E906 - Victoria Fuller, Bachelor Finale, Southern Charm, Summer House, Ashton Hall, & Tiger Woods New Boo

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Speaker 2 What's going on, everybody? Welcome back to another episode of the Vile Files Reality Recap Edition.

Speaker 2 I am your host, Nick, with my wife, and we have a very special guest today, Victoria Fuller, is with us. Yay! yay yay

Speaker 2 look who came to visit I am here oh my gosh

Speaker 2 I love uh connecting with you uh you're always on the go we're always on the go we happy to find ourselves in the same place we have a little pop-up here a pop-up studio yes

Speaker 2 like some would say like a um

Speaker 2 a coffee shop on wheels you know this

Speaker 2 yeah yes a food truck like all over the place no i like it it looks really good you guys did a amazing job what have you been up to Oh, last life. What's going on? Right.
Right in there, huh?

Speaker 2 She's been up to Block. I have been in Jamaica.

Speaker 2 I was not in Jamaica. I was in the Bahamas.
Yes, of course.

Speaker 2 Why were you in the Bahamas? Oh,

Speaker 2 for vacation. Okay.

Speaker 2 To get some sun. Yeah.
Do I look like I got bronzed? You do. You have great color.
Thank you. I was like, oh, my wife's real pale.
I was kidding.

Speaker 2 I was waiting. Shots fired.
I was waiting.

Speaker 2 She's like, and we will be going to Jamaica.

Speaker 2 I feel like the giving shit is only allowed in one direction. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah. No, I appreciate you giving me shit.
You do.

Speaker 2 But not today.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but not now. No.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 I'll let you know when I'm ready.

Speaker 2 I will let you know and I'll tell you. Yes.
You were with the pigs. I was.
Exuma.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Do you feel like they, um, like PETA should be called? No. They're the opposite.
They're thriving. I think they're thriving.
Well, also they're wild pigs. So

Speaker 2 they're nice to people.

Speaker 2 I guess they're not. They also made an appearance on Ben Higgins season.
They went to the Bahamas. Oh.
And they played. I was like, who? One of the group dates is with playing with these famous.

Speaker 2 Yeah. So there's 200 wild pigs and they live on an island.
Well, multiple islands. But yeah, it was really cool.
And no, we should not be calling PETA. They're wild pigs.
I didn't know.

Speaker 2 I thought they were in the future. But they leave water for the forest.
No, no, like they're, they like live there. Do you pay to go see them? well

Speaker 2 you pay a charter of course

Speaker 2 so you do have to pay a fee to get on a boat to get on a boat to go there and go to exuma okay yeah and that's a separate island from nassau yeah okay so we flew into nassau which is where like bahamar no no shout outs no freebies but that's like a really cool resort there and Yeah, we just hung out.

Speaker 2 It was my friend's birthday and we

Speaker 2 gambled. Oh.
Did you win anything? What's your game? I didn't. Well, my game was more like spend other people's money.
Yes, of course. Yeah.
So I was just

Speaker 2 like is it like blow on the dice and wish people luck? Yes. That's your game.
Yes. And then they'd be like, oh, what color? And I'm like,

Speaker 2 what are we choosing from? My favorite color is pink. Yeah.

Speaker 2 They're like, that's not. They're like, that's actually not.
Yeah. It's like a black or red situation.
Yes, yes. So I did figure that out pretty quickly, considering.

Speaker 2 Did anyone like split their winnings with you? No, they did not, unfortunately. But I did get a couple free drinks.
Oh,

Speaker 2 I felt like you could do that without the gambling. Yeah, probably.

Speaker 2 So here we are. Yes, of course.

Speaker 2 Well, we have a great week lined up for you. Obviously, I don't, we've, you know, our world's been a little crazy, so we've had to mix things up.

Speaker 2 It's a very special week. We are actually, though, going to have a reality recap tomorrow.
which is usually our going deepers, but Thursday is actually going to be a going deeper.

Speaker 2 And I'm not going to say with whom it's going to be with because like every time we every time we like put it out there like some crazy shit happens but it's uh going to be epic and i feel like it's going to serve a need that a lot of people are asking for uh a lot of people are hoping it would happen and we were told it wasn't going to happen so now and i stepped up and we made it happen and we made it happen so that's what we will say uh that's going to be thursday and it's going to be epic it's going to be fun and i can't wait it's going to be messy it's going to be a lot it's going to be a lot a lot so this is very vague but i'm so excited i can't wait wait to find out we told you yes i know i'm just pretending no i know but what do you think she was acting i was acting now i do no i think it's really exciting i think people are really gonna love it it's gonna be a lot of fun speaking of acting i heard a rumor oh

Speaker 2 acting acting and cast in a film well that's just that's that's

Speaker 2 that's me throwing a little shade at myself. Oh, yeah, because you are an actor.

Speaker 2 I have been paid. Yes, to act.
a Christmas cruise. Six Christmas Cruise starring Vivique Fox.
Wait, what? Oh my God.

Speaker 2 Come on. Mary, can you show Victor? Is this a Hallmark? Can you show Victoria? Well, I mean, like, it was like

Speaker 2 Hallmark-esque, like, but it wasn't. It was like the knockoff version.
It was like the minor leagues of Hallmark. That's okay.
Owan. Ion.
Ion. What channel? I don't know.
It's very cool. What channel?

Speaker 2 Ion. I know what you're talking about.
Ion. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
It was there for, it was their Christmas channel. Mary, can you bring up the movie poster for a Christmas cruise starring Vivique Fox and

Speaker 2 Nick Files?

Speaker 2 I am in the poster board. No, you're not.

Speaker 2 Yeah. It was like right after the bachelor.
So like they, I played Bob the whole time.

Speaker 2 Thank you very much.

Speaker 2 Wow. Two scenes.
I'm married to an actor. Two scenes.
You are on the poster board. I'm married to an actor.
I've never seen it.

Speaker 2 Oh,

Speaker 2 you're scared. Yeah.
Let's watch it together. I'm going to watch my watch.
Put it on the big screen right now. Yeah.

Speaker 2 He'll have two scenes. I'm sure we could get through it pretty quick.

Speaker 2 So anyways, back to this rumor I heard. Yeah.
I heard

Speaker 2 a rumor that before the bachelorette was put on pause, that you were on an extraordinarily short list of people who were being considered

Speaker 2 as the next bachelorette for the ABC franchise. Excuse you what?

Speaker 2 Excuse you what?

Speaker 2 Do you feel like that's how you delivered it? No, it was like, excuse you what? That's what it was. It was more aggressive.

Speaker 2 Can I get the iconic excuse you what? Like a real

Speaker 2 pure, just, yeah. What did he say first? He said, excuse me.
And I said, excuse you, what?

Speaker 2 I got chills. Period.
That was true. So anyways,

Speaker 2 is there any truth to this rumor?

Speaker 2 And if I can be clear, I heard it from a few people, but sometimes rumors aren't true. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I cannot confirm or deny. No, I can confirm.

Speaker 2 Yes, I'll confirm. And thank God.

Speaker 2 When I heard that rumor, and I heard this rumor after it was put on pause, I also heard that there, you know, that short list were some of your usual suspects of people you might suspect.

Speaker 2 I was furious. I was furious because I thought that would be an epic decision.

Speaker 2 They maybe have some good options. There were some other, you know, people that people have been calling for.

Speaker 2 But Peter's season was one of the more iconic seasons. We haven't had,

Speaker 2 I don't remember the last time we called a bachelor or a bachelorette season iconic. Yeah.
You're an iconic character. Oh, I'm not a character.
I'm a person. Well, you know,

Speaker 2 Andrew character.

Speaker 2 Have you ever watched it back and been like, I don't know who that bitch is? Yeah, all the time. Like when I see clips and stuff, I'm like, oh, who is she? Yeah.
That's so interesting. Yeah.
But yeah.

Speaker 2 And I don't know if you're on the top of their list or you never know because they will talk to another people or where you

Speaker 2 fell in.

Speaker 2 So there were at least some conversations. There was rumblings around.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 I'm so upset. I know.
I I think you would have been fantastic. Thank you, Nay.
You would have been, they need to bring back some people from that era. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I agree. Because we had like a cult following, if you will.
Like people definitely knew like specific lines that we said or specific like dates that we went on. And I think that that would have,

Speaker 2 we'll see what happens in the future. I think it would have pulled older fans back into it.

Speaker 2 I just want you to know that ever since I've heard this rumor, I have been trying to do my part. You want intelligence.

Speaker 2 For anyone that I think could be involved in this decision, I've been saying, y'all fucked up and you should have just picked Victoria. Don't overthink this.
Thank you. She would be excellent.

Speaker 2 It would be dramatic. And it would be an entire season of promos being like, excuse me, what? No, literally.

Speaker 2 And I think the thing with that is like, I think when I first was considering this, it was very much like, I didn't, I didn't think it was for me. I was like, I don't think I can go back to that.

Speaker 2 So it took me like a minute to adjust to the idea of like possibly even doing it. And then after like a week, I was like, okay, maybe I'll consider and I'll have more conversation around it.

Speaker 2 And then that's when they put everything on pause. Is when I like to do it.
Oh, she's not going to do it. She's not going to do it.
We have to cancel. The whole season's canceled.

Speaker 2 Everything sounds so.

Speaker 2 We don't have Victoria. We have nothing.
Yes.

Speaker 2 And so, and just to be clear, because obviously people run with rumors. And you weren't actually, you were never actually asked or anything like that.
You were

Speaker 2 just rumblings, conversations. Conversations were.
Are you interested if we go this direction type of stuff? But I'm sure other people were being talked to as well. Oh, absolutely.

Speaker 2 We don't want to put you in a position where you're claiming that it was like a done. Cause like, you know, we've heard all these different things, like, oh, so-and-so was asked and blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 2 Or, you know, yada, yada. No.
And I think that they, from my experience, they ask multiple people and then you kind of go through another interview process.

Speaker 2 And so, again, like you said, it was probably narrowed down to a shorter list. And

Speaker 2 maybe or maybe not, I was on that list. I think you were on a very, very short list of three.
I have two. That's what I heard.
Of two.

Speaker 2 Wait, really? One. Three.
I think three. Yeah.
Yeah. I could see that.
And I mean, people obviously will probably deduct whoever else they think it was. Yeah, it's pretty easy to guess.
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 2 But yeah. No, it was, it was very endearing that they still thought five years later to call me and and say, hey, how do you feel about this?

Speaker 2 And I'm like, well, first I get, I'm like, what the fuck do they want?

Speaker 2 I'm like, oh, oh, no. I'm like, hello.
I'm like kind of scared to answer the phone. I'm like, what do you want? First, I like, I didn't answer.
I just texted. I'm like, hey, what's up?

Speaker 2 I'm busy right now, but can you want to do this over too? Do I just like texted about it or what's going on?

Speaker 2 But no, they all are great over there.

Speaker 2 And by all, you mean like, who do you know who's left working there? Cause like everyone's been either fired or quit or let go. It's crazy.

Speaker 2 It's like when I was first on the show, one of the like producers is now an executive producer there.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's it is weird. It's a there's a lot going on there.
Can you imagine when they got to hometowns and then the middle like hometowns? It will be Victoria's first.

Speaker 2 Stop.

Speaker 2 Congratulations. But you didn't show up.
Yes. No, your family showed up.
No, my family was definitely there. They showed up.
I excused Peter from hometown.

Speaker 2 It's like, actually, this isn't going to happen. So you just walked back inside being like, hey, guys.
Did you actually talk to your family that night?

Speaker 2 Like, after, because like when we watched it, it looked like you were just like, I'm not fucking doing this. And like, this is stupid.
And you like walked off.

Speaker 2 And it made it seem like your family was like, where's our kid? Yeah, like, where's our daughter? Is she okay out there? And they're just like talking and waiting.

Speaker 2 No, I mean, they actually all came outside because they finally allowed them to come outside and see what was happening.

Speaker 2 And I was just like sobbing because, I mean, we all know what happened, and anybody would feel really weird in that situation. Remind us.
Do I have to? That was a long time ago. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yes, of course. Let me go back into my memory bank.
I love relieving trauma. Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 2 We love a good timeline.

Speaker 2 We love a good timeline. Oh, my God.
We have that saved on our soundboard. But no, they ended up coming outside and, you know, consoling me because that was a really weird thing that happened.

Speaker 2 Why didn't she go?

Speaker 2 Peter was questioning your integrity. Yes, he was.
He was questioning my integrity. And anyways, you weren't having it.
He was not going to meet my family that night. That's for sure.

Speaker 2 So.

Speaker 2 Or ever.

Speaker 2 Well, we now,

Speaker 2 well, since we're on the topic, we now know that Grant is engaged to Juliana. So congratulations to the happy couple.

Speaker 2 Thoughts and prayers for Latia.

Speaker 2 Also, thoughts and prayers for Juliana and Grant as they do watch back everything that Grant said to Latia because I thought she was very like her way of being like, you're going to have to have some tough conversations with the things that you said to me.

Speaker 2 Yeah. It'll be interesting.
We are recording this before AFR. We've seen the finale, but we haven't seen the live AFR.
So we don't know what Latia said last night.

Speaker 2 For those of you who watched, we're not familiar with what happened, you know, whatever confrontation. We'll obviously talk about that tomorrow.

Speaker 2 I will say, I thought Grant did an excellent job, you know, as someone who knows the position he was in. And like, Grant is someone who is very green.

Speaker 2 You can tell, like, he didn't even make it, like yourself, didn't make it to hometowns for different reasons. He made it to hometowns.
No, you made it. Yes, sir.
I'm sorry. I don't want to like

Speaker 2 Grant didn't even make it to hometowns. You opted out.
Yes, I opted out. Grant wasn't even given the choice to not go

Speaker 2 to his hometowns. So he was obviously under the direction, clearly, of the show and the producers.

Speaker 2 And to me, it's obvious that he is following a lot of other people's leads and trusting a lot of people. Right.
Listen, like the bachelor and the bachelor's, they are accountable for their choices.

Speaker 2 Yada, yada, yada. But like he...
No. It's the saying, I love you.
And then the breaking up. It's the, if my only note to Grant is like, maybe don't kiss her twice

Speaker 2 or constantly say, but I love you. Like in general, people just like PSA for the world.

Speaker 2 If you're going to break up with someone, do not say things like, but I still love you and I still care about you. And like, like, but no, just

Speaker 2 be the bad guy. Be the bad guy.
Let them be mad.

Speaker 2 Other than that, though, I thought Grant was like, when he was like, you know what, you're right. I'm going to own.
Like, he just, he, he took, he knew he was going to take it on the chin.

Speaker 2 Uh, I thought he did the best he could. He's clearly a guy who's very respectful and like did his best.
And also,

Speaker 2 I think he was forced to wait as long as he did. And I think he was told to say things that let him Latia and he's in a bad spot.
Totally get where Latia is coming from.

Speaker 2 I don't know what she said last night, and you know, she basically made it seem like she was going to come in with a lot of like receipts, receipts where, like, well, you have a lot of like explaining to do.

Speaker 2 My guess is, is that like it's really not that big of a deal, yeah. At being in, I literally, as someone who's been in her position twice, knows exactly what she's going through.

Speaker 2 I'm sure she spent every day from the time Grant broke up with her to last night thinking about all the things Grant said to her that felt fucked up, that felt like she was led on, misled.

Speaker 2 And I have no doubt that she's justified to feel that way, but like, I don't think he did anything like

Speaker 2 really egregious. Like, right.
We already know nothing happened in the fantasy suite because Latia's is like, now I'm good. Like, well, we assume.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 But I don't think Latia's.

Speaker 2 I'm guessing Latia's not going to come out and be like, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't think she's going to be as stupid as me.

Speaker 2 Yes, you're an idiot. Yeah.

Speaker 2 So there's that. Throwback.
Throwback. TBG.
How do you feel about that, Natalie?

Speaker 2 Don't think you need to do that.

Speaker 2 So also it must suck to be in her position because like,

Speaker 2 if you have a broken heart, you at least want the world to see. And I just don't know if a lot of people watch, you know,

Speaker 2 so. Oh, they didn't? I don't think it's a highly performing season.
No. I don't.
Well, I don't think the past couple have been great.

Speaker 2 Well, and also Peter's, you know. Well, of course.
Well, did they had a

Speaker 2 nice bump with And then

Speaker 2 yeah, I would say Joey's did well. But I just, yeah, I don't know if I,

Speaker 2 even watching it, like as a viewer, and I know the position she's like sort of in, it, I don't know. All of, I think that breakup was just really strange to me from both parties.

Speaker 2 I think you could just really tell that she was blindsided as fuck. Oh, yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 But also,

Speaker 2 I don't know. I just.

Speaker 2 Like, she was clear. I mean, they were pumping her full of confidence

Speaker 2 the night before. Yeah, of course.
They're like

Speaker 2 you, you have nothing to worry about. She could not do that.
And then they make her oh, yeah. And then they make you like, then she's doing b-roll.

Speaker 2 She's like walking through the rain and she like can barely move her little feet. I was like, oh, she's like adopting tourists.

Speaker 2 No, when they, I guarantee you, when she woke up that day, the first producer to greet her said, you're getting engaged today. Oh, for sure.
Guaranteed. Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 2 Yeah. They deserve prison.
Oh, no, they do.

Speaker 2 No TV show. Well, and that's not making a TV show.
They don't need to say that to make a TV show.

Speaker 2 I know. But it makes for good TV when you have like a lead who's going to follow whatever you say.
And so they probably did, they probably encouraged him to tell her, like, I love you and I love you.

Speaker 2 And I think that's where you kind of have to, when you're in like your position where you have to be like, no, I'm not going to say that. What's also another thing they do say, which is true, right?

Speaker 2 Like if the lead's having a lot of reluctance, especially if it's the bachelor and it's a, when it's the bachelor, they basically will ask the lead to fall on the sword. Right.

Speaker 2 Because if the lead's feeling bad, they're like, I'm feel bad. They're like, listen, I know this feels shitty.

Speaker 2 They, they kind of said the same thing to Caitlin when I was in Latia's shoes, but it's like, the best moment anyone has is when they get broken up with, you know, and when they, when, when America feels sorry for them.

Speaker 2 Right. So they will convince the lead to follow through by saying like, listen, just, and they're not wrong.

Speaker 2 I mean, there, there's a lot of truth to this statement by saying, you know, it's going to feel shitty.

Speaker 2 And yeah, it's going to, I know you're doing a shitty thing, but you're going to give her this moment. Right.
You know, and you're going to give us this moment to give it to her.

Speaker 2 There is a lot of truth to that because like this is, you know, again, we don't know what America is saying. We don't know how many people watched last night.
We don't know what she said at AFR. But,

Speaker 2 you know, the only thing we are anticipating in the AFR is what was Latia going to say? Right. You know, and she now was given this moment to be a star.

Speaker 2 When she got in the limo, she was like, you know, gave that your, she gave us a little typical audition. You know, it's not, you know, I'm still looking for it.
Maybe I'll find it someday. I know.

Speaker 2 I heard that. I was like, oh, there we go.
Do you think they give them that to say? If they don't sit on their own. Yeah, they do.
And like

Speaker 2 little BTS, but they'll like drive around with you until you like get it right. Yeah.
Yeah. Like you'll be driving around and they're like, better cry more.
Or like, and if you do need more tears,

Speaker 2 if you do need more tears, they do have Visine in the car.

Speaker 2 Oh, that's true. Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah. Ruthless.
That sounds like the Severance, what they do in Severance, and they make you write the thing over and over again until you're really sorry.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I am. Did you finish? No, I'm not finished yet.
I know. I'm like not caught up on anything.

Speaker 2 What have you been doing?

Speaker 2 Living my life?

Speaker 2 I don't just watch TV all day. Thank you very much.
Can you earmuff for a second? Oh, my gosh. I can't earmuffs because I have to.
Should I take them off? Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 2 I just want to like just, for the people who did watch, I found the ending of severance very you have to talk quieter okay sorry screaming

Speaker 2 did you did you find the ending satisfying disappointing or or it left me excited for the next season I would agree at first I was a bit I was a bit frustrated that um

Speaker 2 are you not can you hear I have to humber something I was a bit frustrated about at first because because like any

Speaker 2 was like, oh, I'm not going to go anywhere.

Speaker 2 But at least she got up. Yeah.
That's why I'm excited. It was very satisfying.
It makes me excited for the next had she not gotten because we need a season three.

Speaker 2 If anyone complaining about the end, then like, did you want this to be a season? And what do you really think about Victoria? Yeah.

Speaker 2 I don't know. She's something she's already.
Oh, yeah, we're done. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We're done. Fuck.
Is that about Light Lotus? No. Severance.
Okay.

Speaker 2 Do you guys want to watch them tonight and come back tomorrow? Yeah. I would love to do that, actually.
Okay.

Speaker 2 All right. Victoria's going to be our guest tomorrow for reality.

Speaker 2 I'm never leaving.

Speaker 2 Great. All right.
Well,

Speaker 2 I guess we can talk about this tomorrow, but since we are on the topic of severance and White Lotus, did you see that Jennifer Coolidge gives a spicy update on how White Lotus changed her sex life?

Speaker 2 She said, These men like you better because they feel like you went through something. That show really upped my game.
Do they think that she like actually died? And they're like, oh my.

Speaker 2 These gays trying to murder me.

Speaker 2 Wow. That's not crazy.

Speaker 2 Period says pop off. I would love to know just like what her DMs look like.
How low? How young do you think she goes? 20s, for sure. Barely legal.
Barely legal. 20s.
She should. 20s.
As she should.

Speaker 2 I love that for her. I would love to know her roster.
We love an older man. Like,

Speaker 2 who's her Everest? We also do love an older man. Maybe she's going older.
And I love that for her even more. Speaking of age gaps, when we announced our relationship, I was a bit nervous.

Speaker 2 Like, I was like, oh, God. Say the least.

Speaker 2 I just was managing all the names that may be thrown my direction. Like, what? What about my direction? You weren't thinking of that.
He was not thinking about you during that time.

Speaker 2 You weren't thinking of Child Bride because that would really stop.

Speaker 2 Really stuck with me.

Speaker 2 Yeah, well.

Speaker 2 Try to comment that on our Instagram now. You won't be able to.
Because he has blocked those words.

Speaker 2 Period. Mental health.
Thank you very much.

Speaker 2 Recently or yesterday, Tiger Woods announced his new girlfriend. Wonderful.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 I actually saw that on my

Speaker 2 timeline. Not Facebook timeline.
It's what is it? It's going to Facebook. Feed, feed, feed, feed.
No, I'm not. But

Speaker 2 the only thing I could see really was like the receding hairline on her or him. On him.
Oh.

Speaker 2 I was shocked. I don't care who he's dating or is he going to be there.

Speaker 2 I was like, we need plugs. You have such money.
We need money. What are we doing? You need to go to Turkey.

Speaker 2 get a wig something away he doesn't even need to go to turkey don't those guys go to turkey because it's like less expensive no apparently it's like really good for them like i don't know like i think in turkey they've really mastered

Speaker 2 the procedure here they don't just like a group on thing no it's that they do a really good job okay i had a friend that went over there it does seem odd that with all the money he has and he still has a receding hairline anyways back to who he's dating anyway who is he he's dating a vanessa trump i don't even know if we're allowed to say that word because it's triggering for some people very bad word.

Speaker 2 But she's not an actual.

Speaker 2 She was married to his son. Which one? It doesn't matter.
I like my suitcase. So she kept a name, though?

Speaker 2 I mean, I guess she was like, that's good. She was like Marriott.

Speaker 2 She's like, Trump, baby. She said it's better than Smith.
Yep. Is she like in the fam? She is the ex-daughter-in-law.

Speaker 2 I doubt she is still in the fam. I don't think she's still invited to

Speaker 2 she is not invited to family dinners.

Speaker 2 She's not going to Thanksgiving. What I mean, because Tiger Woods kind of like, you know, don't you want Tiger Woods going to your dinner party? What if he's like a fan? Oh, but it was

Speaker 2 Woods. Woods was at the inauguration.
Oh, he got like dirty. It's an off, it's a family affair.

Speaker 2 It's a family affair. Yeah.
Maybe he will be there for Thanksgiving. Does new girlfriend have kids?

Speaker 2 Honey, you're asking questions about people that I know absolutely nothing about. All right, moving on.

Speaker 2 No,

Speaker 2 not a clue. I could not tell you honestly what her hair color even is it was blonde oh okay but i barely noticed with the receiving one

Speaker 2 you're still stuck on that i'm still stuck on it we won't get past jennifer aniston and pedro pascal spark romance rumors with three-hour dinner can't two people eat dinner wait what repeat jennifer aniston and pedro pascal spark romance rumors with three-hour dinner

Speaker 2 I mean, the people out here are just. Maybe they're going to be in a new film.
He's got a new film called The Mentalist coming out. Speaking of being an actor, I auditioned for that role.

Speaker 2 I auditioned to play his brother.

Speaker 2 And I was reading lines with him.

Speaker 2 We didn't get it.

Speaker 2 I was honestly a little like, I was like. What was the audition process? Most audition processes nowadays, you just like, you film, you don't even go in.
It's like post-COVID.

Speaker 2 They're just like, you know what? Just send something in. Yeah, like a video.
I was shocked that I got an audition.

Speaker 2 It was like, I forget the apologies to the director and writer, but she is a legit person.

Speaker 2 And obviously, Pedro Pascal and like

Speaker 2 Dakota Johnson's in it. Like it's star-studded.
Oh, wait. The new audition.
It's a kind of a dating.

Speaker 2 She's like. Is it Channing in it or something?

Speaker 2 Chris Evans or Chris. Yeah, Chris Evans is.
Chris Evans. Chris Evans.
Yeah. Anyways, I auditioned to play Pedro Pascal's brother.
Wow. They talk a lot of life.
I literally,

Speaker 2 and I was like,

Speaker 2 because sometimes when I get auditions, I'm always like, and if, you know, the show, we're busy here, I got a lot of things going on. I'm just like, dude,

Speaker 2 should i own this i'm like i got i got like i have so much to do and anyways uh we did you know they were like i was like did they

Speaker 2 i literally called my manager like they know who i am right like not in a like a they know who i am no but it is more like are they sure are they sure like this is like a real movie this wasn't you know it's it's not christmas cruise i was gonna say but he did book the christmas cruise and he did and he was a star and you also had to kiss a man and something else didn't you oh i did way to call him out well it was no i'm not shamed i was acting You was acting.

Speaker 2 And you were acting. I'm not a shamper.
No, you shouldn't be. It was called The Coupe.
The Coop. What, what?

Speaker 2 I played like a hot, like a hot self-duty. That's, I know, but I was like, I was.
Why is that the first thing we were using? I played a hot, sexy,

Speaker 2 amazing. I was the hot hottie.

Speaker 2 I was the house hottie that was a little dumb and stupid. My sexuality was, yes.
Okay.

Speaker 2 You're fluid. I'm, I'm.
Do you want to have sex? Yes.

Speaker 2 That was, was, you know, and so, and this character. And how did you get ready for this role? Oh, and you want to know?

Speaker 2 So, and I have, I can show you when we get done. I have to go.
No, please don't.

Speaker 2 It was the guy who, you ever seen the movie Project X? Yeah. The troublemaker friend? Okay.
That's the guy I kissed. Oh.

Speaker 2 And then. That's a good one to kiss.
And then on the couch next to us doing the scene was the sister in Severance. Oh, Debbie.
Oh. Yeah.
Interesting. So you are Hollywood.

Speaker 2 I'm, no, like a little, yeah, I got you. You're literally Hollywood.

Speaker 2 You married an actor. No, I'm a coop.
The coop.

Speaker 2 Are you in that post-Buster? Buster's in it, too. Is that Nick? Is that Adam? No, it's not.
That's me. No, did they Photoshop you in? That looks good.
We definitely did not take that photo together.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's, it was low budge. What if they took that photo together and then they're like, and then they end up with a ton of people? We will put him down there.

Speaker 2 That actually probably might have happened. Yeah.
Honestly, you are.

Speaker 2 You're an actor. I'm really,

Speaker 2 we need to watch your films. I think we should have a weekend where we just watch all of Nick's films.

Speaker 2 I don't even know if you can find a movie because that was like made for like some kind of like app streaming TV show. How old were you? I don't know, like

Speaker 2 2018, maybe 2019. He's like, like, he was like, my podcast was just so into that.
So it was after 2019, 2020, maybe? Okay. Got it.
Pre-COVID. Very cool.
Yeah. Interesting.

Speaker 2 I didn't know I was in the room with a star. Oh,

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Speaker 2 Should we get into some Southern Charm? You watch that. Did you know? First of all, did you know that this episode was called Arrested Development? I do now because I saw it, which is kind of great.

Speaker 2 Can they take that? It is a term. I understand it's the title of a very famous good show, but it's like, it's like saying, can you take the word friends?

Speaker 2 Okay. Okay.
That was a good analogy. Fine.
I'm sold. Good to know.
Moving on. So we can still use the word friends and arrested development.

Speaker 2 It's a bit of a dig to their cast. How? Well, do you know what arrested development means? Let's not do this.
Let's get the

Speaker 2 definition. A stoppage or failure in the normal progression of physical or mental development.
Oh. Like it's suggesting that like Shep, possibly Craig.
Possibly.

Speaker 2 It doesn't like Peter Baham syndrome. It just named the cast.

Speaker 2 It didn't say Shep or Craig. Well, Shep, Austin, and Craig are the stars, obviously, of this.
I mean, let's not pretend they're not the main focus of the show. They really were.

Speaker 2 It was like five episodes of the Bahamas. And they are all 40-year-old men who, for various reasons, are like, Shep has hats in his living room.
Like,

Speaker 2 it looks like a college dorm. Yeah.
The main thing I took from this episode is that when they're forced to throw a party for an episode,

Speaker 2 I don't want to go. No, I do not want to go.

Speaker 2 So boring. Manufacturer reality TV parties are brutal.
I hate that because like the final episode, you can tell that they were forced to do this like, you know, everyone get together.

Speaker 2 It's the final episode.

Speaker 2 And it's boring. I was like, is there even music? Everyone's just like small talking.
No, you know there's no music because they can't have music because they're filming. So they're just talking.

Speaker 2 I just really appreciated Miss Pat when she just got there, walked straight inside and was like, it's too hot for this. Yes, she walked straight inside.
She didn't even.

Speaker 2 Isn't she a producer on the show? Her Her as Whitney. Why then why would she interrupt an argument to say goodbye to her? Because she don't give a kid.

Speaker 2 There's like producers and then there's been like, you know, yeah, she's like, I'm out.

Speaker 2 But it's like, she's like, knock, knock. She clearly isn't there to like.
keep the drama ensuing. No.
She was like, I have to say my goodbyes to my friends. Yeah.
My young friends. Yeah.

Speaker 2 She's like, bye.

Speaker 2 They're like arguing. But that place did look empty and not fun.
And also a place I don't want to do. How do you guys feel about,

Speaker 2 this is my podcast now. How do you feel about the whole JT drama? You're allowed to ask questions.
Okay, good.

Speaker 2 This is a conversation.

Speaker 2 I think he said something fucked up.

Speaker 2 And he is like really trying to. He's finding, he's trying to figure out what word best goes with the word black.
Okay. He's like, I said

Speaker 2 a cute black girl, woman, a woman. I called you.
That's what I said.

Speaker 2 And then it's like all of you just, why'd you just describe her at all? Like, why couldn't you just say, like, there's this great person? Yeah. Her name's Vanita.
Right.

Speaker 2 He was getting like just too descriptive with it. Yeah.
I don't know. I don't, I don't know how I feel about that whole situation.
Do you like him? No, it's not that I like him.

Speaker 2 I just don't know if they're like

Speaker 2 making reality TV or if he actually did something because she continues to stand up for him.

Speaker 2 So that's why I'm like, wait, are are the producers just making this whole thing a thing or is it that he's a shitty person i can't we had her on a couple weeks ago post filming and she was less team team jt at that point okay she wasn't like oh he's a horrible person and you know yeah like it wasn't like a complete like 180 but she was yeah seemed less team jt also like At the end of this episode, they kind of give us like, because it was a season finale, like first they,

Speaker 2 according to the show they started dating and i'm like well wait didn't he say he had a girlfriend so like was he dating this girl when he allegedly had a girlfriend whose side are you on taylor or sally's this is

Speaker 2 i love sally because

Speaker 2 i know her personally and so sally and i

Speaker 2 we have mutuals but also she came on for like five minutes on bachelor in paradise and in uh in three minutes on clayton's season of bachelor and in those five minutes that she was on we talked for about two and a half.

Speaker 2 So her and I

Speaker 2 know her real well. Yes, very well.
No, but I really like her and we kind of just keep in contact through socials. So I really like her.
I also, I just feel like girl dramas just, I don't take a side.

Speaker 2 I just like Sally and I know her personally. You think they're just trying to, they're just like, I just, I can, yeah, I just think it's like stupid.
It's like, I mean, it definitely is stupid.

Speaker 2 I think I will say the stuff in the beginning where it was like Sally was really coming after Taylor and Gaston. Yeah.
And it was like, you're in a relationship. Like,

Speaker 2 and Taylor came on here and she kind of explained, like, I was coming back into the season to like mend my relationships with these women because of last season with like the whole Olivia and Austin thing.

Speaker 2 Right. And it was like Sally took that opportunity to get closer to the women by like also piling on to Taylor.

Speaker 2 I imagine it was more like the producer was like, that's a great plan, Taylor. But we're going to bring in Sally.
She's going to start some shit with you.

Speaker 2 And I'm glad that you want want to like men fences, but we're but that's not gonna happen here, babe. Like, we just like not good for the ground, yeah.

Speaker 2 And I can see that now. It's like once you see it, you're like, well, we know why Sally was brought in.
Did you think that Shep

Speaker 2 was gonna pull away from that kiss that they kept teasing all episode towards the end? Um, okay, can we talk about that?

Speaker 2 Really? Because I'm a huge Southern Charm fan. Like, I've watched since day one.
And I,

Speaker 2 yeah, period, by the way.

Speaker 2 Um, so i feel like i like know them in a sense even though i don't know them and i feel like he like wasn't into it well they body language was teasing it it was like not it was showing that he might be like oh just like taken by surprise he like wasn't he was looking away she kind of grabbed him and him in it all every we've seen

Speaker 2 over like seasons and you can tell when he's like really into somebody and so when she went in for like the yes as a guy like if you're not,

Speaker 2 you're not doing your 90, like the hitch 90, you know, like he was kind of back. I agree.

Speaker 2 Well, if anyone, but if grabbed my face,

Speaker 2 my reaction would be like, I. You're saying the man has to be like 90% leaned in.
It's like the hitch 90. If I'm going 10 and

Speaker 2 someone grabs my face to bring me in, I'm. Because

Speaker 2 you say that we have to go 50-50. Well, you are married.

Speaker 2 No, no, in bed.

Speaker 2 When I say, can I have a kiss? And you're like, oh, go for it. That's what I'm being lazy.
That's me being so fucking lazy. Yeah.
Yeah. That's when he's being lazy.

Speaker 2 That's not what he does when he's on dates with other girls.

Speaker 2 When I don't know if a kiss is coming. When he's in bed with his wife across this

Speaker 2 fucking mattress.

Speaker 2 He's like, this does not apply.

Speaker 2 Meet me halfway. I'm like, you said men go 90.

Speaker 2 It does not apply to you. Absolutely.
You are his wife. That's a 20-minute argument before bed.

Speaker 2 Yikes.

Speaker 2 If you want to know what's, what our, um, what do they call it? What? Our pillow talk is. Oh, yeah.
It's me being really angry. It's like, no, fine.
I'll go 85. She's like, oh.

Speaker 2 Did you think that Austin being like, Sally, show us your boobs. Show us your tits.
Having a girlfriend at home.

Speaker 2 I, you know, if I was the girlfriend, I wouldn't be super excited about that.

Speaker 2 Oh, 100%.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I wouldn't be super pumped on it, but I think it was more playful than it was like, I want to see your boobs. Yeah, I don't show me right now.
It definitely was in a playful way. Of course.

Speaker 2 But I do feel like him knowing he's mic'd, him knowing he's being filmed, him with a bunch of other people. No, it's crazy.
Place of me when I flirt, it's playful as fuck. Yeah.

Speaker 2 But like, I'm married now. Yeah.
Was it boobs or tits? It was tits, I think. He said it was like, show us your tits, which is like...
That's Margrass.

Speaker 2 Well, but it's also like

Speaker 2 a saying people say, you know, I like tits. I like tits.
Show us your tits. I think it's like funny, but I have very crude humor.
So maybe other people don't think it's that funny.

Speaker 2 And I don't know if Sally did. And I do not think she.
Well, I think towards the end, she was kind of like, oh, this was a joke. It's not that big of a deal.

Speaker 2 But I mean, I didn't think that that was that bad. I actually did think it was bad because

Speaker 2 he has his girlfriend at home. And like, no, it's not nice to her.
Pookilicious. Yeah, pookielicious.
Pookie Platama some or whatever the fuck they call each other.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's how do we feel finding out that uh Paige asked Craig to buy an engagement?

Speaker 2 Okay, I love Paige. We love Paige.
Love Paige. Obsessed.
We're not here to really take no, I'm taking sides.

Speaker 2 And it is Paige's. Okay.
Okay.

Speaker 2 Yeah. So

Speaker 2 period. I think that people can change their mind and that's free will.
And if she thought, she could change her mind. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And if she thought that, oh, I think I was going to marry this person and in eight months' time, there was things that had happened and it made her feel otherwise.

Speaker 2 I think she's totally able to say, I'm thinking I want to get engaged. This is what I want for an engagement ring.
I don't think that's crazy.

Speaker 2 And then eight months later, you're like, actually, I changed my mind. Hey, let's slow it down a little bit.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I don't see anything wrong with that. But we have empathy for Craig, no? Or is it just like, ew? I mean, no, it's not that I definitely have empathy for him because I'm sure that's really hard.
But

Speaker 2 I don't think that, but I don't, no, but I don't think that it's just overnight.

Speaker 2 Like, there was obviously signs and things that the public doesn't know about with them that like there was indicators that this probably wasn't going to like work out.

Speaker 2 I do see his side and I think two things can be true at once.

Speaker 2 I think he can mean well in both aspects of like wanting to support her to the fullest extent on this tour and also being like, hey, I do want our relationship to still be like priority in your life because like we have been together for three years.

Speaker 2 Like we were going on seeing each other every single week. And now this is like going to put a strain on our relationship.

Speaker 2 So we really have to like make sure we make our relationship a priority so it doesn't break under under all this like added stress and pressure of like you being so busy and us not seeing each other anymore.

Speaker 2 And her taking that as like, you don't support me at all.

Speaker 2 I was like, um well, I feel like maybe he just really wants to make sure his relationship's solid, which I think they're just going in two different directions. Totally two different directions.

Speaker 2 She's thinking like, I have this amazing career ahead of me. And I could see how she would feel like almost pulled down by him being like, well, when are you going to come back to Charleston?

Speaker 2 And when are you going to be like, it's almost like, well, I have these things that i have going for me it's like i do feel like this is a season or when this was filming whatever in their relationship where like it's not normal they have to adapt and like maybe craig has to fly to all these different cities to be with her on tour if he wants to like make because she she can't you know one part i i i was very team craig and not that it's not team pay like

Speaker 2 it was more like when they were talking about her tour and how she seemed to be kind of annoyed with the idea of even having a boyfriend and like having to consider his like emotional needs.

Speaker 2 And he was just kind of like, I mean, listen, I just kind of, you know, like if let's say now he went on tour, you know, and like she had to travel or I thought to go on tour, like I would think that we would go out of our way to be like, you know, going out with some friends or whatever.

Speaker 2 And like Paige didn't want to even have to like let her then boyfriend know kind of like what she was doing, period. And I think that's why they shouldn't be together for sure.

Speaker 2 Like, she just made the right decision. Yeah.
But, like, that's what I'm saying. I just, I wonder if it was based off that.
Like, because when she was saying it, they were still together.

Speaker 2 And when she's saying it, she on summer, are you talking about on Summer House when she was talking to Amanda and she was like, I feel like I'm going to hate maybe Summer House? Yeah.

Speaker 2 Like, there's that, you know.

Speaker 2 I also, can I ask, does anyone know this answer, Sierra, Leia? Like, what timeline are we in? When we watch Summer and Charm and Summer House, are we? Summer House is after.

Speaker 2 They're filming after because, like, we're watching at the same time. So, because it's July when they start Summer House, because they go to the Hamptons in July.
Okay.

Speaker 2 And then before that is when they film, because that's like what, May, like March through May for Southern Charm. And I know, like, Charm obviously started before Southern Charming.

Speaker 2 Southern Charm, but now we're watching these episodes, and like Craig and Paige are in these opposite episodes, and it feels like the same timeline, but it's actually a very different timeline.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's after. So yeah, it just kind of feels like when Paige was saying this, being in a relationship with Craig, I was very much understanding where Craig's coming from.

Speaker 2 Like, can he's not allowed to check in?

Speaker 2 There's the

Speaker 2 Summer House After show,

Speaker 2 Paige shared that, and Amanda shared that, Craig would, like, send her documentaries, like the Abbott documentary. And the whole theme of it was how tour ruins families and ruins lives.

Speaker 2 So it's like pretty like manipulative being like. before you go on tour sorry you're feeling anxious about it but here watch this maybe you shouldn't go essentially yeah i hate that yeah

Speaker 2 great you know she also says i think i loved him so much that i tolerated too much and now that i'm out of it i look back at things and i'm like oh wait anytime she had a personal professional milestone craig would find a way to make it about him it was just embarrassing so that's something that i look back on now and i'm like oh wow i was really very blinded i had to do a lot of damage control i don't

Speaker 2 i wouldn't communicate i don't think that's the best communication but i don't like i don't even assume that it was malicious or manipulative maybe he's just like hey you know like i'm really worried about us like in that moment Craig is thinking, I just bought her an engagement ring.

Speaker 2 I'm going to marry this person. Like, before we got engaged, I was under the impression that we were each other's top priority.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 You know, and if you're by an engagement ring, like, work aside, like, you're still operating as if we are the most important thing. And that's, that was what Craig was doing.

Speaker 2 Clearly, Paige just wasn't feeling that way. Exactly.
She had the right to feel that way too. But

Speaker 2 to like, oh, he sent these videos and then speak on it as if like it's some evil manipulative shit. I don't know if we can assume that.

Speaker 2 But she did also say that she and Craig probably didn't have great communication because she was too straightforward and stern for his liking. It was like, you're harsh.

Speaker 2 So I would kind of have to stay more quiet when he would voice his opinions because he would always take it as like a personal attack. Fair.
And that's why it's hard to

Speaker 2 her opinion, but every time she speaks on Craig, she is speaking as if like he's the problem. And I get from her point of view.
From her perspective, it could be. Yeah.

Speaker 2 You know, and also I think over a period of time, there's going to be like hurt. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I just like, you know, it just always seems like when, when two people speak on these relationships, like, I think there's a difference between like Paige feelings towards Craig and Craig's feelings towards Paige in terms of like conflict in the relationship and like us fans, audience members, like as if someone actually did something wrong or like something they shouldn't do is it's like, well, you know, yeah, I can see why that was frustrated.

Speaker 2 I can see why they fought. I can see why they.
maybe weren't on the same page, but like we all want to make, oh, he sent a video.

Speaker 2 But that is, that is definitely if she's not feeling like supported by him about going on this tour. And then he sends her, like, hey, watch this.
It ruins relationships and families.

Speaker 2 Like, that, to Sierra's point, like, is a little manipulative. I agree.
It's manipulative. But I mean, I guess, but maybe he felt like he's like, oh,

Speaker 2 he's like so sticky up for Craig. He's like, oh, maybe he.

Speaker 2 I mean, I guess as the guy, I do like, I can understand where like he felt like maybe his needs weren't getting met. You know,

Speaker 2 he was trying to communicate things.

Speaker 2 And like, yeah, their relationship was very much like Paige having no problem being like this is how i feel fucking deal with it and craig clearly was like um like i

Speaker 2 it doesn't seem like that was like maybe that's how it is on camera but i don't know it seems like behind closed doors she was having to silence herself yeah she's saying like i was too harsh and if i was too harsh he would like it's like were you silenced or were you silenced yeah but maybe maybe she was like building resentment over a period of time with him you know and kind of sounds like she hates him now Yeah.

Speaker 2 Well, I mean, he, he didn't really stick up for her or anything when there was like cheating accusations. Oh, I'm Team Craig there.
Really?

Speaker 2 It's a good point, Nick has.

Speaker 2 Really? You broke my heart. You're my ex.
You're not my responsibility anymore. Good fucking luck.
Do your best, but like your emotional needs are not my problem anymore. She's made that clear.

Speaker 2 So like

Speaker 2 now she has. Yeah.
But like it's not his job. Like he

Speaker 2 listen, she went about her life. Good for her.

Speaker 2 You're right. She has every right to break up with him.
People break up all the time. They're hurt feelings.
It is what it is. And that's what, and that's kind of my point.

Speaker 2 We're just talking about hurt feelings. And when there's hurt feelings, it doesn't mean someone's the actual bad guy.

Speaker 2 Like, if I have hurt feelings, I might think you're the bad guy, but that doesn't mean you're the bad guy, right? And so, and great. She wanted to operate how she wanted to operate.

Speaker 2 I don't know what's been going on, who she's dating, but like whether there was a crossover or not, like we all know how public perception works, right?

Speaker 2 We have Pedro Poscow going out to dinner with Jennifer Aniston and now all of a sudden there's dating rumors. You know what I'm saying? She knows how this shit works.

Speaker 2 And she was like, hey, you're going to be seeing a lot of me. And she was going out in public to games with another guy shortly after.
She's responsible for her rumors being talked about her.

Speaker 2 And she wants then Craig to step up and say, don't worry, guys. She would never do something.
How does he fucking know? He was blindsided by the breakup. He doesn't know what's going on.

Speaker 2 Anytime we get blindsided by a breakup, what's the first thought? Is there someone else? What's going on? You know, and he's, he's, so he doesn't fucking know.

Speaker 2 and he's supposed to what have her back meanwhile she's going on all these like post shows being like he's sending me manipulative texts and blah blah blah blah blah and throwing him under the bus and he's supposed to what still be like she's my queen don't worry

Speaker 2 Fine

Speaker 2 did you think that Craig should have like immediately talked to Kyle on switching to Summerhouse?

Speaker 2 That whole like awkward conversation at the table where he's like, I'm not going to get into this right now. You haven't watched Summerhouse? No, I didn't watch the newest one

Speaker 2 for the past like three. Oh, my God.
Oh, I love Summerhouse. No, I do too.
Ah, ah. Whatever.
Oh, what? Hey, Leia. Yes.
Hannah talked, I don't know, she did a live or something, Hanna Burner. Yes.

Speaker 2 She talked about like getting fired from Bravo. Like, I don't remember.
Like, why did she get fired? Like, that was before my time. People didn't like Hannah on her seasons.
First of all, she didn't.

Speaker 2 Just like in general. Yeah, like she didn't get along with a lot of the cast.
There was a lot of drama. Her last season was

Speaker 2 a COVID season, so they never got got to really leave the house.

Speaker 2 And she thinks that she was unfairly portrayed, but then it was supposedly that Kyle had an issue with her, and she's claiming that Kyle got her fired. So her truth is Kyle did get her fired.

Speaker 2 He's claiming that that's not true.

Speaker 2 But from what I've heard, she thinks it's because she did a deal with Truli that he got her fired, but he was also fighting with her the last season she was on. So

Speaker 2 it's very possible. I mean, that would be fucking crazy for Kyle to expect that no one in the cast is supposed to like make money off of any other liquor period.

Speaker 2 That would be especially if he's not paying anyone else to like support his brand. That's so wild.

Speaker 2 Well, that's why I kind of like want him to discuss what what he thinks is the lie that's being spread about him because that's what we don't understand either.

Speaker 2 Like if she didn't get fired because of that, then why did she get fired? Right. Because that's what she's going around saying.
Exactly. But he has not given us anything at all.

Speaker 2 Also, yeah, her firing seems different than other Bravo firings. Like, you know, it's like they kind of ask someone else because they're A, like not that good of TV.
They're not that dramatic.

Speaker 2 Or they get put on pause because they get a DUI or something. But like Hannah was messy and dramatic.
That's good TV. How do you get fired for being good TV?

Speaker 2 It's like, how much pull does Kyle really have with production to like Kyle and Amanda are like huge storyline. It feels like with some of these shows, like Southern Charm, it's what's his name?

Speaker 2 Who's the producer? Whitney. Whitney.
And then like, they're always like, and Jack, like, you know, we'll throw it up.

Speaker 2 Despite whatever's going on with Jax and the Valley, like, Jax kind of organized the Valley. Kyle was like the brainchild, I think.
Yes. Behind Summer House.
And it feels like

Speaker 2 every one of these shows has one person who's kind of like

Speaker 2 orchestrating it and has a lot more pull with production and is like the producer pet

Speaker 2 than some of the other cast. Yeah.

Speaker 2 He's probably like kicking his feet being like, I don't want her on here anymore. There's always like one little teacher's pet.
So that makes sense.

Speaker 2 West and Sierra. Um,

Speaker 2 I'm kind of loving their dynamic like this season. I haven't gotten too deep into it.
I need him to hook up one more time. This one.
Why do you like

Speaker 2 Sierra admitted? She was like, I know she called him out about something, and then she's like, God, like, the toxic really wants to be a good idea.

Speaker 2 I need a drunk night, and I need a hookup and a regretful morning.

Speaker 2 And then I went into just like Davi and like be cool. And like, just.
I know, but like, for for her heart, I don't want her to. I know.
Her heart is fine. I know.
I think she really liked him.

Speaker 2 I think she did. I think it's more Bruised Ego.
Really? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 I think at this point it is because of all like the press he did after. And like, that's kind of what she kept bringing up is like, why do you keep talking about me if you don't want to?

Speaker 2 She obviously is.

Speaker 2 has a lot going for her. Yeah, she is.
She has

Speaker 2 some might find her to be the most eloquent, one of the more eligible people out there. Absolutely.
And I think she's told this a lot, as often people are.

Speaker 2 And then you have West, who a lot of people like have, he's funny. And he's, I mean, in person, we've met.
He's a very good looking guy. He's six foot.
He's tall.

Speaker 2 Like he's also, but like, you know, he presents as more like the bra, like just another guy. And everyone tells Sierra that West is beneath her.
And everyone tells West that Sierra's.

Speaker 2 You can't get better. Can't get better.
And then Wes is the one who turned her down. And I just think, you know, you got bruised, you know, and that's a recipe for bruised ego.
Okay. I can see it.

Speaker 2 I mean, I. But I i do think she's better than him

Speaker 2 maybe so and as do i and i think we do i i need the episode of lexi and sierra oh my gosh i have chills right now jesse i need to see it yeah i i want to know what happened because i feel like why would sierra be like encroaching on their thing she should know better what what do you mean oh she should know better like as

Speaker 2 what what yeah why did did I say? That was so wrong. Yeah, I mean, shouldn't she? No, I don't, but like, also, flirting is so subjective.
Like, they've known each other for a long time.

Speaker 2 So, I feel like maybe their dynamic comes off flirty.

Speaker 2 But Lexi's, like, new to the group. I don't think people who are very good flirts, and I don't know Sierra that well, but I'm guessing she's pretty good if she wants to be.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but if she wanted Jesse, couldn't she just have him? She said, I don't think she wants Jesse. There's a difference between wanting Jesse and wanting Jesse to want her or like flirt or Jesse.

Speaker 2 Well, we all flirt.

Speaker 2 Of course, but Jesse is pursuing a relationship in so why is it Sierra's fault yeah why is it Sierra's fault it's Jesse's Jesse's fault of course it's Jesse's fault Jesse is responsible but like does that mean like she can do whatever she wants she's responding to Jesse and I'm she's responding to the energy that Jesse's bringing her if Jesse approached her and was like hey Sierra could be slightly wrong

Speaker 2 but what's the loyalty

Speaker 2 good to see you then she wouldn't be like oh my god like hug me

Speaker 2 because he gives he feeds it to her he does and but she's loyalty isn't to lexi it's clearly you know i'm just i clearly i feel like she knew jesse before so it's not like her and lexi are super close i'm just i'm just couldn't i could be wrong but i am just guessing if the roles were reversed and some new baddie came in right to the house and like last season but i do like lexi when when when west and sierra were going out uh doing it and she started you know if sira was new to the house and like there was someone already there.

Speaker 2 You're like, role reversal. I just think she might feel like, you know,

Speaker 2 upset that, yeah. I see it.
I get it. I get it.
I see everyone. I see Lexi saying, you're not being a girl's girl kind of thing.
Totally. You know, just.
But also, maybe, I don't know.

Speaker 2 What do you have to say, Leia? I don't know for sure, but does anyone think that Sierra might be doing this to make Wes jealous?

Speaker 2 Oh,

Speaker 2 now that is a plot twist. If so, I hate that because it's like it's his friend.
And it's just like. Well, Jesse's going hard, like first.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and Jesse's doing it. So if Wes was really good, jealous, he would get, he would probably say something to Jesse.
And clearly,

Speaker 2 Wes and Jesse are just like cuddle buddies. Like, they're, I don't, no, I don't think so at all.
I would do it.

Speaker 2 That's what I would do.

Speaker 2 That's what I would do if I were Sierra.

Speaker 2 Period. But you, it wouldn't be effective, is what I'm saying.
Nick knows everything. You need to know this by now.

Speaker 2 He is a man, and he has all male perspectives for every male

Speaker 2 ever. Did I not say I don't think?

Speaker 2 The amount of women laughing right now.

Speaker 2 I will absolutely go fuck myself for sure. Justin is one of the girls.
He is.

Speaker 2 I'm wrong, obviously, for sure. No, you're not.

Speaker 2 It's a good perspective.

Speaker 2 Clearly, Jesse and West are like... They're good to go.
Clearly, we're team girls and you're team guys. Yeah.
I'm just awesome. Did I learn anything from this episode?

Speaker 2 wow god forbid i just like point out possibly like a perspective devil's advocate you know just you know the devil doesn't need one oh yeah

Speaker 2 honestly not as to me as nick

Speaker 2 i'll be going 90 tonight

Speaker 2 yeah for sure you will be going 100 you will be going 100 and 10

Speaker 2 100

Speaker 2 did you ever get into any housewives or are you strictly just no summer housewives uh no beverly hills for sure yeah i love this drill

Speaker 2 I started, stopped, but I just like... It's boring.
It is a little boring and it's kind of the same thing over and over again, but I love Kyle Richards. I do too.
Just love her. I do too.

Speaker 2 They could never make me hate her. I know.
Do you, how are you feeling about her and Mo?

Speaker 2 Do you want them to get back together or are you like, I'm kind of just like, I mean, of course, I always want like...

Speaker 2 a love story to work out, but like at this point with everything that's come out and he's like in Aspen with the girls and they're in the bikinis. I'm like,

Speaker 2 I kind of just don't want that. But for their kids, I think it would be great for them to just have like a mom and dad that are together.

Speaker 2 If we're going to keep talking about them, kind of like with Sierra and West, I kind of want to like, I want them to at least hook up.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 She needs to like go over to Mo's place and like

Speaker 2 sexy time and show. Like we need like a

Speaker 2 security camera footage of Kyle like entering into like his apartment. And she's wearing like a trench coat.
And she has like really sexy lingerie. And she just like whips it off.

Speaker 2 And then she's like a dominatrix, and she's like, get on your knees. Oh my God.

Speaker 2 What do you guys think? Yes, I agree. Yeah.
Did you watch Mom Talk? Or Mormon Lives?

Speaker 2 No. She's like, I haven't heard.
What is that? I have not heard it. Secret Lives of Mormon Lives.
I didn't watch it. Oh, you need to.
Okay. It's that.
I've heard mixed reviews. I'm not really into

Speaker 2 Mormon moms.

Speaker 2 No offense. It is.
I think it's a little produced. I think these girls know what they're doing.
I think they know how to get a second season. They want to be famous.
They want to be famous.

Speaker 2 It is Millie Bobby Brown's favorite reality TV show. So I will do anything she does.
So I'll be watching. Okay.

Speaker 2 Because I love her. Okay.

Speaker 2 I think it's really good. Okay.
So you're excited for the second season. Oh, I'm so excited.
Why do you think it's so good? Because

Speaker 2 I think they're professional TV makers. Because he loves drama.
Well, yeah. I I mean, listen, like, Bravo, it's like, you know, it's different than The Bachelor.
You know, it's just the right reasons.

Speaker 2 And like, you know, it's just like on The Bachelor, there is this weird kind of like balance between making a TV show and real humans taking a shot at this crazy experience and like kind of like falling in love, but not knowing if it's real love or it's mad.

Speaker 2 You have no idea. You have no real idea.

Speaker 2 And you're off the grid and it's a social experiment, you know, and like whether it's Bravo, Housewives, Summer House, Southern Charm, these these are people just like making a tv show while also living their lives yeah i do love that and you have to be like you just you you have to be a professional like this is their you know i know like like summer house like we all pretend that like it's their job yeah like we we like to pretend that you know like uh

Speaker 2 well that whether it's kyle or carl you know last season it was always like you don't have a job it's like he's a tv star you know

Speaker 2 he makes a lot of money to go film in the hamptons you know

Speaker 2 like they like to pretend that's not the case but like it's going on and the Mormon wives, like, they're fucking professionals. They show up to fucking work.
They give their all. They are on set.

Speaker 2 They are, they are doing crazy shit that whether you think it's force-produced or not, that they, it is like

Speaker 2 cops sometimes need to be called, you know, like really, like, these women's like. Oh, no, that was before the show.
Either way, but I was just their action. I also heard that next season.

Speaker 2 I heard that they're, it's so intense that, like,

Speaker 2 think about it. It's very costly for production crews to come, set up, be there without it being filmed.

Speaker 2 And I heard that it's so intense and so messy that they had to like stop down production for periods of time to let some of these women kind of like reset, protect their mental health because it was so fucking crazy and intense at times.

Speaker 2 And for it being a second season. and production to be willing to like

Speaker 2 cater to those needs means they're clearly getting excellent content. I agree.
I mean, fuck, I'll watch it. Jesus.
Just saying. Did you see that

Speaker 2 mom talks going on Vanderpump Villa and Stasi Schroeder teas that shit goes down when they come to the villa? Yeah, is that going to convince you to watch Vanderpump Villa? Probably not. No.

Speaker 2 You're not going to watch the Mom Talk episode with Stasi? Why?

Speaker 2 That may be.

Speaker 2 Oh, I will be.

Speaker 2 I'm not Team Lisa Vanderpump right now. I don't want to get into it.
I feel like that's a whole other fucking ball of wax. Ball of wax.
It is very waxy. Feels like it.

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Speaker 2 I have a new internet

Speaker 2 obsession. Did you like ASMR at all? No.
I mean, not

Speaker 2 for me. I hate it.
But I can understand why people like it. There's this like creator online.

Speaker 2 I don't know if like over the weekend, it just like, I saw it and I was like, oh, this is kind of like, I know I watched it like 10 times and I'm like, why am I watching it?

Speaker 2 I'm kind of weirdly like, you're obsessed. You don't know why you're obsessed.
This right here. Watch.
Listen to this. Oh, no.
This is a shirtless man.

Speaker 2 This man's life is absurd.

Speaker 2 Those are really bad. Why did he squeak for push-ups?

Speaker 2 What's on his nose? It's 4.40 a.m. He's journaling.
This is like your morning. Oh, no.
This is my morning. Is he put his face in sparkling water.

Speaker 2 I love him. Yeah, he puts on his jewelry.
Is he wearing a van cleef? He needs his Rolex to tell the time when he's running. And it's Van Cleef.
Oh my gosh. This is more than I do in a year.

Speaker 2 He's done more in two hours

Speaker 2 than I've done in a week.

Speaker 2 Is that a Zamboni?

Speaker 2 Wow. We're only at 8.20 a.m.

Speaker 2 He got up at 3. Watch, this is my favorite part.
Did he just rub a banana peel in? Wiping a banana peel in your face.

Speaker 2 How how many more so looking at it bro we gotta go ahead and get in at least 10 periods what is he even talking about i love it's like a little insight into his work life

Speaker 2 he's got a chef

Speaker 2 apparently he's he must be sponsored by that water who is this guy play that play the track mary play the uh track video that's how i discovered him who is this guy well i don't know he he's been all over the internet it felt like he had a butler yeah I feel like that was his girlfriend that he does not share on social media.

Speaker 2 Oh, and he's like,

Speaker 2 nails to hand me this bowl, this plate,

Speaker 2 but we do not need your face. So we absolutely will not be posting.
His name's Ashton. Ashton? Well, at least give him cred, you know.
I would say Ashton is probably 5'11. Internet says he's 5'7.

Speaker 2 What? Really? Like, they like people that know him, or they're just like guessing. Well, he was walking next to his G-Wagon.

Speaker 2 And a G-Wagon's 5'7

Speaker 2 feet tall and he with shoes on. No.

Speaker 2 There's no way.

Speaker 2 No, a G-Wagon's taller than 5'7.

Speaker 2 I don't. Let's see here.

Speaker 2 5'7?

Speaker 2 You're taller than a G-Wagon? There's no way. A G-Wagon's got to be sitting at 6'6-foot flat.

Speaker 2 But now all these videos of various guys like him who have all these like, and there was this other one I found.

Speaker 2 And the guy looks like Christian McCaffrey so much that Christian McCaffrey responded to the DM. What did he say?

Speaker 2 He's like something I would never, like, he's, oh, he's like, I don't wear board shorts because the guy was wearing board shorts, but he lives in this tiny house and he also drives a Ferrari.

Speaker 2 Like, all these guys live in a, like, if you live in an apartment. Like, why are you driving a Ferrari car? Why are you driving a $200,000 car? Let's invest in a home.
Can't see it, man.

Speaker 2 Maybe it's a rental.

Speaker 2 This one, this is how I discovered this man.

Speaker 2 Oh.

Speaker 2 Lemon water.

Speaker 2 Now it's lemons. Literally dressing up.

Speaker 2 Guys, like, what is the

Speaker 2 thing for running? Oh, I thought that was like a heart monitor.

Speaker 2 No socks. No socks? No socks is nuts.
I do want

Speaker 2 that bag. We love the go-yard.
This next membership needs to be found.

Speaker 2 He has a friend posting.

Speaker 2 What kind of car is this? Yeah, it's not showing any logos. Wow.

Speaker 2 Rolls-Royce? A Rolls-Royce. That's his camera crew.
Now he's getting ready to work out. What does he do? He's just running sprints.
Apparently fashion of the car.

Speaker 2 He's definitely sponsored by that water. Oh, he's meeting meeting his fans.

Speaker 2 I mean, the man is a

Speaker 2 man.

Speaker 2 That body. Yeah.
Well, anyways, I'm obsessed. But also him being 5'7 ⁇ ,

Speaker 2 there's no fucking thing. You never know what to believe on the business.
He does lifestyle coaching. Oh.
He does lifestyle coaching? That's kind of on point for him, I guess. Yeah,

Speaker 2 that tracks. Yeah, that tracks.

Speaker 2 That was the... That is a lifestyle.
And that plan is a lifestyle. It's like he was telling

Speaker 2 the younger kids who came up to him, like, man, just like, believe in your dreams. Like, that was his like, yeah.
We got to get 10,000 more.

Speaker 2 It's like, did you hear on Bachelor when Grant was like, my dad gave me some really good advice? He told me to follow my heart.

Speaker 2 You're like,

Speaker 2 oh, that's what he gave you? Period. Okay.
And he said, and that's what I'm going to do.

Speaker 2 Oh.

Speaker 2 Thank God your dad told you that. Well, thank God you're going with your heart.
Like, my dad gave me really good advice. Go with my heart.
Or his friend might have said, trust your gut.

Speaker 2 And And it's like, which one? Yeah, we could get into that, but I don't think you should trust your gut. You don't know.
No, really.

Speaker 2 You think your gut lies to you? I do. I think your gut is a survival thing.
So when you've grown up in trauma, sometimes your gut isn't accurate.

Speaker 2 I would disagree. Your gut is like reacts.
I mean, it's actually a good thing. I talked to my therapist about it.
It's actually like, yeah, it's actually like studied.

Speaker 2 But I think you can have intuition where you're like, I don't think this situation is right for me. But sometimes our gut isn't always telling us.
I think your body knows.

Speaker 2 And I think we are so good at lying to ourselves and not listening to our body or our gut and like and that's the thing that you're calling your gut is the thing it's the voice that says there's that part of you says something's going on and then you're like no that's crazy i don't want to be neurotic i'm nervous you know like i want to maybe you know but that one that there's always something that says i don't know i don't know

Speaker 2 I think both of you are like when you find out to be when you find out when you're blind whatever it is you're you get some news and you're

Speaker 2 you know like you never you're are you totally fucking always just being like totally 100 blindsided or you're a part of you that says you know that that that one part that that that felt a little off and i just kind of ignored it because i didn't want to seem crazy and i don't want to like i didn't want to be the neurotic person i don't want to like oh you know maybe i think other people are blindsided

Speaker 2 maybe

Speaker 2 also maybe not

Speaker 2 agree to disagree

Speaker 2 period period what else do we we have, guys? It looks like Meredith Marks is going to be performing a DJ set at Outloud Music Festival. She's DJing now? I guess so.
Who's Meredith Marks?

Speaker 2 Salt Lake City. You don't know what Salt Lake?

Speaker 2 My God. If you're going to watch any.
Let's kill her.

Speaker 2 If you're going to watch Housewives, you have to do Salt Lake City. Really? It's the best.
Okay. Yeah.
Way better than Beverly Hills. Especially, well, this season.
Okay. At Beverly Hills.

Speaker 2 But she's... Wow.
She's DJing now. Oh, she's a DJ.
She turned in the bath bombs for DJ for DJ equipment. She's like, you know what? Fuck this.
You think she's talked to Kyle at all about it? Kyle.

Speaker 2 Kyle could.

Speaker 2 Oh, speaking of it. I thought you meant Richards.
Because he is also a DJ.

Speaker 2 And thank God he is.

Speaker 2 If I was just like, hey. I don't think I could support it.
You don't think so? No. I couldn't support you.
I wouldn't support you. Yeah.
I think I would.

Speaker 2 What did Lindsey Hubbard say last season when Carl was like,

Speaker 2 I think I want to do a soft, a bar, a non-alcoholic bar. Yeah, I'm going to have to shut that one down.

Speaker 2 Or something like that.

Speaker 2 It's like, you mean, like, that's just crazy. What are your restaurants? What are you going to do with your three least favorite jobs for me? Like, this all goes as shit.
Least favorite?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I want to pivot. I'm like, you know what? Podcasting, I've done it.
I'm over it. It's like,

Speaker 2 I don't know anymore. I want to blank.

Speaker 2 I think DJ is definitely up there. I think DJ is number one.
What? Jump on the list.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Oh, sorry, Justin. I mean, Justin's like, no,

Speaker 2 DJ is definitely up there. I think if you were like a lifestyle coach,

Speaker 2 I would struggle. I honestly could see you doing it.
You would be a great mentor, though.

Speaker 2 I don't even think it's bad. I think the difference between.

Speaker 2 I think, no, I think it's more so like if you were like, I want to pursue singing, I would. Yeah, he's like,

Speaker 2 I want to be a country music star. I'd be like,

Speaker 2 okay.

Speaker 2 If I'm going to give advice for a living outside of an As Nick episode on a podcast, I'm going to go to school and become a therapist.

Speaker 2 I think that would be cool. I'm not going to call myself a lifestyle coach.
And start selling like CD products and products

Speaker 2 and videos of my day with ASMR. Could you imagine? I could see it, honestly.
I would giggle. Do you deep down hate me? No.

Speaker 2 No, I love you. But I could kind of see it.
Couldn't you see him doing that? No, God, no. God no.
Because I wouldn't be motivational. I'd be like, that's.
No, his ego wouldn't allow him.

Speaker 2 But if, again, if all of this went away and he had to find something, he had to find something.

Speaker 2 I think you would go back to school and you'd become a therapist. Yeah, yeah.
But I'm asking that. That's the actual thing you would do.

Speaker 2 And I think I would struggle if you were like, I want to be a DJ. I think I'm going to be a singer and a background dancer.

Speaker 2 I can't sing, but I can't dance. What if? Oh, no.
I don't. Like a hip-hop dancer.

Speaker 2 What if I

Speaker 2 goes to him at PlayStation LA?

Speaker 2 9 p.m. He's like, hey, I got to get damaged.
I call up Clayton Eckhart. I'm like, hey, can I join? Oh, no.
Yeah, I could not. If you start posting videos like that,

Speaker 2 he's getting really good. He is getting good.
I, you know, you know, he went through a lot of trauma. At this point, I thought we were done.
Hang up the ballet shoes.

Speaker 2 You got to find your thing. They're not ballet shoes or Jordans.
Yeah. He's hip-hopping.
Yes, of course. Listen, I was, I made, this is love because early in our dating time period,

Speaker 2 I made Natalie film me roller skating oh and i looked back and i was like the for what instagram for content and i was like hey i need to post this video

Speaker 2 immediately wouldn't it post me but i had to record him spinning

Speaker 2 i look back and i was like whoa this is there i didn't even know what icks were at this point like i didn't it wasn't like a internet thing and i looked back and and that was like the sex is that good that i was like i can look past it it wasn't that that was a different friend um a different friend

Speaker 2 multiple times.

Speaker 2 That's what I made Natalie do. There are things that men should not do.
Roller skating is one of them. That's not for you.
That's for the girls. Yeah, but I'm going to do it with my daughter.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Look at it. I recorded that, Victoria.
We went roller skating for our Christmas. What? What disgusting? I'm crying behind the camera.
And I'm questioning. I just want to know why you're so good at it.

Speaker 2 Because I've been roller skating since I was like three.

Speaker 2 So they just put you in roller skate lessons? And he would be like, I need you to like walk around me. Like he was directing me.
It's a big fat ick.

Speaker 2 Yeah. And thank God nowadays, if he's like, well, yeah, I'm like, I can't.
When I put on roller skates, I feel fucking free. I just, I love it.

Speaker 2 I love rolling around and dancing on wheels. I know it's disgusting.
No, no, no. Honestly, you're kind of you're, you're, yeah, you're touching my heart a little bit over there.
And you know what?

Speaker 2 I did. I went to the

Speaker 2 YouTube Creator Summit. Okay.
And as a, as a, I'm sorry, baby.

Speaker 2 And I am so sorry, baby.

Speaker 2 as like a group activity for like bonding, they went roller skating. So I went roller skating.
And you're like, and I did show off my skills. I was the first one there.
And I was the last to leave.

Speaker 2 No, I don't give, like, I, I, I don't give a fuck. Like, when, uh, the one time before I met Natalie, uh, I have a friend of, dear friends of mine are friends with Emma Stone, name drops.

Speaker 2 And she, she hosted a fundraiser. that also included roller skating.
So I was, through friends, invited to such a moment. They were like, who would want to do this? They're like,

Speaker 2 and I was I was literally just by myself dancing on the skating rink and everyone's like what is that Nick Spanish like what the fuck is going on wait it's one of those things it's one of those moments where like Nick thinks he's so cool and he's like killing it everyone's like wait but why stone out of my mind and then I had a friend I had a my friend who's also there friends with my friends that got invited

Speaker 2 She was there with her boyfriend and the, I believe the Hames sisters were there. It was the stars, you know, and

Speaker 2 we were in this like VIP group. It's Hollywood.

Speaker 2 Don't you forget it. And we were in this VIP group

Speaker 2 because of just through friends. I was just, I was just a tag along.
And

Speaker 2 my, our friend, mutual friend, her boyfriend was there. And she was breaking up with her boyfriend at this event.
They got in a fight.

Speaker 2 And I went to my friend and I sat down next to her and like pat her on the back. Also, Brie Larson was there.
Captain Marvel, Oscar, Oscar Award-winning actor.

Speaker 2 Terrible names. names, but came out.
I came over to consult my friend, and I believe, like, and Brie Larson and the Ham sisters, like, thought that was my girlfriend.

Speaker 2 And they thought, and then, because, like, so, and then I wanted to go back roller skating. And so, I like patted my friend on the back and went and just started skating again.

Speaker 2 And, like, Brie Larson thought I had broken up with my girlfriend and just said, and patted her, like, on the shoulder. He's like, I gotta get my house there.

Speaker 2 She thought she was witnessing me being an absolute monster. Wow.
So, she hated you. Well, she was like,

Speaker 2 I know she asked our friends, they're like, Is that I like dating? And then my friends were like, No, that's not what you're doing. Yeah, okay, good.

Speaker 2 And he's like, Hey, I got to get out back out there, but uh, good luck out there. The old skates are getting uh dry, anyways.

Speaker 2 Back to the I, when I went roller skating a couple months ago, uh, I thought to myself, you know what? I get to do this with my daughter in a couple years. Aw, she will.

Speaker 2 And that is a full circle moment, and now I like you again. Thank you.
And I don't think you're a creep.

Speaker 2 What a whirlwind roller coaster you fight for.

Speaker 2 Thank you for fighting for us after that. I did, I did fight

Speaker 2 after that. And I did.

Speaker 2 I think it was one of those things where it's like, you just kind of block it out, you know? Yeah, it was like trauma. It was trauma.
And I lived through it and then I blocked it out.

Speaker 2 And I said, I will never think about that again. Ever.
Ever. And I didn't.
And she and then you made me shave your hair.

Speaker 2 And then you made, and then you made me shave your head to do that bit on Instagram, the talking with you during COVID.

Speaker 2 And I like loved your hair so much. And you were like, I think I want to shave it.
And I was like, yeah, great idea. You told me it was hot.
You told me it was hot.

Speaker 2 In fact, I remember specifically if we wanted to get real TMI, you looking up at me and going, that's, your hair looks so hot. That's scraped.

Speaker 2 Your lack of hair looks so hot.

Speaker 2 I buzzed it. She's like, your bald head is so good.
Just have a bald spot.

Speaker 2 I hate that.

Speaker 2 I was rocking back and forth.

Speaker 2 She was like, I think you need to go to Turkey. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And we will be going to Turkey after this. Did people think in that episode what you thought, Sierra, whenever we were talking about that? I don't know.
I didn't check the comments.

Speaker 2 I haven't been back to that video. I've scrubbed that from my mind.
Thank you. I didn't realize, but when we were talking to Ari Shafara about

Speaker 2 sex. Oh, anal virginity.
Anal sex.

Speaker 2 And I said, and I said, I thought you lost your anal virginity to me. Sierra thought I was pegging you.

Speaker 2 Anal virginity. My god

Speaker 2 came out. And I was like, oh my God, No.
People think you're real kinky. Wow.
Wow.

Speaker 2 Didn't you lose that?

Speaker 2 I wish Mary thought that as well. And he was just like so uncomfortable that he just said.
That's why he said we were his favorite married couple. That makes sense.
Wowie, wow. Wow.

Speaker 2 Woo. Woo.
And here we are.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Well,

Speaker 2 that is that.

Speaker 2 Well, I don't know. Still not as crazy as the white lotus, which you haven't.
We'll talk about it. Please don't.
Yes. Please don't really.

Speaker 2 I'm going on a date. Tonight?

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 2 Can we talk about your love life since you brought it up? Sure. Great.
Love. Thank you.
He was just waiting. I wasn't.
I was just, I wanted to respect your. All right, here we go.

Speaker 2 We got a lot of questions for you.

Speaker 2 Well, how is your heart?

Speaker 2 The typical Nick question. How's your heart?

Speaker 2 I hate this evil grin.

Speaker 2 I literally have left the building. He has walked.
He has turned his body now going deeper as Nick. So we're gonna get 10,000.
Yeah, you turned your fucking body.

Speaker 2 I know what's going on here.

Speaker 2 My heart is good. I'm going on a date this weekend.

Speaker 2 Do we, like, are we like dating apps these days or are we like staying off? It's

Speaker 2 not friends only who are like coordinating this. I don't do how do you? Yeah, how do you meet people? You know what's so funny is everyone's like, oh, the dating scene sucks.
And I just,

Speaker 2 I will say I get pretty lucky. Yeah, so I'm going on a date on

Speaker 2 next weekend.

Speaker 2 Is he older, younger, same age? I hope he. Please tell me he's in his 40s.
He is not.

Speaker 2 But I'm

Speaker 2 no.

Speaker 2 Is he your age? No. Is he younger? Younger.
She's for the, she's like younger these days. I'm kind of into

Speaker 2 it lately.

Speaker 2 Jennifer, actually. Call me Jennifer Cool.

Speaker 2 Yeah, so he's younger and

Speaker 2 like super athletic. He may dabble in the athletics department.

Speaker 2 He may or may not be in the athletics department.

Speaker 2 Wait, so how are you meeting people these days? It's mutual friends being like,

Speaker 2 buddy. Yeah, it's so weird.
It's like I've gotten so lucky with that. I've never had to get on a date.
This is the first date.

Speaker 2 It is.

Speaker 2 How much have we talked with the date? Are we hubblind? Are we going in? Are we

Speaker 2 texting? We're semi-acquainted. He called me the other day and we talked for an hour and 17 minutes.

Speaker 2 And I wasn't even annoyed.

Speaker 2 Did he, did he, did he like, hey, I'd love to call you or did he just randomly call you and just thought maybe she'll pick up because like that's considered psycho behavior in 2025. It's true.

Speaker 2 No, he texted me and he had a two and a half hour drive from somewhere to somewhere. Somewhere to somewhere and he was like, I would love if you could keep me some company hot.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 And I was like, you're like, I.

Speaker 2 And I canceled all of my plans. I was like, I'll allow it.

Speaker 2 And then I'm like, oh, God, what do I do?

Speaker 2 Like so awkward. Like, I got to take a shower.
And did the conversation flow or was it a little awkward? Did you like play ISPY as you drove? He was like, I see Alabama license plate.

Speaker 2 No, we did not play ISPY. Thank you.

Speaker 2 But we, no, it wasn't awkward. At first, I think he felt like a little awkward, but he was really sweet.
He like, I was staying in over the weekend and I didn't go out.

Speaker 2 And he was like, am I on speakerphone? And I was like, because he knows Buxton and Cash, my two dogs.

Speaker 2 And he was like, all right, Buxton and Cash, like, thank you for letting me steal your mom for a little bit. It was really sweet.

Speaker 2 He knows the way to my heart.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Okay, cute. Yeah.
What are you going to wear? Haven't figured it out yet. We're going to

Speaker 2 full dinner. So it's dinner one night and then the next day we're doing a whole activity together all day.
We're going to the Miami Open.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 I feel like you've been going to a lot of tennis events recently. Have I? I don't know.
Weren't you in

Speaker 2 the New York one? oh yeah the u.s open yes

Speaker 2 the new york open

Speaker 2 the miami open

Speaker 2 yeah

Speaker 2 do you know how to score in tennis what do you mean do you know how to do you know how they keep score in tennis when you hit it out of the bounds yeah what's zero zero

Speaker 2 wait what love serving love yeah yeah okay are you trying to trick me i'm just asking if you know because i do seems like you might need to know

Speaker 2 yeah i mean i think i i i know nothing about tennis at is that is the most confusing score.

Speaker 2 What's one score?

Speaker 2 10 points. It's 10 points and it goes up to 40.
Oh, it's 15. Oh, my God.
Oh, 15. And then it goes.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and then it goes up to 40. And then if you're tied, then you're going to be.
Why couldn't we just do one point? Let's do it. Yeah.
What's a birdie? It makes no sense. What? A birdie.
A birdie?

Speaker 2 Oh, that's actually golf. Oh, got it.
Different sport.

Speaker 2 She's like, yes, of course.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 2 The hawk.

Speaker 2 And how optimistic are we about said date? Here's the thing.

Speaker 2 I think people are very interested in people's love lives when they get off the show and they get very wrapped up and they're like, oh my God, like she's

Speaker 2 dating somebody else now.

Speaker 2 We're very appreciative of you because we're so invested in you. It's the, it's the gift that keeps giving.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 But I think it's just funny because like I can go on a date and it just be a date. It doesn't have to be like, oh, we're getting married or I can date people and it not work out.

Speaker 2 And it doesn't mean that there's anything wrong with me or anything wrong with him. Absolutely.

Speaker 2 I just wanted to put that out there because I know people get very invested in this and they're like, wow. And I get it.
Like, trust me, I want it to work out too. We go in with a level of like, yeah,

Speaker 2 or it's real promising stuff. Yeah.
He thanked my dogs. Yes, he thanked my dogs.
And now we are engaged. Yes.

Speaker 2 So we will be getting married. Yes, of course.
But no,

Speaker 2 he's a really good guy. And I'm excited to get a lot of things.
And when he's on tour, are you sending him videos of ways to make your potential relationship work?

Speaker 2 No, because she's going on tour as well. Yes, and I will be on the world tour with him on the tour bus.

Speaker 2 There is no tour bus. When do we get to meet him? There is a plane.
So there is a plane. A tour plane.
A tour jet.

Speaker 2 When do we get to meet him? Yeah. So if it all goes well, do you think initiation?

Speaker 2 Let me ask you this.

Speaker 2 Based on how you feel where things stand now, not to put

Speaker 2 what are our chances that we actually meet this guy?

Speaker 2 I would say 50-50. Okay.
At the moment,

Speaker 2 pretty good odds. Pretty good.
50-50 is pretty good. It's good.
Like, would he want to double-date with us, maybe? Yeah, for sure. He would.
Definitely. He's

Speaker 2 yeah, I met him through a mutual friend, and her husband is in the same

Speaker 2 field, field, profession, if you will. Career.
And career path. Yes, of course.
And so she, it's so funny. They like were hanging out and he was playing with her baby.

Speaker 2 And she was like, immediately, for some reason, she like thought about me. And she was like, she messaged him after he left her house.
And she's like, you're a really great guy.

Speaker 2 I love the way that you like hung out with my daughter and you were so good with her. And I have like a friend that I really, really want you to meet.
I think you would really like her.

Speaker 2 And this was before she even told me. And he was like, yeah, I'd love to.

Speaker 2 They talked about me. And then she ended up telling me afterwards.
And she was like, I had a really great conversation with blank. And

Speaker 2 I think you guys would be really great for each other. And I think you guys should hang out.

Speaker 2 And it was really sweet that she like immediately thought about me, you know, all because he was like really good with her daughter. Well, we should send him videos of you playing with River.
River.

Speaker 2 She's also really good.

Speaker 2 You're curious.

Speaker 2 She's going to be a great mom one day, if you're wondering. Just send him, just in case you're wondering.
No, it's like no context. No context.
It's like me and River. And I'm like, he's like, answer.

Speaker 2 Whose kid is this? I'm like, do you have a kid? Well,

Speaker 2 I'm very excited for you. There's nobody I'm rooting for more in

Speaker 2 love life than you. I feel like you deserve more than you could actually want for yourself.
You deserve more than that.

Speaker 2 And I'm excited to meet this person and vet them and give them the whole like, if you bring yeah yeah yeah yeah i want to do that oh you guys are sweet and then we'll see tomorrow yeah and then don't for sure yeah no people are gonna be like i'm tuning back in with victoria don't like don't no i i'll be here

Speaker 2 like tied behind my back and my hands are like

Speaker 2 All right. Well, I think that'll wrap it up today for this episode.
Thank you for listening. Don't forget, tomorrow's episode with Victoria will also be a reality recap.

Speaker 2 We'll talk a little sevenths, a little right white lotus. We'll try to see if we can get screeners for Housewives, Beverly Hills.
Either way, it's going to be a fun, wacky episode.

Speaker 2 And then also, Natalie from Temptation Island will be zooming in. And then on Thursday, which may or may not be related to that guest,

Speaker 2 I'm very excited, very happy for what you guys are going to witness in here or watch. Probably,

Speaker 2 you're going to want to watch and listen. All the above.
All of the above. That is Thursday.
A special episode of Going Deeper. Deeper.
Tell all your friends.

Speaker 2 Really can't wait for you to be the next bachelorette. I'm putting it out there in the universe.
I really, I think it's... Well, if this

Speaker 2 relationship.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah, there's that. Well, I mean, listen, you got to live your life.
I do. I mean, it's on pause.
We didn't even, like, I mean, right now it's just a fantasy.

Speaker 2 But if for some, if he stops loving kids and he starts hating your dogs

Speaker 2 and then, like, he just... Let's beat it on as like starts sucking at his job.
Yeah. Well, then we might have to renegotiate.
So we don't have to. Yeah, right.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 If it comes back on the fold, I know that they're going to want to revamp and they're going to have to, they're going to want to put a polish on that pig because God knows it needs some polishing.

Speaker 2 Work.

Speaker 2 I think they would do themselves a great service by hiring you as the next batch. I think it'd be awesome.
I just think it would be so fucking good. Thank you, Nick.

Speaker 2 You can't help but be excellent television. I said that with love.

Speaker 2 He's like the biggest advocate for this.

Speaker 2 He hasn't shut up about it. I will say, I talked to some people who I think are important in this decision-making process and I was just like pitching you hard and they were they're

Speaker 2 they they they were listening. They were listening and they were listening.
And I just think it will be awesome. Like they need to do something.

Speaker 2 And I don't think they I don't think they just bring in some rando like celebrity. Just no one, you know, it's like there's something about this fan base.
We need to, it's been successful before.

Speaker 2 It can be successful again. It's all about the strength of the lead.
I agree. And as the unofficial bachelor fan of this podcast, I agree that that would be incredible TV.

Speaker 2 Thank you. Excuse you, what? I am, but also, I'm a different human now.
So it would be an even more iconic. She's still inside.
So she's there. She's there.
Deep, deep down.

Speaker 2 All right. See you tomorrow.

Speaker 2 Bye. Thanks for listening.
Bye.

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