E997 - Bravo Spill Sesh w/ Justin Sylvester, The Paper w/ Ramona Young, Philly Baseball Karen, RHOC & RHOM

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What's going on, everybody?

Welcome back to another exciting episode of the Valve Files Reality Recap Edition.

I am your host, Nick.

I have learned how to say 1,000.

Yep.

Congratulations.

You put your tongue on the bottom of your teeth, bottom teeth, and emphasize the Z.

Thousands.

So speech class is working.

Natalie.

What?

Natalie.

Natalie.

I don't know if that was that hard for you beforehand.

Well, we welcome all of you to the show.

Hope you had a great week.

And I had a fantastic week.

And fall is in the air.

The seasons are changing

in most parts of this country.

And the part that we were in, it was a delightful brisky, 50 degrees out in the morning.

And football season is upon us.

My Green Med Packers are really, really good.

Very exciting.

Mary, your Aaron Rodgers look pretty good.

Yeah, I gotta, I gotta say, I, I was a little hesitant.

It feels very odd to have Aaron Rodgers be the quarterback of the Pittsburgh Steelers, but not mad at it.

Not mad at it whatsoever.

It's really exciting.

I'm living my best life.

My brewers, I don't know who...

listening cares, but I'm excited.

My wife watches sports with me.

It's really, it's really great.

It's one of my favorite things.

One of my two favorite things about Natalie of many, but just one of two.

Again, that she, she enjoys, she enjoys spending the time with me.

She doesn't fake her interest.

Like, she's not one of those who like pretends to be like a major sports fan, but she just enjoys the energy and also the way she can nurse an alcoholic drink.

is incredible.

I made, uh, I made some, uh, we made braised short rib tacos.

So I, I, I got it all cooked up.

And to make some braised short ribs, uh, you have, you use some wine.

So I opened up some wine poured it in natalie decided to feel frisky cleaning the house at like noon poured herself an open bottle of wine yeah put herself a glass of wine she finished that seven hours later awesome it was really really attractive i was also cleaning in between and taking care of a child and you know so i didn't really have the time to like gulp but yes i i do nurse a drink i i do also think some people won't agree with you that fall is in the air like i feel like a lot of people say that fall doesn't start until october well in our house it starts as soon as natalie goes to target and buys some Halloween decor, which is all over.

I went to HomeGoods this year because Target had nothing, Flint Piggins.

And HomeGoods, honestly, like, it's just the place to go for holiday decor.

First of all, it's like not expensive.

You know, it's not crazy expensive.

Their prices have actually kind of gone up recently, but you can find like the fun things for kids.

They have like, you know, River's obsessed with cats.

And so I could, I found a cat in a witch's hat and she's like, loves it.

She's like, meow, meow.

Like, she loves it and so it was just like fun to finally decorate for i feel like once you become a mom to decorate for holidays it's just like so much fun yeah because you can just like go crazy anyways my packer's looking good uh rip to the detroit lions fans out there i feel like you missed your window and uh ladies out there if if you're in the michigan area and you're if your man or brother or whoever in your life maybe it's you i don't know is a is a fan of the detroit lions ask them if they're worried if they missed their window because i think someone actually messaged me the last time we did this.

I wish I could find her name.

If you're listening to this, I'm sorry.

But she was like, this did not work.

Whenever Nick was like, text your man this, she like sent me a screenshot of her texting her boyfriend or husband or partner or whatever.

And he literally was like, what are you even saying?

Like, shut up.

You don't know what you're talking about.

And she was like, wait, this backfired.

She had to sell it.

No, he just, he sounds like a dick.

He sounds like a dick.

No, I just don't think he like believed that she was like committed to the bit.

Yeah.

I feel like he probably thought she heard it.

She probably thought she heard it on a podcast.

He probably was like, What guys have you been hanging out with?

Yeah, like, who have you been around?

She's like, hey, this backfired.

So now he thinks I'm cheating and he broke up with me.

Who here was a Lamb Before Time fan?

I was.

Me, so sad, though.

Very sad, very emotional movie.

I introduced it to River last night.

She's into it.

Very exciting.

Tree stars, The Great Valley.

Long necks and three horns.

Yep.

wait, yep, yep.

Wait, what is everyone's favorite dinosaur?

Go.

Triceratops.

Huge.

Yep.

Probably a triceratops.

You know, I don't have one.

I don't either, but I love it.

I love a brontosaurus.

You know, that scene in Jurassic Park where Laura Dern sees that brontosaurus die.

It's a very impressive.

That's the one with the long neck.

That's a brontosaurus.

Or a bronchosaurus.

Bronchia.

Bronchi.

Bronchosaurus and Brontosaurus.

Yes.

Oh, my God.

Wait, this is reminding me of this crazy TikTok.

So I saw this TikTok of this mom sitting with her four-year-old daughter.

And the four-year-old daughter has like a binky in her mouth or something.

And the mom is like, since y'all wanted to come for me for my almost four-year-old, like still having a pacifier and like saying that her speech is going to be messed up for the rest of her life, like I'm here to prove to y'all that she speaks better than most 30-year-olds.

And so then she's like, what's your name?

And she starts like interviewing the little girl to like get her to speak for the camera.

Her daughter.

And then the, yeah, her daughter is like getting a little shy.

You know, she's not really answering many questions.

And she's like, don't be shy.

No one can see you.

Like, this is just a camera.

And then she's like, what are your favorite dinosaurs?

Triceratops?

And the girl like nods her head.

She's like, okay, can you say Triceratops?

And it's just like the most, like, you shouldn't have posted that.

Like, that did not prove to your point at all.

And like, like, the girl did speak.

And like, Rhoda has it too, you know, the little binky mouth.

I think it's actually kind of cute, the teeth, whatever.

Like, we're all going to get braces or Invisalign one day or veneers, you know.

Yeah.

So like, who cares?

But she, like, definitely, like, everyone in the comments is like, no, babe, like, her speech is fucked up.

Like, it's okay, but like, what are you doing trying to prove your point?

Like, it was just the saddest video ever.

She's like, coaching her through everything.

She's like, okay, now your turn to say it.

Did you guys see the Karen from Hell at the Philadelphia Marlins game that's gone super viral?

I just saw that this morning and I'm like, speaking of backfiring.

Yeah.

I mean, like, this is like the definition of horrible people out there

for those of you who don't know or who have been offline this weekend at a at a at a it was in it was in Florida so the Philadelphia Phillies were playing the Florida Marlins and apparently in Miami there are some Philadelphia fans and a young family uh brought their son to the game apparently it was his birthday

and they were in the outfield hoping to catch a home run, which for any parent or kid out there, like if you're going to a baseball game, you bring your your glove in the hopes that you can catch a foul ball.

I've never in my life caught a foul ball as a kid.

It was, it's a moment for any kid out there.

It's truly a magical moment.

Philadelphia Phillies were batting and wouldn't you know it, they hit a home run.

And it, you know, so the rules of it's like sports etiquette, it's like it's a, it's, it's a free-for-all, right?

And so this ball lands in the row in front of this Karen, you know, this, uh, like, I don't know how old old she was, but north of 50, Corella Deville haircut,

had the whole like ombre, like silver on top, black on the bottom.

She had the Karen glasses on.

The ball lands in front of her.

Do we have a video of this, Justin?

We do.

In case you're, if you're watching, if you're listening, go ahead and check out the YouTube.

Well, you've probably seen it.

Just like, just literally Google Karen.

And she's the number one trending Karen online.

The ball lands right in front of her.

Play it.

And pause it.

So now if you see, like, it lands right in front.

Like,

it's not in this woman's row.

It's a free-for-all.

This dad runs over from his seat.

Now he had to go about 20 feet from his seat.

The ball landed closer to Karen's seat than dad's seat.

Anyways, he got it.

He's excited.

Press play.

He picks it up, gives it to his son.

It's his birthday, hugs his son.

Karen runs over, grabs the dad.

Now, pause it.

In this moment, I don't know what you're thinking, what you're feeling.

Maybe she's mad that another middle-aged man stole the ball from her and she thinks she's entitled to it.

But in this moment where she sees the dad give the ball to the boy, any human being with half a soul would have been like, you know what?

Not my day.

You know, happy birthday to this kid.

But no, she proceeds to like argue with this guy, get in his face.

There's other angles of her just being like, you stole it from me.

It's my ball.

Like right in front of this little kid.

Finally, this dad's like, you know what?

I don't want to deal with your energy.

And he takes the ball from his son and gives it to the Karen, who like storms off like a fucking like Gollum from Lord of the Rings.

Like, she's got the ball.

Anyways, then like everyone around is booing her.

Everyone's just like knows how horrific this is.

Most of the time, you know, one of the most heart-roaming videos out there, and you can find it anywhere, are moments where these balls, home run balls, fall balls, whatever at baseball, baseballs go into the stands and like grown men catch the ball and they're excited and then they look around to find a kid and then give it to the kid and like make their day magical.

But this fucking Karen is so horrific that she just didn't care.

And then she starts flipping off people in the stand who are like, lady, you're a horrible, wretched person.

And she like didn't back down.

Meanwhile, now she's the most hated person in America.

But don't worry, this little boy, he's okay because, like, the Marlins, they saw this.

They came to him, someone who worked for the team.

They gave him a bunch of baseballs.

Then the Philadelphia Phillies found out about it.

And the very player who hit the home run met the kid's entire family, gave the kid a sign bat of baseball.

He's since been invited to the World Series by MLB, all because of this just wretched person.

And we just had the dad speak out, right?

Oh my God.

It's just like

the way he's going to be.

This is the kid getting a bag of like memorabilia from the Marlins.

It's just like, oh my God, like, what kind of horrible person do you have to be?

Wait, what did the dad say?

The dad said, I was already ecstatic.

Like, got Bader's home run ball and I get to put it in my son's glove.

And that was, it was already enough, you know, and then

here she comes.

Something touched my something touched my arm and then she just screamed in my ear that's my fall like so loud there was kind of a fork in the road like i'm gonna go one direction and then probably regret or go this direction and do something in front of my kids that you know like a teaching moment So I guess he was trying to be the biggest.

Some assholes online were criticizing the dad, but like, no, I think the dad handled it great.

Like, yeah, it was a definite, definitely a teachable moment about like how to not to be just a wretched, soulless, horrible person.

Yeah.

Like, if honestly, like, it's your

thing that was like shocking me is like, she's there with, we're assuming her husband, you know, a male friend, a male, someone close to her that she went to this game with.

And they're just like watching her not even just approach this man and his son who got the ball, but then like go scream in several other people's faces.

And it's like, how are you with that person?

I would like the way that I would hold on to Nick's hand and like keep him in a seat and be like, don't you dare get up.

And the way that he's just like, sure, go yell at them.

I guess

she did this at the Rays game.

Yeah.

Like, I don't know if this is her first offense.

Yeah.

So at a Marlins game, Ray's game.

Come again.

Nick made me, I was trying to read my book the other night and he made me watch 900 videos of people giving their ball away to the kids.

And I was like, it's heartwarming.

He's like, oh, wait, no, this is the one.

I'm like, okay.

Natalie, he wanted to make sure that he was never put in the position where he has to sit there while you steal balls

exactly literally i just like don't ever be no anytime we watch something or there's a story that comes out of like a wife turning crazy nick's always like please don't please don't go crazy and like how do you feel about this behavior and like don't well listen i get like all the ladies you know you got to have that mama lion energy you know for the right time you know natalie has it inside of her and i really appreciate it that it's there but like you know how to you need to know how to turn it off this like again i get that no I would have marched over there and be like, you took my, and then if he was like, if I watched him give it to his son, I would have been like, oh, it's for the kid.

Oh, never mind.

Well, first of all, baseball etiquette, like, she just doesn't know.

Like, she was not entitled to it just because it landed closer to her than anyone else.

Hey, you got to be quick on your feet.

You got to go get that ball.

Like, I think she said, you took it out of my hand.

But he literally didn't.

Like, she bent over and he snatched it from her.

And it was, it dropped in the row in front of her.

He did not take it out of her hand.

It doesn't look like he took it out out of her hand it looked like she was the closest to it she thought it was hers it was right there and then he came and took it before she could grab it there's also like multiple people reaching for this ball which is how it goes whoever leaves with it gets it have you guys ever seen 30 rock anyone yes this is very liz lemon coated like this seems like something that would happen to tina faze liz lemon where she would really try to get that ball and then she would become the most hated person in the world because of it you think liz lemon would have been a it was liz lemon a karen yes

Yeah, re-watch 30.

I mean, it's in a very funny way, but she's always getting herself into these situations where she's like, based on a technicality, I'm in the right.

And everyone was like, you suck.

That's kind of the thesis of 30 Rock.

Do y'all think Kyle's mom is okay?

Yeah, by the way, Kyle's mom, Karen, we love you and this is not about you.

I saw something kind of funny the other day where

Madison LaCroix from Southern Charm, she posted a video from her ring camera of the FedEx people.

She ordered like some huge box, fragile, and she shows them just like kicking the box over and just like leaving it like feet in front of her house.

And so she posted about it and she said, FedEx made contact after I unleashed my inner Janet.

And I think it's funny.

She's taking back Karen and changing it to Janet, like the Valley.

Well, did you notice

when Katie was on our Reality Recap last week?

She goes, there's another person.

And didn't name her.

And I was like,

crazy.

Damn it, Janet.

See, I don't think that's, I don't think that's being a Karen or a Janet, whatever you want to call it.

Like, sometimes,

you know, like, listen, if you, uh, if you're a solicitor, do not show up at our door because Nally will destroy you.

Yeah,

I will.

Yeah.

If River's napping, she'll destroy you.

And unfortunately, one got through the other day and he knocked on the door and I thought it was my brother-in-law.

And so I was like, excited, you know, like ran to the door, opened it.

And I was like, oh, and he was like, hey,

I'm not here to pitch you.

They always say that.

And then they continue to pitch you.

And I was like, oh, yeah, sorry.

We're.

And then River escapes through the front door.

And she's out now.

She's outside.

And I was like, oh, no, sorry.

And I like went to go get River.

And then she was like running away from me.

And so then I was like stuck out there with the solicitor who wouldn't like stop pitching while I'm like chasing River.

Do you have home insured?

And he's like, the pest control.

So yeah, like we'll get all the spiders, all the mosquitoes for only $150 a year.

And I'm like, oh, that sounds so cool.

Like, sure, yeah, come come by tomorrow.

He's like, all right, is it going to be credit or debit?

And I'm like, well, wait a second.

I'm not giving you any card info.

What?

And it was, yeah, so he caught me because it's

invaded someone's personal space or their home.

You got sometimes you got to defend your family.

And then what I love so much is that our neighborhood has a group chat.

And so I got to text the neighborhood.

It was finally my turn to text him and say, solicitor coming around about pest control.

And I'm going to work.

Neighborhood watch.

Yeah.

Anyways.

Oh, wait.

Did you guys hear White Lotus season four location announced?

And it is

France.

I can't wait.

Okay.

It's giving season four.

We're in France.

Somewhere.

Probably south of France.

You know, he likes a warm climate.

And says the French Riviera.

And I'm sure they'll do some things in the city, too.

It's always a four seasons, right?

So it has to be.

It's always a white.

It's always a white lotus.

Cap de luck or whatever, the big one.

They're based on four seasons.

I was just kind of continuing the idea of the show.

You know, I was in the world.

I wonder if Zoe Kravitz and Harry Styles are dating and are planning a vacation to France.

Nice.

Aren't they in Europe somewhere?

Canoodling?

Somewhere, yeah.

Probably.

Rich people.

She's really on it here.

She's what?

She's

dating Harry Styles.

She was hanging out with her co-stars.

No, her roster, Channing Tatum, Austin Butler.

Harry Styles.

Penn Badgley.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Wait, who else, though?

My dream date.

Cute.

Wait, let's see.

I looked up Zoe Kravitz's roster and it showed me her acting position.

No, we don't care about her acting.

Zoe Kravitz's body count.

Let's see.

This is Drake, Asaph Rocky.

Carl Glossman.

Chris Pine.

Chris Pine?

Sometimes I just feel like people will be putting things online because they were standing next to each other.

Wait, no, I feel like it's more recent.

No, there was someone else that was recent, right?

Yeah.

Carl Glessman was beautiful.

Channing Tatum.

Here's the thing.

When you're Lenny Kravitz and Lisa Bonet's daughter, she's doing the work of her.

Yeah, like that's what she should be doing is dating all of you.

What do you think a bad day looks like for her?

When more than one man texts her?

A bad day.

Honestly, a bad day for her is probably the best show in the world, which was Hulu's high-fidelity series starring Zoe Kravitz got canceled.

And I'm still really sad about it.

And I think Hulu should bring it back.

Michael Fassbender?

Michael Fassbender?

That's a crazy name.

He's hot too.

Penn Badgley, Chris Pine, Carl Gusman, Channing Tatum, and Harry Styles are all the people that she's rumored to have like.

And the thing about Channing Tatum is he got hotter when he started dating her.

Obviously.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I respect it.

She's hot.

They all do.

It's powerful.

Anyway.

Yeah.

I was like, even Harry Styles looks a little better to me with her.

Zoe Kravitz's boyfriend's list is trending on TikTok.

I mean, she's impressive.

Yeah.

And think about the people that like she didn't even actually like commit to being out in public with.

And she also just like looks so like obviously these men are hot.

Obviously Zoe Kravitz is hot, but like she just looks so cool all the time.

She's on the back of a motorcycle with Shani Tatum.

She's like, she's such a cool chick.

I know.

Do I have a motorcycle?

No.

Look at her.

No, no.

No.

So I should stick with the roller skates.

Yes.

We love that for you.

Those are my wheels.

And like Natalie Joy looked so badass on the back of Nick's roller skate.

Like I'm pulling her.

Yeah, you need to be on roller skates and just like holding on to Nick's like belt.

That's kind of cute though.

That was cute.

Wait, you guys, if you could be one like random famous person for a day, who would it be?

I think mine's either Zoe Kravis or Dua Lupa.

Du Lipi?

Wait, who do you think my options?

Well, those are just my two.

If you could be any like random, not even faint, just like any random person for a day.

I'm Dua Lipa for sure.

She's like living the like wishless lifestyle.

Yeah, you're just on vacation and beautiful with a hot boyfriend.

Yeah.

I'd probably pick Harry Styles.

I think like the excitement of like performing on stage and having the crowd lose your mind when you come out, I don't think there's very few cooler moments.

As someone who knows what it's like to like 1% of that, experiencing 1% of that as like the bachelor when you like walk out into like a local crowd and there's 50 people cheering, even that's kind of exciting.

I couldn't imagine what it would be like to have an entire like arena losing your mind as you perform and sing.

And people are just like, ah, like that's got to feel pretty fucking cool.

Also, knowing when you open your mouth that something great is going to come out, like sounding.

Did you guys see a video of Harry Sells trying to park a car like a couple of weeks ago?

And then he couldn't parallel park it for the fans.

So he just gave up.

Oh my God.

He's like John Barlow.

Yeah.

Wait, he was helping.

They were, they were struggling to parallel park.

So then he was like, I got it.

Like, I got you.

And then he tried to do it and then couldn't do it.

And then he's like, well, I tried.

And then they walked walked away wait i want to name mine because i want to be either sarah jessica parker for a day because like fashion icon and like amazing new yorker and carrie broadshaw um or it would be andy cohen because like hello i have every housewife's number i can ask any question i want and i would know and he's mega rich and mega rich yeah the whole thing any question he's just more like hey do

but like i mean he's also

the puppet master And he's also hanging out with Sarah Jessica Parker.

But I'm just thinking he could just pick up the phone and be like, hey, da, da, da, da, da, and get like any answer right then and there versus like having to like research or watch the show or like get dinner with them or drinks with them.

Like you can take

Cantis.

Exactly.

He also did a random thing.

He did an interview recently where he said that he just takes car rides from anybody.

So like if he can't get a like a cab in time, he'll just like a fan will see him on the street and he'll be like, well, like, can you take me?

And he'll just be like, that's how you use fame.

But also, that's kind of maybe how I started reading Misery, the Stephen King book.

I'm like, that's how that starts.

Literally.

That's okay.

Pitch for a reboot reboot of Misery.

It's Andy Cohen in someone's car.

He's a super fan.

In a Bravo Superfan.

If Andy Cohen ever goes missing, I feel like we know he was kidnapped.

Do you remember when people would just hitchhike?

That's crazy.

I did it once.

It is crazy.

It's even crazier knowing that it was like, it's actually probably safer to do it now than it was back in the day.

I know, but no one

does it.

Yeah.

All the predators are online.

Did any of y'all ever try to run away?

I know Nick didn't.

He was such an angry.

One time I like, I like, was like, I'm going to run away.

And then I went like a block down in my gated neighborhood and I was like, it's too scary.

And then I went back home.

I made it to my aunt's house, but she was a snitch.

And I love her.

I didn't even have a bad day.

I just wanted to be like dramatic.

An emo.

I ran away and I like went up the street and got tired.

So I sat on the curb and then I had sat in a ant pile.

And

I'd have to go back home.

Be like, mom, there's ants everywhere.

I also can confirm that

this year that Andy Cohen on Colbert did say that he will accept a ride from a stranger.

There have been many times I've been looking for a cab unsuccessfully and people have pulled over and said, Andy Cohen, where are you going?

And I'm like 23rd Street.

And they say, hop in.

Kathy Bates has one role left in her career and it's the misery reboot starring Andy Cohen and her.

Kidnapped me in Manhattan.

Has he ever documented this?

Like, no, but I'm sure the fans have.

There's got to be like

alive, you know?

Yeah.

I bet so many people have like dropped him off after the fact and thought to themselves, like, how the fuck did I not take a video being like, cause they're so like, oh my God, this is actually happening.

Like, they're driving.

Right.

They're driving, but it's also like, this is happening.

Where it's like, usually, when you see somebody on the street or something, they would like ask for a photo and keep it moving.

Where it's like, no, no one's going to believe that I gave Andy Gohan a ride to work.

Also, he's waiting for a cab.

Isn't that what Uber Black is for?

Andy Cohen doesn't have like a driver.

Right.

Yeah.

But New Yorkers are different.

Like they love a cab.

They're cool.

True, I guess.

Well, we have a great episode lined up for you.

Moments from now, Justin Sylvester will be joining us, returning to the Vilefiles to talk all things Bravo.

I imagine Justin was at Kyle and Mauricio's daughter's wedding, Alexia.

Oh, yeah, probably.

Right?

Must have been.

There's no way he wasn't invited.

He's like Kyle's bestie.

Anyways, maybe we'll get some tea about the Bravo royal wedding, really.

Plus, we'll get into some Real Housewives of OC and Miami with Justin Sylvester.

Also, we have have joining the show later this episode from the new hit show, The Paper, we got Ramona Young joins us to talk about the paper, the new, let's the office spin-off.

It's really funny.

And she is with us to talk about that experience, what it was like to be part of what is sure to be a new hit show on Peacock.

That is all coming up.

Before we get into that, though, they did release the promo of the new golden women who will be vying for the heart of the guy who wants to date 40-year-olds.

I wonder how many of them are 40.

So, we get to see all the women that

I guess really kind of made it over your mom.

True.

Whoa.

Whoa.

Is this the promo?

Yeah.

Is this all the women or some of them?

I would assume it's all of them because it says meet the women.

Meet the women.

Okay.

Here we go.

That was so cute.

It was really cute.

They look great.

It looks like a really great guest.

What's his name?

The Golden Bachelor?

Mel.

Mel.

Mel.

Mel.

We don't care about it.

Mel Owens.

Yeah.

Mel Owens.

Don't care about him.

I'm here for the divas.

I mean, there's one 58-year-old.

Most of them seem to be in their 60s.

You have a couple.

I wonder if they did that on purpose.

He's like, I won't date anyone.

If they're over than 60, they're cut.

And you're like, okay, well,

I love her.

Any favorites off that video?

I mean, my favorite part about the Golden Woman is that I feel like they know who they are.

Yeah.

It's like they come in being like, I can defuse a bomb versus like when you watch Normal Bachelor, it's like a girl girl being like, you know, I love a man that does this.

I love gummy bear.

Yeah, like they're like more cutesy and like, but the golden women are coming with like, I know who I am.

I have life experience.

I have done shit.

I am not scared of this.

I feel like the golden,

like Golden Bachelorette didn't really land as much for me because like the beauty of the golden franchise is just watching like a lot of older women just like live their lives and become friends.

And that's what I loved about the first season of Golden Bachelor.

I was like, I don't care about, what was his name?

Carrie.

I also just love a mom.

Well, it looks like some great women.

We'll see how they interact with Mel.

I'm really curious how it's, I mean, I just like, I can't believe they didn't replace him, to be honest with you.

It's kind of crazy that like the only thing that came about that was him.

Didn't he have some like bullshit PR statement?

And that was like it?

Did he?

I don't even think he did that.

I mean, there was something that came out, whether it was from Bachelor or from him.

Jesse Palmer made a comment about like, well, I'll definitely have to talk to him about it when we start filming.

So they'll like, which is almost even dumber, they'll awkwardly address it.

I don't know how you.

Also, like his, I mean, his ex-wife's like my age, who, who said, like, good luck.

I don't want anything part, any part of it.

It's just a weird, you know, for this franchise, it's just a weird casting.

But the women look great.

They seem great.

Excited to see how they come across on the end of September.

So.

We'll see how that goes.

Coming up next, Justin Sylvester returns to the show to talk about all things Bravo.

I'm assuming he was in attendance at Alexia Omanski's, the daughter of Kyle and Mauricio, who got married, I think, over the weekend or recently.

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Plus, get into the Real Housewives of OC and Miami with Justin following our dynamic interview with Katie.

That was well received by Bravo Nation.

I think she really acquitted herself quite well, and I think she's raised a lot of questions about the rest of her cast.

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Justin.

Welcome to the show.

Thank you.

Thank you for having me back.

No need to thank us.

Thank you for coming back.

You're always a delight.

By the way, I thought you only had like white ladies from Hulu on here now.

I thought you were like exclusively white ladies from Hulu.

I keep on seeing them pop up here.

Well, we do love them as well.

We love them as well.

Yeah.

And they feel so.

But now we now are a Netflix family.

Now Natalie and I are host of the new Netflix Age of Attraction.

Age of Attraction.

So stop.

We got stalled.

Yeah.

Shut up.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But

we got networks fighting for us and Netflix took over.

Netflix one.

Netflix one.

I can't wait for like Hulu to get in the gay game.

Like

it is going to be when Hulu realizes that a gay black man could ask any question he wants to anyone at any time at any place.

Yeah.

Because that's why Wendy Williams really worked.

She was a gay man and you can't really go after a gay man.

What are you doing?

Exactly.

It's true.

Exactly.

Clap if you think she should suffer.

Exactly.

Sometimes I want to ask a question and I'm scared.

Somebody, Justin, ask this.

100%.

I'm telling you, that's why we're here.

We are here to ask the questions you guys don't want.

Y'all are uncancelable.

We really are.

We've been through too much.

The drama is really good.

Trauma is really helping to get rid of away with that bit.

That was like a slightly uncomfortable question.

You're like, all right, Justin, can you just come in here, please?

And just

1000%.

I mean, listen, that's how I started my career.

I think I got all of the interviews that I wanted when I first started working at E because people were afraid to ask questions.

And there is a finesse.

to fucking getting into people's business.

Okay.

Like you have to finesse it.

You got to smooth it over.

And I think women, especially actresses, felt really comfortable with me because they had gay hairdressers, they had gay makeup artists, they had the gays in the, in the arsenal.

So they were used to, you know, us nosy trying to clock it, gays.

And that's really how I got my jump off.

And he asked questions from us.

Yeah.

I just ask the questions anyways, and then I just stay offline and don't take the

smart.

That's really smart.

It's like if they're saying something, I don't know.

It's so interesting because when I watch these reunion shows, and I got to give hats off to you, I watched Mormon Wise reunion, and it's a hard job to do hosting a reunion.

It is, yeah.

But I was like, fuck, he is moving this shit along.

Like, it is happening.

We are going there.

Oh, shit.

The one thing I wish you had done better was fucking ride Macy's ass for five more seconds.

Macy or

oh, no, not Macy.

What, no, no, what's the one?

Who's the one who hates Whitney?

Michaela.

Michaela.

No, I love Michaela.

Don't.

I I just wanted you to ride her for like five more minutes.

It just didn't make the edit.

Okay.

I need the uncut version.

Sadly, though, I won't be hosting the season three reunion.

I'm sad because I love those women.

I love that show and it was great to be a part of it.

But working with my wife with Netflix, you know, they he chose me over the three lives of former wives.

Now, how is it working together?

I mean, we do it here.

So it's like so much fun to just like continue it.

And obviously, this is like a bigger, I mean, it's Netflix.

It's like, I've never been on a real set like that before like that was so cool and having them like you know like talk in your ear and give you lines and you're like talking the same time they're speaking to you it's a crazy way to do things it was so much fun it was so cool the show is going to be so good justin you're going to be obsessed oh i'm into this because you know like when i was you know your age like if a man wasn't 47 plus I wasn't checking for him.

Like I liked a young, I liked an older man when I was younger.

I didn't mind it.

Where are you at now?

Are you

older?

You know what?

No, no, not as old.

Okay.

I feel like my daddy issues have like come down.

You know what I mean?

I'm not chronically, you know, full of daddy issues.

Well, now you've matured and now like you, you know, you, you, you are the adult.

Yeah, I'm an uncle.

Here you go.

I'm an uncle.

Yeah.

Yeah, at this point.

You can heal someone else's daddy issues.

I just love it.

Exactly.

I just, like, I always say this.

I just think Natalie's a star.

So I just think she's being discovered.

I'm just along for the ride.

I'm hoping to set off into the sunset, you know, just, you know, and have, have Natalie take over when I'm too old to do this shit.

And by the way, once you're in with the network, you're in.

So, Natalie, don't get comfortable because they're gonna be working your ass to the bone.

Just know that.

You know, I have a child to pay for, and she has expensive taste.

She's really expensive.

By she has expensive taste, it means like Natalie uses River and its excuse to buy things.

She's always like Natalie's always looking around the house, like, what corner can I do?

I'm like, River would love like a nice armoire right here, you know, like some clear.

oh, you're a pack rat.

No,

I am not a pack rat.

I am

a collectible.

Okay.

So you're a pack rat.

I like to collect.

Isn't it so funny?

Are you a minimalist, Nick?

Because I feel like this is very if I haven't, if I haven't used it, I'm not sentimental.

Stuff is stuff.

And if I haven't used it in five days, get the fuck out of it.

I like that.

Streetmen are so good.

I'm a curator.

Meanwhile, there's still that like shampoo bottle that you might use that Olaplex that you had from like nine years ago when you dyed your hair that you might use again in case you get highlights.

So you don't want to throw it away,

even though it's a curdling on the side.

So true.

So true.

Wait, Justin, I hear you've been tracking Brooks Nader's relationships and like, as have I.

Bitch, I should be Brooks Nader's OBGYA.

The way I know about this bitch's life right now is wild.

I just love a pretty bitch who curses.

Yeah.

Yeah, me too.

Jennifer Lopez,

if you ever in your life get a chance, when she drops an F-bomb, I ovulate.

And she does it.

She does it very slyly.

It happens once a year.

It's a Groundhog's Day.

If you're there when she says the F-word, it fucking sets me off.

The rest of your year year is great.

100%.

I know it's going to be a good year.

It's like the one F-bomb you get in a PG-13 movie.

Exactly.

It's so good.

Now, are you only aware of Brooks's public roster or do you know her private roster?

Because it's impressive.

I don't think I could know the private roster because I would become obsessed with it.

It's a

good one.

It's pretty good.

You know, we're from the same city.

Wait, y'all grew up in the same city?

She grew up 30 minutes away from where I grew up.

Oh, really?

But I went to college in Baton Rouge at LSU, and she and I have mutual friends.

So every Christmas for years, I would see her

at our mutual friend's house, and we would always hang out.

And she's a doll.

She's in the big leagues.

Really big league.

Yeah.

I really hope she gets Victoria's Secret.

Ooh.

That would really set her off.

Yeah.

Yeah.

If she's in that fashion show, if they're smart.

This girl is like, she needs to be not above playing the game.

No, no, no.

Yeah, she's great.

That's what I like about her.

I like that she knows that there's this public interest about her, that she is like B, about to be A,

and she is willing to do whatever the fuck it takes to get to A and stay there.

And she will do it.

And if Victoria's Secret's Smart, they'll put her in that fashion show and they'll use that to their advantage.

She deserves her wings.

I really do think so.

I mean, it would be a, it would be a good mark for her.

She did SI.

She did Maxim, and now she's doing this.

I don't think we've seen a super model.

I'm going to call her super light.

I've not seen a super light model

do this like

personality thing since like a Tyra or when Heidi Klum started to be more personality and putting herself out there.

And I think we need it because like, I don't know what Gigi Hadid's voice sounds like

anymore.

I don't know if Bella could even like, you know, I don't even know.

And even to be fair, I think they got their kickstarts because we got to see them on reality television.

Yeah, inspiring, too.

That's the follow.

Yeah.

They're OG reality TV stars.

Yeah.

Eat an almond, baby.

You can't have cake.

You have a shoot.

Eat an almond.

Eat an almond.

I'm going to pass out, mom.

Oh, my God.

I'm on their first season on Beverly.

Like, I'm watching all the Beverly Hills right now, and I'm like on the first season with Yolanda.

And it's so insane to see the Hadids as baby girls.

It's a beautiful, beautiful moment.

Justin, did you watch Love Dynator?

I know.

I am.

I'm stuck in it.

What do you think of the sisters?

I like the one who's like Courtney.

The youngest one is like very dry and doesn't give a fuck.

Yeah, thanks, Jane.

Listen, I know this show has like zero nutrition or value.

Like, I get it.

But at the end of the day, I just want to watch the four of them fucking fight about a dude who their sister, you know, it's the same shit, but I love it.

It's like an easy watch.

Yes, but like, that's what I'm saying.

I feel like reality TV kind of has to go back there because it's like even the Kardashians.

Like, we didn't know what we were watching when it started, but somehow you're just fascinated by an actual day-to-day life versus like, all right, here's the storyline for this episode, and we're going to go into the next one.

It's like, no, I just want to see you live your lives.

100%.

Yeah.

And that's what people do on YouTube all the time.

I saw a TikTok of someone talking about the whole like Gleb, the Uber, the car, and the Uber, and her going through the text and like finding out that he was cheating on her, having threesomes, and Joshua Tree.

Joshua Tree, whatever it was.

Of all places.

Of all places.

Joshua Tree and the dirt in the sand.

Exactly.

That's what I was thinking.

Because they were like, how did he get on the plane if he didn't have his phone?

Like, how did he bore?

That's hilarious that this generation has no idea that you can go to a kiosk and put in your fucking confirmation number.

Like, this is why I fucking hate Gen Z sometimes.

But how did they know his confirmation number if he didn't have it in his phone?

Bitch, you could, you have to go with an ID anyway.

You scan your ID at the goddamn kiosk and you get on the plane, okay?

Or crazier concept, you go to the desk and talk to someone.

Oh my God, talk to someone?

Are you fucking serious?

You have to talk to someone?

Can I just text them?

I don't know.

By the way, I'm guessing that Nick is the parent who has the passports, the itineraries, and all the immunization forms.

Hell fucking no.

This man forgets everything all the time, loses his shit.

Haunts.

I will say that what makes Natal and I work really well is like, I think together as a combo, we make a really good trad wife.

Yeah.

Good.

Yes.

Like,

I'm so good at ironing.

I'm, I'm a whiz in the kitchen.

Nally married a gourmet chef.

I don't do laundry.

I don't clean.

I don't pick up after myself, but I am really good in the kitchen.

He doesn't wipe his ass.

I do that too.

Nope, that's gross.

Honey, get him a toto.

I change diapers sometimes.

Put River down for naps.

Like, I take care of Nally so Nally can take care of River.

By the way, way, I'm not, I'm not mad at that.

No, not that.

Like if a man is giving 25%,

I will take it.

It sounds like you're giving 50%, but I tell all my girlfriends, if your man's giving 20 to 25, take it and run.

Because I have some friends who's, I'm like, girl, I don't know how you're doing this right now.

My favorite thing is it's like so many people are in relationships, don't know that they're single.

Literally.

They're literally doing everything and they're like little passenger princesses like, oh, wait, you want me to get a door for you?

It's

my famous ass Nickline.

He wants a girlfriend, but doesn't want to be a boyfriend, you know?

There you go.

Speaking of relationships, what were you doing on Saturday?

I went to a wedding.

Yeah, we thought so.

Oh,

I went to a wedding.

Whose wedding?

Oh, my God.

So, Kyle Orchards, who's one of my best friends, worked for her as an assistant for five years.

Her second oldest daughter got married.

And it was wild.

Was it about it?

Yeah.

It was kind of like a Bravo royal wedding, it seemed like.

It really was.

You know, those girls have grown up on TV, and I think people are just really excited to see them have happy endings.

I mean, I got to tell you, I don't know how you guys are going to do this in, you know, 20, 30 years, but I cried like a baby.

I pre-cry.

When I know I'm going to be a mess, I like to get it out first.

So I make like a nice little playlist.

I go to the gym.

I run on the treadmill and I let it out.

And the, thank god the maintenance guy at equinox like literally took me aside and asked me if i was going to be okay should he call somebody for me because you know i've known her since she was 13 years old and she was just a beautiful bride and i'm so happy that's so sweet yeah

she's dated the guy since she was like you know 20.

they've known each other since they were in third grade it's really wild can you like maybe like drop some like who was there Oh, you've seen it in People magazine.

You know, Lisa Renault was there.

Erica Jane was there.

You had some of the Love Island people there.

It was a nice little time.

Love Island people.

What a lot of people.

Did Erica wear a certain kind of earrings?

No, she did not.

She looked hot, though.

She almost hot.

She looked hot.

She looked hot.

What Love Island people were there?

I don't know.

I just heard chirping.

I got drunk.

I'm not going to lie.

I was fucked up.

right before they like stumped on that glass

mama was having a cocktail

so i was three sheets to the goddamn wind by the time like i got to the reception that's why you were crying so much.

Babbling like a fool.

No idea what's going on with this beautiful.

Babbling.

Justin, I'm assuming you're watching OC, correct?

I'm watching OC.

We recently had Katie on the show and it made some waves.

She is making waves.

I'm like, what are you making of this whole season?

What seems to be the entire cast

trying to take down Katie?

Are you friends with Kiki Monique?

Yeah.

No, I don't know who Kiki Monique is, by the way.

Okay.

I just got introduced to Kiki Monique recently from the show.

From the show.

Okay.

But what are you making of this season?

We thought Katie really came on and answered all of our burning questions.

And I think she answered them quite well, where she made a lot of sense, where it really seems like the rest of the cast is trying to take her down.

The most recent episode, we were on top of it before it got revealed in the episode, but Justin, being the bravo historian that he is, knew that this lie detector test seemed to be a bit fraudulent from the get.

And that this person has been, you know, he's a pay-for-play type of person.

Katie also, I don't know if she got tipped off, but she mentioned in the interview, and it really didn't seem like it registered with Jen, you know, when she was trying to like explain to Katie was trying to explain to Jen that like, hey, they hired a paid actor.

Yeah.

And then Heather's response was like, oh, well, Terry is also on TV, but he's also a plastic surgeon as if that somehow made the lie detector test more valid.

I didn't quite get that comparison.

But anyways, what are you making of this whole scenario?

Are you team Katie?

Are you team the rest of the women?

Like, what's your take on all this?

What I think happened

was

Gretchen was talking shit about Tamara to Katie.

Said, oh my God, at the naked waisted party, like,

I should have went to the hospital.

And, you know, somebody was like, why?

And she was like, I I probably was drugged.

And she didn't say A plus B, you know, equals C.

She probably said A plus D.

And they filled in

the middle part.

And Katie strung it together.

But there was that clip of Gretchen in the back seat telling Tamara to her.

That she did go to the hospital.

So that's where I was like, maybe she did say, and I went to the hospital after.

Exactly.

But apparently she forgot that she fell asleep at Gretchen's, at Tamarin's house that night.

Yeah.

So I think something was said at that table.

I think Katie went to Jen to get that backup and Jen didn't give it to her because Jen doesn't want to be on the other side of Tamra.

What happens, I think, with somebody like Katie is you have to have at least one person that has your back.

And unfortunately for her, no one was there for her.

Jen was supposed to be that person and Jen was not that person.

Also, Katie kind of repeated something, but that's that's the game.

It's housewives.

She repeated something that she heard.

And now people are trying to, I think, protect Tamara because, you know, we've seen in the past, if you say that someone tried to drug someone else, it's a Phaedra Park situation.

Yeah.

So I think that Katie was like, someone helped me out here.

And everyone was like, we don't want to touch that, but a 10 book pull.

Right.

Yeah, but now you also have Tamara seemingly coming to Katie's defense in the comments.

So what do you make of all that?

I think Tamara's smart.

I think Tamara knows that when they get to that reunion, she's looking at everybody on that couch and she's like, all right, I do have Heather Dubrow,

but this girl is the lowest man on the tolling pole.

For any housewife, if you want to get in on the action, you have to kind of sort of defend that one person.

Like you could either say, because they will defend you back at the same time.

So you always make a little bit of an alliance there.

And I think Tamara and Gretchen, no matter how they're skipping on the beach, no matter how much they said they're going to put it behind them, those two are out for blood.

Thank you.

No matter what, those two are out for fucking blood.

We watched this for like nine years straight and like we, are we still not learning our lesson?

No, bitch.

This was a 13-year.

Somebody is a Scorpio in there.

Yeah.

Because this vendetta goes back to 1990, month shit.

Nine.

Okay.

That's some good shit there.

So I think what's going to happen, Tamara is aligning herself with Katie because Tamara's going to to go for Gretchen

and all the flip-flopping that Gretchen has done over the season.

Do you like the addition of Gretchen bringing her back this season?

I fucking love it.

Yes.

I also think that

Gretchen needs at least two seasons to warm up.

She was thrown back into this group.

She didn't know her place.

She was afraid to get in there and go head to head with Tamra.

I think most housewives need at least two seasons.

Because the first season, you're like, holy shit, that happened.

And then you watch it back and you're ready.

You understand.

You come in second season probably with a little glow up too and you're like ready to battle.

Oh, no, no.

You get a hair and makeup scene.

You know, you've read the Twitter.

The stylist.

The stylist, all the things.

Yes.

But a lot of housewives do things for the audience.

You know, they don't want to piss the audience off too much.

They don't want to be the villain.

But sometimes, like, I'll take this.

I'll say this.

If you watch the scene on the beach, Gretchen says to tamara yo you brought joe here to piss me the fuck off right that's low-hanging fruit all tamara had to say was you know what maybe you're right maybe i maybe yes i'm sorry i'm human yeah i wanted to piss you off i shouldn't have done that sometimes you just got to take accountability for something right you know what i mean and it's hard for them because they get it they're afraid of that edit they're afraid of what people are going to say about them but i think gretchen coming will come back next season and she'll come back harder do you think there's any concern for Katie to return?

We had her on.

She says she definitely wants to come back.

She definitely, she seemed to make it clear that if she's not there, it is not because she decided not to come back.

We need Katie.

Yes.

You need crazy.

You know what I mean?

You need somebody who is so,

and we haven't had that in a very long time, having somebody who splits the audience in two.

As you said, you believe everything that Katie says.

There is somebody down the street who probably does not.

Like you need that divisive character on a show.

It's really hard to say.

I mean, I think when we had her on, at first, it seemed like definitely watching it to me, it seemed like Katie's a bit of a gossip.

Maybe she tells a white lie here or there.

But then, when we had her on, I thought she was very articulate, very decisive with her responses.

And I don't think she's any more of a liar than any of these other women after talking to her.

I think it's all semantics.

And I think Katie really has her version, and the other women have theirs.

But the way, the way the rest of the women are painting her out to be this compulsive liar who just has a laundry list of lies, I just, that I don't buy.

And I think it's this very convoluted.

And the way they're being, the way they're teaming up on Katie, I mean, again, like it's, we, we know now, I think we, I feel confident in saying Heather definitely called the paparazzi on herself.

And that's fine.

At Disneyland?

Yeah.

But like at Disneyland?

You think Heather called the paparazzi at Disneyland?

I think she calls the pop on her side.

I think she's definitely capable of calling them.

Maybe Terry called.

No one's thought that Terry might have called.

Here's the James.

In LA, if you want to be seen, you know the three places to go.

Sure.

Craigs, Gargio Baldi, Craigs,

Catch.

It used to be Catch.

It used to be

Jones.

Yeah, sometimes Jones.

People know the places to go.

I don't think you're calling the paparazzi to come to, you know, Disney World to pay that $300.

Katie just made that up out of thin air?

I think somebody said it to Katie and then Katie in jest and then Katie repeated it.

Well, did y'all hear that Teddy Mallencamp said that Sheena Shea was the one that told Kiki Monique about Gretchen being drugged?

Oh, shit.

Sheena's exhaustive.

That's a plot list.

Right.

Okay, but hold on.

This is for the ladies out there.

Did anyone see gina's ex-husband no the one who had the heart attack hot hot no wonder gina has six kids for that man thank you natalie thank you

i didn't think gina could do it yeah oh yeah well she's not anymore yeah bro i'm like holy gina bagged that what the fuck gina Come over.

Let's go.

Why did you lead with that?

Why didn't you start with that?

Oh.

He's fine.

Yeah.

He was really cute.

How would you feel?

Would you want, if you got divorced and your partner remarried, would you want them to look like you or nothing like you?

Nothing like.

You know what I need?

If they could just be one, I would love to be, you know, hey, I want to like your partner.

Just make sure she's just one below me.

Like, yes.

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

Like, not quite as hot.

Yeah.

Like, if I'm an LA, like, seven, can you make her six?

Yeah, stay on good terms during co-parenting.

Please, please.

It's like, or if she's hot, like make her have bad style, make her like some as a door now.

And

isn't this the woman who's kind of made her life kind of a living?

No, that's her boyfriend's partner.

Yeah, okay, I'm sorry.

And I'm sorry, but I kind of find it a little creepy when people have a bunch of exes that look exactly the same.

Yeah, I'm like, try, try something different.

Yeah, it's weird.

It's the reason why it doesn't work out.

It is kind of weird, right?

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

Have some range.

Right?

Some people have a type, Nick.

Oh,

Let's talk about that.

I love it all.

Let's talk about that.

He is a very picky eater in general, too.

Right.

So he has the specific things he enjoys.

You know, I often say this about celebrities.

They get into this thing where they date almost the same type of person in the same situation and it never works out.

And the minute they take a step outside of their comfort zone, they find the love of their lives.

Like, I'm watching Zoe Kravitz fucking date all these actors and I'm like, girl, it's never going to to motherfucking work.

Like, you cannot date another man who wants to fit in your jeans.

So, you don't think her and Harry Styles are in-game?

No, they're not in-game.

She can't in-game with that.

He dated her friend whose house she was staying at.

That's so true.

That's so true.

Who's the friend?

Taylor.

Taylor Swift.

Oh, my God.

She was staying at Taylor Swift's house?

Yes.

Sleeping with her ex-boyfriend?

Exactly.

Yeah.

Iconic.

Oh, God.

When did Taylor and Harry date?

Oh, my God.

You've got that James Dean.

She wrote a whole song about her.

Yeah, there's a rumor that they like committed vehicular manslaughter together.

It's not true.

Oh my god.

What dark web you were on?

It was like, it's one of like the crazy Swifty conspiracy theories that style is about a hit and run.

Holy shit.

That was crazy.

Whoa.

Wow.

The swifties will know what I'm talking about.

I don't think they will, actually.

I don't think they'll like that.

Guys in the audience, please bring it.

You're really feeling loose with Justin sitting next to you.

I'm like,

I don't want to be here.

Cutting me out of this episode oh my god sorry i went too dark i'm trying to get invited to the wedding

literally i did not say that

i've gotten in trouble so many times for other people saying i am not taking this one for you

you cannot say that i said that i said that's why i laying here

It's so crazy.

I have a, I'm doing a podcast now called The Yestergaze.

Oh, period.

And I have a podcast co-host.

His name is Blakely Thornton.

And he's got no filter.

And he has no parent company, and he ain't got nobody to

lose.

Nothing to lose.

And that fucking tongue is loose.

Woo!

And every week, I'm like, I get a text.

I'm like, here it is.

Here's my weekly tag.

Because I also don't want to cut things out or say, oh, you can't say that.

Because this is his platform too.

Right.

And he does make sense on some of the shit, but man.

You're really testing those boundaries.

The customer care I'm doing right now for this podcast is crazy.

And disclaimer added, that is not my thoughts.

I do not share said sentiments.

I say it every time.

Keep it rolling.

I'm like, that did not wrong black eye.

Yeah.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, I forget.

On OC, what was the procedure that Gretchen and was it Gina?

The thing in the butt that's supposed to give up the pellets.

What was that?

Testosterone.

Testosterone.

You can get any kind of, like, let's say you're taking testosterone, TRT.

You know, most men take it when they get over 45 or 50.

Not me.

I just got my blood work done, and my testosterone is high, apparently.

I'm sure you have a 25-year-old fucking wife.

It better be popping.

27.

She's 27.

It better be popping.

I'm 27 now.

You can put the testosterone in a pellet that releases every day for you.

Oh, damn.

And it makes your ass big.

No, no, you just, you know, put the testosterone in there instead of taking the shot every day.

Have you done this?

No, not yet, but I will.

Yeah, I'm big on vitamins and we love our vitamins and minerals.

It's for post-menopausal women.

It helps with their exercise, their metabolism, balancing their diet and sleep.

So it's like when our levels are low, that's when we're all like,

I'm reading from the internet as to why one would take testosterone.

I stand with women.

I stand with women.

Women's stories matter.

I don't care if Holland Taylor's sitting right next to me.

I don't know shit about menopause.

Okay.

I don't know if you went through menopause.

I don't care.

I don't care.

I'm not asking that question.

You would offer them a pad if they need it.

I would have a tampon ready.

Yes.

Wait, speaking of menopause, are you watching Royal Housewise of Miami?

Bitch.

Yes.

Miami's kind of sort of, I hate to say it, one of my favorites.

Yes.

It's my second favorite to Salt Lake City.

Miami fucks it up every time.

Why?

And you know what?

The friends are in there too.

I think it's because Miami's like a whole nother world we don't know shit about.

Yes.

And like things that go on in Miami, we don't know the ins and outs of.

And there's also like those crazy accents like and the latin heat and all the weird stuff though it's like so normal to them and i'm over here like okay so we do what now no no no it's like the first time like i remember vividly watching row housewives of new jersey and they're sitting on like this couch i i can remember it and the whole time it was like your mother's a whore your daughter's gonna be a prostitute your husband's gay and no one would get upset and teresa was like go scratch and then it was like

you said, go scratch.

Like, it was like, I didn't understand it.

But apparently, in New Jersey, if you tell somebody to go scratch, that's it.

Final straw.

Like, you're fucking done.

Yes.

Like, I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

I don't understand the language.

I don't understand it.

I'm here for it.

Yeah.

No, that is how I feel when I watch Miami.

I'll be halfway through an episode.

I'm like, I'm not entirely sure what I'm watching.

Do you like Stephanie?

I feel like at this point, we need to make her jet a friend of or an original household.

I mean, it's insane how much that bitch gets brought up.

That jet should be a full-time fucking friend.

That jet should have a, what does Miami have?

A seashell?

No, I'm pretty positive.

It's an issue.

It's a margarita.

It's either margarita or a martini.

I'm glad she brought her other marginalized.

Give the jet a martino.

No, I really love it.

By the way, I feel like Stephanie knows exactly what's happening.

She's like, I'm going to go for Alexia.

Everyone seems to be scared of her.

I'm the HBIC in my life.

But then she started crying like a punk bitch on that trip.

But I liked it.

I liked the other side of her.

I looked at the line and he's like, girl, there's no safe space, no safe spaces here.

And she's like, this is my hair space.

And she was like, what?

Safe space.

This is housewife.

My favorite part was when they split them up.

And then

Stephanie is being her alter ego nautical steph.

And she's like, well, I'm nautical steph.

And Marisol's just like, well, don't do drugs.

And she just keeps saying like, no drugs.

Should we read the rapid recaps before we break any more down?

Sure.

Well, if you missed this past episode of The Real Housewives of Miami, here is your rapid recap.

We meet Stephanie Sojay's alter ego, Nautical Staff, and Julia's alter ego, Judy Garland, performing the trolley song.

Kiki's dad helped her out with her family stuff, and they're moving forward together.

Lisa is in her Nicole Kidman in that one photo after she left Tom Cruise era, divorced.

But low-key, her finger feels bare and she lets Jodi know this.

Stephanie Sojay is friends with Anastasia from Setting Spray fame.

She's also in her struggling stand-up era and working on her delivery.

But anyway, the girls get rocking on Richard the Virgin Airlines Guy's cruise.

Adriana is having that girl moment when it's your birthday, so therefore you want to die.

Gertie is so best friends to her about it, though, and it's socutie.com.

But everyone still hates each other, so they get split up.

Marisol tells Stephanie Sojay, no drugs.

Lisa is on time for the first time in her life and tries to talk shit, not on girly pop.

Larsa does a bunch of shots and flashes the girls on FaceTime, and it's honestly cute.

Marisol tells Nautical Steph's twin sister, Jane, Fonda workout taped Steph, that she's not a safe space for her, but they're maybe going to have a new start.

However, it doesn't look like it's going to go well.

Dude, that lunch with Kiki's dad was kind of dark.

It always blows my mind when a housewife brings like a parent or like a relative to talk about some dark past trauma.

And I just can't get past knowing that like the ambush, which her dad called out, like, how many cameras are around?

And why are we talking about this right here, right now?

It always just blows my mind when they go really dark and really deep on childhood traumas.

It just, I don't know, it blows my mind.

It's, I think it's crazy because we always see her so jovial and having a good time.

And, you know, she's a friend.

So she shows up when she wants and like she's in hair and makeup and she's always so positive.

And then what happens is that person kind of throws something out at a left field, which she did when they were in Spain.

Right.

And then you have the follow-up to that.

You know what I mean?

Like, but the story wasn't like, there wasn't like a slow roll to it.

It was like, this is actually happening in her life and her dad's there.

So let's talk about it.

but it is kind of drawing what's also drawing is that baby girl told jodi she's ready to get married again that was crazy the ink isn't even dry on the divorce papers the papers hadn't even been delivered no yeah

i would be like wait his phase as i'm saying his reaction was perfect the man was lost for words he was like okay Yeah, you do like being a missus, don't you?

It was crazy.

It was wild.

In the same breath of, I don't think I'm ready to feel married again, but my finger does feel really bare.

As she wears her ring that Lenny gave her.

Yes.

I will say, I've never thought twice about being a miss or a missus.

Yeah, I forgot that that was a thing, honestly.

Like watching this episode reminded me that, like, there's a difference between Ms.

and Mrs.

Have you ever been referred to as a missus ever?

Yeah, from South.

So, yeah.

Mrs.

Ms.

You're an MRS.

Yeah, you're an MRS.

You're MRS.

Do you watch Gilded Age?

Yes.

Yes.

Here's the thing.

I think the Gilded Age is Miami, but in different costumes.

Yeah.

Because if you think about it, those women are in their 40s and 50s, and we're talking about being divorcees, and we're talking about not feeling like, oh, I'm a whole woman because no one wants to marry me.

Adriana's going through it.

Lisa's going through it already.

The only person who was divorced and not going through it, and actually Alexia is going through it.

She didn't want to let Todd go because she doesn't, yeah,

she does not want to be single.

The only person that's enjoying single life is fucking Larsa.

Yeah.

Because she's pulling some hot trade.

Yeah.

And the one that is like very married.

We don't know her husband.

How many housewives are on OnlyFans?

I think there's only like two.

Are we agreeing Denise in that?

I think Denise, Brandy, and Larsa.

Do you think Brandy's still working after the parasite?

I think Brandy's definitely still working.

Brandy's always working.

Listen, there's always a kink out there.

Thank you.

Thank you.

And we're not shaming anyone's kink.

No, no, no.

If I could sell a dirty tampon, honey, I would.

Right?

My bath water.

You don't want my bath water.

Yeah.

It is bathing.

I feel like some, but the thing is, somebody out there probably does, and you deserve to get paid for that.

Thank you so much.

It's so crazy.

I want like a vagina candle.

What housewife or Bravo celebrity do you think is missing out the most by not being on OnlyFans?

Ooh.

Ooh,

give me a city.

So, like, ooh, you know, I think fucking Angie's hot.

Yeah, yeah.

I think Angie's kind of hot.

And I think Angie's husband would let her do whatever she wanted.

She would.

Like, if she wanted to pose a few, he's taking the photos.

Make a few million.

Yeah.

And did her hair for the shared shit.

Exactly.

Give me another city.

Potomac.

Oh, who's in Potomac?

Who's in Potomac?

Giselle.

Single.

She would eat.

She would eat.

She would eyes.

Her eyes, that booty, she would eat.

Erica Jane.

Yeah.

Yeah, die.

Erica Jane.

Erica fucking Jane.

Pretty mess.

Would pretty mess would kill.

Honestly, why hasn't she done it?

Honestly, because she could really rebound.

She needs, I mean, she needs the cash flow.

She made a lot during Savage X-Fente when she did those clubs.

She made a lot.

She made a lot, which I think she's going to be back for that again.

Thank God.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But she's southern like me we're scared

yeah atlanta oh portia williams

yeah another ass

from the gods and i've seen that ass in person it is wild or kelly oh new girl kelly yeah

oh yeah for sure yeah for sure for sure yeah yeah new girl kelly could do it britt eady would probably make a lot of money too

she has she probably is making money am i wrong for saying drew I feel like Drew would make good money.

No, get out of here.

On an OnlyFans.

She would not make good money.

She has her music She's over there.

I still think Tom Sandoval would make an absolute killing.

By the way, Tom Sandoval.

You can do it.

It's coming out next.

Has he not taken your idea about this?

No.

He hasn't.

I feel like Tom Sandoval would make a fucking killing.

He makes so much money.

He could buy that house back from Ariana and then another house.

Yeah.

I think if you did it for like a month and said, listen, I'm just going to be sending out exclusive content.

and like you're going to see my dick once and once only 30 days let's go 45.99 bitches would run yeah they would that's so much he would make so much money he would make a killing bella thorne made i think five million dollars in the first month she was doing he would make a million dollars just from the haters who wanted to like sign up just to shame him And that's not even counting all the people who are fans of him who want to watch and like and enjoy the body he's been working so hard on.

But, like, just the haters alone would pay him over a million dollars.

I would pay 45.

Yeah.

I would do it.

Research purposes.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

By the way, I'm dying to know what's in there because apparently all these bitches were clamoring over him.

It must be something nice.

Right.

Yeah.

Did you see Anna Kendrick recently be like, if Tom Sandoval has no haters, I'm dead.

Yeah.

The fact that that guy, and I'm like, you know, it sucks.

What happened was terrible.

The fact that all of the world thought you were the scum of the earth is a horrible, horrible thing to go to.

But I get a sense, a little bit of relief when I see him on Fox.

When I see,

just like, okay, you could do it.

Like, you could make a comeback.

Everyone deserves a second chance.

Like, what he did was terrible.

He did not deserve the vitriol he got.

And like, there are just worse people in the world out there than Tom Sandoval.

I'm not saying that he asked for it or anything, but in his first season, first episode, he does say he does want fame and he wants Michael Jackson level fame.

Oh, well, be careful what you wish for because he was on the banner of CNN.com talking about his private business.

And now he has a household.

Let's not confuse fame with infamy.

Well,

you know, I don't think so.

People will take the same thing.

I was going to say it's one in the same nowadays.

It's one in the same.

There's no Billy the Kids in entertainment.

I don't know how much money Tom is making.

And there's no point in being famous if you're not rich.

And I don't know Tom's finances, but I think he needs to sign up for OnlyFans.

By the way, I would do it if I were him.

Yeah.

Are we watching Gretchen from OC or Jen?

Oh, you think from OC who would make the most money?

On OnlyFans.

Yeah, on OnlyFans.

Jen.

Who are we watching?

I think Jen would make the most money.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Gretchen, sorry, mama.

Also, did you see the moment where Jen's daughter was like, I don't know if I want you to marry Ryan.

Yeah.

And if I were Jen, I'd be like, bitch, we wouldn't have somewhere to live if

I don't marry Ryan.

We're fucked.

Baby, do you want a house house over your head?

We don't have a choice here.

Okay.

We don't have a choice.

Mama's going to marry this man.

I realized Jen follows me.

So I DM'd her last week.

I was like, we got to finally get you on.

She didn't respond to that.

But then she just responded to my Instagram story of me posting a picture of the lake.

It was like, this is what it's all about, ignoring my request to come on.

Shit.

I think she's definitely come on.

I don't think she saw that message.

I think she was just on it was definitely giving I don't understand Instagram and less of a yeah I did DM Brittany Bateman and she'll she'll be coming on eventually for sure and she sent me a three-second voice note in response.

Here was she singing play it.

You have to play it.

I am here when she gets here.

I am fucking here.

It was so great.

It was so great.

I love her.

I'm be working the sound like this motherfucker over here.

I don't even want to be on camera.

So tap in Justin for Justin.

I just want to be here.

Just messager go, go, hey, Brittany, huge fan.

We're excited to finally have you on this season.

We were in talks last season.

Timing didn't work out with our schedules.

I think it's going to happen this season.

She responded with this.

Oh, my gosh, that's so nice.

Thank you.

I mean,

just

perfect.

Just her voice.

No, no.

Here.

Her voice.

Love it.

She's one of the best.

I really didn't think

people could make up for Monica Garcia's exit, but the way Brittany and Bradwin have have, I mean,

they're both incredibly fantastic.

Is Brittany going to get her snowflake?

She's a friend of the season.

That's disgusting.

By the way, hold on.

Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

Everybody thinks that being a friend of is a bad gig, and it's kind of the fucking best.

Cynthia Bailey always says she loves the fact that she's a friend of.

She and I, and I can say this.

She called me and she was like, oh, they want me to be a friend of.

I don't know.

It feels like a demotion.

I sat with this bitch for five minutes on the phone.

I said, don't interrupt.

Just let me give you the key points.

And she was like, I think you're right.

I think I'm going to do it.

And then she said it was the best decision of her life.

People sleep on friend ofs, but it is one of the best jobs in reality TV.

It's like she practically narrated this last season.

She was the star.

She was awesome.

It is, I'm telling you right now, anyone who can find, if you're a woman out there and they ask you to be a housewife, always say just a friend of.

The pressure's off your back.

If a season's bad, no one ever says, oh, the friends were bad.

They say the housewives are bad.

They blame it on the producers.

If you don't want to show up somewhere, you don't have to show up somewhere.

If you don't want to go on a cash trip, you don't have to go on a cash trip.

You get to be fabulous.

You get to push your shit.

But most importantly, you get to jump in when you think you want to.

And it's just less pressure.

I would be, I would literally, I've been trying to talk everyone into it.

Being a friend is the jam.

No notes.

Justin, this is so much fun, man.

Please come back soon.

Plug away.

Tell us where we can find you.

All that fun stuff.

You guys, the Yesterdays podcast, it's really funny.

It's out of control.

It drops every Tuesday wherever you get your podcast and on YouTube.

It's with Blakely Thornton, and we're live and we're coming to you, and you don't want to miss it.

And you can find me on Instagram at JustinA.

Sylvester.

I love you guys.

We love you.

Up next, we have Ramona Young from the new hit show, The Paper, streaming now on Peacock.

It's hilarious, especially if you are a fan of the office, which I know many of you are.

She's on it.

She's stirring on it.

She's hilarious.

And she is up next.

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Ramona Young, welcome to the show.

Thanks.

So excited to have you.

We are so excited to have you.

Also, congratulations because today, I mean, it was reviewed for a second season.

Before you guys even started.

You're booked.

You're booked and you're busy.

So how does that feel?

Well, that doesn't usually happen.

That's not a normal thing.

Right.

Usually you finish a season, it gets released.

People watch it.

You twiddle your thumbs for six months and you're hoping that you have a job.

Right.

You're like calling your cousins.

You're like, please, did you turn it on and stream it or watch it to add to those numbers?

Yeah, please like just

run it in your house.

Just non-stop running in your house.

So I feel very fortunate.

It's a good thing.

Expectations are high.

Yeah.

So go, go, I mean, obviously, like, The Office is such an iconic series.

Whether it was you or the rest of the cast, like, what conversations were you all having or just with yourself in terms of how much did you guys want to replicate or kind of Bring in the essence of the success of the office or was it more like let's just do our own thing Let's be our own show and how did you guys strike that balance i think from the beginning it was very clear that it was gonna be its own thing um i think tonally it was gonna be a little similar it was gonna be made by the same documentary crew so the style would be similar but all the characters i think when greg daniels and michael komen they were creating all these wonderful characters they wanted to make sure that the dynamics were different and the characters were new and that it was going to be its own new thing.

What was the audition process like?

How do I even begin?

That's such a great question.

It was very long.

Really?

It took months.

And it was like an audition that I had never done before in my life.

What about it felt like different?

The audition was very mysterious.

None of the names were real.

None of the sides were real.

There was no character description.

Interesting.

So there was like nothing.

You were, you were basically just left in the dark.

So did they not want the like

idea of this like being leaked anywhere?

Is that why they were being so mysterious?

Or that's a great question.

It really beats me.

I think a part of it is they just want to see what you do.

with with very minimal information.

Yeah, it was a very long process.

It took months.

And then there was a chemistry read, which I did with Melvin.

And that was interesting.

Interesting altogether.

Yeah, because you want to feel like you have chemistry with the person.

And a lot of times you don't know them.

Right.

And so in the lobby, everyone's like socializing and trying to like warm up to people and whatnot.

And me and Melvin had missed each other.

So like I went in when he arrived and then he went in and I was sent back out.

And

so when we read together, it was our first time meeting.

Instant chemistry, of course.

Instant, spontaneous.

Yeah.

And Greg and Michael were in the room and they were like, did you guys get a chance to talk or meet each other?

We were both like, no, we hadn't.

Hi, how are you?

And they're like, well, we're just going to leave the room and let you guys socialize and get to know each other.

And they tiptoed out of the room and just like pressed the record button and left.

And it was just me and Melvin sitting there like, so what do you like to do for fun?

What?

Yeah.

And then they came in like a couple minutes later and then we did like a couple versions of the scene and

that was my chemistry read with Melvin.

I feel like I would be more awkward when they left, you know?

Yeah,

because

you know when they're there, you're like, oh, we're trying to get this job, you know, we're acting, right?

And I feel like when they leave the room it's kind of that like you just ran into someone maybe you don't necessarily like want to see at the grocery store and you're having this like awkward like what have you been up to lately kind of like awkward conversation it's like a blind date it was like a strange blind date yeah

do you think that leaned into kind of like the coworker aspect of the show how so

i feel like the way Especially, I mean, I don't know how long like your character and everyone had been like working at this paper, but I feel like there definitely is a different way you like communicate with your coworkers than you would with like your friend that because you don't necessarily have to have good chemistry with your coworkers.

And so like, and I think a great part about like these mockumentaries is kind of like the slight tension between everyone.

Yeah, there is definitely tension.

And between like my character and Melvin's character.

On this show, our characters aren't weren't allowed to speak to each other.

So the awkwardness has, it fed into the authenticity of the environment.

How much is improv on this show versus like scripted?

Because, you know, usually in traditional like, you know, scripted shows, writers are very like, hey, read what's on the paper.

But we've heard, you know, we had Brian Baumgriner on in the past, and they, you know, there's a lot of stories that have come out about the office since about some pretty iconic moments.

that were just kind of off the cuff or improv.

How much improvisation did you guys get to do while while filming this?

That's a good question.

Surprisingly, it's very scripted.

Surprisingly, it's very like

well thought out and planned out.

We'll always do like, Greg Daniels likes to do a lot of takes.

And so we'll do like a lot of scripted takes and then he'll also give us a chance to like run and play and do different things.

And when that happens, the scene never ends.

It just keeps going.

whole time.

It just, yeah, it's just non-stop.

And then we go past lunch and then it gets late.

Everyone's on overtime.

So there's a lot of that.

I don't know how much of that is used, actually.

But yeah, a lot of it is scripted.

And I think because of the way it's written, it's hard to tell.

It looks very improvised.

Did you guys feel a lot of pressure with, I mean, you know, now knowing it's been picked up for a season two, you've been on other like popular shows like Santa Clara Diet.

Did you have a sense or just was there pressure going in?

And then while filming it, did you guys feel like this, this is going to work?

Or are you not sure how they're going to cut it?

So you're just like, I don't know.

I'm just going to act.

And I hope it turns out.

Honestly, yeah, that was me.

I can't speak for everyone, but

I've done shows where people are like, this is going to be the biggest thing and it's going to change your life.

And you just watch, kid.

And then I do it and I'm back at my day job

so yeah and I've done shows where I've had no expectations like I had no idea what was gonna happen and then it just blows up so I I learned to just like not think about that that's probably smart were there any like sitcom characters that you pulled any inspo from to play Nicole or Did you kind of just do your own thing?

So

before we started filming, Melvin, chelsea and i we got to interview some real local newspaper journalists oh fun and i had no idea what circulation was or like what a circulation person did

um

and that was one of the people that we got to interview and melvin made this comment she's like this really sweet older lady like very tiny very petite and he was just like you seem like such a nice lady and she's like oh but i'm not

and I was like, That's great,

like, that's great for Nicole.

Yeah, yeah, that's funny.

So, it was like real life.

Yeah, do you think that this woman's gonna know that you pulled that from her?

I don't know, I think she's gonna watch you and be like, I see myself and Nicole.

I hope she watches the show and sees herself in my character.

Yeah, did you have a fair?

Did you have a favorite character on the office?

I think I was a

gym stan, probably the level-headed

why do you think that fancy you're like yeah i was just thinking of i was a creed

oh yeah that's good classic kelly yeah well i mean mindy kaling you gotta love kelly love mindy yeah yeah did you because you were in never have i ever

the mindy kaling show did you talk to her at all like about about doing this yeah it was probably towards the end of filming season one and she had seen one of the pilot cuts and we just messaged each other and she told me how much she loved it and how she couldn't wait to see the rest of it and she was very stoked and it's it was really nice hearing that from mindy

yeah yeah that is like legendary yeah have mindy like compliment you yeah

what was the worst job you've ever had in real life

um probably like a cheese grater salesman You were a cheese grater salesman.

Yeah.

It was like door to door.

So what I would do is drive from like grocery stores to like grocery stores and I would set stuff up and I would make an announcement and be like, hey, come to aisle five.

You'll get a free gift if you watch this demonstration.

And I would have a 15 like page monologue of demonstration that I would have to memorize, perform

me.

grating cheese for 15 minutes and then clean up for five minutes and then do it again.

And that was what I did for like what kind of

months?

All types of cheese.

You could create boiled eggs with it.

You could create cookies if you want to make pie crumble.

Do you own the grater now?

I did once upon a time.

I don't think I have it anymore.

Did you believe in the product?

It was all right.

It was all right.

That's real work.

It was real acting.

It's like prop work.

You're really, you're really leaning in.

Yeah.

And what I learned from that job is like the more enthused I seemed about it the less people bought it and looking miserable grating cheese really really sold the product yeah so when I would do it like I kind of hated it people would be like yeah I believe this woman give me three

that's great it's going in everyone's Christmas stocking

grating cheese should be hard work yeah yeah yeah

oh my god that's so funny you're from the LA area I know you you've bounced around all over, but like you mentioned, having to go back to your day job.

What was a job that you've had to do?

Like once you got into acting and, you know, it's a process, right?

You might get a small gig here, a small gig there in between.

You know, you never know.

But what did you do to make ends meet while chasing your dreams?

Gosh, so much.

I

far backed a little bit.

I

worked at a bunch of restaurants.

What else?

I was a substitute teacher.

I tutored.

I worked at an after-school program.

You graded cheese.

Graded a lot of cheese.

Yeah.

If any of your other jobs were to become like a mockumentary, what do you think would make like the best?

What if, okay, can I say something that I hadn't done that I think would make a good mockumentary?

Yeah, there's no rules.

You can say whatever you want.

I just made this question up.

Like maybe clown school.

Ooh.

Because people take that

very seriously.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's like a dramatic art.

And it would be dramatic.

Like these clowns would be really serious and sad and frustrated.

Really intense theater kids in makeup.

Yeah.

That would be awesome.

I don't know any of the Christopher guys.

No.

I'm sorry.

I don't even know who that is.

The Bestin Show.

Waiting for Guffman.

Waiting for Guffman.

A Mighty Win.

A Mighty Win.

So what are these things that you two are naming?

They're movies, they're mockumentary, they're improvised.

Like Beston Show is about the dog pageant.

Yeah, and then

yeah, Waiting for Guffman is like regional theater with like Eugene, Livy, and Catherine.

Do you have some of like your own personal favorite mockumentaries?

I mean, I really like what we do and the shadows.

Um, Parks and Wreck.

Is that considered a mockumentary?

Yeah, yeah.

That was like a like the first office spin-off in a way.

Yeah.

And then it became, it got to be its own thing, much like the paper.

Okay.

I see.

Yeah.

Interesting.

There was a lot of different opinions out there when they found out that this was all going to be released at once.

I was a big fan of it because I thought about how like the office or Parks and Wreck kind of had like, well, certainly Parks and Wreck because it went off the air and then it came back.

But I feel like sometimes these shows,

it takes a bit to like get into the characters, right?

And then like each character, you really kind of fall in love with over time.

And to me, it's like a very bingea show rather than like, you know, watching one episode, waiting a week, waiting for a cliffhanger.

Like, do you, do you agree, disagree?

Do you, do you like binging this type of stuff?

I think our show in particular builds momentum as you watch it.

So I'm actually really glad that it's dropping all at once.

I think it gets like exponentially funnier as you keep going.

So it's nice that people don't have to wait.

What are you most excited for people to watch in the paper?

Just all the shenanigans we get into.

Because it gets more and more ridiculous and it's really fun.

When you're not acting or studying, what are you watching on TV?

Is like just a fan of TV?

I've been watching one of my favorite shows is Love After Lockup.

Have you seen that?

No.

Have I?

I love it.

There we go.

I love it.

These people are interesting.

Yeah.

It's so interesting.

Have you followed any of like the

recent, like the people who are like glorified because they're so attractive or not attractive, but they're like arrested and going to prison.

Everyone's like, oh my God, I have to be their like pen pal.

Yeah.

Like I remember the one, the most recent one that I saw was like Wade Wilson, who is like this awful.

criminal but he like was covered in tattoos and like when he didn't open his mouth because i think his teeth are rotting out from meth when he didn't open his mouth, he was like kind of handsome.

And he, I remember,

yeah, he could.

And like, everyone would be like making these thirst trap videos of him.

And I feel like he would be the type that would be on Love After Lockup.

Yeah.

You know, like just the, I feel like there was another guy who like got famous off his mug shot.

Yeah.

They became a model.

The one guy like became like famous.

A real like high-end fashion model.

Good for him.

Yeah.

Good for him.

Are you into any other like reality TV type of things?

I really love like home makeover shows.

Like I love seeing people flip their houses.

I love watching say yes to the dress.

Makes me cry.

All the

dress.

She said yes.

Yeah.

So you're like a TLC kind of girl.

Is that even a thing?

A TLC girl.

I think so.

Yeah.

A lot A lot of our audience members are.

Okay.

We got dance moms on TLC.

TLC.

TS to the just.

Yeah.

TLC is thriving.

It's incredible.

Love After Lockup might be on TLC.

All right.

So I feel like it is.

All right.

Fine.

Whatever.

Welcome it with open arms.

Everyone's a Bravo girly.

You need more TLC, girlie.

Yeah.

So true.

Not to give anything away and knowing that there's a season two coming along.

Obviously, like with the office, thinking back, the character arcs that we got to see, like Pam and Jim falling in love, getting married, having a kid, for your character, Nicole,

what would be your dream character arc?

You know, fast forwarding, this, the paper's on for eight, ten seasons.

Ooh,

I don't know.

I'm almost afraid to say it because I don't want to.

jinx anything you know what i mean sure

i would love to see my character's walls break down a little bit more i kind of want to see what's maybe going on inside like why she locks people in a room.

Yeah, exactly.

Amongst other things.

Like she's very guarded.

So I would love to see like what's underneath all of that.

What would be like nightmare scenario character arc?

She's killed off the show.

Yeah.

She dies.

You're out of a job.

A journalist down in the line of fire.

Have you ever been fired?

Yes.

Well, not fired.

I've been gently let go.

Okay.

Gently.

What was the worst AAA you found out that you weren't going to be returning for any type of of job?

What was the worst way?

It was only one time.

It would be the only time.

The only time.

Wait, how did you find out?

I just got a phone call.

I said, don't worry about coming in today.

Yeah, they were just like, you know, it's not you.

Like, you're doing great.

They were just like, this cast is just way too big.

It's getting out of hand.

So we have to get rid of some characters.

And I was like, I understand.

You're like, Yeah, I agree, they gotta go.

They're like, It's you, you're the one.

And I was like, emotional.

And I said something like, You know, this isn't gonna make me quit acting, I'm gonna keep going for it.

You know,

I said that to them.

I was like, I'm gonna keep following my dreams, everything's gonna be okay.

Yeah, pretty much.

She was like, That's wonderful.

Um, and then the next season, season, they hired like a million more actors to be on that show.

So I was like, it's fine.

Well, now look at you.

Sure.

I'm here.

You're on the paper.

You're on the paper.

Already renewed for second season.

So I sure I am.

I bet you that show didn't get automatically renewed for second season.

Well, you know, I still love everyone on the show.

We do.

We love it.

No hard feelings.

I get it.

Whatever.

If Nicole had never worked at the Truth Teller, what do you think she would be doing?

I think she would be working on the dark webs.

I think she would be hacking into people's computers.

Edward Snowden.

Yeah, Edward Snowden.

Do you feel like there's anyone who's like Nicole's type who's also like a co-worker who's also her type, maybe?

Well, she's into married men.

Silly's very toxic.

Her Her character, not me.

She's got some childhood drama.

She's got some drama going on.

Yeah.

Okay.

That's exciting.

That's resurrected.

It is what it is.

I don't write the script.

You just act.

You show up.

Is it more fun to play a character that is a little dark and different from who you are?

I don't really see Nicole maybe as dark.

Maybe she'll get dark moving forward.

But it's nice to have a character that's nuanced.

Yeah.

Was there anyone that you were like kind of impressed with their performance?

Everyone.

I feel like everyone's so different, you know?

Yeah.

Like everyone brings something different.

It's a really fun ensemble of just like a bunch of different kinds of people.

And it really, yeah, I think everyone really has a chance to like grow into their characters.

And I'm really excited that got renewed because I feel like so many sitcoms like don't get renewed anymore.

And then you see one season, you're like, it was getting to that point of like, you know, everyone and you're having so much fun.

You're just hanging out with people you like, and then it's gone.

And so it's really excited to see like where everything can go in season two and just to like see more of it.

Have you been able to watch anything back yet?

I haven't seen the last episode yet.

So I don't really know how it ends.

It could get really dark.

You don't know.

Yeah.

You

is there, you've played it in a lot of, in a, in a lot of comedies.

Is there like a part of you that wants to, like, is that your favorite genre to act in?

Or are you thinking, like, you want to dip your toes into drama or thrillers or anything else?

I've never really thought of myself as a funny person.

Really?

Yeah.

And I don't get it still.

Like, I don't understand.

Okay.

But I'm happy to be here.

Yeah.

Like, I'm happy I got invited.

And we are also.

Thanks.

You're welcome.

So you don't see yourself?

You do see yourself in some dramas and some thrillers because you don't think you're that funny.

I don't know.

Yeah, I could see myself in a lot of different things.

Can you see yourself doing like the scream like horror?

Okay.

I'll draw the line right there.

I would love to, but I don't know if I could do it without laughing like a lot.

Yeah.

But I would love to.

That sounds like so much fun.

Maybe comedy horror.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Mix the two.

What are we doing in the shadows?

It's kind of a comedy.

Comedy horror in a way.

More comedy, less horror.

Yeah, Scream, also comedy horror.

Is it a comedy?

Yeah, it's the original one.

Yeah, the original one is they're all pretty funny.

There's some humor.

I don't, my, I don't know.

I like my favorite movie, Silence of the Lambs, and that movie makes me laugh at times.

So

I don't feel like that one's that funny.

I don't know.

Handle like there's kind of a diva.

Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah.

It just makes me like giggle.

I don't know.

So, yeah, maybe.

I feel like there's so much.

Yeah.

I feel like there's a lot of comedy in horror.

There is.

I think Jordan Peale talks about that

a lot.

Like the timing and the rhythm.

Yeah, I feel like people who are like really, really good at comedy also end up being like really good at horror because you're like hitting that like elevation at the same point.

Do you have any dream actors you would like to work with or directors?

Maybe Jordan Peele?

I really love Guillermo Del Toro.

I just love his work.

I don't know if I'll ever get to work with him, but I'm just speak it into existence.

Okay.

Take it.

I'm just a really big fan.

Yeah.

What about you guys?

I feel like I'm definitely a

scorsese.

You're a Marty girl.

I'm a Marty.

I'm a Marty kind of guy.

Do you see that for me?

I'm a taxi driver, maybe?

Yeah.

Maybe.

I could see you in like a Tarantino thing, too.

I could do that.

Yeah.

I love it.

Mary's got a long list, I'm sure.

He probably came up with Wikipedia.

Yeah, probably.

That's probably

why am I really going in a dark direction today?

You are.

She said all her favorite ones are dead.

It's like David Lynch would be.

No, not David Lynch.

It just happened so recently.

It feels like.

I don't know.

Greta Gerwig.

There we go.

A girl.

Let's go.

Yeah.

It could be the lion, the witch, or the wardrobe.

And that movie.

Is she directing that?

Yeah.

We're not blue.

You sent me this that they canceled the Aristocats live live action movie, live action movie.

They're gonna do it.

Our daughter's really into Aristocats, so we're pretty excited about that.

I know.

Oh, do you have a favorite Disney movie?

Uh, the OG Disney.

I love all like the 90s Disney stuff.

I think that was like peak

like Little Mermaid.

That's like all we've been showing are you.

No, we're

into like the 60s and 70s.

Okay, like 101 Dalmatians.

That was really that long ago.

I don't know why, but like 60s Disney is like, it's really beautiful aesthetically, but it's also, there's something like eerie about it for me.

Like the Dalmatians was scary.

It's pretty intense.

Cinderella was scary.

Cinderella.

Yeah, that one is scary.

I like the artistry.

I definitely, because you can see the animation.

Yeah.

Like in the artistry and the older ones.

Do you think it's like an uncanny valley thing of like seeing the animation is like a little freaky?

Maybe it is.

Yeah.

But I don't know.

90s was like my favorite Disney era.

Are you a little mermaid or Aladdin?

Aladdin.

You recently watched it with I didn't feel like it held up.

He didn't like it.

Why?

Just, I don't know.

I was like, I don't know, Jasmine, Aladdin.

I was like, I don't know.

He didn't believe the love.

Jeannie, Robin Williams.

Robin held up.

But the rest of the story, I don't know.

I don't know what to say to that.

That's okay.

When was the last time you watched it?

It's been a while.

So maybe you'll agree.

I don't know.

I don't think so.

Okay.

Let alone and not.

Well, Rona, this has been so much fun.

Thank you for coming.

Thanks for having me.

Where can people follow you?

All that fun stuff.

And watch the paper.

Well, the paper's on now.

Peacock.

Peacock.

All the episodes are now available streaming when you listen to this.

Yeah.

Check it out.

And then where can people follow you on social at Ramona Bish Young?

Love her.

Nice.

Love that.

I love her.

Would die for her.

Love that bish.

Love that bish.

Thanks for having me.

This was so fun.

Thanks for coming.

Congratulations on everybody.

I can't wait to come back when this is like in its eighth season.

Well, no, come back.

You don't have to wait eight seasons, but I'm really going to be when you're a big, big, huge star.

When you've won like 80 good Julian Emmys.

Don't forget about us.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think.

She already forgot about us.

Where am I?

What am I doing here?

Well, that'll wrap up today's episode.

Thank you to our guests, Justin Sylvester and Ramona Young.

We will see you back on Thursday.

Thanks for listening.

Bye-bye.

Experada salam

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Egg Life Egg White Wraps, the winning play in your mealtime playbook.

Egg Life, sneaky protein.

Find us chilling in the fridge at Aldi, Target, Whole Foods, and more.