E944 - Brianne Howey Talks Ginny & Georgia, Love Island USA w/ Disrespectfully, Summer House & Karen Read

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Speaker 11 Does anyone here eat fast breaks?

Speaker 1 No, what is that?

Speaker 11 It is the best candy bar on the market. It is a rhesus with nougat.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he hasn't eaten candy since 2024.

Speaker 12 Nugget's better than all of us is what he's saying.

Speaker 13 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Maybe that's your origin story.

Speaker 11 You should have some candy. You'd probably be happier.
Candy's the best.

Speaker 1 What are you trying to say?

Speaker 14 Had a pretty good year after he's been like yelling at everyone all morning.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, maybe try. Maybe you need a fast break.

Speaker 13 Maybe you need a fucking fast break.

Speaker 11 Um, so I got that and some lemonade sour patch kids, but they weren't as great.

Speaker 3 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 15 What kind of candy do you like?

Speaker 1 Do you eat candy or is it just or no, no, no, no candy in the household, or yeah,

Speaker 1 are you loud?

Speaker 1 No candy past the front door. Truly, it's very, it's very strict.

Speaker 13 Okay, I love a Reese's.

Speaker 1 Then you'd probably love a fast break.

Speaker 13 I probably would. I, yeah.

Speaker 9 I've been eating chocolate-covered almonds on like non-stop recently.

Speaker 10 So that's not like candy.

Speaker 11 That's like healthy girl. That's like green juice girl candy.

Speaker 1 That's like Nick Approved candy candy. Nicky

Speaker 1 is grapefruit. All right.

Speaker 11 Do you give out trick-or-treaters toothbrushes and like pennies?

Speaker 19 What do you give trick-or-treaters? Just curious.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 16 No, I'm like, Nick, we have to get the candy for the trick-or-treater.

Speaker 8 He's like, absolutely not.

Speaker 7 You cannot bring that candy into this house.

Speaker 20 No, not on my house.

Speaker 1 That was October. I was still eating candy in 2024.

Speaker 11 Was this like a specific 2025 thing that you were like, I just don't want to?

Speaker 9 He's the one person on the planet Earth who has like made a New Year's resolution and has stuck to it.

Speaker 11 Oh, candy was here. So you formerly did eat candy.

Speaker 1 I haven't had any sugar.

Speaker 9 He formerly was. He formally was eating a supper and then would immediately make four bowls of cocoa pebbles and then eat three popsicles and then go to bed.

Speaker 1 I had a problem.

Speaker 4 Here's the thing.

Speaker 11 Not to be this person, but isn't there sugar and grapefruit? Are you referring to refined?

Speaker 1 Simple sugars. Refined.
okay. Yeah, yeah, okay.
Stuff that'll kill you and give you diabetes. Oh my god, you know,

Speaker 11 the sugars, as they say it Risal.

Speaker 1 I'm sure you've heard that before. Yeah, for all the people.
Oh, the sugar and oranges. It's like, yeah, no, well, yeah.

Speaker 11 And also, we need sugar to live.

Speaker 11 Okay, well, don't show him my fucking going to the seven vlog.

Speaker 1 I don't want to show him that vlog. I don't want fucking edge.
Who told you we need sugar to live?

Speaker 1 I think you actually might. Well, again, sure.
Not refined.

Speaker 8 Like, I'm talking about sugar, carbs, all these things we need.

Speaker 1 You do need.

Speaker 1 What's going on, everybody? Welcome back to another episode of the Vafiles Reality Recap Edition. I'm your host, Nick, and boy, do we have a fun episode lined up for you today?

Speaker 1 Later this episode, the star, what? Is she here?

Speaker 1 Oh, my God, she made it.

Speaker 11 I'm so happy to see you.

Speaker 21 I was so delirious when I woke up because I didn't fall asleep until 5.

Speaker 1 5? What were you doing?

Speaker 21 Well, I fell asleep originally at 8.30 and then I woke up at 11.

Speaker 1 And then went out

Speaker 21 no i laid there just like dying for

Speaker 11 we both have sleeping disorder we both have not good sleep situation but what do you do to solve that problem oh i scroll i do the thing you're not supposed to do yeah should be doing i mean i've tried everything it just yeah do you have i that was my problem and then i got a kindle and now i'm a book girl you know i used to have a kindle fall asleep i used to have one but then i kind of resisted but maybe i should get back on that It's nice to have all your books in one place.

Speaker 18 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, I love an audiobook too.

Speaker 1 This makes me tired.

Speaker 9 You know, like my eyes get tired of reading and I honestly don't even understand what's going on in the book because I just fall asleep.

Speaker 21 I read Reddit. I call them my bedtime stories.

Speaker 1 Are you sick?

Speaker 21 Not about me. No.
I read like the M I the Assholes are read about people's like really bizarre plane behavior.

Speaker 1 Do you ever go to bed dreaming about the stories?

Speaker 21 No, sometimes if I fall asleep to a TikTok though, it will.

Speaker 11 Oh, yeah. I have on repeat like three audiobooks, one of them being Matthew Perry, Don't Ask Me.
And I just like his voice. And so I'll have like dreams about Matthew Perry a lot.

Speaker 1 It's quite strange.

Speaker 1 All right, faith. I know I used to want to watch Handmaid's Tale before bed.
That was triggering. Yeah.
Oh, that one's hard to watch before bed. Yeah, no, thanks.

Speaker 1 Might as well just watch the local news.

Speaker 21 And then by the time I woke up, I was like, oh, I haven't told it. And I was like, oh, no, I don't.

Speaker 1 I got to move. You're here.
You look great. And we have a great episode.
Dana and Katie from Disrespectfully are here with us today because the cast of Love Island has just been released.

Speaker 1 And since they're best friends with the host, we figured, why not come in and let's talk about the new cast members.

Speaker 1 We also have Breanne Howie with us this episode, The Star of Ginny in Georgia, which premieres this Thursday on Netflix.

Speaker 1 I feel like it's a show all of you people listening watch. She's a complicated character.
A mom, you know, who overcomes adversity.

Speaker 5 A mom who is not afraid to speak her mind.

Speaker 1 Not afraid to speak her mind. Stand her ground.
Well, Brianne is with us, and we have a great conversation with her as later this episode.

Speaker 1 Also, we'll get into the first reunion part one of Summer House. You guys don't watch Summerhouse, do you?

Speaker 11 No, but I follow on TikTok.

Speaker 1 When you're chronically online, you know what's going on.

Speaker 1 You don't need to watch TV anymore.

Speaker 18 No,

Speaker 1 I gotta knew it was here on Vile Files Plus. I am just over this group of women calling themselves girls' girls.
Yeah, it was a rough reunion.

Speaker 1 Can we retire that term just forever? Thank you. Oh, my God.
I truly

Speaker 1 consider myself a girl's girl unless I don't like you.

Speaker 17 I said it was a buzzword.

Speaker 17 It's another one of those buzzwords where it's just like, okay, so if I don't like one girl, but I like my girls or I've got my girls back, then all of a sudden I'm not a girl's girl because I didn't have some random girls back.

Speaker 1 That's this, that's this group of women.

Speaker 21 Yeah, no, guess what? There's a there's a lot of women I can't fucking stand. So no, I will

Speaker 1 ride for you. Yeah, and I say this as someone who hates people.
I don't like people. I like my people.
And it's just like this cast is like the leading charge of the self-identified.

Speaker 1 I'm a girl's girl.

Speaker 26 You are like so in love, actually.

Speaker 21 I am.

Speaker 4 With a rock star. Yeah.

Speaker 18 I feel like we, last time you were here, did we talk about that?

Speaker 21 I don't think so. I haven't really talked.
I mean, I've only recently, I guess, talked more about it.

Speaker 21 Yeah, I'm super happy.

Speaker 3 He's great.

Speaker 1 Wait, so

Speaker 1 one of the stars of Next Gen was involved in this like crypto kidnapping thing? What? Charlie Zakori.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 We were talking about Katie being in love. I know.
I'm sorry. I'm just looking at the notes.

Speaker 21 That's why, you know, I don't mind keeping it to myself.

Speaker 1 No one wants to know. Katie told me she likes to keep her love life private.
So

Speaker 1 we're respecting it.

Speaker 11 He's coming on Disrespect List.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, he'll be on Disrespectful.

Speaker 21 We're going to have him on. Yeah, once he's back from.

Speaker 27 Wait, Katie, how is it being on tour?

Speaker 21 It's fun. I like, if you enjoy kind of like hanging out and just hanging, then it'll suit you.

Speaker 1 But I just like being with him.

Speaker 21 So it's like, I could be sharing a bunk with him or walking around Disneyland. I don't know.
I just, whatever we're doing, I just, I just want to be with him.

Speaker 4 You were on a tour bus.

Speaker 1 You were sharing.

Speaker 11 Yeah, it's like, how do you feel about sleeping in a sarcophagus? And then you'll know how you feel about.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Oh, my God.

Speaker 21 For three nights, my back was wrecked.

Speaker 27 It's like sleeping in a coffin.

Speaker 21 Yeah, that's basically what it is. I mean, luckily, like, I'm not a huge person.
He's not a huge guy.

Speaker 21 So we can fit nicely in there. But like, it's just every two hours you wake up and have to like change positions because your hips hurt or then your shoulder hurts.

Speaker 21 And, but I'm still, I still like, we'll do it.

Speaker 1 Are you like spooning the whole time?

Speaker 21 Sometimes it's a little bit. Like, he's definitely like a back sleeper, so I just kind of like rotisserie around his like sides.

Speaker 1 Yeah, physical touch isn't like good for your lower lumbar, I don't think, you know. No, I like it, though.

Speaker 21 I would, you know, I'll risk back problems for it.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 and as will I.

Speaker 1 Well, anyways, there, you know, are you, are you guys, this next gen Bravo show does look interesting. It does.

Speaker 21 I think it's going to, I don't know. I mean, you just need a bunch of like young kids who just kind of don't know anything yet well we've never really dived into reality TV nepotism yeah

Speaker 1 this will be interesting and this is like a first I like Brooks a lot he's sweet Meredith's son yeah I've never met him or Brookmark he seems like a classy guy I like him I think he's very

Speaker 1 who is Charlie Zakor Zacca is am I pronouncing that right

Speaker 1 probably not Zachauer Zachauer is a crypto trader and private investor who's he the kid of I think Kim though no I think Kim's daughter dating Kim's daughter?

Speaker 17 I think dating Kim's daughter.

Speaker 1 They're not all Nepo BBs. No, some of them are just like friends to school.

Speaker 1 Well, this guy apparently witnessed some sort of like crypto attempted kidnapping. Anyways.
Was it Sherry Papini? Have you been following the Sherry Papini case at all? I just,

Speaker 1 since my wife has become a true crime junkie. The Sherry Papini.

Speaker 5 Which one was that?

Speaker 1 She's like the real-life gong girl who faked her kidnapping.

Speaker 21 Oh my God. Yeah, that was nuts.

Speaker 1 There's a new documentary out on Max, and there was a documentary on Hulu that seemed to be, they've called it like keith's her her i guess now ex-husband uh it was like his version now it's like her version um we just finished it it's quite interesting did y'all follow any of the karen read stuff oh yeah we just did a deep dive on that did you oh my god

Speaker 21 i think she did it do you you think so do you no no i don't think so either i think they have such a loose case against her and it's all just a bunch of lying i think she should be acquitted i think the state has done a terrible job of proving her innocence i think these cops

Speaker 1 um are guilty. Yes.
Well, have done some poor police work and maybe even have some corruption. I still don't think that means she didn't do it.
And I think two things can be true at the same time.

Speaker 1 And the story of her innocence is just far less believable.

Speaker 1 Too many things have to come together for this conspiracy as opposed to like she got drunk, accidentally hit her ex-husband and like boyfriend or boyfriend and

Speaker 1 killed him.

Speaker 11 I think that I lean more towards she didn't, but I'm not 100% she didn't. But either way to convict someone of murder too on this state's case, it's, it's just not there.

Speaker 11 There's, there's so much reasonable doubt.

Speaker 1 So I say, no, thank you.

Speaker 21 I think could she have left him stranded knowing that he was maybe locked out of the house or couldn't get in and but didn't think it would result? I don't know. Who knows?

Speaker 21 I think maybe she knows something else, but I don't think based on like all of the TikTokers.

Speaker 21 No, no, the people, like the people that were testifying, like the experts on like the physics of how it could happen.

Speaker 26 It's just like, how the like crash reconstructionists.

Speaker 21 Yeah, I was just like, I don't, I don't know.

Speaker 8 Like they all reenacted it and then it was like, well, you look like you're still fine after that.

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 11 he got booped with the taillight and did a like cartoon, like, ooh, spin and collapse. And then they're like, that is what.

Speaker 13 And then, like, asphyxiate it.

Speaker 1 And then his black eyes and his and then the dog attack his arm. And then his

Speaker 21 dog by, and then the dog,

Speaker 21 they mysteriously just rehome the dog.

Speaker 1 And then he destroys his bone.

Speaker 1 Why would these people kill him?

Speaker 13 It is also crazy. They were wasted.

Speaker 1 Yeah. But then why?

Speaker 11 I don't think they meant to.

Speaker 11 I think they got in a fight and he stumbled out and fell and probably hit his head. And that's what I think was more likely that happened.

Speaker 9 I definitely think there was an accident, and he ended up dying.

Speaker 8 And they were all like, holy fuck, we're a bunch of cops and a bunch of cops' wives. Like, we're, we got to cover this up.
We got to figure out a way.

Speaker 1 Everyone, including the kids, have all like stuck to the story.

Speaker 4 Why didn't the cops go in the house that morning?

Speaker 11 If someone dies on the lawn,

Speaker 11 why on earth did a bunch of police officers not say?

Speaker 11 I think OJ did it.

Speaker 1 Yes. absolutely.
But there was

Speaker 1 a lot of shit. What are you talking about? My point is,

Speaker 1 he got off because they were able to prove all the shitty police work that did or didn't happen. And all, like, my point is, like, bad police work doesn't prove someone's innocence.

Speaker 21 Yeah, but bad police work can also prove someone to be guilty when they're not.

Speaker 4 Like, did you watch Outcry?

Speaker 5 What the hell was that?

Speaker 1 No, what was that?

Speaker 3 Oh, my gosh.

Speaker 11 It's on Showtime. You need to watch it.

Speaker 21 It's

Speaker 21 basically, yeah, just watch it.

Speaker 1 Karen, when you get get acquitted because i think you'll get acquitted um we would love to have you on the show truly um and um wait is the is the second trial happening right now

Speaker 8 is the commonwealth has rested their case and now it's it's their turn so she's like she might testify could get crazy yeah

Speaker 21 i think it's just because she's not really a likable person yeah that people are like i think she's it's easier to believe the worst than someone that you just don't care for yeah

Speaker 1 See, I think the opposite. I think that it's more fun to believe her innocence because that's the more salacious story.
It's more salacious to think a bunch of cops are colluding.

Speaker 1 We've all had a bad experience, whether it's just a pullover or a cop is rude to us. Like, you know, it's just, it's more fun to believe.

Speaker 11 I think it's really hard for a woman to come overcome not being likable in the court of public opinion. And she, she is ornamenting.

Speaker 20 I don't know. She's not.

Speaker 19 She's very, she likes the attention.

Speaker 27 She loves the attention.

Speaker 13 She really is into herself.

Speaker 21 You know, so fuck me.

Speaker 1 Anyway,

Speaker 1 the new cast of Love Island is upon us. Have you seen these people?

Speaker 21 Oh, yeah. I've been, I watched the whole promo that introduced them all.
They're all very sexy.

Speaker 1 We have Usilla. Is that my saying that right?

Speaker 1 Ulyssa. Yulissa.
Ulyssa. It's very season six kind of.

Speaker 9 I was about to say, do you feel like they tried to find out?

Speaker 1 Who is our

Speaker 1 PPG?

Speaker 1 Who is our

Speaker 1 Serena?

Speaker 9 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Who is our Kendall? No, they literally

Speaker 21 have a guy on there. He's like, I'm a short king.
I'm like, that sounds familiar.

Speaker 16 And wasn't he wearing like a cowboy hat?

Speaker 1 not that one that was a different one kind of get that head all right we got all right was it jeremiah brown sexy he says he's a um a really good communicator i do remember that does he also say he's hot does he also say he's a liar

Speaker 27 well you know he says he's three out of four do they have good guy bios do they have like fun facts or anything yeah so jeremiah's fun fact is that he's a model who just starred in a true religion campaign true religion i didn't know true religion was still around that's cool

Speaker 1 I feel like only like mega church pastors wear true religion genes these days.

Speaker 11 Yeah, is that a recession indicator? I feel scared about that.

Speaker 17 True religion was having a moment a while ago, so I think it's just the resurgent.

Speaker 1 Okay. Yeah, like 90s fashion is on its way back.

Speaker 17 But it's also giving Cordell the like I want to choose it sponsorship. It's like my fun fact I just modeled for true religion.

Speaker 21 Yes.

Speaker 23 Should we go back to you, Litha?

Speaker 27 We didn't do her fun fact. All right.

Speaker 1 So she's a mermaid.

Speaker 27 She's a, yeah, she's She's an entrepreneur who works in real estate, hospitality, and luxury and business.

Speaker 1 So she works in what? That's like Florida. I guess she has a lot of jobs.
She's busy from Miami, Florida.

Speaker 21 She hangs out with rich guys on their boats.

Speaker 1 There we go.

Speaker 27 That's what that means.

Speaker 13 That is what that's code for.

Speaker 11 She has a residency at Sexy Fish.

Speaker 5 Chelly.

Speaker 27 According to the promo, she's big into astrology and she will be judging men based on their star signs. Hell yeah.

Speaker 1 That's That's reliable. Hell yeah.
That'll work. Oh, I'm into that.

Speaker 3 It's worked for you.

Speaker 11 No, it sure hasn't, but I like it.

Speaker 1 I like to watch it unfold.

Speaker 1 Is this our quiet, mysterious guy?

Speaker 27 This is our guy who jumps into the pool and has a temper tension.

Speaker 1 Oh, this is our Rob.

Speaker 20 He looks like Nicholas.

Speaker 1 How tall is he? He looks like Lucas a little bit.

Speaker 21 Oh, he's got a little Lucas gauge to him.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, he does.

Speaker 9 Nicholas Vinsteinberg.

Speaker 1 They all kind of look short.

Speaker 1 Is a prereq to have a last name you can't can't pronounce what is going on here they all steenberg aren't they always kind of short kings is it nicholas or nichols nichols nicholas nicholas nichols

Speaker 1 are they all from florida except for

Speaker 27 a guy he's from la wait what are his fun facts fun fact you might recognize him for his modeling work we don't i don't but according to his instagram he also has a degree in nursing at florida atlantic university okay gaylord foker let's go um i know i kind of like King.

Speaker 1 Not subscribing to social norms. Yes.

Speaker 1 Love.

Speaker 17 Like, I wouldn't mind waking up from anesthesia and seeing.

Speaker 1 He said, I'm smart and hot. Gaylord.

Speaker 27 He's definitely my type.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Fame.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 21 And I like the cowboy, too, but anyway.

Speaker 1 Oh, is he a cowboy?

Speaker 21 No, you'll see.

Speaker 1 Decatur. Oh, okay.
Alandria.

Speaker 11 You know. Decanter.

Speaker 27 Decanter. Oh,

Speaker 1 no, it is Decatur.

Speaker 20 It is Decatur.

Speaker 1 I think it's very

Speaker 1 Decatur right here.

Speaker 11 Why is it spelled like that?

Speaker 27 There's a spelling spelling error on this dock, but it is Decatur.

Speaker 10 Yeah, I was like, Decanter is not a place in Alabama that I know.

Speaker 1 I was going to say, you're from the South. You don't know Decanter?

Speaker 1 You've never visited Decanter?

Speaker 27 Her fun fact is she's a graduate of Tuskegee?

Speaker 22 Tuskegee? Tuskegee.

Speaker 1 Yes,

Speaker 27 Tuskegee University.

Speaker 1 This guy. This is Cordell.
Yes. This is Cordell.

Speaker 22 I like he's, but he's a cowboy.

Speaker 21 He grew up on, he said he learned to ride a horse before he learned to walk. Hot.
I think that's what he he said.

Speaker 1 But yeah, what does tattoo say?

Speaker 22 It says

Speaker 27 something, not kill something.

Speaker 12 What are his fun facts, Taylor?

Speaker 27 He was on the cover of Wonderland in 2024 for Louis Vuitton.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. Oh, that's cool.
Like lots of models. Like literal models.

Speaker 21 Well, yeah, you're half naked the entire time on the show.

Speaker 1 You better be a model.

Speaker 1 That's why I 24 on my reality TV is full of hot people that maybe like dabbled in modeling a la, you know, Tom Schwartz.

Speaker 1 But these guys are like model models. Like, yeah, Wonderland, yeah, Wonderland, that's legit.

Speaker 11 He's like that he's sticking to the bit with his cowboy hat.

Speaker 17 I was going to say to her, I'm like, I mean this with all due respect and just full jealousy of that not being my path, but I'm like, they are, they do also need to be able to take off work for two months to be in a house dating a bunch of people.

Speaker 17 So I'm like, I've heard they'd hire a bunch of models.

Speaker 1 Yeah, models don't flexible schedule.

Speaker 1 Salesforce gave me some time.

Speaker 21 I feel like you would be into him.

Speaker 11 The cowboy? Yeah. Yeah, except for the fact that he's a cowboy, but he was.

Speaker 1 I love a cowboy. She loves a cowboy.

Speaker 21 Yeah. I watched all those seasons of Yellowstone and 18.

Speaker 13 Were you a Rip or a Casey or a Cowboy?

Speaker 1 All of them.

Speaker 1 All of them. Oh,

Speaker 1 I understood it for that.

Speaker 6 And Rip.

Speaker 21 And what's the old guy's name?

Speaker 1 Him? Kevin Costner? No. All of them.
No, the other.

Speaker 1 Lloyd. Was it Lloyd? Oh, yeah.
Lloyd. I love Lloyd.
Lloyd.

Speaker 1 Lloyd could get it. Lloyd could get it.
Huda.

Speaker 1 Huda.

Speaker 1 Huda Mustafa.

Speaker 27 All right. Fun fact.
She's an influencer and trainer who sells online coaching.

Speaker 27 Given her dedication to her fitness journey, we don't see Huda giving up easily on Love Island USA, which could see her making it all the way to the final with her man.

Speaker 9 Do we see her working out with the men?

Speaker 10 You know? With these men?

Speaker 1 Yeah. By working out with the men, she means like.
Because she's a trainer. Oh.
You know.

Speaker 21 like she's going to be out there she's going to be leading it she's like hey guys i do curls yeah and with those guys i don't know maybe if i like i think she wants like a big brawny, maybe that guy.

Speaker 21 Oh, that's your type. Easy.

Speaker 1 I mean, you keep

Speaker 11 saying every single person, but it's also possible.

Speaker 1 I'm just trying to gauge you.

Speaker 11 I don't know what she's into these days.

Speaker 1 Northville. Yeah, he's hard.
Is that Michigan or Michigan? Missouri? What's M.I.? Michigan.

Speaker 26 Michigan. Austin Shepard.

Speaker 20 Okay, what are his?

Speaker 21 He looks tall from his face.

Speaker 1 But his fun fact is that he recently moved to Florida. So I guess he's now in Florida.
Floridian. Okay, that's his fun fact.
That's his fun fact.

Speaker 19 That is his fun fact.

Speaker 1 Oh, he's great. Okay, John,

Speaker 12 dig a little deeper can we get the bachelor producers to pull some fun facts out of these people

Speaker 1 this girl i need a fear what is her name i really bella bella bella

Speaker 21 i like her she's cute i bet it's bella her um package intro package was very cute and she seems very likable

Speaker 27 what's her fact Her fun fact is she works at her parents' coffee shop when she's not busy modeling.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they are all models. There we go.

Speaker 21 It's like they're like, we need you to have a little bit more of a humble approach to this.

Speaker 1 Like we can't just say like you're a model because obviously I just

Speaker 13 okay. I like occasionally will ring up a latte.

Speaker 1 Like I go to coffee shop.

Speaker 22 I was like, I like to take walks.

Speaker 13 But all of these people will have stuff in common.

Speaker 27 So whoever she's with is going to have to make good coffee to bring to her dressing room.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 21 That's a big thing. That's a big component.

Speaker 1 This is the short king. Ace.
How short is short?

Speaker 27 His fun fact is that he's a content creator with 1 million followers on TikTok. And his official website describes him as a DJ comedian model choreographer YouTuber and professional party host

Speaker 1 oh my god

Speaker 1 I think we're gonna like him

Speaker 1 I'm surprised so how chronically online I am that I haven't heard of him so I'm feeling a little disappointed myself well the internet has a big place wait was that everyone from Love Island that's the original cast we don't know who the bombshells are going to be I'm a little surprised that they didn't cast any like a a la Rob you know how Rob was a bombshell from a previous season and that seemed a really popular you You don't know that that's not going to happen.

Speaker 27 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, Rob was part of the original cast of last season.

Speaker 27 The original, but he could be the first bombshell.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but like a bombshell,

Speaker 1 that's what I'm saying. Rob was a bombshell, and then they moved him into the original cast.
Like, there's no point in bringing a bombshell back to be a bombshell again. They do that.

Speaker 11 You think Rob's going back?

Speaker 27 No, no, no, no, no. But Rob was Casa Moore, and he was brought in in the OG cast.
But I could see them bringing in, like, the first round bombshell of somebody we've seen.

Speaker 1 What's a bombshell or cast member from a previous season that you would love to see?

Speaker 21 Someone from last season, maybe?

Speaker 12 Honestly, all the guys from last season.

Speaker 1 Rob Vakasa more.

Speaker 11 Okay, here's the thing. It's because I don't chronically watch this like Katie is and you guys, but Rob, I actually just was scrolling the other day.

Speaker 11 I saw him in a bush somewhere with a snake at night, like snake gathering. He, I was like, who the fuck? He's hot.
And then I was like, oh, this is that Love Island guy that loves snakes.

Speaker 24 But he was he the first bombshell?

Speaker 21 Because he was with Leah at the very beginning. No, he was

Speaker 1 the OG cast. Okay, so he was OG.
So he was Vikasa more season five. Oh, okay.

Speaker 21 I didn't, I didn't, I think I missed that one. But have they started filming yet or not yet?

Speaker 1 No, it's June 3rd.

Speaker 13 Have you seen any previews of Ariana's outfits?

Speaker 20 No.

Speaker 21 I kind of want to be. Oh, you have?

Speaker 1 You have? I have. Okay.

Speaker 1 I've seen a couple.

Speaker 11 I mean, she crushes it with the looks.

Speaker 1 It's amazing. Did she hit any of the cast? Yeah.

Speaker 1 What does she think?

Speaker 11 Yeah, she's super excited about the season. She's really excited.
She's going to look fucking fire, and I think it's going to be great.

Speaker 11 I mean, I love that she genuinely loves the show and had for years, and this is just like

Speaker 11 I am just for because of her.

Speaker 1 It's a lot, I get it.

Speaker 24 I mostly watch her parts and fast forward.

Speaker 1 That's how we got into it last season, and we're like, oh my god, this is really good.

Speaker 21 It was really good. I mean, you can, it's kind of like you can have it on and sort of pay attention to it.

Speaker 21 And if you need to come back to me, you can, but like, I just like wondering what they're doing because it's in real time. It's so weird.

Speaker 1 Like, what are they doing right now? Being there, they're sleeping.

Speaker 21 Watching the monitors while they're sleeping.

Speaker 21 I remember after we did the afterson, we were sitting there eating like McDonald's, and I look over on the screen, and it's live feed and they're all just like asleep.

Speaker 21 I'm like, this is, this feels like such a science experiment. Like it's so bizarre, but it was so

Speaker 21 cool being there because I love the show. So seeing like being that right next to the villa like that.
And then where Aftersun is, it's kind of like on this hill above it. So you can see down into it.

Speaker 21 Like you can see the fire pit.

Speaker 1 It was very cool. I loved it.
Are you going to go back?

Speaker 1 I wish.

Speaker 21 I mean, last time they gave me about a three-day notice.

Speaker 1 Perfect.

Speaker 12 They're still hoping.

Speaker 21 Yeah, I told them.

Speaker 1 I was like, I'll come back anytime for reals.

Speaker 13 It's paradise.

Speaker 21 It's just so far. It's so cool.

Speaker 8 Yeah, that was a quick three-day trip to Fiji.

Speaker 21 Yeah, and losing a whole day in between coming back and then losing my mind.

Speaker 1 It sucks coming back. Going there, not so bad.
No.

Speaker 17 Coming back.

Speaker 3 Well, you come back on the same day that you already live.

Speaker 21 Yeah, and then when you leave there, you skip it into. Or you just go there.

Speaker 1 You skip it into.

Speaker 21 Exactly.

Speaker 3 It's tough.

Speaker 1 It was a tough turnaround.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the Virgin Islands are like right there. That's true.
In Cabo from LA. Cabo, yeah.
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Speaker 13 I will say this was a tough watch.

Speaker 1 Tough watch for all you people who ride hard for the ladies of this cast.

Speaker 8 I saw someone make a TikTok and they said that if you're fans of the Sierra Amanda page, you're like one of the toxic people on TikTok.

Speaker 9 Oh, because it was like, you can't realize that these are three mean girls like being mean to the one newbie. And I honestly, I saw it this episode.

Speaker 12 Same. It was rough.

Speaker 1 And well, and then on the fans, the supporters, the alleged toxic people on TikTok, their version is this is Lexi's fault because it's like they, their, their explanation is they clearly don't like Lexi.

Speaker 23 It's just like, well, yeah, we, we, we get it, but like, no, I think their take on it is like, this was a four-week relationship or six-week relationship. Like, why is she so upset?

Speaker 12 Why is she making it seem like it was some like two-year ordeal where all of them laughing while like talking about toe gate and it's like he cheated on Lexi and she's sitting right there and if that was Sierra like Sierra still

Speaker 1 would have been broken fucking loose.

Speaker 12 Yeah, Sierra

Speaker 12 Leone,

Speaker 1 she's not talking about

Speaker 9 well she's still she's still talking about the press he did like that the him going on his media tour still pisses her off.

Speaker 1 What why?

Speaker 9 Lexi can't be upset that like her boyfriend cheated on her and all of the people there are laughing.

Speaker 10 And it's like, but you want respect when like he does a press tour and mentions your name?

Speaker 1 And why does this cast seem to decide who can't and can't talk to press or do podcasts? Like they say it so condescendingly, like on your press tour, they act as they have these rules for their cast.

Speaker 1 I mean, again,

Speaker 1 you have a young woman who came on not knowing anyone on this cast, a newbie, younger than all these people, new.

Speaker 1 And like, again, I don't like, I think the whole girls girl, as Katie Maloney mentioned earlier, is the dumbest shit ever. It's if like it's like,

Speaker 1 it's just a dumb saying.

Speaker 17 But when Lexi came into the house, like, her focus was on Jesse, not like making friendships with these girls.

Speaker 1 So, like, how do you know what her focus was walking in the house? She walked in the house and met a guy she was attracted to and started liking him. And as if that's a crime?

Speaker 17 But what I'm saying is, while she's focused on Jesse, Paige, Amanda, and Sierra are having their own summer.

Speaker 17 So it's like all of a sudden now it's like because Jesse fucked up that it's like these girls don't have her back, but like they weren't like bonding.

Speaker 1 But then again, what is the definition of a girl's girl?

Speaker 7 I don't know, but I'd love to stop hearing it.

Speaker 1 It'd be same.

Speaker 1 Same. And again, I'm a judgy motherfucker.
I keep my circles small. I am loyal to my small group of friends.
Just own that.

Speaker 1 Just own the fact that like they are a clicky group that like doesn't fuck with most people. And if you're not one of us, we're not going to fine.

Speaker 1 Don't all season long self-identify yourself as like usually for the girlies.

Speaker 9 You know, I think this has less to do with what has happened all season and more of like what happened at this reunion because it has been how many months since they stopped filming?

Speaker 10 Like they've all gone on.

Speaker 8 You you know, Sierra's been on Watch What Happens Live. Lexi's done her podcast tour.

Speaker 8 Jesse's, like, they've all gone out and promoted this season of Summerhouse and talked about some storylines of what happened.

Speaker 8 But they had a chance to come to this reunion and be like, you know, we love Jesse.

Speaker 9 We're Team Jesse, but we don't support.

Speaker 7 the cheating. And they didn't do that.

Speaker 9 They like made it like it was so fucking funny that he was in that room with all these naked people, like getting his toe sucked while Lexi's sitting there being like, and the back and forth between Sierra and Jesse of, like, I don't want to fuck Jesse.

Speaker 9 He's like, come on, Sierra.

Speaker 29 She's like, shut that back up.

Speaker 13 And he's like, Sierra, your hair looks so good.

Speaker 8 Like, it was just so disrespectful on so many levels of like, you're doing that in front of this girl who clearly is like upset about what happened in her relationship with this man.

Speaker 9 And you have just like no consciousness of that whatsoever.

Speaker 1 Leaning into the sexual chemistry of your platonic friendship is the most while that while your friend is like pursuing a relationship with someone else someone who is in the same industry as you who like most many people could see as like someone you might want to compete with subconsciously is the most pick-me energy ever how can anyone disagree with that and i'm just and that's fine but like and listen i've i've been a pick me before i've done things for attention but it's just the way they all act as if they are incapable of that type of behavior and they're so critical of other people who give that type of behavior wait so what did y'all think of the reunion Those were our thoughts.

Speaker 1 What did y'all think? I enjoyed it.

Speaker 15 I love seeing people like, they are mean girls.

Speaker 15 They're reality TV stars. They're mean girls.
I love it.

Speaker 1 And I love to see, and I personally enjoy it.

Speaker 15 Yeah. That's the thing.
Like, that's why I'm like, I'm not mad at Paige or Sierra or Amanda for like

Speaker 15 being mean about it. Like, I'm like, yeah, give me more of it.
It's creating good storylines and things. Lean in, be worse.

Speaker 1 What I love about Paige.

Speaker 4 Lean into your worst tendencies.

Speaker 1 Is that she thinks she's better than most people and she backs it up. Yeah.
You know, I just would like her to own that aspect a little more often.

Speaker 15 I love it when people are unself-aware on TV. It makes for great television.
And so I'm just seated watching them all like be dumb.

Speaker 12 It's great.

Speaker 15 That's my take on the reunion. And I think Jesse's a loser.
Well,

Speaker 15 but he's a very charming, affable loser that I would want to hang out with.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, he's very charming and fun. I get why they want to be friends with him.

Speaker 1 I get why they're this more like, you know what, we need a couple fun guys in our group and we already have hot women and like we don't need a young girl who's still figuring her us out.

Speaker 1 Lexi's so like us seven years ago, like we don't have time for her. I get it.
I think the thing with mean girl.

Speaker 15 I think the thing with what really entertains me about the dynamic is that Jesse, like Jesse's friendship with these women is so,

Speaker 15 to me it reads, and maybe this is like, this is just my take on it, of like, they do not respect Jesse. They just find him entertaining and funny, and he's like their little plaything.

Speaker 15 Like, that's how, like, for Sierra, he's her little plaything.

Speaker 15 And she's not, like, respecting him in that way of like, no, I'm not going to fuck you.

Speaker 15 Like, I, you are just for my entertainment and enjoyment, because I know you will flirt with me and give me attention. I'm going to give it back to you because it's fun.

Speaker 15 And so then, and I think to her, she's probably like, that's obvious. And then for Lexi, Lexi's like, well, wait, what the fuck is going on here?

Speaker 15 Because she doesn't have that like set dynamic with him. So obviously she's really upset about it.
But then to Sierra, she's like, why are you mad? Like, I'm not, that's not what this is.

Speaker 15 But then I don't, I don't think that Lexi is wrong to feel that way.

Speaker 1 But it's just like Sierra acting as if Lexi has no reason to be upset is the most delusional thing I've seen, given just how she's the fact that we still talked about her and Wes a year fucking later.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It's crazy.

Speaker 1 It was honestly fascinating, though, Sierra talking about her family dynamic and talking about her mom and how her mom is per Sierra's POV, like, has a history of dating men unworthy of her.

Speaker 1 And it just seemed kind of ironic. I don't know.
I feel like it's not. I felt for her in that moment.
I know, I totally felt for her. It was just more like.

Speaker 9 I mean, Andy asked the question: like, do you think that's played a role in like the your dating choices?

Speaker 18 And she was like, Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 1 But her answer was, yeah, that's why I'm more.

Speaker 1 Sierra sees herself as incredibly picky and like has high standard. The men she dates suggests otherwise.

Speaker 9 I mean, Austin and West are definitely

Speaker 23 way below her

Speaker 12 what she could get.

Speaker 17 That's also like West did come to the reunion with an apology prepared, so it's not like he didn't know that this was going to be brought up again either.

Speaker 9 He did, and then he was like, I thought he had on himself pretty well.

Speaker 6 I think he did great.

Speaker 9 And then I think when Sierra was like, if you can talk to the press, you can talk to me. And it was like, oh, and we're bringing it back up again.

Speaker 1 We're still not over the press. Like, all right, let's go.

Speaker 9 like i feel like it that they're like on a on a road for healing because at least she was able to have conversations and and and actually talk to you she said his hair looks better no i totally think that like they needed to do that that was great for them i just think it was hypocritical for her to like still want to push that into west but not have any sympathy of lexi with her man cheating on her in the house like just thinking it's so funny.

Speaker 17 Well, I feel, I felt bad for Lexi when everybody was laughing because obviously Andy made a point point to point out being like, and the only person not laughing is Lexi.

Speaker 17 I'm like, I do think that the, the way that the conversation of Togate and even the name Togate being brought up, it's kind of like one of those things where it's like, I'm sure it's been a joke.

Speaker 8 Oh, it's so silly.

Speaker 1 Running throughout.

Speaker 17 So I'm like, at the same time, I don't think anybody was thinking about Lexi's feelings or trying to make her feel bad. But I'm like,

Speaker 17 the entire situation is just. So bat shit.
You went into a room for 37 minutes, got your toes.

Speaker 8 No, it's a slap in the face to everyone watching the show.

Speaker 9 Like, we're not this fucking stupid.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 14 Like, like, and Emerald being like, I have no reason to lie for him.

Speaker 1 Like, bro. Your job's on the line.
Come on.

Speaker 7 He came in at the end.

Speaker 17 He was late.

Speaker 17 We were all just naked, but just like having casual conversation, and you decided to lay on the bed.

Speaker 1 It's just that Lexi showed up. We didn't know anything about her.
It's also what? A double, a double beside their bed, like four people

Speaker 1 sitting on this. Like, you're getting cozy.
You're close to a boob, regardless.

Speaker 15 What is that nursery rhyme? That's like, there were four in the bed and the little ones had roll over.

Speaker 14 Somebody didn't.

Speaker 1 Lexi is this young woman who demonstrates the type of qualities that all of these women should want to get behind. She is poised.
She seems to like know her self-worth. She like speaks up for herself.

Speaker 1 She has a strong will. She came on our show and conducted herself wonderfully.
She's done, she's been gracious. Like she doesn't seem to be all that messy.
She speaks her truth.

Speaker 1 She'll stand up for herself. I don't think that's messy.
And it's just the fact that those qualities are the qualities that these women seem to dislike.

Speaker 1 I just find to be fascinating and kind of hypocritical. Like, it's just such an eye roll for them to, like, identify themselves as a girl's girl

Speaker 1 when they're more pick-me. I do believe Craig never bought that engagement ring.
I do believe that I don't know what to do. Craig definitely never bought that engagement.

Speaker 1 No, I absolutely believe Paige.

Speaker 1 We had to pause it because Goner's like, what do they mean?

Speaker 17 And I'm like, because when you buy a ring, it's already going to like depreciate the second you step out of the store because it's custom.

Speaker 17 If it's exactly what Paige wants, Paige doesn't want a manufactured, like standard ring. She's going to want like something engraved in it.
Tim said, there's my diamonds. I want the baguettes.

Speaker 17 Like you can't return that and be like, well, you could sell this under Craig's used.

Speaker 6 What I need, I need to know the place when he's like, I took it back to the guy this morning.

Speaker 8 Who's the guy?

Speaker 1 Who's the guy? Can I vouch for that? Name him.

Speaker 13 No, like, I need this guy to be like, oh, yeah, here's the ring.

Speaker 24 Like, yeah, Craig.

Speaker 13 Like, that's, and where is he?

Speaker 17 Even when she said the whole, like, you took your girlfriend to return my ring, I was like, well, you know, she's not gone.

Speaker 1 Well, also, think, like, when, when you get broken up with, you know, maybe there's not an engagement ring on the line, but that's a very common thing to be like, well, I guess I should just return this thing I got you, you know, like the last-ditch effort.

Speaker 1 It's a very like, did you want this Birkin or do I need to return it today? Like, that happens all the time in a breakup.

Speaker 17 Connor couldn't understand the concept.

Speaker 13 He was like, wait, so is he saying that if she saw the ring, that she would stay, like, like get married to him?

Speaker 17 And I was like, yes, that is the delusional statement that is being made right now.

Speaker 15 Yeah, him being like, I wish you would would have seen the ring first before you decide to be you know who you know who we need we need emma we need lisa barlow and bronwin's jeweler from salt lake city she would definitely get to the bottom of this

Speaker 1 that messy bitch she would definitely be like yep never seen him he's never been here before yeah i wouldn't put it past craig to find a jeweler to corroborate his story even if it was made up honestly yeah even like when they replayed the watch what happens live thing i was like just the way that it was just like yeah no i just went to the returned it i was like no you did not Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Him body language.

Speaker 1 I just chilly. Return it this morning.
Yeah. Tell me you're uncomfortable.
You're lying.

Speaker 15 My question: where does Craig go from here on Southern Charm? Like, every, like, I feel like everyone already knew he was a liar, but now everyone really just knows.

Speaker 1 Oh, I'm sure you're not.

Speaker 15 You cannot trust a single word that comes out of that man's mouth.

Speaker 1 They're going to breathe

Speaker 1 through this. He's a storyteller.
I just find what's fascinating about Summerhouse is that, again, I would say Lexi, West, and Jesse, they represent what Summerhouse is supposed to be.

Speaker 1 And honestly, everyone in this OG cast, you know, find a new job.

Speaker 1 I'll follow that show.

Speaker 17 And then, yeah, they should bring in new young people that want to be messy, that want to hook up in a house.

Speaker 17 Like, even to Kyle's point about Emerald, he was like, that is kind of what the whole point of a summer house, a summer share is.

Speaker 6 It felt weird because no one else was doing it.

Speaker 14 So it felt like, the fuck is Emerald doing here?

Speaker 9 Like, ew, gross.

Speaker 6 We don't do that because it's like we've been like with these people who aren't doing that for so long.

Speaker 17 And the irony of it all, too, is that it's like in the first season, how we meet Amanda is because Kyle sneaks Amanda into the house and they go like skinny dipping and they're having sex.

Speaker 17 And it's just like it's waking up everybody in the house. And it's just like, you guys were Emeril season one.

Speaker 15 Justice for Emeril.

Speaker 12 That's all I have to do.

Speaker 1 You seem like a sweet man. He does.
Also, thank you.

Speaker 13 Nick pointed this out, but the fact that Lexi, the new girl, was the only one to be like, we could have done better.

Speaker 5 Like, we could have asked you more questions.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was crazy.

Speaker 8 Yeah. That was telling.

Speaker 6 That like like, no one else who'd been there, not even Kyle, his buddy, could have been like, Yeah, bro, like, I definitely could have helped you like navigate some relationships a little bit better.

Speaker 10 No one else said anything but like they like.

Speaker 1 They basically casted three new people because they felt like they didn't want to do their jobs anymore and decided to be a bunch of dicks to this new cast. Like, that was the theme of the season.

Speaker 1 It's just like, we're gonna cast a bunch of people we're not friends with and use them and throw them out like trash when we're done with them.

Speaker 22 What? I mean, that's a take.

Speaker 1 Wait, what?

Speaker 1 Like, the original cast, they casted Emeril, emerald lexi and bailey and like they used them they used them for like the stuff they weren't willing to do and threw them to the side threw them to the wayside who used them producers the og cast this this group of people how did they use

Speaker 1 amanda like we know amanda like her lexi was the one who was like hey do you want to come on the show i guess kyle is the one who knew emerald like they found the you know they found these people and asked them hey do you want to be a part of this show with no real interest in becoming friends with these people or connecting with these people.

Speaker 17 But even when Alex Baskin was here, he was saying that like when they're recasting a show, they typically go to the cast and ask if you have any recommendations. But that like.

Speaker 1 I guess what I'm saying. It's just like they didn't cast people they wanted to become friends with to bring into the group to like running.

Speaker 4 Like they didn't bring like Paige's best friend from home or like someone that they were actually friends with.

Speaker 9 Like this was clearly Amanda and Lexi weren't

Speaker 1 friends. Like they

Speaker 6 were acquaintances. They'd had, they've gone to lunch before, grabbed a coffee.

Speaker 9 But like to Lexi's point, when Amanda's sitting there being like, oh my God, I always wanted them. Like, I just need them to hook up, knowing that your friend, Lexi, is dating this man is like,

Speaker 15 yeah, I agree.

Speaker 1 I do agree with you guys on that.

Speaker 15 I think they, they definitely like set the two of them up to kind of just be the fall guy for the season when they are all kind of like past.

Speaker 1 I mean, if I watch next season and Sierra's still complaining about Wes, I'm turning it off.

Speaker 15 It's like, I think by next season, that's fair. I think this season, I think this season it was like, well, yeah, there's going to be a blowout from it.

Speaker 15 Their dynamic has has changed she's gonna have feelings about it the reunion i think is just like a we're gonna talk about it at the reunion get that closure and then i don't want to hear about it anymore but we did talk about it all season i'm just are you convinced it's not going to happen i'm not convinced it's not going to happen i'm just saying i hope it doesn't we i was agreeing with you actually

Speaker 1 progress uh anything else before we want to move on to brianne i just want to say i thought we were all going to dress in like summer florals today i'm going to wear greens okay that's true i wear light color Okay.

Speaker 1 Douche black. I dressed for our next interview.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I just kind of feel like a clown. But he kind of

Speaker 1 giving foresty.

Speaker 15 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm giving, I'm giving like, I'm giving it's after Memorial Day and I'm ready for summer pants. Yeah.
No, you guys are all giving like classy, classy summertime entrance.

Speaker 3 And I'm can't wear white after Labor Day. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Exactly.

Speaker 18 This was Memorial Day.

Speaker 1 And that's why I'm wearing white pants. I think you said that wrong.

Speaker 1 Run it back. Anyways, Brianne Howie is up next, the star of Ginny in Georgia, Brianne Howie, who we get to chat with.
She is

Speaker 1 a very talented actress who does an incredible southern accent. So incredible that I really, I did, I was kind of a bit taken back when I realized that was a fake accent.
Anyways, she is

Speaker 1 also just a great person. And we can talk to her about motherhood, her acting career, how it's kind of, it's blown up, a fun conversation with Brianne, and her love for reality TV.

Speaker 1 Jenny and Georgia season three premieres this Thursday on Netflix. Check it out.
I'm sure many of you are big fans and you are well aware of it. It's a really great show.
It's fun.

Speaker 1 If you haven't checked it out and you like a kind of, how would you describe it? It's

Speaker 10 like a mystery. Murder, mystery.

Speaker 1 Gilmore Girls with Murder. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. High stakes.
In like an unsuspected badass lead that she plays who's a little messy. Yeah.
You know,

Speaker 1 a little problematic.

Speaker 17 You root for her, but you know that you probably shouldn't, but then like you do, because if you were in that situation, what would you feel like?

Speaker 1 It's got a little breaking bad element to it. Yeah.
It's fun. Anyways, Brianne Howey.

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Speaker 1 Brianne, welcome. Hi.
How are you?

Speaker 3 I'm wonderful. Thank you so much for having me.

Speaker 3 It's so nice to meet you.

Speaker 1 Have you? Oh my gosh. Yeah, we're so excited.
Been big fans, huge fans of Judy and Georgia. Oh my God, thank you.

Speaker 1 It's such a fascinating show because the character you play is so dynamic. Sure is.

Speaker 1 First of all, like as a young mother yourself, it's a kind of weird question people often ask, like, how do you relate to your character? I I imagine a lot of ways you don't relate to your character.

Speaker 3 Yeah, no, especially because like I was playing mom roles before I was a mom. So it was more just like relating to it in the sense of like, I have four younger siblings.
They're my whole world.

Speaker 3 I would do anything for them. So that was like the closest I could get.
But then, yeah, now I am actually a mom.

Speaker 23 So it's very different.

Speaker 9 Do you feel like you're...

Speaker 31 Like you act maybe a little bit better because you are now a mom? You know what happened?

Speaker 3 And I think, okay, so look, my daughter is a, she'll be two in a month. So we're still like, I mean, not totally beginning phases, but like she's still very little.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 I just felt like I was such a sap. Like, I just felt like I was so weepy all season.
And like, that I was like, god damn it, Brianne.

Speaker 1 Like, no, no, no, that wasn't the move.

Speaker 3 Like, so hopefully that will change. I think it was just like the first year going back at it, like just back to work and everything.
But I felt like it made me too soft almost.

Speaker 1 Interesting.

Speaker 16 Which isn't great for me. Like, everything is too relatable.

Speaker 1 Almost.

Speaker 3 Like, some of the stuff for this upcoming season, it gets so dark, in my opinion. Again, I was maybe too sensitive this this past season.

Speaker 1 I mean, it

Speaker 3 broke my heart.

Speaker 1 She murders people. Yes, yes.

Speaker 3 And like, yeah, wait till you see, yeah, like halfway through this season, everything that goes on. I mean, Georgia, like all of the consequences come to the surface this season.

Speaker 3 Like, she gets in a lot of trouble.

Speaker 1 So, one thing I was curious about, because like, obviously, well, we're hoping you don't relate much to your character.

Speaker 1 But, you know, as a new parent myself, there is like, and maybe it's a dad thing.

Speaker 1 I imagine now, you know, Natalie has some real like impressive like mama line energy, you know, very protective of her family. Absolutely.

Speaker 1 And I wondered if like, while you don't obviously relate to some of

Speaker 1 Georgia's antics, there must be an element of like the way she goes about protecting her family and surviving in a way that obviously as a good human being, you would never do.

Speaker 1 But is there an is there ever an element when you're playing the character where you at least appreciate her resiliency and just like how she's, you know, she really will, at the end of the day, protect her family?

Speaker 1 Oh, 100%.

Speaker 3 I mean, I like first and foremost, of course, Georgia is very polarizing, but like as someone playing Georgia, I would never judge her. Like in no way, shape, or form.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I have to, I love her and respect her. All of her shortcomings are only because she has a very limited toolbox, but I admire the amount of space she takes up.

Speaker 3 Like I feel like, who knows what I could have accomplished if I took up that much space all the time for my whole life.

Speaker 3 So I love that about her. And I love like the first, when I read the pilot for the first time, it was the scene where she like punches the kid in the face.

Speaker 3 Well, she doesn't really punch him, but like she twists his nose a little bit. And like the, you know, her son punches him.

Speaker 1 But like I went a little far for sure. For sure.

Speaker 3 But like I've had when my siblings told me someone was mean to them at school or something, the rage I feel inside. And I can only imagine once my daughter's old enough.

Speaker 31 Oh, me at the park with my 15-month-old, I, there will be, I don't know what it is about six, seven-year-old who just, they think she's so disgusting and will like run from her being like, ew, but like baby, baby.

Speaker 31 This little boy tried to like hit her with the swing and it took everything out of me not to

Speaker 12 assault a child, you know, like in like the most respectful way possible, of course.

Speaker 29 Yes.

Speaker 31 But like his parents were on their phone, like not paying attention.

Speaker 13 And I'm like, your kid is a terror terror on this playground. So I get.

Speaker 3 Unfortunately, in those moments, we can't do what Georgia would do.

Speaker 1 Exactly.

Speaker 31 Has there been anything that you've taken from your character parenting-wise and related to your real life

Speaker 1 daughter?

Speaker 3 You know, I mean, probably only, only bad things, unfortunately.

Speaker 3 Like, I, before I was a mom, I, I thought like the most annoying thing about Georgia was how all over Ginny she was and she's always in her space and like the entitlement that she expects to know everything about Ginny.

Speaker 3 I, I was like, I mean, that's, it's crossing a line. This is toxic, blah, blah, blah.
But now that I have an almost two-year-old, I'm like, nope, she's going to go to UCLA.

Speaker 3 We're going to have lunch every day. She's going to tell me everything.
I need to know. I need to know everything.
No. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm going to go to bed reading her text message. 100%.
She's not allowed to go to.

Speaker 3 No.

Speaker 1 I think before, yeah, we were parents. It's very easy to like talk about what you would never do when you see other parents

Speaker 1 crossing boundaries and then you're in it and you're just like, well.

Speaker 3 I'm like, of course she's going to watch Elmo right now. What are you talking about of course we're doing screen time and before I'm like no we will never have a phone out ever ever

Speaker 3 and now I'm like cue up miss Rachel it's time get the iPad yeah

Speaker 1 and now she goes iPad and I'm like oh no no I imagine when you like do go into season one there's obviously like the acting space is highly competitive and I think you know as a you're always as happy to like book the job right yes and then you get picked up for a season two and I'm sure you have utmost respect for the writers in the room and things like that.

Speaker 1 But as a character on the show, as a season matures, is there a balance between like the writers going to you and getting your input about the character?

Speaker 1 Or are you very much like, hey, that's their lane, I'll stay in mine? How does that dynamic work as a show matures?

Speaker 3 Yeah, it's an interesting point because it's also like this, this will be my first time going into a fourth season, like doing our third season.

Speaker 3 That was my first time doing a third season of anything. Yeah.
So you can't anticipate where these things are going or where the story's going, especially. I tend to stay in my lane.
I appreciate it.

Speaker 3 I think it's real, every now and then they will ask, of course.

Speaker 3 And maybe on other shows, it is a little bit more of a collaboration at times, but I think for us with Juni and Georgia, it's so specific, especially like with Georgia and her cadence.

Speaker 3 I love the way that they write for Georgia.

Speaker 13 It's so beautiful.

Speaker 3 So for the most part, I pretty much, they've gotten us this far. I really just trust them and I am impressed.
And I don't know how they come up with this stuff.

Speaker 3 Our creator in writer's room is amazing.

Speaker 24 Are you the type of actor who, like, do you want to watch it back?

Speaker 31 No, you don't.

Speaker 3 No. I do because I think it's so important.
And like, we have to, you know, come talk about the show. And like, it's nice to know.
You do so many different versions, so many different takes.

Speaker 3 It's fun to see, of course, how it all shapes out. But I for sure, I still struggle with being objective.
I don't know how people do that. It's so hard.

Speaker 3 I'll still be like, oh, I wish I did it this way. Or why'd they choose that take? Or I'm holding that thing weird or like, whatever.

Speaker 1 I don't know for sure. How did you prepare to play a character like Georgia?

Speaker 3 So, I mean, this is where I feel lucky that like there is. So like I grew up with a young single mom.
It's just was kind of kismet. There's so much of my mom and her energy in this character.

Speaker 3 Like I feel like I kind of grew up as Ginny a little bit. Like my mom had me at 21.
We didn't have any boundaries.

Speaker 3 So so much of what was on the page, I could relate to. It just wasn't.
I think a lot of what was jarring in Genie and Georgia just wasn't that jarring for me.

Speaker 3 I think, because like I have had some of those conversations.

Speaker 3 And I have so many younger siblings. With my parents remarried and had more, so I have half siblings, but we have larger age gaps.
So then I've always sort of felt like an aunt to them also in a way.

Speaker 3 Somehow it was just kind of natural.

Speaker 31 Do you do any sort of character study, maybe even like you did it in the beginning, but do you like refresh, or do you feel like you know Georgia to her bones?

Speaker 3 Definitely like with each season, of course, there's more confidence. Like for season one, we definitely had so many conversations with our creator that like we wanted Georgia to feel like,

Speaker 3 you know, she was kind of, she's the anti-hero a little bit. Like there's a little Tony Soprano in there.
There's a little bit of Walt from Breaking Bad.

Speaker 3 There's a little bit of Mary Louise Parker from Weeds. And we wanted that she was, she's kind of a collaboration of all these things.
And that when Georgia's big mad, she's the Hulk.

Speaker 3 And that's when we get scary Georgia. So we do like, I guess we did kind of color in all the different versions of Georgia because she also takes so many like hard right turns.

Speaker 3 So, it's like we're jumping from like scary Georgia to like, oh, goofy Georgia to like flirty Georgia.

Speaker 3 And then, also, depending on who Georgia's talking to, she's a very different person, depending on all the men in her life.

Speaker 3 Like, she responds and acts very differently with all of them and has a different mask on. So,

Speaker 3 season one, yeah, we actually got more specific in that way talking about the character.

Speaker 3 And then it, yeah, with each season getting like the luxury of getting to go back, it stays in you a lot longer, I think, than I anticipated.

Speaker 1 Now that uh, George is in court, I read, are you a fan of true crime? Sure, am were you able to pull from any like court cases that you followed or or just try to like emulate again, just like

Speaker 1 Caltro, maybe I know.

Speaker 3 Um, the I'm gonna forget the name now, but while we were shooting, I mean, are you guys big true crime people? Do you remember the case?

Speaker 1 Now he's huge.

Speaker 3 Okay, the woman, it's like the Boston police, and she's

Speaker 1 on right now.

Speaker 1 Karen second trial is it right now yes right you guys I'm so behind okay um she she honestly introduced me to it like the other day we've been fighting non-stop about it because he's like not on my side anymore first I was totally on her side at first I was like oh no like I've definitely seen it departed these cops are crooked like she definitely didn't do it but then the more I watched I'm just like unfortunate I know I thought it's crazy how like I've gotten so many DMs from locals really and they're like hairdressers and you they know the tea and they're like, she's definitely being framed.

Speaker 3 See,

Speaker 3 that was my first instinct. And that's what got me, okay, which is the perfect segue into Georgia that the Karen Reed trial was happening.

Speaker 3 And in my mind, I was like, Georgia would act like she was being framed too for all of this 100%.

Speaker 3 Like, that's exactly what Georgia would do.

Speaker 7 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So watching the trigger kind of reminded me a little Karen Reed a little bit, where it's just like this very likable.

Speaker 3 very charming defendant who you want to you want to believe her well and she and like like she knows what she's doing with her storytelling and like the way she

Speaker 3 i don't know all of all of the moves she was making were intentional and the way you dress and the way you act and the way you lean into the jury and um did you learn a lot about like the court system for i mean i'm sure yeah a little bit i mean we did that yeah you know you do the scene so many times you start to figure it out but it is crazy i feel like watching this karen reed trial yeah there's a lot of like you know don't sit like this smile don't smile but also maybe smile a little bit so that you don't look like such a bitch, but not so much that you're happy that, you know, it's like, I feel like there's a lot of, there's a lot to think about.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Like, yeah, like who's your body language, how you're being perceived.

Speaker 3 Totally.

Speaker 1 There's so many subtleties about, and I learned that being on reality TV where you're like, oh my God, like you, when there's a camera on you 24-7, just like picking up every little cork that you have or just like your resting face and just how like unfortunate that can be and how useful it is to an editor.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's like, you're just like, yeah.

Speaker 3 Do you still feel like have were you able to shake it?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, I've, I mean, my, I guess for better or worse, my gift was always just, I guess, being like, oh, this is who I am. I don't know.
Like, it's nothing I can do about it.

Speaker 1 But it was just more eye-opening. Yeah.
You know, like, I suppose as an actor, you get used to seeing yourself on camera playing a role.

Speaker 1 But before that, I just was like, I wouldn't listen to myself on a voicemail recording. So those were the days, right?

Speaker 3 And that's the only time you would hear your voice back. And you're like, that's what I sound like?

Speaker 1 I remember that. Yeah, it was such a weird thing.
And then I'm watching it back, leaving me like, oh my, I've never met this person. Like, oh my god.

Speaker 1 I hate her.

Speaker 13 Has your husband watched any?

Speaker 3 Oh, of course. Yeah, he does.
That was my first hint that maybe the show was going to go somewhere because Netflix put it in our account before it gets released. And it was season one.

Speaker 3 And I told him, I was like, all right, it's in our account. I was like, I'm going to go watch.

Speaker 1 I'm going to go watch some.

Speaker 3 And he's like, okay, I'll watch with you. And in my head, I'm like, all right, I'll stick around for one.

Speaker 1 He watched four in a row with me and i was like you don't have to watch this he's like no like let's watch the next one like what happens next and i was like oh my god we might be on to something yeah well there's something about you mentioned the you know walter and like there's the anti-hero there's something about those types of characters that we love because we may not be georgia we may not be walter but we all are imperfect people yeah who do a little better things that we're not proud of but like we want to believe that we're noble good people and for the most part we are And I think sometimes watching those complicated characters that we still want to root for, there's something to relate to, even though maybe we're not relating to the right.

Speaker 3 I think too, it's like people who can be victims of circumstance or feel like they fell through the cracks. You root for them in a different way because you really feel like it's not their fault.

Speaker 3 And like limitations that Georgia has and that all of us have to an extent isn't our fault. Granted, it's important to work on them.
And I think that's what this season does really well.

Speaker 3 It's like, okay, we're very aware now of every character's shortcomings. I'm like, what are we going to do about it, guys? So we finally start to see that this season, which is really cool.

Speaker 3 But I think because I think she's relatable in a lot to a lot of people in that way, because she is so far from perfect.

Speaker 1 We love a good meet, cute story. How did you meet your husband?

Speaker 3 So Matt and I met. How does this story go?

Speaker 1 It was a while ago now.

Speaker 3 It was like nine years ago. Okay, I went to NYU.
Matt went to new school. We're both from Southern California.
I grew up in Pasadena. He grew up in Santa Monica.

Speaker 3 We both are in New York at the same time never meet both finished school come back to la i start hanging out with his new york friends just through mutual friends and like just having a fun kind of like party summer it's the end of the summer matt appears out of nowhere to hang out with his friends and i'm like who are you and where have you been he was studying to take the bar so he just went mia for that summer but he finally took it then started like going back out again had a social life i was with all of his friends we ran into each other four nights in a row and have been together ever since then, basically.

Speaker 3 But when we got married, it wasn't until we were each saying our vows that he said in his vows that out of the four times we met, the final two, he found out where I was. They were not on accident.

Speaker 3 And this whole time, I thought it was like very serendipitous. And like, I can't believe we ran into each other four nights in a row, out and about in LA.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 your wedding's a good time. It's a safe place for baby stocks.
You know, it's like, you know, I don't know when a good time is going to be, but like, probably.

Speaker 1 You're not going to be spent on my

Speaker 3 I was, like, just crying and laughing.

Speaker 3 It was like, I felt silly, actually. I more just felt silly.
I was like, of course he did. Why did I think it was completely random four nights in a hundred years?

Speaker 1 I would have to go apologize to the cash register at Nelson's that I was telling.

Speaker 3 Like, I have told that story maybe 17 times

Speaker 3 very publicly. Of course.
But now we have the correct version. Okay.

Speaker 31 What is your, we have daughters in the same almost age.

Speaker 13 What like phase is she in right now?

Speaker 3 I mean, this girl is like running, monologuing. She's new sentences every day.
She is just a sponge. She's very independent.
She was like,

Speaker 3 if she's doing something and doesn't want to be interrupted, she'll be like, no, no, no, mama dare.

Speaker 3 Like, she doesn't want you coming close to her to like, I don't know, bother her, touch her, even like let her do it. She wants to like go up and down the stairs by herself, picking out her clothes.

Speaker 3 Oh, really? Uh-huh. I mean, and I'll just give her like two options, right? Like

Speaker 1 this shirt or this shirt. Yeah.

Speaker 3 She loves counting. She can count up to 15, but she will always skip four through seven.
Don't know.

Speaker 1 Like we hate this.

Speaker 3 I don't know. She loves going to the uh her little baby gym.
Like she like loves doing like somersaults and stuff.

Speaker 3 She still needs help, but like we went to the Getty on Sunday and there were kids like doing like 10-year-old girls like doing cartwheels and stuff.

Speaker 3 And then she goes and like tries to legit do these somersaults and she just goes into like a yoga pose kind of like downward dog and then falls to to the right.

Speaker 3 Perfect. But it's very sweet and cute.

Speaker 1 How are her, like, is she a tantrum?

Speaker 31 Kind of,

Speaker 31 how are we handling those?

Speaker 1 We're entering our tantrums.

Speaker 3 I would just start saying no sooner. We did.

Speaker 3 We didn't really, we haven't didn't use a lot of no's at first because I don't know, you want them to explore and it's so exciting and they learn something new and you want to try something different to be fun.

Speaker 3 Like one time we ate dinner outside and then now it's like, no, outside dinner.

Speaker 3 And like every night, i'm like oh we can't eat dinner outside every night i'm like i don't want to cave all the time but then you kind of just cave i read some quote that was like only say no if it's dangerous to like them or someone else i've been thinking about that but then she's like i'm like it's not that bad but then i'm like now she's kind of running the house that's the thing about the internet times you really got to be careful whether it's getting your karen read news or or like parenting advice because like anything can sound good if if worded correctly with like a nice soothing voice well and you know what i think the the one thing that's working instead of like just saying the same thing 19 times like it's bath time it's bath time it's bath time she's like no no no it's like do you want to be a shark yeah let's go be shark like what have you that's working the most wait that's great rebranding what yes what is like what is your favorite toddler rebranding yeah that's like i saw and i actually okay i did see this on instagram which is embarrassing but it was like some woman said to get her kid her toddler to eat um fish she called it beach chicken

Speaker 3 And then the kid was like, I want beach chicken. And I was like, that's genius.
It's all rebranding, closer to the toddler age, but it's just rebranding. And it's like,

Speaker 1 yeah, and like brushing her teeth.

Speaker 3 I'm like, let's get the like.

Speaker 12 My sister used to sugar buttons.

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly. Let's get the buns out.

Speaker 3 Or like, she has a really fun toothbrush. Or like, and like people have told me, like, when it comes time to potty train, like, just cave and get the like Barbie underwear or whatever they want.

Speaker 3 That's exciting. And like, whatever, fine.

Speaker 1 As a second oldest of 11, I grew up watching a lot of Disney programming. And then I haven't in quite some time.
I've been re-watching a lot of

Speaker 1 old Disney movies. Is that something that you guys relate to? And then have you found that any of them don't hold up?

Speaker 3 I mean, she loves Little Mermaid. The thing about her is like...

Speaker 3 I mean, she's obsessed with Moana. I've only seen, though, the first like 12 minutes, but like 19 times.
She only likes it when she's a baby. Like she only wants to watch baby Moana.

Speaker 3 And we went, we were, we took a flight most recently. so actually and moana was on the plane and it was the first time we made it a little bit deeper in but i was like it's kind of scary

Speaker 1 like some crazy stuff happens i feel like most of them are scary and it's i'm confused i watched aladdin for the first time in a while and i was like it feels too adult yeah what but i watched frozen for the first time really he cried

Speaker 8 i haven't even watched it yet I honestly, I think I've only watched like the first 12 minutes as well.

Speaker 12 So

Speaker 13 she was no longer paying attention and Nick was still sitting watching.

Speaker 1 You know, know, like the sister bond, I was really charmed by that and it like made me really want to have

Speaker 1 a sister forever. I don't know.

Speaker 1 I was.

Speaker 1 Movies, movies get me, you know? I did read, what is that headline somewhere? Like, people who cry in movies are apparently smarter or something. Yes, of course.
Did you just make that up?

Speaker 1 No, it's just a group chat.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I saw that note of the people who fall asleep watching true crime as well.

Speaker 25 Yeah, people who smart smoke a lot of weed also are probably very geniuses.

Speaker 1 It says there's no definitive evidence to suggest that people who cry while watching movies are inherently smarter.

Speaker 3 There's evidence. It's just not good.

Speaker 1 Evidence from the people who do it.

Speaker 13 Is she closer to you or your husband?

Speaker 8 Or are y'all kind of equal?

Speaker 3 I mean,

Speaker 3 look, she's a little bit closer with me, but I also like, I work a lot. And like, Matt's amazing.
And like, he can work from home ever since COVID.

Speaker 3 So I would not be able to work at the capacity that I do without him like being as hands-on as he is. But, you know, of course, there's like, for now, we, yeah, we want mama.

Speaker 1 Did you enjoy when you met Matt, like the fact that he wasn't in entertainment? Yeah.

Speaker 3 For me, it just makes me, I don't know. It just, yeah, I like the separation of church and state.
I think like the industry can be so weird and it's such a bubble.

Speaker 3 And like, you can, or I could get really in my head about things. And keeps you grounded in a way.

Speaker 1 So much.

Speaker 3 Like, it's very nice.

Speaker 1 You have an amazing accent

Speaker 1 in Georgia. Is that something you had to develop or were you always really good at that type of acting?

Speaker 3 No, we worked on it. We had a dialect coach season one, especially to like, of course, for me.
And then also two of the main actors are Australian, Felix and Diesel.

Speaker 3 So Felix plays the cute boyfriend and then Diesel's Georgia's son or Austin. And then also the Canadians, just for a couple of mums here and there.

Speaker 3 But no, we had a dialect coach and that was super helpful.

Speaker 1 Is that fun to do? Or like for me, I'm so bad at accents. It would just be like such a, it would take up so much brain capacity.
I mean, you're already acting, which is already like a, yeah, it's.

Speaker 3 I would say the one thing, like, I would normally be able to improvise a lot more, but like improvising with the accent is a little bit trickier.

Speaker 3 But kind of going back to what I was saying before, too, like the way they write Georgia, the accent is almost built in, like the cadence, they're so good at it that like I hear.

Speaker 3 the Georgia accent when I'm reading it because I think they write it in.

Speaker 23 Is it easy for you to like slip it into the conversation?

Speaker 3 Like season one, for sure, it was like I was going through like like with iambic pentameter and like crossing out all the G's and like doing the diphthongs and like stuff that I learned in college that I thought would never come in handy.

Speaker 3 Oh my God, I'm gonna, I like had an old CD from college about like tips and tricks. And I was like, I don't even think laptops have, I can't insert a CD anywhere anymore.

Speaker 3 But so yeah, seasons one and two, like one definitely required the most work, but it's cool. It does stick with you.

Speaker 3 But yeah, like I'll also go back and like watch or like even listen to some country songs, a little Reba.

Speaker 1 Very

Speaker 1 It says here you're watching the studio. Yes.
As someone who works very much in the industry, have you found it to be like wonderfully like relatable and charming? Yeah. Are you guys watching it?

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Okay.

Speaker 3 The one take where like the when he goes to set. Oh my God.

Speaker 12 Hardest episode to watch.

Speaker 3 I was dying. I have never seen anything so relatable and hysterical and they nailed it.
They did. It just, the stakes are so high.

Speaker 3 Like trying to get the light, like making sure you get that magic hour light and in one take. And like, I mean, the stakes are, you have the weight of the world on your shoulders.
And they nailed it.

Speaker 3 I thought it was amazing.

Speaker 1 Have you been able to like interact with a lot of executives? Because I feel like what I, what's cool about this show is they do humanize.

Speaker 1 a character in Hollywood that we often don't talk about or get access to. So much so like the, I love the Golden Globes episode where it was just like,

Speaker 1 so good. You know, just like the show.
I'm not going to win. Of course I'm going going to win.

Speaker 1 The validation like his character needed. I just thought was like, just so

Speaker 3 relatable. Like, yeah.

Speaker 31 Has there been a moment where you kind of like saw yourself in that character of Zoe Kravitz, where you're like, I need to not, but maybe I will, but no, no, I won't.

Speaker 1 But I think I will.

Speaker 3 Honestly, I actually was like, maybe that's the move. Like, maybe that is the move.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no, no, no, of course not.

Speaker 3 No, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 Oh, it's not about that.

Speaker 3 Because I kind of bought it in the beginning.

Speaker 1 And I was like, good for her. Me too.

Speaker 3 So I actually kind of admired it. Yeah, maybe that is.
Yeah.

Speaker 31 Has there been like a highlight or a favorite memory of this past month that you've had?

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 3 I mean, actually, quite, I've had, this has been a really fun month. I got to go to Beyonce.

Speaker 1 So that was my favorite thing.

Speaker 13 How was Blue Ivy?

Speaker 3 I mean, so I have been saying ever since I got pregnant, like my daughter will never be in the entertainment industry ever, ever.

Speaker 3 And then watching Blue Ivy on stage with Beyonce, I was crying and I was like, she could do it. She could be an actress if she wants.

Speaker 1 It's okay.

Speaker 1 It's okay.

Speaker 31 That was a really, I, I don't know if it's, they're doing a documentary or something, but I saw where, like, the first time she went out, Blue was, I don't know, like, young, and the response was very negative because she had just kind of like jumped in and she was like, no, I read all those.

Speaker 13 I've been grinding with these dancers.

Speaker 1 You could take every day.

Speaker 20 And she doesn't know how to do it.

Speaker 3 So good.

Speaker 3 She owned the stage. Like, it was, it was an incredible two and a half hours.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 3 It was, I'm so proud of her.

Speaker 1 Don't know her. So proud of her too.
I mean, what, what is is something if let's say your daughter decided to get into entertainment? Yeah.

Speaker 1 You know, like you're someone who's made a whole career out of it. I don't know you that well.
I've just gotten to know you. You seem like a really grounded, like normal,

Speaker 1 cool person.

Speaker 1 And I imagine like any parent like yourself who's in entertainment, whose initial thought is, I don't know if I want my child to do that, is that fear of just kind of how Dolulu like Hollywood can be and how out of touch it's easy to get to, you know, just because it is so, I don't know, it's so self-serving.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's a bubble.

Speaker 1 And like, it's, you know, so what do you think has allowed you to stay grounded to be, you know, a very relatable, normal person, all while also being incredibly successful in the space?

Speaker 3 Well, thank you. For an industry that doesn't have, like, there's nothing linear about this.
Like, you could, everyone's path is so different and looks so different. I've had a shockingly linear path.

Speaker 3 Like, I started out with one line and then that turned into a couple of lines.

Speaker 3 Like, I didn't really skip any steps and like I went to college and like I felt like I was a little behind when I graduated because everyone I was auditioning against didn't and like had four more years on their resume and like of like, you know, pay like hitting the pavement.

Speaker 3 So I think because

Speaker 3 yeah, I've like kind of had a steady pace. Nothing happened too soon too fast, to be honest.
Yeah, I think that. has kind of helped.

Speaker 3 And then I've always, yeah, I've worked like pretty steadily this whole time, but Ginny and George is the first thing that like took off into the stratosphere in this way.

Speaker 3 Like like none of the other stuff did and it's still I'm so proud of it and it's amazing But this is one of the first things that like really launched I mean that's a that's a good point.

Speaker 1 I mean, I think you know I for me I you know, I didn't go on reality TV until I was in my early 30s a lot of my peers It was like my early 20s. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And I'm honestly like really grateful for that because had I done that 10 years earlier

Speaker 1 How I handled myself, I think would have been very different and a lot less healthy and I would have been a lot less resilient. And yeah,

Speaker 1 you must feel like a little bit that's now that you look back, I'm sure there were times early in your career where you, you know, you compare yourself to someone else and you wish you got this and oh, you saw someone's like star rise faster than yours.

Speaker 1 But now that you're in the position that you're in, yeah, I imagine you've been able to almost feel like you've been able to both have like this wonderfully cool normal life and then follow like fulfill your dreams at the same time.

Speaker 3 That's very sweet. Look, I'm still comparing myself to people, of course, but that's a really nice way of framing it.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 That being said, do you feel like now, kind of you mentioned is like, do you kind of feel like it's like, you know, it's like, now it's kind of getting my time. Like, things are pumping.

Speaker 1 Like, I don't know. Like, I think it's all kind of happening for me, like a little bit.

Speaker 3 It's been a great year.

Speaker 3 Like, it was really cool to get to go do, like, right before we shot season three, I got to do a movie with Netflix called Kind of Pregnant with Amy Schumer and an incredible cast.

Speaker 3 It was with Happy Madison. And

Speaker 31 didn't I hear that you used like your

Speaker 1 story? Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 And that was all like like in, none of that was in the script. And Amy called me the night before and was like, let's just up the ante.
Let's take this to the next level.

Speaker 3 Like, would you be willing to talk about your birth story? And I was like, for sure. Let's, I mean, I'm very nervous to do this, but yeah, let's go do this.

Speaker 31 Had that ever been something that you had talked about publicly before?

Speaker 1 No. No.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 2 I know. Were you like nervous?

Speaker 1 Of course. Of course.

Speaker 3 Because also, like, I don't even know how much I've really processed all that still probably.

Speaker 3 Like, I guess that's kind of what the movie is about is that like this happens and then you don't process any of it. And like, it's just welcome.

Speaker 22 You're just thrown into the

Speaker 3 yeah, but no, especially because, like, I don't know, I remember when I was pregnant, I heard so many scary, scary stories, and it freaked me out.

Speaker 3 And, like, I didn't want, I don't want to like perpetuate that for everybody. Cause, like, up until that happened, everything was very smooth.

Speaker 1 How was your experience?

Speaker 13 Mine was honestly very lovely.

Speaker 31 I got an epidural, and I would love to have one of those maybe every Saturday night.

Speaker 18 Why not?

Speaker 1 Mine be, why not?

Speaker 24 And it, everything worked out how it should have.

Speaker 31 And

Speaker 4 my mom was there recording.

Speaker 18 Nick was

Speaker 13 so we were able to, a few days later, a week or so later, once we had like come down, be able to look back and watch it back.

Speaker 31 And we saw that like the umbilical cord was very much wrapped around her neck.

Speaker 13 And like, we didn't know that until a week later. So like we were just glad that everything happened the way it did and we were able to be as present as possible.

Speaker 13 But in one of those videos, it was really sweet.

Speaker 23 She, they took her to get her like nose sucked out or whatever.

Speaker 18 And she was crying.

Speaker 31 And Nick went over there to her.

Speaker 1 And she just like stopped crying and like turned her head to him and it was like she knew his voice and it was the sweetest thing ever it is crazy they really do know the beliefs they know they really do even those those moments obviously like you know obviously complications aside can make moments like that traumatic and certainly memorable but like it's like some of those like life's biggest moments you anticipate your whole life, whether it was our wedding or the birth of our child, you're like, wait, that just, it's over?

Speaker 1 It happened? Like, it just goes so surreal.

Speaker 1 Because in your head you imagine it to like you think time's gonna slow down yeah you know you imagine there's gonna be like a marching band performing you know and you're just like wait that was that was over

Speaker 1 there was a little blip yeah and it was i that was kind of one of my takeaways like oh that was awesome and magical and amazing she's here but like wait what just happened what happened like i thought that that happened on me like it was a really crazy experience out of body is there a moment of your birth that you look back and you are obviously there was a lot that happened but is there moments that you can like pick and choose from that do make you happy?

Speaker 3 And, like, you know, you see, yeah, I mean, honestly, so many. Like, I like, yeah, I'll never forget her laying on my chest for the first time.
I'll never, I mean, I, God, no, I'm gonna cry, you guys.

Speaker 3 No, it's I remember when they did, like, they went to go weigh her for the first time. And then my Matt walked over and looked at her and he like put his hand towards her and she gripped it.

Speaker 1 And he just started calling.

Speaker 3 Yes. I've never seen him cry so hard.

Speaker 1 Um,

Speaker 3 but also, I, she started coming out so fast. He almost missed the whole thing.
He went to go get food.

Speaker 3 He went to go, he went to Excel across the street. We were at Cedars.
He almost missed the whole thing because it was 25 minutes. Like it happened very fast.

Speaker 1 Yeah, mine was fast.

Speaker 4 She was like crowning and they're like, yeah, your doctor's parking.

Speaker 3 We'll just keep you there for a moment.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 They were like, oh, hold on. She's not here yet.
And they're like, and where's daddy?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 I was like, he's getting food. They're like in the cafeteria, right? And I was like, nope, he has left the vicinity.

Speaker 1 That's what I mean. He is long gone.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 20 He's like, I'm not eating this.

Speaker 3 He walked in holding tater tots, and they go, Dad, grab a leg.

Speaker 3 And then he was like, What?

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 3 What? What? And I was like, it's happening now. And he's like, they said it was going to happen in the afternoon.
And I was like, it's happening now.

Speaker 1 He's like, wait, but if we just, can we just look at the top?

Speaker 3 And then he's like, do you want a tater tot? And I was like, no, it's happening now.

Speaker 3 We got to go.

Speaker 1 We've got to go.

Speaker 3 But like that, when I think about that, it makes me laugh.

Speaker 1 That's a sweet moment.

Speaker 3 And the nurses were so sweet. And one of my nurses had on Real Housewives of Orange County Scrubs, but it was the meme of Taylor with the calves.
Have you seen that one before?

Speaker 3 It was all over her scrubs. And I just felt like it was a sign from the universe.
And I was like, you're my girl. I'm like, we're meant to do this together.

Speaker 1 And what's your favorite housewives franchise?

Speaker 3 I mean,

Speaker 3 probably

Speaker 3 each season is so different. But like, I thought Beverly Hills was amazing this season.
OC, like, lost its, its way, but it's been bad. Like, the last two seasons of of OC, I thought were amazing.

Speaker 3 And then Salt Lake has always delivered. New York, I've always loved, but I wasn't as enthralled with like the most recent installment.

Speaker 1 So it just depends. Have you been in Indo-The Valley?

Speaker 3 No, I'm, but only because I'm behind. Okay.
I'm going to.

Speaker 18 That one's crazy. It's so dark.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It's just dark.

Speaker 1 It's also awesome. Yeah.
Well, dark makes me great reality TV. Yeah.
It's just, you know, maybe it's as a new parent.

Speaker 3 Are there a lot of divorces this season or is it just the one?

Speaker 1 Two. The one.
Two. That's Jackson Brittany and Michelle.
Yeah, it's, you know, as a fan of reality TV and being in the season of life, I really appreciate The Valley.

Speaker 1 It's sometimes a tough watch because you're like, we cover it. I've been a part of it.
I don't think people, and

Speaker 1 as a host of this show,

Speaker 1 I don't think fans of reality TV fully appreciate. what reality stars are willing to do for our entertainment.
Oh, we owe them everything.

Speaker 3 Everything. I could never never do it.

Speaker 1 Never.

Speaker 1 And so, like,

Speaker 1 I'm trying to find that balance between, you know, like, as, you know, we love to critique and talk about it and use it as like a launching pad for conversations about our lives. You know,

Speaker 1 it's easy to be critical, especially like their willingness to show things that you're like, I don't know.

Speaker 1 I just seems a little wrong.

Speaker 1 But at the same time, I'm just like, oh my God, thank God people are willing to do that.

Speaker 3 You can't judge them because they're doing a great service. They are.

Speaker 20 Truly.

Speaker 1 They really are.

Speaker 31 Is there, did you watch Secret Lives of Mormon Wives season one? Of course.

Speaker 1 I loved it.

Speaker 6 What is your favorite reality?

Speaker 31 Like, you're sitting at home.

Speaker 1 You can turn them all on.

Speaker 8 Which one of you could.

Speaker 1 I love a below deck.

Speaker 3 Really? I know. It's kind of random.

Speaker 1 I love a below deck.

Speaker 3 I just love it. Because it doesn't.
Housewives can also get dark and toxic. Yep.
And we want them like a little dark and toxic, but not so much.

Speaker 3 Like, I hate it like when like we have to put people on pause. Like I miss Dorinda.
Yeah. Like I don't, but I want everyone to be okay, you know? So below deck is like a nice, safe.

Speaker 3 There's a little fantasy to it, and like the hookups are so fun, and you've got the upstairs and the downstairs, and there's new guests every week, and you're going to a beautiful place.

Speaker 1 And in those tiny little bunks, there's always good drama, but it's like nefarious drama, like, well, for the most part, but then when they're super toxic, they get sent off, exactly, yeah, which actually does happen like every third episode, year higher, yeah,

Speaker 1 we're like, all right, we're going to sit down to dinner after we just outed your ex-husband. Like, okay, let's go.

Speaker 23 Below deck is probably your favorite too, right, Sierra?

Speaker 3 Uh, no, Summer House, Summer House, Summer House has rained on that too, but I love Summer House. That's

Speaker 1 good fun.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's relatively, it's not as toxic.

Speaker 3 I mean, you know, there's do you guys do Southern Charm?

Speaker 1 Yes, we do it all.

Speaker 31 Yes, we were just, um, we just and we're in the south and we walked past a sewing down south

Speaker 1 storefront. How's it doing?

Speaker 12 It looks so big on the show.

Speaker 1 It was huge. I was very impressed.
Wow. Like, I was like, good for you, Chris.

Speaker 3 He's really doing it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, I did. It was like a weekday, so it wasn't like a high-traffic day, but there was like

Speaker 6 so many pillows.

Speaker 7 Amazing.

Speaker 13 So many and his face everywhere.

Speaker 3 Years ago. So truly just still thriving.

Speaker 1 He is.

Speaker 13 He is still. Did you ever watch Southern Hospitality?

Speaker 1 A little bit. Yeah.

Speaker 3 It didn't, it didn't, I didn't like sink my teeth in in the same way.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't think I did either.
Yeah. What was your intro to reality TV?

Speaker 3 It was probably like a cupcake wars.

Speaker 3 And, but I also remember watching Real Housewives of Orange County with my mom the first season and her saying that like someone she worked with always wanted to live in Coto de Casa.

Speaker 3 And she was like, I've heard about this place like let's go like let's check it out

Speaker 3 um

Speaker 3 so that and yeah there's like early early days what else gonna be

Speaker 3 the hell i did a little survivor not as much

Speaker 31 this one show i've never seen survivor i've tried to get nick to watch it so many times i don't currently watch but people are oh my god i feel like the og seasons i mean as i'm sure like most seasons are but yeah og is definitely really good so it's still fun for you to watch reality tv even though it was such a big part of your life.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, I, you know, I still like,

Speaker 1 it's, I'm sure, like, as an actor, when you're watching, you know, I've done a little bit of acting and even then, I, you know, I, I can watch something now and be like, wow, that was, I mean, before I ever even tried it, you just watched it and you just appreciated the storyline as opposed to being like, that was an amazing performance.

Speaker 1 Wow. Like that person was acting and that was great.

Speaker 1 And with reality TV, there's certainly moments where I'm either like kind of rolling my eyes because it feels a bit forced or staged.

Speaker 1 I think reality TV in the past used to get away with professional wrestling where they used to pretend it was real.

Speaker 1 And reality TV used to be like, no, this is, you know, when I was on The Bachelor, they had me go knock on our room. And so they had me like go to the hotel and get the key.

Speaker 1 And then I had fans being like, why is that person giving them the key? It's just like, I had a camera.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 You know, like, come on. And I think now fans are more educated about how reality TV is made.
And sometimes I get frustrated that networks aren't like keeping up with how intelligent fans are getting.

Speaker 1 And I wish they would like break the fourth wall a little bit more because like we all know rather than pretending that like the fake therapy on Bravo just always gets me.

Speaker 1 It's just like, come on. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Or a couple's therapist or like life coach or something.

Speaker 3 And it's, no, I think breaking the fourth wall, you're right.

Speaker 3 But I also, you kind of bring up a good point that reality TV has changed so much because one of the other shows that I got so into was 90 Day Fiancé. Did you guys ever do that?

Speaker 1 I do that still.

Speaker 3 I'm still in the last one. It's not, what season is it in?

Speaker 1 I don't know. I don't know.
We're doing various resort.

Speaker 12 There's like part five of a reunion.

Speaker 3 But like season one truly felt like a documentary. But like now it's such a big show.
It feels like people are trying to go on it just to like they, everyone's too self-aware now.

Speaker 3 It changes the feeling for sure.

Speaker 12 That's how definitely Bachelor feels these days.

Speaker 13 It's like, it's, we.

Speaker 3 Everyone knows why they're going on. They know what they're going to get out of it.
It's less.

Speaker 5 They're all, as soon as like the show's airing, everyone's pretty good.

Speaker 1 All right, she is

Speaker 6 pumping out their TikTok trends.

Speaker 31 You know, it's very, yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, Brianne, before we let you go, I want to play the trailer for season three so the folks

Speaker 1 can get a little bit of a sneak peek and uh see what to look forward to from the next season of Ginny and Georgia.

Speaker 4 You know what I loved about your wedding?

Speaker 22 It wasn't this cookie-cutter copy and paste affair, it was very memorable,

Speaker 3 especially the part where I was arrested.

Speaker 1 Exactly.

Speaker 3 My mom's awaiting her murder trial, and everyone at school is looking at me like I'm in the circus.

Speaker 1 It's fun.

Speaker 22 Your college essay writes itself.

Speaker 1 First to be murdered's life without the possibility pro

Speaker 1 life.

Speaker 1 You will be on house arrest, monitored with an ankle bracelet until trial.

Speaker 3 Why is it beeping? I'm not running away. I'm in my damn house.

Speaker 1 It needs to be charged. Oh.

Speaker 30 I cannot believe that this is my life sometimes.

Speaker 3 Julie really needs us right now.

Speaker 30 I've always known my mom was different.

Speaker 30 There's more to her that people don't see.

Speaker 3 Everyone thinks I'm a violent, unhinged monster.

Speaker 1 You can't give up.

Speaker 1 Please, it can't get any worse, right?

Speaker 1 Except if I go to prison, that would be worse.

Speaker 1 Order!

Speaker 3 I'm not a bad person, but if you come face to face with Bag,

Speaker 3 you become a little bad yourself.

Speaker 1 I want to protect you from all this. Mom needs me.
This was a test.

Speaker 3 You think you have the whole story, but you don't.

Speaker 1 No more secrets.

Speaker 10 I've been defending my mom to everyone.

Speaker 1 Keep the pushing on that that goes back.

Speaker 3 I am trying so hard to protect her, but I don't even know if it's the right thing to do.

Speaker 1 I don't want my mom to go to prison.

Speaker 1 Do you think she did this?

Speaker 3 We're in this together.

Speaker 3 Where are we riding, and why do we have to die?

Speaker 1 You literally look like a badass walking into that corner. Oh, you did.
I was like, oh, period.

Speaker 3 And the accent is so good. Oh, thank you.

Speaker 4 Being from the south, I watched.

Speaker 10 Where are you from?

Speaker 25 I'm originally from Auburn, Alabama.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God.

Speaker 24 And then lived in Savannah, Georgia for before I moved here.

Speaker 3 So if you have like a glass of wine, is it really coming out?

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Oh, when she gets on the phone with her sister,

Speaker 16 yeah.

Speaker 31 If honestly, if we have like a country artist guest, people, and like the amount of DMs being like that accent was so insane that it just like falls out of me.

Speaker 13 But it's really good. Sometimes

Speaker 31 it's hard to watch some people do southern accents and it feels

Speaker 4 very like yours is it comes off very natural.

Speaker 3 Thank you so much. That means a lot coming from you.

Speaker 1 Thank you. Yeah, I was like, I was like, I'm pretty sure this isn't her real voice.

Speaker 3 But some after, like, when it first came out and I would send in self-tapes, they would think, they would be like, oh, no, she could do her regular accent. It's okay, thinking it was Southern.

Speaker 3 Like, they'd be like, she doesn't have to put on a neutral American.

Speaker 3 And they were like, no, this, she's not from the South.

Speaker 1 This is her accent.

Speaker 1 Well, congratulations. Obviously, we're very excited about it.
It's a great show, and I'm excited for people to watch season three and come back again.

Speaker 3 Thank you so much.

Speaker 1 Thank you so much for watching. Thank you.

Speaker 1 Well, I just want to thank you to our guests, Katie and Dana from Disrespectfully, as well as Bri and Howie.

Speaker 1 Tomorrow, don't forget we have a going deeper with Dakota from the hit show, Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. It's got over a billion streams.
I mean, that show is crushing.

Speaker 1 That's like 100 million per episode. That's crazy.

Speaker 1 I'm three of them.

Speaker 1 Three, Bill?

Speaker 1 No, I'm just three.

Speaker 17 Like, I've watched the whole series three times over.

Speaker 1 Well, Dakota, obviously,

Speaker 1 some might consider a problematic character. Complicated man.
Complicated man.

Speaker 1 We get a little backstory, a little insight on his relationship with the star. We will see you tomorrow.
Bye.