E1008 - Lacey Chabert, Teresa Giudice Talks Special Forces, RHOM Finale, RHOC and Selena Gomez’s Wedding
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What's going on, everybody? Welcome back to another
groundbreaking episode of the Valfiles Reality Recap Edition. I am your host, Nick.
We're joining you live. Well, not really.
Well, when you're listening to this, we won't be live.
Currently, in this moment, we're live from the lake house. The new studio at the lake house, I would say, is 95% done.
Also, if you are tuning in, watching with us on YouTube, you might notice that we also... Are in a new studio in LA.
The household is joining us from the new upgraded studio in LA. It's bigger.
It's better. It's beautiful.
Yeah, we're doing big, bad, beautiful things here. Big bad.
Envy media. Susie is joining the household today.
We got Mary. We got Sierra.
It's a jam-packed episode.
A lot of exciting things. Would you say we're, what, we're like 80, 90% done at the LA studio? Those chairs are white.
We're going to.
They're beautiful. It's beautiful here.
Gorgeous.
I can't wait for you to see.
I'm in love. The new carpet smell, the little decow.
It's so bougie i feel well taken care of yeah it's very nice i vlogged coming in i was so excited did you yeah i was vlogging it we were part of susie's vlog i'll tag you guys
no one's quitting anytime soon yay everyone's happy yay
the household rose up they're like we want
Yeah, the household started protesting.
Yeah. Yeah.
Us in our two little rooms. We were a little stressed out.
We're growing, you know, it used to be a small operation. Now we're, well, still small, but we're a lot bigger.
No, don't be humble. This is crazy.
I'm not even gonna lie. This is crazy.
This looks like Sterling Cooper Draper Price. I don't know who that is, but Slay, Sterling Cooper.
Slay.
Imagine what our guests are going to say when they come in now. Because before they'd come in, they're like, oh my God, you're like a real show.
I think sometimes when people say podcasts, I think they expect to show up in my garage.
I don't have a garage in LA, but, you know, either way, we're excited.
Join us in the comments, I guess, if
you like what you see. I mean,
it's a very similar aesthetic to what we used to have, but better. But better.
And we got a cozy little dynamic. My wife and I are now facing each other, making great eye contact, falling in love.
At any moment during the episode, we may just like you may we just might break away and start just
wow,
yeah, maybe it's all about eye contact.
Maybe we will do that. I don't know.
Nick is also f now, everyone. Whoa, I don't know what
I had a birthday. I don't know why you have to okay don't adriana demora us
you look 25
times two minus five yeah
32 last year 25 plus 45 minus five
isn't that what Kiki said to Adriana. She was like, you look amazing for your age.
No, that was crazy. It was a birthday.
It was an amazing birthday. Let's all talk about the amazing gifts that Natalie and River got me.
I'm wearing them. They're my new Tocova cowboy boots.
Not an ad, even though I've been telling Takova they need to sponsor their boots on this show. My wife is what got me into cowboy boots.
I am like, spoiler alert, this may surprise many of you, but I am not a real cowboy. And I'm.
I'm a checker.
Wait, really?
And I'm not like...
The most masculine guy out there. And I never would have thought that I could love cowboy boots, but it was my wife who bought them for me.
And as a city slicker, I got to tell you, I really, first of all, incredibly comfortable, incredibly versatile. They pair well with jeans.
They pair well with dress pants. This is turning into an odd.
Let's more talk about birthday gifts itself. It's really not.
Anyways, you can even see the logo. They didn't pay for this, so let's go.
I really did.
So as you can see, Natalie Rivers' handprint.
Zoom in, if you could, please. I don't know if that's possible.
There's also a V on. Wait, are you serious?
And then I put the year 25 because I wanted to always remember the size of her handprint was when it was then.
Wait, that's the cutest thing.
Anyways, it's an incredibly incredible gift. We did Packer colors.
We really put some thought into it. And that was very thoughtful, not as the handprint's amazing.
And I got
y'all wondering. Natalie forced me to open the gift around friends.
Forced? I was like, do you want to open your gift before your friends leave town? And then they were like, oh my gosh, yes, yes.
We want to see. So I had to hold back the tears.
Yeah. But I have to say, my original plan was a pair of Converse to paint because it's like canvas side, you know?
I was like, that'll be easy, whatever. But they don't last.
But then I was looking around the closet and there were every color. I mean, he has every color of Converse.
I'm like, he doesn't need.
This is an amazing gift. Another.
So me and Shug took River to the mall and
saw Takovas. And I was like, oh, maybe I'll just get him a new pair of boots.
So then we walked in and I was like, can I paint on leather? Like, can I just get, like, can I do this on these boots?
And Shog was like, I think it'll like peel off. And so I was asking the sales associate, like, do y'all know of any paint? And they were like, we actually do that here.
Like our manager is a, like, was a tattoo artist. So she's, she can paint anything on the boots.
Like we have the leather.
paint and they're like we can brand we can do whatever and i was like love that she's talented that's amazing that she like can do anything i want but i was hoping my 19 month old daughter could paint and she was like um probably Let me, let me go talk to her.
There's a lot of talking with the manager, pulling out all the paints. It's like, keep out of children's eyes and reach.
And they were like, you need to just sign this waiver, please.
And we got it done. And it was cute.
Wow. And we loved it.
It's an amazing gift. Yeah.
It was a great birthday.
I mean, obviously, I got to spend it at the new lake house with my parents, with my family. It was really, it was really great.
It honestly made me think of some of the other birthdays I have.
And just a little motivation out there for any of you all who maybe had a birthday recently. I've had some birthdays where I was like, what's the point? Honestly, I haven't.
You know, there's been a couple of those where it's just like, I'm a total loser. I mean, honestly, I think, I don't know if somewhere around my 38th, maybe 36th, 7th, 39th.
Mind you, this is after the bachelor run, Dancing with the Stars. I'm in Hollywood.
I spent one of my birthdays with people I don't even remember, didn't even know.
And at like 1.30 in the morning, I was at an IHOP. Hell yeah.
Wasn't, didn't you also spend your 40th like in the house, like eating Chinese food? Well,
that was fine. No, Ashley and Jared came over.
Ashley and Jared. And I had just bought my first new house.
So that was a cool milestone. I felt accomplished after that.
It was definitely better than being with strangers at an IHOP. At an IHOP at one in the morning.
Not every birthday is meant to be. you know, a win, but this one was.
This one was pretty good.
Living out the dream at the lake house
the lake house is it's great i don't know it's uh we obviously spent a lot of time moving in very busy days i'm wearing the sweatshirt of the builders
uh colms and uh vircullen
uh jeremy and greg shout out jeremy and greg they crushed it if you are thinking about building a new home or remodeling also not an ad i don't
no no this is a shout out we spent so much money with these people and they were like and here's a free sweatshirt
like let me talk about you on my podcast. Yeah, yeah, no, so the they're both related to the guy who bought the house from my grandfather.
Oh, wow.
And one of the builders, Jeremy, was telling me that, like, he used, when he was a kid, used to come up here, like, I came up here on the lake. So we really kept it in the family, so to speak.
But they did amazing work. They did all of this in like eight, seven months.
I think they're pretty booked up. But, you know, give them a call.
I think
columns.com. good luck finding that guys yeah
just zoom into a sweatshirt don't worry can you zoom in give it
i don't know if that's possible anyways it's uh it's really been incredible have you been having fun yeah of course i think i have you know now that we have river i definitely am just full of anxiety all the time so being like next to water we have a lot of rock decor outside landscaping rocks and i'm just like it's a lot of big boulder rocks and i'm like you know
it was different when she was a potato but the house is gorgeous all the furniture that now the interior decorated the shit out of the house all the little fixtures all the little designs yeah I did all that stuff by myself but I did have Sarah Petticord help with the inside furniture because I was just
after picking out every single hardware and paint color I was like I don't think I could find a couch if you did the designer of the stars apparently yeah I think she did Mallie Cyrus' house I don't know also
kind of cool I don't know if you all noticed, but Lana Del Rey posted her wedding photos. It's her anniversary.
One-year anniversary. Yeah.
If you guys take a peek at that wedding dress and take a peek at Nally's wedding photos. Welcome party.
The welcome party photos.
They used the same designer. And Lana wore a dress named after our daughter River.
The river. So I love it.
What a fun little connection for us. I don't know if Lana cares.
She'll probably be mad that we're talking about it. No, I think Lana's sentimental.
She'll be like, like love that that was named after your daughter that's so sweet yeah beautiful photos that she shared i mean sync just does amazing jobs with wedding dresses anyway so the fact that like lana wore it is like just it's meant to be you know did you guys see selena gomez speaking of weddings
got married speaking of weddings yeah she posted her instagram i have a question for everybody though What do you feel like, I feel like her photo drop on Instagram was like very trendy, like all blurry photos.
Kind of looks like 1950s-esque, where you're like, oh my God, they didn't have a proper camera. I'm sure there was like real photos documented, but like, how do we feel about the super blurry, trendy?
It's a vibe, right? Kind of feel that's giving like great Gatsby almost in a way. It is, yeah.
It's beautiful. It's beautiful.
Like, you had to be there. You had to be there.
Yeah. That's actually, that's actually so true.
So true.
Here's like, oh, God, if only I was there.
Right, exactly. I wonder, do we know who planned her wedding? Did she have like a celebrity wedding planner or was it like in the family? Like a.
I think we should acknowledge that she married Benny Blanco. I think we did.
Benny Blanco. Yeah,
her and Benny Blanco. That's so real.
I really like the photos. I think it's like, I think so much wedding photography looks very, very similar.
Yeah.
And it all, yeah, everything, like regardless of the vibe of your wedding, it all kind of ends up looking.
like high definition and i feel like there's so much more like emotion and you can really like feel a lot of the stuff there when like stuff is shot like on film or just like a little grainy of just kind of i don't know like a little imperfect because i think when wedding photos are like super super perfect it kind of takes away from the authenticity of it yeah yeah
i also just like a vibey photo i also kind of like how this vet how this wedding seems like it's a very like low-key event like did it happen did you get an invitation nobody knows but it's like Taylor Swift at Sheer.
Like you know it's going to be like the hugest like A-list guest list, but it like looks like there's only two people there from what they posted yeah no i love that i love that she posted the polaroids like took a picture of the polaroid photos on her carpet
she's still one of us truly at the end of the day yeah i love selena gomea so much i'm so actually i'm so happy that her and taylor are like in their wifey era i feel like they've been through the trenches and it like gives it gives people hope you know they've really seen the worst of it and they're both seemingly being treated very well.
Not to push a lifestyle on you guys, but I got to say, just the married life, it crushes. Sarah, I'm working on it.
I just got engaged. And I'm
loving it.
And Susie was just partying with her ex, so I feel like you're kind of getting close to it. Wait, what were you doing, Susie? Yeah, partying with my ex.
Hun. Which ex
on my rooftop.
He's been to the house. At Justin? Yeah.
Yeah. Justin.
I had like
pretty much most of the LA Bachelor in Paradise cast at my house this weekend. Oh.
We were all at like an event for, yeah, game night.
We were at like an ESPN event and then literally just like, we just kept going and we were drinking and we were like, let's just do a game night.
And it just kind of spiraled into like everyone come over and we grilled on my roof. Give us the roster.
Who was there? Okay. Listen.
We had Justin, Andrew, Alex, Leia, Rachel, Marshall Glaze was there. And then somebody, Jonathan, Jonathan, of course, ESPN came.
I'm pretty sure. Or Disney.
I'm not sure which one. Maybe both.
Not partying with the reps. Like an employee or like Calendar No, like an employee.
Okay. And I was like, yeah, it was like,
so did y'all all go to like the grocery store and get stuff to grill out? Did you, is your house just stocked or did you instacart?
My house was like low-key kind of stock because I had a summer I turned pretty finale party. So I had like a lot of leftover drinks and like beverages, some snackies.
But Andrew volunteered to go get like grilling stuff. And then I instacarted Instacarted Kane's chicken as well.
Obviously. Because it sounded great.
So who won the game night? What games?
You guys actually turned like so weird. We were doing like improv games.
And like, I actually at one point was like, oh my God, I really hope my neighbors like can't hear us right now because we were taking like let's yes and yes. Yeah.
It really was like a yes and night.
I love fishbowl. But we were like all drunk by the end and like maybe I had a THC drink and I was just like, I think it just got really weird.
Like, but nobody felt uncomfortable. So I think.
So
thank God. Just a lot of improv on my roof.
It got kind of, you know, kind of, kind of freaky. Did you kiss anybody? No.
No. Boring.
No one. No.
I didn't see anybody kiss.
Alex and Andrew still in love? Yes. They're so, they're actually even cuter.
Oh my God. They're more in love.
They're more in love. Yeah.
I've got words for that therapist. Yeah, me too.
Is Jonathan still single? Yes. Yeah.
As far as I know. Okay.
Have you guys seen the Mr. Fantasy? Yes.
Yes. Mr.
Fantasy. Yeah.
That is my type. Yeah.
Like, no. KJ Appa or Mr.
Fantasy? No, Mr. Fantasy.
Like, KJ Appa, like, I can acknowledge a handsome man, but like, Mr. Fantasy is my type.
Can you, what, what is the difference? I don't, I'm unfamiliar with Mr. Fantasy.
Is this like
Garth Brooks
alter ego? Like, what was it? What was Garth Brooks' alter ego?
I don't know. But it's kind of like, you know, Mike Myers, Austin Powers, I would say more so than Garth Brooks.
Oh, my God. Yeah.
Is Mr. Fantasy a character AJ played? Well, no.
There are some theories that like maybe this is all like a marketing ploy, which would be really disappointing. But no, he's just like this alter ego.
I think it started like a month or so ago on TikTok and he's just like. taking on this full persona he has like prosthetic teeth and
is actually kj appa or is it someone pretending to be kj appa no it is him but he's not even acknowledged it as himself so like everyone's just put it together and it's a full new Instagram account.
And this is your type?
Like we like, I didn't know, but
the teeth are crazy. I think it's just the teeth.
So you're saying that like if you, if it were the 70s and like you had met one of the Rolling Stones, you would have been down bad.
You would have been down.
I would think so.
You would have been penny lane and almost famous running around. So yeah.
And I didn't even know it until I started seeing the videos and I was like, oh, this is my type. So what did you post?
Well, I posted me dancing to his song and he commented and reposted it on his story. And so I feel like maybe that means something, right? Yeah.
Are you dating Mr. Fantasy? I think you're Mr.
Fantasy's number one groupie. I think so.
Oh, by the way, Mr. Fantasy makes music.
Yes. Yeah.
Yeah. He created a song.
Yeah. Okay.
It's very interesting. It's really fun.
And he's blown up.
He's got like a million followers in like a month. So
kind of a star. Could be AJ.
No, you need to make a Vic Nile account.
Oh my God, yes.
And boy. Vic Nile.
A wig and sunglasses. Well, people think the wig that he's wearing is Mr.
Fantasy is the dark Betty wig from Riverdale. If there are any Riverdale fans in that.
But what does Vic Niall do? He raps. Oh my gosh.
The gal is like a hardcore, like West Coast. Oh, I was thinking like maybe you could really lean into the cowboy of it all, you know? Like you've got the new boots.
It could really be like, you could be a real West Coast. Like the masculine version of me.
Yes.
I can see that. Lumperjacking.
Yeah, you should do like
lasso wing awful. What was that guy Norm McDonald did on Celebrity Jeopardy? And he had the mustache and the big hat.
Burt Reynolds.
Burt Reynolds. Yes.
Yeah.
Well, we have an amazing episode lined up for you guys. Lacey Shaber joins us later this episode.
You know her from Mean Girls and all of your favorite Hallmark holiday Christmas movies.
She has several projects coming up and she joins us later this episode to talk about them. Also talk about her time on Mean Girls.
A lovely, lovely person and a very just charming interview.
Just very nostalgic, very fun. We also have a great week lined up for you.
Tomorrow's Going Deeper is with Amy Duggar King.
If you are familiar with the Duggar family, and all the craziness, some darkness that went on with that family. Well, Amy is with us tomorrow to talk about that experience.
She gets into the nitty-gritty details. She has a new book coming out talking about that experience.
It's an episode you will not want to miss.
Also, on Thursday's episode of Reality Recap, Rachel Lindsay joins the show to talk some real housewives of Salt Lake City. We'll just catch up with Rachel.
It would be great to do that as well.
I think we also have some dancing with the stars coverage. Love is Blind premieres this week.
So that is something we'll also get into on Thursday's episode of Reality Recap. So a lot of fun ahead this week.
In case you haven't listened to already we had teresa judice last week on a going deeper episode for the ages if you haven't gotten to know teresa judice and the real teresa this is an episode you do not want to miss she is also appearing on special forces that came out last thursday with her daughter gia and because we didn't want to have any spoilers we have a quick clip coming up shortly about Teresa talking about her special forces experience in episode one.
It's a jam-packed cast cast
filled with a lot of Bravo people. You had Brittany Cartwright.
She was on it for a few minutes. Went home.
I blinked.
You know, I respect someone who goes into a situation and goes, No, this isn't for me. I was going to say, she made it further than I would have.
I was like, the second that they yelled at me or pushed my face into mud, I'd be like, yeah, I'm out of here.
I feel like they kind of did her dirty by showing the clip of her saying, oh, my ex told me you're not going to make it far.
I was like, y'all could have cut that because they could, but this is a TV show. No, you're right.
You're right.
The empath really hurts. It's for the Bravo people to get us to watch to be like, oh, maybe she'll prove him wrong.
I hope she does.
Well,
outside of social sources, I watched it and she went home. Yeah.
But as I
said, and it really only took, was it Q being like, you're going to take it off? She's like, absolutely. She was like, yes.
Thank you for asking.
Oh, you want this? Okay, sure. Here you go.
I love that she kind of kept using an excuse to make herself feel better where she was just like, I'm sorry. Like, I just can't catch my breath.
Or like, my stomach hurts or whatever it is and it's just like just know you're going home right i'm like guys i can't have a headache
also on it are jesse james decker and eric decker uh a couple husband and wife duo and they joined us for a going deeper episode two weeks ago uh they you got to check that out they really i love how they talk about their relationship and how they are a team both obviously on special forces but really in life uh a very charming interview be sure to check that out if you haven't already oh mark estes joined us last week he's also on special forces You might know him as a Montana boy.
Also, people were coming for me saying that like I lost the plot of who's iconic. And I feel like iconic really only means like someone people were picking on me because I said Summer Ray
pretty like household name. I don't know.
Like people were like, who?
Who?
Natalie says everyone's iconic. I'm like, sorry, I'm a nice person and you are rude.
Clearly. To some people, Summer Ray is iconic.
Yeah. Like, I think you're totally valid in that.
And I think it's just maybe the wrong demographic. Pick that one up because that's on them.
Yeah. I was like, were you not trapped inside your house during 2020? Yeah.
You were right on that one. I know who she is.
And if Mary knows who she is, she's iconic. What's your favorite part about her, Mary? Um, she, her personality, you know, of course.
I was gonna say that ass.
Oh,
she, oh, she's having her ass.
Yeah, yeah. Good ass.
Summer, summer ray. Yeah.
Summer ray. You have a good ass.
I've been told.
Well, be sure to check out Special Forces. But here is Teresa talking a little bit about her Special Forces experience.
And if you want to catch the rest of her interview, again, it's last week's Going Deeper. But right now, here's a little Teresa Judice.
On the first episode, I thought, well, you are a saint because you offered to clean up everyone's poop. No, I didn't offer.
That was one of my, that was, you get, everyone gets, a job duty. Yeah.
And oh, you had bathroom duty? Yeah, that was my. No, you said if anyone goes,
please tell me so I can clean it immediately.
Well, because you're right. You have to put
everyone gets a job. So, you know, I don't know.
But you took it like a champ, though. You weren't.
No, but what I learned is like, that was the best job I could have got because I was, it was the first day. And no one wants to go to the bathroom the first day.
Exactly.
Everyone's like, I'm just holding this shit.
Exactly. Like, who wants to go?
No, in a bucket, on plywood. Yeah.
No. There was a bat.
The bathroom was made.
Have you ever watched a Western? Yeah. You know, the outhouse is made out of wood with like a hole in it.
That's it.
That is what you use for the restroom. And there was 18 of us, because Gia was number 18, I was number 17.
There was 18 of us in one shower. No.
Yeah. One shower outside.
I took one shower the whole week. You did?
Didn't have time. They were kicking our asses.
Because you guys had 10 days. We only had eight days.
And I think it has to do with when you guys are in the desert. It gets so hot.
They're they're like safety concerns they can they can't oh yeah you can do things but with us it was like 30 degrees so we just went like 18 hours all day long and there was just we didn't have time wow you're amazing good for you well obviously you had watched a couple so you kind of knew what to expect but were you shocked to hear just how aggressive the ds's are I mean, I know
you're like, that's mean. Yeah, no, I saw how mean they were.
I was just like, in my interview, I was was like, they better not push me like they did Denise Richards, like in her chest, like off the boat. Remember how hard they pushed her? Yeah.
Like so hard into the, into the ocean? Yeah. I was like, if they do that to me, I'll just die.
I'll die just right there.
I'm like, if you, and I said to him in my interview, I'm like, if you want me to die, then do that. I'm like, please.
I'm like, do you want a liability? Yeah. I'm like, please don't do that.
Cause that would. like i first of all i would be shocked like that was rough like just push especially because I don't know how to swim and being thrown into the ocean like that.
You're not prepared.
You haven't had time to cover it.
And I have breast implants. Like, you cannot do that to me.
With that first, what were you doing? The come jumping off the helicopter and scaling. Scaling? Is that what it's called? No.
Repelling.
Repelling. Was that harder than what it looks? Because it looks like it would be easy.
But then obviously
it looks easy. It looks like, oh, you just like pull the thing to the side and you just go down kind of slow.
Like Like, it looks like kind of fun.
I mean, the thing is, like, it's really high up and you have to learn the technique. I mean, I did hurt my hand because my hand got stuck.
So
this, right, the top of my hand was black and blue and bruised really hard. Like I hit my
because my hand got stuck. So it's like, you know, I thought I thought I was like, I got this, but then my hand got stuck.
I think, I mean, Nick, I remember him always saying this, like, when we were watching back his season when it was airing. And And it was like,
it happens so quick and they're yelling at you. Yeah.
So it's like, and the helicopter's so loud. I mean, it's just a lot.
It's a huge. And there's really no training.
Yeah. No, exactly.
This is how you do it. Oh, yeah.
And exactly. So they just throw like, just to go.
And I'm like, oh, my God. So it's like, exactly.
Like, you can't even take five minutes to like make sure you have it right. And like, because it was so fast.
Like, that's why my hand got stuck. Yeah.
So like, watch this.
And he's like 200 yards away, you know with the demo right so
so it was it was it was scary but i'm glad i did it i always wanted to jump out of a helicopter so now i can say i did it
i'm curious how how far teresa will go me too i think having someone with you that like can motivate you will make you go a little bit further she's one tough cookie she's one tough cookie yeah i wouldn't i wouldn't mess with her i also think her with her daughter i feel like that can has to push you so far even the way she was talking to her and she was like i wanted to quit but like i knew that you were there i'm like oh my god i I wanted to cry.
No, having that moral support is honestly huge. There, just like
I, they asked me to send like Nick a video, and I don't know when you, how far along you got that video at the very end. Oh, perfect.
Okay, well, no, but it was really gonna say that was the reason stayed so long.
It helped me finish for sure.
It really did. I will say my favorite Teresa moment was them calling her stupid or something, and she just goes, That's not nice.
No, it's amazing. So cute.
so cute
i love that i feel like she handled herself really well because i was like this is not the teresa i'm used to on jersey i was like i was expecting her to push back and be like whoa whoa whoa what what is this but she's outside of her comfort zone yeah i wonder if she will give some pushback though like are we gonna see a little sass oh my god or like what if she win i don't know if they handle sass very well no they definitely don't
i'm definitely already like falling for the edits, I will say. I'm like, oh my gosh.
Like feeling annoyed at certain people. You know what I mean? We're episode one.
Like, who?
What's his name, Jesse? Jesse? Oh, Jesse Smollett. Yeah.
Yeah. Like, oh, yeah, he knows who I am.
Right. He knows like that.
I mean, he knows everything about me.
It's like, I think he just said he recognized. Maybe he's a fan of your work.
I actually thought the guy responded kind of nicely. Yeah, Cody.
Yeah. I was like, oh, I didn't think he.
Yeah, Jesse, Jesse Smollett.
Well, you know. He's
an interesting guy.
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Something I want to say. Guys, you're going to have to just awkwardly listen while I speak to my wife right now.
Okay.
Like, I'm really proud of us. I don't know if I say that enough to us, but like we, we're so busy and we do a lot of stuff together.
And I think sometimes like our life gets so hectic, but I love, I just, I just love how much we're a team.
And it's just, you know, like every day we get a little stressed out, you know, but like, I think my favorite thing about you is this, you're just, you're always up for a challenge.
No, I don't know if you feel this way, but like, it is so easy to like feel disconnected sometimes. Yeah.
Like, you know, sometimes I think in relationships, you just feel like you always assume like your partner like can read your mind sometimes, you know, and like sometimes like that, you know, they always say, like, distance, like that quietness will create distance.
I don't know. But
I'm just very appreciative that you, we, we, we're always mindful of that, you know? Yeah. Anyways, like, I'm just, uh,
I'm glad I have a teammate.
And, um, you know, and um, I'm just, I am just proud of us because I just think we, I don't know, like, I, I'm, I'm just the type of person who's always worried about like what's around the corner.
Like, I, it's hard for me to enjoy things, especially this weekend with the house being done and everything going great. It's always like,
what the fuck's gonna happen? You know, anyways, it's this.
You've done a good job of living in the moment, though. I'm doing my best, you know, but thanks for helping me out.
I'm just like, yeah, I mean, Nally's just so good at that. She's,
I just think, yeah, other times it just, I know like our, we will have a stressful life, but like Nally's usually up for it, you know, she's always up for like,
I really feel like I have, I have a partner in the best possible way. Even though I throw in a couple complaints.
It's not bad. You're not a nag, which is so great.
It's really great.
And when you are naggy, I just, you know. Ignore me.
Yeah.
Generally speaking, I mean, compared to like, there's, I don't know, I just feel like there's a lot of couple. I mean, we've, we've hung out with couples.
And also just like how we speak to each other in public is, I think, generally a pretty something I'm glad that we. we do a good job of.
We've hung out with other couples where it was like, if we ever talk that way to each other around people, and some people are just so comfortable doing it. Should we get a queen-size bed?
No.
That's really cool. Can we talk about me? Sure, Mayor.
Thanks.
That was cute. That was cute.
Yeah. Yeah.
No, very soft. So cute.
I love that for you guys.
Oh, yeah. Mary's like, I don't want that lifestyle.
Yeah. I don't like that.
That's your life.
Yeah, that's awesome.
I just found out something insane, right? So, okay. I promise.
So this past weekend, my sister, um aaron is pregnant shout out aaron older younger
older she is 35. hey she's pregnant with her first daughter congratulations
yeah
aaron yeah anyway so i'm home for this baby shower right and i you weren't to florida this weekend yeah pop off yeah
yeah yeah you approved my pto
i don't like i don't i'm just
send us any photos yeah so like I'm home at this baby shower. And yesterday before I left, I'm going through all of the things and helping my sister unpack all the gifts I got for her.
And I was like, babies need a lot of shit. And I didn't know that.
Mary babies
need so much shit.
They're so small, but they need so much.
All they do is poop and pee and cry. And then they grow out of shit.
So you have to buy more shit. So fast.
Yeah. Did you change a diaper? Well, no, the baby's not there yet.
She's still pregnant.
Will you change a diaper? I'd be down to. The thing is, like, my siblings like kind of raised me because they were all like teenagers when I was a little baby.
So I kind of feel like I owe them
that. Yeah, you do.
Because they, you know, changed my diapers. But then at the same time, my sister said, I'm not hot enough to have tattoos.
So your sister said that to you. She did say it.
Well, in so many words. Do you don't have tattoos? No.
And I was like, guys, I think I should get a tattoo. And my sister was like.
I don't think you have to be hot to get a tattoo. That's what I said.
And she was like, I don't know if you're hot enough with that.
But that being said, you are hot.
exactly that being said you are hot thank you um aaron anyway i just had to get i was really nice to her this weekend so i really needed to say something mean so you had to get your human talk no that reminds me of when we were setting up the rivers like bathroom here and so me and nick's mom mary went to like target and got the like non-slip you know, for the bathtub little sticky suction thing and got her a bunch of like bath toys and whatever.
And I like filled up the bathroom. And then I, it made me think that like, oh, this is also the guest bathroom.
And my best friend Shambla says, like, there's nothing more overstimulating than taking a shower at your friend's house who has a baby.
And it's like the step stool, all the things in the shower, like all the toothpaste and all the baby. Like, she's just like, it's so overstimulating.
Like, you cannot relax.
And then when they move into the toddler stage and there's like locks on the toilet and you're like, how the fuck do I open this?
There's locks on everything. You're like, I'm just trying to get the extra toilet paper in here.
Literally. Heaven forbid, it's an emergency.
No, exactly. I've had that happen.
It's terrifying.
My sister's also pregnant, by the way, and she had her gender reveal this weekend.
It's a girl.
I know. How did they do the gender reveal? They did it in my parents' backyard and they did like poppers or something.
Yeah. That is cute.
That is cute. They FaceTimed me in.
Did you think it was a girl or did you think it was a boy? Well, she wanted, I mean, they were happy with whatever, but she was like, I want a boy. And so I was like, you're going to get a girl.
What are unacceptable gender reveals? Fire, yeah, anything with explosives. Like, we did the whole balloon popping, seemed good.
I was happy with it.
Yeah, I think the fireworks, you know, anything with live animals, anything that can cause the city of Los Angeles to have a cataclysmic event, right?
Probably not good. Dyeing a living thing a color, right?
I think the biting into the cupcake one is tough because then your like mouth is full of cupcake and you can't really celebrate. You're like,
also, I'm off sugar, so not possible. Nick wanted us to river, and Nick was like, What if we
had someone deliver flowers in like all blue or all pink? That's cute. Flowers.
And I was like, okay, it'd be cute. Yeah.
But then we'd have to open up the front door together.
You know, that's cute, actually. Can you imagine
this really insane reaction to the person delivery person? They're like, okay, sorry. Right.
They're like, oh my God. They're like, what?
Right.
Right. Oh, Leo wants me to say that she did the cupcakes.
Did y'all see the one with the wig? Where they, where the mom was in on it, they popped the balloon and nothing came out. And then the mom had on like a wig.
She pulled it off and then she had on like the color and it was, it was ecstatic. Like it was very lit.
It was super cute and also like out of way to make that about you. Literally.
Let's talk about me. That's what it exactly was.
Somehow that all became about the mom. About the mom.
Is there a world where we'll ever not do a gender reveal and just wait for the actual
i don't think so because like i mean people you know i don't know people are always like there's not a lot of surprises left in life and it's like it's going to be a surprise either way like it's a surprise if you pop a balloon it's a surprise if you if the doctor's like it's a girl it you know it's like it's always going to be a surprise so you're just like prolonging the surprise i guess i enjoyed finding out because especially as a father it's it's very it's it's just harder to connect with your baby well it's easy to to start picturing your life.
Yeah.
It's a lot more fun. My brother waited for his second child.
And it was actually really cool because we had no idea. It also saved everybody a ton of money.
You know what I mean? Leading up to it.
Because you're just buying like necessities. Right, necessities, neutrals.
And so you're like, okay, we'll wait. And then it was really exciting when
people weren't buying like girl clothes or boy clothes or something? It saved me money, I guess I should say. Yeah.
Like you get so excited when you find out the gender and you're like, oh my gosh, I'm going to buy a mermaid costume. Yeah.
Yeah.
My thing, I was like, obviously, as I said before, I don't know what babies need. So I wanted to get something like from the heart, you know? So I got this like little like music box
and it plays Swan Link because I was a little wine drunk when I was ordering it. And then I heard the melody and I started crying.
I was like, she's going to, because she might be a Scorpio.
So I was like, she's going to need a melancholy melody that's very feminine in her life.
And then like all the like my like cousins, kids and stuff that were there were like obsessed when they heard it. And I was like, I ate.
Wow, that's a good one.
Yeah. But then she was like, I would have loved burp cloths.
But then someone else got them for her.
Well, I'm not currently in the business of obsession with babies, but what I am obsessed with right now is the drama going on in the Bravo sphere between.
Tamara and Sheena Shea and then Sheena Shea and Lala Kent.
And so if you're not familiar, Tamara went on Watch What Happens Live and during a game was asked a question along the lines of, who are you looking least forward to running into at BravoCon?
Without hesitation, Tamra answered Sheena Shea based off the podcast episode Tamara wasn't present for, where Katie, Janella, and Teddy discussed that Sheena is actually the one who was responsible for telling Kiki Monique about the outcome of Naked Wasted and Gretchen going to the hospital.
Sheena recently did a podcast where she was asked about it and claimed that Tamra is behind stirring the pot.
and that Gretchen never lies, which I think is hysterical because we literally just watched Gretchen lie straight to Tamra's face.
And also during the episode episode of Watch What Happens Live, Tamra also let it be known that at ABC Upfront, Sheena and Brock told her that it was Sheena's dream to be an Orange County housewife, to which Andy responded, I thought her dream was dancing with the stars.
Savage. Yeah, so savage.
Which also leads me into less upfront drama between Sheena and Lala.
A week or two ago, Lala did an Amazon live where she was asked about Sheena and she responded, Sheena is just Sheena-ing, which people watching thought it sounded like shade.
Come to find out Lala has been on every big cast trip in the Valley and Sheena hasn't filmed at all for The Valley. So this confirmed or is this a rumor?
This, uh, it's confirmed that Sheena has not filmed for the valley, and that Lala has been on cast trips. Yeah, didn't they just go on a cast trip?
They just went to a cast trip to San Diego, and Zach posted a photo. Uh, the only two people who are not like confirmed cast members are Lala and Tom Schwartz, and they were both in the photo.
No Sheena, no Brock. Beautiful.
Love some Tom Schwartz, right? So then the rumor has it that Bravo was upset with how Sheena handled the press for her book. I don't know if it also has to do with
how they kept the secret of the affair during the last season of Vanderpump Rules, but people are thinking that this is a repercussion. Why would they be upset with it?
Just because like Sheena kept it for herself? Didn't she kind of shade Bravo?
She was, yeah, she was throwing a lot of shade about Bravo and production and all of these things throughout her press interviews.
So it's like Bravo was catching strays left and right because Sheena was on her high horse at that moment, obviously. But it sounds like she's buying for an orange holding spot.
And one thing I will give her: I said, regardless, no one can take away from her that she is a New York best-selling author. So true.
So true. Don't you care?
No. I'm a USA Today, best-selling author.
Get it.
Yeah. You have to sell 10,000 copies, I believe,
nationwide to become a best-selling author. It's about your pre-orders or something like that.
Well, also, Nick, it's like USA, New York. You know, USA today is a whole gun shape.
Yeah. New York wants a whole USA.
But yeah, Tamara's not looking forward to seeing Sheena. And then Adriana was also on that episode.
And she's also not looking forward to seeing Sheena because Sheena caused drama between her and Captain Cutie, which is Captain Jason from Below Deck.
Apparently, Adriana and
Captain Jason were dating for a minute there and that Sheena got involved texting him and that they stopped. speaking.
I love that Below Deck is always at the scene of the crime.
So BravoCon is coming up and like I couldn't be more excited that we're actually going to have boots on the ground to tell us what is going on because the drama is going to be palpable.
I believe I'm making my first BravoCon appearance.
Vic Nile will be there, everybody. I'm so proud.
I can't reveal with who yet, but
I'm working with a company and I will be taking photos with fans. One of my favorite things to do.
If you know me, you know it's a real dream to engage with the people. Yeah.
You are a man of the people. What a thrill.
I'm I'm excited about BravoCon. Yeah.
I wonder if you'll hear or see any of these like rumblings.
I'm wondering
what Bravo celebs will want to hang out with me. They'd be smart too.
You know what I mean?
Like if you're chatting about their shows, it's like. You know what I've found out over the weekend? Shep Rose is exactly one day older than me.
Oh.
So we're both.
45th birthday, Shep Rose.
Wait, Natalie, are you going? No. Well, we got to
put an electric fence around him in case Adriana sees him in person. That's so real.
She's going to be like, remember she said for one night.
Right.
He did get a hall pass, right? Yeah, no, you did give him a one-day hall pass.
For Adriana? Yeah, sure. If you want it.
I love that.
Nick Damora.
Do you want to listen to the dog song again? Because
I love my dog.
I love to cuddle with my dog. I love my toothbrush.
It's giving Phoebe from friends. It is.
Do you think Bad Bunny will perform that at the Super Bowl halftime show? Oh, my God. It is your musical guest for the halftime show of this year's Super Bowl.
I love how everyone's like, it's going to be Taylor. It's going to be Taylor.
Yeah. I was told it was Adele.
Yeah, I heard Adele Pass. Adele Pass? I heard that.
She like passed. I think she's passed several times.
Adele passed. It doesn't feel like...
I love Adele, but I don't know that it feels like the vibe, you know?
Yeah, I feel like Bad Bunny throws a party. You know, Adele, you sit your ass down and listen.
Yeah, yeah, I would fuck with Adele, Adele.
You would, yeah, it's not really, yeah, it's not really like the hype vibe of Super Bowl. Yeah, I know.
When J-Lo did the Super Bowl halftime show, like, I didn't even realize how big of a fan I was of hers until like every song, and I was like up dancing the entire time.
So, I think I agree with you, like, where I'm like, I would be singing, maybe sobbing if Adele was performing.
But, like, you do want to like dance and be like, all right, finally, I can get a break from this football.
Well, hopefully, the Super Bowl won't end in a tie like the Packer Cowboys game ended on my birthday.
But at least they didn't lose. I don't know.
Maybe that would have been better. A tie was really just fucking lame.
Which I didn't even know you could tie in.
Like, I thought when you go into overtime, you go, you do like second overtime, third overtime, not just the SEC.
I know some of you aren't going to care about this little rant, but like the NFL has continued to change their overtime rules a little bit for the better.
But then it used to be just another quarter, which is 15 minutes. For some reason, now it's 10.
It doesn't make any fucking sense. It was annoying.
I don't know. I don't know what, like,
you know, imagine, imagine a housewife fight that just ended in a tie. Like, both sides forgive.
But, like, do we have to guess which team's going to win?
Because we just know the Chiefs are going to win because Taylor Swift's husband doesn't lose. Well, they lost.
Well, the Chiefs famously lost last year. Yeah.
Kind of washed, if you ask me.
It shows I didn't watch. Yeah.
The Steelers also were in Ireland and won. And I actually watched a Steelers game because I was home and had to.
But I enjoyed it. Yeah, you were.
I feel like I need to freshen up on my Bad Bunny songs, you know? Do you think he'll ask you to be part of the musical act since you were in a Bad Bunny video? I was going to say, don't you know one?
That's so true. Yes, I am going to be a backup dancer.
That's my wife.
Yes, if you do not know, I am in the music video for Ojitos Lindos.
Yeah, that's me in there. Mex.
I'm in the mix. I'm on a couple dates with Bad Bunny.
Wait, really? Yep, that's me in there. We did a drive-in movie the other day.
Okay, okay.
he was like, couldn't get Natalie, so I guess I'll go for Kendall Jones. Speaking of Bad Bunny and Sheena Shea, what did she say about Sheena?
What did Sheena say about Bad Bunny at the SNL thing that he thought she was a Kardashian or something?
Oh, that she kept saying that he was making eye contact with her and eye fucking her from across the room. And she was like, I must have reminded him of his ex.
It was a very delusional. So
I got to say, you know, just for everyone out there, just because someone's looking at you doesn't mean they're checking you out. Yeah.
I'm always observing people constantly. I am judging them.
I also need that reminder though, because I'm always like, oh my God.
Literally, I fucking
said he was. That bitch has kale in her tooth.
She said that he was eyeing her while she was out dancing. And her direct quote was, Bad Bunny was giving your girl the up and down.
Every time I turned around, his eyes were on me. Your girl.
When?
He would not stop staring. Is that the so like the Cowboys are America's team and Sheena Shea is your girl?
Your girl. Eyeing your girl up and down.
Up and down.
All right, should we get into some Miami? I didn't know Juliana did opera. Neither did I.
Did you guys? Did we know that? Was that a fun fact? Yeah, she did it last season.
She did a performance for Martina. I don't know what Mary's rapid recap is going to say, but before we jump into it, and Natalie clocked this, but
what a wild choice for Julia to put
her new adopted twins in a Valenciaga t-shirt.
For those of you who don't remember, not too long ago, Balenciaga Balenciaga was caught up in a very salacious scandal when they had young children in like SM bondage type of like photo shoot photo shoots.
So like just kind of like
celebrities are trying to make them like it again. And I just, I don't really know how you come back from that.
So I haven't forgiven them, but apparently Julia has.
If you missed this past episode of the Royal House Wives of Miami, here is your rapid recap. The finale is finally here.
Alexia, actually, we. She wasn't wrong.
She wasn't wrong.
It felt like there was more to the story. Marisol brings Christmas to hot weather of Miami.
Meanwhile, Alexia is simultaneously throwing a beauty bar happy hour. Which one are you going to?
Jill Zarin is in the crowd and Marisol is wearing a hat. Question mark.
Wait, is it a loofah? No, it's a tree. Adriana calls Julia a covert enemy.
Alexia's son is questioning Todd's love for Alexia.
Julia throws an event between the Florida Grand Opera and her children's foster care program. In case you were wondering, Santa is still fat in Miami.
Larsa doesn't want to be a Scrooge and is peaceful around Jodi. Adriana is late to her own concert and Stephanie is not having the J-Lo moment.
The only difference is the Miami J-Lo plays the piano and loves her dog. Julia is happy for Adriana, but Adriana calls her weird.
The mask is off.
Adriana storms off and calls Julia off for her nine engagements. And to dig further, Adriana calls Julia a user and cites her old apartment.
Julia claims she was being controlled behind closed doors.
She's done. To wrap it all up, Kiki releases a drink.
for the Haitian Health Foundation. Marisol claims she told Adriana to act like she said wretched tea.
Adriana calls Marisol old and wretched.
Dare we say, going to a funeral. Marisol says Adriana is going to an ice skating rink.
No, finding out that Marisol was the one who told Adriana to say wretched and not ratchet and be and blame it on her accent was crazy. Crazy.
Right.
But then in the confessional, she made it seem like she was like, oh, go with this. But then it seems like there's a dispute now.
I'm like, are we going to see something at the reunion?
Like, I need to see this. I need to see the clip.
Does anyone else just not give a fuck like me? It just feels like they're really trying to milk this storyline.
Well, I think Adriana is maybe trying to milk it because then she's like, oh, you called me racist. Kiki, talk to my friend.
That was wild. Carl.
Hey, Carol.
That was crazy. I'm going to call it a backlog.
Here's my black friend. Yeah, like fight my racist battle for me.
It was like, this is weird. Kiki's like, no one ever even said that, by the way.
Right. And it's like, well, now I think you might be.
Right. Yeah.
After you pulled that stunt. Yeah.
I don't know. The thing is, like, I love some Adriana DeMora, but it was really, it was kind of getting hard to defend her at the end of this.
And I really need to know, like, who's lying? Because I also love Marisol, but I'm like, who's telling the truth in this? I can't tell. I don't think there's a lie.
I think Marisol did help Adriana where she thought that they were on
or whatever. And then the second that, like, shit started to hit the fan, Marisol couldn't wait to pull it out of her.
I was making offensive Adriana. I don't think she had any clue what either of those words meant.
And I certainly don't think that she realized what maybe like the stereotypes or implications might mean behind one of those words.
So she clearly does now because she was quickly like, and Marisol, you're old and miserable, and you're wretched.
The turnaround and Alexia, of all people, being like, stop, don't do this to yourself, Adriana. And Alexia doesn't like her just as much as Marisol.
Did anyone else find it weird that Adriana wanted complete silence before she walked out on stage? Like, didn't she, doesn't she want a hype train? I didn't quite understand this. Yeah.
I think she was trying to have her diva moment of, like, I'm trying to get into the zone and like meditate. Like, she's Mariah Carey.
And it's like, girl, get on stage with that.
You look like you dressed for a skating rink was wild.
Yeah, that was awesome. You know, it's funny because I was like, you know what? I see it.
Yeah. Yeah.
Nancy Kerrigan, the house down boots.
But also, Bravo did her zero favors with the audio of her singing.
Yeah, they didn't like pull like a direct link. It was basically like someone with their iPhone filming the concert in the back room.
So it's hard to really even tell if she sounded good or not because Bravo really did her dirty.
And I will say that going back to what you said, Nick, about how it's not the biggest of deals, I'm like, I feel like we just kind of glossed over like Julia throwing water on somebody who's literally healing from cancer.
And it's just like, but Adriana mispronouncing a word or whether her intention, whatever it was. I'm like, that's that's the biggest deal that you guys saw that was wrong with this season.
Yeah. Yeah.
Because it's like the valley. It's like, get again, or like Jason and everyone focusing on Danny versus Jax, where I'm just like, wait, I feel like there's bigger issues here than Adriana's accent.
Yeah. And then also, not for nothing, Adriana did sound better live than Julia.
Just gonna say. Do you think so? Actually, I kind of disagree.
I disagree too.
I feel like Julia set herself up for failure by it was her with a professional opera singer. So I, you could hear every single little like.
How long has Julia been an opera singer for a long time?
No, a year. She got into it a year ago.
Yeah, like practicing. Well, first of all, before I talk my shit, she was actually pretty good.
But I, I, babe, please do not. If you're going to find a hobby,
don't want to be an opera
like don't have it be something so, I don't know, elegant, like it's like unintelligible.
You have to perform in public and
be taken seriously in a way. Like our dear friend, Charlene Joint, is an opera singer.
She's been doing it her whole life. She's quite stunning and lovely at it.
And I just feel like there's certain things you don't just like decide, pick up, you know, and then demand people to listen to you. And again, it's not like knitting bubble blankets.
Right?
Like, yeah, it's not like crochet, you know, or, you know, painting.
It's a weird, it's a weird hobby to jump into. It is.
But she was, I mean, she was pretty good. I mean, I don't know.
I'm just anti-Julia, to be honest.
So all I know is that I want to not leave this earth, not going to one of Marisol's parties or events. It did.
It looked so fun. So real.
So lush. They're like, Coco change into your pajamas.
Yeah.
And what were those pajamas? Nice. Neat.
Yeah. What brand?
We need, we need. Can we get a PR package? Because literally.
Not Lisa trying to like convince her eight-year-old son to get a manicure. He's like, no.
She's like, yes.
Like, why would we give this kid get his name?
They kept that in. He's so his father's son.
Like, he was just like so uninterested with her and was just like, yeah, no.
and I was like it's giving money Yeah Do you think she wanted to do it to like spend quality time with the boy?
Well, he was already with her at the nail salon So it's like they were already together and it was like she just wanted to give him something to do I'm sure than just like sitting there.
I'm sure he had an iPad. Also, what a bummer though for like Alexia to be throwing that event at this the same day.
Although I would have said yes to it. I
demanded that I got my nails painted when my mom would paint my scissors nails. Oh, really?
Do you still get a manicure now and then? No, I should. as a
i've had a pedicure a couple pedicures uh my toenails needed a clipping over the weekend and so i used my fingers what do you mean just kind of ripped it off what do you mean
you want to know it's grosser than that if you say you put it in his mouth i'm gonna walk out sierra nick if you have some
toenails not my toenails yet i will use a fingernail as a toothpick for sure 100
isn't that insane guys i don't use i mean i do bite my nails,
but I don't use them as toothpicks. You wouldn't then take that nail and stick it in between your teeth and like get out a piece of steak? You would never know I bite my nails.
My nails look.
He does do them very evenly. Sierra, are you okay? I am unwell.
I am unwell, and I am not okay. I'm crying and gagging.
So, wait, are you just going to like let that piece of food sit in there if you don't have a toothpick? Does your hair loss?
Your hair.
What is going on in the biofuel?
I've definitely used my hair before. Thank you.
That is crazier than a fingernail.
No, it is not. Postmates on your phone.
I know that you have access to floss somehow, some way.
No, listen, I floss my teeth every single night, but this is like in an emergency in the car or out somewhere. No, no, no.
You don't floss your teeth
at once. No, I don't floss.
I'm speaking for myself currently.
Apologies to all the dentists. I was going to say, your gum health is important.
Yeah. Although,
my dentist, by the way, Dr. King, shout out to Dr.
King from Auburn, Alabama. I did get a text message from him.
Saying you're due. No, wishing me a happy birthday.
Oh, that's cool.
He said, happy birthday. Your teeth so good.
My dentist randomly is in Auburn, Alabama. Do you go out there to see your dentist?
Listen,
I feel like I take pretty good care of myself.
I look good for my age, as Mary has pointed out.
Shout out, Mary. Shout out, Mary.
But yeah,
I'm not awesome at going to the dentist. And I hadn't gone in maybe
a decade.
And then we were, I was visiting Auburn, Alabama a couple years ago for, and, you know, not much to do for me out there. And I was like, well, this would be a good time to go to a dentist.
He went to my childhood dentist. I actually loved that.
He got me right in. And then we went out the next year.
So I was like, I'll go back to Dr. King.
So anytime I'm in Auburn, Alabama, I I hit up Dr. King.
Yeah. Wow.
There's so many shout-outs in this episode. Yeah.
A lot of shout-outs in this episode. Yeah.
For sure.
We just have so much love for so many things and people.
People who do good work, we appreciate them. It's a really strong community you have.
Shout out, Ben, for helping us build this studio.
Okay, what's going on in OC? What's going on in Orange County if you missed this? Gretchen's a liar.
Gretchen has a horrible fashion.
This episode of OC was the worst fashion I've ever seen. First of all, Gretchen's ITM look has always been bad, but the Laura Croft was exceptionally bad.
My favorite was Heather Dubrow walking in saying, G.I. Jane.
She goes, no, I'm Laura Croft. It really is.
We have Laura Croft at home. It was.
Guys,
it was the studded belt. I did this same look for Halloween four years ago.
It's like you find a jumpsuit. You get the little studded belt and you put some like,
you know, things
hooked on it. Do a great.
She should do an ad for that bra, though. Yeah, the body was tea, y'all.
The body was tea. I couldn't look away.
I fell for it. Sadly, her personality is like.
Well, if you have no idea what we're talking about and you missed the last episode of the Royal Housewives of Orange County, here is your rapid recap. First, we start off with Flashback Rewind moment.
And in the name of Tamara Judge, what do you know about me, bitch? Jen is overthinking about her September wedding, but Ryan wants her to stop waffling, aka beach wedding.
Gretchen and Slade discuss Tamra's singing voice, or do I say drowning rat. Slade apologizes for bringing up Tamra allegedly cheating.
Gretchen was just trying to be campy and funny.
Jen's daughter wants a boyfriend in high school. Um, who didn't? Then we get a self-defense class.
Gretchen shows up as Amazon Laura Croft and okay body.
Meanwhile, the rest of the group are pranked by carjacking. Emily blows the whistle and tells Tamra about Slade's accusations and boom, Tamra appears stunned and would love to hear the recording.
Gretchen shoots a fireball and Tamra has had it. Of course, Slade said something stupid and suddenly Heather and Emily catch the stray.
Gretchen alleges she kept her mouth shut and apparently it'll get ugly for her. So the real question is, who's trying to run whose life here? Also, I'm sorry, whose vibrator was up? Whose vagina?
Can I just,
I just have to say that I do think that there is an art to Bravo and like how they do these seasons because last season, obviously, couldn't stand Tamra.
And then the beginning of this season with Katie, I'm still Team Katie no matter what.
But bringing Gretchen and Slade in somehow humanizes Tamra to the point to where I'm like, fuck Gretchen and Slade, Team Tamara. This is dirty.
This is gross.
And like, Slade, you're the stand-up where he body shamed Tamara. Oh my God.
That was crazy. Where are you? Theo Vaughn doing his Netflix special? Oh, no.
He called Vicki Miss Piggy, and she had that nickname like stick with her for years as like a grown-ass woman and end up getting work done.
Can you imagine being a middle-aged man getting into comedy and your whole bit is just body shaming women in your community? Literally.
Could you imagine being a middle-aged man with a daughter and you're still doing this type of shit to ruin another grown-ass woman's life?
Could you imagine being a middle-aged man and deciding now's the time for me to get into comedy?
Can you imagine being a middle-aged man? Actually, yeah.
Nick's like, I've had the thought. Yeah.
I was riding the pen.
Yeah, but you're not like going and doing stand-up and shaming women's bodies. You know what I mean? The material might look different.
Also watching him do that scene with Gretchen, it just is such a stark difference than watching Eddie or I'm not going to say Ryan because Ryan is kind of a performer too, but who else? Shane.
Yeah, it's just like
Matt, Katie's husband. It's like the difference with how Slade like turns it on for the camera is so gross.
Also, you know, she's lying because like, you know,
when you have accusations and then you, and you're vague about it, it's like the whole like, everyone says this about you. Well, what what do they say?
Well, I'm just not going to say, you know, like, you know, it's just,
yeah, they were saying things and whatever. They weren't good.
They weren't good. So you should be worried.
Such a manipulative, gross thing. And like, yeah.
And then, and you know, because like Tamara's like, well, then fucking just say it, you know, because there's nothing there. And it's so fucked.
I really hate it when people do that.
It's, it's bully behavior. I mean, and also Gretchen being like, I've been told so many things about you and I've kept my mouth shut for all these years.
Do you want me to start saying them?
It's like. Yeah.
And then the producer is like, what did she say? I'm not going to say next question.
Like you would protect Tamra. Like nothing about Gretchen is, is shows me that she would want to protect Tamra.
There's no incentive.
I'm watching throughout, like I'm watching all the old seasons of Orange County. I'm in like season 11 now.
And I'm like, this is pretty standard between Slade and Gretchen, that whole like sit down where she's just like, oh, God, you really pissed me off when you said that.
They've had this conversation so many times. That's Gretchen's way of taking zero accountability for what her husband said and claiming that, like, oh, I had no idea he was going
her life partner. Um, of like, I had no idea what he was going to say.
And she says it at the table: if Slade said something stupid, then like that's on him. And it's like, no, you're a partnership.
You knew what he was going to say, but you've rehearsed your way of being like, oh, my hands are clean. I wasn't the one who said it.
Slade and Gretchen kind of remind me of, you know, in the Emperor's New Groove,
Gizma.
And then what's the Gronk? Gronk dude? Yeah. He's her Gronk.
Yes. And it's like,
she's behind it.
She's like, pull the lever, Gronk. Pull the lever, Gronk.
Yeah. But Slade's just equally as evil.
Like, I feel like they both try to act like they're like, oh, she ruined our lives.
It's been 15 years. If you can't move on from a cup from some shit.
15 years ago, like, why are we here?
Also, like, carjacking prank, not a good prank. No, it it was stupid.
Risky. If I had been in that car, he would have been done for.
Yeah. Yeah.
It's like, what, like, I feel like someone,
I don't know, is now going to like. I'm actually shocked.
None of these people had like pepper spray or like literally like not one ounce of. Why were your windows down? They all have their hair down.
Yeah, all their windows down. It's like, first of all, what are you doing? Roll your window up.
It is crazy. They're all like, oh, he's digging in the trash.
Meanwhile, their window is still down.
There's a couple people who travel a lot and drive in different different parts of our country. Road rage really hits different depending on where you are.
Yes, absolutely. You know, if you accidentally cut someone off in, let's say, Wisconsin, it's just a
little
like, please don't do that. Excuse me.
Sorry. Sorry.
In LA, it's like they might get shot. Now you gotta threaten once.
It was so scary, y'all. We were leaving the studio, going home, and this like old suburban, like, it's it's going from two lanes into one after a red light.
Okay.
So here I am in the right lane that I'm supposed to be in. And this car is-and I'm riding a shotgun like a man.
And this car comes flying through the yellow light, probably was red by then and like gets in front of me, whatever. Like, so I'm like, that was so dangerous.
He's going so fast.
So I'm kind of just like.
Looking at him.
One thing about me is I am such an observer. And if I am at the park and there's something that goes wrong and and the officer is like, Did you see the? I'm like, yeah, this is their license plate.
Like I am that much of an observer. So I'm like looking at his license plate.
I'm looking at like what I can remember about this person if I were to need to give his description. Wow.
And we get to the next red light and I guess he was looking at me from his side mirror. So we were like kind of making eye contact and he was a scary individual.
Okay.
We get to the next red light and he pulls to the side, which again is not the road and he stops.
So I have to pull up beside him and his window's down and he literally gives me like the finger hand gun and says watch yourself and i was like oh my god
and he basically like he said uh he basically said something i'm gonna let you live today and i honestly believed him it was like this person's killed someone before 100
yeah yeah oh can i tell you guys my favorite road rage story from growing up in florida Yeah, Florida. Right.
So, okay. So, as we've discussed before, my dad's a pastor.
Praise Jesus. Praise Jesus.
One time we were driving home from church, me and my dad in the car, and we were in Sarasota at the time. There's this really big bridge called Ringling Bridge.
And we're driving across the bridge.
And my dad accidentally cuts off this motorcycle that he didn't see. And the guy on the motorcycle, like, swerved and came back up and like got up.
My dad had his window down and like.
got really like up in my dad's face and like started screaming at him but then my dad was still wearing his collar
and his like pastor collar
and then the guy like clocked the collar and then was like
repent he thought he was talking to god he thought he was yelling at god and he was like oh fuck and then just kind of like eased back eased back and i was like wait should i go to seminary were you like my dad so cool
i was like that's kind of really cool yeah um
anyway yeah that's one of the perks of being a pastor if you wear your collar you can get away with a lot of shit
um speaking of jesus and speaking of cool we have Lacey Shaber is up next to talk about some of her projects she's got the haul out the Halloween premiering Saturday October 11th on Hallmark also the celebration with Lacey Chabert season two now streaming on Hallmark plus And she also has another Christmas movie coming out called She's Making a List, which premieres December 6th.
She is with us next to talk about all that plus her time as Gretchen Wiener's as one of the mean girls uh and just like you know we all love a hallmark movie and she is the queen of hallmark movies
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Lacey, welcome to the show. Thanks so much for having me.
This is fun. We're so excited.
So excited. I mean, do
people generally just get really excited anytime they meet you? You know, just being the icon that you are? People are very, I love meeting people. People are always actually like super friendly.
And whether they're, you know, saying they enjoy the movies on Hallmark Channel or that's so fetch, like someone, there's always icons.
it's it's I love meeting people. You hope people are going to like the work that you're a part of.
And so it means the world to meet to meet someone who does.
How many times do you think have you said that's so fetched since filming Mean Girls?
If I could tell you the amount of times I've said it in making videos for people's daughters and nieces and granddaughters,
it's a lot.
It's a lot. Or they'll be like, can you write that so fetch? I'm like, absolutely.
Of course. I loved, I mean, I loved Mean Girls.
It was such an incredibly fun movie to be a part of. I can't believe it was 20 years ago.
And it was just such a
lovely thing to do. I saw that in theaters.
Did you really? Multiple times. You have a daughter, right? I do.
My little Julia just turned nine years old.
And she's just the love of my life. And yeah, she's in third grade.
And she, you know, children are so humbling and she keeps it so real. When I want a real opinion, she will absolutely tell you.
And it's just so fun to watch her grow and to see the world through her eyes. It's the best.
Is she a fan of your work? Yeah. She's also my real critic.
What is she? What's her recent reveal? I mean, she'll be like, don't wear your hair like that again.
Like, she'll, yeah.
She's like, I, I don't like that. Or I love it.
You wore colors. Like, you always wear black in real life, mom.
I'm like, oh, you're in your black leggings. And you're, I'm like, it's my uniform.
She's like, you're always in sweatpants at home.
Exactly.
Relax. She's like, you're always.
She literally says that you're always wearing sweatpants and leggings. Our daughter's 19 months and she's
on the verge of talking.
She's at the age where she's like talking to herself and like being like, meow, meow, meow, me me me meow, me, me, me, me, meow, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me.
Then she's learning like, uh, like a new word every day. Um, it's, it's been pretty funny.
It's just magic. She's giving sass and talking back.
I feel like she will be giving us notes as well.
It's the best. If I can offer one piece of unsolicited advice, please write stuff down, especially the cute stuff that she says.
That's like, cause you don't, you think I'll never forget this, but then something else happens and you do. And my husband and I are always reminiscing.
I'm like, remember when she used to say that word wrong? Or remember when she used to do that? I mean, I remember when she was really little, probably about that age.
And she would like go with her hands up and look up at me and go, hold you. And she meant hold me.
Hold you. And I was like, yes, please don't ever say it right.
I know.
I've been trying to get, I know, I've been trying to get River to say that. Now, I started with just being like, do you want up?
and so she would say up please up please and now i'm like do you want me to hold you because i want her to do the hold you too it's so sweet
but i did like i i the first um year of her life i did like a full baby book and took all these polaroids and wrote everything down and then i feel like after the year you just like have a toddler and you're like oh my god i have no time to scrapbook and like write so but it's so true i don't want to forget the the cute stuff so i do need to be better at it's the best and you know what's so cool too like my daughter has because of our phones, she has a picture or a video from almost every single day of her life.
And it's such a different way, I think, that kids are growing up these days where like I have like seven photos from my childhood and they've all been in Hallmark movies.
They're always asking for family photos. I have so few photos and almost no videos.
And so I love that she has this whole documentation of her life.
And it's like such a cool thing, I think, for her to look back at. And she'll sometimes come to me and be like, can we look at the baby?
can we see me as a baby and oh it's really fun to like obviously for me to get to relive that but then to see her look at herself like that it's kind of sweet that's so sweet i bet it also brings that memories for you because she's probably like what were we doing here and why were what you know like asking questions yes and that that's been one of my favorite parts honestly of being a mom it's i've gotten to relive some of my best childhood memories and some of my favorite moments with her in the traditions that we carry on and like you know i remember being
making this certain recipe every Christmas with my great-grandma and my grandmother. And, and now I get to do that with her.
And just the full circle part of that, like, just brings me such joy.
And I mean, it all ties into why I enjoyed making these movies so much, truly. Yeah.
The reason why we're not with you in person is we're up at the lake house, which we just got done
remaking. And it was the same property my grandfather built.
And so now that River's here, it's like,
it was like a core memory for me in my childhood. So now that River's here, I get to see like she's loving it up here.
And so, yeah, just like you said, just to relive it back is
something I'm really looking forward to with River. That is so special.
Oh, I wish you guys all the best. That's awesome.
Well, speaking of special, and you obviously have made such an amazing career doing, you mentioned Hallmark movies, all these like family-friendly movies.
You have three projects that you coming up over the next few months.
You're booked and busy. Like, do you have favorites? Like, I mean, even like, obviously, you've done over 40 Hallmark movies, I think, something like that.
Do you have favorites that you've done?
And then of the projects you're doing right now, tell us a little bit about each one. It's like impossible to pick a favorite because they really are special for different reasons.
I know that sounds so cliche, but it's not just the movie that's special to me. It's like the experience of it.
I remember what I was going through in my life when that one filmed or the crew or, you know, I met like someone who became a best friend.
Like, it's really the life stuff that happens behind the scenes that means so much. But I'm so excited about what I have going on right now.
Season one and two of Celebrations is streaming on Hallmark Plus, and it's a show that is so close to my heart.
And like it was, it was a passion project with everyone involved where we celebrate heroes who are just incredible people doing amazing things in their community, people who are making a real difference in the lives of so many people.
And to be able to give them this, we take three days to plan a surprise party with LA party stylists, Lisa and Marissa, incredible planners. And it's not just about the party, though.
It's about celebrating their work and, you know, hearing firsthand accounts from people that they really have affected their lives.
And I think now more than ever, we just need to highlight all of the good. And
that is just a show I'm so proud of. So if you want to just feel good and you also love a little DIY and party and celebration, that will be the show for you.
And then October 11th on Hallmark channel.
I have Haul Out the Halloween premiering, which is the third installment in the haulout series about these neighbors who are crazy about Christmas, but now they've turned the tables and it's all about Halloween.
And my dearest friend in real life, Kimberly J. Brown and her husband,
Halloween Town. Halloween Town.
They join us for this one. So it was so much fun to reunite with that cast and of course with my best friend.
And it's also just, it's, it's so fun to celebrate.
I mean, all of the Hallmark movies I do,
it's all about community and bringing people together. And I think that they do that in people's living rooms when people watch.
And so I'm thankful for the chance.
When do you typically film these movies? Like, I know it's coming out in October. So did you get to like film this back in like February and have Halloween and like the beginning of the year? Yes.
It is year-round holiday celebration for me. That's why you're so lucky.
Yeah, we actually filmed this one in Salt Lake City in May.
So it was really fun.
But typically we're filming the Christmas ones in the summer, which is great because I get two Christmases every year, pretty much, but also also 100 degrees and you're wearing a coat and a scarf and a parka.
And like, I think I've trained my face to actually not sweat anymore. Yeah.
Teach me.
Literally. How did you even fall into being like the Hallmark queen that you are?
I mean, obviously you had, you know, your iconic movies with mean girls, but like, is this something that you aspired to? Did it organically happen?
Like, you know, like you've really made this amazing career from it. Oh my gosh.
Thank you so much.
I don't know how this all happened, truthfully. I mean, this business, I've been doing this for 35 years and you never know what tomorrow holds.
And I, I, Hallmark offered me a movie called Elevator Girl, and it was like 15 years ago now, I think. And I filmed it and it was a blast and it was a fun movie.
And I never knew if they'd call again.
And here we are. I just finished my.
44th movie actually for them a couple of days ago. And I'm so deeply grateful
for the opportunity to tell stories that I think people can see themselves in. You know, it's always a goal of mine to tell a story and portray a character that's like, oh, I've been there.
I relate to that. And then at the end of the day,
you know, it's, you're going to be left with an uplifting ending. Feel good.
You know, feel good.
And just, I love, I love being a representative for Hallmark because it's, it's, it's what highlights the good in the world, all the way back to the card company.
You know, it's, it's about celebrating milestones and being a part of people's celebrations. And so I just, I love it.
And I do love Christmas.
Like, I'm, I know it's controversial, but I'm going to put up my Christmas tree soon. I just, no, I don't know.
Oh, yeah. No, November 1st.
We're November 1st.
You're my people.
Yes.
Yeah.
So we don't, we do fall and Halloween the exact same time, and that's September 1st through October 31st.
And then November 1st is Christmas on.
I love that.
But do you go all out at home? Do you have like several Christmas trees in your house? I do. I have to hide them from my husband because he's like enough with the Christmas decoration.
I may have ordered another one last week.
I'm hoping to intercept the box before he sees it.
I, yeah,
I just love it. The more, the better.
More is more.
You're also kind of the queen of Christmas. So I think you want to be.
There's an expectation. Yeah.
He can't stifle you. Yeah.
I think, yeah. I mean, he's like, do you? But poor thing, he has to help me all up.
But I just love it. I like a different theme.
I've never got it up tree.
I like, like, I do, I let Julia do her room however she wants. And then
I'm sorry to keep plugging things, but it just goes hand in hand with what you're saying. I have a line coming out with Hallmark that'll be at the Hallmark Gold Crown stores.
And it's Christmas decorations. It's a beautiful ornament set, things you can use for your holiday celebration, a tray, a tea towel, and mugs, and card line, and wrapping it.
Lacey, I would absolutely buy your Christmas decorations. Will you really? Yes.
Oh, my God.
It's like Jesus, Santa, and Lacey. You know, like
people who know.
And that is the correct order.
Yes.
Yeah, I don't
know disrespect to God and Santa. Yes.
So sweet. Thank you.
I'm going to make sure to send you some. I hope you enjoy it.
Please. Please.
Yes.
Apparently we have several trees coming. We do.
You can never have enough decorations. So please.
Lacey, before we let you go, we have a fun game we want to play with you that Mary put together. Mary, would you like to explain to Lacey how we play this game in the spirit of Hallmark?
holiday films. I would love to.
So another thing we talk about on this show a lot is housewives.
And I wanted to play a game with you called Hallmark or Housewives, in which we are going to read you some very dramatic plot lines, and you are going to have to guess and tell us whether you think they're from a Hallmark storyline or a real housewives storyline.
I mean, the two really do cross over, it seems. So, here we go.
It does.
So, the first one is: A last-minute work trip turns into something more when unexpected travel delays force two people together. Hallmark.
Yes, it is. Do you know the movie?
A Christmas detour? Jingle Bell Bride.
Okay, never mind. Sorry.
It's your detour. Okay.
No, no, no. She got it.
She got it right.
A family event explodes after someone shows up where they don't belong. I'm gonna go with housewives for that one.
It's Hallmark. Really? What movie was that? A very merry mix-up.
Someone ends up at the wrong family's house. Oh.
I'm gonna have to watch that.
That seemed like a trick trick question, Mary. That was giving housewives.
I don't know. Maybe I like wrote this game, so it'd be a little hard.
A sudden health crisis binds strangers together in surprising ways. I'm going to go with, oh, I mean, it could be either, but I'm going to go with Housewives.
Walmart. Really? What movie was that?
A Stranger's Heart. A strange.
Oh, my goodness. I got to watch.
I got to watch.
Heart Transplants. Connection.
I thought I'd seen them all.
A high-profile relationship collapses just as a new one takes shape in plain sight.
A housewife?
Yeah. Okay.
Uh-huh.
Yeah. It was real.
I was at Beverly Hills, Camille's dinner party from hell. Let's see.
An elegant dinner unravels when someone drops a bombshell about a partner.
I feel like you're trying to trick me again.
I don't know if I trust you. I'm going to go with housewives.
It is housewives. Okay.
Yeah. Okay.
All right. That would have been...
Yeah, that would have been crazy. on Homer.
Friendships implode after allegations of dishonesty about a serious illness. Oh,
housewives? Yes. Okay.
Ooh, she's on a roll.
An important project hinges on securing rare flowers, but emotions complicate the mission. Homer? Yes.
Jingle Bell bread. Yeah.
A luxury getaway devolves into chaos after a heated argument erupts. Housewives? Yes.
For a housewives in New Jersey. Okay.
During a group trip abroad, a shocking prediction about a relationship changes everything. Hallmark.
No, it's housewives. Could be Hallmark.
Let's picture it.
That was pretty good. That was pretty good.
Thank you. Thank you so much.
I feel like you know a lot about housewives. Yeah,
I definitely have seen a few episodes. Yeah.
Or she's like, Those aren't very uplifting. I'm going to say housewives.
I'm thinking of the positive spin. Yeah.
Yeah. You seem like these could have been deeply evil people.
I don't think they belonged. They're lying about a serious illness.
I'm going to go with housewives.
But maybe the serious illness was that they were heartbroken. Never mind.
I'm not spinning.
It was just something about Santa. Well, Lacey, this has been so much fun.
Please come back soon.
I know this is only your second podcast, but hopefully you had a great time and it was super easy and super fun.
Again, just remind my audience, all the projects you got coming up and where they can stream and watch them all. You can stream celebrations season one and two on Hallmark Plus.
Haul Out the Halloween will be on Hallmark channel October 11th. And then She's Making a List is the Christmas movie I did this year, and that will be on Hallmark channel December 6th.
And then my line with Hallmark Christmas galore decorations, celebratory items.
All of that will be available very soon in Hallmark Gold Crown stores. Amazing.
Yeah. Well, please send us some of those Christmas decorations.
Going to.
We'll definitely share and put them up over our trees i'm absolutely going to and thank you so much for having me and chatting it was super fun to talk to you guys so much fun for us thanks so much lazy of course take care bye bye
this is really fun
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