiting her murder trial.

And everyone at school is looking at me like I'm in the circus.

It's fun.

Your college essay writes itself.

First to be murdered is life without the possibility of parole.

Life.

You will be on house arrest, monitored with an ankle bracelet, until trial.

Why's it beeping? I'm not running away. I'm in my damn house.

It needs to be charged.

Oh. I cannot believe that'm in my damn house.
It needs to be charged. Oh.

I cannot believe that this is my life sometimes.

Do you think it really needs us right now?

I'm worried about her.

I've always known my mom was different.

There's more to her that people don't see.

Everyone thinks I'm a violent, unhinged monster. You can't give up.
At least it can't get any worse, right? Except if I go to prison that would be worse. Order! I'm not a bad person, but if you come face to face with Fad, you become a little bad yourself.
I want to protect you from all this. Mom needs me! You think you have the whole story, but you don't! No more secrets.
I've been defending my mom to everyone. I am trying so hard to protect her, but I don't even know if it's the right thing to do.

I don't want my mom to go to prison.

Do you think she did this?

We're in this together.

Ride or die. Where are we riding and why do we have to die? You really look like a badass walking into that courtroom.
You did. I was like, oh, period.
And the accent is so good. Oh, thank you, guys.
Being from the South, I watched... Where are you from? I'm originally from Auburn, Alabama.
Oh god and then lived in in savannah georgia for before i moved here so if you have like a glass of wine is it really coming out oh when she gets on the phone with her sisters i'm like who is this person yeah if honestly if we have like a country artist guest people and like the amount of dms being like that accent was so insane it just like falls out of me but it's really good sometimes it's the world it's hard to watch some people do southern accents and it feels of course very like yours is it comes off very natural thank you so much that means a lot coming from you thank you yeah i was like i was like i'm pretty sure this isn't her real voice like some after like when it first came out and i would uh send in self tapes they would think they would be like oh no she could, oh no, she could do her regular accent. It's okay.
Thinking it was Southern. Like they'd be like, she doesn't have to put on a neutral American.
And they were like, no, this, she's not from the South. This is her accent.
Well, congratulations. Obviously we're very excited about it.
It's a great show and I'm excited for people to watch season three and come back again. Thank you so much.
So fun. Thank you.
Well, I just want to thank you to our guests, Katie and Dana from Disrespectfully, as well as Bree and Howie. Tomorrow, don't forget we have a Going Deeper with Dakota from the hit show, Secret Lives of Mormon Wives.
It's got over a billion streams. I mean, that show is crushing.
That's like a hundred million per episode. That's crazy.
I'm three of them. Three bill? No, of them three bill three like i've watched the whole series three times over uh well dakota obviously a

a uh some might consider a problematic character complicated man complicated man uh we get a

little backstory a little insight on his relationship with the star we will will see you tomorrow. Bye.
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