E1008 - Lacey Chabert, Teresa Giudice Talks Special Forces, RHOM Finale, RHOC and Selena Gomez’s Wedding

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What's going on, everybody?

Welcome back to another

groundbreaking episode of the Valfiles Reality Recap Edition.

I am your host, Nick.

We're joining you live.

Well, not really.

Well, when you're listening to this, we won't be live.

Currently, in this moment, we're live from the Lake House.

The new studio at the Lake House, I would say, is 95% done.

Also, if you are tuning in, watching with us on YouTube, you might notice that we also are in a new studio in L.A.

The household is joining us from the new upgraded studio in LA.

It's bigger.

It's better.

It's beautiful.

Yeah, we're doing big, bad, beautiful things here.

Big, bad, bad, NV Media.

Susie is joining the household today.

We got Mary.

We got Sierra.

It's a jam-packed episode.

A lot of exciting things.

Would you say we're, what, we're like 80, 90% done at the LA studio?

Those chairs are white.

We're going to.

They're beautiful.

It's beautiful here, guys.

Gorgeous.

It's gorgeous.

I can't wait for you to see.

I'm in love.

The new carpet smell, the little decal.

It's so bougie.

I feel well taken care of.

Yeah, it's very nice.

I vlogged coming in.

I was so excited.

Did you?

yeah i was vlogging it we're part of susie's vlog i'll tag you guys

no one's quitting anytime soon yay everyone's happy

the household rose up they're like we want

yeah the household started protesting yeah

yeah yeah us in our two little rooms we were a little stressed out we're growing you know it used to be um a small operation now we're well still small but we're a lot better no don't be humble this is crazy i'm not even going to lie.

This is crazy.

This looks like Sterling Cooper Draper Price.

I don't know who that is, but Slay, Sterling Cooper Draper.

Slay.

Imagine what our guests are going to say when they come in now, because before they'd come in, they're like, oh, my God, you're like a real show.

I think sometimes when people say podcasts, I think they expect to show up in my garage.

I don't have a garage in LA, but, you know, either way, we're excited.

Join us in the comments, I guess, if.

If you like what you see.

I mean,

it's a very similar aesthetic to what we used to have, but better.

But but better, and we got a cozy little dynamic.

My wife and I are now facing each other, making great eye contact, falling in love.

At any moment during the episode, we may just like you may we just might break away and start just

wow,

yeah, maybe

we will do that.

I don't know, Nick is also now, everyone.

Whoa, I don't know what

I had a birthday.

I don't know why you have to.

Okay, don't Adriana DeMora user age times two minus five.

Yeah.

32 last year.

25 plus 45

minus five.

Isn't that what Kiki said to Adriana?

She was like, you look amazing for your age.

No, that was crazy.

It was a birthday.

It was an amazing birthday.

Let's all talk about the amazing gifts that Natalie and River got me.

I'm wearing them.

They're my new Tocova cowboy boots.

Not an ad, even though I've been telling Tocova they need to sponsor their boots on this show.

My wife is what got me into cowboy boots.

I am like, spoiler,

this may surprise many of you, but I am not a real cowboy.

And I'm a shocker.

Wait, really?

And I'm not like the most masculine guy out there.

And I never would have thought that I could love cowboy boots, but it was my wife who bought them for me.

And as a city slicker, I got to tell you, I really, first of all, incredibly comfortable, incredibly versatile.

They pair well with jeans, they pair well with dress pants.

This is turning into an odd.

Let's more talk about the birthday gift itself.

Really not, anyways.

You can even see the logo.

They didn't pay for this, so let's go.

They really did.

So, as you can see, Natalie Rivers' handprint.

Zoom in if you could, please.

I don't know if that's possible.

There's also a V on are you serious?

And then I put the year 25 because I wanted to always remember the size of her hand print was when it was then.

Wait, that's the cutest thing.

Anyways, it's an incredibly incredible gift.

We did Packer colors.

We really put some thought into it.

Yeah, that was very thoughtful, not as the handprint's amazing.

And I got

y'all wondering.

Natalie forced me to open the gift around friends.

Forced?

I was like, do you want to open your gift before your friends leave town?

And then they were like, oh my gosh, yes, yes, we want to see.

So I had to hold back the tears.

But I have to say, my original plan was a pair of Converse to paint because it's like canvas side, you know?

I was like, that'll be easy, whatever.

But they don't last.

But then I was looking around in the closet and there were every color.

I mean, he has every color of Converse.

I'm like, he doesn't need.

This is an amazing gift.

Another.

So me and Shug took River to the mall and

saw Takovas.

And I was like, oh, maybe I'll just get him a new pair of boots.

So then we walked in and I was like, can I paint on leather?

Like, can I just get.

like, can I do this on these boots?

And Shug was like, I think it'll like peel off.

And so I was asking the sales associate, like, do y'all know of any paint?

And they were like, we actually do that here.

Like our manager is a, like, was a tattoo artist.

So she's, she can paint anything on the boots.

Like we have the leather paint.

And they're like, we can brand, we can do whatever.

And I was like, love that she's talented.

That's amazing that she like can do anything I want.

But I was hoping my 19-month-old daughter could paint.

And she was like, um, probably.

Let me, let me go talk to her.

There's a lot of talking with the manager, pulling out all the paints.

It's like, keep out of children's eyes and reach.

And they were like, you need to just sign this waiver, please.

And we got it done.

And it was cute.

And we loved it.

It's an amazing gift.

Yeah.

It was a great birthday.

I mean, obviously, I got to spend it at the new lake house with my parents, with my family.

It was really, it was really great.

It honestly made me think of some of the other birthdays I have.

And just a little motivation out there for any of you all.

who maybe had a birthday recently.

I've had some birthdays where I was like, what's the point?

Honestly, I haven't, haven't

You know, there's been a couple of those where it's just like, I'm a total loser.

I mean, honestly, I think, I don't know if somewhere around my 38th, maybe 36th, 7th, 39th.

Mind you, this is after the bachelor run, Dancing with the Stars.

I'm in Hollywood.

I spent one of my birthdays

with people I don't even remember, didn't even know.

And at like 1:30 in the morning, I was at an IHOP.

Hell yeah.

Wasn't, didn't you also spend your 40th like in the house, like eating Chinese food

by yourself?

That was fine.

No, Ashley and Jared came over.

Ashley and Jared.

And I had just bought my first new house.

So that was a cool milestone.

I felt accomplished after that.

It was definitely better than being with strangers at an IHOP.

At an IHOP at one in the morning.

Not every birthday is meant to be, you know, a win, but this one was.

This one was pretty good.

Living out the dream.

at the lake house.

The lake house is great.

I don't know.

It's we obviously spent a lot of time moving in.

Very busy days.

I'm wearing the sweatshirt of the builders,

uh, Colms and uh Vercullen,

uh, Jeremy and Greg.

Shout out, Jeremy and Greg.

They crushed it.

If you are thinking about building a new home or remodeling, also not an ad.

I don't

know.

We spent so much money with these people, and they were like, and here's a free sweatshirt.

Like, let me talk about you on my podcast.

Yeah, yeah, no, so

they're both related to the guy who bought the house house from my grandfather.

Oh, wow.

And one of the builders, Jeremy, was telling me that

when he was a kid, used to come up here.

Like I came up here on the lake.

So we really kept it in the family, so to speak.

But they did amazing work.

They did all of this in like eight, seven months.

I think they're pretty booked up.

But you know, give them a call.

I think columns.com.

Good luck finding that, guys.

Yeah.

Just zoom into a sweatshirt.

Don't worry.

Can you zoom in?

I don't know if it's possible.

Anyways, it's it's really been incredible.

Have you been having fun?

Yeah, of course.

I think I have, you know, now that we have river, I definitely am just full of anxiety all the time.

So being like next to water, we have a lot of rock decor, outside landscaping rocks.

And I'm just like, it's a lot of big boulder rocks.

And I'm like, you know,

it was different when she was a potato.

But the house is gorgeous.

All the furniture that.

Natalie interior decorated the shit out of the house.

All the little fixtures, all the little designs.

Yeah, I did all that stuff by myself, but I did have Sarah Peticord help with the inside furniture because I was just after picking out every single hardware and paint color.

I was like, I don't think I could find a couch.

Interior designer of the stars, apparently.

Yeah, I think she did Miley Cyrus's house.

I don't know.

Also,

kind of cool.

I don't know if you all noticed, but Lana Del Rey posted her wedding photos.

It's her anniversary.

One-year anniversary.

Yeah.

If you guys take a peek at that wedding dress and take a peek at Nally's wedding photos.

Welcome party.

The welcome party photos.

They use the same designer.

And Lana wore a dress named after our daughter River, the River.

I love it.

What a fun little connection for us.

I don't know if Lana cares.

She'll probably be mad that we're talking.

No, I think Lana's sentimental.

She'll be like, love that that was named after your daughter.

That's so sweet.

Beautiful photos that she shared.

I mean, Sync just does amazing jobs with wedding dresses anyway.

So the fact that like Solana wore it is like just is meant to be, you know.

Did you guys see Selena Gomez?

Speaking of weddings, Selena Gomez got married.

Speaking of weddings, yeah, she posted her Instagram.

I have a question for everybody, though.

What?

Do you feel like, I feel like her photo drop on Instagram was like very trendy, like all blurry photos.

Kind of looks like 1950s-esque where you're like, oh my God, they didn't have a proper camera.

I'm sure there was like real photos documented, but like, how do we feel about the super blurry, trendy?

It's a five, right?

I kind of feel that's giving like Great Gatsby almost in a way.

It is, yeah.

It's beautiful.

You had to be there.

You had to be there.

Yeah.

That's actually, that's actually so true.

So real.

Here's like, oh, God, if only I was there, you know?

Right, exactly.

I wonder.

Do we know who planned her wedding?

Did she have like a celebrity wedding planner or was it like in the family?

Like a.

I think we should acknowledge it.

She married Benny Blanco.

I I think we

just

got it.

Yeah, her and Benny Blanco.

That's so real.

I really like the photos.

I think it's like, I think so much wedding photography looks very, very similar.

Yeah.

And it all, yeah, everything, like regardless of the vibe of your wedding, it all kind of ends up looking.

like high definition and i feel like there's so much more like emotion and you can really like feel a lot of the stuff there when like stuff is shot like on film or just like a little grainy of just kind of i don't know like a little imperfect because I think when wedding photos are like super, super perfect, it kind of takes away from the authenticity of it.

Yeah, yeah.

I also just like a vibey photo.

I also kind of like how this vet, how this wedding seems like it's a very like low-key event.

Like, did it happen?

Did you get an invitation?

Nobody knows, but it's like Taylor Swift, Ed Sheer.

Like, you know, it's going to be like the hugest like A-list guest list, but it looks like there's only two people there from what they posted.

Yeah.

No, I love that.

I love that she posted the Polaroids, like took a picture of the Polaroid photos on her carpet.

She's still one of us.

Truly.

At the end of the day.

Yeah.

I love Selena Gomez so much.

I'm so actually, I'm so happy that her and Taylor are like in their wifey era.

I feel like they've been through the trenches and it like gives, it gives people hope, you know?

They've really seen the worst of it and they're both seemingly being treated very well.

Not to push a lifestyle on you guys, but I got to say, just the married life, it crushes.

Sarah, I'm working on it.

I just got engaged and I'm sitting there.

I'm loving it.

No.

And Susie was just partying with her ex.

So I feel like you're kind of getting close to me.

Wait, what were you doing, Susie?

Yeah, partying with my ex.

Fun.

Which ex?

On my rooftop.

We've been to the house.

Adjustin?

Yeah.

Yeah, Justin.

I had like pretty much most of the LA Bachelor in Paradise cast at my house this weekend.

Oh.

We were all at like an event for.

Yeah, game night.

We were at like an ESPN event and then literally just like, we just kept going and we were drinking and we were like let's just do a game night and it just kind of spiraled into like everyone come over and we grilled on my roof give us the roster who was there okay

we had justin andrew alex laya rachel uh marshall glaze was there and then somebody jonathan uh jonathan of course espn came i'm pretty sure or disney i'm not sure which one maybe both not partying with the reps like like an employee or like talent no like an employee okay And I was like, yeah, it was like, we made it.

So did you all go to like the grocery store and get stuff to grill out?

Is your house just stocked or did you instacart?

My house was like low-key kind of stock because I had a summer I turned pretty finale party.

So I had like a lot of leftover drinks and like beverages, some snackies.

But Andrew volunteered to go get like grilling stuff.

And then I instacarted Kane's chicken as well

because it sounded great.

So who won the game night?

What games?

You guys, it actually turned like so weird.

We were doing like improv games.

And like, I actually at one point was like, oh my God, I really hope my neighbors like can't hear us right now because we were taking like let's yes and yes.

Yeah.

It really was like a yes and night.

I love fishbowl.

But we were like all drunk by the end and like maybe I had a THC drink and I was just like, I think it just got really weird.

Like, but nobody felt uncomfortable.

So I, I think.

So

thank God.

Just a lot of improv on my roof.

It got kind of, you know, kind of, kind of freaky.

Did you kiss anybody?

No.

No.

Boring.

No one.

I didn't see anybody kiss.

Alex and Andrew still in love?

Yes.

They're actually even cuter.

Oh my God.

They're more in love.

They're more in love.

Yeah.

I've got words for that therapist.

Yeah, me too.

Is Jonathan still single?

Yes.

Yeah.

As far as I know.

Okay, have you guys seen the Mr.

Fantasy?

Yes.

Yes.

Mr.

Fantasy.

Yeah.

That, that is my type.

Yeah.

Like, not.

KJ Appa or Mr.

Fantasy?

No, Mr.

Fantasy.

Like KJ Appa, like I can acknowledge a handsome man, but like Mr.

Fantasy is my type.

Can you, what, what is the difference?

I don't, I'm unfamiliar with Mr.

Fantasy.

Is this like a is this like a

Garth Brooks

alter ego?

Like what was it?

What was Garth Brooks' alter ego?

I don't know.

But it's kind of like,

you know, Mike Myers, Austin Powers, I would say more so than Garth Brooks.

Oh my God, yeah.

Is Mr.

Fantasy a character AJ played?

Well, no.

There are some theories that, like, maybe this is all like a marketing ploy, which would be really disappointing, but no, he's just like this alter ego.

I think it started like a month or so ago on TikTok, and he's just like taking on this full persona.

He has like prosthetic teeth and

is actually KJ Appa, or is it someone pretending to be KJ Appa?

No, it is him, but he's not even acknowledged it as himself.

So, like, everyone's just put it together, and it's a full new Instagram account.

And this is your type?

Like, we like, I didn't know, but

the prosthetic the teeth are crazy.

I think it's just the teeth.

So, you're saying that, like, if, if you, if it were the 70s and like you had met one of the Rolling Stones, you would have been down bad.

You would have been following.

I think so.

You would have been penny lane and almost famous running around.

So, yeah.

And I didn't even know it until I started seeing the videos.

And I was like, oh, this is my type.

So, what did you post?

Well, I posted me dancing to his song, and he commented and reposted it on his story.

And so, I feel like maybe that means something, right?

Yeah.

Are you dating Mr.

Fantasy?

I think you're Mr.

Fantasy's number one groupie.

I think so.

Oh, by the way, Mr.

Fantasy makes music.

Yes.

Yeah.

Yeah.

He created a song.

Yeah.

Okay.

It's very interesting.

It's really fun.

And he's blown up.

He's got like a million followers in like a month.

So

kind of a star.

Could you be AJ?

No, you need to make a Vic Nile account.

Oh my God, yes.

Vic Niall.

And boy,

a wig and sunglasses.

Well, people think the wig that that he's wearing as Mr.

Fantasy is the dark Betty wig from Riverdale.

If there are any Riverdale fans on that one.

But what does Vic Nile do?

He raps.

Oh, my God.

Vic Niall.

Vic Niall is like a hardcore, like West Coast.

Oh, I was thinking maybe you could really lean into the cowboy of it all, you know?

Like, you've got the new boots.

It could really be like, you could be a real West Coast versus the best.

Like the masculine version of me.

Yes.

I can see that.

Lumberjacking.

Yeah, you should do like...

lasso wing a whole lot.

What was that guy Norm McDonald did on Celebrity Jeopardy and he had the mustache and the big hat?

Burt Reynolds.

Burt Reynolds.

Well, we have an amazing episode lined up for you guys.

Lacey Shaber joins us later this episode.

You know her from Mean Girls and all of your favorite Hallmark holiday Christmas movies.

She has several projects coming up and she joins us later this episode to talk about them, also talk about her time on Mean Girls.

A lovely, lovely person, and a very just charming interview, just very nostalgic, very fun.

We also have a great week lined up for you.

Tomorrow's Going Deeper is with Amy Duggar King.

If you are familiar with the Duggar family, and all the craziness, some darkness that went on with that family.

Well, Amy is with us tomorrow to talk about that experience.

She gets into the nitty-gritty details.

She has a new book coming out talking about that experience.

It's an episode you will not want to miss.

Also, on Thursday's episode of Reality Recap, Rachel Lindsay joins the show to talk some real housewives of Salt Lake City.

We'll just catch up with Rachel.

It will be great to do that as well.

I think we also have some Dancing with the Stars coverage.

Love is Blind premieres this week.

So that is something we'll also get into on Thursday's episode of Reality Recap.

So a lot of fun ahead this week.

In case you haven't listened to already, we had Teresa Judice last week on a Going Deeper episode for the ages.

If you haven't gotten to know Teresa Judice and the real Teresa, this is an episode you do not want to miss.

She is also appearing on Special Forces that came out last Thursday with her daughter, Gia.

And because we didn't want to have any spoilers, we have a quick clip coming up shortly.

about Teresa talking about her Special Forces experience in episode one.

It's a jam-packed cast

filled with a lot of Bravo people.

You had Brittany Cartwright.

She was on it for a few minutes.

Went home.

Blinked.

You know, I respect someone who goes into a situation and goes, no, this isn't for me.

I was going to say, she made it further than I would have.

I was like, the second that they yelled at me or pushed my face into mud, I'd be like, yeah, I'm out of here.

I feel like they kind of did her dirty by showing the clip of her saying, oh, my ex told me you're not going to make it far.

I was like, y'all could have cut that because they could, but this is a TV show.

No, you're right.

You're right.

The empathy really hurt.

It's for the Bravo people to get us to watch to be like, oh, maybe she'll prove him wrong.

I hope she does.

Well,

outside of special forces, I watched it and she went home.

Yeah, but as I

and it really only took, was it Q being like, you gonna take it off?

She's like, absolutely.

She was like, yes, thank you for asking.

Oh, you want this?

Okay, sure.

Here you go.

I love that she kind of kept using an excuse to like make herself feel better where she was just like, I'm sorry, like, I just can't catch my breath or like my stomach hurts or whatever it is.

And she's like, just say you're going home.

Right.

I'm like, guys, I can't have a headache.

Also on it are Jesse James Decker and Eric Decker, a couple, husband and wife duo.

And they joined us for a going deeper episode two weeks ago.

They, you got to check that out.

They really, I love how they talk about their relationship and how they are a team, both obviously on Special Forces, but really in life.

A very charming interview.

Be sure to check that out if you haven't already.

Oh, Mark Estes joined us last week.

He's also on Special Forces.

You might know him as a Montana boy.

Also, people were coming for me saying that I lost the plot of who's iconic.

And I feel like iconic really only means like some

people are picking on me because I said Summer Ray, she's pretty like household name.

I don't know.

Like people were like, who?

Who?

Natalie says everyone's iconic.

I'm like, sorry, I'm a nice person and you are rude, clearly.

To some people, Summer Ray is iconic.

Yeah, like, I think you're totally valid in that.

And I think it's just maybe the wrong demographic picked that one up because that's on them.

Yeah, I was like, were you not trapped inside your house during 2020?

Yeah.

You were right on that one.

I know who she is.

And if Mary knows who she is, she's iconic.

What's your favorite part about her, Mary?

She, her personality, you know, of course.

I mean,

she had her ass.

Oh,

she, oh, she's in her ass.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Good ass.

Summer, Summer Ray.

Yeah.

Summer Ray.

You have a good ass.

I've been told.

Well, be sure to check out Special Forces, but here is Teresa talking a little bit about her Special Forces experience.

And if you want to catch the rest of her interview, again,

it's last week's going deeper.

But right now, here's a little Teresa Judice.

On the first episode, I thought, well, you are a saint because you offered to clean up everyone's poop.

No, I didn't offer.

That was one of my, that was, you get, everyone gets a job duty.

Yeah.

And oh, you had bathroom duty?

Yeah, that was my.

No, you said.

If anyone goes,

please tell me so I can clean it up.

Well, you're right.

You have to put

everyone gets a job.

But you took it like a champ, though.

No, but what I learned is like that was the best job I could have got because it was the first day.

And no one wants to go to the bathroom the first day.

Exactly.

Everyone's like, I'm just holding this shit.

Exactly.

Like, who wants to go on?

No, in a bucket, on plywood.

Yeah, no.

There was a bat.

The bathroom was made of water.

Have you ever watched a Western?

You know, the outhouse is made out of wood with like a hole in it.

That is, that is what you use for the restroom.

And there were 18 of us because Gia was number 18, I was number 17.

There was 18 of us in one shower.

No, yeah, one shower outside.

I took one shower the whole week.

You did?

Didn't have time.

We were, they were kicking our asses because you guys had 10 days.

We only had eight days.

And I think it has to do with when you guys are in the desert, it gets so hot.

They're like safety concerns.

They can't

do things.

But with us, it was like 30 degrees.

So we just went like 18 hours all day long.

And there was just, we didn't have time.

Wow.

You're amazing.

Good for you.

Well, obviously you had watched a couple.

So you kind of knew what to expect.

But were you shocked to hear just how aggressive the DSs are?

I mean, I know at my point, you're like, that's mean.

Yeah, no, I saw how mean they were.

I was just like, in my interview, I was like, they better not push me like they did Denise Richards, like in her chest, like off the boat.

Remember how hard they pushed her like so hard into the into the ocean?

Yeah.

I was like, if they do that to me, I'll just die.

I'll die just right there.

I'm like, if you, and I said to him in my interview, I'm like, if you want me to die, then do that.

I'm like, please.

I'm like, do you want a liability?

Yeah.

I'm like, please don't do that.

Because that would, like, first of all, I would be shocked.

Like, that was rough.

Like, just push.

And especially because I don't know how to swim and being thrown into the ocean like that.

You're not prepared.

You haven't had time to cover it.

And I have breast implants.

Like, you cannot do that to me.

With that first, what were you doing?

The come jumping off the helicopter and scaling?

Is that what it's called?

No.

Repelling.

Repelling.

Was that harder than what it looks?

Because it looks like it would be easy, but then obviously

it looks easy.

It looks like, oh, you just like pull the thing to the side and you just go down kind of slow.

Like it looks like kind of fun.

I mean, the thing is, like, it's really high up and you have to learn the technique.

I mean, i did hurt my hand because my hand got stuck so this right the top of my hand was black and blue and bruised really hard like i hit my pushups because my hand got stuck so it's like you know i thought i thought i was like i got this but then my hand got stuck I think, I mean, Nick, I remember him always saying this, like when we were watching back his season when it was airing, and it was like, oh, it happens so quick and they're yelling at you.

Yeah.

So it's like, and the helicopter's so loud i mean it's just a lot it's a huge and there's really no training yeah no exactly this is how you do it oh yeah and and exactly so they just throw like just to go and i'm like oh my gosh it's like exactly like you can't even take five minutes to like make sure you have it right and like because it was so fast like that's why my hand got stuck yeah and i was like watch this and he's like 200 yards away you know as the demo right so

so it was it was it was scary but i'm glad I did it.

I always wanted to jump out of a helicopter.

So now I can say I did it.

I'm curious how far Teresa will go.

Me too.

I think having someone with you that like can motivate you will make you go a little bit further.

She's one tough cookie.

She's one tough cookie.

I wouldn't, I wouldn't mess with her.

I also think her with her daughter, I feel like that can has to push you so far.

Even the way she was talking to her and she was like, I wanted to quit, but like I knew that you were there.

I'm like, oh my God, I wanted to cry.

No, having that moral support is honestly huge there.

Just like,

I, they asked me to send like a Nick a video, and I don't know when you, how far along you got that video.

At the very end.

Oh, perfect.

Okay.

Well, no, but it was really.

I was going to say that was a reason staying so long.

It helped me finish for sure.

It really did.

I will say my favorite Teresa moment was them calling her stupid or something.

And she just goes, that's not nice.

You're amazing.

So cute.

So cute.

I love that.

I feel like she handled herself really well because I was like, this is not the Teresa I'm used to on Jersey.

I was like, I was expecting her to push back and be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, what, what is this?

But she's outside of her comfort zone.

Yeah.

I wonder if she will give some pushback, though.

Like, are we going to see a little sass?

Oh, my God.

Or like, what did she win?

I don't know if they handle sass very well.

No, they definitely don't.

No.

I'm definitely already like falling for the edits, I will say.

I'm like, oh, my gosh.

Like.

Feeling annoyed at certain people.

You know what I mean?

We're episode one.

Like, who?

What's his name?

Jesse, Jesse?

Oh, Jesse Smollett?

Yeah.

Like, oh, yeah, he knows who I am.

Right.

He knows me.

He knows everything about me.

It's like, I think he just said, Eric, maybe he's a fan of your work.

I actually thought the guy responded kind of nicely.

Yeah, Cody.

Yeah.

I was like, oh, I didn't think he was.

Jesse Smollett, well, you know, he's

an interesting guy.

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Something I want to say.

Guys, you're going to have to just awkwardly listen while I speak to my wife right now.

Okay.

Like, I'm really proud of us.

I don't know if I say that enough to us, but like, we, we're so busy and we do a lot of stuff together.

And

I think sometimes like our life gets so hectic, but I love, I just, I just love how much we're a team.

And it's just, you know.

Like every day we get a little stressed out, you know, but like, I think my favorite thing about you is this you're just, you're always up for a challenge.

no I don't know if you feel this way but like it is so easy to like feel disconnected sometimes yeah like you know sometimes I think in relationships you just feel like you always assume like your partner like can read your mind sometimes you know and like sometimes like that you know they always say like distance like that quietness will create distance I don't know but I'm I'm just very appreciative that you uh we we're always mindful of that you know yeah anyways like I'm just

i'm glad i have a teammate and um yeah and um i'm just i am just proud of us because i just think we i don't know like i i'm i'm just the type of person who's always worried about like what's around the corner like i it's hard for me to enjoy things especially this weekend with the house being done and everything going great it's always like

what the fuck's gonna happen you know anyways it's this um you've done a good job of living in the moment though i'm doing my best yeah but thanks for helping me out

um i'm i'm just like yeah i mean Nally's just so good at that.

She's,

I just think, yeah,

other times it just, I know like we'll have a stressful life, but like Nally's usually up for it, you know, she's always up for like,

I really feel like I have, I have a partner in the best possible way.

Even though I throw in a couple complaints.

It's not bad.

You're not a nag,

which is so great.

It's really great.

And when you are naggy, I just, you know.

Ignore me.

Yeah.

Perfect.

But generally speaking, I mean, compared to like, there's, I don't know, I just feel like there's a lot of couple.

I mean, we've we've hung out with couples and also just like how we speak to each other in public is, I think, generally a pretty something I'm glad that we do a good job of.

We've hung out with other couples where it was like, I, if we ever talked that way to each other around people, and some people are just so comfortable doing it.

Should we get a queen size bed?

No,

um, that's really cool.

Can we talk about me?

Sure, Mayor.

Thanks.

Um,

so that was cute.

That was cute.

Yeah, Yeah.

No, very sweet.

I love that for you guys.

Oh,

yeah.

Mayor's like, I don't want that lifestyle.

Yeah.

That's your life.

Yeah, that's awesome.

I just found out something insane, right?

So, okay, I promise.

So this past weekend, my sister, Erin, is pregnant.

Shout out, Erin.

Older, younger.

Older.

She is 35.

Hey.

She's pregnant with her first daughter.

Congratulations.

Erin.

Yeah.

Shout out, Erin.

Yeah.

Anyway, so I'm home for this baby shower, right?

And I.

You weren't to Florida this weekend?

Yeah.

Pop off.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You approved my PTO.

Oh,

I don't like, I don't, I'm just.

I didn't send us any photos.

Yeah.

So like I'm home at this baby shower.

And yesterday before I left, I'm going through all of the things and helping my sister unpack all the gifts I got for her.

And I was like,

babies need a lot of shit.

And I didn't know that.

Mary babies Anyway, babies need so much shit.

I,

they're so small, but they need so much.

I, all they do is poop and pee and cry.

And then they grow out of shit.

So you have to buy more shit.

So fast.

Yeah.

Did you change a diaper?

Well, no, the baby's not there yet.

She's still pregnant.

Will you change a diaper?

I'd be down to.

The thing is, like, my siblings like kind of raised me because they were all like teenagers when I was a little baby.

So I kind of feel like I owe them

that.

Yeah, you do.

Because they, you know, changed my diapers.

But then at the same time, my sister said I'm not hot enough to have tattoos.

So but your sister said that too she did say well in so many words do you you don't have tattoos no and i was like guys i think i should get a tattoo and my sister was like i don't think you have to be hot to get a tattoo that's what i said and she was like i don't know if you're hot enough with that and that being said you are hot yeah exactly that being said you are hot thank you um aaron anyway i just had to get i was really nice to her this weekend so i really needed to say something mean so you had to get your hot bag

no that reminds me of when we were setting up the rivers like bathroom here.

And so me and Nick's mom, Mary, went to like Target and got the like non-slip, you know, for the bathtub little sticky suction thing and got her a bunch of like bath toys and whatever.

And I like filled up the bathroom.

And then I, it made me think that like, oh, this is also the guest bathroom.

And my best friend Shambles is like, there's nothing.

more overstimulating than taking a shower at your friend's house who has a baby.

And it's like the step stool, all all the things in the shower, like all the toothpaste and all the baby.

Like, she's just like, it's so overstimulated.

Like, you cannot relax.

And then when they move into the toddler stage and there's like locks on the toilet, and you're like, how the fuck do I open this?

There's locks on everything.

You're like, I'm just trying to get the extra toilet paper in here.

Literally.

Heaven forbid it's an emergency.

No, exactly.

I've had that happen.

It's terrifying.

My sister's also pregnant, by the way, and she had her gender reveal this weekend.

Ooh, she's having.

It's a girl.

I know.

How did they do the gender reveal?

They did it in my parents' backyard and they did like poppers or something.

Yeah.

That is cute.

They FaceTimed me in.

Did you think it was a girl or did you think it was a boy?

Well, she wanted, I mean, they were happy with whatever, but she was like, I want a boy.

And so I was like, you're going to get a girl.

What are unacceptable gender reveals?

Fire.

Yeah.

Anything with explosives.

Like, we did the whole balloon popping.

Seemed good.

I was happy with it.

Yeah.

I think the fireworks, you know, anything with live animals.

Anything that can cause the city of Los Angeles to have a cataclysmic event.

Right.

Probably not good.

Dyeing a living thing a color.

Right.

I think the biting into the cupcake one is tough because then your like mouth is full of cupcake and you can't really celebrate.

You're like,

also, I'm off sugar, so not possible.

Nick wanted us to forever.

And Nick was like, what if we like had someone like deliver flowers in like all blue or all pink?

That's cute.

Flowers.

And I was like, okay.

It'd be cute.

Yeah.

But then we'd have to like open up the front door together.

You know, that's cute, actually.

Can you imagine with a videographer?

Really insane reaction to the person delivery person.

They're like, okay, sorry.

Right.

Oh my God.

They're like, what?

Right.

Right.

Oh, Leo wants me to say that she did the cupcakes.

Okay.

Did y'all see the one with the wig where they, where the mom was in on it, and they popped the balloon and nothing came out.

And then the mom had on like a wig she pulled it off and then she had on like the color and it was it was ecstatic like it was very lit it was super cute and also like out of way to make that about you literally let's talk about me that's what it exactly what it was somehow that all became about the mom about the mom is there a world where we'll ever not do a gender reveal and just wait for the actual

i don't think so because like I mean, people, you know, I don't know, people are always like, there's not a lot of surprises left in life.

And it's like, it's going to be a surprise either way.

Like, it's a surprise if you pop a balloon.

It's a surprise if you, if the doctor's like, it's a girl.

You know, it's like, it's always going to be a surprise.

So you're just like prolonging the surprise, I guess.

I enjoyed finding out because especially as a father, it's very, it's just harder to connect with your baby.

Well, it's easy to start like picturing your life.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's a lot more fun.

My brother waited for his second child.

And it was actually really cool because we had no idea.

It also saved everybody a ton of money.

You know what I mean?

Leading up to it.

Cause you're just buying like necessities.

Right.

Necessities, neutrals.

And so you're like, okay, we'll wait.

And then it was really exciting when how did it save them money?

I feel like people weren't buying like girl clothes or boy clothes or something?

It saved me money, I guess I should say.

Like you get so excited when you find out the gender and you're like, oh my gosh, I'm going to buy a mermaid costume.

Yeah.

Yeah, my thing, I was like.

Obviously, as I said before, I don't know what babies need.

So I wanted to get something like from the heart, you know?

So I got this like little like music box

and it plays Swan Link because I was a little wine drunk when I was ordering it.

And then I heard the melody and I started crying.

I was like, she's going to, cause she might be a Scorpio.

So I was like, she's going to need a melancholy melody that's very feminine in her life.

And then like all the like my like cousins, kids and stuff that were there were like obsessed when they heard it.

And I was like, I ate.

Wow.

Wow.

That's a good idea.

Yeah.

But then she was like, I would have loved burp cloths.

But then someone else got them for her.

Well, I'm not currently in the business of obsession with babies, but what I am obsessed with right now is the drama going on in the Bravo sphere between Tamra and Sheena Shea, and then Sheena Shea and Lala Ken.

And so if you're not familiar, Tamara went on Watch What Happens Live and during a game was asked a question along the lines of who are you looking least forward to running into at BravoCon?

Without hesitation, Tamra answered Sheena Shay based off the podcast episode Tamara wasn't present for, where Katie, Janella, and Teddy discussed that Sheena is actually the one who was responsible for telling Kiki Monique about the outcome of Naked Wasted and Gretchen going to the hospital.

Sheena recently did a podcast where she was asked about it and claimed that Tamra is behind stirring the pot and that Gretchen never lies, which I think is hysterical because we literally just watched Gretchen lie straight to Tamra's face.

And also during the episode Watch What Happens Live, Tamra also let it be known that at ABC Upfront, Sheena and Brock told her that it was Sheena's dream to be an Orange County housewife, to which Andy responded, I thought her dream was dancing with the stars.

Savage.

Yeah, so savage.

Which also leads me into less upfront drama between Sheena and Lala.

A week or two ago, Lala did an Amazon live where she was asked about Sheena and she responded, Sheena is just Sheena-ing, which people watching thought it sounded like shade.

Come to find out, Lala has been on every big cast trip in the Valley, and Sheena hasn't filmed at all for the Valley.

So this is confirmed or is this a rumor?

This, uh, it's confirmed that Sheena has not filmed for the Valley and that Lala has been on cast trips.

Yeah, did they just go on a cast trip?

They just went to a cast trip to San Diego and Zach posted a photo.

The only two people who are not like confirmed cast members are Lala and Tom Schwartz.

And they were both in the photo.

No Sheena, no Brock.

Beautiful.

Love some Tom Schwartz.

Right?

So then the rumor has it that Bravo was upset with how Sheena handled the press for her book.

I don't know if it also has to do with

how they kept the secret of the affair during the last season of Vanderpump Rules, but people are thinking that this is a repercussion.

Why would they be upset with it?

Just because like Sheena kept it for herself?

Didn't she kind of shade Bravo?

She was, yeah, she was throwing a lot of shade about Bravo and production and all of these things throughout her press interviews.

So it's like Bravo was catching strays left and right because Sheena was on her high horse at that moment, obviously.

But it sounds like she's buying for an orange holding spot.

And one thing I will give her, I said, regardless, no one can take away from her that she is a New York best-selling author.

So true.

So

true.

No.

I'm a USA Today best-selling author.

Get it.

You have to sell 10,000 copies, I believe,

nationwide to become a best-selling author.

It's about your pre-orders or something like that.

Well, also, Nick, it's like USA, New York.

You know, USA today is a whole nation.

Yeah.

New York wants a whole USA.

But yeah, Tamara's not looking forward to seeing Sheena.

And then Adriana was also on that episode, and she's also not looking forward to seeing Sheena because Sheena caused drama between her and Captain Cutie, which is Captain Jason from Below Deck.

Apparently, Adriana and

Captain Jason were dating for a minute there, and that Sheena got involved texting him and that they stopped speaking.

I love that Below Deck is always at the scene of the crime.

So, BravoCon is coming up, and like, I couldn't be more excited that we're actually going to have boots on the ground to tell us what is going on because the drama is going to be pelping.

I believe I'm making my first BravoCon appearance.

Vic Nile will be there, everybody.

I'm so proud.

I can't reveal with who yet, but

I'm working with a company and I will be taking photos with fans.

One of my favorite things to do.

If you know me, you know it's a real dream to engage with the people.

Yeah.

You are a man of the people.

What a thrill.

I'm excited about BravoCon.

Yeah.

I wonder if you'll hear or see any of these like rumblings.

I'm wondering

what Bravo celebs will want to hang out with me.

They'd be smart too.

You know what I I mean?

Like, if you're chatting about their shows, it's like.

You know what I found out over the weekend?

Shep Rose is exactly one day older than me.

Oh.

So we're both with Brothers.

45th birthday, Shep Rose.

That's his 40th birthday show.

Wait, Natalie, are you going?

Nope.

Well, we got to

put an electric fence around him in case Adriana sees him in person.

That's so real.

Like, remember she said for one night.

Right.

He did get a hall pass, right?

You did give him a one-day hall pass.

For Adriana?

Yeah.

Yeah, sure.

If you want it.

I love that.

Nick Damora.

Do you want to listen to the dog song again?

Because

I love my dog.

I love to cuddle with my dog.

I love my toothbrush.

It's giving Phoebe from friends.

It is.

Do you think Bad Bunny will perform that at the Super Bowl halftime show?

Bad Bunny is your musical guest for the halftime show of this year's Super Bowl.

I love how everyone's like, it's going to be Taylor.

It's going to be Taylor.

Yeah.

I was told it was Adele.

Yeah, I heard Adele pass.

Adele pass?

I heard that.

She like passed.

I think she's passed several times.

Adele passed?

It doesn't feel like, I love Adele, but I don't know that it feels like the vibe, you know?

Yeah, I feel like Bat Bunny throws a party.

You know, Adele, you sit your ass down and listen.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I would fuck with Adele.

You would?

Yeah.

It's not really, yeah, it's not really like the hype vibe of Super Bowl.

When J-Lo did the Super Bowl halftime show, like, I didn't even realize how big of a fan I was of hers until like every song and I was like up dancing the entire time.

So I think I agree with you, like where I'm like, I would be singing, maybe sobbing if Adele was performing.

But like you do want to like dance and be like, all right, finally, I can get a break from this football.

Well, hopefully the Super Bowl won't end in a tie like the Packer Cowboys game ended.

on my birthday.

But at least they didn't lose.

I don't know.

Maybe that would have been better.

A tie was really just fucking lame.

Which I didn't even know you could tie in.

Like I thought like when you go into overtime, you go, you do like second overtime, third third overtime, not just the SEC.

I know some of you aren't going to care about this little rant, but, like, the NFL has continued to change their overtime rules a little bit for the better.

But then it used to be just another quarter, which is 15 minutes.

For some reason, now it's 10.

It doesn't make any fucking sense.

It was annoying.

I don't know.

I don't know what, like,

you know,

imagine a housewife fight that just ended in a tie.

Like, both sides forgive.

But, like, do we have to guess which team's going to win?

Because we just know the Chiefs are going to win because Taylor Swift's husband doesn't lose.

Well, they lost.

Well, the Chiefs famously lost last year.

Yeah, kind of washed, if you ask me.

It shows I didn't watch.

Yeah, the Steelers also were in Ireland and won.

And I actually watched a Steelers game because I was home and had to, but I enjoyed it.

Yeah, you were.

I feel like I need to freshen up on my Bad Bunny songs, you know.

Do you think he'll ask you to be part of the musical act since you were in a Bad Bunny video?

I was going to say, don't you know one?

That's so true.

Yes, I am going to be a backup dancer.

That's my wife.

Yes, if you do not know, I am in the music video for Ojitos Lindos.

Yeah, that's me in there.

Mex.

I'm in the mix.

I'm on a couple dates with Bad Bunny.

Wait, really?

Yep, that's me in there.

We did a drive-in movie the other day.

Okay, in the video.

Okay.

Yep.

He was, I couldn't get Natalie, so I guess I'll go for Kendall Jones.

Speaking of Bad Bunny and Sheena Shea, what did she say about Sheena?

What did Sheena say about Bad Bunny at the SNL thing that he like thought she was a Kardashian or something?

Oh, that she kept saying that like he was making making eye contact with her and like eye fucking her from across the room.

And she's like, I must have like reminded him of his ex.

It was a, it was a very delusional.

So,

I gotta say, you know, just for everyone out there, just because someone's looking at you doesn't mean they're checking you out.

Yeah, I'm always observing people constantly.

I am judging them.

I also need that reminder, though, because I'm always like, oh my God.

Literally, I fucking me.

She probably said he was.

That bitch has kale in her tooth.

She said that he was eyeing her while she was was out dancing, and her direct quote was, Bad Bunny was giving your girl the up and down.

Every time I turned around, his eyes were on me.

Your girl.

Win.

He would not stop staring.

Is that the outcome?

So, like, the Cowboys are America's team, and Sheena Shea is your girl.

Your girl.

Eye and your girl up and down.

Up and down.

All right, should we get into some Miami?

I didn't know Juliana did opera.

Neither did I.

Did you guys?

Did we know that?

Was that a fun fact?

Yeah, she did it last season.

She did a performance for Martina.

I don't know what Mary's rapid recap is going to say but before we jump into it and and natalie clock this but what what a wild choice for julia to put uh her new adopted twins in a balenciaga t-shirt for those of you who uh don't remember not too long ago balenciaga was caught up in a very salacious scandal when they had young children in like s m bondage type of like photo shoots photo shoots so like just kind of like

celebrities are trying to make them like it again.

And I just, I don't really know how you come back from that.

So, I haven't forgiven them, but apparently, Julia has.

If you missed this past episode of the Real Housewives of Miami, here is your rapid recap.

The finale is finally here.

Alexia, actually, we wasn't wrong.

She wasn't wrong.

It felt like there was more to the story.

Marisol brings Christmas to hot weather of Miami.

Meanwhile, Alexia is simultaneously throwing a beauty bar happy hour.

Which one are you going to?

Jill Zarin is in the crowded.

Marisol is wearing a hat.

Question mark.

Wait, is it a loofah?

No, it's a tree.

Adriana calls Julia a covert enemy.

Alexia's son is questioning Todd's love for Alexia.

Julia throws an event between the Florida Grand Opera and her children's foster care program.

In case you were wondering, Santa is still fat in Miami.

Larsa doesn't want to be a Scrooge and is peaceful around Jodi.

Adriana is late to her own concert and Stephanie is not having the J-Lo moment.

The only difference is the Miami J-Lo plays the piano and loves her dog.

Julia is happy for Adriana, but Adriana calls her weird.

The mask is off.

Adriana storms off and calls Julia off off for her nine engagements.

And to dig further, Adriana calls Julia a user and cites her old apartment.

Julia claims she was being controlled behind closed doors.

She's done.

To wrap it all up, Kiki releases a drink for the Haitian Health Foundation.

Marisol claims she told Adriana to act like she said wretched.

tea.

Adriana calls Marisol old and wretched.

Dare we say going to a funeral.

Marisol says Adriana is going to an ice skating ring.

No, finding out that Marisol was the one who told Adriana to say wretched and not ratchet and blame it on her accent?

Was crazy.

Crazy.

Right.

But then in the confessional, she made it seem like she was like, oh, go with this.

But then it seems like there's a dispute now.

I'm like, are we going to see something at the reunion?

Like, I need to see this.

I need to see the clip.

Does anyone else just not give a fuck like me?

It just feels like they're really trying to milk this storyline.

Well, I think Adriana is maybe trying to milk it because then she's like, oh, you called me racist.

Kiki, talk to my friend.

That was wild.

Hard.

Hey, Carol.

That was crazy.

They're gonna call on a backlash here's my black friend yeah like fight my racist battle for me it was like this is weird kiki's like no one ever even said that by the way right and it's like well now i think you might be right yeah after you pulled that stunt yeah i don't know it the thing is like i love some adriana demora but it was really it was kind of getting hard to defend her at the end of this and i really need to know like who's lying because I also love Marisol, but I'm like, who's telling the truth in this?

I can't tell.

I don't think there's a a lie.

I think Marisol did help Adriana where she thought that they were on

or whatever.

And then the second that like shit started to hit the fan, Marisol couldn't wait to pull it out of her arms.

I was making offensive Adriana.

I don't think she had any clue what either of those words meant.

And I certainly don't think that she realized what maybe like the stereotypes or implications.

might mean behind one of those words.

She clearly does now because she was quickly like, and Marisol, you're old and miserable and you're wretched.

The turnaround and Alexia, of all people, being like, stop, don't do this to yourself, Adriana.

And Alexia doesn't like her just as much as Marisol.

Anyone else find it weird that Adriana wanted complete silence before she walked out on stage?

Like, didn't she, doesn't she want a hype train?

I didn't quite understand this.

Yeah.

I think she was trying to have her diva moment of like, I'm trying to get into the zone and like meditate like she's Mariah Carey.

And it's like, girl, get on stage with that.

Yeah, you look like you addressed for a skating rink, it was wild.

Yeah, that was awesome.

You know, it's funny because I was like, you know what?

I see it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Nancy Kerrigan, the house down boots.

But also, Bravo did her zero favors with the audio of her skating.

Yeah, they didn't like pull like a direct link.

It was basically like someone with their iPhone filming the concert in the back room.

So it's hard to really even tell if she sounded good or not because Bravo really did her dirty.

And I will say that going back to what you said, Nick, about how it's not the biggest of deals, I'm like, I feel like we just kind of glossed over like Julia throwing water on somebody who's literally healing from cancer.

And it's just like, but Adriana mispronouncing a word or whether her intention, whatever it was, I'm like, that's the biggest deal that you guys saw that was wrong with this season.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Because it's like the valley.

It's like, get again, or like Jason and everyone focusing on Danny versus Jax, where I'm just like, wait, I feel like there's bigger issues here than Adriana's accent.

Yeah.

and then also, not for nothing, Adriana did sound better live than Julia.

Just gonna say, do you think so?

Actually, I kind of disagree.

Disagree too.

I feel like Julia was set herself up for failure by it was her with a professional opera singer.

So I, you could hear every single little like.

How long has Julia been an opera singer for a long time?

No, a year.

She got into it a year ago.

Yeah, like practicing.

Well, first of all, before I talk my shit, she was actually pretty good.

But I, I, babe, please please do not, if you're going to find a hobby, you don't want to be awesome,

like, don't have it be something so, I don't know, elegant, like, it's like

where you have to perform in public and

be taken seriously in a way.

Like, our dear friend, Charlene Joint, is an opera singer.

She's been doing it her whole life.

She's quite stunning and lovely at it.

And I just feel like there's certain things you don't just like decide pick up, you know, and then demand people to listen to you.

And again, it's not like knitting bubble blankets, right?

Like, yeah, it's not like crochet, you know, or, you know, painting.

It's a weird, it's a weird hobby to jump into.

It is, but she was, I mean, she was pretty good.

I mean, I don't know.

I'm just anti-Julia, to be honest.

So, all I know is that I want to not leave this earth, not going to one of Marisol's parties or events.

I did.

It looked so fun.

So real.

So lush.

They're like, Coco, change into your pajamas.

Yeah.

And what were those pajamas?

Nice.

Neat.

Yeah.

What brand?

We need, we need.

Can we get a PR package?

Because

not Lisa trying to like convince her eight-year-old son to get a manicure.

He's like, no.

She's like, yes.

Why would we give this kid get his name?

He's so his father's son.

Like he was just like so uninterested with her and was just like, yeah, no.

And I was like, it's giving money.

Yeah.

Do you think she wanted to do it to like spend quality time with the boy?

Well, he was already with her at the nail salon.

So it's like they were already together and it was like she just wanted to give him something to do, I'm sure, than just like sitting there i'm sure he had an ipad also what a bummer though for like alexia to be throwing that event at this the same day yeah although i would have said yes to it i i what i demanded that uh i got my nails painted when my mom wouldn't paint my scissors nails oh really do you do you still get a manicure now and then no i should as a

cuticles i've had a pedicure a couple pedicures uh my toenails needed a clipping over the weekend and so i used my fingers what do you mean just kind of ripped it off what do you mean

You want to know it's grosser than that?

If you say you put it in his mouth, I'm going to walk out.

Sierra, Nick, if you have some money.

Not my toenails.

Not my toenails.

I will use a fingernail as a toothpick for sure.

100%.

Isn't that insane, guys?

I don't use, I mean, I do bite my nails,

but I don't use them as toothpicks.

You wouldn't then take that nail and stick it in between your teeth and like get out a piece of steak.

You would never know I bite my nails.

My nails look he does do them very evenly.

Sierra, are you okay?

I am unwell.

I am unwell and I am not okay.

I'm crying and gagging.

So wait, are you just gonna like let that piece of food sit in there if you don't have a toothpaste?

Does your hair floss?

Do your hair.

What is going on if I biophone that much?

I've definitely used my hair before.

Thank you.

That is crazier than a fingernail.

No, it is not.

Postmates on your phone.

I know that you have access to floss somehow, some way.

No, listen, I floss my teeth every single night, but this is like in an emergency in the car or out somewhere.

No, no, no, you don't floss your teeth

at all.

Well, I don't floss.

I'm speaking for myself currently.

Apologies to all the dentists.

I was going to say your gum health is important.

Yeah.

Although

my dentist, by the way, Dr.

King, shout out to Dr.

King from Auburn, Alabama.

I did get a text message from him.

Saying you're due.

No, wishing me a happy birthday.

Oh, that's cool.

He said, happy birthday.

your teeth my dentist randomly is in auburn alabama do you go out there to see your dentist i listen i you know i'm i'm i feel like i take pretty good care of myself uh i look good for my age as mary has pointed out um

shout out mary

but yeah i'm um i'm not awesome at going to the dentist and i hadn't gone in maybe

be honest a decade uh

and then we were i was visiting auburn alabama a couple years ago for and you know not much to do for me out there and i was like well this would be a good time to go to a dentist went to my childhood dentist i actually loved that he got me right in and then we went out the next year so i was like i'll go back to dr king so anytime in i'm in auburn alabama i hit up uh uh dr king yeah wow there's so many shout outs in this episode yeah a lot of shout outs in this episode for sure we just have so much love for so many things in people you know people who do good work we appreciate them.

It's a really strong community you have.

Shout out, Ben, for helping us build this studio.

Okay, what's going on in OC?

What's going on in Orange County if you missed this?

Gretchen's a liar.

Gretchen has a horrible fashion.

This episode of OC was the worst fashion I've ever seen.

First of all, Gretchen's ITM look has always been bad, but the Laura Croft was exceptionally bad.

My favorite was Heather Dubrow walking in saying, G.I.

Jane.

She goes, no, I'm Laura Croft.

It really is.

We have Laura Croft at home.

It was.

Guys,

it was the studded belt.

I did this same look for Halloween four years ago.

It's like you find a jumpsuit, you get the little studded belt, and you put some like,

you know, things

hooked on it and do a brand.

She should do an ad for that bra, though.

Yeah, the body was tea, y'all.

The body was tea.

I couldn't look away.

I fell for it.

Sadly, her personality is like.

Well, if you have no idea what we're talking about and you missed the last episode of The Royal House Fives of Orange County, here is your rapid recap.

First, we start off with a flashback rewind moment.

And in the name of Tamra Judge, what do you know about me, bitch?

Jen is overthinking about her September wedding, but Ryan wants her to stop waffling, aka beach wedding.

Gretchen and Slade discuss Tamra's singing voice, or do I say drowning rat.

Slade apologizes for bringing up Tamra allegedly cheating.

Gretchen was just trying to be campy and funny.

Jen's daughter wants a boyfriend in high school.

Um, who didn't?

Then we get a self-defense class.

Gretchen shows up as Amazon Laura Croft and okay, body.

Meanwhile, the rest of the group are pranked by carjacking.

Emily blows the whistle and tells Tamra about Slade's accusations, and boom, Tamara appears stunned and would love to hear the recording.

Gretchen shoots a fireball, and Tamra has had it.

Of course, Slade said something stupid, and suddenly, Heather and Emily catch the stray.

Gretchen alleges she kept her mouth shut, and apparently, it'll get ugly for her.

So, the real question is, who's trying to run whose life here?

Also, I'm sorry, whose vibrator was up?

Whose vagina?

Can I just,

I just have to say that I do think that there is an art to Bravo and like how they do these seasons because last season, obviously, couldn't stand Tamra.

And then the beginning of this season with Katie, I'm still Team Katie no matter what.

But bringing Gretchen and Slade back in somehow humanizes Tamra to the point to where I'm like, fuck Gretchen and Slade, Team Tamra.

This is dirty.

This is gross.

And like, Slade, you're the stand-up where he body shamed tamara oh my god that was crazy are you theo vaughn doing his netflix special oh no he called uh vicky miss piggy and she had that nickname like stick with her for years as like a grown-ass woman and end up getting work done can you imagine being a middle-aged man getting into comedy and your whole bit is just body shaming women in your community literally could you imagine being a middle-aged man with a daughter and you're still doing this type of shit to ruin another grown-ass woman's life could you imagine being a middle-aged man and deciding now's the time for me to get into comedy

Can you imagine being a middle-aged man?

Actually, yeah.

Nick's like, I've had the thought.

Yeah.

I was riding the thought.

Yeah, but you're not like going and doing stand-up and shaming women's bodies.

You know what I mean?

The material might look different.

Yeah.

Also watching him do that scene with Gretchen, it just is such a stark difference than watching Eddie or I'm not going to say Ryan because Ryan is kind of a performer too, but who else?

Shane.

Yeah, it's just like

Matt, Katie's husband.

It's like the difference with how Slade like turns it on for the camera is so gross.

Also, you know, she's lying because, like, you know, when if you, when you have accusations and then you, and you're vague about it, it's like the whole like, everyone says this about you.

Well, what do they say?

Well, I'm just not going to say, you know, like, you know, it's just

saying things and whatever.

They weren't good.

They weren't good.

So you should be worried.

Such a manipulative, gross thing.

And like, yeah, and that, and you know, because like Tamara's like, well, then fucking just say it, you know, because there's nothing there.

And it's so fucked.

I really hate it when people do that.

It's, it's bully behavior.

I mean, and also Gretchen being like, I've been told so many things about you and I've kept my mouth shut for all these years.

Do you want me to start saying them?

It's like, yeah.

And then the producer's like, what did she say?

I'm not going to say

next question.

Like, you would protect Tamra.

Like, nothing about Gretchen

shows me that she would want to protect Tamra.

There's no incentive.

I'm watching throughout, like, I'm watching all the old seasons of Orange County.

I'm in like season 11 now.

And I'm like, this is pretty standard between Slade and Gretchen.

That whole like sit-down where she's just like, oh, God, you really pissed me off when you said that.

They've had this conversation so many times.

That's Gretchen's way of taking zero accountability for what her husband said and claiming that, like, oh, I had no idea he was going to her life partner.

I was like, I had no idea what he was going to say.

And she says it at the table.

If Slade said something stupid, then like that's on him.

And it's like, no, you're a partnership.

You knew what he was going to say, but you rehearsed your way of being like, oh, my hands are clean.

I wasn't the one who said it.

Slade and Gretchen kind of remind me of, you know, in the Emperor's New Groove.

Gizma.

And then what's the Gronk?

Gronk.

Yeah.

He's her Gronk.

And it's like,

she's behind it.

She's like, pull the lever, Gronk.

Pull the lever, Gronk.

Yeah.

But Slade's just equally as evil.

Like, I feel like they both try to act like they're like, oh, she ruined our lives.

It's been 15 years.

If you can't move on

from some shit 15 years ago, like, why are we here?

Also, like, carjacking prank, not a good prank.

No, it was stupid.

Risky.

If I had been in that car, he would have been done for.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's like, what, like, I feel like someone,

I don't know, is now going to like.

I'm actually shocked.

None of these people had like pepper spray or like literally like not one ounce of.

Why were your windows down?

They all have their hair down.

Yeah, all their windows down.

It's like, first of all, what are you doing?

Roll your window up.

It is crazy.

They're not like, oh, he's digging in the trash.

Meanwhile, their window is still down.

There's a couple people who travel a lot and drive in different parts of our country.

Road rage really hits different depending on where you are.

Yes, absolutely.

You know, if you accidentally cut someone off in, let's say, Wisconsin, it's

just a

like a little

like, please don't do that.

Excuse me, sorry, sorry.

In LA, it's like they might get shot.

Now you haven't threatened once.

It was so scary, y'all.

We were leaving the studio, going home, and this like old suburban, like, it's going from two lanes into one after a red light.

Okay.

So here I am in the right lane that I'm supposed to be in, and this car is.

Andre, I'm riding a shotgun like a man.

And this car comes flying through the yellow light, probably was red by then and like gets in front of me, whatever.

Like, so I'm like, that was so dangerous.

He's going so fast.

So I'm kind of just like

looking at him.

I, the one thing about me is I am such an observer.

And if I am at the park and there's something that goes wrong and the officer is like, did you see the, I'm like, yeah, this is their license plate.

Like, I am that much of an observer.

So I'm like looking at his license plate.

I'm looking at like what I can remember about this person if I were to need to give his description.

Wow.

And we get to the next red light.

And I guess he was looking at me from his side mirror.

So we were like kind of making eye contact and he was a scary individual.

Okay.

We get to the next red light and he pulls to the side, which again is not the road and he stops.

So I have to pull up beside him and his window's down.

And he literally gives me like the finger handgun and says, watch yourself.

And I was like, oh my God.

Yes.

And he basically like, he said, he basically said something, I'm going to let you live today.

And I honestly believed him.

It was like, this person's killed someone before.

100%.

That's so crazy.

But that's a life for me.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Oh, can I tell you guys my favorite road rage story from growing up in Florida?

Yeah, Florida.

Right.

So, okay.

So as we've discussed before, my dad's a pastor.

Praise Jesus.

Praise Jesus.

One time we were driving home from church, me and my dad in the car.

And we were in Sarasota at the time.

There's this really big bridge called Ringling Bridge.

And we're driving across the bridge.

And my dad accidentally cuts off this motorcycle that he didn't see.

And the guy on the motorcycle like swerved and came back up and like got up.

My dad had his window down and like got really like up in my dad's face and like started screaming at him.

But then my dad was still wearing his collar

and his like pastor collar.

And then the guy like clocked the collar and then was like,

repent.

He thought he was talking to God.

He thought he was yelling at God and he was like, oh fuck.

And then just kind of like eased back.

Eased back.

And I was like, wait, should I go to seminary?

Were you like, my dad?

That's so cool.

I was like, that's kind of really cool.

Yeah.

Anyway, yeah, that's one of the perks of being a pastor.

If you wear your collar, you can get away with a lot of shit.

Speaking of Jesus.

And speaking of cool.

We have Lacey Chabert is up next to talk about some of her projects.

She's got the Haul Out the Halloween premiering Saturday, October 11th on Hallmark.

Also, the celebration with Lacey Shaber Season 2, now streaming on Hallmark Plus.

And she also has another Christmas movie coming out called She's Making a List, which premieres December 6th.

She is with us next to talk about all that, plus her time as Gretchen Wiener's as one of the mean girls.

And just like, you know, we all love a Hallmark movie, and she is the queen of Hallmark movies.

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Lacey, welcome to the show.

Thanks so much for having me.

This is fun.

We're so excited.

So excited.

I mean,

do people generally just get really excited anytime they meet you?

You know, just being the icon that you are?

People are very, I love meeting people.

People are always actually like super friendly.

And whether they're, you know, saying they enjoy the movies on Hallmark Channel or that's so fetch, like someone, there's always

icon.

It's, it's, I love meeting people.

You hope people are going to like the work that you're a part of.

And so it means the world to meet, to meet someone who does.

How many times do you think have you said that's so fetched since filming Mean Girls?

If I could tell you the amount of times I've said it in making videos for people's daughters and nieces and granddaughters,

it's a lot.

It's a lot.

Or they'll be like, Can you write that so fetch?

I'm like, absolutely.

Of course.

I loved, I mean, I loved Mean Girls.

It was such an incredibly fun movie to be a part of.

I can't believe it was 20 years ago.

And it was just such a

lovely thing to do.

I saw that in theaters.

Did you really?

Multiple times.

You have a daughter, right?

I do.

My little julia just turned nine years old

and she's just the love of my life and yeah she's in third grade and she you know children are so humbling and she keeps it so real when i want a real opinion she will absolutely tell you and it's just so fun to watch her grow and to see the world through her eyes it's best is she a fan of your work yeah she's also my a real critic

How does she, what's her recent reveal?

I mean, she'll be like, don't wear your hair like that again.

Like she'll, yeah.

She's like, I, I don't like that.

Or I love it.

You wore colors.

Like, you always wear black in real life, mom.

Like, oh, you in your black leggings.

And you're, I'm like, it's my uniform.

She's like, you're always in sweatpants at home.

Exactly.

Relax.

She's like, you're always.

She literally says that you're always wearing sweatpants and leggings.

Our daughter's 19 months and she's

on the verge of talking.

She does the, she's at the age where she's like talking to herself and like being like, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, and then she's learning like

a new word every day.

It's, it's been pretty fun.

It's just magic.

She's giving sass and talking back.

I feel like she will be giving us notes as well.

It's the best.

If I can offer one piece of unsolicited advice, please write stuff down, especially the cute stuff that she says.

That's like, because you don't, you think I'll never forget this, but then something else happens and you do.

And my husband and I are always reminiscing.

Like, remember when she used to say that word wrong?

Or remember when she used to do that?

I mean, I remember when she was really little, probably about that age.

And she would like go with her hands up and look up at me and go, hold you.

And she meant, hold me.

Hold you.

And I was like, yes, please don't ever say it right.

I know.

I've been trying to get, I know, I've been trying to get River to say that.

Now, I started with just being like, do you want up?

And so she would say, up, please, up, please.

And now I'm like, do you want me to hold you?

Cause I want her to do the hold you too.

It's so sweet.

But I did.

Like, I, I, the first

year of her life, I did like a full baby book and took all these Polaroids and wrote everything down.

And then I feel like after the year, you just like have a toddler and you're like, oh my God, I have no time to scrapbook and like write.

So, but it's so true.

I don't want to forget the cute stuff.

So I do need to be better at it.

It's the best.

And you know what's so cool too?

Like my daughter has, because of our phones, she has a picture or a video from almost every single day of her life.

And it's such a.

different way I think that kids are growing up these days where like I have like seven photos from my childhood and they've all been in Hallmark movies

They're always asking for family photos.

I have so few photos and almost no videos and so I love that she has this whole documentation of her life and it's like such a cool thing I think for her to look back at and she'll sometimes come to me and be like, can we look at the baby?

Can we see me as a baby?

And it's really fun to like, obviously for me to get to relive that, but then to see her look at herself like that, it's kind of sweet.

That's so sweet.

I bet it also brings that memories for you because she's probably like, what were we doing here?

And why were we, you know, like asking questions?

Yes.

And that, that's been one of my favorite parts, honestly, of being a mom.

It's I've gotten to relive some of my best childhood memories and some of my favorite moments with her in the traditions that we carry on.

And like, you know, I remember being making this certain recipe every Christmas with my great-grandma and my grandmother.

And now I get to do that with her.

And just the full circle part of that, like, just brings me such joy.

And I mean, it all ties into why I enjoyed making these movies so much, truly.

Yeah.

The reason why we're not with you in person is we're up at the lake house, which we just got done

remaking.

And it was the same property my grandfather built.

And so now that River's here, it's like,

it was like a core memory for me in my childhood.

So now that River's here, I get to see, like, she's loving it up here.

And so, yeah, just like you said, just to relive it back is a...

Something I'm really looking forward to with River.

That is so special.

Oh, I wish you guys all the best.

It's awesome.

Well, speaking of special, and you obviously have made such an amazing career doing, you mentioned Hallmark movies, all these like family-friendly movies.

You have three projects that coming up over the next few months.

You're booked and busy.

Like, do you have favorites?

Like, I mean, even like, obviously, you've done over 40 Hallmark movies, I think, something like that.

Do you have favorites that you've done?

And then of the projects you're doing right now, tell us a little bit about each one.

It's like impossible to pick a favorite because they really are special for different reasons.

I know that sounds so cliche, but it's not just the movie that's special to me.

It's like the experience of it.

I remember what I was going through in my life when that one filmed or the crew or, you know, I met like someone who became a best friend.

Like it's really the life stuff that happens behind the scenes that means so much.

But I'm so excited about what I have going on right now.

Season one and two of Celebrations.

is streaming on Hallmark Plus, and it's a show that is so close to my heart.

And like, it was, it was a passion project with everyone involved involved where we celebrate heroes who are just incredible people doing amazing things in their community, people who are making a real difference in the lives of so many people.

And to be able to give them this, we take three days to plan a surprise party with LA party stylists, Lisa and Marissa, incredible planners.

And it's not just about the party, though.

It's about celebrating their work and, you know, hearing firsthand accounts.

from people that they really have affected their lives.

And I think now more than ever, we just need to highlight all of the good.

And that is just a show I'm so proud of.

So if you want to just feel good and you also love a little DIY and party and celebration, that will be the show for you.

And then October 11th on Hallmark channel, I have Haul Out the Halloween premiering, which is the third installment in the haulout series about these neighbors who are crazy about Christmas.

But now they've turned the tables and it's all about Halloween.

And my dearest friend in real life, Kimberly J.

Brown and her husband,

Halloween town.

Halloween Town.

They join us for this one.

So it was so much fun to reunite with that cast and, of course, with my best friend.

And, and it's also just, it's, it's so fun to, to celebrate.

I mean, all of the Hallmark movies I do,

it's all about community and bringing people together.

And I think that they do that in people's living rooms when people watch.

And so I'm thankful for the chance.

When do you typically film these movies?

Like, I know it's coming out in October.

So did you get to like film this back in like February and have Halloween and like the beginning of the year?

Yes.

It is year-round holiday celebration for me.

That's why you're so lucky.

Yeah, we actually filmed this one in Salt Lake City in May.

Wow.

So it was really fun.

But typically we're filming the Christmas ones in the summer, which is great because I get two Christmases every year, pretty much, but also.

100 degrees and you're wearing a coat and a scarf and a parka.

And like, I think I've trained my face to actually not sweat anymore.

Yeah.

Teach me.

Literally.

How How did you even fall into being like the Hallmark queen that you are?

I mean, obviously you had, you know, your iconic movies with mean girls, but like, is this something that you aspired to?

Did it organically happen?

Like, you know, like you've really made this amazing career from it.

My gosh, thank you so much.

I don't know how this all happened,

truthfully.

I mean, this business, I've been doing this for 35 years and you never know what tomorrow holds.

And I, I, Hallmark offered me a movie called Elevator Girl, and it was like 15 years ago now, I think.

And I filmed it and it was a blast and it was a fun movie and I never knew if they'd call again.

And here we are.

I just finished my 44th movie actually for them a couple of days ago.

And I'm so deeply grateful

for the opportunity to tell stories that I think people can see themselves in.

You know, it's always a goal of mine to tell a story and portray a character that's like, oh, I've been there.

I relate to that.

And then at the end of the day,

you know, it's, you're going to be left with an uplifting ending.

Feel good, you know, feel good.

And just,

I love, I love being a representative for Hallmark because it's, it's, it's what highlights the good in the world, all the way back to the card company.

You know, it's, it's about celebrating milestones and being a part of people's celebrations.

And

so I just, I love it.

And I do love Christmas.

Like, I'm, I know it's controversial, but I'm going to put up my Christmas tree soon.

I just, you know, I suppose.

Yeah, no, November 1st.

We're November 1st.

You're my people.

Yes.

Yeah.

So we don't, we do fall and Halloween the exact same time, and that's September 1st through October 31st.

And then November 1st is Christmas on.

I love that.

But do you go all out at home?

Do you have like several Christmas trees in your house?

I do.

I have to hide them from my husband because he's like enough with the Christmas decoration.

I may have ordered another one last week.

I'm hoping to intercept the box before he sees it.

I, yeah, I just love it.

The more, the better.

More is more.

You're also kind of the queen of Christmas.

So I think you're right.

There's an expectation.

Yeah, he can't stifle you.

Yeah.

I think, yeah.

I mean, he's like, do you?

But poor thing, he has to help me.

But I just love it.

I like a different theme for edit up tree.

I like, like, I do do, I let Julia do her room however she wants.

And then

I'm sorry to keep plugging things, but it just goes hand in hand with what you're saying.

I have a line coming out with Hallmark that'll be at the Hallmark Gold Crown stores.

And it's Christmas decorations.

It's a beautiful ornament set,

things you can use for your holiday celebration, a tray, a tea towel, and mugs.

card line and wrapping your baby.

I would absolutely buy your Christmas decorations.

Will you really?

Yes.

Oh my God.

It's like Jesus, Santa, and Lacey.

People who know

that.

No disrespect to God and Santa.

Yes.

So sweet.

Thank you.

I'm going to make sure to send you some.

I hope you enjoy it.

Please.

Please.

Yes.

Apparently we have several trees coming.

You can never have enough decorations.

So please.

Lacey, before we let you go, we have a fun game we want to play with you that Mary put together.

Mary, would you like to explain to Lacey how we play this game in the spirit of Hallmark holiday films?

I would love to.

So another thing we talk about on this show a lot is housewives.

And I wanted to play a game with you called Hallmark or Housewives, in which we are going to read you some very dramatic plot lines.

And you are going to have to guess and tell us whether you think they're from a hallmark storyline or a real housewife storyline i mean the two really do cross over it seems so here we go it does so the first one is a last-minute work trip turns into something more when unexpected travel delays force two people together hallmark yes it is do you know the movie

a christmas detour jingle bell bride

okay never sorry

okay

no no, no.

She got it.

She got it right.

A family event explodes after someone shows up where they don't belong.

I'm going to go with Housewives for that one.

It's Hallmark.

Really?

What movie was that?

A Very Merry Mix-Up.

Someone ends up at the Wrong Family's House.

Oh.

I'm going to have to watch that one.

That seemed like a trick question, Mary.

I was giving Housewives.

I don't know.

Maybe I wrote this game, so it would be a little hard.

A sudden health crisis binds strangers together in surprising ways.

I'm gonna go with, oh, that, I mean, it could be either, but I'm gonna go with Housewife.

Hallmark.

Really?

What movie was that?

A stranger's heart.

Oh, my goodness.

I gotta watch.

I gotta watch it.

Heart transplants.

Connection.

I thought I'd seen them all.

A high-profile relationship collapses just as a new one takes shape in plain sight.

Housewife?

Yeah.

Okay.

Uh-huh.

Yeah.

It was real.

I was at Beverly Hills, Camille's dinner party from hell.

Let's see.

An elegant dinner unravels when someone drops a bombshell about a partner.

I feel like you're trying to trick me again.

I don't know if I trust you.

I'm going to go with housewives.

It is housewives.

Okay.

Yeah.

Okay.

All right.

That would have been.

Yeah, that would have been crazy.

I'm not worried.

Friendships implode after allegations of dishonesty about a serious illness.

Oof, housewives?

Yes.

Okay.

Ooh, she's on a roll.

An important project hinges on securing rare flowers, but emotions complicate the mission.

Halmer.

Yes.

Jingle Bill Bread.

Yeah.

A luxury getaway devolves into chaos after a heated argument erupts.

Housewives?

Yes.

We're a housewives in New Jersey.

Okay.

During a group trip abroad, a shocking prediction about a relationship changes everything.

Halmer.

No, it's housewives.

Could be Hallmark.

What's kitchen?

You did good, though.

That was pretty good.

That was pretty good.

Thank you.

Thank you so much.

I feel like you know a lot about housewives.

Yeah,

I definitely have seen a few episodes.

Yeah.

Where she's like, those aren't very uplifting.

I'm going to say housewives.

You should give the positive spin.

Yeah.

Yeah.

He seemed like these could have been deeply evil people.

I don't think they belong.

It's not a serious illness.

I'm going to go with housewives.

But maybe the serious illness was that they were heartbroken.

Never mind.

I'm not sure.

It's just Something about Senta.

Well, Lacey, this has been so much fun.

Please come back soon.

I know this is only your second podcast, but hopefully you had a great time and it was super easy and super fun.

And again, just remind my audience all the projects you got coming up and where they can stream and watch them all.

You can stream celebrations season one and two on Hallmark Plus.

Haul Out the Halloween will be on Hallmark channel October 11th.

And then She's Making a List is the Christmas movie I did this year, and that will be on Hallmark channel December 6th.

And then my line with Hallmark Christmas galore decorations, celebratory items.

All of that will be available very soon in Hallmark Gold Crown stores.

Amazing.

Yeah.

Well, please send us some of those Christmas decorations.

Going to.

We'll definitely share and put them up over our trees.

I'm absolutely going to.

And thank you so much for having me and chatting.

It was super fun to talk to you guys.

So much fun for us.

Thanks so much, Lacey.

Of course.

Take care.

Bye.

Bye.

This was really fun.

Thank you so much.

Thank you so much.

Of course.

Do not forget that our Going Deeper tomorrow, it's a good one, people.

If you ever follow the Duggar family drama scandal, the craziness that went on with that, we have Amy Duggar King with us to talk about her new book that talks about all of the craziness that went on in that family.

That is tomorrow's Going Deeper.

You will not want to miss that.

And on Thursday's reality recap, we have Rachel Lindsay returning to the show to talk about all things bravo catch up with Rachel Lindsay.

It will be great to have her back and catch up with her.

That is all coming up this week.

Thanks for listening.

Talk to you later.

See you tomorrow.

Bye.

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