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And later, Ari Shafir, a very hilarious comedian who has a new Netflix special out, will join us as well. Nick's developed a new habit.
I've developed a new habit? Uh-oh. What? Good habit? Bad habit? Probably not great.
A diabolical habit. We hate it.
Yeah. Okay, what is it? Do I know what this is? Do I know what you're going to say?

It's pretty crazy.

Say it.

He leaves chewed up wads of gum on random surfaces throughout our home.

Oh, no.

I've left.

Several.

I've left.

Wait, why is this a newly developed habit?

Yeah, at 44 years old.

I remember seeing this.

He just now started not throwing his gum in the trash can.

I feel like this was a bit in Parent not throwing his gum in the trash can.

I feel like this was like a bit on like

Parent Trap

or like an old movie

where it was like

she would like

take her gum out

and like put it

on her like headboard

and I used to do that

when I was like 10

thinking it was so cool.

Oh.

I know.

I know.

But you're not 10.

Why is this happening?

I don't know why.

But it's in awful places.

What do you mean?

Well. You've got bad dad here.
This bad dad here this is we all make mistakes i'm he puts river down for a nap uh-huh and rushes out of the room for some reason don't call don't know a call business a business as usual who knows what's happening and so i what the fuck does that mean well you know you're putting your daughter to batting her oh he's smacked she's like waking up her eye like shut up so i'm like oh sorry sorry sweet pretty little baby um and then i took the gum out and put on this little nightstand so i checked the monitor and she's like not asleep she's kind of just awake chilling and i'm like okay well i'll let her work it out you she's not crying. She's just kind of hanging out in there and she loves her crib.
So I would check back in every couple of minutes and she's laying down. She's sitting up.
She's standing up. She's laying down.
She's. And then I'm like, what am I doing? Like, I might as well just go in there, you know, and like rock her and try to get her back to sleep.
And thank God I do. She's got that gum all wrapped around her hands no i mean just like stretching it playing with it i was like oh my god is she ready for slime like three weeks before that i caught her um i want to say it was natalie's gum but who knows who knows what who knows now i leave gum i just want you know just in case the parent shamers pop out i you.
I just want to make sure we both go down in flames. For sure.
Thank you for protecting me. But our daughter is so smart because I caught her chewing gum.
She was just... Oh, so she knew not to swallow it.
Totally. I was a little freaked out.
Like, oh my God. And she was just chomping away.
Like, good but even like shug our babysitter she was like um so i found like several uh pieces of chewed up gum like in random places i was like yeah no i know that isn't it i will work on you ask her to guess she was like i like there's one on her changing table. And I feel like that the diaper trash cans, right?

It's the most accessible trash can in the house, truly.

I mean, it's just, it's right there.

It's easy to throw away.

Are you going back for these pieces of gum?

Oh my God, no.

And what may or may not be related news.

Natalie told me 17 times yesterday about this new article.

Oh, I think I know what you're talking about. Natalie told me 17 times yesterday about this new article.

Oh.

Okay.

Oh, I think I know what you're talking about.

Fuck you.

I just wanted to know if you go back for these chewed up pieces of gum or are they part of the house?

Like when you put it down, are you coming back? I'll be honest.

I have no recollection.

Just swallow it.

What do they say when you're on the stand?

I do not recall.

I do not recall.

And I plead the fifth.

There are a lot of questions. election.
Just swallow it. What do they say when you're on the stand?

I do not recall.

I do not recall.

That reminds me of that Justin Bieber deposition where he's sitting and he's

in some lawyer's office. It's not a courtroom,

but they're showing him some videos and he's just

the whole time. He's like, I don't recall.

I do not recall.

I do have a confession, though. When I'm done

with my gum and I don't know where to put it,

I'll give it to Danny to swallow for me.

To swallow?

Yeah.

I'm hearing so many.

You also gave Danny Louie's umbilical cord to give to the dog to eat.

So you need to stop giving Danny things to dispose of.

You are not wrong there.

I had forgotten about that, Natalie. Did you know that, Nick? nick what leah she was at the house with louis and she was she was at our house with louis and she was talking about like oh my gosh how funny is this like whenever louis umbilical cord fell off you know it falls off like a week after you get home yeah um danny fed it to the dog and i was like what on purpose Yeah It's a tradition in the family apparently I was like that was the way he was connected to you And by tradition you mean like a Jewish tradition? No no no His family Every time they had an umbilical cord fall off They would feed it to their dogs You guys this is making me nauseous And like for me I was like I have that saved What saved somewhere.
Is there a seance? Well, for me, I was like, oh my God, that was the way that they were connected to us. You didn't save that? And she was like, oh my God, I didn't save it.
I had an existential crisis right there on your outdoor couch. I was like, fuck, why didn't I save that? You're like, now I'm mad at Danny.

Yeah, why don't you just feed all your first photos of all these moments to your dog, too?

Like maybe a whole photo album?

Any other special moments with your child you want to feed your dog?

Well, marijuana users are now six times more likely to have a heart attack. Do you want to rethink your choices? Well, here's the thing.
Six times higher than what? Than before. Well, maybe it was zero before.
And six times zero is still zero. Has Natalie told you the facts yet of this? No, I'm just saying.
Please, Justin. Please, Nick.
Listen. Well, so basically, a new study of 4.6 million people found that cannabis users were more likely to experience heart failure, strokes, and cardiac arrest.
Is this smoking weed or gummies or do we know? Well, so young marijuana users are six times more likely to have a heart attack than those who abstain from the drug, according to a new study that analyzed data from 4.6 million people. The study followed adults younger than 50 who didn't have any comorbidities from 2010 to 2018, according to research.
Specifically, cannabis users were six times more likely to have a heart attack four times more likely to have an incisemic stroke i might be wrong with the pronunciations to next point more likely than than than what than the average person who's not smoking weed another marijuana user over here across the room yeah i'm fine and i have no i'm just saying six times zero is still zero. Why are you timesing it by zero? Well, because I don't know six times more than what? There are a lot of users.
Literally, like six times. If there's a 1% chance that I have a heart attack because of, you know, and then if it's six times more likely, that's still, you know.
I'm just saying this is the medication that we're giving to like cancer patients, glaucoma,

you know. It does specify.

It says, cannabis use appears to pose a substantial

and independent risk for those outcomes

even in a population without traditional

cardiovascular risk factors. So that's what it is

for people that aren't already like

at risk of like a heart attack. Gotcha.

So it makes you at risk.

I'm short of breath.

Oh my god. Do you smell burnt toast? I think that's brain cancer.
That's a heart attack? That's your arm hurting. I think your arm hurting.
It's a heart attack. Okay.
I think I'm okay. Smelling burnt toast is a stroke.
Okay. I think I'm good.
In other news, Ryan Reynolds requests that he be dropped from Justin Baldoni's lawsuit Ryan Reynolds is asking a judge to drop him as a defendant From Justin Baldoni's $400 million lawsuit Claiming Justin Baldoni's argument against him Has no legal bounds and amounts to Hurt feelings Which all the Justin Baldoni Stans are up in arms But makes sense to me I don't know why Is he he is he just being sued because he's married to blake there's all this speculation about like the deadpool or nice pool whatever in his movie i don't i don't think that's illegal so can you just sue anyone who's just like mean to you i think anyone can sue anyone for anything but when it gets goes to the court and things like that i think there are because i'm coming for you trolls i think there's certain legal things that like hold water or not could you imagine if i like i became a billionaire and it was just off like suing people in like my comments who are mean to me i'm so trying to remember the comment what was the weird uh word that they're trying to say a word oh indoors endorse okay they're only here to see what i indoors. Watch out.
We'll see what happens with that case. We should probably bring back Emily Baker sooner than later to have her break down any updates in this case.
But we will follow along. I'm not sure if this will be granted or not, but we shall see.
It makes sense to me because I just don't know. It seemed almost when he was brought into that lawsuit, it just seemed almost retaliatory and kind of almost like, oh, well, I'm going to go after you.
It's like he didn't work on the set. I mean, obviously, all these theories and stuff like that, but we'll see.
We'll see what happens with that case. Tina Fey, this is interesting, admits that she judges rich people.
Isn't she rich? Yes. Who have side hustles.
Yeah, she's not judging herself. She's judging her peers who are also rich who feel the need to start a liquor company.
A beauty brand. Yeah, or start a hair company.
A hair company. An active wear brand.
I mean, I don't know. I just, for me.
Because you know that they're not that involved involved who cares that they're only doing it to make more money have you walked into narwan every brand is a celebrity brand if you think about it well celebrity brands are the future some of them are very successful some of them aren't are less than successful but like i don't know i listen i my big thing is like i don't know what tina fe's wealth is, but it sounds like she's up there.

She's very successful at a lot of successful projects.

I know when super rich people have opinions about how other rich people like make and

spend their money, I'm just like, I'm uninterested in that opinion.

That's just my opinion.

I find it fascinating.

I do too.

I mean, I think she was being funny and I think it was like an interesting take of like,

I'm judging you for like needing to have a side hustle when like you already make billions

of dollars.

If she's just saying like i kind of hate money i have a problem with rich people having a side hustle if you already have like 200 million i judge it like how much How much of that money she hates has she given away? I mean, I don't know about her philanthropic endeavors, but I'm like, I'm sure if she hates it, she probably does give. I don't know.
Like I say, if an actor makes $8 million on a movie, about 25% of that is just taken away off the top to like their agents and managers and lawyers. So bam, 25% gone.
Then government takes so you got let's say eight million what's 25 of eight million take two million off you got six million left now all of a sudden eight million becomes three million uh and what if they i'm the meme where the woman's just staring out and it's all the equations floating around her head yeah literally i don't know and maybe they got a couple family members they're taking care of and things like that. Maybe someone came into them and said, hey, you want to start a t-shirt line or something? They're like, great.
And then maybe that blew up. And Tina's just saying like, I just judge you a little bit for being like...
Also, like... She's saying it's a little cringy.
Has Tina Fey ever done a commercial? Yes. And like, couldn't that be...
She's still acting be that they thought it was like a side hustle? She's still acting. It's an acting job.
You know she's like holding a shoe? Still acting. I'm acting at the table.
She's entitled to her opinion. I don't know.
It's just more like I'm guessing doesn't have to worry or worry about money period. I don't think Kylie Jenner has to worry about money.
She's incredibly successful being a producer herself. Have you ever judged your peers for like doing something that you feel is a little cringy? Cringy.
Sure. And that's what she's saying.
She's saying that like George Clooney, not George Clooney, but example, George Clooney having his tequila company is a little cringe. I mean, when he, I don't know when he started or what he was worth, but he made a ton of money from it.

I respect the side hustle, too, where I'm like, listen, if I don't want to do 500 movies this year and I can make the same amount endorsing a brand, by all means do it.

But I also think that the opinion is kind of funny.

But also like Tina Fey, she's an actor, she's a producer, she's a writer.

Aren't those kind of side hustles?

She doesn't just do one job.

No, they're all one umbrella. And what is that umbrella? Creator.
Entertainment. No, her, yeah.
Okay. And so let's say George Clooney, like, I'm sure he used his celebrity and his marketing ability or like just his good face.
Like his celebrity. How is that really different than what Tina Fey is doing? Because like they don't use like real tequila in movies, right? It's like water.
So it's like these are two very different things. He's not acting like he likes his tequila company.
I don't know. Maybe he is.
That's fogged up. He's also not sending out emails being like, who wants to collaborate with Cosamigos? There's a lot of actors out there who get maybe one job every five years.
But by all means, and that's what I'm saying, where maybe that's not your side hustle, that's your main hustle. But as soon as they make money, they're like, no, I'm just, I don't know.
I think it's a very, she's in a very convenient position to have an opinion like this. And it's like, okay.
I think it's her being funny and being cheeky and just like calling out some of her like friends. And it's like the fact that she would do this to people is really fucked up.
Like really fucking it up for the rest of us. I'm just going to chew my gum and smoke my weed.
You know what? If a celebrity endorsed or invested in Forever 21, it may still be here. All right.
See, that's what I'm saying. We needed a side hustling celebrity to save America's favorite brand.
We don't need to save Forever 21. I don't know about favorite brand.
Yeah, it was its time to go. That was a hellscape to walk into one of those stores.
Oh, for sure. No, first of all, nothing was ever organized.
You walked in in immediate anxiety. I'm looking at army print next to fluffy pink jackets.
Also, there's like the running joke of, oh my God, this cute white t-shirt. And you it up and it's like puppy lover.
And you're like, what the fuck? Come on. We're doing so well.
So honestly, it was time. R.I.P.
Forever 21. Honestly, had a great run.
The shoes that I was wearing the day that I met Nick are Forever 21 and I will never get rid of them because they hold such a special way. Honestly, some of my older pieces from Forever 21 still hold up.
It was like once they turned into

like wash it once and it shreds

then it's like, yeah, I can't shop here.

But I used to love it.

Is anyone watching the Baldwin's show?

It's been out.

Have people talked about it? Does anyone give a shit?

I haven't heard anybody.

We're watching.

Do you think they're still promoting the show? Because they are an example of everything I don't want anybody. We're watching.
I don't, do you think they're still promoting the show?

Because like,

they are an example of everything I don't want us to be.

Oh yeah.

No,

there,

there,

there's a clip of them on a red carpet where it was crazy.

The interviewer asks a question to like both of them.

And even if it was kind of directed to her,

she kind of like starts answering.

And then he's like,

he starts complimenting her. He's like, she's a star's like I was talking Don't interrupt me when I'm talking On his face He was like I'm sorry It was so sad And he looked dead inside He looked like a broken man When I'm talking you're not talking in front of people are you my mother like house like this man has been through a lot and now you're like snapping at him it's like get a podcast and talk some shit to each other for fun like we do like oh my god don't bring it to the red carpet and like yell at your spouse for the point where they just like die inside.
But also that sentence, like when I'm talking, you're not talking is such a degrading sentence. Like there's a way to be like, honey, could you not interrupt me? Like I was in the middle of a story, you know, like there's a way to say like, hey, wait your turn.
It's also giving like mother of seven. She was like and eight.
Yeah, that's true. That's true.
I mean, I don't know. It's just.
That gives zero patience in the fact that he wasn't even like shocked by it. He said, I'm sorry and looked down at the ground.
Like the saddest face I've ever seen. We know who is running that household.
What would you, what do you, what do we think is a pro? You know what? Let's ask our guests because I think they just got done from dropping off their uh child at school and we can find out what they think is appropriate to pick your kids up at school because there was a kylie jenner video uh that has since been taken down i went to find it and as of now it's not up it's it's a collab with a brand that she's dropping a latex dress her iddy not her iddies her biddies are out and like what was the first one i almost said itties

sorry guys he's gay he doesn't know to talk about boobs i was trying to blend over it in like a

pc way but her jitties okay her tatas were out okay and like basically i mean i took it as she

was joking like in the heart of like promoting the dress but she was like yeah like i would pick

up my kid in this dress was she being sarcastic probably i took it as like being funny maybe funny. Maybe not sarcastic.
Maybe not that serious. It's not serious.
Like Tina Fey. Oh, well, there you go.
Anyways, the internet is outraged. But why? As they should be.
Not that they should be, but that's just what they do. It's just so apparent.
It's a joke. And even if she does pick up her kids, why does it bother you yeah because you know the school because husbands exactly you know the school she's going to is like the school with all of the other famous celebrity children and i'm sure they're all picking up their kids also in like a latex dress as well so it's like they're just all in one yeah do you think like with like are there schools that are just riddled with celebrity kids yes there are yeah oh yeah there's a ton of schools that i could name of like celebrities and normal people going to yeah up towards do you think it's like a red carpet every day no i don't but i do like i hear stories from people being like oh yeah or like when my friends used to nanny and they'd be like oh yeah sure at least they're on just came and picked up her kid while i was waiting for mine.
And it's just like, that's crazy. Just on a Tuesday? Maybe our guests will have some thoughts on what they wear when they pick up their kids because they're up next.
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Yeah. I mean, I had absolutely zero idea that you had this accent.
Oh, really? Yeah, and I feel like I've watched so, obviously, I've watched so much of your work, but just I feel like I've watched you on red carpets, and it's never clicked for me, and then meeting you in person, I'm like, oh,'m like oh yes of course when i'm actually talking i try to say as little as possible on a red carpet because i'm so anxious so just trying to get through just get through yeah just leave new zealand i'm from new zealand yes i went there once oh did you like it i loved it yeah well i was there filming a show. Oh, right, yes.
I was quite tortured. The experience itself was great.
Beautiful. I mean, like, food, amazing.
Where were you? What part? Queenstown. Oh, so beautiful.
Gorgeous. It was like July, June, July, but it was winter there.
So beautiful. Yeah, just wonderful food.
Yeah, very good food. It's so beautiful, man.
Queenstown is amazing. We've got to see that show.
We've never seen that show. I know, yeah.
Yeah, just wonderful food. Yeah, very good food.
Queenstown is amazing.

We've got to see that show.

We've never seen that show.

I know, yeah.

Have you never watched Special Forces?

No.

It's a good mix of like-

It's a good family show.

Yeah, it is a good family show.

Yeah.

I didn't realize who watched it,

but then after I was on it,

young families with their kids would approach me.

Oh, that's so cool.

And it kind of made sense

because when you watch it back, it's actually fun. It is, right? It's all about like, you know, resiliency and fighting through adversity and it's, you know, it's on Fox, which is network and it's pretty clean.
Yeah, yeah. So families can watch it together.
How many kids do you all have? Just one. She's six.
Oh, yeah. We have one.
She's 13 months old. Oh.
Can I show you a video? Oh my please we just got this today oh she has her her morning bed head but she's walking the dog she's walking the dog oh she's so cute oh my gosh she's like right on the verge she's like says mama and dada and like she's saying words and like recognizing pictures and things like that but like you could it feel like she's at the age where she's she doesn't know how to say things but like she you can tell she's processing oh yeah so it's a very fun age it all happens it happens so quickly like this morning on the way to drop her off to school she told both of us that our hair

was too crazy to do an interview today oh yeah too crazy we both had to fix our hair before we came but she's like what are you guys doing today and we're like oh we're gonna go and do she's like well your hair is too crazy you gotta fix it mama oh my gosh yeah hopefully we could Yeah, no, it's looking great now.

I don't know what you changed.

Thank you.

A lot.

A lot.

Take a shower.

Yeah. sweet boss oh my gosh yeah hopefully we could yeah no it's looking great now i don't know what you changed a lot a lot took a shower yeah it is crazy to watch her like because yeah she can't really say a lot but if i'm like oh can you put this over there on that stool and she will go and do it it's so wild yeah it's really crazy when do you feel like her personality really came out and starting to be who she is today? It was always there, I think.
It is weird. It's like something slowly being revealed.
So initially you're like, it just seems like a baby or something. And then even when you see other babies, you start to realize like, oh, no, that's actually only something that our daughter does or whatever.
And then as they get older, you realize that, yeah, it was kind of always there. Wow.
Yeah. It kind of makes sense because you almost have to like, as you're there every day, you get to know your kid.
And yeah, when you're talking about that, like the way River smiled, it's just like, yeah, I guess she always kind of smiled this way.

But you don't really appreciate it

when it first happens. You don't know if it's her

thing or just something babies do.

Yeah, exactly. Is it a universal

thing? Is she a genius?

Or is she just like kind of

normal developing skills?

Exactly. It's like every day

there's this like, she seems to be learning

something new and I'm like, wow. Yeah.
Genius. She's probably a genius.
It's incredible. But it is nice when they start being able to use their words.
And then, you know, as soon as our daughter could say cat, we knew that she was obsessed with cats. And she's been obsessed with cats for forever.
Was that her first word? No, her first word was moon. Moon.
Yeah, moon. Other than mama and dada.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh my gosh.
She pointed to the sky and she said, moon. That's so sweet.
Yeah, it was really cute. Rivers' dog, right? That was like her first word because we have two dogs.
I think it was very easy to just... But yeah, it was over Thanksgiving.
We're at her sister's house and they have lots of dogs. And she just like pointed and said dog.
god because before that it was like mama and data were just like things she learned yeah she kind of says mama and data for a lot of things right now yeah yeah yeah uh yeah it was a really dog dog yeah she points them out and now it's like she'll hear a bird you like like tweeting or cawing and she will like caw caw it's so sweet it's really cool to like watch them grow into human beings we were talking before y'all came in here about Kylie Jenner recently has gone viral for saying she would pick her kids up from school in a latex dress that she was wearing and so the internet obviously the internet interneted how would you feel if you were like oh let me just put on this latex dress to go pick up my kids are you dressing up to pick up the kids or are we in like a robe and pajamas we put on our latex as soon as we get home no of course when the kids are gone yeah the latex comes out yeah i mean i think that's awesome there really is like at our daughter's school, there's a range. Most people are pretty comfortable.
Yeah. Somebody said one day, they were like, oh, you always know who's in the industry because they're either not here or they're in pajamas.
And I was like, they're not pajamas. That's not quite.
That's not quite. It's the cashmere sweater.
Oh, okay. And what are the non-industry great parents wearing? I don't know.
A pantsuit? A pantsuit maybe. A lot of people are in pajamas.
A lot of people are in pajamas. I feel like that would be me with like an open mug, you know, coffee and like my robe on and slippers.
Yeah, we've definitely brought the coffee into, especially assembly mornings. Oh, yeah.
Yeah. Jason, you obviously came on a while back to talk some Bachelor back in the day.
Is that something you guys are still watching? You know, a lot of people have fallen off here or there. We missed the last...
The last like three, I think. Yeah.
what was it for you guys that kind of just

didn't do it for you? I don't know

I mean we've always liked

it there's just so many shows

there's so many great shows

and we got sucked into some of the

Netflix dating shows

and the traitors

I think also we have so little

time at night like once

we get our daughter down and then

to watch something that's two hours

and then like

I'm going to go ahead and get started. I think also we have so little time at night.
Like once we get our daughter down and then to watch something that's two hours. And then like Oscar voting.
Oh, yeah. We had to watch so many movies.
Yeah. And it was like, I don't know.
And then we just sort of ended up not getting into it. And also once you go into like some of the other shows and you realize how just crazy those are.
Yeah. You go back to like The Bachelor recipe and you're like okay it's always so fun like we always do really get into it whenever we yeah we start it we we get sucked in and we're in for a whole season we've never like jumped off mid-season and i like grant it's grant right yeah yeah yeah yeah we've had a chance to interview him a couple times, lovely man he seems like a really lovely guy also he did a really good job this season of not saying thanks for sharing every time someone said something emotional where like a lot of the bastards before him were like I don't know what to do in this moment of you actually sharing so they kind of awkwardly just go thanks thanks you know imagine if you shared what is usually your deepest trauma with somebody and they're just like thanks for sharing you just you'd feel so shut down yeah thank you so much for giving me that information do you want to like do fantasy suites yeah it is strange that trauma dump dinners.
They do. Why is it needed? And they're doing it earlier and earlier, it feels like.
I think it was lazy producing. Is it like a formula? Do they think, oh, it's going to get the viewers on this person's side and make them connect? I think so.
I mean, they've always done that but like it feels like the past few seasons it's almost become like a trope where it was like yeah they really lean you know and i think yeah do you think part of it has to do with like the show's been around so long and that like it's hard for them to cast anyone who hasn't grown up with it or seen it so many times yeah i think that's what they're

supposed to say but like so there's a part of that they come in with and i think at least i don't know maybe some of the producers just that's their shtick yeah you know and so they just think oh i guess we're supposed to to do that but it's always just weird you know and then it becomes like a competition of stories and the next thing you know you have someone being like you know i've you know, I just, you know, ADD, and like, not that that's not, but like, yeah, yeah, I mean,

you know you have someone being like you know i've you know i just ate you know 80d and like not that that's not but like yeah yeah i mean yeah you know i guess but like yeah you know it becomes like this thing where everyone's just kind of watering down these various things where it's like it's almost like a competition you know in a way where it just feels like disengaged you know are you saying this because you really want to open up?

Are you saying this because that's the show?

Try to send me home now. I just told you

the most tragic story in the world.

So what are you guys

enjoying right now? The Traders.

We went straight from the

US Traders to the

new season of the British Traders.

What is better? Is that a celebrity one?

It's not. Have you not seen one? No.
It's not.

Have you not seen it?

Oh, it's good.

First of all.

How do you feel about it?

Do you think it's better to see just normal people fighting for this or do you like the aspect of the celebrities?

There's definitely an element of like,

I don't know.

I guess I don't really know what the celebrities,

what they do with the money if it goes to charity or to themselves. I don't know.
But a lot of them do need the money, I will say. Not everyone's so rich.
No, that's true. But there is something about just seeing a bunch of people who are just playing a game who also don't have like, oh, I know what it's like to be on TV.
That's the nice thing. They are, I mean, a villain will really expose themselves on like, just because that's who they are.
There's one person on one of the seasons from a different country. It's like chilling.
Chilling. Like it's full sociopath.
Yeah. Oh my gosh.
It's fun. It was crazy.
We've watched all of them. Yeah.
Everyone that we can get our hands on. Yeah, the New Zealand one is really fun because first of all, New Zealanders are so good at sniffing out bullshit, so they just find the traitors immediately.
And they're just like, oh, so sorry, mate. I just think you're a traitor.
Oh, I am. It's been really hard.
I haven't enjoyed it. And then it's just like so funny.
They're so kind to each other. Nobody's backstabbing.
It's really fun. Would you ever do it if you were asked? Not in a million years.
I probably would. You would? I love that.
I love Mafia. I love that game.
I love all of that. I love trying to figure stuff out.
I also love trying to figure out how to lie if that's

what the what it requires it's fun it's kind of i i don't think i'm a good liar you know i think i guess i could if i want to but there's a icky feeling and then like it's comforting thank god It's like I'm really good at lying

I lie all the time

I cannot stop lying

I just really can't stop

I'm a lying decent

I make thank god it's like I'm really good at lying I lie all the time I cannot stop lying I just truly can't stop everything in my life is a huge lie but like with the game when you're supposed like you wouldn't like swear on anyone's some of that stuff is like it's just a game I don't know if I need to swear on anything meaningful we have a rule at home when we play mafia when we have mafia at our house there's a rule that nobody can swear on anything relationship my ex-husband swearing on our marriage once oh god that's trauma yeah and you're like see yeah and it worked you believed him and then i did believe him and then and he was well i was like he's not in. And he was.
I was like, he's not in the mafia. He'd never swear on our marriage.
He's not in the mafia. He's.
Poor Jimmy. He's such a wonderful person.
He's a lovely guy. He's just a good game player.
He was like. Yeah.
He was like, people are going to believe me. You believe me.
I mean, it works. But I was shaken.
Yeah. We started.
My little group of friends and I, we've all played this game called The Resistance.

And it's also like a lying game.

It's kind of like Mafia on crack or something.

It's just very fast.

Just a lot of lies.

And we started with like, this is a moral gray area safe zone.

You can say whatever you want.

You can do whatever you want.

And then slowly we had to be like, okay, but you're not allowed to do that.

That's crazy.

And that's way too far. And that hurt my feelings.
I've been cheating on my wife this whole time. Oh, my God.
You can do whatever you want and then slowly we had to be like, okay, but you're not allowed. That's crazy

And that hurt my feelings. I've been cheating on my wife this whole time

Now you all are

Would either of you want to go on the traders? Uh, yes. Yeah, uh, the opportunity was has been presented early in the past I just couldn't make it work

I I hope someday I get the chance and we show and our daughter. I hope I get the chance to do it.
It'd be a lot of fun. You'd be so good.
I think I'd be okay. I think I would come in with a little target on my back.
Because it is, yeah, if they're doing it how they've done it in the past, it is like majority of reality TV stars. Yeah.
In this show, you know, we talk a lot about reality TV. You know, we've shared some opinions.
Oh, of course. Maybe make some enemies along the way that are mad that he called them something.
I was just talking about your character. I didn't know.
But you seem lovely in person. And then I think some people think of me as like you know strategic or whatever and like on fan forums for the show i guess i get brought up as someone who like uh we interviewed derrick from this season and he was saying oh i thought you were going to be on this season so i kind of looked you up and you know yada yada yada and you know i think you i thought you were going to be good so it's like you don't want really people to know much about you yeah right or have really any opinion of you especially like your game playing abilities if you have them but that being said i always kind of get shocked with the celebrity traders is like how the the gamers don't really kind of get targeted it's always like like this year is the housewives yeah that was weird why are we going after the housewives and it's like every season they pick at least one gamer to be a traitor yeah yeah you would think that the people there would be like well someone one of these gamers is definitely a traitor we assess them out like let's just keep focusing on them because they're also still the best ones too absolutely everyone else is going on vibes carolyn was exactly yeah she was amazing she was so good she was her instincts were so good every time and i gotta say i i think i'm a fairly decent people reader but when we interviewed her and she came in it was a bit of like a hectic she said she landed and we were we were leaving la she was coming into la it was a bit hectic, but she really keeps you on your toes

because she's always fucking with you.

And she obviously has kind of eccentric appearance.

You're just like, I don't know what to make of it.

You're too busy just trying to learn about Carolyn.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Whether long she's a traitor or not a traitor,

I can see why she flew under the radar

as long as she did.

She was a great choice.

Amazing choice.

Bev Hills.

Are you guys up to date on Bev Hills?

I think so.

Thank you. I can see why she flew under the radar as long as she did.
She was a great choice. Amazing choice.
Bev Hills. Are you guys up to date on Bev Hills? I think so.
I think we are, yeah. You saw the Sutton on trial at sea? No.
Has that aired? That was, I think that was last night. That was last night.
Yeah, I came on last night. But we were still on the UK traders last night.
We were. Watching Claudia Winkleman.
We've gotten everything up to that. Okay.
So who are some of your favorite, like where are we standing with like Dorit and Sutton or Dorit and Kyle? How do you guys see the group these days? It is interesting how it like shifts over time. Like I've come to really enjoy characters that I had a tough time seeing who they were.
But I think anytime someone goes through like a really tough time, like I think Dorit with the break-in and all of those things that like really, and through this divorce, it's like it's humanized her in a lot of ways for me. And so I feel sad about the Kyle and Dorit thing because I just feel like they're both in so much pain.
Yeah. And they both, I think, have a hard time talking to their soon-to-be ex-husbands about it.
So it's like they come at each other when they could be hugging and crying. Well, last night's episode, Erica kind of came for Sutton a little bit.
And she, you know, when you go back and watch it, it'll be interesting. Well, because I'm sure y'all saw the whole Sutton comment of like, our wallets don't, like you need to mess with someone whose wallet matches.
She goes for the jugular. She really does.
She like will go, if you're, yeah, she will just when she comes in ready to go. Well, yeah, and that was kind of Erica's gripe.
So Erica kind of very, she really, she owned that. I love Erica.
She delivered it very well. Erica has clearly done a lot of work.
A lot of work. And the way that she's like laying things out and being able to step away and take a deep breath and come back.
I'm very impressed with that. She was so, I'm excited for you guys to watch it, but she was so calm and she was just like, so listen Sutton, I've just kind of noticed that for whatever reason, you seem to come at some of these ladies in the group when they're at their lowest.
And then you're as a viewer, you're like, hmm, yeah, I guess. And then she was like, well, you know, you kind of did it with me.
You did it with Kyle. And now you're doing it with Dorit.
And Sutton just loses it. Oh, really? And then there's this whole semantics argument where Erica said, you bring the women down at their lowest.
So Sutton's basically accused Erica of saying that Sutton hates all women or something. And Erica's like, well, no, here's three examples.
That's the thing. She came with like three examples and it was like...
Yeah, after the sisterhood conversation. And it makes a lot of sense because Sutton always seems lovely.
Justin's a huge Sutton fan. I'll defend her to the grave.
And what is it? What is it about? Well, I mean, I base it of meeting her like i think but i think she's like like she'll have a genuine conversation with you even if you are a normal person and i just take it as i take it as she says it how she sees it like she's gonna ask the questions people aren't asking i i will say i got a chance to meet her and she was lovely she was very nice and it was that's why I'm always sort of surprised on the show where when she feels attacked, how intense her comments to, like it's further than like, that hurt my feelings and I want to tell you, it's like, I want to hurt you so bad. Yeah.
She gets like vicious. And as soon as you say like Sutton, can I, and then you could see her just kind of.
And just like, soon as you give that note she's like i feel whatever and it just cuts yeah you're just like well i was just trying to um i do i do feel for her i feel you know i you know i think you that comes from a lot of pain as as well but you know it's such and it's such a hard thing to deconstruct like like Erica has done when you're feeling attacked. You can step back, take a deep breath, figure out if you actually are being attacked.
But I think she when she feels attacked, she goes into like super fight mode. And if she could if she could like snip that button to response and be able to take a breath and think, is this actually what's happening? You know, I, I, I hope I wish that for her, but it is fun to watch.
Erica really has come a long way. I was, it was, I was, I had always had a hard time with the whole earring controversy.
Oh yeah. I was like, I was like, we're just going wet, you know? Yeah.
Regardless, you know, the, for her to be, however, they were able to live the lives that they lived back in the day when they lived this life of opulence and luxury for her to lose seemingly all that yeah get this and again i'm sure it's a very lovely place and it's in bev hill so i'm sure also probably still really expensive but just the the shift and her to make the most of a completely different lifestyle and a complete you know it's hard for ever anyone and they're you know when when a lot of people lose that much they they don't often pick themselves back up and reinvent themselves yeah and i also really had a hard time when all of that stuff was happening when everyone was like Well of course she knew what he was doing She's not like in his Law firm like looking over the books He definitely didn't seem Like the type Well he definitely didn't seem like the type who at the dinner table was like Honey let me tell you I know So that was supposed to go to a family of four But I thought you. Yeah, I thought maybe you need a private jet.
It's so awful. I've also seen a lot of rich people who have, you know, they have a certain lifestyle.
And when things start to like go wrong, they keep up appearances and it becomes like a pyramid scheme and they're borrowing. And so, you know, I think your much younger wife would be someone that you wouldn't be like, listen, I'm in trouble.
Yeah. You know, you're like trying to still keep up appearances of I got you, I can do this, I can do this.
And he was never my favorite, but I... Oh, he was so horrible to her.
I know. God, she's really come a long way.
She's come a long way. We may never see another or what she's so still though she's like a queen I keep on studying her because she's so powerful I was on Dancing with the Stars with her way back when and I'm a bit introverted outside of talking for a living.
And so is Erica. Really? Yeah.
But she's tall. She's beautiful.
Sometimes I will get criticism for being unapproachable or aloof or looking like my face looks like a dick. I've been told.
And Erica can be very be very intimidating i can go up to her and talk to her she's so nice and chill and cool but like you she is intimidating oh yeah in person and a lot of it is just kind of quietness and she's comfortable just kind of sitting in the background well yeah that's very nerve-wracking for people sometimes absolutely i think she she allows you know i'm i feel, I'm, I feel like I meet someone and I'm like, how can I show you that I'm not a threat? And she's just like, hello. You know, she has like, she doesn't matter what you think of her.
She, she is very like in her body, which is cool. I don't need to talk to feel awkward.
Exactly. That's a you problem.
Exactly. I wish I had that.
You should try. I'll try Just go Come around Being kind of calm Or what Are there any Housewives franchises You guys enjoy These days That's the main one That's the only one We really watch I also I'm a I'm like you I'm a For Kyle I'm kind of like She can do no wrong That's what like with Kyle too.
Yeah. I just think she's at least trying and she's honest and she's trying to bring people together.
And not that she's like never made any mistakes, but I just, I feel like she's a good person at heart. I feel that way too.
I think also, I mean, in this episode you'll see, but like Garcelle really is just, she doesn't drop the Morgan Wade of it all. And it's like.
Yeah. But I kind of get Garcelle's point of view.
She calls out Sutton for basically being in Kyle's back pocket. It's like you're this with all the other ladies.
But when it comes to Kyle, you always give her a pass. And then there's a moment in the episode where there's like an example of it where, you know, Kyle doesn Sutton's back but Sutton doesn't call her out but she'll call up the other women I guess I get where I get where I was coming from because I could never do what these ladies do the housewives like what they give to the audience it's true it's unbelievable do, you know, there's that cartoon with the, the wolf and the sheepdog and they like clock out at the end of the day.
They like fight all day and then they're like, morning for it. I feel like honestly, they do that.
I feel like they have to remain sane, right? I mean, it's like, but sometimes it's so mean that like, how can you can be like, that was too far. Well, talking to a to a lot of housewives there's there's real feelings that go outside of right these episodes and these scenes i think it's a mix of both i think some of them you know it's a job right um but they're all they are human beings and when someone's just screaming at your face and calling you out it's intense it's intense and usually i don't think you know it's reality tv so the you know the the idea is no one's an actor or they're not it's supposed to be authentic so you're not like hey i'm gonna yell at you in 10 minutes you're right you just come in with and you make a decision you caught that person off guard but i guess back to the garcello at all i get it where it's just like you know we've been asked to do certain things and it's just like no like you know uh we have the show we like to share some things about our relationship and our family we pick and choose but like we get to decide what we're comfortable with and we very much want to protect our relationship that matters above all things and you give up so much control of your life and you are expected yeah to talk about these things and i think right i think with some of these ladies of these ladies, they're just like, yeah, Kyle, she's been there the whole time.
She's the OG. She is Beverly Hills Housewives.
When some of them else are kind of forced to talk about things they don't want to, it would be frustrating to be like, well, come on, Kyle. Can we just get to the bottom of this thing that's not even that deep and you're kind of putting it in our faces but we're not allowed to talk about it but I got to talk about like why my son or kid or my husband or partner or what rumors or right now it's just like they always have to address these rumors but to Erica's point she was like Garcelle keeps coming at Kyle for this Morgan weight of it all.
And it's like, we know nothing about who Garcelle's fucking. It's like, Garcelle just like will not let this Morgan.
She was standing on the side of a stage and Garcelle's like, and what was that all about? You went to a concert? Yeah, that is strange. It seems like she just went to a concert.
It wasn't like a picture of them canoodling.

I mean, I guess that also at the same time,

you can't, you know, have a show just be like,

everything's pretty good.

We've done a lot of work on ourselves.

Feeling healthy?

If they are, if there is some kind of secret romance,

it's a very attractive couple.

I have wound it up on Morgan Wade TikTok.

Oh, yes.

Where it's just people at her concerts. And she does, Jessie's Girl, she does a rendition of that song.
And I contemplate my sexuality while watching. And I understand where Kyle comes from.
It all makes sense. Yeah, she's very cool.
She seems so cool. Yeah.
Yeah, there's something very appealing. I get it.
I get it, Kyle. I also just like what she unlocks in Kyle.
Kyle is having so much fun with her and feeling, I don't know, just feeling, I don't know. I can't even, who knows what they're doing.
She's getting the tattoos. It's like fun and life-affirming and sweet and leave Kyle alone.
It's her pride. Leave Kyle alone.
So I was asking before we started recording, you guys have not jumped into Temptation Island yet. No, not.
No. Is that something we could interest you in? Or is like, is that too kind of smutty? No, we've gone pretty low.
Yeah, I mean, we watched Too Hot to Handle.

Oh, yeah. Well, then you need to watch

Temptation Island. Because this is

like that on steroids.

It's crazy. It's

four couples who come in. Some

of them, one has been together for three and a half

years. Okay.
I think the

one is like a year, so it's

in between. It's like 20s, early

30s. Yeah.
Later 20s, early 30s. So it's more of a younger cast.
Right. Okay.
Not like my four children and I. Yeah.
Just thought we'd go on the show. Yeah.
So those are the four couples at the top. Okay.
And then they sit together as couples as all of the women, the temptresses walk by. Oh.
And then they sit there as a couple as the tempters walk by and then they get to the temptresses and tempters like choose the person that they're interested in so like in front of your partner like so this like beautiful woman in a bikini walks up and like puts a bracelet on nick and is like i'm so glad you're here and you just like watch it and then they go and move into a house oh these well we love the ultimatum oh yeah so yeah there's hidden cameras everywhere it's very much like we have boundaries of like we will not cross a physical line and then they're like having shower sex the next scene was one of these and then the women go to a bonfire and they watch clips of what their boyfriend has been doing or girlfriend but usually as you might suspect that the two different islands have two very different vibes like it's on the man's island with the women temperatures it's party And then on the women's side, it's like a therapy session of all the girls just kind of talking to all these guys about their boyfriends and kind of like, you know, he just doesn't listen. You know, like the way I want him to.
And he just doesn't stop having sex with these temperatrices. Exactly.
And then like people like Tyler, you know, when the temptresses were giving, you know, coming out, what did he say? Like in front of his girlfriend. He was like, oh, that one in that bikini is insane.
What? Like crazy stuff. So are the tempters and temptresses just looking to mess up a relationship? Or are they singles looking to be with someone? So yeah, they give them confessionals.
They allow you to get to know these. They humanize them in a good way.
So they're not just there to be with someone so yeah they give us they give them like confessionals they allow you to like get to know they humanize them in a good way so they're not just there to be like let me see if i can no they're like listen i want to like potentially build a relationship with you maybe we could leave this island together and like not your girlfriend of four years but me that you've known for two weeks and so yeah they're all kind of and then there's others who are like... I just want to mess stuff up.
Yeah. I just want to see the world burn.
No one really says that, but they're... Breon, his kind of story, his partner, Shantae, she's lovely, calm, seems so down to earth, and just, I guess, right reasons not to steal anything from the Bachelor.
And he is just like, I'm paraphrasing, but he's like, my dick needs to have sex. Not me.
This is a him. He's just like, I want nothing to do with it.
I'm on your side. The way God made me, I need to take care of my guy.
That's kind of how he talks. Shortly in, he has a threesome in a shower.
Oh. Right after, he's like, yeah, didn't regret that.
He basically is as if he went to check off a box. Wow.
And this Breon guy, and then there's this Grant guy. They clearly have never had like good role models, I don't think.
And they seem to be very emotionally like stunted and immature. Yeah.

Where Grant also had sex with someone.

And then his confessional decided to forgive his girlfriend for I'm not sure what.

He's like, I forgive you.

And he's talking.

He's like, I'm not a bad guy.

I just like, as if the sex they're having on Temptation Island is something they owe to themselves.

Yeah.

And they don't regret it. It's wild.
And it's just the way these guys talk through their bullshit. It's like a microscope into that age of man's brain.
Yeah. And like how it works.
And you're like this. In 2025, like hookup culture.
Yeah. This is crazy.
Like you've been with this girl for two and a half years. You've been away from her for four nights.
And you're already having sex with someone else. And then you're like, listen, I'm not really sorry, but I forgive you for all of our past issues that we've ever had.
Basically for not accepting him for who he is. Wow.
That is happening. I mean, a man who just simply loves sex.
And that's all. What's so bad about that? I do feel like some people in this world have to learn life lessons by going on a reality show and having the internet go, no, that's not normal.
And maybe sometimes that doesn't even work. But yeah, I think you would have to look at yourself if like universally there was like one response.
It wasn't like, oh, there's like split. Like everyone's like, this is not a thing.
And what's so crazy is that Brion, one of the temptresses that he's like kept, they kind of like send some of them home, you know, the ones that they're not really connecting with they send some home but you can keep multiple temperatures yes so like after like a few days I'm not sure what the timeline is the host Mark Wahlberg he's great he's also Mark Wahlberg oh not not not the Mark Wahlberg but he's the other Mark so Temptation Island actually has been like I season one I watched when I was a sophomore in college in 2001. It's been around, oh, wow.
And it was on Fox. And it's jumped around from, like, I think it was on USA.
It was on Peacock for a minute. Now Netflix has it, which is, I think, a really good thing.
Okay. But he's the same host from, like, years ago.
But he, unlike, say, like, a Chris Harrison or a Jesse Palmer, no disrespect to them. And maybe the show doesn't ask him to do that.

We love Jesse Palmer.

Love Jesse Palmer.

But every once in a while,

you know,

Jesse comes out and,

you know,

I don't know if you guys remember,

did you watch Clayton's season when he was like,

I love you all.

And Jesse comes out and he's like,

well,

good luck.

You know,

it's just like,

like the bachelor will come out and just be like,

I don't,

I don't,

I'm really in a lot of trouble here.

And Jesse's like,

yeah,

I'm excited to see how you, what you do. And Mark is very much like giving like real genuine advice.
Oh, wow. That's interesting.
And it's just weird because it's this kind of smutty show where they're doing threesomes. And then in these fireside chats, Mark's like, so wow, like that's like some real deep childhood stuff going on here.
And you're like, wait, wait, what show am I watching? That's like the Jerry Springer effect. I remember I used to watch that show and just be like, oh.
And then at the end, he'd be like, you know what, guys? Listen, be kind to each other. And he always had like a Jerry's final thoughts.
And they were like pretty profound most of the time. What did that Jerry threw, you know? Yeah, yeah, exactly.
You didn't stop any of those fights, but you're right, Jerry. Let me ask you guys a question.
If someone said to someone, well, maybe you said to your wife, you're just like, there's only one Jason and there's only one Melanie. What would that mean to you? Like if in the context of...
Like you've been around a bunch of temptresses the whole time and like you wanna... You sent a video.
Oh, and you were like... Say I was on the other island and I get this video from Jason.
And he goes, I just want you to know there's only one Jason and there's only one Melanie. So annoying.
So annoying. Because they were like were like wow that's really romantic

on that show and I'm like

I don't even know what that means

I mean also his name was Lino and I don't know a lot of Lino

so yeah I was like

there's probably only one Lino

but her name is Alexa

that's pretty common

so okay I didn't understand

so it's because so you're talking about

someone who talks about themselves in the third person

I guess but like it just like was

he said it like it was so profound

I don't understand so you're talking about someone who talks about themselves in the third person I guess but he said it like it was so profound and I'm like well first I don't know I mean I guess but huh but if so did you have sex with someone else or not my point is there's only one and when I did it wasn't as good as it is with you there's's only one of you. It is a crazy show.
And I feel like my jaw has just dropped the entire show. Because you're like, oh my God, these people.
How are you doing this? I know you guys have a lot of TV to catch up on. That does sound interesting.
It does sound really interesting. Some of these shows.
If you liked Ultimatum. We do like the Ultimatum.
But we like the Ultimatum because it's like, like some of these shows if you like the ultimatum we do like the ultimatum but we like the ultimatum because it's like like some of these shows people's like fixation on bodies i it's like they don't know anything about people other than what they look like and then people are like oh my type like that's not my type that's and it's like who has such a specific type when you don't don't you you need to know things about people? I feel so scared for like the world sometimes. Because it's like the things that make you fall in love with a person, like people that I've been with, it's like all over the map.
Like nobody looks like each other. It's so strange to have like a type, I think, and stick to it so religiously.
Well, they say it like right when they meet someone. They're like,'re just so my type you're my type and they're like oh thank you so much your blonde extensions and your boobs are just really my type that's what it is distilling people down to like not even just bodies but like body parts parts of a body that you find appealing and then the humanity is like stripped away and of course like men like that are going to go on a show and be like well I get to fuck whoever I want because there are body parts that are appealing to me and I'm used to these other body parts and it's like this I don't know it just feels like the death of like empathy and feeling and I don't know if we want it to come people get so like detailed It's like, well, my type is blue eyes.
I know. So no green eyes at all.
Even though you have green eyes, I'm finding you attractive. It's like, what's happening? Thanks for really listening to me and paying attention to what I said.
Yeah. It's not mine.
Yeah, yeah, exactly. Wow, we're really connecting, but different hair colors.
It's's not gonna work for me. I'm just more of a...
So strange to me. And then you feel bad because like, again, what was, what's her name? Breon's lady.
Shantae. Shantae.
She, again, she comes across as such like a... No, I just was feeling for Shantae.
Oh my God, you're gonna feel... You really do.
If you watch it, because she just seems like such a good person. Yeah.
And he seems like the exact opposite. Like, I mean, it's edited, so, you know, you don't know.
But what we're seeing of Brion is not great. And he lacks kind of any empathy for her and any kind of thought that his decisions will impact her whatsoever.
And it's just so to see her but i have you know because i see this a lot in in real life in dating culture where it's like you see this person and you're like they're they seem smart and put together and self-aware and have everything else going in their life yeah and then you meet who they're dating yeah and they're just like and they treat them terribly. And then she'll say things like,

but I just love them so much.

And I'm like, what exactly about them do you love?

People are so mysterious.

I always love to ask people,

what do you love about how they make you feel?

When you ask people that question,

their eyes go, it's like their brain breaks because they never thought of it in those contexts

about how I feel.

Right.

Because it's like, it sounds like you've been miserable for, i don't know like a period of time like maybe a year and i'm like well what do you mean you love because like it sounds like you're confused and upset and hurt constantly you know but like it's it's you see that people struggle with that they just like they decide they love someone probably maybe early in their relationship or whatever and then they just kind of the love that they have seems more based off of just like time invested. Yeah.
I mean, yeah. I think also sometimes like you can, you get to know somebody and you know their story and you know what, what trials and tribulations they came through.
And then you make excuses for the behavior that comes from that. Cause you're like, Oh, but I know I see their little child, you know, like I see who, what's going on, but there's no expectation to have them grow or be better.
You're just so, you're not sort of seeing that daily, you're getting this behavior towards you. And I also think sometimes it's easier to have a clear bad guy in the relationship.
If you're both really trying, then you're both going to be the bad guy at different times. And that's uncomfortable for people.
It's much easier for some people to go meet with their friends and complain. It's also a lot less scary to have your own negative self-belief reinforced back to you than it is to believe in your own goodness and worth.
And people just fall into traps where they don't feel good about themselves. They're with someone who makes them feel worse.
And it's just like a cycle. They're just like, well, this makes sense to me.
This works with my brain because that's what I'm already telling myself. Right.
Yeah. And they feel like also some people feel like, anybody being nice to me is someone wanting something from me but someone being mean to me that's real i can count on that sure you know which is sad yeah yeah well you guys are also in some really cool and exciting shows you obviously are in yellow mirror and i'm on temptation island yeah on the new season yeah.
What? On the new season. Yeah.
Yeah. I didn't tell you.
She comes in at the last time. Yeah.
She's a final temptress. As a temptress? Yeah.
Oh, wow. Okay.
The temptress. Yeah.
Good luck. Good luck, guys.
Yeah. She's crazy.
Matlock's a lot of fun. Oh, thanks.
Thanks. It's just fun to see you in, you know, out there and, like, blowing up.
And it's just. It's been great to see.
And then obviously Yellow Jackets is a huge hit. How many seasons now is it on? Three.
Yeah, the third season is airing right now. How do you guys manage your busy lives, your love for watching TV together, working, being two working parents, but also very, very family oriented.
How do you guys all make that work? Yeah. I mean, it's definitely, I think, you know, we both want to make it work.
And when we first got together, there's sort of an element of spontaneity that, that you can just sort of do like, oh, I have a job and it's over in this country. So, you know, yeah.
it become and you can even do that for the first couple years with your child um but once they get into school we had a sense that when our daughter started kindergarten that we wanted a little bit more stability and yeah so matlock has been such a gift because it films here so yeah when i was doing yellow jackets and jason was filming i was going back and forth to vancouver and sometimes i'll go up and do a day and come back you know she came back so it's a lot i came back every time every chance i got and most of the older cast is doing that because a lot of us have kids so there's not a lot of like hanging out together time it's nice when you do get to. How's Vancouver? Do you like filming in Vancouver?

Yeah, it's really nice.

Yeah.

Yeah.

We've never been.

Oh, nice.

A lot of great playgrounds.

It's really good for kids.

A lot of great kids stuff.

Is it really rainy there? Yes.

It is.

Yeah.

But I'm from New Zealand, so used to it.

Does your daughter have a New Zealand accent or an American accent?

On some woods.

Really?

Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah.
She definitely, I didn't notice it at first, but then all of a sudden I heard you say something and I was like, oh my gosh, that's how, how cool. Also when you hear other little kids talk and they just fully have an American accent, she doesn't, yeah, she has a little accent.
Oh, that's sweet. And she's also lived in so many different places since she was born.
She's so cool. Especially like the sound like four or like four or something like that.
She says it much more like. Yeah.
Four. Yeah.
Horse. Oh, yeah.
It's like I remember when my niece was, I don't know, three, maybe four, and she was, Peppa Pig was everywhere. And she had a British accent for a while.
Like like peppa pig so getting to know you jason it feels like uh you are a very involved father like you guys seem like very much like a team and now and i very much try to emulate that and do that because what i've learned being a dad early on is that especially for dads and maybe even some parents but like i think there's a lot of people who want to have kids yeah you know and it's like i want to be a dad someday but then i think there are people who like love being parents yeah you know um and i feel very lucky now that i talk to us about this a lot that i feel very lucky that i'm we're with each two people who like we we love being parents yeah and we love like you know sharing the responsibilities of of raising her because like we we we like it you know and i feel very fortunate and i think we both feel very fortunate and i you know just from a very far because i don't know you guys that well and i see interviews and your social medias but you guys seem like you both together as a team really enjoy being a family being a team being parents it's just really fun and inspiring to see because like you don't see that all the time and i and there's a couple that very much tries to emulate that it's it's really nice and fun to see i thank you that's very nice i i yeah i i feel very lucky you're gonna cry no yes no i cry all the. I do cry all the time.
No, I think it's, yeah. I mean, we talk about all the time how, you know, it's a lot of work and it's a lot of fun, but it's also a lot.
And so, you know, you would want, the luckiest thing would be to be with someone who also wants to be a parent as much as you do. Like that, it's such a- I can't imagine doing it with someone who's like, oh God, that's so annoying.
Yeah, I never wanted something like- You want me to bathe her tonight? Come on. Right, exactly.
It's like a kind of this thing that's going around is like, you know, I'm so happy that I picked someone who wants to be a husband and a father versus someone who wants a wife

and babies and it's such like that

oh right yeah

yeah exactly there's definitely a difference

I never thought about it until I was a dad

yeah

you don't want someone like if I was like

oh you know her daughter

so bizarre

sometimes like people will be like oh my husband's babysitting tonight and it's like he's not babysitting just with his you're not paying him to do it he's parenting like you would like yeah you wouldn't say i'm babysitting tonight right you know it's interesting it is funny to see the reactions to like a single dad at the park versus like a you know There like, it's always like a, Oh, wow. You're here.
Like, yeah, I, sometimes I'll just take my dog to the park. And then you see a mom, like nursing a baby, pushing one in a stroller with like four dogs.
Yeah. Thank you.
Keep doing what you do. Someone has to out what she's doing wrong.
Yeah. I have a celebrity friend who was talking about,

you know,

they're also active parents.

And when he takes their kids to school,

he's treated like people are just like,

oh my God.

Yeah.

You're here to drop off.

But when she brings to school,

you know,

and they're a celebrity couple like you guys.

And it's just like,

oh yeah,

sure.

Mom brought the kids to school. Yeah.
It's like the credible standard standard it's always kind of like this weird thing you need more people like us Jason I know somebody said to me when someone was like Jason does drop off a lot and I was like yeah why do we need to have a further conversation yeah I'm not like I'm so grateful it's like yeah he does his part yeah I am so grateful but like normalize we did both sign up for this so we are both doing just our part you know anyways it's fun to have sorry couples. I know.
I just can't imagine doing it with somebody who's not as invested. I remember my mom, she was like, whenever I told her about Nick, she was like, I'm just so grateful that he has never been married or hasn't have children before.
Because she married my dad after he had three kids. And she was like, you know, the first time I was pregnant, I was like, oh, my God, the baby kicked.
And she would say my dad would be like, cool. Because, like, he had been through it so many times.
So like nothing was like you know the first time i was pregnant i was like oh my god the baby kicked and she would say my dad would be like cool because like he had been through it so many times so like nothing was like as exciting as it was for her and she was like i'm so excited that you have someone who's just like equally on that yeah go through it all together after after river was born her mom was very graciously there to help and like the first couple days she was looking i just i kept noticing her being like because i was just like involved uh he was like cleaning my breast pumps and would like get them charged and she was just like this is crazy yeah i mean yeah and like another generation it's the worst job parts yeah i got real good at it i was also a very good swaddler oh yeah i was a good swadd good swaddler, too. I think some of the stuff that I like.

I know.

Maybe it's just like there's certain things we can't do the way mom can.

Right.

Of course.

And I feel like all the things that I could do that like, you know, whether it's cleaning pumps or swaddling, it's like I'm going to dominate this task.

I saw recently someone, this older guy, he said his kids were like in college now.

But he was like, one piece of advice I could give to parents with young children is like make everything a game like everything that you do like you're sitting at a diner and you like do like blind taste tests of the syrup like you just like make everything that you do this just like fun game so that like they will i think it's like not needing screens or whatever but it was just like a fun way to think of like involving your kids in everything you do. Like instead of distracting them, you involve them and like, you know, it's a cool.
That is a cool. How do you guys manage screen stuff? Because that is something that makes us, you know, we don't have to worry about it now.
She's so young. Yeah.
You know, we try to limit it but she also i think i think the key is that like we talk about it with her and you know um it's not just like she's not just sort of zoned out and also she still loves going outside and going to the park and if there was ever a moment where it was like tantrum because i just need more ipad then i would feel like oh we've gone too far but we do other things with her that are fun so she wants to do the other things yeah like she wants to play she wants to draw she wants to do a puzzle she wants to go somewhere you know so it's i think you have to give them other options yeah otherwise of course they're gonna want to be Natalie taught to you how to be excited about everything now anything new we present she goes oh it's so cute because we just started doing that to anything new we're like wow and now she just mimics anything new she goes it's so cute well we know you guys have to get going And we thank you for your time It was just fun to catch up with you guys Yeah yeah it's so fun And hear about you What's up with you guys And all your fun projects Anything you guys want to plug Before we let you go? Yellow Jackets is coming out Every Friday With new episodes I think Unless there's a break I don't I think so I don't know yes Friday and then Matlock is on Thursdays but not these next two Thursdays there's three episodes left starting on April 3rd and it's like it all three really great ones anytime I was homesick growing up I was like hoping a Matlock episode was on. That's awesome.
Back in the day. It's so nostalgic to see it back on.
It's so good. It's such a good show.
It's so much fun. I'm having a great time.
It's great, man. Well, congratulations to all your guys' success.
And it's great to catch up with you guys. And thanks for coming on.
Thanks for having us. Thanks for having us.
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I just love Jason and Melanie.

I've always been a big fan of Jason's.

I mean, for those of you guys don't know,

like Jason's dad, like a legend.

Through his company?

Yeah.

Which I actually saw John Ritter,

for those of you guys who don't know,

sadly passed away many years ago.

Thank you. Jason's dad, like a legend.
Three's Company? Yeah. Which I actually saw John Ritter, for those of you guys who don't know, sadly passed away many years ago.
And yeah. And then Jason has been in the biz for a while and it's been fun to see him become more and more successful.
Obviously, we know Melanie has been in so many things. I feel like any time you turn on a movie or a TV show, it's like, oh my God, there's Melanie Litsky.
It's like she's in just everything. Oh, she's a great character.
Yeah. I always forget she has an accent because she's so good.
I know. That it's just like, oh, yeah, you're not from here, are you? That's what I said to her.
Yeah. No, it's wild.
I hope they do watch Temptation Island. I'm like so sad.
I only have like two episodes left. How would you feel? I know you've been in love for a while, but let's say you had some random hookup sex and then he called you cute afterwards.
No, adorable. Adorable.
Yeah, no. There's a lot of things that I must have done.
And if adorable, is it like a pat on the head? Like, good job, babe. I don't ever want to hear the word adorable and me associated in the same sentence.
Who said this? Grant, whenever he wrote his letter to Natalie, he was like, you're so cute and adorable. And it was like, we were just fucking in the shower last night and now I'm adorable.
Because Tyler also said dear. And I think about that pretty often.
I'm like, what is the language we're using here? Tons have changed. Well, he also in his letter to Natalie said, I yearn for you.
Yeah, Grant wrote that. I guarantee you he wrote that and goes, this is good.
This is real good. Ooh, I cringed a little.
Nice. Yearn.
He's like, what's a big word I could use? They like pride and prejudice. He's like, I am Jane Austen.
I am Mr. Dawsey.
Yeah. Dear.
Like, Grant is a perfect example of tall privilege. because the confidence that man has.
Truly. And I'm just not sure where else he's getting that confidence other than the fact that he seems to be, like, 6'3", 6'4", you know? He's attractive, too.
You think? They're all attractive, this cast. Do you think Grant is, like...
I think he's conventionally attractive, yeah. Eh.
He seems like the type of guy that can go out and get what he wants. Yeah, exactly.
He acts as if he's never been told no. He lacks...
I don't think him and... They look like they haven't had no role models.
Who? Him and who? Most of the guys. Okay.
Well, because they're all just operating with such low character traits. It's like, how have you never had someone be like, hey, that's actually not how you treat someone that you would say that you love.
It was like the Breon explaining his like cheating being like, well, this is what's happening here. But like, it's not real.
And it's like, bro, you guys are going to leave together. And what you did here not only exist in real life, but it is filmed to replay to show how little you fucking cared.
So it's just like the idea that you think that these are two separate ideas of like, oh, I can hook up in Fantasy Island. I do wonder if there is like a part of them that maybe they talked about before where it was like, hey, if I can get it to happen where I can have a threesome, like.
No way. You would think so.
But her reaction to finding out. I think it obviously would be hard for anyone to watch.
But I feel like the way that he was just talking about it so openly and he's like, listen, no, like, I don't need to go in that tent. Like, I'm here to show everything.
I don't need to hide anything. Like, I'm here to be open and honest.
It seemed very much like I know she's going to forgive me. I don't regret that.
This is what I can't, you know? Well, that's no, but that's why I find so sad about that situation. And I think there's a lot of relationships out there where, you know, one person just knows they just have to like wear that other person out, you know, like, like Shantae, like, you know, they, they did did the video and they had the fireside chat and like she like steps away and it's like you, they both know they're gonna, like I think they're gonna end up together.
I think Shantae and Breon leave together as a couple because the energy they give is it's like he just, it's like he knows he's in the doghouse now, but he's not, he doesn't give a fuck. He's not worried at all about her like saying, I'm done with you.
It's like, he knows, it's like, he's just not worried. And even her, she acts like she's hurt.
She's upset. She can't believe he did this, but there's really no like, I'm done with this.
It's more like she steps away to figure out how do I, how can I process this and get through it? And it's like you you can tell there's like this unspoken understanding between them which is what i think you're kind of referring to but i don't think it's like a pact or an actual understanding it's like this unspoken thing where he just knows that he has all the power and control in this relationship and so when he decides to have a threesome because he's never had one yet and this is the perfect opportunity to do it he just doesn't give a fuck yeah i mean grant i feel like that's the difference in grant and uh ashley is that she at least is kind of like fuck this guy you know like she she kind of came into temptation island being like right away being like he's too cocky he's kind of a piece of shit Maybe he's followed through. But his ability to just be like, I love you.

And I still like, it's like now that he's had sex,

he's like ready to love her again.

Like he did her a favor.

But because she didn't send a video back,

he's ready to invest in Natalie. But if she would have sent a video back,

then like he probably still would have left with Ashley,

but would have hooked up with Natalie a few more times

before they left.

I mean,

like the grant and,

and,

and Breonna have,

they,

it is all about them.

It is everything about their relationship is about how they feel about

anything.

And that's really all that matters,

you know,

like they,

you know,

well,

and that's what Amaya said whenever she was like,

I'm declining your date because you like the way you're operating is I'm

like not down for that. And I give her so much props for being able to be like i know this is like technically my role here but i'm not down with the way that you're treating her yeah like i wish that shanta kind of especially seeing like another woman say that to your long-term partner that's where it'd be like if she can't even do it in a week what am i doing right yeah i think the only positive thing Brienne thinks about women is that they're useful.
For threesomes till the birds come trooping? Like, you know, I think a lot of times, you know, we'll say things like, oh, he hates women or she hates men or whatever. And I think sometimes it's a little generalized because like maybe they're, someone's fighting with a partner and, you know, they act mean.
But he really, just the way he's treating the whole, all the tempt and his you know it's just it's very objectification it's very like the way he had that threesome and then like got in the bed didn't say anything to him like let him leave and let one of them kick one out courtney she had a threesome and she got booted early oh okay dropped the show yeah it's like and he goes yeah she's cool but you know i'm good

and then whenever amaya before she declined the day is like sitting on the bed with him and they're having that conversation she's like you know what like i don't feel comfortable having this and she like gets up and he's like people are so fucking weird man it's like huh he's and she can still hear you yeah and she's like what when we're watching shantae she just looks like this is a good person. This is a cool person.
Like she's grounded. But he is on fucking Mars.
Even after the threesome, he does his interview and he's like, well, maybe we'll see if we can get Amaya and one of the other girls in bed next. Yeah, an angel.
Yeah. And I was just like, you have no remorse.
You do not feel bad. And then he sits there being like, OK, well, now that it's time for me to probably get back with my girlfriend, you know, like, I just know I want to be the man that she expects me to be.
It's like, I can't help but be kind of happy for Tyler and Kay. They're kind of adorable.
You're not. I think Taylor, I think Taylor has the potential of sometimes being a little Karen-ish.
I didn't love the, like, he has bitch tendencies. And I'll say that to his face.
Like, I don't, I'll say that till the day I die or like whatever her little. You know what? And like watching Taylor, it reminded me just like how many, I think how many ladies out there are looking for useful idiots.
And I think if you're a lady out there dating a man, if you treat your guy or think of him as kind of a useful idiot he's gonna eventually hate you that's a recipe for resentment and i think there's a difference between like giving your partner shit and fucking with each other but when you start like rolling your eyes and like everything that comes out of their mouth is either stupid or dumb or why do you say that and they're just like essentially useful idiots everything they do they do annoys you. Yeah.
And I think that like sitcoms, it's always like smart mom, useful idiot husband, you know? And I think a lot of our, you know, on a quantity, honestly, sitcoms we grew up on were kind of gave that vibe. And I think that's that there's a lot of relationships out there where like the man in the relationship is thought of as kind of a useful idiot.
And that is like a number one way. I promise you, ladies, that your husband's going to hate you if he doesn't already.
It's kind of the same way if like the other way around. If you treat your, you know, for the men, if you treat your spouse as like just like a constant, you know, nag or whatever, resentment is probably the number one thing that leads to an end of a relationship.
And just like, yeah, like Taylor just seems to, Tyler obviously has his flaws. And like, I do think he's very inexperienced.
He comes across as someone who really blossomed in his twenties. Like, well, he said he had only had one relationship prior to Taylor.
Right. And it was like married.
He got married like as a teenager and then, and like met Taylor to basically get out of that marriage. And so like, here's a guy who's kind of really hasn't lived some real life.
So I kind of him a little slack i think tyler has is a good soul you know not perfect and definitely maybe does or says things he shouldn't say but he seems like a good one it is hard though to watch these couples like crack in just days it's like yeah come on i will give k credit though that i was like the whole i'm just gonna make him take me to his room so then he can start envisioning me in his room or something.

And I was like, that is some psychology 101. You did the studies.
Yeah. And it proved to work.
Well, something that excited me yesterday, I really had a craving for Taco Bell. So I ordered it last night.
And I don't know if you are following Taylor Frankie Paul. But she posted a while back on TikTok that she goes to Taco Bell, gets a Baja blast and then brings it home and makes it dirty by adding coffee creamer to it.
Well, genius. That sounds insane.
It's so good. And they do it with the frozen slushy version of it.
I had it last night. Mind blown.
But she has a collaboration with Taco Bell. So it is like for her.
And they gave her an award for that. She has the menu hack of the year.
And she received that over the weekend. And let me tell you, it was game changing for me.
I love the Baja Blast. How do I get a collaboration with Chick-fil-A? You kind of have to start posting your obsession with Chick-fil-A.
Or like, do your own, like, what do you add to yours? What do you take off? Like, what's the sauce? What's the recipe? And then maybe get your own sandwich. Like, get Natalie's way.
Right. DM the brand.
But they're kind of problematic. Yeah, 100%.
Well, yes, definitely. Yes, definitely.
I just want to point it out. No, they are.
I also think they're overrated chicken sandwiches, by the way. I'm also convinced that Taco Bell is owned by stoners because I'm like, everything that comes on their menu just makes me think that it's like somebody just sat there and was like, what if we made a taco out of Doritos? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, it's just such high food. They'll put cheese on cheese.
I don't eat Taco Bell, but I see those photos and I'm like you know what we're gonna do a Mexican pizza but then we'll do a Crunchwrap and what if we put the tortilla around the Mexican pizza Crunchwrap Supreme I'm sorry food for stoners by stoners tell me I'm wrong and I don't even like Taco Bell that much so I don don't have a problem. Up next, we have a very hilarious comedian.
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What is one thing that you're passionate about that people don't think that you are? No, no, no. I'm just asking you.
Mine is people not walking on a sidewalk when there's a sidewalk to walk on. It's frustrating.
The bikers, especially, when they have their own dedicated bike lane. Yeah.
Ooh, I got one for you.

Yeah.

And it's specifically against comedians,

not you specifically.

Oh, my God.

I love it.

Perfect.

Nobody hates comics more than comics.

So, yeah.

And I'm definitely more like,

I kind of like that I feel like culturally,

not to trigger anyone,

I feel like we're allowed to be a little more funny these days.

You know, you have some dark humor, some raunchy humor almost all yeah it's real i quite enjoy it um but like listen you know comedy it's an art form you know yeah and as i've been told by comics but every once in a while such a lead up i want to yeah every once in a while every once in a while and there might be people online or or people in podcasts like maybe critiquing a comment or just being like, I didn't find that funny. And then some comics will be like, you know I'm a comic, right? Babies.
They're such babies. And I'm just like, I don't give up.
Yeah, I know you're a comic. And I guess I didn't.
First of all, I didn't know that was a joke. Sorry.
And I guess I didn't know everything you say falls under the category of I'm fucking joking. And they take themselves real too seriously.
Oh, they're such babies. I'll tell you.
It's like, it's okay. I'll tell you what I'm talking about after we get done recording.
Okay. Yeah.
Okay, that's smart. Keep the drama down.
That's my favorite person ever. Yeah.
We already triggered them. We're dating.
You know where comics fucked up is that they said like, we're just joking, we're just then they got super serious and political and then the audience like well how do i know when you are joking literally yeah yeah and then it's always like and is if they ever get it like criticism it's but i'm a comic yeah it's like okay i prefer like in a live show somebody leaves angry like you suck and they leave you just kind of watch them go i mean they're not wrong anyway it's like i mean your your opinion's fine you're right in in the way that some celebrities hold on to their humanity yeah and how most lose it yeah like and you give an example chapel roan telling fans that they need to leave her alone at the supermarket versus taylor swift breaking up with her boyfriend because dumb fans got worked up over a joke about someone else's fake stage name. I don't remember the Taylor Swift one.
Taylor Swift was dating the guy from 1979. Oh, yes.
And he made a joke on a podcast that's not around anymore, Mullen and Stavros' podcast, about Ice Spice. And he was like, oh, is she like an Eskimo rapper? But she's not.
He just called herself Ice Spice. And she broke up with him.
The he was like oh is she like an eskimo rapper but she's not she's he just called herself ice spice so the internet was like that's um i guess racially insensitive but he's like she's not she's not that like i don't know whatever and then they went out and then taylor swift's like yeah i'm all a product so you're out yeah're out. I'll just date a different product.

To get bigger, yeah.

Immediately after.

Yeah, immediately after.

So you love Chapel Rhone being like,

I'm not.

Yeah, leave me alone, I'm not working.

You get me when I'm on stage

and you get my music.

And then I'm a human.

Because she just got famous,

so she hasn't been removed from her humanity yet.

She went to zero to a million.

She got so famous.

Like that.

So she's still living in her head

in that I'm just a normal person world. Who wasn't recently? Was it like Scarlett Johansson? I think maybe that's wrong, but was like, I only take photos with fans in professional settings.
Like, I will not take a photo with a fan if I'm just like getting a coffee. That's pretty good.
Because I don't want people to know like where I am. Like, it was like, you don't deserve.
I get it like billy eilish still lives at home with her parents and the house she grew up in dork move out and get an apartment at least you can afford a one bedroom if i can you can get some cabinet space lady why don't why aren't you watching reality tv i feel like it would be really good like because I'll get hooked material it's the same reason i don't do like fantasy football it'll be all my time i watched one season survivor and i was like i couldn't turn it off it's so it's so hard it's fine i do like it it's trash but like it's fun trash like it's like uh uh fast and furious so are you america's sweetheart i am? I am I'm the nicest guy in America How did you come up with that title for your special? Because everybody hates me But I'm trying to get people to stay positive Do you think everyone hates you? No, but I try to go dark You do go dark Yeah, sometimes people are like, what a terrible person Did you get much heat for that COVID joke? Which COVID one?

Which one?

You talked about everything has a silver lining.

Yeah.

Like COVID.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And you're like, some people died, but some of them are-

Some of them are complete-

Complete cuts.

Yeah, some of them are fucking shitty people.

You know you wish death on some people 10 years ago, and then they died in a new way.

They weren't aware of, so it's like, great. I didn't imagine it that way but i'll take it yeah remember going outside during covid and just like walking in the middle of ventura and like no one's gonna come hit you it was eerie it was like that in new york too and you're like you take the best pictures you can literally stay in the middle of fifth avenue yeah yeah you don't take cars out there's just no one there it's pretty nice are you a part- No, no.
I was wondering why you're doing photo shoots in the middle of the street. Oh yeah.
Just cause you could, I guess. Yeah.
It was like, this is a cool pick. Part time influence.
Is that a thing? Part time influencers. I love it.
Have you done any jokes about being a son of a Holocaust survivor or is that like way too far? Yeah. Yeah.
How does does, mother, father? Dad. Dad.
Yeah, grew up in Romania. Thank God he was pretty far east.
Does he find them funny or? Yeah, he understands like the, there's two ways to go about like dark jokes, taking them. It's either like this is awful or like, oh, they know it's awful.
That's why it's funny. Taking light or something.
Right. If you make fun of like dropping your slice of pizza, it's just not that funny because it's not that bad.
but if you make fun of like the Holocaust then it's like it's awful that's why it's funny taking light of something right if you make fun of like dropping your slice of pizza it's just not that funny because it's not that bad but if you make fun of like the holocaust then it's like it's like oh making light of that is like it's such you know so different than how you should react so he gets it he's like you're actually showing out he's not at home like crying because the sun doesn't understand what he's been through yeah the people who get upset at comedy jokes is really it's just because it's a new art form form. So like people don't quite know how to take it.
And they're like, it's you speaking about your own feelings with your own name versus like a naked lady painting is like, we know by now that's not an actual naked lady. But then even like, I don't know, when photography got big, people were like, this is smut, remember that? And it was like, no, it's not.
It's just like a black and white photo of a naked dude with a nice dong.

With a huge dick.

But no one's actually coming for the dong.

It's for the lighting and stuff.

It's in sepia.

It's a beautiful car.

Yeah, sepia dong, yeah.

Sepia dong should be a name in someone's podcast.

Are you currently watching Sex and the City or the new one?

The old one.

Oh, thank God.

And I am loving it.

Okay.

I assume you guys have seen it? Oh, yeah. Obviously.
It's the worst written show possibly of all time. I can forgive them for writing men terribly because it's not about the men.
On purpose. It's about these women and their friendships.
But which one are you? I will tell you, I used to hate the redhead and then I realized finally, after seeing the new ones. Oh, I'm a Miranda.
You're a Miranda. Yeah, I'm starting to like her.
No, she's the only one who makes any fucking sense. She's the redhead.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And why does she make sense? Because she's not a fucking hypocrite.
She's not like Carrie. The worst friend.
Worst friend. Worst friend in the world.
The worst friend. Anytime somebody's like, oh my God, I'm having a terrible time.
And she's just leafing. She's like, I know, right? Somebody stood you up, just leafing through letters.
Anyway, so I'm out of cigarettes. Can you believe it? And he was like, no, this is your friend's moment.
And she will bulldoze through anyone in the name of getting her way with Big. Oh my God.
And it's like, he's a bad guy. Were you team Aiden or team Big? mean i think they both should have just murdered her also the guy was like you're just constantly starting fights with me i see it from big side but also like he's not the guy for you the first time she broke up with him when they were going on vacation and they're on the sidewalk and and she like wants i think was it she wanted a commitment or something and like two weeks of dating two way too early he's taking her on a trip and because he's and then she's like well no then i'm just not going and it's like and he's just like what lady i mean her blowjobs must have been so epic for him to put up with that and every time he comes over he's like we're late let's go and she's like i'm getting ready i can't pick out which shoes i want and then he lights up a cigar which is like an hour and a half smoke and i'm like you're already late this is this doesn't make any sense.
We definitely don't have time for that. Yeah, like, what are you doing? She just shows up to where his parents are.
I'm like, this is out of line, lady. You can't be doing this.
Did you watch the new one or no? It was pretty brutal. Once Big died, Big did right away.
Spoiler alert. Immediately, the first episode is the Peloton death scene.
No like no we're i mean they really completed her like being terrible in general because she just watched him die and didn't even she's like oh you're still oh okay that did rock me i was like crying i think for the rest of the day being like you can't ever get on a peloton please you're this age well i am older so it's immediately like, you know, trauma from like dating an older man. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm sure you've been there. You must be like, yeah, okay, this could happen.
Yeah. Someday.
And did you know that a new study just came out that- Apparently I'm six times more likely to have heart attack. Marijuana smokers are six times more likely to have heart attack.
What? But we're chill. Not chill enough, clearly.
What? Oh, it's because we run out of weed. We get real upset.
Yeah. And you get like bad anxiety and you get like itchy.
Six times more likely? Six times. But I said more than what? That's hard to believe.
More than what? The average person. What is the average? He's not smoking.
Because I said zero times six is still zero. Damn, that's good math.
But it is at the end of the day just math. And it doesn't make any sense in the story.
Who's the zero? Six times six is still zero. Damn, that's good math.
But it is at the end of the day, just math. And it doesn't make any sense in the story.
Who's the zero? Six times more likely than someone who isn't already predisposed to cardiovascular events. Still don't know what that means.
Yeah, what's cardiovascular? Is that even a word? That's because you've smoked so much weed. It's fucking up the brain cells in your head.
My grandfather and dad have had heart attacks. So, yeah.
So, technically it's double. Oh, my God.
My father wasocaust survivor and almost none of them smoke weed and they didn't live long so really i can live longer get there get there get there okay uh he wrote what we asked wait wait wait there's more on sex in the city okay okay she's a sex columnist in not the 1930s, in the 90s to 2000s. And she's like, a threesome? Could I? What? In New York fucking city.
She's the most prudish person in the goddamn world. She also has a very small column and a very nice apartment control department.
Uh-huh. A brownstone at that.
Yeah. She's on a bus.
She's on a bus. She's on a fucking bus.
Yeah, she's popular. And she's the only one who won't show her boobs the whole show.
That's separate. That's an actor thing, not the character.
And that's a personal gripe you have. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, Samantha is... Some could say too nude.
Yeah. No.
None could say that that no bad naked for you? you didn't watch that sign up episode? listen girls had some bad nudity the show girls? the show girls yeah it was like alright Lena chill we get it not every episode you can do it once in a while you're brave not every fucking episode Somebody told her she was brave after the first season. She's like, I'm going to brave every eight minutes.
Like, no one's this naked. I'm not that naked around my own apartment.
No one's there. Put a robe on.
Do something. Who cooks eggs with their fucking pussy out? Sorry, I'm getting too dirty for this podcast.
I apologize. I'm a bad person, you guys.
That's crazy. Do you refer to a pussy as a pussy almost never oh like if you're talking to like a girlfriend when is the few times that you just right here it's come out of my mouth way more i usually call it a vagina with a b yeah why the beat it makes it more stupid okay yeah yeah do you want me to go down on your vagina Vagina, yeah most of the time the answer is no don't you think yeah once you say vagina they're like grow up but i'm like oh my god you're like deliberately trying to give them the ick so you don't have to yeah yeah you're red wings fan so what that is who's red wings hockey team uh-huh what's that on your neck Oh, it's because I lost my child.
So I got a wing for it. Fuck.
For my baby that I lost. Really? Sorry.
Yeah, you want to dive in the matter? I got a matching one, too. Really? You want to unpack or? Nope.
Sorry. No, please.
Anyway. That made everything else feel like a little less violating.
Yeah. Once something gets too real, I'm like, I've lost the chance.
All right, I'm out. It was fun to see you get a little awkward there.
Are there moments when you're on stage and you, can you see your audience or are you those? It's like, turn the lights up, right? I don't want to see. Yeah, first couple rows you can see see and then it just disappears do you look for their facial work or is that necessary in your line of profession when you're dark nah you can do it if you want but it's like everyone's trying to do it now it's kind of like hacky i try to go the other way so you don't want to see their facial expression i'll see it and i want to see if they're having a good time but he's just not you're he's not yeah well something like yeah like to to ari's point like it's like a bit now it's like a thing that they're it's part of their act to do some crowd work yeah everyone's like it used to just be like when you got to it it happened it happened you know so we dropped a tray of drinks you're like let's make fun of it or somebody shows up in something like weird but yeah i can see them it's nice when they're having a good time but sometimes you see like and then you just like keep going yeah i gave it up for some lady at the comedy store once what oh i said anytime i go to a comedy show i try to sit in the back because i'm like i don't want to i don't want to be a subject of your comedy yeah i just want to enjoy i saw some lady the comedy show like this the whole time so 55 60 year old lady she was like like snarling face and just like but she was quiet the whole time kept looking at her her husband her boyfriend whatever was was into it and i kept i kept doing it.
And then I was like, all right, I'm done. And then I was like, before I go though, hey lady, I just want to give some props here.
You hated me, right? She goes, yeah. And I'm like, okay, fair.
But you kept your mouth shut the whole time. You didn't disrupt the show.
And it's okay to have your tastes and likes and dislikes, but you handled it so well. Guys, let's give her a round of applause for handling it well with her distaste.
And then she's like, yeah. But that's all we want.
She did her rounds. Let us all enjoy.
I appreciate it. I love how you didn't feel the need to remind her that it's an art and you're a comedian.
It's okay to not like. Yeah, like what you're saying.
I'm not gonna be a baby about it. It's all right.
I get it. It's not for everybody.
At what point did you realize you were funny? Like enough to do it in front of people um i yeah i don't know fourth grade never or yeah i was getting thrown out of class oh you were always that was like he's talking too much yeah i was i was like annoying did you ever have to take tests like outside like i was my teacher would have to put like desks outside of the door so you have to like take take a test out there so that you didn't like disrupt. You guys Jewish? Are you Jewish? 9%.
9% Jewish. Well, if you were over 50%, what you do is you just pay a doctor to say your child is learning disabled and then you could take untimed tests at home and get better grades and SATs.
So did she. Yep.
Do whatever you want to get ahead. I got extra time for sure.
I could use extra time. I'm just.
Yeah, we all could have. I can't fucking read.
Yeah, that would have helped then the extra time. Yeah.
Juice. No, it's juice.
Oh. Juice.
Oh, okay. What is this axing? What is this word? Yeah, Jews got untimed tests.
It's great. There's white privilege.
And then there's another thing that we don't like to talk about. It's Jewish privilege.
It is. Alea, what's so funny? She knows it.
She got all the same privileges. What school did you go to? It's called Shalhavet.
Oh, that's a Hebrew school. Very Jewish school.
Very Jew-y. No, I'm talking about college.
Oh, USC. USC? U of SC? University of Southern California.
Southern California. Is that how you guys say it? Oh, USC I went to Yeshiva That's nice Yeah, untimed tests It's great, what a privilege Did you feel You can say anything Can I ask me about my child? I'll take it back.
Yeah. Have you ever? I've had some on-purposes.
On-purposes. You don't get a tattoo for the on-purposes.
You just give a heart a handshake and get her a cigarette to make sure. Go on your way.
That's for the on-purposes purpose thank God for the liberal laws in America why are you watching animal attack videos do you want to talk about that my algorithm got me or the ski videos yeah what's your you ever catch your algorithm just grabs you and takes you to a place yeah yeah and it's sometimes it's a really strange place yeah yeah yeah I went from there was I went from, there was a dock in Santa Clarita that caved a couple months ago. It just washed away.
Some guy was on it, but it stayed intact, and they had to rescue them. I was like, oh, weird.
And then from then on, it just went natural disasters. It was like, oh, you must love that disasters.
And then it pulled that into animal disasters. I was just watching puppy videos, and they're like, what about if it went wrong? And I'm like, oh.
and then it pulled that into animal like disasters i was just watching puppy videos and like what about it went wrong and i like oh and then it's like okay fine you don't like the puppies getting killed but how about like lions attacking tigers you're like okay you just click on it once and then it's all it takes you now every time i'm on a hike i'm so fearful like i hear a squirrel i'm like wow it's a bobcat I'm being tailed well that's because

it says here

that you do drugs

while you hike

I do do drugs

so maybe

that's accurate

that sheet never lies

yeah

I do do drugs

maybe it's more

the drugs

than the TikTok

algorithm in your head

yeah

I mean

I mean

that's the heart attacks

that's the heart attacks

smoking weed

and nature

smoking weed

and doom scrolling.

Is it really even a drug?

Is it even a drug?

That's a valid question.

Well, if you're going to call weed a drug,

I have no problem with that.

But let's fucking call alcohol a drug.

You have to call alcohol a drug then.

Well, we're not.

There's also alcoholics.

That's drugs too.

We're deflectors.

Yeah, y'all are.

Yeah, because none of us go, it's not.

We just go, that is too.

Look at them.

It's not my fault I'm a better person when I'm chilled out.

More attentive to your child's needs.

Well, no.

No, we actually were talking earlier this episode how he leaves chewed up gum in random

places, like on surfaces, and our daughter will find it.

And chew it?

One time she did.

One time it was wrapped all around her hand.

She learned a valuable lesson

that day.

That's what I said.

What was that?

Don't smoke weed

and chew gum.

When she's older,

she'll remember

that lesson.

Just like,

put it down,

go,

wait,

wait,

oh,

core memory.

I'm going to throw that away.

That's true.

She's going to thank her father.

She's going to call you

not then,

but later.

I'm like,

Dad,

I never knew how much you were preparing me for life. Do you ever know any mushroom parenters? Mushroom what? Parenters.
Like they're microdosing? Yeah. Yeah.
You do? I do know a few of them. Thoughts, feelings, concerns? I'm okay with it, as long as they do little small amounts.
But also, you can see why it's scary. Why? Because sometimes you're just gone when you're on my show.
You're just like, I'm out. Illucinating.
And you don't need your kid just going, meh. One time Nally and I partook, watched 11 hours of Peaky Blinders while in our hot tub, and then Nally was doing somersaults in the pool.
Yeah. And then passed out naked on our floor while our dog ate the steak that we left on the table that we didn't eat.
Before kids. This was before children.
Dude, PK and post-K is so different. And then you'll remember your PK lives.
And you're like who was that do you have kids no no but none that you wanted yeah i got yeah a couple a couple on purposes i just love that you said that with such conviction like yeah pre-kids live before post after post kids i was like oh my god it's he's he's so relatable like he's just like us like what was your pre-kid slept before post-kid slept. And I was like, oh my God, he's so relatable.
Like, he's just like us. Like, what was your pre-kid life? Wait, I do have a question.
You're a golfer. You were a golfer.
I was a golfer. You're not good anymore or you stopped? I was never good.
Oh. I was also, I played golf at Yeshiva University.
Yeah, I played golf there. I was, it was, we just needed people to play so anyone who had a golf bag could be on the team.
And I was, I believe the worst athlete in NCAA sports that year. Oh my God.
You play golf? No. My dad was the 11th longest drive hitter in the world one year.
Okay. I shot a 143 in competition.
I know enough about golf to know that's not good.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You want to be around a 70, just below 70.

The other team was laughing.

My own coach was laughing at me.

Yeah.

You just kept, but you played through.

I was on the team.

Yeah.

I played through it.

Yeah.

I mean, they had to keep supplying the balls.

I don't have the patience for golf.

It's after like nine holes.

I'm like, fuck this shit.

I'm also a little too competitive because I'm not like, I'm good enough to never been taught golf that i can like hit it seven hours straight great like that's all so i can i can keep up with like the average golfer but like when my golfing buddies it's cereal gets yeah and i'm just like i don't guys i don't give a fuck you're also not a big drinker which i feel like that just like goes hand in hand with golfing 15 hours. It made golfing better when I stopped caring about the rules and had a couple nips or just got high.
And then be like, hey, I'm not feeling this hole. I'm just going to go with you guys.
Where's that part? I can't even see the hole from here. My score doesn't matter.
We're just having fun, right? Yeah, we're just having fun. I'm going to go on a little hike in the woods and meet you guys.
Yeah. My friend's husband's really big golfer and it's like they do like betting and all that stuff.
And so like anytime my boyfriend goes with him, I'm like, you're not not betting. You're going to lose.
You're going to lose. They're just literally stealing money from you at this point.
Yeah. How did you end up getting a job at the Arlington Cemetery? Yeah, I used to.
You have a fixation with dead people? I do now. I used to lay pipe.

You're sick.

At the cemetery.

Yeah, I don't know.

Somebody I knew,

knew somebody was hiring.

I was 16, my first job.

That's your first job?

Yeah.

What does one do?

You lay pipe.

I was a horticulturalist.

I watered the flowers around the tomb of the unknown soldier.

I put out the eternal flame once.

I forgot about that. That might be treasonous oh my god yeah yeah how did what how generally had to pick up pipes like like it would go like hand mail the female and lay them down on these long fields and then like let them go and the sprinklers and then when they were done like you did put them back in the truck and then take them to the next field and lay them out but sometimes if you were good you got like wand duty and it was just a hose with a magic wand at the end it went up and then kind of down so like that so then you just walk like you know watering the all the beautiful flowers outside i went to national cemetery it's gorgeous and then i didn't screw it on tight enough and then the magic the magic wand came off just popped off and this like shoot of water just went straight up into the eternal flame like what did you do it went out i mean i was like i'm gonna get hung there's all these like tourists there and they're kind of looking up i can see them looking up what the word eternal means because they're like maybe i got it wrong and then there's a yeah i was like i'm fucked did you like call your boss and be like hey there's there's a i think there's a like a a little like you know pilot light and it went back on but for like two minutes i was like oh this is really bad yeah that the marines are there like walking right nearby tomb of the young.
Oh my God. Yeah.
But it was fun. We used to take naps in the open graves because it was cool in there.
No one was in there yet. So it wasn't really rude to anybody.
It was not a soldier yet. So do you want to be breaking it in? Breaking it in, exactly.
Making sure it's comfortable for these heroes. Would you say that you would like to be buried or cremated? Okay.
Good question for all of us, by the way. I say cremated and then given to certain parts to different people who might want it, different groups of my friends.
Would you feed it to your dog? I had never thought of it before. Neither have I until the beginning of this episode when I found out Leia, who just had a child.
Well, no. The umbilical cord.
No, did not feed ashes to my dog. But apparently it's a family tradition in her husband's family that when their child's umbilical cord falls off, I don't know if you know this, as a parent, you know, you have a baby and he ties it up.
And then like a week later it dries up like a raisin and pops off. And like a lot parents later normal like just keep it or do something with it and leah feeds it to her dog really did your dog go for such a good boy today it's like a treat like a special treat was it i mean you can't do that she only has one i've only had one kid but wow what i mean i was i take back the question i was gonna ask what kind of dog what does it matter that doesn't have any if this is a court case you're like irrelevant your honor irrelevant to the thing it could be a pomeranian or german shepherd none of that matters all of it is gonna eat that and was it into it well she ate it you know she probably didn't even taste it.
It was just like. Yeah.
It was very crunchy. Oh, because it dried up? Can I just say boo on this? Do you regret it now that we made you feel bad for it? A little bit, yeah.
I should have kept it. That was a keepsake for sure.
What about the placenta thing where the men eat the placenta? I was offered it. You were? Immediately turned it down.
I'm definitely not one of those dads who's like trying to enjoy the whole experience. The whole experience.
Just let me know when my kid's here. It's really good for you though.
Oh right, you don't wanna see that. I'm front and center, I'm holding her hand.
Front and center, you were not front and center. You didn't see it.
No, no, I was, I was, no. You were the complete opposite of front and center.
The doctor was like, hey, do you wanna help deliver the baby? I was like, you got this shit. You went to school.
I'm good. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
Why look at it? He was behind Natalie holding her hand over. You got this, babe.
You're doing great. Yeah.
Yeah. I was like, I don't.
For what reason? Here's a finger. For what reason to see it that way? He also refused to try my breast pump out before me, which I felt like.
Pump your own to pump his breast? Well, I was nervous to use it. I was like, what if it hurts? You know, I was a little scared.
I'd never used a breast pump before. Yeah.
So I was like, listen, could you test it out and just let me know if it's painful? I said no. And he refused.
Agreed. Why? Why would, you're gonna have to do it.
You'll never have to do it. But don't you feel like as, in a relationship, you should just should just go through things together when you must if you're on vacation and it's raining it's raining for both of you but if if you're off i don't know golfing with friends and it's raining you don't call her and say i need you to step outside i need you to also get wet needlessly so you you like you don't want to feel the contractions you don't want to be talking about i get a punch in the face because they're like i'll get a nurse to punch me every once in a while in the dick so i can feel what it's like no i'm sorry you're going through this but you know just walk around the block and whatever clothes you're on that'll your iPhone.
So we can connect somehow. This is a Carrie kind of test.
Carrie would absolutely make big, try all the shit. What a lunatic.
And then she walks by his wedding. Oh, is this where your wedding was that time? Oh, I just was walking in New York.
I just happened to go by, oh, this lady. So you wouldn't want to be front and center.
You're not interested in being a part of it. I got an ingrown toenail taken out.
And he's like, you want to watch it? I'm like, nope, no need to see this. I'm just looking around the room every other way.
Yeah, you're trained. You got it.
He's trained. I was like, I'll get you back later.
And I have. In what way? How have you gotten her back?

I've done things for you and our child.

Oh, for me?

I thought you were talking about for our doctor.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, our doctor?

No.

I paid her.

Yeah.

That was a hefty hospital bill for sure.

Yeah, she asked me if I wanted to help.

I was like, do I get a discount for that?

You know?

I was like.

Yeah.

If I don't have enough money for the check, have to wash dishes do your job doc sew it up there was um a video that went viral of a woman who was in the middle of giving birth and it's like the husband's filming i guess and all you can see is like you can't see anything but like the tops of her knees and And there's like a nurse on the other side of her. And you can hear the doctor going like, okay, you're going to tear.
So I'm probably just going to have to cut. And as soon as she says it, the doc, the nurse makes that face.
And it's on film. That's her first day.
And they're like, why would the nurse make that face? Yeah. Like you've never, you've never seen this before yeah like i the the patient the mom who's in labor is like is that gonna hurt and she looks over at the nurse the nurse like oh i don't think so she's like i don't know that's gonna fuck you up yeah we're gonna tear your vagina it's gonna for sure hurt did you do that you did the pushing one or the cutting i did the well i don't think my mom thought that they like just cut everyone now a days you know it was like that's normal that's how they get the baby out is just to cut you right open and i was like no no no slice it on the middle that's a c-section yeah talking about like cutting your vagina to make it wider to make it come out there's three kinds slicing cutting and pushing and scissoring so um no my mom was like they're gonna like they do it to everyone it's just easier to get the baby out and i was like no no nowadays you do perineal massages to lubricate the area in which, which is basically like a gooch massage.

It's like the same logic as before you have anal.

Yeah.

Can you imagine like the 1920s doing anal with just some like spit?

For barbarians.

No plugs.

Nothing.

For KY.

I thought you lost your anal virginity to me.

Oh my God. So I'm going to have to put in my 30 days.
I'm learning too much on the show. Where is HR? Where is HR? I'm going to be rocking in a shower later.
You know, friends say we can talk about this stuff while we're podcasting Listen it's all a bit It's all stand up And all of this is a joke How bad did it hurt Which one The anal or giving birth to the baby Now both I will now say both Yeah which one hurt worse Because you don't't get numbing. Honestly, if I could get epidural for anal, I would do it every day of my life.
I heard anal described as like you're trying to shit out a house. If you could get epidurals, you would do anal every day.
Honestly, the epidural is the best part about giving birth other than meeting my child for the first time.

Wow.

Yeah.

You should try epidural

for your next hike

or live music festival.

I 100% will.

Give me that Michael Jackson stuff

and an epidural.

They basically give you this thing, right?

Yeah.

It's like a large knee on your back

and then going forward,

they give you a remote control.

It's like,

imagine having a remote control

for your drugs,

whatever your drugs are, and it's like, you can a remote control for your drugs, whatever your drugs are,

and it's like, you can push this button

as much as you want.

You can't OD because you're good.

Just more or less, higher or lower?

There's just a more button.

You stop hitting it if you feel like-

It won't let you OD.

It won't let you OD.

Wow.

The second I was like, I think I feel my toes more.

Yeah.

So at any point, you can just make sure

you're at maximum high. Yeah.
Is that what you're- Yeah. You're just always like, just keep doing this.
Yeah. I got her to sleep.
Just hit this for me. Yeah.
Wow. Crazy.
And then you couldn't feel it. Could you push out? Yeah.
All you feel is like pressure, but you don't feel any... So you're just kind of like...
I mean, they tell you, they're like, you're going to push for 10 seconds. And so you just like hold a push for 10 seconds.
And then they're like see her head and it's like wow i guess i'm doing i mean we got very lucky with very little complicate with no complications so you know not the same for everyone but it was shockingly like like it happened real fast that part yeah all like push push push she's out and then out yeah did it did it make this noise um you know there was so much going on in the room. I don't recall.
If Nick would have been down there, he could have listened. Yeah, I'm with you.
Why watch it? Why watch it? But also, curiosity. I'd watch someone else's.
They got to do like a Strangers on a Train situation. I've seen the sex ed videos back in the day.
And I imagine some something like that do you just have to shave before honestly i thought about that i said hmm should i get like a wax or shave before and then i said well wax is painful like i don't need to go through that right now i'm about to go through birth the epidural though if i can get the wax they should all have that the brazilian place should just have an epidural while we're here while you're why you can't feel anything yeah call in your wax yeah yeah so then i was like i guess i could shave and then i was like well that feels like a lot of open wounds like you know what if i cut myself oh yeah and then like that just felt like it was little so i just gave her a jungle to fight through yeah right sometimes they sometimes they shave it themselves the nurses The nurses will be like, oh my God, we got to get in here. And they have a little disposable razor.
Would you have done that out of a- Would you have shaved me? I think I said no. I meant like if she's like, I have to shave for this, can you please also shave your D? The hair? Yeah.
No, your dick off. We'll meet you there.
Yeah, I'll meet you there. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Every once in a while i'm like this is getting crazy like yeah i'll do it once once every couple years same this is getting crazy i'm like i can't see anything down there i should probably take control is that gum how long has i been there? They don't still make Big Red. Juicy fruit.
Ari, this has been a ton of fun. It has been.
You guys rule. I think you're my favorite married couple.
Oh my God, I've been recording this for 14 minutes. Oh, really? That's also a pet peeve.
How easy it is to accidentally record a voice note and accidentally send it to someone via text. Oh.
Oh. I did it last night.
I got off stage, record your sets on there, and then I got off and I thought I hit stop, and then I talked a lot of shit about people with my friend, and then I was like, ooh. I just delete the whole file.
So easy to send to your friend. Ari, it's so much fun.
It's a great title for a Burke. Thank you.
Don't do it. Burke.
Thank. Burke.
Thank you. I thought I could skate by that.
You don't want to go. This makes me feel good.
You want to stay. Don't text your ex.
Happy birthday. Solid advice.
The next flip special is America's Sweetheart. It's out right now.
It's very funny. If you want to laugh about things that make you feel like maybe you should or shouldn't laugh about it, but it's also really also funny and it is just comedy.
thank you it's okay check it out thanks buddy i feel like anytime we have a comedian i just open up way too much i learned a lot you could say that this segment was educational i feel like with heather mcmahon i opened up about like things i definitely shouldn't have it's like we just well what do they say like you know usually comedy stems from like dark childhood trauma

yeah there's that whole... Well, it's that whole thing that's like why I'm funny is because X, Y, and Z happened to me.
Learn to laugh or else I cry. All I could think is crowd work is afraid of Natalie because she banters.
Well, we just want to thank our guests, Jason and Melanie, as well as Ari for joining us. Be sure to follow them and check out their work as well.
Oh, and if you haven't already, be sure to check out the Barbie for a Going Deeper episode that dropped yesterday. It's a really great one, especially for all you Euphoria fans.
She's got a really excellent new movie called. Bob Trevino likes it.
Be sure to check to check that out as well next week we got the Bachelor finale and we will be interviewing your runner up which I think will be juicy I think maybe this finale might be worth you guys tuning into that will be with us next Wednesday for Going Deeper and obviously we will talk about the finale a little bit on

Tuesday's recap. So much more coming

ahead. Excited to bring it to you.

We'll see you then. Bye.