E990 – Going Deeper with The Nader Sisters

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Speaker 4 You're crazy, I guess.

Speaker 5 Ladies, welcome to the show.

Speaker 3 Thank you. Thank you for having us.

Speaker 5 It's so great to be with you. We have Brooks.
We have Grace Ann.

Speaker 3 We have Wade. Mary Sarah Jane.

Speaker 5 That's Mary Holland.

Speaker 3 Yeah, there's eight names.

Speaker 5 Why don't you have a middle name?

Speaker 3 I do have a middle name. You don't like it? But no, I liked it.

Speaker 3 It's just when I first moved to New York and I was modeling and I was with all these crazy New York people in fashion and they're like, what's your name? And I would say, it's Brooks Claire.

Speaker 3 They're like, which fucking name is it, Brooks or Claire? And I was like, Brooks.

Speaker 3 I just had to pick Elaine and I just stuck with it.

Speaker 5 Yeah, but how have you been able to keep your middle name?

Speaker 3 It's very annoying, honestly. I have to, everyone's always like, Sarah, nice to meet you.
And I have to say it's Sarah Jane. I go by SJ too, which I think makes it easier.

Speaker 3 But people always think I'm saying like Sarah Guay, why? Like, or like Sergey. And I'm like, okay.

Speaker 5 And then it would be hard to hive GA, like general admission. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Oh,

Speaker 3 everybody gets me. I know.
No, general admission is a no for me backstage only.

Speaker 3 I go by Gann, Grace Ann Nader. So that's kind of what I'm what I'm rolling with.
And Ganimal. I was like, why are they calling me that? Yeah.

Speaker 3 So everyone calls me Gann, and they have since sixth grade. So that's a safe one.
You can always use it. Ganimal, though.
Ganymel, yeah. If I'm in my party zone, I'm Ganimal.

Speaker 5 Now, is that something your parents like instilled in you you ladies when they named you?

Speaker 4 I do feel like that's a southern thing.

Speaker 3 Totally, yeah. It's very southern.
My parents still call me. Like, if I'll be doing a press day or like I'm doing some event, my parents will shout, like, it's Brooks Clare.
Yeah. Like, shut up.

Speaker 3 It's fine.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Fine.
Okay.

Speaker 5 Well, love Dinator.

Speaker 3 It's great. It's really, really good.
It's a really nice watch.

Speaker 5 And not that I know anything about reality TV, but I was one of the few people who said that Secret Lives of Mormon wise would be a massive hit before everyone else jumped on the bandwagon.

Speaker 3 Wow. Starting to know, what are you saying?

Speaker 5 It's big. I really think you ladies have something here.
I'm really excited for you.

Speaker 3 Thank you.

Speaker 3 We left it all on the table.

Speaker 5 You guys have a really, I mean, is that something you guys always dreamt of doing?

Speaker 5 Not necessarily, oh, like we're going to have a reality TV show, but like as you ladies grew up together, clearly the bonds there.

Speaker 5 Did you guys all kind of look in the mirror and been like, I'm a star kind of thing? Or where did that

Speaker 3 kind of energy come from? That one did.

Speaker 3 I can't lie. She honestly thought she was a star.

Speaker 3 And she believed it into maybe almost reality, I think. Highest form of manifestation.

Speaker 3 I don't think we were ever like, we need a reality show. Like, I want to be on TV.
But people would always be like, I think we thought it was normal to just be like so close and crazy.

Speaker 3 And like, we're always naked running around since we were this. Most crazy and naked.

Speaker 3 Yeah, close, crazy and naked. Season two.
But then as we especially moved to New York, I think we realized like how special our bond is and how rare it is to be like best friends with your siblings.

Speaker 3 Um, and so just it kind of fell in our laps. Like, I feel like it was almost divine timing.
Like, someone, I mean, it also had to take you know, a certain star to die.

Speaker 3 Yeah, yeah, obviously.

Speaker 5 So, when did humility become your best trait?

Speaker 3 We're still working on next year. We also like to mess with them because they are like, you know, loving, loving the experience, which I think is special.
But yeah,

Speaker 3 I have to remind them.

Speaker 5 Yeah, but It is fun like watching, like, you know, I think nowadays when reality TV shows, what, you know, referencing back Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, we watch a lot of TV.

Speaker 5 And I think what made what makes those women special or what makes that show special is you don't see them try to edit themselves in a way that like they're so focused on like, you know, just brands or whatever.

Speaker 5 Like they're making a TV show. And when I'm watching Love That Nader, I feel the same way about you ladies where I feel like I'm actually getting an authentic glimpse into your lives.

Speaker 5 You guys are like messy in a fun way.

Speaker 5 Like you're not necessarily holding back, which I think is great because I think a lot of reality TV shows nowadays, I think so many more people, everyone's just so brand conscious, you know, everyone's just so polished.

Speaker 5 And it's just like, well, I didn't really, why I'm watching.

Speaker 5 Obviously, you don't want to be so messy where it's, you know, it turns into the valley or something like that.

Speaker 3 Right.

Speaker 3 Pretty damn close.

Speaker 5 I'm curious when you got, when you ladies got together, like, what conversations did you four have, or even with your parents, about like, how are you guys going to approach this?

Speaker 5 Like, what boundaries did you guys have? Was anything off limits? Or was it like, if we're going to do this, we're going to go all the way?

Speaker 3 I think our initial conversations were like, you get one shot. We're just going to throw it all on the table, fully be yourself.
There's really no other option.

Speaker 3 And I think if you try to fake things or hide things, it does come out. So it's like, yeah.
Our whole approach we were like, let's just do it and free ball it. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Okay. But you're the only one that that had restrictions.
I was like, you know, you guys can go for anything for me because whatever. It's fine.
It's all just me.

Speaker 3 But this one over here did have a relationship restriction. No, you said that.
Well, yeah. So like boyfriends.
It's like, I'm not going to force him to be on the show.

Speaker 3 You know, so that was one that we.

Speaker 5 Are you all in relationships?

Speaker 3 No.

Speaker 3 We're single. That's too late.
We're single. Yeah.
They're in relationships. Yeah.

Speaker 4 How did your boyfriends react to the show?

Speaker 3 Mine was like supportive and excited. Honestly, we had just started dating

Speaker 3 the Lord.

Speaker 3 I

Speaker 3 Yeah, as long as it's a title. What do you mean?

Speaker 3 I mean, honestly, like, I thought he was hot when he had the British accent, and then he threw in the title, and I was like, oh, God, the knees are buckling.

Speaker 3 He's a lord. He's a lord.
Yeah. Okay.
Whatever that is. You're going to be a listen, though.
Right. Yeah.
I would be a lady. She's the only one of us.
I figured she's as lady as one of us can be.

Speaker 3 Right. We needed one lady.
If one of us is going to date a lord, it's going to be that lady. What does being a lord entail? I wish I knew.
I mean, I love the title.

Speaker 3 Like, I don't, he's tried tried to explain it to me, and it's all like very English law things that I can't even follow. And I'm like, honestly, I don't care what it means.

Speaker 3 It probably means nothing now. If we spin off, we all go to the palace or whatever.
I would love to

Speaker 3 a royal wedding or something. Let's get like the royals' opinion on.
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 3 I know exactly what happened. Her parents are very like posh and proper.
I met them this summer and they were like, so when is your show coming out? Like, we can't wait to see it.

Speaker 3 And I'm like, actually, don't watch it.

Speaker 3 Yeah, she'd say, actually, we're going to be in season two. It's going to be solography.

Speaker 3 Is Disney airing in London? I hope not.

Speaker 3 We don't want him to hear like the sister threesome comments. There's, yeah, there's a TV.

Speaker 3 So, yeah.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Wait, what? Okay.

Speaker 3 That's a gosh. No, it was.
I think, though, before the show, to get back to your question, we all were like,

Speaker 3 this is a huge opportunity for us, obviously. And even my parents were like, my mom never curses, but she was like, screw it.
Like, we're just going going to go all out.

Speaker 3 Screw it.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Yeah, she said the F word. I don't know why she said that on here, but crap.
Okay. Yeah.
We're still protecting that.

Speaker 3 But yeah, I think we just were our biggest thing is we didn't want to walk away and be like, we could have put more on the table or we like hid too much or we like protected certain parts of ourselves.

Speaker 3 I think our goal was just to be as raw and like opened as we could. That sounds great.

Speaker 3 We raw that. Raw enough.

Speaker 3 We definitely raw dogged it. We're definitely opened up.

Speaker 3 But yeah, and I think we are proud because we did that. And I hope that that resonates.

Speaker 3 And the editors and producers like really did a good job from what we've seen of capturing like our true personalities. Yeah.
I will say we all had to give up different things.

Speaker 3 I had a corporate job, like was there for five years. I was so comfortable.
And I didn't want to quit when we first started filming.

Speaker 3 Deutsche Bank, where I was, they were like, yeah, no, we're not filming a reality. I was at Deutsche Bank.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Thanks a lot, guys. I was there.
And the bank was like, yeah, you're not filming a reality show here, obviously. So I had to quit almost.
I'm so glad I did, obviously. They were supportive.

Speaker 3 But then they were like, you can film your exit. And I thought that that would be a perfect kind of Gen Z leaving corporate America moment.
But

Speaker 3 point. And now they're her biggest fans.
They're throwing a watch party. Oh, yeah.
If you're watching this TV, we love you guys. We love you, TV.

Speaker 3 I'm like the mascot.

Speaker 5 Well, as someone who used to work in corporate America, I don't miss it.

Speaker 3 No, I will say I'm never going back. Seems to be the common consensus.
Yeah. Yeah.
Once this is, you can always go back to it.

Speaker 4 Once this is out and airing Brooks, do you feel like you're going to have a little bit of protective sister mode? Obviously, you've been in this world for so long.

Speaker 4 Do you feel like you're going to be like that? Or you're going to be like, fuck it. Y'all, I don't know.

Speaker 3 Go to the wall. Now you know how to scare.

Speaker 3 I'm not. I'm so protective of you guys.
I'm obviously harder on you in person because that's how you parent than you, you know,

Speaker 3 outside. But yeah, I feel like I've...
More recently, you know, been opened up to more criticism and scrutiny and whatever. And truthfully, like none of it really does hurt my feelings.

Speaker 3 But then when people start, which they started to rip on them already, I'm like, oh no, you know, appearances or weight or this, you know, all the things.

Speaker 3 Not saying, you know, people call y'all ugly and stuff sometimes.

Speaker 3 I do. People say things like that.
They really do about y'all. No, I don't.

Speaker 3 In case you didn't know. Yeah, I don't know how to get your throat.

Speaker 3 No, but they say that you have a horrible eyebrows and a unibrow and other stuff.

Speaker 3 Okay, serious. They should have seen it a year ago.

Speaker 5 I used to think I was a pretty attractive guy. Then I went on TV and I was like,

Speaker 3 Yeah, actually, yeah. Now, when you go on TV, they'll

Speaker 3 just watch it last week and watch it for the first time. And

Speaker 3 they were telling me, Oh my God, I have a whole entire list of plastics.

Speaker 3 I'm getting my face done, my boobs done. I'm getting plastic by seasoning.
I literally,

Speaker 3 I will be in full bandages. No, that's

Speaker 3 the only season thing. Not like the season two work that they watch themselves on TV, and then they're like, okay, no time.

Speaker 3 I also,

Speaker 3 but we're going to film the surgery. Film it.

Speaker 3 I also was like, do I have a rusting bitch face all the time,

Speaker 3 and I guess I do. I do.
My rusting face is literally the house.

Speaker 3 All of us, I was like a rage. I always look miserable.
Okay, I feel like that's right. Yeah, I think you're great.
I didn't know this for years, and I was like, oh, why is everything I'm mean?

Speaker 4 Are y'all prepared for the, I mean, I'm sure you've gotten it your whole life, but the DILF comments?

Speaker 3 Oh, God. Because dad's hate got money.
Okay, so we have a new rule. Can I just tell you? Tell us.
Yeah. Okay, wait, Jane and I have a thing for older gentlemen that are around my dad's age.

Speaker 3 How old is your dad? 51. Which is an equally

Speaker 3 date. Yeah.
Lower than that. Yeah.
For me, at least. I'm 28, so old.
Me and your dad can be friends. Yeah.
Well, that's the thing. They get along very much.
I think y'all would be very good friends.

Speaker 3 But Sir Jane goes, Okay, we have to make a new rule with this whole old man thing we're doing. The guys we fuck cannot be uglier than dad.

Speaker 3 Because when you see them next to each other and you're like,

Speaker 3 oh,

Speaker 3 I guess we'll do, I guess we'll be starting now after the start of your track record.

Speaker 3 Starting next to you. No, he, yeah, he is, he's cute.
He's a cute parent. He is.
We love him. See it in our tick pots.

Speaker 5 Let's not sell mom short.

Speaker 3 No, no, no, I'm not. Mom's hot.
She's a hot parent. Mom is hot.
Hot parents. They're so cute, too.
Like, they're so in love.

Speaker 3 When we were watching it last night, we were like, like, he's like pulling her hair out of her face. No, they really are precious.
They're dirty. The bar is high.

Speaker 3 I mean, like, me getting a divorce, everything, dad's like. oh, you're going to get it right next time or the next time.
And I'm like, daddy, I'm sorry. Yeah, they're so innocent and precious.

Speaker 3 We sent them through it.

Speaker 5 Well, I really enjoyed watching the first season because honestly, your lady's like family or childhood, in a lot of ways, remind, like, I have 10 siblings.

Speaker 3 Holy

Speaker 3 God. Same mom and dad.
10. Shut up.
We're in the lineup.

Speaker 5 I'm the second oldest.

Speaker 3 Oh, wow. I stand with you.

Speaker 3 19. Oh, my God.
Wow.

Speaker 3 God. Guys, girls.
I need a family photo. Six girls, five from boys.
I mean, y'all need a reality show. Yeah, seriously.
Should we do a spin-off? Collab. We could do a collab.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Paradise, but like, right, your family.
Y'all's family. From like seven Brian, seven brothers.
Biomi.

Speaker 5 I don't think I could do it, but you guys are doing great.

Speaker 5 But, you know, like, I'm sure you could guess. Like, we grew up very, very religious, like a very, like, I had a great childhood around, centered around religion.

Speaker 5 Obviously, as, you know, my parents, I grew up very conservative, a lot of rules, just, you know, and then, you know, I give my parents a lot of credit because I feel like as their kids got older and went out into the real world, they've become a lot more open to like the world.

Speaker 5 They become more progressive through their kids.

Speaker 5 You know, their kids kind of got older and we were just kind of like, you're

Speaker 5 so, you know, they still have their core values. But

Speaker 5 so like watching your show, it reminded me a lot the way you ladies kind of interact with each other and just, you know, what you guys are doing outside of the real world.

Speaker 5 I mean, it just made me wonder, like, what was your childhood like? Was it very hardcore, very conservative?

Speaker 5 Like, how did you ladies go from a household that seemed very traditional, very Christian, to, you know, being on a reality TV show, talking about sex, talking about your bodies, talking about freezing.

Speaker 3 Making out with your hair

Speaker 5 in front of your hair and

Speaker 3 make it out with that.

Speaker 3 Exactly.

Speaker 3 I knew. I was going to get away from that.
She's kidding.

Speaker 3 I will say one thing. Everyone online is like, okay, you guys didn't grow up that poor.
Your dad works in like, you know, the finance world and whatever.

Speaker 3 People have to remember that he actually worked for a nonprofit called Fellowship of Christian Athletes, FCA, from the time we were born till I was like eight years old.

Speaker 3 So that was a core part of my childhood. We lived in that house that they show on the TV until I was eight.
Then we moved to the big city of Baton Rouge. We moved into a three-bedroom house.

Speaker 3 We didn't move into this huge house. And currently we still live in that house in Baton Rouge.
You know what I mean? So yeah, he now built himself up.

Speaker 3 Basically, what happened was he worked for FCA and he had four daughters and he was like 25. And he was like, I'm getting cars donated, food donated to the house because he made $12,000 a year.

Speaker 3 This is like public knowledge. People are like, you did not grow poor.
I'm like, oh yeah, we did, or at least from my memory, because I'm the oldest, you know?

Speaker 3 And so he was like, I can't work in this industry anymore, even though I'm passionate about it, you know, being a minister. I have to get another job because I can't feed these bitches.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 So he said, yeah, quote, as a pastor.

Speaker 3 So that was kind of our whole, you know, upbringing was centered around like Christian camps and, you know, sports and Christianity, basically. Our grandfather was an athletic.
coach at LSU football.

Speaker 3 So it was basically football and God was like our entire life.

Speaker 3 And then when my dad went into the, you know finance world it wasn't like an overnight thing he's still to this day i mean i out earn him but like you know he's he makes decent money to like live in

Speaker 3 he's like everything where i love it i'm like he trusts his life and i hear

Speaker 3 you i mean your parents do like look like waspy rich they present rich yeah yeah i do so people

Speaker 3 honestly they loved her ex-husband and i think he copied his style yeah dad he did little waspie he learned to play golf he copied his style and i will say that throughout our childhood they worked really hard to make us not feel poor.

Speaker 3 They would always say, we're rich in love. We're rich in love.
And because our grandfather was an athletic coach at LSU, we went to a semi-kind of private school through LSU.

Speaker 3 So we really worked hard to not feel poor, if that makes sense. And like Brooks was always trying to save up her babysitting money to buy the Juicy Couture sweatsuit or whatever it was.

Speaker 3 She's not being a trend.

Speaker 3 But since we were little, we had that work ethic instilled because we couldn't do anything without our own money.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I always said like my parents gave me everything I need and things we wanted, we had to work for.

Speaker 3 So I had jobs when I was but I feel like that's probably part of your success now is because the way you were raised. 100%.

Speaker 5 Like I knew what it meant to like work for something. Yeah.
Because like if I wanted it, I had to work for it.

Speaker 3 My parents let me work.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 5 And like, yeah, growing up, I had a great childhood. And

Speaker 5 I have a core memory of just knowing my, the scene, my parents worry about money. If you saw the house I grew up in, looked pretty nice.

Speaker 5 Like it wasn't like a, but you know, it was, they, they figured it out. They, they invested their entire life into giving back to their children.
And you saw that.

Speaker 5 But yeah, like we, money was always a concern. Yeah.
You know, like just worrying about money. How are we going to make the next, you know, but like you, yeah, they didn't present as poor.

Speaker 3 That's the thing. And when I moved to New York, my dad tells me all the time, you know, because then by the time she moved, he helped her with her apartment and like rent and whatever.

Speaker 3 And when I moved, I dropped out of Tulane on a full right scholarship and he gave me $1,000. It was like, good luck to you.

Speaker 5 What was your full scholarship in?

Speaker 3 It was in finance at Tulane.

Speaker 3 But it was a legislator scholarship, like a Louisiana.

Speaker 3 I found a way, a loophole.

Speaker 3 I was an academic legislator. And I was like, I want to go to Tulane for finance.
She's a finance economist. I can't.
That's how I got it.

Speaker 3 So I got around with the legislators.

Speaker 3 I was about to be like, who's the smartest woman in the room?

Speaker 5 And then it's like,

Speaker 5 but who is the smartest?

Speaker 3 I think you can gauge that in several ways. But Mary Holland is like on her side.

Speaker 3 No. Okay.

Speaker 3 Booksmart. Book smart.

Speaker 3 Grace Hann, actually. I'm definitely.
Grace Hann makes it. She has a photographic memory and she's like a little.
We can't have this argument right now.

Speaker 3 If we heard how to argue, I'm definitely the smartest.

Speaker 3 Also, I will say on the being raised, you know, worrying about money things, the most important thing was that you are always getting up and going to work, no matter what it is. Now I very much adopt.

Speaker 3 Now I very much adopt the philosophy of like work smart, not hard. You know what I mean? Which I think is a little bit different than how we were raised when we we were raised on a

Speaker 3 work and like you know like go to the farm and like work all day but now i'm like why don't we work on a farm but like that was the

Speaker 3 that was the vibe we have yeah

Speaker 3 i think also like when you're raised like when kids are like helicoptered and their parents are like controlling everything they do they turn 18 and they go crazy helicopter they go crazy now

Speaker 3 we were helicoptered no but they go crazy it's like the same philosophy like brooks wasn't allowed to wear a two-piece her whole life and so

Speaker 3 when when she was on the covers for school, when she moved to New York, it was like, I'm going for SI. Like you kind of go the opposite way.

Speaker 3 And I think we've gone the complete opposite way of how we were raised. But also our parents have definitely like grown to expand their like beliefs and just like accept.

Speaker 3 They are like the most supportive parents. They are.
And that's what my dad tells me. He's like, okay, because I'm like, this is unfair.
You help her with everybody.

Speaker 3 You give me $1,000 and we're like, deal with it at 18 when I dropped out or 19. And he goes, well, if I had the money then, I would have helped you, but I literally did it.
Yes. Yeah.
Right.

Speaker 3 And it worked out. She's older.
exactly. Yeah.

Speaker 4 It could have been a lot different, honestly.

Speaker 3 I don't even know what it would be like, you know, because I just went to my agency and begged them for all the, you know, hand modeling jobs, hand jobs. I was like, but yeah,

Speaker 3 I need to make my room. I don't do anything.
I'll fucking do it.

Speaker 3 So, you know, it made me have a lot of grit. And, you know, I did e-commerce for Walmart, you know, lingerie, Walmart, bare necessities.

Speaker 3 It's owned by Walmart four times a week in Matucha, New Jersey, took the NJ Transit, made like nothing. But I did that for an entire year and it paid my rent and allowed me to live in New York.

Speaker 3 And I look back on those times as, you know, building, building me up to what I am today. So that's why I hope they do some lingerie Walmart.
I'm in Jersey doing e-comm all day.

Speaker 5 What was your big break?

Speaker 3 I think probably Sports Illustrated was what introduced me into the scene on a different level. It was always like on my mood board growing up.

Speaker 3 I had like Christy Brinkley and Cindy Crawford and all the great supermodels on my vision board.

Speaker 3 And then I was already signed to a modeling agency and I told them like, I really want to be in Sports Illustrated is my dream. And they're like, they would never look at you twice.

Speaker 3 So I went to an open casting call with 10,000 people in Miami and waited in line for like eight hours.

Speaker 3 My mom went with me.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 And I was signed to an agency and all these people, the open casting call, the point of it was to not be a signed model and be regular and still get a chance. And I was signed, but I just went.

Speaker 3 And then I ended up sending a signed copy of my cover when I got the cover to that agency, who I then left. And I was like, yeah, let's go.

Speaker 3 Wishing you the best.

Speaker 4 I feel like your divorce wasn't, I don't know if it gets touched on later in the, but it isn't, doesn't feel like it's much of a conversation.

Speaker 4 Was that something that you did purposefully of like, this is my life now. I don't really want to like go backwards?

Speaker 3 I would say it's a part of my story and it's a part of who I am and what shaped me. I feel like, you know, why are you laughing?

Speaker 3 No, I would say that and an NDA.

Speaker 3 So that'll do a phrase it dude. That'll do it.

Speaker 3 Okay. So you just ruined the whole thing.
But yeah. This is why the show is good.

Speaker 3 Go on. Go on.
NDA. Okay.
Well, I don't really care about it. You probably shouldn't say anything about it.
No, no, no. I can say about my experiences.
That's a fine print.

Speaker 3 So you had to sign it into you. Well, we both did.
It was a mutually exclusive one. Is that allowing to say?

Speaker 3 I didn't say it actually. She said it.

Speaker 3 I can't say anything.

Speaker 5 I think you're allowed to say you sign it in.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Because somebody makes a lot of sense. It's completing the fifth.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 But I think that I was a different person when I was married to him. And when I met him, I was like, it was the first guy I ever dated and met in New York.

Speaker 3 I was 19 years old, my first night in New York City. And then I stayed with him until 27 and I'm 28 now.
So I feel like it did shape me.

Speaker 3 And it was a really, really hard decision to, you know, get a divorce because just because you don't love somebody, that's why I did it. So that's dangerous.

Speaker 4 So you just like fell out of love.

Speaker 3 Yeah. And I never

Speaker 3 really love.

Speaker 5 Well, how do you know it?

Speaker 3 I don't know.

Speaker 3 I think he grew out of the relationship. I worked in what I thought was right.
What happened was

Speaker 3 we started dating. He was like 11 years older than me.
So a baby. But we started dating.
And then my mom's like, okay, great. And then what you do in New York is you move in because it saves money.

Speaker 3 So we moved in. So my parents thought, okay, they're going to get married.
And then he asked my parents. And then I had no idea.
And they were like, of course, great. Engage.

Speaker 3 And my mom has the wedding already planned because she's Southern, you know? So she's like, I got Leslie Campbell. She's already planned the wedding.
It's going to be Earthline Convent in New Orleans.

Speaker 3 Like the classic thing. How old are you going to get married? Like 23, 22? You were 22.
Yeah. And she met him when she was like 18.
So she never really dated.

Speaker 3 I didn't date I speech for my second wedding. I tried this once and it didn't work out.
This one's gonna start.

Speaker 5 That matters. Like, when you meet someone, depending on their age and their life experiences, you met a guy at 18, and then that was like all you knew.

Speaker 3 You were a different person at 18 versus like whatever.

Speaker 3 It was your first boyfriend. How did you break that news? That on my birthday, actually.
Okay, at my birthday party. That's right.
She ruined your hands for your shit. It seems to be a bit of a

Speaker 3 starting. It was this like six-month process of like me trying trying to do it.
And I was doing it. I was slowly but surely.
And then that was the day that there was the nail in the coffin.

Speaker 3 And then the nail in the coffin day was her birthday. And her birthday party.
And Gracie Ann goes, what was it? A random birthday or 23rd?

Speaker 3 She's like, of course, she fucking decides to do this on my 23rd birthday.

Speaker 3 Bro, it's been going on for six months. But really, my birthday is not a big deal to me.
I don't care about it. So, yeah.
And it's like, oh, I'll see you.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 It's not a big deal to your family if you want. And then he showed up to the birthday party.
That's what I was doing. With 10 friends, which was like.

Speaker 4 so the three, the three of you did not.

Speaker 3 That was so awkward. It was like a heist.
No, we didn't. So what were we all?

Speaker 3 What did you think? What did y'all

Speaker 3 experience through that marriage? Well, we watched her just fall apart because we're all very much people pleasers and we divorce was not okay growing up. Like it wasn't really an option.

Speaker 3 And my parents didn't take it very well at first. So I think we were all kind of going through it with her.
And you can tell in the show, we go through a lot of things together.

Speaker 3 We feel each other's pain. So that was really hard for us.
But then we also were realizing that she was coming into like singlehood for the first time ever.

Speaker 3 And her younger sisters were more experienced than her in that, right? That's probably the only area where we were more experienced.

Speaker 3 So we were like, okay, wait, we have to like step up to the plate and help her the way she's helped us. Show her how to DM.
Show her how to like respond to a test.

Speaker 3 We were so bad at re-entry into single dating and being single. We were talking about

Speaker 3 the funniest. It was so iconic in my life.
And it was so much fun. Like when Brooks got single again, it was so much fun.

Speaker 3 I i also was newly single at that time and for three months we just had the best time did you just have like the most like iconic roster i have yeah i was sure

Speaker 3 yeah she's on the roster right now yeah i mean it's yeah it's she's getting better her roster changing every day how many professional sports are we worrying about i mean i think we're spanning

Speaker 3 we're spanning quite a few we've gotten into

Speaker 3 we are spanning we're becoming fans of a lot of i won't say categories but i will say we're dipping more into like the country club sports now you know what i mean

Speaker 3 we're getting off the field well i mean your sister is dating a lord so it's true yeah so anyway that's all out there okay but yeah i think the divorce was also like we were really close to him and so it was like yeah the like i was like say goodbye

Speaker 3 it was it was weird and then we didn't know yeah no well this is the worst part so she's awful with confrontation like she can like do any any deal, any business thing, but when you have to have like a serious emotional conversation, she will not have it.

Speaker 3 And so she puts the nail in the coffin, is like, we're getting a divorce, we're signing the papers, you're moving out, and then flies to LA and leaves

Speaker 3 conveniently. She could probably pick the date to always have a name.

Speaker 3 And then left my parents with her ex-husband to like really deliver the news and like move him out.

Speaker 3 So he's like really upset. My parents are taking care of him and we don't have to do him like that.
Maybe you didn't take it well. Yeah.
We don't have to

Speaker 3 like that. And my parents didn't take it well either.
They were distraught, like mortified.

Speaker 3 It was worse than we might come up. We had to like talk to him for a while.
We didn't know if we like at first, she was like beating her. Great friends.

Speaker 3 Like, oh, yeah, I had drinks with your ex-husband last night. He's looking good.
I was like, no, when were you going to tell us that? She's like, what?

Speaker 3 He's my friend. I was like, okay.
We're still rooting for him, aren't we? I mean, yeah, we are. We are a great guy.

Speaker 3 I wish him all the best. He's a really, he's a really nice guy.
He is sweet.

Speaker 3 Has he moved on? Yes.

Speaker 3 He's dating you.

Speaker 3 I don't know.

Speaker 3 Last I saw him, he was dating some girl.

Speaker 3 No, this was months ago. Months ago.
You saw him months ago?

Speaker 3 I feel like we shouldn't give him this much energy. Yeah, guys.

Speaker 3 I think he's moved on. Moving on.

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Speaker 3 So let's get into Gleb, shall we? Yeah, we're ready. I know Gleb.

Speaker 4 You know, Nick was on Dancing with the Stars.

Speaker 3 We went away. Yeah, why? When? Who's your partner? Peter.
Oh, she's beautiful. I love her.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 Did you like her?

Speaker 5 I did. I loved it.

Speaker 3 It was a great experience.

Speaker 4 So when you found out you were going to be partnered with Gleb, initial response.

Speaker 3 Well, so she was excited.

Speaker 3 No, well, what happened was they called me and she's like, if you could describe your perfect ideal partner, and it was last summer, I was newly single and I had like three boyfriends, great roster.

Speaker 3 And I was like, give me the hottest, douchiest fuck boy in the whole roster.

Speaker 3 I kind of asked for it I go back to that in my head and blame myself all the time and she's like we have the guy and so

Speaker 3 there he was did you know it was him she showed me she told me his name and I googled him I didn't know anything about him but I googled him and I was like oh my god he's perfect um and then he I walked in the studio the first day and what I saw on Google he had lost like 30 pounds all the muscle was gone he was bald and I was like what the

Speaker 3 And he was

Speaker 3 shaved his head. Well, he shaved his head.
He was going through like a wellness phase of like no drinking, no anything.

Speaker 3 Of course, night one, I'm like, want to come to my house and have a shot at Tequila. So I kind of blurred the line from day one as well.
But I liked him.

Speaker 5 You're newly single. You're in dance for the stars.

Speaker 3 You're not a liar. Like, why would you do anything but? Right.
Why not? I was like, you're sweating on him for eight hours a day. Five days.
You might as well say that.

Speaker 3 You might sweat on one hour tonight. It's impossible.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 Did we hook up the first night? I think it was probably like the fourth or fifth night, maybe. What, when you all

Speaker 3 do, honestly, it was before the sweating on each other all day. I don't remember that.

Speaker 4 You needed to have good chemistry for the first show.

Speaker 3 Well, but

Speaker 3 my way of looking at it was like, I don't want to do this dilly-dally build tension thing all season. Let me see it.
Right. Yeah.
I want to see what you're made of.

Speaker 3 And what was it?

Speaker 3 You guys are so messy.

Speaker 3 I don't even want to talk about it. Don't give him that.
Oh, okay. Don't give him a chance.
Yeah. Yeah, we don't need to give him a bad.
He's crashing at it, sounds like. With what?

Speaker 3 Just

Speaker 3 with his clothes off. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 Okay, so throughout Dancing with the Stars, this is like becoming a real relationship.

Speaker 3 Like y'all are actually

Speaker 3 dating. They were dating.

Speaker 3 And I will say, when I first met Glev, I literally said to you the very first time, I was like, I have a feeling that this is going to be a very long, drawn-out. thing.

Speaker 3 And I feel like this man's going to be in our life for a very long time. It's going to end very badly.

Speaker 5 Why'd you, why did you make sense?

Speaker 3 Just because I met him and he was like,

Speaker 3 I was like, they don't like it. What a look in his eye yeah

Speaker 3 i just saw it yeah

Speaker 3 he was very like no she doesn't want to do this like yeah i know he was like no like my dude will come with me and i was like brooksie will come with me yeah my apartment i love you but i will say we all like

Speaker 3 in the good times like i was living with brooks in la and he was like at our house he basically lived there And like, I loved him. Like, we had quality time.
Like, it was like brother vibes.

Speaker 3 Like, he was so sweet and cool. And so I think that's why throughout the show, like, the emotions surrounding Gleb and just in life are like so real for all of us.
Cause it's like we built a bond.

Speaker 3 And I mean, she went through it the hardest. I didn't date the man, but like,

Speaker 3 but I was a traumatic situation. Like, well, I just felt like the unraveled.
There was a part of me that whenever I went to Dancing with the Stars, I have like a dance background.

Speaker 3 I was on the high school dance team. So I really did want to, what? I was on the high school dance team, bitch.
Fucking don't laugh at my. love for dance.

Speaker 3 And I really wanted to dance and like learn how to dance. And I, he's really horrible at choreography.
He always has been.

Speaker 3 And so I didn't have a chance in hell between the banging on the side and this and that. And like, I was fucked, literally.

Speaker 3 Other guys did pretty good.

Speaker 3 Yeah, yeah, great. They took away a lot better, but, you know, that's fun.
They got eliminated the night we danced with them. So that's still a tough talk.
I mean, we had, yeah, that was hard.

Speaker 3 But I will say, Glev was so sweet and we had so many fun times. And I do seriously wish him the best.

Speaker 3 I don't do. Are you forgetting what we did? Did you forget what he did tomorrow?

Speaker 3 I'm having a drink.

Speaker 3 I'm just kidding. I'm kidding.
No, but wouldn't be surprised.

Speaker 3 Well, I'm just kidding. I can't drink to you.
Only my experience is a glab.

Speaker 5 I haven't really talked to him in a while, but like, yeah, you meet him. He makes a great first impression.

Speaker 3 Do you have him on the podcast after us? I swear to God. Did we not? Don't.

Speaker 3 Why not? We don't want to hear his side.

Speaker 3 You can.

Speaker 3 No, no, no, no, no. We don't know.
No, no, no. I mean, you can't.
He says everything.

Speaker 3 I feel like he's already, yeah, how is he?

Speaker 5 How is he, yeah, like, what's his position? I mean, every time I hear Gleb in the news about someone he's dating, it's always like, I didn't do that. Yeah, he's like the shaggy or whatever.

Speaker 5 What is it? Was it me?

Speaker 3 Oh, yeah, yeah. He's just deny, deny, deny, deny.
It's all the slander, he thinks it's happened before. You know what I mean? Like, it's, it's.

Speaker 4 Did you ever have any conversations with any of his previous

Speaker 3 did any of them like reach out and be like, girl, me too? Actually, I actually thought about reaching out.

Speaker 3 No, we had, I i don't know if one of his very close friends who's no longer on dancing with the stars was married to a girlfriend of mine and she told me her experience with him which checked out to everything that a 37 joshua tree well not that she wasn't around she he's no longer in her life because her and her man got divorced they have a baby and um and she told me yeah yeah

Speaker 3 so many people because she was his celeb on dance stars that's how they met not okay there we go whatever i'm just saying she was just like this is how he is like she was like, I saw you in the thick of it, like, online and on TikTok during the season.

Speaker 3 I wanted to reach out to you and be like, girl, run. But she was like, I knew it had to play out and whatever.
So this isn't news to me.

Speaker 5 So, so it's funny that you say, this is how he is, because when I'm watching Love Thy Nader and I've met Gleb, and like, if I didn't know him or watch the show, like, what, what is being portrayed is your classic, you know, love bomber.

Speaker 5 You know, you're just like

Speaker 5 gaslighting, kind of lying, yeah, scumbag. It's the kind of like he, he checks a lot of those boxes, but like, you're also like, I don't know, is he just, maybe this is who he is.

Speaker 3 He has this way of like, I don't know if it's the Russian in him or whatever. I don't know what it is, but it's like, it's like, I don't know.
He just doesn't mean that he's not.

Speaker 3 He wants to forget it.

Speaker 3 He doesn't mean it.

Speaker 3 Did you feel that kind of energy? Totally. The whole time he would say things all the time about, even he would be mean about like, oh, you need to fix this about your appearance.

Speaker 3 And I'd be like, don't eat those shits. Yeah.
Yeah. Like, that's just like

Speaker 3 a bad thing. Or you're like,

Speaker 3 you need to work out.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Yeah.
You like, it's kind of like a mental, like, mindset. It's a little mind-blowing.
It's almost like

Speaker 3 it's like a little Stockholm syndrome.

Speaker 3 I think I have that. Like, when I have you guys all thought y'all dated him, by the way, this conversation is going.
Well, so whenever he would tell me this, emotionally abusive.

Speaker 3 So you had Stockholm for sure. You just had blindness.
You did have Stockholm. But I think, I think, like, I still go back and forth in my head.

Speaker 3 Like, it's a thing about your first two episodes, but I was in real, like, none of it was at all produced. Like, I was in, like, the darkest.

Speaker 3 When I rewatched it, I was like, oh, that was a dark couple of months because I was just like spiraling.

Speaker 3 I was crazy how everything just like, I almost think it was like, it made me want to become religious again.

Speaker 3 Because, like, the fact that like you found out that information when you did, like, it could have been a whole

Speaker 3 year-long thing, you know?

Speaker 4 Can't, can we, I mean, how did you find out?

Speaker 3 He left his, can we say that? I mean, the episode's already out. He left

Speaker 3 the car and it was

Speaker 3 he left it. We could not have done anything.
So the driver just showed up in the apartment. It was like

Speaker 3 basically, I didn't hear from him. God, if you're going to.

Speaker 3 And I was like, this is so weird. I don't understand what's going on.
And then the driver was like, hey, this phone was left in our car. Like, no one produced this.
This is really the Uber driver.

Speaker 3 And it was clubs. And so, you know, I did what girls do.
And

Speaker 3 you knew his password? We can't disclose how it got like that.

Speaker 5 Somehow, some way you found your way into the phone.

Speaker 3 I found my way in there. As any girl would.

Speaker 3 Everyone's done it in this situation.

Speaker 5 And was it an immediate, like, oh, we're going to do this?

Speaker 3 No, she didn't want to get it. I didn't know she was.

Speaker 3 I was already suspicious. I was suspicious that he was cheating.
And so I was like, you have to go to the chat.

Speaker 5 Why were you suspicious?

Speaker 3 I am not a go-through-the-man's phone proponent, but talking to her voice, I was like, Yeah, never been through your phone, don't worry.

Speaker 3 But in this instance, I was like, we have to go to the bathroom. We were already so suspicious.
We also saw TikTok about him being on the dating. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 3 And we saw TikTok of him on Raya or Hinge or something. That same day.
It was like his profile.

Speaker 3 Yeah, and people were sending it to him. Yeah.

Speaker 5 I mean, Raya's hard to get off of. Yeah.
They will, it's like quitting a gym.

Speaker 3 But you pay for it. What? But you pay for it.

Speaker 3 He's like, I still have the app. I can't get off.

Speaker 3 They're so obsessed with me. They're fans.
They don't want to let me go. You delete the account.

Speaker 5 I had people telling me.

Speaker 3 You still have a profile. And then we had some girls

Speaker 3 that I knew.

Speaker 5 Reach out to them and you really had to be like, take me off your app.

Speaker 3 That's like married with a child right here's we knew people like second degree though like one of my friends in la knew somebody who had been messaging him on right and so and it was like a few degrees away but i was hearing things like that also though more than like the cheating suspicion he was just it was escalating so fast like he was talking about moving in with all of us and like i was scared for not even asking just telling us like it's our house our show this is our like talking about the show and like our house like it was his and we were his like and so were you dating when you knew love thy nator was picked up or gonna film yes he was there for that whole journey of it situation and when i was super excited he was very excited he was talking about all of the future plans for all of us five together and i'm like whoa i mean i hope i hope that he like

Speaker 3 fixes whatever's going on in there and like

Speaker 3 can respect a person like one day. I don't know.

Speaker 5 And did you guys like define the relationship?

Speaker 3 Do we define it? I mean, he told me I love you like day one.

Speaker 5 No, I know, but did you ever, not that I'm not, I'm not defending him, but I did, I am curious because, like,

Speaker 5 2025, no one's defining relationships. No one's like boyfriend and girlfriend.

Speaker 3 Yeah, he like referred to me as his girlfriend. They were dating.
Exactly.

Speaker 3 And he would get jealous of guys and like, yo, we're dating.

Speaker 5 You know, when did he first say, I love you?

Speaker 3 Day one. I swear to God.
Like, it was like a bad thing. And that didn't like raise a red flag.
Oh, for me. I just was like, whoa, I love you.

Speaker 3 The thing that raised red flags for me is to the point when you notice your sister's mood is so dependent on someone texting her or not texting her or what they're saying.

Speaker 3 My parents were like really freaked out by me during that day. They're like, you're really manic.

Speaker 3 And actually what's what was really cute but wasn't filmed that like really broke my heart was I was really upset and I was like depressed and wouldn't get out of bed for like three days.

Speaker 3 And my parents were in town. They extended their stay one more day.
And I'm such a daddy's girl and everyone was going out to brunch.

Speaker 3 People say daddy's a girl. I'm not talking about the guys.
I like it.

Speaker 5 The way you all laugh at each other is kind of my favorite thing about y'all.

Speaker 3 Daddy's girl is the star. Stop saying.
Don't say that. Okay, go.
Okay, go daddy. Speaking of that, sorry, my dad has saved his daddy in my phone and it rings.

Speaker 3 And she goes, that could be so many people.

Speaker 3 Oh my God. Daddy's has the song.
Okay. So anyways, my dad, my father,

Speaker 3 you're a father's girl. My father's girl.

Speaker 3 My father stayed. And I was so depressed and upset.
And everyone was going to this big brunch, the whole family, mom, everyone. And I thought that I was home alone.

Speaker 3 So I like mosey up and I love my dad making me breakfast. It's like my favorite thing.
He makes bacon and eggs and like he does it in this special way. It's like our favorite little pastime.

Speaker 3 So it's like 4 p.m. and I wake up.
I roll out of bed. I look like I've been hit by a truck.
And I roll upstairs thinking no one's here.

Speaker 3 And dad's like, oh, and he pulls it out of the microwave and has the breakfast ready. And he goes, yeah, they all went to lunch.
And he told all of them, I'm going to stay in case she wakes up.

Speaker 3 I want to have the breakfast ready for her. And it's so cute.

Speaker 3 They were like, he didn't want to come. He's like, what if she wakes up?

Speaker 3 And I was saying, I have a photo of him when I'm late. I'll send it to you.

Speaker 3 It's so late. With the eggs and the bacon.
I go, I have to take a photo of this. And he's like, it's going to be okay.
And I was like, is it?

Speaker 3 I've never seen her as upset as she was during that like week. Yeah.

Speaker 3 So let's tell him about your thing. She calls in bed with me, Sarah Jane, and we've been crying for three days and I'm howling.
And she goes, she was like, you will be done with this by morning.

Speaker 3 You need to sleep with her every night. And she's like, and I'm like, it's been days.
Like, you're done. We will be done with this by morning.
I don't want to hear a peep about this.

Speaker 5 I love that. Now, how much do you think his, I mean, his looks had to do with

Speaker 3 it. The whole part of it.
I think, yeah, let's put it this way. I think if he were unattractive, we would never be in this debacle in the freeways.

Speaker 3 He's so hot. Objective.

Speaker 5 I always thought I was a handsome fellow.

Speaker 3 I grew up in a lot of people.

Speaker 5 But I grew up in Wisconsin, and then I go to L.A.

Speaker 3 and I meet Gleb, and I'm like, Jesus fucking Christian.

Speaker 3 You kind of can't trust somebody that. No, you can't.
He's going to be a guy. He's loggos from now on.
I know he's going to be a little bit more. No, I gave you a havoc.
Something wrong with him.

Speaker 3 Okay.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 5 it's it's shocking.

Speaker 3 No, it is blinding for me. And he knows it.

Speaker 5 And he knows it. And he has a very masculine, like, you know, a lot of very pretty men.

Speaker 3 Yeah, writing. Okay.

Speaker 3 She's like, I hate him.

Speaker 3 You're not making me feel better now. You know what she did after the whole cheating thing? She's like, I mean, like, he's not.

Speaker 3 And I was like, this was a day ago. It was an e-news thing.
It was like Glib response to pick up. Blah, blah, blah.
As you're saying, I'm looking, like, what an asshole.

Speaker 3 Grace and goes, oh, can we hang out with him in LA? I'm hot. Yeah, she goes, I mean, but are we going to see him? I was like, he goes, no, come over here.

Speaker 3 care that much.

Speaker 5 Because I feel like ladies don't, like, I feel like women don't fall in love with their eyes as much as men do.

Speaker 3 That's why she did.

Speaker 3 She did. She was also posted.
This was her first boyfriend, keep in mind, since her ex-boyfriend. She's exhausted.
I mean, her ex-husband. Since her ex-boyfriend, she had many boyfriends.

Speaker 3 No, it wasn't. But, like, the first one, you really were love bomb by and like fell into it.

Speaker 5 I will say, though, like, watching, despite his good lucks, watching Love Thy Nator in the first episode, where he keeps, I think he says, I love you to you, like, 60 times. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 I don't hear him say, I love you. What I hear him say is my face loves you.

Speaker 5 And it says almost as if he, you know, he's doing, you're mad a little bit and he goes, hey, I love you.

Speaker 3 You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 3 It's just like,

Speaker 3 really that is.

Speaker 3 There's nothing behind it. There's no, there's no like

Speaker 5 this is why I love you. It's just like, I just take whatever.

Speaker 3 I love you. All right.
Yeah. It's like his response to everything.
I love you. Also, like, she's like, I feel bad.
He's mad. Like, she's never one to be like catering to anyone, like a man.
No.

Speaker 3 So when she's like, I feel like y'all were mean to him or like, whatever. And he's like out here being rude to my dad, which like, how do you be rude to my dad? No, I mean, that is such a red flag.

Speaker 3 I feel like the viewers will see that too. How are you? How could they do that to Bro Nader? He's not.

Speaker 3 He's perfect. But I feel like that's just like a dead giveaway of like, this guy doesn't have to be.
Also, my parents never speak up about guys. We did.

Speaker 3 They always keep their mouths shut and they were vocal about the gun thing. They're like, we do not like this.
We don't see this going well.

Speaker 3 Like, this is before you phone out about the whole time throughout the whole. season like of Dancing with the Stars and us looking face.

Speaker 3 There's all these backward photos of us like rock and roll night. And my dad is like

Speaker 3 right behind us. And I'm like, okay, maybe that was rude.
Just to have no consideration, look watching it back, the episode, and knowing that my family is so conservative.

Speaker 3 If you cared any about getting respected at all, I feel like watching it back when I was in it, I was in it, so I didn't really realize, but watching it back and seeing the amount of PDA, which it takes two to tango, I guess.

Speaker 3 But in front of my dad, just standing there, it's like, I feel like it's aggressive. It's not.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 The straddling.

Speaker 4 I was like, oh my God,

Speaker 3 this is like

Speaker 4 I'm from the South and I can't imagine like in front of, I mean, even I'm like married with a child and my mom will stay with us for long periods of time. And I'm like kissing Nick in front of my mom.

Speaker 4 I'm like, I'm so sorry, mom.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 And I'm only like, I've just

Speaker 3 got to.

Speaker 3 We're just buddies.

Speaker 5 But yeah, it's almost like he was like this natural Lothario, kind of like, that's just what he does. And I think that's the part where it almost, not that you want to forgive him, but he just.

Speaker 3 He's like unaware almost of like the the manipulation.

Speaker 5 It's almost as if like, and it's not okay, but it's like he was raised. You just tell a woman you love her.

Speaker 3 Right. Totally.

Speaker 5 You're in trouble or whatever. And like, that's all, that's all she wants to hear is, I love you.
And as long as you just say, I love you, you kind of can do whatever you want.

Speaker 3 Right, right, right.

Speaker 5 And that seems to be how he.

Speaker 3 does it's a good insight i mean i'm sure it's i'm sure it's worked for him in the past i'm sure it's gotten him out of many debacles what was i remember like when y'all were on dancing with the stars there was obviously a lot of tick tocks a lot of like was that part of the bit yeah no it was what's funny about that is and i tell everyone this i'm like we're not faking it like we're banging and we're like hanging out every night every day and like it was just the tick tocks i didn't have anyone behind that but me i just like never used tick tock and then everyone's going to dance the stars you should try and i just my for you page feeds me like really weird freaky audios because that's who i am a weird freak and so they were just all organic and we just would make them together i didn't think anything of it i think that i didn't realize that the viewership and the audience is like a little bit like our upbringing, like more conservative middle America.

Speaker 3 And, you know, they're also obsessed with gloves. They fucking hate my guts.
They're like, how dare you? And I'm like, Karen, stop. I'm sorry.
You need to love that. I made it to you what he did.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 5 When you told the Dance from the Stars super fans, as they identified him in episode two, and you

Speaker 3 who was it that

Speaker 3 Sarah J.

Speaker 3 Oh, yeah, in the bathroom.

Speaker 3 I know we hate him, but we don't love him.

Speaker 3 I know. They're nothing okay, anyways.
What are you doing?

Speaker 3 People send me messages still going going in this long. I am asking you, I am begging you to consider taking him back.
Everyone makes mistakes, honey. This and that.
I'm like,

Speaker 3 I think he kind of lives in that world too of like he only tunes into like people who are obsessed with him. And so he's living in this world where like Gleb is like innocent.
Like, you know,

Speaker 3 that's all he sees is the good. Exactly.
I see the good, the bad, all the things about myself. And I feel like that's a little hard.

Speaker 5 I'm assuming he's never acknowledged or apologized.

Speaker 3 Oh, he will deny it until he dies. Like he did with his ex-wife.
And like he's always done. He will deny it.

Speaker 5 What did you find on the phone?

Speaker 3 I found...

Speaker 3 found is that am i allowed to disclose no i can't say it it's easy well the title is in of what i found can we get a description in the episode well and if first two episodes come out on the 26th this comes out on the 27th you talk it's it's reason's and josh yeah yeah i think gleb has also gotten enough airtime yeah i agree well i feel like the point the whole point of the gleb situation is that we all use it to kind of band together

Speaker 3 i think that the the the purpose of it all watching it back it's painful to see what went down because i remember that being such a dark time but i think think and you know the cheating is just scratching the surface of what he's done really and truly and you know i'm not going to get into that but i will say the beautiful part of it is which i loved watching back and made me so emotional was seeing like how my family rallied around me and my parents and all of my sisters and i just feel like that was the blessing that came out of it was seeing that because i'm usually the one that's taking care of things and taking care of other people that they will come to my defense and yeah you know be there on my bedside with like my breakfast and tissue boxes for as long as I needed.

Speaker 3 And I feel like that was so special to see

Speaker 3 our bond on TV because it was special and no one. And that's really what this show is about.
And like you dated

Speaker 3 Miss PR Media Training.

Speaker 3 I had media training yesterday.

Speaker 3 That photographic over is working for you. And back to my notes on my notes.

Speaker 4 What do you think his response is going to be to this show?

Speaker 3 Denies all wrong. I don't think he's going to like it.
Oh, God. I mean, it's going to be a more social for sure.
He loves airtime, regardless if it's positive or I don't think he'll be able to tell if

Speaker 3 he's bothered. What do you mean? I don't think he'll be able to tell.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 He's already posting shit on TikTok. Like, oh, my God.
Yeah. Being like, story,

Speaker 3 watch me shine. Oh, he lies.

Speaker 3 Yeah, so all he does is that we don't know.

Speaker 5 But that's what I'm saying. I don't think he's ever going to let it go.
No, he just

Speaker 3 won't. It's like a video crying.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 No.

Speaker 5 He'll be like, yeah, it's like, whatever. You know, we're cool.
Like, it's fine.

Speaker 3 I like it.

Speaker 5 You're doing doing it on TV or the edit or whatever.

Speaker 3 I think he's going to say, he already said it. Use me for your reality show.
Yada yada. Yeah.
Honestly,

Speaker 3 the show isn't even about glut. No, it really isn't.
It's like. That's really what the show is about.
That's really what the show is all about.

Speaker 5 Yeah, but it is a juicy way to start.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it is.

Speaker 3 It is.

Speaker 5 And that's the way you ladies bond together. Correct.

Speaker 3 And you see a lot go on with. other relationships and ups and downs and the intertwining of the four of us.

Speaker 3 And I think that also, you know, season two needs to start rolling out because the tea is hyping. Yeah, it's hyping.
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Speaker 5 I really enjoyed the way you two argued.

Speaker 3 Oh, yeah, about a show.

Speaker 3 That was so good. Oh, we do you agree with.
So you would actually die if you were in the airport with us yesterday. Yeah.
I was just protecting her. Yeah.

Speaker 3 No, I wasn't arguing with you on the photo shoot, by the way.

Speaker 5 I mean, I couldn't imagine having my sibling there.

Speaker 3 Right. And I'm also saying, I also did an invite.

Speaker 3 I would have probably responded. yeah i was like right

Speaker 5 i don't want to see your face right

Speaker 3 we argue like that so much yesterday at the oh god we were screaming at each other checking in for the flight and this man next to us was like oh my god turns out he's right in front of us on the flight by the time we're going into security we're like best friends dying laughing the whole thing happened

Speaker 3 she asked me to pack i would say like

Speaker 3 this big of a box of like all skincare. I'm packing my whole suitcase.
I'm packing your looks, your looks, so much shit. So I, and her laptop and like some other cosmetics

Speaker 3 so i pack all of her i forget the skincare girl and pindrick sorry i forgot the skincare

Speaker 3 i get to the airport she starts freaking out where's my skincare starts crying i don't know i'm on 60 million

Speaker 3 of accutane my skin is going to fall off of my skin

Speaker 3 and then proceeds to on the plane put mouth tape over her lips pulls it off

Speaker 3 and now my skin is rusty

Speaker 3 it was

Speaker 3 do you see it yes like you can't

Speaker 3 and she wouldn't text her she got dermaplaned and she shouldn't have because her skin is so thin that it's falling off. Yeah.
And so she wouldn't text her facialist and she was like,

Speaker 3 she's like, I'm going to die pretty much during the press tour. Like, I'm going to be skinned alive.

Speaker 3 And so I texted her facialist and was like, hey, like, she lost it. Can we get replacements at the pharmacy? She had product delivered to her yesterday.
End of day. End of day.

Speaker 3 It's all good. You know, no, it's all.
She was like, you are incompetent. You use this piece of shit.
And I was like, I was doing you a favor.

Speaker 5 Sarah Jane, you remind, you, you strike me as someone who like knows knows when she's right.

Speaker 3 Yes, she does. You do.
Yeah. You, on the other hand, always think you're fucking right.
And you're not. I don't always think I'm right.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 I do know when I'm wrong, though. Sometimes, yeah.

Speaker 5 You don't think so?

Speaker 3 Sometimes she's sometimes. I call the Devil's child.
Like, she always.

Speaker 5 You two feel like you have similar energy. Yes.
And then you two have also like a similar energy.

Speaker 3 We are similar. That's a good idea.
They're in danger. I always said too.

Speaker 3 We're mostly physical. We have a lot of weird things.
We get into physical rights.

Speaker 3 We are. Sarah Jane.
We just like do this and this and this.

Speaker 3 this and then we're best friends like five seconds later okay do you stand by your outfits that you chose okay no i do not but i will also say that i did not choose those outfits but you chose at all i did like this i did i like this one

Speaker 3 but i what's what is something that was not really depicted in the show is that I did not choose the outfits. The stylist and the photographer did.

Speaker 3 And then

Speaker 3 no, but they did. They did.

Speaker 3 And then the truth, they did. And that's something that I said to her on the side during the shoot.
I was like, look, stop. I'm just going to shoot you.
Why would you give it to me?

Speaker 3 That's not how you work. I told you there were so many things on that rack.
I said, you should put something like that on it. You said, get the fuck off my side.
I didn't say whatever.

Speaker 3 You could have styled it differently. Okay, this is the point.
The stylist really wanted to shoot this one look. So I was like, we'll do that for you.
And then we'll do the ones that I want to do.

Speaker 3 Because it is like a stylist, a photographer. You're all doing it for free.
It's not like I can. And now you're going to shoot them really fast.
And that's really what the show is about.

Speaker 3 And that's your, but I'm just saying that wasn't like depicted. She's like, that's so ugly.
That's so ugly. And I was like, dude, there's other people involved here.
Shut up. They were all fine.

Speaker 3 So, yeah. No,

Speaker 3 I did not like the outfit. I love it.
I didn't use it. Clearly, it strikes a chord.

Speaker 3 I love that you're all still activated over it.

Speaker 5 And so you're single and you're single and you two are in relationships.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Correct.

Speaker 5 And how are those relationships going?

Speaker 3 They're going great. Yeah.
We're here for the press week. Yeah.
Yeah. To celebrate.

Speaker 5 How did you meet your boyfriend?

Speaker 3 I was set up by mutuals. My boyfriend has.
No, not.

Speaker 3 I set you up. No, you did not.
You actually did. I literally did not.
You brought you to the church.

Speaker 3 No, you did not. I was at the charity.
It was a birthday party at the birthday party. You did not bring me her.
It was actually our agent who set her up. Anyways, yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 My agent is friends with his sister. So I met him completely organically.
I introduced him to you months after we had been dating. What is organic? Organically.
In the street.

Speaker 4 It's like I was set up and I met him completely organically.

Speaker 3 Organically at an event. Organically at a party that I was invited to in order to meet him.

Speaker 3 Organically. Right, right, right.
Yeah. And then I met, we were friends for a couple years before we met.
So, yeah, basically, the girls knew him first, and then I met him.

Speaker 3 We were friends for a while. Then he took me to Wimbledon as a friend.
And I was like, actually, you're kind of hot in the Lord.

Speaker 3 He was in his element. He was in his element.

Speaker 5 You're like, I would like to go to Wimbledon.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I was like, this actually is a vibe. Yeah.
We can make this work. And then he moved to LA.
So obviously I wanted him more because he was across the country.

Speaker 5 So he lives in LA now.

Speaker 3 So now he's in LA.

Speaker 5 So you are still in New York? Yeah.

Speaker 3 Bicycle. Okay.
How's the bike coastal thing going? It's actually pretty good because I'm so busy and he's busy. And I feel like we need our space.

Speaker 3 Like I date my sisters in New York, basically, because

Speaker 3 people are going to cut that out to be incest, but okay. No, but like we're always fucking together.
We're doing a million things together all the time.

Speaker 3 So having a boyfriend there might be distracting. Oh, but sanitizing the girls, I like it.
Yeah, always. But yeah, the long distance is working for now.
But the show goes over that.

Speaker 3 It kind of touches on that.

Speaker 4 Sarah Jane, you got your nipples pierced on camera. Yeah.
The fact that you, I once had some nipple piercings before I was pregnant,

Speaker 3 wow, so she was.

Speaker 3 I liked it. Did you love having them?

Speaker 4 I loved having them.

Speaker 3 I felt it gave, yes, it gave me such, it gave me such a confidence.

Speaker 6 I was like, I'm the baddest bitch in a lot.

Speaker 3 It really is. And you take your shirt off and people are like, yep.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 Or you like do that abra and people are like, oh, she's bad.

Speaker 3 Yeah. She's a little scared.

Speaker 3 It's hot. Yeah.
It's so fun.

Speaker 4 The fact that you did not jump off that table in pain.

Speaker 3 Honestly, okay. My face, watching my face during it, I was like, you were hurting, but it was not as bad as I thought.
The second one was rough. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Because like, I had to go back in because I couldn't do the asymmetry. But like, it wasn't as bad as I thought.

Speaker 3 The pain after was like rough.

Speaker 5 And was that something

Speaker 5 you had always planned on doing? And you're like, you had a TV show. So you're like, fuck it.
Like, this is a great scene. Or was that?

Speaker 3 No, I, I kind of was like, I always wanted to do it. One of my best friends in high school got her experience, but then they, she had a terrible experience with it.

Speaker 3 so i think that like expired my like trauma from seeing her like she had a whole situation and i was just like why not i was bored you know when you like cut your hair when you're bored or like do something like that i was like we pierced my nipples

Speaker 3 and um did you tell your parents that you got them pierced no you did not i did it they're gonna find out they know now yes yes you will see their lives reaction yeah you'll see it all my dad sees it he's like yeah why did you even do that does it make any sense?

Speaker 3 Your nipples are fine as they are. We're like, so you can't say that either, dad.
Yeah, the thing is, we had too many conversations about nips with my parents, but I love them.

Speaker 3 Oh, our grandparents are going to see that. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 3 We forget about the grandparents watching. Yeah, we try to.
Oh, I know. I'm sorry, Mozzie and David.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I don't know. I feel like grandparents are going to be a little bit more.
I think they're going to love it.

Speaker 3 You know what I mean? They're crazy. My grandmother's like the sweetest, southern, most innocent lady who like gardens and makes sweet tea.

Speaker 3 And I go, Mozzie, you're going to, you're gonna probably cry on one of the episodes because i cry she goes oh start crying i don't want to see you cry what is her name

Speaker 3 mozzie what is the government she's an angel and gardener margaret margaret and she's the sweetest southern girl

Speaker 3 she's probably gonna listen to this she does listen to this podcast she's a podcast girl and she watches everybody we love you mozzie

Speaker 3 um

Speaker 5 so you four ladies are in your 20s you come from religious backgrounds you're from the south a lot of people you grew up with are having kids you know the pressure of kids is like prominent in the Midwest and the South.

Speaker 5 Is that something that you ladies are interested in? Are you in the like, hey, we're just out there having fun?

Speaker 5 Do you feel the pressure from your community or even your parents sometimes to like, or grandma?

Speaker 3 You know, totally.

Speaker 5 And how do you ladies deal with that?

Speaker 3 I think we all want to have big families. Like growing up with sisters, you want to have that for your kids.
And so Gracie and I think we'll have five kids first, maybe, probably.

Speaker 3 And then Mary Holland. What about me? No, I think we'll all have four

Speaker 3 on it. I think we'll all have four.

Speaker 3 I think we'll all have a lot of kids. I feel no pressure.
The only time I feel pressure is when I go home. Yeah.
And aunts and uncles, and people are like, when are you having kids?

Speaker 3 And I'm like, oh my God, relax. Like, that's not what we're doing in New York in our 20s, you know.

Speaker 3 And I think that nowadays, like, everyone's kind of like F you'd a tradition in a way, like micro-retirement, people are quitting early and people are not having kids early.

Speaker 3 Marriage isn't necessarily end game, like, or end goal.

Speaker 3 So I feel feel like we do have that pressure growing up, but the whole show is about us kind of like coming out of our shells in that way and kind of breaking traditions that we're used to, including religion.

Speaker 3 We talk a lot about that. So it's definitely, I don't feel any pressure to have kids as much just because I'm more confident in myself than what I want.
Damn, eh?

Speaker 3 But sorry, mom. Sorry, Mozzie.
But I feel like we all, like, because we came from a big family would like a big family. But yeah, our kids are all going to be best friends.

Speaker 3 The goal is to to have four townhouses right next to each other and then, like, a joint yard, communal yard, yeah, all the kids in New York. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 Any of you four religious anymore?

Speaker 3 I'm Christian. I'm religious.
They all are Christian. I'm not religious anymore.
I go to church. I'm actually religious.
Do you go to church, Dan? I do. I go to church.

Speaker 3 No, I go to church more than y'all go. I haven't been to church recently.
Other than Christmas and Easter? I went to church twice in July.

Speaker 3 I went to church last month because my boyfriend's very religious. A few months ago.
I mean, her business. We all have like, I've been listening to you.
I leave worship. I pray every night.

Speaker 3 Confession. Yeah.
Hell song. It's not a competition.

Speaker 3 We're all religious.

Speaker 3 No, we're all Christians. I think we all, yeah, like have different things that.
I'm not atheist. I just don't identify as agnostic.
I'm like,

Speaker 3 yeah, I'm spiritual more so, you know?

Speaker 4 Yeah. And was that a tough conversation to have with your parents?

Speaker 3 Yes, which happens on the show, actually, a little bit. Like my mom, my dad is more, I guess, intellectually curious in that regard than my mom is.
And so I talked to my mom a bit about it.

Speaker 3 And she's very, but again, our values still shine through us. And I'm so grateful that we grew up religious because of, you know, what it taught us.
But it was a hard conversation at first.

Speaker 5 And do you like deliberately like, you were like, they're Christian. I'm not.
Like, I grew up Catholic.

Speaker 3 Right.

Speaker 5 I don't go to church anymore. But like, if anyone asks, I'm like, I'm Catholic.
Like, I don't like, I don't really have a problem with the label.

Speaker 5 Or I still like identify guests, you know, like the club, so to speak.

Speaker 5 Even though like I'm not, yeah, I don't, don't, I don't go to church and I right, right, I don't subscribe to a lot of the guilt and shame that is centered around religion that I used to

Speaker 5 and things like that. And, you know, I just figure out as I go.
But yeah, I don't really have a problem. I'm not worried about people like labeling me Christian or Catholic.
But are you?

Speaker 3 Well, I guess I'm saying that explicitly because in the show it's talked about so much and because my boyfriend is very Christian and I in the show talk about not being necessarily

Speaker 3 we go over in the show a lot, but he's super supportive.

Speaker 3 And I think growing up, we were around a very strict church environment where people were a different type of Christian almost, where it was like no sex before.

Speaker 3 More megachurchy, like what's the show? Right, he's right to Jimstone.

Speaker 3 That was our church. So, I assume that Christian boys with that, and he is so the opposite and just a good guy, which I imagine is what they're supposed to be like.
So, it's not a problem right now.

Speaker 3 He doesn't, you know, judge me for it, and I he doesn't pressure me, but I still go to church and it's nice. Okay.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 Sarah Jane, you came out to your family.

Speaker 4 Did your sisters know before your parents knew?

Speaker 3 Yes. I told them in this order.

Speaker 3 Why was Brooks last?

Speaker 4 Why was Brooks last?

Speaker 3 Well, I told her and her husband together. And I just, we were all.
She's like a motherfucker.

Speaker 3 I think I was like, Mary Holland's like my best friend. And I was dating a girl that I went to school with at the time.
So like, me and Mary Holland lived together.

Speaker 3 So it was like Mary Holland automatically knew.

Speaker 3 And then it just felt felt like when i told you i think you were like i already knew or like yeah i was like girl i know you've been gay like i'm not gay but yeah but and then i don't know it just kind of worked out that way brooks no everyone was so supportive but um brooks is like a mother figure i feel like it's just like more intimidating to like i mean she was like so to you

Speaker 3 like no no you're everyone is so supportive not saying that i'm just saying this is how i told them and then I told my dad and then my mom lost.

Speaker 3 No, my mom, my mom was honestly like, she was raised super like ultra religious and she's the oldest of four boys.

Speaker 3 So like she was just like very, I think suppressed growing up and didn't really have room to like explore other ideas. She became a nurse.
She had a lot of questions when you came out.

Speaker 3 Like, what did that mean? I think she was confused. And she, but she also at times has been like, I always like wondered.
But then I think it was hard for her to adjust.

Speaker 3 I think when you come out, whether your parents are supportive or not, it's like. the death of an expectation.
So she expected me to get married to a guy, have kids by the time I was like 30.

Speaker 3 And that's just a different life than like I want to have. And so it was like shifting your expectations.
It's not necessarily good or bad.

Speaker 3 It's just like changing what you are imagining for your daughter, you know?

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 3 And at what age did you realize this about yourself? I was always very curious, like early, like ninth grade. I was always like middle and high school.

Speaker 3 I was always very curious, like, you know, just curious.

Speaker 3 But I,

Speaker 3 but I never like,

Speaker 3 I never explored it until I got to college. I was like on the cheer team with Gracie Ann.
I was like following in my sister's footsteps and like wanted to be like, just fit in.

Speaker 3 I was very shy too and didn't ever want like attention of any kind.

Speaker 3 And it was understood like in our community and in our family that like if a child came out or like if a kid was gay, it was like talked about and like not in a positive way.

Speaker 3 So like, oh, whoever down the street is like a lesbian. That's, oh, Jesus, can you imagine? Like if my kid was gay, I was like,

Speaker 3 so I waited till college and then I went to Fordham. And so it was very opened and like liberal and just like, I felt very free to explore.
And I had a relationship with a girl who was like amazing.

Speaker 3 Gracie Ann hung out with her a lot.

Speaker 3 And that was sort of my first experience. But that relationship was also, I was like, I don't want to come out to my parents knowing that I'm like sexually free and like fluid.

Speaker 3 I don't want to come out to my parents and just like explain that because that's a hard thing to explain.

Speaker 3 So when I was in a relationship with a girl, I was like, this is an easier way for me to tell them, hey, I like someone. And it's a girl.

Speaker 3 It was a, I was very lucky, though. I was very lucky.
I mean, like, I know so many people from Louisiana that don't talk to their parents, don't talk to their grandparents.

Speaker 5 Well, that's why I like watching your show, I mean, are related to you women and just your relationship with your parents for that reason. Because you can tell your parents are very traditional,

Speaker 5 but there's a level of, yeah, but these are my daughters. And at the end of the day,

Speaker 5 you know,

Speaker 5 I have siblings who came out as gay. And I remember being, you know, a kid.
And if you would have told me things that us kids would have done in adulthood

Speaker 5 or just like told my parents, you know, like I thought if I didn't get married by a Catholic priest, my parents would feel a certain sort of way about it.

Speaker 5 None of the kids got married by Catholic priests, you know, like there's been so many more other things and my parents just don't care. At the end of the day, they just, they want to love their kids.

Speaker 5 And I feel very lucky to have, I mean, not all parents are like that, but your parents really give that energy. We're going to raise our kids how we want to raise our kids.

Speaker 5 And we have our values and things like that, but we're not here to tell our children how to live their lives. They'll live it for themselves.

Speaker 5 And we're just here to, we just want to support them and love them. Exactly.

Speaker 3 And I love that.

Speaker 5 I love that energy I got from your parents.

Speaker 3 Yeah. And I think it's also like, along for the ride, I would anticipate, oh, what are they going to think about this? And then sometimes it's like, not even the sexuality thing, but other things.

Speaker 3 And it's like, they don't care. Even the nipples, it's like they were like, ew, why'd you do that? But like, I feel like they're more and more unfazed as things transpire.
I mean, we bite them down.

Speaker 3 I mean, y'all could literally tell me that, you know, you're naked on the strip in Vegas and blah, blah, blah. I would just be like, like, nah, that's what they do.

Speaker 3 I mean, she's just, nothing surprises me. Yeah, and I think y'all will see that by episode six.
Gracie, y'all give y'all's dad a run for his face. I really do.
Oh, yes.

Speaker 3 He gets roasted at his little. He finally is doing boy things and joined a golf course in Louisiana.
After all these years, he never did anything for himself. So we like got a membership.

Speaker 3 And I ran into some of the golf buddies at like a wedding. And they were like, oh my God, can we take a selfie so that we can put it up on the big screen and roast your dad? My tits were out.

Speaker 3 And I was like, hey, boy.

Speaker 3 And dad's like, why'd you do that? with like marking on them? I go, They asked me to, dad. And he goes, They're doing a whole thing at bullying me.

Speaker 3 Y'all are gonna die of this. My dad is like, I think nominated or something for best dress of Baton Rouge.
So, in September, he's no, don't tell me. He's walking in a fashion show

Speaker 3 and he's gonna look amazing. Wow, you just gave it away.
Oh, look at that.

Speaker 3 No, no, no,

Speaker 3 no, no, that's okay. That is the idea.
Why are they ever like that?

Speaker 3 Your dad watches.

Speaker 3 Best best dressed battery. We leaked.
They're going to watch. We'll make sure we watch.

Speaker 3 But that was one other thing that came in the comments. We're like, they are not poor.
Their dad is best dressed of battery. I was like, okay.

Speaker 4 Listen. Fashion is not money.

Speaker 3 It's a dial.

Speaker 3 I like that. Exactly.

Speaker 5 You ladies referred to Brooks as like a mother figure. Obviously.

Speaker 3 I think she refers to herself.

Speaker 5 Either way, whatever. And you're talking about your religious background and, you know, all you women see very, very sexually open and things like that.

Speaker 5 But you talked about your upbringing upbringing in terms of like no sex before marriage. I very much relate to that where it was like, fuck burning hell.

Speaker 5 Did you ladies go to, like, when you were growing up and when you started liking boys or girls or whatever and starting being curious about sex, how did you all deal with that?

Speaker 5 Because I remember, you know, like, yeah, growing up,

Speaker 5 I didn't talk about sex with my parents

Speaker 3 at all.

Speaker 5 Like, you know, you just, I, you know, and all the thoughts and feelings I had always always felt wrong when I was

Speaker 3 in high school.

Speaker 5 And it just felt very I'd made a lot of problems.

Speaker 3 That was the last time. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 You know, shit like that. I swear to God, I promise they'll send me back.

Speaker 3 I've done that in my life. The next day you're like, well, one more time.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 Yeah, but how did you lady, like, did, did you go to Brooks? Was she the person? Because she, were you, I mean, how did you all have those conversations?

Speaker 3 Well, the day, the way it was dealt with in our home and our church is that in eighth grade, you go to a little camp, boot camp, called True Love Waits,

Speaker 3 where they show you a million photos of esconoria

Speaker 3 very traumatizing made up things

Speaker 3 yeah and you get hornified yeah and you're like i'm never touching a boy ever and then at the end of the moment you get a promise ring and the pastor kisses your forehead and it's like you will be a virgin until marriage and you're like I had a whole hand of promise rings.

Speaker 3 I hoodwinked. I'm a businesswoman.
I'm like, I'm a diamond.

Speaker 3 I fucked up. I had sex.
But I need a new ring and then I'll honor that ring. I'm going to get that ring.
And then I'd have sex. And then she's like, I need a money.

Speaker 3 I'm like Dollar Tree rings. I don't think we like talked.
Maybe I would talk to Grace Ann about like sex. You would talk to me.

Speaker 3 We were a little more suppressed when we were in our childhood. Yeah, like normal to talk about.
Since I was the oldest, I obviously did everything first.

Speaker 3 And I will never forget, I was like 16 years old taking a bath. And my mom had a feeling because I had snuck in from a boy's house and went straight to the bathtub to like clean up.
I don't know.

Speaker 3 And I went straight to the bathroom. And my mom was like, Are you in there? You didn't say goodnight.
You didn't say good night. You didn't say goodnight.

Speaker 3 She broke down the bathroom door and I had a hickey on my neck. And she was like, I knew it.
The curling iron. Devastated.

Speaker 3 And I said it was curling iron and it was this whole curling iron thing. And she's like, let me see your neck and like move my hair and she was bawling.

Speaker 3 You would have thought that I like was pregnant. And I was like, mom, I made out with a boy.
And she's like, how could you? I can't believe you just, I was 16 years old. My friends were having sex.

Speaker 3 So I was the last.

Speaker 3 All my friends had older brothers, you know, so they were doing everything. And I wasn't doing anything that bad, really.
I was making out with boys.

Speaker 3 And I was always, you know, infected by like Sports Illustrated and all this sex and glamour of this lifestyle.

Speaker 3 And so my parents, I had to hide all that from them, you know, know, because that was not something that we, so, I think we were suppressed to talking about sex and sexuality and feelings at home because we never even the way that we were like late bloomers.

Speaker 3 I was about to ask, so all yeah, we were late bloomers, we really were. Yeah, we were

Speaker 3 like, I remember when you first didn't even have sex, you like when someone went down on you and you were telling us about it, and you had like come home from college and you were telling us about it.

Speaker 3 Oh, God, I don't want to hear like,

Speaker 3 why are you? Like, and you liked that? Like, that's insane. Okay, you're fucking grounded, by the way.
I'm not even. Now, Sarah Jane loves it.
Now she gives anti.

Speaker 3 She's obsessed. Fast forward.
Oh. That's not.

Speaker 3 Okay.

Speaker 3 That's how I knew. That's how I knew she wasn't straight.
She was like, do you ever just like, I was like, wait, no. Wait.

Speaker 3 Okay, that's actually. Don't finish that sentence.

Speaker 3 You need to like take a math. I don't even know.

Speaker 4 Just so we feel like maybe Grace Ann is like the least filthy PR trained.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Yeah. The least trained so many notes during media training.
She She did.

Speaker 5 Who do you all like? Is there one of you in the group who feels the most picked on by the rest?

Speaker 3 Grace Ann.

Speaker 3 Grace Ann thinks she is. She actually is.
No, you are. I don't think it is.
It's you.

Speaker 3 That seems like one of us. It's me.
But then she's on the ground.

Speaker 3 We're so picked on. We're both the middle.

Speaker 3 We're both picked on, I would say. No, but you don't get picked on by the way.
You don't seem like you're not. You're never around.
I'm here around. You come on the TV and we're all like,

Speaker 3 don't even start. Yay! Literally.
I guess I was never. Grace Ann is the most picked up.
I get picked on.

Speaker 5 Is there anyone of you that could kind of like, I always, I'm like an only child with 10 siblings.

Speaker 3 That is insane to me still.

Speaker 3 That's wild.

Speaker 5 I'm very independent. I do my thing, you know.

Speaker 5 Is any one of you like could kind of disappear for a while and not talk to anyone?

Speaker 3 I do it all the time. I know it.
Yeah. It's one day and she's like, yeah, I do.

Speaker 3 I just wasn't like, I had a corporate job that I was at every single day. So I just naturally wasn't around during the day.
But yeah, I'll just. You're the most independent for sure.
For sure.

Speaker 3 Don't even talk to me. I'll disappear for months.
I have one of them in the bed with me. It'll be a lot of fun.
Where are you going?

Speaker 3 I usually am going to visit my boyfriend in Florida, and then I come back, and everyone's like, blah, blah, like picking on me. And I'm like, okay, I can't.
I got to go back. What's your boyfriend?

Speaker 3 I got to go back. He's a tech guy.
Tech guy. Yeah.
What is it? Tech startup. Tech startup.
It's a tech startup. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Crypto.

Speaker 3 No, not crypto. No.
No.

Speaker 3 It's like sports tech. Yeah, it's like sports startup.

Speaker 3 He's amazing. He's so smart.
Works so hard. Such a cutie.
I told him not to come on the show.

Speaker 3 Yeah, he fits in great.

Speaker 3 I told him not to come on the show because I actually want to keep him. And anyone that comes on is

Speaker 3 someone on the chopping block.

Speaker 5 So will you be dating for love going forward or will you be dating for the show? Day.

Speaker 3 No, I'm not going to ever have like a hired boyfriend for the show. I don't mean like hired, but that's crazy.

Speaker 3 I'm not going to do me.

Speaker 3 And if it's someone that, which all the people on my roster right now are not keen to be on the show, which is totally fine, I'm going to like, if I'm really, truly in love and I feel like.

Speaker 3 it's the right thing to do, you know, because it is, it is a fine line of balancing like your personal life.

Speaker 3 And if you're going to open up and be vulnerable and be on a show, you do want to share that, you know, like, because it's a part of your life.

Speaker 3 So I'll have to probably do some convincing if it ends up being one of the ones currently. Yeah, you have to make sure it's worth it first.

Speaker 5 Are you usually sliding?

Speaker 3 I never slide. You never slide.
Never slide. Is there someone who's like higher up on your list? In what?

Speaker 3 I would say there's a constant like one, two, three, four.

Speaker 3 And are they in the rest trickling and like, it's like

Speaker 3 there's been one at the tippity top for the past couple. Okay.

Speaker 3 Weeks. He's great.

Speaker 3 Yeah, we love him. Two weeks he's been top of the pyramid.
Wow. Which is pretty amazing.
And on the bottom of the pyramid. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 What's your love language?

Speaker 3 My love language?

Speaker 3 I'd say probably now that I'm, you know, someone went down on me in college in physical touch. No, I don't think it is.
No, no, I think it's

Speaker 3 words of affirmation. What do you think it is? I think it's anyone who does exactly what you want them to do.

Speaker 3 Be obsessed with me is her love language. Yeah, I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 5 But like what other than someone's face, like, what makes you like melt?

Speaker 3 Well, like, I think humor, honestly. Like, somebody being really funny.

Speaker 5 What it's your, what's your, and this is for everyone. Uh, what's your biggest ick?

Speaker 3 Biggest it.

Speaker 3 Oh, when someone freeloads and lives with you, that'll do it. That'll do it.

Speaker 3 I feel like when someone tries to, like, start shit between the sisters, or like, acts like they're closer like to you than like recently.

Speaker 3 No, but like anyone that tries to like be like, just wedge anything with the sisters. Yeah.
Yeah. I feel like

Speaker 3 for me, it's a guy that's just clearly insecure. i think it's really like everyone's insecure but a guy that just shows it and isn't read them for confident it's like

Speaker 3 yeah what's your mine is probably the same as sess if anyone tries to come in between us like what if a guy trips over his own feet that's i think that's funny i think if he laughs at all yeah like hands over his own feet is

Speaker 3 if he's like oh god sorry for sure okay but i have a really bad fall in this season so i i won't ship it's not the same for women though no and i was on roller dog

Speaker 5 but i've realized that well at least for my wife like any tripping is tripping throughout general clumsiness divorce yeah you know like

Speaker 5 divorce not looking anything other than like a superhero or manly where it's just like on our honeymoon natalie jumped over the pool wall and then i i lifted myself up and slipped off the wall

Speaker 3 and then she

Speaker 3 wasn't looking thank god i can't believe it looks like i was nervous on the moment or on the honeymoon no you know if you've ever heard anything like ick

Speaker 3 if you've ever seen a guy drink out of a water fountain

Speaker 3 why would anyone do that there's no know if you want to drink out of water fountains. Yeah, that's an interesting one.
Yeah, where was the last time you saw a water fountain?

Speaker 3 I also don't like flip-flops on a man. That's disgusting.
That's really cool.

Speaker 5 Also, shorts.

Speaker 3 I mean, honestly, like,

Speaker 5 men in the South really need to like...

Speaker 3 They need to clean that shit up.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I understand the humidity is hot, but like have some self-respect.

Speaker 3 Yeah, and having no sense of style is like... Yeah, that's a big one.

Speaker 5 Like the chucked in pulse.

Speaker 3 I like to put on a man. Oh, I like that.
Well, I don't have skinny jeans. Well, no, I'm holding on.

Speaker 5 Well, Nally had to get me out of skinny jeans.

Speaker 3 I don't like skinny French jeans. Yeah.

Speaker 3 I was.

Speaker 4 You'd like Chelsea boots.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I know.

Speaker 3 I had a black skinny jean with a rip.

Speaker 5 No, I was, I did all those terrible holes.

Speaker 3 No, it's okay.

Speaker 3 I'm good at biofiles. Yeah, but I'm, yeah, it was popular.
Yeah, no, it was

Speaker 3 cool. You know, I don't mind a skinny jean, but apparently I have terrible style.

Speaker 4 So I was about to ask who has the best style? Me.

Speaker 3 I think me. Me.
I think.

Speaker 3 You wear like jeans and tees all the time.

Speaker 3 I have the worst style. I do have the worst style.
I'm working really hard on it.

Speaker 3 But she's confident. It's almost like a competition instead of ugliest outfit.

Speaker 3 How is this? And I think it's a prank most of the time. I know.
She's just loud.

Speaker 3 I do just wear whatever I want. She doesn't trust me.
I honestly love it. It's very like Carrie Bradshaw.
It's just very opposite. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Like, I like it's refreshing because she will wear something so ugly. It is like, don't you like it? And I'm like, I guess.
I like your confidence.

Speaker 5 So Natalie said she's from the South. She is.
She's from Auburn.

Speaker 5 Oh, good.

Speaker 3 Auburn. Or Eagle.
Or Eagle. Our mom went there.

Speaker 5 She moved to New York when she was 16 and took dialect classes, so you couldn't hear her

Speaker 3 accent.

Speaker 5 But I can't hear it from any of you.

Speaker 3 But you all have played around with it.

Speaker 5 So like, how have you all lost the accent?

Speaker 3 All of our childhood videos, we have the

Speaker 3 country accent. It's not even southern country.

Speaker 3 And I think that, I don't know, I guess I left and went to Tulane at like 18 years old and it was full of people from the Northeast. And so I wasn't around southern people starting at 18.

Speaker 3 So for the last 10 years. But also when you moved to New York, like, I was kind of insecure about it in modeling because I didn't meet any other

Speaker 3 New Yorkers that had it.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Because I was there to like model and I had this agent who's like, if you're gonna like get try to get into acting, commercials, whatever, like you cannot sound like this.

Speaker 3 You are the biggest redneck ever. Like you can't.

Speaker 3 I want it back.

Speaker 4 I know. I know.
It comes out.

Speaker 3 Can't you do it? You can't do it.

Speaker 4 If I'm back home, it comes out.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 6 Like, I wish I could, I wish I could keep it. Yeah.

Speaker 3 I think it's just dialect classes. I think that is like you're just eating it out of yourself.

Speaker 5 Let's just hear it. Let's just go.
We love an accent.

Speaker 3 Brooks Clayer. Yeah, that's how we sound growing up.

Speaker 3 It really comes out. We're at home.
We go home. Also, if you meet my parents, you'll hear it.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
They don't.

Speaker 3 And when you're talking to like somebody with a southern accent, it comes out, I think. Yeah.
Yeah. When I'm talking to my grandma, it's like chameleon.

Speaker 4 We have when we have no country.

Speaker 4 When we have country singers on, we like interviews and I 100%.

Speaker 3 People will be like, Natalie, what the fuck is this? Yeah, I hear you. I hear it all the time.

Speaker 3 And I'm like, no, and that's me. I'm talking to my real voice.
It always happens.

Speaker 3 My boyfriend's dad is from Tennessee and he's really southern. I'm always like, hey, what's up? And I'm like, oh, my God.

Speaker 3 Sorry.

Speaker 3 I mean, we're like, we've weirdly been like nostalgic and drinking like Jack and Coke and stuff.

Speaker 3 Yeah. So we're like, Saints okay.
So drinking Jack and Coke.

Speaker 3 Hell yeah.

Speaker 4 We were just in Nashville hanging out with some friends and they were like, let's have some like some whiskey.

Speaker 3 And we were like, yeah.

Speaker 3 I know it.

Speaker 3 That sounds delicious.

Speaker 3 Maybe we'll put my parents on the pod next and you can hear the real accent, real dance. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 5 Do they tone it down for the show?

Speaker 3 No. No,

Speaker 3 no, yeah.

Speaker 3 They're there. They're there.
Yeah, they're there. They're there.

Speaker 3 They're there. They do exist.
They're there.

Speaker 3 Was it hard to get them to agree to do it? No. They will do anything for us.
No. Yeah, they'll do whatever.

Speaker 3 I mean, of course, they've given me the whole spiel of like, so, you know, like all of Baton Rouge is having watch parties.

Speaker 3 And like, you know, my dad's really cute, though, because he goes, he FaceTimes me and he goes, so when are we going to start filming season two? Because I have some ideas.

Speaker 3 And I go, oh, soon, dad, whatever. Hopefully soon.
And he goes, so is it the deal like however many we want as many TVs as possible tuning in? I go, I guess so.

Speaker 3 He goes, So, we've got four here in the house, so those are going to be running on a loop.

Speaker 3 Yeah, serious, by the way. He goes, And then Mozzie has two at her house, I agree with her, and um, Edna down the street has three.

Speaker 3 So, I told him just to keep him running and I'll pay for the bill or whatever, but keep them running. And I was like, He's not working his friends out.

Speaker 3 I know, yeah,

Speaker 3 I know,

Speaker 5 they make it work, it really, like, I think they're like, I feel like they're the glue.

Speaker 3 They really are.

Speaker 5 Final question before I let you all ladies go. But do you have, are you comparing yourselves to anyone's out there? I mean, obviously, I think maybe the closest comp.

Speaker 4 I think it's definitely this, it's, it's very much OG keeping up with the Kardashians in the best way that I think they lost it.

Speaker 4 And I think they started caring too much about the public and lost kind of it in between each other. And I think it's like.
the best, most nostalgic watch.

Speaker 3 Well, thank you.

Speaker 3 If you're a watching nostalgic in the early 2000s, like Simple Life, the Hills. Yeah, I mean, that's kind of what I was getting.

Speaker 5 I was very much kind of giving Kardashians in a great way.

Speaker 4 I feel like when Keeping Up came out, I feel like a lot of families or sisters were like, my God, like we could

Speaker 3 know us.

Speaker 4 You know, you'd tell you, you're the Chloe, you're the Kim. You know, you'd kind of like name yourselves.

Speaker 4 And I feel like that's kind of what y'all are doing for maybe this next generation, which I think is really cool.

Speaker 3 We hope so.

Speaker 3 We hope we resonate. Everyone loves that shit.

Speaker 3 See themselves in one sister.

Speaker 3 Totally.

Speaker 3 I feel like it's so different. The only thing that makes it different is we didn't grow up in like Hollywood or around anybody famous.

Speaker 3 And so I feel like it's such an interesting, like some people are saying, this is like sex in the city meets swamp people, meets the Beverly Hillbillies.

Speaker 3 And the Beverly Hillbillies, by the way, mom and dad, cousins, aunts, and uncles are on the way to the house. So I can't wait to see that country jack and coke fits them.

Speaker 3 I feel like it's just.

Speaker 3 kind of something that's aspirational and something that, you know, someone watching in Louisiana or in South Carolina can see and be like, oh my gosh, she moved to New York and had nothing and built something.

Speaker 3 And I feel like in these days, it's like the American dream for sure. And you can do that.
You really just can.

Speaker 4 Especially that apartment y'all are living in.

Speaker 3 I know. Right.
I know.

Speaker 5 Well, I've seen a lot of TV and not that my opinion matters, but I think it's going to be a big difference.

Speaker 3 It does matter. You heard it here first.

Speaker 3 Yeah, excited.

Speaker 4 Love thy neighbor for it, Emmy.

Speaker 3 Yay!

Speaker 5 Congratulations, ladies, on the show. I think it's honestly going to be a big hit, and we'll have to have you back.

Speaker 3 We will definitely be honest.

Speaker 3 That's the thing we're hanging out in. I know, y'all are sitting there.
I know. Let's do it.
Please, if y'all are ever in the world. We'll drink Jack and Coke.
Honestly, it's absolutely frisky.

Speaker 3 We're having like a Raisin Canes Food Chuck Cafe Demon. We have a little party tonight.
Come tonight. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
There you go.

Speaker 3 That's where you'll hear our southern accents come out. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Yay! Yay! Yay!

Speaker 4 We also got invited to your premiere on Wednesday night.

Speaker 3 Yay! Yay!

Speaker 3 This is the warm-up. We really want you guys to come to the next step.
Yeah,

Speaker 3 you get Natalie's number. Okay, yeah.

Speaker 3 Total idea.

Speaker 3 Other reality stars being attended.

Speaker 3 And other stars.

Speaker 3 Okay.

Speaker 3 No, but you guys are the stars. All right, well.
Okay, yeah, you gotta get it. Get out of here.

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